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Calling the meeting of June 12th, New Hampshire, New, New Markets Conservation Commission meeting

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to order. Let's start with the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Thank you. And I did hear from Jess Kahn as

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well as Zach Angelini.

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Brian Morris. Here. Julie Tyson. You still say Tyson? Yeah, here.

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Chris Blackstone. I'm here.

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Jeff's here. And Emma, our student rep. Here. She's here.

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All right, and I do want to point out that Bridget, who has been taking notes for us from the Planner Office, is not here tonight.

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I'm home, and I want to put it out there that Bart has said he's going to put an ad together to look for.

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So let's let somebody to do the job of note-taking.

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So if anybody here or anybody who sees this tape later, imagine somebody might like that.

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It is a paid position, and I also wanted to point out that the minutes don't have to be taken and printed in the way that they have been.

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that it can revert to a narrative style, a bullet style,

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or any other style, if people are concerned

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about the format that looks formal or foreboding

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to take notes in as they are now.

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So we're rooting for Bart's ad to net somebody.

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In the meantime, Bridget will be doing it occasionally

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from home or from this office,

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but it's to be determined between Bridget and Bart

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where she is and when she's doing it.

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Do we have any public comments?

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approval.

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I found three things. Did anybody else find anything? Or should I list the three I got?

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Okay, they are probably grammatically typo in nature. On the item that talks about the UNH

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capstone, line two. There's too many that's locations outside of that that were identified.

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so locations outside of that which were identified.

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Then there's another one under events outreach and education, line 9.

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There was some other junk items that were found on the conservation land.

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There were some other items, or there were some other junk items,

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but the was needs to be a were.

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And at the very bottom, another one is technical or a small ish,

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but mill space should be capitalized.

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Those are the three corrections I found.

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Anybody else?

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I don't need to mention or talk about it or whatever it is.

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Don't you accept as amended?

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Is there a second?

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Do they accept as amended?

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I'll second.

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Thank you, Julie.

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All in favor.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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That's past these minutes are good with those corrections.

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Okay, correspondence for the commission's consideration tonight.

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We have two things that came in as correspondence and both of them actually, because we have a quorum now,

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we could do some take action on these.

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This is from a Susan, I'm sorry, Susan if you're listening, Jeanette or Guionet, G-I-O-N-E-T.

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I'm not sure how she pronounces it. I'm sorry. Good morning, Chris. I hope you're doing well

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I came across this beautiful lady laying more eggs on Lady Slipper Drive and she includes for the record

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nice turtle picture

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One of the residents there said she's been doing this for over 20 years. This is very cool

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Unfortunately, many of her babies don't make it across because the cars would squish them

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Is it possible to put the turtle crossing lines and a turtle crossing sign there?

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I will see you at the next book club meeting, Susan.

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So she is part of the library club talk that we have.

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So I'm wondering, I think putting the lines there is a bit more extensive than what we can do or offer.

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I'm not sure that's the right tactic to move forward with her suggestion.

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But I would like us to further the discussion or take action, suggest action, on putting a turtle crossing sign, the ones that have the hinges that flip up there.

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Since getting this, it seems like I've seen three more that I wasn't aware of before. Namely, close to the Alice Drive, there's one, there's a few in town.

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So maybe, Jeff, do you remember anything historically about who bought them?

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I'm assuming they're always installed by DPW.

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So DPW installs and takes them down every year.

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Takes them down or flips them up and down?

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From our experience, they take them down and don't do the flip.

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Oh, okay.

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I know a couple of had hinges installed by the canister after.

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I think someone cut them down and put some piano hinges on them.

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New Hampshire Fish and Game gave us some of them and we purchased some.

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We Conservation Commission purchased some.

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Yes, the Conservation Commission purchased some.

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Ellen had reached out to myself and Drew and I know that if I have some ancient emails.

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Well, this is the sign here.

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They cost about $28 a piece and I didn't want to say there's one on Grant on my side

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that is not hinged and I don't remember it being up there so they do take them

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up and down. Yeah, they do, they do actually, that's why it's like called DPW, and there's

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a, there's one on Ash Swamp up by the golf course. That's like the one with the people

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say the cute turtles, you know, like there's like a baby turtle. And so like people love

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that one, but so everyone's surprised they didn't get stolen, but so they, that's,

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you know, called Rick in April and saying, can you put the signs up? But lately I

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think they've been doing it without prompt. Yeah, he said they put them up in May

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take them down in November. That's appropriate. We decide the hinged ones

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were kind of funky because when they fold down they're super bright so people

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see that glaring triangle at night. Yeah. Kind of funky outside of the road. And it cuts the

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turtle in half. Yeah it does. It puts the line through the turtle. Exactly. And you

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can't put the hinge on the backside because the purse is there. So the hinge has to be on the front side. Quickly, this letter, where was she said that? Where was this?

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Lady's Slipper Drive, yes, yeah, which is the big wetland. I mean it goes down. I assume it's where it severs for the big

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Wetland.

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It's probably not a bad spot. So you need two per site. Right, they're coming in the going.

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It should be a really low speed area already. I know. Not saying that makes people miss the

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because I'm just saying like the,

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I don't know that striping would be.

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Yeah, I don't think we're doing striping anywhere else

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besides the swath at this point.

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What I understand of it is the whole theory behind it

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is as long as it's like rare that have the striping,

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people will slow down, but it's like everywhere people like.

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You get immune to the striping.

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Yeah, yeah, that, so yeah, I don't think we're,

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I think a sign would probably be fine,

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but I don't think we're gonna do more striping, so.

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I also feel that if we go ahead and say yes

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and do whatever we do have whatever discussion leads to a culminating event

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here we have the capacity to do something we don't have the capacity to

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say oh yes and we want me and striping but we could take action I believe and

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get some signs up and running pretty easily and pretty quickly since we're

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burning into the season of the Turtles crossing the road anyway but um do

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you think he didn't solve them for us yeah he's I think he would I just

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I just don't know if we have to buy the posts as well.

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We do.

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Did you guys buy the posts?

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They have a lot of posts.

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I can't remember.

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They have a lot of posts where they have the right size.

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I think they would install it for us.

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So we bought the signs.

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Yeah, they installed them last time for us.

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I just don't want to speak for the second.

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I think they would.

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So what I'm hearing is interface with REC as DPW to find out if they have posts

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And then who actually goes and buys the actual sign?

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What are we actually asking for?

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Or do we have money to say, we, as we've done in the past, there's a president there,

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the conservation commission, bought the signs?

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Yeah, I think we buy the signs.

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I think we buy the signs and they install them.

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Yeah, we definitely bought them last time as I remember bringing them over to DPW.

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Oh, that's nice.

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Handing them direct.

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Nice.

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So, you know, something.

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Nice.

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They're probably shipping, so.

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Are those the bigger ones?

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I think those are 18 inches. Is that how big they are? 18 inches?

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I think the one over by the golf course might be 18 inches.

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But I think the other ones might be bigger than that.

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I mean 18 inches is only that big.

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I guess it depends on what you're driving and how far...

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On that little road, that's such a slow little... I think the small ones would be adequate.

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It's not like people are going 40 like they are on a swamp road.

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And the question is, do you need one or two, because it's a dead end, right?

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It's not through road, what we're talking about. People are living there, are they going down?

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Seeing it and coming back to me.

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Do they need to sign both ways, yeah.

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I would think that's a good policy to keep in place without having to do traffic pattern studies and whatnot.

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It reminds people.

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It's short money.

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You might try putting up a sign that says baby turtle crossing, that would probably slow you down.

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You think people like the baby turtle one better?

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I mean, people have commented on the baby one the name.

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Maybe they'll see it, like, people do like baby one.

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They'll be like, oh, that's so cute.

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What was that noise?

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They're going to swerve and hit a turtle, they're probably going to swerve and hit

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no matter what age.

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Okay, true confession.

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I see something in the road.

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Oh, my god, a turtle.

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I got to say one.

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Now, here's my second one.

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I'm kind of amped. I'm pretty excited. I'm acting real cool flashers pull over to get it. I walk up and as I approach it

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it is a

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Leather garden glove. You know how they get kind of stiff and sweaty and there's this garden glove and it's got yeah

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It's got a neck sticking out

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Gotcha, uh-huh. So yeah, I break for garden gloves

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Definitely not some people moving turtles, young guy, and traffic disaster, and people

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waving and yelling to each other, I got it, I got it.

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It's paying, it's paying.

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So should we, given that they're shipping and handling whatever, is it prudent to say,

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okay, we're going to address Lady Slipper and then get another set in the bank in

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case we have another, something comes to mind and we're going to hold one up?

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Because my suspicion is a happy one.

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I believe that somebody from Ladies Livers is going to stay.

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We just got our turtle crossing sign and that's going to be somebody else says my neighborhood needs one too.

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So having in one and on the bench as we say I think could be handy and short-lining.

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Do you know how many sets you put up? I can't remember how many there are out there.

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Four.

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I just want Grant Road.

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Bay Road.

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Bay Road.

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Are you calling Grant Road the corner by Alice?

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Yes.

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Seven signs up and count to the third, unashamed by the golf course.

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Is there just one there on one way?

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There's just one.

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Can we get one?

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Going the other way?

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There's not one going the other way.

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So we might need one more for that?

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That one is weird though, because it's...

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The reason we asked to have that one put up is because there wasn't landings that was hit.

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It was way up there by the golf course.

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And we actually found a, what do you call it, box throw up there.

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And I've helped to paint it out there too, so they got it.

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Yes, I had painted there too.

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And then they're almost present all along through there.

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Because there's wetlands here and there on the either side of the road.

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It's actually an enormous black tuba over there.

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Near the long dirt road and the south side of the road.

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Yes, he's visited my house before.

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What's that?

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He's visited my house before.

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Oh, the turtle?

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Yes.

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I live right there, so there are always my backyards.

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I have a huge hill in the background.

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It's all wetlands right behind me.

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Oh, give us a picture, Emma.

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Give us a picture, identify anything about your house,

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but just collecting some turtle picks could be fun.

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You're probably going to believe it.

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Brought to you by our student representative.

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Look at your PR for your high school,

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for you representing us.

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Yeah, so I don't know, because it's almost like that.

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The one by the end of the golf course

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is like a precursor to the next set.

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Yeah, yeah, sure.

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But it is about six-tenths of a mile in a year,

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a little less.

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It's about a half mile, maybe, from the one

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top hill before you go down.

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Well, what do we think?

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I thought there was two more in Ashwamp.

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Are there some down past the town?

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There might be.

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I think there are two at that crossing.

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So what if we get by four more?

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Say we have a couple extra.

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I would say five, so you can put one where you know you only

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have one going one direction.

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Well, I think you're saying we probably

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don't need another one, because there's.

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I mean, I don't know.

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I mean, you could.

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It's between that sign and the one that faces east

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by the golf course, and the next one

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that would have warned someone that's Hedities, one that faces west. That's probably three-quarters

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of them though, but it's like just past like. Well, maybe it would get them to slow down

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in place. Yeah, it would have hurt. So five. And we're not sure the size though, but $200

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should be sufficient, right? The five signs? Well, 30, 60. 25 each. Yeah, just in case

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are shipping and then if they're going to be your one you honestly say up to

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because that way yeah come back but I can order them once I know it's good to

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put them up so I do we want to approve money for posts just in case or do we

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assume the townhouse posts and hardware they don't need posts yeah those

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those posts are hard to find they're expensive those yeah those ones they're

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hard to find the ones they use and I think they want to use the ones they

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like to put up.

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Well, we can still order the signs, and if we have to come back next month and order the

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post, there you go.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And if DBW says we installed them, there are 25 bucks each, give us.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if they can do that.

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There you go.

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So do we have a motion since it's spending money to approve 200, well, a motion to

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buy turtle signs?

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I'll make a motion to buy turtle signs up to $200.

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Second?

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Second.

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Okay.

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Motion by Julie.

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second by Ellen. Any other discussion about the turtle signs ordering five of our

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two hundred dollars. Okay all in favor. Aye. That's unanimous. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you Susan. I will give an email to Susan. Do we still have a line item for

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supplies in the town budget? We do. We've used it but we're also we're going

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out. I think we've missed the deadline to submit any expenditures. Yeah, they're

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here close to the 30th. But we could take them out next year, specifically.

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We often had line items that we didn't expand. Yeah, we didn't expand a lot of

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us part-time salary. We've already been shifting. We've been taken from

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different plots. So we could take them from next year.

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Well, we wouldn't

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get reimbursed, I wouldn't get reimbursed till July, so we'd come out of the next year's budget so we could take it from the supply line out of the next year's budget.

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Yeah.

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It's just a thought.

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A case of different, a set of different under the conservation fund that we didn't have to.

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Yeah.

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You may have to to buy some supplies if you want to.

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Can we use turtle fest money?

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Absolutely.

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I mean that's in our conservation fund, so.

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Okay.

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But that's a good, you know, to get back to our sponsors and say, hey, we bought four more turtle signs.

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Sure.

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All right.

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Five turtle signs.

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All right.

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Second correspondence that I believe we can also have some discussion and perhaps take

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some action tonight comes from Lizzie Francescini.

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I'll read it as I received it for the record.

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Good morning, Chris.

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I'm reaching out to the New Market Conservation Commission to see if the commission would

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provide a $275 scholarship for one new market child to attend Camp Atlas at SELT.

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This year at Camp Atlas we are providing more scholarships than before.

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14 of our 40 campers will be here on scholarship including three full scholarships.

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We're thrilled to provide this opportunity but we're also thinking creatively about how to fill the budget gap

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creating by such a large scholarship need.

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Camp Atlas is unique in that it offers high quality outdoor adventure programming

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at price points that are accessible to all members of our community.

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We offer tiered pricing with a week of camp costing anywhere from $0 to $350 depending on family income.

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Camp Atlas gives the magic of camp to children who otherwise would not be able to afford it.

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We introduce these children to new outdoor adventure experiences with the end goal of helping them fall in love with the outdoors

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so they grow up to be the next generation of conservationists.

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Last summer, 88% of our campers got to try a new outdoor activity including kayaking,

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picnic-ing at Newmarket's own sliding rock conservation area.

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We have several children from Newmarket attending camp, including one who will need a $275 scholarship.

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With a non-profit sponsorship to provide this needed scholarship,

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Newmarket Conservation Commission logo could appear on our camp shirt and on our camp website.

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Additionally, the Newmarket Conservation Commission will be included in camp atlas, media, and posts and articles.

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I'd be happy to connect with you or other members of the commission to answer any questions

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you might have about providing such a scholarship.

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Thank you so much for considering.

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She signs it warmly.

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Lizzie.

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So I let her know I would read this into the record and that we would talk about it

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tonight.

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I thought her description was thorough enough that we didn't need more description from

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her.

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She's got that number of kids involved, the amount of money involved, the fact

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that it's sliding scale, but with $275 a new market child would be able to

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attend this camp and get these experiences offered through CELT. I would

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also point out that Lizzie is a certified, has been a certified teacher

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working with various grade levels and she currently serves in CELT as the

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outdoor education specialist. So she's quite used to leading Friday walks with

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with caregivers and little kids and she does programming for older age

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children and students and whatnot. So I think we'd be in good hands offering

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$275 for a camp scholarship. Discussion, questions.

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And if you're wondering, the only reason this is,

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this is what I read and these are the two printouts that did not work, but I just kept them all

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together just because I did. Yeah, I mean their camp is highly respected and they're a good

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partner of ours, so it seems like a good worthy cause. I know we've moved away from

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scholarships before, but this seems sort of in line with our mission.

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Yeah, this reels the scholarship money right back to what some of our goals

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are as a conservation group. I was also thought it was quite

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gracious that they said that they could include the word new market conservation on their

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broadcast media, social media, and on the t-shirt. So,

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any other discussion, do I have a motion or any other ideas about offering

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the $275 to sell for

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at Camp Atlas. I'll make a motion to approve that funding from the Conservation Fund, $275

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for the camp. Thank you, Ellen. In any second for Ellen's motion.

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I'll second it. Okay.

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Thank you, Julie. Julie seconds the motion. Any further discussion about $275 to Camp

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Atlas scholarship?

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All in favor. All right. That's unanimous and I will send Lizzie

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an email letting her know that we voted on it and could do it, voted on it tonight

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and she can count on that.

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Ellen's treasurer can do the interface

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to figure out how to actually get them said money.

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Thank you, Ellen.

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Okay, the next thing here, how about calling on Ellen

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for your treasurer's report?

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay, so the conservation fund has $134,401.92.

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Christiana's fund still has $4,621.11,

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So the total is $139,023.03.

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Okay, so in May we got interest as usual.

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No additional current use.

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We, let's see.

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We sold t-shirts in April, but we sold in May.

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Turtle Fest t-shirts were $2,319.

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dollars. And we got the grant payment from the Great Bay Resource, the Great Bay Resource

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particular, I can't remember what it's called. Gosh, my head is... Anyway, the grant for

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the Boardwalk, part of the Wigan Farm Boardwalk, they paid for, gave us $3,520. So we got

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that.

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Let's see, what else? Then we go on to, we have some, so just to remind,

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We still have some approved things, you know, we have 137,000 but we have 13,000 that is allocated to the Mitchell project

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Which is probably going to close early fall

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We did commit 5,000 of seed money to the Ashwam brode project

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I think we still have the outstanding John Herman bill. We haven't paid for his t-shirt design

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And he's aware that the year closes June 30

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that needs to be fee and cariler fast-tracking that.

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And then we approved $15,480 for the Rosa project.

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So those are things that we've approved to be spent.

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And then we have some new requests.

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We've already talked about two

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and we'll talk about the others, I think, not yet,

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or yeah, a little bit later in the agenda.

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I have yours all kind of bundled together.

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Okay.

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We're talking about L-ship,

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I mean, Land and Water Conservation.

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We can do the...

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Well, what makes sense?

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I've got you for land and water conservation.

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What's in the Turtle Fest report?

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Okay, the Turtle Fest report.

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So I had sent out a memo, but the T-shirt sales, total T-shirt sales were $2,859 for

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Turtle Fest, and the local business sponsors was $1,750, so we raised $4,609 from Turtle

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and our expenses totaled $1,766.96.

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So our net income was $2,842.04.

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And in the memo, in the Stone Church raised $1,342 for New Hampshire total rescue.

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So that's pretty cool.

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And we were going to make a donation to New Hampshire total rescue

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because they did two programs, essentially two programs.

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one at the library, one at TurtleFest itself.

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And so I thought, I know there was a call of $2,000

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for New Hampshire Turtle Rescue.

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So if we gave $658 from our net income

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to New Hampshire Turtle Rescue,

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I thought that would be a nice donation to them.

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Do we want to do that first

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or go through the rest of the TurtleFest stuff?

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Do all the three suggestions.

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So we also had put actually this

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under the TurtleFest net income

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because they do do a lot of wetlands education and so forth at the self-camp.

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So we've got that kind of fit.

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And then the library is great for them and they have these nature kits,

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backpacks that go out with the kids.

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And so we brainstorm with them about getting some binoculars and bird information for there

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and they have the backpacks.

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And so those would go into that because we're trying to generate more interest

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and we have a lot of people getting interested in birds and so forth.

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So, we thought those would be nice ways to spend some of the net income from the National

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Turtle Fest.

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So, we estimated, is that $550 still sound nice to you Chris, would you look at that?

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Static, not stagnant.

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Yeah.

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So, those were the two, besides the Camp Scholarship we've already approved.

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And that would still leave, if we did those three things, that would still leave

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over $1,300 in net income from Turtle Fest.

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so we can save that for buying the turtle signs and getting things underway for next year.

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And then, are you interested in wearing more T-shirts?

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Yes. In fact, they know the breakdown of –

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Lampery River knows the breakdown of the sizes that we'd like.

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They're just waiting to say, yes, we'd like to get two dozen more,

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which the Turtle Best Planning Committee had talked about.

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There's already eight that were requested.

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And they are, we didn't have those sizes anymore.

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So with eight requested, we'd have a few on hand

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after the eight requests that are fulfilled.

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Yeah, so even though the event's over,

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there seems to be a pretty strong interest

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in getting a t-shirt.

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I think we probably can still sell them,

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at least make our money back from printing a t-shirt.

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Well, yeah, eight would make the money back

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and the rest would be great,

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we can hold two dozen.

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So we can back up and maybe one at a time

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if your thoughts about the $658 donation

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a motion to put $658 toward New Hampshire Turtle Rescue?

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I'll make a motion.

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Second.

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Second.

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Okay.

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Discussion.

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Voting.

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All in favor.

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All right.

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That's unanimous.

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So you'll interface with Carol how to get that donation to them all?

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All right.

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The Camp Atlas Scholarship we did already.

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And again, I'll.

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But Lizzie know that we voted on it and Ellen can figure out with Carol how to get that to Lizzie and purchase of binoculars.

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This really fits with the library. They have a telescope, so they need binoculars.

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So it kind of fits with their slowly plotting away at the library of things, a punch to things.

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So do I have a motion to spend $550 for two pair of binoculars and maybe another couple of bird ID type things?

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I would make a motion to buy binoculars or spend $550 to get binoculars and maybe a few bird ID things.

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Two pair of binoculars.

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Two pair.

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Would like a nice binoculars.

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Yes.

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Eight by 42.

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That's the key part right now.

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I'll second.

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Any more discussion about this?

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Are you taking care of that purchase?

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I could.

477
00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:53,680
If you want me to.

478
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:54,520
If you want me to, I can't.

479
00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:55,080
I don't want to do it.

480
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,720
So it's in your camp.

481
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,840
I can't wait.

482
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:01,140
Yes.

483
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,100
And I'll figure out how to interface with Carol again

484
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,280
to get that bought and paid for.

485
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,420
Thanks for the opportunity.

486
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,580
I think it's really important.

487
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,260
And I don't think it will fit with adults and kids

488
00:31:12,260 --> 00:31:14,180
and families and all kind of people getting them out.

489
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,260
Is that a backpack like you can rent from the library?

490
00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:18,340
Yes and no.

491
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:20,120
They've got a bunch of backpacks

492
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,880
that they do, they call them nature packs.

493
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:23,420
They have all kind of things in them.

494
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,460
thematic stories of crafts and whatnot.

495
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,780
So they have the backpacks.

496
00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:31,240
We were interested in getting the binoculars

497
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,900
and the ID material, and they're gonna do with them

498
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:35,740
what they do with them.

499
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Okay, yeah.

500
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,060
But yeah, the kids can check them out.

501
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,220
There's no cost to checking them out.

502
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:41,180
No, there's no cost at all.

503
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,940
I do believe it's gonna fit,

504
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,600
like I shouldn't speak the library,

505
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,520
but a student card holder,

506
00:31:49,660 --> 00:31:51,480
there's probably an age limit to go check them out.

507
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,300
a student under a certain age can't just go get the telescope.

508
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,400
I doubt that a student could just go get the binoculars,

509
00:31:57,660 --> 00:32:01,560
but I don't know that for a fact, but I'd rather doubt it due to the cost of it.

510
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:03,720
I assume adults too, Karen.

511
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,460
Not just your library card, you just go check them out.

512
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:09,040
I'm thinking like, you know, we have a bird walk in the future.

513
00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:12,160
Oh, you don't have a pair of binoculars stopped by the library beforehand

514
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,440
and they have a couple you can borrow.

515
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,620
And you also could go so far as to say you know the bird walk,

516
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:20,580
the walk is, you know, September 20th.

517
00:32:20,580 --> 00:32:25,980
Let the library know that if somebody wants to be 18th, please have them bring it back

518
00:32:25,980 --> 00:32:28,480
overnight because you're anticipating a birdwalk.

519
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:31,640
They're not going to hold them for a week for something that's September 20th.

520
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:35,500
But in the back of their head, they could know, don't rent up the 19th if you can't

521
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:37,520
get it back to us in time for this underdate.

522
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:37,880
Yeah.

523
00:32:39,220 --> 00:32:39,420
Cool.

524
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,420
Okay.

525
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,000
So we had a discussion.

526
00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:43,960
Now we voted on it.

527
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:44,700
Yes.

528
00:32:44,860 --> 00:32:45,580
Haven't voted on it yet.

529
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,820
All in favor to spend this $550 toward binoculars and bird info.

530
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:57,880
that's unanimous thank you okay that leaves the balance of the funds as she

531
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:04,120
said for oh t-shirt printing we should vote on that that pricing is going to be

532
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:10,440
I don't have the exact number if it's 24 it was roughly 10 age I would just say

533
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,560
it was essentially passed through money yeah you're gonna we're gonna permission

534
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Second order of 2,000 shirts from Lamprey River.

535
00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:22,440
So I'd make a motion to order 2,000 more turtle fest shirts

536
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,580
to be sold. Got you.

537
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,420
Second for that motion. Second.

538
00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:31,540
Discussion. Jeff.

539
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800
I don't think so because we've already bought shirts there.

540
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,360
You just said 2,000 to save for the purchase of 2,000.

541
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,980
That sounds good.

542
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:47,820
Is that clarified?

543
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:48,540
Is that good?

544
00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:51,920
I just want to make sure we don't have to put a mattress.

545
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Yeah, right.

546
00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:56,480
And these are not the Golden May t-shirts.

547
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,880
These will be the Kiwi Green, just like a reorder of our existing order.

548
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,360
Okay, all in favor.

549
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,920
That's unanimous.

550
00:34:07,060 --> 00:34:07,360
Thank you.

551
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,780
All right.

552
00:34:09,700 --> 00:34:10,220
Yeah.

553
00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:11,680
Yeah.

554
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:24,280
busy more than we come to staying with Ellen the next one I had up for you is I

555
00:34:26,780 --> 00:34:33,820
guess either the the new budget memo the three proposed you want to just go

556
00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:36,760
through that like master plan and the committee reports and then do that stuff

557
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,720
later you want to do all three of those later yeah because that's under

558
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:42,020
or treasurer's updates down below.

559
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:42,680
Okay.

560
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,180
Master plan, any development there, Ellen?

561
00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:48,640
Another work on the recreation chapter,

562
00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:53,040
planning board, you can talk about it

563
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,380
because I'm going to put the planning board.

564
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:56,800
So yeah, we didn't meet this month or the next month.

565
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,780
I think the recreation chapter and my new chapter

566
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:00,680
will be on the agenda.

567
00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:01,900
Gotcha.

568
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,740
I can well imagine that the rec department

569
00:35:04,740 --> 00:35:07,140
was rec-connected and getting ready for summer camp.

570
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,500
There's probably out straight.

571
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:11,600
and I hope this is the next thing to perpetuate to the top there.

572
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:14,720
The other good thing is that Bart reached out to actually Drew Keyfaber.

573
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,800
Oh, good.

574
00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:16,380
And Lizzie.

575
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,200
Excuse me.

576
00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:22,680
Actually, I suggested them because to get a little broader perspective on recreation

577
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920
because we know it's more than...

578
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,080
Yeah.

579
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:26,880
...the active sports stuff.

580
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:29,620
Good.

581
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,500
That'll be some really nice input there.

582
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:31,820
Yeah, yeah.

583
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,220
We talked about trails.

584
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:33,920
Yeah.

585
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:34,660
Thrilling.

586
00:35:36,020 --> 00:35:36,640
All right.

587
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,460
Committee reports.

588
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,180
Brian, town council.

589
00:35:40,380 --> 00:35:49,920
Council met on the 4th. The thing I think would be of interest is that the library feasibility study was passed, so they're looking to try and expand their space.

590
00:35:50,240 --> 00:36:01,160
They have some constraints and they're just going to be taking some money to take 35K out of their library capital reserve fund, hire some people to come look at ways they can add more room to this space.

591
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,760
space.

592
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:07,300
The 300th committee met yesterday.

593
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,140
Let's see, there's nothing really incoming up at

594
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:23,120
the moment. We are, yeah, nothing really applies to this, but we did put $500 in for those library

595
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:30,160
murals, but they, since those aren't happening anymore, that just came back. And on the

596
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,160
18th of the next town council there will be the broadside project where a

597
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,720
declaration by Wentworth Shazwell about the founding of the town will be

598
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:46,600
presented to town council. John Herman was behind that and if anyone wants to

599
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:53,700
come and watch that is on the 18th and yeah that was it. It's pretty

600
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:57,840
light in the summer. Thank you and I do want to thank Brian because at the

601
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,360
last meeting I had asked him to find out about the budget cycle, what when did we

602
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,240
have to do what where and when by when and I would really ask you now if you

603
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:12,580
know that you cannot make our July meeting to let us know now so we can

604
00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:15,960
really make sure we talk to each other and ensure a quorum for the July

605
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,160
meeting because that's when we really should approve the budget if we want

606
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,860
to take a summer hiatus and not meet in August because Bart will need

607
00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:31,660
this by September 11th, and our meeting is the 15th, and that's just cutting things.

608
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,800
He needs about the 15th, our meeting is the 11th, and that's cutting it way too close.

609
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,500
So we should get this approved in July so that he has it, and you know you won't be here.

610
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:49,260
So in another scenario, if enough of us know we can't do the July meeting, we could find

611
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:57,840
another time in August to meet based on people's August schedules but maybe Jeff

612
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,640
might be the only one who knows he can't be here in July we'll figure that out

613
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,900
but keep it in the back of your head that it will be an important meeting for

614
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,960
the budget and as well I was going to mention it later on but we will have

615
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,380
a guest speaker who it should be very exciting talking about an initiative

616
00:38:14,380 --> 00:38:18,800
that affects the whole sea coast, so, okay, there's that.

617
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:21,060
Next, Ellen, still on you.

618
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,960
No, planning board, overdue.

619
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,160
Oh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, yeah, okay, sorry.

620
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,140
Mayor, have it here.

621
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,960
Okay, Jeff, sorry, planning board.

622
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,840
We met Tuesday of this week and we had a,

623
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:36,780
like, I left my packet in my car actually,

624
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,480
which had my notes on it.

625
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:41,920
We had a special meeting prior to our normal business

626
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,580
meeting to discuss the environment

627
00:38:43,580 --> 00:38:48,720
energy chapter of the, that's what I recall, if it's just the energy chapter, if it's the environment.

628
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,000
I think it's the environment.

629
00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:56,080
Yeah, environment energy chapter of the master plan. Spent an hour discussing that.

630
00:38:56,940 --> 00:39:02,200
I believe he's the chair, Joe. Spoke to us a little bit about it.

631
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:10,380
We discussed it. There weren't a lot of changes to it that we discussed making, really, at all.

632
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,500
This is not really, we didn't move it on to so where they're,

633
00:39:17,580 --> 00:39:21,180
Bart's going to accept comments or email for any changes.

634
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:28,920
But for as we only reviewed content and everybody was pretty happy with the content of it.

635
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:37,580
I was based on the, it was very energy centric, it was purely energy centric.

636
00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:43,420
There was no environment, besides the impacts of using various types of energy that wasn't

637
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:49,160
that much about the environment and waste, which is something I know that that committee

638
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,520
focuses on.

639
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,800
So, I mean, that was like my biggest comment was like, I don't see anything about recycling,

640
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,340
composting, that sort of thing, but Bart said that's mostly typical care of in another

641
00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:04,820
chapter anyway.

642
00:40:05,780 --> 00:40:09,480
So I don't know if you guys had input on that other chapter.

643
00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:13,700
I do remember just that part said it's in another chapter.

644
00:40:13,860 --> 00:40:17,400
That's what Lindsey would keep telling us at our meetings when I was on energy and environment

645
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,700
and we wanted to tackle trash.

646
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,900
She said that's handled in facilities.

647
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:35,990
Yeah, so I don't have a lot to report on that besides that.

648
00:40:36,750 --> 00:40:44,250
There may be more comments, but nothing was substance as they've spoken about at the meeting that would probably change it.

649
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:52,150
There was a little bit of discussion that there's some tables in there about EV vehicles that don't make a lot of sense.

650
00:40:53,730 --> 00:41:02,610
And like to present to the general public as the numbers were kind of seemingly based on not scientific really.

651
00:41:02,610 --> 00:41:05,010
because it's like, we think there's about this many.

652
00:41:05,490 --> 00:41:07,330
So we're like, do we want to present that to people?

653
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:09,710
I think there's that many, because we don't really know.

654
00:41:10,210 --> 00:41:11,830
There's some strange anomaly in the numbers,

655
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:13,610
so I think that was one of the bigger suggestions

656
00:41:13,610 --> 00:41:15,350
to maybe remove that.

657
00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:19,010
And some statistics are addressed in appendices

658
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:21,450
that maybe they shouldn't bog down the dialogue

659
00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:22,950
and all that they're talking about,

660
00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:25,830
but it was nothing like, what are they talking about?

661
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:26,750
You know, it all made sense.

662
00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:30,810
The big thing that would be of interest to the commission

663
00:41:30,810 --> 00:41:34,430
that we did discuss and again I don't have my notes are outside so I don't know

664
00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:39,970
the address of the property but the property on North Main Street adjacent

665
00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:45,890
to Shotmyre Park that had some septic issues. That landowner was there to

666
00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:52,670
present the plan of the solution to the problem and after much discussion we

667
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:56,190
ended up conditionally approving it. There's a few things that they didn't

668
00:41:56,190 --> 00:42:00,430
really talk about. There is a minor wetland impact I believe it's

669
00:42:00,430 --> 00:42:04,210
like 78 or 79 square feet of wetland buffer,

670
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:09,090
25 foot buffer from all poorly drained wetland

671
00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:13,050
is gonna be impacted by,

672
00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:15,050
there's like a, on the adjacent,

673
00:42:15,290 --> 00:42:17,150
their solution, I don't know if the commission's interested,

674
00:42:17,290 --> 00:42:18,590
I don't have to go on or I can.

675
00:42:19,090 --> 00:42:22,170
I know that the leak, and I went by there the other day

676
00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:23,330
and Kayak and I could smell,

677
00:42:24,110 --> 00:42:26,690
on the river I could smell it.

678
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:28,370
So I don't know if folks are interested,

679
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:30,210
I could kind of explain a little bit about it

680
00:42:30,210 --> 00:42:31,610
I don't have to get too into it.

681
00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:34,370
Basically, he has to hook up to Town Stewart, right?

682
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:40,930
Yeah, and it's not the ideal way to do it at the view of the board,

683
00:42:40,990 --> 00:42:45,050
but it's a solution to a problem, and it can happen pretty quickly.

684
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:49,790
And so, you know, that was my perspective on it.

685
00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:53,070
You know, it's not the best, but hey, it gets this thing done now.

686
00:42:53,490 --> 00:42:55,770
You know, it's not going to take six more months to get through.

687
00:42:55,770 --> 00:42:59,530
So for a minute there, I thought for sure it had to come to the Conservation Commission

688
00:42:59,530 --> 00:43:01,350
for review because of the wetland buffer impact.

689
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:05,910
But the wetland buffer impact was not over 12,000 square feet.

690
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:12,150
But then I said, well, it's within 150 feet of the Lamprey River, but it actually has

691
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:16,850
to meet some of the criteria to then repush the floor to the commission, like it has

692
00:43:16,850 --> 00:43:19,150
to be still over 12,000 square feet.

693
00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:24,790
So I thought that was kind of astonishing, like you can disturb or put it so sorry

694
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:29,570
that 12,000 square foot is for utilities and driveways, and I thought it was kind of astonishing

695
00:43:29,570 --> 00:43:36,210
that you could impact a quarter of an acre of wetland buffer without input from the conservation

696
00:43:36,590 --> 00:43:44,630
commission, you know, rate adjacent to like a major water body, even, or so I think that

697
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:49,550
there's multiple deficiencies kind of in the wetland ordinance that we have the wetland

698
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:53,930
over the way, districts, regulations in there,

699
00:43:54,210 --> 00:43:58,030
and I think we discussed amending some of them

700
00:43:58,030 --> 00:43:59,910
with art and changing some of them, I think that.

701
00:44:00,890 --> 00:44:02,490
And I mentioned this at the end of our meeting

702
00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:04,610
when I gave the conservation report,

703
00:44:04,830 --> 00:44:05,850
I was like, our meeting's this week,

704
00:44:05,970 --> 00:44:08,890
but this is kind of astonishing to me

705
00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:10,630
that you can disturb a quarter of a major

706
00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:12,230
with a driveway, well and buck without

707
00:44:12,730 --> 00:44:14,070
any input from the conservation commission.

708
00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:17,850
And I was like, I'll add this to the list of items

709
00:44:17,850 --> 00:44:23,670
that I would like the board to eventually address on the ordinance and the buffer regulations.

710
00:44:24,110 --> 00:44:28,250
So I don't know if the commission thinks that makes sense or that or it doesn't.

711
00:44:28,810 --> 00:44:33,030
Thank you for having this hat in mind when you were at that meeting.

712
00:44:33,450 --> 00:44:37,550
Yeah, I mean that's part of the goal of the liaison is to make sure things that are

713
00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:42,630
should be, yeah, and come to the commission for input and bring in the commission back

714
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:49,690
back and forth. So if folks think that that's a good idea, they'll kind of pursue a change

715
00:44:49,690 --> 00:44:55,870
to that. I'm not sure what the square footer should be. To me it should be almost any because

716
00:44:55,870 --> 00:44:59,830
not every board thinks of everything else. So we're like, oh, well, silk-densing them.

717
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,060
The person argues, well, why do you need that? It's only going to be open.

718
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,080
It's like, well, if it's got to be open for, you know, two days, you could have a thunderstorm.

719
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:11,140
In the middle of the summer, you could wash all of your soil into the wetland buffer area, you know.

720
00:45:12,260 --> 00:45:19,240
So, you know, it was a good discussion. So, I don't know if the commission thinks there should be...

721
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:22,420
We can discuss it some other time, but...

722
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,960
So you are working with Florida on reviewing the whole...

723
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,780
So a few months ago. We reviewed some I met with them

724
00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:33,120
We kind of went back and forth a little bit and then really haven't moved much on them recently. So

725
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:38,600
Yeah, it seems to me anything in that over life should be reviewed to see if it's still

726
00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:45,660
We should tighten it up. I'd be curious to see if there is anything else out there other towns that how they protect their

727
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,640
Yeah, and I had brought up the whole buffer to the buffer

728
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:55,280
Yeah, yeah, right people that design stuff right up to the buffer. Yeah, and that that was a

729
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,360
make a discussion at the planning board, you know, if there would be support or if that's

730
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,760
the best way to tackle that issue.

731
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:09,600
So as members of NHACC, that could be a Barbara Richter question too, find out from her what

732
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,020
she knows about, I mean, this buffer to the buffer thing.

733
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,860
That exists.

734
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,000
In other towns.

735
00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:15,760
It certainly does.

736
00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:20,680
And I think she would know a lot about legislation, she'd know about what town did what, what

737
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,780
town did what and couldn't accomplish what, what town had an issue and did accomplish

738
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:29,240
it and have. NHACC could be a great resource for a topic like that.

739
00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:35,520
So it seems that you have the buffer to not be touched, you know, that in my mind you

740
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,960
said putting the buffer, that's now part of the wetland because it's the buffer to the

741
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,220
water source, yeah. So you need a buffer to the buffer.

742
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:52,820
Yeah, you know, this is close to the prime wetland to offset from the river, but it

743
00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:57,740
was just, it's like just outside it. It's like, the spoiled shouldn't get into the prime

744
00:46:57,740 --> 00:47:02,020
wetland buffer. It should be within just the regular wetland buffer, the poorly drained

745
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:09,320
wetland buffer. Again, it's 75 square feet. The alternative would have been a lot more

746
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,300
buffer impact, but there's already a driveway there, so it's like, but there's something

747
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:18,060
to do with the state. So he's actually has to cross his lot and go to the, he

748
00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:24,260
He owns two adjacent houses, running up to the next lot and then out to the road to not

749
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:30,380
have to put another attachment across 108 because supposedly the state will not let him.

750
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:36,920
And then the line from the house, just so the commission knows that if somebody wants

751
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,540
to bank this in a moment for down the road, the connection from the house out to 108

752
00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:43,120
runs basically in a wetland.

753
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,940
So it was like a four inch or four and a half inch pipe from the house out to one

754
00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:55,380
way buried within buffer and within that one itself. So I asked if that pipe had

755
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:58,760
been inspected, if they did a video inspection to know adding more flow to it,

756
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:04,860
is it gonna fail soon? That pipe, you know, it's a pipe and they hadn't done any

757
00:48:04,860 --> 00:48:10,360
inspection. I think it was installed in the, I want to say the 90s at some point.

758
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,660
I don't know if it was early or late night, it's not like 200 years ago or something crazy like that.

759
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,760
So it's probably PVC or something which doesn't last forever.

760
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,700
So there could be an issue with twice the flow down the future. It's big enough to handle it.

761
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,240
But again, it was an immediate solution.

762
00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:34,120
It was a thorough and comprehensive report from Planning Board.

763
00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:35,380
Thank you for all of the details.

764
00:48:35,740 --> 00:48:37,200
Well, it had something to do with commission this week.

765
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:48,490
Yeah, yeah. No, it does. So is there action to be taken to find out more? What do you feel

766
00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:54,010
was the next step, knowing this was only 75 feet, but what about the buffer to the buffer?

767
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:59,650
What about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's just my thing. Like nobody else on the planning

768
00:48:59,650 --> 00:49:04,230
board is like, I'm going to work on these regulations. So I have a marked-up set of

769
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:08,030
them that I marked up while I was discussing with Bart while I was sitting there talking.

770
00:49:08,550 --> 00:49:14,930
So it's a matter of marking it up a little more and then I could present it or send it

771
00:49:14,930 --> 00:49:18,110
off to someone else in the commission to look at.

772
00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:22,310
I would like commission input before anything is brought back to Bart.

773
00:49:24,610 --> 00:49:27,970
Would it help to have an endorsement for us to say, yeah, we want you to work

774
00:49:27,970 --> 00:49:34,150
with Bart on reviewing this overlay district and whatever recommendation we will review

775
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:35,750
and put forth to the pine board.

776
00:49:36,590 --> 00:49:37,770
It seemed like you needed a little support.

777
00:49:38,110 --> 00:49:39,710
It could. I mean Bart's definitely into it.

778
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:40,310
Yeah.

779
00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:41,910
So Bart is supportive.

780
00:49:42,130 --> 00:49:42,390
Yeah, yeah.

781
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:46,070
And I'm not saying that the pine board's not supportive.

782
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:48,190
I just don't think it's something anyone else is really

783
00:49:48,190 --> 00:49:49,930
like more interested in pursuing.

784
00:49:50,310 --> 00:49:50,470
Right, right.

785
00:49:50,810 --> 00:49:51,010
Yeah, yeah.

786
00:49:51,830 --> 00:49:52,550
So, um...

787
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:54,310
I like the idea of the letter of support.

788
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:57,630
And that way you can feel more supported.

789
00:49:57,970 --> 00:49:58,730
Okay, sure.

790
00:49:58,930 --> 00:50:00,590
We're just about to say, yeah, or in, you know,

791
00:50:00,590 --> 00:50:06,550
consensus we endorse and review and we look forward to seeing recommended changes that we can account.

792
00:50:06,610 --> 00:50:12,010
Oh, we did also, sorry, we reviewed the prime wetland report briefly.

793
00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:14,630
Very brief discussion on the prime wetland report.

794
00:50:16,430 --> 00:50:22,870
BART has yet to begin notification of the butters and landowners affected by them.

795
00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:27,010
So we made sure that people affected by the changes

796
00:50:27,010 --> 00:50:34,150
and people's lots who are impacted by them or the buffers, so the first buffer

797
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:40,650
extent, so every 150 feet. So any lot that's within 150 feet of the new

798
00:50:40,650 --> 00:50:46,170
primal ones, any lot that's having impact change plus or minus will be

799
00:50:46,170 --> 00:50:53,990
notified of that first reading, I believe, which will eventually end up at the time of council.

800
00:50:56,670 --> 00:51:02,350
I think it was like short, if you have comments, bring them to the next meeting, and then we'll...

801
00:51:02,350 --> 00:51:02,750
Oh, right.

802
00:51:04,170 --> 00:51:05,850
Yeah, I don't recall.

803
00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:13,570
There was some stuff from Pelham in there that folks focused on a little bit,

804
00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:17,510
because they were confused to like, wait a minute, that doesn't look like a new market.

805
00:51:18,370 --> 00:51:20,510
So I think Mark has some touch-up to do with the move on.

806
00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:20,690
Yeah, okay.

807
00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:22,830
Did Bart make no of that?

808
00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:24,130
I believe he did.

809
00:51:24,130 --> 00:51:26,410
I'm sure he did, yeah, yeah, he was there.

810
00:51:27,490 --> 00:51:28,570
So, so sorry.

811
00:51:28,970 --> 00:51:29,830
No, don't be sorry.

812
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:31,410
Back to the end, it just popped into my head

813
00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:32,230
and it was in my head.

814
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:32,910
Yeah, it's okay.

815
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,820
So, I mean, a letter would be fine.

816
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,900
Yeah, I'm wondering, Ellen,

817
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:42,540
do you, would this be something that you can

818
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,740
do a skeletal draft and interface with Bridget about

819
00:51:45,740 --> 00:51:49,380
or what would be the flow of getting this kind of letter

820
00:51:49,380 --> 00:51:51,620
into the correct pathway?

821
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,140
Can you, a letter or is it just a vote now

822
00:51:54,140 --> 00:52:00,240
to say we support, we really, we're, we support our view of the wetland overlay

823
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:04,020
district. There you go. So Jeff is a lead and we look forward to seeing the

824
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:07,840
recommendations. Would that be sufficient for you to feel sufficiently

825
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,080
supported? I think it comes up barely short.

826
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,920
I don't think we need a letter.

827
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,400
That just seems like... Yeah, no, I think that's actually not a bad idea

828
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:26,500
because then, it's known that it's not being done in like...

829
00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:27,320
Yeah, you can present that item.

830
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,260
No, no, you're wearing the hat.

831
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,360
Perhaps there's any commissions that you can use here.

832
00:52:30,460 --> 00:52:31,920
We don't want to get...

833
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,360
All right.

834
00:52:33,580 --> 00:52:34,900
So that's a motion item.

835
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,060
Yeah, motion to...

836
00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:36,920
So it's officially in the minutes here.

837
00:52:37,460 --> 00:52:38,500
Can I vote on it?

838
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,620
I must vote on it because I support the review.

839
00:52:42,180 --> 00:52:42,580
Sure.

840
00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:44,340
We all support the review.

841
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:45,720
Sorry.

842
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:47,280
Yeah.

843
00:52:47,980 --> 00:52:48,380
Okay.

844
00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:56,720
So do I have a motion to motion as we support it's a verbal motion to verbally

845
00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,600
support Jeff as the representative from Conservation Commission to Planning Board

846
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:07,060
to further the changes necessary in considering the buffer to the buffer.

847
00:53:07,180 --> 00:53:13,420
I think it's just to review the well and overlay recommendations back to

848
00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:21,060
conservation mission and planning board. Okay, all in favor of that. I'll send this here. Okay,

849
00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:29,780
thank you. Jeff's seconded it. We all agree. Thank you, Jeff. Anything else from that? No?

850
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:37,640
No. All right. Riverfront advisory remains empty. School liaison. No, E&E is empty.

851
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,160
Riverfront advisory is still same, Kenny. You have something from sale? I'm

852
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:48,540
Yeah, but we should, I mean, don't make sure we report back.

853
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,420
We should have SAM report back.

854
00:53:51,380 --> 00:53:53,360
Let me sit in an e-mail and ask him what's up.

855
00:53:53,620 --> 00:53:54,120
Yeah, okay.

856
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,740
There's an e-mail report, right?

857
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,960
We'll have to come to a meeting.

858
00:54:01,790 --> 00:54:02,210
Okay.

859
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:11,280
Maybe I can look at who else is under referent advisory

860
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,140
and see if they have, like, minutes or meeting reports

861
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:15,900
or something else involved.

862
00:54:17,380 --> 00:54:19,760
Okay, back to Emma.

863
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,380
Hi.

864
00:54:20,380 --> 00:54:26,640
Hi there. Thank you for being here and for the breaking news is Emma's gonna be our student rep again, so

865
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,240
Yeah, so

866
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,540
Tomorrow is our last day of school

867
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:35,260
So the past couple weeks just kind of been winding down and kind of figuring out what we're gonna do with everything

868
00:54:35,260 --> 00:54:36,080
I'll be doing this year

869
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:39,500
So as I previously mentioned in a couple other meetings

870
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:45,500
We have started growing seeds inside our school is kind of a way to keep our school green even in the winter months

871
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:49,480
When I was kind of harder to do such things even though because that's how it's so cold

872
00:54:50,060 --> 00:54:55,160
So we distributed all the seedlings that we had grown throughout the winter to all

873
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,200
of our different club members to take home. I personally just planted basil

874
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,480
with that in my backyard. So hopefully it doesn't get sunburned and it'll grow

875
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:09,180
healthy so I can make basil and pestone, everything like that. So that is what

876
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:13,420
we've kind of been doing with the seeds. As a planning throughout the summer,

877
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:20,320
We are planning on continuing a kind of extensive watering schedule for the trees

878
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,620
that we planted last year to ensure that they go healthy, they grow strong, we're

879
00:55:24,620 --> 00:55:27,500
going to kind of re-correct the way that they've been growing because if you

880
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:31,140
aren't growing a little crooked. But this summer is kind of hard because of

881
00:55:31,140 --> 00:55:34,700
participation and everybody's doing everything else and not a set-up

882
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:39,140
schedule so there's not much that we do outside of school. But we do plan

883
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:41,920
ahead for the next school year to kind of have ideas of what we want to

884
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,820
doing fall and towards the spring. So in the fall we plan to continue our roadside

885
00:55:46,820 --> 00:55:50,320
cleanups to kind of clean up our streets and everything like that. It's really good

886
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,900
participation activity for a lot of people to get hands dirty with picking

887
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:57,920
up the streets and just keeping the areas around the school clean and walking

888
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,180
distance and just a great way to get outside and everything like that. And then

889
00:56:02,180 --> 00:56:06,700
you're also planning on raising our water barrel that we have. So we have

890
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:10,840
water barrel right by the entrance of the school, but because of the weight

891
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:16,600
of the water is sinking into the ground because it's such a wet ground that it's on, so the

892
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,060
bricks that it's on are sinking into the ground. So we have to raise it up so that's more accessible

893
00:56:21,060 --> 00:56:25,780
to everything because right now I have to take the bug netting off to get any water because

894
00:56:25,780 --> 00:56:32,020
it's so low to the ground. So that's something that we're trying to fix just for more convenience

895
00:56:32,020 --> 00:56:37,480
for everybody. It helps us. And then following the rain barrel we're doing it because we want

896
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:42,440
way to water the gardens that we're going to be redoing. So when our environmental

897
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:47,440
club was first created by a student, they created gardens outside of the

898
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,960
schools and in past years it's kind of been in the back of our minds not really

899
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:57,020
been a big concern. So one of our focuses this upcoming year is kind of

900
00:56:57,020 --> 00:57:01,340
say centered at school and just kind of see what more we can do at school and

901
00:57:01,340 --> 00:57:05,160
one item on our bucket list is redoing the gardens just kind of

902
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:11,300
keep it green, keep more student involvement, keep schedule with it watering and everything

903
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:16,380
like that just to make it more hours than it was past like the past members of our club.

904
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,800
So yeah, just kind of planning and figuring out what we want to do next year and just kind of

905
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,260
keep it centered to our school. We also just distributed the rocks that we painted with

906
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,960
environmentalism and paint just to kind of just liven up our school a little bit more.

907
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,460
Yeah, that's all you have.

908
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,220
Nice, thank you.

909
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,640
And you, how many, is it going to be like a JV

910
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,800
building year because your varsity team has left,

911
00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:44,240
or what does your student population look like

912
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,980
for a club membership for next year?

913
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,960
We have about 50 members in our club,

914
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,080
which is really great for our school,

915
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,980
seeing as, yeah, so.

916
00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:52,880
That's kind of everybody.

917
00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:53,940
Our school is really small.

918
00:57:54,660 --> 00:57:56,520
We have about 250 kids in our school,

919
00:57:56,620 --> 00:57:58,280
so having a fifth of that population

920
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,760
just being in our solely in our club

921
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:06,440
is really important to us. A lot of it is our officers, so me included, and our

922
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,280
President Magnolia Redman, and there's about six of us with our advisor, Katie

923
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,680
Gazelle. We work really closely every week. We meet every week before school at

924
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,400
6.30 a.m. meetings, which I love so much, and we kind of just work really

925
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:27,040
closely to plan together. But as a whole student population, like in our

926
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,400
club we try to do big group involvement so that everybody's able to participate

927
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,860
it's not just that close-knit group of officers that are able to do it but it's

928
00:58:35,860 --> 00:58:39,400
really open club it's really available to middle schoolers high schoolers

929
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,880
whoever is interested in joining and it's a really great way to just actively

930
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,240
participate but not having to commit to so much unless you are looking to go

931
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,560
above and beyond and become an officer and so I think that's a really

932
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:58,500
great part of our club and it's just a great way to have service, interact with

933
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:02,340
our school or community and our time community at the same time. I mean cleaning up

934
00:59:02,340 --> 00:59:07,640
the streets is a really cool way of interacting and yeah I think it's just a

935
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:13,400
great way to see everything around us. It's very rewarding to see. It was messy, now it's clean.

936
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,500
It's a big difference. You don't think it will. You've been just picking up one

937
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:21,180
street just looks so much better. Just makes me feel good.

938
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,260
Well the recent Rec Connect event, it was very fun to show a picture of you at the Rec Connect event

939
00:59:26,260 --> 00:59:31,520
and be able to say this was our student liaison and you had told me that you were going to do it again

940
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:38,360
so I thought, yeah, so I said it there, that you were, you were, this liaison this year

941
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,060
and that you were going to continue. And it was really fun to have the school superintendent there

942
00:59:42,060 --> 00:59:45,360
and be able to have him say, oh, one of the students though.

943
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,220
And it's a lovely picture of you. It was standing by your booth at Turtle Fest.

944
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,140
That's right. Thank you so much. Yeah. Well, it's a pleasure to have the student reps.

945
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,400
I hope it catches on in ways that's possible with other boards or commissions.

946
00:59:57,660 --> 00:59:59,980
It's not a new market, but in other towns they might hear.

947
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,040
We have you and they want to do the same thing. Thank you. Any other updates from

948
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:12,140
anybody pertinent to these kind of reports? I'll just say I had 14 students at New

949
01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:17,640
Market Cares say I'm the 23rd at here in Pointe and that was very successful. A lot

950
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,840
of repeats from year before so that was fun. Yeah, it turned out it didn't rain as

951
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:27,280
much as we thought it was going to. Oh boy, that's great. It was a great job.

952
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:37,780
Okay now we're back to treasure here with Rosa property update. Okay so let's see

953
01:00:37,780 --> 01:00:41,580
one kind of thing when we last met. So Bart and I went to the Lampere Advisory

954
01:00:41,580 --> 01:00:46,200
Committee meeting. I think that was after our last meeting. I can't remember. We

955
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,780
asked for a hundred thousand dollars and they gave us a hundred thousand dollars

956
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:53,480
for the Rosa project which was very exciting. Very impressive because that's

957
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,020
a very large sum of money even for them. So it just shows the importance

958
01:00:58,020 --> 01:01:03,120
of the property to the L.I.P.R. River, Faults Brook watershed and so forth and I think also

959
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,800
speaks to the collaboration we've had over the years with L.R.A.C. so very supportive

960
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,080
of our work.

961
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Yep.

962
01:01:11,540 --> 01:01:14,840
Does that change the way we're going to ask for a 100,000 dollars?

963
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,100
Yeah, so this we, a 100,000 dollars was in the budget.

964
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,300
Oh, S.D. asked.

965
01:01:20,740 --> 01:01:21,740
S.D. asked for the L.I.P.R.

966
01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:22,500
Okay, so it was already in there.

967
01:01:22,660 --> 01:01:22,720
Okay.

968
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:23,600
Yeah, it was already in there.

969
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:23,780
Right.

970
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:26,880
So we asked for 100,000 and it gave us 100,000 so that's one piece of the overall

971
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:32,360
budget that we're looking for. And of course we've committed to 15,000 plus. We're looking

972
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,360
at a warrant article for next spring. The L-CHIP application will go in probably one

973
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:42,660
day or Tuesday. So that's about, we're asking for $75,000 from L-CHIP. And then I submitted

974
01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:50,840
one to Fields Pond Foundation for 20,000. We won't hear from that until the end of

975
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:57,280
and LGIP is sometime in the fall, and we'll apply to Moose Plate in the fall as well, and

976
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,660
then also Great Bay Resource Protection Partnership will have another grant round as well.

977
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:06,800
So we're, you know, the LRAC thing was huge in terms of showing, you know, we're raising

978
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:07,200
the funds.

979
01:02:07,780 --> 01:02:13,860
And BART is working, and Ben from SELF and myself have been working with our account

980
01:02:13,860 --> 01:02:18,660
attorney and the Rose's attorney to draft the signed purchase and sales agreement.

981
01:02:20,060 --> 01:02:27,240
So there's still some back and forth in terms of some things that we wanted, some things that the ROSA wanted in the contract.

982
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,040
But hopefully that will be signed in the next few days or early next week.

983
01:02:33,690 --> 01:02:35,550
Any questions about the ROSA? Perfect.

984
01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:38,330
Very constructive. Thank you.

985
01:02:38,430 --> 01:02:39,630
Yeah, it's going well.

986
01:02:41,390 --> 01:02:43,390
So I can keep going on the stewardship stuff.

987
01:02:43,390 --> 01:02:50,330
So we have a bunch of stewardship things I wanted to talk about, a couple maps I put up in a packet.

988
01:02:50,650 --> 01:02:54,190
So the one on the right is the Fallsbrook Watershed.

989
01:02:54,550 --> 01:02:57,410
So if you look in the center is the Audubon Clocked Property,

990
01:02:57,550 --> 01:02:59,710
and just to the left is where the ROSA project is.

991
01:03:01,510 --> 01:03:06,290
But one of the things we've talked about for a couple years is...

992
01:03:06,290 --> 01:03:07,790
I wasn't going to do this one first, but here I am.

993
01:03:07,790 --> 01:03:14,870
So the orange are town properties and the Piscacic River Loisel has the trail and the Audubon property has the trail.

994
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:22,030
To the north of the Piscacic River Loisel is the Caroline Drive open space and the waterworks along the Falls Brook

995
01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:25,870
and then Newso, Leahy and Zazik which we town bought.

996
01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:30,430
And you'll see that the waterworks continues, our ownership continues into Durham.

997
01:03:31,210 --> 01:03:34,410
And so one of the things, and once we do the Rosa property,

998
01:03:34,410 --> 01:03:38,350
it would be really one of the things we want to do is look at what's the trail

999
01:03:38,350 --> 01:03:43,230
connectivity possibilities but to think of that we also should do like a natural

1000
01:03:43,230 --> 01:03:46,590
resource inventory to figure out where the ecologically significant areas are

1001
01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:50,930
so you can do that at the same time do a trails analysis and the NRI natural

1002
01:03:50,930 --> 01:03:55,070
resource inventory at the same time so really what I want to just present

1003
01:03:55,070 --> 01:04:00,050
there's a couple steps that would be involved with this I think one is that

1004
01:04:00,530 --> 01:04:06,110
we would want the council to we want to present I think this to the town council

1005
01:04:06,110 --> 01:04:11,390
to say you know we want to do this but we really want to consolidate those

1006
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:15,210
other town ownership into like a Fallsport conservation area like we

1007
01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:19,330
don't want to go do down this step if those lands are going to be used for

1008
01:04:19,330 --> 01:04:22,450
something else which they really really can't because it's kind of

1009
01:04:22,450 --> 01:04:26,410
conservation lens but we want to sort of get that endorsement that you know

1010
01:04:26,410 --> 01:04:28,710
Let's create this conservation area

1011
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:29,990
and these are the two missions

1012
01:04:30,530 --> 01:04:32,650
to protect ecologically important areas

1013
01:04:32,650 --> 01:04:33,910
as well as look at trail connectivity.

1014
01:04:34,990 --> 01:04:39,050
The Water Works property and the Caroline Drive property

1015
01:04:39,050 --> 01:04:41,610
may need some additional boundary survey work.

1016
01:04:42,550 --> 01:04:44,970
So there's a cost to that.

1017
01:04:45,790 --> 01:04:47,610
The problem with survey work is

1018
01:04:47,610 --> 01:04:49,150
that nobody will give you a grant for it.

1019
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:51,270
You'd have to pay that out of account funds

1020
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:54,170
and so we'd have to think about the cost for that.

1021
01:04:55,110 --> 01:05:02,190
And then the natural resource inventory itself and the trails analysis we could go out and I think be pretty successful looking for grants

1022
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:09,050
to fund that which could be that kind of a project here would be probably $20,000 to $30,000.

1023
01:05:11,210 --> 01:05:16,530
So I am not really looking for any funding support right now.

1024
01:05:16,530 --> 01:05:18,690
I just want to see if you think this is a good idea.

1025
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:26,350
If so, we would probably create a memo to Barton Town Council and say this is what we're

1026
01:05:26,350 --> 01:05:27,210
thinking about out here.

1027
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:29,230
These are the steps we think are involved.

1028
01:05:31,130 --> 01:05:32,710
Would you support this kind of thing?

1029
01:05:33,030 --> 01:05:33,250
I

1030
01:05:38,370 --> 01:05:42,250
think it was from a planning perspective.

1031
01:05:42,670 --> 01:05:46,110
I don't think that the land's ever going to be sold by the town and then be developed

1032
01:05:47,730 --> 01:05:51,470
because access is extremely difficult to anything that may be developed for them.

1033
01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:03,080
Unless they tried to put wells out there, I think it didn't work for one reason or another.

1034
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:08,420
They built that road on the north side of the Brook and then they drilled a few wells and

1035
01:06:08,420 --> 01:06:10,780
they never developed them for one reason or another.

1036
01:06:11,540 --> 01:06:14,460
Obviously, they looked for water again in other places.

1037
01:06:15,020 --> 01:06:15,820
Yeah, I think that's out.

1038
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:22,780
I should say Bart has talked to Sean, the head of the water department, and he is okay with it becoming conservation land.

1039
01:06:22,780 --> 01:06:28,380
So he has no, he doesn't see any future for those lands as water properties.

1040
01:06:28,780 --> 01:06:33,620
I think the town years ago assessed it for planting fields or something.

1041
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,340
Right, the Rousseau, Zezek, yeah.

1042
01:06:35,500 --> 01:06:36,620
And that didn't pan out either?

1043
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:36,980
No.

1044
01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:45,140
So I think it's a great opportunity to become a conservation area and have lofty soils or something.

1045
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,680
I think the master plan process seems to support that

1046
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,440
in terms of what the public is interested in,

1047
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,600
in terms of trails and open space.

1048
01:06:54,860 --> 01:06:56,100
And the nice thing about that area

1049
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,420
is it is close to downtown,

1050
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,820
or there's neighborhoods there

1051
01:07:01,820 --> 01:07:04,540
that would really benefit from that.

1052
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:06,680
I've always thought that was the best aspect

1053
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,880
of the SCASIC-WISEL,

1054
01:07:08,020 --> 01:07:09,860
is how it's a new trail in town.

1055
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:10,680
Yeah, I agree.

1056
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,640
And then try to connect into Durham too.

1057
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,520
Right, the idea is to also connect in new market,

1058
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:24,700
but also then find connectivity into Durham and if you look at the waterworks all the

1059
01:07:24,700 --> 01:07:30,580
way where it goes, you know, the most northern of the pinkish-orangeous color, that in Durham

1060
01:07:30,580 --> 01:07:35,800
abuts the Rosa piece that we're planning to acquire. So we'll have connectivity in

1061
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:44,740
terms of a fee ownership into Rosa. We probably want to collaborate with Audubon

1062
01:07:44,740 --> 01:07:47,200
because we might want to cross over.

1063
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,500
This is a trail on Audubon.

1064
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:51,380
There's only two there already.

1065
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,640
Well, it's not a physical trail.

1066
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:54,580
It's not a sanctioned trail.

1067
01:07:56,460 --> 01:07:59,000
Is there any trails on the Smith Sisters?

1068
01:07:59,860 --> 01:08:00,960
There is a trail.

1069
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,320
Actually, yeah, there's a trail.

1070
01:08:02,580 --> 01:08:03,660
It's just that there's no parking.

1071
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,080
But we should put the trail.

1072
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,100
There is a trail on that property.

1073
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,640
Yeah, that looks like something great.

1074
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,440
We really have some cool trail sisters.

1075
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,560
There's some opportunity there.

1076
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,900
They, you know, as I think we've talked about before, they're a little bit under capacity

1077
01:08:16,900 --> 01:08:22,180
for managing lands and so they're trying to build up their staff again.

1078
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,420
So there may be an opportunity to actually collaborate with them on even a bigger natural

1079
01:08:26,420 --> 01:08:28,140
resource inventory and trails analysis.

1080
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,780
They could, you know, bring something maybe to a table.

1081
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,820
It's looking like we'll probably have to have some bridges built to a rock.

1082
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:36,620
I think four, yeah.

1083
01:08:37,060 --> 01:08:37,480
Boardwalks.

1084
01:08:37,660 --> 01:08:37,920
Bridges.

1085
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:39,120
Boardwalks.

1086
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,260
Yeah.

1087
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,180
They're called boardwalks.

1088
01:08:43,540 --> 01:08:53,200
Is the trail that's there, like the lead line trail, it's commonly or often referred to that's up on the right, the north side of Fallsburg.

1089
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:54,120
What do you call it?

1090
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,980
You walk up there and then there's like a straight line trail that heads north.

1091
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,000
Yeah, because I think it is.

1092
01:08:59,580 --> 01:09:03,340
That's just mostly of a private property, not even conserved.

1093
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,340
So I think that, isn't that green property no access?

1094
01:09:06,700 --> 01:09:07,900
Yeah, the fair, yeah, yeah.

1095
01:09:07,900 --> 01:09:13,400
No, we'd have to work with Durham, and they'd have to work with those folks who own, because

1096
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,140
that's private land, conserved by private land.

1097
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:17,980
Yeah, no public access.

1098
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,280
Well, yeah.

1099
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:19,960
I don't know.

1100
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,160
You can walk on through it, but I don't think it's a good idea.

1101
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,460
The thing would be to sneak up through that other, there's only one ownership, that big

1102
01:09:27,460 --> 01:09:28,980
white space is one owner.

1103
01:09:30,020 --> 01:09:30,460
Yeah.

1104
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,860
And they did a big clearing with fishing wallet or fishing game or wallet habitat

1105
01:09:35,860 --> 01:09:37,700
up there, so they're interested in conservation.

1106
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:41,560
It comes right up to the Smith sisters property.

1107
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:42,420
Yeah.

1108
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,260
That was years ago. Is it growing any longer?

1109
01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:47,840
Yes, it's growing back.

1110
01:09:48,980 --> 01:09:53,440
So I guess I'm sort of just looking for, yeah, let's pursue this and

1111
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,340
probably what we'd be looking for is

1112
01:09:58,580 --> 01:10:02,780
go to the council, get feedback from the council and then figure out

1113
01:10:02,780 --> 01:10:06,760
the survey needs, I know we've talked a little bit about that a little bit, but I think

1114
01:10:07,420 --> 01:10:10,780
should have decided we have to do the whole property. The Caroline Drive is the one

1115
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,480
that was given to the town as part of that development,

1116
01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:18,740
Caroline Drive, and it needs a little

1117
01:10:18,740 --> 01:10:22,480
funky, and the boundaries, not so much

1118
01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:26,740
next to Audubon, because that boundary is pretty well known, but the boundary around the house

1119
01:10:26,740 --> 01:10:29,020
that's there, I think

1120
01:10:30,980 --> 01:10:36,600
at least it's modern, at least it's modern, so you can sort of figure it out in my opinion.

1121
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:36,920
Yeah, yeah.

1122
01:10:37,220 --> 01:10:40,640
But I forget, I just, there might be some encroachments, but that's why we have to do a survey.

1123
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,160
Okay.

1124
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:43,680
Does it?

1125
01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:47,480
It's in line with what you've been working on with, you know, with 1000 people, and

1126
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:48,200
connected with each other.

1127
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,840
Yeah, I think it fits with the model.

1128
01:10:50,180 --> 01:10:50,500
Okay.

1129
01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:55,380
We'll be looking to the town to help pay for, so if we're going to take,

1130
01:10:59,000 --> 01:10:59,000
I'm

1131
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:10,080
So we would take what conservation commissioners would say would take, like, not ownership, but responsibility for stewardship of that property.

1132
01:11:11,340 --> 01:11:16,160
See, we're leaving the town of a little bit of a, I mean, I know it's still the town.

1133
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:16,420
Yeah.

1134
01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:19,180
But usually the funds for stuff come out of this.

1135
01:11:19,340 --> 01:11:24,040
Would the town, you think, help pay for the survey in the National Resource Inventory?

1136
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:27,200
Because we're kind of leaving the town of the burden, maybe, a little bit.

1137
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:31,740
I think we could find grants for the Natural Resource Inventory and maybe we could convince

1138
01:11:31,740 --> 01:11:35,080
the town that, you know, can you come up with the money for the surveys?

1139
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:36,380
Because we don't really have that.

1140
01:11:36,460 --> 01:11:37,460
We don't have the ability of that.

1141
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:38,640
It's getting like a conservation fund.

1142
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,040
That might be a little bit expensive.

1143
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:40,880
Yeah.

1144
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,960
It's not going to have, you know, that kind of point.

1145
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,100
We just did a little portion.

1146
01:11:44,220 --> 01:11:44,520
I know.

1147
01:11:44,820 --> 01:11:46,720
That's a lengthy boundary.

1148
01:11:47,140 --> 01:11:47,640
No, it's a lot.

1149
01:11:48,340 --> 01:11:48,600
Yeah.

1150
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:54,580
The only good thing is the Audubon-Cloxus is well known, Piscassi-Glozell is well

1151
01:11:54,580 --> 01:11:54,980
known.

1152
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:55,800
Yeah.

1153
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:01,140
But the problem is the waterworks is not, and the carillon drive, those are the two that

1154
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:01,340
are not.

1155
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:02,320
The other ones are are.

1156
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,920
Yeah, they're pretty well.

1157
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:07,240
The exterior boundaries are pretty well known, and if the town's going to put them all in

1158
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,480
conservation, they could probably just consolidate it.

1159
01:12:09,480 --> 01:12:10,400
Right, you don't need the interior.

1160
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:11,380
You don't need all the boundaries.

1161
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:11,820
Right.

1162
01:12:11,860 --> 01:12:14,800
You don't need the interior boundaries, and this is a question about whether or not

1163
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:15,900
there's a gap in there somewhere.

1164
01:12:16,060 --> 01:12:16,260
Mm-hmm.

1165
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,620
And I mean, you still technically should, on the ground, survey the entire boundary,

1166
01:12:22,060 --> 01:12:22,720
well known.

1167
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:23,640
You still have to.

1168
01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:24,900
You should still survey the boundary.

1169
01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:32,840
And I know that when I did the survey work personally in the field back in the day on the north side of the brook,

1170
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,120
I know we found some momentation back in there.

1171
01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:37,880
So it's not a blank slate anyway.

1172
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,600
But it's just, it takes some time I guess as well.

1173
01:12:42,380 --> 01:12:46,700
Yeah, wild, wild, well I shouldn't, no, I'm not going to ask you for a wild estimate.

1174
01:12:53,780 --> 01:13:01,340
something different. Some are some. Yeah, we have to figure that out. So it may take us

1175
01:13:01,340 --> 01:13:09,500
several years to get to it. Okay, so that's that. So it sounds like, just consensus wise,

1176
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:16,680
it sounds like positive. So then the other one is, put it on the left is, so that's

1177
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:22,200
Falls Road and then River Bend. The bigger orange piece is about three and a half

1178
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,240
acres which borders the school property. So the parking lot, you can see the

1179
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:31,120
parking lot. It's in the lower center area of the school. The high school is

1180
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,280
across the street. And then behind the parking lot the school owns, that was the

1181
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,640
old, you know, carpeted greenhouse and they owned that land that then extends

1182
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:45,800
to the town on the piece in orange. And so one of the thoughts was, actually

1183
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:50,420
Lizzie, who's come up several times tonight, she lives in River Bend. And she says, you

1184
01:13:50,420 --> 01:13:55,920
know, there's sort of an informal trail on that 50-foot strip that comes down from River

1185
01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:00,020
Bend neighborhood onto that orange, the rest of the orange property. And then the kids

1186
01:14:00,020 --> 01:14:06,320
walk over to the school. There you go. But it's, you know, it's probably just pieces

1187
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,860
of wood, right? It's not a nice boardwalk. And so my thought was, this seems like

1188
01:14:10,860 --> 01:14:14,360
a nice, you know, again, the master plan we're talking about, better connectivity,

1189
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:21,980
particularly in town and it might be nice to talk to the school and see if they

1190
01:14:21,980 --> 01:14:26,920
would agree to collaborate on you know we'd have again to look for grants to

1191
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,940
do a boardwalk kind of like we did at Wigan Farm I don't know the distance I

1192
01:14:30,940 --> 01:14:34,600
haven't actually been out there to measure the distance but and then get

1193
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,560
a quote again from a trails consultant to figure out we do a wetlands

1194
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,780
permit and a boardwalk and then presumably make a trail through the

1195
01:14:42,780 --> 01:14:47,800
woods out to the parking lot does that seem like a yeah I know a lot of I

1196
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:52,920
know there's at least probably five families that definitely have kids I'd

1197
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,380
be coming up to the middle school and high school soon and I think we're

1198
01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:58,940
definitely benefit from it you guys you can see it's quite a long walk and

1199
01:14:58,940 --> 01:14:59,720
parents aren't available.

1200
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,780
Well, I think they'd be really beneficial. I know that kids use it quite frequently right now, so I think that would be definitely beneficial for them.

1201
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,960
Right, because now they're walking through wet ground.

1202
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:18,420
Right. And I know my friend who built it, she just fixed it up this year with a couple planks of wood, but it's definitely nothing like Reagan.

1203
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,920
It's not like, it's definitely there, but it's not like a formal boardwalk or anything.

1204
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,120
So she lives in that neighborhood?

1205
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:30,340
Yeah, she lives right on that loop, right there, actually right around her backyard.

1206
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,980
She created it with her dad, I believe when she was younger, so that she could access

1207
01:15:35,980 --> 01:15:40,940
a school more because she was one of those kids who had to walk, because her parents

1208
01:15:40,940 --> 01:15:41,460
weren't available.

1209
01:15:41,860 --> 01:15:46,340
So I definitely know of a couple kids who use that every day to get to school and

1210
01:15:46,340 --> 01:15:46,880
stuff like that.

1211
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,020
So I think it would be very beneficial to do so.

1212
01:15:49,660 --> 01:15:52,680
Can you send me their names so they can definitely do that.

1213
01:15:54,460 --> 01:15:54,700
Yeah.

1214
01:15:54,700 --> 01:15:57,780
Yeah, I mean, I think the public would use it going the other way. I mean people

1215
01:15:59,860 --> 01:16:06,000
Street to that be cool waiting like we want to do something like that. It's like a safer passage way to get to Main Street, too

1216
01:16:10,580 --> 01:16:16,240
So would it be the do you think the fist it would be the to talk to facilities person at the school or it'd be Todd Allen

1217
01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:20,180
I would definitely recommend. I would say Todd Allen

1218
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:24,740
Mr. Quarman, Andrew Quarman, and David Riley.

1219
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:28,900
I think they would all be good people to talk to.

1220
01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:30,840
David Riley is our facilities director.

1221
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:35,700
He kind of just knows everything that's happening with everything over there,

1222
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:40,140
so I think that all three of them would be very welcome to this idea.

1223
01:16:40,220 --> 01:16:41,620
I don't think it would be a bad idea.

1224
01:16:41,780 --> 01:16:43,060
I can give you the name of my friend.

1225
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,960
Her dad actually owns Mighty Roots,

1226
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,660
So I don't think that Hugo post that in any way, Chris Redmond.

1227
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:50,760
I know Chris very well.

1228
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:52,500
So he's the one who built that.

1229
01:16:52,660 --> 01:16:54,760
So that's another person who you might want to talk to.

1230
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,520
So it's kind of a full circle moment.

1231
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,300
But yeah.

1232
01:16:58,420 --> 01:17:01,560
So I don't think that would be a negative idea in any of their eyes.

1233
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,600
But I definitely think it would be beneficial to talk to them.

1234
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,820
I donated a bunch of money to help them buy that property.

1235
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:10,500
That property?

1236
01:17:11,980 --> 01:17:13,060
Where the parking lot is?

1237
01:17:14,140 --> 01:17:14,640
The carpenter?

1238
01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:17,440
Oh, the part? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right.

1239
01:17:17,980 --> 01:17:20,720
Because I'm from the prison where the trail continues across, right?

1240
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:21,080
Yeah.

1241
01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:22,520
And onto the grass.

1242
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,260
Yeah, it kind of comes out to that where that peak is in the grass.

1243
01:17:25,500 --> 01:17:30,080
It's not the tall triangle in the back, but it ties it towards the corner.

1244
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:30,480
Yeah.

1245
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:31,820
That's where it comes out.

1246
01:17:31,940 --> 01:17:33,420
So it's not too far into the grass.

1247
01:17:33,980 --> 01:17:35,580
It's all in the woods, essentially.

1248
01:17:36,980 --> 01:17:39,140
Yeah, the carpenters are pretty used to it.

1249
01:17:39,220 --> 01:17:40,020
Right, right, yeah.

1250
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:41,420
Okay.

1251
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:51,020
I don't remember the results of the survey, it was just totally not, these blue-gold fields over there,

1252
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:57,580
they were involved and they were trying to buy it to put into fields.

1253
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,800
I think it's wet, but I don't know.

1254
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:06,640
But even if they did fields, we'd still be connected to the fields, right?

1255
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:17,300
Yeah, it's okay if we pursue, again, we don't need any funding yet just to be able to pursue

1256
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:23,120
and talk to the people at the school and maybe get some quotes on what it would cost to

1257
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:23,760
actually do the project.

1258
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:27,440
That's interesting because we used to, and the commission used to talk about the two

1259
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:30,380
pocket parks, whatever you want to call them, the little parks and we used to go

1260
01:18:30,380 --> 01:18:34,180
out there and look at them every year but we never even discussed that other piece.

1261
01:18:34,180 --> 01:18:35,200
I know.

1262
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,100
like I didn't even know it was a piece of possible.

1263
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:37,760
There's no signs.

1264
01:18:38,220 --> 01:18:40,980
It was given at the same time those pocket parks were for subdivision.

1265
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,840
Which I'm going to talk about those pocket parks in a second.

1266
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,500
It doesn't access out to Hacker's Falls road there, huh?

1267
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:49,500
Yeah.

1268
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:51,100
Yeah, that's the right way there too.

1269
01:18:51,740 --> 01:18:55,220
Because I think there was a talk about whether the school buses would come in there

1270
01:18:55,220 --> 01:18:57,040
and come out here or something like that.

1271
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:58,100
But then it's open space.

1272
01:18:58,340 --> 01:19:00,380
But it's pretty, it's...

1273
01:19:00,380 --> 01:19:01,400
It's 50 PY.

1274
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:01,860
I know.

1275
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,420
I don't think they wanted to go by, you know, cause that, and I think it's also wet.

1276
01:19:08,380 --> 01:19:10,120
Even though the wetlands only show in one spot.

1277
01:19:10,460 --> 01:19:13,970
I think the soils are poorly drained.

1278
01:19:14,150 --> 01:19:14,990
There's some version.

1279
01:19:16,630 --> 01:19:18,130
Okay, so those, let's see.

1280
01:19:18,510 --> 01:19:18,930
What else do I got?

1281
01:19:21,010 --> 01:19:21,810
All right, one more thing.

1282
01:19:22,350 --> 01:19:23,590
Actually, yes, some more things.

1283
01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:24,350
All right.

1284
01:19:24,350 --> 01:19:25,810
I know.

1285
01:19:26,270 --> 01:19:27,530
Some more stuff came up.

1286
01:19:27,530 --> 01:19:28,390
So,

1287
01:19:30,610 --> 01:19:38,850
the Land and Water Conservation Fund is a federal state grant program, and we have

1288
01:19:38,850 --> 01:19:42,990
gotten several grants in New Market over the years from that funding source, one of which

1289
01:19:42,990 --> 01:19:47,250
was to acquire Sienna Park, or at the time it was called Waterfront Park, to acquire

1290
01:19:47,250 --> 01:19:48,410
the three parcels there.

1291
01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:54,330
And then Amy at REC has gotten a couple, one of which in the Conservation Commission

1292
01:19:54,930 --> 01:20:02,910
and the rec department before him, Jim Hilton this year, I think, got an LWCF grant for the

1293
01:20:02,910 --> 01:20:06,110
acquisition of Nichols Avenue property, which is the beaming field, I think.

1294
01:20:07,130 --> 01:20:10,370
And for some reason they bundled creating these signs.

1295
01:20:10,530 --> 01:20:14,430
These are the placa parks you're talking about, Jeff, out on Maston Road and Riverbend.

1296
01:20:15,150 --> 01:20:16,450
And they made these signs.

1297
01:20:17,850 --> 01:20:22,370
So anyway, the Land and Water Conservation Fund, the state portion, they just hired

1298
01:20:22,370 --> 01:20:29,070
a compliance person. They've never had one. And so after, you know, decades, they are

1299
01:20:29,070 --> 01:20:32,870
finally going around the state to determine compliance with these original grants because

1300
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:34,950
there are some things that they're supposed to do or not do.

1301
01:20:36,970 --> 01:20:38,370
And the interesting thing

1302
01:20:38,370 --> 01:20:42,770
about the new market ones, at least the conservation stuff, Chanda Park and these,

1303
01:20:44,330 --> 01:20:48,490
you don't have almost no documentation about what are we supposed to do or not

1304
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:58,310
So I've asked for that. Anyway, they finally came out. They showed up last Tuesday and I had been in correspondence with the new compliance person back in January because I was looking for documentation.

1305
01:20:58,930 --> 01:21:05,250
Anyway, she said, oh, we're here in town. And I go, great. So anyway, Bard and I and Amy was there because they had gone to look.

1306
01:21:05,250 --> 01:21:08,510
is a splash pad, REC was also a LWCF grant.

1307
01:21:10,110 --> 01:21:12,110
So anyway, we spent a lot of time with them at Shanda Park,

1308
01:21:12,690 --> 01:21:15,390
which was really useful because we were asking them

1309
01:21:15,390 --> 01:21:18,030
about future grants, not just this past stuff

1310
01:21:18,030 --> 01:21:20,630
that we've gotten, and it seems quite feasible

1311
01:21:20,630 --> 01:21:23,170
that the town could apply for LWCF

1312
01:21:23,170 --> 01:21:27,190
for some of the Shanda Park riverfront kinds of things.

1313
01:21:27,610 --> 01:21:29,210
As long as they're recreation related,

1314
01:21:29,370 --> 01:21:32,250
so we talked about improving water quality in my brook,

1315
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:34,690
the living shoreline, that kind of stuff,

1316
01:21:35,530 --> 01:21:39,110
And maybe the improvement, you know, making the boat ramp and that's one of the things

1317
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:44,830
we're making the boat ramp smaller and then maybe this raised area to get out of the flooding

1318
01:21:44,830 --> 01:21:45,290
area.

1319
01:21:45,470 --> 01:21:47,370
Anyway, all of that is possible.

1320
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:47,630
Okay?

1321
01:21:47,870 --> 01:21:50,250
That part is, Jim, is a 100% recreation.

1322
01:21:51,010 --> 01:21:51,710
Yeah, yeah, no.

1323
01:21:51,970 --> 01:21:55,270
I mean, every last square inch of this recreation can be stored at a table.

1324
01:21:55,690 --> 01:21:57,950
So you can come back for more, you can go back for more money.

1325
01:21:58,290 --> 01:22:03,710
And it's either, it's from 50,000 to 500,000.

1326
01:22:04,690 --> 01:22:08,950
in a grant round. He said probably not this coming year because they need to allocate

1327
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:14,270
some money to a certain project, but maybe in a year or two the town will be ready to

1328
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:18,490
apply for more money. So that was actually very positive. And he thought they would be

1329
01:22:18,490 --> 01:22:23,790
getting even more money into this program. So that was very beneficial.

1330
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:30,230
Anyway, so we didn't really get any feedback whether we were in compliance or other compliance,

1331
01:22:30,230 --> 01:22:36,410
But it seems like we're in compliance and then I didn't I couldn't go with them when they went to these pocket parks

1332
01:22:36,410 --> 01:22:36,950
but

1333
01:22:37,790 --> 01:22:42,830
The program director gave me these three signs to put on he says we're supposed to have these signs up

1334
01:22:42,830 --> 01:22:45,910
So I went around today between I and we put signs up.

1335
01:22:48,170 --> 01:22:49,310
I just wanted to give me an update

1336
01:22:51,250 --> 01:22:57,890
I don't know. I seem to guess has to report they have not yet because the only thing that we ever did at those was we

1337
01:22:59,930 --> 01:23:02,030
Trees had fallen down on neighbor's properties

1338
01:23:02,150 --> 01:23:08,610
they're likely to get your tree up. So we had to hire a tree company on one of them to go out there and do a little large

1339
01:23:08,610 --> 01:23:16,070
time to really break in or something. There's slightly, there's actually a third, there's a, like if you look at the, hold on,

1340
01:23:16,130 --> 01:23:22,270
let me go back. So if you look on the left again, you see up at River Bend where it comes off,

1341
01:23:23,090 --> 01:23:29,770
Yeah, it comes off of Packers Falls. There's the little orange park, which is this other, this one of the signs.

1342
01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:34,750
But then if you go further down there's another one and I didn't have a sign for that

1343
01:23:34,750 --> 01:23:39,290
So I don't I don't quite know what these parks were supposed to be. Yeah, there's a pull-up

1344
01:23:39,290 --> 01:23:46,170
The town Moses the most walkway to the river the neighbor kids. I think keep it open

1345
01:23:46,850 --> 01:23:51,430
So for me, these are like neighborhood parks and we at some point I think should have a neighborhood

1346
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:52,870
outreach to say

1347
01:23:53,370 --> 01:23:58,630
You guys want to manage these parks because we don't we don't really do them a very good job with them

1348
01:23:59,770 --> 01:24:03,910
It might not be a bad idea to invite them here to see what they might like the park to be like.

1349
01:24:04,090 --> 01:24:04,650
Yeah, exactly.

1350
01:24:05,170 --> 01:24:05,810
We could facilitate them in any way.

1351
01:24:07,330 --> 01:24:08,850
Maybe they'd say, we like it the way it is.

1352
01:24:09,330 --> 01:24:11,790
Maybe they'd say, we like it the way it is.

1353
01:24:14,350 --> 01:24:19,890
Anyway, I just wanted to update because there was a connection to that area in these LWCF.

1354
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:29,440
There's no association, although we have to like literally reach out to some of the

1355
01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:41,440
But if you think about if we do the false book thing, maybe part of that process is a facilitated process

1356
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:45,740
like the Regional Planning Commission comes in and does a facilitated process and maybe that's when we reach out.

1357
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,180
Because these are all, they're sort of all in close proximity to one another.

1358
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:56,940
So maybe there's this outreach to this neighborhood about this, but also about what we're thinking about for the greater false book area.

1359
01:24:56,940 --> 01:24:58,600
It seems like it all ties together.

1360
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:04,720
It would be neat to have that part of the river as always like pull it down trees and whatnot,

1361
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:10,200
but one of them would be a neat spot to drop a kayak and then otherwise a portion of the

1362
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:10,680
gaskets.

1363
01:25:11,380 --> 01:25:16,140
It's like the widest, deepest portion of the gaskets before it dumps over the dam.

1364
01:25:17,060 --> 01:25:22,620
But it's just often hard to navigate, but you can go from the dam up to the falls

1365
01:25:22,620 --> 01:25:24,460
and up towards Grand Road, right?

1366
01:25:25,580 --> 01:25:28,320
It's a wild area, so you have to decide, you know, do you want to?

1367
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:29,640
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1368
01:25:29,780 --> 01:25:33,680
They may say, oh, we want a little wild area fish or something.

1369
01:25:33,860 --> 01:25:34,140
Right, right.

1370
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:38,230
Okay.

1371
01:25:38,410 --> 01:25:43,630
In the memo, you've talked the riverbend and it, well, it's broke, but the middle one,

1372
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:45,710
the bike racks, I don't think you addressed that one.

1373
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:45,990
Oh, yeah.

1374
01:25:46,250 --> 01:25:46,650
So that's it.

1375
01:25:46,730 --> 01:25:47,610
Yes, I told you I hadn't.

1376
01:25:47,650 --> 01:25:49,410
I'm feeling that one could be actionable.

1377
01:25:49,710 --> 01:25:49,890
Yeah.

1378
01:25:50,230 --> 01:25:52,570
So, I went to New American Cares Day.

1379
01:25:52,630 --> 01:25:53,090
It was interesting.

1380
01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:58,210
We were out of Heron Point and I was telling the students about the Gates law, you know,

1381
01:25:58,210 --> 01:25:58,770
this problem.

1382
01:26:01,050 --> 01:26:03,590
And one of them said, oh, well we bike over here. I think they also

1383
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:06,470
biked on the trails, but we'll leave that. But anyway, they used to bike over

1384
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:11,210
there. But then I got to thinking, well, because it's a long way to walk, maybe

1385
01:26:11,210 --> 01:26:14,270
the people would want to bike over there, but we don't have any bike racks in any

1386
01:26:14,270 --> 01:26:18,530
of our conservation areas. So I thought it might be worth thinking about, I

1387
01:26:18,530 --> 01:26:22,090
thought about, we can farm a bike rack, I thought about Piscassero-Rollezelle,

1388
01:26:22,450 --> 01:26:26,670
but we could start, Heron Point seems like an ideal place for a bike rack

1389
01:26:26,670 --> 01:26:30,170
because there's no way I mean then you can bike over there from downtown you get

1390
01:26:30,170 --> 01:26:38,070
there quicker yeah yeah so I just went on the line and looked up a couple

1391
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:43,110
different kinds of bike racks just to see what they cost and so yeah here's two

1392
01:26:43,110 --> 01:26:46,970
versions one is apparently you can get eight bikes and one you can get seven

1393
01:26:46,970 --> 01:26:52,310
bikes and different costs I think this would have to come out of our

1394
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:58,210
conservation fund. I don't think we have, we could go to the Lampere Advisory Committee

1395
01:26:58,210 --> 01:27:01,370
but I think it would be weird just to ask them for a bike rack when it's this amount of money

1396
01:27:01,370 --> 01:27:04,270
and they just gave it $100,000. Yeah, I think we gave it $100,000.

1397
01:27:04,430 --> 01:27:08,670
What about the record? The brand of the rally? Does it help by the...

1398
01:27:08,670 --> 01:27:13,970
I thought about that too. Yeah, I mean I cannot see if she would pay for this

1399
01:27:13,970 --> 01:27:17,450
or split it or something. Yeah, maybe we could split the cost.

1400
01:27:17,450 --> 01:27:19,810
How are they affixed to the ground?

1401
01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:22,130
That's her.

1402
01:27:25,930 --> 01:27:29,550
Yeah, that's what I was wondering too. But there's got to be ways, because there's

1403
01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:32,630
bike racks all over the wingland that are in woods and stuff.

1404
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:37,890
I think the one on the right, it's probably

1405
01:27:37,890 --> 01:27:38,250
a pole.

1406
01:27:40,770 --> 01:27:43,350
It's like a state in the ground.

1407
01:27:44,590 --> 01:27:47,050
I think the whole goes way up in it.

1408
01:27:48,970 --> 01:27:50,710
She didn't a part of the bike ride either.

1409
01:27:51,670 --> 01:27:53,610
She didn't a part of the bike ride either.

1410
01:27:54,530 --> 01:28:00,230
Well, I'd like to see us take action on this and pursue it.

1411
01:28:00,430 --> 01:28:05,030
And eventually I would say, Todd, let's go talk about just buying them and doing it.

1412
01:28:05,090 --> 01:28:10,450
We need something that shows people where these things can have like big numbers, like 100,000.

1413
01:28:10,450 --> 01:28:15,390
And this and that, this and that, but this is something that some of these there too probably have these by sick people

1414
01:28:15,390 --> 01:28:18,290
using bikes and parking bikes by the fall.

1415
01:28:18,970 --> 01:28:24,130
Maybe we could talk to Rec and say we could buy one for a hair and point, maybe you could buy one for Shannon Park.

1416
01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:29,050
And I might want to, maybe there's other places, maybe we need a bit of an assessment because

1417
01:28:29,530 --> 01:28:32,070
I don't know if there's a deal if you buy more or something.

1418
01:28:32,370 --> 01:28:37,250
There might, whoever you get them from, might have a deal on five or something and we have five spots

1419
01:28:37,250 --> 01:28:39,170
that the town could use bike racks at.

1420
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:41,990
Even downtown out in that new little parker.

1421
01:28:42,510 --> 01:28:43,230
What did we do?

1422
01:28:43,310 --> 01:28:45,050
Because I'm not sure we're ready to know

1423
01:28:45,050 --> 01:28:45,790
which one we want to buy.

1424
01:28:45,950 --> 01:28:46,150
Yeah.

1425
01:28:46,230 --> 01:28:47,970
We just say, you know, I can talk to Amy

1426
01:28:47,970 --> 01:28:50,390
and check around town to see where we already have bike racks.

1427
01:28:50,710 --> 01:28:53,590
I would talk to Facilities Manager of the School District,

1428
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:55,790
because Nancy Miller, the phys ed teacher there,

1429
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:58,330
just bought a couple of bike racks for the schools.

1430
01:28:58,870 --> 01:29:00,430
Yeah, I would definitely talk to her.

1431
01:29:00,690 --> 01:29:03,710
So Nancy Miller and David Riley are good people to talk to

1432
01:29:03,710 --> 01:29:05,490
about that if you're looking for the schools.

1433
01:29:05,730 --> 01:29:06,530
I know we have a couple.

1434
01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:10,850
I know they're not permanent, so we kind of moved them around depending on what's happening

1435
01:29:10,850 --> 01:29:13,650
at school and stuff like that, so I think they would be good people to talk to.

1436
01:29:13,650 --> 01:29:13,970
Okay.

1437
01:29:14,030 --> 01:29:14,790
What about, do you know what you're talking about?

1438
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:16,290
And they would know some ins and outs.

1439
01:29:16,290 --> 01:29:20,210
I think we have these ones on the left, just because they're portable, so we could

1440
01:29:20,210 --> 01:29:20,770
kind of move them.

1441
01:29:21,210 --> 01:29:25,590
I know when we, our environments team hosted bike slash walk to school day, it kind

1442
01:29:25,590 --> 01:29:28,850
of just encouraged people walking and biking to school.

1443
01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:32,650
We used those and brought them out front so that more people could park their scooters

1444
01:29:32,650 --> 01:29:33,110
and bikes.

1445
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:37,270
And I know that kids who can't drive a lot of middle schoolers use them all around town.

1446
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:38,190
I see them all the time.

1447
01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:40,230
Practicing safety?

1448
01:29:40,710 --> 01:29:41,010
Sure.

1449
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:47,250
But I think it's definitely a great use of money if we do invest in it.

1450
01:29:47,330 --> 01:29:51,250
I know a lot of kids use that to get around town, especially during the summer months.

1451
01:29:51,370 --> 01:29:53,950
I think it would be a really good thing to add.

1452
01:29:54,630 --> 01:29:56,190
Like they're going to the town.

1453
01:29:56,190 --> 01:29:59,290
Part of the master plan, they wanted these wave-finding maps.

1454
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,960
So it would show where bike racks are, where parking is.

1455
01:30:02,660 --> 01:30:05,760
And talking to Nancy or other people at the school,

1456
01:30:05,940 --> 01:30:08,880
they could probably tell you all the secret ins and outs of when it says,

1457
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,380
like, this gauge metal or whatever.

1458
01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:15,020
They also might know, like, this is our vendor, we've just got six, you know,

1459
01:30:15,180 --> 01:30:16,720
we add on three more, whatever it is.

1460
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:21,060
I even know that people bike to the Piscacic Greenway New Market,

1461
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,300
then they just leave their bikes on the kiosk there behind them.

1462
01:30:26,220 --> 01:30:29,440
So I don't know if that'd be SELT or us.

1463
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:30,720
They'll be SELT, probably.

1464
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:38,060
Okay, so we'll investigate where we already have them, where we might want them,

1465
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:42,100
and whether school would recommend getting more information from them.

1466
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,240
Then we can come back in July and see if we want to.

1467
01:30:44,300 --> 01:30:48,080
It'd be so fun to do it in July because I'm just picturing beautiful September day.

1468
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,260
We have shorts, but a hoodie.

1469
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,540
Is there one at the rail trail down by Ashwalt Road?

1470
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:58,960
Not anymore, it's changed because of the building and the new owner

1471
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:01,760
and where you can park and access the rail trail.

1472
01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:04,140
I think depending on the owners and stuff like that,

1473
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,140
I think that would be another good place to put that as well.

1474
01:31:07,260 --> 01:31:09,360
Depending on if we're able to do that.

1475
01:31:11,430 --> 01:31:14,070
Alright, I'll do a little recon.

1476
01:31:15,470 --> 01:31:16,130
Bike around town.

1477
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:28,110
So people choose the walk path instead of biking in, I don't think that's a good point.

1478
01:31:28,690 --> 01:31:30,770
That is some action on one of your middle items.

1479
01:31:31,010 --> 01:31:33,410
I have one more I have to add, sorry.

1480
01:31:35,250 --> 01:31:41,090
Okay, so as part of the Heron Point Sanctuary Boundary Survey, there were a couple of places

1481
01:31:41,090 --> 01:31:42,790
which we completed and I'll set.

1482
01:31:42,790 --> 01:31:49,730
There were a couple spots though where the monuments are flush and they're like in grass and or they're

1483
01:31:50,330 --> 01:31:52,230
They're visible to the community there

1484
01:31:52,230 --> 01:31:57,070
And right now they're just marked with grade stakes and apparently the grade stakes are starting to disappear

1485
01:31:57,070 --> 01:31:59,510
Which is which happens if you just rely on grade stakes

1486
01:32:00,270 --> 01:32:03,350
But so we don't lose, you know, we paid a lot of money for boundary surveying

1487
01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:07,530
So we don't lose track of where those monuments are and so the people living there know where they are

1488
01:32:07,530 --> 01:32:08,550
there's about

1489
01:32:08,550 --> 01:32:11,670
I think there's about eight of those.

1490
01:32:12,050 --> 01:32:13,970
The rest are in stone walls and rebar and stuff,

1491
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:15,230
so we don't need to worry about those.

1492
01:32:15,870 --> 01:32:18,670
But these eight, I think, could use

1493
01:32:19,290 --> 01:32:20,970
more permanent survey markers.

1494
01:32:21,190 --> 01:32:22,670
And if you look at on the right,

1495
01:32:23,650 --> 01:32:25,890
well, the marker in the middle is carbonate.

1496
01:32:26,050 --> 01:32:27,050
Can you explain what it is?

1497
01:32:27,330 --> 01:32:28,030
It's carcinite.

1498
01:32:28,230 --> 01:32:28,590
Carcinite.

1499
01:32:28,890 --> 01:32:31,210
It's basically, it's basically fiberglass.

1500
01:32:31,370 --> 01:32:31,770
Fiberglass.

1501
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:33,130
And it's, yeah.

1502
01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:34,850
It's flexible, and it's sturdy.

1503
01:32:34,850 --> 01:32:37,390
It's flexible in one direction, or it's, yeah.

1504
01:32:37,390 --> 01:32:38,850
Yeah, not the latter of it.

1505
01:32:39,390 --> 01:32:43,770
And it's, you don't, yeah, I mean, I don't know that it's the,

1506
01:32:44,330 --> 01:32:45,790
you don't want to touch it with your bare hands

1507
01:32:45,790 --> 01:32:48,250
because the surface gets a little splintery

1508
01:32:48,250 --> 01:32:49,710
and you get some pepperglass splinters from it,

1509
01:32:49,710 --> 01:32:51,050
which is why I use leather gloves

1510
01:32:51,050 --> 01:32:52,990
and that and driver for the things.

1511
01:32:54,530 --> 01:32:58,950
But they last, I mean, they'll last virtually forever

1512
01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:02,570
because it's like five second fiberglass or whatever.

1513
01:33:05,470 --> 01:33:09,170
they wouldn't, you know, they're just witnesses to the marker so you can find them later.

1514
01:33:09,670 --> 01:33:14,950
But they, I don't know, Ellen and I were talking, they come in brown as well, and if you have

1515
01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:21,050
ever been out behind at the, is it Rockingham, at the Rockingham Golf Course subdivision

1516
01:33:21,050 --> 01:33:26,990
that they put in, there's we, the conservation commission, I believe, asked to have them

1517
01:33:26,990 --> 01:33:29,750
installed along the Lutland-Buffer boundary.

1518
01:33:30,210 --> 01:33:35,430
So there's brown ones out there, if you know someone who happened to be, they might be in their backyard if they're on the wetland side.

1519
01:33:37,090 --> 01:33:40,350
And we got custom decals that say like buffer area.

1520
01:33:41,450 --> 01:33:44,790
I believe there's like a picture of a leaf or any form or something like that.

1521
01:33:44,850 --> 01:33:46,990
You can get a custom decal that you can design on the website.

1522
01:33:47,910 --> 01:33:49,510
They're not super cheap.

1523
01:33:49,510 --> 01:33:59,090
No, so they're about $33 a piece, plus the decal which might be $40 a piece, $50 a piece.

1524
01:33:59,250 --> 01:34:03,630
But if you look at the picture on the right is out at Anastrom Conservation Eastmen, so

1525
01:34:03,630 --> 01:34:05,890
there's a whole bunch of them that we're putting in as part of that.

1526
01:34:06,050 --> 01:34:07,970
So those are marking also some buffer.

1527
01:34:09,230 --> 01:34:09,970
Use areas.

1528
01:34:10,490 --> 01:34:11,070
Use areas.

1529
01:34:11,370 --> 01:34:12,390
And so that's what those look like.

1530
01:34:12,450 --> 01:34:15,390
So those were, I think, just standard ones bought, really made.

1531
01:34:15,710 --> 01:34:17,510
Yeah, those are standard ones that we just bought.

1532
01:34:17,510 --> 01:34:22,450
And they do ship in from, like, Wisconsin, so there's a fair amount of shipping costs.

1533
01:34:23,150 --> 01:34:27,310
Yeah, but I think this is something we should do, this is something I think we should do sooner or later,

1534
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:29,110
because I think those great states are going to disappear.

1535
01:34:30,250 --> 01:34:34,230
And so I would suggest we buy...

1536
01:34:34,230 --> 01:34:37,190
They're extremely hard to pull out of the ground, even without,

1537
01:34:37,470 --> 01:34:40,830
so you know how they, on the website they sell these little anchor things,

1538
01:34:41,690 --> 01:34:43,510
which make them even harder to pull out.

1539
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:50,710
It's like a barb essentially, but I tell you, I've had to try to pull a few out before,

1540
01:34:50,990 --> 01:34:52,510
and I just couldn't do it.

1541
01:34:52,890 --> 01:34:59,030
So I don't know, maybe it's worth buying the anchors, I don't know, if the soil is wet

1542
01:34:59,030 --> 01:35:02,750
and soft it would probably be easy to pull them out, if it's rocky at all they start

1543
01:35:02,750 --> 01:35:05,130
to splinter and they just get completely stuck in the ground.

1544
01:35:07,630 --> 01:35:10,650
So if you think it's going to be in someone's yard that's like manicured that's not

1545
01:35:10,650 --> 01:35:14,710
rocks in the ground and a bunch of junk down there to make it and put the

1546
01:35:14,710 --> 01:35:17,750
plot might want to get the anchors if you're worried about them disappearing.

1547
01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:22,610
So if you think, if one is $32.50 plus we have to have the decals

1548
01:35:22,610 --> 01:35:26,890
plus the anchors plus shipping, what do you think, I think it'll be like $50 a piece?

1549
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:30,770
I think so. We always get the thin line. The thin line ones are the ones

1550
01:35:30,770 --> 01:35:34,710
that I know the best and they're usually like $72

1551
01:35:34,710 --> 01:35:38,530
or something delivered about approximately. For one?

1552
01:35:39,470 --> 01:35:42,490
They're probably about $60, $61.00 or $60,000.00.

1553
01:35:42,490 --> 01:35:44,550
For one. They're costing out ones. Okay.

1554
01:35:45,210 --> 01:35:48,630
Were you thinking to put them, so if you go down the driveway on the right-hand side,

1555
01:35:49,230 --> 01:35:54,990
through the woods there, where there's like the scattered iron pipes and no other boundary evidence over there?

1556
01:35:56,170 --> 01:35:58,350
No, so if I'm sorry, I don't know.

1557
01:35:58,430 --> 01:35:59,550
Only in people's yards, I guess.

1558
01:35:59,830 --> 01:36:02,930
Yeah, so if you go, so this place is what I was thinking,

1559
01:36:03,070 --> 01:36:06,630
if you go in Meadow Drive off of a road and you take the first left,

1560
01:36:06,630 --> 01:36:11,030
which is we don't typically go over there. But if you go over there, around the bend, we have a 50-foot strip that comes out.

1561
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:17,930
So that's the area that we don't make trails in. But there's two that are right in that grass, and those are the ones that are starting to take down.

1562
01:36:18,490 --> 01:36:25,450
And we kind of need the community to know that's town property right there. So I think those we should have one there, one there.

1563
01:36:25,570 --> 01:36:30,930
There's two. And then if you keep going on that road in the bends, there's the private driveway that goes back.

1564
01:36:30,930 --> 01:36:35,510
and they're dumpster for the Heron Point communities right there and there's two

1565
01:36:35,510 --> 01:36:40,350
flush miners right behind that and I think we should and there's two right in

1566
01:36:40,350 --> 01:36:44,970
the pavement it's kind of a funky boundary right there but then there's two

1567
01:36:44,970 --> 01:36:49,650
right behind the dumpster so I thought we should have two there and then over

1568
01:36:49,650 --> 01:36:55,670
on the easement into Heron Point sanctuary there are four corners to mark

1569
01:36:55,670 --> 01:36:58,330
where the easement is for us to get into Heron Point sanctuary.

1570
01:37:01,790 --> 01:37:02,810
I think it sounds

1571
01:37:02,810 --> 01:37:06,530
it ties in nicely too. Oh yeah, by the way, we'd like to put some bicycle racks in.

1572
01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:16,310
Yeah. The only thing, I like the idea of putting them in there. The only thing I just, with the neighbors saying,

1573
01:37:16,390 --> 01:37:20,070
I don't want this thing in my yard, like if it's like literally in someone's yard,

1574
01:37:20,370 --> 01:37:25,390
and that's why I was suggesting brown instead of the orange is pretty bright.

1575
01:37:25,570 --> 01:37:30,210
It does get, they do fade a little bit over time. The orange ones do anyway.

1576
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:34,930
or just such a danger with a Robinson kind of a sign though you know yeah I

1577
01:37:34,930 --> 01:37:39,170
was just thinking about the brightness of the yeah even the survey marker or

1578
01:37:39,170 --> 01:37:44,490
whatever you decide to put on the sticker yeah I mean we won't have to we

1579
01:37:44,490 --> 01:37:47,650
could say please not we don't say like please do not disturb or something we

1580
01:37:47,650 --> 01:37:52,610
could say I was thinking we could put me the town seal and say something about

1581
01:37:52,610 --> 01:37:58,030
Barney marker is it I think that I think they would know even if it was

1582
01:37:58,030 --> 01:38:02,670
just the town seal, do you think folks would go like, oh, okay? Or do you think I'd have

1583
01:38:02,670 --> 01:38:08,310
to say boundary? I don't even know the boundary we'd be requiring. I mean maybe. Because you

1584
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:12,210
really want it there to find the pipe later. Yeah, that's a good example.

1585
01:38:15,930 --> 01:38:16,690
We can figure

1586
01:38:16,690 --> 01:38:20,870
that out. I could talk to Judy, the site manager, and say, you know, we're gonna

1587
01:38:20,870 --> 01:38:26,190
make these what you think would be appropriate language. Because sometimes people want

1588
01:38:26,190 --> 01:38:31,850
And, you know, they have a whole community there, and sometimes they want, yeah, we should

1589
01:38:31,850 --> 01:38:35,470
have that there to show people where the boundaries, and they actually want it there.

1590
01:38:36,170 --> 01:38:37,050
Yeah, yeah.

1591
01:38:37,210 --> 01:38:37,950
No, I think it's good.

1592
01:38:38,170 --> 01:38:44,390
It's just some folks in New York, and I know that there's, when we were installing tags

1593
01:38:49,630 --> 01:38:57,190
at where New Roots was out there when we were concerned about tags facing, like on the edges,

1594
01:38:57,510 --> 01:39:01,490
like there's a stone wall and it's like, we need a tag to say it's conservation easement,

1595
01:39:01,670 --> 01:39:03,650
it's a stone wall, it's here, they can see it.

1596
01:39:04,510 --> 01:39:07,170
We need this post here and we're going to put it there in the yard.

1597
01:39:08,530 --> 01:39:11,670
They can see it, probably know what it means.

1598
01:39:15,210 --> 01:39:19,070
I just like to try to be as intrusive on people's visuals.

1599
01:39:19,250 --> 01:39:25,780
I mean it is a little intrusive there. I mean I guess I know people still want to talk about it.

1600
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:31,300
I guess the purpose is that you want it there so people see it and they stay off of it

1601
01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:32,780
or you just want to be able to find the pipe later.

1602
01:39:32,900 --> 01:39:35,300
I don't think as long as you don't even know where it is because

1603
01:39:37,470 --> 01:39:38,210
you lose track of it.

1604
01:39:38,250 --> 01:39:42,910
Like the four, the ones out at Nonstrum Farm, the four around the exclusion area,

1605
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:43,750
we have no idea where they are.

1606
01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:51,470
Yeah, so we had a client. I had a client once that put rocks on all of the lock corners

1607
01:39:51,470 --> 01:39:56,490
in the subdivision. I'd just suggest if you put rocks there and make sure they're big enough

1608
01:39:56,490 --> 01:40:02,150
people can't move them and they're not on top of the monument itself. They're like

1609
01:40:02,150 --> 01:40:05,910
adjacent to it. And they mow it. So then those would be in the way of mowing. I don't

1610
01:40:05,910 --> 01:40:12,610
know. I like the idea of having something there because, you know, like nobody's known

1611
01:40:12,610 --> 01:40:18,630
most pipes have been there for 30 years probably? I still think these like, I don't find them because

1612
01:40:18,630 --> 01:40:24,250
I've looked at these on this, on the Austrian property, they don't seem, I mean they seem fine to me.

1613
01:40:24,970 --> 01:40:29,910
Is there a way to make it be that the post is not like when you walk like that looks like it's more

1614
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:35,990
like high height, is there a way to make it just be that fiber, that material is on a much

1615
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:39,950
smaller post? Well that's, well that's, you can get a shorter one, about 60 inches.

1616
01:40:42,030 --> 01:40:42,510
There's a

1617
01:40:42,510 --> 01:40:43,210
in the ground, what a foot?

1618
01:40:44,430 --> 01:40:45,090
Maybe two.

1619
01:40:45,570 --> 01:40:46,550
It would stick up like three feet.

1620
01:40:46,590 --> 01:40:47,450
So then it would be up three feet.

1621
01:40:47,550 --> 01:40:48,250
So we get the shorter ones?

1622
01:40:48,430 --> 01:40:49,290
Yeah, get the shorter ones.

1623
01:40:49,330 --> 01:40:53,610
I think that kind of marries the concern or the interest you have in property owners,

1624
01:40:53,610 --> 01:40:56,470
and it's not obtrusive, and the interest you have to protect it,

1625
01:40:56,470 --> 01:40:59,550
which helps everybody understand each other's new thoughts.

1626
01:41:00,170 --> 01:41:02,410
I know that when we did shop on our part,

1627
01:41:02,630 --> 01:41:05,570
we put in a grant of posts as part of that project.

1628
01:41:05,570 --> 01:41:06,530
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1629
01:41:07,570 --> 01:41:13,650
And then, you know, there's always the option of going with, you know, like a cedar post

1630
01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:20,010
that's putting it behind it that looks more natural and maybe doesn't mean it would be

1631
01:41:20,010 --> 01:41:20,330
fine.

1632
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:21,770
I like these.

1633
01:41:22,170 --> 01:41:22,490
Trust me.

1634
01:41:22,670 --> 01:41:23,790
I said it all the time.

1635
01:41:23,970 --> 01:41:24,690
They last forever.

1636
01:41:25,090 --> 01:41:26,470
They're impossible to pull out of the ground.

1637
01:41:26,610 --> 01:41:28,010
They like check all the boxes.

1638
01:41:28,590 --> 01:41:34,870
It's just if you're in someone's garden and not in the woods or something.

1639
01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:40,270
You don't usually see them like adjacent to the street. Okay, that's a good point. Okay

1640
01:41:43,190 --> 01:41:48,830
What about you said let's let's I propose we buy six and here's the budget I would say yes, you know what I mean

1641
01:41:48,830 --> 01:41:52,050
I wouldn't but what about just putting in a four by four post

1642
01:41:52,750 --> 01:41:53,710
pressure to the post

1643
01:41:57,130 --> 01:41:57,510
cheaper

1644
01:41:58,710 --> 01:42:03,170
Someone could take a saw to either one of those and cut them down. So it doesn't matter. I could cut this car tonight

1645
01:42:04,190 --> 01:42:05,370
Yeah, knock it out. Yeah

1646
01:42:07,790 --> 01:42:16,490
I will say too, on a street edge, if that thing does get broken up on a snow bank or something like that, it's like a gnarly mess of splintered fiberglass.

1647
01:42:17,090 --> 01:42:25,450
Well, that's good to know, because the tube behind the dumpster is where they put snow, and so they could get damaged.

1648
01:42:25,970 --> 01:42:28,970
So why don't we go with maybe just four by four posts?

1649
01:42:29,490 --> 01:42:32,950
like if you were to saw these at her and point all those iron pipes on the

1650
01:42:32,950 --> 01:42:36,970
right-hand side of the driveway I would definitely put them by those because

1651
01:42:36,970 --> 01:42:40,690
they're in the woods yeah yeah and and those are hard to find like there's

1652
01:42:40,690 --> 01:42:47,810
literally nothing around in the part we didn't survey in the part we didn't do

1653
01:42:47,810 --> 01:42:57,810
survey yeah those pipes you and I walked out yeah yo those no okay so

1654
01:42:57,810 --> 01:43:01,030
in a big circle here. What do you derive from this? How much are your 4x4 posts

1655
01:43:01,030 --> 01:43:09,630
pressure treated? Ten bucks? I bought a bunch of cedar on the 24 bucks.

1656
01:43:12,410 --> 01:43:12,710
I believe

1657
01:43:12,710 --> 01:43:22,850
for a four foot 4x4, no 4x4 by 8. Cedar posts? Cedar posts are expensive.

1658
01:43:23,570 --> 01:43:29,980
All right so let's say they're 25 apiece. You said it was 20 for a cedar post?

1659
01:43:29,980 --> 01:43:31,580
I think they were like $26.20.

1660
01:43:31,860 --> 01:43:33,080
That was like actually a year ago.

1661
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:33,760
Three times eight.

1662
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:35,520
We got $250.

1663
01:43:35,940 --> 01:43:38,140
So let's say $250 for some posts for a hand point.

1664
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:39,500
I'll figure out what kind of one.

1665
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:52,140
Okay, makes it easier.

1666
01:43:52,660 --> 01:43:54,240
And then you can even, if you want, you can tag.

1667
01:43:54,440 --> 01:43:55,980
Yeah, we put those little triangles.

1668
01:43:57,060 --> 01:43:59,100
We'll put our, we'll have the little boundary sign.

1669
01:43:59,280 --> 01:43:59,740
We'll put those little.

1670
01:44:01,060 --> 01:44:01,980
Which actually makes it easier.

1671
01:44:02,060 --> 01:44:03,520
You can do it like that and like that and do it properly.

1672
01:44:06,440 --> 01:44:20,540
I also have, you know, as you know, NRCS's standard is basic metal, green metal fence posts with the wings on the bottom, and then the sign is bolted and bolted down.

1673
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,660
I like the idea of the posts better.

1674
01:44:23,660 --> 01:44:24,440
I like the posts better.

1675
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,240
And if we can get cedar posts and it looks nice, we could do that.

1676
01:44:27,780 --> 01:44:30,920
It's similar to the UNH trails in college woods.

1677
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:42,980
All right, just to give some, why don't we say up to $300, that gives some leeway in terms of costs and picking up, and stuff.

1678
01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:45,260
Do you have a motion for that?

1679
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:46,820
I'll make a motion.

1680
01:44:47,480 --> 01:44:48,340
A second.

1681
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:53,380
Okay, any further discussion about cedar posts for boundary marker protection?

1682
01:44:53,380 --> 01:44:54,180
For some kind of posts.

1683
01:44:55,580 --> 01:44:58,260
Any motion about something to do something helpful?

1684
01:44:58,260 --> 01:44:58,740
Yeah.

1685
01:45:00,020 --> 01:45:00,920
All in favor?

1686
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:01,540
Aye.

1687
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,180
Okay, that's unanimous. Thank you.

1688
01:45:04,900 --> 01:45:05,260
All right.

1689
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,880
Thanks for the full circle discussion, because that really feels actually very comfortable

1690
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,760
from a genesis of idea to actuality.

1691
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,540
All right. I think that was my, I shot my wand.

1692
01:45:15,480 --> 01:45:17,480
Okay, going, going, gone Snyder. Good?

1693
01:45:18,060 --> 01:45:18,280
Good.

1694
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:25,740
All right. So the one thing I didn't have labeled for, for Ellen or for further discussion,

1695
01:45:25,740 --> 01:45:30,180
and I'm going to just drill it in here is there is a there will be a budget

1696
01:45:30,180 --> 01:45:35,000
request for the next year out and we're going to talk about that in July so

1697
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:42,340
please decide from Jeff please consider being here or talking before that about

1698
01:45:42,340 --> 01:45:45,620
you're not going to be able to so we can come up with something to make sure

1699
01:45:45,620 --> 01:45:52,700
we get our budget in on time okay so there's treasures update any new

1700
01:45:52,700 --> 01:45:53,720
business from anyone?

1701
01:45:56,860 --> 01:46:02,380
Any closing comments? Turtles are on the move. Turtles are actually

1702
01:46:02,380 --> 01:46:07,600
out there on the move indeed. So our garden gloves, be really careful of driving with garden

1703
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:12,960
gloves in the road. I had tandem, so you know they recommend, you know, if you've got

1704
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:17,060
sand, you can make a sandy area in the air, right? So I've said a hundred times here

1705
01:46:17,060 --> 01:46:22,060
like we haven't made sand box, we took the left of sand and turtles lay eggs every

1706
01:46:22,060 --> 01:46:28,780
every year. The other morning there were two snapping turtles this big, about six

1707
01:46:28,780 --> 01:46:33,420
feet apart. Oh my god. They look like twins laying turtles right

1708
01:46:33,420 --> 01:46:39,500
and just like 15 feet from our house. The third turtle lays eggs in that sandy

1709
01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:40,860
spot this year. Wow.

1710
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,600
I'm gonna put on to talk about in July when are we gonna

1711
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,440
I'm going to clean out all those bird houses at Piscasse-Clauzelle.

1712
01:46:53,380 --> 01:46:58,180
And a reminder that in July we will also have seven rivers to the coast giving us a presentation,

1713
01:46:58,740 --> 01:47:00,320
which they've requested about a half hour.

1714
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,580
That's the looking forward part of the program here.

1715
01:47:04,060 --> 01:47:04,800
Anything else?

1716
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:08,260
Greater go to the group.

1717
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:10,640
Okay.

1718
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,820
Do we have a motion to adjourn?

1719
01:47:14,220 --> 01:47:14,840
So moved.

1720
01:47:15,340 --> 01:47:15,700
Second.

1721
01:47:16,340 --> 01:47:16,580
So.

1722
01:47:17,300 --> 01:47:18,120
Thank you, Jeff.

1723
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:19,320
Seconded Ellen's motion.

1724
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,100
Any discussion about that?

1725
01:47:22,660 --> 01:47:23,760
Okay, saying none.

1726
01:47:24,140 --> 01:47:27,200
Happy evening.

1727
01:47:27,660 --> 01:47:28,080
Summer weather.

1728
01:47:28,380 --> 01:47:28,680
Soon.

1729
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:30,940
Hoping for fireflies.

1730
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:31,540
Pretty soon.