[0:03] Allegiance to the flag
[0:05] of the United States of America, and to
[0:08] the republic for which it stands, one
[0:11] nation under God,
[0:13] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:16] for all.
[0:21] » Welcome.
[0:21] >> Vice President Anderson?
[0:23] >> Here.
[0:24] >> President Gibson?
[0:25] >> Here.
[0:26] >> Member Brecko?
[0:27] >> Here.
[0:28] >> Member Swallow?
[0:29] >> Here.
[0:29] >> Member Speedo?
[0:37] » Five territory public hearing.
[0:39] Ordinance adoption.
[0:43] I'm sorry.
[0:45] Yeah, just
[0:58] » Then we need to go through the
[0:59] ordinance.
[1:00] Do we go through the ordinance again,
[1:02] please?
[1:03] Go through it here.
[1:05] Do we go through the ordinance again?
[1:07] Yes, we go through it.
[1:08] Do we go through it?
[1:10] >> Yeah, I can I can go through it again.
[1:11] Okay, the ordinance is here on page
[1:16] I have it.
[1:17] My name is
[1:20] All right,
[1:22] ordinance number 202605,
[1:25] an ordinance of the town council of the
[1:27] town of Winona Lake, Lake County,
[1:29] Indiana, to establish
[1:30] East Lake Fire Protection Territory in
[1:33] the community of the East Lake
[1:35] Fire Protection Territory General Fund
[1:38] and East Lake Fire Protection Territory
[1:41] Equipment Replacement Fund, whereas
[1:43] pursuant to
[1:44] Indiana Code 36-8-19,
[1:47] sequence,
[1:49] the Indiana General Assembly has
[1:52] authorized units of local government in
[1:54] the state of Indiana to establish fire
[1:56] protection
[1:58] territories whereas simultaneously with
[2:00] the adoption of the ordinance of the
[2:02] city of Lake Station, Indiana
[2:04] and the town of New Chicago, Indiana as
[2:07] contiguous units
[2:09] have entered into an interlocal
[2:11] cooperation agreement for the
[2:13] establishment of the
[2:14] East Lake Fire Protection Territory, a
[2:17] true and accurate copy
[2:19] of which is attached here to as Exhibit
[2:21] A and is incorporated
[2:24] herein as a matter of fact.
[2:26] The whereas the interlocal cooperation
[2:29] agreement between the city and town
[2:31] provide for a uniform tax rate on all
[2:34] taxable
[2:35] property within the boundaries of the
[2:37] East Lake Fire Protection Territory to
[2:39] provide
[2:40] protection services
[2:42] whereas the Common Council of the town
[2:44] convened public hearings on January 14,
[2:47] 2026 and February 11, 2026
[2:50] and February 25,
[2:52] 2026 to discuss the establishment of the
[2:55] East Lake Fire Protection Territory
[2:57] whereas the date and time, location of
[3:00] the forementioned public hearings were
[3:02] duly and noticed
[3:04] and advertised pursuant to Indiana law
[3:06] whereas the town
[3:08] the city and town have determined that
[3:09] the establishment of the East Lake Fire
[3:12] Protection Territory is necessary in
[3:14] order to protect
[3:16] the health, safety, and welfare of the
[3:18] citizens of and in the city and the
[3:21] town. Now, therefore, be ordained by the
[3:23] Common Council of the town of New
[3:25] Chicago, Lake County, Indiana as
[3:27] follows: Section 1
[3:30] The East Lake Fire Protection Territory
[3:32] is hereby created and determined in
[3:35] accordance with Section of the
[3:36] interlocal
[3:37] cooperation agreement
[3:39] between the city and the town, a true
[3:42] and accurate copy of which is attached
[3:43] here to as Exhibit A and is incorporated
[3:46] herein.
[3:48] In conformance with the requirements of
[3:50] the Indiana of Indiana law, the
[3:52] boundaries checking to the boundaries of
[3:54] the East Lake Fire Protection territory
[3:56] shall include all of the incorporated
[3:58] boundaries of the city of Lake Station
[4:01] and town of New Chicago.
[4:03] That the city is authorized to be the
[4:06] provider unit in the East Lake Fire
[4:08] Protection territory as that term is
[4:11] defined in IC 36-8-19-3.
[4:14] The city and town
[4:17] are both authorized to be participating
[4:19] units in the East Lake Fire Protection
[4:21] territory as that term is defined in IC
[4:25] 36-8-19-2.
[4:29] Uh section five, that the city and town
[4:32] shall adopt and impose
[4:34] a uniform tax rate upon all the taxable
[4:37] property within the boundaries of the
[4:39] East Lake Fire Protection territory for
[4:42] fire protection services to fund the
[4:44] East Lake Fire Protection territory
[4:46] general fund and East Lake Fire
[4:49] Protection territory equipment
[4:50] replacement fund as created herein.
[4:53] Consistent section six, consistent with
[4:55] the terms of the interlocal agreement
[4:58] the town council of the city of Lake
[5:00] Station has created the East Lake Fire
[5:03] Protection territory
[5:05] general fund and the East Lake Fire
[5:08] Protection territory equipment
[5:10] replacement fund. The East Lake Fire
[5:12] Protection territory general fund shall
[5:14] be used for
[5:16] expenses for operating and maintaining
[5:18] the fire protection services with
[5:20] in
[5:21] the territory as provided in IC 36
[5:25] -8-19-8.
[5:27] The East Lake Fire Protection territory
[5:29] equipment replacement fund shall be used
[5:32] to purchase fire protection equipment
[5:35] used to serve the entire territory as
[5:37] provided in IC 36-8-19-8.5.
[5:42] Section seven, the mayor of the city of
[5:45] Lake Station and Lake County, Indiana is
[5:48] hereby authorized to and directed to
[5:50] take any and all actions incidental to
[5:53] the establishment of the East Lake Fire
[5:55] Protection Territory as set forth in the
[5:58] interlocal cooperation agreement subject
[6:01] to the approval of the common council of
[6:04] the city
[6:05] >> [cough]
[6:06] [clears throat]
[6:07] >> or as may be otherwise required by law
[6:09] if any portion of this ordinance shall
[6:12] be held invalid or unconstitutional by
[6:14] any court of competent
[6:17] jurisdiction, such decision shall not
[6:20] affect any other portion or provision of
[6:22] this ordinance.
[6:23] Section 9, all ordinances or parts of
[6:26] ordinances inconsistent with this
[6:28] ordinance
[6:29] are hereby repealed to the extent so of
[6:32] such inconsistency.
[6:34] It is provided, however, that such
[6:36] repeal shall be only to the extent
[6:40] of such inconsistency and all other
[6:43] respects
[6:45] all ordinances or parts of ordinances
[6:47] are hereby ratified
[6:48] and established.
[6:51] Section 10
[6:54] This ordinance shall be in full force
[6:56] and effect from and after its adoption
[7:00] and the procedures required by law.
[7:02] Passed by the common council of the town of East Chicago,
[7:06] Indiana by a vote of all the members
[7:08] present and voting this 18th day of
[7:10] March, 2026.
[7:13] We need a vote on it and
[7:15] everybody to sign it, please.
[7:16] >> Need a motion to accept.
[7:19] >> I'll sign it, please.
[7:21] >> Need a motion to accept.
[7:23] >> Make a motion.
[7:24] >> Motion made. Second?
[7:25] >> I'll second.
[7:27] >> All in favor, say aye.
[7:28] >> Aye.
[7:30] >> Any opposed?
[7:32] Motion carried.
[7:33] >> We need the original to be circulated.
[7:35] Mine says copy only.
[7:38] >> Mine says copy only.
[7:40] >> I have the original. Can I have the
[7:41] original?
[7:42] >> Can I have minutes.
[7:48] » [laughter]
[7:51] » You know what you're talking about.
[8:01] Do you motion to pass the minutes for
[8:03] the last meeting?
[8:04] >> I make the motion.
[8:05] >> Motion made, second.
[8:07] >> I'll second.
[8:08] >> Second. Any opposed?
[8:11] All in favor?
[8:12] >> I.
[8:14] >> Motion
[8:15] passed.
[8:17] Need a motion to pay the
[8:20] bills.
[8:20] >> Um,
[8:21] you skipped the special hearing minutes.
[8:26] February 25th.
[8:27] >> [laughter]
[8:30] » It's right in the minutes.
[8:33] » B.
[8:34] >> Oh, okay.
[8:37] I need to be approved.
[8:39] >> Mhm.
[8:43] » Okay.
[8:44] >> I'll second.
[8:44] >> Motion made. I need a motion to pass the
[8:46] minutes of February 25th for the special
[8:49] hearing meeting.
[8:50] >> I'll make that motion.
[8:51] >> Motion made.
[8:53] Second.
[8:54] >> I'll second.
[8:55] >> Second.
[8:56] All in favor say I.
[8:57] >> I.
[8:58] >> Any opposed? Motion passed.
[9:04] Need a motion payment of bills.
[9:07] >> I'll make the motion.
[9:08] >> Motion made. Second.
[9:10] >> Second.
[9:10] All in favor say I.
[9:13] >> I.
[9:13] >> Any opposed? Motion passed.
[9:19] Need a motion for the funds and
[9:20] appropriation report for February
[9:23] 26th.
[9:24] >> I'll make that motion.
[9:25] >> Motion made.
[9:27] >> I'll second.
[9:28] >> Second.
[9:29] >> I'll second.
[9:30] >> All in favor say I.
[9:31] >> I.
[9:32] >> Any opposed?
[9:34] Motion passed.
[9:38] Uh, correspondence.
[9:40] >> Okay, um Council will notice that I gave
[9:43] you all a copy of the agenda for my IIMC
[9:46] conference that I attended last week.
[9:49] IIMC advised clerk treasurers to give
[9:52] Council
[9:53] a detailed report about our classes
[9:57] >> [clears throat]
[9:57] >> uh because of issues and not in this
[9:59] town but in other areas in the state.
[10:02] Uh
[10:03] So, if you did read through then you'll
[10:05] notice I had a very busy schedule. I had
[10:07] class on Sunday for 2 and 1/2 hours. I
[10:11] was in class all day on Monday until
[10:14] from 8:00 a.m. to 5:30.
[10:16] 8:00 a.m. to 6:30 Tuesday, 8:00 a.m. to
[10:18] 5:30 Wednesday. And then the classes
[10:21] ended Thursday afternoon. So, it was a
[10:23] very exhausting week, but I also learned
[10:26] quite a bit. And these classes do help
[10:29] me
[10:30] learn how to serve the town more
[10:31] efficiently and how to run the office
[10:34] more efficiently.
[10:35] >> May I say something on that? I did read
[10:37] that and I know it's quite a bit, but
[10:40] it's very informative and I think all
[10:42] Council should read it to see what
[10:45] schooling she is getting schooled for.
[10:48] And it it is very informative.
[10:51] >> So, I since I have my
[10:53] IIMC certification
[10:56] uh and I have enough credits right now
[10:58] to get my certified municipal clerk
[11:00] certification, but the International
[11:04] Institute of Municipal Clerks requires
[11:06] you to be a member for 2 years.
[11:08] So, I just have to wait until the fall,
[11:11] which will be my 2 years and I can get
[11:12] my CMC and then I can work on my Master
[11:15] Municipal Clerk certification after
[11:17] that.
[11:19] Uh so, these these classes are very
[11:22] helpful.
[11:23] And uh the next item of business is uh
[11:27] after speaking with the Town Council and
[11:30] reviewing
[11:32] uh
[11:33] the documents from First Financial, uh
[11:36] it is they can better serve us as a town
[11:39] and the water department.
[11:42] I am asking at this time that the town
[11:45] council approve
[11:48] the town of New Chicago and New Chicago
[11:50] Water Works
[11:52] to change banks and to bank with First
[11:56] Financial and to leave Centier.
[11:58] >> I'll make that motion to approve
[12:01] switching over to First Financial.
[12:02] >> Do we have a second?
[12:03] >> I'll second.
[12:05] >> Motion made. All in favor?
[12:06] >> Aye.
[12:07] >> Any opposed? Motion carried.
[12:09] >> And then I do have one more thing that
[12:11] was not on the correspondence and that
[12:14] is because
[12:15] it just happened yesterday and today,
[12:17] but as you all know, I have been working
[12:20] with Sunder Dalton per State Board of
[12:22] Accounts request for the previous bank
[12:25] wrecks in previous years
[12:27] going back to 2019.
[12:29] I was with Andrew from Sunder Dalton all
[12:31] day yesterday until 5:00 p.m.
[12:34] going through several documents and
[12:37] transactions
[12:38] back to 2019.
[12:40] And I was on the phone with them today
[12:43] for 2 and 1/2 hours before this meeting.
[12:45] So, we are at the point where
[12:49] I can
[12:50] finish the bank wrecks in one day for
[12:52] 2025, which will probably be one day
[12:55] next week now. We can move forward with
[12:57] that.
[12:59] Uh and everything that State Board of
[13:01] Accounts has asked for uh from 2019
[13:06] to 2023,
[13:08] 20 has been fixed.
[13:10] >> Okay.
[13:11] >> Good job.
[13:12] >> Thank you. It's been a lot.
[13:14] >> [laughter]
[13:17] » And that's all I have.
[13:21] » Ordinance.
[13:24] 2026-05,
[13:26] an ordinance adopting Indiana code
[13:29] 9-24-19-1
[13:32] as a town ordinance violation and
[13:35] prescribing penalties.
[13:37] The town council of the town of New
[13:38] Chicago, Indiana has the authority to
[13:41] adopt ordinances concerning traffic and
[13:43] motor vehicles within the town limits.
[13:46] And whereas the Indiana General Assembly
[13:48] has classified the offense of driving
[13:50] while suspended as an infraction under
[13:52] state law. And whereas it is in the best
[13:55] interest of the public health, safety,
[13:57] and welfare of the residents of the town
[13:59] of New Chicago to adopt and enforce this
[14:02] prohibition locally.
[14:04] Now therefore be it ordained by the town
[14:06] council of the town of New Chicago,
[14:08] Indiana as follows section 1 adoption of
[14:11] state statute.
[14:14] The provisions of Indiana code 9-24-19-1
[14:18] as amended which govern the offense of
[14:20] driving while suspended are hereby
[14:23] adopted and incorporated by reference as
[14:25] an incorporation violation of the town
[14:27] of New Chicago. Any person who violates
[14:30] the provisions of Indiana code 9-24-19-1
[14:35] as amended within the corporate limits
[14:37] of the town of New Chicago commits an
[14:39] ordinance violation.
[14:41] Section 2 penalty. Any person found to
[14:44] have violated this ordinance shall be
[14:46] subject to a civil fine of $100 and 0
[14:49] cents plus any applicable cost. Each day
[14:52] a violation continues shall constitute a
[14:55] separate offense. Section 3
[14:57] severability. If any section, paragraph,
[15:00] clause, or provision of this ordinance
[15:01] shall be declared invalid or
[15:02] unconstitutional by a court of competent
[15:05] jurisdiction such invalidity I cannot say that. Sorry.
[15:11] Shall not affect the validity of the
[15:13] remaining sections, paragraphs, clauses,
[15:15] or provisions of this ordinance.
[15:18] Section 4 repealer.
[15:20] All ordinances or parts of the ordinance
[15:22] in conflict with the provisions of the
[15:24] ordinance
[15:26] are hereby
[15:30] All ordinances or parts of the ordinance
[15:32] in conflict with the provisions of this
[15:34] ordinance are hereby repealed to the
[15:36] extent of such conflict.
[15:39] This is the first reading of this
[15:41] ordinance. We do have to have three
[15:43] hearings for this. The third hearing it
[15:45] will be passed.
[15:46] >> Tammy,
[15:47] you said 26-05
[15:50] is 26
[15:51] >> 06, I'm sorry.
[15:53] >> So, okay.
[15:54] >> This is 2026-06 and this is the first
[15:57] reading.
[15:58] >> Okay.
[15:59] >> This was advertised in the newspaper.
[16:01] This will be advertised again before the
[16:03] next meeting.
[16:05] This ordinance shall be in full force
[16:06] and effect from and after its passage by
[16:08] the town council, approval by the town
[16:10] executive, and publication as required
[16:12] by law.
[16:17] » So, the third reading will be in May. It
[16:19] will be
[16:20] >> Mhm.
[16:20] >> Okay.
[16:21] >> Unless you guys want to set up a special
[16:23] meeting.
[16:26] Okay. This is the first reading of
[16:28] ordinance 2026-07.
[16:30] This ordinance was also advertised in
[16:33] the paper and will be advertised again
[16:36] before the next reading.
[16:38] An ordinance amending the municipal code
[16:40] of the town of New Chicago, Indiana
[16:42] regarding the operation of vehicles with
[16:44] expired license plates and establishing
[16:46] penalties therefore.
[16:48] Whereas the town of New Chicago whereas
[16:50] the town council of the town of New
[16:52] Chicago, Indiana is the legislative body
[16:55] for the town of New Chicago. And whereas
[16:57] the town council finds it necessary for
[16:59] the safety and welfare of its citizens
[17:02] to ensure all motor vehicles operated
[17:04] within the town's jurisdiction are
[17:06] properly registered in accordance with
[17:08] Indiana law.
[17:10] And whereas Indiana code 9-18
[17:15] 1-11-2
[17:17] prohibits the operation of a vehicle
[17:19] with expired license plates. Now,
[17:22] therefore, be it ordained by the Town
[17:23] Council of the Town of New Chicago,
[17:25] Indiana.
[17:26] Prohibition
[17:28] of expired license plates. A person who
[17:30] owns or operates a vehicle may not
[17:32] operate or permit the operation of the
[17:34] vehicle upon the public streets, alleys,
[17:37] or right-of-way within the corporate
[17:39] limits of the Town of New Chicago
[17:42] that is required to be registered under
[17:44] Indiana law and has an expired license
[17:46] plate or fails to display a current and
[17:48] valid registration sticker. Section 2,
[17:51] violation and enforcement. Any person
[17:54] found to be in violation of Section 1 of
[17:56] this ordinance shall be deemed to have a
[17:59] committed a municipal ordinance
[18:00] violation. This ordinance shall be
[18:03] enforced by the New Chicago Police
[18:04] Department. Section 3, penalty. A person
[18:08] who violates any provision of this
[18:10] ordinance shall be subject to a fine of
[18:12] $100 for each occurrence. Each day such violation continues shall
[18:18] be deemed as separate offenses.
[18:21] Section 4, deposit of fines.
[18:24] All fines collected for violations of
[18:26] this ordinance shall be deposited into
[18:28] the Town of New Chicago General Fund or
[18:30] designated law enforcement fund to
[18:33] support municipal operations and public
[18:35] safety.
[18:37] Section 5, severability. If any part of
[18:40] this ordinance is held invalid or
[18:42] unconstitutional by a court of competent
[18:44] jurisdiction, such decision shall not
[18:47] affect the validity of the remaining
[18:49] portions.
[18:50] Section [clears throat] 6, effective
[18:51] date. This ordinance shall be in full
[18:53] force and effect from and after its
[18:55] passage, approval by the Town Council,
[18:57] and publication as required by Indiana
[18:59] Code 36-
[19:02] 3-4-14.
[19:06] » Um I have a question on this, Tammy.
[19:09] Uh Um, this um the new fines, where are
[19:13] they paid in the town hall or in the
[19:14] county?
[19:15] >> Lloyd, with the ordinance um
[19:17] >> So, they get paid when they
[19:19] Lloyd
[19:20] >> When they go to court
[19:23] And the thing about it is if you don't
[19:25] come down and pay it, then it goes from
[19:27] 100 to
[19:29] 130 to
[19:30] >> Yeah, but it just should be paid at the
[19:31] county, not here.
[19:33] But then it it it reverts back into our
[19:35] general fund.
[19:36] >> Yes.
[19:36] >> Okay.
[19:37] >> I would like it though to give these
[19:38] people a chance to
[19:40] pay the $100 and not have the court
[19:43] costs
[19:44] um
[19:45] your permission just to be able to pay
[19:48] it you know to directly to
[19:49] >> Ah.
[19:50] >> the court
[19:50] >> I'm I'm I'm opposed to that, Lloyd, and
[19:53] you know why? Because we had problems
[19:55] before with that. That's why everything
[19:57] went to county and I think it should
[19:59] stay there.
[20:00] >> It just costs people $140
[20:02] 40 more dollars.
[20:02] >> Well, you know, it
[20:04] >> And then the judge will throw it out.
[20:06] >> Yeah, whatever.
[20:07] >> But no, not at
[20:10] >> In some cases, maybe.
[20:12] >> But you know
[20:13] >> But uh
[20:15] But yeah, I says, you know, I says, I'm
[20:17] glad it's you know, it's being paid at
[20:19] the county, not here, because we just
[20:21] talked about this before.
[20:22] Big time. And it cost us down quite a
[20:24] bit of money.
[20:27] Okay, and then 20 Ordinance 2026-08,
[20:30] this is an introduction to this
[20:32] ordinance. This ordinance will be
[20:34] advertised before the next meeting
[20:36] before it is adopted.
[20:38] Senator Dalton sent this to me last
[20:40] minute.
[20:43] So, the introduction is an ordinance of
[20:45] the town of New Chicago, Lake County,
[20:47] Indiana establishing a processing fee
[20:50] for credit card, debit card, and
[20:52] electronic payments and to create the
[20:54] payment processing fund.
[20:57] Would you like me to read the whole
[20:58] ordinance?
[21:00] >> Unless
[21:01] it
[21:03] Does it have a fee for it to whatever?
[21:05] >> We've already been charging the fee.
[21:07] Nobody
[21:07] >> been charging this. It's going to be
[21:09] retro
[21:11] >> Uh
[21:13] So
[21:14] They told me I just I had to introduce
[21:16] it.
[21:17] Uh tonight and then I have to advertise
[21:20] it after the meeting tonight and then in
[21:23] April the town council can pass it.
[21:26] Yes. [clears throat]
[21:26] >> This is just a reading and introduction.
[21:28] >> Mhm, yes.
[21:30] >> Just read it by title.
[21:32] >> Okay, so I I did just read the title, so
[21:35] Okay.
[21:37] And that's all I have for ordinances.
[21:47] » Hello town council, I am I am the police
[21:49] tonight.
[21:50] >> [laughter]
[21:50] >> I am the police and I am the police
[21:52] commission, all in one.
[21:55] So Earl cannot be here tonight, so he's
[21:56] asked me to read the highlights from the
[21:58] report of our last meeting. Um
[22:02] Enforcement activity in the month of
[22:04] February, officer issued a total of 276
[22:07] citations, broken down as 149 local
[22:11] ordinance, 60 state infraction, 26
[22:14] misdemeanor and 30 written warnings.
[22:18] Officers towed 65 vehicles.
[22:24] I'm giving you the CliffNotes version.
[22:26] Uh officers made a total of 46 custodial
[22:29] and non-custodial arrests.
[22:33] In the course of these arrests, they
[22:35] also confiscated 10 g of crack cocaine
[22:38] and approximately 50 g of marijuana.
[22:42] In addition, officers made several
[22:43] firearms related arrests, including four
[22:46] individuals identified as serious
[22:48] violent felons in possession of
[22:50] firearms. These cases represent a
[22:52] significant public safety intervention
[22:54] and align with our continued efforts to
[22:55] disrupt the movement and sale of illegal
[22:57] narcotics and unlawful weapons within
[22:59] our town.
[23:01] Uh
[23:03] Ordinance enforcement and property
[23:04] compliance.
[23:06] Uh concerns have been raised about 65
[23:08] McKinley and 411 Washington.
[23:12] Uh multiple accumulation of trash
[23:14] citations were issued and several
[23:16] illegally parked vehicles were
[23:17] impounded. Both properties have
[23:19] demonstrated measurable improvement in
[23:21] yard condition and overall compliance.
[23:24] Uh fleet status on vehicles, car number
[23:26] six has been out of service for
[23:28] approximately 1 month due to engine
[23:30] issues and now reportedly has been
[23:32] repaired and is back in circulation. Car
[23:34] number one had to be returned to the
[23:37] shop for a water pump pump replacement.
[23:40] And I believe it is back in circulation
[23:42] also.
[23:43] Uh
[23:44] We've upgraded the Wi-Fi units they
[23:47] carry in the cars. It allows them to
[23:50] connect to the internet and do their
[23:52] business. Those were That was done at no
[23:54] cost to the town or the police
[23:55] department. He just got them to upgrade
[23:57] the cameras.
[23:59] Uh we're investigating a new evidence
[24:01] management system
[24:03] and we're just going to kind of go
[24:05] through and take a look at that and then
[24:06] once they've ascertained whether they
[24:07] want to use that, then they'll move
[24:09] forward in some way or another after
[24:10] they've gone through that.
[24:12] Um
[24:14] the Flock cameras
[24:17] They've been You might have noticed that
[24:18] some of the Flock cameras have been
[24:19] moved and we've added some.
[24:23] Uh they've moved the cameras so that
[24:26] they catch people
[24:28] with violating license plates
[24:31] more towards the edge of town so that if
[24:34] the police are circulating in the middle
[24:35] of town, they they have more time to get
[24:37] to them
[24:38] before they leave the the town region.
[24:41] So, that's why those cameras were
[24:43] changed and they added one.
[24:45] Uh
[24:47] Trying to see where it is.
[24:49] Um
[24:50] Liverpool and DeKalb. No.
[24:54] One One them the the trailer park is
[24:56] covering the cost of them. So, none of
[24:58] this really is additional cost to the
[24:59] town.
[25:01] Uh
[25:04] Operations summary, no cap.
[25:10] That was it. Okay, I have a question
[25:12] for you. Ask me a question.
[25:15] » What did you say the custodian arrest?
[25:17] What is that?
[25:18] >> Custody arrest.
[25:20] >> What?
[25:20] >> Meaning they take them into custody or
[25:22] they take them to the police
[25:22] >> thought you said custodian.
[25:24] >> No, I
[25:25] >> No, we're not we're not arresting
[25:26] custodians in particular. That would be
[25:28] profiling and we do not profile here.
[25:31] >> [laughter]
[25:31] >> But I didn't know what you what you
[25:34] >> I It's just what it says on the paper.
[25:36] Custodial arrests where they're taking
[25:39] people into custody.
[25:40] >> Okay.
[25:43] » Fire
[25:47] Good evening.
[25:49] Um
[25:50] as of today for the year we've had 60
[25:54] calls for emergency service.
[25:58] Um
[26:00] I have three new firemen on the uh on the
[26:05] department.
[26:07] Uh they all three have their required
[26:10] state certifications
[26:12] to be on the department.
[26:14] So, the only thing they had to do is go
[26:17] through a 24-hour
[26:19] um refresher class
[26:23] with our our equipment, how we do how we
[26:25] operate, how we do things and everything
[26:27] else like that. So,
[26:29] um
[26:31] We have a recruitment drive going on
[26:33] right now trying to recruit other
[26:35] firemen.
[26:37] Um
[26:41] And with this uh last few months with
[26:43] this weather being the way it has,
[26:45] whether it be freezing cold, snow, and
[26:47] whatever, I I think the New Chicago
[26:50] firemen for answering these calls in
[26:52] this dog on in
[26:53] weather. I mean, it was it was pretty
[26:56] tough at times, but
[26:58] we had suffered through it. So,
[27:00] uh
[27:01] once again, thank the council for your
[27:03] support. And uh that's all I have.
[27:06] Thank you. You're welcome.
[27:08] >> Town manager?
[27:09] >> Um we have an election coming up May
[27:12] 5th. Joe, I need the fire department.
[27:14] >> For what?
[27:16] >> An election coming up May 5th.
[27:19] I need the fire department.
[27:22] So,
[27:22] >> Where are we going to put the
[27:24] truck?
[27:24] >> Well, I guess we're going to try to get
[27:26] the doors open on the old town hall and
[27:28] put them in there.
[27:31] So, anybody can
[27:34] help uh I
[27:37] >> I got I got a question for you real
[27:39] quick.
[27:40] When when is the
[27:41] Or maybe it'll come up under the park.
[27:44] I want to know when the uh
[27:45] >> Easter egg hunt is.
[27:46] >> taking the Easter bunny down to the park
[27:48] and whatever that that
[27:49] >> That that'll come up under the parks.
[27:52] >> [laughter]
[27:52] >> All right.
[27:53] >> Okay. So, we have a meeting with um
[27:57] May 20th. It's not an official meeting.
[28:00] The bids are coming in hopefully for the
[28:02] building on the 20th um between 1:00 and
[28:05] 1:30. So, and then we got something
[28:09] else.
[28:10] >> 30th.
[28:11] >> The 30th, we have our software.
[28:14] So, to try to teach us how to use that.
[28:19] >> I don't know.
[28:20] >> 10:30 12:00
[28:22] >> I don't remember.
[28:23] >> Chad wanted to have the meeting when you
[28:25] sent them down by me. He wanted to have
[28:26] the meeting down there, but he needs
[28:29] internet and all that other stuff in
[28:32] the bunker, which is the public works
[28:34] building,
[28:35] is sporadic at best with internet. So,
[28:40] it's going to be have to
[28:42] be at the school. Were you there? And
[28:45] [clears throat]
[28:45] >> But we need you there.
[28:47] Obviously you don't.
[28:50] And
[28:52] I mean that's just what it is.
[28:53] >> have to come afterwards and talk to you.
[28:55] >> He said he said he said he anything
[28:58] that needs to be discussed as far as
[29:01] that me and him talk
[29:02] about all that and I told him exactly
[29:05] what I just said right now that
[29:08] put you in the loop and anything that he
[29:10] needs to deal with me with as far as
[29:13] meters, with district storage of
[29:16] equipment or anything else like that me
[29:19] and him will work together with.
[29:20] >> So Diane's supposed to be coming in,
[29:22] knock on wood Jesse's going to be okay,
[29:25] to do the software so to see how we're
[29:28] going to upgrade it. So it's it's going
[29:32] to be a mess for a while.
[29:34] So but anyway that's what's going on. So
[29:37] if you want to come in and learn how to
[29:38] do the software you guys are more than
[29:40] welcome to.
[29:42] So
[29:42] >> Joe, you going to be there with the
[29:43] software?
[29:44] >> Which software is it?
[29:44] >> So I need permission to use the fire
[29:47] station for election.
[29:48] >> Outside of my realm Jimmy.
[29:50] >> Okay.
[29:53] » [laughter]
[29:54] >> What's the software for?
[29:56] >> Radio reads.
[29:58] >> For the radio for the radio reads. Okay.
[30:01] >> I need a motion to allow me to use the
[30:03] fire station for election day.
[30:05] >> I'll make that motion.
[30:07] >> Motion made need a second.
[30:09] >> [snorts]
[30:09] >> I'll second.
[30:11] >> All in favor say I.
[30:12] >> I.
[30:13] >> Any opposed?
[30:15] >> I need a clean
[30:17] >> [laughter]
[30:19] >> May 5th, Cinco de Mayo.
[30:21] >> Tuesday May
[30:24] >> Um that's all I have right now.
[30:29] » Park board thanks sir.
[30:31] >> All right park board
[30:33] I don't know if anybody drove past
[30:34] Clunette's park today but you should
[30:36] notice a large amount of mulch
[30:38] that was delivered today.
[30:40] Um so we are moving forward with these
[30:44] uh spending of the CDBG grant that we
[30:45] got uh
[30:47] a couple years ago now.
[30:49] Um,
[30:50] part of that being the mulch, uh which
[30:52] was delivered today. They're going to
[30:53] finish that tomorrow.
[30:55] Um, they're going to be starting the
[30:57] installation of some of the playground
[30:59] equipment that we ordered uh later was
[31:01] it later this week, Tony?
[31:02] >> Later this week, if the weather does
[31:04] what it's supposed to do, they'll be
[31:05] doing it later this week.
[31:07] >> Um,
[31:08] and then uh we do have
[31:12] I would say I I have stuff going on
[31:14] pretty much every weekend right now. So,
[31:16] this weekend here at Ross the Boss we do
[31:19] have the art, craft, and authors fair
[31:22] that's being put on by the parks
[31:23] department.
[31:25] Uh that is March 21st from 10:00 to
[31:27] 4:00.
[31:29] Uh
[31:30] March 28th is when we're doing the park
[31:33] clean up
[31:34] over at Twin Oaks Park to get it ready
[31:36] for
[31:38] uh the Easter egg hunt.
[31:40] And then the Easter egg hunt will be
[31:42] April 4th
[31:44] uh
[31:44] at 10:00 a.m.
[31:46] Joe, please do not blow the horn before
[31:49] 10:00 a.m. and try and get me killed
[31:50] this year like you did last year.
[31:53] >> [laughter]
[31:54] >> Standing in the middle of pack of
[31:55] piranhas when you blew that horn last
[31:57] year.
[31:59] >> [laughter]
[32:00] >> Um, so, what uh
[32:03] what time you guys are going to bring
[32:04] the Easter bunnies out? About 9:00 or
[32:07] something like that?
[32:08] So, people can get pictures
[32:10] Yeah.
[32:11] >> She'll be there at 9:00.
[32:13] >> Okay.
[32:15] Um,
[32:17] and that is pretty much it for the parks
[32:20] board. Uh we didn't didn't have an
[32:22] official meeting this month. The uh Ross
[32:24] the Boss was used, so
[32:26] we had to postpone our meeting for next
[32:28] month.
[32:30] Um,
[32:31] which I do I did talk with
[32:34] uh Fred Williams. I'm going to give him
[32:37] the list of all of our meeting dates
[32:39] again
[32:40] because they never got put into their
[32:42] calendar, which is why
[32:45] the
[32:46] uh this
[32:47] the hall got double-booked the night of
[32:50] our Parks Board meeting. So,
[32:52] I am going to give him a list of
[32:55] you know, I'm just I'm still going to I
[32:56] know we may not need this room for the
[32:58] full year still, but I'm still going to
[33:00] give him, you know, through December.
[33:03] Just
[33:04] so we're covered.
[33:06] >> Yeah.
[33:07] >> So,
[33:08] um outside of that, that's all I have
[33:10] for Parks Board.
[33:13] >> Planning Commission um
[33:16] for Planning Commission tonight, we did
[33:17] have
[33:18] Mr. There he is over here, Mr. Gula.
[33:21] Uh we did approve him for building two
[33:24] duplexes at 129 McKinley.
[33:28] Um
[33:29] John went through the uh
[33:32] ordinances and
[33:34] we did find that in the ordinances, the
[33:37] maximum size you can have is a duplex.
[33:40] So,
[33:41] he is building two duplexes there, two
[33:44] separate units.
[33:47] Um
[33:48] he does have enough space. Um
[33:51] he did provide us the plan and showed us
[33:53] the plans and everything, showed us
[33:54] John.
[33:55] Uh
[33:57] he does have enough space to put in the
[33:58] four septic tanks that would be
[33:59] required.
[34:01] Um
[34:03] so, with John's guidance and, you know,
[34:07] uh confirm confirming with the lawyer
[34:09] that everything met ordinance standards,
[34:12] uh
[34:13] the Planning Commission did approve him
[34:16] to build. So, we're seeking the
[34:18] council's approval to
[34:21] uh go ahead and
[34:23] >> We We need a motion
[34:25] to approve this.
[34:26] We need a motion to approve for him to
[34:28] build
[34:29] the building. Duplex, did you say that?
[34:32] >> the building two buildings
[34:33] >> He's building two buildings, that's
[34:34] right.
[34:35] Oh.
[34:36] Yeah, and then
[34:37] he didn't speak to Robert on the MS 4
[34:40] side of things and also water
[34:42] put in four separate pits, water meter
[34:45] pits.
[34:46] And make sure
[34:48] Yeah, it'll be
[34:50] One building will have two units, the
[34:52] other building will have two units.
[34:54] And MS
[34:54] >> [clears throat]
[34:54] >> 4 separate connections we have. Yeah.
[34:58] They they complied with
[35:00] according to what we wanted them to
[35:02] He started and he brought in some nice
[35:05] set of plans showing exactly how this
[35:07] was going to happen.
[35:09] So, we need a motion to approve that.
[35:11] >> I'll make that motion.
[35:12] >> Motion made. Second?
[35:14] >> I'll second.
[35:15] >> Second. All in favor say aye.
[35:17] >> Aye.
[35:17] >> Any opposed? Motion
[35:21] >> Good job, Skula.
[35:22] >> Thank you, sir.
[35:24] >> And the second person we had on the
[35:26] agenda for tonight
[35:28] was Mr. Patel from Southern Elephants.
[35:31] They were looking to open a laundromat.
[35:34] They did not bring any information with
[35:36] them, so we did not approve at this
[35:38] time.
[35:40] Uh and
[35:41] >> Their apartment they got rented out to
[35:43] >> No,
[35:44] the building that the other part of the
[35:46] building that they own that they rent out the I think it was
[35:50] like
[35:50] >> In the back of that in the in the back?
[35:53] >> Yeah, the one that's pink right now.
[35:55] >> Yeah.
[35:56] the one that's painted
[35:57] >> There's a portion in the back of that.
[35:59] >> Mhm.
[36:00] >> Well, and that's that's the thing is
[36:01] we're not going to approve that.
[36:02] >> There's not enough for something like
[36:04] that.
[36:04] >> Well, and like I said, they didn't bring
[36:06] plans, they didn't bring anything.
[36:10] So,
[36:11] Yeah, well, we told them
[36:13] they need to they need to have plans
[36:16] created by an architect or engineer
[36:18] because this isn't like a house where
[36:19] you're just going to hook up, you know,
[36:21] a little gas line and a little water
[36:23] line for the washer. This is
[36:26] you
[36:26] >> know, that's going to be a lot of water,
[36:28] a lot of gas, a lot of electric.
[36:30] And we requested that once they do have
[36:33] those drawings
[36:35] to give us, you know, a couple weeks of
[36:37] notice at least.
[36:39] Um so that we can make sure that Lou is
[36:42] at our planning commission meeting,
[36:44] Robert is there
[36:46] um for water, you know, Lou's there for
[36:48] electric, John is there for building.
[36:51] You know, we want
[36:52] >> Everything that needs to
[36:53] >> Everyone is there. But, you know, that
[36:56] way Lou can speak to it as far as, you
[36:58] know, is that the right electric
[37:02] paneling, you know, is that the right
[37:04] wiring that is shown on the plans. So.
[37:08] >> Okay.
[37:10] >> But, that was it for planning commission
[37:12] and then
[37:13] I'll just have one other thing under
[37:15] other business later on. So.
[37:17] >> Okay.
[37:17] >> Sewer.
[37:21] >> Thank you. Let me give you the sewer.
[37:23] >> I thought we started with water.
[37:25] See what I know. How many of you
[37:27] All right, sewer.
[37:29] >> I'm going down the list.
[37:30] >> I said
[37:31] » [clears throat]
[37:31] >> I spoke to Mickey Anderson today. Bypass
[37:34] system for lift stations have been
[37:36] tentatively scheduled for next week,
[37:38] weather permitting,
[37:40] for installation.
[37:43] And the lift station on Van Buren
[37:46] was out due to the power outage, but the
[37:51] lift station on Harrison compensated for
[37:54] it and kept all levels
[37:57] at a safe
[37:58] level, so there was no raw sewage or
[38:00] anything spilling out. And I checked it
[38:02] numerous times during the day and
[38:04] numerous emergency calls that were
[38:08] addressed.
[38:09] And
[38:11] everything worked out fine. That's why
[38:13] we're putting this bypass system in, so
[38:16] as power outages come, we can directly
[38:18] force pump it down the line.
[38:30] Roadways as quickly as possible and to
[38:32] keep all traffic flowing.
[38:34] I would also like to thank
[38:36] the Hobart Streets Department
[38:39] as well as Lake Station for their help
[38:41] in the use of their four-ways and their
[38:44] stop signs that they helped you let us
[38:46] use and put out.
[38:48] I got people.
[38:50] So,
[38:52] I just want to
[38:53] >> Um
[38:53] >> Yes.
[38:54] >> We need to order some more stop signs
[38:58] and so we don't have to keep borrowing.
[39:01] >> Correct.
[39:02] >> Yeah, the guys the guys can make them.
[39:05] Maybe we order the signs, they can make
[39:07] the stands.
[39:07] >> Right. Right. But we have to get some
[39:09] lumber I'm going to see if we have any
[39:11] lumber over in the pole barn where we
[39:13] can
[39:13] >> there's there's there's all that lumber
[39:15] down in the old building
[39:17] from in the in the basement in the
[39:19] storage room.
[39:21] >> On the shelves?
[39:22] >> Yeah.
[39:23] >> That's That is true.
[39:24] >> There's a lot there.
[39:25] >> I don't I don't want to get
[39:27] shot with a paintball gun or something
[39:29] like that if I go in there for training.
[39:31] So,
[39:31] >> nailed and maybe too hard to get out.
[39:34] >> Don't go at midnight.
[39:35] >> Yeah, you know, I don't want to get You
[39:36] might be training that day and I don't
[39:38] want to get shot with a paintball. So,
[39:42] you know, I'm not the most
[39:44] liked guy around here.
[39:46] >> [laughter]
[39:48] » Robert, I think that is nailed down
[39:50] there.
[39:51] >> Right.
[39:52] >> sure and I think it's just going to be
[39:53] >> I mean, that's a That's a great idea to
[39:56] recycle that lumber and reuse it and
[39:58] that'll save the town money. I have no
[40:00] problem with that. None. I
[40:02] >> Those are spikes they've got in those.
[40:04] >> The only thing we'll need that we can't
[40:06] make is
[40:08] the stop signs. We will have to order at
[40:11] least four. We need three of them. We
[40:13] have one.
[40:14] But
[40:15] >> Then you get what you
[40:16] >> Me and the town manager spoke and we
[40:18] could get away with making one for the
[40:20] time being because I mean the odds of
[40:25] all three of them going out which just
[40:27] happened. I don't know.
[40:29] Kind of
[40:30] you know, they're kind of it's kind of
[40:31] rare that it does happen. Two would be
[40:34] sufficient and if need be we might
[40:37] [clears throat] even have some old stop
[40:38] signs
[40:40] in the pole barn. I haven't really I've
[40:42] been kind of busy the last couple of
[40:43] weeks, okay? [laughter] So
[40:46] it's just you know, I got to
[40:48] get it but they will get done and it
[40:51] will be dressed before Josh gets his
[40:52] data center up.
[40:54] >> Thank [clears throat] you. Sanitation.
[40:59] You got anything for garbage?
[41:05] » Uh sewers, streets.
[41:08] Sanitation.
[41:10] >> That's garbage. Now water
[41:12] >> Sanitation.
[41:13] >> No, because water the
[41:15] >> Yeah.
[41:16] >> Okay. I didn't
[41:18] like to pass these out and I just want
[41:21] to
[41:22] please share these please cuz I didn't
[41:24] have enough copies. I'm sorry.
[41:35] » Sure. Yes. Absolutely.
[41:43] » There you go.
[41:45] And share with you already know what
[41:47] this is.
[41:49] I'd just like to say that there was a
[41:52] This is an ordinance regarding water.
[41:57] Okay?
[42:00] No one tampers with the water system
[42:03] unless they are approved to tamper with
[42:05] the water system. Turn on, turn off.
[42:07] Okay?
[42:09] This last week I was running around I as
[42:13] she knows
[42:14] the town manager we had to pull a pit
[42:17] because if they did just this
[42:19] and
[42:20] did that.
[42:22] And another pit that gets broke. And
[42:25] when it gets broke contrary to what
[42:27] anyone ever thinks this guy's going to
[42:29] get the call to fix it.
[42:31] All right, when water's rushing up and
[42:33] people are panicking and everything else
[42:34] like that I'm going to get over there
[42:36] and do it. So please do not touch
[42:39] anything with the water without
[42:42] approval.
[42:44] That's all I'm being nice. I'm just
[42:47] going to say it like that. So please
[42:49] don't get in your pits, okay?
[42:52] Poor Joe got the brunt of it last week.
[42:54] >> [laughter]
[42:55] >> Tell anybody that they can get in
[42:57] >> Right, because everyone it doesn't
[42:59] matter
[43:02] who you are, who you work for, what you
[43:04] do with it. Everybody's held to the same
[43:06] standard.
[43:07] Okay, cuz usually when this happens
[43:11] we go over and we pull the meter
[43:14] out of the pit.
[43:16] Okay?
[43:17] But
[43:18] insinuating circumstances didn't allow
[43:21] me to do that. So just please
[43:27] don't do it. That's all I'm saying.
[43:29] Don't do it.
[43:31] All right, thank you.
[43:32] Yes, sir. Now I will
[43:35] All right.
[43:36] A new water main project has been
[43:37] completed.
[43:39] 2-in line was ran servicing the
[43:42] uh
[43:43] Knob Hill area with approximately I
[43:45] think six or seven houses that are fed
[43:48] to it and it's up and running. The only
[43:51] thing left to do
[43:53] is our restoration and that'll be done
[43:56] when weather weather allows by H&G
[43:58] underground.
[44:00] A new hydra was installed on Liverpool
[44:02] and Decatur.
[44:04] In keeping with the commitment of New
[44:06] Chicago standards of continually
[44:08] maintaining and upgrading the water
[44:10] system to operate at peak performance
[44:13] that our customers have grown to expect.
[44:16] Several pairs were being done to water
[44:18] mains and breaks as well as services
[44:22] from unauthorized people tampering with
[44:24] them also last week as I just stated
[44:27] that we had to go out and literally
[44:30] take a whole pit out of the ground. Lake
[44:33] Station had to put a stop order of work
[44:35] order on a house.
[44:36] And then it's just it was a big mess and
[44:41] Please.
[44:42] All right, all meters and lids have been
[44:45] delivered and are on standby for the
[44:48] upcoming installation.
[44:51] They're all over in the building. Chad
[44:53] from Adam Marsh
[44:55] came over, took pictures, looked at
[44:58] everything
[45:00] and
[45:01] everything is ready to go. We've talked
[45:03] about like I said the staging area.
[45:05] They're going to have access
[45:08] to the public works building yard. Not
[45:11] the public works building, the yard to
[45:13] store their trucks because they feel
[45:15] more comfortable with it being in a
[45:17] locked secured fenced area for their
[45:20] equipment and
[45:23] it makes perfect sense for us to help
[45:25] them because they're helping us. So, we
[45:29] already spoke about that and it's
[45:31] pretty much an okay.
[45:34] Uh
[45:35] what else? Uh hmm
[45:38] Uh that's just a bypass system.
[45:41] That's pretty much it. We had a few
[45:42] breaks that we fixed.
[45:45] Two H&G had to come out after we fixed
[45:47] the one. One literally 20 ft away broke
[45:51] and that had to be fixed and all of it
[45:53] was mostly
[45:55] 4-in and 2-in lines.
[45:58] And
[46:00] it's not to the point where that needs
[46:01] to be replaced or anything else like
[46:03] that because this is the first time
[46:04] since I've been here that any of those
[46:07] lines have broke. So, we're still in
[46:10] good working order and like I said, we go out, we try, we flush, we do our
[46:15] best to keep everything operational and
[46:17] people can wake up in the morning and
[46:20] turn their faucet on and expect water to
[46:22] come up out of it.
[46:23] >> What are we going to do about patching
[46:24] them?
[46:26] >> Hole patching?
[46:26] >> No. Let's patching. Where we had the
[46:29] main breaks, are we going to get Chris
[46:32] to do that? Are we going to wait for the
[46:34] >> I I had it on my desk. I'm I apologize
[46:37] for that. I had it out there for the
[46:39] last 3 days. I've been meaning to get it
[46:41] to you. He put in a bid. I forgot what
[46:44] the bid was that you told me that that
[46:46] other individual did.
[46:47] >> all three of them?
[46:48] >> Yes.
[46:49] >> Arthur?
[46:50] >> All three of them.
[46:51] >> And the two on Indiana Street?
[46:52] >> Indiana and the one on
[46:55] Iowa and
[46:57] Arthur.
[46:57] >> Okay.
[46:58] >> He I forgot what you told me what it
[47:00] was, but he gave me a number and then he
[47:02] told me whatever the number was that the
[47:05] other individual with it
[47:07] he would match it to keep
[47:10] >> Okay.
[47:10] >> a good relationship with Mishawaka.
[47:13] >> The reason why he asked, Evan Myers said
[47:16] if they were doing our streets and they
[47:18] were close to it, maybe they'd just
[47:20] swing over there and take care of them.
[47:22] >> Right.
[47:24] >> Um when's that happening?
[47:26] April?
[47:29] >> [clears throat]
[47:29] >> I mean
[47:30] >> They're all filled with number eight and
[47:32] speaking of that, I have to
[47:35] have the town treasurer give me some
[47:36] more number eight. So,
[47:38] >> Okay.
[47:39] >> So,
[47:41] they're all filled with number eight.
[47:42] They're solid. They're not going to
[47:44] damage anything and now that, you know,
[47:46] hopefully knock on wood, the uh snow is
[47:48] gone.
[47:50] It's
[47:51] not going to be We're not going to be
[47:53] plowing there in any way. And the ones
[47:55] are Indiana, we [clears throat]
[47:58] That's Lake stations to deal with.
[48:00] But we do help out with them.
[48:03] >> I'm not mistaken, the the east side of
[48:05] Indiana is ours, right?
[48:07] >> It is. And we tore up the road, so we're
[48:08] going to repair it. That's why we're
[48:09] going to That's why we're fixing both
[48:11] spots. But the one on Iowa and Arthur is
[48:16] off
[48:17] on the apron.
[48:18] >> I mean, somebody has driven on it, but
[48:20] there's
[48:20] >> Exactly. But there's not We keep it
[48:22] filled with And instead of wasting our
[48:24] number eight because I started to get
[48:26] low, and we were using it for brakes,
[48:28] I started using millings in there.
[48:31] Because we have millings, so again, I'm
[48:33] trying to be economically smart with our
[48:36] what we have.
[48:38] So
[48:40] we put millings in there as they get out
[48:42] because as you drive through it, you
[48:43] know, cars take it down the street with
[48:45] them.
[48:46] So we have to, you know, keep it where
[48:48] it's at least level
[48:51] and not creating a hazard.
[48:54] >> And I'd like to say, besides everything
[48:56] that these guys at the public works
[48:58] building do, they're out there every
[49:01] week picking up papers, cleaning the
[49:03] drains, and that's on a weekly basis. So
[49:07] if you see papers, it's because it's
[49:08] blown. It's not because they've not
[49:10] picked them up. They will get picked up.
[49:12] These guys do it every week.
[49:15] They're I mean, it's just a given thing.
[49:17] >> Well, I was going to tell you
[49:18] that it would be counted.
[49:20] >> So they don't sit still.
[49:23] >> Thank you, Robert.
[49:25] You're welcome. Any other questions?
[49:26] >> Um I do have something to add. I wanted
[49:28] to add uh I forgot to tell the council
[49:31] uh CCMG, I received an email from INDOT,
[49:35] and our award should be in the bank
[49:38] tomorrow.
[49:39] >> Yeah.
[49:40] >> Good.
[49:41] >> That's for the roads, the paving?
[49:43] >> Yes.
[49:44] >> Okay.
[49:45] >> I thought you were going to give me a
[49:46] reward.
[49:48] >> [laughter]
[49:49] >> That's all.
[49:50] >> I am. Timmy, let me ask you something.
[49:52] Have you
[49:53] I mean Robert
[49:54] and if you and Timmy with
[49:59] Brian
[50:00] uh
[50:00] >> Yes.
[50:01] >> with our money getting returning our
[50:03] money. Have either one of you heard
[50:04] anything?
[50:05] >> As of I heard from Ryan
[50:08] yesterday, I believe.
[50:09] Uh
[50:10] >> Since I'm not going to be
[50:11] >> the paperwork
[50:13] is done.
[50:15] We're waiting for INDOT
[50:18] to get approval for the funds to be
[50:21] released.
[50:23] Because it's sitting on I forgot his
[50:24] name. It's on my desk over there, but
[50:26] it's already
[50:28] our paperwork is done and sitting on the
[50:31] man's desk and he's sitting
[50:33] all that.
[50:35] for the funding. And we're waiting on
[50:36] the funding to be released so they can
[50:38] start distributing it.
[50:39] >> [cough]
[50:40] >> And what he said [clears throat] they
[50:40] don't send emails to me, they all go to
[50:43] Sue.
[50:43] >> But I think maybe they will send you a
[50:45] check.
[50:46] >> They probably will.
[50:47] >> And if they do, please let us know.
[50:50] Okay.
[50:50] >> I will.
[50:51] >> Cuz I you know I'm watching it and I
[50:52] want to make sure I get that money back.
[50:54] >> It's so dear.
[50:56] >> Huh?
[50:56] Oh no, don't even say that. [laughter]
[50:59] >> But that's still on the desk. To answer
[51:01] your question, the last I know about it
[51:03] on our end as far as the town
[51:06] it's on the desk. It's our paperwork is
[51:08] done.
[51:09] >> Please see it. It is very very nice.
[51:13] We just had Lou over there hooking up
[51:15] the chargers.
[51:16] Your truck.
[51:17] >> With Robert.
[51:18] >> Yeah.
[51:19] >> I wouldn't even like electricity and I
[51:21] became electrician.
[51:22] >> [laughter]
[51:23] >> But you guys need to see the electric
[51:25] truck. It is a
[51:26] >> Well, all you got to do is walk out in
[51:27] the parking lot. It's right out there.
[51:29] >> It is so nice. It is so nice.
[51:30] >> So about storm water.
[51:32] Okay.
[51:35] He's doing storm water.
[51:36] >> Okay. Go ahead.
[51:38] >> Okay. MS4 MS4 updates
[51:41] to the MS4 ordinance are forthcoming in
[51:43] the near future as to keep in compliance
[51:45] with the growing community and item
[51:48] regulations.
[51:50] As always, teams are sent out to clean
[51:53] all storm drains and any debris out in
[51:56] the streets on a daily basis. I had
[51:59] literally I used a whole
[52:02] box of garbage black garbage bags today
[52:06] from going from Tyler all around and
[52:09] everything else cuz when those winds
[52:10] came out
[52:11] >> Yes, it was horrible.
[52:12] >> It was everywhere and
[52:14] >> Garbage was blowing everywhere.
[52:16] >> We just we just try to get them between
[52:18] me and Gabriel going and doing other
[52:21] stuff. So, there's not delaying
[52:25] the ladies upstairs doing their job. We
[52:27] go and do that
[52:29] and I have the other guys out policing
[52:31] the town.
[52:33] So, that way I mean we can main
[52:36] you know, some kind of
[52:39] you know, hold on it because if you let
[52:41] it go it will get out of get after you
[52:43] real quick.
[52:43] >> Well, the garbage men were in Brenda was
[52:46] there and they apologized because it was
[52:48] so windy that day. 60-70 mile an hour
[52:51] winds again.
[52:52] >> I had bags back in the
[52:53] garage and I wasn't paying attention to
[52:55] the wind.
[52:55] >> I didn't set mine out.
[52:57] >> But, they were literally out today like
[52:58] I said, a whole box of them and
[53:02] I had I had three teams out there. I had
[53:04] one guy on one side, one guy on the
[53:06] other side and
[53:08] starting from both ends to back and
[53:11] meeting in the middle.
[53:12] >> Good job. You guys did a good job. Thank
[53:14] you.
[53:14] >> Thank you.
[53:15] >> We have any new business?
[53:18] Liaison reports?
[53:20] >> Nothing.
[53:21] Announcements?
[53:24] None.
[53:25] Any old business come before the
[53:27] council?
[53:27] >> I I do have a couple things for that. Um
[53:31] One, and this is something that I'm
[53:33] going to ask
[53:35] or ask Danny to be put on the agenda for
[53:37] the next month.
[53:38] Um Brenda, you and I kind of spoke about
[53:40] this the other night.
[53:42] Uh
[53:43] we are looking at upgrading the email
[53:45] system for the town.
[53:48] Uh there are a couple of reasons for
[53:50] this. One, better security
[53:53] for the town.
[53:55] Two,
[53:57] uh storage space.
[54:00] >> [snorts]
[54:00] >> Um currently Tammy and
[54:04] uh Chief Mayo are both at about 65% of
[54:07] their storage.
[54:09] Uh for their email. They only have 10 GB
[54:12] of storage.
[54:14] Now, could some of that be freed up?
[54:17] Possibly.
[54:19] But I don't know what record retention
[54:21] is for the clerk-treasurer's office
[54:25] and the police department.
[54:27] So,
[54:29] you know, to be able to make sure that
[54:31] we have enough storage space, you know,
[54:34] for these records,
[54:36] we're going to be looking at upgrading
[54:38] the
[54:39] email system.
[54:41] Um
[54:42] there will be a cost associated with
[54:44] that. I am working with the state, with
[54:47] IOT,
[54:49] uh with actually with their
[54:52] not subcontractor, but with the company
[54:55] that they have their QPA with,
[54:57] uh SHI,
[54:59] uh who's the vendor that we would go
[55:02] through to do this.
[55:04] Um
[55:06] I did have a meeting with them this
[55:07] afternoon. They're supposed to be
[55:09] sending me a quote. So, next month I'll
[55:11] have more of a presentation for you. But it's
[55:16] just something I wanted to let you guys
[55:18] know that it's something that's coming
[55:20] down the pike and something that have to
[55:24] be done at some point.
[55:26] >> Can you use external hard drives, Joe?
[55:30] In the In the
[55:31] So, I don't know what the law is, but if
[55:33] you could download it on external hard
[55:34] drives.
[55:38] » Can I ask something? I know nothing
[55:40] about this kind of stuff but Sue, what
[55:42] is it that we
[55:44] Dorothy implemented for our files?
[55:49] >> What?
[55:52] » Um, she we had
[55:54] >> have that anymore?
[55:55] >> I don't know what she did with it.
[55:57] >> Well, you know it's
[55:57] >> And then we got hacked, remember?
[56:01] UBS drive that
[56:02] >> It's called No, and they take all our
[56:06] files once it's been audited and they
[56:08] come and they get them and they put them
[56:10] on that and
[56:11] >> It was inner It was Opportunity
[56:13] Enterprise that did that.
[56:16] >> Is that something with email if that
[56:19] >> No, they were probably digitizing old
[56:21] paper files.
[56:22] >> They were digitizing
[56:24] claims and payroll.
[56:27] >> Yeah, they were they were taking your
[56:28] paper files and
[56:30] digitizing them.
[56:33] » No.
[56:34] >> Separate thing.
[56:35] >> No.
[56:36] it's not a question.
[56:38] Um, but I'm I'm trying to get this done
[56:41] as cheaply as possible.
[56:44] Right now from what I've found online
[56:48] Um, and I I kind of I parsed it out
[56:51] between
[56:52] police department
[56:54] town and parks.
[56:57] Um, the parks would be paying about
[57:02] roughly 450 a year, I think is what
[57:04] parks would be paying for their portion.
[57:07] Um
[57:09] town was right around 500 a year.
[57:13] Um
[57:15] and then police was substantially higher
[57:17] because they of course had more
[57:20] email addresses. Each officer had their
[57:22] own
[57:23] email address.
[57:27] So,
[57:28] and I I don't honestly don't remember
[57:30] the number right off the top of to say
[57:31] it was around 1200
[57:35] a year. I could be
[57:37] off on that number though.
[57:39] Um
[57:41] So, but what this would actually give us
[57:44] is each from the meeting I had today,
[57:48] each account would have 30 GB
[57:51] of storage, but it's also a pooled
[57:54] storage.
[57:55] So,
[57:57] say, you know,
[58:00] um
[58:01] one of the police officers, you know,
[58:03] one of the reserve officers isn't
[58:05] well, using that much storage space cuz
[58:07] he only works, you know, couple days a
[58:10] month,
[58:11] well, if Tammy needs extra storage
[58:13] space, some of his storage space can go
[58:16] to her. So, it can be
[58:18] >> No, man.
[58:18] >> it can be shared.
[58:19] >> Okay, it can be moved so nobody can get
[58:22] into her stuff.
[58:23] >> Right.
[58:24] Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, no one will be
[58:25] able to get into her stuff. It's just
[58:26] I'm saying that the the space itself,
[58:30] like can be chunked out to her.
[58:32] So,
[58:34] um
[58:34] >> I can't say joy. I know.
[58:35] >> I know.
[58:36] >> [laughter]
[58:37] >> So, there I will like I said, next month
[58:39] I'll have more of a
[58:41] presentation for you once they send me
[58:42] all the details. I just wanted to kind
[58:45] of
[58:46] get that in your guys' mind
[58:48] for now.
[58:49] Um the other thing I have
[58:52] um
[58:54] as you guys all know, I do road
[58:55] construction inspection.
[58:57] >> The what?
[58:57] >> You all know I do road construction
[58:59] inspection. It's my main job.
[59:00] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[59:01] >> And [clears throat] this is my busy
[59:02] season.
[59:03] >> Yeah.
[59:04] >> I'm also going to be working in Argos
[59:06] starting in May.
[59:08] >> You're going I'm sorry.
[59:09] >> Argos.
[59:11] US 31 south of Plymouth.
[59:13] >> Now, is that in Argos?
[59:15] >> Beautiful Argos, Indiana.
[59:17] Um
[59:18] >> I think it is in Argos.
[59:19] >> Yeah.
[59:20] >> All the way to Knox or past Knox?
[59:22] >> Uh
[59:24] it's both.
[59:25] >> Just past
[59:26] >> Past past.
[59:27] >> Yeah, it's past Knox. Knox is on 35.
[59:30] So, I'm going to even further down
[59:32] [clears throat] south.
[59:33] Wow.
[59:34] >> Yeah.
[59:35] So, time Time zone change.
[59:37] >> Also, what?
[59:38] >> Yay.
[59:40] Anyway,
[59:41] um
[59:42] I would like
[59:44] for
[59:45] a volunteer from the council or from
[59:48] somebody,
[59:50] you know, from the town
[59:52] to meet with me
[59:54] so that I can show them how to set up
[59:56] this lovely little system that we use.
[1:00:00] That way, cuz there may be a time where
[1:00:02] I don't make it here
[1:00:05] due to work.
[1:00:06] >> What?
[1:00:06] >> So,
[1:00:08] >> Well,
[1:00:09] I I see somebody.
[1:00:11] >> [laughter]
[1:00:12] >> I I think you just got volunteered,
[1:00:13] Tony.
[1:00:14] >> I I think I got volun-told. Uh yeah.
[1:00:17] >> I didn't say a word.
[1:00:18] >> [laughter]
[1:00:20] >> So, all right. So, yeah. I'll I will
[1:00:23] write up instructions on how to
[1:00:26] set up the Setting it up is easy. So,
[1:00:30] >> You you willing to do that sometime?
[1:00:31] >> We'll figure it out.
[1:00:32] >> I think
[1:00:33] >> So, we did contact
[1:00:35] um
[1:00:36] Mervan's office
[1:00:38] about a upgrade for the technology for
[1:00:41] the police department. The parks put in
[1:00:44] for two grants. One was a no.
[1:00:47] Liz called me. So, anyway, this is for
[1:00:51] 2027,
[1:00:53] but Earl and Golfing got the grant
[1:00:55] together, submitted it to Liz, and Joe
[1:00:59] or Morgan, whoever did the grant for the
[1:01:01] parks. So, um
[1:01:03] the
[1:01:04] we have that. Don't know if we'll get
[1:01:06] any money or not, but you can't get any
[1:01:08] money if you don't do a grant. So,
[1:01:11] anyway, we've got that done. So, we're
[1:01:13] just knocking on wood. Liz did call me
[1:01:16] and asked me for some more information.
[1:01:19] I'm hoping to get something for that
[1:01:20] building over there so it doesn't cost
[1:01:23] you guys a million dollars to do
[1:01:25] upgrades so for technology.
[1:01:28] So.
[1:01:32] » Lloyd Hubbs.
[1:01:33] >> Okay.
[1:01:33] >> Thank you.
[1:01:34] Open forum.
[1:01:36] >> He owns the property at 104 Lincoln and
[1:01:38] is interested in buying the lot next to
[1:01:40] it.
[1:01:41] >> I forgot you. I'm sorry.
[1:01:43] >> Thanks, Sue. I appreciate that.
[1:01:44] >> I'm sorry.
[1:01:46] >> [laughter]
[1:01:46] >> Um
[1:01:46] >> I'm here to remind you.
[1:01:47] >> Thank you.
[1:01:49] So, far um that is the um
[1:01:52] >> Can you go to Connie?
[1:01:54] >> We own it.
[1:01:55] >> No. Oh, we own it?
[1:01:56] >> We own it. We used to make Robert Mowat.
[1:01:59] >> 104 Lincoln.
[1:02:00] >> Yes. It's um
[1:02:02] >> We still do.
[1:02:02] >> On the north side or south?
[1:02:04] >> It's on the north side. It's a big lot
[1:02:06] that's right there.
[1:02:08] We are on We're on Lincoln.
[1:02:10] >> On Lincoln.
[1:02:11] >> Go to Lincoln. Go down from the past the
[1:02:13] town hall to the first stop sign. Don't
[1:02:16] go to Dave's. Turn left. And that lot
[1:02:18] right there on the left hand side.
[1:02:20] >> From the alley to Yeah. Lincoln.
[1:02:22] >> Okay.
[1:02:23] >> So, we How does that work, Lloyd? I
[1:02:26] believe we got to get two appraisals.
[1:02:27] >> Yeah, I think we got to get two.
[1:02:29] >> And I think they just passed a new law
[1:02:31] that we have to do that.
[1:02:33] >> So, we have to have two appraisals?
[1:02:35] >> I don't know.
[1:02:36] >> Well, we're going to look into it
[1:02:38] >> and then see um
[1:02:40] we have no use for it.
[1:02:43] Sharon, this is like one of the things
[1:02:44] that we went with Dorothy to IUN and
[1:02:47] said, "Hey,
[1:02:49] take the property and see if you would
[1:02:51] like to purchase it or take it on and
[1:03:01] » Republicans decided it wasn't a good
[1:03:03] idea.
[1:03:04] >> It wasn't.
[1:03:05] >> So, but anyway, we do own that. We have
[1:03:08] no use for it. We're never going to
[1:03:09] build on that.
[1:03:11] So, Lloyd, can you look into that and
[1:03:13] see if we have to have I I read
[1:03:16] something the law that they just passed
[1:03:19] um um
[1:03:20] about municipal owning properties and to
[1:03:23] get rid of it, but I'm not sure. So.
[1:03:26] >> Uh maybe if you can have that and don't
[1:03:29] wait till the next meeting and then let
[1:03:32] Cindy know ahead of time so they can
[1:03:33] make sure
[1:03:34] >> know what they would have to do.
[1:03:36] >> Yes, she has our information.
[1:03:37] >> Yeah.
[1:03:37] >> Okay, perfect. Thank you.
[1:03:38] >> Sorry.
[1:03:39] >> But in the meantime if it gets spring
[1:03:40] you can cut.
[1:03:41] >> [laughter]
[1:03:43] >> Feel free to cut the grass.
[1:03:45] >> The Is Am I right the last name?
[1:03:47] >> Mine's Collins, his is Kill.
[1:03:49] >> Oh, Kill. Yeah. Cindy's
[1:03:51] >> Cindy's husband.
[1:03:51] >> Yeah.
[1:03:53] All right, Cindy.
[1:04:02] » Oh, you're busy.
[1:04:04] >> Thank you for coming.
[1:04:05] Comments from the board?
[1:04:07] >> I I have one. Sorry, Robert, but are you
[1:04:09] aware of all the potholes on Van Buren?
[1:04:12] >> Do you know we're going to pave that?
[1:04:15] >> There you [laughter] go.
[1:04:15] >> Where Where by What's her name's house?
[1:04:17] Yeah, there's there's potholes there
[1:04:19] that I have to maneuver. I have to drive
[1:04:21] in the middle of the road.
[1:04:22] >> Well, some of those
[1:04:24] are potholes.
[1:04:24] >> And I have them in my in my in in my
[1:04:26] driveway. The big
[1:04:27] >> Well, we can't do nothing about your
[1:04:29] driveway.
[1:04:29] >> No, not my driveway.
[1:04:31] The [laughter] road by my driveway is
[1:04:32] >> Thank you.
[1:04:33] >> where the road by my driveway there's
[1:04:36] >> The ones that are
[1:04:39] holes and not
[1:04:42] uh
[1:04:43] what do you call God, I can't
[1:04:45] layers. Some of them are layers and
[1:04:47] people mistake them for holes. They're
[1:04:48] not holes, they're layers. Cuz when they
[1:04:50] layer them over them
[1:04:52] and
[1:04:53] they patch over them, patch over them, and when they lay it
[1:04:56] they just lay another
[1:04:58] asphalt over the top of that. But if
[1:05:00] there are holes, there are genuine
[1:05:03] holes, you know, I have three people
[1:05:06] that work for Okay, and you know, we
[1:05:09] can't be everywhere at one time and that
[1:05:11] is we have a limited amount of cold
[1:05:14] patch until the plants open.
[1:05:16] >> Mhm.
[1:05:17] >> But
[1:05:18] if there are severe holes over there
[1:05:20] tomorrow morning, I will make a note,
[1:05:22] and I will go look, see,
[1:05:24] and
[1:05:26] >> Can you do the one on Michigan cuz
[1:05:27] there's potholes now.
[1:05:29] >> Which one again?
[1:05:30] >> In front of Don's living room.
[1:05:31] >> Yeah, that's that's the one.
[1:05:32] >> No, we can't display in front of
[1:05:34] Wiggins' house.
[1:05:35] >> That's that's the one.
[1:05:37] >> I just told
[1:05:38] Joe what Joe said the same thing.
[1:05:40] >> Joe, do you know the streets that are
[1:05:42] getting done?
[1:05:44] >> I don't think so.
[1:05:46] >> If there are Like I said, if there's
[1:05:47] holes, I will tomorrow morning when I
[1:05:50] do whatever I got to do,
[1:05:52] I will I mean
[1:05:54] I got a list this big, and like I said,
[1:05:59] I well, they ain't going to patch then
[1:06:00] if if it's ever green.
[1:06:04] >> 24, sorry.
[1:06:05] >> Okay.
[1:06:06] >> Yeah.
[1:06:07] >> No, you said that last month.
[1:06:08] >> Yes, I did.
[1:06:10] >> I I I didn't know.
[1:06:11] >> I actually knew this time.
[1:06:12] >> And also
[1:06:13] >> at
[1:06:14] 11:00
[1:06:15] >> Yeah, same time.
[1:06:16] >> Do you know what they did on
[1:06:18] the bridge over there? They were working
[1:06:20] on that yesterday.
[1:06:21] >> In Lake Station?
[1:06:23] >> Well, yeah, well, yeah.
[1:06:23] >> They're putting a new water line there.
[1:06:25] They're taking the old one down that's
[1:06:27] hanging on the bridge, right? What are
[1:06:29] they doing, Robert? Cuz they're parking
[1:06:31] their trucks in our apartment lot.
[1:06:32] >> Yeah, they are.
[1:06:33] >> It's been going on.
[1:06:34] >> I know.
[1:06:34] >> But why?
[1:06:36] The line that was hanging up longer than
[1:06:39] the same one that we have on Michigan is
[1:06:41] the same concept they have over there.
[1:06:44] They removed the old line because it was
[1:06:46] hanging there, and debris was falling
[1:06:48] into the river, and they didn't want
[1:06:50] item to
[1:06:52] come talk to them.
[1:06:53] >> Okay.
[1:06:54] >> So, it was all They didn't repair it.
[1:06:55] They just took it down. They removed it
[1:06:57] all, and that [clears throat] line is
[1:06:59] now running underneath the river like
[1:07:01] ours over on Route 6.
[1:07:03] >> Okay.
[1:07:05] But they did have the trucks parked over
[1:07:07] the park and I forgot to tell anybody.
[1:07:10] >> [laughter]
[1:07:16] » Yeah.
[1:07:16] >> They had one there.
[1:07:18] >> Yeah.
[1:07:20] But they're gone now. They're done?
[1:07:22] >> They've been gone.
[1:07:23] >> Since when?
[1:07:24] >> Done and gone.
[1:07:26] >> Who called you?
[1:07:26] >> called me
[1:07:30] » Who was it?
[1:07:31] >> Looked it up.
[1:07:35] » The appraisal process is
[1:07:38] First of all, we got to
[1:07:40] uh
[1:07:41] require approval from the town's
[1:07:43] executive, which would be you guys, the
[1:07:44] town.
[1:07:45] Um
[1:07:46] and notice has to be given to
[1:07:49] appraisers.
[1:07:50] >> That's why
[1:07:51] >> And then
[1:07:52] So, it's expensive and getting
[1:07:54] time-consuming, but and here's the thing that we may be able to do
[1:07:59] with.
[1:08:00] If the lot is small and has low value,
[1:08:03] typically less than $15,000,
[1:08:06] or is landlocked, the town may be able
[1:08:08] to negotiate directly with the
[1:08:09] landowners whose property it touches.
[1:08:12] So, I don't know if that's
[1:08:14] >> Well, it's right on the corner and he
[1:08:16] lives next door.
[1:08:17] >> Yeah, I think it touches.
[1:08:19] >> Yeah, I'm sure it does. Yeah. So, but I
[1:08:22] asked them before if they wanted to buy
[1:08:24] it and that's when she had cancer and
[1:08:27] they said they didn't have the money at
[1:08:29] that time. So, now she's passed away and
[1:08:33] he's interested in it. So, where do we get the I mean, who's
[1:08:42] got to pay for the appraiser?
[1:08:48] He's not an appraiser.
[1:08:49] >> He's not an appraiser. He's going to
[1:08:50] tell you the dimensions of it.
[1:08:53] >> Well, you it's You can Google it. Go on
[1:08:55] GIS. Fred can tell you what it is.
[1:08:59] >> But then, I mean, we have to get two
[1:09:00] appraisers and it has to be an open bid
[1:09:03] once we go through that one.
[1:09:05] >> Yeah, no, you're exactly right. Like the
[1:09:07] towns like towns or cities or whatever
[1:09:09] usually have
[1:09:11] like a trust that this deals with it.
[1:09:13] They they all property in this and that
[1:09:15] and everything else on how to sell it,
[1:09:17] how not to sell it. Did I I explained it
[1:09:19] to you when you called me that?
[1:09:21] They
[1:09:23] >> [laughter]
[1:09:23] >> And because I just went through all
[1:09:25] this,
[1:09:26] and
[1:09:27] it's it's not a hard process. Like
[1:09:29] >> You just said it's just you have to
[1:09:32] >> But who's going to pay for the
[1:09:34] appraisals? We're not.
[1:09:36] >> Probably will get it done because we got
[1:09:38] to sell this property. We need an
[1:09:40] appraisal.
[1:09:41] You know, maybe they could pay for it,
[1:09:42] but you don't want them to pay for it
[1:09:44] because
[1:09:44] >> Then they won't buy it.
[1:09:45] >> Yeah, well, then the appraisal will say
[1:09:47] well, that's cheap, but you know,
[1:09:49] whatever.
[1:09:49] >> No, I think it'd be more than that. Like
[1:09:51] you just said I like lots
[1:09:52] [clears throat] around here are probably
[1:09:53] like you said in the neighborhood of
[1:09:55] between 50 and
[1:09:57] >> So
[1:09:57] >> 20, 25,000.
[1:10:02] » When it's that price,
[1:10:05] like 15,000,
[1:10:07] >> I I would say that's below 15,000.
[1:10:10] >> Yeah.
[1:10:10] >> But if if it's 25,000,
[1:10:15] » By me, they are.
[1:10:17] >> You get the appraisals, and then that
[1:10:19] gets thrown out.
[1:10:20] >> So if I if I can get one of my people to
[1:10:23] give me a free appraisal on it,
[1:10:25] >> Well, that you could do that.
[1:10:27] >> You got people?
[1:10:27] >> I got people.
[1:10:28] >> I haven't looked at all this stuff to
[1:10:30] pay for it now.
[1:10:31] But it's just
[1:10:32] You know, and then they have to be done
[1:10:34] before this board can state
[1:10:35] >> When I bought that other lot behind the
[1:10:37] town hall, remember? When Tony called me
[1:10:40] that day and said, "Come down, meet me.
[1:10:42] I'm selling it to you."
[1:10:43] >> Was it like 10,000?
[1:10:45] >> I think we paid 15 for it, didn't we,
[1:10:47] Tim?
[1:10:48] >> I think so.
[1:10:49] >> Yes, 15.
[1:10:52] >> I think That's a big lot.
[1:10:53] >> lot. It's bigger than this one.
[1:10:55] >> Right. Okay. All right. We'll check into
[1:10:58] that void and then
[1:11:00] >> I'll give you the details and I just
[1:11:02] [clears throat] wanted to let you know
[1:11:03] while we were all discussing it.
[1:11:04] >> Yeah.
[1:11:05] I think I read that. That's why I said
[1:11:09] >> Motion to adjourn?
[1:11:11] Need a motion to adjourn?
[1:11:13] >> I'll make the motion.
[1:11:13] >> Motion made.
[1:11:15] >> I'll second.
[1:11:15] >> Second.
[1:11:16] All in favor say "Aye."
[1:11:18] >> Aye.