[0:15] and trades board for AUGUST [0:18] 27th 2026. [0:23] >> we get a roll call mary folk [0:24] out here. [0:25] >> randolph mcdonald here. [0:26] Frank dalton here. [0:31] >> bob warner here in front [0:31] of me. [0:33] >> yeah heidi I was walking [0:38] right? [0:38] Right. [0:38] I did roll call. [0:40] I need disclosure of x party [0:41] communications. [0:43] >> okay. [0:47] No. [0:50] >> and we want to read for [0:51] approval of the previous [0:57] meeting minutes [0:58] . [0:58] >> I'll approve to approve the [1:02] minutes for JULY 23rd, 2026 a [1:02] second. [1:05] >> the motion. [1:09] Mary flicker? [1:09] >> yes. [1:10] Randolph mcmahon. [1:12] Yes. [1:13] >> frank dalton. [1:13] Yes. [1:14] Heidi has walker. [1:16] Yes. [1:16] Bob warner yes. [1:19] The motion carries. [1:25] Let the secretaries who are in [1:27] the city staff and anyone [1:27] wishing to speak on behalf [1:31] of the property owners or [1:32] wishing to speak regarding the [1:35] case before the board please [1:35] rise. [1:38] Please stand and raise your [1:44] right hand [1:45] in the matter to [1:46] which you are about to give [1:46] testimony. [1:49] Do you swear or affirm to tell [1:50] the truth, the whole truth and [1:50] nothing but the truth? [1:51] The witnesses have been sworn [1:57] in [2:03] . [2:07] >> the first case is five a blt [2:09] that's 00025 that's 2026 350 [2:13] mission drive officer barbara [2:13] goebel presenting. [2:16] >> good afternoon. [2:20] I have some information I would [2:20] like to submit as an exhibit. [2:24] It is the order from the [2:24] previous hearing that was [2:28] requested by the board to give [2:32] some clear detail on what the [2:33] property owner needed to do. [2:36] So I just want to submit this [2:37] copy to each of you so you can [2:43] review it. [2:43] Thank you. [2:49] How is it looking? [2:50] The building. [2:53] Oh, okay. [2:59] Thank you [3:00] . [3:01] Oh okay. [3:07] Good [3:11] . [3:14] >> okay, so this case was [3:17] presented on JULY 23rd, 2026 [3:18] and at that hearing the [3:21] building trade board continued [3:24] the case to the AUGUST 27th, [3:24] 2026 hearing. [3:27] Based on the testimony and [3:28] evidence presented to the board [3:31] on JULY 24, 2026, the board [3:32] ordered to continue the hearing [3:35] outlining actions needed to be [3:36] completed by the property owner [3:39] teresa and gascon and or entity [3:40] was mailed certified mail to [3:43] the property owner and was [3:44] signed for and accepted on JULY [3:44] 30th 2026. [3:47] The property was also posted on [3:50] JULY 20th ninth 2026 and an [3:51] affidavit of posting was also [3:54] completed for the file. [3:55] At the last hearing the owner [3:59] had a permit for electrical [4:02] work that with an initial [4:03] inspection that had been [4:05] completed by the building [4:06] official. [4:07] >> the final inspection to my [4:09] knowledge has for the work was [4:13] also completed on JULY 23rd [4:13] 2020 sachs. [4:14] >> the permit was issued to [4:17] replace the toilet and to make [4:17] the drywall repairs. [4:20] To date no other permits have [4:21] been applied for. [4:24] On AUGUST 4th, 2026 I followed [4:27] up with jay, the husband of the [4:28] property owner, to discuss the [4:29] board order to make sure that [4:31] he understood what the board is [4:31] requiring. [4:34] >> and jay stated that he did [4:35] understand and he was working [4:38] on getting an engineer. [4:39] After that day I did not have [4:42] any other contact with the [4:46] property owner and the will [4:46] update the board at this time. [4:47] >> thank you. [4:53] Thank you. [4:58] >> good evening, ladies and [4:58] gentlemen of the board. [4:59] My name is steve woodworth and [5:00] the building official in new [5:01] smyrna beach. [5:02] I have not had any contact with [5:05] the property owner since the [5:05] last meeting. [5:06] He has pulled no additional [5:09] apartments that I am aware [5:09] of or that we show on the [5:14] building department record. [5:15] Given that I cannot offer any [5:18] new information or testimony to [5:19] this case, I prefer to defer my [5:22] time to the property owner. [5:23] The only questions that will be [5:26] available for whatever [5:27] questions here. [5:27] >> thank you. [5:27] Okay. [5:38] Thank you so I don't know. [5:38] I don't know. [5:41] okay. [5:42] >> got it. [5:42] Yeah. [5:48] Sir, would you like to speak? [5:49] Good afternoon. [5:52] I have a complete some of the [5:57] paper which is a report from [6:05] the engineer and also [6:09] engineering firm and also from [6:13] the home inspector. [6:21] And I have here and I any [6:22] question I can answer you? [6:25] I think I can receive a report. [6:26] >> yeah, that's what I know. [6:28] So would you mind passing the [6:29] documents so we can take a look [6:39] at them in the house now [6:39] ? [6:43] >> sir, do you have a copy [6:44] of those reports or is this [6:46] your only copy? [6:47] >> I can hear you well. [6:50] Is this the only copy you have [6:51] or can we keep it for our [6:54] records of the report that you [6:57] just submitted? [6:58] >> yes. [7:01] The report that you just [7:01] submitted. [7:02] >> do you have a copy? [7:05] Can we keep this copy? [7:05] >> yeah. [7:12] Thank you [7:59] . [8:00] >> so, sir, it appears the [8:08] engineering report states that [8:09] the second there are in. [8:11] Yeah, that makes two of us. [8:11] You're welcome to come up here [8:13] and you're. [8:14] >> so it appears the [8:15] engineering report you [8:18] submitted it speaks of the [8:19] property being rebuilt. [8:21] A bowl. [8:22] >> I guess the disconnect here [8:25] is what is it that's preventing [8:26] you from communicating with the [8:29] building department about [8:29] proceeding forward with this? [8:32] are you preventing what what's [8:33] preventing you from [8:33] communicating with city staff [8:37] and the building department to [8:37] proceed forward with getting an [8:39] appropriate permit for these [8:43] repairs? [8:47] You're asking me what in that [8:48] report? [8:51] >> I'm asking why you're not [8:52] communicating with the building [8:52] department. [8:58] >> why did I apply for office [8:59] permit for all electrical [9:03] systems that they completed? [9:04] Okay. [9:13] And the best inspection the [9:13] inspections delivered. [9:13] >> okay. [9:16] Do you believe you're done with [9:17] the. [9:17] No, I'm still working on it. [9:21] Okay. [9:22] I know I let you know I didn't [9:24] go in for the minor things [9:27] which are whichever it was. [9:35] Questionable stuff I. [9:38] >> I wasn't able to fix it and [9:44] I spent all that to fix their [9:45] property. [9:45] Okay. [9:52] So I did whatever. [9:53] >> so the photographs that this [9:53] board is currently looking at [9:58] are. [9:58] Yes. [9:58] Yes. [10:05] This [10:05] okay? [10:05] Yeah, I will. [10:06] Okay. [10:09] So again there you go. [10:10] We'll be able to hear each [10:10] other now. [10:12] So the photographs that we're [10:13] looking at here are months old [10:16] obviously what is the current [10:17] condition of the property? [10:17] What is your plan for next [10:20] steps? [10:20] >> all right. [10:24] There are some pictures of that [10:24] property inside and outside [10:25] compared to what you see. [10:28] There's nothing that looks like [10:29] this all gone. [10:32] And what are the plans for the [10:35] private property? [10:36] What are your plans for next [10:36] steps? [10:41] There's saying they need to [10:42] have I wrote down that paper [10:45] and that paper has a link I [10:48] have to if I can get that paper [10:49] I will look at it. [10:51] Okay. [10:52] So what it is right now I want [10:55] you to paint inside and they [10:59] one of the people that came and [11:02] those homeless people they did [11:03] graffiti inside. [11:09] And I'm trying to not try to I [11:10] have to paint the whole [11:12] building inside. [11:15] And also I'm putting two new [11:20] toilets and I have to do [11:23] questionable to interior doors [11:26] which I'm replacing it and also [11:27] the whatever maintenance needs [11:30] to be done inside outside. [11:33] So I'm on it. [11:34] And do you currently have a [11:37] contractor that's working on [11:38] getting you prices or do you [11:41] intend to do this work yourself [11:41] ? [11:45] That I for the for drywall I [11:49] have permit to do myself. [11:54] I'm a handyman also I did a [11:57] dental work in my past so I [12:00] know most of the this work so [12:06] it's not a big thing study. [12:10] I have a question on your roof. [12:14] I don't see a roof inspection [12:15] and details. [12:16] >> I'm still looking here and [12:18] it was leaking a few spots [12:21] which I fixed it. [12:26] Okay because I still see mildew [12:27] a stasis maybe you in the walls [12:27] in there. [12:35] So I guess you pass the roof [12:36] inspection so you're ready for [12:39] paint. [12:40] And so what your next step is [12:44] going to be paint or not ready [12:46] for anything. [12:47] The interior walls you've done [12:48] that you've done the drywall [12:51] repair. [12:52] I did not do yet. [12:56] I'm still collecting all the [12:56] still doing terrible. [12:57] Yes. [12:57] Yes. [12:57] Yes. [12:57] Yeah. [12:58] Okay. [12:59] So what's your plan of action [13:02] and what's your timeframe for [13:03] fixing the home? [13:06] I'm doing as quick as possible [13:10] because I have I'm doing I have [13:11] another project. [13:14] You have another project? [13:15] No, I mean not here. [13:15] Okay. [13:18] I'm busy in a different things [13:19] are there so as as much as I. [13:22] I have first priority as soon [13:22] aseave time. [13:23] Right. [13:25] Go ahead and do the job. [13:30] Okay. [13:30] One more question. [13:32] Yeah, I have a question for you [13:32] . [13:33] There were questions in regards [13:34] to the aluminum structure the [13:36] aluminum addition that was [13:37] built on to the back of the [13:37] house. [13:39] You know what I'm talking about [13:40] that aluminum room that was [13:43] built there were questions in [13:44] regards to the aluminum [13:47] structure that was added to the [13:51] back of the house has one other [13:56] thing was they inspected in one [13:59] speak and art that was [14:02] inspected it when I apply like [14:06] 1213 years ago there was the [14:10] permitted and engineered. [14:10] Okay. [14:13] So so I'm understanding that is [14:14] not engineered for habitation. [14:17] It is engineered green room but [14:18] not for a part of your house [14:21] for an interior living space. [14:22] Was that addressed by the [14:22] engineer? [14:25] Yeah, that he checked it out. [14:26] Whatever. [14:27] He checked the whole building. [14:31] There was two engineers. [14:32] And are your intentions with [14:35] that room to try to make it [14:35] living space again or are you [14:40] trying to tear that down from [14:41] this green room on the back? [14:41] The aluminum room? [14:44] No, no, no, no. [14:48] Not on the porch on the back on [14:48] that there's going to be porch [14:49] space. [14:49] Yeah, porch both to the front [14:53] and back. [14:58] And so it was also using the [15:05] system for the building is [15:08] concerned. [15:12] I mean we have an engineer this [15:12] is structural adjustment. [15:14] Okay? [15:22] Based on structural. [15:22] Okay. [15:29] So so just for clarity, was [15:33] there a large aluminum addition [15:37] to the back of the home like a [15:43] metal frame room that supports [15:43] it? [15:44] I didn't have any. [15:47] Okay. [15:47] No structure. [15:51] All right. [15:57] Just just a short. [16:03] Okay [16:05] . [16:08] Is this the owner of the home? [16:09] >> is that picture the rear [16:13] of the home? [16:13] yeah, right now? [16:13] Yeah. [16:14] Okay. [16:19] Yeah, I did a lot of work. [16:23] Okay. [16:24] That's awesome. [16:28] Okay, here's all your [16:28] paperwork, sir. [16:28] >> yeah. [16:31] Forec record. [16:32] >> oh, yeah. [16:32] So again, you're going to keep [16:33] it for the record. [16:35] We can keep this. [16:35] You have copies? [16:35] Yes. [16:36] Yes, I have another. [16:37] They give me threeieopies. [16:38] >> you have handwritten notes [16:38] here. [16:41] So you have copies of it. [16:42] You can give me that. [16:42] Okay. [16:45] So I know it does invoicing. [16:45] Okay. [16:46] I'm going to go ahead and hand [16:47] this to you. [16:47] You can go down and speak with [16:48] the attorney directly. [16:54] There you go, sir [17:05] . [17:05] Thank you. [17:08] Okay. [17:12] You have it, sir. [17:15] Right here. [17:22] You got that [17:27] MISS Heidi as well [17:30] as walker of your speaking. [17:31] Can you speak on the [17:31] microphone? [17:32] Yeah, I apologize. [17:33] Yeah, we're not capturing what [17:33] you're saying. [17:34] Yeah, I'm sorry. [17:35] No, I was just saying that I [17:35] think we should have some [17:38] discussion. [17:38] It does look like he's [17:39] progressing and making an [17:42] effort. [17:43] so I would like to make a [17:46] motion to give him an extended [17:47] 30 days and to see if he's [17:50] still progressing. [17:53] Can I second that motion? [17:56] >> can I clarify when you're [17:57] giving him an extended 30 days, [17:58] do you want him to still comply [18:01] with all the previous requests [18:04] that were in the original order [18:05] dated JULY 23rd, 2026? [18:08] Yes. [18:12] The list of five things yes. [18:16] We have a second chance. [18:16] Yes. [18:20] Very very good. [18:21] Mary five second. [18:21] Yes. [18:25] Mary if I could. [18:25] Yes. [18:25] Randolph mcmahon. [18:27] Yeah. [18:27] Yes. [18:28] Frank dalton yes. [18:31] Bob warner yes. [18:31] Heidi hales walker yes. [18:38] The motion carries [18:41] . [18:42] The next case is a request to [18:45] appear seven a 67 cottingham [18:45] drive. [18:47] Officer barbara both will act [18:52] presenting this case as belle [18:58] de dash 200029-2026 property [18:59] location at 67 cunningham drive [19:02] this is a variance case the [19:06] property owner donny and stacy [19:06] hunt 67 cunningham drive has [19:10] requested to appear before the [19:11] building trade board to request [19:11] a variance to the existing [19:14] finished floor for the new and [19:16] proposed additions to 67 [19:17] cunningham drive. [19:20] They would like the floor [19:27] elevation to be remain at 8.26 [19:30] and eight feet two inches 26in [19:33] as originally constructed in [19:33] 2012. [19:37] In lieu of the new ffa for new [19:38] construction that was [19:40] implemented during the 2020 new [19:44] f b c r building code cycle [19:47] requires f e to be two foot [19:48] zero inches above the flood [19:48] elevation. [19:51] So they're asking for a [19:55] variance to leave it at their [19:56] current elevation and stead [19:58] of meeting the new flood [20:02] elevation. [20:03] This is like the question I [20:06] have is I well I guess we'll [20:09] just let steve do his thing [20:10] first or no. [20:10] >> yes. [20:13] This is not my expertise. [20:13] What perfect. [20:20] Thank you [20:20] . [20:25] Good evening again board steve [20:25] woodworth for the city of new [20:26] smyrna beach. [20:27] I am in building and official [20:28] and for the record I am state [20:29] license building official plans [20:32] examiner building inspector and [20:33] an icc certified property [20:36] maintenance inspector. [20:37] You got a question, ma'am? [20:37] I did. [20:43] I guess my my question is has [20:44] it ever flooded before in the [20:48] past I can't speak to whatever [20:48] it's flooded in the past. [20:51] It hasn't flooded since 2012 [20:55] when it was constructed. [20:56] I'd like to provide the board a [20:56] little background information [20:58] of why we're hearing this and [21:02] how we got here. [21:03] New smyrna beach is part of a [21:07] community rating system where [21:11] we get a a grade, if you will, [21:12] on how we enforce the flood [21:14] provisions of our code and [21:19] whether they are stricter than [21:22] the minimum standards and new [21:23] smyrna beach decided in 2020 to [21:26] make our code stricter than the [21:27] minimum standards. [21:27] >> so we got a higher grade in [21:30] our community rating. [21:31] So that's what we're here [21:31] discussing tonight. [21:34] It is not that this house was [21:35] constructed below base flood [21:38] elevation it when it was [21:39] constructed it met all the [21:42] applicable laws and our [21:43] required freeboard since the [21:46] time it was constructed we have [21:46] increased our level [21:50] of compliance. [21:50] We've elevated our minimum [21:52] elevation by 12in. [21:57] So this house when it is [21:57] improved it would meet the [22:00] minimum requirements or it [22:03] would be a level of substantial [22:04] improvement which defaults into [22:08] meeting the new flood elevation [22:08] which is why we're here this [22:09] evening. [22:11] >> the house is 14 years old. [22:15] It has not flooded however it [22:16] would not meet our current [22:20] minimum flood elevation. [22:23] >> a staff report from the city [22:24] engineering department was [22:28] submitted with your agenda. [22:28] It did not carry engineering [22:32] department approval. [22:33] >> they've worked very hard to [22:35] get the c r d c r s words that [22:39] and they are afraid that a [22:39] deviation would be noticed [22:43] under audit and we would get [22:43] docked for that. [22:47] With that being said, it is up [22:47] to you if you would like to [22:50] allow this allowance in the [22:51] free board element not the base [22:54] flood element. [22:55] >> how many square feet is the [22:58] addition do you know? [22:59] I do not remember off the top [23:00] of my head sir. [23:02] I'm sure that the property [23:03] owner has that information and [23:03] could provide it in this [23:04] testimony. [23:06] >> understood. [23:11] >> any other questions? [23:11] >> not at this time. [23:12] All right. [23:14] For now for you, steve. [23:15] >> I will be available if [23:16] needed. [23:16] Thank you. [23:16] Thank you. [23:17] Thank you. [23:21] Is the owner here with you? [23:25] >> I'm sorry. [23:25] >> good evening. [23:26] Thank you for hearing me and [23:30] our thoughts about this [23:30] variance. [23:33] My name is donnie hunt. [23:34] >> we moved here permanently in [23:34] AUGUST. [23:37] We bought this home about two [23:38] years ago on the search for a [23:38] home. [23:41] We looked at a lot of different [23:42] homes. [23:42] We look at other homes in this [23:44] neighborhood that most of the [23:45] homes are built. [23:47] >> I think in the 50s and 60s [23:48] as he stated, the home was [23:52] rebuilt 12 years 13 years ago [23:55] we did not think we had any [23:55] issues. [23:59] We had the original survey. [24:00] I didn't see it up there and my [24:02] architect is here also and I [24:03] think he has a copy but it does [24:05] show the 100 year flood line in [24:09] the front of the house at sachs [24:11] foot which is fema's line with [24:16] that being said, we felt we [24:19] were meeting everything. [24:23] We were unaware of the extra [24:26] 12in I least I was and so we [24:30] bought this house thinking [24:31] we've got a house that's [24:31] already been rebuilt. [24:32] >> it's it's way higher than [24:34] the neighbors. [24:35] i have a picture and I can give [24:37] this to you guys to pass around [24:38] extremely higher than the [24:41] neighbors house. [24:41] >> this portion that they're [24:45] talking about is only a back [24:46] bedroom which is going to turn [24:49] into a dining area, a bathroom [24:53] and part of another current [24:53] bedroom. [24:54] >> we are not changing that [24:57] part of the slab at all. [24:58] What we're doing is taken off [24:58] the garage on the front [25:01] enlarging it and going to store [25:02] two stories with it with hopes [25:05] that we have three kids that [25:06] there will be room for them to [25:12] come home to the lines that [25:13] they talked about. [25:19] Fema's line we we are above by [25:19] one foot this state. [25:23] We are above the county. [25:26] We are above because we're at [25:26] 8.26. [25:29] It's just the extra 12in we've [25:33] talked about the house flooding [25:36] since 2016. [25:40] There's been one, two, three, [25:40] four, five. [25:41] There's been sachs storms cat [25:44] two kapoor, cat five, carrefour [25:44] cat one got three. [25:45] The home has never flooded. [25:47] I asked that when we purchased [25:50] that small portion that falls 7 [25:51] or 8in short is the big [25:52] question here. [25:54] I was also told by city staff [25:58] that if my dollar amount wasn't [26:02] above 50% they wouldn't even [26:02] care about this elevation. [26:08] So I'm just here saying this [26:09] house is 13 years old. [26:10] I really don't want to have to [26:13] tear it down and start over. [26:13] I've already moved out of the [26:17] house because I have a pool [26:20] contractor who's already got [26:21] his permit to start the job. [26:24] he was actually going to start [26:25] and I halted him. [26:26] We're not in the home anymore. [26:28] We're out in another home and [26:30] time and just going to delay [26:34] and delay and delay just trying [26:35] to make this our final home. [26:38] And I don't know if there's [26:39] anything else that my architect [26:41] mark can add if you don't mind [26:41] . [26:45] Sure. [26:50] So that's fine. [26:57] So so good evening. [26:58] >> hi. [26:58] I'm martin israel. [26:59] I'm the architect of can you [27:00] speak into the microphone? [27:01] I am mark nasrallah, the [27:03] architect of record. [27:06] I've been working in new smyrna [27:07] since the 80s so I am aware [27:10] of all of the building codes [27:14] and local codes ordinances and [27:14] I hate making mistakes. [27:18] When we went into this project [27:22] we got our survey with all [27:25] of our bfi's everything we done [27:26] added the fema lines which is [27:30] the very first thing I told [27:30] lonnie we have to do because [27:32] we've done a lot of work on the [27:33] water. [27:35] We understand there is a two [27:36] foot minimum about the fee [27:39] we're required for. [27:40] Our survey right there in [27:43] yellow says flood plain 6.0 [27:46] we're at 8.23. [27:49] I said we're good to go here is [27:50] not the first seven elevation [27:54] on this and when it says that's [27:57] my fema line we just assumed [27:58] terrible word that we're good [28:01] to go it wasn't until [28:02] engineering pointed out and [28:04] even our we have a civil [28:05] engineer david blunt he's never [28:08] even seen it this back left [28:09] corner of the house has a seven [28:12] touch unit and we don't know [28:13] why we can't explain it because [28:16] the elevation back there is [28:17] five and four and everything is [28:20] falling off and why we have a [28:21] seven at that back corner we're [28:23] like you know we we don't [28:24] understand but it's there. [28:27] It's on the fema map. [28:28] I did not check the fema map [28:30] because my surveyor said we're [28:31] at sachs so we that's why we [28:34] have a finished product. [28:38] I'm not one to do and ask for [28:38] forgiveness. [28:39] We had everything we thought we [28:42] had everything we thought [28:42] checked out done is done as [28:48] mentioned we're nine inches [28:48] short. [28:51] The majority of the [28:52] construction proposed is the [28:56] garage and above the garage the [28:57] main house pretty much remains. [29:00] We have because I told him [29:01] don't touch the existing house [29:05] it's good let's build a by the [29:05] garage. [29:07] So that was actually 90% of our [29:11] work is new garage for above [29:16] which is about 2000ft so and [29:17] also when we're done we're [29:21] going to have all new windows [29:22] to meet all of the new when [29:25] zone loads we're going to have [29:26] all of our all the new [29:27] structure will meet the new [29:29] current code so the house will [29:33] be pretty close to meeting all [29:33] of the current levels. [29:34] And then as I've mentioned to [29:37] donny we meet the federal code, [29:40] we meet the state code, we meet [29:41] the county code for minimum [29:41] floor. [29:44] It's only new smyrna that we [29:45] are denied which is below. [29:48] So that is what our request is [29:49] for the variance so we [29:51] have any questions not at this [29:55] time, no. [29:55] Good. [29:55] Thank you. [30:02] Thank you. [30:03] I feel since the house is above [30:06] the road that there probably [30:07] won't be any flooding [30:10] situations but would there be [30:11] any problem if he goes to sell [30:14] and doesn't have those [30:15] requirements done? [30:17] That's no problem in the [30:17] future. [30:24] I agree that is do we have a [30:28] motion of do a motion that he [30:32] does not have to improve the [30:32] property to or he doesn't have [30:35] to do the elevation in order to [30:36] get a permit to complete the [30:39] house?? [30:40] That's correct. [30:45] I second that for the variance [30:46] . [30:51] Mary baker yes. [30:52] Randolph opinion yes. [30:52] Franklin yes. [30:53] Bob warner yes. [30:54] Idaho's walker yes. [30:58] The motion carries. [30:58] Thank you. [30:59] If you'd like to collect your [31:05] photographs, good luck. [31:11] Enjoy [31:20] . [31:23] I was just moving on to the is [31:27] there anything else on this and [31:28] solve the business. [31:28] Do we have any old business to [31:30] discuss? [31:34] I just want to update you all [31:35] that the two houses that were [31:35] approved for demolition were [31:38] done out this week so the two [31:41] houses and the sheldon home and [31:42] the palm street those were [31:46] demos this week and they'll be [31:48] finishing up the 428 palm [31:48] street tomorrow. [31:49] >> thank you so much for the [31:51] update. [31:55] good work. [31:59] >> okay any new case business [31:59] to go over? [32:00] We're going to adjourn. [32:00] There's none. [32:01] Okay. [32:02] We'll go ahead and adjourn the [32:03] meeting. [32:03] It is for the record. [32:11] 6:04 P.M. Thank you