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Persist to this day You know,
I thought about this I want

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to dedicate this tonight
for the Pledge of Allegiance

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in honor of those
who were killed.

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But i came across an article
this morning on Military.com

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You can look it up.

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If you want, but there's Three
widows and the message they

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wanted to give out over
25 years was remember how

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we were as a nation back then ?

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Lots of signs like United.

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We stand.

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Never forget She
also said there was

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a kindness towards each other
an amazing united feeling.

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And patriotism.

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Other widows said, if we could
somehow harness that kindness

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that would be really beautiful
way to honor the lives that were

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lost on that horrific
day So to honor those

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killed and injured
on that fateful day,

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it's September 11th, 2001.

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On behalf of city
and everyone here.

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This evening I'd like to
dedicate the reciting the pledge

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of Allegiance in their honor.

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So if you could please
rise to the flag

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of the United States
of America for which

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it stands one nation under god.

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It is liberty and justice
for all All right.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Hill.

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We take roll call, please.

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Thank you.

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Let the record show that we have
council members, Canada Gooley

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meachum I, Bingara
Mayor Kevin schreiber,

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various staff and members of
the audience All right, perfect.

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All right.

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We do have an agenda
approved in front of us.

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I think we want.

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We have one person who
wants to remove something

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from the consent agenda.

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Mr. Canada.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor, please.

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Discussion All right.

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And that is seven echo.

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And that's to approve
an application

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for cannabis retail registration
for wild River Cannabis.

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Is that correct?

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Yes, sir.

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All right.

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I'll put that first thing
down on our staff reports.

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Who will make a nine and
everything else shift on One?

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Is there anything
else that members

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would like to have moved out ?

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All right, then I am
going to make a motion

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to approve the agenda as
laid out in front of us

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without one change under the
consent to have a second.

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Second.

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All right.

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First and second.

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All in favor signify
by saying I. I i.

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Motion passes move on
to public comment here.

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I think you saw one person
sign up All right, Mark.

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Mr. Mark, come on up
here Push the button.

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Yeah, that button please.

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Thanks for that
dedication there.

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I hope you all just
remember and remember

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what's happening in this
country And what's happening

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in your certain people.

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Show up for 911 that
shouldn't be there anyways.

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The country.

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I think, set a boiling point.

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But anyways I just like
to get some clarification

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later on today when
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about where our investments
are only making 0.0 8%.

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I get that much in a checking
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that So I think we can
do better there somehow.

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We'll get to that.

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And I know I talked to
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about that on Friday
but it brought it up.

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Got to.

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Yeah, it's closer to 4%, but
we'll go over that stuff too.

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And finance.

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Thank you, Mark.

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All right, Wes.

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Mr. West.

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Thank you.

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So I just wondering
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of an update on the
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or any sort of a
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And then I've also been hearing
rumors about a possible data

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center looking to come in here
And I see that our moratorium

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is coming up on an end.

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So any conversation
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that, because I do work in
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centers.

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I keep My finger on the
pulse of the industry.

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And these data centers do
nothing for the community

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for anything they cost
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and rising electrical
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water, everything like that.

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But also decrease
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And there's just nonstop
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with pollution complaints to
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And they're just not good.

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And I don't think that would
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So on the fly camera
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No I can help that
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OK On the fly camera.

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So I think the
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last time was to pursue council
on the contract with Aflac.

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I would disagree with
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that we need to pay for
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So we're working through
the process I also think,

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Councilmember, I've
binger also said

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that we do not
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use an alternate brand right.

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When there's no
intention to contract

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or put up any type of
license plate readers

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for the foreseeable future We're
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don't think there's any
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feedback, both, you know,
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and then in person So that's
what I would say is the angle.

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Anybody else want
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No, no, I'm that's our position.

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Good All right.

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As far as the data center.

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I guess I first had my point
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Had a long, robust discussion
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or Two week and a half ago.

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And that's where ryan or city
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really started laying
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that the planning commission
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and research to set up what a
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or what future policy
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So that's really in the first
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And Nate, remind me when we
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the maximum we could do the
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We chose to go with six.

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And I believe from the
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understood we could reopen
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if we needed more time to do
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for a future ordinance
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like for the data centers OK.

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Thank you.

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And we have we have we're
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Central energy, and I think
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a brief, maybe we'll
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type of a public q&A as well.

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We'll have to see.

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I haven't had a chance
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administrator about that either
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He had an article in
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and I thought was good article.

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But we haven't conversations.

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There's no intent to
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to we're not trying
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There's no incentives.

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I haven't heard
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If we're not done with that
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I can speak for
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pretty sure we'll
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working through the process.

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And again, I don't want to
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and watch it like that would
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for an ordinance
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are defining data centers
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commission First.

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So that would be
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the best spot to have those
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of open comments with
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and help kind of to that to
help them to find that process.

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I don't see ryan here,
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you want to add to that ?

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well, just letting you know,
it's not just data centers.

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It's high utility users.

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And so it's just it's looking
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So that's what is I do this
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I just I come back from,
you know, at Yeah, yeah.

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So we had some criteria
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And so that's Two things we're
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like a 25 megawatt is what
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square foot building was One of
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utilized We'll continue to
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our research to determine
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the correct you know limits as
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as we continue to do that
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bring that back to the
commission at council.

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Mark, I would say the
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1 Planning Commission meeting.

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Even if you just read
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there's a lot of
good information.

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It's going to answer some
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All right.

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Thanks, Wes.

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Any other public comment
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I was pretty flush
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of months on public comment,
so we need to conduct business.

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So if anybody has anything
else to say say it now.

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Otherwise, I'm not
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of the other public comment.

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Rest the meeting All right.

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Thank you very much.

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I appreciate that.

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All right.

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We do have a consent
agenda in front of us.

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And that is seven a,
there's an Apple iD

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under seven K and Hello
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which we bombed down in China.

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So 70 has been
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that motion to
approve the consent

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agenda without one change.

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We have a second, Mr.
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Any questions No.

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All right.

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All in favor signify by
saying I. I that passes

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unanimously Okay, gentlemen.

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All right.

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We'll move on to
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and that is approval of
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retail registry, Asian
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cannabis, LLC So,
Mr. Canada, you're

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the one who wanted that change.

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So that's it.

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And just some clarification.

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I apologize to
matthew, Mr. Hill,

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for coming at the last
minute, the i've been busy

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and i want to look at everything
on this consent agenda.

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And this caught
my eye in regards

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to the certification
of compliance Minnesota

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Worker's Compensation law.

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And number two, I'm not required
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And because I do not use
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and I have no employees So then
how is this is going to be run

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is my question The applicant
is here in the audience.

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If you'd like to
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At least you don't have it.

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If you can come to the I have
looked up the those statute,

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it's quite extensive in
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of that scope isn't
able to narrow it down.

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But it originally, it was
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And so I thought
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we don't have to pull the
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me and my wife and my daughter.

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But now that we have employees
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policy either because
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are coming to work
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all vetted through the state.

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OK, So you that means that they
are employees in or they're not.

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Yes.

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They won't be employed, right?

256
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Yeah.

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Friday when we open
their employees,

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technically,
they're just waiting

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So there's the application
has to be updated.

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And again when that
does happen, they

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will need to provide
their updated worker's

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comp certificate to
the state of Minnesota.

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OK Okay.

264
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I just then almost
up to the state.

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Okay.

266
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Please.

267
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Please do not appreciate that.

268
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Expect so much for the
clarification Thank you.

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Thanks.

270
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All right.

271
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Anything else, Mr. Canada or.

272
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Thank you All right.

273
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So then, looking
for an approval.

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So i'm going to make
a motion to approve

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the application I'll second.

276
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Okay.

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We have first and second.

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Any questions before we vote ?

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All in favor.

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Signify by saying i, i any
opposed That's unanimously

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And I would like
to make a record,

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Mr. Mayor, that i'm still
against the location

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of the business.

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So make that or the Okay,
I did vote for the consent.

285
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The meeting, all the legal
requirements by the state.

286
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Yes, sir They do All right.

287
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Move on to what is now known.

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Be in asked to consider
approval of a resolution

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and authorize the approval
of Northwest Old Town project

290
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Engineer proposal from wCB.

291
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So, Heidi, are you are
you kicking this off?

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I'm going to I'm going to
start it and pass it over

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to her for the
scope of, as we all

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know the scope of the project
has changed over the last couple

295
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of months The purpose
of this report

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is to request that the city
council approved a resolution

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authorizing the approval of
the Northwest Old Town Project

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engineering proposal from
WSP with the bare bones

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iteration of the Northwest
Old Town Project.

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The revised scope was developed
followed by the direction

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by the city council
on July 22 and then

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now we're moving forward with
that scaled down alternative Are

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the city originally will
forward with a construction

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full reconstruction of
the project including

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drainage roadway and utility
improvements following

306
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some significant community
engagement and mixed feedback

307
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regarding assessment costs.

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And the project's scale.

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The council directed staff to
pursue a barebones alternative

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This now revised option focuses
on some essential infrastructure

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needs including water main
replacement along nine blocks

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within the project corridor.

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Some spot repair is
on the sanitary sewer

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and that same area.

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And then the pavement
restoration above those digs

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that are being done
for the utility work.

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This does not include any
new drainage or stormwater

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improvements for that area The
budget and the cost estimates

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are included in your packet.

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And I am now going to
turn it over to Heidi

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to talk about the proposal
And one last thing

322
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I would like to include the the
cost estimate and the funding

323
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does include this an
engineer estimate in the

324
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in the funds for the project.

325
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So this is not above and beyond
the estimated 2.1 million.

326
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This includes the
engineering costs

327
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as well Thank you mr.
Health and Council members.

328
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Yes, we put together the
design proposal This is to move

329
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forward from this point.

330
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If authorize, we would move
forward with final design.

331
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We've done a lot of
preliminary work,

332
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so while we have
the survey is done

333
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and all this oil borings are
done and everything is Donna,

334
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we're ready to roll
into final design

335
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And so our proposal includes
the final design and bidding.

336
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We would just have one
more neighborhood meeting,

337
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really preconceived action.

338
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At this point, we are proposing
to maintain the project website

339
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and people could
go to the website

340
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and stay up to date
on what we're doing,

341
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sign up for email updates.

342
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We propose to include weekly
when construction is underway.

343
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We find it very helpful to
have weekly emails go out

344
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to anyone who has signed
up for the email list

345
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and we can tell them
what's going on this week

346
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and what's going to be disrupted
And the so the final plans

347
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and specification of the
bidding, public information,

348
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just maintaining that
communication with the community

349
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who's being impacted by
construction The construction

350
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survey administration
observation during construction,

351
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which would be next year.

352
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And then the material testing
that needs to occur just

353
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to make sure it's built right.

354
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And so our total design proposal
is detailed out in your packet

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a total cost of $315,000 $174.

356
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The schedule would be, again,
we would dive into final design,

357
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have that wrapped up
by the end of the year,

358
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God forbid, in January which
is an ideal time to go off

359
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for bids, jumping to
construction by May,

360
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June of next year And
again, a much simpler

361
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project because we're
just replacing water main

362
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and pavement really.

363
00:16:15,977 --> 00:16:17,797
I do think it's
important just to note,

364
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we know there are drainage
concerns out there.

365
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And so it's important to just
be very cognizant of the fact

366
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we are not addressing those.

367
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We will do everything we can
to make sure we're not making

368
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things worse, but we really
won't have any ability

369
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to make substantial
improvements without adding

370
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storm sewer All right.

371
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Questions for Heidi.

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I do.

373
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Go ahead.

374
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I do Have you heard any pros
and cons of now the new concept?

375
00:16:39,827 --> 00:16:42,077
I love the bare bones
How we calling it?

376
00:16:42,077 --> 00:16:43,877
Have you heard anything
on the email at all?

377
00:16:43,877 --> 00:16:44,846
I haven't heard anything.

378
00:16:44,846 --> 00:16:45,395
I had.

379
00:16:45,395 --> 00:16:46,337
No, I have not.

380
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I would ask staff if
they've heard any feedback.

381
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Nothing at City Hall either.

382
00:16:50,908 --> 00:16:53,277
OK It must be good.

383
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Is it?

384
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Yes.

385
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Now things are good
then All right.

386
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Thank you.

387
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My sense, if I may My sense
is there's some relief

388
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among many that about.

389
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No, no assessments.

390
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There was clearly a lot of
concern about the assessments

391
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that were proposed.

392
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And I think that was i know
there was at least a couple

393
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of folks who expressed
relief that they

394
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wouldn't be faced with that.

395
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Perfect.

396
00:17:13,937 --> 00:17:14,209
Great.

397
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Thank you.

398
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Thanks, Heidi Come on in Sit
down So I will say, I, you know,

399
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thank you to you and
Justin you both of you

400
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spent a lot of time
talking to a lot of people,

401
00:17:29,927 --> 00:17:32,207
listening to a lot of
different opinions.

402
00:17:32,207 --> 00:17:36,407
So that is very much appreciated
And obviously, we got

403
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a lot of different opinions.

404
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Right.

405
00:17:37,848 --> 00:17:42,017
And it was tough to come to
a consensus until we came to

406
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and I don't think it's
fair to call baseball.

407
00:17:44,090 --> 00:17:47,087
And these are core task
critical things right

408
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underground that are needed.

409
00:17:48,175 --> 00:17:49,637
And the primary
reason this all got

410
00:17:49,637 --> 00:17:52,757
talked about 30 years ago
when I read the newspaper,

411
00:17:52,757 --> 00:17:54,902
I felt like you kind of
had a bad perception.

412
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It does.

413
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And are very critical things
that healthy will prevent

414
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from having to dig up and
make repairs and waterline

415
00:18:01,526 --> 00:18:03,827
We've had to do a few times.

416
00:18:03,827 --> 00:18:06,107
I mean, it was
stated on the record,

417
00:18:06,107 --> 00:18:13,097
bare bones So it's someone said
i mean, it was someone said it.

418
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Yeah, I do.

419
00:18:15,397 --> 00:18:16,603
I mean, yeah.

420
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Mayor So.

421
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Question on proposed
project funding

422
00:18:21,347 --> 00:18:24,947
why are we taking so
little from the street

423
00:18:24,947 --> 00:18:28,697
fund and the water
fund and taking so much

424
00:18:28,697 --> 00:18:31,607
more from the restricted fund?

425
00:18:31,607 --> 00:18:33,947
I'll defer that to
the finance director,

426
00:18:33,947 --> 00:18:42,347
Sherry yeah I don't have
my notes in front of me,

427
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so I don't remember exactly
what we had decided.

428
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But I know that we started off
with the available money out

429
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of the restricted amount from
the sale of the electric and we

430
00:18:57,857 --> 00:19:03,647
were back to backwards from
there But the water fund has

431
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400,000 out of it because
the majority of the work is

432
00:19:09,527 --> 00:19:15,767
to replace waterline and then
the street fund is picking up

433
00:19:15,767 --> 00:19:22,067
the rest of the cost
related to repairing

434
00:19:22,067 --> 00:19:27,377
the street to go all the way
out to the curbs and everything.

435
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And send sanitary sewer is
the lowest because as well.

436
00:19:33,775 --> 00:19:34,906
It makes sense.

437
00:19:34,906 --> 00:19:36,053
It's the least affected.

438
00:19:36,053 --> 00:19:39,114
So you don't want to
overfunded right Yes.

439
00:19:39,114 --> 00:19:41,417
So it makes sense to
me know, but rather

440
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than starting with the
restricted fund amount what

441
00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:47,357
I mean, do we have enough water
fund and street fund money

442
00:19:47,357 --> 00:19:49,097
to do more because
we could reallocate

443
00:19:49,097 --> 00:19:52,997
that that restricted
fund money elsewhere

444
00:19:52,997 --> 00:19:54,078
if we had it available?

445
00:19:54,078 --> 00:19:58,637
Correct So with the
street fund, we really

446
00:19:58,637 --> 00:20:01,127
don't have a lot more in there.

447
00:20:01,127 --> 00:20:04,937
And so we've already
moved as much

448
00:20:04,937 --> 00:20:07,397
as we can into the water fund.

449
00:20:07,397 --> 00:20:10,037
But I also thought the street
fund wouldn't need as much

450
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either because most
of the road tear up

451
00:20:11,897 --> 00:20:13,127
is because of the water fund.

452
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So that could apply
to fixing the streets

453
00:20:17,477 --> 00:20:27,478
I think that can be argued
to the room Sharon, Could I?

454
00:20:27,478 --> 00:20:31,700
I, I have some recollection
of our conversation but Sharon

455
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and administrator Hill.

456
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And I were reviewing the
different financial options

457
00:20:35,417 --> 00:20:39,317
and the water fund balance
is well, it's strong.

458
00:20:39,317 --> 00:20:42,767
The total water main cost
is over $1.1 million.

459
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And if you also included
50% of the street costs

460
00:20:45,887 --> 00:20:47,507
that goes to be
quite a hefty bill.

461
00:20:47,507 --> 00:20:49,738
And I think there are
some concerns there wasn't

462
00:20:49,738 --> 00:20:51,647
a enough money in
that water fund

463
00:20:51,647 --> 00:20:53,657
cash in the water fund to that.

464
00:20:53,657 --> 00:20:55,787
We really didn't want to take
that much money out of the water

465
00:20:55,787 --> 00:20:58,577
fund is what I recall from
our conversation, which

466
00:20:58,577 --> 00:21:00,407
is how this recommendation
came forward.

467
00:21:00,407 --> 00:21:02,567
Sure But we're settling it.

468
00:21:02,567 --> 00:21:05,147
Roughly 25% of the total bill
coming out of water fund.

469
00:21:05,147 --> 00:21:05,717
Yeah.

470
00:21:05,717 --> 00:21:10,667
And is that because of the lack
of cash in the waterfront You

471
00:21:10,667 --> 00:21:18,617
know, that's a good
that was having I

472
00:21:18,617 --> 00:21:21,647
I would say that that
was a good portion

473
00:21:21,647 --> 00:21:23,777
of the reasoning behind that.

474
00:21:23,777 --> 00:21:28,937
And then we had the
money available and yeah,

475
00:21:28,937 --> 00:21:33,047
we could allocate some of that
money to a different project

476
00:21:33,047 --> 00:21:37,253
But trying to keep the funds.

477
00:21:37,253 --> 00:21:41,267
So that they're not we're
not putting them in jeopardy.

478
00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:43,817
And at the same time
and tonight's vote

479
00:21:43,817 --> 00:21:45,947
would not lock that in
its proposed correct

480
00:21:45,947 --> 00:21:49,757
So we can talk about that
further later That is accurate.

481
00:21:49,757 --> 00:21:52,607
Councilmember DeLay,
this is preliminary

482
00:21:52,607 --> 00:21:55,967
This is pre engineering So
once the engineers come back

483
00:21:55,967 --> 00:21:59,297
with their overall assessment
and estimate of the project

484
00:21:59,297 --> 00:22:04,081
got bid, we'd then be able to
reallocate and make changes

485
00:22:04,081 --> 00:22:05,177
if desired.

486
00:22:05,177 --> 00:22:07,097
And we can bring this
to the finance advisory

487
00:22:07,097 --> 00:22:08,417
before we come
back to the council

488
00:22:08,417 --> 00:22:10,877
as well for a little bit more
in-depth conversation on that.

489
00:22:10,877 --> 00:22:13,367
Thank you I was going
to ask going to rely

490
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on your customer meetings.

491
00:22:14,327 --> 00:22:18,917
So your time on the
water commission

492
00:22:18,917 --> 00:22:21,859
I remember there being robust
conversations about this money

493
00:22:21,859 --> 00:22:24,467
and about it be an
earmark towards all town,

494
00:22:24,467 --> 00:22:27,107
you know, area for utilities.

495
00:22:27,107 --> 00:22:29,935
One when they were going
through all these conversations

496
00:22:29,935 --> 00:22:32,093
But I just don't
remember specifics.

497
00:22:32,093 --> 00:22:36,229
Yeah, I don't know what was
included in any resolution

498
00:22:36,229 --> 00:22:38,300
or in that final
sale But yeah, that's

499
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:39,167
my recollection too right?

500
00:22:39,167 --> 00:22:43,037
The restricted funds and part
of the and I say that impetus,

501
00:22:43,037 --> 00:22:45,587
but part of the reason in
going through with that sale

502
00:22:45,587 --> 00:22:48,227
too was be able to earmark
those funds make them

503
00:22:48,227 --> 00:22:51,107
restricted funds for a project
that have been sitting waiting

504
00:22:51,107 --> 00:22:54,827
30 years for funding
doesn't mean that four years

505
00:22:54,827 --> 00:22:57,287
later council can look at
the current state of funding

506
00:22:57,287 --> 00:23:00,557
and determine you know what,
where that money comes out of.

507
00:23:00,557 --> 00:23:02,836
And I'm not opposed to use
and restricted funds, right?

508
00:23:02,836 --> 00:23:03,336
Yeah.

509
00:23:03,336 --> 00:23:06,527
No matter of the amount But I
totally understand where we're

510
00:23:06,527 --> 00:23:08,957
looking at a proposed
project, then it makes

511
00:23:08,957 --> 00:23:12,887
sense to go back to the
direction from four years ago

512
00:23:12,887 --> 00:23:15,797
through the sale and
identify that, you know,

513
00:23:15,797 --> 00:23:19,127
that was at that time where
that money was earmarked for.

514
00:23:19,127 --> 00:23:22,633
If we find another way to help
fund it or balance that out,

515
00:23:22,633 --> 00:23:26,457
let's go forward over
the next year for it

516
00:23:26,457 --> 00:23:27,857
and just try to give
you a bit of feedback

517
00:23:27,857 --> 00:23:29,867
from what I remember
the conversations being

518
00:23:29,867 --> 00:23:30,999
just high level.

519
00:23:30,999 --> 00:23:34,937
Oh, yeah very well aware of what
the restricted funds therefore

520
00:23:34,937 --> 00:23:36,287
and that dollar amount.

521
00:23:36,287 --> 00:23:38,627
But if we don't
need all of that,

522
00:23:38,627 --> 00:23:40,307
we should be prudent
about the dollars

523
00:23:40,307 --> 00:23:43,757
and apply that funds that are
taxpayers are paying for it.

524
00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:46,727
Filling the water fund right
That's in the water bill

525
00:23:46,727 --> 00:23:51,992
So just managing that
appropriately OK.

526
00:23:51,992 --> 00:23:54,167
And the other
questions for Heidi

527
00:23:54,167 --> 00:24:00,287
know, staff So tonight I'm
we're approving their engineer

528
00:24:00,287 --> 00:24:06,604
and proposal to come back
with a final design so Yeah

529
00:24:06,604 --> 00:24:08,589
the project engineer
for a level design.

530
00:24:08,589 --> 00:24:14,177
Yeah so we're requesting a
approval of resolution 360 2026

531
00:24:14,177 --> 00:24:18,557
authorizing the approval of the
project engineering proposal.

532
00:24:18,557 --> 00:24:20,357
Is there anything specific
about the proposal

533
00:24:20,357 --> 00:24:21,914
that you would like?

534
00:24:21,914 --> 00:24:22,547
How do you do that?

535
00:24:22,547 --> 00:24:25,166
But I'll make that motion and
I'll second that in the summer.

536
00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:25,666
OK.

537
00:24:25,666 --> 00:24:27,311
So I do have a
question for Heidi.

538
00:24:27,311 --> 00:24:29,437
I talked to her privately,
but want to bring it up.

539
00:24:29,437 --> 00:24:31,717
So just driving through there
and looking at the streets

540
00:24:31,717 --> 00:24:33,317
where the water lines are
going to get replaced.

541
00:24:33,317 --> 00:24:33,917
And the streets.

542
00:24:33,917 --> 00:24:34,907
I get replaced.

543
00:24:34,907 --> 00:24:38,657
One across streets ninth Avenue.

544
00:24:38,657 --> 00:24:42,257
Notice how poor the asphalt
condition was in looks.

545
00:24:42,257 --> 00:24:44,387
There's some type of a
chip seal put on there.

546
00:24:44,387 --> 00:24:46,607
But even you know, even
half of that's gone.

547
00:24:46,607 --> 00:24:48,257
And there's a lot of
alligator cracking.

548
00:24:48,257 --> 00:24:49,877
And the roads in poor condition.

549
00:24:49,877 --> 00:24:52,768
So i guess my question
is there's other a couple

550
00:24:52,768 --> 00:24:53,390
of across streets.

551
00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:58,937
I see a tenth and 11th Avenue
between Cedar and Elm If we did

552
00:24:58,937 --> 00:25:04,217
not, you know, do ninth as part
of this project how would that

553
00:25:04,217 --> 00:25:09,977
prioritize with the other street
maintenance plan that we have

554
00:25:09,977 --> 00:25:13,427
So I'm assuming that we have
some type of pavement condition

555
00:25:13,427 --> 00:25:17,477
index where everything is ranked
So did we have that ranked

556
00:25:17,477 --> 00:25:20,957
at all somewhere
because it was included

557
00:25:20,957 --> 00:25:22,397
in this project for so long?

558
00:25:22,397 --> 00:25:25,337
We did not have that in
our current portfolio

559
00:25:25,337 --> 00:25:28,127
As we update that, knowing that
these streets are not going

560
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:30,287
to be done starting
in 2027, we can

561
00:25:30,287 --> 00:25:32,714
add that to our pavement
improvement plan.

562
00:25:32,714 --> 00:25:35,312
And have these dedicated
in years, years.

563
00:25:35,312 --> 00:25:37,337
And in the future
years depending

564
00:25:37,337 --> 00:25:40,157
upon how it ranks with the other
ones that we have in our list

565
00:25:40,157 --> 00:25:40,853
right now.

566
00:25:40,853 --> 00:25:43,037
OK Just wanted to
put that out there.

567
00:25:43,037 --> 00:25:45,107
I don't know for the raza
Council looked at it or not,

568
00:25:45,107 --> 00:25:47,867
but the other cross streets
are fairly good shape.

569
00:25:47,867 --> 00:25:50,762
This one just seems
to be not not so good.

570
00:25:50,762 --> 00:25:52,977
And it's going to have to be
replaced sooner than later.

571
00:25:52,977 --> 00:25:53,477
At least.

572
00:25:53,477 --> 00:25:55,977
A mill and overlay
ave looks pretty good.

573
00:25:55,977 --> 00:25:56,477
Still.

574
00:25:56,477 --> 00:25:59,952
I'm just looking at the bookends
of the of the east west streets

575
00:25:59,952 --> 00:26:01,672
when I'm looking
at Cedar and Elms.

576
00:26:01,672 --> 00:26:04,367
But if that's something we
could address and make sure

577
00:26:04,367 --> 00:26:06,587
we put that back onto
the priority plan

578
00:26:06,587 --> 00:26:09,437
for the street
maintenance, that would be

579
00:26:09,437 --> 00:26:12,798
advisable Good catch All right.

580
00:26:12,798 --> 00:26:13,698
We have a first and second.

581
00:26:13,698 --> 00:26:15,687
Any other questions No.

582
00:26:15,687 --> 00:26:16,187
All right.

583
00:26:16,187 --> 00:26:16,687
All in favor.

584
00:26:16,687 --> 00:26:22,727
Signify by saying I, I any
opposed unanimously All right.

585
00:26:22,727 --> 00:26:26,767
Now we'll move on to the 2026
city staff climate survey.

586
00:26:26,767 --> 00:26:36,100
So our HR Specialist Travis
miles want to kick this off

587
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,067
Thank you, mayor and council.

588
00:26:37,067 --> 00:26:42,227
Thank you, Heidi So
we want to establish

589
00:26:42,227 --> 00:26:44,027
a baseline understanding
our employees

590
00:26:44,027 --> 00:26:47,387
experiences, perceptions and
priorities across the city.

591
00:26:47,387 --> 00:26:49,487
To my knowledge, we've never
done a climate survey before

592
00:26:49,487 --> 00:26:52,097
with the city staff
So the survey we did,

593
00:26:52,097 --> 00:26:54,767
we decided to give employees
a confidential and structured

594
00:26:54,767 --> 00:26:56,627
approach to share their
perspectives while providing

595
00:26:56,627 --> 00:26:59,837
leadership with meaningful
information to identify areas

596
00:26:59,837 --> 00:27:02,657
of strength address
organizational challenges

597
00:27:02,657 --> 00:27:04,488
and develop strategies
that support employees,

598
00:27:04,488 --> 00:27:08,087
improve the city's ability to
effectively serve the community

599
00:27:08,087 --> 00:27:11,292
So as workplace climate Survey
was conducted from June Third

600
00:27:11,292 --> 00:27:14,297
through July 3rd, capturing
employees perspectives across

601
00:27:14,297 --> 00:27:16,367
all departments in
leadership levels,

602
00:27:16,367 --> 00:27:19,127
the survey went to all
employees, including full time,

603
00:27:19,127 --> 00:27:23,267
part time and seasonal The
department response rate

604
00:27:23,267 --> 00:27:25,670
averaged between 45 to 100%.

605
00:27:25,670 --> 00:27:29,957
And the overall city
employee response was 63%.

606
00:27:29,957 --> 00:27:32,747
And that included full time,
part time and seasonal employees

607
00:27:32,747 --> 00:27:36,017
as well So overall,
the results they found

608
00:27:36,017 --> 00:27:38,417
reflected a workforce
that's highly committed

609
00:27:38,417 --> 00:27:40,367
to public service,
proud of its work

610
00:27:40,367 --> 00:27:42,107
and strongly
connected to coworkers

611
00:27:42,107 --> 00:27:45,077
and their immediate
supervisors At the same time,

612
00:27:45,077 --> 00:27:47,897
employees identified several
organizational challenges

613
00:27:47,897 --> 00:27:51,391
that may affect morale
efficiency, service delivery,

614
00:27:51,391 --> 00:27:55,727
and the long term workplace
and workforce sustainability

615
00:27:55,727 --> 00:27:58,727
Most consistent city
organizational strengths are

616
00:27:58,727 --> 00:28:02,297
strong teamwork, employee
camaraderie, pride in serving

617
00:28:02,297 --> 00:28:05,627
the community high levels
of personal accomplishment

618
00:28:05,627 --> 00:28:08,777
and positive relationships
with supervisors Commitment

619
00:28:08,777 --> 00:28:11,117
to ethical and
professional service,

620
00:28:11,117 --> 00:28:14,987
strong relationships and
public service motivation

621
00:28:14,987 --> 00:28:16,607
which is great.

622
00:28:16,607 --> 00:28:20,087
The most benefit opportunities
are staffing levels workforce

623
00:28:20,087 --> 00:28:24,899
capacity workload, distribution
employee burnout, community

624
00:28:24,899 --> 00:28:29,687
patient transparency, aging
equipment and facilities

625
00:28:29,687 --> 00:28:33,107
technology Doing better
with creative element

626
00:28:33,107 --> 00:28:37,007
and professional development
and employee recommendation

627
00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:40,457
And while being in alignment
between the operational needs

628
00:28:40,457 --> 00:28:43,247
and available resources
and a greater understanding

629
00:28:43,247 --> 00:28:48,662
for department operations by the
city Council So with a survey.

630
00:28:48,662 --> 00:28:52,277
We found Five strategic
areas we can concentrate on,

631
00:28:52,277 --> 00:28:53,747
and those included.

632
00:28:53,747 --> 00:28:57,647
One was workforce capacity
She was communication,

633
00:28:57,647 --> 00:29:01,629
transparency 3 is
employee investment

634
00:29:01,629 --> 00:29:06,216
or is resource modernization
and five is the city council

635
00:29:06,216 --> 00:29:08,253
engagement So the next steps.

636
00:29:08,253 --> 00:29:10,337
This month, Administrator
Hill and myself

637
00:29:10,337 --> 00:29:12,107
will be meeting with
department heads

638
00:29:12,107 --> 00:29:14,567
to discuss these five
areas and steps we can take

639
00:29:14,567 --> 00:29:18,527
and the different apartments and
throughout the city As stated,

640
00:29:18,527 --> 00:29:20,387
one opportunity identified
through the survey

641
00:29:20,387 --> 00:29:23,597
is strengthening City
Council engagement with staff

642
00:29:23,597 --> 00:29:25,637
and an increase awareness
of all work happenings

643
00:29:25,637 --> 00:29:27,377
across city departments.

644
00:29:27,377 --> 00:29:30,167
I encourage you as City
Council members in their

645
00:29:30,167 --> 00:29:33,107
to invite staff to work sessions
and to meet with departments

646
00:29:33,107 --> 00:29:36,407
to learn more about their roles,
responsibilities and the service

647
00:29:36,407 --> 00:29:39,854
they provide These conversations
can strengthen communication

648
00:29:39,854 --> 00:29:43,697
and build relationships and
provide greater insights

649
00:29:43,697 --> 00:29:47,927
and resources needed to
effectively serve our community

650
00:29:47,927 --> 00:29:52,427
With a conclusion to submit, the
city has a committed workforce

651
00:29:52,427 --> 00:29:55,277
that wants to succeed, but
employees are increasingly

652
00:29:55,277 --> 00:29:56,897
seeking the
organizational capacity

653
00:29:56,897 --> 00:29:59,747
and support necessary
to do their jobs

654
00:29:59,747 --> 00:30:02,297
The greatest strengths
are the teamwork.

655
00:30:02,297 --> 00:30:05,657
The public service commitment,
the employee knowledge

656
00:30:05,657 --> 00:30:08,717
and positive supervisor
relationships.

657
00:30:08,717 --> 00:30:12,407
It provides a strong
foundation for improvement

658
00:30:12,407 --> 00:30:15,287
And once again, based on the
survey the primary challenges is

659
00:30:15,287 --> 00:30:17,927
ensuring that staffing,
workload, communication

660
00:30:17,927 --> 00:30:22,007
and resources, technology
and professional development

661
00:30:22,007 --> 00:30:23,927
and organizational
decisions can keep

662
00:30:23,927 --> 00:30:28,637
pace with operational demands
of a community growth.

663
00:30:28,637 --> 00:30:32,117
Any questions We have
questions for Travis

664
00:30:32,117 --> 00:30:34,494
We've seen the
actual survey we did.

665
00:30:34,494 --> 00:30:42,827
Council has item
Oh, go ahead I guess

666
00:30:42,827 --> 00:30:45,599
I'd be most interested to
follow in the conversation

667
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:49,269
with Department heads and stuff
of what the next steps are.

668
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:54,497
You know been in environments
where surveys happen.

669
00:30:54,497 --> 00:30:56,477
If there isn't follow
up and staff don't see

670
00:30:56,477 --> 00:30:58,097
follow up the surveys No good.

671
00:30:58,097 --> 00:31:00,020
Exactly.

672
00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:03,617
You know I will i want to be
careful friend and a little

673
00:31:03,617 --> 00:31:06,937
disappointed by the
a return rate 63%

674
00:31:06,937 --> 00:31:12,497
and I'm not trying to put that
on anybody besides say you

675
00:31:12,497 --> 00:31:14,341
know again for the next one.

676
00:31:14,341 --> 00:31:18,287
How do we encourage That's how
do we get that feedback back?

677
00:31:18,287 --> 00:31:21,882
Because there's that makes what
would be the plus minus on that

678
00:31:21,882 --> 00:31:26,087
on the results right?

679
00:31:26,087 --> 00:31:28,577
There's those two pieces.

680
00:31:28,577 --> 00:31:31,667
The third one to that
i thought of, you know,

681
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:34,307
I like the idea of
how can council you

682
00:31:34,307 --> 00:31:38,327
know include and try
to bring staff in.

683
00:31:38,327 --> 00:31:43,569
I think that's also a both ways,
right Sometimes it's probably

684
00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:46,487
harder when our meetings
start at 6 to have recognition

685
00:31:46,487 --> 00:31:53,087
And but we do have, you know,
from time to time, whether it's

686
00:31:53,087 --> 00:31:55,277
damp or chief fire
with this force,

687
00:31:55,277 --> 00:31:57,347
with the fire
department coming in

688
00:31:57,347 --> 00:31:59,387
But there's so many other
departments and roles that, you

689
00:31:59,387 --> 00:32:03,857
know, I think it would
be helpful again,

690
00:32:03,857 --> 00:32:06,137
from my perspective of
the public employee,

691
00:32:06,137 --> 00:32:09,017
I like bringing staff in and
talking about the good offs

692
00:32:09,017 --> 00:32:10,457
and the projects that
they just completed

693
00:32:10,457 --> 00:32:13,029
and what they did with the
board, what the council

694
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:14,147
that they're aware of.

695
00:32:14,147 --> 00:32:16,007
Some of those faces
behind the projects

696
00:32:16,007 --> 00:32:19,910
and behind what we sometimes
only see and in our agenda.

697
00:32:19,910 --> 00:32:25,667
So I guess I would just ask that
that is both ways in the future

698
00:32:25,667 --> 00:32:28,487
Not everyone likes to be up in
front of the in front of council

699
00:32:28,487 --> 00:32:30,617
and be recognized to speak.

700
00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:33,797
But we do know or at
least I feel from the past

701
00:32:33,797 --> 00:32:37,787
that sometimes the high
performers and the people

702
00:32:37,787 --> 00:32:39,647
that we identify as high
performers internally

703
00:32:39,647 --> 00:32:42,227
are the ones that want to get
recognized and want to have,

704
00:32:42,227 --> 00:32:45,437
you know, come in and whether
it's getting a picture

705
00:32:45,437 --> 00:32:47,147
or a handshake with council.

706
00:32:47,147 --> 00:32:52,397
So just some things that keep
in mind from the your and what

707
00:32:52,397 --> 00:32:53,387
that council member means.

708
00:32:53,387 --> 00:32:54,137
A couple of things.

709
00:32:54,137 --> 00:32:54,707
We've done deals.

710
00:32:54,707 --> 00:32:56,117
We've done a sort of
a different survey

711
00:32:56,117 --> 00:32:59,297
with the team to see how do they
like praises because you do have

712
00:32:59,297 --> 00:33:01,217
those people that give
me in front of everybody

713
00:33:01,217 --> 00:33:03,617
else and other people are like
just I just want my department

714
00:33:03,617 --> 00:33:06,497
head to certainly tell me, thank
you, great job So I've share

715
00:33:06,497 --> 00:33:08,177
that information with
department heads.

716
00:33:08,177 --> 00:33:10,487
They can make sure they
recognize at the level

717
00:33:10,487 --> 00:33:13,727
that that person prefers
The question to you,

718
00:33:13,727 --> 00:33:15,857
how do we get more
responses And so I

719
00:33:15,857 --> 00:33:17,927
think part of the thing to
you that I saw when I'm doing

720
00:33:17,927 --> 00:33:21,197
the survey and we've talked
about this at our leadership

721
00:33:21,197 --> 00:33:26,507
level to here at City staff, so
currently with our city staff

722
00:33:26,507 --> 00:33:30,287
our time liquor store employees
and firefighters that are not

723
00:33:30,287 --> 00:33:33,767
officers don't currently
have city email addresses

724
00:33:33,767 --> 00:33:35,747
And so to get it out
to those employees

725
00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:38,841
I do use a personal email
address as that we have on file.

726
00:33:38,841 --> 00:33:41,738
Now, we don't know how actively
do they currently check those?

727
00:33:41,738 --> 00:33:44,507
Are they the one those people
that have, you know a thousand

728
00:33:44,507 --> 00:33:48,907
in boxes, right And so as
we're looking at our budget

729
00:33:48,907 --> 00:33:50,507
and what we need for
budget, right, one of those

730
00:33:50,507 --> 00:33:54,377
is being able to like budget to
get everybody an email address,

731
00:33:54,377 --> 00:33:56,777
which does come at an
expense That's something

732
00:33:56,777 --> 00:33:58,787
to think about for the future.

733
00:33:58,787 --> 00:34:00,977
Go Yeah, sure.

734
00:34:00,977 --> 00:34:05,627
So you know, obviously i
come from the private sector,

735
00:34:05,627 --> 00:34:10,427
so I mean, way to get the
great grade point on the 63%

736
00:34:10,427 --> 00:34:13,037
and how you can get
the survey up there.

737
00:34:13,037 --> 00:34:16,397
You know what you can get 100%
on when you have one on one

738
00:34:16,397 --> 00:34:22,097
meetings with your
employees scheduled They can

739
00:34:22,097 --> 00:34:24,347
if it's every two weeks,
once a month, once a quarter.

740
00:34:24,347 --> 00:34:27,287
I've said this a couple
of different times,

741
00:34:27,287 --> 00:34:29,147
but all the points that
you made on the five,

742
00:34:29,147 --> 00:34:32,477
except for the city council
engagement, which i'll add

743
00:34:32,477 --> 00:34:35,747
to it here in a second,
although those can be addressed

744
00:34:35,747 --> 00:34:39,287
in those one on one
meetings or a staff meeting,

745
00:34:39,287 --> 00:34:42,167
I'm not sure why
In some I can tell

746
00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:43,937
me because there
are staff members

747
00:34:43,937 --> 00:34:46,067
or, you know, staff heads.

748
00:34:46,067 --> 00:34:51,197
Do you have them Because
employees obviously either do

749
00:34:51,197 --> 00:34:52,730
want to, you know, a great job.

750
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:55,997
Some might need
a little bit more

751
00:34:55,997 --> 00:35:00,917
mentoring to get up to you know,
the expectations of the roles

752
00:35:00,917 --> 00:35:05,201
and responsibilities
So I just encourage,

753
00:35:05,201 --> 00:35:06,467
encourage encourage that.

754
00:35:06,467 --> 00:35:10,127
Again having these one on
when one on one meeting.

755
00:35:10,127 --> 00:35:12,077
And so you can talk about
personal stuff here.

756
00:35:12,077 --> 00:35:17,357
What do you want to do in the
next five years or one year

757
00:35:17,357 --> 00:35:19,069
And the guy might
point to your job.

758
00:35:19,069 --> 00:35:21,617
Travis Yeah I want your job.

759
00:35:21,617 --> 00:35:25,252
Well, let's get you there You
know, you're hiring your are

760
00:35:25,252 --> 00:35:27,467
hiring your
replacement You know,

761
00:35:27,467 --> 00:35:31,697
as you might may want, you
know, that goes with anyone

762
00:35:31,697 --> 00:35:35,524
So I just really encourage that.

763
00:35:35,524 --> 00:35:39,287
And and the city council
engagement you know,

764
00:35:39,287 --> 00:35:42,797
we are part of the
advisory committees

765
00:35:42,797 --> 00:35:45,017
and maybe that just seems
to be an agenda item.

766
00:35:45,017 --> 00:35:48,505
You know, when we meet monthly,
you know, to talk about it

767
00:35:48,505 --> 00:35:52,220
and talk through some issues
that maybe we can help solve.

768
00:35:52,220 --> 00:35:57,677
But employees have
great ideas too.

769
00:35:57,677 --> 00:36:02,091
You know, that we have to
listen, listening is key is.

770
00:36:02,091 --> 00:36:04,847
So I mean, that's
that's my encouragement.

771
00:36:04,847 --> 00:36:07,097
So I think thanks
for all the staff

772
00:36:07,097 --> 00:36:11,567
that participated in in this
and recognizing their talents.

773
00:36:11,567 --> 00:36:13,967
I don't know what
each of them do.

774
00:36:13,967 --> 00:36:17,597
But you know what the
grass cut the you know,

775
00:36:17,597 --> 00:36:20,327
things are getting done
and the city is running.

776
00:36:20,327 --> 00:36:22,607
So i appreciate,
you know, all you

777
00:36:22,607 --> 00:36:24,917
know, everything
that the staff does

778
00:36:24,917 --> 00:36:26,987
including the employees Thanks.

779
00:36:26,987 --> 00:36:27,707
Thank you.

780
00:36:27,707 --> 00:36:30,197
Yeah, because my library, I know
a lot of our department heads

781
00:36:30,197 --> 00:36:31,847
have been meeting with
your members, too.

782
00:36:31,847 --> 00:36:34,187
I know some members even came
up to me on the survey went out,

783
00:36:34,187 --> 00:36:36,617
and they're like, Is
this really confidential?

784
00:36:36,617 --> 00:36:38,087
How do I know this is competent?

785
00:36:38,087 --> 00:36:38,957
All right.

786
00:36:38,957 --> 00:36:42,017
And so all the reporting i did
was no fewer than four people.

787
00:36:42,017 --> 00:36:44,297
So if you see something on,
there is no fewer than four

788
00:36:44,297 --> 00:36:45,947
people within that group.

789
00:36:45,947 --> 00:36:49,937
And it's a lot of talking
with team members on staff

790
00:36:49,937 --> 00:36:51,227
to reassure them.

791
00:36:51,227 --> 00:36:52,585
So I think the other
thing is there's

792
00:36:52,585 --> 00:36:55,794
two things that's going to make
the number go up next year.

793
00:36:55,794 --> 00:36:58,727
I think A is them believing
that the stuff they shared

794
00:36:58,727 --> 00:37:01,967
was confidential and be
seeing action being taken

795
00:37:01,967 --> 00:37:04,697
and not just I said something,
but nothing ever happened.

796
00:37:04,697 --> 00:37:07,637
So i think those are two things
they'll get the number up.

797
00:37:07,637 --> 00:37:10,127
And we also did get replies
of people being like

798
00:37:10,127 --> 00:37:11,667
very excited that we did this.

799
00:37:11,667 --> 00:37:13,277
And want to do it again
in a year from now

800
00:37:13,277 --> 00:37:14,657
to see how we improve.

801
00:37:14,657 --> 00:37:16,877
Great Okay.

802
00:37:16,877 --> 00:37:18,947
That's all I actually think.

803
00:37:18,947 --> 00:37:20,327
I think as i was
thinking the same thing,

804
00:37:20,327 --> 00:37:23,369
I think if it's true, I
me, this is a great start

805
00:37:23,369 --> 00:37:27,116
because remember, this has
never been done It hasn't to me

806
00:37:27,116 --> 00:37:28,312
is just like a good.

807
00:37:28,312 --> 00:37:29,906
OK, this is how we're looking.

808
00:37:29,906 --> 00:37:31,997
And I think just you know,
and there's definitely

809
00:37:31,997 --> 00:37:34,127
room for improvement I
think if we show results,

810
00:37:34,127 --> 00:37:37,979
as you just include insinuated,
I think you're going

811
00:37:37,979 --> 00:37:39,437
to we'll get the numbers up.

812
00:37:39,437 --> 00:37:43,805
And I like Patrick's a
mr. which was Six 3%.

813
00:37:43,805 --> 00:37:46,292
You explained reason why me.

814
00:37:46,292 --> 00:37:50,665
So I think now if we fall
through show results.

815
00:37:50,665 --> 00:37:54,377
It was back out again, I
think you i think the numbers

816
00:37:54,377 --> 00:37:55,847
will improve definitely.

817
00:37:55,847 --> 00:37:59,147
I know it is a really bad you
know something went sideways

818
00:37:59,147 --> 00:38:02,057
but it should it
should because showing

819
00:38:02,057 --> 00:38:05,674
that we're all interested
in what the employees do.

820
00:38:05,674 --> 00:38:10,187
But Anderson is doing
and you said teamwork.

821
00:38:10,187 --> 00:38:11,357
So build on the teamwork.

822
00:38:11,357 --> 00:38:13,337
And then from that is
just going to go up.

823
00:38:13,337 --> 00:38:15,437
So thank you for putting
this all together.

824
00:38:15,437 --> 00:38:17,453
You're welcome.

825
00:38:17,453 --> 00:38:19,637
I i'll jump on it.

826
00:38:19,637 --> 00:38:22,457
Councilmember I bangor's comment
about city council engagement.

827
00:38:22,457 --> 00:38:26,057
I would like to understand
what employees are looking for.

828
00:38:26,057 --> 00:38:28,277
I think it would help us.

829
00:38:28,277 --> 00:38:31,067
I will say to sometimes I know a
lot of them watch the meetings.

830
00:38:31,067 --> 00:38:32,807
And so sometimes they
can be kind of blunt,

831
00:38:32,807 --> 00:38:34,647
right I want the budget.

832
00:38:34,647 --> 00:38:35,147
Good.

833
00:38:35,147 --> 00:38:36,257
Good luck on that price tag.

834
00:38:36,257 --> 00:38:36,757
Right.

835
00:38:36,757 --> 00:38:39,587
Maybe we need to be better
with how we frame things.

836
00:38:39,587 --> 00:38:43,037
I maybe that's looked at like
we're not supporting them

837
00:38:43,037 --> 00:38:44,807
and hopefully and
this is where I'm

838
00:38:44,807 --> 00:38:47,717
going to rely on our
city administrator

839
00:38:47,717 --> 00:38:49,857
We need to have that
communication funneled to.

840
00:38:49,857 --> 00:38:50,357
Right.

841
00:38:50,357 --> 00:38:52,997
And we're kind of trying
to find that balance

842
00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:55,247
with the values
and the standards

843
00:38:55,247 --> 00:38:56,897
we have in this community.

844
00:38:56,897 --> 00:38:58,787
And what we can afford
through taxpayer

845
00:38:58,787 --> 00:39:00,097
the taxpayer system, right?

846
00:39:00,097 --> 00:39:02,185
So it doesn't mean we
don't support the employers

847
00:39:02,185 --> 00:39:05,987
or we don't want to create
a capacity or equipment,

848
00:39:05,987 --> 00:39:07,247
but there's just
a balancing act.

849
00:39:07,247 --> 00:39:09,497
It's hard and i think we can
do a better job sometimes

850
00:39:09,497 --> 00:39:11,987
to maybe not being
so blunt on staff

851
00:39:11,987 --> 00:39:14,687
and trying to find a
better way to frame it.

852
00:39:14,687 --> 00:39:17,177
So they maybe employees
understand kind of the battle

853
00:39:17,177 --> 00:39:19,217
that we're up against as well.

854
00:39:19,217 --> 00:39:21,227
I think we'd love
to give you know,

855
00:39:21,227 --> 00:39:24,107
staff everything that they want
that they want this year, right.

856
00:39:24,107 --> 00:39:25,397
And next five years.

857
00:39:25,397 --> 00:39:28,127
But we just you know, you
look at your home budget, too.

858
00:39:28,127 --> 00:39:30,287
You can't afford
everything all at one time.

859
00:39:30,287 --> 00:39:31,397
But how do we get there?

860
00:39:31,397 --> 00:39:32,297
How can we get to it?

861
00:39:32,297 --> 00:39:36,077
Yes And maybe we can
present that as a better

862
00:39:36,077 --> 00:39:37,607
image from the council.

863
00:39:37,607 --> 00:39:39,739
We don't want to tell, you
know how can we get to.

864
00:39:39,739 --> 00:39:41,957
Yes, you may not be
the way that you think,

865
00:39:41,957 --> 00:39:43,847
but let's keep talking about it.

866
00:39:43,847 --> 00:39:47,050
So I guess that's my feedback
on the City Council engagement

867
00:39:47,050 --> 00:39:47,702
Thank you.

868
00:39:47,702 --> 00:39:49,817
I'd love to see
more engagement too.

869
00:39:49,817 --> 00:39:53,507
I do know that through a couple
rounds, different organizations

870
00:39:53,507 --> 00:39:55,277
I've been through
sometimes as well.

871
00:39:55,277 --> 00:39:56,510
What is it going to matter?

872
00:39:56,510 --> 00:39:58,090
Why should I waste
my time taking this?

873
00:39:58,090 --> 00:40:00,167
That could be a
mindset too, that we

874
00:40:00,167 --> 00:40:03,146
need to change because if we
don't show some improvement.

875
00:40:03,146 --> 00:40:05,477
And some reaction, you're
going to get that response

876
00:40:05,477 --> 00:40:07,823
next year to anything.

877
00:40:07,823 --> 00:40:08,813
And you add on to that.

878
00:40:08,813 --> 00:40:09,646
Maybe, if you don't mind.

879
00:40:09,646 --> 00:40:13,037
I think the big thing to you,
I think in years past a while,

880
00:40:13,037 --> 00:40:17,248
though, there is kind of a work
session on an off day where

881
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:19,787
the council and the city
members or department heads

882
00:40:19,787 --> 00:40:22,250
can meet to really describe what
their differences because they

883
00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:23,117
don't want I set up there.

884
00:40:23,117 --> 00:40:25,247
I can't tell you the difference
between the building inspector

885
00:40:25,247 --> 00:40:26,117
and the building official.

886
00:40:26,117 --> 00:40:26,617
Right.

887
00:40:26,617 --> 00:40:27,797
What do you do Right.

888
00:40:27,797 --> 00:40:30,167
But having that time to really
find out exactly what you do

889
00:40:30,167 --> 00:40:31,457
and where does
that position mean?

890
00:40:31,457 --> 00:40:34,607
And I think, getting
to know the team

891
00:40:34,607 --> 00:40:35,893
before I actually got on staff.

892
00:40:35,893 --> 00:40:38,366
I didn't realize, you know our
normal schedules 8 to 4:30,

893
00:40:38,366 --> 00:40:40,354
I didn't know there's people
coming out Seven saying that

894
00:40:40,354 --> 00:40:43,487
6:30 to get the stuff done that
needs to get done you know,

895
00:40:43,487 --> 00:40:44,894
and the city staff.

896
00:40:44,894 --> 00:40:47,024
I think does a really good
job at looking at what

897
00:40:47,024 --> 00:40:49,367
our needs are, realizing
what the budget needs are

898
00:40:49,367 --> 00:40:51,611
and asking for what we need
based on what's going on.

899
00:40:51,611 --> 00:40:52,778
I think having
those conversations.

900
00:40:52,778 --> 00:40:54,647
I think is going to
open up more dialogue

901
00:40:54,647 --> 00:40:56,691
between staff and city council.

902
00:40:56,691 --> 00:40:58,158
So I'm looking forward
to you at the Springs

903
00:40:58,158 --> 00:41:04,997
and looking at okay so you
know, when Ja'Ceon was here, he

904
00:41:04,997 --> 00:41:07,697
he did an event with
employees and then talked

905
00:41:07,697 --> 00:41:10,226
about doing some
type of a camaraderie

906
00:41:10,226 --> 00:41:12,527
that between staff and council.

907
00:41:12,527 --> 00:41:15,317
So that might be
an idea as well.

908
00:41:15,317 --> 00:41:16,337
It was sort of tug of war.

909
00:41:16,337 --> 00:41:23,484
So they can just be the five
of us Yeah But you know,

910
00:41:23,484 --> 00:41:25,279
things like that when
you get to know people

911
00:41:25,279 --> 00:41:27,407
on a different level, you
know, you learn always

912
00:41:27,407 --> 00:41:29,437
a hobby All of sudden, it
changes your perception

913
00:41:29,437 --> 00:41:30,137
about somebody right?

914
00:41:30,137 --> 00:41:31,370
Or maybe you went
through something.

915
00:41:31,370 --> 00:41:32,597
They went through.

916
00:41:32,597 --> 00:41:35,267
So I would encourage
maybe to look

917
00:41:35,267 --> 00:41:38,147
at that as some type of a way
that we can maybe strengthen

918
00:41:38,147 --> 00:41:40,967
the communication in the
relationship between council

919
00:41:40,967 --> 00:41:43,127
engagement and city employees.

920
00:41:43,127 --> 00:41:46,817
You know American and let
you know and some of this

921
00:41:46,817 --> 00:41:47,531
may be frequency.

922
00:41:47,531 --> 00:41:49,034
And we all like
to do it annually

923
00:41:49,034 --> 00:41:50,927
just because it fits the
calendar and all that stuff.

924
00:41:50,927 --> 00:41:53,777
But there's a lot of these
things are bigger items, right?

925
00:41:53,777 --> 00:41:55,037
It's not going get
solved in a month.

926
00:41:55,037 --> 00:41:56,954
not going to get
solved in six months.

927
00:41:56,954 --> 00:41:58,427
And so asking every
year, they may not

928
00:41:58,427 --> 00:42:00,287
feel or see the amount
of change that they're

929
00:42:00,287 --> 00:42:01,847
expecting in that timeframe.

930
00:42:01,847 --> 00:42:03,827
So don't necessarily
do it every year.

931
00:42:03,827 --> 00:42:05,117
So we can actually
have some time

932
00:42:05,117 --> 00:42:07,217
to implement some of the
changes we're looking for.

933
00:42:07,217 --> 00:42:07,937
Yeah.

934
00:42:07,937 --> 00:42:10,664
Okay Yeah.

935
00:42:10,664 --> 00:42:11,358
Any questions?

936
00:42:11,358 --> 00:42:16,607
Are feedback from
the staff here?

937
00:42:16,607 --> 00:42:19,579
Would you guys i mean have
like go to the month Right.

938
00:42:19,579 --> 00:42:22,847
So nominate an
employee, Correct.

939
00:42:22,847 --> 00:42:24,641
How did, how do
they get recognized?

940
00:42:24,641 --> 00:42:31,847
Is that in front of or you know
just through department or Sure.

941
00:42:31,847 --> 00:42:33,797
Other thank you for
bringing that up.

942
00:42:33,797 --> 00:42:35,002
Council member or.

943
00:42:35,002 --> 00:42:39,017
Yes, we do have a
gold award, a an award

944
00:42:39,017 --> 00:42:41,147
that you found with
that little group.

945
00:42:41,147 --> 00:42:42,407
You guys, it's
it's a great award.

946
00:42:42,407 --> 00:42:48,467
Yeah And what it is, it's an
interdepartmental award that

947
00:42:48,467 --> 00:42:50,927
is monthly transferred
from one person

948
00:42:50,927 --> 00:42:54,217
to the next outside
of your department

949
00:42:54,217 --> 00:42:55,593
The first one that received.

950
00:42:55,593 --> 00:42:59,927
It was Mr. Sandra or down
the way here that went to me

951
00:42:59,927 --> 00:43:01,997
And I'm drug.

952
00:43:01,997 --> 00:43:02,987
John McFarlane.

953
00:43:02,987 --> 00:43:05,567
McFarlane and the water
department from Hemet

954
00:43:05,567 --> 00:43:09,257
went to Sergeant SAP with his
years of service and his service

955
00:43:09,257 --> 00:43:13,250
to the community
and now Rachelle

956
00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:14,747
bell just got it the last time.

957
00:43:14,747 --> 00:43:16,248
So it's it's floating around.

958
00:43:16,248 --> 00:43:18,857
It gives an opportunity
for somebody

959
00:43:18,857 --> 00:43:20,867
within a department
to look around

960
00:43:20,867 --> 00:43:23,597
at the rest of the
departments and

961
00:43:23,597 --> 00:43:26,147
who they see in putting
in the hard work

962
00:43:26,147 --> 00:43:28,217
and who they appreciate and why.

963
00:43:28,217 --> 00:43:31,149
And so we do a little blurb
on why they're getting it.

964
00:43:31,149 --> 00:43:33,797
And we send it out to all
staff along with the picture

965
00:43:33,797 --> 00:43:36,047
and the floating
trophy continues

966
00:43:36,047 --> 00:43:39,291
to move around our
departments and our staff.

967
00:43:39,291 --> 00:43:41,117
And it's been
received quite well.

968
00:43:41,117 --> 00:43:43,937
The first one was at
our spring barbecue

969
00:43:43,937 --> 00:43:48,317
here at City Hall and we're
continuing with that tradition

970
00:43:48,317 --> 00:43:52,787
that we're building.
anything else from council?

971
00:43:52,787 --> 00:43:54,107
No, no no.

972
00:43:54,107 --> 00:43:54,707
There.

973
00:43:54,707 --> 00:43:55,007
All right.

974
00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:55,967
Thank you Thank everybody.

975
00:43:55,967 --> 00:43:59,147
Appreciate it, Travis,
Thank you All right.

976
00:43:59,147 --> 00:44:00,587
Move on to the next one here.

977
00:44:00,587 --> 00:44:03,077
And that is to consider approval
of a resolution adopting

978
00:44:03,077 --> 00:44:05,807
the 2027 preliminary
levy and budget

979
00:44:05,807 --> 00:44:07,547
for the city of North Branch.

980
00:44:07,547 --> 00:44:10,067
So our finance director, Sharon,
let's get the tiger open.

981
00:44:10,067 --> 00:44:13,487
Let's get started Thank
you, Mayor and council

982
00:44:13,487 --> 00:44:20,417
are so kind of playing off
of travis's information

983
00:44:20,417 --> 00:44:25,979
and i did meet with
Councilmember and council member

984
00:44:25,979 --> 00:44:32,061
Meachum and the mayor, Schreiber
and we discussed some things.

985
00:44:32,061 --> 00:44:35,055
And one of the things
that I brought up to you

986
00:44:35,055 --> 00:44:42,377
is the concept of looking
into more of a performance

987
00:44:42,377 --> 00:44:47,717
or priority based budget,
which i think if we were

988
00:44:47,717 --> 00:44:53,972
to do something like that with
the goal of a 10 or 20 year

989
00:44:53,972 --> 00:44:56,807
layout so that we
know what's going on

990
00:44:56,807 --> 00:45:00,857
and what how to build
this budget every year

991
00:45:00,857 --> 00:45:06,377
based off of
priorities instead of

992
00:45:06,377 --> 00:45:08,807
off of the prior year's budget.

993
00:45:08,807 --> 00:45:12,557
I think it would have
a much more meaningful

994
00:45:12,557 --> 00:45:14,029
effect for everybody.

995
00:45:14,029 --> 00:45:19,427
So it's something that I
want to delve into deeper

996
00:45:19,427 --> 00:45:22,697
and be able to
bring that forward

997
00:45:22,697 --> 00:45:26,567
And that is something I hope
to do sooner rather than later.

998
00:45:26,567 --> 00:45:31,127
I don't plan on waiting for the
next budget to get that going.

999
00:45:31,127 --> 00:45:36,917
So I've been doing some research
already into some of the things

1000
00:45:36,917 --> 00:45:40,714
on the GFR ways website.

1001
00:45:40,714 --> 00:45:44,357
That's government finance
officers, organization.

1002
00:45:44,357 --> 00:45:48,167
So they have a lot of
materials out there

1003
00:45:48,167 --> 00:45:50,747
to help with stuff like that.

1004
00:45:50,747 --> 00:45:58,367
So I hope to be able to bring
that forward maybe by the first

1005
00:45:58,367 --> 00:46:03,677
of the year to try to start
incorporating that and thinking

1006
00:46:03,677 --> 00:46:08,537
about whether we want to go with
a priority based or performance

1007
00:46:08,537 --> 00:46:13,127
based And if whichever
one we choose how would

1008
00:46:13,127 --> 00:46:18,107
we get that laid out with
our goals and objectives

1009
00:46:18,107 --> 00:46:24,977
and to get that on track
for the future So and so

1010
00:46:24,977 --> 00:46:30,297
with having said that
two weeks ago, you

1011
00:46:30,297 --> 00:46:43,607
had a request for a a 9% an idea
of what 9% is in the packet.

1012
00:46:43,607 --> 00:46:55,787
I have It's actually 11.35 at
the general fund and debt level

1013
00:46:55,787 --> 00:47:03,257
If we take the 23,000 and
139,000 out of the one column

1014
00:47:03,257 --> 00:47:09,524
that with the debt takes us to
a 9%, are you talking position,

1015
00:47:09,524 --> 00:47:12,717
Sharon, could you just clarify
that when you say the 39,000.

1016
00:47:12,717 --> 00:47:26,057
So Tanya, if you go to the model
library so the in that middle,

1017
00:47:26,057 --> 00:47:33,557
that's circled with the dotted
lines you see at the top there

1018
00:47:33,557 --> 00:47:41,507
is the 23,000 is part of the
parks manager wage But I think

1019
00:47:41,507 --> 00:47:46,307
we found some savings
in my discussions

1020
00:47:46,307 --> 00:47:50,117
with Patrick Meacham last week.

1021
00:47:50,117 --> 00:47:55,817
He mentioned with
pulling some of the work

1022
00:47:55,817 --> 00:47:58,277
away from some of
the parks work,

1023
00:47:58,277 --> 00:48:02,267
away from our community
development staff,

1024
00:48:02,267 --> 00:48:05,327
that maybe we could
reallocate some of that wage

1025
00:48:05,327 --> 00:48:10,787
to the Economic
Development Authority

1026
00:48:10,787 --> 00:48:18,347
and that's not to say
we're moving that there

1027
00:48:18,347 --> 00:48:20,016
just to get it moved there.

1028
00:48:20,016 --> 00:48:24,497
It would be that they would be
working more hours on the EDA

1029
00:48:24,497 --> 00:48:28,457
and therefore allowing us
to move some of our wage,

1030
00:48:28,457 --> 00:48:34,547
and I think that at 23,000
I did some calculations

1031
00:48:34,547 --> 00:48:43,247
and even if we move 10%
of their wages over,

1032
00:48:43,247 --> 00:48:46,547
it comes the 30,000 or so.

1033
00:48:46,547 --> 00:48:51,167
And I'm not saying we would have
10% to both of them I'm just

1034
00:48:51,167 --> 00:48:57,587
saying that's a reference point
So I think that if we can move

1035
00:48:57,587 --> 00:49:01,637
some of their response abilities
to the economic development

1036
00:49:01,637 --> 00:49:05,897
or DDA that that
would allow them

1037
00:49:05,897 --> 00:49:11,177
to be more focused on those
items that need the work.

1038
00:49:11,177 --> 00:49:17,657
And yet we be able to afford
that parks manager position

1039
00:49:17,657 --> 00:49:19,997
And the for us.

1040
00:49:19,997 --> 00:49:20,867
Can I jump in?

1041
00:49:20,867 --> 00:49:22,065
Yes Yeah.

1042
00:49:22,065 --> 00:49:23,601
Just since you brought it up.

1043
00:49:23,601 --> 00:49:25,877
And we haven't had this
conversation with the EDA,

1044
00:49:25,877 --> 00:49:31,037
I'm a member of and like Sharon
was saying, I was looking

1045
00:49:31,037 --> 00:49:33,677
at those numbers, I go,
Well, if need to and just

1046
00:49:33,677 --> 00:49:37,577
using that in Ryan's time,
if their time is freed up

1047
00:49:37,577 --> 00:49:39,917
about these exciting
opportunities, the momentum

1048
00:49:39,917 --> 00:49:44,958
that the idea has would it
make sense for as you go back,

1049
00:49:44,958 --> 00:49:47,177
talk to me and see
what they thought?

1050
00:49:47,177 --> 00:49:49,487
Does it make sense that they
would be able to allocate more

1051
00:49:49,487 --> 00:49:52,067
time to the EDA and
then in essence,

1052
00:49:52,067 --> 00:49:57,587
be able to allocate more
of salary from that fund

1053
00:49:57,587 --> 00:50:01,547
twice to them, which
to me, you know again,

1054
00:50:01,547 --> 00:50:04,697
at the county level is trying
to make sure that whatever

1055
00:50:04,697 --> 00:50:08,087
part my salary is split up in
three different departments

1056
00:50:08,087 --> 00:50:10,427
based on who is coming.

1057
00:50:10,427 --> 00:50:13,427
So i just asked you to
look into Well, then

1058
00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:17,267
also with that past
manager position

1059
00:50:17,267 --> 00:50:20,957
if we're saving money through
WSP by not using the using them

1060
00:50:20,957 --> 00:50:23,957
for gas services have we
calculated that in yet

1061
00:50:23,957 --> 00:50:26,215
or is that still kind
of floating out there?

1062
00:50:26,215 --> 00:50:27,570
That's out there as well.

1063
00:50:27,570 --> 00:50:35,117
We were discussing that and i
think there is this action that

1064
00:50:35,117 --> 00:50:37,397
needs to occur
that determine how

1065
00:50:37,397 --> 00:50:42,887
much of that we currently have
in the budget about 40,000.

1066
00:50:42,887 --> 00:50:50,042
And for each year And how
much of that could we take ?

1067
00:50:50,042 --> 00:50:55,307
we would probably still need
some gas service from WSP

1068
00:50:55,307 --> 00:50:58,217
and so we would need
to make a determination

1069
00:50:58,217 --> 00:51:01,757
of how much of that we
would still have to have.

1070
00:51:01,757 --> 00:51:05,740
But there i would think there
would be some savings there so

1071
00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:07,962
that we could
utilize some of that

1072
00:51:07,962 --> 00:51:13,078
as well OK That question
is not a question.

1073
00:51:13,078 --> 00:51:15,257
There's just a lot This
is the preliminary, right?

1074
00:51:15,257 --> 00:51:17,784
So there'll be a lot of
puts and takes between now

1075
00:51:17,784 --> 00:51:18,558
and the final budget.

1076
00:51:18,558 --> 00:51:20,687
I mean, like parks
manager position,

1077
00:51:20,687 --> 00:51:23,417
you can change that amount
based on a higher rate, right?

1078
00:51:23,417 --> 00:51:28,148
So those details albeit
important come December think

1079
00:51:28,148 --> 00:51:30,148
it's more about, what
do we want to cap

1080
00:51:30,148 --> 00:51:34,457
this preliminary number at
Are we okay with the 11.3 now?

1081
00:51:34,457 --> 00:51:35,627
So it this yeah.

1082
00:51:35,627 --> 00:51:39,257
On this form it's 11.35.

1083
00:51:39,257 --> 00:51:45,677
But if we take out from
if we take the amounts out

1084
00:51:45,677 --> 00:51:51,890
of that staffing column
that drops it to 9%

1085
00:51:51,890 --> 00:51:55,420
and it says 814
down at the bottom,

1086
00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:57,707
because the debt
does not end there.

1087
00:51:57,707 --> 00:52:03,737
Yeah But if you add in the
debt, that brings you up to a 9%

1088
00:52:03,737 --> 00:52:06,527
levy increase for the levy.

1089
00:52:06,527 --> 00:52:22,247
So having part of those and i
took the privilege I guess just

1090
00:52:22,247 --> 00:52:26,957
to give a marker what I put
in this prior already is not

1091
00:52:26,957 --> 00:52:30,947
necessarily the way that it'll
fall out but I wanted to give

1092
00:52:30,947 --> 00:52:36,017
some measure for you guys to be
able to see how much we could

1093
00:52:36,017 --> 00:52:44,176
afford with the the 9% you had
talked about So we would have

1094
00:52:44,176 --> 00:52:48,197
a 100,000 for the
equipment and then

1095
00:52:48,197 --> 00:52:51,437
we would have the 108,000 for.

1096
00:52:51,437 --> 00:52:57,527
So yeah, so 93,000
for the parks manager.

1097
00:52:57,527 --> 00:53:02,957
And that 86,000 when we talked
about the health insurance

1098
00:53:02,957 --> 00:53:09,377
premiums the 118,000, we
discussed was for citywide Yeah,

1099
00:53:09,377 --> 00:53:13,187
not all of that will come
out of the levy dollars.

1100
00:53:13,187 --> 00:53:18,437
So I calculated how much
was and that's that $86,000.

1101
00:53:18,437 --> 00:53:25,022
So that is what that would bring
our insurance to a 15% increase.

1102
00:53:25,022 --> 00:53:29,837
OK And so all of that
would come out at 9%.

1103
00:53:29,837 --> 00:53:31,997
And when do we think
we'll have the insurance

1104
00:53:31,997 --> 00:53:36,347
premiums and a more locked
in They're telling us

1105
00:53:36,347 --> 00:53:39,137
October is when they'll
have their perfect.

1106
00:53:39,137 --> 00:53:39,850
Yes.

1107
00:53:39,850 --> 00:53:41,957
Yeah Can I ask a
question on that?

1108
00:53:41,957 --> 00:53:43,497
Because that was
one of my notes.

1109
00:53:43,497 --> 00:53:43,997
Go ahead.

1110
00:53:43,997 --> 00:53:45,107
Is that okay?

1111
00:53:45,107 --> 00:53:46,397
All right.

1112
00:53:46,397 --> 00:53:51,477
So whose was responsible
to the Four representatives

1113
00:53:51,477 --> 00:53:54,617
for the health care Your.

1114
00:53:54,617 --> 00:53:57,439
Okay And when does one are
those conversations happen?

1115
00:53:57,439 --> 00:53:58,701
Oh, they're happening right now.

1116
00:53:58,701 --> 00:53:59,201
OK.

1117
00:53:59,201 --> 00:54:01,007
I just talked to them
on the phone today

1118
00:54:01,007 --> 00:54:03,417
again to see if I could get
any idea of any kind of number

1119
00:54:03,417 --> 00:54:03,917
out there.

1120
00:54:03,917 --> 00:54:06,810
And they said, no, our we
won't have numbers into October

1121
00:54:06,810 --> 00:54:09,587
and then the rates go
up in March once year.

1122
00:54:09,587 --> 00:54:13,097
So even who do we use today?

1123
00:54:13,097 --> 00:54:16,742
So we go through the 49
or health and trust OK.

1124
00:54:16,742 --> 00:54:22,547
Yeah And so right now to the
way we have our contracts set up

1125
00:54:22,547 --> 00:54:24,947
with our different
bargaining agreements

1126
00:54:24,947 --> 00:54:28,307
as our set up with a fee
that is based on that amount.

1127
00:54:28,307 --> 00:54:29,837
So that's why we're
looking at probably

1128
00:54:29,837 --> 00:54:31,697
maintaining them
through any have to be

1129
00:54:31,697 --> 00:54:33,407
locked in with those guys.

1130
00:54:33,407 --> 00:54:34,705
You don't have to be locked in.

1131
00:54:34,705 --> 00:54:37,222
But right now we're seeing
the best rates from them.

1132
00:54:37,222 --> 00:54:38,923
OK And you've tried.

1133
00:54:38,923 --> 00:54:41,136
I mean, you're going
to others as well.

1134
00:54:41,136 --> 00:54:44,337
It's kind of like an open
book, the bid process.

1135
00:54:44,337 --> 00:54:44,837
Yeah.

1136
00:54:44,837 --> 00:54:48,077
Our big one will be
you know, next year.

1137
00:54:48,077 --> 00:54:51,467
Right So we're looking to
see what what's out there.

1138
00:54:51,467 --> 00:54:53,507
So just for the
best for the city

1139
00:54:53,507 --> 00:54:55,480
and the best for the
city and the employees.

1140
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:55,980
Yeah.

1141
00:54:55,980 --> 00:54:57,298
I mean, then I'll say that.

1142
00:54:57,298 --> 00:54:58,875
So because we start,
you know, our,

1143
00:54:58,875 --> 00:55:01,585
our negotiate is early on to.

1144
00:55:01,585 --> 00:55:03,897
And you know, we're
small potatoes you know.

1145
00:55:03,897 --> 00:55:04,397
Yeah.

1146
00:55:04,397 --> 00:55:05,027
Obviously.

1147
00:55:05,027 --> 00:55:08,657
So the other, the
other caveat into that

1148
00:55:08,657 --> 00:55:10,559
too is because right now.

1149
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:15,497
So prior to 2026 we
had high deductibles

1150
00:55:15,497 --> 00:55:20,471
that also had obligations to
contributed to the HSA or Veba

1151
00:55:20,471 --> 00:55:25,487
accounts And so our
negotiation with the unions

1152
00:55:25,487 --> 00:55:29,309
was to switch to what we
currently have and so if we're

1153
00:55:29,309 --> 00:55:32,087
trying to try and switch
that insurance for next year,

1154
00:55:32,087 --> 00:55:34,787
we might have to try and
renegotiate with our unions

1155
00:55:34,787 --> 00:55:36,797
based on our current
contract So that's

1156
00:55:36,797 --> 00:55:38,777
why I would probably
be, you know,

1157
00:55:38,777 --> 00:55:42,227
not a significant
change going into 2027.

1158
00:55:42,227 --> 00:55:45,137
I definitely looking
at those in 2028.

1159
00:55:45,137 --> 00:55:47,847
So yeah, I mean, because
people are hearing it was,

1160
00:55:47,847 --> 00:55:51,827
what are we say 12 to 20, I'm
sorry, or age of money it's 12.

1161
00:55:51,827 --> 00:55:54,484
We came up with that
number, then, you know,

1162
00:55:54,484 --> 00:55:56,921
I think that was your initial
feedback from insurance.

1163
00:55:56,921 --> 00:55:58,802
And I think you've got
a new number since then.

1164
00:55:58,802 --> 00:55:59,732
That was a while ago.

1165
00:55:59,732 --> 00:56:04,607
I think 12 12 to 20 was the
range that Sharon had given us.

1166
00:56:04,607 --> 00:56:07,457
So when I was just doing
some simple research today,

1167
00:56:07,457 --> 00:56:10,967
what I was saying is that
across the entire country,

1168
00:56:10,967 --> 00:56:13,637
the Affordable Care Act
accounts you're looking

1169
00:56:13,637 --> 00:56:15,808
at maybe a 15% increase.

1170
00:56:15,808 --> 00:56:19,097
That's across entire
us. the difference

1171
00:56:19,097 --> 00:56:21,587
is you have different kinds
of plans around what's

1172
00:56:21,587 --> 00:56:23,477
called a self funded plan.

1173
00:56:23,477 --> 00:56:25,967
Now, the self funded plan,
which I'm seeing out there,

1174
00:56:25,967 --> 00:56:28,168
random me for some
simple numbers.

1175
00:56:28,168 --> 00:56:32,486
I can't put scientific data to
it as they're seeing 8 to 12%.

1176
00:56:32,486 --> 00:56:34,976
But that's just a quick search.

1177
00:56:34,976 --> 00:56:36,617
No guarantees on that.

1178
00:56:36,617 --> 00:56:38,994
But we are so find out which
is different starting over.

1179
00:56:38,994 --> 00:56:40,031
Yeah, right.

1180
00:56:40,031 --> 00:56:42,467
So I mean, that's
really the whole point

1181
00:56:42,467 --> 00:56:46,307
is to try to get to a good
starting number And then what?

1182
00:56:46,307 --> 00:56:50,627
Because we so this year was the
first year our employees were

1183
00:56:50,627 --> 00:56:52,817
on that 49 and
health care and trust

1184
00:56:52,817 --> 00:56:56,027
prior to this year our
public works employees were

1185
00:56:56,027 --> 00:56:58,667
on that program So
Sharon, I did some looking

1186
00:56:58,667 --> 00:57:01,037
to see what those rates have
been in past years and kind

1187
00:57:01,037 --> 00:57:02,297
of what increases those were.

1188
00:57:02,297 --> 00:57:04,727
So we are seeing around that
80% number, if I remember

1189
00:57:04,727 --> 00:57:07,097
right So we're looking
at that kind of trend

1190
00:57:07,097 --> 00:57:08,987
and then just kind
of bump it up as you

1191
00:57:08,987 --> 00:57:13,467
see some of the trends for other
businesses, I guess, right?

1192
00:57:13,467 --> 00:57:13,967
Correct.

1193
00:57:13,967 --> 00:57:15,857
Your cities Yeah.

1194
00:57:15,857 --> 00:57:18,527
And then like I said they'll
give us the higher number

1195
00:57:18,527 --> 00:57:20,177
in a couple of months here.

1196
00:57:20,177 --> 00:57:21,737
I think in the
budget a little bit

1197
00:57:21,737 --> 00:57:23,097
higher Right on the higher end.

1198
00:57:23,097 --> 00:57:23,597
Yeah.

1199
00:57:23,597 --> 00:57:24,454
Don't get me wrong.

1200
00:57:24,454 --> 00:57:25,471
Now always come down.

1201
00:57:25,471 --> 00:57:27,917
Yeah, we wonder why that's
I was just curious on how

1202
00:57:27,917 --> 00:57:31,997
the negotiations are because
obviously that you I can see it

1203
00:57:31,997 --> 00:57:36,047
into quite a bit of our
preliminary budget talks I mean,

1204
00:57:36,047 --> 00:57:38,717
I'm not going to get on
a diatribe on how long

1205
00:57:38,717 --> 00:57:42,737
this whole process
takes because Yeah

1206
00:57:42,737 --> 00:57:49,967
that's another other Senate
that's I'm just kidding.

1207
00:57:49,967 --> 00:57:52,577
But but no, it's just
it's a big number.

1208
00:57:52,577 --> 00:57:55,739
And I just want to make sure
just like you just said,

1209
00:57:55,739 --> 00:57:57,808
I mean, just making
sure that we're

1210
00:57:57,808 --> 00:58:00,977
getting that kind of that number
that we feel it's going to end

1211
00:58:00,977 --> 00:58:03,917
up being in October So you
can make some like, you know,

1212
00:58:03,917 --> 00:58:09,900
some good sound decisions
as we to tonight

1213
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,547
So you know for the council
I've got questions on the three

1214
00:58:13,547 --> 00:58:15,974
positions we've gotten
position description and kind

1215
00:58:15,974 --> 00:58:17,281
of the impact and stuff.

1216
00:58:17,281 --> 00:58:19,505
And the initial
feedback on that I mean,

1217
00:58:19,505 --> 00:58:21,505
we have a couple of months to
go through to work through it.

1218
00:58:21,505 --> 00:58:25,069
So I just I printed them out.

1219
00:58:25,069 --> 00:58:26,664
And I hope I'll read
through them tonight.

1220
00:58:26,664 --> 00:58:27,164
Okay.

1221
00:58:27,164 --> 00:58:29,207
So I mean, I
understand the request.

1222
00:58:29,207 --> 00:58:29,777
Yeah.

1223
00:58:29,777 --> 00:58:33,287
Matter of can we all want
to like you said earlier,

1224
00:58:33,287 --> 00:58:38,897
but we have to make compromises
and this feeds into our goals.

1225
00:58:38,897 --> 00:58:41,387
You know, that we're going
to be talking about as well

1226
00:58:41,387 --> 00:58:46,067
I know for me, one is not that
it's not a goal for everybody's

1227
00:58:46,067 --> 00:58:50,537
staff and council, but, you
know, business retention

1228
00:58:50,537 --> 00:58:52,913
and recruitment is huge.

1229
00:58:52,913 --> 00:58:55,517
Nate is working a lot of hours.

1230
00:58:55,517 --> 00:58:59,327
I know Ryan has put a
lot of hours in as well.

1231
00:58:59,327 --> 00:59:02,027
And so for me, if that
is in our bullseye,

1232
00:59:02,027 --> 00:59:04,457
when I look at a
position, I probably

1233
00:59:04,457 --> 00:59:06,647
would be looking at
the parts manager

1234
00:59:06,647 --> 00:59:08,027
But I need more
information as we're

1235
00:59:08,027 --> 00:59:09,287
working through
this conversation

1236
00:59:09,287 --> 00:59:10,937
over the next couple of
months to understand how

1237
00:59:10,937 --> 00:59:12,377
is that going to impact you?

1238
00:59:12,377 --> 00:59:13,727
What does that bigger
picture look like

1239
00:59:13,727 --> 00:59:16,642
for retention and recruitment?

1240
00:59:16,642 --> 00:59:20,057
Sharon, you've talked about
in all the impact to our

1241
00:59:20,057 --> 00:59:20,897
to our expenses.

1242
00:59:20,897 --> 00:59:24,647
You know, when you know, more
residential homes come in,

1243
00:59:24,647 --> 00:59:28,757
that ratio of the return on
investment or the expense,

1244
00:59:28,757 --> 00:59:31,967
I guess, compared to the revenue
is not where you want to be,

1245
00:59:31,967 --> 00:59:34,907
but it's a lot better with
business and industrial

1246
00:59:34,907 --> 00:59:38,927
So we know we've got to a lot
of them in the Astral park,

1247
00:59:38,927 --> 00:59:43,817
we've got others commercial land
available so I would love to see

1248
00:59:43,817 --> 00:59:47,477
us support something that is
going to make us even more

1249
00:59:47,477 --> 00:59:49,817
impactful more
effective for that,

1250
00:59:49,817 --> 00:59:51,407
you know, for that for
that goal, I guess.

1251
00:59:51,407 --> 00:59:53,064
Yeah So I just wanted it.

1252
00:59:53,064 --> 00:59:54,497
We have a lot of time
to work through this,

1253
00:59:54,497 --> 00:59:57,437
but i've kind of switched
where I thought i might

1254
00:59:57,437 --> 00:59:58,637
be on these three positions.

1255
00:59:58,637 --> 01:00:01,577
I don't know that I don't think
we can do all three this year.

1256
01:00:01,577 --> 01:00:06,317
That's just my initial reaction
And Sharon, one of the questions

1257
01:00:06,317 --> 01:00:11,357
I have is when I scroll
down here on this model

1258
01:00:11,357 --> 01:00:15,857
before the dotted line
is a 6.6 9%, eight.

1259
01:00:15,857 --> 01:00:19,510
And then it's got the
Cecl salary in there.

1260
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:21,450
And then quite a bit
of the past manager

1261
01:00:21,450 --> 01:00:24,737
and then the the
additional health insurance

1262
01:00:24,737 --> 01:00:26,987
premium, the increase.

1263
01:00:26,987 --> 01:00:30,099
So that would include all those,
then and that would be 6.69.

1264
01:00:30,099 --> 01:00:34,097
Or is that is that not the
right percentage or those

1265
01:00:34,097 --> 01:00:35,917
amounts without the thousand?

1266
01:00:35,917 --> 01:00:38,507
That's on the other
side of the line

1267
01:00:38,507 --> 01:00:42,407
Oh, everything on
the left of that line

1268
01:00:42,407 --> 01:00:45,497
is included in the 6.69.

1269
01:00:45,497 --> 01:00:50,687
So if you guys wanted
to set it that 6.6, 9%

1270
01:00:50,687 --> 01:00:53,957
that were the lemonade
part of the parks

1271
01:00:53,957 --> 01:00:57,887
But I think we can
offset that with rate

1272
01:00:57,887 --> 01:01:03,587
by looking at job
descriptions and what

1273
01:01:03,587 --> 01:01:08,807
we can allocate other places
And then the equipment

1274
01:01:08,807 --> 01:01:10,727
will go away with that.

1275
01:01:10,727 --> 01:01:15,767
But that's not saying we're not
going to have savings on some

1276
01:01:15,767 --> 01:01:19,907
of these things too, and that
we can use some of those savings

1277
01:01:19,907 --> 01:01:24,197
for equipment purchases
that are needed.

1278
01:01:24,197 --> 01:01:28,698
So we need to add in a 12.71
in for the debt payment.

1279
01:01:28,698 --> 01:01:29,367
Yeah, right.

1280
01:01:29,367 --> 01:01:29,867
Yeah.

1281
01:01:29,867 --> 01:01:31,197
Six point.

1282
01:01:31,197 --> 01:01:32,084
Yeah.

1283
01:01:32,084 --> 01:01:33,414
The 10.29.

1284
01:01:33,414 --> 01:01:37,047
Correct It should.

1285
01:01:37,047 --> 01:01:37,547
Yes.

1286
01:01:37,547 --> 01:01:43,727
Because as you can see,
there's 2097 7022 3899

1287
01:01:43,727 --> 01:01:46,877
in that column does include it.

1288
01:01:46,877 --> 01:01:52,667
So it should include the
increase in the debt as well

1289
01:01:52,667 --> 01:01:54,527
And to be clear,
100,000 is under

1290
01:01:54,527 --> 01:01:56,402
the equipment
replacement fund or is

1291
01:01:56,402 --> 01:01:58,003
that lined up with the parks?

1292
01:01:58,003 --> 01:01:59,147
It's hard to tell.

1293
01:01:59,147 --> 01:02:00,767
That's in the equipment.

1294
01:02:00,767 --> 01:02:03,077
Okay Yeah, sorry.

1295
01:02:03,077 --> 01:02:06,327
I should have some lines in
there that make it easier.

1296
01:02:06,327 --> 01:02:06,827
I think.

1297
01:02:06,827 --> 01:02:09,377
I think we have to get
the equipment replacement

1298
01:02:09,377 --> 01:02:12,677
fund started I think
it's a high priority

1299
01:02:12,677 --> 01:02:15,797
And I think if
somehow we you know,

1300
01:02:15,797 --> 01:02:19,097
I kind of like that column
where at the 8.1 for myself,

1301
01:02:19,097 --> 01:02:22,737
I because what I'm seeing
things that it gets us.

1302
01:02:22,737 --> 01:02:25,011
I can't stick with the nine.

1303
01:02:25,011 --> 01:02:31,060
But if we have it at nine
that we can't go higher right.

1304
01:02:31,060 --> 01:02:36,342
So so Mr. glad you're the
one to kick off the 9% idea.

1305
01:02:36,342 --> 01:02:37,009
What's your thought?

1306
01:02:37,009 --> 01:02:39,741
Yeah Well, my main point
on this preliminary budget

1307
01:02:39,741 --> 01:02:43,106
was to pick a number that we
know we can get underneath.

1308
01:02:43,106 --> 01:02:45,441
And then work to make
those trades between now

1309
01:02:45,441 --> 01:02:49,817
and December like
mr. Canada said,

1310
01:02:49,817 --> 01:02:51,227
we cannot go above that number.

1311
01:02:51,227 --> 01:02:52,787
So we want to make
sure we're safe

1312
01:02:52,787 --> 01:02:54,107
and what we're
projecting to make

1313
01:02:54,107 --> 01:02:58,457
sure we make the right
choices from there

1314
01:02:58,457 --> 01:02:59,897
But it gives us time
to be able to make

1315
01:02:59,897 --> 01:03:04,517
that final tradeoff there.

1316
01:03:04,517 --> 01:03:05,087
Thank you, sir.

1317
01:03:05,087 --> 01:03:08,389
And make this more read
readable and understandable.

1318
01:03:08,389 --> 01:03:09,864
Now, I can now see this.

1319
01:03:09,864 --> 01:03:10,364
Yeah.

1320
01:03:10,364 --> 01:03:11,495
Yeah Yeah.

1321
01:03:11,495 --> 01:03:12,675
I hope it helps.

1322
01:03:12,675 --> 01:03:13,383
I just.

1323
01:03:13,383 --> 01:03:16,337
I mean, just because
I've seen you know,

1324
01:03:16,337 --> 01:03:19,037
just that long term,
you know, the long term

1325
01:03:19,037 --> 01:03:22,671
needs and you know, we all
know that things can change.

1326
01:03:22,671 --> 01:03:24,977
Obviously know
health care, right?

1327
01:03:24,977 --> 01:03:30,171
So i mean, yeah, I
can go up every year.

1328
01:03:30,171 --> 01:03:34,427
So mean it's not going to
ever come down too quickly.

1329
01:03:34,427 --> 01:03:38,447
So that's just part you know,
part of the overall piece

1330
01:03:38,447 --> 01:03:39,287
of the pie, I guess.

1331
01:03:39,287 --> 01:03:43,972
So it's just you know, obviously
just challenging you know,

1332
01:03:43,972 --> 01:03:47,447
the staff as to, you
know to really look at,

1333
01:03:47,447 --> 01:03:49,585
you know, their staffing
needs for the next year.

1334
01:03:49,585 --> 01:03:51,737
3 years, five years ten
years down the road.

1335
01:03:51,737 --> 01:03:55,788
So that's very
important Go ahead.

1336
01:03:55,788 --> 01:03:58,578
Yeah, I'm all done Yeah.

1337
01:03:58,578 --> 01:03:59,867
Marianne Kelso's
you guys are looking

1338
01:03:59,867 --> 01:04:00,952
at like staffing request.

1339
01:04:00,952 --> 01:04:02,147
You just couple of
thoughts for you

1340
01:04:02,147 --> 01:04:05,687
to so when Chief
Meyer, nice and you're

1341
01:04:05,687 --> 01:04:07,842
talking about like what we need
for the police department to you

1342
01:04:07,842 --> 01:04:08,259
right.

1343
01:04:08,259 --> 01:04:10,159
We're looking at what the
bureau of Criminal Apprehension

1344
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:14,447
says you should have which is
1.6 officers per 2000 residents.

1345
01:04:14,447 --> 01:04:15,895
That puts up is up around 20.

1346
01:04:15,895 --> 01:04:17,207
So originally when
we started talking,

1347
01:04:17,207 --> 01:04:20,267
we started looking at like,
can we request two officers?

1348
01:04:20,267 --> 01:04:23,327
Well, knowing we still have to
take budget consideration in

1349
01:04:23,327 --> 01:04:24,827
and finances, right?

1350
01:04:24,827 --> 01:04:27,257
So that's why we came up with
the idea of having a CSO that

1351
01:04:27,257 --> 01:04:30,317
could come in at all you
know, smaller amount,

1352
01:04:30,317 --> 01:04:32,327
but still help and take
off some of the pressure

1353
01:04:32,327 --> 01:04:34,487
from the police officers.

1354
01:04:34,487 --> 01:04:37,517
That's thing to think about
too, is like for staffing needs.

1355
01:04:37,517 --> 01:04:40,157
We look at you know the new
Minnesota paid family medical

1356
01:04:40,157 --> 01:04:43,457
leave A lot of organizations are
seeing a large impacts of that

1357
01:04:43,457 --> 01:04:44,597
right now because
they're missing

1358
01:04:44,597 --> 01:04:47,897
people that are out longer than
they would have had before.

1359
01:04:47,897 --> 01:04:51,137
So for example, we look at
public works Public works,

1360
01:04:51,137 --> 01:04:52,367
if I remember
correctly, they have

1361
01:04:52,367 --> 01:04:55,727
basically one plow driver for
each route currently right now.

1362
01:04:55,727 --> 01:04:57,827
But when I look at what I know,
what the public works team,

1363
01:04:57,827 --> 01:05:00,347
they actually have three people
that could be out if they wanted

1364
01:05:00,347 --> 01:05:01,667
to right now with
I new Minnesota

1365
01:05:01,667 --> 01:05:04,097
paid family medical leave
and those three people

1366
01:05:04,097 --> 01:05:06,197
could be out for up 12 weeks.

1367
01:05:06,197 --> 01:05:07,397
So when we're
looking at staffing,

1368
01:05:07,397 --> 01:05:08,957
it's also ensuring
that the city has

1369
01:05:08,957 --> 01:05:12,407
a staff to support the needs of
the of the community as well.

1370
01:05:12,407 --> 01:05:14,867
So that's why we're also
looking for the positions

1371
01:05:14,867 --> 01:05:16,547
that we're asking for.

1372
01:05:16,547 --> 01:05:23,147
So so to frame that a different
way though, if, say, the police

1373
01:05:23,147 --> 01:05:25,787
had the choice between the
CSO or the police officer,

1374
01:05:25,787 --> 01:05:31,337
which would you choose safety
of any what sort of reserve

1375
01:05:31,337 --> 01:05:35,597
would be our you know, our goal?

1376
01:05:35,597 --> 01:05:40,667
I think you know with the
staffing that was presented back

1377
01:05:40,667 --> 01:05:44,897
in April to I mean, we're down,
we're still playing catch up I

1378
01:05:44,897 --> 01:05:47,927
mean, we had 15 years
between 2008 and 22

1379
01:05:47,927 --> 01:05:52,157
or we didn't even
add a position.

1380
01:05:52,157 --> 01:05:54,827
And our call load is
over doubled since 2012.

1381
01:05:54,827 --> 01:05:57,975
So just with the
growth of the city.

1382
01:05:57,975 --> 01:05:58,660
And that.

1383
01:05:58,660 --> 01:06:02,147
And I would personally say
that a sworn officer would

1384
01:06:02,147 --> 01:06:06,167
be the priority the
current proposal does

1385
01:06:06,167 --> 01:06:07,787
not show that, though, correct?

1386
01:06:07,787 --> 01:06:09,947
The CSO priority.

1387
01:06:09,947 --> 01:06:11,207
Sharon spoke to that too.

1388
01:06:11,207 --> 01:06:16,667
Like this is a placeholder
and then was getting feedback

1389
01:06:16,667 --> 01:06:19,607
specifically and this
patrol officer at 139

1390
01:06:19,607 --> 01:06:22,307
that includes a car to or
is that another line item?

1391
01:06:22,307 --> 01:06:25,217
So that would be part
of the equipment line

1392
01:06:25,217 --> 01:06:30,647
item in the 100,000, correct.

1393
01:06:30,647 --> 01:06:32,297
It's not somewhere
else in the budget.

1394
01:06:32,297 --> 01:06:32,837
Correct.

1395
01:06:32,837 --> 01:06:38,027
But then the overtime bill,
the total bill would go down.

1396
01:06:38,027 --> 01:06:38,747
Right.

1397
01:06:38,747 --> 01:06:41,357
If you had Yeah, correct.

1398
01:06:41,357 --> 01:06:44,177
As as we're looking at it,
the hard part right now

1399
01:06:44,177 --> 01:06:46,417
is when we have training,
we're removing officers

1400
01:06:46,417 --> 01:06:49,017
So then we have to have other
officers come in for training.

1401
01:06:49,017 --> 01:06:50,987
And then they're on overtime
to cover for that training

1402
01:06:50,987 --> 01:06:53,747
where if we had more
officers then we could have,

1403
01:06:53,747 --> 01:06:55,484
you know, officer go
to training on Tuesday

1404
01:06:55,484 --> 01:06:57,017
and Ops would be going
to training on Thursday

1405
01:06:57,017 --> 01:06:59,437
without reducing our
number of patrols

1406
01:06:59,437 --> 01:07:01,337
and while we're looking at
police officers to that thing,

1407
01:07:01,337 --> 01:07:03,767
we want to think about
is staffing, right?

1408
01:07:03,767 --> 01:07:05,894
So even when you look
at you know, Lieberman

1409
01:07:05,894 --> 01:07:06,761
and these recommendations.

1410
01:07:06,761 --> 01:07:09,917
And just from a workforce
planning perception,

1411
01:07:09,917 --> 01:07:11,760
you want to look at your
workforce Five years out

1412
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:12,497
and what's happening.

1413
01:07:12,497 --> 01:07:14,181
So when I look at
the police department

1414
01:07:14,181 --> 01:07:16,457
and within five
years from now, I'm

1415
01:07:16,457 --> 01:07:20,207
looking at as having for
retirements within leadership

1416
01:07:20,207 --> 01:07:22,907
in special positions within
the police department

1417
01:07:22,907 --> 01:07:26,207
So we really want to be able to
increase the police department

1418
01:07:26,207 --> 01:07:27,467
to get that mid-level group.

1419
01:07:27,467 --> 01:07:30,948
So that way we have,
you know, the veterans,

1420
01:07:30,948 --> 01:07:33,947
the seasons, the group, and
then we have the new guys right?

1421
01:07:33,947 --> 01:07:36,647
And so by adding then
we can build on that

1422
01:07:36,647 --> 01:07:40,067
later on But then we have the
time to develop those teams

1423
01:07:40,067 --> 01:07:42,437
to take over those
positions within five years

1424
01:07:42,437 --> 01:07:44,837
because those retirements
are going to come

1425
01:07:44,837 --> 01:07:45,857
up faster than we think.

1426
01:07:45,857 --> 01:07:47,395
You know, I think
five years out.

1427
01:07:47,395 --> 01:07:51,497
And the other thing, too, that,
you know back in the spring,

1428
01:07:51,497 --> 01:07:53,057
I just want to
highlight this as well.

1429
01:07:53,057 --> 01:07:54,437
The question came
up this spring.

1430
01:07:54,437 --> 01:07:57,017
Even if you guys
authorize the positions,

1431
01:07:57,017 --> 01:08:01,277
do we have the applicants we
can hire with the current trend?

1432
01:08:01,277 --> 01:08:04,937
Right now, we have police
reservists that are graduating

1433
01:08:04,937 --> 01:08:06,857
this winter that are
ready and they're

1434
01:08:06,857 --> 01:08:11,097
starting to look for
jobs now And the reserves

1435
01:08:11,097 --> 01:08:13,817
that we're coming
up through our ranks

1436
01:08:13,817 --> 01:08:15,557
are recommended by
chief in this area.

1437
01:08:15,557 --> 01:08:20,677
And so now's the time to try
and add to that team, if we can.

1438
01:08:20,677 --> 01:08:21,179
OK.

1439
01:08:21,179 --> 01:08:22,760
So complaints that,
but to your point.

1440
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,327
So that's why we out of the
two sergeant positions correct

1441
01:08:26,327 --> 01:08:28,907
So we added the two sergeant
positions so that we could

1442
01:08:28,907 --> 01:08:30,487
have leadership at all hours.

1443
01:08:30,487 --> 01:08:33,451
So now with the four sergeants,
we always have leadership.

1444
01:08:33,451 --> 01:08:35,717
Often what I remember
hearing though,

1445
01:08:35,717 --> 01:08:37,247
as we were preparing
for the retirements

1446
01:08:37,247 --> 01:08:40,307
so we were bringing
sergeants in to train them.

1447
01:08:40,307 --> 01:08:43,367
I don't remember making that
more of a full time direction,

1448
01:08:43,367 --> 01:08:46,847
but that's kind of where it
sounds like it's going now Well,

1449
01:08:46,847 --> 01:08:49,877
part of it was not waiting
until late retiring in correct.

1450
01:08:49,877 --> 01:08:51,767
So we want to that was
the initial statement

1451
01:08:51,767 --> 01:08:52,697
that we want to make.

1452
01:08:52,697 --> 01:08:54,287
We want to maintain
those four sergeants.

1453
01:08:54,287 --> 01:08:56,148
So even as one gets
retired next year,

1454
01:08:56,148 --> 01:08:58,375
one gets to retire within
that five year period.

1455
01:08:58,375 --> 01:08:59,642
We're still maintaining
four sergeants

1456
01:08:59,642 --> 01:09:01,009
and not letting those two.

1457
01:09:01,009 --> 01:09:02,927
Roll off or back down
to only two sergeants

1458
01:09:02,927 --> 01:09:06,617
and not having
supervisor three 24 hours

1459
01:09:06,617 --> 01:09:08,718
and saying an
internal promotion.

1460
01:09:08,718 --> 01:09:09,218
Right?

1461
01:09:09,218 --> 01:09:11,495
Then you raise Yeah, yeah.

1462
01:09:11,495 --> 01:09:15,167
Well, I mean, that goes with any
department You know if there's

1463
01:09:15,167 --> 01:09:18,857
a parks manager opening
that gets approved,

1464
01:09:18,857 --> 01:09:25,725
is there a current employee that
has aspiration to grow as well

1465
01:09:25,725 --> 01:09:28,104
So yeah, and that's one
of the things they've

1466
01:09:28,104 --> 01:09:30,407
been having conversations on
deals like, who wants to grow,

1467
01:09:30,407 --> 01:09:30,907
right?

1468
01:09:30,907 --> 01:09:34,457
But then also, you know, once
you get that internal promotion,

1469
01:09:34,457 --> 01:09:36,887
then backfilling that officer
hundred percent not losing,

1470
01:09:36,887 --> 01:09:39,737
you're always, you're always
hiring replacement right.

1471
01:09:39,737 --> 01:09:42,553
All those all
downhill or beyond.

1472
01:09:42,553 --> 01:09:44,837
So Mr. can you brought
up an interesting point

1473
01:09:44,837 --> 01:09:47,447
as well about the
overtime getting offset

1474
01:09:47,447 --> 01:09:52,427
is that reflected in
this number Oh, yeah some

1475
01:09:52,427 --> 01:09:55,009
if you can go to the
general fund expense

1476
01:09:55,009 --> 01:10:03,497
audit your budget So
go back up to the top,

1477
01:10:03,497 --> 01:10:07,127
please I don't know if you can.

1478
01:10:07,127 --> 01:10:07,847
Yeah.

1479
01:10:07,847 --> 01:10:09,677
So you can see in the overtime.

1480
01:10:09,677 --> 01:10:13,307
It's not as obvious here
as on the department level,

1481
01:10:13,307 --> 01:10:22,367
but the without new positions,
the overtime as that 190,700

1482
01:10:22,367 --> 01:10:28,397
at with just the 2027 propose
those the overtime is that

1483
01:10:28,397 --> 01:10:31,474
100 and sixty-eighths on 30.

1484
01:10:31,474 --> 01:10:38,777
That's a 16% dick crease and
the police over time for having

1485
01:10:38,777 --> 01:10:41,387
an extra position available.

1486
01:10:41,387 --> 01:10:43,850
So is that the old position
of the police officer?

1487
01:10:43,850 --> 01:10:50,867
So actually that 2027 number is
both positions, but with what

1488
01:10:50,867 --> 01:10:55,667
we're doing, that will have
to if you guys come in lower,

1489
01:10:55,667 --> 01:10:58,277
I'm going to have to make
some adjustments in there

1490
01:10:58,277 --> 01:11:01,787
to meet what the levy would be.

1491
01:11:01,787 --> 01:11:05,897
So that's where we're going to
have to go back in and start

1492
01:11:05,897 --> 01:11:08,507
looking at the
detail calls and find

1493
01:11:08,507 --> 01:11:12,737
out what we're actually going
to remove from the budget.

1494
01:11:12,737 --> 01:11:15,647
That's that percent
improvement from 26 to 27.

1495
01:11:15,647 --> 01:11:18,339
Is that just being full staff ?

1496
01:11:18,339 --> 01:11:19,543
I'm sorry, say that again.

1497
01:11:19,543 --> 01:11:21,947
Well, in 26, the
budgets 200,000.

1498
01:11:21,947 --> 01:11:23,477
Looks like you're
on track to it.

1499
01:11:23,477 --> 01:11:25,907
Pretty close to that based
on where you're at today.

1500
01:11:25,907 --> 01:11:28,217
And the proposal
without new positions

1501
01:11:28,217 --> 01:11:31,097
and the 195% improvement.

1502
01:11:31,097 --> 01:11:32,665
Just curious where
that's coming from

1503
01:11:32,665 --> 01:11:34,774
is just because you're
fully staff this year.

1504
01:11:34,774 --> 01:11:36,437
Now or planning to be
fully staffed next year

1505
01:11:36,437 --> 01:11:37,816
and work in the first.

1506
01:11:37,816 --> 01:11:48,467
So yeah, the 200,000 in
26 that is that's what we

1507
01:11:48,467 --> 01:11:51,437
had adopted for a budget in 26.

1508
01:11:51,437 --> 01:11:53,396
Now that's pretty accurate
based on the current trends

1509
01:11:53,396 --> 01:11:54,667
you heard the actual right.

1510
01:11:54,667 --> 01:11:57,197
So Yeah, that's what I'm trying
to extend that you're planning

1511
01:11:57,197 --> 01:12:05,897
a 5% improvement without those
ads What's driving that I think

1512
01:12:05,897 --> 01:12:14,327
my intent was that the with
even with the positions

1513
01:12:14,327 --> 01:12:17,565
we filled last year that
started part of the way

1514
01:12:17,565 --> 01:12:18,691
through the year.

1515
01:12:18,691 --> 01:12:25,367
Yeah that it would help with the
overtime and so I think that was

1516
01:12:25,367 --> 01:12:31,757
my logic behind dropping it some
but that's some thousand dollars

1517
01:12:31,757 --> 01:12:36,617
which well well if you're short
staffed it doesn't take long

1518
01:12:36,617 --> 01:12:38,237
to burn up the $10,000, right?

1519
01:12:38,237 --> 01:12:40,442
Yeah you are correct.

1520
01:12:40,442 --> 01:12:44,927
I was hoping with because we
just hired our final office

1521
01:12:44,927 --> 01:12:51,347
or he started earlier this
week and i was hoping that

1522
01:12:51,347 --> 01:12:54,377
with him being on
that, that would

1523
01:12:54,377 --> 01:12:58,127
help us to be able to
take a small chunk out

1524
01:12:58,127 --> 01:13:00,420
of our overtime time.

1525
01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:01,787
We should watch that
the rest of the year

1526
01:13:01,787 --> 01:13:05,237
and see how that trend is.

1527
01:13:05,237 --> 01:13:08,897
How many officers have
we added since 2024?

1528
01:13:08,897 --> 01:13:11,807
And we may have had some losses,
but I'm looking at this trend

1529
01:13:11,807 --> 01:13:12,737
right where it's been.

1530
01:13:12,737 --> 01:13:16,097
Yeah, 211 208 And this
is General overtime

1531
01:13:16,097 --> 01:13:17,207
for all employees.

1532
01:13:17,207 --> 01:13:19,503
What percentage of that
overtime represents

1533
01:13:19,503 --> 01:13:20,236
the police department?

1534
01:13:20,236 --> 01:13:24,377
So that question
are you asking how

1535
01:13:24,377 --> 01:13:28,167
many additions or officers we've
added or how many people we've.

1536
01:13:28,167 --> 01:13:28,667
Right.

1537
01:13:28,667 --> 01:13:30,992
Because a couple of years
ago, you had an action to pay.

1538
01:13:30,992 --> 01:13:33,137
If we hire, you know, more
police officers, right.

1539
01:13:33,137 --> 01:13:35,207
That should offset and
bring down our overtime.

1540
01:13:35,207 --> 01:13:39,193
That hasn't happened
yet So when I started,

1541
01:13:39,193 --> 01:13:44,687
we had 13 sworn
officers We are at 5018,

1542
01:13:44,687 --> 01:13:48,813
so we're office You know, this
one that started on Tuesday

1543
01:13:48,813 --> 01:13:50,210
was number 16.

1544
01:13:50,210 --> 01:13:50,972
OK.

1545
01:13:50,972 --> 01:13:57,617
So that's 16 sworn officers And
one of the things that if I may,

1546
01:13:57,617 --> 01:14:00,077
that one of the things
that we have to look at

1547
01:14:00,077 --> 01:14:04,201
is that shift really factor
You add and you add an officer.

1548
01:14:04,201 --> 01:14:06,347
Now we're i would
say we're down four.

1549
01:14:06,347 --> 01:14:09,797
You add one, you going to
help on overtime until you hit

1550
01:14:09,797 --> 01:14:13,337
that shift really
factor or you can rely

1551
01:14:13,337 --> 01:14:17,807
on their current staffing
for all of the PTO vacation

1552
01:14:17,807 --> 01:14:19,967
and things like
that until you shift

1553
01:14:19,967 --> 01:14:23,777
that, you're not going to
see the significance savings.

1554
01:14:23,777 --> 01:14:28,217
Also as officers get more
years on, they get more PTO,

1555
01:14:28,217 --> 01:14:32,177
so they take more time
off There salaries go up

1556
01:14:32,177 --> 01:14:33,527
or their hourly wages go up.

1557
01:14:33,527 --> 01:14:35,567
So you could have
a situation where

1558
01:14:35,567 --> 01:14:37,007
you have less
overtime hours, but

1559
01:14:37,007 --> 01:14:38,387
you're paying more money out.

1560
01:14:38,387 --> 01:14:39,017
That makes sense.

1561
01:14:39,017 --> 01:14:40,097
Yeah.

1562
01:14:40,097 --> 01:14:43,697
So we do track the
hours of overtime

1563
01:14:43,697 --> 01:14:48,174
for each officer and what
bucket that is if it's a shift

1564
01:14:48,174 --> 01:14:51,437
extension, if it's meeting
time, if it's leadership

1565
01:14:51,437 --> 01:14:55,067
or they get reimbursed in,
you know, things like that.

1566
01:14:55,067 --> 01:14:58,097
So we've tracked that over
the last several years

1567
01:14:58,097 --> 01:14:59,747
and see those trends.

1568
01:14:59,747 --> 01:15:02,057
Isn't there also
something in the contract

1569
01:15:02,057 --> 01:15:06,377
about you cannot
show preferential

1570
01:15:06,377 --> 01:15:09,767
treatment to any one?

1571
01:15:09,767 --> 01:15:14,537
Yeah, you kind of have to divvy
up the overtime objective Lee

1572
01:15:14,537 --> 01:15:17,176
Or, you know, so
you have an off,

1573
01:15:17,176 --> 01:15:19,787
you know, an entry level
officer that makes a base wage

1574
01:15:19,787 --> 01:15:23,387
and you have a sergeant
that makes this, you the way

1575
01:15:23,387 --> 01:15:27,977
our contract is, is you have
to give the overtime to the,

1576
01:15:27,977 --> 01:15:29,927
to the one that has
the least amount

1577
01:15:29,927 --> 01:15:33,637
So you might have somebody that
makes a lot of makes a higher

1578
01:15:33,637 --> 01:15:36,257
wage, but gets the same
that overtime because they

1579
01:15:36,257 --> 01:15:38,057
have less hours at that point.

1580
01:15:38,057 --> 01:15:38,657
That makes sense.

1581
01:15:38,657 --> 01:15:42,917
So does you know i
feel like we have

1582
01:15:42,917 --> 01:15:45,107
to have a lot more
conversations because if we

1583
01:15:45,107 --> 01:15:46,967
need three more police
officers, even now, this year.

1584
01:15:46,967 --> 01:15:47,467
Right.

1585
01:15:47,467 --> 01:15:48,887
Plus we need other positions.

1586
01:15:48,887 --> 01:15:50,686
Something has to
give somewhere I

1587
01:15:50,686 --> 01:15:54,167
don't know that we can do
ten 12% increases every year

1588
01:15:54,167 --> 01:15:55,488
for the foreseeable
future, Right?

1589
01:15:55,488 --> 01:15:58,547
That's why even the $200,000
overtime, I just, you know.

1590
01:15:58,547 --> 01:16:00,789
Right now, this year, we're
on track to do 200,000 again.

1591
01:16:00,789 --> 01:16:02,926
But we just added a
new police officer.

1592
01:16:02,926 --> 01:16:06,047
So I know, we don't have enough
time to understand how that

1593
01:16:06,047 --> 01:16:07,127
how it's going to impact us.

1594
01:16:07,127 --> 01:16:09,107
But yeah, and a
lot of particularly

1595
01:16:09,107 --> 01:16:11,427
that that it may not have as
much impact as we hope Right.

1596
01:16:11,427 --> 01:16:12,242
A lot of them.

1597
01:16:12,242 --> 01:16:15,167
We have two officers that
are still on and training.

1598
01:16:15,167 --> 01:16:16,753
So they can't take shifts.

1599
01:16:16,753 --> 01:16:17,447
Right.

1600
01:16:17,447 --> 01:16:19,367
We also had a long
term deployment

1601
01:16:19,367 --> 01:16:23,674
that the officers back now
that that impacted significant.

1602
01:16:23,674 --> 01:16:24,201
OK.

1603
01:16:24,201 --> 01:16:28,457
I know for me, I need to have
better understanding of how it's

1604
01:16:28,457 --> 01:16:31,697
going to impact if we don't
do approve enough funding

1605
01:16:31,697 --> 01:16:33,527
for all three positions.

1606
01:16:33,527 --> 01:16:35,657
I think I'd rather just
stick with your 9% for now.

1607
01:16:35,657 --> 01:16:38,837
That's not where I
want to necessarily be

1608
01:16:38,837 --> 01:16:40,480
But we're not going
to solve it tonight.

1609
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:42,047
Well, that's a clear
distinction though, right?

1610
01:16:42,047 --> 01:16:43,337
We're approving 9%.

1611
01:16:43,337 --> 01:16:45,320
That's not where the
final levy will be.

1612
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,787
So we'll have to make
those tough calls just

1613
01:16:46,787 --> 01:16:49,067
to make sure staff
is aware and they

1614
01:16:49,067 --> 01:16:52,277
can tell their staff that, you
know there's more coming in.

1615
01:16:52,277 --> 01:16:58,667
The nicest way possible I
that's the direction from this,

1616
01:16:58,667 --> 01:17:01,457
you know, from
from the department

1617
01:17:01,457 --> 01:17:04,817
heads You know, we're looking
at, you know, their needs,

1618
01:17:04,817 --> 01:17:06,750
their wants, their
needs and stuff.

1619
01:17:06,750 --> 01:17:08,717
And I was just going to ask
you, you know, on the you know,

1620
01:17:08,717 --> 01:17:12,617
like the personnel or, you
know, committees I mean,

1621
01:17:12,617 --> 01:17:15,707
some of this stuff does coincide
with some of our financial,

1622
01:17:15,707 --> 01:17:17,957
you know, finance
advisory committees.

1623
01:17:17,957 --> 01:17:22,817
And sometimes we don't know
what, you know like Bob

1624
01:17:22,817 --> 01:17:24,287
and, you know, Kevin,
maybe, you know,

1625
01:17:24,287 --> 01:17:27,587
talking about if it's going
to add that great detail,

1626
01:17:27,587 --> 01:17:30,167
you know, it'd be nice just
to marry some of those numbers

1627
01:17:30,167 --> 01:17:32,867
up to make sure that what,
we're just getting there now.

1628
01:17:32,867 --> 01:17:35,357
Yeah, we're learning along
with you guys in the past know,

1629
01:17:35,357 --> 01:17:36,219
I understand.

1630
01:17:36,219 --> 01:17:37,486
I'm just saying, you
know, for the few

1631
01:17:37,486 --> 01:17:39,497
you know, for the future,
you know what they have,

1632
01:17:39,497 --> 01:17:42,827
you know, some some better
to, you know better.

1633
01:17:42,827 --> 01:17:46,495
Just you know, I would say
better, I guess, you know,

1634
01:17:46,495 --> 01:17:50,177
just more discussion
and some of this detail

1635
01:17:50,177 --> 01:17:52,217
where we can, you
know, help each other.

1636
01:17:52,217 --> 01:17:52,727
You know.

1637
01:17:52,727 --> 01:17:53,227
Yeah.

1638
01:17:53,227 --> 01:17:56,567
For help, not only the
finance, but the personnel

1639
01:17:56,567 --> 01:17:57,827
you know, needs as well.

1640
01:17:57,827 --> 01:17:59,447
So yeah, no, I'm with you.

1641
01:17:59,447 --> 01:18:03,917
I keep thinking if we help out
our economic development team

1642
01:18:03,917 --> 01:18:07,037
right, then we start
getting more revenue help

1643
01:18:07,037 --> 01:18:08,087
solve some of this problem.

1644
01:18:08,087 --> 01:18:11,657
I know it's going to be a couple
years before you start adding

1645
01:18:11,657 --> 01:18:12,677
more businesses next year.

1646
01:18:12,677 --> 01:18:13,217
I get that.

1647
01:18:13,217 --> 01:18:15,977
But you have to start
that stuff at some point.

1648
01:18:15,977 --> 01:18:17,657
You know, you're doing
an incredible job.

1649
01:18:17,657 --> 01:18:18,917
You know, he put a lot of hours.

1650
01:18:18,917 --> 01:18:22,787
I appreciate everything Ryan's
doing Chief I wish we could just

1651
01:18:22,787 --> 01:18:26,518
now four things give you three
more officers right now that

1652
01:18:26,518 --> 01:18:30,617
would make your employees
and your department you know,

1653
01:18:30,617 --> 01:18:33,377
just work that much
better, fill that time.

1654
01:18:33,377 --> 01:18:35,547
Like all that stress
on them all the time.

1655
01:18:35,547 --> 01:18:36,047
Right.

1656
01:18:36,047 --> 01:18:37,147
That they always
got to be there,

1657
01:18:37,147 --> 01:18:38,387
always got to do overtime.

1658
01:18:38,387 --> 01:18:39,181
We're trying to get to.

1659
01:18:39,181 --> 01:18:42,876
Yes, but we just need more
time to understand the impact,

1660
01:18:42,876 --> 01:18:45,077
I think before we can
make a final decision.

1661
01:18:45,077 --> 01:18:47,447
So one comment
what you're saying

1662
01:18:47,447 --> 01:18:51,080
there, too I mean, number one is
we're not double digit increase.

1663
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,247
We're not selling
health insurance.

1664
01:18:52,247 --> 01:18:52,747
Right.

1665
01:18:52,747 --> 01:18:55,457
So we can't get double digit
increases percentage wise

1666
01:18:55,457 --> 01:18:56,717
every year.

1667
01:18:56,717 --> 01:19:00,317
And the other is we've been
talking about building our way

1668
01:19:00,317 --> 01:19:03,797
out of our financial problems
for quite some time I think

1669
01:19:03,797 --> 01:19:06,137
we better plan otherwise
It's a lot of burden to put

1670
01:19:06,137 --> 01:19:09,167
on the economic development
team to say that we're going

1671
01:19:09,167 --> 01:19:10,367
to bring in this Hail Mary.

1672
01:19:10,367 --> 01:19:13,637
You know, taxpayer that's going
to kind of solve our problems

1673
01:19:13,637 --> 01:19:16,304
for us We've kind of talked
about the housing development

1674
01:19:16,304 --> 01:19:18,779
is going to, you know, take
care of our problems do.

1675
01:19:18,779 --> 01:19:20,340
And it doesn't happen
right now The rooftops

1676
01:19:20,340 --> 01:19:21,140
don't solve the problem.

1677
01:19:21,140 --> 01:19:24,347
So I think we have to figure
out our financial situation,

1678
01:19:24,347 --> 01:19:26,527
the best we can and
then work through it.

1679
01:19:26,527 --> 01:19:29,052
We are have to remember,
we're doing much, much better

1680
01:19:29,052 --> 01:19:31,164
than we were five
years ago, right.

1681
01:19:31,164 --> 01:19:34,037
Our debts way down, our
service is are up you know,

1682
01:19:34,037 --> 01:19:36,357
added fix the squad car
problem out of the staff.

1683
01:19:36,357 --> 01:19:36,857
Right.

1684
01:19:36,857 --> 01:19:39,917
So a lot of good things are
happening just can't all happen

1685
01:19:39,917 --> 01:19:44,657
at once So with that, I'll make
a motion to approve resolution

1686
01:19:44,657 --> 01:19:52,547
are 365-2026 or the adoption of
the 2027 preliminary levy at 9%.

1687
01:19:52,547 --> 01:19:55,099
Second, Mr. Mayor
first and second,

1688
01:19:55,099 --> 01:19:56,621
any other questions
before we go?

1689
01:19:56,621 --> 01:20:00,167
Yeah, I mean, my only point
is to get it closer to where

1690
01:20:00,167 --> 01:20:03,227
the number we want
it to be and just use

1691
01:20:03,227 --> 01:20:05,507
this as a learning
tool, you know,

1692
01:20:05,507 --> 01:20:07,517
how we can do much, much better.

1693
01:20:07,517 --> 01:20:11,417
Whoever sitting at this council
can do much better getting

1694
01:20:11,417 --> 01:20:15,817
you know, closing that gap on
the preliminary to the final

1695
01:20:15,817 --> 01:20:16,547
That's all.

1696
01:20:16,547 --> 01:20:23,297
But I'll when the ball comes,
I'll say you anybody else know?

1697
01:20:23,297 --> 01:20:23,867
All right.

1698
01:20:23,867 --> 01:20:24,497
All in favor.

1699
01:20:24,497 --> 01:20:30,409
Signify by saying I. I passed
unanimously All right All right.

1700
01:20:30,409 --> 01:20:31,427
We want the next one then.

1701
01:20:31,427 --> 01:20:33,767
And this is to consider
approval of a resolution

1702
01:20:33,767 --> 01:20:37,177
adopting a preliminary
2027 Ed Levy

1703
01:20:37,177 --> 01:20:38,177
for the city of North parents.

1704
01:20:38,177 --> 01:20:41,195
So, Nate, are you taking
this off or the Sharon.

1705
01:20:41,195 --> 01:20:47,477
Sorry I still on.

1706
01:20:47,477 --> 01:20:51,310
I apologize Mayor
and council on.

1707
01:20:51,310 --> 01:20:57,497
Here we are looking
at the r362 dash 2026,

1708
01:20:57,497 --> 01:21:02,927
which is the 2027 EDA Levy
for the city of North Branch

1709
01:21:02,927 --> 01:21:11,357
and the calculus
ations for the the EDA,

1710
01:21:11,357 --> 01:21:20,507
it's point 0181 3% of the
estimated market value

1711
01:21:20,507 --> 01:21:27,377
And for the h r e levy at this
point 0185 0% of the estimated

1712
01:21:27,377 --> 01:21:37,367
market value And that
number for the EDA, for 2027

1713
01:21:37,367 --> 01:21:43,847
would come out to $332,736.

1714
01:21:43,847 --> 01:21:54,197
And for the h r a to $336,081
And so these are in separate

1715
01:21:54,197 --> 01:22:04,757
Roselle Lucian's but if you
would consider approving those

1716
01:22:04,757 --> 01:22:12,107
at maximum amount for the
preliminary levy those are both

1717
01:22:12,107 --> 01:22:23,207
laid out here OK So this
is we got a nice email from

1718
01:22:23,207 --> 01:22:26,357
our LDA chair, Sara Paul today.

1719
01:22:26,357 --> 01:22:27,977
I appreciate sara
being proactive.

1720
01:22:27,977 --> 01:22:29,807
She's here tonight.

1721
01:22:29,807 --> 01:22:31,637
And this is going to
play a little bit deeper

1722
01:22:31,637 --> 01:22:33,649
into my conversation
about our focal point

1723
01:22:33,649 --> 01:22:35,297
for business development.

1724
01:22:35,297 --> 01:22:38,507
I just think is key I know it's
going to take a couple of years

1725
01:22:38,507 --> 01:22:44,067
for the fruit to bear as much
as we need it to right now

1726
01:22:44,067 --> 01:22:47,810
But I agree And that's where I,
I want a deeper understanding.

1727
01:22:47,810 --> 01:22:50,447
Last couple of months and
I say that positions a hail

1728
01:22:50,447 --> 01:22:51,887
Mary for a parks manager.

1729
01:22:51,887 --> 01:22:54,707
But what is it taken off
the plate for for Nate

1730
01:22:54,707 --> 01:22:59,147
where he can be more proactive
or proactive with the EDA

1731
01:22:59,147 --> 01:23:01,938
I think there are EDA has
gotten very active as well.

1732
01:23:01,938 --> 01:23:05,117
Lots of good
suggestions and ideas

1733
01:23:05,117 --> 01:23:09,677
But I do think our idea
is to move from being

1734
01:23:09,677 --> 01:23:13,316
reactive to a program like the
facade program downtown for sale

1735
01:23:13,316 --> 01:23:15,227
program that we've done over
the last couple of years

1736
01:23:15,227 --> 01:23:19,517
to be even more assertive
more proactive and I think

1737
01:23:19,517 --> 01:23:21,707
is various ways
we can get there.

1738
01:23:21,707 --> 01:23:23,717
I just think that that's
the bull's eye right now

1739
01:23:23,717 --> 01:23:25,517
for the next couple of
years for north branches

1740
01:23:25,517 --> 01:23:27,767
to really focus on
economic development

1741
01:23:27,767 --> 01:23:31,097
through retention
and recruitment

1742
01:23:31,097 --> 01:23:33,016
So I have no problem.

1743
01:23:33,016 --> 01:23:35,957
We're building you know, a good
fund there where I think is

1744
01:23:35,957 --> 01:23:39,647
going to allow the EDA to be
more creative and understand can

1745
01:23:39,647 --> 01:23:41,897
we incentivize some of the
things that we're looking

1746
01:23:41,897 --> 01:23:45,197
for in this community So
I'm going to make a motion

1747
01:23:45,197 --> 01:23:48,317
to approve city council
resolution number RS and Romeo

1748
01:23:48,317 --> 01:23:54,527
dash 362-2026 and the
maximum amount or 2027

1749
01:23:54,527 --> 01:24:01,667
is $326 and 80 $326,081.

1750
01:24:01,667 --> 01:24:04,470
Second, Mr. Mayor, first
and second, any comments,

1751
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:06,580
questions on that before
we vote as a percentage.

1752
01:24:06,580 --> 01:24:09,289
The same as this
year as last room?

1753
01:24:09,289 --> 01:24:09,918
Yes.

1754
01:24:09,918 --> 01:24:11,052
Greater Yeah.

1755
01:24:11,052 --> 01:24:11,552
Yep.

1756
01:24:11,552 --> 01:24:12,616
That's all I have.

1757
01:24:12,616 --> 01:24:13,116
OK.

1758
01:24:13,116 --> 01:24:15,267
And the question or no?

1759
01:24:15,267 --> 01:24:15,767
All right.

1760
01:24:15,767 --> 01:24:16,267
All in favor.

1761
01:24:16,267 --> 01:24:20,537
Signify by saying I I think
that's unanimously All right.

1762
01:24:20,537 --> 01:24:21,047
All right.

1763
01:24:21,047 --> 01:24:30,647
Now, same thing So
Marin council presented

1764
01:24:30,647 --> 01:24:33,707
before you is the resolution.

1765
01:24:33,707 --> 01:24:41,447
Are dash 363-2026
or the 2027 HRA levy

1766
01:24:41,447 --> 01:24:52,063
in the amount of 332,736, which
is the maximum amount All right.

1767
01:24:52,063 --> 01:24:54,617
I'm going to make a motion to
approve City Council resolution.

1768
01:24:54,617 --> 01:25:01,160
Our dash 363-2026 in
the amount of $332,736.

1769
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,867
We have a second,
second office mayor

1770
01:25:02,867 --> 01:25:05,607
and the questions on this one.

1771
01:25:05,607 --> 01:25:06,107
All right.

1772
01:25:06,107 --> 01:25:06,617
All in favor.

1773
01:25:06,617 --> 01:25:08,717
Signify by saying I buy.

1774
01:25:08,717 --> 01:25:11,087
That's unanimously
Thank you, Sharon.

1775
01:25:11,087 --> 01:25:14,587
Thank you Nate.

1776
01:25:14,587 --> 01:25:17,529
Forward to it next week.

1777
01:25:17,529 --> 01:25:19,337
I All right.

1778
01:25:19,337 --> 01:25:23,777
Finance update showing
you I kick us off Sure.

1779
01:25:23,777 --> 01:25:25,397
Make sure when you get
into cash investments,

1780
01:25:25,397 --> 01:25:27,977
we're talking about the
returns that we're getting.

1781
01:25:27,977 --> 01:25:33,417
Yeah Thank you, Mayor and city
council starting with cash.

1782
01:25:33,417 --> 01:25:36,737
Investments are cash and money
market balances increased

1783
01:25:36,737 --> 01:25:40,008
to 10.6 million in January.

1784
01:25:40,008 --> 01:25:43,337
Re primarily from receiving
the first property tax

1785
01:25:43,337 --> 01:25:45,617
payment from ceasar Go County.

1786
01:25:45,617 --> 01:25:49,247
Our investments remain
at 18.8 million,

1787
01:25:49,247 --> 01:25:55,802
earning an average of 3.988%,
although altogether, we

1788
01:25:55,802 --> 01:26:03,107
have approximately 29.5
million in cash and investments

1789
01:26:03,107 --> 01:26:07,847
So sharon can as long as we're
on investment part, you know,

1790
01:26:07,847 --> 01:26:09,047
you and i had good conversation.

1791
01:26:09,047 --> 01:26:12,347
I asked, why can't we use
some of that money So so

1792
01:26:12,347 --> 01:26:14,357
there's different pots
that it's attached to.

1793
01:26:14,357 --> 01:26:16,517
Could you just kind of
give us a summary on that?

1794
01:26:16,517 --> 01:26:21,857
So this 25 million is spread
out through all of the funds

1795
01:26:21,857 --> 01:26:33,227
and the generation Fund has a
a large cash balance which came

1796
01:26:33,227 --> 01:26:43,367
from the electric and is there
to utilize them The other i

1797
01:26:43,367 --> 01:26:47,267
apologize the other
enterprise funds so sewer

1798
01:26:47,267 --> 01:26:53,147
and and storm and
liquor stores and then

1799
01:26:53,147 --> 01:27:02,087
the water fund are all have
fairly decent cash balances.

1800
01:27:02,087 --> 01:27:05,957
And so then you get to the
general fund you get to all

1801
01:27:05,957 --> 01:27:10,967
the debt service funds you
get to the special revenue

1802
01:27:10,967 --> 01:27:14,297
funds and then the
capital improvement funds

1803
01:27:14,297 --> 01:27:18,917
and all of those And each have
a piece of this 25 million

1804
01:27:18,917 --> 01:27:22,007
by the time you break it
down, you have to watch

1805
01:27:22,007 --> 01:27:28,697
And then we have to
maintain in a certain fund

1806
01:27:28,697 --> 01:27:33,167
balance percent per Minnesota.

1807
01:27:33,167 --> 01:27:37,067
And our own financial policies.

1808
01:27:37,067 --> 01:27:42,767
We have to maintain a percentage
of the next year's operating

1809
01:27:42,767 --> 01:27:46,787
budget And so when
we're looking at that,

1810
01:27:46,787 --> 01:27:51,377
we have to, under stand
that some of that money

1811
01:27:51,377 --> 01:27:54,317
has to be held for an emergency.

1812
01:27:54,317 --> 01:27:57,887
Should that happen and
then and you're talking you

1813
01:27:57,887 --> 01:28:01,067
referred to the reserves Yes.

1814
01:28:01,067 --> 01:28:03,542
And so when you
look at all of that.

1815
01:28:03,542 --> 01:28:08,237
And then you come back to look
at what's left of the cash,

1816
01:28:08,237 --> 01:28:15,977
there the amount is not quite
as large as what this presents

1817
01:28:15,977 --> 01:28:19,257
So the reason for
this presentation

1818
01:28:19,257 --> 01:28:24,905
like this is to show what
we're doing with that money so

1819
01:28:24,905 --> 01:28:29,117
that, you know where we
are trying to generate

1820
01:28:29,117 --> 01:28:31,577
some revenue off
of that while it is

1821
01:28:31,577 --> 01:28:34,637
being held in those reserves.

1822
01:28:34,637 --> 01:28:39,947
And we have been
fortunate enough

1823
01:28:39,947 --> 01:28:43,667
to work with an
investment broker that

1824
01:28:43,667 --> 01:28:46,487
has helped us to realize this.

1825
01:28:46,487 --> 01:28:59,357
The almost 4% earnings rate
and for a municipal entity

1826
01:28:59,357 --> 01:29:04,277
and the limitations on what we
can invest in that is actually

1827
01:29:04,277 --> 01:29:07,397
a very reasonable
rate We can't go out

1828
01:29:07,397 --> 01:29:09,527
and invest in just anything.

1829
01:29:09,527 --> 01:29:12,527
So we're not going to
see the 12% return.

1830
01:29:12,527 --> 01:29:19,187
We have to be we're limited
to agencies and Treasury fees

1831
01:29:19,187 --> 01:29:27,737
and see these and bonds
and very, very limited

1832
01:29:27,737 --> 01:29:33,077
corporate obligations And so
in meeting all those state

1833
01:29:33,077 --> 01:29:37,337
requirements, receiving
this 4% interest

1834
01:29:37,337 --> 01:29:42,117
earnings is actually a pretty
good rate of return right now.

1835
01:29:42,117 --> 01:29:45,580
And, we had our resident mark,
you know, can I ask about that?

1836
01:29:45,580 --> 01:29:46,727
But I know a couple
of years ago,

1837
01:29:46,727 --> 01:29:49,517
I mean, we had some in the
upper twos, maybe low threes.

1838
01:29:49,517 --> 01:29:51,467
I mean, it actually has
come up quite a bit.

1839
01:29:51,467 --> 01:29:52,747
Yes, Maybe it's
been three years.

1840
01:29:52,747 --> 01:29:53,247
I don't recall.

1841
01:29:53,247 --> 01:29:55,547
It's been and we did
the last two years were

1842
01:29:55,547 --> 01:29:57,977
really a lot of
mature that we locked

1843
01:29:57,977 --> 01:30:00,347
up that we were able to write.

1844
01:30:00,347 --> 01:30:06,077
We did have a CD
at one bank in town

1845
01:30:06,077 --> 01:30:09,557
that was only
generating point 8%

1846
01:30:09,557 --> 01:30:13,337
and that was something
that was purchased

1847
01:30:13,337 --> 01:30:16,217
long before I got a hold of it.

1848
01:30:16,217 --> 01:30:20,477
And to sell it before
the maturity date,

1849
01:30:20,477 --> 01:30:23,657
it was just not a
reasonable thing.

1850
01:30:23,657 --> 01:30:27,347
And interest rates
went up in 22.

1851
01:30:27,347 --> 01:30:31,847
So anything that was
purchased early 22 is going

1852
01:30:31,847 --> 01:30:35,147
was going to have of
that lower interest rate.

1853
01:30:35,147 --> 01:30:39,827
And it just depended on how long
or how far out they had invested

1854
01:30:39,827 --> 01:30:43,187
the money I try to
keep our investment

1855
01:30:43,187 --> 01:30:46,247
around a three year average.

1856
01:30:46,247 --> 01:30:50,590
And so we are always
having money roll off.

1857
01:30:50,590 --> 01:30:52,916
So that if we do
have an emergency

1858
01:30:52,916 --> 01:30:56,573
that money becomes available
for those emergencies.

1859
01:30:56,573 --> 01:31:03,257
But at the same time, it keeps
that ladder invested at a fairly

1860
01:31:03,257 --> 01:31:07,157
good interest rate Go ahead.

1861
01:31:07,157 --> 01:31:10,967
You point the firm
that audits I'll

1862
01:31:10,967 --> 01:31:15,567
say the books they said you were
able Is that my understanding?

1863
01:31:15,567 --> 01:31:16,067
Sure.

1864
01:31:16,067 --> 01:31:16,577
I'm sorry.

1865
01:31:16,577 --> 01:31:19,217
See that where they said
they Look what you have right

1866
01:31:19,217 --> 01:31:22,353
now with these two
investments was

1867
01:31:22,353 --> 01:31:24,467
you've got a favorable
outlook from.

1868
01:31:24,467 --> 01:31:26,147
Yes Is that correct?

1869
01:31:26,147 --> 01:31:34,157
Yes I believe last year interest
earnings was about $600,000.

1870
01:31:34,157 --> 01:31:37,967
So we are contributing.

1871
01:31:37,967 --> 01:31:40,937
But that is spread out
amongst all of the funds,

1872
01:31:40,937 --> 01:31:44,687
not just general fund So when
we're talking about the tax

1873
01:31:44,687 --> 01:31:49,547
levy, it's not all
impacting that tax levy,

1874
01:31:49,547 --> 01:31:53,087
but some of it is,
if I remember right,

1875
01:31:53,087 --> 01:31:56,357
it was probably about
150,000 that got

1876
01:31:56,357 --> 01:31:59,957
deposited into the
general fund to help

1877
01:31:59,957 --> 01:32:03,390
with those expenses Thank you.

1878
01:32:03,390 --> 01:32:04,757
But another way to
kind of talk about it,

1879
01:32:04,757 --> 01:32:08,837
to write that 600 grand almost
paid for the water tower.

1880
01:32:08,837 --> 01:32:09,587
It government.

1881
01:32:09,587 --> 01:32:10,087
Right.

1882
01:32:10,087 --> 01:32:12,527
So there's things that we
can use that way to kind

1883
01:32:12,527 --> 01:32:14,657
of highlight how the money is
getting applied or, you know,

1884
01:32:14,657 --> 01:32:15,692
things.

1885
01:32:15,692 --> 01:32:17,627
Yes.

1886
01:32:17,627 --> 01:32:21,228
And then I'm here to
approximate 364,000 from

1887
01:32:21,228 --> 01:32:22,547
the sale that former Fire hall.

1888
01:32:22,547 --> 01:32:29,286
But so didn't that pay for the
new public works building Yes.

1889
01:32:29,286 --> 01:32:32,007
So it's showing is, hey we
got three a 64,000 windfall.

1890
01:32:32,007 --> 01:32:34,667
But then it had to go and
pay for the temporary loan.

1891
01:32:34,667 --> 01:32:35,327
Yes.

1892
01:32:35,327 --> 01:32:41,387
And we had paid for that
in 25 out of our pocket

1893
01:32:41,387 --> 01:32:46,132
And so this is reimbursing
us for that OK.

1894
01:32:46,132 --> 01:32:48,257
Costs that we spent
If I just wanted

1895
01:32:48,257 --> 01:32:49,577
to make that distinction Yes.

1896
01:32:49,577 --> 01:32:52,187
And how much we spend
last year was a 330 or 3.

1897
01:32:52,187 --> 01:32:55,787
65 was a final number
and the it's coming

1898
01:32:55,787 --> 01:32:57,604
to me as about $320,000.

1899
01:32:57,604 --> 01:32:59,883
Yeah, that was right in there.

1900
01:32:59,883 --> 01:33:00,675
The new building.

1901
01:33:00,675 --> 01:33:01,175
Yeah.

1902
01:33:01,175 --> 01:33:01,675
OK.

1903
01:33:01,675 --> 01:33:04,397
So came out a little bit good.

1904
01:33:04,397 --> 01:33:08,117
And paid for the fire.

1905
01:33:08,117 --> 01:33:12,227
Yeah All right, Sharon,
I know you're still

1906
01:33:12,227 --> 01:33:13,547
kind of working
through this, so thank

1907
01:33:13,547 --> 01:33:14,517
you for taking our questions.

1908
01:33:14,517 --> 01:33:15,017
Yeah.

1909
01:33:15,017 --> 01:33:15,517
No.

1910
01:33:15,517 --> 01:33:17,867
Any time.

1911
01:33:17,867 --> 01:33:21,857
So for the general fund, we've
had a few unexpected revenue

1912
01:33:21,857 --> 01:33:22,727
sources.

1913
01:33:22,727 --> 01:33:25,757
This includes the
permit revenue from LP

1914
01:33:25,757 --> 01:33:28,097
building site
construction, as well

1915
01:33:28,097 --> 01:33:30,347
as the sale of old fire hall.

1916
01:33:30,347 --> 01:33:33,887
This the increase
in other revenue

1917
01:33:33,887 --> 01:33:36,107
is also partly
related to interest

1918
01:33:36,107 --> 01:33:38,597
earnings and the
timing of allocating

1919
01:33:38,597 --> 01:33:42,347
the interest to various funds.

1920
01:33:42,347 --> 01:33:45,977
The EDA Fund is still expected
to have a positive year.

1921
01:33:45,977 --> 01:33:49,787
The facade program continues
to be used by local businesses

1922
01:33:49,787 --> 01:33:54,227
which is a positive for the fund
and for our downtown businesses

1923
01:33:54,227 --> 01:33:57,647
for the liquor stores Expenses
were up a little in July

1924
01:33:57,647 --> 01:34:01,397
as we keep up with demand
However, year to date expenses

1925
01:34:01,397 --> 01:34:03,767
are still below prior years.

1926
01:34:03,767 --> 01:34:05,657
Sales have also
picked up and are

1927
01:34:05,657 --> 01:34:09,137
in line with our normal
seasonal trends Summer

1928
01:34:09,137 --> 01:34:13,637
and the holiday season are
typically our strongest periods.

1929
01:34:13,637 --> 01:34:16,547
Finally, for Storm
water, sewer and water,

1930
01:34:16,547 --> 01:34:19,835
the Northwest Old Town Project
may begin having expenses

1931
01:34:19,835 --> 01:34:23,807
and all three funds this
year Any remaining funds

1932
01:34:23,807 --> 01:34:26,867
will carry over at year end
to complete the project.

1933
01:34:26,867 --> 01:34:30,437
This is causing some of the
current budget variances

1934
01:34:30,437 --> 01:34:35,597
because the whole amount
is in the budget for 2026.

1935
01:34:35,597 --> 01:34:38,657
And so those expenses
will be carried,

1936
01:34:38,657 --> 01:34:42,527
those budgets will be
carried over the project

1937
01:34:42,527 --> 01:34:45,467
does also, using some of
the electrics sale proceeds.

1938
01:34:45,467 --> 01:34:49,007
Therefore, the generation fund
could show a negative net income

1939
01:34:49,007 --> 01:34:54,167
at year end for stormwater.

1940
01:34:54,167 --> 01:34:57,766
Most of the revenue has been
collected at this point.

1941
01:34:57,766 --> 01:34:59,999
Our focus for the
remainder of the year

1942
01:34:59,999 --> 01:35:05,960
is simply to keep expenses
within the revenue earned.

1943
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:13,847
So anything that you would like
to discuss further stormwater

1944
01:35:13,847 --> 01:35:15,617
program and that's far program.

1945
01:35:15,617 --> 01:35:17,417
So I've asked about
it a time or two,

1946
01:35:17,417 --> 01:35:20,747
but how do we know
what's required?

1947
01:35:20,747 --> 01:35:24,299
Like where are the
expenses going You

1948
01:35:24,299 --> 01:35:27,017
I know there's minimum
requirements so I keep asking,

1949
01:35:27,017 --> 01:35:28,187
are we going above and beyond?

1950
01:35:28,187 --> 01:35:31,127
If we are, what are we
going above and beyond on?

1951
01:35:31,127 --> 01:35:32,897
What are those
expenses look like?

1952
01:35:32,897 --> 01:35:36,287
We have a breakdown on
how we fix the website.

1953
01:35:36,287 --> 01:35:44,897
So it's called alternate
Yes, we do And it doesn't

1954
01:35:44,897 --> 01:35:45,797
have to be answered today.

1955
01:35:45,797 --> 01:35:49,157
I'm just looking for those
answers long term So, you know,

1956
01:35:49,157 --> 01:35:54,377
again, if do we know that what
we're what our operations is

1957
01:35:54,377 --> 01:35:59,777
for the storms stormwater
so sewer program is meeting

1958
01:35:59,777 --> 01:36:04,607
or exceeding the state
requirement for exceeding

1959
01:36:04,607 --> 01:36:06,484
it by $100,000 on expenses.

1960
01:36:06,484 --> 01:36:10,405
Why and I don't know that we
I'm just throwing it out there.

1961
01:36:10,405 --> 01:36:14,237
So as far as I know, we are
meeting all of the requirements

1962
01:36:14,237 --> 01:36:21,587
that we are required to meet
right We have for i have

1963
01:36:21,587 --> 01:36:28,517
forecast that out $453,613
for expended features

1964
01:36:28,517 --> 01:36:36,347
in the stormwater fund for the
year of 2026 and the revenue is

1965
01:36:36,347 --> 01:36:44,567
at 550,000 And that would
leave us with a $61,000

1966
01:36:44,567 --> 01:36:46,877
net income to this fund.

1967
01:36:46,877 --> 01:36:52,457
That is from taking and
projecting out the the salary

1968
01:36:52,457 --> 01:36:56,957
and benefits the expenses
that have currently occurred

1969
01:36:56,957 --> 01:37:01,127
with consideration
of projects that I

1970
01:37:01,127 --> 01:37:07,487
am aware of occurring within the
year that haven't occurred yet.

1971
01:37:07,487 --> 01:37:10,457
And so I try to take all
of that into consideration

1972
01:37:10,457 --> 01:37:13,757
when I'm putting these
projections on here.

1973
01:37:13,757 --> 01:37:17,117
Something could
happen that we have

1974
01:37:17,117 --> 01:37:21,047
an emergency that we
have to go out and do

1975
01:37:21,047 --> 01:37:23,777
work that could affect this.

1976
01:37:23,777 --> 01:37:27,827
But my best guess
this would be where

1977
01:37:27,827 --> 01:37:30,437
I would like all park aware.

1978
01:37:30,437 --> 01:37:32,507
I expect that coming.

1979
01:37:32,507 --> 01:37:34,847
So this probably better if I
just maybe sit down with Matt

1980
01:37:34,847 --> 01:37:37,359
and kind of go through what
the means for program is.

1981
01:37:37,359 --> 01:37:39,656
So we know where the
expenses are going

1982
01:37:39,656 --> 01:37:42,287
and where I'm going as a
federal employee I deal

1983
01:37:42,287 --> 01:37:44,207
a lot with federal contracts.

1984
01:37:44,207 --> 01:37:46,637
And I had one where they
were doing what they

1985
01:37:46,637 --> 01:37:48,386
thought was in the contract.

1986
01:37:48,386 --> 01:37:49,380
And over time.

1987
01:37:49,380 --> 01:37:53,147
We kept finding out, no, you're
not doing the right things

1988
01:37:53,147 --> 01:37:55,577
So it's just a matter of
going back and reviewing what

1989
01:37:55,577 --> 01:37:58,517
are the requirements are
we doing those requirements

1990
01:37:58,517 --> 01:38:02,597
or did we somehow did it morph
into more than it has to be?

1991
01:38:02,597 --> 01:38:05,417
That's kind of where
I'm going to go right

1992
01:38:05,417 --> 01:38:08,615
So I'm happy to make time.

1993
01:38:08,615 --> 01:38:09,762
If you got time.

1994
01:38:09,762 --> 01:38:12,291
And I think the best we know.

1995
01:38:12,291 --> 01:38:14,837
Yeah, over the details of it.

1996
01:38:14,837 --> 01:38:18,467
So all I know is this big,
massive or program, right?

1997
01:38:18,467 --> 01:38:22,024
That's all I know We're
one $50,000 or more.

1998
01:38:22,024 --> 01:38:23,357
I think it'd be best
if we just sat down

1999
01:38:23,357 --> 01:38:24,807
and go through the details.

2000
01:38:24,807 --> 01:38:25,412
OK.

2001
01:38:25,412 --> 01:38:26,320
Sounds good.

2002
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,147
Make is plain small.

2003
01:38:29,147 --> 01:38:37,487
That All right, other
questions for Sharon Please

2004
01:38:37,487 --> 01:38:42,756
know No, I don't know OK.

2005
01:38:42,756 --> 01:38:43,525
All right.

2006
01:38:43,525 --> 01:38:44,294
Thank you.

2007
01:38:44,294 --> 01:38:47,417
Thank you So moving on
to liquor store reports.

2008
01:38:47,417 --> 01:38:55,547
Is that we're at or I know
Carlos just can't wait to talk

2009
01:38:55,547 --> 01:39:02,087
because i get to where I was.

2010
01:39:02,087 --> 01:39:05,297
Good evening, Mayor
and council Oh.

2011
01:39:05,297 --> 01:39:10,907
Oh, it is still
trending the same way

2012
01:39:10,907 --> 01:39:12,137
We're still holding our own.

2013
01:39:12,137 --> 01:39:14,057
It is a rough market out there.

2014
01:39:14,057 --> 01:39:19,037
And August really shows
that from my understanding,

2015
01:39:19,037 --> 01:39:22,217
from all lots of
different vendors

2016
01:39:22,217 --> 01:39:24,047
It's just it's the
trend right now.

2017
01:39:24,047 --> 01:39:26,507
There's going to be some
interesting things happening

2018
01:39:26,507 --> 01:39:29,357
that I will be curious
how sales fluctuate over

2019
01:39:29,357 --> 01:39:33,953
the next several months
between the GHC stuff

2020
01:39:33,953 --> 01:39:36,515
going away as of right now.

2021
01:39:36,515 --> 01:39:40,487
And then also I haven't
got much information

2022
01:39:40,487 --> 01:39:44,027
on it, but with the
Federal government banning

2023
01:39:44,027 --> 01:39:47,627
Canadian alcohol coming into
the country when couple of them

2024
01:39:47,627 --> 01:39:49,097
are bigger sellers for us.

2025
01:39:49,097 --> 01:39:51,287
So there's certain
things that are

2026
01:39:51,287 --> 01:39:57,327
it's going to be interesting
market OK I mean the good thing

2027
01:39:57,327 --> 01:40:00,887
right is the net income,
the net profit is still

2028
01:40:00,887 --> 01:40:03,407
is still a good number,
higher, great performance.

2029
01:40:03,407 --> 01:40:04,157
Yeah.

2030
01:40:04,157 --> 01:40:06,149
Even with less revenue
That's very impressive group.

2031
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:09,377
And I would you
say that your store

2032
01:40:09,377 --> 01:40:13,997
or store is doing better than
the state average right now?

2033
01:40:13,997 --> 01:40:15,001
I don't know.

2034
01:40:15,001 --> 01:40:15,610
OK.

2035
01:40:15,610 --> 01:40:19,247
I have to I'm I haven't
heard any of that.

2036
01:40:19,247 --> 01:40:22,007
I heard several in the area.

2037
01:40:22,007 --> 01:40:25,577
Are kind of just coasting,
matching their numbers

2038
01:40:25,577 --> 01:40:29,357
of last year, which
ours have dropped,

2039
01:40:29,357 --> 01:40:30,557
but our net profit is up.

2040
01:40:30,557 --> 01:40:31,607
So Good, good.

2041
01:40:31,607 --> 01:40:35,117
You know, last year, like
first half year, the sales,

2042
01:40:35,117 --> 01:40:38,053
we were doing way
better But this year.

2043
01:40:38,053 --> 01:40:40,851
I think it's I think
we caught up okay good.

2044
01:40:40,851 --> 01:40:46,852
I think okay questions
on the I think

2045
01:40:46,852 --> 01:40:50,567
it was brought up in one of
our last advisory committees.

2046
01:40:50,567 --> 01:40:55,947
What was the percentage of sales
on the low potency Pretty few.

2047
01:40:55,947 --> 01:40:56,447
Yeah.

2048
01:40:56,447 --> 01:41:00,107
I mean, it was I think
it's on here it is.

2049
01:41:00,107 --> 01:41:00,617
Or is it?

2050
01:41:00,617 --> 01:41:01,997
I don't know.

2051
01:41:01,997 --> 01:41:04,277
Yes it's on the second page.

2052
01:41:04,277 --> 01:41:05,752
I that I miss it.

2053
01:41:05,752 --> 01:41:07,817
You see 110,000 a year.

2054
01:41:07,817 --> 01:41:09,897
Oh yeah.

2055
01:41:09,897 --> 01:41:14,357
OK And what's you see the
federal government expanded it

2056
01:41:14,357 --> 01:41:19,967
to December 11th, I
believe But RPO system

2057
01:41:19,967 --> 01:41:21,977
is saying we have to
be done by October

2058
01:41:21,977 --> 01:41:27,737
15th to beat the deadline.

2059
01:41:27,737 --> 01:41:33,107
But that was before they federal
government extended it a month.

2060
01:41:33,107 --> 01:41:34,568
So it was only a month.

2061
01:41:34,568 --> 01:41:37,033
I thought it was a year, you
know, a month at the moment.

2062
01:41:37,033 --> 01:41:54,492
OK So you do the math
and most of them,

2063
01:41:54,492 --> 01:42:03,737
you know don't have any more
the percentage Yeah, I know.

2064
01:42:03,737 --> 01:42:06,325
You figure it like, well,
they're checking on that.

2065
01:42:06,325 --> 01:42:07,127
Just make a comment.

2066
01:42:07,127 --> 01:42:08,627
Thank you, Mayor.

2067
01:42:08,627 --> 01:42:11,451
Yes, we have our
square, which is

2068
01:42:11,451 --> 01:42:16,307
our point of sale of operating
system at the liquor store.

2069
01:42:16,307 --> 01:42:19,127
They're no longer as of
the middle of October

2070
01:42:19,127 --> 01:42:25,127
going to provide available
service for THC dry products

2071
01:42:25,127 --> 01:42:27,527
And we've also been notified by
urge by the League of Minnesota

2072
01:42:27,527 --> 01:42:30,677
Insurance Trust that they're
dropping not from insurance with

2073
01:42:30,677 --> 01:42:33,257
So we definitely
need to be done as

2074
01:42:33,257 --> 01:42:37,457
soon as the federal agencies
tell us is going to be

2075
01:42:37,457 --> 01:42:38,327
interesting season, right?

2076
01:42:38,327 --> 01:42:40,247
Football season coming
off the holidays.

2077
01:42:40,247 --> 01:42:44,256
What's going to happen
to our next summer.

2078
01:42:44,256 --> 01:42:45,587
So you can sell.

2079
01:42:45,587 --> 01:42:49,127
You can sell the low dose THC
cash only for another 30 days.

2080
01:42:49,127 --> 01:42:53,837
After that Yes. now.

2081
01:42:53,837 --> 01:42:55,580
Oh my.

2082
01:42:55,580 --> 01:42:58,078
And those conversation
I had with them, they

2083
01:42:58,078 --> 01:43:00,408
want it like completely
delete it out of the system

2084
01:43:00,408 --> 01:43:04,277
And I voice the argument
we're a government

2085
01:43:04,277 --> 01:43:07,577
owned business that I can't
just like get rid of stuff.

2086
01:43:07,577 --> 01:43:10,007
So it's going to shoulder
and reports and stuff.

2087
01:43:10,007 --> 01:43:15,086
But there will not be inventory
and won't be available.

2088
01:43:15,086 --> 01:43:15,707
Right.

2089
01:43:15,707 --> 01:43:17,168
All right Anything
else from council?

2090
01:43:17,168 --> 01:43:19,669
No, I mean, all Mayor,
I just and always

2091
01:43:19,669 --> 01:43:20,477
say this all the time.

2092
01:43:20,477 --> 01:43:23,207
But again, looking at
the net income percentage

2093
01:43:23,207 --> 01:43:27,677
and looking at where we were
24 23 to the last two years,

2094
01:43:27,677 --> 01:43:32,928
I mean I awesome job
by you and staff.

2095
01:43:32,928 --> 01:43:35,717
I also think this goes
along with saying what

2096
01:43:35,717 --> 01:43:40,127
positive involvement from the
council and input, both ways

2097
01:43:40,127 --> 01:43:43,793
done so thank you to our
liaison you know that you

2098
01:43:43,793 --> 01:43:45,337
guys have done back and forth.

2099
01:43:45,337 --> 01:43:46,127
So great job.

2100
01:43:46,127 --> 01:43:48,205
You do know how long
you've been in the position

2101
01:43:48,205 --> 01:43:51,145
after three years, middle of 20.

2102
01:43:51,145 --> 01:43:51,880
23.

2103
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:52,787
OK So three years.

2104
01:43:52,787 --> 01:43:54,827
So that helps to
write You get to know

2105
01:43:54,827 --> 01:43:56,147
your job, all the better.

2106
01:43:56,147 --> 01:43:58,817
And working with the finance
director we were able to dive

2107
01:43:58,817 --> 01:44:01,624
into a lot of things that
one of us realize we're

2108
01:44:01,624 --> 01:44:02,750
going on in there.

2109
01:44:02,750 --> 01:44:03,250
Right?

2110
01:44:03,250 --> 01:44:04,197
OK, good good.

2111
01:44:04,197 --> 01:44:04,697
Thank you.

2112
01:44:04,697 --> 01:44:10,007
Thank you for the comment
that appreciate that I'm sure.

2113
01:44:10,007 --> 01:44:13,277
I just like something
right now commenting

2114
01:44:13,277 --> 01:44:23,909
on profit margin on online
of the total total cost

2115
01:44:23,909 --> 01:44:36,947
So we ask and I know that it's
that it's a high profit margin

2116
01:44:36,947 --> 01:44:38,357
that's not net profit right.

2117
01:44:38,357 --> 01:44:40,907
That's not that's
not net profit.

2118
01:44:40,907 --> 01:44:44,330
Correct But your net profit.

2119
01:44:44,330 --> 01:44:49,337
Well, no, that was the same.

2120
01:44:49,337 --> 01:44:51,691
If that's right.

2121
01:44:51,691 --> 01:44:52,665
Right.

2122
01:44:52,665 --> 01:44:57,684
So you know, like it's going
to feel like net profit

2123
01:44:57,684 --> 01:44:58,517
for the rest of the over.

2124
01:44:58,517 --> 01:45:00,286
It's still there, right?

2125
01:45:00,286 --> 01:45:01,097
Yeah.

2126
01:45:01,097 --> 01:45:12,557
So i do so some other
the percentage of things

2127
01:45:12,557 --> 01:45:21,107
so each store carries
76% of the things

2128
01:45:21,107 --> 01:45:37,078
and you just said 66% of the
square footage in the east.

2129
01:45:37,078 --> 01:45:40,037
So that's something
in the spring.

2130
01:45:40,037 --> 01:45:40,791
And then the left.

2131
01:45:40,791 --> 01:45:50,604
So when when is our lease
up A couple more years

2132
01:45:50,604 --> 01:45:55,937
It's a few more
things going in there.

2133
01:45:55,937 --> 01:46:01,652
It's going to get
a lot worse Thanks.

2134
01:46:01,652 --> 01:46:02,933
3 years.

2135
01:46:02,933 --> 01:46:05,927
three years, three and
a half, the terrible.

2136
01:46:05,927 --> 01:46:06,617
Those are terrible.

2137
01:46:06,617 --> 01:46:07,637
These.

2138
01:46:07,637 --> 01:46:10,727
So I Yeah, see, look at that.

2139
01:46:10,727 --> 01:46:15,017
I got one All right,
Mr. Abbott you

2140
01:46:15,017 --> 01:46:19,490
take it away for councilmember.

2141
01:46:19,490 --> 01:46:27,227
Your Oh, I'd like to
or anything else for.

2142
01:46:27,227 --> 01:46:29,337
No, we're finance
liquor store All right.

2143
01:46:29,337 --> 01:46:29,837
Thank you.

2144
01:46:29,837 --> 01:46:30,707
Appreciate that.

2145
01:46:30,707 --> 01:46:31,547
Keep moving on.

2146
01:46:31,547 --> 01:46:33,827
Thank you All right.

2147
01:46:33,827 --> 01:46:35,447
Moving on to council goals.

2148
01:46:35,447 --> 01:46:37,787
I think this is going
to evolve and evolve

2149
01:46:37,787 --> 01:46:40,097
into a a work session.

2150
01:46:40,097 --> 01:46:41,747
But anything stand
out with anybody

2151
01:46:41,747 --> 01:46:47,327
that you want to jump into I do
have a question about the zero

2152
01:46:47,327 --> 01:46:49,517
based budgeting, because this
is transition to a zero based

2153
01:46:49,517 --> 01:46:52,517
budgeting model to evaluate the
necessity cost of all programs,

2154
01:46:52,517 --> 01:46:55,277
personnel and assets
compared to a do nothing

2155
01:46:55,277 --> 01:46:57,312
but isn't zero based,
meaning you just carry over.

2156
01:46:57,312 --> 01:47:00,017
Same services from one year
to another, start from zero.

2157
01:47:00,017 --> 01:47:02,485
Everything's got to
get justified OK,

2158
01:47:02,485 --> 01:47:09,407
gotcha You everyone jump in.

2159
01:47:09,407 --> 01:47:09,917
Anything?

2160
01:47:09,917 --> 01:47:11,106
No no.

2161
01:47:11,106 --> 01:47:12,585
We want to work session.

2162
01:47:12,585 --> 01:47:13,571
And I agree.

2163
01:47:13,571 --> 01:47:16,487
Work session is
would be appropriate.

2164
01:47:16,487 --> 01:47:17,387
And it is.

2165
01:47:17,387 --> 01:47:20,627
I mean, we've got some broad,
you know, goals and observations

2166
01:47:20,627 --> 01:47:21,771
to some very specific ones.

2167
01:47:21,771 --> 01:47:24,347
So we're going to have to
see what little is down.

2168
01:47:24,347 --> 01:47:26,927
I'm sure our city
administrator has some ideas.

2169
01:47:26,927 --> 01:47:30,377
I'm and I will say to if there's
anything that didn't get in here

2170
01:47:30,377 --> 01:47:32,507
that you thought should
have been summarized,

2171
01:47:32,507 --> 01:47:33,737
please bring it to
the work session

2172
01:47:33,737 --> 01:47:35,147
or bring it to you first.

2173
01:47:35,147 --> 01:47:38,175
Right I think it's
good with good.

2174
01:47:38,175 --> 01:47:40,447
Some of the work
with no, there's

2175
01:47:40,447 --> 01:47:41,447
a lot of good things in there.

2176
01:47:41,447 --> 01:47:43,757
And you know, as usual,
we can't do everything

2177
01:47:43,757 --> 01:47:48,587
But how do we streamline
this and prioritize it

2178
01:47:48,587 --> 01:47:50,730
Okay All right.

2179
01:47:50,730 --> 01:47:52,397
So I think we'll have to
make this a work session.

2180
01:47:52,397 --> 01:47:54,947
Matthew either
whether it's next week

2181
01:47:54,947 --> 01:47:57,737
or whether it's middle
of October I think

2182
01:47:57,737 --> 01:47:59,472
a lot of this stuff
doesn't necessarily mean,

2183
01:47:59,472 --> 01:48:00,897
we have to spend money.

2184
01:48:00,897 --> 01:48:05,597
It's just how we do business
or we focus on any, any commas.

2185
01:48:05,597 --> 01:48:09,647
Matthew no comments in
regards to the comment

2186
01:48:09,647 --> 01:48:11,537
I would certainly
say not next week,

2187
01:48:11,537 --> 01:48:14,158
but we can certainly move
forward with that in October.

2188
01:48:14,158 --> 01:48:14,840
Thank you.

2189
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,047
OK All right.

2190
01:48:18,047 --> 01:48:21,257
The next to the last
item was the idea

2191
01:48:21,257 --> 01:48:26,537
of a city gala or celebrating,
recognizing achievements

2192
01:48:26,537 --> 01:48:29,887
So I will say that it kind of
took a turn towards who's going

2193
01:48:29,887 --> 01:48:33,347
to do what and how expensive
it's going to be Let's put

2194
01:48:33,347 --> 01:48:35,867
the money aside
Let's put aside who's

2195
01:48:35,867 --> 01:48:39,347
going to do what from the
council Is there any value?

2196
01:48:39,347 --> 01:48:43,315
Do you see any value
in doing this ?

2197
01:48:43,315 --> 01:48:44,665
Yeah, absolutely.

2198
01:48:44,665 --> 01:48:49,007
I do as we bring in call it,
Chamber of Commerce Media

2199
01:48:49,007 --> 01:48:52,118
in a different groups together
that we normally don't hang out

2200
01:48:52,118 --> 01:48:53,672
or talk or you know very well.

2201
01:48:53,672 --> 01:48:54,172
Right.

2202
01:48:54,172 --> 01:48:58,967
So i think it's a great
avenue to be able to bring

2203
01:48:58,967 --> 01:49:00,177
a bunch of us together.

2204
01:49:00,177 --> 01:49:02,959
And not only that, just a lot
of community residents as well,

2205
01:49:02,959 --> 01:49:05,340
and local businesses OK.

2206
01:49:05,340 --> 01:49:07,882
Now the how on the
air and all that.

2207
01:49:07,882 --> 01:49:08,390
Right.

2208
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:14,777
You to be determined So the idea
of maybe creating a committee

2209
01:49:14,777 --> 01:49:19,138
and not all staff know No.

2210
01:49:19,138 --> 01:49:20,781
Any other comments on this?

2211
01:49:20,781 --> 01:49:22,150
No, I agree.

2212
01:49:22,150 --> 01:49:23,897
And yeah Yeah.

2213
01:49:23,897 --> 01:49:25,897
Forming a committee,
you know, that

2214
01:49:25,897 --> 01:49:30,082
might include some residents
and/or absolutely right.

2215
01:49:30,082 --> 01:49:33,590
You know in other
businesses as well so well.

2216
01:49:33,590 --> 01:49:37,305
And again, it's hard as we
discussed the budget tonight.

2217
01:49:37,305 --> 01:49:39,845
Right I mean, I wish
we could do more

2218
01:49:39,845 --> 01:49:43,607
you know which ultimately
benefits the city

2219
01:49:43,607 --> 01:49:44,567
by trying to get there.

2220
01:49:44,567 --> 01:49:46,551
And just it always
seems stressful

2221
01:49:46,551 --> 01:49:48,400
And we do a lot of good
things in this city.

2222
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,057
We have a lot of
teams that make up

2223
01:49:50,057 --> 01:49:51,917
the one team on the community.

2224
01:49:51,917 --> 01:49:55,261
And I just think that we're
doing ourselves a disfavor

2225
01:49:55,261 --> 01:49:57,497
if we don't take
time to recognize

2226
01:49:57,497 --> 01:49:59,564
and there's people are doing
things in our community that get

2227
01:49:59,564 --> 01:50:02,657
on a News Channel that
we should be recognizing

2228
01:50:02,657 --> 01:50:04,053
their achievement
right And there

2229
01:50:04,053 --> 01:50:06,416
and they're giving
back to the community.

2230
01:50:06,416 --> 01:50:09,767
So that's where I'd like to see
us kind of work towards this.

2231
01:50:09,767 --> 01:50:12,557
And if it's an annual
thing where we can provide

2232
01:50:12,557 --> 01:50:16,817
recognition, we talk
about it with our staff,

2233
01:50:16,817 --> 01:50:19,397
knowing what you're doing that
you're making a difference,

2234
01:50:19,397 --> 01:50:20,717
that there are achievements.

2235
01:50:20,717 --> 01:50:23,147
It's important to talk
about because if you just

2236
01:50:23,147 --> 01:50:27,587
go by social media right, we
all suck and doesn't seem to get

2237
01:50:27,587 --> 01:50:28,667
any good things going on.

2238
01:50:28,667 --> 01:50:29,747
But that's not true at all.

2239
01:50:29,747 --> 01:50:33,017
There's a lot of good things i
hear most the positive things I

2240
01:50:33,017 --> 01:50:36,203
hear our personal
director feedback me,

2241
01:50:36,203 --> 01:50:40,457
whether it's family, as you know
and then the parks and trails

2242
01:50:40,457 --> 01:50:43,337
are the sporting events are
our sports seems to be growing

2243
01:50:43,337 --> 01:50:46,979
in certain areas And I
think we need to make sure

2244
01:50:46,979 --> 01:50:48,566
that we're focusing on
the positive things that

2245
01:50:48,566 --> 01:50:49,603
hopefully make it.

2246
01:50:49,603 --> 01:50:52,397
The reason that we live
here and want to work here,

2247
01:50:52,397 --> 01:50:55,907
you know, so All right.

2248
01:50:55,907 --> 01:51:05,687
Anything from staff It's
less than two hours Okay.

2249
01:51:05,687 --> 01:51:12,287
Or anything from the council by
no need to do a planning Well,

2250
01:51:12,287 --> 01:51:14,267
it's time to go.

2251
01:51:14,267 --> 01:51:18,120
It's time to go All right.

2252
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:19,787
Nobody's jumping up, so
I'm going to make a motion

2253
01:51:19,787 --> 01:51:20,847
to adjourn to have a second.

2254
01:51:20,847 --> 01:51:21,347
Second.

2255
01:51:21,347 --> 01:51:22,097
Mr. Mayor.

2256
01:51:22,097 --> 01:51:22,727
All right.

2257
01:51:22,727 --> 01:51:25,457
All in favor Signify
by saying I. I

2258
01:51:25,457 --> 01:51:27,347
we are adjourned at 7:50 p.m..

2259
01:51:27,347 --> 01:51:29,477
Thank you You forgot.

2260
01:51:29,477 --> 01:51:32,257
Well, I know what we did in