[0:00] [Music] occasions [0:10] all right ladies so I'm going to get this thing started [0:13] the town board meeting for September 5th 2023 call into order [0:18] um welcome everybody and [0:21] I was Mr Kenny and Christian okay [0:27] all right um [0:46] sound minds and make clear decisions really that just stare at this town in [0:50] the path you'd have it to go I want to describe for every person here for their [0:53] health and welcome to other families will just keep them safe and help us [0:57] just to do your will in Jesus name [1:18] [Music] [1:27] all right can I get somebody to give me a motion for this [1:30] I'll make the Larson would approved the maintenance for all of us [1:41] does anybody have any additions or changes to this evenings [1:45] agenda [1:48] at this time Mr Mayor I'll make a motion here for the agenda has his emotion of [1:53] the city second all those in favor uh okay [1:59] yeah okay the [2:03] just read this out just please yes okay [2:10] um this is a proclamation for North Carolina Daughters of the American [2:12] Revolution and it does not say what does that last name [2:21] [Music] um [2:26] Diane long score is the representative for the daughter North Carolina daughter [2:30] American Revolution and uh Constitution week that apparently [2:35] is coming up so I'm going to be doing a proclamation [2:39] so I'll try to get through this real quick whereas it is privilege and Duty [2:42] that American people commemorate the 200 31st anniversary of drafting the [2:47] Constitution United States of America with the appropriate ceremonies and [2:50] activities and whereas Public Law 915 guarantees [2:56] the issuing the proclamation of each year by the president United States [3:00] of America designating September 17th through the 23rd is Constitution week [3:05] now therefore Eric Roberts the mayor of town Dillon do here by Brooklyn of the [3:09] week September 17th through the 23rd is Constitution week [3:13] and our adult citizen studies the Constitution reflect on on the privilege [3:17] of being an American with all the rights responsibility and privilege it involves [3:21] we need to sign this in the year of Our Lord just because I [3:27] was pretty neat do they even teach constitutions going more than anybody no [3:31] they don't how does that happen [3:35] they really don't teach constitutional schools no they don't teach cursive [3:38] anymore either that's fascinating yep [3:42] all right I'll take care of this [3:48] of you [3:51] yeah [4:00] okay um [4:02] in Focus bill can you get one so yeah so [4:10] several things have gone on in the background and some several other things [4:14] are going to be going on here in the very near future [4:19] I've had a couple of conversations with in Focus [4:22] we've got a pretty aggressive calendar I'll go ahead and show it to you but [4:27] it's it's a little uh [4:30] hard to understand the most important thing right now is [4:34] that we get a planning permission planning board whatever you want to call [4:38] it set up my statute that's a minimum of five Max of right now maximum seven we [4:45] don't have an Etc to this spot [4:50] so that's where we're at right now so I emailed you a couple times I think [4:54] once today a reminder but I really need to get five people set [4:59] up the MP5 people not own the board correct yeah the board cannot because [5:03] they recommend to you right so you cannot be you can be more adjustable you [5:07] can't be thankful um [5:40] number one on this board yeah I'll totally join this board so we need four [5:45] more I think Miss Rose said she would join us all you have to there's the only [5:50] requirements you live in Texas that's the only requirement there's no [5:54] other there's no legal requirement other than that what if you live life [5:59] in your sleep but your property is in town if you own [6:04] property downtown technically your residence must be in town so if the [6:08] house is outside of town to the properties in and out we can make an [6:11] exception of it serve that side of town [6:17] I'll find four more oh it works [6:22] you yes [6:25] two Wolverine [6:28] so there's two that's the only three more [6:31] people Chris like as well oh yeah [6:36] what about um did Chris tell you yeah yeah [6:40] okay okay he was gonna get back to me so I wasn't sure [6:44] what about Sierra uh [6:48] we're here she's young [6:55] I'll call her this video [7:00] before I tried really hard to get Josh to take the time I'm not sure if he's [7:03] good yeah [7:07] I really need to have that information by tomorrow because I've got to get [7:11] those people we're gonna start getting them lined up [7:15] and understanding what is is going to happen okay so [7:21] um you should have some other papers just so you can see what's going on [7:26] there's uh the packet looks like this at the [7:31] beginning [7:33] okay so the first set of pages is a meeting [7:40] schedule [7:43] okay it goes from there [7:46] to a ordinance [7:51] which will not so I need to actually look at that [7:54] ordinance it should have been sent to you [7:59] this morning this morning yeah [8:05] okay so it'd be great if you could approve [8:09] that [8:21] so the final thing is I'll bring you next month we don't have [8:26] rules and procedures for boards and how people come on boards and golf course so [8:30] I'll drive something and give that to you next time okay that's just not [8:33] required for tonight but just wanted to let you know the [8:39] so the sooner I get confirmation from these people and [8:43] just having contact me or McKenzie uh we'll start we'll just start blasting [8:49] the real first meeting for the planning board is scheduled for the first week of [8:53] October [9:00] and in focus should be here for that meeting [9:11] okay [9:17] and so just to kind of give you so what's going to happen is the info is [9:21] going to start coming into town talking to businesses talking to Residents [9:25] talking to you talking to the planning board [9:28] and so everything they do when they're getting ready they're going to come to [9:33] you talk about stuff that's going on they're going to bring it to the [9:37] planning board and you guys are invited you do not make [9:41] decisions at planning boards so all of you can come we're going to put it on [9:46] the agenda that you'll be there won't be a quorum because there's no decision [9:49] making but you are all invited [9:53] participated citizens yeah so I was just expect you to be there and watch what's [9:57] going on so you can understand the back and forth that's going on because we're [10:00] going to give you synopsis The Following month [10:03] if you want to know the Navy green detail it's really good for you to be [10:07] there especially for this first year in this cycle [10:11] once we get through this whole year of in Focus talking about an in Focus [10:17] presenting elements of the plant the planning for carrying them refining them [10:22] getting them back to you for approval then we'll start talking about zoning [10:27] workloads so that but that's down the road if at least 12 months down the road [10:31] so the planning process or the [10:35] comprehensive plan which is required stars now [10:38] okay as soon as I get five numbers okay confirm okay that's it thank you [10:55] a discussion process we've already done three and four two and three [11:02] you got any focus of two discuss time processes three yes that's all that's [11:08] together the InFocus is just letting you know we've I've had a couple of meetings [11:13] AIA resolution so you should have a copy of that [11:21] this is just paperwork hiding up paperwork the contractor has submitted [11:27] their first invoice to the state the state has received it they haven't [11:31] approved it yet but [11:35] there's no money out of our pocket this is just we're going to process paperwork [11:39] so this resolution is just from the [11:42] resolutions we needed to get signed should have been closer to the beginning [11:47] of the project but remind me what AI was the asset inventory assessment so that's [11:52] that 150 000 for the water that's 150 000 for the sewer they've gone done [11:56] smoke tests they counted all the meters located on [12:00] they're adjusting all of our GIS layers that work in the top you get all of that [12:04] they're going to start real soon they're finishing up on the [12:09] inventory they're going to start doing a Capital Improvements plan that's what we [12:13] really need out of it but it's a Capital Improvements plan but we're still three [12:16] months down the road before we get a final place [12:21] John's not available [12:41] question is if it doesn't have anything in it email me and I'll make sure to [12:46] make some adjustments but I'll have to talk about it next month for adoption [12:51] okay we're going back to the news to make this resolution for you yes [12:55] yeah we just need you guys to say yes to it and then the mayor can sign up [13:03] okay [Music] [13:08] she doesn't have enough batteries wait a minute that's fine let's talk about this [13:14] shoot [13:18] thank you yeah we don't need to perform but it's [13:21] crazy for history so [13:30] we're good okay uh can I get a motion to approve [13:35] the Cardinals [13:41] um but we're doing it on the table this next month so we can actually get a [13:44] chance to look at it they come up with the policies I just want by bringing it [13:47] to you I want you to look at it next month [13:52] no that's the resolution for the AIA yeah I get a motion to approve the AIA [13:58] resolution no motion [14:03] all in favor [14:16] so we're going to table this until next time [14:21] everybody give you guys a chance to look at it [14:24] it'll be on your agenda for Action seems like a whole lot of word for we don't [14:28] care about your safety your health just be here [14:31] I had to go through state law and state law is really funky and then federal law [14:37] jumps into and this even works so there's really no allowance in the [14:42] federal laws or anything from the weather proposing a town hall [14:46] so you have to say you have to say if we closed Town Hall we pay the employees [14:52] and we don't pay the employees and that's what governs [14:55] that's kind of the decision yeah and so that so I'm really really [15:00] more concerned about the treasure foreclosure than anything else and I [15:04] know Christy was talking about using or we traditionally use the counties [15:09] uh tradition if they close we close kind of thing so [15:15] and of course you'll see in there it exempts certain employees the police [15:18] department the Public Works employees who plow the road so they're considered [15:22] essential personnel so they're they're not going to be covered under this other [15:27] than they're described as a central personnel [15:33] for the other on paying [Music] [15:36] a lot of property salary is completed yeah hourly is the issue salary all [15:43] literally all I have to do is show up four hours a week and you'd have to pay [15:46] for the entire week that's a federal office I didn't even know that uh [15:52] uh that is great yes the hourly employees is that's where [15:58] there's ambiguity and you can make that decision if we close [16:04] Town Hall I would say anything but [16:10] no there's no reason at all that's what the federal government uh says unless [16:15] you say otherwise they give you the leeway to pay salary uh [16:20] or the state also does the same thing they make you take leave or [16:25] yeah and then there was in there a provision [16:29] to allow the employee as they feel unsafe [16:32] there's a provision that keeps them protected if they choose not to come in [16:37] but they would take vacation or sick tough to do that [16:46] administrative job description yeah so you asked me to come back actually back [16:51] a couple times the last time was at Canada's Forum uh and I thought well I [16:56] better get it done so I took my job description and I added in a provision [17:04] currently serve as a liaison between the board and Personnel act as Director of [17:09] Human Resources and hires [17:12] with the approval of the select board which is what you used to be called [17:19] so I've changed it to read hired and fire all staff except the police chief [17:25] and the Public Works Public Utilities manager [17:30] so and then I would always update you on what goes on with that regard it [17:35] wouldn't be in a vacuum [17:38] needs to be broader than that there's a Litany of things that you [17:43] should just be managing and doing rather than having to send out emails [17:49] well I mean my JavaScript is pretty broad beyond that [17:54] if I have a big dollar and you take an item I'm going to bring it to you just [17:58] because you know what's going on and get ready about twenty thousand dollars or [18:02] something you know I just even though it's in the budget I want you to know [18:05] what's going on but hiring firing Personnel is not one of those items like [18:09] you have to do it yourself does anybody have any questions if you have any [18:12] questions you understand what you're talking about I think [18:18] all right yeah [18:24] so I don't know everybody got it so you'll see I made a [18:30] couple of teenagers mostly stylistic you were called select [18:34] board I changed that and governing board [18:40] on my promotion with accept this I have a motion to have a second thank you [18:52] town taxes gotta raise it [19:00] okay so I'm just going to throw this at you [19:04] again I don't really remember how it got on back on the agenda I think it was [19:08] through discussions but prior to my getting here I've been here [19:15] wow I know it's my first meeting last year [19:19] so uh so proud of my getting here you guys dropped the taxes like tremendously [19:31] at the same time the economy tanked it's not doing well right now we're at 5.8 [19:39] inflation so that takes a bite out of any dollar [19:43] that we spend it requires more dollars than was previously said uh we're having [19:50] supply chain issues so costs are going up so [19:53] money is harder to combine and I'm just bringing it back up to you [19:59] because it's real challenging to get a budget balance [20:03] and be able to do just the essential thing [20:07] you'll notice this budget has very few things in it kind of had a police car in [20:12] it that's pretty much it I did put in some money for Town Hall we're getting [20:17] ready to drop 13 Grand to fix the front door [20:21] and fixing Ada issue on the front door so [20:26] those are just things that you know you're gonna have to [20:29] to be cognizant of I'm just recommending I recommend of course I recommend [20:34] balanced budget so I recommend we raise it as the next opportunity [20:38] and I don't say go back up 0.52 but can we come to a middle ground in there [20:44] somewhere otherwise I'm afraid we're just gonna [20:48] have to really really can you showed me those numbers uh last month I think it [20:53] was on how much of a beating that change [20:57] caused yeah and then with whatever they call it whatever how bad [21:04] it's gone exponentially so yeah essentially [21:09] if we left the tax where it was we would have balanced the budget but we [21:16] probably wouldn't have bought side [21:26] they're just in deplorable conditions and it's lack of maintenance [21:31] we've got that large backhoe we're getting ready to actually trade it for [21:36] an excavator it'll be an even trade across so whatever we owe [21:41] we'll get it we'll work with the bank to get that refinance appropriately but [21:46] that'll give us a backho or an excavator which will be a lot more useful to us [21:51] get a lot more efficient on the fuel that we use [21:54] we'll go get better use out of it but we're still looking at replacing at [21:59] least three more vehicles um and that's in the short term and [22:04] short term for me is three to five years so what's the mechanism raise the tax [22:08] backups or certain time frame you're supposed to do that well you really have [22:11] to rate you can only raise taxes at tax time so everybody's got their tax bill [22:15] you can't raise it you can raise their tax now but it won't be affected until [22:18] next year okay [22:23] yeah you do it for January what you don't do some remaining and then January [22:27] 1 it takes and then we send out tax bills [22:53] it really wasn't quite that bad it was you could see the things moving in that [22:57] direction but it really took off by the time you would have adopted a tax change [23:01] right after that it just skyrocketed uh and and but I mean you could see it [23:07] happening yeah [23:10] so it was just it was too much in my opinion just [23:15] looking at the budget how numbers work and how how much we spend and how we [23:19] spend it it was a lot to hear on my recommendations that we seriously [23:24] consider raising back up at least halfway it's accordingly yeah exactly [23:34] somewhere in there [23:38] because I'm afraid if we don't do that we're going to get into a problem where [23:42] we're going to be up at 0.55 or 0.56 the following year and that's really going [23:47] to be a shot I think right now we can get up to 0.4849 [23:51] then we're it'll be a little bit of a shock but [23:56] it's we'll be able to sustain that for a longer period of time [24:00] we're also doing things online to make it we're more efficient [24:04] so we're not spending money the way we used to spend it the phone system for [24:08] example you know cut out a bunch of extends for us we're looking at [24:13] replacing Vehicles we're replacing the backhoe with the excavator was going to [24:18] save us much money on fuel much money on insurance so we're looking [24:23] at different things to try to save money on our end to help balance it out [24:29] I'm doing some rough figuring so like I do this every time [24:34] so if someone only has a hundred thousand dollars worth of property if [24:37] they taxes on it's gonna upload sixty dollars for them to go [24:42] I mean on the average [24:53] there's another big ball in one of them after taxes [25:02] and there's money you know we're sitting over here and we're boating [25:08] we're he's talking one hand about saving money and then we're voting to send [25:12] Vehicles home all the way out of County of police officers so I mean and I knew [25:16] this was coming but that's just my opinion [25:19] I just don't see the I think we can figure out other ways [25:25] I would be the greatest president before a month [25:39] you need to make a change in December [25:47] provide you whatever information you need to help make your decision just let [25:51] me know all right event [26:01] is this a big Trek events I think we were going to do a special [26:07] meeting about events yeah oh and that was decided event [26:12] and we and I think Bill or I don't know who but somebody decided to just do it [26:16] tonight okay so do you remember Christy was here do you remember what it was [26:20] about [26:22] it was it was looking at coordination because you Christy are handling the [26:29] majority of the events but the mayor for example is trying to add things in here [26:33] and there and we're just trying to find a mechanism to help coordinate that [26:38] stuff so that you know you don't have the parachutists and nobody knows about [26:45] it kind of thing so that that this time period was just the ability to talk [26:51] about that when did you guys meet for your record guess like for your [26:54] Christmas dinner parade and stuff like that do you all have meetings on that [26:58] honestly [27:02] honestly it was like because most of them have been like something that have [27:06] started and it's like you're having it happen over time so it just almost it [27:10] happened it was awful thank you yeah cool okay well let's uh [27:15] let's let's always try and maybe work out of time and we can sit [27:20] down and say you know for instance if we're doing skydivers again next year [27:24] we've got to send them a you know a deposit check and we're going to do [27:28] fireworks Jamie wanted to do which I agree with and I think everybody agreed [27:32] with it his name was it voted on on the fishing [27:35] tournament never was but we know okay well I think that we should add the [27:39] fishing tournament back in we've got a kind of a quagmire with this next next [27:43] Fourth of July because I think it comes on like Thursday yeah it's really weird [27:48] so we really got to figure that out yeah I was just on the Saturday closest [27:53] I guess people more opportunities yeah I'm perfectly fine [27:58] the next issue is that this area is actually in June [28:02] well that's right now [28:07] it's not fun to go in retrospect or I can't drink that much alcohol [28:18] do you guys care if I go ahead and talk to Eric he's already called me once uh [28:23] Jacob [28:44] even though we told them we didn't really have a we didn't have a good plan [28:49] on our end to let information get out and I don't understand why we don't like [28:55] possibly do a you know a spring summer billboard like over in the Banner Elk [29:00] area with everything that we're doing all the festival we're doing Norman [29:04] needs to do that somebody used to do it for like Johnson County down there yeah [29:11] I think you were with me talking a bunch of veterans about the skydivers coming [29:15] they don't have a clue when they're living here [29:18] so yeah a lot of this time around let's [29:21] work them out [Music] [29:23] on that note who does the public relations who does the marketing who [29:27] does the pub like all of the social media because I mean like the website [29:31] needs to be updated updated for Newland things need to be put out there the [29:35] Newland has going on just like you're saying I mean yeah we're we're [29:40] when I first came in I was a hawk about that trying to get all that you know [29:44] worked out Facebook trying to get Instagram trying to get everybody lined [29:48] up we hired somebody to do the the website website and then we ran him [29:53] off because we hired a town clerk that had computer experience but then we [29:57] quickly realized that we were dumping too much stuff onto her [30:01] and then she dips out of the town Facebook page we recently found out that [30:05] when she left she left she's in control of that because it's married to her [30:09] personal page that's why you don't see anything but sounding new look she [30:12] worked out of that apartment so now we're trying to go through those [30:15] hooks and trying to get hurt either because she's not compliable [30:18] uh yeah I'm sure she well I mean I would just try to reach out to her then okay [30:23] yeah I mean that's that's a serious problem because I mean vaynerd [30:27] Blowing Rock any any towns that have a tourism industry done through here their [30:33] stuff is updated you know at least every three months yeah yeah I mean oursis [30:37] hasn't been updated in almost a year I just looked at it the other day and I'm [30:40] very disappointed I talked to Spectrum news recently because you know Blowing [30:43] Rocks always got all their stuff on Spectrum news you know have that little [30:46] like a minute rolls through what's going on ash what's going on blowing up and [30:51] you know it's actually free for us to put that put what we're going on with us [30:55] you know even food truck Thursday put that on there um yeah I spoke the news [31:00] I'll give you their information but um but yeah that's something that you know [31:05] that yes it's you know it's hurting our town it's killing we're dying already we [31:10] don't need a diamond further yeah then coming back to life but that's my [31:14] opinion I agree thank you James no no I definitely see a lot of changes I've had [31:20] a lot of people say to me that they see a lot of positive changes there's still [31:23] a lot to do because it was we we've had over this last year the the events the [31:29] things that we've done the flags that sort of thing that we've got have just [31:33] completely changed completely changed the way people look at newly yeah [31:38] so we're we're moving that down the road and that's one of those things [31:43] up for Labor Day [31:50] I mean no direction to do it traditional who else did it I don't know [32:02] I mean y'all tell me I I always thought you just worked better today [32:06] [Music] [32:16] yeah yeah Labor Day I mean no I've seen them you know yeah [32:23] oh [32:26] they were for the dream yeah there's nothing to prevents us from doing it we [32:31] just in that direction not traditional [32:39] um [32:44] no apparently y'all got straightened out yeah [32:55] like every time Lauren puts something on Friends of you and I'll take care of [32:58] people on our website go ahead Chris [33:11] Thursday so yeah it's been very recently someone bought a webcam for us to put up [33:18] right Chief they gave it to you it was a gift to the town I never [33:23] actually yeah [33:26] but it was to put up and paste the red lights on it [33:34] awake when the word outside [33:39] first I heard about it yeah who bought it who donated I just donated by [33:43] Creekside Electronics gotcha [33:47] yes let's keep brainstorming I like that [33:51] we're rolling about the billboard idea Spectrum news if anyone else think of [33:56] any other method of promotion I think the signs you know they're all so [34:01] they're you know that say like the food trucks and stuff like that's good it's [34:04] good and the one out front of town hall I just try to I know offense to them but [34:10] I try to avoid the newspaper because I don't feel like it's actually your bang [34:13] for your buck or considering you know the book is [34:16] flashing signs but for the wooly worms yeah we do too yeah [34:23] we've got that yeah so we have one out front and then we have one that's on the [34:28] street here at the stationary went out president [34:31] yeah and we was Mobile on it just a lot of [34:36] people come from Tennessee that's why it's over that way you know that always [34:39] is something you could apply for a grant for the North Carolina emergency [34:42] management here I'm thinking what are we trying are we are we having [34:48] interest in adding more festivals July we'll get the Fall Festival [34:54] Christmas season just one over season so it [34:59] doesn't overwhelm me so much but we were being disgusted by the town of [35:03] Blowing Rock because of the phrase you're [35:06] Festival which is the Outlander Festival apparently they're trying to take [35:10] they're trying to bring Outlander and start bringing some of their cast [35:14] and have a festival for the Frasier Festival anybody here watch out later [35:19] well technically if you have read the books here's where Fraser's Ridge is [35:26] [Music] [35:32] I don't think you have to worry about that but I'm going to bring it up and [35:36] throw it out there just in case you know the town noodle wants to get in [35:40] front of that and the suggestion was to be done around [35:44] uh what the Highland Games something something marries that up I always [35:50] thought it was nice and neat to do the Scarecrow was in the roofs on the light [35:54] poles if we could ever get that yeah the new ones up I always thought that was a [35:58] neat so what we're talking about that Gary [36:01] you know I've been trying not to put you know too many people [36:05] too many people's business ad I'm bringing up a couple big sweepers [36:09] tomorrow from town because I've asked for a year and a half now since I've [36:12] been mayor was the number one thing I wanted we bought we had fallen short [36:16] with the fire department they have lost their five thousand dollar donation [36:19] because they don't want to do it so I'm going to bring them in myself my career [36:22] is going to be taking care of the gutters tomorrow was pulled up right [36:26] here at the Carter's Corner Mr carton was kind of spent all that money turned [36:29] that corner around and it's eight inches in [36:33] in Weeds and gutters full of dirt so [36:37] I'm going to be doing that Thursday [36:42] so Bill and Gary I'd like at some point for [36:45] us to get together and figure out some more stuff we can do [36:50] you know just just clean up the appearance [36:53] let's get back on the planet appearance and all this grass is going through I've [36:57] seen that we sprayed but you still have four to six inches of dead grass growing [37:02] through yeah we're also trying to work on [37:05] striking all the parking spaces so I'll donate the Striking for free I gotta get [37:11] dot permission on media boats that's what's slowed me out [37:15] I don't care if it's doing nighttime and just not telling who did it [37:21] a lot of talks in the past about the T-Rex and [37:25] how official to have [37:28] would go in water flowers with milk jugs full of water lined up on the back of [37:31] their car we just don't have those people and I mean as I wish it could be [37:35] spread thinner and peanut butter already uh maybe the planning committee [37:40] I don't know she likes a chunky on there but I don't know [37:46] and I'm just niche of people are willing to them [37:50] yes the problem that I have about it and [37:54] that's all you know hunky dory and Kumbaya but [37:58] it doesn't get done and I've been the number one thing that I ran on was [38:02] trying to clean up the gutters and clean up the sidewalks and clean up the lights [38:06] and and here we are uh you know I keep [38:09] waiting for the fire department show up and they're not going to do it and we [38:13] know where we're at for them I'm telling y'all I'm gonna be able to [38:16] sweeper and I'm hoping this is going to work and I'm sure you'll get a lot of [38:19] complaints and we'll have some big blowers behind it it's going to make a [38:22] mess for a little bit but I'm tired of seeing it [38:26] um so uh you know I don't know why we can't [38:30] it take some of this 1.37 million dollars to sit in the journal from [38:34] Jessica [38:37] let me know is there a reason why we don't you know [38:41] when you first come in town plus some dailies I told the high school about you [38:44] know their at that Bakery you'll find some delicious [38:51] trying to clean it up another thing these lights that you see those other [38:54] times they string lights you know through the downtown we have enough [38:58] buildings to do that [39:02] um [39:06] so I was in Los Angeles we saw that in every corner I thought that would be [39:09] anything like Los Angeles but it was ridiculous yeah well the difference [39:13] between here in Los Angeles is stay on the streets and Dot on it's the main [39:16] thing so when you say that does that mean that they're not allowed to do [39:20] something because they've made it very clear to Jamie and I went out there and [39:23] talked they see anything from the inside of town limits they don't care about [39:26] them they don't but they still at least how to get permission to mow the the [39:31] grass there and we stopped to get permission to do striping I mean they [39:35] own the road so do you remember do you remember the permission they gave us [39:38] when we were arguing about I mean we had that argument I went out there and the [39:42] permission we got from them was why are you asking us you you can mow the grass [39:46] that's fine with us we don't care because it's out of town my point is I'm [39:49] tired of asking I want some I want something to accomplished [39:54] okay so if you're having problems with DOT then tell me and I'll pay my guys to [39:58] do it because that way the town's not involved [40:00] and we're not worried about somebody getting hit by a car [40:03] clean it up that's all that's all I want we're red [40:07] and white oh so that oh I was going to discuss [40:11] that when you discuss it now so we have uh 273 thousand dollars worth of [40:18] materials below we don't have that much in the budget [40:21] we've got like 180 some thousand dollars my recommendation is that we buy the [40:27] poles now all of them [40:31] uh the reason I say that is which is 273 right let's say that is because the [40:36] manufacturing process could change we could buy say a whole circuit or two [40:41] circuits now I think we we can do like 30 likes now [40:45] complete but if the manufacturing changes and I [40:49] can't get that pole anymore then all of a sudden in the middle of the project [40:51] I'm saying the poles the lights are pretty much you know we can get those [40:56] minutes all the way down the road with weekends that or give me another 100 [41:01] forty seven thousand dollars and I'll just do the whole thing [41:06] but that's why recommendation is that we just we just go ahead and get the pulse [41:09] now that includes the bases and the mounting brackets and the you know [41:13] everything so from the ground up so all you need to do after that is labor [41:16] equipment I need labor to put them in and then I'll need the lights themselves [41:20] so I can get those on next year's budget or if we can find some money [41:26] okay well tell me something if we can find some money just till we have 1.3 [41:30] something million dollars in two different accounts is that correct no [41:35] no well we have it I don't care I don't care if it's in 50 accounts we can go [41:39] 100 if you want to take it [41:43] and that's fine okay that's fine we have we have we have since I started this [41:50] yes it's the lights get this can around just like the dog [41:52] park we've not got anything accomplished and [41:56] we all agree on what new life is Gail you want new lights [41:59] Jamie Christie Lauren so I don't understand why the board cannot say okay [42:06] whatever we need to do to get new lights take it out of the whatever fund we need [42:09] to take it out of and let's move forward okay and I apologize if I'm no it's just [42:15] frustrating to me that the government takes so damn long I want lights out I [42:20] want a town cleaned up so what do you need [42:23] bill you need 90 000 to buy 273 correct I need another hundred and forty [42:29] thousand dollars okay is that do it is that doable is that in some mysterious [42:33] account that we have well they're not mysterious yeah [42:40] Jamie help me out here so what's going to happen here is 10 [42:44] years from now we're going to still be dealing lights if you want to transfer [42:48] money in the budget [42:51] Amendment bam James tell me tell me what what is the hold up here [42:58] anymore I I don't want to say well I tried for four years to get new lights [43:02] number one thing that we talked about we got the dog park finally successfully [43:06] after a year and a half it is complete and they've got to put poles we got the [43:13] fencing that's again I don't think I was gonna talk about but the fence was [43:16] completely in so we have other things we want to do we've got the dog it's great [43:20] dog stations in the signs are up looks great we don't have any furniture yet we [43:24] don't have any play things from the dog we were going to mulch the entire thing [43:28] if you'll also look we're cleaning out a pond back there because part of the dog [43:34] park problem is water sitting so now we've got a flow through there that area [43:39] will dry out it looks great it looks really good yeah so and again I won't [43:46] have anything to say when it comes to my turn so that's great but [43:50] but all these things are kind of interlocking together but the dog park [43:54] has been used every time I go down there there's there's at least three or four [43:58] people down there they love it so and I've got a lot of positive feedback I've [44:02] only got one negative feedback so the two years that Christie tried to get [44:06] done before I came on 18 months after I came on prompt sure I'd help it is [44:09] almost four years for a twenty thousand dollar Park [44:13] okay 28 000 that makes absolutely no sense to me that's [44:18] so much that thing going on [44:23] there yeah yeah exactly thank you so tonight I would like for us to resolve [44:27] the lights thing so Bill put us in a ballpark number yes [44:36] tonight yeah sure all right [44:39] bubble confidence public comments anybody like jump in and yes ma'am yes [44:44] hi my name is Amy great job you're welcome [44:50] I just want to thank the town everybody anyone Lauren especially for making food [44:57] trip Thursday night a success it's been a while since it has been [45:02] great and I'm born and raised David County [45:06] still live Glory Lake County L.A L.A that's right I will tell you this uh Ada [45:12] County is growing and he's a lot with what's going on in New York are the [45:16] closest pushed by another new one that's three times dying yes [45:20] it's hard to shut down two weeks ago yeah I heard that I mean it's been [45:24] parties in a new one is picking up and I'm gonna say a lot of it has to do with [45:29] food truck Thursday but I will say that I've had comments [45:34] that oh we came up there and we didn't know that the thrift shop was there [45:39] apparently yeah somebody came and said what's that [45:44] little diner out there where we can't turn in here that's her case Country [45:47] Kitchen whether they had the best breakfast in town she's a breakfast [45:50] place there on Sundays a lady from my church if you don't know it was there it [45:54] wasn't there if we had never [46:01] from us so we just want to be sure that we're doing it for next year we're in it [46:07] for the Long Haul we've got some great food truck rentals [46:11] We're Cute [46:15] none of these police officers [46:26] I'm just here to say thank you thank you for sure [46:31] [Music] how hard would that be next year to move [46:36] into a Friday and put a band on the stage again be very hard yes some of the [46:41] bigger events that we do uh and we're talking about every Friday and Saturday [46:45] Friday and Saturday again September October but most of my 70 my years [46:51] before Oh okay this is Saturday so you wouldn't get a food trucks that would be [46:54] worth pulling in yeah one of the things that Lauren has done brilliantly is [46:58] marketed this yeah to where people know about it and she's phoned some of the [47:03] bigger trucks that have the bigger following we have approximately about 15 [47:06] 000 people that follow all of us we're pulling from Spruce Pine for Banner out [47:10] we're pulling Burnsville Marion yeah would it hurt y'all if you put a band on [47:15] the stage with you on Thursday no sir not what somewhere [47:21] that's a lot of Fellowship that goes Island yeah just the entertainment [47:27] but I will share with you that others have tried it and it wasn't it didn't [47:31] matter yeah they might buy from the Japanese like him and he can enter there [47:38] didn't come get him a donut right through the band or the people no [47:43] no no the people to stay what we want them to try to stay in here okay well [47:48] you I mean you wouldn't believe how many people come and that's that we're still [47:51] there a couple hours later yeah I mean it's sort of like a class for you you [47:56] know a family yeah they have it now and they hang around and tile we appreciate [48:01] y'all I mean we could try it it would I love music okay [48:06] search up on it say do can you give a microphone I taught to Lynn church about [48:18] you know it might draw a few of their fans in to buy food too yeah yeah [48:24] and we didn't have a lot of great local talent been in church yeah [48:29] I love them boys really good we need more [48:33] too much so we've been doing it every other is a lot to put too much [48:39] away from them too [48:42] if they feel like they're being took away the problem [48:44] someone told me Point blanket we've had people famous [48:50] [Music] [48:59] [Music] anything every Thursday next summer [49:04] would not be too much on you it might be too much [49:07] so I have to understand well I think you you've done a great job [49:14] of building a successful model the point to where other towns want to copy it so [49:18] elf Park is coffee you know rolling mountains coffee and that's why I was [49:22] trying to get it we're trying to Mitchell County their Chamber of [49:25] Commerce is trying to do that again but the formula that you have and that's [49:29] what the others want to say with the band I don't mess with success if it's [49:33] working I don't want to pick something bro [49:36] so but um we want to try it a couple times why [49:40] not but um long story short thank you very much [49:43] for the pounding me on very close to us but we're grateful we're [49:48] grateful for Lauren for all of them because there's hundreds of hours ago no [49:52] he doesn't this is not something that's easy and I will tell you bigger [49:56] constituents yeah oh yeah I hear it every day yeah yeah we hear nothing but [50:01] positives about it yeah when the restaurants are saying they like it and [50:04] you've done something right [50:09] strategic giving people that Thursday off it makes them want it more yeah [50:16] next Thursday [50:25] oh we got that tomorrow we go there tomorrow if they see us oh we gotta go [50:29] we didn't see them again so I mean same way if you're a good person we know sit [50:33] with the first time we might not get back yeah [50:47] go ahead [50:50] um I just want to thank Commander for finding [50:53] um they are so professional and like 10 times like family and and the lady Tammy [51:00] spoke about it's exactly [51:11] you know [51:17] um [51:22] anyone [51:26] anymore [51:31] it was all his idea let me tell you the story this man literally he came in on [51:35] the December event the day of it's like hey I heard you have another event can I [51:40] come be a part and he thought it was wildly successful the new one like the [51:45] Rock Gym the Christmas thing and in the cold weather he was selling Donuts like [51:49] hotcakes so he's like let's do something here let's make something along the map [52:07] the dates for the others are September 7th this Thursday [52:11] the 21st the 12th of October and the 26th of [52:16] October yes and that while we're at events treat [52:20] strangle this fall on Halloween this year yeah I saw that on Facebook [52:23] somebody was asking my articles yes and I get lots of flack the years that I [52:27] have to put on another day but you have to realize the business owners are [52:30] imperative to treat Street and we don't want to drag them out on a Saturday or [52:34] Sunday they deserve their day off so y'all coming home [52:39] do you all want to come and vegan I mean I haven't offered that in the group yet [52:43] but okay [52:53] how many people [52:57] I've always heard it's been pets there's a 2300 2400 at least [53:04] good start we tried to do an unofficial account [53:09] last year I got well over 15 [53:15] more than one time but I walked up and down the street and just started [53:19] counting and I got over 1500 it's like yes yeah it was [53:25] Halloween this year yeah if it's a weekday it's cool but if it's a Saturday [53:31] Byron did you happen to see my email about asking of how we could make it a [53:35] little more pedestrian friendly I did and I'm still thinking about that [53:41] somebody at the courthouse had mentioned it to my colleague Michael P [53:46] um and I think he's willing to coordinate [53:49] with you if you want extra hormones [54:13] yeah they remain open and they set up outside their door and [54:17] you know set up stuff but [54:22] okay all right [54:25] um any other public comments [54:34] and I just want to thank you and about Roscoe wants to thank you and I I see [54:41] the same a lot of the same people out there and you don't know how much that [54:45] means and um [54:48] she said I literally had to keep my dog in my house this whole time because she [54:54] can't keep you know the dog pulls her a little bit yeah and she said be able to [54:59] let that dog and I know it took a long time but I [55:03] know you guys worked on grants I know you did anything but it means a lot that [55:07] you listen and I also wanted to talk about and I [55:11] didn't know why you were cleaning that up you know it really looks good yeah [55:16] and I was there on Saturday and I don't think it was one of your [55:21] officers I believe it's real nice failure he was trying to find someone [55:24] that I think he'd plan to be bothering um and so he was there and he pulled up [55:29] and he you know everything and he said this is going to help us so much yeah [55:34] because we can see from the road there and I was walking the other morning and [55:38] two there's two two or three elderly they said walk every morning and that's [55:44] I told him I was coming to think about this and they said well you know thank [55:47] thank him for this because you know when they went around that corner yeah [55:53] so I feel safer yeah but so um I know you know I I just it just meant a lot to [56:01] me that you listened to me well tell me this it says [56:05] you use it what else could we put out there I mean I know we're gonna put some [56:08] yeah I feel a lot of different things of [56:11] course benches is the first thing you want to be careful about toys and things [56:16] uh because you have to watch uh skateboarders and you know because they [56:21] want to come if you do ramps and do tricks and stuff so you want to be very [56:25] careful that you don't have things that people can destroy and they'll get in [56:29] there so right now the people who are using our dog owners and I promised when [56:34] I came here we had when I came here four years ago three years ago I said if you [56:38] get one I will check it regularly and I do I check it in the morning [56:42] and walk the dog the dog and I my dog's gonna come midday [56:45] and then I'll check it in the afternoon uh to make sure that it's because we got [56:50] to take care of what you guys need have you been out there at night yet is there [56:54] enough lighting yes it's there's enough lighting there's not many people that [56:58] use it at night um but do you think if we I'm talking [57:02] about electric and they've agreed to put a light pole on the back corner which [57:06] would cover the entire thing I think it would help and then uh since I think [57:10] Public Works is here so and I wasn't willing to Bride on them [57:14] about another thing sometimes we just brag today I was wondering if we could [57:20] if we could do an outside spigot there at the bathroom [57:24] you know that frost proof for the water for the dogs [57:28] somebody kindly left a nice heavy bowl video and uh and and I've left that [57:34] there you know now there's been I think two times since you pay that I've had to [57:38] pick up any trash in there and I don't have to tell you only one time I had to [57:43] clean up another person's so so they're taking care of that I think the benches [57:47] would help and then an outside Stadium the other thing is I live right outside [57:52] of Newton but connected to to where I live is the uh the old station they're [57:59] the septic stations and you know it goes off sometimes and that [58:05] uh Roger and those guys they I call and they're so quick to come and apologize [58:12] if that's going on so you really have people that are trying uh they don't [58:17] ever say it seem like it's you know but that's a big thing thank you for [58:21] listening thank you for coming because it's very rare that there's people [58:25] coming out of it seems like we're having Kumbaya even tonight [58:28] that's fine if somebody you know was against it you [58:33] know I think I read somewhere you're against animals and I don't know before [58:37] you because I mean you know they're the most innocent creatures [58:41] um so I I would love that and then I was going to ask if if a person wanted on [58:47] the Treat Street if they wanted to to set up a KB Cannon interview yeah [58:51] absolutely okay CVS parking lot any of the Open Spaces you just pull up so have [58:56] a good day okay because I noticed last year a lot of people did have to go [59:13] [Music] [59:34] you're welcome [59:38] and you have some work hard I don't know where they live [59:42] in new one but they pick up trash every Sunday afternoon and I don't know who [59:47] those people are so have you seen them I really don't know where they live but [59:52] every Sunday afternoon they're beginning to talk about yeah one kind of thought [59:56] he runs every morning uh they live right above you or Aaron my name is [1:00:07] and not always talking back oh okay and also my doctors [1:00:14] [Music] that's awesome okay [1:00:18] um you know any other problems [1:00:21] public comments all right let's uh move to our reports [1:00:29] Gary all right I tried to print mine out but [1:00:33] uh printer wouldn't work so uh doing a lot of molding had a lot of things going [1:00:37] on [1:00:40] and just trying to catch up on some things uh trying to keep 181 going out [1:00:46] of town mode I know we got to get back over on the other side it's just kind of [1:00:49] hard to do that with [1:00:52] um what do you think about spraying them just kill it off yeah around the uh [1:00:56] guardrail number one is I want to wash down into the river number two then it's [1:01:00] all going to wash away if we kill the grass [1:01:04] kind of catch but you know if I thought about trying to go out [1:01:08] there with a push mower but there's so many ones and well the push more better [1:01:13] than weed here we need to move along but I've got a lot going on with the park I [1:01:19] was down there most of the day Jessica said I look like I've been on the beach [1:01:22] I said well I missed that trip there's a lot going on there uh we fixed [1:01:28] the link ups cost of the day coming out of the whale and we currently [1:01:33] have a problem with well forward so uh not sure if it's the pump or if it's [1:01:39] just the wine is in the motor uh Gerald was never going to look at that in the [1:01:42] morning so uh that's pretty much what we've got [1:01:45] right now so when I sent you the text about him taking the power offline they [1:01:49] had already done it yeah yeah because that takes the guys to tell them and [1:01:52] Mark said well the generator running the detergent plane so yeah they I mean they [1:01:57] don't mean much but yeah sorry yeah all right uh finance officer [1:02:05] oh okay so you all have all your numbers for all of our accounts if you're ready [1:02:12] uh pretty much all I've been really focusing on is that 2122 annual Town [1:02:19] audit that I've been working on for a couple months my goal is to have that [1:02:24] completed by the end of October and then we will go ahead and do our 22-23 which [1:02:31] fingers crossed that's not going to be that bad and hopefully that's going to [1:02:33] be kind of selling and then we're going to be all caught up and I also submitted [1:02:39] our annual workers comp self audit this this might have been haven't heard [1:02:43] anything back so hopefully that thing [1:02:49] and just keeping up all their day to day-to-day things [1:02:54] Gary I was going to say one more thing I mean like Bill said I've heard nothing [1:02:58] but good things about what we're doing down there I mean it's going to take a [1:03:02] couple more weeks to get it cleaned up and look nice but of all the people I've [1:03:06] talked to has come out on the Riverwalk and said what are y'all doing [1:03:09] everybody's been like great you know what do you need to do this so you're [1:03:12] gonna try and get on the other side of the river as well [1:03:15] hopefully I mean we've got to be careful with the river but we we do want there's [1:03:19] some decent taller trees over there you know that we want to leave along but we [1:03:23] want to kind of get in between you know get the brush cleaned out in between [1:03:26] because that that too there's places to hide along that River Bank back there so [1:03:31] we want a full line site if we can get them so but that's that's the next step [1:03:36] he's working down to here and then I think before we finish cleaning up [1:03:40] because that's going to make even more messes to try and get [1:03:43] River and then once we clean up we'll be moved through and be done just the water [1:03:48] running in that little pond off huh [1:03:53] depends not really usually it fills up with a big rain but like where he's [1:03:59] cleaned stuff out you know when we let Friday there wasn't hardly any water [1:04:03] except just down at the bottom and then when we walked right there Saturday it's [1:04:07] like where did all that water go from so as the ground dries out it's coming back [1:04:12] up I think if we get it down to a point we can keep water in the pond but you're [1:04:17] probably not going to get a lot of water other than that would it be something [1:04:21] maybe a miniature with the live Community a little fish and falling in [1:04:24] and just stock of the white bluegill or something for the kids or anything [1:04:27] I don't know if it would be deep enough it's only like seven feet oh that's way [1:04:32] deep in that I don't know if you don't have fresh water it's continuous you [1:04:37] know it's like you kind of clumping out of the river [1:04:41] we might be able to figure something out I mean you can catch it out of the river [1:04:46] and run it in and run it up it's a state project that is just designed to kind of [1:04:50] take overflow [1:04:53] yeah [1:04:58] it's one of those projects that we got on the ground that we're supposed to be [1:05:03] maintaining we haven't maintained it so it's in bad condition so it's taking a [1:05:08] lot of effort to get it into good condition [1:05:12] one more thing we could have done with the backup we don't have to reach we've [1:05:16] got an excavator with the guy that's helping them and then he's got plenty of [1:05:20] reach on there so he's able to get around [1:05:22] the only thing is the timing of a dog park kind of messed him up so he has a [1:05:27] machine that goes through and just eats weeds [1:05:30] for lunch I mean breaks them down into little chunks it's a great machine but [1:05:35] he can't get it back because the fence is in already [1:05:38] so you can't get back there because of the Ponder outside [1:05:42] but you know just getting that thing cleaned out [1:05:45] and getting all the muck out of it there's you're going to see a lot of [1:05:49] changes we're putting in some additional piping covering uh because the Beavers [1:05:54] love to build dams in there and try to track the water so we're gonna get them [1:05:58] at least push them out to the river and get them out of that area and see if [1:06:03] we can keep it up longer we're going to put in a set on the Basin before the [1:06:07] pond to try to catch some of the mud and stuff coming down so the water that goes [1:06:11] through there stays cleaner it doesn't fill up as fast just back up what are [1:06:16] you trying to do with the Beavers yeah move them out to the river where [1:06:20] they belong they're enlighten me so I'll call every liberal outfit up [1:06:25] here if you start messing with the Beavers [1:06:30] okay any more public comments yes ma'am I wanted to um [1:06:36] say a lot of us in Land Harbor went and rescued the paper blocks that were taken [1:06:41] out from Courthouse area over there when they redid that area and [1:06:46] um we didn't know about it until somebody stumbled across it but we sure [1:06:51] appreciate it because we pulled almost a thousand paper blocks out of there [1:06:54] between us and we're reusing those and we're reusing we went for bags of sand [1:06:59] and stuff and so we've got it pretty well cleaned out of there was pretty [1:07:03] much a big mess at the recycle center but we we've got most of the materials [1:07:07] back out of there all right [1:07:10] County Courthouse oh yeah we just apparently Discord all of them all with [1:07:15] the recycle center [1:07:20] you know backyards or stairs or whatever and this year [1:07:26] um thanks to Lauren we're also going to be participating a group of us in the uh [1:07:31] There She Goes Again [1:07:52] [Music] [1:07:56] thank you thank you for coming Stephen [1:07:59] is anybody else say anything for public comments yeah [1:08:15] marijuana [1:08:29] perhapso been working pretty diligently on the bank of Michigan we've had the [1:08:34] last couple of months we're still still looking at those cases [1:08:40] per day so [1:08:48] thank you [1:08:52] thank you because already yeah you've already done [1:08:56] years most of it I just want to point out some [1:09:00] of the vandalisms talking about that's happening at our our facilities [1:09:04] so every time we see something we say something to the cheese so we can try to [1:09:09] get at acquire in the facilities uh I don't know if you went out to the ark [1:09:15] but they tore the ramp off of that and somebody painted some really graphic [1:09:19] graffiti on the inside we got to complain about that just take it and [1:09:25] so I mean eventually it's coming down I just don't know we're taking it down or [1:09:29] the church statement down let's play with a dog breach but indelible yeah we [1:09:33] can do that [1:09:36] and then you're opening yeah yeah but because Jesus came from [1:09:41] uh I I want to say also that you know we're again you're starting to see stuff [1:09:48] happen we're getting into a position where stuff is happening [1:09:52] uh the pond out there is something that we should have done all along we're now [1:09:56] getting it it's on our maintenance schedule now once we get it cleaned out [1:09:59] uh we're getting it set up so when Gary goes to maintain it at the beginning of [1:10:04] the year it'll be simpler and won't be as big and complex as it is we'll be [1:10:10] able to keep it vote down part of that mowing down was access to the river but [1:10:14] it was safe there was just no safety there at all I [1:10:18] mean I I stood out there one day and watched people walk around the pond and [1:10:22] want to get around the other side it's like I don't see them again I don't know [1:10:25] what happens and you got little Trails down in the river and then you've got [1:10:30] clothing all along there so people are sleeping back in there [1:10:35] so there's you know there are a lot of safety [1:10:39] concerns that we have this is our plan along the entire stretch of the [1:10:43] Riverwalk from from one end to the other is making [1:10:47] sure the banks are stabilized making sure the brush is clear so you can get [1:10:51] easy access and you have visibility [1:10:55] one of the things we'll do with street lights that we take out is try to put [1:10:59] some on you know filling gaps [1:11:03] on the trail on the Riverwalk so we'll fill in some gaps uh put some in where [1:11:09] the you know the dog park and any other place that we can find it we're also [1:11:13] looking at the way we provide power at the event area is not adequate so we're [1:11:22] looking at ways to fix that the way we provide water is not accurate we want to [1:11:27] basically run hose across the river and bring it to us speaking so that [1:11:33] we're looking at ways to change that so we're getting prices on that we're going [1:11:36] to see if we can work it in this budget grade if not we'll be on the next budget [1:11:39] but those are all things that we're doing to try to get things on our hip to [1:11:44] run a lot smoother time on putting in when people pay to [1:11:48] get water from poker apps thank you [1:11:52] what do you mean it depends on the complexity we've got one that we're [1:11:56] going to have to have a contract to pull the water because it's going under the [1:11:58] river uh it's going to take him three weeks two weeks well we were waiting on [1:12:04] you know what yeah it probably within the next week yeah right now if we're [1:12:10] doing it it's it you know we can get it done pretty quickly but now we're [1:12:14] running into the issue we don't have the parts [1:12:16] we put in so many water connections or replace water connections we don't have [1:12:20] the parts and we can't get them I only got four yolks left and I got to order [1:12:23] straw for them yeah and I'm trying to get some more uh we [1:12:28] got 12 in right after I started and then here this past three months we've had a [1:12:33] run we've had to change out before that you [1:12:38] know we had a leak and went to get it it didn't have a backflip around here it [1:12:42] was damaged beyond the so we've changed that at least four just [1:12:47] because what was there was no longer adequate so [1:12:50] if we didn't have that we would have it when I'm trying to acquire some more but [1:12:53] I have 12 on the order over here we did anywhere [1:12:57] now what was your other question well I mean [1:13:01] I know there's nothing to do with it I know [1:13:04] but I I don't understand why in the summer [1:13:09] when it's 80 degrees why is the pool closing five o'clock [1:13:13] that's a family voice because But there again you know like today as hot as it [1:13:20] was right close with you why does the pool not open when school gets out but [1:13:24] they're closer to you well I understand it but it's a heating pool [1:13:29] it's government Gary it's wasted money it's government [1:13:34] okay whatever forget I said anything [1:13:42] okay let's go back around the black holes and finish that conversation and [1:13:46] then I want to go back to the race [1:13:57] so anyway we're going to take the old light poles that are usable we're going [1:14:01] to try to move them in places that make sense [1:14:04] that provide to get more safe another question I have I've had a lot [1:14:09] of requests from task force we used to be a passport office [1:14:14] and we have to [1:14:17] re-up reapply this passport office the because it's easy on our side all we do [1:14:25] is we have some training it's online it doesn't cost us anything to do that it [1:14:29] was time I stay up to two full-time employees available [1:14:33] uh so they have to be full-time employees and then you know they have to [1:14:37] be available that's the only thing right when you're saying with DMV girls well [1:14:41] they could be that it could be McKenzie I mean it doesn't matter who the [1:14:44] employees are but we've had a lot of asks for it uh [1:14:50] apparently Banner Elk we don't know if they do it or not because it's a [1:14:54] question of I guess when you go there and Boone is the only one that's around [1:14:58] here that you can pass [1:15:02] okay so I mean we can pursue this I just want to make sure you just change in [1:15:05] service no we gave it up [1:15:11] yeah I I didn't know if we were doing this I [1:15:13] guess that was a conversation before my time so I'll start that process [1:15:20] what do we need get these lights done [1:15:26] well you guys give me a directive a directive to do it don't get done tell [1:15:33] me where the 147 comes from because the digits you gave me were 273 and [1:15:37] materials and then 180 budgeted yeah [1:15:45] the actual quote for materials is 256.2 Plus [1:15:57] an additional 37 for for the galvanized Breakaway anchor [1:16:03] bolts that's the complete set [1:16:07] and then there's the installation cost which right now we're programming 50 [1:16:13] Grand as a number we don't it can be is it [1:16:19] could be as simple as doing a hundred dollars 150 bucks to do it it could be [1:16:22] as complex as five thousand dollars to install it depends on what we find [1:16:26] underground and how difficult it is to set the [1:16:30] anchor balls and it's not our guys doing it no uh actually we have this contract [1:16:36] that you already agreed to our CED is supplying the parts and which [1:16:41] Consolidated electric and money Grant Construction and he's using limbo River [1:16:47] Electric to do the electrical this will also [1:16:52] at what I don't have price in here are photocells good heavy duty photocells [1:16:59] and timers so that's going to be an extra that's three connection five [1:17:02] thousand Chicken Thousand four thousand eight hundred I think it was [1:17:07] okay the question is how much do you need [1:17:12] so right now we need an additional 224 000. okay [1:17:19] and that we've got that would have to be a new line item what does it mean no no [1:17:22] all I need is for you to direct me to find the money and whatever fund is [1:17:27] available it will give you a next meeting a budget amendment that you can [1:17:31] approve but that'll give me the directions I can [1:17:34] go ahead and get the process started because we can transfer the money [1:17:37] anytime the approval of the budgets you need [1:17:41] these folks to vote on that to tell you to move forward [1:17:45] and we won't hamper the current Services we'll go to one of the funds yeah I was [1:17:50] going to say you'll have to transfer from another [1:17:52] because [1:17:58] the monies have been sitting there for very long time [1:18:02] when I take it from one but the money's there [1:18:06] it's been there for a while correct yes we have contingency funds for both [1:18:11] general fund and employment service and you have to keep someone we have to [1:18:17] keep so much so we won't endanger that we will not endanger that correct [1:18:28] we can easily justify that in the eyes of the auditor so [1:18:33] it's the original taxpayer money Union correct yes yeah we just like say we're [1:18:38] required to keep a percentage of our operating budget [1:18:42] so we we've got well I think we've got 18 or 19 months months without hurting [1:18:47] us I guess my confusion is back when the when the board voted to do the lights it [1:18:52] was just not it was just not funded is that what the problem no he's funded it [1:18:55] but you funded that and the dog park and something else it was like they're all [1:18:59] lumped together in one so when I gave you the current budget that you have I [1:19:03] broke it out put it in a capital line Capital items and I said well it's going [1:19:07] to cost me this much to do the dog park so the rest is going to be for this and [1:19:12] then you have another I think songs what's the other one we do that number [1:19:15] so I took those two out what was left over was was three months [1:19:20] okay [1:19:26] so we had no idea at the time what they were going to cost because nobody got a [1:19:29] cost for it so we've got two hard cause for it and they're roughly equivalent [1:19:35] one was a little bit higher uh and the labor in the directional wind [1:19:40] was buying is direct from the electrical supplies and we're not paying the [1:19:43] contractor of the Service Media yeah CED is going to supply it directly [1:19:49] to us so we don't have it we don't have a middle name and then uh Bragg is going [1:19:54] to supply the labor materials except for the electrical [1:20:01] yeah you thought those figures out one more [1:20:05] time I had to spend it um okay so we are short how much and we need to amend the [1:20:09] budget for how much [1:20:27] so [1:20:32] about 100 [1:20:35] yeah 132. so that boosts up just thought of numbers to 364 [1:20:40] 000. yeah the shortfall of the budget we have a money market account so the [1:20:44] shortfall of the budget once that money market or CD matures that'll cover that [1:20:49] and we'll still have money left over on that side but in the money market budget [1:20:54] right here to see the internet right here [1:20:58] which one's the CD [1:21:02] so that money is already expensive 140 pounds [1:21:12] so you would have to take 130 whatever out of that [1:21:22] that's more than a half a million dollars [1:21:33] yeah we have money for Citizens because we couldn't pass something interest rate [1:21:41] yeah we have to get done with this audit that she's trying to finish up by the [1:21:45] end of next month yeah we just have to have access direct [1:21:51] access to all that record and be able to question so [1:21:56] just I know it's a lot of money it ain't gonna get there too [1:22:07] ultimately we voted to put up new lights everybody wants new lights we're going [1:22:11] to have to spend the money we have 1.3 .37 million dollars the taxpayer money [1:22:15] that we've ported up from the taxpayers I understand we have events we've got to [1:22:20] keep minimums for the state we have to keep that over six months operating [1:22:24] expenses and you have that even if we have like a little over 18 it's not [1:22:29] quite 19. so you so what I'm hearing we've got all the buttons are being [1:22:34] pushed right yes so I'm just patiently awaiting this [1:22:38] at our our trust funds are divided up into basically general fund utility [1:22:43] words the 18 months operating experience with that what's in [1:22:49] it that's the trust funds so so that's in [1:22:53] there too yeah it's in it's in the financial form we [1:22:59] have the two trust funds that that we keep money [1:23:03] and those are our emergency funds but they're quite High [1:23:07] some of that money was siphoned off into a separate count a money market at one [1:23:13] point it became a CD the Bank closed we didn't have records over here the [1:23:18] Bank closed said hey we're closing this Branch you need to get in this account [1:23:22] and we found old records and the bank said oh no no and even they had trouble [1:23:27] finding it because they changed their account [1:23:29] number system so many times it took me how long I mean you were there she was [1:23:33] there all day one day so once we finally got in we just [1:23:36] immediately transferred that money over to First Citizens that because [1:23:41] the CD rate they were paying was killing we couldn't we couldn't say no to it [1:23:46] so we've got a short-term CD on that when that becomes mature we're going to [1:23:50] take that we're going to take part of it and balance the budget and then the [1:23:54] wrestling is going to go back into another investment [1:24:01] so if we can take money from well you got to watch how you doing with this [1:24:06] packet and I'm waiting on lend a massage [Music] [1:24:10] we can take what what we'll end up doing is taking a [1:24:16] little bit of half the money from one trust fund and half the money from the [1:24:19] other customer so you won't really have a noticeable [1:24:22] impact on constructions [1:24:27] Miss Gail where you land you Landing go ahead and close this deal yeah I'll make [1:24:33] a notion that we I don't know how to say it [1:24:37] that we take the money that's existing and make a budget amendment make a [1:24:41] budget amendment to take the money that's needed to give people a [1:24:45] completely find that applies I got a motion do I [1:24:49] have a second [1:24:56] we have a second all those in favor say aye [1:25:01] um [1:25:04] [Laughter] I don't know [1:25:10] because then we're going to turn around and raise taxes that just looks like [1:25:12] magic [1:25:21] yeah we're spending more money yeah [1:25:28] all right [Music] [1:25:39] that's you know you have to look to demographics here in the town again you [1:25:46] have voted for the whites two years ago big guy you got to fund the lights you [1:25:49] got to understand that and you can tell whoever looks as you say anything you [1:25:53] got a whole room in here all bobbinger is they want the lights and something [1:25:56] this whole side of the room is Newland folks okay well that's fine you go down [1:26:01] as a name so what does that mean good luck [1:26:06] the Texas had to shoot up we're in bionomics honey we're we're under a [1:26:11] Democratic president they're going to go up you don't have to shoot them up I [1:26:15] know 1020. they're going well before you did that trust me they're going up [1:26:19] before you didn't they I'll never vote for a Time budget [1:26:23] amendment ASAP let's get this stuff let's get this stuff going well we're [1:26:27] gonna have new board in October when we're doing that December December and [1:26:32] your new world will be sworn in on that meeting [1:26:34] there we go so once we know who the board members [1:26:39] will be we can provide them with any information they need so that when [1:26:42] they're prepared for the meeting all right is anybody else in Council have [1:26:45] any more comments [1:26:50] I need emotions I have some go ahead Grace [1:26:54] I think that truthfully that you that that you know those that [1:27:00] wants these lights that's fine I want to this lives we priced these lights two [1:27:05] three years ago and you know I think what it falls back [1:27:10] to is the ones that was here in charge then not y'all [1:27:14] didn't give I'm not gonna let you get away with that [1:27:16] you priced those lights this year the two quotes that we got are this year [1:27:20] from VPC and Mike Gregg so they went up that much they never went out those were [1:27:24] the original quotes I've just been kicking this [1:27:32] oldest quote is VPC [1:27:36] which is this board [1:27:46] all right that was [1:27:53] issue day April 18th so that was the first quote we got the [1:27:58] first quote I got and we approved that much in the budget no no we didn't put [1:28:02] that much in the budget you approved certain amount of money for the dog park [1:28:07] and yeah the lights and something else I just can't figure out [1:28:11] their but their money so you know it was 674 000 [1:28:17] that included the labor or any other issues that we might run into [1:28:22] so it might be why we're not going with them well so you you have just the [1:28:26] materials only their materials were 170 000 more okay than the CED materials but [1:28:33] that don't stop my initial question why wasn't the total price within the budget [1:28:38] Community well that's I mean that's up to you so when I did the budget I had a [1:28:42] number and that number was for the dog park the signs and the street lights so [1:28:49] I knew I only knew the dog park how much it cost because I had a had a estimate [1:28:54] and the streets that there's new signs that entry signs I had an estimate so I [1:28:59] had those two that's all I had and what was left over [1:29:04] is what I put in the budget I bumped it a little bit but I was [1:29:09] already running a budget with a deficit to begin with so I was I was constrained [1:29:14] at that point when we started this conversation when I became mayor we all [1:29:18] just to guess it's going to cost about five thousand dollars per lay okay we [1:29:22] have 68 likes yeah actually 67 right okay it's 350 000 that's what we talked [1:29:28] about when I became mayor 18 months ago yeah I don't know why right now that all [1:29:33] these numbers are shock well they're not a shock I'm just [1:29:36] wondering why don't weren't putting the initial budget that's what I'm finding [1:29:39] out you know the budget could everybody passed and you know again he was one of [1:29:45] doing a face he was going to do it and then let's get the lamp post set and [1:29:49] then lights later and step by step okay we're not doing that anymore we're [1:29:54] changing that we're going to do it you've changed that just [1:29:59] so what we'll end up doing because this process would take four years and that [1:30:04] number we've had at 54 because that's the estimate labor cost [1:30:09] so we've added 50 000 for the estimated labor costs how long do you think before [1:30:13] we start seeing lights go up ballpark I have to order they said they're six [1:30:16] weeks out for the polls and also think about Christmas we'll see some lights [1:30:20] coming up yeah bam that's what I'm talking about [1:30:24] so and that's the other things with VPC the polls were like months out [1:30:29] so here we've got a little over a month out now [1:30:33] thank you Gail and Lauren okay I have a motion to adjourn this [1:30:47] thank you once again [1:30:53] I have a motion to adjourn do I have a second I'll save you all those in favor