>> good evening.
this is the regular village commission meeting for
wednesday, december 8, 2021 peered the time is 7:10
p.m. And I'm calling this meeting to order madame clerk
can you please call the meeting roll call?
>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
commissioner richard chervony?
commissioner julianna strout?
commissioner rachel streitfeld?
commissioner julianna strout are you there?
mayor, you have a quorum.
>> thank you.
I would like to say the pledge of allegiance.
>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states
of america into the republic for which it stands one
nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice
for all.
>> I am sorry?
no, I did not waste the flag myself but I do not mind
it being over there.
we can see it from here.
yesterday was pearl harbor day and we should all
remember.
let's have a quick moment of silence to remember the
soldiers who may have sacrificed in pearl harbor and
world war ii. Thank you.
okay, order of business.
did anyone have anything for the order of business?
commissioner richard chervony?
>> I would like to pull from the consentagenda items
a1, a2, and a3 and I know that laurel was kind enough
to get us and ordinance that was approved by p & z. I
would like to add that to the agenda.
>> is it an ordinance?
does it need to be advertised?
it is okay to edit tonight.
>>> okay.
let's add that as 13 b essentially 13 c.
correct?
>> mayor, ken we also pull 11 a?
>> I was going to ask to pull that as well.
we will pull those from the consent and add those to
the top of the discussion items and then we have a
request from our marketing director, our communication
and shall even direct your. We would liketo move item
on 14b and we have a few professionals on the line that
could help with that presentation and we want to
respect their time.
is there anything else?
>> I have something mayor.
>> dr. Ralph rosado I have something.
you would like it for two january, fine.
okay.
let's move to presentations.
employee of the month, december 2021.
is it going to be angela?
welcome.
>> I wanted to divide a brief introduction.
we have to present the november and december employees
of the month.
the november employee of the month sandra sigman was
out.
we hope she will join usat the front of the room.
these are long-term employees and we are proud of the
work you have done for us for so many years. This was
an easy choice for us and they have tremendous support
across the entire organization as they work closely
with our staff village wide.
we are pleased to honor in november sandra sigman first
of all. Sandra, will you join us?
[laughter]
[applause] angela, our cfo has written a lovely essay
on sandra's behalf. I asked her to read. It is a
paragraph in itentirety.[laughter]
>> good eveningmayor, vice mayor and commissioners.
I would love to read my essay.
>> really, you wrote an essay?
>> it is a paragraph. It was right after budget, so I
was emotional.
but seriously, sandra is a very valued employee and
coworker. Everyday sandra comes into the office and
goes above and beyond for the people she works for and
with.
that was definitely never more obvious and in the
budget cycle.
and, it was my first budget cycle here but it wasn't my
first budget cycle obviously in my life.
she was very impressive.
we even had a 14 hour zoom and she didn't complain
once.
>> 14 hours?
>> 14 hours.
I got a text or a call from johnny, he thought my zoom
id had been hacked.
so-
>> that is impressive.
>> she spends in less nights and weekends helping with
the budget and she could have spent it with her family.
some of those examples are one-on-one with you guys
during the budget. She was actually in columbia with
her family on vacation yet she set aside time to make
sure she was on that zoom call.
>>.[indiscernable] [laughter]
>> she is always available. She always makes herself
available to any village employee including myself, the
village manager, pd, anyone.
I would say that the village is fortunate to have her
as an employee. She gives so much of herself without
asking for anything in return. Based on her unwavering
commitment to the village that is why I nominated her
for employee of the month.
[applause]
>> beautiful.
>> should beget a picture?
>> yes, please.
angela, don't go too far away.
our employee of the month in december has been with us
for over 25 years.
this is amenta clinton.
she is very much committed to north bay village and I
think everyone knows she is also a resident.
we want to thank her for her strong collaborative work
and dedication to the department.
I know that angela would like to say some words.
[applause]
>> like the manager said she has been here for over 25
years starting out as a part-time employee at the post
office.
she transitioned 16 years ago to overseeing payroll and
she now does things like processing the off-duty
payments for the police department which is challenging
at times.
she does things like the most recent thing she does on
her off time is she came in to help with the veterans
day luncheon.
that just shows what a team player she is.
and, I think that is most impressive to me and shows
what a strong character she has because of the things
she has to deal with at home.
that just shows that she does anything for anyone.
it is impressive to me. She goes through a lot and she
is always smiling. That is why we nominated her for
the december employee of the month.
we could not live without her.
[laughter] true.
she is great.
we did nominate her.
>> foreshadowing.
[laughter]
>> yes.
>> angela, thank you for having the backs of the
employees in your department as you do.
in q.
>> thank you.
[applause] [cross talk] [applause]
>> chief, I think you are on.
>> absolutely.
we have an exciting addition. I know some of you got
to meet him during our thanksgiving luncheon but
tonight is the formal introduction of our latest
officer, he joins us from the great city of opa locka
where he served for six years and we are very pleased
to welcome him. He is taking the place of officer
daniels so he will join us with the school board. We
are excited.
johnny has a wonderful track record and is wonderful
personality will be a shining star in our department,
no doubt. I would like to handed over for the chieffor
further information.
>> good evening mayor, vice mayor and commissioners and
members of the public. I'm excited to introduce
officer johnny. I said this when our previous officer
created the vacancy left. I look at these as great
opportunities.
opportunities to raise the bar.
professionalism, to make the department better, to
bring people with great skill sets into become public
safety professionals for north bay village.
officer johnny was on our radar right away he came with
tremendous recommendations.
his work in a blocker was outstanding.
everyone had tremendous accolades for johnny so we put
him on the radar and quickly started the process and
realized he was the real deal.
briefly, the purpose of today is a brief intro because
we will do a formal swearing in ceremony and
promotional ceremony at the end of january.
johnny was born in new york city and we will not hold
that against him.
[laughter] he did move to boston where he grew up and
met his wife, teresa.
donnie and his wife, teresa have been married for 19
years. They have three wonderful children I happen to
meet one of them the youngest one who is attending st.
thomas diversity.
he has a degree in information technology from the
university of phoenix.
he worked in it in boston at john hancock and also ran
a successful martial arts school where he taught men,
women and children.
he has defensive tactics to add to our training unit.
he has also trained nationally and internationally
competing in tae kwon do in 2004.
he was accepted to the police department academy and
decided to bypass his goal of becoming a police officer
at that time.
because he had a newborn daughter.
johnny and his family arrived in florida in 2004.
he had a couple of jobs before putting himself through
the police academy and graduated in 2012.
he worked for the opa locka police department as a
manager stated and then elevated himself to detective
and did outstanding work there. Everyone we spoke to
had nothing but great things to say. Like I said, we
saw that as the opportunity to raise the bar in the
police department and we are excited to have johnny as
part of our team.
congratulations.
[applause]
>> of course I am excited to be here. All of my
interactions have been fabulous with everyone I have
met and spoken to. I am excited to be here. I thank
each and everyone of you for the opportunity.
>> welcome johnny.
>> welcome!
>> I think that concludes the presentation's part of
the program paid we can move onto the open forum.
>> mayor, for the record I wanted to announce that
commissioner julianna strout mentioned to me she is on
zoom and is in attendance.
>> I haven't been able to get on the zoom meeting yet
so if she does at some point want to make a comment
please let me know we can include her.
is there anyone online for the open forum?
would anyone in the public like to make a comment to
the commission? A presentation?
regards?
anything?
nothing? Okay, we are good and we will move on.
the approval of commission minutes?
commissioner richard chervony?
>>item 5c.
>> I'm sorry.
>> those are the regular village commission meetings
from 11/9.
>> when we open those up it gives me the minutes of
october 12th.
I was not able to see the minutes of november night.
I would liketo record that for the next meeting when
they are there.
other than that I will make a motion to approve item 5a
and 5b.
>> I will second.
>> all in favor?
anyone against?
okay.
>> mr. Mayor, sorry to interrupt.
there is one item on the consent with the approving of
the eco-pod.
did you pull it?
no?
okay.
matt, I have just been informed that matt from eco-pod
is here and if we can it would be great to give him a
moment to speak about the partnership.
>> let's do that.
when is the appropriate time to do that?
>> now, he is here.
>> it is on the consent agenda end let's go ahead. We
just did the open forum.
>> thank you.
welcome, matt.
>> good evening.
thank you, mr. Mayor, vice mayor and commissioners.
my name is matthew going.
sometimes when you think you have a presentation and
it's in the bag you just go with it.
it was on the consent and in all seriousness what I
would like to say is you are the first municipality to
step forward to offer a refill solution to residents
and you need to be commended for that because that is
fantastic.
right now, the single use plastic issue is not just an
environmental problem, it is a crisis. There's micro
plastics showing up in health studies. I'm not going
to bore you with details but the one fact we are all
interested in is by 2050 there will be more single use
plastic in the ocean by weight then fish.
to step forward and do this and offer it is
commendable. I think it is a historicday, honestly
because other units apologies will follow suit and I
want to thank you for considering it.
>> thank you, I would like to ask you a couple of
questions.
you are going to presumably do some press on this or
media?
can we help you with that? We have a great public
relations communicator.
and we know that that is something that we would like
to help with.
>> yeah, it would be great to take a photo now, if
possible.
and, I also, matt, thank you so much.
your words are very resonant here.
I also think it is wonderful and remarkable about this
partnership. It came through one of our resident.
the idea to bring eco-pods to north bay village came
from a volunteer on our sustainability and resiliency
task force have great staff that was able to follow-up
and it is another great example in the way that our
community leads from the ground up.
>> thank you, very much.
we would love to work with the communications director.
we would love to make agreat public relations event
out of it. One of the things you should know is that
one of our partners in this is armando perez better
known as pitbull. He is a huge environmentalist. A
lot of people don't know that. He is also a safe
waterdrinking water ambassador and is very committed
and I'm sure he would love to get involved as well.
>> sounds good. Helen is standing next to you.
>> we do have a press release that is waiting to go
out.
the next step, and we were in talks earlier today is to
finalize a date for a ribbon-cutting when we officially
install. That will be coming up in january in the new
year just so you guys are aware.
>> we need to get the word out to the residence so they
can start utilizing the service. Thank you very much,
fantastic.
do we want to do a photo now?
>> yeah, let's do it.
>> we might as well.
>> the machine will be placed outside?
do we want to take a picture in that location?
okay.
>> thank you,fantastic.
thank you captain.
all right.
fantastic.
where were we?
we didn't get all of the minutes through but we did get
some of them, so that is good.
advisory board minutesplease.
>> after a review of the advisory board, can we have an
updated list of who has missed more meetings than they
have allowed? If there is a good excuseand put that
next to them now. If they were in the hospital don't
want to ding them for it but we need to review that.
>> okay, thank you.
okay, village commission's report.
oh, denny!
come on up.
>> good evening everybody.
I wanted to make a report because this is the last
meeting of the year.
we have done so much this year.
I am denise o'brien, chair of sustainability and
resiliency task force.
I wanted to make sure to mark this day because this
year has been really an amazing year and very
productive in all areas not just in resiliency.
we had the workshop on stormwater management and we
have already heard about what this commission is doing
to save the community. This is what we are talking
about here. However, there was one project where you
the commission made a resolution in april.
we are asking our task force to come back to you with
some recommendations on a marine protected area.
those recommendations should come to you by the end of
the year so it is not on your agenda today. I will
make a quick recitation of all the work we did, as you
have asked and then it can be put on the agenda
whenever the appropriate meeting is next year. I'm
going to try to share my screen and laura said this
would work, right?
okay.
we talked about this as a marine protected area.
the idea had been to have something that was very
clearly limit stated with all sorts of rules and
regulations.
as you can see, the title we have here is north bay
village marine park had how did we go from a marine
protected area to a park? This is what I will be
presenting to you. The idea of having a project in
north bay village to make our contribution in saving
this clean bay came in part as a response to the
biscayne bay task force per they issued a report in
2020 and among the recommendations they had to specific
ones we will be addressing with this initiative there
recommendations 6a is about raising awareness and
education and the recommendation 6g called to support
something they call "living laboratory for bay health".
if you are wondering what is a living laboratory, it
means having new technology in the bay.
in the water.
technology that is designed to save the bay.
I say, save the bay to resuscitate the bay because it
is gone, the bay.
this picture shows you the fish kill. This was right
outside of my building on harbor island more than a
year ago.
it was following this fish kill that we decided we
really had to do something.
that is when you as a commission passes resolution
asking the task force to come back with some proposals.
what could north bay village do and implement
recommendations from the task force and how can we
continue to be a leader you mac we have established
ourselves as leaders in this field.
we are small but we have strong leadership.
the commission asked us to consult throughout the year
with people from the academic community the elected
officials from the county. Also with various advisory
boards hereand that's exactly what we did throughout
the year. It was a result of this consulting that led
to this change from a marine protected area to a
northbay village marine park.
you must think of this as a park.
usually when you think of a park you think of walking
over somewhere and there are swings, slides or a dog
park.
this is on land and we are talking about a park that
will be in the water. We are talking aboutus as a
village going beyond our land-based and having a
presence in the water.
we have islands, how can we not have a presence in the
water?
we wanted to create a marine park and this is the
recommendation coming to you.
there are three pillars for this park.
three types of activities that we would like to engage
in in this area that is going to be the park.
the first one is scientific.
it is to allow the scientists from the university of
miami and from fiu through which we have an
understanding to use the waters of north bay village to
implement the living laboratory that was called for
from the biscayne bay task force. We will be the first
ever unison polity to step up and say we are going to
help you create a living laboratory.
it does not mean we will have financial cost or we will
pay for any of these projects and it does not mean that
we are going to have to do all of the permitting and
liability. It will be in the hands of whoever has
proposed these projects and it will go through a
guiding process, the project must be accepted so there
is no financial or permitting or legal responsibility.
the second one is educational programs.
we want to educate to create awareness. They talk
about in the meeting we had with fiu professors they
said k through gray. He saidkindergarten through the
old people like myself.
so to be able to educate all the residents but our
children.
most importantly are the children.
if we cannot have a new generation that understand
biscayne bay who understand the history or don't know
what happens to it or understand what caused it to die
but more important, it will be instrumental in bringing
it back to life.
this awareness, this educational program, we will be
developing under this banner of the north bay village
park paired what do you do in a park? Were going to
have education and awareness raising and finally
recreation.
how many of you have been in the bay or on the bay in
the last six month?
okay.
what we want is to make sure that all of our residents
have the opportunity to either go into the water or on
the water.
we want to open this whole space up to them.
it is a space that is not open to them it is only open
to these private property owners that have these
seawalls that we have all these discussions about.
what about everybody else?
it has been discussed so much and as we develop the bay
walk, the island walk, and two projects back to the
island walk.
we are going to be giving more access to the bay and
that is the idea. It is a marine park.
if it is a marine park our residents must have access
to it.
were going to work to develop more points of access and
intrigue.
this little highlights, thank you richard.
this shows the jurisdiction of waters.
all of these activities these 3 pillars can take place
anywhere.
within the jurisdictional waters, they will not be
tricked into a specific area as a marine protected area
would have been. They won't be restricted to a
specific activity.
we might do kayak access at vogel park.
we might have some swimming activities out of the east
drive park.
we will be able to develop different activities and we
will have activities on land.
the idea that it is a marine park but we could also
have activities on land.
the governance of this we will propose is that the
condition would create a nbv marine park committee.
the idea is to have someone from the commission,
someone from the task force, someone from the
university of miami, fiu and to ngo that would steer
the process.
they would be the ones to coordinate and solicit
projects and ideas to make things happen in this park.
they would be steering the way to make this park a
reality. And for your information that is not the son,
that is the moon in that picture.
scientific we already have a scientific experiment
going on in the water.
you can see our mayor brent latham there holding rebar.
unless he's gone to the gym and has superpowers that we
were aware of, no human being could lift the
traditional rebar.
a way way too much.
these are the rebar that has been developed by the
university of miami and they do not rest.
they are based on materials that don't rest and rest is
what breaks down the seawall.
if you are going to ralph, be looking at companies that
might have done work around here.
not many companies north would know companies have done
work with these rebar's.
you should be looking at companies that are interested
in innovation and interested in giving to our village,
seawalls that will last decades beyond the existing
technology.
you're going to need seawalls that are modular.
existing seawalls are not modular.
if you want to put in a new seawall you have to destroy
the old one new seawalls being designed by the
university of miami are modular.
you can go up, you can adapt.
we talked about the need for adaptation for a plan to
be flexible.
these new designs give it.
we already have a specific project in nbv park.
my goal here is to have five more projects of different
types or just an expansion of this one with more
private sector owners involved in this.
education.
we have now gotten in agreement from the thai school to
have blue scholars come in and provide free of cost a
program to our children.
it is directed to the fourth-graders.
these are just two.
I've picked it up from the website. These are children
who went to the program or the program is designed for
fourth-graders to learn about the history of the bay
and the ecosystem of the bay, how it works, how it
functions, what are the main characteristics: what are
some of the amazing creatures that are there that they
didn't know about?
what are some of the plant?
there are five modules and they can go for free in
school and before the pandemic students would go on a
boat in the water.
as soon we get over this pandemic bump which I am very
positive we know that we have vaccinations that we will
be over, our kids will go out in boats.
they will be out there on the water learning about the
bay.
hopefully, we can get scholars to let some of the
children at heart and residents to also do some adult
programs as soon we can get back onto. And finally,
recreation.
the picture on the left is the sandbar that is just to
the north. If you have ever walked along there at low
tide you can see the sandbar that forms in the ocean.
if you have a kayak you can paddle out there.
it is an amazing variant.
we want people to do all type of activities on the
water and we want to increase these recreational
activities as best as we can.
this is the proposal that we bring to you.
the idea of a north a village marine park I hope you
like the idea.
it is flexible and adapt to.
we can really turn it into whatever we have the energy.
presented this to committee services and they provided
to suggestions, one is a glass bottom boat and the
other one is artwork.
they are thinking about the possibility of putting
artwork underneath the water or in the water so you can
go out there snorkeling or diving and see the artwork
in the water.
I think it is a fabulous idea and that is the idea that
came from the advisory board.
with that, it will be on your agenda whenever it it's
the schedules. Starting in the new year. I didn't
want the year to end without coming back without a
proposal or ideas and I hope to make the dream of the
possibilities and what we have to do next year to make
this a reality.
thank you.
>>denise, thank you.
a quick question.
it's wonderful and it sounds interesting and unique.
what is different from the concept of this park and
north bay village anywhere else in this area?
>> if are created this you wouldn't have no motorized
vessels, fishing, whatever you wanted to stipulate.
these types of exclusions for example is something you
can still create within the park.
so what is different is the rest of the bay is like our
bay is now.
there's nothing out there.
there's nobody thinking about that or planning.
there's nobody creating activities.
we will make activities that's the difference.
if we don't have this concept of the nbv park you have
exactly what you have right now which is a lot more
open space and empty water and dying.
ask if I can add to the chairs comments, this marine
part can be thought of as a branding tool, right? We
are essentially opening up our offshore waters to
innovators and scientists who want to come to us with
project ideas and part of this marine park idea, there
will be essentially a board or a committee who
evaluates projects proposals and their funding
mechanisms and so on and so forth to make
recommendations to us.
as opposed to what we were looking at before which is a
delineated area, we are now saying we don't want to
focus on projects in that one particular area, we want
to tell everyone.
we been using this term living laboratory for years
now.
this is a brand that really encapsulates living
laboratory. It is not in conflict of our other
branding effort. I think the north bay village as a
marine park is a great way to package what will
probably be a future grant and project application.
>> yeah.
I agree.
what I'm trying to get ed and this is going to
potentially reduce some things but I really want to
wrap my mind around what we can do to make it. I
understand the concept of making a marine park.
I want to understand what we can do to make sure that
it becomes a unique thing.
apart from a place like key biscayne where they can do
research or do kayaking.
>> they cannot do research pay they can do kayaking but
no, research they cannot do.
is no facility unless you are part of the university of
miami and they're not even in biscayne.
so, this is unique.
the scientific pillar is the one that is really unique.
it doesn't exist elsewhere and we would be pioneers.
education and recreation yes you can do that anywhere
but who is doing it?
which venous polity is out there pushing these issues?
which minister polity is investing in this park to have
kayaks?
the others that are doing it, there's a big fight about
the kayak launch space.
>> there always will be.
>> other than the scientific and of course the
scientific is the most important. It is the most
unique and the most important.
you could say educational is an add-on, but it is super
important.
going to have our children learning about the bay.
we didn't have this concept we would never have done
this.
I would've never contacted the scholar scholars and we
would not have any discussion with them.
we went over to the school because of this marine park.
>> so creating a marine park you eventually create one
of the critical mass of rain oriented activities in one
place and builds off each other and create efficiencies
and moves science forward in terms of preserving or
resuscitating the bay?
>> also as a branding mechanism, you will be there,
won't you?
>> I will be there in a few minutes.
>> if we are the heart of the bay, what do we doend
it's going to be more than just a slogan it will be
embodied in this.
>> I don't see this as a unique project.
see this as starting a project that hopefully all other
municipalities on the water would like to imitate or
emulate.
were going to be the leaders on this project and I
certainly hope for the communities to jump on board but
we have to start by creating everything with
sustainability during the year and the plan.
I don't expect unique.
uniqueness might be the plan of the cep in the
underwater sculptures that might be down there. That
becomes a reality.
it's an outrageous idea but you have to make that
reality.
there is uniqueness in the programs that we are going
to create or try to create at this park.
but, I am certainly hoping and I think that is the idea
behind this is to be emulated and copied by any other
coastal community and we are saving our bay.
because, the little piece of bay around north bay
village alone will save the bay.
>> we might be able to savehave the technology to save
other bays. We are hoping scientist to implement it.
let me give you another outrageous idea. I want to do
a snorkel trail.
underwater assignedwhat the different plants are or
ecosystems are and create a trail that is underwater.
yet to put on a mask and be able to snorkel and go over
there swimming and you will be on an underwater museum
learning about the bay and it would be integrated into
the scholars program and the children would be out
there with their masks and snorkels on looking in the
water.
it is dreamy. But if you create the concept and if you
back it and you believe in it, you have to believe in
it.
then, we can really have things happening and I will
come back to you as soon as you have decided if you
want to go ahead with this with the first one-year plan
with what our milestones are, our objectives are and
this educational program we wanted to be in the spring,
summer and fall. We are hoping to take it onto the
boat. So, we have a bit of a difference but first we
have to hear from you if you like this idea.
and it can be on your agenda.
>> thank you, denise.
>> I said this to the sustainability and resilience
task force when denise presented this to us.
the swimming, we are going to keep talking about the
snorkel trail because it is so important to keep the
dream alive that we will be able to encourage swimming
in the bay.
the reality right now is that really, I dove into the
bay about six months ago.
I have done it but it's not advisable.
right?
the legislature is considering requiring local
government with water recreation access areas to test
for fecal matter and bacteria you lily and to post
alerts in those areas. Again, this is a legislative
proposal and it may or may not pass during the
legislative session but given what we know about the
effluent from the canals into our immediate offshore
waters the snorkel trail is not going to be our first
priority.
we have a lot of work to do with our neighboring
disabilities in miami-dade county's with sewer
conversion for we can move forward on the snorkeling.
>> we don't have to wait for legislation to pass to
start testing our water.
the scientific pillar is going to be to work at fiu
they are the water keepers could we would be able to
say okay, we have a marine park and we are going to do
as a university ask you to come and test the water. So
they would be able to see is the water getting worse?
is it getting better?
don't have to wait for legislation, we want to do that
on our own because we have a marine park and that's why
we want to do it.
we want to know what is happening to our water.
>> bravo madam chair.
thank you.
>> it is 8:00 and we are on the committee part of the
meeting so let's go ahead and bring helen and nick up
from the heart of the bay task force we can have our
branding presentation and work on this since we already
have the open forum so we can move forward.
>> can I make any comments about the previous speaker?
>> I amnick quay and I'm the chair of the heart of the
bay committee.
this sounds wonderful.
if everyone backs it and makes it take lace it forces
people to listen.
I think the opportunity there is that it forces people
to listen to another municipality who's doing something
cutting-edge.
the scientific part the reporting part becomes public.
sometimes it's difficult to find information on the
water as a paddle border and a swimmer I would love to
swim in the bay but I know better.
the thing is it's hard to get that information doing
something that the city backs doing an official part of
the village is significant because you're going to have
other people who want to do research. As richard said,
other people want a copy and emulate the things that we
are doing.
the more conversations we can have showing them why
it's unique and why it's going to help us all going to
force the state or other people to get our neighbors to
get their act together.
a lot of the pollution doesn't come from us. There's
fecal matter and sewage breaks constantly.
money can come from a much higher level if things are
done locally and it takes a group like us like north
bay village to stand up and be the leader and do
something unique and show everyone else it's possible.
I love it, thank you. I know much work she's put on it
because I was on the board with her that first year
it's an amazing project and I think everyone should be
backing it.
>> thank you, nick. Let me appreciate thatand
introduce you as the chair of the part of the bay task
force.
and then helen our staff liaison on the task force and
this is a task force which I have led or help lead or
co-lead with residents. If you remember a year ago in
november or december I said let's put together a task
force to work on rebranding the village or giving the
village a brand.
the village, going back in time even to present we have
not had a brand. We've had a logo and a series of
logos and a name and at times a slogan but not a brand
per se.
part of the results of that and also the answer to the
question I have been asked, why rebrand or work on a
rebrand for north bay village and that's to very
clearly establish a sense of identity in place that we
deserve, had, had had in the past and are building
again through our work, things like resiliency, through
things like master planning through things like forward
thinking initiatives.
and so, after two years and three as mayor seems like
the time is right to create that sense of identity.
the first step in creating that is to work on what is
essentially a brand guide.
we started to work on that over the last year along
with the heart of the bay task force with a lot of
leadership from helen.
we put in on of work on this on above and beyond and
certainly not in her job description but much
appreciated.
we have also worked with a company m style who is on
the line now to create what you have in front of you
today which is a rand guide which is really the first
step in the rebrand of north bay village which will
take steps to implement the brand which we have
established it.
here we are at a major step which is having a brand
guide to give feedback on and potentially approve and
move forward with this process to properly brand the
village and move forward in establishing that sense of
place and identity nick?
>> thank you mayor, commissioners, staff and all the
public at home. This is a project we started over a
year ago at this been a lot of meetings and energy from
the staff.
we created a heart of the bay task force. We met
throughout the year in different places. There was a
community leader survey where all the commissioners
received as well as a little bit of the public which
you guys did a year ago as well and they ask questions
like what do you identify with?
what kind of color, animal, sound?
what makes you think of north bay village?
we started off at that and then came up with a plan and
really got the public engaged.
we had over tuna people get engaged including staff,
commissioners, consultants as well.
in a very large cumulative projects.
the good news is, what I'm about to show you, 85
percent of everybody surveyed loves where it is right
now.
we did all of the input with the diverse respondents
from kids, seniors and farmers market. We have boots
everywhere every single step of the way there was 20
different innovations of the logo. It's a lot. I like
the first one.
but it's a process. Digital outreach, email blasts,
youtube, the website social media the inspirations, the
biggest thing that people mentioned when nick says what
inspires you to live in north bay village mac what you
love about north bay village. It was like a sunset.
the historic architectural vibe, the community at
large, the dolphins, water.
a lot of people like the new art. There's some new
public art installations that we been seeing for the
last year or so.
everybody loved it.
these are the main components that really inspire.
personality trait. When everybody was poled, all the
participants, the main one was fresh, progressive and
friendly.
north bay village has always been that to me. I have
been a resident for the last several years and I
believe it is a very diverse place.
the much diversity we have as many types of people as
the dots on my shirt and that's what we try to embody
on the logo.
the mission statement and the pillars the mission
statement remains the same to serve our diverse
community preserving our natural resources stimulating
economic activity and enhancing the quality of life for
present and future generations the pillars stay the
same it's about livability, zillions and prosperity.
he much everything that the boards have been working on
for the last couple of years we try to embody all of
that and bring voice to it.
the new brand icon is the north bay village dolphin.
the dolphin the inspiration for it comes from community
art. It is a stylized often and it represents the
fragility of the local environment and marine life it
also represents the health of biscayne bay. The
official village slogan would be north bay village,
heart of the bay.
and there we go. This is what the logo looks like.
all the things that inspired everyone that took the
questionnaires, surveys and gave us feedback was an
corporative in this.
the roots of the palm tree goes clockwise as the tree
grows larger signifying our commitment to the
resiliency of north bay village.
>> all hop in. This logo is meant to be used for all
marketing and promotionalmaterials. We will get into
the difference between how the logo is used and how the
seal is used.
>> the updated village seal, >> I will speak on this
one pay the seal should be used for alllong-term
village sanctions and activations and also government
documents. It follows best practices that other
municipalities use as well.
the a lot of municipalities we don't use the seal for
everything but they will use a logo and that the idea
that we are trying to follow.
>> the police badge, there's a couple of different
versions.
if they are in a chipper exciting mood they could use
the color that matches the logo pick the one they
currently have on the badge is the florida seal, the
florida lease seal.
there's an opportunity to have continuity and flow so
it will all match.
a lot of the offices prefer the more subdued one that
matches the uniform blue and gray.
I think it is a personal preference is like whatever
shoes you are going to wear for the day.
for the north a village anniversary this is a
throwback.
this is an old seal from a long time ago from the
1940s.
we thought it would be a cool idea to bring it back.
a lot of people like throwback thursday, culture and
history and want to know why they're still here.
we've a couple of residents who been here since the
40s.
and in the logo for the advisory board.
there are different parts of the logo and different
things that can be used for different reasons.
this is an easy way to show off what were doing as a
village and as a municipality to give some pride to
each of the boards. The logo would remain the same
bottom name changes based on the name of the board
peered the branding elements like I mentioned before
all the photos and things that spoke people it was
about the wave, the dolphins the sunset and the
sunrise.
these are the different colors that we put into
bringing you today's logo.
feedback results.
look I said we have 200 active participants plus the
commission village staff advisory board members on
several boards.
residents and consultants.
as I mentioned a while ago 86 percent strongly agreed
with the new logo. The only thing that had a little
bit of contention, it's still a clear win the slogan
the heart of the bay is 40 points above everybody else
and I would say that's pretty good. It is double the
following almost triple the other two.
I think that is something that we can handle later but
as a curiosity with a show of hands, this doesn't count
for anything so people in the room do you feel like
this hits 80 percent of what you think north a village
should be represented by?
okay, because of?
>> colors.
>>okay?
>> the fact that it looks like a dolphin in a net.
>> that's a good point.
>> I think the dolphin represents solid.
>> my microphone was off.
>> the rest of it and the segmented dolphin?
>> you're talking about the slogan, I like the island
paradise.
>> all of that is doable.
it feedback from the community that echoed that as
well.
86 percent of the pole agreed with it. The segmented
dockdolphin are something that is easy to fix peered
that can be easily filled in and slogans are easy to
mess with.
>> the other thing takes me into a little bit of
question, in a community of 8300 people only 200 have
participated?
you take into consideration the staff and condition
give a good 8200 people right there.
>> were talking about participants above and beyond the
commission peered that separate. We had 200 from the
public and then we had on top of that we had another 60
more including.
>> that is point 025 percent.
>> we should have called the commission to help make
phone calls with us to be called as many people as we
could to give us feedback peered we had people come out
to all of the events.
>> java townhall in a meeting?
but yes, we did that over the year and we can provide a
list.
>> let's go ahead and go over the public opportunities
for feedback.
I would imagine thousands of people were touched.
it would be short of mailing out a survey basically two
people. I think a lot of efforts were made why don't
you go over those.
>> throughout the year the heart of the bay taskworse
had the opportunity for residents to display in and
many residents go out to those meetings. In addition
to that tried to hit diverse events, hitting diverse
opportunities for different people to respond.
at national night out had around 500 people there.
that night we had about 50 come to our booth and
discussed the brand. We made ample opportunities at
the farmers market at one of our last concerts of the
year. We also made sure that this was opened digitally
so that people can respond to the brands online.
we did do our parts and trying to make this process
where the public could engage and provide feedback.
>> one more thing to think of when you ask for
engagement and something a lot of people we spoke to
said 11, I like it and some people don't care if it
changes or not good other people sent love you doing
keep on doing it but they didn't want to take the 10 to
15 minutes to sit down and answer questions and
respond.
to say a couple hundred people not including staff
members actually took the time to engage and sit down
and have these longer discussions, I think that is
pretty good.
a lot of people I spoke to did not want to do it. They
just said we love it.
that's kind of what it was.
if you count everybody that was touched it would be
significantly more than 200.
it's that 200 cared enough for wanted to spend the time
and gave the village time enough to sit down and give
us hard feedback.
those are the numbers we had peered we didn't count
every person we spoke to.
>> I also want to point out that we did think about
having a specific townhall for branding. Instead we
pivoted and decided that attendance at other town halls
are not very high.
probably get more feedback we met her dispense where
they're already going to village events. That was a
strategy we decided to use instead.
>> I think that's the right strategy. If you look at
the stormwater mastertownhall we had zero residents
attending.
does that we don't move forward or have support from
stormwater master plan?
not at all.
200 per dispense north bay village is a record number
of participants in terms of feedback.
if we set the bar at 50 percent of our residents to
give feedback were simply never going to accomplish
that.
>> I do want to open the floor up for any questions or
answers but before that our consultant, rob, on the
line and if you like to share a few words, please feel
free.
we are an muting you, shortly.
you have to accept to be in muted.
>> is a fantastic thing that we are a brand team and
not a tech.
I want to thank everybody the team that worked on this,
the mayor as well. We have the honor of being able to
work on programs such as this and whether it's the
national park centennial our firm had the opportunity
to rebrand the san antonio riverwalk.
we had worked for groups such as the nfl and nhl and
some of the world's top global brands.
we've gone through this process with multiple federal
state municipalities and I think by far you should all
appreciate from an office standpoint I think this was
probably the most efficient, well-run brand process
I've ever seen in a government agency.
I commend you guys for being able to get through the
process and we got really concise feedback from the
community.
for us it was truly an honor to be able to work with
everybody on this as well.
>> thank you, rob.
>> I do want to point out that high 80s acceptance of
things is very high.
you are never going to get in a project like this 100
percent agreement or one hundred percent acceptance
from anyone on anything. There are elements of the
brand that I don't care for and appointed out along the
way it's part of the process.
it has been a process to determine what other the
representatives of north they village according to the
members who have participated in the process? We can't
put guns to people's heads and make them come out and
participate but a lot of people did. We have feedback
in terms of colors, in terms of the feel, in terms of
all of that to build towards the logo that we have.
maybe it would be helpful if you went through a little
bit, for example, what the process was to build the
logo? It's not just something that people went in and
rendered a little bit and said how do you likethis?
how did it work?
>> rob can definitely add to this but we saw so many
versions of the logo throughout this process.
what we started seeing in january, february, it is
nothing compared to where we are right now. I
misspoke. In april when we started looking at this.
easily, think we went back and forth 20 times or so.
>> I think that might be an understatement.
the brand program that exists right now is really
indeed a process.
it came through a labor of that process with real
feedback along the way.
he started with a fair amount of research and develop a
real strategy in conjunction with the village about
what is the brand supposed to be and what does it
represent walt making sure we keep a true holistic feel
to the community.
and then throughout the way and throughout the process
making sure we incorporates all the feedback we
received and all the opinions we received as well as
making sure that the creative side of this is what the
program brand is supposed to achieve.
>> the one thing to keep in mind it's not like anybody
sat down and said this is what we want on the logo,
this is an accumulative of months and months and months
and I can't tell you how many hours.
this is about feedback and getting feedback appeared if
it was the mayor or her it would've come out different.
the whole purpose was to do what the community was
asking.
what the people were asking for and what they felt
represented the village this is it.
if I like it 100 percent does not matter.
the people spoke, the community spoke and like she
said, we were aware that holding a town hall with zero
people there does not work.
10 percent of participants came to talk about the logo
and to me that is massive.
I never go to events that have that it's like when you
have a conversation about what you want to do with the
road?
you're going to be torn down the middle. The fact that
we have high 80s and an acceptance whether it's my
version or not the people spoke.
the community spoke.
the survey did its job and with rob and everybody they
kept us in line with how do you really do this?
it's not what do you want to do the five or six people
who came to the meeting that was part of it in the
beginning then it switched.
this does not look like any of our four or five
iterations. It came from the community and the people
in the feedback.
that's the one thing to keep in mind. The exercise is
that it is why are we here, what we doing this for?
what do you guys do this for mac to serve the people
and take what their needs and wants are and then we can
do that at a government level.
>> I appreciate from an eco-standpoint getting to hear
my name.
but we are 18+ designers working on this, award-winning
designers that are paired with a strategy and research
team.
indeed this is not a creative process alone.
it is a full strategyresearch process that gets infused
by all of the creative community comments along the
way.
to everyone's credit at the meeting we have been
involved in several of these programs especially at the
government level. The pathway and process and
exclusivity that is been in this program has been
amazing to us.
we seen this managed where they get very sidetracked as
well.
I think everyone so far has been very pleased with the
result.
>> I will jump in and say that I love it.
I really love it.
I think the colors are modern and fresh and I think
they elicit that positive, friendly vibe that we are
going for and the survey elicited those top three
things that are resident think of when they think of
north bay village.
I think having the logo and the seal is a great idea.
I think the fact that the dolphin is fractured with the
fragility of the marine life is very poignant.
unfortunately, I disagree with commissioner richard
chervony I think it's important and it does match the
existing brand that we do have if we do have any
existing branding.
you guys did a great job and I specifically want to
commend you on the process.
I have seen on helen's desk a stack of forms that
people took the time to fill out.
the quantitative data that you collected and went
through, that comes from our resident has been
wonderful in the social media campaign has been very
fantastic.
doing this digitally opposed to a town hall we had a
town hall tonight with the single infrastructure facing
our community and one person came.
don't think it's honest for us to say you should have
done a town hall.
because we know from experience that there are a
handful of people who might come to a town hall.
I applaud you for reaching residents in a way that you
did.
bravo.
I fully support the results of this process.
>> let me say some thing about this stylized dolphin.
it is remarkable in the sense that certainly not
everybody loves it. Others do like it and from a
branding point of view what you want is unique and
remarkable.
he pulled don't necessarily want to love something but
they have to see it.
the fact that it does represent the fact that we are at
the heart of a fracturing marine environment that is
falling apart around us, things that are precious to
us, marine life, a dolphin that we see swimming every
day and our role as a city and preserving that and
holding it together, that icon tells the story of north
bay village without saying a word.
you can love it or not love it and there are things to
love.
who loves the fact that our marine environment is
falling apart?
who loves the fact that we have to work so hard to keep
it together: what I do love about that icon is tells
that story. It is a story of north bay village 2021
and I like it.
>> you know I love it. I love the colors, I am a huge
fan.
also even whether this was intentional or not, I know
that there is a similar logo so it already fits in with
some of the initiatives that are going on here in the
village.
and like they said it's vibrant, modern and I think
that is what it has been missing.
this commission is representing a new day in the
village and I think this logo and this brand quantifies
that very clearly.
great work!
>> let me say one more thing that is important.
rob, how much does it normally cost to develop a
branding guide to this extent?
>> to say that this was discounted for the village I
guess would be a tacky understatement.
we normally don't start a brand program for usually
under 70 or $80,000 as a starting point.
>> you looked into sunny isle beach just did a site
delay similar exercise how much was it for them?
>> 80,000.
>> helen, how much are we spending on this you met.
>> 5000.
>> what?
>> thank you rob!
[laughter]
>> thank you, rob!
>> it sounds terrible!
>> it's our pleasure. I may ask for a round of drinks
when I get down there.
some of this is, when I say it's an honor, for someone
who comes down to that area often whose business
partners, who are at the restaurants and bars at north
bay village, it is a pleasure to work with really
fantastic people on this and that made the process that
much easier.
we consider ourselves to be an award-winning team for
what we do and if you guys have an award-winning team
and staff peered therefore, we are happy to work on it
and we are happy to be part of the process.
>> thank you rob and the other person aside from
obviously the heart of the bay task force and citizens
that work hard on this is helen.
I have now dubbed her the director of marketing and
communications because it is a new feather in your cap.
wrinkly, you have helped save us somewhere in the range
of $50-$70,000 through your work on this project and it
is completely measurable and identifiable and I am
appreciative of the work you've done.
it is above and beyond your job description and will
help you professionally but more than you thought you'd
be asked to do and you took this job a year or less
than a year ago.
thank you for your hard work and we could not have done
this without you, without rob and the heart of the bay
task force.
>> I will add mayor, having worked with a lot of
different groups and agencies at front levels I would
say helen was an agency of one in this regard and
managed the brand process and it was really impressive
and it was our pleasure to work with you.
>> ditto.
>> rob did not try to steal her from us!
[laughter]
>> I can't make promises.
>>fantastic.
I'm happy to take more feedback or comments.
again, I do understand it is not 100 percent
satisfactory to everyone.
it would be very strange for everyone to like every
single element.
or anyone to love every single element out of the range
we have here.
>> we are dressedalike tonight and everything!
metro comes back!
the bellbottoms go away!
>> hello, I have two words.
>> art deco is not making a comeback!
>> I think the miami heat would beg to differ.
>> here is the reality of it. If you google the top
trending colors nationally, not this year but everyone
is calling us modern.
so, I was born in 1980 but I still remember these
things and I remember the colors.
>> the old-timers such as myself and that is why I am
here to represent the old-timers. I'm the only one
this is a young commission and I am the oldest one. He
reminds me of art deco.
that is what I am used to seeing.
>> a lot of the architecture around herereminds us of
that.
>> all of the architecture that is left-
>> were going to have to call kobe carpenter and have
them bring it back.
>> all right. We are getting off topic we have a long
agenda. Can we have a motion?
>> if you need a motion to approve I am making that
motion.
>> I will second that.
>> of emotion and a second.
>> also,please specify which logo you would like to
adopt.
>> I can go back if you want.
>> the motion is to approve the heart of the bay is the
slogan.
>> I will second that.
>> I think that is a package.
with the heart of the bay let's talk about that. It's
unique in the beginning but we really did, almost for
that reason make a best effort to find something else.
we went above and beyond to try to find something that
was more appropriate and we did not find it.
>> I will just say, I was on team three island paradise
at the beginning but I had lunch with horatio and he
told me where it came from and it reframes everything
to me. When I was introducing myself at the first
meeting of the water management board on monday to be
able to say I represent north a village and we are in
the heart of the bay it just rolled off the tongue.
the motion for is for the heart of the bay and to
approve the final result.
thank you.
>> seconds.
>> okay let's vote.
>> commissioner rachel streitfeld?
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
commissioner richard chervony?
commissioner julianna strout? Mayor brent latham.
the motion carries.
>> thank you all for your time and everybody who has
been helping out with this and thank you.
>> a footnote to the heart of the bay task force
because the task of the heart of the bay is to rebrand
the village I feel like we are at that halfway point.
we have work to do on the implementation of the brand
and their is some specific things that need to be
discussed and agreed upon in the health of the task
force will be integral in that.
think this project continues for another 6 to 12 months
in terms of the implementation of the brand and we
decide who will be or how the brand will be sorted from
there on but there's some heavy lifting going on on and
the members that are present and active and we are now
at a point we can spend recruiting new members where a
couple dropped off and my thinking is that we will
bring in some new members that will be energized by
this process here the hard work has been done.
as part of the exciting work of implementing the brand
and I think we can do that and the task force does its
work over the next 6 to 12 months and we can look at
who stores the brand from this point forward.
fantastic. Thank you. Thank you nick and helen.
that is 14 b5 and we will jump back. We have not had
the reports appeared we will have the commission
reports. Who would like to begin? Any volunteers?
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
>> good evening everyone and happy holidays.
>> happy holidays.
>> thank you.
a lot is happened since november and we will build up
to what I think is one of the most exciting parts of
the city but the park continues to go well and we had
questions around potentially expanding it so thank you
to all of those that do and attend yoga in the park
it's great to see you in the morning and there was good
attendance as well for the attendance of the day.
miami-dade started that event.
it is great. Were going to have a conversation around
an ordinance as to the housing ordinance and I will
speak more on that as we get to that item.
we are working on a new event. Helen just left but we
are working on a new event called the stroller derby.
we have a lot of young and new families on the island
which I am one of them and every morning I see a lot of
folks walking throughout the city and they are always
asking about things to do for their kids.
were going to have a wellness event that will also
incorporates some sort of food service and share the
details over the next couple of weeks.
that's january 22nd.
and, then again, north bay village has led the way in
working together to pass legislation.
anyone who has been part of the cleanups often times
you can see the number and the amount of single use
plastics that are out there that we pick up. I think
the commissioner is addressing this from the creation
angle and we are also trying to do that from a business
perspective.
we kicked off the initial trial of that last year with
the help of lame beach. This year eileen higgins
sponsored the item 305 and that has been adopted where
advice will be passed to businesses in miami-dade
county where we can find alternatives to single use
plastics.
I know some of the things we are working on here, we
are very busy on projects and handling things that we
can handle as a city internally but there's a lot of
things plastic being one of them that we can do to
protect the bay that will require help from the
neighbors and friends locally and regionally. I'm very
excited to work with miami water keeper under free
oceans and they are partners with freeing that
legislation to miami-dade county and seeing that past
eddie county level.
that started with the sustainability and resilience
task force which the commissioner was vice chair and
penny o'brien who is full of nothing but great ideas
and resources that help champion their efforts and
continue to live on in the legislation that is passed
at the regional level and hopefully the state level as
well.
thank you all again for that in helping support that
and that is all I have.
>>congratulations mr. Vice mayor.
classic 305.
I'm really excited that we approve the agreement with
eagle pods tonight. I think it will be exciting when
we have a ribbon-cutting ceremony and it would be
amazing to get some press out of that's that's really
exciting.
the first meeting of the miami-dade county watershed
advisory board was monday morning at county commission
chambers.
commissioner danielle cohen higgins was elected the
chair of that board, the mayor of coral gables was
elected as vice mayor. This 21 seats on the board and
municipal seats are held by crystal wagoner and north
bay village.
a number of other entities are on the board.
there commissioner moniz seen and sosa marine fisheries
and the biscayne bay.
the us department of interior basically has a seats,
fiu has a seat and a couple of others.
the meeting moved much more quickly than I anticipated
which was a learning experience for me so, the next
meeting is in february and I will be more up to speed.
essentially the goal is going to be to draw down as
much money from miami-dade county as possible there was
a request coordinate our talking points when we meet
with legislators so that we can echo lame date counties
rarities in the area and the top priority is the sewer
septic conversion. I will be accepting your work from
the county on where they are on their set sewer
conversions actually in the area that except the
immediate basin and will make it that information I
would be happy to share it you all. That is that the
only other thing I have is happy holidays everyone.
on january 23rd which is the day after the stroller
derby we are going to have a jampacked weekend of fun
in north bay village.
on sunday january 23rd we are having a sunset sundowner
concert.
it will take place around sunset at vogel park.
the band is one of our residents who is in this band,
court. It's like an 80s, 90s rock bandand they take
requests.
I think I said this at the last meeting day take
requests, stump the band, you can make a request and if
the band doesn't know how to play, mission or if you
would like to do a duet I would be open to that and
hope to see everybody on sunday generate when he third
singing and dancing at the sunset.
>> go ahead commissioner.
>> I will do a duet with you commissioner anytime.
hopefully by then I will be able to walk.
I just got back surgery on my spine. We had some
vertebrates removed paired I realized my injury was a
little more intense than I thought so with the guidance
and referral of the senator I found a surgeon to help
with that.
the resident services board meeting was last night.
they want to be able to make sure that the needs of the
residents will be all-encompassing of the age group
that the city represents.
making sure we have events for seniors, young kids and
I feel that it reflects the diversity that we have
within the commission as well.
trying to be able to make sure we are handling all the
needs that the residents have moving forward.
they are excited about all the things that are upcoming
hearing about what the commission has been able to
accomplish in the time that we have been here.
I also want to commend the city administration on how
they been decorating the third floor.
I just other video and everyone's been doing such a
phenomenal job.
we are really keeping up with the morale of the
employees.
it's wonderful to see that it really shows the
commodity that we never had in the past and am grateful
to be part of a team to see that being implemented. So
thank you again.
apologize for my absence during this recovery period.
>> mr. Mayor, it is now a full year I've been serving
on the north bay island commission.
when I take a look back at what we plan to work on it
amazes me.
we need to take a step back and review all that we have
asked for and voted for that has been lost in the vast
open space.
thankfully it is on paper and in the minutes and I
asked that the staff use it and catch up on the
projects and activities we have asked for, of hb given
for all and those that have been approved and fallen by
the wayside placed into action.
the us coast guard turned down our request to lockdown
the bridges during rush hour as our request was
unreasonable and would obstruct navigation on the
waterway.
it is important to note that this is a federal project
waterway extending over 1500 miles from boston to
florida bay.
if there is no opposition from my fellow bay members I
would like to ask legal to draft a resolution report
for approval at the next meeting whereby we request the
us coast guard and fdo t two have the opening of the
bridge during peak roadway hours.
this is a month full of joyous events as we celebrate
hanukkah and the tree lighting ceremony.
the holiday lights around the village have been working
timely and some additional decorations can be seen at
the entrance of violence.
thank you to all who made it possible.
allow me to remind you that this coming sunday there
will be a holiday recital led by local resident
samantha nelly at 5 pm at vogel park. Our winter
wonderland comes up the following week as we enter the
holidays.
throughout the month of december there is a box in the
lobby for collection of unwrapped toys. Please help us
put a smile on kids faces this christmas and put one
toy in the box. My thanks to all that make these
events happen. We do have a full calendar of events
that happen next year but if there's something you want
to see, please contact the staff or any of the
commissioners.
it has taken north a village 77 years to get to today.
hearing and seeing some of the plans for our future I'm
excited to see what is forthcoming.
on the bridge overhaul, the new construction roadway
improvements new businesses, educational climate and
social activities it is a win-win situation for all and
that is why I wanted to join and be part of this dream
team.
to my fellow commissioners, thank you for all your hard
work this year.
given proven a leader in your own right and specialty
and that of note wishing commissioner julianna strout a
speedy recovery.
to the staff I know I can be rough on you but it's
because I know you have it in you to accomplish and
make the place a three island paradise we all wish and
wants.
my constituents fellow residents and neighbors in thank
you your involvement this year and pushing as hard to
get to the point we are today with these lofty goals.
to one and all I wish you blessings of the season
filled with health and fun family reunions together
with your loved ones.
many of us missed that last year I wish you a year full
of goodness and progress of the film it is very happy
and productive 2022.
thank you.
>> thank you commissioner richard chervony.
I will make mine brief. First of all, the christmas
lights are up and they look great. This is the first
year that I remember not getting negative feedback on
christmas lights. In fact, they look so good that I
would like to see them up all year long.
you look wonderful.
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>> I don't like to spend money on christmas lights but
these christmas lights look really good.
they look really nice.
thanks to the whole staff and I know that megan had a
big role in that and it looks good.
thank you. It looks wonderful and I haven't heard a
single complaint.
we had a bunch of good events as usual, thank you,
helen, for organizing and madeleine and carla and the
police always being present to provide safety and
security.
alleges levitt. I was at the christmas events and the
kids were happy and when the kids are happy the parents
are happy and there's a lot of good stuff going on.
I had an epiphany moment when one of the dad expressed
his appreciation for the christmas event and said we
will see you tomorrow morning at north bay village
soccer.
that's community stuff right there.
that is what communities are made of is stuff for
people to do.
we are making a lot of headway in terms of bringing
people together and that is really important.
another part of bringing people together is to have the
space to bring people together.
we are utilizing the dog park waterfront dust
wonderful.
we are building more spaces and and we build more
spaces we can bring more people together and have more
programming.
it is wonderful.
everyone keep up the good work, commissioners keep
pumping out those community events, it's awesome. I
have one coming up on the 19th, sunday the 19th which
is the recognition of pakistani victory day which is
essentially their independence day, I'm sorry,
bangladesh. I'm sorry.
bangladesh independence from pakistan.
this is an event that the angle? Community in north
bay village brought to me asking us to make this event
a reality.
and so, I sponsored it and help them out but is
something that they are putting together and they are
going to execute it at vogel park and were going to do
it together as a community and I hope there are a lot
of community burrs who are not bangladesh will join us
to bring the community together more and more.
>> I thought you were spontaneously adding events for
next week.
>> no no, it's on the calendar.
>> the other event was referenced.
>> rights.
please come out and join us for that that's all I have
for now. I have a couple of questions for the manager
but I will ask them during the manager report here do
we have a village attorney report? All right let's
have the manager report which is essentially going to
be a question.
>> briefly I want towelcome the commissioner that we
are all thinking about you and keeping you in our
prayers.
I want to congratulate the mayor and helen on all the
work they've done on the harbor bay task force over the
last few months. I know it takes a lot of time,
thought and community engagement so thank you and
congratulations for that. I want to congratulate
commissioner richard chervony on the bridge issue.
even though the outcome wasn't exactly what everyone
had hoped for I think it is a good solution.
we are happy to put together the resolution on that and
I could work out very well. And certainly it is a big
and if it to the residence.
good work on that. I know it's something even
passionate for a long time.
I want to announce in case it wasn't too obvious this
is something we started doing during this past meeting
was a recommendation that we had made at a recent
manager retreat which we make for our agenda items
whenever appropriate and in the vast majority of cases
it will be have asked the staff to put in towards the
end of the item which of the 100 pillars it reflects.
if you look, it will explain if an item supports the
goal of visibility or resilience or prosperity.
we added 1/4 one because not everything fits into those
categories which is efficiency.
sometimes it's about streamlining processes, making
things easy for everyone in getting the government to
cut through the red tape when possible. I want to
thank the staff for incorporating that and that's
something that we will use moving forward that we are
using these four goals in support of the commission.
and finally, in case folks didn't see it we were
awarded the long coveted $1000 landscape grant for the
causeway and we were ranked first in the state of
florida. I want to thank everybody who helped out with
that and because we kept this in-house we saved grant
writing fees.
we are very thrilled.
this is pretty transformative because we do have a
required match which we budgeted this year so we are
talking about over tuna thousand dollars of landscaping
for the causeway.
the timing of the project is that we have to get the
time timing from them before we can do work, we do more
formal designs etc. We should be done in the summer.
this is going to be a big deal and we are very happy
about it.
that's it for me and I'm happy to answer some
questions.
>> I do have a couple.
we observed trash pickup and I know we have it on
thanksgiving and in the past during christmas as well
and in the past you said the workers like to work those
days?
>> they like to work those days because they get
overtime and then they get other days off.
I think folks deserve a day off.
next I would like to see them take the day off if they
want to. I think we can skip a trash day at least in
the residential homes and have the trash picked up
three days later so people can have those days off with
their families if that's what they want.
I would like to see that.
I had asked you about in the past and it's come up
again recently from a neighbor who wants to improve
their home substantially about the question of assessed
value versus structural value on the taxes you remember
this conversation? In terms of the miami-dade property
tax appraiser when you look at your property taxes you
have two values the structural value of your home and
in the total value of your property.
for many houses in north bay village especially the old
ones the structural value is extremely low.
there is some confusion among architects and experts
and I'm certainly not one about which value triggers
the 50 percent enhancement of a property.
>> it is the structural value.
>> right.
to me this is an issue. Is that determined by city
statute or county?
>> no, it is fema.
>> to me this is becoming an issue in north bay village
because the structural values are very low.
there are homes, for example.
>> we are very low.
we are in an ae zone in a special flood hazard area and
that's why these rules apply to the properties.
>> there are homes that have sold in the multimillions
of dollars that people would like to improve but not
destroyed by the structural value is like $100,000 or
$150,000 so it is essentially impossible under the
standards to improve them. Is this not an issue?
>> f certainly heard from realtors and homeowners that
it is an issue.
the one property owner that I spoke to I had said, I
advised him to work with his contractors to address the
issue which I believe happened.
I don't know how much control we have over this. Right?
this is how insurance works.
right?
the goal is to manage risk.
if the structure is only worth $100,000 it's got to be
some sort of reflection of how old it is and where it's
located and what not and that it makes it more
vulnerable to flooding.
the policy between the fema 50 percent rule is to
basically force owners to ring their property up to
base flood elevation and again we are in an ae zone in
a special flood hazard area so we have these required
base flood elevations.
I think the fema 50 percent rule is accurate and I
think is how insurance works, he of actuaries whose job
it is to generate the actual cost of things. In south
florida don't really generate the actual cost of
living. I think a perfect example of that is the right
of condominium associations to waive reserves and not
pay for maintenance and repairs for 40 years until they
have together certification.
right mac the fema 50 percent rule is in place because
we absolutely need to know the actual cost of
insurance.
having property owners elevate the properties when
they're doing improvement is a way to do that.
it is not our role but I think it is there for a
reason.
with that said, the flood maps are going to be changing
and this might be different in a year.
>> the commissioner is right.
everything you said I would echo. Let's take a look at
the fema roles to see what we can delve into more with
this 50 percent enhancement. If there are any sort of
exceptions that we can explore.
>> I would like to give people advice on this.
you know? I don't only understand this. It sounds
like commissioner rachel streitfeld does and if we
could get a referral from a commissioner or two as
common practice?
it seems counterintuitive to me that a resident could
pay many millions of dollars for a house and then have
their structure valued at something in the range of low
hundred thousand for a two-story 400,000 square-foot
excuse me 4000 square-foot house which you cannot
rebuild in miami today.
it's not unreasonable.
the whole thing does not add up to me but I must not be
factoring in all the details.
>>your basing that on risk and insurance more than
anything else.
I think you know an architect to specializes in
historic properties that you might able to refer to
someone.
>> can you refer the name to you. Whether I agree with
it or not it is a fema policy but I would like to be
able to explain it to people and refer them to the
correct sources.
>> at a minimum we could create a policy.
>> let's keep it on the radar screen because it's a
second time I've been asked and it will be the last as
people start to move into their new homes and want to
improve them.
I have one more.
we have done a good job communicating the harbour
island parking policy thank you, helen.
I've gotten some initial feedback on both sides.
my gut instinct on this is that it is going to be
troublesome at first because people don't love change.
what is going to be good in the mid-run, in the long
run because it should open up working spaces to those
people who need them. I am okay with it.
one feedback that I've gotten that I'm sensitive to his
not from one but multiple resident saying what, the
recent park on the street, the people who park on the
street on harbour island are not the most affluent of
the northbay village community. An increase from$25 to
$100 might seem insignificant to you and me because it
is $0.30 a day might affect, this policy might be a
little more regressive than we might like in terms of
going from 25 to 100. I would suggest considering I
don't remember but I think we can provide the economics
of the intake.
if there is an adjustment that can be made in the first
year ago to 50 instead of 100 and then maybe raise the
second car or additional car to offset that, I would
recommend we adopt that to prevent burdening those who
could least afford it with a large increase.
>> a couple of things and I know we are sensitive to
that.
we have already started collecting money based on the
rate that have already been put out there.
but maybe if you already had a decal and pay the $25
you received a credit.
the $100 has actually been changed to $75 because it's
for the people who already had a decal now have a
permit.
>> I'm sorry, if you paid for 2021 you get a to five
dollar credit for 2022?
>> if you already have somebody who has a decal, if you
are in the last series of boats, we gave you that $25
credit.
so you actually pay 75 not the whole 100 and additions
that we haven't charged for over a year.
>> you didn't charge for 2020?
>>right.
it has been a bit. Understand change is never easy but
it's been really affordable for a long time.
>> I'm not saying not affordable I just feel like it's
compelling to me to say that the people who can least
afford it are the ones that are asked to pay it and I
think that is true.
but I think it's worthwhile to have a discussion about
affordability.
I'm hearing from more and more residents about the
affordability issues in northbay village. We all know
that the housing market is wild.
the buyers market is wild but the rental market is
really crazy.
I heard a story of someone who lives in, and north a
village resident whose rent has been raised three
times.
I would like for us to have a discussion about what we
can do if anything to help residents with these
affordability issues.
and so, I understand that we've already gone out and
people are paying a certain price but if we could
revisit, if you are living in a legacy building and you
are a couple in a one bedroom that's $250 for you to
park your cars.
I think we should do the best we can if there's
anything we can do.
>> do you know, do you have a sense of how may people
who have bought the decals for next year? We literally
just released the program, right?
>> number she's talkingindividuals.
>> okay, I see.
I met with the residents today that it artie bought
those.
>> has anyone else gotten feedback?
>> if a person has a problemaffording the parking can
we break up the parking into two payments for quarterly
payments to make it easier?
>> that we could do.
that is probably the easiest solution to implement that
we collect half of the fee, the fee is set were not
changing that we collect the payment over two payments
six months apart or something to give them some
breathing room.
>> that would be my suggestion. I know we've done a
lot of messaging around that issue, we had a lot of
conversations and we start playing around with costing
at this moment.
we could open another can of worms and an equally
sensitive to pricing concerns. I hear them around
residents who are renting and owning which is why a
push so hard on this housing ordinance and again
discuss it more when we can have the conversation.
we all have costs that we have to think about.
we have to charge people and I am also very sensitive
that it is a great alternative to make changes to the
cost and I think it allows folks more flexibility in
terms of a lump sum payment.
>> we can implement that if that is the general
consensus.
if it doesn't require changing the fee schedule that's
just best practice.
>> let's do that.
let's message the residents.
>> let's keep track of the comments and conversations
that we are hearing. Every year we think through these
fees.
>> we've been talking about it for so long that the
feedback has been fine and folks of been coming up with
the amount for their entire building.
>> it always causes a little consolation.
>> mr. Manager in your report notes item 9b which is
the capital improvement projects has a bunch of
descriptions on a project which is basically the
redoing of the.[indiscernable].
>> yes.
>> there is a deadline for submission of ideas for a
project deadline.
>> for environmental feedback: this one is the feedback
they are taking exquisitely based on what would be the
impact on the water. Typically they explain this to us.
the county agency that normally chimes and there's
going to be quite a bit of public feedback later on.
they don't have the consultant in place so they have to
do that first and then they will be making a
presentation to us.
>> so we don't need any direction from the commission?
>> we will.
we are not there just yet.
we will bring this topic is actually covered in the 100
master plan so we will bring it up again if the design
that is proposed is the design that the commission
would like to advocate for.
even with some of the teams that are likely to be the
teams that are selected for this because this is the
kind of work they do.
>> the railing that we got the email about?
>> yes.
>> and the other alternatives to mac I'm saying we need
to discuss this.
>> we do. They haven't selected a consultant just yet
so if several more months but we will put it as an
agenda item early into february, march april somewhere
in that timeframe to get the design feedback from the
commission.
>> I apologize to the mayor not making it to the town
hall there is a deadline of december 27th for feedback
on the insurability with the national flood program
that they are talking about possibly excluding us.
is there something that we need to discuss before that
or something that we can submit or coalesce in?
>>bcc is getting back to us by friday with an analysis
of how we will be impacted by the draft maps in terms
of the in fip and crs. Based on what they say I would
like if the flood maps are going to say we can't
dissipate and crs, it depends on what they say.
I do think we should be prepared to submit comet.
I am happy to do that. I am happy to draftor work with
others to drafts. I don't know what direction you need
from us if you need us to vote?
>> number I need directions as to what I should say in
the comments.
>> yes.
>> we can change some of it but we should all submit as
commissioners to the board.
>> the village would need to submit comments as an
entity.
>> correct.
thus the village but we as commissioners can also
submit comments?
I believe?
>> yes, you can.
>> we have a deadline so at least I'm asking for your
assistance.
send me something in the guidelines that you want me to
say when you get the drafts.
>> is going to be one comment letter from the village
and whatever I recommend to be the village comments e
can also send that letter.
>> please send me a copy.
>> do you need us to vote to do that?
>> we are speaking right now there is a consensus that
you are the lead on this because we don't know exactly
what it is we should be saying just yet but you give me
a general direction on what you want for this we can
prepare something and send it on behalf of the
commission and get the commission to chime in.
otherwise we been working on this for more than a year
and the city in miami-dade county has not been able to
display since 1994 and were one of the cities and there
appeared were basically there and in january we should
be in the system for the first time ever and so to have
things change at this point given everyone's hard work
on the would be a chain.
>> alex was just here for the town hall and marlon was
here also.
we are going to do a meeting, ralph, we are going to do
a meeting with black and veatch who are these
subcontractors who are handling the application.
black and veatch and the crs reviewer, myself, the
manager, marlon will be there to walk through this.
how this will be affecting our current application.
>> wonderful and please send us a copy of whatever it
is the village is doing and then I will follow suit by
sending mine.
>> great.
if we end up needing to submit comments.
>> is your intention doing this privately or publicly?
>> know it is private it does not need to be a sunshine
deal.
>> the commission will give you direction to prepare
your comments and they're not going to provide any
additional input?
okay. If there were you have some sunshine issues.
>> mill.
>> are you asking her to send it to me and I replied to
her he met.
>> after yes that works.
>> thank you for your trust.
>> who is the brainchild on that?
>> divide and conquer.
>> my last comment is to you, helen, in the ranting and
due to patient initiative talking about the bee
dictation of flat bridges that need to be considered in
the planned group with the hearing and that's now not
in 2024 going to be much earlier.
you need to be working on any beautification plan you
have for the bridges, especially with the manager would
depend on the design of the bridges which is for 2223.
>> we will make adjustments.
>> just wanted to bring it to your attention.
thank you.
>> let's move on.
the village report, do you have a report freshman
clark?
>> nothing. Just wishing the commission and residents
a happy season.
>> I appreciate that. I like the tree that's been put
over there it looks niceand festive. The consent
agenda we do have an item on the consent agenda.
do I have a motion?
>> 1185 which is the eco-pod motion.
you would set it because the vice mayor did make a
motion. All in favor?
anyone against?
okay.
it unanimously passes. Let's move on to the first
reading of ordinance is 12 a.
I'm sorry, did I miss 11:00?
were going to come back to those in the discussion
items. They have been pulled to pay let's do the
ordinance and the public hearing first and then we will
do the other items as part of the discussion. So, 12 a
ordinance clarifying etc. Madame clerk.
tell us what?
>> ordinance clarifying the village's use of miami-dade
county area median
income (ami) in the workforce housing program-vice
mayor marvin wilmoth an ordinance of the mayor and
commission of north bay village, florida, amending
chapter 3,?definitions,?
and section 15.2.1.b.,?definition of terms? In chapter
15,?form-based code,?
of the village?s unified land development code (uldc)
to clarify the village?s use of area median income
(ami) and the definition of eligible household income
range for workforce housing units; providing for
severability; providing for
codification; providing for conflicts; and providing
for an
effective date.
>> thank you.
vice mayor this is your item.
>> thank you mr. Merritt this is a follow-up to an item
that we all unanimously approved around workforce
housing piggybacking on the conversation we started
earlier today a number of residents as they have
approached me and it sounds like have approached the
rest of the commission as well around issues with
affordability in north bay village.
one of the great things about the city when I moved
from new york and from other professionals here at
north bay village is you can have a mammy experience
without paying mammy prices.
that is something we need to be cognizant of as we make
changes to the code.
we need to make changes that are smart and not push out
our current residence and this clarification to the ami
percentage allows us to do so.
there's some information by staff and I'm sure they
would be happy to weigh in on anything we missed but we
really want to focus on the folks that teach our
children, the fires, keep our municipalities moving,
the real-life lead of miami here.
with that, I am happy to answer any questions or if
there is one from the city staff that has any
additional items to add I would be happy to do so or if
anyone wants to a motion.
I guess I can make a motion I would be happy to make a
motion yes I would make a motion to accept item 12 a.
thank you.
>> let's open it a public comment.
any public comment online?
>> I see none mayor.
>> public comment is closed.
>> I do have one more comments.
sylvia has been such a trooper on eating me to the
finish line here.
thank you, so much for all your hard work. I know we
went back and forth making sure we got to the number
that we thought reflected the residence here at north
bay village so thank you for doing all the hard work
and the city staff as well for helping to pull this all
together so, thank you.
>> can you clarifywhat exhibit we are adopting?
>> yes.
I wanted to make sure that I understood as well to
clarify.
thank you for your words vice mayor.
we have two versions of the ordinance. The first one
was the one that we took to planning and zoning.
it has the changes that the vice mayor mentioned and
originally we had also recommended expanding the income
range from the current code language which is from 80
to 100 and two race that up to a range of 140. The
ordinance was accepted as such by the planning and
zoning board. However, in further investigation of the
different income ranges and the impact on the rent
which is a very fitting segue to your comment,
commissioner rachel streitfeld, we realized that the
rents, by raising the income limit 40 percent of ami
would also raise the rents.
those are the conversations that the vice mayor is
referring to it we looked at that data and we are
putting in front of you and alternate ordinance that
makes the change from local median household income
back to county ami which is lower.
and, would leave the income range as it is today
without upper range of 140.
as you know, the commission are able to make changes of
the first reading and that is why we are putting that
alternate recommendation in front of you.
this is not disrespecting the planning and zoning
boards vote. I think the planning and zoning board was
more focused on the change from local median household
income ami then rent limit.
we feel that this change would not be disrespecting
their interest.
I guess that is all I will say and I will answer any
questions.
>> for clarification exhibit b is what I'm referencing.
when we did the numbers and am happy to walk you
through it, there's way more research than sylvia
wanted to do but with the windowed 40 ami range were
talking to I to $2600 for a studio apartment. It is
not workforce housing.
>> to me it's never made sense to have something that
goes abovethe median income for workforce housing
because all you get is the average in the neighborhood
you're talking about or higher than that.
I'm not an expert on this but it makes perfect sense.
>>so, 80 to 100 percent miami-dade county ami?
>> correct.
>> how would it affect us if we went 70 to 100?
>> it would essentially lower the income limit for
whatever a family of four would be.
now, through this announcement and sylvia, jump in
whenever you want it we thought that the residents who
live here in bay village and thought through the
profiles of the young professionals that we are trying
to attract as well, we realize that 80 to 100 provides
flexibility.
one, for a young professional or someone who is on a
fixed income so looking at our seniors, commissioner
richard chervony, would be able to fall into that
limit.
[laughter] you said that you were our representative I
just wanted you to know that were thinking about you.
>> thank you, I am learning!
over 40 I need to stretch more!
I'm learning. On the flipside of that we have also
looked at what we are seeing is also the missing middle
and folks are getting squeezed at that middle income
tear as well.
just now turn the corner, you got married, your family
has grown and having that flexibility provides us with
a workforce housing range that really reflects the
current resident population in the village.
what's okay, I trust you. Let's do that peerless go
with the motion to approve.
>> yes. And, to add an amendment to say specific way
that it would be part of the motion to approve.
>> and, he wanted to use a separate language? Okay.
>> okay, we had public comment so we can vote.
>> commissioner julianna strout has her hand raised.
but I wanted to make sure I was on muted to vote.
>> please.
>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
commissioner richard chervony?
commissioner rachel streitfeld?
commissioner julianna strout?
mayor brent latham?
the motion carries.
>> thank you all.
>> thank you for all the work that you did on this.
>> incorporated you, sylvia.
>> okay, public hearings. We have 13 a don't know if
you want to do 13 a and 13 b together?
>> I wanted to recommend that you put them together. I
wanted to offer a very brief intro.
>> please do but let's read whatever you need to read.
>> I guess I don't need to do an intro. We can cover
these well.
>> go head clerk.
>> an ordinance eliminating non-hardship variances-
sponsored by
commissioner rachel streitfeld an ordinance of the
mayor and commission of north bay village, florida,
amending table 4.4.a.1,?public hearings?
in chapter 4 and sections 7.4, 7.5 and 7.6 in chapter
7,?variances,?
of the village?s unified land development code (uldc)
to 8 eliminate all references and provisions related to
?nonhardship variances?; providing for codification;
providing for
severability; providing for conflicts; and providing
for an
effective date.
do you want to go ahead and read 13 b?
ordinance to provide for an administrative adjustment
process in the uldc-village manager ralph rosado,
ph.d., aicp (village planner silvia e.
vargas, faicp, leed ap)
an ordinance of the mayor and commission of north bay
village, florida, amending chapter 4,?administration
and enforcement,? And chapter 7,?variances,? Of the
village?s unified land development code (uldc) to
provide for an
administrative adjustment process; providing for
severability; providing for codification; providing for
conflicts; and providing for an effective date.
>> I want to thank my colleagues for the support on
this effort of the first reading.
we are eliminating one of the two variances that were
available under the heartland development and this will
ensure that our zoning code is followed in a more
regular way and when we remove that non-hardship based
variant we also made sure that our property owners can
build appropriately on their property.
we now have 13 b which is an administrative adjustment
process.
this is the second reading, right? It is the second
reading on this administrative adjustment process so
when we heard it the first time the mayor asked for
some criteria that was a little bit more spelled out
and I think we have that here with us.
I think having these two parallel processes where you
have someone who has a hardship can come in for a
variance procedure and otherwise property owners will
be expected to follow our code.
but when single-family homeowners really have a need
they can go straight through an administrative process
and not have to spend the money to go before the
commission and the planning and zoning board to get a
variance approved.
I think this is a really nice compromise so I will make
the motion to approve 13 a and 19.
>> I secondthat.
>> let's open it for public comment.
nobody online madame clerk?
public comment is closed.
they are probably ready to vote.
okay.
does anyone have anything else before we go? Can we
vote on these two at the same time or do we have to
vote on them separately?
13 a. Let's vote on that.
>> commissioner richard chervony?
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
commissioner richard chervony?
commissioner julianna strout?
mayor brent latham? The motion carries.
>> let's take13 b, on that let's open that for public
comment.
okay, public comment is closed.
let's get a motion and a second on 13 b.
>> a make a motion to approve13 b.
>> second.
>> with emotion and a second so now we can vote.
>> commissioner rachel streitfeld?
vice mayor marvin wilmoth?
commissioner richard chervony?
commissioner julianna strout?
mayor brent latham?
the motion carries.
>> I really do want to thank you all for your
cooperation and support on this.
>> you are welcome. Let's take 13 tran 21 which is the
sago palm ordinance which we added.
>> this is the code to bring sago palms within
specified areas providing for clarification providing
for conflict and implication and providing an effective
date.
>> mayor, if I can add one quick clarification?
this is in 13 c this is actually the first reading of
this ordinance so let's just take note of that.
thank you.
>> thank you.
>> okay, I don't think there's much to discuss, let's
open it for public comment.
okay, the public comment is closed.
I will make a motion.
>> I will second it.
>> let's vote.
>> mayor brent latham?
commissioner richard chervony?
commissioner rachel streitfeld?
commissioner julianna strout?
vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Mayor, the motion carries.
>> let's take a five minute break.
>> do we need a resolution?
for the change of the starting time of the meetings?
>> we could change the resolution for the starting
time.
>> is the same resolution but we can change it to draft
it back into the agenda for the order of business.
>> let's take a motion to change the starting time of
the meeting to 6 pm.
>> I will know that.
>> I will secondit.
>> all in favor?
>>aye.
>> anyone against?
>> I would add the commission always has a liberty if
you have concerns about residence coming in for
something important you can delay things for after 6:30
anyway.
>> we can and often we go beyond6:30.
okay.
we are moving on.
this is yours.
11 a 2.
>> yes peered this item is coming up because earlier
this year we put out an it process for videography
services and that original it q was meant to cover
video services not to exceed $15,000. We have exceeded
that amount.
or, we will be exceeding that amount soon if we don't
bring this to commission. In the it q process the
quote that we got back showed that other companies are
charging way more than real-life studio is charging.
if we put this out to our it guy, what were trying to
do in this waiver of securement requests is to go
forward with a company that we have already been
working with, that we trust and we've had a good
relationship with knowing that if we went out to rp
again the chances are ugly that it will be the same
result.
companies that are charging even more.
and so, we humbly request a one-year service with
real-life studio.
>> mr. Mayor, the language in the code, if you are
going to forgo a competitive process there is a best
interest exception identify in the pew kerman code so
we put that into the resolution.
you doing this because it is in the best interest of
the village to weigh the competitive light given to the
conclusion.
>> the reason I pulled this agenda is because we were
delay said that we were close to running out of funds.
we have a to $5000 videography.
>> we are not running out of funds.
I might have misspoke but what he meant to say is we
are-
>> with the code we can't exceed $15,000 in lifetime
expenditures with the same company without it going to
rfp.
we will be exceeding that amount.
not in this year.
>> my other question is if it was just the one year
extension, I could sort of go with it but you are
giving me three one-year extensions.
we should require an rfp. Maybe we could go with an rf
three without a proper response to an rf two.
>> because it is lifetime not just in this year we are
exceeding 15,000 paid we could go to the rfp again but
we are bringing this up to the commission so that you
guys can or are aware that we are at that threshold and
to at least prove that threshold right now.
>> it sounds like we could save ourselves time and
money from going through this process again if are
going to get the same answer.
>> yes.
>> any of the quotes that we have seen have been
comparable and were with the service they have provided
so far?
>> yes.
>> I don't see an issue with this.
I will make a motion to approve.
>> do I have a second?
>> I will secondit.
>> let's vote.
>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes commissioner rachel
streitfeld? Yes commissioner richard chervony? Number.
>> commissioner julianna strout?
number I think we should go to an rfp.
>> mayor brent latham? Yesthe motion carries.
>> despite the fact that we approve that I was suggest
due diligence in considering if an rfp at some point is
the best thing we should do.
>> we can consider that your.
>> mr. Mayor we are only making the commitment for one
year the options are at your discretion.
>> yes. I just want to make wesure we are being as
transparent as possible which I believe everyone
intends to do.
all right.
11a3 which would be similar discussion.
>> this one is a one-time waiver procurement for events
services. It is not just to utilize this company, had
an rfp for event services however, the company we were
going to eat originally used for the winter wonderland
fell through.
because we have used them in the past in the same with
the last item we will be exceeding the threshold
required for expenditures with the company without
going to or through the procurement process. We went
with a company whichtrust and we went with in the past
and we've use them for emergency purposes use them for
the winter wonderland event.
it would only be to authorize funds for the tour
wonderland not for any other events because we are
going out for rfp for event services peered.
>> I make a motion to approve.
>> I will second.
any other questions or comments?
anybody?
>> the comments that I have and the reason why I pulled
it, it is a reflection on you, helen, because you have
a job right now and you are in the middle of the
process.
it is poor planning from the village point of view.
this event is taking place in 10 days and you're asking
nino to be able to provide a contract to the company
that was proposed way back when?
you know?
it's like hey, bail me out and we stood up and now we
have to solve it somehow or another in here we are a
day before the event we are signing a contract and I
think that is poor planning. I'm sorry.
>> we didn't expect to lose our arrangement with the
previous company peered obviously that's unexpected and
this is a way to keep it on track and be successful.
we needed this for the vendors. We didn't drop them
they became nonresponsive. That definitely wasn't
expected.
>> wind that take place?
>> a few weeks ago?
>> that company, we reached out well in advance about
three or four months ago to make sure because it was
that company was going to provide an ice slide.
it's something that not many companies provide.
so we did reach out to them knowing it was going to be
hard to fill that in december to find a company that
creates an ice slide.
they double book and so we had to pivot and figure out
a different plan.
>> ice-skating.
>> now it is a synthetic slide.
>> I love these events.
>> the kids will be happy, I am sure.
>> so, to me that doesn't resolve the data it's the
best they can do in the situation.
>> it does resolve the issue but I don't think it's
fair to the commission to come 10 days before an event
and ask them to bail us out.
there has to be a backup plan when june event.
>> is sounds like they do.
>> they do. This is a last moment-*custom* I disagree
because the event is still taking place.
>> they should've come to us before and presented us a
backup plan.
>> commissioner richard chervony with all due respect I
don't think it's fair to double plan something just in
case a provider backs out.
sounds like they save the event and is going to be
spectacular despite the fact they had difficulty with
the provider.
I guess were just interpreting the same thing in
different ways.
>> fair enough.
>> I know helen was being very diligently brought it to
the resident services as well.
>> that is a good point. A lot of this discussion
takes place over residence services. Okay, cool.
I think that suffices.
let's vote on the contract.
>> vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes mayor brent latham?
yes.
commissioner richard chervony? No.
commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner
julianna strout? Yes peered the motion carries. We
will have the winter wonderland, thank you.
okay.
11 a number 4 who is going to present it to mac.
>> I will.
right.
>> I pulled it from the consent.
>> I pulled it because I want to discuss it but I don't
need to introduce it.
>> want you go ahead.
>> we worked with everyone on the commission on these
items this involves derelict vessels in particular in
the bay waters to the immediate west of the village.
as you all know we have added issues that have subsided
over the last several months but you don't know when
they can rear their ugly head again.
>>and, a giant advertising barge?
what's we have already reported them.
it is not necessarily easy at the idea is to strengthen
what we ask of our partners because as strict as we are
are not necessarily as strict as we would like them to
be and so we are making a series of asks to amy dade
county and the state of florida, they are in your memo
and I am not going to read all of them but, some of the
key ones let me pull that out.
>> are you looking at the bullets in the
recommendation?
assigning, designated enforcement officers to our area
to make sure vessels are secured and in compliance.
reviewing and adopting code changes to enhance
regulations and provide speedy enforcement for vessels
that are in noncompliance.
coordinating monthly or quarterly compliance
inspections of the commercial vessels with law
enforcement, fish and wildlife etc. Paid so on and so
forth peered these recognitions have been developed
over a time with input on those agencies and orlando
has been the lead on this.
sustainability and resilience task or says given
feedback.
I have given feedback, we've had so many conversations.
these are I think good recommendations that I will
certainly take as a platform to the watershed water
advisory board if we adopt this resolution tonight.
>> is going to say I have one more to add that we
learned about today because it is a new initiative and
maybe commissioner rachel streitfeld knows about this
already but our lead marine patrol officer was recently
asked to become part of the working group cord needed
by the county where they are actually part of a
land-use initiative to be able to control these things
and they are doing an analysis of the types of seagrass
in the area and if there are certain species of
seagrass they can prohibit these operations.
it essentially creates distance requirement is an
intriguing idea.
this was very recent and it just came to our attention
today.
our recommendation is to add this on here as one of the
final bullets so we can transmit to the agencies.
>> where can we buy that seagrass and go scuba diving?
>> it is absolutely fascinating.
there are certain species of seagrass in the areas
above it are off limits and other going to put some
time and effort into looking at the species around here
if they find a variety of them it creates an automatic
preserve. So no commercial advertising, or any of
these things.
>> I want to make a motion to approve a resolution to
increase enforcement and proactive monitoring of the
bay.
by implement in these policies, procedures, code
amendments and retain monitoring of enforcement plan to
include all of the bulleted items as well as the
additional item mentioned by dr. Ralph rosado regarding
the marine patrol working group.
I would like to make sure that we have an executed
version of this resolution and really I would like it
to have all of our signatures, not just the mayor.
I would like a copy of that to circulate to the
watershed management board and other folks at derm
peered.
>> I would second the motion.
>> I agree wholeheartedly with all of this and the
resolution I want to thank orlando for stewarding this
and putting it together is comprehensive and that is
important.
my only I'm not sure it is a doubt and not a nextel
type of thing.
picking a resolution and sending it-you want
follow-up?
>> yes. Otherwise you're sitting at 268 different
people.
how do we get it to move? How do we continue to poke
them?
obviously commissioner rachel streitfeld will have a
large role in her role in the watershed management
board.
I am willing to contact the proper people but we need
some tangible action on this more than just saying a
bunch of stuff.
>> I thought about that.
my recommendation is miami-dade county, the city of
miami and the state of florida if three of you would
pick one of them and make it the lead and identify who
is the appropriate local lead in each of those and that
hopes to raise the tension level on this.
we do need a champion in each of these jurisdictions.
>> who will be targeting the state of florida?
is it our state rep and state senator?
>> it is.
we have state lobbyists as well in the relevant
agencies would be involved as well. We need a little
bit of guidance in terms of what exact levers we
should.
>> I would gladly take on the state senator peered.
>> I think it is more than michael and jason.
it is really.
>> should we seek what action they would give us?
>>yeah, it is ron and ron.
we need to have a meeting with the woman who runs the
bisque wayne bay preserve.
>> I actually asked madeleine to set up a meeting.
I know we are supposed to have a meeting with her on
the agenda at this point.
should we make it an essential meeting or bring her
around?
>> I think it should be a sunshine meeting so as many
of us can be there as possible. We are a force when we
are altogether.
>> okay.
dr. Ralph rosado I have a request with madeleine to set
up a meeting with her and she does have the contact
details if we can just change that meeting to get a
sunshine meeting that luther multiple commissioners can
attend or if she can attend a meeting?
>> at the next meeting the 6 pm meeting.
>> sunshine is easy just have to advertise it.
>> I think the sunshine meeting is the way to go.
>> we will get that set up. What was her name? I am
not miller with her. Laura?
>> laura aldrich?
I will send it to you later.
>> that's fine.
>> okay.
>> that's the state of florida pit the city of miami?
>> I would imagine that's the coastal commission and
that's the mayor. Then I think we need a political
champions we can set something up with commissioner
russell so we just have to determine who wants to be
the lead on that.
>> I am happy to takemiami and the county if someone
else wants to take the city of miami, be my guest.
>> I can do that or I can defer to you. I plenty to do.
>> marvin is already dealing with the county, right
commit.
>> the county with sally?
okay.
>> I don't have any relationship with mayor soros.
>> as the doctor says, I think ken russell is probably
the one we want to talk to on this.
>> I have already talked to him about water protection
on a number of levels so sure, I would be happy to talk
to ken russell.
>> if you're talking about this areaparticularly,
that's christine kings territory?
>> we can set up something with both and we really
should meet her.
>> she is chairman of the board and you don't want to
offend her, either.
>> who wants to somewhat tackle her?
>> no one is tackling anyone.[laughter]
>> it depends. It depends on how the meetings go!
[laughter]
>> it depends on whether it is you or me.
>> I will be the point person with the city of miami.
>> perfect,done.
>> I don't know!
[laughter]
>> done.
>> let me know if anyone needs any help with anything I
would be happy to jump in especially with the maritime
business is concerned. To me that's one of the biggest
stratus of the whole thing.
is jesse exploitation of our bay to make a quick buck.
we cannot have that.
>> we do need to follow up on this.
>> we do. It's not enough just to send out the
proclamation.
>> no but I also want to manage expectations.
what were asking these agencies to do is to impose new
stricter ordinances.
so,
>> is it?
to me I'm not a lawyer but some of these are matters of
interpretation.
sensually the reason there is a marine barge with a
giant billboard on it is because it is categorized as a
vessel.
>> I know.
we discussed it with them and I think that there are
some wins we can get changing the interpretation is
certainly one of them.
but, there are other changes that need to be made and
thankfully, miami-dade county in one week the county
commission approved a boat show in the most sensitive
area in the bay from entities in a year where thousands
of manatees have died. And after the fact, three days
later decided it was sufficient for them to have
goodwill ambassadors that that was going to fix the
problem.
>> but there's a difference in terms of motivation to
act on a show which drives millions of dollars in
tourism and other benefits to the ime area aside from
its negative environmental consequences and advertising
barge that is anchored off the causeway categorizes a
vessel that has no captain, no supplies probably not
even a proper motor or any of that stuff. It has
broken loose from its mooring on multipleoccasions and
has floated away. It's two different masks.
>> I know. Again but not everybody thinks the way you
do and that certainly reflected at the miami-dade
county commission.
and I am sitting on the beach I am being marketed to,
not just in the sky thus been happening for decades but
now they have floating screens on the ocean.
this is the world we live in. We will do our best, we
will lobby and meet with people and use the power
that's been given by our residents and will continue to
push our agenda.
>> the lower hanging fruit is getting them to patrol
these waters more often. If we get nothing beyond that
it is a win.
>> okay.
do we vote?
>> yes I have a motion by commissioner rachel
streitfeld.
>> yes.
we did vote?
let's yes.
>> it was unanimous?
>> I'm sorry, we had a motion but we did not vote.
>> okay, let's vote, shall we?
commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner
richard chervony?
yes.
commissioner julianna strout?
yes.
vice mayor marvin wilmoth? Yes mayor brent latham?
yes the motion carries.
>> correct me if I am wrong I think that brings me to
14 b tran 22. We are moving along.
this is a resolution presented by either dr. Ralph
rosado or his designee he met.
>> I can introduce him and we can answer questions but
we have an employee who was terminated in february of
2020 pursuant to collective targeting agreement he
challenge the termination with the grievance and
arbitration process.
the arbitrator sided with his former office later the
officer to reinstate him and make him whole.
we entered a settlement agreement and the officer
agrees to separate from employment effective september
30th of 2021.
the total amount due is 238,112 dollars and that
includes the position that is budgeted in this fiscal
year as well as a budget amendment to request from the
general fund balance in the amount of wood and
$19,400.47 I do want to say on record that we do have
some money set aside and restrict reserves however we
only need $119,400 $0.47.
chief?
>>.[indiscernable] thank you.
we spoke to each one of you and gave you a full
briefing on what happened with this case from start to
finish. In a nutshellwhat I would feel free to say at
this point is this month makes six years since I've
been here.
when I arrived with his agency it was a fractured toxic
environment.
we had several if you will problem individuals that we
needed to corral and address and work on.
this particular case, like I said, there was an
internal affairs investigation which was substantiated
and there was enough there for us to go ahead and
terminate peer this was recommended by our labor
attorney back in to 15 after he reviewed the case and
the findings of the investigation.
at that point, myself and the ia investigator at the
time were let go from the village for a period of time.
attempts to complete the termination were blocked by
the admits ration and by the commission at the time.
when I arrived back that matter was still pending.
I contacted everybody I needed to including the fdl e
who made it very clear that it was our obligation to
complete the investigation and that was also to provide
fdl e with a copy of the report.
shortly after the investigation was complete or the
process was finished, we went ahead and proceeded with
the termination and the arbitration did not go our way.
I can comment with the findings of the arbitration and
my opinions of the arbitration but ultimately the
arbitrator ruled with the pba in that case. We have
been very successful with every employment labor matter
since we arrived here and that was through lawsuits and
other mediums but this arbitration went sideways on us
and that was something we could not control.
ultimately, this officer had committed violations which
violated our core values which basically violated our
rules of ethics and morals and it was our position that
he could not come back in any way shape or form for
this agency.
in our briefing to you all we explained rfid on that in
the background information that we had.
we made a recommendation to try to find a way to reach
a settlement.
we did.
our attorneys all worked hard to reach a settlement
that we felt was fair and beneficial to the village.
that is where we are at.
carla do you want to comment further on this?
at the end of the day we are trying to change a culture
peered we have been very successful in showing people
the door that needed to be shown the door and very
successful at bringing people here to our agency that
are going to take us to where we need to be as a police
department that is pursuing excellence and the person I
introduced earlier the new officer that we hired is a
great example of that. I highly recommend that the
commission approved this and I am willing to answer any
questions you might have on this but I think in the
briefing that I provided each one of you I was very
thorough and comprehensive and I believe a passionate
as well.
>> thank you.
we do know this is a sensitive matter and it is an
unfortunate incident matter because what I get from you
and what would be fair is to be very open and
completely transparent about all the things that have
transpired anything that would be a better service to
residents then sometimes the situations we and up in we
need circumstances.
I do have a question in way to provide transparency for
residents as to why their tax dollars are being paid
out in a situation like this.
how much, if any information is it possible to provide
the public on the events that transpired that led to
this outcome?
>> let me ask the deputy chief to come out here but in
essence this is a proactive investigation and integrity
test that was conducted by the police department based
on information we have the integrity investigation
revealed that the officer in question was willing to
violate several focal principles and there were
approximately two dozen violations that were
substantiated bringing him back at any capacity would
expose the village.
any action that he took as a police officer if he came
back provide significant exposure to the village in the
extent that the deputy chief and I made several phone
calls to agency heads that really governed law
enforcement and fdl e to the miami ethics commission to
run this case by them and they all felt the same way
that this officer presented a significant liability to
the village and we had to find a solution to not bring
him back in spite of the arbitration rule in which I
have like I said my own personal opinions on the ruling
and it was extremely flawed.
>> is the arbitration ruling in a matter of record?
>> it is.
>> we can speak openly about that?
>> so is the investigation.
we can speak openly about it because the investigation
is concluded and the arbitration is public record.
>> that's goodbecause I wasn't sure about that.
>> whether you want to go into all the details.
>> I don't want to.
the point I would like to make is that the arbitration
because people want to know why we are paying out
$119,000 of taxpayer money.
>> the arbitration found his due process was violated.
we obviously know that the notice and the notices of
termination and all of the little goal obstacles that
chief noriega experience that prevented this from going
forward, we know there were reasons for that.
the judge found it it would be a violation of his due
process.
>> the arbitrator?
>> we have mandatory arbitration.
there's nothing we can do.
>> essentially.
>> there was a 20 month process and the officer was
notified of the termination.
>> the issue, to put in a nutshell is that this
investigation of wrongdoing which there was evidence
was not pursued in the time that you are not the chief
of police at north bay village and because of that we
were unable to terminate the officer based on the
findings which lead experts to conclude that this
individual could not be a police officer on duty.
>> yes.
that length of time that went by was the due process
part that the commissioner was referring to. The 14
months I was gone when I return there was a pending
lawsuit.
he filed a lawsuit because based on his actions he was
skipped on the promotional exam which I had the
discretion to do under the current contract.
he filed an age just termination lawsuit and basically
that lawsuit was dismissed and we won that case and
that lawsuit and after the lawsuit was concluded we
proceeded with the termination.
the reason we did not terminate upon my return 14
months later because the lawsuit was still pending and
the attorney assigned to the case from the village
recommended that we conclude the lawsuit before we did
any action against the employee and that delayed the
process.
that 20 month period is what the arbitrator found to be
a due process issue that they found to be unfair for
the employee.
and again, that was outside of our control.
it happened under the previous administration or couple
admits rations previously and previous commission.
as a matter of fact, they failed to take any action
that was recommended and they failed to meet the
standards that the state required be met for
substantiated internal affairs cases.
>> I'm ready to move on.
>> were dealing with legacy issues.
>> we have to clean up the whole mess.
>> I will make a motion.
>> we have a motion and a second from the vice mayor.
let's vote.
>> commissioner richard chervony? Yes vice mayor
marvin wilmoth?
yes commissioner rachel streitfeld? Yes commissioner
julianna strout? Yes mayor brent latham? Yes mayor,
motion carries.
>>okay, 14 b 2 dr. Ralph rosado we give us an update?
>> absolutely.
the first several slides is consistent to the
information you have heard before so I will probably
skim through those but the idea is we want to have a
document that we could put out publicly that walks the
public through the focus will be on the slides that we
will go parcel by parcel and update we are.
were talking about the island walk in this particular
case and we are referring to the perimeter of the
northern portion of treasure island.
we have a lovely photo of benihana along the walkway.
in the case of benihana, I can go ahead and start this
and we will catch up to the images paired we talk about
the island walk we are essentially talking about two
things in many cases hid the aboveground walkway with
lush landscaping and benches and a righty of
recreational amenities but were also talking about the
seawall that buttresses them.
will create the front variations throughout the
presentation but the reality is it is both things.
the reason why we featured benihana on the covered
delay cover is it is the only segment that has a
brand-new seawall that meets our new design criteria as
well as having an island walk above it that doesn't
quite meet the current design criteria but nonetheless
unlikely to change because it is fully flushed out.
so, you have another image of the rear a daytime shot
of the area behind benihana as well as the rendering of
the master plan of what it could look like if fully
built out.
again, and going to race through the first few because
you've heard a similar variation before.
there's a variety of reasons that make sense to support
the overall project.
it is a public amenity that the public can enjoy all
year-round. We talked earlier about ranting and this
could definitely help us brand the village. This can
bring folks into the village where they can spend hard
earned dollars locally and provides space of the public
paired there's place for public art and we talked about
the environment this evening, dolphins are now
officially part of our logo and not something you can
see if you're fortunate to be your any of these
properties and from a financial perspective all of
these things individually or collectively these enhance
property values in the community.
the next few slides are going to go through quickly.
we've never done a full benefit cost analysis of the
financial value of doing the island walk but we know
based on comparable projects it's very good for
property values and investments you make in
infrastructure and helping to preserve properties are
certainly incredibly valuable and we recognize that
also it helps to attract real estate investment so pays
for itself not only in the long run but in the short
run see if we can move forward.
and so, we looked at two studies one being done at the
macarthur causeway and the other through miami-dade
county and it shows that these things pay for
themselves within just a few years.
okay. From a more technical perspective we have abby
wilson who's been working with us very closely on the
seawall is been done to date so if you have any
technical questions I would absolutely yield to abby
who is available via zoom. Abby, are you there?
is she a muted?
okay, >> sorry.
I didn't know I could unmute myself.
>> not a problem.
we already know the value of doing this as an
attraction and economic element driver but we also had
her do some research on benefit cost analysis for
improving seawall's.
leno that is a structural concern and something that
should be done over time.
think I'm going to have her walk us through this but we
did a boat tour, we looked at seawall heights ended
projections for the value of renovating the seawall
along the perimeter and what would be to preserve
property values given sealevel rise.
if you want to run through some of the numbers that you
all prepared?
should.
>> sure.
I guess starting on this slide we took a look at what
the seawall czar and who is the worst offender and what
that means in terms of impact, if they are not raised,
what kind of impacts can the village expect to see both
from a building perspective but also from an overall
perspective.
due to lower seawall's allow the water to come into the
causeway and increase flooding?
those are some of the items we look at when doing these
high-level benefit cost analysis.
that's just a caveat.
we talk about the benefit cost analysis is a very
specific process that goes pretty in-depth line by line
and that was that first initial look to see what the
village is getting in terms of is it really worth it
for the village to put this money?
what are the benefits they are getting from it from a
high level perspective.
if you would like to move on to the next slide we can
run through a couple. These are a couple photos from
the existing wall.
you can see any harness wall and this is nice and high
but then we have the wall I do believe the top right
picture is near the channel 7 property and this is just
east of 1725 the bottom picture to the property on the
right of the wall is 1725 kennedy and then this is in
that parking lot.
near the best western, I do believe.
that wall had failed at one point in time and I know
there's flooding in that location, currently.
those are some of the items we look at when we look at
the various wall and what is there currently.
so, we did a quick review of the survey data that we
previously collected during our design criteria package
that we had put together for the village and we went
parcel by parcel looking at their current seawall
elevations and this was the lowest point of the
seawall.
we did not take an average but with that lowest point
it does allow water to enter the site.
we looked at the current state based on the highest
king tied on record.
this doesn't just look at the storm surge it looks at
king tied even.
there are two properties, these two right here that
already get flooded during king tied events.
we start to look at sealevel rise and projecting out to
2040 not just in the future but less than 20 years in
the future with the current sealevel rise prediction
you notice there's a whole lot more properties sitting
below the threshold of the king tied. If you look
outto 20 7050 years from now all but six properties
really don't meet that threshold benihana and the other
one is right here.
this almost meets that criteria but is about 20 inches
higher.
if you look at a property of its flooded what kind of
economic impact does that have?
the various king tied events we looked at 2040 this
puts a loss of $10 million.
how we did that, if the property was deemed to be
flooded by an event we looked at the assessed value
obviously understand we went with a large overview with
the public data that was available from the public
appraiser's office. This was a way to not automated
but standardize it we looked at the assessed value.
we assumed there would be a 25 percent value loss for
any property that was flooded during king tied.
obviously the whole building is not impacted it does
cause some issues.
in the 2040 event for those properties that were
flooded we assume there is a 25 percent impact on those
property values and we came up with a value from there.
that is why we are at nine point 45 rounded up to 10
million.
these are conservative number values but they don't
take into account specifics like infrastructure or
dollar losses associated with that loss.
just saying benihana for a restaurant if they are
interrupted service all the days they are lost and
revenue lost during those services we are not taking
into account.
the sisterly from the infrastructure perspective.
and also, two, one thing to note these properties
generate tax revenue in north bay village between one
quarter million to half a million annually new
developments that come along north of kennedy
especially with those higher density allowances and
relaxed height restrictions allow the tax revenue to
increase dramatically but then also comes back into
what are the economic impacts of a higher value
building? Really protecting those properties moving
forward is best in everyone's economic endeavors.
let's go on to the next slide.
>> I can take it.
by all means feel free to chime in.
this is an important slide talk about what is happened
this year.
although we haven't had this item on the agenda we've
made progress in a variety of things including
establishing design criteria for seawall's in the
village and the island walk specifically for this area.
we did not have consistent standards before and I think
we all realize that folks are building seawalls a
different height with different materials without
consistency and we now have a specific high standards
which could help properties for many years to come and
that's very important.
in addition the commissioner this year adopted a design
criteria for the island walk and now we have
consistency in design.
we didn't have it before.
many buildings have it in arrears the easements are
difference in the look is completely unrelated from
property to property and they aren't even joining the
adjacent properties that they developed. We now have
clear expectations some folks would like to go above
and beyond that we at least have these minimums that
are better than what's been adopted in the past so it's
a huge step forward.
in addition and this is big even though it seems
unrelated is closely related and has had an impact on
real estate in the causeway properties themselves have
led to a terminus investment in a short period of time
and we do have a spreadsheet that calculates revenue
for the village we had $94 million of property sales on
the causeway february which is astronomical.
what that does is shows faith in leadership which is
very important but it also means that folks are no
longer deterred or perhaps scared reluctant to invest
in north bay village and we know that these projects
will come forward where they themselves will the bulk
of the work and then finally the fourth bullet is
something I put in because it's a way of been thinking
about it but not necessarily characterized it the
island is one project we didn't design as one thing all
at one time but it is many independent projects with
properties owned by individual property owners and in
many cases we will have a role but it is many things
being put together that collectively will result in one
continuous project.
more importantly, here's the part of the presentation
that is key so we can talk about what the next steps
really are.
next slide please.
these are the parcels that compose it. We have a few
that are actually self of the causeway.
we've got I'm going to go through these in as logical
an order as possible. 17 is grandview palace and as
you know three of the property has been ill for many
years and we don't excite to see changes there.
16 a cell plaza which was completed about two years ago
at this point and we don't expect to see changes there.
the other ones all go through on the other sites we can
talk about them but if we want to leave them up let's
do that.
I will talk about what's going on at the different
properties. Number 7 is benihana there's nothing for
us to do there.
they meet the various standards, etc.
nothing needs to be done moving forward.
the second type of property south grandview palace
there seawall is not as high as we would like but
there's no expectation that that will change anytime
soon and we do have public access but there.
the third type of property is that reflected by bayview
condominium number 6 on the screen here bridgewater
condominium which is number 13 on the screen these were
built approximately 15 years ago. They built some
version of the island walk and in both cases is not as
wide, lush or amenity rich as we would like.
it is not the criteria and there seawall are in good
shape and there's probably not going to be any change
on them for the foreseeable future.
the other property is north plaza that is owned by fdo
t for which we have a long-term lease and we have an
agenda item from january to show you the design that
was more circulated more recently than that because we
do have a full draft and that's one where we are
responsible.
we have a sizable grant from fdo t and next year we
should apply for a grant to help match that because the
project is expected because between 1.3 and 1.6
million.
design is underway and permitting will be underway and
construction could be underway as soon as next october.
>> is that to do the seawall?
>> we don't have funding for the seawall. It does not
meet our design criteria but nonetheless we don't
expect to change it.
it is in relatively good shape even though the we don't
have an interest in doing that. There's no flooding
there or any of those issues.
the next type of property component we have to deal
with is number 15 the connection under the bridges and
for different reasons we've had to hold off on that
because were the only agency interested in putting
money on that.
we do have some grant funding but it is also grant
funding or other funding that competes with other park
related priorities.
there's always been something else whether it's the dog
park where we need those dollars to do something over
there.
this is one that we can move forward with at this time
we can hire a firm and move forward with the design and
get that underway and there's no particular rush to do
construction which is more expensive and there's no
rush to do construction anytime soon but we do have
design dollars for that.
property type number 6 is parcel number 11 which is
best western which has been in a state of flux as the
mayor has mentioned over the last couple of years where
they propose to do one kind of project and then another
and it's changed back and forth.
we have never had an easement over the rear of best
western peer to don't have that presently. Thatsaid it
looks like they are finally moving forward with some
sort of redevelopment plan which in one case we could
require the easement to be in place but it doesn't
appear that any grant dollars or anything would be
needed from the village because the rear of the
property is built out.
what would happen is we would have access over the rear
deck of the restaurant and the tables would need to be
configured a little bit and it does appear we have a
financial role in this but for site plan approval you
all have access to it so we will be contiguous.
so far except for the under bridge part in north plaza
haven't talked about anything the village has to pay
money and that could also be with a few other
instances.
there is a large type of property cohort which includes
properties one through five which are now under
singular ownership or before these were comprised of
different entities and everybody had different plans
and was not moving forward and it was difficult to get
anything done.
that is no longer the case.
the company that owns a tv station but multiple lots
adjacent to them. In fact I meeting with them in a
couple days to go over what the process looks like.
they have not defined what they are going to build but
give 10 waterfront acres in the village and they will
probably do multiple buildings and were very supportive
of the project and it's a very different posture than
they had a couple years ago were they said build a
project anywhere except on the tv station.
they did not have access to the rear because they were
tv station and they were sensitive to having pete will
on the property but that is no longer the issue peer
the tv station will move to broward in which the
building disappears and they have a lengthy walk.
they are one third of the entire project they are
moving forward and we can get this done were
essentially they are doing the heavy lifting and we
have an easement agreement for parcel one and the other
we have agreements with.
the other parcels that will be redeveloped and one has
come with the site plan actually they both come with a
site plan but one of them is making major revision some
minor revisions but we expect one to be on the planning
and zoning agenda on that is parcel number 10 the
overflow parking lot near shockers.
again up with a project and they came up with the
island walk and we will follow the design to atn this
is one that will be built.
they have approached us to be their partner. This is
one where we have a large public and private
relationship that will move forward.
the way this would work is we would have to enter into
an agreement have a sample on the agenda package the
shows we will work with them. We are the grant
recipient and the grant can't go directly to the public
party wu are the lead in that sense.
the matching dollars involved could completely come
from the private entity.
they are saving the cost of design and ultimately
crating their own seawall and we would have to make
sure that design is something that will not flood.
ideally because of this involved we would reimburse the
backend at the grant and along the way we could have
payments from the private property owner.
this puts us in a good position where ultimately we
could get our money back.
the project is filled the grants are closed out and we
have a large section that is completed. That's also
the case of the property to the immediate west which is
graded out of a firm out of new york that both the
parcel earlier this year.
they are moving a little slower and they are creating
more revisions and I reached out to them today to see
where they are at in the process, have they slow down
the project, where are they coming in but they say they
will create the design criteria and they're happy to
partner.
it just depends where they are in the process but they
are comparable.
>> let me ask you a question.
what me stop you there. I have a question about the
logic of that.
I get why the developers would want the grant money to
build a seawall and the island walk it makes sense but
I don't think the village loses anything except some
grant application time in terms of making that happen.
that seems fine.
by our code they are already obligated to do these
things.
if they want to build their buildings they have to
provide an island walk they seawall at the cove.
that's an argument of why would the village do
anything?
we have to spent staff time and commission to make it
happen but certainly why would the village front the
money take any risk?
there is some risk there by don't understand the logic.
>> there is some risk.
if you decide to move forward we could figure out a way
to-
>>mitigate?
>> I'm going to say this as easy as possible but maybe
some additional concessions?
>> it would have to be worth our while.
there would have to be significant concessions in there
because were talking millions of dollars.
I think you understand.
>> okay.
number 12 and this is one where there's more of a
reason for us to get involved but number 12 is kennedy
house.
we don't have an agreement there and is unlikely we
should have.
they are under an issue where there seawall is not up
to code. Having done the building audit they have to
renovate their seawall.
reno they need funding and they would like to be
subsidized and as part of that we would require the
easement agreement that would give us access to the
rear of the property.
otherwise they would break up the continuity.
I don't know if I need to ask lane anything there but
I'm hoping in the next two commission meetings we come
into agreement where we could be a partner on this
otherwise if they paid for everything on their own they
have no obligation to give us access.
this is one where it made more of a difference and I
hear you on the other one where the still room to
negotiate.
>> and, the people are our constituents the developers
are not the people are.
that makes me happy to go through that process of
getting that grant money.
>> it sounds like a great opportunity.
>> they have to do this.
finally, last parcel which I refer to it often is the
whole in the dona and it won't take much beyond that is
the former broadband building more or less across the
street.
we don't know what they're doing.
we never had reached an agreement with them am under
the current configuration they are built to the rear
property line and it's like a private terrace.
it's unclear what they are doing, I hear it is in a
state of flux.
they would have to go out into the water which is far
more complicated and much more expensive.
we greatly hope this is not the case.
finally, on the last slide we will skip through the
other ones but those were slides we already went
through with the individual properties.
if you what to go through the individual presentation I
would be happy to go into detail or not but there is a
range between abby and her firm who prepared a high and
low range for each of the different components.
we have combined together a seawall and island walk,
the north plaza the under bridge connectors and for
planning design and permitting purposes and broke it
out as well in terms of construction.
the very bottom total cost is for doing the most
elaborate version of each of these and going back into
the building where they have a version and the very
high end of this project is not going to be anywhere
near this. I wanted to give you all sort of what that
looked with an overall total. You can see the grant
that we have for the different things and if we were
putting in dollars for the things we need to put in for
which we don't have outside funding investment is not
that terrible it's about half $1 million overall.
that is the under bridge and no one gets a dollars for
that, so on and so forth.
the vast majority is funded by grants and private
property owners.
>> we would be getting some money resume a bully for
the bridge for example?
>> correct.
>> I know that was a lot of information.
>> essentially what it comes down to is yes.
the path of least resents fleet resistance of this
happening and for private investors to build it where
we can help them through our access to funds we would
be willing under circumstances to work with the village
and attempt to do that.
>> are we also helping private developers by moving
forward with design and permitting of the template of
the island walk?
>> by what?
>> the template. We have the design criteria and our
standards?
>> is reimbursable from rent as well.
>> of her moving forward with getting the
conceptpermitted, is that correct?
>>no.
they are all different.
we are not designing the whole thing for everybody
paired we can work with them in segments but even the
first several parcels they want to do a design that is
different than the design criteria that exceeds it.
if we give them something they're not going to design
is somehow wasted. Were not putting out something that
we could actually pull permits for.
these are individual properties and in many cases this
is what it is and it's okay, it's fine but in some
cases there's nothing likely to change.
the instances where there is a role for us, they are
fewer then what they were years ago.
we no longer have to do that.
thanks to leadership.
a lot of these projects are moving forward on their
own.
we had this conversation last year and was like us
having to take on this massive project.
>> there was a point at which things aren't moving in
the seawall is an issue so we could feasibly through
great effort go to great lengths convince party by
party all of them or many of them to get on board to
allowing us to do something with some sort of future
concession from them when they rebuild that would have
made this happen as a complete public project.
two things have happened.
I think that dr.
ralph rosado has it in his presentation but number 1
that was always going to be logistically complicated
and number 2, organically, the path, would call it the
s path at the best path of least resistance has changed
because of the interest in developing these properties
which has become very real over the last 12 to 18
months.
really the last 12 months.
>> it was coming before the pandemic more slowly and it
has been more torrent the last year. The best way to
do it is to let it happen organically.
and to help them where we can.
>> may I add one thing onto that?
I would say the work that you guys did as the village
commission looking at those code modifications in order
to get that seawall into your post to get the island
walk right here into your code and now requires a
development to pay for that on their own versus prior
to that being codified we wouldn't have to do that and
then you would be back in that initial position.
really one that you did early last year prior to them
coming in with all the new development coming in you
really were ahead of the game and you put yourself in
that position to really have the developers do the work
for you instead of you doing the heavy lifting.
>> I was going to say essentially the same thing. I
know when we talk about design criteria it's one of
those things where people say this is so boring but it
was so important to do.
we work together to create the easements and site plan
arrangements for treasure island in harbour island and
they are all over the place where nothing would match
up and there was no consistency on anything.
it wasn't even just one project at the end of the day
it was a bunch of unrelated things going on.
having one set of criteria raises standards and we know
were getting something special.
that was really important but it seemed wonky but it
made a huge difference.
>> the question. I just sat in his chair for the
boardwalk in the bay walk I'm sitting in this chair for
the island walk.
how are you going to convince me that I'm finally gonna
see some thing?
this is all a dream.
>> to that I would say across the street we don't have
to look too far, this was built last year.
>> benihana could be here for 50 years and then moved
next door and then build the boardwalk but what is
going to build the rest of the boardwalk?
>> we have two site plans.
>> we literally developed many of those properties and
so look, I understand where you're coming from I'm also
a will see it and I believe it kind of guy but and we
will see if this pans out.
>> if we see site plans for anyone he of those
companies except for channel 7, they been expired some
two or three times.
it is not a site plan, let's get a damn shovel in the
ground and let's go!
>> commissioner I will say it's a new day north a
village.
>> the commission is right.
he'll believe it when he sees it.
we've seen a lot of things already in the last three
years the people say wouldn't happen and so, let's keep
the faith.
I will.
it's not easy.
there's a lot that goes into the stuff. Each one of
these guys is investing $100 million or more.
the proof is in the pudding but people have bought
these properties.
dr. Ralph rosado said he's moving with the channel 7
folks and they spent $100 million to buy properties not
to sit on them and they are all on board with the
project walk.
>> some of these master plans project managers are
pretty significant. I met with them a couple of times.
>> I don't think you will see a single segment of the
building.
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their pool is far back and will block the bay walk and
we have to look at how we will have to look around
bayview.
the other buildings won't be built for another three
years.
>> it takes a couple years to build things.
>> I would love to see them started.
>> okay. Well, we will see.
next time will tell.
>> what else do we have?
>> that's it.
>> you just wanted to update us?
>> yes.
>> folks ask about the project and there's been a lot
of individual things going on and we have them all in
one place.
>> would be a good idea to explain things in a nutshell
so when people ask they can understand what the vision
is?
all right was talk about under grounding.
give a 10 page presentation for this?
>> it is only seven slides.
no, no slide presentation.
>> I would actually like to save us some time, under
grounding of utilities for new construction in the
proposal to require a private property of owners to
take on this expense is not a small thing.
I would like to instruct the manager to get some
feedback from the development community and provide us
with an eight once they've gotten that feedback.
>> sure.
I wanted to update the commissioner because we had
spoke and there's one person that many of us have
relied upon for construction cost information.
I spoke to paul murphy and he said right of the bat
it's 1.5 percent of construction cost which is helpful.
he was not against it in any way shape or form.
>> right. Yes.
not only that I had reached out to a variety of people
and several of them are represented by white and sirota
and this is common of them and I did notice a pattern
as to what those communities are.
pinecrest, surfside, coral gables are places that they
have obligated from the get-go and I have information
that's been standard for new single-family homes in
unincorporated areas of the county that are not as
affluent.
>> yes, they are requiring sidewalk installations, too.
okay, given that information I would support this.
>> the cost for doing this becomes a resilience issue
as we get stronger storms having underground utilities
is going to have less of an amenity and more of a
necessity.
>> the other thing that is worth pointing out it's much
cheaper to do this while someone is building a building
instead of if they are just rectifying it.
it is optimo they are digging there essentially.
there are a few other cities that I reach out with
arsenal information and would love to put something
else or more comprehensive if there is an interest we
can bring it back to you all for discussion or we can
send it to planning and zoning for the recommendation.
>> were basically not removing the post is just the
electric connection from the post to the house will be
underground?
still going to have the post in the overhang wires
which are in existence right now?
>> there is an obligation on the private side of the
equation.
>> are you thinking of single-family homes which is
fair enoughbut also in the case of the multifamily
homes becomes a bigger deal on harbour island when you
are underground and you are getting the post and lines
off the street in those areas of the city.
>> we are definitely looking at the lines.
>> I don't know.
if you're talking about the underground lines in the
building it's no big deal but for talking about the
electrical lines in front of the building of the
street?
I think we are.
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>> note now you are talking about I don't know I don't
know how this goes.
>> I remember the conversation we hadat pml.
especially in northbay island.
>> is different family home from the multifamily.
>> but still, if you have one person request to have
the overhang along the path you have to have it.
>> can you verify that.
what are we actually talking about doing here?
>> okay. We will do the research on that.
>> not one person in the building but one person on the
line that's requested and wants over hang then you are
stuck.
>>,I have not heard that before but we will confirm if
that is the policy.
okay.
>> we need more information.
>> will bring you back in january with more information
and we could potentially vote if you all had planning
and zoning in february.
>> my question is what does this look like from a
mutual point of view?
in the single-family neighborhoods and multifamily
neighborhoods what does this mean exactly in terms of
what this looks like?
under grounding lines just the main power line into the
multifamily building can't cost 1.5 percent of
construction costs. They can'tbe what were talking
about peer 1.5 percent could be of your project in just
under grounding one mainline, right?
were talking about more than that.
>> we will reach out to some of the communities.
>> does motor have theirs undergroundyuma.
>> I'm not sure.
I want to say yes.
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>> what sort of prompted this is obviously we know we
can't use fema grant for the seawall construction like
we had hoped but we still have the funding and an
agenda item on how do we move forward with that if at
all and there's a few different arrangements with
recommendations if we move forward where do we move
forward known that we don't have all the funding.
in the other thing is that all the vacant parcels on
harbour island have been bought up as well. In many
cases they are luxury projects where it might not hurt
financially as much to do this.
if this is a policy in place by then by the time they
come in with their side plan then is actually
triggered.
once they are in the pipeline we can't change the rules
on them.
if it's something that we wanted to do there is a time
sensitive condition. We will come back on that again
in january. I hear you.
that's it.
>>14 b 4.
>> good evening mayor and commissioners.
I will be presenting this item and I do want to stress
first and foremost is village staff I speak for all of
us who work on events. I'm incredibly proud to provide
services in the community for even part of what I love
most about my job.
the community engagement and outreach aspect it's great
to see the community come together and providing an
opportunity for the community together.
that being said the concept of this item is to
establish a policy primitively to ensure that we are
creating quality programming for the community taking
into account our staff and bandwidth.
in the budget process and before the fiscal year began
reached out to all of you to request a list of all the
sites you are interested in producing the upcoming
year.
we taken those into account is not directed at any of
you it's just a matter of process, not having a
process.
during the year when I'm presenting tonight is
establishing a process during the year where more
events were acquired.
looking at what that process looks like. Internally we
discussed and recommend for you all to establish and
approve any events sponsored by the commission paired
we recommended at least three months in advance that
would be nice.
we know that things come up but ultimately we would
like it to come to commission not just a week or two
weeks before and events.
not singling anyone out not saying this is
happening.[laughter] I'm just saying!
[laughter] we talk about your event so don't worry.
[laughter] anyway, just establishing a process we do
have a recommendation for any new events that come back
to the commission for approval and it is up to you guys
to talk about that but that is our recommendation.
in addition something that's not usually thought about
with events is the additional overtime that is caused
by these events.
we are also recommending that the overtime for events
would require a budget event from the commissioner with
a budgeted line item.
thank you, that is the item for consideration.
>> for example it makes sense to say we need to budget
staff time in a way that is manageable so we can manage
expectations of what we are delivering.
at the same time the first thing is I'm hesitant to
create policies like this because we have an
unfortunate tendency to then point at the policy and
the not do things that make sense because of the
policy.
three months lead time plus the amount of time it takes
to get something on the agenda and then time it takes
for someone to come around is really four months.
and I can pursue circumstances where something might
come up where a commission member might have the funds
and willingness to do the event and it's not four-month
ahead of time. For example, I will use the bangladesh
event that I'm doing how much time have you spent on
that?
>> well, it's not that much time because they are doing
the event.
>> right.
there's cases and ways to do things that don't require
staff time. There are some things that I agree with,
seriously.
>> there are financial costs associated with them as
well.
>> and we have the budget to pay for that.
madeleine came to me and said you're going to cover the
cost for police and overtime and I said yes.
I'm sponsoring the event and I will cover it from my
fund.
I think I am chipping in a few hundred dollars for food
and drinks but madeleine has helped with the liaison
work is certainly not a heavy lift.
and that's it.
I think there are ways to do events that are courteous
and take into account staff time and I would be
hesitant to eliminate the potential to do that kind of
thing without four-month notice and I think what you
are asking for is courtesy from the commission in terms
of recognizing staff time.
I think we should all do that without bureaucratic
ourselves to death with a three-page policy on how it's
going to work.
that's my opinion.
>> we definitely respect helen's time and staff time
and we definitely need a certain amount of time.
maybe to get something on the agenda maybe it's not the
four months it's three months.
we also run the risk of putting on subpar events and we
don't want to be in the position to do that.
also if we have events that take place one or two weeks
between each other and then it doesn't come out way we
want and we have criticism because we didn't have the
bandwidth to do it.
>> I think what could be helpful is a lot of times we
don't know the full amount of steps that go into making
something happen and also if we knew those ahead of
time for example the stroller derby there are groups
that have done similar types of event that we could
call on and draw upon. These events will require you
and others to put their hands on it and it doesn't
matter who is helping because we have a certain
standard and level of event that we want to have.
however if we had that figured out the budget we could
notify vendors, whatever it takes to make one of these
things happen happen. It will be helpful to know as we
think about this is one of the events that will
probably need more than a four-month leadtime and I
have none of the boxes checked this is an event or have
eight of the 10 boxes checked and I need to figure out
a date and tell people when to call.
so maybe the first thing is identifying what it takes
to put one of these events together and working
backwards.
>> I do want to bring up I think the mayor and the vice
mayor bring up good points.
no event is the same and they require different things
going into each event.
hope puts us in an uncomfortable position is a never
want to be in a position where I chose one
commissioners event over another commissioners event.
so having a process would be helpful to ensure that no
one is above anyone else.
that is my concern, personally, in addition to being
courteous.
>> personally I try to make an effort when I encourage
staff to do a minimum.
to the extent of this I would say to staff's credit
many time the staff gets involved more than they need
to be because you want things to be good and you go
above and beyond and that's fine.
it shouldn't come at the expense of not doing things
that the commissioners want to do if we say to you
look, again, this thing with the saturday soccer and
said to you guys I don't need you guys at those things.
it's not necessary I don't need staff at that stuff.
is not necessary.
I don't want you to work while you're on vacation like
I don't need you to work during holidays if I need you
I will ask but I don't want you to give up the ability
to do things because staff needs to be there even
though you don't need to do it.
you know?
>> their concern is around accountability?
even if I was having an event and again I'm going to
keep calling on this because you've called me out
tonight and going to address it and be defensive,
totally kidding.
for example the stroller derby.
not only from accountability perspective but I think
the chair of our events, helen, you have a certain
standard that you want to see that we are all
accustomed to, quite frankly.
it's different to tell someone who's accountable for
something that they don't have control of what's going
on because everyone will be held accountable for
something that happens if it goes sideways I'm not
going to call the vendor going to call someone at the
city.
>> vice mayor appreciate your sentiment I want you to
know I will be accountable for your stroller derby and
have to accept that.
we have to let each other live and do our thing as
well. It's also part of it.
were saying ambiguity and imperfection to all of this.
>> I have a question.
>> I'm sure the stroller event is to be great I'm not
knocking it.
>> can I be the baby in the stroller?
[laughter] ask my kids way 100 pounds each so I might
as well push you around.
>> the hanukkah events.
when I got there I encountered a small problem that
required public works.
and when I spoke with carla about public works, public
works was not around, they were not there and it would
be a four hour call back.
I've no idea who paid for the police budget for that
event.
nobody asked me to cooperate and I think that
commissioner rachel streitfeld was a commissioner who
footed the bill for that one but I'm no idea who put
event together in the village and the police were there
and they got paid.
>> that was not a commission sponsored even in I don't
know the answer.
>> who was it?
>> it was the rabbis event.
>> did the rabbi pay for the police?
>> number.
>> did the rabbi pay for the menorah?
did he pay to put up the candles met.
>> number.
>> think god someone was there to change it.
these are the things that come in question with who is
responsible for the payments like we said are we
responsible for the payment end of course. If we
propose an event.
we are responsible for the payment of our event.
but, if something just happens to take place and we
need the people and are not there.
>> I think a checklist would be helpful to the folks
know what it would take to put on an event and then we
talk about want to do something next week you can say
well, here are the lists of the things that you need to
do to make that happen next week and we can't
physically make that happen or, it looks like all the
things are checked we just need to figure out a time
and publicize it.
>> I think that is good thinking.
that makes sense.
you can come up with a checklist that includes all
these things and essentially the burden is on the
commission to provide those things or we can't do the
event.
>> that sounds good to me.
>> awesome. Thank you guys.
>> starting after the stroller derby!
[laughter]
>> that was accounted for!
>> those going to say the off duty for the menorah it
was all on duty there was no off-duty police officers
involved.
>> if there would have been a call would be the officer
at the event?
>> we were well staffed.
with seven officers.
>> talking about that for next year.
>> we are a very low crime city.
>> if it happened elsewhere or by been a different
scenario.
>> let's go that route, let's try that will come back.
>> him on board.
>> the mayor didn't do what he said.
>> and, if it were any event it's the mayors fault!
>> I am willing to shoulder that.
I get a credit for these things, too.
all right.
>> two more items.
>> they are both mine and we will do them we have to
work through these.
14 b6 the short-term rental update and code provision
13.9 b. I have three items that I would like if I
during this discussion. One is specifically the code
provision13 9b, the concept of a legal memo and clarity
on what is being done and I want to clarify that
clearly.
then, the third is going to be our attempt to
communicate our code and effort on s tbr and in an
accessible fashion.
let's start with code provision 13.9 b. I have provided
a series of emails from residents regarding this for.
background there was a I guess it was a call, it's hard
to describe it as a call to police, sometime in early
november.
this was about a sports car driving erratically through
the streets of north bay village.
I guess they went out of north bay island in the
evening and then back into north bay island the
following morning around 7 am at excessive rates of
speed.
the sports car along with others, or another or others
was delivered to a vacation home. That caused a series
of emails to me and other staff members, dr. Ralph
rosado, chief noriega, the deputy chief, code
enforcement supervisor orlando and others lodging a
complaint about the speeding vehicle which was
responded to I will ask the chief what the response was
in the response was strong and presumably adequate. We
were asked what was the response but I want to get to
the point of this particular part of this item which is
that the response though it did include many steps it
did not include an immediate call and insistence on the
part of our police that the representative of the
short-term rental come to the site within 60 minutes.
the code which orlando has and can read to us and this
is where we get to the thing that I want to discuss the
code is relatively and I know everyone doesn't say this
but it's corrected is relatively ambiguous as it does
not a specific course of action for our police.
it is vague.
we will read it and then we'll talk about what policy
is and what some residents have said they think the
policy or they think what they would like the policy to
be and then we will go through the discussion of the
back-and-forth which was lengthy and then we will try
to come to an agreement with this art of the code.
orlando, two things. Can you describe to us what
response was to this incident and then describe to us
that part of the code in the policy that is being
followed at this time and then I will describe what
residents would like to see.
>> good evening mayor, vice mayor and commissioners
will let chief noriega respond to the response.
>> good evening, I don't have the specifics on the call
but I do have a recollection on what happened around
11:30 that evening there was a call of a car racing out
of north bay island onto the causeway and into the city
of miami. We responded and there wassomewhat of an s
tbr 7700.
our units responded there was no car to be found when
they arrived so they kept an eye on the house most of
the night.
that was a midnight shift and they work until 7 am.
round 7:30 a.m. The same car returned and the sergeant
who work that evening was on his way out, he heard the
car go out and return.
in the meantime was responding to emails around
midnight to the complainant who lives on miami view
drive.
I was also in communications with the sergeant who
responded who advised that the car in question was gone
on arrival.
around 7:30 email started again in the sergeant
responded to turn back around and responded that the
car was at the house and immediately made contact to
people who were occupying the house.
turned out that the people occupying the house and
orlando can correct me if I am mistaken on this were
friends of the owner.
they were in town from france.
the sergeant basically told him why he was there, what
the complaint was and if they were caught behind the
wheel what they were exactly accused of doing that they
would be cited and or arrested for reckless driving.
while this was going on I contacted orlando who is
trying to get a hold of the property owner and I asked
orlando to give me that number so I could.
>> commissioner: them.
within an hour I was on the phone with them and I told
them what was happening needed to stop immediately and
if we were to catch those folks at that house driving
like that in a reckless manner.
from that point on there were no other incidents at the
house. The manager said he would contact the tenants
or the friends and would address the problem and make
sure it did not happen again.
that problem was handled appropriately in another
challenge we had was the complainant wanted the driver
cited unless we catchy behind the wheel committing
those illegal acts we cannot cite you.
that was handled immediately by on-duty personnel
making contact with the tenants, us making contact with
the property manager or owner and we had no other
issues in that particular incident.
that being said I spoke with orlando and we agreed that
a citation would be issued to the property manager
which it was.
so, that is my recollection of the incident.
>> thank you chief.
>> thank you chief, that is correct.
the goal, always, for code is compliance.
our approach to that is one of doing things in a lawful
manner, interpreting the code with a reasonable person
standard and reasonable practices.
somebody perhaps who is not in this field could read
this section and interpret it in a way that it would
require what would seem like we could require someone
to show up and essentially execute an impromptu
subpoena of a free citizen to show up where it code
officer, police officer wants them to be within the
matter of an hour and somehow think that is not a civil
liberties issue.
in light of that insight them with $1000 is not lawful
or legal to expect.
that is why this section where it says we can require
someone.
>> can you read that entire part of the code?
>> 13.9.
every commercial representing must be physically
present at a vacation rental following notification
from a vacation rental occupant law enforcement officer
emergency personnel or the village for issues related
to vacation rental and shall be present at the location
in a timeframe when requested.
our policy which is approved by the deputy chief and
myself and ran through the manager village attorney,
code enforcement attorney and which is we would require
the presence of a representative during a true
emergency or if we confirm multiple violations at a
property. For example, if the car went to a property
as it were with those lamborghinis they completely
disregarded the officer.
they continued to race down the street or have allowed
party we would have to go back again and confirm the
second violation.
now this is a continued problem where we would escalate
what our enforcement would be to gain compliance.
so that is what we do.
emergency or confirmed repeat violation would be the
only reasonable reasons to have someone come out.
so, the idea that this impromptu subpoena of a person
who arrived at our discretion because we felt like it
would constitute a $1000 fine or strike against her
license is something that is not reasonable.
I understand it is not clear in this ordinance we agree
with that it's one of those things we are absently
going to clarify when we redo the ordinance and not to
create it as a strike because us not going to happen
and not to obligate the person to be there within an
hour because there is a violation is not reasonable.
we will clarify that to make so that only in an
emergency or on a case-by-case circumstance or we need
additional assistance to gain compliance and in our
track record of the last few years has not been
necessary.
our violations in 2028 we issued 52 citations for
properties operating illegally without a license
blatantly.
this year to date we've only had 18.
I'm going to keep drilling a down because him going to
keep repeating it, it's a top priority for us.
stvr's are top priorities.
where we were at two days ago to where we are today,
are there more stvr's? Yes.
but there are less problems with stvr's.
regardless we are not putting our guard down.
our zero-tolerance policy shows in the numbers and what
is going on.
she we feel that this reasonable standard is the way to
go and it is a lawful thing.
our attorney can clarify if you need clarification on
why we can't subpoena someone on the spot but I don't
know if there's any other questions are not.
>> I will asklegally background for this but let me
give the residential perspective on this and what
certain residents have told me.
the interpretation by the residence is, by some of the
residence, those who contacted me and many of you were
copied on the emails is that the city should insist
that the representative of the stvr arrive when called.
anytime there's a violation we didn't define this in
the interaction with the resident but anytime there is
an interaction with the stvr when arriving with the
seriousness of the strike that the manager should be
called to the scene and they should arrive within 60
minutes.
this is the point of view of the residence.
that is their interpretation.
we should do that as a code enforcement or a police
force call the manager of the stvr and check in within
60 minutes as an enforcement tool.
reason they feel this way is that these stvr's when
they create a disturbance are creating a disturbance
and quality of life and well-being of the residents of
the island so they feel that it is legitimate and
correct to then cause an inconvenience to the manager
of that stvr and you can understand that point of view
certainly is justifiable to think that way.
it makes sense from a certain point of view it makes a
lot of sense.
>> I seen that and I know the exact quote is let's
bother them.
unfortunately, let's bother them is not a code of
ethics or any performance standard that any ethical,
professional enforcement agency would have as a policy.
is this not a performance standard.
let's bother them is not what we do. We strive for
compliance.
not answers that.
>> let's say, what exactly is the policy at this time
in terms of making calls?
there was a policy memo dr. Ralph rosado.
>> yes.
>> what is that?
>> is in the powerpoint.
we have committed to calling them upon confirmation of
a violation is what we did with the lamborghini issue
which was the only issue we had the entire month last
month.
>> calling them but not insisting they came to the
scene.
>> not at all. Unnecessary. We call them we inform of
the violation and we follow-up and also we have added
the information to the monthly report as promised in
this month we've updated all the police activity for
the month which is a request and we committed through
calling them and strengthening our ordinance is what
were going to do.
elekta said, I don't know if it really needs to be
clarified that the impromptu request they are well
within their rights to not show up and we cannot
consider that a strike.
>> essentially you are saying if you were to call them
and they were not to show up essentially nothing happen
here there's no further enforcement you can take when
they don't come despite in the code it says they
should?
>> right.
>> okay.
>> whenever you want to hear from me?
>> it's time now. I think we need to establish this.
>> we revamp the ordinance can we try to see what can
be done? As far as them not showing up for that to be
a fine I don't see it happening and correct me if I'm
wrong mr.
attorney but we definitely could have bothering them
isn't a standard it is not a performance measure for
code violation for what we do.
we document code violations were going to have the
strikes reduced in the ultimate goal is to stop the
nuisance.
if that gets done that is the goal.
we obtained compliance so listing someone to come over
it does not cause everything. It would give someone
satisfaction that we got them out of bed and they had
to come over.
>> let's ask our attorney to do a pine and let me
specifically ask.
if we were to say as a commission which we might like
to say, we understand what the code enforcement
supervisor is saying and yet we want to take the point
of view and of course I can't speak for the commission
until he vote on this but I'm saying if we were to say
this as a commission we would like to instruct the
village manager to insist that a call is made to the,
per this code, this section of the code a call is made
to the supervisor of the home insisting that they
arrive on the scene and I guess the code does not
prescribe what the next step would be and that's a
problem but presumably the step would be further
enforcement action based on that person arriving or not
arriving on scene within 60 minutes.
if we were to elect to want to do that with that a
tenable course of action?
>> I'm not sure it is.
there is no ordinance so far that we been able to
uncover in the state of florida that allows the
municipality to sanction the responsible party for not
showing.
there are ordinances that do what north bay village
does which is mandating an appearance on scene if
demanded.
the next step is not there.
punishing you for not showing you know, I'm not sure
that the village has the legal authority to compel
somebody to appear in a situation like this.
we are looking at it.
where there is liability is where the responsible party
is contacted and refuses to take necessary action.
if they don't take action we can get them for a code
violation but forcing them to appear if they choose not
to appear we haven't finished all of our research yet
but there doesn't appear to be a whole lot of support
for this proposition that they could be fined for not
showing when they have been contacted.
>> let me ask you a related question and I don't want
to get too far off field specifically related to this
insistence on appearance, it seems like it might be
possible to mandate that someone lives at the home do
we talk about that?
>> that's one of the amendments that were looking at in
fact I brought it up and there's three things that were
brought to orlando's presentation just that we could
look at, owner occupied situation eliminating the
number of vehicles that are at the residence and also
the posting of a bond.
>> I don't want to get all over the place but I asked
that question to specifically say and again I'm not a
lawyer but if we can mandate someone to live at a
property can't you mandate them to show up at a given
time?
aren't those similar items?
>> I'm not sure sure they are.
>> sorry to interrupt.
these are different legal rights under those two
different scenarios.
I know there was a request for a legal memorandum in
there was some shack when we said we were going to fund
the statewide search and tracking of all stvr related
ordinances in the various challenges being waged
against them but I want to reassure people that we are
deftly taking the advantage that we pay lawyers to
represent us.
they are researching all of these ideas.
>> commissioner rachel streitfeld will get there.
>> I'm not finished.
one thing, if we can't compel someone to be living at
the residence, if we can't compel owner occupied we
might be able to say if you are going to have a home as
a short-term vacation rental that can be considered in
the sense of in some sense as a public use and so we
could require that short-term vacation rentals have to
be ada compliance which might disincentive I someone
from having a short-term occasion rental.
>> let me be clear we are not reaching a legal
conclusion that you can't require the owner to occupy.
there's at least one jurisdiction that apparently does
that.
the idea that compelling a property owner who is not on
the scene to appear and then find them for not
appearing as of today I think you are going too far.
>> you will have to provide reasonable notice and an
opportunity to be heard.
>> okay.
I think there's a problem to begin with in this part of
the code, now we spoken about it for some time we have
arrived at a problem which is even if we do compel
someone to come out within 60 minutes and they don't
show the code does not provide for any next action that
we would take.
that is problematic.
I don't mind asking to compel someone to show up. I
think it is toothless right now.
if her going to have that in the code we have to add
teeth to it.
if we can.
>> like I said the compulsion to appear does appear in
some other codes but we haven't found any code that
says if you fail to appear there will be sanctions
imposed against you for not appearing.
it is a two-sided thing your compelling people to
appear and if they say no I'm not going to appear what
can you do about it?
not sure there's much you can do but were not done with
our research.
our goal was to provide you a something in early
january and we are working diligently on it.
>> that's fine.
I was asked to bring this forward by the residence and
we did it and I didn't think it through to this point
because the next thing I would like to do is to insist
that immediately we start calling the manager but now I
realize that even if I insist on the and the commission
were to vote for and change the policy and compel the
police to call the manager within 60 minutes.
>> let me interject.
requiring the owner or the responsible party to be
available by phone to accept the context is a
completely different situation than requiring them to
appear on scene.
the idea is if you don't respond to this context within
an hour or whatever timeframe you're going to come up
with that could be a code violation.
it's far different than requiring that person to show
up on scene at his property.
you are putting the person on notice that there is a
problem of the property and it goes a step further if
you don't fix that problem we can find you for that.
that is far different than saying not only are we
calling you and advising you that there's a problem at
your property you must show up and if you don't show up
are going to find the that is a leap we are not willing
to make this yet.
>> at that point if we are calling them we've already
confirmed violation and we are citing them would be the
only reason we would call them and in many of the
ordinances we've looked at the section about duties of
vacation rental representative seems to be a copy and
paste that is in everybody's code this just been
something that everybody hasn't cooperated.
>> there are some departures in fact one code we found
requires the property owner to evict the tenant if
there is something in that condition. You legally if
you evict some person they usually long gone.
I understand your goal is to have the strictest
possible I don't know if the entire commission feels
that way but the idea is to have a strict ordinance
looking at ways to make it stricter and tighter without
going too far.
that is sort of what we are working on right now in the
concern about the appearance by the property owner or
the responsible party is something that we are looking
at.
as of now I don't see how we can commence that person
to show up if it's a failure to appear.
even if it's an emergency like there's a fire on the
property and you have a tenant that didn't turn off the
burners and it started a fire I still don't think you
can compel the owner to show up on scene even as his
property is burning down.
you've contacted him and he needs to take an action to
ready the situation but beyond that I don't know if you
can sanction him for saying I don't want to deal with
this.
call the police.
we are not there yet I'm just offering information on
the situation.
>> are there any additional measures we can take. The
three instances that come to mind are swift to
deliberate and in each case successful.
if we have to go further we contacted the property
manager and we got immediate compliance and it put each
issue to rest immediately.
looking at next steps at this point, I don't see the
reason why if the steps we have in place resulted in
these three cases of a successful outcome.
we have been seeing that with these types of cases.
we are getting successful outcomes so, that's just my
two cents on the.
>> we saw no more issues the rest of the weekends. We
accomplish the goal which was getting a strike against
the property and we stopped the nuisance.
>> I'm trying to get through, the feet back that I
would get under these circumstances. It
seemsreasonable to me when I am being told.
I can't think for others.
even though we think we are relatively sure that we
cannot enforce or insist that a supervisor arrived on
scene within 60 minutes can we still call and ask them
to come in case of a violation?
>> absolutely.
there's no doubt about that.
>> okay.
and until we come up with a new policy, we are coming
up with a new protocol in the coming months, were
talking about a month or two months.
in the interim as we are working on the code, dr. Ralph
rosado, can we institute a policy if we have an
incident that arrives at the seriousness of creating a
strike against the property and asked the
representative to come to the property as indicated in
the code, what happens after that, I don't know.
>> mayor, when we have the multiple meetings with the
two various stvr groups we committed, the initial
demand was we want you to call them and we committed to
call them and we did that.
and then there's a violation you have an issue at your
property we are putting you on notice.
having them come out once it's resolved serves no
purpose.
we also agreed if it's a repeat violation or something
of a serious nature that does become an offense of the
property we are going to tell them to come out here.
so we can meet and get this resolved.
and so we are doing that already.
>> okay.
I'm going to trunk this discussion as a show of good
faith for residents who are truly concerned about stvr
this may not come into play because we've had limited
stvr incidents in the last couple of months but in the
interim between now and these two ordinance can we put
in place a policy that is part of a strike creating
incident we call the manager and tell him or her to
come out?
that is what I would ask for.
I don't see the downside.
there's not necessarily an upside but I don't see a
downside and again-
>> when there is a threat to the property?
>> again, we have to establish criteria in the policy
but to me the criteria seems like when there is an
incident we have a list of incidents that causes a
strike against a property I don't know what they are
now but noise, etc., etc. When something like that
happens the policy would essentially be hey, stvr
manager there's an incident that's occurring that will
cause a strike against your property you need to come
as part of our code it says to come and what happens
next I don't know.
>> we can probably work something out in context but
using the noise as a specific example we would come in
and say to call them we had a noise violation okay.
having them come out after the noise violation is
resolved?
>> actually think people would universally agree that
we want to be careful we are in a public forum.
my question is, can we do that?
would we be willing to do that?
in the interim.
>> yes, we can call.
>> in the interim between now and we have it because
were going to clarify the code.
>> we mean by call, call or have them show up?
>> what I hear the mayor saying is call and require
them to show up.
but we can't go past that.
>> forget what comes next.
suet to the code come to the property.
>> mayor, that is what the code currently says.
>> says that. So that's the crux of this whole
conversation that we been outlining for a half-hour is
the current code allows us to do that and the residence
or say why are we doing it?
nobody is here to have a discussion about the logic of
it or what comes next or just saying look.
>> the other part of the code says it's up to the
discretion of the officer on scene and the police
department to decide whether or not it's really
necessary to have that person present.
lexi can interpret that from the code that is the
policy.
>> yes. I don't think the code prescribes that either.
it does not prescribe anything.
okay?
>> what I would like to see not removed from the
equation is the officers discretion.
if something is reasonable or unfounded then it stops
there. And no further action. Just because someone
called in and said there's a loud party at the pool and
we arrived there and we hear very low ambient music
that is something that we can ask them to lower it more
but I don't think that should rise the level of having
a property manager come out because someone called in a
complaint about loud music.
>> of course.
I don't think that's what were talking about.
>> 8c those thresholds or standards removed.
>> gift of a scenario where it doesn't trigger and you
need to come over here now.
>> let's say something like exceeding the occupancy
level.
yeah 18 people staying in this home, this four-bedroom
home, clearly that is a violation and it needs to be
addressed so how do you address that?
mr. Property owner you have to come out here you need
to address it and people say you don't address the
problem you're going to be fined for it.
if you don't want to come out you don't have to come
out but were finding you for it if were not addressing
the problem.
it doesn't say that in the village code.
that is a step that we should deftly take.
>> that's correct.
if we can't go the route of that were also going to
find you for not showing up, certainly we can find
people for not remediating the problem the property
owner once they been contacted.
>> it seems like we can and this is an interim measure
what we fix this. If we could and again I think you
need to define the criteria but the criteria for me the
simplest one is if we determine the violation that
causes disrespect to property if it doesn't arrive to
that seriousness it wouldn't be something that you
would call out or reason to call someone out.
we can agree to do that in the interim more than
anything it is a show of good faith to the residents
that we would like to see this and that would satisfy
think that would be satisfactory.
so we do have an agreement on that?
again, I understand.
I get everything that's being said and I don't agree
with a single thing okay?
so, if you agree unless something is stated differently
I would like to discuss it further.
we are in a public forum.
all right.
nothing further on that pure the next two points should
be relatively quick and then the other items are quick,
too. The next one is the legal memo and commissioner
rachel streitfeld started to speak about this and she's
correct. Thank you, chief and deputy chief.
I think there has been some misunderstanding as well on
the legal memo, dr. Ralph rosado described it as a
binary choice the fact that we did not decide to
proceed with the legal memo as interpreted that there
will not be any legal research done in terms of putting
this together it sounds like we are doing a lot of
legal research.
I don't know how this gets conveyed but I would like to
dance I will try to convey it but how do we convey what
legal research is being done and what is not being
done?
>> I might have to ask the questions of your finance
department but when our law firm since bills to the
village I don't know how it is broken down but to the
extent to which it's broken down we go through time
with different things and we describe spending two
hours reviewing the city of destin ordinance on stvr
that should be in the bill. All of the hours we are
spending on stvr should be in the bill and I think we
receive some of it you pay a retainer to the firm but
our time is still baked into that.
if I have to account for eight hours I'm going to say
two hours spent on stvr research, one hour was spent
leading to a court decision and we can clearly try to
break that down for you if that would be helpful and
show the amount of time we are spending on this but it
is part and parcel.
>> that is one thing and we can understand that the
next question is there are specific cases that are
pointed out saying what about this or what about that
and in the follow-up question is how do we know if we
don't comprehensively review everything?
but we are.
it would be negligent for us not to do that. We can't
recommend to a client to take certain steps tiered we
have to be able to provide you with the state of the
law today and granted this is an extremely fluid
situation.
but I don't know how many municipalities there are in
the state of florida but many of them have short-term
rental vacations.
>> over 500.
>> we are looking at the one set of been challenged.
the leading expert of vacation rentals in our law firm
and speak certainly throughout the state and even
internationally on this stuff. We have a good body of
expert in the firm that's been looking at this not just
for you but for other cities, too.
we feel comfortable with any recommendations we make to
you that have been thoroughly reviewed.
by all the top people in the firm and we have looked at
all of the ordinances and court cases and the attorney
general's and having any relevancy.
>> one quick thing, it's been mentioned to me and I
think this is interesting and daytona beach was
referenced. Some cities might have provisions in their
laws that predate the preemption that you can go back
and interpret it in such a way as to complicate or
prohibit stvr's. Were you familiar with that thinking?
>> read the email but I'm not familiar with that
thinking.
>> we can have a side discussion about it and see if
there's something there or not.
I'm not familiar with our entire land use code before
2011 either.
there might be something there.
>> there was an email in reference to one marco island
was doing and that was a mischaracterization of what is
going on in marco island.
so, essentially marco island is dealing with other
issues related to stvr not like what we are dealing
with in north bay village.
the things that have the most teeth are the island and
destin and those are the ones we are modeling our
ordinance amendments after and there are cities who
have tried to go further and they been challenged and
lost.
all of that will be baked into whatever recommendations
we offer and there will be some sort of memo that comes