Allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America, and to
the republic for which it stands, one
nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
» Welcome.
>> Vice President Anderson?
>> Here.
>> President Gibson?
>> Here.
>> Member Brecko?
>> Here.
>> Member Swallow?
>> Here.
>> Member Speedo?
» Five territory public hearing.
Ordinance adoption.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, just
» Then we need to go through the
ordinance.
Do we go through the ordinance again,
please?
Go through it here.
Do we go through the ordinance again?
Yes, we go through it.
Do we go through it?
>> Yeah, I can I can go through it again.
Okay, the ordinance is here on page
I have it.
My name is
All right,
ordinance number 202605,
an ordinance of the town council of the
town of Winona Lake, Lake County,
Indiana, to establish
East Lake Fire Protection Territory in
the community of the East Lake
Fire Protection Territory General Fund
and East Lake Fire Protection Territory
Equipment Replacement Fund, whereas
pursuant to
Indiana Code 36-8-19,
sequence,
the Indiana General Assembly has
authorized units of local government in
the state of Indiana to establish fire
protection
territories whereas simultaneously with
the adoption of the ordinance of the
city of Lake Station, Indiana
and the town of New Chicago, Indiana as
contiguous units
have entered into an interlocal
cooperation agreement for the
establishment of the
East Lake Fire Protection Territory, a
true and accurate copy
of which is attached here to as Exhibit
A and is incorporated
herein as a matter of fact.
The whereas the interlocal cooperation
agreement between the city and town
provide for a uniform tax rate on all
taxable
property within the boundaries of the
East Lake Fire Protection Territory to
provide
protection services
whereas the Common Council of the town
convened public hearings on January 14,
2026 and February 11, 2026
and February 25,
2026 to discuss the establishment of the
East Lake Fire Protection Territory
whereas the date and time, location of
the forementioned public hearings were
duly and noticed
and advertised pursuant to Indiana law
whereas the town
the city and town have determined that
the establishment of the East Lake Fire
Protection Territory is necessary in
order to protect
the health, safety, and welfare of the
citizens of and in the city and the
town. Now, therefore, be ordained by the
Common Council of the town of New
Chicago, Lake County, Indiana as
follows: Section 1
The East Lake Fire Protection Territory
is hereby created and determined in
accordance with Section of the
interlocal
cooperation agreement
between the city and the town, a true
and accurate copy of which is attached
here to as Exhibit A and is incorporated
herein.
In conformance with the requirements of
the Indiana of Indiana law, the
boundaries checking to the boundaries of
the East Lake Fire Protection territory
shall include all of the incorporated
boundaries of the city of Lake Station
and town of New Chicago.
That the city is authorized to be the
provider unit in the East Lake Fire
Protection territory as that term is
defined in IC 36-8-19-3.
The city and town
are both authorized to be participating
units in the East Lake Fire Protection
territory as that term is defined in IC
36-8-19-2.
Uh section five, that the city and town
shall adopt and impose
a uniform tax rate upon all the taxable
property within the boundaries of the
East Lake Fire Protection territory for
fire protection services to fund the
East Lake Fire Protection territory
general fund and East Lake Fire
Protection territory equipment
replacement fund as created herein.
Consistent section six, consistent with
the terms of the interlocal agreement
the town council of the city of Lake
Station has created the East Lake Fire
Protection territory
general fund and the East Lake Fire
Protection territory equipment
replacement fund. The East Lake Fire
Protection territory general fund shall
be used for
expenses for operating and maintaining
the fire protection services with
in
the territory as provided in IC 36
-8-19-8.
The East Lake Fire Protection territory
equipment replacement fund shall be used
to purchase fire protection equipment
used to serve the entire territory as
provided in IC 36-8-19-8.5.
Section seven, the mayor of the city of
Lake Station and Lake County, Indiana is
hereby authorized to and directed to
take any and all actions incidental to
the establishment of the East Lake Fire
Protection Territory as set forth in the
interlocal cooperation agreement subject
to the approval of the common council of
the city
>> [cough]
[clears throat]
>> or as may be otherwise required by law
if any portion of this ordinance shall
be held invalid or unconstitutional by
any court of competent
jurisdiction, such decision shall not
affect any other portion or provision of
this ordinance.
Section 9, all ordinances or parts of
ordinances inconsistent with this
ordinance
are hereby repealed to the extent so of
such inconsistency.
It is provided, however, that such
repeal shall be only to the extent
of such inconsistency and all other
respects
all ordinances or parts of ordinances
are hereby ratified
and established.
Section 10
This ordinance shall be in full force
and effect from and after its adoption
and the procedures required by law.
Passed by the common council of the town of East Chicago,
Indiana by a vote of all the members
present and voting this 18th day of
March, 2026.
We need a vote on it and
everybody to sign it, please.
>> Need a motion to accept.
>> I'll sign it, please.
>> Need a motion to accept.
>> Make a motion.
>> Motion made. Second?
>> I'll second.
>> All in favor, say aye.
>> Aye.
>> Any opposed?
Motion carried.
>> We need the original to be circulated.
Mine says copy only.
>> Mine says copy only.
>> I have the original. Can I have the
original?
>> Can I have minutes.
» [laughter]
» You know what you're talking about.
Do you motion to pass the minutes for
the last meeting?
>> I make the motion.
>> Motion made, second.
>> I'll second.
>> Second. Any opposed?
All in favor?
>> I.
>> Motion
passed.
Need a motion to pay the
bills.
>> Um,
you skipped the special hearing minutes.
February 25th.
>> [laughter]
» It's right in the minutes.
» B.
>> Oh, okay.
I need to be approved.
>> Mhm.
» Okay.
>> I'll second.
>> Motion made. I need a motion to pass the
minutes of February 25th for the special
hearing meeting.
>> I'll make that motion.
>> Motion made.
Second.
>> I'll second.
>> Second.
All in favor say I.
>> I.
>> Any opposed? Motion passed.
Need a motion payment of bills.
>> I'll make the motion.
>> Motion made. Second.
>> Second.
All in favor say I.
>> I.
>> Any opposed? Motion passed.
Need a motion for the funds and
appropriation report for February
26th.
>> I'll make that motion.
>> Motion made.
>> I'll second.
>> Second.
>> I'll second.
>> All in favor say I.
>> I.
>> Any opposed?
Motion passed.
Uh, correspondence.
>> Okay, um Council will notice that I gave
you all a copy of the agenda for my IIMC
conference that I attended last week.
IIMC advised clerk treasurers to give
Council
a detailed report about our classes
>> [clears throat]
>> uh because of issues and not in this
town but in other areas in the state.
Uh
So, if you did read through then you'll
notice I had a very busy schedule. I had
class on Sunday for 2 and 1/2 hours. I
was in class all day on Monday until
from 8:00 a.m. to 5:30.
8:00 a.m. to 6:30 Tuesday, 8:00 a.m. to
5:30 Wednesday. And then the classes
ended Thursday afternoon. So, it was a
very exhausting week, but I also learned
quite a bit. And these classes do help
me
learn how to serve the town more
efficiently and how to run the office
more efficiently.
>> May I say something on that? I did read
that and I know it's quite a bit, but
it's very informative and I think all
Council should read it to see what
schooling she is getting schooled for.
And it it is very informative.
>> So, I since I have my
IIMC certification
uh and I have enough credits right now
to get my certified municipal clerk
certification, but the International
Institute of Municipal Clerks requires
you to be a member for 2 years.
So, I just have to wait until the fall,
which will be my 2 years and I can get
my CMC and then I can work on my Master
Municipal Clerk certification after
that.
Uh so, these these classes are very
helpful.
And uh the next item of business is uh
after speaking with the Town Council and
reviewing
uh
the documents from First Financial, uh
it is they can better serve us as a town
and the water department.
I am asking at this time that the town
council approve
the town of New Chicago and New Chicago
Water Works
to change banks and to bank with First
Financial and to leave Centier.
>> I'll make that motion to approve
switching over to First Financial.
>> Do we have a second?
>> I'll second.
>> Motion made. All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Any opposed? Motion carried.
>> And then I do have one more thing that
was not on the correspondence and that
is because
it just happened yesterday and today,
but as you all know, I have been working
with Sunder Dalton per State Board of
Accounts request for the previous bank
wrecks in previous years
going back to 2019.
I was with Andrew from Sunder Dalton all
day yesterday until 5:00 p.m.
going through several documents and
transactions
back to 2019.
And I was on the phone with them today
for 2 and 1/2 hours before this meeting.
So, we are at the point where
I can
finish the bank wrecks in one day for
2025, which will probably be one day
next week now. We can move forward with
that.
Uh and everything that State Board of
Accounts has asked for uh from 2019
to 2023,
20 has been fixed.
>> Okay.
>> Good job.
>> Thank you. It's been a lot.
>> [laughter]
» And that's all I have.
» Ordinance.
2026-05,
an ordinance adopting Indiana code
9-24-19-1
as a town ordinance violation and
prescribing penalties.
The town council of the town of New
Chicago, Indiana has the authority to
adopt ordinances concerning traffic and
motor vehicles within the town limits.
And whereas the Indiana General Assembly
has classified the offense of driving
while suspended as an infraction under
state law. And whereas it is in the best
interest of the public health, safety,
and welfare of the residents of the town
of New Chicago to adopt and enforce this
prohibition locally.
Now therefore be it ordained by the town
council of the town of New Chicago,
Indiana as follows section 1 adoption of
state statute.
The provisions of Indiana code 9-24-19-1
as amended which govern the offense of
driving while suspended are hereby
adopted and incorporated by reference as
an incorporation violation of the town
of New Chicago. Any person who violates
the provisions of Indiana code 9-24-19-1
as amended within the corporate limits
of the town of New Chicago commits an
ordinance violation.
Section 2 penalty. Any person found to
have violated this ordinance shall be
subject to a civil fine of $100 and 0
cents plus any applicable cost. Each day
a violation continues shall constitute a
separate offense. Section 3
severability. If any section, paragraph,
clause, or provision of this ordinance
shall be declared invalid or
unconstitutional by a court of competent
jurisdiction such invalidity I cannot say that. Sorry.
Shall not affect the validity of the
remaining sections, paragraphs, clauses,
or provisions of this ordinance.
Section 4 repealer.
All ordinances or parts of the ordinance
in conflict with the provisions of the
ordinance
are hereby
All ordinances or parts of the ordinance
in conflict with the provisions of this
ordinance are hereby repealed to the
extent of such conflict.
This is the first reading of this
ordinance. We do have to have three
hearings for this. The third hearing it
will be passed.
>> Tammy,
you said 26-05
is 26
>> 06, I'm sorry.
>> So, okay.
>> This is 2026-06 and this is the first
reading.
>> Okay.
>> This was advertised in the newspaper.
This will be advertised again before the
next meeting.
This ordinance shall be in full force
and effect from and after its passage by
the town council, approval by the town
executive, and publication as required
by law.
» So, the third reading will be in May. It
will be
>> Mhm.
>> Okay.
>> Unless you guys want to set up a special
meeting.
Okay. This is the first reading of
ordinance 2026-07.
This ordinance was also advertised in
the paper and will be advertised again
before the next reading.
An ordinance amending the municipal code
of the town of New Chicago, Indiana
regarding the operation of vehicles with
expired license plates and establishing
penalties therefore.
Whereas the town of New Chicago whereas
the town council of the town of New
Chicago, Indiana is the legislative body
for the town of New Chicago. And whereas
the town council finds it necessary for
the safety and welfare of its citizens
to ensure all motor vehicles operated
within the town's jurisdiction are
properly registered in accordance with
Indiana law.
And whereas Indiana code 9-18
1-11-2
prohibits the operation of a vehicle
with expired license plates. Now,
therefore, be it ordained by the Town
Council of the Town of New Chicago,
Indiana.
Prohibition
of expired license plates. A person who
owns or operates a vehicle may not
operate or permit the operation of the
vehicle upon the public streets, alleys,
or right-of-way within the corporate
limits of the Town of New Chicago
that is required to be registered under
Indiana law and has an expired license
plate or fails to display a current and
valid registration sticker. Section 2,
violation and enforcement. Any person
found to be in violation of Section 1 of
this ordinance shall be deemed to have a
committed a municipal ordinance
violation. This ordinance shall be
enforced by the New Chicago Police
Department. Section 3, penalty. A person
who violates any provision of this
ordinance shall be subject to a fine of
$100 for each occurrence. Each day such violation continues shall
be deemed as separate offenses.
Section 4, deposit of fines.
All fines collected for violations of
this ordinance shall be deposited into
the Town of New Chicago General Fund or
designated law enforcement fund to
support municipal operations and public
safety.
Section 5, severability. If any part of
this ordinance is held invalid or
unconstitutional by a court of competent
jurisdiction, such decision shall not
affect the validity of the remaining
portions.
Section [clears throat] 6, effective
date. This ordinance shall be in full
force and effect from and after its
passage, approval by the Town Council,
and publication as required by Indiana
Code 36-
3-4-14.
» Um I have a question on this, Tammy.
Uh Um, this um the new fines, where are
they paid in the town hall or in the
county?
>> Lloyd, with the ordinance um
>> So, they get paid when they
Lloyd
>> When they go to court
And the thing about it is if you don't
come down and pay it, then it goes from
100 to
130 to
>> Yeah, but it just should be paid at the
county, not here.
But then it it it reverts back into our
general fund.
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> I would like it though to give these
people a chance to
pay the $100 and not have the court
costs
um
your permission just to be able to pay
it you know to directly to
>> Ah.
>> the court
>> I'm I'm I'm opposed to that, Lloyd, and
you know why? Because we had problems
before with that. That's why everything
went to county and I think it should
stay there.
>> It just costs people $140
40 more dollars.
>> Well, you know, it
>> And then the judge will throw it out.
>> Yeah, whatever.
>> But no, not at
>> In some cases, maybe.
>> But you know
>> But uh
But yeah, I says, you know, I says, I'm
glad it's you know, it's being paid at
the county, not here, because we just
talked about this before.
Big time. And it cost us down quite a
bit of money.
Okay, and then 20 Ordinance 2026-08,
this is an introduction to this
ordinance. This ordinance will be
advertised before the next meeting
before it is adopted.
Senator Dalton sent this to me last
minute.
So, the introduction is an ordinance of
the town of New Chicago, Lake County,
Indiana establishing a processing fee
for credit card, debit card, and
electronic payments and to create the
payment processing fund.
Would you like me to read the whole
ordinance?
>> Unless
it
Does it have a fee for it to whatever?
>> We've already been charging the fee.
Nobody
>> been charging this. It's going to be
retro
>> Uh
So
They told me I just I had to introduce
it.
Uh tonight and then I have to advertise
it after the meeting tonight and then in
April the town council can pass it.
Yes. [clears throat]
>> This is just a reading and introduction.
>> Mhm, yes.
>> Just read it by title.
>> Okay, so I I did just read the title, so
Okay.
And that's all I have for ordinances.
» Hello town council, I am I am the police
tonight.
>> [laughter]
>> I am the police and I am the police
commission, all in one.
So Earl cannot be here tonight, so he's
asked me to read the highlights from the
report of our last meeting. Um
Enforcement activity in the month of
February, officer issued a total of 276
citations, broken down as 149 local
ordinance, 60 state infraction, 26
misdemeanor and 30 written warnings.
Officers towed 65 vehicles.
I'm giving you the CliffNotes version.
Uh officers made a total of 46 custodial
and non-custodial arrests.
In the course of these arrests, they
also confiscated 10 g of crack cocaine
and approximately 50 g of marijuana.
In addition, officers made several
firearms related arrests, including four
individuals identified as serious
violent felons in possession of
firearms. These cases represent a
significant public safety intervention
and align with our continued efforts to
disrupt the movement and sale of illegal
narcotics and unlawful weapons within
our town.
Uh
Ordinance enforcement and property
compliance.
Uh concerns have been raised about 65
McKinley and 411 Washington.
Uh multiple accumulation of trash
citations were issued and several
illegally parked vehicles were
impounded. Both properties have
demonstrated measurable improvement in
yard condition and overall compliance.
Uh fleet status on vehicles, car number
six has been out of service for
approximately 1 month due to engine
issues and now reportedly has been
repaired and is back in circulation. Car
number one had to be returned to the
shop for a water pump pump replacement.
And I believe it is back in circulation
also.
Uh
We've upgraded the Wi-Fi units they
carry in the cars. It allows them to
connect to the internet and do their
business. Those were That was done at no
cost to the town or the police
department. He just got them to upgrade
the cameras.
Uh we're investigating a new evidence
management system
and we're just going to kind of go
through and take a look at that and then
once they've ascertained whether they
want to use that, then they'll move
forward in some way or another after
they've gone through that.
Um
the Flock cameras
They've been You might have noticed that
some of the Flock cameras have been
moved and we've added some.
Uh they've moved the cameras so that
they catch people
with violating license plates
more towards the edge of town so that if
the police are circulating in the middle
of town, they they have more time to get
to them
before they leave the the town region.
So, that's why those cameras were
changed and they added one.
Uh
Trying to see where it is.
Um
Liverpool and DeKalb. No.
One One them the the trailer park is
covering the cost of them. So, none of
this really is additional cost to the
town.
Uh
Operations summary, no cap.
That was it. Okay, I have a question
for you. Ask me a question.
» What did you say the custodian arrest?
What is that?
>> Custody arrest.
>> What?
>> Meaning they take them into custody or
they take them to the police
>> thought you said custodian.
>> No, I
>> No, we're not we're not arresting
custodians in particular. That would be
profiling and we do not profile here.
>> [laughter]
>> But I didn't know what you what you
>> I It's just what it says on the paper.
Custodial arrests where they're taking
people into custody.
>> Okay.
» Fire
Good evening.
Um
as of today for the year we've had 60
calls for emergency service.
Um
I have three new firemen on the uh on the
department.
Uh they all three have their required
state certifications
to be on the department.
So, the only thing they had to do is go
through a 24-hour
um refresher class
with our our equipment, how we do how we
operate, how we do things and everything
else like that. So,
um
We have a recruitment drive going on
right now trying to recruit other
firemen.
Um
And with this uh last few months with
this weather being the way it has,
whether it be freezing cold, snow, and
whatever, I I think the New Chicago
firemen for answering these calls in
this dog on in
weather. I mean, it was it was pretty
tough at times, but
we had suffered through it. So,
uh
once again, thank the council for your
support. And uh that's all I have.
Thank you. You're welcome.
>> Town manager?
>> Um we have an election coming up May
5th. Joe, I need the fire department.
>> For what?
>> An election coming up May 5th.
I need the fire department.
So,
>> Where are we going to put the
truck?
>> Well, I guess we're going to try to get
the doors open on the old town hall and
put them in there.
So, anybody can
help uh I
>> I got I got a question for you real
quick.
When when is the
Or maybe it'll come up under the park.
I want to know when the uh
>> Easter egg hunt is.
>> taking the Easter bunny down to the park
and whatever that that
>> That that'll come up under the parks.
>> [laughter]
>> All right.
>> Okay. So, we have a meeting with um
May 20th. It's not an official meeting.
The bids are coming in hopefully for the
building on the 20th um between 1:00 and
1:30. So, and then we got something
else.
>> 30th.
>> The 30th, we have our software.
So, to try to teach us how to use that.
>> I don't know.
>> 10:30 12:00
>> I don't remember.
>> Chad wanted to have the meeting when you
sent them down by me. He wanted to have
the meeting down there, but he needs
internet and all that other stuff in
the bunker, which is the public works
building,
is sporadic at best with internet. So,
it's going to be have to
be at the school. Were you there? And
[clears throat]
>> But we need you there.
Obviously you don't.
And
I mean that's just what it is.
>> have to come afterwards and talk to you.
>> He said he said he said he anything
that needs to be discussed as far as
that me and him talk
about all that and I told him exactly
what I just said right now that
put you in the loop and anything that he
needs to deal with me with as far as
meters, with district storage of
equipment or anything else like that me
and him will work together with.
>> So Diane's supposed to be coming in,
knock on wood Jesse's going to be okay,
to do the software so to see how we're
going to upgrade it. So it's it's going
to be a mess for a while.
So but anyway that's what's going on. So
if you want to come in and learn how to
do the software you guys are more than
welcome to.
So
>> Joe, you going to be there with the
software?
>> Which software is it?
>> So I need permission to use the fire
station for election.
>> Outside of my realm Jimmy.
>> Okay.
» [laughter]
>> What's the software for?
>> Radio reads.
>> For the radio for the radio reads. Okay.
>> I need a motion to allow me to use the
fire station for election day.
>> I'll make that motion.
>> Motion made need a second.
>> [snorts]
>> I'll second.
>> All in favor say I.
>> I.
>> Any opposed?
>> I need a clean
>> [laughter]
>> May 5th, Cinco de Mayo.
>> Tuesday May
>> Um that's all I have right now.
» Park board thanks sir.
>> All right park board
I don't know if anybody drove past
Clunette's park today but you should
notice a large amount of mulch
that was delivered today.
Um so we are moving forward with these
uh spending of the CDBG grant that we
got uh
a couple years ago now.
Um,
part of that being the mulch, uh which
was delivered today. They're going to
finish that tomorrow.
Um, they're going to be starting the
installation of some of the playground
equipment that we ordered uh later was
it later this week, Tony?
>> Later this week, if the weather does
what it's supposed to do, they'll be
doing it later this week.
>> Um,
and then uh we do have
I would say I I have stuff going on
pretty much every weekend right now. So,
this weekend here at Ross the Boss we do
have the art, craft, and authors fair
that's being put on by the parks
department.
Uh that is March 21st from 10:00 to
4:00.
Uh
March 28th is when we're doing the park
clean up
over at Twin Oaks Park to get it ready
for
uh the Easter egg hunt.
And then the Easter egg hunt will be
April 4th
uh
at 10:00 a.m.
Joe, please do not blow the horn before
10:00 a.m. and try and get me killed
this year like you did last year.
>> [laughter]
>> Standing in the middle of pack of
piranhas when you blew that horn last
year.
>> [laughter]
>> Um, so, what uh
what time you guys are going to bring
the Easter bunnies out? About 9:00 or
something like that?
So, people can get pictures
Yeah.
>> She'll be there at 9:00.
>> Okay.
Um,
and that is pretty much it for the parks
board. Uh we didn't didn't have an
official meeting this month. The uh Ross
the Boss was used, so
we had to postpone our meeting for next
month.
Um,
which I do I did talk with
uh Fred Williams. I'm going to give him
the list of all of our meeting dates
again
because they never got put into their
calendar, which is why
the
uh this
the hall got double-booked the night of
our Parks Board meeting. So,
I am going to give him a list of
you know, I'm just I'm still going to I
know we may not need this room for the
full year still, but I'm still going to
give him, you know, through December.
Just
so we're covered.
>> Yeah.
>> So,
um outside of that, that's all I have
for Parks Board.
>> Planning Commission um
for Planning Commission tonight, we did
have
Mr. There he is over here, Mr. Gula.
Uh we did approve him for building two
duplexes at 129 McKinley.
Um
John went through the uh
ordinances and
we did find that in the ordinances, the
maximum size you can have is a duplex.
So,
he is building two duplexes there, two
separate units.
Um
he does have enough space. Um
he did provide us the plan and showed us
the plans and everything, showed us
John.
Uh
he does have enough space to put in the
four septic tanks that would be
required.
Um
so, with John's guidance and, you know,
uh confirm confirming with the lawyer
that everything met ordinance standards,
uh
the Planning Commission did approve him
to build. So, we're seeking the
council's approval to
uh go ahead and
>> We We need a motion
to approve this.
We need a motion to approve for him to
build
the building. Duplex, did you say that?
>> the building two buildings
>> He's building two buildings, that's
right.
Oh.
Yeah, and then
he didn't speak to Robert on the MS 4
side of things and also water
put in four separate pits, water meter
pits.
And make sure
Yeah, it'll be
One building will have two units, the
other building will have two units.
And MS
>> [clears throat]
>> 4 separate connections we have. Yeah.
They they complied with
according to what we wanted them to
He started and he brought in some nice
set of plans showing exactly how this
was going to happen.
So, we need a motion to approve that.
>> I'll make that motion.
>> Motion made. Second?
>> I'll second.
>> Second. All in favor say aye.
>> Aye.
>> Any opposed? Motion
>> Good job, Skula.
>> Thank you, sir.
>> And the second person we had on the
agenda for tonight
was Mr. Patel from Southern Elephants.
They were looking to open a laundromat.
They did not bring any information with
them, so we did not approve at this
time.
Uh and
>> Their apartment they got rented out to
>> No,
the building that the other part of the
building that they own that they rent out the I think it was
like
>> In the back of that in the in the back?
>> Yeah, the one that's pink right now.
>> Yeah.
the one that's painted
>> There's a portion in the back of that.
>> Mhm.
>> Well, and that's that's the thing is
we're not going to approve that.
>> There's not enough for something like
that.
>> Well, and like I said, they didn't bring
plans, they didn't bring anything.
So,
Yeah, well, we told them
they need to they need to have plans
created by an architect or engineer
because this isn't like a house where
you're just going to hook up, you know,
a little gas line and a little water
line for the washer. This is
you
>> know, that's going to be a lot of water,
a lot of gas, a lot of electric.
And we requested that once they do have
those drawings
to give us, you know, a couple weeks of
notice at least.
Um so that we can make sure that Lou is
at our planning commission meeting,
Robert is there
um for water, you know, Lou's there for
electric, John is there for building.
You know, we want
>> Everything that needs to
>> Everyone is there. But, you know, that
way Lou can speak to it as far as, you
know, is that the right electric
paneling, you know, is that the right
wiring that is shown on the plans. So.
>> Okay.
>> But, that was it for planning commission
and then
I'll just have one other thing under
other business later on. So.
>> Okay.
>> Sewer.
>> Thank you. Let me give you the sewer.
>> I thought we started with water.
See what I know. How many of you
All right, sewer.
>> I'm going down the list.
>> I said
» [clears throat]
>> I spoke to Mickey Anderson today. Bypass
system for lift stations have been
tentatively scheduled for next week,
weather permitting,
for installation.
And the lift station on Van Buren
was out due to the power outage, but the
lift station on Harrison compensated for
it and kept all levels
at a safe
level, so there was no raw sewage or
anything spilling out. And I checked it
numerous times during the day and
numerous emergency calls that were
addressed.
And
everything worked out fine. That's why
we're putting this bypass system in, so
as power outages come, we can directly
force pump it down the line.
Roadways as quickly as possible and to
keep all traffic flowing.
I would also like to thank
the Hobart Streets Department
as well as Lake Station for their help
in the use of their four-ways and their
stop signs that they helped you let us
use and put out.
I got people.
So,
I just want to
>> Um
>> Yes.
>> We need to order some more stop signs
and so we don't have to keep borrowing.
>> Correct.
>> Yeah, the guys the guys can make them.
Maybe we order the signs, they can make
the stands.
>> Right. Right. But we have to get some
lumber I'm going to see if we have any
lumber over in the pole barn where we
can
>> there's there's there's all that lumber
down in the old building
from in the in the basement in the
storage room.
>> On the shelves?
>> Yeah.
>> That's That is true.
>> There's a lot there.
>> I don't I don't want to get
shot with a paintball gun or something
like that if I go in there for training.
So,
>> nailed and maybe too hard to get out.
>> Don't go at midnight.
>> Yeah, you know, I don't want to get You
might be training that day and I don't
want to get shot with a paintball. So,
you know, I'm not the most
liked guy around here.
>> [laughter]
» Robert, I think that is nailed down
there.
>> Right.
>> sure and I think it's just going to be
>> I mean, that's a That's a great idea to
recycle that lumber and reuse it and
that'll save the town money. I have no
problem with that. None. I
>> Those are spikes they've got in those.
>> The only thing we'll need that we can't
make is
the stop signs. We will have to order at
least four. We need three of them. We
have one.
But
>> Then you get what you
>> Me and the town manager spoke and we
could get away with making one for the
time being because I mean the odds of
all three of them going out which just
happened. I don't know.
Kind of
you know, they're kind of it's kind of
rare that it does happen. Two would be
sufficient and if need be we might
[clears throat] even have some old stop
signs
in the pole barn. I haven't really I've
been kind of busy the last couple of
weeks, okay? [laughter] So
it's just you know, I got to
get it but they will get done and it
will be dressed before Josh gets his
data center up.
>> Thank [clears throat] you. Sanitation.
You got anything for garbage?
» Uh sewers, streets.
Sanitation.
>> That's garbage. Now water
>> Sanitation.
>> No, because water the
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. I didn't
like to pass these out and I just want
to
please share these please cuz I didn't
have enough copies. I'm sorry.
» Sure. Yes. Absolutely.
» There you go.
And share with you already know what
this is.
I'd just like to say that there was a
This is an ordinance regarding water.
Okay?
No one tampers with the water system
unless they are approved to tamper with
the water system. Turn on, turn off.
Okay?
This last week I was running around I as
she knows
the town manager we had to pull a pit
because if they did just this
and
did that.
And another pit that gets broke. And
when it gets broke contrary to what
anyone ever thinks this guy's going to
get the call to fix it.
All right, when water's rushing up and
people are panicking and everything else
like that I'm going to get over there
and do it. So please do not touch
anything with the water without
approval.
That's all I'm being nice. I'm just
going to say it like that. So please
don't get in your pits, okay?
Poor Joe got the brunt of it last week.
>> [laughter]
>> Tell anybody that they can get in
>> Right, because everyone it doesn't
matter
who you are, who you work for, what you
do with it. Everybody's held to the same
standard.
Okay, cuz usually when this happens
we go over and we pull the meter
out of the pit.
Okay?
But
insinuating circumstances didn't allow
me to do that. So just please
don't do it. That's all I'm saying.
Don't do it.
All right, thank you.
Yes, sir. Now I will
All right.
A new water main project has been
completed.
2-in line was ran servicing the
uh
Knob Hill area with approximately I
think six or seven houses that are fed
to it and it's up and running. The only
thing left to do
is our restoration and that'll be done
when weather weather allows by H&G
underground.
A new hydra was installed on Liverpool
and Decatur.
In keeping with the commitment of New
Chicago standards of continually
maintaining and upgrading the water
system to operate at peak performance
that our customers have grown to expect.
Several pairs were being done to water
mains and breaks as well as services
from unauthorized people tampering with
them also last week as I just stated
that we had to go out and literally
take a whole pit out of the ground. Lake
Station had to put a stop order of work
order on a house.
And then it's just it was a big mess and
Please.
All right, all meters and lids have been
delivered and are on standby for the
upcoming installation.
They're all over in the building. Chad
from Adam Marsh
came over, took pictures, looked at
everything
and
everything is ready to go. We've talked
about like I said the staging area.
They're going to have access
to the public works building yard. Not
the public works building, the yard to
store their trucks because they feel
more comfortable with it being in a
locked secured fenced area for their
equipment and
it makes perfect sense for us to help
them because they're helping us. So, we
already spoke about that and it's
pretty much an okay.
Uh
what else? Uh hmm
Uh that's just a bypass system.
That's pretty much it. We had a few
breaks that we fixed.
Two H&G had to come out after we fixed
the one. One literally 20 ft away broke
and that had to be fixed and all of it
was mostly
4-in and 2-in lines.
And
it's not to the point where that needs
to be replaced or anything else like
that because this is the first time
since I've been here that any of those
lines have broke. So, we're still in
good working order and like I said, we go out, we try, we flush, we do our
best to keep everything operational and
people can wake up in the morning and
turn their faucet on and expect water to
come up out of it.
>> What are we going to do about patching
them?
>> Hole patching?
>> No. Let's patching. Where we had the
main breaks, are we going to get Chris
to do that? Are we going to wait for the
>> I I had it on my desk. I'm I apologize
for that. I had it out there for the
last 3 days. I've been meaning to get it
to you. He put in a bid. I forgot what
the bid was that you told me that that
other individual did.
>> all three of them?
>> Yes.
>> Arthur?
>> All three of them.
>> And the two on Indiana Street?
>> Indiana and the one on
Iowa and
Arthur.
>> Okay.
>> He I forgot what you told me what it
was, but he gave me a number and then he
told me whatever the number was that the
other individual with it
he would match it to keep
>> Okay.
>> a good relationship with Mishawaka.
>> The reason why he asked, Evan Myers said
if they were doing our streets and they
were close to it, maybe they'd just
swing over there and take care of them.
>> Right.
>> Um when's that happening?
April?
>> [clears throat]
>> I mean
>> They're all filled with number eight and
speaking of that, I have to
have the town treasurer give me some
more number eight. So,
>> Okay.
>> So,
they're all filled with number eight.
They're solid. They're not going to
damage anything and now that, you know,
hopefully knock on wood, the uh snow is
gone.
It's
not going to be We're not going to be
plowing there in any way. And the ones
are Indiana, we [clears throat]
That's Lake stations to deal with.
But we do help out with them.
>> I'm not mistaken, the the east side of
Indiana is ours, right?
>> It is. And we tore up the road, so we're
going to repair it. That's why we're
going to That's why we're fixing both
spots. But the one on Iowa and Arthur is
off
on the apron.
>> I mean, somebody has driven on it, but
there's
>> Exactly. But there's not We keep it
filled with And instead of wasting our
number eight because I started to get
low, and we were using it for brakes,
I started using millings in there.
Because we have millings, so again, I'm
trying to be economically smart with our
what we have.
So
we put millings in there as they get out
because as you drive through it, you
know, cars take it down the street with
them.
So we have to, you know, keep it where
it's at least level
and not creating a hazard.
>> And I'd like to say, besides everything
that these guys at the public works
building do, they're out there every
week picking up papers, cleaning the
drains, and that's on a weekly basis. So
if you see papers, it's because it's
blown. It's not because they've not
picked them up. They will get picked up.
These guys do it every week.
They're I mean, it's just a given thing.
>> Well, I was going to tell you
that it would be counted.
>> So they don't sit still.
>> Thank you, Robert.
You're welcome. Any other questions?
>> Um I do have something to add. I wanted
to add uh I forgot to tell the council
uh CCMG, I received an email from INDOT,
and our award should be in the bank
tomorrow.
>> Yeah.
>> Good.
>> That's for the roads, the paving?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> I thought you were going to give me a
reward.
>> [laughter]
>> That's all.
>> I am. Timmy, let me ask you something.
Have you
I mean Robert
and if you and Timmy with
Brian
uh
>> Yes.
>> with our money getting returning our
money. Have either one of you heard
anything?
>> As of I heard from Ryan
yesterday, I believe.
Uh
>> Since I'm not going to be
>> the paperwork
is done.
We're waiting for INDOT
to get approval for the funds to be
released.
Because it's sitting on I forgot his
name. It's on my desk over there, but
it's already
our paperwork is done and sitting on the
man's desk and he's sitting
all that.
for the funding. And we're waiting on
the funding to be released so they can
start distributing it.
>> [cough]
>> And what he said [clears throat] they
don't send emails to me, they all go to
Sue.
>> But I think maybe they will send you a
check.
>> They probably will.
>> And if they do, please let us know.
Okay.
>> I will.
>> Cuz I you know I'm watching it and I
want to make sure I get that money back.
>> It's so dear.
>> Huh?
Oh no, don't even say that. [laughter]
>> But that's still on the desk. To answer
your question, the last I know about it
on our end as far as the town
it's on the desk. It's our paperwork is
done.
>> Please see it. It is very very nice.
We just had Lou over there hooking up
the chargers.
Your truck.
>> With Robert.
>> Yeah.
>> I wouldn't even like electricity and I
became electrician.
>> [laughter]
>> But you guys need to see the electric
truck. It is a
>> Well, all you got to do is walk out in
the parking lot. It's right out there.
>> It is so nice. It is so nice.
>> So about storm water.
Okay.
He's doing storm water.
>> Okay. Go ahead.
>> Okay. MS4 MS4 updates
to the MS4 ordinance are forthcoming in
the near future as to keep in compliance
with the growing community and item
regulations.
As always, teams are sent out to clean
all storm drains and any debris out in
the streets on a daily basis. I had
literally I used a whole
box of garbage black garbage bags today
from going from Tyler all around and
everything else cuz when those winds
came out
>> Yes, it was horrible.
>> It was everywhere and
>> Garbage was blowing everywhere.
>> We just we just try to get them between
me and Gabriel going and doing other
stuff. So, there's not delaying
the ladies upstairs doing their job. We
go and do that
and I have the other guys out policing
the town.
So, that way I mean we can main
you know, some kind of
you know, hold on it because if you let
it go it will get out of get after you
real quick.
>> Well, the garbage men were in Brenda was
there and they apologized because it was
so windy that day. 60-70 mile an hour
winds again.
>> I had bags back in the
garage and I wasn't paying attention to
the wind.
>> I didn't set mine out.
>> But, they were literally out today like
I said, a whole box of them and
I had I had three teams out there. I had
one guy on one side, one guy on the
other side and
starting from both ends to back and
meeting in the middle.
>> Good job. You guys did a good job. Thank
you.
>> Thank you.
>> We have any new business?
Liaison reports?
>> Nothing.
Announcements?
None.
Any old business come before the
council?
>> I I do have a couple things for that. Um
One, and this is something that I'm
going to ask
or ask Danny to be put on the agenda for
the next month.
Um Brenda, you and I kind of spoke about
this the other night.
Uh
we are looking at upgrading the email
system for the town.
Uh there are a couple of reasons for
this. One, better security
for the town.
Two,
uh storage space.
>> [snorts]
>> Um currently Tammy and
uh Chief Mayo are both at about 65% of
their storage.
Uh for their email. They only have 10 GB
of storage.
Now, could some of that be freed up?
Possibly.
But I don't know what record retention
is for the clerk-treasurer's office
and the police department.
So,
you know, to be able to make sure that
we have enough storage space, you know,
for these records,
we're going to be looking at upgrading
the
email system.
Um
there will be a cost associated with
that. I am working with the state, with
IOT,
uh with actually with their
not subcontractor, but with the company
that they have their QPA with,
uh SHI,
uh who's the vendor that we would go
through to do this.
Um
I did have a meeting with them this
afternoon. They're supposed to be
sending me a quote. So, next month I'll
have more of a presentation for you. But it's
just something I wanted to let you guys
know that it's something that's coming
down the pike and something that have to
be done at some point.
>> Can you use external hard drives, Joe?
In the In the
So, I don't know what the law is, but if
you could download it on external hard
drives.
» Can I ask something? I know nothing
about this kind of stuff but Sue, what
is it that we
Dorothy implemented for our files?
>> What?
» Um, she we had
>> have that anymore?
>> I don't know what she did with it.
>> Well, you know it's
>> And then we got hacked, remember?
UBS drive that
>> It's called No, and they take all our
files once it's been audited and they
come and they get them and they put them
on that and
>> It was inner It was Opportunity
Enterprise that did that.
>> Is that something with email if that
>> No, they were probably digitizing old
paper files.
>> They were digitizing
claims and payroll.
>> Yeah, they were they were taking your
paper files and
digitizing them.
» No.
>> Separate thing.
>> No.
it's not a question.
Um, but I'm I'm trying to get this done
as cheaply as possible.
Right now from what I've found online
Um, and I I kind of I parsed it out
between
police department
town and parks.
Um, the parks would be paying about
roughly 450 a year, I think is what
parks would be paying for their portion.
Um
town was right around 500 a year.
Um
and then police was substantially higher
because they of course had more
email addresses. Each officer had their
own
email address.
So,
and I I don't honestly don't remember
the number right off the top of to say
it was around 1200
a year. I could be
off on that number though.
Um
So, but what this would actually give us
is each from the meeting I had today,
each account would have 30 GB
of storage, but it's also a pooled
storage.
So,
say, you know,
um
one of the police officers, you know,
one of the reserve officers isn't
well, using that much storage space cuz
he only works, you know, couple days a
month,
well, if Tammy needs extra storage
space, some of his storage space can go
to her. So, it can be
>> No, man.
>> it can be shared.
>> Okay, it can be moved so nobody can get
into her stuff.
>> Right.
Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, no one will be
able to get into her stuff. It's just
I'm saying that the the space itself,
like can be chunked out to her.
So,
um
>> I can't say joy. I know.
>> I know.
>> [laughter]
>> So, there I will like I said, next month
I'll have more of a
presentation for you once they send me
all the details. I just wanted to kind
of
get that in your guys' mind
for now.
Um the other thing I have
um
as you guys all know, I do road
construction inspection.
>> The what?
>> You all know I do road construction
inspection. It's my main job.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And [clears throat] this is my busy
season.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm also going to be working in Argos
starting in May.
>> You're going I'm sorry.
>> Argos.
US 31 south of Plymouth.
>> Now, is that in Argos?
>> Beautiful Argos, Indiana.
Um
>> I think it is in Argos.
>> Yeah.
>> All the way to Knox or past Knox?
>> Uh
it's both.
>> Just past
>> Past past.
>> Yeah, it's past Knox. Knox is on 35.
So, I'm going to even further down
[clears throat] south.
Wow.
>> Yeah.
So, time Time zone change.
>> Also, what?
>> Yay.
Anyway,
um
I would like
for
a volunteer from the council or from
somebody,
you know, from the town
to meet with me
so that I can show them how to set up
this lovely little system that we use.
That way, cuz there may be a time where
I don't make it here
due to work.
>> What?
>> So,
>> Well,
I I see somebody.
>> [laughter]
>> I I think you just got volunteered,
Tony.
>> I I think I got volun-told. Uh yeah.
>> I didn't say a word.
>> [laughter]
>> So, all right. So, yeah. I'll I will
write up instructions on how to
set up the Setting it up is easy. So,
>> You you willing to do that sometime?
>> We'll figure it out.
>> I think
>> So, we did contact
um
Mervan's office
about a upgrade for the technology for
the police department. The parks put in
for two grants. One was a no.
Liz called me. So, anyway, this is for
2027,
but Earl and Golfing got the grant
together, submitted it to Liz, and Joe
or Morgan, whoever did the grant for the
parks. So, um
the
we have that. Don't know if we'll get
any money or not, but you can't get any
money if you don't do a grant. So,
anyway, we've got that done. So, we're
just knocking on wood. Liz did call me
and asked me for some more information.
I'm hoping to get something for that
building over there so it doesn't cost
you guys a million dollars to do
upgrades so for technology.
So.
» Lloyd Hubbs.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you.
Open forum.
>> He owns the property at 104 Lincoln and
is interested in buying the lot next to
it.
>> I forgot you. I'm sorry.
>> Thanks, Sue. I appreciate that.
>> I'm sorry.
>> [laughter]
>> Um
>> I'm here to remind you.
>> Thank you.
So, far um that is the um
>> Can you go to Connie?
>> We own it.
>> No. Oh, we own it?
>> We own it. We used to make Robert Mowat.
>> 104 Lincoln.
>> Yes. It's um
>> We still do.
>> On the north side or south?
>> It's on the north side. It's a big lot
that's right there.
We are on We're on Lincoln.
>> On Lincoln.
>> Go to Lincoln. Go down from the past the
town hall to the first stop sign. Don't
go to Dave's. Turn left. And that lot
right there on the left hand side.
>> From the alley to Yeah. Lincoln.
>> Okay.
>> So, we How does that work, Lloyd? I
believe we got to get two appraisals.
>> Yeah, I think we got to get two.
>> And I think they just passed a new law
that we have to do that.
>> So, we have to have two appraisals?
>> I don't know.
>> Well, we're going to look into it
>> and then see um
we have no use for it.
Sharon, this is like one of the things
that we went with Dorothy to IUN and
said, "Hey,
take the property and see if you would
like to purchase it or take it on and
» Republicans decided it wasn't a good
idea.
>> It wasn't.
>> So, but anyway, we do own that. We have
no use for it. We're never going to
build on that.
So, Lloyd, can you look into that and
see if we have to have I I read
something the law that they just passed
um um
about municipal owning properties and to
get rid of it, but I'm not sure. So.
>> Uh maybe if you can have that and don't
wait till the next meeting and then let
Cindy know ahead of time so they can
make sure
>> know what they would have to do.
>> Yes, she has our information.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you.
>> Sorry.
>> But in the meantime if it gets spring
you can cut.
>> [laughter]
>> Feel free to cut the grass.
>> The Is Am I right the last name?
>> Mine's Collins, his is Kill.
>> Oh, Kill. Yeah. Cindy's
>> Cindy's husband.
>> Yeah.
All right, Cindy.
» Oh, you're busy.
>> Thank you for coming.
Comments from the board?
>> I I have one. Sorry, Robert, but are you
aware of all the potholes on Van Buren?
>> Do you know we're going to pave that?
>> There you [laughter] go.
>> Where Where by What's her name's house?
Yeah, there's there's potholes there
that I have to maneuver. I have to drive
in the middle of the road.
>> Well, some of those
are potholes.
>> And I have them in my in my in in my
driveway. The big
>> Well, we can't do nothing about your
driveway.
>> No, not my driveway.
The [laughter] road by my driveway is
>> Thank you.
>> where the road by my driveway there's
>> The ones that are
holes and not
uh
what do you call God, I can't
layers. Some of them are layers and
people mistake them for holes. They're
not holes, they're layers. Cuz when they
layer them over them
and
they patch over them, patch over them, and when they lay it
they just lay another
asphalt over the top of that. But if
there are holes, there are genuine
holes, you know, I have three people
that work for Okay, and you know, we
can't be everywhere at one time and that
is we have a limited amount of cold
patch until the plants open.
>> Mhm.
>> But
if there are severe holes over there
tomorrow morning, I will make a note,
and I will go look, see,
and
>> Can you do the one on Michigan cuz
there's potholes now.
>> Which one again?
>> In front of Don's living room.
>> Yeah, that's that's the one.
>> No, we can't display in front of
Wiggins' house.
>> That's that's the one.
>> I just told
Joe what Joe said the same thing.
>> Joe, do you know the streets that are
getting done?
>> I don't think so.
>> If there are Like I said, if there's
holes, I will tomorrow morning when I
do whatever I got to do,
I will I mean
I got a list this big, and like I said,
I well, they ain't going to patch then
if if it's ever green.
>> 24, sorry.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> No, you said that last month.
>> Yes, I did.
>> I I I didn't know.
>> I actually knew this time.
>> And also
>> at
11:00
>> Yeah, same time.
>> Do you know what they did on
the bridge over there? They were working
on that yesterday.
>> In Lake Station?
>> Well, yeah, well, yeah.
>> They're putting a new water line there.
They're taking the old one down that's
hanging on the bridge, right? What are
they doing, Robert? Cuz they're parking
their trucks in our apartment lot.
>> Yeah, they are.
>> It's been going on.
>> I know.
>> But why?
The line that was hanging up longer than
the same one that we have on Michigan is
the same concept they have over there.
They removed the old line because it was
hanging there, and debris was falling
into the river, and they didn't want
item to
come talk to them.
>> Okay.
>> So, it was all They didn't repair it.
They just took it down. They removed it
all, and that [clears throat] line is
now running underneath the river like
ours over on Route 6.
>> Okay.
But they did have the trucks parked over
the park and I forgot to tell anybody.
>> [laughter]
» Yeah.
>> They had one there.
>> Yeah.
But they're gone now. They're done?
>> They've been gone.
>> Since when?
>> Done and gone.
>> Who called you?
>> called me
» Who was it?
>> Looked it up.
» The appraisal process is
First of all, we got to
uh
require approval from the town's
executive, which would be you guys, the
town.
Um
and notice has to be given to
appraisers.
>> That's why
>> And then
So, it's expensive and getting
time-consuming, but and here's the thing that we may be able to do
with.
If the lot is small and has low value,
typically less than $15,000,
or is landlocked, the town may be able
to negotiate directly with the
landowners whose property it touches.
So, I don't know if that's
>> Well, it's right on the corner and he
lives next door.
>> Yeah, I think it touches.
>> Yeah, I'm sure it does. Yeah. So, but I
asked them before if they wanted to buy
it and that's when she had cancer and
they said they didn't have the money at
that time. So, now she's passed away and
he's interested in it. So, where do we get the I mean, who's
got to pay for the appraiser?
He's not an appraiser.
>> He's not an appraiser. He's going to
tell you the dimensions of it.
>> Well, you it's You can Google it. Go on
GIS. Fred can tell you what it is.
>> But then, I mean, we have to get two
appraisers and it has to be an open bid
once we go through that one.
>> Yeah, no, you're exactly right. Like the
towns like towns or cities or whatever
usually have
like a trust that this deals with it.
They they all property in this and that
and everything else on how to sell it,
how not to sell it. Did I I explained it
to you when you called me that?
They
>> [laughter]
>> And because I just went through all
this,
and
it's it's not a hard process. Like
>> You just said it's just you have to
>> But who's going to pay for the
appraisals? We're not.
>> Probably will get it done because we got
to sell this property. We need an
appraisal.
You know, maybe they could pay for it,
but you don't want them to pay for it
because
>> Then they won't buy it.
>> Yeah, well, then the appraisal will say
well, that's cheap, but you know,
whatever.
>> No, I think it'd be more than that. Like
you just said I like lots
[clears throat] around here are probably
like you said in the neighborhood of
between 50 and
>> So
>> 20, 25,000.
» When it's that price,
like 15,000,
>> I I would say that's below 15,000.
>> Yeah.
>> But if if it's 25,000,
» By me, they are.
>> You get the appraisals, and then that
gets thrown out.
>> So if I if I can get one of my people to
give me a free appraisal on it,
>> Well, that you could do that.
>> You got people?
>> I got people.
>> I haven't looked at all this stuff to
pay for it now.
But it's just
You know, and then they have to be done
before this board can state
>> When I bought that other lot behind the
town hall, remember? When Tony called me
that day and said, "Come down, meet me.
I'm selling it to you."
>> Was it like 10,000?
>> I think we paid 15 for it, didn't we,
Tim?
>> I think so.
>> Yes, 15.
>> I think That's a big lot.
>> lot. It's bigger than this one.
>> Right. Okay. All right. We'll check into
that void and then
>> I'll give you the details and I just
[clears throat] wanted to let you know
while we were all discussing it.
>> Yeah.
I think I read that. That's why I said
>> Motion to adjourn?
Need a motion to adjourn?
>> I'll make the motion.
>> Motion made.
>> I'll second.
>> Second.
All in favor say "Aye."
>> Aye.