1 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:18,000 good evening everybody I would like to call this regular council meeting to 2 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:24,080 order on May the 21st 2024 at 7 p.m. we will stay seated for a moment of 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,080 Silent reflection 4 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:44,399 thank you very much as we gather this evening I would like to acknowledge on 5 00:00:42,559 --> 00:00:48,480 behalf of council and our community that we are meeting on the traditional 6 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:52,559 territory of the adonan people we would like to thank the adonan people and 7 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:56,480 express our respect and support for their Rich history and we are extremely 8 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,960 grateful for their many and continued displays of friendship we also thank all 9 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,600 the generations of people who have taken care of this land for thousands of 10 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:14,080 years on behalf of council and myself I want to apologize to the residents who 11 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:17,560 attended our May 7th 2024 meeting for failing to open the doors for the public 12 00:01:15,759 --> 00:01:23,000 when the council came out of our closed meeting we'll make every effort to 13 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:27,000 ensure this does not happen again Public Works staff have been preparing our 14 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:32,119 Public Works parks and washrooms for the May 18th 2024 opening the Victoria Day 15 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:36,280 long weekend brings many of our seasonal residents and visitors to our 16 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:41,119 communities Extra Care and attention is required on our road sites and rivers 17 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:44,640 with this increase in traffic with the rainfall we have received in the past 18 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:50,799 few weeks most of our Lakes have returned to near normal levels on Sunday 19 00:01:47,159 --> 00:01:55,520 May 19th 2024 the goldm Property Owners Association held their annual Fish Fry 20 00:01:53,399 --> 00:02:01,159 at the Red Pine camp on Island View Drive from 12:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. new 21 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:06,719 this year was live music a beer tent and a fish Derby for the children and from 22 00:02:04,479 --> 00:02:12,440 speaking to councelor Burnt who attended he said approximately 250 people were in 23 00:02:09,679 --> 00:02:19,160 attendance which is good news on Monday May 27th 2024 MP John 24 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:24,480 yakabuski hosting a rental County day at Queens Park Wan Nemo CAO K Kelly senior 25 00:02:22,959 --> 00:02:30,080 leadership staff and committee chairpersons will have an opportunity to 26 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:34,720 meet with various provincial Ministries and finally on May the 11th 2024 I 27 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:39,640 attended father Ken O'Brien's retirement from the priesthood after 50 years of 28 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:44,040 dedicated service father Ken served many of the real community churches in R 29 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:54,640 County and then I have a motion that May 21st 2024 mayor's address be accepted as 30 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,720 presented mooved by councelor Burn seconded by councelor 31 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:08,159 buckhalt comments questions seeing none councelor bur yes councelor 32 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:13,959 Robinson yes councelor buckwald yes coun Rey Sho yes yes that is cared thank 33 00:03:15,799 --> 00:03:21,159 you are there any Declarations of pecuniary interest and the general 34 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:25,120 nature thereof seen none then we'll move to the 35 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:31,319 adoption of the minutes and I have a motion that the May 6 36 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:36,280 2024 special and the May May 7th 2024 regular Council minutes be accepted as 37 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:42,799 presented mov by councelor Robinson seconded By councelor Buck 38 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:47,159 Walt comments or questions any additions Corrections 39 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:52,640 yes to confirming bylaw for the May 6 meeting it was moved by Council buckwell 40 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,640 and second by Council 41 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,959 buckwell doing double Dy 42 00:03:59,959 --> 00:04:07,959 confirm will that special meeting yeah confirm it 43 00:04:10,799 --> 00:04:23,400 was that dat the six six yeah that's the sow one special me 44 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:28,000 minutes you'll have to check that FL yes okay so we'll note that uh 45 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:36,520 correction and I'll call the vote councelor burs yes councelor Robinson 46 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:41,880 yes councelor buckwald yes councel re shuls yes I yes that is carried 47 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:53,080 you and that brings us to delegations and it's our pleasure tonight that we 48 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:59,440 have Mariel Birch who will be doing a delegation and uh please come forward M 49 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,440 you 50 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:11,479 Mr girls and council members and staff thank you for giving me this chance to 51 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,720 speak to you tonight I've got a few notes in front of 52 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:21,120 me because I'm going to touch on a lot little topics and I don't want to miss 53 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:24,639 one so and as I said in my letter to you I wanted a chance to let you know what 54 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:31,280 it looked like from the other side of the table and how difficult it seems to 55 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:36,759 communicate with elected officials because I just can't seem to get through 56 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:42,120 the most of you when I want to or when I need something or how long it takes and 57 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:49,440 I'm sure I'm not the only one so the following comments and concerns are mine 58 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:55,720 and M alone and my opinion and I don't come with any disrespect for 59 00:05:52,680 --> 00:06:02,120 anyone at this table or any council members it just it just comes that I 60 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:05,880 just don't think we're communicating very well with the 61 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:12,680 public and I have to say that when I come to 62 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:18,160 attend a meeting it's not a welcoming atmosphere when you walk in here and it 63 00:06:15,599 --> 00:06:23,199 hasn't been until the last uh well once I sent my letter it seemed to get a 64 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:28,520 little better I wonder why but anyhow it isn't welcoming there's tension in the 65 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:35,840 room there's tension with everyone it just does not feel good and I don't 66 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:42,280 really know why but it doesn't it's there's a distance in here it's not it's 67 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:48,960 not relating with the public and that's the way I feel and I have to say when Co 68 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:54,880 was over and we were allowed back into the chambers there were four chairs and 69 00:06:51,639 --> 00:07:00,479 on those chairs there there was this notice that told us how to act I felt 70 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:07,319 that was a real slap in the face it felt like you were treating the 71 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:13,599 public like a kindergarten Fox like we didn't know how to 72 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:19,120 act if we were going to cause a fuss or uh be 73 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:24,680 disrespectful Mr BRS could have said out and we'd have went I I I just felt it 74 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:30,800 was a real put down like as if we shouldn't be here 75 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:35,280 and that's the way I took it I come to the meetings to see what I can 76 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:43,479 learn about our Township and what's going on what projects might be coming 77 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:47,639 up what projects are going on how my tax dollars are being spent and are they 78 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:53,080 being spent well or I mean that's that's my opinion 79 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:59,879 whether they are or not and it's your opinion but I I just that's why I come 80 00:07:57,639 --> 00:08:07,319 and I would like to see what council has to say about any of these things uh I 81 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:12,159 hear very very little discussion at this Council table I don't know when the 82 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:18,879 discussions take place I don't know when you talk about these things that appear 83 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:26,120 on the agenda but I don't hear them here um so I I I guess I wonder how do you 84 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:30,599 come to these decisions do you get a a an agenda and you go from there and 85 00:08:28,919 --> 00:08:36,120 everybody just does their own thing because I don't hear much here very 86 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:39,320 little I mean there's some of course but and there does seem to be tension in 87 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:44,080 this room with rate payers and councel it's 88 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:51,720 as if um it's a dividing line we're not all 89 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:57,519 together and we should be I mean we are the r payers here we pay the bills it's 90 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:02,560 our taxes so I I don't know why the tension it's as if there's a secret that 91 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:07,519 that we shouldn't know and and so you you don't want to discuss it in front of 92 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:13,279 us or in front of me anyway I don't know so it seems very difficult to get to 93 00:09:10,279 --> 00:09:19,640 talk to members of council and staff without filling in a 94 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:23,920 form or waiting for call backs I get that we're busy and everyone's busy and 95 00:09:22,079 --> 00:09:29,519 so there's an answering machine down here that takes your message and that's 96 00:09:26,839 --> 00:09:34,760 fine I can understand if you're busy and answer the phone but for every call does 97 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:40,440 it have to go to an answering machine because there's more time wasted call 98 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:44,959 backs more time for me to sit there and wait for a call and then we play phone 99 00:09:42,959 --> 00:09:49,399 tag for how long till we finally get through each other I I don't feel that's 100 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:55,640 a good use of time be meetings since my next topic as 101 00:09:53,560 --> 00:10:00,839 a rate payer sitting in the audience of a regular meeting many times it is 102 00:09:58,519 --> 00:10:06,880 difficult to hear everyone so you have to remember to speak up maybe some 103 00:10:04,279 --> 00:10:11,600 people need a mic I don't know what it is and if you're online it's also 104 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:17,519 difficult to hear people now I have to admit I haven't listened online recently 105 00:10:14,839 --> 00:10:23,640 because I'm here but I don't know if it's the owl in the sky or what it is 106 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:31,519 that doesn't pick us up or or pick you up or whatever and uh anyway it is 107 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:37,760 difficult and I don't hear it that well on the internet and it seems to take a 108 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:43,440 long time for the minute of the a council meeting to get to the utbe I 109 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:48,720 don't know why it's take tonight why it can't be there tomorrow it's everybody's 110 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:52,959 on technology everybody can click a button and it's there tomorrow and it 111 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:58,079 doesn't seem to get there tomorrow so I don't know what takes so 112 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:04,040 long I listen to a couple of other Township meetings quite 113 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:08,519 frequently and I learn about upcoming events things that are going on 114 00:11:06,519 --> 00:11:14,000 regulations coming down from the government things like that and I hear 115 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:18,959 discussions taking place among all the members at the council table and so I 116 00:11:17,079 --> 00:11:25,600 know their feeling and what they're thinking I don't hear that here I I 117 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:30,480 don't know what it is but anyway if I don't hear then I can I can learn a lot 118 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:36,920 from them I wish I could learn the same from here 119 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:43,639 technology I'm old I know that and I come from the old generation so I don't 120 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:49,600 do well with computers Facebook Etc even my cell phone was a challenge to 121 00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:54,639 me and I'm sure you realize that in our Township we have a lot of 122 00:11:51,959 --> 00:11:59,680 seniors I mean we're made up of seniors here and they have to be in the same 123 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:05,920 boat I am a lot of them they just can't handle this so they can't get to this 124 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:09,920 information and another thing a lot of them don't have reliable internet to to 125 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:16,240 be able to GA and we're also made up of a lot of 126 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:22,800 farmers in this area they do not have time to spend on their computers getting 127 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:25,480 emails or anything else and pH me up and ask me if I was at a meeting do I know 128 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:34,560 what's going on I don't know why but anyway 129 00:12:29,959 --> 00:12:40,399 and the tax bill the last tax bill we received uh when I got it in the mail 130 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:46,079 beautiful nice nice color looks 131 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:52,279 great did it cost to put that out in color and and and how many people really 132 00:12:49,440 --> 00:13:00,440 paid attention to it I don't know second thing on this thing under 133 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:05,880 what what our community expects listen to the consist 134 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:11,440 constituency constituents now I don't know how you 135 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:19,240 can listen when we can't get to you or I can't seem to get you but that 136 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:25,079 that's what's on there so and I sat at a meeting here where you discussed the uh 137 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:29,440 little yellow tag for over half an hour we spent on that one night at a meeting 138 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:33,079 deciding whether we put it in the tax filler we wouldn't put it in the tax 139 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:37,920 bill NOP we wouldn't put it in the tax fill up it's going to cost money to 140 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:42,560 print off that size the sheet to go in the tax bill instead we as a rate payer 141 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:49,120 should drive down here and pick it out but the price of gas today I don't think 142 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:53,079 so so like that's something you could have did for the rate payers to sent 143 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:57,279 that little thing and even now that I've got it I can't really understand it 144 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:02,880 there's two gates at the top I don't know if I can go to each of 145 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:08,759 those because then down further it says only one coupon per 911 address so does 146 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:14,920 that mean I can only go to one of those I'm I'm not sure what it's saying anyway 147 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:22,519 that's that's just a comment I'm making uh forms do people in this 148 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:26,240 Township know what the Strategic plan is or the service 149 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:32,040 tracker I'm not even sure I know what the heck the service tracker is so I 150 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:37,240 don't know how many people know this it seems that there's say there's 151 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:42,519 so many forms that it just takes so long to get anything done I wrote a letter 152 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:47,959 asking to be put on the agenda at the delegation but was then told I had to 153 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:52,399 fill out a form I wrote the letter I said exactly what I wanted but that 154 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:55,639 wasn't good enough I had to fill out a form and put it on a form I don't know 155 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:59,600 what the difference was because the form didn't give you as much information as I 156 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:05,839 gave you in my letter we didn't have a contact to get back to you you couldn't 157 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:13,759 find me I couldn't find you everybody in this room I think pretty well knows 158 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:18,800 me however that's why we need a form that's why you need a form well you 159 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:23,040 could have asked but anyway 160 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:28,160 apologize the question period we had a question period years ago and I think it 161 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:32,399 worked well it might have only been 5 or 10 minutes at the end of a meeting but 162 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:37,519 it was enough to be able to ask a question or get something clarified like 163 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:43,519 that little yellow sheet in here I think it was a good thing because we might 164 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:47,720 learn something and we might learn something from each 165 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:52,399 other the website not a good website as far as I'm 166 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:56,759 concerned and I don't know anything so maybe I'm being too judgmental about 167 00:15:54,360 --> 00:16:03,319 that but I can't seem to find anything on it and I don't know how often it's 168 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:09,279 updated or what but there's still today a thing on it saying that that closure 169 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:14,519 on black road is now open and you can drive through well that was way back at 170 00:16:12,279 --> 00:16:19,399 April 26th and it's still on there I don't know why it's on there that road's 171 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:26,519 been open since then pretty well all the time so anyway that's that's the website 172 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:33,000 I'm not happy with the quarterly newspaper newsletter it's it looks 173 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:36,839 beautiful it really does but it doesn't give much information about our Township 174 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,600 it doesn't tell what much about our area it might pick 175 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:47,880 up one person or another person but it doesn't really tell you what's going on 176 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:53,759 it doesn't tell you what uh project projects are being done what roads are 177 00:16:50,000 --> 00:17:00,759 being done what is being done to the roads a lot of people don't know um I I 178 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:05,559 know our roads has talked to some people because they asked some questions that 179 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:10,679 they' told me they have but they don't know so something like 180 00:17:08,199 --> 00:17:16,439 that could be put in the new in in that but anyway I think it's beautiful but to 181 00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:21,120 me it's not worth the cost of costing to do it and I'm not sure what the cost is 182 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:25,079 but it wouldn't be that little considering what it 183 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:29,720 is and the budget well I attended the budget 184 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:34,720 meeting during the day and they were held during the day and I can see that 185 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:39,840 but there's so many people are not available to come during the day so they 186 00:17:36,919 --> 00:17:46,320 wouldn't have been able to come I think it I learned a lot from those meetings I 187 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:51,600 appreciate being here and I think it was well done and 188 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:58,960 I I was happy I could come for it however the budget meeting delivering 189 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,960 it to the community 190 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:06,559 was a waste of everyone's time your time every one of you and me because what did 191 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:10,679 it tell everybody nobody I knew something things because I've been at 192 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:16,039 the meetings but if you weren't here that budget meeting told you why you had 193 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:18,520 a budget now everyone to my knowledge should know why you have to have a 194 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,400 budget but anyway it it told you nothing and it 195 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,280 didn't give you much of a breakdown except a little round circle with some 196 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:32,080 things on it you couldn't ask the question you couldn't make a comment to 197 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:40,080 me it was a waste of time maybe it would be better to have a meeting beforehand 198 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:46,440 so the public could give you some input if you wanted it but maybe you don't I 199 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:51,960 don't know however that's my Spiel and I think I've done my 10 minutes which it 200 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:57,000 says I can have only so there you are I just feel we need more communication I 201 00:18:54,559 --> 00:19:03,559 think even a a public meeting four times a year 202 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:07,960 instead of that newsletter might be better so you could bring up points that 203 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:14,000 are happening around that time or people would have questions that they could 204 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:19,039 answer ask or concerns to me that would be better time 205 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:24,120 spent than than the newslet and I thank you all for 206 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:28,440 listening to me and thank you very much for your presentation we actually gave 207 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:34,520 you five extra minutes so I I knew you were to have to if you but because I I 208 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:40,640 was checking out my thing at home and I said I'm going to run over but if Mr 209 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:44,799 Bros would like to stop me if we can no that's fine I certainly appreciate your 210 00:19:42,679 --> 00:19:50,039 feedback and your comments and I'll turn it over to council if they have any 211 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:53,240 questions yes counc um I was just taking some notes if we were going through if I 212 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:58,320 may I just like to my perspective on a couple of the 213 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:02,960 things that were brought up okay um one of the question questions that you asked 214 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:07,240 was um when do discussions happen since there seem to be a lot of discussion at 215 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:12,000 at the council table and I can understand 216 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:16,720 that I know for myself I we don't we don't have 217 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:20,799 discussions at least not that I'm part of outside of the 218 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:24,280 meetings what happens is when we get our our agenda package which has the 219 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:29,400 information in it with with the reports I pretty much have the 220 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:34,679 information that I need to come to a decision on my own right so there may 221 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:37,600 not be a lot of discussion because the reports have gotten a lot better than 222 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:42,880 they were years ago just you know me or I was on back around 2000 we didn't have 223 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,840 the detail in the reports that we have now so yeah there was a lot more 224 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:52,559 discussion trying to get information from staff at at this 225 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,120 point I feel like I've got the information that I need and and it it 226 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:00,640 may not be the members of the public hear the discussion and and see it but 227 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:04,039 there's there's no back room meetings happening I guess basically what I'm 228 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:10,080 trying to say for if anybody that has that 229 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:18,400 concern um some of the other things um yeah the technology challenges I'm with 230 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:22,080 you 10% on that we we do have issues um I don't like the website 231 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:25,840 myself either I'd like to see something a little bit a little bit different but 232 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:30,360 again that's something that we can you know take back to STA and see if we can 233 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:34,720 find something that would work better um was was there anything in particular 234 00:21:32,679 --> 00:21:41,159 in the in the website that you had difficulty with like I as I said I'm not 235 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:45,440 computer minded but there's always this thing on the front and that's the thing 236 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:52,559 that's saying that road is now open a Black Creek Road and and until you click 237 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:56,000 on that you can't get anywhere else like that's 238 00:21:53,919 --> 00:22:00,640 silly I say silly but 239 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:06,200 if it was something important like you're burning down here or something 240 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:10,120 then maybe it's important but I didn't fig 241 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:13,000 that and and if I could just ask what other question because you mentioned 242 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,480 maybe having something like quarterly public 243 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:20,799 meetings what would you envision happening in those 244 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,480 meetings uh that you would feel that you were 245 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:27,039 getting basically what what you're looking for the other R carers are 246 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:32,400 looking for like what would it look like to you well I don't know know perhaps 247 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:38,600 you could have sheet of paper black and white no colors no nothing exotic just 248 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:44,320 something saying we're working on this road right now and we're going to do 249 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:50,559 this next year we'll try to do these roads um this is what we're doing this 250 00:22:47,679 --> 00:22:56,480 is why are you grading up the sides of the road I know because I've checked it 251 00:22:52,720 --> 00:23:01,320 out but people are saying why are you putting all that gravel in the ditch 252 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:06,480 well like something like that they don't know this new technology if if there's 253 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:11,919 something to be graded out and then it's going to be picked up or it's not going 254 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:17,279 to be picked up or whatever and I heard councelor Rey shanfeld ask if you were 255 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:20,960 now sweeping all the roads because she had no idea obviously that the roads 256 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:26,840 were being swept well that's another thing tell the 257 00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:33,440 people what you're doing things like that um maybe down the road we're having 258 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:38,760 something in August or we're having this or that you know put it down on a sheet 259 00:23:36,679 --> 00:23:42,600 of paper and and then that will give the people something to think about and 260 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:49,880 something to ask about and they might know or you know what about the Bulan 261 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:56,919 pickup or whatever that thing is here I probably don't use it anyway I never had 262 00:23:52,159 --> 00:24:01,720 but I did pick one up was here with AES but you know tell them about it maybe 263 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,760 they're not familiar with it 264 00:24:03,919 --> 00:24:11,679 okay that that gives me a little bit more information thank 265 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:16,039 you I'm I would have to agree like communication is the key to success 266 00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:19,679 right trying to find a suitable communication tool is difficult because 267 00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:24,840 I think it's a multifaceted communication tool right and I do agree 268 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:29,279 that we do have to give the rate payers or customers more of a voice you know 269 00:24:27,399 --> 00:24:32,960 and we can like sometimes agree to disagree but we can also maybe say we 270 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,840 never thought about that because there's stuff that people have thought and told 271 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,799 me that I've never thought about before even in terms of the rep committee some 272 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,799 people have come forward and said did you think about that idea or did you 273 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:47,559 think about that idea or in another Community we did this right so like I 274 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:52,200 think many Minds can sometimes solve a problem and I do agree with the fact 275 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:58,840 that I feel sometimes we're spinning our wheels and not actually getting the the 276 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:02,880 task or the the pill completed right so like moving forward I think 277 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:05,840 you've given us a lot of of good ideas and I think we should be able to 278 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:09,919 complete some of them whether it's like making the owl more usable or trying to 279 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:14,360 figure out how we get it on YouTube quicker or how we get our voice so that 280 00:25:12,679 --> 00:25:18,240 members of the gallery can hear us better than others right and I don't 281 00:25:16,399 --> 00:25:22,080 think those are are difficult things I do realize though that there's a lot of 282 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:25,919 stuff that goes on behind the scenes that even council's not aware of I also 283 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:30,480 agree with the fact that I think there's a lot more stuff downloaded to the 284 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:35,559 municipality than ever was before and like where you talk about having to um 285 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:39,799 write out and fill a piece of paper to get acknowledged the process I have a 286 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:43,480 feeling that the people behind me have to fill out tons more paper than they 287 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,880 ever did before and those things decrease 288 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:51,200 productivity um in terms of the phone calls it seems like many business now do 289 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:55,600 have the answering machine and I I agree with the fact it's so nice to actually 290 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:59,480 talk to somebody on the phone rarely now whenever I call somebody do I actually 291 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:05,840 get somebody on the the phone and that's a frustrating thing and I think 292 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:09,159 like and what I've said before I like when I call the Bank of Montreal in 293 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:13,120 Eganville when I talk to the one person there they say they will call me back 294 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:18,520 within 24 hours even if they don't have an answer for me at least I know that 295 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:21,480 they they heard me so my my name was on the answering machine I don't have to 296 00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:25,559 worry about like when people don't answer you don't know if they a did I 297 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:30,159 not do it right did I get cut off is their mailbox full did something happen 298 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:33,360 with the computer it's just nice to know that somebody heard you and like lots of 299 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:37,679 times you don't have the answer but at least respond to say I'm thinking about 300 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,120 it give me another week I think those things are important you know and I do 301 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:46,240 commend the fact that many people never step up to a table and say what's going 302 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:51,559 on they just go behind the scenes and complain a lot right so I mean if you 303 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:57,880 want change you know you have to have a voice and say it in the right way so 304 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,880 thanks Miss B 305 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,880 yes not Beed 306 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:12,039 anymore I don't mind we know where you live we'll break up the bright lights 307 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:21,799 next no I just want to um express my appreciation for you giving us that 308 00:27:18,919 --> 00:27:25,960 input that's the same thing you too okay well thank you very much for having me 309 00:27:23,399 --> 00:27:30,159 and listening to me and maybe I can talk to you all again than you 310 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:51,600 so moving on we will go to reports and item 7.1 is the noise bylaw 311 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:59,000 extension and I have a motion that Council agrees pursuant to section 5.0 312 00:27:55,360 --> 00:28:03,320 of bylaw 2020-4 of the noise bylaw to extend the time that amplification 313 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:08,240 equipment may be used at an outdoor public or private event on Saturday 314 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:16,000 August 24th 2024 to 1:00 a.m on Sunday August the 315 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:20,120 25th 2024 for property located at 1169 Traymore 316 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Road can I get a move in a second removed by Council buckwell seconded by 317 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:30,559 counc questions or com yes I think it's just a good idea 318 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,720 that people do this because I think it makes um the neighbors know what's going 319 00:28:32,919 --> 00:28:39,200 on and then you'll have less issues down the road so once again it's nice that 320 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:44,799 people come forward because I know probably there's other parties that go 321 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,799 on and you know they don't take the same 322 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:52,880 steps and I would just add that I think it's important as well having this in 323 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:57,559 place and if somebody does phone at least our staff can say well you know 324 00:28:55,799 --> 00:29:01,960 that has been approved by Council for this event and you know they went 325 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:04,559 through the proper channels to get that approval 326 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:14,679 so I do believe that's a good good thing any other 327 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:20,519 comments seeing none Council burnt yes councelor Robinson yes councelor 328 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:25,440 buckwell yes councelor re Shel yes I me yes it's carried thank you 329 00:29:25,670 --> 00:29:28,779 [Music] 330 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:37,360 item 7.2 is the age friendly and inclusive community and I have motion 331 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:41,000 that Council accepts this report as presented and furthered that Council 332 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:46,080 affirms commitment to creating age-friendly and inclusive communities 333 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:51,120 in North Alona wer Forest Township moved by councilor Robinson 334 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,399 seconded by councelor Burnt com answer or 335 00:29:53,480 --> 00:30:00,799 questions C Ricky sh so like I commend Cameron I'm doing do a lot of this stuff 336 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,039 and it's good for our community and and just maybe in the future like I mean 337 00:30:02,679 --> 00:30:07,840 maybe we could do something at snow Drifters just to highlight that facility 338 00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:12,399 also because it's nice to see the golden Lake facility being highlighted and that 339 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:16,080 but you know and then like the music jam I was looking on somebody else's I think 340 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,039 it was white water and the interesting thing about that was it just highlighted 341 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,120 every date there was somebody and who was playing right and when I looked at 342 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,279 that I thought that would be a great opportunity because maybe somebody from 343 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:30,919 there would come to like Melissa Bishop gazebo or something like that especially 344 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:34,399 summertime but you know just as U Mr talked about the fact that it's nice if 345 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,080 you have a list so then you can kind of pick and choose if you're available for 346 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,080 that 347 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:49,880 day tommen where is your community garden and gold L uh is just set the 348 00:30:46,919 --> 00:30:54,760 back um of the where not where the old ball field is but behind the ball dot or 349 00:30:52,120 --> 00:31:01,240 the not the ball dinur the basketball court oh okay yeah so there's right now 350 00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:06,480 staked out um the med night shed has been ordered and it's on its way the 351 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:12,200 raised beds are almost done being built the contractor made a few more supplies 352 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:17,080 so I went to T today so should be done uh soon um and everything is supposed to 353 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:20,000 be done for Monday that's when see things get planted in the garden there's 354 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:24,840 a public event so it's a race to the finish line for 355 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:34,039 Monday thank thank you and I just had a question Cameron so 356 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:40,000 how many how many people do we know how many from the community are involved and 357 00:31:37,159 --> 00:31:46,440 is it golden Lake Community or is it the whole outline area as well so it's the 358 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:51,639 board of the food bank and some of the food bank volunteers and they have quite 359 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:56,480 a large contingent of volunteers um they already had a small bed at the food bank 360 00:31:54,200 --> 00:32:00,639 so it's kind of a and they're not able to use it anymore so it's just an 361 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:06,240 expansion of kind of the existing infrastructure that they have there uh 362 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:10,679 but new people have joined their group since then uh who are interested in 363 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,919 garding specifically so hopefully hopefully people come on Monday we have 364 00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:18,799 had a few comments from people that they'd like to do um evening or weekend 365 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:24,639 things but the current group is not available at that time so we're going to 366 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,639 try to figure it 367 00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:38,120 outg the other dimension 12 boxes raised bed boxes um 3T by 10 ft the medite shed 368 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:45,279 is 10 x 10 and the Gazebo is we're not sure if it's G to be by or 10 369 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:49,279 10 so that that's a pretty good sized Garden area yeah it 370 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:57,200 is let's hope it doesn't get baliz that's all Z yeah 371 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,519 and and in terms of vandalism and stuff and I know beachburg they had um at the 372 00:33:02,679 --> 00:33:08,399 fair some stuff vandalized and they knew who it was and they went to the kids the 373 00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:13,799 other thing too is having the Buy in right so if there was a youth 374 00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:17,279 group uh on the on the First Nations perhaps they would like to you know 375 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:21,120 contribute like when people work towards something they're less likely to want to 376 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:25,200 vandalize it I think you're 100% right and the group has invited a youth group 377 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:29,840 actually who meets at the Community Hall on Fridays to be involved uh and they're 378 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:34,679 going to painting some signs scen signs for it and hopefully that does have a 379 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:40,320 positive effect I also want to put a solar light on the shed and on the Zeebo 380 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:43,639 because I feel like if it's lit like one of the issues is a dark back there 381 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:48,320 that's what things kind of gone back there but if we light it up then it will 382 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,639 hopefully DET that right and like sometimes a community looks after stuff 383 00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:55,399 right so if they feel like there's buy to that they're more likely to say hey 384 00:33:53,840 --> 00:34:00,639 don't do that I know that's what you're doing Smart M well and there's the you 385 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:04,279 know the social uh broken window effect where things are kind of falling apart 386 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:09,879 then it just encourages more so and I think actually since we repainted that 387 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:13,839 building put the murals up repainted the Community Hall I feel like since then 388 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:18,599 there hasn't been any like that I've that I've noticed you 389 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:22,159 notied yeah like it was pretty frequent before that and I think that because 390 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:27,359 it's looking so nice people are are more willing to take better care of things 391 00:34:24,359 --> 00:34:35,359 so that's Robinson and no I was just going to comment that um the library 392 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:40,560 also have a the garden and that's very well utilized and has not had any issues 393 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:56,399 so great any other comments SC N councelor burns yes councel Robinson yes 394 00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:56,399 counc buckwell yes counc yes yes SC 395 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:10,440 and in 7.3 is the uh seniors extended 396 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,320 collaboration and I have a motion of council accepts the report as presented 397 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,880 and further that Council approves extending the collaboration with the 398 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:24,960 Eagan bille and District seniors by working together on a horseshoe 399 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:30,320 CLA moved by Council Robinson seconded by councelor Bur 400 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,320 answer 401 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:37,520 questions answer um Cameron did people approach 402 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:42,040 you from the um seniors extended club about the horseshoe pits yes and like 403 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,079 would they have any like monies available or any people willing to 404 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:51,560 donate like wood for the frames or any of that other stuff like it seems like 405 00:35:48,839 --> 00:35:55,960 in a way it would be nice with the collaboration was also kind of a 406 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:59,680 financial collaboration also I think at this point it's not but they they are 407 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:03,480 really good at getting grants and we have worked together to get some grants 408 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:09,400 in the past so I think it would just be continuation of that relationship and 409 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:13,480 would help for future potential but we wouldn't we yeah but we couldn't get 410 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:18,319 money for something that's already done right right yeah but if we were to put 411 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,240 say like you know at the May 6 meeting we talked about like a pickle ball court 412 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:25,200 or something like that like if people are using the site and it's you know we 413 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:30,079 have people in there that it's going to generate more traction 414 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:34,839 see I always feel better when like it's like a partnership more money now you 415 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,160 said like new shoes do we not did they not have it they must have had 416 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:43,359 horseshoes left I don't I'm not sure I couldn't speak to what's available but 417 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:51,160 the people who did approach veganville seniors um are the former Hors club and 418 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:55,560 they were looking at other locations too so right I mean it's nice having it 419 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,920 there and they did did enjoy it I imagine there's so many in the rec 420 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:05,200 committee but it would be nice if they had some money in the game too I think 421 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:10,520 or being able to like dig up the pits or maybe they know somebody that would 422 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:14,599 donate a load of sand like you know maybe somebody knows where else now then 423 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,880 we could just say thank you for your contribution like I feel more 424 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,960 comfortable going ahead with this if I felt that somebody else was contributing 425 00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:26,839 some money to it counc Robinson there are other 426 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,520 community organizations that would be able to say 427 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:38,599 such as Roary that has a fair bit of money 428 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:42,560 available could we like somehow defer this maybe until like even the next 429 00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:48,440 Recreation meeting and then maybe somebody you know could talk to the 430 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:54,319 rotary and maybe this amount of $22,000 could be reduced to 431 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:59,880 $1,000 maybe yeah I mean that dollar amount isn't ERS sure thing that's just 432 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:03,960 a qu a general idea but um yeah I mean we could defer I think it' be nice if we 433 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:08,200 said we're interested in moving forward with a partnership but we aren't 434 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:15,480 committing any dollars you can say that I would feel better about 435 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:20,359 that counc are you making recommendation to amend to defer to just to defer the 436 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,000 whole thing right because then perhaps we can get more information right you 437 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,560 could talk to them and say is there any and then you know you could approach the 438 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:31,200 rotary we could bring it up other committee meeting and saying would you 439 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:37,000 would we like to contribute to something like that is there a timeline 440 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:41,640 requirement well so the motion is that we work together on abortion Club it 441 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:46,760 doesn't say I mean we can amend it to be more specific to say I don't know that 442 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:51,800 sh exactly maybe you guys have a suggestion for how to word it more um 443 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:56,160 clearly like what Our intention is because you're going to get in contact 444 00:38:53,240 --> 00:39:01,000 with members of the enville seniors right yeah and she want to update 445 00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:04,359 tomorrow so but I mean that's a good update just saying yes of course you 446 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,640 know we're considering the facility and stuff like that we're just looking at a 447 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:15,119 a way to you know reduce the dollar amount yeah I would suggest we defer an 448 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:19,440 least till the next meeting do that give staff enough 449 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:22,640 time yeah I don't think there I think you're right Cameron there's no dollar 450 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:31,160 value in the resolution if you're passing the it's 451 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:36,000 funds at this point is not a budget item Oh no you're right we're just the 452 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:48,440 resolution and then we'll look for money yeah collaborations collaborations with 453 00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:52,520 my hon yeah because this just talks about 454 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,920 standing the collaborations and very well there might 455 00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:00,160 be some if you do do that like some people might donate like I'm just think 456 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:04,480 country Depot has done a lot right with the races and stuff like that maybe they 457 00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:10,079 donate the the wood right that would be a saing you know Ral sell he has our 458 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:15,920 contractor for S gravel maybe he donate and then you know it's just 459 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,920 labor thank 460 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,400 you so any other comments or 461 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:29,760 questions this motion has been moved in second it so I'll call the vote Council 462 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:36,800 burs yes councel Robinson yes councelor buckwell yes councel Rey Shel yes M yes 463 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,800 and that's 464 00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:47,200 carried item 7.4 is the bant municipal land and I have a motion that Council 465 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:51,720 accepts the report as presented and further staff recommend that Council 466 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:57,960 direct to send the information related to the 4.2 acre property located at lot 467 00:40:55,359 --> 00:41:02,200 for concession 2 on wless Street within the village of golden Lake to be 468 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:06,839 included in the land identified for potential development and continue to 469 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:10,760 collaborate with County staff regarding the person uh just before that's move Mr 470 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160 Mayor I think that should be direct staff 471 00:41:17,359 --> 00:41:23,839 too St the information to okay 472 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,119 I think that's a friendly Amendment it's not moved 473 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:52,760 yet so I'll ask for mooving second with with that direction moved by councelor 474 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,760 buckwell seconded by councelor R 475 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,720 Shan comments questions 476 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:05,640 so is there like a master list throughout like you know the county and 477 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:10,720 through the The Province like for people looking for um like pieces of land to 478 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,640 develop is that kind of what this is coming from I don't think there is a 479 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:19,400 master L the county is trying to create a list based on I think what I've been 480 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:24,240 told is they were doing it within the county and then extended it to local 481 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:28,480 municipalities who might have property available okay and then they'd 482 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:32,440 advertised that yeah they've put out an expression of 483 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:36,800 interest to developers and other organizations who are interested in 484 00:42:34,839 --> 00:42:41,319 helping the housing are developing through the housing crisis so it's just 485 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:46,319 a start at saying we have this exclusive property and as I said in the report um 486 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,079 all the planning matters still are in place it's not like we're just putting 487 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,880 it up and they're going to do with it with it whatever they would like it's 488 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:57,480 just we have a piece of property there's potential so we're kind of putting it 489 00:42:55,079 --> 00:43:03,000 into the bunch with the county to say we can look at 490 00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:09,559 this question yeah part of the eastern Ontario Warden office is that their 491 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:16,319 commitment is uh to build 7 492 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:22,079 700 homes or 7,000 homes in seven years 7,000 I think it is and so they're 493 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:28,119 trying to make the uh process more efficient by having the um local 494 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:33,880 municipalities identif ify properties that they would uh be willing to put out 495 00:43:30,839 --> 00:43:39,760 for development it saves the developers a little bit of time trying to search 496 00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:44,800 themselves so the County's taking a lead on it and uh they'll include any of the 497 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:49,240 lower tier municipalities who want to add their vacant property to the 498 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:57,839 list this property has been surveyed in the last couple weeks and it's all 499 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,319 marked out now so we don't we don't have looking for 500 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,319 the 501 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:14,680 lines any other comments see none councelor bur yes 502 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:20,280 councelor Robinson yes councelor bu yes counc yes I yes that's very 503 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:31,800 C item 7.5 is a community complex Board sign and I have a motion that 504 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:36,520 Council accepts the report as presented and further that Council gives direction 505 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:41,119 to repair or remove the wooden sign and direct staff to develop a media policy 506 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:44,000 in regards to Municipal signage and social media 507 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:53,280 content had and move by councelor Robinson seconded by councelor bur 508 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,280 comments 509 00:44:53,400 --> 00:45:00,760 questions Council there should be a policy on the book somewhere regarding 510 00:44:58,359 --> 00:45:05,119 that sign because it's always been tanip policy in the past that it the sign was 511 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:09,200 only used for events related to Community Center rentals unless there 512 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:14,040 was a request made to council and now that's going back a 513 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:18,599 number of years but I don't I don't believe was ever resed so there should 514 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:24,800 still be something on books but it could easily be replaced with something 515 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:28,960 new uh just if we do do a one we just make sure that we revoke anys that are 516 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,960 in 517 00:45:31,319 --> 00:45:37,000 counc sometimes I like that sign and I like when we put something positive on 518 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,800 there especially when it was Co and stuff like that but I realized too when 519 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,599 you're taking the letters off and the numbers off and putting them on that's a 520 00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:49,160 very time consuming job and and for paying our Public Works people or or 521 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:55,520 Cameron whoever like is that a wise use of our dollar per hour resources right I 522 00:45:52,319 --> 00:46:00,440 also realized that the whatever that's electronic sign that's put on side of 523 00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:03,760 the fire hall to me doesn't get a lot of bang for our buck either and that I 524 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:08,079 don't think a lot of people see it I also realized when we bought that we 525 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:12,440 were going to replace that and stick it where the old wooden one was but because 526 00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:16,400 of like being too close and M and all that other stuff we couldn't so we stuck 527 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:21,160 it there so we're back to this problem of how do we communicate to people in 528 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:26,319 our area about stuff going on right and also wise use of our dollar resources 529 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:30,319 for hour you know you don't see many signs like that 530 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,960 anymore you know and so like if we have to you know the cost of putting the 531 00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:39,880 stuff up in there and the cost of like fixing it again is that really good 532 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,880 value for the money that we 533 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:48,319 have personally and it's it's a financial outlay I'd like 534 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:54,000 to look into if we can replace that sign with a two side electronic one which was 535 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:58,640 the original plan because again it's very easily easily done by computer 536 00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:03,640 remotely so it doesn't require somebody going out and having to you know pick 537 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:07,400 off letters everything else maintain it it would be a matter of essentially of 538 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:10,359 running electricity to it because it's an existing sign there really shouldn't 539 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:16,680 be an issue with MTO if we're not changing its its size or shape unless a 540 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:22,319 something with that because it is close to the intersection and it is within you 541 00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:27,040 know 100 of the load type thing I can speak to that you probably 542 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:30,280 are lucky at this point because you probably supposed to pay an annual fee 543 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:36,040 to the mq I I I think it's small enough for the 544 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:42,240 square footage of the sign there every sign has a b a sign that dictates the 545 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:47,280 cost so from this side to this side is so much so I'm not sure if they aware 546 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:51,640 that you even have the sign there because I I think they probably thought 547 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:55,960 the electric sign was going to remove that sign so and from what I understand 548 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,760 is the one that was put on the building was allowed to because because it was 549 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:07,280 put on the building and not on M Property so there are setbacks for signs 550 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:11,000 so that's a I really think when we had we bought that sign because we got a 551 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:15,040 grant for that for that Main Street grant that that's what we're going to do 552 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:19,599 and I'm almost absolutely sure that's why we put them both one here and one 553 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:24,240 there because we couldn't put it there again because well MTO we were waiting 554 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:29,000 for MTO to give us a response on whether or not we could do it yeah I'm pretty 555 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:34,280 sure Mr told us that we couldn't do it like I'm I'm almost positive of that one 556 00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:39,599 and but I mean it's one of those things that you know these two signs here I 557 00:48:37,319 --> 00:48:39,599 think are 558 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:49,040 underutilized Council Robinson I okay I think we're getting conflicting um 559 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:55,000 remarks when it came to the sign because originally as counselor like shanfeld 560 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:59,720 had indicated that sign that's on the building was supposed to 561 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:05,160 and we're told it's too bright it's too distracting blah blah blah now are we 562 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,920 going to be able to put anything up there if the the guidelines are still 563 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:14,680 the same you know what I mean like is if we 564 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:20,319 put an electronic sign there there must be some rules about lighting and 565 00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:24,079 background Etc in order to do something like 566 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:28,839 that because when we were told originally was because it was too 567 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,480 distracting to have the sign in the spot that we wanted 568 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:39,200 it that's what yeah I don't recall we that we ever got anything official from 569 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:46,240 MTO on that so maybe that's something to consider is 570 00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:51,520 let's reach out that's reach out to MTO and electronic one here and and get a 571 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:56,200 firm answer and what would it cost exactly or if we can't put it there can 572 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:58,640 we put it at the Public Works Garage in Golden Way 573 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,760 and and again a two-sided one so that it could be seen properly because basically 574 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:08,280 we had a two-sided sign we split it up into two to put one here and one there 575 00:50:06,359 --> 00:50:11,480 to get some utility out of them that might be an even better 576 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:19,440 option def address our issue with the existing 577 00:50:16,839 --> 00:50:25,720 side that's the direction staff is looking for what do we do the existing 578 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:30,920 sign it's uh it's well I ask Adrian it's in a state of there where it's probably 579 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:35,799 should come down I'm going to be brutally honest I don't even know that I 580 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:41,079 no that sign before I haven't so when we discussed 581 00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:45,720 this last week I said well I was going to take a peek at it but I haven't yet 582 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:52,040 but from what I understand it it does need some repair and some more that and 583 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,040 most of the pieces are missing 584 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:59,319 so I I I believe that you you probably won't get approval for a electronic sign 585 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:03,960 at that location I have to agree with that or 586 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:10,880 any other sign for that matter right so I mean once you removed something you're 587 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:15,839 probably going remove it forever yeah especially I think in that there's 588 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:20,960 so many concerns about absents in that corner it is distracted like when you 589 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:24,760 are turning in that general area there's a lot going 590 00:51:22,359 --> 00:51:28,559 on just keeping your eyes on the RO is a fulltime Val to 591 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,960 SCI I 592 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:42,040 guess think 593 00:51:38,359 --> 00:51:46,160 the in on the premise of communication having something there 594 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:52,960 does add value however the concern which everyone 595 00:51:49,960 --> 00:52:00,599 has is that anything electronic is going to be distracting now can you have an 596 00:51:56,839 --> 00:52:04,359 electronic sign that is not blaring at you I think that's the 597 00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:12,559 question because you can adjust the lighting on the CCH size and everything 598 00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:16,920 else so that it's not so intense exactly you know the portable ones we 599 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:20,839 had here before and they're on Wheels yeah are there different requirements 600 00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:24,760 for them like for instance if there wasn't I'd take down that one I'd stick 601 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:29,240 a wheelie one there but still a permit is required um 602 00:52:27,319 --> 00:52:34,839 but it's a temporary permit because it's on Wheels you can have it there for a 603 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:39,280 week or 14 days or something and then you must remove it because sometimes I 604 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:42,920 think um when I see something new then that draws my attention to it if it's 605 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:47,359 been there forever then I kind of zone out on it right and so like something 606 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,480 like that where we could maybe rent it and if it wasn't that expensive maybe 607 00:52:48,799 --> 00:52:55,240 look at purchasing one where we could have it like in the summer till like the 608 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,440 fall when all most of the activities are going on I don't know 609 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:06,839 but I I agree once we take it down I just think that AA want to really put 610 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,839 more money into something that you 611 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:17,200 know so am I hearing correctly that council's direction to staff will be to 612 00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:21,799 remove the existing sign could we wait till the summer 613 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:27,079 something well the other issue is that we that the plastic pieces are really 614 00:53:24,799 --> 00:53:31,599 brittle and most of them are brok so we have no numbers at this point and very 615 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:37,520 few letters so when the public wants to put information on there it's very 616 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,520 difficult because could be P like 617 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:47,880 Scrabble I don't know yeah see those are very old yeah right and they the element 618 00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:52,559 and the elements they took a lot of UV like before people worried about like so 619 00:53:49,319 --> 00:53:56,559 the plastic wasn't designed for it um maybe it maybe a suggestion if reach 620 00:53:55,079 --> 00:54:00,359 out to one of the local sign people people that we used in the past to see 621 00:53:58,799 --> 00:54:04,079 if they can what the cost would be to make us some new numbers I hate because 622 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,400 again it is existing and like you said once you take it down it's gone you're 623 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:12,119 not going to get to put something back so if we want to have something 624 00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:17,720 there I I would be opposed to take that down at this 625 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:23,160 point so if we leave it then we have to uh we have to either update our policy 626 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:29,760 or create a new one because it would only be correctly if I'm wrong but uh 627 00:54:27,799 --> 00:54:34,079 something we could use three seasons because in the winter unless somebody 628 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:40,040 cleans all this more and the bottom you can up there to put the letters on and 629 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:44,280 well you don't have to climb it's not it's not that high you can actually put 630 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:49,280 them on while standing you might need a steps tool for the top row but I don't 631 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:55,319 even think that um but yeah it would be walking through the snow to get to 632 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,119 it again the thing is like say once it's gone it's gone then you don't have the 633 00:54:56,799 --> 00:55:01,799 option anymore even if we deferred with some 634 00:55:00,359 --> 00:55:07,760 with some direction the staff to get a price on replacement 635 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:12,680 lettering that's not a bad idea so council is okay to defer her 636 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:23,000 yes and could we also find out about an electronic sign there something was 637 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:27,119 possible to me so you want like an updated Report with information on the 638 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:31,559 electronic side from the MTO pricing for new letters and are you interested at 639 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,680 all in the option of putting a permanent like if we're even allowed we have to 640 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:39,520 ask MTO but like a welcome to Gold l or something permanent no I don't think so 641 00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:42,440 because yet it is a busy intersection yeah people aren't even going to notice 642 00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:46,079 it if there's something there that changes from time to time that it might 643 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:50,599 catch their eye then I can see a value to that but but just having something 644 00:55:48,359 --> 00:55:54,039 like that for the sake of having that I don't see the value in that 645 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:59,440 [Music] no so it's deferred and direct is to 646 00:55:56,839 --> 00:56:10,039 bring back more information Council Burns yes councel Robinson yes counc 647 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:10,039 Buck yes counc ra yes yes it's car thank 648 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:21,960 you item 7.6 is the ministry for seniors and accessibility inclusive community 649 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:25,559 Grant and I have a motion that the committee accepts that the council 650 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:30,720 accepts the report as presented and further that Council authorizes staff to 651 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:36,079 complete the application for inclusive community Grant and if successful it 652 00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:43,280 will be used for the snow Drifter facility moved by councelor buckwold 653 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:43,280 seconded by Council Robinson questions 654 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:50,440 comments so if we were successful at attaining the 655 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:59,400 $60,000 but let's just say then when we really put out the um RFP or whatever we 656 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:03,079 call it and it comes in at like $90,000 can we just get back that 657 00:57:01,319 --> 00:57:10,119 $660,000 so the uh doors we've already put in a 658 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:14,440 door at bom lake so we know that we can get we know what the base price for that 659 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:20,119 lease that job is um and for the aluminum ramp we we can just order that 660 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:25,200 and is that about so that price of $122,000 is fairly accurate that price 661 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:29,839 is accurate the only variable is the building of the 662 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:33,599 decking and how you know how elaborate we can get with that will depend on what 663 00:57:31,799 --> 00:57:41,000 price we get so you feel fairly confident that 664 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:45,039 you know we could do that for $60,000 yeah but like I said the variability is 665 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:49,079 going to be deing 666 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:55,280 yeah at the very least even updating ramp the ramp death Rel leads be updated 667 00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:58,799 it's a safety issue and the and the two the two doors that are are difficult to 668 00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:04,000 open so they need to replace with some door so it' be nice if they were to find 669 00:58:01,319 --> 00:58:04,000 door like it 670 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:13,680 for any other comments or questions I agree with what you're 671 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:20,559 saying Cameron if if we're talking about inclusive community and especially for 672 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:26,790 uh aging population we want to make sure whatever we put in is current with 673 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:30,150 today's uh regulations foress [Music] 674 00:58:31,319 --> 00:58:40,160 accessibility any other questions see none Council burn yes 675 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:46,880 Council Robinson yes Council buckwell yes Council yes yes that's thank 676 00:58:54,520 --> 00:59:03,359 you 7 point seven is uh the results of the special council meeting at snowdor 677 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:08,480 facility and I have a motion that Council accepts to report his 678 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:16,319 information moved by councelor bur seconded by C 679 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,319 CH questions or 680 00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:26,839 comments see sorry 681 00:59:24,119 --> 00:59:30,240 um it's it's fine to accept information but we held a meeting to develop a plan 682 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,720 as to what we're going to do with the property I think we need to have an 683 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:39,160 action plan for this information as opposed to just accepting it and putting 684 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,160 on 685 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:46,119 shelf because otherwise there was no point in having the Mee so the advisory 686 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:49,400 committee has made a working group specifically focused on snow Drifter 687 00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:52,920 they've had one meeting so far they're going to have another one next week and 688 00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:55,880 they are going to present some recommendations to the advisory 689 00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:58,039 committee and the advisory committee is going 690 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:07,680 so my my suggest Mr and let's do the tick box and submit this to the advisor 691 01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:11,760 committee as well as long as it's not just going to sit somewhere and be lost 692 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:15,000 because that was if not a waste of a meeting if we're not going to do 693 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:15,000 anything with the 694 01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:19,480 information do we need a new 695 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:31,480 motion motion did did the report not indicate that we 696 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:38,359 were sending it to the didn't check off the boss oh sorry yeah they were there 697 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:43,880 so and I have S these graphs them so this second paragraph um members of the 698 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,880 snow Drifter facility working group of the advisory committee to council 699 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:51,520 committee attended the meeting and are preparing a report to Lear to The 700 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,520 Advisory to council 701 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:58,760 committee okay that's fine sorry about we'll use the 702 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,400 Box because I'm not part of the advisory committee and there was lots of good 703 01:01:03,319 --> 01:01:08,599 discussion going on so like I had one thought and like it looked like people 704 01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:13,319 really feel strongly about keeping the snow drifter's name which is great um 705 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:17,119 and then I was thinking too if we ever developed a sign just for Branding again 706 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,680 where you'd have the Four Seasons so so something nearly like a coat of arms 707 01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:24,280 where you know the spring you'd have these activities and and that it's just 708 01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:28,640 like the people more people that know they can do more things at that facility 709 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,640 the 710 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,960 better any other 711 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:52,319 comments see none counc Burns yes councelor Robinson yes councelor buw yes 712 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:52,319 coun yes any yes very 713 01:01:54,860 --> 01:02:01,599 [Music] item 7.8 is uh regarding intimate 714 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:05,720 partner violence and I have a motion that Council accepts the report as 715 01:02:03,319 --> 01:02:10,839 presented and further that staff create the proposed policies to address 716 01:02:08,359 --> 01:02:14,240 intimate partner violence in the township for Council 717 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:27,160 approval can I get a mo in a second move by councel re Shel seconded by can 718 01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:27,160 buold questions comments 719 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:36,240 I think it it would be a great um thing to have for sure because I mean it's a 720 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:39,520 terrible thing it's like once again it goes back to like how do we communicate 721 01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:43,079 this to a rate payers that there are safe spaces and this could be a plan if 722 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:46,240 you you felt you needed to talk to somebody so I think that's really 723 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:49,799 important which gets back to like do we have a town hall do we have meetings you 724 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:54,240 know four times a year and do that because I think that's important the 725 01:02:51,359 --> 01:02:57,920 other thing I'd like to see is those contact numbers like R County victim 726 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:00,920 Services bred at mccan house on our website that should be a number that 727 01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:04,960 should be easily found when you're in a crisis situation you're not thinking 728 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:09,079 calm and clearly but it would be nice if I could go there and I'd find those 729 01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:14,039 numbers and I think that's just really important and like those numbers should 730 01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:17,799 be in different parts of our in the main office and every in all our buildings 731 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:21,839 and including if we could get some businesses that would have it even with 732 01:03:19,319 --> 01:03:25,400 a tear off right because if I'm getting you know something's going on in my 733 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:29,039 relationship but I go to the grocery store see a poster with a tear off and 734 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,160 I'm going to tear it off right or if I go to Cottage cup or if I go to the gas 735 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:35,000 station I'm going to tear it off right because you don't want to keep a secret 736 01:03:33,799 --> 01:03:39,920 you don't want your partner to think you're you're doing something right but 737 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:43,039 you also need those things to be able to go on the next 738 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:51,440 step I think this is a great idea because if I remember correct well I 739 01:03:49,799 --> 01:03:55,240 don't don't even want to try and remember but there was something like 740 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,760 and maybe Cameron you know the exact number 741 01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:06,000 40 or 50 recommendations that came out of that uh inquiry I don't know exactly 742 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:13,680 sory I can't remember the exact number but there were quite a few and uh this 743 01:04:09,319 --> 01:04:18,160 is just I think a great opportunity to start moving in a Direction Where We can 744 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:21,279 provide a little more support for somebody who's going through a 745 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:25,240 challenging situation and I like your idea of 746 01:04:23,359 --> 01:04:30,119 sharing it with businesses I mean you certainly have to have that conversation 747 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:35,480 whether they would want to post that I don't know if there'd be an objection 748 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:38,960 but Council but I I I think on that sort of 749 01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:42,680 thing I I understand the desire of council to to support that but I think 750 01:04:41,359 --> 01:04:47,520 that would be best left to the organizations like Bernette mccan and 751 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:51,279 victim services so that it's information coming from One 752 01:04:48,839 --> 01:04:57,920 Source um and that they know exactly what is out there um like the fact that 753 01:04:54,799 --> 01:05:02,640 we're going to buy a safe space that's not something you want to advertise 754 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:06,640 that's that's that's something that the agencies need to know that they can 755 01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:11,359 access because if not a candidate Feats the purpose of it being a quiet place 756 01:05:09,319 --> 01:05:16,160 through them to go but what I what I was looking for is just having the numbers 757 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:20,319 posted not necessarily what we're doing oh oh absolutely and again and I'm sure 758 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:24,440 that ber mcken and VI Services would be able to provide that material for us as 759 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:28,760 opposed to generating something of our own it's much better to let the the 760 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:32,440 experts provide the materials and then we can after the source for no and 761 01:05:30,279 --> 01:05:36,599 that's what I meant but they have to you know people that are are seeking help 762 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:41,920 need to know where to go for help and I'm not saying and they need telephone 763 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:45,160 numbers and they need contacts right yes I just want to say there were also other 764 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,279 recommendations but I don't feel that we were ready to implement some of the 765 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:52,200 other ones like we just don't have the resources these ones were ones I thought 766 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:55,880 we could do right away and I will continue to meet with them and just see 767 01:05:54,200 --> 01:06:00,039 like where we're at but some of the other ones involved training or at the 768 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:04,559 community safety and well-being days where we have um fire safety stuff 769 01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:07,720 having someone from the services come and be present and just offer 770 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:13,119 information stuff like that like there's other things we could kind of move into 771 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:17,720 doing but this was just easy to you know kind of move B with something Pastor 772 01:06:15,799 --> 01:06:25,799 Robinson I'm just curious some of the other municipalities have like a 511 773 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:31,559 number that um the person can it's very easy to remember and once they get into 774 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:36,760 that number they're directed to wherever they may need that help I'm tering a 211 775 01:06:34,359 --> 01:06:43,880 yes can can provide you with the resources in the provs I think promoting 776 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:49,880 that as a one way of getting in would be much more beneficial than yes having the 777 01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:56,079 numbers posted in multiple places but if we can start publicizing the 211 as an 778 01:06:54,079 --> 01:07:02,119 emergency access besides an information access 779 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:07,000 it's information you know because most times you don't even know where to 780 01:07:04,279 --> 01:07:12,839 start well I agree with councilor meld I think Bernard McAn has already some of 781 01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:20,079 those printed uh information sheets that they can make available and as you say 782 01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:20,079 they put in communitys 783 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:26,599 absolutely this is a step in the right direction 784 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:40,440 comments none counc bur yes counc Robinson yes counc B yes coun yes yes 785 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,440 that's carried thank 786 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:53,920 you item 7.9 is the building fees report and I have motion that Council accepts 787 01:07:51,640 --> 01:08:00,200 the report as presented move by buckwell seconded by 788 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,359 answer answer 789 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:12,440 questions do we have um a designated reserve for building 790 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:22,319 inspection not excuse me not at this time but we will 791 01:08:18,759 --> 01:08:29,560 be looking at all of the RS and I guess when you look to the appendix a I guess 792 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:33,080 I was just concerned about um and I I guess we'll know more what's going on 793 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:40,440 this year but in 2022 the uh building per permit fees 794 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:46,640 versus 2023 building perit fees and then we looked at um salaries and 795 01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:46,640 wages you 796 01:08:47,679 --> 01:08:53,400 know I mean part of the reason we went with a full-time CBO 797 01:08:53,719 --> 01:09:00,640 was I guess part of the reason we had a part-time CVO before shared with BV was 798 01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:04,440 to cut costs right or to share costs that's a better we well I guess to cut 799 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:10,520 cut salary costs and then when you look at it now like $66,000 $24,000 that's a 800 01:09:08,679 --> 01:09:13,920 big increase and then if you look what we brought in 801 01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:20,560 that's I'm just saying it's something to consider because there's only so much 802 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,560 money out 803 01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:28,040 there yeah um I I hear what you're saying but I think if if you were to 804 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:32,759 reach out to our neighbor I think you would find that they don't have the time 805 01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:32,759 to split a 806 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:39,440 position to be able to be able to split a a 807 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:45,480 CBO um unless you're unless you're going to hire them to work underneath Chief 808 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:49,880 Building official assistant building officials if you can find them and it's 809 01:09:48,440 --> 01:09:52,520 not by the time you do that you're not going to have a huge 810 01:09:52,600 --> 01:10:02,719 savings and and it did work that well for us in the past and just add to that 811 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:09,040 in a lot of the smaller municipalities the CBO wears more than one hat in a lot 812 01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:16,400 of cases they're also bylaw and uh there could be fire pre 813 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:21,199 fire prevention fire chief yeah so uh I don't know who you would find 814 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:25,880 somebody that you could share and and again then the challenge becomes how can 815 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:32,360 you ensure that you're equally getting the amount of time that you 816 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:36,360 need and with the uh I know our chief building official right now is very very 817 01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:47,120 busy and it is time turn this Sky she probably is full-time working on 818 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:52,600 building right now well I think the other thing that we should remember is 819 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:58,679 that we did um the permit fee bylaw and we knew that our rates were lower than 820 01:10:54,960 --> 01:11:03,080 anyone a in County right so the that fee permit that we brought in last year was 821 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:06,960 deflated we said the that so didn't we did make some effort to get those 822 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:13,000 numbers up a little bit and I know that the legislative 823 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:19,679 changes related to CBO have put that position in demand and there is no um 824 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:25,760 there's really not many cbos around me we grew our own R and our time been head 825 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,760 hunt 826 01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:39,520 any other comments see none Council B yes Council 827 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:44,000 Robinson yes Council Buck yes counc re yes yes very thank 828 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:56,639 you item 7.10 is the U Community Grant request I have a motion of council Wes 829 01:11:55,320 --> 01:12:01,840 the daily rental fee for the goldome night call for the gold night excuse me 830 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:07,760 48 sheep Club to host a one day fundraising event in 831 01:12:04,719 --> 01:12:15,040 June move by coun buckwell seconded by coun burn questions or 832 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:21,040 comments that's have they used up their four days or their four times that was 833 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:27,440 the last J is for winter meetings right and so they use those more up so I I 834 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:31,199 mean I see the value of 4 and um I have been a leader along with the rest of my 835 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:37,239 family and lots of times we just went to a person's place when we were doing 836 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:42,480 meetings or fundraising I see why they'd like to have it at Golden 837 01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:46,360 Lake but I mean we already did contribute and give them something 838 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:51,159 already I mean maybe a reduced rental fee but 839 01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:57,040 they're they say they're using it for fundraising so maybe some of the funds 840 01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:57,040 have to go towards a rental 841 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:13,679 I just ask what is the daily rle [Music] 842 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:13,679 feet 150 to 1550 yes 843 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:21,679 okay and they're going to be doing painting burn Hills 844 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:35,639 I mean and they do say it's a fundraiser so they're expecting people to donate 845 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:41,800 money I mean to me it's just we still have to have somebody to ensure that 846 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,800 it's clean right and to lock and 847 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:53,760 unlock so we'd be donating to their fundraiser we have 848 01:13:50,560 --> 01:14:00,000 already Robinson I would um suest that we do it at a reduce rate 849 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,000 not for 850 01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,840 free would you suggest 50% 851 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,880 yes any other 852 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:25,360 comments do we have to change that I think we do 853 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:38,800 we would rental fee of $75 854 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,560 so I'll the 855 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:44,840 so the resolution now reads that Council provides a reduced rental fee for the 856 01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:49,840 day to $75 for the golden KN call for the golden KN for sheep Club to host a 857 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:55,280 one- day fundraising event in June so councilor buckel and councelor B 858 01:15:53,320 --> 01:16:02,120 the movers and seconders are you okay with the revised resolution 859 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:08,159 yes any other comments see none councelor burn yes 860 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:15,320 councelor Robinson yes councelor buckwell yes councelor Rey scheld yes I 861 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,320 yes 862 01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:27,320 carried item 7.11 is in regards to public Communications and I have a mo 863 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:31,639 that Council accepts the public Council communication processes report is 864 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:36,560 presented and that Council Vision to promote a procedure provide a report on 865 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:41,960 the preferred process they desire to implement to staff by Tuesday May 28th 866 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:46,960 to be included for discussion at the June 4th 2024 regular council 867 01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:53,880 meeting mov by Council buckwell second by Council alry 868 01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:01,880 questions or comments so Laura you reached out to 869 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:09,520 like all the municipalities in arford county and then they just came back 870 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:14,239 that always done did they see if any of them were 871 01:17:12,639 --> 01:17:18,719 better than others or did they give you a comment on that I just just that one 872 01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:25,440 yeah okay so I did speak to a number of the 873 01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:32,440 other Mayors there's only two other um councils in all of rental P that 874 01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:38,280 actually do a question period where there's dialogue back and 875 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:43,880 forth White Water Council and arm prior Council they allow public comments but 876 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:47,639 there's no interact there's no dialogue with Council they can provide their 877 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:52,199 comments at the end of the meeting and it's recorded in the 878 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:57,960 minutes the only two that provide a questing period are were 879 01:17:54,920 --> 01:18:02,920 admist Brumley and McNab brayon admaston Brumley and speaking to the mayor there 880 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:07,840 he said there's very very few times where they even get somebody showing up 881 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:13,239 that wants to ask a question the mayor from McNab braide said don't use our 882 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:16,360 municipality as an example on how to property run a meeting 883 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:24,920 so yeah Council BR I I know because we did have this 884 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:28,639 opportunity backround and I hate to say this at the turn of the century or the 885 01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:33,960 turn of the Millennium uh when we did have that at the end of the meeting and 886 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:37,199 we had very few issues with it I I know there's some concern with things that 887 01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:42,560 have gone on in the last decade or decade and a bit but 888 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:47,280 um I think that just comes down to if there are issues 889 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:51,480 then the chair just maintains order as as far as out of the the 890 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:55,440 question period again if if it's appropriate and relevant with with some 891 01:18:53,719 --> 01:19:00,199 guidelines that I'm the members of council will suggest staff in written 892 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:05,400 reports prior to the meeting I don't have an issue that being 893 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:10,120 question period by so when you want a report do you want 894 01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:13,960 like everything or just like a the general this is a way do you want like 895 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:20,440 all the rules and procedures and anything I think the vision that you 896 01:19:16,679 --> 01:19:23,600 have and then the rules need to be with with all 897 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,920 any other 898 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:39,159 comments I certainly I'm not in support of the question periods and I think it's 899 01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:45,520 people go all the way back to the intent of the mpal act that Council meetings 900 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:52,800 are public means that they're available for the public to observe and listen 901 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:59,360 without comment I certainly don't have a problem with doing some Town Hall 902 01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:09,000 meetings because I think then it's not part of the regular agenda you can have 903 01:20:02,199 --> 01:20:09,000 a more flexible in interaction with your 904 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:19,520 residents that's that's my comments I I think the council meetings 905 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:24,280 are really the the business of council and the decisions we 906 01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:29,840 made are something that could be discussed in a town hall meeting if you 907 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:33,840 do it on a quarterly or or every four month 908 01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:36,239 basis but you're not under to deal with it every 909 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:53,080 meeting any other comments see none councelor burs yes 910 01:20:49,639 --> 01:20:58,480 counc Robinson yes counc buckwell yes counc re yes 911 01:20:55,719 --> 01:20:58,480 yes 912 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:13,080 very item 712 is the tax collection policy and I have a motion to council 913 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:17,520 accepts the report and passes the tax policy and further that any former 914 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:22,360 bylaws pertaining to this matter are hereby 915 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:27,320 resed moved by councelor Robinson seconded by councelor buckell 916 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:33,440 comments questions coun for something I like the 917 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:37,679 general followup methods I like like that those instructions or those 918 01:21:35,199 --> 01:21:41,199 procedures do we know how much money it that um we do have in our 919 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,320 years 920 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:59,159 okay I like this and I certainly supportive because I think it's 921 01:21:56,199 --> 01:22:05,840 important to have a a policy that's clear so for staff if there are 922 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:13,000 questions um everybody is getting the same message as far as the process that 923 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:17,440 we have in place and intend to follow counc BR um I just have one question I 924 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:24,760 think it just might be an admission by staff uh we don't accept 925 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:29,239 cash for tax payments is it to indicate that we don't is that 926 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:33,000 your question sorry well uh section seven accepted payment 927 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:38,040 methods uh we accept telephone or Internet banking checks uh payments at 928 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:41,560 financial institutions payments by mortgage company payments Ted in US 929 01:22:40,239 --> 01:22:47,239 funds will be accepted at the exchange rate and third party checks will not be 930 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,239 accepted nothing saying we accept cash 931 01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:58,719 okay so St yeah I'm sorry about that thank 932 01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:10,320 you any other 933 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:19,480 comments see none and I'll call the vote on the resolution as 934 01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:27,639 amended councelor Bert yes counc Robinson yes councilor B yes counc yes 935 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,639 yes 936 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:37,440 scary I didn't do [Music] 937 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:37,440 anything I but 938 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:08,760 so we're at item 9.1 which is 939 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:16,199 correspondence and it's non-action and I have a motion that correspondence items 940 01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:22,520 9.1.1 to 9.1.2 be accepted as information moved by cancer buckwold 941 01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:22,520 seconded by Cher BT 942 01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:36,280 counc BS yes counc Robinson yes counc Bal yes counc Sho yes yes thanks car 943 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,280 thank 944 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:48,800 you item 9.3 is the Chio child safety Guide magazine and I have motion of 945 01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:54,760 council approves of advertising in the Chio children's safety guide that has 946 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:58,679 replaced the tiny Hearts magazine at the same rate of 295,000 947 01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:10,920 $295 plus HSC for a business card size ad moved by councelor buckwell second 948 01:25:08,159 --> 01:25:14,639 advised councelor Robinson call answer 949 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:26,080 questions seeing none Council bur yes counc Robinson yes counc B 950 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:29,199 yes no I me yes that's 951 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:55,199 car so we're at B Lin we don't add B Lin are there any matters of 952 01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:59,760 urgency any notice of motion we've done our reports from committees 953 01:25:57,480 --> 01:26:05,600 so upcoming meetings and unfinished business so our next 954 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:13,820 advisory um to council committee meeting is May the 29th at 7 pm our next regular 955 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:19,280 council meeting are June the 4th 214 at [Music] 956 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:26,239 7M and at this point I would suggest we take a five minute pause before we go 957 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:26,239 into close Act 958 01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:38,000 closed items involve personal matters better identif 959 01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:41,320 individual three lab relations employe negotiations and one 960 01:26:44,679 --> 01:26:56,199 information the resolution is that Council will not provide any no or and 961 01:26:52,440 --> 01:27:01,840 any opinions until or should an opinion one or the other 962 01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:06,400 yeah Council will not provide an opinion until more information is provided by 963 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:12,400 the other level of governments moover in a second move by Council Buck seconded 964 01:27:08,679 --> 01:27:20,440 by Council birs Council BS yes Council Robinson yes councel bwolf yes counc r 965 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:20,440 on yes that's carried 966 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:31,679 and then in regards to Human Resources I have motion that Council give staff 967 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:36,119 direction to be agreed upon recommendations within the staff report 968 01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:40,080 and further the council direct staff post the CAO click position and create a 969 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:44,440 hiring committee that includes a number of staff from the county neighboring 970 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:50,000 municipality and one member of council or do we want to put all members of 971 01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:55,440 council I would um do you want to just C that 972 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:59,480 committee yeah sure go forward we'll figure 973 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:07,239 out just after Committee 974 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,760 just to one member of 975 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:21,840 council and further that expenditures encourage for professional Financial 976 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:26,679 advice and recruitment Support over and above the expenditures within the 205 24 977 01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:31,239 budget will be financed from reserves prior to the end of 978 01:28:28,679 --> 01:28:35,760 year because Jen is going to find us all kinds of 979 01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,760 money no 980 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,760 yet by by 981 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:54,080 coun councel B yes councel Robinson yes counc Buck 982 01:28:48,719 --> 01:28:59,360 yes yes yes that's carried bylaw 202 4-29 being a bylaw to confirm the 983 01:28:56,440 --> 01:29:04,360 proceedings of council for May 21st 2024 be gred first and second time this 21st 984 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:12,239 day of May 2024 moved by Council Robinson seconded by councel R 30 yeah 985 01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:18,440 is it that should be 30 it should be 30 okay I did up too fast oh 20 2430 986 01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:27,840 okay you have the move in second I don't but I think Maria and me 987 01:29:25,239 --> 01:29:27,840 Maria 988 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:37,840 and he read a third time in fing pass this 24 21st day of May 2024 Council 989 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:42,119 burs yes Council Robinson yes councel buckwell yes counc Shel yes and yes 990 01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:47,760 that's carries and then I have a motion that 991 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:56,040 this May 21st 2024 regular meeting of council adjourns at 10:23 p.m move 992 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:56,040 councelor Robinson second advice 993 01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:05,440 yes yes cckw yes coun yep