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» Ms. Bowkree? >> Here.
» Ms. Heffner? >> Here.
» Mr. Richmond? >> Here.
» Mr. Angart? >> Here.
» Mr. Bozack? >> Here.
» Mr. Sweat? >> I'd like to make a motion to
» excuse Mr. Sweat. Is there a motion or a second?
» I'll second to excuse Mr. Sweat. Any discussion?
» Bowkree. >> Yes.
» Bowkree? >> Yes.
» Ms. Heffner? >> Yes.
» Mr. Richmond? >> Yes.
» Mr. Angart? >> Yes.
» Mr. Bozack? >> Yes.
» Thank you. >> Uh
oh, nobody has any reserves, but let's start with the canine unit contract. I
think that one's going to be kind of a little bit quicker, I think.
Did anybody have some Did everybody get a chance to go look that over? And do
you have some concerns? The only concern that I had with the whole thing I I like
it myself is we are investing quite a bit of money into this program.
Um I think it's very I'm looking forward to this this program
and you hopefully the the effects that I'm hoping it'll have. Um
That being said, the only issue that I have is that if they separate,
it's a dollar. They pay pay a dollar and everything
that we have invested into this program, if something
happens, they pay a dollar and then we're just out. So, if we've got $5,000
a year we're putting into this program, I just think there needs to be some sort
of to the Now, this isn't And here here's the one thing that I'm going to
ask us to really consider is I mean, this is this is the the
residents' money that we're, you know, that we're
we're looking to recover just some of it back possibly. That's the only reserve
that I have with that canine. I mean, we're we're
paying for a vehicle, we're paying for the gas, we're paying for the food,
we're paying for the food, we're paying for We actually take ownership of the of
the dog once once this thing takes place. I'm just concerned that
I mean, if there was something that would have happened in 7 months, they
just That's what >> I have a question. How much are we
paying for the dog itself? >> Uh nothing. It was nothing.
» Okay, so it's coming with the officer. >> Yes, sir.
» Okay. >> It's the training and everything else
that I'm talking about. >> And it says in the Well, more than that,
isn't it? >> Correct. While we're using the dog,
we'll be paying the training and everything else.
» Yes. >> I understand that.
» True. >> I'm just asking them
make it clear. How much did we pay for the dog? We didn't pay anything.
» We didn't pay anything for initial training, either.
» No. >> No, they've all had the
» Now, was it Was it Bob that mentioned that you might be able to answer this?
Um how long
someone, and I believe it was Bob, mentioned that uh there's an age limit
as to when this dog can be retrained with a new owner.
Do you know what that age limit is and then what age she is, the dog?
» Well, I'm glad I get a chance to speak to all of you. This dog uh was with me
at Fayette, and Kelly is the actually the second handler. So, there I've never
seen one where it's gone to a third one. Um the handler that originally had the
dog was terminated for cause. So, that's how Kelly got the dog. So,
this dog has already been but it was at a very young age, 10 11
months. You you get you get into where it's at
now, 2 years old, it's almost impossible. This is a standard contract
that uh both agencies are that have canines.
Um the reason the dollar comes into play, sir, is that we're no longer
liable if the dog does something after it leaves us.
Uh you have to actually pay something for it, and that's usually a dollar.
That's where this contract come from. It's standard language that you use.
Um but the dog to train with somebody else
uh at at its age now, probably not going to happen.
» Right. Um but you These dogs are about 7 years is what the usually 7 8 years is
the max lifespan on them. >> Which is two.
» She's two. >> Aren't I'm sorry.
» No, no, no, sorry, sorry. >> So, what I'm referring to isn't to keep
the dog, guys. I'm referring to recover some of the cost that we have
If somebody gets a bird and says, "You know what? I'm picking up and just
leaving." We're protecting the residents of North
Boulder, just like we would if if we're going to have somebody go out and train
and we're going to ask them to sign an agreement that, "Hey, we're paying for
your training. We're paying for these certain things."
We want a 1-year contract with you that after you're done with your training
that you're at least going to give us a 1-year contract or a 2-year contract or
» We can't We can't We can't make a contract with the dog. So, if you wanted
to do that, why don't we make that contract with the officer?
» That's what Sir, that's what I'm talking about.
» We have a 1-year with her already, guys. >> That's after that's after FTO is over
and she's out out of FTO. >> That's what I'm talking about, Mr.
Bozack. It's exactly that. You think that I'm talking about having a contract
with the dog. >> I'm I'm trying to figure out where
you're going with this because >> It's to protect the citizens'
investment. That's That's what I'm all >> And And I'm all for protecting I know
you are the citizens, too. >> So
» That's not the problem. I'm kind of confused because you were for the dog
when I first got her in town. >> I still am.
Oh, guys, I'm I'm sorry. >> He just doesn't want her Kelly to be
like after 6 months or even 3 weeks and be like, "You know what? This isn't for
me. We're out of here." >> Yes.
» And then you're out.
» Plus, then it sounds like we're protected if we've already got a year
contract. >> We From the time she finishes up FTO,
she has not finished FTO yet. So, it would be a year from that. Um
and I'm not disputing in regards to uh the cost of it. However, you got to
understand one thing that let's say Kelly does leave after the year. Doesn't
mean we can't get our own dog and we still have all the equipment and all
three can continue on down the road. The dog is is only one part of it.
» How how so you've already had you've already been through a canine unit
program you had it up in Fayette. Talk talk to us educate us a little bit
on real quick about cuz I don't want to
drag this video out. Just how effective is it and and what
some of the things that we might be able to expect?
» It depends. You have you usually assign it to someone that stops a lot of
vehicles for traffic violations for cause.
They are trained. Kelly has been trained multiple times with the highway patrol
for drug interdiction looking for indicators for somebody having drugs.
The dog is not trained in marijuana. So that's going to be one of the big
concerns. >> That's legal now, right?
» That is legal. That's why the problem. The the dogs you run into now that are
trained in that if they hit on a car and it's got marijuana and cocaine in it a
defense attorney is going to fight that. Which which which the
marijuana's legal. So that's why when we trained her we did not train her with
marijuana. The program Here's what I I I I told the
trustees in Waterloo Township I told the the Fayette council members the same
thing. You'll never know what it means when somebody's sitting in
Waterloo and saying let's go sell our dope down in North Baltimore and the guy
says nope they're going to bring that dog there. You'll never know what it's
worth. You'll never know what it's worth. That
part you'll never know. >> And you're right but do you believe that
that happens because that's what I've always been told.
» I absolutely believe >> It it prevents people from wanting to do
drugs. >> And I I talked to some of you not all of
you but there were two main drug dealers in Fayette. There were two.
And we were having ODs we were Narcaning people. Methamphetamine
is what the problem is down here it was the problem up there.
We started sniffing cars doing drug interdiction and there were people
posted driving by posting on all over the Fayette web page and within 90 days
both of dealers have moved out. Within 90 days.
That's what it means to you. >> So it's a it's a very good preventative
program. >> It's it's it's PR.
The fact that you're looking for it when we weren't really before. And that gets
out there because dirtballs hang around other dirtballs and that's what gets out
there. >> Well, thank you. Please
so that's why we reserve is we are investing in this program and I want to
make sure that we are protecting our investment. That's
» Are you more comfortable now that you have that year?
» I'm sorry. >> Are you more comfortable now that you
have that year? >> I am. Yes, from from the time. But what
but does that So what about next year? >> Right.
» What about So every year guys we're going to be investing in this.
» Right. The the training is not stopped. And 2000 a month you have to go to
Medina. And that's required.
» The Yeah, and certainly. >> Yes, that's part of having a dog to
train. >> I'm not Yeah, guys I'm not
I support this program 110% but I also support protecting the investment of the
citizens of Vermilion. >> I'm asking you to consider. That's
right. >> How much money have we invested in this
program? >> Not much not nothing at at all right
now. >> Well, we got the car for what a dollar.
» It was Yeah, it was free. >> for a dollar. We got the dog for free.
So our total investment is the hat and pap which is down there for we took it
yesterday. So it's down there so it'll be back in a
week. And and the markings that feel fair?
» I'm talking about the markings on the car.
» Uh that was $200 to paint cuz we kept the regular markings we didn't wrap it
to the black we kept it the way it is. I found a radar that was able to be
repaired for a very minimal amount of money, $60 which is in that car so we
didn't have to spend 2000 on a new one. It has all the cages and everything. And
there'll be a few a little bit more but not more than that. It's the with the
mayor saying the training which you have to go to
twice a month. >> I just want to make sure we're not
starting something that's just going to How long did you guys have the the I'm
just looking for peace of mind myself to make sure that
» We got him from 8 weeks old. >> No no no what saying how long did you
guys have the program in back, the K9? >> Well, you got to remember
» I mean, did you guys have it for 1 year, 2 years, 3
» A year and a half. >> A year and a half.
» But then you got to remember the money ran out and they laid six of us off.
» Sure. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Would you
» Would it Would it Oh, absolutely would have continued.
» Yes. And it was successful. >> Yes. It It It did what I needed it to do
and get the drug dealers out. Did it work? Absolutely 100% worked.
» Um um um Yeah, but that 1 year it makes me a whole lot more
» And if we if if if council so chooses, I mean, I could propose 2 year, whatever
you think is is worthwhile. I've already got her on a year which hasn't started
because she's got to clear FTO and that should be shortly, correct? Yeah. She's
out again tonight. So, she was okay with the 1 year uh and the food I think she's
paying for that cuz she wants the dog to have a certain type of food. We would
pay for uh vet which she has almost all of her
shots now. That would be catastrophic if catastrophic she's stabbed or shot or
something like that. >> Did her a vest?
» Uh we're going to get her a vest. We have purchased some and there's also a
vest that interests which gets it for free. Um so and I can also put it out
there to other uh departments if they have an extra vest for her. That's what
I did in in Fayetteville we got ours, but we have the money already invested
for the vest, so that's not an issue. Um the main expense was the hot dog that
was over there right now which we'll be getting back here
uh shortly and then we will be able to get started. Um her wages which
we have to pay her regardless. Uh the training would be twice a month for 8
hours over Medina. Uh the dog has to be re-certified every
year and to do that you have to train. Dogs have to train. And you've seen her.
I know she's come once. Uh
» What should we be expecting? So, we we we've we've brought on both handlers.
» Yes. >> Right?
» The one has not even started FTO yet. >> Correct.
» Because we're I've tried to watch the weather
» What's What's FTO? >> Just field training.
» Yep, that's what I thought. Field training. So,
how come they have to go through field training?
» Because when you move from one county to another, it's completely different in
the court system and the papers. What we have to do, our reporting system is
different than it is where Dan is in North Olmsted. Where we were in Fayette,
we had to learn a whole new system. You have to learn the roads,
the courts, um what your problems are, where where where your problem areas,
who's your drug people. Uh I mean it's it's a gamut how to include evidence in
our property room. Uh communications, radio traffic is
different in each county. Uh so it's it it it you have to go
through your field training with every officer. Number one, we're liable if
they do something stupid if we don't go put them through field training.
» So >> Which is what we tried to do. We have to
do basically. >> So we we believe this is going to be a
very effective program for >> I think it'll be very effective to what
we're trying to get across, what we're trying to do here in North Olmsted.
» Chief, you've been here for 4 months. >> About 6 months.
» 6 months. >> Thank you.
» Coming up on 6 months. >> How have you
What is our drug situation in the Village of North Olmsted? What is our
What What What have you >> Okay.
» What have you assessed so far? >> I think there's a drug issue here. And I
want all of you to remember one thing. We're going to talk about it next with
the drug contract. Why is the sheriff willing to spend his only one drug
detective to come down here and spend the majority of their time if you don't
have a drug problem or he doesn't think he has a drug problem. Why would he do
it? He could It's like It's like going
fishing. >> second employee.
» It's like It's like going going fishing. He doesn't have to do anything down
here. You're not required to do anything in the Village of North Olmsted, Mark.
The ORC says it's our responsibility to police this village, not the sheriff.
The sheriff's responsible for the courts and the jail. That's it. He doesn't have
to have a road patrol either. That's what the Ohio Revised Code says.
» So do we have the capabilities of taking care with the with the people that we
have Do we have the capabilities of taking care of So Is there anything else
on the K9 that anybody has mentioned? to >> you had mentioned you could talk to her
about two years. Do you think she'd be open to that?
» I would have to talk to her about that. I know it was open for a year and she's
already signed that. From the end of her FTO and she's not through FTO.
So, I I don't have any problem with it. >> Maybe you ask the council if she is
» It won't last. >> Does council want to do a formal motion
to approve this K9 contract as written? >> Well, let's remember one thing real
quick. If the dog gets hurt or has cancer and she can't perform anymore,
that's the then that's that's one of the reasons why the handler gets the dog for
a dollar. When When the dog retires or it has medical issue or that's why we no
longer have ownership and responsibility for it.
So, that's another reason why that is put in there cuz that does happen.
» It gets ugly. >> It does get ugly.
» If you If you take the dog from the handler or is that what you're saying?
» At the end of term when when people are like, "No, you can't take the dog. It's
our property." If If it's not. You know, the dog bonds with the owner.
» It's It's her dog. It's her dog. It's her dog.
And her family, she has kids and then >> It's It's unfair to think that the dog
should be taken from the handler. I I always thought it wasn't a I thought
once it was trained with the handler, that's where it stayed.
» It depends on the age. >> So, that's what I was going to ask. So,
if the dog's two years old >> But it's already been retrained.
» No, no, I'm I'm all right. So, what's the expectation of what What's the
expectation of life expectancy of a canine?
» Seven years. >> Seven years.
» You got to remember jumping in and out of those cars and wears on her hips and
then seeing where those getting in and out of our car.
But that's the average is what? Seven seven years. You have to have them at
all times. Sure. >> So, when we're talking about
you know, health and safety and all that stuff and
the dog we should we get at least seven eight years of
» We can expect seven eight years if she decides to stay here.
But the dog doesn't cost anything. We got the dog as a puppy which is what
the program is and we trained The The cost is
getting the canine handler over there for training.
» Yeah. There's cost.
» Oh, yeah. >> Yes. There's
extra >> Absolutely.
» There's extra perks for her, which you rightfully so.
» Yeah. >> It's I mean that's what those are the
things that I want to protect. >> Yeah, and you got to pay a couple hours
a week for her to take care and maintenance of the dog. That's what's
called the Garcia rule. So, you call you have to feed them, she have to I mean
water, bathe them, everything else and it takes a little bit of time. So, yeah.
» Sure. Um so, is there anything else that So, yeah, would you go back and see if
we can get like a 2-year agreement? That would be wonderful. And And then would
does that pertain to her and the other guy? What's his name?
» Uh I have not had any He has signed a year contract as well.
But he has not even started FTO cuz we wanted to get Kelly through it first.
He's the main handler. He has trained with her and certified with her as well.
So, both of them And I'll give you an example, let's say she
has surgery, is off for 6 weeks. He can bring the dog back over here and he can
continue the program cuz he's certified with her.
» So, then he'll be able to work. >> That's exactly what I'm talking
» So, I've never had that ability at any other place. Usually it's one handler
that's assigned. We have it because they came with me and the dual leads were
we'll be able to have two people to work.
» When is When is the expectation of the FTO training to be done?
» Uh Kelly should be done. Tom? >> I any day. Yeah, she I think we're just
basically waiting on the car. >> Yeah, we're just That's what we're
waiting >> start going on her own.
» Yeah, we've been waiting for the vehicle, which finally came in and uh
we took it down there yesterday and we took
» an in-car where she rides with somebody and then we do a shadow program where
she's out in the car by herself, but the officer that is FTO-ing is right behind
her. Or in the area to get out and help her
and and stuff like that. So, as soon as she
gets a car by herself
because she's been coming out with whenever somebody's been here.
» How many How many um hours a week should we
About 20? >> Uh
let me check on that. We got to
the budget we got to watch the budget, sir. For our our part-time and to make
sure that we have enough money till the end of the year.
Uh I would think she'd be out here at least two nights minimum.
And the main nights you can check track some of it, but Thursday, Friday,
Saturday time frame is probably what we're looking for.
» Yeah. >> Yeah, cuz they're if they're moving it
from Toledo down here from what tips we've had nothing Tom will confirm that
and to certain locations here in town is
usually Thursday or Friday night for weekend sales.
So, we want to target that particular time.
» Any other questions on the canine? All right, let's move on to the drug
enforcement agreement. Can you go I know one of the concerns
that we had is we talked about was it is kind of a training It is a
training program. It's identified as a training program.
We're going to work We're talking about wanting to maybe
have other officers that are interested so we can do a sign-up or something like
that that that
so that like say Mr. Buckley was our first candidate to go this he would do
it for a year and bring that expertise back. We would send another officer to
get trained in the same field same training that they would bring that
expertise back. You know what I'm saying?
It's not just a one one person one
» That's going to be very difficult. >> One year is not a good cycle.
» It It takes sometimes it takes a year to build a case, but you got to understand
drugs is a little bit different than everything else cuz you have
confidential informants you work with and you willing to work with me and then
I bring somebody else in they may not work with after if drug investigations
are a lot different than than other criminal investigations because you got
to build your case usually through confidential informants. And they they
trust who their handler is I hate to use that word, but
it's true. Some of these cases are going to take
could take a year to build. >> What's your thought process on how long
this this this >> What is What is reasonable? And I I will
give you an example and I think I appreciate that question.
The city of Baltimore, you could be a detective for 5 years during your
25-year career. It could be 1 year, go back to the road, and the next year be a
detective. Usually 5 years. Now, in this particular case, I think three is
reasonable. I think three is reasonable. Um give
them the time to build their expertise at it.
You can bring somebody in slowly during that time period to transfer off CIs if
you want to. But that will give you time to find out whether they're this is this
successful or not. Um I think that is that is reasonable a reasonable period
of time. I've been on multiple task forces.
» You think that three three years per per individual? Cuz if we continue this,
right, year after year three years What's what Do you think
that after three years of this Well, I mean, this is a
» That would be a That would be a fair question.
» Some of the One of the concerns is once an officer's done here, they go to work
somewhere else. So, we're really not we're
getting maybe the biggest bang for the buck that
we would expect here in North Baltimore from this program. Well, because because
the the training that they're going to receive here is going to make them very
valuable in extreme. >> That word I would use extreme. That's
why you they have to have a contract. They have to stay here for a certain
period of time. >> Yes.
And what would you recommend that be? And what would you recommend that
» Three years. Three years. Because And the mayor and I have talked about this
very issue, and I've watched it many times, folks, and and I've been on
state, local, and federal task forces. Somebody gets trained, and and the other
side sees, "Hey, man, this guy's pretty good." What do they do? "Hey, come work
for me for $8 more an hour." Come work for me.
» That's all we're about. >> And and that's what I'm concerned about
because I've worked in small towns via and that's why I've had these people
sign contracts and I've been employed since I've been here the full-time and
as well as part-time because we cannot afford the turnover is the most
expensive thing you have. Yes. Same way in the Village of Whitehouse, police
officers and firefighters that is the most expensive thing that you have and
you have to prevent it either by environment, pay, or have them sign.
» So so yeah, that's exactly right but the concern is yes, he's going to be in the
program or he or she will be in the program for let's say 3 years.
Right? But what do we get after that is what I'm talking about. I'm not talking
about 3 years that we're paying and investing in them mainly, you know,
invest if the this body decides to to go with this.
That That That's >> You get 3 years of drug expertise and
arrests and investigations here in the Village of Northwood.
» And then what do we get after that is what I'm talking
» I would never sign a contract with you more than 3 years.
Never. I don't care where I'm at. >> 3 years is a long time to move on.
» I'm guaranteeing you to stay here 3 years, provide my services and expertise
because you're paying for it. Absolutely. But you're getting the 3
years of service. Now, you start getting I I've seen one for 5
years but that was a canine handler. And that's where they actually put
$16,000 for the dog and everything else. >> So
» So that's totally a different scenario here.
» I guess what I listen to listen to you talk about how good the
drug dog did. And pay yeah.
Why wouldn't we give the drug dog a chance to work here in town before we
try to do something like this? >> So I mean that would It's a It's a big
investment. I mean >> It It is a big investment.
» And I just think why wouldn't you give the
drug dog a chance cuz listen to you talking about you got drug dealers
falling out. >> Yeah.
» Why wouldn't we give Why wouldn't we just I mean we we already invested in
the drug dog. >> Great question.
» But I asked that like that we take baby steps, right? Do invest in that. See how
it goes. But we can't even really pull the trigger on this until next year
because of finances anyhow. So, it would be time for I mean, guys, there's no
money in the police department right now. I mean, other than what you guys
have have put in there by appropriation. So,
I don't think this is anything that we should be
rolling out until the new budget year in my opinion.
Mr. Mayor, that's what I was saying at the last meeting.
Let's take baby steps to see if we can feed the problem up if there is truly a
drug problem. >> Is the sheriff willing to wait till the
first of the year? >> The sheriff called me before this
meeting to know what the update was cuz he hadn't heard anything. He literally
called me at I could say that. >> What what was the last part of that? You
couldn't see what? >> Cuz he he he wants to know what's going
on. He thinks this is this is drug running for too long.
» And we did. We started this, you know, months ago. So
» Even before I got here. >> We were talking about this in February.
» We never committed to anything. >> No, but I think we were all interested
in Sure, seeing this, you know, brought, you know, to to to
to see if this program would work for us. My question my concern is when the
sheriff was here, he had told us that two things. One, that if there were any
there was any drug money, that would be split 50/50. And I don't believe that's
in the contract. And two, um
the amount of time that they're going to spend here in North Baltimore. We want
to make sure and I understand that if there are any case in Oregon, you know,
that could take a couple months and they're not going to be here. But then
they need to come here afterwards and spend time here. And that's not in the
contract. And that was something that the sheriff basically told us,
guaranteed us that would happen. I like things in writing to make sure
that they're covered. Do you think that's something you should get?
» Okay, I'd like to answer your question first and then I'll connect it to the
other part. Um the reason why I think a dual
approach is better than just the dog itself, the tips we're going to get from
the informants from working the drugs is where you start with your K9 as well.
It's kind of a two-pronged approach to it because when you have somebody
specifically working drugs, they're the ones that are going to get the tips that
they can tell the K9 handler. They can work together and stop vehicles for
traffic violations, sniff those cars. So, it's kind of a dual-pronged approach
to that. That's my answer to you. Now, to
Here's the question and the and answer to yours.
Uh
He, the sheriff, and I'm not speaking as the sheriff because I don't know what
his feeling is. I was never not involved in this from the beginning. He's willing
to come down here and help us. We have to be a law and go help him,
too. It should be a 50/50 road.
» So, why why isn't none of these other, like like you said, if they're working
on a case in North Baltimore, why isn't he
have the have somebody from North Baltimore who
can afford it a little bit more than what little North Baltimore can.
That's why why why pick North Baltimore and if we're not focusing
pretty much, I ain't going to say 100%, but
in North Baltimore. I mean, it's >> Cuz he thinks North Baltimore is his
biggest problem in this county. Why else would
>> I don't I don't agree with that. That's
that I don't know. Show me the data that You you just said that on I'd like to
see the data that shows that. If it doesn't
» That's what he believes. >> And that doesn't necessarily
» to see the data that shows that. >> It has to be information that he gets,
intelligence information that he gets, intelligence information OSP is giving
to him. >> I don't know what he's information he's
getting. After seeing this contract and with no accountability, I mean, it's
just pretty much the the citizens of North Baltimore are paying for
an employee that's out there doing what? Right? So, I So, because of that reason
with no accountability, there's a lot of unanswered questions.
I'm going with the drug dog. I'm going to say on record, I do not support
» You have to go where the case takes you. You have to go where the case takes you.
Sitting here putting something in writing is impossible.
Because how do you know the people from North Baltimore and all these places are
running dope here? >> I'm not saying that, you know, okay, you
go up there, but I think we need something that says, "Yes, we we intend
to spend just as much time in North Baltimore."
» I have no problem with that. I think you're absolutely correct. I am.
What he will sign is something else. What we want to put it on.
» I think that's why I'm asking him face-to-face.
We need >> We need to get it down here.
» Chief, Chief thing I'm like, yes, my concern is we we have a police force
here in the Village of North Baltimore that should be doing this. And I would
hope that we're doing it. Right? I mean, don't lose sight that
as much as I appreciate what you're talking about as far as the sheriff
saying, "Hey, he don't have to come down here, but he's willing to come down
here." We're paying for it. He's not willing to
come down here. We're paying for that by putting an employee, an additional
employee, on that staff. That's That's an investment for the citizens of North
Baltimore. Let me say it. But again, it to to Mr. Ingard's point is why wouldn't
we start one program, see how it works out because we do have a police force
that cost the citizens of North Baltimore over a million dollars a year.
Right? And And if we've got a drug problem, as you're saying the sheriff
says it that North Baltimore is the biggest drug problem, his biggest drug
problem in Wood County, right? That's That's what you said. And
» I didn't say I said he may possibly believe that cuz he's willing
to put this information or put this amount of money into it from him. He has
one drug person and they're willing to spend the majority of their time down
here. That has to tell you something. It has to tell you something.
» So, are we capable of with with the right information and with with with
with our canine unit, are we capable of >> We can attack the problem.
» Yes. >> Can Can we solve the problem?
More manpower you have, you throw at anything, the better it is. And I'm sure
Richard will tell you that from his time, as well as anybody else, no matter
what you do. Um if there's questions about an
agreement, then don't do it. I've said that from the beginning. This is not a
money maker. It could make you a [ __ ] ton of money. It could make It could be
a loser. But, what we're trying to do is attack
the drug issue here. >> In North Baltimore, right? With with
with our resources that we have. >> Well, we have to help him. If he's
helping us then >> you got to understand, Mayor, is it's
not just in North Baltimore. North Baltimore is connected to Momence,
connected to Oregon, and connected to all the other ones. Is that a correct
statement? It it's you know >> say the biggest personal bringing drug
in here is from Momence, Illinois. >> That was a statement to me. That was the
That was the statement to me. Yes, but we're asking the residents of North
Baltimore >> Would you just
» I I made a statement and I asked him to confirm it. So, whether it was correct
or not. >> So, I agree with that, right? But, why
we're we're expecting the citizens of North Baltimore to pay for somebody to
go up and deal with it in Momence, deal with it in Oregon, and deal with it
» That that officer has expertise training that can then come
back here and help clean up North Baltimore.
» That's >> And this this is where
where I would like Just a minute, please. I would like the sheriff to
address the two concerns that I had to see if he is willing to put something in
in the contract. Would you guys agree with that that we need that? Um that we
need to know that we're going to have some quality time spent in North
Baltimore. And if there is um any
a drug bust that relates to some sort of financial
amount, we get 50% of that because that's what he stated when he was here.
Those are the only my concerns. Otherwise, I'm in full support of it. I
don't know what everybody else >> I think we're all on the same page. We
all need to work together and I have no issue
uh with what you guys are comfortable with putting in in a contract. If you
want to do that, so that's that's not an issue um because
he has to agree to We can sit here and talk till we're blue in the face. But,
we need to know what we want in that contract and if he won't sign it, that's
on him. That's not on us. >> Correct.
» Are Are Are we capable of dealing with drugs in the village of North Baltimore
with the with with with what we have? With with the K9
» At times, yes. And let me explain why. >> What was the last time we had a drug
bust in the Village of North Baltimore? >> Uh not too long ago.
» We just had one? >> Uh I'd have to go look at the records,
but we've We're getting methamphetamines. We're getting tips for
drug activity uh here. So, the answer to that is we
get would be a word I would use frequently
uh intelligence about drug activity. I'm not going to say where.
Uh there's a couple locations that are here.
Um >> So, we know about them.
» We know about them. Um
but when you only have one person out that's responding to calls, it's awful
hard for them to do drug interdiction. It's awful hard for them to do drug
investigations when you're in uniform and marked cars. It's all very
difficult. And I'll give you an example.
I was on a task force. It was a federal task force, local task force regarding
uh counterfeit money. It was with the US Secret Service.
Uh and I was a detective in Rossford at the time. And they were dropping bogus
money all over Northwest Ohio. So, part of this task force, it just so
happened these three idiots came to the Wendy's in Rossford and dropped their
bad money. So, stopped the car. We got there, uh
started investigation. They called me. I came out cuz I was part of the task
force. Interviewed, uh was able to help convince these people it's the best way
to go. Uh they were younger guys and led to a search warrant here at Bowling
Green State University where over $100,000 was found.
And I'm from Rossford. So, I My investigation led me all the way to
Bowling Green. You don't know where they're going to
take you. So, it's It's going to be hard.
Now, when I talked to them and met with them, they have software that can tell
you exactly how much time they're working on North Baltimore cases. They
have that They have that capability to do that.
» Who does? >> The The Sheriff's Office does. Sheriff's
Office does. They have the the capability to tell you exactly
percentage of time they're spending where and when.
Because I asked that specific They could question, "How do we know? How do we
know what they're doing and the cases they're working?"
They want to work this area. They we to work this area for a reason.
That's whatever you guys want in the contract, I'm not the guy to talk to.
» We'll sit down and we'll we'll sit down and
we'll talk to him. >> Well, let me ask you this, too. So, they
have the capability of knowing where everybody is. And if I'm not mistaken on
this contract, don't we have to only give 30 days notice and we can pull out?
» I think so. >> So, if they give us an update every
month and let us know how much time they're spending here, I don't even know
if it needs to be in the contract if we're not happy with that and they're
not willing to adjust it, we can pull the program.
» The only thing that messes with that is if we hire a new officer, now we have an
extra officer with >> But we have part-time officers, don't
we, that we could fill in for those until we see how this kind of goes and
» Well, we have somebody got to remember we have an officer off till the end of
September on maternity leave. So, we're filling that because it I I do
not want to do that. >> With your part-timers, you're filling
that right now. >> Well, you got to remember half of the
part-timers work full-time jobs. So, there's only certain days of week
and hours they can work. >> I guess my question is is can we have to
replace that full-time officer right away? Is that your goal to do that right
away? Or can we kind of see how this program
goes and proceed
» We can do whatever council would choose. >> Well, I'm asking you. I don't want to
ask the council for your opinion for >> It is a lot easier to hire somebody
full-time, guys, because everybody's looking for a
full-time job. Everybody that's working part-time in law enforcement, and
there's very few, it's like finding a unicorn. Um
and they're very difficult to find because people There's all these jobs
that are open out there for law enforcement.
Um I'm I'm willing to do whatever advise me to do. If we can work that
out, that's something. Uh my only concern is that we've got
Jordan through an FTO because we were going to hire her full-time and all of
this has been been been been drug out uh that she will go someplace else. She
signed a 3-year contract with us full-time. She's not full-time, so to
me, she's not in that contract, so she can go wherever she wants.
She can go wherever she wants. And if that's what we want to do, and I
have no problem with that. We can try to >> When
» We made the motion to hire her. It wasn't full-time.
» It was actually full-time. >> It was full-time.
» Yeah, and then we changed it to part-time.
» Who changed it? >> Well, the council voted on it and
changed it. >> Huh? No.
» Josh >> No.
» I believe so. >> We changed We changed the status. Show
me those minutes. >> We changed the status because we didn't
need another full-time. And so this went into effect.
» So we So we made a motion. We did that by
» By a vote. >> By a vote?
» Yes. Yes, sir. >> Well, I don't remember that. Do you guys
remember that? >> Yes.
» Really? So we we hired Jordan full-time and then
turned around >> We were going to hire her full-time
because I didn't think we would last this long. And then when she could
start, we didn't have the position, so we hired
her part-time so she could do that. But the intent was for her to hire her
full-time when the officer went down the drug task force.
» I positively made the motion to hire her.
» 100%. That we Yeah. That we did.
» did. >> And then we turned around and said,
"Wait a minute." >> Yeah.
» Pump the brakes and >> Yes, because we can't decide on whether
we want to do this or not. >> Yeah.
It kept being drug out. >> I guess my point on the whole thing
is you know, North Baltimore has been
battling a drug problem for the last 60 years.
And nobody's ever done anything about it.
We've let it run rampant and you know, one of
So we take a financial hit if this doesn't work out. At least we're taking
a shot and trying
to actually put a stop to it and work towards making North Baltimore better.
It's never been done before. It It really hasn't. It just changes.
The people change. >> So you can cut the end off a garden hose
and throw it away, but the water's still coming out.
And that's what this task force is all about, is to follow the snake to the end
of the tail. To take it out.
So that way the garden hose doesn't keep running out of North Baltimore.
Well, the mayor The mayor had it when he said what he had to say.
» No, you you you got Rossville there a little bit. What's that?
» What what I had with the mayor and and and and Tim when we had our meeting, the
mayor brought up a a great point which I think needs to be in this contract if
you want to move forward, is the ability for the emergency circumstances that we
have to have a company call our officer back. If we have an officer get hurt or
two get sick or two get shot, we can't wait 30 days for that.
We have to have an emergency recall. >> We we have no control over the overtime.
We have no >> Yes, we do. I mean, we we have control
Yeah, they're They have to contact me. If there's overtime, they're going to
flex us in. >> Within within reason, you
» Yeah, there's no >> It's in the contract.
» Yeah, we're I I've already explained to them we're
not doing that. >> It's Yeah, and we've already talked
about it. >> Yeah, they're not doing that.
» My concern is the the final supporters cuz we're paying for We're the only
community paying for somebody to go outside and fight.
Drugs and and and I would agree with you if we're
focusing on North Baltimore and North Baltimore, right? North Baltimore.
That's what we represent. We don't represent Rossville, we don't represent
Bloomdale, we don't represent So I'm not sure what
» So if the drugs coming to North Baltimore coming out of Rossville,
» then hopefully the Rossville Police Department are looking into that.
» Why? They're not selling them in Rossville.
» They're not selling it in Rossville, they're selling it here.
And then let's say let's say we take the guy out, right? We take the guy out, but
the guy in Rossville's still making the stuff.
» He's going to find >> And he's going to find somebody else who
is doing drugs with this guy or buying drugs off this guy who wants
the quick easy money and says, "Hey, just start dropping it at my house."
So, yeah, we got rid of you know, the superficial problem, but
we didn't we didn't take it out at the source. And that's what the task force
is for. >> To get the big fish out there.
» It's it's to follow it back to actually where it's coming from.
» Yeah. >> We don't have the resources at
Perrysburg or Rossford or Bowling Green for sure to get the you know, the
resources from the sheriff's office helps us
a lot. >> Yes.
» Well, sir, we don't have the capabilities. Do we have the
capabilities within our department to fight the drug and you're saying no, we
don't have the personnel to do so. >> It's a lot easier for you to have
somebody on the table. >> So, there there you go. That might be
the problem. Maybe we need to add more officers to the Village of North
Baltimore. Right? Or maybe we need to do what we
talked about and get this person trained get this person trained and then bring
them back to the Village of North Baltimore. But we're saying that we're
not even going to get that. There's no guarantee of that.
» We're going to have it. >> For years.
» They're going to be bringing back. >> No, but you'll be but we'll we'll
guarantee that. >> For years, I'm sure they could do a lot
of damage around here for 3 years of working with that drug enforcement. Go
ahead. >> That intel will go much further than
just drugs. On the arson investigation task force in
Northwest Ohio that I was on, I got brought over to Toledo police
and got involved in a safe cracking case.
Okay? They knew we were looking for this guy. He was tied to the safe cracking
case. They needed to find these safes. Said, "Hey, can you get the dive team
out?" So, we're getting resources involved,
but the tips are going other places. It's not going to be just drugs. It'll
go further to help the community overall.
» So, I guess the question is I think the majority of the council favors this. Um
I think are we going to accept the contract the way it is?
» I don't think you should accept the contract the way it is.
» Then let's let's get With With that you need to address with the sheriff to see
if he can work with us. >> we all need to
» I'll I'll be sitting down with the sheriff also. I'll tell you that right
now because I because I I I'm over this department.
» but I do believe that we need >> You and I will sit down with the the
with the with the sheriff. We'll reach out to him
and see when he's got time to sit down. And we'll address these issues.
» him in here? >> Will you do that?
» I would like that. >> I would I think bring him here so that
all the council can address him. >> Yeah, cuz see you need to hear from me.
You passing on the information that I'm hearing thirdhand.
It ain't helping any of you. >> If you just tell him
we're in favor of of doing this, but we have a couple concerns that we'd like to
iron out with the contract if he would be willing to come to us.
» Yeah, if you're not comfortable then I'm not comfortable. Okay?
I I see some issues with this. The mayor's pointed out some
and you have pointed out some and I think we need to address those with him.
Is this a deal breaker for him? Probably not.
I I don't think that it is. I want to leave you with one thing. If
If I'm a carpenter, I need certain tools to do this job.
If I'm doing drug enforcement, there's certain tools I need. One's a drug dog
and a drug detective. It's no different than any other
cuz those are the things that you get to go after the drugs and do your job
effectively and correctly. But if you don't feel comfortable
spending the money, completely understandable. This is a small town.
I mean Windham Township was a small township. They it was a small town. I
get it. I get it. Is do I personally think it
would be worthwhile for us? Yes, I do. Under the circumstances that you're
comfortable with and the mayor's comfortable with
and dealing with the sheriff. Um
we need to bring those concerns to him. Because I certainly have some I would
not sign that. I would not sign that. I I agree with what
» That's what we want to know. So >> Yeah, let's change it so we are
comfortable. >> Well, what what Let me ask what things
would you change? What what would you What would you be
» Emergency recall would be one of the first things.
Um
I think if they got the overtime provision was in there that they would
have to clear overtime with me. The only time there should ever be overtime in
this task force is if it's the last day of the pay period and they can't stop it
at 4:00 in the afternoon. They're on some drug surveillance. That should be
the only time. Any other time they got flex the schedule. He has to flex the
schedule. He knows that. So, there shouldn't be any That's the only
scenario where there should be >> That's a big one.
» Because there's really no accountability to this thing to us.
» That's That's one of my concerns. Another thing, there needs to be some
communication going back to this department, going back to you about
what's going on. >> And I
» This is not just an open-ended >> I agree with monthly numbers. Yeah. I
don't have any problems any of that. >> Yeah.
» I don't have any problem with any of that. They have the capability to track
the percentage of the time they're down here working a case down here.
» And letting you know kind of the things that are going on and what the
expectation we have to We have to know that the the the residents are getting
something in return for their but even to that
I just I don't support this. So, I would I'm saying that for the record. I want
that to be on record that I do not support this program.
» Do we want to invite the sheriff to our September 1st meeting of the whole or
September 8th? >> Well, I'm I'm wondering if the sheriff
wants to do it sooner. I guess that's, you know, if he's willing to wait until
committee of the whole, that would be great. But, if he wants to get since he
called you today >> I would like to be here when he is here.
» What are you going to be doing that >> Well, I have the
I have issues in my household to be in the news here shortly.
So, uh no. It's Don't ask me.
» So, the first Tuesday the first two Tuesdays are out for you.
» The first two and the third one as well. >> Okay. So, does a Monday night work?
» You tell me and I what what's good for you and I'll tell you my schedule.
I I I'm here for you other than Tuesdays I've I've committed to
» That's Monday night work here. I mean if you you want to see if Monday would work
and see if we can >> I'm sure he's more than willing to come
down and and speak with with us. You can voice your concerns directly to him cuz
he's the one that's got to sign it for them, folks.
Not me and the mayor got to sign it here.
» Is Monday the 24th at say 4:30 or 5:00?
» I'm sorry, what day was that? >> Monday the 24th, I think is what you
was. >> Let me check. Hang
» Thank you.
» Or do I do what >> Monday the 24th, I have nothing.
» Or do you do the 31st? >> Monday the 31st?
» I would come back. I have a doctor's appointment, but I could come back. It's
It's earlier in the day. >> What's counselor
» The 31st works better for me, but I don't know what everybody else is doing.
» know. Let's maybe see what the sheriff's >> So the 24th I just want to write that.
24th >> 24th and 31st are both Mondays. Let's
see what the sheriff's availability looks like for both of those and go from
there, maybe. Before we ask for both an actual special
meeting. >> can I can let you know what what he
said. >> That's That's not a problem.
» Okay. >> Uh going back to the K9 contract, do we
need an official motion to approve that as is as written or
what are we thinking? >> I
Did you want to check on the 2-year? >> I don't think it'd be an issue, but I
feel more comfortable if that's where you guys are standing on that.
» Is the 2-year in the Not in this contract, but the other contract with
the individual personnel? >> That the other contract is for the
police officer contract. >> Not the K9 contract.
» So this one's a 3-year? >> I'm sorry.
» The 3-year for the for the for the drug enforcement agreement?
» I I would I would say 3 years for that's reasonable
to me cuz I've been on multiple task forces.
» It seems like we can approve the K9 right?
» We wanted to check on the 2-year. >> But that's for the person though.
» though. >> And correct it.
Yes. The 2-year is for the person, not the dog.
» That's K9. >> 2-year would be
» For the >> dog.
» For the K-9. We can put it in the K-9 contract. What's the difference if Cuz
when she starts, she's basically she's getting done with that deal right now.
So, we're going to have the car back next week.
» Okay. >> And we can be ready to go.
» We don't want to We don't want to address the contract either what
contract tonight. You want to talk to her first.
» Or we can put the 2 years in there and I can say take it or leave it.
So, it depends on what you guys want. Is 2 years the minimum?
» Just for time frame, can you just go with the 2 years and then she's like,
"No." Then come back to >> Yeah, that's fine. Do you I think that's
going to be a problem? No, I don't I don't think so.
» Yeah. >> I don't think that's a problem.
» They're talking about the K-9 2 years. They're going to make a motion.
Do Do Do amend to approve the agreement with an amended
2-year >> Yes.
» with an amended 2-year >> I had a 1-year
» agreement. It's a 2-year contract. >> And I'll make that motion.
» I'll second that. >> Okay.
» Is there any other discussion? Vote when ready, please.
» Well, we didn't have a second, did we? >> Yes, I missed it. I'm sorry.
» It's okay. >> Miss Hefter?
» Yes. >> Mr. Richmond?
» Yes. >> Mr. Eingaard?
» Yes. >> Mr. Bozack?
» Yes. >> Miss Booker?
» Yes. >> All right, moving on to second readings.
Ordinance number 2026-19 ordinance >> I will get with him to see if the 24th
or the 31st is okay. I will contact him and let you guys know and I'll make sure
you cuz I'll be at school tomorrow. >> Thanks for sticking around.
» No, not at all. Appreciate it. >> Let me know where Kelly is at.
» I don't think it'll be an issue. If it is, then we'll discuss it, but I don't
think it will be. >> Okay.
» Have a good night. >> Thanks.
» Ordinance number 2026-19 ordinance number 2025-18
18 regarding the designated operator's special assessment area.
Moving on. Ordinance number 2026-24
ordinance authorizing certification of liquid utilities as a special assessment
to the Wood County Auditor. Moving on ordinance number 2026-25
ordinance authorizing the certification of grass mowing as a special assessment
to the Wood County Auditor. We go to ordinance number 2026-26,
an ordinance levying special assessment of costs and expenses of cleaning up
streets, alleys, ways, and other public places in the Village of North
Baltimore for 2026 authorized certification of same to the Wood County
Auditor. We go to ordinance number 2026-27, an ordinance levying special
assessment of costs and expenses of lighting for the streets, alleys, ways,
and other public places in the Village of North Baltimore for 2026 authorized
certification of same to the Wood County Auditor.
We go to ordinance number 2026-28, an ordinance levying special assessment of
the costs and expenses of trimming expenses of trimming, maintaining, and
cleaning of trees along the streets, alleys, ways, and other public places in
the Village of North Baltimore for 2026 authorized certification of same to the
Wood County Auditor. We go to ordinance number 2026-29, an ordinance levying
special assessment of the costs and expenses
of constructing, repairing, replacing, and maintaining sidewalks in the Village
of North Baltimore for 2026 authorized certification of same to the Wood County
Auditor. Resolution number 24-2026, a resolution
authorizing the Village Administrator to submit application to the Wood County to
the Ohio Public Works Commission for the Village Park and North Baltimore Storm
Water Improvement Projects. Resolution number 25-2026, a resolution
authorizing the Village Administrator or their designee to submit an application
to the Wood County Local Park Improvement Grant Program for
2027 program year.
We go to resolution number 26-2026, a resolution establishing a downtown
facade facade grant program, approving program guidelines, and authorizing the
Village Administrator or their designee to administer
the program. Resolution number 27-2026, a resolution authorizing the Village
Administrator to submit an application to the Ohio Public
Public Works Commission for the North Main Street Improvement Project from
Wooster Street to Cherry Street. Uh with with with reading that,
do what are we obligated to in that if that
passes? What's the obligation to the residents of North Main Street?
» It is what we're saying. What do you call it? What do you call it? 120
something I think it was. >> 120,000?
» Yes, about that.
» Um if that's just for engineering, that's not the project itself.
Project itself was I think 80/20. >> That's correct.
» Is what they're going for? >> Actually, I think it's in the more of a
50/50 with being grant and 0% loan over 30 years. Just a kind of
very similar to what we do with East Broadway, that whole PWC project.
Welcome. >> We might want to take a look at that
because before we obligated to that because you're talking about I mean a
50/50 grant loan is
you're talking about couple million dollar projects here probably.
What I would assume. >> Well, this project specifically
construction is around 499,000. >> What is it?
» Well, we're trying to stay under that $500,000 threshold for the construction
side of things. That's what we're applying for. So, it's not going to be a
multi-million dollar thing. >> So, it's Main Street North Main Street I
apologize. North Main Street to Walnut. >> From Cherry I'm sorry, from Walnut to
Cherry. >> Yeah, from Walnut to Cherry is only
going to You're saying it's only going to be a $500,000 project?
» The improvements that are being uh put into this
» Okay. >> Yes, $700,000.
» Is the estimated engineers >> Well, that's just the construction.
» I got you. >> Just the sidewalk
and storm water and obviously the street, so the curbs are
fine. I used to walk with Mason yesterday. Curbs are the best thing
about that street part of the >> That's That's good. Is there with the Is
there with the engineer saying it's going to be around $500,000 what they
have? Okay, that's That makes sense. >> I believe I gave you the estimate before
if you remember that.
» Okay, thank you. So, that's yeah, want to make sure that they're aware of what
they're >> We are tackling these big our main
streets with Main Street about >> $1,000,
yeah, that's >> So, it looks like it would be $250,000.
Let's just say it came in at $500,000. $250,000 plus $120,000 for the
engineering, we're looking at $370,000 somewhere around there, total project,
which might not be a bad idea.
Probably you come up with that. Pretty sure. Moving on, third reading,
ordinance number 2026-14, an ordinance enacting sections 373-13 of
the codified ordinance regulating the operation of bicycles, electric
bicycles, and other similar devices. You have a motion to adopt?
» So moved. >> Second.
» Motion and second. Vote when ready, please.
» Okay. Mr. Richmond?
» Yes. >> Mr. Engard?
» Yes. >> Mr. Bozak?
» Yes. >> Miss Fogle?
» Yes. >> Miss Hepner?
» Yes. >> Moving on, ordinance number 2026-16, an
ordinance vacating an unapproved portion of South
Bates Street right-of-way located south of East Water Street.
I get a motion to adopt? >> So moved.
» Second. >> Vote when ready, please.
» Mr. Engard? >> Yes.
» Mr. Bozak? >> Yes.
» Mr. Sweat? Miss Fogle?
» Yes. >> Miss Hepner?
» Yes. >> Mr. Richmond?
» Yes. >> This next resolution is being um we're
going to ask for a motion to table it, please.
Resolution number 15-2026, a resolution authorizing the execution of
professional services agreement with Prime Number Incorporated for the State
Route 18 multi-use path and Pole Road sidewalk project, approving the
agreement attached hereunto as exhibit A.
» And if I may, the reason why it's on there is because I was hoping it would
develop a lot faster with the whole master plan professional services
agreements. Eric is aware, which is obviously
here today, but basically Johnson Henry pushed back a little bit on what was
approved by council and we're working through that with Bob and things are
just kind of going slow right now. I haven't got a response back I don't
think from Kleinfelder yet and I know people in their office were were out on
vacation. So, we're still hearing back from them, but
that's why I brought it here because when I submitted it
Yes. >> So, you want to table it until September
8th or >> Might as well. I mean, we got to do
something to get it on the agenda. >> table it, you just table it and then
make a motion to take it off the table when you're ready to do so.
» I'll make a motion to table. >> Table number
Resolution number 18-26. Is there a second? Is there a second?
Thank you for that for filling us in on that.
» Thank you for mentioning your bed rest. >> Vote when ready, please Mason.
» Mr. Bozak? >> Yes.
» Ms. Bofry? >> Yes.
» Ms. Hefner? >> Yes.
» Mr. Wichmann? >> Yes.
» Mr. Angard? >> Yes.
» When we go ahead >> On the table I would assume cuz we're
going to force them to talk to the sheriff, so
» Yeah. So, Resolution number 18- >> 18-26 authorizing the mayor to execute
an agreement for drug enforcement services with Wood County Sheriff's
Office and the Wood County Board of Commissioners attached there to as
Exhibit A asking this to be tabled to after we discuss with
» Sheriff. Motion to table Resolution number 18-26.
» I'll second it. >> Vote when ready, please Mason.
» Ms. Bofry? >> Yes.
» Ms. Hefner? >> Yes.
» Mr. Wichmann? >> Yes.
» Mr. Angard? >> Yes.
» Mr. Bozak? >> Yes.
» Motion to adopt. Vote on motion to adjourn.
» I'll make that motion. >> I second that motion.
» Vote when ready, please Mason. >> Ms. Hefner?
» Yes. >> Mr. Wichmann?
» Yes. >> Mr. Angard?
» Yes. >> Mr. Bozak?
» Yes.