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agenda. I'm going to go over to clerk.

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Be it resolved that the agenda for the

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special council meeting held on June 17,

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2026 be confirmed as circulated.

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Councillor Best, thank you. Councillor

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Jacks, thank you. That's mover and

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seconder. All those in favor?

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That's carried. Thank you, Council.

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Disclosures of pecuniary interest.

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any disclosures of pecuniary interest

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and the reason thereof.

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we go through the evening, please notify

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the chair. And Councillor Rappin,

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» I declare pecuniary interest in the

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sports dome, item one. I'm a contractor.

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And if you've seen my brand new truck

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out in the parking lot and all the paint

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splashed around it, then you know what

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it is I'm doing for them.

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» I thought you were parked too close

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under a tree when I saw that white stuff

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on it, but that's just me.

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good evening, everyone, and welcome. On

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behalf of Council, I'd like to thank you

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for being here this evening and for your

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interest in the matters that are before

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the scheduled presentation, after which

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deputations before opening the floor to

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members of the public.

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time, we would ask you to keep your

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to ensure everyone has a chance to speak

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consideration of reports, and ask

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helping the meeting proceed in an

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deputations, depending on the time, uh

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as the chair, I may call a 5-10 minute

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the first item is number one. I'm going

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our director, Mobs, please. I I do have

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a question though before we begin. The

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items are placed on the agenda one, two,

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What was the rationale on how they were

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» Thank you, Mayor Norcross, to members of

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council and to the audience. The

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sequencing of the three reports uh is

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consideration today. The first study,

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the sports dome study, allows council

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the opportunity to expand indoor turfs

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turf sports in New Tecumseth to

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accommodate sports such as soccer and

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baseball, among others. Should council

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approve this project, council's programs

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could effectively be moved to the sports

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review the pool feasibility study, which

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includes an expansion of the NTRC to

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repurpose the field house. If the sports

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dome in the first report is not

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approved, this effectively limits the

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opportunities in the second report, um

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which includes repurposing the field

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house to include sports like ball

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hockey, roller derby, as well as

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domino. The Beeton Community Centre

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project, as council knows knows, has

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many moving parts, including the option

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to have ice or non-ice programs within

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Beaton. Should council choose to approve

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the sports dome, this presents an

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opportunity to reimagine the field house

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hockey into the NTRC field house. So,

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report, it's difficult to make decisions

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recommendations would have to be

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modified, and then as well as the third

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report. So, just to give council all

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options in sequence to be able to

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consider a systems-wide approach to

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delivering recreation infrastructure.

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explanation, Director. And my other

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question, these are questions that I've

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received from members of the public.

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Is there anywhere in the reports tonight

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that are making a recommendation

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to demolish

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the AMA or remove it from programming?

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council and the audience, uh in the

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three reports included today for council

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consideration, there's no rec-

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recommendations pertaining to the AMA.

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first up we have our presentation. And

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the first one, sports dome phase two

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feasibility report. So, Director Mobbs,

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can you introduce your team and who will

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be making the presentation, please?

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the audience, our first presentation

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this evening relates to the sports dome

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feasibility study phase two. This work

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builds on the town's earlier analysis

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and provides council with detailed

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information on facility sizing, capital

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and operating considerations, and staff

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recommended operating model.

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demand for indoor turf

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turf

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sports, and evaluates a full-size FIFA

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standard dome at Jeff Gaston Sports Park

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as the preferred solution.

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delivered and operated in a way that

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community access and public benefit.

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the president of the New Tecumseth

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Baseball Association that this would be

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a welcome addition that will enhance

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service levels, making this amenity a

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true multi-sport facility. NTBA could

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not attend tonight, though that they

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send their regrets and have indicated

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they support this project. I will now

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turn it over to Steve Langlois, vice

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president and principal planner with

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Monteith Brown Planning Consultants,

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who's joining us virtually this evening.

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permission, I'll turn it over to Mr.

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your your worship and members of

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council. I'm excited to share our team's

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findings and vision for a new

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air-supported dome in New Tecumseth. I

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also appreciate you accommodating me

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remotely this evening.

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available for Q&A, should you have any

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questions relative to the business plan

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component of this report, is John

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Frittenburg of the JF Group. So, we can

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call on John as needed later on in the

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feasibility study addresses the indoor

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turf requirements of a growing

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community. This report, this process

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really has been divided into two phases.

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was led by staff and culminated in a

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report to council in November of 20 last

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year, was

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more detailed feasibility study in phase

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council had resolved to select Jeff S.

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Gallant Sports Park as the preferred

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location for the sports dome.

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phase two. It's a more detailed

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feasibility study.

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operating cost, business model, and

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potential partnerships.

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a great deal of of detail around

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facility needs. Those needs have been

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informed by public input and user group

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requests, uh, partially through the

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broader, um,

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recreation planning initiatives that

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of months. Also looked at usage levels,

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other limitations relative to the

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existing infrastructure, and and

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what those regional supplies, regional

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demand might be. A facility like this

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area, and that's a consideration

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been coordinated with a variety of other

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ongoing initiatives. So, it's a great

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time to do this holistic and and

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comprehensive planning. So, we're happy

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to have this report in front of council

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for your consideration today. Next

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aware that field turf activities,

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indoor,

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late fall, winter, and early spring

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field house at the existing field house

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at the new tech, uh, new tech comes with

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recreation center. That field house was

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designed to be converted into an arena

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or or other form of rink. So, it's

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type of dimension, generally like a 200

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by 85 ft NHL size type of, uh, floor

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certainly been, uh, progressive and and

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has been well used by the by the

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community for the last number of years.

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that the new sports dome will bring

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closely at that space and and reimagine

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it for other in-demand uses that will be

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guided by the work that's forthcoming

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out of the action plan and I understand

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Councillor Mallows will have an update

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later this evening.

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So as noted, the South Simcoe United

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Football Club or SSU is seeking a larger

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venue to support year-round play and

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training including economic tournament

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tournaments that would provide local

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economic spin-offs.

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Next slide.

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The proposed sports dome is intended to

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offer flexible spaces for a variety of

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activities in a year-round setting. So

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this is a dome that would stay up

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year-round. It would allow for

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climate-controlled access 12 months of

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the year.

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It really has an ability to address a

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very wide range of needs.

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While it will be primarily used for

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soccer, we and and on that point, we

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know that SSU currently serves around

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3,900 players and

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has a waitlist, has a very successful

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winter program, has a very successful

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summer program and the dome would set it

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up for success for both of those

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programs moving forward for the for the

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foreseeable future.

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In addition to soccer, it will have

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utility for a wide range of other

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activities, baseball certainly being

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among them. Baseball training is really

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what we're looking at. Demand to get

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some early season preseason

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type of skills training.

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Other field sports, many of which are

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easily modified to to use a space such

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as this.

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And it's not just sports, but moving

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further into town programming, camps,

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rentals, birthday parties, events and

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more.

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Next slide.

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So, our study went

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looked very closely at the potential

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market for a facility like this. That

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helps us identify demand and come up

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with a usage profile for for the

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facility.

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Um that's going and and which in turn

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allowed us to better understand the

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configuration that would be best suited

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to Tecumseth both now and into the

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future.

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Um currently, there's about 190,000

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people really within market catchment

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for this facility. They're not all your

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residents.

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Um you know, 50,000 or or or so are are

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are in New Tecumseth.

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There's a secondary market in

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Adjala-Tosorontio, Essa, and tertiary in

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Innisfil and Bradford West Gwillimbury.

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Right now, there's only one dome,

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a much smaller, you know, a relatively

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small dome in Bradford. It is at

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capacity, and there's

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much latent demand in that community as

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well.

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Um on this basis, the analysis found

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that a small dome, and and I'll show you

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a bit of a graphic on this in a moment.

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We're going to use two two terms, small

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and large.

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Uh small being sort of these two

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small-sided fields, large being twice

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the size, more of a FIFA equivalent, uh

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would be So, a small dome would be

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unable to support current and future

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demand.

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Um and is also something that's uh has

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not been supported by SSU in their

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program model. And I think that's an

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important consideration as well.

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Next slide.

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So, a little further on sort of those

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those two size options that I uh

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spoke to there. The phase one study

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recommended that small dome, about

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60,000 square feet,

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uh that would consist of of two, you

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know, divisible into two programmable

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spaces.

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Um this is not recommended. It'd be

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insufficient to support that existing

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and future demand. Doesn't meet those

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technical requirements of your local

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user groups. And uh, would be very

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limited use during the summer season.

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Uh, rather our report recommends the

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larger dome option.

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Uh, so

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about 100,000 square feet give or take

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consisting of four small-sided fields.

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So, doubling from two to four playable

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surfaces.

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Uh, usage can still occur on a large

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template, but what we find with these

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facilities most of it occurs on these

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smaller small-sided fields. This is

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something that SSU uh, is supportive of

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as a practice, game, and tournament

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venue.

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Um,

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that would offer multiple multi-sport

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functionality, greater options for town

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programming, rentals. Uh, would be able

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to the town would be able to grow into

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it as as demand continues to build. And

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um, interestingly also has greater

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potential for summer use. As as you'll

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see in a moment, the idea is to um,

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erect this dome over a an existing

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outdoor soccer field. We don't want to

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lose that space during the summer. Uh,

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we want to be able to make sure it

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continues to be programmed. The the

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large dome option offers that. Next

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slide.

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So, I mentioned the field layout a

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little um, just to to hammer home I

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guess the point of what we are looking

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at. You'll see a graphic uh, there on

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your right.

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And and if you've been in domes or in

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the return venues across the province,

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there is

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not generally one standard size for

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them. Uh, some are are played on very

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modified structures.

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Um, so

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but in designing this from the start, we

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have the opportunity design with

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intention and with end use in mind. Most

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of the soccer that you do see and most

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of the baseball training and a lot of

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the other sports will use these sort of

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small-sided fields which are really 7v7,

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so seven players on a side, 10 plates.

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Uh you'll see the large dome, the FIFA

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option, which is recommended by um the

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study, allows for four of those. The

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smaller dome option would really,

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you know, take about half of that space.

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Uh so, it would offer two of those uh to

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allow for

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two concurrent activities as opposed to

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four.

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Next slide.

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As noted, an existing full-size grass

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field would be converted to artificial

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turf and domed for all-season use.

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You'll see a bit of a graphic there and

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have others as we go through the

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presentation on what this could look

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like in Jeff Gaston Park. This is an

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image that's really sort of looking

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south. Uh you'll see the

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more or less the existing roadway and

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entrance into the park. You'll see your

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wastewater plant. Um

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uh some of those silos there um sort of

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poking into that graphic. So, this is um

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I believe it's field one. I could be

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wrong on that, but it'll be the the the

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first major field that you see as you

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drive into the complex. That's the

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location of the dome.

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The

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uh importantly here, the dome would also

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be supported by uh a support building.

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This would be a permanent structure. Uh

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it would be you can sort of see it

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through the transparency, really on sort

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of the south side, so at the top end of

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of that dome. This building would

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provide washrooms for uh year-round use

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of the dome as well as summer use of the

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entire site. Right now, uh

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the the site is served uh does not is

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not serviced and is

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supported by uh portable washrooms

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throughout the summer year. This is uh

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improvements to the site such as this

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were recommended in the town's uh 2024

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Parks, Trails, and Open Space Plan.

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By siting this uh dome on this

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particular site, uh and with SSU

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indicating that they would it would they

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would continue to use this site to

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accommodate their summer programming, it

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results in no net loss of fields.

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And additionally, there's a potential to

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establish a new 9 v 9 grass field near

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the eastern perimeter of the park. So,

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that field that you see that outdoor

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field not shown on this graphic, that

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would be new as needs allow. Uh,

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currently that's a fallow uh,

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property. Um, a little bit low, but some

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of the fill could be uh, transferred to

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that location. And uh, we stay out of

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any sort of NVCA regulated limits with

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that.

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Uh, next slide will show the site plan.

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A bird's eye view. So, you'll see a

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slightly reconfigured entry drive into

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the property.

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>> [snorts]

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» [snorts]

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>> Uh, that's

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» Uh, that's

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an area that would be paved. It would

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allow for some paving of of portions of

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that parking lot. The

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for the most part existing field uh,

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configuration would remain and the dome

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goes over that large field as you enter

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into the property.

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Next slide.

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The proposed sports dome and all of the

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additional site work, so servicing, uh,

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uh, storm water and so on would uh,

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comes in a estimated capital cost of

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$10.5 million.

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This is total project cost. It's it's a

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class D project estimate. Um, there's

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many similar models in Ontario that have

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been built in in recent years

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in and around this number. Uh, we worked

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with uh, a landscape planning limited,

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uh, a group that has uh,

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designed and

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uh, worked on several of these dome

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projects in Ontario, including most

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recently in Brampton to help confirm

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those costs. Next slide.

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Now, in terms of operating model, uh,

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there are certainly many options and

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you'll see that throughout the province

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where other sectors are involved,

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whether municipal, uh, not-for-profit,

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or private. Um, and and really

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it's it's a matter of looking at the

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specific circumstances within your

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community to decide what the best fit

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is. Um, our recommendation is that the

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town, uh, be take the lead in developing

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and managing the proposed sports dome.

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Uh, there's a number of reasons for

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that. Uh, most notably, town operation

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helps to ensure fair scheduling and

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access for a range of community groups.

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Uh, while so again, soccer would likely

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be the most dominant, uh, renter of the

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space, it also allows for use with, uh,

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for use from from other sports, other

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activities, other town programming.

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Uh, the dome could also be coordinated

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with other town fields, facilities,

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recreation programs to optimize

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year-round use. Uh,

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you have you have control of it. Uh, you

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can, uh,

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use and leverage your recreation

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software, your marketing, and your other

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tools to make sure that it's, uh, used

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to its full benefit.

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And municipal oversight also prioritizes

555
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,920
broad public benefit, affordability,

556
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,520
inclusive programming. So, you set the

557
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,880
rates, and you set the hours,

558
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,800
uh, and and you, uh, hope to dictate,

559
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,640
uh, how it's used and how it's, uh,

560
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,480
benefits your community.

561
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,830
Next slide.

562
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,840
Uh, the dome itself, uh, from an

563
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,920
operating perspective, and and we tend

564
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,560
to approach these in a very conservative

565
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,600
manner. Um,

566
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,280
indoor turf, as a general rule, has the

567
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,760
potential to be, um,

568
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,520
I'll say I'll say revenue neutral. In

569
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,360
some cases, it can be profitable, but

570
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:40,840
there's there's always a story behind

571
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,880
the story, and it depends how you're

572
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,440
you're counting your costs. Um, and what

573
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,960
I mean by that is

574
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,480
if we just look at pure revenue

575
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,000
uh, against costs,

576
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,920
um, they're pretty close. Uh, and and

577
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,840
this is in initial years of operation.

578
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,200
We anticipate there would be some

579
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,080
additional capacity in in the early

580
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,440
years. As the municipality grows, that

581
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,000
would

582
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,600
it would reach more full capacity, so

583
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,200
allow for better

584
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,200
revenue generation without any real

585
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,080
impact on costs.

586
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,560
But it would have a slight surplus in in

587
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,120
the initial in the initial years.

588
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,880
However, there are certain elements of

589
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,800
this, whether it be field turf itself,

590
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,720
the dome fabric, the HVAC system, that

591
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,960
they do have a finite life. And those

592
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,680
are those are generally 15, you know,

593
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,640
from around 12 to 15 years for the turf,

594
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,320
20 to 25 years potentially for the the

595
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,120
dome fabric, the HVAC. So, we like to

596
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,880
provide some full, you know, from fuller

597
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,880
cost sort of accounting around this. If

598
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280
we look at

599
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600
what those replace capital replacement

600
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,600
costs are, and if you're putting money

601
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,880
away each year, so that when the year

602
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320
comes up for those items

603
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,480
to be replaced, it's already there in

604
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,120
reserve, that changes the equation a

605
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,840
little bit, and the facility itself

606
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,280
would have a net operational cost year

607
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,200
over year in and around $276,000.

608
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,880
Again, we anticipate that that will

609
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,200
become more and more profitable

610
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,920
over time as the community grows. Again,

611
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,440
your costs stay relatively the same, but

612
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,680
your revenue potential rises faster.

613
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,200
And one last slide,

614
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,400
just to give you a sense of what this

615
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:26,720
could look like from a development

616
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,520
perspective.

617
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,640
There's there's a bit of site prep and

618
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,040
servicing involved here, and that's

619
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,120
really the bulk, frankly, of of the

620
00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:35,800
work. We have to consider seasonality

621
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,080
and access to the site, and the ability

622
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,640
to do the work without

623
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,120
unduly impeding existing uses. So, we

624
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,400
anticipate a development timeline of 12

625
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,800
to 15 months. There's a number of steps

626
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,080
that would be required by the town to

627
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,520
step in and

628
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,840
seek the necessary approvals, ready the

629
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,840
site, work with partners to ensure that

630
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,800
there's a solid understanding of of

631
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,200
what's required there. So, there's still

632
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,600
work ahead,

633
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,880
but we're excited around this potential

634
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,520
vision for the for the site and um

635
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,000
with that I'll I'll conclude my

636
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,320
presentation and I will hang back in the

637
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,880
in the in the abyss here and wait to be

638
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,200
called back on for any questions.

639
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,470
>> Okay, thank you very much. I'm going to

640
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:20,480
» Okay, thank you very much. I'm going to

641
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,960
go to the director. Please, would you

642
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,630
like to do the next one? Thank you.

643
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,080
» Uh thank you, Your Worship. If I may,

644
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,120
I'm happy to introduce the next

645
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,600
presenter just so we can keep the the

646
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,800
tempo going. Uh the next presentation,

647
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,960
as they get ready, focuses on the indoor

648
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,240
pool feasibility study. This work

649
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040
examines the need for indoor aquatic

650
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,040
services in New Tecumseth and goes

651
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,400
further by outlining a more

652
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,880
comprehensive multi-use expansion at the

653
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,000
NTRC that integrates recreation

654
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,440
components, including a new gymnasium,

655
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760
walking track, an expanded wellness and

656
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,440
fitness space, and some working

657
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,120
amenities such as change rooms and

658
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,440
program areas. This addition provides a

659
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,520
systems-based approach for service

660
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,600
delivery aligned with recommendations in

661
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,240
the draft R plan.

662
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Staff have consistently heard residents

663
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720
express a desire for a true multi-use

664
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,480
community center similar to neighboring

665
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,360
municipalities. This work provides

666
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,040
Council with the option to consider that

667
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,280
type of integrated facility aligned with

668
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,440
community needs and future growth. We'll

669
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,360
now invite Anant Desai, principal

670
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,320
planner with Monteith Brown Planning

671
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,320
Consultants, to present and introduce

672
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,630
his respective team.

673
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,160
» Thank you, Director. Welcome. Go ahead,

674
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,440
sir.

675
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,710
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of

676
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:30,720
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of

677
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Council. Appreciate you having me here

678
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,080
as well.

679
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,520
Joining me, you've already met

680
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,920
virtually, Steve Langlois and John

681
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Frittenburg. They were also involved in

682
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,320
the pool analysis

683
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,560
in that report. Also in person with me

684
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,400
today is Victor Ziolkowski from MJMA

685
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,960
Architecture and Design. Uh They helped

686
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,080
with the conceptualization and the the

687
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080
costing, the capital costing. So,

688
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,880
um

689
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360
So, yeah. So, we have the we have the

690
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,040
slide deck up.

691
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,360
As you

692
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,280
are

693
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,240
probably well aware, the topic of indoor

694
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200
aquatics has been something that has

695
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,360
been

696
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,560
you know, discussed in this community

697
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
for a number of years. The last master

698
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080
plan in 2018

699
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,320
spoke to the need for an indoor aquatic

700
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,560
center.

701
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,160
The draft recreation culture and library

702
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600
action plan, the ARCLAP, was presented

703
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000
to council in May.

704
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280
And at that time we would have mentioned

705
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,040
and rationalized the need for indoor

706
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,040
aquatics in your community. This study

707
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,800
really now takes it to the next level

708
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,080
where where we have established the need

709
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400
and are providing council with

710
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,920
information

711
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,800
regarding what this could look like,

712
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040
where it could go, ultimately what it

713
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,200
may cost to build and operate. That is

714
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,120
the intent of today's

715
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,400
presentation to you. And the report also

716
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,920
delves into the types of programming.

717
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,640
Do I click or you?

718
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:03,710
Okay. Next slide, please.

719
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,760
So,

720
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,120
as part of the broader analysis,

721
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,000
your a number of your area

722
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,320
municipalities provide indoor aquatic

723
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,400
centers.

724
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,920
There are within roughly a 35-minute

725
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,040
drive, there are eight municipally built

726
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,080
pools. There are a handful of other

727
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,280
um

728
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,520
public or sorry, quasi public or private

729
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,640
sector pools than Auto Saga. For

730
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,280
example, the the CFB Borden base.

731
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,440
Um and and what we do find is that

732
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,520
again, just with the linear distribution

733
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520
of your community,

734
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,120
folks in Alliston tend to travel perhaps

735
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,080
maybe more to Innisfil to CFB Borden. Um

736
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,160
Folks in Tottenham as we understand may

737
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,080
head into King or Caledon, maybe

738
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Orangeville. Folks in Beeton BWG hop

739
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,720
skip and a jump away I suppose from

740
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,520
from from that location.

741
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Next slide please.

742
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,320
But

743
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,920
really you know one thing that we did

744
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,920
hear

745
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,480
from the community is that getting into

746
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,240
some of those non-municipal pools, the

747
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,160
pools operated by your neighbors or the

748
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280
private sector.

749
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,840
There may be non-resident fees or the

750
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,600
residents of those municipalities will

751
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,000
have kind of first dibs for

752
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,520
registration. So you know there are some

753
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,600
you know

754
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,240
barriers I suppose

755
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,280
that that your residents may face in

756
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,680
accessing the pools operated by other

757
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840
municipalities. When we look at the

758
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,960
private sector pools they might not be

759
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760
of a size or configuration that are

760
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,760
suitable for all the range of aquatic

761
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,480
programs that your

762
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,760
community is looking for. And so again

763
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,440
as you will recall perhaps from

764
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,280
the the presentation back in January

765
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,000
for both the arc lab and the pool study

766
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,600
indoor aquatics really was

767
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,280
by far what we heard the most about in

768
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,520
terms of a community need.

769
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,600
May not be a surprise to you folks again

770
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,640
but

771
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,960
you know really

772
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,240
they it was the most popular activity

773
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,320
recreationally that they reported doing.

774
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,160
It was their top request for a type of

775
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,400
facility.

776
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,480
But they were also again looking beyond

777
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,320
the the traditional

778
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,720
lane swimming and lessons but hey can we

779
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,160
do aqua fit? Can we get into more warm

780
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,680
water or leisure

781
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,680
type of aquatic experiences. So

782
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,920
those are some of the things that that

783
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,280
we had heard. Next slide please.

784
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,240
So we undertook having established the

785
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,520
need for the aquatic center we started

786
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440
to do a site selection

787
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,560
analysis and we started off and and

788
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,200
looked at just for for all intents and

789
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,520
purposes,

790
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,480
municipally owned properties, properties

791
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,080
that you already have in your

792
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,440
possession.

793
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,480
And there are 259 of those.

794
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
We went through those and applied a

795
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,240
screening

796
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,200
criteria

797
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,880
based approach where we were able to

798
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,680
shortlist those 259

799
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,120
into what we believed were five viable

800
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,720
candidates

801
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,560
distributed across the town of New

802
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,080
Tecumseth.

803
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,560
Three of those sites were in Alliston,

804
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,400
one in Beeton, one in Tottenham. So the

805
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,200
sites that you see up there being the

806
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,600
the high school,

807
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,000
the Banting Homestead,

808
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800
and then the NTRC here in Alliston. We

809
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,440
looked at the JOC

810
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,120
in in Beeton,

811
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,840
the Joint Operations Center, sorry, as

812
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120
well as then the Tottenham Community and

813
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,760
Fitness Center.

814
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,320
Some of the criteria that we looked at

815
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,840
was proximity to residential

816
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,680
populations,

817
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,200
distribution in relation to other

818
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,040
municipal facilities and services and

819
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,080
parks,

820
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,680
as well as schools.

821
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,280
We looked at the transportation network,

822
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,200
that's an important piece.

823
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Compatibility with surrounding land

824
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200
uses, co-location potential,

825
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240
so that if there was an opportunity to

826
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,000
again create one-stop shop, some

827
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600
economies of scale in operation as well.

828
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,720
That was part of the equation.

829
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,000
Site readiness and

830
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,320
obviously if there were any

831
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,159
encumbrances, physical, legislative, or

832
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:10,320
otherwise.

833
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,720
And after all that shook out, the NTRC

834
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:17,320
was was emerged as the preferred site

835
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,480
for the

836
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,560
indoor aquatic center. Next slide,

837
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,350
please.

838
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,679
So some of the again, when we look at

839
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,560
the pros and cons of of the NTRC, really

840
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200
we do see that

841
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,080
you know, again, by having an existing

842
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,480
community center in in place, you have

843
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,360
the potential to tie in and

844
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,600
again, you're not necessarily

845
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,200
duplicating staff one-for-one. There's

846
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,919
already going to be staff working there.

847
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:45,440
There's already programming that's

848
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,040
occurring out of that facility.

849
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,080
The site itself,

850
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,639
you know, there are portions that that

851
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,760
appear to be readily developable. We've

852
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,040
checked with your engineering staff,

853
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,320
your planning staff as well for insight

854
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,440
there.

855
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,040
It is located along a you know, again,

856
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,920
you know, with Industrial Parkway, it's

857
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,880
it's connection to County Road 10. You

858
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,040
know, that that's readily accessible in

859
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,320
terms of your transportation network,

860
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,720
but

861
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,640
the links bus goes back goes by there at

862
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,440
the moment right now. There is sidewalk

863
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200
connection. So,

864
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,960
you know, one major major factor though

865
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,120
that

866
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,160
you know, was was

867
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
apparent with the NTRC.

868
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,160
It is a site that is located probably in

869
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,840
proximity to the largest number of of of

870
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,080
people of all the sites considered.

871
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,880
You know, by virtue of being in the

872
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,840
Alliston settlement area, but also

873
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,680
again, you know, by virtue of County

874
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,280
Road 10 and other road networks access

875
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,520
to Beeton

876
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,760
and maybe even Tottenham to a degree. We

877
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040
felt was was was

878
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,280
satisfactory.

879
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,560
And you know, again, just in terms of

880
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,360
maybe the cons one might want to think

881
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,840
about the limitations.

882
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,560
Again, we think the benefits outweigh

883
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,440
some of these limitations, but you know,

884
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,920
really it is surrounded by industrial

885
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,840
land uses on on three sides largely.

886
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,400
Two sides I guess.

887
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,800
If one were to expand that site, really

888
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,480
a pool and some other components as

889
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,400
we'll talk about in a moment,

890
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,080
that would take that site largely to

891
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,800
build out when you factor in parking.

892
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,680
So, you know, after a pool and some

893
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,280
other

894
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,800
amenities,

895
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,240
That kind of what you're going to have

896
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,040
there. Uh and really there were just

897
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,360
some architectural nuances that that we,

898
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,520
you know, saw, but our architectural

899
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,080
team, as you'll see in a moment, uh has

900
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,120
uh we believe been able to to address

901
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,320
some of those concerns. Next slide.

902
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,920
Uh

903
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,910
so the folks at MGMA

904
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,280
did

905
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,320
some test fits really to the to the

906
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440
north, south, and west of the existing

907
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,920
building. Uh we were able to make all of

908
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
them work, but what we've uh you know,

909
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,640
established as you know, what we felt

910
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,040
would be preferred

911
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,040
uh was uh a westerly expansion uh really

912
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,320
on the basis that that saves some space

913
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,000
uh creates uh that

914
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,280
uh spot in yellow as as a common

915
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,440
circulation area. Was able to tie in a

916
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,400
little nicely uh a little nicer to that

917
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,600
lobby.

918
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,710
Next slide, please.

919
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:23,880
Um

920
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,360
the site plan again this just takes it

921
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,320
uh illustrates uh a little bit to in

922
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,960
more detail uh in in plan view uh that

923
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,120
that westerly expansion where you'll see

924
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,240
the aquatic center. Uh you'll see a

925
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,480
gymnasium that was brought forward to

926
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,000
council again through the draft our

927
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,440
clap. Uh a new and larger wellness

928
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,680
center. So right now you do have a

929
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,200
fitness space on the second floor

930
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,040
uh of the NTRC. Uh a capital project

931
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,880
like this would perhaps allow you to uh

932
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880
position that facility uh fitness

933
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,880
facility to be provide an experience

934
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,160
more uh akin to what you're experiencing

935
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,520
in Tottenham.

936
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Uh and uh again as was talked about uh

937
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,040
if if council were to, you know, support

938
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,600
that indoor turf indoor dome,

939
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,280
uh that that allows programming

940
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,120
potentially to move out of uh the field

941
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,840
house uh and and reallocate that uh

942
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,680
space to another use. Next slide,

943
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,310
please.

944
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,160
Um so again really where we're

945
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,840
continuing just show this in in

946
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,240
different uh dimensions. Uh ball hockey

947
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:28,120
is identified here largely on the basis

948
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,040
that you know, we feel that you know,

949
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,080
well, that that space, the field house,

950
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,680
was originally designed to kind of arena

951
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,720
uh dimensions. Um and so if uh if if the

952
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:41,440
turf uh activities were to be moved, you

953
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520
know, ball hockey is is one option

954
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,440
there. Again, I've spoken to the to the

955
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,600
fitness uh and the gymnasium components.

956
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,030
Next slide, please.

957
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,840
Uh parking, you know, we we'd be at

958
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,640
about 700 uh parking spots. You know,

959
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,960
the expansion would occur on an existing

960
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,920
parking lot, but we believe that

961
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,400
additional parking could be added uh and

962
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,880
does not result in any net loss uh I

963
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,280
believe uh to what is there today.

964
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,870
Next slide, please.

965
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960
So, the concept itself is uh is anchored

966
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,240
by a 25-m eight-lane pool. We believe

967
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:22,320
that positions you well for the future

968
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,160
and and future growth.

969
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,800
Um it's a multi-tank configuration. So,

970
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,200
again, in addition to uh the more

971
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680
traditional uh uses that would occur in

972
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,360
a rectangular pool, such as again, you

973
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,560
know, lessons, aquatic sport, uh there

974
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,960
is a leisure tank as well uh that would

975
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,040
allow for again more warmer water

976
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,680
experiences.

977
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,840
Uh full-size gymnasium with storage uh

978
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,720
and uh and again,

979
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:50,520
um the opportunity to then

980
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,040
uh reimagine that second floor

981
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,440
uh and and renew the fitness experience.

982
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,240
Uh those are all part of the uh of the

983
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:02,800
proposed concept. Next uh slide, please.

984
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,240
Um so, uh in addition to that uh concept

985
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,240
uh that MJMA architecture uh and design

986
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,800
had done, uh they prepared a capital

987
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,280
cost estimate here. Again, they

988
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,360
uh uh have been involved uh in a number

989
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,440
of these projects. and so, you know, we

990
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,240
we feel reasonably confident in these at

991
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:23,040
about a class C level.

992
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,760
Um whereby the

993
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,000
uh the really after soft costs,

994
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
contingencies, design fees, uh where

995
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,400
we're looking at about $66.2 million

996
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,240
uh

997
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,280
associated with an aquatic center,

998
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,640
gymnasium, and uh revitalized fitness

999
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,360
center. Next slide, please.

1000
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,080
Uh the operating projections, again,

1001
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,560
this is where the JF Group provided a

1002
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,200
lot of insight. Uh you know, I I'm maybe

1003
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,000
it isn't common knowledge, but pools are

1004
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,000
not revenue positive uh facilities. Uh

1005
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,600
anyone that has a backyard pool uh

1006
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,720
probably knows that. Um but uh really

1007
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,040
the the prevailing thought is by

1008
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,080
providing access to

1009
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,080
uh you know, learn to swim,

1010
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000
uh you know, sport, you know, some of

1011
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,880
these uh intrinsic benefits may offset

1012
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,840
uh in principle uh some of the financial

1013
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,720
costs. Uh but really the pool and the

1014
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,280
dry land components together uh have a

1015
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,400
projected revenue generation of $1.3

1016
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,600
million

1017
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,880
annually. Uh this is in current year

1018
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,960
dollars.

1019
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,720
Uh expenditures uh again, largely around

1020
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,720
staffing, uh but also pools are uh you

1021
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:36,560
know,

1022
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,320
intensive in terms of the utilities that

1023
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,800
they use. Uh you know, those those would

1024
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,960
be about $2.6 million.

1025
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,960
So, therefore, council could probably

1026
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,360
expect somewhere in the order of $1.3

1027
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,640
million

1028
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,680
uh annually from uh from an operational

1029
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,440
standpoint. Uh as uh you know, as um my

1030
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,440
colleague earlier said with the dome,

1031
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,560
potentially again, you know, there if if

1032
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,360
people see that value, that strong value

1033
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,360
in having a pool, a fitness center, a

1034
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,240
gym all together, that may help drive

1035
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,680
memberships. Uh so so again, the revenue

1036
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,440
side of things could change in in the

1037
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,360
future. Next slide, please.

1038
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Uh we uh

1039
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,880
you know, looked at various models. A

1040
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,560
number again of those

1041
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,670
>> I'm sorry. Excuse me, sir. Can I just um

1042
00:42:18,670 --> 00:42:18,680
» I'm sorry. Excuse me, sir. Can I just um

1043
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,280
I have to get you to speed it up a bit

1044
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,800
because in the interest of fairness, we

1045
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,600
only have so much time allotted, and we

1046
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,800
want to make sure we're fair across the

1047
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,200
board. So, thank you.

1048
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,830
>> Absolutely. This is I think the last

1049
00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:27,840
» Absolutely. This is I think the last

1050
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,280
slide. So,

1051
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,920
um really uh

1052
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,040
we would recommend that uh the

1053
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,560
municipality operate the indoor aquatic

1054
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,800
facilities. Uh most of that that is

1055
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,200
common practice.

1056
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,760
And uh you know, we did talk to to

1057
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,880
others that that operate. The YMCA was

1058
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,160
was part of our our conversations, but

1059
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,280
really we do believe that um you know,

1060
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,040
the the the town would be the best uh

1061
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,800
positioned to operate this type of

1062
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,080
facility. Next slide, please.

1063
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,480
So, typically, you know, these are 4 to

1064
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,840
5-year processes from the time we say,

1065
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,400
"Hey, do we need a pool?" to the time

1066
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,280
that a door opens. You're already kind

1067
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,920
of already, you know, we've established

1068
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,280
the need. We've looked at the

1069
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,560
feasibility. So, realistically, from the

1070
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,440
time, you know, council made a decision,

1071
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,160
uh probably, you know, 24 to 36 months

1072
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,560
or so,

1073
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,280
uh you know, after after the approvals

1074
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,920
are are received, uh one could expect uh

1075
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,080
that that to uh you know,

1076
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,240
be in place. Next slide.

1077
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,640
So,

1078
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,480
with that, uh thank you, council, for uh

1079
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,440
indulging me in the in the presentation.

1080
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,640
We'll be happy to respond to questions

1081
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,520
later on. Thank you.

1082
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,390
>> Thank you. I'm going to go back over to

1083
00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:39,400
» Thank you. I'm going to go back over to

1084
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:48,350
Director Malts, please.

1085
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,960
» Thank you, Your Worship. Uh

1086
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,120
before we move on to the next

1087
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,360
presentation, I just wanted to chat

1088
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,400
about the field house for a second. Uh

1089
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,760
just wait for the

1090
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,070
rendering to go on the screen.

1091
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,080
As council is aware, the field house was

1092
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,960
originally designed with flexibility in

1093
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,840
mind. And as council considers the

1094
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,040
future indoor turf provision provision

1095
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,440
levels, there's an opportunity to

1096
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,520
reimagine the field house space to

1097
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,080
better meet the evolving community

1098
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,160
needs. The rendering before you

1099
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,120
illustrates that reimagined space,

1100
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,800
including the conversion of the field

1101
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,040
house into a ball hockey dry pad with

1102
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,880
the new concrete playing surface, full

1103
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,360
height dasher boards, spectator seating,

1104
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,200
and glazing. The glazing there is just

1105
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,760
for illustration purposes only. It could

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be moved easily.

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Staff have worked with the New Tecumseth

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00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Ball Hockey League throughout this

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00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,600
process to ensure that the concept

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00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,840
reflects their operational requirements

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00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,720
and could possibly function as their

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00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,000
primary facility for their programming.

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This approach demonstrates how we can

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00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,520
maximize existing existing

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00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,160
infrastructure while responding to

1116
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,600
identified longer-term service gaps, in

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00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,680
particular with pickleball, and we can

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00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,440
also accommodate roller derby while

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00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,360
delivering a coordinated multi-use

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facility strategy.

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I'll now turn over to the next

1122
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,960
presentation. Um this that will focus on

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00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,200
the Beeton Community Centre project.

1124
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,720
This work focuses on the re-

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00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,880
redevelopment of the existing Beeton

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00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,160
Memorial Arena site, which, as outlined

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00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,960
in the report, is nearing the end of its

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00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,440
useful life and no longer meets modern

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00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,400
service and programming expectations.

1130
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Through the study, three preliminary

1131
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,560
design options are being presented for

1132
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,920
council's consideration, each reflecting

1133
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,400
a different approach to balancing

1134
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,800
community space, recreation programming,

1135
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,720
and indoor ice provision levels on a

1136
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:28,040
constrained site. These include a single

1137
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,960
gymnasium community center model, a

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00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,040
larger double gymnasium model and

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00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,440
expanded with expanded program capacity,

1140
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,320
and an arena focus model that

1141
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,440
prioritizes maintaining indoor ice

1142
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,280
within the community.

1143
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,240
NHL ice is deliberately included in

1144
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,160
option three, as this is aligned with

1145
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,760
work previously undertaken. In addition,

1146
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,080
ice hockey user groups have

1147
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,240
overwhelmingly expressed support for an

1148
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:51,800
appropriate sized ice pad that will

1149
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,120
allow the the sport to grow and mature

1150
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,280
both in Beeton and beyond.

1151
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,760
At this stage, it's important to note

1152
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,880
staff are not seeking

1153
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:00,880
full approval [clears throat] on a

1154
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,280
preferred option.

1155
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,760
Rather, the purpose of this work is to

1156
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,960
seek council direction on a preferred

1157
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,560
facility approach which will allow the

1158
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,680
project to advance.

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00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,800
Excuse me. [clears throat]

1160
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,640
It do further preliminary design,

1161
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,440
refinement of the program, and site

1162
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,800
layout in more detailed costing. It's

1163
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,840
important to note that the cost

1164
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,480
estimates presented today at this stage

1165
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,240
are preliminary and do not include soft

1166
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,680
costs, which will be addressed in future

1167
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,520
phases and analysis.

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00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,920
It's also important to note that should

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00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,760
council wish to approve this project in

1170
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,640
full tonight, staff are still able to

1171
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,320
complete the work and bring back any

1172
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,760
budget implications for council

1173
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,960
consideration. Pending feedback tonight,

1174
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,360
we would expect this would be in late

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00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,480
July.

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I now invite Philip O'Sullivan,

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00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,080
representing Perkins and Will as lead

1178
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,400
consultant, to introduce his team. Uh

1179
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,080
through you, Mayor, back to you.

1180
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,630
>> Thank you.

1181
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,480
So, I believe the presentation will be

1182
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,120
from over here, members of the public

1183
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,960
and those watching at home.

1184
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,040
So, go ahead, please, sir.

1185
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,960
And when your light comes up red, it

1186
00:46:58,960 --> 00:46:59,680
means you're live.

1187
00:46:59,680 --> 00:46:59,990
>> Yep.

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» Yep.

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00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,830
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you,

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00:47:00,830 --> 00:47:00,840
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you,

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00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,160
Council. Thank you, Director Moses. We

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00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,640
appreciate the opportunity to be here

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00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,320
this evening and present our work. My

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00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,720
name is Philip O'Sullivan, as Director

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00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,760
Moses said. I'm an associate principal

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00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,080
working in sports and recreation at

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00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,480
Perkins and Will. I'm joined by

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00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,240
Christina Grimes, a senior associate and

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designer at Perkins and Will, who is the

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00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,280
designer of this project. She'll speak

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00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,920
through the plans as we go through. As

1202
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,480
well as our industry colleague, John

1203
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Hack from Sierra Planning and

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00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,760
Management, who has helped us with the

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00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,640
costing and business model relative to

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00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,560
the options that you're going to see

1207
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,920
this evening.

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00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,390
Next slide, please.

1209
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,520
As a brief project overview, Perkins and

1210
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Will and Sierra Planning were were

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00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,720
brought on in and around December 2025

1212
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,960
to undertake a feasibility study uh for

1213
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,600
a community center in and around the

1214
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,160
Beaton Memorial Arena, including the

1215
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,320
Beaton Memorial Arena. Um the the

1216
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:45,920
project is essentially broken up into

1217
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,360
two phases. One being site investigation

1218
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,240
and community engagement, and the second

1219
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,960
phase being conceptual design. It's

1220
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,000
supposed to be run kind of

1221
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,480
consecutively. Um there are are to be

1222
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480
two two presentations to council. Today

1223
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,120
is the first one where as Director Moes

1224
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,920
noted, we're seeking direction on some

1225
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,000
of the options we're going to present

1226
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,760
this evening. Um and the feasibility

1227
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,520
study is intended to be complete again

1228
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,920
as Director Moes said in July of 2026.

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We have overlapped these phases for the

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00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,560
interest of time and to be able to allow

1231
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,880
our process of community engagement to

1232
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,600
inform the design as opposed to having

1233
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,040
it happen in tandem, having it happen

1234
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,400
together. Um I sorry, in tandem. So that

1235
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,200
way we can make sure that we're it

1236
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,440
bringing that into our design thinking

1237
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,960
as we work through the process. Next

1238
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,230
slide, please.

1239
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,680
Our community engagement process took

1240
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,760
place on in in five different ways. We

1241
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,960
had an online community survey that was

1242
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,480
open for the duration of the other uh

1243
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,440
events I'm about to describe. We had

1244
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,280
pop-up events, three in-person pop-up

1245
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,640
events. Uh we also had public a public

1246
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,560
information session that took place at

1247
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,280
the town hall. We interviewed user

1248
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,800
groups and we also had council

1249
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,800
interviews.

1250
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,920
Uh so we started in July of 2020 uh

1251
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,120
pardon me, January of 2026 with council

1252
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,560
interviews where we met with council to

1253
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,720
understand the history and context of

1254
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:57,040
previous developments and thoughts

1255
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,880
around how the Beeton Memorial Arena had

1256
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,320
been thought of in the past from

1257
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,040
different councils and that was very

1258
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,440
helpful. Uh then we started to popu-

1259
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,120
have pop-up events and these pop-up

1260
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,680
events were for the public, open to the

1261
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,560
public. Um they happened in three

1262
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,360
different locations, the Tottenham

1263
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Community Centre, uh the D.A. Jones

1264
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,200
Library and of course the Beeton

1265
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,800
Memorial Arena.

1266
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Uh and those were focused on

1267
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,160
conversations with the community about

1268
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,280
program, what was desired, what wasn't

1269
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,240
being provided, what could be provided

1270
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:26,360
and really looking at how the any design

1271
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,680
for a new community centre in and around

1272
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,840
the Beeton Memorial Arena could be

1273
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,680
impacted by that need.

1274
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,320
Uh the public information session, that

1275
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,400
was the session that was held here at

1276
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,200
town hall. That was a session where we

1277
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,600
began to take all the information that

1278
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,720
we had heard uh from the community and

1279
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,880
from council itself and build in

1280
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,880
conceptual ideas about how the design

1281
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,200
could be reflected or placed on the

1282
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,320
site. And this was done so we could seek

1283
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,280
community input, have conversations and

1284
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,960
understand how the needs are being met

1285
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,400
or not being met and where we could have

1286
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,160
alternate revisions to um to make those

1287
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,880
meet the needs. And what you see tonight

1288
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,680
is a is a product of that. And then

1289
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,480
lastly, we had user group meetings. This

1290
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,120
was a specific user groups where we

1291
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,920
brought them to talk about the overall

1292
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,000
concepts, but also to talk about the

1293
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,480
existing context and how that the

1294
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,200
physical impacts or limitations of those

1295
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,760
spaces are impacting their business and

1296
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,760
how there was potential for future

1297
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,160
correction of that in new facilities.

1298
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,920
And it's worth noting at this point that

1299
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,840
and you can see in the images here

1300
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,680
that while we did in community

1301
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000
engagement see quite a clear need for

1302
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,600
ice and want for ice and and emotional

1303
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,800
connection to ice, we also heard quite a

1304
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,560
bit of commentary about things that

1305
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,800
weren't offered, things like gym spaces,

1306
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,280
indoor walking tracks, availability for

1307
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,880
alternate sport, and ability to

1308
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,480
congregate and gather indoors.

1309
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,800
So, we thought that was quite useful in

1310
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,200
terms of helping us develop an initial

1311
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,870
program. Next slide, please.

1312
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,920
So, from all of that conversation with

1313
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,480
with the public, we developed a project

1314
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,320
vision and it reads like this. Shaped by

1315
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,160
community input and grounded in themes

1316
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,480
of community, place, and value, this

1317
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,040
project reimagines recreation in Beeton

1318
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,080
at a pivotal moment of growth. Building

1319
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,440
on the legacy of the Beeton Memorial

1320
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,040
Arena, this new community center will

1321
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,040
become a vibrant, inclusive hub that

1322
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,800
brings residents together, supports

1323
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,320
diverse needs, and strengthens

1324
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,400
connection and belonging. Centrally

1325
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,320
located, it will honor its role as a

1326
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,840
long-standing community anchor while

1327
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,400
serving future generations.

1328
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,640
Next slide, please.

1329
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,960
From the project vision, we created

1330
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,960
guiding principles. These are

1331
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,640
touchstones that we go back to during

1332
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,560
the design process up until this point

1333
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,120
and make sure that we're in alignment

1334
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,600
and and continuing to service the the

1335
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,400
the needs of the community. We again,

1336
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,840
community, place, and value were the

1337
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,560
three guiding principles that we we

1338
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,480
landed on and the New Beeton Community

1339
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,600
Centre will support in terms of

1340
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,920
community the evolving social, cultural,

1341
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,600
and recreation needs of the current and

1342
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,800
future residents of New Tecumseth.

1343
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,640
From a place perspective, the Beeton

1344
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Community Centre will be thoughtfully

1345
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,160
rooted in its context, reflecting both

1346
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,040
its historic setting and its future

1347
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,040
potential as a modern, efficient

1348
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,400
recreation centre.

1349
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,040
And from the point of view of value, the

1350
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,640
centre will be designed to maximize

1351
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,600
long-term value in its construction,

1352
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:05,030
operation, and spatial efficiency.

1353
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:05,840
» [clears throat]

1354
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,430
>> So, the next series of diagrams will

1355
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:07,440
» So, the next series of diagrams will

1356
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,000
take a closer look at the BMA site. On

1357
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,120
this side, we have a perspective aerial

1358
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,760
view of the BMA site. It's a very

1359
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,840
prominent central site on Main Street

1360
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,360
within the Beeton Heritage District.

1361
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,960
It's been home to the Beeton Memorial

1362
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Arena since 1947.

1363
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,720
So, the site's really served in

1364
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,960
generations of residents through

1365
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,800
skating, hockey, and a wide variety of

1366
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,680
community events. It's a very

1367
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,360
well-loved, active gathering place that

1368
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,080
the design of the new community centre

1369
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,280
and arena looks to build upon.

1370
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,230
Next slide.

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00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,240
The site itself forms part of a broader

1372
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,720
ecological corridor linking Main Street

1373
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:50,360
to the Beeton Community Park north of

1374
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,080
Prospect Street.

1375
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,560
So, existing open green spaces kind of

1376
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,880
weave around the arena and existing

1377
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,320
parking areas,

1378
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,520
creating an informal but continuous

1379
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,320
landscape network.

1380
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,560
It's important to note that there is a

1381
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,720
natural water course that runs along the

1382
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:09,400
west edge of the site. So, for our

1383
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,280
preliminary site planning purposes, we

1384
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,080
have assumed about a 15-m setback from

1385
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,920
the top of bank of that water course as

1386
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,080
this site is under the Nottawasaga

1387
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Valley Conservation Authority

1388
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,200
jurisdiction.

1389
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,390
Next slide.

1390
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,480
The new community centre design presents

1391
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,200
an opportunity to,

1392
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200
you know, reimagine and better organize

1393
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,200
both indoor and outdoor amenities on the

1394
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,360
existing BMA site.

1395
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,400
By locating the new building along Main

1396
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,720
Street next to the library,

1397
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:41,680
a more direct connection from Main

1398
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160
Street through the site to the Beaton

1399
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Community Park can be established and

1400
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,920
that's kind of shown here in in the

1401
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,880
the red graphics.

1402
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,920
This space can become a linear

1403
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,200
multi-year use plaza

1404
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,360
serving not only as kind of a key

1405
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,480
pathway through the site but also as an

1406
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,320
arrival plaza, an informal gathering

1407
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,520
area, perhaps a reading garden next to

1408
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,440
the library

1409
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,080
populated with both seating and and

1410
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,200
landscaping.

1411
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,680
Next slide.

1412
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:14,880
And then lastly it's important to

1413
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,280
highlight that this site's located

1414
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,760
within the Beaton Heritage District. So

1415
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,320
the new community center design will

1416
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,640
draw from this context with careful

1417
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,080
attention to scale, rhythm, form and the

1418
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,120
predominant brick materiality to ensure

1419
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,200
the building kind of fits within that

1420
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,920
heritage streetscape.

1421
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,070
Next slide.

1422
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,440
So we're now going to walk through the

1423
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,760
three design options.

1424
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,400
We're calling them design options but

1425
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,120
they are essentially test fits, you

1426
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,480
know, they're they're trying to test

1427
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,000
different building areas and and the

1428
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,680
parking requirement on a site and

1429
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,680
regardless of which design is kind of

1430
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,040
selected to move forward with there

1431
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,760
would be much more design exploration

1432
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,040
that kind of continues on.

1433
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,080
So this is design option one, it's the

1434
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,120
single gymnasium model

1435
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,640
and it's the smallest of the three

1436
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,840
options.

1437
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,520
So that smaller community center

1438
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,480
footprint and the smaller parking

1439
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,560
requirement

1440
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,840
uh preserves about half of the site for

1441
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,360
open green space and maintains the

1442
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,320
existing splash pad and basketball court

1443
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,920
on site.

1444
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,400
This design does have space for the

1445
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,640
existing BMA to potentially remain on

1446
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,080
site if required and this has been

1447
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,440
analyzed as a possible scenario and will

1448
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,840
be described in more detail at the end

1449
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,840
of presentation by John Hack. In

1450
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,120
looking at the site plan on the here,

1451
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,880
it's important to note that there would

1452
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,200
be impacts to the parking efficiency if

1453
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,080
the BMA does remain,

1454
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,560
either reducing the amount of parking

1455
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,800
provided or increasing the parking area

1456
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,600
shown currently.

1457
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,550
Next slide.

1458
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,120
On this slide, we have the floor plans

1459
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:54,960
for the two building levels. Uh the

1460
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,320
ground floor is on the left and includes

1461
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,280
the single gymnasium and community hall

1462
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,960
programs with some support spaces, the

1463
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,720
building amen, and an entry lobby off of

1464
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,120
Main Street.

1465
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,800
The second floor on the right will have

1466
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,760
a couple of multi-purpose rooms and a

1467
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,680
walking track around the two-story

1468
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,680
gymnasium space.

1469
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,280
And then the community hall space on the

1470
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,520
ground floor would also be two stories.

1471
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,800
So, that kind of provides a nice general

1472
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,920
generous volume of space for a wide

1473
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,760
variety of community events.

1474
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,320
Next slide.

1475
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,880
And then here we have a hand sketch of

1476
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,040
how the new community center would

1477
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,600
integrate onto the Main Street

1478
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,640
streetscape. So, it's a very high-level

1479
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,600
sketch. It's not intended to be a

1480
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,080
design, but more of a representation of

1481
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,360
the scale of the building next to the

1482
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,840
library. Starting to imagine how a plaza

1483
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,920
space emerges between the building and

1484
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,200
the library, how building entries are

1485
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,760
identified, how brick, glass, and other

1486
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,080
materials could come together in a

1487
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,760
variety of expressions, and you'll see

1488
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,720
that represented both in this sketch in

1489
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,600
the sketches to come for the next design

1490
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,920
options.

1491
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,794
Next slide.

1492
00:56:59,794 --> 00:57:00,670
>> [clears throat]

1493
00:57:00,670 --> 00:57:00,680
» [clears throat]

1494
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,430
>> Design option two is the double

1495
00:57:02,430 --> 00:57:02,440
» Design option two is the double

1496
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,720
gymnasium model. So, what's different

1497
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:08,040
here is it's larger than the first

1498
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,840
design option. So, instead of a single

1499
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,400
gym, it has a double gym with a much

1500
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480
larger walking track around that

1501
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,960
gymnasium and some additional

1502
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,840
multi-purpose rooms.

1503
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,600
The building and parking lots here have

1504
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,360
kind of an offset bar design. So, this

1505
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,560
allows for a larger plaza space along

1506
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Main Street in front of the building's

1507
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,400
main lobby space.

1508
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,040
The site is also showing the potential

1509
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,080
for an outdoor skating trail and covered

1510
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,440
ice rink. However, this program was

1511
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,560
identified as a separate cost from the

1512
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,640
overall construction costs

1513
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,520
of the building.

1514
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,800
And then again, technically the BMA

1515
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,520
could remain on site for this option.

1516
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,800
However, the site would be significantly

1517
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,960
impacted. There would be major impacts

1518
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,720
to parking capacity as well as

1519
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,520
significant complexities to the

1520
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,470
construction of the new facility.

1521
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,360
And next slide.

1522
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,560
So, you can see the

1523
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,400
um the two floor plans for this option

1524
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,040
here. Uh the ground floor is on the

1525
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,400
left-hand side has the double gymnasium,

1526
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,040
the community hall, a multi-purpose

1527
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,080
room, and some support spaces, and a

1528
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,880
generous lobby space off of Main Street.

1529
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,400
And then on level two on the right, you

1530
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,680
have a couple multi-purpose spaces as

1531
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,560
well as a large walking track around the

1532
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,480
two-story gymnasium. And again, that

1533
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,080
community hall space has been designed

1534
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,000
as a two-story space as well.

1535
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,120
Next slide.

1536
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,120
And here's another sketch just kind of

1537
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,320
showing the scale of the design along

1538
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,560
that Main Street streetscape and next to

1539
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,400
the library.

1540
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,550
Next slide.

1541
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,160
And then lastly, we have design option

1542
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,360
three. So, this is the arena option. And

1543
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,680
important to note that the ice surface

1544
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,480
designed here is an NHL-sized ice pad

1545
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,600
model.

1546
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,280
Um this is the largest uh building

1547
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,080
program of the three options and

1548
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,440
therefore will require the largest

1549
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,440
footprint of parking. So, you can see

1550
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,560
the building and the parking do take up

1551
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,920
um a big portion of the site. We're not

1552
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,840
able to maintain the existing basketball

1553
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,000
court, but the existing splash pad

1554
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,960
should be able to remain

1555
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,280
uh on site with the building and the

1556
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,720
parking requirements.

1557
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,160
Next slide.

1558
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,960
It's another two-story building. So, on

1559
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,920
the ground floor the left-hand side,

1560
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,200
we've got the ice rink with those

1561
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,600
support spaces. So, change room spaces,

1562
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,240
and back of house mechanical spaces,

1563
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,960
a small multi-purpose room, a reception

1564
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,480
desk admin space, and then a concession

1565
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,480
space that's kind of adjacent to that

1566
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,880
main lobby off of Main Street.

1567
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,680
Up on level two, you have a large

1568
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,720
generous walking track that wraps around

1569
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,360
the ice rink, as well as a viewing area.

1570
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,400
So, upper level viewing along the rink

1571
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,200
uh for great views down to the rink

1572
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,160
below. Another multi-purpose room.

1573
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,880
And then in this design, the community

1574
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,320
hall and and associated teaching kitchen

1575
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,040
are located up on level two, rather than

1576
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,880
the ground floor.

1577
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,800
Next slide.

1578
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,560
Again, just another sketch kind of

1579
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,600
showing what that feels like on Main

1580
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,120
Street next to the library um

1581
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,800
and just kind of imagining some of those

1582
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,200
um spaces in and around the building.

1583
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:25,390
Pass it over to John.

1584
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,160
» Um on the on the financial review side,

1585
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,600
it it's uh it's probably um

1586
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,880
better to view it as as a as a link to a

1587
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,880
funding strategy or the implications of

1588
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,040
one option over another. So,

1589
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,240
as you've seen, there are three options

1590
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,080
presented. And on the two options,

1591
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,800
options one and two that maintain the uh

1592
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,280
that that bring in a new community

1593
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,520
center, the options shown are that the

1594
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,520
BMA the the Memorial Arena is not

1595
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,360
retained. Recognition that it could be

1596
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,520
with some challenges. So, with that, the

1597
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,240
what I'm about to show for the balance

1598
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,320
of the slides is really to understand

1599
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,160
based on each of those options, um what

1600
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,640
is the what are the implications of of

1601
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,480
actually retaining the Memorial Arena on

1602
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,400
the side versus its

1603
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,560
its removal. And then of course, option

1604
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,640
three, which is the uh bringing in a new

1605
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,320
NHL-sized

1606
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,040
um arena with community hall space. That

1607
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,640
one is conceptually a little bit more

1608
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:24,080
straightforward

1609
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,000
in terms of the financial implications.

1610
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,400
So, next slide, please.

1611
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,880
So, just to get into it, and I hope I

1612
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,560
don't uh confuse people with uh with a

1613
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,880
lot of different boxes here, but

1614
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,400
uh for for the two options for the for

1615
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,320
the community centers, options one and

1616
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,880
options two,

1617
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,160
um there are really we've developed some

1618
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,440
financial scenarios uh to reflect what

1619
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,720
would happen if you kept the

1620
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,160
um Memorial Arena going for a period of

1621
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,560
time. What is that period of time is

1622
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,080
I'll I'll get to that. So, option A

1623
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,560
would be that you keep the BMA open

1624
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,840
until such time as there was a solution

1625
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,880
to replacing it with uh new, likely

1626
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,440
larger, twin pad, probably uh ice

1627
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,080
somewhere else within the municipality.

1628
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,760
The second scenario, B, is uh closing

1629
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,200
the BMA

1630
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:16,880
um

1631
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,680
uh for uh for construction of a new

1632
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,280
facility, and then uh

1633
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,440
having essentially to find ice

1634
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,800
elsewhere, or recognize there'd be a

1635
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,800
loss in service for a period of time.

1636
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,120
So, uh just to run it through very

1637
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,600
quickly, scenario A, it remains open

1638
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,440
until 2036.

1639
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,400
There are certain costs, obviously, to

1640
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,840
to look at in terms of the BMA going

1641
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,240
going operating costs, but also an

1642
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,400
increasing likelihood of significant

1643
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,000
capital costs.

1644
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,480
Um and then if you were to close the

1645
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,280
facility, then you avoid those costs,

1646
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,520
but you run into the challenge, of

1647
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,880
course, of not having

1648
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,160
enough uh space to be able to operate

1649
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,560
the facility both for the winter use

1650
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,680
and the uh the non-winter use as well.

1651
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,960
Next slide, please.

1652
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,120
So, what are we what are we actually

1653
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:06,720
looking at in terms of the timelines

1654
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,320
here? So, the the sort of foundational

1655
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,320
assumption of of what we're doing here

1656
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,680
and the information we're providing is

1657
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,680
essentially to give council uh a

1658
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,920
non-design perspective, a financial

1659
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,240
perspective on some of the issues Um is

1660
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,880
that we're assuming here that that by

1661
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,160
2036 there would be investment made to

1662
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,400
produce new ice in the town as a result

1663
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,880
of the need for that

1664
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,560
and as laid out in the various um

1665
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,400
planning documents, recreation master

1666
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,280
plan in particular for that. So, that

1667
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,720
would be the the aim and if we were to

1668
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,200
commission if the if the work were

1669
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,720
commissioned very soon then obviously

1670
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,280
the redevelopment of the memorial site

1671
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,960
could happen

1672
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,200
you know as as near as 2030 or 2031. So,

1673
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,400
those are the timelines.

1674
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,670
>> Next slide, please.

1675
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,080
» So, I will do my best to simplify what

1676
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,080
we are looking at here but essentially

1677
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,280
just to recognize the options and so

1678
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:12,400
scenario 1A is to keep the BMA open and

1679
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,200
there are certain operating costs that

1680
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,680
come with that as well as caper capital

1681
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,880
costs.

1682
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,160
The buildings themselves

1683
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,920
Christina has laid out what they are.

1684
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,240
I'll just focus on again the

1685
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,640
the uh

1686
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,200
the costs associated with each. So, the

1687
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,240
the smaller community center

1688
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,120
in and around 24 million dollars in

1689
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,200
terms of construction cost.

1690
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,440
The second one about 40% higher in cost

1691
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,360
actually about 50% higher in space

1692
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,760
that's made available. So, there are

1693
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,640
some efficiencies there the bigger you

1694
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,160
go in a building.

1695
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:45,720
Uh

1696
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,200
relative to the cost there is an

1697
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,240
efficiency there and then scenario three

1698
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,840
a new NHL pad which is more than that

1699
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,120
it's got community hall space as well

1700
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,360
factored into it and some other rooms.

1701
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,600
You're in at around 44 million dollars

1702
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,840
in construction costs for that as well.

1703
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,200
I'll maybe come back in any questions to

1704
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,720
to fill out some of the details here but

1705
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:11,870
if you go to the next slide, please.

1706
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,920
Let's just focus on this and this is the

1707
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,680
last significant table for the

1708
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,000
presentation. So this actually gives

1709
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,920
some numbers here to what we're looking

1710
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,720
at so we can compare between the three

1711
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,920
options

1712
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,800
as it relates to the issue of whether

1713
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,760
you do or do not retain the Beaton

1714
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,880
Memorial Arena until such time and we're

1715
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,280
assuming about 2036 to be able to

1716
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,360
uh bring in new ice that would would

1717
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,840
replace what is lost if uh if option

1718
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,880
three

1719
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,240
uh for a new arena on site is not chosen

1720
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,200
and the options one and two are

1721
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,920
developed without retaining the arena.

1722
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,240
So option 1A capital cost as I'd

1723
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,160
mentioned around $24 million in

1724
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,120
construction cost.

1725
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,360
Because of the particular condition of

1726
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,720
the uh the Beaton Memorial owner uh

1727
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,840
Beaton Memorial Arena at this point uh

1728
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,040
existing capital cost estimates from a

1729
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,280
building condition assessment

1730
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,280
in uh what we're calling present value

1731
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,040
and so putting it in today's dollars it

1732
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,080
strings out to around 2036 or just after

1733
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,880
is about 15 15.6 million dollars. So

1734
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,560
call it 15 million. It's significant.

1735
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,760
Um the annual deficit is going to be

1736
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,320
true of any facility and in in fairness

1737
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,240
the

1738
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,800
option three uh for a brand new facility

1739
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,240
is going to have a higher operating

1740
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,680
deficit than the existing

1741
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,480
Memorial Arena. But just to put that on

1742
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,560
the page about $2.8 million. This is on

1743
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,920
the left hand column there for option

1744
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,160
1A1. When you add that together the

1745
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,480
total

1746
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,680
um value of uh of costs in in present

1747
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,760
value terms is around $42.5 million.

1748
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,680
If you were to um

1749
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,640
close the arena

1750
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,200
um there looks there like there's a

1751
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,240
significant savings and there is there

1752
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,120
is that. Um the challenge though of

1753
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,960
course is that the unless a new facility

1754
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,680
to replace that

1755
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,480
is brought on board. So, to replace the

1756
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,480
lost ice and the lost summer use, then

1757
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,560
there's a there's a loss of service to

1758
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,560
the community.

1759
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,240
Um and that can be replaced by if you

1760
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,560
look under row down where it says D

1761
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,400
about four up from the bottom, the idea

1762
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,960
there is that you could purchase the

1763
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,400
municipality could look to try and

1764
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,800
purchase ice elsewhere

1765
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,600
and then provide that to the community

1766
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,000
at the subsidized rate. There's

1767
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,120
obviously a risk to do that and we don't

1768
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,200
have a position on whether that is

1769
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,120
more likely or less likely, but it is in

1770
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,280
theory something that could be could be

1771
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,320
done. But, the bottom line is that that

1772
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,120
comparison of 42 million versus the 27

1773
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,920
million is because there is uh there is

1774
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,240
essentially

1775
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,440
um the loss of the Beaton Memorial Arena

1776
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,880
and a decision has to be made as to

1777
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,000
whether you find ice from elsewhere or

1778
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,520
drop the level of service until they get

1779
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,120
a new pad.

1780
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,400
Really the same conversation for just to

1781
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,040
speed up here, the same conversation for

1782
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,520
scenario 2A and 2B. It's just a bigger

1783
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,000
set of numbers.

1784
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,160
Um and so there is a comparison there of

1785
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,799
50, you know, 51.9 million versus 36.6

1786
01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:18,920
million if you were to keep the Memorial

1787
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,680
Arena open until 2036 or close it and

1788
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,040
suffer the

1789
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,359
the issues that surround a loss of ice.

1790
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,759
And then of course, scenario three

1791
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:31,600
uh is one where the initial capital

1792
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,279
costs associated with the new arena that

1793
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:36,600
would be put on site is substantially

1794
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,240
higher than building a community center,

1795
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,560
but

1796
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,120
um what you don't have because you would

1797
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,720
be required in this in this design

1798
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,480
scenario to close the BMA as soon as

1799
01:08:47,480 --> 01:08:49,839
you're starting construction. So, let's

1800
01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:51,520
just say that happens tomorrow or

1801
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,960
beginning of next year, whenever the

1802
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,759
design is complete, uh you would have to

1803
01:08:55,759 --> 01:08:58,120
find ice for a period during the

1804
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,359
construction period, uh let's say 3

1805
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:02,600
years, or you would have to

1806
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,200
um suffer the loss of of service that

1807
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,759
that happens knowing that you're

1808
01:09:06,759 --> 01:09:10,080
bringing back a bigger, better facility

1809
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,960
in a few years time. But, you can see

1810
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,040
the numbers there that it it shows that

1811
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,240
there isn't the same level of cost

1812
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,359
because you're not maintaining the

1813
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:19,920
existing arena.

1814
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,080
So,

1815
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,120
I will leave it at that. I'm sure I've

1816
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,759
numbed everyone with numbers, but I'll

1817
01:09:24,759 --> 01:09:27,160
be happy to go through any questions

1818
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:34,749
that you may have.

1819
01:09:34,759 --> 01:09:36,160
» Thank you. I'm going to move on to

1820
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,400
capital projects financial impact

1821
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,160
assessment, and our presenter is Raj

1822
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,440
Narine.

1823
01:09:41,440 --> 01:10:13,230
May I hand it over to you, Raj?

1824
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,040
» Good evening, Mayor Norcross and members

1825
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,440
of council.

1826
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:18,000
Um

1827
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,800
My name is Raj Narine, and the manager

1828
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,600
of financial services.

1829
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,240
Thank you for

1830
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,720
giving me the opportunity to present

1831
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,840
tonight.

1832
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,680
I will be presenting our financial

1833
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,480
impact assessment for the three projects

1834
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,800
that was discussed earlier, and it's the

1835
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,160
aquatic center, sports dome, and the

1836
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,000
community center.

1837
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,640
Um my

1838
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,440
assessment will focus mostly on the town

1839
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:44,080
debt debt capacity, and annual repayment

1840
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,160
limit, and the projected tax impact.

1841
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,520
So, this slide just give a brief

1842
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,280
overview of the

1843
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,960
aquatic center.

1844
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,800
It's expected to cost $70 million.

1845
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,840
Included in this amount is a

1846
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,920
$3.7 million for a ball ball hockey

1847
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,200
space. Um this project is expected to be

1848
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,320
fully debenture and um

1849
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,600
repayment of that is uh expected to be

1850
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,320
from taxation and DCs.

1851
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,680
Next slide, please.

1852
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,240
So, this is the sports dome um

1853
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,320
$10.5 million uh dollars

1854
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,520
expected to be fully debenture as well

1855
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,040
and um repayment of that to be funded

1856
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,440
from DCs and taxation.

1857
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:30,800
Next slide, please.

1858
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,120
And this is the Beeton Community Centre

1859
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,160
and all three options are presented

1860
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,120
here.

1861
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,400
And um when you go through back the cost

1862
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,720
the consultants just went through the

1863
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,880
cost, but it is expected uh all options

1864
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,440
are expected to be

1865
01:11:44,440 --> 01:11:48,000
um fully debentured and um funded from

1866
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,520
DCs and taxation as well. Soft cost was

1867
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,600
not included in this model um because

1868
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,000
that was not included in the

1869
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,160
consultant's report.

1870
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,510
Next slide, please.

1871
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,200
Um before I move on to the numbers

1872
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,800
slide, just want to give you a little

1873
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,680
bit of a context on annual repayment

1874
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,520
limit or ARL.

1875
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,800
Um this is a provincial legislation. Um

1876
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,840
it is really how much um that the town

1877
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,680
is able to carry on its own source

1878
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:18,760
revenue.

1879
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,800
Um the limit is 25%

1880
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,400
uh that's the the threshold uh the

1881
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,560
legis- legislated limit. Um

1882
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,400
we can in order to be for me to be

1883
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,520
prudent and uh follow best practice, it

1884
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:37,240
is advisable to do um stay within 20% or

1885
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,320
or less.

1886
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,880
Um it's very important to to

1887
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,440
for the town to do that because it

1888
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:44,280
allows flexibility and help us to

1889
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,000
respond to any emergencies.

1890
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:53,110
Next slide, please.

1891
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,440
Um this slide shows a projection of um

1892
01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:58,960
our a comparison of our annual repayment

1893
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:04,280
limit um for the period 2028 to 2035.

1894
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,000
Um the gray line represents um any

1895
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,920
current debt that we have

1896
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,840
and any

1897
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,760
commit- existing planned debts to 2035.

1898
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,080
And as you can see, it's uh it's within

1899
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,800
the range of 14 to 17% ARL, which is

1900
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,160
acceptable

1901
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,520
much lower than our 20% uh threshold.

1902
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,760
And if we factor in

1903
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,920
the three uh proposed recreation

1904
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,760
projects, then we're going to be um over

1905
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:34,560
uh

1906
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,360
over our 20% uh threshold, but below the

1907
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,400
25% uh legislative limit. You can see

1908
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:44,240
it's peaked at offer option one at 22.6%

1909
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,920
and ranging to 23.9

1910
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,910
at option three.

1911
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,360
Next slide, please.

1912
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,200
So, um this slide uh gives a a

1913
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,320
several scenarios here. And the the

1914
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,600
column that I am to focus on is the

1915
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,000
funding relief. It's the very last

1916
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:04,880
column.

1917
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And it is really how much money we will

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need upfront to stay to to put into any

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one of these combinations to stay within

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a 20% threshold.

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So, for example, the if we're going to

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go with the aquatic center and dome the

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and the Beaton Community Center option

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one, that will cost will need to inject

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26 million upfront.

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Option two, it's on 33 and it's

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01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,680
increases to further to 45 million

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dollars if we go with Beaton option

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three and the other two projects.

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Next slide, please.

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So, the the slide uh gives uh

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a picture of the um

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01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,120
estimated tax rates in park in terms of

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01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,440
pro projects per project. So, the

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aquatic and wellness center um is

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,400
expected to be at a 4.59%

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,400
um

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the dome is the lowest at 1.28 and the

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,680
Beaton Community Center ranges from

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,960
option one to 2.81% to option three at a

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:11,470
5.47%.

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Yeah.

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Next slide, please.

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So, this uh this slide um

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presented um

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the

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combination of um what the combination

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01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,080
would be and what the how what what the

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,840
tax burden uh per scenarios and also

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01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,080
what the equivalent tax rate would be.

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01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,040
So, in terms of dollars, if we go with

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,720
the the two project with Beaton option

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01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,080
one, we're looking at a 4.

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01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,400
uh 1 million dollars, which is

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,000
equivalent to an 8% tax increase. And uh

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option two with 4.79 and

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uh

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option three 5.45. That's tax burden

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01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:53,960
equivalent to 11.35%

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tax rate increase.

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Next slide.

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And um I think this is my final slide um

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and this really is a combination of the

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01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,200
other slides just to present it into one

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slide. And it's for each situation each

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,880
scenario uh combination um

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we have the

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01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:16,080
total levy burden, what that would be,

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,640
the equivalent tax rate, and the funding

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relief

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um to stay within our 20% um

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ARL threshold.

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And uh that's it uh for my presentation

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this evening. Thank you for your time.

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Mayor and council.

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>> Thank you very much.

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» Thank you very much.

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So, now we're going to move on to our

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01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,000
registered deputations.

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And up first we have Kelly Summers from

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01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,200
South Simcoe United in reference to the

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01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,960
sports dome. Kelly, would you like to

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,800
come up to the microphone, please?

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Thank you and welcome.

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01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,520
» Hi everybody. Hopefully everybody can

1986
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,760
hear me okay. Good evening, Mr. Mayor

1987
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,280
and members of council. Thank you for

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:57,760
giving me the opportunity. My name is

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01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,640
Kelly Summers and I am the secretary of

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,360
the South Simcoe United FC board. I'm

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:03,520
speaking today in support of the

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01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,920
proposed sports dome project.

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:07,760
SSU has experienced tremendous growth

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01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,240
over the past 2 years, growing from

1995
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,960
approximately 2,400 active registered

1996
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,760
athletes to just under 4,000 today.

1997
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,040
This growth reflects the increased

1998
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,200
demand for youth sports and recreation

1999
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,160
opportunities across NewTec and the

2000
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,360
surrounding area.

2001
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,400
Beyond our athletes, SSU has built a

2002
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,080
much larger community of players,

2003
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,440
parents, guardians, coaches, volunteers,

2004
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:32,200
alumni, supporters, and local residents.

2005
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,840
Today, our club's community reaches

2006
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,240
close to 10,000 people.

2007
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:37,520
While this growth is something we're

2008
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,760
very proud of, it has also highlighted

2009
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,840
an important challenge. Our community's

2010
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,560
recreational infrastructure has just not

2011
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,320
kept pace with demand.

2012
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:46,440
For the first time in our club's

2013
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:48,720
history, growth is no longer limited by

2014
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,120
interest. It's limited by

2015
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,760
infrastructure. Children want to play,

2016
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,680
families want to participate, volunteers

2017
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,880
want to coach. The demand exists, but

2018
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,480
what we lack is the space to support it.

2019
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:01,840
This challenge is most evident during

2020
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,320
the winter months. Our athletes train at

2021
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,400
the NewTec Recreation Centre Fieldhouse,

2022
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,840
and we're grateful to have access to

2023
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,760
that facility, but it simply cannot

2024
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,320
accommodate the size of our program.

2025
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,120
The town's own report confirms that the

2026
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:15,920
facility operates at full capacity

2027
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,160
during prime hours, and SSU accounts for

2028
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,120
the majority of those bookings.

2029
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,800
Outside of scheduling limitations, the

2030
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,520
facility's playing surface is not

2031
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,640
representative of a true soccer pitch,

2032
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,520
and as a result, our players train in an

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01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,000
environment that is considerably

2034
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,480
narrower and shorter than the fields

2035
01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:32,880
that they compete on during the outdoor

2036
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,560
season. This impacts player development,

2037
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,080
tactical awareness, decision-making, and

2038
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080
the ability to properly prepare athletes

2039
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,280
for higher levels of competition.

2040
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,440
Our coaches work very hard to overcome

2041
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:46,600
those limitations, but the reality is

2042
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:47,960
that the current facility was never

2043
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,800
designed to meet the needs of a club of

2044
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,080
our size.

2045
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,880
The proposed FIFA-size sports dome would

2046
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,800
address these challenges directly. It

2047
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,320
would provide year-round training and

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01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,680
competition

2049
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,720
facility capable of supporting current

2050
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,440
demand and also accommodating future

2051
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:03,240
growth that the town's own studies have

2052
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,560
identified.

2053
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,240
In addition, the sports dome would help

2054
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,360
address the growing demand for

2055
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,600
year-round recreational space, providing

2056
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,040
opportunities for local sports

2057
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,040
organizations, schools, and community

2058
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,200
groups to expand their programming and

2059
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,680
better serve residents of all ages.

2060
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,240
Beyond meeting the current needs, the

2061
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:20,880
sports dome would create significant

2062
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,680
benefits for the broader community. It

2063
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,200
would create opportunities for local

2064
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:25,880
tournaments, attract visitors to our

2065
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,480
community, support local businesses, and

2066
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:29,560
provide those recreational

2067
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,160
opportunities.

2068
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,120
The sports dome would also position New

2069
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,040
Tec as a destination for regional and

2070
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,120
provincial sporting events. SSU's

2071
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,120
participation in the provincial indoor

2072
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,040
soccer league, along with other

2073
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,840
competitive programs and tournaments,

2074
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,640
creates opportunities that bring teams,

2075
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,360
players, coaches, and families from

2076
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,880
across Ontario into our community.

2077
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,160
These visitors support local

2078
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,360
restaurants, hotels, gas stations,

2079
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,400
shops, and businesses, while showcasing

2080
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,280
New Tecumseth as a vibrant and growing

2081
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:57,760
municipality.

2082
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,800
Beyond the economic benefits, hosting

2083
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,400
high-level competitions raises the

2084
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,560
profile of our town and provides local

2085
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,360
athletes with opportunities to compete

2086
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,240
and develop close to home.

2087
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,000
This project is not only an investment

2088
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,560
in recreation, it's an investment in

2089
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,200
economic development, community pride,

2090
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,960
and the reputation of our town across

2091
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,280
the province.

2092
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,960
Just as importantly, this project isn't

2093
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,240
simply about soccer. It's also about

2094
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,000
investing in youth development, health

2095
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,080
and wellness, community engagement, and

2096
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:25,880
the future growth of our town.

2097
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,640
Every hour spent on a field is an hour

2098
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,920
not spent in front of a screen.

2099
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,720
It's an hour spent about teamwork,

2100
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,120
discipline, leadership, resilience, and

2101
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,400
community. The Sports Dome isn't simply

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01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:38,480
a building.

2103
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:40,040
It's an investment in thousands of young

2104
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,680
people and the values that we want them

2105
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,440
to carry into adulthood.

2106
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:45,200
As council considers this important

2107
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:46,840
decision, we respectfully ask that the

2108
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,160
needs of the community remain at the

2109
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,560
forefront. This project is bigger than

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01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,840
anyone neighborhood, anyone ward, or any

2111
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,480
individual interest. It's about

2112
01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:58,120
investing in the future of New Tecumseth

2113
01:20:58,120 --> 01:20:59,960
so that our families, our youth, our

2114
01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:01,640
residents have access to the facilities

2115
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,000
that they both need and deserve.

2116
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,760
We hope that when the vote is cast, the

2117
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,760
decision is guided not by short-term

2118
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,680
considerations, but by a long-term

2119
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,000
vision for our community as a whole. The

2120
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,720
responsibility of council is to serve

2121
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,760
all of New Tec. And we believe that this

2122
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,320
project represents an opportunity to

2123
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,320
make a lasting investment that will

2124
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,840
benefit residents for generations.

2125
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,080
20 years from now, nobody's going to

2126
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,040
remember this meeting or the details of

2127
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,360
it. But, they will remember that we

2128
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,400
chose to invest in this community and

2129
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,600
its future. They'll remember whether New

2130
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,320
Tecumseth had the vision to build

2131
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,080
infrastructure to match our growing

2132
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:36,120
town.

2133
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,680
Tonight, you have the opportunity to

2134
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,200
make a decision that will positively

2135
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,520
impact thousands of families, strengthen

2136
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,600
our local economy, elevate the profile

2137
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,800
of New Tecumseth across Ontario, and

2138
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,360
leave a lasting legacy for future

2139
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,680
generations.

2140
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,600
We respectfully ask that you support the

2141
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,400
Sports Dome and help build the future

2142
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,360
that our community deserves.

2143
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:55,560
Thank you very much for giving me your

2144
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,800
time.

2145
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,096
>> Thank you.

2146
01:21:59,096 --> 01:21:59,106
» Thank you.

2147
01:21:59,106 --> 01:22:03,830
>> [applause]

2148
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,720
» I know how tough it is to come up and

2149
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,440
speak at a microphone in front of a lot

2150
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:10,320
of people. Um so, well done. Next is

2151
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,120
Carlo Carlucci, New Tecumseth Ball

2152
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,550
Hockey League.

2153
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:21,150
Or, no.

2154
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,600
You're on Mike, Carlo. You are on my

2155
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,000
list. Is that correct?

2156
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,230
Okay, thank you.

2157
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,160
» After that last speech, I think I want

2158
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,800
to convert to soccer from ball hockey.

2159
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,070
That was well done.

2160
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,080
Um

2161
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:40,720
I guess my understanding is

2162
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:41,840
we're going to have a little 5-minute

2163
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,520
video here.

2164
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,840
And I'll let you watch the video.

2165
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,240
Leave me a minute or two to talk.

2166
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:49,360
So

2167
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,280
without further ado, I guess

2168
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,000
can we queue it up?

2169
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,030
>> I'm sorry, Carl. Is that the video video

2170
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:57,040
» I'm sorry, Carl. Is that the video video

2171
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:57,560
from Bill?

2172
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:58,070
>> Yes.

2173
01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:58,080
» Yes.

2174
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,470
>> Oh, sorry. We thought we could do two

2175
01:22:59,470 --> 01:22:59,480
» Oh, sorry. We thought we could do two

2176
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:01,280
separate things but we can get that.

2177
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:02,710
>> Okay.

2178
01:23:02,710 --> 01:23:02,720
» Okay.

2179
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,190
>> From Bill.

2180
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,920
» Madam, are we good to go or would you

2181
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,400
like to come back? We're good? Okay,

2182
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:24,870
thank you. Go ahead.

2183
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,640
» Welcome to today's explainer. We're

2184
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:32,070
unpacking a really fascinating

2185
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,200
municipal crossroads today. You know,

2186
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,760
town planning often forces residents

2187
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,720
into these tough compromises where

2188
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,160
community needs completely clash with

2189
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,040
strict budgets and limited space. But

2190
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,640
right now, one town's advocates are

2191
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,320
pushing back. We're impartially Beeton's

2192
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:57,470
current redevelopment proposal.

2193
01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:59,080
» I'm going to let everybody kind of sort

2194
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,520
that out and what I'll do is I'll move

2195
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,360
on to Suzanne Howey and we'll come back,

2196
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,160
okay, once we figure out where we're at.

2197
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,000
Uh Suzanne, you wanted to speak in

2198
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,920
regards to the Renegade Derby Dames and

2199
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:15,550
the AMA.

2200
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,960
Welcome.

2201
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,350
>> First off, I'd like to thank council and

2202
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:19,360
» First off, I'd like to thank council and

2203
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:20,880
yourself, Mayor, and everyone in the

2204
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,480
community here to uh

2205
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:24,150
>> You're good to

2206
01:24:24,150 --> 01:24:24,160
» You're good to

2207
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,230
>> Sorry. Uh first, thank you worship your

2208
01:24:26,230 --> 01:24:26,240
» Sorry. Uh first, thank you worship your

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01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:27,960
mayor and council and everyone who's

2210
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,200
come out to support sports in Alliston.

2211
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,320
Um

2212
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,720
the AMA has been the home of the

2213
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,720
Renegade Derby Dames since we began 15

2214
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:36,840
years ago and we understand the

2215
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,280
importance of small arenas in these

2216
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,640
communities.

2217
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,280
I've been an advocate for women's sports

2218
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,080
since I was 13 years old when I joined

2219
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,160
high school or high school rugby. I'm

2220
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:47,720
sorry. I'm not a really good public

2221
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:48,680
speaker, but I was the only one

2222
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,760
available. So, you stick with me.

2223
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,720
So, I joined uh rugby when I was 13

2224
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,240
years old and I played all through high

2225
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,960
school, university, and beyond. Uh since

2226
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,360
then, I have also raced dirt bikes

2227
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:00,880
competitively for 8 years winning

2228
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,920
several provincial championships and for

2229
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,360
the last 11 years, I have had the joy of

2230
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,840
being a member of RDD, Simcoe County's

2231
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,160
only women's flat track derby

2232
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,440
association accredited league. And for

2233
01:25:11,440 --> 01:25:13,040
the last 4 years, I've been honored to

2234
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,560
be a coach for the Simcoe Junior Roller

2235
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,240
Derby League.

2236
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,360
For 12 months, I've been the main person

2237
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,720
in charge of organizing the bookings.

2238
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,760
So, I understand how busy these dry pads

2239
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,480
are. The AMA is the only dry pad in

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01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:26,760
Simcoe County.

2241
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:27,840
It's the only one that's 12 months a

2242
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,200
year, no ice. So, ball hockey and us,

2243
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,000
we're fine in the summer when there's

2244
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:38,640
lots of dry pads, when Beeton is dry. Uh

2245
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:39,880
but we've definitely come together a

2246
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,280
couple times when our events have been

2247
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,600
back-to-back. Um and you know what? We

2248
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,160
understand

2249
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:47,920
the importance of these arenas.

2250
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,480
Just going to take you on a little tour

2251
01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:52,320
of typical Thursday night at uh

2252
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:53,760
at the AMA.

2253
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,360
So, at 6:30, we arrive and the parking

2254
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,440
lot is full. There is a blood services

2255
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:00,120
mobile in the corner and lets us know

2256
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,520
that there's a blood drive going on

2257
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,520
upstairs. These happen about once every

2258
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,120
two or three months and community

2259
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,320
members come in and donate blood for all

2260
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:08,400
of us.

2261
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,000
Uh furthermore, some of those cars

2262
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:11,920
belong to our junior parents and a

2263
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,560
couple of our juniors because Simcoe

2264
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,440
Junior Roller Derby is open from open

2265
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:19,000
for kids 8 to 18 years old.

2266
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,400
Upon entering the arena, you're greeted

2267
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,000
by Alliston's history, two display

2268
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,680
cases, one that honors the athletic

2269
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,040
history and the other that honors the

2270
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,200
military history of this town. Rounding

2271
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:28,720
the corner on the right, you'll see a

2272
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,000
display case given to us, uh RDD, photos

2273
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:33,880
of past and present skaters representing

2274
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,960
Alliston, Ontario, and even Canada

2275
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,520
across the province, country, and

2276
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,640
continent. There are trophies from

2277
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,000
tournaments won in Southern Ontario,

2278
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,680
Northern Ontario, Quebec, and even West

2279
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:45,720
Virginia.

2280
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,640
And MVP awards donated from all of our

2281
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,120
members.

2282
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,960
The surface behind us, as I said, is

2283
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,760
occupied currently by Simcoe Junior

2284
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,640
Roller Derby. Open to kids 9 to 18, this

2285
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,840
league is the inheritor of the Alliston

2286
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,680
Junior Roller Derby League. This has

2287
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,440
skaters trying out for Team Ontario, and

2288
01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:03,760
they travel across the province

2289
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,840
representing Alliston Athletics.

2290
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,600
Here I would love to tell you all the

2291
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,280
amazing stats about the benefits of

2292
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,040
sports for kids, especially girls,

2293
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,560
but we need to get ready. So, we

2294
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,080
continue on our way. We're greeted by

2295
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,840
one of by one of the amazing and helpful

2296
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,560
staff who lets us know that our room is

2297
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,920
ready. Since 2011, they've also given us

2298
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:23,040
a locker.

2299
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:23,920
That's where we keep all of our

2300
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,760
equipment. I get you some equipment, we

2301
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,640
get geared up, and at 7:00 we hit the

2302
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,520
surface our wheels sliding. You hear

2303
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:30,760
someone call out that it's kind of

2304
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,560
slippery and how it's so much easier to

2305
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,640
stop here than other arenas,

2306
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,350
like Tottenham.

2307
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,000
Throughout the 2 hours, time flies, and

2308
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,480
we make new friends, sweat in the June

2309
01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:42,360
heat. You'll hear a veteran skater with

2310
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,160
an image of a Valkyrie on her chest talk

2311
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:45,720
about how back in the day before they

2312
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,640
added heat, we'd skate with oven mitts

2313
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:48,920
on our hands to stay warm, but since

2314
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,520
they've added heat, it's great.

2315
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,480
Even in the summer, we won't complain.

2316
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:54,840
Upstairs, the blood donor clinic is

2317
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,400
wrapping up, and curious donors and

2318
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,240
volunteers peek around the blinds to say

2319
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,640
to wave to us, and we wave back.

2320
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,680
At the end of the 2 hours, we go back to

2321
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,040
the change room, we get undressed. As we

2322
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:06,640
leave, we exit the same way we came in

2323
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,840
and pause for a moment in front of the

2324
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,040
ball hockey case. There's memorial cards

2325
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:11,960
for teenagers

2326
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:16,830
teenagers who were taken too young.

2327
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:17,840
But the moment

2328
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,680
stop from getting too sad.

2329
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,230
>> Oh, you know what? Absolutely fantastic.

2330
01:28:22,230 --> 01:28:22,240
» Oh, you know what? Absolutely fantastic.

2331
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:23,750
>> Stop from getting too sad as a sharp

2332
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:23,760
» Stop from getting too sad as a sharp

2333
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,720
crack from a ball behind us hits the

2334
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,120
glass. It's 9:00 p.m. And there's still

2335
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,600
kids out there on the pad. Ball hockey

2336
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,200
is going in full swing.

2337
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,640
The Alcona Memorial Arena and other

2338
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,440
small community arenas are not vacant

2339
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:36,560
spaces to be repurposed. They're part of

2340
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:37,920
our living community. We need to

2341
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,200
protect, preserve, and continue them so

2342
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,240
that the generations coming after us in

2343
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:43,840
New Tecumseth have places to build

2344
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,680
community as we have. There were

2345
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,240
children learn community

2346
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,200
children learn confidence

2347
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,440
uh where teenagers find belonging and

2348
01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:54,000
adults stay active, build friendships,

2349
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,480
and give back as coaches, volunteers,

2350
01:28:55,480 --> 01:28:57,360
and mentors. These are the places where

2351
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,360
community community organizations

2352
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,400
gather, where local history is honored,

2353
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,480
and memories are made every day.

2354
01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:04,640
When talking about the future of New

2355
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,680
Tecumseth, we often talk about growth,

2356
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,440
and yes, growth is very important, but

2357
01:29:08,440 --> 01:29:10,000
it should not come at the expenses of

2358
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,760
these spaces that are so important to

2359
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,840
our kids and to ourselves. Thank you

2360
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:14,440
very much.

2361
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:15,986
>> Thank you very much.

2362
01:29:15,986 --> 01:29:15,996
» Thank you very much.

2363
01:29:15,996 --> 01:29:22,790
>> [applause]

2364
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,680
» It is really tough to get up in front of

2365
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,040
that microphone, I I tell you, and I

2366
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,800
applaud everybody that has the courage

2367
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,720
to do it. So, thank you.

2368
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,680
Moving on will be Russell Woodward from

2369
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,760
FAB Beeton Community Centre project, and

2370
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,320
I would just like to I know it's been

2371
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,360
said before, but just to reiterate, our

2372
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,200
deputations are a maximum of 7 minutes,

2373
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:43,720
and we do that out of fairness so that

2374
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,720
it spread equally across the board. So,

2375
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,680
Russell, come on up.

2376
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:48,720
Welcome.

2377
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,310
>> Thank you.

2378
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,400
Thank you, council, for taking my

2379
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,320
deputation. Uh not necessarily a user

2380
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:02,160
group. Uh we were an organ- organization

2381
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:03,160
uh

2382
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,680
started to raise money for the

2383
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:06,560
uh

2384
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,400
what we feel will be new community

2385
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,960
center with an ice pad

2386
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,720
back but 15 years ago. So, most of us

2387
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,240
were previous users

2388
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,440
uh and our thoughts were that if we

2389
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:22,560
hadn't raised some money or enough money

2390
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,560
that we could be ready when the time

2391
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,920
comes. So, that's all that's all we are.

2392
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,880
We we're here to promote, you know, the

2393
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,800
use of it, the the existing users. We we

2394
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,920
want it to be inclusive of the existing

2395
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:35,880
users. Plus, we want it to be

2396
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,000
functional, multi-purpose. There's a lot

2397
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,480
of, you know, a lot of variation for for

2398
01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:45,000
new users and and like existing users as

2399
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,400
well. So, so I won't take up much time,

2400
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,320
but uh we're behind the project

2401
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,920
certainly. Uh

2402
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,440
you know, number three I would think is

2403
01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:55,400
our is our goal. So, thank you for your

2404
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:56,720
time.

2405
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,167
>> No, thank

2406
01:30:58,167 --> 01:30:58,177
» No, thank

2407
01:30:58,177 --> 01:31:02,950
>> [applause]

2408
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,440
» Thank you, Russell. And I just want to

2409
01:31:04,440 --> 01:31:06,160
point out to all the user groups and

2410
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,360
those watching at home, these are all

2411
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,680
volunteers who put in a tremendous

2412
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,680
amount of their time effort. So, thank

2413
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,600
you for even volunteering tonight again.

2414
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,440
So, we're going to move on and Abby

2415
01:31:16,440 --> 01:31:18,320
Woodward, Beeton Athletic Association,

2416
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,320
the Cash Draw, which Councillor Mark

2417
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:25,030
Bitson but anyhow, just come on up.

2418
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:29,190
Sorry, Mark.

2419
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,680
Welcome, Abby.

2420
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,270
>> Thank you.

2421
01:31:33,270 --> 01:31:33,280
» Thank you.

2422
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,040
Last time we talked was a very different

2423
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,478
conversation.

2424
01:31:37,478 --> 01:31:37,750
>> [laughter and gasps]

2425
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:37,760
» [laughter and gasps]

2426
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,750
>> Good evening, Mayor Norcross and council

2427
01:31:39,750 --> 01:31:39,760
» Good evening, Mayor Norcross and council

2428
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,240
members. Thank you for giving me the

2429
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,480
opportunity to speak. Um as you know, my

2430
01:31:43,480 --> 01:31:44,920
name is Abby Woodward and I'm the Cash

2431
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,280
Draw chairperson with the Beeton

2432
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,560
Athletic Association and I'm speaking to

2433
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,720
you today on behalf of our event about

2434
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,320
the importance of preserving an indoor

2435
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,280
ice and floor pad in Beeton in future

2436
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,840
recreation development plans.

2437
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,440
Just this past weekend, the Beeton

2438
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:00,360
Athletic Association hosted the return

2439
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,680
of our Cash Draw fundraiser. With more

2440
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,360
than 1,100 attendees, along with dozens

2441
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,240
of volunteers, they came together for an

2442
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,120
event that not only made its triumphant

2443
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,640
resurgence after 7 years, but it was a

2444
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,120
sold-out success.

2445
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,880
The overwhelming support demonstrated

2446
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,920
not only the success of the event, but

2447
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,760
also the growing pride and engagement

2448
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,720
within our community.

2449
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,560
The Cash Draw is about far more than

2450
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,040
hockey. It brings together families,

2451
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,040
local businesses, volunteers, and

2452
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,320
community members from all walks of

2453
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:31,440
life.

2454
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:33,520
Many attendees have no prior or current

2455
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,880
connection to hockey. Some had children

2456
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,840
who played in Beeton more than 20 years

2457
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,200
ago. Yet, they came back to support the

2458
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:41,760
revival of a tradition that has been

2459
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,880
part of this community for generations.

2460
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,480
The event also provided a valuable

2461
01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:48,600
opportunity for our youth. High school

2462
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,080
students earn community involvement

2463
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,640
hours through event preparation and

2464
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,520
volunteer work, with some students

2465
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,120
completing half of their required

2466
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,240
volunteer hours in just the days leading

2467
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,440
up to and during the event.

2468
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:01,400
These experiences teach leadership,

2469
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,360
responsibility, and community service,

2470
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,440
and instill a sense of pride in a way

2471
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:08,280
that cannot be replicated elsewhere.

2472
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,200
The impact of the event extended beyond

2473
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,600
a a single evening. Following the Cash

2474
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,400
Draw, leftover food and supplies were

2475
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,760
donated to Shift, My Sister's Place in

2476
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,480
Alliston, and Our Town Food Bank in

2477
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:20,360
Tottenham, because that is what

2478
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,760
community is all about. Coming together

2479
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,960
not only to support local sport, but

2480
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,400
also to support our neighbors and

2481
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,320
organizations that serve those in need.

2482
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,520
Most importantly, an event of this size

2483
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,080
is only possible because of the

2484
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,560
facilities we currently have. The arena

2485
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,520
floor and hall provide the space,

2486
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,720
accessibility, and separation needed to

2487
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,200
accommodate over a thousand people.

2488
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,400
A gymnasium simply cannot support an

2489
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,600
event of this scale. It lacks the

2490
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,040
capacity, the flexibility required to

2491
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:51,160
host an event like the Cash Draw, and it

2492
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:52,920
does not provide the separate spaces

2493
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,120
that allow all attendees to participate

2494
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,000
comfortably.

2495
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,960
The atmosphere inside the arena that

2496
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,800
night was incredible.

2497
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:02,440
Seeing our barn full again was a

2498
01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:04,520
powerful reminder of what makes Beeton

2499
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:05,720
special.

2500
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,760
The spirit, energy, and sense of

2501
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,160
belonging were undeniable.

2502
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,160
Past and present Stingers families stood

2503
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,720
alongside residents who have never

2504
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,560
played or had children in hockey, all

2505
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,640
united by a desire to support local

2506
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:20,575
minor hockey in their community.

2507
01:34:20,575 --> 01:34:20,830
>> [snorts]

2508
01:34:20,830 --> 01:34:20,840
» [snorts]

2509
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,510
>> To remove an indoor ice and floor pad

2510
01:34:22,510 --> 01:34:22,520
» To remove an indoor ice and floor pad

2511
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,440
from Beeton would not simply be the loss

2512
01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:26,560
of a recreation facility. It would be

2513
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,560
the loss of a gathering place, a

2514
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,880
volunteer hub, a fundraising venue, and

2515
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,880
a cornerstone of community traditions

2516
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,360
that have been built over decades.

2517
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,240
It would be dismantling the very space

2518
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,320
that allows events like the Cash Draw to

2519
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,200
exist and thrive.

2520
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,000
It would mean the removal of the very

2521
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,240
heart of our community.

2522
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,320
I strongly urge council to recognize

2523
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,240
that design option three is the only

2524
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,000
adequate choice being proposed to you

2525
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,120
tonight.

2526
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,280
An arena is more than ice. It is where

2527
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,360
traditions are built, where young people

2528
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,600
learn to give back, where volunteers

2529
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:00,280
come together, and where a community

2530
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,240
gathers to celebrate what makes Beeton

2531
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:03,560
unique.

2532
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,280
To remove an indoor ice and floor pad

2533
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:06,920
from Beeton would not be planning for

2534
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,120
the future. It would be dismantling

2535
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,560
traditions that generations of residents

2536
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,720
worked tirelessly to build.

2537
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,896
Thank you.

2538
01:35:16,906 --> 01:35:24,790
» [applause]

2539
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,280
» Thank

2540
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,400
Thank you, Abby. Next is Mark Shaw,

2541
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,200
Beeton Athletic Association, Beeton

2542
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:31,880
Stingers, for the Beeton Community

2543
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,440
Centre project.

2544
01:35:33,440 --> 01:35:35,440
Welcome.

2545
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:37,070
>> Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Norcross,

2546
01:35:37,070 --> 01:35:37,080
» Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Norcross,

2547
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:38,680
and members of council.

2548
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,960
I'm Mark Shaw, and I'm here tonight as

2549
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,520
the president of the Beeton Athletic

2550
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,960
Association, representing our executive

2551
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,760
and our membership. I want to thank you

2552
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:46,920
for the opportunity to speak with you

2553
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,840
tonight about the future of the Beeton

2554
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:50,720
Community Centre.

2555
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,480
Uh the Beeton Memorial Arena, as you've

2556
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:54,200
heard so far, is more than just a

2557
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,280
building.

2558
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,520
Uh, it's where our children come to

2559
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,840
play, where they come to learn. Uh,

2560
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,120
lifelong friendships are formed.

2561
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,560
Uh, it's where our volunteers spend

2562
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,040
countless hours giving back to our

2563
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:05,200
community.

2564
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,960
And it's where generations of families

2565
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,240
have gathered long before I was a member

2566
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,760
of this association.

2567
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:13,280
Uh, this past season saw one of our most

2568
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,960
successful seasons ever, bringing home

2569
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,520
seven championships across all of our

2570
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:19,800
age groups.

2571
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,760
It's a history that dates back over 75

2572
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:22,800
years.

2573
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,000
Uh, where the BAA has called the arena

2574
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:25,960
home,

2575
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:27,680
this arena our home.

2576
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,800
Uh, Beeton hockey in Beeton dates back

2577
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,680
even further than that to the late

2578
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,080
1800s. The arena itself was built

2579
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,920
through the efforts of this community,

2580
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,560
and it stands as a testament to what

2581
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,840
local residents can accomplish when they

2582
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,240
come together around a shared vision.

2583
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:43,840
Today, council is considering what comes

2584
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,600
next. And for the BAA, that answer is

2585
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,240
clear. We support option three as the

2586
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,480
preferred path forward. It's the option

2587
01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:53,440
that best represents the needs of our

2588
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:55,680
association and our community for the

2589
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,000
future.

2590
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:58,920
Since 2020, participation in BAA

2591
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,400
programs has increased by over 90%.

2592
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:03,920
For the upcoming season, registration

2593
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,600
rates have already surpassed last year's

2594
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,240
numbers, and we expect additional growth

2595
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:09,840
and additional teams

2596
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,840
in the future. This growth is not just

2597
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:14,040
unique to our association. Council and

2598
01:37:14,040 --> 01:37:15,480
town staff have heard clearly that

2599
01:37:15,480 --> 01:37:17,400
participation is growing in our

2600
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,280
community. And your own planning

2601
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,160
documents continue

2602
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,040
anticipate that continued growth for

2603
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,680
recreation services.

2604
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,440
We have seen firsthand what happens when

2605
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:29,640
the arena capacity is unavailable.

2606
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,000
During the temporary closure of the

2607
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,760
arena in 23-24, user groups were

2608
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,360
displaced and struggled to find

2609
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,400
sufficient ice within the town and

2610
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,840
private rentals. Existing capacity for

2611
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,400
prime ice is already stretched, and if

2612
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,520
demand exceeds supply, then it will

2613
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:45,720
continue

2614
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,400
uh be challenging as our population

2615
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,160
continues to grow.

2616
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:50,880
A replacement community center without

2617
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,080
an arena floor and ice pad does not

2618
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,160
replace the Beeton Memorial Arena. It

2619
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,320
removes a core component of recreation

2620
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,600
infrastructure and services that serve

2621
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:01,960
thousands of residents every year.

2622
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,360
The arena supports hockey, figure

2623
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,400
skating, public skating, adult leagues,

2624
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,400
school programs, tournaments, community

2625
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,560
events. It provides opportunities for

2626
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,600
children, families, seniors, and

2627
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,160
volunteers to be active and stay

2628
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,720
connected. Option three is the only

2629
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,240
option before council that maintains

2630
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,840
those services for future generations.

2631
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,720
It's critical community infrastructure.

2632
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,920
I would also respectfully suggest that

2633
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:26,280
the community has been discussing the

2634
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:28,600
replacement of this facility for a long

2635
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:29,680
time.

2636
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,600
Studies have been completed,

2637
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,720
uh consultations have been held, options

2638
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,040
have been reviewed, and many mem- many

2639
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,720
members of this community have

2640
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,120
participated in good faith in those

2641
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,120
discussions over many years.

2642
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:43,960
Uh over $300,000 has already been

2643
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,440
raised, which represents a commitment uh

2644
01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:47,920
from this community.

2645
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,320
So, our position is clear. We're asking

2646
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,920
council to select option three. It is

2647
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,480
the only option that maintains an arena

2648
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:54,880
capacity and preserves the level of

2649
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,920
recreation service that residents of

2650
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,480
Beeton enjoy today,

2651
01:38:58,480 --> 01:39:00,360
and that's necessary to sustain our

2652
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,000
organization.

2653
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:03,640
Option one and two are largely addressed

2654
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,600
by plans presented this evening,

2655
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:09,040
specifically the expansion of the NTRC.

2656
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,880
Second, if option three proceeds, we ask

2657
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,360
that local user groups be provided fair

2658
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:15,200
and equitable access to replace ice

2659
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,160
allocations during

2660
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,440
the renovation and the construction.

2661
01:39:19,440 --> 01:39:20,520
We understand that these things take

2662
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,320
time, and we worked well together during

2663
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,160
the closure in '23-'24.

2664
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:27,120
I will say if, and that's a strong if,

2665
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,840
option three is not selected, uh we ask

2666
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:31,120
council

2667
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:33,640
uh to provide certainty to the

2668
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,640
community. We're requesting a clear

2669
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:37,920
timeline, funding strategy, and

2670
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,520
implementation plan for the replacement

2671
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,080
of arena capacity in Beeton.

2672
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,040
And given the investments

2673
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,680
uh that have been made over the last few

2674
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,600
years with the roof and the lighting and

2675
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,600
the uh chiller equipment of the BMA,

2676
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:52,960
we're asking that the existing Beeton

2677
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,400
Memorial Arena remain operational until

2678
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:56,920
replacement capacity is approved and

2679
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,120
scheduled for construction within the

2680
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,040
Beeton settlement boundary. Without a

2681
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:02,520
clear commitment,

2682
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,440
we risk this decision continuing to be

2683
01:40:04,440 --> 01:40:05,600
delayed

2684
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,680
uh for future council members and future

2685
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,320
residents to to handle uh the challenge

2686
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:11,840
that we've been facing now for over 15

2687
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:12,960
years.

2688
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,200
The people of Beeton deserve that

2689
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:15,360
clarity.

2690
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:17,480
Um and uh

2691
01:40:17,480 --> 01:40:19,080
and they deserve assurance that a

2692
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,720
replacement facility will be built by

2693
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,480
this community and remain a priority.

2694
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:25,840
Uh just last weekend, as you heard by

2695
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,560
Abby, 1,100 members of our community

2696
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,760
vol- and volunteers and sponsors uh

2697
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:32,520
attended our castra.

2698
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:33,929
The arena was full um

2699
01:40:33,929 --> 01:40:34,150
>> [snorts]

2700
01:40:34,150 --> 01:40:34,160
» [snorts]

2701
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,350
>> because this building continues to serve

2702
01:40:36,350 --> 01:40:36,360
» because this building continues to serve

2703
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:37,800
as a gathering place and bring people

2704
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:38,840
together.

2705
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,400
Council has the opportunity to make a

2706
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,280
decision that will serve residents not

2707
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:43,480
just for the next few years, but for

2708
01:40:43,480 --> 01:40:45,160
generations to come.

2709
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,560
So, on behalf of the Beeton Athletic

2710
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,440
Association and the families that we

2711
01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:50,720
represent, I thank you for your time and

2712
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,080
your service to the community. Thank

2713
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,879
you.

2714
01:40:54,889 --> 01:41:02,030
» [applause]

2715
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,280
» Thank you. Next on my list is Donna Horn

2716
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,480
from TNT Hockey.

2717
01:41:07,480 --> 01:41:08,720
In regards to the Beeton Community

2718
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:10,400
Centre project. Welcome, Donna. You're

2719
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,760
all You're no stranger to being here.

2720
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,160
You're no stranger to being up here.

2721
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,430
>> Turn this on? There we go.

2722
01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:17,440
» Turn this on? There we go.

2723
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:20,520
Okay, my focus tonight is ice. First of

2724
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,160
all, I'd like to say that uh all the

2725
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:26,400
deputations have been fantastic. Uh

2726
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,560
I think everybody has a lot of heart and

2727
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,560
passion for the community and for the

2728
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:32,720
youth.

2729
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,120
Um

2730
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,160
but because I'm president of TNT, I'm

2731
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,520
here about the ice.

2732
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,400
First of all, the Alliston Memorial

2733
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,640
Arena and the Beeton Memorial Arena

2734
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,040
should not be torn down or should be

2735
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,560
gotten rid of. The history

2736
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,560
behind both those facilities and um

2737
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,040
the hard work and dedication that went

2738
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,840
into build those facilities from the

2739
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:01,080
community, there's a lot of long-time

2740
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:04,360
families in the community and they

2741
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,280
remember when those things were built

2742
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:08,760
and what happened.

2743
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,160
Um both floors can be used for ball

2744
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,640
hockey. Uh

2745
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,440
they are being used now, but if you took

2746
01:42:16,440 --> 01:42:18,480
the ice out of Beeton, it could be used

2747
01:42:18,480 --> 01:42:20,560
full-time there, too.

2748
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,120
Um

2749
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:25,880
I was in Beeton a week or so ago and it

2750
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,720
looked great. It's been well looked

2751
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,720
after and maintained and yes, it is an

2752
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,600
old facility like Alliston, but they

2753
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,240
both look

2754
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,600
very good. And also the um

2755
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:42,080
the halls where people can rent for

2756
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,480
facilities for parties and stuff. We

2757
01:42:44,480 --> 01:42:46,760
don't have any place in the town

2758
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:47,880
that

2759
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,960
we can do that. I realize we're the town

2760
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,400
of New Tecumseth, but each community, as

2761
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:55,560
you know,

2762
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:58,120
um take a lot of pride in their own

2763
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:01,240
community as well as the whole town.

2764
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,120
So, sometimes when we get talking about

2765
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:07,200
what we have to do, it doesn't always

2766
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:11,040
uh suit certain people or

2767
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:12,120
um

2768
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:14,880
maybe there's a misunderstanding.

2769
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,800
After listening to everything tonight,

2770
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:18,960
uh

2771
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,080
we're going to have a conflict with ice.

2772
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,000
There's no doubt about it.

2773
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,200
And if everything goes through that you

2774
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,640
guys are talking about,

2775
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:32,080
I would suggest that the third pad in

2776
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,840
New Tecumseth become the real third pad

2777
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,840
like it was intended to.

2778
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,680
And at least we would have that pad

2779
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,360
to continue on our hockey

2780
01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:44,800
until you decide what you're going to do

2781
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,200
with Blenheim.

2782
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,960
I think the what they've proposed for

2783
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,920
Blenheim is is good and it saves the

2784
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,440
community and the heritage,

2785
01:43:54,440 --> 01:43:56,000
but I think you should be looking at a

2786
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,760
new double pad for Blenheim out in one

2787
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,280
of the um

2788
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,520
new subdivisions.

2789
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,800
As everyone knows, a single pad loses

2790
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:05,840
money.

2791
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,520
A twin pad will run pretty much even and

2792
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,880
a third pad will make you money.

2793
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,040
So,

2794
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,280
just to replace Blenheim ice with

2795
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,280
another ice pad

2796
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,480
really doesn't help our ice situation.

2797
01:44:21,480 --> 01:44:25,240
As uh stated here, we're growing,

2798
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,080
Blenheim's growing, girls hockey's

2799
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:28,200
growing.

2800
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,120
We're short of ice now, let alone

2801
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,400
take one of the pads out and you're

2802
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:38,320
talking about no ice until 2036.

2803
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:41,400
That just can't happen because

2804
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,080
we just won't be able to service the

2805
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,560
community. And as far as renting other

2806
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:46,640
ice,

2807
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:51,992
somebody should try and do that.

2808
01:44:52,002 --> 01:44:53,120
» [applause]

2809
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:54,430
>> It's

2810
01:44:54,430 --> 01:44:54,440
» It's

2811
01:44:54,440 --> 01:44:56,120
it's impossible. We have other

2812
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:59,200
communities using our ice right now.

2813
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,840
Caledon, some of the other places. No,

2814
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,640
it's it's not feasible.

2815
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:08,120
We are short of ice now and you take out

2816
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,200
Blenheim and reconstruct it and you tell

2817
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:12,760
us we're not going to have ice till 30

2818
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,760
or 36,

2819
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:16,480
then you're going to have an awful lot

2820
01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:19,320
of very upset kids out there, I'll tell

2821
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:21,560
you, because we're right to the borders

2822
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:22,520
now.

2823
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:23,760
And uh

2824
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,280
to suggest that we take a one of the ice

2825
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,160
pads out of uh

2826
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,480
commission just won't work.

2827
01:45:30,480 --> 01:45:34,000
So, we have to take a really close look

2828
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,920
at how we're going to do it, when we're

2829
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:37,960
going to do it, what we're going to do

2830
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,680
to make sure that

2831
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:44,160
the community, the youth, and

2832
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,000
everyone else that uses the ice, I'm

2833
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,920
speaking for hockey, but there's all

2834
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:49,640
kinds of other ices

2835
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:50,840
uses

2836
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,840
will have the facilities they need.

2837
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,430
Um

2838
01:45:56,440 --> 01:45:59,800
The other thing is the parking.

2839
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,080
At At New Glasgow Rec Center right now,

2840
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,520
if the Hornets are in the playoffs or if

2841
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:09,040
TNT's in the playoffs,

2842
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:11,280
the parking lot is full. They're parking

2843
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,480
out on the street. So, now you're going

2844
01:46:13,480 --> 01:46:15,760
to put in a pool and these other

2845
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,560
facilities, and they said, "Well, we'll

2846
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,080
keep the parking the same." Well, that's

2847
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:22,520
not going to cut it. You're going to

2848
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,960
have people parking down the sides of

2849
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,240
the road, everywhere. And the same thing

2850
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,720
with Trenton. If you try and cram a

2851
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:31,840
whole bunch of stuff into that what's

2852
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,240
left in Trenton, where are they going to

2853
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,640
park?

2854
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,240
I mean, and I don't think building a

2855
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,960
twin pad

2856
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,240
in one of the new subdivisions is a bad

2857
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,880
thing. Some people say about walking.

2858
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,280
Well, when we built New Glasgow Rec

2859
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:48,800
Center, we were out in the middle of a

2860
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,200
field, and everybody worried about how

2861
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,840
the older people would get to the rink.

2862
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,120
They got to the rink, no problems. We

2863
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,920
provided some buses, we provided some

2864
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,360
shuttles, and now it's not even a

2865
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,080
question.

2866
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,000
So, um

2867
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,920
I hope that

2868
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,080
you take all the deputations

2869
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:13,080
seriously and you really think and talk

2870
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:15,480
to the user groups before you make any

2871
01:47:15,480 --> 01:47:17,680
solid decisions. Thank you for your

2872
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:18,320
time.

2873
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:19,369
>> Thank you, Donna.

2874
01:47:19,369 --> 01:47:19,379
» Thank you, Donna.

2875
01:47:19,379 --> 01:47:25,910
>> [applause]

2876
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,840
» And then the last we had on our list was

2877
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,760
the presentation. Are we ready to go

2878
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,710
with that video?

2879
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,910
We are? Okay.

2880
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:45,510
Yeah, go ahead, please.

2881
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,280
» explainer. Because we are looking at a

2882
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,040
really fascinating strategic

2883
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,880
opportunity. We're talking about a

2884
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,000
single municipal renovation that

2885
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,040
perfectly bridges an immediate community

2886
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,200
need with a massive 20-year

2887
01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,280
infrastructure vision. So, we're going

2888
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,440
to unpack the New Tecumseth Ball Hockey

2889
01:48:01,440 --> 01:48:04,040
League's master plan and see exactly how

2890
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:06,360
one specific, really clever facility

2891
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,760
swap can basically secure two solid

2892
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,880
decades of community sports.

2893
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:12,440
Here is the agenda for our explainer

2894
01:48:12,440 --> 01:48:13,960
today. We'll quickly run through the

2895
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:16,320
20-year facility road map, the two-pad

2896
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:19,080
minimum policy, the NTRC renovation

2897
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:20,880
opportunity, the technical fit and

2898
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,000
timeline, and wrap up with securing

2899
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,040
immediate system stability. Let's get to

2900
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:28,160
it. All right, section one, the 20-year

2901
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,360
facility road map. Let's start with the

2902
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,600
macro-level view. So, we're looking at

2903
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,880
an official five-phase chronological

2904
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,720
plan that stretches all the way from

2905
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,880
2026 to 2040. And the core mission here

2906
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,040
is a bit of a juggling act. The town has

2907
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:43,640
to maintain its seasonal recreational

2908
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:45,440
spaces, but at the same time,

2909
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:47,560
aggressively establish year-round dry

2910
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,000
pads. Because as older arenas start

2911
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:51,840
aging out of the system, this road map

2912
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,680
calculates exactly how to overlap those

2913
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,280
facility life cycles. The goal, making

2914
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:57,560
sure that thousands of local

2915
01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,440
participants, families, and youth

2916
01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:01,440
athletes literally never lose their

2917
01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:03,400
place to play. And that brings us to

2918
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,400
this one, absolutely non-negotiable

2919
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,480
guiding principle. It anchors the whole

2920
01:49:07,480 --> 01:49:10,080
20-year road map. Never allow a facility

2921
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,360
transition to create a dry pad capacity

2922
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,680
deficit. It's a simple rule, right? But

2923
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:16,480
it dictates every single strategic move

2924
01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:18,680
from here on out. You simply cannot tear

2925
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,560
down or repurpose an old facility until

2926
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,120
the new one is fully online and ready to

2927
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,200
go. It's all about protecting community

2928
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,200
assets and making sure residents never

2929
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:27,880
face a blackout period.

2930
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,280
Moving right along to section two, the

2931
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,840
two-pad minimum policy. This is the

2932
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,680
absolute baseline. Two is the magic

2933
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:37,600
number here. The paramount goal is to

2934
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,800
permanently guarantee a minimum of two

2935
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,120
full-time year-round dry pads across New

2936
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:44,000
Tecumseth. And this isn't just about

2937
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:45,600
keeping things the way they are today,

2938
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,360
it's about looking ahead. The town's

2939
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,280
official plan is forecasting a massive

2940
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:51,160
population surge, which is expected to

2941
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,200
peak between 2035 and 2040. So, locking

2942
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:55,840
in this two-pad minimum is really the

2943
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,600
only way to support current membership

2944
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,240
while absorbing all that explosive

2945
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,000
expected growth. Without it, the

2946
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:02,320
community's recreational system would

2947
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,400
completely buckle. Which brings us to

2948
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,520
section three, the NTRC renovation

2949
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:08,640
opportunity. Let's zoom in on a very

2950
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:14,590
practical solution.

2951
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,440
As part of the broader draft recreation,

2952
01:50:16,440 --> 01:50:18,400
culture, and library action plan, a

2953
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,240
really concrete, immediate opportunity

2954
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,080
has popped up. There's a proposal to

2955
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:23,600
renovate the current New Tecumseth

2956
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,560
Recreation Centre, the NTRC Fieldhouse.

2957
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:28,160
Now, right now, local soccer programs

2958
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:30,120
use this space year-round, but the idea

2959
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:31,760
is to fundamentally rebuild this space

2960
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:33,600
to perfectly suit the specific needs of

2961
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:35,000
a dedicated year-round ball hockey

2962
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:36,800
facility. It's a super targeted

2963
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,240
repurposing of an existing municipal

2964
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,200
footprint, which is incredibly smart.

2965
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,440
It's way more efficient than building a

2966
01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:43,080
brand new facility from scratch, it

2967
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:44,800
saves a ton of time, and it makes great

2968
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,680
use of taxpayer funds.

2969
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:48,640
Okay, section four, technical fit and

2970
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,440
timeline. Let's look at the actual

2971
01:50:50,440 --> 01:50:52,520
logistics of making this happen. So, the

2972
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:54,360
league actively reviewed the preliminary

2973
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:55,720
concepts for this space, and they

2974
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,160
confirmed it is a perfect fit. The

2975
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,120
absolute standout feature, it operates

2976
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,400
in a climate-controlled environment.

2977
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,480
That is a massive upgrade for year-round

2978
01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:06,640
play. Beyond that, the site has

2979
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:08,760
fantastic parking, and critically, it's

2980
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:10,440
really close to the existing Alliston

2981
01:51:10,440 --> 01:51:13,200
Memorial Arena, the AMA. Having those

2982
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,680
two facilities in such close proximity

2983
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,600
makes it the ultimate primary hub for

2984
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:19,680
running large regional tournaments. It's

2985
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:21,760
a strategic game-changer.

2986
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,400
But, here is the real strategic

2987
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,000
masterstroke when presenting this to

2988
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,000
council. This ball hockey facility is

2989
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,240
framed entirely as an independent

2990
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,760
initiative. That is absolutely crucial.

2991
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:33,040
It means it doesn't have to get bogged

2992
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:34,800
down by the massive budget debates or

2993
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:36,800
the super long timelines of the broader

2994
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,720
aquatic and wellness center project.

2995
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:40,240
Advancing it separately means we can

2996
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,200
deliver it to the community much, much

2997
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,440
earlier. It's a highly efficient, very

2998
01:51:44,440 --> 01:51:46,600
quick win for the town.

2999
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:47,800
To actually pull this off though, we

3000
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:49,800
have to follow a very clear domino

3001
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,720
effect. As perfect as the NTRC

3002
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,600
Fieldhouse is, you obviously can't just

3003
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,520
kick soccer out. The whole timeline

3004
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,240
hinges on a new sports dome being built

3005
01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,680
first. So, step one, council constructs

3006
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,760
the dome, which takes roughly 12 to 18

3007
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,120
months. Step two, soccer seamlessly

3008
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,160
relocates over to their brand new home.

3009
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:07,840
And finally, step three, that newly

3010
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,600
vacant fieldhouse is converted into the

3011
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:11,440
ball hockey hub over the next 6 to 12

3012
01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:13,280
months. It's a beautifully orchestrated

3013
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:15,280
shuffle that maximizes the town's space

3014
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,640
without displacing anybody. Finally,

3015
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,280
section five, securing immediate system

3016
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,600
stability. Let's zoom back out and look

3017
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:24,520
at the big picture. By acting on the

3018
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,720
NTRC right now, the town is basically

3019
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:28,760
building an immediate operational safety

3020
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:29,800
net.

3021
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,400
You secure the near term by running the

3022
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,800
newly renovated NTRC right alongside the

3023
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:35,800
aging, but still essential, Alliston

3024
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:37,120
Memorial Arena.

3025
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:38,640
That locks in the required two pads

3026
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:39,640
today.

3027
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:41,600
It absorbs all that immediate pressure,

3028
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,400
which means the much more complex

3029
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,000
long-term vision, like building the

3030
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:46,760
brand new Beeton Community Centre, can

3031
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,800
proceed completely safely on its own

3032
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,360
separate timeline without holding the

3033
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:52,320
entire league hostage. Because this

3034
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:54,680
single pragmatic move triggers a massive

3035
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:56,920
systemic impact. The master plan

3036
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,600
actually reveals that in 2029, active

3037
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,040
construction in Beeton is going to

3038
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,160
create a total blackout year where no

3039
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,520
pad is available there. If the NTRC

3040
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,480
isn't fully online by then, the whole

3041
01:53:07,480 --> 01:53:09,240
system essentially collapses into a

3042
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,520
massive capacity deficit. Getting the

3043
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,200
NTRC done before 2029 completely

3044
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:16,040
prevents that blackout. It ensures

3045
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,880
thousands of locals aren't displaced,

3046
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,320
and it saves the town from having to

3047
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,400
make rushed, panicked compromises later

3048
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,640
on. It's just really smart, proactive

3049
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,440
planning. And that leaves us with a

3050
01:53:25,440 --> 01:53:27,520
pretty compelling question as we wrap up

3051
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:29,840
today's explainer. In the complex world

3052
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:31,840
of municipal planning, we are always

3053
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,760
looking for that one domino that sets

3054
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,240
everything else up for success, right?

3055
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,160
So, is securing this functional,

3056
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:40,760
climate-controlled NTRC solution today

3057
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,560
the exact step needed to confidently

3058
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,040
unlock the entire, ambitious 20-year

3059
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,720
road map? When you really look at the

3060
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,520
efficiency, the demographics, and the

3061
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:50,520
timeline, it certainly seems like this

3062
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,400
single renovation is the keystone to the

3063
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,240
whole puzzle. What do you think? Thanks

3064
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:55,880
for joining me on this deep dive. I hope

3065
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,120
this gave you a crystal-clear

3066
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:58,840
understanding of the blueprint for New

3067
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:06,270
Takoma Park's recreational future.

3068
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,120
» And if anybody doesn't If anybody

3069
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:09,720
doesn't realize whose voice that was, it

3070
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:11,160
was Carlo.

3071
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,600
Also, Carlo, you've got a minute left on

3072
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:13,800
your presentation if you'd like to go

3073
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,710
ahead.

3074
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,160
» Uh in support of having the soccer dome

3075
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,440
created in order to move

3076
01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:23,680
um over to the field house in order to

3077
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:24,880
open up

3078
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:25,960
what we've always wanted, which is a

3079
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:27,800
dedicated ball hockey rink. And as

3080
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,480
mentioned, climate-controlled, but the

3081
01:54:29,480 --> 01:54:31,080
thing that wasn't mentioned, and most

3082
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,520
importantly to us, is we can control the

3083
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:35,200
size of the pad,

3084
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,640
which has always been an ongoing battle

3085
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,080
with the situation in Wheaton and the

3086
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:40,400
ice hockey rink.

3087
01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:42,680
So, that alleviates that concern.

3088
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:44,120
I think you're going to appease the two

3089
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,440
largest membership groups. Soccer's

3090
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:49,120
already mentioned 3,900 members.

3091
01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:51,000
I have 1,800 members, but we operate

3092
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:52,720
year-round, so it's really about 4,000

3093
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:54,880
registrations during a year.

3094
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:58,120
So, I think uh financially, it's the two

3095
01:54:58,120 --> 01:54:59,400
probably

3096
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,320
uh least expensive expenses for the town

3097
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,200
by uh doing these two things

3098
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,280
and appeasing the two biggest user

3099
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:09,480
groups. And the last thing,

3100
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,280
a reminder, when it comes to our user

3101
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,120
group and our sport,

3102
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,600
95% of the residents that are on the

3103
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,080
floor are from New Tecumseth,

3104
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,320
not from outside.

3105
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:21,880
That's it. Thank you.

3106
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:23,419
>> Thank you very much.

3107
01:55:23,419 --> 01:55:23,429
» Thank you very much.

3108
01:55:23,429 --> 01:55:27,070
>> [applause]

3109
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,600
» Okay, I now have 6:53. I'm going to

3110
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,320
adjourn till 7:00 cuz I I know we we got

3111
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:33,760
to move on to the next section we have

3112
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,960
to discuss, debate, and make a decision.

3113
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:37,800
So, the bathrooms are right out here in

3114
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:39,120
the hallways. If anybody would like to

3115
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,040
use them, just go around the corner, and

3116
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:42,320
I would ask for everybody to back at

3117
01:55:42,320 --> 01:58:54,750
7:00, please.

3118
01:58:54,760 --> 02:09:16,790
» Mhm.

3119
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:19,800
» is yours, so go ahead, sir.

3120
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:21,880
Or I'm not sure how it

3121
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:23,480
Go look at the clerk, please.

3122
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:25,510
>> Okay.

3123
02:09:25,510 --> 02:09:25,520
» Okay.

3124
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:26,790
>> There you go.

3125
02:09:26,790 --> 02:09:26,800
» There you go.

3126
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,350
>> Hi, I'm Bill Houston. Thank you, uh, Mr.

3127
02:09:29,350 --> 02:09:29,360
» Hi, I'm Bill Houston. Thank you, uh, Mr.

3128
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:31,320
Mayor and Council. Got a quick little

3129
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:33,920
video here to spin for you, which view,

3130
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:34,760
um,

3131
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:36,760
share our viewpoint from New Tec Ball

3132
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:39,040
Hockey and also myself, uh, being a

3133
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:41,040
resident of Beeton and the rest of the

3134
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:42,840
community.

3135
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:43,600
Thank you.

3136
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:45,270
>> Welcome to today's explainer. We're

3137
02:09:45,270 --> 02:09:45,280
» Welcome to today's explainer. We're

3138
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:47,480
unpacking a really fascinating municipal

3139
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:49,800
crossroads today. You know, town

3140
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:51,760
planning often forces residents into

3141
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,160
these tough compromises, where community

3142
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:55,840
needs completely clash with strict

3143
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:57,880
budgets and limited space. But right

3144
02:09:57,880 --> 02:10:00,080
now, one town's advocates are pushing

3145
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:01,000
back.

3146
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:02,800
We're impartially analyzing Beeton's

3147
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:04,440
current redevelopment proposals for

3148
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:06,560
their aging arena, putting them side by

3149
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:08,320
side with a paradigm-shifting new

3150
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:09,960
proposal from local sports

3151
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,040
organizations. They're aiming to prove

3152
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:13,920
that, well, you just don't always have

3153
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:15,360
to choose.

3154
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:17,120
Here's our road map. We'll briefly

3155
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,160
examine the Beeton recreation dilemma,

3156
02:10:19,160 --> 02:10:21,240
evaluate the town's current proposals,

3157
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:23,280
introduce the highly anticipated fourth

3158
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:25,920
option, explore its multi-use features,

3159
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:27,720
and finally break down the strategic

3160
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,360
investment. All right, let's jump right

3161
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:32,880
into part one, the Beaton Recreation

3162
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,240
Dilemma.

3163
02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:36,400
So, the urgent context here centers

3164
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,880
around the Beaton Memorial Arena. Built

3165
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:41,320
way back in 1947, it's officially

3166
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:43,440
nearing the end of its useful life.

3167
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:45,080
Recent structural failures actually

3168
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:46,440
forced the town into short-term

3169
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:48,520
stabilization mode, so doing nothing is

3170
02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:50,720
absolutely impossible at this point.

3171
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:52,640
But, residents feel trapped in a deeply

3172
02:10:52,640 --> 02:10:55,040
frustrating false dilemma. The town's

3173
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:56,520
initial options left the community

3174
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,920
feeling completely cornered, asked to

3175
02:10:58,920 --> 02:11:00,200
choose between a community center

3176
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:02,240
without a sports rink or a single-use

3177
02:11:02,240 --> 02:11:03,800
arena without community gathering

3178
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,440
spaces. This either/or scenario really

3179
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:08,440
threatens to fracture the town, forcing

3180
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:09,920
neighbors to essentially pit youth

3181
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:12,400
sports against seniors programs. Nobody

3182
02:11:12,400 --> 02:11:14,000
wants to see that happen.

3183
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,360
Moving on to part two, let's evaluate

3184
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:18,760
the current options on the table. Let's

3185
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:20,880
start by deconstructing

3186
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:22,800
options one and two. Now, while these

3187
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:24,880
models do provide gymnasiums, local

3188
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,600
advocates point out a really glaring

3189
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:28,960
gap. They entirely abandon the town's

3190
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:30,840
massive ball hockey and winter ice

3191
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:33,440
community by ditching a new rink.

3192
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:35,160
To compensate, documents show the town

3193
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:37,080
might try to temporarily keep the old

3194
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:39,640
failing arena open. But, and this is a

3195
02:11:39,640 --> 02:11:42,280
huge but, that strategy hides a shocking

3196
02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:45,160
$15.7 million capital cost over the next

3197
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:47,120
10 years. It's literally like pouring

3198
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:49,000
millions into a totaled car just to keep

3199
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:50,960
it running for a few more miles. It's an

3200
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:53,000
incredibly unsustainable financial drain

3201
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:54,480
just to keep the lights on in a building

3202
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:56,760
that's past its prime. So, to avoid that

3203
02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:59,400
trap, the town considered option three.

3204
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:01,360
It protects a rink, but it comes at a

3205
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:04,240
massive cost. It relies on an oversized

3206
02:12:04,240 --> 02:12:07,440
NHL-style model sprawling across 59,600

3207
02:12:07,440 --> 02:12:09,360
square feet, carrying a staggering

3208
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,080
$43.864

3209
02:12:11,080 --> 02:12:13,960
million price tag. Advocates argue it's

3210
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:15,880
an absolute space hog.

3211
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:17,440
Dropping this massive footprint onto the

3212
02:12:17,440 --> 02:12:19,640
property almost entirely cannibalizes

3213
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:21,880
the much-needed gymnasium, youth areas,

3214
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:24,080
and meeting rooms. So, it solves the

3215
02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:26,040
rink problem on paper, sure, but it

3216
02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:27,680
totally ignores the broader community

3217
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:29,680
hub needs, forcing that frustrating

3218
02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:31,280
either/or compromise we just talked

3219
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:32,240
about.

3220
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,400
That brings us to section three,

3221
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:37,080
introducing the fourth option. Because

3222
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:38,600
residents felt cornered by those

3223
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:40,680
choices, local sports organizations

3224
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:42,400
stepped up with an alternative. They

3225
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:44,920
proposed a 55,000 square-foot hybrid

3226
02:12:44,920 --> 02:12:46,760
community center to prove the town can

3227
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:49,280
build smarter, not just bigger. The

3228
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:51,040
defining feature is a brilliant piece of

3229
02:12:51,040 --> 02:12:53,240
engineering. They shrank the rink.

3230
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:55,240
Instead of forcing a massive NHL pad

3231
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:57,320
into the design, this proposal relies on

3232
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:59,920
a highly efficient 77-x-177

3233
02:12:59,920 --> 02:13:02,400
foot multi-use pad. This ball hockey

3234
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:04,080
first design fully supports elite

3235
02:13:04,080 --> 02:13:05,760
development while remaining completely

3236
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:07,840
compatible with winter ice. It's a

3237
02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:09,560
really strategic engineering solution

3238
02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:11,520
that proves you can do more with less,

3239
02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:12,880
optimizing the footprint without

3240
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,560
sacrificing an ounce of actual function.

3241
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,120
Which leads us straight into part four,

3242
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:21,360
a true multi-use hub. By right-sizing

3243
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:23,280
that rink, the floor plan acts like a

3244
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:25,080
clever puzzle, perfectly snapping

3245
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:27,080
together. Because the rink takes less

3246
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:29,040
space, the fourth option seamlessly

3247
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:31,200
integrates comprehensive features within

3248
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,280
the exact same footprint. Just picture

3249
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:35,440
walking in. Right alongside the ice, you

3250
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:37,000
have a peripheral walking track, a

3251
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:38,840
dedicated fitness center, and a full

3252
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:40,760
gymnasium for sports like pickleball and

3253
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:43,240
basketball. It beautifully balances ice

3254
02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:45,240
and dry floor recreation all under one

3255
02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:47,320
roof, protecting those exact community

3256
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:48,840
elements that option three would have

3257
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:50,800
completely cannibalized.

3258
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:52,960
And this translates directly into broad

3259
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:55,880
community impact. Serving over 4,000 dry

3260
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:57,720
pad users isn't just a metric on a

3261
02:13:57,720 --> 02:13:59,600
spreadsheet. It transitions this whole

3262
02:13:59,600 --> 02:14:01,960
project into a true multi-generational

3263
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:03,320
gathering place.

3264
02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:05,240
By creating flexible community rooms and

3265
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,120
diverse athletic spaces, the facility

3266
02:14:07,120 --> 02:14:09,200
meets the needs of youth, families, and

3267
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:11,600
seniors all at once. It keeps the entire

3268
02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:13,960
community fully connected. It ensures a

3269
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:15,720
grandparent walking the track can be in

3270
02:14:15,720 --> 02:14:17,880
the same building at the exact same time

3271
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:19,920
as a teenager practicing ball hockey.

3272
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:22,200
Honestly, it's a real game-changer.

3273
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:23,600
Now, let's look at part five, the

3274
02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:25,640
strategic investment. We've got to

3275
02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:27,520
transition to the hard numbers here

3276
02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:29,400
because advocates argue this fourth

3277
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:31,520
option is a highly strategic financial

3278
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:33,680
decision for taxpayers. Just consider

3279
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:35,680
the massive cost of option three,

3280
02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:37,200
$43.864

3281
02:14:37,200 --> 02:14:39,920
million for an oversized arena. Now,

3282
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:41,720
compare that to the alternative. The

3283
02:14:41,720 --> 02:14:43,200
construction estimate for the fully

3284
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:46,120
integrated fourth option is just $40.975

3285
02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:47,440
million. That's

3286
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:49,080
Let's really drive home the ultimate

3287
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:50,920
closing argument here. This fourth

3288
02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:53,560
option is $2.9 million cheaper than

3289
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:56,200
option three. That massive savings buys

3290
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:58,600
the town significantly more value.

3291
02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:00,280
That's enough extra budget to completely

3292
02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:02,120
secure the hub features, the walking

3293
02:15:02,120 --> 02:15:04,080
track, the fitness center, the gym, and

3294
02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:05,880
the meeting rooms. It's pitched as a

3295
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:07,920
balanced, forward-looking model. It

3296
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:09,680
prepares Beaton for major population

3297
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:11,920
growth, gearing up for 80,000 residents

3298
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:13,960
without out sacrificing one user group

3299
02:15:13,960 --> 02:15:15,680
for another, and crucially, without

3300
02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:17,280
burying taxpayers in hidden maintenance

3301
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:19,560
costs for an old building. Which brings

3302
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:21,600
us to our final, somewhat provocative

3303
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:23,880
question. As the town makes its ultimate

3304
02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:25,760
decision, what's going to happen? Will

3305
02:15:25,760 --> 02:15:27,480
Beaton settle for a compromise building

3306
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:29,280
that fractures the community, or will

3307
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:31,120
they invest strategically in a true hub

3308
02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:33,240
that supports next generation growth?

3309
02:15:33,240 --> 02:15:35,000
It's a massive choice, one that will

3310
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:36,640
absolutely define the community for the

3311
02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:38,640
next 50 years. Thanks so much for

3312
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:40,360
joining us for this explainer. We'll see

3313
02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:48,670
you next time.

3314
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:49,360
» Huh.

3315
02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:52,400
So, the ask is to basically seek out

3316
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:54,680
another option, a hybrid option as we've

3317
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:55,920
shown.

3318
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:57,600
And wanted to just mention that the

3319
02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:00,960
large ice hockey facility, the NHL pad,

3320
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:02,880
it really doesn't work for for ball

3321
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:05,400
hockey, and that it would likely cause

3322
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:08,160
us to need to exit that in the summer,

3323
02:16:08,160 --> 02:16:11,480
which is about 400 hours usage currently

3324
02:16:11,480 --> 02:16:13,600
right now. So, thank you.

3325
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:15,793
>> Thank [snorts] you, Bill.

3326
02:16:15,793 --> 02:16:15,803
» Thank [snorts] you, Bill.

3327
02:16:15,803 --> 02:16:25,350
>> [applause]

3328
02:16:25,360 --> 02:16:27,120
» So, that is our

3329
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:28,960
registered deputation.

3330
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:30,280
So, we have a motion to be resolved that

3331
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:32,080
the deputations from the public be

3332
02:16:32,080 --> 02:16:34,400
received. Uh Counselor Masters, would

3333
02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:35,880
you move that? Deputy Mayor, would you

3334
02:16:35,880 --> 02:16:37,719
second that? Thank you.

3335
02:16:37,719 --> 02:16:39,920
At this moment, is there anybody from

3336
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:42,719
the audience that would like to

3337
02:16:42,719 --> 02:16:45,639
Sorry, all those in favor?

3338
02:16:45,639 --> 02:16:48,719
Okay, all those opposed?

3339
02:16:48,719 --> 02:16:50,480
Thank you.

3340
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:52,120
So, this is Is there anybody from the

3341
02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:53,160
audience that would like to make a

3342
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:56,040
comment? I can't see that

3343
02:16:56,040 --> 02:17:01,470
You please come on up.

3344
02:17:01,480 --> 02:17:03,040
Welcome, and just state your name,

3345
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:04,800
please.

3346
02:17:04,800 --> 02:17:13,669
Hi.

3347
02:17:13,679 --> 02:17:16,390
» Am I on?

3348
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:18,120
Hello, Mayor, Deputy Mayor, council

3349
02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:19,639
members,

3350
02:17:19,639 --> 02:17:21,800
um administration Sorry, administration

3351
02:17:21,800 --> 02:17:24,440
and staff, and also fellow community

3352
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:25,599
members.

3353
02:17:25,599 --> 02:17:27,120
Tonight's been pretty exciting. We've

3354
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:30,480
heard a lot of exciting proposals

3355
02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:32,360
of what could be built in our township.

3356
02:17:32,360 --> 02:17:34,080
We've heard a lot about the heart and

3357
02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:35,480
soul

3358
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:37,360
of our community members.

3359
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:38,920
Um what I think we need to step back and

3360
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:41,280
reflect on is what our manager of

3361
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:43,200
financial services has pointed out to

3362
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:44,760
us.

3363
02:17:44,760 --> 02:17:46,639
The presentations feel a bit like

3364
02:17:46,639 --> 02:17:48,960
dangling the brochure for Disney World

3365
02:17:48,960 --> 02:17:51,000
in front of our kids when our budget

3366
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:53,040
allows us to go to Wonderland.

3367
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:54,360
Um

3368
02:17:54,360 --> 02:17:56,599
if our township moves ahead with these

3369
02:17:56,599 --> 02:17:59,000
three recreational proposals,

3370
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:00,719
we are obviously putting our township

3371
02:18:00,719 --> 02:18:03,480
towards our affordability affordability

3372
02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:06,400
debt ratio tolerance.

3373
02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:09,400
My question to council would be where is

3374
02:18:09,400 --> 02:18:12,559
the proposed um

3375
02:18:12,559 --> 02:18:14,760
backing for these projects coming from?

3376
02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:16,559
And what will our increases in tax

3377
02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:18,679
taxation look like? Um from what I've

3378
02:18:18,679 --> 02:18:20,160
read, we're looking at anywhere from an

3379
02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:22,840
8.5 to 11.37%

3380
02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:25,599
increase in our property taxes.

3381
02:18:25,599 --> 02:18:27,240
Um which is significant, especially in

3382
02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:29,480
today's age. Um so to my fellow

3383
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:31,840
counselor or community members, I would

3384
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:34,320
ask who is in favor of of that kind of

3385
02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:36,480
increase in our taxation?

3386
02:18:36,480 --> 02:18:40,400
Um sports and recreation are very

3387
02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:42,160
important to our youth and to our elders

3388
02:18:42,160 --> 02:18:45,040
as as well. Um there are so many other

3389
02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:47,360
opportunities available to our township

3390
02:18:47,360 --> 02:18:49,880
that might not cost quite as much money.

3391
02:18:49,880 --> 02:18:50,719
Um

3392
02:18:50,719 --> 02:18:53,599
with our restrictions on developmental

3393
02:18:53,599 --> 02:18:55,719
charges coming in, um I think it's very

3394
02:18:55,719 --> 02:18:57,400
prudent to step back and look at where

3395
02:18:57,400 --> 02:18:59,440
we're putting ourselves financially

3396
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:01,360
moving forward.

3397
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:02,040
Thank you.

3398
02:19:02,040 --> 02:19:06,750
>> Thank you very much.

3399
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:09,470
» [applause]

3400
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:13,669
» I'm just looking out at the audience

3401
02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:15,920
and I I don't see anyone, so thank you

3402
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:18,000
very much. So now I'm going to go to

3403
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,760
council. We had quite a few deputations.

3404
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:23,440
We had quite a few presentations, so

3405
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:25,519
this is your opportunity council to ask

3406
02:19:25,519 --> 02:19:27,160
questions

3407
02:19:27,160 --> 02:19:29,120
of either the presenters or the well,

3408
02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:31,360
the presenters. So counselor Bess is

3409
02:19:31,360 --> 02:19:33,000
first, please.

3410
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:34,261
>> Uh thank you, worship.

3411
02:19:34,261 --> 02:19:34,271
» Uh thank you, worship.

3412
02:19:34,271 --> 02:19:34,790
>> [clears throat]

3413
02:19:34,790 --> 02:19:34,800
» [clears throat]

3414
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:37,110
>> And thank you to everyone who spoke this

3415
02:19:37,110 --> 02:19:37,120
» And thank you to everyone who spoke this

3416
02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:39,000
evening, to the presenters of the

3417
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:42,360
projects, to staff, and to council and

3418
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:43,639
everyone else that's been in the room

3419
02:19:43,639 --> 02:19:47,000
here to to try to digest all that's

3420
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:49,160
happened, not just this evening, but

3421
02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:51,840
over the last few days, few months, and

3422
02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:55,280
I think in some cases years, right? Um I

3423
02:19:55,280 --> 02:19:57,000
think what I would like to just point

3424
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:58,560
out and I think the last lady made a

3425
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:00,960
very good point is there's the there's

3426
02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:03,480
obviously going to be a operating cost

3427
02:20:03,480 --> 02:20:05,920
and a tax supported debt debt repayment.

3428
02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:07,600
In other words, a tax impact to

3429
02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:09,080
everything that was

3430
02:20:09,080 --> 02:20:11,800
spoke of tonight. So, I just want to

3431
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:13,640
make make a couple of point out a couple

3432
02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:15,880
things. So, just just keep in mind that,

3433
02:20:15,880 --> 02:20:16,880
you know, in

3434
02:20:16,880 --> 02:20:19,120
in this year, 2026, the assumptions and

3435
02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:21,160
business plans, you know, discussed and

3436
02:20:21,160 --> 02:20:23,960
approved in 2025 are no longer current.

3437
02:20:23,960 --> 02:20:25,560
So, we had a we went through a budget

3438
02:20:25,560 --> 02:20:26,920
process

3439
02:20:26,920 --> 02:20:29,200
for 2026 and was all based on kind of

3440
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:31,800
the assumptions we made walking into it.

3441
02:20:31,800 --> 02:20:33,400
So, the projects that we consider in

3442
02:20:33,400 --> 02:20:35,760
these reports must be viewed in context

3443
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:37,360
of the needs of our community, the

3444
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:39,440
economy, and the recently mandated

3445
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:41,360
provincial growth plans.

3446
02:20:41,360 --> 02:20:43,440
Let's be clear, Canada is in a

3447
02:20:43,440 --> 02:20:44,960
recession.

3448
02:20:44,960 --> 02:20:46,720
In the last three or four quarters,

3449
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:48,880
Canada has experienced negative GDP

3450
02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:50,840
performance. Unfortunately, our

3451
02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:52,480
province, Ontario, has been hit

3452
02:20:52,480 --> 02:20:54,200
absolutely hardest.

3453
02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:56,240
We're also hit with US sectoral tariffs,

3454
02:20:56,240 --> 02:20:58,120
which threaten our auto industry, and of

3455
02:20:58,120 --> 02:20:59,800
course, as we all know, the future of

3456
02:20:59,800 --> 02:21:02,600
Honda's expansion plans have stalled.

3457
02:21:02,600 --> 02:21:04,360
The economic forecast calls for minimal

3458
02:21:04,360 --> 02:21:06,480
growth, if any, for the next 12 to 18

3459
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:07,520
months.

3460
02:21:07,520 --> 02:21:10,080
And in addition, what has also changed

3461
02:21:10,080 --> 02:21:12,840
is OPA 5 and the provincial priorities

3462
02:21:12,840 --> 02:21:15,120
for New Tecumseth development.

3463
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:18,280
This has really reset the table of

3464
02:21:18,280 --> 02:21:19,880
current and future infrastructure

3465
02:21:19,880 --> 02:21:23,160
requirements and priorities. By 2051,

3466
02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:25,120
the province has determined that New

3467
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,760
Tecumseth will add about 100,000

3468
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:30,960
new residents to our community. So,

3469
02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:33,520
consider this. Take every service and

3470
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:35,640
piece of infrastructure we have today,

3471
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:37,720
everything that we have currently, and

3472
02:21:37,720 --> 02:21:41,000
we need to double it in 25 years.

3473
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:42,680
As a result, I'm I'm not sure if

3474
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:44,800
everyone knows this, but the province

3475
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:46,920
has hired Hemson and Tatham Engineering

3476
02:21:46,920 --> 02:21:49,280
Consultants to research and prepare a

3477
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:51,840
master services plan. And these reports

3478
02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:52,840
will be

3479
02:21:52,840 --> 02:21:54,880
will set the baseline, the minimum

3480
02:21:54,880 --> 02:21:57,000
baseline of infrastructure requirements,

3481
02:21:57,000 --> 02:21:58,640
and Council will have to review the

3482
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:00,320
recommendations before we add additional

3483
02:22:00,320 --> 02:22:02,600
requirements to enhance the services we

3484
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:04,880
experience today. So, I you know,

3485
02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:06,233
there's a lot of issues here.

3486
02:22:06,233 --> 02:22:08,320
[clears throat] We talk about taxation,

3487
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:10,480
about the growth. I think

3488
02:22:10,480 --> 02:22:12,560
we talk about if we approve the pool,

3489
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:15,960
the dome, as well as the beaten arena,

3490
02:22:15,960 --> 02:22:17,600
the arena portion of option number

3491
02:22:17,600 --> 02:22:19,720
three, increases the equivalent increase

3492
02:22:19,720 --> 02:22:21,960
to the 11.35%.

3493
02:22:21,960 --> 02:22:23,760
Remember, that's going to be also based

3494
02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:26,600
on the population of today, 48,000

3495
02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:28,360
people. That will also be [snorts] based

3496
02:22:28,360 --> 02:22:30,440
on the fact that we have not had an

3497
02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:32,880
opportunity to go to the province and

3498
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:35,640
say to them, "Listen, we have about 6

3499
02:22:35,640 --> 02:22:38,120
billion with a B dollars worth of

3500
02:22:38,120 --> 02:22:39,800
infrastructure projects that we need

3501
02:22:39,800 --> 02:22:43,200
them to pay for." So, a lot of the

3502
02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:44,760
the data that we've been presented

3503
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:48,480
tonight needs further analysis. And that

3504
02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:50,840
further analysis

3505
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:53,360
is what I believe should happen within

3506
02:22:53,360 --> 02:22:54,920
the context of the annual budget

3507
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:58,040
discussion. And we need to align what

3508
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:00,680
we're building with what we can afford

3509
02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:04,200
to build. So, I support all three of the

3510
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:06,160
items tonight. Let's be perfectly clear.

3511
02:23:06,160 --> 02:23:08,200
And I hope that they all go forward, but

3512
02:23:08,200 --> 02:23:10,480
also, as we've learned in the past, it's

3513
02:23:10,480 --> 02:23:13,200
very, very important for us to meet as a

3514
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:15,920
council, staff, and the public during a

3515
02:23:15,920 --> 02:23:18,440
budget preparation so that we can

3516
02:23:18,440 --> 02:23:20,800
actually go through what the impact is

3517
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:22,520
in terms of our debt ceiling and what

3518
02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:24,120
the tax what how that will impact

3519
02:23:24,120 --> 02:23:25,720
taxation. So, everything that was

3520
02:23:25,720 --> 02:23:27,000
presented today is a little out of

3521
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:29,120
context, and I think that's very

3522
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:31,720
important for us to move these projects

3523
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:33,480
forward, but let's make sure that we

3524
02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:35,440
discuss them within the context of an

3525
02:23:35,440 --> 02:23:39,080
annual budget. So, your worship, I just

3526
02:23:39,080 --> 02:23:40,720
I'll just begin the evening by just

3527
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:41,720
saying

3528
02:23:41,720 --> 02:23:44,040
um I'd like to make the motion that be

3529
02:23:44,040 --> 02:23:47,840
it resolved that report RFC 2026 -19 be

3530
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:50,040
received and further that the sports

3531
02:23:50,040 --> 02:23:52,840
dome project be deferred to the 2027

3532
02:23:52,840 --> 02:23:54,720
budget deliberations for consideration.

3533
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:56,520
That would be my first motion and I hope

3534
02:23:56,520 --> 02:23:58,200
that someone allow me to defer this and

3535
02:23:58,200 --> 02:23:59,760
will will actually

3536
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:01,760
um second my motion.

3537
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:03,310
>> I'm going to go to the clerk because the

3538
02:24:03,310 --> 02:24:03,320
» I'm going to go to the clerk because the

3539
02:24:03,320 --> 02:24:06,080
purpose of this part of the meeting was

3540
02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:08,080
comments or was like questions for

3541
02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:10,360
members of council to the consultants or

3542
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:12,440
the presenters.

3543
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:15,960
So, I would defer to you uh Madam Clerk

3544
02:24:15,960 --> 02:24:17,400
cuz I know when a deferral comes up you

3545
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:18,920
can debate

3546
02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:21,120
the merits of the deferral.

3547
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:22,160
And

3548
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:24,240
um so I would ask them for a second cuz

3549
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:25,880
there there's a lot of people here

3550
02:24:25,880 --> 02:24:27,640
who've been here tonight. So, I want to

3551
02:24:27,640 --> 02:24:29,360
make I know the process but I want to

3552
02:24:29,360 --> 02:24:31,440
make sure that everybody else knows.

3553
02:24:31,440 --> 02:24:32,840
So, Madam Clerk

3554
02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:34,440
we have a motion for deferral under our

3555
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:36,920
procedural bylaw. We automatically go to

3556
02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:39,000
that deferral. We look for a second

3557
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:41,160
secondary and then the debate will be on

3558
02:24:41,160 --> 02:24:43,280
the merits of the deferral.

3559
02:24:43,280 --> 02:24:44,680
Can you clarify, please?

3560
02:24:44,680 --> 02:24:47,350
>> Uh that's correct, Your Worship.

3561
02:24:47,350 --> 02:24:47,360
» Uh that's correct, Your Worship.

3562
02:24:47,360 --> 02:24:50,030
>> Okay, thank you. So, there is a motion

3563
02:24:50,030 --> 02:24:50,040
» Okay, thank you. So, there is a motion

3564
02:24:50,040 --> 02:24:52,600
for deferral from Council

3565
02:24:52,600 --> 02:24:53,200
Go ahead.

3566
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:55,550
>> Uh is the deferral strictly on

3567
02:24:55,550 --> 02:24:55,560
» Uh is the deferral strictly on

3568
02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:56,840
number one?

3569
02:24:56,840 --> 02:24:58,080
Okay, I have to

3570
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:00,230
>> You asked Councillor Rappin. Good good

3571
02:25:00,230 --> 02:25:00,240
» You asked Councillor Rappin. Good good

3572
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:01,600
call and please note that Councillor

3573
02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:04,280
Rappin has excused himself.

3574
02:25:04,280 --> 02:25:07,120
So, there is a motion for a deferral

3575
02:25:07,120 --> 02:25:08,640
um from Councillor Best. Is there a

3576
02:25:08,640 --> 02:25:12,630
secondary for that motion for deferral?

3577
02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:14,440
Councillor Cox is making that motion for

3578
02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:15,920
deferral.

3579
02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:17,600
So, what is now on the floor, I will

3580
02:25:17,600 --> 02:25:19,120
open the floor up to debate for the

3581
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,600
motion of deferral.

3582
02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:22,640
Does anybody have any comments or

3583
02:25:22,640 --> 02:25:24,680
questions?

3584
02:25:24,680 --> 02:25:26,640
I do. Let's make a decision tonight. The

3585
02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:29,600
presentation is very very clear. We have

3586
02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:31,400
all the information and it's time to

3587
02:25:31,400 --> 02:25:34,120
move forward. So, I will support it.

3588
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:35,080
Are there any other comments or

3589
02:25:35,080 --> 02:25:37,600
questions in regards to the deferral?

3590
02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:39,400
Not seeing any. So, uh Madam Clerk, I

3591
02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:40,760
will now call a the

3592
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:42,600
Thank you. So,

3593
02:25:42,600 --> 02:25:44,720
the motion to defer item number one. All

3594
02:25:44,720 --> 02:25:48,550
those in favor, please.

3595
02:25:48,560 --> 02:25:52,680
1 2 3, I count four here.

3596
02:25:52,680 --> 02:25:54,400
I can see number five, Councillor

3597
02:25:54,400 --> 02:25:55,920
Harrison-McIntyre.

3598
02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:58,320
So, Madam Clerk, can you just confirm my

3599
02:25:58,320 --> 02:26:01,470
count, please?

3600
02:26:01,480 --> 02:26:04,320
» Uh your worship, I counted in support.

3601
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:07,120
So, by default Oh, no, five in support,

3602
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:09,200
so it will carry because Councillor

3603
02:26:09,200 --> 02:26:10,800
Rappin has declared a pecuniary

3604
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:12,120
interest.

3605
02:26:12,120 --> 02:26:14,230
>> Okay, so that means no decision tonight

3606
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:14,240
» Okay, so that means no decision tonight

3607
02:26:14,240 --> 02:26:16,840
on the dome.

3608
02:26:16,840 --> 02:26:19,600
And um

3609
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:24,310
I thought

3610
02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:26,280
No, no, I understand that, but I want to

3611
02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:27,920
be clear, there are people here watching

3612
02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:30,000
and people that have showed up tonight.

3613
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:31,720
There will not be a decision made on

3614
02:26:31,720 --> 02:26:34,880
going forward with the dome tonight.

3615
02:26:34,880 --> 02:26:37,920
So, thank you for that, and Councillor

3616
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:42,230
Best, you said you had another motion?

3617
02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:44,000
Hold one second, Councillor Best.

3618
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:46,240
And can somebody call Councillor Oh,

3619
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:47,760
there's Councillor Rappin, you're back

3620
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:48,280
in.

3621
02:26:48,280 --> 02:26:50,030
>> No, I don't have No, your worship, I do

3622
02:26:50,030 --> 02:26:50,040
» No, I don't have No, your worship, I do

3623
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:51,560
not. I just wanted to make sure that we

3624
02:26:51,560 --> 02:26:53,480
have that we you know, as we move

3625
02:26:53,480 --> 02:26:54,960
through the process, that we have an

3626
02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:58,000
opportunity to have a more comprehensive

3627
02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:00,080
discussion. I mean, and just so I can

3628
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,920
explain myself, thank you for booing. Um

3629
02:27:02,920 --> 02:27:04,760
I just want to let let people everyone

3630
02:27:04,760 --> 02:27:06,000
know that

3631
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:08,480
the this doesn't end the process.

3632
02:27:08,480 --> 02:27:10,920
The the budget comes in to discussion in

3633
02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:13,400
about six months. So, all this does is

3634
02:27:13,400 --> 02:27:17,200
it just puts this project in the same

3635
02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:19,240
category as all the other growth

3636
02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:21,680
projects, which will allow us to take a

3637
02:27:21,680 --> 02:27:24,360
look at our our debt and our tax impact,

3638
02:27:24,360 --> 02:27:26,080
and it allow us all to look at it and

3639
02:27:26,080 --> 02:27:28,520
reflect on it, and decide, do we want

3640
02:27:28,520 --> 02:27:31,800
11% tax increase? I mean, that that's

3641
02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:33,640
what we And if we if it's something that

3642
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:35,160
we want to do, then we'll go ahead with

3643
02:27:35,160 --> 02:27:37,360
it. If we don't want 11% tax increase,

3644
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:38,640
then we'll have to adjust.

3645
02:27:38,640 --> 02:27:40,430
>> Best, we've we've it's

3646
02:27:40,430 --> 02:27:40,440
» Best, we've we've it's

3647
02:27:40,440 --> 02:27:41,200
we'll move on.

3648
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:41,670
>> you're

3649
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:41,680
» you're

3650
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:43,550
>> Well, you've the motion's been moved,

3651
02:27:43,550 --> 02:27:43,560
» Well, you've the motion's been moved,

3652
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:45,400
it's been seconded, it's been voted on,

3653
02:27:45,400 --> 02:27:46,880
and it's been referred to the budget.

3654
02:27:46,880 --> 02:27:48,960
So,

3655
02:27:48,960 --> 02:27:50,600
No, I'm not, Joe. I'm chairing the

3656
02:27:50,600 --> 02:27:53,040
meeting. And that's what I'm going to

3657
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:55,320
do, and that is my role.

3658
02:27:55,320 --> 02:27:57,080
And I will not be interrupted from the

3659
02:27:57,080 --> 02:27:58,960
audience.

3660
02:27:58,960 --> 02:28:00,520
Counselor Best, if you'd like to take 30

3661
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:03,240
seconds to wrap up, go ahead, please,

3662
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:05,040
but I will not be interrupted. And

3663
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:07,000
there'll be decorum in these council

3664
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:08,200
chambers.

3665
02:28:08,200 --> 02:28:12,030
Go ahead, counselor Best.

3666
02:28:12,040 --> 02:28:13,920
Okay, thank you. So, we're moving on

3667
02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:15,880
then to item Well, no, is there any

3668
02:28:15,880 --> 02:28:17,920
other questions

3669
02:28:17,920 --> 02:28:19,280
from the presenters tonight from members

3670
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:21,160
of council? I have counselor Masters, do

3671
02:28:21,160 --> 02:28:23,720
you have a question?

3672
02:28:23,720 --> 02:28:27,150
>> Um um not on that. I have a question I

3673
02:28:27,150 --> 02:28:27,160
» Um um not on that. I have a question I

3674
02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:29,880
have some questions for the presenters.

3675
02:28:29,880 --> 02:28:31,230
>> Yes, so do you have a question for the

3676
02:28:31,230 --> 02:28:31,240
» Yes, so do you have a question for the

3677
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:31,880
presenters?

3678
02:28:31,880 --> 02:28:32,270
>> Yes, do.

3679
02:28:32,270 --> 02:28:32,280
» Yes, do.

3680
02:28:32,280 --> 02:28:33,910
>> And for items two, three, go ahead.

3681
02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:33,920
» And for items two, three, go ahead.

3682
02:28:33,920 --> 02:28:36,790
>> a a couple, actually. Um first of all, I

3683
02:28:36,790 --> 02:28:36,800
» a a couple, actually. Um first of all, I

3684
02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:38,800
like I have a question on the sports

3685
02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:40,200
dome.

3686
02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:41,720
Um

3687
02:28:41,720 --> 02:28:44,600
the I [clears throat] noticed that um

3688
02:28:44,600 --> 02:28:46,440
I'm all for the sports dome, by the way.

3689
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:47,040
Um

3690
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:49,480
I think they're a great way an economic

3691
02:28:49,480 --> 02:28:50,600
way of

3692
02:28:50,600 --> 02:28:53,400
of of bringing us the sports to the

3693
02:28:53,400 --> 02:28:55,720
public. Um

3694
02:28:55,720 --> 02:28:58,640
um I played with the Tottenham seniors

3695
02:28:58,640 --> 02:29:00,400
soccer team for a number of years, and

3696
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:02,520
we actually used the facility in

3697
02:29:02,520 --> 02:29:05,560
Bradford. Uh my question is that this is

3698
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:08,480
a nice clear see-through dome. Um

3699
02:29:08,480 --> 02:29:10,760
what what is the track record

3700
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:12,200
uh from a from a serviceability

3701
02:29:12,200 --> 02:29:13,560
standpoint? We have some pretty tough

3702
02:29:13,560 --> 02:29:15,360
winters here, and I know the one in

3703
02:29:15,360 --> 02:29:18,640
Bradford had a very solid um you know,

3704
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:21,840
dome. Wasn't see-through, as I remember.

3705
02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:24,560
Um how does this type What's the record

3706
02:29:24,560 --> 02:29:26,480
of this type of dome? How does it stack

3707
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:29,790
up?

3708
02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:31,320
I said I have two more questions after

3709
02:29:31,320 --> 02:29:31,680
that.

3710
02:29:31,680 --> 02:29:33,270
>> Thank you. I just do the direction

3711
02:29:33,270 --> 02:29:33,280
» Thank you. I just do the direction

3712
02:29:33,280 --> 02:29:36,120
through the director, please.

3713
02:29:36,120 --> 02:29:37,800
I'll just go to you, director, and then

3714
02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:39,360
you can

3715
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:40,680
Through your worship to members of

3716
02:29:40,680 --> 02:29:42,720
council, Mr. Langlois is just online. He

3717
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:44,920
could probably more properly answer that

3718
02:29:44,920 --> 02:29:49,790
question. Steve.

3719
02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:50,960
Thank you, your worship, and members of

3720
02:29:50,960 --> 02:29:52,680
council and masters.

3721
02:29:52,680 --> 02:29:54,160
So, the image that you were seeing would

3722
02:29:54,160 --> 02:29:55,600
show it

3723
02:29:55,600 --> 02:29:57,560
as a transparent dome. That's that's

3724
02:29:57,560 --> 02:29:59,280
really just for illustration purposes so

3725
02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:03,560
you can see the field and inside.

3726
02:30:03,560 --> 02:30:06,200
The actual dome fabric and the design

3727
02:30:06,200 --> 02:30:08,600
would have to be dictated through tender

3728
02:30:08,600 --> 02:30:11,880
and at that time. So, at this moment, I

3729
02:30:11,880 --> 02:30:13,400
mean, most domes that you'll see out

3730
02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:14,800
there tend to be

3731
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:16,920
largely white. There are the technology

3732
02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:18,960
improves year after year on them. Many

3733
02:30:18,960 --> 02:30:20,600
of them now have sort of transparent

3734
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:23,040
panels. Typically, you would have that

3735
02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:25,400
as a sort of a skylight to let in a

3736
02:30:25,400 --> 02:30:27,640
little bit more

3737
02:30:27,640 --> 02:30:30,280
daylight into into the building. So,

3738
02:30:30,280 --> 02:30:31,440
really the design would have to be

3739
02:30:31,440 --> 02:30:34,200
dictated through the next stage as that

3740
02:30:34,200 --> 02:30:37,400
goes. And relative to the lifespan of

3741
02:30:37,400 --> 02:30:39,440
these facilities,

3742
02:30:39,440 --> 02:30:42,080
we've we've anticipated you'll hear from

3743
02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:44,200
suppliers that they can get 25 to 30

3744
02:30:44,200 --> 02:30:47,640
years out of the dome fabric.

3745
02:30:47,640 --> 02:30:50,520
That might be a a bit ambitious. They

3746
02:30:50,520 --> 02:30:52,520
will start to look look a little bit

3747
02:30:52,520 --> 02:30:54,720
older over time. We've anticipated a

3748
02:30:54,720 --> 02:30:57,280
25-year replacement. You'll see that.

3749
02:30:57,280 --> 02:31:00,120
That's pretty typical in in this sort of

3750
02:31:00,120 --> 02:31:02,440
sector.

3751
02:31:02,440 --> 02:31:04,080
They're they're quite good. Again,

3752
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:05,200
technology improves every year. They're

3753
02:31:05,200 --> 02:31:07,280
quite good with snow snow loads. You

3754
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:09,520
would have to maintain

3755
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:11,280
a snow clearing area around the apron so

3756
02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:14,280
you don't get snow snow load pressure

3757
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:15,640
onto

3758
02:31:15,640 --> 02:31:17,920
the apron of the dome.

3759
02:31:17,920 --> 02:31:19,320
So, there is some requirement to make

3760
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:21,400
sure that that's cleared

3761
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:23,720
certainly after heavy snowfalls.

3762
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:24,880
Okay, thank you. So, what I'm going to

3763
02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:26,640
do, sorry,

3764
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:28,240
I'm going to change the format. We are

3765
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:29,760
on item number two, indoor pool

3766
02:31:29,760 --> 02:31:31,640
feasibility study and proposed aquatic

3767
02:31:31,640 --> 02:31:33,720
and wellness center expansion. So, what

3768
02:31:33,720 --> 02:31:34,680
I'm going to do is I'm going to limit

3769
02:31:34,680 --> 02:31:36,480
the questions for members of council to

3770
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:39,200
item number two that retain pertain to

3771
02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:41,320
the indoor pool. Can somebody let

3772
02:31:41,320 --> 02:31:42,760
Councillor Rappin come back in and

3773
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:44,520
participate, please?

3774
02:31:44,520 --> 02:31:52,990
Sorry, Councillor Masters.

3775
02:31:53,000 --> 02:31:54,280
Okay, members of council, are there any

3776
02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:56,800
questions to item number two or comments

3777
02:31:56,800 --> 02:32:01,550
to item number two?

3778
02:32:01,560 --> 02:32:06,430
Councillor Foster, please.

3779
02:32:06,440 --> 02:32:09,200
» Uh thank you, Mayor Northcutt. Um

3780
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:11,520
referring Well, first of all, I I didn't

3781
02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:13,840
support the deferral um

3782
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:16,200
on the sports dome, but

3783
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:18,960
in light of Director Hobbs' comments

3784
02:32:18,960 --> 02:32:20,800
that

3785
02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:22,000
uh I believe it was right at the

3786
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:23,240
beginning of the meeting you asked the

3787
02:32:23,240 --> 02:32:25,800
question, what what established the

3788
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:26,840
order?

3789
02:32:26,840 --> 02:32:29,400
And the order was you need to vote on

3790
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:30,920
the sports dome

3791
02:32:30,920 --> 02:32:32,760
in order to make a decision on the pool

3792
02:32:32,760 --> 02:32:34,240
because of how

3793
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:36,040
intrinsically tied together they are.

3794
02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:38,120
So, my question is,

3795
02:32:38,120 --> 02:32:39,880
if someone's going to support a deferral

3796
02:32:39,880 --> 02:32:41,920
for number one,

3797
02:32:41,920 --> 02:32:44,200
why would we vote on number two because

3798
02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:46,520
they both go hand in hand? And is my

3799
02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:50,440
interpretation correct, Director Hobbs?

3800
02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:57,150
>> Director.

3801
02:32:57,160 --> 02:32:58,440
» Uh through you, Your Worship, to

3802
02:32:58,440 --> 02:33:00,280
Councillor Foster. Um yes, there's

3803
02:33:00,280 --> 02:33:02,080
certainly merits to to that thinking and

3804
02:33:02,080 --> 02:33:03,320
that's why I explained the domino

3805
02:33:03,320 --> 02:33:05,680
process at the beginning. Um however,

3806
02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:08,080
should council wish to proceed uh with

3807
02:33:08,080 --> 02:33:10,240
the second report, um I would advise

3808
02:33:10,240 --> 02:33:13,200
that uh the the NTRC field house

3809
02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:15,200
component would it would be wise to

3810
02:33:15,200 --> 02:33:16,600
remove that as part of the the

3811
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:18,360
renovation, um which is why that was

3812
02:33:18,360 --> 02:33:20,440
specifically separated in terms of the

3813
02:33:20,440 --> 02:33:22,760
budget figure, as well as in terms of

3814
02:33:22,760 --> 02:33:24,520
advancing the overall project. So,

3815
02:33:24,520 --> 02:33:26,240
theoretically, um

3816
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:27,720
uh to Councillor Foster's point, you

3817
02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:29,480
could still advance, should Council wish

3818
02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:31,440
to advance, the pool

3819
02:33:31,440 --> 02:33:33,160
um as well as the other components of

3820
02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:34,720
the expansion, but I would suggest to

3821
02:33:34,720 --> 02:33:36,960
not advance the the the field house

3822
02:33:36,960 --> 02:33:39,750
component.

3823
02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:41,400
» Thank you. Councillor Foster, did you

3824
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:43,000
have a follow-up, or you're good with

3825
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:44,840
that?

3826
02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:45,910
>> Um

3827
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:45,920
» Um

3828
02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:47,680
yes, thank you, Director Hobbs. Then

3829
02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:49,400
I'll I'll um

3830
02:33:49,400 --> 02:33:52,800
um I'll speak in support of the uh I was

3831
02:33:52,800 --> 02:33:54,320
I'm in support of

3832
02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:55,800
the the sports dome, but that's

3833
02:33:55,800 --> 02:33:57,640
obviously been deferred. So, I will

3834
02:33:57,640 --> 02:34:00,120
speak in support of the pool and um

3835
02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:01,520
see what the rest of Council says and

3836
02:34:01,520 --> 02:34:03,000
when we vote on it.

3837
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:04,990
>> Thank you. Next on my list is Councillor

3838
02:34:04,990 --> 02:34:05,000
» Thank you. Next on my list is Councillor

3839
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:06,520
Bess, please.

3840
02:34:06,520 --> 02:34:09,310
>> I thank Thank you, Worship. Um

3841
02:34:09,310 --> 02:34:09,320
» I thank Thank you, Worship. Um

3842
02:34:09,320 --> 02:34:11,040
So, for the record, I'm in support of

3843
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:12,600
all of these projects. I just want to

3844
02:34:12,600 --> 02:34:14,960
wait 6 months, so that we can consider

3845
02:34:14,960 --> 02:34:17,800
it as a council and understand exactly

3846
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:19,400
how the how it's going to impact our

3847
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:21,280
community as a whole. Uh you know,

3848
02:34:21,280 --> 02:34:23,640
unfortunately, these are very big-ticket

3849
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:25,680
items that we're talking about tonight,

3850
02:34:25,680 --> 02:34:27,760
and they impact everything about our

3851
02:34:27,760 --> 02:34:29,720
community. So, it's really important to

3852
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:32,040
get all of the different input from

3853
02:34:32,040 --> 02:34:33,760
everybody, so that we can determine

3854
02:34:33,760 --> 02:34:36,040
exactly what the timeline is. As you can

3855
02:34:36,040 --> 02:34:37,760
see, we're going to hit our death debt

3856
02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:40,320
threshold, which means that if anytime

3857
02:34:40,320 --> 02:34:42,000
thereafter we get hit with a natural

3858
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:43,720
disaster or

3859
02:34:43,720 --> 02:34:45,680
a water main breaks or something, we

3860
02:34:45,680 --> 02:34:47,920
will not be able to borrow money to fix

3861
02:34:47,920 --> 02:34:51,040
it. So, in that light, you you Worship,

3862
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:53,760
I I recommend that uh the report RFC

3863
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:56,000
2026-20 regarding the indoor pool

3864
02:34:56,000 --> 02:34:58,200
feasibility study and the associated

3865
02:34:58,200 --> 02:34:59,880
aquatic and wellness center expansion

3866
02:34:59,880 --> 02:35:01,280
and the new Tecumseh recreation center

3867
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:03,080
be received, and further that the

3868
02:35:03,080 --> 02:35:04,760
aquatic and wellness center project be

3869
02:35:04,760 --> 02:35:06,920
deferred to the 2027 budget

3870
02:35:06,920 --> 02:35:09,520
deliberations for consideration.

3871
02:35:09,520 --> 02:35:11,710
>> Thank you, Councillor Bess. I'll look to

3872
02:35:11,710 --> 02:35:11,720
» Thank you, Councillor Bess. I'll look to

3873
02:35:11,720 --> 02:35:13,480
the clerk to make sure she's documented

3874
02:35:13,480 --> 02:35:15,000
that, and you're fine with that. Thank

3875
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:16,280
Thank Is there a secondary for the

3876
02:35:16,280 --> 02:35:19,870
deferral, please?

3877
02:35:19,880 --> 02:35:21,760
Is there a Oh, sorry. Deputy Mayor,

3878
02:35:21,760 --> 02:35:23,360
please. Thank you.

3879
02:35:23,360 --> 02:35:25,400
So, it's been duly moved, duly seconded,

3880
02:35:25,400 --> 02:35:27,680
and it be deferred to the 2027 budget

3881
02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:29,440
deliberation

3882
02:35:29,440 --> 02:35:31,840
process. Thank you. Okay. All those in

3883
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:33,920
favor, then?

3884
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:36,560
And that's carried.

3885
02:35:36,560 --> 02:35:38,200
Thank you, Council. So, I'm going to

3886
02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:40,440
move on to item number three, which is

3887
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:41,640
the Beeton Community Centre

3888
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:43,760
Redevelopment Preliminary Design

3889
02:35:43,760 --> 02:35:45,520
Options.

3890
02:35:45,520 --> 02:35:46,840
And I'm going to go to Councillor Cox,

3891
02:35:46,840 --> 02:35:48,268
please.

3892
02:35:48,268 --> 02:35:48,710
>> [clears throat]

3893
02:35:48,710 --> 02:35:48,720
» [clears throat]

3894
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:51,150
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I do echo what

3895
02:35:51,150 --> 02:35:51,160
» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I do echo what

3896
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:54,520
of Councillor Bississ said, that uh

3897
02:35:54,520 --> 02:35:57,320
I'm sure that all of Council supports

3898
02:35:57,320 --> 02:35:59,760
these projects. And uh it is the

3899
02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:02,080
responsible thing to move a few of these

3900
02:36:02,080 --> 02:36:03,840
to the budget. In terms of the Beeton

3901
02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:05,800
facility project,

3902
02:36:05,800 --> 02:36:07,920
um

3903
02:36:07,920 --> 02:36:10,200
I think this is what is actually holding

3904
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:12,320
up a lot of our recreation programs

3905
02:36:12,320 --> 02:36:13,960
moving forward.

3906
02:36:13,960 --> 02:36:16,320
This project has been on the books and

3907
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:19,520
being worked towards for the last 20

3908
02:36:19,520 --> 02:36:20,880
years.

3909
02:36:20,880 --> 02:36:22,440
We haven't seen

3910
02:36:22,440 --> 02:36:25,120
very many large recreation projects, and

3911
02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:27,160
a lot of that reason is because then we

3912
02:36:27,160 --> 02:36:29,800
point to the Beeton facility and we say,

3913
02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:32,200
"We've updated the NTRC. We've updated

3914
02:36:32,200 --> 02:36:35,000
the TCFC. And Beeton would like an

3915
02:36:35,000 --> 02:36:37,840
opportunity for that to happen."

3916
02:36:37,840 --> 02:36:40,440
This project isn't new to Council, and

3917
02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:41,800
it's certainly not new to the residents

3918
02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:44,800
of Beeton. For nearly two decades, it's

3919
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:46,960
been studied, reviewed, debated,

3920
02:36:46,960 --> 02:36:49,200
revised, and brought back for future

3921
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:51,280
consideration.

3922
02:36:51,280 --> 02:36:52,320
What concerns me about the

3923
02:36:52,320 --> 02:36:54,000
recommendations before Council tonight

3924
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:56,240
is not simply what it proposes, it's

3925
02:36:56,240 --> 02:36:59,440
what it represents. 20 years, residents

3926
02:36:59,440 --> 02:37:02,200
have been told the process is coming.

3927
02:37:02,200 --> 02:37:04,120
Yet, here we are again.

3928
02:37:04,120 --> 02:37:06,400
The recommendation before us

3929
02:37:06,400 --> 02:37:08,360
does not approve a budget for the Beeton

3930
02:37:08,360 --> 02:37:10,680
facility like the other two.

3931
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:12,840
It doesn't approve financing, and it

3932
02:37:12,840 --> 02:37:15,000
doesn't authorize construction.

3933
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:16,920
It asked council to select a preferred

3934
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:19,800
option and continue refining it

3935
02:37:19,800 --> 02:37:23,560
through additional due diligence.

3936
02:37:23,560 --> 02:37:25,080
At the same time council was asked

3937
02:37:25,080 --> 02:37:27,240
tonight to move forward with the sports

3938
02:37:27,240 --> 02:37:29,360
sports dome project, to move forward

3939
02:37:29,360 --> 02:37:30,720
with the aquatic and wellness center

3940
02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:33,000
project. Those projects are being

3941
02:37:33,000 --> 02:37:35,280
presented as ready for financing, but

3942
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:37,560
the Beaton Community Center, arguably

3943
02:37:37,560 --> 02:37:40,240
the longest running recreation project

3944
02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:42,440
in this municipality, is once again

3945
02:37:42,440 --> 02:37:45,320
being told to wait.

3946
02:37:45,320 --> 02:37:47,600
When the town has reached 99% capacity

3947
02:37:47,600 --> 02:37:49,600
in our ice facilities, does it make

3948
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:51,720
sense to reduce the level of service by

3949
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:54,520
25%?

3950
02:37:54,520 --> 02:37:56,320
And then try to facilitate the use of

3951
02:37:56,320 --> 02:37:58,240
private facilities that were unable to

3952
02:37:58,240 --> 02:38:01,800
accommodate our needs just 2 years ago?

3953
02:38:01,800 --> 02:38:04,560
Because in third 2036, we may be able to

3954
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:06,400
acquire the land and we may be able to

3955
02:38:06,400 --> 02:38:09,000
have the I'm sure sustain substantially

3956
02:38:09,000 --> 02:38:10,760
larger amount of money we need to build

3957
02:38:10,760 --> 02:38:12,640
the twin pad because it will be more

3958
02:38:12,640 --> 02:38:15,280
expensive in 10 years. And a twin pad is

3959
02:38:15,280 --> 02:38:17,560
substantially more expensive

3960
02:38:17,560 --> 02:38:19,320
than a single pad.

3961
02:38:19,320 --> 02:38:21,680
And it's not DC funded. Whether we move

3962
02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:24,200
it to another location, it is still a

3963
02:38:24,200 --> 02:38:26,920
redevelopment project.

3964
02:38:26,920 --> 02:38:28,640
The staff recommendation mentions

3965
02:38:28,640 --> 02:38:30,680
additional additionary preliminary

3966
02:38:30,680 --> 02:38:32,880
design and due diligence.

3967
02:38:32,880 --> 02:38:35,320
With all due respect, how much due

3968
02:38:35,320 --> 02:38:37,880
diligence is enough? If 20 years of

3969
02:38:37,880 --> 02:38:39,880
studies, consultations, reports,

3970
02:38:39,880 --> 02:38:42,800
presentations, public meetings, surveys,

3971
02:38:42,800 --> 02:38:46,000
task force input, and community input is

3972
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:48,360
not enough to make a decision, then when

3973
02:38:48,360 --> 02:38:49,560
will it be?

3974
02:38:49,560 --> 02:38:52,160
5 years from now? 10 years from now?

3975
02:38:52,160 --> 02:38:54,240
At some point due diligence stops being

3976
02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:56,280
a safeguard and starts becoming a

3977
02:38:56,280 --> 02:38:58,400
substitute for leadership.

3978
02:38:58,400 --> 02:38:59,720
The people of Beaton have done

3979
02:38:59,720 --> 02:39:01,520
everything we asked of them.

3980
02:39:01,520 --> 02:39:03,400
They've attended meetings, completed

3981
02:39:03,400 --> 02:39:05,680
surveys multiple times.

3982
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:06,680
They've participated in the

3983
02:39:06,680 --> 02:39:08,520
consultations, They've watched the

3984
02:39:08,520 --> 02:39:10,800
project pass through multiple councils,

3985
02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:13,120
multiple studies, multiple rounds of

3986
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:15,560
review. We've approved development on

3987
02:39:15,560 --> 02:39:17,720
the books that doubles our current size

3988
02:39:17,720 --> 02:39:19,920
in Beeton, and this is a redevelopment

3989
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:22,360
project. It's

3990
02:39:22,360 --> 02:39:24,800
It's a redevelopment project.

3991
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:26,600
I don't believe Beeton's looking for

3992
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:28,840
another report. I believe the people are

3993
02:39:28,840 --> 02:39:30,840
looking for a decision.

3994
02:39:30,840 --> 02:39:33,840
And if council is prepared

3995
02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:36,200
to support other projects, which it

3996
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:37,680
seems like they are with some due

3997
02:39:37,680 --> 02:39:40,800
diligence in the budget,

3998
02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:43,480
then I believe that this project

3999
02:39:43,480 --> 02:39:46,520
shouldn't be asked to wait any longer.

4000
02:39:46,520 --> 02:39:47,960
I think the only thing that will get us

4001
02:39:47,960 --> 02:39:49,760
somewhere tonight with all of these

4002
02:39:49,760 --> 02:39:51,960
projects is for me to put the following

4003
02:39:51,960 --> 02:39:54,320
motion on the table and ask my council

4004
02:39:54,320 --> 02:39:57,360
colleagues for their support.

4005
02:39:57,360 --> 02:39:59,440
So, I have the following motion. And

4006
02:39:59,440 --> 02:40:01,120
further that council approve option

4007
02:40:01,120 --> 02:40:03,360
three, arena model for the redevelopment

4008
02:40:03,360 --> 02:40:06,200
of the Beeton Community Centre, modified

4009
02:40:06,200 --> 02:40:08,760
to include a community-size ice surface

4010
02:40:08,760 --> 02:40:11,160
in place of the NHL-size ice surface

4011
02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:12,720
contemplated within the preliminary

4012
02:40:12,720 --> 02:40:14,240
concept.

4013
02:40:14,240 --> 02:40:15,720
And further that council approve the

4014
02:40:15,720 --> 02:40:17,560
Beeton Community Centre redevelopment

4015
02:40:17,560 --> 02:40:20,280
project with an estimated capital budget

4016
02:40:20,280 --> 02:40:23,600
based upon option three, being

4017
02:40:23,600 --> 02:40:28,070
I'm going to say 45,778,653

4018
02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:29,760
because the two There was two numbers,

4019
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:31,800
actually, one from the presentation and

4020
02:40:31,800 --> 02:40:35,160
one that was provided um in the report,

4021
02:40:35,160 --> 02:40:37,840
exclusive of soft costs, together with

4022
02:40:37,840 --> 02:40:40,280
the associated 15% soft costs to be

4023
02:40:40,280 --> 02:40:42,040
incorporated into the final project

4024
02:40:42,040 --> 02:40:43,320
budget.

4025
02:40:43,320 --> 02:40:44,640
And further that council approve the

4026
02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:46,520
financing strategy for the Beeton

4027
02:40:46,520 --> 02:40:48,560
Community Centre redevelopment project

4028
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:50,080
through a combination of development

4029
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:52,280
charges, which we know we've set aside

4030
02:40:52,280 --> 02:40:53,960
in the 2020

4031
02:40:53,960 --> 02:40:57,040
four budget for this project, reserve

4032
02:40:57,040 --> 02:40:59,920
funds, which we currently have in the

4033
02:40:59,920 --> 02:41:01,280
amount of I

4034
02:41:01,280 --> 02:41:04,480
believe around $750,000

4035
02:41:04,480 --> 02:41:07,000
and debenture financing and direct staff

4036
02:41:07,000 --> 02:41:09,480
to pursue grant funding, sponsorship

4037
02:41:09,480 --> 02:41:10,960
opportunities, fundraising

4038
02:41:10,960 --> 02:41:13,600
contributions, which we know FAB is

4039
02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:16,000
uh currently having

4040
02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:17,560
that they currently have

4041
02:41:17,560 --> 02:41:19,560
and any other external funding sources

4042
02:41:19,560 --> 02:41:21,320
that may reduce the municipal share of

4043
02:41:21,320 --> 02:41:23,760
project costs. And further that council

4044
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:25,320
authorize and direct staff to proceed

4045
02:41:25,320 --> 02:41:27,120
with detailed design and construction of

4046
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:28,240
the Beeton Community Centre

4047
02:41:28,240 --> 02:41:30,520
Redevelopment Project in accordance with

4048
02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:32,880
the approved project scope.

4049
02:41:32,880 --> 02:41:34,480
And further that the approved project

4050
02:41:34,480 --> 02:41:36,320
scope shall include a single community

4051
02:41:36,320 --> 02:41:37,920
size ice surface together with

4052
02:41:37,920 --> 02:41:40,360
associated community center amenities

4053
02:41:40,360 --> 02:41:42,520
and support spaces substantially

4054
02:41:42,520 --> 02:41:44,680
consistent with option three

4055
02:41:44,680 --> 02:41:46,200
in the facility program presented to

4056
02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:47,520
council.

4057
02:41:47,520 --> 02:41:49,680
And further that staff shall incorporate

4058
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:50,760
the Beeton Community Centre

4059
02:41:50,760 --> 02:41:54,120
Redevelopment Project into the 2027

4060
02:41:54,120 --> 02:41:55,920
capital budget and long-term financial

4061
02:41:55,920 --> 02:41:59,320
plan as a committed capital project. And

4062
02:41:59,320 --> 02:42:00,920
further that the Beeton Community Centre

4063
02:42:00,920 --> 02:42:02,880
Redevelopment Project shall be

4064
02:42:02,880 --> 02:42:05,240
designated as the town's next recreation

4065
02:42:05,240 --> 02:42:08,600
capital construction priority.

4066
02:42:08,600 --> 02:42:10,320
And staff shall prioritize project

4067
02:42:10,320 --> 02:42:12,200
implementation, financing, grant

4068
02:42:12,200 --> 02:42:13,840
applications, detailed design, and

4069
02:42:13,840 --> 02:42:16,360
construction scheduling accordingly.

4070
02:42:16,360 --> 02:42:19,120
And further that where staff identify

4071
02:42:19,120 --> 02:42:21,680
any ambiguity in the interpretation or

4072
02:42:21,680 --> 02:42:23,960
implementation of this resolution,

4073
02:42:23,960 --> 02:42:25,880
staff's staff shall seek direction and

4074
02:42:25,880 --> 02:42:29,760
clarification for council.

4075
02:42:29,760 --> 02:42:33,052
from council.

4076
02:42:33,062 --> 02:42:38,470
» [applause]

4077
02:42:38,480 --> 02:42:40,640
» Okay. Do we have a second to get that on

4078
02:42:40,640 --> 02:42:42,880
the floor to open it up, please?

4079
02:42:42,880 --> 02:42:47,600
Uh Councillor Masters and then I'll go

4080
02:42:47,600 --> 02:42:49,600
to the Deputy Mayor. Go ahead, Deputy.

4081
02:42:49,600 --> 02:42:50,360
Um

4082
02:42:50,360 --> 02:42:52,040
Oh, okay. Sorry. Councillor Masters,

4083
02:42:52,040 --> 02:42:54,000
then.

4084
02:42:54,000 --> 02:42:56,390
>> Oh, sorry.

4085
02:42:56,390 --> 02:42:56,400
» Oh, sorry.

4086
02:42:56,400 --> 02:42:59,360
No, it's yeah, I'll second it. Yeah.

4087
02:42:59,360 --> 02:43:00,760
Okay, is there any comments and

4088
02:43:00,760 --> 02:43:03,080
questions in regards to the motion?

4089
02:43:03,080 --> 02:43:05,120
Uh Council Jackson.

4090
02:43:05,120 --> 02:43:07,950
>> Thank you your worship. Through you also

4091
02:43:07,950 --> 02:43:07,960
» Thank you your worship. Through you also

4092
02:43:07,960 --> 02:43:11,160
someone in support of

4093
02:43:11,160 --> 02:43:13,560
moving forward a project in Beeton and I

4094
02:43:13,560 --> 02:43:15,880
definitely am in support. I just want to

4095
02:43:15,880 --> 02:43:17,560
say this before

4096
02:43:17,560 --> 02:43:21,000
the rest of my comments of ice in Beeton

4097
02:43:21,000 --> 02:43:23,320
or a pad in Beeton.

4098
02:43:23,320 --> 02:43:25,720
My question is really born from

4099
02:43:25,720 --> 02:43:28,800
curiosity as I don't know if all of the

4100
02:43:28,800 --> 02:43:31,600
public realizes we just saw these

4101
02:43:31,600 --> 02:43:33,920
numbers a week ago. Like when the agenda

4102
02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:35,640
got published, this is the first time

4103
02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:38,240
that we have looked at this from the

4104
02:43:38,240 --> 02:43:41,360
lens that you have as well. And so

4105
02:43:41,360 --> 02:43:43,600
looking at the comparison table, what

4106
02:43:43,600 --> 02:43:45,800
struck me

4107
02:43:45,800 --> 02:43:48,560
beyond the price tags, but I digress,

4108
02:43:48,560 --> 02:43:52,920
was actually the displacement of ice.

4109
02:43:52,920 --> 02:43:57,200
And so scenario three is

4110
02:43:57,200 --> 02:44:00,640
certainly the Beeton community is

4111
02:44:00,640 --> 02:44:02,120
deserving

4112
02:44:02,120 --> 02:44:05,400
of a brand new facility, but I'm just

4113
02:44:05,400 --> 02:44:07,440
curious and I don't know where to direct

4114
02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:09,400
the question to you, but the implication

4115
02:44:09,400 --> 02:44:11,760
of three years

4116
02:44:11,760 --> 02:44:14,040
three years of ice

4117
02:44:14,040 --> 02:44:17,000
displacement, that that's significant.

4118
02:44:17,000 --> 02:44:20,160
We know that two seasons ago

4119
02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:22,760
when the trusses were being repaired and

4120
02:44:22,760 --> 02:44:26,120
there was no access yes, of course

4121
02:44:26,120 --> 02:44:28,120
everybody came together and managed as

4122
02:44:28,120 --> 02:44:32,600
best as they could. But I remember the

4123
02:44:32,600 --> 02:44:34,400
the stress that that put on the user

4124
02:44:34,400 --> 02:44:37,920
groups and the staff and everybody

4125
02:44:37,920 --> 02:44:41,480
trying to accommodate. And as Donna said

4126
02:44:41,480 --> 02:44:42,880
earlier

4127
02:44:42,880 --> 02:44:47,000
are we certain that these groups have

4128
02:44:47,000 --> 02:44:51,080
access paid for access to ice for three

4129
02:44:51,080 --> 02:44:52,640
years and

4130
02:44:52,640 --> 02:44:55,200
um and this is of no disrespect or

4131
02:44:55,200 --> 02:44:58,000
disregard to anyone's expertise, but 3

4132
02:44:58,000 --> 02:45:00,000
years provided everything works out the

4133
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:01,840
way it's supposed to.

4134
02:45:01,840 --> 02:45:04,400
And all the elements of large-scale

4135
02:45:04,400 --> 02:45:06,480
construction go to plan.

4136
02:45:06,480 --> 02:45:09,000
And everything just works out exactly.

4137
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:11,360
What if it's four seasons?

4138
02:45:11,360 --> 02:45:14,240
So, the only reason why looking at all

4139
02:45:14,240 --> 02:45:15,840
these considerations, I thought to

4140
02:45:15,840 --> 02:45:16,960
myself,

4141
02:45:16,960 --> 02:45:20,200
I'm not a you part of a user group or

4142
02:45:20,200 --> 02:45:23,960
and neither is my child who requires

4143
02:45:23,960 --> 02:45:25,680
access to ice.

4144
02:45:25,680 --> 02:45:28,640
Is the same passion do we still have the

4145
02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:31,800
same passion for scenario three

4146
02:45:31,800 --> 02:45:34,320
given there is going to be a minimum of

4147
02:45:34,320 --> 02:45:36,760
three seasons that we cannot access that

4148
02:45:36,760 --> 02:45:39,600
ice pad or dry pad, whatever way the

4149
02:45:39,600 --> 02:45:40,840
pad.

4150
02:45:40,840 --> 02:45:44,760
Uh is it still the option that that is

4151
02:45:44,760 --> 02:45:48,160
uh best serving for the community?

4152
02:45:48,160 --> 02:45:49,240
Thank you.

4153
02:45:49,240 --> 02:45:51,270
>> Thank you, Councillor Jacks. Um

4154
02:45:51,270 --> 02:45:51,280
» Thank you, Councillor Jacks. Um

4155
02:45:51,280 --> 02:45:53,200
Councillor Harrison MacIntyre was next,

4156
02:45:53,200 --> 02:45:55,120
please.

4157
02:45:55,120 --> 02:45:56,190
>> Am I Am I on mute?

4158
02:45:56,190 --> 02:45:56,200
» Am I Am I on mute?

4159
02:45:56,200 --> 02:45:58,190
>> a question that's going to get answered?

4160
02:45:58,190 --> 02:45:58,200
» a question that's going to get answered?

4161
02:45:58,200 --> 02:45:59,990
>> Sure. Thank you. I will direct it over

4162
02:45:59,990 --> 02:46:00,000
» Sure. Thank you. I will direct it over

4163
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:01,920
to uh

4164
02:46:01,920 --> 02:46:03,720
Director Mops, please. If you'd like to

4165
02:46:03,720 --> 02:46:05,280
go ahead.

4166
02:46:05,280 --> 02:46:07,110
>> Thank you, Your Worship. To um to

4167
02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:07,120
» Thank you, Your Worship. To um to

4168
02:46:07,120 --> 02:46:08,480
Councillor Jacks, I'll ask Perkins and

4169
02:46:08,480 --> 02:46:10,480
Will uh to answer this question. Philip,

4170
02:46:10,480 --> 02:46:15,470
did you want to take this or John?

4171
02:46:15,480 --> 02:46:16,640
» Your Worship, thank you for the

4172
02:46:16,640 --> 02:46:17,760
question.

4173
02:46:17,760 --> 02:46:19,480
Um

4174
02:46:19,480 --> 02:46:21,480
it it's it there's a little bit of

4175
02:46:21,480 --> 02:46:23,560
Hobson's choice in that it committing to

4176
02:46:23,560 --> 02:46:25,600
that site means there needs to be you

4177
02:46:25,600 --> 02:46:27,040
need to build on top of the existing

4178
02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:28,080
arena.

4179
02:46:28,080 --> 02:46:29,720
And so, ultimately you've raised the

4180
02:46:29,720 --> 02:46:31,480
raised the critical issue which isn't

4181
02:46:31,480 --> 02:46:33,080
and that was part of our purpose of

4182
02:46:33,080 --> 02:46:34,640
putting the numbers and the qualitative

4183
02:46:34,640 --> 02:46:37,640
stuff in the presentation is that

4184
02:46:37,640 --> 02:46:40,080
it does require a strategy to either

4185
02:46:40,080 --> 02:46:42,600
accept that the reduction in service.

4186
02:46:42,600 --> 02:46:43,600
So,

4187
02:46:43,600 --> 02:46:45,320
uh that might mean bigger drive times

4188
02:46:45,320 --> 02:46:48,040
for people to to uh to access ice

4189
02:46:48,040 --> 02:46:49,720
elsewhere in the region

4190
02:46:49,720 --> 02:46:52,080
or an an aggressive approach to try and

4191
02:46:52,080 --> 02:46:53,760
purchase ice time.

4192
02:46:53,760 --> 02:46:55,640
That might be quite expensive. It It

4193
02:46:55,640 --> 02:46:58,000
does get done. And we actually use some

4194
02:46:58,000 --> 02:46:59,680
numbers which were quite high to to

4195
02:46:59,680 --> 02:47:02,040
assume that you need to. But relative to

4196
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:03,920
the other options

4197
02:47:03,920 --> 02:47:07,640
and so the other options being

4198
02:47:07,640 --> 02:47:10,000
go with option one or two

4199
02:47:10,000 --> 02:47:12,160
as it relates to this particular site

4200
02:47:12,160 --> 02:47:13,320
and

4201
02:47:13,320 --> 02:47:15,840
close the arena now. You'd be looking at

4202
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:17,960
potentially 10 years of having to find

4203
02:47:17,960 --> 02:47:20,320
ice which I think is a

4204
02:47:20,320 --> 02:47:22,320
an inordinate risk. It's It's a whole

4205
02:47:22,320 --> 02:47:24,480
generation of of users.

4206
02:47:24,480 --> 02:47:25,680
Um

4207
02:47:25,680 --> 02:47:27,480
So you know that would lead us to say if

4208
02:47:27,480 --> 02:47:29,400
you were if the if the municipality were

4209
02:47:29,400 --> 02:47:31,640
thinking of creating twin ice by about

4210
02:47:31,640 --> 02:47:33,760
2036, you got to bring it forward

4211
02:47:33,760 --> 02:47:35,560
dramatically in order to cut that off.

4212
02:47:35,560 --> 02:47:36,440
So

4213
02:47:36,440 --> 02:47:38,320
as I say it's Hobson's choice out of the

4214
02:47:38,320 --> 02:47:40,920
three options as it relates to

4215
02:47:40,920 --> 02:47:42,560
the loss of ice

4216
02:47:42,560 --> 02:47:44,600
unless you keep the Beaton Memorial

4217
02:47:44,600 --> 02:47:47,720
Arena going and work around it and

4218
02:47:47,720 --> 02:47:49,520
recognize that there is that capital

4219
02:47:49,520 --> 02:47:53,240
cost associated with keeping it then

4220
02:47:53,240 --> 02:47:55,400
option three

4221
02:47:55,400 --> 02:47:58,000
the loss of ice for three years

4222
02:47:58,000 --> 02:47:59,080
um

4223
02:47:59,080 --> 02:48:01,160
is a bit of a rally cry to to get

4224
02:48:01,160 --> 02:48:03,680
through it as fast as you can.

4225
02:48:03,680 --> 02:48:06,110
>> And just a follow up on that. The Sorry

4226
02:48:06,110 --> 02:48:06,120
» And just a follow up on that. The Sorry

4227
02:48:06,120 --> 02:48:07,640
counselor.

4228
02:48:07,640 --> 02:48:10,480
Just the department's also working on

4229
02:48:10,480 --> 02:48:12,920
council approved facility allocation

4230
02:48:12,920 --> 02:48:14,960
policy. So as part of that review then

4231
02:48:14,960 --> 02:48:16,480
we have the opportunity to tighten up a

4232
02:48:16,480 --> 02:48:18,160
little bit and reallocate and find

4233
02:48:18,160 --> 02:48:20,600
efficiencies within our bookings process

4234
02:48:20,600 --> 02:48:22,040
just to make sure that the right groups

4235
02:48:22,040 --> 02:48:24,800
are being prioritized. Um but if we were

4236
02:48:24,800 --> 02:48:26,320
to proceed through construction to your

4237
02:48:26,320 --> 02:48:28,080
point counselor Jackson, likely be two

4238
02:48:28,080 --> 02:48:30,040
seasons out of commission.

4239
02:48:30,040 --> 02:48:32,720
So we would gracefully ask for patience

4240
02:48:32,720 --> 02:48:34,200
from the community while we go through

4241
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,560
that process as well understanding the

4242
02:48:36,560 --> 02:48:38,320
the positive impacts at the end. Just a

4243
02:48:38,320 --> 02:48:39,800
little little bit of pain short term

4244
02:48:39,800 --> 02:48:41,600
pain for long term gain. But we try our

4245
02:48:41,600 --> 02:48:43,280
best to to accommodate as much as

4246
02:48:43,280 --> 02:48:46,030
possible.

4247
02:48:46,040 --> 02:48:46,440
» Is that good?

4248
02:48:46,440 --> 02:48:47,590
>> Supplementary. Yeah, thank you, your

4249
02:48:47,590 --> 02:48:47,600
» Supplementary. Yeah, thank you, your

4250
02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:50,200
worship. Um my second question would be

4251
02:48:50,200 --> 02:48:52,840
then through uh through your worship to

4252
02:48:52,840 --> 02:48:55,000
to staff. Um

4253
02:48:55,000 --> 02:48:59,470
the $15,678,254

4254
02:48:59,480 --> 02:49:03,000
that has been uh proposed here as the

4255
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:05,560
capital cost to uh

4256
02:49:05,560 --> 02:49:09,040
keep um the the existing ice going or

4257
02:49:09,040 --> 02:49:11,080
the BMA going

4258
02:49:11,080 --> 02:49:12,520
uh while

4259
02:49:12,520 --> 02:49:14,920
construction would occur if we went with

4260
02:49:14,920 --> 02:49:17,240
scenario one or two, community centers

4261
02:49:17,240 --> 02:49:21,400
built, ideally a twin pad, um which

4262
02:49:21,400 --> 02:49:24,680
would be also reflective of

4263
02:49:24,680 --> 02:49:27,400
uh the user group demand and growth in

4264
02:49:27,400 --> 02:49:28,840
the area

4265
02:49:28,840 --> 02:49:30,000
is built.

4266
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:32,640
Where did that number come from? Like it

4267
02:49:32,640 --> 02:49:34,280
that that costs more than we're

4268
02:49:34,280 --> 02:49:37,440
proposing to spend on the dome

4269
02:49:37,440 --> 02:49:40,480
to keep the BMA running for 10 years. It

4270
02:49:40,480 --> 02:49:41,520
just

4271
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:44,840
I am not I know nothing, honestly, but

4272
02:49:44,840 --> 02:49:47,120
that seems like an extraordinary cost

4273
02:49:47,120 --> 02:49:49,960
given we haven't spent 10 mi- $15

4274
02:49:49,960 --> 02:49:52,160
million to keep it going for the last 10

4275
02:49:52,160 --> 02:49:53,360
years. Like

4276
02:49:53,360 --> 02:49:56,360
is this just worst-case scenario,

4277
02:49:56,360 --> 02:49:58,800
the trusses all come unbuckled and it

4278
02:49:58,800 --> 02:50:02,120
collapses? It like where $15 million to

4279
02:50:02,120 --> 02:50:04,760
to run that is

4280
02:50:04,760 --> 02:50:07,920
I just help me understand why where that

4281
02:50:07,920 --> 02:50:10,960
What What are we doing?

4282
02:50:10,960 --> 02:50:11,950
>> Director?

4283
02:50:11,950 --> 02:50:11,960
» Director?

4284
02:50:11,960 --> 02:50:13,310
>> Thank you, your worship, to Councillor

4285
02:50:13,310 --> 02:50:13,320
» Thank you, your worship, to Councillor

4286
02:50:13,320 --> 02:50:15,360
Jackson. That figure was pulled from the

4287
02:50:15,360 --> 02:50:17,200
building condition assessments reports

4288
02:50:17,200 --> 02:50:19,600
that was previously provided to council.

4289
02:50:19,600 --> 02:50:21,160
Um you are correct that does identify a

4290
02:50:21,160 --> 02:50:22,680
worst-case scenario, so we're being

4291
02:50:22,680 --> 02:50:24,320
cautious and certainly conservative in

4292
02:50:24,320 --> 02:50:26,520
providing that number. Um but what I

4293
02:50:26,520 --> 02:50:27,840
will say is a couple things. So that

4294
02:50:27,840 --> 02:50:30,240
number is subject to inflation. Um so

4295
02:50:30,240 --> 02:50:32,040
just keep in mind escalation costs as

4296
02:50:32,040 --> 02:50:33,400
well as potential impact of a

4297
02:50:33,400 --> 02:50:35,280
geopolitical crisis or tariffs or

4298
02:50:35,280 --> 02:50:37,480
anything like that. Um and then keep in

4299
02:50:37,480 --> 02:50:39,400
mind these structural implications. So,

4300
02:50:39,400 --> 02:50:41,200
right now, um, there's structural

4301
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:42,680
inspection that will take place every 5

4302
02:50:42,680 --> 02:50:44,720
years, um, recommended by the by the

4303
02:50:44,720 --> 02:50:46,760
engineer. The next um,

4304
02:50:46,760 --> 02:50:48,600
structural inspection, I believe, is

4305
02:50:48,600 --> 02:50:52,280
early 2020 uh, 7. Once that inspection

4306
02:50:52,280 --> 02:50:54,320
takes place, my I would assume it'll

4307
02:50:54,320 --> 02:50:56,680
likely be an annual inspection. Um, so,

4308
02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:59,120
we're really putting in as as much time

4309
02:50:59,120 --> 02:51:00,760
and life into that building as possible,

4310
02:51:00,760 --> 02:51:02,560
but we don't know exactly what that

4311
02:51:02,560 --> 02:51:04,720
structural inspection would identify.

4312
02:51:04,720 --> 02:51:06,040
Um, so, to get an engineer's stamp

4313
02:51:06,040 --> 02:51:07,920
behind it, um, they would need to deem

4314
02:51:07,920 --> 02:51:09,760
it safe for continued use, and that

4315
02:51:09,760 --> 02:51:11,840
would certainly be be an aspect for

4316
02:51:11,840 --> 02:51:14,120
consideration. Um, now, if option number

4317
02:51:14,120 --> 02:51:16,880
one or two was chosen and the BMA

4318
02:51:16,880 --> 02:51:19,520
remained, um, staff would assess the

4319
02:51:19,520 --> 02:51:20,840
merits of the building condition

4320
02:51:20,840 --> 02:51:22,840
assessment. So, if we knew exactly that

4321
02:51:22,840 --> 02:51:25,240
we were advancing a twin pad arena, um,

4322
02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:27,240
and there was a there was a concrete

4323
02:51:27,240 --> 02:51:29,400
plan for acquiring land and constructing

4324
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:31,280
that facility in the future, we would

4325
02:51:31,280 --> 02:51:33,640
know a definite end time for when the

4326
02:51:33,640 --> 02:51:35,640
current BMA would be out of service. So,

4327
02:51:35,640 --> 02:51:37,560
then we could assess exactly what that

4328
02:51:37,560 --> 02:51:39,800
$15 million would look like. If we know

4329
02:51:39,800 --> 02:51:41,360
the end date, then we may choose to

4330
02:51:41,360 --> 02:51:42,920
invest in the in the facility

4331
02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:45,000
differently. Um, would it be $15

4332
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:47,440
million? Probably not. Would it be on

4333
02:51:47,440 --> 02:51:49,600
the low end? Probably not. Um, would it

4334
02:51:49,600 --> 02:51:51,960
be closer to 15? It's probably likely,

4335
02:51:51,960 --> 02:51:53,880
but it's really hard to say with the

4336
02:51:53,880 --> 02:51:55,680
with the crystal ball at at this moment

4337
02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:59,560
in time. Um, so, chosen conservatively.

4338
02:51:59,560 --> 02:52:01,150
>> Thank you, Councillor Harrison McIntyre,

4339
02:52:01,150 --> 02:52:01,160
» Thank you, Councillor Harrison McIntyre,

4340
02:52:01,160 --> 02:52:03,080
please.

4341
02:52:03,080 --> 02:52:06,030
>> Thank you. The motion as put forward by

4342
02:52:06,030 --> 02:52:06,040
» Thank you. The motion as put forward by

4343
02:52:06,040 --> 02:52:09,920
Councillor Cox changes the size of the,

4344
02:52:09,920 --> 02:52:11,000
um,

4345
02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:14,120
rink from, uh, the recommended size, and

4346
02:52:14,120 --> 02:52:16,800
I just wanted to get some, um,

4347
02:52:16,800 --> 02:52:18,880
information because it's it's not a huge

4348
02:52:18,880 --> 02:52:21,280
difference in amount of feet, 25 ft one

4349
02:52:21,280 --> 02:52:22,720
way, um,

4350
02:52:22,720 --> 02:52:24,760
and a little bit more the other way. So,

4351
02:52:24,760 --> 02:52:26,800
I just want to figure out hear from

4352
02:52:26,800 --> 02:52:28,120
staff

4353
02:52:28,120 --> 02:52:30,560
um, what's the cost savings and, um,

4354
02:52:30,560 --> 02:52:33,200
and the what's the rationale,

4355
02:52:33,200 --> 02:52:35,360
For making it the NHL size? Does that

4356
02:52:35,360 --> 02:52:37,240
open it up for more competitions or

4357
02:52:37,240 --> 02:52:38,720
higher level

4358
02:52:38,720 --> 02:52:39,680
playing?

4359
02:52:39,680 --> 02:52:41,840
What's Yeah, just more details on that

4360
02:52:41,840 --> 02:52:44,440
before we move forward agreeing to it.

4361
02:52:44,440 --> 02:52:45,990
>> Thank you. I'll go to the director,

4362
02:52:45,990 --> 02:52:46,000
» Thank you. I'll go to the director,

4363
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:48,760
please and you can either answer or

4364
02:52:48,760 --> 02:52:51,080
assign. Thank you.

4365
02:52:51,080 --> 02:52:53,190
>> Uh thank you, Your Worship, to tell the

4366
02:52:53,190 --> 02:52:53,200
» Uh thank you, Your Worship, to tell the

4367
02:52:53,200 --> 02:52:55,760
counselors. So, in determining or

4368
02:52:55,760 --> 02:52:58,040
recommending NHL size ice, we really

4369
02:52:58,040 --> 02:52:59,440
looked at the history of this project.

4370
02:52:59,440 --> 02:53:01,080
So, if you look at the task force and

4371
02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:02,960
what they were reviewing, there was a

4372
02:53:02,960 --> 02:53:04,760
recommendation and consideration for a

4373
02:53:04,760 --> 02:53:06,640
smaller ice pad back in I think it was

4374
02:53:06,640 --> 02:53:09,600
2018 or 2019. Um the consultant at the

4375
02:53:09,600 --> 02:53:11,600
time came back and he he recommended an

4376
02:53:11,600 --> 02:53:13,480
NHL size pad because that would

4377
02:53:13,480 --> 02:53:16,000
effectively allow the grow the sport to

4378
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:18,240
be able to grow, to be able to mature,

4379
02:53:18,240 --> 02:53:20,840
and uh meet sport play for various age

4380
02:53:20,840 --> 02:53:23,040
groups. Um in addition, when we met with

4381
02:53:23,040 --> 02:53:24,800
user groups, specifically within the ice

4382
02:53:24,800 --> 02:53:27,160
hockey community, they overwhelmingly

4383
02:53:27,160 --> 02:53:29,480
supported NHL ice, um and they went so

4384
02:53:29,480 --> 02:53:31,760
far as saying if it's not NHL, we may

4385
02:53:31,760 --> 02:53:33,720
not be able to use it, in particular for

4386
02:53:33,720 --> 02:53:36,400
the older age groups. Um so, that's just

4387
02:53:36,400 --> 02:53:37,880
trying to right-size the current

4388
02:53:37,880 --> 02:53:39,920
facility and and correct some planning

4389
02:53:39,920 --> 02:53:41,880
that we we may have been done in the

4390
02:53:41,880 --> 02:53:43,440
past and be able to slowly and

4391
02:53:43,440 --> 02:53:46,240
moderately increase service levels. Um

4392
02:53:46,240 --> 02:53:48,320
just in terms of the preliminary design,

4393
02:53:48,320 --> 02:53:50,120
so the the intent of preliminary design

4394
02:53:50,120 --> 02:53:51,840
is to seek feedback and change the

4395
02:53:51,840 --> 02:53:54,560
program based on feedback from council.

4396
02:53:54,560 --> 02:53:56,320
Um if we were to move to a smaller pad,

4397
02:53:56,320 --> 02:53:58,080
um then we'd we would still continue

4398
02:53:58,080 --> 02:53:59,920
with the due diligence for that piece,

4399
02:53:59,920 --> 02:54:01,960
um because revenue may be impacted by a

4400
02:54:01,960 --> 02:54:03,880
smaller pad because we may not have the

4401
02:54:03,880 --> 02:54:05,760
same penetration rate. So, we would

4402
02:54:05,760 --> 02:54:07,480
still just continue with our review. Um

4403
02:54:07,480 --> 02:54:09,040
council could certainly approve today

4404
02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:11,400
and and we would continue, but um it

4405
02:54:11,400 --> 02:54:13,600
probably be welcomed for for council for

4406
02:54:13,600 --> 02:54:15,120
us to come back and be able to tweak

4407
02:54:15,120 --> 02:54:17,360
those numbers based on a a revised

4408
02:54:17,360 --> 02:54:19,000
program for a community size rink,

4409
02:54:19,000 --> 02:54:21,960
should it be approved today.

4410
02:54:21,960 --> 02:54:22,950
>> Okay.

4411
02:54:22,950 --> 02:54:22,960
» Okay.

4412
02:54:22,960 --> 02:54:25,320
Thank you. Uh Deputy Mayor has not

4413
02:54:25,320 --> 02:54:26,880
spoken yet, so go ahead, Deputy Mayor,

4414
02:54:26,880 --> 02:54:28,920
please.

4415
02:54:28,920 --> 02:54:31,310
>> Thank you, Mayor Norcross. Um and and I

4416
02:54:31,310 --> 02:54:31,320
» Thank you, Mayor Norcross. Um and and I

4417
02:54:31,320 --> 02:54:33,360
do want to communicate to everyone that

4418
02:54:33,360 --> 02:54:35,200
I see a place for all three of these

4419
02:54:35,200 --> 02:54:38,040
facilities in our recreation plan.

4420
02:54:38,040 --> 02:54:40,960
Um I I think we've proved that we need

4421
02:54:40,960 --> 02:54:43,440
them and that we want them, but what we

4422
02:54:43,440 --> 02:54:45,000
can't do is pull the trigger on all

4423
02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:48,160
three at once. I mean, me personally

4424
02:54:48,160 --> 02:54:50,400
can't afford the tax increase.

4425
02:54:50,400 --> 02:54:52,840
Um it it would uh

4426
02:54:52,840 --> 02:54:54,760
it would put us too close to our debt

4427
02:54:54,760 --> 02:54:56,600
threshold and unprepared for

4428
02:54:56,600 --> 02:54:58,280
emergencies.

4429
02:54:58,280 --> 02:55:00,720
Uh so that was part of uh the reason

4430
02:55:00,720 --> 02:55:03,280
that I I supported the deferrals. We

4431
02:55:03,280 --> 02:55:04,520
know we're going to grow and we're going

4432
02:55:04,520 --> 02:55:07,120
to grow big and fast, but we're stalled

4433
02:55:07,120 --> 02:55:09,120
right now cuz we have no water. So

4434
02:55:09,120 --> 02:55:11,480
development has been

4435
02:55:11,480 --> 02:55:13,920
almost non-existent in New Tecumseth,

4436
02:55:13,920 --> 02:55:15,480
which means we don't get new residents

4437
02:55:15,480 --> 02:55:17,840
that pay taxes as well. We're not

4438
02:55:17,840 --> 02:55:19,800
getting DCs, the province is chopping

4439
02:55:19,800 --> 02:55:23,680
the DCs. Uh we call rec DCs soft DCs, uh

4440
02:55:23,680 --> 02:55:28,160
not hard DCs like water and roads. Um so

4441
02:55:28,160 --> 02:55:29,640
we just need to separate these out a

4442
02:55:29,640 --> 02:55:31,840
little bit. We can't do all three at

4443
02:55:31,840 --> 02:55:35,520
once. Um so part of my support of of of

4444
02:55:35,520 --> 02:55:38,800
the of the deferral is, you know, we're

4445
02:55:38,800 --> 02:55:40,320
getting close to having some interim

4446
02:55:40,320 --> 02:55:42,960
water, which hopefully then inspires

4447
02:55:42,960 --> 02:55:44,920
some development, which inspires

4448
02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:46,720
taxpayers to move here and development

4449
02:55:46,720 --> 02:55:48,840
charges to be paid.

4450
02:55:48,840 --> 02:55:50,560
Um

4451
02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:52,400
I just I do want to note for the record

4452
02:55:52,400 --> 02:55:54,080
that

4453
02:55:54,080 --> 02:55:56,840
these three on the agenda is I feel

4454
02:55:56,840 --> 02:55:58,960
personally very uncomfortable to be

4455
02:55:58,960 --> 02:56:01,040
doing in the middle of an election

4456
02:56:01,040 --> 02:56:03,160
when we're so soon to having the

4457
02:56:03,160 --> 02:56:05,960
possibility of different

4458
02:56:05,960 --> 02:56:09,800
decision-makers next term and laying

4459
02:56:09,800 --> 02:56:12,120
this all at their feet when we know the

4460
02:56:12,120 --> 02:56:14,240
finances are quite precarious if we do

4461
02:56:14,240 --> 02:56:16,960
all three at once is not something I'm

4462
02:56:16,960 --> 02:56:19,200
I'm super comfortable with.

4463
02:56:19,200 --> 02:56:21,280
Um you know, there's been a lot of talk

4464
02:56:21,280 --> 02:56:23,280
about the the domino effect. We need

4465
02:56:23,280 --> 02:56:25,280
this to happen, so this happens, so that

4466
02:56:25,280 --> 02:56:28,880
happens. And my experience in um the

4467
02:56:28,880 --> 02:56:31,800
municipal world is the dominoes almost

4468
02:56:31,800 --> 02:56:35,320
never fall like you need them to, ever.

4469
02:56:35,320 --> 02:56:39,560
So, I do and and I do feel that our

4470
02:56:39,560 --> 02:56:41,840
whole recreation program has been

4471
02:56:41,840 --> 02:56:44,520
stalled because as

4472
02:56:44,520 --> 02:56:46,920
as it's been referred to before in Town

4473
02:56:46,920 --> 02:56:49,360
of New Tecumseth budgets years ago, the

4474
02:56:49,360 --> 02:56:51,200
white elephant in the room is always the

4475
02:56:51,200 --> 02:56:52,520
beaten arena.

4476
02:56:52,520 --> 02:56:55,280
It's always the beaten arena. So, I feel

4477
02:56:55,280 --> 02:56:57,880
like our whole rec plan has been stalled

4478
02:56:57,880 --> 02:57:00,680
by continuously for literally half my

4479
02:57:00,680 --> 02:57:03,960
entire life of doing nothing. It's time

4480
02:57:03,960 --> 02:57:05,720
to do something. It's time to get

4481
02:57:05,720 --> 02:57:07,680
working on how we make the the sports

4482
02:57:07,680 --> 02:57:10,760
dome and the and the pool work because I

4483
02:57:10,760 --> 02:57:12,920
see them fitting in our rec plan.

4484
02:57:12,920 --> 02:57:16,800
Um so, those are those are my comments.

4485
02:57:16,800 --> 02:57:18,400
Thank you.

4486
02:57:18,400 --> 02:57:20,510
>> Thank you. I'll go to Councillor Masters

4487
02:57:20,510 --> 02:57:20,520
» Thank you. I'll go to Councillor Masters

4488
02:57:20,520 --> 02:57:21,920
and then I'll wrap it up and I'll call

4489
02:57:21,920 --> 02:57:23,320
the vote.

4490
02:57:23,320 --> 02:57:25,510
>> Uh thank you, Worship.

4491
02:57:25,510 --> 02:57:25,520
» Uh thank you, Worship.

4492
02:57:25,520 --> 02:57:27,440
Everything I've heard tonight all makes

4493
02:57:27,440 --> 02:57:30,240
sense. You know, I absolutely approve

4494
02:57:30,240 --> 02:57:32,800
all these three projects.

4495
02:57:32,800 --> 02:57:35,680
They've been needed for a long time.

4496
02:57:35,680 --> 02:57:37,200
I've got two questions. The first

4497
02:57:37,200 --> 02:57:40,760
question is to the the company the

4498
02:57:40,760 --> 02:57:43,120
design guys.

4499
02:57:43,120 --> 02:57:45,880
When Faber originally

4500
02:57:45,880 --> 02:57:50,040
set up set themselves to get this arena

4501
02:57:50,040 --> 02:57:51,320
built,

4502
02:57:51,320 --> 02:57:55,440
they used I think it was James Fryatt

4503
02:57:55,440 --> 02:57:58,120
uh architects to build do the first

4504
02:57:58,120 --> 02:58:01,280
drawing for us and they did. Um

4505
02:58:01,280 --> 02:58:03,160
one of the things that they did was a

4506
02:58:03,160 --> 02:58:06,680
they created created the design for the

4507
02:58:06,680 --> 02:58:08,800
arena to be set back from the main

4508
02:58:08,800 --> 02:58:13,080
street to create a town square so that

4509
02:58:13,080 --> 02:58:17,480
the library and the town hall and was

4510
02:58:17,480 --> 02:58:21,320
and the arena entrance was offset.

4511
02:58:21,320 --> 02:58:22,800
I'm looking at the design right now the

4512
02:58:22,800 --> 02:58:25,200
arena's right on the town right on the

4513
02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:26,840
pavement.

4514
02:58:26,840 --> 02:58:28,720
So you know

4515
02:58:28,720 --> 02:58:31,720
is this because of the the the proposed

4516
02:58:31,720 --> 02:58:35,120
NHL size rink or is that just generally

4517
02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:36,560
where you thought it would be best

4518
02:58:36,560 --> 02:58:38,840
situated? One of the things that we

4519
02:58:38,840 --> 02:58:40,360
always wanted to do with the town of

4520
02:58:40,360 --> 02:58:42,840
Beeton is try and keep its old

4521
02:58:42,840 --> 02:58:45,320
historical look. There's a lot of

4522
02:58:45,320 --> 02:58:48,360
history in that town and and that's when

4523
02:58:48,360 --> 02:58:50,720
the FAB organization came together that

4524
02:58:50,720 --> 02:58:52,640
was a big consideration and that's why

4525
02:58:52,640 --> 02:58:55,200
it was done that way. The town actually

4526
02:58:55,200 --> 02:58:57,920
expropriated those houses in front there

4527
02:58:57,920 --> 02:58:59,640
to make that happen.

4528
02:58:59,640 --> 02:59:02,280
So that's my first question. Is that is

4529
02:59:02,280 --> 02:59:03,640
that because of the ice or is that

4530
02:59:03,640 --> 02:59:05,400
because where you thought it was best to

4531
02:59:05,400 --> 02:59:06,480
put it?

4532
02:59:06,480 --> 02:59:08,120
Um

4533
02:59:08,120 --> 02:59:09,880
The second comment

4534
02:59:09,880 --> 02:59:12,040
I just want to make in general is that

4535
02:59:12,040 --> 02:59:14,640
everybody knows that we

4536
02:59:14,640 --> 02:59:16,680
you know we're we're behind in our

4537
02:59:16,680 --> 02:59:19,000
development and

4538
02:59:19,000 --> 02:59:21,040
I I believe the number that was thrown

4539
02:59:21,040 --> 02:59:23,440
out this year earlier on was that we

4540
02:59:23,440 --> 02:59:25,600
have something like 300 million plus in

4541
02:59:25,600 --> 02:59:27,920
DCs outstanding with houses that have

4542
02:59:27,920 --> 02:59:29,760
been basically approved to be built but

4543
02:59:29,760 --> 02:59:31,920
we can't build them because of water and

4544
02:59:31,920 --> 02:59:34,960
I put that question to the CEO to to

4545
02:59:34,960 --> 02:59:36,760
maybe give us some input on this. So we

4546
02:59:36,760 --> 02:59:39,600
all know that the that

4547
02:59:39,600 --> 02:59:41,640
the New Tecumseth is probably one of the

4548
02:59:41,640 --> 02:59:44,160
fastest growing communities in Canada

4549
02:59:44,160 --> 02:59:47,040
today and we know that there's huge

4550
02:59:47,040 --> 02:59:48,840
development coming here and with it will

4551
02:59:48,840 --> 02:59:51,000
come the money. So what we're I think

4552
02:59:51,000 --> 02:59:52,200
we're looking from a financial

4553
02:59:52,200 --> 02:59:55,480
standpoint is an an interim look and I

4554
02:59:55,480 --> 02:59:58,880
know that we have the new the new

4555
02:59:58,880 --> 03:00:00,200
we've got

4556
03:00:00,200 --> 03:00:01,600
you know maybe new people coming on the

4557
03:00:01,600 --> 03:00:04,400
council next year but I I I think that

4558
03:00:04,400 --> 03:00:06,160
this is a big number. I wouldn't want to

4559
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:08,560
put that on to new people coming in here

4560
03:00:08,560 --> 03:00:10,240
and and trying to make that kind of

4561
03:00:10,240 --> 03:00:12,400
decision you know.

4562
03:00:12,400 --> 03:00:15,080
But anyway, so that's my two questions.

4563
03:00:15,080 --> 03:00:17,080
The one is on where why are we up

4564
03:00:17,080 --> 03:00:20,080
against the the the sidewalk in beaten

4565
03:00:20,080 --> 03:00:22,520
and number two is, you know, where are

4566
03:00:22,520 --> 03:00:25,400
we with our with our the books right now

4567
03:00:25,400 --> 03:00:27,680
financially as far as

4568
03:00:27,680 --> 03:00:28,840
the development that's sitting on the

4569
03:00:28,840 --> 03:00:30,280
books right now to be built that once

4570
03:00:30,280 --> 03:00:32,600
that water hits that, you know, how much

4571
03:00:32,600 --> 03:00:34,440
are we looking at and DC's coming in

4572
03:00:34,440 --> 03:00:36,080
right now. That's my second question.

4573
03:00:36,080 --> 03:00:37,400
Thank you.

4574
03:00:37,400 --> 03:00:40,950
>> Thank you. I'm going to go to um

4575
03:00:40,950 --> 03:00:40,960
» Thank you. I'm going to go to um

4576
03:00:40,960 --> 03:00:42,800
I'm going to go to the CAO cuz maybe you

4577
03:00:42,800 --> 03:00:45,560
could answer the first question is

4578
03:00:45,560 --> 03:00:47,720
what is water available for development

4579
03:00:47,720 --> 03:00:48,880
right now? I believe is what you're

4580
03:00:48,880 --> 03:00:50,520
asking, counselor.

4581
03:00:50,520 --> 03:00:54,550
Or when is it available? Go ahead.

4582
03:00:54,560 --> 03:00:56,560
Yeah, I think the CAO has it.

4583
03:00:56,560 --> 03:00:58,990
>> So through you, Mr. Mayor, to the

4584
03:00:58,990 --> 03:00:59,000
» So through you, Mr. Mayor, to the

4585
03:00:59,000 --> 03:01:01,680
counselor, um interim water actually

4586
03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:04,880
will flow starting tomorrow or actually

4587
03:01:04,880 --> 03:01:06,720
yesterday.

4588
03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:09,240
It's available now. So there is some

4589
03:01:09,240 --> 03:01:11,000
there is available

4590
03:01:11,000 --> 03:01:11,640
uh

4591
03:01:11,640 --> 03:01:13,120
water for

4592
03:01:13,120 --> 03:01:16,480
I think it's around 2,500 units.

4593
03:01:16,480 --> 03:01:18,320
Uh so that is not a barrier to

4594
03:01:18,320 --> 03:01:19,960
development. More of the economy is a

4595
03:01:19,960 --> 03:01:21,320
barrier to development than anything

4596
03:01:21,320 --> 03:01:22,600
else.

4597
03:01:22,600 --> 03:01:24,760
Uh as far as forecasted development

4598
03:01:24,760 --> 03:01:27,160
charges, I would have to

4599
03:01:27,160 --> 03:01:29,840
defer that to to to our treasurer.

4600
03:01:29,840 --> 03:01:32,270
>> Okay, so the water is flowing today, so

4601
03:01:32,270 --> 03:01:32,280
» Okay, so the water is flowing today, so

4602
03:01:32,280 --> 03:01:34,760
that's fine then. Director Gallant, can

4603
03:01:34,760 --> 03:01:38,870
I refer that second question to you?

4604
03:01:38,880 --> 03:01:41,920
» Yes, thank you, your worship. Um

4605
03:01:41,920 --> 03:01:44,720
if we're if we're assuming 500 new units

4606
03:01:44,720 --> 03:01:47,880
would come in the short term, um we'd be

4607
03:01:47,880 --> 03:01:50,800
looking at approximately 47 and 1/2

4608
03:01:50,800 --> 03:01:53,280
million dollars in development charges.

4609
03:01:53,280 --> 03:01:55,280
Um one of the points you raised, which I

4610
03:01:55,280 --> 03:01:57,080
think related to the development charge

4611
03:01:57,080 --> 03:01:59,720
credits we have on the books. So we do

4612
03:01:59,720 --> 03:02:01,600
have some infrastructure that developers

4613
03:02:01,600 --> 03:02:05,160
have built um in exchange for being able

4614
03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:07,640
to offset their permit development

4615
03:02:07,640 --> 03:02:09,920
charge fees. So, we have approximately

4616
03:02:09,920 --> 03:02:11,880
$33 million

4617
03:02:11,880 --> 03:02:14,560
outstanding in DC credits that would

4618
03:02:14,560 --> 03:02:18,680
offset a portion of this $47 Sorry, $47

4619
03:02:18,680 --> 03:02:21,000
million.

4620
03:02:21,000 --> 03:02:22,750
>> Okay, that's fine. Thank you. I'm going

4621
03:02:22,750 --> 03:02:22,760
» Okay, that's fine. Thank you. I'm going

4622
03:02:22,760 --> 03:02:25,600
to go to Deputy Clerk, please. Um

4623
03:02:25,600 --> 03:02:26,880
Councillor Harrison McIntyre, then I'm

4624
03:02:26,880 --> 03:02:29,880
going to call the vote, please.

4625
03:02:29,880 --> 03:02:31,560
Sorry, what was Sorry, 1 second,

4626
03:02:31,560 --> 03:02:32,880
Councillor.

4627
03:02:32,880 --> 03:02:34,640
Sorry, I apologize. I apologize. Your

4628
03:02:34,640 --> 03:02:36,360
second question is why is it moved up to

4629
03:02:36,360 --> 03:02:38,200
the sidewalk? I think that was just a

4630
03:02:38,200 --> 03:02:40,160
proposal or do you have a a quick

4631
03:02:40,160 --> 03:02:42,040
answer, please?

4632
03:02:42,040 --> 03:02:42,720
Go ahead.

4633
03:02:42,720 --> 03:02:44,950
>> Through the worship to council. So,

4634
03:02:44,950 --> 03:02:44,960
» Through the worship to council. So,

4635
03:02:44,960 --> 03:02:46,480
um you might have

4636
03:02:46,480 --> 03:02:48,240
remember in the presentation we gave, we

4637
03:02:48,240 --> 03:02:50,680
talked about 15 m setback from the

4638
03:02:50,680 --> 03:02:52,360
watercourse on the west side of the

4639
03:02:52,360 --> 03:02:55,840
site. So, that does encroach on the

4640
03:02:55,840 --> 03:02:57,360
length of the building and how far we

4641
03:02:57,360 --> 03:02:59,520
can push off Main Street.

4642
03:02:59,520 --> 03:03:02,520
Um if the option is pursued more, we can

4643
03:03:02,520 --> 03:03:04,320
dig into that setback and get more

4644
03:03:04,320 --> 03:03:06,200
information and then that could

4645
03:03:06,200 --> 03:03:08,440
influence where we're positioning it and

4646
03:03:08,440 --> 03:03:11,000
how close it becomes to Main Street. So,

4647
03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:13,360
I wouldn't say that exact frontage is

4648
03:03:13,360 --> 03:03:16,400
fixed, um but it is influenced by that

4649
03:03:16,400 --> 03:03:18,720
setback watercourse condition.

4650
03:03:18,720 --> 03:03:20,230
>> Thank you very much. Oh, Councillor

4651
03:03:20,230 --> 03:03:20,240
» Thank you very much. Oh, Councillor

4652
03:03:20,240 --> 03:03:21,680
Harrison McIntyre, please, and then I'll

4653
03:03:21,680 --> 03:03:22,880
call the vote.

4654
03:03:22,880 --> 03:03:23,870
>> Thank you. I just wanted to make a

4655
03:03:23,870 --> 03:03:23,880
» Thank you. I just wanted to make a

4656
03:03:23,880 --> 03:03:26,840
friendly amendment to the motion that um

4657
03:03:26,840 --> 03:03:29,960
the sizing of the arena is

4658
03:03:29,960 --> 03:03:34,200
um still to be determined.

4659
03:03:34,200 --> 03:03:36,240
When Councillor Cox said community

4660
03:03:36,240 --> 03:03:37,760
sized, I don't know if that's a

4661
03:03:37,760 --> 03:03:40,440
technical term or if it's just

4662
03:03:40,440 --> 03:03:41,240
um

4663
03:03:41,240 --> 03:03:43,040
looking for feedback from the community.

4664
03:03:43,040 --> 03:03:44,840
So, that's what I want to have a little

4665
03:03:44,840 --> 03:03:47,680
bit more discussion on um and find out

4666
03:03:47,680 --> 03:03:49,600
do all of our user groups want it the

4667
03:03:49,600 --> 03:03:52,920
NHL size or is um a smaller size better

4668
03:03:52,920 --> 03:03:55,120
for the ball hockey? And so, I don't

4669
03:03:55,120 --> 03:03:56,960
want to decide on the size right now.

4670
03:03:56,960 --> 03:03:59,920
Just I want to move forward with the

4671
03:03:59,920 --> 03:04:02,520
motion otherwise with everything else as

4672
03:04:02,520 --> 03:04:03,080
is.

4673
03:04:03,080 --> 03:04:04,630
>> Thank you. Um

4674
03:04:04,630 --> 03:04:04,640
» Thank you. Um

4675
03:04:04,640 --> 03:04:06,560
I'll go to Councillor Cox. Do you accept

4676
03:04:06,560 --> 03:04:08,120
a friendly amendment?

4677
03:04:08,120 --> 03:04:10,070
>> I do. It's not a technical term.

4678
03:04:10,070 --> 03:04:10,080
» I do. It's not a technical term.

4679
03:04:10,080 --> 03:04:12,030
>> Thank you. Deputy

4680
03:04:12,030 --> 03:04:12,040
» Thank you. Deputy

4681
03:04:12,040 --> 03:04:13,600
Sorry, Councillor Masters, do you accept

4682
03:04:13,600 --> 03:04:17,200
that? Okay, thank you. So

4683
03:04:17,200 --> 03:04:18,560
the motion's on the floor. You have that

4684
03:04:18,560 --> 03:04:20,200
motion.

4685
03:04:20,200 --> 03:04:23,360
Uh Madam Clerk, and sorry, Director

4686
03:04:23,360 --> 03:04:26,320
Hobbs, please. Mops.

4687
03:04:26,320 --> 03:04:28,270
>> Sorry, Mayor Mayor Norcross, it's for

4688
03:04:28,270 --> 03:04:28,280
» Sorry, Mayor Mayor Norcross, it's for

4689
03:04:28,280 --> 03:04:30,000
you to Councillor Cox. Councillor Cox,

4690
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:31,680
I'm just hoping if it's possible to add

4691
03:04:31,680 --> 03:04:33,400
some specific language to the grant

4692
03:04:33,400 --> 03:04:35,520
request, and the reason being is staff

4693
03:04:35,520 --> 03:04:36,720
would like to

4694
03:04:36,720 --> 03:04:38,600
pursue grants opportunities, should this

4695
03:04:38,600 --> 03:04:39,960
be passed.

4696
03:04:39,960 --> 03:04:41,440
So I'm hoping that council would

4697
03:04:41,440 --> 03:04:43,720
consider further that council directs

4698
03:04:43,720 --> 03:04:45,880
staff to apply for all available grant

4699
03:04:45,880 --> 03:04:47,680
funding opportunities

4700
03:04:47,680 --> 03:04:49,720
for the project,

4701
03:04:49,720 --> 03:04:51,720
um including, but not limited to, the

4702
03:04:51,720 --> 03:04:53,320
Build Community Strong Fund Direct

4703
03:04:53,320 --> 03:04:54,800
Delivery Stream, the Enabling

4704
03:04:54,800 --> 03:04:56,720
Accessibility Fund, the Green Municipal

4705
03:04:56,720 --> 03:04:58,000
Fund, and the Community Sport and

4706
03:04:58,000 --> 03:05:00,400
Recreation Infrastructure Fund Stream 2,

4707
03:05:00,400 --> 03:05:01,960
as well as other partnerships and

4708
03:05:01,960 --> 03:05:03,480
program opportunities. And the reason

4709
03:05:03,480 --> 03:05:05,120
being is we removed that language

4710
03:05:05,120 --> 03:05:07,000
directly from the the grant opportunity.

4711
03:05:07,000 --> 03:05:09,120
So just allow staff to be able to to

4712
03:05:09,120 --> 03:05:11,120
pursue those those opportunities.

4713
03:05:11,120 --> 03:05:14,110
>> Is it possible to leave it that any and

4714
03:05:14,110 --> 03:05:14,120
» Is it possible to leave it that any and

4715
03:05:14,120 --> 03:05:16,440
all grants that are available from any

4716
03:05:16,440 --> 03:05:18,600
level of government that we will pursue?

4717
03:05:18,600 --> 03:05:20,200
Would that be sufficient, or do you need

4718
03:05:20,200 --> 03:05:22,200
that to be specific?

4719
03:05:22,200 --> 03:05:23,400
Cuz there's no way the clerk's going to

4720
03:05:23,400 --> 03:05:25,600
catch all that right now. So go ahead,

4721
03:05:25,600 --> 03:05:27,200
Director Mops.

4722
03:05:27,200 --> 03:05:29,070
>> If it's okay with you, Mayor Norcross,

4723
03:05:29,070 --> 03:05:29,080
» If it's okay with you, Mayor Norcross,

4724
03:05:29,080 --> 03:05:30,960
if I send that to the clerk to include

4725
03:05:30,960 --> 03:05:32,600
afterwards, just the language was

4726
03:05:32,600 --> 03:05:34,440
specifically um

4727
03:05:34,440 --> 03:05:36,280
uh required for the grant applications.

4728
03:05:36,280 --> 03:05:37,800
So I can forward it to you afterwards.

4729
03:05:37,800 --> 03:05:39,430
>> Thank you, Council. Is everybody in

4730
03:05:39,430 --> 03:05:39,440
» Thank you, Council. Is everybody in

4731
03:05:39,440 --> 03:05:40,760
agreement with that? That it will be

4732
03:05:40,760 --> 03:05:42,400
sent later?

4733
03:05:42,400 --> 03:05:44,200
Okay, and Councillor Cox, you agree. So

4734
03:05:44,200 --> 03:05:46,120
we have a motion duly moved and

4735
03:05:46,120 --> 03:05:50,790
seconded. All those in favor, please.

4736
03:05:50,800 --> 03:05:55,040
1 2 3 4 5 6.

4737
03:05:55,040 --> 03:05:57,400
So so it

4738
03:05:57,400 --> 03:05:59,360
the motion passes.

4739
03:05:59,360 --> 03:06:09,230
Okay.

4740
03:06:09,240 --> 03:06:10,840
Well, thank you everybody for coming out

4741
03:06:10,840 --> 03:06:14,600
tonight and we greatly appreciate it.

4742
03:06:14,600 --> 03:06:22,110
And um

4743
03:06:22,120 --> 03:06:24,840
Joy have a a confirming bylaw sorry of

4744
03:06:24,840 --> 03:06:26,840
just 20 seconds.

4745
03:06:26,840 --> 03:06:29,760
Be resolved the bylaw 2026-058

4746
03:06:29,760 --> 03:06:31,360
to confirm the proceedings of special

4747
03:06:31,360 --> 03:06:34,120
counsel at its meeting on June 17, 2026

4748
03:06:34,120 --> 03:06:35,800
be read a first

4749
03:06:35,800 --> 03:06:37,920
second and third time and enacted.

4750
03:06:37,920 --> 03:06:39,200
Counselor Rappin, would you move that?

4751
03:06:39,200 --> 03:06:40,400
Thank you. Counselor Gabrick, would you

4752
03:06:40,400 --> 03:06:41,760
second that?

4753
03:06:41,760 --> 03:06:44,200
Thank you. All those in favor?

4754
03:06:44,200 --> 03:06:45,720
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to

4755
03:06:45,720 --> 03:06:47,040
everybody that came out tonight,

4756
03:06:47,040 --> 03:06:48,600
expressed your opinions, and gave so

4757
03:06:48,600 --> 03:06:50,760
freely of your time. We've moved

4758
03:06:50,760 --> 03:06:53,074
forward.

4759
03:06:53,074 --> 03:06:54,830
>> [applause]

4760
03:06:54,830 --> 03:06:54,840
» [applause]

4761
03:06:54,840 --> 03:06:57,310
>> So, we have a German be resolved the

4762
03:06:57,310 --> 03:06:57,320
» So, we have a German be resolved the

4763
03:06:57,320 --> 03:07:00,160
meeting adjourned at 8:05

4764
03:07:00,160 --> 03:07:01,600
and uh

4765
03:07:01,600 --> 03:07:04,240
Counselor Cox and Counselor Best.

4766
03:07:04,240 --> 03:07:08,040
All those in favor? Thank you.