[0:03] Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, welcome to the public session of the [0:07] mayor and council for August. At this time, I'd ask everyone to please rise [0:11] for a moment of silent prayer and reflection. Since our last meeting, [0:15] there has been a number of devastating earthquakes uh, including Mexico, Peru, [0:20] Argentina, and Colombia. So, we think about the people that are s [0:32] Please allegiance [laughter] to the flag of the [0:36] United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation [0:42] under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [0:46] » Thank you. >> Before we start, please note the fire [0:49] exits behind you into the main parking lot. To my left, your right is in the [0:52] main hallway. The New Jersey Open Public Meetings Law [0:55] was enacted to ensure the right of the public to have advanced notice of and [0:58] attend any meetings of public bodies at which any business affecting their [1:02] interest is discussed or acted upon. In accordance to this act, the mayor and [1:05] council of the Bur Milford have closed notice of this meeting to be published [1:08] by having the date, time, and place thereof posted in the burough hall and [1:12] on the burough website. The mission of this governing body is to provide [1:15] essential services through the establishment implementation of public [1:18] policy that will safeguard the infrastructure. Provide fair, honest, [1:21] courteous and professional services, establish a sense of trust and [1:25] accomplishment between all residents and through research and prudent planning [1:28] seek to minimize risk while improving our services. We are sensitive to the [1:32] needs and satisfaction of our taxpayers while realizing that this governing body [1:35] cannot be all things to all people within the revenue constraints imposed [1:39] by state mandates, economic conditions, and prevailing attitudes about taxation. [1:43] At this time, I would ask the clerk to please call the role. [1:46] » Councilwoman Sam Houston >> here. [1:49] » Councilman Zylmer >> here. [1:51] » Councilwoman Duffy >> here. [1:54] » Councilman Gratzky >> here. [1:56] » Council President Seymour >> here. [1:58] » Councilwoman Grant >> here. Mayor Patino here. [2:02] » Okay. First thing on the agenda tonight is a few appointments. May I get a [2:06] motion to appoint Robert Belto to recreation advisory board as a regular [2:10] member, Joseph Langshields to the Recreation Advisory Board as alternate [2:14] one, and Charles Daring to Recreation Advisory Board alternate two. [2:19] » Motion. >> Second. [2:21] » All in favor? >> Any opposed? Thank you very much for [2:25] your service and continued service. Under unfinished business, may I get [2:31] approval of the minutes from the July 27th, 2026 public and close session [2:35] meetings? >> Second. [2:39] » All in favor? >> Any opposed? [2:41] » I have to abstain. One. [2:46] » Okay. We have one ordinance up for adoption tonight. That would be 2026 col [2:51] 20. And when the clerk has the opportunity, I would ask a key please [2:55] read the >> an ordinance to change the name of a [2:58] portion of a certain street in the Burton Milford thereby extending the [3:03] limits of Robert Chester way. Purpose of this ordinance is to extend the limits [3:07] of the street Robert Chester way to include recreational facilities north of [3:11] Patrol and Raywood Drive to facilitate swift and proper response in the case of [3:15] an emergency. Make a motion to open to the public for [3:18] a public hearing on this ordinance. So moved. [3:22] » Second. >> All in favor? Any opposed? Ladies and [3:26] gentlemen of the public, if anyone has any questions or comments regarding this [3:29] ordinance, now is your opportunity to come forward. [3:35] Seeing that no member of the public wishes to comment on this ordinance at [3:38] this time, I would ask for a motion to close the public. [3:40] » Motion. All >> favor. I [3:44] may get a motion to adopt this ordinance on its final reading. Motion second. I [3:49] get a roll call, please. >> Councilwoman Sanusen, [3:52] » yes. >> Councilman Zylner, [3:54] » yes. >> Councilwoman Duffy, [3:56] » yes. >> Councilman Gratzky, [3:58] » yes. >> Council President Seymour, [4:01] » yes. >> Councilwoman Grant, [4:02] » yes. >> Okay. [4:07] » Okay. Item number one under new business is schedule updates. [4:14] » Yes, the summer's over. So, here we go. On Friday, September 11th will be the [4:21] 25th anniversary remembrance ceremony sponsored by the New Milford Mayor and [4:25] Council and the New Milford Public Events Committee. It'll take place at [4:28] 6:00 p.m. on the Burough Hall lawn. >> Um, that's 3:30. [4:33] » I changed the Okay. >> Yeah, it's going to be 6:00. [4:39] » Um, and it's been going on in August and on August 31st will be the deadline. um [4:45] residents and organizations in town have been contributing and creating 8 by8 [4:49] origami cranes that are going to be a part of the display on that day. So we [4:53] thank everyone who's been doing that and facilitating it. [4:57] » So for clarity it's they have dis we submit our cranes by August 31st. [5:02] » By September 1st. Yes. >> By September 1st. Okay. Thank you. [5:08] On Sunday, September 13th will be the Elks Ultimate Breakfast sponsored by the [5:13] New Milford Elks Lodge. It'll be from 8 to 11:30 a.m. at the New Milford Tech [5:18] Els Lodge on Raywoods. On Friday, October 2nd will be the New [5:23] Milford New Milford Fire Department's annual [5:27] golf outing sponsored by the New Milford Fire Department. It will be at 7:15 a.m. [5:31] at the Rockland Lake Park. If you have any if you want any more information, [5:36] please contact the New Milford Fire Department. [5:39] So, from Friday to Sunday, October 2nd to October 4th is the annual St. Joseph [5:45] Carnival sponsored by the St. Joseph School. On Friday, it'll be from 5 to [5:50] 10:00 p.m. On Saturday, it would be 2:00 to 10:00 p.m. And on Sunday, it'll be 1 [5:55] to 7:00 p.m. And it takes place on 105 Harrison Street in New Milk. [6:00] On Thursday, October 22nd is the lantern tour and ghost stories of the American [6:05] Revolution sponsored by the NEOA Historic Preservation Commission. It [6:08] will be at 7 p.m. and it'll take place at our historic French buring ground, [6:12] burial ground. Are there any items that are missed? [6:17] » Yes. Would you like to add? >> Yes. The Friends of the Library is [6:21] holding its annual book sale on Friday and Saturday, September 25th and 26th. [6:26] And on the 26th, there will also be a plant sale. And on September 26th and [6:32] 27th, uh they will hold the town like uh sale. Maps will be available on the [6:37] burrow website on the friends Facebook page and at the library started for a [6:42] second. >> Can you send me a flyer for that so I [6:44] can post? >> I believe I sent it to [6:46] » Oh, double check. [6:50] » Yep. >> I have an addition. October 3rd, [6:54] Saturday, the first Saturday is the annual clean communities day. [7:00] So 9:00 a.m. >> to 11. That's October 3rd. Saturday [7:05] October 3rd DPW. >> Mhm. [7:08] » Excellent. [7:11] » We'll send that out as well. Anything else? Okay. [7:19] Item number two is administrators report. [7:22] » Thank you, mayor. Um the engineering update. The DOT's approved the bid [7:26] documents for the roadway improvement project for Eastwood Grieve Bridge and [7:30] intersecting roadways. We're planning the bid solicitation to coincide with [7:35] the completion of public service work in that area which is expected to be [7:39] completed around midepptember. The pre-construction meeting for the [7:43] Clinton Avenue, Yugenot Road, Arlington Road, and Yale Street improvements is [7:48] scheduled for tomorrow, August 25th. Uh the engineer is following up with the [7:53] contractor on the final punch list item for main the main street improvement [7:57] project which is the staining of the stamped concrete. [8:00] We are awaiting an estimate for from the contractor for the proposed change order [8:04] to extend the project limits for the French Brook restoration project which [8:08] we finally received the D approval for. Plans and specifications for the Pine [8:14] Avenue and News Road sanitary sewer rehabilitation project are scheduled to [8:17] be ready to go out to bid by early September. and the engineer is preparing [8:21] the bid documents for the Williamsfield lighting improvement project. [8:27] The county is continuing its drainage replacement work in town with five [8:32] locations on Milford Avenue slated for repairs. They're expecting to start next [8:37] week at the intersection of Boulevard and Milford A. The plan and hope is that [8:42] it's going to be done before school. >> Plan and hope. Yes. [8:45] » Yes. And the work for the entire project is expected to last approximately 2 [8:50] weeks. And other than that, the only other thing is that the next mayor and [8:54] council will back to two meetings a month. So the work session scheduled for [8:58] Monday, September 14th at 7 p.m. Any questions for the mayor? [9:07] Has everyone had a chance to look at the resolutions? Are there any that need to [9:10] be pulled for further discussion and a vote? [laughter] [9:14] Right. [9:24] Let's go around for council committee reports and we will start with council. [9:30] » Thank you, mayor. Uh want to just say that national night out was a really [9:34] great success. The green team and the environmental commission both had tables [9:39] that were very well attended. the uh environmental commission had an [9:44] opportunity to talk to to the public about some of the projects they're doing [9:48] and uh they shared the the um community energy plan that they had just [9:54] completed. So the community energy plan is report has been sent in and that is a [10:00] two-year project done. So we're off to the next stage with that. Um, the green [10:07] team uh had gave away about 2,000 items provided by Sustainable Jersey and the [10:15] PSNG Foundation. So, we were grateful to have [10:19] those uh giveaways to give away to hand out. Uh the environmental commission uh [10:26] something that's coming up, they've been working on the uh site plan for the Pine [10:31] Avenue uh native plant and urban rain garden. So those are in revision with uh [10:37] feedback from mayor and council. We should be seeing uh something uh [10:42] September, October uh to finalize those plans and then the next stage would be [10:48] once you approve those, we'll send that to uh NJT to have them review the site [10:54] plan for that. And we had a very nice uh uh program this summer with Breers and [11:01] NJ Blue Acres visioning project. So there was a meeting in June and in [11:09] August uh last week we had a really great meeting where uh the Ruter [11:14] students uh had drawings and site plan uh uh drawings uh proposals that was [11:23] that were very well received by the public. So it was a very nice very nice [11:28] event. Um great ideas and what is happening next with that is the they're [11:35] working on the uh there was a lot of good feedback. They're working on [11:39] records is working on the revisions. they will send their final report by the [11:43] end of September to the NJD and uh once the NJD [11:50] uh approves and finalizes that new Milford will receive a uh a copy of [11:55] those site plans. So that's a a grant project. It's a pilot program that we [12:01] were selected to participate in. So this is a really great opportunity for new [12:07] Milford to uh do some have some fun have site plans provided for us at no cost [12:14] and uh then we can have some further discussions and see what happens next. [12:19] So I'm not sure if they need to go to where what the stage is next after that [12:25] if it goes into the master plan or what we need to talk about but we'll be [12:30] getting that report probably October. and I'm complete. Thank you. [12:36] » Excellent. Council Z. [12:39] » Thank you, Mayor. Uh I would also like to thank everybody involved in [12:43] organizing uh National Night Out. Uh everybody did an excellent job from [12:48] start to finish. Uh and everybody's raving about how great the fireworks [12:53] were. I had anybody I speak with. uh moving forward with the DPW. Uh [12:59] believe it or not, they're still cleaning up after a July 4th storm. [13:03] They're going around town now after they've trimmed all those trees. Now [13:06] they're going around performing stump removals. [13:10] Uh also currently they're repairing uh Kennedy Field. They have to have an [13:17] outside contractor who knows about turf to come in and do that. There's some [13:20] divids here and there that have to be repaired. [13:23] And at the north end of town where they started with the gas line, the new gas [13:28] lines like up by Webster and Prolanol, that's supposed to be uh uh the pad [13:35] supposed to begin sometime midepptember or maybe possibly soon. [13:42] Uh public events as the mayor was saying earlier about the organi project that [13:47] they took on uh it went very well. We had we had time spent at the senior [13:53] center, uh time spent at the library. Um it's it's a it's a little difficult to [14:01] do unless of course uh you like Bob there who put that [14:05] together in about [laughter] a minute. Maybe we could use him on the on the [14:10] crew. But uh there's var other than the committee, there's various volunteers [14:15] that that uh came and helped out. Uh and just to give you an idea up to now right [14:21] now uh we have 600 of them counted in bag here in the bar hole and I think [14:27] another 500 were dropped off this morning and then another barrier somehow [14:33] maybe 100 or a little less sometime this afternoon but uh we're expecting another [14:38] 1,200 and that would be something like 300 d from the senior center 200 from [14:45] varsity prep another 200 or more from the library [14:50] and uh another 200 additional from the Boy Scouts and 300 from the YMCA. This [14:56] is what we have planned on doing. So, we should I mean that number was seemed a [15:01] little high at first, but we're getting really close to it. [15:05] Uh planning board uh we had a meeting last week. Uh it was just a brief [15:09] meeting with the planner uh the engineer. We're just discussing [15:16] what is ahead of us because we're expecting within maybe the next week the [15:21] plans for course loads. So just giving giving us a little bit of [15:26] tutorial a heads up on what what to expect. That concludes my reports. Thank [15:32] you very much. Councilwoman Duffy. >> Thank you mayor. Um I would also like to [15:39] echo the sentiments about uh national night out. It was really a great event [15:45] along with the the police, the DPW, and the fire department. They really [15:51] delivered a wonderful event. Um, and I would also like to thank every single [15:58] vendor, whether it was, you know, 7-Eleven giving away slushies or, [16:06] you know, the the library and bookmarks and the PD with bicycle rules. Um [16:13] everything was just really great and to see all those people um you know sharing [16:22] in this community event was really great. So that said uh I also attended [16:30] uh the first blue acres meeting the visioning meeting with the Ruter [16:34] students. I found it to be really inspiring and I was not able to attend [16:40] the second but I'm looking forward to seeing that. That's wonderful. Um, also [16:48] this month I attended the opening of the revolutionary lives exhibit at our [16:55] library uh with an inspiring presentation delivered by Joe Cook, a [17:02] member of our Milford Historic Preservation Commission about the [17:08] battles and the lives, how they were affected, the the residents and the [17:14] soldiers. So, a a big thank you to uh Nancy Baron from the historic commission [17:22] and Katherine Riley from the library uh working together to bring this most [17:28] excellent uh project to the burrow was really wonderful. Um, also the [17:35] restoration at cemetery uh will commence sometime the week of [17:40] September 21st and they expect to complete this by midocctober. [17:46] And remember we we received a grant from the county and the burrow matched this [17:53] grant to uh complete this project. So we expect good things from uh this per this [18:02] uh professional. Uh that's my report. There's so much more but you know [18:09] I go on and on. So thank you. >> Thank you [18:12] » Randy. Councilwoman the uh exhibit at the library were New Milford is the only [18:17] town in Bergen County that got that right. I remember you telling me that. [18:23] » So people come out and see it. >> Thank you. [18:28] Thank you. >> I will be brief. Uh obviously National [18:32] Night Out was a big hit and at National Night Out the Shry Commission introduced [18:38] a uh high school contest for all high school seniors uh that's high school [18:44] students uh to uh paint the mural uh at uh PPW at the tree farm and uh there [18:53] will be a contest for that and uh it's being distributed throughout the school. [18:59] will be on social media and uh we'll see how well that goes on. It should be very [19:05] interesting event and uh submissions are going to be coming in and looking [19:10] forward to having spring by the students. That's it. [19:17] » Thank you. >> Thank you, mayor. I just [19:20] » I just want to echo everyone's sentiment. National Night Out was [19:23] awesome. Uh, and it really it's just great to see uh our fire department, [19:28] DPW, police department, and as as Councilwoman Duffy said, all of our [19:33] vendors come together and work as a team to present such a great event for our [19:37] community. And to see so many kids and and our residents out just having fun [19:41] and just as Councilman Zelner said, I haven't stopped hearing feedback either [19:46] and how great those fireworks were that it it was it was really really awesome. [19:50] I also really had a great time at the Rev 250 event hosted by the library. Uh [19:55] they did a wonderful job and I I can't thank the library enough for doing [19:59] everything they do for our town. That was really really well done. [20:03] our uh flood committee met and as always they're working hard to brainstorm new [20:08] ideas and new programs going into the fall and they have the work cut out for [20:12] them because as these storms come in and as flooding including flash flooding [20:17] becomes problematic they're hard at work trying to come up with solutions as well [20:22] as to brainstorm new creative and innovative ideas to recruit new members [20:25] so I couldn't be prouder to be part of that committee and it's it's it's a [20:29] great committee and they're working very hard uh the municipal alliance is [20:33] looking forward to resuming their meetings. They don't meet in the summer. [20:35] They'll start meeting again soon and looking forward to the resumption of uh [20:41] the Milford football mayor. So, go Nights. [20:44] » It's here. >> It's here. [20:45] » Thursday night. >> It's it's here Thursday night. And we [20:49] started planning this fall's domestic violence awareness symposium and we'll [20:52] have a firm date by the next meeting. And that's my report. [20:55] » Thank you, Councilwoman Grant. >> Thank you, Mayor. I feel everybody's [21:00] citizen of that national night out. It was really a tremendous evening. I'd [21:04] like to note that in addition to the library, the friends of the library see [21:08] the Newport Arts Committee was there and attracted some attention because it's [21:12] not as well known as some of the other organizations in town. We were happy to [21:16] be there. um the um the revolutionary the talk about the [21:24] revolutionary war at the library true in Milford and I'd like to add my thanks to [21:29] Stephanie Ster who's the library director and to the staff for organizing [21:33] it and putting it together. It took some time all those large um things that they [21:38] you know that had all the information you know came each one of those came in [21:41] a separate suitcase and had to be assembled and then disassembled at the [21:46] end of it. But the talk was very interesting. The speaker book was [21:48] dynamic and I think everybody who was there you know learned a lot and had a [21:52] terrific time. Um the rent level is not [laughter] sed in September and um the [22:00] book sale and the garage sale coming up next month. So more information. [22:06] » Thank you. >> Thank you. Yes, I will echo the same [22:10] sentiments and national night out it gets better and better every year it [22:13] seems. So, we're very happy that that program keeps going and going. Uh, as [22:18] Council Council President Seymour said, so this Thursday night is New Milford's [22:21] opening football game. The games at 6:00, but if you come on down to the [22:26] pavilion around 5:00, you will find yourself in a tailgate party as well as [22:31] a media event sponsored by the high school where they'll be doing kind of [22:35] like interviews with coaches and players. Like, it's ESPN game day and [22:39] we're in the Southeast Conference. So, that's what we're kind of that's what [22:41] we're kind of going for. uh historic historically bridge landing. [22:46] I always say check out their website. They are continuing to run um programs, [22:50] tours, and events, especially for the uh America 250. It's just wonderful being [22:55] down there, you know, during the season. Back to school is coming up, so I remind [23:00] everyone to be careful on the roads. Do not pass buses. Be cognizant of [23:05] crosswalks. Our crossing guards will be out there. It is the most dangerous job [23:08] in America. So, keep that in mind. I know the parents are kind of upset [23:13] school's starting again, but you know, we're going to deal with it and uh hope [23:18] it all goes well. Good luck to all our students [23:21] and uh that's the only updates I have for now. [23:26] » May I get a motion to open to the public? [23:28] » Motion second. >> All in favor? [23:32] » Any opposed? Ladies and gentlemen, the public, if anyone has any questions or [23:35] comments related to the good welfare department of Milford, we invite you to [23:38] come up and we'll give you five minutes. [23:43] I got a question. >> Just ask me to give us your name. [23:48] » James Blastoski. >> Could you spell that for me? [23:51] » Pardon? >> Could you spell your last name for me? [23:53] » W A S L A W S K I. >> I'm live at 215 road and I'm Is there a [24:01] microphone thing missing? >> I'm not sure. [24:06] Okay, it's Yeah, good. Okay. So, uh, Council President, uh, Seymour, [24:13] I don't know, you talked about the flood mitigation committee looking for [24:17] volunteers. I'm I'm kind of interested in that. Um, [24:20] » excellent. >> I'm in my third year. We've been here [24:24] three years in the Milford and I'm waiting to come. I'm on vacation. I'm a [24:27] New York City high school principal. I'm taking my week off. Well, I know the [24:31] week, but >> thank you for your service. [24:32] » Thank you. Um, and I'm concerned about the uh flash [24:37] flooding and then just the way water is clearing or not clearing as it did from [24:42] year one which had some rain. Not like the rain had this summer but um it's [24:47] something that I noticed as I commute in and out of the of the town and have [24:51] different routes to take a time. So I it's in the back of my mind. One of the [24:55] reasons I want to go to the town hall just to listen to see what is what's [24:58] what's in the plans, what's in the works for um we're having a good summer [25:02] actually. The trees have been dry and hopefully we won't have any uh wildfire [25:06] smoke this year and my my yard is doing is very happy. But I'm also looking at [25:10] the amount of standing water, how long it takes the water to drain over the [25:14] road. And I'm just wondering I had my first three weeks here in our house had [25:20] uh learned about the uh drainage and sewage on that street which is not [25:25] something I would have thought um I would have known about. So my my house [25:30] had a house draft and backed up of course and then the contractor came to [25:34] take that out or to fix the problem discovered that the actual drain for [25:39] that road is on the other side of the street. You think it's usually in the [25:42] middle of the roads where most culverts are. Um this is not the case. It's like [25:47] a long run and a very very shallow drop. So houses on the visit the visit the [25:54] north side. Yes. the north side of the street have a long run to the drain. [26:00] Also noticing that at 217 uh Woodland Road that's a drain that constantly [26:06] backs up the the the street drain. Standing water stands in front of my [26:11] house and comes up on the lawn. So, typical thing in my backyard, my front [26:15] yard in this case, the increase between [26:20] any any thoughts about volunteers or the planning around that or if you'd like to [26:25] volunteer for any of our committees, you can find the information on our website. [26:29] There's a citizen leadership form that we ask that you fill out and submit. [26:33] Okay, I didn't see that yet, but I think if you go under resources and check, [26:38] there's also, I think, a button for volunteers. So, okay. And just put that [26:42] back that what's the name of the committee? [26:43] » Flood uh advisory education. >> I did come to a meeting uh in this [26:49] school a couple months ago by a plan. I think it was gray zoning uh the housing [26:54] got the house to [27:00] » was it the visioning meeting that we talked about? Yeah. I have the one in [27:04] June probably. Yeah. Bunch of questions from that meeting. Um yeah and then [27:10] there was an ordinance that was passed last month that you just uh voted on I [27:14] think you voted on last month about different views. So, you know, my fear [27:18] is state data centers setting up in great zones where we have housing now [27:22] where they get taken out. The zone housing flies and it's a a potential [27:27] flood risk and data centers across approaching towns of the size that goes [27:33] cash and >> anything that we're any homes that are [27:36] being removed, it's to remain vacant land green space. [27:39] » Yes. Okay. Thank you. That's all. >> Thank you. [27:42] » Thank you. Thank you. [27:49] Seeing that no other member of the public wishes to come forward at this [27:52] time, we'll ask for a motion to close the motion. [27:55] » All in favor? >> Any opposed? [28:00] Making a motion to adopt resolutions 2026 column 206 through 2026 colon 216. [28:08] Motion >> second. [28:10] » All in favor? >> Any opposed? [28:13] Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to be going into close session. Uh when we [28:17] come out of close session, this governing body will take no action and [28:20] we will immediately adjourn. So at this time, I just wanted to wish everyone [28:25] happy end of summer. >> Thank you. [28:26] » Have a good night. Motion. >> Thank you. [28:30] » And just uh for you, sir, just so this past summer, we're over 200% [28:36] » wetter than we than the average July and August in our area. So it's been crazy. [28:40] So yes, >> you're right. And that's that's sort of [28:44] the prediction for the northeastern climate zone is that we'll have few dry [28:48] years intense wetness wear glasses everywhere [28:53] and uh like >> thank you for volunteers. [29:01] So thank you for your passion. See what open is just starting to take [29:07] time. >> No, thank you for coming. [29:08] » What time is it high school principal? We have lots of athletics in the Bronx [29:12] and uh you know my day at 6:00 to 6:00 p.m. [29:15] » What school? >> I I have a small school uh but I started [29:19] 13 years ago at the T educational campus in districts. [29:22] » Oh wow. I went to PS83 where [29:25] » 83 in the Awesome. Right near High School. [29:31] » Okay. District 10. Yeah. >> My wife teaches in Westchester. [29:34] » My first school is there. >> My wife teaches special ed in [29:36] Westchester. >> All right. [29:38] » At the Greenberg 11 Middle School. >> Where? [29:39] » The Greenberg 11 Middle School for special needs. [29:42] » Yes. >> Yeah. And uh at Children's Village. So [29:46] » Okay. >> Yes. That's where my wife. [29:52] » So I I I retirement spot. [29:55] » My condolences for your >> My condolences for your commute. [30:01] » Oh, really? Guys, it's really it's 9.3 miles and uh have barely enough. [30:05] » Okay. >> Uh hey, it was a newspaper that you [30:08] check out. Uh it was a local section. >> You know, I drive the same lane, you [30:14] know, but Kevin and uh found out that the state hired a [30:19] contractor >> to adjust the cameras on the bridge and [30:22] the contractor came up with a legal rates. [30:25] » Oh, that was you. >> I read that story. [30:27] » Yeah, that was me. >> Very interesting. [30:29] » Wow. that people charge 15% 19. It's $2.76 [30:35] more >> because your easy pass is from New [30:37] Jersey and not New York or the other way around or something like Jersey to But [30:42] there was there was some reason for it. Yeah, I did read that. [30:46] » No, actually the only reason for it was that they never told anybody that you [30:50] know certain of a certain vintage need. >> Oh, right, right, right. I have a New [30:54] York one still New York. >> But if you had a different if you had [30:58] the other version, it didn't matter. They said, "Yeah." [31:00] » To me, the other issue, the real issue, which they didn't really feature in [31:04] article, was that no one made it public to say that a nonvoted upon contractor [31:11] came up with a midplay rate. How many of us here check your easy pass balance? [31:16] That's your statements. >> I did almost never. [31:20] » And I do because it took me 2 years to get off auto replenish, right? It takes [31:24] forever. that I had to cancel my bank accounts and redo them to get off auto [31:28] replenish would just >> they don't want me to do that [31:31] » and then they just change the amount they're going to auto replenish you for [31:34] a second. Can I get a motion to >> close [31:41] second? I [31:45] » this way this conversation isn't part of the [31:48] » DC and at any rate. So the encouragement is to look at your use the best [31:55] statements.