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Go ahead.

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Oh, sorry. I forgot about that.

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All right, at 7 o'clock, we'll call the August 17,

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I think in 2006, we have City Council meeting in order.

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We'll have roll call.

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Spell.

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Here.

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Okay.

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Dinner.

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Here.

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Careful.

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Larson.

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Here.

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Mugarak.

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Here.

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Shrekrat.

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Here.

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All right.

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We have a form.

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Item A is to approve the consent agenda.

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Just the agenda.

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other members of the agenda.

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I will do approval of the agenda.

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Okay, I have more for the agenda.

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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We have an agenda item B to approve the consent agenda.

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I want to do approval of the consent agenda.

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I have more for the consent agenda.

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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We have a motion carried item C as public comment.

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Seeing none, then we'll move to item B.

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Third and final reading for the chapter 77,

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Personal Transportation and Device Discussion.

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Yeah, and this is a third reading, and we have any discussion on any more changes.

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I'm very happy that this is my turn, because I just thought that somebody out in Hamilton

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coming to our yield sign, you know, he's got two rows on it, he's with it.

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You watch.

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So, what's going to happen to that?

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You like?

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your

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phone.

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We prefer it that way.

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If there's no discussion on motion to approve.

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We have motion to approve the final third reading for the ordinance on

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remaining the chapter 77 personal transportation device roll call.

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Spelt.

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Aye.

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Dinner.

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Aye.

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Careful.

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Larson.

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McGrath.

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Aye.

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Sure, Grant.

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Aye.

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The ordinance was approved in 9-04.

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Thanks for all the input and the labor that went into the meeting and everybody that put their

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comments and I appreciate it. And just a note of a technical issue it doesn't

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become law until it's published. So I'll try and get it in if we can. Okay

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that it's published Thursday. Okay then it will be law Thursday.

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And the next thing we'll work on is getting education. Yeah. Okay. And I think

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publication of the last life changes means internet too, it's Facebook. Social media, you mean?

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Well, the maintained official website, which, you know, we have all the code

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in North is there. I think they changed as of July, but was for like publications, paper,

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Internet sites, Internet and posting, or bulletin.

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Okay, very good. I'll double check that.

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So you don't have to board, but you should have a copy available at the counter.

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So it's going to be kind of professional like tomorrow?

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No.

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President, I'll pass it.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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When's your next, when's your first day?

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First day.

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When the paper hits the new stands on Thursday.

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I'll send it to you here okay thank you all right I'll send my digital

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Happy.

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Item E.

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Thank you.

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The City of Streets Finance report.

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Manual report.

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I prepare a beer.

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If you look at it, you can see that they want

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funds reported regardless of the

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fund it in, whether it's debt service,

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capital projects, so just summarizes the activity.

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all these numbers will directly tie back to the AFR and so it all matches out

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and VOT just requires a resolution from the council and then I will forward it

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to them.

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Then

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it'll move on to financial report.

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We're going to have a second.

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We'll have approval.

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Spelt.

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Aye.

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Dinner.

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Kiffel.

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Larson.

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McGraw.

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Sugar.

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Aye.

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Resolution 6, 8, 5, 7 of the doctrine.

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Item F, Microsoft parking lot, change order number 1.

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before eight o'clock tonight, we have a change order.

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We had some issues, I think, prior to seeing

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we were in a much activity, the parking lot

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over the last few weeks, there's issues with the soils.

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So, with that being said, the contractors and engineers

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and then working closely to figure out alternative options,

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ultimately, we'll be pouring out of the large section

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and bringing in rock.

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We'll also be adding some additional subterranean.

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So, with that, there's a change,

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or before you get any of 26,965 dollars, so just asking for your guys is blessing to approve this, so we can probably move forward, so I'll make sure we can find it right, so

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So, this is now put in the room and open, no, this is additional, and again, no idea that we're going to have these soil issues.

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We really have to core it out just because it has a diaper in there and it's working, and Trump's rescuing it.

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The soil is like very spongy, it's just not good.

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We don't know where the soil or the tissue came from, but we'll know what we're doing there in the past.

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That's the old sky cream that's sitting on the soil? Under town essentially, yeah.

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There's more in the middle of it, but just top it.

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That's the ginkgo, but they can knock it under it, so.

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So we did it.

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So we did it.

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Sure, yeah.

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Shrek Radmoo's resolution 6858, except we changed order number one with Jerry Tank Masonry

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in the amount of $26,965 to approve the resolution 6858 for the work order King's order

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number one on the roll call. Spells? Aye. Dinner? Aye. Kiple? Aye.

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Morrison.

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Aye.

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McGrath.

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Aye.

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Sugar.

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Aye.

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Resolution 6858 is adopted.

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Item G.

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Migrants from Parking Lab.

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Pay request number one.

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The amount of $30,420 to $18 cents.

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The interest is just essentially to pay for the workings of the material.

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So, this really has been looking at material with a fairly paper work, to this point,

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the RAM, the 3D, to what was been done, is kosher, so we read that, and that can be counted

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for $30,420.00 for each of the sends.

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I'm new to this, because it's time and practice, but they talk about it as work as a scope

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of work.

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30%.

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Every so often you can say what's the time.

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I didn't have a question on the five, four years, two years, is that how you deal?

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It's not a big deal for a part of the mod if it was more of a straight project it would be, but is there a reason they went from $400 to $2?

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We've already approved it as a council to allow that, that happened two months ago or a month ago, but I can't really explain why that company couldn't get a 4-year list.

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Yeah, I buy experiences through graduates in the chair that's made to see it on the only

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trial or just was my representative on that one trying to slow it by the bottom of it.

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Like, he just told me that he's like, hey, I didn't get you anything more than just a two

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year.

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So, that wasn't what I came up with, so I'm not sure, but we worked it out with students.

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And there was a reduction on the overall issues that should show up in the first two years on it.

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Even assuming so, yes.

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But again, that's why we're also having stranded onsite to inspect things along the way.

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We also had tarot con, even as part of this,

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we made that tarot con higher down to also lose

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the inspection, so that's the regression stuff early on,

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so hopefully we can prevent it from going on.

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We'll test the answer to your questions now.

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Almost all project savings got paid request the other day

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from the plastic floor to the water meter rated.

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Pay for material just because cost material is part of it.

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So you'll have that for everyone in the objects even if the next one made our pay request for the OSIC

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I'll move that resolution number 1659 resolution approving pay request number one

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288.8.8.8.8. I'll see the amount of 30,422.8. So it will be approved.

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I'll second.

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We have a motion to approve resolution 6859 for payment request number one for this

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Michael some parking lots.

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What I wrote all.

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Spelt?

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I.

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Dinner.

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I.

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Giffel.

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I.

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Larson.

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I.

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Migrat.

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I.

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Shookrat.

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The resolution is 6.8, 5.9 is adopted. Item 8. West Garfield's street extension pay request number 1.

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December, what we just talked about with this project, we paid a request of $250,000 and $240,000 in any buy-assence.

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Mainly in large part due to the back cohort that was put in place two weeks ago, so they're continuing to move forward.

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We've rest of the stormwater infrastructure was delivered today, so that project is continuing forward.

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I know they have a anticipated completion date of end of September, first part of October.

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So if they have paid in plan for the first or second week of September, so we'll finish the movement.

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You have motion second to approve resolution 6860 for the first pay request for the Garfield

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extension. What's called? Spelts.

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Dinner. Aye.

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Kiffel. Aye.

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Larson. Aye.

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Lugra. Aye.

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Shripra. Aye.

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Resolution 686-0 is adopted.

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Item 5. Logan Street, Cleveland Street.

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Reconstruction task order 26 days, 0-3.

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So

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I guess before us tonight we do have a task order from the stream, this is for the technical service, the side of things for this project.

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We're now getting into the construction phase. We originally had the task order number two was for the design.

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how that we approved the project before we approved the contract through the bid.

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We're now entering into the construction phase of the engineering.

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So that's what they got before us tonight is they've been into that.

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That's in the lunch sum of $125.

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Hi, some of the resolutions to state 6-1.

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The president has quarter, 26-03.

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Our Logan Street, Cleveland Street,

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We have a motion in second to approve resolution six eight six one

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roll call. Spelt, aye. Dinner. Aye. Kifl. Aye. Larson. Aye. Move your rat. Stroke rat, aye.

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The red lurking 6-8-6-1 is adopted.

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Item Gay, Terracon Proposal and Agreement for observations and material testing for

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Logan and Cleveland Street reconstruction projects.

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So before you, we have the proposal for Terracon.

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This is to allow them to continue testing throughout the duration of this project for Logan

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and Cleveland. And we kind of discussed the other various projects, especially with the parking lot.

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There's a lot of fun and proceed on knowing things. This will allow them just to test all the

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soils to ensure as we're going to the project that we need to bring in more rock, change the soil

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to the beneath wherever we need to do. This will allow us to have a testing done. Do you have

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Bryce here from Spain as well, do you have anything else to really take you back on with

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that way to fail to me?

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Isn't that something that's strange?

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Isn't Chargon?

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Is the project making sure of these?

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Correct?

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Like, I had a time.

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Chargon, they are the geotech engineers.

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They would be the expert group, come to the soil, and we're off to this.

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Give us recommendations.

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So what's on my mind is when we get these bids and they come in under several thousand dollars under what we

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can grant proposals, then all of a sudden we start getting these additions of 48,000, 35,000 on these different things.

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I mean, isn't there a way now we're in the project?

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Is there a way in the future that those things can be presented to the council along with what it's going to cost us?

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I mean, I would probably like to see that as well. I mean, I know that was something that he didn't include on top of the bench.

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I guess I didn't know that I'm kind of going through this thing as you guys now do.

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um, you know, essentially, Mitch said that, you know, he's a strange friend.

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He's been here in the earlier meetings.

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Um, he stated that, you know, he could have had tarot comms bit as part of that.

252
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And I kind of encourage that being the case moving forward because I just, you know, I did

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not know this cost, just, you know, a whole lot of those going to be after the fact, um,

254
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So, yeah, I'd like to see any further as well.

255
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But my issue is, Terrakon's already done coring in various locations along that, which

256
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should have a pretty good idea of what the soil looks like.

257
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And strain is in charge making sure the work works being done correctly.

258
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I personally have a hard time making thousands or that that's just my opinion.

259
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Is

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that not to exceed price that if it doesn't cost?

261
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I read the bill was attached and it couldn't be hired depending on how many tests they have to do.

262
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It's

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an estimate.

264
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It's a fine print.

265
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You can go back and say that's exceeding.

266
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Come to console again.

267
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Another $20,000 for the conditional board.

268
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You see, do you remember what the total cost for those that whole project was?

269
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It was like $3,000,000, $3,000,000, $167,000 or something like that.

270
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Okay.

271
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It was just I had $3,000,000.

272
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But the engineers estimate was like $4.2, $4.1,000 on there.

273
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I guess my thought is $50,000 to make sure that a $3,000,000 product is done correctly is worth it to me.

274
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especially when it came under. That's not tough.

275
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We don't know so dark. We're already running the same issue over here.

276
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We can't control this whole entire town.

277
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It still comes from around pretty much.

278
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So, what was the point of paying for all the quarry and stuff initially?

279
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That's the end of it all with a different point.

280
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No, there was some stuff that I don't remember well.

281
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Do you know what the initial stuff was?

282
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The initial quarry would just be part of

283
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for when the contractor business project

284
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you kind of idea what to do with it, so that's

285
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what the core of the street is looking for.

286
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I can tell you from a personal standpoint,

287
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I was not in committee when the event center

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was built 20 years, 25 years ago, whatever that was.

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And I was also on the building committee

290
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when the fire station was built.

291
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And both projects, they had to come back in and do testing

292
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after they originally did the thing because of what they found under the, under the, where

293
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the building was going to go. So you just, you don't know, there's a foundation at the

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fire station and up here there was, there was a, at the event center, there was a shingles underneath

295
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where the railroad had their rails and that's, so the shingles had to be put down 100 years

296
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ago. You know, so just something that you got to get a good base to start building on.

297
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You know, I'm a person on this. I understand what we're saying to get a big project.

298
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This is like less than one of the center of the project. But in the future, it would be nice to say,

299
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we kind of want to know if we've got to go back in and do 10 more boards or something like that.

300
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So we don't celebrate pulling way under on our price.

301
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I'm from back.

302
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Can you give me a hand?

303
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No, I understand the needs.

304
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I mean, that was a conversation that Mitch had with us

305
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when he submitted this over on Thursday last week.

306
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He said, you know, in the future,

307
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those letters included with the actual bid

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make the responsibility of the contractors

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as part of their bid to have this

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so it's included in that additional price.

311
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So that's something good to talk about.

312
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Is this only for how much?

313
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So I'll make a motion through through resolution number 6862 for mid-street

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agreement with the chaircon for the 11th street Cleveland street extension

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project for construction and conservation and material testing services to be approved.

316
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We have a motion of second to approve resolution 6-8-6-2, roll call.

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Spells.

318
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Aye.

319
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Denner.

320
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,120
Aye.

321
00:22:27,620 --> 00:22:27,980
Kiple.

322
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,520
Aye.

323
00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:29,320
Larson.

324
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:29,940
Aye.

325
00:22:30,620 --> 00:22:30,920
McGrat.

326
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Nay.

327
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Sugar.

328
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Aye.

329
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Resolution 6-8-6-2 is adopted.

330
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Item K.

331
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:51,760
So before tonight is the task order to start the design, I guess it's very time to start

332
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to do with this is for the standard complete design software, which will be from Main Street

333
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all the way down to Garfield.

334
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:07,600
We already initially crewed the initial task order to have it included with the bonding

335
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So now we're just at that base, design, go through the winter months with the anticipation

336
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of going out to bed and through that project and potentially marching, go next year

337
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with construction start in April May.

338
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We've already had some meetings at the school, trying to figure out how we're into the configuration

339
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between main and hamptons, so that's all going to get re-piced.

340
00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:37,840
and we're planning to do the street like, hold it in place.

341
00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:41,400
We're happening all new waters, sewers, water and everything.

342
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Do it right.

343
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Our also holds and goals is to kind of widen

344
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a little bit in that area.

345
00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:49,420
The streets are more narrow.

346
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,180
That angle part of the river, the angle will help.

347
00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:55,220
We're going to make this one.

348
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,220
The strands are going to figure out a couple of different options

349
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that we can work on to the school.

350
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So we'll see how it's going to take up the drop off zone and we'll probably try to add more parking on the west side as well

351
00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:14,020
between Spring and the Hamilton right now it's very convoluted, the right away is actually wider, there's a lot more

352
00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:20,920
address so we think we can narrow that up so someone has more parking, our hosts just make it better and more safe than we so

353
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,000
but we're in that design phase now and we'll proceed forward in that.

354
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,660
North

355
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Frontaway and the Planes Band Sticks.

356
00:24:31,070 --> 00:24:32,590
That's made more of that.

357
00:24:32,970 --> 00:24:37,090
That'll probably be a bit more like vegetable, probably designed.

358
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:41,110
Right now, I'm kind of in a bit.

359
00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:42,610
It is.

360
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Just some dry ones.

361
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:46,590
Right, yes.

362
00:24:46,770 --> 00:24:48,070
I'll go right in the way.

363
00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:56,940
Nice little residence in 6863, a broken task order 26 before the South Frontaway,

364
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:15,100
We have a motion and second to approve resolution 6863, I roll call.

365
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Spelt.

366
00:25:16,220 --> 00:25:16,780
Aye.

367
00:25:17,380 --> 00:25:17,640
Dinner.

368
00:25:18,260 --> 00:25:18,860
Aye.

369
00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:19,860
Kiffel.

370
00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:20,320
Aye.

371
00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:21,100
Larson.

372
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:21,800
Aye.

373
00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:22,500
McGrat.

374
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,180
Aye.

375
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,420
Sugar.

376
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:24,960
Aye.

377
00:25:25,860 --> 00:25:35,580
The resolution of 6863 is adopted, item L, self-industrial park amendment 2 task force,

378
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first task order 25 days, 0, 3.

379
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,780
So, would the original task order for the self-industrial park was approved?

380
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:53,140
We didn't know that we were implying for a rise camp and there's a lot more regulations

381
00:25:53,140 --> 00:26:05,580
The regulations and requirements that need to be submitted, so with that, there's like an additional $9,000 engineering cost to cover related work that was associated with that.

382
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:07,740
But the 9,000 welcome onto the ice cream.

383
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:12,360
All right, this is required to be done, right?

384
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,580
I'll use that.

385
00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:18,460
It's more resolution moving to task order number 25,

386
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:20,980
national 3-bit self-adjusted report project.

387
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:23,740
Excellent.

388
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:24,540
Good.

389
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,300
Go ahead, Jim.

390
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,200
I'll second.

391
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:32,820
We have motion second to approve resolution 6-8, order 6-8-6-4,

392
00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:39,100
for the test work order on 25 days or three.

393
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,100
I have roll call.

394
00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:40,840
Spelt.

395
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:41,400
Aye.

396
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,180
Dinner.

397
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:43,340
Aye.

398
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,420
Kiple.

399
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:44,820
Aye.

400
00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:45,740
Larson.

401
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:46,380
Aye.

402
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:46,960
McGrath.

403
00:26:47,260 --> 00:26:47,500
Aye.

404
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,100
Sugar.

405
00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:48,780
Aye.

406
00:26:49,780 --> 00:26:50,420
McGrath.

407
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,140
Aye.

408
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:51,840
Aye.

409
00:26:52,420 --> 00:26:53,060
McGrath.

410
00:26:53,060 --> 00:26:53,220
Aye.

411
00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:53,420
McGrath.

412
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,160
Aye.

413
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,400
McGrath.

414
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Aye.

415
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:12,620
So again, I actually stated earlier, it also was raised that this is the initial soil

416
00:27:12,620 --> 00:27:18,860
warrant testing of the area to get a gauge of what the soil is made to be light out there

417
00:27:18,860 --> 00:27:19,840
in the south industrial part.

418
00:27:20,060 --> 00:27:26,080
So when we prepare the bids, as of right now, the top of the mitch, all right, just made

419
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,360
a timeline of going out to bid is November December for this project.

420
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:34,580
So he wants to get that information hopefully done here soon and put it in the bid packet.

421
00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:39,360
so contractors know what they're dealing with somewhat before start.

422
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:56,580
I know they're planning on smithing their flat to us here in the next couple of weeks so that'll go before the plan and zoning commissions on the 21st of September so we are only actively going forward with that project.

423
00:27:56,980 --> 00:27:57,360
What

424
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,840
does it say on the material?

425
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,160
Well, this amount fell up again, too,

426
00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:12,380
and you're doing levels.

427
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,320
I don't know the answer.

428
00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:19,780
I mean, again, this is just the initial testing.

429
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,540
I mean, no contractors will order really a bit of sight

430
00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:24,240
unless they know what they're dealing with for the soil.

431
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,640
So, it's hard to bid a project,

432
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,440
if you don't know what you're going to bring in more rock.

433
00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:34,120
I mean, this will give you a rough idea of what you're dealing with.

434
00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:41,940
I hope we will eliminate some changes later, because you know, it holds me in hand with the

435
00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:42,240
gorgeous.

436
00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:46,340
And this is tough, because we pay back what's there.

437
00:28:47,540 --> 00:28:52,080
And is there any things always come up?

438
00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:58,500
But if we start to reach the 1970s, and could that go beyond that possibly?

439
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:01,360
And if so, would it be reasonable?

440
00:29:02,380 --> 00:29:10,260
I wouldn't think it would for borings. We've had borings out the South Industrial Park in the past with the industries that are out there in the state of Iowa says we have to do so.

441
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:16,540
We have borings out there every time we put a new industry out there, but these are what they say the initial boring costs are.

442
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:24,660
Now afterwards, once the bidder gets it, I don't know what the new contractors are going to say, but I wouldn't think with an inch.

443
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,880
So, if there is, after the bid, then we've got to do some more forings for another $40,000.

444
00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:47,480
Is the rise grant paid for that?

445
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,920
Well, we get a flat amount, 50% of what we spent.

446
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,840
And so, you know, we can now that the rise grant has been approved and granted to us.

447
00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,980
Now, all in...

448
00:30:21,910 --> 00:30:31,330
We have motion, second, two, approved, resolution, six, eight, six, five, roll call. Spelts, dinner,

449
00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:31,390
here.

450
00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:32,590
Five.

451
00:30:32,990 --> 00:30:33,390
Kipple.

452
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:34,650
Larson.

453
00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:35,510
Hi.

454
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:36,410
McGrath.

455
00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:37,050
Hi.

456
00:30:37,690 --> 00:30:38,190
Swickran.

457
00:30:38,430 --> 00:30:38,550
Hi.

458
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,380
The resolution 6865 is adopted.

459
00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:50,120
Item M is board of adjustment hearing decision.

460
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,260
So tonight we have board of adjustment meetings for Bradley and Jordan Nelson.

461
00:30:55,740 --> 00:31:01,360
They live out at 1934 Mission Avenue, which is within a two mile

462
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:09,400
limits and outside of the elements, their request today was for an additional 90 and 4.5 inches

463
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:17,500
above the maximum 20 foot for an accessory structure. The board was mainly voted 4.1 with

464
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:23,380
one attention to approve that very interquest. So that was before us tonight.

465
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:35,600
The questions

466
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,020
Oh, thank you, John.

467
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,220
Thank you.

468
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:42,000
Did you ever answer to anybody next to the board?

469
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:45,860
All right.

470
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,220
I don't know the discussion on that, then.

471
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,580
I'm old.

472
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,580
W-W-P-P, 60% of the buying options, of course.

473
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,420
Wastewater treatment class.

474
00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:00,740
We've been sold out to people.

475
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,800
We've met with Stram.

476
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,380
on just 60% design of our waste water treatment plant.

477
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,720
Got some, that's a good news.

478
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:15,800
And when we last talked year to ago,

479
00:32:15,980 --> 00:32:18,380
our plant was around 47 million in change.

480
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:22,160
That cost just based on cost opinions

481
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,760
from what other plants have been fitted over the last year.

482
00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:31,560
That cost has essentially risen based on the comparables

483
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,940
of one other equipment, material, contractor bids, and I thought it would come in that.

484
00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:42,740
Their estimated range is still between $44 million and $59 million.

485
00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:52,120
One in particular that was just bid on June 2nd was independent Swiss water plant that

486
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,380
came in 18 million over the interiors estimate.

487
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,020
The city still liked to move forward because they're kind of in the same boat.

488
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:07,040
So they have to make deadlines and they're worried some is a longer way, the chance of it going up this more.

489
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:11,660
Mason City went out to bed or hooked a bid earlier this year.

490
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,480
Their estimate was 33.8 million and came in at 45 million.

491
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,700
So 12 million over. So what we're seeing across the state, it's not good.

492
00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:26,120
Everything's going up dramatically.

493
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:33,100
and a large part of it is these contractors that specialize in doing wastewater plants have decided

494
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:39,480
why is spending two, three years doing wastewater plant when you have to bottle all these state regulations

495
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:46,460
and pickups, wash away, and yes, the state has vacant wage rates by American cloths, things of that nature.

496
00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:54,880
They're jumping chip and going to construction data centers where they can do that in literally three to six months

497
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,100
and make just as much money and don't have to borrow the same guidelines regularly.

498
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:02,820
So that's what they're seeing, they're also seeing with terrorists, they're also seeing

499
00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:08,840
with just cost material, will be time to get material in, these have all become factors.

500
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:17,380
And again, it's just a cost of opinion, so we're timeline right now and just being to go

501
00:34:17,380 --> 00:34:22,860
out to bed in January of February from this waste water plant, they plan to have the 100%

502
00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:30,700
design studies done in November when they submitted off to DNR for review and approval over

503
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:35,660
the winter months, but I don't know what now till Central January November is going to be.

504
00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:44,720
I would assume the cost may stay about the same and not to look more, but you rather us be prepared

505
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:49,700
of what the cost opinion came in at and not be shell shot when at least 12 or 18 million

506
00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:55,960
over with these other communities are experiencing. So with that being said, I'll

507
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:04,000
recognize that and on a meeting the other day with Travis Squires are what is

508
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,020
the early finance. Financial advisor? Yeah. So we sat in with them just trying to

509
00:35:11,020 --> 00:35:17,900
figure out where we sit based on our rate structure that we implemented if we're

510
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:22,860
able to make the payments, we may have to add one more year of a 25 percent increase

511
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:32,320
to make it doable and potentially another year of a 12 percent, but he said that if the

512
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,900
council would want in another work session to kind of go through everything, to explore

513
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:44,540
all other options, they would be well-traveled as well for engineers, they would entertain

514
00:35:44,540 --> 00:35:50,300
that to have a work session with the council to discuss this, I don't think any decision

515
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:56,060
needs to be made right now. I think we have time, you know, continue to design process,

516
00:35:56,260 --> 00:36:01,520
go up to bed, see where the actual hard numbers come in at. And then at that time, we do have time

517
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,680
to essentially if we have to increase rates or look at further options, remind certainly

518
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,940
but right now we're looking at doing

519
00:36:11,940 --> 00:36:14,120
in SRF state revolving loan fund,

520
00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:16,580
which is alone for 20 years.

521
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,000
We do have the option to go into 30 years.

522
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Don't quote me on this,

523
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,060
but did he say it was like additional 10 to 12 million?

524
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,260
In interest.

525
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Just an interest.

526
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,760
If we extended out 10 years,

527
00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:29,240
it's pretty significant.

528
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,640
I'm not aware of that.

529
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:31,620
That's what we should do.

530
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,380
So, one of the ideas that buy us some more time

531
00:36:33,380 --> 00:36:35,280
are payments each year aren't as high,

532
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,520
but I can't justify paying our 10 to 12 million

533
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:46,840
over a course of 10 years, you know, we started this process back in 2015. That's when the

534
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:57,660
initial silly plan was done per the DNR biopin. When we have DNR do the silly plan, you know,

535
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:05,440
at that time in 2015 it was 16 million. At 21 when I started here, we started the silly plan

536
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,800
process again because they're only good for five years that cost was anticipated here on 28 billion.

537
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:20,060
Then last year was about 47 million and every time you're on it just keeps going up and we're trying

538
00:37:20,060 --> 00:37:23,280
to do everything we can to power the cut. There's nothing really to cut.

539
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,540
How can we use the city building 45 million? There is doing some additions. They want

540
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:35,380
and we don't have a river to discharge it.

541
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,000
Our problem is our stream, you know, strength range trees.

542
00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:43,360
If we were discharging in the lots of vinegar,

543
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,580
we have a lot less room for water.

544
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,200
It's just a smaller body of water,

545
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,340
the upper body is the water that we discharge,

546
00:37:52,740 --> 00:37:54,240
it has to be within the water we drink.

547
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,440
So I've heard in the public how in the other way are we going to work this?

548
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,640
I don't know, now I'm going to write a letter to the Sunkenberg region.

549
00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:23,500
Over the last year we did do some tweaking on the bell foods and what pay value is here.

550
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,180
They're both operating under maintenance and operation and cost.

551
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,800
Those at both since then eliminated.

552
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:30,720
We got them paying the same amount.

553
00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:35,400
We will see a substantial large amount coming in, but we don't know what is that, numbers.

554
00:38:35,940 --> 00:38:45,240
all we got is estimates based on the proposals of what their plan to use will be. A large part of

555
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:51,900
both develop and that will represent is, you know, we ask that all industry do pre-treatment

556
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,660
before any waste is discharged to the city because in the past, for example, developed and have

557
00:38:59,660 --> 00:39:03,200
a good pre-treatment system. So if everything that they were discharged and we had to pre-treat,

558
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,960
it was costing the city additional money at this time they're actually going to be constructing

559
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,220
an EQ based on our EQ takeout at the facility so they'll actually be doing more pre-treatment

560
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:20,540
so that should help take some costs away from what we've been put in for pre-treatment.

561
00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:27,420
I know Rembrandt has put in like a $2 or $3 million pre-treatment system so what we've seen

562
00:39:27,420 --> 00:39:30,800
over the last month or two of them in this chart and we're getting hardly nothing like

563
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:38,280
This stuff is almost free to be when it comes to it, so it's doing what we've asked, but we've

564
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,240
also implemented some surcharges in place as well. So, for example, like Debell with the surcharges,

565
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,540
anytime that we get a free treat, the stuff that they're sending to us, like the first month we collected

566
00:39:50,540 --> 00:39:57,780
like almost $12,000, this free treatment surcharges, the second month was like $8,000, the third month was

567
00:39:57,780 --> 00:40:01,180
like 9,000. This is an additional money that we were not talking about in the past.

568
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,620
It was causing us to do that for treatment.

569
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,120
So we are starting to see a little bit more money coming, which is a good thing.

570
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:17,940
I know having talks with Travis East, and we would be very comfortable based on what we had with the old M&O.

571
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,420
When that wasn't placed, the fellow M&O was going away.

572
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:27,760
He feels that we, we said a lot better, but we just don't know until these costs come in.

573
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:34,260
When we had that 47 million us, we were going to be just comfortable with making those payments

574
00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:34,800
each year.

575
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:39,360
I know it's a lot, but we were going to be able to make it over at one year long period.

576
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:40,120
We're

577
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,460
going to be at it, but I would probably recommend that we do have that word session

578
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:57,700
just so you guys can get filled in with scram and filled in with Travis, I thought I was

579
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:00,380
pretty good with spread sheets, but he's really good.

580
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:09,520
He's got everything broken out by the year, different variations, whether it's VA, SRF,

581
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,040
he's bringing it up that these means we have that we should look at doing the USDA loan,

582
00:41:16,580 --> 00:41:20,980
which you could actually get a grant for, but I'm not really keen on that just for the fact.

583
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:28,860
USDA does give you option to get a 40-year loan, but it also puts in a clause of by America,

584
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:35,120
So every single column of that entire plant has to be every material, but it's bold, not

585
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,560
anything healthy made in America.

586
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:41,800
And it does get the cost of by 10 to 15 percent.

587
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,680
And then we would also be required to submit a new facility plan that means USDA requirements,

588
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,920
which would essentially create a project out another year, year and a half.

589
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:56,460
So I don't know if I'm in favor of that, but you can push the project up because all of

590
00:41:56,460 --> 00:41:58,260
and I just like to push in the project up.

591
00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:02,100
I'm also not keen on having a 40-year loan

592
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,360
because plans are only good for about

593
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,840
approximately 30 or 40 years.

594
00:42:06,580 --> 00:42:07,760
Oh, the interest a little too.

595
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,540
Never would.

596
00:42:08,740 --> 00:42:11,380
So again, I'm just not real keen on the U.S. Day,

597
00:42:11,540 --> 00:42:12,960
but it's just in that big branch though.

598
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,620
You can get it in your hand,

599
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,580
but I think Winner set it out one day,

600
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:19,100
set it here this last year.

601
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,520
And it was only like a million dollars

602
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,540
is all I got out of it.

603
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,860
It's better than nothing, but you're also going to have your cost is going to be bucked

604
00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:37,480
up by a 10 to 15% too, so if you look at 10 million, if our point was to say 47 million,

605
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:44,680
you add 10%, that's 4.7 million potentially that's going to get added, so I don't know

606
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:53,040
if it's worth it, I mean, because you have to go up to 40 years for a long, but I don't

607
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,000
Is there any place where the offer is zero percent financing for the city or the municipality?

608
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,600
You know, state Logan 1 fund is the best that's out there and the state is Logan 1 fund.

609
00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:11,160
And right now they'll quote the honest, it's like 2.8 something but then you guys add in percentages so it comes out to like 3 something.

610
00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:16,040
That's the best there is, which is pretty cheap right now, it is.

611
00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:23,720
and the SRF they they have a new percent every quarter or so we can't block it

612
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:31,140
in every it'll just be at a pin right now we have a zero percent interest state

613
00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:39,060
state will be going for the design but once we're done the design that design will

614
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:42,320
It's converted over to the actual 20-year-old.

615
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,860
Thank you for the news.

616
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,480
I'm in favor of having a listen.

617
00:43:54,940 --> 00:44:00,080
Is there a certain day, time, that works for a buddy?

618
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Oh, friends of mine.

619
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,980
Well, I don't know what tradition.

620
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,540
Yeah, so thank you.

621
00:44:06,540 --> 00:44:07,280
We're going to talk to them.

622
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,720
Do we get them together and give them a digital pool?

623
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,080
Have them give us a full day.

624
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Yes, yes.

625
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,740
We'll find a battery there and get it there.

626
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:18,220
September 14 through the 22nd I will be done.

627
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,020
What is it?

628
00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:20,840
September 14 through the 22nd.

629
00:44:23,770 --> 00:44:26,090
And I'll be off for a while after, I told you

630
00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:28,050
seven people to spend this room to reach there.

631
00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:32,670
Okay.

632
00:44:33,090 --> 00:44:34,830
I will just share a nice little room.

633
00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:36,430
We'll see what they have available.

634
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:39,510
And we'll come over and we'll be back and push down.

635
00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:40,110
Okay.

636
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:43,230
Just wanted to bring up the tickets.

637
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:44,690
I can't.

638
00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:46,190
Okay.

639
00:44:46,190 --> 00:44:48,610
in the other business?

640
00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:50,390
Yep, I do.

641
00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:56,190
As you just approved $300,000 in contracts or payments,

642
00:44:56,510 --> 00:44:58,770
we don't have any money yet from our bonds.

643
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:27,640
So I reached out to Travis again. His comment is, Doris has been completing all the preliminary work they can waiting for the finalized debt structure and dates. So this is just for the street projects, not the waste letter plan. Piper should have the finalized debt structure available this evening and will coordinate dates with Doris. The rating agency has been prepped. The timeline should get rolling quickly this week on an expedited basis.

644
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:34,480
Council can use lost funds for the cash flow until the bond proceeds are

645
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:40,400
received. And then we'll move forward. What do you mean? What do you mean? Just

646
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:48,460
show money over here and not everything. Yep. So that should be coming.

647
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:56,700
Okay. We're much much. I do want to talk about the EMA meeting

648
00:45:56,700 --> 00:46:04,600
and see what your thoughts are on that if you have any thoughts as how that's going

649
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,200
to move forward to the benefit of everybody in the county?

650
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:24,280
No, and for the field, there's some chatter about kind of merge the EMAs departments with possibly another county or another county falling under ours.

651
00:46:29,380 --> 00:46:44,240
There's no money to finance it for another year, so we have to look at options of what

652
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:44,860
we can do.

653
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:53,540
The cities aren't willing to put more money into it because this is all done after the

654
00:46:53,540 --> 00:46:56,360
budget was adopted for all the towns.

655
00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:01,160
The county isn't putting more money into it.

656
00:47:02,780 --> 00:47:08,340
So, you know, the options are merging with another county possibly.

657
00:47:10,460 --> 00:47:11,660
You know, we already

658
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:16,380
have some mutual aid agreements with other counties. You know, the counties are owned for

659
00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:21,520
or help with a lot of talent or canning rest back in the day if any was out of town.

660
00:47:22,580 --> 00:47:24,300
I haven't been something major happened.

661
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:35,720
So, as far as how I would vote, I'll say tell you here more of the details that I don't know.

662
00:47:37,060 --> 00:47:43,480
I just, I have reservations about regionalizing or going

663
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:50,950
with when she counted in EMA just because of how much time they would or would not spend

664
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:57,390
here. I know there is, what I was told today is there's $19,000 in FEMA money that Jeff

665
00:47:57,390 --> 00:48:06,270
could apply for Kenny and AJ both did to cover part of his wages. Jeff has not, my understanding

666
00:48:06,270 --> 00:48:21,770
The screening has not done the paperwork for that $19,000 a year, but if Winshie County would take over, that person would have to spend 20 hours per week in Chickasaw County to be eligible for that money.

667
00:48:22,810 --> 00:48:30,010
I don't see Winshie County being able to spend half of their week in the county.

668
00:48:32,690 --> 00:48:43,930
Steve Breibach, I met with him last night, you know, and his proposal to me was, the

669
00:48:44,670 --> 00:48:53,530
county paid $65,172 of his just budget request was $113,755, and I could get copies of

670
00:48:53,530 --> 00:49:01,870
anybody wants it. And his proposal knew him to pay $24,052.70 a year.

671
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,200
If we did a per capita

672
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:15,760
basis, even with them taking it out of general supplemental, if we did a per capita basis,

673
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:23,180
we'd end up paying about $33,000. So this is actually a better deal financially.

674
00:49:25,660 --> 00:49:26,300
And

675
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:29,160
And if Jeff could pursue that 19,000 FEMA,

676
00:49:29,580 --> 00:49:31,760
they could save everybody a little bit of money.

677
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Where do you taxed for a DNA?

678
00:49:38,310 --> 00:49:41,770
They have to disclose how much EMA is funded,

679
00:49:42,330 --> 00:49:44,470
but Matthew's paying for it.

680
00:49:45,950 --> 00:49:49,550
He got what he got that to do.

681
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,900
He got what assessor's office, Ray.

682
00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:58,940
And under General Supplemental,

683
00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:06,520
the rural citizens fund that $1.278 million, the urban

684
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:13,640
citizens fund that $504,000. So that's where they got the 72% of that fund is funded by

685
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,440
the rural people.

686
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:29,700
And 29% is funded by urban. And urban has, you know, two rural people, there's

687
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:37,560
4,955 residents and 7,057 urban residents, the cities have more people.

688
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:47,690
The hard thing I have with that is, I've seen a comment on my Facebook post

689
00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:49,330
on them finding people about the meaning.

690
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:55,610
One of the comments was, well, the cities have more people.

691
00:50:56,050 --> 00:50:58,930
EMA helps people. EMA does a lot more than help people.

692
00:50:58,930 --> 00:51:07,510
infrastructure, roads, buildings, fields, the theme of funding we get, 4.7 million dollars

693
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:11,490
of theme of funding, funding just for roads in the last 20 years.

694
00:51:13,610 --> 00:51:14,810
So yeah,

695
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:22,910
I would personally like to see Jeff get that 19,000 for his wages and hopefully

696
00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:26,310
to pursue some more funding mechanisms,

697
00:51:26,330 --> 00:51:27,770
whether it be grants or whatever,

698
00:51:28,170 --> 00:51:33,390
but I guess there's some sort of resolution

699
00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:39,050
where if the cities have to help financially

700
00:51:39,050 --> 00:51:41,210
to make it work, do we do that in the meantime?

701
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:43,510
I personally would like,

702
00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:45,650
I don't know how they go about doing it.

703
00:51:47,310 --> 00:51:50,850
Steve's concern was 2090C and how it's set up

704
00:51:50,850 --> 00:51:56,430
where his concern was the city's can vote but the county has to pay the old

705
00:51:56,430 --> 00:52:03,890
dad and I said well why don't we can the EMA board take some of the money they

706
00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:09,290
got left over hiring an attorney and get a get a judges opinion on 29 C and how

707
00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:14,870
that applies to food pays for what so that's kind of seems like the biggest

708
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:18,730
class how to interpret that law

709
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,640
and the county attorney can't represent the

710
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:32,980
EMA board. So they have no legal person to tell them they would get a judge

711
00:52:32,980 --> 00:52:39,460
and the judge isn't gonna get an opinion they need to they could probably ask

712
00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:45,420
unnecessary to give an opinion where they can maybe ask the attorney general or the

713
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:46,300
county three, the

714
00:52:48,990 --> 00:52:49,990
college.

715
00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:56,450
But it can't, fairly the county three walls. He's got to represent the county.

716
00:52:59,060 --> 00:53:18,610
We ran in those back when there was the ambulance house and everything else. I mean, the, you know, those, the ambulance committee had no power, but the, um, the EMA board had no power.

717
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:34,250
you know it's you know our hands are basically tied on that too. How much is this decision was based on how many's management of their budget had to cut all the importance in the end of the

718
00:54:01,550 --> 00:54:08,810
So Karen, okay, we're taxed, we're taxed, AMA, cracked another five-three taxes, and we're taxed

719
00:54:08,810 --> 00:54:08,970
rural.

720
00:54:11,850 --> 00:54:13,050
I think it goes under rural funds.

721
00:54:13,870 --> 00:54:14,090
Yeah.

722
00:54:14,090 --> 00:54:21,930
So we got a firm dying on the federal funds and didn't we have children 55,000 or something from the digital, on the U.M.A.

723
00:54:22,990 --> 00:54:24,210
We're going to have to shoot.

724
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:29,050
It's a good thing you see that because urban does pay the general basic also.

725
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:30,670
That total is 1,000.

726
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:31,690
It looks fairly familiar.

727
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:37,290
1.459 million urban pays to county taxes.

728
00:54:37,850 --> 00:54:37,990
Yes.

729
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:48,350
So that's what we're trying to figure out how, if we're paying them back to the money to use their county facilities, the courthouse, the sheriff's office.

730
00:54:48,850 --> 00:54:51,710
While we're getting double debt, double bill for just about two.

731
00:54:51,850 --> 00:54:56,650
But why is our share of that going to that?

732
00:54:57,490 --> 00:55:03,690
And not just his $69,000 or $79,000 budget.

733
00:55:04,670 --> 00:55:06,590
We're paying in. Where's the money going?

734
00:55:08,290 --> 00:55:13,970
And they have all these properties, they pay no property tax, they pay nothing to our

735
00:55:13,970 --> 00:55:14,510
third apartment.

736
00:55:14,990 --> 00:55:16,030
One has a response.

737
00:55:16,310 --> 00:55:16,970
I mentioned that.

738
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:23,030
He says, well, city folks use the courthouse, too, and as the wall, you can't use our streets

739
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:24,110
to get to the courthouse.

740
00:55:24,930 --> 00:55:25,930
It's kind of a move point.

741
00:55:26,110 --> 00:55:27,910
We use our courthouse, our grocery store.

742
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:35,350
We use our things too, but that's why I can't understand why we're expected to pay $1.5

743
00:55:35,350 --> 00:55:38,450
$1.5 into their rural, general stuff,

744
00:55:38,590 --> 00:55:40,050
well, not a little bit of a fun to go sent to.

745
00:55:40,410 --> 00:55:42,270
I doubt if the information I'm available with me,

746
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:45,130
but then they're saying that we're not paying enough.

747
00:55:48,270 --> 00:55:50,110
When I got from the article,

748
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:54,290
was that the state legislature changed

749
00:55:54,290 --> 00:55:56,710
how much funding can go to.

750
00:55:58,330 --> 00:55:59,730
So basically, they're saying,

751
00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:01,470
well, even if you have the money,

752
00:56:01,970 --> 00:56:04,710
you can't or are not feeling

753
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:05,590
with the rich as many.

754
00:56:05,950 --> 00:56:06,990
Even if you have the money,

755
00:56:06,990 --> 00:56:11,950
you can't give it to them because only this much is supposed to go to them. That

756
00:56:11,950 --> 00:56:17,930
applies to reduced how much that's because they instead of budgeting the

757
00:56:17,930 --> 00:56:23,330
one-thirteen the only budget at 65 and then the new law went to effect. Now they're

758
00:56:23,330 --> 00:56:30,800
stuck with the one-thirteen if they were to set with the one-thirteen then we would

759
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:40,940
been okay. Yeah. Again. We're paying. They can't do it. No. No, so now you can change

760
00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:41,720
out the new law.

761
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:46,570
Well, this is a problem because he only applies to us.

762
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:49,440
It's everybody's

763
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:56,560
problem. Yeah, it's an important part. I think somewhere down the road, we're running

764
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,840
a huge snag if we have a disaster and trying to get female reimbursement or female funds.

765
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,160
And when a sheet's next door, so if the disaster comes through Chickasaw, it might hit when

766
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,720
a sheet, too.

767
00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:09,760
And where is this priority?

768
00:57:09,980 --> 00:57:10,360
It's going to be.

769
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,200
Yeah.

770
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,660
I don't want to see this.

771
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,120
I don't know why we need to make some further mistakes.

772
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:33,680
The other point of that is, you know, if Jeff went to part time, we're going to do the 9-1-1

773
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,020
stuff.

774
00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:39,160
And that wasn't in his report, but a lot wasn't in the draft side of the side of the

775
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:39,700
field anyway.

776
00:57:43,510 --> 00:57:56,760
I did meet with J. Cacman and Joe Boots in this morning at the Himalayan, their possibility

777
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,200
of

778
00:57:59,790 --> 00:58:03,310
combining another job into Jeff's duties.

779
00:58:05,380 --> 00:58:10,680
I haven't discussed this with the Board of Health, but years ago Kenny was seen as a

780
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:16,080
the state of Perian and their environmental health, whatever you want to call it now,

781
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:22,240
but somehow that got put under the Board of Health, and the Board of Health gave that

782
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:31,580
back to the supervisors and Jeff do both of those jobs and deal to keep his employment.

783
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,100
Is that an alternative position?

784
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:14,240
I don't know if Jeff could get his job done per time. I don't know if, if they both wish he'd get Sean and can provide ad quit because they asked for planning and all that stuff with businesses.

785
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:20,940
is because Jeff works of course just trademark as an example they have. He works at trademark

786
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:23,340
on their disaster planes that almost every year.

787
00:59:24,460 --> 00:59:27,900
It does hard as that one for every four years.

788
00:59:31,660 --> 00:59:36,740
If we have a tornado come through or another huge flood, then what?

789
00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:41,100
You know, it could be

790
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,440
just up the simple, that's in my eye since I'm 63,

791
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,440
I got 300 gallons of diesel fuel

792
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,580
and that's gotta be addressed.

793
00:59:51,590 --> 00:59:53,370
I would just hate to see the department

794
00:59:57,420 --> 00:59:59,020
eliminated or moved out of the county.

795
00:59:59,520 --> 00:59:59,780
Great.

796
01:00:16,750 --> 01:00:26,430
All right. We move under business and well, and ask for a signature. We have motion. I'm working for the whole favor of

797
01:00:26,430 --> 01:00:27,210
I'm gonna play this.

798
01:00:27,570 --> 01:00:29,510
I'm gonna play

799
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:31,870
this.

800
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:34,030
I'm gonna play this.