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Thank you. Commissioner A. Bear here. Commissioner Flex. Commissioner Wittries here, Commissioner C. Thank you.

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We would like to go ahead and please send rules.

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The City Planning Commission has established certain rules governing the procedures to be followed

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at all public hearings.

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Commissioner Jackson is here as well.

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We welcome him.

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Before speaking each person's help give their name a dress and say who he or she is representing

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for opponents, for proposal will speak for a period of 10 minutes.

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Each speaker will be allowed a maximum of two minutes.

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be allowed a maximum of two minutes.

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Opponents will be allowed a period of six minutes for a rebuttal each speaker shall be

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allowed a maximum of two minutes.

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Opponents will not be allowed to revitalize.

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No material written matter photographs, maps, charts will be accepted by the Commission

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or its staff at any time during this public hearing.

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This procedure shall be followed except at such time in the preceding officer's shell, and with the approval of commission members present.

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Extend such time. I'm going to go ahead and ask for a motion for our adoption of our meeting minutes from August 11.

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I'll make a motion to adopt a meeting minutes from July 20.

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Thank you, Commissioner Flek, is there a second?

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Second.

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Thank you, Commissioner Poshay, any discussion?

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I actually think I need to call everybody's name, yes.

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So, Commissioner C, how do you...

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Commissioner Witchery, yes.

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Commissioner Flick.

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Commissioner Abear.

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The meeting minutes have been up.

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Commissioner Flick.

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Commissioner Flick.

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Thank you.

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I need to add you to my list.

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Welcome.

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And we are going to move on to the first zoning

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document, 036-26.

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And if you're new to this room, or you just walked in,

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if you would like to speak, we need you to fill out cards

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and they'll be brought up to me so that we can make sure

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that everybody's heard.

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Zoning Doc is 036-26.

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All right.

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Zoning Doc is 036-26 was deferred

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from the CPC meeting on July 28th, but this presentation is largely the same, so we'll

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It's a request from city council motion for a text amendment to the CCO to define data

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centers and any related uses to consider whether these should be permitted or conditional

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in any zoning district or overlay, and to implement appropriate use and design standards

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for the uses not limited to density requirement, soundproofing, and safety measures, and

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other regulations necessary.

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is step quickly concluded that the data center uses an atypical one from what usually goes through CPC and that there is a large variation in intensity based on the size and scale of the use and the impacts from data centers are not just hyperlocal land use impacts like occupancy traffic building design and lighting but can be much broader impacting local supplies of energy or water and potentially creating major air quality noise or water quality issues for nearby residents.

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and the greatest impacts come from the really large facilities with power generation on site and or liquid cooling facilities on site, mostly hyperscale facilities.

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To inform the recommendations and reports staff reviewed zoning and land use regulations across the country,

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either from county, state or local governments, staff on their regulations vary.

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Some cities or states or counties of moratoriums on data centers, either entirely or beyond some kind of threshold like 10,000 square feet or 50,000 megawatts of power.

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But there are different approaches across the country as the demand for data centers has significantly increased in the past few years.

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So recommendations.

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Staff recommends setting a scale for data centers by establishing four main categories based on square footage and energy consumption.

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Staff looked at data center regulations from other places to inform the thresholds along with research on existing data center providers.

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So the categories are accessory, small, medium, large or hyperscale.

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Accessory data centers would serve a primary use at a site and would be no larger than

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2,000 square feet and would take up no more than 25% of the gross floor area of the primary

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use. Small data centers are up to 20,000 square feet with no greater than 5 megawatts.

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The media and data centers are up to 100,000 square feet and no greater than 20 megawatts of power. And large or hyper-scale is anything beyond the medium threshold, the 20 megawatts or 100,000 square foot and would be prohibited, citywide.

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Use for measures.

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Laura, can I interrupt you?

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I just want to make sure since people are listening and I want to make sure I understood. Large and hyper-scale are the same.

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Well, large and hyper-skiller defined under the same category, and those would be prohibited, yes.

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Right, so, okay, there are two different categories, or are they the same?

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So above mediums together.

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A way that we've written them is in one bucket together, like large or hyper-skiller.

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So anything above medium?

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What we've found is that large or typically hyper-skiller typically large.

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Okay, anything above medium falls into that one bug.

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Okay, and that's 20,000 square feet.

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100,000 square feet in 20 megawatt.

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20 megawatt.

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So small or medium data centers are conditioned

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would be conditionally allowed across districts in articles

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1516 and 17 in the commercial center areas and institutional campus district small would be

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conditionally allowed in C1, C2, C3, EC, MC, MS or LS in Article 16 centers for industry

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small and medium are conditionally allowed in L.I. light industrial H.I. have the industrial

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M.I. Maritime Industrial and B.I.P. Business Industrial Park.

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conditionally allowed in CBD-1, CBD-2, CBD-3, CBD-4, CBD-7,

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and medium would be conditionally permitted in CBD-7.

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And there's a map on the next slide.

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Yeah. So you can see the map on this slide

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in the red and blue areas that those are the commercial

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centers that would conditionally allow small data centers. The purple color includes

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LI, HI, MI, and BID that would support small or medium conditionally and the gray areas

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on the map should be areas within and around the CBD that would permit small as a conditionally

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use. It also includes CBD 7 which allows the medium sized data centers. So use standards.

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So, as we are looking at the data center, you simply realize there are a series of procedural

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considerations for the use that are atypical.

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A new data center would require review and consideration from energy, potentially sewage

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and water boards, certainly building permits, and so we decide to stipulate these initial

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considerations as part of the use standards.

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First, all data center applications for conditional use must be pre-reviewed by Kero, and

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to reduce sewage and water board and a statement of review by those agencies would be required

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to be provided to CPC before an application could be made.

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Second, each application would be required to include a general impact assessment to provide

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information on electrical love, water usage, expected noise levels, and a description of

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the mitigation efforts to be undertaken.

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The building and site design is largely similar to other industrially permitted use types,

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which are required to comply with the underlying zoning districts regulations for bulk,

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yard, design, and landscaping. Staff includes density and distance restrictions.

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So all data centers would be 500 feet roughly 3 blocks from all residential zone properties

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in industrial districts. L-I-H-I-M-I-B-I-P data centers would also be required to be 500 feet from one

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another, and in the CBD, only one data center is permitted per building to limit

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potential for an entire building to become a data center.

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So, there are examples of university campuses seeking to construct data centers, nationwide

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staff includes an allowance for universities, medical facilities, subject to the institutional

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master plan requirements, an article 15, to seek data centers as a use allowance within

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master planning process, and lastly, all on-site power generation would be prohibited, except

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for backup purposes.

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And so, staff recommends a approval of this language. We did receive

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a comment on Friday from Inauna, requesting a deferral of this request.

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Could we get some counsel on that? On the deferral, especially because it is a tax amendment.

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I don't think I've been in that situation, so I just wanted to be able to know what the processes.

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You all as the commission has the authority to act or defer within the time of audit, and Laura, can you remind everyone what the deadline for consideration?

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This is October 23rd, is our deadline.

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So Eastern New Orleans.

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Maybe we're going to see it.

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Advisory Commission.

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And along with, I think, if I don't mind if he could read,

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maybe that request.

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Yes, one second, one second,

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one second.

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Do you have it?

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I'm looking for it, do you?

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OK, that's it.

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You ready?

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Dear members of the City Planning Commission on behalf of the Eastern New Orleans Neighborhood Advisory Commission.

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You don't act.

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I'm requesting that the New Orleans City Planning Commission defer full consideration and formal action on zoning docket 3626 concerning data centers scheduled for hearing on August 25th for at least 60 days.

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Given the significance and sensitivity of the matter, we do not believe the community has been provided adequate time to review and discuss the CDC staff report.

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The additional time is needed to allow for full meaningful community input and dialogue before this matter proceeds.

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We also want to address the issue of notification.

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In accordance with the requirements of law applicable to ENONAC, which is Louisiana,

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or by statute's 33.9100.11. ENONAC is required to receive notice of interalea,

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zoning matters affecting its jurisdiction. ENONAC did not receive proper notification

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from the City Planning Commission regarding zoning docket 3626.

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For these reasons, Internet perspective requests

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that zoning docket 3626 be deferred for at least 60 days

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to provide sufficient time for proper notification.

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Community review of the staff report and additional community discussion

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for the matter with forward.

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We are also requesting that the New Orleans City Council

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extend the deadline for CPC action on this important issue

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concerning the defining and regulation of data centers to allow for the above reference greater

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community consideration, input, and engagement. This is certainly Kenya Smith and term president.

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Thank you. I would like to suggest that we move your presentations completed,

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correct, so that we can move on to listen to the people that have come here today and then we

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make our decisions.

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We have two cards in support, Ms. Susan Johnson,

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and then Ms. Sue

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Mobley. Please remember, you need to say your name and address. And you have two minutes.

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Susan Johnson, 28, 22 of the Page Street, Town of Carlton,

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Watches, Stewart, New Orleans, neighborhoods.

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I'm not paid to be here.

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I support the E request for deferral for extended community outreach.

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And put, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Moglie?

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Hi, all right.

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I support the staff recommendations and report, and I know how quickly a political concern

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a council can become a procedural request for planning and commission staff to rapid fire

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as several of the report, and I want to commend the planning department for an extensively

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researched and tightly written report in short order.

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Like I imagine most of the people in this room, I support the comprehensive ban on large and hyperscale data centers in a women's parish.

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I also appreciate the more nuanced set of recommendations that

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Taking to account current data center usage, and the most likely kinds and locations of potential future

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expansions along our biomedical corridor and adjacent educational campuses.

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My previous concerns about potential dodges using a lesser designations in close proximity,

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proximity, seem well addressed by the 500 foot regulations from the residential properties,

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500 foot from each other, regulations for four of the zoning types, and the CBD limit

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on one per building. I also really appreciate the proposal for re-approval of conditional use

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for expansion and use by square footage, increase in water or power, and hope that it might

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be applied as a standard for the current data centers in Orleans parish to prevent inadvertently

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advancing existing businesses over emergent ones. Overall, an excellent job by planning staff,

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which I hope the commission will vote to approve and recommend to council. Thank you.

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Ms. Mowgli, I would like to recognize you since you served for the City of New Orleans as a planning commissioner.

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Thank you for your service.

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I don't have any other cards in support.

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That's the case, then we're going to move for information only.

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I do have a card for an Ian or Ian Bailey, but I have a question.

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I have two people seated to you and they're in opposition, but you're in information only.

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So are you information only for an appropriate information this time? I can provide information for these two minutes and then I could do

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opposites for the other one. I have multiple comments.

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Okay, so we are going to do you have two minutes please say your name and a drive.

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Hello everyone my name is Ian Bailey. I am a student at the University of New Orleans. I'm located at 2,000

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short drive. And I want to use my time today to speak to you again about the importance of maintaining

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our water infrastructure and warmings. This is my third time. Having the privilege to speak to

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you all, I do want to acknowledge that I'm very grateful that you all are still continuing

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to be publicly facing about this topic. This topic is going to affect all of us in the city,

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whether we realize it or not. So I want to talk about how the state of the water of the

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I've did research between February 2025 and March 2026 that shows that the

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Susan Waterboard had to issue 10-boy water advisers within that 12-month span, showing

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that the Susan Waterboard can't even provide water for the people who already live

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here let alone these new industrial-sized uses. I also found in that research that

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over half of those documented water advisers occurred in the one in East where it

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mostly black and brown and Asian communities, people of lower income, who are affected the most

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by these decisions. So I wanted to bring that clearly to the discussion that we're talking about

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today. Even I was able to see brother today who does on the ground journalism, not even

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what the boy or what the boy or I'm sorry. Let me take my time. I saw brother today who does on the

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on journalism, showing spots where water is leaking from sewage pipes and where these things

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are just, they look like they're not kept. And these are issues that haven't even broken

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out into an emergency yet. The research that I did only showed documented failures from the

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boil from the Surgeon Water Board. And so I know that there's also other issues that exist

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haven't even been documented yet that we still have to go back and find more research on more

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data on before we commit to a definition for data sums. Thank you for your time.

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Mr. Bingley, if you'd like to speak, you still have four minutes. All right.

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Again, I really appreciate the opportunity to come up here and speak.

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I am a son of South Louisiana, even if my parents may tell you otherwise, I'm from here. This is my home.

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I was originally raised in La Pleasure, Louisiana, and I've been living in the one that's

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past five years. Being that I come from the place, I saw firsthand what an extraction economy

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does through a community. I got my start and research doing a project in elementary school about

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coastal erosion in Louisiana before and after Hurricane Katrina. And so from a very early age,

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I was already tailored to look and see how the impacts of how we build and how we develop infrastructure

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has the impact on the amount of lives we can save and the amount of emergencies we can prevent.

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When you look at coastal erosion, you can see there's a bunch of issues that contribute to it,

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but one of the major things that contribute to coastal erosion in South Louisiana is oil companies

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and how they literally dug canal.

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Through our buy-use and our wetlands to track oil and to exploit the land here.

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And I was raised in the heart of cancer alley, because these oil companies, once they find the oil,

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they need to refine the oil.

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And so, in cancer alley, between oil and bad rules, these areas

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has a high concentration of these industrial uses and the contaminants and the pollution from these

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companies, causes residents to suffer from cancer and respiratory illnesses at higher

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rates than the rest of the country. From this information, I want to pair the information

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with data from the COVID-19 pandemic where Saint John the Baptist's parents had the highest

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rates of mortality because of the condition of the residents, because they're at higher risk

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cancer and respiratory illnesses, more people died from COVID-19, and these illnesses didn't

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just happen because of their family. It happened because it's in the air. That these

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companies,

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yeah, no, that's what needs to be more. Oh, okay. How do we fix that?

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One of the side, Mike. Is there enough? Magic. Great. So what I was saying was that these

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companies made these conditions for the residents who live here.

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So I'm encouraging you all to think a little bit more deeply about the conditions of accepting

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a new industrial use in this area.

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I know that data centers are new industry that's emerging right now and I still would very

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much urge caution with how quickly we are holding this out again.

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I want to appreciate the fact that we've had these discussion for a few weeks, if not months,

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at this point.

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And so I just want to reiterate that they have a history of companies in this state and this region who have caused conditions that hurt people and that kill people.

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That's the point that I wanted to make initially.

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And in terms of actually looking at which I've put out today with the use standards and the definitions the child of release the child are about to vote on.

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I think that they need a little bit more work still.

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One of the things is that it's good about it

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is that it has a prohibition of large and hyper scale

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data centers. We do not need that at all.

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The second point though is about how the definitions

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are really based on square footage and electricity use

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when water is more scarce than electricity.

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Water is my main issue because we need water to exist

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every single one of us in this room needs water

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and if we're giving water to these computers

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that's water that's not going to be serving people, human beings. So if we're going to be

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doing a definition about anything relating to utilities it would be very important to actually

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include a definition for water usage in that definition so that we don't overextend ourselves

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at the end of the day water is the most vital thing that we're given from the earth and so we need

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to be taking care of it being a good steward of these resources and being a good steward of

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time here on our so I again I appreciate you for the time you give me to speak and I

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pray that you'll make the best decision for the city of no one as thank you.

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Thank you.

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Jesse George

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and then we'll move in to opposition, please stay your name and

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address. Thank you. Thank you Jesse George 4519 South Clayborne on behalf of the Alliance

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for Affordable Energy. I split before at last month's meeting about this really just wanted

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come out today. I've already thanked this commission staff for their work on this, but I'd

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like to thank the public really, the community who really was the impetus for this recommended

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prohibition on the citywide prohibition on high-press scale data centers. When the rumors earlier

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this year were swirling about a proposed data center in New Orleans East, the community sprang to

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its own defense and this is really a response to that pressure from the community. We see this as a

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in at the Alliance for Affordable Energy in terms

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of banning hyperscale data centers, citywide.

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We recognize the nuance and that we already

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have data centers existing in the city of a smaller scale.

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But really, the threat comes from these hyperscale facilities

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and that concern is addressed in this prohibition.

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So we would have no objection to a deferral on the vote.

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We already have a temporary ban in place for a year.

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So, more time for public education about what this new ordinance would entail, we would have no objection to that, but we do see this as a win for the community.

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Thank you.

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I have a question for you.

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Just about the mystery.

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Please comment about the water being scarcity.

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Excellent recommendation.

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That was my question.

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How you felt?

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I would be my response to that.

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All right. Thank you.

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All right. You're going to move into opposition.

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And I'll call a couple names so that you're aware that you're coming up.

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Can you Smith?

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Deborah Levy Perlman?

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And Assad, no sheet,

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and I'll apologize in advance if I don't, if the pronunciation is not accurate.

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Please correct me when you're up here.

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It's all right, I've been called worse.

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Good afternoon.

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Members of the Commission, I'm grateful for this.

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Opportunity, Kenya Smith, 73, Lake Willow, Drive in New Orleans, East.

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And I'm the interim president of the Eastern New Orleans neighborhood advisory commission.

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otherwise known affectionately as Inonac and organization designed after Katrina to protect the integrity

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of New Orleans these neighborhoods and our investment in this American experiment. We represent

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over 75,000 residents, over 70,000 acres or 65 percent of New Orleans's land mass over 40

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neighborhoods, and as my letter referenced, we are requesting at least a 60-day deferral of this

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all-goss bodies, consideration of this report, so that we can have more public engagement.

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We noticed in the report, and we do come in the staff for their time, that energy, the

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sewage, and water board, and certain other city departments were engaged in the production,

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but what was clearly missing was any input from the most affected communities.

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So in these two minutes that I have in the little time that I have left, I do point you back

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to always identify a statute section 3391 or 11, 2011, which does speak to certain procedural

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requirements that are unnecessary for certain governmental actions, such as this.

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One of the things that I've learned in the 30 seconds I have left, that when you are in

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the position of privilege and leadership whether it be elected or appointed there are three

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things that we need to do for people.

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The first is to engage.

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The second is to educate and the third is to empower, and that is why we respectfully request

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This deferral so that we have an adequate opportunity to get meaningful community input.

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So I thank you for your time and I see that my time is up.

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Thank you.

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It's going to be a bit lower.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Devora.

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I'm a New Orleans resident and I'm a volunteer with the take back the power campaign and an organizer with the party for socialism and liberation.

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So many of us are mobilizing today because nobody in the community wants a data center in their

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backyard, big, medium, small, and because we clearly see through the lack of democracy and accountability

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that we've been seeing. By allowing energy to decide whether they can provide

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great capacity for a proposed data center. The CPC is putting decision making about our

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resources into the hands of a corrupt for-profit corporation. Let's remember this is the same

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Energy, who in the past year has given over $1.5 million in campaign contributions in Louisiana.

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The same energy, who after Hurricane Ida, wreaked havoc across South Louisiana, charged customers $3.2 billion for repairs, while handing $1.5 billion in payouts to their shareholders and giving their then CEO a $4 million raise.

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So now what's happening is that they're making these deals with big tech to power data centers.

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So there's two options here.

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Either entity builds new gas-fired, polluting power plants to power data centers,

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and hike up our utility bills, or, and they allow more strain on the already failing grid,

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causing more blackouts for working class New Orleans.

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We're tired of billionaires putting this system in a chokehold where we regular working people have no control over our resources over the unreliable utilities that experience frequent outages and drain our bank accounts.

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The people should democratically decide how our grid is used, not energy.

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Electricity should be a basic human right, not a commodity for profit, and we the people should have control over how our utilities are used.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Hi, my name is Asada and I'm a member of the Party for Socialism and Liberation and a volunteer of the takeback of power campaign.

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I'm also a student at LSU New Orleans and I'm here today because I have serious concerns that this proposed rule disproportionately harm black and working class New Orleans.

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The proposal says that so-called medium data centers can be located in industrial zoning districts,

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but we know that zoning has never been a politically neutral act.

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From a combination of policy decisions like redlining and decades of de facto segregation,

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black communities have always gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to deciding

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where, quote unquote, undesirable infrastructure is built.

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Some of the biggest industrial zones in New Orleans are located right next to black communities.

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For example, the New Orleans East Industrial District is a massive site for industrial exploitation and is based in a community that is 84 percent black.

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When we look next to the desire area along industrial canal, or by the river in the lower nine, we can see a similar pattern.

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Black and low-income communities are the ones that have to shoulder the impacts of these invasive industrial projects.

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It's no secret at this point that people across the city and even across the country don't want a

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data center in their backyard because they know data centers compromise our quality of life from

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draining our water supply to creating absurd levels of noise pollution.

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When the same communities get targeted over and over again, it's not a coincidence.

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It's making them a sacrifice zone for big tech to break in record profits at our expense.

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So, we're here today to demand that this proposal not move forward, that black and

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working class New Orleans not be asked to bear yet another inconvenience and that you

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place the welfare of the residents of this city over profits for corporations like

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energy.

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Could you please say to your address for the record before I move on?

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Thank you.

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Yes, it's 21-01, Leon's, he's Simon Drough.

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Thank you.

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Tiffany French, blue and Bernadette Fox.

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Hello, Tiffany French, 2326 North Robertson Street.

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I do support banning hyperscal data centers, but I believe we should be banning

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data centers of all size in the city of New Orleans because of the

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detrimental effects already mentioned such as energy and water

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depletion, air pollution, noise pollution, and light pollution.

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Even if tech companies pay to improve our infrastructure and

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it's not to cause problems. They have proved themselves untrustworthy in the past.

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And all of this is just to create a handful of jobs and support plagiarism, misinformation,

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and racist surveillance. There are no benefits to the citizens of New Orleans. Thank you.

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Hello, my name is Blue, 7015 Kentucky Street. I'm not going to be saying anything new here

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that hasn't already been said. But I am a white transplant here in New Orleans and I'm here to

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reach out to all of the board members who are also white and say that this will be the detrimental

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genocide to the community that is in New Orleans and everything is owed to the Black and

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Brown Indigenous community of New Orleans and there is nothing more to be said that we have

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seen evidence in how this is impacted other communities throughout the United States, that

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these data centers are not being built in predominantly white communities

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point blank. It's not happening. And so everything in this city, the reason why people come here

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is owed to black and indigenous community members who create it. It's the only reason people

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come here is because of that. And I urge you all to listen to people who have spoken before me

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And to think deeply about the sustainability and keeping the city alive, especially because I know that y'all have seen the reports of the point of number turn as sea levels rise.

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How do we want to prolong and keep alive this place that you say that you love and protect, that we say we love and protect what will we do?

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So thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Good afternoon everybody. My name is Bernadette Fox. I live at 623 of our street. I am a lawyer. I went to law school here.

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I'm currently on medical leave because I had to get cancer removed from my body in April. I'm the court appointed lawyer.

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I'm a good one. And I'm probably going to have to quit that job because we don't prioritize children and mothers. I'm here as a mother today of a black child in a city that doesn't prioritize his wellness. The only property I own is the former grave of a student. And when I was making that purchase in 2021, after he was killed in the seventh word, that is rapidly being gentrified, I had to decide which cemetery was safe because the graves were floating. Right now we're in a drought.

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Okay, I come from Santa Cruz, California, paradise on Earth.

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Bigger wealth disparity than here, a greater homeless population than here,

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we would never have a data center, because they protect the environment.

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Not like Watsonville, where Driscoll, strawberries come from,

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you see those at the grocery store.

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Highest rates of childhood cancer are coming out of those communities.

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Black and brown Hispanic communities in California.

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So, I'm telling you that the choices that you're making around the data center

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will affect my son's ability to thrive in this city,

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to thrive in this place, to potentially

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have generational wealth one day, to have a future,

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to maybe have his own children one day.

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You're making those decisions.

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And we will not forget, I will not forget.

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We are different.

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We are writing the history books.

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We will archive the history, not the people

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that thinks that they're in power.

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The land is destabilizing because of decisions

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that people in power have made for time immemorial here.

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So, I'm standing before you, and I'm letting you know that people like me who have been in places that have tried to bully us into a cult of silence, it's not happening.

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My employer probably doesn't know I'm here today.

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I don't care anymore.

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I'm speaking truth to power because it needs to happen.

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Time is up.

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My time is running out.

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Our time is running out, and we're not going to back down.

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I'm Ed Jigar, Kendall Berry, I think here in Spencer.

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Hey, my name is Ahmed, 49.99, Burgundi Street.

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I'm an organizer with the Party for Socialism and Immigration,

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and a volunteer with the take back the power campaign.

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I'm here today to urge the Commission to recommend a permanent citywide ban

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on new principal use status centers.

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00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,520
Your staff report highlights the difference between Hyperion

446
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,200
and what it would call a medium data center.

447
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,220
and, yeah, short, 20 megawatts, not anywhere near Hyperian scale.

448
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:44,240
But it would still use as much electricity as 12,000 homes per year in Occupy and entire

449
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:44,980
city block.

450
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:51,140
So what exactly is medium about that would anyone here consider if they got an electric bill

451
00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:59,620
for 12,000 divided by the average electric bill $2.16 million, I can't afford that.

452
00:37:59,620 --> 00:38:00,960
I don't know if any of you can.

453
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:08,960
The word medium here really just means larger than small and smaller than large, it has nothing to do with any of the impacts that these facilities will have.

454
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,420
Your report acknowledges that data centers primarily affect the cost and availability of electricity and water.

455
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,780
It correctly identifies a citywide issue and does not bother to offer any citywide solutions.

456
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:26,240
How does a sound barrier protect us from rate hikes, for example?

457
00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:46,980
The proposals a step back written policy, we already currently, under the IZD, are banning new principal use data centers, and instead of making this permanent, we're considering exceptions for small facilities that take as much power as every household in the St.rock neighborhood combined each not to mention medium facilities.

458
00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:54,000
You're also not doing anything like capping how many data centers can be improved in total or the resource during collectively.

459
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,620
You're missing before us for the trees with these definitions.

460
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,700
These are separate categories on paper, but they're all drawing from the same electrical

461
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:06,580
grid, water system, city, infrastructure that's our electricity, our water, our city, and

462
00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:07,720
our infrastructure.

463
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:14,220
You've been hearing this for months now, and all the data centers do not permit small facilities

464
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:18,440
or conditional approval for medium, keep the definition in the current IZD, maintain narrow

465
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,480
exception for accessory server rooms, recommend that to city council, prevent all data

466
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,800
center use in all zoning districts. Thank you.

467
00:39:35,580 --> 00:39:39,580
Oh, my name is Kendall Barry. I live at 2, 2, 3, 0, be

468
00:39:39,580 --> 00:39:42,660
Enville Street and I'm a volunteer with the take back the power

469
00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:47,860
campaign. Here to say today that we don't want any new data centers

470
00:39:47,860 --> 00:39:53,100
in New Orleans, even if you call them small or medium sized. All data

471
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:58,460
centers put significant strain on our already failing power grid, use a

472
00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,940
fresh water resources

473
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:13,540
All over the country, people are fighting back against data centers that are being forced on people, fighting for their right to assay and how their resources are used.

474
00:40:14,180 --> 00:40:25,500
I talk to this to people in this city all the time, and I can think of a hundred other things that New Orleans want for their beloved city before they want any new warehouses for big tech.

475
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:32,020
New Orleans want a functional pipe system with water that isn't filled with lead or PFAS.

476
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:36,960
We want reliable power that won't leave us stranded in this brutal heat.

477
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,200
We want to feel like our city is prepared for the next Katrina that comes to New Orleans.

478
00:40:43,060 --> 00:40:51,320
How is paving the way for big tech business to do what it wants with New Orleans beneficial for the average working person here?

479
00:40:51,320 --> 00:41:10,280
I'm so tired of hearing about the economic boost that Louisiana will get by selling off more and more of our precious land to these mega corporations who want nothing more than to extract as much as they can from the people of Louisiana as if they haven't taken enough.

480
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:21,280
We need to prioritize fixing the existing problems in this city, preparing for the actuality of another big storm and taking care of our struggling people.

481
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:28,200
What is best for profit-obsessed corporation is not what is best for working class New Orleans.

482
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:38,480
I ask you so that you can reflect and because the people deserve to know whose interests are you protecting the people or the ultra-wealthy.

483
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,700
Thank you,

484
00:41:52,950 --> 00:42:00,430
Karen Spencer 1339 St. Rock Avenue, my name is Karen and I'm an organizer with the take back the power campaign.

485
00:42:01,130 --> 00:42:07,610
Here in New Orleans, our grid is already stretched to its limit. Much of the infrastructure we depend on was built more than 70 years ago.

486
00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:13,810
We've seen time and time again that it cannot even withstand relatively minor storms without widespread outages.

487
00:42:13,810 --> 00:42:18,550
And we know what happens when energy system fails, working people of this city die.

488
00:42:19,310 --> 00:42:24,010
After Hurricane Katrina, energy took 42 days to complete restoration, leaving roughly

489
00:42:24,010 --> 00:42:26,310
1.1 million customers in the dark.

490
00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:33,430
In 2021 Hurricane Ida left nearly 950,000 customers without power, after an energy tower fell

491
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:34,670
into the Mississippi River.

492
00:42:35,410 --> 00:42:38,330
Energy needed 15 days to restore power to most of the city.

493
00:42:38,330 --> 00:42:43,230
During that time, at least nine people died from excessive heat in their own homes.

494
00:42:44,010 --> 00:42:45,350
Their deaths were preventable.

495
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:49,570
They died because our grid failed them, because energy failed them.

496
00:42:49,870 --> 00:42:54,350
Our grid cannot handle strain that climate disasters already placed on it, let alone the

497
00:42:54,350 --> 00:42:55,630
demands of data centers.

498
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:57,390
And those demands are staggering.

499
00:42:58,510 --> 00:43:00,130
We only have to look at Richland Parish.

500
00:43:00,390 --> 00:43:04,810
Their energy worked in secret to secure the Medahipirian AI data center.

501
00:43:04,810 --> 00:43:09,430
The project is expected to consume roughly half of Louisiana's electrical capacity.

502
00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:14,110
That's approximately seven times the energy consumed by the entire city of New Orleans.

503
00:43:15,790 --> 00:43:18,210
An energy has no real solution for our failing grid.

504
00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:24,430
They have stood in this very room and dodged accountability while proposing an enormous new fossil fuel energy system.

505
00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:28,170
We cannot fix a failing grid with more band-aid solutions.

506
00:43:28,990 --> 00:43:36,270
And if energy gets permission to bring any size data centers into New Orleans, working-class people will pay the price when the system fails.

507
00:43:37,110 --> 00:43:46,510
If this commission is serious about preparing New Orleans for the next hurricane, then you must be on all projects that put additional strain on our failing electrical grid, no matter the size.

508
00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:54,930
Allowing any size data centers in New Orleans would mean signing a death warrant for the people who will be left without power when the next disaster hits. Thank you.

509
00:43:54,930 --> 00:43:55,870
Thank you.

510
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,060
It's either Taylor, Terry, Jirenelli,

511
00:44:11,180 --> 00:44:14,440
and Greg Reese, Snapford.

512
00:44:17,820 --> 00:44:17,840
Hello.

513
00:44:18,020 --> 00:44:19,000
I was in Louis.

514
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,520
I hope please go ahead and see your name and address.

515
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:30,940
Tage Jirenella, one-one-one-seven, less-ups, and thank you for your time today.

516
00:44:30,940 --> 00:44:59,780
I want to say two real quick that you guys don't have enough information, you were given a five-slide presentation when the full report is actually 57 pages and reading and looking at this, the one thing that I did not see in the actual report is that almost a majority of the east is all highlighted and everybody showed up in January.

517
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,560
And February to shut down that request for a data center in the east for a reason. And now we have done good research to go and point back to the east as a location.

518
00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:29,260
Additionally, this is going to be a quick search for profit and money in this city that I know will cause you beyond tenfold in the future with our already failing infrastructure.

519
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,680
This is going to continue to be massive detriment.

520
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,100
The other thing I want to see, and I recommend is I would like to see in here,

521
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,880
making it costly, costs as consequences to the corporations, companies,

522
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:50,360
and individuals who want to do this if we're going to be serious about a regulation,

523
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,580
meaning anything.

524
00:45:52,740 --> 00:45:54,400
I'm not footing that bill.

525
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:00,840
Additionally, something that wasn't in any of the report is what is called power usage effectiveness,

526
00:46:01,220 --> 00:46:05,040
which is the actual metric that determines the impact.

527
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:11,680
Megawatts is just the instantaneous power draw from my T equipment,

528
00:46:13,460 --> 00:46:16,800
and had nothing about terawatts per year, additionally.

529
00:46:17,780 --> 00:46:24,580
PUE is the ratio of total facility power and often smaller facilities and older facilities

530
00:46:24,580 --> 00:46:26,120
have the worst.

531
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Ranging up to 2.5, which has,

532
00:46:37,540 --> 00:46:39,080
thank you, thank you.

533
00:46:46,700 --> 00:46:53,600
Gregory Swaffer, 935, grab your street, sweet 700, Mesothees, Louisiana Organizer,

534
00:46:53,740 --> 00:46:59,560
healthy golf, cold fond of culture, cleanliness, proud New Orleans, amen, I just think it's

535
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:05,460
happen to face to New Orleans, particularly residents of New Orleans, these, I've spent my fair share

536
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:08,400
of time growing up in New Orleans, these, not my entire childhood.

537
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,420
But in recent years, there's been a number of community-based organizations, public officials

538
00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:19,820
and concerned residents, men that have been putting in real work to both the sustainability

539
00:47:19,820 --> 00:47:28,060
in our community out there, most specifically, create opportunities for the children in New Orleans,

540
00:47:28,060 --> 00:47:34,000
these two access the land, two access the water, it's a shame that we can't access our water

541
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,680
ways, like again, it can now at a citrus canal because it's polluted by water, water

542
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,160
ice and something, you may be wondering, what does this have to do with data centers?

543
00:47:41,460 --> 00:47:44,100
As everything to do with data centers, we're ignoring the environment.

544
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:49,740
As everyone else has said, I believe that the environmental impacts are not being fully considered.

545
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:55,820
It can't be fully considered and since this last permanent application was submitted, I'm

546
00:47:55,820 --> 00:48:01,480
to the against it. The land footprint impact alone would be devastating. It wouldn't be the

547
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,900
highest and the best use of the remaining of our already eroding land in the city. We have

548
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:11,420
a tremendous opportunity to boast our recreational water economy. Let's do that. Let's protect our

549
00:48:11,420 --> 00:48:16,840
waterways. Right up the road in the sentient pairs is some of the highest cancer rates in the country,

550
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:23,200
only 40 minutes from now y'all. Cancer, heart disease, the number one killer of Americans, asthma,

551
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,640
You know, it's a polluted by industries, we got venture global down the road and

552
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,400
black limits, we got CF industries up in ascension, we got carbon capture, LNG,

553
00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:35,480
dredging and filling our Mississippi River, wetland destruction.

554
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:41,580
You really want to take what we have here in New Orleans, the last remaining special

555
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:47,620
part of our state and destroy it, and then drive our schools and fire departments of

556
00:48:47,620 --> 00:48:49,680
tax revenue, which makes no sense.

557
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,120
Thank you.

558
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Thank you.

559
00:49:00,590 --> 00:49:01,790
Mr. Ms. Lewis.

560
00:49:10,660 --> 00:49:11,780
Fran Bias.

561
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,440
Trinity Barnes.

562
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,100
And Claudia.

563
00:49:17,740 --> 00:49:18,300
Celestine.

564
00:49:23,370 --> 00:49:24,090
Good afternoon.

565
00:49:24,770 --> 00:49:26,150
My name is Fran Bias.

566
00:49:26,250 --> 00:49:30,790
I was at 113, 11 Park for Court, South, and New Orleansies.

567
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:33,910
I don't know a lot about these data centers.

568
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:37,450
In fact, I guess I learned quite a bit from these young people.

569
00:49:37,450 --> 00:49:45,270
just sitting there listening to them, but what I have found out, number one is that these

570
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:54,470
data sensors are contracting for 15 to 25 years. So what happens after the 25 years? I understand

571
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:59,490
in that they have to build a more power plant tub.

572
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:11,900
Energize these data census. And so, when they pick up and leave in 15 to 25 years, who's going to carry the price tag of those energy centers?

573
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:25,980
And I'm concerned about them building them near residential areas, you know, with people trying to sleep at night and they're draining the world in the power from those homes.

574
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:33,160
So, I don't have a lot of love for a data center.

575
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,680
I don't really want them, not near where I have to live anyway.

576
00:50:37,420 --> 00:50:38,260
Thank you for listening.

577
00:50:38,540 --> 00:50:39,060
Thank you.

578
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,480
Good afternoon.

579
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,060
My name is Trinity Barnes.

580
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:55,920
I graduated from Rhodes College with a degree in Environmental Studies in Urban Studies.

581
00:50:56,260 --> 00:50:58,260
So, I study climate change in cities.

582
00:50:58,820 --> 00:51:01,560
I study how environmental impacts affect human beings.

583
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:10,360
And I study how governments tend to have a lot of power over long, long-term impacts over what we do here in our city.

584
00:51:11,180 --> 00:51:18,600
More importantly than my past studies, I am here as a Black New Orleansian from the Seven War.

585
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:27,560
And I'm here to say that we're tired, we're tired of being exploited, we're tired of being looked over and we're tired of

586
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:34,660
fitting the price that million trillionaires get to make more money off of that I'm completely

587
00:51:34,660 --> 00:51:40,340
against data centers in New Orleans big small it doesn't matter the size because we already

588
00:51:40,340 --> 00:51:45,680
deal with a lot of pollution here in this city we're fighting for our lives and cancer

589
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:54,980
cancer alley we're fighting for our lives with all kinds of pollution here and I wanted to

590
00:51:54,980 --> 00:51:59,340
talk about noise pollution specifically and how that will really affect a lot of our residents

591
00:51:59,340 --> 00:52:06,920
including our children. There isn't much data coming out of these data centers about the

592
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,900
negative health impacts that they are causing children and being at these will be allowed to be

593
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:17,100
inside our residential neighborhoods very close to schools and homes. I just want to keep in

594
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:23,280
mind about the young people coming up and how they are our future and how they are negatively

595
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,200
impact about these consequences. Please help us take care of New Orleans, where the backbone of

596
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,760
the South, where the backbone of this country. Half of this would not be here if it weren't for

597
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,100
the Louisiana person. If it weren't for the poor of New Orleans, so please, please, please,

598
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:41,440
keep us in your hearts, and please keep us in your minds as you make this very important decision.

599
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:47,660
That will impact us forever. Thank you. Ms. Barnes. Ms. Barnes.

600
00:52:49,940 --> 00:52:52,480
We just need to be consistent. Thank you.

601
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,700
Thank you.

602
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,440
Good afternoon.

603
00:53:02,580 --> 00:53:12,260
Claudia Salastan, 5706 Louis Prima Drive West, New Orleans East, member of Inno-Nac cap, a president

604
00:53:12,260 --> 00:53:21,400
of Robert subdivision, and I came here today to speak for a deferment, and if there

605
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:27,580
is no vote for deferment, I suggest that you all vote this down so that reconsideration

606
00:53:27,580 --> 00:53:34,980
can be done for all of those things that people have brought for today that need to be considered

607
00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:44,380
in this document that is to be presented. As for as the community in New Orleans East for myself,

608
00:53:44,980 --> 00:53:53,580
I know I have not had an opportunity in order to digest any part of the recommendations. So when we

609
00:53:53,580 --> 00:53:57,620
look at what the community input should be.

610
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,880
I'm thinking we do need voices to come out of the community.

611
00:54:02,140 --> 00:54:07,620
I do appreciate all of the data, all of the technical information

612
00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:12,840
that has been provided, but we also need to know what impact to the

613
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:18,460
community will be brought forth from a rash, rush decision.

614
00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:24,980
So I asked for a delay, so you know before the members of the community did come together

615
00:54:24,980 --> 00:54:30,920
When there was a proposed data center in one of the neighborhoods of New Orleans East

616
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:40,700
It was totally rejected. So I'm asking please defer a vote down. Thank you. Thank you

617
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:52,360
Rafial O'Neal in Ronald Marshall those are the last cards that I have to speak if anyone

618
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:59,960
House has filled out one. Please make sure that I get a card seat.

619
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:07,880
Yes, hi, my name is Rafael O'Neill, 60-319, Rocheblav. I apologize, I'm not going to be as eloquent because

620
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,400
I just heard about this as I was leaving for work. I would be late picking up my daughter from school,

621
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:19,580
but it's worth it. I actually have a stop data center's Facebook page. I can't even remember the name of it on Facebook.

622
00:55:20,140 --> 00:55:26,340
I've spoken with people in Richland, Virginia, used to be Richland, the richest soil in Louisiana in Monroe.

623
00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:30,700
And there is nobody who lives by data center who loves it.

624
00:55:30,740 --> 00:55:35,900
It destroys lives, it destroys health, it destroys sanity, it is a curse on communities.

625
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,320
It absolutely destroys the lives of the people who live by it.

626
00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:40,520
I don't care what size.

627
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,880
There are multiple issues, most people brought them up.

628
00:55:44,020 --> 00:55:46,420
They are ultra-low frequency weapons.

629
00:55:46,980 --> 00:55:51,640
You can put a sound barrier, but the frequency, the vibration that goes through, has health

630
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:51,960
effects.

631
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,940
when little girl kept getting seizures until her parents were

632
00:55:55,940 --> 00:55:58,620
fortunately able to go leave that I don't know if they sold their

633
00:55:58,620 --> 00:56:02,840
house or not unless you're selling to the data center a lot of

634
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,600
people renting who are poor cannot are not so fortunate as to be able to

635
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,420
get out of the neighborhoods or that they're in or people that can't

636
00:56:11,420 --> 00:56:14,880
sell it if the the data centers will bite nobody wants to buy a house in a

637
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,920
data center neighborhood so there's there's just a lot of health issues that

638
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,820
We know about the quality of life as a nightmare.

639
00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:26,880
I had a friend who was a medic who worked in one of these data centers.

640
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,260
I'll try not to give to many identifiers.

641
00:56:29,740 --> 00:56:37,240
He said he was told that the number one cause of death to look out for as a medic was for the

642
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:42,380
people building the construction site was suicide actually.

643
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:53,080
And you need to know why he actually resigned after that, he quit, but there's these things, whether they're closed loop or open loop.

644
00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:56,720
First of all, if they're open loop, they're going to release a lot of water vapor into the air.

645
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:02,360
Water vapor is the number one cause of client one number one driver of climate according to NASA.

646
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:08,500
Even small changes in the location or abundance of clouds can change the climate more than the anticipated changes brought about.

647
00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:13,570
So, can we turn it back on so at least you can finish your fight?

648
00:57:13,570 --> 00:57:14,210
Thank you, please.

649
00:57:14,790 --> 00:57:16,630
And so, these create heat islands.

650
00:57:16,810 --> 00:57:21,790
And if we're so worried about a rise in one degree, and why are we putting up all these things

651
00:57:21,790 --> 00:57:26,190
that are the antithesis of the sustainability narrative that we've been rolling out here all these years.

652
00:57:26,970 --> 00:57:28,330
So, there's a lot of reasons.

653
00:57:28,450 --> 00:57:31,350
There's actually not one good reason to have a data center.

654
00:57:31,350 --> 00:57:36,690
China is using those to man the police, the robots and the robot dogs.

655
00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:38,010
We know what's coming.

656
00:57:38,010 --> 00:57:39,550
This is the monitor us.

657
00:57:39,730 --> 00:57:42,170
It's got nothing to do with the managering of this data.

658
00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:43,610
Please reconsider.

659
00:57:43,870 --> 00:57:44,490
Thank you so much.

660
00:57:50,620 --> 00:57:50,740
Yes.

661
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:51,460
Mr. Marshall?

662
00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:52,220
Good evening.

663
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:53,440
My name is Ronald Marshall.

664
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,700
Seeing your policy strategy of voice of experience,

665
00:57:56,180 --> 00:57:58,160
I'm also a lifelong resident here in New Orleans.

666
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,500
I was born in charge of the hospital,

667
00:57:59,660 --> 00:58:01,260
so it's my entire line of family.

668
00:58:02,260 --> 00:58:03,740
Everybody on this panel knows the home

669
00:58:03,740 --> 00:58:05,760
that those data still work due to our communities.

670
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,220
So I have to ask, if you know the home of it,

671
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,640
actually considering putting data cells in our community,

672
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:17,220
Then some of you must be already bought like Senator J. Marvel's bought by the data coming to put that data

673
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:22,740
Accident and not the reason I mean bought your values have been compromised because it should be a resounding

674
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:27,300
Know to data centers and you want these that's predominantly black

675
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:33,180
How many of you would put a data sitting your own back your and wish your family being home by that

676
00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:34,480
Dances I said question

677
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,380
Would you do it?

678
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:38,200
Do I mean you're living to all this ease?

679
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,960
How many living to all these because they're predominantly black

680
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,280
My mother brought her 40 years, she was like on top water.

681
00:58:44,740 --> 00:58:46,100
She was like on top water.

682
00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:47,900
She will have them on the bar by water.

683
00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:51,040
And after Katrina, the justification pushed her

684
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,200
rest of the black people that lived in the middle city,

685
00:58:53,620 --> 00:58:57,980
and he's only black people will be impacted by that guy to send them.

686
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,440
So I asked the question,

687
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,320
if you know the home of the data center,

688
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,680
why are we even considering it?

689
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,980
Don't be like sending the J-Morning,

690
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,460
let them buy you and compromise your values.

691
00:59:07,980 --> 00:59:09,760
Please, people be home,

692
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,680
family would be destroyed, particularly bad for it.

693
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,900
It's an attack on bad communists around its country.

694
00:59:16,180 --> 00:59:18,460
None of them being there would ever consider putting

695
00:59:18,460 --> 00:59:23,540
a data center in their own neighborhood, never, ever.

696
00:59:34,130 --> 00:59:35,570
I don't have anybody else.

697
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:38,730
I have no more cards, so I don't think there's anyone else

698
00:59:38,730 --> 00:59:40,130
here to speak on this matter.

699
00:59:40,850 --> 00:59:44,890
If you all have any questions for any of the speakers

700
00:59:44,890 --> 00:59:47,730
or for staff, please do.

701
00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:49,810
We don't have a room.

702
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,940
No, because there's no room at all because there's a text amendment.

703
00:59:57,620 --> 00:59:58,680
Commissioner A there please.

704
00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:59,900
Thank you first of all.

705
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:14,800
I want to thank everyone that came out today to speak, and I was just taking a couple of notes, but as Mr Smith mentioned earlier, no community input was in a report and correct me from wrong.

706
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,000
But it appears as though the two major companies that would be

707
01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:21,540
That would be

708
01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:24,360
Well, how should I say they will affect us as

709
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:27,400
Rape players are anti-G and sewage of water board

710
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:33,460
The main the one guide and mentioned a 10 bar of water issues in New Orleans, E

711
01:00:33,460 --> 01:00:35,660
I mean why would we even

712
01:00:35,660 --> 01:00:41,760
Oh, why would the data centers be proposed in the East if that's a problem and looking at this map?

713
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:48,920
It's like many of them are proposed for new only disease, and some areas of the city don't

714
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,500
have any red shading.

715
01:00:52,180 --> 01:00:57,580
We already have a problem with antigen, you know, in the city, in the east, if we have experienced

716
01:00:57,580 --> 01:01:00,000
after hurricanes and when you have you.

717
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:03,640
So that would definitely be a problem with these data centers.

718
01:01:04,340 --> 01:01:11,120
Also in a large areas of the shaded area, there are nearer schools and hospitals, and

719
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:18,880
in your citizen housing, so I can see that potentially being an issue, but actually I would

720
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:25,360
like to make a motion now, if anybody else wants to meet the comment, go ahead.

721
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:33,660
I'd just like to make a comment that a big issue for me is that there will be no enforcement

722
01:01:34,420 --> 01:01:40,340
and you can come up with a guideline that may or may not be followed and it just doesn't work

723
01:01:40,340 --> 01:01:51,600
In this scenario, we have a slew of existing buildings that you want to shove a data center into and how do you make that work and meet all of these requirements of a specific guideline.

724
01:01:55,020 --> 01:02:04,920
Not for any for a data center of any size in New Orleans, but that's really what comes down for me is just you know the energy impact.

725
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:17,920
The impact to our infrastructure and the reality that it, you know, enforcement just might be something that's not really possible without having good data, and there's just not that data right now.

726
01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:21,890
Commissioner Jackson.

727
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:28,550
I personally, for one, I want to put in a record, I do reside in New Orleans East.

728
01:02:29,570 --> 01:02:31,190
Okay, so I heard you loud and clear.

729
01:02:33,630 --> 01:02:41,010
So, number two, I took some notes as well and just as a young person that's looking forward

730
01:02:41,010 --> 01:02:43,290
to raising the family in the Orleans.

731
01:02:44,850 --> 01:02:51,390
From a business standpoint, they're trying to argue that it's money-tech and growth.

732
01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:57,770
But then when you look at from a community standpoint, the kinds are energy use for the use

733
01:02:57,770 --> 01:03:05,150
of our mental pressure and we have to look at what's going to be the quality of life for

734
01:03:05,150 --> 01:03:13,650
the nation's generations to come. So sometimes we have to understand, are we looking at today

735
01:03:13,650 --> 01:03:21,130
or we look at the future tomorrow? So I personally supported being deferred but I do not support

736
01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:27,630
that as soon as especially if it's not going to be accountability, it's not going to be education

737
01:03:27,630 --> 01:03:31,910
and we need to understand what is the end goal,

738
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:36,290
what is the objective for being a data center in the city of New Orleans?

739
01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:37,490
Thank you.

740
01:03:40,460 --> 01:03:41,020
Thank you.

741
01:03:41,540 --> 01:03:43,160
Any other comments?

742
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,480
We also, Commissioner Evier,

743
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,800
does have a motion that I'd like to make a motion.

744
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,200
I have a comment if I want to.

745
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:51,440
OK.

746
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,800
Thank you.

747
01:03:53,540 --> 01:03:54,580
Good afternoon, everyone.

748
01:03:55,020 --> 01:03:58,280
I want to distinguish between opposing regulation

749
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:06,320
and supporting a deferral here today, I absolutely think that the city needs a permanent regulatory framework for data centers.

750
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:15,740
The question before me today though is whether that framework in front of us is sufficiently developed to become that permanent framework.

751
01:04:16,780 --> 01:04:25,480
The CPC staff itself recognizes that data centers are unusual because many of their most significant impacts aren't traditional land use impacts.

752
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:33,540
That involves electricity, water capacity, utility costs, noise, and potentially regional infrastructure consequences.

753
01:04:34,860 --> 01:04:43,560
Those are significant issues, and I want to be confident that the standards we recommend actually address them in a clear and enforceable way.

754
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:47,760
For example, the proposal requires pre-review by Kuro,

755
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,360
Entry G, and the sewage and water in board, and water board,

756
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,740
but it leaves the procedure for those reviews to be created by those entities.

757
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,900
Before we establish a news category in the zoning ordinance.

758
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,280
I think it's reasonable to understand more clearly what the review will entail, what standards will

759
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:13,320
govern it, and what happens if utility capacity or community impacts are unacceptable. A deferral

760
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:18,840
gives us an opportunity to resolve these remaining questions without creating an immediate regulatory

761
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:26,440
vacuum. My concern is that once we create permanent permissions in the CCO, even conditional

762
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:32,240
permissions, as what is being suggested here today, we've established an affirmative pathway

763
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:37,340
for applications, and I want to make sure that the standards governing that pathway

764
01:05:37,340 --> 01:05:44,180
is strong specific and administratively workable as they need to be before we recommend adoption.

765
01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:50,860
Now, I recognize that this matter has already received substantial study, and I don't take another

766
01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:56,640
deferral lightly, truly, but the amount of time we have spent is not by itself the measure

767
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:02,100
of whether the ordinance is ready. I'm asking us to defer because once we create a legal

768
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:07,580
pathway for these issues, I want the guardrails around that pathway to be fully defined.

769
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,940
The relevant question is whether the outstanding issues are material. And given the scale

770
01:06:13,940 --> 01:06:19,140
of the potential utility and community impacts, I believe they are. Thank you.

771
01:06:26,790 --> 01:06:32,190
And the other comments, if not, okay, Commissioner A bear.

772
01:06:32,810 --> 01:06:38,730
I would like to make a motion to defer this item for 60 days.

773
01:06:39,070 --> 01:06:46,890
And I will ask that community input and will be involved with the final report.

774
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:49,450
What's the deadline again?

775
01:06:49,770 --> 01:06:51,190
It's 10 to be free.

776
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:53,390
Leave it's 59 days away.

777
01:06:53,590 --> 01:06:54,630
Yeah, I'm not sure we got 60.

778
01:06:54,630 --> 01:07:00,950
Is there a second as second if we don't have 60 days that's going to 50 nine days

779
01:07:02,030 --> 01:07:10,370
So we've a first in a second. Yes, and I remember number one as to the time frame

780
01:07:11,310 --> 01:07:13,510
I will reach out to

781
01:07:14,370 --> 01:07:19,750
Else rubber Hughes and I'm going to roll who initiated the motion to see if they will

782
01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:23,350
Accept slight extension that time so that we can

783
01:07:24,850 --> 01:07:27,210
So I have no problem doing that.

784
01:07:28,450 --> 01:07:31,630
The second, is there any, in addition to,

785
01:07:34,170 --> 01:07:35,630
Councilman, or Commissioner Phoshes,

786
01:07:37,110 --> 01:07:40,730
suggestions, as far as what we can do in the time period,

787
01:07:40,970 --> 01:07:42,730
I have to mean that if you've got other things

788
01:07:42,730 --> 01:07:45,550
for us to consider and bring back more information,

789
01:07:46,050 --> 01:07:47,250
we can certainly be able to do that.

790
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:48,630
Yeah, I do have that.

791
01:07:48,890 --> 01:07:49,810
Do we have a motion on that?

792
01:07:49,810 --> 01:07:51,150
We have a, yeah, first in a second.

793
01:07:51,550 --> 01:07:52,050
Please, please.

794
01:07:53,450 --> 01:07:59,830
I'd like to ask staff, so first of all, we gave staff a compliment last time and I want to give them a compliment again.

795
01:07:59,950 --> 01:08:09,130
It was a really thorough report, but we've also now heard a bunch of other ideas and facts.

796
01:08:09,310 --> 01:08:15,830
So I'd like to ask in the space of the deferral, the things that struck me that I'd like to ask staff to address

797
01:08:15,830 --> 01:08:26,770
are one. Before I do, I think setting 20 megawatts as the floor beyond which it's large

798
01:08:26,770 --> 01:08:33,370
and the hyperscale is very good because it's low. I've looked at data to see the megawatts

799
01:08:33,370 --> 01:08:41,350
used by the centers that really put fear in everybody and they're above 20, so I think

800
01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:47,710
And he's a good floor, but I'd like to ask staff to consider lowering the floor for medium

801
01:08:47,710 --> 01:08:57,750
so that it's harder to get to medium, which would mean that, or lowering the floor so

802
01:08:57,750 --> 01:09:03,370
that more things are medium and fewer things are small so that it's harder to put up

803
01:09:03,370 --> 01:09:08,330
a data center, it's harder to be a small data center that has less restrictions.

804
01:09:08,330 --> 01:09:25,550
Second, we've heard that maybe some standards about water usage in addition to square footage and megawatt use would be helpful to maybe define what category somebody falls into.

805
01:09:26,410 --> 01:09:37,810
I'd like to ask if you could look at the 500 foot from a residence, that still seems small to me, and I wonder if it could be a larger distance.

806
01:09:40,270 --> 01:09:54,990
You may have to consult with legal, but I'd like to see a proviso that all of the data and all of the information that's used to make the decision about

807
01:09:54,990 --> 01:09:59,510
what capacity, what category something falls into is public.

808
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:19,460
And not kept secret. We've heard a lot about non-disclosure of agreements in North Louisiana, and I'd like to see if we can add a condition that requires any application for any data center to have full information available to the public.

809
01:10:20,580 --> 01:10:21,140
I

810
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:30,680
don't know if it's possible to require medium data centers to have their own power plants

811
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:36,980
so that they aren't drawing from the grid that serves residential homes.

812
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,520
I know throughout the country sometimes they build their own power plants.

813
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,520
I don't know if you could look into that.

814
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:50,920
And I don't know if it's a laundry list, but these are things that everybody has that I've

815
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,440
gleaned from the comments.

816
01:10:54,300 --> 01:11:00,960
And I think I think Commissioner Poshe's comment was apropos that this is really serious

817
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:08,860
and we want to cover all these points and put all the work on you, Laura, but you've done

818
01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:12,000
such a good job so far that maybe you can handle all this stuff.

819
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,620
I did hear a suggestion that maybe there be a limit,

820
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,980
so many data centers per, and I don't

821
01:11:21,980 --> 01:11:29,900
know what, per, per radius of some distance so that they don't all get concentrated in

822
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:33,420
the same place, if there are going to be any.

823
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:41,940
So if you could look into some of those issues, I think that would be good at our next meeting

824
01:11:41,940 --> 01:11:45,300
those could be addressed, you know, one way or the other.

825
01:11:45,820 --> 01:11:48,320
And I have a few more to add, at least,

826
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:54,800
that the institutional limitations be the same

827
01:11:54,800 --> 01:12:00,080
as defined for the small and medium, there was just sort of a caveat that it could apply

828
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:15,890
to those educational and medical campuses, but not necessarily saying that it needs to

829
01:12:15,890 --> 01:12:16,970
to schools.

830
01:12:20,730 --> 01:12:25,790
And in the report, it does say that there's no on-site power generation, and I'm

831
01:12:25,790 --> 01:12:34,990
just wondering why that was stated. Yeah, we looked at that, and it seemed, well, from what we

832
01:12:34,990 --> 01:12:39,410
gather, the information we started seeing was that when there was on-site power generation,

833
01:12:39,410 --> 01:12:44,770
you started to get into a different world of permitting and allowances, and you started getting

834
01:12:44,770 --> 01:12:47,470
into more air quality issues and other types

835
01:12:47,470 --> 01:12:49,450
of potential negative impacts.

836
01:12:49,770 --> 01:12:53,250
And so we pulled that possibility from data centers

837
01:12:53,250 --> 01:12:55,950
to be able to generate their own power.

838
01:12:56,730 --> 01:12:59,790
In this report, but we can dive again into that

839
01:12:59,790 --> 01:13:04,150
and look at onsite power generation specifically for medium

840
01:13:04,150 --> 01:13:07,310
and see if there's more standards or regulations

841
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:08,810
that could be put in place.

842
01:13:09,630 --> 01:13:12,350
It's just a different space and we usually work in.

843
01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:13,510
So we might need to pull some other.

844
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:15,410
and it'll usually limit itself out

845
01:13:15,410 --> 01:13:17,490
just based on those regulations alone.

846
01:13:19,190 --> 01:13:22,630
And the last was the International Building

847
01:13:22,630 --> 01:13:27,410
cause IBC is coming up with this guideline for data centers

848
01:13:27,410 --> 01:13:31,550
and I would just request that we consider

849
01:13:32,210 --> 01:13:34,750
whatever that guideline is that we exceed that.

850
01:13:35,210 --> 01:13:37,410
So not just meeting the minimum standard

851
01:13:37,410 --> 01:13:41,030
but requiring above and beyond in both instances

852
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:43,390
of small and medium.

853
01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:51,200
I'll add technician of lakes, districts, and schools, but also distances to retirement or memory

854
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:54,060
care facilities, you know, just of our age and population.

855
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:01,420
I'm on the fence about, you know, I realize as planners we also need to define the data

856
01:14:01,420 --> 01:14:02,120
centers.

857
01:14:03,980 --> 01:14:09,720
I could do an outright band, but I understand this wrap to sub here and this discussion is

858
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:19,480
It's good you need to be able to define something first, so I will support this motion as we go ahead and start a voter.

859
01:14:19,620 --> 01:14:20,640
Are there any other comments?

860
01:14:21,740 --> 01:14:27,240
I do have a list of requests if we were to defer that the staff would explore.

861
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,540
And I can provide these so you don't need to write them quickly.

862
01:14:31,220 --> 01:14:35,160
Develop a clear utility review standard and approval criteria.

863
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:40,780
establish ongoing monitoring and reporting requirements,

864
01:14:43,410 --> 01:14:47,590
clarify enforcement mechanisms and consequences for non-compliance.

865
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:58,620
evaluate requiring closed loop cooling systems, evaluate cumulative city-wide utility impact limits.

866
01:15:00,270 --> 01:15:20,190
Strington standards for backup power generation, developed decommissioning and site restoration requirements, likewise emergency response and shutdown requirements, and evaluate whether pending data center building code standards warrant additional provisions.

867
01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:25,670
Anymore?

868
01:15:25,690 --> 01:15:25,970
Good?

869
01:15:30,150 --> 01:15:31,350
Well then I'll call the vote.

870
01:15:31,550 --> 01:15:32,410
Commissioner Seek.

871
01:15:33,650 --> 01:15:34,610
Commissioner Wittre, yes.

872
01:15:35,010 --> 01:15:35,330
Commissioner Flick.

873
01:15:35,650 --> 01:15:35,670
Yes.

874
01:15:35,890 --> 01:15:36,870
Commissioner Aver.

875
01:15:36,990 --> 01:15:37,290
Yes.

876
01:15:37,450 --> 01:15:38,130
Commissioner Kapper.

877
01:15:38,450 --> 01:15:38,550
Yes.

878
01:15:38,710 --> 01:15:39,450
Commissioner Potje.

879
01:15:39,730 --> 01:15:40,070
Yes.

880
01:15:40,330 --> 01:15:41,030
Commissioner Jackson.

881
01:15:43,170 --> 01:15:43,410
All right.

882
01:15:43,630 --> 01:15:44,590
So the motion carries.

883
01:15:44,610 --> 01:15:48,950
This is deferment for 59 days.

884
01:15:49,930 --> 01:15:52,710
And the executive director is going to ask the council's

885
01:15:52,710 --> 01:15:57,930
that went ahead and produced this text amendment to work with us on timing.

886
01:15:59,470 --> 01:16:05,710
Thank you all for coming today and spending your afternoon with us and sharing all of the

887
01:16:05,710 --> 01:16:10,630
data points on advocating for your neighborhoods and the city of New Orleans.

888
01:16:12,250 --> 01:16:16,550
We're going to move on now to the Capital Improvement Project.

889
01:16:17,950 --> 01:16:19,450
Ms. Brian, it's on again.

890
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:33,220
Yeah. Yeah, pushy. You second is a motion. Oh, Jackson. The other thing. Yeah.

891
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,200
I was like, that was Jackson.

892
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,900
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

893
01:16:53,700 --> 01:16:54,740
All right.

894
01:17:03,650 --> 01:17:07,590
We're very excited to hear what you have to share.

895
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:14,160
So this first one is the amendment to the Capital Improvement Plan.

896
01:17:14,180 --> 01:17:21,340
This is to serve as a public hearing for eight additional requests which weren't submitted to us by the time the plan was being considered.

897
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,780
So the first two requests were included and will be included in the plan.

898
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:36,140
The other six requests are additional requests that are requests for bond funding that were made earlier this month as a cost saving metric by the administration.

899
01:17:36,140 --> 01:17:44,160
the request is to pay for six different projects through capital that are eligible for capital

900
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:50,200
bond funding. The first is for a cyber infrastructure refresh for 4.2 million and the second is

901
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,080
for repairs. The city's data center on the third floor for 1.7 million.

902
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,140
The next two. Excuse me, Ms. Bryant.

903
01:17:56,340 --> 01:17:57,660
I just-

904
01:17:57,660 --> 01:18:04,140
You all excuse me everybody. If you don't mind to sort of moving away from the mic just because we do have

905
01:18:04,140 --> 01:18:05,980
business that we need to conduct today.

906
01:18:06,140 --> 01:18:07,580
Thank you all so much for coming.

907
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,240
I want to be able to hear what Ms. Brian is saying.

908
01:18:13,060 --> 01:18:14,100
All right, continue, please.

909
01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:17,980
Yes, the next two requests are from the CAO's office.

910
01:18:18,180 --> 01:18:21,680
They're for a fire station alerting system for 2.4 million

911
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,600
and justice technology modernization project for 25.3 million.

912
01:18:25,980 --> 01:18:28,560
The next request is from DPW for traffic signal

913
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,500
past arm upgrades at 778,000.

914
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,100
The next is for biosafety lab updates

915
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:36,700
for mosquito termite and rodent control board.

916
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,800
The file for 298,000.

917
01:18:39,980 --> 01:18:43,320
The following one is for new police dog channels for NOPD,

918
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:47,740
117,000, and the last of these amendment requests

919
01:18:47,740 --> 01:18:50,900
is for capital improvements for New Orleans Public Schools

920
01:18:50,900 --> 01:18:52,140
for 5 million.

921
01:18:52,740 --> 01:18:54,840
Staff recommends, essentially, a approval

922
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,480
of this amendment report.

923
01:18:56,480 --> 01:19:01,620
And it's just so we can include all of the proposed projects within the Capital Improvement Plan.

924
01:19:03,490 --> 01:19:05,570
Who'd be looking for an approval to add these?

925
01:19:06,030 --> 01:19:06,190
All right.

926
01:19:06,330 --> 01:19:10,550
Is there any questions or a motion to go ahead and add these eight projects?

927
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:12,790
Commissioner Add Jackson.

928
01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:13,590
Yes.

929
01:19:13,670 --> 01:19:18,370
I want to ask for a motion on the floor to approve the eight proposals.

930
01:19:18,910 --> 01:19:19,390
Projects.

931
01:19:19,550 --> 01:19:19,910
Oh, I'm sorry.

932
01:19:20,110 --> 01:19:20,690
The other page.

933
01:19:21,370 --> 01:19:21,850
Projects.

934
01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:23,570
All right.

935
01:19:23,630 --> 01:19:24,350
Is there a second?

936
01:19:24,350 --> 01:19:30,270
Thank you commissioner Jackson and seconded by commissioner A bear any discussion.

937
01:19:31,810 --> 01:19:34,610
If not let's go ahead and vote commissioner Jackson.

938
01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:35,530
Yes.

939
01:19:35,530 --> 01:19:36,770
Mr. Poshay.

940
01:19:37,490 --> 01:19:37,510
Yes.

941
01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:38,210
Mr. Keper.

942
01:19:38,710 --> 01:19:40,250
Mr. A bear.

943
01:19:40,710 --> 01:19:40,810
Yes.

944
01:19:41,310 --> 01:19:41,570
Yes.

945
01:19:41,670 --> 01:19:42,050
Mr. Flick.

946
01:19:42,490 --> 01:19:43,250
Mr. Flick.

947
01:19:45,670 --> 01:19:46,950
Commissioner Husty.

948
01:19:47,810 --> 01:19:48,250
Yes.

949
01:19:48,970 --> 01:19:59,030
Okay, so we'd love to include these eight projects in the capital improvement draft amendment.

950
01:20:00,750 --> 01:20:09,070
All right, now we're going to move on. So this is the 2027 through 2031 capital improvement plan.

951
01:20:10,710 --> 01:20:17,210
Okay, today we're going to go through the legal background and CPC responsibilities, the CIP development process.

952
01:20:17,690 --> 01:20:28,370
Just to describe the funding categories, provide an overview of funding requests and analysis of the submissions by categories and project types and then provide proposed priorities recommendations in the next.

953
01:20:30,750 --> 01:20:36,490
So the legal background and CPC responsibilities, the charter requires that the City Planning Commission

954
01:20:36,490 --> 01:20:41,050
prepare the Capital Improvement Plan and assist the Chief Administrative Officer in the

955
01:20:41,050 --> 01:20:47,250
preparation of the annual Capital Budget. The Capital Improvement Plan includes five years of proposed

956
01:20:47,250 --> 01:20:55,250
capital expenditures from 2027 through 2031. Staff reviews each project to ensure consistency

957
01:20:55,250 --> 01:20:58,330
with the master plan, the plan for the 21st century.

958
01:20:58,950 --> 01:21:03,310
A project is consistent with the master plan, if it furtheres, or at least is not interfere

959
01:21:03,310 --> 01:21:07,690
with the goals, policies, and guidelines, and the land use element of the master plan,

960
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:11,470
or the project is compatible with the proposed future land use.

961
01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:17,190
While some projects do not have specific addresses, they are consistent by contributing to

962
01:21:17,190 --> 01:21:23,530
goals or policies within different chapters of the master plan. The CPC works closely with

963
01:21:23,530 --> 01:21:28,730
File Home in Capital Budget Director and Jerry Harris from Capital Project Administration to

964
01:21:28,730 --> 01:21:31,030
coordinate the capital plan each year.

965
01:21:31,950 --> 01:21:37,330
The submissions were due on May 1st and CPC Health Public hearings from May 18th through

966
01:21:37,330 --> 01:21:40,850
May 27th for departments to present the request.

967
01:21:41,850 --> 01:21:48,830
It's being considered today and is required to be submitted to the mayor by September 15th.

968
01:21:52,670 --> 01:22:03,530
So the development process, the process kicks off in April with a webinar for city agencies and then each agency works with capital projects liaison to coordinate their submissions.

969
01:22:04,510 --> 01:22:11,870
This year, we used the software Questica as we did last year for the first time to receive all the individual project requests.

970
01:22:12,350 --> 01:22:20,750
Once the request are submitted online the staff collects and reviews each request and then holds the public hearings for the departments to present each request.

971
01:22:20,750 --> 01:22:28,750
We also had IT develop a public-facing dashboard with the project information, so it's more accessible to the public.

972
01:22:30,050 --> 01:22:35,410
The staff reviews each request for Master Plan consistency and compiles the capital improvement plan.

973
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:49,940
So the funding categories, there are four really four main funding categories, it's general obligation bonds, self-generated funds, intergovernmental funds, and then federal grant funds.

974
01:22:49,940 --> 01:22:53,700
either from U.S. Department of Transportation or from EPA.

975
01:22:56,550 --> 01:23:02,410
This year, 27 agencies submitted a total of 187 requests.

976
01:23:03,330 --> 01:23:07,610
Most of those are four general obligation bonds.

977
01:23:08,430 --> 01:23:11,330
Some were from the self-generated funds,

978
01:23:11,710 --> 01:23:15,370
and then there were intergovernmental and federal funds for the projects.

979
01:23:18,730 --> 01:23:19,330
Largely

980
01:23:26,820 --> 01:23:31,060
projects that are requests for capital funds fell under a short number of categories.

981
01:23:31,460 --> 01:23:35,860
Staff spent time this year categorizing each project submitted to gain an understanding

982
01:23:35,860 --> 01:23:39,140
of what types of requests are primarily going through the CIP.

983
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:44,300
Primary categories include planning, which are requests generally referring to studies, design

984
01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:48,860
work, feasibility analysis, or pre-construction activities needed before a project

985
01:23:48,860 --> 01:23:53,780
to move forward, renovation or continuing maintenance requests involve repair, rehabilitation,

986
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:57,960
replacement, or ongoing upkeep of existing facilities and infrastructure.

987
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,080
Equipment requests cover the purchase or replacement of major items such as vehicles,

988
01:24:03,340 --> 01:24:05,600
machinery, or specialized operational equipment.

989
01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:11,700
Technology requests included hardware, software, systems or infrastructure that supports public

990
01:24:11,700 --> 01:24:13,640
services and administrative operations.

991
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:18,460
New construction requests are for building new facilities or major additions, will land

992
01:24:18,460 --> 01:24:22,180
requisition requests involve purchasing property needed for future use.

993
01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:26,680
Majority of requests are for repair or continuing maintenance of existing facilities.

994
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,340
So during the process, the departments rank their projects in two ways.

995
01:24:34,660 --> 01:24:38,920
The first way is by identifying which of the projects are the highest priority to the department.

996
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:46,820
The second is by ranking each project against 19 criteria to generate a score within an evaluation matrix.

997
01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:52,560
Upon analysis of the department's priorities versus the CIP matrix scores, the data revealed

998
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,960
that the projects that scored the highest with the departments were not always the highest

999
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,180
scoring CIP matrix project.

1000
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:14,260
The data shows that the nature of the highest-ranked projects by the department tend to relate to immediate operational needs and deferred maintenance, while the CIP matrix favors assets, longevity, resilience, and multi-benefit public infrastructure.

1001
01:25:14,260 --> 01:25:22,660
And so this cable basically shows the highest matrix scoring projects ranked by the

1002
01:25:22,660 --> 01:25:28,500
Department, I'm sorry, the highest matrix scoring projects, the amount requested, the score,

1003
01:25:28,820 --> 01:25:32,920
the department that submitted the project, and also you'll see that they are separated into

1004
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:40,060
different funding tiers. We received 187 requests and they range in terms of total project amount

1005
01:25:40,060 --> 01:25:47,080
funding. So as opposed to just doing by the highest amount requested in order to really capture

1006
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:52,020
the diversity in the capital project needs requests, we broke them out into different fiscal

1007
01:25:52,020 --> 01:25:52,560
tiers.

1008
01:25:55,890 --> 01:26:02,570
I have a question. Have we really dug into the deferred maintenance issue in terms of

1009
01:26:02,570 --> 01:26:12,410
like that being part of a capital expenditure versus just to do? To qualify to be part of the

1010
01:26:12,410 --> 01:26:17,650
The dollar value has to be over $5,000, and it has to be a lifespan of 10 years.

1011
01:26:18,210 --> 01:26:23,810
And so you do get these sort of large investments that are continuing maintenance and

1012
01:26:23,810 --> 01:26:28,710
renovation of facilities that are, you know, HVAC repair, elevator repair, these large

1013
01:26:28,710 --> 01:26:29,550
expenses.

1014
01:26:30,710 --> 01:26:37,810
But Kyle Mr. Homan is here, and he does do an analysis of each quest to make sure that,

1015
01:26:38,130 --> 01:26:40,650
I mean, I'm curious when those dollar amounts were established.

1016
01:26:41,650 --> 01:26:45,990
How do you define it when the 5,000?

1017
01:26:46,210 --> 01:26:47,310
It's just like what year.

1018
01:26:47,670 --> 01:26:48,530
It just seems low.

1019
01:26:49,170 --> 01:26:51,530
Or just the price to do anything.

1020
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:52,910
We can look into it.

1021
01:26:53,650 --> 01:26:54,590
Thank you.

1022
01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:58,570
Questions?

1023
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:01,680
We're keeping up with this.

1024
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:02,340
Next.

1025
01:27:05,180 --> 01:27:09,060
So during the CPC review period, staff conducted three site visits.

1026
01:27:09,060 --> 01:27:10,960
One to the nulla crime lab.

1027
01:27:11,220 --> 01:27:13,940
The public safety warehouse and the Maribou Water Gardens.

1028
01:27:13,940 --> 01:27:21,220
While many of the issues in terms of the NOAA Crime Lab are general maintenance issues for the NOAA Crime Lab,

1029
01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:29,380
part of the request is also to redesign the fourth floor to allow for compliance with federal regulations in order to gain access to an FBI database.

1030
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,200
This would allow the Department to conduct nationwide DNA searches in-house.

1031
01:27:33,740 --> 01:27:39,160
Currently, the facility is an adequate and it's designed to receive this access, so that's a part of that one request.

1032
01:27:39,780 --> 01:27:44,380
The Public Safety Warehouse is a request to increase capacity and prove the existing facility

1033
01:27:44,380 --> 01:27:50,000
to further support the needs of our emergency service providers, NLFD, EMS, and the NOPD.

1034
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,840
And the Mayor of Water Gardens project has made significant progress.

1035
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:58,180
The Public Park portion of the site is slated to open soon.

1036
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:03,480
An portion of the site, as you can see, is also still under construction, but that is one

1037
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:06,700
of our storm water management projects coming online.

1038
01:28:07,260 --> 01:28:07,820
So, big stuff.

1039
01:28:11,530 --> 01:28:12,270
Okay,

1040
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:43,220
so unlike last year, the amount of bond funds that are available to be allocated is zero dollars that have been attributed to the project, that's because last year the CIP was informed that the bond proposition that went out to the voters in the fall of 2025, the voters approved a 510 million bond initiative, and so there were allocations throughout the CIP last year sort of allocating that potential future bonds sale.

1041
01:28:43,220 --> 01:28:50,500
This year, what we have heard is that the 510 million will be sold in three at three different

1042
01:28:50,500 --> 01:28:50,940
moments.

1043
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,280
The first group of the 510 million was sold this summer.

1044
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,580
We have Kyle here who could provide more information.

1045
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:04,880
The city council adopted project lists based on the submissions from last year for infrastructure

1046
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:11,960
for stormwater and green infrastructure and, sorry, stormwater and drainage and then

1047
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:20,560
affordable housing was the third bucket of projects under the bond proposition and those would

1048
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,740
be determined by the housing trust funds advisory committee.

1049
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:30,520
And so all the requests this year you'll see in the Capital Improvement Plan are that all

1050
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:35,960
the requests that are submitted for bond funds will have a zero dollar recommendation and

1051
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:41,940
that is because any of these future bonds sales that will happen to fulfill the 510 million

1052
01:29:41,940 --> 01:29:46,860
will go to those projects that are on those lists. What we do know is that those lists

1053
01:29:46,860 --> 01:29:54,320
can be amended. They have been amended twice so far. One of our recommendations for those future

1054
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:59,940
sales is that the projects that are prioritized are continuing maintenance and renovating.

1055
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,300
The presentation of existing facilities as opposed to the creation of new facilities. We see so many of those projects coming in.

1056
01:30:07,780 --> 01:30:16,920
And the other recommendation we have is to modify that list to include some of those projects that were previously removed from the list, which is the June-Aljustice and Prevention Center.

1057
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:25,640
They had a series of projects last year that we recommended for funding, and then they were removed from the infrastructure list and so we recommend that would be put back on.

1058
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,260
And I think that concludes mainly.

1059
01:30:32,130 --> 01:30:34,330
Okay, so the next steps is agree today.

1060
01:30:34,450 --> 01:30:35,890
We're presenting it to you.

1061
01:30:36,430 --> 01:30:38,190
This would be approved.

1062
01:30:38,690 --> 01:30:42,430
And then it has to be sent to the mayor by September 15th.

1063
01:30:43,470 --> 01:30:47,550
And the administration will prepare the capital budget and submit it to the city council.

1064
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:51,190
And then the city council will hear the capital improvement plan and the capital budget.

1065
01:30:51,570 --> 01:30:56,930
And approve a capital budget ordinance by December 1st.

1066
01:31:05,660 --> 01:31:08,720
That was an exceptional presentation.

1067
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,620
There's so much information.

1068
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,560
I'm just amazed at all of the inner workings here.

1069
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:21,800
And I'm going to just, we have four new commissioners

1070
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,660
that this is your first capital improvement project presentation.

1071
01:31:25,060 --> 01:31:25,760
So we're welcome.

1072
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,000
We're glad that you're here to be able to listen to it

1073
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,060
and be a part of this process.

1074
01:31:29,300 --> 01:31:29,880
It's annual.

1075
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,880
And so I think we're probably going to have,

1076
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:39,960
are you going to come up and say anything maybe yes I think I mean I think it would be

1077
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,180
helpful to introduce yourself just because we also have four new commissioners and for

1078
01:31:43,180 --> 01:31:46,000
institutional knowledge it would be nice

1079
01:31:54,670 --> 01:32:00,170
now we can all right there you go there I can you all right after then my name's Kyle

1080
01:32:00,170 --> 01:32:06,130
home and I'm a director for capital budget and fiscal management and so Laura had mentioned

1081
01:32:06,130 --> 01:32:09,530
earlier this is our second year having everything submitted in

1082
01:32:09,530 --> 01:32:14,190
Questaca which has really helped us efficiency-wise with this

1083
01:32:14,190 --> 01:32:19,650
entire process so that has given us the opportunity at looking at how we

1084
01:32:19,650 --> 01:32:24,230
can make this process better in future years. So we've done a lot of

1085
01:32:24,230 --> 01:32:29,770
kind of analysis and beginning that work of what will future CIP processes

1086
01:32:29,770 --> 01:32:34,170
look at whether we're looking at like maintenance and operation costs that

1087
01:32:34,170 --> 01:32:41,610
come along with these CIPs, you know, a stronger definition of what constitutes a repair versus

1088
01:32:41,610 --> 01:32:48,170
what constitutes a renovation and more eligible for the capital budget and just in addition

1089
01:32:48,170 --> 01:32:54,450
to that being able to look at the different funding sources because we rely heavily on bonds

1090
01:32:54,450 --> 01:32:57,950
but also federal grants to get a lot of these projects done.

1091
01:32:57,950 --> 01:33:05,590
And so we are making improvements every year with kind of this process and we've already

1092
01:33:05,590 --> 01:33:11,990
also talked about kind of what incorporating Susan Waterboard into our capital budget planning

1093
01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:19,330
will look like for the future because that was recently required by the Council starting this

1094
01:33:19,330 --> 01:33:26,140
year and moving forward because especially with our public works projects every time we're

1095
01:33:26,140 --> 01:33:30,920
We're tearing up a street, we need a coordinate closely with Susan Waterboard on those uneground

1096
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,640
utilities at the same time.

1097
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:39,100
So having that planning together at the beginning will help kind of avoid these issues about

1098
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:44,840
his paying for what and not having to dig up streets after they've already been paved.

1099
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:49,480
Thank you so much.

1100
01:33:49,700 --> 01:33:53,940
It's nice just being this is probably my fifth or sixth year listening and I can tell

1101
01:33:53,940 --> 01:34:00,080
last few years, it's been more streamlined, great presentation, more efficiency involved,

1102
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,920
and so we love hearing those things, and we're seeing it as well.

1103
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,140
So thank you. You all have any questions?

1104
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,580
Should we come up with a list of things for staff to pursue like we did last time?

1105
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:13,520
Yes.

1106
01:34:16,780 --> 01:34:18,700
Yes. Commissioner, if like did you want to,

1107
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:22,760
okay.

1108
01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:29,780
I was just genuinely curious about the minimum amount just because in order to do pretty

1109
01:34:29,780 --> 01:34:36,840
much anything, even replace a very small AC unit or even lights can easily eat up that

1110
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:37,700
minimum amount.

1111
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:43,240
So just in terms of like how, you know, we have all this data that appears to be electronic,

1112
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:44,140
right?

1113
01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:50,700
Like how are we evaluating that data and using that to sort of trim the fat if you will on

1114
01:34:50,700 --> 01:34:56,040
operate on an annual basis for, you know, what can be just ongoing maintenance versus which

1115
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,880
really a capital expenditure. I think that's something really interesting.

1116
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:06,580
That we can sort of hold on to now that we have the data and this sort of format.

1117
01:35:09,380 --> 01:35:15,060
Thank you. That's exactly why I asked. Yes, Commissioner Stan Mova Prouble.

1118
01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:16,440
Thank you. Is there a second?

1119
01:35:17,460 --> 01:35:24,200
Thank you. We have a motion on the floor for approval for the Capital Improvement Plan. Is there any discussion?

1120
01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:28,620
All right. Let's vote. Commissioner C.

1121
01:35:28,620 --> 01:35:29,060
Yes.

1122
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:30,580
Commissioner Witchery?

1123
01:35:30,580 --> 01:35:31,240
Yes.

1124
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:35,780
Commissioner Abear?

1125
01:35:37,140 --> 01:35:37,780
Commissioner Kappa?

1126
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:39,970
And Commissioner Poshay?

1127
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:40,840
Yes.

1128
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:41,520
Okay.

1129
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:43,880
And Commissioner Jackson.

1130
01:35:44,340 --> 01:35:44,680
Yes.

1131
01:35:45,440 --> 01:35:45,960
Thank you.

1132
01:35:46,060 --> 01:35:47,140
So the motion carries.

1133
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:48,820
Good luck.

1134
01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:49,880
Thank you.

1135
01:35:51,060 --> 01:35:54,760
And I believe we can now move into this subdivision ratifications.

1136
01:35:55,180 --> 01:35:56,480
Thank you for being here.

1137
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:04,040
Thank you ladies to for a great report.

1138
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:08,140
You have several submissions to red sign.

1139
01:36:08,180 --> 01:36:09,420
All right, is there a motion?

1140
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:10,160
So moved.

1141
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:11,480
Thank you, is there a second?

1142
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:13,060
Thank you.

1143
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,600
Commissioner Flick, moved for approval.

1144
01:36:15,860 --> 01:36:17,220
Commissioner Jackson second.

1145
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:17,860
Any discussion?

1146
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:19,840
All right.

1147
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:21,440
Commissioner Jackson.

1148
01:36:23,690 --> 01:36:24,770
Commissioner Poshay.

1149
01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:26,270
Commissioner Kappa.

1150
01:36:27,110 --> 01:36:27,950
Commissioner Abear.

1151
01:36:29,010 --> 01:36:29,770
Commissioner Flick.

1152
01:36:30,170 --> 01:36:30,210
Yes.

1153
01:36:30,210 --> 01:36:35,570
Commissioner Wettries again. Yes. Yes. And I'll need a motion to adjourn.

1154
01:36:36,550 --> 01:36:46,830
Motion. Thank you. All in favor. Everyone. Thank you for helping us today with all the tech to. I know you can hear me.