1 00:00:04,820 --> 00:00:15,940 I'm jury buying and working for the city's planning office. I know some of you out there and don't know others. I've been working for city to report for 25 years. 2 00:00:16,820 --> 00:00:27,200 A lot of time has locked up that I was here when the board of our first guy, people would do so. 3 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,060 But that's like that's the way infrastructure works. 4 00:00:38,060 --> 00:00:40,040 So just quickly, 5 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,940 the wordmark, I would think probably everyone here agreed to some really important. 6 00:00:51,950 --> 00:00:54,910 It's just a very simple space, 7 00:00:57,990 --> 00:00:59,570 and it is clearly being defined. 8 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:08,920 You can work across which both controls it, and one of the private public services, 9 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,780 and you can use it in terms of preparing it. 10 00:01:11,060 --> 00:01:16,320 Just been falling behind and trying to keep up with the pair of systems and gotten worse. 11 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,420 So when both the DPS and the one across, 12 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:23,640 came to us a little while ago and said, 13 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,120 we can't keep up and we actually don't really know how do we approach this 14 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:29,520 one. 15 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,660 The stuff that we're in now can be sort of early part of the 9th phase. 16 00:01:37,580 --> 00:01:43,820 We've got a community preservation grant and hired to EI, 17 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:44,600 to 18 00:01:52,600 --> 00:02:01,520 do a feasibility study for us to begin in and really assess what the existing conditions 19 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:07,520 are a whole different components of the form of, and then give us, for you rigorous, 20 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,920 um, ultra is analysis, for how you're in a reclamation, 21 00:02:15,310 --> 00:02:16,670 so that's what is made in 22 00:02:16,670 --> 00:02:24,710 presentation by GDI yesterday. Um, if, um, you could, uh, you could hold your questions until 23 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:30,390 after the presentation about maybe 20 minutes or something like that. And then we can ask, ask, 24 00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:34,790 and asking you to have a question to have a question of discussion. 25 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:36,670 And as we'd like, 26 00:02:38,950 --> 00:02:40,430 we have some physical samples, 27 00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:45,910 which of the materials up here, which Dan will talk about, 28 00:02:46,170 --> 00:02:49,730 and which maybe at the end of the meeting about everyone coming in. 29 00:02:49,850 --> 00:02:51,890 Maybe we could come up afterwards. 30 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,580 Up here tonight, we've got, we've got Dan Robbins 31 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:08,440 And Brendan from GDI, our consultant, can be got back 32 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,380 from the group of one of the president, 33 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,960 right, of the group of one of the press, 34 00:03:13,180 --> 00:03:15,760 and he diffuses the audience to the manager. 35 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,740 And I think with that, I'll turn it over to 36 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:24,160 expand one more thing we do have a microphone set up there. 37 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:27,100 The acoustic in this place are fantastic. 38 00:03:27,820 --> 00:03:39,520 So, when we get to the Q&A for, we can try passing around one of these, but if you wanted to walk up to the stand, I don't know how to do it. 39 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:42,840 Next slide. 40 00:03:45,850 --> 00:03:46,390 Thanks, Gordier. 41 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:48,790 Again, my name is Dan Robinson. 42 00:03:49,070 --> 00:03:50,150 I'm a cheeky eye consultant. 43 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:58,970 We have been involved with the waterfront in the very water here before. 44 00:03:58,970 --> 00:04:06,330 probably going on a decade at this point through the past couple of cases of the bulkhead 45 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:13,190 rehabilitation efforts, and I really excited to be working with the city on the board block 46 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:28,950 that feasibility assessment here. So to start off, I'm just going to go through a little bit of the 47 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:37,750 to a bit of, you know, what our task it was within this feasibility system, go through, you know, 48 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:41,630 our pre-kind of tasks, the value weight of the alternatives. 49 00:04:42,730 --> 00:04:49,310 And then really step in to materials that we're assessing for some of that mobility. 50 00:04:50,170 --> 00:04:58,030 And then we'll round it out with just a little bit more kind of what we're thinking on the next steps. 51 00:04:58,030 --> 00:05:04,590 And then finally, opening up the birds, questions and comments. 52 00:05:05,610 --> 00:05:07,350 So, with that? 53 00:05:09,750 --> 00:05:15,750 The boardwalk was originally constructed back in the 1970s. 54 00:05:16,210 --> 00:05:25,710 And if that boardwalk was initially constructed with Southern Yellow Park in 2001, 55 00:05:25,710 --> 00:05:35,630 A rehabilitation effort was completed for the Board of Law that we used the existing self-structured. 56 00:05:36,650 --> 00:05:41,470 So, basically, anything other than the blocking surface was generally reused. 57 00:05:43,470 --> 00:05:54,910 And, at that time, the city replaced the timber decking with a 3 by 8 eBay decking, which is a tropical part of it. 58 00:05:56,910 --> 00:06:04,670 Underneath the eBay, there are streamers that are pressure treated, I'm, and then there's 59 00:06:04,670 --> 00:06:12,730 concrete side of tubes or foundations that extend down into the soil, and that's what 60 00:06:12,730 --> 00:06:18,370 ultimately supports the board block that we want to come. 61 00:06:18,530 --> 00:06:26,530 This path, summer, and all GDIs, we did a assessment, well we actually took up some of the 62 00:06:27,710 --> 00:06:35,290 to evaluate the boards kind of in their entirety, as well as look at the self-structure, 63 00:06:36,850 --> 00:06:42,630 those stringers, the side of tubes, the concrete side of tubes, and other elements 64 00:06:42,630 --> 00:06:49,870 that are on the board line. Generally, we found the material that is not exposed to the weather. 65 00:06:49,870 --> 00:06:51,890 to be a pretty sound edition. 66 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:57,610 So that was a really positive sign there. 67 00:07:01,980 --> 00:07:04,400 But obviously, I think at least we'll 68 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,120 stick you a bit of a block of the course block. 69 00:07:07,740 --> 00:07:11,080 There's a lot of you theory that get that's out there. 70 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:15,640 And with that, we observe number of rotten boards, 71 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,500 number of cryptic hazards, those are typically 72 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:26,840 because of fasteners that extend down into the stringers that fulfill. 73 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:29,300 They either have... 74 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:42,140 We've got a lot of down there to corrode the actual bathroom itself, or the timbre is just building that, you know, media location. 75 00:07:44,820 --> 00:07:59,200 So those were the main items that we found. There's also, you know, some transitions between the hard scape at the surround, the edges of the boardwalk and the boardwalk itself. 76 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,280 that creates motivation changes that are potential 77 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,260 in the country houses. 78 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,600 And we also found some areas of the deck, 79 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,260 particularly at the southern end of the abandoned, 80 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,200 that were really in pretty good condition 81 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:18,940 that don't require a lot of overall attention. 82 00:08:21,660 --> 00:08:24,740 So, you know, we tried to really kind of 83 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:27,040 holistically look at the boardwalk itself 84 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:35,960 a value-way, you know, what its current condition was, and the areas that could potentially 85 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:42,100 be reused in areas that would be using future for their work. 86 00:08:45,370 --> 00:08:51,330 Our testing of the feasibility study really included the three alternative communications. 87 00:08:51,770 --> 00:08:55,650 The first thing that we've done to anything, other than what's being current. 88 00:08:57,410 --> 00:09:03,780 This would basically be, you know, periodic patching. 89 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,220 The second alternative being, you know, improved maintenance. 90 00:09:09,300 --> 00:09:18,320 So, 200 timber out there, rebassing, being much more proactive in the approach. 91 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:25,760 And then the final alternative being to partially move and start the board block at the existing one. 92 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:35,270 And each of those have different costs associated with them, as well as their overall service 93 00:09:35,270 --> 00:09:38,910 like and required maintenance. 94 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:52,740 One of the no-l action hatching really would just be going out there as currently exists 95 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,840 periodically patching. 96 00:09:55,620 --> 00:10:02,800 Some of that is replacing timber for themselves, or using, you'll see some areas out there 97 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:10,060 I have some flexible payment, let's kind of remember us payment or other alternatives. 98 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:19,040 This really has long-term liability risk for the users out there. 99 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:27,100 We're going to continue to have safety, trucking hazards that are consistent with popping up. 100 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,540 But it is an option, and it's the lowest cost option that is out there. 101 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Alternative two is improving that angle. 102 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,500 So this would be going out there, 103 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:47,660 selectively replacing boards that have brought it. 104 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Get those stringers that are needing for parent. 105 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:55,140 Really kind of working to replace those stringers. 106 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,580 And then securing the fasteners. 107 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,480 and providing an annual kind of like, faster in this, 108 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,560 I don't know if I'm going to be able to secure the voice down, 109 00:11:05,980 --> 00:11:07,380 eliminate some of those traffic hazards. 110 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:11,040 This approves the safety, 111 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:16,880 but it also requires the additional maintenance on an annual and not going basis. 112 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,260 So, you know, we say annual, 113 00:11:20,580 --> 00:11:25,880 that I think multiple times a year that the city or whatever process is out there, 114 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,400 having to, you know, proactively make her fair. 115 00:11:30,860 --> 00:11:32,820 So, you know, it increases a lot in the end 116 00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:35,380 and preferable on that purpose. 117 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:40,080 I will say that, you know, as part of this feasibility study, 118 00:11:41,180 --> 00:11:44,380 a lot of French Boston City have got out there 119 00:11:44,380 --> 00:11:48,760 and done a proactive maintenance repair. 120 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,820 Recently, it was all securing, I believe, 121 00:11:51,820 --> 00:12:00,920 to secure the installed up 200 fasteners in the board block replaced and repaired some of the 122 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,900 boards that are out there. And then actually with the next couple of weeks, there will be some 123 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:07,880 additional to repair the kit itself. 124 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:14,580 So, you know, we're as part of this effort have identified 125 00:12:17,980 --> 00:12:20,240 I'm going to find 126 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,760 all the kind of alternative that we looked at is a partial reconstruction of the protocol. 127 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,580 This really was at our holistic approach. 128 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:42,100 What can be used out there? 129 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:44,800 Some of the timber is in really good condition. 130 00:12:45,860 --> 00:12:48,120 Some of it is deteriorated. 131 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:58,840 So we're able to reuse that timber that provides some cost savings as well as increase sustainability. 132 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:11,100 So within this image here, the two areas that are in green were found to be a really pretty good condition that we have minor repairs that we did. 133 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:18,890 But we don't, you know, which is a big kind of new holistic removal over here at the top of it. 134 00:13:18,890 --> 00:13:28,030 The areas that are in the yellow and red are areas that have quite a bit more widespread 135 00:13:28,030 --> 00:13:34,710 of the duration of the timbers and fasteners, so we look to remove all of these timbers 136 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:42,010 within the Zarya, and then selectively repartments to the timbers possible. 137 00:13:43,610 --> 00:13:51,930 And now our goal there is to really have about 130 that we've really been able to reuse 138 00:13:51,930 --> 00:13:55,530 places in that area that is telling me a little. 139 00:13:57,610 --> 00:14:02,950 So then you have wanted to do a scenario of this existing key thing. 140 00:14:04,530 --> 00:14:11,370 And then two areas that are red would be replaced with the, 141 00:14:18,420 --> 00:14:22,620 we also looked at the elevations of the boardwalk as part of this. 142 00:14:24,780 --> 00:14:31,140 And we do know that the boardwalk during the storm events may end in the time of time. 143 00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:38,780 However, for the next 25-plus years, we don't anticipate the boardwalk will overcome it. 144 00:14:39,820 --> 00:14:47,060 normal frequency. And so, you know, as part of the recommendations here, it's keep it 145 00:14:47,060 --> 00:14:52,220 existing in the location of the four blockheads that it's been. 146 00:14:57,300 --> 00:14:59,860 So what value we did... 147 00:15:00,530 --> 00:15:21,310 Distance, abstructure, and some of our recommendations are to potentially look, this would be a valuable further during the design phase, but reducing the span, the spans between the stringers are really pretty wide. They're about five to look at the typical spacing. 148 00:15:22,050 --> 00:15:28,270 And that works for the relatively thick activity we've got out there and the loads that we've got. 149 00:15:31,170 --> 00:15:39,490 But it's an unconventional framing for what is often used for different instructions. 150 00:15:40,610 --> 00:15:44,010 So, you know, we looked at, you know, the potential that reducing those spans. 151 00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:50,550 And this would add some additional construction time to the project on site. 152 00:15:51,250 --> 00:16:13,950 But with reduce the material cost of that deck, for instance, we could look at instead of having a free-aged deck deck, that deck might be two or even like one and quarter inches, which is a typical, you know, thickness that you would see on most decks that you're familiar with. 153 00:16:13,950 --> 00:16:21,050 So there's some potential cost savings there and really kind of evaluating what those of them. 154 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:27,590 We also look at what the use is about the structure in this evaluation. 155 00:16:29,790 --> 00:16:33,510 So the Board of Art was not used for vehicles. 156 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:39,150 We've got a couple of small maintenance vehicles that go out there and it's mostly pedestrian. 157 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:58,460 Next, we evaluated different material choices with a board block. Currently out there is 158 00:16:58,460 --> 00:17:00,460 a heap there, which is a tropical argument, 159 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,620 before that the original construction was a southern 160 00:17:06,620 --> 00:17:13,560 yellow line that was partially treated. And both of those have lasted about 25 years. 161 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,840 We were hoping to be able to get a little bit of a longer service life 162 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,380 about the tropical parkway initially, 163 00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:28,520 and, you know, there is still some nice 164 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,560 longevity, but it is starting to require a new additional. 165 00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:38,450 So, the different materials that we looked at are tropical parkways, 166 00:17:41,050 --> 00:17:41,570 softwoods, 167 00:17:41,570 --> 00:17:49,850 this would be the Southern Yellow Pine composite decking, pre-cast concrete, and they have some 168 00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:54,770 place concrete where you actually breathe the location of the place of the concrete. 169 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:03,040 So we looked at all of those really not even in the work of conversations with the city and different 170 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:10,450 stakeholders have identified that the concrete options are really open to the city's, you know, 171 00:18:13,900 --> 00:18:17,480 That's that X can really need more A and A forward walk. 172 00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:26,920 So, from there, you know, with the value of them, and really can move down to the 173 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,040 particular top of the choice. 174 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:35,260 The drop-up of the hardware was this would be an E-bay. 175 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:43,240 This is actually an E-bay that is out there as an option. 176 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:50,550 Purple Heart, the end is a purple heart, the connection, 177 00:18:53,050 --> 00:18:55,470 part of the real child, over by 178 00:18:55,470 --> 00:19:01,810 Patron Park, is using the purple heart currently, so it's another option that we've got in the city. 179 00:19:03,550 --> 00:19:11,110 Here, these are both nice options in that they have long surface light, they don't use any chemical treatments, 180 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:16,430 But there are some challenges with them as well, they're expensive. 181 00:19:17,870 --> 00:19:21,150 They have sustainability concerns, 182 00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:26,030 because most of the tropical earthquakes are coming from either Brazil 183 00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:27,190 or Piana, 184 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,080 or, you know, imports that, you know, 185 00:19:33,220 --> 00:19:36,460 if we've got any, we've run short from the material, 186 00:19:36,460 --> 00:19:42,840 that you can have high feedbacks, there can be a quality control issues with getting some 187 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:50,760 of the material here as well, and you know, so these will have to be back to the, to the 188 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,480 rural instruction. 189 00:19:57,130 --> 00:20:02,730 And the estimated cost for the tropical hardwoods would generally be about 190 00:20:02,730 --> 00:20:07,470 0.7, 0.8 million dollars. 191 00:20:08,710 --> 00:20:10,890 To replace the areas that are in the right 192 00:20:14,850 --> 00:20:15,730 order, 193 00:20:16,270 --> 00:20:17,870 it will then construction. 194 00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:21,170 So that includes the overwhelming structure. 195 00:20:26,850 --> 00:20:28,910 We are missing what we've had. 196 00:20:29,670 --> 00:20:33,450 They'll go into that area with the yellow, and then the areas that have been 197 00:20:33,450 --> 00:20:34,410 in the right that have been used to 198 00:20:40,970 --> 00:20:41,190 it. 199 00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:44,530 We also looked at stockwoods. 200 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:47,030 These are less expensive. 201 00:20:47,030 --> 00:20:56,530 So there's a lower up run cost of them, but it's also important to know that the up run 202 00:20:56,530 --> 00:21:01,230 cost of materials is only a portion of that cost, because there's also a cost for the labor 203 00:21:01,230 --> 00:21:06,710 and the equipment that, you know, really do pack equipment to the overall cost of the 204 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:10,690 as much differential as you think, I think it could be curious. 205 00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:16,510 The softwaids would have a shorter surface life, 206 00:21:17,030 --> 00:21:20,930 generally on the order of about 15 to 20 years. 207 00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:26,430 Perhaps it's the hardware that's going to be on the 25 to 15. 208 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:34,370 So the other disadvantage that they're not chemical treatments, 209 00:21:34,990 --> 00:21:39,540 typically they're going to be a pressure treated in these areas. 210 00:21:39,540 --> 00:21:47,500 I'm really, you know, they do weather pretty quickly, so as you can see here, in the 211 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:56,100 two photos, the lower photo is the picture of the freshness, all of that, the southern 212 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:59,020 photo of the freshness, the southern yellow, the freshness, the southern yellow, and the 213 00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:06,940 upper picture is with the same area here, but this was installed about 10 years ago, 214 00:22:09,940 --> 00:22:10,080 it's 215 00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:17,670 material class or in the overall instruction as many instructions as the order of the 216 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:21,970 seven, the other half. And then 217 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:29,070 the other option that we've blessed you at Dan 218 00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:29,970 when you work for a mention. 219 00:22:30,530 --> 00:22:40,970 I know we have talked just the kind of a life cycle of that time that the working year should be spoken for splintering and working and kind of things like that. 220 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:41,710 It did. 221 00:22:42,250 --> 00:22:49,290 Yeah. So within with the, with the softwoods, if they do have increased maintenance, there's, they tend to unravel, 222 00:22:52,830 --> 00:23:02,610 open up within their, their grain with it more, so there's more opportunity for splintering and block. 223 00:23:04,510 --> 00:23:09,730 within the versus, you know, the tropical hardwoods 224 00:23:09,730 --> 00:23:11,970 or hardwoods are going to have a much denser green. 225 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,540 And then finally, you know, we looked at the composites. 226 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,040 That composite has come way to ways even over the last 10 years 227 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,240 from what it was. 228 00:23:28,540 --> 00:23:32,820 And, you know, so they've really started kind of coming 229 00:23:32,820 --> 00:23:37,280 the market, like, well, when we started to compare them, 230 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,340 you're going to have a long service life. 231 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:45,180 Again, looking at 30 to 50 years, often, 232 00:23:45,340 --> 00:23:46,840 you know that even if you're in a commercial, 233 00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:50,320 or it's used on these materials that are going to be 234 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,140 in that 30 years time range, they don't have splinters 235 00:23:56,140 --> 00:23:58,440 of rock associated with them. 236 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,820 Their maintenance is really low. 237 00:24:02,820 --> 00:24:14,620 There are some light up to, you know, we would have to make sure we would specify the materials that are selected by the rest. 238 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:27,120 I'm aware of being a UV protection with them and traction, so make sure that they are not slippery material. 239 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,000 And so we've got some different materials out here that are kind of 240 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,060 to take a look at afterwards. 241 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:41,200 One of them that we've got out here introduces some, it's called 242 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:49,720 a mineral composite, and mineral composites actually have some 243 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,860 aggregate that's in mineral, it's actually mixed into them. 244 00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:59,180 So, you know, there's quite a bit of a number there to prevent that. 245 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:05,540 But I think it's also worth noting that, you know, there's a very, very good use of that. 246 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:13,800 And that even with the timber, if you go out there, and then cool, cool with your day, 247 00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:18,040 you know, morning, you'll get a little bit of processing timber, and there's well, 248 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:26,040 I think that's very suburb or, you know, what they, you know, so it's not that, you know, 249 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,680 the timber person could possibly, you know, greatly different there. 250 00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:39,640 We've also heard some, you know, considerations and had some considerations on the thermal, 251 00:25:43,140 --> 00:25:49,320 basically attraction of the composites, some of them will get, you know, relatively warm. 252 00:25:50,020 --> 00:25:58,400 The colors that we would be looking for are really trying to make, aesthetically, you know, 253 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:06,260 a piece of the look between the existing evade decking and the rubricillic composite composite 254 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:14,140 there. So it's going to be like gray in color, which is not going to attract as much. It's 255 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:22,340 going to, that's much solar. He came, that is, you know, a dark object or something, that nature. 256 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:33,720 And there's also, they're working, the compositing factors have really been working to keep those temperatures down. 257 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,300 So there have been some different studies that, you know, 258 00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:44,320 evaluated in Florida, particularly the heat gain 259 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,160 of the positive persons, some of the different timbres. 260 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,380 And they're great to reduce that over the past few years. 261 00:26:56,430 --> 00:26:59,990 And I think it's also worth noting that there's a good 262 00:26:59,990 --> 00:27:02,270 global track record using positive. 263 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:12,710 Right within the Central Larva, the floating dots that are adjacent to this board block, 264 00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:14,710 all of the means that can cause a death rate. 265 00:27:15,130 --> 00:27:15,930 That's been out there. 266 00:27:16,570 --> 00:27:17,290 40,000 people out there. 267 00:27:18,810 --> 00:27:20,270 Yeah, almost 20 years. 268 00:27:20,650 --> 00:27:22,290 That was in the process of been out there. 269 00:27:22,670 --> 00:27:25,770 And really, I didn't know I'm going to get some of that. 270 00:27:25,930 --> 00:27:27,310 We talked about the hardware master. 271 00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:34,650 you know, they haven't had major issues over the slippery as well. 272 00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:43,750 And then, additionally, if you go over to the wildlife refuge, if then it's like saying 273 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:45,890 the plush of the timber there really causes this well. 274 00:27:47,230 --> 00:27:52,370 So, you know, it is something that we're seeing quite a bit, some of those conversations 275 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:58,290 they've talked quite a bit, you know, reducing the density they have overall. 276 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:08,840 Yes, we need construction costs, really kind of falls in the middle between the 7th or 5th. 277 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:11,230 The hardware is available. 278 00:28:16,770 --> 00:28:23,250 So looking at this, you know, we really kind of are trying to also keep in mind a lot of sustainability considerations. 279 00:28:24,850 --> 00:28:30,310 So we're looking at, you know, we're recycled content and being able to reuse work again. 280 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:39,850 within the causes, you know, having low maintenance and using recycled materials, the 281 00:28:39,850 --> 00:28:44,750 domestic softwoods are going to have low transport and that's if they're going to have 282 00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:55,610 lower carbon imprints. The concrete as well as the hardwoods are really going to have high 283 00:28:55,610 --> 00:29:00,090 a lot in Europe because of the travel is 284 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:03,790 a problem with this. 285 00:29:04,690 --> 00:29:13,660 So, you know, trying to provide resilience goals, and to achieve that it's a state-of-a-live 286 00:29:13,660 --> 00:29:17,220 project here at the same time, it's been like the other considerations. 287 00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:25,040 Looking at this, I'm just a construct of the lakes standpoint, I think it's important to 288 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:31,480 know that, you know, this will be a phase of project, we wouldn't be looking to go in 289 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:38,000 take out the entire board block a little less, because we understand and you know this is 290 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,840 important aspect to the city, 291 00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:47,060 the visitors, the residents, and all being able to access 292 00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:53,180 the waterfront. So we'd like to do it, you know, as much as we can during the off season, 293 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:59,180 where it's going to be a little bit less stuff, but traffic, as well as... 294 00:30:00,750 --> 00:30:17,810 Facing it into at least three cases here, all while having the e-part act this way that runs kind of directly behind this vote law available. 295 00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:24,270 So, you know, what we should have not been here, why are you trying to be here with a certain 296 00:30:24,270 --> 00:30:28,090 not to be interactive, do you have any questions to do? 297 00:30:28,570 --> 00:30:37,870 And that's the design of the graphic, we really want to do the development of what we've done, 298 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:43,370 what we've done, what we've done, what we've done, what we've done, what we've done, what we've done, 299 00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:55,010 What I'm praying for is a different way of speaking down and struggling. 300 00:30:56,250 --> 00:31:04,370 And then, ultimately, you know, how an equipment to deal with. 301 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:18,230 So overall, recommendation that really to, you know, 302 00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:25,190 some improved maintenance in the short-term, and then ultimately, 303 00:31:25,410 --> 00:31:30,830 advanced design, the permitting is required for a part of the construction. 304 00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:36,670 And then, ultimately, in the work with the city, one of the trucks, 305 00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:43,670 I would, well as, you know, hearing, like, for developing and selecting, you know, the 306 00:31:43,670 --> 00:31:44,790 third open business. 307 00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:46,310 Can we do better? 308 00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:48,810 Really kind of awesome. 309 00:31:49,510 --> 00:31:51,870 And then there's a really interesting situation. 310 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,420 With that, appreciate the time. 311 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,040 And we'll, in fact, over your during the, uh, 312 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,000 questions, I'll just comment. 313 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,700 Thanks everyone. 314 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Not too many of us here, so maybe you could just speak loudly or walk over the microphone 315 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,160 or ask me to give you this microphone, but that's a seven discussion that would be lovely here, 316 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:32,550 but anyone thinks of any of this or which is a question to be able to answer that. 317 00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:40,790 Hi, I'd like to present my public comment with that I don't really care about money or time. 318 00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:45,070 The boardwalks should really be made out of granite and break. 319 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:48,170 And then break, okay. 320 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:51,110 I don't know what you think about construction or anything. 321 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:57,470 But granite and break, just like the rest of the years, or down town, get them back 322 00:32:57,470 --> 00:32:58,550 and down town. 323 00:32:58,790 --> 00:32:59,190 All right. 324 00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:02,930 We're recording everyone's comment, so we appreciate that. 325 00:33:03,010 --> 00:33:07,870 I would say that, I think I've heard from most people that there's a final sport, 326 00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:17,510 So anticipate that's the direction we will together, but I appreciate your comment. 327 00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:22,450 I might have noticed this earlier presentation, but it was a client report. 328 00:33:22,910 --> 00:33:27,510 The new surface on top of the color boards on the board. 329 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:29,250 Why not? 330 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:46,900 The plan would be to remove existing timber that's there, we're used where we can, and then the area that we can not be used to have that removed in any place. 331 00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:49,240 What's the reason you're here? 332 00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:59,800 Right now, the primary reason for that is that you can be able to get a level of surface and to be able to anchor them appropriately. 333 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:06,360 We've got a lot of faster issues that are out there right now, and so there's a place 334 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,620 that we're going to talk about this in a couple of years off of this country. 335 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:18,500 We have a real challenge of universal access, and a leading city of federal codes for 336 00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:24,080 universal access, and any deaf accessibility, if you're having to be different above all 337 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,640 services and having to explain different boards and so forth. 338 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:36,020 So getting rid of the old material, and then, and then putting you as is a much, much more efficient approach. 339 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,080 Possibly, but I'm sorry. 340 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,680 I'm sorry. 341 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,560 What else? 342 00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:50,120 Probably there's, you would say, some later by leaving something down, you'd have a much, much more work to try to, to, to, to fasten it all together. 343 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,480 And they can, uh, if you compliant. 344 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,020 Yeah. 345 00:34:56,020 --> 00:35:03,090 I get a sense that the faster the plate won a little bit more than that. 346 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:09,230 I'm wondering if something happens if you're doing something with those fasteners. 347 00:35:10,460 --> 00:35:12,340 I hope if it doesn't happen. 348 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:16,860 The thing that comes to mind is that we've got plenty of both carrots. 349 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:25,400 And my clothes up the dog, the river, and he could have just asked her and went there, 350 00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:33,200 over the years, the work, the vet, for a similar scenario that we have there. 351 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:38,000 I don't know, they're kind of, he could have his lower cost and fit that. 352 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:47,100 It might be some sort of sort of, the others, the federal government, has a part of 353 00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:47,840 Plum Island. 354 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,940 And they've got some walkways there on the beach. 355 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,730 And they somehow found a way to personalize it, they haven't got a way to personalize 356 00:36:02,730 --> 00:36:09,990 the board, sure that might have felt in costs, and then I have that you've never walked 357 00:36:10,610 --> 00:36:15,970 those at the beach that you've kind of best made, and see how they've gotten. 358 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:22,890 They might also shed some money on how we might go about pulling this 359 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:25,940 and keep you in the 360 00:36:25,940 --> 00:36:26,200 place. 361 00:36:27,860 --> 00:36:42,400 Yeah, a couple of we have talked with Matt Bellman, the recommend to their board box and their use of the composite material over the wall, they are happy with using the composites. 362 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,380 There's always some cons, there's both a cons, every material, but they can like it. 363 00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:53,740 In terms of fasteners, I think that wasn't an interesting part of this study where 364 00:36:53,740 --> 00:37:00,500 there was talking a little bit about that previously, but it turns out there are many 365 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:07,000 different types of fasteners in different types of steel and stainless steel to coated 366 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:14,860 to two other types of steel and we think that essentially, especially with some of the 367 00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:20,040 There is none of the past quarter century, but the best 368 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,680 basements weren't used, and it turns out that the industry is 369 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,320 not about that pressure treated wood, which is what the 370 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,740 stringers are made of. 371 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:45,640 The chemicals in that actually will deteriorate certain types of steel. So, that screws go in that there's no red flat, which is why the words, that started coming up. I have one of those in my office that didn't want to last. I'll take a look. 372 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:57,080 So, when we had our contract around there, he was putting in the longer fasteners, some of the longest like 70 or 80 inches, but longer fasteners. 373 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,600 and so we're certainly going to be looking at stainless or some other top-quality 374 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,800 faster to make sure we get it as one of the things we want to see. 375 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:18,100 I would add on to that the original fasteners out there were actually like a six-inch nail, right about that. 376 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:18,600 Thank you. 377 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,160 Ben. 378 00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:30,260 Still a common, you know, if you think a lot about the effect, so if we're choosing a different material 379 00:38:30,260 --> 00:38:38,200 for example, how do that, how do we accept that and look at the oil in terms of design 380 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,860 with sections being different materials? 381 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:46,200 The second question is, you made a brief mention on the stringer and the distance between them. 382 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:53,740 If the plan is to only intentionally shorten the distance between them on sections that are completely removed 383 00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:57,540 or maybe on the yellow section, where we would be rebuilding the parts, 384 00:38:57,540 --> 00:39:02,780 And then it's not touching the green section and stuff maybe within the faith that it is in the interplanet. 385 00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:08,780 So just try to understand what the after this is done made in the Senate expectation. 386 00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:12,980 Yeah, the aesthetics is clearly an important consideration. 387 00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:22,240 I think we're getting more and more of a right and strong monster with lots of different materials out there. 388 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:22,480 Yeah, 389 00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:25,600 you know, the general requirements 390 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,060 is to have a look as you have one of those possible. 391 00:39:29,660 --> 00:39:32,240 There are, to have a completely new form 392 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:33,860 you'd have to rip out the entire form 393 00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:38,640 to open a place that never lasts 100,000 dollars more. 394 00:39:39,260 --> 00:39:43,960 And at this point, we don't feel like that's a worthwhile approach. 395 00:39:44,940 --> 00:39:48,640 So we also don't want to have sort of a checkerboard look. 396 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,180 So we're dead, and I don't know if you 397 00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:58,180 to bring that intro back up, but the recommendation coming from GDI is that there's essentially 398 00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:03,960 going to be a middle section of the boardwalk, which is the green and the yellow, which 399 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:11,680 is all going to be a pair, the existing gray material. And then the green would be staying in place 400 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:18,840 as it is, and the yellow would be boards harvested from elsewhere, so you have a continuous line 401 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,120 And then on the other end, you have this immaterial. 402 00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:25,900 And so there's sort of one transition point 403 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:27,660 between those materials. 404 00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:31,720 And we would be choosing a color, as I think was mentioned, 405 00:40:32,460 --> 00:40:34,780 is not going to be traumatic or different. 406 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:37,040 You know, it's going to be in the grayed tombs. 407 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,820 And so I don't think that this could be a significant aesthetic 408 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:43,100 in that one of those lines. 409 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,740 In terms of the screeners question, 410 00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:52,300 you are asking about, certainly if we go with the composites, we're going to need to add more support and more 411 00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:52,740 spirits. 412 00:40:53,500 --> 00:41:01,720 In those, essentially those random stretches there, but we won't need to do that in the rest of the area. 413 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,560 And the streamers, as Dan, they have noted, the streamers are doing pretty well. 414 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:14,260 They're old, they're original material, but they've been protected from the weather and so forth. 415 00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:21,640 And they're in good shape. Part of this project, there's going to be some self-work done on them, 416 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,560 building animals, 417 00:41:24,860 --> 00:41:28,920 and address shins and so forth. But the most part of that's in good shape, 418 00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:45,970 you know, we don't need to address that in that section. And so, it's entire board box, we don't 419 00:41:58,100 --> 00:41:58,600 would. 420 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:07,900 The industry says that it can last from 25 to 50 or more years. So we're seeing 421 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:15,740 the range in our own materials here. We've had enough material that who knows some of the materials 422 00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:25,200 we would see maybe from one or sort of different paths from others. So we've seen half or 60% of 423 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,880 board of water, the end to 25% time period, but the material that's first 424 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,980 is down at the base of the pavement, so that the pavement is really looking pretty 425 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:40,000 good, and it's just going to last us quite a while longer. And then the sea level 426 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,660 has been taking it approximately 25 years, and then we'll go up to you raising everything 427 00:42:44,660 --> 00:42:45,320 up. 428 00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:54,600 We have to be fit on 429 00:43:08,490 --> 00:43:08,730 it. 430 00:43:08,730 --> 00:43:10,330 I've heard some people suggest that. 431 00:43:11,830 --> 00:43:14,090 And we came from one that's a lot at the end. 432 00:43:14,090 --> 00:43:16,590 disciplinary if it's some other type of work. 433 00:43:17,890 --> 00:43:19,270 So don't give up on it, 434 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,280 baby. 435 00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:35,720 You will get that weird hole in 436 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,580 the, uh, 437 00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,560 high hole, probably, probably that hole five years. 438 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,020 And for, uh, little boxes, that that's the, 439 00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:57,500 you know, a lot of them walking on that, uh. 440 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,760 Thanks for your, but yeah, just in purple part. 441 00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:06,700 I would mention, we have purple part. 442 00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:10,400 We're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're. 443 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,920 part of the rail trail, that was about 15 years old at this point. It was actually a pretty good 444 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,040 condition. There's a couple of little spots that are starting to deteriorate. And then on 445 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:31,000 the rail trail south, bridges, and then small or walk over in the waterfront, it is per park. So those 446 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:38,100 are good more walks, but again, you really have to oversee the supplier and you can take many 447 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:44,520 to get these materials. It is a tropical hardwood, which means going into the tropical 448 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:53,140 forest. So, and it's the most expensive option. So again, we know decisions have been made 449 00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:58,160 at this point, but it's trying to explain some of the thinking today as we, as we try to 450 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,980 You need to do this to prepare for this to do. 451 00:45:09,550 --> 00:45:20,810 There could be terrorist issues, which would potentially increase the cost, but that's been a moving target. 452 00:45:21,110 --> 00:45:32,210 And so we had a really big incorporated that into our opinion. Other than, it's a drop of a hardware and it's the most expensive option, and it would push it a little more expensive. 453 00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:49,230 So I'm just very excited to be able to, like, get some work conditions and send more 454 00:45:49,230 --> 00:45:49,750 and serve. 455 00:45:50,050 --> 00:45:51,650 How would you go about sequencing it? 456 00:45:51,650 --> 00:45:55,650 And then the second part of that question is, and it's shown through some corrective 457 00:45:55,650 --> 00:45:59,950 key to the service on the boardwalk, and how are you thinking about applications that are required 458 00:45:59,950 --> 00:46:05,830 to accept the ability to change it, or have you, or have you, or have you, or have you, as part of this thing? 459 00:46:08,170 --> 00:46:16,830 So I'll start on the phase and you know it was part of the phase and goes we would start initially with, you know, the area that isn't right. 460 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,180 So that, you know, 461 00:46:38,450 --> 00:46:40,630 and then the area that's yellow and 462 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,520 the phase that you're taking folks out. 463 00:46:55,070 --> 00:46:58,930 You know, like, I know we mentioned that they're like 20 years or so. 464 00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:00,950 Did we learn anything from the time you're on the boat? 465 00:47:01,150 --> 00:47:01,490 You did. 466 00:47:01,570 --> 00:47:06,710 Then the life work, there's an institution in the area that they're trying now, but how do we treat it? 467 00:47:10,490 --> 00:47:16,730 Um, as part of this, standing the life goes, you know, there's not a whole lot we can really do, you know, 468 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:22,590 these, you get it out there, it's got, you know, really, that's where it was saying. 469 00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:29,650 a significant, like, to it and still, and so, you know, the main thing is for, like, 470 00:47:29,830 --> 00:47:32,710 going to be a fastener for the placement. 471 00:47:39,850 --> 00:47:42,050 There's not treatments or something like that. 472 00:47:42,050 --> 00:47:45,730 There won't necessarily, you just, essentially, just leave it alone. 473 00:47:46,910 --> 00:47:48,570 You'd also ask about accessibility. 474 00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:57,530 She's referring to, I think, the little electric variant that's blind, 475 00:47:57,530 --> 00:48:04,710 people heard about that, but they're essentially a kind of project in the works for building a little electric. 476 00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:13,390 A solar electric period would go back and forth between periods, very integral, hopefully over in South Korea. 477 00:48:14,210 --> 00:48:16,970 A lot has to come together to make that happen. 478 00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:21,710 The Boardwalk itself is not any ignorance to that project. 479 00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:27,430 We're trying to make the Boardwalk as accessible and universally accessible as possible. 480 00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:40,190 For any number of reasons, the accessibility issue that you're referencing is the gangways that go down from the boardwalk to the flows. 481 00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:45,510 And that's a whole separate question from the three we have at the boardwalk. 482 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:04,780 And yet all the electrical, all the electrical research was recently upgraded, as part of the bulk in the part project. 483 00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:08,800 And so all those time, it's one underneath the decking. 484 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,100 And so none of that would be an issue. 485 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,220 In terms of we'll have to work with Eva and Jeff Nath's in the electrician. 486 00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:22,020 About whether there's increased power needs or something like that. 487 00:49:22,020 --> 00:49:26,640 But we hosted some of the power along there to get in bigger boats, 488 00:49:26,820 --> 00:49:28,620 so I don't want to mistake it to be significant. 489 00:49:40,610 --> 00:49:41,730 Think about some 490 00:49:46,050 --> 00:49:47,170 numbers around. 491 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:49,850 I can see the S-rated cost for material, 492 00:49:50,350 --> 00:49:56,550 but if you could create a table for us that divided that cost out by the S-rated log 70, 493 00:49:56,710 --> 00:50:00,090 if you use those materials to close the expected end of the business, 494 00:50:00,550 --> 00:50:05,450 then you could figure out a total of an end with cost for how low we had. 495 00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:14,510 And one of those I've got is a video based line for comparing these options with some of your numbers from that. 496 00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:17,690 So if that's something you can make, I would enjoy it very much. 497 00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:26,730 I also met one other fellow question about the actual life span of the defense and the balance of some other information that maybe there's a big difference. 498 00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:33,070 But I've heard 25 to 50 years, but it seems like we've got 25. 499 00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:38,150 So is it really reasonable to expect any more than 25 others? 500 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,060 Yeah, it's a good question. 501 00:50:42,780 --> 00:50:44,800 There is a very significant difference. 502 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:53,720 If we go down and look closely at the stretching green, the southern part of the existing 503 00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:59,540 boardwalk, which is the connection point for the new Cherokee's pathway. All those 504 00:50:59,540 --> 00:51:06,620 boards are not playing, they're not coming, they're not riding, those boards are 505 00:51:06,620 --> 00:51:11,120 a good shape. Now again, there's a stretch of them, perhaps they came from one specific 506 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,320 patch. It's a little easier, like, why is this stretch good in another stretch is bad? 507 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:33,320 But it is clear that for whatever reason there is a broad range here in terms of how this material functions and we have some other that's at the end of its service life and some that's in the middle of its service life. 508 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:42,560 We have seen, if they, or I'd say we, we is very broad, the world has seen, if they 509 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,360 last many decades in optimal conditions. 510 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:54,580 So, GI, you know, the recommendations we're getting is that we're releasing you, sure, 511 00:51:54,860 --> 00:51:59,720 that we keep all out of that material we are going to get a lot more inside of it. 512 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:09,500 and I tend to think that ripping on all that pretty good material and replacing it would be a pretty big waste. 513 00:52:09,820 --> 00:52:10,580 Oh, yeah, 514 00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:23,480 it does. 515 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:40,900 50 scenes be pushed on it. So Dan is saying, actually, like, 15 or 20 years, more years is a better expectation. 516 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:46,920 And then we might be getting into the border by border replacement situation that we've been in more recent. 517 00:53:01,060 --> 00:53:07,400 Yeah, so as far as the overall construction goes, if I believe, you know, by the time you 518 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,820 base it out in those phases, you know, each of those phases is probably going to take 519 00:53:12,820 --> 00:53:17,840 in the rain that would say, read five months, there in the creation of the phases. 520 00:53:18,020 --> 00:53:19,160 So it's about it here, 521 00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:34,730 because you're going to have to take out those boards to the 522 00:53:41,290 --> 00:53:41,730 You know, 523 00:53:46,830 --> 00:53:49,170 that's a problem for us to be in this sort of problem. 524 00:53:49,630 --> 00:53:49,910 Yeah. 525 00:53:50,170 --> 00:53:51,310 I don't want to do that. 526 00:53:51,550 --> 00:53:51,970 No. 527 00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:53,110 I don't know. 528 00:53:53,110 --> 00:53:55,230 They'll work basically through through. 529 00:53:59,780 --> 00:54:01,140 And then we've done a long-term. 530 00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:05,540 We do, you know, compare to 25 years ago when we're taking a whole boardwalk 531 00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:06,780 and replacing it. 532 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,260 We do now have to share these gap wave, which runs along there. 533 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,200 And you will allow even if we have a section of the boardwalk, 534 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:15,860 which is closed. 535 00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:18,260 People will still be able to get back and forth, 536 00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:19,360 which I think is a huge. 537 00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:22,740 positive for sort of dealing with others, 538 00:54:39,210 --> 00:54:41,630 more than that, there were discussions that 539 00:54:41,630 --> 00:54:47,570 didn't all about various options. Everything from composite to wood, something like metal 540 00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:53,310 that they were falling in traction. And then we got the wood we got. And every problem was 541 00:54:53,310 --> 00:55:00,070 looked before the last one we got in the week, 90 to 80,000 person out. I think that 542 00:55:00,070 --> 00:55:04,110 I think it's a lot more fear, we're going to have that now. 543 00:55:04,450 --> 00:55:07,090 I think it's really important for us to step into the media, 544 00:55:07,390 --> 00:55:10,750 with that, but that being said, the e-pay, 545 00:55:11,170 --> 00:55:12,610 sounds like pretty good deal. 546 00:55:13,170 --> 00:55:14,050 I think it's good. 547 00:55:14,530 --> 00:55:17,410 But I was strongly suggesting you probably know this, 548 00:55:18,270 --> 00:55:19,950 to get a rather poor block, not just here, 549 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:22,810 but to me, to which I spend a lot of time 550 00:55:22,810 --> 00:55:24,310 and I think it's really great. 551 00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:27,410 And those sounds have a good place 552 00:55:27,410 --> 00:55:30,350 and the names of this question for that. 553 00:55:30,610 --> 00:55:32,890 They usually would have some of you come up 554 00:55:32,890 --> 00:55:35,190 but either way they have a plan. 555 00:55:35,950 --> 00:55:37,510 Like certain of some of the parts of it, 556 00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:39,290 but some of them cost the sign. 557 00:55:39,650 --> 00:55:42,010 This is like the group were telling me that in the group, 558 00:55:42,670 --> 00:55:45,290 there's 75 or 70 in the place in the music. 559 00:55:45,530 --> 00:55:46,490 But they do that. 560 00:55:46,590 --> 00:55:49,110 I'll get back to you in 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 561 00:55:49,170 --> 00:55:53,350 I think money aside, you can consider everything all the way. 562 00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:55,350 Especially because this is something that comes 563 00:55:55,350 --> 00:56:01,190 on the tax cap, because you're really going to keep going on about that a month. 564 00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:06,650 One is a grant, ideally a state grant, although that's assertive of the physical situation. 565 00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:12,170 The only thing that we have for over the years, in my 20th century, has been based on a requirement 566 00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:12,970 to be products. 567 00:56:13,230 --> 00:56:18,510 Everything from rewiring, this is going to have to be fired from the need to put in our official 568 00:56:18,510 --> 00:56:21,410 turf at the state of the high school. 569 00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:30,670 So, it's not to say that if we actually look forward, if we may want to spend $1,000 to put it in a full new boardwalk, 570 00:56:32,210 --> 00:56:37,030 otherwise, we have to admit it, not to say, in twenty-five minutes, we regret. 571 00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:42,010 But he makes sure we need to eat over the years because he does a new business interest 572 00:56:42,010 --> 00:56:45,470 because the argument is talking about where these boards look great. 573 00:56:46,050 --> 00:56:49,130 These boards will open your place for 25 years to get to the aircraft. 574 00:56:49,770 --> 00:56:58,470 But I'm just kind of hoping that it's not just a set of the durability sources and he could have a great life with 575 00:56:58,470 --> 00:57:03,970 making sure all the amount of chance he could have all thought that. 576 00:57:03,970 --> 00:57:09,630 that that may be not in the pocket of the money, but if we're concerned, you see the 577 00:57:09,630 --> 00:57:14,810 economy in the hospital or if the state won't be short, there it comes off and see where 578 00:57:14,810 --> 00:57:17,910 you decide to go, sure that can be a non-efficient thing. 579 00:57:18,190 --> 00:57:19,330 So you know what I mean? 580 00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:23,690 I just like to make sure we've laid the light this time. 581 00:57:24,010 --> 00:57:27,350 I mean, here to what we have, what we have now, we're supposed to have to move. 582 00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:37,320 I do just want to point out there on the deep air, 583 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:45,140 And that is the right now because it's a bit more difficult to get because it's a bit 584 00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:50,080 flip on a bigger species list for the US important. 585 00:57:50,720 --> 00:58:03,820 So we can still get it, but it is basically the US that's saying that from possibly much power. 586 00:58:03,820 --> 00:58:08,280 So what's the same, when I'm worried about it, you're who would have worked with it? 587 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,480 Also, the answer is question. 588 00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:19,540 All being, it being, this kind of is a kind of asset, 589 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,600 the company would have the same certificate, the documentation. 590 00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:27,560 So therefore, we know of them, yet, we're back two years ago, 591 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,200 we might not have, might not have, you know. 592 00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:34,280 And as far as being in danger, it's on the ethics too, 593 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,080 It's not kind of the street yet, and so it's still readily available. 594 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,240 You can get it. 595 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,260 I think I would like the lives in order to counter it. 596 00:58:47,020 --> 00:58:52,000 There was a chain of custody documents back when in the material came in 2001. 597 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,620 So I've heard the rumors, but there's actually, you know, this, 598 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,400 I would tell that there's, we might have any proof that the material is different. 599 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,920 So I just think we would be 600 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,580 able to write that down in the United 601 00:59:10,850 --> 00:59:11,270 States. 602 00:59:11,790 --> 00:59:13,770 Yeah, you know, you're right about that, but they're not. 603 00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:15,310 It was very difficult. 604 00:59:15,830 --> 00:59:18,990 Trump, the hard ones can be very difficult to secure, 605 00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:22,610 and we could put it in our specs, sightings, and certain other things, 606 00:59:22,830 --> 00:59:24,970 that they could then prove it possible again. 607 00:59:25,590 --> 00:59:27,910 The one of the things that Dennis talked about, 608 00:59:28,090 --> 00:59:30,030 the majority of the actually this is talking with 609 00:59:30,770 --> 00:59:34,550 the DPW director, the Belmar, the majority of the work. 610 00:59:34,550 --> 00:59:42,070 after her continued to rip out their boardwalks in a huge replacement and they came out with a composite. 611 00:59:44,690 --> 00:59:49,410 And you know I've heard both of the comments about the jersey composite boardwalks. 612 00:59:49,470 --> 00:59:53,950 So I called him up and asked him what his take on it was. 613 00:59:54,290 --> 00:59:59,910 So he talked about some of those comments, but he was very plausible for all about that. 614 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:30,960 We're still, we're still, we're still in the gathering, deprivation about specific grants and specific 615 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,940 materials in terms of way of these things. Ultimately, I think it's probably going to be the mayor's call, 616 01:00:36,940 --> 01:00:44,100 also a recommendation, we take, but we are in the lean on our consultants' professional 617 01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:51,320 recommendations, and look at the chief consensus with the River Wuffer class, as well as 618 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:58,080 our one-to-B.S. and the Department of City Council and everybody else. It doesn't mean 619 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,940 necessarily that a hundred percent of everyone's in their degree, because there's a lot of 620 01:01:01,940 --> 01:01:08,440 choices, but hopefully we'll get to a general consensus and then next year we'll do the 621 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:09,320 analysis project. 622 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:19,160 So at 1.7 a minute that I will now set inflation all over the world, but it's just 623 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,950 passionate in order to eat it. 624 01:01:21,970 --> 01:01:29,390 That's the partial approach where you maintain 40% of the existing world law in an 625 01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:37,190 60 percent. Now, if they go to compiles of a term, I'm a work guy who is watching, 626 01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:40,320 if they 627 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:46,300 went to compiles that they should be making their commitment, if they go all the way to 628 01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:52,660 compiles it, if they should sort whatever. And if you know why I have compiles it, if you 629 01:01:52,660 --> 01:01:59,080 have a pot, you would. That is actually what's being recommended. I don't know if you're 630 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,960 At the moment, 631 01:02:03,150 --> 01:02:10,070 whatever material is selected, the plan would be that the areas that are 632 01:02:10,070 --> 01:02:16,010 in green and yellow would be in the existing timber that is out there, and areas that are 633 01:02:16,010 --> 01:02:23,570 in red that be in the material that is all selected. So if it wasn't present, there would be a change 634 01:02:23,570 --> 01:02:26,410 It's number, it's going to be a change. 635 01:02:26,910 --> 01:02:31,730 Well, what happened when we owned the areas, and then they would go to the bottom 636 01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:32,970 of the national level. 637 01:02:34,170 --> 01:02:37,990 That would likely be the scenario that when there was already 638 01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:39,410 for updating. 639 01:02:40,970 --> 01:02:43,110 They would get, you know, not how you did it. 640 01:02:43,290 --> 01:02:47,070 But if all of them were, I think that was the easiest. 641 01:02:48,330 --> 01:02:50,470 If they could have seen one on this once a year, 642 01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:56,110 that with that help in some of the areas that we have more sun than others about the 643 01:02:56,110 --> 01:03:00,690 public level, a lot of we have this between more sun, deep not, 644 01:03:03,380 --> 01:03:03,800 you know, if they were 645 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,900 that yellowy thing that they sealed it, you know, in the cities of Philadelphia, 646 01:03:12,950 --> 01:03:13,190 you know, 647 01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:18,470 you want to see what's going on there, what's going on there, what's going on, you seal it, you know, 648 01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:23,730 all sides on others, which show that might explain the audience. 649 01:03:28,860 --> 01:03:31,680 I don't think Trump from Harvard specifically takes you. 650 01:03:32,620 --> 01:03:33,120 I don't know. 651 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:33,500 Yeah. 652 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,920 We actually experimented with that a little bit 653 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,440 from the Purple Heart Board block. 654 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,660 Over at the National Park in the Real Trail. 655 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,000 It's also expensive to do, to do that every year. 656 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,960 That's the only thing that can be here that I can have with no reason to face. 657 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:56,420 Even if we could be just right out in the area to make some of these watercolting, 658 01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,260 where the sun hits a lot 659 01:04:06,330 --> 01:04:09,390 of the set, and that's exactly what it's called. 660 01:04:11,030 --> 01:04:17,270 One of the suggestions from contractors and one of the two recipients we talked to was, 661 01:04:17,870 --> 01:04:20,950 the sticker boards that we have up there, the three inch boards. 662 01:04:20,950 --> 01:04:31,210 It's actually, there's a difference in the moisture content in the middle of the water versus the surface area, 663 01:04:31,590 --> 01:04:41,890 and that's potentially adding to some of the flexing that we've seen as opposed to some of these two-inch or five-quarter boards. 664 01:04:42,830 --> 01:04:45,210 So that's an interesting piece of the formula. 665 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:52,920 That's correct. 666 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,740 Yeah, we're shipping those on that one. 667 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:58,240 There you go. 668 01:04:59,220 --> 01:05:01,920 That's a chance to be dead. 669 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,460 So, we've been clotted at each other. 670 01:05:17,820 --> 01:05:18,920 They've both been pulled out. 671 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,480 They've been working at main gate itself. 672 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,620 And it looks really weird now when we did 673 01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:37,560 it. 674 01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:38,120 Steep. 675 01:05:38,660 --> 01:05:38,680 Steep. 676 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,500 No, that's just when it's just when it's too great. 677 01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:48,780 And you know, it starts at the ground, the ground, the, I think, like I mentioned, we tried 678 01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:53,500 when the purple harvest was put down, the purple harvest, when it's cut, it's actually 679 01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:58,000 very purple, it's strikingly purple, crazy purple. 680 01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:10,040 And some people, when it was first put in, we said, this is a tacit, and so someone said, you 681 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,940 to put this UV, you know, 682 01:06:11,980 --> 01:06:13,820 cut it off and try to retain it. 683 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,020 And so we did that, 684 01:06:16,020 --> 01:06:16,900 did that, did that. 685 01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:32,770 I ended my pattern for my shape. 686 01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:36,170 So I would suggest the break. 687 01:06:36,550 --> 01:06:39,930 You made out of the shape, just for progress. 688 01:06:41,170 --> 01:06:41,870 The break, okay. 689 01:06:42,110 --> 01:06:44,010 Yeah, for my granite break. 690 01:06:44,430 --> 01:06:45,310 Yeah, pretty cool. 691 01:06:45,810 --> 01:06:47,270 Yeah, probably, yeah. 692 01:06:47,530 --> 01:06:47,930 Pretty cool. 693 01:06:51,310 --> 01:06:51,470 Yeah. 694 01:06:51,470 --> 01:06:52,610 All right, because anyone else 695 01:06:59,930 --> 01:07:02,450 We're going to continue to get information. 696 01:07:02,770 --> 01:07:06,290 We're going to update the, there's an existing alternative analysis. 697 01:07:06,850 --> 01:07:09,590 We're going to report the TI's done, which is on the CDC website. 698 01:07:10,090 --> 01:07:11,750 It's a draft forum. 699 01:07:12,030 --> 01:07:14,090 We'll take comments and a consideration. 700 01:07:14,090 --> 01:07:24,430 and GPI will update that and we'll get that posted and I'm pretty easy to find here 701 01:07:24,430 --> 01:07:29,890 if it's a default or if you email me and ask me questions as we go forward. 702 01:07:30,460 --> 01:07:51,340 We're going to go back to the seat council in the coming couple of months, and have another public discussion about this, and hopefully, almost certainly we'll be going to the CBA and be in front of them, so that we several other public forums, in which this will come up. 703 01:07:51,340 --> 01:07:53,560 and I will talk about coming before. 704 01:07:54,140 --> 01:07:58,500 I guess I wanted to, as again, there is no one for a material 705 01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:02,600 in this different opinions on which to use. 706 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,280 We've tried to go into this process with a pretty open mind 707 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,660 in terms of what's the best approach. 708 01:08:12,060 --> 01:08:15,000 And I didn't know which direction we consult, 709 01:08:15,180 --> 01:08:18,000 but it's going to be coming out the other end. 710 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:27,340 So we'll see where this takes us in the cover months but I'm certainly hoping we'll be able to advance this project next year. 711 01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:28,180 Last question? 712 01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:28,520 Yes. 713 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,400 This is all we've got. 714 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,220 Yeah, I don't 715 01:08:41,260 --> 01:08:41,260 think. 716 01:08:41,380 --> 01:08:43,320 He's not going to be separate. 717 01:08:43,780 --> 01:08:46,060 So we're going to talk about one thing. 718 01:08:46,060 --> 01:08:46,740 I'm going to talk about one thing. 719 01:08:56,730 --> 01:08:58,230 I'm going to talk about one thing. 720 01:08:58,230 --> 01:08:58,950 I'm going to talk about one thing. 721 01:08:58,950 --> 01:09:00,450 I'm going to talk about two things. 722 01:09:00,450 --> 01:09:02,130 I'm going to talk about two things. 723 01:09:02,130 --> 01:09:03,250 Thanks everyone for coming.