Okay, good afternoon everyone. Welcome
uh members and guests and staff. It is
the January 27th, 2026 council meeting.
And a quick reminder that our meetings
are web streamed and televised. So, if
everyone could take a moment to ensure
their their phones are on silent, that
would be greatly appreciated.
With that, I call January 27th, 2026
council meeting to order and note that
councelor Vandenishi, Huffman, and Barry
are present today. However, they're
attending virtually. All other members
are present.
The municipality of Norfol County is
committed to furthering truth and
reconciliation in our communities. We
recognize the historical and current
contributions of indigenous peoples
throughout Canada and particularly in
Norfolk County that have added to the
rich cultural and social fabric that
exists here today. We will strive to
continually strengthen and develop the
spirit of respect, cooperation, and
collaboration to the mutual benefit of
all Norfol County residents.
Changes to the agenda. We have two.
The first is to add a deputation from
Alan McBride regarding agenda item
12.1.1
215 Victoria Street Simco. And then the
second is to move the agenda item 12.1.1
staff report uh on that same matter to
after the deputations.
Is there any other addition or change
request from council members?
Seeing none. Oh, okay. We need a
two-thirds majority uh to wave the rules
of order and add those. Is there a mover
and a seconder? Councelor Columbus,
Councelor Bruntton. All in favor? And
then to accept the amended agenda moved
by Councelor Michelle, Councelor Duffy.
All in favor?
Carried. Thank you. Are there any
declarations of pecuniary interest
today?
Councelor Columbus.
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yes, I've got a
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yes, I've got a
conflict to report with respect to
agenda item 10.1. This is the council
and committee minutes item 8.2.1.
It's a water wastewater collection
policy and uh I've got a conflict with
respect to portion dealing with the
landlord and tenant component of that
policy
according to what the integrity
commissioner informs me.
>> Okay. Um, please feel free to just turn
» Okay. Um, please feel free to just turn
on your microphone and remind me if I
don't
remember when we get to that section,
but I'll make a note of it. Anyone else?
Did I miss anyone?
Okay, great. We have uh early close
session. Just one item that we have to
deal with prior to uh our open session
meeting.
I'm looking for a mover for the
following motion that council enter into
close session at 10:04 p.m. to discuss
items pursuant to section 2392H
of the Municipal Act 2001 as amended as
a subject matter pertains to information
explicitly supplied in confidence to the
municipality or local board by Canada, a
province or territory or a crown agency
of any of them. Moved by councelor
Vampassen, seconded by
councelor Duffy. All in favor?
Carried unanimously. Thanks. How long?
Roughly
5 10 minutes. We should be back very
quickly.
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Hey, Norfol County. I'm Chris and I'm
here to take you behind the scenes to
show you how Norfol County manages storm
water in our towns and communities.
Storm water isn't just rain or melted
snow. It's any excess water that runs
off hard surfaces like roads, driveways,
and rooftops. But where does that water
go? And why is managing it important?
Norfolk storm water systems include
pipes, ditches, catch basins, and ponds
that work together to manage this
runoff. Storm water systems like ponds
slow the flow and allow dirt and
pollutants to settle and release cleaner
water into the environment. Without
proper management, storm water can flood
basement, damage roads, and carry
contaminants like oil, garbage, and salt
into our rivers and lakes. That's why
Norol County created a dedicated storm
water team in 2024 to better understand
and maintain what we already have while
planning for the future. This storm
water pond in Port Dover helps to reduce
flooding and improve water quality. Over
time, sediment and pollutants build up
within storm ponds, limiting their
ability to hold water. This creates an
ideal environment for algae and invasive
plants like fragmitees to flourish. This
fast growing species can block out the
flow of water and crowd out native
vegetation reducing the habitat that
local
Okay, that was very speedy. Thanks,
staff. Uh, move in a second or to
reconvene and open session at 1:10.
Moved by councelor Van Passen, seconded
by
councelor Michelle. All in favor and
reporting out the report. Uh, let's see.
4.1 on the agenda was received as
information. We have nothing else to
report. Correct, Mr. Clerk? Okay.
Consent items 5.1. We have the 2026
interim property tax levy CS260002.
I'm looking for a motion to receive
consent item one as presented.
Councelor Van Passin and Councelor
Huffman. All in favor?
Carried. Two communication items before
council today. 6.1 is a letter from Todd
Stanick and Peter Krauss of Norfolk
General Hospital, a letter of
appreciation. And the second is
Longpoint Conservation Authority uh the
Roma 2026 package.
A mover and a seconder please to receive
both of those as information.
Councelor Columbus moves councelor Barry
seconds. All in favor?
Carried. Great. We'll move along to
deputations. We have three now that
we've changed the agenda. First, we have
Scott from Valley Consulting and this is
concerning agenda item 12.1.1 215
Victoria Street.
Welcome whenever you're ready.
Uh thank you, Madame Mayor and uh
council. Uh here to talk about the uh
development proposed at 215 Victoria
Street. Uh next slide, please.
So, back in October, uh the original
application was brought forward um that
included a uh a mid-rise building with
45 residential units. Um a mix of one
and two bedroom um that street facing
facade uh perimeter landscaping. Uh we
were showing access via uh Austin
Crescent and Donley Drive South as you
can see on the original site plan uh
with no access uh proposed off of uh off
of Victoria Street. Next slide, please.
So following that meeting, we we did
have concerns from uh both staff and
public. Um since October, we've been
working with both uh Norfolk County
staff and receiving input in input from
the public um to try to uh reduce some
of the impacts uh and the concerns that
were raised at that October meeting. Um
particularly the concerns we were heard
were uh were density and building
height. Um not enough parking on the
area. Um there was particular concern of
spillover parking into Austin Crescent.
um traffic concerns along Donley Drive.
Um the number and location of proposed
entrances to the site with both Donley
and uh Austin Crescent and sort of the
issue of with uh the way it was set up
that uh it might be used for a shortcut
uh through the existing subdivision into
uh Austin Crescent there. So since then,
next slide please. We've worked uh with
staff uh to bring back an updated uh
application. Um they spent four months
um since then trying to work to update
the application to include a number of
changes um includes site compatibility.
So maintaining those large setbacks from
the existing residential area and being
as close to the road as possible while
maintaining that uh appealing street uh
facade. Um adjusting the building
orientation um so that primary entrance
is now uh facing towards Victoria
Street, vice facing inwards to the uh
development. um the height and density.
So the reduction of five stories to four
stories. Um so now uh the reduction in
units to 23 one uh onebedrooms, 12
two-bedroom units. Um so a total
reduction in 10 units from 35 uh from uh
45. Big thing here uh with that
reduction in the height and the density,
uh the on-site parking uh complies with
all zoning. Um so it meets the zoning
bylaw requirements for parking um from
the standards set in the bylaw. um the
adjusted vehicle access. So again uh
both sites uh the access off Donley uh
has been removed and the access off uh
Austin Crescent has been removed uh with
the sole access provided off Victoria.
The intent there is to reduce uh people
using uh Donley Drive, encourage traffic
out um anybody heading north uh will
take uh Victoria out to Ireland Road,
head north to Highway 3 and to wherever
it is they may go. Obviously, we can't
force people to do that, but with that
site orientation, it was felt it would
help encourage traffic flows in those
directions.
Uh, next slide, please.
So, here's our updated site plan. Uh,
again, it's very similar from the where
sort of the building is in relation to
the uh existing residential development,
but certainly a reconfiguration of the
parking lot. Um that site entrance as
you can see on the uh the south uh is
the inout route um off Victoria. It's
confirmed. I know we did chat about
where is the actual property line. So
that area in red um is already owned by
Norfol County. That was road widening
that was taken back in the 80s or '9s.
Uh I'd have to go back on title to see
when that actually happened, but it's
already taken into account. All the
requirements are based off the the
property line which is that thick black
line uh that runs along uh Victoria uh
to provide that updated uh site plan.
And then again like we said the
vehicular access uh it was the key uh
configuration here with the removal from
Donley and uh Austin Crescent and then
obviously the reduction in density from
uh five floors to four. Next slide
please.
>> One minute remaining.
» One minute remaining.
So, just provided some elevations to
provide some sort of context of what it
would look like from the street. Um,
again, if you um down by um coming in on
Robinson by the golf course there, um
that's a four-story building to just
give some height perspective of what a
four-story looks like. Uh next slide,
please.
So, again, as you can see the changes,
there's been a lot of uh eliminating
requirements. Um the only introduction
is uh that uh special provision for
restricting the building to four heights
or four floors instead of uh five. Um
the bylaw has definitely been simplified
uh with these elimination of
requirements.
Next slide please.
Next steps can't commit to timelines.
Here is what a potential timeline could
look like. Obviously the site still
needs to go through extensive site plan
review the detailed uh engineering of
the site. Um, I encourage uh council to
ask any questions they might have about
that. Um, but that's a general sort of
what would be hoped for, but can't be
guaranteed. Next slide, please.
>> I can take any questions council may
» I can take any questions council may
have.
>> Perfect timing. Thank you, Scott.
» Perfect timing. Thank you, Scott.
Questions from council.
» Councelor Bruntton.
>> Thank you, Mayor Martin. Just very
» Thank you, Mayor Martin. Just very
quickly, uh Scott, is this uh a slab on
grade or is there a basement for
utilities? How does it work?
>> I believe there is a Yes, there will be
» I believe there is a Yes, there will be
a basement. I believe the storage will
be in the basement, utilities, that type
of thing in the basement.
>> Okay. Thank you,
» Okay. Thank you,
>> Councelor Duffy.
» Councelor Duffy.
>> Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,
» Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,
Scott, thanks for your work on this and
to your client. I appreciate that uh the
concerns of the residents were really,
for the most part, from what I can see,
um listened to. So, I I appreciate and
respect that. I'm curious on the I think
I'm looking at the norththeast side. So
a butting sort of there's a there's a
row of homes there on Donley. Is there I
think it's in purple. And sorry, I've
just got my iPad back cuz it was
acting up. Is there any landscape buffer
along there?
>> So both the the north and the eastern uh
» So both the the north and the eastern uh
property lines um will require the solid
wood fence. Um generally I think it's uh
the 3 m or 2 meter high fence whatever
the site plan requirements are. So it's
a solid wood fence. There can be also
other landscaping for bushes things like
that to reduce any sort of that impact
of that reduction from the the 3 m to
the 2 m for the uh distance from the
parking. Um so that can be in included
in the uh site plan requirements to make
sure we're reducing any of those uh
impacts um from having that reduction
from uh 3 to 2 m. Okay, I think that's
all I have. Thank you.
>> Did I miss anyone online?
» Did I miss anyone online?
Oh, I think we're we're good. Thanks,
Scott. Let's receive all three
deputations as information at once, if
that's okay, and we'll move along to
Margaret Trucker, which is item 7.2 on
our agenda. Same item of discussion.
Uh 215 Victoria Street, Simco, welcome.
You have five minutes. I can let you
know when you have one minute remaining,
but I think last time you were right on
schedule, so take it away.
Okay, mayor and council, I appreciate
the opportunity to speak once again. In
the meeting on October 8th, 2025, the
major concerns mentioned were traffic,
on-site parking, and where the entrance
and exit would be, and children walking
to and from school. Um, some of these
issues seem to have been addressed and
it was stated that water and sewer could
handle this extra build and um, have all
the bylaws now been met such as distance
from the road and line of sight. Um,
other concerns that I have are several.
In 2024, the provincial government put
in place the get it done act where they
wanted one and a half million homes
built by 2031.
This seems to place
uh
stress on the um building that the
municipal planning boards have to
approve. Um has an assessment been done
to determine the need for this type of
housing? Is all of the building in the
county meant to reach the expectation of
the provincial government in spite of
what we want? If this build is approved,
we do not know how long it would take.
During construction, the locals would be
coping with heavy vehicle traffic,
noise, dust, and dirt. It's a common
thing in a building site, but a privacy
fence was mentioned previously, but who
would benefit? The residents on the
first floor and closest neighbors. There
would be no privacy for others who would
have exposure to residents of the
midrise. The outside enjoyment of our
properties could be affected during and
after the build. Is it an unknown as to
what happens to property values when an
apartment building is built in a low
density community?
Will homes close to the build be
overshadowed or will it be situated on
the property to minimize that? And it
seems that that's been taken into
consideration.
This is one build, but others are in the
works. How will all of these builds
affect our community? Adding this build
into the mix can place further strain on
our hospital, which already struggles to
meet the needs of the current
population. Can our schools accommodate
more children? And how many more
emergency medical service personnel,
firemen, and policemen would we need?
Considering the lack of industry or jobs
in the county, would it be safe to
assume there would be more commuters on
already crowded highways?
Given that this is a low density area, I
still don't believe that this is an
appropriate location for the build in
spite of the changes that have been
made. It simply would not fit in. And no
one making the decisions about this
lives or would be affected by that
build. And the local people who are
right there on the spot would be when
it's in construction and after. Thank
you for your time.
>> Thank you for your deputation. Are there
» Thank you for your deputation. Are there
any questions for Margaret?
No, that's okay. Not seeing any.
Thank you for coming. And now we have
Allan. Allan, welcome. You have five
minutes for your deputation. There's a
button on the right hand side. You can
turn the microphone on and I will let
you know when you have one minute
remaining.
Thank you to the mayor and council for
allowing me to have a moment to speak.
I just wanted to make some references.
The one is the map that is no longer up
on the screen. The garbage extends
beyond the parking lot within a meter
and a half of the sidewalk.
That's very concerning for me. How do
you buffer the odors? and it becomes a
little thing that you can hide behind at
night for predators or whatever because
it's now a disturbance in the line of
sight going down the street.
Uh
in the application it references three
lot lines are on the street. Now it
appears to be basically a square
property and they're counting the little
curve in the corner as a lot line to say
three are on the street. But two of the
lot lines do uh the long lot lines exist
next to residential homes. And the fact
that when you say you're trying to meet
all the codes, you have to have an
exemption for the floor ratio because
you want it a little higher. You have to
have a exemption on the frontage because
it's going to be a little lower. then
you want an exemption on uh
like it keeps going and I don't feel
that's meeting the code. You set these
codes and everybody else built by them.
Now those people might want to sell
their home. Is their value going to be
impacted by the fact you've allowed
others to come in with a lesser code,
build a little cheaper, and then they're
going to compete against you in your uh
dwelling when you want to sell it.
The next thing is, it's been mentioned
numerous times, at one point it's a
dwelling, one point it's a condo, one
point it's apartments. I'd really like
clarification as to what it is
specifically.
And the high traffic at Victoria and
Donley is amplified by the fact there's
a lot of student traffic both going to
Fanshaw and going to the school, the
local school. And that has become
uh a safety issue there. And I don't see
how adding another
65 cars in the mix at that close to the
intersection is a very positive thing as
well.
So, I'd really like some consideration
to try and meet the bar rather than just
say we're close to the bar, so let's
proceed.
And I thank you for your time.
Thank you very much for coming. Are
there any questions for Mr. McBride?
Seeing none. Okay. Oh, sorry, Council
Michelle and then Dothy.
» Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um
sir, thank you very much for for coming
uh and making your deputation. Um
when when you were asking for
clarification on what it is exactly that
these you described condos, apartments,
which is it um have have you not
received an answer to that question?
>> No, that's why I just asked it.
» No, that's why I just asked it.
>> Okay. So, I would like with your
» Okay. So, I would like with your
permission to ask staff if Madame Mayor
will allow me, can we get clarification
on exactly what these units are?
>> We're going to go into the staff report
» We're going to go into the staff report
right after uh we've received the
deputation. So, I will I'll I'll return
to you with that. Councelor Deathy,
>> thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you, Mr.
» thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you, Mr.
Ride, thank you for for being here and
for sharing your thoughts. Um, can I
just get a little bit more clarification
on the issue that you raised around the
gar the placement of the garbage
collection?
>> Yes.
» Yes.
>> I I'm sorry I didn't follow all the way.
» I I'm sorry I didn't follow all the way.
So
>> if you if the map could come back up,
» if you if the map could come back up,
it's on it's on Donley and it's at the
end of the parking lot which they wants
an allowance to be closer to the street
than it should be. And then the garbage
dumpsters stick out further so that they
look to be about 1 and a half meters
from the sidewalk and they're an
extension beyond the parking. And I
don't I think they should be contained
within
I think that there's numerous problems
from having something out there and how
is it going to be bordered with some
green with just a fence? Is it going to
be something somebody can hide behind?
Uh is it going to have odors? I find
numerous concerns about that.
>> Okay. Thank you.
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. I'm not seeing any other hands.
» Okay. I'm not seeing any other hands.
So, thank you Mr. McBride for joining
us. A mover and a second are pleased to
receive all three deputations. Item 7.1,
7.2, and 7.3 as information. Moved by
councelor Huffman, seconded by councelor
Van Andrishi. All in favor? That's
carried. We will move along to the staff
report and maybe we can also call on
Scott to supplement um questions and
answers that staff might not have if if
council's okay with that. A little bit
of a tag team approach. So we are on
agenda item 12.1.1 which is staff report
CDS25061.
» Thank you. Good afternoon madame mayor
and council members. Uh through the
chair I have chopped out a little bit of
my report now that we've brought it
forward to immediately follow the
deputation to try and avoid duplication.
Um this file was first seen at public
hearing committee meeting on October 8th
2025.
Uh the applicant has proposed a zoning
bylaw amendment to change use of the
land from neighborhood commercial to
urban residential type 5 uh with an
amended special provision 14.729
to facilitate the construction of a
four-story apartment complex and
associated parking. Um just to
understand the uh nature of the building
and to come to councelor Michelle's
question um it is I mean the only
difference between an apartment and a
condo is a matter of ownership. It's not
there is no real difference at this
stage and that is something that can be
determined later down the road. Um the
associated bylaw would change the use of
the land um with a special provision
14729
to amend the height limit of the
building to a maximum of four stories
and grant relief in terms of parking
distance vehicles can be parked. Um it
would no longer include any relief for
parking or for floor area ratio as was
previously seen at public hearing.
Uh given this, it is the proposed
opinion of staff that applications at
NPL 2025146
be approved as outlined in staff
recommendation report CDS25061.
Thank you. I'm here for any questions.
>> We'll open it up for questions, but just
» We'll open it up for questions, but just
for clarity, I heard you just say
the height limit meets, the parking
relief is no longer requested, and the
floor ratio is is met. So, as per Mr.
McBride's can you uh comments where it's
not meeting the bylaw. Can you just
please clarify for the public what the
special provision request is? That's the
only item that doesn't meet. Correct.
>> Through the mayor. That's correct. Um so
» Through the mayor. That's correct. Um so
the special provision is uh basically
for distance away from the building that
vehicles can park. Um that is in the
bylaw. It's required to be 3 m. Um and
certainly on the I believe north side of
the building um it's only going to be 2
m at least at this time in the
indicative site plan. Um but again
that's the sort of thing that will get
those details will be hammered out of
the time but that is the that's the only
change.
>> Thank you very much councelor Michelle.
» Thank you very much councelor Michelle.
Uh the comments on ownership and and so
on that can fluctuate and change. Is
that sufficient for you or do you wish
to
ask something else?
Yeah, thank you, Madame Mayor. Yeah, I
just I guess I wouldn't mind maybe just
a little explanation if staff could just
provide um how how does ownership
distinguish between a condo and an
apartment? Are are are we ask talking
about rentals or is there some other
criteria?
>> Go over to Miss Call um through the
» Go over to Miss Call um through the
mayor to counselor Michelle. So, a condo
can be is just um a type of ownership.
It can be any type of building. So we
have condo, town houses, apartments. The
actual physical structure is an
apartment building. I believe it's
planned to be rental
>> or is this not determined yet?
» or is this not determined yet?
>> I don't know.
» I don't know.
>> But physically it will be an apartment
» But physically it will be an apartment
building. Condo will just determine
whether each unit is owned separately or
if the whole building's owned by one
person.
» Uh thank you. Uh so through the mayor to
councelor Michelle. So yes, from a from
the ownership group standpoint, um
they're right now obviously in the
initial um land use approvals, um really
what's going to drive uh whether it's
condo or rental will really be market
conditions at the time of construction,
which um depending on how how long site
plan takes if there's no market.
So it could be 3 years from now that
right now maybe apartments make sense,
maybe in 3 years condo makes sense,
maybe it's the opposite. So, um,
following site plan approval is when
they would have to decide if they wanted
to do, uh, a condominium because then
another an additional application is
required to folk county um, for a condo
a condominium uh, application which then
allows units to be registered with the
land registry office. If it was just
apartments following site plan approval,
it would be under one ownership,
obviously the ownership group of the
apartment complex. Um, so market
conditions is the answer and that'll be
when they're done the site plan uh
approvals process when that decision
will will likely be made. Uh, hopefully
that answers the question.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
Uh, madame mayor, we do uh we did note
uh just in the bylaw. So, uh the only
parking requirement we did notice just
in the uh implementing bylaw. Um it does
say uh no parking shall be located
closer than 3 mters from any interior
lot line. Uh as shown on the site plan,
we're showing 2 meters um rather than
three. Three is the bylaw requirement.
So just there is a typo in the
implementing bylaw that does need to be
fixed. Um, we are showing as per our
request the the 2 m setback from the
interior lot line. And if council does
want information on the garbage, I'm
happy to answer.
>> Sure. While you're up here, go for
» Sure. While you're up here, go for
>> While I'm up here, I'll use I'll use the
» While I'm up here, I'll use I'll use the
opportunity. So, uh, the garbages
themselves, uh, Yep. There's no setback
from property lines. Um, they will be
the mole system. If you've ever seen
those, they're the the they're not the
big dumpsters that roll in and out.
They're the mole lock system that sits
deeper into the ground. Um they're those
round ones that have those dome shape um
that seal tightly. Um then they come in,
the garbage truck cranes them out um and
dumps them in. Um they are uh they were
designed um for that reduce smell,
reduce the eyesore of a closed in area
with um fences because they don't need
to be closed in generally by fencing. Um
so it's that mo system. I think they're
at the Tim Hortons uh by the bridge. if
anybody does want to take a look at what
the mole uh molec looks like. Um so
they're just they go vertically into the
ground a lot deeper um take a take up
less area and then obviously have a a
much uh firmer ceiling uh lid on them.
Um so that's to help to reduce those
concerns with smell and visual appeal
and and things like that. So
>> councelor Deathy, was that going to be
» councelor Deathy, was that going to be
your question? Okay, councelor Brenton.
>> Thank you Mayor Martin. question, Scott,
» Thank you Mayor Martin. question, Scott,
is uh is there some kind of storm water
storage on site that you're I assume
you're looking at?
>> Yes. So, uh through the mayor, um yes.
» Yes. So, uh through the mayor, um yes.
Uh so there will be an underground
there'll be underground chambers.
>> Um I'm not an engineer and I won't
» Um I'm not an engineer and I won't
pretend to be one. Okay.
>> Um but generally on these sites, if you
» Um but generally on these sites, if you
don't have a storm water management
pond, you have underground chambers,
storage chambers that the water gets
collected into and then released into
the uh municipal sewer and then taken
wherever it outlets to uh from there. So
the question always gets confusing for
me. It's if it's condominium, they look
after it, but if it's in this case, if
it's rentals, I assume the owner looks
after it. It's all on his property.
>> So uh through the mayor. So uh sorry,
» So uh through the mayor. So uh sorry,
counselor.
>> I don't know if Andrew is that
» I I will happily take the question.
>> Yeah, go ahead, Scott.
» Yeah, go ahead, Scott.
>> So from a if it's a condo, if it's a
» So from a if it's a condo, if it's a
condo, the condo corporation is
responsible for it. So, all of the
tenants collectively are responsible
through the condo corporation. If it's
rental, then it's the whoever the owner
of the apartment is is responsible for
the on-site uh system.
>> Okay. Thank you.
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Good with that, Mr. Grace. Thanks. Okay.
» Good with that, Mr. Grace. Thanks. Okay.
Any other questions for Scott while he's
up here? We can dismiss him again and go
back to the staff report. Thanks, Scott,
for that additional information. That's
very helpful.
>> Thank you, council.
» Thank you, council.
>> Any other questions for our staff on the
» Any other questions for our staff on the
staff report?
I think the only thing that hasn't been
addressed,
we spoke at the public hearing meeting
and had engineering comments on the
record about traffic volumes and safety.
The garbage has now been addressed. I
think it's just um Margaret's comments.
So, uh maybe I can pose this one to
staff. the 1.5
million homes from the government maybe
through to Miss Call. Do you feel
stressed to approve housing units
inappropriately to meet 1.5 million
homes?
>> Um to the mayor, no, I don't feel
» Um to the mayor, no, I don't feel
stressed about it. I think in this
circumstance, staff are satisfied
regardless of the provincial direction
that it's an appropriate spot for an
apartment building.
>> Okay. Thank you. And
» Okay. Thank you. And
um to maybe miss call again, have any
assessments been done specifically in
Norfolk to tell us what type of housing
types we should be driving towards or do
you have any uh information off the top
of your head? Or from a planning
perspective, do you prefer a certain
type of housing? Can you comment on that
for uh Miss Trucker's
» um to the mayor? So, the official plan
does direct us to have a variety of
housing types. Um, this is an and to use
land efficiently. Um, I don't know that
we have anything that says this is what
percent of apartments we need, that type
of thing. But, we don't get a ton of
apartment proposals. So, we also know
that there's a very low vacancy rate for
rentals in Norfol County. So, that's
another reason we would be supportive of
this. Again, it's very case by case on
what's appropriate in what location. But
um for this circumstance, I think it
kind of checks the box um in terms of
higher density in an appropriate
location, not too high density,
servicing's available. Um yeah, so we're
supportive.
>> Okay, thanks for that. Last time I
» Okay, thanks for that. Last time I
checked, it was 0.4% rental vacancy in
Norfol County, which is very, very low.
Um and then lastly,
hospitals provincial, schools
provincial, OP provincial. Not that
we're passing the buck, but um those
aren't factors or contributing parts of
the conversation on the municipal
planning level when we decide about
housing. It would be lovely to have more
resources for all of the above.
Certainly in our community, no doubt. Uh
but those are not reasons for council to
be able to deny um a housing unit. If we
said we we didn't approve the housing
unit because we felt we didn't have
enough OP resources that would not give
us a leg to stand on in the appeal
process. So I just wanted to comment on
those three items for you. Councelor Van
Passen.
>> Thanks Madam Mayor. Just one other
» Thanks Madam Mayor. Just one other
little thing. Um, is the agent correct
that that is a typo in the bylaw on the
uh 2 meter setback for the parking
spaces?
It is what's on the map right now
>> through the mayor to counselor Van
» through the mayor to counselor Van
Passin. Uh, yes, it was supposed to both
say there's two setback reliefs in there
and they were both supposed to say two.
So, I did confirm with Scott and I've
asked Lincoln to correct that for us.
>> Just make sure the clerk gets it
» Just make sure the clerk gets it
converted when we do the bylaws before
the end of the meeting.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you very much
» Okay. All right. Thank you very much
everyone. Uh so there is a staff
recommendation before council. Does
someone wish to move that or propose an
alternative?
Councelor Columbus.
>> So moved.
» So moved.
>> Thank you very much. Is there a
» Thank you very much. Is there a
seconder?
Councelor Van Passen. Any debate or
discussion on the topic? Councelor
Columbus, the floor is yours. Just
wanted to say at the October 8th public
hearing committee meeting, I did
question Scott about reducing the number
of floors from five to four and he had
indicated that it may not be a viable
project. So I'm really happy to see that
this is happening and it's relieved a
lot of the other criteria that had to be
met.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> Agreed. Thank you. Anyone on the screen
» Agreed. Thank you. Anyone on the screen
wish to debate?
Okay, I'm going to call the question.
All in favor?
That's carried unanimously. Thank you.
Next, uh we don't do not have any
presentations on our agenda, so we'll
move along to approval of the minutes.
First up is item 9.1, which is the
council meeting minutes of December
16th, 2025.
Moved by
Councelor Bruntton and seconded by
councelor Huffman. All in favor?
carried reports of committee of the
whole 10.1 is the council and committee
meeting minutes of January 13th and 10.2
Two is the budget committee meeting
minutes November 20th, 2025.
Mover and a seconder, please. Councelor
Michelle and councelor Barry. All in
favor?
Carried.
Advisory committee meeting minutes
before you. We have quite a few. Uh does
anyone wish to speak to any of them?
Okay. Okay. 11.1 through to 11.7.
All right. Is there a mover and a
seconder to receive all of the above as
information? Councelor Van Andrishi and
Barry move. All in favor?
Carried. Any opposed? Nope. We're good.
Staff reports and discussions again. So
nothing under community and development
services uh corporate services. will
move right along to staff report
CS260001
over to Mr. Fleming to give us our
update on the water and wastewater
collection policy and program update.
Uh good afternoon council. Um, so I'm
just here today to speak on our water
and wastewater uh collection policy
again at the committee meeting uh two
weeks ago on January 13th. Uh committee
deferred report CS26-001
uh looking for more information
particularly around our user fees that
were estimated for the purposes of our
rears collection notices. As to
supplement the discussion today, I we
have prepared an additional memo as
included as part of this agenda uh which
provides a bit more information on that.
Uh based on council or committee's
direction, uh staff undertook a more
wholesome review of an estimated uh fees
uh based on a bit more of a deep dive
into them. Uh table one of our
supplemental memo summarizes the fees
that were calculated to be a cost
recovery basis. Uh you'll note that in
our the original report, the fee for the
6-day reminder uh was set at uh or
estimate of $5. Uh revised it's at $4.28
and the other two for the 30 and 45day
have been revised down from $10 to
$6.73.
I just want to put out a reminder that
these fees are not intended to generate
money, but they are to ensure that those
that benefit from the services or
reminder notices are paying for those
services and the costs of those are not
passed on to other users within the rate
base. Uh table two within that memo
provides a bit of a summary in terms of
if those fees are not charged, what the
impacts would be for the average
residential rate user. Uh in aggregate
it would be about $4 annually.
There was also some discussion at the
committee meeting as well around the
paper bill sir charge of $2 per bill.
Staff are confident that number remains
uh consistent with what was prepared
originally. And just for context as
well, similar to what was are shown in
table two. Staff also pulled the similar
number for as presented in table three
on a basis of 25% of people would be
signed up for ebilling. the remaining
75% that receive paper bills, that cost
would be passed on to the other existing
rate users uh and result in $5.69
savings should council adopt a rate for
that for the average residential
property. Um we are again uh these are
still estimates these rates and they
won't be finalized until presented as
part of the 2027
uh user fee bylaw. Uh we're looking
forward to uh bringing some more
information back at that at a later date
uh once that becomes available and
looking forward to having the discussion
today to hopefully uh get this policy
approved if we can. Uh we are available
should committee have any questions or
council have any questions. We're more
than happy to to dive into it a bit more
if you there are
>> questions from council.
» questions from council.
Councelor Brenton.
>> Thank you Mayor Martin. I I'm um not
» Thank you Mayor Martin. I I'm um not
sure if this is the place to ask the
question, but I had a call last week
from an individual that had a water bill
problem uh with a tenant and I I tried
to explain to him where this is going,
but my question uh he indicated there's
an app app available to monitor water
use in a is that is that are you aware
of that or no?
Mr. Grace.
>> Yes. Uh certainly. So through the mayor,
» Yes. Uh certainly. So through the mayor,
yes, there are various apps depending on
the provider you have for your meter
technology or your billing uh provider.
Uh we are currently working with our
meter provider, Census, and that is
something that we will have live uh in
the near future. It is really intended,
as you said, to provide people access to
the real-time water usage, but is to
avoid having leaks on your property that
may go undetected. So we hope to roll
that out sometime uh hopefully by summer
this year. Um and we'll have some
communications and outreach that go
along with it so people are aware of how
to use it.
>> Okay. And is that part of the the um
» Okay. And is that part of the the um
where the landlord has to get permission
from the tenant the two of them have to
agree on that? I assume it's
confidential if it's the uh if it's the
tenant to use that app. Am I would that
make sense?
>> Uh so through the mayor I think that's
» Uh so through the mayor I think that's
something we'll have to look at in more
detail. I haven't thought of the
logistics around the the tenant landlord
relationship, but um I'm certainly
there's something we can work through
whether it's a sign off to allow access
or that. We'll we'll certainly explore
that as part of our roll out.
>> Well, that's that I I what I understand
» Well, that's that I I what I understand
is we're going to have that uh ability
of the landlord to deal with the tenant
and keep track of his own uh usage. If
it's his building, he's paying the bill
if it doesn't get paid. Correct. Yeah,
through through the chair. Uh yes, that
is correct. So under our current system
for water bills, uh we do have a signoff
process uh with our current provider
where landlords can gain access to
tenant accounts. Uh so that's an
existing process that I'm sure um could
be utilized for a similar kind of
purpose. Um I will say though under our
collection policy that we're proposing
today, um that's before you the all
water accounts while the primary owner
will be the property owner. Um so that
sign off process and releases won't be
necessary because it'll be um the
property owner will have that
information by virtue of being the
primary account holder.
>> Okay. I thank you
» Okay. I thank you
>> councelor Columbus.
» councelor Columbus.
>> Thank you madam mayor and uh I still
» Thank you madam mayor and uh I still
have a concern with respect to the
bimonthly billing. I just think that
going two months is going to be too
difficult for a lot of families, large
families, pensionable seniors.
And uh I don't know how everybody else
feels about it, but I just think it's I
know you can do uh e billilling and e
payments, but a lot of people in our
county are not familiar with that
process.
Just a quick reminder, councelor Huffman
raised it last time, but the uh system
does have the equal billing in it, so it
will be consistent and and predictable,
I suppose.
Any other questions for staff at this
point in time, councelor Barry.
>> Uh, excuse me. Thank you, mayor, and
» Uh, excuse me. Thank you, mayor, and
through you to Rob, I guess. Um, last
time we had this this come up, we had a
discussion about arars and and and
different uh different issues about that
and and I'm wondering um I just want to
follow up on that. I'm wondering if we
know uh or could find out how Norol
County is in terms of relative to
similar municipalities. Like do we have
more people in our rears, fewer people
in our rears? Are we about the same?
Like I just I'd just like to have a
better sense of um where we are on that
um for a couple reasons. one just to
make sure that our policies and things
are are correct like relative to uh
other communities and and you know the
the people that aren't paying or use
those as reasons to not pay but also um
you know just as it becomes politicized
I would like to know you know is is is
are the 600 accounts in a rears a lot or
a little is the percentage higher or
lower is there any way we can find that
out please
>> uh through the chair yes I We did try to
» uh through the chair yes I We did try to
take a look and pull some values on that
from the last discussion two weeks ago
at CIC. Um it's a bit it's a bit
challenging I suppose to to pull that
information just by the nature of how
water and wastewater works. Um many
municipalities
have adopted a tax rolling process for
counselor and inner rears. Uh so in
reality their arars are much lower as
presented on their financial statements
for example than they would be because
of that tax billing. It's a bit
different I guess what I'm saying than
from property taxes where property tax
accounts are the definitive point and
many municipalities report on where that
is at year end. Um, but water and
wastewater just with the how they're
collected upon with the tax rolling
process after 60 days or 90 days past
due, it's a bit of a a challenge I guess
to to get that information. Um, what I
can say though is we did take a look at
uh uh what other municipalities do in
terms of our overall kind of timeline to
tax rolling and what we've seen is that
it's fairly consistent across the board.
uh some of the powers have adopted other
other timelines for tax rolling but I I
don't think what we're proposing 60 days
is outside of the norm. Uh in aggregate
annually we tax roll about 900,000 in
water and wastewater rears so about
75,000 a month. um which
I would say as a percentage of rears if
you look at just that million it'd be
consistent with what we have uh
outstanding for our property taxes but
it's not a direct apples to apples
comparison just by the nature of how the
the aging of the the difference in
accounts go from period to period.
>> Okay. No, I understand all that and I
» Okay. No, I understand all that and I
and I appreciate the update. I just um
Okay, fair enough. And if it occurs, but
if it does occur to you or anyone else
in finance that there might be a way to
see how Norfolk compares in that regard,
I would really appreciate that update
because I don't want this to be that um
you know, obviously it's not good. I
understand it's not good to have any
inner rears, but I don't want this to be
framed as a particularly bad Norfolk
issue if we're consistent with other
municipalities or or even worse if it
gets misconstrued if we're actually
doing a little better. So that that's um
that's all I want to get to. So if
there's ever any metrics or you it comes
across a way that to report how we're
doing, I'd really appreciate that
update. Okay. Thank you,
>> Councelor Huffman.
» Thank you, Mayor Martin through you. I
was just wondering if Mr. Fleming could
just recap again on those fees. I know
that the paper bills are going to be $2
and if you could just recap on the fees
again. I just um I didn't quite get the
the one.
>> Yeah. Yep. through the through the uh
» Yeah. Yep. through the through the uh
mayor. Um based on table one, so the
information contained table one of the
supplemental memo, the 6day automated
reminder was originally estimated at $5.
It has been revised down to $4.28.
The 30-day reminder notice was
originally estimated at $10. It has been
a revised estimate of $6.73.
Uh the $6.73
revised estimate is also applicable for
the 45day uh transfer to tax rule
warning.
>> Okay. Thank you very much. I was just
» Okay. Thank you very much. I was just
wondering, Mayor Martin, when it comes
time, I'd like to make a motion
regarding the fees.
>> Sure. I don't uh believe I have I Oh,
» Sure. I don't uh believe I have I Oh,
I'll come back to you, Councelor Deathy.
>> Okay. All right. Thanks.
» Okay. All right. Thanks.
>> Thank you, Mayor Martino. Can I um Mr.
» Thank you, Mayor Martino. Can I um Mr.
Fleming, thank you for the work that you
did on this from the last time we saw
it. What goes into the 6day automated
reminder that cost $4.28
uh through the mayor. Um so we tried to
give a flavor of what kind of goes into
the the anal or the calculation for each
of the fees. Um
so with the six the six day automated
reminder notice, the first thing would
be the system that would generate the
phone calls. Um if that's the option we
decided to go with. Um that would be I
think we estimated at about 5,000 a year
uh which was previously noted at the
CIC. Uh with any reminder actions or
collection actions that we do um there
is a process that needs to get done in
advance of that. Um that would be
validating the information um that gets
exported reviewing the aged accounts to
make sure that we send notices or
contact the individuals that actually
require to be contacted. Um, and then
once those con those uh those go out the
door, uh whether um automated or if
they're email or by mail, um then we
also have the associated follow-up that
goes with that. Um, so typically with
our our reminder notice fees, any of the
follow-up work with somebody might call
in um and
uh say that they've paid, there's the
follow-up work and looking at people's
accounts um and all the uh the post kind
of work that goes into it. Um in the for
context in the report itself or the
supplemental memo, we had a look at
property tax reminder notices. Obviously
the volume's a bit different um but we
believe that the work effort would be
similar uh in comparison just at a much
smaller scale and all the followup and
balancing and uh it's all factored into
that that cost of $4
28.
Thank you for that. I I will confess
some of the comments around uh basically
reviewing to make sure we've got it
right gives me tiny bit of concern that
we're doing it after the fact.
Um on in your experience,
how often is that first reminder all it
takes?
>> Um that's that's a great question. Um so
» Um that's that's a great question. Um so
obviously we don't have a great kind of
foundation for determining that because
this is a new new service for us. Um I
would say if we looked at our tax
reminder notices as a great example u
because they would follow a similar kind
of timeline. um they are reasonably
effective um in in driving payments. Uh
we see that uh I said we send about
5,500
um for property taxes and that is much
of the work that my team does for the
following two weeks uh is follow up
associated with those reminder notices
and dealing with uh the residence
inquiries. Um and just by virtue of that
I I I we do end up clearing a a decent
amount of a rears just from the initial
notice itself.
So like 50% of them 25
» I think I would if I was to look at so
for example um we send reminder notices
for taxes in November and we had about
5500 we did it again in January and we
had reminder notices of about 3,000 uh
so we cut it in half roughly between
those two reminder notices.
Any other questions for staff at this
point? Councelor Bruntton.
>> Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um, I'm trying
» Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um, I'm trying
to get a handle on something here. Uh,
the you say on a given year 900,000 is
about the value of a rears for water.
Am I am I right on that
>> through the chair? That is the rear
» through the chair? That is the rear
amounts are transferred to property
taxes 900,000.
>> Okay. And that's that's progressive over
» Okay. And that's that's progressive over
a 12-month period, I take to get to
that, right? How quick does the 1 and
a4% kick in on the on a on a delinquent
water bill?
>> Uh through the mayor, the interest would
» Uh through the mayor, the interest would
start be charged on the first day of
default, similar to how taxes are
operating.
>> Okay. So, does that interest you make uh
» Okay. So, does that interest you make uh
1 and a4%
does it get credited back to the rate
budget or does it stay in the taxes tax
I guess the levy budget if I could use
that word?
>> What happens to it?
» What happens to it?
>> Yeah. through the mayor. Uh any interest
» Yeah. through the mayor. Uh any interest
that would be generated from water and
wastewater past due amounts u would be
factored into the rate budget until such
time that they're transferred to the
property tax levy or the property tax
account.
>> I realize but that's what I'm sooner or
» I realize but that's what I'm sooner or
later that somebody comes to pay that
tax bill which could include a portion
of the the water bill. Correct.
>> Uh through the mayor that that would be
» Uh through the mayor that that would be
correct. Yes.
>> Okay. So does that credit back then to
» Okay. So does that credit back then to
the rate like I guess it's very
difficult to keep track of but does that
inch inch and a quarter one and a4%
does it all get credited back to the to
the water bill uh through the mayor uh
no it would not uh similar to other
items that would get transferred to the
tax role of a property once it gets
transferred it becomes the
responsibility of individuals that are
funded by the tax base to collect that
outstanding amount uh similar to is now
u with water and wastewater rers once
they're added um it's tax collection
staff would be responsible for ensuring
those amounts are collected uh and
that's similar for any other item that
gets whether it's accounts receivable or
um
>> that's a I can if I can say it's a bit
» that's a I can if I can say it's a bit
of a bonus to the uh taxpayer
taxpayer not the rateayer
thank Thank you, Madam Mayor.
>> Councelor Huffman, you want to provide
» Councelor Huffman, you want to provide
some direction to staff?
>> Um, yes. Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um,
» Um, yes. Thank you, Mayor Martin. Um,
I'm just I I'm going back to the
original intent of bringing this in
house and it was from the mayor's
affordability roundt. So, the consensus
was being how can we make things more
affordable for people in Norfolk. So
obviously it's been proven to bring it
inhouse does provide a significant
savings but however I I know I've
mentioned this before. It costs a lot of
money to not have a lot of money and and
I don't want to
put more burden on those that are
already struggling. So, I would like to
propose a motion that the first um
contact made with um the rateayer would
be $2 and the next two notices would be
$5.
That is my motion.
>> Okay, that's on the floor. Is there a
» Okay, that's on the floor. Is there a
seconder for that?
» Okay.
>> Okay. See,
» Okay. See,
Council Michelle is seconding. Okay.
debate and discussion on that. Councelor
Barry.
>> Yeah, excuse me. Thanks, Councelor
» Yeah, excuse me. Thanks, Councelor
Huffman for doing that. I was thinking
of something similar, but not quite
that. Um I I will support this
in theory, but I you know, if I can make
a suggestion um just for maybe a
potential change if everybody likes it.
Maybe the first one's free, but we jack
those second two back up to 10. So this
the first one is, you know,
just a reminder, here's your freebie.
Next one is is is more substantial. That
way they they don't get hit right away,
but they they get that uh friendly free
reminder. So anyways, either way, I'll I
I'll probably support something like
this. I just don't know if I I I will go
with these amounts yet.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Is that uh that amendment suitable,
» Is that uh that amendment suitable,
Councelor Huffman,
>> or want to stick with your direction?
» or want to stick with your direction?
>> Well, I'm still thinking that that 10 is
» Well, I'm still thinking that that 10 is
high. Um,
I mean that that could be I I just think
it's high. I I want to stick with the
five for the following two. I that's
where I'm I'm sticking with that. Feel
like I'm on a game shop.
>> We'll stick with your motion.
» We'll stick with your motion.
>> Okay. Thank you.
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay,
» Okay,
>> Council Shelly debate
» Council Shelly debate
>> then. Council.
» then. Council.
>> Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, I just want to
» Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, I just want to
get maybe clarification from the mover.
Um,
are we Oh, I see it's on the screen now.
Okay,
so
>> we're sticking with the original motion.
» we're sticking with the original motion.
No changes.
>> Okay, so it was
» Okay, so it was
$2 and then fives. Okay, thank you.
>> Councelor Van Andrei debate. Go ahead.
» You are muted.
I'm so sorry. Um I have it on my phone
here. I can't get it on my laptop. So
obviously it is very small. So I'd like
clarification that the first is two and
the next is five and five. Is that what
I heard?
>> That is correct.
» That is correct.
>> Yes.
» Yes.
>> Okay. I will support that then. Thank
» Okay. I will support that then. Thank
you. Um I I I would have gone with the
first one as um a freebie as well as a
reminder and then I would have gone with
the five and five. But um this is this
is fine here. Two is fine. Councelor
Death.
>> Uh, thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,
» Uh, thank you, Madam Mayor. Through you,
Councelor Huffman, I appreciate the
intent of the motion. Um, and overall,
I'm not necessarily overly averse.
However, um, I my concern when we
discussed it last was that I think we're
nickeling diamond nickel and dimming
people. Uh, and I think the first
contact at 6 days, uh, even if it is $2
is silly. Um, on on this topic, I can
see that it would be different for
property tax, but on water and
wastewater, not so much. So, I'm not
going to support it because I think I'm
hearing around the table that there's
maybe some uh inclination for a change
on that part.
>> Councelor Van Passen.
» Councelor Van Passen.
>> Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, when I
» Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, when I
looked at even the memo, supplementary
memo, it's called an automated reminder.
Um, that's cost of doing business to
charge $2 for that. It's going to cost
more than the $2 to add that to the bill
after they charge it. So, do you charge
them another $2 for adding it to the
bill? So, uh I would just completely
forget about it. That's a cost of doing
business. That first one, that's a
gimme. Um there's no need for it at all.
Now, the other two, um
it's a little bit more of a a proddding
them to pay the bill. But I got to ask
staff again, under the current system,
if that $10 fee or $5 fee or $750 fee is
collected, where does that money end up?
Does it end up in the pocket of the rate
budget or does it end up in the pocket
of the levy budget
>> through the mayor? So any of the minor
» through the mayor? So any of the minor
notice fees up until the point of being
transferred to taxes would be uh
allocated to the rate budget.
>> Okay. So, we're we're going to collect a
» Okay. So, we're we're going to collect a
fee to remind you you're late. That
money stays within the pockets of the
rate budget. So, it's only the users
that either get the benefit or pay the
bill. So, I have no problem reminding
them to send us money. Um, I guess I
don't have to worry about too many in my
word worrying about that. But, um, and
since this motion's on there, there was
a question also last week about the $2
for a paper bill. Can maybe we discuss
all of those potential fees at once and
then uh give staff a clear
recommendation on how we'd like to see
the policy drafted.
>> Um
» Um
so your question is is the $2 rate still
applicable if it's a paper mailout bill
as opposed to the ebilling?
>> Yeah, it's a a I don't know if you call
» Yeah, it's a a I don't know if you call
it a penalty for getting the paper bill
cuz like uh already it needs a stamp.
That's half of the money right there.
But it's more of an incentive to get
them on eBuilding is uh so they don't
have to pay that extra fee. So I think
that was the logic in the proposed
policy. Right. So
>> staff comment
» staff comment
>> uh through the mayor if I if I
» uh through the mayor if I if I
understand the the question correctly.
It was uh that was the the intent uh to
ensure that uh it's more of an incentive
to get on to ebilling than it is a
penalty for not being on ebilling. um if
no one's on eBay, everyone incurs that
cost and then there's no user fee,
right? Uh because everyone benefits
equally. Um but having the option of
having ebilling available um is more of
having the user fee more targets um the
cost to those who benefit from having
that paper bill if that's what they
choose to have over emailing.
>> Good. Councelor Huffman,
» excuse me. Thank you, Mayor Martin. I am
more than willing to resend the $2 for
the initial notice. Um I just thought
that that wouldn't fly if I put it at
zero. Um I agree with uh councelor Van
Passen and councelor Duffy. I don't want
to be nickel and dimming and I think
there is a cost to doing business and uh
for being 6 days over to have to pay $2.
I I see that as as a lot. So, I would be
happy to um amend the motion to be um
the first contact made with the rateayer
be zero and the next two notices be $5
each. I'm more than happy to amend that.
>> And before I go to your second,
» And before I go to your second,
counselor Huffman, one of my suggestions
at council and committee was that staff
implement that for the first six months
to get people familiar with the new
billing process. is your amendment that
that be included as a um six month like
educational or or permanently?
>> No, I I was thinking actually earlier
» No, I I was thinking actually earlier
today I was thinking about it being a
little bit longer than 6 months. I
wanted it to go maybe a year, but I'm
open to suggestions. I just want to do
the best that we can by the rateayer and
to make this as as seamless as possible
and and um as as productive as possible.
So um I'm open to suggestions. 6 months
is fine. I was kind of thinking a year,
but I'll go 6 months.
>> Okay. So the intent would be to to wave
» Okay. So the intent would be to to wave
the first bill. any um fees associated
with that as an educational
launching the new ebilling bi-weekly and
so on and so forth. So the first
question before I go to the seconder is
is council in support of that as a
six-month or longer process.
Feedback on that from council please.
» Councelor Bruntton then Duffy. Am I
missing something here? If it's
>> Van Andrei.
» Van Andrei.
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. I might I'm
» Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. I might I'm
a little confused here. If it in six
months, if it hasn't been paid, doesn't
it will it not end up on the uh tax bill
by then?
Am I reading that right or am I wrong?
>> I don't know how long it takes to move
» I don't know how long it takes to move
over to the tax bill, but that's not the
question. They would then get their
second and third bill at the $10 rates.
So, we would still be billing them.
Still trying to correct. The question
now that we're considering is should we
be offering this 0
uh charge on the first notification as
an educational period for 6 months, 8
months, one year at which point in time
that would lapse and there would be a
fee associated with it. Does 6 months
too short? I I understand that, Mayor
Martin, but I I I guess I'm going right
back to the if people can't afford to
pay, eventually it's going to be at uh 1
and a4% on the tax bill. It it's
irrelevant. Two or10 or $5.
>> Yep. If they can't afford to pay, they
» Yep. If they can't afford to pay, they
they will receive additional bills, but
this motion is still applicable. So, I'm
going to go to councelor Duffy, then Van
Andrei for feedback specifically on the
first bill.
>> Okay. Thank you. That was my
» Okay. Thank you. That was my
clarification. So just whether it should
be six months for the $0 for freebie,
the first bill freebie. That's your
question.
>> Six months, one year. Councelor Huffman
» Six months, one year. Councelor Huffman
seeking input.
>> Yeah, I uh my take would be we just we
» Yeah, I uh my take would be we just we
make it permanent. I think you may get
some reaffenders. Um but I'm not sure I
necessarily want to have the marker
moved throughout the course.
>> Okay. But I need feedback on 6 months or
» Okay. But I need feedback on 6 months or
a year or not
>> permanent.
» permanent.
>> Okay, that's not the question. Councelor
» Okay, that's not the question. Councelor
Vandenryishi feedback on six months or a
year because then I'll go and
>> I would prefer
» I would prefer
I would prefer the year because it is an
education process. Um that way
everybody's comfortable with it after an
entire year rather than six months and
uh yeah but there'll be more to this
than you think. So thank you.
>> It's okay you're going for one year.
» It's okay you're going for one year.
Councelor Barry feedback.
>> Uh excuse me. I'd like I would I would
» Uh excuse me. I'd like I would I would
go with the year also. However, I know
you're not asking this, but I want to
throw it out, but it should be once. I
mean, it shouldn't be that you're in
every year several times over the course
of that year and and you uh keep getting
that no like one time you get it or not,
but that's my preference.
>> Okay, understood. So, Councelor Huffman,
» Okay, understood. So, Councelor Huffman,
now that you've heard from your
colleagues, do you have uh preference on
what you'd like your motion to be? And
then I'll go to Councelor Michelle and
see if he agrees with the amendment.
>> Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. through
» Uh, thank you, Mayor Martin. through
you. Um I would like to go I would like
to stick with the year um and and the
other numbers are um that the first
contact made with the rate pair be zero
and the next two notices be $5 each and
the amended part would be that the first
bill notification be waved for the first
year and that the next two notices be $5
each.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Just make I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. And
» Just make I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. And
then to councelor Barry's uh point, just
for clarity on your motion, if I'm a
repeat offender, do I get my first bill
waved multiple times or only once in
that year process?
>> I guess I would have to go back to staff
» I guess I would have to go back to staff
because it would depend on how much work
that would take and how much tracking. I
don't want to um we have to look at
we're trying to save some money here.
Um, I don't want to be taking up
valuable staff time with that. So, I
guess we would need some input from
staff.
>> You know what? Our treasurer has her
» You know what? Our treasurer has her
hand up. Perfect timing.
>> Uh, thank you. And through you, Mayor
» Uh, thank you. And through you, Mayor
Martin. Yeah, I Well, I appreciate the
intent of the motion. I think that
tracking that would be very very
challenging and administratively
burdensome for us as a staff group.
>> So, a one-time fee is is manageable.
» So, a one-time fee is is manageable.
However, a multiple first fee waiver is
not
or all of the above is not manageable.
the $5 two and three times
>> uh through the mayor. Um
» uh through the mayor. Um
what our treasurer was referring to was
the if it's a one time only uh that is
the administratively burdensome
component. If it's a blanket wave for 6
months to a year that would be easy to
accommodate.
>> Okay. So the motion can stand just so
» Okay. So the motion can stand just so
that we're clear. After the it sounds
like one year, we would go back to a fee
system which can be addressed in a user
fee bylaw. Um, and we'll let staff do
what is least administratively
burdensome, but also wave that fee if
this motion passes. So, councelor
Michelle, are you in support of the
amendment from the mover?
>> Yes, I am, Madame Mayor.
» Yes, I am, Madame Mayor.
>> Okay, Mr. Clerk.
» Okay, Mr. Clerk.
>> Yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, I'm
» Yes. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, I'm
not clear on what the 12 month
thing is that we're achieving. So, are
we going to review the late fees at 12
months or what is the 12-month window?
>> The 12-month window would be the
» The 12-month window would be the
educational period is over for the
community who now had to adjust to
ebilling and bimonthly billing. if they
miss a payment on their bill, it is um
now going to be associated the first
payment they miss will be associated
additionally with a fee and that fee
will come to council on the user fee
bylaw where I think there's still um a
lot of uh confusion here is that staff
aren't able to monitor how many times
they've missed the first bill and so if
I'm a rateayer I can just continually
miss my bill for a year. However, that's
a loophole in the system and that's the
motion on the floor.
Does that help you?
>> No, but I'm sure the treasurer can help
» No, but I'm sure the treasurer can help
me.
>> Uh, go ahead, CEO. Then we'll go to uh
» Uh, go ahead, CEO. Then we'll go to uh
>> So, um, just for clarity, so that I I've
» So, um, just for clarity, so that I I've
got it straight in my mind. What we're
suggesting is that once we move to an
in-house billing system, the first year
of transition, we will allow the 6day
reminder notice to go out at no charge
to the rateayer who is late on their
payment for the first year only, zero
charge. The 30-day reminder and 40-day
reminder notices will come with a $5
fee. After the first year and we finish
that one-year transitionary period,
staff will return as part of the annual
budget process for user fees and suggest
uh what those fees should be and that
will be subject to council's approval at
that appropriate time.
>> That is correct. However, the loophole
» That is correct. However, the loophole
for staff because it is administratively
burdensome for them to determine how
many times I've been sent the first fee.
I might have been sent it once and then
paid it and had the fee waved and then I
paid my second bimonthly bill and I'm on
schedule and then the next bimonthly
bill comes and I didn't pay it. Staff
will then need to send me another notice
at $0.
So there will be there could be multiple
0 fees charged to the same individual
over a 12-month period. That is the gray
area in this motion that I don't know
how staff will deal with that. But
>> so unless the treasurer says otherwise
» so unless the treasurer says otherwise
or rob I think it's a blanket.
Regardless of how many times an
individual rateayer might be late in
that first one-year transitionary
period, they will always have no fee
associated with that first reminder
notice
period. Full stop for that first
12-month period.
>> Correct. That is the way staff staff
» Correct. That is the way staff staff
don't have the resources to do
otherwise. Councelor uh sorry, Miss
Okay, Councelor Van Passen, go ahead.
>> Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, again, I'm
» Yes. Thanks, Madam Mayor. Um, again, I'm
trying to understand how this system is
going to work. So, we're going to switch
February 1st of 2027. Is that the date?
And we're going to mail them a some
people a bill that's going to cost $2
extra.
Is that what we've decided? And the ones
who get electronic don't have to pay
that fee. Okay. So, then it's due on the
first of the month or the 15th of the
month. You're going to have those
options. And if your sixth date is late,
it's going to send you an automated
notice to remind you that you're late.
And we're not going to charge anything
for that period all the time. That's
just the cost of doing business. That's
what it is. When 30 days comes up, then
we're going to send you a letter or an
email that says, "By the way, you're 30
days late."
And that's going to cost $5 to send that
letter. But for the first year, part of
the wording of that letter is we're
waving the $5 fee you should be charged.
We we just tell them that you should be
charged $5 and but we're waving that for
the first year.
>> No, the $5 fees are still applicable for
» No, the $5 fees are still applicable for
the next two two motions. Correct,
Councelor Huffman. Correct. So, no, the
$5 fee on 30 days and 45 days
>> payment is required
» payment is required
>> and but at 60 days
» and but at 60 days
it flips and it gets added to the tax
bill.
>> Confirmation. Yes. From the treasur.
» Confirmation. Yes. From the treasur.
Yep.
>> And that cost you $50. That's the
» And that cost you $50. That's the
standard fee to already existing of
adding things to your tax bill. And we
are not discussing that. That's staying
here. So,
>> so the only motion is
» so the only motion is
whether we charge staff had proposed $10
and the motion on the floor is $5 for
the 30-day and the 45day fee or letter
reminder fee. Correct. Correct.
>> You're mostly correct.
» You're mostly correct.
>> Mostly,
» Mostly,
>> councelor Deathy.
» councelor Deathy.
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, sorry for
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. So, sorry for
clarification then. I think I'm asking
staff. I apologize. We're maybe not at
that stage, but
presumably then if the fee was $5 and $5
or $10 and $10, by the time we add it to
the tax roll, there's a $50 fee. So
potentially it's 60 or 70. Is that
right?
Uh through the mayor, if it remains in a
rears, yes. So the total fees would be
the five plus 5 plus 50, so $60.
Okay.
>> Okay. I'm going to call the question
» Okay. I'm going to call the question
um here. Everybody's chimed in on some
debate. My two cents, I'm not going to
support this for many reasons. First,
hearing that staff can't possibly um
manage the administrative burden of
determining how many times an individual
has been late. Uh that is a loophole in
the system. Secondly, we put the rate
budget up 10% this year, which was over
$200 per household.
um and we have the most amount of our
accumulated debt is associated with the
the rate budget. So in the short term,
this is Norfolk County's biggest hurdle
and now we're having a discussion about
subsidizing one of our biggest hurdles.
Secondly,
everyone else who pays on time is now
subsidizing those who don't until it
trickles over to the property tax levy,
which then is our second largest hurdle.
So, administratively, it creates a
loophole for folks to not pay and pass
that burden on to other rateayers. And
this is Norfolk Countyy's
single-handedly
biggest problem rate water, wastewater,
and the debt associated with it. So, I
will not be supporting the motion. I'm
going to call the question. Uh, Mr.
Clerk, are we voting on the amendment if
both the mover and seconder have
approved it or are we voting on them?
>> Uh, through you, Mayor Martin, we don't
» Uh, through you, Mayor Martin, we don't
have an amendment. You kind of drafted a
resolution as you went along.
>> Perfect. Excellent. So, everyone
» Perfect. Excellent. So, everyone
understands what the motion is.
All in fa favor
and oppose.
» Uh one, two, three, four, five. Okay,
the motion's defeated.
Thank you. Four, five. Um,
we do have staff recommendation in front
of us
which is to receive the policy and the
program update as information
that we include the attachment
uh one to be approved. That is the that
is the reduced fees that staff put
together. Instead of $5, it's for
>> 28
» 28
>> 28 and so on and so forth. that would
» 28 and so on and so forth. that would
become effective February 1st, 2027 and
further that policy FS49 be rescended
effective January 31st, 2027. Miss Van
Djk. Thank you, Mayor Martin. Through
you to council, um uh thank you for
allowing me to speak. I I just would
like to offer a point of clarification
by if council chooses to approve the
policy as it is written and as has been
presented to council, council is not
approving any fees. The wording in the
policy is that fees are set as per the
user fee bylaw. So, council could and it
would be staff's request and
recommendation that council approve the
policy to allow staff to move forward
with the next phase of the planning and
the implementation of the project to
bring the water and wastewater billing
inhouse. The supplementary information
memo that Mr. Fleming provided with the
cost recovery rates for fees would be
the potential fees that would come back
as part of the user fee bylaw for 2027
that would still be subject to council
debate and approval or not at that time.
So the wording in the policy around fees
is specifically that fees are per the
user fee bylaw. If it is council's
future decision, for example, not to
charge any user fees, there would be no
user fees in the bylaw for staff to
charge. So, um, we do we appreciate the
debate that has gone on. We appreciate
council's, uh, views on the the matters
of the fees. Those are certainly very
important. We would uh respectfully
suggest and and recommend that council
could pass the policy without knowing
what the fees would be if any just yet
because those will come back.
Or additionally to make council feel
better, which I think is the crux of the
debate,
you can set it at the cost recovery rate
so that you know it's not going to be
higher
until the next term of council comes in
and makes an adjustment at the user fee
budget. I think we're not debating about
the policy here. We're debating about
the cost to the to the end user. So if
it makes you feel better, select the
lower fee that staff have put forward as
the cost recovery bare minimum. And then
you know until the next term of council
sets the user fees that you've selected
the lowest possible rate uh for the rate
payers of Norfolk County.
So if that's the case, I would look for
a mover and a seconder for the
recommendation on the screen and would
encourage you to insert
um the applicable fees for the year of
2027 as noted in table two.
Is that the table?
» Rob, go ahead and then I'll go to
councelor Gthy. It's uh just for
clarification uh madame mayor, it's
table one uh that outlines the fees.
>> Okay,
» Okay,
councelor Deathy, go ahead.
>> Thanks, Madam Mayor. Uh and I appreciate
» Thanks, Madam Mayor. Uh and I appreciate
the insight that you shared uh as well.
I certainly take that under adisement,
but I would put forward the motion as
recommended to my staff. However, I
would establish the user fees for um
consideration in the user fee bylaw to
be $0 for the 6day automated telephone
reminder and 750 for each of the
supplementary uh reminders.
» Uh I would just go to the clerk because
I think that that still creates that
administrative loophole that we've just
maybe debated
>> um through you, Mayor Martin. It doesn't
» um through you, Mayor Martin. It doesn't
remedy that, but it's a valid motion to
be put on the floor if there's a
seconder.
>> Okay. So, just for clarity then,
» Okay. So, just for clarity then,
councelor Deathy, you would uh move the
recommendation and you would suggest
the first late fee notification.
Is the mail out at $2 okay and the
ebilling is zero
» for the first or do you want zero for
both?
>> Sorry. Uh the mail. No, if you're
» Sorry. Uh the mail. No, if you're
receiving a paper bill, the $2 fee I
have no problem with.
>> Okay. Yeah.
» Okay. Yeah.
>> So, first bill e billilling uh would be
» So, first bill e billilling uh would be
$0 on your late and then what's the
supplemental? What's the follow-up fee
afterwards?
>> 750
» 750
>> and then 750 and 750.
» and then 750 and 750.
>> Correct.
» Correct.
>> Okay. Understood. Is there a seconder
» Okay. Understood. Is there a seconder
for that motion?
Councelor Columbus.
And discussion and debate.
Councelor Van Passen.
Thanks, Mor.
I think we're also forgetting that on
the first day that it's overdue, they
charge one and a quarter% interest on
that as well. So, um there's going to be
paperwork
sent out. So, I can support this concept
here. Um the first one is a reminder.
Um that's your freebie. After that, we
charge you money. staff calculated that
at close to the 750 sounds like a better
number, but again I think that's just a
recommendation. Council of the day in
2027 will approve the official fee
schedule. Is that correct? Yeah. So this
is our recommendation to a future
council to decide.
>> Confirming that with Treasury or are you
» Confirming that with Treasury or are you
going to produce a user fee bylaw with
the direction received today?
» Uh through you madame mayor. the the
fees that were directed um by council
today would be included in the user fee
bylaw.
>> So it's not just a suggestion of the
» So it's not just a suggestion of the
council of the day. It is setting the
fee
» doesn't kick in till 2027 staff are
saying. So, okay. Um,
and then councelor Deathy for my
confirmation as well, that is that first
first fee is an indefinite $0. That's
not a after a year or whatever it stops.
It is $0 on the first. Okay. Um,
everyone understand the motion before
you? We would be receiving the report
uh including the uh additional
amendments.
we would be rescending our prior policy.
So staff would be able to continue on
with the process and that includes $0 on
the first late fee indefinitely followed
by $750 on the next two
staff. Also, I hope you have direction
that if there's a mail out that's going
out as per councelor Vanadri's comments
last time around, that is a $2 fee.
Okay.
Um can we get a division of the question
just on the costs please and vote on the
first part which is receiving the
report.
So martin so I think um the second part
on the fees and I'll look to treasury to
correct me. It would be a direction to
staff to prepare those numbers for the
fee bylaw amendment. Is that correct? uh
through the mayor. Yes, that's correct.
We'd take that direction to bring back
the 2027 user fee bylaw including the
fees as directed today.
>> Yeah.
» Yeah.
>> Thank you.
» Thank you.
>> So that's how it would be presented in
» So that's how it would be presented in
the user fees, but that's fine. Okay. So
with the division of question, the first
three items are before us. Councelor
Deathy moved. I believe councelor
Columbus seconded. Yep. Okay. Is there
any further comment or debate on that?
Seeing none, I'll call the question. All
in favor?
That's carried. Thank you. And then now
we are uh moving and seconding by Dyian
Columbus the fees the paper bill $0 on
the first late fee indefinitely 750 for
the next two. Is there any debate on
that? Council ban and floor is yours.
>> Uh thank you madam chair. That is
» Uh thank you madam chair. That is
precisely what I mentioned last time.
Those people that don't have a computer,
don't have access to all that are the
ones burdening the extra cost. And I
don't think that's fair. I think it
should be zero across the board rather
than than um just to those who are
getting an internet um form that's
telling them that they are late a late
fee, a late notice. So um I'm not going
to support this in the way it is. I
would like to see that it's at least
fair and equitable across the board
because like I say, if you can't afford
a computer, you're having you're
probably hardressed to also pay water
bill.
>> Okay. Thanks for your comments. Any
» Okay. Thanks for your comments. Any
other debate?
>> Um my two cents, I will not be
» Um my two cents, I will not be
supporting this section of the motion. I
again I just don't agree with the $0.
Um, I am okay with zero dollars as an
educational trial period, but knowing
and hearing from staff that there's no
way to monitor how many times an
individual will get that first bill
paid. Essentially, they can create a
system where they're paying a monthly um
bill and having no
uh charge for the work that staff has to
do to remind them that they are in a
rears on that bill. So, that seems messy
and unfair to me. again, uh, $14.83
a month. The rate bill went up 10%
overall and, uh, 83.7 million in debt
associated with the rate on our last,
uh, budget. So, I will not be supporting
the subsidization of uh, those who pay
the fee late, especially when equal
billing is a large part of this new
system. I will call the question. All in
favor?
and opposed.
The motion's defeated.
So,
we have passed, as Miss Van Djk
suggested,
the ability to receive the report as
information to rescend the old policy
and to give staff the direction to
continue on the next steps. There's no
consensus on the fee. So, is it okay to
leave this for the user fee bylaw come
budget next year?
staff are nodding their head and the
debate can continue. Okay, thanks very
much councel
and to the clerk in my notes here I have
councelor Huffman sorry go ahead
uh thank you mayor Martin through you I
just want to make sure what's not lost
in translation is that we do a heavy
communications on the importance of the
monthly ebilling um the um I can't even
think it what is it I can't think of the
thank you the equal billing
and just to make users aware that they
still have the opportunity to do the
monthly billing to keep on top of their
of their expenses. So, I'd really like
to see that not lost in translation.
Thank you.
>> Um, Miss Van Dyke looking at you, she's
» Um, Miss Van Dyke looking at you, she's
nodding her head, so I think that's more
than reasonable. Okay. Thank you.
Um, we have the information memo.
Sorry. Um, this is my question to you,
Mr. CL.
>> Yeah, we don't deal with that. You just
» Yeah, we don't deal with that. You just
deferred it to feed.
>> Great. Deferred to feed budget. So next
» Great. Deferred to feed budget. So next
we're on 12.2.2 on your agenda which is
staff report CS26009.
This is Holdman Norfolk Housing Corp
affordable housing development jiar
street in Delhigh. Miss Van Djk.
>> Thank you madam mayor. Threw you to
» Thank you madam mayor. Threw you to
council. Um, this report is here today
to get uh council approval as
shareholder of the Haldderman Northolk
Housing Corporation for the uh financing
for the development located at 686
Gibralar Street in Delhigh. This is uh
going to be a 25 unit three-story mixed
income affordable housing development
comprising a mix of 15 affordable and 10
rent geared to income units. This is a
very exciting development and um with
planning well underway um as per the
shareholder agreement for the housing
corporation uh any um anytime the
housing corporation needs to acquire
debt or any time that there needs to be
a lean registered on the property, it
requires unanimous approval of the
shareholders. Unanimous meaning both
counties. A similar report um went to
Haldderman Council uh last week and so
is here for Norfolk approval today. So
as uh the resolutions state um we need
council approval for the housing
corporation to enter into a financing
agreement with Canada Mortgage and
Housing Corporation um for federal
funding. Um, we need uh approval for any
leans for the provincial and federal
funding to be registered on the title of
the property. And we also uh need
authorization for the mayor and clerk to
sign and execute a municipal
contribution agreement for the county's
financial contributions. So, by way of
previous report, council had um approved
up to $1 million of a contribution um as
a result of the uh the way that the
project has unfolded um efficiencies in
the project as well as um the the way
the funding has unfolded that uh actual
municipal contribution is going to be
$23,235.
So significantly less than the maximum
that council had approved, which is
great news. Part of executing the
municipal contribution agreement will
also be the registration of that
agreement on the title of the property.
So with that, uh, madame mayor, I'd be
happy to answer any questions. Thank you
very much. Questions from council.
Not seeing any. So the staff
recommendation is before you on the
screen, and I won't read it to you
because it's quite lengthy. But good
news on the reduction in the municipal
contribution. Is there a mover and a
seconder for that? Councelor Columbus
moves. Seconded by councelor Bruntton.
Councelor Columbus.
>> Yeah, this is great news for a great
» Yeah, this is great news for a great
project for the community of Delhigh and
I can say that there are a lot of people
looking forward to this. It kind of
revitalizes the Gibralar Street area and
uh look forward to having a shovel in
the ground come spring.
>> Excellent. I will call the question. All
» Excellent. I will call the question. All
in favor?
Carried unanimously. Wonderful. Thanks,
Miss Van Djk.
Emergency services, public works, and
office of the CAO. We have no reports,
so we'll move along to our bylaws. Does
any member of council wish to speak to
any of the bylaws before us with the
exception of the very last
bylaw which is 1310 bylaw 20267 being a
bylaw to appoint municipal law
enforcement officers that has been uh
pulled and will be revisited in
February. So all the other bylaws are up
for discussion. Councelor Van
Andadrishi.
» Uh thank you madam chair. I have my
concerns on the bylaw 20 uh 2024-91
which appears to be the first bylaw. I
have a couple of questions. Um this uh
drain that has come up and has passed uh
through two sittings already. Um the
actual uh proponent has has questions
about it again and is still working um
has some dispute over it and has some
some concerns. If this bylaw passes
through today um and since they're like
I say um kind of disputing it or
concerns have concerns with it, will it
have an effect if there were changes to
it? Can we go back and the bylaw is
revisited or changed or does it should
it not be passed the bylaw if there are
still concerns with this particular
drain? I think that question to staff
» through the chair I'm just reading it
very quickly. Uh so yes that uh that
file is I'll say up for debate although
it has been turned down on three
occasions by the drainage tribunal. So I
don't think there's going to be any
further discussions on the file. Um but
in looking at it quickly
um I would say that if by adopting this
bylaw then that would be end the end of
the discussion and all assessments would
be would be issued.
Um a further question to that is um
we're looking at it in the sense this is
he's the only individual that is uh
deemed to be uh that it is is for his
benefit or their benefit that particular
property when yet there are properties
around it. I myself don't agree with the
way it was found um by the engineer. Um,
so what if in the future there was one
of these massive rain whatevers and it
comes to find out that this drain um if
they were to hook on if other people
were to hook on was benefit to them as
well. Does it go back because it's
costing this individual $44,000 I take
it here to do the engineering and the
work. Um is there something that goes
back where he could be reimbursed by
others if that were the case?
Uh so through the chair I mean following
the proper municipal drainage process.
If others were to connect to the system
it would be benefit they would be
assessed accordingly. Um however I don't
think there's any urgency for us to
finalize this bylaw today. So I and we
do not have drainage staff on the line
following along. So um we can certainly
defer this to the following meeting if
that is council's desire and I can have
the appropriate staff here to respond to
it.
>> I would appreciate that. Therefore,
» I would appreciate that. Therefore,
Madam Chair, I'd like to make the motion
to defer this particular bylaw.
>> Um, okay, understood. Are would you give
» Um, okay, understood. Are would you give
me the grace of passing the other bylaws
so I can uh find out? I guess it's not
inappropriate to say the name of the
individual, is it?
Who's assessed?
>> That's right. Well, it's under the name
» That's right. Well, it's under the name
of the Mcool petition drain. It's that
that's the that's the last name of the
individual being assessed.
>> That's right.
» That's right.
>> Okay, understood. Sorry, I was thinking
» Okay, understood. Sorry, I was thinking
it would be a different drain then. So,
yep, that's fine. There's a motion on
the floor to defer this to the next
council meeting. Is there a seconder for
that? Councelor Brenton and I will call
the question. All in favor?
That's carried. Does anyone else wish to
speak to any bylaws?
Okay, we're going to skip that one.
Um,
moving on then. I'm looking for a mover
and a seconder. I suppose I have to do
these separately. So, uh, mover and
seconder that bylaw 202575 being a bylaw
to provide for variation in assessment
of the drainage works the corporation of
Norfolk County for the MCL municipal
drain re be read a third and final time.
Moved by councelor Deathy, seconded by
councelor Michelle. All in favor
carried. Mover and a seconder, please
that the bylaw 202576 being a bylaw to
provide drainage works in the
corporation of Norfolk County for the
Mills South Norwich municipal drain be
read a third and final time. Moved by
councelor Columbus, seconded by
councelor Van Passin. All in favor
carried. Move in and a seconder please.
Bylaw 202577 being a bylaw to provide
for partial abandonment and variation in
assessment of drainage works in the
corporation of Norfolk County for the
McCoy Municipal Drain 2024 be read a
third and final time.
Councelor Deathy
Councelor Barry all in favor
carried. Wonderful. And then a mover and
a second are pleased to approve the
following bylaws. 20
2601
to 202603 consecutively
uh and 202605
and 20260
be read a first, second, and third time
and finally passed in open council.
Moved by
councelor Michelle Lee, seconded by
councelor Van Andreishi. All in favor
carried. So we have pulled two of those
bylaws for February discussion.
Motions 14.1 on the agenda. We're
revisiting the alternative for Grand
Eerie Public Health.
» Council Michelle.
>> Yes, Madame Mayor. Um, I believe you
» Yes, Madame Mayor. Um, I believe you
mean to say alternate,
not alternative.
>> Sure.
» Sure.
>> Okay. Um,
» Okay. Um,
yes. I just want to get that clear.
>> If you turn your microphone off right
» If you turn your microphone off right
now and that's your only suggestion,
you're in trouble.
>> And also, Madame Mayor, I should follow
» And also, Madame Mayor, I should follow
up. Um if um we uh if council is willing
uh I I would um volunteer to to become
that alternate for that temporary
period.
>> I believe councelor Vanpassen has a
» I believe councelor Vanpassen has a
motion.
>> Thank you madam mayor. I would move a
» Thank you madam mayor. I would move a
motion that councelor Michelle be
appointed as the alternate member for
the grand area public health.
>> Councelor Huffman seconding.
» Councelor Huffman seconding.
The only thing um additional information
I would add to that for council's
consideration before I check and see if
there's any other additional
nominations. Councelor Huffman had
mentioned the conflict with police
service board which does happen. Um
however, it's uh it you are still able
to tune in virtually and participate in
some of the meetings. So, it's not a a
complete write off if that interests any
of the police service board or OP board
members. Are there any other nominations
to put forward on this?
Okay, I'll call the question. Um, moved
by councelor Vampass and seconded by
councelor Huffman. The council appoints
uh councelor Michelle to act as the
alternate member of council on the grand
public board of health. All in favor?
Any opposed? Motion's carried. Thank you
very much, councelor Michelle, for
stepping up and adding to your committee
work.
Any notice of motions? I have none other
business.
Councelor Columbus.
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. Just wanted to
make a statement with respect to the
power outages in the Delhigh area. So,
I'll read the statement that I prepared.
In recent months, residents of the
Delhigh community have experienced a
significant increase in electrical power
outages.
Some report loss of freezer food and
being without heat for more than a whole
day. Some I even heard as much as two
days. A number of individuals have taken
to social media, specifically talk
Delhigh, indicating that the W3
counselor in Norfor County should be
taking the power outage issue more
seriously.
I have come to learn that
hydrogeneration and distribution
including reliability of service is a
provincial issue and not a local Norfolk
issue. Hydraw 1 is affiliated with
Ontario as the province remains its
largest shareholder granting it
influence while Hydraw 1 operates as a
public traded company with a mandate to
maintain critical electricity
transmission distribution
infrastructure in Ontario. subject to
provincial oversight and regulatory
control by the Ontario Energy Board.
Although the power outage issue is an
Ontario government responsibility, I did
reach out to Hydro1 officials regarding
residents outage concerns. Hydro 1 is
well aware of the outage concerns and
held a team meeting to discuss frequency
of outages and indicated they would
explore the matter further. A municipal
relations department official
has indicated that Hydro 1 will be
completing a patrol of the power lines
to identify areas that may require
maintenance or repair. This includes
inspecting equipment and any forestry
maintenance that may need to be
completed. In addition, they are taking
further steps to strengthen the system
reliability by reviewing infrastructure
plans in the area to better support
long-term reliability.
I do not subscribe to social media.
However, with respect to the power
outage issue, I have been subjected to a
number of derogatory remarks by a
certain individual who has made several
false statements, accusations regarding
my integrity representing W 3. And on uh
February 10th, this individual will be
coming to counciling committee to make a
deputation. I don't know what it's going
to be about, but anyway, we'll we'll see
looking forward. This individual never
did ever contact me through email or by
phone. And uh here we are to share a few
comments
on the post. He indicated when the
doctors vacated Delhigh, he waved and
smiled.
You probably all remember the time I
made a statement here at council. It was
uh April 24th, 2023.
Front page headlines. Simco reformer
family health team moved from Delhigh
worries community members Columbus. So
there it is a false statement again. Um
he voted himself a raise and waves and
smiles.
Well you all know how I voted. It was a
record of vote. I voted against that. He
voted or he doesn't show up for anything
anymore yet is always there for the free
meals. How do you like that? And now
they think I control the switch to
power.
for going to Delhi.
Freedom of speech is everybody's right.
However, linguistically assaulting a
member of Norfol Council is out of
order. What recourse does an elected
member of council have when it comes to
social media?
» All right. Is that a rhetorical question
or you hoping for some discussion on
social media from council?
I missed that. Sorry, madam mayor.
>> Are you hoping for council to have
» Are you hoping for council to have
discussion on social media? Is that
>> uh Yes. I don't know. Maybe the CEO
» uh Yes. I don't know. Maybe the CEO
would like to make a comment on that. I
mentioned to him earlier what I was
going to do. So,
>> do you wish to make a comment?
» do you wish to make a comment?
>> Um through Madame Mayor. The only
» Um through Madame Mayor. The only
comment I will make is social media is
certainly growing in influence and there
are a lot of comments being made on
social media. um not a necessarily
um the best vehicle to confirm that the
the information being shared on social
media is factually correct. But uh it is
something that uh at the municipal level
every organization is working on options
and strategies to deal with social media
going forward.
Uh, I have councelor Bruntton then Van
Passen.
Councelor Van Passen on this topic. Go
ahead.
>> Well, I'm not sure if it's on this
» Well, I'm not sure if it's on this
topic. I want to talk about the power
outages, but uh which I think where we
started and would actually ask that uh
staff do contact Hydro1.
Um we get to brag a lot that uh Norfolk
County is such a great place because we
got 28% forest cover and we forget
sometimes that those forests also cover
the hydro lines cuz I have had a lot of
complaints as well. Um especially along
the lake shore, places like Normandale,
Fischer Glenn, um the wind blows, trees
fall down, takes down the hydrol lines,
they've got power outages, too. And it's
still uh Noral County's fault even
though we got nothing to do with it. But
I wonder if that might be possible that
staff uh talk to, you know, the powers
that be, you know, we have our crews
that are out up and down the road. Maybe
they can work with Hydro1 when they see
a tree that's hanging over the line or
something and uh maybe we can work out
something to the benefit of all the uh
the residents of Norfolk County. So,
>> councelor Duffy,
» councelor Duffy,
>> uh thank you, Madam Mayor. I would just
» uh thank you, Madam Mayor. I would just
sort of in response to Councelor
Columbus, I would say, you know, social
media is a dreadful animal uh often and
people take things they hear on there as
gospel and then spout it as if they're
preaching. Um, which is typically
incorrect. But what I would say is I
have welcomed the conversations that
I've been able to have with uh
individuals and residents that have read
things on social media and then reached
out to confirm. Um because when you have
the ability to have a discussion that is
actually rooted in fact uh you know you
can make further strides with that
individual. Uh so my encouragement
really would be to the residents that
are reading these things on social and
assuming that they're gospel don't don't
believe everything that you read and in
fact uh reach out to your uh your
representative be it at this level or at
other levels um and to seek
clarification and then make your
determination from there.
>> All right. Thanks for those comments.
» All right. Thanks for those comments.
Much appreciated.
Anyone else for or sorry, Council
Breton, other business?
>> Uh, yeah. Thank you, Mayor Martin. I
» Uh, yeah. Thank you, Mayor Martin. I
just want to take a minute toh
congratulate Andrew and his staff for
all the hard work they're doing out
there with the snow plowing and the cold
weather. I can appreciate some of the
issues you're probably dealing with, but
I would uh tell you that I have had some
very interesting comments from people. a
few not so favorable, but the majority
are uh
very much appreciate the work you are
doing and I hope you pass that on to
your staff. Thank you,
>> Councelor Duffy.
» Councelor Duffy.
>> Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. If I could
» Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. If I could
maybe just get some uh sort of pose a
question of staff and I think I know the
answer, but uh the status of the pool as
of today
uh through the mayor. Um work is moving
along. Uh we thought obviously we were
going to be open sooner um but the water
chemistry was was the issue. So, I don't
have an exact date on opening, but uh I
have been assumed or I assume from the
talks I had with staff earlier this week
that the pool will be up and running
this week. And I apologize. I don't have
an exact time, but I will get that and
email counselors with the exact date.
» Sorry, thank you for that. This has just
triggered a question for me though that
I may pose to Miss Van Djk. My
apologies, Madame Mayor. I beg your
indulgence. I could swear on social
media today, as much as we were just
talking about that, I saw a post from
Norfol County that said the Enley's car
aquatic center was open today
>> and that could very well be as I said, I
» and that could very well be as I said, I
haven't talked to staff uh this week
about it. It was it was earlier this
week.
>> So, Madame Mayor, threw you to council.
» So, Madame Mayor, threw you to council.
Um, I am aware that communication staff
have been in regular contact with
recreation staff and providing updates,
but I will confirm with them uh right
now um whether they're referencing the
building being open or the pool or both.
» Anyone else for other business?
Great. General announcements,
staff.
All righty, we're cruising along with
that. We have four late close session
items today.
Uh mover and a seconder, please p to
move into close session for uh several
reasons here. Councelor Varian Huffman
move pursuant to section 2392 of the
Municipal Act 2001 as amended as a
subject matter pertains to B personal
matters about an identifiable individual
including municipal or local board
employees and E litigation or potential
litigation including matters before
administrative tribunals affecting the
municipality or local board and H
information explicitly supplied in
confidence to the municipality or local
board by Canada a province or territory
or crown agency of any of them. Items
18.1 through to 18.4 are on the agenda.
Um, and for those virtually, let's just
take a five minute break and and
jump into close session at 301.
Thanks.
>> Okay.
» Okay.
>> Sorry,
» Sorry,
that's carried.
Life depends on to restore this pond.
We're removing the excess sediment and
transporting it to a licensed site.
We're also clearing invasive plants,
reshaping the pond's banks, and
upgrading the outlet that controls the
flow of water. This work will improve
water quality, allow the pond to hold
more water, reduce flooding risk, and
provide a healthier habitat for plants
and wildlife.
Storm water management isn't just about
what you see on the surface. It's also
about the infrastructure underground. We
use special tools to locate, map, and
inspect the pipes and infrastructure
that connect the ponds to the wider
storm water system. This helps us to
understand how water moves through our
communities and identify issues that
need our attention. It's likely that you
or someone that you know has been
impacted by flooding, erosion, or
drainage issues. All of that connects
back to storm water. Storm water
management isn't just about pipes and
ponds. It's about protecting the
communities and the nature that
surrounds us. As Norfolk County grows,
so does our responsibility to manage
storm water. And that's our job. With
smart planning, hard work, and community
support, we're building a cleaner,
safer, and more resilient future
together.
Welcome to Norfolk County, where land
meets lake and opportunity grows deep
and wide.
Located on the north shore of Lake Erie
in the heart of southwestern Ontario,
Norfolk spans 1600 square kilm making us
one of Ontario's largest single tier
municipalities.
Our roots run deep in agriculture, food
production, and advanced manufacturing
industries that shaped our past and are
powering Ontario's future economy. Home
to over 70,000, we are bold, diverse,
and fiercely local. From Port Dober to
Longpoint, our folks are putting down
roots. Sometimes in sand, sometimes in
soil, but always in a place they're
proud to call home. Big land, big
vision, unmatched potential. That's
Norfolk.
» Hey, Norfolk County. Hey, Norfolk
County.
>> Hey, Norfol County. Hey, Norfolk County.
» Hey, Norfol County. Hey, Norfolk County.
>> Hey, Norfolk County.
» Hey, Norfolk County.
>> Hey, Norfolk County.
» Hey, Norfolk County.
>> My name is Bowden Wiki.
» My name is Bowden Wiki.
>> My name is Lindsay Calokoski.
» My name is Lindsay Calokoski.
>> My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park
» My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park
student.
>> I work as an economic development
» I work as an economic development
coordinator.
>> I work on roads department in Delhigh.
» I work on roads department in Delhigh.
>> I work as a supervisor for waste
» I work as a supervisor for waste
management.
>> I work as a committee coordinator in the
» I work as a committee coordinator in the
clerk's department.
>> Okay. What's the first question?
» Okay. What's the first question?
>> Um, what I love about my job is the
» Um, what I love about my job is the
people.
>> All right. What do I love about my job?
» All right. What do I love about my job?
>> It's really the community. No day is the
» It's really the community. No day is the
same. It
>> is cuz I get to work with a bunch of
» is cuz I get to work with a bunch of
great guys.
>> It directly impacts really positively
» It directly impacts really positively
the residents of Norol County.
>> Uh I love the people that I get a chance
» Uh I love the people that I get a chance
to work with. Every day is different.
The mix of things is what makes me happy
and keeps me going.
>> First and foremost, the the community uh
» First and foremost, the the community uh
the people of this community are so
welcoming is the amazing team I get to
work with every day here at Norfol
County.
>> Opportunity to help people uh to help my
» Opportunity to help people uh to help my
community. And one of the things I love
the most about my job is my team. I I
love who I work with and um what I do
while I'm here.
I get to work on projects and in
programs that support our community that
help make lives better for the people
who live here, who work here, and who
come here to visit. Every day you feel
like you've accomplished something on
the way home and you're working with a
bunch of great people who are equally as
committed to the community and serving
our communities.
>> The pace here is uh very good and uh
» The pace here is uh very good and uh
great uh work life balance.
>> They put wellness on the forefront. So
» They put wellness on the forefront. So
I'm part of the Apple committee and
there's lots of opportunity at Norfol
County.
>> Flexible work hours, great work life
» Flexible work hours, great work life
balance, great staff, great friends and
of course what's not to love about
Norfol County for Ontario's garden.
>> I love helping people. I love helping
» I love helping people. I love helping
residents and that's what makes Norfol
County a great place to come to work.
>> I chose to work for Norfol County
» I chose to work for Norfol County
because I grew up in Delhigh so it's
close to home and I've enjoyed working
for my community and my friends and
family.
>> Definitely 100% the people. There are
» Definitely 100% the people. There are
lots of community champions and
everyone's been so kind and welcoming
>> because I was born and raised here and I
» because I was born and raised here and I
wanted to help give back to my
community.
>> I love giving back to a community that I
» I love giving back to a community that I
grew up in. I love my team and I love
that I can leave a legacy here in the
Twin Cities.
>> When I had the opportunity to come home
» When I had the opportunity to come home
and and serve the public, I jumped at
that opportunity. I started my career as
an area planner for this place. It's
interesting that the end of my career,
this opportunity came up to come back
and make Norfolk a better place. Is
being able to live and work in the
community that uh we're a part of. I did
choose to work for Norfolk because I'm
an engineer by trade and I like to solve
problems and realized how rewarding it
was to be able to contribute to
initiatives within the area that I've
always called home. I love it here. You
should consider uh joining the public
sector, joining the municipality because
it's so diverse. There's something for
everyone. Local government is the
closest to the people. We get to work
with our residents day in and day out
and there is something for you in every
department for Norfolk.
» Hey Norfol County, do you know how your
property taxes are spent? Let's take a
look together. First, we need to start
with Norfol County's budget. Every year,
staff and council confirm the funds
required to be collected from the
property taxes paid by you and 35,000
other Norfol County taxpayers.
These funds contribute to Norfol
County's levy and capital budgets, which
lay out how your tax dollars are used.
The capital budget is also funded by the
rate budget, the funds paid by
residents, known as rateayers, for water
and wastewater services through their
monthly water bill.
The levy budget is used to deliver
programs and services for residents
ranging from emergency services like
fire and EMS, waste services like
garbage collection, recreation services
like arenas, trails, and parks,
maintenance services like snow removal
and road repair, and human services like
homelessness prevention and health
education programs. Our levy budget also
supports our libraries and museums,
administrative services for council, and
the many staff who keep Norfolk County
operating.
Services like recreation programs for
children, adults, and seniors and our
Ride Norfolk transit program are also
paid for with property taxes and
supplemented by user fees.
And across Ontario, a portion of each
resident's property tax bill goes to our
local school boards.
About a third of the property taxes
collected are allocated to the capital
budget or reserves for future capital
spending, which includes other funding
sources like the federal and provincial
government, reserve funds, grants, debt,
and development charges, as well as
funds from the rate budget. Together,
the capital budget goes toward
longerterm projects such as our
investments in water and wastewater
facilities, as well as building and
renewing our parks, roadways, pools,
arenas, and other things we use every
day. So, the next time you hear someone
ask, "Where are my property taxes
going?" you can tell them to look down,
look up, and look forward. Your tax
dollars are at work all around you every
day. When you visit your local park with
your family, drive to work on cleared
roads, register for swimming lessons,
get rid of that old couch you've
outgrown, or contact Service Norfol
about that pothole on your street that
needs to be fixed.
Your tax dollars are also being invested
in initiatives to improve the lives of
Norfol County residents in the years to
come to make Norfol County a better
place for future generations.
While Norfol County's budget is prepared
once a year, your feedback helps us make
decisions and plan for the future. We
are committed to listening to you so
that our budget reflects what is
important to our community. Learn more
about Norfol County's budget at
norol.ca/
>> Today, we're announcing an exciting
» Today, we're announcing an exciting
partnership with Scotland and Norfol
County Economic Development, and we're
transforming transport trailers into
mobile ambassadors. We're showcasing
Norfolk's story of opportunity,
excellence, and quality of life across
all of North America. And Scotland is
the ideal partner with an amazing
logistics network and will help us share
our story all across North America.
Heat.
Hey, Heat.
Uh oh.
Hi, I'm Jacob and I'm here to take you
behind the scenes on a capital project
in Norfol County. We begin planning
capital projects by analyzing our
infrastructure needs related to roads,
water manes, storm and sanitary sewers
as well as bridges. We assess their
overall condition, age, and servicing
requirements. This provides a solid
foundation to ensure Norfolk has the
hard infrastructure for current and
future needs. Once a project is
determined and approved by council, we
retain an engineer to complete the
design. During this stage, we engage the
public through public information
centers or postings on the county
website to inform them of the upcoming
project and provide an opportunity to
share feedback. After the design is
completed and all approvals are in
place, we hire a contractor through a
public bidding process. During the
construction phase, we track progress,
budget, and continue to engage with the
public. We also work with other
departments to ensure the overall
success of the project. Once complete,
we report and track any warranty issues
for 2 years. We measure a project's
success by its ability to enhance
infrastructure and positively impact
residents. As a Norfol County employee,
I enjoy building the community that has
given me so much. Thank you for taking
the time to join me on this
behind-the-scenes tour.
Deputations are a way for you and all
residents of Norfol County to speak
before council about relevant matters in
our community.
To begin, search www.norfocount.ca.
Then select the government tab.
Under the government tab, select provide
deputation/spe
at a council or committee meeting.
This page provides general information
regarding deputations. Under the
subheading register to speak, click the
public hearing/deputation form link to
pre-register your deputation.
Notice of collection. By checking the
notice of collection box, you are
agreeing to the above statement.
Selecting the type of meeting you want.
There are several types of meetings that
allow deputations. Please listen closely
as we explain each option. Council
meeting. Council deputations must
pertain to a matter listed on the
upcoming meeting agenda. For the
remaining meeting choices, you may
present a deputation if the topic
pertains to the committee you are
presenting to. Once you select the type
of meeting you want to deliver your
deputation, you can complete the rest of
the document. Now, choose whether you
will attend the meeting in person or
virtually.
Finally, select if you will be providing
materials during your deputation. If you
have materials for distribution during
the council meeting, please bring 15
hard copies for council and staff. Now,
click next to move to step two.
In step two, please fill out your
personal information.
Once your personal information is
completed, click next.
Lastly, review your information and
select next to submit your form. You
have now completed the deputation
request form. You will receive a
confirmation email from the clerk's
department that they've received your
request. Next, we will talk about what
to do on the day of your deputation.
>> So, you've received your approval and
» So, you've received your approval and
the day of your deputation is upon you.
For starters, council is located here at
50 Coburn Street. Now, there's two
entrances you can use when you arrive.
One is here located off Coburn and one
located off Talbet Street. When you
arrive, you'll have three main options
to park. The first is to park at the
Simco Town Center Mall, which is where
Food Basics is located.
Your second option is 2-hour street
parking on Court Street. And your third
option is 2-hour street parking on L
Street. If you can't find any parking in
any of those three options, don't worry.
Downtown Simco has plenty of street
parking in all of the surrounding areas.
If you enter through the Cobburn Street
doors, you'll have to make your way
through the building to get to council
chambers. But don't worry, if you
require any assistance, you can feel
free to ask Service Norfol at the front
desk.
Make your way along this path and you'll
end up in the main lobby. To your left,
there'll be an elevator. You can either
ring the bell or go ask people at the
front desk for assistance. If you don't
need to use the elevator, you can head
on up the green staircase and go up to
council doors. If you enter through the
Talbet street doors, the elevator will
be immediately in front of you or the
green staircase will be ready for you to
go up and deliver your presentation.
Once you reach the top of the stairs,
you'll have made it to council chambers.
Feel free to take a seat here or here
and wait for council to call your name
when it's time to present.
When council calls your name, make your
way to the podium and ensure that you
don't walk between the railing and the
chairs on your way there. When you
arrive at the podium, adjust it to your
desired height using the arrow buttons
and turn the microphone on using the
button on the right.
If you're giving your deputation in
front of council, begin by saying
through the mayor. If you're giving it
in front of a committee, begin by saying
through the chair. Then clearly state
your name and address and you'll have 5
minutes to give your presentation.
Upon having 1 minute remaining, the
chair will give you notice. When you're
finished your presentation, council may
have questions for you. Ensure that you
always begin your answer by saying
through the mayor or through the chair
to counselor and their last name. If you
can't answer the question, that's okay.
Inform council that you'll gather more
information and get back to them. After
that, council will have heard out what
you've had to say and they'll take
appropriate action as they deem
necessary. And now you finished your
deputation. You can either have a seat
and watch the rest of the meeting or you
can leave through the door that you came
in and ensure that you leave as quietly
as possible.
Hey, Norfol County. My name is Anna and
I'm here to share some water safety tips
to keep you and your family safe around
the water.
Knowing how to swim is a life skill and
an essential part of staying safe and
having fun. Swimming lessons are the
best way to learn essential swim
survival skills to recover from a fall
into deep water.
Think you're too old for lessons? There
are programs designed for teens and
adults as well.
With so many lakes and rivers, Canadians
of all ages are avid boers. Always wear
a life jacket. It could save your life.
Never swim alone, regardless of age and
skill level. Always swim with a buddy. A
buddy can throw you a buoyant aid if you
get into trouble. When possible, wait
into unknown waters to prevent injury.
Backyard pools are a great place to make
family memories. But remember, if you
are not within arms reach of your child
in and around the water, then you've
gone too far. Drowning can occur in as
little as 10 seconds, and it is silent.
Every drowning death is preventable.
Take time to educate yourself and those
around you to ensure you're staying safe
and having fun around the water. For
more information, visit norfolk
county.ca/watersafety.
We all have the right to feel safe at
work, when spending time with friends
and family,
when participating in activities, or
attending a public meeting or event.
Norfolk County is committed to ensuring
our spaces and workplaces are safe. Our
respect and responsibility policy
outlines the code of conduct for
employees, patrons, contractors,
volunteers, coaches, and spectators.
This code of conduct also applies to
phone calls, emails, and virtual and
social media platforms. We all play a
part in fostering a respectful and safe
environment. Inappropriate behaviors
such as swearing, name calling, verbal
and physical threats, physical violence,
harassment, and vandalism will not be
tolerated. Staff have the right to take
action when incidents occur. This may
include denying service, asking
individuals to leave, contacting the
police, or if necessary, suspending them
from county programs and facilities.
Those responsible for damaging county
property will be required to cover the
cost of repairs, fees, and lost
revenues.
We are committed to providing
highquality customer service and a safe
and respectful environment for all. For
more information about our respect and
responsibility policy, visit
norfolcount.ca/rnr.
Hi, I'm Lisa and I'm excited to take you
behind the scenes to meet Norfolk
County's aquatics team in action.
I think the people are what make the
job. I think working with the people
that I do, we're a great team. We work
really well together. That makes a
positive work environment. That makes a
positive work for the public as well.
They see that we work well together and
I think that benefits them as well. I
still love coming here every day. It's
an exciting job. It's always different.
You're always doing new things. Being
part of our team offers staff the
opportunity to develop essential skills
in lifeguarding. Teaching swimming
lessons, customer service, first aid,
and of course, teamwork.
>> I think swimming in general is a really
» I think swimming in general is a really
great skill to have from a very young
age. So, being a part of children
learning how to swim is super important
to me. It's a really rewarding process
to see them go from not the greatest
swimmer to a better or great swimmer.
It's a really good stepping stone to
what I want to do in the future.
>> It's just a nice variety and everybody
» It's just a nice variety and everybody
brings something different and special
to the team.
>> Our aquatics team is dedicated to
» Our aquatics team is dedicated to
educating the community on water safety
and drowning prevention. You might be a
quiet student coming in and this job is
really going to push you to find your
voice and be like an impactful member of
a team.
>> I love that it's different every day and
» I love that it's different every day and
you get to meet new people every day and
see some of the same faces every day as
well. But my job is different every
single day. I don't do the same. So,
it's amazing.
>> As a proud Norville County employee, I'm
» As a proud Norville County employee, I'm
honored to be part of a team delivering
life-saving skills to our community.
Thank you for joining me on this
behind-the-scenes tour. I hope this
video gives you a glimpse of what it's
like to be part of our aquatics team. If
you're interested in taking advanced
leadership courses to become a lifeguard
and instructor, visit norcount.ca.
Hey, Norfolk County. Whether you're a
longtime resident, new to the area, or
simply visiting, do you know about the
many services provided by Norfolk
County? As a single tier municipality,
we provide services that our community
uses every day, including water and fire
protection, curbside garbage and
recycling, road and sidewalk
maintenance, and so much more. We also
provide services needed at unique times
in life, such as a marriage or business
license, or a dog tag for your new
companion. And the unique geographic
features in Norfolk County from farmland
and forests to lakes and wetlands means
we also provide specialized services
ranging from drainage applications to
tree inspections.
Wondering how to contact Norfolk County?
Start with Service Norfolk. Our friendly
team of agents is here to help. Reach us
by phone at 519-426-5870
or 226 Norfolk from 8:30 to 4:30 Monday
to Friday. Calling about an issue after
hours? No problem. We have you covered.
Prefer online? Email ask
us@norfolocount.ca
anytime or use our customer service
portal at service.norfolocount.ca
CA and get a reply right to your email
inbox. Want to visit us in person? Come
to one of our friendly customer service
counters in Simco Monday to Friday or
Delhigh Tuesday to Thursday. Service
Norfolk, connecting you to Norfol County
services.
» Meet Captain Clean, the toilet paper
superhero here to protect Norfolk
County's pipes and keep everything
flowing smoothly. Remember, only flush
the three P's. Pee, poop, and toilet
paper. Flushing anything else can cause
big trouble. Things like wipes, hair, or
grease can create sewer blockages. These
blockages restrict flow. Combine with
other debris and causely damage,
overflow, and even water pollution. By
sticking to the three Ps, you can help
prevent clogs, reduce repair costs, and
keep our water clean. For items you
can't flush, proper disposal is key.
Throw regular waste in the garbage. Do
not believe claims on packaging that
products are flushable. Take it from
Captain Clean. They are not. Household
hazardous waste can be dropped off at
Norfolk's temporary depots during spring
and fall. For things like medication and
sharps disposal, take them to your local
pharmacy or the health unit. And
remember, grease belongs in the trash,
but let it cool and store it first.
Don't pour it down the drain. Be a
flushing hero like Captain Clean.
Together, we can protect our pipes, our
homes, and the environment. Remember,
only flush the three Ps. Norfolk County
is counting on you.
» Hi, I'm Dave. I'm here to take you
behind the scenes for a quick look at
what we do at Norfolk County's water
treatment facility. Here in Port Rowan,
the water treatment process starts by
pumping water from Lake Erie up into the
water treatment facility. Back in the
treatment facility, I inspect large
clarification tanks where the lake water
enters the plant. Here we add quagalin,
a chemical that attracts dirt particles
together. These form into larger
particles called flock, which eventually
sinks and is sent to waste. Next, the
water enters the filtration system where
any remaining dirt particles are trapped
by the filters. The water is then
chlorinated and sent into a 113 cubic
meter underground storage chamber. The
water is then taken to the granular
activated carbon filters that work like
superized 10,000 lb brittle filters to
remove taste and odor. The final step is
disinfection, which includes UV and a
final dose of chlorine, ensuring safe
potable drinking water. Water testing is
an important part of the job. Throughout
the day, we take water samples at
different stages of the process, up to
nine tests depending on the treatment
facility. As a Norfolk resident myself,
I'm proud to serve the community I live
in. Thanks for joining me in this
behindthescenes tour.
Heat. Heat.
Hey, Norfolk County. Did you know that
Ride Norfolk is now on demand? This
means you can schedule Norfolk's public
transit service to pick you up for
appointments, shopping, school, or work.
Ride Norfolk has partnered with Blaze
Transit to offer ondemand pickups at all
95 stops across Norfolk, including this
one. I booked my trip earlier today and
my bus is here right on time. Since
there are no fixed local schedules, you
can easily book Ride Norfolk over the
phone, online, or on the Blaze Transit
app from your smartphone. Thanks,
Charlie.
>> You're welcome. Ride Norfolk's customer
» You're welcome. Ride Norfolk's customer
service team can help answer any
questions you may have, get you started
with the app, or book your next ride. By
moving to on demand, Ride Norfolk is
helping more residents get where they
need to go. To learn more, visit norfolk
county.ca/transit.
Hi, I'm Marissa and I'm here to take you
behind the scenes for a quick look at
what we do at Norol County's waste and
recycling operations. Here at the
transfer station in Simco, residents can
bring a variety of waste materials for
disposal. Norfolk operates two transfer
stations welcoming about 27,000
customers every year and accepts
material ranging from bulky items, wood,
metal, and yard waste. Norfolk also
provides curbside waste programs.
Recycling from your home arrives at this
facility where it is manually sorted by
the type of material. You can see why
it's important to separate materials
into the correct bin, rinse recyclables,
and remove items from bags. This
facility processes 4600 metric tons per
year. That's equal to about 20 tons per
day. Once items are sorted by material
type, they are bailed and ready to be
shipped across North America to be made
into new material. About 8 to 10% of the
material that arrives here shouldn't
have been put in the recycling bin.
Residents can use our recycle coach app
to confirm if an item can be recycled.
After seeing how waste is handled, I
hope this video helps show why rinsing
and sorting your recyclables are
important steps in the recycling
process. As a Norfol County employee, I
am proud to serve the community I was
raised in. Thanks for joining me on this
behind-the-scenes tour.
This summer, discover the hidden gem of
Norfolk County, Ontario's garden. Stroll
through historic villages where time
seems to slow down. Feel the sand
between your toes on our pristine Lake
Eerie beaches. From live theater that
captivates to trails that wind through
breathtaking landscapes, adventure and
relaxation await at every turn. Meet the
farmers who grow your dinner and taste
wine and beer crafted right here.
Experience Norfolk County this summer,
where small town charm meets farm fresh
flavor. Ontario's garden. It's time you
came home to it.
Hey, Norol County. I'm Chris and I'm
here to take you behind the scenes to
show you how Norfol County manages storm
water in our towns and communities.
Storm water isn't just rain or melted
snow. It's any excess water that runs
off hard surfaces like roads, driveways,
and rooftops. But where does that water
go? And why is managing it important?
Norfolk storm water systems include
pipes, ditches, catch basins, and ponds
that work together to manage this
runoff. Storm water systems like ponds
slow the flow and allow dirt and
pollutants to settle and release cleaner
water into the environment. Without
proper management, storm water can flood
basements, damage roads, and carried
contaminants like oil, garbage, and salt
into our rivers and lakes. That's why
Norfolk County created a dedicated storm
water team in 2024 to better understand
and maintain what we already have while
planning for the future. This storm
water pond in Port Dover helps to reduce
flooding and improve water quality. Over
time, sediment and pollutants build up
within storm ponds, limiting their
ability to hold water. This creates an
ideal environment for algae and invasive
plants like fragmitees to flourish. This
fast growing species can block out the
flow of water and crowd out native
vegetation, reducing the habitat that
local wildlife depends on. To restore
this pond, we're removing the excess
sediment and transporting it to a
licensed site. We're also clearing
invasive plants, reshaping the pond's
banks, and upgrading the outlet that
controls the flow of water. This work
will improve water quality, allow the
pond to hold more water, reduce flooding
risk, and provide a healthier habitat
for plants and wildlife.
Storm water management isn't just about
what you see on the surface. It's also
about the infrastructure underground. We
use special tools to locate, map, and
inspect the pipes and infrastructure
that connect the ponds to the wider
storm water system. This helps us to
understand how water moves through our
communities and identify issues that
need our attention. It's likely that you
or someone that you know has been
impacted by flooding, erosion, or
drainage issues. All of that connects
back to storm water. Storm water
management isn't just about pipes and
ponds. It's about protecting the
communities and the nature that
surrounds us. As Norfolk County grows,
so does our responsibility to manage
storm water. And that's our job. With
smart planning, hard work, and community
support, we're building a cleaner,
safer, and more resilient future
together.
Welcome to Norfolk County, where land
meets lake and opportunity grows deep
and wide.
Located on the north shore of Lake Erie
in the heart of southwestern Ontario,
Norfolk spans 1600 square kilm, making
us one of Ontario's largest single tier
municipalities.
Our roots run deep in agriculture, food
production, and advanced manufacturing,
industries that shaped our past and are
powering Ontario's future economy. Home
to over 70,000, we are bold, diverse,
and fiercely local. From Port Dober to
Longpoint, our folks are putting down
roots. Sometimes in sand, sometimes in
soil, but always in a place they're
proud to call home. Big land, big
vision, unmatched potential. That's
Norfolk.
» Hey, Norol County. Hey, Norfol County.
>> Hey, Norol County. Hey, Norfolk County.
» Hey, Norol County. Hey, Norfolk County.
>> Hey, Norfolk County.
» Hey, Norfolk County.
>> Hey, Norfolk County.
» Hey, Norfolk County.
>> My name is Bowden Wiki.
» My name is Bowden Wiki.
>> My name is Lindsay Kalioski.
» My name is Lindsay Kalioski.
>> My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park
» My name is Alex Ryan. I work as a park
student.
>> I work as an economic development
» I work as an economic development
coordinator.
>> I work on roads department in Delhigh.
» I work on roads department in Delhigh.
>> I work as a supervisor for waste
» I work as a supervisor for waste
management.
>> I work as a committee coordinator in the
» I work as a committee coordinator in the
clerk's department.
>> Okay. What's the first question?
» Okay. What's the first question?
>> Um, what I love about my job is the
» Um, what I love about my job is the
people.
>> All right. What do I love about my job?
» All right. What do I love about my job?
>> It's really the community. No day is the
» It's really the community. No day is the
same. It
>> is cuz I get to work with a bunch of
» is cuz I get to work with a bunch of
great guys.
>> It directly impacts really positively
» It directly impacts really positively
the residents of Norfol County.
>> Uh I love the people that I get a chance
» Uh I love the people that I get a chance
to work with.
>> Every day is different. The mix of
» Every day is different. The mix of
things is what makes me happy and keeps
me going.
>> First and foremost, the the community uh
» First and foremost, the the community uh
the people of this community are so
welcoming. Is the amazing team I get to
work with every day here at Northfor
County.
>> Opportunity to help people uh to help my
» Opportunity to help people uh to help my
community. And one of the things I love
the most about my job is my team. I I
love who I work with and um what I do
while I'm here.
I get to work on projects and in
programs that support our community that
help make lives better for the people
who live here, who work here, and who
come here to visit. Every day you feel
like you've accomplished something on
the way home and you're working with a
bunch of great people who are equally as
committed to the community and serving
our communities.
>> The pace here is uh very good and uh
» The pace here is uh very good and uh
great uh work life balance.
>> They put wellness on the forefront. So
» They put wellness on the forefront. So
I'm part of the Apple committee and
there's lots of opportunity at Norfol
County.
>> Flexible work hours, great work life
» Flexible work hours, great work life
balance, great staff, great friends, and
of course what's not to love about
Norfol County for Ontario's garden.
>> I love helping people. I love helping
» I love helping people. I love helping
residents and that's what makes Norfol
County a great place to come to work.
>> I chose to work for Norfolk County
» I chose to work for Norfolk County
because I grew up in Delhigh so it's
close to home and I've enjoyed working
for my community and my friends and
family.
>> Definitely 100% the people. There are
» Definitely 100% the people. There are
lots of community champions and
everyone's been so kind and welcoming
>> because I was born and raised here and I
» because I was born and raised here and I
wanted to help give back to my
community.
>> I love giving back to a community that I
» I love giving back to a community that I
grew up in. I love my team and I love
that I can leave a legacy here in the
Twin Cities.
>> When I had the opportunity to come home
» When I had the opportunity to come home
and and serve the public, I jumped at
that opportunity. I started my career as
an area planner for this place. It's
interesting that the end of my career,
this opportunity came up to come back
and make Norfolk a better place. Is
being able to live and work in the
community that uh we're a part of. I did
choose to work for Norfolk because I'm
an engineer by trade and I like to solve
problems and realized how rewarding it
was to be able to contribute to
initiatives within the area that I've
always called home. I love it here. You
should consider uh joining the public
sector, joining the municipality because
it's so diverse. There's something for
everyone. Local government is the
closest to the people. We get to work
with our residents day in and day out
and there is something for you in every
department for Norfolk.
» Hey Norfol County, do you know how your
property taxes are spent? Let's take a
look together. First, we need to start
with Norfol County's budget. Every year,
staff and council confirm the funds
required to be collected from the
property taxes paid by you and 35,000
other Norfol County taxpayers.
These funds contribute to Norfol
County's levy and capital budgets, which
lay out how your tax dollars are used.
The capital budget is also funded by the
rate budget, the funds paid by
residents, known as rateayers, for water
and wastewater services through their
monthly water bill.
The levy budget is used to deliver
programs and services for residents
ranging from emergency services like
fire and EMS, waste services like
garbage collection, recreation services
like arenas, trails, and parks,
maintenance services like snow removal
and road repair, and human services like
homelessness prevention and health
education programs. Our levy budget also
supports our libraries and museums,
administrative services for council, and
the many staff who keep Norfol County
operating.
Services like recreation programs for
children, adults, and seniors and our
Ride Norfolk transit program are also
paid for with property taxes and
supplemented by user fees.
And across Ontario, a portion of each
resident's property tax bill goes to our
local school boards.
About a third of the property taxes
collected are allocated to the capital
budget or reserves for future capital
spending, which includes other funding
sources like the federal and provincial
government, reserve funds, grants, debt,
and development charges, as well as
funds from the rate budget. Together,
the capital budget goes toward
longerterm projects such as our
investments in water and wastewater
facilities, as well as building and
renewing our parks, roadways, pools,
arenas, and other things we use every
day. So, the next time you hear someone
ask, "Where are my property taxes
going?" you can tell them to look down,
look up, and look forward. Your tax
dollars are at work all around you every
day. When you visit your local park with
your family, drive to work on cleared
roads, register for swimming lessons,
get rid of that old couch you've
outgrown, or contact Service Norfolk
about that pothole on your street that
needs to be fixed.
Your tax dollars are also being invested
in initiatives to improve the lives of
Norfol County residents in the years to
come to make Norfol County a better
place for future generations.
While Norfol County's budget is prepared
once a year, your feedback helps us make
decisions and plan for the future. We
are committed to listening to you so
that our budget reflects what is
important to our community. Learn more
about Norfol County's budget at
norol.ca/
>> Today we're announcing an exciting
» Today we're announcing an exciting
partnership with Scotland and Norfol
County Economic Development and we're
transforming transport trailers into
mobile ambassadors. We're showcasing
Norfolk's story of opportunity,
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Hi, I'm Jacob and I'm here to take you
behind the scenes on a capital project
in Norfol County. We begin planning
capital projects by analyzing our
infrastructure needs related to roads,
water manes, storm and sanitary sewers,
as well as bridges. We assess their
overall condition, age, and servicing
requirements. This provides a solid
foundation to ensure Norfolk has the
hard infrastructure for current and
future needs. Once a project is
determined and approved by council, we
retain an engineer to complete the
design. During this stage, we engage the
public through public information
centers or postings on the county
website to inform them of the upcoming
project and provide an opportunity to
share feedback. After the design is
completed and all approvals are in
place, we hire a contractor through a
public bidding process. During the
construction phase, we track progress,
budget, and continue to engage with the
public. We also work with other
departments to ensure the overall
success of the project. Once complete,
we report and track any warranty issues
for 2 years. We measure a project's
success by its ability to enhance
infrastructure and positively impact
residents. As a Norfol County employee,
I enjoy building the community that has
given me so much. Thank you for taking
the time to join me on this
behind-the-scenes tour.
Deputations are a way for you and all
residents of Norfol County to speak
before council about relevant matters in
our community.
To begin, search www.norfocount
norfocount.ca.
Then select the government tab.
Under the government tab, select provide
deputation/sp speak at a council or
committee meeting. This page provides
general information regarding
deputations. Under the subheading
register to speak, click the public
hearing/deputation form link to
pre-register your deputation.
Notice of collection. By checking the
notice of collection box, you are
agreeing to the above statement.
Selecting the type of meeting you want.
There are several types of meetings that
allow deputations. Please listen closely
as we explain each option. Council
meeting. Council deputations must
pertain to a matter listed on the
upcoming meeting agenda. For the
remaining meeting choices, you may
present a deputation if the topic
pertains to the committee you are
presenting to. Once you select the type
of meeting you want to deliver your
deputation, you can complete the rest of
the document. Now, choose whether you
will attend the meeting in person or
virtually.
Finally, select if you will be providing
materials during your deputation. If you
have materials for distribution during
the council meeting, please bring 15
hard copies for council and staff. Now,
click next to move to step two.
In step two, please fill out your
personal information.
Once your personal information is
completed, click next.
Lastly, review your information and
select next to submit your form. You
have now completed the deputation
request form. You will receive a
confirmation email from the clerk's
department that they've received your
request. Next, we will talk about what
to do on the day of your deputation.
>> So, you've received your approval and
» So, you've received your approval and
the day of your deputation is upon you.
For starters, council is located here at
50 Colbert Street. Now, there's two
entrances you can use when you arrive.
One is here located off Corburn and one
located off Talbage Street. When you
arrive, you'll have three main options
to park. The first is to park at the
Simco Town Center Mall, which is where
Food Basics is located.
Your second option is 2-hour street
parking on Court Street. And your third
option is 2-hour street parking on L
Street. If you can't find any parking at
any of those three options, don't worry.
Downtown Simco has plenty of street
parking in all of the surrounding areas.
If you enter through the Cobburn street
doors, you'll have to make your way
through the building to get to council
chambers. But don't worry, if you
require any assistance, you can feel
free to ask Service Norfol at the front
desk.
Make your way along this path and you'll
end up in the main lob. To your left,
there'll be an elevator. You can either
ring the bell or go ask the people at
the front desk for assistance. If you
don't need to use the elevator, you can
head on up the green staircase and go up
to council doors. If you enter through
the Talbet Street doors, the elevator
will be immediately in front of you or
the green staircase will be ready for
you to go up and deliver your
presentation.
Once you've reached the top of the
stairs, you'll have made it to council
chambers.
Feel
free to take a seat here or here and
wait for council to call your name when
it's time to present.
When council calls your name, make your
way to the podium and ensure that you
don't walk between the railing and the
chairs on your way there. When you
arrive at the podium, adjust it to your
desired height using the arrow buttons
and turn the microphone on using the
button on the right.
If you're giving your deputation in
front of council, begin by saying
through the mayor. If you're giving it
in front of a committee, begin by saying
through the chair. Then clearly state
your name and address and you'll have 5
minutes to give your presentation. Upon
having 1 minute remaining, the chair
will give you notice. When you're
finished your presentation, council may
have questions for you. Ensure that you
always begin your answer by saying
through the mayor or through the chair
to counselor and their last name. If you
can't answer the question, that's okay.
Inform council that you'll gather more
information and get back to them. After
that, council will have heard out what
you've had to say and they'll take
appropriate action as they deem
necessary. And now you finished your
deputation. You can either have a seat
and watch the rest of the meeting or you
can leave through the door that you came
in and ensure that you leave as quietly
as possible.
Hey, Norfolk County. My name is Anna and
Well, well, the sound was all off. So,
anyway, and I'm sure in council chamber.
>> Welcome back everyone. Motion to
» Welcome back everyone. Motion to
reconvene in open session 3:56 p.m.
Moved by councelor Van Passen. Seconded
by councelor Dthy. All in favor? That is
carried. And to report out item 18.1 was
received as information. 18.2 was
received a verbal update as information
and direction was provided. 18.3
received as information and 18.4
uh also verbal update received as
information. Anything I missed there?
>> Great. Confirming bylaw uh motion to
let's see here. Confirm the proceedings
of the council of Norfolk County. This
regular council meeting held on the 27th
day of January 2026 be read a first,
second, and third time and finally
passed in open session. Moved by
councelor Michelle and seconded by
councelor Barry. All in favor? Carried.
And councelor Michelle is moving
adjourment 3:57 p.m. Seconded by
councelor Dathy. All in favor carried.
Thank you very much everyone. Good
afternoon.