1 00:00:03,332 --> 00:00:04,957 It is 6:32 on August 6th, 2026. 2 00:00:04,957 --> 00:00:08,993 We will call to order the Board of Commissioners regularly scheduled meeting. 3 00:00:08,993 --> 00:00:11,666 With all 5 commissioners here, we do have a quorum. 4 00:00:11,666 --> 00:00:13,920 The first item on the agenda is our prayer, 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,218 and I would like to invite Pastor Squires from Nolensville First United Methodist. 6 00:00:18,218 --> 00:00:20,173 Would you bow your heads as I pray? 7 00:00:20,173 --> 00:00:24,529 Dear wise, loving, and gracious God, known by many names and beyond all names, 8 00:00:24,529 --> 00:00:28,773 First, let me say thank you on behalf of all who have gathered here tonight. 9 00:00:28,773 --> 00:00:31,118 Thank you for the many abundant blessings. 10 00:00:31,118 --> 00:00:32,570 Thank you for life itself, 11 00:00:32,570 --> 00:00:36,703 for the measure of health we need to fulfill our callings, for sustenance, 12 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:41,394 and for friendship. We ask your blessings on the people who have been called to lead 13 00:00:41,394 --> 00:00:44,130 the community in which we live and work and play. 14 00:00:44,130 --> 00:00:47,593 Give them personal peace in their lives and joy in their task. 15 00:00:47,593 --> 00:00:51,669 Bless our agenda for this evening to be fruitful and for the common good. 16 00:00:51,669 --> 00:00:55,802 Grant that our mayor and board of commissioners have ears to listen to the 17 00:00:55,802 --> 00:00:56,137 commissioners have ears to listen to the people 18 00:00:56,137 --> 00:00:58,650 they serve and the wisdom to act for justice. 19 00:00:58,650 --> 00:01:01,889 Help them as leaders to not ask first, how do we fix this, 20 00:01:01,889 --> 00:01:05,128 but what do we need to learn? How might we need to change? 21 00:01:05,128 --> 00:01:06,971 And to whom do we need to listen? 22 00:01:06,971 --> 00:01:09,931 Remind them, because we all forget from time to time, 23 00:01:09,931 --> 00:01:14,566 especially in the noisiness of what passes for political debate and dialogue today, 24 00:01:14,566 --> 00:01:16,576 especially during a campaign season, 25 00:01:16,576 --> 00:01:19,257 that they're not only leaders but also servants. 26 00:01:19,257 --> 00:01:23,333 And it is their responsibility and ours to serve the common good for all. 27 00:01:23,333 --> 00:01:27,075 Remind them that no matter where we live, everyone is our neighbor. 28 00:01:27,075 --> 00:01:30,705 Remind us all of that fact as well, and that throughout the ages, 29 00:01:30,705 --> 00:01:35,284 prophets have called the leaders of the people to respect and protect the least of 30 00:01:35,284 --> 00:01:39,417 those among us: our children, the elderly, the poor, those who are hungry, 31 00:01:39,417 --> 00:01:43,214 those who have no homes, those who are ill in body, mind, or spirit, 32 00:01:43,214 --> 00:01:47,849 the strangers in our midst, those who live on the margins, and those who are alone. 33 00:01:47,849 --> 00:01:49,413 And those who are forgotten. 34 00:01:49,413 --> 00:01:53,155 Graciously grant us tonight your guidance as we begin this meeting, 35 00:01:53,155 --> 00:01:57,455 and grant them and us the wisdom and courage to know and do what is right and 36 00:01:57,455 --> 00:01:57,678 courage to know and do what is right and good 37 00:01:57,678 --> 00:02:00,526 and true, and the best path when there are several. 38 00:02:00,526 --> 00:02:02,984 Help us now engage in meaningful discussion. 39 00:02:02,984 --> 00:02:07,284 Allow us to grow closer as a group and nurture the bonds of community and the 40 00:02:07,284 --> 00:02:11,528 ability to work together in harmony, even when there is honest disagreement. 41 00:02:11,528 --> 00:02:14,543 May they and we speak out when it's time to speak out. 42 00:02:14,543 --> 00:02:18,006 And listen patiently and receptively when it's time to listen. 43 00:02:18,006 --> 00:02:21,580 May they and we always be guided by the spirit of the community, 44 00:02:21,580 --> 00:02:25,210 by the spirit of justice, and most of all, by the spirit of love. 45 00:02:25,210 --> 00:02:29,566 This we pray in the name of all that we hold sacred and holy, all that we hold 46 00:02:29,566 --> 00:02:29,845 hold sacred and holy, all that we hold good, 47 00:02:29,845 --> 00:02:34,089 right, and true. It is in your blessed name, for which me is found in Jesus. 48 00:02:34,089 --> 00:02:37,440 May it be so for all of us. And everyone who'd like to said— 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,091 Amen. 50 00:02:38,091 --> 00:02:38,384 Amen. 51 00:02:40,794 --> 00:02:42,851 Thank you. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 52 00:02:42,851 --> 00:02:49,690 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 53 00:02:49,690 --> 00:02:50,429 United States of America and to the republic 54 00:02:50,429 --> 00:02:55,512 for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, 55 00:02:55,512 --> 00:03:03,925 with liberty and justice for all. 56 00:03:06,925 --> 00:03:09,942 The next item on the agenda is approval of the agenda. Is there a motion? 57 00:03:09,942 --> 00:03:10,873 Motion to approve. 58 00:03:10,873 --> 00:03:11,242 Second. 59 00:03:11,242 --> 00:03:16,345 Any discussion for the agenda? All in favor of the agenda signify by saying aye. 60 00:03:16,345 --> 00:03:16,827 Aye. 61 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:18,850 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 62 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:22,896 The next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes for the regular meeting 63 00:03:22,896 --> 00:03:24,867 for July 6th, 2026. Is there a motion? 64 00:03:24,867 --> 00:03:26,552 Motion to approve. 65 00:03:26,552 --> 00:03:27,434 Second. 66 00:03:27,434 --> 00:03:31,527 We have a motion to approve by Commissioner Gill and a second by 67 00:03:31,527 --> 00:03:32,295 Commissioner Gill and a second by Commissioner 68 00:03:32,295 --> 00:03:35,748 Carpenter. Any discussion on the minutes for July 6th? 69 00:03:35,748 --> 00:03:40,353 There is a scrivener's error for Resolution 26-044 with the motion being 70 00:03:40,353 --> 00:03:40,801 Resolution 26-044 with the motion being made by 71 00:03:40,801 --> 00:03:42,080 Vice Mayor Salamita, 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,069 but we've been advised that that's not something that has to be changed in the 73 00:03:47,069 --> 00:03:51,994 minutes by a motion to amend. It's just— since it's just a scrivener's error. 74 00:03:51,994 --> 00:03:55,191 Any other discussion for the minutes for July 6th? 75 00:03:55,191 --> 00:03:57,430 All in favor signify by saying aye. 76 00:03:57,430 --> 00:03:57,963 Aye. 77 00:03:57,963 --> 00:04:00,054 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 78 00:04:00,054 --> 00:04:04,182 The next item on the agenda is approval of the minutes for the public hearing 79 00:04:04,182 --> 00:04:06,165 of July 6th, 2026. Is there a motion? 80 00:04:06,165 --> 00:04:08,396 Motion to approve. 81 00:04:08,396 --> 00:04:12,470 We have a motion to approve by Commissioner Struford and a little bit of 82 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:12,527 Commissioner Struford and a little bit of a 83 00:04:12,527 --> 00:04:15,186 live stream going on down by Commissioner Gill, 84 00:04:15,186 --> 00:04:16,997 but I have yet to hear a second. 85 00:04:16,997 --> 00:04:17,370 Second. 86 00:04:17,370 --> 00:04:19,618 Second by Vice Mayor Salamita. 87 00:04:19,618 --> 00:04:23,439 Any discussion for the public hearing for July 6th? 88 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:26,061 All in favor signify by saying aye. 89 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:26,618 Aye. 90 00:04:27,012 --> 00:04:29,068 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 91 00:04:29,068 --> 00:04:33,233 The next item on the agenda is our pinning ceremony for Engineer Nick Thompson. 92 00:04:33,233 --> 00:04:34,973 I'd like to invite Chief Lupo up. 93 00:04:34,973 --> 00:04:42,325 Ready? 94 00:04:42,406 --> 00:04:42,535 Okay. 95 00:04:43,581 --> 00:04:48,461 All right, get my notes here. One more time for our pinning ceremony here. 96 00:04:49,403 --> 00:04:50,617 Um, we'll add the— 97 00:04:51,265 --> 00:04:55,770 change it up a little bit from, from my usual speech, but, uh, In the service, 98 00:04:55,770 --> 00:04:59,408 the badge represents more than just a position or a rank to us. 99 00:04:59,408 --> 00:05:01,372 It symbolizes the trust, the duty, 100 00:05:01,372 --> 00:05:05,992 and the sacrifice and commitment we have to serve our community and other people 101 00:05:05,992 --> 00:05:10,208 here. This ceremony also recognizes the support of family and friends and 102 00:05:10,208 --> 00:05:10,786 support of family and friends and colleagues 103 00:05:10,786 --> 00:05:13,443 as well, and the mentors who have worked with, 104 00:05:13,443 --> 00:05:17,890 with him through over his years of service here to help make this achievement 105 00:05:17,890 --> 00:05:20,604 possible. So we're going to have, um, New Nick. 106 00:05:20,604 --> 00:05:21,889 New Nick. 107 00:05:22,772 --> 00:05:26,290 We've got multiple Nicks now, so we got New Nick. 108 00:05:26,290 --> 00:05:28,515 He comes to us from Manchester, 109 00:05:28,515 --> 00:05:34,043 who quickly returned the favor and challenged us to the ice bucket challenge, 110 00:05:34,043 --> 00:05:39,212 so we had to perform that for them. 9 years of total service in the fire 111 00:05:39,212 --> 00:05:39,786 years of total service in the fire service. 112 00:05:39,786 --> 00:05:44,955 He has pretty much achieved his requirements shortly before we hired him 113 00:05:44,955 --> 00:05:45,529 requirements shortly before we hired him to be an 114 00:05:45,529 --> 00:05:49,334 engineer, so he came straight into us as an engineer. 115 00:05:49,334 --> 00:05:53,785 Uh, on A shift and, uh, hopefully be serving here for a while. 116 00:05:53,785 --> 00:05:56,298 So we'll go ahead and bring you up. 117 00:05:56,298 --> 00:06:00,964 Uh, he'll be getting pinned by his mother, Kim, today. Make sure— 118 00:06:00,964 --> 00:06:02,969 I get sticky? 119 00:06:02,969 --> 00:06:08,390 Do you want to step back a little bit further towards the 120 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:11,813 bench so you can get a good picture? 121 00:06:11,813 --> 00:06:14,476 There's your mother's pills. 122 00:06:14,476 --> 00:06:20,773 I'm doing my best not to poke the kid. 123 00:06:20,773 --> 00:06:26,221 Once it's through the first hole, you just let it hang. 124 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,053 It'll be good. 125 00:06:28,053 --> 00:06:36,592 It's not fitting 126 00:06:36,592 --> 00:06:38,193 in. 127 00:06:38,193 --> 00:06:43,530 Thank you, 128 00:06:43,530 --> 00:06:46,733 Chief, 129 00:06:46,733 --> 00:06:48,334 and 130 00:06:48,334 --> 00:06:56,339 congratulations 131 00:06:56,339 --> 00:07:04,878 to Engineer Nick 132 00:07:04,878 --> 00:07:09,682 Thompson. 133 00:07:09,682 --> 00:07:18,221 Our next item on 134 00:07:18,221 --> 00:07:25,159 the agenda is 135 00:07:25,159 --> 00:07:28,895 citizen 136 00:07:28,895 --> 00:07:33,698 comments, 137 00:07:33,698 --> 00:07:39,569 and we have 138 00:07:39,569 --> 00:07:46,507 Cheryl Hughes 139 00:07:46,507 --> 00:07:53,445 signed up for 140 00:07:53,445 --> 00:07:57,181 citizen 141 00:07:57,181 --> 00:08:01,985 comments. 142 00:08:01,985 --> 00:08:05,721 And Ms. 143 00:08:05,721 --> 00:08:09,456 Hughes, 144 00:08:09,456 --> 00:08:15,861 if you don't 145 00:08:15,861 --> 00:08:24,400 mind pulling the 146 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:31,872 microphone up. 147 00:08:31,872 --> 00:08:32,323 Yeah. 148 00:08:34,933 --> 00:08:39,345 Hello, I'm Cheryl Hughes, 1752 and 1790 Burke Hollow Road. 149 00:08:39,345 --> 00:08:43,910 I have some comments about the Van Slyke annexation request. 150 00:08:43,910 --> 00:08:49,843 The back of the property runs to Burke Hollow Road. I grew up in Burke Hollow. 151 00:08:49,843 --> 00:08:53,875 I went 4 hours away to college and I have lived away, 152 00:08:53,875 --> 00:08:59,733 but I've always spent time at home as my parents lived out their lives there. 153 00:08:59,733 --> 00:09:03,080 Our mother was the last to pass 2 years ago, 154 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:08,177 so it's me and my siblings and 225 acres and 3 parcels in question. 155 00:09:08,177 --> 00:09:10,003 One parcel is elsewhere. 156 00:09:10,003 --> 00:09:14,796 And we aren't selling any of it because Burke Hollow is lovely, 157 00:09:14,796 --> 00:09:19,132 but it's easy to remain in a place I have a history with. 158 00:09:19,132 --> 00:09:24,533 The Burke Hollow area has been zoned RD-5 since at least the late '80s. 159 00:09:24,533 --> 00:09:30,467 It didn't just revert to RD-5 with that 2020 County Commission vote like other 160 00:09:30,467 --> 00:09:34,651 unincorporated areas such as Bethesda or College Grove, 161 00:09:34,651 --> 00:09:38,074 which were zoned 1 or 2 acres per unit prior. 162 00:09:38,074 --> 00:09:44,388 The 2012 county zoning document described Burke Hollow as the area east of I-65 and 163 00:09:44,388 --> 00:09:50,474 Leiper's Fork west of 65 as the 2 areas reserved to preserve and encourage rural 164 00:09:50,474 --> 00:09:50,702 reserved to preserve and encourage rural and 165 00:09:50,702 --> 00:09:53,669 agricultural pursuits. I chose to stay. 166 00:09:53,669 --> 00:09:59,527 In contrast, the people who have moved into Burke Hollow in the last 30 years 167 00:09:59,527 --> 00:09:59,907 into Burke Hollow in the last 30 years chose 168 00:09:59,907 --> 00:10:04,776 a rural area over a subdivision or being inside the city limits. 169 00:10:04,776 --> 00:10:04,985 Thank you. 170 00:10:06,285 --> 00:10:10,982 They chose no sidewalks, municipal fire department, fire hydrants, 171 00:10:10,982 --> 00:10:14,754 streetlights outside the perimeter of pizza delivery, 172 00:10:14,754 --> 00:10:18,952 and 15 to 20 minutes to the nearest grocery or restaurants. 173 00:10:18,952 --> 00:10:24,432 The flip side is that we get to enjoy daily the unspoiled hills and pastures, 174 00:10:24,432 --> 00:10:29,414 hawks screaming overhead, owls hooting at night, elbow room and space. 175 00:10:29,414 --> 00:10:33,613 Little noise and less traffic. Kids skateboard on the road. 176 00:10:33,613 --> 00:10:36,103 People jog, walk dogs, ride horses. 177 00:10:36,103 --> 00:10:40,943 We have streams of cyclists because they get a workout on the hills, 178 00:10:40,943 --> 00:10:43,932 and motorcyclists love the winding curves. 179 00:10:43,932 --> 00:10:48,913 People hunt and trap, practice target shooting as we're in the county, 180 00:10:48,913 --> 00:10:52,329 so gunfire is common. Farming is still going on. 181 00:10:52,329 --> 00:10:55,318 So these people chose a rural way of life. 182 00:10:55,318 --> 00:10:58,876 If they had wanted to live in a high-density area, 183 00:10:58,876 --> 00:11:03,716 they could have chosen Ballinger Farms with homes on a quarter acre, 184 00:11:03,716 --> 00:11:09,124 McFarland Woods half-acre lots, or Barrington's one-acre lots on Highway 96. 185 00:11:09,124 --> 00:11:14,319 And all of those things I listed that Hollow— that the Hollow is without. 186 00:11:14,319 --> 00:11:19,514 Each of us in the Hollow have chosen rural living as our quality of life, 187 00:11:19,514 --> 00:11:23,286 and we have a right to maintain that quality of life. 188 00:11:23,286 --> 00:11:23,527 Thank you. 189 00:11:24,138 --> 00:11:28,232 that we as property owners have invested so much money, time, 190 00:11:28,232 --> 00:11:33,265 and effort in creating. We don't want development encroaching on our way of 191 00:11:33,265 --> 00:11:33,601 development encroaching on our way of life. 192 00:11:33,601 --> 00:11:35,480 So for all of these reasons, 193 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,641 I'm opposed to a subdivision that runs onto Burke Hollow Road. 194 00:11:39,641 --> 00:11:43,466 Thank you for your time and for your service to the town. 195 00:11:43,466 --> 00:11:48,569 Thank you. Anyone else for citizen comments that did not have the opportunity 196 00:11:48,569 --> 00:11:48,702 comments that did not have the opportunity to 197 00:11:48,702 --> 00:11:54,004 sign up? The next item on the agenda is an announcement and report from our town 198 00:11:54,004 --> 00:11:54,534 manager. 199 00:11:54,534 --> 00:11:59,618 The first thing that we need to look at with regard to this is the, 200 00:11:59,618 --> 00:12:01,287 the Resolution 260-90. 201 00:12:01,287 --> 00:12:03,032 It was a resolution to, 202 00:12:03,032 --> 00:12:08,571 to basically renew the interlocal agreement between Williamson County and 203 00:12:08,571 --> 00:12:09,102 agreement between Williamson County and Town of 204 00:12:09,102 --> 00:12:13,503 Nolensville for the firefighting services that we provide. 205 00:12:13,503 --> 00:12:19,345 It's basically a reimbursement for the firefighting services that we provide. 206 00:12:19,345 --> 00:12:24,884 They sent that to us last week and said, oh, we need to get this renewed. 207 00:12:24,884 --> 00:12:28,906 So that's why it was not on your work session agenda. 208 00:12:28,906 --> 00:12:34,369 It actually did expire at the end of— or right at the beginning of July. 209 00:12:34,369 --> 00:12:37,935 So, um, this is something that We need to move— 210 00:12:37,935 --> 00:12:43,322 if you all are still okay with the agreement that we developed with the 211 00:12:43,322 --> 00:12:43,853 agreement that we developed with the county. 212 00:12:43,853 --> 00:12:49,013 So this is something that we would need to renew, put back in place. 213 00:12:49,013 --> 00:12:55,159 And basically what it does is gives us a reimbursement every time our trucks roll 214 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:56,904 and go into the county. 215 00:12:56,904 --> 00:12:59,665 Where would you like to move it to the agenda? 216 00:12:59,665 --> 00:13:04,433 You can move it in even as the last item of the agenda if you want to. 217 00:13:04,433 --> 00:13:06,409 That's not a problem with me. 218 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:07,095 We just— 219 00:13:07,146 --> 00:13:08,642 it's just something that we need to address. 220 00:13:08,642 --> 00:13:14,086 So you want it under new but 11? 221 00:13:14,086 --> 00:13:16,805 Yeah, you could put it as 11. 222 00:13:16,805 --> 00:13:19,527 Okay, motion to move, uh, 223 00:13:19,527 --> 00:13:23,773 Resolution 26-090 to now be part of new 224 00:13:23,773 --> 00:13:25,624 business item 11. 225 00:13:25,624 --> 00:13:26,381 Second. 226 00:13:26,381 --> 00:13:30,498 Any discussion on the motion to move Resolution 227 00:13:30,498 --> 00:13:35,054 26-090? All in favor of the motion signify by saying 228 00:13:35,054 --> 00:13:35,404 aye. 229 00:13:35,838 --> 00:13:35,886 Aye. 230 00:13:36,576 --> 00:13:38,327 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 231 00:13:38,327 --> 00:13:43,756 Second thing that I wanted to address tonight is, um, we just saw our, 232 00:13:43,756 --> 00:13:50,272 our chief do a pinning ceremony, and, and tonight is our chief's last hours with us. 233 00:13:50,272 --> 00:13:53,064 Uh, today was his last official day, 234 00:13:53,064 --> 00:13:59,424 and he has taken a job as chief up in I've forgotten the county name, uh, the, uh, 235 00:13:59,424 --> 00:14:05,474 um, Reno Township. Exactly, in Michigan, uh, back going— being able to go back 236 00:14:05,474 --> 00:14:05,862 uh, back going— being able to go back home. 237 00:14:05,862 --> 00:14:11,990 And, uh, and I think just as we heard the last speaker made a choice to go back 238 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:17,497 home, that's always a great thing when, when someone's able to do that. 239 00:14:17,497 --> 00:14:23,779 And, uh, so congratulations on being able to To get back to your, your home area. 240 00:14:23,779 --> 00:14:28,821 Uh, when Matthew joined us in, I think, 2021, spring of 2021, um, 241 00:14:28,821 --> 00:14:31,070 we didn't know him that well. 242 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:35,646 David knew him, I guess, a little bit, but, but he had, uh, 243 00:14:35,646 --> 00:14:38,051 he came with great credentials. 244 00:14:38,051 --> 00:14:39,990 And while he was with us, 245 00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:45,730 Matthew completed his master's degree and then also executive fire school. 246 00:14:45,730 --> 00:14:49,065 Is that a fire officer school? Uh, with us. 247 00:14:49,065 --> 00:14:49,197 Yeah. 248 00:14:49,624 --> 00:14:51,708 And has just excelled. 249 00:14:51,708 --> 00:14:54,928 And he was our first fire marshal, 250 00:14:54,928 --> 00:14:59,665 did an outstanding job in setting up that program, 251 00:14:59,665 --> 00:15:04,685 and has done very well as our chief after David left. 252 00:15:04,685 --> 00:15:08,663 And so he's definitely going to be missed. 253 00:15:08,663 --> 00:15:15,578 But Matthew, just want to say thank you so much for all the contributions 254 00:15:15,578 --> 00:15:19,462 you have made to the town of Nolensville. 255 00:15:19,462 --> 00:15:26,092 And you can probably just come on up here because we're going to get a 256 00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:30,544 picture with you on your last, your last night. 257 00:15:30,544 --> 00:15:32,394 Oh, she loves this. 258 00:15:32,394 --> 00:15:36,527 Well, you put that resolution at the very end so I'm here the whole time. 259 00:15:36,527 --> 00:15:53,515 There was a reason. 260 00:16:01,540 --> 00:16:06,322 All right, I'll go first and then Katie can 261 00:16:06,322 --> 00:16:11,215 do hers, even though ladies should go first. 262 00:16:12,407 --> 00:16:13,557 Ready? 1, 2, 3. 263 00:16:15,097 --> 00:16:16,361 Perfect. 264 00:16:16,361 --> 00:16:18,678 1, 2, 3. 265 00:16:20,250 --> 00:16:36,753 Okay, thank you. 266 00:16:44,334 --> 00:16:49,798 I would add to that announcement that we have asked Captain Weingart to kind of 267 00:16:49,798 --> 00:16:50,075 have asked Captain Weingart to kind of step 268 00:16:50,075 --> 00:16:55,401 up and be our interim chief as we go through the process of selecting the new 269 00:16:55,401 --> 00:16:55,816 through the process of selecting the new chief. 270 00:16:55,816 --> 00:17:01,626 So we'll have Adam as the one that we will be reaching out to to work through things 271 00:17:01,626 --> 00:17:07,160 on the day-to-day basis. He'll still And have to command his shift and what all. 272 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,964 So it's, uh, it's, it's, it's big double duty, but, uh, 273 00:17:10,964 --> 00:17:15,944 they have kind of spread the workload out so that it's not overwhelming. 274 00:17:15,944 --> 00:17:19,057 Hopefully won't be overwhelming on him alone. 275 00:17:19,057 --> 00:17:24,175 Uh, uh, we sure would appreciate that administrative assistant sooner than 276 00:17:24,175 --> 00:17:24,590 administrative assistant sooner than later. 277 00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:28,879 Um, so anyway, uh, we're looking forward to a, a good process. 278 00:17:28,879 --> 00:17:34,343 Kelly has already been reaching out to MTAS to get that process put into place. 279 00:17:34,343 --> 00:17:38,009 And I think— did we get that advertised this morning? 280 00:17:38,009 --> 00:17:43,473 So the position's posted tomorrow. So, um, anyway, so congratulations, Matthew. 281 00:17:43,473 --> 00:17:46,655 Congratulations, and thank you, Adam, as well. 282 00:17:48,225 --> 00:17:48,889 That's all I've got. 283 00:17:48,889 --> 00:17:54,711 Thank you, Victor. The next item on the agenda is our report from the town 284 00:17:54,711 --> 00:17:55,419 agenda is our report from the town attorney. 285 00:17:57,217 --> 00:18:01,084 The impact fee oral argument was held yesterday. 286 00:18:01,084 --> 00:18:05,999 We should expect a ruling sometime in the next 3 to 9 months, 287 00:18:05,999 --> 00:18:09,060 hopefully on the shorter side of that. 288 00:18:09,060 --> 00:18:14,780 And the Lamar billboard argument in trial court is set for August 11th. 289 00:18:14,780 --> 00:18:18,500 Okay. The next item on the agenda is our consent agenda. 290 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:20,957 Before we vote on the consent agenda, 291 00:18:20,957 --> 00:18:26,204 I do want to note that the fire department report will be updated on the agenda 292 00:18:26,204 --> 00:18:30,189 because the report that is there is not actually the report. 293 00:18:30,189 --> 00:18:33,577 I guess I should have asked this before we started. 294 00:18:33,577 --> 00:18:38,691 Does that need to be pulled from the consent agenda and considered separately 295 00:18:38,691 --> 00:18:39,023 consent agenda and considered separately since 296 00:18:39,023 --> 00:18:40,418 it has to be updated? 297 00:18:40,418 --> 00:18:45,134 Okay, so we'll pull the fire department report from the consent agenda. 298 00:18:45,134 --> 00:18:50,049 Is there a motion for the consent agenda minus the fire department report? 299 00:18:50,049 --> 00:18:50,209 So moved. 300 00:18:51,927 --> 00:18:52,248 Second. 301 00:18:52,248 --> 00:18:54,689 All in favor of the consent agenda signify by saying aye. 302 00:18:55,203 --> 00:18:55,331 Aye. 303 00:18:55,845 --> 00:18:58,483 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 304 00:18:58,483 --> 00:19:03,015 So Matthew sent an updated fire department report, um, just before, 305 00:19:03,015 --> 00:19:04,638 just before the meeting. 306 00:19:04,638 --> 00:19:06,397 It is the standard report, 307 00:19:06,397 --> 00:19:11,132 but there was just an error with December numbers on the previous one, 308 00:19:11,132 --> 00:19:14,581 and then I think it said April as the subject line. 309 00:19:14,581 --> 00:19:19,451 So does anyone have any questions on the updated fire department report? 310 00:19:19,451 --> 00:19:23,848 All in favor of the fire department report signify by saying aye. 311 00:19:23,848 --> 00:19:24,430 Aye. 312 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:27,512 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 313 00:19:27,512 --> 00:19:31,543 The next item on the agenda is unfinished business. 314 00:19:31,543 --> 00:19:34,862 Item 1, second reading of Ordinance 26-09, 315 00:19:34,862 --> 00:19:38,972 an ordinance amending the zoning map of Nolensville, 316 00:19:38,972 --> 00:19:44,978 Tennessee to rezone properties referenced as Map 058, Parcel 08400, Map 059, 317 00:19:44,978 --> 00:19:47,033 Parcel 07100, and Map 059, 318 00:19:47,033 --> 00:19:52,881 Parcel 07101 in the Williamson County tax maps from Municipal Growth Area— 319 00:19:52,881 --> 00:19:58,176 Municipal Area District 1, MGA-1, to Rural Character District CD-2, 320 00:19:58,176 --> 00:20:01,100 Williams property. Is there a motion? 321 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,440 Second. 322 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,833 We have a motion and a second. Any discussion for second reading of Ordinance 323 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:09,253 discussion for second reading of Ordinance 26-09? 324 00:20:09,253 --> 00:20:14,646 This item has been discussed at length, so I don't want to belabor the point, 325 00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:20,389 but this particular property I think is important to at least have some discussion 326 00:20:20,389 --> 00:20:26,062 with the vote in that it is a key property in Nolensville's urban growth boundary 327 00:20:26,062 --> 00:20:30,124 that has been a planned future area for literally decades. 328 00:20:30,124 --> 00:20:34,676 With the east-west connector, that's a future major thoroughfare. 329 00:20:34,676 --> 00:20:39,509 There's a piece of this property from Nolensville Road at Williams to 330 00:20:39,509 --> 00:20:40,489 Nolensville Road at Williams to Clovercroft at 331 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:45,952 Williams that would be a significant piece of that east-west connector for the 332 00:20:45,952 --> 00:20:50,364 portion that passes through Nolensville, not to mention future, 333 00:20:50,364 --> 00:20:54,917 future commercial area that would be expected to be part of this. 334 00:20:54,917 --> 00:21:00,099 While this annexation really is a one-to-one annexation from what is zoned 335 00:21:00,099 --> 00:21:00,520 one-to-one annexation from what is zoned in the 336 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,582 county. The prep— what precipitated this, to my knowledge, 337 00:21:04,582 --> 00:21:09,974 was action by Williamson County to petition the legislature to no longer give 338 00:21:09,974 --> 00:21:10,395 petition the legislature to no longer give us the 339 00:21:10,395 --> 00:21:16,068 authority to annex things that were in the urban growth boundary without approval 340 00:21:16,068 --> 00:21:17,678 from Williamson County. 341 00:21:17,678 --> 00:21:23,211 So the town did not go looking to annex this piece of property or the other one 342 00:21:23,211 --> 00:21:27,694 that's on the agenda, but we have to consider what is before us. 343 00:21:27,694 --> 00:21:30,495 And so I'm still in favor of annexation. 344 00:21:30,495 --> 00:21:30,819 Thank you. 345 00:21:31,264 --> 00:21:35,368 But do think there should be some information shared as part of the vote. 346 00:21:35,368 --> 00:21:38,685 Any other discussion for second reading of Ordinance 26-09? 347 00:21:38,685 --> 00:21:43,181 I'll just make a quick comment here. I am not opposed to this annexation. 348 00:21:43,181 --> 00:21:46,445 I think given the history we have with this property, 349 00:21:46,445 --> 00:21:51,064 I think it's important for us to realize that when we start down this path, 350 00:21:51,064 --> 00:21:56,053 we are now responsible for Williams Road as a part of the transportation plan and 351 00:21:56,053 --> 00:21:58,824 what that means. And so that is something we, 352 00:21:58,824 --> 00:22:03,813 we currently and future boards will need to consider when we talk about budgeting 353 00:22:03,813 --> 00:22:07,631 for road improvements, widening, expansions, things like that. 354 00:22:08,064 --> 00:22:12,576 So any other discussion for Ordinance 26-09? 355 00:22:12,576 --> 00:22:17,057 Mayor, I appreciate your commentary as well as that of Commissioner Struford, 356 00:22:17,057 --> 00:22:21,655 and we have discussed this at length at several public meetings, More recently, 357 00:22:21,655 --> 00:22:25,671 of course, at our workshop leading up to this month's voting meeting. 358 00:22:25,671 --> 00:22:27,998 But I think what you said was on target. 359 00:22:27,998 --> 00:22:31,432 It bears referencing, if not repeating the entire dialogue, 360 00:22:31,432 --> 00:22:35,739 because this is a significant part of Nolensville's plans for decades now. 361 00:22:35,739 --> 00:22:40,278 It is in our urban growth boundary that's just right there on the cusp of our, 362 00:22:40,278 --> 00:22:42,373 of our present corporate boundaries. 363 00:22:42,373 --> 00:22:46,971 And yeah, the, the county put us all in a kind of On notice last year when they 364 00:22:46,971 --> 00:22:51,685 decided to unilaterally move forward with trying to get our legislature to change 365 00:22:51,685 --> 00:22:55,875 the state statute that would have withdrawn from our body the ability to 366 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:56,166 withdrawn from our body the ability to annex 367 00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:58,552 properties without consent of the county. 368 00:22:58,552 --> 00:23:01,462 So this is a necessary move for a host of reasons, 369 00:23:01,462 --> 00:23:03,674 and that's being one of them for sure. 370 00:23:03,674 --> 00:23:06,526 And I appreciate the mayor for pointing that out. 371 00:23:06,526 --> 00:23:11,356 I believe we ought to move forward tonight and do, do what we've already discussed, 372 00:23:11,356 --> 00:23:14,149 but I think the public visiting with us tonight, 373 00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:16,768 as well as might be joining us by livestream, 374 00:23:16,768 --> 00:23:21,133 deserve to hear exactly what we've discussed in the past and just reference 375 00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:21,424 discussed in the past and just reference those 376 00:23:21,424 --> 00:23:22,239 conversations. 377 00:23:22,239 --> 00:23:26,911 Thank you. Any other discussion for Ordinance 26-09? 378 00:23:26,911 --> 00:23:30,056 All in favor signify by saying aye. 379 00:23:30,491 --> 00:23:30,620 Aye. 380 00:23:31,296 --> 00:23:34,173 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 381 00:23:34,173 --> 00:23:36,754 The next item is Resolution 26-044, 382 00:23:36,754 --> 00:23:42,729 a resolution annexing certain territory upon written consent of the owners and to 383 00:23:42,729 --> 00:23:48,703 incorporate the same within the boundaries of the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee. 384 00:23:48,703 --> 00:23:54,678 Tax Map 058, Parcel 08400, also referenced as 7421 Nolensville Road, Nolensville, 385 00:23:54,678 --> 00:23:57,850 Tennessee 37135. Tax Map 059, Parcel 07100, 386 00:23:57,850 --> 00:24:03,086 also referenced as 7427 Nolensville Road, Nolensville, Tennessee 37135. 387 00:24:03,086 --> 00:24:07,955 And Tax Map 059, Parcel 07101, also referenced as 0 Williams Road, 388 00:24:07,955 --> 00:24:08,840 referenced as 0 Williams Road, Nolensville, 389 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,610 Tennessee 37135. Second. 390 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:11,061 Williams. 391 00:24:11,816 --> 00:24:12,459 Is there a motion? 392 00:24:12,459 --> 00:24:13,407 Motion to approve. 393 00:24:13,407 --> 00:24:14,211 Second. 394 00:24:14,211 --> 00:24:15,917 We have a motion and a second. 395 00:24:15,917 --> 00:24:20,522 Any discussion for this resolution that is also paired with the ordinance that we 396 00:24:20,522 --> 00:24:24,445 just discussed? All in favor of the resolution signify by saying aye. 397 00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:24,975 Aye. 398 00:24:25,522 --> 00:24:28,288 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 399 00:24:28,288 --> 00:24:32,898 The next item on the agenda is second reading of Ordinance 26-10, 400 00:24:32,898 --> 00:24:36,585 an ordinance amending the zoning map of Nolensville, 401 00:24:36,585 --> 00:24:41,904 Tennessee to rezone properties referenced as Map 083, Parcel 00500 Map 083, 402 00:24:41,904 --> 00:24:45,379 Parcel 00501, Map 083, Parcel 00600, and Map 058, 403 00:24:45,379 --> 00:24:51,194 Parcel 11300 in the Williamson County tax maps from Municipal Growth Area District 404 00:24:51,194 --> 00:24:56,442 1, MGA-1, to Rural Character District CD-2, Vance Lake. Is there a motion? 405 00:24:56,442 --> 00:24:57,719 Motion to approve. 406 00:24:57,719 --> 00:24:58,204 Second. 407 00:24:58,204 --> 00:25:01,511 We have a motion and a second from Commissioner Carpenter. 408 00:25:01,511 --> 00:25:05,653 Any discussion for second reading of Ordinance 26-10? 409 00:25:08,653 --> 00:25:09,951 Mayor and Commissioners, 410 00:25:09,951 --> 00:25:13,790 we've had this discussion again in similarity to the Williams property. 411 00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:18,061 I think what's important, and this does apply to the Williams property as well, 412 00:25:18,061 --> 00:25:22,495 is we do need to look a little bit deeper at the zoning to allow a little bit more 413 00:25:22,495 --> 00:25:25,685 flexibility. I know we're in the process of that right now, 414 00:25:25,685 --> 00:25:29,794 but I think it's important for us to consider some additional flexibility to 415 00:25:29,794 --> 00:25:30,064 consider some additional flexibility to allow 416 00:25:30,064 --> 00:25:34,498 the town to get a product that they want as well as the developers who are part of 417 00:25:34,498 --> 00:25:36,823 this process to get what they want as well. 418 00:25:36,823 --> 00:25:40,292 So a couple comments about the Vance-Lyke property. 419 00:25:40,292 --> 00:25:45,938 When we started, these 2 annexations came together but started about a month apart. 420 00:25:45,938 --> 00:25:50,087 I have expressed support previously of continuous annexation. 421 00:25:50,087 --> 00:25:54,237 The Vance-Lyke property is continuous— is contiguous Outside. 422 00:25:54,237 --> 00:25:59,134 I think I said continuous the first time too. I meant to say contiguous. 423 00:25:59,134 --> 00:26:04,372 I have expressed support of contiguous annexation that does not unnecessarily 424 00:26:04,372 --> 00:26:08,249 increase density just for the sake of increasing density. 425 00:26:08,249 --> 00:26:12,943 There have been annexation requests that the board, including myself, 426 00:26:12,943 --> 00:26:18,453 have voted against. With the Van Slyke property, there's been several challenges, 427 00:26:18,453 --> 00:26:21,310 one of which is, is how far south it goes. 428 00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:26,343 I think the challenge for the town of Nolensville and the services that we 429 00:26:26,343 --> 00:26:26,819 Nolensville and the services that we provide 430 00:26:26,819 --> 00:26:31,921 is an interlocal agreement that we will consider at the end of this agenda. 431 00:26:31,921 --> 00:26:37,159 And it's something where we provide fire service to unincorporated Williamson 432 00:26:37,159 --> 00:26:37,567 service to unincorporated Williamson County 433 00:26:37,567 --> 00:26:39,880 down to our urban growth boundary. 434 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,825 That's not an exact mark of the line, but down Birkhollow, 435 00:26:43,825 --> 00:26:49,199 we actually provide fire service even though the people that live on Birkhollow 436 00:26:49,199 --> 00:26:49,335 though the people that live on Birkhollow do 437 00:26:49,335 --> 00:26:50,287 not pay taxes. 438 00:26:50,287 --> 00:26:50,545 Okay. 439 00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:52,601 to the Town of Nolensville. 440 00:26:52,601 --> 00:26:57,296 It's the same for Silverstream, and it's also the same south to, 441 00:26:57,296 --> 00:26:59,276 to the Vance Lake property. 442 00:26:59,276 --> 00:27:04,191 And so I think that presents an interesting conundrum for the town, 443 00:27:04,191 --> 00:27:09,840 because if we're providing services without the corresponding way that we pay 444 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,060 without the corresponding way that we pay for 445 00:27:10,060 --> 00:27:12,847 those services, that, that's an issue. 446 00:27:12,847 --> 00:27:18,349 If these annexations were increasing density outside of what it was already 447 00:27:18,349 --> 00:27:18,936 density outside of what it was already zoned in 448 00:27:18,936 --> 00:27:22,530 Williamson County, I would have concern for that. 449 00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:27,812 But this falls into the same category for me as the Williams annexation. 450 00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:30,893 I think it's unfortunate that the town is, 451 00:27:30,893 --> 00:27:34,708 is being tasked to annex close to 600 acres tonight. 452 00:27:34,708 --> 00:27:40,723 I mean, this is quite possibly the most total acreage of annexations that the town 453 00:27:40,723 --> 00:27:43,951 has done in any one night that I'm aware of, 454 00:27:43,951 --> 00:27:49,086 certainly in the last almost 6 years that I've I've been on the board. 455 00:27:49,086 --> 00:27:54,881 But it still is a fact that if we're going to continue to have to service these 456 00:27:54,881 --> 00:28:01,043 areas for fire service, it makes sense for us to annex in our urban growth boundary, 457 00:28:01,043 --> 00:28:06,325 especially when those annexations are essentially a one-for-one for, um, 458 00:28:06,325 --> 00:28:09,406 what could be developed in, in the county. 459 00:28:09,406 --> 00:28:14,321 One other thing is that this property does not have sewer capacity. 460 00:28:14,321 --> 00:28:16,888 Neither does the Williams property. 461 00:28:16,888 --> 00:28:22,903 So just because there's an annexation does not mean that there will be development 462 00:28:22,903 --> 00:28:27,378 anytime soon because we don't have sewer capacity from Metro. 463 00:28:27,378 --> 00:28:32,513 So I am still in support of the annexation of the Vance Lake property, 464 00:28:32,513 --> 00:28:38,529 which as of the last ordinance is now a contiguous annexation within Nolensville's 465 00:28:38,529 --> 00:28:41,683 municipal boundaries. Any other discussion? 466 00:28:41,683 --> 00:28:47,038 All in favor of second reading of Ordinance 26-10, signify by saying aye. 467 00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:47,654 Aye. 468 00:28:48,205 --> 00:28:51,280 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 469 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,040 The next item is Resolution 26-045, 470 00:28:54,040 --> 00:29:00,426 a resolution annexing certain territory upon written consent of the owners and to 471 00:29:00,426 --> 00:29:06,813 incorporate the same within the boundaries of the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee. 472 00:29:06,813 --> 00:29:13,199 Tax Map 058, Parcel 11300, also referenced as 7473 Nolensville Road, Nolensville, 473 00:29:13,199 --> 00:29:16,590 Tennessee 37135. Tax Map 083, Parcel 00501, 474 00:29:16,590 --> 00:29:22,188 also referenced as 7509 Nolensville Road, Nolensville, Tennessee 37135. 475 00:29:22,188 --> 00:29:26,682 Tax Map 083, Parcel 00500, and Tax Map 083, Parcel 00600, 476 00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:33,148 also referenced as 7511 Nolensville Road, Nolensville, Tennessee 37135. Van Slyke. 477 00:29:33,148 --> 00:29:34,567 Is there a motion? 478 00:29:34,567 --> 00:29:35,706 Motion to approve. 479 00:29:35,706 --> 00:29:37,059 Second. 480 00:29:37,059 --> 00:29:39,489 We have a motion and a second. 481 00:29:39,489 --> 00:29:42,406 Any discussion on Resolution 26-045, 482 00:29:42,406 --> 00:29:45,403 which does pair with Ordinance 26-11? 483 00:29:45,403 --> 00:29:48,239 All in favor signify by saying aye. 484 00:29:48,239 --> 00:29:48,882 Aye. 485 00:29:48,882 --> 00:29:51,360 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 486 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,364 The next item on the agenda is new business, Resolution 26-086, 487 00:29:55,364 --> 00:30:00,384 a resolution granting a certificate of compliance to Tipsy Cow Wine and Spirits 488 00:30:00,384 --> 00:30:00,574 compliance to Tipsy Cow Wine and Spirits LLC 489 00:30:00,574 --> 00:30:05,022 for a retail Package Liquor Store at 7344 Nolensville Road, Suite 302, 490 00:30:05,022 --> 00:30:07,882 in Nolensville, Tennessee. Is there a motion? 491 00:30:07,882 --> 00:30:09,576 Motion to approve. 492 00:30:09,576 --> 00:30:11,898 And a second. 493 00:30:11,898 --> 00:30:17,020 We have a motion and a second by Commissioner Gill. Any discussion? 494 00:30:17,020 --> 00:30:21,224 I'd just like to say the board does not pick the names. 495 00:30:21,224 --> 00:30:25,199 We, you know, businesses pick, pick their own names. 496 00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:31,162 Any other discussion for Resolution 26-08? All in favor signify by saying aye. 497 00:30:31,756 --> 00:30:31,932 Aye. 498 00:30:32,317 --> 00:30:34,479 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 499 00:30:34,479 --> 00:30:38,582 First reading of Ordinance 26-15, an ordinance of the Town of Nolensville, 500 00:30:38,582 --> 00:30:41,022 Tennessee, amending plan review, permitting, 501 00:30:41,022 --> 00:30:45,457 and inspection fees contained in Appendix B of the Town of Nolensville Municipal 502 00:30:45,457 --> 00:30:48,895 Code. Is there a motion? Motion to approve. Is there a second? 503 00:30:48,895 --> 00:30:49,874 Second. 504 00:30:49,874 --> 00:30:55,169 Any discussion? Chuck, did you have anything to add, or just for questions? 505 00:30:55,929 --> 00:31:00,698 Just as a point of interest on this ordinance on first reading, 506 00:31:00,698 --> 00:31:06,148 we will be presenting some further amendment to you at the upcoming work 507 00:31:06,148 --> 00:31:06,754 amendment to you at the upcoming work session. 508 00:31:06,754 --> 00:31:09,479 So keep an open perspective on that. 509 00:31:09,479 --> 00:31:15,611 We're doing our best to streamline fees as we implement our online portal system. 510 00:31:15,611 --> 00:31:20,758 And so there was another thought to consolidate and simplify our fee 511 00:31:20,758 --> 00:31:21,515 consolidate and simplify our fee structure. 512 00:31:21,515 --> 00:31:21,644 Yes. 513 00:31:21,772 --> 00:31:23,385 as they relate to plumbing permits. 514 00:31:23,385 --> 00:31:27,164 So we'll be coming back to you all with some adjustments in that in a future time. 515 00:31:27,164 --> 00:31:32,782 Thank you. Any other discussion? All in favor signify by saying aye. 516 00:31:33,311 --> 00:31:33,359 Aye. 517 00:31:33,953 --> 00:31:37,393 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 518 00:31:37,393 --> 00:31:43,038 The next item on the agenda is first reading of Ordinance 26-14, 519 00:31:43,038 --> 00:31:47,625 an ordinance amending the zoning map of Nolensville, 520 00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:54,240 Tennessee to rezone property referenced as Tax Map 033, Parcel 10400 in Um, 521 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:01,208 in the Williamson County tax maps from Municipal Growth Area District 1, MGA-1, 522 00:32:01,208 --> 00:32:07,294 to neighbor— to Neighborhood Character District CD-3, Traver Ringman. 523 00:32:07,294 --> 00:32:12,233 Is there a motion? Ordinance fails for lack of a motion. 524 00:32:12,233 --> 00:32:15,056 Is that the correct terminology? 525 00:32:16,861 --> 00:32:17,155 Okay. 526 00:32:17,581 --> 00:32:20,594 The next item on the agenda is Resolution 26-077, 527 00:32:20,594 --> 00:32:25,574 a resolution calling for a public hearing on the proposed annexation of territory 528 00:32:25,574 --> 00:32:30,431 into the Town of Nolensville by owner consent and approving a plan of services. 529 00:32:30,431 --> 00:32:35,411 Tennessee Tax Map 033, Parcel 10400, also referenced as 0 Kidd Road, Nolensville, 530 00:32:35,411 --> 00:32:38,547 Tennessee 37135, Tarver Ringman. Is there a motion? 531 00:32:38,547 --> 00:32:39,344 So moved. 532 00:32:42,344 --> 00:32:44,875 Resolution fails for lack of a motion. 533 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:48,138 The next item on the agenda is Resolution 26-078, 534 00:32:48,138 --> 00:32:53,466 a resolution to amend the terms of the Nolensville Buttercup Festival Committee. 535 00:32:53,466 --> 00:32:54,665 Is there a motion? 536 00:32:54,665 --> 00:32:55,983 Motion to approve. 537 00:32:55,983 --> 00:32:57,722 Is there a second? 538 00:32:57,722 --> 00:32:58,306 Second. 539 00:32:58,306 --> 00:33:00,302 That was kind of a tie. 540 00:33:00,302 --> 00:33:01,048 He can have it. 541 00:33:01,048 --> 00:33:05,483 Uh, second by Commissioner Struford. 542 00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:09,919 Any discussion on Resolution 26-078? 543 00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:15,217 So I did contact all of the current members 544 00:33:15,217 --> 00:33:17,311 on the committee. 545 00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:20,253 They all expressed interest in staying on the committee, 546 00:33:20,253 --> 00:33:23,211 and they did think that the dates that you all chose will be— 547 00:33:23,211 --> 00:33:25,539 make sure that they can plan a successful event. 548 00:33:25,539 --> 00:33:27,669 Thank you, Montique. 549 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:32,249 Any other discussion for Resolution 26-078? 550 00:33:32,249 --> 00:33:35,976 All in favor signify by saying aye. 551 00:33:35,976 --> 00:33:36,589 Aye. 552 00:33:36,589 --> 00:33:38,964 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 553 00:33:38,964 --> 00:33:40,548 Item 6, Resolution 26-082, 554 00:33:40,548 --> 00:33:45,055 a resolution authorizing purchase of a vehicle through Tennessee Statewide 555 00:33:45,055 --> 00:33:45,542 vehicle through Tennessee Statewide Contract 556 00:33:45,542 --> 00:33:47,917 for Fire and Rescue. Is there a motion? 557 00:33:47,917 --> 00:33:48,663 Motion to approve. 558 00:33:48,663 --> 00:33:49,940 Second. 559 00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:51,945 It's yours. 560 00:33:51,945 --> 00:33:55,210 Motion and a second by Commissioner Gill. 561 00:33:55,455 --> 00:33:55,732 That's— 562 00:33:55,879 --> 00:33:57,005 we have a lot of ties tonight. 563 00:33:57,054 --> 00:33:59,937 I'm telling you. 564 00:34:02,937 --> 00:34:05,042 And Victor is wearing a tie. That is, that is true. 565 00:34:05,042 --> 00:34:06,825 So is Captain Weingarten. 566 00:34:06,825 --> 00:34:09,348 This is a serious event. 567 00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:14,649 Listen, this could be the chief's last time. Does that mean we give him a hard 568 00:34:14,649 --> 00:34:14,989 time. Does that mean we give him a hard time? 569 00:34:14,989 --> 00:34:17,228 I'm just here for questions if you have any questions. 570 00:34:17,228 --> 00:34:20,152 Do you want to share anything? 571 00:34:20,152 --> 00:34:24,377 Who do you think you are? Leaving us now. 572 00:34:24,686 --> 00:34:27,559 I'm just following Chuck's example up here. 573 00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:29,620 Just standing, standing waiting. 574 00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:31,653 Okay. 575 00:34:32,285 --> 00:34:34,993 All right. Any discussion on Resolution 26-082? 576 00:34:34,993 --> 00:34:35,528 Oh, Chuck said— 577 00:34:35,528 --> 00:34:36,193 did you have a question? 578 00:34:36,518 --> 00:34:36,761 No. 579 00:34:37,799 --> 00:34:42,409 So just to clarify here, sorry, the plan is to purchase the truck, 580 00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:44,295 then outfit with equipment? 581 00:34:44,343 --> 00:34:44,472 Yes. 582 00:34:44,569 --> 00:34:44,826 Correct. 583 00:34:45,068 --> 00:34:45,245 Okay. 584 00:34:45,711 --> 00:34:46,017 Thank you. 585 00:34:46,017 --> 00:34:48,454 And I think it bears repeating. 586 00:34:48,454 --> 00:34:53,486 Of course, the funding for this is coming from fire impact fees. 587 00:34:53,824 --> 00:34:54,065 Thank you. 588 00:34:54,065 --> 00:34:59,453 Any other burning questions for Chief Lupo? 589 00:34:59,453 --> 00:35:02,059 Oh, I see what you did there. Burning questions. I see. 590 00:35:02,108 --> 00:35:04,568 Like, it's not as good as Victor's dad jokes, but I'm trying. 591 00:35:04,568 --> 00:35:08,527 I don't know, Mayor, you used conundrum earlier tonight. I'm— I was impressed. 592 00:35:08,625 --> 00:35:11,208 I mean, you used ameliorate last week. 593 00:35:12,246 --> 00:35:13,537 And we— before we got underway, 594 00:35:13,537 --> 00:35:16,368 the vice mayor and I discussed the meaning of the term eleemosynary. 595 00:35:18,879 --> 00:35:19,850 That's a new one. 596 00:35:19,850 --> 00:35:21,566 Anyway, I guess we ought to vote now. 597 00:35:21,566 --> 00:35:27,488 All right, all in favor of Resolution 26-082 signify by saying aye. 598 00:35:28,359 --> 00:35:28,391 Aye. 599 00:35:28,746 --> 00:35:32,376 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. The next— thank you, Chief Lupo. 600 00:35:32,376 --> 00:35:34,846 The next item on the agenda is Resolution 26-084, 601 00:35:34,846 --> 00:35:38,980 a resolution expressing support for the development of a pavilion on the Greystone 602 00:35:38,980 --> 00:35:42,156 Park property in partnership with Friends of Nolensville Parks. 603 00:35:42,156 --> 00:35:42,995 Motion to approve. 604 00:35:42,995 --> 00:35:43,495 Second. 605 00:35:43,972 --> 00:35:47,767 We have a motion to approve by Commissioner Carpenter. Was there another 606 00:35:47,767 --> 00:35:47,978 Commissioner Carpenter. Was there another tie? 607 00:35:47,978 --> 00:35:48,378 No. 608 00:35:48,378 --> 00:35:53,971 And a second by Commissioner Gill. Any discussion for Resolution 26-084? 609 00:35:53,971 --> 00:35:56,059 Can I just ask for confirmation? 610 00:35:56,059 --> 00:36:00,562 Um, so I know that Victor— there was a question raised about the pad, 611 00:36:00,562 --> 00:36:04,869 and so I know pricing came to all of us about the cost of the pad. 612 00:36:04,869 --> 00:36:07,283 One of the questions I had asked was, 613 00:36:07,283 --> 00:36:10,807 is that something that you all are hopeful to Correct. 614 00:36:10,807 --> 00:36:14,266 And I just wanted to confirm that that was an actual— 615 00:36:14,266 --> 00:36:18,227 You are using the word hopeful. Would you like to specify? 616 00:36:18,227 --> 00:36:22,578 When we had talked about it, it seemed like there was slight confusion over the 617 00:36:22,578 --> 00:36:22,798 like there was slight confusion over the pad, 618 00:36:22,798 --> 00:36:25,331 so I just wanted to confirm that the question— 619 00:36:25,331 --> 00:36:27,233 It is my understanding that we will be funding it. 620 00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:27,990 Perfect. Thank you. 621 00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:28,635 That is all I wanted. 622 00:36:28,635 --> 00:36:31,505 Can I get the pricing information that y'all got? I also got some. 623 00:36:31,911 --> 00:36:32,593 We can exchange notes. 624 00:36:32,593 --> 00:36:33,616 I think it was sent today. 625 00:36:33,616 --> 00:36:34,591 Oh, okay. 626 00:36:34,753 --> 00:36:34,883 Great. 627 00:36:35,224 --> 00:36:36,069 We can exchange notes. 628 00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:37,254 I will forward you the email that I sent. 629 00:36:38,908 --> 00:36:39,248 Thank you. 630 00:36:40,428 --> 00:36:43,908 All right, any other discussion for Resolution 26-084? 631 00:36:43,908 --> 00:36:46,163 All in favor signify by saying aye. 632 00:36:46,163 --> 00:36:46,781 Aye. 633 00:36:46,781 --> 00:36:50,106 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 634 00:36:50,106 --> 00:36:53,090 The next item is Resolution 26-087, 635 00:36:53,090 --> 00:36:59,656 a resolution to approve TDOT Statewide Partnership Program Agreement contract 636 00:36:59,656 --> 00:37:00,167 Partnership Program Agreement contract number 637 00:37:00,167 --> 00:37:05,283 260105 for Nolensville Road Widening Project, PIN 133919.00. 638 00:37:05,283 --> 00:37:09,546 US 31A, US 41A, State Route 11. Is there a motion? 639 00:37:09,546 --> 00:37:10,726 Motion to approve. 640 00:37:10,726 --> 00:37:11,939 Second. 641 00:37:11,939 --> 00:37:16,107 We have a motion and a second. Any discussion for Resolution 26-087? 642 00:37:16,107 --> 00:37:23,839 I just think somebody needs to talk about the significance of what this is. 643 00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:30,823 The Nolensville Road— does anybody else want to go into it? I mean, I can. 644 00:37:31,279 --> 00:37:31,588 No, Haley. 645 00:37:34,211 --> 00:37:38,919 Um, you know, Commissioner Carpenter really likes it when I repeat the same 646 00:37:38,919 --> 00:37:39,296 really likes it when I repeat the same things 647 00:37:39,296 --> 00:37:40,551 over and over again, 648 00:37:40,551 --> 00:37:45,385 so I'll start off by saying I'm most likely to get yelled at over Nolensville 649 00:37:45,385 --> 00:37:45,699 likely to get yelled at over Nolensville Road. 650 00:37:45,699 --> 00:37:47,833 And actually, during the election, 651 00:37:47,833 --> 00:37:52,855 I had a woman walk up to me and ask who was the mayor of Nolensville because she 652 00:37:52,855 --> 00:37:55,303 really wanted to punch him in the face. 653 00:37:55,303 --> 00:37:59,509 And it was over traffic, and she actually was very kind in the end. 654 00:37:59,509 --> 00:38:01,392 But Nolensville Road, I think, 655 00:38:01,392 --> 00:38:05,661 is the undisputed issue within our community with 1 North-South, um, 656 00:38:05,661 --> 00:38:08,925 1 North-South Road. I think this board was very, uh, 657 00:38:08,925 --> 00:38:13,758 proactive in the approach that we took to apply for the Statewide Partnership 658 00:38:13,758 --> 00:38:18,843 Program. It is the only way that TDOT has identified how to get state routes onto 659 00:38:18,843 --> 00:38:23,426 their 10-year list. So with that application that was submitted on behalf 660 00:38:23,426 --> 00:38:23,802 application that was submitted on behalf of the 661 00:38:23,802 --> 00:38:27,443 Town of Nolensville We have already submitted a check for— 662 00:38:27,443 --> 00:38:32,591 or are in short order submitting a check for $500,000 for the design and then have 663 00:38:32,591 --> 00:38:37,299 this contract to move forward with that will start the process for widening 664 00:38:37,299 --> 00:38:42,446 Nolensville Road. I think it's important for the community to understand that even 665 00:38:42,446 --> 00:38:47,719 though we're on the 10-year list, it does not mean construction will start tomorrow. 666 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,109 It actually means construction will start in 10 years. 667 00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:56,131 That is very painful for, I think, anybody that is along Nolensville Road daily, 668 00:38:56,131 --> 00:38:58,391 as many of us are. But it is a step, 669 00:38:58,391 --> 00:39:03,412 and it is one of very few projects across the state that were added to the list. 670 00:39:03,412 --> 00:39:08,309 It is not a— it is not something that every community is able to say that they 671 00:39:08,309 --> 00:39:08,497 every community is able to say that they got 672 00:39:08,497 --> 00:39:11,196 their state road added to the 10-year list. 673 00:39:11,196 --> 00:39:13,958 So I am very proud of us being on this list, 674 00:39:13,958 --> 00:39:18,918 and I hope I believe the rest of the board is. I hope the community is as well. 675 00:39:18,918 --> 00:39:20,801 It is, it is a big commitment. 676 00:39:20,801 --> 00:39:24,693 The scary part of that commitment is the financial commitment. 677 00:39:24,693 --> 00:39:28,208 We initially proposed $10.5 million as our contribution. 678 00:39:28,208 --> 00:39:30,091 That is not how TDOT operates. 679 00:39:30,091 --> 00:39:34,925 TDOT operates where they will give a specific amount and you have to fund any 680 00:39:34,925 --> 00:39:39,884 overages. So I, I think it's incumbent upon us as an organization with staff to 681 00:39:39,884 --> 00:39:40,135 upon us as an organization with staff to work 682 00:39:40,135 --> 00:39:45,094 very closely with TDOT to try to keep this project within scope, within budget, 683 00:39:45,094 --> 00:39:48,296 because it is a significant financial contribution. 684 00:39:48,296 --> 00:39:52,439 It's almost equal to one year's operational budget for the Town of 685 00:39:52,439 --> 00:39:53,192 operational budget for the Town of Nolensville, 686 00:39:53,192 --> 00:39:58,151 and when it was submitted, it was closer to it than what the budget is for '71. 687 00:39:58,151 --> 00:40:01,227 So I think that we should move forward with this. 688 00:40:01,227 --> 00:40:05,747 I think Nolensville Road has always been a key for economic development. 689 00:40:05,747 --> 00:40:10,078 Our businesses need to be able to have— I think that's a great point. 690 00:40:10,078 --> 00:40:12,777 cars be able to come to them to visit them. 691 00:40:12,777 --> 00:40:16,418 It's also quality of life for the citizens of Nolensville. 692 00:40:16,418 --> 00:40:20,373 So I hope the board will continue to support Resolution 26-087. 693 00:40:20,373 --> 00:40:24,696 Oh, I haven't said much tonight, so now is my chance. 694 00:40:24,696 --> 00:40:30,814 Um, I, uh, I'll just say that I think we have a lot on our plate right now. 695 00:40:30,814 --> 00:40:37,666 We have a lot of competing Needs that are not something that we can just push aside. 696 00:40:37,666 --> 00:40:41,989 And I think that this project is, is going to be the, 697 00:40:41,989 --> 00:40:46,068 the biggest of those things in terms of longevity, 698 00:40:46,068 --> 00:40:50,146 in terms of how we will remember our time up here. 699 00:40:50,146 --> 00:40:54,306 Road projects— and I know this goes without saying, 700 00:40:54,306 --> 00:40:57,487 but there's an economic factor to this. 701 00:40:57,487 --> 00:41:02,953 Um, our town is rapidly growing and we are getting more commercial, 702 00:41:02,953 --> 00:41:06,705 and I know we all desire even more commercial. 703 00:41:06,705 --> 00:41:12,660 People have— like the mayor said, people have to have a way to get there. 704 00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:17,554 And one of the things that— I said this at the last meeting— 705 00:41:17,554 --> 00:41:23,753 but one of the things that I heard a lot over the last couple years was that 706 00:41:23,753 --> 00:41:30,605 employees are hard to retain because they don't want to drive down Nolensville Road. 707 00:41:30,605 --> 00:41:30,863 Right. 708 00:41:31,468 --> 00:41:37,059 Customers are switching to online ordering, which thankfully we still get 709 00:41:37,059 --> 00:41:37,366 ordering, which thankfully we still get the, 710 00:41:37,366 --> 00:41:38,898 the benefit of that. 711 00:41:38,898 --> 00:41:45,025 But if we want to, to continue to support our businesses, to support our people, 712 00:41:45,025 --> 00:41:48,625 this is, this is the best thing that we can do. 713 00:41:48,625 --> 00:41:52,991 And speaking from a position of, in my professional life, 714 00:41:52,991 --> 00:41:57,664 seeing a lot of these projects, getting on this list is huge. 715 00:41:57,664 --> 00:42:02,489 And it's It's really the only way that this is going to happen. 716 00:42:02,489 --> 00:42:05,323 And so yes, the dollar figure is big, 717 00:42:05,323 --> 00:42:09,459 but we've taken small steps this last budget cycle to, 718 00:42:09,459 --> 00:42:14,898 to start getting to a place where we, we will be ready when TDOT calls. 719 00:42:14,898 --> 00:42:21,332 And so I'm actually really proud that I'm up here and able to vote on this because I 720 00:42:21,332 --> 00:42:27,718 think it's going to be— Thank you. 721 00:42:30,718 --> 00:42:30,862 Please. 722 00:42:30,862 --> 00:42:31,521 Oh, no. 723 00:42:31,521 --> 00:42:36,491 Mayor, I will say that what you and Commissioner Carpenter offered tonight is 724 00:42:36,491 --> 00:42:36,814 Commissioner Carpenter offered tonight is right 725 00:42:36,814 --> 00:42:42,107 on point. And I remember the night that we sat at this desk and we had to hash out 726 00:42:42,107 --> 00:42:44,624 what would be our contribution to this. 727 00:42:44,624 --> 00:42:49,078 And we, we can't discuss this outside of this room, nor should we be. 728 00:42:49,078 --> 00:42:53,661 And everything we do is in the public eye and we had to exchange ideas. 729 00:42:53,661 --> 00:42:57,534 And why do we think this figure might work better than that? 730 00:42:57,534 --> 00:43:00,116 And we came to the $10.5 million figure. 731 00:43:00,116 --> 00:43:05,021 And one thing I will just share with all of my neighbors across Nolensville, 732 00:43:05,021 --> 00:43:06,506 this is TDOT's program. 733 00:43:06,506 --> 00:43:10,508 This is the way they have chosen to run their, their business. 734 00:43:10,508 --> 00:43:15,542 And it's a 10-year plan. Nolensville was not on it a year ago, but we are now. 735 00:43:15,542 --> 00:43:16,898 And it's pay to play. 736 00:43:16,898 --> 00:43:17,028 Okay. 737 00:43:17,233 --> 00:43:21,459 We had to pony up some. And Victor, thank you for keeping it on the forefront. 738 00:43:21,459 --> 00:43:24,493 Thank you for keeping it where we would be acting on it. 739 00:43:24,493 --> 00:43:28,882 Mayor, I've had a brief conversation with our state senator who happens to be the 740 00:43:28,882 --> 00:43:31,591 majority leader of the state Senate, Jack Johnson. 741 00:43:31,591 --> 00:43:35,167 This is before the TDOT gave us the word that we were on the list. 742 00:43:35,167 --> 00:43:36,901 And he said to me, he goes, hey, 743 00:43:36,901 --> 00:43:40,693 I saw Haley the other day and I told her that was huge what y'all did, 744 00:43:40,693 --> 00:43:43,890 the vote y'all took to add $10.5 million. I'm like, really? 745 00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:44,051 Yeah. 746 00:43:44,322 --> 00:43:46,421 Okay, good. Maybe we'll get some good news. 747 00:43:46,421 --> 00:43:49,106 And surely enough, like 3 or 4 weeks later, we got the— 748 00:43:49,106 --> 00:43:50,864 we got the news we were on the list. 749 00:43:50,864 --> 00:43:54,184 It is going to be a decade away, but if we don't start doing it now, 750 00:43:54,184 --> 00:43:57,503 it'll be 2 decades away before anything might change for our people. 751 00:43:57,503 --> 00:43:59,066 And the quality of life for the— 752 00:43:59,066 --> 00:44:03,069 for the people that call Nolensville home would not be impacted unless we took the 753 00:44:03,069 --> 00:44:05,608 steps we— we took. So we ought to say thank you, um, 754 00:44:05,608 --> 00:44:08,586 to the taxpayers that are going to be financing this when it— 755 00:44:08,586 --> 00:44:12,052 when the bill comes due. The taxpayers know we're going to be doing it. 756 00:44:12,052 --> 00:44:14,688 But if I can also say thanks to each of my colleagues, 757 00:44:14,688 --> 00:44:18,740 I hope the people of Nolens will see that in this specific vote and hopefully other 758 00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:19,863 votes we've been doing, 759 00:44:19,863 --> 00:44:23,329 that we are trying to do the people's business and do it well and do it 760 00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:23,915 business and do it well and do it thoughtfully 761 00:44:23,915 --> 00:44:25,770 up here. And we're acting collegially, 762 00:44:25,770 --> 00:44:29,481 but we're also diving into the details because that's how we arrived at that 763 00:44:29,481 --> 00:44:29,725 because that's how we arrived at that $10.5 764 00:44:29,725 --> 00:44:31,726 million figure. We dove into the details. 765 00:44:31,726 --> 00:44:35,437 And lastly, the mayor referenced the dear lady who was at the polling place. 766 00:44:35,437 --> 00:44:39,196 As I recall, Commissioner Carpenter and I were standing nearby And I offered, 767 00:44:39,196 --> 00:44:42,857 I said, Haley, do you want me to tell her that Jake McCalmon's the mayor of 768 00:44:42,857 --> 00:44:45,005 Nolensville? And she goes, nope, I got this. 769 00:44:45,005 --> 00:44:47,007 So good on you for taking it what it was. 770 00:44:47,007 --> 00:44:48,960 But, um, I was going to send her to say— 771 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,475 I was going to point towards State Representative Jake McCalmon and say, 772 00:44:52,475 --> 00:44:56,234 that's the mayor of Nolensville right there, lady. Go talk to him about that. 773 00:44:56,234 --> 00:44:59,993 But no, Haley stood up and took it. So thank you to everybody in this matter. 774 00:44:59,993 --> 00:45:04,544 All right. Any other discussion for Resolution 26-087? 775 00:45:04,544 --> 00:45:07,493 All in favor signify by saying aye. 776 00:45:08,007 --> 00:45:08,055 Aye. 777 00:45:09,133 --> 00:45:11,107 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 778 00:45:11,107 --> 00:45:13,637 The next item is first reading of Ordinance 26-17, 779 00:45:13,637 --> 00:45:17,786 an ordinance amending the fiscal year 2027 budget by the Board of Commissioners in 780 00:45:17,786 --> 00:45:20,519 the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee. Is there a motion? 781 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:23,401 Second. 782 00:45:23,401 --> 00:45:27,972 We have a motion and a second by Commissioner Carpenter. 783 00:45:27,972 --> 00:45:32,216 Any discussion for first reading of Ordinance 26-17? 784 00:45:32,216 --> 00:45:35,073 All in favor signify by saying aye. 785 00:45:35,506 --> 00:45:35,554 Aye. 786 00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:38,545 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 787 00:45:38,545 --> 00:45:41,354 The next item on the agenda is Resolution 26-088, 788 00:45:41,354 --> 00:45:44,909 a resolution to authorize submittal of results of request for— 789 00:45:44,909 --> 00:45:49,381 request for proposals and recommendation for contractor to TDEC for Chris Mann 790 00:45:49,381 --> 00:45:49,667 for contractor to TDEC for Chris Mann Brown 791 00:45:49,667 --> 00:45:54,082 Park project and commitment to initiate budget amendment to fund a portion of 792 00:45:54,082 --> 00:45:57,751 construction costs not covered by LPRF grant. Is there a motion? 793 00:45:57,751 --> 00:45:58,815 Motion to approve. 794 00:45:58,815 --> 00:45:59,459 Second. 795 00:45:59,459 --> 00:46:06,047 We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor signify by saying 796 00:46:06,047 --> 00:46:06,389 discussion? All in favor signify by saying aye. 797 00:46:06,696 --> 00:46:06,874 Aye. 798 00:46:07,439 --> 00:46:10,061 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. 799 00:46:10,061 --> 00:46:14,162 That takes us to item 11, which is Resolution 20— uh, 26-090, 800 00:46:14,162 --> 00:46:19,204 a resolution to approve the interlocal agreement between Williamson County, 801 00:46:19,204 --> 00:46:24,716 Tennessee, and the Town of Nolensville for the provision of firefighting Services. 802 00:46:24,716 --> 00:46:28,481 Is there a motion? Motion to approve. Is there a second? 803 00:46:28,481 --> 00:46:29,170 Second. 804 00:46:29,170 --> 00:46:31,530 With a motion and a second, any discussion? 805 00:46:31,530 --> 00:46:34,219 Chief Lopu, I'm so glad you get to come up again. 806 00:46:34,219 --> 00:46:37,238 I feel like we really have to make sure that, that, uh, 807 00:46:37,238 --> 00:46:41,739 apparently Vice Mayor Salamita wanted to make sure you were here to the bitter end 808 00:46:41,739 --> 00:46:42,562 of the meeting. 809 00:46:42,562 --> 00:46:43,035 Yes. 810 00:46:43,035 --> 00:46:47,041 Commissioner Strieper, did you have questions? 811 00:46:47,041 --> 00:46:48,018 Pace has been acceptable. 812 00:46:49,468 --> 00:46:52,710 I already packed my razor, so I didn't get the chance to shave, 813 00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:53,945 so I apologize for that. 814 00:46:53,945 --> 00:46:55,712 So just to be clear, 815 00:46:55,712 --> 00:47:00,043 and I want this to be clear for everyone, Victor, 816 00:47:00,043 --> 00:47:03,931 you said this was just sent to us last week? 817 00:47:03,931 --> 00:47:05,079 Correct. 818 00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:05,773 Relatively soon. 819 00:47:05,886 --> 00:47:10,171 So I think that was— to me, that's the only surprise in this, 820 00:47:10,171 --> 00:47:13,964 is if it does lapse in July, are we not tracking that? 821 00:47:13,964 --> 00:47:16,423 Are we waiting for them to call us? 822 00:47:16,423 --> 00:47:21,270 I just— my concern is, was there a legitimate lapse in cross-service? 823 00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:25,268 It was waiting on them for them to vote on it from their aspect. 824 00:47:25,268 --> 00:47:29,642 It is just a continuation of the exact same agreement we had in place, 825 00:47:29,642 --> 00:47:33,640 and as long as we get it resolved on our end before October 1st, 826 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,076 which would be our next submittal for payment, then, then they're good. 827 00:47:38,076 --> 00:47:39,167 Okay. 828 00:47:39,311 --> 00:47:41,724 I— as we deal with our own short-staffed, 829 00:47:41,724 --> 00:47:45,845 it's even more important and critical to have this agreement in place. 830 00:47:45,845 --> 00:47:50,613 So I just want to make sure we weren't putting ourselves at risk or our residents 831 00:47:50,613 --> 00:47:50,731 putting ourselves at risk or our residents at 832 00:47:50,731 --> 00:47:51,437 risk at all. 833 00:47:51,549 --> 00:47:51,710 So, okay. 834 00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:54,123 So within the original agreement— 835 00:47:54,123 --> 00:47:58,290 so what's on our agenda is the addendum to the agreement, 836 00:47:58,290 --> 00:48:03,481 but in the original agreement there is the provision for $250 per call. 837 00:48:03,835 --> 00:48:04,013 Yes. 838 00:48:04,737 --> 00:48:09,298 For every other agreement we have with Williamson County For example, 839 00:48:09,298 --> 00:48:13,199 animal control and E911 services, they are done per capita. 840 00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:16,173 So the total cost of the service is added up, 841 00:48:16,173 --> 00:48:20,999 and then if there's 17,000 people in Nolensville and there's increases in 842 00:48:20,999 --> 00:48:26,222 population, there's an increase in the amount that we pay to Williamson County. 843 00:48:26,222 --> 00:48:28,602 This agreement is not done that way, 844 00:48:28,602 --> 00:48:33,560 and I do understand that Fairview implemented a similar agreement last year 845 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,022 implemented a similar agreement last year They're 846 00:48:34,022 --> 00:48:36,865 in a similar situation where they have use— 847 00:48:36,865 --> 00:48:41,691 our second station is tied to this agreement and is the Williamson County 848 00:48:41,691 --> 00:48:42,220 agreement and is the Williamson County building 849 00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:46,847 at the corner, kind of the corner of Clovercroft and Nolensville Road. 850 00:48:46,847 --> 00:48:50,351 Um, can we talk a little bit about the $250 per call, 851 00:48:50,351 --> 00:48:55,375 which the updated fire report that came in earlier tonight for the year from 852 00:48:55,375 --> 00:49:00,597 Williamson County for about 21% of our total calls going into Williamson County 853 00:49:00,597 --> 00:49:02,911 Equals out to about $35,000 a year. 854 00:49:02,911 --> 00:49:04,178 It's about 70. 855 00:49:04,178 --> 00:49:06,738 So that report that, um, 856 00:49:06,738 --> 00:49:11,645 for the June 2026 said that their year-to-date 857 00:49:11,645 --> 00:49:13,672 was, uh, 142 calls. 858 00:49:13,672 --> 00:49:18,275 It's a January to December year looking at from that aspect. 859 00:49:18,275 --> 00:49:20,248 Okay, so it is closer to 70. 860 00:49:20,248 --> 00:49:20,601 Yes. 861 00:49:20,601 --> 00:49:23,327 Um, still with an annual operating budget. 862 00:49:23,327 --> 00:49:28,326 And this is no surprise because this is the exact same stuff that I said last 863 00:49:28,326 --> 00:49:28,650 the exact same stuff that I said last time. 864 00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:32,805 I'm going to vote in support of the agreement, so Spoiler alert. 865 00:49:32,805 --> 00:49:38,063 But I think it's valid that we have to make sure that we are negotiating what the 866 00:49:38,063 --> 00:49:43,516 cost per call is and make sure that if the cost that we pay to Williamson County for 867 00:49:43,516 --> 00:49:46,566 other services goes up each year, which it has, 868 00:49:46,566 --> 00:49:50,072 that we're looking at that for this agreement as well. 869 00:49:50,072 --> 00:49:51,824 With the timing of this, I, 870 00:49:51,824 --> 00:49:57,147 I'm just curious what kind of negotiations were included with Williamson County on 871 00:49:57,147 --> 00:49:58,640 the, the cost per call. 872 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,535 And, you know, we're kind of just now getting final reports, 873 00:50:02,535 --> 00:50:06,365 which is normal time frame for us to get final reports for, 874 00:50:06,365 --> 00:50:09,027 for June for looking at full fiscal year. 875 00:50:09,027 --> 00:50:13,960 But how are we evaluating that for the cost of— for the town of Nolensville? 876 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,998 Our intent was to basically continue this into this next year, 877 00:50:17,998 --> 00:50:22,427 and then we would be reevaluating probably early in 2027 to see how— 878 00:50:22,427 --> 00:50:24,837 just have discussion with the county. 879 00:50:24,837 --> 00:50:28,159 So then the next time we up our agreement for July, 880 00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:32,328 that would be where that discussion would come in prior to that. 881 00:50:32,328 --> 00:50:36,627 So by July, hopefully, of 2027, if we had to adjust those numbers, 882 00:50:36,627 --> 00:50:38,711 that's when it would take place. 883 00:50:38,711 --> 00:50:44,503 So the, the adjustment, or the way that the numbers were developed to begin with, 884 00:50:44,503 --> 00:50:47,078 we did them— we looked at it 2 ways. 885 00:50:47,078 --> 00:50:52,798 First of all, we We did an empirical dive into what we think it costs us to make 886 00:50:52,798 --> 00:50:55,015 that run, provide that service. 887 00:50:55,015 --> 00:50:58,304 And we came up with a dollar figure on like a— 888 00:50:58,304 --> 00:51:03,811 on what a call would take if it was an hour-long call or something like that. 889 00:51:03,811 --> 00:51:08,459 And then we turned around and looked at FEMA reimbursement rates. 890 00:51:08,459 --> 00:51:14,251 What if we are working on a project that's Or there's an agreement that FEMA will 891 00:51:14,251 --> 00:51:18,184 reimburse us or a city will reimburse us for the rates. 892 00:51:18,184 --> 00:51:23,118 And what we came out with amazingly is those numbers were very close. 893 00:51:23,118 --> 00:51:28,696 And so this particular number I think reflects the FEMA reimbursement rate for 894 00:51:28,696 --> 00:51:29,053 reflects the FEMA reimbursement rate for that— 895 00:51:29,053 --> 00:51:31,556 for the apparatus that's going out. 896 00:51:31,556 --> 00:51:36,383 So FEMA reimbursement rates are not operational reimbursement rates though. 897 00:51:36,383 --> 00:51:41,017 That to me has been the consistent challenge with the arrangement that I 898 00:51:41,017 --> 00:51:41,661 challenge with the arrangement that I still want 899 00:51:41,661 --> 00:51:44,300 to publicly voice as a long-term concern. 900 00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:48,999 I'm also curious if, because we have 2 neighborhoods that are in our fire 901 00:51:48,999 --> 00:51:49,578 neighborhoods that are in our fire district, 902 00:51:49,578 --> 00:51:52,989 one being Silver Stream and the other being The Farm, 903 00:51:52,989 --> 00:51:57,945 if there's been any review of like— and I don't even know if these are legal, 904 00:51:57,945 --> 00:52:00,327 but like subscription-based services. 905 00:52:00,327 --> 00:52:03,416 I know there are other communities that do that. 906 00:52:03,416 --> 00:52:03,610 Yes. 907 00:52:04,862 --> 00:52:10,981 How have we explored those types of models to ensure that as the demand for services 908 00:52:10,981 --> 00:52:13,823 within the town of Nolensville goes up, 909 00:52:13,823 --> 00:52:19,141 that we are first and foremost serving the town of Nolensville taxpayers? 910 00:52:19,141 --> 00:52:24,240 Last year, the, the tax rate increased to, to cover costs for service, 911 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:29,850 and I think it's important for us to to make sure that we're evaluating that. 912 00:52:29,850 --> 00:52:31,889 This wasn't on our workshop, 913 00:52:31,889 --> 00:52:36,916 so I didn't have the benefit of asking these questions in a workshop, 914 00:52:36,916 --> 00:52:42,963 but I do think it's important for us not to just rubber stamp everything that comes 915 00:52:42,963 --> 00:52:45,731 through and to have those discussions. 916 00:52:45,731 --> 00:52:51,603 Well, I can tell you that we have not evaluated a subscription service piece 917 00:52:51,603 --> 00:52:51,912 evaluated a subscription service piece yet, 918 00:52:51,912 --> 00:52:56,779 but when we set this in place We were looking— we were already, 919 00:52:56,779 --> 00:53:02,883 because of the dynamic that we had with the county in utilizing their building, 920 00:53:02,883 --> 00:53:05,896 we were already making those responses. 921 00:53:05,896 --> 00:53:11,459 We were looking at basically trying to, as far as the service territory, 922 00:53:11,459 --> 00:53:17,640 trying to keep the operations like they were and then get reimbursed for what it 923 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:17,872 were and then get reimbursed for what it was 924 00:53:17,872 --> 00:53:21,271 costing us. And yes, we're using FEMA rates. 925 00:53:21,271 --> 00:53:21,418 Okay. 926 00:53:21,562 --> 00:53:26,348 But those FEMA rates mirrored what our operational costs would be. 927 00:53:26,348 --> 00:53:31,714 No, we haven't put in a 2% add-on for cost of living or something for this 928 00:53:31,714 --> 00:53:35,848 particular year to try to renegotiate that for this year. 929 00:53:35,848 --> 00:53:37,516 But as Chief Lupo said, 930 00:53:37,516 --> 00:53:42,520 it is our intent to do that in the upcoming contract by starting that 931 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:43,462 upcoming contract by starting that dialogue soon 932 00:53:43,462 --> 00:53:46,580 and start— And I think that's a good point. 933 00:53:46,580 --> 00:53:50,859 Seeing what, what changes do we need to make going forward. 934 00:53:51,965 --> 00:53:53,290 And if anything, our, 935 00:53:53,290 --> 00:53:58,020 our numbers running into the county are going to be well under the hour per 936 00:53:58,020 --> 00:54:01,679 call based on the type of the call types we run out there. 937 00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:03,218 It's mainly medical, right? 938 00:54:03,218 --> 00:54:05,815 Yeah, medical, car wrecks, those sorts of things. 939 00:54:05,815 --> 00:54:08,587 I might ask my colleagues if there's any appetite. 940 00:54:08,587 --> 00:54:12,966 I'm aligned with what the mayor said about us ensuring that we're getting We're 941 00:54:12,966 --> 00:54:17,234 protecting the, the treasury of the taxpayers of Nolensville first, foremost, 942 00:54:17,234 --> 00:54:21,447 and always. We also want to be good partners to our neighbors that reside in 943 00:54:21,447 --> 00:54:21,613 partners to our neighbors that reside in the 944 00:54:21,613 --> 00:54:26,158 county. But I believe I heard Chief Lupo say that as long as we get something done 945 00:54:26,158 --> 00:54:30,371 ahead of October 1st, that's when we're going to submit our next bill to the 946 00:54:30,371 --> 00:54:30,759 going to submit our next bill to the county, 947 00:54:30,759 --> 00:54:32,145 we should be okay, right? 948 00:54:32,145 --> 00:54:32,563 Yes. 949 00:54:32,563 --> 00:54:34,174 Well, that being considered, 950 00:54:34,174 --> 00:54:38,775 is there any appetite on this board to perhaps let's table this until we take it 951 00:54:38,775 --> 00:54:38,890 perhaps let's table this until we take it up 952 00:54:38,890 --> 00:54:43,607 at our next work session to give Victor and his team a chance to perhaps come back 953 00:54:43,607 --> 00:54:47,288 with some better numbers, uh, or should we move forward tonight? 954 00:54:47,288 --> 00:54:51,027 I just want to kind of poll everybody, see, does that make sense? 955 00:54:51,027 --> 00:54:54,823 If we've got time to do it, perhaps that's what we're going to do. 956 00:54:54,823 --> 00:54:57,321 I think there's 2 components you have to look at, 957 00:54:57,321 --> 00:54:59,717 and I think what Chief Lupo is saying is valid, 958 00:54:59,717 --> 00:55:02,010 that from the submittal of the reimbursement— 959 00:55:02,010 --> 00:55:06,139 but this interlocal agreement is actually the legal authority we have to serve in 960 00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:09,147 the county. And so in order for us to I'm not the attorney. 961 00:55:09,147 --> 00:55:10,778 Charles, do you want to step in? 962 00:55:10,778 --> 00:55:13,299 Well, you asked me and I said yes. 963 00:55:14,008 --> 00:55:18,630 Uh, yeah, the interlocal agreement should be, uh, put back in effect, I guess. Okay. 964 00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:20,226 It should have been July 1st. 965 00:55:20,226 --> 00:55:21,767 I mean, like, realistically, 966 00:55:21,767 --> 00:55:25,729 we need to not do this a month late because it is the legal authority to 967 00:55:25,729 --> 00:55:26,334 because it is the legal authority to continue to 968 00:55:26,334 --> 00:55:26,664 do it. 969 00:55:27,116 --> 00:55:28,200 It does. 970 00:55:28,297 --> 00:55:31,029 But you could change the time frame. I mean, like, if you— if you— 971 00:55:32,773 --> 00:55:34,586 so to answer your question, no, 972 00:55:34,586 --> 00:55:37,862 I'm ready to move forward with the interlocal agreement. 973 00:55:37,862 --> 00:55:40,494 And we've had this discussion multiple times, 974 00:55:40,494 --> 00:55:44,647 and I can appreciate where you're coming from, and it's the charge-out, 975 00:55:44,647 --> 00:55:48,975 an expense that is covering the operational costs, and I can respect that. 976 00:55:48,975 --> 00:55:51,022 We're going to the call either way. 977 00:55:51,022 --> 00:55:54,590 We are making the support for these calls that are coming in. 978 00:55:54,590 --> 00:55:58,684 Now we have somewhat of a reward, if you will, in being paid the $250. 979 00:55:58,684 --> 00:56:02,077 So to answer your question, no, I'm ready to move forward. 980 00:56:02,077 --> 00:56:06,873 I think prolonging this could potentially get into those fees that we need to bill 981 00:56:06,873 --> 00:56:10,850 out for and an error on our side of not being able to collect those. 982 00:56:10,850 --> 00:56:15,471 And so my answer would be ready to move forward and give a yes to move forward. 983 00:56:15,471 --> 00:56:18,235 So to the Vice Mayor's point, 984 00:56:18,235 --> 00:56:22,713 what leverage do we have to actually negotiate? 985 00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:29,003 Because My understanding is that, like Silver Streams for example, 986 00:56:29,003 --> 00:56:34,911 if we don't have an agreement, who responds if there's a fire? 987 00:56:34,911 --> 00:56:38,053 Most likely we're still going to get called out, right? 988 00:56:38,053 --> 00:56:41,183 So I understand the, the mayor's point. 989 00:56:41,183 --> 00:56:47,844 I actually think we should look into and get a better rate if, if that is possible. 990 00:56:47,844 --> 00:56:52,338 And so my genuine question is, what leverage do we have? 991 00:56:52,338 --> 00:56:56,431 Because it seems like We're responsible regardless, 992 00:56:56,431 --> 00:57:02,690 and having the agreement just simply gets us a little bit of, um, not revenue, 993 00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:04,536 but something for that. 994 00:57:04,536 --> 00:57:09,148 County's been very cooperative working with us on this, and they've, you know, 995 00:57:09,148 --> 00:57:13,760 from the very beginning they've said they're open to renegotiating and looking 996 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:13,878 they're open to renegotiating and looking at 997 00:57:13,878 --> 00:57:15,888 these numbers again in the future. 998 00:57:15,888 --> 00:57:18,786 Um, this— to answer for the subscription service, 999 00:57:18,786 --> 00:57:23,220 the problem with that is it would still leave county residents without fire 1000 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:28,187 protection, which would then leverage the county to reopen the volunteer station up, 1001 00:57:28,187 --> 00:57:30,670 which would then relocate us out of there, 1002 00:57:30,670 --> 00:57:34,277 which would have an effect on our ISO by losing that station. 1003 00:57:34,277 --> 00:57:38,889 So there's logistical stuff with that tracking who is a subscriber, who isn't. 1004 00:57:38,889 --> 00:57:41,845 So I would, I'd be opposed to that in my last day. 1005 00:57:41,845 --> 00:57:45,595 Good. I choked up. Because it's your last day. 1006 00:57:45,595 --> 00:57:52,363 Um, okay, so I do think there's, there's value in getting— it's not time, you know, 1007 00:57:52,363 --> 00:57:55,542 pressing, but getting some kind of, uh, 1008 00:57:55,542 --> 00:58:01,494 evaluation or a staff report or something that can help us understand if, 1009 00:58:01,494 --> 00:58:04,919 if we need to negotiate for a higher rate. 1010 00:58:04,919 --> 00:58:08,995 Like the mayor said, before, before July 1st date. 1011 00:58:08,995 --> 00:58:14,295 Um, I mean, I would like to see it much sooner than later, but I, 1012 00:58:14,295 --> 00:58:20,247 I would like to see something like that. I think it's worth looking into. 1013 00:58:20,247 --> 00:58:25,546 We're looking into other fees and, and whatnot, and so, you know, 1014 00:58:25,546 --> 00:58:32,232 staff can do with that as they may unless the board also feels strongly about that 1015 00:58:32,232 --> 00:58:32,884 as well. 1016 00:58:33,304 --> 00:58:33,353 But— 1017 00:58:33,353 --> 00:58:37,947 I think one of the things that we could do, uh, Commissioner Carpenter, 1018 00:58:37,947 --> 00:58:41,442 is take a look at the data that Uh, for the runs, the, 1019 00:58:41,442 --> 00:58:46,230 the 142 calls that have been since January, I think, take a look at those. 1020 00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:49,789 Uh, they do have the, the time in, time out, time back. 1021 00:58:49,789 --> 00:58:49,902 Yes. 1022 00:58:49,902 --> 00:58:53,748 So we would know how much time are we spending on those calls. 1023 00:58:53,748 --> 00:58:58,649 And then we can take a look at those individually and then collectively to say, 1024 00:58:58,649 --> 00:59:02,061 okay, well, did that call cost us $250 that we got for? 1025 00:59:02,061 --> 00:59:06,590 Uh, so at the end of the, at the end of that 6-month period, Are we good? 1026 00:59:06,590 --> 00:59:08,327 Are we under? You know, and, 1027 00:59:08,327 --> 00:59:12,918 and that will dictate whether or not it has covered our operational costs. 1028 00:59:12,918 --> 00:59:17,152 And as I understand it, just correct me if I am way off here, 1029 00:59:17,152 --> 00:59:18,749 but as I understand it, 1030 00:59:18,749 --> 00:59:23,260 all calls that we've made out to county have not been met with a, 1031 00:59:23,260 --> 00:59:28,397 a call that we have not been able to serve our residents. Is that correct? 1032 00:59:28,397 --> 00:59:32,244 Correct. We, we Most are definitely medical and car wrecks. 1033 00:59:32,244 --> 00:59:36,352 Most of our calls out in the county are a single unit response, 1034 00:59:36,352 --> 00:59:40,134 so most of our duplicates or overlapping calls after that, 1035 00:59:40,134 --> 00:59:42,938 we still have a unit available in the town. 1036 00:59:42,938 --> 00:59:43,601 Thank you. 1037 00:59:46,203 --> 00:59:49,563 And it's always the secondary unit that responds, is that correct? 1038 00:59:49,563 --> 00:59:50,591 Yeah, I think the only— 1039 00:59:51,105 --> 00:59:51,266 we— 1040 00:59:51,266 --> 00:59:55,026 I think we've had one incident which was an actual structure fire where we had to— 1041 00:59:55,026 --> 00:59:56,081 we sent, uh, Arrington, 1042 00:59:56,081 --> 00:59:59,061 I believe we had to call for mutual aid for Arrington to respond. 1043 00:59:59,061 --> 01:00:00,712 But we would have went to that fire. 1044 01:00:00,712 --> 01:00:04,242 We would have been called for mutual aid to that fire whether we were in this 1045 01:00:04,242 --> 01:00:05,022 agreement or not. 1046 01:00:05,459 --> 01:00:08,793 Was that that brush fire, or was it— it was— 1047 01:00:08,793 --> 01:00:12,884 there was one that was in the town that was not in the 1048 01:00:12,884 --> 01:00:14,732 mutualized area. 1049 01:00:17,732 --> 01:00:21,847 I will support the reevaluation of our negotiated rate. 1050 01:00:21,847 --> 01:00:24,690 I think that's a good idea to look at. 1051 01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:29,777 what it truly does cost us operationally to roll out to these calls. 1052 01:00:29,777 --> 01:00:33,891 Um, but I do think we, we need this agreement in place. 1053 01:00:33,891 --> 01:00:39,802 It's, it's vital for our service of our residents and even those that are maybe 1054 01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:40,101 residents and even those that are maybe just 1055 01:00:40,101 --> 01:00:43,991 outside our town boundary. Um, that's where I stand. 1056 01:00:43,991 --> 01:00:47,489 So this agreement's for a 1-year extension, I believe, 1057 01:00:47,489 --> 01:00:52,153 in the original interlocal agreement, which is not what's on the agenda. 1058 01:00:52,153 --> 01:00:56,558 There was a provision that said that if there was any renegotiation, 1059 01:00:56,558 --> 01:00:58,696 you had to give 6 months' notice. 1060 01:00:58,696 --> 01:01:03,813 So I think, Commissioner Gill, to your point, I support what you're saying, but 1061 01:01:03,813 --> 01:01:03,943 point, I support what you're saying, but I, 1062 01:01:03,943 --> 01:01:08,672 I think for a lot of reasons, uh, it should move forward with the 1 year. 1063 01:01:08,672 --> 01:01:10,162 We said this last year. 1064 01:01:10,162 --> 01:01:13,206 I really don't— Commissioner Struford, I think, 1065 01:01:13,206 --> 01:01:16,640 said it well at the beginning of discussion for this. 1066 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,850 That we've got to be on the front end of it, not on the back end. 1067 01:01:20,850 --> 01:01:25,514 And, um, I understand that it's an interlocal agreement with the county, 1068 01:01:25,514 --> 01:01:30,826 but because it's the legal foundation for us responding into the county as primary 1069 01:01:30,826 --> 01:01:36,073 response, I wish we were more proactive in how we got these on the agenda and had 1070 01:01:36,073 --> 01:01:41,385 them voted on, especially given that when the draft agenda came out on Thursday It 1071 01:01:41,385 --> 01:01:44,300 wasn't on there. I actually did not see this. 1072 01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:48,317 I had reviewed the agenda, I think on Tuesday, did not see it. 1073 01:01:48,317 --> 01:01:53,045 And then thankfully went through it again today is when I, when I saw it. 1074 01:01:53,045 --> 01:01:54,600 So when these get added, 1075 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,199 I think that communication is really important so that everybody can be 1076 01:01:59,199 --> 01:01:59,782 important so that everybody can be informed, 1077 01:01:59,782 --> 01:02:04,835 because I imagine the rest of the board would have liked to have read the full 1078 01:02:04,835 --> 01:02:08,981 interlocal agreement, not just the, um, the addendum. Thank you. 1079 01:02:09,928 --> 01:02:15,603 Can I ask before we move on, uh, Victor, when can you have something for us? 1080 01:02:15,603 --> 01:02:21,055 So you mentioned that you could look at time and, and costs and all that. 1081 01:02:21,055 --> 01:02:24,042 When can you have a staff report for us? 1082 01:02:24,042 --> 01:02:27,935 I'm gonna have to look first, see how complex the data is. 1083 01:02:27,935 --> 01:02:33,438 Um, my goal would try to be have something at your work session Um, but I haven't— 1084 01:02:33,438 --> 01:02:38,740 not looking at the data and understanding what all is going to have to be, how, 1085 01:02:38,740 --> 01:02:44,043 how difficult it is to get the information that we think we need, um, it might— 1086 01:02:44,043 --> 01:02:48,204 I would say worst case it would be the following work session, 1087 01:02:48,204 --> 01:02:53,573 but our goal would be to try to get you something by the work session so you all 1088 01:02:53,573 --> 01:02:53,774 something by the work session so you all can 1089 01:02:53,774 --> 01:02:55,251 have that information. 1090 01:02:55,251 --> 01:02:57,858 Thank you. I— thank you. 1091 01:02:57,858 --> 01:03:01,443 Okay, any other questions or discussion for 1092 01:03:01,443 --> 01:03:05,528 Resolution 26-090? All in favor signify by saying 1093 01:03:05,528 --> 01:03:05,861 aye. 1094 01:03:05,861 --> 01:03:06,349 Aye. 1095 01:03:06,349 --> 01:03:10,290 All opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Thank you, Chief Lupo. 1096 01:03:10,290 --> 01:03:13,913 I am sorry to give you a hard time right at the very end. 1097 01:03:13,913 --> 01:03:18,097 Wouldn't have it any other way. 1098 01:03:18,097 --> 01:03:21,147 All right, that takes us to reports and comments from commissioners. 1099 01:03:21,147 --> 01:03:24,268 School's about to start. 1100 01:03:24,268 --> 01:03:28,820 That's a, that's a good Good thing, 1101 01:03:28,820 --> 01:03:30,120 bad thing. 1102 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,779 Here comes the traffic. 1103 01:03:31,779 --> 01:03:37,334 Well, yeah. We did receive the staff report for sewer service and the urban 1104 01:03:37,334 --> 01:03:37,779 report for sewer service and the urban growth 1105 01:03:37,779 --> 01:03:42,149 boundary, and it was excellent, very helpful to understand. 1106 01:03:42,149 --> 01:03:45,111 That 1997 interlocal agreement with, um, 1107 01:03:45,111 --> 01:03:50,741 with Metro did indicate that we were supposed to be working proactively with 1108 01:03:50,741 --> 01:03:51,111 supposed to be working proactively with Metro 1109 01:03:51,111 --> 01:03:56,666 for sewer. I think there's a real opportunity for the town to better engage 1110 01:03:56,666 --> 01:03:56,962 opportunity for the town to better engage with 1111 01:03:56,962 --> 01:04:00,592 Metro to have an understanding of sewer capacity. 1112 01:04:00,592 --> 01:04:06,591 The report that listed out the projected capacity— and I don't remember the date, 1113 01:04:06,591 --> 01:04:10,072 the year stamp on that report— um, was helpful. 1114 01:04:10,072 --> 01:04:15,924 And I think especially with annexation requests and understanding future growth 1115 01:04:15,924 --> 01:04:16,072 requests and understanding future growth we 1116 01:04:16,072 --> 01:04:20,294 have a responsibility as a board to be planning for that, 1117 01:04:20,294 --> 01:04:23,849 and sewer capacity is an integral piece of that. 1118 01:04:23,849 --> 01:04:29,256 And I would love to see us more proactively interact with Metro Sewer and 1119 01:04:29,256 --> 01:04:29,997 proactively interact with Metro Sewer and would like 1120 01:04:29,997 --> 01:04:35,256 to hear more from the board but also staff on ways to make that happen. 1121 01:04:35,256 --> 01:04:38,737 I also think that should be happening with, um, 1122 01:04:38,737 --> 01:04:41,700 Nolensville College Grove Water Utility, 1123 01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:46,292 and I've heard other members of this board share that as well. 1124 01:04:46,292 --> 01:04:51,477 I received feedback from a citizen earlier this week related to water, 1125 01:04:51,477 --> 01:04:56,588 and while I know we have no authority over either of those utilities, 1126 01:04:56,588 --> 01:05:02,217 that interlocal agreement that was brought forward related to sewer service— 1127 01:05:02,217 --> 01:05:08,290 Metro was agreeing to work with us when they took over sewer service in this area. 1128 01:05:08,290 --> 01:05:12,883 So I would love to hear more, not necessarily tonight, But it, 1129 01:05:12,883 --> 01:05:15,475 when appropriate about those areas. 1130 01:05:15,475 --> 01:05:19,771 And if you have stuff to share tonight, I'm happy to talk. 1131 01:05:19,771 --> 01:05:21,845 I'll just make this one comment. 1132 01:05:21,845 --> 01:05:26,251 When, when we were looking at the new revised urban growth boundary, 1133 01:05:26,251 --> 01:05:28,843 we reached out both to Metro and to, uh, 1134 01:05:28,843 --> 01:05:34,157 Nolensville College Grove before we even brought to you all the scope of the urban 1135 01:05:34,157 --> 01:05:39,406 growth boundary and said, okay, we, you know, we're looking at our planning area, 1136 01:05:39,406 --> 01:05:41,090 the potential growth area. 1137 01:05:41,090 --> 01:05:44,979 What's, what's your, Intents, what is your ability to serve? 1138 01:05:44,979 --> 01:05:49,320 And at the time we had received information that, yes, we will have 1139 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:49,903 information that, yes, we will have capacity. 1140 01:05:49,903 --> 01:05:53,079 You know, we can serve that area. We can do that. 1141 01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:58,068 Now, Metro had said at that point that they wouldn't go beyond the Ridgeline, 1142 01:05:58,068 --> 01:06:02,216 but as far as everything that was in that current UGB, you know, 1143 01:06:02,216 --> 01:06:04,678 they would have the capacity to serve. 1144 01:06:04,678 --> 01:06:04,790 Okay. 1145 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:10,762 Um, so, and, and we've heard something similar from, um, 1146 01:06:10,762 --> 01:06:14,696 Nolensville College Grove Utility District. 1147 01:06:14,696 --> 01:06:20,550 So we haven't been— we haven't been devoid of, of conversations. 1148 01:06:20,550 --> 01:06:20,841 Mm-hmm. 1149 01:06:20,841 --> 01:06:27,025 But I do think that the whole issue of, um, that has come about with the, uh, 1150 01:06:27,025 --> 01:06:33,370 us being surprised that they did have a capacity issue in their trunk main will 1151 01:06:33,370 --> 01:06:39,634 create the ongoing conversations of, you know, what your model will look like, 1152 01:06:39,634 --> 01:06:45,336 where are we. Here's— every time that we would do a growth plan update, 1153 01:06:45,336 --> 01:06:50,958 we'll probably be having those conversations with them about what does 1154 01:06:50,958 --> 01:06:51,681 conversations with them about what does that look 1155 01:06:51,681 --> 01:06:54,090 like in their systems as well. 1156 01:06:54,090 --> 01:06:55,347 Go ahead. 1157 01:06:56,707 --> 01:07:01,697 I think it would be immensely valuable if we got them to sit down with us as a 1158 01:07:01,697 --> 01:07:04,384 board, whoever that may be at Metro Water, 1159 01:07:04,384 --> 01:07:09,118 to talk about strategically what they're looking at, what their goals are, 1160 01:07:09,118 --> 01:07:13,276 how that fits in with what we're seeing boots on the ground here, 1161 01:07:13,276 --> 01:07:16,539 whether that's Enoch making that connection or you. 1162 01:07:16,539 --> 01:07:21,720 I think it's immensely important for us to understand timeline for the trunk line 1163 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:22,488 replacement. 1164 01:07:22,488 --> 01:07:22,585 Okay. 1165 01:07:22,670 --> 01:07:25,612 replacement they are working on, what that looks like, 1166 01:07:25,612 --> 01:07:29,479 how far they really truly do intend to go when it is all said and done. 1167 01:07:29,479 --> 01:07:33,837 I think that would be great for them and us to have a work session and really go 1168 01:07:33,837 --> 01:07:34,545 through that. 1169 01:07:34,545 --> 01:07:37,208 Okay. 1170 01:07:37,208 --> 01:07:42,657 I have got a question regarding the sewer document that was sent out. 1171 01:07:42,657 --> 01:07:46,606 Under the section that was most interesting to me, 1172 01:07:46,606 --> 01:07:51,108 and I think the thing that we are really focused on here, 1173 01:07:51,108 --> 01:07:57,742 The section of waste disposal regulations outside the town limits of Nolensville but 1174 01:07:57,742 --> 01:08:01,612 within the UGB and outside of the drainage basin. 1175 01:08:01,612 --> 01:08:08,088 Um, you mentioned that staff has asked the county multiple times for a copy of the 1176 01:08:08,088 --> 01:08:12,826 policy that they claim says that we, we have the ability to, 1177 01:08:12,826 --> 01:08:17,486 to give property owners the right to For alternative sewer. 1178 01:08:17,486 --> 01:08:19,697 Um, have you heard anything? 1179 01:08:19,697 --> 01:08:24,594 I know this recently came to us, but when can you expect that? 1180 01:08:24,594 --> 01:08:30,154 Yes, I, I have heard something, and that's not yet a written policy. 1181 01:08:30,154 --> 01:08:34,325 Uh, it is a— it is the way that they are operating, 1182 01:08:34,325 --> 01:08:37,841 but it has not yet been officially adopted. 1183 01:08:37,841 --> 01:08:45,676 So does that mean that Officially, we don't have the authority to allow— 1184 01:08:45,676 --> 01:08:50,428 Well, it just means for them, it gives them the— 1185 01:08:50,428 --> 01:08:56,764 it basically says that they would be able to grant us— well, no, 1186 01:08:56,764 --> 01:09:04,783 that's where we would be trying to work toward is for them to be able to grant us 1187 01:09:04,783 --> 01:09:07,654 authority or grant authority. 1188 01:09:07,654 --> 01:09:15,277 Let them grant the authority for an alternative system within the UGB outside 1189 01:09:15,277 --> 01:09:15,475 alternative system within the UGB outside of 1190 01:09:15,475 --> 01:09:18,940 Metro system. Um, they're, they're— 1191 01:09:18,940 --> 01:09:26,662 the policy that they're enforcing right now is that they're not allowing them, 1192 01:09:26,662 --> 01:09:32,701 period, if it's in the UGB. But that's not written right now. 1193 01:09:33,238 --> 01:09:39,021 But the thing that follows that statement is a statement that the county's 1194 01:09:39,021 --> 01:09:44,492 planning staff has indicated that language modifying the policy— okay, 1195 01:09:44,492 --> 01:09:48,868 I see. They could consider modifying it if we decide to. 1196 01:09:48,868 --> 01:09:50,666 Okay, that makes sense. 1197 01:09:50,666 --> 01:09:54,588 And they are very interested in modifying that policy if indeed we are. 1198 01:09:54,796 --> 01:09:55,038 Okay. 1199 01:09:56,002 --> 01:09:57,994 They've been very candid about that. 1200 01:09:57,994 --> 01:10:02,198 Uh, you know, when I talked to their planning staff, they, they thought that 1201 01:10:02,198 --> 01:10:02,364 planning staff, they, they thought that it— 1202 01:10:02,364 --> 01:10:05,020 that the original one had already been codified. 1203 01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:09,225 But when they went back, I went back through their stuff, I couldn't find it 1204 01:10:09,225 --> 01:10:09,612 through their stuff, I couldn't find it online. 1205 01:10:09,612 --> 01:10:13,872 And then they called me back later in the afternoon and said, oh, guess what, 1206 01:10:13,872 --> 01:10:17,634 it's not been officially adopted, but here's, here's where we're at. 1207 01:10:17,634 --> 01:10:18,634 Okay. 1208 01:10:21,634 --> 01:10:25,435 Do we serve the Jenkins Farm for fire? 1209 01:10:28,435 --> 01:10:29,292 Yes. 1210 01:10:29,292 --> 01:10:31,944 So this report that came out is not on our agenda, 1211 01:10:31,944 --> 01:10:35,975 but I do think it bears additional discussion and would like it to be on our 1212 01:10:35,975 --> 01:10:36,188 discussion and would like it to be on our next 1213 01:10:36,188 --> 01:10:36,665 workshop. 1214 01:10:36,665 --> 01:10:38,618 Yeah. 1215 01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:44,761 Is there anything else that you all would like to see 1216 01:10:44,761 --> 01:10:50,101 addressed or evaluated inside that particular That 1217 01:10:50,101 --> 01:10:50,742 topic. 1218 01:10:50,742 --> 01:10:55,693 I, I would like it to be distilled to the point of like, 1219 01:10:55,693 --> 01:11:01,264 these are our options should we choose to go down that road of— 1220 01:11:01,264 --> 01:11:07,895 because I think this helps a lot to really understand what the options are, 1221 01:11:07,895 --> 01:11:11,432 especially when we're talking about, um, 1222 01:11:11,432 --> 01:11:18,328 restricting a property that is outside of our town I think it would be helpful 1223 01:11:18,328 --> 01:11:24,606 to know what the possible policy tracks that we could go down would be. 1224 01:11:24,606 --> 01:11:27,436 Okay. 1225 01:11:27,436 --> 01:11:29,194 Do you want me to do anything? 1226 01:11:29,194 --> 01:11:31,887 I think I understand. I'll have some offline commentary— 1227 01:11:31,887 --> 01:11:32,484 Sure. 1228 01:11:32,484 --> 01:11:36,097 Chat with you and just make sure I've got in mind what you're looking for. 1229 01:11:36,097 --> 01:11:37,244 Okay. 1230 01:11:37,244 --> 01:11:41,256 Was the planning report from Metro something that we already had in our 1231 01:11:41,256 --> 01:11:41,595 something that we already had in our files, 1232 01:11:41,595 --> 01:11:44,816 or did we go get that from Metro to generate this report? 1233 01:11:44,816 --> 01:11:49,074 Um, Enoch was able to find that. 1234 01:11:52,074 --> 01:11:55,067 Um, I found it in a box that Don had in the closet. 1235 01:11:55,067 --> 01:11:58,705 I mean, I called Metro 2 or 3 times, tried to get information. 1236 01:11:58,705 --> 01:12:00,231 They didn't have anything. 1237 01:12:00,231 --> 01:12:03,459 So I went and dug through the closet upstairs Joel had, 1238 01:12:03,459 --> 01:12:06,745 and I found that in the bottom of the box, just a sewer. 1239 01:12:06,745 --> 01:12:08,447 So I scanned it, sent it out. 1240 01:12:10,170 --> 01:12:14,249 So do we— presumably Metro creates these reports for other areas. 1241 01:12:14,249 --> 01:12:19,458 Do we think that they've not restudied the Nolensville Basin since 1997, or do you— 1242 01:12:19,458 --> 01:12:24,102 is it possible— I understand they haven't been willingly giving it to you, 1243 01:12:24,102 --> 01:12:29,311 but they did sign an interlocal agreement saying that they would cooperate with the 1244 01:12:29,311 --> 01:12:32,700 town of Nolensville, albeit in 1997, related to sewer. 1245 01:12:32,700 --> 01:12:37,532 Um, when they determined that the trunk line was functioning at 80% capacity? 1246 01:12:37,532 --> 01:12:40,482 There must have been some studies. Can, can we— 1247 01:12:40,482 --> 01:12:45,684 I think what they did was redo their modeling, uh, and had, uh, 1248 01:12:45,684 --> 01:12:51,630 it was my understanding that they were going through systematically, uh, 1249 01:12:51,630 --> 01:12:58,236 taking a look at their sewer models and that they were in the process of redoing 1250 01:12:58,236 --> 01:12:58,402 that they were in the process of redoing it 1251 01:12:58,402 --> 01:13:05,090 when they discovered via the model that they were much higher capacity than what, 1252 01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:11,862 uh, what they thought. Um, I don't know that they've done a full basin, uh, study. 1253 01:13:11,862 --> 01:13:16,156 That's certainly something that we can inquire, but— 1254 01:13:16,156 --> 01:13:20,784 Yeah, I've talked to Metro 2 or 3 times, and they've had a lot of people retire. 1255 01:13:20,784 --> 01:13:23,502 Cyrus Tucci's retired, Mike Marshall's retired. 1256 01:13:23,502 --> 01:13:27,725 Um, I've been talking to Steve I know a lot of the folks that work there. 1257 01:13:27,725 --> 01:13:30,617 I don't talk to Scott Potter much, their director, 1258 01:13:30,617 --> 01:13:34,146 because he's not really been involved with the basin studies. 1259 01:13:34,146 --> 01:13:38,369 But they really started studying this when Farrington and Beezer came in, 1260 01:13:38,369 --> 01:13:42,765 when they had to upgrade the Kidd Road system. They put an 18-inch line down 1261 01:13:42,765 --> 01:13:43,054 system. They put an 18-inch line down Kidd. 1262 01:13:43,054 --> 01:13:47,161 They took out 5 lift stations that served a lot of the Stonebrook area. 1263 01:13:47,161 --> 01:13:50,747 That's what triggered them to really start studying that area. 1264 01:13:50,747 --> 01:13:55,028 Well, they determined about a year and a half ago that It was at capacity. 1265 01:13:55,028 --> 01:13:59,598 Uh, so they have issued a purchase order to Garney Construction to upgrade that 1266 01:13:59,598 --> 01:13:59,887 line. 1267 01:14:01,188 --> 01:14:01,942 They've ordered pipe. 1268 01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:04,624 I think they've got some delays on getting pipe. 1269 01:14:04,624 --> 01:14:08,521 I don't have a— when today they're going to start digging through town, 1270 01:14:08,521 --> 01:14:11,210 but they're moving forward with it now, you know. 1271 01:14:11,210 --> 01:14:12,747 But they have studied— like, 1272 01:14:12,747 --> 01:14:17,193 one of the things that came up with the county dealing with Mike Madison when the 1273 01:14:17,193 --> 01:14:18,400 farm came in You know, 1274 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,846 Metro's saying they should not have been able to put in an alternate system there 1275 01:14:22,846 --> 01:14:25,809 without the county's approval, without their approval. 1276 01:14:25,809 --> 01:14:29,926 The county said, we didn't know nothing about it, we just did it, you know. 1277 01:14:29,926 --> 01:14:31,353 Uh, so that kind of thing. 1278 01:14:31,353 --> 01:14:33,219 The Metro says, you know, they've— 1279 01:14:33,219 --> 01:14:35,963 the county wasn't forthright with them about that. 1280 01:14:35,963 --> 01:14:38,652 They should have asked, got their approval first, 1281 01:14:38,652 --> 01:14:41,506 because that's part of that agreement. But, um, but— 1282 01:14:41,506 --> 01:14:43,289 And I think there's other county agreements. 1283 01:14:43,289 --> 01:14:44,910 And the county had signed the agreement. 1284 01:14:44,910 --> 01:14:47,474 They had the agreement too, but nobody looked at it. 1285 01:14:47,474 --> 01:14:49,053 It was a long time ago, I guess. 1286 01:14:49,053 --> 01:14:51,716 But, uh, that's one thing that the county said to him, 1287 01:14:51,716 --> 01:14:54,773 and Mike Madison and Victor's talked to him as well, is, yeah, 1288 01:14:54,773 --> 01:14:56,401 we don't have an official policy, 1289 01:14:56,401 --> 01:14:59,212 but anything in the urban growth boundary of Nolensville, 1290 01:14:59,212 --> 01:15:01,086 whether it's subdivisions or anything, 1291 01:15:01,086 --> 01:15:04,834 we want the town's thoughts on it because they're going to annex it someday. 1292 01:15:04,834 --> 01:15:07,398 We want to make— meet their policies. kind of thing. 1293 01:15:07,398 --> 01:15:09,469 Whether they have to or not, I don't know, 1294 01:15:09,469 --> 01:15:13,119 but that's sort of where they are right now in their operating procedures. 1295 01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:17,064 Whether it's in their ordinances or not, that's the way they want to look at it. 1296 01:15:17,064 --> 01:15:23,726 I have comments, but I think, I think we'll— I'll save mine for the work 1297 01:15:23,726 --> 01:15:24,466 we'll— I'll save mine for the work session. 1298 01:15:24,466 --> 01:15:27,221 Okay. 1299 01:15:28,462 --> 01:15:31,910 Any other reports and comments from commissioners? 1300 01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:34,600 The only other item I'd really like to, 1301 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:39,910 to discuss some time frames with is the update to the zoning ordinance that's 1302 01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:40,255 update to the zoning ordinance that's still 1303 01:15:40,255 --> 01:15:42,117 in the Planning Commission. 1304 01:15:42,117 --> 01:15:47,083 That's something that's been in process for a little while now, and, uh, 1305 01:15:47,083 --> 01:15:52,324 I don't know if Brad has any— I didn't give you a heads up or anything about 1306 01:15:52,324 --> 01:15:52,669 give you a heads up or anything about that. 1307 01:15:52,669 --> 01:15:54,784 That's okay. That's all right. 1308 01:15:54,784 --> 01:15:57,603 Um, Planning Commission is next Tuesday, 1309 01:15:57,603 --> 01:16:02,820 and We've sent out to the Planning Commission members for their agenda the 1310 01:16:02,820 --> 01:16:03,384 Commission members for their agenda the draft of 1311 01:16:03,384 --> 01:16:08,107 Article 8. So we mentioned, I think it's been maybe a year ago now, 1312 01:16:08,107 --> 01:16:13,323 that I sat probably right here and mentioned that this process is going to 1313 01:16:13,323 --> 01:16:13,746 mentioned that this process is going to take a 1314 01:16:13,746 --> 01:16:17,059 long time. And we are beginning Article 8 of 9. 1315 01:16:17,059 --> 01:16:22,769 Um, 4 and 8 were always going to be The rough ones, the, the very difficult ones. 1316 01:16:22,769 --> 01:16:28,127 So 8 is because there's a relatively lighter agenda for Planning Commission. 1317 01:16:28,127 --> 01:16:33,978 We wanted to go ahead and get that on that agenda for Planning Commission to take a 1318 01:16:33,978 --> 01:16:37,502 look at it and provide any comments that they had. 1319 01:16:37,502 --> 01:16:43,423 I imagine that 8 is going to need a second Planning Commission discussion coming off 1320 01:16:43,423 --> 01:16:45,961 that. We've looked at it internally, 1321 01:16:45,961 --> 01:16:51,319 but I think we would like continue to look at it internally, but due to, uh, 1322 01:16:51,319 --> 01:16:56,676 you know, the nature of knowing the timing and, you know, we went ahead and, 1323 01:16:56,676 --> 01:17:00,342 and got that for, for Planning Commission to review. 1324 01:17:00,342 --> 01:17:04,571 So we are hoping that maybe this month and next month for 8, 1325 01:17:04,571 --> 01:17:07,814 9 could potentially be kind of wrapped up, um, 1326 01:17:07,814 --> 01:17:10,915 as a part of putting them all back together. 1327 01:17:10,915 --> 01:17:15,850 So, you know, as we mentioned, we've been on We've been doing this— I, 1328 01:17:15,850 --> 01:17:18,952 I looked at it, I think it was maybe August, 1329 01:17:18,952 --> 01:17:24,732 maybe July of last year where our initial Planning Commission Article 1 discussion 1330 01:17:24,732 --> 01:17:28,186 was. So it puts us so close enough, um, you know, 1331 01:17:28,186 --> 01:17:31,006 then we got to put it all back together. 1332 01:17:31,006 --> 01:17:35,165 We've looked at 1, we've looked at 2, but like I mentioned, 1333 01:17:35,165 --> 01:17:38,619 it's been months and months since we looked at 1. 1334 01:17:38,619 --> 01:17:44,329 Are we still using the same terminology? Now we got to push it all back together. 1335 01:17:44,329 --> 01:17:49,968 So I'm imagining that's maybe a couple months as well at the Planning Commission 1336 01:17:49,968 --> 01:17:55,044 level, hopefully, hopefully sooner, and then ultimately up to the board. 1337 01:17:55,044 --> 01:17:56,806 Did that answer anything? 1338 01:17:56,855 --> 01:18:03,294 Okay. So Article 8 for August and September, presumably Article 9 in 1339 01:18:03,294 --> 01:18:04,051 September, presumably Article 9 in October. 1340 01:18:04,051 --> 01:18:10,684 9 is definitions, so definitions could almost be handled kind of as we look at it 1341 01:18:10,684 --> 01:18:15,678 all back together. So it could potentially be 1 through 9 is, 1342 01:18:15,678 --> 01:18:18,053 is looked at that in October. 1343 01:18:18,214 --> 01:18:18,440 Yeah. 1344 01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:22,895 Okay. And then as part of that review process, um, 1345 01:18:22,895 --> 01:18:27,529 Commissioner Strufert brought it up earlier tonight, 1346 01:18:27,529 --> 01:18:34,390 and I agree with him that the hamlet zone that was in the zoning ordinance is 1347 01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:36,618 a little bit challenging. 1348 01:18:36,618 --> 01:18:43,390 And has there been discussion at the Planning Commission or with staff about 1349 01:18:43,390 --> 01:18:49,894 how the Hamlet Zone gets modified and/or something similar to a PD or PUD 1350 01:18:49,894 --> 01:18:52,211 like there was previously? 1351 01:18:52,211 --> 01:18:53,909 There has been discussion. 1352 01:18:53,909 --> 01:18:59,135 And spoiler, you know, I think Article 8, or on this upcoming Tuesday's meeting, 1353 01:18:59,135 --> 01:19:01,747 I would assume may go around that a lot. 1354 01:19:01,747 --> 01:19:06,058 Um, couldn't— I don't know what, what we'll ultimately talk about. 1355 01:19:06,058 --> 01:19:09,390 It's— I think just Article 8 is 109 pages as it is, 1356 01:19:09,390 --> 01:19:11,676 so with red lines it's much longer. 1357 01:19:11,676 --> 01:19:15,072 Um, so it's— I mean, that's just that portion of it. 1358 01:19:15,072 --> 01:19:18,534 Um, you know, we didn't really— I'm trying to recall. 1359 01:19:18,534 --> 01:19:20,037 I think with Article 4, 1360 01:19:20,037 --> 01:19:25,001 which is where the zoning bulk standards for the zoning districts are in the 1361 01:19:25,001 --> 01:19:25,458 for the zoning districts are in the current 1362 01:19:25,458 --> 01:19:29,508 ordinance, we didn't, we didn't adjust much of that CH and RH, 1363 01:19:29,508 --> 01:19:31,533 which are the hamlet districts. 1364 01:19:31,533 --> 01:19:33,427 But as we've gone through it, 1365 01:19:33,427 --> 01:19:38,195 there's been increased discussion and interest in what do PUDs look like. 1366 01:19:38,195 --> 01:19:43,029 Is there a process in which that we can facilitate that and, and that the, 1367 01:19:43,029 --> 01:19:46,033 the board is ultimately comfortable with them, 1368 01:19:46,033 --> 01:19:51,455 whether if it's a modification of standard approach as other municipalities utilize 1369 01:19:51,455 --> 01:19:56,419 that Um, where you're either doing a development by right and you kind of do 1370 01:19:56,419 --> 01:19:56,680 development by right and you kind of do this 1371 01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:01,383 process, or if you're asking for any modifications to standard and, and, 1372 01:20:01,383 --> 01:20:04,910 and you very clearly are asking for them individually. 1373 01:20:04,910 --> 01:20:08,437 That's one of the questions that has come up, and, uh, 1374 01:20:08,437 --> 01:20:11,442 staff has written a little bit that, you know, 1375 01:20:11,442 --> 01:20:14,773 brought that into some of the changes in Article 8, 1376 01:20:14,773 --> 01:20:16,994 and we'll get feedback on Tuesday. 1377 01:20:16,994 --> 01:20:19,940 Thank you. I appreciate that. All right. 1378 01:20:19,940 --> 01:20:23,622 Any other reports and comments from commissioners? 1379 01:20:23,622 --> 01:20:26,372 Mayor, if I just may take a personal moment. 1380 01:20:26,372 --> 01:20:30,309 Um, I shared with the vice mayor before we got started tonight. 1381 01:20:30,309 --> 01:20:34,558 I'll need to share it with the chief of police, if that's all right. 1382 01:20:34,558 --> 01:20:37,370 Chief Armour, as of 3 o'clock this afternoon, 1383 01:20:37,370 --> 01:20:40,057 there's another Gil on the highway driving. 1384 01:20:40,057 --> 01:20:43,495 My 16-year-old son got the perfect score, we were told, 1385 01:20:43,495 --> 01:20:45,432 at the driver's testing center. 1386 01:20:45,432 --> 01:20:49,619 He takes after his mother, obviously, when it comes to test-taking, 1387 01:20:49,619 --> 01:20:54,243 but I'm afraid he may take after his father when it comes to having a lead 1388 01:20:54,243 --> 01:20:54,556 father when it comes to having a lead foot. 1389 01:20:54,556 --> 01:20:59,555 So nonetheless, congratulations to my son Taylor on getting his driver's license 1390 01:20:59,555 --> 01:20:59,930 today. 1391 01:20:59,930 --> 01:21:03,599 Congratulations, Commissioner Gill. 1392 01:21:03,599 --> 01:21:08,107 All right, is there any other comments or a 1393 01:21:08,107 --> 01:21:09,994 motion to adjourn? 1394 01:21:09,994 --> 01:21:11,414 Second. 1395 01:21:11,414 --> 01:21:13,434 All in favor of adjournment signify by saying aye. Aye. 1396 01:21:13,531 --> 01:21:13,757 All opposed? 1397 01:21:13,838 --> 01:21:15,018 Motion passes unanimously.