[0:09] good evening everybody I would like to
call this regular council meeting to
[0:13] order on May the 21st 2024 at 7
p.m. we will stay seated for a moment of
[0:20] Silent reflection
[0:38] thank you very much as we gather this
evening I would like to acknowledge on
[0:42] behalf of council and our community that
we are meeting on the traditional
[0:46] territory of the adonan people we would
like to thank the adonan people and
[0:50] express our respect and support for
their Rich history and we are extremely
[0:54] grateful for their many and continued
displays of friendship we also thank all
[0:59] the generations of people who have taken
care of this land for thousands of
[1:06] years on behalf of council and myself I
want to apologize to the residents who
[1:11] attended our May 7th 2024 meeting for
failing to open the doors for the public
[1:15] when the council came out of our closed
meeting we'll make every effort to
[1:19] ensure this does not happen again Public
Works staff have been preparing our
[1:25] Public Works parks and washrooms for the
May 18th 2024 opening the Victoria Day
[1:30] long weekend brings many of our seasonal
residents and visitors to our
[1:33] communities Extra Care and attention is
required on our road sites and rivers
[1:38] with this increase in traffic with the
rainfall we have received in the past
[1:42] few weeks most of our Lakes have
returned to near normal levels on Sunday
[1:47] May 19th 2024 the goldm Property Owners
Association held their annual Fish Fry
[1:53] at the Red Pine camp on Island View
Drive from 12:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. new
[1:58] this year was live music a beer tent and
a fish Derby for the children and from
[2:04] speaking to councelor Burnt who attended
he said approximately 250 people were in
[2:09] attendance which is good
news on Monday May 27th 2024 MP John
[2:16] yakabuski hosting a rental County day at
Queens Park Wan Nemo CAO K Kelly senior
[2:22] leadership staff and committee
chairpersons will have an opportunity to
[2:26] meet with various provincial Ministries
and finally on May the 11th 2024 I
[2:32] attended father Ken O'Brien's retirement
from the priesthood after 50 years of
[2:36] dedicated service father Ken served many
of the real community churches in R
[2:47] County and then I have a motion that May
21st 2024 mayor's address be accepted as
[2:52] presented mooved by councelor Burn
seconded by councelor
[2:58] buckhalt comments questions
seeing none councelor bur yes councelor
[3:04] Robinson yes councelor buckwald yes coun
Rey Sho yes yes that is cared thank
[3:15] you are there any Declarations of
pecuniary interest and the general
[3:19] nature
thereof seen none then we'll move to the
[3:23] adoption of the minutes and I have a
motion that the May 6
[3:27] 2024 special and the May May 7th 2024
regular Council minutes be accepted as
[3:33] presented mov by councelor Robinson
seconded By councelor Buck
[3:39] Walt comments or questions any additions
Corrections
[3:44] yes to confirming bylaw for the May 6
meeting it was moved by Council buckwell
[3:49] and second by Council
[3:53] buckwell doing double Dy
[3:59] confirm will that special meeting yeah
confirm it
[4:10] was that dat the six six yeah that's the
sow one special me
[4:18] minutes you'll have to check that FL yes
okay so we'll note that uh
[4:28] correction and I'll call the vote
councelor burs yes councelor Robinson
[4:33] yes councelor buckwald yes councel re
shuls yes I yes that is carried
[4:45] you and that brings us to delegations
and it's our pleasure tonight that we
[4:50] have Mariel Birch who will be doing a
delegation and uh please come forward M
[4:56] you
[5:05] Mr girls and council members and staff
thank you for giving me this chance to
[5:10] speak to you
tonight I've got a few notes in front of
[5:13] me because I'm going to touch on a lot
little topics and I don't want to miss
[5:17] one so and as I said in my letter to you
I wanted a chance to let you know what
[5:23] it looked like from the other side of
the table and how difficult it seems to
[5:28] communicate with elected officials
because I just can't seem to get through
[5:33] the most of you when I want to or when I
need something or how long it takes and
[5:39] I'm sure I'm not the only one so the
following comments and concerns are mine
[5:45] and M alone and my opinion and I don't
come with any disrespect for
[5:52] anyone at this table or any council
members it just it just comes that I
[6:00] just don't think we're communicating
very well with the
[6:04] public
and I have to say that when I come to
[6:09] attend a meeting it's not a welcoming
atmosphere when you walk in here and it
[6:15] hasn't been until the last uh well once
I sent my letter it seemed to get a
[6:19] little better I wonder why but anyhow it
isn't welcoming there's tension in the
[6:25] room there's tension with everyone it
just does not feel good and I don't
[6:33] really know why but it doesn't it's
there's a distance in here it's not it's
[6:39] not relating with the public and that's
the way I feel and I have to say when Co
[6:45] was over and we were allowed back into
the chambers there were four chairs and
[6:51] on those chairs there there was this
notice that told us how to act I felt
[6:57] that was a real slap in the face
it felt like you were treating the
[7:04] public like a kindergarten Fox like we
didn't know how to
[7:09] act if we were going to cause a fuss or
uh be
[7:15] disrespectful Mr BRS could have said out
and we'd have went I I I just felt it
[7:21] was a real put down like as if we
shouldn't be here
[7:26] and that's the way I took it
I come to the meetings to see what I can
[7:33] learn about our Township and what's
going on what projects might be coming
[7:38] up what projects are going on how my tax
dollars are being spent and are they
[7:45] being spent well
or I mean that's that's my opinion
[7:51] whether they are or not and it's your
opinion but I I just that's why I come
[7:57] and I would like to see what council has
to say about any of these things uh I
[8:03] hear very very little discussion at this
Council table I don't know when the
[8:09] discussions take place I don't know when
you talk about these things that appear
[8:13] on the agenda but I don't hear them here
um so I I I guess I wonder how do you
[8:22] come to these decisions do you get a a
an agenda and you go from there and
[8:28] everybody just does their own thing
because I don't hear much here very
[8:32] little I mean there's some of course but
and there does seem to be tension in
[8:38] this
room with rate payers and councel it's
[8:43] as
if um it's a dividing line we're not all
[8:48] together and we should be I mean we are
the r payers here we pay the bills it's
[8:54] our taxes so I I don't know why the
tension it's as if there's a secret that
[8:59] that we shouldn't know and and so you
you don't want to discuss it in front of
[9:04] us or in front of me anyway I don't know
so it seems very difficult to get to
[9:10] talk to members of council and staff
without filling in a
[9:15] form or waiting for call backs I get
that we're busy and everyone's busy and
[9:22] so there's an answering machine down
here that takes your message and that's
[9:26] fine I can understand if you're busy and
answer the phone but for every call does
[9:32] it have to go to an answering machine
because there's more time wasted call
[9:37] backs more time for me to sit there and
wait for a call and then we play phone
[9:42] tag for how long till we finally get
through each other I I don't feel that's
[9:47] a good use of
time be meetings since my next topic as
[9:53] a rate payer sitting in the audience of
a regular meeting many times it is
[9:58] difficult to hear everyone so you have
to remember to speak up maybe some
[10:04] people need a mic I don't know what it
is and if you're online it's also
[10:09] difficult to hear people now I have to
admit I haven't listened online recently
[10:14] because I'm here but I don't know if
it's the owl in the sky or what it is
[10:20] that doesn't pick us up or or pick you
up or whatever and uh anyway it is
[10:28] difficult and I don't hear it that well
on the internet and it seems to take a
[10:34] long time for the minute of the a
council meeting to get to the utbe I
[10:41] don't know why it's take tonight why it
can't be there tomorrow it's everybody's
[10:46] on technology everybody can click a
button and it's there tomorrow and it
[10:50] doesn't seem to get there tomorrow so I
don't know what takes so
[10:54] long I listen to a couple of other
Township meetings quite
[11:00] frequently and I learn about upcoming
events things that are going on
[11:06] regulations coming down from the
government things like that and I hear
[11:11] discussions taking place among all the
members at the council table and so I
[11:17] know their feeling and what they're
thinking I don't hear that here I I
[11:22] don't know what it is but anyway if I
don't hear then I can I can learn a lot
[11:28] from them I wish I could learn the same
from here
[11:33] technology I'm old I know that and I
come from the old generation so I don't
[11:39] do well with computers Facebook Etc even
my cell phone was a challenge to
[11:46] me and I'm sure you realize that in our
Township we have a lot of
[11:51] seniors I mean we're made up of seniors
here and they have to be in the same
[11:57] boat I am a lot of them they just can't
handle this so they can't get to this
[12:02] information and another thing a lot of
them don't have reliable internet to to
[12:08] be able to
GA and we're also made up of a lot of
[12:12] farmers in this area they do not have
time to spend on their computers getting
[12:19] emails or anything else and pH me up and
ask me if I was at a meeting do I know
[12:24] what's going
on I don't know why but anyway
[12:29] and the tax bill the last tax bill we
received uh when I got it in the mail
[12:38] beautiful
nice nice color looks
[12:43] great did it cost to put that out in
color and and and how many people really
[12:49] paid attention to it I don't know second
thing on this thing under
[12:55] what what our community expects
listen to the consist
[13:04] constituency
constituents now I don't know how you
[13:08] can listen when we can't get to
you or I can't seem to get you but that
[13:15] that's what's on there so and I sat at a
meeting here where you discussed the uh
[13:22] little yellow tag for over half an hour
we spent on that one night at a meeting
[13:27] deciding whether we put it in the tax
filler we wouldn't put it in the tax
[13:31] bill NOP we wouldn't put it in the tax
fill up it's going to cost money to
[13:34] print off that size the sheet to go in
the tax bill instead we as a rate payer
[13:41] should drive down here and pick it out
but the price of gas today I don't think
[13:46] so so like that's something you could
have did for the rate payers to sent
[13:51] that little thing and even now that I've
got it I can't really understand it
[13:55] there's two gates at the
top I don't know if I can go to each of
[14:00] those because then down further it says
only one coupon per 911 address so does
[14:06] that mean I can only go to one of those
I'm I'm not sure what it's saying anyway
[14:11] that's that's just a comment I'm
making uh forms do people in this
[14:18] Township know what the Strategic plan is
or the service
[14:24] tracker I'm not even sure I know what
the heck the service tracker is so I
[14:29] don't know how many people know
this it seems that there's say there's
[14:34] so many forms that it just takes so long
to get anything done I wrote a letter
[14:39] asking to be put on the agenda at the
delegation but was then told I had to
[14:45] fill out a form I wrote the letter I
said exactly what I wanted but that
[14:50] wasn't good enough I had to fill out a
form and put it on a form I don't know
[14:54] what the difference was because the form
didn't give you as much information as I
[14:57] gave you in my letter we didn't have a
contact to get back to you you couldn't
[15:02] find me I couldn't find you everybody in
this room I think pretty well knows
[15:09] me however that's why we need a form
that's why you need a form well you
[15:17] could have asked but
anyway
[15:20] apologize the question period we had a
question period years ago and I think it
[15:25] worked well it might have only been 5 or
10 minutes at the end of a meeting but
[15:29] it was enough to be able to ask a
question or get something clarified like
[15:34] that little yellow sheet in here I think
it was a good thing because we might
[15:41] learn something and we might learn
something from each
[15:45] other the
website not a good website as far as I'm
[15:50] concerned and I don't know anything so
maybe I'm being too judgmental about
[15:54] that but I can't seem to find anything
on it and I don't know how often it's
[16:00] updated or what but there's still today
a thing on it saying that that closure
[16:05] on black road is now open and you can
drive through well that was way back at
[16:12] April 26th and it's still on there I
don't know why it's on there that road's
[16:16] been open since then pretty well all the
time so anyway that's that's the website
[16:23] I'm not happy with the quarterly
newspaper newsletter it's it looks
[16:29] beautiful it really does but it doesn't
give much information about our Township
[16:35] it doesn't tell
what much about our area it might pick
[16:40] up one person or another person but it
doesn't really tell you what's going on
[16:44] it doesn't tell you what uh project
projects are being done what roads are
[16:50] being done what is being done to the
roads a lot of people don't know um I I
[16:57] know our roads has talked to some people
because they asked some questions that
[17:02] they' told me they have
but they don't know so something like
[17:08] that could be put in the new in in that
but anyway I think it's beautiful but to
[17:13] me it's not worth the cost of costing to
do it and I'm not sure what the cost is
[17:18] but it wouldn't be that little
considering what it
[17:23] is and the
budget well I attended the budget
[17:27] meeting during the day and they were
held during the day and I can see that
[17:33] but there's so many people are not
available to come during the day so they
[17:36] wouldn't have been able to come I think
it I learned a lot from those meetings I
[17:43] appreciate being here and I think it was
well done and
[17:48] I I was happy I could come for
it however the budget meeting delivering
[17:55] it to the community
[17:59] was a waste of everyone's time your time
every one of you and me because what did
[18:04] it tell everybody nobody I knew
something things because I've been at
[18:08] the meetings but if you weren't here
that budget meeting told you why you had
[18:12] a budget now everyone to my knowledge
should know why you have to have a
[18:17] budget but
anyway it it told you nothing and it
[18:20] didn't give you much of a breakdown
except a little round circle with some
[18:24] things on it you couldn't ask the
question you couldn't make a comment to
[18:28] me it was a waste of time maybe it would
be better to have a meeting beforehand
[18:35] so the public could give you some input
if you wanted it but maybe you don't I
[18:42] don't know however that's my Spiel and I
think I've done my 10 minutes which it
[18:48] says I can have only so there you are I
just feel we need more communication I
[18:54] think even
a a public meeting four times a year
[19:00] instead of that newsletter might be
better so you could bring up points that
[19:05] are happening around that time or people
would have questions that they could
[19:09] answer ask or concerns to me that would
be better time
[19:15] spent than than the
newslet and I thank you all for
[19:21] listening to me and thank you very much
for your presentation we actually gave
[19:25] you five extra minutes so I I knew you
were to have to if you but because I I
[19:32] was checking out my thing at home and I
said I'm going to run over but if Mr
[19:37] Bros would like to stop me if we can no
that's fine I certainly appreciate your
[19:42] feedback and your comments and I'll turn
it over to council if they have any
[19:47] questions yes counc um I was just taking
some notes if we were going through if I
[19:51] may I just like
to my perspective on a couple of the
[19:55] things that were brought up okay um one
of the question questions that you asked
[20:00] was um when do discussions happen since
there seem to be a lot of discussion at
[20:04] at the council table and I can
understand
[20:09] that I know for
myself I we don't we don't have
[20:14] discussions at least not that I'm part
of outside of the
[20:18] meetings what happens is when we get our
our agenda package which has the
[20:22] information in it with with the
reports I pretty much have the
[20:26] information that I need to come to a
decision on my own right so there may
[20:33] not be a lot of discussion because the
reports have gotten a lot better than
[20:36] they were years ago just you know me or
I was on back around 2000 we didn't have
[20:41] the detail in the reports that we have
now so yeah there was a lot more
[20:44] discussion trying to get information
from staff at at this
[20:50] point I feel like I've got the
information that I need and and it it
[20:54] may not be the members of the public
hear the discussion and and see it but
[20:59] there's there's no back room meetings
happening I guess basically what I'm
[21:02] trying to say for if anybody that has
that
[21:05] concern um some of the other things um
yeah the technology challenges I'm with
[21:12] you 10% on that we we do have issues um
I don't like the website
[21:20] myself either I'd like to see something
a little bit a little bit different but
[21:24] again that's something that we can you
know take back to STA and see if we can
[21:27] find something that would work better
um was was there anything in particular
[21:32] in the in the website that you had
difficulty with like I as I said I'm not
[21:38] computer minded but there's always this
thing on the front and that's the thing
[21:42] that's saying that road is now open a
Black Creek Road and and until you click
[21:49] on that you can't get anywhere else like
that's
[21:53] silly I say
silly but
[21:58] if it was something important like
you're burning down here or something
[22:02] then maybe it's important but I didn't
fig
[22:07] that and and if I could just ask what
other question because you mentioned
[22:11] maybe having something like quarterly
public
[22:14] meetings what would you envision
happening in those
[22:18] meetings uh that you would feel that you
were
[22:21] getting basically what what you're
looking for the other R carers are
[22:25] looking for like what would it look like
to you well I don't know know perhaps
[22:29] you could have sheet of paper black and
white no colors no nothing exotic just
[22:36] something saying we're working on this
road right now and we're going to do
[22:40] this next year we'll try to do these
roads um this is what we're doing this
[22:47] is why are you grading up the sides of
the road I know because I've checked it
[22:52] out but people are saying why are you
putting all that gravel in the ditch
[22:59] well like something like that they don't
know this new technology if if there's
[23:03] something to be graded out and then it's
going to be picked up or it's not going
[23:08] to be picked up or whatever and I heard
councelor Rey shanfeld ask if you were
[23:14] now sweeping all the roads because she
had no idea obviously that the roads
[23:19] were being
swept well that's another thing tell the
[23:24] people what you're doing things like
that um maybe down the road we're having
[23:30] something in August or we're having this
or that you know put it down on a sheet
[23:36] of paper and and then that will give the
people something to think about and
[23:40] something to ask about and they might
know or you know what about the Bulan
[23:47] pickup or whatever that thing is here I
probably don't use it anyway I never had
[23:52] but I did pick one up was here with AES
but you know tell them about it maybe
[23:59] they're not familiar with
it
[24:03] okay that that gives me a little bit
more information thank
[24:08] you I'm I would have to agree like
communication is the key to success
[24:13] right trying to find a suitable
communication tool is difficult because
[24:17] I think it's a multifaceted
communication tool right and I do agree
[24:22] that we do have to give the rate payers
or customers more of a voice you know
[24:27] and we can like sometimes agree to
disagree but we can also maybe say we
[24:31] never thought about that because there's
stuff that people have thought and told
[24:34] me that I've never thought about before
even in terms of the rep committee some
[24:38] people have come forward and said did
you think about that idea or did you
[24:41] think about that idea or in another
Community we did this right so like I
[24:45] think many Minds can sometimes solve a
problem and I do agree with the fact
[24:49] that I feel sometimes we're spinning our
wheels and not actually getting the the
[24:55] task or the the pill completed
right so like moving forward I think
[25:00] you've given us a lot of of good ideas
and I think we should be able to
[25:04] complete some of them whether it's like
making the owl more usable or trying to
[25:07] figure out how we get it on YouTube
quicker or how we get our voice so that
[25:12] members of the gallery can hear us
better than others right and I don't
[25:16] think those are are difficult things I
do realize though that there's a lot of
[25:19] stuff that goes on behind the scenes
that even council's not aware of I also
[25:24] agree with the fact that I think there's
a lot more stuff downloaded to the
[25:27] municipality than ever was before and
like where you talk about having to um
[25:33] write out and fill a piece of paper to
get acknowledged the process I have a
[25:37] feeling that the people behind me have
to fill out tons more paper than they
[25:41] ever did before and those things
decrease
[25:44] productivity um in terms of the phone
calls it seems like many business now do
[25:49] have the answering machine and I I agree
with the fact it's so nice to actually
[25:53] talk to somebody on the phone rarely now
whenever I call somebody do I actually
[25:57] get somebody on the the phone and that's
a frustrating thing and I think
[26:02] like and what I've said before I like
when I call the Bank of Montreal in
[26:07] Eganville when I talk to the one person
there they say they will call me back
[26:10] within 24 hours even if they don't have
an answer for me at least I know that
[26:15] they they heard me so my my name was on
the answering machine I don't have to
[26:20] worry about like when people don't
answer you don't know if they a did I
[26:23] not do it right did I get cut off is
their mailbox full did something happen
[26:27] with the computer it's just nice to know
that somebody heard you and like lots of
[26:32] times you don't have the answer but at
least respond to say I'm thinking about
[26:35] it give me another week I think those
things are important you know and I do
[26:39] commend the fact that many people never
step up to a table and say what's going
[26:44] on they just go behind the scenes and
complain a lot right so I mean if you
[26:49] want change you know you have to have a
voice and say it in the right way so
[26:54] thanks Miss B
[27:01] yes not
Beed
[27:05] anymore I don't mind we know where you
live we'll break up the bright lights
[27:12] next no I just want to um express my
appreciation for you giving us that
[27:18] input that's the same thing you too okay
well thank you very much for having me
[27:23] and listening to me and maybe I can talk
to you all again than you
[27:41] so moving on we will go to reports and
item 7.1 is the noise bylaw
[27:49] extension and I have a motion that
Council agrees pursuant to section 5.0
[27:55] of bylaw 2020-4 of the noise bylaw to
extend the time that amplification
[28:01] equipment may be used at an outdoor
public or private event on Saturday
[28:05] August 24th
2024 to 1:00 a.m on Sunday August the
[28:11] 25th 2024 for property located at 1169
Traymore
[28:17] Road can I get a move in a second
removed by Council buckwell seconded by
[28:22] counc questions or
com yes I think it's just a good idea
[28:29] that people do this because I think it
makes um the neighbors know what's going
[28:32] on and then you'll have less issues down
the road so once again it's nice that
[28:37] people come forward because I know
probably there's other parties that go
[28:40] on and you know they don't take the same
[28:44] steps and I would just add that I think
it's important as well having this in
[28:50] place and if somebody does phone at
least our staff can say well you know
[28:55] that has been approved by Council for
this event and you know they went
[29:00] through the proper channels to get that
approval
[29:06] so I do believe that's a good good thing
any other
[29:11] comments seeing none Council burnt yes
councelor Robinson yes councelor
[29:16] buckwell yes councelor re Shel yes I me
yes it's carried thank you
[29:25] [Music]
[29:31] item 7.2 is the age friendly and
inclusive community and I have motion
[29:35] that Council accepts this report as
presented and furthered that Council
[29:39] affirms commitment to creating
age-friendly and inclusive communities
[29:43] in North Alona wer Forest
Township moved by councilor Robinson
[29:48] seconded by councelor Burnt com answer
or
[29:53] questions C Ricky sh so like I commend
Cameron I'm doing do a lot of this stuff
[29:58] and it's good for our community and and
just maybe in the future like I mean
[30:02] maybe we could do something at snow
Drifters just to highlight that facility
[30:05] also because it's nice to see the golden
Lake facility being highlighted and that
[30:09] but you know and then like the music jam
I was looking on somebody else's I think
[30:14] it was white water and the interesting
thing about that was it just highlighted
[30:18] every date there was somebody and who
was playing right and when I looked at
[30:22] that I thought that would be a great
opportunity because maybe somebody from
[30:24] there would come to like Melissa Bishop
gazebo or something like that especially
[30:28] summertime but you know just as U Mr
talked about the fact that it's nice if
[30:32] you have a list so then you can kind of
pick and choose if you're available for
[30:36] that
[30:40] day tommen where is your community
garden and gold L uh is just set the
[30:46] back um of the where not where the old
ball field is but behind the ball dot or
[30:52] the not the ball dinur the basketball
court oh okay yeah so there's right now
[30:58] staked out um the med night shed has
been ordered and it's on its way the
[31:04] raised beds are almost done being built
the contractor made a few more supplies
[31:08] so I went to T today so should be done
uh soon um and everything is supposed to
[31:15] be done for Monday that's when see
things get planted in the garden there's
[31:18] a public event
so it's a race to the finish line for
[31:26] Monday thank thank
you and I just had a question Cameron so
[31:31] how many how many people do we know how
many from the community are involved and
[31:37] is it golden Lake Community or is it the
whole outline area as well so it's the
[31:43] board of the food bank and some of the
food bank volunteers and they have quite
[31:48] a large contingent of volunteers um they
already had a small bed at the food bank
[31:54] so it's kind of a and they're not able
to use it anymore so it's just an
[31:58] expansion of kind of the existing
infrastructure that they have there uh
[32:03] but new people have joined their group
since then uh who are interested in
[32:08] garding specifically so hopefully
hopefully people come on Monday we have
[32:12] had a few comments from people that
they'd like to do um evening or weekend
[32:16] things but the current group is not
available at that time so we're going to
[32:21] try to figure it
[32:25] outg the other dimension 12 boxes raised
bed boxes um 3T by 10 ft the medite shed
[32:34] is 10 x 10 and the Gazebo is we're not
sure if it's G to be by or 10
[32:41] 10 so that that's a pretty good sized
Garden area yeah it
[32:49] is let's hope it doesn't get baliz
that's all Z yeah
[32:58] and and in terms of vandalism and stuff
and I know beachburg they had um at the
[33:02] fair some stuff vandalized and they knew
who it was and they went to the kids the
[33:06] other thing too is having the Buy in
right so if there was a youth
[33:10] group uh on the on the First Nations
perhaps they would like to you know
[33:15] contribute like when people work towards
something they're less likely to want to
[33:18] vandalize it I think you're 100% right
and the group has invited a youth group
[33:23] actually who meets at the Community Hall
on Fridays to be involved uh and they're
[33:27] going to painting some signs scen signs
for it and hopefully that does have a
[33:32] positive effect I also want to put a
solar light on the shed and on the Zeebo
[33:38] because I feel like if it's lit like one
of the issues is a dark back there
[33:41] that's what things kind of gone back
there but if we light it up then it will
[33:46] hopefully DET that right and like
sometimes a community looks after stuff
[33:50] right so if they feel like there's buy
to that they're more likely to say hey
[33:53] don't do that I know that's what you're
doing Smart M well and there's the you
[33:57] know the social uh broken window effect
where things are kind of falling apart
[34:02] then it just encourages more so and I
think actually since we repainted that
[34:07] building put the murals up repainted the
Community Hall I feel like since then
[34:12] there hasn't been any like that I've
that I've noticed you
[34:16] notied yeah like it was pretty frequent
before that and I think that because
[34:20] it's looking so nice people are are more
willing to take better care of things
[34:24] so that's Robinson and no I was just
going to comment that um the library
[34:30] also have a the garden and that's very
well utilized and has not had any issues
[34:41] so great any other comments SC N
councelor burns yes councel Robinson yes
[34:48] counc buckwell yes counc yes yes SC
[35:04] and in
7.3 is the uh seniors extended
[35:08] collaboration and I have a motion of
council accepts the report as presented
[35:12] and further that Council approves
extending the collaboration with the
[35:17] Eagan bille and District seniors by
working together on a horseshoe
[35:22] CLA moved by Council Robinson seconded
by councelor Bur
[35:27] answer
[35:30] questions
answer um Cameron did people approach
[35:34] you from the um seniors extended club
about the horseshoe pits yes and like
[35:40] would they have any like monies
available or any people willing to
[35:44] donate like wood for the frames or any
of that other stuff like it seems like
[35:48] in a way it would be nice with the
collaboration was also kind of a
[35:53] financial collaboration also I think at
this point it's not but they they are
[35:57] really good at getting grants and we
have worked together to get some grants
[36:01] in the past so I think it would just be
continuation of that relationship and
[36:05] would help for future potential but we
wouldn't we yeah but we couldn't get
[36:11] money for something that's already done
right right yeah but if we were to put
[36:16] say like you know at the May 6 meeting
we talked about like a pickle ball court
[36:19] or something like that like if people
are using the site and it's you know we
[36:23] have people in there that it's going to
generate more traction
[36:28] see I always feel better when like it's
like a partnership more money now you
[36:32] said like new shoes do we not did they
not have it they must have had
[36:36] horseshoes left I don't I'm not sure I
couldn't speak to what's available but
[36:40] the people who did approach veganville
seniors um are the former Hors club and
[36:47] they were looking at other locations too
so right I mean it's nice having it
[36:53] there and they did did enjoy it I
imagine there's so many in the rec
[36:56] committee but it would be nice if they
had some money in the game too I think
[37:02] or being able to like dig up the pits or
maybe they know somebody that would
[37:06] donate a load of sand like you know
maybe somebody knows where else now then
[37:12] we could just say thank you for your
contribution like I feel more
[37:16] comfortable going ahead with this if I
felt that somebody else was contributing
[37:19] some money to
it counc Robinson there are other
[37:24] community organizations that would be
able to say
[37:29] such as
Roary that has a fair bit of money
[37:35] available could we like somehow defer
this maybe until like even the next
[37:40] Recreation meeting and then maybe
somebody you know could talk to the
[37:45] rotary and maybe this amount of $22,000
could be reduced to
[37:50] $1,000 maybe yeah I mean that dollar
amount isn't ERS sure thing that's just
[37:55] a qu a general idea but um yeah I mean
we could defer I think it' be nice if we
[38:01] said we're interested in moving forward
with a partnership but we aren't
[38:05] committing any dollars you can say
that I would feel better about
[38:12] that counc are you making recommendation
to amend to defer to just to defer the
[38:18] whole thing right because then perhaps
we can get more information right you
[38:22] could talk to them and say is there any
and then you know you could approach the
[38:25] rotary we could bring it up other
committee meeting and saying would you
[38:29] would we like to contribute to something
like that is there a timeline
[38:34] requirement well so the motion is that
we work together on abortion Club it
[38:38] doesn't say I mean we can amend it to be
more specific to say I don't know that
[38:44] sh exactly maybe you guys have a
suggestion for how to word it more um
[38:49] clearly like what Our intention is
because you're going to get in contact
[38:53] with members of the enville seniors
right yeah and she want to update
[38:58] tomorrow so but I mean that's a good
update just saying yes of course you
[39:02] know we're considering the facility and
stuff like that we're just looking at a
[39:05] a way to you know reduce the dollar
amount yeah I would suggest we defer an
[39:13] least till the next meeting do that give
staff enough
[39:17] time yeah I don't think there I think
you're right Cameron there's no dollar
[39:20] value in the
resolution if you're passing the it's
[39:28] funds at this point is not a budget
item Oh no you're right we're just the
[39:40] resolution and then we'll look for money
yeah collaborations collaborations with
[39:45] my
hon yeah because this just talks about
[39:51] standing the
collaborations and very well there might
[39:54] be some if you do do that like some
people might donate like I'm just think
[39:57] country Depot has done a lot right with
the races and stuff like that maybe they
[40:01] donate the the wood right that would be
a saing you know Ral sell he has our
[40:07] contractor for S gravel maybe he donate
and then you know it's just
[40:12] labor thank
[40:17] you so any other comments or
[40:22] questions this motion has been moved in
second it so I'll call the vote Council
[40:26] burs yes councel Robinson yes councelor
buckwell yes councel Rey Shel yes M yes
[40:34] and that's
[40:38] carried item 7.4 is the bant municipal
land and I have a motion that Council
[40:45] accepts the report as presented and
further staff recommend that Council
[40:49] direct to send the information related
to the 4.2 acre property located at lot
[40:55] for concession 2 on wless Street within
the village of golden Lake to be
[40:59] included in the land identified for
potential development and continue to
[41:04] collaborate with County staff regarding
the person uh just before that's move Mr
[41:09] Mayor I think that should be direct
staff
[41:17] too St the information to okay
[41:33] I think that's a friendly Amendment it's
not moved
[41:43] yet so I'll ask for mooving second with
with that direction moved by councelor
[41:48] buckwell seconded by councelor R
[41:53] Shan comments questions
[41:58] so is there like a master list
throughout like you know the county and
[42:02] through the The Province like for people
looking for um like pieces of land to
[42:09] develop is that kind of what this is
coming from I don't think there is a
[42:12] master L the county is trying to create
a list based on I think what I've been
[42:17] told is they were doing it within the
county and then extended it to local
[42:22] municipalities who might have property
available okay and then they'd
[42:26] advertised that
yeah they've put out an expression of
[42:30] interest to developers and other
organizations who are interested in
[42:34] helping the housing are developing
through the housing crisis so it's just
[42:39] a start at saying we have this exclusive
property and as I said in the report um
[42:44] all the planning matters still are in
place it's not like we're just putting
[42:47] it up and they're going to do with it
with it whatever they would like it's
[42:50] just we have a piece of property there's
potential so we're kind of putting it
[42:55] into the bunch with the county to say we
can look at
[42:59] this question yeah part of the eastern
Ontario Warden office is that their
[43:05] commitment is uh to
build 7
[43:12] 700 homes or 7,000 homes in seven years
7,000 I think it is and so they're
[43:19] trying to make the uh process more
efficient by having the um local
[43:25] municipalities identif ify properties
that they would uh be willing to put out
[43:30] for development it saves the developers
a little bit of time trying to search
[43:36] themselves so the County's taking a lead
on it and uh they'll include any of the
[43:42] lower tier municipalities who want to
add their vacant property to the
[43:51] list this property has been surveyed in
the last couple weeks and it's all
[43:56] marked out now
so we don't we don't have looking for
[43:59] the
[44:04] lines any other
comments see none councelor bur yes
[44:10] councelor Robinson yes councelor bu yes
counc yes I yes that's very
[44:22] C item 7.5 is a community complex
Board sign and I have a motion that
[44:29] Council accepts the report as presented
and further that Council gives direction
[44:33] to repair or remove the wooden sign and
direct staff to develop a media policy
[44:38] in regards to Municipal signage and
social media
[44:45] content had and move by councelor
Robinson seconded by councelor bur
[44:50] comments
[44:53] questions Council there should be a
policy on the book somewhere regarding
[44:58] that sign because it's always been tanip
policy in the past that it the sign was
[45:03] only used for events related to
Community Center rentals unless there
[45:07] was a request made to
council and now that's going back a
[45:11] number of years but I don't I don't
believe was ever resed so there should
[45:15] still be something on books but it could
easily be replaced with something
[45:20] new uh just if we do do a one we just
make sure that we revoke anys that are
[45:26] in
[45:31] counc sometimes I like that sign and I
like when we put something positive on
[45:35] there especially when it was Co and
stuff like that but I realized too when
[45:39] you're taking the letters off and the
numbers off and putting them on that's a
[45:42] very time consuming job and and for
paying our Public Works people or or
[45:46] Cameron whoever like is that a wise use
of our dollar per hour resources right I
[45:52] also realized that the whatever that's
electronic sign that's put on side of
[45:57] the fire hall to me doesn't get a lot of
bang for our buck either and that I
[46:02] don't think a lot of people see it I
also realized when we bought that we
[46:05] were going to replace that and stick it
where the old wooden one was but because
[46:09] of like being too close and M and all
that other stuff we couldn't so we stuck
[46:14] it there so we're back to this problem
of how do we communicate to people in
[46:18] our area about stuff going on right and
also wise use of our dollar resources
[46:23] for hour you know you don't see many
signs like that
[46:27] anymore you know and so like if we have
to you know the cost of putting the
[46:32] stuff up in there and the cost of like
fixing it again is that really good
[46:36] value for the money that we
[46:40] have personally and it's it's a
financial outlay I'd like
[46:45] to look into if we can replace that sign
with a two side electronic one which was
[46:50] the original plan because again it's
very easily easily done by computer
[46:56] remotely so it doesn't require somebody
going out and having to you know pick
[47:01] off letters everything else maintain it
it would be a matter of essentially of
[47:05] running electricity to it because it's
an existing sign there really shouldn't
[47:08] be an issue with MTO if we're not
changing its its size or shape unless a
[47:14] something with that because it is close
to the intersection and it is within you
[47:19] know 100 of the load type
thing I can speak to that you probably
[47:25] are lucky at this point because you
probably supposed to pay an annual fee
[47:28] to the
mq I I I think it's small enough for the
[47:33] square footage of the sign there every
sign has a b a sign that dictates the
[47:39] cost so from this side to this side is
so much so I'm not sure if they aware
[47:46] that you even have the sign there
because I I think they probably thought
[47:49] the electric sign was going to remove
that sign so and from what I understand
[47:54] is the one that was put on the building
was allowed to because because it was
[47:57] put on the building and not on M
Property so there are setbacks for signs
[48:04] so that's a I really think when we had
we bought that sign because we got a
[48:08] grant for that for that Main Street
grant that that's what we're going to do
[48:12] and I'm almost absolutely sure that's
why we put them both one here and one
[48:17] there because we couldn't put it there
again because well MTO we were waiting
[48:22] for MTO to give us a response on whether
or not we could do it yeah I'm pretty
[48:26] sure Mr told us that we couldn't do it
like I'm I'm almost positive of that one
[48:31] and but I mean it's one of those things
that you know these two signs here I
[48:37] think are
[48:40] underutilized Council Robinson I okay I
think we're getting conflicting um
[48:46] remarks when it came to the sign because
originally as counselor like shanfeld
[48:52] had indicated that sign that's on the
building was supposed to
[48:57] and we're told it's too bright it's too
distracting blah blah blah now are we
[49:03] going to be able to put anything up
there if the the guidelines are still
[49:07] the
same you know what I mean like is if we
[49:11] put an electronic sign there there must
be some rules about lighting and
[49:17] background Etc in order to do something
like
[49:21] that because when we were told
originally was because it was too
[49:26] distracting to have the sign in the spot
that we wanted
[49:31] it that's what yeah I don't recall we
that we ever got anything official from
[49:36] MTO on that so
maybe that's something to consider is
[49:41] let's reach out that's reach out to MTO
and electronic one here and and get a
[49:48] firm answer and what would it cost
exactly or if we can't put it there can
[49:54] we put it at the Public Works Garage in
Golden Way
[49:59] and and again a two-sided one so that it
could be seen properly because basically
[50:03] we had a two-sided sign we split it up
into two to put one here and one there
[50:06] to get some utility out of them that
might be an even better
[50:11] option def address our issue with the
existing
[50:16] side that's the direction staff is
looking for what do we do the existing
[50:21] sign it's uh it's well I ask Adrian it's
in a state of there where it's probably
[50:28] should come down I'm going to be
brutally honest I don't even know that I
[50:33] no that sign
before I haven't so when we discussed
[50:39] this last week I said well I was going
to take a peek at it but I haven't yet
[50:43] but from what I understand it it does
need some repair and some more that and
[50:48] most of the pieces are missing
[50:52] so I I I believe that you you probably
won't get approval for a electronic sign
[50:58] at that
location I have to agree with that or
[51:01] any other sign for that matter right so
I mean once you removed something you're
[51:06] probably going remove it forever
yeah especially I think in that there's
[51:13] so many concerns about absents in that
corner it is distracted like when you
[51:18] are turning in that general area there's
a lot going
[51:22] on just keeping your eyes on the RO is a
fulltime Val to
[51:30] SCI I
[51:34] guess
think
[51:38] the in on the premise of
communication having something there
[51:44] does add
value however the concern which everyone
[51:49] has is that anything electronic is going
to be distracting now can you have an
[51:56] electronic sign that is not blaring at
you I think that's the
[52:04] question because you can adjust the
lighting on the CCH size and everything
[52:08] else so that it's not so intense
exactly you know the portable ones we
[52:14] had here before and they're on Wheels
yeah are there different requirements
[52:18] for them like for instance if there
wasn't I'd take down that one I'd stick
[52:22] a wheelie one there but still a permit
is required um
[52:27] but it's a temporary permit because it's
on Wheels you can have it there for a
[52:31] week or 14 days or something and then
you must remove it because sometimes I
[52:37] think um when I see something new then
that draws my attention to it if it's
[52:41] been there forever then I kind of zone
out on it right and so like something
[52:45] like that where we could maybe rent it
and if it wasn't that expensive maybe
[52:48] look at purchasing one where we could
have it like in the summer till like the
[52:52] fall when all most of the activities are
going on I don't know
[52:58] but I I agree once we take it down I
just think that AA want to really put
[53:02] more money into something that you
[53:07] know so am I hearing correctly that
council's direction to staff will be to
[53:14] remove the existing sign could we wait
till the summer
[53:19] something well the other issue is that
we that the plastic pieces are really
[53:24] brittle and most of them are brok so we
have no numbers at this point and very
[53:29] few letters so when the public wants to
put information on there it's very
[53:33] difficult because could be P like
[53:37] Scrabble I don't know yeah see those are
very old yeah right and they the element
[53:46] and the elements they took a lot of UV
like before people worried about like so
[53:49] the plastic wasn't designed for it
um maybe it maybe a suggestion if reach
[53:55] out to one of the local sign people
people that we used in the past to see
[53:58] if they can what the cost would be to
make us some new numbers I hate because
[54:02] again it is existing and like you said
once you take it down it's gone you're
[54:06] not going to get to put something back
so if we want to have something
[54:09] there I I would be opposed to take that
down at this
[54:14] point so if we leave it then we have to
uh we have to either update our policy
[54:19] or create a new one because it would
only be correctly if I'm wrong but uh
[54:27] something we could use three seasons
because in the winter unless somebody
[54:31] cleans all this more and the bottom you
can up there to put the letters on and
[54:38] well you don't have to climb it's not
it's not that high you can actually put
[54:42] them on while standing you might need a
steps tool for the top row but I don't
[54:45] even think that um but yeah it would be
walking through the snow to get to
[54:52] it again the thing is like say once it's
gone it's gone then you don't have the
[54:56] option
anymore even if we deferred with some
[55:00] with some direction the staff to get a
price on replacement
[55:04] lettering that's not a bad idea
so council is okay to defer her
[55:16] yes and could we also find out about an
electronic sign there something was
[55:20] possible to me so you want like an
updated Report with information on the
[55:24] electronic side from the MTO pricing for
new letters and are you interested at
[55:29] all in the option of putting a permanent
like if we're even allowed we have to
[55:32] ask MTO but like a welcome to Gold l or
something permanent no I don't think so
[55:37] because yet it is a busy intersection
yeah people aren't even going to notice
[55:41] it if there's something there that
changes from time to time that it might
[55:43] catch their eye then I can see a value
to that but but just having something
[55:48] like that for the sake of having that I
don't see the value in that
[55:52] [Music]
no so it's deferred and direct is to
[55:56] bring back more information Council
Burns yes councel Robinson yes counc
[56:02] Buck yes counc ra yes yes it's car thank
[56:12] you item 7.6 is the ministry for seniors
and accessibility inclusive community
[56:18] Grant and I have a motion that the
committee accepts that the council
[56:24] accepts the report as presented and
further that Council authorizes staff to
[56:28] complete the application for inclusive
community Grant and if successful it
[56:33] will be used for the snow Drifter
facility moved by councelor buckwold
[56:38] seconded by Council Robinson questions
[56:43] comments so if we were successful at
attaining the
[56:47] $60,000 but let's just say then when we
really put out the um RFP or whatever we
[56:55] call it and it comes in at like
$90,000 can we just get back that
[57:01] $660,000
so the uh doors we've already put in a
[57:06] door at bom lake so we know that we can
get we know what the base price for that
[57:11] lease that job is um and for the
aluminum ramp we we can just order that
[57:18] and is that about so that price of
$122,000 is fairly accurate that price
[57:22] is accurate the only variable is the
building of the
[57:27] decking and how you know how elaborate
we can get with that will depend on what
[57:31] price we
get so you feel fairly confident that
[57:37] you know we could do that for $60,000
yeah but like I said the variability is
[57:42] going to be
deing
[57:46] yeah at the very least even updating
ramp the ramp death Rel leads be updated
[57:52] it's a safety issue and the and the two
the two doors that are are difficult to
[57:57] open so they need to replace with some
door so it' be nice if they were to find
[58:01] door like it
[58:05] for any other comments or
questions I agree with what you're
[58:10] saying Cameron if if we're talking about
inclusive community and especially for
[58:17] uh aging population we want to make sure
whatever we put in is current with
[58:23] today's uh regulations foress
[Music]
[58:31] accessibility any other
questions see none Council burn yes
[58:37] Council Robinson yes Council buckwell
yes Council yes yes that's thank
[58:54] you 7 point seven is uh the results of
the special council meeting at snowdor
[59:01] facility and I have a motion that
Council accepts to report his
[59:06] information moved by councelor bur
seconded by C
[59:12] CH questions or
[59:18] comments see
sorry
[59:24] um it's it's fine to accept information
but we held a meeting to develop a plan
[59:29] as to what we're going to do with the
property I think we need to have an
[59:32] action plan for this information as
opposed to just accepting it and putting
[59:37] on
[59:39] shelf because otherwise there was no
point in having the Mee so the advisory
[59:44] committee has made a working group
specifically focused on snow Drifter
[59:48] they've had one meeting so far they're
going to have another one next week and
[59:51] they are going to present some
recommendations to the advisory
[59:54] committee and the advisory committee is
going
[59:59] so my my suggest Mr and let's do the
tick box and submit this to the advisor
[1:00:05] committee as well as long as it's not
just going to sit somewhere and be lost
[1:00:09] because that was if not a waste of a
meeting if we're not going to do
[1:00:12] anything with the
[1:00:15] information do we need a new
[1:00:23] motion motion
did did the report not indicate that we
[1:00:28] were sending it to the didn't check off
the boss oh sorry yeah they were there
[1:00:34] so and I have S these graphs them so
this second paragraph um members of the
[1:00:41] snow Drifter facility working group of
the advisory committee to council
[1:00:45] committee attended the meeting and are
preparing a report to Lear to The
[1:00:48] Advisory to council
[1:00:52] committee okay that's fine sorry about
we'll use the
[1:00:59] Box because I'm not part of the advisory
committee and there was lots of good
[1:01:03] discussion going on so like I had one
thought and like it looked like people
[1:01:07] really feel strongly about keeping the
snow drifter's name which is great um
[1:01:11] and then I was thinking too if we ever
developed a sign just for Branding again
[1:01:15] where you'd have the Four Seasons so so
something nearly like a coat of arms
[1:01:18] where you know the spring you'd have
these activities and and that it's just
[1:01:22] like the people more people that know
they can do more things at that facility
[1:01:26] the
[1:01:34] better any other
[1:01:38] comments see none counc Burns yes
councelor Robinson yes councelor buw yes
[1:01:46] coun yes any yes very
[1:01:54] [Music]
item 7.8 is uh regarding intimate
[1:01:59] partner violence and I have a motion
that Council accepts the report as
[1:02:03] presented and further that staff create
the proposed policies to address
[1:02:08] intimate partner violence in the
township for Council
[1:02:14] approval can I get a mo in a second move
by councel re Shel seconded by can
[1:02:22] buold questions comments
[1:02:28] I think it it would be a great um thing
to have for sure because I mean it's a
[1:02:33] terrible thing it's like once again it
goes back to like how do we communicate
[1:02:38] this to a rate payers that there are
safe spaces and this could be a plan if
[1:02:41] you you felt you needed to talk to
somebody so I think that's really
[1:02:44] important which gets back to like do we
have a town hall do we have meetings you
[1:02:48] know four times a year and do that
because I think that's important the
[1:02:51] other thing I'd like to see is those
contact numbers like R County victim
[1:02:56] Services bred at mccan house on our
website that should be a number that
[1:02:59] should be easily found when you're in a
crisis situation you're not thinking
[1:03:03] calm and clearly but it would be nice if
I could go there and I'd find those
[1:03:06] numbers and I think that's just really
important and like those numbers should
[1:03:11] be in different parts of our in the main
office and every in all our buildings
[1:03:16] and including if we could get some
businesses that would have it even with
[1:03:19] a tear off right because if I'm getting
you know something's going on in my
[1:03:23] relationship but I go to the grocery
store see a poster with a tear off and
[1:03:27] I'm going to tear it off right or if I
go to Cottage cup or if I go to the gas
[1:03:30] station I'm going to tear it off right
because you don't want to keep a secret
[1:03:33] you don't want your partner to think
you're you're doing something right but
[1:03:37] you also need those things to be able to
go on the next
[1:03:44] step I think this is a great idea
because if I remember correct well I
[1:03:49] don't don't even want to try and
remember but there was something like
[1:03:53] and maybe Cameron you know the exact
number
[1:03:56] 40 or 50 recommendations that came out
of that uh inquiry I don't know exactly
[1:04:03] sory I can't remember the exact number
but there were quite a few and uh this
[1:04:09] is just I think a great opportunity to
start moving in a Direction Where We can
[1:04:15] provide a little more support for
somebody who's going through a
[1:04:19] challenging
situation and I like your idea of
[1:04:23] sharing it with businesses I mean you
certainly have to have that conversation
[1:04:27] whether they would want to post that I
don't know if there'd be an objection
[1:04:32] but Council but I I I think on that sort
of
[1:04:36] thing I I understand the desire of
council to to support that but I think
[1:04:41] that would be best left to the
organizations like Bernette mccan and
[1:04:44] victim services so that it's information
coming from One
[1:04:48] Source um and that they know exactly
what is out there um like the fact that
[1:04:54] we're going to buy a safe space that's
not something you want to advertise
[1:04:59] that's that's that's something that the
agencies need to know that they can
[1:05:04] access because if not a candidate Feats
the purpose of it being a quiet place
[1:05:09] through them to go but what I what I was
looking for is just having the numbers
[1:05:13] posted not necessarily what we're doing
oh oh absolutely and again and I'm sure
[1:05:18] that ber mcken and VI Services would be
able to provide that material for us as
[1:05:22] opposed to generating something of our
own it's much better to let the the
[1:05:26] experts provide the materials and then
we can after the source for no and
[1:05:30] that's what I meant but they have to you
know people that are are seeking help
[1:05:34] need to know where to go for help and
I'm not saying and they need telephone
[1:05:38] numbers and they need contacts right yes
I just want to say there were also other
[1:05:43] recommendations but I don't feel that we
were ready to implement some of the
[1:05:46] other ones like we just don't have the
resources these ones were ones I thought
[1:05:49] we could do right away and I will
continue to meet with them and just see
[1:05:54] like where we're at but some of the
other ones involved training or at the
[1:05:58] community safety and well-being days
where we have um fire safety stuff
[1:06:02] having someone from the services come
and be present and just offer
[1:06:05] information stuff like that like there's
other things we could kind of move into
[1:06:09] doing but this was just easy to you know
kind of move B with something Pastor
[1:06:15] Robinson I'm just curious some of the
other municipalities have like a 511
[1:06:21] number that um the person can it's very
easy to remember and once they get into
[1:06:28] that number they're directed to wherever
they may need that help I'm tering a 211
[1:06:34] yes can can provide you with the
resources in the provs I think promoting
[1:06:39] that as a one way of getting in would be
much more beneficial than yes having the
[1:06:46] numbers posted in multiple places but if
we can start publicizing the 211 as an
[1:06:54] emergency access
besides an information access
[1:06:59] it's information you know because most
times you don't even know where to
[1:07:04] start well I agree with councilor meld I
think Bernard McAn has already some of
[1:07:09] those printed uh information sheets that
they can make available and as you say
[1:07:15] they put in communitys
[1:07:20] absolutely this is a step in the right
direction
[1:07:28] comments none counc bur yes counc
Robinson yes counc B yes coun yes yes
[1:07:37] that's carried thank
[1:07:45] you item 7.9 is the building fees report
and I have motion that Council accepts
[1:07:51] the report as
presented move by buckwell seconded by
[1:08:00] answer answer
[1:08:06] questions do we have um a designated
reserve for building
[1:08:13] inspection not excuse me not at this
time but we will
[1:08:18] be looking at all of the RS and I guess
when you look to the appendix a I guess
[1:08:25] I was just concerned about um and I I
guess we'll know more what's going on
[1:08:31] this year but in
2022 the uh building per permit fees
[1:08:36] versus 2023 building perit fees and then
we looked at um salaries and
[1:08:43] wages you
[1:08:47] know I mean part of the reason we went
with a full-time CBO
[1:08:53] was I guess part of the reason we had a
part-time CVO before shared with BV was
[1:08:58] to cut costs right or to share costs
that's a better we well I guess to cut
[1:09:02] cut salary costs and then when you look
at it now like $66,000 $24,000 that's a
[1:09:08] big increase and then if you look what
we brought in
[1:09:14] that's I'm just saying it's something to
consider because there's only so much
[1:09:18] money out
[1:09:20] there yeah um I I hear what you're
saying but I think if if you were to
[1:09:26] reach out to our neighbor I think you
would find that they don't have the time
[1:09:29] to split a
[1:09:32] position to be able to be able to split
a a
[1:09:36] CBO um unless you're unless you're going
to hire them to work underneath Chief
[1:09:41] Building official assistant building
officials if you can find them and it's
[1:09:48] not by the time you do that you're not
going to have a huge
[1:09:52] savings and and it did work that well
for us in the past and just add to that
[1:10:00] in a lot of the smaller municipalities
the CBO wears more than one hat in a lot
[1:10:07] of cases they're also
bylaw and uh there could be fire pre
[1:10:13] fire prevention fire chief yeah
so uh I don't know who you would find
[1:10:19] somebody that you could share and and
again then the challenge becomes how can
[1:10:23] you ensure that you're equally getting
the amount of time that you
[1:10:28] need and with the uh I know our chief
building official right now is very very
[1:10:36] busy and it is time turn this
Sky she probably is full-time working on
[1:10:45] building right now well I think the
other thing that we should remember is
[1:10:48] that we did um the permit fee bylaw and
we knew that our rates were lower than
[1:10:54] anyone a in County right so the that fee
permit that we brought in last year was
[1:11:00] deflated we said the that so didn't we
did make some effort to get those
[1:11:04] numbers up a little
bit and I know that the legislative
[1:11:09] changes related to CBO have put that
position in demand and there is no um
[1:11:16] there's really not many cbos around me
we grew our own R and our time been head
[1:11:22] hunt
[1:11:29] any other
comments see none Council B yes Council
[1:11:34] Robinson yes Council Buck yes counc re
yes yes very thank
[1:11:46] you item 7.10 is the U Community Grant
request I have a motion of council Wes
[1:11:55] the daily rental fee for the goldome
night call for the gold night excuse me
[1:11:59] 48 sheep Club to host a one day
fundraising event in
[1:12:04] June move by coun buckwell seconded by
coun burn questions or
[1:12:11] comments that's have they used up their
four days or their four times that was
[1:12:18] the last J is for winter meetings right
and so they use those more up so I I
[1:12:24] mean I see the value of 4 and um I have
been a leader along with the rest of my
[1:12:29] family and lots of times we just went to
a person's place when we were doing
[1:12:33] meetings or fundraising I see why they'd
like to have it at Golden
[1:12:39] Lake but I mean we already did
contribute and give them something
[1:12:44] already I
mean maybe a reduced rental fee but
[1:12:49] they're they say they're using it for
fundraising so maybe some of the funds
[1:12:53] have to go towards a rental
[1:13:00] I just ask what is the daily rle
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[1:13:07] feet 150 to 1550 yes
[1:13:15] okay and they're going to be doing
painting burn Hills
[1:13:25] I mean and they do say it's a fundraiser
so they're expecting people to donate
[1:13:31] money I mean to me it's just we still
have to have somebody to ensure that
[1:13:36] it's clean right and to lock and
[1:13:45] unlock so we'd be donating to their
fundraiser we have
[1:13:50] already Robinson I would
um suest that we do it at a reduce rate
[1:13:57] not for
[1:14:01] free would you suggest 50%
[1:14:08] yes any other
[1:14:18] comments do we have to change
that I think we do
[1:14:31] we
would rental fee of $75
[1:15:08] so I'll the
[1:15:38] so the resolution now reads that Council
provides a reduced rental fee for the
[1:15:42] day to $75 for the golden KN call for
the golden KN for sheep Club to host a
[1:15:47] one- day fundraising event in
June so councilor buckel and councelor B
[1:15:53] the movers and seconders are you okay
with the revised resolution
[1:15:59] yes any other
comments see none councelor burn yes
[1:16:06] councelor Robinson yes councelor
buckwell yes councelor Rey scheld yes I
[1:16:12] yes
[1:16:18] carried item 7.11 is in regards to
public Communications and I have a mo
[1:16:25] that Council accepts the public Council
communication processes report is
[1:16:29] presented and that Council Vision to
promote a procedure provide a report on
[1:16:34] the preferred process they desire to
implement to staff by Tuesday May 28th
[1:16:40] to be included for discussion at the
June 4th 2024 regular council
[1:16:47] meeting mov by Council buckwell second
by Council alry
[1:16:55] questions or
comments so Laura you reached out to
[1:17:00] like all the municipalities in arford
county and then they just came back
[1:17:06] that always
done did they see if any of them were
[1:17:12] better than others or did they give you
a comment on that I just just that one
[1:17:17] yeah
okay so I did speak to a number of the
[1:17:21] other Mayors there's only two other
um councils in all of rental P that
[1:17:30] actually do a question period where
there's dialogue back and
[1:17:35] forth White Water Council and arm prior
Council they allow public comments but
[1:17:41] there's no interact there's no dialogue
with Council they can provide their
[1:17:45] comments at the end of the meeting and
it's recorded in the
[1:17:49] minutes the only two that
provide a questing period are were
[1:17:54] admist Brumley and McNab brayon admaston
Brumley and speaking to the mayor there
[1:18:00] he said there's very very few times
where they even get somebody showing up
[1:18:05] that wants to ask a question the mayor
from McNab braide said don't use our
[1:18:10] municipality as an example on how to
property run a meeting
[1:18:18] so yeah Council BR I I know because we
did have this
[1:18:22] opportunity backround and I hate to say
this at the turn of the century or the
[1:18:26] turn of the Millennium uh when we did
have that at the end of the meeting and
[1:18:31] we had very few issues with it I I know
there's some concern with things that
[1:18:35] have gone on in the last decade or
decade and a bit but
[1:18:40] um I think that just comes down to if
there are issues
[1:18:43] then the chair just maintains
order as as far as out of the the
[1:18:49] question period again if if it's
appropriate and relevant with with some
[1:18:53] guidelines that I'm the members of
council will suggest staff in written
[1:18:58] reports prior to the
meeting I don't have an issue that being
[1:19:02] question period
by so when you want a report do you want
[1:19:08] like everything or just like a the
general this is a way do you want like
[1:19:12] all the rules and procedures and
anything I think the vision that you
[1:19:16] have and then the rules need to be with
with all
[1:19:28] any other
[1:19:31] comments I certainly I'm not in support
of the question periods and I think it's
[1:19:36] people go all the way back to the intent
of the mpal act that Council meetings
[1:19:42] are public means that they're available
for the public to observe and listen
[1:19:49] without comment I certainly don't have a
problem with doing some Town Hall
[1:19:55] meetings because I think then it's not
part of the regular agenda you can have
[1:20:02] a more flexible in interaction with your
[1:20:09] residents that's that's my
comments I I think the council meetings
[1:20:15] are really the the business of council
and the decisions we
[1:20:21] made are something that could be
discussed in a town hall meeting if you
[1:20:26] do it on a quarterly or or every four
month
[1:20:31] basis but you're not under to deal with
it every
[1:20:43] meeting any other
comments see none councelor burs yes
[1:20:49] counc Robinson yes counc buckwell yes
counc re yes
[1:20:55] yes
[1:21:05] very item 712 is the tax collection
policy and I have a motion to council
[1:21:10] accepts the report and passes the tax
policy and further that any former
[1:21:15] bylaws pertaining to this matter are
hereby
[1:21:19] resed moved by councelor Robinson
seconded by councelor buckell
[1:21:25] comments
questions coun for something I like the
[1:21:30] general followup methods I like like
that those instructions or those
[1:21:35] procedures do we know how much money it
that um we do have in our
[1:21:43] years
[1:21:52] okay I like this and I certainly
supportive because I think it's
[1:21:56] important to have a a policy that's
clear so for staff if there are
[1:22:02] questions um everybody is getting the
same message as far as the process that
[1:22:09] we have in place and intend to follow
counc BR um I just have one question I
[1:22:16] think it just might be an admission by
staff uh we don't accept
[1:22:20] cash for tax payments
is it to indicate that we don't is that
[1:22:27] your question sorry well uh section
seven accepted payment
[1:22:30] methods uh we accept telephone or
Internet banking checks uh payments at
[1:22:36] financial institutions payments by
mortgage company payments Ted in US
[1:22:40] funds will be accepted at the exchange
rate and third party checks will not be
[1:22:42] accepted nothing saying we accept cash
[1:22:52] okay so St
yeah I'm sorry about that thank
[1:23:06] you any other
[1:23:11] comments see none and I'll call the vote
on the resolution as
[1:23:16] amended councelor Bert yes counc
Robinson yes councilor B yes counc yes
[1:23:24] yes
[1:23:28] scary I didn't do
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[1:23:32] anything I but
[1:24:00] so we're at item
9.1 which is
[1:24:06] correspondence and it's non-action and I
have a motion that correspondence items
[1:24:11] 9.1.1 to 9.1.2 be accepted as
information moved by cancer buckwold
[1:24:18] seconded by Cher BT
[1:24:25] counc BS yes counc Robinson yes counc
Bal yes counc Sho yes yes thanks car
[1:24:34] thank
[1:24:39] you item 9.3 is the Chio child safety
Guide magazine and I have motion of
[1:24:46] council approves of advertising in the
Chio children's safety guide that has
[1:24:51] replaced the tiny Hearts magazine at the
same rate of 295,000
[1:25:00] $295 plus HSC for a business card size
ad moved by councelor buckwell second
[1:25:08] advised councelor
Robinson call answer
[1:25:15] questions seeing none Council bur yes
counc Robinson yes counc B
[1:25:23] yes no
I me yes that's
[1:25:41] car so we're at B Lin we don't add B
Lin are there any matters of
[1:25:50] urgency any notice of motion
we've done our reports from committees
[1:25:57] so upcoming meetings and unfinished
business so our next
[1:26:02] advisory um to council committee meeting
is May the 29th at 7 pm our next regular
[1:26:09] council meeting are June the 4th 214 at
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[1:26:15] 7M and at this point I would suggest we
take a five minute pause before we go
[1:26:22] into close Act
[1:26:30] closed items
involve personal matters better identif
[1:26:35] individual three lab relations employe
negotiations and one
[1:26:44] information the resolution is that
Council will not provide any no or and
[1:26:52] any opinions until or should an
opinion one or the other
[1:26:59] yeah Council will not provide an opinion
until more information is provided by
[1:27:03] the other level of governments moover in
a second move by Council Buck seconded
[1:27:08] by Council birs Council BS yes Council
Robinson yes councel bwolf yes counc r
[1:27:16] on yes that's carried
[1:27:24] and then in regards to Human Resources I
have motion that Council give staff
[1:27:29] direction to be agreed upon
recommendations within the staff report
[1:27:33] and further the council direct staff
post the CAO click position and create a
[1:27:38] hiring committee that includes a number
of staff from the county neighboring
[1:27:42] municipality and one member of council
or do we want to put all members of
[1:27:47] council I
would um do you want to just C that
[1:27:53] committee yeah
sure go forward we'll figure
[1:28:01] out
just after Committee
[1:28:09] just to one member of
[1:28:14] council and further that expenditures
encourage for professional Financial
[1:28:19] advice and recruitment Support over and
above the expenditures within the 205 24
[1:28:24] budget will be financed from reserves
prior to the end of
[1:28:28] year because Jen is going to find us all
kinds of
[1:28:32] money no
[1:28:36] yet
by by
[1:28:42] coun councel B yes councel Robinson yes
counc Buck
[1:28:48] yes yes yes that's carried bylaw 202
4-29 being a bylaw to confirm the
[1:28:56] proceedings of council for May 21st 2024
be gred first and second time this 21st
[1:29:01] day of May 2024 moved by Council
Robinson seconded by councel R 30 yeah
[1:29:09] is it that should be 30 it should be 30
okay I did up too fast oh 20 2430
[1:29:18] okay you have the move in
second I don't but I think Maria and me
[1:29:25] Maria
[1:29:27] and he read a third time in fing pass
this 24 21st day of May 2024 Council
[1:29:34] burs yes Council Robinson yes councel
buckwell yes counc Shel yes and yes
[1:29:41] that's
carries and then I have a motion that
[1:29:45] this May 21st 2024 regular meeting of
council adjourns at 10:23 p.m move
[1:29:51] councelor Robinson second advice
[1:29:58] yes yes cckw yes
coun yep