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We've got a full house tonight. Just bear with us. On normal nights, we don't

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really see that many of you, but it's good to have you here. I'm glad you're here.

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Um, one of the things, uh,

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if you, if you yell again, I'm going to have you escort it out.

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So please he's talking as loud as he can.

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We can have the microphones turn up.

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Travis, please turn the microphones up.

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Okay, let's, let's, let's bring it back down.

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we're not here to be controversial or to be mean to anyone. We are here to handle the

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business that is before us tonight and we're going to do that. We're going to do our very best

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to be as respectful to you and we would expect the same.

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I would again call the meeting to order

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and I note that if anyone wishes to address the board that they will be

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afforded three minutes at the appropriate time based on the meeting rules.

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Please be mindful of your time to give others an opportunity to address the

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board. At this time we're going to go into our Pledge of Allegiance and our

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invocation. Hang on just a second let me tell you what we're going to do

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with the invocation. Our commissioner,

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Al Smith, is at home recuperating

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and we're glad that he has joined us

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via Zoom or whatever they call it.

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But he is here and he is also

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our appointed chaplain and I'd like to ask him

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after the Pledge of Allegiance if he would lead us in a word of prayer.

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All right. What'd you say?

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for

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which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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All right. Please remain standing. And if you don't mind, just pray what you hear me.

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I'm trying to talk loud as I can. Can you hear me now?

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Let us pray, righteous God, Lord we come before you tonight as your body, Lord we know that

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we are the church, we pray that you would bless this meeting, bless each one of us who

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are attending the meeting, bless the ones who are on their way, bless the ones who would

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like to be there if they could and bless the ones who don't even care to come, Lord.

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We pray that you will send us to them to take a message of repentance and forgiveness

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And we will be careful to give you all the praise, honor, and the glory because you are worthy and you are able, in Jesus' name, amen.

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You may be seated.

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I do have to say that's one of the first times I've ever been told that you couldn't hear me.

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Because usually folks are saying I'm too loud.

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Let's again the rules governing the commission meeting are available on the

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county's website and on the table in the lobby located outside the meeting room

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doors commissioners are there any announcements or comments from the

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commissioners this time we'll

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go into our regular session the approval of the

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minutes request approval for the minutes from the regular meeting

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session held on April the 1st of 2025. Do I have a motion? Motion to approve.

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Second to motion. I have a motion and second any discussion. All in favor say

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aye. Aye. All right.

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Does any commissioner or staff or our attorney know of any non

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agenda items to be added to the agenda? Mr. Chairman, we do have one item and

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that is to request to cancel and reschedule the upcoming work session

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that was planned for April 22nd until May 6th.

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And we'll vote on that at a later time.

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All right, now it's the time we've...

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I'll make a motion to add that to the supplemental.

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Second.

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I got a motion to second.

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Any further discussion?

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All in favor say aye.

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Carries unanimous.

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We're going into the public hearing.

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this is probably what a lot of you are here for so again remind you that you're

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here those of you that will be speaking you're here to address us and not the

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crowd so please make all your comments to the chair thus the board makes it go

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a lot faster and easier. If you do have comments, please whisper if you have to

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make a comment to someone near you, but we need to keep a decorum in the in the

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meeting. All right. Item number two is a public hearing regarding petition

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number REZ 24-14 filed by North Caledon investors LLC requesting to resume property located along

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State Route 14 and US Highway 29 Weldon Road and Johnston Circle. This is District 3 and 4.

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Our Assistant Community Development Director Mr. Ben Sewell is going to make

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the presentation for the county. Good evening Mr. Chairman and Board of Commissioners.

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Can you gentlemen hear me okay? Yes, I hear you.

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As you have referenced this item before you is rezoning petition 24-014 submitted by North Caledon investors

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and is referred to as Project Peach.

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The subject property is an assemblage of the seven tax parcels that are on the bottom of this slide

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totaling approximately 326 acres.

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The property is currently zoned rural conservation.

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The applicant is requesting to rezone the property to light industrial to develop a data center campus.

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The property is located near the intersection of Highway 29 North and Weldon Road.

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The western portion of the site spans both sides of Johnston Circle.

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As proposed, the development would remove a portion of Johnson Circle whereas currently connects to Highway 29.

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Accordingly, the applicant is planning to abandon that section of Johnson Circle.

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The proposed plan includes a primary and secondary entrance off of Weldon Road as well as a secondary entrance off of Highway 29.

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The site is bound to the southwest by the Palmetto North Industrial Park.

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It is bound to the north by the city of Palmetto with primarily undeveloped property and it

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is bound to the southeast by large estate lots.

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The conceptual site plan submitted with application proposes eight separate data center buildings

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with individual building sizes ranging from 150,000 square feet to around 350,000 square feet.

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In total, the site would include approximately 2.1 million square feet under roof.

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Additionally, the plan indicates a roughly 13-acre pad for an electric substation.

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This substation would be located near the current northern entrance of Johnston Circle and the railroad tracks.

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are photos of the site from that perspective at Johnson Circle looking

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across to the Palmetto Baptist Church. The photo to the bottom left is from the

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Palmetto Baptist Church looking back into the site and the photo at the top

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right is looking north toward the town of Palmetto from that intersection.

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This site is internal to the site approximately where the cul-de-sac

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for Johnson Circle will be implemented if approved and

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this is a photo of the

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site from the Weldon Road perspective. Weldon Road is predominantly overstory

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forest with exception of this drive cut into the site.

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These are proposed

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renderings submitted by the applicant of what the development should look

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like after construction.

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As you know amendments to the zoning map are

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reviewed by 14 standards under Article 29.

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Staff has chosen to highlight four standards that are most

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applicable to this application.

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According to the comprehensive plan, the subject property is

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located within the priority development character area and

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lies within the growth priority tier as shown on the growth

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strategy map.

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Number two, the priority development character

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area indicates that new development should be

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designated with multiple entry points to avoid creating

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stress on high traffic roads. It is important to ensure that water sewer and

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road infrastructure are provided concurrently with the development. Most

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of the permitted uses within the light industrial district would not be

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supported in these character areas. Number three, the growth priority tier

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indicates that existing communities should be protected from adverse

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impacts of new development with greater intensity of land use. It

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recommends that industrial development should occur in existing industrial

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districts where necessary improvements are already in place. Based upon the

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above information, the comprehensive plan does not support the industrial

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zoning for this area. However, it's important to note that when the

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comprehensive plan was adopted in 2021, data centers were only beginning

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to emerge as a topic of discussion in the county and were not

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significant considerations in land use planning.

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Should this board choose to

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approve the rezoning request, community development submits the following 21

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conditions for consideration. I'm going to try to read these as quick as

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possible and you gentlemen feel free to stop me if you have any questions as

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we go along and I'm going to see if I can minimize Commissioner Smith so that

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I can read the conditions in verbatim.

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Number one, the subject property shall be conditionally zoned for a data center operation.

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Number two, all Calvary to County Code of Ordinances shall be adhered to unless a variance is granted through the normal review process.

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Number three, the developer shall donate right of way from PID 1177065005 to allow for the relocation of Palmatta Tyrone Road at its intersection with Weldon Road

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from its current location to a 0.220 feet east of the existing intersection.

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The developer shall also contribute $1 million to the county to be used for the design and

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construction of the intersection relocation and intersection improvement project.

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Number four, intersection and stopping site distance that meets AASHTO requirements

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must be provided for proposed driveway A. A left turn lane and right turn lane will

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be required on Weldon Road at Driveway A. Number five, the developer shall contribute

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$25,000 towards the cost of signal timing modifications at the intersection of Collins

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Worth Road and Tingle Lane. Number six, construction traffic to and from the development

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or associated with the development shall not utilize Johnson Circle to travel to or from

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the development tract.

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Excuse me. Number seven, if traffic issues arise during construction

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of the project due to construction traffic. The developer shall design and construct left

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and right turn lanes at Site Driveway B along Weldon Road. Site Driveway B shall remain gated

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after construction. Number eight, the proposed rejection lane at Site Driveway A shall be

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constructed as a one-way drive to accommodate outbound traffic only. Number nine, the developer

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shall design and construct a cul-de-sac at the intersection of Johnston Circle and

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the portion of Johnson Circle within the property shall

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be abandoned by the county.

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The developer shall donate right-of-way for future maintenance of the cul-de-sac.

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The proposed emergency access to Johnson Circle shall be gated.

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Number 10, the applicant shall coordinate with public works and provide all required

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documentation for the portion of right-of-way abandonment along Johnson Circle to be

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approved by the Board of Commissioners.

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11. All road improvements shall be constructed prior to the issuance of the first certificate

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of occupancy for the development.

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12. All work within the right-of-way shall meet current Ashto County and GDOT standards.

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13. The developer shall perform all required improvements included in the Greta Notice of

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Decision for DRI no. 4301.

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14. The subject site shall be served by municipal sewer and water.

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Number 15.

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Buffers adjoining all RC zone districts shall be 100 feet.

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A buffer evaluation shall be required to determine if any additional plantings are needed to support the requirements.

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Prior to any planning, the plan must be approved by the Community Development Department.

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The 75-foot setback shown on the conceptual site plan along the property's frontage with

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Highway 29 and Weldon Road shall be maintained as a buffer, as typically required by Article

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25 of the Zoning and Development Ordinance.

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The developer shall work with the development review staff to identify areas where existing

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vegetation is insufficient for effective screening.

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Where deficiencies are found, additional planning shall be installed to ensure

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adequate visual screening from the roadways. This roadway buffer shall extend along the

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entire frontage except at designated entry corridors. Each drive entrance corridor shall

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be no more than 200 feet wide in total measured as 100 feet on each side of the centerline

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of the entrance drive at the right-of-way. Number 17, the permit applicant shall be

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responsible for stormwater management meeting the requirements of Chapter 30. For each

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For each sub-basin and each shall be studied at points where each sub-basin leaves the

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proposed development's property.

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Additionally, it is required that runoff reduction practices be implemented, upgraded from the

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detention retention pond to help avoid maintenance concerns and provide a treatment-train approach

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as intended by the ordinance.

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Number 18, exterior materials shall consist of architectural precast panels complemented by metal panels and glass elements to provide visual contrast as proposed in the rendering submitted with the application.

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To minimize the traffic impact during the construction phase, the developer shall work with staff to provide on-site temporary parking and services for construction employees.

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Such services may include restrooms, food service, and shaded seating areas.

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Number 20, all site and building lighting shall utilize full cutoff fixtures to prevent glare or direct illumination onto adjacent properties and streets.

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And lastly, number 21, the applicant shall obtain a land disturbance permit within 18 months beginning the next business day following approval by the board.

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board. If the applicant fails to do so, the board may initiate rezoning of the property

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back to the Royal Conservation District.

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That concludes staff's presentation. I'll leave

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the site plan up with the driveways marked. If you have any questions for staff, we'll

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be glad to answer them, or we'll pass it along to the applicant.

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Can you bring Mr. Smith back on the screen?

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students to be can you hear me now not not much more than what we did a while

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ago it just I'm trying to work with the volume on this thing okay

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commissioners have any questions they'd like to ask mr. Sewell at this time

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does the applicant wish to speak okay come forward would you please and give to

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the unless you need the computer there okay give give us your name and your

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address or if you are in a particular district if you know that but if you

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don't want to give you a personal address but that's Mr. Chairman members

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of the Commission Commissioner Smith out there in zoom land good to be with all

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of y'all tonight my name is Arthur Edge I'm here on behalf of the

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applicants here this evening North Cali to investors and they're partnering

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with Cyrus I. I live at 118 Pickens Drive, noon in Georgia, 30263. Mr. Sewell did a very

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good job of sort of giving you the highlights of our application. I did want to note just

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for the record before I start that obviously our application is part of the record. I also

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submitted a constitutional letter last week that should be part of the record as well.

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As Mr. Sewell said, this is an application to locate a data center campus on approximately

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326 acres on a site in unincorporated Cavity County.

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The property is adjacent to State Route 29 and Weldon Road, and we are requesting rezoning

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from RC Rural Conservation to LM Light Industrial.

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As noted by Mr. Sewell, upon completion of this project, it will consist of eight

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buildings of approximately 2.1 million square feet. There will be eight data center buildings

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there. I think it's also important for the board to note that this will be a phase construction

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through 2036 as our anticipation. So this will not all be happening at one time, but

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it will of course depend on demand for the data center. The construction value

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you once it is fully built out will be approximately $1 billion.

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That does not include the server equipment that will be housed there but simply the construction

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of the buildings.

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The employee count, we estimate probably about 500 construction jobs being necessary

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for the completion of the data center campus and we've anticipated upon full buildout

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We'll have about 50 full-time jobs in project completion.

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The electrical load will be about 700 megawatts.

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We have already been in discussions and have as much assurance as we can at this point

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from Georgia Power that they will be serving the load.

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Their policy is, as the board may know, not to do anything finalized until the

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rezoning has been approved.

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But we are confident that that will take place and we will be able to secure a letter from

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Georgia Power, verifying they will serve the data center campus.

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The access it was touched upon by Mr. Sewell, primarily off Weldon Road, there will be four

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driveways that will be utilized, some of which for emergency if necessary.

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Utilities I mentioned, the power on the water.

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The water and wastewater will be handled by the Caledon Water and Sewage Authority.

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We'll be looking at building a 2.6 mile line extension to handle this.

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We anticipate that full build out will be talking somewhere between 80 to 100,000 gallons a day of water.

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I also want to state for the board that I think it's very, very important for you to understand

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that this data center campus these buildings will be air-cooled not water

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cooled and so we will not be using the the level of water you often hear

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sometimes referenced in other data center projects and we will not be

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releasing any water into the water supply that has been used to treat these

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these servers and the other equipment in the data centers.

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From a waste

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standpoint, there'll be no hazardous waste generated at the site at full

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build out again through 2036. We anticipated generating about 400 tons

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of waste annually. Now recycling Cyrus one's experience with this last

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year at their other sites, other data center sites, they accomplished a 46

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percent recycling rate and they hope to improve upon that. But so far,

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or that's what they've accomplished.

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That would leave approximately a little over 200 tons annually

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to go to the landfill in 2036.

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And as mentioned, an on-site electrical substation

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is planned as well.

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We have successfully completed the DRI process.

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The conditions that were noted by Mr. Sewell

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are acceptable to the applicants.

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And we fully intend to comply with each and every one of them.

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and we find them reasonable.

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That's a brief overview.

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You're going to hear from some other members very briefly

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from each of our other team members.

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They're going to touch upon the economic impact

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of this project, the taxes that we

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expect to be generated from the project.

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They'll talk about the site plan a little bit,

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the building construction, the materials, and so forth,

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the traffic, and the noise that will be generated.

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and also talk about the cooling that I mentioned previously.

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Just to sum up, we feel like this project fits the general character of the area.

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As was noted, there was an industrial park to the west of the site.

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Again, I'm going to warn you, we don't need any outburst.

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You might think something's funny, you might think something is not funny.

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but keep your comments to yourself as I will instruct folks when you get up to

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speak to also he is speaking to the Commission and I'm asking you very

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politely and as courteous as I can let's be respectful I'm sorry miss. No

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thank you Mr. Chairman there will not be a huge drain on the water resources of the

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county. As a result of this project, we think it will be of immense benefit to the county

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from a job standpoint, a tax standpoint, and really the great thing about a project like

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this, they do generate a lot of jobs and taxes, but they do not require a lot of services

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as a subdivision or some other development might require. So for all these reasons

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we're asking that you grant our application for rezoning, and I'm going to turn, I'll

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Retain the balance of my time and I'll turn it over to some of our team members to talk about these items that I mentioned unless they're questions

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They're gonna they're gonna speak

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We have yes have any that has signed it. Yes, Mr. Chairman. We signed them up. Yes, sir

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Questions, would you call you first?

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Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman of Brad health

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again your name and address or if you

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Brad.

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Brad Hout with Cyrus One, 2850 North Harwood Street, Dallas, Texas.

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Thank you, Chairman.

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Thank you, commissioners.

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Appreciate the time tonight to provide some background on the proposed project here in

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Coyita County.

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So as a matter of introduction, Cyrus One, we're a global data center owner, operator

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and developer based in Dallas, Texas.

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We have 50 locations across the globe.

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We employ over 1,000 people who are tasked with operating, maintaining, and securing these

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data center campuses and the critical information that they store.

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This site we've identified as part of our overall expansion strategy and they've worked to

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develop a campus that we're presenting to you tonight.

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Steve, if you move on to the next slide.

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Our company has a commitment to be carbon neutral by 2030.

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We have full details of that on our website.

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The report is available highlighting all of the different facets that we take to maintain

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sustainability, and again, that's on our website.

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Just the economic headline skin and touch on a lot of these.

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Campuses developed over seven to ten years, $1.1 billion in investment, 49 permanent

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These are jobs that are utilizing people from a variety of backgrounds and skills and expertise in trades.

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500 construction jobs are sustained there over the life cycle of the development, producing $100 million in new tax revenue for the county.

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So diving into the tax revenue for the county, I have a couple additional slides here to highlight the economic impact.

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Steve, if you would.

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on the construction side.

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So non-exempt construction material purchases.

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These are purchases that are not covered

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or not exempted by the state's data center

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and sales use tax exemption.

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Targeting a $500 million material spend,

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there's $15 million in sales taxes there.

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The power that we use is gonna be subject

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to the county's tax rate, utility tax rate.

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And that's estimated at $34 million over 10 years.

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And then the real personal property taxes

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were the first 10 years targeted at $57.2 million.

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And so in that graph to the bottom,

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you see the ramp up of the tax dollars over time

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as we developed this campus.

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Once the campus is in place,

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those tax dollars are sustained

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for the life of the campus.

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And so the economic impact that we create,

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again, has sustained over multiple years.

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Taking further into the property taxes,

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I did split up the impact of the property taxes

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to the county and the school.

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Steve, if you would go to the next one.

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On the left side are all the taxes that I mentioned, and we stabilized at $10.8 million

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in taxes when we're stabilized.

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Of that amount, $2.2 million annually goes to the county, $7.23 annually goes to the schools.

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Over 10 years, that's $38 million to the schools and $11 million to the county.

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And finally, I have one last slide.

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I did want to just mention the non-financial impact.

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And so, we've been in business for 25 years.

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We're good citizens and good neighbors in the communities that we locate in.

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We...

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We have the ability to make a real impact here, not just from our workforce, but our contributions

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to community events and community initiatives. So thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Next, Mr. Chairman, Zach Randolph.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Zach Randolph with Kimley Horan, I'm a civil engineer. So what I wanted

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to do is talk you through the site plan today. As mentioned before, we have eight buildings

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and one substation proposed for this campus. Our primary access point is in the southwest

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less corner along Weldon Road, and then our secondary access point is shown in the southeast

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corner along Weldon Road as well.

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We do have two, I'll say, emergency maintenance access points on US 29, and then where Johnson

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Circle does a cul-de-sac we've put at the end there.

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One thing that I did want to note, as mentioned by Mr. Sewell, is that our intent is to

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abandon a portion of 29 as part of this project.

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Looking at the site layout, we have really tried to focus on pushing the buildings

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towards the center of the site and south of the existing power line that is out there

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today working within the existing stream branches that fall within the site.

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You can see the buffers called out with the dash lines to the middle.

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And then the second thing would be that we're working with the existing topography that's

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present on the site to try to work to shield the buildings and work within the natural

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topography there.

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This is just a landscape rendering of what we think the project will look like.

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I want to highlight that the intent is to place trees throughout the development

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along the roads at the stormwater ponds and then along the front and kind of

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the perimeter of the site. And then these are five sight lines that we've

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cut around the development so looking kind of clockwise starting along Weldon

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Road in the southeast corner is the top one and what I want to highlight here is

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our building which is identified as building eight is actually lower in

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elevation than the adjacent adjacent parcel so what we're doing is putting

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that building low utilizing the existing hundred foot buffer and the

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existing trees off-site to screen the building from the adjacent uses.

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The next two, if we work kind of down those sight lines, are focused on the views from

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across Weldon Road to the development.

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Want to highlight here that we are proposing to include berms and buffers as a way to build

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up the topography in front of these buildings and screen them from the view corridor from

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Weldon Road.

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The fourth one from the top is the view line that does run into the site right at

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the front entrance point.

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So I do want to highlight there that aligns with the condition around a break in the berm

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and buffer for that actual driveway right there.

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And then the fifth one on the bottom is for the sight line from 29 towards the substation.

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What you can see there as well, we're trying to utilize a berm and buffer with some plantings

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to screen the view from the public right of way on the far side of the railroad

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track.

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That's all I have today.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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Thanks.

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Thanks, Mr. Chairman.

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John Walker.

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Hello, John Walker, traffic engineer with the firm Kimley Horn and Associates.

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We're located at 11-720 Amber Park Drive, Alpharetta.

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So due to the size of the development, the square footage, it does fall into the development

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of regional impact, DRI.

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So we did go through the DRI process with the Three Rivers Regional Commission, Greta,

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Georgia DOT, and Coweta County staff.

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One thing I want to point out is the ITE trip generation manual.

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That's a manual that we use across the entire country, tells us that a data center of this

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size would generate 2,080 trips per day.

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That's roughly 1,000 trips in, 1,000 trips out, over 24 hours.

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We have our own internal client here that's Cyrus one.

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It's roughly about 822 daily trips.

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About 60% less traffic than what ITE manual suggests, so I just want to let you know

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that this site will probably generate 60% less than what our traffic study documented,

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but nevertheless we used the higher trip rate per Greta and what was mentioned earlier Mr.

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Sewell talked about the Greta Notice of Decision Attachment A which is a number of improvements

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mentioned and then the staff got that and provided some additional detail to the conditions

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and in summary we are going to create turn lanes at both our site driveways

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on Weldon Road and also we're going to make a monetary contribution for some of the off-site

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improvements. The first one relocation of Palmetto Tyrone Road at Weldon Road

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one million dollar monetary contribution that's per the staff report. We've

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accepted that. The next one signal timing modifications $25,000 again per

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staff report. We've agreed with that that's in the condition. This last one

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I'll bring your attention to it. Turn lane extensions along Highway 29 and

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also at the I-85 exit ramp. Lengthen those turn lanes. There is no

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monetary dollar amount in the staff report. So we're on behalf of the applicant going

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to say up to $500,000 for those off-site improvements since the first two had a dollar

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amount assigned. I felt like we should probably put a dollar amount for that one. Again, up

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to $500,000 for that one as well. One slide for me. That's it. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next, Ms. Chairman, Laurel Cottrell.

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Laurel Cottrell, Director of Environmental Compliance with Cyrus I, 2850 North Hardwood

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Street, Dallas, Texas.

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So environmental noise is what I'm speaking about and to dig right in, first I want to

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talk about our objectives with respect to environmental noise with Project Peach and

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really it's two simple things.

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One make sure we're compliant with noise code requirements and two make sure we're

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a good neighbor.

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These are our objectives wherever we develop across the country and really across the

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And to talk through how we achieve those objectives, I'm going to go through quickly three questions that we commonly receive from community members and people like you all when we go into a new community.

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So with that first question, what will the noise sources even be?

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For us, we're not a heavy industrial source.

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We have very simple buildings with very simple noise sources.

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And those noise sources include one, cooling equipment, and two, emergency generators.

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Our cooling equipment, again, is air-cooled chillers.

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Those chillers have fans and compressors that do generate some noise.

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Our generators are backup emergency generators.

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They run intermittently over the course of the year.

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If there's no power outage, we might expect them to run a total of 10 to 15 hours

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each over the entire year.

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So these two-noise sources are very simple. They're very well constrained.

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00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:53,730
Because they are simple and well constrained, it makes it easy for us to evaluate and mitigate ahead of time like we're doing now.

460
00:36:55,030 --> 00:37:00,050
Next question, how quiet will the data center be? Sometimes this question comes in as how loud will it be,

461
00:37:00,150 --> 00:37:02,530
but I like to rephrase it as how quiet it will be.

462
00:37:02,530 --> 00:37:11,650
I like to use this table which correlates objective decibel limits to subjective how

463
00:37:11,650 --> 00:37:13,970
loud is that type descriptions.

464
00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:21,230
So the short answer to how quiet it will be, it will be quiet or very quiet depending on

465
00:37:21,230 --> 00:37:22,830
how far you are from our facility.

466
00:37:23,530 --> 00:37:27,930
So each of our facilities, if you look at the bracket at the bottom of the table there

467
00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:33,430
where it tends to land in that 60 decibel or less range in the community surrounding

468
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:39,750
our facilities, and obviously that decreases as you increase distance from the facility.

469
00:37:40,210 --> 00:37:43,770
That's based on worst case modeling, max cooling capacity, et cetera.

470
00:37:43,810 --> 00:37:46,370
It's a very conservative planning approach that we use.

471
00:37:47,250 --> 00:37:54,770
The 50 to 60 decibel range at the top of that tends to be where community decibel

472
00:37:54,770 --> 00:37:57,870
limits live for different jurisdictions around the country.

473
00:37:58,250 --> 00:38:02,870
So in terms of trying to meet our good neighbor objectives and code objectives, you know, falling

474
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:06,390
within this bracket really achieves both of those objectives.

475
00:38:08,270 --> 00:38:12,990
And then to tie it together, how we use that information to make sure we're meeting those

476
00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:17,330
objectives for Project Peat specifically, basically we're doing detailed acoustic

477
00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:21,550
studies and making sure we're feeding those acoustic studies back into design,

478
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:26,330
make sure we're checking the box with being good neighbor and being compliant with code requirements.

479
00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:34,840
Thank you. Next, Mr. Chairman, Matt Fortier.

480
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,320
Good evening, commissioners. Matt Fortier

481
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:46,520
with Cyrus 1, 2850 North Harwood Street. I wanted to highlight one of the most important aspects

482
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,020
of data center sustainability. Traditionally, data centers consume millions of gallons of

483
00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:56,840
water annually just for their cooling. This can provide a significant impact on the community

484
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:03,560
and water resources. Our approach at Cirrus One is different and purposely so. At Cirrus One we've

485
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,980
developed a fully closed air loop system that we've deployed across 50 locations within our

486
00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:10,260
portfolio to date.

487
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:16,120
This dramatically reduces the environmental impact when it comes to water.

488
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:22,660
Once our systems are charged we use zero gallons of water annually. That means no makeup

489
00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:32,320
up water, no evaporative cooling, and no secretive draw on the public system.

490
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:39,680
Because it's a close-up system, we're not using chemical treatment to use on the water

491
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,500
or putting that back into the wastewater.

492
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:47,900
The only water we do use at our facilities is for basic occupancy needs such as flushing

493
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:56,420
toilets, sinks, minor humidification, and for our fire sprinkler protection system in

494
00:39:56,420 --> 00:39:57,380
the event of emergency.

495
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,540
These are minimal systems that are standard through commercial and industrial buildings.

496
00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:09,660
We've met with the Water and Sewer Authority to coordinate on these minimal efforts as

497
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,780
well to ensure they're not burdening the current system.

498
00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:17,080
We know that water is one of the most vital resources a community manages.

499
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:20,240
We take that seriously at Cyrus 1.

500
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,680
This is a commitment for us more than just a design principle.

501
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,480
We're proud of this design and the minimal impact it has on the surrounding community.

502
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:36,260
And we hope that it demonstrates in our presentation also the kind of partner we intend to be.

503
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,540
Thank you for John.

504
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:39,660
Thank you.

505
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,960
Mr. Chairman, that concludes those signed up in support.

506
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:45,940
Let's start with opposition.

507
00:40:46,620 --> 00:40:47,000
Absolutely.

508
00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:52,560
Just a reminder, according to your meeting rules, there is 20 minutes for and against.

509
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,840
We have quite a few signed up in opposition, so just to remind those that have signed up,

510
00:40:57,980 --> 00:41:01,120
we will get to where we may exhaust the 20 minutes and I'll let you know.

511
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:02,140
Okay.

512
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,220
First we have Laurie Newsom.

513
00:41:19,780 --> 00:41:21,180
My name is Laurie Newsom.

514
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:25,300
I live at 185 Craigwood Way, Sharpsburg.

515
00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:28,040
Just want to go over a few things.

516
00:41:28,180 --> 00:41:34,660
You started the meeting with no volume, but then you got angry when the crowd has, the

517
00:41:34,660 --> 00:41:39,500
only way they have of telling you that they can't hear you is to express it out loud.

518
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,200
But you got angry about that.

519
00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:45,760
Then you turned on your speaker, but we still, a lot of us still couldn't hear you.

520
00:41:46,180 --> 00:41:49,760
And so they're still telling you that they cannot hear you.

521
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:55,260
And then this lady, I would like to know before I leave here today who she is,

522
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,580
what's her job duty and what's her name.

523
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,260
But she said that if we didn't straighten up, she wanted to start throwing people out.

524
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:08,580
I would like one time in my life to come here to a commission meeting and

525
00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:11,040
see taxpayers treated with respect.

526
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,060
Ma

527
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:22,840
'am, I have tried very much, and I apologize to you that I did not have my microphone on.

528
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,980
They're usually off, and I usually try to check, and I do apologize for that.

529
00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:29,080
And that worked.

530
00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:34,720
But then when you turned it on, we still couldn't hear you, and we had to tell you what to

531
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:35,280
tell you.

532
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:42,480
Me being in charge of sound in many churches that I've served in, I understand that,

533
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:49,260
but a lot of times people expect the correction instantaneously but if you

534
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:53,860
would give me just a second I would have asked our sound folks back there to

535
00:42:53,860 --> 00:42:59,360
adjust it but that's okay let's let's get past that and I apologize for you

536
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,680
feeling like you were being mistreated and I don't intend players were

537
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,360
because everybody that's here is here because they're home and their

538
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,120
community. And we understand that. And we're thinking, oh, I took off, I did a lot of different

539
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:20,240
things to be here. Now I'm not going to be able to hear. I felt the same way. Okay. Okay. So

540
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:25,200
you ran off Dell Web. Dell Web would have. Hang on, hang on just a second. I'm going to ask the

541
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:32,460
clerk if she will reset your three minutes. Okay. Okay. Now you don't have to clap for me. I

542
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:37,200
just want to do the right thing. Okay. Let's just, let's move on. I want to hear what she

543
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:44,080
has to say. Okay. Y'all ran off Dell Web. Dell Web would have brought many wonderful things

544
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:50,880
to our county and even more tax monies, which is something that y'all really seem to like.

545
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,960
You ran off Trinity Christian School. That would have been a wonderful addition to that

546
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:02,240
area, but no, they're gone now, too. And now you want to bring this crap, I'm just

547
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,640
just going to call it into our community.

548
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:07,540
Why are you commissioners?

549
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:14,200
I mean, honestly, I have to ask myself, why would people sit here and oversee this kind

550
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:14,820
of stuff?

551
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:22,040
They could go one or two more counties out west and there's plenty of room where they're

552
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,760
not going to upset anybody.

553
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160
But where they are is right down the street from Holmes.

554
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:32,940
and the daylight, I have seen the data centers in Fayetteville, they're

555
00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:41,200
surrounded by 24-7 daylight. Why? But if they are, that will hit where I live. So

556
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,760
these are things and the water and the utilities they say go up because it's

557
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,960
like never-ending need. So in trying to keep up with the need, the

558
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:59,720
the utilities go up in prices to build more infrastructure to be able to meet these needs.

559
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,880
But these are all things that will mess up our communities. The increase in utility rates,

560
00:45:07,020 --> 00:45:15,100
the 24-7 daylight around the centers, all of these kind of things that would just really

561
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:21,020
be bad. The data centers in Fayetteville are not a good thing because we have sat there

562
00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:27,180
and watched them and we have seen that when those people got to this meeting, it was

563
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:36,280
already done deal. I pray that it's not the case here. Thank you. Thank you.

564
00:45:39,020 --> 00:45:44,680
Before we call the next, would you like to respond to the era that was

565
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:52,280
mentioned about the Dale Webb and also as to the Trinity Christian School and

566
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:57,920
there withdrawal just to correct the. Sure so in terms of Dale Webb that

567
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,480
development was approved by this body so they're under development review at this

568
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,840
time so they they should be moving to construction very soon. Okay. So that that

569
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,680
was approved. In terms of Trinity that conditional use permit was acted on by

570
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,980
the board of zoning appeals it was a recommended denial but the night of the

571
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:19,960
board commission meeting that application was withdrawn so this body

572
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,160
did not take action on it.

573
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:21,700
All right.

574
00:46:21,940 --> 00:46:22,160
Thank you.

575
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:22,740
Yes, sir.

576
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,220
Call your next speaker, please.

577
00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:25,200
Yes, sir.

578
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:26,960
Teresa Thomas-Smith.

579
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:37,740
Warm greetings, commissioners.

580
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,140
My name is Teresa Thomas-Smith.

581
00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:47,020
My residence is 221 Forest Run, Palmetto, Georgia.

582
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:55,380
Tonight, I speak to you as a 21-year resident of Palmetto, Georgia, in Coweeda County.

583
00:46:56,340 --> 00:46:59,600
And with this voice, I speak for four people that reside in my home.

584
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:07,000
But my name and title is Teresa Thomas Smith, Mayor of the Great City of Palmetto.

585
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:14,100
And with this voice, I speak for the 5300 plus people that voted for me to serve them

586
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:19,180
and those outside of the voting district that did not vote for me but also choose to

587
00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:20,160
call Palmetto home.

588
00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:22,240
Many of them are in the room right now.

589
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:29,920
town. For more than 25 years, our small town is finally seeing signs of renewal and a sense

590
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:35,320
of community pride. We're ready to develop. We are ready to grow. We are ready to do some

591
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:41,500
amazing things for our community. This decision would fundamentally offer the character, alter

592
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:47,720
the character of our community. We have no desire to see a massive industrial facility

593
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:50,960
less than one mile from our historic downtown.

594
00:47:53,210 --> 00:48:00,810
As we have heard, data centers bring very few jobs, massive water and energy use, while

595
00:48:00,810 --> 00:48:05,350
they say it's not noise, it still is, and heavy infrastructure demands.

596
00:48:06,590 --> 00:48:14,710
It does not belong in such proximity to our downtown area and our residential neighborhoods.

597
00:48:15,850 --> 00:48:23,330
The conditions that they offered were 21 and not a single one included the name Palmetto

598
00:48:23,330 --> 00:48:24,130
Georgia in it.

599
00:48:24,510 --> 00:48:28,890
That means that we're not being good neighbors and I heard them say good neighbor multiple

600
00:48:28,890 --> 00:48:33,390
times but when you can't even say the neighbor's name I don't know how good of a neighbor

601
00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:34,090
that that is.

602
00:48:35,110 --> 00:48:40,930
Board members on behalf of all of Palmetto ask that you please consider the long term

603
00:48:40,930 --> 00:48:49,150
costs to our quality of life, our environment and our residents, the heart of our community.

604
00:48:50,250 --> 00:48:57,030
The second commandment is love that neighbor. Romans 13 and 10 says, love does no wrong

605
00:48:57,030 --> 00:49:04,130
to a neighbor. Therefore, love is the fulfilling of the law. While I would love to pull everyone

606
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:08,790
sitting over here pushing for this development to see which one has one of these in their

607
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:14,310
neighborhood. I know I don't have time to do that. So what I will do is say that

608
00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:19,430
the people of Palmetto. I'm excuse me, Mayor. Yes, sir. I'm going to remind you

609
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:26,290
again outbursts are not allowed. I'm going to ask the deputies just to sort

610
00:49:26,290 --> 00:49:32,190
of see who's doing it. But I'm not asking anybody to leave. I want you to

611
00:49:32,190 --> 00:49:37,570
hear I want to be a part of the meeting. But folks outbursts because I

612
00:49:37,570 --> 00:49:40,310
I want to hear what the mayor has to say, okay?

613
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:44,670
And in anybody else who walks up there,

614
00:49:45,090 --> 00:49:47,470
I don't want to lose my concentration

615
00:49:48,130 --> 00:49:51,150
and be thinking of something that's going on in the room

616
00:49:51,150 --> 00:49:53,930
other than the business of the county.

617
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:56,010
And mayor, I'm gonna let you finish.

618
00:49:56,250 --> 00:49:57,030
You should give you a like.

619
00:49:57,470 --> 00:49:59,890
With the balance of my time, I would like to say,

620
00:49:59,930 --> 00:50:00,910
well, I can't pull them

621
00:50:00,910 --> 00:50:02,510
and I know that I can't pull you either.

622
00:50:03,070 --> 00:50:04,930
I would say that you do no harm

623
00:50:05,290 --> 00:50:06,510
to your neighbors to the north.

624
00:50:06,510 --> 00:50:10,730
love us as you love yourselves. I wish you peace and blessings. Thank you for your

625
00:50:10,730 --> 00:50:12,690
time, and I yield my time back. Thank you.

626
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,720
Next, Ms. Chairman, Shalandra Henry.

627
00:50:21,820 --> 00:50:22,300
Good

628
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:26,660
evening, Councilman. Thank you for the opportunity to speak before you. I am

629
00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:33,380
Shalandra Henry at 212 Williams Street, Palmetto, Georgia, 30268 Coweta County.

630
00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:37,980
I'm a fifth-generation Palmetto, and I'm both my father and my mother's side.

631
00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:45,260
I'm the great-granddaughter of John Will Thurman, a business man and builder who owned land in Palmetto,

632
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:54,840
Palmetto, Caleta, and Fulton. Our blood, sweat, tears, celebrations, family unions, faith,

633
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:03,280
is literally in the Georgia clay of 30268. 212 William Street is my property, is a small house

634
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:09,960
that I love, that will be my 12 year old daughter's home property once she's of age.

635
00:51:10,780 --> 00:51:14,720
In the initial announcement it was said that the area was undeveloped.

636
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,540
My house and others are directly adjacent to this property.

637
00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:24,440
I can see my neighbors, it's not huge lots, so it is a developed area.

638
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,460
I can see through the trees where this property is going to be, where this development

639
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:30,080
is going to be.

640
00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:34,520
The photos shown don't show the full picture of the community and the area.

641
00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:38,840
This project site, as I said, is directly through the trees.

642
00:51:39,620 --> 00:51:43,820
The exact property, if you have not driven through, is a beautiful property.

643
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,800
I go over there as often as I can. There's a sweet pond, rolling grassy hills.

644
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:56,880
Why would we want to give that up for concrete that will serve as a health and financial burden for our citizens?

645
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:03,400
As you can tell, this is exceptionally personal to me because this is an attack on John Wiltherman's

646
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:09,100
legacy and the future of his descendants, many of whom are in this room tonight.

647
00:52:09,740 --> 00:52:15,940
This project seems to be the epitome of not in my backyard, but it is literally my backyard.

648
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:23,960
I implore you to vote no on this project, therefore supporting the financial and physical

649
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,580
health and well-being of my daughter, my cousins, and the entire community. I'm

650
00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:33,900
asking you all to vote no, but I want to speak directly to Councilman Blackburn

651
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:38,940
and Ridelbach. Please vote with the interest and conscious of your

652
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:44,700
constituents. Please vote no. We may not be multi-millionaires, but our welfare

653
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:48,720
should count for something. Unlike the advocates of this project, we the

654
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:54,120
community do not find the items acceptable. It has been proven that jobs

655
00:52:54,120 --> 00:53:00,500
last only for a short term and property values decrease, representing short term

656
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:05,120
gains for long term negative impacts. And finally, I'm excited to know that the

657
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:11,020
media with at least WSB TV news is here and interested in this in this issue.

658
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,200
Thank you. Thank you. Next, Mr. Chairman, Nathan Slayton,

659
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:27,220
the commissioners.

660
00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:34,460
I had something written that I was going to read, but a lot of it's already been said.

661
00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:39,100
My name is Nathan Slaton, 204 Spring Street, Palmetto, Georgia.

662
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:47,580
I am like Miss Jackson, our family's, I'm a third generation of Garfield Cannon, who

663
00:53:47,580 --> 00:53:53,060
has his family, siblings, and everybody has been part of Newton and Palmetto their

664
00:53:53,060 --> 00:53:53,680
entire life.

665
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,600
And but long probably long before that

666
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,180
We talk about the land that's not developed

667
00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:06,620
I'm gonna back my shacks enough that it is an amazing place if you have the time go up there and ride through the through it

668
00:54:06,620 --> 00:54:12,620
It's a circle. It is nothing but green trees green grass, and it's amazing. There is development back there

669
00:54:12,620 --> 00:54:14,000
There's a house or two back there

670
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:21,040
It's just fun to go and look at God's creation on certain days, and I do it just like she said she does it

671
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,540
It's just a peaceful place

672
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:30,660
What will not be peaceful is leaving church on Sunday morning and see the monstrosity of a power substation.

673
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:39,640
If you want to see what it looks like and you don't know right after Johnson Road where Palmetto has already been inundated with it at the data center there.

674
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:46,200
To the north of us we have on hand probably 12 warehouses.

675
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:53,100
I don't know what's happening to here, but when you leave Atlanta and you drive all the

676
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:58,840
way down through Troop County, Calwita County, the South Fulton County, all you see is warehouses.

677
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,620
It has to be, I'm just trying to figure out where, who's paying who.

678
00:55:04,580 --> 00:55:08,800
It's everywhere, and you're going to landlock us in by nothing but industrial.

679
00:55:09,620 --> 00:55:14,380
I know Calwita like the back of my hand like you do, and I know that there's four

680
00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:18,520
other industrial areas, one that's out on 16, that's a massive undertaking.

681
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:25,260
Why don't these people go and buy industrial zoned land instead of trying to take and continue

682
00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:26,440
to take our rural residential?

683
00:55:27,460 --> 00:55:31,440
We have got to stand up at some point and say no.

684
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,300
Just like Palmetto has done, I am Mayor Pro Tem this year and I am a council member

685
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:37,260
for the past 10 years.

686
00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:40,100
So I know what it's like to sit on your side as well.

687
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:42,140
And you're probably tired of hearing it by now.

688
00:55:42,140 --> 00:55:47,640
But if nothing else tonight, please listen to the people who have shown up.

689
00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:50,620
I will ask this because not everybody can talk.

690
00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:58,000
So as my final outgoing, I extremely oppose the building.

691
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:04,000
And I would like for anybody who is against this to stand up in their seat tonight.

692
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:06,420
Please do not stand up.

693
00:56:07,940 --> 00:56:10,220
Please do not stand up. I'm sorry.

694
00:56:11,980 --> 00:56:14,680
We need to move on. We're not taking a vote.

695
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:17,800
Right here. Mr.

696
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,160
Bowes. Yes, sir. Speaker, please. Robert Arnold.

697
00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:38,090
Good evening, Mr. Robert Arnold. 205 Taylor Circle Palmetto, Georgia.

698
00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:42,250
I, too, am a multi-generation Palmetton

699
00:56:42,250 --> 00:56:46,030
and Coyote County resident. Well, I'm not a Coyote County resident, but my roots run deep

700
00:56:46,030 --> 00:56:51,650
in Calcutta County. For over 100 years, my family has owned property along a time of

701
00:56:51,650 --> 00:56:56,590
lead cook road. And now many of my residents, many of my family members still live on that

702
00:56:56,590 --> 00:57:00,970
land and property in Calcutta County home, as well as many of my church members still

703
00:57:00,970 --> 00:57:06,370
call Calcutta County home. And we are going to threaten their way of life. And there

704
00:57:06,370 --> 00:57:12,030
are a couple reasons why I'm asking that you oppose this data center. One is that

705
00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:15,150
there are going to be potential increases in the air pollution. I know we've heard

706
00:57:15,150 --> 00:57:19,430
some data that says otherwise, but I'm asking that you would consider the data

707
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:24,570
pollution, the air, the dust from the construction site. As a council member, I've

708
00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:28,270
been on this Palm Island City Council now for five years and I know that when

709
00:57:28,270 --> 00:57:31,610
developments come in, they don't always follow the boundaries, they don't

710
00:57:31,610 --> 00:57:37,030
always follow the setbacks and we've seen that we've, as Nate just said, we've

711
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:40,390
he's been on council ten years, I know he's seen his share of it and he's

712
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:45,890
seen his share of emails about it as well. And so I'm asking that you oppose it for that reason.

713
00:57:46,170 --> 00:57:51,970
Also, there's already additional truck traffic that we're seeing on Highway 29 on Weldon roads

714
00:57:51,970 --> 00:57:56,590
and also our secondary screeching power metal overruns with trucks now. So we're asking that

715
00:57:56,590 --> 00:58:02,050
you oppose it for that reason. Also, we don't want to see our night skyline disrupted by

716
00:58:02,050 --> 00:58:06,790
artificial lights. We're also concerned about the noise pollution. We're also concerned

717
00:58:06,790 --> 00:58:10,390
about the sleep patterns as well being disrupted because of the artificial light

718
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:15,750
and the noise equipment. Also we've got seniors who've called out of home for

719
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:20,610
some of them 70, 80, 90 years and now so we're asking that you not disturb their

720
00:58:20,610 --> 00:58:25,170
way of life. So we have legacy families in this area who are going to be

721
00:58:25,170 --> 00:58:29,490
impacted. People like the Williams of Thurman's just to name a few. So we're

722
00:58:29,490 --> 00:58:32,630
asking that you not disturb their way of life. And also we're just

723
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:37,470
concerned about the decline of property taxes as well and also we're

724
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:42,350
concerned about the loss of natural habitat so as it was said earlier it's

725
00:58:42,350 --> 00:58:45,970
a beautiful place to go and so we're asking that if you must consider

726
00:58:45,970 --> 00:58:49,110
rezoning this if you would please consider rezoning it for something that

727
00:58:49,110 --> 00:58:53,130
can be useful for the community as a whole consider using it for education

728
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:57,110
consider using it for a single-family housing consider it for use as

729
00:58:57,110 --> 00:59:01,510
recreational facilities consider it for dining consider for medical use some

730
00:59:01,510 --> 00:59:04,990
other use other than a data center. I yield back. Thank you.

731
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,620
Next, Mr. Chairman, Jess

732
00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:09,180
Wilbanks.

733
00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:15,740
Good evening, commissioners. On behalf of Palmetto neighbors and

734
00:59:15,740 --> 00:59:20,900
leadership, we would ask you to vote no or to table the rezoning of our rural

735
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:26,600
conservation land just outside Palmetto along Highway 29. We just don't want to

736
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:32,700
be walled in. We'd appreciate being part of future conversations. We're

737
00:59:32,700 --> 00:59:38,300
concerned that part of our city limits may actually be impacted. The area

738
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:42,700
surrounding this data center is mostly rural residential and it is not best

739
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:48,200
suited for industrial. There's only one corner of businesses there. Project

740
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,700
Peach proposal is 0.8 miles from downtown. It will be in the backyard of

741
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:59,020
many of our legacy families. The constant hum from generators and 13

742
00:59:59,020 --> 00:59:59,880
18 acres of power.

743
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:10,100
Our air quality concerns, light pollution, it will decimate our night sky. Our quality of

744
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:14,820
life of our residents will certainly be diminished. The neighborhoods, churches, current industries

745
01:00:14,820 --> 01:00:20,080
and entire community would suffer from a decade of construction. Palmetto residents are trying

746
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,880
to preserve our heritage and cultivate our future. We've had enough of the wrong kind

747
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:31,180
of development. We're asking for Palmetto to be a place of peace and purpose. Please help

748
01:00:31,180 --> 01:00:37,220
us preserve our way of life. Could I get your address again, please? 217 Cobb Street, Palmetto,

749
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:38,140
Georgia. Thank you.

750
01:00:40,380 --> 01:00:41,980
Next, Mr. Chairman, Barbara Nott.

751
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,540
Hey. My name is Barbara Nott, and I live

752
01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:12,780
in Palmetto with my husband Charles and son Jonathan in a historical house on eight

753
01:01:12,780 --> 01:01:20,220
acres where ancient trees and a pond dominate a landscape alive with the coming and going

754
01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:26,680
of birds and frogs, squirrels and rabbits and sometimes deer, often seen wandering in

755
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,840
from the backwoods to drink from the pond.

756
01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:34,780
Together my family has published 25 issues of an online literary art journal called

757
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:41,160
The Grapevine Art and Soul Salon, where we focus on the cultural and soulful values

758
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,940
so important to our health and happiness and satisfaction as human beings.

759
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,140
My thoughts in opposition to the development of a data center so close to downtown Palmetto

760
01:01:52,140 --> 01:01:58,100
have a lot to do with hazards that include the loss of animals and healthy landscaping

761
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:04,760
as well as dangers to our own health with irritating lights and sights and noises and poisonous air.

762
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:10,820
Under the influence of our Mayor Theresa Thomas Smith, the City of Palmetto presently is making

763
01:02:10,820 --> 01:02:16,460
major efforts to cultivate cultural changes and additions that will enhance the health,

764
01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:22,600
harmony and satisfaction of our citizens' lives through greater access to art and culture

765
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:29,240
and environmental development that will beautify our homes and city spaces and outlying

766
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:36,240
areas filled with trees and landscaping that support our intention to be a blooming community.

767
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:42,180
It seems ironic that so much of Kawita County, particularly in the Newnen area, has devoted

768
01:02:42,180 --> 01:02:49,700
decades to paying impressive attention to environmental values and artful building and landscaping,

769
01:02:50,180 --> 01:02:53,300
enough in Newnen to name it the city of homes.

770
01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:59,220
I wondered how they could possibly support the negative effects of a data center that

771
01:02:59,220 --> 01:03:01,900
had been spelled out so clearly in so many ways.

772
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:10,180
Then I saw a Facebook post on April 11th from the Newnan Times Herald with 57 comments

773
01:03:10,780 --> 01:03:15,720
from Newnan and Calvita folks showing that they do not support the project and wish

774
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,580
very much that the Calvita County commissioners would pay attention to the resistance and

775
01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:21,980
complaints from Palmetto.

776
01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:28,540
So, so do I wish that as a retired psychotherapist I can tell you that data centers and the space

777
01:03:28,540 --> 01:03:33,720
they take up and the mechanical forces they use and the traffic congestion created by

778
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:39,300
trucking are factors that lead to emotional depression which is one way to describe the

779
01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:41,100
loss of soulful living.

780
01:03:42,260 --> 01:03:45,700
We so desperately need in our troubled times.

781
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:52,320
We need art in abundance, cultural and spiritual centers and events, places to

782
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,980
wander alone or with a partner and absorb sunlight and moonlight and enjoy

783
01:03:56,980 --> 01:04:02,380
trees and rivers and animal life. In Palmetto we need the freedom to pursue

784
01:04:02,380 --> 01:04:07,720
our goals of creating a blooming community where all our people can

785
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:13,240
become quick which might be called alert and evergreen in the environment

786
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:18,140
of their choice. Our hope is that you and Calvita County will join us as neighbors

787
01:04:18,140 --> 01:04:24,080
and friends to live a more abundant life, not a less abundant one. Thank you.

788
01:04:24,940 --> 01:04:26,740
Next, Mr. Chairman, Charles Nott.

789
01:04:40,780 --> 01:04:47,520
My name is Charles Nott. I live in Palmetto on Cobb Street, 227 Cobb Street,

790
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:55,320
a house my father bought in 1963. My parents willed the house to me when they died in 1990s.

791
01:04:55,320 --> 01:05:01,180
The house was built in the 1850s, and it sits on eight acres of land.

792
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,740
The land has a pond, many ancient trees, and lots of animal life.

793
01:05:06,380 --> 01:05:08,940
To put it bluntly, the land is sacred.

794
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:17,520
Perhaps I can speak for all the elders when I say that I do not want to spend my final

795
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:25,040
years breathing construction dust, listening to the perpetual hum of high-voltage electricity

796
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:34,700
seeing the night sky up, lit up by artificial lights from a data center, listening to the

797
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:42,140
perpetual hum of high-voltage electronics invading my consciousness, etc. I hope that I can be

798
01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:46,980
allowed to speak for our elders and also for a much neglected group that cannot speak

799
01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:53,200
for itself, namely the young people. I would not wish the environment I just described

800
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:58,900
to be imposed upon a newborn, nor would I wish it to be imposed upon a developing child

801
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:05,440
who needs space to play and space to grow. Somewhere along the way, a lot of people with

802
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:10,900
a lot of money forgot that the land is sacred. The land is not something to be broken up

803
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:16,580
and reassembled for monetary purposes. The eight acres my parents left behind are

804
01:06:16,580 --> 01:06:21,780
a microcosm of the earth. We must protect the lives of the deer and foxes and rabbits

805
01:06:21,780 --> 01:06:27,100
bits and squirrels and raccoons, to say nothing of the bullfrogs and butterflies and children,

806
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,400
both unborn and recently born and those yet to be conceived.

807
01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:35,340
And then, too, there are the birds.

808
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:41,120
Every time I cut the lawn, grass seed is spread, and the birds come in to have a feast.

809
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,300
Who would take that away from them?

810
01:06:44,180 --> 01:06:49,980
If the data center is built, a lot of nature and a lot of lives, human and animal,

811
01:06:49,980 --> 01:06:58,320
will be severely damaged. Please vote no. Thank you, sir. Next, Mr. Chairman, Dennis Miller.

812
01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:00,340
Good

813
01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:15,370
evening, Mr. Chairman, commissioners. My name is Dennis Miller, 519 10th Street,

814
01:07:15,830 --> 01:07:22,110
Palmetto, Georgia. So fortunately, oh, sorry, fortunately, you've already heard a lot of what

815
01:07:22,110 --> 01:07:26,170
I had to say from previous speakers. So I'd like to address something that I don't think has

816
01:07:26,170 --> 01:07:32,630
been touched on yet. Let's talk about zoning and how zoning affects everyone's

817
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:38,310
responsibility to determine a sense of place. That's why people live in

818
01:07:38,310 --> 01:07:43,110
municipalities and counties and not in unincorporated areas where they can do

819
01:07:43,110 --> 01:07:49,830
whatever they want. They want to follow a set of rules so that we can all say

820
01:07:49,830 --> 01:07:55,450
this is a place I can be proud to call home. And I'd like to think the

821
01:07:55,450 --> 01:08:03,230
commissioners when they're considering their sense of place and their responsibility as

822
01:08:03,230 --> 01:08:12,390
it comes to zoning to consider your northern border and what that sense of place and your

823
01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:22,030
vision for rural conservation might as well be paved industrial and its effects on your

824
01:08:22,030 --> 01:08:29,030
neighbors. And our ability to determine our sense of place. And I'll leave you with one

825
01:08:29,030 --> 01:08:37,370
final thought. Hopefully it's a little emotional. I'd like you to consider if, because as a

826
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:43,170
current citizen of Palmetto, I am a previous citizen of Noonan. I love it. It's a beautiful

827
01:08:43,170 --> 01:08:47,490
area. It's a beautiful county. When I moved from Chicago, I thought I could never love

828
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:52,010
anywhere rural absolutely most part of the country don't plan to move until the

829
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:58,370
corner takes me away in a black man but I want you to consider that if people a

830
01:08:58,370 --> 01:09:04,890
generation ago sitting in your seats decided that a gigantic facility would

831
01:09:04,890 --> 01:09:12,870
be a great thing to put point eight miles away from this building do you

832
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:17,310
think maybe noon and wouldn't be known as the city of homes probably not

833
01:09:17,310 --> 01:09:23,950
maybe the city of data centers or whatever they were building in 1950 so

834
01:09:23,950 --> 01:09:28,650
please have some forward vision when you consider what you think your sense of

835
01:09:28,650 --> 01:09:34,710
place and your role is because it affects this county and your neighbors and the

836
01:09:34,710 --> 01:09:40,250
citizens that live there. I appreciate your time. Thank you. Mr. Chairman that's

837
01:09:40,250 --> 01:09:43,370
exhausted there 20 minutes. Okay I

838
01:09:45,900 --> 01:09:48,320
will say I'm sorry to all of you who

839
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:58,060
wanted to speak the meeting rules call for 20 minutes on both sides either pro

840
01:09:58,060 --> 01:10:05,560
or con but I think we've heard your message that you have from from both

841
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:13,300
sides and at this time Mr. Chairman the applicant does have about four minutes

842
01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:16,700
Yes, that's what I was going to say. I was going back here to read my notes here.

843
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:22,140
How much time does the applicant have?

844
01:10:22,260 --> 01:10:23,860
According to our time, four minutes.

845
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,040
Four minutes, yes. Mr. Age?

846
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:33,610
Mr. Chairman, I don't have anything else to say, but I'll be glad to stand for questions if there are any from the board.

847
01:10:35,690 --> 01:10:37,070
Any questions from the board?

848
01:10:38,690 --> 01:10:39,990
I have a question.

849
01:10:40,530 --> 01:10:40,830
Okay.

850
01:10:41,010 --> 01:10:41,330
Yes, sir.

851
01:10:42,690 --> 01:10:51,010
I noticed that the 50 jobs that were mentioned did not give an amount of what the salary would

852
01:10:51,010 --> 01:10:51,270
be.

853
01:10:52,690 --> 01:11:01,210
And the second question is, what is the use of 80 to 100,000 gallons of water a day for?

854
01:11:04,220 --> 01:11:07,440
Chairman, Commissioner Smith, let me answer the second one first.

855
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:13,300
We think that that amount that we're giving you on the water is very much probably on

856
01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:17,300
the high end, but we're trying to be conservative here. But as one of our

857
01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:22,520
previous presenters stated, basically the water is used for what you would

858
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:27,140
normally use in an office building or an industrial building. It's just for the

859
01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:31,860
toilets, for the kitchens, that type of thing. There's nothing being used to

860
01:11:31,860 --> 01:11:35,800
cool any of the data, center equipment, anything of that nature. So it's just

861
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,560
just normal regular usage. So if anything I think we've aired on the

862
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:44,320
high side of the amount of water, frankly, but we want to be cautious on that and make

863
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,760
sure we weren't understating that.

864
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,140
Now on the question about the salaries, you can give me one moment.

865
01:11:58,380 --> 01:12:05,080
I'm told that the salaries average over 125% over the county's average medium wage.

866
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:09,560
That's been our experience in other jurisdictions, and we expect that to be the case here.

867
01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:11,460
So is that a number?

868
01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:17,770
I think the market is going to determine that.

869
01:12:17,770 --> 01:12:22,950
When they go to hire folks here, Commissioner, then they'll be looking at what is the medium

870
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:28,350
wage, how they hire the best people they can hire, they're going to pay a premium to do

871
01:12:28,350 --> 01:12:28,570
that.

872
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,360
Mr. Vice, do you know what the medium wage is for Cady County?

873
01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:40,980
I believe I'd have to check with our economic development president, but I want to say

874
01:12:40,980 --> 01:12:44,620
the last time we spoke it was nearly 50,000, so like 49,000.

875
01:12:44,620 --> 01:12:49,620
Okay. So 120% would take you to about $57,000 a year estimate.

876
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,100
Did that answer your question, Commissioner Smith?

877
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,420
Yes, it does and I really appreciate Mr. Edge addressing that.

878
01:12:57,820 --> 01:12:58,760
Yes. Thank you, Commissioner.

879
01:13:02,430 --> 01:13:07,910
I have a question. I don't need to know the name, but are you in contract with a hyperscaler?

880
01:13:09,070 --> 01:13:10,490
No, Commissioner, we're not.

881
01:13:10,670 --> 01:13:11,270
Not at this time?

882
01:13:11,650 --> 01:13:12,390
Not at this time.

883
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:20,490
I can say that based on our experience and other jurisdictions, we expect that to happen

884
01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:24,310
fairly quickly if this is approved.

885
01:13:25,130 --> 01:13:30,630
I'd also note that my research indicates that the data centers that are up and operating

886
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:35,910
in the Metro Atlanta area, I think they have a vacancy rate of about 3.7 percent,

887
01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:37,410
so they fill up pretty quickly.

888
01:13:37,930 --> 01:13:38,470
Thank you.

889
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:48,840
So what you're saying is, do you know who will actually own the building?

890
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:53,760
Well, we would own the building. We don't know who the tenants are going to be, so to speak.

891
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:59,100
Okay, so you're going to basically lease or rent it out to whoever your tenant is?

892
01:13:59,240 --> 01:13:59,540
Yes, sir.

893
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,580
But you don't know who the tenant is at this point?

894
01:14:02,780 --> 01:14:03,120
No, sir.

895
01:14:03,340 --> 01:14:03,520
Okay.

896
01:14:03,860 --> 01:14:08,940
We'll be marketing that, and it could be one large tenant, it could be several smaller ones.

897
01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:09,740
Anyone

898
01:14:14,340 --> 01:14:15,480
else have any questions?

899
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,260
I have questions after you close the public hearing.

900
01:14:18,460 --> 01:14:18,900
All right.

901
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:21,440
Second.

902
01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:22,980
All right.

903
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:24,660
Is that a motion?

904
01:14:24,820 --> 01:14:26,040
I'll make a motion to close the public hearing.

905
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:26,520
Second.

906
01:14:26,820 --> 01:14:27,140
Okay.

907
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:33,200
I heard Mr. Smith second before John said it, but that's okay.

908
01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:36,880
I have a motion to close the public hearing.

909
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,420
Is there any further discussion?

910
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,800
All in favor say aye.

911
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:43,940
All right, all right.

912
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:48,280
All of those carers sounds like unanimously.

913
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:50,200
All right?

914
01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:55,980
You want to?

915
01:14:57,420 --> 01:14:59,000
I have some questions.

916
01:14:59,760 --> 01:14:59,840
All right.

917
01:14:59,840 --> 01:14:59,980
You

918
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:12,520
So, you know, some of the issues that we have to deal with as commissioners is people say put this in industrial areas.

919
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:22,410
Well, to the south of that proposed plan, there's 61 acres of industrial. To the north of that plan, there's...

920
01:15:24,530 --> 01:15:30,970
To the south of that, let me go back and restate, a lot of talk about, and the Christians have

921
01:15:30,970 --> 01:15:35,590
a difficult time making these decisions, but you talk about placing these things in industrial

922
01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:36,090
areas.

923
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:41,050
So to the south of that proposed development, there are 61 acres of industrial.

924
01:15:41,770 --> 01:15:47,990
To the north, there's about 30 acres of non-use, what do you call it, power right

925
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:48,270
of way.

926
01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:49,190
You can't build on that.

927
01:15:49,730 --> 01:15:56,130
to the east of that project is nothing but zoned industrial it's industrial all

928
01:15:56,130 --> 01:15:59,850
around there except for that one area so it's a difficult thing that we have to

929
01:15:59,850 --> 01:16:03,810
deal with it and I as a you know I've lived here for 35 years and I don't know

930
01:16:03,810 --> 01:16:08,310
that I would build a house out there given where it's at right now so the

931
01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:15,630
other questions I have am I correct in saying what I said mr. Sewell yes it

932
01:16:15,630 --> 01:16:19,110
It wasn't too long ago, I believe maybe six, seven years ago,

933
01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:26,450
where Palmetto annexed property to put a 1 million square foot

934
01:16:26,450 --> 01:16:30,390
industrial cross-stock warehouse from Cavite County.

935
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:33,270
Again, industrial.

936
01:16:38,190 --> 01:16:40,410
I mean, that's the difficulty we have

937
01:16:40,410 --> 01:16:46,030
is dealing with this, is that in my eyes,

938
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:47,270
this would be an industrial area.

939
01:16:47,390 --> 01:16:48,170
That's just my opinion.

940
01:16:48,170 --> 01:16:52,410
it's an industrial area because of everything that surrounds the current

941
01:16:52,410 --> 01:16:56,570
developments that are there right now. So that's that's all I have Mr. Chairman.

942
01:16:57,470 --> 01:16:57,590
Okay.

943
01:17:00,150 --> 01:17:07,150
Is there any other questions commissioners? Can I make a comment?

944
01:17:07,610 --> 01:17:15,450
Yes Mr. Smith. By my count I had six people for the developer that spoke in

945
01:17:15,450 --> 01:17:22,710
favor of the project. And I don't know if any of them lived in this area except Mr. Edge.

946
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:33,230
And contrary to that, there were 10 residents that spoke against it and not one spoke in

947
01:17:33,230 --> 01:17:39,330
favor of it. And that tells me something about the relationship between the developer

948
01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:42,650
and the community is a gap there.

949
01:17:42,910 --> 01:17:45,830
And I would think that at least some residents

950
01:17:46,450 --> 01:17:51,410
would see the value of it, but I did not see that tonight.

951
01:17:51,790 --> 01:17:55,810
So that's weighs heavily on my decision-making.

952
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:57,570
And thank you for that.

953
01:17:58,210 --> 01:17:58,650
All right.

954
01:18:02,060 --> 01:18:04,240
Are we ready for the motion?

955
01:18:06,820 --> 01:18:10,060
I wanna just say something before we go in there too

956
01:18:10,060 --> 01:18:11,060
as I look at this.

957
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:18,500
I'll speak for myself on this, because somebody mentioned it earlier, and you're listened to.

958
01:18:18,940 --> 01:18:24,680
There is no decision that is made up here that I don't put myself, and I'm certain they

959
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:29,060
probably do the same thing, that I don't put this structure in my backyard too.

960
01:18:29,980 --> 01:18:31,420
In fact, I would take it.

961
01:18:32,260 --> 01:18:39,120
So I look at this to commission a Ritalbox comments for industrial, and I have an

962
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:43,200
opinion too, just like you did. And I gave you the floor to be able to speak and I didn't

963
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:49,300
laugh at you. So I look at this as far as industrial. But there's another piece to this

964
01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:55,240
I look at too. We called other jurisdictions in Loudoun County and other areas to see what

965
01:18:55,240 --> 01:19:02,140
they went through. What they did in people's backyards. And every development is fought.

966
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:08,320
Every protracted development, per protracted development is fought. You voted, the public

967
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:17,800
voted on HB 581. We had to cut over $10 million. That budget, that void is still there. You

968
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:23,640
were tasked us to help us run a county. This is what we're trying to do. We're bringing

969
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,940
in elements like this to be able to offset that for Cuita County. There's other counties

970
01:19:27,940 --> 01:19:33,620
in Georgia that's doing the same thing. You can adjust your ordinances in here

971
01:19:33,620 --> 01:19:35,740
when the revenue stream is also there.

972
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,900
You don't want an additional 4 million people coming into the state of Georgia, do you?

973
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,700
This is part of that mechanism in which to do that.

974
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,040
These revenue streams are real.

975
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:52,680
And I thank you for the numbers that you provided me for the four campuses, because

976
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:58,060
the jurisdictions that have housed these in Loudoun County, Virginia and Sterling

977
01:19:58,060 --> 01:20:00,520
Virginia, they have verified that.

978
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:06,960
There are other campuses for these data centers much larger than the ones that

979
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:12,080
have been described here today that will provide this also. You want parks, you

980
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:16,000
want trails, you want some of this other stuff. This is the mechanism in which to

981
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,400
pay for that and there are other avenues that we can break off for tax

982
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:24,220
purposes and this is where I'm at and I wanted to explain myself before the

983
01:20:24,220 --> 01:20:24,980
vote took place.

984
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,500
And then, Mr. Chairman, I also have some other, I mean, I, I

985
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:35,280
appreciate, you know, the conditions that Mr. Sewell and community development put

986
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:35,440
up.

987
01:20:38,710 --> 01:20:46,910
Please do not do an outburst. This is not the time. It's not the way to, to

988
01:20:46,910 --> 01:20:48,610
handle business. Well,

989
01:20:56,480 --> 01:21:00,500
number one is I'm not familiar with it, but I'm glad

990
01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:06,840
that somebody brought it to my attention that is one of the things that we will

991
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:17,040
address as to any kind of development but you know sometimes it would be nice

992
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:23,520
to know I saw the mayor and council from Palmetta and I appreciate them

993
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:29,280
being here and getting up and speaking to us giving us their opinion but it

994
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,700
It would have sort of been nice if they had just wretched out.

995
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:40,980
I think I gave the mayor my card with my number on it when we met with her recently and just

996
01:21:40,980 --> 01:21:41,660
talk.

997
01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:44,940
Let's talk before it gets to this point, okay?

998
01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:52,160
And I heard no comments at that time.

999
01:21:52,160 --> 01:22:04,560
So what you're asking is something that can be worked out and can be mitigated as we get into the development.

1000
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:08,740
This is a rezoning of the property.

1001
01:22:11,580 --> 01:22:12,440
Thank you.

1002
01:22:27,530 --> 01:22:30,470
You are out of order, ma'am.

1003
01:22:33,530 --> 01:22:43,580
Well, I appreciate it and I will always fight for Cal Eater. Thank you. All right. We're

1004
01:22:43,580 --> 01:22:50,420
going to we're going to call for the motion. I have a few things I want to

1005
01:22:50,420 --> 01:22:57,260
further. Again, this is so I appreciate you're in the departments outlining the

1006
01:22:57,260 --> 01:23:02,060
21 conditions but you know through my research much like Mr. Fisher has done

1007
01:23:02,060 --> 01:23:05,860
we've done a lot of research in this area and I had some other concerns

1008
01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:12,380
regarding this the first one being as I heard the the applicant mentioned 60

1009
01:23:12,380 --> 01:23:17,460
dBs well our ordinance is 40 dBs at the property line so that would be a

1010
01:23:17,460 --> 01:23:20,220
condition I would make you adhere to and I don't know how you do that but

1011
01:23:20,220 --> 01:23:23,120
it would have to be 40 dBs I mean 45 dBs.

1012
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,240
Second thing is is have you got

1013
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,080
we'll serve or purchase agreement with any power company.

1014
01:23:36,110 --> 01:23:44,590
As I mentioned earlier, we did not have a finalized agreement and we cannot get one until the zoning is approved.

1015
01:23:44,850 --> 01:23:49,930
But if it does, then we will certainly be working immediately to get that finalized.

1016
01:23:50,350 --> 01:23:56,190
So that would again be a condition that I would implement is that if we didn't get a will serve from you within six months,

1017
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:58,330
we'd have the option to re-zone it back.

1018
01:23:58,630 --> 01:23:59,010
Yes, sir.

1019
01:23:59,770 --> 01:24:02,930
And a purchase agreement as well, a purchase power agreement or anything.

1020
01:24:03,710 --> 01:24:04,590
That's acceptable.

1021
01:24:04,890 --> 01:24:06,650
The other thing was waste mitigation plan.

1022
01:24:07,090 --> 01:24:15,170
I mean, I know you talked about it, but I want verifications reports sent to community development on annual basis that shows recyclable waste versus landfill waste.

1023
01:24:15,630 --> 01:24:16,050
Yes, sir.

1024
01:24:16,970 --> 01:24:17,850
That's acceptable.

1025
01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:20,410
Obviously all buildings will be data centers.

1026
01:24:20,710 --> 01:24:28,390
The other thing, you know, the substation on Highway 29 there, I just, you know, I know you guys said you'd burn it,

1027
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:31,950
you hide it and all that good stuff but is there a way that you could move that to

1028
01:24:31,950 --> 01:24:37,050
and where one of the buildings are to get it off 29 is still berm the property

1029
01:24:37,050 --> 01:24:41,770
property that that you would hide all this stuff yes one moment mr.

1030
01:24:46,740 --> 01:24:46,820
chairman

1031
01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:55,920
what we could do is swap the positions of the substation with building one is

1032
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,900
reverse those two flip them and do it that way if that would be acceptable okay

1033
01:25:00,900 --> 01:25:06,440
we're prepared to do that so building do you want to point out building one Mr.

1034
01:25:06,620 --> 01:25:10,660
Sewell sure that's

1035
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,420
building one this is building one and this is the substation

1036
01:25:26,420 --> 01:25:30,460
site so it sounds like flipping the building to here and the substation to

1037
01:25:30,460 --> 01:25:38,360
the interior of the site okay and then the the other comments I want to make

1038
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,660
two is that I have driven out there I mean that's in my backyard as well I

1039
01:25:42,660 --> 01:25:48,740
driven out there and I have been out there at night as well and I look at the downward

1040
01:25:48,740 --> 01:25:52,980
lighting from Palmetto Baptist Church. I look at the downward lighting from the industrial

1041
01:25:52,980 --> 01:25:57,660
areas that are already out there. So there is light out there already. They will be

1042
01:25:57,660 --> 01:26:03,300
required to use the downward LED lighting as well if they were to get approved. So

1043
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:10,280
I mean, that's my comments on the additional conditions. I don't know if I have any

1044
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,000
of the commissioners that want to speak to anything so

1045
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:19,430
Mr. Chairman I'm gonna make

1046
01:26:19,430 --> 01:26:24,650
a motion to prove on the conditions okay you the additional conditions with the

1047
01:26:24,650 --> 01:26:30,490
21 standing effect the motion did you add you do you want to add those yes I

1048
01:26:30,490 --> 01:26:35,310
just went through them okay the additional 25 DB at the property lines

1049
01:26:35,310 --> 01:26:38,490
the served letter from the power and a purchase agreement from the power

1050
01:26:38,490 --> 01:26:43,230
company within six months waste mitigation plan with reporting company

1051
01:26:43,230 --> 01:26:47,650
community development once a year annually it shows the recyclable waste

1052
01:26:47,650 --> 01:26:52,950
versus the landfill waste all buildings must be data centers and they're

1053
01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:59,010
swapping the substations with building one and then all visible buildings will

1054
01:26:59,010 --> 01:27:05,470
be burned and buffered. Okay I have a motion I have a second is there any

1055
01:27:05,470 --> 01:27:12,510
further discussion? Commissioner ready for the vote? All in favor say aye. Aye. All

1056
01:27:12,510 --> 01:27:17,610
opposed by like sign name and I also the

1057
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:31,140
motion carries three to two I voted

1058
01:27:31,140 --> 01:27:43,120
me but it carries so we're

1059
01:27:45,170 --> 01:27:47,870
gonna call it's been about an hour and a half

1060
01:27:47,870 --> 01:27:53,290
now we're going to call for a quick break and we're in recess until we come back.

1061
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:38,820
Would you please take your seat? We're going to reconvene.

1062
01:41:42,530 --> 01:41:43,890
We're still in the public hearings.

1063
01:41:44,490 --> 01:41:56,070
Public hearing regarding petition number VAR 25-02, filed by Page Dock-Wiler, requesting a bar and

1064
01:41:56,070 --> 01:42:04,630
setback variance for property located at 9210 East Highway 16 Senoa District 1. I was on an

1065
01:42:04,630 --> 01:42:10,370
associate Nicole Blackwell is going to make presentation. Good evening. I'll be

1066
01:42:10,370 --> 01:42:16,770
presenting petition variance 2502. The applicant Page Dockweiler is requesting a

1067
01:42:16,770 --> 01:42:23,090
barn setback reduction variance under article 7 section 72 item 4a for

1068
01:42:23,090 --> 01:42:28,850
property located at 9210 East Highway 16 in Senoi. The property is

1069
01:42:28,850 --> 01:42:36,690
approximately 12.81 acres in a zoned RC Rural Conservation. The applicant purchased the property

1070
01:42:36,690 --> 01:42:44,870
in 2018 and established an agricultural farm known as Duck Brown Farm and Distillers. Duck

1071
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:49,870
Brown Farm and Distillers is a seed-to-still farm. As part of the farming operation,

1072
01:42:50,110 --> 01:42:56,350
the applicant constructed a 40-foot by 50-foot pole barn to store farming equipment. Unfortunately,

1073
01:42:56,350 --> 01:43:01,770
The applicant did not obtain any building permits prior to construction of the pole

1074
01:43:01,770 --> 01:43:06,170
barn and the structure does not meet the required setbacks for a barn.

1075
01:43:07,450 --> 01:43:08,170
According

1076
01:43:11,370 --> 01:43:17,710
to Article 7, Section 72, Item 4A, all related accessory buildings used for

1077
01:43:17,710 --> 01:43:23,670
the storing of equipment shall be located 100 feet from all property lines and at

1078
01:43:23,670 --> 01:43:27,190
least 200 feet from any existing off-site dwelling.

1079
01:43:27,190 --> 01:43:37,700
As you can see from the site plan, submitted with the application, the pole barn is positioned

1080
01:43:37,700 --> 01:43:40,660
in this narrow area right here of the property.

1081
01:43:42,740 --> 01:43:48,560
It's between the applicant's property boundaries and their personal residents.

1082
01:43:48,980 --> 01:43:52,180
They have a personal residence right here on this next parcel.

1083
01:43:52,180 --> 01:43:52,320
parcel.

1084
01:43:54,520 --> 01:44:01,580
The barn is situated approximately 40 feet from the northern property line and

1085
01:44:01,580 --> 01:44:08,000
approximately 150 feet from the applicant's residential dwelling on the next parcel.

1086
01:44:08,860 --> 01:44:13,260
Therefore, the applicant is requesting the variance for a reduction in the required

1087
01:44:13,260 --> 01:44:17,420
setbacks to allow the barn to remain at its current location.

1088
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:22,060
Here is an aerial view

1089
01:44:22,060 --> 01:44:25,920
of the property you can see the barn right here and

1090
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:29,340
the applicant's home on

1091
01:44:29,340 --> 01:44:35,800
this parcel to the north. Again the barn is approximately 40 feet to their

1092
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:40,860
property line and 150 feet to the personal residence.

1093
01:44:45,590 --> 01:44:46,890
Here are photos staff

1094
01:44:46,890 --> 01:44:52,110
took of the barn. You can see the barn in question on the left and on the

1095
01:44:52,110 --> 01:44:57,190
right you can see another angle of that same barn looking towards the

1096
01:44:57,190 --> 01:44:58,430
applicant's home.

1097
01:45:01,010 --> 01:45:05,570
Consideration for a variance request must be reviewed by the seven factors under article

1098
01:45:05,570 --> 01:45:12,230
28 of the Cahuilla County Zoning and Development Ordinance. Some highlighted factors are barns

1099
01:45:12,230 --> 01:45:18,130
are common sites within the RC Rural Conservation Zoning District and complement the rural nature

1100
01:45:18,130 --> 01:45:25,690
of the area and are essential for the upkeep of a farming operation. The Board should consider

1101
01:45:25,690 --> 01:45:28,170
if this request is justified by a hardship.

1102
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,400
Should the Board choose to approve this request,

1103
01:45:35,620 --> 01:45:39,860
the Community Development Department submits the following four conditions for consideration.

1104
01:45:40,700 --> 01:45:46,580
One, the pole barn shall not encroach any closer to the Northern Property Line or to

1105
01:45:46,580 --> 01:45:52,500
the off-site residential dwelling than it currently exists today. Two, the applicant

1106
01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:57,200
shall meet all the requirements of the Building Department. Three, the applicant

1107
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:03,200
will obtain all appropriate building permits and inspections for the pole barn and for if

1108
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:08,680
the barn cannot meet all requirements for building permit inspections and approvals then

1109
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:14,280
the applicant shall demo the barn after obtaining the appropriate demo permits from the community

1110
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:15,860
development building department.

1111
01:46:18,330 --> 01:46:22,570
Here's that site plan again and I'd like to point out that the community development

1112
01:46:22,570 --> 01:46:29,090
department received an audience participation form from Tommy and Shirley Davis at 9288

1113
01:46:29,090 --> 01:46:35,850
Highway 16, Sonoy. The Davises are the most effective property owners to the south. They

1114
01:46:35,850 --> 01:46:41,550
live right here on this property. And they support the variance request for the barn

1115
01:46:41,550 --> 01:46:44,250
setback. Any questions for staff?

1116
01:46:46,330 --> 01:46:50,250
So the surrounding property owners are okay with the barns as well?

1117
01:46:55,480 --> 01:47:00,500
Does not hear any more from up here. Does the applicant wish to speak?

1118
01:47:01,580 --> 01:47:03,800
I have a question before you, David, could you please?

1119
01:47:03,940 --> 01:47:04,340
Oh, I'm sorry.

1120
01:47:04,940 --> 01:47:10,940
Is the barn on the property of the owners, I saw the drawing, but it doesn't look like

1121
01:47:10,940 --> 01:47:14,160
it's on the same property as the home of the owners.

1122
01:47:15,820 --> 01:47:18,420
It's on a separate parcel.

1123
01:47:20,300 --> 01:47:21,280
They own both.

1124
01:47:21,500 --> 01:47:22,320
They own both.

1125
01:47:22,980 --> 01:47:27,200
She owns both parcels, but it is on a separate parcel.

1126
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:34,640
And that's why it does not meet the requirement of the off-site dwelling must be 200 feet.

1127
01:47:36,500 --> 01:47:41,100
Had the properties been combined, that wouldn't be an issue.

1128
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:44,160
Okay, thank you.

1129
01:47:44,620 --> 01:47:44,780
Sure.

1130
01:47:46,910 --> 01:47:48,290
Any other comments?

1131
01:47:49,670 --> 01:47:51,410
Does the applicant wish to speak?

1132
01:47:53,550 --> 01:47:53,830
Okay.

1133
01:47:55,870 --> 01:48:03,030
Okay. Are there any comments in support of or in opposition other than the one that we

1134
01:48:03,030 --> 01:48:03,290
heard?

1135
01:48:03,770 --> 01:48:06,590
Mr. Chairman, no one signed up to speak in support of our opposition.

1136
01:48:07,970 --> 01:48:08,690
All right.

1137
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:16,910
Any other questions for the staff?

1138
01:48:17,210 --> 01:48:19,310
I just have one question there. I was going to do it after me.

1139
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:30,930
So that you guys go out and inspect everything, make sure they're compliant with the building requirements and all that stuff, and then give them the permit with those variances, correct?

1140
01:48:31,490 --> 01:48:31,850
Yes.

1141
01:48:32,130 --> 01:48:33,410
Okay. Thank you.

1142
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:36,880
Is there a motion to close up here?

1143
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:38,600
Can I ask another question?

1144
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:43,300
Oh, I'm sorry. It's sort of hard to hear you, but go ahead.

1145
01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:50,440
I'm not there but does anybody know if the way that the barn is built now if it

1146
01:48:50,440 --> 01:48:52,220
will pass inspection? I

1147
01:48:54,330 --> 01:48:58,430
have to. I'm assuming that's if we can defer to the

1148
01:48:58,430 --> 01:49:02,250
building official. Sure yeah they haven't permitted it yet so it hasn't been

1149
01:49:02,250 --> 01:49:06,530
evaluated that last condition is intended to make sure that we have the

1150
01:49:06,530 --> 01:49:10,790
time to do that and if it is not meet code they'll have to modify it to meet

1151
01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:19,570
code or take it down. Okay. Did you hear him, Mr Smith? I did. Okay. Thank you. All right.

1152
01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:28,950
Do it. Get a motion to close. Motion to close a second. Second. All right. Any further

1153
01:49:30,190 --> 01:49:38,410
call for the motion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed. And the motion

1154
01:49:38,410 --> 01:49:45,350
carries unanimously. All right, is there a motion regarding the proposed variance?

1155
01:49:47,630 --> 01:49:57,840
There is a with the conditions. All right, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion?

1156
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:07,720
Yes, I would like to ask a question about the fees that would have been paid and since they weren't,

1157
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:16,080
It wasn't done by the cold. Is there any restitution that is due to the county?

1158
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:22,860
If we allow this, do they still just get the regular permit amount?

1159
01:50:23,660 --> 01:50:31,940
Or is there a penalty? Or is there anything that we should levy on them for not following the cold?

1160
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:40,380
Commissioner Smith, with respect to any fine, that could be done through the magistrate court.

1161
01:50:41,060 --> 01:50:44,980
They would have to have a citation issued, and then it would have to code enforcement

1162
01:50:44,980 --> 01:50:48,560
taken before the magistrate court. They'd be entitled to a trial on that.

1163
01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:52,340
But they're required to pay the permitting process.

1164
01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,340
Yeah, they're required to pay this. I'm talking about for failing, yes.

1165
01:50:55,340 --> 01:51:00,520
And Commissioner Smith, if you recall, excuse me, in the past there have been times where

1166
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:05,640
this board has considered in a situation like this where they doubled the permit fee to

1167
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:10,420
address the non-compliance, if you will, looking back, but that's not recommended as

1168
01:51:10,420 --> 01:51:13,980
part of the four conditions before you tonight, so they would just pay the normal permit

1169
01:51:13,980 --> 01:51:14,280
fee.

1170
01:51:17,060 --> 01:51:17,680
I hear you.

1171
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:19,060
Thank you.

1172
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:20,440
Okay.

1173
01:51:23,060 --> 01:51:24,340
Your motion is second.

1174
01:51:24,340 --> 01:51:27,460
We have a motion and a second

1175
01:51:28,620 --> 01:51:36,140
Ready for the vote all in favor say aye. Aye all opposed by like sign. I

1176
01:51:36,140 --> 01:51:42,200
Didn't hear you mr. Smith. I'm voting in affirmation. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So

1177
01:51:42,980 --> 01:51:44,400
Motion carries unanimously.

1178
01:51:46,450 --> 01:51:49,030
All right going to item number four

1179
01:51:51,380 --> 01:51:53,260
public hearing petition number

1180
01:51:53,260 --> 01:52:03,960
C-O-N-D-U-S-E conditional use, 25-01, filed by Page Doc Weiler, requesting a neighborhood

1181
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:13,020
agricultural conditional use permit for property located at 9210 East Highway 16 Senoa District

1182
01:52:13,020 --> 01:52:13,520
1.

1183
01:52:13,820 --> 01:52:16,520
Ms. Blackwell, you're going to present that as well.

1184
01:52:16,940 --> 01:52:17,540
Yes.

1185
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:22,120
So we have applicant Page Doc Weiler requesting a conditional use permit under

1186
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:28,260
Petition 2501. The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit under Article 7,

1187
01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:37,100
Section 75, Item 10, for a neighborhood agribusiness on property located at 9210 Highway 16 in

1188
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:44,080
Sonoy which is zoned RC Rural Conservation. Here is an aerial view of this part of Sonoy.

1189
01:52:44,380 --> 01:52:50,660
You can see Highway 16 in the subject property which is approximately 12.81 acres. The surrounding

1190
01:52:50,660 --> 01:52:56,980
surrounding properties are zoned RC. The most affected property owner to the south is in

1191
01:52:56,980 --> 01:53:05,800
support of the conditional use permit. So the same people in the last variance. They're

1192
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:06,100
in support.

1193
01:53:10,220 --> 01:53:15,780
The applicant, a partial owner of Doc Brown Farm and Distillers, a family-owned small

1194
01:53:15,780 --> 01:53:22,200
batch craft distiller, proposes to introduce agritourism activities on site. Currently

1195
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:27,080
Early heirloom corn is grown on the property and spirits are distilled off-site at the

1196
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,720
distillery of modern art in Atlanta.

1197
01:53:30,620 --> 01:53:35,840
Some of the proposed activities include educational tours and workshops, retail sales consisting

1198
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:43,840
of Doc Brown branded merchandise and spirits, events and experiences including spirit tastings

1199
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:45,380
and weekend food truck events.

1200
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:50,840
The applicants have proposed the operational hours for this neighborhood agricultural business

1201
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:54,860
to be Thursday through Saturday, 10 a.m. to 8 p.m.

1202
01:53:57,740 --> 01:54:00,760
And here is the site plan that was submitted with the application.

1203
01:54:03,580 --> 01:54:08,980
They are proposing placing a barn right about here,

1204
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:13,240
and a pollinator garden and cornfields.

1205
01:54:19,500 --> 01:54:22,120
Here are renderings of the proposed main building,

1206
01:54:22,620 --> 01:54:25,980
a barn that is approximately 2,400 square feet.

1207
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,880
Here are photos staff took of the property.

1208
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:35,780
The top photo was taken on the subject property looking towards the applicant

1209
01:54:35,780 --> 01:54:44,480
tome. The second photo is looking towards the road and the side of the

1210
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:44,800
property.

1211
01:54:48,900 --> 01:54:52,100
The community development department submits the following factors

1212
01:54:52,100 --> 01:54:57,680
for consideration. The neighborhood agribusiness conditional use permit is

1213
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:01,980
consistent with the recommendation of the comprehensive land use plan to

1214
01:55:01,980 --> 01:55:07,140
protect the quality of residential areas, protect the county's natural resources through

1215
01:55:07,140 --> 01:55:12,380
best management practices and controlling erosion and water quality, and to support

1216
01:55:12,380 --> 01:55:17,640
agricultural activities where they can remain a vital part of Caledas economy.

1217
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:24,360
The proposed neighborhood agribusiness is a consistent agricultural activity in the

1218
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,160
RC zoning district.

1219
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:31,740
Based on staff comments and recommended conditions, the proposed use should not have any

1220
01:55:31,740 --> 01:55:38,400
adverse impact on public facilities and the request is made under conditional

1221
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:43,560
uses in the RC zoning district under the neighborhood agribusiness which allows

1222
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:47,620
for commercial type activity if the request is approved.

1223
01:55:51,630 --> 01:55:52,490
Should the board

1224
01:55:52,490 --> 01:55:56,990
approve this request the community development department submits the

1225
01:55:56,990 --> 01:56:01,750
following conditions for consideration. One, all Coweta County Code of

1226
01:56:01,750 --> 01:56:06,450
ordinances shall be adhered to unless a variance is granted through the normal review process.

1227
01:56:07,070 --> 01:56:12,990
Two, the driveway shall be paved for the first 100 feet and shall be a minimum of 20 feet wide.

1228
01:56:13,590 --> 01:56:20,450
Three, all applicable ADA and Georgia accessibility requirements will have to be met. This will

1229
01:56:20,450 --> 01:56:25,590
include adequate paved handicap parking and a compliance certification letter from a registered

1230
01:56:25,590 --> 01:56:29,530
professional before the site can be licensed for business or buildings occupied.

1231
01:56:29,530 --> 01:56:35,490
4. Applicants shall provide adequate and accessible plumbing facilities to the public.

1232
01:56:36,050 --> 01:56:45,750
5. The applicant shall provide a more detailed site plan to the development review division prior to the permitting of any building or licensing of the business.

1233
01:56:46,270 --> 01:56:54,630
6. The applicant shall obtain a land disturbance permit within a 12 month period beginning the next business day following approval by the board.

1234
01:56:54,630 --> 01:56:59,830
If the applicant fails to do so, the Board may initiate revocation of the conditional

1235
01:56:59,830 --> 01:57:00,510
use permit.

1236
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:04,580
7.

1237
01:57:05,260 --> 01:57:10,840
The proposed new structures must be 100 feet from any property line unless a variance is

1238
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:11,140
granted.

1239
01:57:11,620 --> 01:57:11,860
8.

1240
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:18,880
Any site and building lighting installed shall incorporate downcast full cutoff fixtures

1241
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:23,040
to prevent adjacent properties and streets from being affected by glare or direct

1242
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:23,720
illumination.

1243
01:57:24,140 --> 01:57:24,420
9.

1244
01:57:24,420 --> 01:57:31,840
The applicant shall resolve any drainage or site development issues affecting the Georgia Department of Transportation right away.

1245
01:57:32,620 --> 01:57:44,280
10. The owner-operator shall agree to work with the county in good faith to address any concerns or complaints related to odor, glare, noise, or similar objectionable features.

1246
01:57:45,180 --> 01:57:53,000
11. The day's hours of operations and activities shall be limited to Thursday through Saturday, 10 a.m. to 8 p.m.

1247
01:57:53,000 --> 01:58:00,820
12. All applicable requirements of the local, state, and federal alcohol laws shall be met.

1248
01:58:01,220 --> 01:58:12,480
13. Prior to commencing any on-site activities, the applicant must obtain a certificate of completion occupancy and a business license for the site.

1249
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,520
And here's that site plan again. Any questions for staff?

1250
01:58:19,580 --> 01:58:20,480
Yes, Nicole.

1251
01:58:20,900 --> 01:58:21,180
Yes.

1252
01:58:21,180 --> 01:58:24,920
Can you go back to the land disturbance clause,

1253
01:58:27,680 --> 01:58:31,180
where I think they had 12 months to do the

1254
01:58:31,180 --> 01:58:40,920
land preparation and is that 12 months for a conditional use permit and 18 for other

1255
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:41,720
type of construction?

1256
01:58:44,100 --> 01:58:54,020
I guess, historically, we have been giving 12 months, but you're welcome to make it whatever

1257
01:58:54,020 --> 01:58:54,440
you like.

1258
01:58:55,140 --> 01:58:58,780
Well, I just thought it should be consistent with other land use projects.

1259
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:05,600
So if we give an 18 for others, I'm just wondering, was that a typo or is it designed

1260
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:06,560
to be less?

1261
01:59:07,220 --> 01:59:09,940
Commissioner Smith, I think part of the discussion, and I don't want to speak

1262
01:59:09,940 --> 01:59:14,780
for Mr. Ameson or Mr. Sewell is the scope of the project and the size of the property.

1263
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:19,100
I think staff those like 12 months is adequate for this size project.

1264
01:59:22,020 --> 01:59:22,400
Okay.

1265
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:27,940
I was just curious as to why it was 18 on 1 and 12 on another.

1266
01:59:30,450 --> 01:59:31,290
Thank you, Michael.

1267
01:59:35,180 --> 01:59:37,360
Does the applicant wish to speak on this?

1268
01:59:41,090 --> 01:59:41,730
I can.

1269
01:59:42,650 --> 01:59:43,710
I'm Amy Brown.

1270
01:59:44,210 --> 01:59:48,450
I'm the Brown of Dot Brown Farm and Dot Brown Farm and Distillers.

1271
01:59:48,450 --> 01:59:58,530
220 years ago Matthew Brown left Scotland and landed through Charleston and hit Hog Mountain, Georgia.

1272
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,500
Page Dock Mountain, Georgia is. It's right at the mall of Georgia. His first and only career

1273
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:19,520
was farming. Ever since that time, for 220 years, my family has had a farmer consistently in

1274
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:27,580
the family. And that mantle has now fell on my shoulders to carry on that legacy. And also

1275
02:00:27,580 --> 02:00:33,480
So with me tonight is Paige Dockwaller of The Dock and my son Danny, which this will

1276
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:37,780
be transferred to his generation as it goes on.

1277
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,840
Farming is critical to the United States of America.

1278
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:46,020
It is critical to every city and every town.

1279
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:54,180
And how we farm is critical to the regeneration and the restoring of our land that has

1280
02:00:54,180 --> 02:00:55,280
been harmed.

1281
02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:02,760
We use zero chemicals such as Roundup, our corn is non-genetically modified corn,

1282
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:08,800
our abruzy rye is also non-genetically modified, which means that we can't

1283
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:15,560
spray it with harsh chemicals and put toxins in air or into the ground. We

1284
02:01:15,560 --> 02:01:21,160
balance our ecosystem with the use of bees, I have one on tonight, with the

1285
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:27,940
use of bats and owls. Y'all can study how that's done, but we've done a beautiful job

1286
02:01:27,940 --> 02:01:37,420
at balancing the ecosystem around us. Daily, daily, I get calls, texts, emails, Facebook

1287
02:01:37,420 --> 02:01:46,560
messaging. Can we come see a farm? And for years we have said no or hey come visit us

1288
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:52,580
and we walk them around the farm and we show them what we do and how we do it.

1289
02:01:53,200 --> 02:02:01,360
That demand is growing by the day. Every single day, many, many times a day, I get calls, texts and emails.

1290
02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:12,080
Our whole goal in doing this is to educate people about the necessity of the American farmer

1291
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:19,500
and the American way of life which this country was founded on by my family in 1816.

1292
02:02:20,460 --> 02:02:28,200
So we appreciate the opportunity and I would like to commend the staff that

1293
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:32,540
have we have all worked with and met with and they've been out to the farm

1294
02:02:32,540 --> 02:02:38,300
they visited us they've been nothing but delightful to work with. We love

1295
02:02:38,300 --> 02:02:43,820
being a part of this community and we want to showcase the rural side and the farming

1296
02:02:43,820 --> 02:02:48,480
side of Cali County and have folks visit our farm.

1297
02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:50,580
So thank you for this opportunity.

1298
02:02:51,540 --> 02:02:51,920
Thank you.

1299
02:02:55,170 --> 02:02:58,310
Are there any signed up to speak?

1300
02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:59,650
No, Mr. Chairman.

1301
02:02:59,950 --> 02:03:02,850
No one signed up to speak in support or opposition to this public hearing.

1302
02:03:05,060 --> 02:03:09,020
The motion to close the public hearing.

1303
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:09,720
Second.

1304
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:20,500
any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? All opposed by the same sign? Carries unanimously.

1305
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:29,420
All right. And I guess we need to call for a motion regarding the proposed variance.

1306
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:34,460
I'll make a motion to approve the CEP with conditions as presented.

1307
02:03:34,460 --> 02:03:43,020
All right. You heard that motion. Is there any further? You heard the motion and you

1308
02:03:43,020 --> 02:03:49,420
heard the second. Is there any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor say aye.

1309
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:55,000
Aye. Aye. Aye. All opposed by the same. It carries unanimously. Thank you very much.

1310
02:03:57,330 --> 02:03:57,870
Good

1311
02:03:57,870 --> 02:03:58,690
luck on your farming.

1312
02:04:01,180 --> 02:04:04,480
There was one thing though Mr. Chairman that she forgot to mention

1313
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:12,000
and that's an all-woman-run business. So that's something to send kudos to.

1314
02:04:16,090 --> 02:04:22,970
Okay. We've done the setback. We've done the conditional use. We're down to number five.

1315
02:04:23,810 --> 02:04:35,990
Public hearing regarding petition number VAR 24-20 and number VAR 25-01 filed by Seth Lee Tarpley

1316
02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:41,670
requesting buffer and setback variances for property located on Cowey to Herd

1317
02:04:41,670 --> 02:04:48,710
Road in unincorporated Cowey to County District 2. Ms. Blackwell you seem to

1318
02:04:48,710 --> 02:04:56,750
have the high number tonight so carry on. Applicant Seth Tarpley is requesting

1319
02:04:56,750 --> 02:05:03,850
variances under petition 2420 and 2501. Applicant is requesting a variance

1320
02:05:03,850 --> 02:05:12,890
under Article 21 Section 214.1a and b for stream buffer and setback reductions for structures that

1321
02:05:12,890 --> 02:05:18,230
have already been placed on the property located at 1127 Coweta Herd Road.

1322
02:05:21,150 --> 02:05:22,150
Here you can see where

1323
02:05:22,150 --> 02:05:30,350
the property is located relative to Coweta Herd Road. The subject property is approximately 30.63 acres.

1324
02:05:30,350 --> 02:05:31,670
The

1325
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:40,880
applicant intends to construct a home on the property.

1326
02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:54,940
However, a stop work order was issued in October of 2022 after a site plan review revealed that two structures had been built without the necessary permits and without meeting ordinance requirements.

1327
02:05:58,910 --> 02:06:05,730
The two structures are this log cabin and this metal barn.

1328
02:06:07,010 --> 02:06:10,850
The metal barn is actually two separate accessory buildings.

1329
02:06:11,290 --> 02:06:20,190
Construction of the proposed new home right here remains on hold until these issues are resolved.

1330
02:06:24,020 --> 02:06:26,580
Here are some pictures stuff took of the property.

1331
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:34,660
Again, applicant is applying for variances so that he and his family can build their home on their property.

1332
02:06:41,180 --> 02:06:43,140
First, let's take a look at the log cabin.

1333
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:51,740
The applicant is seeking relief from the 25-foot state water buffer and the county's stream

1334
02:06:51,740 --> 02:06:54,380
corridor protection buffer and setback requirements.

1335
02:06:55,280 --> 02:07:00,700
This cabin was originally a pole barn and was later converted into a cabin after the

1336
02:07:00,700 --> 02:07:02,180
applicant purchased the property.

1337
02:07:03,260 --> 02:07:05,800
No building or septic permits were obtained.

1338
02:07:06,440 --> 02:07:10,620
The log cabin does not meet the minimum square footage requirement for a primary

1339
02:07:10,620 --> 02:07:17,480
residential dwelling. If considered an accessory structure, the parcel lacks a

1340
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:23,060
primary structure and it encroaches on the 25-foot state water buffer in the

1341
02:07:23,060 --> 02:07:27,760
county stream corridor protection buffers and setback requirements. The

1342
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:32,980
applicant has proposed the following mitigation measures. The installation of

1343
02:07:32,980 --> 02:07:37,280
gutters with rain barrel collection systems to capture runoff and the

1344
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:38,820
removal of the septic system.

1345
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:48,020
Then we have the metal barn, Variance 2501. The

1346
02:07:48,020 --> 02:07:51,640
applicant seeks relief from the county's stream corridor protection buffer and

1347
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:55,800
setback requirements. The metal barn consists of two accessory structures

1348
02:07:55,800 --> 02:08:00,700
built after the applicant purchased the property. While labeled a metal barn

1349
02:08:00,700 --> 02:08:05,140
on the site plan, the structures are currently being used as storage for

1350
02:08:05,140 --> 02:08:09,740
items unrelated to farming, including windows and doors for the proposed

1351
02:08:09,740 --> 02:08:15,580
future home. If the structures are considered barns they do not meet the

1352
02:08:15,580 --> 02:08:21,680
100-foot barn setback requirement. No building permits were obtained. The two

1353
02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:26,100
accessory structures are less than 10 feet apart violating setback

1354
02:08:26,100 --> 02:08:30,620
requirements and the structure on the right encroaches on the county's

1355
02:08:30,620 --> 02:08:32,380
stream corridor protection buffers.

1356
02:08:35,580 --> 02:08:37,360
Consideration for a variance request

1357
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:42,280
The request must be reviewed by the seven factors under Article 28 of the Cahuilla County

1358
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:44,360
Zoning and Development Ordinance.

1359
02:08:45,140 --> 02:08:51,180
Highlighted factors are the intent of the ordinance is to provide protection to state

1360
02:08:51,180 --> 02:08:58,140
waters and removal of the structures may adversely impact the stream more so than

1361
02:08:58,140 --> 02:08:59,140
allowing it to remain.

1362
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:08,860
Should the Board approve this request, the Community Development Department is

1363
02:09:08,860 --> 02:09:14,740
submitting the following conditions for consideration for Variance 2420, the log cabin.

1364
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:21,340
1. Applicants shall provide to the county all necessary building and engineering plans,

1365
02:09:21,700 --> 02:09:26,620
inspections and certifications for building officials approval and certificate of occupancy

1366
02:09:26,620 --> 02:09:33,000
and completion issuances. If the building official deems it an impossibility, then the applicant

1367
02:09:33,000 --> 02:09:38,120
Applicant shall obtain a demolition permit and remove the structures and re-stabilize

1368
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:40,460
all disturbance with permanent vegetation.

1369
02:09:41,220 --> 02:09:41,300
2.

1370
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:46,660
Applicant shall provide approved stormwater runoff mitigation for encroachments into

1371
02:09:46,660 --> 02:09:54,760
the buffers as approved by the county development review staff and inspected by the county

1372
02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:55,700
development inspector.

1373
02:09:56,540 --> 02:09:57,400
3.

1374
02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:03,600
3. If the log cabin is allowed to remain as per condition number 1, then the applicant

1375
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:09,700
shall provide a deed restriction for the log cabin to be used as a guest house under

1376
02:10:09,700 --> 02:10:15,520
the guest house provisions of the Caledic County Code of Ordinances. If not allowed

1377
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:20,980
as a guest house, the applicant shall amend or demo the structure as directed by the

1378
02:10:20,980 --> 02:10:21,320
4.

1379
02:10:23,580 --> 02:10:27,540
The structure shall not encroach any further into the state and county stream

1380
02:10:27,540 --> 02:10:29,460
water protection buffers or setbacks.

1381
02:10:33,090 --> 02:10:35,870
The existing unpermitted septic

1382
02:10:35,870 --> 02:10:41,970
absorption field shall be removed. 6. If it is determined that no new septic

1383
02:10:41,970 --> 02:10:46,730
system can be permitted for the cabin, water service must be disconnected from

1384
02:10:46,730 --> 02:10:51,110
the log cabin. All plumbing fixtures shall be removed and the structure

1385
02:10:51,110 --> 02:10:55,790
shall be documented as a non-dwelling unit through a deed restriction.

1386
02:10:56,630 --> 02:11:04,030
7. All buildings shall be reviewed by a state licensed engineer to confirm conformance with the adopted building codes

1387
02:11:04,030 --> 02:11:08,570
and shall be documented and submitted to the building official for review and approval.

1388
02:11:09,310 --> 02:11:18,550
8. Applicants shall provide these above conditions prior to the release of the in-place stop work order for the residential house.

1389
02:11:18,550 --> 02:11:25,490
9. The applicant shall apply for any additional variances as may be determined at a later

1390
02:11:25,490 --> 02:11:25,870
date.

1391
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:37,780
As for the metal barns, should the Board approve this request, the Community Development

1392
02:11:37,780 --> 02:11:44,140
Department is submitting the following conditions for consideration for variance 2501, the

1393
02:11:44,140 --> 02:11:50,600
metal barn. 1. Applicant shall provide to the county all necessary building and engineering

1394
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:56,120
plans, inspections and certifications for building officials approval and certificate

1395
02:11:56,120 --> 02:12:02,060
of occupancy and completion issuances. If the building official deems it is an impossibility,

1396
02:12:02,540 --> 02:12:07,860
then the applicant shall obtain a demolition permit and remove the structure and restabilize

1397
02:12:07,860 --> 02:12:14,540
all disturbance with permanent vegetation too. Applicant shall provide approved stormwater

1398
02:12:14,540 --> 02:12:20,040
runoff mitigation for encroachments into the buffers as approved by the county

1399
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:24,720
county development review staff and inspected by the county development inspector.

1400
02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:32,120
Three, if the metal barn is allowed to remain as per condition number one, then the applicant

1401
02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:37,000
shall provide an acknowledgement of intent letter and deed restriction to the county

1402
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:43,240
building permits and inspection staff that the structure is not used as an agricultural

1403
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:48,160
use barn unless a setback variance is approved by the Board of Commissioners.

1404
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:55,460
4. The structure shall not encroach any further into the county's stream water

1405
02:12:55,460 --> 02:12:57,040
protection buffers or setbacks.

1406
02:12:59,580 --> 02:13:03,180
5. The two accessory structures that make up the

1407
02:13:03,180 --> 02:13:07,740
metal barn shall be connected into one unified accessory structure unless a

1408
02:13:07,740 --> 02:13:12,680
variance is applied for and approved by the Board. 6. The utilization of

1409
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:18,040
rain barrels. Collecting water from gutter runoff shall be required or some other form

1410
02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:24,540
of approved stormwater runoff mitigation. 7. All buildings shall be reviewed by a state

1411
02:13:24,540 --> 02:13:29,160
licensed engineer to confirm conformance with the adopted building codes and shall

1412
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:34,940
be documented and submitted to the building official for review and approval. 8. Applicants

1413
02:13:34,940 --> 02:13:40,260
shall provide these above conditions prior to the release of the in-place stop-work

1414
02:13:40,260 --> 02:13:45,680
order for the residential house nine the applicant shall apply for any additional

1415
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:50,060
variances as it may be determined at a later date and

1416
02:13:53,740 --> 02:13:54,680
there's a site plan any

1417
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:55,620
questions for staff

1418
02:14:04,420 --> 02:14:08,260
so the cabin has plumbing and

1419
02:14:10,310 --> 02:14:12,250
an unpermitted septic

1420
02:14:12,250 --> 02:14:19,410
sitting next to a stream is that is that what I heard yes and

1421
02:14:23,090 --> 02:14:24,450
and they so

1422
02:14:24,450 --> 02:14:27,730
So when did they, they came to you first in October of 2022?

1423
02:14:28,510 --> 02:14:29,970
That's when you made them aware of this?

1424
02:14:31,570 --> 02:14:37,350
I believe that, was it the building department became aware of this when they submitted plans,

1425
02:14:37,730 --> 02:14:41,370
site plans for their home that they would like to build.

1426
02:14:44,050 --> 02:14:46,490
So almost two years ago, that's what you're saying.

1427
02:14:50,260 --> 02:14:51,460
How old is the cabin?

1428
02:14:51,740 --> 02:14:52,420
Where was it built?

1429
02:14:52,420 --> 02:14:59,500
Originally it was a pole barn. They purchased the property in...

1430
02:15:02,220 --> 02:15:11,280
Commissioner, if I may. According to what I found on Google Earth imagery, upon the poe barn,

1431
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:21,940
which was later converted into the log cabin, was built between 2012 and 2015. The applicants

1432
02:15:22,680 --> 02:15:29,120
didn't purchase the property until 2017. So the poe barn was already there before they

1433
02:15:29,120 --> 02:15:34,560
purchased the property. But it's my understanding that they continued with

1434
02:15:34,560 --> 02:15:40,700
improvements on the what we're calling the log cabin. And this is going to be a

1435
02:15:40,700 --> 02:15:45,860
primary residence or just a getaway place? No sir, they want to build their

1436
02:15:45,860 --> 02:15:53,760
primary residence. This was simply a log cabin that they had built. They

1437
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:57,680
want to permit it as a guest house. Well that's kind of what staff was

1438
02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:02,920
thinking that you guys were okay with them leaving it, you know that we needed

1439
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:10,800
some way to handle it, it being a separate dwelling, but it's kind of hard

1440
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:17,460
as this was a hard one. Does it have power? Yes sir. So you made a comment too

1441
02:16:17,460 --> 02:16:26,000
that I guess by removing it or letting it stay, you know there, in other words if

1442
02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:28,720
you're moving may cause more damage and if you just let it stay can you

1443
02:16:28,720 --> 02:16:36,480
expand on that? Yes, sir. I can. Well, I, you know, just demolishing it would cause land

1444
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:40,220
disturbance within the buffer. You know, it's there. Everything's stable.

1445
02:16:40,680 --> 02:16:47,820
Everything's stable now, but they move it or have to tear it down. You know, it's

1446
02:16:47,820 --> 02:16:51,920
going to cause some land disturbance that, you know, could impact the state

1447
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:58,700
water. But the septic could already be doing that. Could be. Yeah. Do we

1448
02:16:58,700 --> 02:17:01,720
We know what kind of flooring this log Kevin has it.

1449
02:17:02,340 --> 02:17:03,640
I don't know, sir.

1450
02:17:03,940 --> 02:17:05,200
I mean, is it a concrete floor?

1451
02:17:05,900 --> 02:17:07,680
I guess we can ask him.

1452
02:17:08,020 --> 02:17:08,120
Yes.

1453
02:17:08,660 --> 02:17:08,920
OK.

1454
02:17:10,920 --> 02:17:11,780
I have a question.

1455
02:17:12,660 --> 02:17:13,000
Yes, sir.

1456
02:17:13,900 --> 02:17:17,260
I thought that I heard if you tear the barn down,

1457
02:17:17,980 --> 02:17:21,280
it could cause more damage than it could solve.

1458
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:25,220
Now, maybe it was the cabin.

1459
02:17:25,880 --> 02:17:28,100
But I thought they said if you tear the barn down,

1460
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:29,780
it would also be a detriment.

1461
02:17:32,990 --> 02:17:33,330
Well it could.

1462
02:17:33,530 --> 02:17:33,730
Nicole?

1463
02:17:34,250 --> 02:17:34,650
Yes sir.

1464
02:17:35,250 --> 02:17:35,730
Yes sir.

1465
02:17:35,870 --> 02:17:43,010
I think either one that encroaches the buffer, the idea of the buffer is to remain undisturbed.

1466
02:17:43,330 --> 02:17:51,090
But you know honestly I think staff has given you guys an opportunity to go either way depending on how you feel about it.

1467
02:17:51,090 --> 02:17:56,970
But again the septic could be encroaching on the water and the stream buffer right now as we speak.

1468
02:17:56,970 --> 02:18:02,790
But either way, will the septic have to come out, the septic has to come out either way?

1469
02:18:02,910 --> 02:18:04,530
I would think so, yes sir.

1470
02:18:05,450 --> 02:18:08,630
On the log, there's no septic for the...

1471
02:18:08,630 --> 02:18:10,870
Not that I'm aware of. That's right.

1472
02:18:11,230 --> 02:18:16,710
So if they can't perk, according to the septic permit they can't perk, then you can't put plumbing in there.

1473
02:18:17,010 --> 02:18:17,310
Correct.

1474
02:18:17,690 --> 02:18:17,950
Okay.

1475
02:18:20,630 --> 02:18:24,950
But the problem here is it's too close to the lake to leave the septic intact.

1476
02:18:25,370 --> 02:18:25,490
Yeah.

1477
02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:33,470
They, I'm not sure exactly where the septic is located, but the log cabin encroaches both

1478
02:18:33,470 --> 02:18:37,190
the county and it encroaches the state water buffer just a little bit, too.

1479
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:44,130
If you look around Catter County, there'd be a thousand grandfather cabins that have

1480
02:18:44,130 --> 02:18:44,490
something.

1481
02:18:45,130 --> 02:18:47,950
I mean, that world didn't come into the 80s, maybe?

1482
02:18:49,750 --> 02:18:50,910
75, I believe.

1483
02:18:51,350 --> 02:18:51,750
75.

1484
02:18:52,690 --> 02:18:56,810
I think the problem with this Commissioner Lightburn is it was a

1485
02:18:56,810 --> 02:19:02,210
bull barn and sometime after that they've continued to add on to make it a

1486
02:19:02,210 --> 02:19:06,870
dwelling that does not meet the ordinance. One of my concerns also is as I

1487
02:19:06,870 --> 02:19:10,010
understand there's no assigned address to the property because it's not a

1488
02:19:10,010 --> 02:19:13,670
permitted dwelling. So from a public safety standpoint we we wouldn't know

1489
02:19:13,670 --> 02:19:17,950
how to respond to this address today. So we're looking for some direction on

1490
02:19:17,950 --> 02:19:20,030
how to deal with it, but that's another consideration.

1491
02:19:21,930 --> 02:19:25,050
Now, you're talking about the address having the number on it.

1492
02:19:25,190 --> 02:19:28,410
Will that go for the house, or does that go for the log cabin?

1493
02:19:29,330 --> 02:19:30,090
Well, will it be separate?

1494
02:19:30,510 --> 02:19:31,970
Currently, there's no address, I believe.

1495
02:19:32,330 --> 02:19:32,710
That's correct.

1496
02:19:32,930 --> 02:19:34,850
I mean, if we were to.

1497
02:19:35,810 --> 02:19:37,230
If you guys were to approve it, that

1498
02:19:37,230 --> 02:19:39,350
would give staff the latitude to sign an address

1499
02:19:39,850 --> 02:19:40,810
if it was a guest home.

1500
02:19:41,290 --> 02:19:41,870
Oh, OK.

1501
02:19:42,130 --> 02:19:43,050
If it's a guest home.

1502
02:19:43,130 --> 02:19:43,310
Correct.

1503
02:19:43,730 --> 02:19:45,550
Today, it's not registered as anything

1504
02:19:45,550 --> 02:19:46,950
as an unpermitted structure.

1505
02:19:46,950 --> 02:19:55,130
sure. Okay. So do I understand it correctly that the home is occupied now? No. No, the

1506
02:19:55,130 --> 02:20:00,530
applicants do not live in that cabin. Do we have a time frame of when the primary structure

1507
02:20:00,530 --> 02:20:06,090
is to be started under construction? I'm not sure. I think they're just waiting tonight

1508
02:20:06,090 --> 02:20:11,810
to find out what happens to see if they can, because they originally back in 2022 submitted

1509
02:20:11,810 --> 02:20:13,810
plans for

1510
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:22,560
the house but and that's why it was stopped so I'm sure they would like

1511
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:27,960
to be whatever way you got whatever you decide they would like to build their

1512
02:20:27,960 --> 02:20:34,360
house I guess my next question would be for the applicant or the property

1513
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:45,180
the owner. And that's Seth Lee Tarplin. Can I ask a question first? Yes. It sounds like

1514
02:20:45,180 --> 02:20:52,320
it sounds to me like the cabin and the barn are hazardous to the environment.

1515
02:20:54,820 --> 02:20:56,860
Am I hearing

1516
02:20:56,860 --> 02:21:02,100
that? Anybody else hearing that? It sounds like both of them need to be gotten rid of,

1517
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:08,900
but they're so close to the lake in the stream bed that it's hazardous to leave it there

1518
02:21:08,900 --> 02:21:10,500
and it's hazardous to take it down.

1519
02:21:14,910 --> 02:21:16,190
I think that's a fair statement.

1520
02:21:18,900 --> 02:21:20,740
Have they done any

1521
02:21:20,740 --> 02:21:30,740
environmentals to see if there's any contamination from this? I think we've spent the last couple

1522
02:21:30,740 --> 02:21:35,620
of years trying to, you know, they've hired an attorney to try to help them and they've hired

1523
02:21:35,620 --> 02:21:42,820
an engineer to try to help them and we've tried to reach out to the EPD for some guidance

1524
02:21:42,820 --> 02:21:50,080
or some corrective action and it's just been kind of, I don't think the EPD wants to be

1525
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:54,100
involved in somebody's backyard like this without a complaint.

1526
02:21:56,300 --> 02:21:58,940
We typically have a complaint policy.

1527
02:21:59,220 --> 02:22:04,960
We don't have a complaint on this issue and this is something that staff has been

1528
02:22:04,960 --> 02:22:11,700
and trying to work with the tarplies to try to come up with a solution, the building official

1529
02:22:12,420 --> 02:22:21,000
says that it's likely going to be very difficult for them to bring the log cabin into compliance

1530
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:31,980
with today's regulations, but he doesn't know because, you know, he hasn't really

1531
02:22:31,980 --> 02:22:37,860
investigated it yet or inspected it yet so there's some there's some doubt

1532
02:22:37,860 --> 02:22:42,500
there but and that's why the condition was worded we tried to staff tried to

1533
02:22:42,500 --> 02:22:49,600
word the condition to you know to provide some some I guess an option so if

1534
02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:55,240
they could get it in compliance then okay maybe it's okay but you know but

1535
02:22:55,240 --> 02:23:00,960
But that's, you know, that's irrespective of the, of the septic system issue.

1536
02:23:01,620 --> 02:23:08,640
Well, I mean, I would, I would suggest, I mean, I get, I get the point, but if, you know,

1537
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:13,560
you can, you can do all the inspections, but you can stop, stop the plumbing now.

1538
02:23:14,180 --> 02:23:14,440
Sure.

1539
02:23:14,540 --> 02:23:15,040
You know what I'm saying?

1540
02:23:15,240 --> 02:23:20,780
So it doesn't, the septic, and then if you find a liable, you know, per part of

1541
02:23:20,780 --> 02:23:25,500
property when you put a leak field on me like that, then you've kind of solved some of your

1542
02:23:25,500 --> 02:23:34,620
issues right there. But to me, the plumbing in my opinion should stop now because we don't

1543
02:23:34,620 --> 02:23:36,480
know if it's contaminating the groundwater.

1544
02:23:38,730 --> 02:23:40,970
So it should be used for that purpose right

1545
02:23:40,970 --> 02:23:41,230
now.

1546
02:23:42,330 --> 02:23:42,750
I understand.

1547
02:23:44,900 --> 02:23:49,120
And that would still give them the ability to go out and see if they can perk the

1548
02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:54,120
plan and put in a correct septic system and be able to convert it over.

1549
02:23:54,500 --> 02:23:55,240
So without

1550
02:23:58,920 --> 02:24:03,460
tearing it down yet, and then you go in there and do your inspections and stuff.

1551
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:05,680
I mean, that's what that's what I'm thinking.

1552
02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:12,860
Uh, yo, got any further for all the Africa?

1553
02:24:14,810 --> 02:24:17,870
I guess what I'm saying is that you guys see this as an option.

1554
02:24:18,150 --> 02:24:18,270
I guess.

1555
02:24:18,550 --> 02:24:18,590
Absolutely.

1556
02:24:18,850 --> 02:24:19,930
Would you see that option?

1557
02:24:20,230 --> 02:24:24,910
vibrant to where you just basically stop the flowing now that the right okay

1558
02:24:24,910 --> 02:24:34,070
alright that's fair okay mr. Tarkley would you come up and let us ask you

1559
02:24:34,070 --> 02:24:38,450
some questions or you tell us what you want us to hear whoever's gonna speak

1560
02:24:38,450 --> 02:24:47,110
for you or okay I was gonna say I received a phone call and and they

1561
02:24:47,110 --> 02:24:52,470
were really bragging on they would love to have y'all as neighbors and how nice

1562
02:24:52,470 --> 02:24:58,250
you are and I don't know that much about Seth but I think I've had a little

1563
02:24:58,250 --> 02:25:05,210
contact with you and if you're the part of the top top please that I'm aware

1564
02:25:05,210 --> 02:25:13,810
of but you you're welcome tonight and speak on behalf of y'all's property

1565
02:25:13,810 --> 02:25:14,730
Thank you.

1566
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:23,850
Hey everyone, my name is Shelby Tarpley. I'm here with my husband Seth and our son Rip. Sorry for the toddler outburst tonight.

1567
02:25:23,870 --> 02:25:25,990
Could you give us your address, please?

1568
02:25:26,290 --> 02:25:30,210
We are currently living with my parents in 15 Chinman Place, Sharpsburg.

1569
02:25:30,410 --> 02:25:30,630
Okay.

1570
02:25:30,750 --> 02:25:36,370
But the addressing question that, when we bought it, it was considered 1127, Kalwita heard.

1571
02:25:36,510 --> 02:25:42,510
I'm not sure if that's going to be the address or not, but I just want to say I was a homicide detective for 10 years

1572
02:25:42,510 --> 02:25:49,230
and not once was I worried about court testimony, but if I'm a little flabbergasted, I'm sorry.

1573
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:55,870
But I just want to say, I just want to say thank you for your consideration and kind

1574
02:25:55,870 --> 02:25:58,910
of give you a rundown of what we've been going through the past three years.

1575
02:25:59,370 --> 02:26:02,370
So we bought the property back in 2017.

1576
02:26:03,150 --> 02:26:06,810
My husband proposed to me on the property in 2019.

1577
02:26:06,810 --> 02:26:12,990
we got married on our property in 2020 and it's exactly where we want to build our

1578
02:26:12,990 --> 02:26:19,110
house. Little backstory, before we got married my father-in-law decided to

1579
02:26:19,110 --> 02:26:25,630
build this cabin on our property and at the time it was just a pole barn and when

1580
02:26:25,630 --> 02:26:31,950
we purchased this property we did not know about the water restrictions. We

1581
02:26:31,950 --> 02:26:35,130
just had no idea. You know we were looking at a beautiful piece of property

1582
02:26:35,130 --> 02:26:40,070
where we could come camp come hunt and fish. We'd like to do all the outdoor

1583
02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:48,730
activities so it was just very exciting. He enclosed the cabin and honestly it we

1584
02:26:48,730 --> 02:26:53,090
were just wanting to use it as a spot to do Thanksgiving Christmas just come and

1585
02:26:53,090 --> 02:26:57,770
camp. I mean it was never going to be a guest house or anything of that

1586
02:26:57,770 --> 02:27:01,510
nature. We always wanted to build our home. It was just a place to come

1587
02:27:01,510 --> 02:27:06,990
hang out instead of having to bring campers. And when we went to apply for our build permit

1588
02:27:06,990 --> 02:27:11,870
for our home, you know, we came across all these obstacles and I'll be the first to admit

1589
02:27:11,870 --> 02:27:16,950
I'm the one when I left policing, I cashed out my retirement and I said, I'm going

1590
02:27:16,950 --> 02:27:20,110
to contribute before I'm going to stay at home mom, I'm going to pay for our building

1591
02:27:20,110 --> 02:27:24,310
in our shop. And through recommendations, we had a couple of friends recommend out

1592
02:27:24,310 --> 02:27:30,690
of state company, which is who I hired. And I don't want to say that I really

1593
02:27:30,690 --> 02:27:35,630
didn't look into it further, but I was under the assumption that when you pay this company

1594
02:27:35,630 --> 02:27:43,170
$50,000 that they handle all of the aspects. So I apologize to you. That is my wrongdoing.

1595
02:27:44,310 --> 02:27:50,490
We have suffered for it for the past three years. Sorry. But I would just like to apologize.

1596
02:27:50,750 --> 02:27:54,650
Like I said, we're not trying to be malicious. We're just trying to build our home.

1597
02:27:55,330 --> 02:27:59,250
We've been living between family members for the past three years.

1598
02:27:59,910 --> 02:28:05,990
We started this when my son was one month old. He turns four in June. Sorry.

1599
02:28:07,470 --> 02:28:15,350
We had already paid our builder their builder fee of $30,000. We have already started our home loan.

1600
02:28:15,930 --> 02:28:19,850
We lost our home loan back in December because our concrete was not poured.

1601
02:28:20,470 --> 02:28:27,610
I brought some documents that I can show you where I had to call and write ten page letters to the banks,

1602
02:28:27,610 --> 02:28:31,810
you know giving them the rundown of what we were trying to do. We hired Melissa

1603
02:28:31,810 --> 02:28:36,910
Griffiths and we worked with her and Dan Davis who's an engineer for three

1604
02:28:36,910 --> 02:28:43,210
years. We no longer work with her. I just feel like the last 36,000 dollars

1605
02:28:43,210 --> 02:28:48,290
they got from us it just let us know where. We were doing soil tests, we were

1606
02:28:48,290 --> 02:28:54,310
doing mapping, we had our surveyor at our house every other week. We just

1607
02:28:54,850 --> 02:28:59,170
we felt like we were doing everything that the two of them asked us to do and

1608
02:28:59,170 --> 02:29:04,750
three years later we're still in the same spot so my husband and I went to Mr.

1609
02:29:04,870 --> 02:29:10,150
John and said we're coming to you directly what what can we do we will do

1610
02:29:10,150 --> 02:29:16,710
whatever we need to I just asked that you have some compassion like I said

1611
02:29:16,710 --> 02:29:21,210
we're not trying to be malicious we were just looking for a place to start

1612
02:29:21,210 --> 02:29:26,330
our family. I know that the shop is being called a barn. We don't have livestock or

1613
02:29:26,330 --> 02:29:31,310
anything in there. Right now I have all of my bedroom furniture. We have his jeep, our

1614
02:29:31,310 --> 02:29:36,370
camper boat. We have all of the doors and windows that we already purchased for our home.

1615
02:29:37,230 --> 02:29:42,450
We're currently paying $96,000 back on a home loan that was canceled because we

1616
02:29:42,450 --> 02:29:47,130
already had our grading done. We already ordered materials for our house and they're

1617
02:29:47,130 --> 02:29:49,730
sitting in between the shop and the cabin.

1618
02:29:50,990 --> 02:29:54,610
So I would just, I'm open to answer any questions you have.

1619
02:29:55,430 --> 02:29:58,830
I just ask that you please, you know, look at us is.

1620
02:30:00,460 --> 02:30:06,120
Compassionate humans and just please accept my apology and know that we're not rule breakers.

1621
02:30:06,220 --> 02:30:12,220
Like I said, I was a police officer for 10 years. But at this point, we're going to do what we need to do.

1622
02:30:12,340 --> 02:30:14,920
We just want to build our home and continue growing our family.

1623
02:30:16,660 --> 02:30:20,500
Do you have any questions, commissioners? No. No.

1624
02:30:22,220 --> 02:30:23,680
Thank you. All right. Thank you, guys.

1625
02:30:25,260 --> 02:30:31,160
Mr. Fass, do we have any in support or opposition to this proposed variance?

1626
02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:32,320
No, sir.

1627
02:30:32,420 --> 02:30:34,560
Mr. Chairman, no one signed it to speak on this public hearing.

1628
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:38,980
Motion to close the public hearing.

1629
02:30:39,800 --> 02:30:40,280
Second.

1630
02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:43,040
There is a motion and a second to close the public hearing.

1631
02:30:43,140 --> 02:30:44,040
Any further discussion?

1632
02:30:44,860 --> 02:30:46,220
All in favor say aye.

1633
02:30:46,320 --> 02:30:46,660
Aye.

1634
02:30:47,020 --> 02:30:47,220
Aye.

1635
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:48,740
Those opposed?

1636
02:30:49,880 --> 02:30:50,980
Not hearing any.

1637
02:30:51,620 --> 02:30:53,220
It carries unanimously.

1638
02:30:56,860 --> 02:30:57,800
do we,

1639
02:31:01,610 --> 02:31:07,490
this is in my district and I'm going to, I'm going to muddle through this because

1640
02:31:07,490 --> 02:31:12,550
we're talking about three different things. Let's take the log cap and

1641
02:31:20,810 --> 02:31:23,770
I hear John, you

1642
02:31:23,770 --> 02:31:29,730
and Nicole and others say that it may be more detriment to tear down the existing

1643
02:31:29,730 --> 02:31:36,130
structure than it is to leave it. So this would be my suggestion is to leave the structure

1644
02:31:36,130 --> 02:31:48,570
But take out septic tank. It has not been approved. We don't know if it's leaching into the streams or anything about it.

1645
02:31:48,710 --> 02:31:55,950
Plus I would like for them to get that approved.

1646
02:31:56,350 --> 02:31:57,370
Can I make a comment to that?

1647
02:31:57,370 --> 02:31:57,530
Yes.

1648
02:31:57,530 --> 02:32:04,810
Mr. Chairman, so I would agree with you, but I think removing the septic leaks field would

1649
02:32:04,810 --> 02:32:06,430
be a detriment because you have a land.

1650
02:32:06,770 --> 02:32:07,730
You're disturbing the land.

1651
02:32:07,830 --> 02:32:08,610
Am I right, Mr. Ramison?

1652
02:32:08,770 --> 02:32:13,270
When you pull out the leak field and the septic, so if you let it there, just stop

1653
02:32:13,270 --> 02:32:20,050
it, quit, stop the plumbing from the structure, it would eventually dry itself out and go

1654
02:32:20,050 --> 02:32:20,250
away.

1655
02:32:20,370 --> 02:32:21,430
I mean, so it wouldn't be an impact.

1656
02:32:21,690 --> 02:32:22,730
You wouldn't have disturbed land.

1657
02:32:23,070 --> 02:32:24,370
It would become a dead field.

1658
02:32:24,690 --> 02:32:25,690
Am I correct, Mr. Ramison?

1659
02:32:26,430 --> 02:32:26,970
Yes, sir.

1660
02:32:26,970 --> 02:32:34,690
If I could add, could we involve the Environmental Health Department in doing this, since that's their line of business?

1661
02:32:35,950 --> 02:32:37,970
That's who they'd have to get the permit from, right?

1662
02:32:38,030 --> 02:32:38,350
Yes, sir.

1663
02:32:38,890 --> 02:32:53,640
So, I don't know exactly how to pose that if the environmental folks come back and say it can't be done, but without taking it out.

1664
02:32:53,640 --> 02:33:00,200
but my son-in-law is going through this right now that's why I know they're

1665
02:33:00,200 --> 02:33:05,520
leaving the existing leak field there to die and they put in a new one and that's

1666
02:33:05,520 --> 02:33:09,740
how the EPD did it they just let it go what about the sifted tank itself it

1667
02:33:09,740 --> 02:33:14,200
basically drains itself and it's just it becomes so it's just a empty you need

1668
02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:19,820
to fill it and then cap it fill it with their sand yeah mr. chairman

1669
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:26,160
The recommended conditions were those nine conditions and so far the ones you're

1670
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:31,160
mentioning are already listed the one item number five I believe it is

1671
02:33:31,160 --> 02:33:34,820
condition five the existing unpermitted septic absorption field shall be

1672
02:33:34,820 --> 02:33:38,900
removed so you could simply change that to as directed by environmental health

1673
02:33:38,900 --> 02:33:48,580
and let them handle it if that's the board's pleasure right that down is

1674
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:59,100
Is there water service? They said that there was electricity. I didn't ask about the water

1675
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:00,800
service. Is there well or is it?

1676
02:34:00,940 --> 02:34:01,160
Well.

1677
02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:02,500
I serve city water.

1678
02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:03,940
City water?

1679
02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:04,640
County water.

1680
02:34:04,820 --> 02:34:05,240
County water.

1681
02:34:05,500 --> 02:34:06,040
County water.

1682
02:34:07,440 --> 02:34:07,960
Wow.

1683
02:34:08,880 --> 02:34:09,920
That's interesting.

1684
02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:22,760
Well, my question is still, are they trying to save the cabin? Because I'm going to

1685
02:34:22,760 --> 02:34:29,520
One of them at a time and I want to find out what we're going to do with their log cabin if if anything if this at this point

1686
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:33,340
I think it would be consensus from what I can gather that the cabin remain

1687
02:34:34,100 --> 02:34:38,580
Yeah, my question later. They want to try to turn it into a guest house, which

1688
02:34:39,400 --> 02:34:41,380
Sure, we're not sure if the

1689
02:34:41,900 --> 02:34:46,040
Well, they have to make sure they have to get septic perk and all that stuff. Yeah

1690
02:34:46,680 --> 02:34:48,360
One of the conditions

1691
02:34:49,440 --> 02:34:51,040
Since they're in the stream buffer

1692
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:56,520
they also know not to expand upon the structure in the future as well is that

1693
02:34:56,520 --> 02:35:02,000
in there it's I don't believe that's a condition but we could add that do you

1694
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:06,620
not agree with it yeah no you're right you're right because I mean if they can

1695
02:35:06,620 --> 02:35:10,300
mitigate yes I'm saying they'd mitigate I'm okay with it okay

1696
02:35:12,170 --> 02:35:18,010
that's about you okay with it yes are you recommending staffs recommended nine

1697
02:35:18,010 --> 02:35:26,130
conditions. Change number five. Correct. And just no further expansion. And I don't

1698
02:35:26,130 --> 02:35:29,570
I don't know if number six if it says if it's determined that no septic

1699
02:35:29,570 --> 02:35:32,950
system can be permitted your water service must I mean we're gonna wait

1700
02:35:32,950 --> 02:35:36,890
for that to be done before you discontinue water service or what. Yes

1701
02:35:36,890 --> 02:35:40,290
I'd be determined if the structure cannot be permitted then obviously we

1702
02:35:40,290 --> 02:35:47,310
would move to that next step. Is that something that we need to add? I believe

1703
02:35:47,310 --> 02:35:48,150
I believe it's covered.

1704
02:35:48,870 --> 02:35:50,010
I believe it's covered.

1705
02:35:50,890 --> 02:35:53,130
I think you've got to have, if it's a dwelling,

1706
02:35:53,370 --> 02:35:54,330
you have to have running water.

1707
02:35:55,510 --> 02:35:56,910
So it can't be a dwelling.

1708
02:35:57,470 --> 02:35:58,030
Okay.

1709
02:36:01,540 --> 02:36:03,460
Add the 10th condition of your expansion.

1710
02:36:03,940 --> 02:36:04,500
Yeah.

1711
02:36:05,140 --> 02:36:05,440
Right.

1712
02:36:08,080 --> 02:36:11,740
So that looks like, so we modified 5 and added number 10.

1713
02:36:12,660 --> 02:36:13,380
All right.

1714
02:36:14,480 --> 02:36:16,120
You want to vote on those independently?

1715
02:36:16,580 --> 02:36:20,240
Well, I think we probably need to do so.

1716
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:32,060
we're going to vote on the log cabin first. So I'd make a motion that we allow

1717
02:36:32,060 --> 02:36:39,520
the log cabin with the conditions that are given there are 10 with the where

1718
02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:43,080
nine I think and then we expanded and went to 10.

1719
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:49,680
So that's my motion on the

1720
02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:55,500
allowed cabinet. I'll second. I have a motion to second. Is there any further discussion?

1721
02:36:56,080 --> 02:37:05,660
So was number 10 resolved that the septic field would be allowed to die in the septic

1722
02:37:05,660 --> 02:37:12,560
tank field with sand or dirt? Is that what that's what we're talking? That's modification

1723
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:17,800
for number five, number 10, is they can't expand on the current dwelling. Okay. All

1724
02:37:17,800 --> 02:37:17,940
Alright.

1725
02:37:20,430 --> 02:37:21,370
Thank you, Chairman.

1726
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:26,290
Okay. Anything further? Ready for the question?

1727
02:37:26,810 --> 02:37:28,130
All in favor say aye.

1728
02:37:28,290 --> 02:37:29,710
Aye. All opposed?

1729
02:37:31,630 --> 02:37:33,550
Okay. Carries unanimously.

1730
02:37:35,290 --> 02:37:41,330
On the VAR 2501, which is the metal barn.

1731
02:37:47,960 --> 02:37:51,020
My heart goes out to you when you talk about

1732
02:37:51,660 --> 02:37:59,340
hiring people to and you know you're new to building and that kind of stuff. If my

1733
02:37:59,340 --> 02:38:05,240
heart goes out to you to understand how you can you can be took you know and

1734
02:38:05,240 --> 02:38:07,120
thinking everything is fine.

1735
02:38:13,120 --> 02:38:16,660
Commissions what do y'all how do you feel? I

1736
02:38:16,660 --> 02:38:25,180
really don't have a problem with the metal bond or the two metal buildings

1737
02:38:25,180 --> 02:38:29,980
from whatever they are. I think the only two things that I like it if they

1738
02:38:29,980 --> 02:38:33,500
mitigate just the staff. Yeah that's what I'm saying mitigated for staff

1739
02:38:33,500 --> 02:38:40,420
requests staff conditions that's what I would suggest to you. So I'm assuming

1740
02:38:40,420 --> 02:38:48,220
then is there any other discussion for why make a motion on it? Yes sir I

1741
02:38:48,220 --> 02:38:51,620
would I would like for them to be able to keep the barn because they have

1742
02:38:51,620 --> 02:38:55,920
of building materials and she says they have a bedroom

1743
02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:57,180
suited and stuff like that.

1744
02:38:57,660 --> 02:38:57,780
Yeah.

1745
02:38:59,680 --> 02:39:03,440
But it's so difficult because if you tear it down,

1746
02:39:03,780 --> 02:39:05,700
it's gonna affect the string buffer.

1747
02:39:06,440 --> 02:39:08,680
And if you leave it up, it's gonna affect the string buffer.

1748
02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:11,220
But I think it needs to be demolished,

1749
02:39:11,320 --> 02:39:14,000
but only after she's finished using it for storage.

1750
02:39:16,220 --> 02:39:18,480
I agree with you.

1751
02:39:18,480 --> 02:39:25,380
And I believe that my colleagues are in line with what you were saying.

1752
02:39:26,400 --> 02:39:28,220
So can I ask questions further?

1753
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:38,560
So, Mr. Emerson, based on what Mr. Smith was saying, is if we leave it there until they're,

1754
02:39:38,680 --> 02:39:40,580
I guess, they build their house and you tear it down.

1755
02:39:40,920 --> 02:39:45,560
But I thought he says there, if you tear it down, it can cause more problems than what it's...

1756
02:39:45,560 --> 02:39:46,720
And that's what Mr. Smith said.

1757
02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:59,700
It could. I think staff's recommendation would be to for them to provide mitigation and let it stay there, do some things to do some things environmentally to try to, you know, that's what I saw.

1758
02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:02,600
Okay, so we're just going to mitigate it.

1759
02:40:02,680 --> 02:40:02,960
Okay.

1760
02:40:02,960 --> 02:40:15,860
Okay. Any further? My motion is to approve this request with the conditions as stated

1761
02:40:15,860 --> 02:40:23,800
and that staff will help mitigate this with the owners. That's my motion.

1762
02:40:23,940 --> 02:40:24,940
I'll second through motion.

1763
02:40:25,260 --> 02:40:28,440
All right. Motion is second. Any further discussion?

1764
02:40:28,440 --> 02:40:35,580
So basically as it stands, they're going to leave the cabin and the po-borne shed whatever intact.

1765
02:40:36,020 --> 02:40:38,180
They're going to turn the septic off.

1766
02:40:38,380 --> 02:40:41,740
They're going to turn the septic off until it's deemed okay or not okay.

1767
02:40:42,420 --> 02:40:43,600
I'm good with that.

1768
02:40:43,820 --> 02:40:44,040
Okay.

1769
02:40:46,980 --> 02:40:48,920
Any further questions?

1770
02:40:49,600 --> 02:40:50,200
Comment?

1771
02:40:51,540 --> 02:40:53,920
Hearing none, I'll call for the motion.

1772
02:40:54,140 --> 02:40:55,500
All those in favor say aye.

1773
02:40:55,680 --> 02:40:56,080
Aye.

1774
02:40:56,620 --> 02:40:57,200
Opposed?

1775
02:40:58,660 --> 02:41:01,140
Hearing any, the motion carries unanimously.

1776
02:41:02,800 --> 02:41:11,880
Mr. and Ms. Tarpley, I hope you are able to get in your new home soon and make good neighbors

1777
02:41:12,300 --> 02:41:14,760
to those folks that called me earlier.

1778
02:41:15,760 --> 02:41:16,800
Thank you.

1779
02:41:17,240 --> 02:41:17,560
Thank you.

1780
02:41:18,280 --> 02:41:18,980
All right.

1781
02:41:19,400 --> 02:41:25,020
Number six, public hearing regarding proposed exemptions of certain county vehicles

1782
02:41:25,020 --> 02:41:27,680
goes from state labeling and decal requirements.

1783
02:41:28,480 --> 02:41:29,120
Mr. Fouts.

1784
02:41:29,880 --> 02:41:31,340
Yes, sir, Mr. Chairman and commissioners,

1785
02:41:31,720 --> 02:41:34,640
public hearing is required to exempt certain county owned

1786
02:41:34,640 --> 02:41:38,320
vehicles or leased vehicles from state law that do not have

1787
02:41:38,320 --> 02:41:40,620
a clearly visible decal or seal on the front door

1788
02:41:40,620 --> 02:41:41,620
of each other vehicle.

1789
02:41:42,320 --> 02:41:44,300
We do have four vehicles that are in use

1790
02:41:44,300 --> 02:41:46,040
by the coroner's office and we're asking

1791
02:41:46,040 --> 02:41:49,000
that the board consider approving and executing

1792
02:41:49,000 --> 02:41:51,080
a resolution to exempt those four vehicles

1793
02:41:51,080 --> 02:41:52,840
in use by the coroner's office.

1794
02:41:53,260 --> 02:41:54,780
Since we've done that in the past,

1795
02:41:54,780 --> 02:41:56,540
I'd like to make a motion to approve that.

1796
02:41:56,780 --> 02:41:57,880
You've got to close the public hearing.

1797
02:41:57,920 --> 02:41:58,500
Oh, that's right.

1798
02:41:58,820 --> 02:41:59,780
It is the public hearing.

1799
02:41:59,920 --> 02:42:00,320
I'm sorry.

1800
02:42:00,520 --> 02:42:01,740
I don't got a head of town.

1801
02:42:02,100 --> 02:42:02,960
I'm marching on.

1802
02:42:03,040 --> 02:42:04,220
A motion to close the public hearing.

1803
02:42:04,220 --> 02:42:04,780
There you go.

1804
02:42:05,380 --> 02:42:05,740
Second.

1805
02:42:06,140 --> 02:42:08,300
Just for the record, there is no one here signed up to speak.

1806
02:42:08,800 --> 02:42:09,560
Oh, thank you.

1807
02:42:09,820 --> 02:42:10,120
Thank you.

1808
02:42:10,280 --> 02:42:11,320
We're going to...

1809
02:42:11,820 --> 02:42:13,560
I knew you would have stopped me anyway.

1810
02:42:15,380 --> 02:42:18,500
Motion second, all in favor, close the public hearing.

1811
02:42:18,800 --> 02:42:18,940
Aye.

1812
02:42:19,380 --> 02:42:19,560
Aye.

1813
02:42:19,560 --> 02:42:30,180
motion carries unanimously. All right, now I'll make that motion to approve the

1814
02:42:30,180 --> 02:42:36,520
exemption of these certain county vehicles as described. Since that's what we've done in the past.

1815
02:42:38,600 --> 02:42:46,440
Okay. Got a motion and a second. All in favor say aye.

1816
02:42:46,440 --> 02:42:54,220
Aye. Aye. All opposed by the same motion carries unanimously. Number seven,

1817
02:42:54,660 --> 02:42:59,880
public hearing regarding a proposed abandonment of a portion of Wood Drive

1818
02:42:59,880 --> 02:43:06,740
Noonan District two. Mr. Hanley, you've sat quietly over there the whole

1819
02:43:06,740 --> 02:43:12,740
evening. You'll be on the lineup for a few now. All right. Thank you, Mr.

1820
02:43:12,740 --> 02:43:18,540
Board members, a portion of Wood Drive near its north end previously ran behind an old

1821
02:43:18,540 --> 02:43:20,040
store building that was there.

1822
02:43:20,820 --> 02:43:31,620
And there were site distance issues associated with that store and the intersection of Wood

1823
02:43:31,620 --> 02:43:37,300
Drive and also the parking lot to the store, which was used as a cut through.

1824
02:43:38,080 --> 02:43:42,240
If you pulled up to either of those intersections, you couldn't see traffic approaching because

1825
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:44,620
of the proximity of the store itself.

1826
02:43:45,580 --> 02:43:47,740
So after consultation with the property owner there,

1827
02:43:48,400 --> 02:43:52,500
the county designed to construct a realignment of Wood Drive

1828
02:43:53,210 --> 02:43:55,300
to move the intersection with Turkey Creek Road.

1829
02:43:56,060 --> 02:43:57,980
Since that new alignment has been built,

1830
02:43:58,940 --> 02:44:01,260
the old alignment that ran behind the old store building

1831
02:44:01,260 --> 02:44:02,260
is no longer needed.

1832
02:44:02,680 --> 02:44:05,220
So once before you tonight is the abandonment

1833
02:44:05,220 --> 02:44:06,940
of that old section of Wood Drive

1834
02:44:06,940 --> 02:44:10,200
that ran behind the old store building there.

1835
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:17,060
And this was, this public hearing was advertised as required, so what's before you tonight is

1836
02:44:17,060 --> 02:44:19,540
the official abandonment of that section of Wood Drive.

1837
02:44:20,340 --> 02:44:20,820
Okay.

1838
02:44:21,180 --> 02:44:22,340
Motion to close public hearing.

1839
02:44:22,800 --> 02:44:23,080
Second.

1840
02:44:23,820 --> 02:44:28,240
Motion and wait a minute, I got to find out whether or not there's any comments here.

1841
02:44:28,380 --> 02:44:29,680
There's no one sentence fake, Mr. Chairman.

1842
02:44:30,200 --> 02:44:30,740
Nobody's second.

1843
02:44:30,740 --> 02:44:33,720
See, Bob's just as fast as I am, you know.

1844
02:44:34,620 --> 02:44:35,840
I made the second, yeah.

1845
02:44:36,120 --> 02:44:36,660
Got a second.

1846
02:44:36,660 --> 02:44:43,280
I got a motion and a second to close the public here. All in favor say aye.

1847
02:44:44,160 --> 02:44:49,000
Aye. Motion to approve the record. Second to motion.

1848
02:44:49,300 --> 02:44:54,320
All right. I have a motion second to approve the abandonment of the portion of Wood Drive there.

1849
02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:57,720
Yes, I have a question taught.

1850
02:44:58,220 --> 02:44:58,700
Okay.

1851
02:44:58,700 --> 02:44:59,920
That is, it's the, it's the

1852
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,640
Abandoned roll going to be removed demolished.

1853
02:45:04,440 --> 02:45:09,960
Portions of it have been removed, Commissioner Smith. There were certain parts of it that were

1854
02:45:11,000 --> 02:45:17,140
retained to provide the property owner access to his home and shop building there.

1855
02:45:18,300 --> 02:45:19,740
Okay, thank you.

1856
02:45:21,560 --> 02:45:22,620
Any other questions?

1857
02:45:25,500 --> 02:45:30,560
I have a motion to take it. And any further?

1858
02:45:31,560 --> 02:45:33,040
All in favor say aye.

1859
02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:33,540
Aye.

1860
02:45:33,800 --> 02:45:34,480
All opposed?

1861
02:45:34,960 --> 02:45:35,040
Aye.

1862
02:45:35,600 --> 02:45:36,360
By a like saying.

1863
02:45:37,780 --> 02:45:40,800
And not hearing any, motion carries unanimously.

1864
02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:53,480
We are now out of the public hearing portion of our agenda.

1865
02:45:53,480 --> 02:46:05,420
agenda. And I'm going to ask that any public comments for any item on the agenda, in accordance

1866
02:46:05,420 --> 02:46:10,740
with the rules governing the meeting, up to ten speakers will be afforded three minutes

1867
02:46:10,740 --> 02:46:17,120
to speak. And also, please, I'm going to remind you to be courteous and respectful

1868
02:46:17,120 --> 02:46:20,700
full and holds your comments and so forth.

1869
02:46:24,540 --> 02:46:25,760
Recommendation from community

1870
02:46:25,760 --> 02:46:31,360
development and or the Board of Zoning Appeals. Yes we do have two that has

1871
02:46:31,360 --> 02:46:38,220
signed up to speak. Oh I was going on to and hoping they'd speak one-on-one. Okay

1872
02:46:38,220 --> 02:46:40,240
go ahead. The first is Vicki Hunter.

1873
02:46:42,300 --> 02:46:44,300
I'm sorry miss Hunter I like to try to

1874
02:46:44,300 --> 02:46:45,220
Good

1875
02:46:48,200 --> 02:46:57,400
evening. Thank you for letting me talk to you about something that's very close to my heart, my neighborhood, Lake Hills subdivision.

1876
02:46:57,980 --> 02:47:06,020
When my parents moved there in 1964, I thought I had truly moved to Paradise. It's a wonderful place to grow up.

1877
02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:11,900
I've lived in Lake Hills for 55 years and five generations of my family have lived there.

1878
02:47:11,900 --> 02:47:17,480
Later, as an adult, I was able to buy an acre and build a cottage and teach school in Coweta

1879
02:47:17,480 --> 02:47:20,000
County for 35 out of my 40 years.

1880
02:47:20,580 --> 02:47:22,800
What a wonderful place to raise a child.

1881
02:47:23,340 --> 02:47:26,140
And the mortgage is almost paid off after 37 years.

1882
02:47:26,620 --> 02:47:31,840
It's a lovely neighborhood, and I have never wanted to live anywhere else, but in Lake

1883
02:47:31,840 --> 02:47:35,240
Hills, Coweta County, it's safe and peaceful.

1884
02:47:35,980 --> 02:47:42,600
A change has been proposed to the houses just down the hill for me.

1885
02:47:43,860 --> 02:47:48,700
It may not seem like much, but I think it will forever change my world.

1886
02:47:49,820 --> 02:47:53,760
At least 30 houses may go up behind these seven acres.

1887
02:47:54,760 --> 02:47:59,660
Multi-density, two terrifying words in modern vernacular.

1888
02:47:59,660 --> 02:48:05,120
And I don't know what the answer is because these two neighborhoods are so different.

1889
02:48:05,420 --> 02:48:07,640
Acre lots, multi-density.

1890
02:48:09,440 --> 02:48:11,600
These two-story houses looming over.

1891
02:48:13,120 --> 02:48:16,160
I know the new neighborhood will have strong covenants.

1892
02:48:16,460 --> 02:48:20,940
They'll keep the appearance of their neighborhood pristine, grass shrubs pruned.

1893
02:48:20,940 --> 02:48:29,020
And the only problem is that most homeowner associations do not patrol the back of a property.

1894
02:48:29,910 --> 02:48:36,060
So these 30 houses that my neighbors and I will see, I'm just concerned about the grills,

1895
02:48:36,360 --> 02:48:40,960
the overflow stuff, campers, boats, you know, all just the outdoor paraphernalia people

1896
02:48:40,960 --> 02:48:42,040
put behind their houses.

1897
02:48:42,640 --> 02:48:49,440
And of course the trash cans won't be stored in the front or on the sides but probably

1898
02:48:49,440 --> 02:49:00,380
and back in plain view. Also, dogs outside, fencing issues, the list just goes on and

1899
02:49:00,380 --> 02:49:05,820
on and hopefully there are none of them are rentals because that's a whole other issue

1900
02:49:05,820 --> 02:49:12,480
there. But the intensity of this is quite overwhelming to those in Lake Hills who have an acre lot.

1901
02:49:13,240 --> 02:49:18,520
We're not special, we just live in Coweta County and we have septic tanks because

1902
02:49:18,520 --> 02:49:25,120
of the codes of our time. I took a lovely walk today and as I topped the hill, I thought wow,

1903
02:49:25,580 --> 02:49:37,300
I will see roof, roof, roof, more than 30 of them. So please, if you can, vote no to the amendment

1904
02:49:37,880 --> 02:49:43,620
for Lake Hills and Camelia Circle. I have cherished my neighborhood of 55 years and

1905
02:49:43,620 --> 02:49:48,600
almost paid for house with an acre lot and a septic tank. Thank you for my

1906
02:49:48,600 --> 02:49:53,680
wonderful half-century of living in beautiful Calvita County. Thank you.

1907
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:56,940
Next Ms. Chairman Ruth Stark.

1908
02:50:04,700 --> 02:50:07,720
Ruth Stark, 30 Club Court.

1909
02:50:12,270 --> 02:50:14,910
Before I address the

1910
02:50:14,910 --> 02:50:18,790
annexation that is currently being proposed I want to go back and revisit

1911
02:50:18,790 --> 02:50:25,790
the annexation that was previously approved on Green Top Road.

1912
02:50:27,150 --> 02:50:33,310
The county did a great job going to bat forest with that as best they could

1913
02:50:34,090 --> 02:50:39,970
because of the laws that are in place City 1 to annex that.

1914
02:50:41,090 --> 02:50:44,710
The concerns I have is the things that I'm looking at already

1915
02:50:44,710 --> 02:50:57,730
with this development that is already in place. The annexation, the residents of my neighborhood

1916
02:50:57,730 --> 02:51:01,850
were concerned that once the city got their foot in the door, they'd fling the door wide

1917
02:51:01,850 --> 02:51:07,850
open and it has happened. They are asking for more and more and more. They want to

1918
02:51:07,850 --> 02:51:14,110
variance to go with the 400 unit allowance, which would be about 25% more of an increase.

1919
02:51:15,270 --> 02:51:22,410
My observation of the current things that are going on green top road are, I thought

1920
02:51:22,410 --> 02:51:30,570
there was supposed to be a 50 foot planted buffer with a 25 foot planted perimeter buffer

1921
02:51:30,570 --> 02:51:38,990
is one tree considered 25 feet? Where are they measuring? Are they measuring the

1922
02:51:38,990 --> 02:51:43,890
trunk or are they measuring the canopy? Because that's all that is on Green Top

1923
02:51:43,890 --> 02:51:50,450
Road right now is one tree standing along the road. We are concerned about the

1924
02:51:50,450 --> 02:51:57,250
impacts, traffic, and I know that's not something that we learn that can be

1925
02:51:57,250 --> 02:52:03,850
really address, but it needs to be. The infrastructure is not there. Northside Elementary

1926
02:52:03,850 --> 02:52:10,630
School is already at capacity and they haven't even completed this other development.

1927
02:52:12,990 --> 02:52:13,750
The

1928
02:52:14,190 --> 02:52:23,770
developer of this proposed annexation has indicated there is an N.A. for an impact

1929
02:52:23,770 --> 02:52:31,230
study. Why? Why was that impact study not applicable? Apparently the earlier impact study should

1930
02:52:31,230 --> 02:52:31,770
be obsolete.

1931
02:52:38,270 --> 02:52:46,790
It's only a quarter of a mile of highway, of road. Due to the realignment

1932
02:52:46,790 --> 02:52:54,690
of Green Top, my neighborhood is now isolated. I live in Country Club Manor in the backside

1933
02:52:54,690 --> 02:53:01,070
side of Heritage Hills. And to be able to get out on the traffic has already increased

1934
02:53:01,070 --> 02:53:07,230
without any of the development, any of those developments already in place. I feel that

1935
02:53:07,790 --> 02:53:11,070
it's going to be even worse. Is the county going to be?

1936
02:53:14,960 --> 02:53:15,960
Don't sell our tools.

1937
02:53:15,960 --> 02:53:17,960
Thank you.

1938
02:53:21,100 --> 02:53:24,980
We have a few more to sign off the agenda later, Mr. Chairman.

1939
02:53:25,560 --> 02:53:27,060
Off the agenda?

1940
02:53:28,480 --> 02:53:30,840
We'll get to those here shortly.

1941
02:53:33,660 --> 02:53:45,540
Item number eight, recommendation regarding petition number AN02-25 filed by Charles

1942
02:53:45,540 --> 02:53:54,940
Charles Connolly, representative of NCTILLC, proposing to annex property located off of

1943
02:53:54,940 --> 02:54:02,220
Green Top Road into the city of Nenon, District 3, and Ms. Blackwell, you have the floor.

1944
02:54:02,760 --> 02:54:03,700
Thank you.

1945
02:54:04,460 --> 02:54:12,560
We have applicant Charles S. Connolly, representative of NCTILLC, requesting an annexation under

1946
02:54:12,560 --> 02:54:20,760
petition 0225. The property in question is located off Green Top Road and is

1947
02:54:20,760 --> 02:54:28,360
approximately 122.64 acres. The request is for annexation into the City of

1948
02:54:28,360 --> 02:54:34,460
Noonan. The applicant is proposing Noonan's PDR, Plan Development

1949
02:54:34,460 --> 02:54:36,520
Residential District Zoning.

1950
02:54:39,840 --> 02:54:42,720
The property requesting the annexation are

1951
02:54:42,720 --> 02:54:52,840
these three parcels here, this one, two, three. They are currently zoned RC Rural Conservation,

1952
02:54:53,300 --> 02:54:59,880
the city of Noonan outlined in blue, is located adjacent to the east and the south.

1953
02:55:03,420 --> 02:55:04,120
Included

1954
02:55:04,120 --> 02:55:09,160
in the annexation packet from the city of Noonan was this proposed site plan. The proposed

1955
02:55:09,160 --> 02:55:17,000
The subdivision consists of three pods totaling 235 homes with an average density of 2.05 units

1956
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:17,660
per acre.

1957
02:55:18,920 --> 02:55:26,070
The ranch pod in yellow has an average home size of 1,800 square feet.

1958
02:55:26,750 --> 02:55:33,530
The traditional pod in blue has an average home size of 2,500 square feet, while the

1959
02:55:33,530 --> 02:55:38,710
estate pod in red has an average home size of 3,000 square feet.

1960
02:55:38,710 --> 02:55:38,870
Next,

1961
02:55:41,390 --> 02:55:49,250
in accordance with OCGA 3636113 subsection D, a county's objection is only valid if

1962
02:55:49,250 --> 02:55:56,090
the annexation results in a substantial change in the intensity of the allowable use of the

1963
02:55:56,090 --> 02:56:04,550
property or a change to a significantly different allowable use or a use which significantly

1964
02:56:04,550 --> 02:56:10,110
increases the net cost of infrastructure or significantly diminishes the value of

1965
02:56:10,110 --> 02:56:17,810
useful life of a capital outlay project as such term is defined in code section 48-8-110,

1966
02:56:18,110 --> 02:56:22,430
which is furnished by the county to the area to be annexed.

1967
02:56:22,650 --> 02:56:28,410
And authorize or result in a land use that differs substantially from the existing uses

1968
02:56:28,410 --> 02:56:33,850
suggested for the property by the county's comprehensive land use plan or permitted

1969
02:56:33,850 --> 02:56:39,370
for the property pursuant to the county's zoning ordinance or its land use ordinances.

1970
02:56:41,240 --> 02:56:46,680
Based on a review by several staff divisions of the information available at this time

1971
02:56:46,680 --> 02:56:52,960
and considering limitations provided by state law, this proposal appears to be eligible for

1972
02:56:52,960 --> 02:56:59,940
consideration of an objection by the board due to a substantial change in intensity

1973
02:56:59,940 --> 02:57:05,600
and a significant increase in cost and a substantially different land use.

1974
02:57:08,980 --> 02:57:09,960
Questions for staff?

1975
02:57:11,460 --> 02:57:12,260
Any questions?

1976
02:57:12,920 --> 02:57:13,100
No.

1977
02:57:13,140 --> 02:57:13,340
Okay.

1978
02:57:18,400 --> 02:57:19,580
That's not public hearing.

1979
02:57:19,700 --> 02:57:20,340
That's not public hearing.

1980
02:57:21,100 --> 02:57:21,740
Make a motion.

1981
02:57:21,940 --> 02:57:22,860
Is there any action?

1982
02:57:23,080 --> 02:57:26,060
Motion or any discussion?

1983
02:57:26,480 --> 02:57:26,680
Anybody?

1984
02:57:27,140 --> 02:57:32,160
Mr. Chairman, I would like to just add the previous annexation that this board's

1985
02:57:32,160 --> 02:57:38,000
familiar with that the board objected to it went to arbitration it was resolved

1986
02:57:38,000 --> 02:57:43,020
through arbitration it was below the DRI threshold the original I believe was

1987
02:57:43,020 --> 02:57:49,880
322 lots it was reduced in the end under arbitration at 300 lots so combined

1988
02:57:49,880 --> 02:57:54,220
with this application it does exceed the DRI threshold so that DRI was

1989
02:57:54,220 --> 02:57:59,780
submitted through the city of Noonan I believe that's DRI petition 4427

1990
02:57:59,780 --> 02:58:06,000
Again, that's 4-4-2-7, and I believe, John, that methodology meeting for the DRI, is that

1991
02:58:06,000 --> 02:58:06,860
like in May?

1992
02:58:07,820 --> 02:58:08,100
Yeah.

1993
02:58:08,460 --> 02:58:13,280
So, again, the DRI has not even been submitted back to this body for review, so it makes

1994
02:58:13,280 --> 02:58:17,000
it very difficult in addition to staff's review of the transportation impacts to know

1995
02:58:17,660 --> 02:58:19,480
potentially the impacts to the county.

1996
02:58:20,260 --> 02:58:25,540
So, it's just in addition to the legal factors, I just add that it puts us in

1997
02:58:25,540 --> 02:58:30,380
awkward situation but the statute requires that you guys act within 45 days of

1998
02:58:30,380 --> 02:58:35,560
receiving the application so just wanted to add that in context to the

1999
02:58:35,560 --> 02:58:41,800
situation. So where are we at in the 45-day threshold? Your next meeting would

2000
02:58:41,800 --> 02:58:49,940
exceed the 45 days. So I would I would move and suggest that we object to the

2001
02:58:53,140 --> 02:58:56,320
Is that based upon the information in the staff report, Commissioner?

2002
02:58:57,460 --> 02:59:03,300
It is based on the metric that Nicole presented and what Michael just illustrated.

2003
02:59:04,620 --> 02:59:04,960
Okay.

2004
02:59:05,740 --> 02:59:06,560
I'll second it.

2005
02:59:06,940 --> 02:59:08,160
I have a motion to second.

2006
02:59:08,480 --> 02:59:09,380
Any further discussion?

2007
02:59:11,400 --> 02:59:20,240
I would add, if I could, I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, would the Board consider, if we do notify DCA, placing a stay in that arbitration process

2008
02:59:20,240 --> 02:59:24,320
us to try to get a an agreement before this goes to arbitration like we're

2009
02:59:24,320 --> 02:59:32,900
doing for Sydney Pope is that I mean I'm sorry to add that now no no if you

2010
02:59:32,900 --> 02:59:35,660
guys would consider making that part of your motion I think that would help to

2011
02:59:35,660 --> 02:59:42,760
clarify I would make that part of it the original motion all right correct

2012
02:59:42,760 --> 02:59:42,920
Great.

2013
02:59:43,660 --> 02:59:45,540
And second, you okay with that?

2014
02:59:45,800 --> 02:59:46,300
All right.

2015
02:59:46,720 --> 02:59:47,740
Any further discussion?

2016
02:59:48,940 --> 02:59:50,440
All in favor say aye.

2017
02:59:50,540 --> 02:59:50,880
Aye.

2018
02:59:51,300 --> 02:59:51,540
Aye.

2019
02:59:52,680 --> 02:59:55,000
And it is opposed.

2020
02:59:55,880 --> 02:59:59,200
So, carries, but it is.

2021
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:14,220
All right, number nine, request approval, execution of an amendment to chapter 14, the building and

2022
03:00:14,220 --> 03:00:21,460
building regulations associated with permit fees. Director Amason from our community development

2023
03:00:21,460 --> 03:00:29,820
department. Yes, sir. Chairman and board members, in response to the passage of House Bill 461

2024
03:00:29,820 --> 03:00:34,100
which pertains to how local governments can charge building permit fees.

2025
03:00:34,600 --> 03:00:38,900
Staff has drafted an amendment to the fee schedule in Chapter 14,

2026
03:00:39,160 --> 03:00:42,320
Buildings and Building Regulations of the Calwina County Code of Ordinance

2027
03:00:42,320 --> 03:00:46,540
that intends to meet the requirements of the recently adopted legislation.

2028
03:00:48,440 --> 03:00:56,300
That, a copy of those redlined, we took the existing ordinance,

2029
03:00:56,300 --> 03:01:02,520
existing fee schedule appendix and provided you a red line copy of what

2030
03:01:02,520 --> 03:01:11,340
those changes were on each one of those items and then also provided some of

2031
03:01:11,340 --> 03:01:18,380
those items where we didn't have a fee for a service provided we added those

2032
03:01:18,380 --> 03:01:25,980
new and those are contained in your packet. Staff recommends that the

2033
03:01:25,980 --> 03:01:29,020
board execute the amendment to chat 14 buildings and building

2034
03:01:29,020 --> 03:01:32,580
regulations of the cavity County code of ordinance associated

2035
03:01:32,580 --> 03:01:35,440
with the fees charged for building permits to meet the

2036
03:01:35,440 --> 03:01:39,600
requirements of this recently adopted House Bill 461.

2037
03:01:41,120 --> 03:01:46,900
It's fairly, it's fairly lengthy schedule. As we do many

2038
03:01:46,900 --> 03:01:51,700
different variety of permits. I'm here if you have any

2039
03:01:51,700 --> 03:01:59,940
questions about this. I think you sent that out to us early on and then in the packet as well, so

2040
03:01:59,940 --> 03:02:04,680
I'll make a motion to approve. Second. We have a motion and a second. The one question, I apologize,

2041
03:02:05,100 --> 03:02:11,680
I believe we want to make that effective. Yes, yes, I believe we discussed making it effective

2042
03:02:11,680 --> 03:02:19,680
May 19th. Okay, that way any existing in the queue, the new fee, the new permit fee schedule,

2043
03:02:19,680 --> 03:02:24,640
We never have made a 19 May 19. Our staffs working on the

2044
03:02:24,640 --> 03:02:27,940
software behind the scenes that will incorporate this

2045
03:02:29,000 --> 03:02:32,980
automatically. Okay. Free. That sounds good. We have a motion

2046
03:02:32,980 --> 03:02:36,960
and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor say

2047
03:02:36,960 --> 03:02:43,820
aye. All if I like saying not hearing any motion carries

2048
03:02:43,820 --> 03:02:44,440
is unanimously.

2049
03:02:46,840 --> 03:02:51,620
Are there any appointments to various boards or

2050
03:02:51,620 --> 03:02:54,220
authorities, commissioners, you have any appointments that you

2051
03:02:54,220 --> 03:02:56,700
wish to bring forth at this time? No.

2052
03:02:59,320 --> 03:03:01,280
Mr. Smith, nothing.

2053
03:03:03,380 --> 03:03:11,160
Okay. We have none. So I have been asked. And I think it is

2054
03:03:11,160 --> 03:03:16,780
appropriate we've been going for about another hour and a half and with us I'm

2055
03:03:16,780 --> 03:03:23,320
gonna ask for a five minute break and we'll be back in session in just five

2056
03:03:23,320 --> 03:03:28,660
minutes so if you have to leave we understand but if you can wait five

2057
03:03:28,660 --> 03:03:30,500
minutes I'm

2058
03:11:14,240 --> 03:11:18,520
gonna call us back into session under

2059
03:11:25,500 --> 03:11:27,360
bids and contracts item

2060
03:11:27,360 --> 03:11:34,480
Number 11. Request approval execution of an agreement with the city of Samoa and freedom

2061
03:11:34,480 --> 03:11:41,060
land holdings LLC associated with annexation procedures and transportation improvements

2062
03:11:41,060 --> 03:11:47,480
district one. Mr. Chairman, I'm going to recuse myself at this time per conflict of interest.

2063
03:11:47,760 --> 03:11:54,900
All right. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, commissioners effective August 11 2023 freedom land holdings

2064
03:11:54,900 --> 03:12:02,100
LLC is the fee simple owner of real property consistent approximately 100.14 acres on multiple

2065
03:12:02,100 --> 03:12:08,440
tax parcels in unincorporated Calvita. On August 7, 2023, the city of Sonoya approved an annexation

2066
03:12:08,440 --> 03:12:13,580
petition in rezoning for residential development now known as Silver Springs for the above

2067
03:12:13,580 --> 03:12:18,040
reference property without complying with the annexation procedures set forth in state law.

2068
03:12:18,720 --> 03:12:22,880
Subsequently, the county filed suit against the city seeking relief in the form of

2069
03:12:22,880 --> 03:12:27,700
compliance with the annexation procedures to resolve the dispute between the

2070
03:12:27,700 --> 03:12:32,260
county and the city, county attorney and county staff work with representatives

2071
03:12:32,260 --> 03:12:36,720
from freedom land holdings including their attorney regarding an agreement or

2072
03:12:36,720 --> 03:12:41,420
an IGA regarding the annexation procedures and certain transportation

2073
03:12:41,420 --> 03:12:45,300
improvements. In addition they also provided a traffic study which has

2074
03:12:45,300 --> 03:12:49,140
been reviewed by our Public Works Administrator. The draft agreement

2075
03:12:49,140 --> 03:12:55,920
before you night basically has a couple things. One is as proposed within 30

2076
03:12:55,920 --> 03:12:59,720
days of the effective date the city of Senoa will submit a notice of

2077
03:12:59,720 --> 03:13:03,980
annexation in accordance with state law and then the county will place that

2078
03:13:03,980 --> 03:13:06,660
annexation petition on the next appropriate Board of Commissioners

2079
03:13:06,660 --> 03:13:10,740
meeting. In consideration of the conditions of the agreement the county

2080
03:13:10,740 --> 03:13:15,140
shall not vote to object to the annexation. Freedom, land holdings,

2081
03:13:15,140 --> 03:13:18,760
L.O.C., where its successors are assigned and interest shall be

2082
03:13:18,760 --> 03:13:21,900
responsible for the cost of designing, permitting, constructing, and all other

2083
03:13:21,900 --> 03:13:26,660
costs related to the construction of a left turn lane on old 85, old highway 85,

2084
03:13:26,720 --> 03:13:32,660
excuse me, at the proposed subdivision entrance. Also, within 30 days after the

2085
03:13:32,660 --> 03:13:36,440
issuance of the 100th certificate of occupancy, the developer shall

2086
03:13:36,440 --> 03:13:41,060
contribute $250,000 to mitigate the impacts of the development

2087
03:13:41,060 --> 03:13:46,820
traffic on the county's existing road system. Once the annexation petition has been filed with

2088
03:13:46,820 --> 03:13:51,420
the Department of Community Affairs, the county shall dismiss the lawsuit against the city of Sonoa.

2089
03:13:52,440 --> 03:13:58,040
At their meeting on April 7th, just recently, the city council did vote unanimously to approve

2090
03:13:58,040 --> 03:14:03,820
the agreement, so it is ready for the board's consideration. All right. Is there any

2091
03:14:04,440 --> 03:14:10,300
any questions? I heard that we are not going to object to the annexation based on

2092
03:14:10,300 --> 03:14:16,880
The string of concessions that were made in the end, is that?

2093
03:14:17,240 --> 03:14:26,560
Yes, sir, as proposed in the agreement by agreeing to the conditions in the agreement, the board also agrees not to object to the annexation once that's submitted.

2094
03:14:27,620 --> 03:14:31,660
All right, so did Nathan sign off on this?

2095
03:14:32,360 --> 03:14:32,840
Yes, sir.

2096
03:14:34,620 --> 03:14:35,020
Okay.

2097
03:14:36,180 --> 03:14:41,040
This was the intent from the very beginning, if I recall, so I would make a motion to approve it.

2098
03:14:41,340 --> 03:14:41,520
All right.

2099
03:14:41,960 --> 03:14:43,080
There's a motion in a second.

2100
03:14:44,280 --> 03:14:45,460
Any further discussion?

2101
03:14:47,700 --> 03:14:48,940
All in favor say aye.

2102
03:14:49,020 --> 03:14:49,320
Aye.

2103
03:14:49,880 --> 03:14:50,040
Aye.

2104
03:14:50,520 --> 03:14:50,660
Aye.

2105
03:14:51,180 --> 03:14:51,500
Aye.

2106
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:02,840
You know what I meant. All

2107
03:15:05,910 --> 03:15:18,630
right. Mr. Fisher's back. Item number 12, bid award associated with the 2025 resurfacing of various county roads, all districts.

2108
03:15:21,410 --> 03:15:23,690
Motion to approve. Second to motion.

2109
03:15:24,230 --> 03:15:27,910
All right. There's a motion to approve and a second. Any discussion?

2110
03:15:27,910 --> 03:15:35,630
There's an attached list of all of the servicing projects, so I'm good with the Chairman.

2111
03:15:36,130 --> 03:15:38,690
All right. All in favor say aye.

2112
03:15:38,810 --> 03:15:39,050
Aye.

2113
03:15:39,170 --> 03:15:39,330
Aye.

2114
03:15:39,570 --> 03:15:43,270
All opposed by the same? It carries unanimous.

2115
03:15:45,510 --> 03:15:51,630
Number 13, request approval execution of fiscal year 2025, Georgia Department of Human

2116
03:15:51,630 --> 03:15:58,270
Human Services Subrecipient Agreement with Three Rivers Regional Commission associated

2117
03:15:58,270 --> 03:15:59,730
with CalEDA Transit.

2118
03:16:00,430 --> 03:16:02,390
And I think, Ms. Kelly, are you?

2119
03:16:02,990 --> 03:16:08,890
Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, staff is in receipt of the 2025 Agreement with Three Rivers Regional

2120
03:16:08,890 --> 03:16:13,250
Commission, which outlines the Department of Human Services funding process and

2121
03:16:13,250 --> 03:16:15,930
requirements for the County's 5311 Transit Program.

2122
03:16:17,010 --> 03:16:22,890
This is essentially funding that we receive through the Department of Human Services,

2123
03:16:23,390 --> 03:16:27,890
and we're a sub-recipient of the Three Rivers Regional Commission, so the money funnels through

2124
03:16:27,890 --> 03:16:28,210
them.

2125
03:16:28,590 --> 03:16:36,250
And it's for eligible individuals, and instead of them paying the $3 per one-way trip, like

2126
03:16:36,250 --> 03:16:42,610
a public trip, these trips are booked ahead of time through the DHS database, and we

2127
03:16:42,610 --> 03:16:43,550
are reimbursed.

2128
03:16:43,550 --> 03:16:52,590
I believe it's around $19 per trip so this is again it's a significant percentage of

2129
03:16:52,590 --> 03:16:58,350
the trips provided by our transit service are these DHS trips and again it's for

2130
03:16:58,350 --> 03:17:02,630
eligible individuals now going to eligible centers such as the Relidge Center

2131
03:17:02,630 --> 03:17:05,610
and the Coway to Senior Center. Will we ever have a direct with them and sit

2132
03:17:05,610 --> 03:17:10,510
out here with the three river sensor do our own transportation? That's a great

2133
03:17:10,510 --> 03:17:17,170
question we have been discussing trying to become a direct recipient for some

2134
03:17:17,170 --> 03:17:23,910
other FTA funding I'm sorry though I'm not sure this is not FTA I'm sorry we

2135
03:17:23,910 --> 03:17:30,630
could look into that it's just curious it's always worked this way when we've

2136
03:17:30,630 --> 03:17:36,670
asked questions I'm not sure we've gotten great answers but it I we can

2137
03:17:36,670 --> 03:17:44,730
certainly continue to know it's a great question. I have a motion. Second. All

2138
03:17:44,730 --> 03:17:53,370
right. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. And it carries

2139
03:17:53,370 --> 03:17:53,930
unanimously.

2140
03:17:57,350 --> 03:18:03,850
Number 14, a request approval of courtroom audio video

2141
03:18:03,850 --> 03:18:09,610
technology upgrades and we do approve thank you there's a motion is there a

2142
03:18:09,610 --> 03:18:16,790
second second motion in a second any further discussion not hearing any all

2143
03:18:16,790 --> 03:18:24,430
in favor say aye all opposed by the same it carries unanimously number 15 bid

2144
03:18:24,430 --> 03:18:29,730
award associated with enforcement of ordinance regulating rank plant growth

2145
03:18:29,730 --> 03:18:36,830
and trash accumulation for property located at 25 Ridgedale court noon and

2146
03:18:36,830 --> 03:18:42,830
district 4 make a motion to approve all right there's a motion and we have a

2147
03:18:42,830 --> 03:18:51,530
second any discussion all in favor say aye and it carries unanimously our

2148
03:18:51,530 --> 03:18:57,570
additional action items number 16 request approval to submit a juvenile

2149
03:18:57,570 --> 03:19:05,950
justice incentive grant application. I'll make that motion. I'm sorry. I'll make that motion. Okay,

2150
03:19:06,110 --> 03:19:14,010
he was motion. Motion second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. And it carries

2151
03:19:14,010 --> 03:19:19,790
unanimously. Number 17 request approval execution of a local maintenance improvement grant

2152
03:19:19,790 --> 03:19:27,830
supplemental application for 2025. It says district 2 but I think it's everybody.

2153
03:19:28,330 --> 03:19:32,850
Motion to approve. You got a motion to approve? Can I just kind of give us a

2154
03:19:32,850 --> 03:19:38,170
quick summary on the Elmizer? So I guess the amended budget from the

2155
03:19:38,170 --> 03:19:43,170
state, they allowed for some additional funding to go out to local

2156
03:19:43,170 --> 03:19:48,350
governments for local road projects. In this particular case, the county's

2157
03:19:48,350 --> 03:19:53,170
eligible for 2.2 million dollars in additional funding used towards road

2158
03:19:53,170 --> 03:19:56,810
transportation projects so the reason it says district 2 is what we're

2159
03:19:56,810 --> 03:20:01,250
proposing to do is use this to fund a portion of the Southwest Connector

2160
03:20:01,250 --> 03:20:06,190
Project so the SPOS fund and then we had budgeted for that. The Southwest

2161
03:20:06,190 --> 03:20:10,510
Connector Project is basically building the new road into the fair. That's

2162
03:20:10,510 --> 03:20:16,250
correct. So that's why it says district 2. Thank you. Motion. I have a motion.

2163
03:20:16,250 --> 03:20:29,330
Second. I'll second it. All right. Any further? All in favor say aye. All opposed. And not

2164
03:20:29,330 --> 03:20:36,050
hearing any. Passes unanimous. Number 18. Request approval execution of a revised

2165
03:20:36,050 --> 03:20:42,350
acknowledgement letter associated with adoption of the Georgia Department of

2166
03:20:42,350 --> 03:20:47,170
transportation's procurement policy for engineering and design services.

2167
03:20:48,930 --> 03:20:51,530
That's a mouthful, Mr. Hanley?

2168
03:20:52,110 --> 03:20:56,250
Yes sir, if you remember a couple of meetings ago, I don't remember what meeting it was.

2169
03:20:56,970 --> 03:21:02,810
You all approved a reapplication or an application for recertification of the county

2170
03:21:03,550 --> 03:21:06,950
to administer local projects that our federal really funded.

2171
03:21:07,750 --> 03:21:11,470
We submitted that application to GDOT, they reviewed it and one of the things

2172
03:21:11,470 --> 03:21:15,770
they came back with, they said, well, we'd like for you to revise this item number six

2173
03:21:15,770 --> 03:21:18,950
from the letter that we issued to them in 2021.

2174
03:21:19,930 --> 03:21:26,070
So the basic, I guess, the synopsis of that comment that they wanted changed was it says

2175
03:21:26,070 --> 03:21:32,330
that that comment said we've submitted any alterations to the procurement policy in

2176
03:21:32,330 --> 03:21:33,810
writing to GDOT for review.

2177
03:21:34,250 --> 03:21:39,650
And we didn't submit any proposed alterations, so they wanted us to take that number six

2178
03:21:39,650 --> 03:21:43,390
out and replace it with appropriate for every word out so that's what we've done

2179
03:21:43,390 --> 03:21:50,810
motion to approve second motion prove seconded any further all in favor say

2180
03:21:50,810 --> 03:21:52,790
aye and

2181
03:21:54,900 --> 03:22:07,280
I cares unanimously number 19 request approval education of a

2182
03:22:07,280 --> 03:22:12,520
certification of compliance associated with annual immigration reporting

2183
03:22:12,520 --> 03:22:17,380
requirements for submission to the Georgia Department of Transportation.

2184
03:22:17,780 --> 03:22:22,120
Motion to approve. Second. I have a motion to approve. Second. Any further

2185
03:22:22,120 --> 03:22:30,500
discussion? All in favor say aye. All opposed. Carries unanimously. Number

2186
03:22:30,500 --> 03:22:36,200
twenty. Request approval execution of a rights of entry associated with

2187
03:22:36,200 --> 03:22:42,760
storm drain maintenance at paces landing trace noon and district three motion

2188
03:22:42,760 --> 03:22:50,420
to approve you have a motion to have a second any any questions any all in

2189
03:22:50,420 --> 03:22:59,720
favor say I carry unanimously number 21 request approval to temporarily close a

2190
03:22:59,720 --> 03:23:04,560
portion of happy valley circle for the purpose of replacing a pipe motion

2191
03:23:04,560 --> 03:23:09,040
to approve. There's a motion to approve. Is there a second? Second. I have a second.

2192
03:23:09,880 --> 03:23:15,440
Any discussion? Todd, where is that on Happy Valley? It's up on the north end, uh, Commissioner

2193
03:23:15,440 --> 03:23:21,260
Byron. Okay, thank you, sir. Yes, sir. Did we know how long it's going to be? Two days.

2194
03:23:21,740 --> 03:23:28,980
Just two days? Yeah. Okay. It was a motion second. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

2195
03:23:31,950 --> 03:23:32,350
And it

2196
03:23:32,350 --> 03:23:38,150
carries unanimously. All right, we're now to our supplemental and non-agenda items. We

2197
03:23:38,150 --> 03:23:49,130
had one added. Number 22 is requests to cancel and reschedule to April 22, 2025 work session.

2198
03:23:49,770 --> 03:23:50,330
Michael?

2199
03:23:50,850 --> 03:23:54,350
Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, due to a conflict, staff is just asking that the board cancel

2200
03:23:54,350 --> 03:24:00,130
the proposed work session on April 22 and reschedule it for May 6 at 3 p.m. and just

2201
03:24:00,130 --> 03:24:05,910
so there's no confusing confusion. We also have a Board of Commissioners meeting on May 6th at 6 p.m.

2202
03:24:05,990 --> 03:24:08,990
So we'll just have the work session just prior to that both here in the chambers.

2203
03:24:09,970 --> 03:24:17,870
Okay, next. I have a motion to approve. Is there a second? Second for motion. I have a second.

2204
03:24:18,330 --> 03:24:25,490
Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. It carries unanimously.

2205
03:24:25,490 --> 03:24:36,170
Now, we are to our public comment, ask for public comments on any item not on the agenda and

2206
03:24:36,170 --> 03:24:41,030
according to the rules governing the meeting, up to 10 speakers will be afforded three minutes

2207
03:24:41,030 --> 03:24:47,570
to speak and will be respectfully heard by the board without public display or approval

2208
03:24:47,570 --> 03:24:48,990
or disapproval from the audience.

2209
03:24:49,870 --> 03:24:54,350
The board does not engage with the speaker during his or her comments.

2210
03:24:54,350 --> 03:25:00,530
The board will listen to any questions or comments and take them into consideration, but we'll

2211
03:25:00,530 --> 03:25:06,190
ask the county attorney or staff to correct any inconsistencies or false statements after

2212
03:25:06,190 --> 03:25:08,190
the speaker has been heard.

2213
03:25:09,430 --> 03:25:12,330
Mr. Vice, do we have any signed up?

2214
03:25:12,630 --> 03:25:13,270
We do, Mr. Chairman.

2215
03:25:13,410 --> 03:25:13,650
Okay.

2216
03:25:13,790 --> 03:25:13,950
We have a couple.

2217
03:25:14,390 --> 03:25:16,370
First is Nick Sabadosh.

2218
03:25:21,910 --> 03:25:24,030
Give us your name and address, please.

2219
03:25:25,030 --> 03:25:26,430
Good evening, commissioners.

2220
03:25:26,430 --> 03:25:28,050
There's Nick Sabotage, District 2.

2221
03:25:29,010 --> 03:25:31,330
I represent Citizens for Rural, Covita.

2222
03:25:32,410 --> 03:25:34,770
I want to address a concerning inconsistency

2223
03:25:34,770 --> 03:25:37,270
in our county's approach to land use planning.

2224
03:25:38,450 --> 03:25:44,490
We've received mixed messages and I urge you

2225
03:25:44,490 --> 03:25:46,830
to clarify your commitment to our community's voice.

2226
03:25:48,130 --> 03:25:49,930
On one hand, the county planning website

2227
03:25:49,930 --> 03:25:52,070
emphasizes the importance of the 2026

2228
03:25:52,070 --> 03:25:55,070
comprehensive plan stating strategic vision

2229
03:25:55,070 --> 03:26:00,210
that guides rezoning and infrastructure decisions, you've called for public input, promising

2230
03:26:00,210 --> 03:26:02,350
that our voices will shape Kuwaita's future.

2231
03:26:03,010 --> 03:26:08,470
This suggests a transparent community different process, and I applaud that intention.

2232
03:26:09,230 --> 03:26:13,790
Yet, on the other hand, Project SAIL, a project that would require converting our

2233
03:26:13,790 --> 03:26:18,770
most rural land designation into heavy industrial use, which is a clear violation

2234
03:26:18,770 --> 03:26:22,210
of the current COMP plan, an example of spot zoning.

2235
03:26:23,350 --> 03:26:27,710
That project would forever damage the rural communities in the area, yet there has been

2236
03:26:27,710 --> 03:26:32,830
no opportunity for meaningful public input and no clear ways for residents to engage.

2237
03:26:33,630 --> 03:26:38,190
How can we trust that our voices matter when such a significant deviation from the plan

2238
03:26:38,190 --> 03:26:40,070
seems to bypass community input?

2239
03:26:40,810 --> 03:26:45,030
The COMP plan reflects years of community input to preserve Covita's balance of growth

2240
03:26:45,030 --> 03:26:50,310
and rural heritage, allowing a heavy industrial project in a rural zone undermines that

2241
03:26:50,310 --> 03:26:52,830
vision before the new plan is even drafted.

2242
03:26:53,850 --> 03:26:59,590
If you truly value our input, we need accessible, transparent opportunities to weigh in on projects

2243
03:26:59,590 --> 03:27:00,170
like this.

2244
03:27:00,930 --> 03:27:03,710
I ask you to reconcile these mixed messages.

2245
03:27:04,430 --> 03:27:09,050
If the comprehensive plan is our guide, honor it by ensuring any rezoning aligns with

2246
03:27:09,050 --> 03:27:09,710
its principles.

2247
03:27:10,450 --> 03:27:15,030
If our voices are vital, create clear, inclusive ways for us to engage on proposals

2248
03:27:15,030 --> 03:27:16,310
like the data center.

2249
03:27:16,910 --> 03:27:29,030
Let's build our future for COEDA that reflects our shared values, including the value of our rural lands and communities, not one driven by exceptions that undermine the voice of your constituents.

2250
03:27:29,650 --> 03:27:30,870
I appreciate your time. Thank you.

2251
03:27:30,870 --> 03:27:31,370
Thank you, sir.

2252
03:27:33,410 --> 03:27:35,890
Next, Mr. Chairman, Ron Bachrath.

2253
03:27:45,040 --> 03:27:48,840
Ron Bachrath, District 2, actually 335 Boone Road.

2254
03:27:49,480 --> 03:27:53,160
The proposed project sale borders my back property.

2255
03:27:55,840 --> 03:28:01,900
I've been sort of following on the internet what has happened in the last, since January

2256
03:28:01,900 --> 03:28:03,160
when this first came out.

2257
03:28:04,040 --> 03:28:07,900
And if you read things and listen to look at things on the internet, there are a lot

2258
03:28:07,900 --> 03:28:08,860
a lot of negatives.

2259
03:28:10,340 --> 03:28:17,060
Places people, municipalities that had approved data centers in the past are having second

2260
03:28:17,060 --> 03:28:17,540
thoughts.

2261
03:28:18,500 --> 03:28:22,320
I hope we are smart enough maybe to avoid those second thoughts and think of them

2262
03:28:22,320 --> 03:28:23,060
in the first place,

2263
03:28:25,380 --> 03:28:29,440
a study has been posted on a YouTube about the effect of data centers

2264
03:28:29,440 --> 03:28:37,180
in Georgia. They say as you have your loss of productive homeowners, like wells have

2265
03:28:37,180 --> 03:28:46,540
been destroyed, excessive dust during construction and noise, and this isn't just for a year

2266
03:28:46,540 --> 03:28:51,320
or two years, this is going on for like ten years. That's a long time to put up

2267
03:28:51,320 --> 03:28:52,140
with a bunch of nonsense.

2268
03:28:54,200 --> 03:28:55,380
Excessive bright lights.

2269
03:28:56,240 --> 03:28:57,400
If you look at some of the videos,

2270
03:28:59,540 --> 03:29:02,800
it's really discouraging to see that kind of bright light

2271
03:29:02,800 --> 03:29:04,020
out in a rural area.

2272
03:29:06,740 --> 03:29:11,220
Wildlife habitats destroyed, the lifestyle

2273
03:29:11,220 --> 03:29:14,500
that we've kind of grown accustomed to and we kind of like.

2274
03:29:15,200 --> 03:29:17,520
I've been out there for like 25 years roughly now.

2275
03:29:18,180 --> 03:29:19,740
Physically built the house we're in.

2276
03:29:23,530 --> 03:29:31,730
Also, it cites the recent veto by Governor Kemp of the suspension of the sales tax that

2277
03:29:31,730 --> 03:29:36,610
these places would have to pay if they had to pay taxes like we had to pay on our property

2278
03:29:36,610 --> 03:29:37,510
and our improvements.

2279
03:29:38,590 --> 03:29:44,190
That doesn't seem really very nice, especially when the legislators approve it and he vetoes

2280
03:29:44,190 --> 03:29:44,370
it.

2281
03:29:44,770 --> 03:29:49,170
It doesn't seem like he has the best interest of what the citizens of Georgia want through

2282
03:29:49,170 --> 03:29:50,910
the newly elected representatives.

2283
03:29:54,010 --> 03:29:59,900
Also, Georgia power has not charged

2284
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:07,240
Charged industrial companies, the same rates as residential. Residential rates in Georgia

2285
03:30:07,240 --> 03:30:12,420
are slightly above the national average, while industrial rates are significantly below the

2286
03:30:12,420 --> 03:30:13,220
national average.

2287
03:30:15,940 --> 03:30:21,820
A proposal was made that maybe they should make data centers pay for

2288
03:30:21,820 --> 03:30:28,320
the added infrastructure that's needed to build these things. That was left to die on

2289
03:30:28,320 --> 03:30:37,540
committee. That's again another example where I think the duly elected officials were thinking

2290
03:30:37,540 --> 03:30:41,660
one thing, and somebody else would know, I won't just shove that aside in favor industry.

2291
03:30:42,460 --> 03:30:49,180
Industry is being emphasized over individuals. I think Georgia should do a little better

2292
03:30:49,180 --> 03:30:49,660
than that.

2293
03:30:52,090 --> 03:30:57,430
During two weeks, Commissioner Smith is a couple of weeks back, you, I'm sorry,

2294
03:30:57,430 --> 03:30:57,950
Are we out of time?

2295
03:30:58,250 --> 03:30:59,070
You're out of time.

2296
03:30:59,210 --> 03:31:00,070
I didn't mean to do that to you.

2297
03:31:00,090 --> 03:31:00,750
No, you're fine.

2298
03:31:00,830 --> 03:31:01,530
Thank you very much.

2299
03:31:01,630 --> 03:31:02,690
Thank you very much for coming.

2300
03:31:02,830 --> 03:31:04,050
Well, I didn't realize it.

2301
03:31:04,650 --> 03:31:05,230
Thank you.

2302
03:31:05,390 --> 03:31:05,830
Thank you.

2303
03:31:06,490 --> 03:31:08,450
Next, Mr. Chairman, Jill Daniel.

2304
03:31:10,190 --> 03:31:10,590
Daniel.

2305
03:31:16,200 --> 03:31:17,020
That's the left.

2306
03:31:17,380 --> 03:31:17,540
Okay.

2307
03:31:17,740 --> 03:31:19,080
Next, Connie Lytton.

2308
03:31:20,480 --> 03:31:20,880
Connie.

2309
03:31:26,660 --> 03:31:27,840
Good evening, commissioners.

2310
03:31:28,520 --> 03:31:31,780
I am speaking on behalf of Citizens for Rural Cowheed.

2311
03:31:31,840 --> 03:31:33,040
My name is Connie Lytton.

2312
03:31:33,100 --> 03:31:34,420
I might live on District 2.

2313
03:31:34,820 --> 03:31:35,260
Thank you.

2314
03:31:35,760 --> 03:31:40,240
I want to thank all of you all for your time tonight. I know it's a very late night. We're all ready to get to bed

2315
03:31:40,240 --> 03:31:45,440
I want to talk about some of the concerns that I have heard while having conversations with a few of you

2316
03:31:45,440 --> 03:31:47,140
Mr. Rettelbach has

2317
03:31:48,440 --> 03:31:55,180
Has shared with me that he is very concerned about imminent domain and how Kawida County citizens were affected

2318
03:31:55,180 --> 03:31:57,780
I agree imminent domain should be avoided

2319
03:31:57,780 --> 03:32:04,480
However, I also believe that people's homes and lives should not be negatively impacted by any data center being built in

2320
03:32:04,480 --> 03:32:10,040
in Cavite County. Homes in industrial zones are not a good fit for each other. I've heard

2321
03:32:10,040 --> 03:32:14,240
from more than one commissioner that Project Peach is an appropriate location due to the

2322
03:32:14,240 --> 03:32:20,000
industrial area that already flanked the property. I was also told that the location of Project

2323
03:32:20,000 --> 03:32:25,340
Cell is very different than Project Peach. I agree that Project Cell is very different.

2324
03:32:26,000 --> 03:32:30,420
It's definitely a very rural area with no industrial businesses already built there.

2325
03:32:30,420 --> 03:32:37,040
If you vote yes to Project Cell, then not only will the residents be greatly impacted during the building phase,

2326
03:32:37,600 --> 03:32:41,440
that will last many years according to Atlas, but forever after the build.

2327
03:32:41,960 --> 03:32:45,800
During the building phase there will be constant construction, noise dust, dirt, traffic,

2328
03:32:45,980 --> 03:32:48,420
and other negative impacts to the residents in the area.

2329
03:32:48,940 --> 03:32:53,720
A video shared by a resident that lives near QTS but not right next door to it

2330
03:32:54,420 --> 03:32:59,400
showed the intensity of the blast which causes her entire home to rattle

2331
03:32:59,400 --> 03:33:01,640
and now they're concerned about their foundations.

2332
03:33:02,640 --> 03:33:05,280
Wager's Mill is an area with a great deal of rock.

2333
03:33:05,820 --> 03:33:07,140
Have you all considered this?

2334
03:33:07,540 --> 03:33:09,340
And have you asked ATLAS for information

2335
03:33:09,340 --> 03:33:12,500
about the land makeup in the proposed data center?

2336
03:33:13,040 --> 03:33:16,020
Land surveys need to be required to show the amount of rock

2337
03:33:16,020 --> 03:33:18,080
that needs to be blasted and how that would be handled

2338
03:33:18,080 --> 03:33:19,340
if the project is allowed.

2339
03:33:19,780 --> 03:33:21,920
What about possible damages to nearby homes,

2340
03:33:22,060 --> 03:33:24,400
our foundation sheet, rock, windows, seals, et cetera?

2341
03:33:24,940 --> 03:33:25,840
Who pays for this?

2342
03:33:25,840 --> 03:33:30,380
So the citizens have to get a lawyer and sue if this happens to their homes.

2343
03:33:31,240 --> 03:33:35,100
Now for the permanent impact of our lives, the landscape of our area will forever be

2344
03:33:35,100 --> 03:33:40,140
changed for the worse and we will have an 836 acre industrial space sitting in the center

2345
03:33:40,140 --> 03:33:40,860
of our community.

2346
03:33:41,660 --> 03:33:45,920
If the same logic is used for determining the decision about Project Peach that is

2347
03:33:45,920 --> 03:33:50,260
already in a place that's industrial, then as people start to sell their homes

2348
03:33:50,260 --> 03:33:54,880
to escape the negative impacts of the data center, land will be getting rezoned

2349
03:33:54,880 --> 03:33:59,400
as industrial and gradually the entire area would change from the beautiful rural area

2350
03:33:59,400 --> 03:34:01,240
of Calwita to the next industrial park.

2351
03:34:01,920 --> 03:34:06,020
Mr. Rettelbach shared that he would not buy a home in the Project Peach area because of

2352
03:34:06,020 --> 03:34:09,800
the industrial zone and I agree I would not buy in any of those areas either.

2353
03:34:10,260 --> 03:34:14,900
But why will anyone else want to come to our area and buy our homes if the industrial

2354
03:34:14,900 --> 03:34:15,620
is allowed?

2355
03:34:17,100 --> 03:34:21,300
When there are other places that do not have a data center and whatever other

2356
03:34:21,300 --> 03:34:27,160
businesses decide to come to our place as people start to leave. Nobody wants to

2357
03:34:27,160 --> 03:34:30,620
live around these eyesores negative noise and light impacts and all the other

2358
03:34:30,620 --> 03:34:34,760
things that an industrial area has. So as you contemplate your decision for the

2359
03:34:34,760 --> 03:34:40,240
future vote of project sale, please consider that although we will not have

2360
03:34:40,240 --> 03:34:44,080
intimate domain, we will have imminent deal. Thank you.

2361
03:34:44,080 --> 03:34:47,480
Thank you. Next, Mr. Chairman, Robert Lytton.

2362
03:35:00,200 --> 03:35:03,620
Good evening, Robert Lytton. I'm a member

2363
03:35:03,620 --> 03:35:09,280
of Citizens for Rural Caueta and I'm just gonna piggyback and finish the

2364
03:35:09,280 --> 03:35:11,140
comments my wife had earlier.

2365
03:35:14,540 --> 03:35:17,020
Eminent domain will have eminent doom. I think

2366
03:35:17,020 --> 03:35:20,120
that's where she left off and we will be forced to move if we want to

2367
03:35:20,120 --> 03:35:25,080
remain living in a rural area homes rather than data centers and

2368
03:35:25,080 --> 03:35:30,800
businesses as our neighbors with the high likelihood that we will not get what our places would be

2369
03:35:30,800 --> 03:35:36,780
worth the day before the news broke out this data center and the rest of us will be forced to live

2370
03:35:36,780 --> 03:35:45,180
in an area that we no longer love because either no one will buy our homes or we cannot afford the

2371
03:35:45,180 --> 03:35:51,680
financial hit it will take to sell our homes so again we will not be facing eminent domain

2372
03:35:51,680 --> 03:35:58,300
like the citizens near QTS but will be facing imminent doom. I'd also like to

2373
03:35:58,300 --> 03:36:01,880
take this opportunity to thank you all for listening to us throughout this

2374
03:36:01,880 --> 03:36:08,620
process. Thank you. That's all Mr. Chairman. All right.

2375
03:36:12,000 --> 03:36:14,460
Is there any reason for

2376
03:36:14,460 --> 03:36:17,820
executive session? There's not Mr. Chairman.

2377
03:36:21,520 --> 03:36:24,760
We have a motion to adjourn and a

2378
03:36:24,760 --> 03:36:31,820
second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. And it is unanimous. Thank you, folks, for coming

2379
03:36:31,820 --> 03:36:32,300
and staying.