1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:07,680 At being after 7 o'clock, the Wednesday, September 23rd, 2026, meeting in the Conservation Commission will come to order. 2 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:10,500 First order of business is pledge of allegiance. 3 00:00:16,410 --> 00:00:21,410 To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. 4 00:00:21,730 --> 00:00:26,370 One of the nations under God, and to the result of liberty and justice for all. 5 00:00:31,780 --> 00:00:40,040 Okay, next up. Approval of minutes, September 1st, 2026, that was a special meeting. 6 00:00:40,940 --> 00:00:47,420 I did review these and I move that we approve them as drafted. 7 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,240 Motion and Discussion? 8 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:51,560 Yeah, I don't know. 9 00:00:53,460 --> 00:00:56,300 So we have. Yeah, we have. Okay. 10 00:00:57,340 --> 00:00:58,880 Motion and a second. 11 00:01:00,020 --> 00:01:06,040 Any word discussion, they're being none of those of they were say aye, opposed and that 12 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:06,680 unanimous. 13 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,160 And we have September 9th, 2026. 14 00:01:13,370 --> 00:01:16,050 I reviewed the minutes and moved to accept them as drafted. 15 00:01:17,530 --> 00:01:23,350 Motion and a second to accept, as drafted, any more discussion, they're being none of 16 00:01:23,350 --> 00:01:28,970 those of they were say aye, opposed and that unanimous, approved both sets. 17 00:01:29,730 --> 00:01:37,170 Next up, Certificate of Compliance, request 2-4-2, 1676-303 Chestnut Street. 18 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:46,620 All we were waiting for was an updated app that planned showing the Stonewall along the 25. 19 00:01:47,620 --> 00:01:55,300 And that has been surveyed on, and we have what we need is actually a little bit forward 20 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:56,060 of the 25. 21 00:01:56,260 --> 00:02:00,480 So we go a little extra protection there, but that's all we were waiting for. 22 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,620 So we're good, and I recommend issuing a full complete certificate compliance. 23 00:02:06,020 --> 00:02:09,220 Erosion control is removed and everything okay. 24 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:10,780 Okay. 25 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,640 Go to the commission. 26 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:12,860 Brad, any questions? 27 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:13,980 Good. 28 00:02:14,020 --> 00:02:14,400 I'm all set. 29 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,580 Okay. 30 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,420 I move that. 31 00:02:19,540 --> 00:02:26,100 You grant the CSE for 2, 4, 2, 16, 76, 3, 3, chestnut, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2. 32 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:27,000 Motion in the second. 33 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,860 Any more discussion? 34 00:02:27,860 --> 00:02:35,220 They're big none of those, all those in favor say aye, opposed to unanimous. 35 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:43,360 Next up, small project, NACC number 381-27, hepatic a drive 36 00:02:46,430 --> 00:02:48,010 may not be how you pronounce that. 37 00:02:52,430 --> 00:02:58,590 So this project falls under category C for sheds of 100 square feet or less. 38 00:02:58,590 --> 00:03:04,650 The applicant proposes to install an 8 by 12 shed outside the 50 foot no build zone. 39 00:03:04,670 --> 00:03:12,430 Question place will replace existing lawn under the shed and the shed will be supported by 40 00:03:12,430 --> 00:03:19,070 Cinderblocks. Conservation staff, we measured to the closest point to the wetland and we confirmed 41 00:03:19,070 --> 00:03:26,770 it's 54 feet. So this is a picture of the area right here where the shed is going to go tucked 42 00:03:26,770 --> 00:03:31,450 in the corner here, pretty straightforward. 43 00:03:31,970 --> 00:03:36,570 I recommend that you find it to qualify as a category C 44 00:03:36,570 --> 00:03:39,310 and approve the project with following conditions 45 00:03:40,150 --> 00:03:44,030 that any grass or sod removed under this footprint 46 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:48,170 be disposed off site or greater than 50 feet from the wetland. 47 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:50,790 And that a post construction inspection 48 00:03:50,790 --> 00:04:02,930 And by conservation staff, be done to verify the shed is in its location and its size as proposed. 49 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:06,010 And I don't feel that erosion controls are necessary. 50 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:09,530 Pretty straightforward. 51 00:04:09,710 --> 00:04:11,130 Any questions from the commission? 52 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:12,970 For me? 53 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:14,130 I'm all set. 54 00:04:14,430 --> 00:04:14,810 Thank you. 55 00:04:14,870 --> 00:04:15,390 No questions? 56 00:04:16,350 --> 00:04:17,230 No questions? 57 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:21,000 All right, I need a motion. 58 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:28,100 I know that we find that this qualifies the category C, and we implement the conditions 59 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:29,540 as to buy any. 60 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,820 Motion and a second to approve. 61 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:33,920 Any more discussion? 62 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:36,580 There are being none of those of favor say aye. 63 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:37,080 Aye. 64 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,000 Opposed? 65 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,860 And that's unanimous. 66 00:04:43,210 --> 00:04:47,230 Okay, we're two our first request to continue. 67 00:04:48,910 --> 00:04:57,610 242, its modification request for a great pond road, DPW boat launch, 242, 1900, request 68 00:04:57,610 --> 00:05:01,710 to continue to October 14th. 69 00:05:04,620 --> 00:05:06,620 Motion in the second, any more discussion? 70 00:05:07,580 --> 00:05:13,360 They're being none of those of favor say aye, Opposed, and that's unanimous. 71 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,520 I'll skip to the second request to continue, that's under Notice of Intent. 72 00:05:19,660 --> 00:05:24,160 This is very street, term-pike street town of Northeanne over the fire station. 73 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Number 2, 4, 2, 19, 30, request to continue to October 14, 20, 26. 74 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:34,280 Second. 75 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:35,860 Motion and a second. 76 00:05:36,460 --> 00:05:38,180 Any discussion from the commission? 77 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,420 They're being none of those of they were say aye. 78 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:41,940 Opposed? 79 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:44,460 that's unanimous. That's continued. 80 00:05:47,250 --> 00:05:49,810 Okay, back up, a request for determination of a 81 00:05:49,810 --> 00:05:53,750 applicability to 16-ray street. 82 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:10,940 Okay, so I'll give a quick overview and we'll 83 00:06:10,940 --> 00:06:16,000 shoot with more cameras with us this evening. I'll give you a rundown and you 84 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,880 can fill any gaps and answer any questions. So the project involves a 85 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,860 a septic system upgrade with a new pump chamber, a septic tank, 86 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,680 force main, and a presby-style leaching field. 87 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,040 The wetland resource area on site is an isolated vegetative wetland, 88 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:40,160 and it's associated 100 foot buffer zone, located at the front of the property. 89 00:06:41,020 --> 00:06:45,760 And there is an off-site wetland that projects its buffer zone onto the rear section of the parcel. 90 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,400 No work is in that buffer zone. 91 00:06:49,260 --> 00:06:56,140 All the work is outside the 50 foot no build zone to the isolated wetland, and it includes 92 00:06:56,140 --> 00:07:03,080 filling and abandoning the existing leach pit, pump and fill and abandon existing septic 93 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,640 tank, install a new septic tank, a pump chamber and a small section of the forest make 94 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,260 that will wrap around the right side of the house. 95 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:17,620 The leech field will be installed at the rear of the house outside all jurisdictional areas. 96 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:25,520 The plan shows a stockpile area outside the 50 construction access routes along the driveway 97 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,160 and the front of the house, and a potential. 98 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:41,800 A majority of the security and the authority of the area. Eurasian controls are proposed along the edge of the driveway and along the 50 foot no build zone, so that the entirety of the work areas are enveloped. 99 00:07:41,940 --> 00:07:50,000 I inspected the wetland delineation and found it to be accurate. The health department has approved this design so they've signed off. 100 00:07:51,260 --> 00:07:55,580 So, if there's anything I miss will you can let me know. 101 00:07:57,260 --> 00:08:01,140 I think Amy explained it as a septic replacement. 102 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:03,940 Initially we were going to be placing in the front yard. 103 00:08:04,380 --> 00:08:06,380 When we got out there we noticed that it looked like a wetland. 104 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,840 Had the wetland sign just come out. 105 00:08:08,020 --> 00:08:09,100 It's nicely wetland. 106 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:13,520 So we're limiting the work to basically the septic tank in a pump chamber 107 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,380 and pumping out back outside of the buffer cell. 108 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:24,140 Questions from the commission, Brad? 109 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,240 I just want to say I'm so happy to see do you watering on here without being asked? 110 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,000 I'm also, I'm also, I'm also, I think, I think, good. 111 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:33,520 No question. 112 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Good. 113 00:08:35,660 --> 00:08:37,060 I have no questions either. 114 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Looks like a good project. 115 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,460 The erosion control inspection is going to be key on this, but there's a lot of disturbance 116 00:08:44,460 --> 00:08:46,940 up front, but Amy's taking care of that. 117 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:54,220 So the recommendation is to issue a negative three determination with the conditions listed 118 00:08:54,220 --> 00:09:01,420 pre-construction inspection, post-construction inspection and I need a motion at this point. 119 00:09:08,260 --> 00:09:10,960 Motion and a second. Any more discussion? 120 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:13,480 Just want to confirm we don't need all the time. 121 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,780 For our, yeah. 122 00:09:15,020 --> 00:09:15,760 We do. 123 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:17,700 Yes, we do. 124 00:09:17,820 --> 00:09:18,560 I don't know if anyone's here. 125 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,240 But thank you very much. 126 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:21,000 That's good. 127 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,160 And she highlighted it more we do. 128 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:24,200 Yeah. 129 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Good one, Matt. 130 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:36,560 Do we have any comments from a butters on 2016 Ray Street RDA, non-answer? 131 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:44,820 So we do have a motion in the second to close negative three with conditions, all those 132 00:09:44,820 --> 00:09:51,120 in favor say aye, Opposed, and that's unanimous, thank you very much. 133 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,640 negative, 134 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:59,010 now moving on to notice of intent, 135 00:10:01,150 --> 00:10:05,050 242-1933-260 Carlton Lane. 136 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:13,040 All right, 137 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:22,160 so just as background, the house was constructed in 1984 under order of 138 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,780 conditions 242-241 and a COC was issued in 1986. 139 00:10:26,780 --> 00:10:30,740 So this was prior to local by-law regulations. 140 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:36,860 Therefore, part of the house and most of the driveway are within the 50 foot, no build zone. 141 00:10:38,020 --> 00:10:44,420 Project involves demolition of the rear deck, stairs, and rear porch. 142 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:54,880 And the proposal is to reconstruct a new slightly larger sunroom, a smaller deck, and reconfigured staircase. 143 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:08,640 The proposed stares will be reconfigured to be further away from the wetland but still be within the 50 foot no build zone and a waiver request has been submitted. 144 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:13,160 I reviewed the wetland delineation and found it to be accurate. 145 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,460 The roads control stockpile area and construction access are shown on the plan. 146 00:11:21,060 --> 00:11:26,420 Maureen hurled with Norse environmental here, with I don't know what else. 147 00:11:26,900 --> 00:11:29,080 So you can introduce everybody, I guess. 148 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,060 This is Pat from Black Dog Builders, the contractor. 149 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:42,240 In just to follow up on Amy's description, we are reducing the work or the square footage within the 50-foot buffer. 150 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,640 trying to improve the overall existing conditions. 151 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,100 We did receive a DEP file number, and there is no comments. 152 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,180 And we're not proposing any grading 153 00:11:54,180 --> 00:11:57,180 or tree removal as part of this project. 154 00:12:05,780 --> 00:12:08,100 So the only work that would need a waiver is 155 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,980 the pretty much the stairs and the little tiny corner of the sun room. 156 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:13,140 Yes. 157 00:12:13,260 --> 00:12:17,960 That is going to be less of a disturbance within it than the existing condition. 158 00:12:18,580 --> 00:12:18,680 Yes. 159 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:38,200 Just sorry just two questions with the news with the old state where the old stairs were what what we sort of under there is it 160 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,320 dirt 161 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:48,380 I believe so Larry under the stairs. Is it just exposed soil and dirt? Yes, is that going to be just kind of lawn afterwards? Yes 162 00:12:48,380 --> 00:12:53,640 We'll stabilize that area. All right, and just in terms of just the location of the new stairs 163 00:12:53,640 --> 00:13:00,180 just kind of looking at the project, was it, was there any consideration to putting those 164 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:06,120 kind of, on the other side of the deck kind of closer to the sunroom, which would have 165 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,060 been out of the 50? 166 00:13:10,110 --> 00:13:13,650 I think there was any, I don't know, I would have to speak for our designer on that. 167 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:20,990 If it's something that would be better, you know, for the committee, it's definitely an option 168 00:13:20,990 --> 00:13:24,050 we could accommodate or you know, look into it for sure. 169 00:13:24,050 --> 00:13:34,290 I think it would be a little bit awkward because, as you would leave the sunroom, that would be where the doors located, so to have the steps directly right there. 170 00:13:36,050 --> 00:13:38,690 A little bit of a hazard if you lose your balance. 171 00:13:40,530 --> 00:13:40,750 Okay. 172 00:13:42,890 --> 00:13:44,270 I think those are my only questions. 173 00:13:47,770 --> 00:13:48,410 Any questions? 174 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:49,150 The courty. 175 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:56,750 There's no plan to extend the concrete pathway from the bottom of the steps to the existing 176 00:13:56,750 --> 00:13:57,450 pathway. 177 00:13:59,530 --> 00:14:03,070 There is no plan that's shown. No. Okay. 178 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:08,930 In obviously, if that gets redesigned, we will be back to the commission. Great. 179 00:14:09,690 --> 00:14:14,130 All right. Also, I have a question. 180 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:20,130 It's about your material stockpile area. 181 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:25,160 If you... 182 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,720 It looks like it's in an awkward spot, if you come up the driveway, 183 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:47,220 it looks like you don't have enough room before that rapid drop off, if you're going around the left side of the house with a small dump truck or whatever machine. 184 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:56,800 And it looks like if you go to the right of the house, you have a septic tank and the subsurface 185 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,020 piping to deal with. 186 00:15:01,230 --> 00:15:04,170 Not sure how that's going to work for you. 187 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:11,190 I think Mr. Sullivan's design was just put it as far away from the resource areas as possible. 188 00:15:13,070 --> 00:15:18,430 We could possibly put it on the existing patio if the commission was open to that location. 189 00:15:21,510 --> 00:15:29,410 You know, it's really minimal work in terms of soil and raising the existing porch in the deck. 190 00:15:30,090 --> 00:15:39,570 Mr. Sullivan's proposal says that we are pretty much going to be tracking it off site as work goes, but that's another alternative. 191 00:15:42,580 --> 00:15:56,040 I'll just, if you're comfortable with where the stockpile area is now, I just wanted to point that out that it may be difficult and anticipate a possible change in case it doesn't work when you get started. 192 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,560 So, if you're good with it now, I'm good with it, too. 193 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,160 You can make it. 194 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:18,360 So, we have the alternative analysis that talks about, you know, 195 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:26,130 previous building that predates the bylaw. 196 00:16:26,810 --> 00:16:28,070 That's certainly true. 197 00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:39,350 I, I reviewed it and I personally don't have any issue with the alternative analysis as presented. 198 00:16:39,970 --> 00:16:46,690 And I just kind of want to touch that base before we, before we move up, a waiver request. 199 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,840 And yes, where before we get public comment, too? 200 00:16:53,780 --> 00:16:56,460 How do you, is it cool and not 50, right? 201 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Not in the 50. 202 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,820 I'm looking at the photo. 203 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,500 We're pretty picture here. 204 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Very nice, by the way. 205 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,220 It looks like there's a concrete landing patio. 206 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:08,380 At the base of the stairs. 207 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:09,660 Extending. 208 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,500 Oh, okay. 209 00:17:17,930 --> 00:17:19,550 It just wasn't reflected on the plans. 210 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:21,920 Yeah. 211 00:17:22,580 --> 00:17:23,160 You're right. 212 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:27,510 I picture it because I didn't have that. 213 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:29,750 Can I just take a quick look at that? 214 00:17:30,710 --> 00:17:31,370 Thank you. 215 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:33,860 Thank you. 216 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:37,860 Thank you. 217 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:38,260 Okay. 218 00:17:38,260 --> 00:17:39,400 Okay, 219 00:17:51,120 --> 00:18:02,340 so the thought is that the commission is open to it that it would be within the existing footprint of the deck that shows. 220 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:06,980 So on the plan it says the existing deck 12 by 15 to be raised. 221 00:18:08,140 --> 00:18:16,560 If we could keep that as a wooden, I guess patio for a lack of a better word, wooden landing. 222 00:18:16,940 --> 00:18:19,300 So it wouldn't extend to where the bottom of the steps are? 223 00:18:20,610 --> 00:18:23,390 Are you mean extend pass the steps? 224 00:18:23,650 --> 00:18:24,070 Pass the steps. 225 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:27,810 Or even to the bottom, according to the red and the picture. 226 00:18:33,660 --> 00:18:35,300 Yeah, this stairs would extend that part. 227 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,880 Just that architectural. 228 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,160 Yeah, it looks like we're getting that area back as well. 229 00:18:56,580 --> 00:18:56,900 Yeah. 230 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,240 This is 231 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:04,400 showing the building. 232 00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:05,440 Oh. 233 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:06,160 Oh. 234 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,840 We're the stairs are landing on the interesting view. 235 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Yeah, actually. 236 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:17,580 Yep. 237 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,280 This cross section, 238 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:37,820 And it shows two by six pressure treated deck frame out beyond with the sonotube here, actually, yeah, I didn't, that's not a structure. 239 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,760 Oh, it's definitely a structure. 240 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:42,840 Yeah. 241 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:44,500 No doubt about that. 242 00:19:45,620 --> 00:19:47,640 On the other side of the stairs and the stairs. 243 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:58,280 All right, so in summary, what we've got here is what's in red here is perfectly acceptable. 244 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:04,080 You're giving us a little bit of air you back in your kind of building which you had before by right. 245 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:11,620 This little patio that we've added on, that's, we're getting a little bit extra here and we don't even 246 00:20:11,620 --> 00:20:20,440 it's not even on the plans yet, so in that would you want that outside of the 50 foot or at least within 247 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,060 the deck would print without a son or two? 248 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,700 With end the deck foot print, I don't think we get to say a whole lot, because you're 249 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:30,980 replacing and kind. 250 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,980 Extending outside of it, which really looks like what you have in the picture, is probably 251 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:39,560 going to be a bit of an issue. 252 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:42,560 Yeah, maybe. 253 00:20:44,780 --> 00:20:47,420 I mean, it's an issue, it's an issue because it's not on the plants. 254 00:20:47,620 --> 00:20:48,200 Yeah, it's an issue. 255 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,560 Yeah, I understand. 256 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,660 It needs to be on a planet. 257 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:53,120 I think we have to continue this anyway. 258 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:53,940 Oh, we do. 259 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:54,600 Yeah. 260 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,400 If because we have an extra week between our meetings and I didn't prepare an order of 261 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,120 conditions so I would screw up the 21 day, I would screw up 262 00:21:09,550 --> 00:21:09,710 the ones. 263 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:11,930 So we couldn't, we couldn't go to the room. 264 00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:13,290 I just didn't. 265 00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:13,590 Anyway. 266 00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:14,770 Okay. 267 00:21:16,090 --> 00:21:17,130 We could vote to approve on it. 268 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:19,010 We just couldn't. 269 00:21:20,010 --> 00:21:20,490 Close. 270 00:21:21,930 --> 00:21:22,630 We can't close. 271 00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:33,410 What I would suggest is this that since we're going to continue it anyway, could you augment 272 00:21:33,410 --> 00:21:49,190 these plans with that low-decking that you have planned and where the sun room is a 273 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,560 little 274 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:16,580 whether you are decreasing the amount of yeah yeah and will the sunroom itself as you say it is slightly a little bit larger that expands on to the existing deck that's completely outside of it is 275 00:22:16,580 --> 00:22:25,660 understood. What I was getting at in a very awkward way was, would you redo the calculation 276 00:22:25,660 --> 00:22:29,960 with that low-decking include? 277 00:22:30,660 --> 00:22:41,460 And and shown on the plan and calculate if you are proposing more or less encroachment into the 50 footnote bill. 278 00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:52,750 Which is to say, probably you don't want to do that. I mean, you wouldn't want to go beyond 279 00:22:55,470 --> 00:22:58,570 footprint that's already there, right? 280 00:22:58,570 --> 00:23:08,370 And then shrinking it away from the 50 like the stairs are doing is it's still in the 50, but it's further away 281 00:23:10,030 --> 00:23:11,550 Which is the positive? 282 00:23:14,010 --> 00:23:20,910 Okay, so from what I hear from the commission if we keep within the existing deck foot print it should be okay 283 00:23:20,910 --> 00:23:24,390 Weeks man beyond that it might be in 284 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:27,960 it. I 285 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,780 We kind of look at it as 286 00:23:29,780 --> 00:23:33,260 Have the right to build back or stop was 287 00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:37,500 If you want to expand, we have to have a conversation. 288 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:38,720 There are not. 289 00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:52,930 I would also like to see in your coming back anyway, in the alternative analysis location of the stairs, please. 290 00:23:53,810 --> 00:23:54,490 Thank you. 291 00:24:00,450 --> 00:24:00,650 Okay. 292 00:24:00,710 --> 00:24:02,090 Some small changes here. 293 00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:04,650 I don't think we're ready to vote on the waiver. 294 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:08,810 Or to close for reasons stated. 295 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:16,690 So, why don't we, you know, I would advise you to continue until it's three weeks from now. 296 00:24:16,970 --> 00:24:25,110 It's October 14th, and I think you're pretty close. 297 00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:29,330 We hopefully can close on that night. 298 00:24:29,710 --> 00:24:29,910 Okay. 299 00:24:30,270 --> 00:24:30,690 Close the energy. 300 00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:32,150 Yeah. 301 00:24:34,670 --> 00:24:34,890 Amy? 302 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:36,430 Oh, just a public hearing. 303 00:24:36,670 --> 00:24:37,570 That's all. 304 00:24:37,650 --> 00:24:37,910 Yeah. 305 00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:39,230 I don't think anyone's here. 306 00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:39,690 Yeah. 307 00:24:39,690 --> 00:24:44,310 Are there any, yeah, are there any, yeah, there remind me three times. 308 00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:46,050 I have to remind myself. 309 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:50,170 Schedule is an issue you might not want to come with a plan A and a B, 310 00:24:50,430 --> 00:24:56,150 like ask for more patio and do we want to reduce it to existing footprint? 311 00:24:58,780 --> 00:25:02,780 Is there any public comment on 260 Carlton Lane? 312 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:04,900 None answer. 313 00:25:09,930 --> 00:25:11,570 Motion and a second to continue. 314 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:13,170 Any more discussion? 315 00:25:13,170 --> 00:25:19,310 They're being none of those in favor say aye, I'm opposed, and that's unanimous. 316 00:25:19,710 --> 00:25:20,570 This stands continued. 317 00:25:21,250 --> 00:25:21,610 Thank you. 318 00:25:23,490 --> 00:25:23,970 Thank you. 319 00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:24,970 Thank you. 320 00:25:25,370 --> 00:25:25,370 Thank 321 00:25:27,740 --> 00:25:28,960 you. 322 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,540 Okay. 323 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:36,300 Next up in forcement order, violation, 449, summer street. 324 00:25:39,630 --> 00:25:50,030 The commission will recall that we issued an enforcement order for clear coming in the 325 00:25:51,150 --> 00:25:59,570 to figure out whether cutting was done in the 25 and to locate the 326 00:25:59,570 --> 00:26:04,750 stumps. So we do have that, but I haven't gotten a chance to get back out 327 00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:12,750 there to verify. And I also want to look now, maybe there's no cutting in the 328 00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:17,740 25, but there could be a whole bunch of stuff that we've done there from the 329 00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:22,480 So that's what I wanted to have by and look at the way online too. 330 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:32,320 So I'm requesting a staff just extra time to do that and if we could continue to the 14th of October, I appreciate it. 331 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:44,480 So we have an enforcement, you put an enforcement letter out and it may not be complete, is that what you're saying? 332 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:59,240 Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, yeah, I just, I want to know, and again, maybe no trees were taken in the 25, but they could have just dumped all the stuff. 333 00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:04,280 Because I, because I, yeah, there was a lot of, yeah, there was just a lot of stuff out there. 334 00:27:04,340 --> 00:27:05,240 And you got to inspect the weather? 335 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:08,740 Yeah, and I'd be just inspect the weather too, so. 336 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Okay, so do we want to approve this? 337 00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:15,960 A man did an enforcement order? 338 00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:17,580 No. 339 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,240 I would be the existing enforcement order in place. 340 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:26,060 And then I can go out and take a look just to verify this plan. 341 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,820 So when you said you wanted to continue, you meant you wanted to continue. 342 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,460 Yeah, to 1014. 343 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:35,020 Sounds good. 344 00:27:35,140 --> 00:27:35,600 I moved it. 345 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,620 We continue to October 14th meeting. 346 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,020 Second. 347 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,860 Motion in the second. 348 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:45,700 to continue the enforcement order for 49 summer street, any more discussion. 349 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,380 They're being none of those of favor say aye. 350 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:50,720 Opposed? 351 00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:52,240 And that's unanimous. 352 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:53,200 That is continued. 353 00:27:57,950 --> 00:28:01,970 Moving on to general, new and old business. 354 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:06,660 Let's tackle this. 355 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800 When Northeans over wetland protection regulations are revisions. 356 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,720 Just a little history. 357 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:22,360 We had a special meeting on this, September 1st, had a very detailed discussion and created 358 00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:29,400 modifications to the Quello's Protection Regulations. 359 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:40,160 We have issued a final draft, red line and straight up draft of the revised regulations, 360 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:51,400 And we may be ready to vote on that, to approve those, to approve that version of the regulations tonight. 361 00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:04,420 So the first question is, do we have, does everyone reviewed the newest version that Amy issued? 362 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,700 I think about a week ago. 363 00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:10,310 Good. Good to go. 364 00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:12,370 Yeah, you did. 365 00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:16,410 Are we in a hurry? This is what we should do. We're just the full of us. 366 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:19,480 Well, we can. 367 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:27,620 I don't think there's any urgency to adopt them if we want to wait for the next meeting 368 00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:28,600 as in three weeks. 369 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,220 I don't know if we can have more people than two. 370 00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:32,920 No, I don't know if we can have more people than two. 371 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,180 No, I don't know if we can have more people than two. 372 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:47,180 Let's see if we have any input from the public on the wetland's protection, modifications as drafted. 373 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,500 Is there a question whether or not we sorry anything that should be getting from the revision? 374 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160 That's where we're going to wait for that. 375 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,020 We can address that now. 376 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,960 Yeah, and I'm really glad the only thing I saw. 377 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,340 I was under your 24, where it's a structure that has a capital as a structure as a structure as a structure should be capitalized throughout the whole. 378 00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:12,760 Yeah, but I mean, you do capitalize that I think throughout. 379 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:19,860 You think I saw a capital as a stroke, but when you say structure or structures, the plural version should be capitalized. 380 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:20,780 Okay, got it. 381 00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:21,980 All right. 382 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:42,700 Yeah, I was going through, and the way the document went was there were many revisions, sort of in the first half, and then it was a section where there wasn't many revisions. 383 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,860 And I just want to make sure we get all the bullets out of there and turn them into out of New Mexico. 384 00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:54,580 I think there were a few lists in there that were not. 385 00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:54,900 Okay. 386 00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:56,580 There were still bulletin. 387 00:30:58,020 --> 00:30:58,280 Probably. 388 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,120 Okay. 389 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:10,040 So these are really just recording issues. 390 00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:24,430 I guess I'd like, you know, should we, should we go ahead and prove it with these modifications? 391 00:31:25,670 --> 00:31:27,130 These intended modifications? 392 00:31:28,410 --> 00:31:31,590 We're waiting for three weeks and doing it again. 393 00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:38,080 I'd recommend doing it now just because of the issue that we had before that if you 394 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,780 already got a group of people that aren't here. 395 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000 And that's a can they not vote on it on the next. 396 00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:43,920 I don't. 397 00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:46,880 I have a look back on who missed what when. 398 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,660 And if I miss one and let's say one of these two guys. 399 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,240 Yeah. 400 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,600 We don't have a quarter. 401 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,480 Oh, you know, thanks for. 402 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:55,400 You're right. 403 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,900 We've also discussed, you know, maybe another run at this in time in the near future. 404 00:32:02,260 --> 00:32:05,560 So if there's anything we need to do now from other folks, I'm sure we can do it then. 405 00:32:05,860 --> 00:32:08,040 So I'm also going to miss the next meeting shots. 406 00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:10,020 Okay. 407 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:11,580 I'm also going to miss the next meeting shots. 408 00:32:11,780 --> 00:32:12,180 Okay. 409 00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:14,240 This is right. 410 00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:17,280 And Jack, you know, just concerning what you're saying about the bullet points. 411 00:32:18,420 --> 00:32:21,740 So in the end, is this going to have no bullet points? 412 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,020 No. 413 00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:28,800 we're going to change the bullets to ABC's help in the right areas like page 2627 probably 414 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,520 had A through Z we have some A, Oh yeah yeah. 415 00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:43,950 And you're right, Matt, there were a few things that actually came out of them and it's 416 00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:50,710 from this September first special meeting that they were follow ups that required some additional 417 00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:57,030 will research for refinement. But for the most part, we went through everything. 418 00:32:59,870 --> 00:33:00,710 And it's 419 00:33:01,790 --> 00:33:08,350 pretty much ready to go. So for instance, on page 17 where it's got these here, those 420 00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:14,430 won't be going. So we need to want to just, you know, identify these, I think. 421 00:33:15,930 --> 00:33:21,530 Yep, so, but for some, yeah, I played the Yad, though, turned to Elf and the Mera. 422 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,880 I know that, yeah, now that I think... 423 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,600 Well, you've got most of them, but I think they're not all of them. 424 00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:29,620 Yeah, I'll get them. 425 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:37,080 Yeah, ages, um, twenty-six, twenty-seven, twenty-eight, twenty-nine, or all bullet points. 426 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:41,300 Yeah, this is, like, psych condition requirements, got it. 427 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:47,100 What about for like 5.1 jack? It's not bullets. It's arrows. That's nice. 428 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,220 And I noticed those two. Those are the same as bullets. 429 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,200 So we're going to have them. Yeah. So under the no-deservant one. 430 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,980 This is 31. 431 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:54,440 Yep. Yep. 432 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:54,660 In here. 433 00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:56,760 There are a lot. 434 00:33:57,540 --> 00:33:58,020 Yeah, I know. 435 00:33:59,260 --> 00:34:01,900 This is when you get into like, what? 436 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,280 When the application requirements. 437 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,260 What's that? 438 00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:06,060 I will do that. 439 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:08,380 Yep. 440 00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:14,900 Okay. 441 00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:15,720 That's easy enough. 442 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:20,740 I guess I move that we have proved and then it's to the moment. 443 00:34:22,220 --> 00:34:23,560 And so, public comment. 444 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,720 Yes, so we have public comment. 445 00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:27,720 No, no, no. 446 00:34:32,110 --> 00:34:34,550 Please, please state your name for public comment. 447 00:34:35,010 --> 00:34:35,350 I'd rather. 448 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:38,650 I'm a Linda Perone 65 met a Woodrow in North and over. 449 00:34:39,530 --> 00:34:43,630 This is with regards to my first question, 450 00:34:44,890 --> 00:34:46,730 with regards to the riverfront map. 451 00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:53,830 So the Riverfront map has been in the middle of revision. 452 00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:58,770 And there was some question at the meeting which 453 00:34:58,770 --> 00:35:03,610 talked about the Riverfront map about two rivers in the southern 454 00:35:03,610 --> 00:35:05,330 part of Northandiver. 455 00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:08,470 The first was the Skog River that was mentioned. 456 00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:14,030 And the second was Emerson Brok, which I apologize, I 457 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:15,330 didn't recall the name. 458 00:35:16,210 --> 00:35:19,810 So there's two bodies of water that aren't on the riverfront map. 459 00:35:20,730 --> 00:35:24,010 And I'd like to ask if that is going to be revised 460 00:35:24,010 --> 00:35:27,330 to include those two bodies of water, particularly 461 00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:29,690 a Skug River, but also Emerson Brooke, which 462 00:35:29,690 --> 00:35:34,590 runs parallel to Boston, Brooke, and then down into Ipswich River. 463 00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:41,350 I think the Skug River is addressed in the new draft. 464 00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:54,000 And I'm referring to the 2026 theme of flood map, which labels each one of those, and I sent Amy 465 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,280 a document, unfortunately, I sent it yesterday, I didn't have time to send it earlier. 466 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:08,700 And in my calculation, almost half of the watershed in Northand over runs to the Ipswich River. 467 00:36:10,220 --> 00:36:19,520 And so I think it's important to make sure that those are on the Riverfront map, each one of those are labeled on the Riverfront map as much as possible. 468 00:36:23,820 --> 00:36:24,120 Thank you. 469 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,220 That's our intent. 470 00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:32,340 All of them, including, I think we have a park or river tributary. 471 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,440 How do we handle revisions to the Riverfront map? 472 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,800 Well, I am hold on. 473 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:45,880 So, I do have, let me just find it. 474 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:08,760 All right, so here's the updated map. 475 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:13,060 It's a little, it's better to read. 476 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,920 It's clearer and we do have the scug. 477 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:16,460 So that's included. 478 00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:24,130 Where's Emerson Brook? 479 00:37:25,230 --> 00:37:29,630 So Emerson, Emerson Brook runs between Boston Brook and Skug River. 480 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,260 It's the wetlands you see to the west of Turnpike Street, as you're going south. And the upper 481 00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:44,320 Emerson Brook actually begins just west of Barry Street, according to the theme of floodmaps. 482 00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:47,460 I know, but is it perennial though? That's the question, 483 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:55,440 try to find it. 484 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:11,440 I'm seeing Boston, Brook. 485 00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:21,250 I see Barry Street. Just across from Barry Street 486 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,300 at the middle of the middle of 487 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:30,700 the 488 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:38,420 direction. Yeah, that's that's metal can order in process handle with lane. Just north of 489 00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:39,000 that. 490 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:51,400 So this. That one. Yeah, so this is like so the USGS. National map is showing. 491 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:59,280 These. As per Nail. They don't have the names on it, but. 492 00:39:01,390 --> 00:39:03,850 The FEMA flood map shows it coming 493 00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:12,310 just east of windkist, it starts just east of that. 494 00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:15,290 Well, the national map shows it was perennial, that's pretty, 495 00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:18,330 of course, so it seems like it should be something that shows up. 496 00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:22,090 Yes, I mean, this is one of the go-to, so. 497 00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:26,800 I mean, I don't, so it's shown as perennial. 498 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:32,260 Yes, it's just to have the name on it. 499 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,960 Like not every perennial stream has a name on the USGS. 500 00:39:41,690 --> 00:39:48,790 Where did you get the name, where did you get the name, Emerson Brooke, Emerson Brooke is on the female flood map? 501 00:39:48,850 --> 00:39:51,450 The 2026 female flood map. 502 00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:58,210 I don't know this is out of line. 503 00:40:00,110 --> 00:40:04,990 I feel it's important, particularly to quantify. 504 00:40:07,490 --> 00:40:12,630 What's in this other part of town, because it does seem to be almost half, if not more, 505 00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:21,450 Then half of the watershed in town, and it all runs to the Ipswich River some way. 506 00:40:21,730 --> 00:40:28,950 So that'd be Mosquito Brook, Fish Brook, Cedar Brook, Rocky Brook, the Skug River, 507 00:40:29,450 --> 00:40:31,490 Emerson Brook, and Boston Brook. 508 00:40:32,570 --> 00:40:37,090 And some of you may recall, we were having some trouble over in our area of town with dumping. 509 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:40,390 So I came to the committee first because we were having that dumping. 510 00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:47,510 And what I found was it was challenging to get response from town about dumping in the area. 511 00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:53,730 I asked the Ipswich River Watershed Association if they could help us because our water flows to the Ipswich River. 512 00:40:54,670 --> 00:40:58,830 And so I became a member of the Ipswich River Watershed Association and I once there last meeting. 513 00:40:59,590 --> 00:41:03,230 And when I went to their meeting at the very end of the meeting they asked for questions. 514 00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:15,470 And I asked, I said, well, here in North Handover, I'm the citizen of North Handover, we have a wonderful, we have our own wonderful water 515 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:24,500 source reservoir, like a Chick-Wick, and throughout the meeting they had talked about drought, and how they were having a hard time with drought. 516 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:33,080 And I said, North Handover has such a great watershed, how come we help you with drought? We have our own reservoir, we have our own source of water. 517 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:41,240 And there's a response that Aaron Bonnicacee said to me was, well, we would like to have some water from Lake Chickwick. 518 00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:53,600 So my impression was that we should be aware of the watershed that's in town, both the Chickwick, Lake watershed, 519 00:41:53,600 --> 00:42:12,100 Now I'm at River Watershed, Park River Watershed in the Ipswich River Watershed, and be aware and to quantify those, so that we know what's in North Handover and what's, you know, the value of the North Handover watersheds. 520 00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:15,020 What did Miss Casey say? 521 00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:23,460 When I asked how we might be able to help with their drought because we have such a great watershed here. 522 00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:36,200 And we have our own her response in front of the, in front of 300, 400 people was, well, we would love to have you send some water from Lake Kachikowak. 523 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:46,380 So that concern me, and that's another reason why I would like to make sure that we know what's in our watersheds to be able to quantify. 524 00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:47,820 Okay. 525 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,080 Sounds like a reasonable request. 526 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:51,900 Does it make sense? 527 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:59,220 You think to put the, put Emerson Brook as a perennial stream on our map of rivers? 528 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,220 Yeah? 529 00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:11,280 Yeah, do you want to? 530 00:43:14,190 --> 00:43:14,870 Good homework. 531 00:43:18,330 --> 00:43:24,770 But we can't, we can't authorize distribution from Lake Cachick Lake. 532 00:43:24,770 --> 00:43:27,330 Oh, I'm simply asking for awareness. 533 00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:28,470 So we're all aware. 534 00:43:28,690 --> 00:43:29,630 That was tongue-in-cheap. 535 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:30,930 Yeah. 536 00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:33,410 Just trying to be clear. 537 00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:33,910 Yeah. 538 00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:34,810 It's part of water. 539 00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:38,170 And it's kind of you right in there. 540 00:43:38,250 --> 00:43:38,690 Yeah. 541 00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:39,010 It's kind of you. 542 00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:39,150 It's kind of you. 543 00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:39,730 It's kind of you. 544 00:43:39,730 --> 00:43:40,290 It's kind of you. 545 00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:41,670 It's kind of you. 546 00:43:42,350 --> 00:43:44,350 That makes perfect sense. 547 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,040 Thank you. 548 00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:47,780 Thank you. 549 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:48,100 Thank you. 550 00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:48,380 Thank you. 551 00:43:54,610 --> 00:43:54,770 Thank you. 552 00:43:54,770 --> 00:43:55,110 Thank you. 553 00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:03,370 Thank you. 554 00:44:03,370 --> 00:44:10,370 And ask that epsilon hat that as a label on this map. 555 00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:12,690 That's some good. 556 00:44:12,690 --> 00:44:13,410 Sounds good. 557 00:44:13,890 --> 00:44:14,090 Yes. 558 00:44:19,810 --> 00:44:21,290 Do we still want to approve? 559 00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:24,730 I think we have a motion in the second. 560 00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:26,290 No, we don't. 561 00:44:26,290 --> 00:44:27,450 No, I didn't finish the motion. 562 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:28,470 You didn't. 563 00:44:28,690 --> 00:44:29,370 No, no, no, no. 564 00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:30,390 That's right. 565 00:44:30,570 --> 00:44:30,810 Okay. 566 00:44:35,970 --> 00:44:41,870 So I move that we approve the modifications to the North End of a Well and Protection Act. 567 00:44:41,870 --> 00:44:45,490 And, uh, with the revisions listed today. 568 00:44:47,770 --> 00:44:50,850 Motion in a second to approve the revised, 569 00:44:51,470 --> 00:44:55,750 wetland protection revisions, regulations, revisions, 570 00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:57,830 uh, any more discussion. 571 00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:59,890 They're being none of those in favor. 572 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,280 Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, aye, 573 00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:06,560 aye, aye, aye, aye. 574 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,360 Excellent. Motion, shall we? 575 00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:10,960 Motion, shall we? 576 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,040 Okay. 577 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:26,960 Last meeting we did discuss, possibility of having a of addressing the performance bonds, 578 00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:30,460 specifically, how do we handle? 579 00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:42,580 Just revisit our policy, which has been cash all the way, and keeping the bond, our bonding 580 00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:53,380 policy consistent, even with town sponsored projects, whenever the town hires a contract 581 00:45:53,380 --> 00:45:56,300 to do the work, which is, I think, almost every time. 582 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:09,800 So we've been kind of mull on around and gathering information and our DPW is a pretty good 583 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,180 source of information, but we thought that it would be good to get a subcommittee together 584 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:23,900 to address this intelligently and recommend to the board maybe a better, more effective, 585 00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:26,660 more 586 00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:33,600 not only town projects, but, you know, consider how we do it all the way for all projects. 587 00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:41,820 So, we are looking for the form of subcommittee. 588 00:46:42,420 --> 00:46:44,480 Our subcommittees have been 589 00:46:46,620 --> 00:46:51,720 three commissioners and one staff member. 590 00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:59,180 So, we could start there and see if we could get, we could get going on that. 591 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:06,720 I would, I would like to volunteer for the, for the bonding subcommittee. 592 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,260 Is what I have this second. 593 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,840 I'm happy to help out. 594 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:23,720 Um, we have three at the first one here on May, also be interested, but I'm happy to all of you here. 595 00:47:23,820 --> 00:47:25,600 Can we roll up your sling earlier on this issue? 596 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,260 Yeah. 597 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,160 Good. 598 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,280 To be clear, yes, I would like to volunteer. 599 00:47:31,340 --> 00:47:31,640 Okay. 600 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,680 I don't want to take some of those spot if somebody else wants to be involved. 601 00:47:35,060 --> 00:47:35,320 Okay. 602 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:36,940 All right. 603 00:47:40,780 --> 00:47:41,840 You're welcome, Sean. 604 00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:50,800 And I wouldn't mind being on the bubble in case one of the other folks, if you'll strongly 605 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,840 about it. 606 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,180 Have further offline discussions happened with the DPW since the last meeting? 607 00:47:58,420 --> 00:47:58,440 No. 608 00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:01,060 And I haven't tried. 609 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:07,900 I did reach out to them a couple of times to try and they seem to be very knowledgeable on what 610 00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:12,140 done on other towns and with municipal projects. 611 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,160 We would have been a weird ask for a representative to be able to say. 612 00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,500 I fully intended to get them into the loop on this. 613 00:48:19,660 --> 00:48:20,320 They have. 614 00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:22,880 We've got to bring them to the table. 615 00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:24,740 That's all I was getting that. 616 00:48:25,060 --> 00:48:25,320 Yeah. 617 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,080 And actually this up committee. 618 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,380 It's kind of a formal acknowledgement of the need that we have to do this. 619 00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:44,140 So I think it gives them more of an incentive to, you know, that we're serious, and if they can help us, they're probably going to benefit too. 620 00:48:44,580 --> 00:48:45,260 Yeah, definitely. 621 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,320 I'm sure they'd be interested in getting a path forward that makes sense. 622 00:48:51,320 --> 00:49:07,340 Yeah, okay, so do we need to vote to form the subcommittee officially and we have three volunteers anyway, so I don't know if we voted on form a subcommittee, but I don't remember. 623 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:10,440 I don't remember either, I don't think so. 624 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:19,980 Actually, yeah, because I was on the hunting subcommittee and I wasn't voted on. 625 00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:23,480 I'll just brow beat me into it, so. 626 00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:27,020 So surprising. 627 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,100 So, okay, so good. 628 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,600 Let it let the minutes show. 629 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:36,920 We have this opportunity and we've got to believe 630 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,280 three members named here. 631 00:49:39,340 --> 00:49:39,620 Okay. 632 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,520 So that's that. 633 00:49:41,660 --> 00:49:42,200 All right. 634 00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:44,600 I will do 635 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:48,740 a round robin, email, 636 00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:52,480 The subcommittee in Jim and John 637 00:49:55,140 --> 00:49:58,440 is trying to identify a first meeting time. 638 00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:10,820 Then the final item on the agenda and under, I guess this would be general business. 639 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,740 Twenty-26, twenty-27 bow hunting dates. 640 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:22,320 I'll read them off, but Amy, you probably want to, you know, talk about what you guys are doing with it. 641 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:32,140 October 5th, November 28th, 2026, January 1, January 30th, 2027, those are both hunting. 642 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,560 That's both hunting season in North and over. 643 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:41,740 Right. So the state, the usual both hunting season is October November. 644 00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:49,700 And the state for some reason decided to add an extra month and add the month of January. 645 00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:55,200 So we will reflect that for our permitting for half mile hill. 646 00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:59,400 So it's just more FYI that we're going to have an extra week. 647 00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:06,880 I mean, it's statewide, so hunters can hunt in January, wherever they are allowed. 648 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,420 So it's more just FYI here, the dates and the two expected. 649 00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:17,940 But we have the hunting permitting for half mile hill online now. 650 00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:24,660 So a couple of hunters took advantage of that process last year, and it went smoothly. 651 00:51:26,020 --> 00:51:34,140 So I mean, they have to go online to get their hunting permits anyway, so it's not like it's a foreign thing for them to do it for ours. 652 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,040 Yes. 653 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:46,960 Three hundred and a week, I believe, and that's what makes you choose their priority weeks, and then we issue accordingly. 654 00:51:48,140 --> 00:51:48,400 Three hundred and a week. 655 00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:52,820 Three hundred and a week. 656 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:53,640 Did I really? 657 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,160 I don't know. 658 00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:57,280 I heard three hundred and a week. 659 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,300 Oh, three hundred and a week. 660 00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,660 Oh, three hundred and a week. 661 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,880 Nothing will be left out there of that's the case. 662 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,520 He's getting in front of the dance. 663 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,360 He's just funny. 664 00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:14,540 He's again he would not go hunting anymore. 665 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,000 Or is that still out? 666 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:22,310 It's connected to town farm. 667 00:52:23,410 --> 00:52:25,730 That one is part of it. 668 00:52:25,730 --> 00:52:27,150 It might be part of town farm. 669 00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:29,010 It is direct connection. 670 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:40,880 Yes, I don't know. I mean, there are houses on, I forget the coldest act to the north, but I don't farm. 671 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,680 Coachman's laying. Coachman's laying? 672 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,420 Yeah, I, because I just can tell my daughter when to stay out of it. 673 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,220 Oh, yeah. 674 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:51,700 Telling farm is open about one thing. 675 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,700 Yeah, I don't know about what he would have bought. Has anything specific? 676 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,720 You got the country code laying, and then. 677 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:16,400 I alerted Windrush that I think was starting October 5th and they've actually got some volunteers doing some stuff. 678 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,080 This week to make sure the signs are in the right spot. 679 00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:22,080 Oh great. 680 00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:23,260 But they're ready for it. 681 00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:30,360 We posted that in the spring, so they wanted to change a few and they're going to do that. 682 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,460 So that's the boat hunting dates. 683 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,520 While we're talking about hunting, we've been very active on the hunting, so I'll 684 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,260 committee this past you for the really for the month. 685 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:59,420 And we just yesterday finalized a list of all the open spaces in town that we have 686 00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:08,860 care and custody of, and we're specifying what kind of hunting we either, we either 687 00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:17,200 approve, you know, allow, or not allowed. So basically it's, you're allowed to hunt under the 688 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:25,720 same hunting laws as the commonwealth. That's full hunting privileges. We've got bow hunting 689 00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:32,960 only, and bow hunting under our special rules for those two parcels, and no hunt. 690 00:54:33,620 --> 00:54:38,160 So those are the four designations that we put in. 691 00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:49,080 We don't have it, we didn't advertise it on the agenda for tonight in time to give proper 692 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,880 public notice. 693 00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,860 So we're not able to vote on that until next meeting. 694 00:54:53,860 --> 00:55:03,580 So we'll do that on October 14th, and Alexis has, she's working on the final copy. 695 00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:07,540 You'll get distributed distribution of that well in advance. 696 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,020 So you have a chance to look at it prior to the meeting and we have three weeks. 697 00:55:14,260 --> 00:55:16,720 I've negative input on content now. 698 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,100 My bad southern right. 699 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,140 So the last thing I see is a adjournment. 700 00:55:25,660 --> 00:55:26,140 Second. 701 00:55:27,140 --> 00:55:28,780 Motion in the second to adjourn. 702 00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:30,100 All those in favor say aye. 703 00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:30,680 Aye. 704 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,480 Opposed. 705 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,220 And that's unanimous. 706 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:33,560 Six.