1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,640 right in front of me. I thought he was going 70 mph 2 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:12,280 and they me 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,920 they're referring to them as super speed. 4 00:00:27,599 --> 00:00:34,160 » All right. Sorry. It's a little bit late. We'll go ahead and get started. 5 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:37,360 So, uh, first off, let's call to order and do a roll call for the members 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:41,960 present. >> Council member Atkins 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,960 » preser 8 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,200 » preser 9 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,520 » council member Joyce. >> Council member Son 10 00:00:54,399 --> 00:01:00,000 » present. >> Okay. Uh this is just a work session 11 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:03,840 this evening. We're just going to discuss the applications that were 12 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,439 received that everybody should have gotten. 13 00:01:05,439 --> 00:01:13,040 Um before we start doing that though, I'm going to ask council member sex to 14 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,119 excuse herself and we'll we'll power for you when we're done. So you're in here 15 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:19,119 for council. >> She's going to want to get 16 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:23,759 » Okay, that's fine. >> Take the key. Yeah. And that the 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,400 driver's side, not the passenger side. That's not my 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,119 Somebody will let me know. >> Yeah, we'll call you or text your 19 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:37,720 somebody will >> or I will or 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,720 » wait until you get my phone. 21 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:47,600 » And then um I do want to make another note. Um 22 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,520 we have Mr. Wel that is related to Mr. Mrs. Sex 23 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:56,320 » by she >> by marriage. So 24 00:01:53,119 --> 00:01:58,399 » that's not an issue. Okay, there we go. Was that is that your answer what you're 25 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,799 looking for? >> I'm just making sure it'll be because 26 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:07,840 » Oh, yeah. My family wouldn't benefit, I don't think, in any way is how I was 27 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:11,760 kind of trying to summize everything. So, 28 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:18,959 » it was blood relative. That's different. >> Yeah. 29 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:24,560 » Well, his she to his nephew. So, >> that's even one one. 30 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,640 So, she going to the to get you. >> Yeah, they're just 31 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:35,200 we'll wait. We'll wait for Mayor. Mayor, are we uh looking at 13 resumes? 32 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:40,239 Whatever the I think there's 13. Okay. Just wanted to make sure. 33 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:45,599 » There was a seemed like a redundancy in a couple of them, 34 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,840 » but I kind of kept going and going and going. 35 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,400 » Okay. All right. 36 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,680 » Yeah. So, uh, >> I I 37 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,440 tell you, >> everybody did get the packet, correct? 38 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,800 And has had an opportunity to look through it. 39 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:03,840 » Yes. >> Um, Shannon, we'll just we'll start off 40 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:07,440 with you. What what you want to what you want to discuss or or because you've 41 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,360 seen these before, we have, I'm assuming. 42 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:14,000 » Yes, I have. >> So, um, I guess we'll just uh or Mike, 43 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,599 do you want to start off with any rules of this or 44 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:23,440 » No, this is it's really just purpose of the meeting. council chance to review 45 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:28,159 the resume. Uh the inter manager has suggested that she's growing weary of 46 00:03:25,519 --> 00:03:32,959 the position and want council to make a choice 47 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:36,799 or take an action of some right indicated that she's not going to give 48 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:40,879 anybody high and drive but wanted to get the process started. So that's really 49 00:03:38,799 --> 00:03:45,200 what will you remain clerk? >> Yes. 50 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:48,959 » Will you be transitioning the new hire? >> I would have to. Yes. 51 00:03:46,239 --> 00:03:50,720 » Yes. Okay. Just wanted to know how that process went. 52 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:54,080 » Yeah. >> Okay. Well, but and you're indicating 53 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:56,000 that you go back to your assistant position. 54 00:03:54,879 --> 00:04:00,000 » Yeah. Actually, the the finance department asked me if I would consider 55 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,519 CFO. Um, so it's kind of up in the in the air where where the needs are. 56 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,799 » Tom Duty was asking you that. >> Correct. Okay. 57 00:04:04,239 --> 00:04:10,560 » So, it was a discussion. I'm not as interested in CFO as I am the 58 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,959 administrative assistant. I feel like I can get more done in that role. Um, but 59 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:19,680 again, I'm a team player and we'll do whatever is needed. So you the 60 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,959 administrative assistant is a full-time position. 61 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:25,280 » Yes. >> And that's fulfilling to the village 62 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,919 manager >> as well as clerk 63 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:32,479 » to be honest with you. It's a more difficult position. So 64 00:04:29,840 --> 00:04:36,840 » okay just that. >> Yeah. Okay. 65 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:36,840 » So that Yeah. 66 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:43,919 » Anybody else have any questions? >> Vice Mayor, I'll tell you what, why 67 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:47,360 don't you just start it off? um kind of look through or explain how you've gone 68 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:50,160 through the process of looking through these applications and give us your 69 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:54,479 feedback on it. That's probably the best way to do it with the understanding as I 70 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:56,800 indicated this is just a work session. We're not here to make any decisions 71 00:04:55,919 --> 00:05:01,759 tonight. Okay. >> It's kind of open your eyes, take a look 72 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:05,919 what we got and uh throw it around for a few minutes and uh we'll move forward 73 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:13,199 with maybe a second work session if we need to or um you know that sound good 74 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:17,440 with everybody. Mr. Present. >> You guys good with that? 75 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:22,240 » All right. So, go ahead, please. >> Okay. Shannon has brought stability to 76 00:05:19,759 --> 00:05:27,280 the village office. She has demonstrated the way the village should and could 77 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:34,560 run. She has communicated policies to both the public and to the village 78 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:39,919 staff. Um, wasteful police actions have been eliminated and the current 79 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:46,080 organization of departments are moving forward. The new village manager will 80 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:51,120 have many challenges to face. Currently, the legislature is looking at removing 81 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:56,479 property taxes for seniors and this will affect new lean income and the ability 82 00:05:53,759 --> 00:06:02,000 to move forward. The new manager will need to find additional income. Zoning 83 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:08,400 continues to be an issue and along with bringing 84 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:13,280 business to the community. the candidates that I chose. And this is 85 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:18,880 how I did it. I looked at just the resumes. I didn't look at anything else, 86 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:24,800 just resumes. And I I waited waited what was 87 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:30,479 important. And I noticed that communication and the way that the 88 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:34,240 public has responded to Shannon because she has communicated. 89 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:39,759 » She's good at customer service. And I made that a 40%. You can get 40%. 90 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:48,639 Knowledge of government practices was 20. Accuracy was 20%. Problem solving I 91 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:52,479 did um 10%. Organize and motivate 5% and knowledge of new Lebanon challenges I 92 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:58,800 did a 5%. And the three that 93 00:06:55,039 --> 00:07:06,800 I waited I waited them all. some of them. Um, the gentleman from 94 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:15,199 Colorado, I actually threw his um, thing out because in our public policies that 95 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:20,880 we receive, if there is a mistruth on a resume or whatever, we would throw 96 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:25,440 it out in your policies. Um, he stated that it has 6,000 97 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:31,759 residents. There's only 1,800. I looked up the census, 98 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:40,319 but the the ones that I came out with was Melissa Stson at 95%, Jeff Carter at 99 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:47,120 80% and Pete Hager at 75%. They were all, you know, they all had a lot to 100 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:50,800 give and um you know, some of them have absolutely no 101 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,800 government. um 102 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:04,400 no government at all. Um they're mostly medical and um Sarah back which was I 103 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:10,800 was just I thought wow this would be really good but um I only got a 60% on 104 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:17,360 her. So as much as I would have loved to have done that um put her in the mix. 105 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:23,440 She had no knowledge of government and she 106 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:29,360 um really didn't show any um organization or motivation to to to 107 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:33,760 staff to get them going. So those are the three that I really would like to 108 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:39,039 even look at. >> When you say look at, you mean talk 109 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:42,719 » to really talk about? Yeah. >> If you want to know what I got for each 110 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:48,640 one, just let me know. I got them all written down. Okay. 111 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:53,720 » What did you get from Mr. Hager? >> Mr. Hager got a 75%. 112 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:03,440 » Did you include in your city experience familiarity with public works? 113 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,120 » No, I did not. >> Department those are pretty elements 114 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,080 too, >> right? That kind of went under 115 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:15,040 government and yes, I think that would be a very big thing. But I also know we 116 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:20,240 have dentists. Um and so 117 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:23,440 that's a portion of the government you have. You have um 118 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,000 » Okay. So you pack that into >> Yeah. 119 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,519 » And grant grant writing and getting public funds. 120 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:34,160 » It's going to be Yeah. >> You got to have those connections and 121 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:39,360 » Yeah. very much. >> Know how to fill the village because 122 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:43,120 with our infrastructure for 123 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:48,320 Yeah. So, if you have any questions on how I 124 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:53,080 did this or or what I looked at, um, definitely 125 00:09:49,839 --> 00:09:53,080 please yell. 126 00:09:53,279 --> 00:10:02,640 Does anybody have anything for you? I'm sorry. 127 00:09:56,959 --> 00:10:07,839 » Anybody have anything for or anything uh to add on in addition to what the been 128 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,360 mentioning? >> No. 129 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:15,519 Thank you, >> Mr. Wilder. You're up, sir. 130 00:10:12,959 --> 00:10:22,959 » Okay. Um, I took a look at everyone that was on 131 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:30,000 there and uh it was tough to narrow it down under the circumstances that uh 132 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:38,079 they would be doing and their background. Nothing really stood out ex 133 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:45,040 but if I had to pick one obviously Melissa she's a resident. 134 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:49,079 » Um she is familiar with the structure of how things work internally. 135 00:10:49,120 --> 00:11:00,160 That was the why I was asking how things would develop with someone coming new on 136 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:10,160 board. Um, so I mean she would be I would agree with Vice Mayor Cooper on 137 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:17,120 that candidate sex. Um, the other you did say Jeff Harter and Hager, correct? 138 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:25,920 » Okay. I did like um his military background 139 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:34,000 and his experience there with dealing with the municipality aspect of the 140 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:41,519 government. Um I did like that as well. So yeah, I would agree with uh Harter 141 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:46,399 and uh Hager. Um >> actually I gave Mr. harder extra extra 142 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:53,600 points because he was military >> and if I remember from the our 143 00:11:50,560 --> 00:12:00,560 unit personel thing that standing >> yes 144 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:10,800 » some of the yes so um I'm kind of like I I got to agree with you also about the 145 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:17,600 um medical field background in some um I just didn't see where that was really 146 00:12:13,839 --> 00:12:22,480 a good fit for us. So, yeah, I would go with those three. I would not have a 147 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:27,600 problem with discussing it more and talking with them, narrowing it down. 148 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Um, also, I did have a question for Shannon. 149 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:38,000 That one piece of paper about public request, was that just included in the 150 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:43,519 packet by mistake? What was that? >> Did anybody get that? Yeah, 151 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:50,440 » it was really really specific. >> I didn't know what that was. Did it have 152 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,440 anything to do with what we're doing? 153 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,000 » No, it does not. >> Okay. 154 00:12:54,240 --> 00:13:00,720 » All right. I was just like, >> okay. Just wanted to verify that. I 155 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:04,880 didn't think it did. I'm like, if someone requested something like that, 156 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:10,240 how in the world >> That's my life. 157 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:15,040 » Oh my gosh. I mean, that's a hard no right off the bat. Okay. Yeah. Um, 158 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:21,760 » so the other thing was the village resident requirement. Um, 159 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:26,959 how long do you give someone um coming on new to become a resident? 160 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:31,519 » There is no residency requirement. >> There is no res. 161 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:35,040 » Okay. Because from the charter it said that it would have to be established 162 00:13:34,079 --> 00:13:40,399 after the fact. >> It's it was one year. you have one year 163 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:44,959 to move them into but then um state law I mean and Mr. You can elaborate more, 164 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:47,839 but it's unconstitutional to require, right? 165 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:52,320 » Okay, I remember that now. >> Okay. 166 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:57,279 » For like emergency responders, things of that 167 00:13:54,399 --> 00:14:00,000 nature, there can be not a residence requirement, but a proximity 168 00:13:58,959 --> 00:14:02,240 requirement. >> But for your village manager, 169 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,800 » okay, >> has been well settled for 25 plus years. 170 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:10,800 Anyhow, that's that's a hard, >> okay? 171 00:14:08,079 --> 00:14:16,560 » But that doesn't mean we can't take that as a factor in your consideration as you 172 00:14:14,079 --> 00:14:19,120 evaluate humanity. >> Sure. 173 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:23,920 » Because bottom line is we've gone through 174 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,720 one, two, three in the past two years, right? 175 00:14:24,959 --> 00:14:31,360 » Yeah. >> Yeah. So can't swing. 176 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,279 » Can't what? >> We can't swing it. 177 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:44,279 » Right. So true. That's all I have. 178 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:44,279 Anybody have anything else for Mr. 179 00:14:45,199 --> 00:14:51,959 Mr. Joy? I came up with five. 180 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:59,560 » I'm sorry. Could you say it a little louder? 181 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,560 » Wolf, 182 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:11,399 I think they all have something that they could offer. Anybody 183 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:32,560 have anything for Mr. Joy? Any questions, concerns? Anything? 184 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:37,360 » If I may, something to interrupt just to let you know the one we selected, Mr. 185 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:41,040 He did apply to the city of Germantown because it came through. I did submit 186 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,320 it, but I don't think he never replied to me when I asked him for 187 00:15:42,079 --> 00:15:47,199 clarification. So, I don't believe that he meant to submit it to us. 188 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,639 » Oh, >> I was going to make that comment just to 189 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:55,600 let you know, but I did include it because it was a bit 190 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:59,600 » that was my accuracy. >> I was thinking someone 191 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:05,199 » I did email him thinking maybe he was but he did not reply. So, I I consider 192 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:05,199 him not interested. Okay. 193 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,639 Nothing else. 194 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:19,040 » Okay. Jim Austin I actually veto because he plays for Germantown, not new 195 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:26,880 evidence. Um Cole Webb, he has a court case that is active right now in um 196 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:34,000 Colorado that is basically with um two police officers that he basically 197 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:38,959 um they've already run the claim and now they're doing the village. Well, not the 198 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:43,839 village, the what is it? It's the county. Yeah. 199 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:50,079 » That settled town >> um about that and he's named on it 200 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:55,120 because he was actually the one that >> messed with it because they was not able 201 00:16:52,160 --> 00:17:01,519 to get a job after he um dismissed them from the police force and they applied 202 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:05,199 for ICE and it was his statement that stopped them from being able to do it. 203 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:10,720 So I kind of vetoed him right off the bat 204 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:15,520 after that. And then we're going to go to that was 205 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:18,559 left Daniel. >> Okay. 206 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:22,799 » Um, yep. He has a lot of lack of qualifications. 207 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:27,679 Um, he just doesn't have anything that's 208 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:33,440 with the village of qualification. >> I did him because he had PEI in there. 209 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:38,720 » And then we got Heidi. Um, she's a state tested no. 210 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,919 I mean, it's health. That's what the specialty is. 211 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:50,880 Um Michael he specializes in emergency maintenance and public health 212 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:57,280 coordination. So his work is basically it um 213 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:03,840 concentrates on safety and health and not on the logistics of the government. 214 00:17:59,919 --> 00:18:09,200 So I kind of detail him. Sandy Townsen. Um 215 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:15,960 she has the fundamental knowledge but she lacks the seno um level experience 216 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,960 for a village manager. 217 00:18:17,039 --> 00:18:20,679 Then we got 218 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:29,120 I'm trying not to miss any. >> Delaney. 219 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:34,200 » Um yeah Delaney she has no municipality leadership and the background into 220 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,200 healthcare. 221 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:45,520 Then we're going on Tanya healthcare and nursing. 222 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:51,679 Then s um Sarah back. She um has lack of understanding of municipal law and 223 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:55,520 zoning and public work, >> but she does have a lot of other 224 00:18:53,280 --> 00:19:03,600 qualifications, but that's I'm just going what the lacking is. Jeff Harding, 225 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:06,600 um he lacks um municipal financing and budgeting. 226 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:21,640 » You said the harder. >> Yeah. 227 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,640 » I guarantee you he experience. 228 00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:30,880 » Yeah. Well, if when you go back and you do the background on him, he's not doing 229 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:35,799 budgeting. I did a big background on all these 230 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:35,799 guys. 231 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:44,760 » Um, that's so then we're going on the new 232 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Steven Wolf. Don't even get me started on this one. Um, this one has a sexual 233 00:19:51,200 --> 00:20:01,760 harassment case. He also has um he was actually with um 234 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:08,400 They audit all they found out um findings of um paying um employees after 235 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:12,160 they left over $2,000. Yes, it's a little bit of money, but it's something 236 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:15,440 that you should be doing. So, there's stuff on him. He has like three 237 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:21,200 different other lawsuits, too. I'm not going to go in all his lawsuits, but 238 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:25,600 he's not a good one. Melissa sex. We're going to get back to 239 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,600 the whole of Alien. Um 240 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:37,440 Peel He has um no hand-on experience in 241 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:42,400 public works or infrastructure, but he has a strong administration and planning 242 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:47,440 and financing. >> He is but it's just the um 243 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:51,919 infrastructure with public works and donating and planning use he does not 244 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:55,360 have. Now when we're going back to Melissa, 245 00:20:53,679 --> 00:21:00,640 I think there was Joe too, but he didn't. It was just a little little 246 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:07,200 didn't any background that I could pour on him. So, 247 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:12,000 um Melissa, I have some major concerns and the reason why I have the concerns 248 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:18,000 is when we had the village manager that retail prior to it. 249 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Um and believe me, I love Melissa to death. She's a good person and I do 250 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:28,559 think she could do a good job. Don't get me wrong. But in the same sense, 251 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:34,000 we have a village manager that she voted on to release. 252 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:40,159 And before all this, they used to come up and they were saying how it looks 253 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:44,480 like um friends, buddies, and pals. Well, her best friend is going to be the 254 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:48,080 assistant, and they'll be walking together. So, 255 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:52,880 right there is a big red flag that people's going to say, "Oh, wait. Now 256 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:57,919 they're going to say she got filed to she voted to get rid of Glenna so she 257 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:01,840 could get the job and this is what's been talking through the village 258 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:06,400 already. It's not something that's new. They're already talking about it and it 259 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:10,720 just doesn't looks good. Even if she could do the job, it don't look like a 260 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:16,720 good fit. We do we really want to go backwards and we have to hash everything 261 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:20,880 over already. It's going good. My biggest thing is if you're going to look 262 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:24,440 at anybody, I would say 263 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:34,880 um I think it's Tito Hegel or just get a head huddle and have Shannon staple a 264 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:38,240 little longer and where we get somebody that can qualify that has years of 265 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:44,080 experience because there is organizations that can help us to get a 266 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:49,280 good city manager here. >> I'm working with him right now. Yep. 267 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:54,080 » But I think we really need to get ahead. I I'm being honest with you guys. 268 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,640 » Um, >> yeah. 269 00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:01,840 » Can I say a couple things? >> Let me say something real quick. Um, I 270 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:10,080 understand what you're saying about how things work, but at the same time, you 271 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:14,000 cannot let that color a decision that you're making. Now, I'm not going to put 272 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,320 my name on something and get another lawsuit. I'm just not going to do it 273 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:24,159 because you're going to look at another lawsuit. Believe me, as soon as 274 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:29,520 here, we got another lawsuit. Does the village need another lawsuit? 275 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:34,400 » No. But I also understand that, >> you know, I also understand that in all 276 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:40,320 reality, if you turn if you lean too far this way 277 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:45,440 and you and to compensate for that, you're leaning all the way over here, 278 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:51,200 then you're not being fair and just. And that's why I did I didn't do off of 279 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:57,120 social media. I didn't do off of uh background checks. I went strictly on 280 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:00,320 what they submitted. And that's why I did it that way. 281 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,679 » I always go on background check. >> I know you do. And that's why I asked if 282 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,880 you were going to do it. Yeah. If you weren't, then I I would have 283 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:11,919 » I always did that because you wanted to know what you'll get into. 284 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:20,080 » Correct. And it it's wise to be have your eyes open. But I also understand 285 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:25,760 that you don't 286 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:30,240 you don't make decisions because of what might happen. You make decisions the 287 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:34,080 best decisions that you can. >> And hey, my best decision if we're going 288 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,520 to unless you're going to go on ahead on those. 289 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:42,240 » Yeah. Because as a a community, we have to go as leaders. 290 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,360 You have to make hard decisions sometimes. And you have to make 291 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:49,279 decisions based on all. >> Because to be honest though, if you 292 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:54,480 look, Melissa really doesn't have zoning. She doesn't have planning. She 293 00:24:52,320 --> 00:25:00,320 doesn't have infrastructure. If you really want to go on, she doesn't have 294 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:05,840 any of that. She has no municipality on that. She does with this, but it's 295 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,760 just since she's been on with us that she has that knowledge. 296 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:11,200 » Correct. >> Walking all that. She doesn't have that. 297 00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:16,080 If you really want to go on somebody that does, strong in personal financing 298 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:22,320 and budgeting and everything else. And he he does have I agree with that. But 299 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:27,919 I'm just kind of under trying to understand 300 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:34,559 why he would go from the city of Dayton to the city of Cington and come back to 301 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:38,240 a little village like New Leon. That that's not a going up. 302 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:44,400 » Find a head hunel. Well, find somebody who's one of the um facilities that you 303 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,640 can actually go and get a a village manager. 304 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:51,720 » Yeah, I I see what you're saying >> because keep Shannon and tell them 305 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:58,559 » good. >> So, just listen to you guys. Um a few 306 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:02,640 things. So, experience and knowledge. I hear you talking about these different 307 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:06,720 candidates and some are healthcare. Um actually, we get a lot of healthcare 308 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:11,200 submissions, believe it or not. Um I don't have experience and knowledge. I 309 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:18,159 think that um and I don't have a college degree. Um I would be I would say that I 310 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:20,880 can confidently though run this village better than somebody with a masters in 311 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:24,640 public administration. >> Yes. 312 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:29,440 » Because of who I am. Um I take pride in what I do. I learn fast. You talk about 313 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,320 not not knowing infrastructure. I can walk you h through the entire way um the 314 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,600 influent affluent our water system and wastewater system now because I have 315 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:43,520 interest in it and because I'm able to learn that. Um so with that being said I 316 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:48,000 don't think that judging somebody based off of do they have experience or not 317 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,919 you may have a nurse in there that's more qualified than Mr. Hager or Mr. 318 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,600 Wolf who have been in municipal government for years. So with that I 319 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:00,480 just want to say that. So then don't disqualify lack of experience or 320 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:05,520 education because I'm proof that that really doesn't matter. Um like I said, 321 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:09,279 it's passion, it's commitment, it's multitasking. It's a lot. This this job 322 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,559 is not it's not an easy job. I hope somebody doesn't think they're going to 323 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:16,240 come in here and I mean it is it's constant. It is and and there's a lot. 324 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:22,720 We're we're very behind. >> How many hours do you think someone 325 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:27,360 should expect to uh put in that position if they were to? If we offered it to 326 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:31,039 them, how many hours would you I mean it's not an 85 job? 327 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,640 » No, 40 hours. >> One time till midnight. 328 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,760 » There you go. >> Like seven weeks. 329 00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:40,720 » Yeah. You got to have that kind of work ethic to um take on a responsibility, 330 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,240 but how long can they last? I mean, there's got to be some parameters so 331 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:48,400 that you can get the longevity out of that person. 332 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:50,880 » I agree. I agree with that. The thing is right now that we are 333 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:54,480 » You're doing two positions though. I'm doing well. I'm doing I'm one person 334 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:56,799 doing two positions. >> Okay. 335 00:27:55,039 --> 00:28:01,679 » Yeah. Thank you for making point. So I am doing two positions 336 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:06,159 » but also like I said >> there's a lot of things that are not 337 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:10,720 right in the village from a financial aspect, from a legal aspect, from policy 338 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,919 procedures, legislature. >> Every day it's something new. 339 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:18,080 » Um you can't you can't kind of you can't 340 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,679 slow off. You cannot start pushing the brakes at all. You need to keep going 341 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:25,120 forward because day 10 days come up and you're still dealing with 50 things from 342 00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:28,000 before. So if you start slowing down and losing that momentum, you're going to be 343 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:31,360 back to where you were and not accomplish anything. 344 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:36,799 » Well, what's your opinion about how well would you work with like say Melissa? I 345 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:40,480 mean, is that does that appeal to you? >> Well, and that's my other thing that I 346 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:45,279 want to note. Um, I have I'm from the school. My heart is with the school just 347 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:49,760 as much as it is here. Um, I did not plan on working for the village, let 348 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:54,720 alone being the interim manager when I started coming up to the podium podium 349 00:28:51,120 --> 00:29:00,080 as a citizen. Um, with that being said, Mr. Git, Mr. Joy knows how much I I talk 350 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,919 about um, cronyism and nepotism. However, and this is what I've explained 351 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:07,360 before, you can have an entire family working in the service department and 352 00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:10,720 they can kill it and they can exceed expectations and they can get things 353 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:14,480 done and accomplish things. Or you can have six strangers that just sit on the 354 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,760 do absolutely nothing. >> So, I think that it depends on the 355 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:21,760 person. I can tell you myself or my family, I can hire every single person 356 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:26,320 in my family and this place would run like a welloiled machine. I wouldn't do 357 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:33,600 that. Um, and they're in another state, but it's just it all depends on the 358 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:39,840 person, the people. So, um >> I think that's going to 359 00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:47,360 be a something that I I would think that would uh show um excel it would excel 360 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:53,360 into people working together. You got to I mean obviously we had an incident in 361 00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:58,640 certain areas of that village that it was a downfall. 362 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:02,640 » Absolutely. and you see what it took to be able to get things running. So, um, 363 00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:04,880 yeah, there's a lot to be said about that. 364 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,279 » Yeah. I mean, and I have no problem once getting things transitioned over. I 365 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,760 mean, you're going to have to find somebody strong to fill my position, but 366 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:15,600 ultimately, I mean, I have no I mean, if it's that big of an issue, I have no 367 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,159 point. I mean, I have no problem in I don't want to say walking away because 368 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:23,360 I'm going to be extremely active regardless whether it be an employee or 369 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:29,120 a citizen. But, um, you know, I understand I do understand your point 370 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:33,919 and I I I see why you said that. It's valid. But I but I will say, as much as 371 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:37,520 I agree with you, it was not anybody's intent. Like I said, coming up here for 372 00:30:36,159 --> 00:30:42,240 years, it was not my intent to work here. I didn't quit my job. It was not 373 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:45,120 Melissa's intent. I was very surprised she put in for this position. She's got 374 00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:49,200 a career she's been at for a very long time. She's very comfortable there. So 375 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:54,000 again, back when all that happened and you'd have to ask her, but I don't think 376 00:30:50,799 --> 00:31:00,080 it was this is not some big grand scheme to get a job at the village of 11, 377 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:06,000 » but you can see how the public and it doesn't look like that at the end 378 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:08,880 of the day it doesn't look like. >> What's that thing about a lawsuit? I 379 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:13,360 mean, >> he's involved in a lawsuit. 380 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:20,559 » She's involved in this lawsuit. I mean, is that something that uh would what 381 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:24,960 would our law director like to say about what your comment was about by doing 382 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,559 something we're exposing them? I mean, we wouldn't want to do anything like 383 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,360 that. >> Anybody could say anybody for anything. 384 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:36,320 » Is that what is that true? I mean, >> are there I've got two frivolous 385 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,919 lawsuits. One of them has been dismissed. 386 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:43,519 » Okay. >> I'm just saying 387 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:45,600 » there's anybody can file for anything. It will get thrown out eventually just 388 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,200 like these >> lawsuits. 389 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:55,760 Village money. >> It could. I can't imagine what the uh 390 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:59,360 what the litigation would look like, but then again, 391 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,720 you couldn't get me to say that it might not happen. 392 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,399 » But I mean, in your backtory, so what >> in any business you have acceptability 393 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,240 of >> it is that's that's part of business. 394 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:17,120 Yes. Mayor, if I could just say a couple words on that. um that's been involved 395 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:26,080 in city managers searches and couple big ones recently and another one right now 396 00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:32,559 and you know my experience has been that it's a heart condition that matters okay 397 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:40,960 and I've looked at the rotation of uh interums that we've 398 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:45,679 had here in full time And when Shannon got here and she's 399 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:49,080 right, she didn't know anything. Okay. Other than being 400 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:58,480 her heart, right? And I really understand what you're saying, 401 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:04,880 » Nicole. You know, it's all well taken. Just don't shrug it off. It's something 402 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:11,279 that you got to deal with. But, um, you know, I looked at Melissa's resume 403 00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:15,080 and I talked to her after she What the hell are you thinking? 404 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:23,279 Why would you leave that position to do that? I I think I won't tell her 405 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:29,279 answer. She wasn't confidence, but that's for her to tell you. I'd ask her 406 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:35,360 that question. What the hell you think? Pardon my profanity. 407 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:41,760 I'm with you on that. I was the same thing this evening. Same exact thing. I 408 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:46,480 mean, so I mean, it gets down to what you council members have to do. It's in 409 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:51,120 the best interest of the village. Okay. You're fortunate that Shannon has helped 410 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:55,600 turn the tide >> and you know, but Shann's not the police 411 00:33:53,600 --> 00:34:00,559 department. You know, they're they're doing their part. So, you've got a lot 412 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:05,600 of positive going on and it's good to see. 413 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:10,720 » You know, I'm just not an outside interest here. I'm fully invested and 414 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:15,119 want this village to succeed. Been through a lot. I think the future looks 415 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:19,159 bright. The next choice that you make, it's going to have to be good. 416 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:28,639 » I keeping Shannon on board in some capacity, but you know, I work closely 417 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:33,760 with Shannon. I can tell you there's been days where I just thought we roll 418 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:39,200 over. But go ahead. That's my two cents. 419 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:45,079 » Thank you, >> J. I'm sorry, too. 420 00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:45,079 » No, no, no. I was 421 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:55,599 » Okay. Um, I just have a couple of comments. I I reviewed all of these in 422 00:34:51,679 --> 00:35:00,480 pretty good detail actually and uh I did some research myself 423 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:06,720 and if you guys get a chance and you look at 424 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:12,880 the new Lebanon charter section 4.01 under Minnesota manager qualifications 425 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:17,280 and spec specifically states uh manager be chosen by council on the basis of its 426 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:21,359 judgment of such persons executive and administrative qualifications and 427 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:26,480 abilities as evidenced by such person's training experience public 428 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:30,720 administration or otherwise that that kind of opened my eyes the 429 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:37,359 otherwise part um I too am in in agreement with with 430 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:42,720 Nicole um on Mr. Mr. Hager. Um, but I I'm also in agreement with with Melissa 431 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:48,079 and a head officer, so I'm kind of right with you in line with that. But 432 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:52,320 as for the others, I appreciate what they've done, but I look at it 433 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:57,520 differently. Um, most of these people have never been 434 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:02,480 in our community. They've never sat at a council meeting. They've never gone 435 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:07,040 through and heard and talked and seen what we have gone through. I think 436 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:12,800 that's important. Most of these these individuals 437 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:18,800 um have not seen what we have done in the 438 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:24,560 last two years and three months for this community. I too am being sued. Nicole 439 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,960 and I have been on the same bus since February 7th 440 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,320 and we're fighting and we're winning because the cases are getting thrown 441 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,839 out. So something must be right. we must be winning because we're telling the 442 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:43,280 truth about stuff and they don't have nothing. So, that's what I'm leaning 443 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:48,880 towards. I I think Melissa is lacking in some municipal experience and 444 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:54,560 knowledge, but Shannon Beimis was too. And look how far she's gotten us. She's 445 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:58,640 found $365,000 in back taxes that people owe this community. She's saved us 446 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,079 money. Look at our police department. Look at our fire department. Look at the 447 00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:07,839 progressive things that have happened to this community since she took the seats. 448 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:13,920 And I think that that with her help and her guidance and her attitude, I think 449 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:17,920 that Melissa would be a good asset with some training. Now, let me back up. I 450 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:25,040 agree with what Nicole says with the cronyism and nepotism and all that, but 451 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:29,520 that didn't stop the previous people that were here. It did the same thing. 452 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:33,680 Now, are we any better than them? You want my opinion? We are because we've 453 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:40,000 proven ourselves and and we're working hard towards that. Okay. Um, 454 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:45,200 so the the the the individuals that that 455 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:49,040 sent over resumes and we've talked to, I appreciate what they've done. Um, most 456 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:54,240 of them have medical experience and training as everybody has indicated. Um, 457 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,400 do they have the knowledge and experience? Probably not. 458 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:02,720 But neither does Melissa. But Melissa's been 459 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:06,480 involved in every council meeting since 2017. She knows what's been going on in 460 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,400 this community. She's helping in this community. She's been a part of this 461 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:14,720 community. She lives in this community. So that's 50 60% of what we're looking 462 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,960 for right off the bat. Can she be trained? Sure, she can. Can she go to 463 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:23,599 OML conferences and schools and training and all that like Mr. Wilder and the 464 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:28,560 vice mayor and I did? Absolutely. So, it's not like we're shooting ourselves 465 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:34,800 in the foot by selecting somebody that does not know anything about this 466 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:38,960 community. Okay. I also agree um Nicole with you on Mr. Wolf. Mr. Wolf is 467 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:43,359 absolutely a no-go. That dude's being sued all over the place and he's done 468 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:49,680 illegal stuff. We don't want him. >> Um Mr. Carter, who has been to three 469 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:53,839 council meetings since 2017, likes to proclaim how good he is and how better 470 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:57,680 he is than everybody else and that we're afraid of him is why we haven't hired 471 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:02,320 him. The the Did he serve his country 472 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:08,880 honorably? Sure he did. He he did what he did for his country. but to to talk 473 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:12,800 down to the leadership of this community, to talk down to the the 474 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:16,720 attorney, to talk down to the police department with comments on social 475 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:22,400 media, which I have right here cuz I've saved them for the last eight months. 476 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:27,440 Um, that's an issue. >> And he's been to three council meetings 477 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:31,200 since 2017. And then he has the audacity to come out and say that we're political 478 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:35,599 idiots. Do we want somebody like that as our 479 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:41,839 leader of this community who calls the current council members and the mayor 480 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:47,599 political idiots and a weak city management system against policies. I 481 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:52,960 think our policies are straight up. If you don't think the policies are right, 482 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:56,160 look at our our updates in our on our uh chart that's been that we've been 483 00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:02,640 working on. Look at what's been going on. We've been working forward, working 484 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:09,119 hard to move forward. So, if if I had a choice and and it's not a choice 485 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:15,760 tonight, I I agree with you. I would cut it down to two. It would be Melissa or a 486 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:23,280 head hunter. That would be my choice. Okay. Um I I appreciate everybody else 487 00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:29,520 who has applied. Um, I appreciate their time and their efforts, but we have to 488 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:32,800 do something that's difficult for us to make decisions on and what we have to 489 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,720 do. And what we have to do is support our community and what our community 490 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,400 needs. And I I think that's what we need. I think we need somebody that's 491 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:43,839 been in this town, that lives in this community, been here, I don't know, two 492 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:50,400 years, Shannon, I don't know how long she lived in this town. Um, I I I think 493 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:55,760 that that's what we need to focus on. I think the past is behind us. I think we 494 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,400 need to move forward and we can't make a mistake and select somebody 495 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,800 » Yeah. >> that uh we just don't know anything 496 00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:06,960 about and we know everything about Melissa Son and that's my opinion about 497 00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:11,760 it. >> I felt that was a positive in my book. I 498 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:17,680 mean not being partial but I I would rather 499 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:20,880 know the person that's working within than not because we're going in blind 500 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,800 with the others. That's right. And and and Mr. Welder, I'm sorry to cut you off 501 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:29,760 and interrupt you, but look look what this lady has done, working together, 502 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:35,839 mind you, with our acting village manager for a day at the park. The last 503 00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:38,880 two years have been a 1,000% success. >> Hard work 504 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:44,240 » that they have done. And they worked together in a position with two former 505 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,640 managers that give that didn't really give two hoops about the community, 506 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,560 » right? >> And look how successful it was. Imagine 507 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,760 them working together here and how successful they will be. And and that's 508 00:41:52,800 --> 00:42:00,560 how I'm looking at it. And and that's that's what I'm leaning towards. But I 509 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:04,400 agree with you, Nicole. I I think if uh I think it's I think it's warranted if 510 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:08,480 Shannon would stick on for a little bit longer. I think it's warranted to talk 511 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:14,240 to a head hunter, maybe get a few more, review them, um and go from there and 512 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:18,079 see where we're at with it. If I had a choice tonight, I would select Melissa 513 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:22,319 and then I would accept her resignation as the mayor and then we'd submit our 514 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,200 30-day letter to bring somebody else up to 515 00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:30,280 » talk about process. >> Go ahead. 516 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,280 Just a thought on 517 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:39,599 you may want to consider before you get a deadline interview to what council 518 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:44,240 considers top executive session next meeting and you 519 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,920 know council be ready just >> I think that would be a great idea. 520 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:51,839 » So before you go through the process ahead because you just get a night head 521 00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:55,920 » I know >> you're going to get what you pay for 522 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:59,599 » just a couple of them I you do a decent search, you're going to be between 15 523 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:07,040 and 25 gram. >> So, that's just an FYI. So, and then in 524 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,640 terms of if you get to a preferred candidate, okay, it's not just, hey, 525 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,920 you're hired. >> Sure. Sure. 526 00:43:11,839 --> 00:43:14,880 » It's, you know, you'd have to authorize me to, 527 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,000 » right, >> prepare a contract that council would 528 00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:25,680 approve the basic terms of >> and then engage in negotiations. 529 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,440 Anyhow, I just wanted to get Yeah, this I think we're in an early we're not 530 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,800 going to rush through this by no means. This is something that we really need to 531 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:36,960 think hard about and and move forward. And that's if we have to do another work 532 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:43,599 session or two work sessions out there too. Even though you guys say it doesn't 533 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:49,720 look like for him to vote for Melissa if she did come on, it's going to look bad 534 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,720 because it is family. 535 00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:58,000 » That's just being honest. I'm going to tell you the community. They had a 536 00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:02,079 problem with Gail voting and I'm sorry Gail and I'm not trying to be mean. They 537 00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:07,839 had a problem with Gail voting on Glenn's contract when Glenn his daughter 538 00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:14,119 worked for Glenn that was out there. 539 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,119 » That's blood. 540 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:26,319 » You don't get it. His daughter was not blood to Glenn. No, it's blood to him. 541 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,880 » I know, but his daughter was not blood to Glenn. 542 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:33,359 » He's the one voting. >> Yeah, he voted and it had nothing to do 543 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:40,000 with his daughter, but his daughter worked for Glenn. People be mad enough 544 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:45,920 to make comments or >> so. But I don't want to make comments. I 545 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:49,839 do think it looks sad >> for having a family member even though 546 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:55,520 it's not blood. >> His his nephew still benefits 547 00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:59,440 from because he's married to Melissa. 548 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480 » But we got some we got some discussion to do. 549 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,079 » Okay. >> Um 550 00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:09,760 Mike, if you if you approve, I think uh um we ought probably ought to have an 551 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,200 executive session, talk about it again. do some interviewing. 552 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:16,160 » Okay. >> Um I don't know have everybody 553 00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:19,680 » do an interview >> or 554 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:24,960 session or discuss it. >> Yeah, I think that would be good. I mean 555 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:28,079 because last time I think there's concern that not all council 556 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,680 participated. >> So it all 557 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:38,880 you'd have to leave it mayor. >> That's right. That's not um 558 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:41,839 » you know we we'll identify one or two questions and you know so it's not an 559 00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:47,520 all nighter or whatever >> but I think that would be our next stop 560 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:51,440 if everybody's comfortable with that we'll do another work set or at an 561 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,160 executive session maybe if not the next meeting the meeting after that whatever 562 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:57,839 we need to do whatever the timing >> we'll do executive session see how far 563 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:02,160 we get if you want to make a decision after the executive session in terms of 564 00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:06,240 what direction you want to head >> based upon those interviews 565 00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:10,160 You can't make the decision executive session but you come out here and 566 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:12,720 debate. >> Okay. 567 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:17,359 » Is everybody in agreeance with that? You want to do that? 568 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,319 » All right. Um I don't think I need to. Anybody have 569 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,240 anything else? Any other comments or questions? 570 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:26,720 » And I'm not trying to be mean in any way. No, you're right. I'm willing. 571 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:33,119 » And you know what? We're doing >> I will I have nothing against me against 572 00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:38,240 Mr. W. I'm just I just wanted to let everybody know it's just epic. 573 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:41,520 » And you know what? I'm with you. I'm tired of being sued. 574 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,040 » I just I'm not going to go through that motion. Okay. 575 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,119 » Yep. >> All right. Um I'd like to do a motion to 576 00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:50,960 go ahead and terminate this work session. 577 00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:56,480 » Second. >> Sorry. Council member Atkins. 578 00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:00,160 » Yes. Mayor Cooper. >> Yes. 579 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:03,760 Mayor Mayor. >> Yes. Council 580 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,520 Wilder. >> Yes. 581 00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:08,000 » Council member Joy. >> Yes. 582 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,960 » And >> Okay. Can somebody go out and holler for 583 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:17,960 her? >> And then we're going to take 584 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:17,960 we'll take 10 minutes. 585 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,119 going 586 00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:44,599 out. 587 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,720 Senator 588 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:15,400 You know, there's two ways to 589 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,240 Friday night. 590 00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,079 All 591 00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:17,599 right, everybody. Good evening. Sorry for the delay. We appreciate your 592 00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:20,599 patience. We'll go ahead and get started. 593 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,760 I'd like to call to order this March 3rd, 2026 regular council meeting. 594 00:49:25,839 --> 00:49:31,319 Please rise for the invocation. Standing for a pledge of alleg 595 00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:43,680 to put aside personal agendas and work together in harmony. 596 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:48,000 Grant us the patience to listen to one another and the courage to do what is 597 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:51,839 right for the common good. May our work tonight strengthen the 598 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:56,240 bonds of our community. We pray that you continue to protect the 599 00:49:53,839 --> 00:50:01,119 citizens of our community, our public service workers, our firefighters, our 600 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:06,119 medics, and our police department. In the name we pray. Amen. 601 00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:06,119 » Amen. 602 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:17,040 America and to the republic for it stands one nation 603 00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:20,040 indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 604 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:29,079 » Okay. Next is verbal roll call. Council members present for the record. 605 00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:36,079 » Vice Mayor Cooper >> council member Joy 606 00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:37,520 » council member present. Council member Wilder 607 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,040 » present. >> Mayor 608 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,040 » present. >> Nico 609 00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:48,319 that's the approval of the February 17, 2026 regular council meeting minutes. 610 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:51,480 Are there any corrections or changes to these minutes? 611 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:59,079 » Do I have a motion to approve the February 17, 2026 regular council 612 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,079 meeting minutes? 613 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:09,760 » All those in favor say I. Anyone opposed? 614 00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:16,559 » Uh, yes. One. No. Motion carries. >> Okay. Before we uh move on to unfinished 615 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:20,000 business, Chelsea Fry, school nurse for the school, elementary, middle, which 616 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,559 one is it? Both of them. All of them. >> All of them. 617 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:29,000 » I guess uh you have some information you'd like to pass on about the blue 618 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:29,000 envelope program. 619 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,280 » You can come up here and talk to if you like. Either one. 620 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:41,520 » It's up to you. >> Okay, that's fine. 621 00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:45,240 » Envelope. Can you hear me? No. >> No. Is it turned off? 622 00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:01,680 » Okay. So, Chief Town is Okay. So, we'll do both. I am actually here to speak 623 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:05,839 about friends of first responders. It's um a new initiative program that we are 624 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:10,640 starting in partnership with New London Police and Fire. So, Chief Cman, they 625 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:15,599 the New London police are starting the blue envelope. This is drivers on the 626 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:21,760 autistic spectrum. So, this program is for drivers specific who have autism. 627 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:25,520 So, anyone in our community who um is on the spectrum will receive a blue 628 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:31,200 envelope if they choose. I'm you can pick one up at the school or here at the 629 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:36,800 village office. And it's a program that's been adopted through other 630 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:43,119 communities and what it is is a letter for these people. Um, and it gives some 631 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:50,160 tips on what they can do um if they are driving and get pulled over because 632 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:54,720 people on the sector do have um so 633 00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:57,839 I was not prepared to speak on this program. This was Do you want to speak 634 00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:00,319 on this program and I'll speak on mine and then we'll piggy back because 635 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:07,000 they're they're one and the same but mine addresses students and drivers and 636 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:07,000 his address drivers. 637 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:23,359 » So basically I want to give police department for helping us and 638 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:28,720 Sergeant Thomas for getting for this. What the blue envelope program does if 639 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:36,400 we pull someone over, it enables the law enforcement officer to be able to uh 640 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:41,920 recognize and handle the situation accordingly. And every officer will have 641 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:46,960 this blue or every driver will have this blue envelope. They get pulled over, 642 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:53,760 they show a blue envelope, and inside it, it will tell us name, date of birth, 643 00:53:50,960 --> 00:54:00,160 emergency contact, and their different like I I don't want to say triggers, but 644 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:06,079 how to react with that driver. So, what we're doing is we're implementing the 645 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:11,200 blue envelope here as well as when a new student starts or is in school and she 646 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:15,359 starts her program, they also say, "Okay, we also have the ones that are 647 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:20,559 going to be driving. New Avenue Police Department has this blue envelope 648 00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:27,520 program. So, they'll be in that and this. Our our goal is to ensure that we 649 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:34,800 are able to interact with autistic children. We don't want to be, you know, 650 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:40,319 unaware of what they what their triggers are. It enables us to have a safe and 651 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:44,480 effective interaction with the driver. Some jurisdictions have a color seat 652 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:48,960 belt. We haven't gone that far. We're going to start with this. If we get a 653 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,680 lot of buy in, which I think we will, we're going to expand to say, "Okay, 654 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:59,839 here's a blue envelope." Um, the goal is to roll this out April 1st. And at which 655 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:05,280 time, since Sergeant Thomas is the traffic guy, is to have him explain it 656 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:10,640 to the families if they need it. And then, you know, we'd like to get into 657 00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:15,119 the schools and drivers in and um explain this to them also. So, this goes 658 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:20,319 out April 1st. We're going to start the blue envelope for our autistic drivers. 659 00:55:17,839 --> 00:55:25,760 Now, I don't think we have any drivers yet. And that's why since she'll know 660 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:29,599 who they are, we can bring the families in or she can bring families in. Okay, 661 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:35,160 this is our program, but oh, by the way, we have this you might want to look into 662 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,160 also. 663 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:48,240 Okay. So, my program u is called friends and first responders and empowering 664 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:52,240 connections. So, the program goal is to foster meaningful connections and build 665 00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:56,160 trust between first responders and children and students with diverse 666 00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,079 abilities preschool through 12th grade by increasing awareness, interaction, 667 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:04,400 and communications. This initiative aims to create a safer, more inclusive 668 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:08,640 community where students feel recognized and supported by their local heroes. 669 00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:12,160 Additionally, it seeks to familiarize first responders with effective 670 00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:16,400 communication tools and strategies to better assist and engage with students 671 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,000 who have limited or alternative communication methods, ensuring positive 672 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,760 interactions in all community encounters. So, why this program 673 00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:28,400 matters? A couple years ago, we actually had an elementary student leave home and 674 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:32,640 one of our new police officers found him at a gas station. Uh the student was 675 00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:38,079 nonverbal and unable to communicate their name or address. So with this 676 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:42,319 program, it highlighted a gap and it's not about the care, it's about the 677 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:46,880 tools. So this program fills that gap. So each of our 678 00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:52,960 police cruisers is going to have a binder. And currently we have 31 679 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:58,400 families. We identified 33 families in our school district and 31 families are 680 00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:03,839 participating. So each of the police cruise providers will have an AAC 681 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:07,599 communication board. So this stands for augmentative and alternative 682 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:11,359 communication. All of our students with autism nonverbal or limited 683 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:15,920 communication is familiar with this. They typically have an iPad. Obviously 684 00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:20,640 this is an iPad in age care. So we made a custom board for New London police and 685 00:57:17,839 --> 00:57:25,680 fire that is specific to first responders and um other things and 686 00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:29,440 questions that they may ask on a call. So, this isn't just for if a student's 687 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:34,079 lost. If there is a medical emergency and JC has to respond, they will be able 688 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:38,079 to communicate with that child. Um same with the police if they get pulled over 689 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:41,760 or um or if they just see them in the community and have them play basketball 690 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:46,240 with some of them. So, just that interaction with our local heroes at a 691 00:57:44,319 --> 00:57:52,000 community level. In addition, we have a sensory bag. So, 692 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:56,640 a lot of students with autism or diverse abilities 693 00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:02,160 respond to tactile stimulation and different sensory items. So, in this bag 694 00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:07,839 we have um a sensory brush, we have fidgets, we have putty, we have 695 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:13,200 sunglasses if the lights are too bright. And then we also have 696 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:17,200 another communication device. We have a quick reference guide. So, along with 697 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:21,520 this binder, we are going to do a roll call training with 698 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:26,319 and the fire just to educate them a little bit more on autism, developmental 699 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:32,240 delays, limited communication, how to use the AAC device, and then some 700 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:37,280 deescalation techniques. And then our third tab here is like I 701 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:41,839 said, we have 31 families who have bought into the program out of 33 and 702 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,040 that's not those are just families that we identified at a school level. That 703 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:48,319 doesn't include homeschooling students or other students who might attend 704 00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:53,280 outside of our district church. So anybody, this is open to anybody who 705 00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:56,240 lives in New Leon. They can um contact me. They can contact the police 706 00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:03,520 department and we will get them in this binder if they choose to. So we 707 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:06,799 made a map of the 31 students who are participating. This map is an 708 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:12,960 interactive Google map and it dropped a pen at each of their addresses. So our 709 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:19,680 police department will have the map and Each student has an ID card and Harry 710 00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:24,000 Cameron's mom convented to show you guys, but we have all 31 students in 711 00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:30,240 here. They each have an ID card and that is a picture of the student, their name, 712 00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:34,880 their address, the parents name, parents phone number, and then three things that 713 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:39,359 the child likes or enjoys. So, this is just to help our police and fire if they 714 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:44,799 come up and see Cameron here. He loves cars. So if he's um escalated or if 715 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:48,240 there's they need to distract him in some way, they can say, "Oh, I hear you 716 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:54,160 like cars, or I hear you like drawing, or can you draw me something?" 717 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:59,040 And then our third tab is just um it's about our program. It's 718 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:02,799 the annual initiative plan. So parents, if they, like I said, if there's a 719 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:06,079 homeschool family or somebody who's not participating and they would like to 720 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:10,880 participate in this program, they can give them a copy of our program or 721 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:15,119 goals. And then um a letter to the parent just explaining what all we need 722 01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:19,440 from them. And then there's also a consent form where the parent fills out 723 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:23,920 the student's name, the grade, teacher address, um, and just three things that 724 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:27,040 they like. And then the last part, like I said, 725 01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:32,799 we're going to do a training with our first responders and we are implementing 726 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:37,680 this on April 1st. And it piggybacks off of the blue 727 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:42,559 envelope program like he had said, those are for drivers, but these 31 students 728 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:46,319 that we identified are non-drivers. So, how can we meet the needs of these 729 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:51,440 children as well? So, supporting them when they do get to driving age. 730 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:56,400 Anybody have anything? Any questions on that? 731 01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:01,920 » I think it's a great idea. Super great idea. Thanks for doing this. Super 732 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:06,400 great. I do have a request. Can we get a binder, a complete binder to have here 733 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:10,319 as a reference for the village here just in case somebody should stop by and want 734 01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:15,119 to see or talk or >> Yes. So, we have eight Well, we have 735 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,960 nine binders total. Um, eight for eight cruisers and then one for the fire, but 736 01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:21,599 we can make another one. I just the cement.