[0:03] It is 6:32 on August 6th, 2026.
[0:04] We will call to order the Board of
Commissioners regularly scheduled meeting.
[0:08] With all 5 commissioners here, we do have
a quorum.
[0:11] The first item on the agenda is our
prayer,
[0:13] and I would like to invite Pastor Squires
from Nolensville First United Methodist.
[0:18] Would you bow your heads as I pray?
[0:20] Dear wise, loving, and gracious God, known
by many names and beyond all names,
[0:24] First, let me say thank you on behalf of
all who have gathered here tonight.
[0:28] Thank you for the many abundant blessings.
[0:31] Thank you for life itself,
[0:32] for the measure of health we need to
fulfill our callings, for sustenance,
[0:36] and for friendship. We ask your blessings
on the people who have been called to lead
[0:41] the community in which we live and work
and play.
[0:44] Give them personal peace in their lives
and joy in their task.
[0:47] Bless our agenda for this evening to be
fruitful and for the common good.
[0:51] Grant that our mayor and board of
commissioners have ears to listen to the
[0:55] commissioners have ears to listen to the
people
[0:56] they serve and the wisdom to act for
justice.
[0:58] Help them as leaders to not ask first, how
do we fix this,
[1:01] but what do we need to learn? How might we
need to change?
[1:05] And to whom do we need to listen?
[1:06] Remind them, because we all forget from
time to time,
[1:09] especially in the noisiness of what passes
for political debate and dialogue today,
[1:14] especially during a campaign season,
[1:16] that they're not only leaders but also
servants.
[1:19] And it is their responsibility and ours to
serve the common good for all.
[1:23] Remind them that no matter where we live,
everyone is our neighbor.
[1:27] Remind us all of that fact as well, and
that throughout the ages,
[1:30] prophets have called the leaders of the
people to respect and protect the least of
[1:35] those among us: our children, the elderly,
the poor, those who are hungry,
[1:39] those who have no homes, those who are ill
in body, mind, or spirit,
[1:43] the strangers in our midst, those who live
on the margins, and those who are alone.
[1:47] And those who are forgotten.
[1:49] Graciously grant us tonight your guidance
as we begin this meeting,
[1:53] and grant them and us the wisdom and
courage to know and do what is right and
[1:57] courage to know and do what is right and
good
[1:57] and true, and the best path when there are
several.
[2:00] Help us now engage in meaningful
discussion.
[2:02] Allow us to grow closer as a group and
nurture the bonds of community and the
[2:07] ability to work together in harmony, even
when there is honest disagreement.
[2:11] May they and we speak out when it's time
to speak out.
[2:14] And listen patiently and receptively when
it's time to listen.
[2:18] May they and we always be guided by the
spirit of the community,
[2:21] by the spirit of justice, and most of all,
by the spirit of love.
[2:25] This we pray in the name of all that we
hold sacred and holy, all that we hold
[2:29] hold sacred and holy, all that we hold
good,
[2:29] right, and true. It is in your blessed
name, for which me is found in Jesus.
[2:34] May it be so for all of us. And everyone
who'd like to said—
[2:37] Amen.
[2:38] Amen.
[2:40] Thank you. Please join me in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
[2:42] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[2:49] United States of America and to the
republic
[2:50] for which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible,
[2:55] with liberty and justice for all.
[3:06] The next item on the agenda is approval of
the agenda. Is there a motion?
[3:09] Motion to approve.
[3:10] Second.
[3:11] Any discussion for the agenda? All in
favor of the agenda signify by saying aye.
[3:16] Aye.
[3:16] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[3:18] The next item on the agenda is approval of
the minutes for the regular meeting
[3:22] for July 6th, 2026. Is there a motion?
[3:24] Motion to approve.
[3:26] Second.
[3:27] We have a motion to approve by
Commissioner Gill and a second by
[3:31] Commissioner Gill and a second by
Commissioner
[3:32] Carpenter. Any discussion on the minutes
for July 6th?
[3:35] There is a scrivener's error for
Resolution 26-044 with the motion being
[3:40] Resolution 26-044 with the motion being
made by
[3:40] Vice Mayor Salamita,
[3:42] but we've been advised that that's not
something that has to be changed in the
[3:47] minutes by a motion to amend. It's just—
since it's just a scrivener's error.
[3:51] Any other discussion for the minutes for
July 6th?
[3:55] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[3:57] Aye.
[3:57] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[4:00] The next item on the agenda is approval of
the minutes for the public hearing
[4:04] of July 6th, 2026. Is there a motion?
[4:06] Motion to approve.
[4:08] We have a motion to approve by
Commissioner Struford and a little bit of
[4:12] Commissioner Struford and a little bit of
a
[4:12] live stream going on down by Commissioner
Gill,
[4:15] but I have yet to hear a second.
[4:16] Second.
[4:17] Second by Vice Mayor Salamita.
[4:19] Any discussion for the public hearing for
July 6th?
[4:23] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[4:26] Aye.
[4:27] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[4:29] The next item on the agenda is our pinning
ceremony for Engineer Nick Thompson.
[4:33] I'd like to invite Chief Lupo up.
[4:34] Ready?
[4:42] Okay.
[4:43] All right, get my notes here. One more
time for our pinning ceremony here.
[4:49] Um, we'll add the—
[4:51] change it up a little bit from, from my
usual speech, but, uh, In the service,
[4:55] the badge represents more than just a
position or a rank to us.
[4:59] It symbolizes the trust, the duty,
[5:01] and the sacrifice and commitment we have
to serve our community and other people
[5:05] here. This ceremony also recognizes the
support of family and friends and
[5:10] support of family and friends and
colleagues
[5:10] as well, and the mentors who have worked
with,
[5:13] with him through over his years of service
here to help make this achievement
[5:17] possible. So we're going to have, um, New
Nick.
[5:20] New Nick.
[5:22] We've got multiple Nicks now, so we got
New Nick.
[5:26] He comes to us from Manchester,
[5:28] who quickly returned the favor and
challenged us to the ice bucket challenge,
[5:34] so we had to perform that for them. 9
years of total service in the fire
[5:39] years of total service in the fire
service.
[5:39] He has pretty much achieved his
requirements shortly before we hired him
[5:44] requirements shortly before we hired him
to be an
[5:45] engineer, so he came straight into us as
an engineer.
[5:49] Uh, on A shift and, uh, hopefully be
serving here for a while.
[5:53] So we'll go ahead and bring you up.
[5:56] Uh, he'll be getting pinned by his mother,
Kim, today. Make sure—
[6:00] I get sticky?
[6:02] Do you want to step back a little bit
further towards the
[6:08] bench so you can get a good picture?
[6:11] There's your mother's pills.
[6:14] I'm doing my best not to poke the kid.
[6:20] Once it's through the first hole, you just
let it hang.
[6:27] It'll be good.
[6:28] It's not fitting
[6:36] in.
[6:38] Thank you,
[6:43] Chief,
[6:46] and
[6:48] congratulations
[6:56] to Engineer Nick
[7:04] Thompson.
[7:09] Our next item on
[7:18] the agenda is
[7:25] citizen
[7:28] comments,
[7:33] and we have
[7:39] Cheryl Hughes
[7:46] signed up for
[7:53] citizen
[7:57] comments.
[8:01] And Ms.
[8:05] Hughes,
[8:09] if you don't
[8:15] mind pulling the
[8:24] microphone up.
[8:31] Yeah.
[8:34] Hello, I'm Cheryl Hughes, 1752 and 1790
Burke Hollow Road.
[8:39] I have some comments about the Van Slyke
annexation request.
[8:43] The back of the property runs to Burke
Hollow Road. I grew up in Burke Hollow.
[8:49] I went 4 hours away to college and I have
lived away,
[8:53] but I've always spent time at home as my
parents lived out their lives there.
[8:59] Our mother was the last to pass 2 years
ago,
[9:03] so it's me and my siblings and 225 acres
and 3 parcels in question.
[9:08] One parcel is elsewhere.
[9:10] And we aren't selling any of it because
Burke Hollow is lovely,
[9:14] but it's easy to remain in a place I have
a history with.
[9:19] The Burke Hollow area has been zoned RD-5
since at least the late '80s.
[9:24] It didn't just revert to RD-5 with that
2020 County Commission vote like other
[9:30] unincorporated areas such as Bethesda or
College Grove,
[9:34] which were zoned 1 or 2 acres per unit
prior.
[9:38] The 2012 county zoning document described
Burke Hollow as the area east of I-65 and
[9:44] Leiper's Fork west of 65 as the 2 areas
reserved to preserve and encourage rural
[9:50] reserved to preserve and encourage rural
and
[9:50] agricultural pursuits. I chose to stay.
[9:53] In contrast, the people who have moved
into Burke Hollow in the last 30 years
[9:59] into Burke Hollow in the last 30 years
chose
[9:59] a rural area over a subdivision or being
inside the city limits.
[10:04] Thank you.
[10:06] They chose no sidewalks, municipal fire
department, fire hydrants,
[10:10] streetlights outside the perimeter of
pizza delivery,
[10:14] and 15 to 20 minutes to the nearest
grocery or restaurants.
[10:18] The flip side is that we get to enjoy
daily the unspoiled hills and pastures,
[10:24] hawks screaming overhead, owls hooting at
night, elbow room and space.
[10:29] Little noise and less traffic. Kids
skateboard on the road.
[10:33] People jog, walk dogs, ride horses.
[10:36] We have streams of cyclists because they
get a workout on the hills,
[10:40] and motorcyclists love the winding curves.
[10:43] People hunt and trap, practice target
shooting as we're in the county,
[10:48] so gunfire is common. Farming is still
going on.
[10:52] So these people chose a rural way of life.
[10:55] If they had wanted to live in a
high-density area,
[10:58] they could have chosen Ballinger Farms
with homes on a quarter acre,
[11:03] McFarland Woods half-acre lots, or
Barrington's one-acre lots on Highway 96.
[11:09] And all of those things I listed that
Hollow— that the Hollow is without.
[11:14] Each of us in the Hollow have chosen rural
living as our quality of life,
[11:19] and we have a right to maintain that
quality of life.
[11:23] Thank you.
[11:24] that we as property owners have invested
so much money, time,
[11:28] and effort in creating. We don't want
development encroaching on our way of
[11:33] development encroaching on our way of
life.
[11:33] So for all of these reasons,
[11:35] I'm opposed to a subdivision that runs
onto Burke Hollow Road.
[11:39] Thank you for your time and for your
service to the town.
[11:43] Thank you. Anyone else for citizen
comments that did not have the opportunity
[11:48] comments that did not have the opportunity
to
[11:48] sign up? The next item on the agenda is an
announcement and report from our town
[11:54] manager.
[11:54] The first thing that we need to look at
with regard to this is the,
[11:59] the Resolution 260-90.
[12:01] It was a resolution to,
[12:03] to basically renew the interlocal
agreement between Williamson County and
[12:08] agreement between Williamson County and
Town of
[12:09] Nolensville for the firefighting services
that we provide.
[12:13] It's basically a reimbursement for the
firefighting services that we provide.
[12:19] They sent that to us last week and said,
oh, we need to get this renewed.
[12:24] So that's why it was not on your work
session agenda.
[12:28] It actually did expire at the end of— or
right at the beginning of July.
[12:34] So, um, this is something that We need to
move—
[12:37] if you all are still okay with the
agreement that we developed with the
[12:43] agreement that we developed with the
county.
[12:43] So this is something that we would need to
renew, put back in place.
[12:49] And basically what it does is gives us a
reimbursement every time our trucks roll
[12:55] and go into the county.
[12:56] Where would you like to move it to the
agenda?
[12:59] You can move it in even as the last item
of the agenda if you want to.
[13:04] That's not a problem with me.
[13:06] We just—
[13:07] it's just something that we need to
address.
[13:08] So you want it under new but 11?
[13:14] Yeah, you could put it as 11.
[13:16] Okay, motion to move, uh,
[13:19] Resolution 26-090 to now be part of new
[13:23] business item 11.
[13:25] Second.
[13:26] Any discussion on the motion to move
Resolution
[13:30] 26-090? All in favor of the motion signify
by saying
[13:35] aye.
[13:35] Aye.
[13:36] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[13:38] Second thing that I wanted to address
tonight is, um, we just saw our,
[13:43] our chief do a pinning ceremony, and, and
tonight is our chief's last hours with us.
[13:50] Uh, today was his last official day,
[13:53] and he has taken a job as chief up in I've
forgotten the county name, uh, the, uh,
[13:59] um, Reno Township. Exactly, in Michigan,
uh, back going— being able to go back
[14:05] uh, back going— being able to go back
home.
[14:05] And, uh, and I think just as we heard the
last speaker made a choice to go back
[14:11] home, that's always a great thing when,
when someone's able to do that.
[14:17] And, uh, so congratulations on being able
to To get back to your, your home area.
[14:23] Uh, when Matthew joined us in, I think,
2021, spring of 2021, um,
[14:28] we didn't know him that well.
[14:31] David knew him, I guess, a little bit,
but, but he had, uh,
[14:35] he came with great credentials.
[14:38] And while he was with us,
[14:39] Matthew completed his master's degree and
then also executive fire school.
[14:45] Is that a fire officer school? Uh, with
us.
[14:49] Yeah.
[14:49] And has just excelled.
[14:51] And he was our first fire marshal,
[14:54] did an outstanding job in setting up that
program,
[14:59] and has done very well as our chief after
David left.
[15:04] And so he's definitely going to be missed.
[15:08] But Matthew, just want to say thank you so
much for all the contributions
[15:15] you have made to the town of Nolensville.
[15:19] And you can probably just come on up here
because we're going to get a
[15:26] picture with you on your last, your last
night.
[15:30] Oh, she loves this.
[15:32] Well, you put that resolution at the very
end so I'm here the whole time.
[15:36] There was a reason.
[16:01] All right, I'll go first and then Katie
can
[16:06] do hers, even though ladies should go
first.
[16:12] Ready? 1, 2, 3.
[16:15] Perfect.
[16:16] 1, 2, 3.
[16:20] Okay, thank you.
[16:44] I would add to that announcement that we
have asked Captain Weingart to kind of
[16:49] have asked Captain Weingart to kind of
step
[16:50] up and be our interim chief as we go
through the process of selecting the new
[16:55] through the process of selecting the new
chief.
[16:55] So we'll have Adam as the one that we will
be reaching out to to work through things
[17:01] on the day-to-day basis. He'll still And
have to command his shift and what all.
[17:07] So it's, uh, it's, it's, it's big double
duty, but, uh,
[17:10] they have kind of spread the workload out
so that it's not overwhelming.
[17:15] Hopefully won't be overwhelming on him
alone.
[17:19] Uh, uh, we sure would appreciate that
administrative assistant sooner than
[17:24] administrative assistant sooner than
later.
[17:24] Um, so anyway, uh, we're looking forward
to a, a good process.
[17:28] Kelly has already been reaching out to
MTAS to get that process put into place.
[17:34] And I think— did we get that advertised
this morning?
[17:38] So the position's posted tomorrow. So, um,
anyway, so congratulations, Matthew.
[17:43] Congratulations, and thank you, Adam, as
well.
[17:48] That's all I've got.
[17:48] Thank you, Victor. The next item on the
agenda is our report from the town
[17:54] agenda is our report from the town
attorney.
[17:57] The impact fee oral argument was held
yesterday.
[18:01] We should expect a ruling sometime in the
next 3 to 9 months,
[18:05] hopefully on the shorter side of that.
[18:09] And the Lamar billboard argument in trial
court is set for August 11th.
[18:14] Okay. The next item on the agenda is our
consent agenda.
[18:18] Before we vote on the consent agenda,
[18:20] I do want to note that the fire department
report will be updated on the agenda
[18:26] because the report that is there is not
actually the report.
[18:30] I guess I should have asked this before we
started.
[18:33] Does that need to be pulled from the
consent agenda and considered separately
[18:38] consent agenda and considered separately
since
[18:39] it has to be updated?
[18:40] Okay, so we'll pull the fire department
report from the consent agenda.
[18:45] Is there a motion for the consent agenda
minus the fire department report?
[18:50] So moved.
[18:51] Second.
[18:52] All in favor of the consent agenda signify
by saying aye.
[18:55] Aye.
[18:55] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[18:58] So Matthew sent an updated fire department
report, um, just before,
[19:03] just before the meeting.
[19:04] It is the standard report,
[19:06] but there was just an error with December
numbers on the previous one,
[19:11] and then I think it said April as the
subject line.
[19:14] So does anyone have any questions on the
updated fire department report?
[19:19] All in favor of the fire department report
signify by saying aye.
[19:23] Aye.
[19:24] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[19:27] The next item on the agenda is unfinished
business.
[19:31] Item 1, second reading of Ordinance 26-09,
[19:34] an ordinance amending the zoning map of
Nolensville,
[19:38] Tennessee to rezone properties referenced
as Map 058, Parcel 08400, Map 059,
[19:44] Parcel 07100, and Map 059,
[19:47] Parcel 07101 in the Williamson County tax
maps from Municipal Growth Area—
[19:52] Municipal Area District 1, MGA-1, to Rural
Character District CD-2,
[19:58] Williams property. Is there a motion?
[20:01] Second.
[20:03] We have a motion and a second. Any
discussion for second reading of Ordinance
[20:08] discussion for second reading of Ordinance
26-09?
[20:09] This item has been discussed at length, so
I don't want to belabor the point,
[20:14] but this particular property I think is
important to at least have some discussion
[20:20] with the vote in that it is a key property
in Nolensville's urban growth boundary
[20:26] that has been a planned future area for
literally decades.
[20:30] With the east-west connector, that's a
future major thoroughfare.
[20:34] There's a piece of this property from
Nolensville Road at Williams to
[20:39] Nolensville Road at Williams to
Clovercroft at
[20:40] Williams that would be a significant piece
of that east-west connector for the
[20:45] portion that passes through Nolensville,
not to mention future,
[20:50] future commercial area that would be
expected to be part of this.
[20:54] While this annexation really is a
one-to-one annexation from what is zoned
[21:00] one-to-one annexation from what is zoned
in the
[21:00] county. The prep— what precipitated this,
to my knowledge,
[21:04] was action by Williamson County to
petition the legislature to no longer give
[21:09] petition the legislature to no longer give
us the
[21:10] authority to annex things that were in the
urban growth boundary without approval
[21:16] from Williamson County.
[21:17] So the town did not go looking to annex
this piece of property or the other one
[21:23] that's on the agenda, but we have to
consider what is before us.
[21:27] And so I'm still in favor of annexation.
[21:30] Thank you.
[21:31] But do think there should be some
information shared as part of the vote.
[21:35] Any other discussion for second reading of
Ordinance 26-09?
[21:38] I'll just make a quick comment here. I am
not opposed to this annexation.
[21:43] I think given the history we have with
this property,
[21:46] I think it's important for us to realize
that when we start down this path,
[21:51] we are now responsible for Williams Road
as a part of the transportation plan and
[21:56] what that means. And so that is something
we,
[21:58] we currently and future boards will need
to consider when we talk about budgeting
[22:03] for road improvements, widening,
expansions, things like that.
[22:08] So any other discussion for Ordinance
26-09?
[22:12] Mayor, I appreciate your commentary as
well as that of Commissioner Struford,
[22:17] and we have discussed this at length at
several public meetings, More recently,
[22:21] of course, at our workshop leading up to
this month's voting meeting.
[22:25] But I think what you said was on target.
[22:27] It bears referencing, if not repeating the
entire dialogue,
[22:31] because this is a significant part of
Nolensville's plans for decades now.
[22:35] It is in our urban growth boundary that's
just right there on the cusp of our,
[22:40] of our present corporate boundaries.
[22:42] And yeah, the, the county put us all in a
kind of On notice last year when they
[22:46] decided to unilaterally move forward with
trying to get our legislature to change
[22:51] the state statute that would have
withdrawn from our body the ability to
[22:55] withdrawn from our body the ability to
annex
[22:56] properties without consent of the county.
[22:58] So this is a necessary move for a host of
reasons,
[23:01] and that's being one of them for sure.
[23:03] And I appreciate the mayor for pointing
that out.
[23:06] I believe we ought to move forward tonight
and do, do what we've already discussed,
[23:11] but I think the public visiting with us
tonight,
[23:14] as well as might be joining us by
livestream,
[23:16] deserve to hear exactly what we've
discussed in the past and just reference
[23:21] discussed in the past and just reference
those
[23:21] conversations.
[23:22] Thank you. Any other discussion for
Ordinance 26-09?
[23:26] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[23:30] Aye.
[23:31] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[23:34] The next item is Resolution 26-044,
[23:36] a resolution annexing certain territory
upon written consent of the owners and to
[23:42] incorporate the same within the boundaries
of the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee.
[23:48] Tax Map 058, Parcel 08400, also referenced
as 7421 Nolensville Road, Nolensville,
[23:54] Tennessee 37135. Tax Map 059, Parcel
07100,
[23:57] also referenced as 7427 Nolensville Road,
Nolensville, Tennessee 37135.
[24:03] And Tax Map 059, Parcel 07101, also
referenced as 0 Williams Road,
[24:07] referenced as 0 Williams Road,
Nolensville,
[24:08] Tennessee 37135. Second.
[24:10] Williams.
[24:11] Is there a motion?
[24:12] Motion to approve.
[24:13] Second.
[24:14] We have a motion and a second.
[24:15] Any discussion for this resolution that is
also paired with the ordinance that we
[24:20] just discussed? All in favor of the
resolution signify by saying aye.
[24:24] Aye.
[24:25] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[24:28] The next item on the agenda is second
reading of Ordinance 26-10,
[24:32] an ordinance amending the zoning map of
Nolensville,
[24:36] Tennessee to rezone properties referenced
as Map 083, Parcel 00500 Map 083,
[24:41] Parcel 00501, Map 083, Parcel 00600, and
Map 058,
[24:45] Parcel 11300 in the Williamson County tax
maps from Municipal Growth Area District
[24:51] 1, MGA-1, to Rural Character District
CD-2, Vance Lake. Is there a motion?
[24:56] Motion to approve.
[24:57] Second.
[24:58] We have a motion and a second from
Commissioner Carpenter.
[25:01] Any discussion for second reading of
Ordinance 26-10?
[25:08] Mayor and Commissioners,
[25:09] we've had this discussion again in
similarity to the Williams property.
[25:13] I think what's important, and this does
apply to the Williams property as well,
[25:18] is we do need to look a little bit deeper
at the zoning to allow a little bit more
[25:22] flexibility. I know we're in the process
of that right now,
[25:25] but I think it's important for us to
consider some additional flexibility to
[25:29] consider some additional flexibility to
allow
[25:30] the town to get a product that they want
as well as the developers who are part of
[25:34] this process to get what they want as
well.
[25:36] So a couple comments about the Vance-Lyke
property.
[25:40] When we started, these 2 annexations came
together but started about a month apart.
[25:45] I have expressed support previously of
continuous annexation.
[25:50] The Vance-Lyke property is continuous— is
contiguous Outside.
[25:54] I think I said continuous the first time
too. I meant to say contiguous.
[25:59] I have expressed support of contiguous
annexation that does not unnecessarily
[26:04] increase density just for the sake of
increasing density.
[26:08] There have been annexation requests that
the board, including myself,
[26:12] have voted against. With the Van Slyke
property, there's been several challenges,
[26:18] one of which is, is how far south it goes.
[26:21] I think the challenge for the town of
Nolensville and the services that we
[26:26] Nolensville and the services that we
provide
[26:26] is an interlocal agreement that we will
consider at the end of this agenda.
[26:31] And it's something where we provide fire
service to unincorporated Williamson
[26:37] service to unincorporated Williamson
County
[26:37] down to our urban growth boundary.
[26:39] That's not an exact mark of the line, but
down Birkhollow,
[26:43] we actually provide fire service even
though the people that live on Birkhollow
[26:49] though the people that live on Birkhollow
do
[26:49] not pay taxes.
[26:50] Okay.
[26:50] to the Town of Nolensville.
[26:52] It's the same for Silverstream, and it's
also the same south to,
[26:57] to the Vance Lake property.
[26:59] And so I think that presents an
interesting conundrum for the town,
[27:04] because if we're providing services
without the corresponding way that we pay
[27:09] without the corresponding way that we pay
for
[27:10] those services, that, that's an issue.
[27:12] If these annexations were increasing
density outside of what it was already
[27:18] density outside of what it was already
zoned in
[27:18] Williamson County, I would have concern
for that.
[27:22] But this falls into the same category for
me as the Williams annexation.
[27:27] I think it's unfortunate that the town is,
[27:30] is being tasked to annex close to 600
acres tonight.
[27:34] I mean, this is quite possibly the most
total acreage of annexations that the town
[27:40] has done in any one night that I'm aware
of,
[27:43] certainly in the last almost 6 years that
I've I've been on the board.
[27:49] But it still is a fact that if we're going
to continue to have to service these
[27:54] areas for fire service, it makes sense for
us to annex in our urban growth boundary,
[28:01] especially when those annexations are
essentially a one-for-one for, um,
[28:06] what could be developed in, in the county.
[28:09] One other thing is that this property does
not have sewer capacity.
[28:14] Neither does the Williams property.
[28:16] So just because there's an annexation does
not mean that there will be development
[28:22] anytime soon because we don't have sewer
capacity from Metro.
[28:27] So I am still in support of the annexation
of the Vance Lake property,
[28:32] which as of the last ordinance is now a
contiguous annexation within Nolensville's
[28:38] municipal boundaries. Any other
discussion?
[28:41] All in favor of second reading of
Ordinance 26-10, signify by saying aye.
[28:47] Aye.
[28:48] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[28:51] The next item is Resolution 26-045,
[28:54] a resolution annexing certain territory
upon written consent of the owners and to
[29:00] incorporate the same within the boundaries
of the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee.
[29:06] Tax Map 058, Parcel 11300, also referenced
as 7473 Nolensville Road, Nolensville,
[29:13] Tennessee 37135. Tax Map 083, Parcel
00501,
[29:16] also referenced as 7509 Nolensville Road,
Nolensville, Tennessee 37135.
[29:22] Tax Map 083, Parcel 00500, and Tax Map
083, Parcel 00600,
[29:26] also referenced as 7511 Nolensville Road,
Nolensville, Tennessee 37135. Van Slyke.
[29:33] Is there a motion?
[29:34] Motion to approve.
[29:35] Second.
[29:37] We have a motion and a second.
[29:39] Any discussion on Resolution 26-045,
[29:42] which does pair with Ordinance 26-11?
[29:45] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[29:48] Aye.
[29:48] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[29:51] The next item on the agenda is new
business, Resolution 26-086,
[29:55] a resolution granting a certificate of
compliance to Tipsy Cow Wine and Spirits
[30:00] compliance to Tipsy Cow Wine and Spirits
LLC
[30:00] for a retail Package Liquor Store at 7344
Nolensville Road, Suite 302,
[30:05] in Nolensville, Tennessee. Is there a
motion?
[30:07] Motion to approve.
[30:09] And a second.
[30:11] We have a motion and a second by
Commissioner Gill. Any discussion?
[30:17] I'd just like to say the board does not
pick the names.
[30:21] We, you know, businesses pick, pick their
own names.
[30:25] Any other discussion for Resolution 26-08?
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[30:31] Aye.
[30:32] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[30:34] First reading of Ordinance 26-15, an
ordinance of the Town of Nolensville,
[30:38] Tennessee, amending plan review,
permitting,
[30:41] and inspection fees contained in Appendix
B of the Town of Nolensville Municipal
[30:45] Code. Is there a motion? Motion to
approve. Is there a second?
[30:48] Second.
[30:49] Any discussion? Chuck, did you have
anything to add, or just for questions?
[30:55] Just as a point of interest on this
ordinance on first reading,
[31:00] we will be presenting some further
amendment to you at the upcoming work
[31:06] amendment to you at the upcoming work
session.
[31:06] So keep an open perspective on that.
[31:09] We're doing our best to streamline fees as
we implement our online portal system.
[31:15] And so there was another thought to
consolidate and simplify our fee
[31:20] consolidate and simplify our fee
structure.
[31:21] Yes.
[31:21] as they relate to plumbing permits.
[31:23] So we'll be coming back to you all with
some adjustments in that in a future time.
[31:27] Thank you. Any other discussion? All in
favor signify by saying aye.
[31:33] Aye.
[31:33] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[31:37] The next item on the agenda is first
reading of Ordinance 26-14,
[31:43] an ordinance amending the zoning map of
Nolensville,
[31:47] Tennessee to rezone property referenced as
Tax Map 033, Parcel 10400 in Um,
[31:54] in the Williamson County tax maps from
Municipal Growth Area District 1, MGA-1,
[32:01] to neighbor— to Neighborhood Character
District CD-3, Traver Ringman.
[32:07] Is there a motion? Ordinance fails for
lack of a motion.
[32:12] Is that the correct terminology?
[32:16] Okay.
[32:17] The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-077,
[32:20] a resolution calling for a public hearing
on the proposed annexation of territory
[32:25] into the Town of Nolensville by owner
consent and approving a plan of services.
[32:30] Tennessee Tax Map 033, Parcel 10400, also
referenced as 0 Kidd Road, Nolensville,
[32:35] Tennessee 37135, Tarver Ringman. Is there
a motion?
[32:38] So moved.
[32:42] Resolution fails for lack of a motion.
[32:44] The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-078,
[32:48] a resolution to amend the terms of the
Nolensville Buttercup Festival Committee.
[32:53] Is there a motion?
[32:54] Motion to approve.
[32:55] Is there a second?
[32:57] Second.
[32:58] That was kind of a tie.
[33:00] He can have it.
[33:01] Uh, second by Commissioner Struford.
[33:05] Any discussion on Resolution 26-078?
[33:09] So I did contact all of the current
members
[33:15] on the committee.
[33:17] They all expressed interest in staying on
the committee,
[33:20] and they did think that the dates that you
all chose will be—
[33:23] make sure that they can plan a successful
event.
[33:25] Thank you, Montique.
[33:27] Any other discussion for Resolution
26-078?
[33:32] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[33:35] Aye.
[33:36] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[33:38] Item 6, Resolution 26-082,
[33:40] a resolution authorizing purchase of a
vehicle through Tennessee Statewide
[33:45] vehicle through Tennessee Statewide
Contract
[33:45] for Fire and Rescue. Is there a motion?
[33:47] Motion to approve.
[33:48] Second.
[33:49] It's yours.
[33:51] Motion and a second by Commissioner Gill.
[33:55] That's—
[33:55] we have a lot of ties tonight.
[33:57] I'm telling you.
[34:02] And Victor is wearing a tie. That is, that
is true.
[34:05] So is Captain Weingarten.
[34:06] This is a serious event.
[34:09] Listen, this could be the chief's last
time. Does that mean we give him a hard
[34:14] time. Does that mean we give him a hard
time?
[34:14] I'm just here for questions if you have
any questions.
[34:17] Do you want to share anything?
[34:20] Who do you think you are? Leaving us now.
[34:24] I'm just following Chuck's example up
here.
[34:27] Just standing, standing waiting.
[34:31] Okay.
[34:32] All right. Any discussion on Resolution
26-082?
[34:34] Oh, Chuck said—
[34:35] did you have a question?
[34:36] No.
[34:37] So just to clarify here, sorry, the plan
is to purchase the truck,
[34:42] then outfit with equipment?
[34:44] Yes.
[34:44] Correct.
[34:45] Okay.
[34:45] Thank you.
[34:46] And I think it bears repeating.
[34:48] Of course, the funding for this is coming
from fire impact fees.
[34:53] Thank you.
[34:54] Any other burning questions for Chief
Lupo?
[34:59] Oh, I see what you did there. Burning
questions. I see.
[35:02] Like, it's not as good as Victor's dad
jokes, but I'm trying.
[35:04] I don't know, Mayor, you used conundrum
earlier tonight. I'm— I was impressed.
[35:08] I mean, you used ameliorate last week.
[35:12] And we— before we got underway,
[35:13] the vice mayor and I discussed the meaning
of the term eleemosynary.
[35:18] That's a new one.
[35:19] Anyway, I guess we ought to vote now.
[35:21] All right, all in favor of Resolution
26-082 signify by saying aye.
[35:28] Aye.
[35:28] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
The next— thank you, Chief Lupo.
[35:32] The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-084,
[35:34] a resolution expressing support for the
development of a pavilion on the Greystone
[35:38] Park property in partnership with Friends
of Nolensville Parks.
[35:42] Motion to approve.
[35:42] Second.
[35:43] We have a motion to approve by
Commissioner Carpenter. Was there another
[35:47] Commissioner Carpenter. Was there another
tie?
[35:47] No.
[35:48] And a second by Commissioner Gill. Any
discussion for Resolution 26-084?
[35:53] Can I just ask for confirmation?
[35:56] Um, so I know that Victor— there was a
question raised about the pad,
[36:00] and so I know pricing came to all of us
about the cost of the pad.
[36:04] One of the questions I had asked was,
[36:07] is that something that you all are hopeful
to Correct.
[36:10] And I just wanted to confirm that that was
an actual—
[36:14] You are using the word hopeful. Would you
like to specify?
[36:18] When we had talked about it, it seemed
like there was slight confusion over the
[36:22] like there was slight confusion over the
pad,
[36:22] so I just wanted to confirm that the
question—
[36:25] It is my understanding that we will be
funding it.
[36:27] Perfect. Thank you.
[36:28] That is all I wanted.
[36:28] Can I get the pricing information that
y'all got? I also got some.
[36:31] We can exchange notes.
[36:32] I think it was sent today.
[36:33] Oh, okay.
[36:34] Great.
[36:35] We can exchange notes.
[36:36] I will forward you the email that I sent.
[36:38] Thank you.
[36:40] All right, any other discussion for
Resolution 26-084?
[36:43] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[36:46] Aye.
[36:46] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[36:50] The next item is Resolution 26-087,
[36:53] a resolution to approve TDOT Statewide
Partnership Program Agreement contract
[36:59] Partnership Program Agreement contract
number
[37:00] 260105 for Nolensville Road Widening
Project, PIN 133919.00.
[37:05] US 31A, US 41A, State Route 11. Is there a
motion?
[37:09] Motion to approve.
[37:10] Second.
[37:11] We have a motion and a second. Any
discussion for Resolution 26-087?
[37:16] I just think somebody needs to talk about
the significance of what this is.
[37:23] The Nolensville Road— does anybody else
want to go into it? I mean, I can.
[37:31] No, Haley.
[37:34] Um, you know, Commissioner Carpenter
really likes it when I repeat the same
[37:38] really likes it when I repeat the same
things
[37:39] over and over again,
[37:40] so I'll start off by saying I'm most
likely to get yelled at over Nolensville
[37:45] likely to get yelled at over Nolensville
Road.
[37:45] And actually, during the election,
[37:47] I had a woman walk up to me and ask who
was the mayor of Nolensville because she
[37:52] really wanted to punch him in the face.
[37:55] And it was over traffic, and she actually
was very kind in the end.
[37:59] But Nolensville Road, I think,
[38:01] is the undisputed issue within our
community with 1 North-South, um,
[38:05] 1 North-South Road. I think this board was
very, uh,
[38:08] proactive in the approach that we took to
apply for the Statewide Partnership
[38:13] Program. It is the only way that TDOT has
identified how to get state routes onto
[38:18] their 10-year list. So with that
application that was submitted on behalf
[38:23] application that was submitted on behalf
of the
[38:23] Town of Nolensville We have already
submitted a check for—
[38:27] or are in short order submitting a check
for $500,000 for the design and then have
[38:32] this contract to move forward with that
will start the process for widening
[38:37] Nolensville Road. I think it's important
for the community to understand that even
[38:42] though we're on the 10-year list, it does
not mean construction will start tomorrow.
[38:47] It actually means construction will start
in 10 years.
[38:51] That is very painful for, I think, anybody
that is along Nolensville Road daily,
[38:56] as many of us are. But it is a step,
[38:58] and it is one of very few projects across
the state that were added to the list.
[39:03] It is not a— it is not something that
every community is able to say that they
[39:08] every community is able to say that they
got
[39:08] their state road added to the 10-year
list.
[39:11] So I am very proud of us being on this
list,
[39:13] and I hope I believe the rest of the board
is. I hope the community is as well.
[39:18] It is, it is a big commitment.
[39:20] The scary part of that commitment is the
financial commitment.
[39:24] We initially proposed $10.5 million as our
contribution.
[39:28] That is not how TDOT operates.
[39:30] TDOT operates where they will give a
specific amount and you have to fund any
[39:34] overages. So I, I think it's incumbent
upon us as an organization with staff to
[39:39] upon us as an organization with staff to
work
[39:40] very closely with TDOT to try to keep this
project within scope, within budget,
[39:45] because it is a significant financial
contribution.
[39:48] It's almost equal to one year's
operational budget for the Town of
[39:52] operational budget for the Town of
Nolensville,
[39:53] and when it was submitted, it was closer
to it than what the budget is for '71.
[39:58] So I think that we should move forward
with this.
[40:01] I think Nolensville Road has always been a
key for economic development.
[40:05] Our businesses need to be able to have— I
think that's a great point.
[40:10] cars be able to come to them to visit
them.
[40:12] It's also quality of life for the citizens
of Nolensville.
[40:16] So I hope the board will continue to
support Resolution 26-087.
[40:20] Oh, I haven't said much tonight, so now is
my chance.
[40:24] Um, I, uh, I'll just say that I think we
have a lot on our plate right now.
[40:30] We have a lot of competing Needs that are
not something that we can just push aside.
[40:37] And I think that this project is, is going
to be the,
[40:41] the biggest of those things in terms of
longevity,
[40:46] in terms of how we will remember our time
up here.
[40:50] Road projects— and I know this goes
without saying,
[40:54] but there's an economic factor to this.
[40:57] Um, our town is rapidly growing and we are
getting more commercial,
[41:02] and I know we all desire even more
commercial.
[41:06] People have— like the mayor said, people
have to have a way to get there.
[41:12] And one of the things that— I said this at
the last meeting—
[41:17] but one of the things that I heard a lot
over the last couple years was that
[41:23] employees are hard to retain because they
don't want to drive down Nolensville Road.
[41:30] Right.
[41:31] Customers are switching to online
ordering, which thankfully we still get
[41:37] ordering, which thankfully we still get
the,
[41:37] the benefit of that.
[41:38] But if we want to, to continue to support
our businesses, to support our people,
[41:45] this is, this is the best thing that we
can do.
[41:48] And speaking from a position of, in my
professional life,
[41:52] seeing a lot of these projects, getting on
this list is huge.
[41:57] And it's It's really the only way that
this is going to happen.
[42:02] And so yes, the dollar figure is big,
[42:05] but we've taken small steps this last
budget cycle to,
[42:09] to start getting to a place where we, we
will be ready when TDOT calls.
[42:14] And so I'm actually really proud that I'm
up here and able to vote on this because I
[42:21] think it's going to be— Thank you.
[42:30] Please.
[42:30] Oh, no.
[42:31] Mayor, I will say that what you and
Commissioner Carpenter offered tonight is
[42:36] Commissioner Carpenter offered tonight is
right
[42:36] on point. And I remember the night that we
sat at this desk and we had to hash out
[42:42] what would be our contribution to this.
[42:44] And we, we can't discuss this outside of
this room, nor should we be.
[42:49] And everything we do is in the public eye
and we had to exchange ideas.
[42:53] And why do we think this figure might work
better than that?
[42:57] And we came to the $10.5 million figure.
[43:00] And one thing I will just share with all
of my neighbors across Nolensville,
[43:05] this is TDOT's program.
[43:06] This is the way they have chosen to run
their, their business.
[43:10] And it's a 10-year plan. Nolensville was
not on it a year ago, but we are now.
[43:15] And it's pay to play.
[43:16] Okay.
[43:17] We had to pony up some. And Victor, thank
you for keeping it on the forefront.
[43:21] Thank you for keeping it where we would be
acting on it.
[43:24] Mayor, I've had a brief conversation with
our state senator who happens to be the
[43:28] majority leader of the state Senate, Jack
Johnson.
[43:31] This is before the TDOT gave us the word
that we were on the list.
[43:35] And he said to me, he goes, hey,
[43:36] I saw Haley the other day and I told her
that was huge what y'all did,
[43:40] the vote y'all took to add $10.5 million.
I'm like, really?
[43:43] Yeah.
[43:44] Okay, good. Maybe we'll get some good
news.
[43:46] And surely enough, like 3 or 4 weeks
later, we got the—
[43:49] we got the news we were on the list.
[43:50] It is going to be a decade away, but if we
don't start doing it now,
[43:54] it'll be 2 decades away before anything
might change for our people.
[43:57] And the quality of life for the—
[43:59] for the people that call Nolensville home
would not be impacted unless we took the
[44:03] steps we— we took. So we ought to say
thank you, um,
[44:05] to the taxpayers that are going to be
financing this when it—
[44:08] when the bill comes due. The taxpayers
know we're going to be doing it.
[44:12] But if I can also say thanks to each of my
colleagues,
[44:14] I hope the people of Nolens will see that
in this specific vote and hopefully other
[44:18] votes we've been doing,
[44:19] that we are trying to do the people's
business and do it well and do it
[44:23] business and do it well and do it
thoughtfully
[44:23] up here. And we're acting collegially,
[44:25] but we're also diving into the details
because that's how we arrived at that
[44:29] because that's how we arrived at that
$10.5
[44:29] million figure. We dove into the details.
[44:31] And lastly, the mayor referenced the dear
lady who was at the polling place.
[44:35] As I recall, Commissioner Carpenter and I
were standing nearby And I offered,
[44:39] I said, Haley, do you want me to tell her
that Jake McCalmon's the mayor of
[44:42] Nolensville? And she goes, nope, I got
this.
[44:45] So good on you for taking it what it was.
[44:47] But, um, I was going to send her to say—
[44:48] I was going to point towards State
Representative Jake McCalmon and say,
[44:52] that's the mayor of Nolensville right
there, lady. Go talk to him about that.
[44:56] But no, Haley stood up and took it. So
thank you to everybody in this matter.
[44:59] All right. Any other discussion for
Resolution 26-087?
[45:04] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[45:08] Aye.
[45:09] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[45:11] The next item is first reading of
Ordinance 26-17,
[45:13] an ordinance amending the fiscal year 2027
budget by the Board of Commissioners in
[45:17] the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee. Is
there a motion?
[45:20] Second.
[45:23] We have a motion and a second by
Commissioner Carpenter.
[45:27] Any discussion for first reading of
Ordinance 26-17?
[45:32] All in favor signify by saying aye.
[45:35] Aye.
[45:36] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[45:38] The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-088,
[45:41] a resolution to authorize submittal of
results of request for—
[45:44] request for proposals and recommendation
for contractor to TDEC for Chris Mann
[45:49] for contractor to TDEC for Chris Mann
Brown
[45:49] Park project and commitment to initiate
budget amendment to fund a portion of
[45:54] construction costs not covered by LPRF
grant. Is there a motion?
[45:57] Motion to approve.
[45:58] Second.
[45:59] We have a motion and a second. Any
discussion? All in favor signify by saying
[46:06] discussion? All in favor signify by saying
aye.
[46:06] Aye.
[46:07] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[46:10] That takes us to item 11, which is
Resolution 20— uh, 26-090,
[46:14] a resolution to approve the interlocal
agreement between Williamson County,
[46:19] Tennessee, and the Town of Nolensville for
the provision of firefighting Services.
[46:24] Is there a motion? Motion to approve. Is
there a second?
[46:28] Second.
[46:29] With a motion and a second, any
discussion?
[46:31] Chief Lopu, I'm so glad you get to come up
again.
[46:34] I feel like we really have to make sure
that, that, uh,
[46:37] apparently Vice Mayor Salamita wanted to
make sure you were here to the bitter end
[46:41] of the meeting.
[46:42] Yes.
[46:43] Commissioner Strieper, did you have
questions?
[46:47] Pace has been acceptable.
[46:49] I already packed my razor, so I didn't get
the chance to shave,
[46:52] so I apologize for that.
[46:53] So just to be clear,
[46:55] and I want this to be clear for everyone,
Victor,
[47:00] you said this was just sent to us last
week?
[47:03] Correct.
[47:05] Relatively soon.
[47:05] So I think that was— to me, that's the
only surprise in this,
[47:10] is if it does lapse in July, are we not
tracking that?
[47:13] Are we waiting for them to call us?
[47:16] I just— my concern is, was there a
legitimate lapse in cross-service?
[47:21] It was waiting on them for them to vote on
it from their aspect.
[47:25] It is just a continuation of the exact
same agreement we had in place,
[47:29] and as long as we get it resolved on our
end before October 1st,
[47:33] which would be our next submittal for
payment, then, then they're good.
[47:38] Okay.
[47:39] I— as we deal with our own short-staffed,
[47:41] it's even more important and critical to
have this agreement in place.
[47:45] So I just want to make sure we weren't
putting ourselves at risk or our residents
[47:50] putting ourselves at risk or our residents
at
[47:50] risk at all.
[47:51] So, okay.
[47:51] So within the original agreement—
[47:54] so what's on our agenda is the addendum to
the agreement,
[47:58] but in the original agreement there is the
provision for $250 per call.
[48:03] Yes.
[48:04] For every other agreement we have with
Williamson County For example,
[48:09] animal control and E911 services, they are
done per capita.
[48:13] So the total cost of the service is added
up,
[48:16] and then if there's 17,000 people in
Nolensville and there's increases in
[48:20] population, there's an increase in the
amount that we pay to Williamson County.
[48:26] This agreement is not done that way,
[48:28] and I do understand that Fairview
implemented a similar agreement last year
[48:33] implemented a similar agreement last year
They're
[48:34] in a similar situation where they have
use—
[48:36] our second station is tied to this
agreement and is the Williamson County
[48:41] agreement and is the Williamson County
building
[48:42] at the corner, kind of the corner of
Clovercroft and Nolensville Road.
[48:46] Um, can we talk a little bit about the
$250 per call,
[48:50] which the updated fire report that came in
earlier tonight for the year from
[48:55] Williamson County for about 21% of our
total calls going into Williamson County
[49:00] Equals out to about $35,000 a year.
[49:02] It's about 70.
[49:04] So that report that, um,
[49:06] for the June 2026 said that their
year-to-date
[49:11] was, uh, 142 calls.
[49:13] It's a January to December year looking at
from that aspect.
[49:18] Okay, so it is closer to 70.
[49:20] Yes.
[49:20] Um, still with an annual operating budget.
[49:23] And this is no surprise because this is
the exact same stuff that I said last
[49:28] the exact same stuff that I said last
time.
[49:28] I'm going to vote in support of the
agreement, so Spoiler alert.
[49:32] But I think it's valid that we have to
make sure that we are negotiating what the
[49:38] cost per call is and make sure that if the
cost that we pay to Williamson County for
[49:43] other services goes up each year, which it
has,
[49:46] that we're looking at that for this
agreement as well.
[49:50] With the timing of this, I,
[49:51] I'm just curious what kind of negotiations
were included with Williamson County on
[49:57] the, the cost per call.
[49:58] And, you know, we're kind of just now
getting final reports,
[50:02] which is normal time frame for us to get
final reports for,
[50:06] for June for looking at full fiscal year.
[50:09] But how are we evaluating that for the
cost of— for the town of Nolensville?
[50:13] Our intent was to basically continue this
into this next year,
[50:17] and then we would be reevaluating probably
early in 2027 to see how—
[50:22] just have discussion with the county.
[50:24] So then the next time we up our agreement
for July,
[50:28] that would be where that discussion would
come in prior to that.
[50:32] So by July, hopefully, of 2027, if we had
to adjust those numbers,
[50:36] that's when it would take place.
[50:38] So the, the adjustment, or the way that
the numbers were developed to begin with,
[50:44] we did them— we looked at it 2 ways.
[50:47] First of all, we We did an empirical dive
into what we think it costs us to make
[50:52] that run, provide that service.
[50:55] And we came up with a dollar figure on
like a—
[50:58] on what a call would take if it was an
hour-long call or something like that.
[51:03] And then we turned around and looked at
FEMA reimbursement rates.
[51:08] What if we are working on a project that's
Or there's an agreement that FEMA will
[51:14] reimburse us or a city will reimburse us
for the rates.
[51:18] And what we came out with amazingly is
those numbers were very close.
[51:23] And so this particular number I think
reflects the FEMA reimbursement rate for
[51:28] reflects the FEMA reimbursement rate for
that—
[51:29] for the apparatus that's going out.
[51:31] So FEMA reimbursement rates are not
operational reimbursement rates though.
[51:36] That to me has been the consistent
challenge with the arrangement that I
[51:41] challenge with the arrangement that I
still want
[51:41] to publicly voice as a long-term concern.
[51:44] I'm also curious if, because we have 2
neighborhoods that are in our fire
[51:48] neighborhoods that are in our fire
district,
[51:49] one being Silver Stream and the other
being The Farm,
[51:52] if there's been any review of like— and I
don't even know if these are legal,
[51:57] but like subscription-based services.
[52:00] I know there are other communities that do
that.
[52:03] Yes.
[52:04] How have we explored those types of models
to ensure that as the demand for services
[52:10] within the town of Nolensville goes up,
[52:13] that we are first and foremost serving the
town of Nolensville taxpayers?
[52:19] Last year, the, the tax rate increased to,
to cover costs for service,
[52:24] and I think it's important for us to to
make sure that we're evaluating that.
[52:29] This wasn't on our workshop,
[52:31] so I didn't have the benefit of asking
these questions in a workshop,
[52:36] but I do think it's important for us not
to just rubber stamp everything that comes
[52:42] through and to have those discussions.
[52:45] Well, I can tell you that we have not
evaluated a subscription service piece
[52:51] evaluated a subscription service piece
yet,
[52:51] but when we set this in place We were
looking— we were already,
[52:56] because of the dynamic that we had with
the county in utilizing their building,
[53:02] we were already making those responses.
[53:05] We were looking at basically trying to, as
far as the service territory,
[53:11] trying to keep the operations like they
were and then get reimbursed for what it
[53:17] were and then get reimbursed for what it
was
[53:17] costing us. And yes, we're using FEMA
rates.
[53:21] Okay.
[53:21] But those FEMA rates mirrored what our
operational costs would be.
[53:26] No, we haven't put in a 2% add-on for cost
of living or something for this
[53:31] particular year to try to renegotiate that
for this year.
[53:35] But as Chief Lupo said,
[53:37] it is our intent to do that in the
upcoming contract by starting that
[53:42] upcoming contract by starting that
dialogue soon
[53:43] and start— And I think that's a good
point.
[53:46] Seeing what, what changes do we need to
make going forward.
[53:51] And if anything, our,
[53:53] our numbers running into the county are
going to be well under the hour per
[53:58] call based on the type of the call types
we run out there.
[54:01] It's mainly medical, right?
[54:03] Yeah, medical, car wrecks, those sorts of
things.
[54:05] I might ask my colleagues if there's any
appetite.
[54:08] I'm aligned with what the mayor said about
us ensuring that we're getting We're
[54:12] protecting the, the treasury of the
taxpayers of Nolensville first, foremost,
[54:17] and always. We also want to be good
partners to our neighbors that reside in
[54:21] partners to our neighbors that reside in
the
[54:21] county. But I believe I heard Chief Lupo
say that as long as we get something done
[54:26] ahead of October 1st, that's when we're
going to submit our next bill to the
[54:30] going to submit our next bill to the
county,
[54:30] we should be okay, right?
[54:32] Yes.
[54:32] Well, that being considered,
[54:34] is there any appetite on this board to
perhaps let's table this until we take it
[54:38] perhaps let's table this until we take it
up
[54:38] at our next work session to give Victor
and his team a chance to perhaps come back
[54:43] with some better numbers, uh, or should we
move forward tonight?
[54:47] I just want to kind of poll everybody,
see, does that make sense?
[54:51] If we've got time to do it, perhaps that's
what we're going to do.
[54:54] I think there's 2 components you have to
look at,
[54:57] and I think what Chief Lupo is saying is
valid,
[54:59] that from the submittal of the
reimbursement—
[55:02] but this interlocal agreement is actually
the legal authority we have to serve in
[55:06] the county. And so in order for us to I'm
not the attorney.
[55:09] Charles, do you want to step in?
[55:10] Well, you asked me and I said yes.
[55:14] Uh, yeah, the interlocal agreement should
be, uh, put back in effect, I guess. Okay.
[55:18] It should have been July 1st.
[55:20] I mean, like, realistically,
[55:21] we need to not do this a month late
because it is the legal authority to
[55:25] because it is the legal authority to
continue to
[55:26] do it.
[55:27] It does.
[55:28] But you could change the time frame. I
mean, like, if you— if you—
[55:32] so to answer your question, no,
[55:34] I'm ready to move forward with the
interlocal agreement.
[55:37] And we've had this discussion multiple
times,
[55:40] and I can appreciate where you're coming
from, and it's the charge-out,
[55:44] an expense that is covering the
operational costs, and I can respect that.
[55:48] We're going to the call either way.
[55:51] We are making the support for these calls
that are coming in.
[55:54] Now we have somewhat of a reward, if you
will, in being paid the $250.
[55:58] So to answer your question, no, I'm ready
to move forward.
[56:02] I think prolonging this could potentially
get into those fees that we need to bill
[56:06] out for and an error on our side of not
being able to collect those.
[56:10] And so my answer would be ready to move
forward and give a yes to move forward.
[56:15] So to the Vice Mayor's point,
[56:18] what leverage do we have to actually
negotiate?
[56:22] Because My understanding is that, like
Silver Streams for example,
[56:29] if we don't have an agreement, who
responds if there's a fire?
[56:34] Most likely we're still going to get
called out, right?
[56:38] So I understand the, the mayor's point.
[56:41] I actually think we should look into and
get a better rate if, if that is possible.
[56:47] And so my genuine question is, what
leverage do we have?
[56:52] Because it seems like We're responsible
regardless,
[56:56] and having the agreement just simply gets
us a little bit of, um, not revenue,
[57:02] but something for that.
[57:04] County's been very cooperative working
with us on this, and they've, you know,
[57:09] from the very beginning they've said
they're open to renegotiating and looking
[57:13] they're open to renegotiating and looking
at
[57:13] these numbers again in the future.
[57:15] Um, this— to answer for the subscription
service,
[57:18] the problem with that is it would still
leave county residents without fire
[57:23] protection, which would then leverage the
county to reopen the volunteer station up,
[57:28] which would then relocate us out of there,
[57:30] which would have an effect on our ISO by
losing that station.
[57:34] So there's logistical stuff with that
tracking who is a subscriber, who isn't.
[57:38] So I would, I'd be opposed to that in my
last day.
[57:41] Good. I choked up. Because it's your last
day.
[57:45] Um, okay, so I do think there's, there's
value in getting— it's not time, you know,
[57:52] pressing, but getting some kind of, uh,
[57:55] evaluation or a staff report or something
that can help us understand if,
[58:01] if we need to negotiate for a higher rate.
[58:04] Like the mayor said, before, before July
1st date.
[58:08] Um, I mean, I would like to see it much
sooner than later, but I,
[58:14] I would like to see something like that. I
think it's worth looking into.
[58:20] We're looking into other fees and, and
whatnot, and so, you know,
[58:25] staff can do with that as they may unless
the board also feels strongly about that
[58:32] as well.
[58:33] But—
[58:33] I think one of the things that we could
do, uh, Commissioner Carpenter,
[58:37] is take a look at the data that Uh, for
the runs, the,
[58:41] the 142 calls that have been since
January, I think, take a look at those.
[58:46] Uh, they do have the, the time in, time
out, time back.
[58:49] Yes.
[58:49] So we would know how much time are we
spending on those calls.
[58:53] And then we can take a look at those
individually and then collectively to say,
[58:58] okay, well, did that call cost us $250
that we got for?
[59:02] Uh, so at the end of the, at the end of
that 6-month period, Are we good?
[59:06] Are we under? You know, and,
[59:08] and that will dictate whether or not it
has covered our operational costs.
[59:12] And as I understand it, just correct me if
I am way off here,
[59:17] but as I understand it,
[59:18] all calls that we've made out to county
have not been met with a,
[59:23] a call that we have not been able to serve
our residents. Is that correct?
[59:28] Correct. We, we Most are definitely
medical and car wrecks.
[59:32] Most of our calls out in the county are a
single unit response,
[59:36] so most of our duplicates or overlapping
calls after that,
[59:40] we still have a unit available in the
town.
[59:42] Thank you.
[59:46] And it's always the secondary unit that
responds, is that correct?
[59:49] Yeah, I think the only—
[59:51] we—
[59:51] I think we've had one incident which was
an actual structure fire where we had to—
[59:55] we sent, uh, Arrington,
[59:56] I believe we had to call for mutual aid
for Arrington to respond.
[59:59] But we would have went to that fire.
[1:00:00] We would have been called for mutual aid
to that fire whether we were in this
[1:00:04] agreement or not.
[1:00:05] Was that that brush fire, or was it— it
was—
[1:00:08] there was one that was in the town that
was not in the
[1:00:12] mutualized area.
[1:00:17] I will support the reevaluation of our
negotiated rate.
[1:00:21] I think that's a good idea to look at.
[1:00:24] what it truly does cost us operationally
to roll out to these calls.
[1:00:29] Um, but I do think we, we need this
agreement in place.
[1:00:33] It's, it's vital for our service of our
residents and even those that are maybe
[1:00:39] residents and even those that are maybe
just
[1:00:40] outside our town boundary. Um, that's
where I stand.
[1:00:43] So this agreement's for a 1-year
extension, I believe,
[1:00:47] in the original interlocal agreement,
which is not what's on the agenda.
[1:00:52] There was a provision that said that if
there was any renegotiation,
[1:00:56] you had to give 6 months' notice.
[1:00:58] So I think, Commissioner Gill, to your
point, I support what you're saying, but
[1:01:03] point, I support what you're saying, but
I,
[1:01:03] I think for a lot of reasons, uh, it
should move forward with the 1 year.
[1:01:08] We said this last year.
[1:01:10] I really don't— Commissioner Struford, I
think,
[1:01:13] said it well at the beginning of
discussion for this.
[1:01:16] That we've got to be on the front end of
it, not on the back end.
[1:01:20] And, um, I understand that it's an
interlocal agreement with the county,
[1:01:25] but because it's the legal foundation for
us responding into the county as primary
[1:01:30] response, I wish we were more proactive in
how we got these on the agenda and had
[1:01:36] them voted on, especially given that when
the draft agenda came out on Thursday It
[1:01:41] wasn't on there. I actually did not see
this.
[1:01:44] I had reviewed the agenda, I think on
Tuesday, did not see it.
[1:01:48] And then thankfully went through it again
today is when I, when I saw it.
[1:01:53] So when these get added,
[1:01:54] I think that communication is really
important so that everybody can be
[1:01:59] important so that everybody can be
informed,
[1:01:59] because I imagine the rest of the board
would have liked to have read the full
[1:02:04] interlocal agreement, not just the, um,
the addendum. Thank you.
[1:02:09] Can I ask before we move on, uh, Victor,
when can you have something for us?
[1:02:15] So you mentioned that you could look at
time and, and costs and all that.
[1:02:21] When can you have a staff report for us?
[1:02:24] I'm gonna have to look first, see how
complex the data is.
[1:02:27] Um, my goal would try to be have something
at your work session Um, but I haven't—
[1:02:33] not looking at the data and understanding
what all is going to have to be, how,
[1:02:38] how difficult it is to get the information
that we think we need, um, it might—
[1:02:44] I would say worst case it would be the
following work session,
[1:02:48] but our goal would be to try to get you
something by the work session so you all
[1:02:53] something by the work session so you all
can
[1:02:53] have that information.
[1:02:55] Thank you. I— thank you.
[1:02:57] Okay, any other questions or discussion
for
[1:03:01] Resolution 26-090? All in favor signify by
saying
[1:03:05] aye.
[1:03:05] Aye.
[1:03:06] All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
Thank you, Chief Lupo.
[1:03:10] I am sorry to give you a hard time right
at the very end.
[1:03:13] Wouldn't have it any other way.
[1:03:18] All right, that takes us to reports and
comments from commissioners.
[1:03:21] School's about to start.
[1:03:24] That's a, that's a good Good thing,
[1:03:28] bad thing.
[1:03:30] Here comes the traffic.
[1:03:31] Well, yeah. We did receive the staff
report for sewer service and the urban
[1:03:37] report for sewer service and the urban
growth
[1:03:37] boundary, and it was excellent, very
helpful to understand.
[1:03:42] That 1997 interlocal agreement with, um,
[1:03:45] with Metro did indicate that we were
supposed to be working proactively with
[1:03:50] supposed to be working proactively with
Metro
[1:03:51] for sewer. I think there's a real
opportunity for the town to better engage
[1:03:56] opportunity for the town to better engage
with
[1:03:56] Metro to have an understanding of sewer
capacity.
[1:04:00] The report that listed out the projected
capacity— and I don't remember the date,
[1:04:06] the year stamp on that report— um, was
helpful.
[1:04:10] And I think especially with annexation
requests and understanding future growth
[1:04:15] requests and understanding future growth
we
[1:04:16] have a responsibility as a board to be
planning for that,
[1:04:20] and sewer capacity is an integral piece of
that.
[1:04:23] And I would love to see us more
proactively interact with Metro Sewer and
[1:04:29] proactively interact with Metro Sewer and
would like
[1:04:29] to hear more from the board but also staff
on ways to make that happen.
[1:04:35] I also think that should be happening
with, um,
[1:04:38] Nolensville College Grove Water Utility,
[1:04:41] and I've heard other members of this board
share that as well.
[1:04:46] I received feedback from a citizen earlier
this week related to water,
[1:04:51] and while I know we have no authority over
either of those utilities,
[1:04:56] that interlocal agreement that was brought
forward related to sewer service—
[1:05:02] Metro was agreeing to work with us when
they took over sewer service in this area.
[1:05:08] So I would love to hear more, not
necessarily tonight, But it,
[1:05:12] when appropriate about those areas.
[1:05:15] And if you have stuff to share tonight,
I'm happy to talk.
[1:05:19] I'll just make this one comment.
[1:05:21] When, when we were looking at the new
revised urban growth boundary,
[1:05:26] we reached out both to Metro and to, uh,
[1:05:28] Nolensville College Grove before we even
brought to you all the scope of the urban
[1:05:34] growth boundary and said, okay, we, you
know, we're looking at our planning area,
[1:05:39] the potential growth area.
[1:05:41] What's, what's your, Intents, what is your
ability to serve?
[1:05:44] And at the time we had received
information that, yes, we will have
[1:05:49] information that, yes, we will have
capacity.
[1:05:49] You know, we can serve that area. We can
do that.
[1:05:53] Now, Metro had said at that point that
they wouldn't go beyond the Ridgeline,
[1:05:58] but as far as everything that was in that
current UGB, you know,
[1:06:02] they would have the capacity to serve.
[1:06:04] Okay.
[1:06:05] Um, so, and, and we've heard something
similar from, um,
[1:06:10] Nolensville College Grove Utility
District.
[1:06:14] So we haven't been— we haven't been devoid
of, of conversations.
[1:06:20] Mm-hmm.
[1:06:20] But I do think that the whole issue of,
um, that has come about with the, uh,
[1:06:27] us being surprised that they did have a
capacity issue in their trunk main will
[1:06:33] create the ongoing conversations of, you
know, what your model will look like,
[1:06:39] where are we. Here's— every time that we
would do a growth plan update,
[1:06:45] we'll probably be having those
conversations with them about what does
[1:06:50] conversations with them about what does
that look
[1:06:51] like in their systems as well.
[1:06:54] Go ahead.
[1:06:56] I think it would be immensely valuable if
we got them to sit down with us as a
[1:07:01] board, whoever that may be at Metro Water,
[1:07:04] to talk about strategically what they're
looking at, what their goals are,
[1:07:09] how that fits in with what we're seeing
boots on the ground here,
[1:07:13] whether that's Enoch making that
connection or you.
[1:07:16] I think it's immensely important for us to
understand timeline for the trunk line
[1:07:21] replacement.
[1:07:22] Okay.
[1:07:22] replacement they are working on, what that
looks like,
[1:07:25] how far they really truly do intend to go
when it is all said and done.
[1:07:29] I think that would be great for them and
us to have a work session and really go
[1:07:33] through that.
[1:07:34] Okay.
[1:07:37] I have got a question regarding the sewer
document that was sent out.
[1:07:42] Under the section that was most
interesting to me,
[1:07:46] and I think the thing that we are really
focused on here,
[1:07:51] The section of waste disposal regulations
outside the town limits of Nolensville but
[1:07:57] within the UGB and outside of the drainage
basin.
[1:08:01] Um, you mentioned that staff has asked the
county multiple times for a copy of the
[1:08:08] policy that they claim says that we, we
have the ability to,
[1:08:12] to give property owners the right to For
alternative sewer.
[1:08:17] Um, have you heard anything?
[1:08:19] I know this recently came to us, but when
can you expect that?
[1:08:24] Yes, I, I have heard something, and that's
not yet a written policy.
[1:08:30] Uh, it is a— it is the way that they are
operating,
[1:08:34] but it has not yet been officially
adopted.
[1:08:37] So does that mean that Officially, we
don't have the authority to allow—
[1:08:45] Well, it just means for them, it gives
them the—
[1:08:50] it basically says that they would be able
to grant us— well, no,
[1:08:56] that's where we would be trying to work
toward is for them to be able to grant us
[1:09:04] authority or grant authority.
[1:09:07] Let them grant the authority for an
alternative system within the UGB outside
[1:09:15] alternative system within the UGB outside
of
[1:09:15] Metro system. Um, they're, they're—
[1:09:18] the policy that they're enforcing right
now is that they're not allowing them,
[1:09:26] period, if it's in the UGB. But that's not
written right now.
[1:09:33] But the thing that follows that statement
is a statement that the county's
[1:09:39] planning staff has indicated that language
modifying the policy— okay,
[1:09:44] I see. They could consider modifying it if
we decide to.
[1:09:48] Okay, that makes sense.
[1:09:50] And they are very interested in modifying
that policy if indeed we are.
[1:09:54] Okay.
[1:09:56] They've been very candid about that.
[1:09:57] Uh, you know, when I talked to their
planning staff, they, they thought that
[1:10:02] planning staff, they, they thought that
it—
[1:10:02] that the original one had already been
codified.
[1:10:05] But when they went back, I went back
through their stuff, I couldn't find it
[1:10:09] through their stuff, I couldn't find it
online.
[1:10:09] And then they called me back later in the
afternoon and said, oh, guess what,
[1:10:13] it's not been officially adopted, but
here's, here's where we're at.
[1:10:17] Okay.
[1:10:21] Do we serve the Jenkins Farm for fire?
[1:10:28] Yes.
[1:10:29] So this report that came out is not on our
agenda,
[1:10:31] but I do think it bears additional
discussion and would like it to be on our
[1:10:35] discussion and would like it to be on our
next
[1:10:36] workshop.
[1:10:36] Yeah.
[1:10:39] Is there anything else that you all would
like to see
[1:10:44] addressed or evaluated inside that
particular That
[1:10:50] topic.
[1:10:50] I, I would like it to be distilled to the
point of like,
[1:10:55] these are our options should we choose to
go down that road of—
[1:11:01] because I think this helps a lot to really
understand what the options are,
[1:11:07] especially when we're talking about, um,
[1:11:11] restricting a property that is outside of
our town I think it would be helpful
[1:11:18] to know what the possible policy tracks
that we could go down would be.
[1:11:24] Okay.
[1:11:27] Do you want me to do anything?
[1:11:29] I think I understand. I'll have some
offline commentary—
[1:11:31] Sure.
[1:11:32] Chat with you and just make sure I've got
in mind what you're looking for.
[1:11:36] Okay.
[1:11:37] Was the planning report from Metro
something that we already had in our
[1:11:41] something that we already had in our
files,
[1:11:41] or did we go get that from Metro to
generate this report?
[1:11:44] Um, Enoch was able to find that.
[1:11:52] Um, I found it in a box that Don had in
the closet.
[1:11:55] I mean, I called Metro 2 or 3 times, tried
to get information.
[1:11:58] They didn't have anything.
[1:12:00] So I went and dug through the closet
upstairs Joel had,
[1:12:03] and I found that in the bottom of the box,
just a sewer.
[1:12:06] So I scanned it, sent it out.
[1:12:10] So do we— presumably Metro creates these
reports for other areas.
[1:12:14] Do we think that they've not restudied the
Nolensville Basin since 1997, or do you—
[1:12:19] is it possible— I understand they haven't
been willingly giving it to you,
[1:12:24] but they did sign an interlocal agreement
saying that they would cooperate with the
[1:12:29] town of Nolensville, albeit in 1997,
related to sewer.
[1:12:32] Um, when they determined that the trunk
line was functioning at 80% capacity?
[1:12:37] There must have been some studies. Can,
can we—
[1:12:40] I think what they did was redo their
modeling, uh, and had, uh,
[1:12:45] it was my understanding that they were
going through systematically, uh,
[1:12:51] taking a look at their sewer models and
that they were in the process of redoing
[1:12:58] that they were in the process of redoing
it
[1:12:58] when they discovered via the model that
they were much higher capacity than what,
[1:13:05] uh, what they thought. Um, I don't know
that they've done a full basin, uh, study.
[1:13:11] That's certainly something that we can
inquire, but—
[1:13:16] Yeah, I've talked to Metro 2 or 3 times,
and they've had a lot of people retire.
[1:13:20] Cyrus Tucci's retired, Mike Marshall's
retired.
[1:13:23] Um, I've been talking to Steve I know a
lot of the folks that work there.
[1:13:27] I don't talk to Scott Potter much, their
director,
[1:13:30] because he's not really been involved with
the basin studies.
[1:13:34] But they really started studying this when
Farrington and Beezer came in,
[1:13:38] when they had to upgrade the Kidd Road
system. They put an 18-inch line down
[1:13:42] system. They put an 18-inch line down
Kidd.
[1:13:43] They took out 5 lift stations that served
a lot of the Stonebrook area.
[1:13:47] That's what triggered them to really start
studying that area.
[1:13:50] Well, they determined about a year and a
half ago that It was at capacity.
[1:13:55] Uh, so they have issued a purchase order
to Garney Construction to upgrade that
[1:13:59] line.
[1:14:01] They've ordered pipe.
[1:14:01] I think they've got some delays on getting
pipe.
[1:14:04] I don't have a— when today they're going
to start digging through town,
[1:14:08] but they're moving forward with it now,
you know.
[1:14:11] But they have studied— like,
[1:14:12] one of the things that came up with the
county dealing with Mike Madison when the
[1:14:17] farm came in You know,
[1:14:18] Metro's saying they should not have been
able to put in an alternate system there
[1:14:22] without the county's approval, without
their approval.
[1:14:25] The county said, we didn't know nothing
about it, we just did it, you know.
[1:14:29] Uh, so that kind of thing.
[1:14:31] The Metro says, you know, they've—
[1:14:33] the county wasn't forthright with them
about that.
[1:14:35] They should have asked, got their approval
first,
[1:14:38] because that's part of that agreement.
But, um, but—
[1:14:41] And I think there's other county
agreements.
[1:14:43] And the county had signed the agreement.
[1:14:44] They had the agreement too, but nobody
looked at it.
[1:14:47] It was a long time ago, I guess.
[1:14:49] But, uh, that's one thing that the county
said to him,
[1:14:51] and Mike Madison and Victor's talked to
him as well, is, yeah,
[1:14:54] we don't have an official policy,
[1:14:56] but anything in the urban growth boundary
of Nolensville,
[1:14:59] whether it's subdivisions or anything,
[1:15:01] we want the town's thoughts on it because
they're going to annex it someday.
[1:15:04] We want to make— meet their policies. kind
of thing.
[1:15:07] Whether they have to or not, I don't know,
[1:15:09] but that's sort of where they are right
now in their operating procedures.
[1:15:13] Whether it's in their ordinances or not,
that's the way they want to look at it.
[1:15:17] I have comments, but I think, I think
we'll— I'll save mine for the work
[1:15:23] we'll— I'll save mine for the work
session.
[1:15:24] Okay.
[1:15:28] Any other reports and comments from
commissioners?
[1:15:31] The only other item I'd really like to,
[1:15:34] to discuss some time frames with is the
update to the zoning ordinance that's
[1:15:39] update to the zoning ordinance that's
still
[1:15:40] in the Planning Commission.
[1:15:42] That's something that's been in process
for a little while now, and, uh,
[1:15:47] I don't know if Brad has any— I didn't
give you a heads up or anything about
[1:15:52] give you a heads up or anything about
that.
[1:15:52] That's okay. That's all right.
[1:15:54] Um, Planning Commission is next Tuesday,
[1:15:57] and We've sent out to the Planning
Commission members for their agenda the
[1:16:02] Commission members for their agenda the
draft of
[1:16:03] Article 8. So we mentioned, I think it's
been maybe a year ago now,
[1:16:08] that I sat probably right here and
mentioned that this process is going to
[1:16:13] mentioned that this process is going to
take a
[1:16:13] long time. And we are beginning Article 8
of 9.
[1:16:17] Um, 4 and 8 were always going to be The
rough ones, the, the very difficult ones.
[1:16:22] So 8 is because there's a relatively
lighter agenda for Planning Commission.
[1:16:28] We wanted to go ahead and get that on that
agenda for Planning Commission to take a
[1:16:33] look at it and provide any comments that
they had.
[1:16:37] I imagine that 8 is going to need a second
Planning Commission discussion coming off
[1:16:43] that. We've looked at it internally,
[1:16:45] but I think we would like continue to look
at it internally, but due to, uh,
[1:16:51] you know, the nature of knowing the timing
and, you know, we went ahead and,
[1:16:56] and got that for, for Planning Commission
to review.
[1:17:00] So we are hoping that maybe this month and
next month for 8,
[1:17:04] 9 could potentially be kind of wrapped up,
um,
[1:17:07] as a part of putting them all back
together.
[1:17:10] So, you know, as we mentioned, we've been
on We've been doing this— I,
[1:17:15] I looked at it, I think it was maybe
August,
[1:17:18] maybe July of last year where our initial
Planning Commission Article 1 discussion
[1:17:24] was. So it puts us so close enough, um,
you know,
[1:17:28] then we got to put it all back together.
[1:17:31] We've looked at 1, we've looked at 2, but
like I mentioned,
[1:17:35] it's been months and months since we
looked at 1.
[1:17:38] Are we still using the same terminology?
Now we got to push it all back together.
[1:17:44] So I'm imagining that's maybe a couple
months as well at the Planning Commission
[1:17:49] level, hopefully, hopefully sooner, and
then ultimately up to the board.
[1:17:55] Did that answer anything?
[1:17:56] Okay. So Article 8 for August and
September, presumably Article 9 in
[1:18:03] September, presumably Article 9 in
October.
[1:18:04] 9 is definitions, so definitions could
almost be handled kind of as we look at it
[1:18:10] all back together. So it could potentially
be 1 through 9 is,
[1:18:15] is looked at that in October.
[1:18:18] Yeah.
[1:18:18] Okay. And then as part of that review
process, um,
[1:18:22] Commissioner Strufert brought it up
earlier tonight,
[1:18:27] and I agree with him that the hamlet zone
that was in the zoning ordinance is
[1:18:34] a little bit challenging.
[1:18:36] And has there been discussion at the
Planning Commission or with staff about
[1:18:43] how the Hamlet Zone gets modified and/or
something similar to a PD or PUD
[1:18:49] like there was previously?
[1:18:52] There has been discussion.
[1:18:53] And spoiler, you know, I think Article 8,
or on this upcoming Tuesday's meeting,
[1:18:59] I would assume may go around that a lot.
[1:19:01] Um, couldn't— I don't know what, what
we'll ultimately talk about.
[1:19:06] It's— I think just Article 8 is 109 pages
as it is,
[1:19:09] so with red lines it's much longer.
[1:19:11] Um, so it's— I mean, that's just that
portion of it.
[1:19:15] Um, you know, we didn't really— I'm trying
to recall.
[1:19:18] I think with Article 4,
[1:19:20] which is where the zoning bulk standards
for the zoning districts are in the
[1:19:25] for the zoning districts are in the
current
[1:19:25] ordinance, we didn't, we didn't adjust
much of that CH and RH,
[1:19:29] which are the hamlet districts.
[1:19:31] But as we've gone through it,
[1:19:33] there's been increased discussion and
interest in what do PUDs look like.
[1:19:38] Is there a process in which that we can
facilitate that and, and that the,
[1:19:43] the board is ultimately comfortable with
them,
[1:19:46] whether if it's a modification of standard
approach as other municipalities utilize
[1:19:51] that Um, where you're either doing a
development by right and you kind of do
[1:19:56] development by right and you kind of do
this
[1:19:56] process, or if you're asking for any
modifications to standard and, and,
[1:20:01] and you very clearly are asking for them
individually.
[1:20:04] That's one of the questions that has come
up, and, uh,
[1:20:08] staff has written a little bit that, you
know,
[1:20:11] brought that into some of the changes in
Article 8,
[1:20:14] and we'll get feedback on Tuesday.
[1:20:16] Thank you. I appreciate that. All right.
[1:20:19] Any other reports and comments from
commissioners?
[1:20:23] Mayor, if I just may take a personal
moment.
[1:20:26] Um, I shared with the vice mayor before we
got started tonight.
[1:20:30] I'll need to share it with the chief of
police, if that's all right.
[1:20:34] Chief Armour, as of 3 o'clock this
afternoon,
[1:20:37] there's another Gil on the highway
driving.
[1:20:40] My 16-year-old son got the perfect score,
we were told,
[1:20:43] at the driver's testing center.
[1:20:45] He takes after his mother, obviously, when
it comes to test-taking,
[1:20:49] but I'm afraid he may take after his
father when it comes to having a lead
[1:20:54] father when it comes to having a lead
foot.
[1:20:54] So nonetheless, congratulations to my son
Taylor on getting his driver's license
[1:20:59] today.
[1:20:59] Congratulations, Commissioner Gill.
[1:21:03] All right, is there any other comments or
a
[1:21:08] motion to adjourn?
[1:21:09] Second.
[1:21:11] All in favor of adjournment signify by
saying aye. Aye.
[1:21:13] All opposed?
[1:21:13] Motion passes unanimously.