1 00:00:05,870 --> 00:00:32,290 The meeting of the September 16th order, and roll call, to my final left is Chris Wellen. Scott Myers. Nick Bervé will be an alternate tonight. I'm Ben Nelson, Jeff Kessler, and then we'll see if we look out to questions. 2 00:00:32,290 --> 00:00:35,710 Who did institute a flag on the United States of America? 3 00:00:36,230 --> 00:00:38,590 And did you have a lot of work for which his appearance? 4 00:00:38,910 --> 00:00:40,830 Or an occasion on the good of God? 5 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:44,530 And did you have an individual who would love the interest of us for a while? 6 00:00:53,370 --> 00:00:57,690 So, he's there, but just not a picture, you know? 7 00:00:58,390 --> 00:01:00,810 He's there, I'm not sure what I'll forgive you to get him on. 8 00:01:01,530 --> 00:01:02,330 They're at least that sound. 9 00:01:08,150 --> 00:01:10,670 Johnny has mean to you that the store he's came for, I think. 10 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:26,300 So when I went this afternoon, I said to Joe, why don't we hear for construction trailer and he pointed out the language I'm trying to find it now. 11 00:01:26,620 --> 00:01:30,540 But we won't see one, one, one, one, one thing. 12 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,960 To which I said, that's just if somebody's going to live in it and he, 13 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,840 Wait now, if you don't say that. 14 00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:46,320 It's always been like a Sandy. 15 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:48,660 It was just if somebody was going to live that living it. 16 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,740 But so, that's probably so. 17 00:01:49,740 --> 00:01:51,340 So this is considered a manufacturing home. 18 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Yeah. 19 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:53,080 What? 20 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,440 Wait a minute. 21 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:55,700 Why is it on? 22 00:01:56,100 --> 00:01:56,500 I mean, awesome. 23 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,980 It's a very interesting community. 24 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Yeah. 25 00:02:00,180 --> 00:02:01,760 You have to be all I know. 26 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,800 You're going to play with all of these people in the middle. 27 00:02:08,780 --> 00:02:09,900 You're going to play with them. 28 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,800 You're going to play with them. 29 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,880 So no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 30 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,020 So we can work without a video. 31 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:21,460 Just stay in by for a second. 32 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,140 The words you're not taking minutes up, then we're going to come to your game. 33 00:02:25,860 --> 00:02:26,360 We're going to go. 34 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Okay, everybody. 35 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,600 We're going to be in a minute afterwards, you need to go out now. 36 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:30,600 Yeah. 37 00:02:30,860 --> 00:02:32,720 Why don't we do that for the minutes? 38 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Somebody will write me. 39 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,360 Some Michael, it just a question. 40 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:41,560 Is there something you've had to do in other jurisdictions for a construction 41 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,760 trailer. 42 00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:47,980 Okay. 43 00:02:50,020 --> 00:02:57,460 That was, I don't know if you heard, I was just explaining that what you'll point out that 44 00:02:57,460 --> 00:03:03,280 seeing many touch at home was my understanding it was just that somebody was living in it. 45 00:03:04,380 --> 00:03:06,240 But he says it doesn't actually save that. 46 00:03:08,020 --> 00:03:12,940 So, my sense of what somebody's got to do, which can just move to this relatively quickly 47 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:24,980 I don't think there's a point that I can't think of any language that can feel something along the lines of what I've learned from the traitors or yes. 48 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:33,500 I don't think there's a certain point that there's a size or a construction trailer or a trailer. 49 00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:35,980 I don't have any of those folks in there. 50 00:03:36,460 --> 00:03:37,100 I have that. 51 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:37,640 But I'm not really sure. 52 00:03:38,860 --> 00:03:39,300 I have that. 53 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:41,160 That's not a bad for me. 54 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,720 That's pretty good for the lives. 55 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,260 I'm not. 56 00:03:44,260 --> 00:03:45,700 I don't know if the couple of guests in there. 57 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:50,240 If they have a big office or they can take a good picture of it. 58 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,020 They can take a good picture of it. 59 00:03:51,020 --> 00:03:52,980 And if you don't have that, that's not a good picture. 60 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:53,740 So. 61 00:03:53,740 --> 00:03:53,960 I. 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,660 And that's something. 63 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,320 I think we should probably clean up the language in our work. 64 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:58,740 And so. 65 00:03:58,740 --> 00:04:09,460 That's the best of work to make sense for you this or for here we are working so let's do it and there's no questions 66 00:04:09,460 --> 00:04:25,270 Alright so I would signal public I would move on from public and I think we've heard from the applicant they want to do motion close it off to the board 67 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:26,050 to the public. 68 00:04:26,050 --> 00:04:26,650 To the public. 69 00:04:26,650 --> 00:04:27,270 How would it be? 70 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:29,030 It's going to be the special exception criteria. 71 00:04:30,210 --> 00:04:30,630 Briefly. 72 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:31,350 Yeah. 73 00:04:31,490 --> 00:04:32,890 See, it will run into that portion. 74 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:33,590 Yeah. 75 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:35,070 We can do that to the motions. 76 00:04:35,570 --> 00:04:35,670 Yeah. 77 00:04:35,690 --> 00:04:35,810 Okay. 78 00:04:36,090 --> 00:04:36,590 Get that. 79 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:37,770 Very good. 80 00:04:38,030 --> 00:04:38,630 Let me go motion. 81 00:04:38,810 --> 00:04:39,870 We close it up in the public. 82 00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:40,250 Second. 83 00:04:40,690 --> 00:04:41,150 I want favor. 84 00:04:41,690 --> 00:04:41,970 Hi. 85 00:04:42,490 --> 00:04:42,890 Okay. 86 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:47,990 We want to do. 87 00:04:48,510 --> 00:04:48,710 Hey. 88 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Make a motion of post-use a lot. 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,260 Be detrimental to the overall character of the neighborhood by reason. 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,500 I want to do variation. 91 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:05,540 And the nature of other uses in the vicinity, including design, scale, noise, and odor, 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,920 both uses a temporary trailer of a construction site, it's not a living one, right? 93 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:19,180 And it will be removed when the construction project is over, 94 00:05:22,170 --> 00:05:23,570 just a few days in that. 95 00:05:24,010 --> 00:05:26,410 And yes, that's day-to-day has been back. 96 00:05:35,780 --> 00:05:39,140 And that construction trailer will be there for less than 12 years. 97 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Thank you. 98 00:05:55,090 --> 00:05:58,850 I'm favor of a guy. 99 00:06:00,670 --> 00:06:01,050 All right. 100 00:06:02,570 --> 00:06:08,090 Make motion to propose useful not be interest, not just our bunch of many way, 101 00:06:08,410 --> 00:06:09,650 but you're not so sure they're neighborhood. 102 00:06:11,490 --> 00:06:19,910 And this is gonna be a nice part of the construction site and again, 103 00:06:19,910 --> 00:06:21,830 that will only be their trailer early. 104 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:27,230 Until a production is done, so I believe that standard B has been not. 105 00:06:27,470 --> 00:06:27,710 Second, 106 00:06:30,190 --> 00:06:32,550 I put this alone at the H-I-V office. 107 00:06:34,090 --> 00:06:35,470 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 108 00:06:35,470 --> 00:06:36,350 Mr. Chair, please. 109 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:38,510 Mr. Chair, please, Mr. Chair, please. 110 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:41,430 Sir, please, sir. 111 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:42,230 Sir, please, sir. 112 00:06:43,770 --> 00:06:43,770 Sir, 113 00:06:46,190 --> 00:06:46,190 please, sir. 114 00:06:46,190 --> 00:06:46,390 Sir, 115 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:51,200 please, sir. 116 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,940 Sir, please, sir. 117 00:06:52,940 --> 00:06:53,740 All in favor? 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Aye. 119 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:54,580 All right. 120 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Okay. 121 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,000 See? 122 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,700 The proposed views will not be contrary to public health. 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,600 I make a motion. 124 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:05,440 The proposed views will not be contrary to public health. 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Safety and general work are by reason of undue traffic congestion or hazards that pose 126 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:18,140 a risk of life or property or be unsanitary or create an awful waste disposal or an awful 127 00:07:18,140 --> 00:07:23,980 conditions, it does not have any facilities in it. It's an office trailer. So I believe 128 00:07:23,980 --> 00:07:26,360 standard, see you as the met. 129 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:51,650 All 130 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,160 right, thank 131 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,820 you. 132 00:08:03,820 --> 00:08:08,150 I appreciate it. 133 00:08:09,950 --> 00:08:10,910 Thank you. 134 00:08:11,070 --> 00:08:11,150 Thank you. 135 00:08:11,150 --> 00:08:11,770 No, I've got to. 136 00:08:12,370 --> 00:08:13,650 I mean, I'd like to go through. 137 00:08:13,650 --> 00:08:15,210 Yeah, I'll just play that one. 138 00:08:15,370 --> 00:08:17,050 Go through stuff like this. 139 00:08:17,410 --> 00:08:20,270 It's kind of going through planning and reading, right? 140 00:08:20,370 --> 00:08:22,110 Yes, we're going to work to the planning board. 141 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:25,310 We are just, why are we? 142 00:08:25,530 --> 00:08:26,650 We are in the process of, uh, 143 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:28,490 Manly Down, which serves as, uh, 144 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:32,090 I would, sure, we'll get to the initials, right? 145 00:08:32,090 --> 00:08:36,230 upper valley like son of a really like son of a regional spending commission they 146 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:39,250 have recommended the master plan that we do a rebound 147 00:08:39,970 --> 00:08:42,090 and three to twenty more minutes 148 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:44,210 really 149 00:08:44,210 --> 00:08:45,670 yeah i'll be interested 150 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:52,640 they say we need to be modernized 151 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:53,620 can't tell data 152 00:08:54,420 --> 00:08:58,160 and it's great to slow the opposite of that so that's my word 153 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:06,020 Well, anyway, that's in the process, but the degree to which it would be amended, it's going to be a two-year process. 154 00:09:06,260 --> 00:09:09,260 That's my estimation, for 18 months, two years. 155 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,020 So it was short of the whole year breath for that one. 156 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,860 Yeah, yeah, we just have to manage, you know, promotions like this, and the mobile homes that look like single-family branch residences. 157 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,100 There are those were things that probably are more annoying than they are, anything else. 158 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:32,540 But you know, if you look at it as sort of the site, it's very issue and so you can see what 159 00:09:32,540 --> 00:09:36,040 it looks like before it goes out, make sure that buck the aprons are on it, well that's stuff. 160 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:38,440 It's probably a good idea to keep some of that stuff at the moment. 161 00:09:38,780 --> 00:09:39,520 But let's end up choice. 162 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:46,820 That's interesting because my neighbor has a camper park there and it's, I can't prove it 163 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:50,500 because I'm not standing or watching over it but I believe somebody's living it. 164 00:09:50,500 --> 00:10:01,680 And with that housing situation in the economy of the ladies, I think there's a fair amount of that, but yeah, I mean this I would just add 165 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:05,560 Parkify or something or somebody who's going to live in campus 166 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,720 He owns it to the clean up thing, but this doesn't have a provision for living 167 00:10:11,260 --> 00:10:13,500 No, that's I mean this should be added 168 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:20,480 Yeah, see what you mean yeah, what this is with somebody somebody brings in a mobile home or a camper while they're building their house 169 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:30,460 We can be kind, yeah, but that's what this is aimed at, so we're getting the zoning borders, I mean, the zoning, no lies against that. 170 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,100 By special exception, you don't like to even live in the camper while you build your house. 171 00:10:35,820 --> 00:10:37,400 Okay, and back further here. 172 00:10:39,220 --> 00:10:39,400 Yeah. 173 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,760 And then you always come back to my thoughts. 174 00:10:41,660 --> 00:10:46,020 When you're coming in for the climate to be more, the first used to be, yeah. 175 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,660 They set up that big infrastructure homeowner. 176 00:10:49,340 --> 00:10:52,380 I don't know if it's supposed to be model on for this one. 177 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:53,920 That's why there's some shit that's- 178 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,300 You know, it's not unbelievable if there's anything that you don't know. 179 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,160 No, it's not going to be a doctor like this, probably. 180 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,400 It's right on point, there's anything. 181 00:11:00,420 --> 00:11:03,060 Yeah, I think it's a demo house. 182 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Is that the Mr. John Stark? 183 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:06,160 Yeah, yeah. 184 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,740 So you guys can be hearing that case next month. 185 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Oh, really? 186 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,860 So we had really shouldn't discuss it tonight. 187 00:11:12,860 --> 00:11:16,800 I don't know, but over time, you said, I was putting it here, you know, it's about 188 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:16,920 it. 189 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,300 I mean, my idea would for construction trailer not to happen to come here. 190 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,220 It would be my fact. 191 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:24,100 Yeah, this is so, this is an old way. 192 00:11:24,660 --> 00:11:28,660 Right, it will seem to me like, so 50. 193 00:11:30,420 --> 00:11:30,820 50. 194 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:32,260 50. 195 00:11:40,420 --> 00:11:40,820 50. 196 00:11:40,820 --> 00:11:47,220 opposed to the Australian zoning ordinance just to add camping travel trailer and to find 197 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:48,780 it in our definitions. 198 00:11:51,220 --> 00:11:55,240 There's some definition for a habitable. Yeah, yeah, I guess I have 199 00:11:55,240 --> 00:12:08,420 either that or if somebody was to be lived in or something. But so I think it's a bit 200 00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:09,640 for a construction site? 201 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:12,600 Well, if that's the message that you're sending to me 202 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,020 as the initial interpreter of this, I'm fine with that. 203 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,180 But I read this the first time, and I talked to Mr. Foster, 204 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,080 and I said, I tell you this, but I think it's a special exception. 205 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:26,340 I felt bad about it because, you know, 206 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,620 I call it a silly rule, you know, the PF, though. 207 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:33,000 Well, that's why I asked him, which he does this for living in bed. 208 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,100 My son's first brother, so I think the interpretation 209 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:40,600 and it doesn't need to come. It's fairly widespread. So I don't think we'll go on that. 210 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,040 I don't know what the town is saying, no references. 211 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:49,220 Well, if it can be interpreted to make it easy to come in. 212 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:53,160 I'm going to try to caution you. He's coming. We need to clean up. 213 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,340 Right, a little bit. 214 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,800 I'm going to. Until this gets cleaned up. 215 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,620 Yeah. All right, then forget what I said. 216 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:00,260 Yeah. Wait, that's our follow-up statement. 217 00:13:00,620 --> 00:13:01,800 We don't really know what this is where you say that. 218 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:08,020 As you can't pick and choose, you don't want to follow it, it's right, we need to follow it. 219 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,440 I mean, we can't pick and choose. 220 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,060 All right, we need to move all of those to the applicants alone. 221 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,840 I realize it's not silly, but that's to do it. 222 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,200 Correct. 223 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:17,760 All right. 224 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,640 I mean, the place to interpret whether they should have come in or not is when they come before. 225 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,760 So we make that determination. 226 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,820 No, we're trying to approach them. 227 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,140 Until the language gets clearer. 228 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,780 You guys are the sole local authorities for interpretation. 229 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:42,060 So 230 00:13:45,610 --> 00:13:46,950 everything else is good. 231 00:13:47,390 --> 00:13:49,490 You can accept that and eat the beef, just. 232 00:13:49,970 --> 00:13:50,350 Changed. 233 00:13:51,330 --> 00:13:53,650 Oh, they've got, you can be listed as an alternate. 234 00:13:54,410 --> 00:13:56,330 So am I an alternate or am I a full time? 235 00:14:00,180 --> 00:14:01,800 Are you an alternate motion, relationship? 236 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:04,240 Sure you know. 237 00:14:06,010 --> 00:14:06,670 Did my alternate? 238 00:14:07,530 --> 00:14:13,150 I will change that and I did not put on my renaps name. 239 00:14:13,450 --> 00:14:14,510 I will add food. 240 00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:16,590 So motion as a bit. 241 00:14:17,890 --> 00:14:18,370 Okay, 242 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:28,490 wasn't here. 243 00:14:32,290 --> 00:14:35,010 Meeting the last one, saving up. 244 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:37,430 The whole land use boards. 245 00:14:38,030 --> 00:14:38,790 We have a lot. 246 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:42,730 All land use boards are meeting in the last 10 to 30. 247 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:43,710 That's one thing. 248 00:14:43,810 --> 00:14:44,730 I have a deal of value to me. 249 00:14:44,930 --> 00:14:46,310 So I'm going to make that direction. 250 00:14:47,290 --> 00:14:48,070 You don't been down there? 251 00:14:48,210 --> 00:14:48,910 I have. 252 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:51,890 Yeah, it's kind of like sure it was directed. 253 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:52,650 I like that one. 254 00:14:52,930 --> 00:14:53,150 Right. 255 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:55,570 All right. 256 00:14:55,690 --> 00:14:56,490 Most new agenda? 257 00:14:56,930 --> 00:14:57,870 A second that. 258 00:14:58,930 --> 00:14:59,970 I don't fear it. 259 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. 260 00:15:02,180 --> 00:15:03,560 So we have had the other reason. 261 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,040 September 30th? 262 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:05,280 Yeah.