[0:04] person Doug and I work. How do we spell?
[0:30] » I'm going to start the recording.
[0:33] >> Recording in progress. Now that we are
[0:35] recording,
[0:37] this is the September 8th meeting from
[0:41] the village of North Bend
[0:44] and we will call this meeting to order.
[0:47] It's 6:59
[0:49] and counting. Um so our first order of
[0:52] business is to address our public
[0:54] attendees. We have several in the
[0:56] audience. Lori will note them. We'll
[0:59] have them noted in the minutes. U let me
[1:02] first ask if there is any one had any uh
[1:06] changes to the
[1:08] agenda. We won't add items. We can
[1:12] postpone if need be and we can reorder.
[1:17] Hearing none, we'll move on. Uh oh, hold
[1:20] on. Got somebody coming in.
[1:28] Lori, this is a Michael Miller joining
[1:32] by Zoom
[1:35] and Mr. Miller or whoever is using your
[1:40] name there, should you wish to
[1:43] say something, please feel free to do
[1:45] so. Um, but right now we will
[1:51] see Mr.
[1:52] here in the audience and
[1:55] floor is yours for a few minutes. Mr.
[1:57] Flory.
[1:59] >> Yes, floor is yours.
[2:02] >> We come here tonight because even after
[2:05] one or four cases and all their homes
[2:08] are still blocked from town.
[2:12] We wanted to speak on the drainage work
[2:14] done at Mechanic Street. We want the
[2:17] trustees to know that in 1986 under the
[2:20] direction of bug honor
[2:23] we dug the pipe across the road with our
[2:26] chamber back ho
[2:29] supplied material we did labor for free
[2:33] again in 2001
[2:36] after we put all 40 acres in we just
[2:40] moved under the road for my bike flat
[2:43] put the black village said 20 ft wide
[2:48] 24 ft. We taught the people walk in 24
[2:52] ft
[2:54] to make it easier for people to walk.
[2:56] Mechanic Street could be blacked out the
[2:59] same 24 feet wide so people can walk
[3:03] easier.
[3:05] The last four
[3:07] added up high,
[3:10] but there was never anything there
[3:12] before.
[3:15] Over is set right on the edge of the
[3:17] road with a deep ditch on each side.
[3:20] This will make it possible for anybody
[3:22] to walk on the edge without falling into
[3:26] the ditch. One of my neighbors
[3:29] fell walking down mechanic street and
[3:31] broke her arm. We asked for safety
[3:36] of people walking to remove the upper
[3:38] cover and ditch that was added.
[3:42] We wouldn't want another accident. And
[3:44] if you want to call me, my phone number
[3:47] is 8024473552.
[3:52] And we are going to do a handheld and we
[3:55] do have pictures of
[4:00] » Did you just hand out
[4:02] >> Mr. Corey? Did you advise the village
[4:05] when you said did you see an accident
[4:08] occur?
[4:09] with a
[4:12] woman? You said a neighbor. Did you see
[4:16] an accident happen with a neighbor? As
[4:19] you just read,
[4:20] >> she she fell on me a gangster somewhere.
[4:24] >> You saw it or you just heard this?
[4:27] >> She told me she fell.
[4:28] >> Okay. Did you or did you report this to
[4:31] the village for their insurance
[4:33] purposes? Did you advise her to do so?
[4:37] >> She just told me she fell.
[4:39] >> Okay.
[4:39] >> When did she fall?
[4:44] when
[4:48] I
[4:49] >> Okay. She she needs to contact Mr. Cory.
[4:53] She needs to contact the clerk because
[4:56] this is a major insurance that we have
[4:59] to file paperwork for. If somebody fell
[5:03] in law school, it
[5:05] >> that's a problem.
[5:07] >> If something happened while a village
[5:09] was doing work, it needs to be reported
[5:11] properly.
[5:14] Paul's she told me she called.
[5:16] >> Okay. If she if she can't report it,
[5:18] then we can't say that it's fact.
[5:21] The the village has insurance,
[5:24] >> then she needs to then she needs to
[5:27] contact the clerk.
[5:28] >> Yeah.
[5:29] >> Otherwise,
[5:31] >> yes.
[5:32] >> Okay, Margaret.
[5:33] >> Yeah. Um
[5:33] >> Margaret wants to
[5:34] >> Okay. Okay. We went to Home Depot and
[5:37] got a fire pit. The new burn ordinance
[5:41] says we don't need a permit
[5:44] for fire pits. So asking the trustees if
[5:49] we can burn Ed Meyers said to ask you
[5:56] Ed Meyers is the fire warden and he is
[6:01] the one with the authority. So we
[6:04] followed the trustees followed the
[6:06] advice of of the fire
[6:08] >> warden
[6:12] » hold on hold on yes Tara
[6:14] >> um just a reminder that we just adopted
[6:17] the new burn ordinance so it has to
[6:20] comply with the burn ordinance and ED
[6:23] >> yes so Ed would know what the burn
[6:25] ordinance is because that burn ordinance
[6:27] is NFF hold on I got somebody else
[6:30] coming in Um, yes. Uh, uh,
[6:35] >> can he do it?
[6:36] >> Contact Ed Meyers. I do not know. Ed
[6:39] Myers is
[6:40] >> Ed ask you.
[6:42] >> Well,
[6:43] >> but that puts it Good question mark.
[6:47] >> Well, according to the If I could say
[6:49] something, according to what we adopted,
[6:52] uh, fire pits are permitted. So, it is a
[6:56] permitted, uh, activity.
[6:59] >> So, we need that one.
[7:01] But Scott,
[7:02] >> no. You need to have a permit first.
[7:05] >> Yeah, Scott, there's also a definition
[7:08] of what a fire pit is versus an open
[7:10] burn.
[7:11] >> How to burn fire pit.
[7:13] >> So there there is a Tara has a a point
[7:16] to make too.
[7:17] >> Yes,
[7:17] >> there is a definition of a fire pit. Go
[7:20] to the website, get a take take a look
[7:24] at the open burn ordinance. Can we
[7:28] >> we will mail you a copy of the burn of
[7:30] the of the ordinance
[7:32] >> because a fire pit is a very specific um
[7:35] sided uh I think it's under three foot
[7:39] pit that is either with metal or
[7:42] concrete on the outsides or or rock on
[7:44] the outside whereas an open burn has no
[7:47] sides no edging and is much larger. So
[7:49] there's a distinction between the two
[7:51] and that dictates what is permissible to
[7:55] be done in terms of burning.
[7:57] >> Thank you, Tara. Well said. We will mail
[8:00] you a copy of the of the ordinance and
[8:04] if need be, we can see what Ed's Myers's
[8:09] question was.
[8:10] >> Can Can we not?
[8:13] >> I'm not going to do it right now. I'm
[8:14] not interrupting a meeting.
[8:16] >> Someone else could do it. Somebody else
[8:17] could if you feel like doing it, but I
[8:19] am not interrupting the meeting.
[8:22] >> Um,
[8:22] >> I didn't say you.
[8:23] >> Yes, please feel free to.
[8:27] >> I don't have access to
[8:30] >> Okay. Um,
[8:32] anything else?
[8:36] » I still didn't quite understand you,
[8:37] Mary.
[8:39] Can you burn without a permit if it's in
[8:41] the fire?
[8:42] >> Not without a permit.
[8:45] All fires need a permit.
[8:49] There are distinctions between like if
[8:52] you're doing a lot of brush work and
[8:54] you're you're burning a big pile of
[8:57] trees and things versus a fire pit that
[9:02] you, you know,
[9:04] uh have marshmallows at with your
[9:07] family, you know, around the back yard.
[9:11] So you need to see which category you're
[9:14] talking about and I think the fire would
[9:18] be the best person to discuss it with
[9:20] >> and if the fire warden feels it is not
[9:22] clear we will mail you a copen
[9:26] they burn almost every night during
[9:28] summer
[9:29] >> and they've done it for 10 years no
[9:31] fires not huge
[9:36] >> we are not in a position to say yes or
[9:39] no it is our opinion that all of them
[9:42] need a um need a permit. And as Tara
[9:47] said, there is a very specific
[9:49] definition of um of a fire pit and we'll
[9:54] mail you that ordinance if you haven't
[9:57] seen it and you can then refer to that
[10:01] and you can compare what you have to
[10:03] what is listed in that ordinance.
[10:08] » No.
[10:09] >> Okay. I would say do not be on the safe
[10:12] side. Do not burn until you know exactly
[10:15] what the ordinance says.
[10:18] >> And you have a mail that
[10:20] >> and you have a permit.
[10:22] >> I can mail that out by the end of the
[10:24] day tomorrow.
[10:26] Not any sooner.
[10:27] >> Sooner than tomorrow. The post office is
[10:29] closed.
[10:30] >> When? Tomorrow.
[10:31] >> She said end of day tomorrow.
[10:32] >> End of day tomorrow. So you can't do it
[10:35] tonight and put it in the mail tomorrow.
[10:37] So then that's it. Yeah. It hasn't even
[10:40] been adopted here, has it?
[10:42] >> Yes,
[10:42] >> it has been.
[10:43] adopted. It has been warned.
[10:45] It has been posted. It has been put in
[10:47] the newspaper. It is effective.
[10:51] >> And the person who's to make the
[10:53] judgment is
[10:57] » correct. And we couldn't we don't have
[11:00] the expertise anyway.
[11:01] >> Okay.
[11:07] >> At some point by 5:00 tomorrow, it will
[11:10] be in it will be in in the mailbox.
[11:14] Yes.
[11:15] >> All right. Well, thank you for your
[11:16] opinions and we will move on to our
[11:19] agenda.
[11:22] >> And uh next order of business is
[11:25] approving our minutes of August 11th.
[11:28] >> Okay.
[11:33] I hope I had sent these out with all the
[11:36] various
[11:38] >> Yeah, I just had a couple comments. Um
[11:41] because it
[11:42] >> Okay, we're g since I was not at that
[11:46] meeting. Let's make sure that Lori Let's
[11:49] make sure that you can hear what the
[11:51] comments are in case there's something
[11:52] to be edited.
[11:55] >> Go ahead.
[11:55] >> Okay. All right. uh under the highway
[11:57] report uh the first paragraph last
[12:00] sentence the fire hydrants will also be
[12:02] continued to be worked on the fire
[12:05] hydrants are completed um not sure where
[12:08] the confusion's name but
[12:12] >> that's one okay
[12:13] >> and then on the next page
[12:17] >> um second paragraph
[12:18] >> saying they were completed at the time
[12:19] of the meeting
[12:21] >> okay
[12:22] >> um Mr. Goodrich. And a second paragraph,
[12:25] second page, uh that starts with Mr.
[12:28] Goodrich. Um
[12:31] and goes on to say, "Superintendent
[12:33] Leblanc will get pricing in the morning.
[12:36] Can we say get pricing for a Hall Street
[12:38] paving?"
[12:39] >> Yeah.
[12:40] >> Just so we don't go back to this and
[12:42] >> Well, I thought that was also for scary.
[12:47] >> No, this is for Hall Street. This is for
[12:49] actually
[12:51] Well, that That was, you know, both both
[12:54] streets had repairs to do.
[12:56] >> Was it for both? No.
[12:58] >> What's that?
[12:58] >> Was it for Scary Lane and Hall Street?
[13:01] You were getting a price for the
[13:02] patches.
[13:03] >> Yes.
[13:04] >> Okay.
[13:06] >> So, build that. I'm curious to I just
[13:10] need to know if we, you know, come down.
[13:13] We got to be able to close that circle.
[13:15] So,
[13:16] >> okay.
[13:18] >> Did Does that make sense, Lori? Did you
[13:21] get those two comments, Lori?
[13:23] >> All set.
[13:25] >> Okay, thank you. That's it.
[13:26] >> Thank you. Okay,
[13:30] so with those two
[13:33] edits, anybody else have any questions
[13:36] or comments?
[13:42] » No.
[13:42] >> We're looking for a motion and a second.
[13:46] I'll make a motion we approve the
[13:48] minutes
[13:49] >> as amended.
[13:50] >> Okay.
[13:51] >> A second
[13:52] >> and seconded by David. All right. Lori has that. All in favor?
[13:57] >> I.
[13:59] >> So there are four Lori. There are four
[14:02] approvals and I am abstaining. I was not
[14:05] at that meeting.
[14:08] >> All right.
[14:11] If we're good with that, let's move on
[14:13] to
[14:15] Norm.
[14:18] You're up.
[14:19] >> All right. So, uh we obviously went
[14:22] through the banks the uh all of all the
[14:27] open work with our water department has
[14:32] been completed
[14:33] except for the uh one last shut out over
[14:38] at the little league fields which we'll
[14:39] do before October that's in dirt so
[14:42] that's not a real big deal. Um we've had
[14:46] a couple days again we talked about
[14:49] street. So the first thing to say during
[14:51] any of the time that we worked there was no
[14:55] um
[14:56] you know that happened at any time in
[14:58] order to neighbor came out and told us
[15:00] anything. Uh I understand his concern
[15:03] about where the upper culvert is. That's
[15:06] just where it has to be. There's tons of
[15:09] big trees and you know that's life.
[15:11] Collvers on the side of the road are not
[15:13] uncommon. We can walk around and see a
[15:15] hundred of them in the buildings. Uh
[15:17] about the culverts that have been
[15:19] replaced across the road. I was told
[15:22] long ago that that you know for somehow
[15:25] when they built the development they put
[15:27] them in. They're 40 plus year old metal
[15:31] culvers they were on. Okay. And uh we
[15:34] can go back and forth to say, you know,
[15:36] at the height or whatever, but uh
[15:38] they're put in now at a height that they
[15:41] will take water. And you would have seen
[15:42] that road for years drive by and the
[15:44] water did not fall into those powers. Um
[15:48] so with that being said, we have a
[15:50] unique opportunity.
[15:52] Uh, and usually most of my world
[15:55] revolves around these kind of things,
[15:57] but the town of Bennington is delayed a
[16:00] little bit in some paving and we can
[16:03] have our paver we hire every year come
[16:07] and probably do it tomorrow to pave that
[16:10] stretch of road over where we have done
[16:13] that's all broken up.
[16:14] >> Yeah.
[16:15] >> And really what I say we should
[16:17] definitely shoot with this. Okay.
[16:19] There's there's about 6 in rut down
[16:22] through there when you're out there in
[16:23] the rain and you see it. And we've
[16:24] broken a lot of that that down.
[16:27] >> So it'll yield about an inch and a half
[16:29] of black top by the time he fills it and
[16:31] skims it. But he would patch that side
[16:33] of the road and you see where it is
[16:36] broken up. So as soon as our plows go
[16:38] over it, it's going to destroy it.
[16:40] >> So what section are you talking about?
[16:43] The entire
[16:43] >> talking about the house. No, the house
[16:46] before Steve.
[16:47] >> Yeah. to or to uh George Street.
[16:51] >> Okay. where they're going to pick up a
[16:53] good spot and they're going to end in a
[16:55] decent spot and they're going to re
[16:58] reshape
[17:00] that road right there and basically just
[17:04] do a one bolt and done patch and that
[17:08] will take those rucks out of that road
[17:10] to let that water
[17:11] >> but on that one section of the road
[17:13] >> just that one section
[17:15] >> because when you go further towards
[17:18] Madison it's very crumbly along
[17:21] >> the whole road
[17:22] But I know that we talk about doing that
[17:24] in a future year,
[17:25] >> right? And you know, so so in our big
[17:29] plan, unless the world changes, you
[17:32] know, maybe we sell uh Adam
[17:36] donation of the body or something, we
[17:38] get a lot of money from uh you know,
[17:41] we're three to four years pave that
[17:44] road. Okay?
[17:45] >> You know what I mean? And that that's
[17:46] realistic because you know, our next one
[17:48] we're going to do is salary. We got one
[17:50] more drainage piece on that. I don't
[17:54] have my tape work yet, but it's coming
[17:56] very soon. We have all the pipe, but we
[17:59] don't have the boxes, but I don't know.
[18:01] We're running out of time this winter.
[18:05] Uh, but we were never going to pay that
[18:07] this year.
[18:08] >> No, I I not going to. That's why I'm
[18:11] still trying to envision what you're
[18:13] talking about.
[18:14] >> No, what I'm talking about is a patch.
[18:17] >> A patch. Okay. on Mechanic Street where
[18:20] that water is rotted out and that whole
[18:22] sides broke.
[18:23] >> Okay. So, where you started up
[18:28] down from George Street and started
[18:31] building the the culvert in there,
[18:35] >> is that the way it's going to stay or
[18:37] will it have rock or
[18:38] >> No, that's the way just like that.
[18:40] >> That's the way they're going to stay.
[18:42] It'll just grow grass.
[18:43] >> Okay.
[18:44] >> And and that'll be it. Now, we'll watch
[18:45] it and maintain it and look at it
[18:47] through the year.
[18:49] uh we're going to try to to stab pave it
[18:52] in ourselves.
[18:55] It's really hard to get that kind of
[18:57] width and get that length.
[18:59] >> So, what's the expense of that?
[19:01] >> 21.
[19:03] And if he'll do it to and he'll if he's
[19:05] going to do it while he's here.
[19:10] » Um it's a good bite out of the budget.
[19:14] >> It is. We're planning on paving scary
[19:17] lane this year.
[19:19] >> So, so some of that should be there.
[19:22] >> Uh, you know, I'm sure if we need, you
[19:24] know, for taxes maybe, you know, would
[19:26] be three, four weeks till we get through
[19:27] this pay, it won't be a problem with
[19:29] that.
[19:29] >> So, you're So, you're saying it's
[19:31] basically a replacement.
[19:33] >> It's basically a tax.
[19:34] >> No, no, no, no. Meaning you're not going
[19:36] to do scary.
[19:39] when we did earlier when when we sat
[19:41] down and did the budget for this fiscal
[19:44] year.
[19:44] >> That's correct.
[19:45] >> The number for scary was in that's was
[19:48] in
[19:48] >> Okay.
[19:49] >> I mean that's if it's if it's not doing
[19:52] one and doing the other and they're
[19:54] similar pricing.
[19:55] >> Yeah.
[19:56] >> Then I I mean
[19:57] >> Okay.
[19:58] >> Can I just ask a question about what 21
[20:02] means? Is that 20
[20:03] >> 21
[20:04] >> 21,000?
[20:05] >> Yeah. if it was $21 and 2100. They
[20:09] wouldn't even be asking, you know, by
[20:11] the time they got to tell Keyway
[20:14] and do a couple things, but it'll be,
[20:16] you know, it'll be a patch. And what
[20:18] happens when you go out there, it is
[20:19] deep and it's, you know, we're no
[20:20] stranger to deep cos go down on Park
[20:23] Street and you see that, right?
[20:24] >> Yeah.
[20:24] >> And why we had to do those delineators
[20:27] out and we'll probably do a couple of
[20:29] them for that. But it's water is your
[20:31] humongous issue. And uh when we head
[20:34] over to to Madison Road, you take a walk
[20:36] in Madison Road.
[20:38] >> You stand there and you look at that
[20:39] driveway and you see how deep that is.
[20:41] >> Yeah.
[20:42] >> Right. To get water to move,
[20:45] >> you know. So, but this is we're going to
[20:48] be there for a couple years. That whole
[20:51] side of that road was destroyed before
[20:52] we got there. We've seen that. So, it
[20:54] needs to be fixed.
[20:56] Well, I will tell you, I walk and bike
[20:58] that every single day, and I do not feel
[21:01] like I'm going to fall into the ditch.
[21:04] And uh I I do anxiously await the day
[21:08] that there's a good pavement to walk on,
[21:11] but in the meanwhile, you just you're
[21:13] just careful.
[21:15] >> So,
[21:16] >> well, it's never going to be wide on the
[21:17] first sidewalk.
[21:18] >> No. And we had talked about the dance
[21:20] street. A sidewalk
[21:23] >> probably past the cemetery has never
[21:25] even been in the the realm of
[21:27] >> No, I don't think that would be we well
[21:30] a whole different subject because a
[21:32] whole different scoping study needed.
[21:34] But at any rate, um you know, I defer to
[21:36] you when you know what needs to be done
[21:39] and how it needs to be done. And
[21:42] >> you know it's we
[21:43] >> save on that other ones we we've uh
[21:46] >> and again doing some things we're in old
[21:49] Ben right now so there'll be a little
[21:50] income from that.
[21:52] >> Uh it's really we need to capitalize.
[21:55] We're so small and we we do so much so
[21:58] little we need to capitalize on when we
[21:59] can do it.
[22:01] >> You know he's got a free day. It's going
[22:02] to save him money. Going to save us
[22:04] money.
[22:05] >> I'm okay with it.
[22:07] >> Any other questions?
[22:08] >> Just just
[22:11] Uh how many lineal feet has that run
[22:13] that you're talking?
[22:15] >> Yeah, you know off the top of my head
[22:18] because we were on the phone and you
[22:19] know trying to do something else while
[22:20] he's over there probably 100 yards or
[22:23] something you know what I mean to you
[22:25] know goes
[22:27] >> you know he's going to start so we have
[22:29] Steve's house we'll just use that as a
[22:31] landmark.
[22:32] >> Okay. So before it and when we were out
[22:34] there last week when the rain when the
[22:36] rain came, okay, we've always assumed
[22:38] that it came mostly from Lor and I think
[22:40] after it rains for a couple hours, it
[22:42] definitely comes at a large field.
[22:45] There's a little cutout in the back by
[22:46] that tree and it'll come down
[22:49] >> but a ton of it comes from the other one
[22:51] from the the Cory acres roadside and the
[22:55] way that goes and the three houses all
[22:58] their gutter systems come out on the
[23:00] front lawn. So, it's catching all that
[23:01] water and then it's bringing it right
[23:02] immediately out the driveways
[23:05] >> and then it and then it comes. Well, now
[23:07] last week when we when we were out
[23:09] there, that first caller was taking all
[23:12] the water. Not I mean, it was blowing
[23:14] right on the other side of the road just
[23:16] like it's supposed to. And an hour after
[23:18] it rained, you couldn't even tell there
[23:19] was water on the other side. So, that's
[23:22] good.
[23:22] >> Yes.
[23:23] >> The other color, it was in that big
[23:25] rough. So, I knocked that down and we
[23:28] were seeing if it's better, but when I
[23:30] heard I might have a shot and get it
[23:33] cleaned up.
[23:34] >> Okay.
[23:35] >> I I made a call and I just got it at
[23:38] 4:30 tonight.
[23:39] >> Okay.
[23:41] >> All right. Thank you for answering my
[23:42] questions. I've got a better
[23:44] understanding why 21 times.
[23:47] >> And if you're on that side of the road,
[23:48] which we do see a lot of walkers in the
[23:50] morning when they get there, it won't be
[23:51] all that black and it won't be uneven.
[23:53] It'll be an even surface
[23:56] >> at least for that stretch. That'll be a
[23:58] welcome thing.
[23:58] >> And I mean we could the whole world
[24:01] needs to go but we are in in reality
[24:04] unless the world changes we are three to
[24:06] four out
[24:08] >> okay
[24:08] >> for that road and this will be a good
[24:11] patch
[24:12] >> and that that is that all of that
[24:14] capital planning is the topic of another
[24:16] discussion at another time. So we won't
[24:18] take that up now. Um,
[24:22] >> I was just going to comment that the
[24:23] weather would be great tomorrow also.
[24:27] >> Yeah.
[24:28] >> I mean, we may not get this this many
[24:31] good days.
[24:32] >> Yeah. Well, that happened a couple years
[24:35] ago. October rain 27 31 days.
[24:38] >> Yeah. So, uh,
[24:40] >> opportunity cost, right?
[24:42] >> Tara, did you have any questions on this
[24:44] discussion?
[24:46] >> Nope. Tara has no questions. All right.
[24:47] Then we're looking for a motion. Mary.
[24:50] >> Yes.
[24:51] >> Um,
[24:53] uh, has anyone mentioned, uh, the
[24:56] College Road? Because College Road also
[24:59] has an axle
[25:01] breaking, uh, pothole on it.
[25:05] >> I I think we will.
[25:08] We
[25:09] >> ble and shims are Yeah, they're
[25:11] different. Yeah. We've certainly been
[25:13] around
[25:15] >> constantly. We we paved College Road
[25:18] whether you want to believe it or not
[25:19] maybe
[25:21] eight years ago.
[25:23] Uh but the the sad face and that's what
[25:26] in new new tanks we've been doing right
[25:29] is actually zipping road up magnesium
[25:32] and grinding them back in because the
[25:33] reflective cracks keep coming and
[25:36] >> but if there is a significant issue Kim
[25:38] let's let's address that with with norm
[25:42] separately because right now it's just
[25:45] finishing up the mechanic street is the
[25:47] issue at hand here.
[25:49] >> Sure.
[25:51] But I I think everybody should feel free
[25:55] if they see something that needs to at
[25:57] least bring it to someone's attention.
[25:59] So there's nothing wrong with doing
[26:01] that. We maybe can't fix everything
[26:03] immediately, but we should know about it
[26:06] and get it on a to-do list.
[26:09] So,
[26:10] >> so I'd like to authorize uh to uh make a
[26:14] motion to authorize this change of
[26:17] expenditures to mechanic street from uh
[26:21] scary lane. Sorry, Ray.
[26:24] >> There you go. Scary lane's in good
[26:26] shape. Not that
[26:29] >> um
[26:29] >> and not as well tracked as much travel.
[26:32] >> No, probably less traffic.
[26:36] >> Okay. Thank you for that. I I'll happily
[26:38] second that. So, here we go. Uh,
[26:44] was that a yes, Tara? Yeah. Okay. Tara
[26:47] had her hand up. I wasn't sure if it was
[26:48] a question, but I'm thinking she she's
[26:51] anticipating all in favor.
[26:53] >> I
[26:54] >> Okay, good. We got that done. Um,
[26:57] anything else, Norm?
[26:59] >> Uh, no. I mean, uh, we're right now
[27:02] we're again, um,
[27:05] doing a little project for our neighbors
[27:07] over in Old Bington. We started that
[27:08] today. That that shouldn't take, I don't
[27:10] know, four or five days, uh, to
[27:13] complete. We'll be in and out.
[27:15] >> Um,
[27:17] that's it for this year.
[27:18] >> Uh, over there, we just, as you just
[27:21] said, you know, we still got time to do
[27:24] uh the bus stop.
[27:26] >> Yeah. that's scheduled in our cohorts
[27:30] have almost all been replaced. The only
[27:32] thing we have left is the one on the
[27:36] excuse me the the very first one you
[27:38] come to on Hall Street and uh had a call
[27:41] with one of the homeowners today. I
[27:42] believe we're going to have that paper
[27:44] on rightway side.
[27:45] >> Okay.
[27:45] >> I don't know if we'll be able to put
[27:47] that in this year, but the the plan is
[27:49] it'll be on spring be the first one to
[27:52] go in. Boom. And then we'll we'll do
[27:55] that road.
[27:56] >> Okay. you know, we'll have to talk
[27:57] about, you know, do we want a curved,
[28:00] you know, and all that other stuff.
[28:02] >> Well, we can do another meeting with the
[28:05] residents over there and see what they want, too.
[28:09] >> Yep, we can. Um,
[28:11] >> if that's advised.
[28:13] >> Uh, yeah. I mean, it's it's it's both.
[28:15] The the street was curved. You know, I
[28:18] would do what uh again copy what our our
[28:21] neighbor do with Bennington with that
[28:23] slip form guy. Uh so they sell 30 grand
[28:26] for him to come in and then the
[28:28] concrete's all on top of that after we
[28:30] dig it. Uh but again, once we do this
[28:33] road the way we are doing it, we're out
[28:36] of that road business
[28:38] for the rest of most of our lifet. Does
[28:42] a curb
[28:45] does it improve the longevity of a of
[28:48] the black top on a road?
[28:49] >> It does because it directs water and
[28:51] keeps a spot where the lawns end, you
[28:54] know, because everybody, you know, keeps
[28:56] creeping and creeping and creeping.
[28:58] >> Um, you know, where the lawns end. It's a place where water runs. It stays
[29:05] doesn't jump in. Especially the other
[29:07] house at the bottom. We've had problems
[29:09] with the way that road is. Oh,
[29:11] >> now hopefully we can reshape that uh a
[29:14] little bit. And again, so that has a 6
[29:18] in curve on that road. So we'll just use
[29:21] like in front of Doug's house that that
[29:23] curve is gone because we paved and paved and paved and paved,
[29:27] >> you know, and it's just all flatten. I
[29:30] mean, that thing was put in in the 30s,
[29:32] you know, it's 100 years old, but you
[29:35] know, it's all pieces. If I could save
[29:36] it, I would. But it's it's not it's not
[29:40] feasible.
[29:41] >> Okay.
[29:43] >> You know, it's going to make it better.
[29:48] » Any other questions,
[29:51] >> comments or concerns? Thank you. Do you
[29:54] want to stay and hear Marks talk about
[30:00] » Feel free to come up here if you want.
[30:02] >> Okay.
[30:04] Thank you. um
[30:07] to deal with people for several years
[30:10] now. Um feels like times. Um I was uh
[30:14] contacted about a month ago by a
[30:17] softball group. Men's I should say
[30:20] adult. I'm not sure it's co I believe
[30:22] it's a men's softball group that wants
[30:24] to use it and are willing to do the work
[30:27] to establish the infield again. um
[30:31] mostly with inind uh there may be some
[30:34] sharing. I haven't got that far yet. Uh
[30:36] and then a couple of weeks after that, I
[30:38] was contacted by a youth baseball and
[30:41] softball program that's interested in
[30:43] the same. It's also going to put some
[30:45] money into the field. Um again, no
[30:49] details yet. There's just two interested
[30:50] parties in establishing a baseball
[30:52] softball field again. Um they're doing
[30:55] some other improvements as you know as
[30:57] they go along. Uh, I'm going to meet
[31:00] with both parties just to make sure that
[31:04] one doesn't I told them both there is no
[31:06] such thing as exclusive beer um apples
[31:09] for everybody. So, anybody that wants to
[31:11] use this, they get a chance to obviously
[31:12] those that put resources to will get um
[31:16] priority in scheduling, but
[31:19] um I'm just here to let you know that
[31:20] things are still moving and to make sure
[31:23] you pursue that because obviously it
[31:25] wouldn't be um I know used to be part of
[31:28] that as sort of boneyard
[31:31] extension up in the parking. So, if this
[31:33] does go through, it won't be till next
[31:34] year. If it does go through, obviously
[31:36] we have to provide some arcing because
[31:38] there's not much beyond that. Um, but
[31:41] it's it's the early talks in the house,
[31:43] but it couldn't give you a timeline. I
[31:44] know they're both interested in using it
[31:46] by next year. Uh, I believe the softball
[31:48] is a summer summer program. So, um, I
[31:51] will be as long as you want me to
[31:54] proceed with
[31:56] making this thing go and report back to
[31:57] you whenever I have information, I can
[31:59] get back to them and start the meeting
[32:01] and see other ways they go. Do you uh
[32:04] ever talk to Brian Boomer at all?
[32:07] >> Do I ever? I mean, I can.
[32:10] >> And the only thing I put Let's see if we
[32:12] can get his building trade class to put
[32:14] roofs on those two guys.
[32:16] >> That's something I was going to talk
[32:18] these guys willing to do that too.
[32:19] >> Okay. So, we'll rip them off.
[32:21] >> I will. Yeah. And I told him, so that
[32:23] would be I I always think whenever I've
[32:24] talked to anybody about deals, I always
[32:27] give a big shout to Southwest Tech. And
[32:28] I'm happy to go. In fact, I've talked to
[32:30] Brian maybe a year and a half, two years
[32:32] ago about doing some work there. So, I
[32:34] will reach out to him again. Um, I might
[32:37] wait to see what the other guys are
[32:38] willing to do because if they're willing
[32:40] to do that, we have zero in materials if
[32:44] we take it on the material, which is
[32:47] pennies. It's not a big project. And I
[32:49] hope there is some money and I
[32:51] anticipate that we will be um putting in
[32:54] some money out of the um park and rack
[32:56] budget um but we'll see what they're
[32:58] willing to do. cost first.
[33:01] >> Yeah. Love to see if that
[33:03] >> I understand we don't have to ever deal
[33:05] with that.
[33:06] >> Yeah.
[33:06] >> And it sure seems like the whole idea
[33:09] was to make that field
[33:13] usable like it used to be.
[33:15] >> It sat there
[33:16] >> and and encouraged people to use that
[33:19] part of our village.
[33:20] >> Yep. So it sat there and it sat there
[33:22] with the baseball field in field and
[33:24] playing to go
[33:25] >> and we couldn't get
[33:27] >> um this is in no way impacts the soccer
[33:32] field.
[33:33] >> Nope. That's the thing. The reason we
[33:35] took out the reason we did what we did
[33:36] there
[33:37] >> was that home,
[33:38] >> right?
[33:39] >> If we were going to put a proper soccer
[33:40] field, football field, lacrosse field,
[33:42] any other field on there,
[33:44] >> you would have had to have gone on the
[33:47] infield to play. And I grew up in
[33:48] Vermont. I told the several soccer
[33:50] fields that
[33:51] >> Yeah.
[33:52] >> you would run across an injury field and
[33:53] it was a broken ankle.
[33:55] >> Yeah.
[33:55] >> So the reason we did what we did was to
[33:58] make it so we could have an established
[34:00] injury field and have a utility field
[34:03] and one could impact both.
[34:05] >> And I did mention to them too. So these
[34:06] sorry I got um fencing is probably
[34:09] important for them. I said it would be
[34:11] they would not be allowed permanent
[34:13] outfield fencing. Uh it would it would
[34:16] look a lot like what they do at the high
[34:17] school right now with the softball
[34:19] baseball fields. Basically, for lack of
[34:21] other words, it's like a snow melt.
[34:22] >> So, it's a temporary collapsible. The
[34:24] kids run through it. It's a safety net
[34:25] that drops down. Um and that would be on them
[34:30] >> and has there been um any queries about
[34:33] using the field for soccer?
[34:36] >> Uh well, there's a mostly about men's
[34:39] leagues. I mean, I've approached Mike
[34:41] Malloy at the high school once we get
[34:43] it. Uh, I know the YMCA is always
[34:45] looking for so I talked to them um about
[34:48] using it for their summer programming.
[34:49] It's a great spot for them because it's
[34:51] right by the lake. They can do two
[34:52] weekly deals. So, yeah.
[34:53] >> Um, there's plenty of interest in
[34:57] certain things. Um,
[35:00] in my opinion, we people get really
[35:03] nervous about things happening too fast.
[35:05] So, crawl into several of these things
[35:07] and see how it goes. But I've got an
[35:09] issue that I won't share right now
[35:10] because people too.
[35:13] But yeah, things are things are moving.
[35:15] It's just
[35:16] >> Yeah, we dumped a lot of money to that
[35:17] and my biggest fear was that.
[35:19] >> Well, thank you.
[35:19] >> I kind of steered that and then if it
[35:21] sat there
[35:22] >> empty, it was a waste of money.
[35:23] >> Yeah.
[35:24] >> I appreciate everything that you guys
[35:26] have all done.
[35:27] >> We've all got a lot of equity in it and
[35:29] hoping to pay off. And we were going to
[35:32] um talk mention while you're here and
[35:35] while Norm's here just the uh the caring
[35:38] for canopy grant that the village had
[35:40] and the trees that were put in and the
[35:42] marvelous work that Norm and Kyle and
[35:46] the crew did to get that whole bank
[35:49] ready to put the fence in. And um the
[35:52] trees look magnificent over there.
[35:55] There's 11 of them and three different
[35:58] varieties,
[36:00] maybe four. Uh, of course they're small
[36:03] now, but they'll they'll get there.
[36:05] We've got a few pictures and, uh, Ron
[36:08] Penrook and his crew just did such a
[36:10] good job. That's great.
[36:12] >> And they cleaned everything up and it
[36:14] looks it looks great. So,
[36:17] >> and yet another improvement and help
[36:20] from a number of people to get a grant
[36:23] written and accepted and done.
[36:25] Um, I was talking to Mark about I
[36:29] remember Norm saying that during that
[36:33] process of fixing the field, we saved
[36:35] the old clay from the
[36:39] um original foot that baseball field.
[36:42] >> You weren't able to.
[36:43] >> No.
[36:44] >> Oh, okay. I thought I thought that was
[36:46] something you were hoping to do.
[36:48] >> No. No. That bulls right up with
[36:51] everything else. That old play is right
[36:52] in the middle of left field.
[36:55] >> Okay.
[36:57] >> So, I thought we'd be able to reuse some
[36:59] of that, but I guess we're gonna have to
[37:00] get over.
[37:01] >> And typically, you know what? Doing
[37:03] that, you
[37:05] knowing the condition it was in, you
[37:07] probably just shortened the life of that
[37:09] actually being successful and actually
[37:10] taking they would had to probably gone
[37:12] over with so much new stuff. But I
[37:14] appreciate the thought and norm one of
[37:15] the biggest throws to you was their uh
[37:18] willing to mow. So mowing was one of the um
[37:24] things they threw out there is because
[37:26] they understand that we're not going to
[37:27] mow it to their specs. So they're both
[37:30] willing to take that on at least for the
[37:31] portion of the field they're going to
[37:32] use. All right, thanks. Which I know is
[37:35] a big
[37:36] >> big falling for you.
[37:38] >> And then I guess I would have to ask all
[37:40] these questions can be sorted out later
[37:42] on,
[37:43] >> but are there insurance liability issues
[37:47] that we have?
[37:48] >> So any any team that you had that they
[37:51] have to carry a certain amount of
[37:52] insurance?
[37:53] >> Um, and we would if they're if they're
[37:55] going to use our fields as a as a
[37:58] recognized organization, they would ask
[38:00] what their insurance they don't have to
[38:01] carry. And anybody that would do any
[38:03] kind of grounds maintenance norm gets to
[38:06] have
[38:06] >> I would not let anybody touch that field
[38:08] without
[38:08] >> okay having norm say
[38:10] >> okay
[38:11] >> don't do that because it's going to be
[38:12] on our way in the future.
[38:13] >> Okay.
[38:14] >> So yeah I'll before we do anything we'll
[38:16] do nothing up there without
[38:18] >> okay
[38:18] >> making sure Norm's part of the
[38:20] conversation. And besides that I'll I
[38:23] won't let anybody do anything before I I
[38:24] told them I have a lot of good ideas. I
[38:26] have no say in anything.
[38:28] I'll be here and tell you guys
[38:29] everything they're planning so it gets
[38:31] everybody first.
[38:32] >> Well, thank you because it is so
[38:34] exciting to see all of this rejuvenation
[38:37] happen and things for people of all
[38:39] ages.
[38:40] >> Yes. And over the whipple I think is
[38:42] going to come back too. They been in
[38:43] Bang for a couple years because of the
[38:45] work. And you did get my text about go
[38:49] ahead you can do whatever you want to do
[38:50] with it.
[38:51] >> Yeah, we're filming researching that.
[38:53] and he found a a fell that uh is big
[38:56] cotton like goes all over the country
[38:59] works for golfers and uh and his comment
[39:03] to me was fertilized. Yes, grass seeds
[39:07] where all your money is. If we can't
[39:09] water it, don't waste you guys.
[39:11] >> And uh you know, so we're still really
[39:14] looking at
[39:15] >> the best way to do it, you know, and
[39:17] that's our biggest thing. We're right
[39:19] next to a huge water source. We have no
[39:21] real water in it.
[39:23] Because that the one water feed there I
[39:25] assume is not nearly adequate to water a
[39:27] field.
[39:27] >> Yeah. Got it.
[39:29] >> It's a split very small line.
[39:32] >> Does that have to be considered being
[39:35] added?
[39:37] >> Well, I don't know. I don't I don't even
[39:40] know if it the water r so far away. You
[39:43] know, it was
[39:44] >> too bad you can't pump something right
[39:45] out of the lake.
[39:47] >> Well, it that's that's been a thought.
[39:51] uh you know it has its own issues u fish
[39:55] wildlife
[39:56] >> you know what I mean all different kinds
[39:58] of
[40:00] >> permits
[40:00] >> things you know what I mean if there was
[40:02] a a dry hydrant
[40:04] >> in the lake that you know which I guess
[40:07] you know
[40:08] >> I'm surprised there's not there's never
[40:10] been because it's a good water source
[40:13] >> uh but water water is an issue so it is
[40:16] what it is and u you know that field is
[40:18] way better than it ever was And in the
[40:20] process, it can't hurt to bring it up
[40:23] when we're talking these fols too and
[40:24] knows what they're willing and
[40:29] » you know it would also um
[40:33] you know it would be a big demand
[40:36] to try to water something like that
[40:38] would be a huge demand and you know the
[40:41] water board would 100% have to be
[40:46] » fully on board but it would be like late
[40:50] night,
[40:50] >> you know, we had to have an automatic
[40:52] system
[40:53] >> or you have trucks that come and spray
[40:55] and I don't know how that works.
[40:58] >> Yeah, that's really hard because it's so
[41:01] big. It's seven acres. I mean, you think
[41:03] about that that field that that's what
[41:05] it'll load up to
[41:07] >> and uh you know, trying to spray it with a fire truck or something like
[41:11] that. It's just you know, it's such a
[41:13] deal. And
[41:14] >> yeah,
[41:14] >> um you know, we had to put the fence
[41:16] there to keep people out of it.
[41:17] Hopefully I'll be able to get out this
[41:19] winter and get all the water out of
[41:20] there, right? So, we don't want that
[41:22] water. Uh
[41:25] you know, but uh but water is really
[41:29] bad. It's too bad
[41:32] the lake, but I think uh you know that
[41:35] that's a whole big ri.
[41:39] >> Okay.
[41:40] >> And last, just in mentioning seven
[41:42] acres, this will be it. Um, do we have a
[41:44] site map of that with any kind of other
[41:47] than like the tax map? We'd have to get
[41:49] one from the engineer.
[41:51] >> Okay. Can I um
[41:53] text you tomorrow and I can swing by the
[41:55] garage?
[41:56] >> Go to MSK. Go right through your
[41:59] pull up.
[42:00] >> Go where?
[42:01] >> NSK.
[42:01] >> Oh, okay. Perfect. Awesome. Thank you.
[42:04] And that post with the pin on is made to
[42:08] set a GPS on and then you take a walk
[42:10] right off with their stick and boop boop
[42:12] and set your wheels.
[42:13] >> Awesome. That's why that post would
[42:15] never cut down.
[42:16] >> Perfect. Well,
[42:19] >> thank you.
[42:20] Appreciate it. I'll be back.
[42:22] >> Okay.
[42:24] >> Thanks, March.
[42:25] >> Okay.
[42:26] Okay. Um
[42:29] >> yes. Yeah. Okay. We are gonna move uh
[42:33] just a minute.
[42:35] >> We're gonna go right to fire department
[42:37] because Doug needs a a minute of time.
[42:39] So, we're going to do this. All I wanted
[42:41] to do here and everybody has this. Um as
[42:45] part of the weatherization, I need to
[42:48] find my number. as part of the
[42:50] weatherization that uh grant that we
[42:52] have. It's a lot of thermal envelope
[42:57] work that's done on this building, the
[42:59] garage and also the fire station. The
[43:03] windows at the fire station on that
[43:04] second floor were not part of this of
[43:07] the the grant recommendations,
[43:09] but Bill Christian, who is our MERP,
[43:15] Municipal Energy Resilience Program, uh
[43:18] consultant on this, really uh uh
[43:21] encouraged
[43:23] these insulating window inserts to be
[43:26] put on those big windows there. So he
[43:29] measured for the window dressers
[43:31] program, which is a volunteer community
[43:35] build
[43:37] program that builds these insulating
[43:39] window inserts. He measured everything.
[43:43] The job comes to $1,68.76.
[43:49] I'm quite sure that is on the warrant
[43:52] that Doug will talk about. Um but um
[43:56] Chief Meyers, yes, Chief Meyers approved
[44:00] the that the fire volunteers and those
[44:05] who use that
[44:06] >> willing to agree to it. Okay.
[44:07] >> Yes, they did agree to it. Um and that's
[44:10] that. So,
[44:13] I wanted specifically to have the
[44:17] trustees
[44:19] approve this expense because it is not
[44:22] part of the grant and it will have to
[44:23] come out of the building reserve, which
[44:26] we do have a significant building
[44:28] reserve to cover 16 Yeah. to cover
[44:30] $1,600.
[44:32] >> You want cover, you want a specific
[44:34] resolution as opposed to just the
[44:36] warrant because it is included. it is
[44:38] included in the warrant, but I thought
[44:39] this is a a different kind of a program.
[44:42] Um, and and I just wanted thought that
[44:46] in full discussion for the public, we
[44:50] should uh they should know what we're
[44:52] doing is and and it is not covered under
[44:56] the grant,
[44:57] >> right? Are the these are the big picture
[44:59] windows that face the parking lot and
[45:01] the
[45:02] >> all the ones on the top? Yes. Yes. Yes.
[45:06] Bill Bill measured
[45:09] >> I can't even tell you how many he's got
[45:11] here.
[45:12] >> There's a lot
[45:13] >> there's a whole bunch of them and then
[45:15] they have uh there's some smaller ones
[45:18] but he only did the fixed windows. There
[45:21] are some that open up but he's not doing
[45:24] those because you don't you know even in
[45:26] the winter time you might need to vent
[45:28] something.
[45:29] >> So that's what I'm looking
[45:31] >> 25.
[45:32] >> Okay. I'm looking for an approval.
[45:36] >> I'll make a motion that we approve the
[45:40] window dressers
[45:43] uh proposal for
[45:46] outfitting the fire department building
[45:50] with
[45:52] what do you call them?
[45:53] >> Insulating insert window inserts.
[45:55] >> Thank you.
[45:56] >> I'll second $168.76.
[46:02] » You got it. Second.
[46:04] >> Second. No, I beat you.
[46:06] >> Ah, did
[46:07] >> Okay.
[46:08] >> All right. Thanks, Tara. All in favor
[46:10] then?
[46:12] >> I Okay, Lori, that's unanimous. We move
[46:16] on from that. Um, since uh Doug is still
[46:19] out talking, let's move DRB, Development
[46:23] Review Board. um a meeting scheduled on
[46:28] Wednesday
[46:30] um September 23rd that will be posted
[46:34] and warmed and interested people can see
[46:37] what that is about. It has to do with
[46:39] the um AARP bus station grant that Norm
[46:45] alluded to and I will talk about that
[46:47] later on in the day. So we are done with
[46:50] that. Okay, now we are back uh and
[46:53] actually kind of on time here. Um, back
[46:57] to Doug.
[46:58] >> All right. Thank you. Um, I'm going to
[47:01] do the warrants first. Um, and then I'll
[47:04] do my report after.
[47:06] >> Um, so two warrants. Um, first is the
[47:10] payroll warrant. Um, so for the month of
[47:13] August, again, just as a reminder since
[47:15] it's still pending new, uh, we have the
[47:18] breakdown of the taxes, the retirement,
[47:21] uh, and the payroll fees and then a lump
[47:23] sum for total payroll dollars. So, the
[47:26] total payroll warrant for the month of
[47:28] August is 16,45425.
[47:33] » So move
[47:35] second.
[47:38] » No questions, Tara. Nope. All in favor?
[47:42] >> I
[47:43] >> Okay, that's another one. Unanimous,
[47:45] Lori.
[47:46] >> Okay,
[47:49] then I have the
[47:52] uh late August and September warrant.
[47:55] Um, so the vast majority of things on
[47:59] here are going to be general or we've
[48:02] talked about um the the couple of larger
[48:05] items. The KS State Bank, that is the
[48:08] annual um payment for the fire truck. Um
[48:12] and again for still for several more
[48:14] years of that 28,93021,
[48:18] we have a $10,000 amount that comes out
[48:20] of a reserve fund. Um, so that will
[48:23] transfer either this month or next
[48:25] month. So the true amount that is
[48:28] budgeted um and that is paid out is the
[48:31] 18,000 of that because we had uh
[48:33] proceeds from the sale of the truck of
[48:36] the older truck. Um the next largest
[48:38] item, the VLCT
[48:40] that is quarterly for insurance. Um,
[48:45] and a lot of the other ones, the MSK,
[48:49] uh, contact, those have to do with, um,
[48:52] projects that Norm just spoke about. So,
[48:55] Culvert work, Paul Street work, uh,
[48:58] things like that. Um, I did send out the
[49:02] breakdown for the detail. Um, so if
[49:06] there's no other questions, then the
[49:07] total on this is, is the window dresser
[49:11] staying on?
[49:11] >> Yes.
[49:12] >> Okay. So 71,79933.
[49:18] » All right, I'll move it.
[49:21] Second.
[49:23] >> All in favor?
[49:26] >> Okay, Lauren, we got that unanimous to
[49:29] >> Okay.
[49:30] >> Um, so treasurer's report. Um, I know
[49:34] it's going to seem like we're kind of
[49:35] beating the dead horse, but I have um
[49:38] the tax anticipation note is going to be
[49:41] here. Um, so this is the final portion
[49:46] of that. Um, the way that the bank um
[49:49] requires it to be done is the final
[49:52] documents have to be signed at the
[49:54] meeting um under open meeting law. So
[49:58] all the numbers figures are the same as
[50:00] last month and the month before that we
[50:02] discussed. So first thing we need to
[50:04] have is a motion um for the board, the
[50:08] treasurer and the clerk to sign the
[50:10] documents provided by community bank for
[50:13] the tax anticipation note line of credit
[50:16] in the amount of $181,939.
[50:20] » I'll make it.
[50:22] >> I'll second that.
[50:25] No questions. All in favor?
[50:28] >> I
[50:30] >> Okay, so I will circulate these
[50:32] documents. Uh, Tara, you are excused
[50:35] from signing because we only need a
[50:37] majority of wet signatures. So, with
[50:39] four of the trustees here in person, we
[50:42] are fined. The treasurer and the clerk
[50:45] um will also sign. So, those I will
[50:47] circulate um to have those sign. I'm
[50:50] going to just go through everything.
[50:52] >> Um, any questions about that? We've kind
[50:55] of talked about it a couple of months
[50:56] now, so this is just kind of the the end
[50:59] of it. Um,
[51:01] so the next item, uh, tax billing. Um,
[51:05] the tax bill process has begun actually
[51:08] in earnest this afternoon. Um, I had a
[51:10] call with our, um, company that we use
[51:13] that provides the the online services.
[51:17] Um, and had that call for about an hour
[51:19] and a half before I came here. Um, I
[51:22] have a couple of next steps, but my goal
[51:24] is to have all tax bills in the mail by
[51:27] Friday. Uh, tax due date will be
[51:30] November 10th, the same as Bennington
[51:32] and Shaffsberry. Um, we all kind of make
[51:35] sure that our dates line up for the most
[51:37] part. Um, Bennington, North Bennington
[51:39] are always identical. Once in a while,
[51:40] Shaffbury changes theirs if it's uh a
[51:43] certain day or if it falls on holiday.
[51:45] It doesn't always match up. But I
[51:47] believe this year because the 10th of
[51:49] November is not a holiday or a weekend.
[51:51] So it's an easy day. Um so those will
[51:54] come out. I will begin to put notices on
[51:56] the website uh regarding Homestead. So
[51:59] anybody who may be listening um online
[52:02] now or views this uh you have until
[52:06] October 10th to update, modify, file
[52:10] your homestead. Um that has to be done
[52:12] with the state of Vermont. I cannot do
[52:14] that for you, nor can anybody within the
[52:17] village of North Bennington, the town of
[52:18] Bennington, or the town of Shaspberry.
[52:20] Um, that is normally done when you file
[52:22] your income taxes. Um, but if you don't
[52:25] file income taxes for a variety of
[52:27] reasons, there is a form that can be
[52:29] filled out for the homestead exemption.
[52:31] Um, and if you are on an extension, you
[52:34] still would want to get that done. Um,
[52:37] the sooner the better because right now
[52:38] is what's called the penalty phase. um
[52:41] you can still file as a homestead, but
[52:44] uh because it's considered a late file,
[52:45] there is a percentage that they deduct
[52:48] from that. Um and the closer that it
[52:50] gets to October 15th, the higher that gets. Um again, that's a state
[52:54] process. We have nothing to do with
[52:56] that. Um so I will put those
[52:58] instructions on the website uh within
[53:00] the next week or so. Um and it'll just
[53:02] be the website and the phone number
[53:04] again because we don't do anything here.
[53:06] >> Um in-person hours, everybody always
[53:09] asks about that. I usually start the
[53:11] week of Columbus that gives about a
[53:13] month. So I'll have an evening and
[53:16] Saturday mornings that I will be here
[53:18] and I will also be here on uh tax day
[53:20] itself for a few hours in the afternoon.
[53:22] So once I figure out all the days and
[53:25] times I will put that usually it's the
[53:27] same. So usually it's uh it'll probably
[53:30] be Thursday evening and Saturday
[53:31] mornings other than tax day. Um, all of
[53:34] that will go onto the website and I will
[53:36] post those hours in the banner on the
[53:40] depot door, the library, and the post
[53:43] office. They always put those in all the
[53:45] same spots. Um, anybody have any
[53:48] questions about tax billing?
[53:53] Um, okay. Only other couple of notes
[53:55] that I have. Um, once I get tax billing
[53:57] situated, I will catch up on a couple
[53:59] other reports. So, by the end of the
[54:01] month, I'll send out the new um budget
[54:04] versus actual. I have to put the budget
[54:06] into QuickBooks. So, that will be my
[54:08] next step after tax billing is done. So,
[54:10] I'll get that out. So, you'll have from
[54:12] July 1st to current. And same thing with
[54:14] the cash accounts. I'll get the last
[54:16] couple of accounts reconciled that I
[54:18] haven't finished up on. Um and I'll
[54:20] update that to to you guys before the
[54:22] end of the month. Um I think that's all
[54:26] I have unless there's any other
[54:28] questions. Something just popped into my
[54:30] head. And do we, you know, people who ha
[54:34] who do road work and have to provide the
[54:38] bond for uh for digging in the right of
[54:42] way? Do we have anybody? Wasn't there
[54:45] somebody that we had to pay back this
[54:46] year?
[54:47] >> No, I believe it's next year.
[54:48] >> It's next year. Okay. I thought there
[54:50] was somebody.
[54:51] >> No, somebody had inquired about it, but
[54:52] Norm confirmed that it hadn't been a
[54:54] year. It was project was was
[54:57] >> it wasn't just done but it's not
[54:59] >> because that's that is my understanding
[55:01] is that's a calendar year.
[55:04] Yes.
[55:05] >> And I do not believe that the last one
[55:08] has has been a
[55:08] >> calendar into my mind that at some point
[55:11] there was a email about it and I
[55:13] couldn't
[55:13] >> correct. Yeah. And I think Norm had
[55:15] confirmed that it was not had not been a
[55:17] year.
[55:17] >> No, you're all correct. Okay.
[55:19] >> Okay.
[55:20] >> This is a bond for a person working on
[55:22] the road. So when when somebody digs
[55:25] into the roadway for certain things,
[55:27] they have to provide a a bond to the
[55:30] village in case the work is done shoddy
[55:32] or they miss something, right?
[55:34] >> If Norm has to go and fix it. So the way
[55:37] that the contract or the form is written
[55:39] is the village holds the money for one
[55:41] year from the date of completion of the
[55:44] project.
[55:44] >> Again, so Norm can make sure that
[55:46] something doesn't happen, the pavement
[55:48] doesn't collapse or, you know, any of
[55:50] those types of things. So that's what
[55:52] that's for.
[55:52] >> We would have money to return perhaps.
[55:54] >> Correct. It just goes into the It goes
[55:56] into the village's account and then once
[55:58] I'm notified that the time has lapsed,
[56:00] then we cut a check to that homeowner um
[56:03] and we return the funds.
[56:04] >> I'm sure they'll let you know.
[56:06] >> Right. And I think the question was just
[56:09] because the project was done, but the
[56:11] time hadn't elapsed
[56:13] >> um was what it was. I believe norm may
[56:15] be able to clarify if if it but that's
[56:18] my
[56:19] >> just one of those things that personally
[56:21] I think it's nice to be ahead of and not
[56:23] wait for somebody to say hey you missed
[56:24] the deadline
[56:26] >> you know it's my money so all right
[56:29] thank you any other questions for Doug
[56:33] >> no
[56:36] >> all right sounds excellent
[56:39] thank you um
[56:42] where are we now We did that. We did that. Planning Commission.
[56:48] Okay. So, couple of things that we want
[56:50] to look at here. First and foremost is
[56:54] um the administrative policy for
[56:57] short-term rentals and the annual fee
[56:59] that we talked about. Ken, do you want
[57:02] to take over from here and just make do
[57:06] this discussion or not?
[57:08] >> No, we we've left it to the trustees at
[57:11] this point. Um Okay. So, it's
[57:14] the planning commission has done all the
[57:15] work that
[57:17] uh we think is a precursor to their
[57:20] decision.
[57:21] >> Okay. All I wanted that's that's fine.
[57:24] So trustees I will go to my thing here. Give me a minute. I need to find
[57:30] my my number. Oh, I'm looking for four.
[57:33] Number four. Here we go.
[57:36] Okay. So, this has been around for a
[57:40] while. I'm hoping that you all have had
[57:42] plenty of time to read this. Um because
[57:45] again, if we have an ordinance, it's
[57:48] only a good idea unless you have some
[57:51] way to follow up and make sure that
[57:53] people are doing what they're supposed
[57:55] to be doing.
[57:56] >> Um in this ordinance, again, we are
[58:00] giving work to the to the village clerk
[58:03] as the lead person to administer all of
[58:05] this. the clerk can ask for assistance
[58:08] from the board in which case the
[58:11] trustees we will appoint one of our
[58:13] members to help the clerk. So first and
[58:16] foremost I would want to know what our
[58:19] clerk Lori has felt about this um this
[58:23] policy and procedure and was this
[58:26] something that you would request help
[58:28] for.
[58:31] » I think it's fine. I don't foresee it being so busy that I
[58:37] would need to request help, but if I do,
[58:40] I will um ask one of you.
[58:43] >> Okay. I just didn't think it would be
[58:46] right to assign work without asking your
[58:48] opinion.
[58:50] >> Does that mean that Lori would be
[58:51] receiving the annual fees? It means that
[58:54] Lori would be the one to take the form,
[58:58] the short-term rental registration form.
[59:02] >> Yes.
[59:03] >> Do the first of all, do the research.
[59:06] Look on the VBO, the Airbnb, whatever
[59:09] those sites are. Find out who is
[59:11] advertising things in North Bennington.
[59:14] send the registration form um and
[59:17] perhaps a copy of the policy or whatever
[59:20] we need um to uh to that individual and
[59:26] then request the fee which we have to
[59:28] vote on um and the the registration form
[59:32] back. Keep that in a file. Of course,
[59:35] any uh um income goes any checks go to
[59:40] Doug and Doug does the accounting for
[59:43] that. Um, but yes, Lori would Lori would
[59:46] have to do this and it says that we do
[59:49] this by July 1st of every year.
[59:55] » Okay. And the fee that was proposed was
[59:57] $100.
[59:58] >> Yes.
[1:00:00] >> And I just saw a mistake here. Under the
[1:00:03] what? Who? What? The third one down. It
[1:00:07] says an annual fee. It should say an
[1:00:10] annual fee. I missed a capital A. So,
[1:00:14] we'll get that in there.
[1:00:17] >> Well, okay. So, do we are we voting on
[1:00:20] this
[1:00:21] >> as a a final vote?
[1:00:23] >> We need to have a motion and a vote on
[1:00:25] the fee and then the procedure.
[1:00:28] >> Well,
[1:00:29] >> or both. I'll move that we adopt the
[1:00:33] administrative plan policy for the
[1:00:35] short-term rentals including the annual
[1:00:38] fee as stated $100
[1:00:42] accepting the small correction to be
[1:00:45] >> okay.
[1:00:47] >> Thank you.
[1:00:48] >> I'll second that.
[1:00:49] >> Seconded that. Any questions from you,
[1:00:52] Tara?
[1:00:54] >> Nope. Uh all in favor?
[1:00:58] Hi. All right. Um, since I did have one
[1:01:01] change to this, I will come around and
[1:01:03] find all of you for signatures and this
[1:01:06] will be done initiated initiated in
[1:01:09] September
[1:01:11] of 2026. Okay. Thank you. We'll do that.
[1:01:15] Um, the other thing unless unless Kim
[1:01:19] you were going to mention that I was
[1:01:21] going to just uh since most tr since I
[1:01:25] believe I sent this to all trustees the
[1:01:28] there is a uh basically a zoom a
[1:01:31] Microsoft teams meeting on October 15
[1:01:36] from 1 to 2 and this is regarding um dam
[1:01:41] safety and uh it's a subgrant grantee
[1:01:45] meeting. The parent dan was one of two
[1:01:50] that were selected by the state for
[1:01:52] study for um um safety issues.
[1:01:59] Kim, did I get that right? Is there
[1:02:00] anything I'm missing? No, that's right.
[1:02:04] and the the we're one of two villages
[1:02:08] that um are getting that grant and we
[1:02:12] will find out what our requirements are
[1:02:15] to receive that grant on October 15th.
[1:02:20] >> Yeah. Could you repeat the time since
[1:02:23] that's on the board?
[1:02:24] >> Yes, it's on the email, but it is uh but
[1:02:27] you'll want to find your email because
[1:02:28] you'll need that for the team's meeting
[1:02:30] link.
[1:02:30] >> I think I did. But it is on um on
[1:02:33] October 15th at 1:00
[1:02:37] >> and it's just by Zoom.
[1:02:39] >> It is by Yes. by teams. So when you load
[1:02:42] that up, you'll get
[1:02:43] >> virtually the same thing just like
[1:02:45] version.
[1:02:46] >> Yes. But you'll you'll be able to get into that. So
[1:02:50] >> Okay.
[1:02:51] >> I think that is good news. We just had
[1:02:54] we had you know the whole discussion
[1:02:56] about the safety of the
[1:02:57] >> of the of the dam and um you know hazard timing things like that. So there
[1:03:04] we are.
[1:03:05] >> Kim, is there anything else you would
[1:03:07] like to comment on?
[1:03:10] Well, I I'll mention that one of our uh
[1:03:13] citizens uh Rob Wilmington uh had a
[1:03:16] proposal for the study of the uh how to
[1:03:22] draw down the reservoir level if for
[1:03:26] knowledge of an extreme precipitation
[1:03:28] event was available.
[1:03:31] Um and it was his uh initiative in
[1:03:37] copying
[1:03:39] uh several politicians that got us on
[1:03:42] the map here for this particular
[1:03:45] uh grant. So we owe him a thanks.
[1:03:49] >> Yes, thank you for that acknowledgement.
[1:03:51] >> Yeah, think we can all thank Rome for
[1:03:53] that. But on the other hand, we can
[1:03:56] thank Scott here who was bringing this
[1:04:00] uh to the attention and
[1:04:05] also
[1:04:07] uh pushing for people to come down and
[1:04:11] look at
[1:04:12] >> look at.
[1:04:13] >> Yeah. And let me just say I have been um
[1:04:18] doing tours for so so far Rob Wilmington
[1:04:23] and I have walked around up at the dam.
[1:04:26] >> Um
[1:04:28] Will Greer and I spent an hour and a
[1:04:31] half going around. he was quite
[1:04:34] interested and then Tim Corkran came
[1:04:38] over
[1:04:40] and I believe he's the chair of the um
[1:04:44] House Transportation Committee. Yes. And
[1:04:47] Dan belongs to the transportation
[1:04:49] department. So, he'd be a good person
[1:04:53] >> to I thought he would be a good person
[1:04:55] to speak with. And then I went to an
[1:04:58] event um last Saturday for the uh
[1:05:01] someone who's running for governor, the
[1:05:04] Democratic nominee,
[1:05:06] and I brought it up when there was it
[1:05:08] was a meet and greet and I had a few
[1:05:10] moments where I could uh bring it up.
[1:05:13] So, actually, um
[1:05:16] uh I haven't been doing nothing. I've
[1:05:19] been trying to get the word out that um
[1:05:24] uh that we need to get some state
[1:05:28] involvement here.
[1:05:30] Um the other thing the the other person
[1:05:32] that might that we should acknowledge
[1:05:36] would be or the other group would be um
[1:05:40] the
[1:05:42] uh who does all the maps
[1:05:44] >> BCRC
[1:05:45] >> BPRC
[1:05:47] >> um because they're working on this is
[1:05:50] Darra Zinc who's working on a grant
[1:05:55] to have the four private exams
[1:06:01] evaluated for a brownfield
[1:06:04] study
[1:06:05] and
[1:06:07] yeah and um when I gave that pre
[1:06:11] presentation in the spring um I'm lo I'm
[1:06:15] slipping it's slipping my mind the chair
[1:06:17] of uh
[1:06:20] um BCRC
[1:06:23] >> uh uh Jim
[1:06:24] >> Coleman yeah uh anyway Jim
[1:06:28] He's trying to add Bill. Yeah, Bill is
[1:06:32] sorry, Bill.
[1:06:33] >> I'm thinking of Jim Henderson.
[1:06:35] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:06:36] >> Uh anyway, he's going to try to add
[1:06:39] >> the Lake Parent Dam onto the other four
[1:06:42] dam so that all five dams will be
[1:06:45] included in the same study. So, I don't
[1:06:47] know if that was involved here, but it's
[1:06:50] all going our way. It seems like
[1:06:52] >> at least
[1:06:53] >> I mean, nothing's been done.
[1:06:55] >> Nothing has been writing letters.
[1:06:56] >> Yes.
[1:06:57] >> Yeah. So I didn't I didn't mouth when I
[1:07:00] mentioned people because he's been
[1:07:02] instrumental as well.
[1:07:03] >> But I guess perseverance with all
[1:07:06] involved and many thanks to a whole a
[1:07:09] whole village of people.
[1:07:11] >> That's right. We are it's a big team
[1:07:13] project.
[1:07:14] >> Yes. And one more uh Seth uh Bongarts
[1:07:18] also spoke up for us. Um so that's one more to acknowledge
[1:07:25] in more uh planning commission um
[1:07:29] discussion. Uh we're aware of a
[1:07:32] hazardous building complaint um that has
[1:07:36] gone to the trustees. Um
[1:07:39] we were involved initially in drafting a
[1:07:45] ordinance about that and were told uh
[1:07:48] that by our legal count that remains an
[1:07:52] issue solely for the trustees to pursue.
[1:07:55] So uh while we're following it with
[1:07:58] interest um the planning commission's
[1:08:00] really not involved in that particular
[1:08:02] complaint
[1:08:04] >> and that is on our agenda under under
[1:08:06] new business. Okay. And then um lastly
[1:08:11] uh we have been um we've the planning
[1:08:14] commission has formed a subcommittee
[1:08:18] uh to discuss project costs
[1:08:21] uh as um
[1:08:25] they relate to zoning fees. That's how
[1:08:29] we're currently uh charging zoning fees
[1:08:32] by asking the
[1:08:35] uh applicants to identify
[1:08:39] uh the project cost, but we've never
[1:08:41] defined what should be included in the
[1:08:44] project cost. And so we have uh drafted
[1:08:49] a preliminary description of that and
[1:08:52] also tried to uh look for fairer uh
[1:08:59] zoning fee schedule
[1:09:02] and we'll be discussing that and
[1:09:04] eventually bringing that to the trustees
[1:09:09] and that's really um what I have for the
[1:09:12] planning commission at this point
[1:09:14] >> and that Planning Commission meeting is
[1:09:17] next week
[1:09:20] uh
[1:09:22] >> 16th.
[1:09:23] >> The 16th. Yes.
[1:09:31] » Kim, I had a quick question. Have you
[1:09:34] seen any uh report on this year's dam
[1:09:38] inspection?
[1:09:40] >> No. The inspection I believe for a high
[1:09:42] hazard dam is every two years. Right.
[1:09:44] And they did it in 24, which I had a
[1:09:48] copy of, and 26. They did it again, but
[1:09:53] I don't know that they've issued a
[1:09:54] report yet. So, I just wondered if
[1:09:56] you've seen
[1:09:57] >> I I have not seen one. No.
[1:09:59] >> Okay. Thank you.
[1:10:01] >> Maybe that's something that a question
[1:10:02] that can be asked next week.
[1:10:06] I have uh in my correspondence with Rob
[1:10:09] Wilmington, I have copied um Ben Green
[1:10:13] who's the head of that program.
[1:10:15] >> Oh, good. Great.
[1:10:19] » Okay. Any other questions for the
[1:10:22] planning commission or regarding the
[1:10:24] planning commission?
[1:10:27] >> No. Okay.
[1:10:30] Um under new business uh first thing I
[1:10:33] wanted to just alert I don't again don't
[1:10:36] have a lot of information on this but um
[1:10:40] thanks to Will Greer he alerted me to
[1:10:44] the fact that there is a
[1:10:48] national another national class action
[1:10:51] lawsuit going on against a number of uh
[1:10:55] chemical companies for PAS
[1:10:58] contamination. issues. Uh the deadline
[1:11:01] to just throw your name into the hat was
[1:11:05] um July 31st and he let he found out
[1:11:10] about this on July 30th and let me know
[1:11:14] the next day. And so with 12 hours to
[1:11:17] spare, we he helped me find the the
[1:11:20] forms. and we are uh aligned with a a
[1:11:24] law firm called Grossman and Kelly, one
[1:11:26] of three
[1:11:29] um firms dealing with this.
[1:11:33] The first uh part of this is um for
[1:11:37] again for PAS remediation in in
[1:11:41] municipal
[1:11:43] for municipal expenses. This is not
[1:11:45] individuals that had a well on their
[1:11:48] property and are looking for something
[1:11:50] like that. Um, I am still awaiting more
[1:11:54] firm information. I did get an email
[1:11:58] that um there are going to be some
[1:12:03] determinations
[1:12:05] made by the end of the year, if not
[1:12:08] sooner, um, for who what the
[1:12:12] dispersements will be. Um, I don't know
[1:12:16] the criteria for those dispersements.
[1:12:20] I'm waiting to get more information on
[1:12:22] that. For instance, I don't know if it's
[1:12:25] something based on an actual project
[1:12:28] that is submitted or is it based on some
[1:12:31] metric like population or something like
[1:12:35] that. So, we're trying to get all of
[1:12:37] those answers.
[1:12:38] The second part of this
[1:12:41] will be for PAS contaminated firefighter
[1:12:45] turnout gear. So this may be something
[1:12:48] that down the line we can help our
[1:12:51] volunteer fire department with um any
[1:12:54] gear upgrades or replacements that they
[1:12:57] may need. When we find out more about
[1:13:01] what this class action suit entails,
[1:13:04] what information the municipality has to
[1:13:08] provide to whom, when, where, why, all
[1:13:11] of that, um, we will call a special
[1:13:14] meeting and make sure that especially
[1:13:17] people who may have um, wells that seem
[1:13:22] still may be suspect or have that system
[1:13:25] in that has to filter out the the in the PAS um then we should invite the
[1:13:32] public to that meeting and let people
[1:13:34] know that there may yet be some help on
[1:13:38] the horizon. Um I am don't want to
[1:13:42] misspeak but I believe if memory is
[1:13:44] correct that this is some $30 billion
[1:13:48] dollar with a B uh involved in this
[1:13:50] nationally. So, uh, the this Grossman
[1:13:54] and Kelly company is dealing with a lot
[1:13:56] of smaller
[1:13:59] municipalities and so we have no
[1:14:02] obligation. We owe nothing if the
[1:14:05] village doesn't receive a dime. Um,
[1:14:08] there is a share of any settlement that
[1:14:11] does go to attorneys. It was fairly
[1:14:14] high, but frankly to my mind, some piece
[1:14:17] of the loaf is better than none of it.
[1:14:20] Um,
[1:14:22] and when can a small village sometimes
[1:14:25] do projects without without other
[1:14:28] assistance?
[1:14:30] >> So that's
[1:14:31] >> Can I ask a quick just a quick question?
[1:14:34] >> Is PF
[1:14:37] the same thing as PFOA
[1:14:39] that we dealt with like two or three?
[1:14:42] >> I am not a chemist. So somebody should say but there is an
[1:14:47] umbrella. My understanding is their
[1:14:49] umbrella of the peak fast and the PFOA
[1:14:52] is one of those under that
[1:14:54] >> right
[1:14:55] >> that umbrella. Thank you.
[1:14:57] >> So we um
[1:14:59] we went to a lot of trouble to get
[1:15:02] people off their residential drinking
[1:15:05] water wells and hook them up.
[1:15:09] >> Um but the but this could be an
[1:15:11] additional threat
[1:15:12] >> there
[1:15:13] >> beyond that. But there are people who
[1:15:15] would like to be hooked up that are not.
[1:15:17] >> Oh, no. We didn't get everybody.
[1:15:19] >> Oh, okay. Oh, I thought
[1:15:22] >> And then they changed the rules about
[1:15:25] um how do I say this level of
[1:15:30] >> contaminant
[1:15:31] >> contaminated
[1:15:35] some people as well. But
[1:15:37] >> yeah, they water department is aware of
[1:15:40] this. I did um let them know that the
[1:15:43] village has applied for this and this is
[1:15:45] even though it is a water system, it is
[1:15:47] this is a village project that we
[1:15:50] desperately would need um the expertise
[1:15:53] of the of the water department to help
[1:15:55] us do. Um but
[1:15:58] >> thank you.
[1:15:59] >> Thanks to Will Greer, the village of
[1:16:01] North Bennington is part of this.
[1:16:04] >> Wow. Um,
[1:16:05] >> so yeah,
[1:16:07] >> I just looked up PFAS and I'll just
[1:16:10] >> tell tell you what that stands for.
[1:16:12] >> Per and poly floral alcohol substances.
[1:16:17] >> Okay.
[1:16:20] » So it's much more inclusive than PFOS.
[1:16:23] >> But Mary is right. The PAS is the
[1:16:25] broader umbrella. The PFOA is the
[1:16:28] chemical.
[1:16:28] >> That was my point.
[1:16:30] >> Okay.
[1:16:30] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:16:32] It's it's the acid that we dealt with in
[1:16:34] uh the ChemFab area.
[1:16:39] >> Okay. So, the next item is um as was
[1:16:43] alluded to uh by Kim, we had a citizen
[1:16:47] complaint regarding um Seven Main
[1:16:50] Street.
[1:16:52] Um, I had sent out to everyone a draft of um
[1:17:01] of an informal notice. Um, it seems to
[1:17:05] me that the
[1:17:08] most of the issue that was complained
[1:17:10] about has been corrected. There is no
[1:17:13] vegetation in front of the building
[1:17:15] anymore. So, I'm not sure there is any
[1:17:19] uh any followup that we can do on this.
[1:17:23] Um, but I think the bigger issue, as Kim
[1:17:27] alluded to, is that when there are
[1:17:31] unsafe or hazardous conditions with a
[1:17:34] building, it is the trustes
[1:17:36] responsibility to do something. We don't
[1:17:40] have a separate ordinance, nor do we
[1:17:42] need a separate ordinance. it is already
[1:17:46] part of statute that
[1:17:49] you know municipal governance can take
[1:17:51] care of these things. So we we Chris
[1:17:56] helped and we can have um you know just
[1:18:01] some some templates of these informal
[1:18:05] notices that we can can send to people
[1:18:08] when there is a citizen complaint and
[1:18:11] probably should do so and then should
[1:18:14] have at least our own agreement that um
[1:18:19] that it needs to be done and that it is
[1:18:21] our our respons responsibility.
[1:18:23] Um, so,
[1:18:25] >> so if I might ask Chris the question,
[1:18:28] did you actually go into the building or
[1:18:31] you walked around? Well, it's hard to
[1:18:33] walk around, but uh,
[1:18:38] so I I thought there was a complaint
[1:18:40] about intrusions into the building or
[1:18:43] openings in the building and
[1:18:46] maybe rats.
[1:18:48] >> Right. the complaints that came in have
[1:18:51] all been put into this letter.
[1:18:54] So
[1:18:56] the pest and road structure
[1:18:59] instability was what was complaint was
[1:19:02] in the complaint.
[1:19:05] Yeah,
[1:19:05] >> it was the vegetation and that, you
[1:19:08] know, the vegetation growing, the
[1:19:09] unsightly vegetation growing in front of
[1:19:11] the building and uh um you know, I don't
[1:19:16] know if anyone interviewed the rats, but
[1:19:18] apparently there are there are rats or
[1:19:22] other rodents
[1:19:24] >> on there. I I don't know. and and nor was there a complaint about um
[1:19:31] about the the safety of the structure
[1:19:34] itself.
[1:19:35] So I don't know
[1:19:38] whether we have anything to
[1:19:41] follow up on in terms of in terms of of
[1:19:45] that complaint. The vegetation is not
[1:19:48] there.
[1:19:51] » Can I just ask a question? So you've got
[1:19:54] a complaint and you sent this letter.
[1:19:57] >> No, did not send a letter.
[1:19:59] >> So how did you contact the owner?
[1:20:01] >> No.
[1:20:02] >> Okay.
[1:20:03] >> But when I did a complaint like this,
[1:20:06] like for a building on seven main street
[1:20:08] or bar it
[1:20:11] >> I just basically sent it on to the
[1:20:13] trustees.
[1:20:14] >> Okay.
[1:20:14] >> But and
[1:20:18] devising a method to deal with the
[1:20:20] complaint was suggested that Maybe
[1:20:23] giving formal letter to the property
[1:20:25] owner
[1:20:25] >> would be a starting point to say, "Hey,
[1:20:29] we've had neighbors complaining about
[1:20:31] the building
[1:20:32] >> and it's our trustees responsibility to
[1:20:36] handle that." And that's kind of a
[1:20:40] starting point with property owner to
[1:20:42] see what the response is.
[1:20:44] >> Got it. Okay. I thought you mentioned
[1:20:46] that.
[1:20:46] >> Yeah. the letter did not have the
[1:20:49] because it's a resp trustee
[1:20:51] responsibility to do this. It's nothing
[1:20:53] that the zoning administrator would do.
[1:20:56] But when I was trying to craft a draft
[1:20:58] to send to everybody to say, "What do we
[1:21:00] do?" Chris was able to provide this
[1:21:04] template that we he and I sat and met
[1:21:07] and we adjusted it because
[1:21:10] there were a few things in the in the
[1:21:12] general template that were not part of
[1:21:15] what anybody complained about. So, I'm
[1:21:17] not going to, you know, didn't think it
[1:21:19] would be right to send that out. Now my question is now that at least the
[1:21:25] main part of that
[1:21:28] has been taken care of,
[1:21:31] what do we send a letter about?
[1:21:33] >> Mary, there have been two subsequent
[1:21:36] emails uh today.
[1:21:39] >> Uh I'm not sure you've seen those, but
[1:21:42] uh the complaint is still there.
[1:21:48] I saw a complaint about the garage
[1:21:51] behind it with with uh um you know the
[1:21:54] tractors and the lawnmowers in the road.
[1:21:58] >> Well, they said the vegetation was just
[1:22:00] put behind powers instead of you know
[1:22:02] just p the trash was moved up the street
[1:22:06] slightly.
[1:22:09] >> I I I can only say that there were
[1:22:11] additional emails uh that you might want
[1:22:14] to look at. Okay.
[1:22:16] Well,
[1:22:17] >> wait. Are we talking about two different
[1:22:19] properties now?
[1:22:20] >> I I guess
[1:22:22] >> Yeah, they're
[1:22:22] >> the same person I saw an email from the
[1:22:26] same person who had the question on this
[1:22:29] building said that could we also do
[1:22:32] something about the building behind it
[1:22:35] where that equipment sometimes is in a
[1:22:38] street.
[1:22:38] >> Yes. Well, there's considerable history
[1:22:40] on that one and we got to consult the
[1:22:42] people who don't know the history
[1:22:45] >> and we do have I'm not even going to
[1:22:48] talk about that one today, but that one
[1:22:51] was decided decades ago and there is a
[1:22:54] court order dated decades ago to deal
[1:22:57] with that and it was never ever pursued.
[1:23:01] So,
[1:23:01] >> take my name.
[1:23:02] >> It was partially pursued. Maybe it was,
[1:23:05] but
[1:23:06] >> because they they planted a screen of
[1:23:08] trees to hide the back,
[1:23:11] >> but the main part of it,
[1:23:13] >> the walls are still there. Yeah.
[1:23:15] >> Anyway, my question is, what do what
[1:23:19] does this body feel should be done about
[1:23:22] the complaints on the property at 7 Main
[1:23:26] Street?
[1:23:31] » Sounds like we should at least look at
[1:23:33] it. But who's going to look at it?
[1:23:36] >> I can look at it.
[1:23:37] >> Yeah,
[1:23:38] >> that's right.
[1:23:39] >> Did you see? Yeah.
[1:23:40] >> I mean, so far there's vegetation
[1:23:43] problem, but then there are uh
[1:23:46] structural intrusions and there may be
[1:23:50] uh
[1:23:50] >> we don't there there was there is the
[1:23:54] there is not a structural intrusion that
[1:23:56] we know of.
[1:23:57] >> Okay. I thought there was a mention of
[1:24:00] >> it was in it was and a one of the
[1:24:04] original
[1:24:05] um drafts had u something about that and it says
[1:24:13] rotted wood falling debris unmaintained
[1:24:16] grounds. It's not all of it. It's the
[1:24:19] unmaintained grounds. But that was just
[1:24:22] kind of a general um but there's nobody
[1:24:26] overgrowth
[1:24:27] >> overgrowth and structural openings have
[1:24:30] turned the property into a breeding
[1:24:31] ground. So you're correct there but we I
[1:24:34] don't know that this is a
[1:24:36] >> So can can we start at the beginning and
[1:24:38] can we get the property owners
[1:24:42] information?
[1:24:43] >> Yes, we have that.
[1:24:44] >> We have that.
[1:24:45] >> Yes. So, u
[1:24:49] I mean somebody could call the property.
[1:24:52] >> Um
[1:24:53] we have an address and it's on the
[1:24:55] letter.
[1:24:56] >> We don't have a telephone.
[1:24:58] >> Yes. Um this sounds reminiscent of what
[1:25:03] we were doing on Water Street with the
[1:25:05] rat problem with the garbage. What were
[1:25:08] the steps we took for the water street
[1:25:10] property? Because that might be the same
[1:25:13] process that we need to follow. That was um
[1:25:19] a rats that actually were visible in one
[1:25:23] property and going to another and that
[1:25:26] was dealt with by the referred to this
[1:25:30] town of Bennington sanitation
[1:25:32] department.
[1:25:33] >> Is this I know this isn't quite as
[1:25:35] grievous as that but it is
[1:25:37] >> possible to do.
[1:25:38] >> It's in the same vein.
[1:25:40] >> Yes. Yes, it's possible to do. Now, I
[1:25:47] I'm just looking for your advice because
[1:25:50] I don't I haven't
[1:25:54] seen a wrap. Um, not that they're not
[1:25:57] there. It seems likely.
[1:26:00] >> Well, any trash that isn't in a
[1:26:02] receptacle, as in like a closed garbage
[1:26:05] can or
[1:26:06] >> It's not trash, though.
[1:26:08] >> It was It's not trash because it's an
[1:26:12] uninhabited building. So there's no
[1:26:13] trash.
[1:26:15] >> So why don't you call why don't you call
[1:26:18] the property owner and tell them that
[1:26:20] there has been a complaint and tell them
[1:26:23] what the complaints are or write a
[1:26:25] letter.
[1:26:27] >> You know, that seems like the simplest
[1:26:29] thing to do, just to directly talk to
[1:26:31] them and perhaps they'll clean it up or get back to you or something like
[1:26:37] that.
[1:26:38] >> Oh, who is David had a thought? Well, I just I think I might know the owner.
[1:26:43] I'd have to confirm that, but um I I
[1:26:46] know who they are and
[1:26:52] anyway, I I I think I'd be happy to
[1:26:55] reach out to us if she
[1:26:57] >> I was because my next thought was I was
[1:26:59] going to ask for who's volunteering to
[1:27:01] do this,
[1:27:02] >> right?
[1:27:03] >> I I Chris take a walk around and look
[1:27:07] around. has helped me draft a letter
[1:27:09] that some of what is in this letter is
[1:27:11] no longer relevant it seemed. Yeah.
[1:27:13] >> So before sending something,
[1:27:15] >> what I think though I think and again
[1:27:18] trustee, but I think if you have a
[1:27:21] complaint, whether it's been fixed now
[1:27:23] or not, I think you need the letter to
[1:27:25] in case something else happens. If it
[1:27:27] keeps happening, they don't mow the lawn
[1:27:29] for another eight months, but you didn't
[1:27:32] send a letter that says, "Hey, we got a
[1:27:34] complaint that you didn't mow your
[1:27:35] lawn."
[1:27:36] >> It never happened.
[1:27:38] >> Okay.
[1:27:38] >> Right. I I I think you
[1:27:40] >> So then the question is would would this body rather have a letter be
[1:27:45] sent or would you would this body rather
[1:27:47] have somebody volunteer to go look at it
[1:27:50] and talk to some to to somebody.
[1:27:52] >> I would
[1:27:53] >> I don't really care.
[1:27:54] >> I would rather start with talking to
[1:27:56] somebody
[1:27:57] >> then that's great.
[1:27:59] >> Sounds too great.
[1:28:00] >> Good. So you got you two can take that
[1:28:02] up. But the other issue is that there
[1:28:06] should be a process that we have to do
[1:28:08] with to deal with this. And now that the
[1:28:12] same person has made the second
[1:28:13] complaint about the property behind
[1:28:15] that, what I can do is look up because I
[1:28:18] know it's in here somewhere, I found it
[1:28:21] the court order from quite some time ago
[1:28:25] with what that court order said should
[1:28:28] happen with that property.
[1:28:29] >> I I could talk to that guy, too.
[1:28:31] >> Okay.
[1:28:35] I haven't seen my home.
[1:28:36] >> I know. That's what I'm wondering.
[1:28:38] >> All right. Well, thank you. Let's
[1:28:40] resolve that. Thank you both for your
[1:28:42] volunteering to take care of that. Um,
[1:28:47] last thing is the draft policy for
[1:28:49] complying with open meeting law. This is
[1:28:52] another thing that we had a group of
[1:28:54] people work on. Um, and I know it's
[1:28:58] late, but I'm going to just take a few
[1:29:00] minutes to go through a couple of the
[1:29:04] important pieces in in here. We found
[1:29:08] that after doing some open meeting law
[1:29:11] training um that really none of our
[1:29:16] adi nonadvisory boards were completely
[1:29:20] doing everything the open meeting law
[1:29:22] required.
[1:29:25] um nothing was you know like
[1:29:28] well it just wasn't as complete as it
[1:29:31] could be. So in the interest of making
[1:29:34] sure that our citizens and residents are
[1:29:38] as fully informed as they can be about
[1:29:41] what happens in these meetings and what
[1:29:44] our response roles and responsibilities
[1:29:46] are. Um we are going to draft this
[1:29:50] policy. It's one thing to go to a
[1:29:53] training once once a year and then it's
[1:29:56] another thing to make sure that every
[1:29:57] member of uh a committee um or a
[1:30:01] commission is aware of what they should
[1:30:03] do and then okay who is going to do what
[1:30:06] much like we just talked about. It's our
[1:30:08] responsibility to take care of an issue
[1:30:11] but who is going to do it.
[1:30:14] Just briefly,
[1:30:17] basic requirements
[1:30:19] are to provide advanced notice of a
[1:30:21] meeting. We do this, it should be done
[1:30:23] at least 30 days prior to an a meeting.
[1:30:26] Notice of a meeting is not the same as
[1:30:29] agenda. Notice of a meeting is just,
[1:30:31] hey, we're going to have this meeting
[1:30:33] and here's when it's going to be because
[1:30:35] our
[1:30:37] annual report has a page that lists when
[1:30:40] the meet all when all the meetings are
[1:30:43] that takes care of this uh of of this
[1:30:46] notice requirement.
[1:30:49] Um we create and posted an agenda for
[1:30:53] all regular and special meetings.
[1:30:56] Agendas
[1:30:57] at a minimum are posted 48 hours uh in
[1:31:02] advance of a regular meeting and 24
[1:31:04] hours in in advance of a special
[1:31:07] meeting. Our policy again in the
[1:31:10] interest of public awareness and
[1:31:12] participation we are going to endeavor
[1:31:15] to post our agendas not less than 3 days
[1:31:18] or 72 hours before a meeting. Um because
[1:31:22] very often if you're going to do
[1:31:24] something two days from now, if you're
[1:31:27] not in the post office, you're not
[1:31:28] looking at a website, if you're not at
[1:31:30] the library, you might not know there
[1:31:32] was one. So we're going to try to be a
[1:31:34] little bit better than than the minimum
[1:31:36] requirement. Our policy also says where
[1:31:39] everything will be uh posted. Agendas um
[1:31:43] are supposed to include specific details
[1:31:46] about what is going to be discussed. We
[1:31:49] have endeavored to do that for a while
[1:31:51] with our board of trustees and with our
[1:31:54] um with our our planning commissions and
[1:31:56] certainly the DRB has to uh do that. So
[1:32:01] um but we can always do a little bit
[1:32:04] better in in doing these things. Um
[1:32:11] all business is conducted in an open
[1:32:14] meeting. We are no longer required to
[1:32:17] have a hybrid meeting which is in person
[1:32:19] and electronically
[1:32:22] but if someone requested electronic
[1:32:25] access you would have to provide it. So
[1:32:28] why not just do it in addition
[1:32:32] it is required I didn't know this that
[1:32:35] you post the recording of your meeting
[1:32:38] and you have to record a meeting.
[1:32:40] Whether you tell people about it is one
[1:32:43] thing, but you have to record a meeting.
[1:32:45] So, as long as we're recording it and we
[1:32:48] have to post it on the website, why not
[1:32:50] just put it on the agenda and invite
[1:32:52] everyone to do so? So, that's what we're
[1:32:54] doing. Um,
[1:32:57] I'm going to go allowing public comment
[1:33:00] at meetings. We always do this and we
[1:33:03] have always at the first meeting of each
[1:33:07] new year um we adopt our rules of
[1:33:10] procedure and that specifies a lot about
[1:33:14] how how the meetings are conducted
[1:33:16] minutes taking and posting minutes. Lori
[1:33:19] is a past master at doing this has done
[1:33:21] this for many many years and she knows
[1:33:25] all of the the uh requirements here. Um
[1:33:29] it is required that we post on our
[1:33:32] website within five calendar days of a
[1:33:35] meeting um a at a a draft of the
[1:33:39] minutes. So we do that um we will do
[1:33:42] that and along with that we will now be
[1:33:45] we have been the last two months we now
[1:33:48] post the um link to this this zoom
[1:33:53] session. Uh
[1:33:56] and
[1:33:57] finally, um the public has a right to
[1:34:02] complain or
[1:34:05] um have or send in a notice of
[1:34:08] violation. We now have on our website as
[1:34:12] required by statute a copy of the
[1:34:14] statute that tells the public what their
[1:34:18] rights are. It's in terms of open
[1:34:20] meeting law. We also have a form right
[1:34:24] next to that where if someone feels that
[1:34:27] they were harmed by a violation of an
[1:34:29] open meeting law, they would fill that
[1:34:31] out. They would send that to the
[1:34:33] village. It goes to the PO box and then
[1:34:36] Lori as receiver of that would bring
[1:34:39] that and then there's a whole set of
[1:34:41] regulations that a board would have to
[1:34:43] do legally once a a notice of violation
[1:34:47] is received. That violation cannot just
[1:34:50] be something general. It can't just be,
[1:34:52] oh, I wanted to go look at your uh
[1:34:57] minutes and they were they were not out
[1:34:59] there, you know, 24 hours ahead of time
[1:35:02] or 48 hours ahead of time that there has
[1:35:04] to be a specific harm. You you didn't
[1:35:07] post it. You discussed something that
[1:35:09] was not on the agenda and I was harmed
[1:35:11] because so that's that. Anyway, I am
[1:35:16] asking since you have all seen this, I
[1:35:19] would like to have us
[1:35:24] agree that this is
[1:35:27] the village policy, not just for us, but
[1:35:30] for everyone who comes behind us and
[1:35:33] takes over after after we're not here.
[1:35:36] Leave a little handbook to say here's
[1:35:38] how we do things.
[1:35:42] » We need a resolution.
[1:35:43] >> Yes. Unless anybody has any questions
[1:35:47] or comments or thoughts, but
[1:35:49] >> I'll I'll make a resolution and then we
[1:35:51] can have a second and we can discuss
[1:35:54] further if we need to.
[1:35:56] >> Thank you.
[1:35:56] >> I'll make a resolution that we adopt the
[1:36:00] draft.
[1:36:02] How do you title it? Policy and
[1:36:04] procedure for compliance
[1:36:07] law requirements of the village of
[1:36:09] North.
[1:36:12] Second.
[1:36:14] >> All in favor?
[1:36:16] >> I.
[1:36:17] will have everybody sign this last
[1:36:19] page and then I will get this posted and
[1:36:21] out to everyone.
[1:36:23] >> All right. Next. We'll do that.
[1:36:25] >> Really nice.
[1:36:26] >> Thank you. Now, and thank you for there
[1:36:28] was a people from all commission all of
[1:36:31] the committees that helped me and do
[1:36:33] this. Um, okay. Next thing. Wait,
[1:36:38] I didn't ask you guys. You didn't just
[1:36:41] come here to sit here and listen to us.
[1:36:45] >> We're learning a lot. That's a good
[1:36:47] >> Yes. But this is new business. I should
[1:36:50] have invited you first. Please. I'm so
[1:36:53] sorry.
[1:36:55] >> Floor is yours.
[1:36:56] >> On behalf of Park House, I'm David Hart.
[1:36:58] This is Al. I'm the new board president.
[1:37:00] So, um, we just wanted to come and give
[1:37:03] you an update uh where we are. We're a
[1:37:06] little bit past halfway through the
[1:37:08] season and this is uh our 168th
[1:37:11] anniversary free admission this year. We
[1:37:14] have doubled the number of people who
[1:37:15] have gone through the house. I can't
[1:37:17] speak to the number of people who've
[1:37:18] come outside the house. We will have
[1:37:20] those numbers for you at the end of our
[1:37:22] season. So all very very good things. Um
[1:37:25] just a couple things to mention that uh
[1:37:28] this uh on the 13th is the community
[1:37:31] block party which will be held on
[1:37:33] ground. So we encourage everybody to
[1:37:35] come and do that. Alan, is there more
[1:37:38] that you would like to say?
[1:37:40] >> Uh, anecdotally, one of the things
[1:37:42] that's changed in our that people have
[1:37:46] noticed is that uh the number of young
[1:37:49] people coming through the house is way up.
[1:37:54] >> Number of children
[1:37:56] with families with young children is way
[1:37:59] bigger as a number which is really
[1:38:01] great. something we were looking to try
[1:38:04] to make happen. And this is part of why
[1:38:07] we went to uh a non- admission policy
[1:38:09] this year. Um
[1:38:12] I'll put on another hat and say uh
[1:38:14] living room theater had a had celebrated
[1:38:17] our 15th season. Thank you all those of
[1:38:19] you who were able to make it. Uh it was
[1:38:21] a very successful season for us. We run
[1:38:23] three weeks instead of two. Was our
[1:38:24] largest number of audience members over
[1:38:27] 600 people came to see our productions.
[1:38:30] We uh
[1:38:32] were rained out of two of our 15 nights,
[1:38:35] but we're able to move all of those
[1:38:37] audience members to other nights. So, we
[1:38:38] didn't lose any audience. 40% of our um
[1:38:44] uh swiped credit card transactions this
[1:38:47] year were first time customers.
[1:38:52] >> Nice.
[1:38:52] >> Great. which I I I don't quite
[1:38:54] understand why that is or how that is,
[1:38:57] but a huge new audience. Um that's been
[1:39:00] true. It's been growing every year. Our our audience is diversifying and
[1:39:05] widening and broadening uh in major
[1:39:07] ways. And so that's all really exciting.
[1:39:09] Um we're proud that we can bring people
[1:39:13] into Northbank to to to see what we're
[1:39:16] doing, but to bring them to the to the
[1:39:18] grounds and to the village. So I'll just
[1:39:22] to say thank you all. You know, you
[1:39:24] support us and your dollars are going to
[1:39:26] do good things. We've done 87 events
[1:39:30] this year. Last year at the end of the
[1:39:33] season, we had done 71. So, we are way
[1:39:35] ahead of where we are. Um the house
[1:39:38] closes on October 19th, so we still have
[1:39:40] about a month to go and we will do
[1:39:43] another tree lighting on December 7th.
[1:39:46] We hope everybody participate in and we
[1:39:48] look forward to being at future
[1:39:50] meetings. Please come to our future
[1:39:52] meetings and we'll let you know when our
[1:39:54] budget meetings are happening.
[1:39:55] >> Can I just say I've only been to a
[1:39:57] couple of these, but oh my god, what you
[1:40:00] people do is extraordinary.
[1:40:04] The attention, the
[1:40:06] detail, the the care, the concern, the
[1:40:09] appreciation for all of what this
[1:40:12] village is. It's
[1:40:16] really
[1:40:19] very moving.
[1:40:21] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[1:40:23] >> Hey, there's a
[1:40:23] >> not just us, it's other there's an
[1:40:26] opening on the development review board
[1:40:28] called
[1:40:32] » there
[1:40:33] >> and also on the planning commission.
[1:40:36] I I would like to u if it's not too out
[1:40:40] of order uh note that there is a jazz
[1:40:43] concert in the uh carriage barn on
[1:40:46] Saturday the 13th is the 12th
[1:40:51] >> yeah the with David Binman and uh the
[1:40:56] percussionist from the college
[1:40:58] >> and a dancer from the college
[1:41:01] >> and that that should be pretty
[1:41:03] wonderful. I've listened to David's
[1:41:05] music on a number of occasions
[1:41:09] >> and
[1:41:10] >> spread the word.
[1:41:11] >> Yes.
[1:41:12] >> Yeah. It's that's at 7:00 Saturday and
[1:41:15] there's uh $10 for students and 25 for
[1:41:20] adults.
[1:41:21] >> Is that the 12th?
[1:41:22] >> 12th.
[1:41:23] >> Yeah.
[1:41:24] September 13th for 13th is when
[1:41:27] the community
[1:41:28] >> What time is the box event is?
[1:41:30] >> 12.
[1:41:31] >> 12th. There's a there's a poster of it
[1:41:33] right there.
[1:41:34] >> Yes.
[1:41:35] >> And it's all over the place. Yes.
[1:41:39] >> Good. Thanks for that plug because
[1:41:43] >> we need we need to get that word out.
[1:41:46] Um, anything else.
[1:41:49] >> No,
[1:41:49] >> feel free to stay. We only have a couple
[1:41:51] more pieces of business if you want.
[1:41:53] Update.
[1:41:54] >> Well, you can leave if you
[1:41:56] update.
[1:41:58] >> Thank you. Take care.
[1:41:59] >> Quick update on two of our grants. The
[1:42:02] municipal energy resilience project
[1:42:04] Merc. Many thanks to Rey for helping um
[1:42:08] uh Nicole Henry who's doing the thermal
[1:42:12] envelope work here at the depot getting
[1:42:15] her in and out of the building.
[1:42:16] >> David
[1:42:17] >> and David for helping with all of that.
[1:42:20] Actually, David's done even more. Um so
[1:42:24] there has been some movement on this. Um
[1:42:27] Neil Kenyon has worked on the bathrooms.
[1:42:30] Um the downstairs bathroom is part of
[1:42:33] the grant. The upstairs bathroom is not.
[1:42:36] And I had a note to ask Norm about
[1:42:39] whether we can use the toilet upstairs.
[1:42:43] Um whether that's hooked up and I he's
[1:42:45] not here to ask. So I will follow up
[1:42:47] with him tomorrow on that one. But
[1:42:50] that's done. the depot weatherization
[1:42:53] here, the thermal envelope work is done.
[1:42:58] Tomorrow is the final blower door test
[1:43:00] to see how that's going. I I'll make
[1:43:03] sure that I'm here for that. Um, thank
[1:43:06] you to David for
[1:43:09] getting around and getting all the
[1:43:11] electrical quotes. We were not sure and
[1:43:15] it's not in necessarily in the grant,
[1:43:18] but there is electrical work that needs
[1:43:20] to be done. We thought it was really
[1:43:22] mostly this building that needed the
[1:43:24] upgrade,
[1:43:25] >> but there's a huge in uh improvement
[1:43:28] that's needed at the firehouse and also
[1:43:30] at the garage,
[1:43:31] >> right?
[1:43:32] >> Um so there's there's a significant
[1:43:35] expense. Uh it's a little over $14,000
[1:43:38] to get this done. Some of this we can
[1:43:42] cover with the contingencies in the
[1:43:45] grant itself. Some of this will will be
[1:43:48] coming out of our our reserve funds when all is said and done. The other
[1:43:53] good news is that
[1:43:56] um Green Mountain Power is going to
[1:44:00] provide us
[1:44:02] some $34,000
[1:44:05] to help us with this project. And we
[1:44:08] need it because the installation of the
[1:44:13] um HVAC systems are significantly higher
[1:44:18] than was estimated when the people who put
[1:44:22] the who came and did the initial
[1:44:24] assessment estimated what we would need
[1:44:27] here. Um I don't have a complete
[1:44:31] budget versus actual for this project
[1:44:35] yet. Bob Maderos has been helping with a
[1:44:38] lot of that work. Um he is out of town
[1:44:41] and will be back soon. But this project
[1:44:45] is coming along and needs to get done
[1:44:50] no later than well hopefully by mid
[1:44:53] December. We were hoping to have it done
[1:44:55] by the end of October but I don't know
[1:44:58] that that's possible. So
[1:45:00] >> just a interruption to the on the do the
[1:45:05] h do the panel boxes and have to go in
[1:45:09] before the u the uh
[1:45:14] actual equipment that's going to do
[1:45:16] heating and cooling.
[1:45:17] >> Yeah. Yes. I mean it it
[1:45:21] >> So we have to get that started.
[1:45:23] >> Right. So this Friday, um there's g um
[1:45:27] Dan Cutler, the electrician, is going
[1:45:29] around the electrical inspector.
[1:45:32] >> Okay.
[1:45:32] >> To do the work that needs to be.
[1:45:34] >> So that that's there's a process.
[1:45:35] >> It is in the way. I I've also reached
[1:45:39] out to uh one of Dan requested that
[1:45:42] could we clean up the clean out the back
[1:45:46] of the firehouse
[1:45:48] brush and everything.
[1:45:50] Yeah. So I did reach out to Ed and Ed
[1:45:53] said they would take care of it and get
[1:45:55] it all opened up back there.
[1:45:57] >> Okay.
[1:45:58] >> Um so that's moving forward. I did email
[1:46:03] I was hoping to get an answer tonight.
[1:46:05] Um Danny to see okay once you get your
[1:46:09] inspection and permits in place when are
[1:46:12] you going to start doing the work? And I told them we have a a strict
[1:46:16] deadline about when this needs to be
[1:46:18] done.
[1:46:18] >> Yeah. Can So as soon as we know when his
[1:46:21] schedule is, couldn't we schedule
[1:46:24] >> Bennington cooling?
[1:46:25] >> Yeah, Bennington cool.
[1:46:26] >> He is coordinating with them. Oh, he is.
[1:46:29] He reached out to them to find out
[1:46:31] exactly what he needs to do for them.
[1:46:33] >> That's excellent.
[1:46:34] >> Yeah. And all that. So they're working
[1:46:36] together on that.
[1:46:37] >> Wow. Good.
[1:46:38] >> So once I know from Dan what his
[1:46:40] schedule is, I will still follow
[1:46:42] >> Yeah.
[1:46:43] >> Bennington Cooling. He say this where
[1:46:46] we're at. All
[1:46:48] right, that's good.
[1:46:50] >> Is that circuit breaker box at the
[1:46:53] firehouse completely full? Is that one
[1:46:55] of the problems?
[1:46:56] >> Is it? No. The biggest problem there is
[1:46:58] that, believe it or not, that building
[1:47:00] only has 100 amp service in it.
[1:47:03] >> Too small.
[1:47:04] >> Yes, it's a small um you know, put you
[1:47:08] put that in a house these days. Um and
[1:47:11] uh so
[1:47:13] but there's two problems. They also have
[1:47:15] a a whole series of electrical work that
[1:47:18] was done for a generator, backup
[1:47:20] generator, which I believe they do not
[1:47:23] have anymore, but the equipment's there.
[1:47:26] And Ed seems to think that in the future
[1:47:28] they do want to get another generator.
[1:47:30] So,
[1:47:31] >> so we got to kind of work around that.
[1:47:33] So, what he's going to do is put a
[1:47:35] upgrade the service, but then put a sub
[1:47:37] panel on the outside of the building
[1:47:39] that will take care of the um HVAC
[1:47:43] equipment.
[1:47:45] >> The only and all that is that it's not
[1:47:49] should they go ahead and get the
[1:47:50] generator in the future?
[1:47:53] Um
[1:47:54] is this new panel on the outside is
[1:47:57] going to be um it's not going to be part
[1:48:01] of the building. Um so the generator
[1:48:04] kicks on, it won't
[1:48:07] pick up the building.
[1:48:08] >> Well, no, it won't it won't run the heat
[1:48:11] pumps,
[1:48:12] >> but the building still has heat. When
[1:48:14] you look at the size, the frame is
[1:48:15] small.
[1:48:16] >> It won't run the heat pump. It doesn't
[1:48:19] feed into the pen one side.
[1:48:20] >> It doesn't feed into the pen. So, what
[1:48:22] he's trying to do is because if you
[1:48:24] could
[1:48:26] there's a a complicated setup in there
[1:48:28] because of disconnects and all this kind
[1:48:30] of stuff with the generator.
[1:48:32] >> So, he said the easiest thing for them
[1:48:34] to do was just to be put it near the
[1:48:36] panel, near the meter on the outside of
[1:48:38] the building, a sub panel. Mhm.
[1:48:40] >> And a lot of these heat pumps anyway get
[1:48:43] fed from you know on the outside of a
[1:48:45] building all electricity. Um so um you
[1:48:50] said it be that would be the most
[1:48:51] efficient way of doing it and that
[1:48:54] however means that when the generate kan
[1:48:59] it's not going to impact it's not going
[1:49:01] to help the heat pumps.
[1:49:04] >> Okay.
[1:49:04] >> So it's we can walk through it again if
[1:49:08] you'd like. Um but
[1:49:09] >> yeah,
[1:49:11] I'm not gonna ask for the furnace would
[1:49:14] be hooked into the uh generator.
[1:49:17] >> It is everything else in the building is will be
[1:49:20] >> so this the the this the secondary
[1:49:24] >> heat would work the backup
[1:49:25] >> if if you needed it in that situation.
[1:49:28] >> Yes. Yes.
[1:49:29] >> Yes. Okay, you're right. Yes. Yes.
[1:49:33] >> Okay.
[1:49:34] >> Well, thank you, David. I I really
[1:49:36] appreciate your contribution to this.
[1:49:39] >> It couldn't I know this is yet another
[1:49:41] grant that could not have worked without
[1:49:43] a huge number of people,
[1:49:46] >> you know, just a variety of people all
[1:49:48] coming together and making this work. Um
[1:49:51] the last one talking about variety of
[1:49:54] people coming together and making things
[1:49:56] work. Another thank you to David
[1:49:59] um our AARP community challenge grant
[1:50:02] that the village got um which was
[1:50:08] amazing because there are
[1:50:11] like thousands and thousands tens of
[1:50:14] thousands of applications and we were
[1:50:17] one of them that was selected. So that's
[1:50:19] pretty cool. Um again Jenny Rosiki
[1:50:22] helped me write this grant because I
[1:50:24] didn't know how to do it. So
[1:50:28] there we go. But David has helped
[1:50:30] >> makes a village.
[1:50:31] >> Yes, it does. Um David uh
[1:50:35] the reason why we're going to do the we
[1:50:37] have the DRB hearing is that where this
[1:50:40] sta this bus station is going to go it's
[1:50:43] going to be a covered shelter. Um and it
[1:50:45] is going to go into the EMG mark when
[1:50:48] you come in directly across from the
[1:50:51] left bank.
[1:50:52] >> Yeah. Um there's some little
[1:50:55] shrubs about you know two feet high and
[1:50:59] the property line is about roughly
[1:51:01] speaking about five feet back from those
[1:51:04] things. So we're going to get ask for a
[1:51:06] variance to go to the property line so
[1:51:09] that this shelter is not into
[1:51:13] the parking area and the bus can just
[1:51:17] pull up and come in there. So thank you
[1:51:19] to David for getting all of that work
[1:51:21] done. Norm is going to actually be doing
[1:51:24] the excavating and pouring the concrete.
[1:51:29] And um the folks at uh Green Mountain
[1:51:32] Express have a shelter waiting for us.
[1:51:36] They are have been helpful in having us
[1:51:38] selected this site. They've approved
[1:51:40] this. Um their bus driver likes where it's going to go.
[1:51:46] >> Yes. Uh and so this is another deadline
[1:51:50] has to be done by the end of end of uh
[1:51:52] October and Norm confirmed when he was
[1:51:55] here that we're we're on track for that.
[1:51:58] So um good things that when people come
[1:52:00] together there's money out there's that
[1:52:03] people can help support projects that
[1:52:06] need to be done and it just takes a
[1:52:09] number of people to get out there and
[1:52:10] look and get involved and look what we
[1:52:13] can do. help the village on things that
[1:52:16] we could not have done on our own. So,
[1:52:19] thank you all and everybody out there
[1:52:21] who is also
[1:52:24] that's all I have.
[1:52:28] » Motion to adjourn.
[1:52:31] >> Terra's got a thumb up on that one and
[1:52:34] I'm in the red on my battery. So, at
[1:52:36] 8:51, motion to adjurnn with there was a
[1:52:38] second I'm sure. All in favor? Hi.
[1:52:41] >> Hi.
[1:52:41] >> Uh, one quick thing quick.
[1:52:45] >> I It's just an announcement. Next
[1:52:47] meeting, the October meeting, I am away
[1:52:52] for a few weeks. I am not going to be
[1:52:55] here to get that agenda out on time. I'm
[1:52:58] not going to be here until the day
[1:53:00] before that meeting. So,
[1:53:02] >> what day is the October meeting?
[1:53:05] >> It's late.
[1:53:06] >> It's like the
[1:53:08] >> It's 13th or 14th.
[1:53:11] It's October 13th, but from what we just
[1:53:15] said, we want that agenda to go out no
[1:53:18] later than October 7th or 8th. I am not
[1:53:22] here. So, somebody's going to have to
[1:53:25] write that agenda, get everything out.
[1:53:28] Um Um Terry, you can set up a Zoom link,
[1:53:32] right? Or I can actually set up the Zoom
[1:53:34] link and it can sit there for a month. I
[1:53:36] was gonna say I have I have the DRB on a
[1:53:39] repeating Zoom link so it's the same.
[1:53:41] >> Okay. No, I'll go I'll go ahead and do
[1:53:43] that but again
[1:53:46] >> when are you going
[1:53:49] >> What's that?
[1:53:49] >> When are you gone?
[1:53:51] >> I am leaving on the 20th of October and
[1:53:55] I am back on the n September and I'm
[1:53:58] back on the 9th of October.
[1:54:00] >> Jesus have fun. Whatever you have to
[1:54:02] say.
[1:54:03] >> Where are you going?
[1:54:04] >> A film. Let me end the meeting.
[1:54:07] >> Thank you.
[1:54:08] >> Good point.
[1:54:09] >> Thank you, Michael Miller, whoever you
[1:54:11] are.