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All deemed in tonight is Thursday, December 29, I'll call the select board meeting to order. Attendance, a select board member ward is out of town with family. He had that period raised before the meeting was scheduled tonight. Hopefully he's enjoying his time. Everybody else is present, included manager curb and recorded Myers. I stand for the pleasure of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic.

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for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Schedule the next meeting, our next schedule municipal office meeting is going to be Monday,

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January 9th at 7 p.m. Of course, as always, check the municipal calendar for updates.

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Any adjustments to the agenda?

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C&9 will start with public comment, not the public hearing, public comment.

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Is there anybody here that would like to speak from the public on a?

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Into the podium state your name generally keep your comments to three minutes, please. Yes, sir when he's done Libby

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276 Toby Road and

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I have a couple topics tonight

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But I'm only a limit to one now pass out

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Comments on the other one

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This is to do with item 2.2 hour in your agenda tonight and a gloss to board and committee application process

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First of all, Board makeup says no financial gain or support will be provided or expected

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during their tenure.

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In the past, the town has covered some expenses for committees to go to a conference or

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a seminar.

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I think it should be up the discretion of the manager if it's partented to their committee's

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work that that might be some help.

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If we can bring more knowledge to the committee level and to the town level, we should help

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out maybe some stuff like that.

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Under the application section, applications submitted to town manage at least seven calendar

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days prior to the next board meeting.

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Unfortunately, some people might not know there's an opening until they see the agenda

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item.

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I don't believe you guys have put in your agenda route more than seven days in advance.

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So, there's a conflict there that that has to take care because some people don't read

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notices.

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They just, well, I wonder what they're going to talk about this week, so they're going

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on that.

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Right?

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Let us have recommendation.

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Let us have recommendation and not required any sent to the select board will not be weighted

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for an application.

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Well, are you really telling people to go ahead and speak, but you're not going to listen

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to them? That's what you're saying. Not considering, is this close to not allowing them at all?

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If a board member does not want to take public comment under consideration, that's their

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prerogative. You can't mandate it. And the other thing you want to remember, it's just like

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in a court of law, once it's said, how do you want to hear it?

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People really have the right to come

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forward and express their views on something and have the expectation that you're going

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to listen to them and that this flies right in the face of what we're about as a country

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is free speech.

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Go ahead and speak it but we're not going to take it in consideration of that.

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I had an issue with that one, all right, attendance at the select board meeting section.

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This is the most problematic part of the section and what I'm going to relate to you is a

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have real life happening that happened in this town

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over 25 years ago when I sat in your seat.

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We weren't sitting there, we were sitting on the other building.

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We were going through an appointment process

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and one of the members of the board of selectmen,

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that's what we call them,

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wanted applicants to come in so we could meet them.

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They came in.

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So this member said,

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is there anything you'd like to expand upon

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about the position?

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And I started to get a little uncomfortable because that question hadn't been asked to

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the other ones.

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But immediately this person said, well, as you told me to say yesterday, well, those

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of you that know me, I gave the full Donny blow-up right there, and the appointment process stopped

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for the evening.

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Because what happened is there was a violation of due process to the other applicants that

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had gone ahead of this one.

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They weren't asked, the ones after them, well, then they had to stop thinking.

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So the town manager at the time went to legal about it.

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What legal told them?

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It's a willful act for remember the board to convey to someone what they should say during

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an application process.

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And because it's a willful act, you might not be covered under public officials liability

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So that's something for you guys to consider.

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The ends do not justify the means on an appointment process.

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The application you have is almost the same ones that was developed back then with a town's attorney.

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Said leave it at this. They can expand on this if they want to have extra pieces of paper they can expand upon it.

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But everybody is afforded the same opportunity at that time.

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This isn't an antidote. This really happened and there was serious consequences that could

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have come from that. So we should take that really in seriousness.

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All right. Then it says, qualities of a candidate.

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I don't know what we mean by qualities

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of a candidate. The only qualification you need to be on a board or a committee in this

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town is laid out in the charter. And if we start going down that road of needing more, you'll

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have people not apply. And that we don't want that. We want

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as diverse of the community as possible on these committees. We

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really don't want on that. We don't want to put other

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quality qualifications in there because eventually what will

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happen in order to be on a board of committee, you're going to

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have to have a bunch of capital letters behind the name because

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that's going to immediately jump out to people. Oh, they're

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more qualified, right?

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Then I have the last pot is your analysis pot. When you go through

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and grade and rank, you really, you can't keep those grade secret. So if you're taking

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heat now because you don't bow to certain way, you're still going to have to take heat

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because of the way you grade. And then when you grade, you're going to be telling people,

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Well, you finish first, that poor person finished last.

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What's that say about that?

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You're just going to have to...

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You cannot develop a process that takes heat off the board of the municipal officers.

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It just doesn't work that way.

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The responsibility of appointments lies with you.

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You may not agree with each other, but you have to make a decision without putting them

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man in reading them off and then have to abide by that, that just flies in the face of

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decision-making at the board level.

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And the other thing it does, it puts applicants to boards and committees through a more

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scrutinized process than any of you had to.

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Think about what I'm saying now.

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The scrutiny you had to face was based on individuals in town.

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They put you through their own process in their head, just like you are doing now when

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you do appointments.

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Then they went out and voted, and all you needed was one more vote, and the person

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you were running against.

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You are putting a process on boards and committees who are volunteers, just volunteers, tough

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other than what you had to go through.

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It's a crappy process.

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It's a crappy thing to do to say yes to one and no to another.

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I've been through it.

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But guess what, as I told a reporter years ago when I made a vote on an appointment, this

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reporter called me and said, what did I think I did to the town of Gloucester by voting

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that way?

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And I said, absolutely nothing, because what people have to remember, we're over 200 years

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old now, and in 200 years from now, that appointment's not going to mean anything.

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It won't even be recorded. They'll have to look for the vote.

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These are not life and death situations that people make it out to be. It's just an appointment or a volunteer.

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That's on that. Now the other thing I have is for the by-laws of the board and the committees.

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I have some real concerns in there and what I've done is I print them out so you can have them.

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And what I would ask is that you know that anything that's underlying is where my concern is and ending parentheses.

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is what I've written down for concern.

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You have some issues as well.

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Anybody else like to speak?

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All right.

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We will close.

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Go ahead.

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I'm sorry I didn't see you get up.

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I'm slow.

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And I apologize because I tried to email this,

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but everything's gone wacky at my house.

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Good evening.

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My name's Linda Chase.

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I live on Snow Hill Road in a Gloucester.

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I'm here tonight to discuss the duties, responsibilities,

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and what I view as the ineffectiveness of the Board of Selectment.

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MRSA 30A subsection 235, the Board of Selectment shall act as a body administrative service to be performed through the town manager and or committees.

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The

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Board has time and time again, ignore this mandate.

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Speaking directly with employees, this is not your job.

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Your job, that job belongs to the town manager, the interim town manager, or an acting town

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manager.

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If you currently do not have an acting town manager in the absence of a town manager,

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I suggest you appoint one.

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During this past storm is my understanding that Suleiman Bragon reached out to the Ambitz

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about opening a warming station at their facility, while I agree a warming station was a great

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idea and a plan is not his job. That is the job of the town manager or the EMA director.

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While I understand both positions are or have been in limbo, they should have been given

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the information to contact the ambulance directly. It is also my understanding that Mr.

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Bragg do went to the public works and got a town radio, again, not his job. He then announced

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over the radio that the warming station was open to both the public works channel and

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the EMS channel.

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The EMS notification happened during a code.

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While I have sat where you are, I understand it's a difficult and thankless job.

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If I or past selectman members had treated the town, the employees or others such this way,

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It would have been a immediate call for recall.

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I ask that you get it together.

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I ask that you consult the town attorney, have the radio immediately returned if not

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already done, removal of the chair, and sanctions against the chair if appropriate.

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The board has not worked as a cohesive body, nor have they worked in the best interest of

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the town.

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This starts with the leadership.

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Their inability to make decisions has caused us to lose employees.

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The town people shake their heads when they discuss this, do your job and let your professional staff do theirs.

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Anybody else on the public like to speak?

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All right, we will close public comment.

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We will go on to a public hearing for renewal of an automobile, the cycling, an automobile graveyard license,

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since the Larry and Vicky Wedge, DBA Boat Shop.

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Now open the public here and at 8.32.

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Is there anybody from the...

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7.14.

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7.14.

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Sorry, I forgot the wrong clock.

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No comment.

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7.14 is there anybody from the public that like to speak.

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All right.

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I did, I believe the board received one letter

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about some concerns we can talk about that or I can read it now it's up to the

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board what the issue is I think everybody got it correct okay just want to

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make sure on that no public comment

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All right. We'll close the public hearing at 7.15. All right.

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Moving on to old business, updates,

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minus losses, select member Hawthorne, do you have anything? No, I do not. All right.

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All right. All right. I'll go. I just want to thank public works, fire, rescue, the ambits

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in the volunteers for their support during the storm.

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To my understanding, the fire rescue had over 30 calls, so we appreciate what they did

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there.

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Thank you to those that did organize the warm center, which was not me, I do appreciate

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that, and those who talked about the shelter in case we needed that, so we were ready for

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that.

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Thank the CIP committee for their work, and that's about all I have, Vice Chair Larrivi.

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Same comments, thank you to everybody for their help over the weekend.

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Also thanks to the line crews that were out trying to restore power.

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I was one of the people that had worked without power until after Christmas.

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But thank you to all of them for working through the holidays and everybody who worked on the line crew.

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Yeah, big thank you to the Ambets.

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I did reach out to them about being open as a warming shelter during the storm and they were happy to help.

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So thank you to them.

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Have a happy New Year, a safe and happy New Year.

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Thank you.

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Sleck-Member Dunnevin.

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Just echo the comments of Peter and Paul and happy New Year.

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All right.

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Department heads, I do have anything Mr. Haas to you all set.

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All right.

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Board's and committees, the agenda items will wait on but if you want to talk about the other items,

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the grant and that stuff, if you don't mind, if you want to go right now.

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Oh, I'm sorry, just one second.

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Sorry, I managed your curb.

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It's okay.

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Just a couple different things here. I've been working one-on-one with department heads

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to kind of go over duties and standard operating procedures. That's going very well and I

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appreciate all their attendance and working with me to work on that. The Select Board

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and Town Manager had issued a statement strongly condemning the swastika on Intervale Road.

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the swaths to go west painted over by the public works department.

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Budget worksheets have been turned in and Lori Ann and I have been diligently working

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on getting the budget together.

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Director of Recreation, I met with Grays Town Manager and Recreation regarding the MOU.

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We discussed the board's concerns with some of the language and we agreed that both towns

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attorneys will sit down and address those concerns and then submit that revised document.

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the Gray Select Board. On the summer 13th, I attended the Southern Main Managers Meeting.

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The County Administrator reported on a heating assistance program that's being offered

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by the county. There's $50,000 total available in that funding. I attended a joint leaders

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meeting with the Gray Officials on December 14th, and also attended the Greater Portland Council

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government's reception that night, not quite a few folks at night, so that was a good experience.

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I have contacted a contractor about fixing the lights out front.

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I think we had talked about doing some shades for that, but actually I think the real solution

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there is to dim the lights so it's not shining in the neighbors, but it still shines on the ballot box.

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So we saw we saw one problem but we don't create another problem, so the

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library roof has been fixed.

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And also the generator has been hooked up. We received $3,000 grant funding for that generator.

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And the TV equipment has been installed.

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So I believe that's up and running as well.

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Just a couple of other items here, the state is requesting that folks who may have had

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damage from the storm this weekend to submit an application.

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And that application can be found on the town's website or Facebook, surely.

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And what the state is trying to do is decide whether they're going to submit for a presidential

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declaration.

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There's not been one since the ice storm in 1998, so that tells you the severity of the storm this past weekend.

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Also, I received a letter from DOT about some work that's going to be done this summer, beginning on Route 122, beginning at the New Gloucester Auburn Line and extending West 3.85 miles to Main Street in Poland.

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And I also want to thank the crews of public works and the fire crews as well.

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They did an excellent job.

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They did a lot of hard work, worked a lot of hours, and I know it was very taxing on them.

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And I want to also just thank the staff, the board and residents in general for just a really

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great welcome to the Gloucester and the continued cooperation on all fronts.

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And I want to wish everybody a happy new year.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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questions for the manager? No, a question of a statement. I will say that I was

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very impressed with how well town manager, town staff, put out emails, kept the

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voter selection very well informed of day-to-day prog. You know what was going on in

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the community during this emergency situation? It was it was different and very

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welcome. Thank you, manager Kerbin for that. I'll pass that along to other staff

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as well. A couple of questions I noticed in a report. We have answers, but the old generator

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that we were going to put at the library, what is the town going to do with that? Are we

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going to sell it? In my other question, as I saw, that the fire department mentioned

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jobs of life. The new ones are whatever they're called now. We're putting a service.

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What are

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I don't have any particular order, but do we need to do something to dispose of them or give them to someone or what is that?

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I'll check with the public work structure and deputy chief and get it together.

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Provide your answers of those.

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Thank you. That's only thing I said. Any other comments or questions?

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All right. Orgin committee, I'm sorry. You're up now.

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Yes, sir.

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Doug Smith, the RC.

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First, from this side of the podium, I want to say thank you.

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you guys for all of your commitment to New Gloucester over this year and happy new year.

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I just was planning tonight to give you a brief update on the, let me get my note up here,

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on the Climate Resiliency Project, that we, I'm just going to give you a brief reminder and summary

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In June of this year, you guys approved the town manager, Landis, to write a letter of commitment from the town to the state partnership program for us to enlist the services of a service provider.

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And to help our provider, Rachel Lynn Rumsen, get a service provider grant to help the

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town prepare for the possibility of our grant.

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So in October, she was awarded that grant for New Gloucester and for three communities,

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New Gloucester, Durham, and Gray.

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So where we are now in a few weeks since that award, we've started to gather information

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and start the process, what the state required, well, let me say here, we're not applied, we haven't applied for it, and we're not yet applying for a grant.

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In order to apply for a partnership grant, we need to undergo this process that I just described by having a state provider.

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and then in order to even apply for the grant we have to do a community needs

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assessment look a climate needs assessment so looking 20-30 years in the future

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what impact is climate change going to have in the Gloucester to sort of do a

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needs assessment about that which is starting to have underway now and then to have

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a convergence with our other two communities to decide among us this is the

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municipalities and the community what would be the best use of a grant and at

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that point we would come to you or you would us together would then say we

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would like to apply for say a $50,000 grant and then we'd have in the process

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that we're undergoing now we'd have decided what area we want might we might

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want to apply for the grant in and those can be anything from municipal energy

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the G management projects to public information projects or if we're looking at storm water

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in the future we may want to look at what we can do to mitigate dangers of the future.

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So that's what this grant process is about and right now we're just beginning with our

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consultants to gain together information and I don't know how much more you want me to say

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about that.

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But there's, we have some, with her grant, she has the capacity and has hired an economist

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and a research group to look at the Gloucester Comprehensive Plan to give us a view of

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regionally what things are going to look like currently, what things are going to look like

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in the future. And then we take that information plus gather input from you folks,

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It's the community at large and then people in the community who are not only stakeholders

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but who may have the most important input about what we can do.

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And then after, and then we'll assemble that information and bring it back and decide

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as a community what we, if we want to apply for the grant, what we would do.

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That summarizes it.

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Very well.

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That helps, yes.

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Very well.

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Well, I did want to touch on one thing.

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You have an public information gathering.

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I meant that's, yes.

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And that's on January 19th, we've set up, we want stakeholder members and members of

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the community to gather so that we can share the information that we've gained to date, share

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information about the potential project, and then get feedback from people.

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It's part of the process of deciding what to do is to bring community members in.

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And we scheduled that for January 19th and I know you had a question, you asked me a question about the venue.

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Yeah, and I was personally and I've heard it from some other people in the manager.

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It probably should be on a talent facility, at least that's my personal feeling I think the board would be on that.

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No harm and I know what you're trying to do getting an easy spot, but January 19th I believe this room is available.

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if you'd like to have it here.

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I think we need a little bigger space,

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but personally, I thought of that too.

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I feel both ways, like a municipal space,

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or I think the reasoning for the congregational church

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is that it's a comfortable space,

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and it's known, it's a known public space in the community.

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So we didn't go much further than that of making a plan.

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Be a little hard to switch it at this point

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because we're about to promote it.

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The board's feelings on that or input her.

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So when I first saw your venue, my same, I had the same reaction and it really should

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be held on town property because it eventually kind of present to us, asking us to move forward

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with the grant.

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We also want you to come to that meeting.

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So I would have preferred to have it on site as well and even televised to be honest with

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as much information.

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so that way, anybody that goes to the meeting, maybe if they forgot something, missed it, they can go back and watch it again.

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You know, so sometimes it's good to replay, but I know it's more about probably like a workshop, so there's probably going to be.

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It's a combination of public information and what we know plus a workshop.

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You know, it's what's funny is that this is part of the comp.

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If you guys had been talking to us during the time we're planning that this is the feedback we're going to continue to need about that.

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There's a larger gathering, after this one, the three municipalities will get together.

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We could try to, who's listening, strategize to have that happen in your Gloucester and

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in municipal space.

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So there's still time.

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This is only the first of the two.

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But I understand you've already advertised it.

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We're starting to advertise.

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It'll be awkward to change it at this point.

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I'm okay with it this time, like future needs to be public in a public.

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And what time is that?

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On the 19th?

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It's 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.

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16.

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We can get that on the town calendar, if you.

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That's what I was going to ask.

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Can we put that on the?

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Yeah, if you can send me the information.

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Yeah, and I'll get it on there.

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Oh, thank you.

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Oh, thank you for your support.

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No problems.

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Yeah, I appreciate it.

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No, it nothing against the church or anything.

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Nothing against you for doing that.

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That's just a learning curve, things.

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Yeah, appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions for the ESC?

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OK, thank you for that.

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We'll be back on some agenda items.

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And can that still happen?

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Can they still record it there?

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Is that what you're saying?

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You know, it wouldn't be live, it'd be of the show,

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like they can't meet it.

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That might be a question.

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Yeah.

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We'll talk about maybe somehow record net possibly.

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I'm not sure how that technology works.

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It wouldn't be live streamed there saying,

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but there still may be a way we can record.

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I think that would be important.

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And then we can somehow, when the technology converted to our show.

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All right.

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Thank you, sir.

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All right.

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new business renewal of automobile recycling and automobile grave yard license

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Application for Larry and Vicki Wedge, DBA, folk shop, CO, CEL Haas, if you could come to the podium, please.

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Good evening. Can you bring us up to speed? I know we have a report from you. And then if the board has questions, go there. Sure. So Larry Wedge last year in April was given quite a list and six months to complete it with benchmarks.

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marks throughout that six months and every bench mark was met prior to it needing to be

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done.

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Done to the way it was proposed to be done. It just amazes us that he was able to

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get it completed. The amount of cars had been reduced significantly. The fence has been

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moved back. It's been cleaned up. The front yard, the driveway area is kept neat and clean.

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the small pond has been filled in, so the small boats wagons don't get lost in

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the puddles in the rain.

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They've done everything they've been asked to do, they

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had their permit on time. The abutters to the rear have signed a letter,

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granting the permission to be within 20 feet of the fence to store vehicles. They

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do not have one to the abutters to the right as you look at the property, so the

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vehicles that are there are transient they're either ones for repair or they are ones that belong to

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employees that work there.

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Questions input to Hawthorne? Explain to me what the code

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definition is of a fence that encloses the junkyard.

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Not to be smart but I think it's self-explanatory.

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It's got to be at least six feet high. Yep. And enclose how much? Can't see it from the highway.

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I can't see what from my way junkyard. This is the only definition for the fence.

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So a highway is any public roadway by state definition. So old route 26 or

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Sabbath they road. There needs to be a fence on that road.

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I guess the fence line

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that goes between the abutters is not required.

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I drove by the ith tonight.

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The

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pictures that we received in our packet are completely different than going

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over there this evening and doing a visual. I have stayed in the past that I have been

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very happy with the upgrades that has happened over there. I've been quite amazed by it.

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They've done great, great things with new fencing. But I went by that tonight. There are 16 feet

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of fence that's laying down on the ground. There's another portion of the fence further down

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that has a gaping hole.

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The fencing stops behind the three tractor trail of boxes that are there.

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So it doesn't keep any kids out, any animals out.

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There is, you can see right underneath those trucks into that yard.

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So I have concern.

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I mean, we've done great things.

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It looks pretty, it

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ain't right in my eyes.

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And that's why I ask the question is what defines offense for a junkyard because this is

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it's piecemeal, it's a pretty piecemeal, it's better than that was.

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But it's inefficient, it doesn't, to me, it doesn't protect the public, especially the

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children's because the kids on the, this is what I've been talking about for a long time,

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it's kids on bicycles, they stop, they play, they look great, you know, there's nothing prohibitive

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of keeping anyone out of that facility.

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I haven't found anywhere in the state statute

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that says it's to keep people out,

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it's to protect it from view.

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That's why the minimum height is six feet.

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Okay, if we take that stance,

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then are the boxes junk?

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Which boxes are you, the box trailers?

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Box trailers.

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I believe they're used for storage.

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They have wheels on them.

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So what makes them, what makes that different?

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different than what? It's not an automobile. I'm not trying to split hairs with you. No, I, but I am. I have concerns. Okay, I need a definition of what defines junk and junk to me should be.

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They're not a junkyard.

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There are two different definitions.

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A junkyard is for anything other than automobiles.

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So you can have a wood junkyard, you can have a metal junkyard, you can have one with

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just fencing, you can have one with building materials, you can have it with windows, with doors,

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by state definition that's a junkyard.

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They are an automobile graveyard.

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That's the definition of their business.

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As far as the fence panels that are down, we did just go through a pretty good windstorm.

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The other one, unless I misunderstood, you're still waiting for the gate to be made.

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The small hole that's there, that has the yellow chain link over it,

459
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:53,510
that's the small one

460
00:35:53,510 --> 00:36:00,550
that's over more towards where Otelco is, that's a walk through that they're waiting for

461
00:36:00,550 --> 00:36:04,050
the man made, or the maid gate to go there, the swinging gate.

462
00:36:04,750 --> 00:36:09,570
Instead of having to open up the big double one to go in and out, they can go in and out that way.

463
00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:14,310
As far as the underside of the trailers being addressed, we never addressed those.

464
00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:21,290
That wasn't anything that was in the charge that they had to keep their permit to be able to reapply.

465
00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:23,190
It's something that can be done.

466
00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:28,050
And that's why we're having this meeting, if there are other concerns.

467
00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:35,230
I think that Mr. Wedge has demonstrated that he's more than willing to do what needs to be done.

468
00:36:36,370 --> 00:36:43,530
I did read in the email that there was some small holes in the Abudder's fence that they had to repair.

469
00:36:44,770 --> 00:36:49,130
Had there been any knowledge of those, I would have talked to Mr. Wedge about it.

470
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,480
And there are people they do to preempt what you might read.

471
00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:04,900
And that white, and I have had contact many times through phone calls, and I've answered her questions.

472
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:09,260
That is the property to the right of the correct looking, okay?

473
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:09,760
Right.

474
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,060
And the young lady that's there, I have never had contact with.

475
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:20,540
I was assuming they would be here tonight to get any more of their concerns or grievances.

476
00:37:20,540 --> 00:37:29,840
So, next week I'll reach out to them via email, but I'm 100% accessible, and any questions

477
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,080
or concerns that have been brought to my attention have been answered.

478
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:43,020
So, I mean, the things that you're talking about tonight are not anything that was addressed

479
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,560
last April of this past year, it was nothing that we charged them with having to have done.

480
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,780
But if the underside of the trailers needs to be, and I don't want to speak for Mr.

481
00:37:54,900 --> 00:38:03,020
Wedge, but if the underside of the trailers need to be covered, fenced in, then my intent

482
00:38:03,020 --> 00:38:06,120
is not to burden him with anything he doesn't have to do.

483
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,660
But I want to make sure that we are well within our defined right.

484
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,540
You know, if we're going to, if we're going to give this license, are we doing the right

485
00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:24,260
thing. Have we made him meet the requirement? That's why I'm asking what's the definition

486
00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:31,200
of offense around a graveyard? What's the protocol? Well, the best I can do is I can look into

487
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,760
it to see if the underside of those trailers based on any definitions I can find, and I'll

488
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:46,520
talk to the manager, Curbin, about it, and see if we come to a conclusion, and we can get

489
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:54,340
East side, the back, further back, I believe, because I went back there years ago to walk

490
00:38:54,340 --> 00:38:59,740
it. There were holes then in that fence that needed repair. I assume the letter that

491
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:05,340
was sent to us was referring to those holes. And I have to because we just recently

492
00:39:05,340 --> 00:39:08,040
got that email that we still have a problem on that back fence.

493
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,680
It's two different of butters and the fence panels that were in the front and correctly

494
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,180
if I'm wrong, were used to fix the ones in the back.

495
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:21,000
So what's been fixed since it has been addressed since

496
00:39:21,580 --> 00:39:26,360
this email that we received here a week ago from the back of

497
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,440
butters, yes, yes, but Larry's telling me that some of those

498
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,860
also came down with the storm.

499
00:39:38,130 --> 00:39:39,990
I certainly want to thank the wedges.

500
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:41,730
I believe that's what it is the last name.

501
00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:43,310
They say that right.

502
00:39:43,970 --> 00:39:46,250
You know, drastic difference over there.

503
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:47,770
I do have some concern and strutting by it.

504
00:39:47,770 --> 00:39:54,190
see a few holes in the fence. I think it can be easily fixed. If we don't approve this tonight,

505
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:56,970
the license expires on the 31st, correct? Great.

506
00:40:01,210 --> 00:40:02,990
Obviously, I'm very pro business and I want to do

507
00:40:02,990 --> 00:40:03,730
everything we can.

508
00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:12,430
I would be okay, but I think we need to set some benchmarks. Maybe nothing strict,

509
00:40:12,610 --> 00:40:17,130
nothing drastic. I don't want to be a burden, but, and I'm not necessarily sure what those are,

510
00:40:17,130 --> 00:40:22,970
But, you know, the neighbor had some concerns, we've got to this point, are we going to go back or not?

511
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:29,590
I don't know, and I also, you know, I think it would be, you know, a good thing to have some of those benchmarks anyway.

512
00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:34,730
So, that's where I'm at on it, and some of the other points were already raised on the fence.

513
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:35,670
I won't go any further.

514
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:40,710
Anything else? Any other questions or concerns or input or?

515
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:50,430
I applaud the wedges for putting so much effort and work into doing what the town has

516
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:54,550
required of them to come up to this point for renewal.

517
00:40:55,810 --> 00:41:02,070
It was a big undertaking and according to our codes, he has signed off on it.

518
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:07,230
He feels that everything's been met and our fire chief has also signed off on it, saying

519
00:41:07,230 --> 00:41:09,370
that he also feels that everything's been met.

520
00:41:10,070 --> 00:41:14,010
And I know there are probably some concerns with other board members.

521
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:16,210
We did just have a ginormous storm.

522
00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:20,510
A lot of people have a lot of things damaged on their properties.

523
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:29,410
I feel fine with moving forward with the renewal license, because that was a big undertaking.

524
00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:35,130
And also, Eileen on our department heads to make that professional decision.

525
00:41:35,830 --> 00:41:40,190
And coming to us saying that they've both signed off on it, so that's my stance.

526
00:41:40,350 --> 00:41:40,730
If I may.

527
00:41:42,490 --> 00:41:49,750
So with that said, the wedges have more than demonstrated that they will work with us.

528
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:57,370
So if there are other concerns, that if you choose to pass it tonight with pending conditions,

529
00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,530
because we need to have time for those conditions so that you can discuss them.

530
00:42:01,530 --> 00:42:05,470
or I'll talk with the abouters, talk with the wedges,

531
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:11,190
and see what they are, and give them what the conditions

532
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:12,650
would be like we did last time.

533
00:42:13,570 --> 00:42:16,810
And then if the wedges decide that the conditions are

534
00:42:17,590 --> 00:42:19,970
unacceptable, then that would be their choice.

535
00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:22,910
But I believe they've demonstrated that they're more

536
00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:24,850
than willing to do what needs to be done.

537
00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:26,470
I definitely agree.

538
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:28,890
I think just making sure the fence is up to code would be

539
00:42:28,890 --> 00:42:30,610
my biggest thing on that.

540
00:42:30,670 --> 00:42:31,570
That's where I'm at.

541
00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:33,470
I'm not trying to break anybody's bank account,

542
00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:37,730
but I want to prevent children from going in that yard.

543
00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:41,110
And near those three box trucks,

544
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:44,590
I would like to see, I don't care if it's chain length fence,

545
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:46,410
and old wooden snow fence,

546
00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:48,810
just something to keep animals and children

547
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:50,570
out of what goes on in there.

548
00:42:50,570 --> 00:42:53,610
That's all I'm protected, safety and protection.

549
00:42:54,110 --> 00:42:57,150
So I will look into what the fencing requirements are

550
00:42:57,150 --> 00:43:08,090
for that if it's to restrict people or restrict view and my understanding is it's to restrict view but

551
00:43:08,090 --> 00:43:12,990
with that also talk with the wedges to see what their feelings are on it. I mean, if it's something

552
00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:21,270
that they have to do, I know they'll do it but I don't want to force them to do something that the

553
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:27,750
The law doesn't require them to do to satisfy a need that we feel we need to have.

554
00:43:28,350 --> 00:43:31,270
If it's not the law, then I can't enforce it.

555
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,900
I'd entertain a motion if that's where I had Mrs. Further Discussion.

556
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,980
I just wanted to say that I think they've done a phenomenal job cleaning it up.

557
00:43:45,380 --> 00:43:46,460
I mean, it looks better.

558
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:54,320
What I get out of the email, mostly of the concern neighbors, who's going to be there to make

559
00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:01,200
sure it stays in compliance and for me that's you. Do you know what I mean? So I think just

560
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:06,560
being aware that we're not just going to approve this in go away. Do you know what I mean?

561
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,400
There is somebody that's going to monitor and make sure that they stay in compliance. I'm

562
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:18,880
fine with this, moving, approving this. With the understanding that that gate gets installed

563
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,980
that opening right now, that's the fences of the land and all the wind damage is fixed.

564
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,500
Yep, so I'll make an appointment next week with Mr. Wedge to go down there and we'll have a discussion.

565
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:38,420
By then, I'll have a much clearer answer for you on the definition of defense and if it's something

566
00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:44,620
that needs to be enforced, it'll be enforced. Thank you. I just have a question, it's not really

567
00:44:44,620 --> 00:44:56,400
matters but how many cars did we haul out? Do we know? It's going to be a lot. How many cars

568
00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:29,900
I appreciate that. We certainly appreciate everything you do. Everybody wants to know how much does it cost for a panel, for one of them fences? $100 each? We understand we don't. We don't want to certainly financial screen you anymore. And no, it's certainly noticeable. You've done very well, sir. And we just want to make sure that fence is fixed and on that note, I'll certainly entertain a motion. I'd like to make a motion to renew the automobile recycling and automobiles.

569
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:37,340
Graveyard license. Second. All right. I have a motion and a second to motion by

570
00:45:37,340 --> 00:45:42,920
Donovan. Second by Vice Chair Larry V2. Renew the automobile recycling and

571
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:49,940
automobile graveyard license for Larry and Larry and Vicki Wedge DBA Bokeshop.

572
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:55,200
Any further discussion? Just with the conditions of you meeting and checking on

573
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,800
those things that we discussed. I'll get back to you. Yep. Thank you. All right. All

574
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,420
All those in favor?

575
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,280
Opposed?

576
00:46:02,540 --> 00:46:03,460
Carries 4-0.

577
00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:04,000
Thank you.

578
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,060
Thank you, Mr. Wedge.

579
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:05,400
Thank you.

580
00:46:05,660 --> 00:46:06,420
I'll see you in hospital.

581
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:06,820
Thank you.

582
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:08,120
I have a happy new year.

583
00:46:08,420 --> 00:46:09,060
Happy new year.

584
00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:11,140
2.17.

585
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:13,700
Approving the septic tank waste and holding tank.

586
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:18,700
Septic tank waste and holding tank waste disposal agreement.

587
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:23,500
In our packets is a five-year agreement with the

588
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,660
What do they call it?

589
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,560
What are pollution controllers?

590
00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:42,100
This is for our septic haulers to have a place to dispose of the septic waste.

591
00:46:43,180 --> 00:46:45,160
Any discussion on this?

592
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,740
Both should authorize the time manager's side of the agreement.

593
00:46:51,740 --> 00:46:58,500
So second, I have a motion by Hawthorne, second by Donovan to have the town manager sign

594
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:01,160
the agreement, any further discussion.

595
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,960
I just wanted to know, I reached out to Mack Tee, one of our vendors here in town.

596
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,260
And he said it's definitely needed, otherwise they wouldn't have a place to dump.

597
00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:15,000
And they pay $0.12 a gallon to dump the waste there.

598
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,080
So every household, $120 fee goes to them to dump the waste.

599
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,520
So that was just information.

600
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,140
So all right, all those in favor?

601
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:26,720
Opposed?

602
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,920
Carries 4-0.

603
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,780
All right, 2.1-8 consideration of information provided

604
00:47:32,780 --> 00:47:34,700
by the Environmental Resource Committee

605
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:36,260
on Solar Options for the Town.

606
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:41,200
Quite a while ago, we asked the Solar Committee,

607
00:47:41,620 --> 00:47:43,020
the Environmental Resource Committee

608
00:47:43,020 --> 00:47:44,740
to look at solar options for the Town,

609
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,480
meaning solar panels, or having a provider

610
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,140
that we buy energies from the solar provider.

611
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,040
They did a lot of research.

612
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,080
This has done a little while ago.

613
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,020
We just haven't been able to fit it into a agenda.

614
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,860
So they gathered a lot of information.

615
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,560
I asked them to simplify it, put it down,

616
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,020
and they did that very well for me.

617
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:06,740
So what is in front of us is a couple options.

618
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Do you want to expand it all on it or not really to expand?

619
00:48:10,580 --> 00:48:12,940
So you can just correct me if I'm reading any of this wrong.

620
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:17,520
But there's options on there where we can spend a lot of money

621
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:24,820
and put in a solar system, a solar panel system, or we can simply purchase power through

622
00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:32,020
a company, so we'll be buying our power from the solar provider still delivered by CMP,

623
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:36,520
and that would be a 15% rate reduction for 20 years, with no contract.

624
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:42,180
Obviously, we need more information so the board can accept the report as it is.

625
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,000
They can ask the manager to look into this company.

626
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,520
we could put on RFP, what would the board's wishes be?

627
00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:58,400
So we did have a solar company come in a few years back and talk to us about solar arrays on top of buildings.

628
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:11,600
My concern would be the historical district. I don't believe you can put a solar array on top of a roof, but I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure that that can't be done.

629
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:17,180
And so this complex would kind of be null and void for any potential for the solar arrays.

630
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:19,920
But I appreciate all the work you did.

631
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:21,900
Absolutely saved us some time.

632
00:49:22,540 --> 00:49:23,080
Thank you.

633
00:49:23,940 --> 00:49:25,180
I do go ahead.

634
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Was there taking

635
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:34,520
the array out of the option on municipal?

636
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Was there a purchase option from somebody else's solar?

637
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,340
Yeah, the last option I had mentioned.

638
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,340
Was it one that stood out?

639
00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:46,060
Well, they got, you can jump in if you want.

640
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,800
They got information from these four companies

641
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,000
abroad and one that says competitive energy services.

642
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,280
We'd purchase the power.

643
00:49:52,540 --> 00:49:55,260
So that's a solar panel system set up someplace.

644
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,460
It could be the one that's down there.

645
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,580
It could be, you know, for the cell someplace.

646
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:03,360
We'd get our, we sign on and buy a power from them.

647
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,700
They would reduce our CMP bail by 16%.

648
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:08,120
I do it at my house on sampling.

649
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:11,980
I use a different company, but did I cover that correctly?

650
00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:15,480
So that would be, and without setting up a solar panel,

651
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:17,980
we could buy it from them as an option.

652
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,780
The commitment was just my follow-up question.

653
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,540
One has a 20-year commitment.

654
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,380
One has no year commitment.

655
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:31,480
What's the 20-year commitment mean from a year?

656
00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:31,960
OK,

657
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:35,200
sure.

658
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,340
I think these offer or options that are in front of you,

659
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,020
like if you're interested in specific the year commitment,

660
00:50:43,020 --> 00:50:45,080
and we can go back and ask that specifically.

661
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,660
We just got a general breakdown of what they offer,

662
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,840
but I think this is just to start the discussion,

663
00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:55,340
and then just tell us which direction you'd like us

664
00:50:55,340 --> 00:50:56,820
to go more in if that's not true.

665
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,240
Yeah, for me, just speaking of, for me,

666
00:51:01,340 --> 00:51:04,320
the option that seems to fit best at this point

667
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,240
would be just for us to purchase from somebody else's,

668
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,580
and if we can save that money on our CMP bills here.

669
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:13,600
and municipality.

670
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:21,660
I don't know what the, if we had a commitment and we opted out of

671
00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:26,760
the commitment, what would the implications be for us as a municipality? That would be

672
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,760
my question, but that seems like it might be the best option for us.

673
00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:34,430
Did you want to say something? You mind?

674
00:51:35,330 --> 00:51:35,670
No, go ahead.

675
00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:41,950
The one you had mentioned, we have PowerPoint still, that was given that night and it was

676
00:51:41,950 --> 00:51:47,750
was to go down at 6-11 along either the Fire Department or the New Public Works Building

677
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:52,670
roof. And that was going to be strictly for the town, but it would have helped the

678
00:51:52,670 --> 00:51:53,030
whole town.

679
00:51:53,090 --> 00:51:54,390
That was actually putting solar panels.

680
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:59,950
Yeah, yeah, solar panels on the roof. And then when we had, was it six months ago, somebody

681
00:51:59,950 --> 00:52:01,890
came in and was about to solar a race.

682
00:52:02,210 --> 00:52:03,890
Yes, yep, yep.

683
00:52:08,740 --> 00:52:17,360
For me, the, I like the idea of the purchase, you know, I like the idea of it as, and

684
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,440
I've discussed this before, I'd like to, I just have a hard time knowing which array it's

685
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:29,460
coming from, because I think, you know, putting solar arrays on rooftops and, you know,

686
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:35,020
old trans, old landfills is, you know, a great use of those properties, but as a forest

687
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:39,540
red, I don't care if we're collecting the forest to put a solar array in it, so that's just

688
00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:40,500
my take on that.

689
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,000
So

690
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:49,210
I think we should, or the manager, or someone should at least look into there, if we

691
00:52:49,210 --> 00:52:53,770
We can purchase from one of these solar and get a reduction, and I mean, it wouldn't hurt to look.

692
00:52:53,810 --> 00:52:57,190
Obviously, I don't want to make a 20 year commitment.

693
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:59,510
I think it's next amp, I'm sorry, the second one up.

694
00:52:59,610 --> 00:53:02,610
You don't have to make a 20 year commitment, you get a 15% reduction.

695
00:53:05,090 --> 00:53:12,010
I know it was simply a sign in a piece of paper for mine, and I see on my bill, delivery service comes from CMP in my power.

696
00:53:12,190 --> 00:53:16,250
I paid her, seeing Brown, I think it is, seeing Brown energy services.

697
00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:18,350
So what's the board's wishes?

698
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:25,900
I'm okay in looking at what the potential savings would be and what the commitment might

699
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:33,580
be the manager and any other information they may provide about their array portfolio.

700
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:40,440
So I agree with Selectman Laravie about the savings of that way.

701
00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:44,860
I am not interested in solar panels at this time either of mine.

702
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:45,460
I agree.

703
00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:46,400
I agree.

704
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:53,380
So, would we like the manager to get information from that they have and look into it further?

705
00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:58,460
Yes, I think we can direct the town manager to take care of that.

706
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:05,320
So, on the next amp, whichever one it is, if you want to give the manager a curb in and he can...

707
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,180
Yes, you can give you the contact.

708
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,320
We appreciate your work on it, saved a lot of things.

709
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Thank you.

710
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,800
I know the information you gave us a lot.

711
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,220
I really appreciate this is a lot easier to read than those packets.

712
00:54:15,220 --> 00:54:22,300
So do we need to have Tom Andrew come back there us so can we just instruct him to pick out the best one take care of it?

713
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:32,200
I think we just instruct him to pick out the only other. My only other thought related to this is what our obligation is with NY.

714
00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:35,880
Right. That's something they would, you know, how to figure out for sure.

715
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:42,420
I don't know what the agreement with, you know, what part on or that facility. I don't know what the agreement would allow and wouldn't allow.

716
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:46,920
So that would be part of the information I'd like to figure out.

717
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:50,680
Any thoughts?

718
00:54:53,470 --> 00:54:57,850
Well, I think you can probably collect Ted's monthly reports,

719
00:54:57,850 --> 00:55:02,690
and he usually puts out how many tons and stuff.

720
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:07,610
I think that's all stuff that you can access on there.

721
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:11,150
I'm sure Charlene or someone, the town manager can direct someone,

722
00:55:11,310 --> 00:55:17,540
but as far as access to staff,

723
00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:25,440
I think that would be under the purview of the town manager to decide what kind of access and how much not that he would restrict information.

724
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:35,280
But everybody I think has a full plate right now with the budget season so I don't kind of lean towards the town manager to direct help direct as well.

725
00:55:35,540 --> 00:55:41,440
I'd be I'm really interested in this and I don't disagree at all and I'd be really to curious to see.

726
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,320
you, what ideal is with MWAC?

727
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,080
I'm not saying it's a bad deal, what ideal is,

728
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,580
but again, that would be from Manager Curbin,

729
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:51,760
so with his approval for you working through that.

730
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,900
So, did you want to make that as a motion

731
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:57,320
or as a recommendation or that she works with a manager

732
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,660
to what level he's comfortable or?

733
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,240
I think that would probably be the best way.

734
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,220
I mean, the town manager can definitely get the information

735
00:56:06,220 --> 00:56:09,320
needed and then maybe present at one of your meetings

736
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:16,780
to help kind of guide where the next step should come from, but again, I lead with the

737
00:56:16,780 --> 00:56:17,300
town manager.

738
00:56:17,740 --> 00:56:23,800
I think if we answer those questions related to our obligations there, then it opens

739
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,280
the door for further discussion about potential options.

740
00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:38,240
I think that's one of the things I do know that's changed is that we used to get money

741
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:43,620
for certain recycling products that we recycled, so separating them, and then COVID happened,

742
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:48,800
right? So then we had one big, just everybody threw everything into one, okay? There was no

743
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:55,360
recycling. So I think it kind of got thrown off. I know new gloss has been really good at recycling,

744
00:56:56,220 --> 00:57:04,940
but I also think that we could learn from the transfer station staff, if the town manager meets

745
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:09,740
with them to discuss more because they probably would have more ideas than us, they do

746
00:57:09,740 --> 00:57:10,220
it every day.

747
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,080
Is it okay if I?

748
00:57:13,620 --> 00:57:14,480
Oh, absolutely.

749
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:20,340
I think just of what we wanted to do is very similar to the solar research.

750
00:57:20,620 --> 00:57:25,860
We just wanted an official charge from the board to talk with town staff and look at reports.

751
00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:30,220
I know that I don't know what year the Transpriciation Study was done.

752
00:57:30,220 --> 00:57:34,660
But I think in order for us to review that we needed an official charge from the board to review

753
00:57:34,660 --> 00:57:40,800
that I might be speaking, but I think we're I'm here really just looking for an official charge

754
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,080
to do some research talk to staff and I of course don't want to get in the middle of a bid,

755
00:57:46,540 --> 00:57:50,880
but I think just really looking at what we're doing right now and then presenting that to you guys

756
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:56,640
of this is what's happening and then maybe from there we decide what should we do next but I think

757
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,640
this I don't want to put putting anything on the tell me Andrew to come to one of our meetings to do

758
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,700
But I think we have the energy in our group to go into this.

759
00:58:03,860 --> 00:58:08,800
So I think we're just so much to say you're okay to go look and

760
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,420
research the stuff for the town.

761
00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:11,520
I'm okay with that.

762
00:58:11,660 --> 00:58:14,000
Long as you go through manage a curb and he said, you know,

763
00:58:14,020 --> 00:58:15,780
says, yeah, this is okay or that's okay.

764
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,900
You can have access to that.

765
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,920
I think that would be more than fair.

766
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:20,580
Is that okay?

767
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,180
Nothing to lose.

768
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,680
I'm anxious to see it.

769
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,000
I think you guys have done good work.

770
00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:28,080
So I'm anxious to see that we, I've got a few calls about recycling.

771
00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:30,140
And we certainly know what's a hot topic right now.

772
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:36,220
So I think we need to at least look into it. So how's the clothes been doing? Oh, it's great.

773
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,520
I unfortunately have been out of touch with Joe to know but the last time it was like over two

774
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,380
I'm sure two the two tons or whatever it's doing great, but I just haven't been out today with it

775
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:55,380
But is it okay to ask if we have like a motion or something just like an official like to say this is what we're doing

776
00:58:55,380 --> 00:58:56,000
Absolutely.

777
00:58:56,260 --> 00:58:59,700
I will attempt to capture all of this in one motion.

778
00:59:01,060 --> 00:59:24,280
So I make a motion to charge the ERC committee with discussing or researching recycling, current recycling in our municipality and coordinate and directly with the manager for access to staff to discuss recycling within the community.

779
00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:29,260
Did you get all that record of my eyes?

780
00:59:29,620 --> 00:59:30,720
I'm going to come to repeat it.

781
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,700
Vice-chair layer, we made the motion.

782
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,560
It's like one Hawthorne made the second.

783
00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:37,580
Any further discussion?

784
00:59:38,620 --> 00:59:39,580
Does that cover what you need?

785
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,080
It does.

786
00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:42,220
I just had one clarifying question.

787
00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:45,960
If we wanted to like tour, like just as volunteers,

788
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,540
not on behalf of the town, are we allowed to tour like eco-mains

789
00:59:49,540 --> 00:59:52,740
or anybody else's facility and just see what their operation

790
00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:56,640
is not necessarily taking notes to present to you, but just know.

791
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,540
Leave you with them.

792
00:59:57,820 --> 00:59:58,040
Okay.

793
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,340
Oh, okay.

794
00:59:59,820 --> 00:59:59,980
I just...

795
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,580
All right.

796
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:10,620
That sounds very interesting to me. All right. I have a motion and second. All

797
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:16,100
those in favor. Opposed for zero. Thank you. I appreciate your work. Thank you. Yeah. I think it's

798
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:26,490
okay. One question. Well, we're talking about permissions. Back to the resiliency grant. Yeah. When

799
01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:33,450
And when we advertise the workshop on the website, we also have a flyer.

800
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:38,590
What's the policy about us putting the New Gloucester seal on the flyer?

801
01:00:41,210 --> 01:00:43,730
It's just speaking for myself, but it's the town committee.

802
01:00:43,970 --> 01:00:47,550
I don't think you're doing, it's for the ERC, the town committee.

803
01:00:47,590 --> 01:00:49,110
It's for the ERC and for the town.

804
01:00:49,250 --> 01:00:53,050
We just want to clarify that that would be okay to do, you know, there'd be any issues with that.

805
01:00:53,050 --> 01:00:58,630
the state seal for the partnership will be on there too, plus maybe the ERC we have a logo.

806
01:00:59,170 --> 01:01:03,370
I would assume it's a multi-town partnership, right?

807
01:01:04,030 --> 01:01:05,790
Well this would just be for the glossary.

808
01:01:05,790 --> 01:01:06,550
Oh yeah, okay.

809
01:01:06,970 --> 01:01:11,570
But it's in a, you know, we'd like to present it as official in the glossary.

810
01:01:11,850 --> 01:01:15,350
I manage the curve and so you can see any issue within. I'm okay with it.

811
01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:15,790
Okay.

812
01:01:15,930 --> 01:01:17,770
I get some nods over here. I think you all said okay.

813
01:01:17,890 --> 01:01:19,270
Could you share with us?

814
01:01:19,870 --> 01:01:21,190
Could you share that with us?

815
01:01:21,730 --> 01:01:23,850
Very, yeah, within a day.

816
01:01:24,190 --> 01:01:24,610
Perfect, Mark.

817
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:25,690
Thank you very much.

818
01:01:26,730 --> 01:01:28,030
You want me to send you the seal?

819
01:01:28,590 --> 01:01:29,150
Yes, could you?

820
01:01:29,810 --> 01:01:30,750
And I'll send it back.

821
01:01:32,070 --> 01:01:34,570
So, isn't there also a quiz attached to that?

822
01:01:34,690 --> 01:01:36,370
Or not a quiz, but a survey?

823
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:37,370
I sent.

824
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:42,690
I sent, I sent, uh, select Chair Braggden, a full copy,

825
01:01:42,730 --> 01:01:47,010
which apparently couldn't open and then a little abbreviated survey.

826
01:01:47,410 --> 01:01:47,630
Okay.

827
01:01:47,770 --> 01:01:49,290
I think I sent to the other board members,

828
01:01:49,290 --> 01:01:54,350
And that we're going to send around town to get the general feedback from the community.

829
01:01:54,670 --> 01:01:58,710
Is that something we can actually put on our website, a link to their survey?

830
01:01:59,170 --> 01:01:59,930
Yeah, absolutely.

831
01:02:00,310 --> 01:02:00,410
Okay.

832
01:02:01,070 --> 01:02:07,090
Just I just need the information to Sarah Rodriguez made the survey.

833
01:02:07,290 --> 01:02:11,090
So she can when she comes back, she can share that with you.

834
01:02:11,390 --> 01:02:11,670
Okay.

835
01:02:11,890 --> 01:02:12,590
I'll check with Sarah.

836
01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:12,970
Yeah.

837
01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:14,550
It's a Google survey.

838
01:02:14,930 --> 01:02:17,510
And then people can be directed to the website as well, too.

839
01:02:21,950 --> 01:02:22,750
Thank you.

840
01:02:23,010 --> 01:02:25,470
I'll try to open that file on a different computer.

841
01:02:25,630 --> 01:02:27,430
I think it was, I don't know if my computer didn't recognize.

842
01:02:28,850 --> 01:02:29,650
All right.

843
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:30,090
Thank you.

844
01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:31,630
All right.

845
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:32,490
2.20.

846
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:36,490
Adopted in the board and committee application process.

847
01:02:37,970 --> 01:02:40,110
So we've had a lot of submit it to us.

848
01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:41,310
We've had some public comment.

849
01:02:41,930 --> 01:02:43,450
We've worked on this for a while.

850
01:02:43,450 --> 01:02:48,830
So I see a couple of notes I found going over it.

851
01:02:49,010 --> 01:02:52,190
So what is the board's wishes do we want to...

852
01:02:53,050 --> 01:02:56,050
I am at the point where I take no action.

853
01:02:56,290 --> 01:02:57,350
I think it needs more work.

854
01:02:58,570 --> 01:02:59,810
I agree with that.

855
01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:02,390
I agree with some of the comments tonight too.

856
01:03:02,590 --> 01:03:02,770
Yeah.

857
01:03:03,110 --> 01:03:04,450
A lot of good comments made.

858
01:03:05,890 --> 01:03:10,930
This is kind of Mr. Ward's baby, and I really don't want to mess with it without him.

859
01:03:11,230 --> 01:03:11,470
I agree.

860
01:03:11,950 --> 01:03:13,150
A lot of work's going into it.

861
01:03:13,150 --> 01:03:16,470
Certainly, we need to give kudos to Mr. Ward on this.

862
01:03:16,510 --> 01:03:18,190
He does a lot of work and he worked at workshops.

863
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:22,410
So, he'll, I'm sure he'll watch your meeting,

864
01:03:22,590 --> 01:03:24,030
if he's not watching right now, honestly.

865
01:03:25,130 --> 01:03:27,790
He'll make these notes and I think we'll regroup on it.

866
01:03:27,830 --> 01:03:28,930
Yeah, good with that.

867
01:03:29,170 --> 01:03:30,670
Yeah, but I think that sounds great.

868
01:03:31,710 --> 01:03:35,470
All right, 2.2 on adopted in the board in committee meeting.

869
01:03:36,190 --> 01:03:37,990
Adopted in the schedule of boards in committee meetings.

870
01:03:39,650 --> 01:03:42,150
Up to you guys, obviously, what you want to do on this.

871
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:44,910
One of the things we talked about when we were going through the board and committee

872
01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:51,570
bylaws in the application process is that we wanted it used to be this way we wanted committee

873
01:03:51,570 --> 01:03:55,270
meetings to be on the same day of every month the same time.

874
01:03:56,470 --> 01:04:02,030
I went through with the helper of a court of Myers and tried to put where stuff normally

875
01:04:02,030 --> 01:04:02,470
is.

876
01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:06,530
There's a few committees that don't have normal dates and kind of put it out in front of you.

877
01:04:06,530 --> 01:04:12,530
what the next step and what you want to do is totally up to you. I have a couple of comments

878
01:04:12,530 --> 01:04:13,230
but I will wait.

879
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:20,460
So one thing that's not listed on here though is is the budget committee

880
01:04:21,020 --> 01:04:25,340
and that's seasonal. True. But I'm wondering if that should be added there. Yeah. Good

881
01:04:25,340 --> 01:04:28,160
because CIP, too. Yeah. CIP and budget. Yeah.

882
01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:32,550
CIP and budget. Yeah. And they are seasonal.

883
01:04:32,830 --> 01:04:36,370
So yes. Yeah. That may be hard to put them on certain dates but they should be listed

884
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:48,270
I think we need to discuss what's televised and what's not televised.

885
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:52,510
You know, like I think production rack, I'm not 100% sure what the role is.

886
01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:53,490
I'm not saying that in a bad way.

887
01:04:53,830 --> 01:04:56,750
But I think that's an important committee and I'd like to see maybe that televised.

888
01:04:56,890 --> 01:04:58,830
I know they meet at 530 at the community building.

889
01:05:00,790 --> 01:05:04,270
That was the only thing I was not knowing any other ones that maybe not televised.

890
01:05:04,270 --> 01:05:09,570
what's the standard on that, because we say that they should be televised if possible.

891
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:15,890
And then, like land management committee, they have been all over the place, but I think

892
01:05:15,890 --> 01:05:18,630
Charlene said that they originally set for the fourth Thursday.

893
01:05:18,770 --> 01:05:19,810
No, fourth Wednesday.

894
01:05:20,070 --> 01:05:20,770
Fourth Wednesday.

895
01:05:21,370 --> 01:05:22,570
Fourth Wednesday, okay.

896
01:05:23,610 --> 01:05:30,130
And community fear, candidate referendum committee and cable television committee, those are kind

897
01:05:30,130 --> 01:05:34,890
a sporadic meeting so that was kind of hard to pick down.

898
01:05:35,210 --> 01:05:37,330
So LNPC meets on Wednesdays?

899
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:38,790
Second Wednesday.

900
01:05:38,890 --> 01:05:40,290
The last Wednesday of the month.

901
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:41,210
Fourth Wednesday of the month.

902
01:05:41,390 --> 01:05:41,570
Fourth Wednesday of the month.

903
01:05:41,570 --> 01:05:41,730
Okay.

904
01:05:42,010 --> 01:05:43,650
So that needs to be changed on this as well.

905
01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:44,890
I thought you said there was there probably.

906
01:05:45,250 --> 01:05:45,630
No Wednesday.

907
01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:46,550
Okay.

908
01:05:47,310 --> 01:05:48,110
Fourth Wednesday.

909
01:05:48,450 --> 01:05:49,850
Do they only meet once a month or?

910
01:05:49,970 --> 01:05:50,530
Once a month.

911
01:05:50,730 --> 01:05:52,430
I know.

912
01:05:52,730 --> 01:05:54,510
Look at the calendar, they've kind of been.

913
01:05:57,330 --> 01:05:59,330
So we need to do CIP budget.

914
01:05:59,990 --> 01:06:01,710
They've had some holidays fall in there.

915
01:06:01,710 --> 01:06:04,530
Yeah, yeah, LNPC is the fourth Wednesday.

916
01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:11,940
Anything else we need to, you know,

917
01:06:12,060 --> 01:06:18,300
far as televising, I feel that any budgeted like recreation,

918
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:21,900
we give them a budget that, and if they're expending,

919
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,300
money out of that, it should be visual to the citizen.

920
01:06:27,420 --> 01:06:31,120
And kind of the same applies to those who are making policy

921
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,820
or ordinance, same thing, it needs to be public.

922
01:06:34,820 --> 01:06:35,540
Look at my eyes.

923
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,120
And there's a lot of interest impacts in the wreck also,

924
01:06:41,220 --> 01:06:42,800
so I think it's important to get it out there.

925
01:06:46,670 --> 01:06:49,470
I don't know how we would direct a change at,

926
01:06:49,710 --> 01:06:51,350
but we could do that by home means.

927
01:06:51,570 --> 01:06:51,790
I'm sure.

928
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:54,510
So what's the board's wishes?

929
01:06:54,730 --> 01:06:58,010
How do we do we want to reach out to committees

930
01:06:58,010 --> 01:07:00,290
for input or where they think would fit best?

931
01:07:00,970 --> 01:07:04,950
Or do we want to go back to the drawing board?

932
01:07:09,110 --> 01:07:12,310
Has any of the committees reviewed this?

933
01:07:12,310 --> 01:07:14,330
have we asked for their input?

934
01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:16,870
I did not do any of that in one.

935
01:07:18,490 --> 01:07:19,810
Do more than I so still.

936
01:07:20,350 --> 01:07:20,550
Yeah.

937
01:07:24,660 --> 01:07:27,840
Yeah, no, I appreciate that.

938
01:07:29,180 --> 01:07:31,080
Maybe that would be the next step as we,

939
01:07:31,620 --> 01:07:34,760
the chairs of the committees, you know, have that.

940
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,320
Before we put this in stone,

941
01:07:37,580 --> 01:07:40,060
send it out and say, hey, what's your thought process on this?

942
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:41,700
And I don't disagree with you.

943
01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:47,660
So I actually like the idea of potentially televising the committee as well.

944
01:07:49,380 --> 01:07:55,140
I liaison with these committees that are typically televised, you know.

945
01:07:55,380 --> 01:08:05,400
So maybe in that we could ask a passionate committee if they could find a time that they could use the meathouse so we could, that would also, I'm not sure what Mr.

946
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:11,400
Bowie's

947
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:17,600
listed the ERC, Parks and Rec, right now, Parks and Rec, ERC,

948
01:08:19,690 --> 01:08:23,070
Community Fair, and candidates

949
01:08:23,070 --> 01:08:26,370
are the four that are not televised, all the others are televised.

950
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:30,790
Candidates is for the forum, but they've been meeting at the library.

951
01:08:34,270 --> 01:08:38,410
Community Fair, sometimes we meet it or a lot in the summer, we meet at the fairgrounds.

952
01:08:38,690 --> 01:08:42,270
So does Parks and Rec, doesn't mean we can't change if we have to.

953
01:08:42,270 --> 01:08:45,110
So what's the board's wishes?

954
01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:50,770
Right now we're just talking about this, not the televised, right, or we're piecing

955
01:08:50,770 --> 01:08:51,210
it together.

956
01:08:51,330 --> 01:08:53,570
We're kind of piecing together, but whichever way you want to go with it.

957
01:08:54,690 --> 01:08:59,270
I just like the idea of it going to the chairs of the committees for discussion on the dates.

958
01:08:59,590 --> 01:09:00,230
You know what I mean?

959
01:09:00,470 --> 01:09:00,630
Right.

960
01:09:01,130 --> 01:09:05,850
And I'm just going to say this again, I know it's in the past, but I truly believe the Public

961
01:09:05,850 --> 01:09:10,770
Safety Committee should be an in-house committee that is the town manager of the Public Works

962
01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:16,910
Director and the fire chief and anybody, other staff needed for that.

963
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:19,090
But I feel like that should be an in-house committee.

964
01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:20,610
I still feel that way.

965
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,740
Let me talk about agenda items for next meeting.

966
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,700
That was one that's potentially on there, discussing committee rules.

967
01:09:30,740 --> 01:09:35,800
All right, so we know we want to send it to board chairs and

968
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,640
ask them for their input or committees or board chairs as I so.

969
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:46,500
And we want to ask Prox and Rec if they can try to find a time that can work in the community building. I mean the meeting house.

970
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:54,080
I don't. I'm just going to ask this. Why just them if there's four that aren't televised.

971
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:59,020
I'm just asking the. Well for me recreational has a budget. We give them money. Right.

972
01:09:59,340 --> 01:10:06,580
And they right now they're not on camera show one how they're spending it. EIC. We do not give the money. We just give them permission to.

973
01:10:06,580 --> 01:10:07,800
typically have a little bit of blood.

974
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:09,360
The ERC is a budget.

975
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,280
Yeah, it's like 1,000, 1,000.

976
01:10:12,940 --> 01:10:14,100
It's very interesting.

977
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:17,080
I think it's just very interesting work, you know what I mean?

978
01:10:17,260 --> 01:10:19,940
I think it's worth spreading the word.

979
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,340
I guess is what I would say with that.

980
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,020
I wouldn't disagree, 200,000.

981
01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:26,440
I don't want to minimize that, but the threshold,

982
01:10:26,740 --> 01:10:30,360
I mean, we're talking 30,000, 1,000.

983
01:10:30,500 --> 01:10:34,500
So I guess anything that seeds X amount should be televised.

984
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:44,100
There's also a staff member that committees work in with a lot with the recreation director, so that's a fair point.

985
01:10:45,740 --> 01:10:50,800
All right, so we've got those a couple of items. What else do we want to add or director?

986
01:10:54,970 --> 01:10:57,110
And then just update the CIP budget.

987
01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:59,030
Yeah, no seasonal.

988
01:10:59,730 --> 01:11:03,430
LNPC. All right. We good with it?

989
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:04,870
I'm good. Do we need a motion?

990
01:11:05,230 --> 01:11:05,950
That will be so.

991
01:11:06,270 --> 01:11:06,710
Yeah, all right.

992
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:09,130
And we'll get this back for approval.

993
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:10,930
One set, all that comes back.

994
01:11:11,710 --> 01:11:14,610
You know, probably give them a couple of weeks to respond anyway.

995
01:11:14,910 --> 01:11:16,050
Do you want me to send that out?

996
01:11:16,430 --> 01:11:17,570
How many of you are sending that out?

997
01:11:18,330 --> 01:11:19,250
That's up to you guys.

998
01:11:19,390 --> 01:11:20,070
How do you want to work?

999
01:11:20,230 --> 01:11:20,890
We'll talk about it.

1000
01:11:21,050 --> 01:11:22,410
Yeah. How do you guys want to work that out?

1001
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:23,150
That is up to you.

1002
01:11:23,170 --> 01:11:23,390
All right.

1003
01:11:24,370 --> 01:11:25,770
All right. Moving right along.

1004
01:11:27,190 --> 01:11:30,250
Consideration of town manager goals in the work plan.

1005
01:11:30,810 --> 01:11:35,050
So we have that. We had asked Manager Kerbin last time.

1006
01:11:37,330 --> 01:11:38,790
I think you've recommended putting

1007
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:42,050
together some stuff. Number two, we can take off. Yeah, I'm going to say someone right

1008
01:11:42,050 --> 01:11:49,510
now. That's right. We can. Look at that. So anything you'd like to say, Manager Kerbin?

1009
01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:56,970
So in addition to the sixth set and just to review those, just for the public here and for

1010
01:11:56,970 --> 01:12:03,090
the board as well. We include the upper village deed, the library roof, which has been completed,

1011
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:11,070
the website, the IT position, adding that, the coming year, hiring of a fire chief,

1012
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:19,990
the administrative code, the charter. And then I added three more that I thought may be

1013
01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:25,810
with your approval that may be worthy to look into, which I think are probably very important.

1014
01:12:25,810 --> 01:12:33,830
and a transfer station safety plan, upgrading a plan for the town buildings and then personal policy review.

1015
01:12:35,050 --> 01:12:43,590
And then I also included one more thing that I thought might be good as well that I did not have on this list,

1016
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:49,150
was developing an ARPA infrastructure act list of potential projects.

1017
01:12:55,860 --> 01:13:02,270
I think they're all good to me. I think if the manager wants to keep working on them.

1018
01:13:09,470 --> 01:13:18,270
If that's what he wishes to do, I'm all for it. I will tell you that I am not a fan of the transfer safety issue.

1019
01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:23,790
And if I was the upper fund, we don't have much money left, so that's not a big priority to me.

1020
01:13:23,790 --> 01:13:28,790
We do have a small list, it's

1021
01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:34,940
like Board Member Ward has kind of kept track of that for

1022
01:13:34,940 --> 01:13:35,480
the board.

1023
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,960
He's kind of crazily taking that on for us.

1024
01:13:41,140 --> 01:13:46,440
Were you thinking of more of a way to adopt the offer, to have it spend the money?

1025
01:13:46,940 --> 01:13:47,360
Exactly.

1026
01:13:47,980 --> 01:13:53,960
It kind of provides you with a list of potential projects working with the department

1027
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,920
had something to submit to you that you would have a potential plan that you

1028
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,980
want to go ahead and adopt it if not but something I think they give you some you

1029
01:14:01,980 --> 01:14:05,900
know I have to do some dig and I think we had a report from department heads

1030
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:11,340
under a manager liendez and correct on that that's correct yeah I don't remember all

1031
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:16,640
them on the head off top ahead I think we pulled a couple out and we chose to work

1032
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:21,720
towards them some of them were like the fire restoration tools I believe might

1033
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,920
have been on it was something along that line or life pack or sorry if I'm

1034
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,580
speaking speaking but um so honestly I don't know if there's a lot to do there

1035
01:14:30,580 --> 01:14:33,800
it would be interesting to know how we decide what we're going to find with a

1036
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,480
little bit of money we have left I'm not against that you know what would be a

1037
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:40,840
priority and what wouldn't but what's the cost of the note house at the fair

1038
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,640
grounds right yeah any

1039
01:14:47,170 --> 01:14:54,160
other input of thoughts hopefully the deed issue is our last

1040
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:59,760
Update from planner Thompson about that was that it should be in the world. I think it was signed, but there's a technical

1041
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,200
We're signed back in August, but there's a technicality of something, and I'm not sure if that had been followed up on that night.

1042
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:26,480
She had mentioned at a meeting that she found an email that it was signed in August, but there was one more. Is that the, is that the deed? Had to be signed by the governor. Working with the state. We have that. It has been sent to the registry to be filed. Excellent. Excellent. Cross that one up. Hey. Good job.

1043
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:34,540
She said it last week and there's everything and we have a map there's a map with that but yeah, she got it and she's

1044
01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:37,020
to give it to me and I sent it to the registry this week.

1045
01:15:37,700 --> 01:15:38,160
Excellent.

1046
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,760
That's a big, we really need that for we can move much further.

1047
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:53,390
So to branch off Mr. Hath on the transfer station safety plan, we're putting away money for this but I don't

1048
01:15:53,390 --> 01:16:01,270
I think we really have a goal, so that would be if we're going to put away money, and I think this year they're asking for 125,000, excuse me, what is the goal?

1049
01:16:02,130 --> 01:16:06,330
What is the end game, would be my only question on that? I don't know what the board wishes for.

1050
01:16:06,470 --> 01:16:14,350
So for me, I know we did a big study years ago, but it was quite a cost to engineer that.

1051
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:19,330
I don't think that we need to engineer it to those specifications.

1052
01:16:19,330 --> 01:16:24,850
I think we as a board have discussed, there's probably some very simple fixes.

1053
01:16:26,770 --> 01:16:33,170
I would entertain you looking further into the possibility of one of the comments was

1054
01:16:33,170 --> 01:16:38,790
redirecting the traffic, the way the traffic flow goes, moving the recycling from where

1055
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:40,630
it is to down lower.

1056
01:16:41,170 --> 01:16:45,150
But, or just, I mean, just really just change in the traffic pattern, I think would...

1057
01:16:45,150 --> 01:16:46,510
Right, it could be some kind of...

1058
01:16:46,510 --> 01:16:47,650
I would be...

1059
01:16:47,650 --> 01:16:49,430
Okay, well, I definitely agree we don't need to engineer.

1060
01:16:49,870 --> 01:16:49,990
No.

1061
01:16:50,290 --> 01:16:54,670
No, so I would entertain talking to our staff there

1062
01:16:54,670 --> 01:16:57,550
and finding out because I'm pretty sure they could

1063
01:16:57,550 --> 01:16:59,070
probably tell you a cheap way to fix it.

1064
01:16:59,950 --> 01:17:03,090
Right, I'm not thinking of a $50,000 study day.

1065
01:17:03,190 --> 01:17:05,730
No, and I think if you have money already in the funds,

1066
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:08,310
then maybe that's a CIP next year

1067
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:10,210
and we can move forward with making some changes.

1068
01:17:10,450 --> 01:17:12,710
Sure, and if you'd like, I can like just defer that

1069
01:17:12,710 --> 01:17:14,430
till next year, I could take that off.

1070
01:17:15,070 --> 01:17:16,930
Now, I think it's okay.

1071
01:17:16,930 --> 01:17:34,790
I think honestly this will go hand in hand with working on the recycling because if we end up making modifications to how we're recycling, I hate to restructure now without a plan for the recycling.

1072
01:17:36,190 --> 01:17:42,370
My understanding also with the transfer station, the reserve account related to the transfer

1073
01:17:42,370 --> 01:17:50,950
station, is that can also be used for a repave on that as well, which is I'm going to say

1074
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:54,130
it's going to be desperately needed at some point soon here in the future.

1075
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:57,130
And you can't just pave it, you're going to end up grinding.

1076
01:17:58,990 --> 01:18:01,150
So that's part of this as well.

1077
01:18:01,150 --> 01:18:06,650
But I don't want to repay them, unless we know what we're recycling and how we're doing it.

1078
01:18:06,670 --> 01:18:10,090
And I think this fits with what ERC is going to be working on.

1079
01:18:11,170 --> 01:18:15,150
So I wouldn't defer it, I would work in conjunction with that.

1080
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,120
Is that okay at that level?

1081
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:22,700
Well, I think it could be chipped away at.

1082
01:18:22,780 --> 01:18:30,020
I mean, if there's no need to change the way the entrance is or whatever, any of that stuff,

1083
01:18:30,020 --> 01:18:37,400
and we can move forward with paving say next year then that's one thing less that you know what I mean so yes we do stuff let's do it but

1084
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:46,500
I'm just he's a new guy in the block we got lots of issues that need to be addressed this is not high on the priority list is all I'm saying

1085
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:58,780
I know in your mind it's not but it was engineered you know it was done that it was done several years ago no money was ever put aside for it so there is a need and I do think there is a safety issue

1086
01:18:58,780 --> 01:19:02,780
and I think that, for me, that would make it important.

1087
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,060
I think way back in 2008, honestly,

1088
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,800
it was when it started, something with an insurance company and a study.

1089
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:11,120
I'd also be curious, because maybe it was discussed in CIP,

1090
01:19:11,300 --> 01:19:11,940
and I didn't see it.

1091
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:15,480
Director Shane,

1092
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,340
fellow work director Shane is asking for money if he put away.

1093
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,820
I don't know what the grand plan is,

1094
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,980
so he may have something too that you can work off,

1095
01:19:23,140 --> 01:19:25,420
but I'd be interested to see a little bit of it,

1096
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,800
but I don't disagree with Mr. Hall.

1097
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:32,040
I mean, the loader going back and forth while people are pulling in is definitely a safety

1098
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:32,380
issue.

1099
01:19:32,620 --> 01:19:33,720
So moving the recycling.

1100
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,780
And I think we could make some changes really leading up to big changes.

1101
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:38,200
Agreed.

1102
01:19:39,220 --> 01:19:40,020
All right.

1103
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,820
So do we want to adopt these goals with a motion or just, you know, say they're good and

1104
01:19:44,820 --> 01:19:45,640
give them a blessing?

1105
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,920
I don't think we need any motions.

1106
01:19:47,140 --> 01:19:47,580
Just a boss.

1107
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,320
Keep up the good work.

1108
01:19:49,340 --> 01:19:50,260
You've done good so far.

1109
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:51,020
So thank you.

1110
01:19:51,140 --> 01:19:52,360
You've already gotten too off you list.

1111
01:19:52,860 --> 01:19:53,340
That's right.

1112
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:54,460
All right.

1113
01:19:54,460 --> 01:20:02,360
2.23. Approve in the 2023 town holiday schedule. This is something we do each year.

1114
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:11,120
So the holidays that are coordinated personnel policy and that we've added Juneteenth on

1115
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:17,460
there also. It's quite a task to put this together, balancing holidays, what days they fit

1116
01:20:17,460 --> 01:20:21,820
on, what departments are open and all that. So we thank Charlene for that. Any discussion

1117
01:20:21,820 --> 01:20:23,440
or I'll take a motion if we're ready.

1118
01:20:23,660 --> 01:20:24,380
Motion will approve.

1119
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:25,480
Here's a second.

1120
01:20:27,740 --> 01:20:28,960
Oh, second, sorry.

1121
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:29,480
I have a motion.

1122
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,760
I've also a second, vice chair,

1123
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,320
a layer B to approve the 2023

1124
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,660
town of Boston holiday schedule for the discussion.

1125
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:40,180
All those in favor, opposed, carries for zero.

1126
01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:44,330
2.24, approve in the 2023

1127
01:20:44,330 --> 01:20:46,370
select board meeting schedule.

1128
01:20:47,370 --> 01:20:49,350
Again, technicality we do every year.

1129
01:20:49,570 --> 01:20:51,670
I could always be changed, but this is a guide we go by.

1130
01:20:51,670 --> 01:20:53,990
They can entertain a motion if we're ready.

1131
01:20:54,170 --> 01:20:56,490
Motion to accept is a working forecast.

1132
01:20:57,050 --> 01:20:58,350
All right, do we have a second?

1133
01:20:58,690 --> 01:20:59,110
A second.

1134
01:20:59,510 --> 01:21:02,110
All right, I have a motion to accept this as a work

1135
01:21:02,110 --> 01:21:04,030
and forecast of our meetings for 2023.

1136
01:21:04,030 --> 01:21:04,950
I have a second.

1137
01:21:05,050 --> 01:21:06,630
I was made by Hawthorne Second by Donovan

1138
01:21:06,630 --> 01:21:07,450
for the discussion.

1139
01:21:08,030 --> 01:21:08,930
All those in favor?

1140
01:21:09,650 --> 01:21:10,510
For zero.

1141
01:21:12,030 --> 01:21:13,730
Next item, real quick.

1142
01:21:14,650 --> 01:21:17,370
What items, anything you'd like to throw out there

1143
01:21:17,370 --> 01:21:19,370
for the next agenda or future agendas

1144
01:21:19,370 --> 01:21:25,590
Or that you'd like added coming down. I do have in the next agenda committee roles and assignments

1145
01:21:26,430 --> 01:21:29,210
I know that was a topic that was asked for

1146
01:21:29,210 --> 01:21:35,930
Is there anything else anybody would like to request or topics or anything we can always add more later

1147
01:21:35,930 --> 01:21:40,330
But this is a time to if anybody has anything you all set Mr. Hawthorne

1148
01:21:40,330 --> 01:21:43,490
You guys have anything off top the head

1149
01:21:44,010 --> 01:21:53,990
I'm good right now, all right easy enough. I'll take a motion go to your motion to adjourn have a motion by half one we'll have a second second all right. It is

1150
01:21:54,570 --> 01:22:02,750
8.23 p.m. All those in favor. I'll post the carries for zero. Thank you, Mark. Thank you everybody