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Okay, good afternoon everyone. Welcome

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uh members and guests and staff. It is

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the January 27th, 2026 council meeting.

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And a quick reminder that our meetings

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are web streamed and televised. So, if

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everyone could take a moment to ensure

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their their phones are on silent, that

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would be greatly appreciated.

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With that, I call January 27th, 2026

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council meeting to order and note that

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councelor Vandenishi, Huffman, and Barry

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are present today. However, they're

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attending virtually. All other members

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are present.

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The municipality of Norfol County is

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committed to furthering truth and

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reconciliation in our communities. We

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recognize the historical and current

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contributions of indigenous peoples

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throughout Canada and particularly in

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Norfolk County that have added to the

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rich cultural and social fabric that

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exists here today. We will strive to

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continually strengthen and develop the

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spirit of respect, cooperation, and

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collaboration to the mutual benefit of

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all Norfol County residents.

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Changes to the agenda. We have two.

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The first is to add a deputation from

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Alan McBride regarding agenda item

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215 Victoria Street Simco. And then the

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second is to move the agenda item 12.1.1

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staff report uh on that same matter to

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after the deputations.

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Is there any other addition or change

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request from council members?

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Seeing none. Oh, okay. We need a

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two-thirds majority uh to wave the rules

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of order and add those. Is there a mover

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and a seconder? Councelor Columbus,

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Councelor Bruntton. All in favor? And

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then to accept the amended agenda moved

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by Councelor Michelle, Councelor Duffy.

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All in favor?

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Carried. Thank you. Are there any

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declarations of pecuniary interest

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today?

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Councelor Columbus.

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>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yes, I've got a

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» Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yes, I've got a

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conflict to report with respect to

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agenda item 10.1. This is the council

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and committee minutes item 8.2.1.

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It's a water wastewater collection

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policy and uh I've got a conflict with

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respect to portion dealing with the

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landlord and tenant component of that

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policy

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according to what the integrity

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commissioner informs me.

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>> Okay. Um, please feel free to just turn

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» Okay. Um, please feel free to just turn

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on your microphone and remind me if I

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don't

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remember when we get to that section,

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but I'll make a note of it. Anyone else?

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Did I miss anyone?

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Okay, great. We have uh early close

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session. Just one item that we have to

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deal with prior to uh our open session

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meeting.

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I'm looking for a mover for the

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following motion that council enter into

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close session at 10:04 p.m. to discuss

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items pursuant to section 2392H

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of the Municipal Act 2001 as amended as

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a subject matter pertains to information

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explicitly supplied in confidence to the

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municipality or local board by Canada, a

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province or territory or a crown agency

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of any of them. Moved by councelor

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Vampassen, seconded by

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councelor Duffy. All in favor?

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Carried unanimously. Thanks. How long?

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Roughly

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5 10 minutes. We should be back very

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quickly.

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Hey, Norfolk County. Did you know that

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Ride Norfolk is now on demand? This

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means you can schedule Norfolk's public

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transit service to pick you up for

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appointments, shopping, school, or work.

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Ride Norfolk has partnered with Blaze

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Transit to offer ondemand pickups at all

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95 stops across Norfol, including this

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one. I booked my trip earlier today and

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my bus is here right on time. Since

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there are no fixed local schedules, you

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can easily book Ride Norfolk over the

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phone, online, or on the Blaze Transit

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app from your smartphone. Thanks,

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Charlie.

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>> You're welcome.

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» You're welcome.

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>> Ride Norfolk's customer service team can

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» Ride Norfolk's customer service team can

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help answer any questions you may have,

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get you started with the app, or book

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your next ride. By moving to on demand,

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Ride Norfolk is helping more residents

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get where they need to go. To learn

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more, visit norfolcount.ca/transit. da

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/transit.

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Hi, I'm Marissa and I'm here to take you

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behind the scenes for a quick look at

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what we do at Norfolk Countyy's waste

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and recycling operations. Here at the

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transfer station in Simco, residents can

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bring a variety of waste materials for

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disposal. Norfolk operates two transfer

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stations welcoming about 27,000

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customers every year and accepts

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material ranging from bulky items, wood,

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metal, and yard waste. Norfolk also

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provides curbside waste programs.

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Recycling from your home arrives at this

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facility where it is manually sorted by

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the type of material. You can see why

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it's important to separate materials

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into the correct bin, rinse recyclables,

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and remove items from bags. This

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facility processes 4600 metric tons per

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year. That's equal to about 20 tons per

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day. Once items are sorted by material

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type, they are bailed and ready to be

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shipped across North America to be made

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into new material. About 8 to 10% of the

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material that arrives here shouldn't

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have been put in the recycling bin.

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Residents can use our recycle coach app

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to confirm if an item can be recycled.

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After seeing how waste is handled, I

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hope this video helps show why rinsing

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and sorting your recyclables are

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important steps in the recycling

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process. As a Norfolk County employee, I

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am proud to serve the community I was

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raised in. Thanks for joining me on this

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behind-the-scenes tour.

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This summer, discover the hidden gem of

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Norfolk County, Ontario's garden. Stroll

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through historic villages where time

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seems to slow down. Feel the sand

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between your toes on our pristine Lake

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Eerie beaches. From live theater that

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captivates to trails that wind through

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breathtaking landscapes, adventure and

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relaxation await at every turn. Meet the

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farmers who grow your dinner and taste

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wine and beer crafted right here.

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Experience Norfolk County this summer,

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where small town charm meets farm fresh

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flavor. Ontario's garden. It's time you

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came home to it.

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Hey, Norfol County. I'm Chris and I'm

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here to take you behind the scenes to

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show you how Norfol County manages storm

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water in our towns and communities.

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Storm water isn't just rain or melted

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snow. It's any excess water that runs

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off hard surfaces like roads, driveways,

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and rooftops. But where does that water

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go? And why is managing it important?

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Norfolk storm water systems include

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pipes, ditches, catch basins, and ponds

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that work together to manage this

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runoff. Storm water systems like ponds

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slow the flow and allow dirt and

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pollutants to settle and release cleaner

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water into the environment. Without

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proper management, storm water can flood

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basement, damage roads, and carry

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contaminants like oil, garbage, and salt

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into our rivers and lakes. That's why

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Norol County created a dedicated storm

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water team in 2024 to better understand

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and maintain what we already have while

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planning for the future. This storm

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water pond in Port Dover helps to reduce

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flooding and improve water quality. Over

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time, sediment and pollutants build up

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within storm ponds, limiting their

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ability to hold water. This creates an

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ideal environment for algae and invasive

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plants like fragmitees to flourish. This

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fast growing species can block out the

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flow of water and crowd out native

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vegetation reducing the habitat that

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Okay, that was very speedy. Thanks,

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staff. Uh, move in a second or to

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reconvene and open session at 1:10.

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Moved by councelor Van Passen, seconded

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councelor Michelle. All in favor and

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reporting out the report. Uh, let's see.

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4.1 on the agenda was received as

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information. We have nothing else to

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report. Correct, Mr. Clerk? Okay.

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Consent items 5.1. We have the 2026

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interim property tax levy CS260002.

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I'm looking for a motion to receive

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consent item one as presented.

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Huffman. All in favor?

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Carried. Two communication items before

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council today. 6.1 is a letter from Todd

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Stanick and Peter Krauss of Norfolk

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General Hospital, a letter of

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appreciation. And the second is

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Longpoint Conservation Authority uh the

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Roma 2026 package.

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A mover and a seconder please to receive

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both of those as information.

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Councelor Columbus moves councelor Barry

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seconds. All in favor?

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Carried. Great. We'll move along to

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deputations. We have three now that

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we've changed the agenda. First, we have

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Scott from Valley Consulting and this is

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concerning agenda item 12.1.1 215

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council. Uh here to talk about the uh

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development proposed at 215 Victoria

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Street. Uh next slide, please.

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So, back in October, uh the original

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application was brought forward um that

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included a uh a mid-rise building with

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45 residential units. Um a mix of one

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and two bedroom um that street facing

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facade uh perimeter landscaping. Uh we

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were showing access via uh Austin

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Crescent and Donley Drive South as you

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can see on the original site plan uh

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with no access uh proposed off of uh off

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of Victoria Street. Next slide, please.

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So following that meeting, we we did

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have concerns from uh both staff and

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public. Um since October, we've been

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working with both uh Norfolk County

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staff and receiving input in input from

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the public um to try to uh reduce some

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of the impacts uh and the concerns that

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were raised at that October meeting. Um

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particularly the concerns we were heard

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were uh were density and building

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height. Um not enough parking on the

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area. Um there was particular concern of

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spillover parking into Austin Crescent.

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um traffic concerns along Donley Drive.

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entrances to the site with both Donley

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and uh Austin Crescent and sort of the

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issue of with uh the way it was set up

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that uh it might be used for a shortcut

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uh through the existing subdivision into

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uh Austin Crescent there. So since then,

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next slide please. We've worked uh with

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staff uh to bring back an updated uh

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application. Um they spent four months

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um since then trying to work to update

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the application to include a number of

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changes um includes site compatibility.

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So maintaining those large setbacks from

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the existing residential area and being

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as close to the road as possible while

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maintaining that uh appealing street uh

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facade. Um adjusting the building

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orientation um so that primary entrance

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is now uh facing towards Victoria

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Street, vice facing inwards to the uh

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development. um the height and density.

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So the reduction of five stories to four

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stories. Um so now uh the reduction in

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units to 23 one uh onebedrooms, 12

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two-bedroom units. Um so a total

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reduction in 10 units from 35 uh from uh

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45. Big thing here uh with that

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reduction in the height and the density,

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uh the on-site parking uh complies with

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all zoning. Um so it meets the zoning

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bylaw requirements for parking um from

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the standards set in the bylaw. um the

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adjusted vehicle access. So again uh

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both sites uh the access off Donley uh

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has been removed and the access off uh

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Austin Crescent has been removed uh with

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the sole access provided off Victoria.

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The intent there is to reduce uh people

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using uh Donley Drive, encourage traffic

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out um anybody heading north uh will

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take uh Victoria out to Ireland Road,

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head north to Highway 3 and to wherever

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it is they may go. Obviously, we can't

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force people to do that, but with that

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site orientation, it was felt it would

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help encourage traffic flows in those

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directions.

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Uh, next slide, please.

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So, here's our updated site plan. Uh,

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again, it's very similar from the where

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sort of the building is in relation to

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the uh existing residential development,

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but certainly a reconfiguration of the

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parking lot. Um that site entrance as

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you can see on the uh the south uh is

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the inout route um off Victoria. It's

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confirmed. I know we did chat about

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where is the actual property line. So

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that area in red um is already owned by

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Norfol County. That was road widening

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that was taken back in the 80s or '9s.

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Uh I'd have to go back on title to see

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when that actually happened, but it's

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already taken into account. All the

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requirements are based off the the

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property line which is that thick black

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line uh that runs along uh Victoria uh

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to provide that updated uh site plan.

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And then again like we said the

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vehicular access uh it was the key uh

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configuration here with the removal from

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Donley and uh Austin Crescent and then

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obviously the reduction in density from

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uh five floors to four. Next slide

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please.

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>> One minute remaining.

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» One minute remaining.

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So, just provided some elevations to

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provide some sort of context of what it

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would look like from the street. Um,

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again, if you um down by um coming in on

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Robinson by the golf course there, um

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that's a four-story building to just

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give some height perspective of what a

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four-story looks like. Uh next slide,

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please.

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So, again, as you can see the changes,

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there's been a lot of uh eliminating

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requirements. Um the only introduction

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is uh that uh special provision for

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restricting the building to four heights

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or four floors instead of uh five. Um

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the bylaw has definitely been simplified

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uh with these elimination of

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requirements.

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Next slide please.

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Next steps can't commit to timelines.

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Here is what a potential timeline could

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look like. Obviously the site still

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needs to go through extensive site plan

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review the detailed uh engineering of

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the site. Um, I encourage uh council to

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ask any questions they might have about

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that. Um, but that's a general sort of

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what would be hoped for, but can't be

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guaranteed. Next slide, please.

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>> I can take any questions council may

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» I can take any questions council may

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have.

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>> Perfect timing. Thank you, Scott.

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» Perfect timing. Thank you, Scott.

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Questions from council.

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» Councelor Bruntton.

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>> Thank you, Mayor Martin. Just very

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» Thank you, Mayor Martin. Just very

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quickly, uh Scott, is this uh a slab on

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grade or is there a basement for

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utilities? How does it work?

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>> I believe there is a Yes, there will be

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» I believe there is a Yes, there will be

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a basement. I believe the storage will

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be in the basement, utilities, that type

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of thing in the basement.

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>> Okay. Thank you,

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» Okay. Thank you,

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>> Councelor Duffy.

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» Councelor Duffy.

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>> Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,

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» Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,

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Scott, thanks for your work on this and

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to your client. I appreciate that uh the

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concerns of the residents were really,

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for the most part, from what I can see,

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um listened to. So, I I appreciate and

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respect that. I'm curious on the I think

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I'm looking at the norththeast side. So

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a butting sort of there's a there's a

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row of homes there on Donley. Is there I

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think it's in purple. And sorry, I've

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just got my iPad back cuz it was

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acting up. Is there any landscape buffer

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along there?

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>> So both the the north and the eastern uh

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» So both the the north and the eastern uh

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property lines um will require the solid

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wood fence. Um generally I think it's uh

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the 3 m or 2 meter high fence whatever

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the site plan requirements are. So it's

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a solid wood fence. There can be also

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other landscaping for bushes things like

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that to reduce any sort of that impact

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of that reduction from the the 3 m to

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the 2 m for the uh distance from the

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parking. Um so that can be in included

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in the uh site plan requirements to make

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sure we're reducing any of those uh

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impacts um from having that reduction

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from uh 3 to 2 m. Okay, I think that's

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all I have. Thank you.

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>> Did I miss anyone online?

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» Did I miss anyone online?

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Oh, I think we're we're good. Thanks,

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Scott. Let's receive all three

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deputations as information at once, if

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that's okay, and we'll move along to

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Margaret Trucker, which is item 7.2 on

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our agenda. Same item of discussion.

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Uh 215 Victoria Street, Simco, welcome.

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You have five minutes. I can let you

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know when you have one minute remaining,

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but I think last time you were right on

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schedule, so take it away.

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Okay, mayor and council, I appreciate

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the opportunity to speak once again. In

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the meeting on October 8th, 2025, the

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major concerns mentioned were traffic,

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on-site parking, and where the entrance

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and exit would be, and children walking

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to and from school. Um, some of these

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issues seem to have been addressed and

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it was stated that water and sewer could

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handle this extra build and um, have all

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the bylaws now been met such as distance

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from the road and line of sight. Um,

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other concerns that I have are several.

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In 2024, the provincial government put

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in place the get it done act where they

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wanted one and a half million homes

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built by 2031.

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This seems to place

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uh

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stress on the um building that the

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municipal planning boards have to

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approve. Um has an assessment been done

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to determine the need for this type of

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housing? Is all of the building in the

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county meant to reach the expectation of

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the provincial government in spite of

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what we want? If this build is approved,

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we do not know how long it would take.

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During construction, the locals would be

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coping with heavy vehicle traffic,

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noise, dust, and dirt. It's a common

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thing in a building site, but a privacy

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fence was mentioned previously, but who

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would benefit? The residents on the

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first floor and closest neighbors. There

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would be no privacy for others who would

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have exposure to residents of the

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midrise. The outside enjoyment of our

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properties could be affected during and

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after the build. Is it an unknown as to

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what happens to property values when an

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apartment building is built in a low

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density community?

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Will homes close to the build be

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overshadowed or will it be situated on

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the property to minimize that? And it

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seems that that's been taken into

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consideration.

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This is one build, but others are in the

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works. How will all of these builds

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affect our community? Adding this build

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into the mix can place further strain on

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our hospital, which already struggles to

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meet the needs of the current

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population. Can our schools accommodate

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more children? And how many more

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emergency medical service personnel,

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firemen, and policemen would we need?

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Considering the lack of industry or jobs

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in the county, would it be safe to

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assume there would be more commuters on

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already crowded highways?

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Given that this is a low density area, I

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still don't believe that this is an

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appropriate location for the build in

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spite of the changes that have been

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made. It simply would not fit in. And no

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one making the decisions about this

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lives or would be affected by that

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build. And the local people who are

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right there on the spot would be when

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it's in construction and after. Thank

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you for your time.

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>> Thank you for your deputation. Are there

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» Thank you for your deputation. Are there

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any questions for Margaret?

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No, that's okay. Not seeing any.

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Thank you for coming. And now we have

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Allan. Allan, welcome. You have five

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minutes for your deputation. There's a

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button on the right hand side. You can

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turn the microphone on and I will let

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you know when you have one minute

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remaining.

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Thank you to the mayor and council for

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allowing me to have a moment to speak.

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I just wanted to make some references.

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The one is the map that is no longer up

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on the screen. The garbage extends

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beyond the parking lot within a meter

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and a half of the sidewalk.

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That's very concerning for me. How do

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you buffer the odors? and it becomes a

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little thing that you can hide behind at

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night for predators or whatever because

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it's now a disturbance in the line of

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sight going down the street.

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Uh

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in the application it references three

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lot lines are on the street. Now it

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appears to be basically a square

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property and they're counting the little

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curve in the corner as a lot line to say

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three are on the street. But two of the

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lot lines do uh the long lot lines exist

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next to residential homes. And the fact

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that when you say you're trying to meet

544
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,880
all the codes, you have to have an

545
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,200
exemption for the floor ratio because

546
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,039
you want it a little higher. You have to

547
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,520
have a exemption on the frontage because

548
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600
it's going to be a little lower. then

549
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,520
you want an exemption on uh

550
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,720
like it keeps going and I don't feel

551
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,960
that's meeting the code. You set these

552
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,880
codes and everybody else built by them.

553
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Now those people might want to sell

554
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,360
their home. Is their value going to be

555
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,279
impacted by the fact you've allowed

556
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,559
others to come in with a lesser code,

557
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,960
build a little cheaper, and then they're

558
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,840
going to compete against you in your uh

559
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,640
dwelling when you want to sell it.

560
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,240
The next thing is, it's been mentioned

561
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,400
numerous times, at one point it's a

562
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,039
dwelling, one point it's a condo, one

563
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:51,360
point it's apartments. I'd really like

564
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:54,320
clarification as to what it is

565
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,279
specifically.

566
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:00,240
And the high traffic at Victoria and

567
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,279
Donley is amplified by the fact there's

568
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,679
a lot of student traffic both going to

569
00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:08,720
Fanshaw and going to the school, the

570
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,559
local school. And that has become

571
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:15,600
uh a safety issue there. And I don't see

572
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840
how adding another

573
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,120
65 cars in the mix at that close to the

574
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,679
intersection is a very positive thing as

575
00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:25,120
well.

576
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,600
So, I'd really like some consideration

577
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,640
to try and meet the bar rather than just

578
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,799
say we're close to the bar, so let's

579
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:34,559
proceed.

580
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,360
And I thank you for your time.

581
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:38,720
Thank you very much for coming. Are

582
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,230
there any questions for Mr. McBride?

583
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,919
Seeing none. Okay. Oh, sorry, Council

584
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:49,909
Michelle and then Dothy.

585
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:54,870
» Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um

586
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,039
sir, thank you very much for for coming

587
00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:01,520
uh and making your deputation. Um

588
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,880
when when you were asking for

589
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,159
clarification on what it is exactly that

590
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:11,360
these you described condos, apartments,

591
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,480
which is it um have have you not

592
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,559
received an answer to that question?

593
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,310
>> No, that's why I just asked it.

594
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:18,320
» No, that's why I just asked it.

595
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,070
>> Okay. So, I would like with your

596
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:20,080
» Okay. So, I would like with your

597
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,159
permission to ask staff if Madame Mayor

598
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:24,400
will allow me, can we get clarification

599
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,200
on exactly what these units are?

600
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,549
>> We're going to go into the staff report

601
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:28,559
» We're going to go into the staff report

602
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,320
right after uh we've received the

603
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,159
deputation. So, I will I'll I'll return

604
00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:34,640
to you with that. Councelor Deathy,

605
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,830
>> thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you, Mr.

606
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:35,840
» thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you, Mr.

607
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,440
Ride, thank you for for being here and

608
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,039
for sharing your thoughts. Um, can I

609
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:41,200
just get a little bit more clarification

610
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,679
on the issue that you raised around the

611
00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:44,880
gar the placement of the garbage

612
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,679
collection?

613
00:27:45,679 --> 00:27:46,070
>> Yes.

614
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:46,080
» Yes.

615
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,590
>> I I'm sorry I didn't follow all the way.

616
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:47,600
» I I'm sorry I didn't follow all the way.

617
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,159
So

618
00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:51,029
>> if you if the map could come back up,

619
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:51,039
» if you if the map could come back up,

620
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:55,600
it's on it's on Donley and it's at the

621
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,000
end of the parking lot which they wants

622
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,919
an allowance to be closer to the street

623
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:02,320
than it should be. And then the garbage

624
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,360
dumpsters stick out further so that they

625
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,679
look to be about 1 and a half meters

626
00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:10,240
from the sidewalk and they're an

627
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,559
extension beyond the parking. And I

628
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,080
don't I think they should be contained

629
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,880
within

630
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,200
I think that there's numerous problems

631
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,039
from having something out there and how

632
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,480
is it going to be bordered with some

633
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,279
green with just a fence? Is it going to

634
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,840
be something somebody can hide behind?

635
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,640
Uh is it going to have odors? I find

636
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,279
numerous concerns about that.

637
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,510
>> Okay. Thank you.

638
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:37,520
» Okay. Thank you.

639
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,350
>> Okay. I'm not seeing any other hands.

640
00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:39,360
» Okay. I'm not seeing any other hands.

641
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,279
So, thank you Mr. McBride for joining

642
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,440
us. A mover and a second are pleased to

643
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,480
receive all three deputations. Item 7.1,

644
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,600
7.2, and 7.3 as information. Moved by

645
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,039
councelor Huffman, seconded by councelor

646
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:54,399
Van Andrishi. All in favor? That's

647
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:58,080
carried. We will move along to the staff

648
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,559
report and maybe we can also call on

649
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,159
Scott to supplement um questions and

650
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:07,039
answers that staff might not have if if

651
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,559
council's okay with that. A little bit

652
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:10,880
of a tag team approach. So we are on

653
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
agenda item 12.1.1 which is staff report

654
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,750
CDS25061.

655
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,919
» Thank you. Good afternoon madame mayor

656
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:24,159
and council members. Uh through the

657
00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:26,320
chair I have chopped out a little bit of

658
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,760
my report now that we've brought it

659
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,279
forward to immediately follow the

660
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:32,080
deputation to try and avoid duplication.

661
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,000
Um this file was first seen at public

662
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,320
hearing committee meeting on October 8th

663
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,000
2025.

664
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Uh the applicant has proposed a zoning

665
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,760
bylaw amendment to change use of the

666
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,399
land from neighborhood commercial to

667
00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:46,799
urban residential type 5 uh with an

668
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,480
amended special provision 14.729

669
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,240
to facilitate the construction of a

670
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,000
four-story apartment complex and

671
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,120
associated parking. Um just to

672
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,320
understand the uh nature of the building

673
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,320
and to come to councelor Michelle's

674
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,919
question um it is I mean the only

675
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:07,360
difference between an apartment and a

676
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,559
condo is a matter of ownership. It's not

677
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,240
there is no real difference at this

678
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,240
stage and that is something that can be

679
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,600
determined later down the road. Um the

680
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,440
associated bylaw would change the use of

681
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,880
the land um with a special provision

682
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,200
14729

683
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,799
to amend the height limit of the

684
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,960
building to a maximum of four stories

685
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,880
and grant relief in terms of parking

686
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,000
distance vehicles can be parked. Um it

687
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,919
would no longer include any relief for

688
00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:38,159
parking or for floor area ratio as was

689
00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:41,440
previously seen at public hearing.

690
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,440
Uh given this, it is the proposed

691
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,080
opinion of staff that applications at

692
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,559
NPL 2025146

693
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,399
be approved as outlined in staff

694
00:30:50,399 --> 00:30:54,389
recommendation report CDS25061.

695
00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:56,720
Thank you. I'm here for any questions.

696
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,549
>> We'll open it up for questions, but just

697
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:58,559
» We'll open it up for questions, but just

698
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,600
for clarity, I heard you just say

699
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,840
the height limit meets, the parking

700
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,600
relief is no longer requested, and the

701
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,440
floor ratio is is met. So, as per Mr.

702
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,240
McBride's can you uh comments where it's

703
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,919
not meeting the bylaw. Can you just

704
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:16,240
please clarify for the public what the

705
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,399
special provision request is? That's the

706
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:22,000
only item that doesn't meet. Correct.

707
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,750
>> Through the mayor. That's correct. Um so

708
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:25,760
» Through the mayor. That's correct. Um so

709
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,360
the special provision is uh basically

710
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640
for distance away from the building that

711
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,080
vehicles can park. Um that is in the

712
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,279
bylaw. It's required to be 3 m. Um and

713
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,120
certainly on the I believe north side of

714
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600
the building um it's only going to be 2

715
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,679
m at least at this time in the

716
00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:48,799
indicative site plan. Um but again

717
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,480
that's the sort of thing that will get

718
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,919
those details will be hammered out of

719
00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:54,480
the time but that is the that's the only

720
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,120
change.

721
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,269
>> Thank you very much councelor Michelle.

722
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:57,279
» Thank you very much councelor Michelle.

723
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:00,240
Uh the comments on ownership and and so

724
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,559
on that can fluctuate and change. Is

725
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:04,159
that sufficient for you or do you wish

726
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:06,320
to

727
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,559
ask something else?

728
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,399
Yeah, thank you, Madame Mayor. Yeah, I

729
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:12,640
just I guess I wouldn't mind maybe just

730
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200
a little explanation if staff could just

731
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,279
provide um how how does ownership

732
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,000
distinguish between a condo and an

733
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,640
apartment? Are are are we ask talking

734
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,159
about rentals or is there some other

735
00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:28,960
criteria?

736
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,789
>> Go over to Miss Call um through the

737
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:30,799
» Go over to Miss Call um through the

738
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,200
mayor to counselor Michelle. So, a condo

739
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,000
can be is just um a type of ownership.

740
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,440
It can be any type of building. So we

741
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,159
have condo, town houses, apartments. The

742
00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:41,760
actual physical structure is an

743
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,679
apartment building. I believe it's

744
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:45,440
planned to be rental

745
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,310
>> or is this not determined yet?

746
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:48,320
» or is this not determined yet?

747
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,470
>> I don't know.

748
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:50,480
» I don't know.

749
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,470
>> But physically it will be an apartment

750
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:52,480
» But physically it will be an apartment

751
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,640
building. Condo will just determine

752
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,399
whether each unit is owned separately or

753
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:57,840
if the whole building's owned by one

754
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,870
person.

755
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,200
» Uh thank you. Uh so through the mayor to

756
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,279
councelor Michelle. So yes, from a from

757
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,760
the ownership group standpoint, um

758
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,360
they're right now obviously in the

759
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,519
initial um land use approvals, um really

760
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,519
what's going to drive uh whether it's

761
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,440
condo or rental will really be market

762
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,960
conditions at the time of construction,

763
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,919
which um depending on how how long site

764
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:27,600
plan takes if there's no market.

765
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600
So it could be 3 years from now that

766
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,200
right now maybe apartments make sense,

767
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,720
maybe in 3 years condo makes sense,

768
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,039
maybe it's the opposite. So, um,

769
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:36,960
following site plan approval is when

770
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,120
they would have to decide if they wanted

771
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,600
to do, uh, a condominium because then

772
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,200
another an additional application is

773
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,399
required to folk county um, for a condo

774
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:48,720
a condominium uh, application which then

775
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,320
allows units to be registered with the

776
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,880
land registry office. If it was just

777
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
apartments following site plan approval,

778
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,159
it would be under one ownership,

779
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:57,679
obviously the ownership group of the

780
00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:00,399
apartment complex. Um, so market

781
00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:02,559
conditions is the answer and that'll be

782
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:04,480
when they're done the site plan uh

783
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,159
approvals process when that decision

784
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:09,359
will will likely be made. Uh, hopefully

785
00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:12,320
that answers the question.

786
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,389
>> Thank you.

787
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:14,399
» Thank you.

788
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:17,119
Uh, madame mayor, we do uh we did note

789
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,839
uh just in the bylaw. So, uh the only

790
00:34:19,839 --> 00:34:21,679
parking requirement we did notice just

791
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,879
in the uh implementing bylaw. Um it does

792
00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:27,440
say uh no parking shall be located

793
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,599
closer than 3 mters from any interior

794
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,679
lot line. Uh as shown on the site plan,

795
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,560
we're showing 2 meters um rather than

796
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,560
three. Three is the bylaw requirement.

797
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:37,919
So just there is a typo in the

798
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:39,919
implementing bylaw that does need to be

799
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:43,040
fixed. Um, we are showing as per our

800
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,879
request the the 2 m setback from the

801
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:47,760
interior lot line. And if council does

802
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520
want information on the garbage, I'm

803
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,359
happy to answer.

804
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:52,629
>> Sure. While you're up here, go for

805
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:52,639
» Sure. While you're up here, go for

806
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,069
>> While I'm up here, I'll use I'll use the

807
00:34:54,069 --> 00:34:54,079
» While I'm up here, I'll use I'll use the

808
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,000
opportunity. So, uh, the garbages

809
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,680
themselves, uh, Yep. There's no setback

810
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680
from property lines. Um, they will be

811
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,520
the mole system. If you've ever seen

812
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,119
those, they're the the they're not the

813
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,280
big dumpsters that roll in and out.

814
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,880
They're the mole lock system that sits

815
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200
deeper into the ground. Um they're those

816
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,359
round ones that have those dome shape um

817
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:14,160
that seal tightly. Um then they come in,

818
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640
the garbage truck cranes them out um and

819
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,839
dumps them in. Um they are uh they were

820
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:22,480
designed um for that reduce smell,

821
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,119
reduce the eyesore of a closed in area

822
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:27,760
with um fences because they don't need

823
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,720
to be closed in generally by fencing. Um

824
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,560
so it's that mo system. I think they're

825
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
at the Tim Hortons uh by the bridge. if

826
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,560
anybody does want to take a look at what

827
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,440
the mole uh molec looks like. Um so

828
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,200
they're just they go vertically into the

829
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,440
ground a lot deeper um take a take up

830
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520
less area and then obviously have a a

831
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,240
much uh firmer ceiling uh lid on them.

832
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,400
Um so that's to help to reduce those

833
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,480
concerns with smell and visual appeal

834
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,280
and and things like that. So

835
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,550
>> councelor Deathy, was that going to be

836
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:56,560
» councelor Deathy, was that going to be

837
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,440
your question? Okay, councelor Brenton.

838
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,270
>> Thank you Mayor Martin. question, Scott,

839
00:36:01,270 --> 00:36:01,280
» Thank you Mayor Martin. question, Scott,

840
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,680
is uh is there some kind of storm water

841
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,160
storage on site that you're I assume

842
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,520
you're looking at?

843
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,910
>> Yes. So, uh through the mayor, um yes.

844
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:09,920
» Yes. So, uh through the mayor, um yes.

845
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Uh so there will be an underground

846
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,960
there'll be underground chambers.

847
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,550
>> Um I'm not an engineer and I won't

848
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:14,560
» Um I'm not an engineer and I won't

849
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,760
pretend to be one. Okay.

850
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,670
>> Um but generally on these sites, if you

851
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:17,680
» Um but generally on these sites, if you

852
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,720
don't have a storm water management

853
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,240
pond, you have underground chambers,

854
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,599
storage chambers that the water gets

855
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,760
collected into and then released into

856
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,079
the uh municipal sewer and then taken

857
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,440
wherever it outlets to uh from there. So

858
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,680
the question always gets confusing for

859
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,480
me. It's if it's condominium, they look

860
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,800
after it, but if it's in this case, if

861
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,440
it's rentals, I assume the owner looks

862
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,599
after it. It's all on his property.

863
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:43,910
>> So uh through the mayor. So uh sorry,

864
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:43,920
» So uh through the mayor. So uh sorry,

865
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:44,400
counselor.

866
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,030
>> I don't know if Andrew is that

867
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,640
» I I will happily take the question.

868
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,589
>> Yeah, go ahead, Scott.

869
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:51,599
» Yeah, go ahead, Scott.

870
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,510
>> So from a if it's a condo, if it's a

871
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:53,520
» So from a if it's a condo, if it's a

872
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,960
condo, the condo corporation is

873
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,040
responsible for it. So, all of the

874
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,880
tenants collectively are responsible

875
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,880
through the condo corporation. If it's

876
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,640
rental, then it's the whoever the owner

877
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,800
of the apartment is is responsible for

878
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,640
the on-site uh system.

879
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,230
>> Okay. Thank you.

880
00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:08,240
» Okay. Thank you.

881
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,910
>> Good with that, Mr. Grace. Thanks. Okay.

882
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:11,920
» Good with that, Mr. Grace. Thanks. Okay.

883
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,680
Any other questions for Scott while he's

884
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,400
up here? We can dismiss him again and go

885
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,320
back to the staff report. Thanks, Scott,

886
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,599
for that additional information. That's

887
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:20,240
very helpful.

888
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:20,950
>> Thank you, council.

889
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:20,960
» Thank you, council.

890
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,190
>> Any other questions for our staff on the

891
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:23,200
» Any other questions for our staff on the

892
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,550
staff report?

893
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
I think the only thing that hasn't been

894
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,880
addressed,

895
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,119
we spoke at the public hearing meeting

896
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,280
and had engineering comments on the

897
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,640
record about traffic volumes and safety.

898
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,880
The garbage has now been addressed. I

899
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,720
think it's just um Margaret's comments.

900
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:51,440
So, uh maybe I can pose this one to

901
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,480
staff. the 1.5

902
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,560
million homes from the government maybe

903
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,880
through to Miss Call. Do you feel

904
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,200
stressed to approve housing units

905
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,359
inappropriately to meet 1.5 million

906
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:04,720
homes?

907
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,030
>> Um to the mayor, no, I don't feel

908
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:07,040
» Um to the mayor, no, I don't feel

909
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,640
stressed about it. I think in this

910
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,240
circumstance, staff are satisfied

911
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:11,920
regardless of the provincial direction

912
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,240
that it's an appropriate spot for an

913
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:15,359
apartment building.

914
00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:18,310
>> Okay. Thank you. And

915
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:18,320
» Okay. Thank you. And

916
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,440
um to maybe miss call again, have any

917
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,240
assessments been done specifically in

918
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,640
Norfolk to tell us what type of housing

919
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,119
types we should be driving towards or do

920
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,920
you have any uh information off the top

921
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,160
of your head? Or from a planning

922
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,240
perspective, do you prefer a certain

923
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,400
type of housing? Can you comment on that

924
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,950
for uh Miss Trucker's

925
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,839
» um to the mayor? So, the official plan

926
00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:48,320
does direct us to have a variety of

927
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,000
housing types. Um, this is an and to use

928
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,920
land efficiently. Um, I don't know that

929
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,359
we have anything that says this is what

930
00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:57,040
percent of apartments we need, that type

931
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,560
of thing. But, we don't get a ton of

932
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
apartment proposals. So, we also know

933
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,040
that there's a very low vacancy rate for

934
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,640
rentals in Norfol County. So, that's

935
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,160
another reason we would be supportive of

936
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,400
this. Again, it's very case by case on

937
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,040
what's appropriate in what location. But

938
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,960
um for this circumstance, I think it

939
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,839
kind of checks the box um in terms of

940
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:17,359
higher density in an appropriate

941
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:19,040
location, not too high density,

942
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,560
servicing's available. Um yeah, so we're

943
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,280
supportive.

944
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,710
>> Okay, thanks for that. Last time I

945
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:24,720
» Okay, thanks for that. Last time I

946
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,359
checked, it was 0.4% rental vacancy in

947
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:31,280
Norfol County, which is very, very low.

948
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,560
Um and then lastly,

949
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,960
hospitals provincial, schools

950
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,599
provincial, OP provincial. Not that

951
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,119
we're passing the buck, but um those

952
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,040
aren't factors or contributing parts of

953
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,119
the conversation on the municipal

954
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,599
planning level when we decide about

955
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,440
housing. It would be lovely to have more

956
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,359
resources for all of the above.

957
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:57,920
Certainly in our community, no doubt. Uh

958
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,720
but those are not reasons for council to

959
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:04,000
be able to deny um a housing unit. If we

960
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,760
said we we didn't approve the housing

961
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,280
unit because we felt we didn't have

962
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,079
enough OP resources that would not give

963
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,400
us a leg to stand on in the appeal

964
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,560
process. So I just wanted to comment on

965
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,880
those three items for you. Councelor Van

966
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,480
Passen.

967
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,069
>> Thanks Madam Mayor. Just one other

968
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:20,079
» Thanks Madam Mayor. Just one other

969
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:23,119
little thing. Um, is the agent correct

970
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:26,000
that that is a typo in the bylaw on the

971
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,760
uh 2 meter setback for the parking

972
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,920
spaces?

973
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,599
It is what's on the map right now

974
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:33,190
>> through the mayor to counselor Van

975
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:33,200
» through the mayor to counselor Van

976
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,280
Passin. Uh, yes, it was supposed to both

977
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,119
say there's two setback reliefs in there

978
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:38,560
and they were both supposed to say two.

979
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,320
So, I did confirm with Scott and I've

980
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,599
asked Lincoln to correct that for us.

981
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,349
>> Just make sure the clerk gets it

982
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:45,359
» Just make sure the clerk gets it

983
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:47,200
converted when we do the bylaws before

984
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,119
the end of the meeting.

985
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,109
>> Okay. All right. Thank you very much

986
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:51,119
» Okay. All right. Thank you very much

987
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,200
everyone. Uh so there is a staff

988
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,520
recommendation before council. Does

989
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,359
someone wish to move that or propose an

990
00:40:57,359 --> 00:40:59,520
alternative?

991
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Councelor Columbus.

992
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,910
>> So moved.

993
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:01,920
» So moved.

994
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,109
>> Thank you very much. Is there a

995
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:03,119
» Thank you very much. Is there a

996
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:04,800
seconder?

997
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,720
Councelor Van Passen. Any debate or

998
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,640
discussion on the topic? Councelor

999
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,079
Columbus, the floor is yours. Just

1000
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,000
wanted to say at the October 8th public

1001
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,760
hearing committee meeting, I did

1002
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,640
question Scott about reducing the number

1003
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,599
of floors from five to four and he had

1004
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,280
indicated that it may not be a viable

1005
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,760
project. So I'm really happy to see that

1006
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,440
this is happening and it's relieved a

1007
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,520
lot of the other criteria that had to be

1008
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,480
met.

1009
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:28,870
>> Thank you.

1010
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:28,880
» Thank you.

1011
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,589
>> Agreed. Thank you. Anyone on the screen

1012
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:31,599
» Agreed. Thank you. Anyone on the screen

1013
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,319
wish to debate?

1014
00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:36,079
Okay, I'm going to call the question.

1015
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,800
All in favor?

1016
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:45,670
That's carried unanimously. Thank you.

1017
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Next, uh we don't do not have any

1018
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,839
presentations on our agenda, so we'll

1019
00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:52,400
move along to approval of the minutes.

1020
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,560
First up is item 9.1, which is the

1021
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,240
council meeting minutes of December

1022
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,680
16th, 2025.

1023
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,480
Moved by

1024
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,760
Councelor Bruntton and seconded by

1025
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,480
councelor Huffman. All in favor?

1026
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,960
carried reports of committee of the

1027
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,760
whole 10.1 is the council and committee

1028
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,960
meeting minutes of January 13th and 10.2

1029
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Two is the budget committee meeting

1030
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,119
minutes November 20th, 2025.

1031
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,599
Mover and a seconder, please. Councelor

1032
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:27,839
Michelle and councelor Barry. All in

1033
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:30,560
favor?

1034
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,160
Carried.

1035
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Advisory committee meeting minutes

1036
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,079
before you. We have quite a few. Uh does

1037
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:45,510
anyone wish to speak to any of them?

1038
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:54,950
Okay. Okay. 11.1 through to 11.7.

1039
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,720
All right. Is there a mover and a

1040
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,599
seconder to receive all of the above as

1041
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:01,359
information? Councelor Van Andrishi and

1042
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:06,630
Barry move. All in favor?

1043
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,040
Carried. Any opposed? Nope. We're good.

1044
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Staff reports and discussions again. So

1045
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,640
nothing under community and development

1046
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,520
services uh corporate services. will

1047
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,119
move right along to staff report

1048
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:19,520
CS260001

1049
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,599
over to Mr. Fleming to give us our

1050
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,839
update on the water and wastewater

1051
00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:34,950
collection policy and program update.

1052
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,200
Uh good afternoon council. Um, so I'm

1053
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,520
just here today to speak on our water

1054
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,920
and wastewater uh collection policy

1055
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,839
again at the committee meeting uh two

1056
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:47,040
weeks ago on January 13th. Uh committee

1057
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,560
deferred report CS26-001

1058
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,839
uh looking for more information

1059
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:54,800
particularly around our user fees that

1060
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,319
were estimated for the purposes of our

1061
00:43:56,319 --> 00:43:58,800
rears collection notices. As to

1062
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,040
supplement the discussion today, I we

1063
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,359
have prepared an additional memo as

1064
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:05,680
included as part of this agenda uh which

1065
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,079
provides a bit more information on that.

1066
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,000
Uh based on council or committee's

1067
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,160
direction, uh staff undertook a more

1068
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,240
wholesome review of an estimated uh fees

1069
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,800
uh based on a bit more of a deep dive

1070
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,640
into them. Uh table one of our

1071
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,680
supplemental memo summarizes the fees

1072
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,280
that were calculated to be a cost

1073
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,240
recovery basis. Uh you'll note that in

1074
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,599
our the original report, the fee for the

1075
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,400
6-day reminder uh was set at uh or

1076
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,680
estimate of $5. Uh revised it's at $4.28

1077
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,760
and the other two for the 30 and 45day

1078
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,680
have been revised down from $10 to

1079
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,480
$6.73.

1080
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,319
I just want to put out a reminder that

1081
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:50,160
these fees are not intended to generate

1082
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,000
money, but they are to ensure that those

1083
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,599
that benefit from the services or

1084
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,359
reminder notices are paying for those

1085
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:57,680
services and the costs of those are not

1086
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,599
passed on to other users within the rate

1087
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,319
base. Uh table two within that memo

1088
00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:04,160
provides a bit of a summary in terms of

1089
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,079
if those fees are not charged, what the

1090
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:07,520
impacts would be for the average

1091
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,640
residential rate user. Uh in aggregate

1092
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,920
it would be about $4 annually.

1093
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,680
There was also some discussion at the

1094
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,119
committee meeting as well around the

1095
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,240
paper bill sir charge of $2 per bill.

1096
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,880
Staff are confident that number remains

1097
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,440
uh consistent with what was prepared

1098
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,839
originally. And just for context as

1099
00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:29,920
well, similar to what was are shown in

1100
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,839
table two. Staff also pulled the similar

1101
00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:34,400
number for as presented in table three

1102
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,720
on a basis of 25% of people would be

1103
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,480
signed up for ebilling. the remaining

1104
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,560
75% that receive paper bills, that cost

1105
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,880
would be passed on to the other existing

1106
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,560
rate users uh and result in $5.69

1107
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,119
savings should council adopt a rate for

1108
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,319
that for the average residential

1109
00:45:50,319 --> 00:45:54,720
property. Um we are again uh these are

1110
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:56,400
still estimates these rates and they

1111
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,839
won't be finalized until presented as

1112
00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:59,760
part of the 2027

1113
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,480
uh user fee bylaw. Uh we're looking

1114
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,200
forward to uh bringing some more

1115
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,040
information back at that at a later date

1116
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,720
uh once that becomes available and

1117
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,079
looking forward to having the discussion

1118
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:12,720
today to hopefully uh get this policy

1119
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,200
approved if we can. Uh we are available

1120
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,800
should committee have any questions or

1121
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,240
council have any questions. We're more

1122
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,480
than happy to to dive into it a bit more

1123
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,800
if you there are

1124
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,670
>> questions from council.

1125
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:25,680
» questions from council.

1126
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,319
Councelor Brenton.

1127
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:31,750
>> Thank you Mayor Martin. I I'm um not

1128
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:31,760
» Thank you Mayor Martin. I I'm um not

1129
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,359
sure if this is the place to ask the

1130
00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:34,880
question, but I had a call last week

1131
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,839
from an individual that had a water bill

1132
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:42,160
problem uh with a tenant and I I tried

1133
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,079
to explain to him where this is going,

1134
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,119
but my question uh he indicated there's

1135
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:51,680
an app app available to monitor water

1136
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,359
use in a is that is that are you aware

1137
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:59,910
of that or no?

1138
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:00,960
Mr. Grace.

1139
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,710
>> Yes. Uh certainly. So through the mayor,

1140
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:02,720
» Yes. Uh certainly. So through the mayor,

1141
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,880
yes, there are various apps depending on

1142
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,319
the provider you have for your meter

1143
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:08,880
technology or your billing uh provider.

1144
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,319
Uh we are currently working with our

1145
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:12,000
meter provider, Census, and that is

1146
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,839
something that we will have live uh in

1147
00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:16,160
the near future. It is really intended,

1148
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,920
as you said, to provide people access to

1149
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,680
the real-time water usage, but is to

1150
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,680
avoid having leaks on your property that

1151
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,599
may go undetected. So we hope to roll

1152
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,160
that out sometime uh hopefully by summer

1153
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,839
this year. Um and we'll have some

1154
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:29,200
communications and outreach that go

1155
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,880
along with it so people are aware of how

1156
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,920
to use it.

1157
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,829
>> Okay. And is that part of the the um

1158
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:35,839
» Okay. And is that part of the the um

1159
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:38,960
where the landlord has to get permission

1160
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,040
from the tenant the two of them have to

1161
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,800
agree on that? I assume it's

1162
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,000
confidential if it's the uh if it's the

1163
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,280
tenant to use that app. Am I would that

1164
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,720
make sense?

1165
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,150
>> Uh so through the mayor I think that's

1166
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:52,160
» Uh so through the mayor I think that's

1167
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,520
something we'll have to look at in more

1168
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,560
detail. I haven't thought of the

1169
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,359
logistics around the the tenant landlord

1170
00:47:57,359 --> 00:47:59,680
relationship, but um I'm certainly

1171
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,880
there's something we can work through

1172
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,200
whether it's a sign off to allow access

1173
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,800
or that. We'll we'll certainly explore

1174
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,960
that as part of our roll out.

1175
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,349
>> Well, that's that I I what I understand

1176
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:09,359
» Well, that's that I I what I understand

1177
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:12,560
is we're going to have that uh ability

1178
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,839
of the landlord to deal with the tenant

1179
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:19,520
and keep track of his own uh usage. If

1180
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,040
it's his building, he's paying the bill

1181
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,839
if it doesn't get paid. Correct. Yeah,

1182
00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:25,200
through through the chair. Uh yes, that

1183
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,880
is correct. So under our current system

1184
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,599
for water bills, uh we do have a signoff

1185
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:31,599
process uh with our current provider

1186
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:33,839
where landlords can gain access to

1187
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:35,760
tenant accounts. Uh so that's an

1188
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,400
existing process that I'm sure um could

1189
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,160
be utilized for a similar kind of

1190
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,359
purpose. Um I will say though under our

1191
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:44,960
collection policy that we're proposing

1192
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,480
today, um that's before you the all

1193
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,319
water accounts while the primary owner

1194
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:52,640
will be the property owner. Um so that

1195
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,960
sign off process and releases won't be

1196
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,200
necessary because it'll be um the

1197
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,400
property owner will have that

1198
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,000
information by virtue of being the

1199
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,000
primary account holder.

1200
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,069
>> Okay. I thank you

1201
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:04,079
» Okay. I thank you

1202
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,950
>> councelor Columbus.

1203
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:06,960
» councelor Columbus.

1204
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,510
>> Thank you madam mayor and uh I still

1205
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:09,520
» Thank you madam mayor and uh I still

1206
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,880
have a concern with respect to the

1207
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,160
bimonthly billing. I just think that

1208
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,480
going two months is going to be too

1209
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,240
difficult for a lot of families, large

1210
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:21,520
families, pensionable seniors.

1211
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,559
And uh I don't know how everybody else

1212
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,960
feels about it, but I just think it's I

1213
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,040
know you can do uh e billilling and e

1214
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,599
payments, but a lot of people in our

1215
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:32,880
county are not familiar with that

1216
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,559
process.

1217
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:36,240
Just a quick reminder, councelor Huffman

1218
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,400
raised it last time, but the uh system

1219
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,319
does have the equal billing in it, so it

1220
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:43,760
will be consistent and and predictable,

1221
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,760
I suppose.

1222
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,839
Any other questions for staff at this

1223
00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:52,640
point in time, councelor Barry.

1224
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,549
>> Uh, excuse me. Thank you, mayor, and

1225
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:54,559
» Uh, excuse me. Thank you, mayor, and

1226
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,880
through you to Rob, I guess. Um, last

1227
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,760
time we had this this come up, we had a

1228
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,680
discussion about arars and and and

1229
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,240
different uh different issues about that

1230
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,520
and and I'm wondering um I just want to

1231
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,880
follow up on that. I'm wondering if we

1232
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,160
know uh or could find out how Norol

1233
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,720
County is in terms of relative to

1234
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:19,359
similar municipalities. Like do we have

1235
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:21,359
more people in our rears, fewer people

1236
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:22,960
in our rears? Are we about the same?

1237
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,400
Like I just I'd just like to have a

1238
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,240
better sense of um where we are on that

1239
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:30,000
um for a couple reasons. one just to

1240
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,160
make sure that our policies and things

1241
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,440
are are correct like relative to uh

1242
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,359
other communities and and you know the

1243
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:39,440
the people that aren't paying or use

1244
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,800
those as reasons to not pay but also um

1245
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,200
you know just as it becomes politicized

1246
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,880
I would like to know you know is is is

1247
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,839
are the 600 accounts in a rears a lot or

1248
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:53,119
a little is the percentage higher or

1249
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:54,800
lower is there any way we can find that

1250
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,520
out please

1251
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,230
>> uh through the chair yes I We did try to

1252
00:51:00,230 --> 00:51:00,240
» uh through the chair yes I We did try to

1253
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,160
take a look and pull some values on that

1254
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,000
from the last discussion two weeks ago

1255
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,000
at CIC. Um it's a bit it's a bit

1256
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,839
challenging I suppose to to pull that

1257
00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:12,480
information just by the nature of how

1258
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,960
water and wastewater works. Um many

1259
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,480
municipalities

1260
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,280
have adopted a tax rolling process for

1261
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,160
counselor and inner rears. Uh so in

1262
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,680
reality their arars are much lower as

1263
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,119
presented on their financial statements

1264
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:28,960
for example than they would be because

1265
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,079
of that tax billing. It's a bit

1266
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:31,200
different I guess what I'm saying than

1267
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,800
from property taxes where property tax

1268
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,280
accounts are the definitive point and

1269
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,040
many municipalities report on where that

1270
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,240
is at year end. Um, but water and

1271
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,400
wastewater just with the how they're

1272
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,319
collected upon with the tax rolling

1273
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:46,400
process after 60 days or 90 days past

1274
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
due, it's a bit of a a challenge I guess

1275
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,760
to to get that information. Um, what I

1276
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,079
can say though is we did take a look at

1277
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:56,640
uh uh what other municipalities do in

1278
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,839
terms of our overall kind of timeline to

1279
00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:01,839
tax rolling and what we've seen is that

1280
00:52:01,839 --> 00:52:03,839
it's fairly consistent across the board.

1281
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:06,160
uh some of the powers have adopted other

1282
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,319
other timelines for tax rolling but I I

1283
00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:10,079
don't think what we're proposing 60 days

1284
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:13,599
is outside of the norm. Uh in aggregate

1285
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,079
annually we tax roll about 900,000 in

1286
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:17,599
water and wastewater rears so about

1287
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:22,720
75,000 a month. um which

1288
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:24,960
I would say as a percentage of rears if

1289
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,960
you look at just that million it'd be

1290
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,920
consistent with what we have uh

1291
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,359
outstanding for our property taxes but

1292
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:33,280
it's not a direct apples to apples

1293
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,119
comparison just by the nature of how the

1294
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:37,359
the aging of the the difference in

1295
00:52:37,359 --> 00:52:41,920
accounts go from period to period.

1296
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,430
>> Okay. No, I understand all that and I

1297
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:43,440
» Okay. No, I understand all that and I

1298
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,359
and I appreciate the update. I just um

1299
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:49,359
Okay, fair enough. And if it occurs, but

1300
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:51,200
if it does occur to you or anyone else

1301
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,720
in finance that there might be a way to

1302
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:54,960
see how Norfolk compares in that regard,

1303
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,559
I would really appreciate that update

1304
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,359
because I don't want this to be that um

1305
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:00,559
you know, obviously it's not good. I

1306
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:01,440
understand it's not good to have any

1307
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,359
inner rears, but I don't want this to be

1308
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:06,720
framed as a particularly bad Norfolk

1309
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,880
issue if we're consistent with other

1310
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,680
municipalities or or even worse if it

1311
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,960
gets misconstrued if we're actually

1312
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040
doing a little better. So that that's um

1313
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,400
that's all I want to get to. So if

1314
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,640
there's ever any metrics or you it comes

1315
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,319
across a way that to report how we're

1316
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:21,359
doing, I'd really appreciate that

1317
00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:23,200
update. Okay. Thank you,

1318
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,109
>> Councelor Huffman.

1319
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:28,880
» Thank you, Mayor Martin through you. I

1320
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,960
was just wondering if Mr. Fleming could

1321
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,119
just recap again on those fees. I know

1322
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:37,359
that the paper bills are going to be $2

1323
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:39,359
and if you could just recap on the fees

1324
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:42,880
again. I just um I didn't quite get the

1325
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,400
the one.

1326
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,150
>> Yeah. Yep. through the through the uh

1327
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:46,160
» Yeah. Yep. through the through the uh

1328
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,839
mayor. Um based on table one, so the

1329
00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:51,119
information contained table one of the

1330
00:53:51,119 --> 00:53:54,240
supplemental memo, the 6day automated

1331
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,319
reminder was originally estimated at $5.

1332
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:02,960
It has been revised down to $4.28.

1333
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,280
The 30-day reminder notice was

1334
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,640
originally estimated at $10. It has been

1335
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,319
a revised estimate of $6.73.

1336
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:14,480
Uh the $6.73

1337
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,640
revised estimate is also applicable for

1338
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,440
the 45day uh transfer to tax rule

1339
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,520
warning.

1340
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,910
>> Okay. Thank you very much. I was just

1341
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:23,920
» Okay. Thank you very much. I was just

1342
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,599
wondering, Mayor Martin, when it comes

1343
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:28,800
time, I'd like to make a motion

1344
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,520
regarding the fees.

1345
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,470
>> Sure. I don't uh believe I have I Oh,

1346
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:34,480
» Sure. I don't uh believe I have I Oh,

1347
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,480
I'll come back to you, Councelor Deathy.

1348
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,910
>> Okay. All right. Thanks.

1349
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:37,920
» Okay. All right. Thanks.

1350
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,230
>> Thank you, Mayor Martino. Can I um Mr.

1351
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:40,240
» Thank you, Mayor Martino. Can I um Mr.

1352
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:41,760
Fleming, thank you for the work that you

1353
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,359
did on this from the last time we saw

1354
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:47,119
it. What goes into the 6day automated

1355
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:50,480
reminder that cost $4.28

1356
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,119
uh through the mayor. Um so we tried to

1357
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:55,280
give a flavor of what kind of goes into

1358
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,599
the the anal or the calculation for each

1359
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,480
of the fees. Um

1360
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,559
so with the six the six day automated

1361
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:03,920
reminder notice, the first thing would

1362
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,760
be the system that would generate the

1363
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,839
phone calls. Um if that's the option we

1364
00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:10,559
decided to go with. Um that would be I

1365
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:12,640
think we estimated at about 5,000 a year

1366
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,400
uh which was previously noted at the

1367
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,400
CIC. Uh with any reminder actions or

1368
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,400
collection actions that we do um there

1369
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,079
is a process that needs to get done in

1370
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:23,440
advance of that. Um that would be

1371
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,319
validating the information um that gets

1372
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:28,400
exported reviewing the aged accounts to

1373
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,240
make sure that we send notices or

1374
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:32,240
contact the individuals that actually

1375
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,880
require to be contacted. Um, and then

1376
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,359
once those con those uh those go out the

1377
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:40,480
door, uh whether um automated or if

1378
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,640
they're email or by mail, um then we

1379
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,400
also have the associated follow-up that

1380
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,640
goes with that. Um, so typically with

1381
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,760
our our reminder notice fees, any of the

1382
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,119
follow-up work with somebody might call

1383
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:56,319
in um and

1384
00:55:56,319 --> 00:55:57,680
uh say that they've paid, there's the

1385
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,040
follow-up work and looking at people's

1386
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:04,000
accounts um and all the uh the post kind

1387
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,280
of work that goes into it. Um in the for

1388
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,359
context in the report itself or the

1389
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:11,920
supplemental memo, we had a look at

1390
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,680
property tax reminder notices. Obviously

1391
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,359
the volume's a bit different um but we

1392
00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:18,880
believe that the work effort would be

1393
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,359
similar uh in comparison just at a much

1394
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:23,200
smaller scale and all the followup and

1395
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,079
balancing and uh it's all factored into

1396
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:29,760
that that cost of $4

1397
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,280
28.

1398
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,319
Thank you for that. I I will confess

1399
00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:37,359
some of the comments around uh basically

1400
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:38,559
reviewing to make sure we've got it

1401
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:40,880
right gives me tiny bit of concern that

1402
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,559
we're doing it after the fact.

1403
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:46,160
Um on in your experience,

1404
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,280
how often is that first reminder all it

1405
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,000
takes?

1406
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,990
>> Um that's that's a great question. Um so

1407
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:54,000
» Um that's that's a great question. Um so

1408
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,000
obviously we don't have a great kind of

1409
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,760
foundation for determining that because

1410
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,799
this is a new new service for us. Um I

1411
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:03,920
would say if we looked at our tax

1412
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,000
reminder notices as a great example u

1413
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,240
because they would follow a similar kind

1414
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:12,240
of timeline. um they are reasonably

1415
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:17,200
effective um in in driving payments. Uh

1416
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,839
we see that uh I said we send about

1417
00:57:19,839 --> 00:57:21,520
5,500

1418
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,079
um for property taxes and that is much

1419
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:25,760
of the work that my team does for the

1420
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,920
following two weeks uh is follow up

1421
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,280
associated with those reminder notices

1422
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,720
and dealing with uh the residence

1423
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,640
inquiries. Um and just by virtue of that

1424
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,440
I I I we do end up clearing a a decent

1425
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,440
amount of a rears just from the initial

1426
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,920
notice itself.

1427
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:51,109
So like 50% of them 25

1428
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:54,480
» I think I would if I was to look at so

1429
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,680
for example um we send reminder notices

1430
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,200
for taxes in November and we had about

1431
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,400
5500 we did it again in January and we

1432
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,920
had reminder notices of about 3,000 uh

1433
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,720
so we cut it in half roughly between

1434
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,270
those two reminder notices.

1435
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,880
Any other questions for staff at this

1436
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,720
point? Councelor Bruntton.

1437
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,190
>> Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um, I'm trying

1438
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:21,200
» Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um, I'm trying

1439
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,040
to get a handle on something here. Uh,

1440
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,960
the you say on a given year 900,000 is

1441
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,280
about the value of a rears for water.

1442
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,119
Am I am I right on that

1443
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:34,870
>> through the chair? That is the rear

1444
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:34,880
» through the chair? That is the rear

1445
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,640
amounts are transferred to property

1446
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,839
taxes 900,000.

1447
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:39,510
>> Okay. And that's that's progressive over

1448
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:39,520
» Okay. And that's that's progressive over

1449
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,599
a 12-month period, I take to get to

1450
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:44,400
that, right? How quick does the 1 and

1451
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,559
a4% kick in on the on a on a delinquent

1452
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:49,760
water bill?

1453
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,069
>> Uh through the mayor, the interest would

1454
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:52,079
» Uh through the mayor, the interest would

1455
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:53,599
start be charged on the first day of

1456
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:56,000
default, similar to how taxes are

1457
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,040
operating.

1458
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,910
>> Okay. So, does that interest you make uh

1459
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:01,920
» Okay. So, does that interest you make uh

1460
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,680
1 and a4%

1461
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,680
does it get credited back to the rate

1462
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,440
budget or does it stay in the taxes tax

1463
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,280
I guess the levy budget if I could use

1464
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,480
that word?

1465
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,349
>> What happens to it?

1466
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:13,359
» What happens to it?

1467
00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:15,910
>> Yeah. through the mayor. Uh any interest

1468
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:15,920
» Yeah. through the mayor. Uh any interest

1469
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,000
that would be generated from water and

1470
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,880
wastewater past due amounts u would be

1471
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,960
factored into the rate budget until such

1472
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,240
time that they're transferred to the

1473
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,799
property tax levy or the property tax

1474
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:28,160
account.

1475
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,549
>> I realize but that's what I'm sooner or

1476
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:30,559
» I realize but that's what I'm sooner or

1477
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,480
later that somebody comes to pay that

1478
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,839
tax bill which could include a portion

1479
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:38,960
of the the water bill. Correct.

1480
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,230
>> Uh through the mayor that that would be

1481
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:40,240
» Uh through the mayor that that would be

1482
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:40,799
correct. Yes.

1483
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:43,589
>> Okay. So does that credit back then to

1484
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:43,599
» Okay. So does that credit back then to

1485
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:45,280
the rate like I guess it's very

1486
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,839
difficult to keep track of but does that

1487
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:52,480
inch inch and a quarter one and a4%

1488
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,960
does it all get credited back to the to

1489
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,200
the water bill uh through the mayor uh

1490
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,520
no it would not uh similar to other

1491
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,359
items that would get transferred to the

1492
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:03,760
tax role of a property once it gets

1493
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:04,960
transferred it becomes the

1494
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,680
responsibility of individuals that are

1495
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,319
funded by the tax base to collect that

1496
01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:13,280
outstanding amount uh similar to is now

1497
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,880
u with water and wastewater rers once

1498
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,319
they're added um it's tax collection

1499
01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:20,160
staff would be responsible for ensuring

1500
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,240
those amounts are collected uh and

1501
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,240
that's similar for any other item that

1502
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,200
gets whether it's accounts receivable or

1503
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,200
um

1504
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,150
>> that's a I can if I can say it's a bit

1505
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:32,160
» that's a I can if I can say it's a bit

1506
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,760
of a bonus to the uh taxpayer

1507
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:40,000
taxpayer not the rateayer

1508
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,760
thank Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1509
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,750
>> Councelor Huffman, you want to provide

1510
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:43,760
» Councelor Huffman, you want to provide

1511
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,799
some direction to staff?

1512
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:49,430
>> Um, yes. Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um,

1513
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:49,440
» Um, yes. Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um,

1514
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,079
I'm just I I'm going back to the

1515
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:55,280
original intent of bringing this in

1516
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,880
house and it was from the mayor's

1517
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,079
affordability roundt. So, the consensus

1518
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:02,400
was being how can we make things more

1519
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,960
affordable for people in Norfolk. So

1520
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,880
obviously it's been proven to bring it

1521
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,520
inhouse does provide a significant

1522
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,240
savings but however I I know I've

1523
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,720
mentioned this before. It costs a lot of

1524
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,920
money to not have a lot of money and and

1525
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,160
I don't want to

1526
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,079
put more burden on those that are

1527
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:23,760
already struggling. So, I would like to

1528
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,880
propose a motion that the first um

1529
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,040
contact made with um the rateayer would

1530
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,880
be $2 and the next two notices would be

1531
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,799
$5.

1532
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:38,720
That is my motion.

1533
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,630
>> Okay, that's on the floor. Is there a

1534
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:40,640
» Okay, that's on the floor. Is there a

1535
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,910
seconder for that?

1536
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:46,640
» Okay.

1537
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,670
>> Okay. See,

1538
01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:49,680
» Okay. See,

1539
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,319
Council Michelle is seconding. Okay.

1540
01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:55,280
debate and discussion on that. Councelor

1541
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,079
Barry.

1542
01:01:58,079 --> 01:01:59,829
>> Yeah, excuse me. Thanks, Councelor

1543
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:59,839
» Yeah, excuse me. Thanks, Councelor

1544
01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:01,200
Huffman for doing that. I was thinking

1545
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,599
of something similar, but not quite

1546
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:07,440
that. Um I I will support this

1547
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,520
in theory, but I you know, if I can make

1548
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,520
a suggestion um just for maybe a

1549
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,040
potential change if everybody likes it.

1550
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,880
Maybe the first one's free, but we jack

1551
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,920
those second two back up to 10. So this

1552
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,960
the first one is, you know,

1553
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,520
just a reminder, here's your freebie.

1554
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,440
Next one is is is more substantial. That

1555
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,799
way they they don't get hit right away,

1556
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:28,720
but they they get that uh friendly free

1557
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,640
reminder. So anyways, either way, I'll I

1558
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,000
I'll probably support something like

1559
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,599
this. I just don't know if I I I will go

1560
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:35,520
with these amounts yet.

1561
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:36,950
>> Okay.

1562
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:36,960
» Okay.

1563
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,349
>> Is that uh that amendment suitable,

1564
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:39,359
» Is that uh that amendment suitable,

1565
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:41,119
Councelor Huffman,

1566
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:43,750
>> or want to stick with your direction?

1567
01:02:43,750 --> 01:02:43,760
» or want to stick with your direction?

1568
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,829
>> Well, I'm still thinking that that 10 is

1569
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:45,839
» Well, I'm still thinking that that 10 is

1570
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:48,480
high. Um,

1571
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,440
I mean that that could be I I just think

1572
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,520
it's high. I I want to stick with the

1573
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,880
five for the following two. I that's

1574
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,200
where I'm I'm sticking with that. Feel

1575
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,079
like I'm on a game shop.

1576
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:02,150
>> We'll stick with your motion.

1577
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:02,160
» We'll stick with your motion.

1578
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,349
>> Okay. Thank you.

1579
01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:03,359
» Okay. Thank you.

1580
01:03:03,359 --> 01:03:06,069
>> Okay,

1581
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:06,079
» Okay,

1582
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:08,950
>> Council Shelly debate

1583
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:08,960
» Council Shelly debate

1584
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,750
>> then. Council.

1585
01:03:09,750 --> 01:03:09,760
» then. Council.

1586
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,430
>> Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, I just want to

1587
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:11,440
» Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, I just want to

1588
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,760
get maybe clarification from the mover.

1589
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,520
Um,

1590
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,240
are we Oh, I see it's on the screen now.

1591
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,480
Okay,

1592
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:20,720
so

1593
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,309
>> we're sticking with the original motion.

1594
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:22,319
» we're sticking with the original motion.

1595
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:23,359
No changes.

1596
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:25,750
>> Okay, so it was

1597
01:03:25,750 --> 01:03:25,760
» Okay, so it was

1598
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,520
$2 and then fives. Okay, thank you.

1599
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:36,789
>> Councelor Van Andrei debate. Go ahead.

1600
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:41,270
» You are muted.

1601
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,280
I'm so sorry. Um I have it on my phone

1602
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,520
here. I can't get it on my laptop. So

1603
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,839
obviously it is very small. So I'd like

1604
01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:52,079
clarification that the first is two and

1605
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,039
the next is five and five. Is that what

1606
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:55,680
I heard?

1607
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,470
>> That is correct.

1608
01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:56,480
» That is correct.

1609
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,190
>> Yes.

1610
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:57,200
» Yes.

1611
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,950
>> Okay. I will support that then. Thank

1612
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:58,960
» Okay. I will support that then. Thank

1613
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,839
you. Um I I I would have gone with the

1614
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:05,520
first one as um a freebie as well as a

1615
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,880
reminder and then I would have gone with

1616
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,039
the five and five. But um this is this

1617
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:11,440
is fine here. Two is fine. Councelor

1618
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,039
Death.

1619
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:14,390
>> Uh, thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,

1620
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:14,400
» Uh, thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,

1621
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,599
Councelor Huffman, I appreciate the

1622
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:17,520
intent of the motion. Um, and overall,

1623
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,440
I'm not necessarily overly averse.

1624
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,799
However, um, I my concern when we

1625
01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:24,240
discussed it last was that I think we're

1626
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,000
nickeling diamond nickel and dimming

1627
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,319
people. Uh, and I think the first

1628
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:31,359
contact at 6 days, uh, even if it is $2

1629
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:36,160
is silly. Um, on on this topic, I can

1630
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,119
see that it would be different for

1631
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:38,880
property tax, but on water and

1632
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,880
wastewater, not so much. So, I'm not

1633
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,160
going to support it because I think I'm

1634
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,359
hearing around the table that there's

1635
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:45,760
maybe some uh inclination for a change

1636
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,559
on that part.

1637
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:50,950
>> Councelor Van Passen.

1638
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:50,960
» Councelor Van Passen.

1639
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,870
>> Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, when I

1640
01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:52,880
» Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, when I

1641
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,119
looked at even the memo, supplementary

1642
01:04:55,119 --> 01:04:58,640
memo, it's called an automated reminder.

1643
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,839
Um, that's cost of doing business to

1644
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:04,000
charge $2 for that. It's going to cost

1645
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,000
more than the $2 to add that to the bill

1646
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,119
after they charge it. So, do you charge

1647
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:13,280
them another $2 for adding it to the

1648
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,240
bill? So, uh I would just completely

1649
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,240
forget about it. That's a cost of doing

1650
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,680
business. That first one, that's a

1651
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,280
gimme. Um there's no need for it at all.

1652
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,799
Now, the other two, um

1653
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:29,599
it's a little bit more of a a proddding

1654
01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:31,839
them to pay the bill. But I got to ask

1655
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:35,359
staff again, under the current system,

1656
01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:39,520
if that $10 fee or $5 fee or $750 fee is

1657
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,520
collected, where does that money end up?

1658
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,160
Does it end up in the pocket of the rate

1659
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,240
budget or does it end up in the pocket

1660
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,280
of the levy budget

1661
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,789
>> through the mayor? So any of the minor

1662
01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:50,799
» through the mayor? So any of the minor

1663
01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:54,000
notice fees up until the point of being

1664
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,960
transferred to taxes would be uh

1665
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,760
allocated to the rate budget.

1666
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,670
>> Okay. So, we're we're going to collect a

1667
01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:01,680
» Okay. So, we're we're going to collect a

1668
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,400
fee to remind you you're late. That

1669
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,400
money stays within the pockets of the

1670
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,720
rate budget. So, it's only the users

1671
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,720
that either get the benefit or pay the

1672
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,000
bill. So, I have no problem reminding

1673
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,160
them to send us money. Um, I guess I

1674
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,599
don't have to worry about too many in my

1675
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:22,720
word worrying about that. But, um, and

1676
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,480
since this motion's on there, there was

1677
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,640
a question also last week about the $2

1678
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,520
for a paper bill. Can maybe we discuss

1679
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,240
all of those potential fees at once and

1680
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,720
then uh give staff a clear

1681
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,319
recommendation on how we'd like to see

1682
01:06:36,319 --> 01:06:39,359
the policy drafted.

1683
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:40,950
>> Um

1684
01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:40,960
» Um

1685
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,599
so your question is is the $2 rate still

1686
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:45,520
applicable if it's a paper mailout bill

1687
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,400
as opposed to the ebilling?

1688
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,270
>> Yeah, it's a a I don't know if you call

1689
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:51,280
» Yeah, it's a a I don't know if you call

1690
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,920
it a penalty for getting the paper bill

1691
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,240
cuz like uh already it needs a stamp.

1692
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,079
That's half of the money right there.

1693
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:00,160
But it's more of an incentive to get

1694
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,880
them on eBuilding is uh so they don't

1695
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,200
have to pay that extra fee. So I think

1696
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,160
that was the logic in the proposed

1697
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:09,680
policy. Right. So

1698
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,710
>> staff comment

1699
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:12,720
» staff comment

1700
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,990
>> uh through the mayor if I if I

1701
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:14,000
» uh through the mayor if I if I

1702
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,440
understand the the question correctly.

1703
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,240
It was uh that was the the intent uh to

1704
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,640
ensure that uh it's more of an incentive

1705
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,079
to get on to ebilling than it is a

1706
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:25,280
penalty for not being on ebilling. um if

1707
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,799
no one's on eBay, everyone incurs that

1708
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:28,160
cost and then there's no user fee,

1709
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,760
right? Uh because everyone benefits

1710
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,000
equally. Um but having the option of

1711
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,000
having ebilling available um is more of

1712
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,520
having the user fee more targets um the

1713
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,839
cost to those who benefit from having

1714
01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:42,960
that paper bill if that's what they

1715
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,400
choose to have over emailing.

1716
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,470
>> Good. Councelor Huffman,

1717
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,960
» excuse me. Thank you, Mayor Martin. I am

1718
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,760
more than willing to resend the $2 for

1719
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,240
the initial notice. Um I just thought

1720
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,240
that that wouldn't fly if I put it at

1721
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,000
zero. Um I agree with uh councelor Van

1722
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,240
Passen and councelor Duffy. I don't want

1723
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,000
to be nickel and dimming and I think

1724
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,799
there is a cost to doing business and uh

1725
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:13,680
for being 6 days over to have to pay $2.

1726
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,040
I I see that as as a lot. So, I would be

1727
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,920
happy to um amend the motion to be um

1728
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,000
the first contact made with the rateayer

1729
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,440
be zero and the next two notices be $5

1730
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:27,839
each. I'm more than happy to amend that.

1731
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:29,590
>> And before I go to your second,

1732
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:29,600
» And before I go to your second,

1733
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,359
counselor Huffman, one of my suggestions

1734
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:33,520
at council and committee was that staff

1735
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,560
implement that for the first six months

1736
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,560
to get people familiar with the new

1737
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,199
billing process. is your amendment that

1738
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:44,560
that be included as a um six month like

1739
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,080
educational or or permanently?

1740
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,309
>> No, I I was thinking actually earlier

1741
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:50,319
» No, I I was thinking actually earlier

1742
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:52,719
today I was thinking about it being a

1743
01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:54,319
little bit longer than 6 months. I

1744
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:56,640
wanted it to go maybe a year, but I'm

1745
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,279
open to suggestions. I just want to do

1746
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,839
the best that we can by the rateayer and

1747
01:09:01,839 --> 01:09:04,880
to make this as as seamless as possible

1748
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,520
and and um as as productive as possible.

1749
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,480
So um I'm open to suggestions. 6 months

1750
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,400
is fine. I was kind of thinking a year,

1751
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,839
but I'll go 6 months.

1752
01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:18,709
>> Okay. So the intent would be to to wave

1753
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:18,719
» Okay. So the intent would be to to wave

1754
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:22,799
the first bill. any um fees associated

1755
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:26,480
with that as an educational

1756
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:29,600
launching the new ebilling bi-weekly and

1757
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,279
so on and so forth. So the first

1758
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:33,520
question before I go to the seconder is

1759
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,080
is council in support of that as a

1760
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,600
six-month or longer process.

1761
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:47,910
Feedback on that from council please.

1762
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,560
» Councelor Bruntton then Duffy. Am I

1763
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:51,920
missing something here? If it's

1764
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:52,950
>> Van Andrei.

1765
01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:52,960
» Van Andrei.

1766
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,990
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. I might I'm

1767
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:56,000
» Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. I might I'm

1768
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,760
a little confused here. If it in six

1769
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,520
months, if it hasn't been paid, doesn't

1770
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,719
it will it not end up on the uh tax bill

1771
01:10:02,719 --> 01:10:04,480
by then?

1772
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:06,480
Am I reading that right or am I wrong?

1773
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:07,910
>> I don't know how long it takes to move

1774
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:07,920
» I don't know how long it takes to move

1775
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,840
over to the tax bill, but that's not the

1776
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,520
question. They would then get their

1777
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,080
second and third bill at the $10 rates.

1778
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,600
So, we would still be billing them.

1779
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,840
Still trying to correct. The question

1780
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,480
now that we're considering is should we

1781
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:23,600
be offering this 0

1782
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,320
uh charge on the first notification as

1783
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,239
an educational period for 6 months, 8

1784
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,960
months, one year at which point in time

1785
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,800
that would lapse and there would be a

1786
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,800
fee associated with it. Does 6 months

1787
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,199
too short? I I understand that, Mayor

1788
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:43,440
Martin, but I I I guess I'm going right

1789
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:46,080
back to the if people can't afford to

1790
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,560
pay, eventually it's going to be at uh 1

1791
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,840
and a4% on the tax bill. It it's

1792
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,480
irrelevant. Two or10 or $5.

1793
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:56,070
>> Yep. If they can't afford to pay, they

1794
01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:56,080
» Yep. If they can't afford to pay, they

1795
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,880
they will receive additional bills, but

1796
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,360
this motion is still applicable. So, I'm

1797
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,120
going to go to councelor Duffy, then Van

1798
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,440
Andrei for feedback specifically on the

1799
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:07,440
first bill.

1800
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:08,390
>> Okay. Thank you. That was my

1801
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:08,400
» Okay. Thank you. That was my

1802
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,640
clarification. So just whether it should

1803
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,719
be six months for the $0 for freebie,

1804
01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:13,920
the first bill freebie. That's your

1805
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:14,239
question.

1806
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:16,470
>> Six months, one year. Councelor Huffman

1807
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:16,480
» Six months, one year. Councelor Huffman

1808
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:18,480
seeking input.

1809
01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:22,070
>> Yeah, I uh my take would be we just we

1810
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:22,080
» Yeah, I uh my take would be we just we

1811
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,760
make it permanent. I think you may get

1812
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,960
some reaffenders. Um but I'm not sure I

1813
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,440
necessarily want to have the marker

1814
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:30,640
moved throughout the course.

1815
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,550
>> Okay. But I need feedback on 6 months or

1816
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:32,560
» Okay. But I need feedback on 6 months or

1817
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,440
a year or not

1818
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:34,630
>> permanent.

1819
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:34,640
» permanent.

1820
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,390
>> Okay, that's not the question. Councelor

1821
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:36,400
» Okay, that's not the question. Councelor

1822
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,800
Vandenryishi feedback on six months or a

1823
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,880
year because then I'll go and

1824
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,350
>> I would prefer

1825
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:43,360
» I would prefer

1826
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,280
I would prefer the year because it is an

1827
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,600
education process. Um that way

1828
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,520
everybody's comfortable with it after an

1829
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,400
entire year rather than six months and

1830
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,000
uh yeah but there'll be more to this

1831
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,040
than you think. So thank you.

1832
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,390
>> It's okay you're going for one year.

1833
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:58,400
» It's okay you're going for one year.

1834
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,120
Councelor Barry feedback.

1835
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,590
>> Uh excuse me. I'd like I would I would

1836
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:03,600
» Uh excuse me. I'd like I would I would

1837
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,080
go with the year also. However, I know

1838
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,120
you're not asking this, but I want to

1839
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,960
throw it out, but it should be once. I

1840
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,239
mean, it shouldn't be that you're in

1841
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:11,760
every year several times over the course

1842
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,640
of that year and and you uh keep getting

1843
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,000
that no like one time you get it or not,

1844
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,360
but that's my preference.

1845
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,990
>> Okay, understood. So, Councelor Huffman,

1846
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:22,000
» Okay, understood. So, Councelor Huffman,

1847
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,000
now that you've heard from your

1848
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,040
colleagues, do you have uh preference on

1849
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,480
what you'd like your motion to be? And

1850
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:29,760
then I'll go to Councelor Michelle and

1851
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,360
see if he agrees with the amendment.

1852
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,709
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. through

1853
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:34,719
» Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. through

1854
01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:36,960
you. Um I would like to go I would like

1855
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,840
to stick with the year um and and the

1856
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,040
other numbers are um that the first

1857
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,000
contact made with the rate pair be zero

1858
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,880
and the next two notices be $5 each and

1859
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,560
the amended part would be that the first

1860
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,640
bill notification be waved for the first

1861
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,000
year and that the next two notices be $5

1862
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:56,480
each.

1863
01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:56,870
>> Okay.

1864
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:56,880
» Okay.

1865
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,270
>> Just make I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. And

1866
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:59,280
» Just make I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. And

1867
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,840
then to councelor Barry's uh point, just

1868
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,480
for clarity on your motion, if I'm a

1869
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:08,320
repeat offender, do I get my first bill

1870
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,960
waved multiple times or only once in

1871
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,280
that year process?

1872
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,669
>> I guess I would have to go back to staff

1873
01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:15,679
» I guess I would have to go back to staff

1874
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:17,679
because it would depend on how much work

1875
01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:20,400
that would take and how much tracking. I

1876
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,719
don't want to um we have to look at

1877
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:25,360
we're trying to save some money here.

1878
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,960
Um, I don't want to be taking up

1879
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,760
valuable staff time with that. So, I

1880
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,199
guess we would need some input from

1881
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:31,679
staff.

1882
01:13:31,679 --> 01:13:32,950
>> You know what? Our treasurer has her

1883
01:13:32,950 --> 01:13:32,960
» You know what? Our treasurer has her

1884
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,239
hand up. Perfect timing.

1885
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:35,510
>> Uh, thank you. And through you, Mayor

1886
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:35,520
» Uh, thank you. And through you, Mayor

1887
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,199
Martin. Yeah, I Well, I appreciate the

1888
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:38,400
intent of the motion. I think that

1889
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,760
tracking that would be very very

1890
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,040
challenging and administratively

1891
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,640
burdensome for us as a staff group.

1892
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,110
>> So, a one-time fee is is manageable.

1893
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:45,120
» So, a one-time fee is is manageable.

1894
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,719
However, a multiple first fee waiver is

1895
01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:51,280
not

1896
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,440
or all of the above is not manageable.

1897
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:56,560
the $5 two and three times

1898
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,950
>> uh through the mayor. Um

1899
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:58,960
» uh through the mayor. Um

1900
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,120
what our treasurer was referring to was

1901
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,120
the if it's a one time only uh that is

1902
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,320
the administratively burdensome

1903
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,120
component. If it's a blanket wave for 6

1904
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,600
months to a year that would be easy to

1905
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,560
accommodate.

1906
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,870
>> Okay. So the motion can stand just so

1907
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:14,880
» Okay. So the motion can stand just so

1908
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,600
that we're clear. After the it sounds

1909
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,640
like one year, we would go back to a fee

1910
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,400
system which can be addressed in a user

1911
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,560
fee bylaw. Um, and we'll let staff do

1912
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,880
what is least administratively

1913
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,440
burdensome, but also wave that fee if

1914
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:33,120
this motion passes. So, councelor

1915
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,199
Michelle, are you in support of the

1916
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:38,480
amendment from the mover?

1917
01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:39,510
>> Yes, I am, Madame Mayor.

1918
01:14:39,510 --> 01:14:39,520
» Yes, I am, Madame Mayor.

1919
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,510
>> Okay, Mr. Clerk.

1920
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:41,520
» Okay, Mr. Clerk.

1921
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,430
>> Yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, I'm

1922
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:43,440
» Yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, I'm

1923
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,480
not clear on what the 12 month

1924
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:48,239
thing is that we're achieving. So, are

1925
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:50,960
we going to review the late fees at 12

1926
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,159
months or what is the 12-month window?

1927
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:55,830
>> The 12-month window would be the

1928
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:55,840
» The 12-month window would be the

1929
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,560
educational period is over for the

1930
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,320
community who now had to adjust to

1931
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,120
ebilling and bimonthly billing. if they

1932
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:07,040
miss a payment on their bill, it is um

1933
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,679
now going to be associated the first

1934
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:11,360
payment they miss will be associated

1935
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,440
additionally with a fee and that fee

1936
01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:14,960
will come to council on the user fee

1937
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,719
bylaw where I think there's still um a

1938
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:22,000
lot of uh confusion here is that staff

1939
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,159
aren't able to monitor how many times

1940
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:26,400
they've missed the first bill and so if

1941
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,400
I'm a rateayer I can just continually

1942
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,880
miss my bill for a year. However, that's

1943
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,640
a loophole in the system and that's the

1944
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,600
motion on the floor.

1945
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,120
Does that help you?

1946
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,790
>> No, but I'm sure the treasurer can help

1947
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:38,800
» No, but I'm sure the treasurer can help

1948
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,120
me.

1949
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,149
>> Uh, go ahead, CEO. Then we'll go to uh

1950
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:44,159
» Uh, go ahead, CEO. Then we'll go to uh

1951
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:47,430
>> So, um, just for clarity, so that I I've

1952
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:47,440
» So, um, just for clarity, so that I I've

1953
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:48,880
got it straight in my mind. What we're

1954
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,760
suggesting is that once we move to an

1955
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,800
in-house billing system, the first year

1956
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,239
of transition, we will allow the 6day

1957
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:01,920
reminder notice to go out at no charge

1958
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,320
to the rateayer who is late on their

1959
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,719
payment for the first year only, zero

1960
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:09,840
charge. The 30-day reminder and 40-day

1961
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,040
reminder notices will come with a $5

1962
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,640
fee. After the first year and we finish

1963
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,520
that one-year transitionary period,

1964
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,159
staff will return as part of the annual

1965
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:25,600
budget process for user fees and suggest

1966
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,080
uh what those fees should be and that

1967
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,239
will be subject to council's approval at

1968
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:31,679
that appropriate time.

1969
01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:35,669
>> That is correct. However, the loophole

1970
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:35,679
» That is correct. However, the loophole

1971
01:16:35,679 --> 01:16:38,560
for staff because it is administratively

1972
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,679
burdensome for them to determine how

1973
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:45,679
many times I've been sent the first fee.

1974
01:16:45,679 --> 01:16:47,840
I might have been sent it once and then

1975
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,719
paid it and had the fee waved and then I

1976
01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:52,800
paid my second bimonthly bill and I'm on

1977
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,040
schedule and then the next bimonthly

1978
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,840
bill comes and I didn't pay it. Staff

1979
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,880
will then need to send me another notice

1980
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,880
at $0.

1981
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,760
So there will be there could be multiple

1982
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,880
0 fees charged to the same individual

1983
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,000
over a 12-month period. That is the gray

1984
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,640
area in this motion that I don't know

1985
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,800
how staff will deal with that. But

1986
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,790
>> so unless the treasurer says otherwise

1987
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:20,800
» so unless the treasurer says otherwise

1988
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,120
or rob I think it's a blanket.

1989
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,640
Regardless of how many times an

1990
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,040
individual rateayer might be late in

1991
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,120
that first one-year transitionary

1992
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,560
period, they will always have no fee

1993
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,320
associated with that first reminder

1994
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,840
notice

1995
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,679
period. Full stop for that first

1996
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:38,800
12-month period.

1997
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,030
>> Correct. That is the way staff staff

1998
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:41,040
» Correct. That is the way staff staff

1999
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,159
don't have the resources to do

2000
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,480
otherwise. Councelor uh sorry, Miss

2001
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:47,760
Okay, Councelor Van Passen, go ahead.

2002
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,310
>> Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, again, I'm

2003
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:50,320
» Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, again, I'm

2004
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,080
trying to understand how this system is

2005
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:56,000
going to work. So, we're going to switch

2006
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,080
February 1st of 2027. Is that the date?

2007
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,000
And we're going to mail them a some

2008
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,920
people a bill that's going to cost $2

2009
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,520
extra.

2010
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,120
Is that what we've decided? And the ones

2011
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,560
who get electronic don't have to pay

2012
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,719
that fee. Okay. So, then it's due on the

2013
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:17,199
first of the month or the 15th of the

2014
01:18:17,199 --> 01:18:18,080
month. You're going to have those

2015
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:22,080
options. And if your sixth date is late,

2016
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,000
it's going to send you an automated

2017
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,320
notice to remind you that you're late.

2018
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,840
And we're not going to charge anything

2019
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,800
for that period all the time. That's

2020
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,560
just the cost of doing business. That's

2021
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:37,440
what it is. When 30 days comes up, then

2022
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:39,760
we're going to send you a letter or an

2023
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,400
email that says, "By the way, you're 30

2024
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,640
days late."

2025
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,719
And that's going to cost $5 to send that

2026
01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:49,520
letter. But for the first year, part of

2027
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,400
the wording of that letter is we're

2028
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,199
waving the $5 fee you should be charged.

2029
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:57,360
We we just tell them that you should be

2030
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,080
charged $5 and but we're waving that for

2031
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:00,719
the first year.

2032
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:03,030
>> No, the $5 fees are still applicable for

2033
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:03,040
» No, the $5 fees are still applicable for

2034
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,880
the next two two motions. Correct,

2035
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,800
Councelor Huffman. Correct. So, no, the

2036
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,880
$5 fee on 30 days and 45 days

2037
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,070
>> payment is required

2038
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:14,080
» payment is required

2039
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,030
>> and but at 60 days

2040
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:17,040
» and but at 60 days

2041
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,679
it flips and it gets added to the tax

2042
01:19:19,679 --> 01:19:22,080
bill.

2043
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,750
>> Confirmation. Yes. From the treasur.

2044
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:23,760
» Confirmation. Yes. From the treasur.

2045
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:24,480
Yep.

2046
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:26,950
>> And that cost you $50. That's the

2047
01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:26,960
» And that cost you $50. That's the

2048
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,000
standard fee to already existing of

2049
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,000
adding things to your tax bill. And we

2050
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,679
are not discussing that. That's staying

2051
01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:36,560
here. So,

2052
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,229
>> so the only motion is

2053
01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:40,239
» so the only motion is

2054
01:19:40,239 --> 01:19:43,120
whether we charge staff had proposed $10

2055
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,600
and the motion on the floor is $5 for

2056
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,800
the 30-day and the 45day fee or letter

2057
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,080
reminder fee. Correct. Correct.

2058
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,910
>> You're mostly correct.

2059
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:53,920
» You're mostly correct.

2060
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:54,950
>> Mostly,

2061
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:54,960
» Mostly,

2062
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,350
>> councelor Deathy.

2063
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:57,360
» councelor Deathy.

2064
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,709
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, sorry for

2065
01:20:00,709 --> 01:20:00,719
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, sorry for

2066
01:20:00,719 --> 01:20:02,400
clarification then. I think I'm asking

2067
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,320
staff. I apologize. We're maybe not at

2068
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,480
that stage, but

2069
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:09,040
presumably then if the fee was $5 and $5

2070
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,199
or $10 and $10, by the time we add it to

2071
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:13,280
the tax roll, there's a $50 fee. So

2072
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,440
potentially it's 60 or 70. Is that

2073
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:17,440
right?

2074
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:19,600
Uh through the mayor, if it remains in a

2075
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,199
rears, yes. So the total fees would be

2076
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:27,040
the five plus 5 plus 50, so $60.

2077
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,880
Okay.

2078
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,669
>> Okay. I'm going to call the question

2079
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:31,679
» Okay. I'm going to call the question

2080
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:33,679
um here. Everybody's chimed in on some

2081
01:20:33,679 --> 01:20:35,760
debate. My two cents, I'm not going to

2082
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,520
support this for many reasons. First,

2083
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,960
hearing that staff can't possibly um

2084
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,600
manage the administrative burden of

2085
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,080
determining how many times an individual

2086
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,360
has been late. Uh that is a loophole in

2087
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,640
the system. Secondly, we put the rate

2088
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:59,199
budget up 10% this year, which was over

2089
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:02,000
$200 per household.

2090
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,120
um and we have the most amount of our

2091
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,280
accumulated debt is associated with the

2092
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,320
the rate budget. So in the short term,

2093
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,719
this is Norfolk County's biggest hurdle

2094
01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:14,800
and now we're having a discussion about

2095
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,920
subsidizing one of our biggest hurdles.

2096
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,600
Secondly,

2097
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,760
everyone else who pays on time is now

2098
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,040
subsidizing those who don't until it

2099
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:29,199
trickles over to the property tax levy,

2100
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:33,840
which then is our second largest hurdle.

2101
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,000
So, administratively, it creates a

2102
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,199
loophole for folks to not pay and pass

2103
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,280
that burden on to other rateayers. And

2104
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,400
this is Norfolk Countyy's

2105
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,159
single-handedly

2106
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:47,040
biggest problem rate water, wastewater,

2107
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,800
and the debt associated with it. So, I

2108
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,960
will not be supporting the motion. I'm

2109
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,239
going to call the question. Uh, Mr.

2110
01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:56,159
Clerk, are we voting on the amendment if

2111
01:21:56,159 --> 01:21:58,320
both the mover and seconder have

2112
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,880
approved it or are we voting on them?

2113
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,390
>> Uh, through you, Mayor Martin, we don't

2114
01:22:02,390 --> 01:22:02,400
» Uh, through you, Mayor Martin, we don't

2115
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,480
have an amendment. You kind of drafted a

2116
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:06,080
resolution as you went along.

2117
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,750
>> Perfect. Excellent. So, everyone

2118
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:07,760
» Perfect. Excellent. So, everyone

2119
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,719
understands what the motion is.

2120
01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:17,270
All in fa favor

2121
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:22,950
and oppose.

2122
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,239
» Uh one, two, three, four, five. Okay,

2123
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:28,400
the motion's defeated.

2124
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,639
Thank you. Four, five. Um,

2125
01:22:32,639 --> 01:22:34,719
we do have staff recommendation in front

2126
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:37,040
of us

2127
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,040
which is to receive the policy and the

2128
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,840
program update as information

2129
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,760
that we include the attachment

2130
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,239
uh one to be approved. That is the that

2131
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:52,560
is the reduced fees that staff put

2132
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,679
together. Instead of $5, it's for

2133
01:22:55,679 --> 01:22:56,310
>> 28

2134
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:56,320
» 28

2135
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,950
>> 28 and so on and so forth. that would

2136
01:22:58,950 --> 01:22:58,960
» 28 and so on and so forth. that would

2137
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,679
become effective February 1st, 2027 and

2138
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:05,120
further that policy FS49 be rescended

2139
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,320
effective January 31st, 2027. Miss Van

2140
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,880
Djk. Thank you, Mayor Martin. Through

2141
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,280
you to council, um uh thank you for

2142
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,280
allowing me to speak. I I just would

2143
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,000
like to offer a point of clarification

2144
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,880
by if council chooses to approve the

2145
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:26,000
policy as it is written and as has been

2146
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,600
presented to council, council is not

2147
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,719
approving any fees. The wording in the

2148
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:36,639
policy is that fees are set as per the

2149
01:23:36,639 --> 01:23:42,639
user fee bylaw. So, council could and it

2150
01:23:42,639 --> 01:23:44,480
would be staff's request and

2151
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:47,760
recommendation that council approve the

2152
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,280
policy to allow staff to move forward

2153
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,239
with the next phase of the planning and

2154
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:56,719
the implementation of the project to

2155
01:23:56,719 --> 01:23:58,800
bring the water and wastewater billing

2156
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,639
inhouse. The supplementary information

2157
01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:05,679
memo that Mr. Fleming provided with the

2158
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:09,520
cost recovery rates for fees would be

2159
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,960
the potential fees that would come back

2160
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,639
as part of the user fee bylaw for 2027

2161
01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:19,760
that would still be subject to council

2162
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,600
debate and approval or not at that time.

2163
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,719
So the wording in the policy around fees

2164
01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:29,920
is specifically that fees are per the

2165
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,880
user fee bylaw. If it is council's

2166
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,040
future decision, for example, not to

2167
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,360
charge any user fees, there would be no

2168
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,520
user fees in the bylaw for staff to

2169
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:44,000
charge. So, um, we do we appreciate the

2170
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,159
debate that has gone on. We appreciate

2171
01:24:46,159 --> 01:24:48,960
council's, uh, views on the the matters

2172
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,960
of the fees. Those are certainly very

2173
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,320
important. We would uh respectfully

2174
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,360
suggest and and recommend that council

2175
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,480
could pass the policy without knowing

2176
01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:03,199
what the fees would be if any just yet

2177
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,760
because those will come back.

2178
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,239
Or additionally to make council feel

2179
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:10,000
better, which I think is the crux of the

2180
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,760
debate,

2181
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,320
you can set it at the cost recovery rate

2182
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:15,920
so that you know it's not going to be

2183
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,520
higher

2184
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,360
until the next term of council comes in

2185
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,199
and makes an adjustment at the user fee

2186
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:23,840
budget. I think we're not debating about

2187
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,520
the policy here. We're debating about

2188
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,639
the cost to the to the end user. So if

2189
01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:30,880
it makes you feel better, select the

2190
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,600
lower fee that staff have put forward as

2191
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,760
the cost recovery bare minimum. And then

2192
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,440
you know until the next term of council

2193
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:41,679
sets the user fees that you've selected

2194
01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:44,719
the lowest possible rate uh for the rate

2195
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:49,750
payers of Norfolk County.

2196
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,440
So if that's the case, I would look for

2197
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:52,719
a mover and a seconder for the

2198
01:25:52,719 --> 01:25:54,880
recommendation on the screen and would

2199
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,280
encourage you to insert

2200
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:01,040
um the applicable fees for the year of

2201
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:05,040
2027 as noted in table two.

2202
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:10,310
Is that the table?

2203
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,679
» Rob, go ahead and then I'll go to

2204
01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:13,600
councelor Gthy. It's uh just for

2205
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,360
clarification uh madame mayor, it's

2206
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,320
table one uh that outlines the fees.

2207
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,149
>> Okay,

2208
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:20,159
» Okay,

2209
01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:21,760
councelor Deathy, go ahead.

2210
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,430
>> Thanks, Madam Mayor. Uh and I appreciate

2211
01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:23,440
» Thanks, Madam Mayor. Uh and I appreciate

2212
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:26,159
the insight that you shared uh as well.

2213
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:27,600
I certainly take that under adisement,

2214
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:28,960
but I would put forward the motion as

2215
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,120
recommended to my staff. However, I

2216
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:34,400
would establish the user fees for um

2217
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,080
consideration in the user fee bylaw to

2218
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,600
be $0 for the 6day automated telephone

2219
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,760
reminder and 750 for each of the

2220
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,830
supplementary uh reminders.

2221
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,880
» Uh I would just go to the clerk because

2222
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,159
I think that that still creates that

2223
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:53,760
administrative loophole that we've just

2224
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,440
maybe debated

2225
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:58,390
>> um through you, Mayor Martin. It doesn't

2226
01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:58,400
» um through you, Mayor Martin. It doesn't

2227
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,960
remedy that, but it's a valid motion to

2228
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,320
be put on the floor if there's a

2229
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:03,360
seconder.

2230
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:04,870
>> Okay. So, just for clarity then,

2231
01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:04,880
» Okay. So, just for clarity then,

2232
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,920
councelor Deathy, you would uh move the

2233
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,600
recommendation and you would suggest

2234
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,520
the first late fee notification.

2235
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,639
Is the mail out at $2 okay and the

2236
01:27:18,639 --> 01:27:22,390
ebilling is zero

2237
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,400
» for the first or do you want zero for

2238
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:25,760
both?

2239
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,590
>> Sorry. Uh the mail. No, if you're

2240
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:29,600
» Sorry. Uh the mail. No, if you're

2241
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,280
receiving a paper bill, the $2 fee I

2242
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:32,080
have no problem with.

2243
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:32,870
>> Okay. Yeah.

2244
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:32,880
» Okay. Yeah.

2245
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,669
>> So, first bill e billilling uh would be

2246
01:27:35,669 --> 01:27:35,679
» So, first bill e billilling uh would be

2247
01:27:35,679 --> 01:27:38,719
$0 on your late and then what's the

2248
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:40,320
supplemental? What's the follow-up fee

2249
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:40,880
afterwards?

2250
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:41,510
>> 750

2251
01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:41,520
» 750

2252
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,830
>> and then 750 and 750.

2253
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:43,840
» and then 750 and 750.

2254
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:44,470
>> Correct.

2255
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:44,480
» Correct.

2256
01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:46,310
>> Okay. Understood. Is there a seconder

2257
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:46,320
» Okay. Understood. Is there a seconder

2258
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,400
for that motion?

2259
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,400
Councelor Columbus.

2260
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,320
And discussion and debate.

2261
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,280
Councelor Van Passen.

2262
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,199
Thanks, Mor.

2263
01:27:59,199 --> 01:28:00,800
I think we're also forgetting that on

2264
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,639
the first day that it's overdue, they

2265
01:28:02,639 --> 01:28:04,400
charge one and a quarter% interest on

2266
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,600
that as well. So, um there's going to be

2267
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,520
paperwork

2268
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,480
sent out. So, I can support this concept

2269
01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:16,159
here. Um the first one is a reminder.

2270
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:18,480
Um that's your freebie. After that, we

2271
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,880
charge you money. staff calculated that

2272
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,199
at close to the 750 sounds like a better

2273
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:26,719
number, but again I think that's just a

2274
01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:29,280
recommendation. Council of the day in

2275
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,239
2027 will approve the official fee

2276
01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:34,719
schedule. Is that correct? Yeah. So this

2277
01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:37,040
is our recommendation to a future

2278
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,480
council to decide.

2279
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:41,189
>> Confirming that with Treasury or are you

2280
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:41,199
» Confirming that with Treasury or are you

2281
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:43,120
going to produce a user fee bylaw with

2282
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,669
the direction received today?

2283
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:49,440
» Uh through you madame mayor. the the

2284
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,480
fees that were directed um by council

2285
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:54,159
today would be included in the user fee

2286
01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:55,440
bylaw.

2287
01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:57,430
>> So it's not just a suggestion of the

2288
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:57,440
» So it's not just a suggestion of the

2289
01:28:57,440 --> 01:28:58,880
council of the day. It is setting the

2290
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:07,110
fee

2291
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,120
» doesn't kick in till 2027 staff are

2292
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,960
saying. So, okay. Um,

2293
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,800
and then councelor Deathy for my

2294
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,760
confirmation as well, that is that first

2295
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,639
first fee is an indefinite $0. That's

2296
01:29:20,639 --> 01:29:22,719
not a after a year or whatever it stops.

2297
01:29:22,719 --> 01:29:27,120
It is $0 on the first. Okay. Um,

2298
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:28,560
everyone understand the motion before

2299
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,400
you? We would be receiving the report

2300
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,880
uh including the uh additional

2301
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,639
amendments.

2302
01:29:36,639 --> 01:29:40,239
we would be rescending our prior policy.

2303
01:29:40,239 --> 01:29:42,000
So staff would be able to continue on

2304
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:46,639
with the process and that includes $0 on

2305
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:49,040
the first late fee indefinitely followed

2306
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:53,120
by $750 on the next two

2307
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,080
staff. Also, I hope you have direction

2308
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,679
that if there's a mail out that's going

2309
01:29:57,679 --> 01:29:59,679
out as per councelor Vanadri's comments

2310
01:29:59,679 --> 01:30:02,960
last time around, that is a $2 fee.

2311
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:04,719
Okay.

2312
01:30:04,719 --> 01:30:07,600
Um can we get a division of the question

2313
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,000
just on the costs please and vote on the

2314
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,400
first part which is receiving the

2315
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:17,590
report.

2316
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,440
So martin so I think um the second part

2317
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:24,320
on the fees and I'll look to treasury to

2318
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,880
correct me. It would be a direction to

2319
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,400
staff to prepare those numbers for the

2320
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,239
fee bylaw amendment. Is that correct? uh

2321
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:35,440
through the mayor. Yes, that's correct.

2322
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:36,960
We'd take that direction to bring back

2323
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,280
the 2027 user fee bylaw including the

2324
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,639
fees as directed today.

2325
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:42,310
>> Yeah.

2326
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:42,320
» Yeah.

2327
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:43,590
>> Thank you.

2328
01:30:43,590 --> 01:30:43,600
» Thank you.

2329
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,110
>> So that's how it would be presented in

2330
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:45,120
» So that's how it would be presented in

2331
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,840
the user fees, but that's fine. Okay. So

2332
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,520
with the division of question, the first

2333
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,920
three items are before us. Councelor

2334
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,199
Deathy moved. I believe councelor

2335
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:55,840
Columbus seconded. Yep. Okay. Is there

2336
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,960
any further comment or debate on that?

2337
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,639
Seeing none, I'll call the question. All

2338
01:31:00,639 --> 01:31:03,600
in favor?

2339
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,600
That's carried. Thank you. And then now

2340
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:09,360
we are uh moving and seconding by Dyian

2341
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,719
Columbus the fees the paper bill $0 on

2342
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:15,040
the first late fee indefinitely 750 for

2343
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,360
the next two. Is there any debate on

2344
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:22,159
that? Council ban and floor is yours.

2345
01:31:22,159 --> 01:31:23,830
>> Uh thank you madam chair. That is

2346
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:23,840
» Uh thank you madam chair. That is

2347
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,679
precisely what I mentioned last time.

2348
01:31:25,679 --> 01:31:27,840
Those people that don't have a computer,

2349
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,920
don't have access to all that are the

2350
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,000
ones burdening the extra cost. And I

2351
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,679
don't think that's fair. I think it

2352
01:31:33,679 --> 01:31:36,239
should be zero across the board rather

2353
01:31:36,239 --> 01:31:38,880
than than um just to those who are

2354
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,560
getting an internet um form that's

2355
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,080
telling them that they are late a late

2356
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,360
fee, a late notice. So um I'm not going

2357
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:49,280
to support this in the way it is. I

2358
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,199
would like to see that it's at least

2359
01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:53,120
fair and equitable across the board

2360
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,120
because like I say, if you can't afford

2361
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,679
a computer, you're having you're

2362
01:31:57,679 --> 01:32:00,639
probably hardressed to also pay water

2363
01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:02,320
bill.

2364
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:03,830
>> Okay. Thanks for your comments. Any

2365
01:32:03,830 --> 01:32:03,840
» Okay. Thanks for your comments. Any

2366
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,000
other debate?

2367
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,470
>> Um my two cents, I will not be

2368
01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:08,480
» Um my two cents, I will not be

2369
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:11,440
supporting this section of the motion. I

2370
01:32:11,440 --> 01:32:14,400
again I just don't agree with the $0.

2371
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,960
Um, I am okay with zero dollars as an

2372
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,440
educational trial period, but knowing

2373
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:21,040
and hearing from staff that there's no

2374
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,840
way to monitor how many times an

2375
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,159
individual will get that first bill

2376
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:28,159
paid. Essentially, they can create a

2377
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:31,199
system where they're paying a monthly um

2378
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:34,000
bill and having no

2379
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,560
uh charge for the work that staff has to

2380
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,639
do to remind them that they are in a

2381
01:32:38,639 --> 01:32:42,560
rears on that bill. So, that seems messy

2382
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,800
and unfair to me. again, uh, $14.83

2383
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,280
a month. The rate bill went up 10%

2384
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:53,520
overall and, uh, 83.7 million in debt

2385
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,239
associated with the rate on our last,

2386
01:32:56,239 --> 01:32:58,560
uh, budget. So, I will not be supporting

2387
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,719
the subsidization of uh, those who pay

2388
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:05,280
the fee late, especially when equal

2389
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,199
billing is a large part of this new

2390
01:33:07,199 --> 01:33:09,840
system. I will call the question. All in

2391
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,430
favor?

2392
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:17,189
and opposed.

2393
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:19,760
The motion's defeated.

2394
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,280
So,

2395
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,360
we have passed, as Miss Van Djk

2396
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:24,880
suggested,

2397
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,920
the ability to receive the report as

2398
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,920
information to rescend the old policy

2399
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,520
and to give staff the direction to

2400
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,000
continue on the next steps. There's no

2401
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,400
consensus on the fee. So, is it okay to

2402
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,000
leave this for the user fee bylaw come

2403
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,080
budget next year?

2404
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,760
staff are nodding their head and the

2405
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,520
debate can continue. Okay, thanks very

2406
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,080
much councel

2407
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,440
and to the clerk in my notes here I have

2408
01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:54,960
councelor Huffman sorry go ahead

2409
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:56,480
uh thank you mayor Martin through you I

2410
01:33:56,480 --> 01:33:57,920
just want to make sure what's not lost

2411
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,120
in translation is that we do a heavy

2412
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,560
communications on the importance of the

2413
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:09,199
monthly ebilling um the um I can't even

2414
01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:12,239
think it what is it I can't think of the

2415
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:14,800
thank you the equal billing

2416
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,600
and just to make users aware that they

2417
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,440
still have the opportunity to do the

2418
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:22,000
monthly billing to keep on top of their

2419
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,159
of their expenses. So, I'd really like

2420
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:26,320
to see that not lost in translation.

2421
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,199
Thank you.

2422
01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:29,030
>> Um, Miss Van Dyke looking at you, she's

2423
01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:29,040
» Um, Miss Van Dyke looking at you, she's

2424
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,120
nodding her head, so I think that's more

2425
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:35,199
than reasonable. Okay. Thank you.

2426
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:39,520
Um, we have the information memo.

2427
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,120
Sorry. Um, this is my question to you,

2428
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:41,600
Mr. CL.

2429
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:42,790
>> Yeah, we don't deal with that. You just

2430
01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:42,800
» Yeah, we don't deal with that. You just

2431
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:43,840
deferred it to feed.

2432
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,669
>> Great. Deferred to feed budget. So next

2433
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:45,679
» Great. Deferred to feed budget. So next

2434
01:34:45,679 --> 01:34:48,639
we're on 12.2.2 on your agenda which is

2435
01:34:48,639 --> 01:34:51,040
staff report CS26009.

2436
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,560
This is Holdman Norfolk Housing Corp

2437
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,960
affordable housing development jiar

2438
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,440
street in Delhigh. Miss Van Djk.

2439
01:34:57,440 --> 01:34:58,790
>> Thank you madam mayor. Threw you to

2440
01:34:58,790 --> 01:34:58,800
» Thank you madam mayor. Threw you to

2441
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,120
council. Um, this report is here today

2442
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,600
to get uh council approval as

2443
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,120
shareholder of the Haldderman Northolk

2444
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,800
Housing Corporation for the uh financing

2445
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,000
for the development located at 686

2446
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,440
Gibralar Street in Delhigh. This is uh

2447
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:18,159
going to be a 25 unit three-story mixed

2448
01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:20,719
income affordable housing development

2449
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:24,320
comprising a mix of 15 affordable and 10

2450
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,560
rent geared to income units. This is a

2451
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,920
very exciting development and um with

2452
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:33,600
planning well underway um as per the

2453
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,520
shareholder agreement for the housing

2454
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:40,320
corporation uh any um anytime the

2455
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,480
housing corporation needs to acquire

2456
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:46,080
debt or any time that there needs to be

2457
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,639
a lean registered on the property, it

2458
01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:50,400
requires unanimous approval of the

2459
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,960
shareholders. Unanimous meaning both

2460
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,159
counties. A similar report um went to

2461
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:58,880
Haldderman Council uh last week and so

2462
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,600
is here for Norfolk approval today. So

2463
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,960
as uh the resolutions state um we need

2464
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,639
council approval for the housing

2465
01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:08,560
corporation to enter into a financing

2466
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,080
agreement with Canada Mortgage and

2467
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,120
Housing Corporation um for federal

2468
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:17,840
funding. Um, we need uh approval for any

2469
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,159
leans for the provincial and federal

2470
01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:22,159
funding to be registered on the title of

2471
01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:25,520
the property. And we also uh need

2472
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,600
authorization for the mayor and clerk to

2473
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,159
sign and execute a municipal

2474
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:32,639
contribution agreement for the county's

2475
01:36:32,639 --> 01:36:35,600
financial contributions. So, by way of

2476
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:39,679
previous report, council had um approved

2477
01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:44,400
up to $1 million of a contribution um as

2478
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,960
a result of the uh the way that the

2479
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,840
project has unfolded um efficiencies in

2480
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,960
the project as well as um the the way

2481
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,000
the funding has unfolded that uh actual

2482
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,239
municipal contribution is going to be

2483
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:03,590
$23,235.

2484
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,159
So significantly less than the maximum

2485
01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:07,840
that council had approved, which is

2486
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,480
great news. Part of executing the

2487
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:12,320
municipal contribution agreement will

2488
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,480
also be the registration of that

2489
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:16,880
agreement on the title of the property.

2490
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,880
So with that, uh, madame mayor, I'd be

2491
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,880
happy to answer any questions. Thank you

2492
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,590
very much. Questions from council.

2493
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,360
Not seeing any. So the staff

2494
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,520
recommendation is before you on the

2495
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,440
screen, and I won't read it to you

2496
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:33,760
because it's quite lengthy. But good

2497
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,679
news on the reduction in the municipal

2498
01:37:35,679 --> 01:37:37,840
contribution. Is there a mover and a

2499
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,000
seconder for that? Councelor Columbus

2500
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,440
moves. Seconded by councelor Bruntton.

2501
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:44,480
Councelor Columbus.

2502
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:46,390
>> Yeah, this is great news for a great

2503
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:46,400
» Yeah, this is great news for a great

2504
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,960
project for the community of Delhigh and

2505
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,639
I can say that there are a lot of people

2506
01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:52,239
looking forward to this. It kind of

2507
01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:56,639
revitalizes the Gibralar Street area and

2508
01:37:56,639 --> 01:37:59,040
uh look forward to having a shovel in

2509
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,199
the ground come spring.

2510
01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,750
>> Excellent. I will call the question. All

2511
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:03,760
» Excellent. I will call the question. All

2512
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,560
in favor?

2513
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,360
Carried unanimously. Wonderful. Thanks,

2514
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,239
Miss Van Djk.

2515
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:14,480
Emergency services, public works, and

2516
01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:16,719
office of the CAO. We have no reports,

2517
01:38:16,719 --> 01:38:18,880
so we'll move along to our bylaws. Does

2518
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,960
any member of council wish to speak to

2519
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,760
any of the bylaws before us with the

2520
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,360
exception of the very last

2521
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:31,920
bylaw which is 1310 bylaw 20267 being a

2522
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,679
bylaw to appoint municipal law

2523
01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:36,080
enforcement officers that has been uh

2524
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,920
pulled and will be revisited in

2525
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,320
February. So all the other bylaws are up

2526
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:41,440
for discussion. Councelor Van

2527
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:45,109
Andadrishi.

2528
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:47,119
» Uh thank you madam chair. I have my

2529
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:52,239
concerns on the bylaw 20 uh 2024-91

2530
01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:54,960
which appears to be the first bylaw. I

2531
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,239
have a couple of questions. Um this uh

2532
01:38:58,239 --> 01:39:00,639
drain that has come up and has passed uh

2533
01:39:00,639 --> 01:39:04,560
through two sittings already. Um the

2534
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,880
actual uh proponent has has questions

2535
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:13,440
about it again and is still working um

2536
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,840
has some dispute over it and has some

2537
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,719
some concerns. If this bylaw passes

2538
01:39:18,719 --> 01:39:21,840
through today um and since they're like

2539
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,800
I say um kind of disputing it or

2540
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,719
concerns have concerns with it, will it

2541
01:39:26,719 --> 01:39:28,880
have an effect if there were changes to

2542
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:30,880
it? Can we go back and the bylaw is

2543
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,159
revisited or changed or does it should

2544
01:39:34,159 --> 01:39:36,719
it not be passed the bylaw if there are

2545
01:39:36,719 --> 01:39:38,400
still concerns with this particular

2546
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:45,109
drain? I think that question to staff

2547
01:39:45,119 --> 01:39:46,719
» through the chair I'm just reading it

2548
01:39:46,719 --> 01:39:49,520
very quickly. Uh so yes that uh that

2549
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,840
file is I'll say up for debate although

2550
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:53,760
it has been turned down on three

2551
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,360
occasions by the drainage tribunal. So I

2552
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:58,560
don't think there's going to be any

2553
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,880
further discussions on the file. Um but

2554
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,600
in looking at it quickly

2555
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,360
um I would say that if by adopting this

2556
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,360
bylaw then that would be end the end of

2557
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,360
the discussion and all assessments would

2558
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,760
be would be issued.

2559
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,719
Um a further question to that is um

2560
01:40:16,719 --> 01:40:18,639
we're looking at it in the sense this is

2561
01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:22,480
he's the only individual that is uh

2562
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:25,119
deemed to be uh that it is is for his

2563
01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:27,040
benefit or their benefit that particular

2564
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,040
property when yet there are properties

2565
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,600
around it. I myself don't agree with the

2566
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:35,840
way it was found um by the engineer. Um,

2567
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,800
so what if in the future there was one

2568
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:42,000
of these massive rain whatevers and it

2569
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,800
comes to find out that this drain um if

2570
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,480
they were to hook on if other people

2571
01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:48,880
were to hook on was benefit to them as

2572
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,040
well. Does it go back because it's

2573
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,679
costing this individual $44,000 I take

2574
01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:56,320
it here to do the engineering and the

2575
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:59,199
work. Um is there something that goes

2576
01:40:59,199 --> 01:41:01,920
back where he could be reimbursed by

2577
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:05,280
others if that were the case?

2578
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:06,880
Uh so through the chair I mean following

2579
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,639
the proper municipal drainage process.

2580
01:41:08,639 --> 01:41:10,560
If others were to connect to the system

2581
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:11,920
it would be benefit they would be

2582
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,800
assessed accordingly. Um however I don't

2583
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:16,560
think there's any urgency for us to

2584
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,360
finalize this bylaw today. So I and we

2585
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,119
do not have drainage staff on the line

2586
01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:23,600
following along. So um we can certainly

2587
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,280
defer this to the following meeting if

2588
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,040
that is council's desire and I can have

2589
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:28,880
the appropriate staff here to respond to

2590
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:30,480
it.

2591
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:32,310
>> I would appreciate that. Therefore,

2592
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:32,320
» I would appreciate that. Therefore,

2593
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:33,840
Madam Chair, I'd like to make the motion

2594
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,800
to defer this particular bylaw.

2595
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,910
>> Um, okay, understood. Are would you give

2596
01:41:39,910 --> 01:41:39,920
» Um, okay, understood. Are would you give

2597
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,639
me the grace of passing the other bylaws

2598
01:41:42,639 --> 01:41:46,719
so I can uh find out? I guess it's not

2599
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:48,480
inappropriate to say the name of the

2600
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:51,600
individual, is it?

2601
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,840
Who's assessed?

2602
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,430
>> That's right. Well, it's under the name

2603
01:41:55,430 --> 01:41:55,440
» That's right. Well, it's under the name

2604
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:57,840
of the Mcool petition drain. It's that

2605
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,000
that's the that's the last name of the

2606
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,320
individual being assessed.

2607
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:02,870
>> That's right.

2608
01:42:02,870 --> 01:42:02,880
» That's right.

2609
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,310
>> Okay, understood. Sorry, I was thinking

2610
01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:04,320
» Okay, understood. Sorry, I was thinking

2611
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,239
it would be a different drain then. So,

2612
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:07,440
yep, that's fine. There's a motion on

2613
01:42:07,440 --> 01:42:09,520
the floor to defer this to the next

2614
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,280
council meeting. Is there a seconder for

2615
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,840
that? Councelor Brenton and I will call

2616
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,280
the question. All in favor?

2617
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:20,719
That's carried. Does anyone else wish to

2618
01:42:20,719 --> 01:42:27,189
speak to any bylaws?

2619
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:33,109
Okay, we're going to skip that one.

2620
01:42:33,119 --> 01:42:34,719
Um,

2621
01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:36,880
moving on then. I'm looking for a mover

2622
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,880
and a seconder. I suppose I have to do

2623
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,800
these separately. So, uh, mover and

2624
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,440
seconder that bylaw 202575 being a bylaw

2625
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:45,760
to provide for variation in assessment

2626
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,239
of the drainage works the corporation of

2627
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:50,159
Norfolk County for the MCL municipal

2628
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:54,800
drain re be read a third and final time.

2629
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:59,040
Moved by councelor Deathy, seconded by

2630
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,800
councelor Michelle. All in favor

2631
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,800
carried. Mover and a seconder, please

2632
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,840
that the bylaw 202576 being a bylaw to

2633
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:08,960
provide drainage works in the

2634
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:10,480
corporation of Norfolk County for the

2635
01:43:10,480 --> 01:43:12,800
Mills South Norwich municipal drain be

2636
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,840
read a third and final time. Moved by

2637
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,080
councelor Columbus, seconded by

2638
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,719
councelor Van Passin. All in favor

2639
01:43:20,719 --> 01:43:22,960
carried. Move in and a seconder please.

2640
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,679
Bylaw 202577 being a bylaw to provide

2641
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:28,560
for partial abandonment and variation in

2642
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:29,920
assessment of drainage works in the

2643
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,199
corporation of Norfolk County for the

2644
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:34,560
McCoy Municipal Drain 2024 be read a

2645
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,790
third and final time.

2646
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,280
Councelor Deathy

2647
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,639
Councelor Barry all in favor

2648
01:43:44,639 --> 01:43:47,679
carried. Wonderful. And then a mover and

2649
01:43:47,679 --> 01:43:49,199
a second are pleased to approve the

2650
01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:52,800
following bylaws. 20

2651
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,629
2601

2652
01:43:56,639 --> 01:44:01,119
to 202603 consecutively

2653
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:03,679
uh and 202605

2654
01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:07,510
and 20260

2655
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,080
be read a first, second, and third time

2656
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:12,800
and finally passed in open council.

2657
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:14,719
Moved by

2658
01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:16,480
councelor Michelle Lee, seconded by

2659
01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:19,520
councelor Van Andreishi. All in favor

2660
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,360
carried. So we have pulled two of those

2661
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,760
bylaws for February discussion.

2662
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,080
Motions 14.1 on the agenda. We're

2663
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,320
revisiting the alternative for Grand

2664
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:37,669
Eerie Public Health.

2665
01:44:37,679 --> 01:44:40,159
» Council Michelle.

2666
01:44:40,159 --> 01:44:41,910
>> Yes, Madame Mayor. Um, I believe you

2667
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:41,920
» Yes, Madame Mayor. Um, I believe you

2668
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,560
mean to say alternate,

2669
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,880
not alternative.

2670
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:47,430
>> Sure.

2671
01:44:47,430 --> 01:44:47,440
» Sure.

2672
01:44:47,440 --> 01:44:50,310
>> Okay. Um,

2673
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:50,320
» Okay. Um,

2674
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:53,520
yes. I just want to get that clear.

2675
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,430
>> If you turn your microphone off right

2676
01:44:55,430 --> 01:44:55,440
» If you turn your microphone off right

2677
01:44:55,440 --> 01:44:57,920
now and that's your only suggestion,

2678
01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,520
you're in trouble.

2679
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,070
>> And also, Madame Mayor, I should follow

2680
01:45:02,070 --> 01:45:02,080
» And also, Madame Mayor, I should follow

2681
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:10,080
up. Um if um we uh if council is willing

2682
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,199
uh I I would um volunteer to to become

2683
01:45:13,199 --> 01:45:14,800
that alternate for that temporary

2684
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:15,760
period.

2685
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,510
>> I believe councelor Vanpassen has a

2686
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:17,520
» I believe councelor Vanpassen has a

2687
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:18,159
motion.

2688
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:19,510
>> Thank you madam mayor. I would move a

2689
01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:19,520
» Thank you madam mayor. I would move a

2690
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,360
motion that councelor Michelle be

2691
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,159
appointed as the alternate member for

2692
01:45:24,159 --> 01:45:26,080
the grand area public health.

2693
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,629
>> Councelor Huffman seconding.

2694
01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:28,639
» Councelor Huffman seconding.

2695
01:45:28,639 --> 01:45:30,639
The only thing um additional information

2696
01:45:30,639 --> 01:45:33,199
I would add to that for council's

2697
01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:35,360
consideration before I check and see if

2698
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:36,320
there's any other additional

2699
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,080
nominations. Councelor Huffman had

2700
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:39,199
mentioned the conflict with police

2701
01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:41,600
service board which does happen. Um

2702
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,119
however, it's uh it you are still able

2703
01:45:45,119 --> 01:45:47,760
to tune in virtually and participate in

2704
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,760
some of the meetings. So, it's not a a

2705
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,520
complete write off if that interests any

2706
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:54,000
of the police service board or OP board

2707
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,239
members. Are there any other nominations

2708
01:45:56,239 --> 01:45:59,119
to put forward on this?

2709
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:01,520
Okay, I'll call the question. Um, moved

2710
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:02,960
by councelor Vampass and seconded by

2711
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,280
councelor Huffman. The council appoints

2712
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,760
uh councelor Michelle to act as the

2713
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:09,920
alternate member of council on the grand

2714
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:14,159
public board of health. All in favor?

2715
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:16,560
Any opposed? Motion's carried. Thank you

2716
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,480
very much, councelor Michelle, for

2717
01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:20,159
stepping up and adding to your committee

2718
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:21,760
work.

2719
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,440
Any notice of motions? I have none other

2720
01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:27,920
business.

2721
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,750
Councelor Columbus.

2722
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,679
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. Just wanted to

2723
01:46:33,679 --> 01:46:35,840
make a statement with respect to the

2724
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:39,360
power outages in the Delhigh area. So,

2725
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,679
I'll read the statement that I prepared.

2726
01:46:41,679 --> 01:46:43,360
In recent months, residents of the

2727
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,040
Delhigh community have experienced a

2728
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:47,199
significant increase in electrical power

2729
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:48,960
outages.

2730
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:50,880
Some report loss of freezer food and

2731
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:52,960
being without heat for more than a whole

2732
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,280
day. Some I even heard as much as two

2733
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,920
days. A number of individuals have taken

2734
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,239
to social media, specifically talk

2735
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:02,880
Delhigh, indicating that the W3

2736
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:05,119
counselor in Norfor County should be

2737
01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:07,440
taking the power outage issue more

2738
01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:08,960
seriously.

2739
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:10,320
I have come to learn that

2740
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:13,119
hydrogeneration and distribution

2741
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:15,440
including reliability of service is a

2742
01:47:15,440 --> 01:47:18,400
provincial issue and not a local Norfolk

2743
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,800
issue. Hydraw 1 is affiliated with

2744
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:22,880
Ontario as the province remains its

2745
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,040
largest shareholder granting it

2746
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,679
influence while Hydraw 1 operates as a

2747
01:47:27,679 --> 01:47:30,320
public traded company with a mandate to

2748
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,000
maintain critical electricity

2749
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:36,390
transmission distribution

2750
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,800
infrastructure in Ontario. subject to

2751
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,040
provincial oversight and regulatory

2752
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,639
control by the Ontario Energy Board.

2753
01:47:44,639 --> 01:47:46,639
Although the power outage issue is an

2754
01:47:46,639 --> 01:47:49,280
Ontario government responsibility, I did

2755
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,600
reach out to Hydro1 officials regarding

2756
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,880
residents outage concerns. Hydro 1 is

2757
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,040
well aware of the outage concerns and

2758
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,679
held a team meeting to discuss frequency

2759
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:02,239
of outages and indicated they would

2760
01:48:02,239 --> 01:48:05,360
explore the matter further. A municipal

2761
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,719
relations department official

2762
01:48:08,719 --> 01:48:10,960
has indicated that Hydro 1 will be

2763
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,040
completing a patrol of the power lines

2764
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,119
to identify areas that may require

2765
01:48:15,119 --> 01:48:18,080
maintenance or repair. This includes

2766
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,639
inspecting equipment and any forestry

2767
01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:23,040
maintenance that may need to be

2768
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,520
completed. In addition, they are taking

2769
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,440
further steps to strengthen the system

2770
01:48:27,440 --> 01:48:30,560
reliability by reviewing infrastructure

2771
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,119
plans in the area to better support

2772
01:48:33,119 --> 01:48:35,679
long-term reliability.

2773
01:48:35,679 --> 01:48:38,080
I do not subscribe to social media.

2774
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:39,600
However, with respect to the power

2775
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,719
outage issue, I have been subjected to a

2776
01:48:42,719 --> 01:48:44,960
number of derogatory remarks by a

2777
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,280
certain individual who has made several

2778
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:50,400
false statements, accusations regarding

2779
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:54,400
my integrity representing W 3. And on uh

2780
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,080
February 10th, this individual will be

2781
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:57,600
coming to counciling committee to make a

2782
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,760
deputation. I don't know what it's going

2783
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,760
to be about, but anyway, we'll we'll see

2784
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,080
looking forward. This individual never

2785
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,119
did ever contact me through email or by

2786
01:49:07,119 --> 01:49:10,400
phone. And uh here we are to share a few

2787
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,000
comments

2788
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,840
on the post. He indicated when the

2789
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,320
doctors vacated Delhigh, he waved and

2790
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:17,920
smiled.

2791
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:19,520
You probably all remember the time I

2792
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:23,199
made a statement here at council. It was

2793
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:26,480
uh April 24th, 2023.

2794
01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:29,280
Front page headlines. Simco reformer

2795
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:30,880
family health team moved from Delhigh

2796
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,679
worries community members Columbus. So

2797
01:49:33,679 --> 01:49:37,440
there it is a false statement again. Um

2798
01:49:37,440 --> 01:49:40,159
he voted himself a raise and waves and

2799
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:41,840
smiles.

2800
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,760
Well you all know how I voted. It was a

2801
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,400
record of vote. I voted against that. He

2802
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,679
voted or he doesn't show up for anything

2803
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:51,920
anymore yet is always there for the free

2804
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,560
meals. How do you like that? And now

2805
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:56,080
they think I control the switch to

2806
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,080
power.

2807
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,560
for going to Delhi.

2808
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,800
Freedom of speech is everybody's right.

2809
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,440
However, linguistically assaulting a

2810
01:50:05,440 --> 01:50:07,360
member of Norfol Council is out of

2811
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:10,480
order. What recourse does an elected

2812
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:12,719
member of council have when it comes to

2813
01:50:12,719 --> 01:50:17,590
social media?

2814
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,159
» All right. Is that a rhetorical question

2815
01:50:20,159 --> 01:50:23,199
or you hoping for some discussion on

2816
01:50:23,199 --> 01:50:26,960
social media from council?

2817
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,560
I missed that. Sorry, madam mayor.

2818
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:29,750
>> Are you hoping for council to have

2819
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:29,760
» Are you hoping for council to have

2820
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,440
discussion on social media? Is that

2821
01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:33,430
>> uh Yes. I don't know. Maybe the CEO

2822
01:50:33,430 --> 01:50:33,440
» uh Yes. I don't know. Maybe the CEO

2823
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:35,600
would like to make a comment on that. I

2824
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:36,960
mentioned to him earlier what I was

2825
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,199
going to do. So,

2826
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:42,229
>> do you wish to make a comment?

2827
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:42,239
» do you wish to make a comment?

2828
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:44,229
>> Um through Madame Mayor. The only

2829
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:44,239
» Um through Madame Mayor. The only

2830
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:47,199
comment I will make is social media is

2831
01:50:47,199 --> 01:50:49,360
certainly growing in influence and there

2832
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,320
are a lot of comments being made on

2833
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,719
social media. um not a necessarily

2834
01:50:56,719 --> 01:50:59,840
um the best vehicle to confirm that the

2835
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,600
the information being shared on social

2836
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,880
media is factually correct. But uh it is

2837
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:08,080
something that uh at the municipal level

2838
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,520
every organization is working on options

2839
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,679
and strategies to deal with social media

2840
01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:17,510
going forward.

2841
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,360
Uh, I have councelor Bruntton then Van

2842
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:24,470
Passen.

2843
01:51:24,480 --> 01:51:26,320
Councelor Van Passen on this topic. Go

2844
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:27,280
ahead.

2845
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:28,550
>> Well, I'm not sure if it's on this

2846
01:51:28,550 --> 01:51:28,560
» Well, I'm not sure if it's on this

2847
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,480
topic. I want to talk about the power

2848
01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:32,880
outages, but uh which I think where we

2849
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,480
started and would actually ask that uh

2850
01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:39,040
staff do contact Hydro1.

2851
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:42,719
Um we get to brag a lot that uh Norfolk

2852
01:51:42,719 --> 01:51:44,159
County is such a great place because we

2853
01:51:44,159 --> 01:51:47,360
got 28% forest cover and we forget

2854
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,440
sometimes that those forests also cover

2855
01:51:49,440 --> 01:51:51,280
the hydro lines cuz I have had a lot of

2856
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,599
complaints as well. Um especially along

2857
01:51:53,599 --> 01:51:55,679
the lake shore, places like Normandale,

2858
01:51:55,679 --> 01:51:59,360
Fischer Glenn, um the wind blows, trees

2859
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,040
fall down, takes down the hydrol lines,

2860
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,679
they've got power outages, too. And it's

2861
01:52:03,679 --> 01:52:05,599
still uh Noral County's fault even

2862
01:52:05,599 --> 01:52:07,440
though we got nothing to do with it. But

2863
01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:09,360
I wonder if that might be possible that

2864
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:12,880
staff uh talk to, you know, the powers

2865
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,360
that be, you know, we have our crews

2866
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,520
that are out up and down the road. Maybe

2867
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,679
they can work with Hydro1 when they see

2868
01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:21,599
a tree that's hanging over the line or

2869
01:52:21,599 --> 01:52:23,760
something and uh maybe we can work out

2870
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,840
something to the benefit of all the uh

2871
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:29,679
the residents of Norfolk County. So,

2872
01:52:29,679 --> 01:52:32,310
>> councelor Duffy,

2873
01:52:32,310 --> 01:52:32,320
» councelor Duffy,

2874
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:33,589
>> uh thank you, Madam Mayor. I would just

2875
01:52:33,589 --> 01:52:33,599
» uh thank you, Madam Mayor. I would just

2876
01:52:33,599 --> 01:52:34,800
sort of in response to Councelor

2877
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:36,880
Columbus, I would say, you know, social

2878
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,520
media is a dreadful animal uh often and

2879
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:40,960
people take things they hear on there as

2880
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,639
gospel and then spout it as if they're

2881
01:52:42,639 --> 01:52:44,480
preaching. Um, which is typically

2882
01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:46,239
incorrect. But what I would say is I

2883
01:52:46,239 --> 01:52:47,679
have welcomed the conversations that

2884
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:49,280
I've been able to have with uh

2885
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:51,360
individuals and residents that have read

2886
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,280
things on social media and then reached

2887
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:56,560
out to confirm. Um because when you have

2888
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:58,320
the ability to have a discussion that is

2889
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,520
actually rooted in fact uh you know you

2890
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,520
can make further strides with that

2891
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,679
individual. Uh so my encouragement

2892
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:06,960
really would be to the residents that

2893
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,880
are reading these things on social and

2894
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:10,960
assuming that they're gospel don't don't

2895
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,400
believe everything that you read and in

2896
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,719
fact uh reach out to your uh your

2897
01:53:14,719 --> 01:53:16,719
representative be it at this level or at

2898
01:53:16,719 --> 01:53:18,800
other levels um and to seek

2899
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:20,080
clarification and then make your

2900
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,719
determination from there.

2901
01:53:22,719 --> 01:53:24,149
>> All right. Thanks for those comments.

2902
01:53:24,149 --> 01:53:24,159
» All right. Thanks for those comments.

2903
01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:26,320
Much appreciated.

2904
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:28,080
Anyone else for or sorry, Council

2905
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:29,520
Breton, other business?

2906
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,430
>> Uh, yeah. Thank you, Mayor Martin. I

2907
01:53:31,430 --> 01:53:31,440
» Uh, yeah. Thank you, Mayor Martin. I

2908
01:53:31,440 --> 01:53:33,040
just want to take a minute toh

2909
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,520
congratulate Andrew and his staff for

2910
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,280
all the hard work they're doing out

2911
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,440
there with the snow plowing and the cold

2912
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:42,000
weather. I can appreciate some of the

2913
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:44,400
issues you're probably dealing with, but

2914
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,880
I would uh tell you that I have had some

2915
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:49,679
very interesting comments from people. a

2916
01:53:49,679 --> 01:53:51,920
few not so favorable, but the majority

2917
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,639
are uh

2918
01:53:54,639 --> 01:53:57,040
very much appreciate the work you are

2919
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:58,719
doing and I hope you pass that on to

2920
01:53:58,719 --> 01:54:01,440
your staff. Thank you,

2921
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:02,390
>> Councelor Duffy.

2922
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:02,400
» Councelor Duffy.

2923
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,070
>> Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. If I could

2924
01:54:04,070 --> 01:54:04,080
» Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. If I could

2925
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,719
maybe just get some uh sort of pose a

2926
01:54:06,719 --> 01:54:08,080
question of staff and I think I know the

2927
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,480
answer, but uh the status of the pool as

2928
01:54:10,480 --> 01:54:17,109
of today

2929
01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:20,639
uh through the mayor. Um work is moving

2930
01:54:20,639 --> 01:54:23,760
along. Uh we thought obviously we were

2931
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,320
going to be open sooner um but the water

2932
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,800
chemistry was was the issue. So, I don't

2933
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,520
have an exact date on opening, but uh I

2934
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:33,280
have been assumed or I assume from the

2935
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:34,719
talks I had with staff earlier this week

2936
01:54:34,719 --> 01:54:36,159
that the pool will be up and running

2937
01:54:36,159 --> 01:54:38,320
this week. And I apologize. I don't have

2938
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,320
an exact time, but I will get that and

2939
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:45,430
email counselors with the exact date.

2940
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,000
» Sorry, thank you for that. This has just

2941
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,679
triggered a question for me though that

2942
01:54:49,679 --> 01:54:51,280
I may pose to Miss Van Djk. My

2943
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:52,960
apologies, Madame Mayor. I beg your

2944
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,960
indulgence. I could swear on social

2945
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,880
media today, as much as we were just

2946
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,199
talking about that, I saw a post from

2947
01:54:59,199 --> 01:55:00,639
Norfol County that said the Enley's car

2948
01:55:00,639 --> 01:55:03,360
aquatic center was open today

2949
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,589
>> and that could very well be as I said, I

2950
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:05,599
» and that could very well be as I said, I

2951
01:55:05,599 --> 01:55:08,159
haven't talked to staff uh this week

2952
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:10,480
about it. It was it was earlier this

2953
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:12,560
week.

2954
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,629
>> So, Madame Mayor, threw you to council.

2955
01:55:14,629 --> 01:55:14,639
» So, Madame Mayor, threw you to council.

2956
01:55:14,639 --> 01:55:17,440
Um, I am aware that communication staff

2957
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:20,400
have been in regular contact with

2958
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,719
recreation staff and providing updates,

2959
01:55:22,719 --> 01:55:26,719
but I will confirm with them uh right

2960
01:55:26,719 --> 01:55:30,159
now um whether they're referencing the

2961
01:55:30,159 --> 01:55:38,629
building being open or the pool or both.

2962
01:55:38,639 --> 01:55:42,000
» Anyone else for other business?

2963
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:47,669
Great. General announcements,

2964
01:55:47,679 --> 01:55:50,480
staff.

2965
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:52,960
All righty, we're cruising along with

2966
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:54,960
that. We have four late close session

2967
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,040
items today.

2968
01:55:57,040 --> 01:55:59,199
Uh mover and a seconder, please p to

2969
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:03,040
move into close session for uh several

2970
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:04,800
reasons here. Councelor Varian Huffman

2971
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,119
move pursuant to section 2392 of the

2972
01:56:07,119 --> 01:56:09,280
Municipal Act 2001 as amended as a

2973
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,199
subject matter pertains to B personal

2974
01:56:11,199 --> 01:56:13,199
matters about an identifiable individual

2975
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:14,800
including municipal or local board

2976
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,280
employees and E litigation or potential

2977
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:18,800
litigation including matters before

2978
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,960
administrative tribunals affecting the

2979
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,760
municipality or local board and H

2980
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:25,760
information explicitly supplied in

2981
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:27,360
confidence to the municipality or local

2982
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,199
board by Canada a province or territory

2983
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:32,560
or crown agency of any of them. Items

2984
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:36,080
18.1 through to 18.4 are on the agenda.

2985
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,159
Um, and for those virtually, let's just

2986
01:56:38,159 --> 01:56:41,360
take a five minute break and and

2987
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:44,480
jump into close session at 301.

2988
01:56:44,480 --> 01:56:44,960
Thanks.

2989
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:45,910
>> Okay.

2990
01:56:45,910 --> 01:56:45,920
» Okay.

2991
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:47,910
>> Sorry,

2992
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:47,920
» Sorry,

2993
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:57,669
that's carried.

2994
01:56:57,679 --> 01:57:00,320
Life depends on to restore this pond.

2995
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,400
We're removing the excess sediment and

2996
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,800
transporting it to a licensed site.

2997
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:06,880
We're also clearing invasive plants,

2998
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:08,880
reshaping the pond's banks, and

2999
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,639
upgrading the outlet that controls the

3000
01:57:10,639 --> 01:57:12,719
flow of water. This work will improve

3001
01:57:12,719 --> 01:57:14,719
water quality, allow the pond to hold

3002
01:57:14,719 --> 01:57:17,040
more water, reduce flooding risk, and

3003
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:18,960
provide a healthier habitat for plants

3004
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,199
and wildlife.

3005
01:57:21,199 --> 01:57:23,040
Storm water management isn't just about

3006
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,440
what you see on the surface. It's also

3007
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,360
about the infrastructure underground. We

3008
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,520
use special tools to locate, map, and

3009
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,040
inspect the pipes and infrastructure

3010
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:32,719
that connect the ponds to the wider

3011
01:57:32,719 --> 01:57:34,719
storm water system. This helps us to

3012
01:57:34,719 --> 01:57:36,400
understand how water moves through our

3013
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,400
communities and identify issues that

3014
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:40,719
need our attention. It's likely that you

3015
01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:42,560
or someone that you know has been

3016
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,719
impacted by flooding, erosion, or

3017
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:46,960
drainage issues. All of that connects

3018
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:48,719
back to storm water. Storm water

3019
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:50,480
management isn't just about pipes and

3020
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,239
ponds. It's about protecting the

3021
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:53,520
communities and the nature that

3022
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,840
surrounds us. As Norfolk County grows,

3023
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:57,599
so does our responsibility to manage

3024
01:57:57,599 --> 01:57:59,760
storm water. And that's our job. With

3025
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,080
smart planning, hard work, and community

3026
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,080
support, we're building a cleaner,

3027
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,000
safer, and more resilient future

3028
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:13,510
together.

3029
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,560
Welcome to Norfolk County, where land

3030
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,599
meets lake and opportunity grows deep

3031
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:21,679
and wide.

3032
01:58:21,679 --> 01:58:24,080
Located on the north shore of Lake Erie

3033
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,719
in the heart of southwestern Ontario,

3034
01:58:26,719 --> 01:58:30,960
Norfolk spans 1600 square kilm making us

3035
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,440
one of Ontario's largest single tier

3036
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:35,119
municipalities.

3037
01:58:35,119 --> 01:58:38,159
Our roots run deep in agriculture, food

3038
01:58:38,159 --> 01:58:40,880
production, and advanced manufacturing

3039
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,360
industries that shaped our past and are

3040
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:46,639
powering Ontario's future economy. Home

3041
01:58:46,639 --> 01:58:50,239
to over 70,000, we are bold, diverse,

3042
01:58:50,239 --> 01:58:53,520
and fiercely local. From Port Dober to

3043
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,840
Longpoint, our folks are putting down

3044
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,719
roots. Sometimes in sand, sometimes in

3045
01:58:58,719 --> 01:59:01,360
soil, but always in a place they're

3046
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:04,639
proud to call home. Big land, big

3047
01:59:04,639 --> 01:59:08,239
vision, unmatched potential. That's

3048
01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:11,990
Norfolk.

3049
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:13,520
» Hey, Norfolk County. Hey, Norfolk

3050
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:14,000
County.

3051
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,149
>> Hey, Norfol County. Hey, Norfolk County.

3052
01:59:16,149 --> 01:59:16,159
» Hey, Norfol County. Hey, Norfolk County.

3053
01:59:16,159 --> 01:59:17,109
>> Hey, Norfolk County.

3054
01:59:17,109 --> 01:59:17,119
» Hey, Norfolk County.

3055
01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:18,470
>> Hey, Norfolk County.

3056
01:59:18,470 --> 01:59:18,480
» Hey, Norfolk County.

3057
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:20,070
>> My name is Bowden Wiki.

3058
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:20,080
» My name is Bowden Wiki.

3059
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:21,830
>> My name is Lindsay Calokoski.

3060
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:21,840
» My name is Lindsay Calokoski.

3061
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,310
>> My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park

3062
01:59:24,310 --> 01:59:24,320
» My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park

3063
01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:24,719
student.

3064
01:59:24,719 --> 01:59:26,390
>> I work as an economic development

3065
01:59:26,390 --> 01:59:26,400
» I work as an economic development

3066
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:27,199
coordinator.

3067
01:59:27,199 --> 01:59:29,669
>> I work on roads department in Delhigh.

3068
01:59:29,669 --> 01:59:29,679
» I work on roads department in Delhigh.

3069
01:59:29,679 --> 01:59:31,990
>> I work as a supervisor for waste

3070
01:59:31,990 --> 01:59:32,000
» I work as a supervisor for waste

3071
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:32,560
management.

3072
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:34,390
>> I work as a committee coordinator in the

3073
01:59:34,390 --> 01:59:34,400
» I work as a committee coordinator in the

3074
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:35,520
clerk's department.

3075
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,990
>> Okay. What's the first question?

3076
01:59:37,990 --> 01:59:38,000
» Okay. What's the first question?

3077
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:39,990
>> Um, what I love about my job is the

3078
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:40,000
» Um, what I love about my job is the

3079
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:40,400
people.

3080
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:42,629
>> All right. What do I love about my job?

3081
01:59:42,629 --> 01:59:42,639
» All right. What do I love about my job?

3082
01:59:42,639 --> 01:59:45,510
>> It's really the community. No day is the

3083
01:59:45,510 --> 01:59:45,520
» It's really the community. No day is the

3084
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:46,000
same. It

3085
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:47,430
>> is cuz I get to work with a bunch of

3086
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:47,440
» is cuz I get to work with a bunch of

3087
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:48,320
great guys.

3088
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:50,790
>> It directly impacts really positively

3089
01:59:50,790 --> 01:59:50,800
» It directly impacts really positively

3090
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:52,639
the residents of Norol County.

3091
01:59:52,639 --> 01:59:54,229
>> Uh I love the people that I get a chance

3092
01:59:54,229 --> 01:59:54,239
» Uh I love the people that I get a chance

3093
01:59:54,239 --> 01:59:56,639
to work with. Every day is different.

3094
01:59:56,639 --> 01:59:58,480
The mix of things is what makes me happy

3095
01:59:58,480 --> 01:59:59,599
and keeps me going.

3096
01:59:59,599 --> 02:00:02,229
>> First and foremost, the the community uh

3097
02:00:02,229 --> 02:00:02,239
» First and foremost, the the community uh

3098
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:04,400
the people of this community are so

3099
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,560
welcoming is the amazing team I get to

3100
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:07,920
work with every day here at Norfol

3101
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:08,320
County.

3102
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:10,229
>> Opportunity to help people uh to help my

3103
02:00:10,229 --> 02:00:10,239
» Opportunity to help people uh to help my

3104
02:00:10,239 --> 02:00:11,679
community. And one of the things I love

3105
02:00:11,679 --> 02:00:14,719
the most about my job is my team. I I

3106
02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:18,239
love who I work with and um what I do

3107
02:00:18,239 --> 02:00:20,719
while I'm here.

3108
02:00:20,719 --> 02:00:22,960
I get to work on projects and in

3109
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,280
programs that support our community that

3110
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,599
help make lives better for the people

3111
02:00:27,599 --> 02:00:29,679
who live here, who work here, and who

3112
02:00:29,679 --> 02:00:32,560
come here to visit. Every day you feel

3113
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:33,920
like you've accomplished something on

3114
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:35,440
the way home and you're working with a

3115
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:37,760
bunch of great people who are equally as

3116
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:39,360
committed to the community and serving

3117
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:40,159
our communities.

3118
02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:42,870
>> The pace here is uh very good and uh

3119
02:00:42,870 --> 02:00:42,880
» The pace here is uh very good and uh

3120
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:44,560
great uh work life balance.

3121
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,229
>> They put wellness on the forefront. So

3122
02:00:46,229 --> 02:00:46,239
» They put wellness on the forefront. So

3123
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:47,599
I'm part of the Apple committee and

3124
02:00:47,599 --> 02:00:49,199
there's lots of opportunity at Norfol

3125
02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:49,599
County.

3126
02:00:49,599 --> 02:00:51,830
>> Flexible work hours, great work life

3127
02:00:51,830 --> 02:00:51,840
» Flexible work hours, great work life

3128
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:54,480
balance, great staff, great friends and

3129
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:55,760
of course what's not to love about

3130
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:57,920
Norfol County for Ontario's garden.

3131
02:00:57,920 --> 02:00:59,669
>> I love helping people. I love helping

3132
02:00:59,669 --> 02:00:59,679
» I love helping people. I love helping

3133
02:00:59,679 --> 02:01:01,760
residents and that's what makes Norfol

3134
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:04,560
County a great place to come to work.

3135
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,149
>> I chose to work for Norfol County

3136
02:01:06,149 --> 02:01:06,159
» I chose to work for Norfol County

3137
02:01:06,159 --> 02:01:08,560
because I grew up in Delhigh so it's

3138
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:10,480
close to home and I've enjoyed working

3139
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:12,080
for my community and my friends and

3140
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:12,880
family.

3141
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,189
>> Definitely 100% the people. There are

3142
02:01:15,189 --> 02:01:15,199
» Definitely 100% the people. There are

3143
02:01:15,199 --> 02:01:16,880
lots of community champions and

3144
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,199
everyone's been so kind and welcoming

3145
02:01:19,199 --> 02:01:20,709
>> because I was born and raised here and I

3146
02:01:20,709 --> 02:01:20,719
» because I was born and raised here and I

3147
02:01:20,719 --> 02:01:21,840
wanted to help give back to my

3148
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:22,239
community.

3149
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:24,070
>> I love giving back to a community that I

3150
02:01:24,070 --> 02:01:24,080
» I love giving back to a community that I

3151
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:26,159
grew up in. I love my team and I love

3152
02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:27,840
that I can leave a legacy here in the

3153
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:28,719
Twin Cities.

3154
02:01:28,719 --> 02:01:30,709
>> When I had the opportunity to come home

3155
02:01:30,709 --> 02:01:30,719
» When I had the opportunity to come home

3156
02:01:30,719 --> 02:01:33,199
and and serve the public, I jumped at

3157
02:01:33,199 --> 02:01:36,000
that opportunity. I started my career as

3158
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,159
an area planner for this place. It's

3159
02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:39,760
interesting that the end of my career,

3160
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:41,599
this opportunity came up to come back

3161
02:01:41,599 --> 02:01:43,920
and make Norfolk a better place. Is

3162
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:46,000
being able to live and work in the

3163
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,880
community that uh we're a part of. I did

3164
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:52,080
choose to work for Norfolk because I'm

3165
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,880
an engineer by trade and I like to solve

3166
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,119
problems and realized how rewarding it

3167
02:01:57,119 --> 02:01:58,800
was to be able to contribute to

3168
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:00,639
initiatives within the area that I've

3169
02:02:00,639 --> 02:02:03,360
always called home. I love it here. You

3170
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,440
should consider uh joining the public

3171
02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,119
sector, joining the municipality because

3172
02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:09,040
it's so diverse. There's something for

3173
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:10,800
everyone. Local government is the

3174
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:12,480
closest to the people. We get to work

3175
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:14,880
with our residents day in and day out

3176
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:16,880
and there is something for you in every

3177
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:23,910
department for Norfolk.

3178
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:26,320
» Hey Norfol County, do you know how your

3179
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:28,400
property taxes are spent? Let's take a

3180
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:30,880
look together. First, we need to start

3181
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,599
with Norfol County's budget. Every year,

3182
02:02:33,599 --> 02:02:35,520
staff and council confirm the funds

3183
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,199
required to be collected from the

3184
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:39,920
property taxes paid by you and 35,000

3185
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:42,800
other Norfol County taxpayers.

3186
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,400
These funds contribute to Norfol

3187
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,719
County's levy and capital budgets, which

3188
02:02:46,719 --> 02:02:49,679
lay out how your tax dollars are used.

3189
02:02:49,679 --> 02:02:51,760
The capital budget is also funded by the

3190
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:53,440
rate budget, the funds paid by

3191
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:55,440
residents, known as rateayers, for water

3192
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:57,199
and wastewater services through their

3193
02:02:57,199 --> 02:02:59,199
monthly water bill.

3194
02:02:59,199 --> 02:03:01,040
The levy budget is used to deliver

3195
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:02,880
programs and services for residents

3196
02:03:02,880 --> 02:03:05,040
ranging from emergency services like

3197
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:07,920
fire and EMS, waste services like

3198
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,960
garbage collection, recreation services

3199
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,920
like arenas, trails, and parks,

3200
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:15,840
maintenance services like snow removal

3201
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,639
and road repair, and human services like

3202
02:03:18,639 --> 02:03:20,719
homelessness prevention and health

3203
02:03:20,719 --> 02:03:24,400
education programs. Our levy budget also

3204
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:27,040
supports our libraries and museums,

3205
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,599
administrative services for council, and

3206
02:03:29,599 --> 02:03:31,920
the many staff who keep Norfolk County

3207
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:33,679
operating.

3208
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:36,080
Services like recreation programs for

3209
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:38,800
children, adults, and seniors and our

3210
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:40,960
Ride Norfolk transit program are also

3211
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:43,199
paid for with property taxes and

3212
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:46,159
supplemented by user fees.

3213
02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:48,480
And across Ontario, a portion of each

3214
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,360
resident's property tax bill goes to our

3215
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,520
local school boards.

3216
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:55,280
About a third of the property taxes

3217
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:57,199
collected are allocated to the capital

3218
02:03:57,199 --> 02:03:59,360
budget or reserves for future capital

3219
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,679
spending, which includes other funding

3220
02:04:01,679 --> 02:04:03,520
sources like the federal and provincial

3221
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,440
government, reserve funds, grants, debt,

3222
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:09,679
and development charges, as well as

3223
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:12,080
funds from the rate budget. Together,

3224
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:13,760
the capital budget goes toward

3225
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:15,760
longerterm projects such as our

3226
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:17,599
investments in water and wastewater

3227
02:04:17,599 --> 02:04:19,920
facilities, as well as building and

3228
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:23,199
renewing our parks, roadways, pools,

3229
02:04:23,199 --> 02:04:25,840
arenas, and other things we use every

3230
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:28,639
day. So, the next time you hear someone

3231
02:04:28,639 --> 02:04:30,960
ask, "Where are my property taxes

3232
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:33,599
going?" you can tell them to look down,

3233
02:04:33,599 --> 02:04:36,239
look up, and look forward. Your tax

3234
02:04:36,239 --> 02:04:38,800
dollars are at work all around you every

3235
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:41,679
day. When you visit your local park with

3236
02:04:41,679 --> 02:04:44,000
your family, drive to work on cleared

3237
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,119
roads, register for swimming lessons,

3238
02:04:47,119 --> 02:04:48,480
get rid of that old couch you've

3239
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,880
outgrown, or contact Service Norfol

3240
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:52,719
about that pothole on your street that

3241
02:04:52,719 --> 02:04:54,800
needs to be fixed.

3242
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:56,880
Your tax dollars are also being invested

3243
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:58,880
in initiatives to improve the lives of

3244
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:00,960
Norfol County residents in the years to

3245
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,199
come to make Norfol County a better

3246
02:05:03,199 --> 02:05:05,920
place for future generations.

3247
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:07,920
While Norfol County's budget is prepared

3248
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:10,560
once a year, your feedback helps us make

3249
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:13,040
decisions and plan for the future. We

3250
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:14,560
are committed to listening to you so

3251
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:16,159
that our budget reflects what is

3252
02:05:16,159 --> 02:05:18,639
important to our community. Learn more

3253
02:05:18,639 --> 02:05:20,560
about Norfol County's budget at

3254
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:23,199
norol.ca/

3255
02:05:23,199 --> 02:05:24,790
>> Today, we're announcing an exciting

3256
02:05:24,790 --> 02:05:24,800
» Today, we're announcing an exciting

3257
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,719
partnership with Scotland and Norfol

3258
02:05:26,719 --> 02:05:28,800
County Economic Development, and we're

3259
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:30,719
transforming transport trailers into

3260
02:05:30,719 --> 02:05:32,880
mobile ambassadors. We're showcasing

3261
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:35,280
Norfolk's story of opportunity,

3262
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:37,280
excellence, and quality of life across

3263
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:39,760
all of North America. And Scotland is

3264
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:41,679
the ideal partner with an amazing

3265
02:05:41,679 --> 02:05:43,520
logistics network and will help us share

3266
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:59,189
our story all across North America.

3267
02:05:59,199 --> 02:06:18,709
Heat.

3268
02:06:18,719 --> 02:06:33,830
Hey, Heat.

3269
02:06:33,840 --> 02:07:21,589
Uh oh.

3270
02:07:21,599 --> 02:07:23,760
Hi, I'm Jacob and I'm here to take you

3271
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:25,679
behind the scenes on a capital project

3272
02:07:25,679 --> 02:07:28,560
in Norfol County. We begin planning

3273
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:30,480
capital projects by analyzing our

3274
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:32,960
infrastructure needs related to roads,

3275
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:35,599
water manes, storm and sanitary sewers

3276
02:07:35,599 --> 02:07:38,320
as well as bridges. We assess their

3277
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:40,560
overall condition, age, and servicing

3278
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:42,639
requirements. This provides a solid

3279
02:07:42,639 --> 02:07:44,480
foundation to ensure Norfolk has the

3280
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,079
hard infrastructure for current and

3281
02:07:46,079 --> 02:07:48,480
future needs. Once a project is

3282
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:50,480
determined and approved by council, we

3283
02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:52,320
retain an engineer to complete the

3284
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:55,360
design. During this stage, we engage the

3285
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:56,719
public through public information

3286
02:07:56,719 --> 02:07:58,480
centers or postings on the county

3287
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:00,719
website to inform them of the upcoming

3288
02:08:00,719 --> 02:08:02,639
project and provide an opportunity to

3289
02:08:02,639 --> 02:08:05,280
share feedback. After the design is

3290
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:07,040
completed and all approvals are in

3291
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:09,199
place, we hire a contractor through a

3292
02:08:09,199 --> 02:08:11,119
public bidding process. During the

3293
02:08:11,119 --> 02:08:13,440
construction phase, we track progress,

3294
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:15,599
budget, and continue to engage with the

3295
02:08:15,599 --> 02:08:17,520
public. We also work with other

3296
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:19,199
departments to ensure the overall

3297
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:21,679
success of the project. Once complete,

3298
02:08:21,679 --> 02:08:24,000
we report and track any warranty issues

3299
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,639
for 2 years. We measure a project's

3300
02:08:26,639 --> 02:08:28,400
success by its ability to enhance

3301
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:30,560
infrastructure and positively impact

3302
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,520
residents. As a Norfol County employee,

3303
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,440
I enjoy building the community that has

3304
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,599
given me so much. Thank you for taking

3305
02:08:37,599 --> 02:08:39,119
the time to join me on this

3306
02:08:39,119 --> 02:08:48,950
behind-the-scenes tour.

3307
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:51,040
Deputations are a way for you and all

3308
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:52,880
residents of Norfol County to speak

3309
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:54,880
before council about relevant matters in

3310
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,440
our community.

3311
02:08:57,440 --> 02:09:04,390
To begin, search www.norfocount.ca.

3312
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:07,199
Then select the government tab.

3313
02:09:07,199 --> 02:09:09,440
Under the government tab, select provide

3314
02:09:09,440 --> 02:09:11,199
deputation/spe

3315
02:09:11,199 --> 02:09:13,920
at a council or committee meeting.

3316
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:15,760
This page provides general information

3317
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:17,760
regarding deputations. Under the

3318
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,320
subheading register to speak, click the

3319
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:23,040
public hearing/deputation form link to

3320
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,679
pre-register your deputation.

3321
02:09:25,679 --> 02:09:27,520
Notice of collection. By checking the

3322
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:29,040
notice of collection box, you are

3323
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,199
agreeing to the above statement.

3324
02:09:31,199 --> 02:09:33,040
Selecting the type of meeting you want.

3325
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:34,639
There are several types of meetings that

3326
02:09:34,639 --> 02:09:36,880
allow deputations. Please listen closely

3327
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:39,520
as we explain each option. Council

3328
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,679
meeting. Council deputations must

3329
02:09:41,679 --> 02:09:43,199
pertain to a matter listed on the

3330
02:09:43,199 --> 02:09:45,280
upcoming meeting agenda. For the

3331
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:46,800
remaining meeting choices, you may

3332
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,719
present a deputation if the topic

3333
02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:50,000
pertains to the committee you are

3334
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:52,239
presenting to. Once you select the type

3335
02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:53,599
of meeting you want to deliver your

3336
02:09:53,599 --> 02:09:55,840
deputation, you can complete the rest of

3337
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:58,159
the document. Now, choose whether you

3338
02:09:58,159 --> 02:10:00,000
will attend the meeting in person or

3339
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,239
virtually.

3340
02:10:02,239 --> 02:10:04,239
Finally, select if you will be providing

3341
02:10:04,239 --> 02:10:06,480
materials during your deputation. If you

3342
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:08,400
have materials for distribution during

3343
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:10,400
the council meeting, please bring 15

3344
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,639
hard copies for council and staff. Now,

3345
02:10:12,639 --> 02:10:16,079
click next to move to step two.

3346
02:10:16,079 --> 02:10:18,000
In step two, please fill out your

3347
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,079
personal information.

3348
02:10:20,079 --> 02:10:21,760
Once your personal information is

3349
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,560
completed, click next.

3350
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:26,560
Lastly, review your information and

3351
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:29,040
select next to submit your form. You

3352
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:30,400
have now completed the deputation

3353
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:32,079
request form. You will receive a

3354
02:10:32,079 --> 02:10:33,520
confirmation email from the clerk's

3355
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:34,800
department that they've received your

3356
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:36,960
request. Next, we will talk about what

3357
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:39,679
to do on the day of your deputation.

3358
02:10:39,679 --> 02:10:41,430
>> So, you've received your approval and

3359
02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:41,440
» So, you've received your approval and

3360
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:43,440
the day of your deputation is upon you.

3361
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,159
For starters, council is located here at

3362
02:10:46,159 --> 02:10:47,920
50 Coburn Street. Now, there's two

3363
02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:49,599
entrances you can use when you arrive.

3364
02:10:49,599 --> 02:10:52,639
One is here located off Coburn and one

3365
02:10:52,639 --> 02:10:54,960
located off Talbet Street. When you

3366
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:56,560
arrive, you'll have three main options

3367
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,560
to park. The first is to park at the

3368
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,239
Simco Town Center Mall, which is where

3369
02:11:00,239 --> 02:11:07,910
Food Basics is located.

3370
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:09,599
Your second option is 2-hour street

3371
02:11:09,599 --> 02:11:11,679
parking on Court Street. And your third

3372
02:11:11,679 --> 02:11:13,920
option is 2-hour street parking on L

3373
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:15,840
Street. If you can't find any parking in

3374
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:17,679
any of those three options, don't worry.

3375
02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:19,280
Downtown Simco has plenty of street

3376
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,679
parking in all of the surrounding areas.

3377
02:11:21,679 --> 02:11:23,199
If you enter through the Cobburn Street

3378
02:11:23,199 --> 02:11:24,400
doors, you'll have to make your way

3379
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:25,520
through the building to get to council

3380
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:27,440
chambers. But don't worry, if you

3381
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:29,199
require any assistance, you can feel

3382
02:11:29,199 --> 02:11:30,719
free to ask Service Norfol at the front

3383
02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:32,719
desk.

3384
02:11:32,719 --> 02:11:34,960
Make your way along this path and you'll

3385
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:38,480
end up in the main lobby. To your left,

3386
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:40,239
there'll be an elevator. You can either

3387
02:11:40,239 --> 02:11:42,079
ring the bell or go ask people at the

3388
02:11:42,079 --> 02:11:43,920
front desk for assistance. If you don't

3389
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:45,360
need to use the elevator, you can head

3390
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:47,520
on up the green staircase and go up to

3391
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,840
council doors. If you enter through the

3392
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:51,760
Talbet street doors, the elevator will

3393
02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:53,760
be immediately in front of you or the

3394
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:55,520
green staircase will be ready for you to

3395
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:58,400
go up and deliver your presentation.

3396
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:00,159
Once you reach the top of the stairs,

3397
02:12:00,159 --> 02:12:08,870
you'll have made it to council chambers.

3398
02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:11,360
Feel free to take a seat here or here

3399
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:13,040
and wait for council to call your name

3400
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:15,280
when it's time to present.

3401
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:17,199
When council calls your name, make your

3402
02:12:17,199 --> 02:12:18,960
way to the podium and ensure that you

3403
02:12:18,960 --> 02:12:20,639
don't walk between the railing and the

3404
02:12:20,639 --> 02:12:22,639
chairs on your way there. When you

3405
02:12:22,639 --> 02:12:24,400
arrive at the podium, adjust it to your

3406
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:26,159
desired height using the arrow buttons

3407
02:12:26,159 --> 02:12:27,760
and turn the microphone on using the

3408
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:30,560
button on the right.

3409
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:32,079
If you're giving your deputation in

3410
02:12:32,079 --> 02:12:34,079
front of council, begin by saying

3411
02:12:34,079 --> 02:12:35,599
through the mayor. If you're giving it

3412
02:12:35,599 --> 02:12:37,840
in front of a committee, begin by saying

3413
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:40,400
through the chair. Then clearly state

3414
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:42,560
your name and address and you'll have 5

3415
02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:44,639
minutes to give your presentation.

3416
02:12:44,639 --> 02:12:46,480
Upon having 1 minute remaining, the

3417
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:48,400
chair will give you notice. When you're

3418
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:50,079
finished your presentation, council may

3419
02:12:50,079 --> 02:12:51,760
have questions for you. Ensure that you

3420
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:53,199
always begin your answer by saying

3421
02:12:53,199 --> 02:12:55,119
through the mayor or through the chair

3422
02:12:55,119 --> 02:12:58,000
to counselor and their last name. If you

3423
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:00,000
can't answer the question, that's okay.

3424
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:01,520
Inform council that you'll gather more

3425
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,000
information and get back to them. After

3426
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:05,440
that, council will have heard out what

3427
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:06,800
you've had to say and they'll take

3428
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:08,239
appropriate action as they deem

3429
02:13:08,239 --> 02:13:10,960
necessary. And now you finished your

3430
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:13,360
deputation. You can either have a seat

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02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:15,840
and watch the rest of the meeting or you

3432
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:17,119
can leave through the door that you came

3433
02:13:17,119 --> 02:13:19,119
in and ensure that you leave as quietly

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02:13:19,119 --> 02:13:26,709
as possible.

3435
02:13:26,719 --> 02:13:28,880
Hey, Norfol County. My name is Anna and

3436
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:30,560
I'm here to share some water safety tips

3437
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:32,400
to keep you and your family safe around

3438
02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:35,119
the water.

3439
02:13:35,119 --> 02:13:37,119
Knowing how to swim is a life skill and

3440
02:13:37,119 --> 02:13:39,119
an essential part of staying safe and

3441
02:13:39,119 --> 02:13:41,360
having fun. Swimming lessons are the

3442
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:42,960
best way to learn essential swim

3443
02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:44,960
survival skills to recover from a fall

3444
02:13:44,960 --> 02:13:47,040
into deep water.

3445
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:48,639
Think you're too old for lessons? There

3446
02:13:48,639 --> 02:13:50,239
are programs designed for teens and

3447
02:13:50,239 --> 02:13:52,880
adults as well.

3448
02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:54,880
With so many lakes and rivers, Canadians

3449
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:57,280
of all ages are avid boers. Always wear

3450
02:13:57,280 --> 02:14:00,480
a life jacket. It could save your life.

3451
02:14:00,480 --> 02:14:02,880
Never swim alone, regardless of age and

3452
02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:05,119
skill level. Always swim with a buddy. A

3453
02:14:05,119 --> 02:14:06,719
buddy can throw you a buoyant aid if you

3454
02:14:06,719 --> 02:14:09,040
get into trouble. When possible, wait

3455
02:14:09,040 --> 02:14:13,589
into unknown waters to prevent injury.

3456
02:14:13,599 --> 02:14:15,599
Backyard pools are a great place to make

3457
02:14:15,599 --> 02:14:17,760
family memories. But remember, if you

3458
02:14:17,760 --> 02:14:19,599
are not within arms reach of your child

3459
02:14:19,599 --> 02:14:21,199
in and around the water, then you've

3460
02:14:21,199 --> 02:14:23,760
gone too far. Drowning can occur in as

3461
02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:28,470
little as 10 seconds, and it is silent.

3462
02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:30,880
Every drowning death is preventable.

3463
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:32,800
Take time to educate yourself and those

3464
02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:34,800
around you to ensure you're staying safe

3465
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:36,960
and having fun around the water. For

3466
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:38,800
more information, visit norfolk

3467
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:49,270
county.ca/watersafety.

3468
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:51,360
We all have the right to feel safe at

3469
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:53,840
work, when spending time with friends

3470
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:55,760
and family,

3471
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:58,400
when participating in activities, or

3472
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:00,800
attending a public meeting or event.

3473
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:02,960
Norfolk County is committed to ensuring

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02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:06,400
our spaces and workplaces are safe. Our

3475
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:08,320
respect and responsibility policy

3476
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:10,159
outlines the code of conduct for

3477
02:15:10,159 --> 02:15:14,079
employees, patrons, contractors,

3478
02:15:14,079 --> 02:15:17,360
volunteers, coaches, and spectators.

3479
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:19,520
This code of conduct also applies to

3480
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:23,119
phone calls, emails, and virtual and

3481
02:15:23,119 --> 02:15:26,000
social media platforms. We all play a

3482
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:28,239
part in fostering a respectful and safe

3483
02:15:28,239 --> 02:15:30,800
environment. Inappropriate behaviors

3484
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:33,440
such as swearing, name calling, verbal

3485
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:35,920
and physical threats, physical violence,

3486
02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:38,079
harassment, and vandalism will not be

3487
02:15:38,079 --> 02:15:40,560
tolerated. Staff have the right to take

3488
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,119
action when incidents occur. This may

3489
02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:45,280
include denying service, asking

3490
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:47,440
individuals to leave, contacting the

3491
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:49,840
police, or if necessary, suspending them

3492
02:15:49,840 --> 02:15:52,320
from county programs and facilities.

3493
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:54,239
Those responsible for damaging county

3494
02:15:54,239 --> 02:15:56,159
property will be required to cover the

3495
02:15:56,159 --> 02:15:58,159
cost of repairs, fees, and lost

3496
02:15:58,159 --> 02:16:01,350
revenues.

3497
02:16:01,360 --> 02:16:02,880
We are committed to providing

3498
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:05,040
highquality customer service and a safe

3499
02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:07,840
and respectful environment for all. For

3500
02:16:07,840 --> 02:16:09,679
more information about our respect and

3501
02:16:09,679 --> 02:16:11,760
responsibility policy, visit

3502
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:28,149
norfolcount.ca/rnr.

3503
02:16:28,159 --> 02:16:30,719
Hi, I'm Lisa and I'm excited to take you

3504
02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:32,399
behind the scenes to meet Norfolk

3505
02:16:32,399 --> 02:16:36,790
County's aquatics team in action.

3506
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:39,040
I think the people are what make the

3507
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:40,639
job. I think working with the people

3508
02:16:40,639 --> 02:16:42,719
that I do, we're a great team. We work

3509
02:16:42,719 --> 02:16:45,200
really well together. That makes a

3510
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,120
positive work environment. That makes a

3511
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:49,280
positive work for the public as well.

3512
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:50,960
They see that we work well together and

3513
02:16:50,960 --> 02:16:53,519
I think that benefits them as well. I

3514
02:16:53,519 --> 02:16:54,880
still love coming here every day. It's

3515
02:16:54,880 --> 02:16:57,120
an exciting job. It's always different.

3516
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:59,439
You're always doing new things. Being

3517
02:16:59,439 --> 02:17:01,359
part of our team offers staff the

3518
02:17:01,359 --> 02:17:03,599
opportunity to develop essential skills

3519
02:17:03,599 --> 02:17:05,679
in lifeguarding. Teaching swimming

3520
02:17:05,679 --> 02:17:08,319
lessons, customer service, first aid,

3521
02:17:08,319 --> 02:17:10,319
and of course, teamwork.

3522
02:17:10,319 --> 02:17:12,070
>> I think swimming in general is a really

3523
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:12,080
» I think swimming in general is a really

3524
02:17:12,080 --> 02:17:13,920
great skill to have from a very young

3525
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:16,399
age. So, being a part of children

3526
02:17:16,399 --> 02:17:17,840
learning how to swim is super important

3527
02:17:17,840 --> 02:17:19,760
to me. It's a really rewarding process

3528
02:17:19,760 --> 02:17:21,599
to see them go from not the greatest

3529
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:24,800
swimmer to a better or great swimmer.

3530
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:26,639
It's a really good stepping stone to

3531
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:28,639
what I want to do in the future.

3532
02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:31,429
>> It's just a nice variety and everybody

3533
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:31,439
» It's just a nice variety and everybody

3534
02:17:31,439 --> 02:17:32,960
brings something different and special

3535
02:17:32,960 --> 02:17:35,359
to the team.

3536
02:17:35,359 --> 02:17:37,429
>> Our aquatics team is dedicated to

3537
02:17:37,429 --> 02:17:37,439
» Our aquatics team is dedicated to

3538
02:17:37,439 --> 02:17:39,760
educating the community on water safety

3539
02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:42,719
and drowning prevention. You might be a

3540
02:17:42,719 --> 02:17:45,359
quiet student coming in and this job is

3541
02:17:45,359 --> 02:17:46,800
really going to push you to find your

3542
02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:49,280
voice and be like an impactful member of

3543
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:49,920
a team.

3544
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:52,549
>> I love that it's different every day and

3545
02:17:52,549 --> 02:17:52,559
» I love that it's different every day and

3546
02:17:52,559 --> 02:17:54,880
you get to meet new people every day and

3547
02:17:54,880 --> 02:17:56,960
see some of the same faces every day as

3548
02:17:56,960 --> 02:17:58,960
well. But my job is different every

3549
02:17:58,960 --> 02:18:00,639
single day. I don't do the same. So,

3550
02:18:00,639 --> 02:18:01,439
it's amazing.

3551
02:18:01,439 --> 02:18:03,669
>> As a proud Norville County employee, I'm

3552
02:18:03,669 --> 02:18:03,679
» As a proud Norville County employee, I'm

3553
02:18:03,679 --> 02:18:05,599
honored to be part of a team delivering

3554
02:18:05,599 --> 02:18:08,240
life-saving skills to our community.

3555
02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:09,760
Thank you for joining me on this

3556
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:12,399
behind-the-scenes tour. I hope this

3557
02:18:12,399 --> 02:18:14,240
video gives you a glimpse of what it's

3558
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:16,719
like to be part of our aquatics team. If

3559
02:18:16,719 --> 02:18:18,479
you're interested in taking advanced

3560
02:18:18,479 --> 02:18:20,639
leadership courses to become a lifeguard

3561
02:18:20,639 --> 02:18:32,309
and instructor, visit norcount.ca.

3562
02:18:32,319 --> 02:18:34,319
Hey, Norfolk County. Whether you're a

3563
02:18:34,319 --> 02:18:36,719
longtime resident, new to the area, or

3564
02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:38,800
simply visiting, do you know about the

3565
02:18:38,800 --> 02:18:40,800
many services provided by Norfolk

3566
02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:43,840
County? As a single tier municipality,

3567
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:45,920
we provide services that our community

3568
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:48,719
uses every day, including water and fire

3569
02:18:48,719 --> 02:18:50,639
protection, curbside garbage and

3570
02:18:50,639 --> 02:18:52,639
recycling, road and sidewalk

3571
02:18:52,639 --> 02:18:55,200
maintenance, and so much more. We also

3572
02:18:55,200 --> 02:18:57,519
provide services needed at unique times

3573
02:18:57,519 --> 02:18:59,840
in life, such as a marriage or business

3574
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:02,319
license, or a dog tag for your new

3575
02:19:02,319 --> 02:19:04,719
companion. And the unique geographic

3576
02:19:04,719 --> 02:19:07,120
features in Norfolk County from farmland

3577
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:10,399
and forests to lakes and wetlands means

3578
02:19:10,399 --> 02:19:12,479
we also provide specialized services

3579
02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:14,479
ranging from drainage applications to

3580
02:19:14,479 --> 02:19:16,319
tree inspections.

3581
02:19:16,319 --> 02:19:18,559
Wondering how to contact Norfolk County?

3582
02:19:18,559 --> 02:19:20,960
Start with Service Norfolk. Our friendly

3583
02:19:20,960 --> 02:19:23,120
team of agents is here to help. Reach us

3584
02:19:23,120 --> 02:19:28,389
by phone at 519-426-5870

3585
02:19:28,399 --> 02:19:33,359
or 226 Norfolk from 8:30 to 4:30 Monday

3586
02:19:33,359 --> 02:19:35,760
to Friday. Calling about an issue after

3587
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:40,080
hours? No problem. We have you covered.

3588
02:19:40,080 --> 02:19:42,479
Prefer online? Email ask

3589
02:19:42,479 --> 02:19:44,800
us@norfolocount.ca

3590
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:47,760
anytime or use our customer service

3591
02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:51,040
portal at service.norfolocount.ca

3592
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:53,680
CA and get a reply right to your email

3593
02:19:53,680 --> 02:19:57,120
inbox. Want to visit us in person? Come

3594
02:19:57,120 --> 02:19:58,880
to one of our friendly customer service

3595
02:19:58,880 --> 02:20:01,920
counters in Simco Monday to Friday or

3596
02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:05,040
Delhigh Tuesday to Thursday. Service

3597
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:07,760
Norfolk, connecting you to Norfol County

3598
02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:10,870
services.

3599
02:20:10,880 --> 02:20:13,359
» Meet Captain Clean, the toilet paper

3600
02:20:13,359 --> 02:20:15,840
superhero here to protect Norfolk

3601
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:17,520
County's pipes and keep everything

3602
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:20,399
flowing smoothly. Remember, only flush

3603
02:20:20,399 --> 02:20:23,439
the three P's. Pee, poop, and toilet

3604
02:20:23,439 --> 02:20:26,160
paper. Flushing anything else can cause

3605
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:28,880
big trouble. Things like wipes, hair, or

3606
02:20:28,880 --> 02:20:31,200
grease can create sewer blockages. These

3607
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:33,840
blockages restrict flow. Combine with

3608
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:36,560
other debris and causely damage,

3609
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:39,200
overflow, and even water pollution. By

3610
02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:41,120
sticking to the three Ps, you can help

3611
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:43,760
prevent clogs, reduce repair costs, and

3612
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:46,720
keep our water clean. For items you

3613
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:49,439
can't flush, proper disposal is key.

3614
02:20:49,439 --> 02:20:51,840
Throw regular waste in the garbage. Do

3615
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:53,920
not believe claims on packaging that

3616
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:56,160
products are flushable. Take it from

3617
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:59,520
Captain Clean. They are not. Household

3618
02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:01,520
hazardous waste can be dropped off at

3619
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:04,160
Norfolk's temporary depots during spring

3620
02:21:04,160 --> 02:21:07,280
and fall. For things like medication and

3621
02:21:07,280 --> 02:21:09,680
sharps disposal, take them to your local

3622
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:12,000
pharmacy or the health unit. And

3623
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:14,800
remember, grease belongs in the trash,

3624
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:17,439
but let it cool and store it first.

3625
02:21:17,439 --> 02:21:20,160
Don't pour it down the drain. Be a

3626
02:21:20,160 --> 02:21:22,960
flushing hero like Captain Clean.

3627
02:21:22,960 --> 02:21:25,280
Together, we can protect our pipes, our

3628
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:28,160
homes, and the environment. Remember,

3629
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:31,680
only flush the three Ps. Norfolk County

3630
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:39,270
is counting on you.

3631
02:21:39,280 --> 02:21:42,160
» Hi, I'm Dave. I'm here to take you

3632
02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:44,479
behind the scenes for a quick look at

3633
02:21:44,479 --> 02:21:46,240
what we do at Norfolk County's water

3634
02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:48,479
treatment facility. Here in Port Rowan,

3635
02:21:48,479 --> 02:21:50,880
the water treatment process starts by

3636
02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:53,520
pumping water from Lake Erie up into the

3637
02:21:53,520 --> 02:21:55,920
water treatment facility. Back in the

3638
02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:58,319
treatment facility, I inspect large

3639
02:21:58,319 --> 02:22:00,640
clarification tanks where the lake water

3640
02:22:00,640 --> 02:22:03,439
enters the plant. Here we add quagalin,

3641
02:22:03,439 --> 02:22:05,520
a chemical that attracts dirt particles

3642
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:07,520
together. These form into larger

3643
02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:09,600
particles called flock, which eventually

3644
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:12,160
sinks and is sent to waste. Next, the

3645
02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:14,640
water enters the filtration system where

3646
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:16,720
any remaining dirt particles are trapped

3647
02:22:16,720 --> 02:22:19,040
by the filters. The water is then

3648
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:22,560
chlorinated and sent into a 113 cubic

3649
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:25,120
meter underground storage chamber. The

3650
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,040
water is then taken to the granular

3651
02:22:27,040 --> 02:22:29,840
activated carbon filters that work like

3652
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:32,880
superized 10,000 lb brittle filters to

3653
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:35,680
remove taste and odor. The final step is

3654
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:38,720
disinfection, which includes UV and a

3655
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:41,359
final dose of chlorine, ensuring safe

3656
02:22:41,359 --> 02:22:44,000
potable drinking water. Water testing is

3657
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:45,760
an important part of the job. Throughout

3658
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:47,680
the day, we take water samples at

3659
02:22:47,680 --> 02:22:50,000
different stages of the process, up to

3660
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:52,160
nine tests depending on the treatment

3661
02:22:52,160 --> 02:22:54,960
facility. As a Norfolk resident myself,

3662
02:22:54,960 --> 02:22:56,800
I'm proud to serve the community I live

3663
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:59,120
in. Thanks for joining me in this

3664
02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:02,080
behindthescenes tour.

3665
02:23:02,080 --> 02:24:06,550
Heat. Heat.

3666
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:08,399
Hey, Norfolk County. Did you know that

3667
02:24:08,399 --> 02:24:11,120
Ride Norfolk is now on demand? This

3668
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:12,960
means you can schedule Norfolk's public

3669
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:14,640
transit service to pick you up for

3670
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:17,040
appointments, shopping, school, or work.

3671
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:18,960
Ride Norfolk has partnered with Blaze

3672
02:24:18,960 --> 02:24:21,520
Transit to offer ondemand pickups at all

3673
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:24,319
95 stops across Norfolk, including this

3674
02:24:24,319 --> 02:24:26,960
one. I booked my trip earlier today and

3675
02:24:26,960 --> 02:24:29,439
my bus is here right on time. Since

3676
02:24:29,439 --> 02:24:31,520
there are no fixed local schedules, you

3677
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:33,439
can easily book Ride Norfolk over the

3678
02:24:33,439 --> 02:24:36,080
phone, online, or on the Blaze Transit

3679
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:37,840
app from your smartphone. Thanks,

3680
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:38,240
Charlie.

3681
02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:40,230
>> You're welcome. Ride Norfolk's customer

3682
02:24:40,230 --> 02:24:40,240
» You're welcome. Ride Norfolk's customer

3683
02:24:40,240 --> 02:24:41,760
service team can help answer any

3684
02:24:41,760 --> 02:24:43,359
questions you may have, get you started

3685
02:24:43,359 --> 02:24:46,160
with the app, or book your next ride. By

3686
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:48,080
moving to on demand, Ride Norfolk is

3687
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:49,760
helping more residents get where they

3688
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,800
need to go. To learn more, visit norfolk

3689
02:24:52,800 --> 02:25:00,230
county.ca/transit.

3690
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:02,399
Hi, I'm Marissa and I'm here to take you

3691
02:25:02,399 --> 02:25:04,000
behind the scenes for a quick look at

3692
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:05,840
what we do at Norol County's waste and

3693
02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:07,680
recycling operations. Here at the

3694
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:10,000
transfer station in Simco, residents can

3695
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:11,920
bring a variety of waste materials for

3696
02:25:11,920 --> 02:25:14,800
disposal. Norfolk operates two transfer

3697
02:25:14,800 --> 02:25:17,200
stations welcoming about 27,000

3698
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:19,280
customers every year and accepts

3699
02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:22,000
material ranging from bulky items, wood,

3700
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:24,479
metal, and yard waste. Norfolk also

3701
02:25:24,479 --> 02:25:26,880
provides curbside waste programs.

3702
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:29,040
Recycling from your home arrives at this

3703
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:31,040
facility where it is manually sorted by

3704
02:25:31,040 --> 02:25:33,520
the type of material. You can see why

3705
02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:35,359
it's important to separate materials

3706
02:25:35,359 --> 02:25:38,080
into the correct bin, rinse recyclables,

3707
02:25:38,080 --> 02:25:40,399
and remove items from bags. This

3708
02:25:40,399 --> 02:25:43,520
facility processes 4600 metric tons per

3709
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:46,240
year. That's equal to about 20 tons per

3710
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:48,880
day. Once items are sorted by material

3711
02:25:48,880 --> 02:25:50,880
type, they are bailed and ready to be

3712
02:25:50,880 --> 02:25:52,960
shipped across North America to be made

3713
02:25:52,960 --> 02:25:56,319
into new material. About 8 to 10% of the

3714
02:25:56,319 --> 02:25:58,160
material that arrives here shouldn't

3715
02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:00,479
have been put in the recycling bin.

3716
02:26:00,479 --> 02:26:02,640
Residents can use our recycle coach app

3717
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:05,359
to confirm if an item can be recycled.

3718
02:26:05,359 --> 02:26:07,600
After seeing how waste is handled, I

3719
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:09,920
hope this video helps show why rinsing

3720
02:26:09,920 --> 02:26:11,760
and sorting your recyclables are

3721
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:13,359
important steps in the recycling

3722
02:26:13,359 --> 02:26:16,000
process. As a Norfol County employee, I

3723
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:17,760
am proud to serve the community I was

3724
02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:19,840
raised in. Thanks for joining me on this

3725
02:26:19,840 --> 02:26:24,950
behind-the-scenes tour.

3726
02:26:24,960 --> 02:26:27,520
This summer, discover the hidden gem of

3727
02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:31,200
Norfolk County, Ontario's garden. Stroll

3728
02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:33,600
through historic villages where time

3729
02:26:33,600 --> 02:26:36,240
seems to slow down. Feel the sand

3730
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:38,319
between your toes on our pristine Lake

3731
02:26:38,319 --> 02:26:41,200
Eerie beaches. From live theater that

3732
02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:43,760
captivates to trails that wind through

3733
02:26:43,760 --> 02:26:46,640
breathtaking landscapes, adventure and

3734
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:50,240
relaxation await at every turn. Meet the

3735
02:26:50,240 --> 02:26:52,399
farmers who grow your dinner and taste

3736
02:26:52,399 --> 02:26:55,520
wine and beer crafted right here.

3737
02:26:55,520 --> 02:26:57,920
Experience Norfolk County this summer,

3738
02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:00,720
where small town charm meets farm fresh

3739
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:03,600
flavor. Ontario's garden. It's time you

3740
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:13,349
came home to it.

3741
02:27:13,359 --> 02:27:15,760
Hey, Norol County. I'm Chris and I'm

3742
02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:17,200
here to take you behind the scenes to

3743
02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:19,120
show you how Norfol County manages storm

3744
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:21,439
water in our towns and communities.

3745
02:27:21,439 --> 02:27:23,359
Storm water isn't just rain or melted

3746
02:27:23,359 --> 02:27:25,600
snow. It's any excess water that runs

3747
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:28,080
off hard surfaces like roads, driveways,

3748
02:27:28,080 --> 02:27:30,080
and rooftops. But where does that water

3749
02:27:30,080 --> 02:27:32,560
go? And why is managing it important?

3750
02:27:32,560 --> 02:27:34,399
Norfolk storm water systems include

3751
02:27:34,399 --> 02:27:36,640
pipes, ditches, catch basins, and ponds

3752
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:38,399
that work together to manage this

3753
02:27:38,399 --> 02:27:40,720
runoff. Storm water systems like ponds

3754
02:27:40,720 --> 02:27:42,880
slow the flow and allow dirt and

3755
02:27:42,880 --> 02:27:44,880
pollutants to settle and release cleaner

3756
02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:46,720
water into the environment. Without

3757
02:27:46,720 --> 02:27:48,800
proper management, storm water can flood

3758
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:51,040
basements, damage roads, and carried

3759
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:53,520
contaminants like oil, garbage, and salt

3760
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:55,520
into our rivers and lakes. That's why

3761
02:27:55,520 --> 02:27:57,520
Norfolk County created a dedicated storm

3762
02:27:57,520 --> 02:28:00,479
water team in 2024 to better understand

3763
02:28:00,479 --> 02:28:02,720
and maintain what we already have while

3764
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:04,800
planning for the future. This storm

3765
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:06,880
water pond in Port Dover helps to reduce

3766
02:28:06,880 --> 02:28:09,439
flooding and improve water quality. Over

3767
02:28:09,439 --> 02:28:11,280
time, sediment and pollutants build up

3768
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:13,120
within storm ponds, limiting their

3769
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:15,840
ability to hold water. This creates an

3770
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:18,080
ideal environment for algae and invasive

3771
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:20,880
plants like fragmitees to flourish. This

3772
02:28:20,880 --> 02:28:22,720
fast growing species can block out the

3773
02:28:22,720 --> 02:28:24,720
flow of water and crowd out native

3774
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:26,960
vegetation, reducing the habitat that

3775
02:28:26,960 --> 02:28:29,280
local wildlife depends on. To restore

3776
02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:31,439
this pond, we're removing the excess

3777
02:28:31,439 --> 02:28:33,120
sediment and transporting it to a

3778
02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:35,520
licensed site. We're also clearing

3779
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:37,680
invasive plants, reshaping the pond's

3780
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:39,920
banks, and upgrading the outlet that

3781
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:41,920
controls the flow of water. This work

3782
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:43,920
will improve water quality, allow the

3783
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:46,240
pond to hold more water, reduce flooding

3784
02:28:46,240 --> 02:28:48,240
risk, and provide a healthier habitat

3785
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:51,040
for plants and wildlife.

3786
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:52,800
Storm water management isn't just about

3787
02:28:52,800 --> 02:28:55,280
what you see on the surface. It's also

3788
02:28:55,280 --> 02:28:57,120
about the infrastructure underground. We

3789
02:28:57,120 --> 02:28:59,359
use special tools to locate, map, and

3790
02:28:59,359 --> 02:29:00,800
inspect the pipes and infrastructure

3791
02:29:00,800 --> 02:29:02,560
that connect the ponds to the wider

3792
02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:04,560
storm water system. This helps us to

3793
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:06,240
understand how water moves through our

3794
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:08,160
communities and identify issues that

3795
02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:10,479
need our attention. It's likely that you

3796
02:29:10,479 --> 02:29:12,319
or someone that you know has been

3797
02:29:12,319 --> 02:29:14,479
impacted by flooding, erosion, or

3798
02:29:14,479 --> 02:29:16,800
drainage issues. All of that connects

3799
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:18,560
back to storm water. Storm water

3800
02:29:18,560 --> 02:29:20,319
management isn't just about pipes and

3801
02:29:20,319 --> 02:29:22,000
ponds. It's about protecting the

3802
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:23,359
communities and the nature that

3803
02:29:23,359 --> 02:29:25,600
surrounds us. As Norfolk County grows,

3804
02:29:25,600 --> 02:29:27,359
so does our responsibility to manage

3805
02:29:27,359 --> 02:29:29,520
storm water. And that's our job. With

3806
02:29:29,520 --> 02:29:31,840
smart planning, hard work, and community

3807
02:29:31,840 --> 02:29:33,840
support, we're building a cleaner,

3808
02:29:33,840 --> 02:29:35,760
safer, and more resilient future

3809
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:43,270
together.

3810
02:29:43,280 --> 02:29:46,240
Welcome to Norfolk County, where land

3811
02:29:46,240 --> 02:29:49,359
meets lake and opportunity grows deep

3812
02:29:49,359 --> 02:29:51,520
and wide.

3813
02:29:51,520 --> 02:29:53,840
Located on the north shore of Lake Erie

3814
02:29:53,840 --> 02:29:56,560
in the heart of southwestern Ontario,

3815
02:29:56,560 --> 02:30:00,560
Norfolk spans 1600 square kilm, making

3816
02:30:00,560 --> 02:30:03,280
us one of Ontario's largest single tier

3817
02:30:03,280 --> 02:30:04,960
municipalities.

3818
02:30:04,960 --> 02:30:08,000
Our roots run deep in agriculture, food

3819
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:10,720
production, and advanced manufacturing,

3820
02:30:10,720 --> 02:30:13,200
industries that shaped our past and are

3821
02:30:13,200 --> 02:30:16,479
powering Ontario's future economy. Home

3822
02:30:16,479 --> 02:30:20,080
to over 70,000, we are bold, diverse,

3823
02:30:20,080 --> 02:30:23,359
and fiercely local. From Port Dober to

3824
02:30:23,359 --> 02:30:25,600
Longpoint, our folks are putting down

3825
02:30:25,600 --> 02:30:28,560
roots. Sometimes in sand, sometimes in

3826
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:31,200
soil, but always in a place they're

3827
02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:34,479
proud to call home. Big land, big

3828
02:30:34,479 --> 02:30:38,080
vision, unmatched potential. That's

3829
02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:41,830
Norfolk.

3830
02:30:41,840 --> 02:30:43,760
» Hey, Norol County. Hey, Norfol County.

3831
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:45,910
>> Hey, Norol County. Hey, Norfolk County.

3832
02:30:45,910 --> 02:30:45,920
» Hey, Norol County. Hey, Norfolk County.

3833
02:30:45,920 --> 02:30:46,950
>> Hey, Norfolk County.

3834
02:30:46,950 --> 02:30:46,960
» Hey, Norfolk County.

3835
02:30:46,960 --> 02:30:48,309
>> Hey, Norfolk County.

3836
02:30:48,309 --> 02:30:48,319
» Hey, Norfolk County.

3837
02:30:48,319 --> 02:30:49,910
>> My name is Bowden Wiki.

3838
02:30:49,910 --> 02:30:49,920
» My name is Bowden Wiki.

3839
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:51,670
>> My name is Lindsay Kalioski.

3840
02:30:51,670 --> 02:30:51,680
» My name is Lindsay Kalioski.

3841
02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:54,150
>> My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park

3842
02:30:54,150 --> 02:30:54,160
» My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park

3843
02:30:54,160 --> 02:30:54,560
student.

3844
02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:56,230
>> I work as an economic development

3845
02:30:56,230 --> 02:30:56,240
» I work as an economic development

3846
02:30:56,240 --> 02:30:57,040
coordinator.

3847
02:30:57,040 --> 02:30:59,510
>> I work on roads department in Delhigh.

3848
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:59,520
» I work on roads department in Delhigh.

3849
02:30:59,520 --> 02:31:01,830
>> I work as a supervisor for waste

3850
02:31:01,830 --> 02:31:01,840
» I work as a supervisor for waste

3851
02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:02,319
management.

3852
02:31:02,319 --> 02:31:04,230
>> I work as a committee coordinator in the

3853
02:31:04,230 --> 02:31:04,240
» I work as a committee coordinator in the

3854
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:05,280
clerk's department.

3855
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:07,830
>> Okay. What's the first question?

3856
02:31:07,830 --> 02:31:07,840
» Okay. What's the first question?

3857
02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:09,830
>> Um, what I love about my job is the

3858
02:31:09,830 --> 02:31:09,840
» Um, what I love about my job is the

3859
02:31:09,840 --> 02:31:10,240
people.

3860
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:12,469
>> All right. What do I love about my job?

3861
02:31:12,469 --> 02:31:12,479
» All right. What do I love about my job?

3862
02:31:12,479 --> 02:31:15,349
>> It's really the community. No day is the

3863
02:31:15,349 --> 02:31:15,359
» It's really the community. No day is the

3864
02:31:15,359 --> 02:31:15,840
same. It

3865
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:17,270
>> is cuz I get to work with a bunch of

3866
02:31:17,270 --> 02:31:17,280
» is cuz I get to work with a bunch of

3867
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:18,080
great guys.

3868
02:31:18,080 --> 02:31:20,630
>> It directly impacts really positively

3869
02:31:20,630 --> 02:31:20,640
» It directly impacts really positively

3870
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:22,399
the residents of Norfol County.

3871
02:31:22,399 --> 02:31:24,070
>> Uh I love the people that I get a chance

3872
02:31:24,070 --> 02:31:24,080
» Uh I love the people that I get a chance

3873
02:31:24,080 --> 02:31:24,960
to work with.

3874
02:31:24,960 --> 02:31:27,030
>> Every day is different. The mix of

3875
02:31:27,030 --> 02:31:27,040
» Every day is different. The mix of

3876
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:28,720
things is what makes me happy and keeps

3877
02:31:28,720 --> 02:31:29,439
me going.

3878
02:31:29,439 --> 02:31:32,070
>> First and foremost, the the community uh

3879
02:31:32,070 --> 02:31:32,080
» First and foremost, the the community uh

3880
02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:34,240
the people of this community are so

3881
02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:36,399
welcoming. Is the amazing team I get to

3882
02:31:36,399 --> 02:31:37,760
work with every day here at Northfor

3883
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:38,160
County.

3884
02:31:38,160 --> 02:31:40,070
>> Opportunity to help people uh to help my

3885
02:31:40,070 --> 02:31:40,080
» Opportunity to help people uh to help my

3886
02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:41,439
community. And one of the things I love

3887
02:31:41,439 --> 02:31:44,479
the most about my job is my team. I I

3888
02:31:44,479 --> 02:31:48,000
love who I work with and um what I do

3889
02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:50,479
while I'm here.

3890
02:31:50,479 --> 02:31:52,640
I get to work on projects and in

3891
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:55,040
programs that support our community that

3892
02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:57,359
help make lives better for the people

3893
02:31:57,359 --> 02:31:59,439
who live here, who work here, and who

3894
02:31:59,439 --> 02:32:02,399
come here to visit. Every day you feel

3895
02:32:02,399 --> 02:32:03,760
like you've accomplished something on

3896
02:32:03,760 --> 02:32:05,280
the way home and you're working with a

3897
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:07,600
bunch of great people who are equally as

3898
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:09,200
committed to the community and serving

3899
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:09,920
our communities.

3900
02:32:09,920 --> 02:32:12,710
>> The pace here is uh very good and uh

3901
02:32:12,710 --> 02:32:12,720
» The pace here is uh very good and uh

3902
02:32:12,720 --> 02:32:14,319
great uh work life balance.

3903
02:32:14,319 --> 02:32:16,070
>> They put wellness on the forefront. So

3904
02:32:16,070 --> 02:32:16,080
» They put wellness on the forefront. So

3905
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:17,439
I'm part of the Apple committee and

3906
02:32:17,439 --> 02:32:18,960
there's lots of opportunity at Norfol

3907
02:32:18,960 --> 02:32:19,439
County.

3908
02:32:19,439 --> 02:32:21,590
>> Flexible work hours, great work life

3909
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:21,600
» Flexible work hours, great work life

3910
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:24,240
balance, great staff, great friends, and

3911
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:25,600
of course what's not to love about

3912
02:32:25,600 --> 02:32:27,760
Norfol County for Ontario's garden.

3913
02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:29,510
>> I love helping people. I love helping

3914
02:32:29,510 --> 02:32:29,520
» I love helping people. I love helping

3915
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:31,600
residents and that's what makes Norfol

3916
02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:34,399
County a great place to come to work.

3917
02:32:34,399 --> 02:32:35,990
>> I chose to work for Norfolk County

3918
02:32:35,990 --> 02:32:36,000
» I chose to work for Norfolk County

3919
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:38,399
because I grew up in Delhigh so it's

3920
02:32:38,399 --> 02:32:40,240
close to home and I've enjoyed working

3921
02:32:40,240 --> 02:32:41,840
for my community and my friends and

3922
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:42,720
family.

3923
02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:45,030
>> Definitely 100% the people. There are

3924
02:32:45,030 --> 02:32:45,040
» Definitely 100% the people. There are

3925
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:46,720
lots of community champions and

3926
02:32:46,720 --> 02:32:49,040
everyone's been so kind and welcoming

3927
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:50,550
>> because I was born and raised here and I

3928
02:32:50,550 --> 02:32:50,560
» because I was born and raised here and I

3929
02:32:50,560 --> 02:32:51,600
wanted to help give back to my

3930
02:32:51,600 --> 02:32:52,080
community.

3931
02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:53,830
>> I love giving back to a community that I

3932
02:32:53,830 --> 02:32:53,840
» I love giving back to a community that I

3933
02:32:53,840 --> 02:32:55,920
grew up in. I love my team and I love

3934
02:32:55,920 --> 02:32:57,680
that I can leave a legacy here in the

3935
02:32:57,680 --> 02:32:58,479
Twin Cities.

3936
02:32:58,479 --> 02:33:00,550
>> When I had the opportunity to come home

3937
02:33:00,550 --> 02:33:00,560
» When I had the opportunity to come home

3938
02:33:00,560 --> 02:33:03,040
and and serve the public, I jumped at

3939
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:05,840
that opportunity. I started my career as

3940
02:33:05,840 --> 02:33:07,920
an area planner for this place. It's

3941
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:09,600
interesting that the end of my career,

3942
02:33:09,600 --> 02:33:11,439
this opportunity came up to come back

3943
02:33:11,439 --> 02:33:13,760
and make Norfolk a better place. Is

3944
02:33:13,760 --> 02:33:15,840
being able to live and work in the

3945
02:33:15,840 --> 02:33:18,720
community that uh we're a part of. I did

3946
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:21,920
choose to work for Norfolk because I'm

3947
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:24,720
an engineer by trade and I like to solve

3948
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:26,960
problems and realized how rewarding it

3949
02:33:26,960 --> 02:33:28,640
was to be able to contribute to

3950
02:33:28,640 --> 02:33:30,479
initiatives within the area that I've

3951
02:33:30,479 --> 02:33:33,200
always called home. I love it here. You

3952
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:35,200
should consider uh joining the public

3953
02:33:35,200 --> 02:33:36,960
sector, joining the municipality because

3954
02:33:36,960 --> 02:33:38,880
it's so diverse. There's something for

3955
02:33:38,880 --> 02:33:40,640
everyone. Local government is the

3956
02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:42,319
closest to the people. We get to work

3957
02:33:42,319 --> 02:33:44,720
with our residents day in and day out

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02:33:44,720 --> 02:33:46,720
and there is something for you in every

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02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:53,750
department for Norfolk.

3960
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:56,160
» Hey Norfol County, do you know how your

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02:33:56,160 --> 02:33:58,240
property taxes are spent? Let's take a

3962
02:33:58,240 --> 02:34:00,720
look together. First, we need to start

3963
02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:03,439
with Norfol County's budget. Every year,

3964
02:34:03,439 --> 02:34:05,359
staff and council confirm the funds

3965
02:34:05,359 --> 02:34:06,960
required to be collected from the

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02:34:06,960 --> 02:34:09,760
property taxes paid by you and 35,000

3967
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:12,560
other Norfol County taxpayers.

3968
02:34:12,560 --> 02:34:14,240
These funds contribute to Norfol

3969
02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:16,560
County's levy and capital budgets, which

3970
02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:19,520
lay out how your tax dollars are used.

3971
02:34:19,520 --> 02:34:21,600
The capital budget is also funded by the

3972
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:23,280
rate budget, the funds paid by

3973
02:34:23,280 --> 02:34:25,280
residents, known as rateayers, for water

3974
02:34:25,280 --> 02:34:27,040
and wastewater services through their

3975
02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:29,040
monthly water bill.

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02:34:29,040 --> 02:34:30,880
The levy budget is used to deliver

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02:34:30,880 --> 02:34:32,720
programs and services for residents

3978
02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:34,880
ranging from emergency services like

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02:34:34,880 --> 02:34:37,760
fire and EMS, waste services like

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02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:40,800
garbage collection, recreation services

3981
02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:43,760
like arenas, trails, and parks,

3982
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:45,680
maintenance services like snow removal

3983
02:34:45,680 --> 02:34:48,479
and road repair, and human services like

3984
02:34:48,479 --> 02:34:50,479
homelessness prevention and health

3985
02:34:50,479 --> 02:34:54,240
education programs. Our levy budget also

3986
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:56,880
supports our libraries and museums,

3987
02:34:56,880 --> 02:34:59,439
administrative services for council, and

3988
02:34:59,439 --> 02:35:01,760
the many staff who keep Norfol County

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02:35:01,760 --> 02:35:03,520
operating.

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02:35:03,520 --> 02:35:05,840
Services like recreation programs for

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02:35:05,840 --> 02:35:08,560
children, adults, and seniors and our

3992
02:35:08,560 --> 02:35:10,800
Ride Norfolk transit program are also

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02:35:10,800 --> 02:35:13,040
paid for with property taxes and

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02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:16,000
supplemented by user fees.

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02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:18,319
And across Ontario, a portion of each

3996
02:35:18,319 --> 02:35:21,120
resident's property tax bill goes to our

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02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:23,359
local school boards.

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02:35:23,359 --> 02:35:25,120
About a third of the property taxes

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02:35:25,120 --> 02:35:26,960
collected are allocated to the capital

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02:35:26,960 --> 02:35:29,200
budget or reserves for future capital

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02:35:29,200 --> 02:35:31,439
spending, which includes other funding

4002
02:35:31,439 --> 02:35:33,359
sources like the federal and provincial

4003
02:35:33,359 --> 02:35:37,200
government, reserve funds, grants, debt,

4004
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:39,520
and development charges, as well as

4005
02:35:39,520 --> 02:35:41,920
funds from the rate budget. Together,

4006
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:43,600
the capital budget goes toward

4007
02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:45,600
longerterm projects such as our

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02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:47,439
investments in water and wastewater

4009
02:35:47,439 --> 02:35:49,760
facilities, as well as building and

4010
02:35:49,760 --> 02:35:53,040
renewing our parks, roadways, pools,

4011
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:55,680
arenas, and other things we use every

4012
02:35:55,680 --> 02:35:58,479
day. So, the next time you hear someone

4013
02:35:58,479 --> 02:36:00,800
ask, "Where are my property taxes

4014
02:36:00,800 --> 02:36:03,439
going?" you can tell them to look down,

4015
02:36:03,439 --> 02:36:06,080
look up, and look forward. Your tax

4016
02:36:06,080 --> 02:36:08,640
dollars are at work all around you every

4017
02:36:08,640 --> 02:36:11,439
day. When you visit your local park with

4018
02:36:11,439 --> 02:36:13,840
your family, drive to work on cleared

4019
02:36:13,840 --> 02:36:16,960
roads, register for swimming lessons,

4020
02:36:16,960 --> 02:36:18,240
get rid of that old couch you've

4021
02:36:18,240 --> 02:36:20,720
outgrown, or contact Service Norfolk

4022
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:22,479
about that pothole on your street that

4023
02:36:22,479 --> 02:36:24,560
needs to be fixed.

4024
02:36:24,560 --> 02:36:26,720
Your tax dollars are also being invested

4025
02:36:26,720 --> 02:36:28,720
in initiatives to improve the lives of

4026
02:36:28,720 --> 02:36:30,720
Norfol County residents in the years to

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02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:33,040
come to make Norfol County a better

4028
02:36:33,040 --> 02:36:35,760
place for future generations.

4029
02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:37,760
While Norfol County's budget is prepared

4030
02:36:37,760 --> 02:36:40,399
once a year, your feedback helps us make

4031
02:36:40,399 --> 02:36:42,880
decisions and plan for the future. We

4032
02:36:42,880 --> 02:36:44,399
are committed to listening to you so

4033
02:36:44,399 --> 02:36:46,000
that our budget reflects what is

4034
02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:48,479
important to our community. Learn more

4035
02:36:48,479 --> 02:36:50,319
about Norfol County's budget at

4036
02:36:50,319 --> 02:36:52,960
norol.ca/

4037
02:36:52,960 --> 02:36:54,630
>> Today we're announcing an exciting

4038
02:36:54,630 --> 02:36:54,640
» Today we're announcing an exciting

4039
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:56,560
partnership with Scotland and Norfol

4040
02:36:56,560 --> 02:36:58,560
County Economic Development and we're

4041
02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:00,560
transforming transport trailers into

4042
02:37:00,560 --> 02:37:02,720
mobile ambassadors. We're showcasing

4043
02:37:02,720 --> 02:37:05,120
Norfolk's story of opportunity,

4044
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:07,120
excellence, and quality of life across

4045
02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:09,600
all of North America. And Scotland is

4046
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:11,520
the ideal partner with an amazing

4047
02:37:11,520 --> 02:37:13,359
logistics network and will help us share

4048
02:37:13,359 --> 02:37:45,670
our story all across North America.

4049
02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:48,560
Heat.

4050
02:37:48,560 --> 02:38:03,670
Hey. Hey. Hey.

4051
02:38:03,680 --> 02:38:06,479
Uh oh. Woah.

4052
02:38:06,479 --> 02:38:26,950
Oh. Oh.

4053
02:38:26,960 --> 02:38:51,349
Uh-oh.

4054
02:38:51,359 --> 02:38:53,600
Hi, I'm Jacob and I'm here to take you

4055
02:38:53,600 --> 02:38:55,520
behind the scenes on a capital project

4056
02:38:55,520 --> 02:38:58,399
in Norfol County. We begin planning

4057
02:38:58,399 --> 02:39:00,319
capital projects by analyzing our

4058
02:39:00,319 --> 02:39:02,800
infrastructure needs related to roads,

4059
02:39:02,800 --> 02:39:05,439
water manes, storm and sanitary sewers,

4060
02:39:05,439 --> 02:39:08,080
as well as bridges. We assess their

4061
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:10,319
overall condition, age, and servicing

4062
02:39:10,319 --> 02:39:12,399
requirements. This provides a solid

4063
02:39:12,399 --> 02:39:14,240
foundation to ensure Norfolk has the

4064
02:39:14,240 --> 02:39:15,840
hard infrastructure for current and

4065
02:39:15,840 --> 02:39:18,160
future needs. Once a project is

4066
02:39:18,160 --> 02:39:20,240
determined and approved by council, we

4067
02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:22,000
retain an engineer to complete the

4068
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:25,040
design. During this stage, we engage the

4069
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:26,399
public through public information

4070
02:39:26,399 --> 02:39:28,240
centers or postings on the county

4071
02:39:28,240 --> 02:39:30,479
website to inform them of the upcoming

4072
02:39:30,479 --> 02:39:32,319
project and provide an opportunity to

4073
02:39:32,319 --> 02:39:35,120
share feedback. After the design is

4074
02:39:35,120 --> 02:39:36,880
completed and all approvals are in

4075
02:39:36,880 --> 02:39:38,960
place, we hire a contractor through a

4076
02:39:38,960 --> 02:39:40,960
public bidding process. During the

4077
02:39:40,960 --> 02:39:43,280
construction phase, we track progress,

4078
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:45,439
budget, and continue to engage with the

4079
02:39:45,439 --> 02:39:47,359
public. We also work with other

4080
02:39:47,359 --> 02:39:48,960
departments to ensure the overall

4081
02:39:48,960 --> 02:39:51,520
success of the project. Once complete,

4082
02:39:51,520 --> 02:39:53,760
we report and track any warranty issues

4083
02:39:53,760 --> 02:39:56,479
for 2 years. We measure a project's

4084
02:39:56,479 --> 02:39:58,240
success by its ability to enhance

4085
02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:00,319
infrastructure and positively impact

4086
02:40:00,319 --> 02:40:03,359
residents. As a Norfol County employee,

4087
02:40:03,359 --> 02:40:05,280
I enjoy building the community that has

4088
02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:07,439
given me so much. Thank you for taking

4089
02:40:07,439 --> 02:40:08,960
the time to join me on this

4090
02:40:08,960 --> 02:40:18,710
behind-the-scenes tour.

4091
02:40:18,720 --> 02:40:20,880
Deputations are a way for you and all

4092
02:40:20,880 --> 02:40:22,720
residents of Norfol County to speak

4093
02:40:22,720 --> 02:40:24,720
before council about relevant matters in

4094
02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:27,280
our community.

4095
02:40:27,280 --> 02:40:30,080
To begin, search www.norfocount

4096
02:40:30,080 --> 02:40:34,150
norfocount.ca.

4097
02:40:34,160 --> 02:40:37,040
Then select the government tab.

4098
02:40:37,040 --> 02:40:39,280
Under the government tab, select provide

4099
02:40:39,280 --> 02:40:41,840
deputation/sp speak at a council or

4100
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:44,720
committee meeting. This page provides

4101
02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:46,000
general information regarding

4102
02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:48,240
deputations. Under the subheading

4103
02:40:48,240 --> 02:40:50,479
register to speak, click the public

4104
02:40:50,479 --> 02:40:52,800
hearing/deputation form link to

4105
02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:55,520
pre-register your deputation.

4106
02:40:55,520 --> 02:40:57,280
Notice of collection. By checking the

4107
02:40:57,280 --> 02:40:58,720
notice of collection box, you are

4108
02:40:58,720 --> 02:41:00,960
agreeing to the above statement.

4109
02:41:00,960 --> 02:41:02,800
Selecting the type of meeting you want.

4110
02:41:02,800 --> 02:41:04,399
There are several types of meetings that

4111
02:41:04,399 --> 02:41:06,560
allow deputations. Please listen closely

4112
02:41:06,560 --> 02:41:09,280
as we explain each option. Council

4113
02:41:09,280 --> 02:41:11,439
meeting. Council deputations must

4114
02:41:11,439 --> 02:41:12,960
pertain to a matter listed on the

4115
02:41:12,960 --> 02:41:15,040
upcoming meeting agenda. For the

4116
02:41:15,040 --> 02:41:16,560
remaining meeting choices, you may

4117
02:41:16,560 --> 02:41:18,399
present a deputation if the topic

4118
02:41:18,399 --> 02:41:19,760
pertains to the committee you are

4119
02:41:19,760 --> 02:41:22,000
presenting to. Once you select the type

4120
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:23,359
of meeting you want to deliver your

4121
02:41:23,359 --> 02:41:25,600
deputation, you can complete the rest of

4122
02:41:25,600 --> 02:41:27,920
the document. Now, choose whether you

4123
02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:29,760
will attend the meeting in person or

4124
02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:32,080
virtually.

4125
02:41:32,080 --> 02:41:33,920
Finally, select if you will be providing

4126
02:41:33,920 --> 02:41:36,240
materials during your deputation. If you

4127
02:41:36,240 --> 02:41:38,160
have materials for distribution during

4128
02:41:38,160 --> 02:41:40,080
the council meeting, please bring 15

4129
02:41:40,080 --> 02:41:42,399
hard copies for council and staff. Now,

4130
02:41:42,399 --> 02:41:45,760
click next to move to step two.

4131
02:41:45,760 --> 02:41:47,760
In step two, please fill out your

4132
02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:49,920
personal information.

4133
02:41:49,920 --> 02:41:51,520
Once your personal information is

4134
02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:54,319
completed, click next.

4135
02:41:54,319 --> 02:41:56,399
Lastly, review your information and

4136
02:41:56,399 --> 02:41:58,880
select next to submit your form. You

4137
02:41:58,880 --> 02:42:00,240
have now completed the deputation

4138
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:01,920
request form. You will receive a

4139
02:42:01,920 --> 02:42:03,359
confirmation email from the clerk's

4140
02:42:03,359 --> 02:42:04,640
department that they've received your

4141
02:42:04,640 --> 02:42:06,800
request. Next, we will talk about what

4142
02:42:06,800 --> 02:42:09,520
to do on the day of your deputation.

4143
02:42:09,520 --> 02:42:11,190
>> So, you've received your approval and

4144
02:42:11,190 --> 02:42:11,200
» So, you've received your approval and

4145
02:42:11,200 --> 02:42:13,280
the day of your deputation is upon you.

4146
02:42:13,280 --> 02:42:16,000
For starters, council is located here at

4147
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:17,760
50 Colbert Street. Now, there's two

4148
02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:19,439
entrances you can use when you arrive.

4149
02:42:19,439 --> 02:42:22,399
One is here located off Corburn and one

4150
02:42:22,399 --> 02:42:24,800
located off Talbage Street. When you

4151
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:26,399
arrive, you'll have three main options

4152
02:42:26,399 --> 02:42:28,399
to park. The first is to park at the

4153
02:42:28,399 --> 02:42:30,080
Simco Town Center Mall, which is where

4154
02:42:30,080 --> 02:42:37,670
Food Basics is located.

4155
02:42:37,680 --> 02:42:39,439
Your second option is 2-hour street

4156
02:42:39,439 --> 02:42:41,520
parking on Court Street. And your third

4157
02:42:41,520 --> 02:42:43,760
option is 2-hour street parking on L

4158
02:42:43,760 --> 02:42:45,680
Street. If you can't find any parking at

4159
02:42:45,680 --> 02:42:47,520
any of those three options, don't worry.

4160
02:42:47,520 --> 02:42:49,040
Downtown Simco has plenty of street

4161
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:51,439
parking in all of the surrounding areas.

4162
02:42:51,439 --> 02:42:52,960
If you enter through the Cobburn street

4163
02:42:52,960 --> 02:42:54,240
doors, you'll have to make your way

4164
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:55,359
through the building to get to council

4165
02:42:55,359 --> 02:42:57,280
chambers. But don't worry, if you

4166
02:42:57,280 --> 02:42:59,040
require any assistance, you can feel

4167
02:42:59,040 --> 02:43:00,479
free to ask Service Norfol at the front

4168
02:43:00,479 --> 02:43:02,560
desk.

4169
02:43:02,560 --> 02:43:04,800
Make your way along this path and you'll

4170
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:08,240
end up in the main lob. To your left,

4171
02:43:08,240 --> 02:43:10,080
there'll be an elevator. You can either

4172
02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:11,840
ring the bell or go ask the people at

4173
02:43:11,840 --> 02:43:13,600
the front desk for assistance. If you

4174
02:43:13,600 --> 02:43:15,040
don't need to use the elevator, you can

4175
02:43:15,040 --> 02:43:17,120
head on up the green staircase and go up

4176
02:43:17,120 --> 02:43:19,520
to council doors. If you enter through

4177
02:43:19,520 --> 02:43:21,439
the Talbet Street doors, the elevator

4178
02:43:21,439 --> 02:43:23,359
will be immediately in front of you or

4179
02:43:23,359 --> 02:43:25,120
the green staircase will be ready for

4180
02:43:25,120 --> 02:43:26,720
you to go up and deliver your

4181
02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:28,240
presentation.

4182
02:43:28,240 --> 02:43:29,439
Once you've reached the top of the

4183
02:43:29,439 --> 02:43:31,359
stairs, you'll have made it to council

4184
02:43:31,359 --> 02:43:35,190
chambers.

4185
02:43:35,200 --> 02:43:38,870
Feel

4186
02:43:38,880 --> 02:43:41,439
free to take a seat here or here and

4187
02:43:41,439 --> 02:43:43,040
wait for council to call your name when

4188
02:43:43,040 --> 02:43:45,120
it's time to present.

4189
02:43:45,120 --> 02:43:46,960
When council calls your name, make your

4190
02:43:46,960 --> 02:43:48,800
way to the podium and ensure that you

4191
02:43:48,800 --> 02:43:50,399
don't walk between the railing and the

4192
02:43:50,399 --> 02:43:52,479
chairs on your way there. When you

4193
02:43:52,479 --> 02:43:54,240
arrive at the podium, adjust it to your

4194
02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:56,000
desired height using the arrow buttons

4195
02:43:56,000 --> 02:43:57,600
and turn the microphone on using the

4196
02:43:57,600 --> 02:44:00,319
button on the right.

4197
02:44:00,319 --> 02:44:01,920
If you're giving your deputation in

4198
02:44:01,920 --> 02:44:03,840
front of council, begin by saying

4199
02:44:03,840 --> 02:44:05,359
through the mayor. If you're giving it

4200
02:44:05,359 --> 02:44:07,600
in front of a committee, begin by saying

4201
02:44:07,600 --> 02:44:10,080
through the chair. Then clearly state

4202
02:44:10,080 --> 02:44:12,240
your name and address and you'll have 5

4203
02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:14,720
minutes to give your presentation. Upon

4204
02:44:14,720 --> 02:44:16,479
having 1 minute remaining, the chair

4205
02:44:16,479 --> 02:44:18,080
will give you notice. When you're

4206
02:44:18,080 --> 02:44:19,840
finished your presentation, council may

4207
02:44:19,840 --> 02:44:21,520
have questions for you. Ensure that you

4208
02:44:21,520 --> 02:44:22,960
always begin your answer by saying

4209
02:44:22,960 --> 02:44:24,880
through the mayor or through the chair

4210
02:44:24,880 --> 02:44:27,760
to counselor and their last name. If you

4211
02:44:27,760 --> 02:44:29,760
can't answer the question, that's okay.

4212
02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:31,279
Inform council that you'll gather more

4213
02:44:31,279 --> 02:44:33,840
information and get back to them. After

4214
02:44:33,840 --> 02:44:35,279
that, council will have heard out what

4215
02:44:35,279 --> 02:44:36,640
you've had to say and they'll take

4216
02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:38,080
appropriate action as they deem

4217
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:40,800
necessary. And now you finished your

4218
02:44:40,800 --> 02:44:43,200
deputation. You can either have a seat

4219
02:44:43,200 --> 02:44:45,680
and watch the rest of the meeting or you

4220
02:44:45,680 --> 02:44:46,960
can leave through the door that you came

4221
02:44:46,960 --> 02:44:48,960
in and ensure that you leave as quietly

4222
02:44:48,960 --> 02:44:56,550
as possible.

4223
02:44:56,560 --> 02:57:15,190
Hey, Norfolk County. My name is Anna and

4224
02:57:15,200 --> 02:57:16,960
Well, well, the sound was all off. So,

4225
02:57:16,960 --> 02:57:19,920
anyway, and I'm sure in council chamber.

4226
02:57:19,920 --> 02:57:22,389
>> Welcome back everyone. Motion to

4227
02:57:22,389 --> 02:57:22,399
» Welcome back everyone. Motion to

4228
02:57:22,399 --> 02:57:24,640
reconvene in open session 3:56 p.m.

4229
02:57:24,640 --> 02:57:26,800
Moved by councelor Van Passen. Seconded

4230
02:57:26,800 --> 02:57:30,160
by councelor Dthy. All in favor? That is

4231
02:57:30,160 --> 02:57:34,960
carried. And to report out item 18.1 was

4232
02:57:34,960 --> 02:57:37,359
received as information. 18.2 was

4233
02:57:37,359 --> 02:57:39,359
received a verbal update as information

4234
02:57:39,359 --> 02:57:42,240
and direction was provided. 18.3

4235
02:57:42,240 --> 02:57:45,760
received as information and 18.4

4236
02:57:45,760 --> 02:57:47,680
uh also verbal update received as

4237
02:57:47,680 --> 02:57:50,640
information. Anything I missed there?

4238
02:57:50,640 --> 02:57:57,349
>> Great. Confirming bylaw uh motion to

4239
02:57:57,359 --> 02:57:59,520
let's see here. Confirm the proceedings

4240
02:57:59,520 --> 02:58:01,040
of the council of Norfolk County. This

4241
02:58:01,040 --> 02:58:03,200
regular council meeting held on the 27th

4242
02:58:03,200 --> 02:58:06,319
day of January 2026 be read a first,

4243
02:58:06,319 --> 02:58:07,680
second, and third time and finally

4244
02:58:07,680 --> 02:58:10,720
passed in open session. Moved by

4245
02:58:10,720 --> 02:58:12,399
councelor Michelle and seconded by

4246
02:58:12,399 --> 02:58:15,920
councelor Barry. All in favor? Carried.

4247
02:58:15,920 --> 02:58:17,840
And councelor Michelle is moving

4248
02:58:17,840 --> 02:58:23,040
adjourment 3:57 p.m. Seconded by

4249
02:58:23,040 --> 02:58:26,080
councelor Dathy. All in favor carried.

4250
02:58:26,080 --> 02:58:28,960
Thank you very much everyone. Good

4251
02:58:28,960 --> 02:58:31,960
afternoon.