1 00:00:15,219 --> 00:00:18,219 and trades board for AUGUST 2 00:00:18,956 --> 00:00:20,956 27th 2026. 3 00:00:23,994 --> 00:00:24,361 >> we get a roll call mary folk 4 00:00:24,361 --> 00:00:25,280 out here. 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,997 >> randolph mcdonald here. 6 00:00:26,997 --> 00:00:28,997 Frank dalton here. 7 00:00:31,670 --> 00:00:31,368 >> bob warner here in front 8 00:00:31,368 --> 00:00:33,368 of me. 9 00:00:33,637 --> 00:00:36,637 >> yeah heidi I was walking 10 00:00:38,109 --> 00:00:38,442 right? 11 00:00:38,442 --> 00:00:38,976 Right. 12 00:00:38,976 --> 00:00:40,911 I did roll call. 13 00:00:40,911 --> 00:00:41,377 I need disclosure of x party 14 00:00:41,377 --> 00:00:43,246 communications. 15 00:00:43,246 --> 00:00:45,246 >> okay. 16 00:00:47,118 --> 00:00:49,118 No. 17 00:00:50,988 --> 00:00:51,621 >> and we want to read for 18 00:00:51,621 --> 00:00:54,210 approval of the previous 19 00:00:57,661 --> 00:00:58,128 meeting minutes 20 00:00:58,128 --> 00:00:58,996 . 21 00:00:58,996 --> 00:01:01,996 >> I'll approve to approve the 22 00:01:02,660 --> 00:01:02,399 minutes for JULY 23rd, 2026 a 23 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:04,399 second. 24 00:01:05,102 --> 00:01:07,102 >> the motion. 25 00:01:09,172 --> 00:01:09,507 Mary flicker? 26 00:01:09,507 --> 00:01:10,700 >> yes. 27 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:12,700 Randolph mcmahon. 28 00:01:12,877 --> 00:01:13,343 Yes. 29 00:01:13,343 --> 00:01:13,611 >> frank dalton. 30 00:01:13,611 --> 00:01:14,112 Yes. 31 00:01:14,112 --> 00:01:16,112 Heidi has walker. 32 00:01:16,213 --> 00:01:16,713 Yes. 33 00:01:16,713 --> 00:01:18,713 Bob warner yes. 34 00:01:19,583 --> 00:01:21,583 The motion carries. 35 00:01:25,220 --> 00:01:27,158 Let the secretaries who are in 36 00:01:27,158 --> 00:01:27,892 the city staff and anyone 37 00:01:27,892 --> 00:01:30,892 wishing to speak on behalf 38 00:01:31,562 --> 00:01:32,296 of the property owners or 39 00:01:32,296 --> 00:01:35,660 wishing to speak regarding the 40 00:01:35,660 --> 00:01:35,366 case before the board please 41 00:01:35,366 --> 00:01:37,366 rise. 42 00:01:38,336 --> 00:01:41,336 Please stand and raise your 43 00:01:44,542 --> 00:01:45,743 right hand 44 00:01:45,743 --> 00:01:46,444 in the matter to 45 00:01:46,444 --> 00:01:46,810 which you are about to give 46 00:01:46,810 --> 00:01:48,810 testimony. 47 00:01:49,481 --> 00:01:50,214 Do you swear or affirm to tell 48 00:01:50,214 --> 00:01:50,815 the truth, the whole truth and 49 00:01:50,815 --> 00:01:51,715 nothing but the truth? 50 00:01:51,715 --> 00:01:54,715 The witnesses have been sworn 51 00:01:57,755 --> 00:01:59,755 in 52 00:02:03,940 --> 00:02:05,940 . 53 00:02:07,265 --> 00:02:09,835 >> the first case is five a blt 54 00:02:09,835 --> 00:02:11,835 that's 00025 that's 2026 350 55 00:02:13,204 --> 00:02:13,705 mission drive officer barbara 56 00:02:13,705 --> 00:02:15,705 goebel presenting. 57 00:02:16,541 --> 00:02:18,541 >> good afternoon. 58 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:20,812 I have some information I would 59 00:02:20,812 --> 00:02:24,282 like to submit as an exhibit. 60 00:02:24,282 --> 00:02:24,916 It is the order from the 61 00:02:24,916 --> 00:02:27,316 previous hearing that was 62 00:02:28,286 --> 00:02:31,886 requested by the board to give 63 00:02:32,557 --> 00:02:33,257 some clear detail on what the 64 00:02:33,257 --> 00:02:36,257 property owner needed to do. 65 00:02:36,394 --> 00:02:37,228 So I just want to submit this 66 00:02:37,228 --> 00:02:42,280 copy to each of you so you can 67 00:02:43,335 --> 00:02:43,735 review it. 68 00:02:43,735 --> 00:02:45,735 Thank you. 69 00:02:49,541 --> 00:02:50,410 How is it looking? 70 00:02:50,410 --> 00:02:52,410 The building. 71 00:02:53,211 --> 00:02:55,211 Oh, okay. 72 00:02:59,652 --> 00:03:00,719 Thank you 73 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:01,152 . 74 00:03:01,152 --> 00:03:03,152 Oh okay. 75 00:03:07,392 --> 00:03:09,392 Good 76 00:03:11,129 --> 00:03:13,129 . 77 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:17,536 >> okay, so this case was 78 00:03:17,536 --> 00:03:18,270 presented on JULY 23rd, 2026 79 00:03:18,270 --> 00:03:21,270 and at that hearing the 80 00:03:21,306 --> 00:03:23,706 building trade board continued 81 00:03:24,309 --> 00:03:24,743 the case to the AUGUST 27th, 82 00:03:24,743 --> 00:03:26,743 2026 hearing. 83 00:03:27,780 --> 00:03:28,513 Based on the testimony and 84 00:03:28,513 --> 00:03:31,383 evidence presented to the board 85 00:03:31,383 --> 00:03:32,150 on JULY 24, 2026, the board 86 00:03:32,150 --> 00:03:35,150 ordered to continue the hearing 87 00:03:35,688 --> 00:03:36,455 outlining actions needed to be 88 00:03:36,455 --> 00:03:39,455 completed by the property owner 89 00:03:39,725 --> 00:03:40,459 teresa and gascon and or entity 90 00:03:40,459 --> 00:03:43,295 was mailed certified mail to 91 00:03:43,295 --> 00:03:44,620 the property owner and was 92 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:44,430 signed for and accepted on JULY 93 00:03:44,430 --> 00:03:46,430 30th 2026. 94 00:03:47,867 --> 00:03:50,802 The property was also posted on 95 00:03:50,802 --> 00:03:51,537 JULY 20th ninth 2026 and an 96 00:03:51,537 --> 00:03:54,537 affidavit of posting was also 97 00:03:54,807 --> 00:03:55,774 completed for the file. 98 00:03:55,774 --> 00:03:59,144 At the last hearing the owner 99 00:03:59,144 --> 00:04:02,144 had a permit for electrical 100 00:04:02,414 --> 00:04:03,480 work that with an initial 101 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,448 inspection that had been 102 00:04:05,985 --> 00:04:06,352 completed by the building 103 00:04:06,352 --> 00:04:07,860 official. 104 00:04:07,860 --> 00:04:09,922 >> the final inspection to my 105 00:04:09,922 --> 00:04:13,259 knowledge has for the work was 106 00:04:13,259 --> 00:04:13,659 also completed on JULY 23rd 107 00:04:13,659 --> 00:04:14,426 2020 sachs. 108 00:04:14,426 --> 00:04:17,129 >> the permit was issued to 109 00:04:17,129 --> 00:04:17,696 replace the toilet and to make 110 00:04:17,696 --> 00:04:19,696 the drywall repairs. 111 00:04:20,799 --> 00:04:21,301 To date no other permits have 112 00:04:21,301 --> 00:04:23,301 been applied for. 113 00:04:24,270 --> 00:04:27,270 On AUGUST 4th, 2026 I followed 114 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:28,274 up with jay, the husband of the 115 00:04:28,274 --> 00:04:29,410 property owner, to discuss the 116 00:04:29,410 --> 00:04:31,144 board order to make sure that 117 00:04:31,144 --> 00:04:31,511 he understood what the board is 118 00:04:31,511 --> 00:04:33,511 requiring. 119 00:04:34,647 --> 00:04:35,347 >> and jay stated that he did 120 00:04:35,347 --> 00:04:38,251 understand and he was working 121 00:04:38,251 --> 00:04:39,119 on getting an engineer. 122 00:04:39,119 --> 00:04:42,488 After that day I did not have 123 00:04:42,488 --> 00:04:45,488 any other contact with the 124 00:04:46,159 --> 00:04:46,926 property owner and the will 125 00:04:46,926 --> 00:04:47,360 update the board at this time. 126 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,360 >> thank you. 127 00:04:53,232 --> 00:04:55,232 Thank you. 128 00:04:58,238 --> 00:04:58,872 >> good evening, ladies and 129 00:04:58,872 --> 00:04:59,605 gentlemen of the board. 130 00:04:59,605 --> 00:05:00,339 My name is steve woodworth and 131 00:05:00,339 --> 00:05:01,208 the building official in new 132 00:05:01,208 --> 00:05:02,175 smyrna beach. 133 00:05:02,175 --> 00:05:05,112 I have not had any contact with 134 00:05:05,112 --> 00:05:05,545 the property owner since the 135 00:05:05,545 --> 00:05:06,246 last meeting. 136 00:05:06,246 --> 00:05:09,149 He has pulled no additional 137 00:05:09,149 --> 00:05:09,916 apartments that I am aware 138 00:05:09,916 --> 00:05:14,116 of or that we show on the 139 00:05:14,787 --> 00:05:15,522 building department record. 140 00:05:15,522 --> 00:05:18,692 Given that I cannot offer any 141 00:05:18,692 --> 00:05:19,559 new information or testimony to 142 00:05:19,559 --> 00:05:22,829 this case, I prefer to defer my 143 00:05:22,829 --> 00:05:23,630 time to the property owner. 144 00:05:23,630 --> 00:05:26,633 The only questions that will be 145 00:05:26,633 --> 00:05:27,100 available for whatever 146 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:27,534 questions here. 147 00:05:27,534 --> 00:05:27,834 >> thank you. 148 00:05:27,834 --> 00:05:29,834 Okay. 149 00:05:38,378 --> 00:05:38,812 Thank you so I don't know. 150 00:05:38,812 --> 00:05:40,812 I don't know. 151 00:05:41,849 --> 00:05:42,315 okay. 152 00:05:42,315 --> 00:05:42,616 >> got it. 153 00:05:42,616 --> 00:05:44,616 Yeah. 154 00:05:48,856 --> 00:05:49,322 Sir, would you like to speak? 155 00:05:49,322 --> 00:05:51,322 Good afternoon. 156 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:57,159 I have a complete some of the 157 00:05:57,831 --> 00:06:01,431 paper which is a report from 158 00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:08,340 the engineer and also 159 00:06:09,609 --> 00:06:12,609 engineering firm and also from 160 00:06:13,681 --> 00:06:15,681 the home inspector. 161 00:06:21,388 --> 00:06:22,560 And I have here and I any 162 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,560 question I can answer you? 163 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:26,494 I think I can receive a report. 164 00:06:26,494 --> 00:06:28,228 >> yeah, that's what I know. 165 00:06:28,228 --> 00:06:29,960 So would you mind passing the 166 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,296 documents so we can take a look 167 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:39,239 at them in the house now 168 00:06:39,239 --> 00:06:41,239 ? 169 00:06:43,544 --> 00:06:44,244 >> sir, do you have a copy 170 00:06:44,244 --> 00:06:46,947 of those reports or is this 171 00:06:46,947 --> 00:06:47,715 your only copy? 172 00:06:47,715 --> 00:06:50,184 >> I can hear you well. 173 00:06:50,184 --> 00:06:51,119 Is this the only copy you have 174 00:06:51,119 --> 00:06:54,188 or can we keep it for our 175 00:06:54,188 --> 00:06:57,788 records of the report that you 176 00:06:57,859 --> 00:06:58,192 just submitted? 177 00:06:58,192 --> 00:07:00,192 >> yes. 178 00:07:01,528 --> 00:07:01,929 The report that you just 179 00:07:01,929 --> 00:07:02,529 submitted. 180 00:07:02,529 --> 00:07:05,399 >> do you have a copy? 181 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:05,733 Can we keep this copy? 182 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:07,733 >> yeah. 183 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:14,140 Thank you 184 00:07:59,354 --> 00:08:00,288 . 185 00:08:00,288 --> 00:08:03,288 >> so, sir, it appears the 186 00:08:08,429 --> 00:08:09,164 engineering report states that 187 00:08:09,164 --> 00:08:11,133 the second there are in. 188 00:08:11,133 --> 00:08:11,966 Yeah, that makes two of us. 189 00:08:11,966 --> 00:08:13,802 You're welcome to come up here 190 00:08:13,802 --> 00:08:14,436 and you're. 191 00:08:14,436 --> 00:08:15,360 >> so it appears the 192 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,360 engineering report you 193 00:08:18,474 --> 00:08:19,740 submitted it speaks of the 194 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:21,740 property being rebuilt. 195 00:08:21,209 --> 00:08:22,143 A bowl. 196 00:08:22,143 --> 00:08:25,143 >> I guess the disconnect here 197 00:08:25,514 --> 00:08:26,281 is what is it that's preventing 198 00:08:26,281 --> 00:08:29,170 you from communicating with the 199 00:08:29,170 --> 00:08:29,718 building department about 200 00:08:29,718 --> 00:08:32,118 proceeding forward with this? 201 00:08:32,688 --> 00:08:33,222 are you preventing what what's 202 00:08:33,222 --> 00:08:33,955 preventing you from 203 00:08:33,955 --> 00:08:36,355 communicating with city staff 204 00:08:37,226 --> 00:08:37,993 and the building department to 205 00:08:37,993 --> 00:08:39,895 proceed forward with getting an 206 00:08:39,895 --> 00:08:42,295 appropriate permit for these 207 00:08:43,966 --> 00:08:45,966 repairs? 208 00:08:47,937 --> 00:08:48,271 You're asking me what in that 209 00:08:48,271 --> 00:08:50,271 report? 210 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,700 >> I'm asking why you're not 211 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:52,408 communicating with the building 212 00:08:52,408 --> 00:08:54,408 department. 213 00:08:58,781 --> 00:08:59,615 >> why did I apply for office 214 00:08:59,615 --> 00:09:02,150 permit for all electrical 215 00:09:03,786 --> 00:09:04,860 systems that they completed? 216 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:06,860 Okay. 217 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:13,663 And the best inspection the 218 00:09:13,663 --> 00:09:13,996 inspections delivered. 219 00:09:13,996 --> 00:09:15,996 >> okay. 220 00:09:16,999 --> 00:09:17,266 Do you believe you're done with 221 00:09:17,266 --> 00:09:17,966 the. 222 00:09:17,966 --> 00:09:21,566 No, I'm still working on it. 223 00:09:21,603 --> 00:09:22,772 Okay. 224 00:09:22,772 --> 00:09:24,474 I know I let you know I didn't 225 00:09:24,474 --> 00:09:27,343 go in for the minor things 226 00:09:27,343 --> 00:09:30,343 which are whichever it was. 227 00:09:35,184 --> 00:09:37,184 Questionable stuff I. 228 00:09:38,354 --> 00:09:42,554 >> I wasn't able to fix it and 229 00:09:44,994 --> 00:09:45,361 I spent all that to fix their 230 00:09:45,361 --> 00:09:45,661 property. 231 00:09:45,661 --> 00:09:47,661 Okay. 232 00:09:52,101 --> 00:09:53,360 So I did whatever. 233 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:53,904 >> so the photographs that this 234 00:09:53,904 --> 00:09:56,904 board is currently looking at 235 00:09:58,374 --> 00:09:58,641 are. 236 00:09:58,641 --> 00:09:58,908 Yes. 237 00:09:58,908 --> 00:10:00,908 Yes. 238 00:10:05,140 --> 00:10:05,481 This 239 00:10:05,481 --> 00:10:05,915 okay? 240 00:10:05,915 --> 00:10:06,215 Yeah, I will. 241 00:10:06,215 --> 00:10:08,215 Okay. 242 00:10:09,619 --> 00:10:10,353 So again there you go. 243 00:10:10,353 --> 00:10:10,754 We'll be able to hear each 244 00:10:10,754 --> 00:10:12,455 other now. 245 00:10:12,455 --> 00:10:13,322 So the photographs that we're 246 00:10:13,322 --> 00:10:16,592 looking at here are months old 247 00:10:16,592 --> 00:10:17,260 obviously what is the current 248 00:10:17,260 --> 00:10:17,961 condition of the property? 249 00:10:17,961 --> 00:10:20,960 What is your plan for next 250 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:20,630 steps? 251 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:22,630 >> all right. 252 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,668 There are some pictures of that 253 00:10:24,668 --> 00:10:25,335 property inside and outside 254 00:10:25,335 --> 00:10:28,335 compared to what you see. 255 00:10:28,738 --> 00:10:29,172 There's nothing that looks like 256 00:10:29,172 --> 00:10:31,172 this all gone. 257 00:10:32,943 --> 00:10:35,812 And what are the plans for the 258 00:10:35,812 --> 00:10:36,579 private property? 259 00:10:36,579 --> 00:10:36,880 What are your plans for next 260 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,880 steps? 261 00:10:41,485 --> 00:10:42,252 There's saying they need to 262 00:10:42,252 --> 00:10:45,122 have I wrote down that paper 263 00:10:45,122 --> 00:10:48,491 and that paper has a link I 264 00:10:48,491 --> 00:10:49,590 have to if I can get that paper 265 00:10:49,590 --> 00:10:51,295 I will look at it. 266 00:10:51,295 --> 00:10:52,262 Okay. 267 00:10:52,262 --> 00:10:55,732 So what it is right now I want 268 00:10:55,732 --> 00:10:59,202 you to paint inside and they 269 00:10:59,202 --> 00:11:02,840 one of the people that came and 270 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,306 those homeless people they did 271 00:11:03,306 --> 00:11:05,306 graffiti inside. 272 00:11:09,913 --> 00:11:10,547 And I'm trying to not try to I 273 00:11:10,547 --> 00:11:12,782 have to paint the whole 274 00:11:12,782 --> 00:11:14,782 building inside. 275 00:11:15,853 --> 00:11:19,453 And also I'm putting two new 276 00:11:20,230 --> 00:11:23,261 toilets and I have to do 277 00:11:23,261 --> 00:11:25,661 questionable to interior doors 278 00:11:26,830 --> 00:11:27,564 which I'm replacing it and also 279 00:11:27,564 --> 00:11:29,964 the whatever maintenance needs 280 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,600 to be done inside outside. 281 00:11:33,671 --> 00:11:34,638 So I'm on it. 282 00:11:34,638 --> 00:11:37,774 And do you currently have a 283 00:11:37,774 --> 00:11:38,509 contractor that's working on 284 00:11:38,509 --> 00:11:41,110 getting you prices or do you 285 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:41,244 intend to do this work yourself 286 00:11:41,244 --> 00:11:43,244 ? 287 00:11:45,183 --> 00:11:49,383 That I for the for drywall I 288 00:11:49,487 --> 00:11:52,487 have permit to do myself. 289 00:11:54,250 --> 00:11:57,270 I'm a handyman also I did a 290 00:11:57,270 --> 00:12:00,970 dental work in my past so I 291 00:12:00,970 --> 00:12:04,297 know most of the this work so 292 00:12:06,204 --> 00:12:09,804 it's not a big thing study. 293 00:12:10,507 --> 00:12:14,707 I have a question on your roof. 294 00:12:14,812 --> 00:12:15,246 I don't see a roof inspection 295 00:12:15,246 --> 00:12:16,470 and details. 296 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:18,816 >> I'm still looking here and 297 00:12:18,816 --> 00:12:21,952 it was leaking a few spots 298 00:12:21,952 --> 00:12:24,352 which I fixed it. 299 00:12:26,570 --> 00:12:27,250 Okay because I still see mildew 300 00:12:27,250 --> 00:12:27,625 a stasis maybe you in the walls 301 00:12:27,625 --> 00:12:29,625 in there. 302 00:12:35,433 --> 00:12:36,167 So I guess you pass the roof 303 00:12:36,167 --> 00:12:39,167 inspection so you're ready for 304 00:12:39,437 --> 00:12:40,338 paint. 305 00:12:40,338 --> 00:12:44,538 And so what your next step is 306 00:12:44,609 --> 00:12:46,845 going to be paint or not ready 307 00:12:46,845 --> 00:12:47,645 for anything. 308 00:12:47,645 --> 00:12:48,346 The interior walls you've done 309 00:12:48,346 --> 00:12:51,346 that you've done the drywall 310 00:12:51,782 --> 00:12:52,417 repair. 311 00:12:52,417 --> 00:12:55,417 I did not do yet. 312 00:12:56,220 --> 00:12:56,788 I'm still collecting all the 313 00:12:56,788 --> 00:12:57,540 still doing terrible. 314 00:12:57,540 --> 00:12:57,322 Yes. 315 00:12:57,322 --> 00:12:57,589 Yes. 316 00:12:57,589 --> 00:12:57,890 Yes. 317 00:12:57,890 --> 00:12:58,189 Yeah. 318 00:12:58,189 --> 00:12:59,357 Okay. 319 00:12:59,357 --> 00:13:02,660 So what's your plan of action 320 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:03,128 and what's your timeframe for 321 00:13:03,128 --> 00:13:05,128 fixing the home? 322 00:13:06,931 --> 00:13:10,531 I'm doing as quick as possible 323 00:13:10,835 --> 00:13:11,335 because I have I'm doing I have 324 00:13:11,335 --> 00:13:13,335 another project. 325 00:13:14,406 --> 00:13:15,730 You have another project? 326 00:13:15,730 --> 00:13:15,373 No, I mean not here. 327 00:13:15,373 --> 00:13:17,373 Okay. 328 00:13:18,877 --> 00:13:19,744 I'm busy in a different things 329 00:13:19,744 --> 00:13:22,313 are there so as as much as I. 330 00:13:22,313 --> 00:13:22,781 I have first priority as soon 331 00:13:22,781 --> 00:13:23,810 aseave time. 332 00:13:23,810 --> 00:13:25,810 Right. 333 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:29,350 Go ahead and do the job. 334 00:13:30,221 --> 00:13:30,756 Okay. 335 00:13:30,756 --> 00:13:32,624 One more question. 336 00:13:32,624 --> 00:13:32,858 Yeah, I have a question for you 337 00:13:32,858 --> 00:13:33,625 . 338 00:13:33,625 --> 00:13:34,325 There were questions in regards 339 00:13:34,325 --> 00:13:36,661 to the aluminum structure the 340 00:13:36,661 --> 00:13:37,395 aluminum addition that was 341 00:13:37,395 --> 00:13:37,695 built on to the back of the 342 00:13:37,695 --> 00:13:39,695 house. 343 00:13:39,798 --> 00:13:40,499 You know what I'm talking about 344 00:13:40,499 --> 00:13:43,499 that aluminum room that was 345 00:13:43,935 --> 00:13:44,569 built there were questions in 346 00:13:44,569 --> 00:13:46,969 regards to the aluminum 347 00:13:47,506 --> 00:13:51,106 structure that was added to the 348 00:13:51,977 --> 00:13:56,177 back of the house has one other 349 00:13:56,949 --> 00:13:59,418 thing was they inspected in one 350 00:13:59,418 --> 00:14:02,418 speak and art that was 351 00:14:02,488 --> 00:14:06,880 inspected it when I apply like 352 00:14:06,458 --> 00:14:09,458 1213 years ago there was the 353 00:14:10,296 --> 00:14:10,596 permitted and engineered. 354 00:14:10,596 --> 00:14:12,596 Okay. 355 00:14:13,599 --> 00:14:14,333 So so I'm understanding that is 356 00:14:14,333 --> 00:14:16,733 not engineered for habitation. 357 00:14:17,502 --> 00:14:18,203 It is engineered green room but 358 00:14:18,203 --> 00:14:21,540 not for a part of your house 359 00:14:21,540 --> 00:14:22,208 for an interior living space. 360 00:14:22,208 --> 00:14:22,574 Was that addressed by the 361 00:14:22,574 --> 00:14:24,574 engineer? 362 00:14:25,878 --> 00:14:26,245 Yeah, that he checked it out. 363 00:14:26,245 --> 00:14:27,746 Whatever. 364 00:14:27,746 --> 00:14:30,746 He checked the whole building. 365 00:14:31,818 --> 00:14:32,551 There was two engineers. 366 00:14:32,551 --> 00:14:35,254 And are your intentions with 367 00:14:35,254 --> 00:14:35,954 that room to try to make it 368 00:14:35,954 --> 00:14:39,554 living space again or are you 369 00:14:40,393 --> 00:14:41,940 trying to tear that down from 370 00:14:41,940 --> 00:14:41,627 this green room on the back? 371 00:14:41,627 --> 00:14:43,627 The aluminum room? 372 00:14:44,163 --> 00:14:46,563 No, no, no, no. 373 00:14:48,133 --> 00:14:48,868 Not on the porch on the back on 374 00:14:48,868 --> 00:14:49,168 that there's going to be porch 375 00:14:49,168 --> 00:14:49,902 space. 376 00:14:49,902 --> 00:14:53,502 Yeah, porch both to the front 377 00:14:53,939 --> 00:14:55,939 and back. 378 00:14:58,510 --> 00:15:02,710 And so it was also using the 379 00:15:05,180 --> 00:15:08,180 system for the building is 380 00:15:08,688 --> 00:15:10,688 concerned. 381 00:15:12,291 --> 00:15:12,926 I mean we have an engineer this 382 00:15:12,926 --> 00:15:14,926 is structural adjustment. 383 00:15:14,928 --> 00:15:16,928 Okay? 384 00:15:22,235 --> 00:15:22,535 Based on structural. 385 00:15:22,535 --> 00:15:24,535 Okay. 386 00:15:29,776 --> 00:15:33,376 So so just for clarity, was 387 00:15:33,846 --> 00:15:36,846 there a large aluminum addition 388 00:15:37,617 --> 00:15:42,417 to the back of the home like a 389 00:15:43,723 --> 00:15:43,991 metal frame room that supports 390 00:15:43,991 --> 00:15:44,557 it? 391 00:15:44,557 --> 00:15:46,957 I didn't have any. 392 00:15:47,293 --> 00:15:47,828 Okay. 393 00:15:47,828 --> 00:15:49,828 No structure. 394 00:15:51,197 --> 00:15:53,197 All right. 395 00:15:57,271 --> 00:15:59,671 Just just a short. 396 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:05,110 Okay 397 00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:07,110 . 398 00:16:08,682 --> 00:16:09,650 Is this the owner of the home? 399 00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:12,650 >> is that picture the rear 400 00:16:13,186 --> 00:16:13,686 of the home? 401 00:16:13,686 --> 00:16:13,987 yeah, right now? 402 00:16:13,987 --> 00:16:14,288 Yeah. 403 00:16:14,288 --> 00:16:16,288 Okay. 404 00:16:19,893 --> 00:16:23,730 Yeah, I did a lot of work. 405 00:16:23,730 --> 00:16:24,198 Okay. 406 00:16:24,198 --> 00:16:26,198 That's awesome. 407 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:28,535 Okay, here's all your 408 00:16:28,535 --> 00:16:28,868 paperwork, sir. 409 00:16:28,868 --> 00:16:30,868 >> yeah. 410 00:16:31,571 --> 00:16:32,600 Forec record. 411 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:32,772 >> oh, yeah. 412 00:16:32,772 --> 00:16:33,273 So again, you're going to keep 413 00:16:33,273 --> 00:16:35,141 it for the record. 414 00:16:35,141 --> 00:16:35,643 We can keep this. 415 00:16:35,643 --> 00:16:35,909 You have copies? 416 00:16:35,909 --> 00:16:36,476 Yes. 417 00:16:36,476 --> 00:16:37,678 Yes, I have another. 418 00:16:37,678 --> 00:16:38,412 They give me threeieopies. 419 00:16:38,412 --> 00:16:38,712 >> you have handwritten notes 420 00:16:38,712 --> 00:16:40,712 here. 421 00:16:41,848 --> 00:16:42,582 So you have copies of it. 422 00:16:42,582 --> 00:16:42,883 You can give me that. 423 00:16:42,883 --> 00:16:44,883 Okay. 424 00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:45,886 So I know it does invoicing. 425 00:16:45,886 --> 00:16:46,654 Okay. 426 00:16:46,654 --> 00:16:47,870 I'm going to go ahead and hand 427 00:16:47,870 --> 00:16:47,854 this to you. 428 00:16:47,854 --> 00:16:48,456 You can go down and speak with 429 00:16:48,456 --> 00:16:50,456 the attorney directly. 430 00:16:54,195 --> 00:16:56,595 There you go, sir 431 00:17:05,390 --> 00:17:05,439 . 432 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:07,439 Thank you. 433 00:17:08,709 --> 00:17:10,709 Okay. 434 00:17:12,546 --> 00:17:14,946 You have it, sir. 435 00:17:15,516 --> 00:17:17,516 Right here. 436 00:17:22,156 --> 00:17:24,156 You got that 437 00:17:27,428 --> 00:17:29,828 MISS Heidi as well 438 00:17:30,765 --> 00:17:31,432 as walker of your speaking. 439 00:17:31,432 --> 00:17:31,832 Can you speak on the 440 00:17:31,832 --> 00:17:32,366 microphone? 441 00:17:32,366 --> 00:17:33,101 Yeah, I apologize. 442 00:17:33,101 --> 00:17:33,868 Yeah, we're not capturing what 443 00:17:33,868 --> 00:17:34,369 you're saying. 444 00:17:34,369 --> 00:17:35,170 Yeah, I'm sorry. 445 00:17:35,170 --> 00:17:35,903 No, I was just saying that I 446 00:17:35,903 --> 00:17:38,139 think we should have some 447 00:17:38,139 --> 00:17:38,873 discussion. 448 00:17:38,873 --> 00:17:39,541 It does look like he's 449 00:17:39,541 --> 00:17:41,941 progressing and making an 450 00:17:42,777 --> 00:17:43,744 effort. 451 00:17:43,744 --> 00:17:46,681 so I would like to make a 452 00:17:46,681 --> 00:17:47,548 motion to give him an extended 453 00:17:47,548 --> 00:17:50,218 30 days and to see if he's 454 00:17:50,218 --> 00:17:52,218 still progressing. 455 00:17:53,888 --> 00:17:56,888 Can I second that motion? 456 00:17:56,958 --> 00:17:57,725 >> can I clarify when you're 457 00:17:57,725 --> 00:17:58,659 giving him an extended 30 days, 458 00:17:58,659 --> 00:18:01,128 do you want him to still comply 459 00:18:01,128 --> 00:18:04,128 with all the previous requests 460 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:05,200 that were in the original order 461 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,200 dated JULY 23rd, 2026? 462 00:18:08,804 --> 00:18:10,804 Yes. 463 00:18:12,941 --> 00:18:16,111 The list of five things yes. 464 00:18:16,111 --> 00:18:16,377 We have a second chance. 465 00:18:16,377 --> 00:18:18,377 Yes. 466 00:18:20,916 --> 00:18:21,416 Very very good. 467 00:18:21,416 --> 00:18:21,683 Mary five second. 468 00:18:21,683 --> 00:18:23,683 Yes. 469 00:18:25,153 --> 00:18:25,420 Mary if I could. 470 00:18:25,420 --> 00:18:25,921 Yes. 471 00:18:25,921 --> 00:18:27,288 Randolph mcmahon. 472 00:18:27,288 --> 00:18:27,555 Yeah. 473 00:18:27,555 --> 00:18:28,890 Yes. 474 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:30,890 Frank dalton yes. 475 00:18:31,293 --> 00:18:31,960 Bob warner yes. 476 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,360 Heidi hales walker yes. 477 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,500 The motion carries 478 00:18:41,803 --> 00:18:42,771 . 479 00:18:42,771 --> 00:18:45,540 The next case is a request to 480 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:45,841 appear seven a 67 cottingham 481 00:18:45,841 --> 00:18:47,275 drive. 482 00:18:47,275 --> 00:18:50,275 Officer barbara both will act 483 00:18:52,180 --> 00:18:55,180 presenting this case as belle 484 00:18:58,420 --> 00:18:59,187 de dash 200029-2026 property 485 00:18:59,187 --> 00:19:01,587 location at 67 cunningham drive 486 00:19:02,691 --> 00:19:06,261 this is a variance case the 487 00:19:06,261 --> 00:19:06,962 property owner donny and stacy 488 00:19:06,962 --> 00:19:09,362 hunt 67 cunningham drive has 489 00:19:10,466 --> 00:19:11,199 requested to appear before the 490 00:19:11,199 --> 00:19:11,900 building trade board to request 491 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:14,302 a variance to the existing 492 00:19:14,302 --> 00:19:16,839 finished floor for the new and 493 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:17,339 proposed additions to 67 494 00:19:17,339 --> 00:19:19,339 cunningham drive. 495 00:19:20,809 --> 00:19:23,809 They would like the floor 496 00:19:27,116 --> 00:19:30,116 elevation to be remain at 8.26 497 00:19:30,586 --> 00:19:33,322 and eight feet two inches 26in 498 00:19:33,322 --> 00:19:33,622 as originally constructed in 499 00:19:33,622 --> 00:19:35,622 2012. 500 00:19:37,626 --> 00:19:38,193 In lieu of the new ffa for new 501 00:19:38,193 --> 00:19:40,193 construction that was 502 00:19:40,496 --> 00:19:42,896 implemented during the 2020 new 503 00:19:44,670 --> 00:19:47,336 f b c r building code cycle 504 00:19:47,336 --> 00:19:48,400 requires f e to be two foot 505 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:48,370 zero inches above the flood 506 00:19:48,370 --> 00:19:50,370 elevation. 507 00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:54,273 So they're asking for a 508 00:19:55,544 --> 00:19:56,212 variance to leave it at their 509 00:19:56,212 --> 00:19:58,612 current elevation and stead 510 00:19:58,915 --> 00:20:01,915 of meeting the new flood 511 00:20:02,985 --> 00:20:03,853 elevation. 512 00:20:03,853 --> 00:20:06,389 This is like the question I 513 00:20:06,389 --> 00:20:09,858 have is I well I guess we'll 514 00:20:09,858 --> 00:20:10,293 just let steve do his thing 515 00:20:10,293 --> 00:20:10,626 first or no. 516 00:20:10,626 --> 00:20:12,626 >> yes. 517 00:20:13,296 --> 00:20:13,763 This is not my expertise. 518 00:20:13,763 --> 00:20:15,763 What perfect. 519 00:20:20,169 --> 00:20:20,636 Thank you 520 00:20:20,636 --> 00:20:22,636 . 521 00:20:25,108 --> 00:20:25,875 Good evening again board steve 522 00:20:25,875 --> 00:20:26,309 woodworth for the city of new 523 00:20:26,309 --> 00:20:27,770 smyrna beach. 524 00:20:27,770 --> 00:20:28,978 I am in building and official 525 00:20:28,978 --> 00:20:29,746 and for the record I am state 526 00:20:29,746 --> 00:20:32,146 license building official plans 527 00:20:32,682 --> 00:20:33,316 examiner building inspector and 528 00:20:33,316 --> 00:20:35,716 an icc certified property 529 00:20:36,552 --> 00:20:37,286 maintenance inspector. 530 00:20:37,286 --> 00:20:37,620 You got a question, ma'am? 531 00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:39,620 I did. 532 00:20:43,827 --> 00:20:44,594 I guess my my question is has 533 00:20:44,594 --> 00:20:48,970 it ever flooded before in the 534 00:20:48,970 --> 00:20:48,731 past I can't speak to whatever 535 00:20:48,731 --> 00:20:51,731 it's flooded in the past. 536 00:20:51,968 --> 00:20:54,368 It hasn't flooded since 2012 537 00:20:55,238 --> 00:20:56,106 when it was constructed. 538 00:20:56,106 --> 00:20:56,807 I'd like to provide the board a 539 00:20:56,807 --> 00:20:58,807 little background information 540 00:20:58,976 --> 00:21:02,576 of why we're hearing this and 541 00:21:02,746 --> 00:21:03,513 how we got here. 542 00:21:03,513 --> 00:21:07,830 New smyrna beach is part of a 543 00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:09,483 community rating system where 544 00:21:11,388 --> 00:21:12,121 we get a a grade, if you will, 545 00:21:12,121 --> 00:21:14,758 on how we enforce the flood 546 00:21:14,758 --> 00:21:17,758 provisions of our code and 547 00:21:19,129 --> 00:21:22,129 whether they are stricter than 548 00:21:22,299 --> 00:21:23,660 the minimum standards and new 549 00:21:23,660 --> 00:21:26,660 smyrna beach decided in 2020 to 550 00:21:26,503 --> 00:21:27,370 make our code stricter than the 551 00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:27,805 minimum standards. 552 00:21:27,805 --> 00:21:30,774 >> so we got a higher grade in 553 00:21:30,774 --> 00:21:31,441 our community rating. 554 00:21:31,441 --> 00:21:31,975 So that's what we're here 555 00:21:31,975 --> 00:21:33,975 discussing tonight. 556 00:21:34,511 --> 00:21:35,212 It is not that this house was 557 00:21:35,212 --> 00:21:37,612 constructed below base flood 558 00:21:38,615 --> 00:21:39,350 elevation it when it was 559 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:42,350 constructed it met all the 560 00:21:42,419 --> 00:21:43,860 applicable laws and our 561 00:21:43,860 --> 00:21:45,486 required freeboard since the 562 00:21:46,323 --> 00:21:46,924 time it was constructed we have 563 00:21:46,924 --> 00:21:48,924 increased our level 564 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,928 of compliance. 565 00:21:50,928 --> 00:21:52,630 We've elevated our minimum 566 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:54,630 elevation by 12in. 567 00:21:57,340 --> 00:21:57,768 So this house when it is 568 00:21:57,768 --> 00:22:00,437 improved it would meet the 569 00:22:00,437 --> 00:22:02,837 minimum requirements or it 570 00:22:03,908 --> 00:22:04,675 would be a level of substantial 571 00:22:04,675 --> 00:22:07,750 improvement which defaults into 572 00:22:08,179 --> 00:22:08,913 meeting the new flood elevation 573 00:22:08,913 --> 00:22:09,246 which is why we're here this 574 00:22:09,246 --> 00:22:11,246 evening. 575 00:22:11,916 --> 00:22:14,916 >> the house is 14 years old. 576 00:22:15,619 --> 00:22:16,287 It has not flooded however it 577 00:22:16,287 --> 00:22:19,287 would not meet our current 578 00:22:20,324 --> 00:22:22,324 minimum flood elevation. 579 00:22:23,794 --> 00:22:24,462 >> a staff report from the city 580 00:22:24,462 --> 00:22:26,462 engineering department was 581 00:22:28,199 --> 00:22:28,966 submitted with your agenda. 582 00:22:28,966 --> 00:22:31,966 It did not carry engineering 583 00:22:32,202 --> 00:22:33,700 department approval. 584 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:35,139 >> they've worked very hard to 585 00:22:35,139 --> 00:22:39,110 get the c r d c r s words that 586 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:39,777 and they are afraid that a 587 00:22:39,777 --> 00:22:42,177 deviation would be noticed 588 00:22:43,214 --> 00:22:43,681 under audit and we would get 589 00:22:43,681 --> 00:22:45,681 docked for that. 590 00:22:47,170 --> 00:22:47,785 With that being said, it is up 591 00:22:47,785 --> 00:22:50,754 to you if you would like to 592 00:22:50,754 --> 00:22:51,589 allow this allowance in the 593 00:22:51,589 --> 00:22:54,425 free board element not the base 594 00:22:54,425 --> 00:22:55,593 flood element. 595 00:22:55,593 --> 00:22:58,663 >> how many square feet is the 596 00:22:58,663 --> 00:22:59,530 addition do you know? 597 00:22:59,530 --> 00:23:00,310 I do not remember off the top 598 00:23:00,310 --> 00:23:02,431 of my head sir. 599 00:23:02,567 --> 00:23:03,301 I'm sure that the property 600 00:23:03,301 --> 00:23:03,968 owner has that information and 601 00:23:03,968 --> 00:23:04,335 could provide it in this 602 00:23:04,335 --> 00:23:06,170 testimony. 603 00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:08,170 >> understood. 604 00:23:11,420 --> 00:23:11,810 >> any other questions? 605 00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:12,210 >> not at this time. 606 00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:14,210 All right. 607 00:23:14,979 --> 00:23:15,780 For now for you, steve. 608 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:16,114 >> I will be available if 609 00:23:16,114 --> 00:23:16,515 needed. 610 00:23:16,515 --> 00:23:16,915 Thank you. 611 00:23:16,915 --> 00:23:17,315 Thank you. 612 00:23:17,315 --> 00:23:19,315 Thank you. 613 00:23:21,653 --> 00:23:25,253 Is the owner here with you? 614 00:23:25,290 --> 00:23:25,790 >> I'm sorry. 615 00:23:25,790 --> 00:23:26,691 >> good evening. 616 00:23:26,691 --> 00:23:30,162 Thank you for hearing me and 617 00:23:30,162 --> 00:23:30,528 our thoughts about this 618 00:23:30,528 --> 00:23:32,528 variance. 619 00:23:33,632 --> 00:23:34,466 My name is donnie hunt. 620 00:23:34,466 --> 00:23:34,799 >> we moved here permanently in 621 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:36,799 AUGUST. 622 00:23:37,269 --> 00:23:38,360 We bought this home about two 623 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:38,336 years ago on the search for a 624 00:23:38,336 --> 00:23:40,336 home. 625 00:23:41,773 --> 00:23:42,730 We looked at a lot of different 626 00:23:42,730 --> 00:23:42,841 homes. 627 00:23:42,841 --> 00:23:44,943 We look at other homes in this 628 00:23:44,943 --> 00:23:45,444 neighborhood that most of the 629 00:23:45,444 --> 00:23:47,444 homes are built. 630 00:23:47,846 --> 00:23:48,714 >> I think in the 50s and 60s 631 00:23:48,714 --> 00:23:52,184 as he stated, the home was 632 00:23:52,184 --> 00:23:54,584 rebuilt 12 years 13 years ago 633 00:23:55,554 --> 00:23:55,887 we did not think we had any 634 00:23:55,887 --> 00:23:57,887 issues. 635 00:23:59,657 --> 00:24:00,625 We had the original survey. 636 00:24:00,625 --> 00:24:02,894 I didn't see it up there and my 637 00:24:02,894 --> 00:24:03,962 architect is here also and I 638 00:24:03,962 --> 00:24:05,730 think he has a copy but it does 639 00:24:05,730 --> 00:24:09,201 show the 100 year flood line in 640 00:24:09,201 --> 00:24:11,370 the front of the house at sachs 641 00:24:11,370 --> 00:24:14,970 foot which is fema's line with 642 00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:19,770 that being said, we felt we 643 00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:21,770 were meeting everything. 644 00:24:23,348 --> 00:24:26,818 We were unaware of the extra 645 00:24:26,818 --> 00:24:30,589 12in I least I was and so we 646 00:24:30,589 --> 00:24:31,257 bought this house thinking 647 00:24:31,257 --> 00:24:31,857 we've got a house that's 648 00:24:31,857 --> 00:24:32,591 already been rebuilt. 649 00:24:32,591 --> 00:24:34,360 >> it's it's way higher than 650 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:35,327 the neighbors. 651 00:24:35,327 --> 00:24:37,596 i have a picture and I can give 652 00:24:37,596 --> 00:24:38,330 this to you guys to pass around 653 00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:40,730 extremely higher than the 654 00:24:41,167 --> 00:24:41,934 neighbors house. 655 00:24:41,934 --> 00:24:44,334 >> this portion that they're 656 00:24:45,904 --> 00:24:46,672 talking about is only a back 657 00:24:46,672 --> 00:24:49,608 bedroom which is going to turn 658 00:24:49,608 --> 00:24:53,790 into a dining area, a bathroom 659 00:24:53,790 --> 00:24:53,412 and part of another current 660 00:24:53,412 --> 00:24:54,113 bedroom. 661 00:24:54,113 --> 00:24:57,113 >> we are not changing that 662 00:24:57,382 --> 00:24:58,150 part of the slab at all. 663 00:24:58,150 --> 00:24:58,884 What we're doing is taken off 664 00:24:58,884 --> 00:25:01,884 the garage on the front 665 00:25:01,888 --> 00:25:02,655 enlarging it and going to store 666 00:25:02,655 --> 00:25:05,791 two stories with it with hopes 667 00:25:05,791 --> 00:25:06,593 that we have three kids that 668 00:25:06,593 --> 00:25:10,793 there will be room for them to 669 00:25:12,765 --> 00:25:13,298 come home to the lines that 670 00:25:13,298 --> 00:25:15,298 they talked about. 671 00:25:19,305 --> 00:25:19,906 Fema's line we we are above by 672 00:25:19,906 --> 00:25:22,306 one foot this state. 673 00:25:23,409 --> 00:25:26,409 We are above the county. 674 00:25:26,579 --> 00:25:26,879 We are above because we're at 675 00:25:26,879 --> 00:25:28,879 8.26. 676 00:25:29,449 --> 00:25:33,490 It's just the extra 12in we've 677 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:36,860 talked about the house flooding 678 00:25:36,355 --> 00:25:38,355 since 2016. 679 00:25:40,126 --> 00:25:40,526 There's been one, two, three, 680 00:25:40,526 --> 00:25:41,261 four, five. 681 00:25:41,261 --> 00:25:44,261 There's been sachs storms cat 682 00:25:44,296 --> 00:25:44,831 two kapoor, cat five, carrefour 683 00:25:44,831 --> 00:25:45,532 cat one got three. 684 00:25:45,532 --> 00:25:47,700 The home has never flooded. 685 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:50,937 I asked that when we purchased 686 00:25:50,937 --> 00:25:51,604 that small portion that falls 7 687 00:25:51,604 --> 00:25:52,380 or 8in short is the big 688 00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:54,380 question here. 689 00:25:54,807 --> 00:25:58,378 I was also told by city staff 690 00:25:58,378 --> 00:26:01,978 that if my dollar amount wasn't 691 00:26:02,148 --> 00:26:02,816 above 50% they wouldn't even 692 00:26:02,816 --> 00:26:05,216 care about this elevation. 693 00:26:08,688 --> 00:26:09,323 So I'm just here saying this 694 00:26:09,323 --> 00:26:10,289 house is 13 years old. 695 00:26:10,289 --> 00:26:13,159 I really don't want to have to 696 00:26:13,159 --> 00:26:13,994 tear it down and start over. 697 00:26:13,994 --> 00:26:17,164 I've already moved out of the 698 00:26:17,164 --> 00:26:20,534 house because I have a pool 699 00:26:20,534 --> 00:26:21,368 contractor who's already got 700 00:26:21,368 --> 00:26:24,671 his permit to start the job. 701 00:26:24,671 --> 00:26:25,205 he was actually going to start 702 00:26:25,205 --> 00:26:26,600 and I halted him. 703 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,842 We're not in the home anymore. 704 00:26:28,842 --> 00:26:30,377 We're out in another home and 705 00:26:30,377 --> 00:26:33,977 time and just going to delay 706 00:26:34,848 --> 00:26:35,548 and delay and delay just trying 707 00:26:35,548 --> 00:26:38,585 to make this our final home. 708 00:26:38,585 --> 00:26:39,352 And I don't know if there's 709 00:26:39,352 --> 00:26:41,688 anything else that my architect 710 00:26:41,688 --> 00:26:41,921 mark can add if you don't mind 711 00:26:41,921 --> 00:26:43,921 . 712 00:26:45,125 --> 00:26:47,125 Sure. 713 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:52,230 So that's fine. 714 00:26:57,738 --> 00:26:58,710 So so good evening. 715 00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:58,605 >> hi. 716 00:26:58,605 --> 00:26:59,306 I'm martin israel. 717 00:26:59,306 --> 00:27:00,574 I'm the architect of can you 718 00:27:00,574 --> 00:27:01,341 speak into the microphone? 719 00:27:01,341 --> 00:27:03,677 I am mark nasrallah, the 720 00:27:03,677 --> 00:27:05,677 architect of record. 721 00:27:06,947 --> 00:27:07,915 I've been working in new smyrna 722 00:27:07,915 --> 00:27:10,851 since the 80s so I am aware 723 00:27:10,851 --> 00:27:14,221 of all of the building codes 724 00:27:14,221 --> 00:27:14,855 and local codes ordinances and 725 00:27:14,855 --> 00:27:17,255 I hate making mistakes. 726 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,959 When we went into this project 727 00:27:22,329 --> 00:27:25,566 we got our survey with all 728 00:27:25,566 --> 00:27:26,400 of our bfi's everything we done 729 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,000 added the fema lines which is 730 00:27:30,204 --> 00:27:30,938 the very first thing I told 731 00:27:30,938 --> 00:27:32,707 lonnie we have to do because 732 00:27:32,707 --> 00:27:33,400 we've done a lot of work on the 733 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,400 water. 734 00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:36,544 We understand there is a two 735 00:27:36,544 --> 00:27:39,379 foot minimum about the fee 736 00:27:39,379 --> 00:27:40,114 we're required for. 737 00:27:40,114 --> 00:27:43,114 Our survey right there in 738 00:27:43,985 --> 00:27:46,320 yellow says flood plain 6.0 739 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320 we're at 8.23. 740 00:27:49,323 --> 00:27:50,230 I said we're good to go here is 741 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:53,230 not the first seven elevation 742 00:27:54,395 --> 00:27:57,432 on this and when it says that's 743 00:27:57,432 --> 00:27:58,165 my fema line we just assumed 744 00:27:58,165 --> 00:28:01,165 terrible word that we're good 745 00:28:01,536 --> 00:28:02,203 to go it wasn't until 746 00:28:02,203 --> 00:28:04,603 engineering pointed out and 747 00:28:04,739 --> 00:28:05,472 even our we have a civil 748 00:28:05,472 --> 00:28:08,472 engineer david blunt he's never 749 00:28:08,843 --> 00:28:09,710 even seen it this back left 750 00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:12,647 corner of the house has a seven 751 00:28:12,647 --> 00:28:13,414 touch unit and we don't know 752 00:28:13,414 --> 00:28:16,785 why we can't explain it because 753 00:28:16,785 --> 00:28:17,552 the elevation back there is 754 00:28:17,552 --> 00:28:20,388 five and four and everything is 755 00:28:20,388 --> 00:28:21,188 falling off and why we have a 756 00:28:21,188 --> 00:28:23,925 seven at that back corner we're 757 00:28:23,925 --> 00:28:24,592 like you know we we don't 758 00:28:24,592 --> 00:28:26,992 understand but it's there. 759 00:28:27,528 --> 00:28:28,395 It's on the fema map. 760 00:28:28,395 --> 00:28:30,531 I did not check the fema map 761 00:28:30,531 --> 00:28:31,299 because my surveyor said we're 762 00:28:31,299 --> 00:28:34,369 at sachs so we that's why we 763 00:28:34,369 --> 00:28:36,769 have a finished product. 764 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:38,472 I'm not one to do and ask for 765 00:28:38,472 --> 00:28:39,240 forgiveness. 766 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,100 We had everything we thought we 767 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:42,944 had everything we thought 768 00:28:42,944 --> 00:28:46,544 checked out done is done as 769 00:28:48,349 --> 00:28:48,650 mentioned we're nine inches 770 00:28:48,650 --> 00:28:50,650 short. 771 00:28:51,486 --> 00:28:52,187 The majority of the 772 00:28:52,187 --> 00:28:54,587 construction proposed is the 773 00:28:56,491 --> 00:28:57,258 garage and above the garage the 774 00:28:57,258 --> 00:29:00,258 main house pretty much remains. 775 00:29:00,329 --> 00:29:01,620 We have because I told him 776 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:04,620 don't touch the existing house 777 00:29:05,267 --> 00:29:05,601 it's good let's build a by the 778 00:29:05,601 --> 00:29:07,350 garage. 779 00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:10,635 So that was actually 90% of our 780 00:29:11,172 --> 00:29:14,772 work is new garage for above 781 00:29:16,645 --> 00:29:17,312 which is about 2000ft so and 782 00:29:17,312 --> 00:29:20,312 also when we're done we're 783 00:29:21,283 --> 00:29:22,217 going to have all new windows 784 00:29:22,217 --> 00:29:25,820 to meet all of the new when 785 00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:26,421 zone loads we're going to have 786 00:29:26,421 --> 00:29:27,122 all of our all the new 787 00:29:27,122 --> 00:29:29,224 structure will meet the new 788 00:29:29,224 --> 00:29:32,824 current code so the house will 789 00:29:33,428 --> 00:29:33,995 be pretty close to meeting all 790 00:29:33,995 --> 00:29:34,797 of the current levels. 791 00:29:34,797 --> 00:29:37,165 And then as I've mentioned to 792 00:29:37,165 --> 00:29:40,765 donny we meet the federal code, 793 00:29:40,937 --> 00:29:41,637 we meet the state code, we meet 794 00:29:41,637 --> 00:29:41,937 the county code for minimum 795 00:29:41,937 --> 00:29:43,937 floor. 796 00:29:44,773 --> 00:29:45,474 It's only new smyrna that we 797 00:29:45,474 --> 00:29:48,474 are denied which is below. 798 00:29:48,477 --> 00:29:49,311 So that is what our request is 799 00:29:49,311 --> 00:29:51,780 for the variance so we 800 00:29:51,780 --> 00:29:55,117 have any questions not at this 801 00:29:55,117 --> 00:29:55,417 time, no. 802 00:29:55,417 --> 00:29:55,817 Good. 803 00:29:55,817 --> 00:29:57,817 Thank you. 804 00:30:02,191 --> 00:30:03,159 Thank you. 805 00:30:03,159 --> 00:30:06,862 I feel since the house is above 806 00:30:06,862 --> 00:30:07,463 the road that there probably 807 00:30:07,463 --> 00:30:09,863 won't be any flooding 808 00:30:10,199 --> 00:30:11,167 situations but would there be 809 00:30:11,167 --> 00:30:14,837 any problem if he goes to sell 810 00:30:14,837 --> 00:30:15,338 and doesn't have those 811 00:30:15,338 --> 00:30:17,338 requirements done? 812 00:30:17,406 --> 00:30:17,740 That's no problem in the 813 00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:19,740 future. 814 00:30:24,613 --> 00:30:28,317 I agree that is do we have a 815 00:30:28,317 --> 00:30:32,188 motion of do a motion that he 816 00:30:32,188 --> 00:30:32,955 does not have to improve the 817 00:30:32,955 --> 00:30:35,925 property to or he doesn't have 818 00:30:35,925 --> 00:30:36,759 to do the elevation in order to 819 00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,795 get a permit to complete the 820 00:30:39,795 --> 00:30:40,329 house?? 821 00:30:40,329 --> 00:30:42,329 That's correct. 822 00:30:45,902 --> 00:30:46,135 I second that for the variance 823 00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:48,135 . 824 00:30:51,507 --> 00:30:52,740 Mary baker yes. 825 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:52,508 Randolph opinion yes. 826 00:30:52,508 --> 00:30:53,810 Franklin yes. 827 00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:54,377 Bob warner yes. 828 00:30:54,377 --> 00:30:56,377 Idaho's walker yes. 829 00:30:58,314 --> 00:30:58,714 The motion carries. 830 00:30:58,714 --> 00:30:59,583 Thank you. 831 00:30:59,583 --> 00:31:03,183 If you'd like to collect your 832 00:31:05,388 --> 00:31:07,388 photographs, good luck. 833 00:31:11,628 --> 00:31:13,628 Enjoy 834 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,300 . 835 00:31:23,406 --> 00:31:27,577 I was just moving on to the is 836 00:31:27,577 --> 00:31:28,111 there anything else on this and 837 00:31:28,111 --> 00:31:28,946 solve the business. 838 00:31:28,946 --> 00:31:30,580 Do we have any old business to 839 00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:32,580 discuss? 840 00:31:34,484 --> 00:31:35,219 I just want to update you all 841 00:31:35,219 --> 00:31:35,919 that the two houses that were 842 00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:38,121 approved for demolition were 843 00:31:38,121 --> 00:31:41,825 done out this week so the two 844 00:31:41,825 --> 00:31:42,525 houses and the sheldon home and 845 00:31:42,525 --> 00:31:45,525 the palm street those were 846 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:48,365 demos this week and they'll be 847 00:31:48,365 --> 00:31:48,832 finishing up the 428 palm 848 00:31:48,832 --> 00:31:49,632 street tomorrow. 849 00:31:49,632 --> 00:31:51,680 >> thank you so much for the 850 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,680 update. 851 00:31:55,339 --> 00:31:57,339 good work. 852 00:31:59,209 --> 00:31:59,643 >> okay any new case business 853 00:31:59,643 --> 00:32:00,276 to go over? 854 00:32:00,276 --> 00:32:00,711 We're going to adjourn. 855 00:32:00,711 --> 00:32:01,110 There's none. 856 00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:02,846 Okay. 857 00:32:02,846 --> 00:32:03,180 We'll go ahead and adjourn the 858 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:03,747 meeting. 859 00:32:03,747 --> 00:32:06,747 It is for the record. 860 00:32:11,588 --> 00:32:13,988 6:04 P.M. Thank you