1 00:00:20,430 --> 00:00:27,250 No minutes tonight. No minutes tonight. We're done on roll. Now we'll get minutes next time. That's a wrong thing. 2 00:00:27,250 --> 00:00:30,270 We're really hearing and up in and with. 3 00:00:30,770 --> 00:00:32,070 That's what we're hearing. 4 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:37,970 Yeah, so Tracy is our industrial pre-treatment officer. 5 00:00:38,210 --> 00:00:40,930 We're required by the state to have industrial pre-treatment program 6 00:00:40,930 --> 00:00:42,850 with us and Plainville. 7 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:48,210 And that's all users who discharging into our wastewater, 8 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:52,010 particularly if they have solvents or different chemicals 9 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:52,730 that they use. 10 00:00:52,850 --> 00:00:54,250 They have to fall into this program. 11 00:00:54,250 --> 00:01:02,650 and adhere to our regulations and limits that we have periodically the EPA reviews that, 12 00:01:02,970 --> 00:01:07,210 which I have nothing to do with, Tracy does all that stuff, and at the end the EPA comes down 13 00:01:07,210 --> 00:01:13,890 with recommendations that they want you to adopt into the regulations. So this is a public hearing 14 00:01:13,890 --> 00:01:21,470 for the regulation updates. Tracy will go over them briefly and you guys can vote on them. 15 00:01:21,470 --> 00:01:25,230 Oh, not Vona, we can just get in trouble by the EPA, but that's a deal. 16 00:01:27,430 --> 00:01:30,850 Oh, you're going to stand up though, and then I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you my money to be a official. 17 00:01:32,070 --> 00:01:36,110 Just so I feel safe. That's my daughter. That's what I think. 18 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:40,330 Yeah, so I had my EPA out of done in July. 19 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:44,810 Most of the changes that came up. No, I can't. 20 00:01:49,330 --> 00:01:57,110 The definitions part of it, those were supposed to be have done in 2014, I think, when 21 00:01:57,110 --> 00:02:02,790 Ty and Bond did our local limit changes for some reason that got missed, so they're 22 00:02:02,790 --> 00:02:08,430 basically just definitions for new sources and significant non-compliance. 23 00:02:10,150 --> 00:02:16,070 I'm not sure why the public use source is now it's five instead of five and a half. 24 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:17,090 We had five and a half. 25 00:02:17,310 --> 00:02:23,890 They needed to be less than five for the pH, not sure why, but they just changed that. 26 00:02:24,750 --> 00:02:34,290 And then, on to the permit itself, on the TTL methods, they just wanted us to put a notation 27 00:02:34,290 --> 00:02:38,690 that the methods that needed to be used were 608, 624 and 625. 28 00:02:40,450 --> 00:02:45,410 And that was it for the sewer ordinance and then we have an enforcement response plan. 29 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:50,470 Again, we just had it to correct the federal citation. 30 00:02:50,830 --> 00:02:56,210 It literally is the, I had, we were missing an eye on the page, so I had an eye. 31 00:02:57,110 --> 00:03:02,750 And then through pouring violations, somewhere along the way, those numbers got mixed up, 32 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:06,470 So it's 45 days, and that's pretty much it. 33 00:03:06,610 --> 00:03:08,550 So page is two and three. 34 00:03:08,850 --> 00:03:13,150 I'll run you guys in the impact of the day where I sent it up here. 35 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:19,910 That's the actual letter that Tracy wrote to EPAV1 after a month, and that actually 36 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:25,690 has the breakdown of the recommendations and how we're addressing that we get in the 37 00:03:25,690 --> 00:03:26,190 all regulations. 38 00:03:26,930 --> 00:03:30,250 How often do these regulations have to be reviewed? 39 00:03:31,450 --> 00:03:35,210 They are only, they review, they do the EPA audits every couple years. 40 00:03:35,290 --> 00:03:36,750 My last one was 2001. 41 00:03:37,730 --> 00:03:39,090 I did 2021, excuse me. 42 00:03:39,950 --> 00:03:41,610 So they like to do it every three or four years. 43 00:03:42,450 --> 00:03:48,070 Right now, the treatment coordinator for the EPA. 44 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:49,670 He is actually retiring. 45 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:54,110 So when they're doing them all this year, they're being a lot more stringent, 46 00:03:54,150 --> 00:03:57,350 paying attention to things that they probably would have overlooked before. 47 00:03:57,410 --> 00:03:57,690 Right. 48 00:03:57,690 --> 00:04:01,510 because they have new people coming on so they're trying to turn out the new people. 49 00:04:02,090 --> 00:04:04,150 EPA is federal government, right? Yes. 50 00:04:04,570 --> 00:04:07,250 Okay, does DEP get involved at all? Nope. 51 00:04:07,950 --> 00:04:09,350 Okay. Thank God. 52 00:04:09,510 --> 00:04:10,130 Thank God. 53 00:04:10,890 --> 00:04:14,270 So in this state, some states are different from this state. 54 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:18,590 EPA has primacy on these district permits, 55 00:04:19,050 --> 00:04:20,430 the Dr. Pre-Triple Program. 56 00:04:20,970 --> 00:04:24,370 On the states, it does get relegated to the state officials 57 00:04:24,370 --> 00:04:28,210 to some degree, but EPA regulations are bare minimum. 58 00:04:28,510 --> 00:04:32,390 I could introduce you to the CEP to put more regulations on, 59 00:04:32,610 --> 00:04:34,150 but then we'll be fast before. 60 00:04:35,210 --> 00:04:36,450 So we're fine in this case. 61 00:04:38,450 --> 00:04:38,970 Okay. 62 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:41,780 All right. 63 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,340 There is a recommendation along here. 64 00:04:44,580 --> 00:04:45,380 One, two, three. 65 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:45,900 For this. 66 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Do any other questions? 67 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:48,060 Two, three, today. 68 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:48,660 And what's this? 69 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:48,980 Yeah. 70 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:49,160 Yeah. 71 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,680 So from going five and a half to five. 72 00:04:50,860 --> 00:04:54,240 Is that adversely affecting anybody that we know? 73 00:04:54,340 --> 00:04:54,780 No. 74 00:04:55,060 --> 00:04:55,400 Okay. No. 75 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:02,680 I mean, the only thing is, with the septage haulers, we usually would do five and a half, 76 00:05:02,820 --> 00:05:09,820 would be the lowest, so now it's going to be five, so that might be a problem with some of the 77 00:05:09,820 --> 00:05:16,180 septage haulers, especially the ones that are the porta-potties because their pH is really low 78 00:05:16,180 --> 00:05:20,500 because of the chemicals that are in the porta-potties, but I don't know how we want to handle that, 79 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:25,860 but we can, yeah, dilute it, I guess, in. 80 00:05:26,260 --> 00:05:28,180 Anybody get any of the questions or anything? 81 00:05:28,340 --> 00:05:31,360 No, all right, okay, make a motion for the recommendation. 82 00:05:31,780 --> 00:05:34,740 Okay, I make a motion that the Board of Public Works 83 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:37,760 wrote to adopt the recommended language changes 84 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,300 to the North Out of our Industrial Pre-Treatment 85 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:43,380 suruse ordinances. 86 00:05:43,780 --> 00:05:48,580 Per the 2026 EPA Pre-Treatment Program 87 00:05:48,580 --> 00:05:58,180 audit recommendations, conducted between July 27th to July 30th of 2020-6. 88 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:13,360 Thank you for coming in. 89 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,140 What's nice meeting you? 90 00:06:18,450 --> 00:06:21,410 I think I just lost my page four. 91 00:06:22,690 --> 00:06:24,600 I just wanted to tell you how to do it. 92 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:39,180 I think I didn't print, it was in your package, but we're going to print this out at a 93 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:46,680 typo on my actual breakdown on this, but basically this is a walls contracting, they did an excellent 94 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,700 job, I mentioned it the last meeting, they completed it all the work there, there were some 95 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:56,060 areas, whereas we come around the corner, red oak way, and some of the 96 00:06:56,060 --> 00:06:58,420 illustrates, we actually went back a little bit further than the 97 00:06:58,420 --> 00:07:01,020 plan showed, because there was some problems with the pavement. 98 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,900 We just wanted to reach back and get it, so we didn't have a 99 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:05,100 pawhole just before our new pavement. 100 00:07:05,860 --> 00:07:11,220 In on red oak way, that came into the intersection at a very steep 101 00:07:11,220 --> 00:07:11,640 angle. 102 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:15,720 So we actually had to build that up a little bit to get a pedestrian 103 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,040 compliant crosswalk there. 104 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,400 So we actually had to put like three inches and mix on there and 105 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,460 that up so we could get the 2% across slope to get that in there and you could actually see 106 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:28,380 that if you go you won't see it because it's all stripe but if you take a good look at it you 107 00:07:28,380 --> 00:07:29,280 can see we had to bury the curve. 108 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:39,180 A little bit in order to get that to make ADA. So that added about 500 ton to the job. So this is a reconciliation 109 00:07:39,180 --> 00:07:43,760 change order. There was a couple of things that didn't get used in the jobs. There were a couple 110 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:50,340 of things that got overused. It all pretty much worked out pluses and minuses. We went a little 111 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:55,240 bit further on curbing just because there was some bad broken pieces that were supposed to be removed 112 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,020 and reset, so you add 34 feet in additional curve 113 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:02,020 and you take out 30 feet or so of removing resets. 114 00:08:02,420 --> 00:08:03,700 So we had a lot of those in the bid, 115 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,720 but this was the one thing that went over 116 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 about 65,000 dollars, you can see on there. 117 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,600 It adds about 9% to the contract, 118 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:14,180 but in a contract that's going as fast as this one did, 119 00:08:14,540 --> 00:08:17,560 I think that's pretty good, 9% within target. 120 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,020 And again, this was partially paid $500,000 out of a grant 121 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:24,200 that we received from the state. 122 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:30,420 I have a question, you know, where the side street, I'm sorry, I don't know if you 123 00:08:30,420 --> 00:08:33,180 get the name, where animal crack is is. 124 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:33,520 Yes. 125 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:36,180 It looks like there's a light sanction there. 126 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,320 There's a crosswalk. 127 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,000 We are going to install the crosswalk for that one. 128 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,300 Okay, is always that going to be a blinking light or something? 129 00:08:44,380 --> 00:08:48,800 That'll be rapid flashing crosswalk, like the one down at the bottom, so it'll be... 130 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,000 I didn't know if it was for a light or what it was. 131 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,900 It's just going to be blinking like for that cross just because the crosswalks sort of mid block coming down 132 00:08:56,900 --> 00:09:01,320 We just want we're going to put something there so people will be able to see it 133 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,900 Okay, we only have one in so we got them put the basin 134 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:10,980 They're kind of read that and you want to read the motion on that I can zoom in a little bit 135 00:09:12,060 --> 00:09:19,900 Make it larger. Okay, there we go. All right, I make a motion that the Board of Public Works recommend approval 136 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:29,560 change order number two with Walsh contracting in the amount of 5,390 dollars. 137 00:09:30,580 --> 00:09:33,260 The landry Avenue is sidewalk improvements. 138 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,200 Questions made in second? Is there any further discussion? 139 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,190 Here and none. All those in favor say aye. 140 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:41,920 Aye. Aye. Opposed? So moved. 141 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,940 And again, I just want to say they did an excellent job in a very short period of time. 142 00:09:46,940 --> 00:09:52,880 And we would done literally like 12 hours before they really hustled the last couple every four of school. 143 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:56,020 Yeah, unlike my update, which I'll go to next. 144 00:09:56,620 --> 00:09:57,760 Which is another story. 145 00:09:57,820 --> 00:10:00,540 Just amazed how fence fast they got that all done. 146 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:07,060 Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, the residents of the test, we did have to shut the road down every single day 147 00:10:07,060 --> 00:10:10,360 to get through that because we had crews different working in different areas. 148 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,780 But they were very responsive. 149 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:17,060 I thought they did a great job with moving resetting the mailboxes for the residents. 150 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,660 We talked to almost every resident on the street to figure it out. 151 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,260 A couple little hiccups all along the way. 152 00:10:22,340 --> 00:10:26,140 A couple things we still going to take care of and punch list items, but for most part, 153 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,820 the projects closed out and it worked out great. 154 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:31,140 Good. 155 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,720 Kelly Boulevard, move it a little slower. 156 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,100 Contractors kind of just getting in there, removing some sidewalk, coming up there. 157 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:46,940 of a meeting tomorrow at one o'clock to go over that and actually get their schedule a lot of 158 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:51,400 them with their schedule is for this year and for next year. So I'll send that out to you guys 159 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:57,680 and I'm going to give it to Gina Monahan so she can post something up on our social media so 160 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:02,880 people have a better idea what's going on there. But the intent again this year is just to get the work done 161 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:10,080 around the North Adelboro side, get the stanchions in, wait for our mass farms to come in for the 162 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,980 weather permitting Dylan, stall that over the winter, so we'll have that done, hopefully sometime 163 00:11:14,980 --> 00:11:20,000 in January for a break. So was Plainville sitting on this thing? Plainville, they're going to wait 164 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,880 for them to come to their side, but they're still working with sturdy hospital on the location of the 165 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,420 poles over there. That's going to be the problem, and you'll see it if you drive through rent them 166 00:11:29,420 --> 00:11:37,400 right now, over near 495. They're going, they're really far along in that project, but those 167 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,700 polls are right where they were two years ago when they started to 168 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:44,500 read polls that haven't been moved yet they just about moved all the 169 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:49,560 others yeah it just that can really take time if they're not motivated and I 170 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:53,960 imagine the state has more poll than we do so that'll be an interesting 171 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,300 part of the project but the contractor only has until next November to get everything 172 00:11:59,300 --> 00:12:05,420 completed so that's that project other than that we're finishing up our 173 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:11,560 we're working on snow in ice, we were doing a project yesterday and today over at the 174 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:17,840 451-LM Street, just because the electrician had to get some stuff in so they could get it hooked up to the building. 175 00:12:19,380 --> 00:12:23,340 Other than that, we're just preparing for winter at this point and closing up all of our projects. 176 00:12:24,020 --> 00:12:31,740 Still selling compost. Probably about, I think I mentioned earlier in the year, we'll probably have about 80 grand year on compost. 177 00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:40,260 We came to the point where we're at a compost, we're going to move our piles so we can use 178 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:42,560 our windroater or a little bit more effectively. 179 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:48,500 We kind of backed up on being able to put more windroas out that we can use because we can 180 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:52,760 only go like 10 feet by five and a half feet and all our windroas are gigantic. 181 00:12:53,100 --> 00:12:58,360 So one of the things that's fall is adding smaller rows in the back side so we can get that 182 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:05,460 and go back and forth on those rows instead of just the six that we have now. 183 00:13:06,460 --> 00:13:10,420 I think it's great because nobody before you would ever thought to do what you're doing down 184 00:13:10,420 --> 00:13:11,000 in now. 185 00:13:12,620 --> 00:13:13,660 So it is going well. 186 00:13:13,780 --> 00:13:15,460 I mean everything's paid for itself. 187 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,340 You know, I've talked to you guys about this. 188 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:18,820 Probably this winner. 189 00:13:19,660 --> 00:13:24,420 I will start approaching the town about possibly transitioning that into an enterprise fund 190 00:13:24,420 --> 00:13:27,800 on or rolling it under solid waste as an enterprise fund, 191 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,100 which most towns have compost falls on the solid waste. 192 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,320 And then those operations would be paid under that. 193 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,720 And that money that we generate would go back into. 194 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,920 So I'm going to program it. 195 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,580 Oh, that makes sense. 196 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:44,060 Yeah, instead of using the general fund for everything, 197 00:13:44,140 --> 00:13:45,280 that's what we use now. 198 00:13:45,620 --> 00:13:47,140 And all the money goes back to it. 199 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:48,540 Again, before it wasn't making any money, 200 00:13:48,660 --> 00:13:49,300 so it didn't make sense. 201 00:13:49,540 --> 00:13:52,540 But now that you can generate revenues out of it, 202 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:56,020 I think it's appropriate to put it under an enterprise. 203 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,600 Where do we stand with the sludge? 204 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:08,320 The sludge, we are out to bid for the materials for the sludge removal for it. 205 00:14:08,540 --> 00:14:13,780 So the way we're bidding it, we did this when we did our major upgrade at the plant in 2012. 206 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,580 We put out to bid the materials itself. 207 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:21,020 Actually, we did this for Adam Stale too for the vessels. 208 00:14:21,020 --> 00:14:27,360 We're buying the equipment ourselves and then we're going to include that in the bid with the contractor to do it. 209 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:35,500 That's just cuts the lead time for how long it takes to get, you know, that equipment in and well that is equipment going in. 210 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:37,660 You can finalize everything else and put out the bid. 211 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:43,140 The contractor can come in and do all their work and they're just waiting on the delivery of those vessels. 212 00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:59,060 And the one other thing, PFAS, I have a meeting tomorrow to finalize Hillman and that'll be submitted to the state on October 3rd for final review and then we'll go out to bid for Hillman PFAS treatment. 213 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,220 Okay, for the replacing the filters on the out-ups, they're all well, right? 214 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,120 Yes, well, no. Actually, that's next Wednesday. 215 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,420 Okay, so it's got to go before the finance committee. 216 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,380 But that's all cash that comes from that. 217 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,660 We have a couple of projects that we have forward there. 218 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:27,340 That we were going to use borrowing and we're going to send the borrowing and use cash for it instead, so that's next Wednesday. 219 00:15:28,140 --> 00:15:32,980 and how it's weft to melt moving along and moving over there. It's moving. I haven't 220 00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:36,140 been over there though. I don't know what the plan is next. It's all. It's been working 221 00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:40,280 over there. Yeah, they're working over there. They're pulling all the stuff in. Before they 222 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:46,260 were putting it all in little, you know, lows, bags and taking it out of there. Now they're 223 00:15:46,260 --> 00:15:52,300 just throwing it in a, you know, big hoppers and they're just hauling it out of there. I think 224 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:57,800 going to Canada now it was going to Michigan last time and now there's shipping it up 225 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,440 to Florida. 226 00:15:59,260 --> 00:16:06,360 They are very expensive and not that has anything really to do with us but the bolter farm, 227 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:12,100 which is really Kurt Toy Property, they're about to do a remediation, the second remediation 228 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:18,960 project on the bolter farm, PCB lagoon that's out there, they did probably 60% of the work 229 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:26,120 last time for like $250,000. Now they're coming back to get literally an area smaller than my office. 230 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,440 That's going to be about $130,000. They're going to go down 10 feet. It's a cash count. 231 00:16:30,660 --> 00:16:37,740 But like 20 by 20, and when you're facing it, it would be easier. When you put a fence, we have 232 00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:41,800 a fence. I don't even like that. That is something that you could have done to just put a fence up and sample. 233 00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:48,460 Not my project. But so, and that only gets it to the point where 234 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,380 the PCBs in the ground below 50 parts per million, 235 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,740 which is a threshold where you don't have to do anything else 236 00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:57,340 except monitors. 237 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:00,420 So when we're done, we're gonna have this little grass field. 238 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:03,260 It won't be a fence around it, but there'll be signs that says, 239 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:06,040 don't dig here, and then you're still gonna have to do periodic 240 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,640 monitoring in the area around that. 241 00:17:10,620 --> 00:17:12,560 So the town doesn't know what they want to do with that 242 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,200 piece of property yet. 243 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,780 What about the Tim Mahu River? 244 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:24,810 Semi-river, we're working towards trying to get permitting on that and we spoke to the gentleman who owns the 245 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,130 the storage place and because we need a staging area and 246 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,500 21 East Street wasn't going to be in I guess so we're probably going to end up taking his nice little pretty area and 247 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:42,450 Putting all the sludge in that for somewhere for it to decant and then take it out of them. We're going to have to redo that 248 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:48,290 that his little swale area over there so our engineers will work with him to get the 249 00:17:48,290 --> 00:17:52,770 agreement on that. So how far are we going down I mean will we starting and we're 250 00:17:52,770 --> 00:18:01,010 only doing from falls pond up through one street that's all that gets done out of 251 00:18:01,730 --> 00:18:05,990 that and we're hoping we get that done for a million and a half just because of the 252 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:10,150 contaminants and the same thing we're going to take it once you get past that we've 253 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:16,330 all of that out before. The town has, so there is not contaminated 254 00:18:16,330 --> 00:18:22,370 sediments upstream of that. And we've done some of that work under a project in 255 00:18:22,370 --> 00:18:27,090 2006 before I got here. We've done it in a couple of spurts over the years with 256 00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:35,110 con-com permission to go into areas behind Fisher Street back in that area, going 257 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:39,830 all the way up to North Washington Street, behind some of the houses, there are Asians. 258 00:18:40,530 --> 00:18:44,790 We've actually dug that out a couple of times over the years, just to clear sediment 259 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:47,210 out of there that's coming in from our basins. 260 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:52,170 We're doing more catch-basing cleaning in those areas, so more sediment doesn't come into 261 00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:58,050 it from us, but again, the state still has all their stuff to ties into that, so we still 262 00:18:58,050 --> 00:18:58,990 have that issue. 263 00:18:59,590 --> 00:19:04,010 is that the problem area that you know mostly is with the 264 00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:10,410 tamal river is that section. For for all the sediment. For sediment coming in 265 00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:14,630 yeah because you've got a lot coming in from the state those kelpons on either 266 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:19,730 side of fisher street those actually have district charges that go into them and 267 00:19:19,730 --> 00:19:24,150 they are like literally seven feet under the sediment. We had to dig like a little 268 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:28,970 basin around it so it could go in fill up and to can't into the field 269 00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:35,530 And so all of those would really, and that's one of the things that our EPA grant, which literally 270 00:19:35,530 --> 00:19:40,410 was supposed to be up this month, but we've been asking them for a year if we could change 271 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:47,130 our approach to work on the falls month, and working on these two detention basins with 272 00:19:47,130 --> 00:19:52,130 the money that we got from Congress for our conclass, and they haven't decided yet whether 273 00:19:52,130 --> 00:19:53,810 or not they're going to let us do it. 274 00:19:53,810 --> 00:19:55,630 And it's literally been a year and a half. 275 00:19:56,550 --> 00:19:58,010 These things do not move quickly. 276 00:19:58,410 --> 00:20:04,650 So her getting her regulations passed is fantastic. That part of the EPA seems to do pretty well when they have to but 277 00:20:06,050 --> 00:20:07,650 The rest of this stuff 278 00:20:07,650 --> 00:20:11,030 You're almost better off going in and dig in it and you know 279 00:20:11,030 --> 00:20:14,150 They concoge chairman one time said to me probably in 2013 280 00:20:14,830 --> 00:20:22,750 Why don't we just get in there machine and dig it all out put in the pile and be like hey EPA? What do we do with it? I should have listened to it 281 00:20:22,750 --> 00:20:27,350 That's cheaper to pay to find it is and you know get the job done 282 00:20:28,370 --> 00:20:31,910 Just be like and at the time we hadn't sampled it so we feel like we didn't know any better 283 00:20:31,910 --> 00:20:34,890 Yeah, you know those ponds back in the 70s 284 00:20:35,490 --> 00:20:41,630 Water should be fit in there all the time to fight upon these to burn them and then yeah, clean air act 285 00:20:41,630 --> 00:20:46,110 They couldn't burn them anymore. Yeah, so they just go over to do it up on down one and the one down the 286 00:20:46,110 --> 00:20:47,050 Both of 287 00:20:47,050 --> 00:20:53,550 Was it back in the 50s man court used to be yeah, that's back in the 50s and early 60s when 288 00:20:54,790 --> 00:21:00,790 What the hell was the committee that oversaw the river and they could take the term out of the committee? 289 00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:04,010 Yeah, the term out of the river committee is going to clean it out all the time. 290 00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:14,350 Which leads me into the question about the storm coming up on the weekend and that type of thing. 291 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:22,770 When we had the storm back in 2023, 9.11, 3.20, 3.20, 3.20 and January of 2024, 292 00:21:23,810 --> 00:21:35,650 You know, 23 was mostly the type of river, you know, East Street, and then the one in 24 in January of 24 was the 7-mile river. 293 00:21:36,610 --> 00:21:42,250 So hopefully the storm won't be where we get six inches of rain in two hours. 294 00:21:42,610 --> 00:21:49,990 Yeah, right now the storm track is that we're going to get, they haven't finalized, maybe they have now since I've been here today. 295 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:56,790 But they were two tracks that they were working one that stays on a little bit further out to see and one where it pushes in a little bit further the coast 296 00:21:56,790 --> 00:21:59,170 You know, we don't get coastal flooding 297 00:21:59,170 --> 00:22:07,750 But this is supposed to be a long duration storm starting Friday night in an early Saturday morning with a light rain and then picking up all 298 00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:09,050 Way through Sunday in the Monday 299 00:22:09,050 --> 00:22:12,010 We do great in those storms. We do really well 300 00:22:12,010 --> 00:22:17,850 You know, we might get isolated because you get basins covered over our guys going to be on tomorrow checking basins 301 00:22:17,850 --> 00:22:19,790 We're open in the dam a little bit 302 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:27,350 talk to Adelboro today, so the falls upon dam will be open just to let the water flow through a couple of days ahead of time 303 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:29,970 and that'll give us some good time because it's not the heavy 304 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:59,980 We're not getting four inches an hour, you know, like we did before 2011. 2000, the one that was down on the south side of town, that was actually almost eight inches in an hour and a half. I mean, that's a storm of record down there. So those storms are system can't keep up with it. But most people skinned. I mean, if you look at most towns that got hit, fall river got hit quite recently with a storm, they just can't take that sort of, you know, they're built for the 25 years storm. 305 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,640 in whatever year they were built or look what happened. 306 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,260 The hundred-year storm now is probably the 400-year storm back in 1950 307 00:23:08,260 --> 00:23:10,080 when a lot of the infrastructure went in. 308 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:16,040 So just the amount of the intensity of storms that we get sometimes are just... 309 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Yeah, there's no drainage system that's going to be able to handle that much rain and such a shadow at a time. 310 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,080 And you can tell, they go right down right afterwards, you know, for the most part, 311 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,280 unless they're covered over, but it does pop up and then pop 312 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,660 back down, even down on the pain road, where they had the worst of it, 313 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,360 it did go away very quickly, you know, within a few hours, but 314 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,000 that doesn't help the residents in the houses. 315 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,440 So we'll be out making sure on all sides of town that everything's 316 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,780 clear, we'll go look at pain road, make sure that that's clear, 317 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,020 that fence lines clear, and that culver going across there. 318 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:52,800 But again, there's only so much you can do. 319 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,660 Well, I'm sure you're familiar with all the hotspots. 320 00:23:56,340 --> 00:24:00,740 Yeah, my guys all are they know exactly where to go with the barricades soon as it starts raining 321 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:05,500 Okay, anything else 322 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,620 Don't count are we doing what I don't that's back over to Steve okay all back and Steve's court 323 00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:15,360 So hopefully we'll have something yeah, too. Okay. Good. Finally 324 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:19,680 We'll have that also 325 00:24:21,340 --> 00:24:26,680 We need to so one of the things we were working on we got a 500 and a 61,000 million grand 326 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,000 for lead service inventory. 327 00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,500 We've been working on that very hard 328 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:32,440 over the last year or so. 329 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,940 We've been going into people's houses 330 00:24:33,940 --> 00:24:35,440 and we've been doing predictive modeling 331 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,860 and we're doing part hole in this week 332 00:24:36,860 --> 00:24:38,680 where they actually suck down on the gafel 333 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840 and determine what's on each side of it 334 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,160 for once that we don't know. 335 00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:46,160 So by the next month we will have a definitive list 336 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,600 for everybody in town theoretically. 337 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:53,000 That has led on either side of their service, 338 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:54,540 the homeowner side of the town side. 339 00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:57,300 And then we have a mandate to remove it. 340 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,500 So the worst area in town is Elwood Street. 341 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,500 The first probably like 10, 15 houses on Elwood Street. 342 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,820 And then coming up root one here, 343 00:25:09,060 --> 00:25:11,420 the North Washington Street root one, 344 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,120 it's the oldest lines in town. 345 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:16,120 They are all lead services. 346 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,580 So my next project, Steve did a preliminary design 347 00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:24,500 for me back in 2016, for that line going up, up, up, 348 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,600 room one, but we're going to have to go up room one. 349 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:34,660 Sooner or later, to replace the main, which is literally like 1890's, 350 00:25:34,660 --> 00:25:37,220 six inch main, that's so taburculated. 351 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,000 You can't even get flow through it, really. 352 00:25:41,220 --> 00:25:44,260 And replace it, we might do two mains on each side. 353 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,340 In the sidewalk, it's in the sidewalk now on one side. 354 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:53,780 Gas company just removed they relocated to the street what their gas line that was a sidewalk so I'm 355 00:25:53,780 --> 00:25:56,640 I'm able to utilize that corridor to go up the street 356 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,660 But that's probably the next water main project that I'm gonna have Steve work on design for 357 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,360 Probably have that to you in the next couple of meetings 358 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,960 And work on that over the next year and then that'll be the next thing we go for for money 359 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,000 But the DEP and EPA has a ton of grant money out there 360 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,020 So if we could get them to pay for that because that's not gonna be cheap 361 00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:19,500 uh... uh... uh... uh... that would be great we'd have them to that in elmwood 362 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:23,200 and probably put in a couple of the other services that are in this area 363 00:26:23,740 --> 00:26:27,380 just to get those done and the intent is to go all the way to the meter 364 00:26:27,380 --> 00:26:31,180 so that we replace and led all the way to the house on anything nothing nothing 365 00:26:31,180 --> 00:26:33,020 sheep anymore anything we touched 366 00:26:33,020 --> 00:26:36,580 the eyes to do services nine hundred ninety-year-old service 367 00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:41,060 uh... from main to curb and another nine hundred dollars main to house that's eighteen 368 00:26:41,060 --> 00:26:42,500 hundred nineteen hundred bucks 369 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:44,380 now it's eight thousand 370 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,140 Maine to curb, you know, it's incredibly expensive. 371 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,540 Eighteen hundred. 372 00:26:51,740 --> 00:26:53,760 What was it, what was it for I am? 373 00:26:54,020 --> 00:26:59,940 Back when I first started in 2001, 2002, Maine to curb was $900, Maine to house was 374 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:05,900 about $1800, and now Maine to curb is about $8,000, and Maine to house is about 10,000. 375 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,880 Maine to house is a little cheaper because you're digging in dirt, or you're pulling it 376 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,840 a lot of times, but if you can't pull it, you're going to dig it, you know, it's eight to 377 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:19,920 grant. We're sorry, we're lying to work. And I have probably 30 of them just on this 378 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,320 road. So it's probably going to be $3,350,000 just in services. And then I get to put 379 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:30,060 the mains in. So it's not going to be cheap. Luckily, we don't have as many as sometimes 380 00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:35,540 have thousands of them. We have hundreds. So we only have a few hundred that we have here. 381 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,480 So it's a program. We're going to start. I'll be going for the grants this year to see if we 382 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,760 and nail that down at least year one 383 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,100 and then they're supposedly going to keep having 384 00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:47,320 great money come out for it. 385 00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:49,640 So hopefully we can get someone else to pay for the bulk 386 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,020 of it anyway. 387 00:27:51,380 --> 00:27:53,420 I'm sure it'll be appreciated. 388 00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:55,000 No, it won't. 389 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:55,380 Nobody cares. 390 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,220 Anyway, that's all I have. 391 00:27:58,260 --> 00:27:59,240 If you guys have anything else, 392 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,780 if you see any particles, we're big into a 393 00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:03,780 particle season trying to get things ready. 394 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,560 We've been milling a lot of roads out. 395 00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:07,020 I think I told you it's the last meeting. 396 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,120 North Ave, Adamsdale Road, we'll be going around 397 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:15,060 of some others and milling out sections of it just to keep the roads together because North 398 00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:21,300 Ave, the gas company has to come in and do not even do that next year. They're doing that 399 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:27,180 two years. The next year is Smith Street that they're going to do. They're going to finish. They 400 00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:33,140 did two ends of Smith Street. They did from North Wash to Fisher and they did from Mount 401 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:37,100 Hope to Earl Mar or to Grant Street. So they get this little section in the middle for whatever 402 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:41,580 they didn't do and now they're coming back to do the metal and then I can pave that's why 403 00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:48,680 I'm waiting on pave and Swiss Street. All right, Kate, make a motion. I make a motion during 404 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:58,120 as a 7, 6, 50, 7. Second. Motion's made in second here is almost in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed. We are adjourned.