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A mother and
daughter were killed.

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Several daycare children
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some of what happened.

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And you know, as far
by all accounts I mean,

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mental health crisis could
have been part of that.

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I just want to mention
that because this

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could happen in any community.

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North Branch has had its
own share of mental health

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crisis You know, people
that have been harmed,

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people that have died.

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And so I just want to
acknowledge that because this

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touches every single community
So if we could just take

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a moment of silence in
honor of the victims,

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I would appreciate it All right.

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Thank you, everybody.

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And just One last
plea for if anybody

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is in a mental health crisis
we do have nine, eight, eight.

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You can call 911.

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There are lots of
resources out there.

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Please do not
hesitate to reach out.

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This could happen to any of
us in we've all kind of gone

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through that stress, you know,
whether it's anxiety, depression

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a combination of things.

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I think it's all hit us
at one point or another.

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And as a community we need to
come together and make sure

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that we can support each other.

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So just wanted to make sure
that we get those resources.

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And I may work with
you, Matthew and Chief,

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to maybe try to post a list
of things I found today.

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Just kind of quick stuff,
but nine, eight Eight

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sees you put in your phone.

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Easy to remember as well as 911.

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So just want to touch
on that real quick Thank

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you for allowing
me to do that So

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our agenda approval is in
front of us before we jump in.

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Any consent agenda
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like to be pulled
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as a reminder for the
audience that they watch.

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And so consent
agenda We're proven

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everything all at one time.

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Usually they're not
controversial things

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There was one thing in
there about the Leaf program

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And again, just because our
public works director had kind

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of a serious personal
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he couldn't be here tonight.

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So that's the only reason it got
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meeting All right.

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So with that said, do you have
a motion to approve the agenda

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as laid out in front of us?

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So moved OK.

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I have a first and second.

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Any questions?

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No.

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All right.

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All in favor
Signify by saying I,

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I. That's unanimously All right.

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Just point out public
comment I know.

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I saw one person.

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Look like they signed
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All right Mr. Johnson Mr. Mayor,
Council members, staff chief

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I'm standing here.

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Paul Johnson commander of the
local American Legion here.

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And I just wanted to take some
time out to thank the city

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of North Branch for all the
support that you folks gave

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collectively to make our
mid-summer the 100th anniversary

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that the Legion has
been hosting at such

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a great success And honestly,
I know we've been out.

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We've been doing
it for 100 years,

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but I just wanted to publicly,
for the record state that

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we as a community couldn't.

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And as a legion,
couldn't do what

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we did without your approval
with all your hard work,

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with your people on the
streets public works,

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making sure that we have the
barriers put up for safety.

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There's so many details to
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and I just really
felt the need to just

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give one big, giant public thank
you from the American legion.

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And I know from the
city of North Branch

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because all I saw over
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with the exception of One little
storm that rolled through, a lot

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of people having a great time.

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And that's what it
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hanging out with with the
folks at the street dance

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as you're getting to
that, you know, 11,

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12 close to one in the
morning time frame with some

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of our officers who are
on duty there just seeing

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them sacrificing time
to make sure everyone

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else can be out having
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it just it warrants a public.

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Thank you on the American
Legion's part And again,

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we will continue to work as we
move into one on one for next

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year With that, our American
Legion is is changing a little

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bit now of our focus from
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our Veterans Memorial today
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this morning, the American
Legion donated another $30,000

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to the beautification committee
to help get that regional

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veterans Memorial built. And in
about the last year and a half

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or so, our little post across
the street has raised over

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$150,000 out of the 300,000 that
have been raised And as I look

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at the calendar it's
hard to believe it's been

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25 years since our 911 tragedy.

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And the ongoing global war on
terror in this past mid-summer,

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we had two Gold Star families
as our grand marshals.

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Those lives were lost as a
result of actions after 911.

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And some of us, we've been
to some of these great parts

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of the world, Afghanistan
and Iraq and all

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these other wonderful places
to hunt these people down,

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which we're hitting.

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The 25 anniversary for 911.

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To me, it's we've got to give
our public this memorial.

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And we've got a whole bunch
of irons in the fire to try

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and bring this thing home soon.

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We're expecting big things
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to really get this thing to
fruition getting the concrete

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laid, getting the
stolen sport purchased

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and all of that
and all our city is

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on board I know you guys are now
kind of with the beautification

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committee in charge of that.

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We are still obviously going
to be the biggest supporters

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as a veterans organization US.

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And I can speak for the VFW
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as well.

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And i just again, ask
the city to again,

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help as much as you can
especially in October,

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when those first 10% taxes roll
in on the gaming things keep us

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in mind This is a
reminder, again,

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we donated $30,000 to a
beautification committee today

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We get this memorial wall built
in a year That $30,000 can be

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going to anything else in
this community and that'll be

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forever into the future.

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Help us get this thing
built. The Legion

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will stand by this community as
we've had for over 100 years.

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So just keep us
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But as we face 25
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and we've lost people as a
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let's just get this thing built
for them and do all that we can

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I love this town.

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I think most of you
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what we all this town, and
I know that we have support

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with the council and our city
just really appreciate all

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that you all do with all
the irons and all the fires

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that you've got burning
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just try to keep us in
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With that, I will
all colonels just

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get in front of a microphone.

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You don't want to
leave I will leave.

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So that others can bring up
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And in the end, I just
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So from the American Legion.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. you for
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up to council members.

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Sheeba, Canada, and midterm.

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I'm here once again to encourage
you to vote to cancel the flop

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contract Your constituents have
done their homework carved out

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time to write emails that
go unanswered and showed

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two meetings that
did not even have

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all council members present.

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We have worked
hard to educate You

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regarding how helpers truly work
and the dangerous possibilities

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of them.

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Despite feeling brushed off,
we are still moving forward.

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So far we have gone over the
following potential abuse

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by staff, hardware and security
vulnerabilities for hacking

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the overwhelming failure rate of
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Fourth Amendment concerns and
the recent ruling by the Supreme

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Court on June 29th that pulling
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constitutes a
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a warrant cost to repair,
vandalized or stolen equipment.

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Concerns that flock itself is
lying about the capabilities

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vulnerabilities
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sharing of lpas personal data
being sold to third parties

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as made possible by the customer
agreement signed by the Council.

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While I believe that
stopping an act of abduction

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is a very, very good reason
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I understand that there are
currently too many unknowns, too

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many cases of abuse too much
potential for them to be used

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against the public on a
mass scale too many cases

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of misread plates leading to
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with innocent individuals
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the ALP failed to
prove anything for us

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to go forward with
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Our city is made up of
hardworking people who do not

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want any one playing
with their tax money

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and this feels negligent
Continuing to vote yes

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on a flat contract and
knowing there are great risks

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and unknowns while you do so
will absolutely be a stain

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on your personal legacies.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Sam Sam.

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Not bad for someone
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don't like to be around people.

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So good job You made that
comment once upon me.

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Here.

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I get it.

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All right, West.

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Mr. West i don't
have a whole lot

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more to add Sam's
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of bringing everything up.

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The only thing I
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is not just canceling contract
but putting either a ban

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or moratorium on
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forward for a good foreseeable
future would be great.

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And would go a long way
to show that you guys are

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listening to us So thank you.

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Thank you Mark Mr. Mark ?

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Yeah, I just wanted to
let you know that i like

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that, you're going forward
with the thought of cancer

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and cancel it all.

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Not moving for something
other companies product work.

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And I think this
show our community

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will stand up if you don't
advertise what's on the agenda.

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Enough.

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Because we didn't know about it
until after the fact because we

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don't look at your
web page every day.

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We're on social media
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don't look at your
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to see what's on the agenda.

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So it and it it
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might not have seemed
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but it's very important in
this whole country's in a stage

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right now where
everything's important.

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If you're on the right side OK.

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Thank you, Mark All right.

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As anybody else would like
to provide public comment,

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that's all I have to i
have signed up All right.

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We'll move forward then So
move on to consent agenda.

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So this is our time to actually
approve the consent agenda.

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So do we have a motion ?

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I'll make that motion.

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There to approve
consent agendas.

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Items is and attempt
to end as in no.

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Nora or November November?

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Yes, sir.

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Numeral numeral?

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Yes.

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All right.

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I can second that.

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I got a first and second.

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Second by council member.

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I bring her All right.

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Any questions ?

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No.

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All right.

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All in favor.

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Signify by saying I.
I ask unanimously.

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Thank you All right.

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So under nine is
considered a recommendation

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A positive for cancellation.

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Right forward from the
August 5th 2026 work session.

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So our city administrator,
Matthew Hill,

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is going to provide
the summary to get

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this started Thank you,
Mayor and council Yeah,

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a little background on this.

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We do have on May 13th, City
council did approve a three year

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contract with Flock safety
for the installation

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of Seven automated license
plate reader cameras.

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The decision was passed with
a32 vote funded and a one time

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allocation from 2023 state
public safety aid following this

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approval, the city did receive
significant community feedback

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and expressions of concern
regarding privacy data

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and the deployment of this
technology In response to these

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concerns the City Council set
up a community work session

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and public information meeting
which was held on August 5th,

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26, to facilitate dialogue
between the residents,

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city staff and the elected
officials As of right now August

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7 on this, this right up, but
consistent to that, 2 2 2 today,

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three of the seven cameras
have been physically installed,

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but they're not operational.

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They're currently bagged up and
not on the locations are listed

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as Lincoln trail in through 60th
Forest Boulevard and three 60th

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and Saint Croix Trail and 387.

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None of these cameras have been
activated They're currently

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non-operational I
mentioned the bagging

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the precautionary
measures put into place

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for that the installation of
the remaining four cameras

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has been paused pending
further council direction.

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And that's why we're here this
evening We do want to bring up

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some considerations for
the Council in regards

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to this next step.

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The total contract value for the
Three year agreement is $63,000,

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while the initial installation
fees were waived any requests

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to remove the already
installed cameras

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would likely fall outside
of the scope of the project.

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So there might be
additional costs for that.

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Chief Meyer has requested
some information

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from Flock regarding
the implications

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of canceling the contract.

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We have yet to receive any
information on that from Flock

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directly.

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There may be updates
as the days go forward,

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but we are looking
at next steps.

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The city council
is now being asked

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to determine the future of the
a l e r program With flock.

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You've got a couple of
different courses of action

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that you can take.

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He can continue to move forward
with the original installation

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You can put this
on indefinite pause

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maintain the current
status and remove

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the three non operational
cameras for precautions.

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And then the third
operator or Third option

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is removal and termination of
the contract At the community

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meeting on August Fifth, Mayor
Schreiber did state that he was

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going to request that
the city council place

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the project on an
indefinite pause

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and there was consensus of the
three council members that were

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present present at that meeting
That request is now being

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brought forward to the city
council for formal consideration

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the requested action.

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This evening is a motion in
a second to pause the clock

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installation as brought forward
from the August fifth, 2026,

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work session OK.

317
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Thank you, sir.

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All right.

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So obviously council
members and Meachum

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you were not there last week.

321
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So before we kind of
jump into other things,

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is there anything that
you want to comment

323
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or or say you want
to note right now?

324
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OK The only question
I have is financially,

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if we do approve the termination
do we think we think we're

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paying the original
contract price plus removal

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or will we save some
from the basically

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not installing the four?

329
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Originally we don't
have the answer to that.

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We have reached out to Flock to
get that consideration I think

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there they may be waiting until
the actual action by the Council

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to provide that data.

333
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But we do have that
request at Flock,

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They've acknowledged that
they've received the request We

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just have not received
the information yet

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And we can revise But the action
you could put in your options

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with it.

338
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Yeah, absolutely All right.

339
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Councilmember Binger or Canada
you were there last week.

340
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So any many comments,
questions Comments?

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No.

342
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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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For for me, it's you know, to
then definitely While you said

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you know, pause indefinite
pause because i think there's

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some questions
that we have to get

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answered First to understand how
we can move forward with this.

348
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And I've got some
things that, you

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know some feedback and stuff.

350
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I want to provide Yes.

351
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Yeah.

352
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Because I you know, just, you
know, take out the word pause

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and just, you know, take it
off the table right away.

354
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I don't think we're
able to cancel it today

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because your chief,
you're trying

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to get the dollars involved and
then also listening to the you

357
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know, the fine
residents here, you know

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you know, like of only company.

359
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Right.

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So to reward three
words and to say,

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hey indefinitely not install any
block type cameras elsewhere x

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on or okay Sam you probably
know the 47 that are available

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or whatever.

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I can't name them
all, but you know,

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to reword that would be great.

366
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Yeah.

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Make a motion as I mentioned,
you so well, I wonder.

368
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Excuse me, Regina
That gap would be I

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mean, personally on
the financial and i

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appreciate Councilmember Glaze
comment or question there is it

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would it be that imprudent
for us to cancel at this time

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going forward with the pause?

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But again, hearing the voice of
the community say after a vote

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or during the
converse days, we go,

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here's consensus to add
the next agenda item.

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So that it.

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We're being publicly
say and adding

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cancel to the next meeting.

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Sorry the next agenda item
but to our next meeting

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later this month.

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So that it is on there and
it's remained in public

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and there is some accountability
as opposed to just pausing it.

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And then thinking, you
know as a city resident,

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you can think, well,
they're just pausing it

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and put it on the back
burner to an up in attention.

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But if we put it on
the next agenda item,

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it gives the chief
time to hear back

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from about the contract and
those financial implications

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that we may face.

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So that would be
kind of the route

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that I would be looking OK.

392
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So you would say, though, we'd
still have these three options.

393
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Yeah.

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Not get rid of the options
that we would want.

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This item if we do the pause
Okay, but then give the consent

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is the staff to put this
on the council conversation

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on the next meeting.

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So that we give staff
and the chief time

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to get those financial
considerations in the contract

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language So, so last week,
you know, my purpose on kind

401
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of choosing that
type of language,

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we were missing to
call the members.

403
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We didn't have answers
from Flock, how

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we would go about doing that.

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I also made the
statement that, you know,

406
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this is about what
we want, right?

407
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I mean however, that works, the
slack You know, I think if we

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feel like those three need
to be taken down right away,

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that's what we should do I'm
going to quick just provide

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a summary kind of
not like last week,

411
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but it probably took me
about five minutes or so.

412
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But Yeah, so I may
misunderstood you,

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but you're saying
about the three cameras

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remaining or the three options?

415
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No, these three,
I don't know When

416
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you said that I didn't
want it misconstrued

417
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Yeah, it was just three.

418
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Yeah You know,
first of all, I want

419
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to say that I am probably the
residents that came forward.

420
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It's not easy.

421
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It can be nerve
wracking getting up.

422
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You know, some of you
said that you didn't.

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You were nervous and stuff.

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You didn't show it,
but it does take a lot.

425
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And I know that there was
an attempt early on just

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to do this through Facebook,
but i will tell you, for me,

427
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it made a big difference for
our whole council for you

428
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to come in and interact with us.

429
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That made a big difference
We can go back and forth,

430
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ask questions You guys made
statements and that says a lot.

431
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That shows it shows
that you do care.

432
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I hope that you do
choose to stay involved.

433
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But the discussions coming
up and, you know, for me,

434
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I've mentioned this before,
this was a tool that our police

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chief had come to the council
with trying to enhance,

436
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you know their abilities to
catch the worst of the worst

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for the crimes missing
missing persons

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was another one with his
license plate readers.

439
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You know, as I've gotten
feedback in my mind,

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it kind of formed from
three different categories.

441
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We have the Facebook group
and you guys strongly opposed.

442
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I had people who are not
crazy about the cameras,

443
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but saw the benefits and
seemed to be willing to see

444
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the offset on that.

445
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And then the third group was
people who told me repeatedly,

446
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I have nothing to hide.

447
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Right.

448
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And they saw the
potential benefits.

449
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There are three
different categories.

450
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I did hear from a lot of
people A lot of people

451
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chose and I'm just trying to
be straight with what they told

452
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me and chose not to engage
in the Facebook stuff

453
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because they just didn't feel
like it was going to be a very

454
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productive That was
some of the feedback

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I just want to share with some
of you that were on that group.

456
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But I do see a common theme
and that common theme was,

457
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you know did not
understand completely

458
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the function of the Alpers.

459
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You guys had mentioned
that too but also I

460
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didn't understand
which guardrails were

461
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in place to protect the data.

462
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So from all three groups that I
kind of saw this feedback coming

463
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from, that was a
common theme You

464
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know I have had a couple of
conversations with our county

465
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sheriff saying you know, I
wanted to get local feedback

466
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to they did not see
locally, what some of you

467
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have brought forward,
but obviously

468
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we've seen a nationally.

469
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Right.

470
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There have been some issues
They see it as a valuable tool.

471
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It's helped them solve
some of the crimes.

472
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I've been following Sandy
County Sheriff and Chief,

473
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what's i for that we say?

474
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Yeah I thought he did a great
job of couple of times of trying

475
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to describe trying
to provide data

476
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But again, if you don't trust
the data if you don't trust

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the system and that
information doesn't matter

478
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listen to a conversation.

479
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This morning.

480
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I happened to catch a radio
interview with Mendota

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Heights Police Chief.

482
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And again, she talked about the
guardrails and the mistrust.

483
00:24:01,362 --> 00:24:04,962
And but she also said that
they don't have them there,

484
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but they have had to utilize
that to adjacent cities

485
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and said that it has been a
valuable tool to help them solve

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some of the crimes,
catch some of the people

487
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But she acknowledged
that she doesn't think

488
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the right guardrails are in
place yet to be able to utilize

489
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that that type of a
technology So I just

490
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want to share a little bit
of that with you You know,

491
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reading from Wesley Paul,
they chose to our city well,

492
00:24:26,142 --> 00:24:30,462
Saint Paul chose to cancel
their contract as well

493
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And I think the city
manager stated it

494
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better than I probably could.

495
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He talked about the police
department using the tool.

496
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The right way.

497
00:24:38,066 --> 00:24:40,362
But unless the public
understands and trust a tool,

498
00:24:40,362 --> 00:24:43,242
it's not worth using
The second statement

499
00:24:43,242 --> 00:24:44,682
that I really liked
from the city manager

500
00:24:44,682 --> 00:24:47,172
there was carrying
forward a system.

501
00:24:47,172 --> 00:24:48,716
The community does not yet.

502
00:24:48,716 --> 00:24:53,172
Trust cost the city more than it
returns So at this point, that's

503
00:24:53,172 --> 00:24:56,382
kind of where I'm at as
well I saw the benefits,

504
00:24:56,382 --> 00:24:59,082
but I also understand the
loopholes, the concerns I also

505
00:24:59,082 --> 00:25:00,942
understand the government
overreach stuff I've

506
00:25:00,942 --> 00:25:03,685
worked with three
different federal agencies

507
00:25:03,685 --> 00:25:04,498
There's lots of things.

508
00:25:04,498 --> 00:25:05,474
I'm not happy with that.

509
00:25:05,474 --> 00:25:06,450
We have to deal with.

510
00:25:06,450 --> 00:25:10,752
So i do understand that the
slippery slope mentality right?

511
00:25:10,752 --> 00:25:11,682
So I do understand that.

512
00:25:11,682 --> 00:25:15,612
And that was brought up
several times My purpose,

513
00:25:15,612 --> 00:25:18,492
again on for me personally
bringing this to the council

514
00:25:18,492 --> 00:25:20,682
to do a indefinite
pause was because we

515
00:25:20,682 --> 00:25:22,542
just didn't have
the right answers

516
00:25:22,542 --> 00:25:24,402
to know how we could cancel.

517
00:25:24,402 --> 00:25:26,412
This is not to say that
we're not going to.

518
00:25:26,412 --> 00:25:28,662
I feel like that's the
right path to go down.

519
00:25:28,662 --> 00:25:30,702
I just I think we need
some more answers.

520
00:25:30,702 --> 00:25:33,882
And this is why I also said, if
we do an indefinite pause you

521
00:25:33,882 --> 00:25:36,132
know, my request is to
have public works go

522
00:25:36,132 --> 00:25:37,754
and take those three
cameras down tomorrow

523
00:25:37,754 --> 00:25:39,372
just to secure them.

524
00:25:39,372 --> 00:25:41,376
So now we could
charge for something.

525
00:25:41,376 --> 00:25:44,502
So somebody doesn't try to take
matters into their own hands.

526
00:25:44,502 --> 00:25:47,052
If we're not activated
And we want to make sure

527
00:25:47,052 --> 00:25:51,132
that community knew that we
are trying to stop everything.

528
00:25:51,132 --> 00:25:52,861
So we could have these
good conversations.

529
00:25:52,861 --> 00:25:54,882
OK So that's where
I'm at on this

530
00:25:54,882 --> 00:25:56,202
and I just want to
get some feedback.

531
00:25:56,202 --> 00:25:58,482
And so if there's
anything from the council

532
00:25:58,482 --> 00:26:02,335
that you want to add to that, to
just add one thing to that too,

533
00:26:02,335 --> 00:26:02,841
is.

534
00:26:02,841 --> 00:26:05,262
So for any helpers to be
added back into the system,

535
00:26:05,262 --> 00:26:06,612
as I think they've
stated, right?

536
00:26:06,612 --> 00:26:08,892
We just make sure it comes to
a council vote whether we hear

537
00:26:08,892 --> 00:26:09,732
or not right?

538
00:26:09,732 --> 00:26:12,672
So we appreciate the
approach that you've

539
00:26:12,672 --> 00:26:13,767
took this whole process.

540
00:26:13,767 --> 00:26:14,592
And I appreciate that.

541
00:26:14,592 --> 00:26:18,342
And I think we should just do
it the same way again I agree.

542
00:26:18,342 --> 00:26:19,567
I concur Yeah.

543
00:26:19,567 --> 00:26:22,032
The intent to put a pause
in this is not to, you know,

544
00:26:22,032 --> 00:26:26,142
somehow do a bait and switch and
put another Brandon, that's not

545
00:26:26,142 --> 00:26:30,342
what this is about at all I've
seen the word pressure used

546
00:26:30,342 --> 00:26:30,972
a couple of times.

547
00:26:30,972 --> 00:26:32,572
You don't have to pressure
us Just talk to us.

548
00:26:32,572 --> 00:26:33,072
Right.

549
00:26:33,072 --> 00:26:34,422
And that's what
you guys are doing

550
00:26:34,422 --> 00:26:37,794
And I can tell you, for me, I
won't speak for that, for you.

551
00:26:37,794 --> 00:26:40,032
But I appreciate
that that meant a lot

552
00:26:40,032 --> 00:26:41,382
more to just be able
to have these back

553
00:26:41,382 --> 00:26:42,354
and forth conversation.

554
00:26:42,354 --> 00:26:45,612
So and as I'm looking at
Thomas Jefferson in the back,

555
00:26:45,612 --> 00:26:47,952
I got to tell you guys
there was a survey

556
00:26:47,952 --> 00:26:50,112
sent to me with a $2
bill and the president

557
00:26:50,112 --> 00:26:51,141
is Thomas Jefferson.

558
00:26:51,141 --> 00:26:55,722
So I think that was
a sign right Exactly.

559
00:26:55,722 --> 00:26:58,812
Exactly Ashley, I don't
think it was a president

560
00:26:58,812 --> 00:27:00,162
read I don't think he made it.

561
00:27:00,162 --> 00:27:05,135
But anyway so those are kind
of my comments for council

562
00:27:05,135 --> 00:27:07,782
So any other otherwise.

563
00:27:07,782 --> 00:27:10,212
Jim I do like the
idea about, you know,

564
00:27:10,212 --> 00:27:12,792
going a step further and
saying that we don't you know,

565
00:27:12,792 --> 00:27:14,832
we will not install any
type of license plate

566
00:27:14,832 --> 00:27:16,212
reader for the
foreseeable future

567
00:27:16,212 --> 00:27:17,652
until we can get
more information.

568
00:27:17,652 --> 00:27:18,882
That's the motion
I'd like to make.

569
00:27:18,882 --> 00:27:20,496
Yeah You know, for the council.

570
00:27:20,496 --> 00:27:20,996
OK.

571
00:27:20,996 --> 00:27:22,545
Do you want to
state it the however

572
00:27:22,545 --> 00:27:23,412
you want to state it them.

573
00:27:23,412 --> 00:27:24,162
Yeah.

574
00:27:24,162 --> 00:27:26,002
If I can't.

575
00:27:26,002 --> 00:27:26,502
Yeah.

576
00:27:26,502 --> 00:27:30,382
So the actual
recommendation and so Yeah.

577
00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:35,052
So indefinitely i
just had refrained

578
00:27:35,052 --> 00:27:41,344
from insulation of flock
or any pertinent cameras.

579
00:27:41,344 --> 00:27:46,622
That's tied to, you know
the Alpers installation

580
00:27:46,622 --> 00:27:51,432
and end up okay The word
contracts not in here

581
00:27:51,432 --> 00:27:52,542
because we still
have to get more

582
00:27:52,542 --> 00:27:58,032
information The word removal
of the three are not in here.

583
00:27:58,032 --> 00:27:59,995
But I would like to say
you know, remove the three.

584
00:27:59,995 --> 00:28:01,920
You know you should have that.

585
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,957
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

586
00:28:02,957 --> 00:28:06,402
So remove the three either
by the public works at you.

587
00:28:06,402 --> 00:28:07,152
Thank you.

588
00:28:07,152 --> 00:28:13,932
And council Mr. Or the
removal This is contract and.

589
00:28:13,932 --> 00:28:14,472
Yeah.

590
00:28:14,472 --> 00:28:14,972
Right.

591
00:28:14,972 --> 00:28:18,942
So I want to be clear on this
the cameras are not the cities.

592
00:28:18,942 --> 00:28:23,862
Yeah This is a service contract
through for automated license

593
00:28:23,862 --> 00:28:26,022
plate reader through flock.

594
00:28:26,022 --> 00:28:31,242
They own the camera I guess I
would caution this council is

595
00:28:31,242 --> 00:28:37,002
request to have us remove them
as they use their own technology

596
00:28:37,002 --> 00:28:38,352
people to install them.

597
00:28:38,352 --> 00:28:40,272
We should request that
directly from them

598
00:28:40,272 --> 00:28:42,282
and have that expedited
as soon as we could

599
00:28:42,282 --> 00:28:48,305
We could table that until we
get information from flock

600
00:28:48,305 --> 00:28:52,452
through, through
chief Meyer correct.

601
00:28:52,452 --> 00:28:54,343
I wanted to give you the right.

602
00:28:54,343 --> 00:28:54,863
That's fine.

603
00:28:54,863 --> 00:28:57,702
You contractually you
can't we would have

604
00:28:57,702 --> 00:28:59,502
to have to then to move it.

605
00:28:59,502 --> 00:29:02,952
Chief, did you communicate that
to the flock in your email.

606
00:29:02,952 --> 00:29:07,432
So that, you know, we wanted the
3, 2 be taken down for now Yeah.

607
00:29:07,432 --> 00:29:07,932
Yep.

608
00:29:07,932 --> 00:29:09,063
That was one of the questions.

609
00:29:09,063 --> 00:29:09,386
OK.

610
00:29:09,386 --> 00:29:10,253
They could have responded.

611
00:29:10,253 --> 00:29:11,971
I'm at least out me
and they chose not to.

612
00:29:11,971 --> 00:29:15,372
I would like to have the three
cameras removed and number one,

613
00:29:15,372 --> 00:29:16,002
to secure them.

614
00:29:16,002 --> 00:29:18,222
Right to make sure
they don't get damaged

615
00:29:18,222 --> 00:29:20,022
But number two, to show the
other community that we're

616
00:29:20,022 --> 00:29:23,562
serious enough in what
we're saying in our intent

617
00:29:23,562 --> 00:29:24,762
We're not damaging anything.

618
00:29:24,762 --> 00:29:27,342
We're just removing them
and securing them for flock

619
00:29:27,342 --> 00:29:29,625
to take that understood Yeah.

620
00:29:29,625 --> 00:29:30,762
Yeah.

621
00:29:30,762 --> 00:29:38,562
You're on That's
fine I just wanted

622
00:29:38,562 --> 00:29:40,992
to share the contract
language if I can continue

623
00:29:40,992 --> 00:29:42,502
to add that that makes sense.

624
00:29:42,502 --> 00:29:43,002
Please.

625
00:29:43,002 --> 00:29:44,292
I would ask again.

626
00:29:44,292 --> 00:29:45,372
Yep.

627
00:29:45,372 --> 00:29:46,362
So yeah.

628
00:29:46,362 --> 00:29:50,742
And then remove the
three cameras You know,

629
00:29:50,742 --> 00:29:53,538
immediately remove a
secure public area.

630
00:29:53,538 --> 00:29:54,102
Yeah.

631
00:29:54,102 --> 00:29:54,702
Yeah.

632
00:29:54,702 --> 00:29:56,263
Remove secure I agree.

633
00:29:56,263 --> 00:30:00,072
That's my motion All
right, have a second.

634
00:30:00,072 --> 00:30:00,680
I'll second.

635
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,180
OK.

636
00:30:01,180 --> 00:30:01,845
All right.

637
00:30:01,845 --> 00:30:03,592
Any questions before we vote ?

638
00:30:03,592 --> 00:30:04,092
All right.

639
00:30:04,092 --> 00:30:04,592
All in favor.

640
00:30:04,592 --> 00:30:09,682
Signify by saying I, I any
opposed ask unanimously.

641
00:30:09,682 --> 00:30:10,182
All right.

642
00:30:10,182 --> 00:30:12,282
Thank you, everybody
Appreciate that.

643
00:30:12,282 --> 00:30:14,922
And we'll have more
information coming

644
00:30:14,922 --> 00:30:20,202
hopefully by the next
council meeting All right.

645
00:30:20,202 --> 00:30:22,182
So we can move on to
the next item, which

646
00:30:22,182 --> 00:30:24,398
is Nine B, and that's
to consider approval

647
00:30:24,398 --> 00:30:27,192
of a proposal from WSP for
mitigation of trees affected

648
00:30:27,192 --> 00:30:29,622
by emerald ash borer
So, Matthew, i think

649
00:30:29,622 --> 00:30:30,562
you're taking this one off.

650
00:30:30,562 --> 00:30:31,062
Yes, sir.

651
00:30:31,062 --> 00:30:34,512
Thank you very much, Mayor
and council We are we

652
00:30:34,512 --> 00:30:39,162
have received a proposal to do
a forestry count of ash trees

653
00:30:39,162 --> 00:30:43,632
in our community We are facing
a significant public safety

654
00:30:43,632 --> 00:30:48,582
risk for all of the the dead
and dying emerald ash trees

655
00:30:48,582 --> 00:30:53,291
due to the emerald ash borer We
have had consultation with WSP

656
00:30:53,291 --> 00:30:55,842
is forestry program
manager Emily Ball.

657
00:30:55,842 --> 00:30:58,512
It's been determined that
the city should probably

658
00:30:58,512 --> 00:31:00,072
move forward with some
sort of mitigation

659
00:31:00,072 --> 00:31:02,352
to help getting out in
front of the removal of some

660
00:31:02,352 --> 00:31:05,172
of these trees, specifically
those in the high traffic

661
00:31:05,172 --> 00:31:11,082
areas Minnesota DNR has a rapid
assessment process that they do,

662
00:31:11,082 --> 00:31:14,022
which is essentially a drive by
where they do counts of trees

663
00:31:14,022 --> 00:31:17,562
and front yards in public
spaces, parks and such

664
00:31:17,562 --> 00:31:21,642
not in forested areas just
in mowed areas They estimate

665
00:31:21,642 --> 00:31:24,072
that there are 2700 ash
trees in our community

666
00:31:24,072 --> 00:31:25,992
and front and side
yards of homes

667
00:31:25,992 --> 00:31:27,620
and in public right of ways.

668
00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:30,162
And parks.

669
00:31:30,162 --> 00:31:32,982
Many of these trees
are are either

670
00:31:32,982 --> 00:31:37,302
dying or are already dead.

671
00:31:37,302 --> 00:31:39,012
We are working with them.

672
00:31:39,012 --> 00:31:44,562
We receive a proposal from
WSP to to provide the city

673
00:31:44,562 --> 00:31:46,932
with the data and the
tools necessary to manage

674
00:31:46,932 --> 00:31:50,262
the emerald ash borer
infestation effectively.

675
00:31:50,262 --> 00:31:52,932
Some of the things that this
proposal is going to provide

676
00:31:52,932 --> 00:31:56,593
is give us based information.

677
00:31:56,593 --> 00:31:58,242
So what they'll
be mapped, they'll

678
00:31:58,242 --> 00:32:00,582
be identified as the location.

679
00:32:00,582 --> 00:32:03,912
Those trees will then
be rated in regards

680
00:32:03,912 --> 00:32:06,017
to how healthy they are.

681
00:32:06,017 --> 00:32:09,732
So we can prioritize the ones
that need to come out first.

682
00:32:09,732 --> 00:32:13,062
All of this information would
then be cumulative evilly placed

683
00:32:13,062 --> 00:32:15,822
in a removal package
based on the information

684
00:32:15,822 --> 00:32:18,402
that we need to
require going forward.

685
00:32:18,402 --> 00:32:21,432
This information is also
very valuable for any grant

686
00:32:21,432 --> 00:32:24,432
writing that we might
do Unfortunately,

687
00:32:24,432 --> 00:32:27,222
there aren't any DNR grant
opportunities out there

688
00:32:27,222 --> 00:32:31,532
for this right now is we're
outside of the metro area

689
00:32:31,532 --> 00:32:34,392
The Mac Council has quite
a few in their region,

690
00:32:34,392 --> 00:32:36,384
but we're outside of that.

691
00:32:36,384 --> 00:32:38,448
A one did just open up.

692
00:32:38,448 --> 00:32:40,632
That's going to be
opened in October

693
00:32:40,632 --> 00:32:43,122
of this year from
the environment

694
00:32:43,122 --> 00:32:47,052
and natural resources trust fund
that has the goal of reducing

695
00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:51,672
emerald ash borer impacts and
it does include under their list

696
00:32:51,672 --> 00:32:53,862
of services removal.

697
00:32:53,862 --> 00:32:55,812
So that's an important
aspect to that.

698
00:32:55,812 --> 00:32:58,092
One, Having this completed
inventory in hand

699
00:32:58,092 --> 00:33:04,482
would give us a better chance of
being considered as a candidate

700
00:33:04,482 --> 00:33:12,222
and receiving money for the
removal of some of the more

701
00:33:12,222 --> 00:33:24,042
dangerous trees that we have in
our community We also have we're

702
00:33:24,042 --> 00:33:25,752
having a budget
discussion today.

703
00:33:25,752 --> 00:33:29,444
We don't have any funding in
the budget for Emerald ash,

704
00:33:29,444 --> 00:33:31,872
for damaged trees in
our budget right now.

705
00:33:31,872 --> 00:33:33,012
And that's something
that we also

706
00:33:33,012 --> 00:33:37,182
need to consider going forward
is as we look down even Elm

707
00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:39,342
Street right here,
we've got 27 of them

708
00:33:39,342 --> 00:33:40,842
that are damaged or dying.

709
00:33:40,842 --> 00:33:46,362
And in our in our city approval
of this proposal we'll provide

710
00:33:46,362 --> 00:33:49,032
the city with data driven
roadmap for managing

711
00:33:49,032 --> 00:33:52,362
our urban forest identifying
the priority one trees that need

712
00:33:52,362 --> 00:33:57,732
to come down and the funding
of this proposed bill

713
00:33:57,732 --> 00:33:59,802
We can use there's a couple
of different options.

714
00:33:59,802 --> 00:34:01,902
We can reallocate some
funding from different areas

715
00:34:01,902 --> 00:34:03,912
within the Public
Works department,

716
00:34:03,912 --> 00:34:06,972
or we can utilize as
this is right away

717
00:34:06,972 --> 00:34:10,662
and green space question we
can utilize some of the newly

718
00:34:10,662 --> 00:34:13,512
established gambling proceeds
to cover the cost of this

719
00:34:13,512 --> 00:34:14,952
as well, which
starts next quarter.

720
00:34:14,952 --> 00:34:17,742
So that's the background on it.

721
00:34:17,742 --> 00:34:21,194
I'm open to any questions The
proposal is in your packet.

722
00:34:21,194 --> 00:34:23,112
The recommend is
that the city approve

723
00:34:23,112 --> 00:34:27,912
the proposal from us to
conduct an emerald ash borer

724
00:34:27,912 --> 00:34:28,872
tree inventory.

725
00:34:28,872 --> 00:34:32,142
Sorry, this initiative is
essential for identifying high

726
00:34:32,142 --> 00:34:35,352
risk ash trees and public
property and developing

727
00:34:35,352 --> 00:34:41,262
a structured mitigation and
removal plan The total for this

728
00:34:41,262 --> 00:34:44,682
study, which would incur about
two months work over four

729
00:34:44,682 --> 00:34:48,432
people, would be about $34,000.

730
00:34:48,432 --> 00:34:55,602
$34,245 to be exact I'm open to
any questions if you have them.

731
00:34:55,602 --> 00:34:56,345
So just clarify.

732
00:34:56,345 --> 00:34:57,672
The recommendation
is for the tree

733
00:34:57,672 --> 00:34:59,232
inventory plus
the tree inventory

734
00:34:59,232 --> 00:35:01,452
analysis, mapping and bids.

735
00:35:01,452 --> 00:35:02,172
Yes sir.

736
00:35:02,172 --> 00:35:03,432
So that'll put
everything together

737
00:35:03,432 --> 00:35:07,482
so we can do grant writing
right away Mr. Hill,

738
00:35:07,482 --> 00:35:10,302
does this also include
private property, which

739
00:35:10,302 --> 00:35:13,992
just does not This is
simply public property,

740
00:35:13,992 --> 00:35:15,612
meaning right of ways.

741
00:35:15,612 --> 00:35:19,692
Boulevards trees within
boulevards, along streets parks.

742
00:35:19,692 --> 00:35:20,202
Okay.

743
00:35:20,202 --> 00:35:22,400
And the last just I just
want to make that clear Not

744
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,176
private property.

745
00:35:23,176 --> 00:35:23,694
OK.

746
00:35:23,694 --> 00:35:24,802
And great question.

747
00:35:24,802 --> 00:35:25,302
Thank you.

748
00:35:25,302 --> 00:35:28,122
Do we know who will
do the removal it

749
00:35:28,122 --> 00:35:31,362
once once this project's
done with the inventory,

750
00:35:31,362 --> 00:35:33,312
we would then be able
to do some fundraising

751
00:35:33,312 --> 00:35:35,022
and grant writing
to get the funding

752
00:35:35,022 --> 00:35:36,372
required to do the removal.

753
00:35:36,372 --> 00:35:38,982
And once that removal
funding is secured,

754
00:35:38,982 --> 00:35:41,875
we would then be able to go
out to bid for that project OK.

755
00:35:41,875 --> 00:35:42,595
So I want to.

756
00:35:42,595 --> 00:35:43,315
Okay, Thank you.

757
00:35:43,315 --> 00:35:47,772
Thank you But the
34,000 is just right.

758
00:35:47,772 --> 00:35:51,492
Identify you.

759
00:35:51,492 --> 00:35:54,762
The county Where do
the counts put it in us

760
00:35:54,762 --> 00:35:56,727
and have that priority
level of the trees.

761
00:35:56,727 --> 00:35:58,047
So we know which
ones are the worst

762
00:35:58,047 --> 00:36:00,612
and we can just pull it
up on the on the chart

763
00:36:00,612 --> 00:36:04,962
and we'd be able to identify
and put those level one trees.

764
00:36:04,962 --> 00:36:09,882
The priorities out of it
as soon as possible Okay.

765
00:36:09,882 --> 00:36:14,382
So Matthew, that's just up to
1,500 trees, right Potential?

766
00:36:14,382 --> 00:36:15,822
That's correct Okay.

767
00:36:15,822 --> 00:36:17,756
But we don't know
the actual number.

768
00:36:17,756 --> 00:36:20,376
But that the max is
1,500 for this agreement.

769
00:36:20,376 --> 00:36:20,900
OK.

770
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:24,339
So i talked to you about
this was the last week,

771
00:36:24,339 --> 00:36:26,738
you mentioned DNR to give
some type of estimate

772
00:36:26,738 --> 00:36:28,722
that we think there's
more than 2000.

773
00:36:28,722 --> 00:36:32,472
There are the DNR did a rapid
assessment, which is their drive

774
00:36:32,472 --> 00:36:35,262
by of the streets
in our community

775
00:36:35,262 --> 00:36:37,962
And they've identified
2700 and that's

776
00:36:37,962 --> 00:36:41,742
in people's front yards, private
property side yards as well.

777
00:36:41,742 --> 00:36:46,752
So that's public and private
We are estimating 1500,

778
00:36:46,752 --> 00:36:50,443
but we won't know until the
surveys completed roughly 60%.

779
00:36:50,443 --> 00:36:52,362
Yes.

780
00:36:52,362 --> 00:36:54,732
And then we don't have any idea
of how much is going to cost

781
00:36:54,732 --> 00:36:57,372
per tree to take
them down There's

782
00:36:57,372 --> 00:36:59,112
different levels of
removal, of course,

783
00:36:59,112 --> 00:37:01,932
depending upon how badly
damaged or if they're

784
00:37:01,932 --> 00:37:03,162
really brittle and dry.

785
00:37:03,162 --> 00:37:04,092
You can't even sell them.

786
00:37:04,092 --> 00:37:05,682
You have to take them
down them by limb,

787
00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:08,772
otherwise they'll just fall over
and explode and cause damage

788
00:37:08,772 --> 00:37:13,782
to the surrounding property
All the other aspect of it

789
00:37:13,782 --> 00:37:17,682
is, do we take the stumps
up So that's an obviously

790
00:37:17,682 --> 00:37:19,662
an extra cost for that as well.

791
00:37:19,662 --> 00:37:23,382
If it's public safety that
we're mostly in and want

792
00:37:23,382 --> 00:37:25,736
to enforce right away,
if the tree is out,

793
00:37:25,736 --> 00:37:26,946
we'll address the stumps later.

794
00:37:26,946 --> 00:37:30,312
We can rent a stump grinder and
have a wood public works do it

795
00:37:30,312 --> 00:37:39,132
over time when time
allows OK So obviously,

796
00:37:39,132 --> 00:37:40,752
the recommendation
is approve this.

797
00:37:40,752 --> 00:37:44,275
But then so I'm just trying
to go back and determine,

798
00:37:44,275 --> 00:37:45,747
do we know where this
money's coming from?

799
00:37:45,747 --> 00:37:46,247
The other.

800
00:37:46,247 --> 00:37:48,582
We're still trying to
make that determination.

801
00:37:48,582 --> 00:37:52,542
It is You want to address
that a little more closely?

802
00:37:52,542 --> 00:37:54,342
I did provide a couple
of different options.

803
00:37:54,342 --> 00:37:57,942
We do have the established
gambling ordinance

804
00:37:57,942 --> 00:37:59,142
proceeds as it starts.

805
00:37:59,142 --> 00:38:01,781
We'll have that over
for the first batch.

806
00:38:01,781 --> 00:38:03,342
And we don't know what
the amounts are yet.

807
00:38:03,342 --> 00:38:06,348
We've got the policies that
we're working on right now

808
00:38:06,348 --> 00:38:10,572
and working with those those
agencies, and that process.

809
00:38:10,572 --> 00:38:15,102
But and then there is in
discussion with the finance

810
00:38:15,102 --> 00:38:18,012
director opportunities to
reallocate some funding

811
00:38:18,012 --> 00:38:19,302
within the Public
Works Department

812
00:38:19,302 --> 00:38:24,470
over the course of
this I think I'd

813
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:26,303
like better direction of
where the money's coming from.

814
00:38:26,303 --> 00:38:29,592
Before we approve it and agree.

815
00:38:29,592 --> 00:38:31,479
If you need more time
to think about it

816
00:38:31,479 --> 00:38:33,522
or whatever the next meeting
or next couple of meetings.

817
00:38:33,522 --> 00:38:36,372
But you know, instead of just
proving it, not knowing where

818
00:38:36,372 --> 00:38:39,942
the funds are coming from, I'd
rather have some type of a plan

819
00:38:39,942 --> 00:38:47,622
Well, we were looking at if we
can't come up with enough to do

820
00:38:47,622 --> 00:38:49,752
the work, I reorganize things.

821
00:38:49,752 --> 00:38:55,332
Some of the expenses
prioritizing what needs to be

822
00:38:55,332 --> 00:38:56,982
done versus what can wait.

823
00:38:56,982 --> 00:39:01,842
Another year If that
can't generate enough.

824
00:39:01,842 --> 00:39:06,042
We were looking at the
possible gambling proceeds

825
00:39:06,042 --> 00:39:08,472
to help with that.

826
00:39:08,472 --> 00:39:14,022
And those should be coming in.

827
00:39:14,022 --> 00:39:18,792
I think our First payment
October is October

828
00:39:18,792 --> 00:39:21,192
and then we'll have
another in December.

829
00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:26,382
And so that revenue would be
available and is at this point

830
00:39:26,382 --> 00:39:33,582
unencumbered So the any comments
on where the money's coming

831
00:39:33,582 --> 00:39:36,132
from, I'm concerned about
losing the opportunity

832
00:39:36,132 --> 00:39:37,902
for grant funding for travel.

833
00:39:37,902 --> 00:39:40,362
Well, okay.

834
00:39:40,362 --> 00:39:42,207
Is there an estimation
on what that car.

835
00:39:42,207 --> 00:39:44,192
I mean, again, we're
dealing with hypotheticals

836
00:39:44,192 --> 00:39:47,656
based on how many trees in
the state is of those trees.

837
00:39:47,656 --> 00:39:50,742
I mean, is there an estimation
on what removal of the they

838
00:39:50,742 --> 00:39:54,642
estimated $1,000 per tree and
that did include the removal

839
00:39:54,642 --> 00:39:57,432
of the stumps Oh, such.

840
00:39:57,432 --> 00:39:59,742
And that's if it's 1.5 million.

841
00:39:59,742 --> 00:40:01,572
Yeah.

842
00:40:01,572 --> 00:40:07,632
If it's all that volume got
to go So you're saying 33,000

843
00:40:07,632 --> 00:40:10,222
and finding that is a lot
different than 1.5 so that

844
00:40:10,222 --> 00:40:12,128
we can get some grant money.

845
00:40:12,128 --> 00:40:15,042
That's a big part of
solving that problem.

846
00:40:15,042 --> 00:40:18,102
But the DNR did say that
there's no current grant,

847
00:40:18,102 --> 00:40:21,792
but that doesn't mean that or
is that what is on the DNR does

848
00:40:21,792 --> 00:40:23,022
not have any current grants.

849
00:40:23,022 --> 00:40:27,342
The only grant opportunity is
opens on October 20 to 2026

850
00:40:27,342 --> 00:40:28,872
from the environmental
and natural

851
00:40:28,872 --> 00:40:32,322
Resources Trust Fund,
which they're specifically

852
00:40:32,322 --> 00:40:33,999
put in place for the year.

853
00:40:33,999 --> 00:40:37,842
OK So there is opportunities for
US Council Movability or point

854
00:40:37,842 --> 00:40:38,802
if we're on this.

855
00:40:38,802 --> 00:40:41,832
And I think the timeline
at a prior October right?

856
00:40:41,832 --> 00:40:45,402
That's correct October it
does line up really well

857
00:40:45,402 --> 00:40:49,062
with that grant
deadline or timeline

858
00:40:49,062 --> 00:40:50,772
Are you saying like
to reappropriate

859
00:40:50,772 --> 00:40:54,982
money from 2026 to do this
through this work study.

860
00:40:54,982 --> 00:40:55,482
Now?

861
00:40:55,482 --> 00:41:00,522
Yeah And then see what that
how many there are what

862
00:41:00,522 --> 00:41:03,492
the potential costs would be
correct and get those things

863
00:41:03,492 --> 00:41:07,722
you know get something
out for bid this year

864
00:41:07,722 --> 00:41:10,876
and then parallel see what.

865
00:41:10,876 --> 00:41:15,552
So we say it's been spent 32,000
in hopes of getting a grant.

866
00:41:15,552 --> 00:41:18,852
Well, if they need to we
need the data either way.

867
00:41:18,852 --> 00:41:19,962
Correct we do.

868
00:41:19,962 --> 00:41:22,272
This helps us be
prepared for the grant

869
00:41:22,272 --> 00:41:25,002
and have a better opportunity
of writing a better grant,

870
00:41:25,002 --> 00:41:28,662
coming back so
that we're serious.

871
00:41:28,662 --> 00:41:29,352
I would be, yes.

872
00:41:29,352 --> 00:41:33,132
And I think i'd be embarrassed
to see if direct city

873
00:41:33,132 --> 00:41:35,292
staff to write a grant
application based

874
00:41:35,292 --> 00:41:38,652
on drive by estimations
from the DIA I agree.

875
00:41:38,652 --> 00:41:39,253
Yeah.

876
00:41:39,253 --> 00:41:41,922
This is so that is
private property.

877
00:41:41,922 --> 00:41:47,232
I think, if sharon's
recommendation is or are

878
00:41:47,232 --> 00:41:49,152
recommending to Sharon,
based on what she said,

879
00:41:49,152 --> 00:41:51,432
is to say ask public
works to, you know,

880
00:41:51,432 --> 00:41:53,802
identify projects that
potentially could get pushed

881
00:41:53,802 --> 00:41:57,762
to 27 and then utilize
the unencumbered

882
00:41:57,762 --> 00:42:02,592
funds from the gambling proceeds
that start in October to put

883
00:42:02,592 --> 00:42:04,152
towards this 32.

884
00:42:04,152 --> 00:42:09,312
I'm okay with that There is
a few things listed in here

885
00:42:09,312 --> 00:42:11,022
for grant writing projects.

886
00:42:11,022 --> 00:42:13,747
4 or 5 and 6 is
just saying the WSP

887
00:42:13,747 --> 00:42:16,422
has helped get these awarded.

888
00:42:16,422 --> 00:42:18,612
Is that the way I'm
understanding this?

889
00:42:18,612 --> 00:42:23,532
There's a $500,000 grant and
Brooklyn Park amount of media

890
00:42:23,532 --> 00:42:25,876
and then right county Yeah.

891
00:42:25,876 --> 00:42:31,902
What that means okay if
you look on page six.

892
00:42:31,902 --> 00:42:35,802
Yes it's relevant project
experience is how that's titled.

893
00:42:35,802 --> 00:42:37,422
So there are different
projects that they

894
00:42:37,422 --> 00:42:44,961
have worked on and grant writing
and inventories All right.

895
00:42:44,961 --> 00:42:47,172
And we don't know about
this pot of money,

896
00:42:47,172 --> 00:42:52,302
but a few cities or counties
have gotten half $1 million.

897
00:42:52,302 --> 00:42:53,652
I got 125.

898
00:42:53,652 --> 00:42:57,972
Do we have any idea of what the
maximum amount is for the grant

899
00:42:57,972 --> 00:43:01,212
through this agency
that the grant

900
00:43:01,212 --> 00:43:03,042
opportunity opens in October?

901
00:43:03,042 --> 00:43:05,172
We don't know the specific Okay.

902
00:43:05,172 --> 00:43:07,122
And we wouldn't really know
how much we need either

903
00:43:07,122 --> 00:43:08,652
based on the health trees.

904
00:43:08,652 --> 00:43:10,543
You wouldn't take them all
out for no reason, right?

905
00:43:10,543 --> 00:43:13,542
They'd have to be right Yeah.

906
00:43:13,542 --> 00:43:17,425
This is safety
hazard I think of.

907
00:43:17,425 --> 00:43:21,372
They need to identify
what trees and how many

908
00:43:21,372 --> 00:43:24,072
that that needs to
start around quickly.

909
00:43:24,072 --> 00:43:24,852
Yeah right.

910
00:43:24,852 --> 00:43:26,232
So Heidi from me.

911
00:43:26,232 --> 00:43:27,919
Yeah Mr. Mayor and
council members,

912
00:43:27,919 --> 00:43:30,412
I just wanted to note that I
spoke with our forestry program

913
00:43:30,412 --> 00:43:31,952
manager, and she
did mention there

914
00:43:31,952 --> 00:43:34,992
are some particular
criteria that North Branch

915
00:43:34,992 --> 00:43:37,242
that raises North
branch's eligibility

916
00:43:37,242 --> 00:43:38,323
for some of these grants.

917
00:43:38,323 --> 00:43:43,392
I don't recall this specific
but there is some pieces of data

918
00:43:43,392 --> 00:43:45,762
that have to do with North
Branch that would put you

919
00:43:45,762 --> 00:43:48,192
in a better position for
getting some of this grant money

920
00:43:48,192 --> 00:43:52,902
through this particular
program or provides leverage.

921
00:43:52,902 --> 00:43:55,842
You're saying is it
providing leverage because

922
00:43:55,842 --> 00:43:59,172
of this additional information
that we have that that North

923
00:43:59,172 --> 00:44:03,462
Branch is specifically
involved in what it sounds

924
00:44:03,462 --> 00:44:06,192
like a priority
Yeah, it just there's

925
00:44:06,192 --> 00:44:09,882
in this particular money,
there's criteria for which north

926
00:44:09,882 --> 00:44:12,778
Branch would rank highly
compared to others that would be

927
00:44:12,778 --> 00:44:17,022
in okay, having this additional
information will improve

928
00:44:17,022 --> 00:44:19,452
your likelihood of
being more competitive

929
00:44:19,452 --> 00:44:20,485
and getting that grant funding.

930
00:44:20,485 --> 00:44:20,985
Okay.

931
00:44:20,985 --> 00:44:21,555
Thank you.

932
00:44:21,555 --> 00:44:22,055
Thanks.

933
00:44:22,055 --> 00:44:27,042
For the clarification All right.

934
00:44:27,042 --> 00:44:30,192
I mean, I'm good at moving
forward I would like a better

935
00:44:30,192 --> 00:44:34,062
direction on how we're
funded this next meeting

936
00:44:34,062 --> 00:44:39,192
should so make a
motion to approve

937
00:44:39,192 --> 00:44:41,908
second, third or the second.

938
00:44:41,908 --> 00:44:45,912
Any questions Do we want do you
want any more formal direction

939
00:44:45,912 --> 00:44:48,732
on the funding or are
you comfortable with what

940
00:44:48,732 --> 00:44:53,622
we've talked about and going
forward that way we can share?

941
00:44:53,622 --> 00:44:56,892
Yeah I apologize.

942
00:44:56,892 --> 00:44:59,382
I think we can I can
work with the department

943
00:44:59,382 --> 00:45:09,102
and find some opportunities that
we can postpone or work through

944
00:45:09,102 --> 00:45:13,272
to get the priorities
reestablished That's not

945
00:45:13,272 --> 00:45:17,159
an uncommon thing And we can
report back to the Council

946
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:17,892
with that information.

947
00:45:17,892 --> 00:45:19,596
I and I'm okay with that.

948
00:45:19,596 --> 00:45:20,532
I feel confident.

949
00:45:20,532 --> 00:45:23,733
You always seem to find the cash
in the couch cushion somehow

950
00:45:23,733 --> 00:45:26,070
But it would be nice to
know where it's coming from.

951
00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:26,570
Sure.

952
00:45:26,570 --> 00:45:27,070
OK.

953
00:45:27,070 --> 00:45:27,598
Rob's here.

954
00:45:27,598 --> 00:45:28,214
All right.

955
00:45:28,214 --> 00:45:29,494
So have a first and second.

956
00:45:29,494 --> 00:45:30,273
Any of other questions?

957
00:45:30,273 --> 00:45:30,773
No.

958
00:45:30,773 --> 00:45:31,321
All right.

959
00:45:31,321 --> 00:45:35,382
All in favor Signify by
saying I. I any opposed.

960
00:45:35,382 --> 00:45:40,092
That's unanimously All right.

961
00:45:40,092 --> 00:45:43,718
Northwest Old Town project
Revised scope cost estimates.

962
00:45:43,718 --> 00:45:46,782
So Heidi from WB I think
you're kicking this off.

963
00:45:46,782 --> 00:45:48,305
Yes good evening mayor
and council members

964
00:45:48,305 --> 00:45:51,312
yes we're here to talk again
about northwest old town.

965
00:45:51,312 --> 00:45:54,437
At the last meeting you had
asked for a revised cost

966
00:45:54,437 --> 00:45:56,682
estimate looking at what
we call that we termed out

967
00:45:56,682 --> 00:45:59,682
bare bones project We recognize
that there seems to be

968
00:45:59,682 --> 00:46:02,607
common agreement that there is a
need to improve the water mains.

969
00:46:02,607 --> 00:46:04,512
And so we did put
together that cost

970
00:46:04,512 --> 00:46:07,812
estimate as you can see in the
report, it's about 2.2 million.

971
00:46:07,812 --> 00:46:10,932
I'd like to walk through some of
the specifics of what was what

972
00:46:10,932 --> 00:46:15,792
we based that on and why we made
that recommendation Currently

973
00:46:15,792 --> 00:46:21,642
in cedar Street, there is three
blocks of 4 inch water main

974
00:46:21,642 --> 00:46:23,892
and so this water main
replacement would upgrade

975
00:46:23,892 --> 00:46:26,534
that four inch water main
from a four inch main

976
00:46:26,534 --> 00:46:29,172
to a ten inch main.

977
00:46:29,172 --> 00:46:30,750
Then in 11th Avenue.

978
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:35,352
And 10th Avenue, we currently
have a dead end, six inch water

979
00:46:35,352 --> 00:46:37,542
main in each of those roads.

980
00:46:37,542 --> 00:46:40,055
And so this project
would replace those that

981
00:46:40,055 --> 00:46:43,692
ends with 8 inch water means
that connect between Cedar

982
00:46:43,692 --> 00:46:48,582
and Elm Street and then lastly,
currently in Elm Street,

983
00:46:48,582 --> 00:46:52,415
we have half of the half of the
length between eighth Avenue.

984
00:46:52,415 --> 00:46:54,732
And 12th Avenue is
a four inch main,

985
00:46:54,732 --> 00:46:57,912
and half of it is a six inch
main and that would all be

986
00:46:57,912 --> 00:46:59,730
replaced with an 8 inch main.

987
00:46:59,730 --> 00:47:02,065
And just to give
you a sense, there

988
00:47:02,065 --> 00:47:04,902
was some questions last
time about low flow

989
00:47:04,902 --> 00:47:06,072
in the in the water mains.

990
00:47:06,072 --> 00:47:09,672
So typical fire or maximum
flow out of a four inch pipe

991
00:47:09,672 --> 00:47:12,522
is about 500 gallons per minute.

992
00:47:12,522 --> 00:47:16,992
If you bump up to a six inch
pipe, it's 800 to 1,000 GPM.

993
00:47:16,992 --> 00:47:21,102
Eight inch pipe is about 2000
and a ten inches, about 3,000.

994
00:47:21,102 --> 00:47:25,212
So you can see that this would
make a substantial difference

995
00:47:25,212 --> 00:47:27,792
in the amount of water flow
that would be of vailable

996
00:47:27,792 --> 00:47:30,552
in this network of
blocks So we focused

997
00:47:30,552 --> 00:47:34,647
on that nine blocks of water
mean, we would replace that.

998
00:47:34,647 --> 00:47:38,202
And then since the water main
replacement disrupts so much

999
00:47:38,202 --> 00:47:40,062
of the pavement, we
went ahead and priced

1000
00:47:40,062 --> 00:47:43,302
out a full pavement replacement
that we would mill off.

1001
00:47:43,302 --> 00:47:45,315
We would, you know dig out
the water main mill off all

1002
00:47:45,315 --> 00:47:48,132
of the pavement do a full
replacement because it's

1003
00:47:48,132 --> 00:47:51,312
a utility driven project It
doesn't trigger the stormwater

1004
00:47:51,312 --> 00:47:53,892
requirements that the
bigger project required

1005
00:47:53,892 --> 00:47:56,607
And so we would just replace
pavement exact lee in,

1006
00:47:56,607 --> 00:47:58,657
you know in the width
that it is today.

1007
00:47:58,657 --> 00:48:00,942
There would be no storm
water improvements.

1008
00:48:00,942 --> 00:48:04,146
We would not put any storm
sewer in And then additionally

1009
00:48:04,146 --> 00:48:08,622
actually, I know that's that the
130,900 that's the full sanitary

1010
00:48:08,622 --> 00:48:10,302
sewer rehab spot lining.

1011
00:48:10,302 --> 00:48:11,112
And things.

1012
00:48:11,112 --> 00:48:15,072
If we just focus on repairing
the pieces that need to be dug

1013
00:48:15,072 --> 00:48:16,917
up, there's only
a few spots that

1014
00:48:16,917 --> 00:48:21,365
had some broken pipes someplace
that drops down to about 45,000.

1015
00:48:21,365 --> 00:48:25,602
So that total project cost, if
we really just focus on the nine

1016
00:48:25,602 --> 00:48:28,380
blocks where the water
main is substandard

1017
00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:31,800
and it gets down to around
2.1 million for that.

1018
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,562
And could easily be funded
or get out of the water fund

1019
00:48:35,562 --> 00:48:38,322
and various other funds
that we could put a funding

1020
00:48:38,322 --> 00:48:41,022
plan together and return
should the council want

1021
00:48:41,022 --> 00:48:44,682
to go that route So
I'm happy to answer

1022
00:48:44,682 --> 00:48:46,242
any questions
about that proposal

1023
00:48:46,242 --> 00:48:47,952
or the original proposal.

1024
00:48:47,952 --> 00:48:48,492
I think as.

1025
00:48:48,492 --> 00:48:48,992
Matthew.

1026
00:48:48,992 --> 00:48:52,302
Go ahead, Matthew
Mayor Mayor, if I may,

1027
00:48:52,302 --> 00:48:55,482
I do want to talk about
some financial implications

1028
00:48:55,482 --> 00:48:57,222
of reducing that scope.

1029
00:48:57,222 --> 00:48:59,562
We have a couple
of parts of money

1030
00:48:59,562 --> 00:49:02,262
that were dedicated towards
this project that could be real

1031
00:49:02,262 --> 00:49:05,862
out reallocated to different
projects One of them

1032
00:49:05,862 --> 00:49:11,472
is the MSI funding the
Minnesota State Aid by removing

1033
00:49:11,472 --> 00:49:13,212
and reducing the
scope of the project

1034
00:49:13,212 --> 00:49:17,442
to that 2.2 approximate
number 2.2 million.

1035
00:49:17,442 --> 00:49:19,675
We would not need to
utilize the MSA funding.

1036
00:49:19,675 --> 00:49:23,292
So that $1.4 million of
dedicated MSA funding

1037
00:49:23,292 --> 00:49:25,621
for this project would be
able to be reallocate it

1038
00:49:25,621 --> 00:49:29,082
into different parts of our
community that has on our needs

1039
00:49:29,082 --> 00:49:32,227
basis where we could address
that sooner than expected.

1040
00:49:32,227 --> 00:49:36,432
The other one was the, the
restore related funds that we

1041
00:49:36,432 --> 00:49:39,374
had from the sale of
the generation that 1.8,

1042
00:49:39,374 --> 00:49:43,182
approximately million dollars
that was set aside specifically

1043
00:49:43,182 --> 00:49:53,682
for this project we would use
approximately $1 million towards

1044
00:49:53,682 --> 00:49:56,922
this project from that
releasing $800,000 that

1045
00:49:56,922 --> 00:50:00,132
the city and the city
council could reallocate

1046
00:50:00,132 --> 00:50:01,122
that additional money.

1047
00:50:01,122 --> 00:50:05,232
Currently designed
for this project,

1048
00:50:05,232 --> 00:50:07,752
specifically if we
do reduce the scope,

1049
00:50:07,752 --> 00:50:09,282
that funding could
be reallocated

1050
00:50:09,282 --> 00:50:11,262
to different projects as well.

1051
00:50:11,262 --> 00:50:15,462
A couple of those things just
off the top of my head and we've

1052
00:50:15,462 --> 00:50:17,922
been up my head, we've been
discussing this for weeks,

1053
00:50:17,922 --> 00:50:19,332
but let's be realistic here.

1054
00:50:19,332 --> 00:50:24,612
Matthew Flank Avenue trail, we
did get some bids back for that.

1055
00:50:24,612 --> 00:50:25,643
Bids are a little bit higher.

1056
00:50:25,643 --> 00:50:27,942
We we wouldn't we
need a little bit more

1057
00:50:27,942 --> 00:50:30,702
funding to cover the costs and
complete that trail connection.

1058
00:50:30,702 --> 00:50:32,682
That's a priority for us.

1059
00:50:32,682 --> 00:50:34,902
The other thing is
the 400th and flank

1060
00:50:34,902 --> 00:50:40,152
roundabout turn up on northbound
on flank at 400th Street.

1061
00:50:40,152 --> 00:50:41,832
We've got the new
developments up there.

1062
00:50:41,832 --> 00:50:43,232
And we have a
roundabout all planned

1063
00:50:43,232 --> 00:50:44,832
in a couple of years for that.

1064
00:50:44,832 --> 00:50:46,752
So the funding could be
used for that as well.

1065
00:50:46,752 --> 00:50:50,022
So there are some financial
implications that the council

1066
00:50:50,022 --> 00:50:52,362
needs to know about as
they're making the discussion

1067
00:50:52,362 --> 00:50:57,053
with the reduced scope
of this project There are

1068
00:50:57,053 --> 00:51:01,722
any concerns about surface water
runoff All one resident has

1069
00:51:01,722 --> 00:51:05,322
stated several times that
there's a pond that fills up

1070
00:51:05,322 --> 00:51:07,602
or pools up around their
house or on the street.

1071
00:51:07,602 --> 00:51:10,062
I the owner of posthaste
reached out to me when we're

1072
00:51:10,062 --> 00:51:12,882
at the threshing show
and mentioned that that's

1073
00:51:12,882 --> 00:51:14,135
street in front of his house.

1074
00:51:14,135 --> 00:51:15,567
He's worried about
it being too narrow.

1075
00:51:15,567 --> 00:51:16,820
That could be a
different project,

1076
00:51:16,820 --> 00:51:19,302
but I don't know if you
mentioned you know, surface

1077
00:51:19,302 --> 00:51:23,952
water runoff and some kind of
pond in, but are there any areas

1078
00:51:23,952 --> 00:51:27,252
where we have to worry about
that about not, you know,

1079
00:51:27,252 --> 00:51:30,162
recreating to make sure
that we've addressed some

1080
00:51:30,162 --> 00:51:33,792
of that mean amir
and council certainly

1081
00:51:33,792 --> 00:51:36,102
that was one of the drivers
originally of this project.

1082
00:51:36,102 --> 00:51:38,262
And I think back in
1996 when I first

1083
00:51:38,262 --> 00:51:41,112
came before the council, one
of the goals of the project

1084
00:51:41,112 --> 00:51:44,172
was certainly to address
substandard infrastructure

1085
00:51:44,172 --> 00:51:47,262
of the water main, but also
some of the drainage complaints

1086
00:51:47,262 --> 00:51:51,582
in the community and hence that
is why the original project went

1087
00:51:51,582 --> 00:51:54,907
forward with Curb and
gutter and stormwater ponds,

1088
00:51:54,907 --> 00:51:57,492
channeling the runoff
from the streets

1089
00:51:57,492 --> 00:52:01,072
into storms who are so that it
wouldn't draining to folks yard.

1090
00:52:01,072 --> 00:52:05,412
So so I think yes, there is
some concern that a project

1091
00:52:05,412 --> 00:52:06,432
would move forward.

1092
00:52:06,432 --> 00:52:08,982
And it would not address
some of the drainage issues

1093
00:52:08,982 --> 00:52:12,252
that have been communicated
if we went with this.

1094
00:52:12,252 --> 00:52:18,102
This project that's focused on
water main problem you brought

1095
00:52:18,102 --> 00:52:21,132
up again for another 31 years.

1096
00:52:21,132 --> 00:52:25,512
Yeah So we had a
resident a former council

1097
00:52:25,512 --> 00:52:28,152
member sent an email
to Councilmember

1098
00:52:28,152 --> 00:52:29,322
Golay He shared it with us.

1099
00:52:29,322 --> 00:52:31,842
The administrator got shared
with the rest of the council.

1100
00:52:31,842 --> 00:52:33,784
I've also had at least
one, if not a couple

1101
00:52:33,784 --> 00:52:36,942
of conversations with
her over the past month.

1102
00:52:36,942 --> 00:52:40,032
She is talking about Shield's
plaza and the potential

1103
00:52:40,032 --> 00:52:43,332
for additional water
runoff from that

1104
00:52:43,332 --> 00:52:45,492
drive Have we looked at that?

1105
00:52:45,492 --> 00:52:48,252
Do we think that there's going
to be any type of added pressure

1106
00:52:48,252 --> 00:52:50,952
for the water
going to the street

1107
00:52:50,952 --> 00:52:53,082
or do we not know the
elevations of that property

1108
00:52:53,082 --> 00:52:56,052
and where the water would be
going regardless of what they

1109
00:52:56,052 --> 00:53:02,652
did It is my understanding that
the driveway is a resurface

1110
00:53:02,652 --> 00:53:06,642
and they are adding curb
and gutter to the driveway

1111
00:53:06,642 --> 00:53:10,726
to collect and channel
that stormwater.

1112
00:53:10,726 --> 00:53:11,922
They are adding.

1113
00:53:11,922 --> 00:53:15,012
I believe that the number
is five parking stalls

1114
00:53:15,012 --> 00:53:19,272
and they are adding their own
stormwater retention and pond,

1115
00:53:19,272 --> 00:53:23,802
which would be on the west
side of their parking lot

1116
00:53:23,802 --> 00:53:25,752
So they have made
it improvements

1117
00:53:25,752 --> 00:53:27,042
to their own drainage system.

1118
00:53:27,042 --> 00:53:31,542
But, but yes, that if water does
come flowing within the curb

1119
00:53:31,542 --> 00:53:34,122
and gutter of the driveway
and there is no collection

1120
00:53:34,122 --> 00:53:36,852
basins for stormwater there is
potential of that coming out

1121
00:53:36,852 --> 00:53:43,212
into the street Okay The
other thing I had talked

1122
00:53:43,212 --> 00:53:45,852
to near Sandra about this,
maybe a week or two ago

1123
00:53:45,852 --> 00:53:50,212
but so one of the concerns is we
haven't heard from all is it 60?

1124
00:53:50,212 --> 00:53:50,712
Exactly.

1125
00:53:50,712 --> 00:53:53,802
60 properties or somewhere
in that area Correct.

1126
00:53:53,802 --> 00:53:57,522
We've heard from
approximately ten

1127
00:53:57,522 --> 00:53:59,763
I suggested that we did
do some type of signature

1128
00:53:59,763 --> 00:54:01,962
return or certified
letter, just so they

1129
00:54:01,962 --> 00:54:03,312
can't say they didn't know.

1130
00:54:03,312 --> 00:54:07,542
We're not hearing from everybody
I know there's concern by a few

1131
00:54:07,542 --> 00:54:08,842
that they think
we should do more.

1132
00:54:08,842 --> 00:54:09,942
Obviously we've
heard from a few.

1133
00:54:09,942 --> 00:54:13,782
They think we should do
less So I'm trying to figure

1134
00:54:13,782 --> 00:54:15,192
out how do we determine that?

1135
00:54:15,192 --> 00:54:21,582
We're hearing from enough
of those 60 property owners

1136
00:54:21,582 --> 00:54:24,552
American solar typically,
you know they've

1137
00:54:24,552 --> 00:54:26,202
received several mailers.

1138
00:54:26,202 --> 00:54:28,152
We've had a couple
of discussions

1139
00:54:28,152 --> 00:54:31,072
We've had multiple community
meetings on their behalf

1140
00:54:31,072 --> 00:54:32,583
here at City Hall.

1141
00:54:32,583 --> 00:54:34,662
They've held their own
neighborhood meetings

1142
00:54:34,662 --> 00:54:38,952
as well if they had a problem
or had a question about it,

1143
00:54:38,952 --> 00:54:43,992
they've been given ample time
to respond We can't make people

1144
00:54:43,992 --> 00:54:47,172
open their mail if
something gets mailed in

1145
00:54:47,172 --> 00:54:48,312
and they see it's from the city.

1146
00:54:48,312 --> 00:54:52,632
And they throw it away, you know
they've received several mailers

1147
00:54:52,632 --> 00:54:55,722
from the city in regards to this
project We can't make them do

1148
00:54:55,722 --> 00:54:58,452
that If they receive another
one where it's certified,

1149
00:54:58,452 --> 00:54:59,837
they might assign their name.

1150
00:54:59,837 --> 00:55:03,432
And again, throw away There's we
can't make them read their mail

1151
00:55:03,432 --> 00:55:06,012
So if there are people out
there who are concerned

1152
00:55:06,012 --> 00:55:10,932
or they've been given ample
opportunity to receive

1153
00:55:10,932 --> 00:55:13,542
the information, learn about the
information they've been invited

1154
00:55:13,542 --> 00:55:15,732
to multiple meetings
to participate

1155
00:55:15,732 --> 00:55:18,882
and gather information
on their own behalf.

1156
00:55:18,882 --> 00:55:21,852
The city has done everything
that well, well beyond what

1157
00:55:21,852 --> 00:55:26,322
our actual obligations are as
a city for a project like this

1158
00:55:26,322 --> 00:55:28,512
Considering the
assessments we went through

1159
00:55:28,512 --> 00:55:30,882
and an extra step
of the process just

1160
00:55:30,882 --> 00:55:36,702
to make sure that we had ample
community information out there

1161
00:55:36,702 --> 00:55:40,692
we've actually added a whole
page to our website on it.

1162
00:55:40,692 --> 00:55:44,232
We've had it on our Facebook
page We've done absolutely

1163
00:55:44,232 --> 00:55:47,622
everything that I feel
is necessary and more

1164
00:55:47,622 --> 00:55:50,412
from the city's perspective
on a project like this.

1165
00:55:50,412 --> 00:55:54,942
And you have not received
any phone calls this year

1166
00:55:54,942 --> 00:55:56,532
The only correspondence
that I have had

1167
00:55:56,532 --> 00:55:59,862
in regards to this project
are from former council

1168
00:55:59,862 --> 00:56:01,497
member Cathy Blomquist.

1169
00:56:01,497 --> 00:56:02,315
OK.

1170
00:56:02,315 --> 00:56:06,612
Thank you Barebones approach.

1171
00:56:06,612 --> 00:56:09,432
I assume that we're replacing
the street like we would

1172
00:56:09,432 --> 00:56:11,802
any other neighborhood
that then there's

1173
00:56:11,802 --> 00:56:15,102
no there's no cost passed
along to the property owners.

1174
00:56:15,102 --> 00:56:16,722
If we go with the
bare bones approach

1175
00:56:16,722 --> 00:56:19,152
there is no assessments to the
property owners That is correct.

1176
00:56:19,152 --> 00:56:25,662
Yeah Did we talk about x
widening the road while we do

1177
00:56:25,662 --> 00:56:29,682
that overlay In one
of our last meetings

1178
00:56:29,682 --> 00:56:34,182
I thought that was brought
up for part of that.

1179
00:56:34,182 --> 00:56:37,588
If i think it was brought up as
part of the original project.

1180
00:56:37,588 --> 00:56:39,644
But not as part of just
the overlay itself.

1181
00:56:39,644 --> 00:56:40,144
Overlay.

1182
00:56:40,144 --> 00:56:40,882
OK Yeah.

1183
00:56:40,882 --> 00:56:41,382
Yeah.

1184
00:56:41,382 --> 00:56:43,842
So we were I think it came up
in one of the prior meetings

1185
00:56:43,842 --> 00:56:47,052
about different residents
measuring different areas

1186
00:56:47,052 --> 00:56:50,755
of the road and asking for it
to be wider and more consistent

1187
00:56:50,755 --> 00:56:51,883
Yeah, Yeah.

1188
00:56:51,883 --> 00:56:53,012
Yep, yep.

1189
00:56:53,012 --> 00:56:55,902
Yeah, but i think the
current ask was just

1190
00:56:55,902 --> 00:56:59,982
for basically the overlay
overlay the exact with the we

1191
00:56:59,982 --> 00:57:00,612
are today.

1192
00:57:00,612 --> 00:57:02,445
Yeah Leave the footprint.

1193
00:57:02,445 --> 00:57:02,945
Yep.

1194
00:57:02,945 --> 00:57:03,559
So change.

1195
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:04,542
OK.

1196
00:57:04,542 --> 00:57:08,601
One question I have too is One
of Miss Moon Quest requests

1197
00:57:08,601 --> 00:57:11,559
would be sidewalk on Elm
if we were to do that,

1198
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:13,032
though that would require
a curb and gutter.

1199
00:57:13,032 --> 00:57:13,532
Correct.

1200
00:57:13,532 --> 00:57:14,982
And then that affects
the stormwater.

1201
00:57:14,982 --> 00:57:20,420
You wouldn't just put the
sidewalk in with no drainage

1202
00:57:20,420 --> 00:57:23,772
there and councilmember Golay,
We'd have to look at that.

1203
00:57:23,772 --> 00:57:27,222
I mean, we may be able
to put in something

1204
00:57:27,222 --> 00:57:28,863
or without a curb and gutter.

1205
00:57:28,863 --> 00:57:30,931
We would have to look
at that in more detail

1206
00:57:30,931 --> 00:57:33,492
to see how that might
work And before we

1207
00:57:33,492 --> 00:57:37,234
pursue that though, I'd really
like to reassess our stance on.

1208
00:57:37,234 --> 00:57:41,712
I think the proposal was to
have the city plow that sidewalk

1209
00:57:41,712 --> 00:57:43,512
I disagree with that stance.

1210
00:57:43,512 --> 00:57:45,912
It's for consistency through
the road to the city.

1211
00:57:45,912 --> 00:57:48,252
I think it would be
better to either establish

1212
00:57:48,252 --> 00:57:51,282
that the property owner has
to take care of the snow

1213
00:57:51,282 --> 00:57:57,251
or don't put the sidewalk
in We have other sidewalks.

1214
00:57:57,251 --> 00:58:01,146
We take care of And why did
we do that and not leave it up

1215
00:58:01,146 --> 00:58:05,742
to the homeowners We we know
the majority of the community

1216
00:58:05,742 --> 00:58:07,182
the property owners
themselves are

1217
00:58:07,182 --> 00:58:10,062
responsible for the
sidewalks and the

1218
00:58:10,062 --> 00:58:13,362
in their front
yards or side yards.

1219
00:58:13,362 --> 00:58:16,452
The city has over time
created an ordinance

1220
00:58:16,452 --> 00:58:20,112
for the public works department
to provide snow removal

1221
00:58:20,112 --> 00:58:22,302
assistance for
particular corridors

1222
00:58:22,302 --> 00:58:24,642
within our community
This would not

1223
00:58:24,642 --> 00:58:30,132
be included in that
in our current policy

1224
00:58:30,132 --> 00:58:32,352
So I see elm as a thoroughfare.

1225
00:58:32,352 --> 00:58:33,967
You know, for
drive in, for walk.

1226
00:58:33,967 --> 00:58:36,492
It's not just the people
that live there That's why

1227
00:58:36,492 --> 00:58:38,622
I would hesitate to make them.

1228
00:58:38,622 --> 00:58:42,372
So you think they'd come
off 95 and go up to Elm

1229
00:58:42,372 --> 00:58:43,379
or whether they're driving?

1230
00:58:43,379 --> 00:58:45,312
There's lot of people drive
through that don't live there.

1231
00:58:45,312 --> 00:58:48,942
I mean, I want to I don't have
a reason for 95, but yeah,

1232
00:58:48,942 --> 00:58:50,772
and I understand
the driving on elm,

1233
00:58:50,772 --> 00:58:53,832
but the sidewalk itself it
seems like most of the city

1234
00:58:53,832 --> 00:58:58,700
would stay on 95 unless they're
in that community or office,

1235
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:00,012
either any of the side streets.

1236
00:59:00,012 --> 00:59:03,162
I don't think it's just
going to be the people using

1237
00:59:03,162 --> 00:59:05,562
or that live on elm that are
going to be using that sidewalk,

1238
00:59:05,562 --> 00:59:07,032
I think is going to be I agree.

1239
00:59:07,032 --> 00:59:08,742
But more in the
neighborhood, I would say,

1240
00:59:08,742 --> 00:59:11,682
is that where those people
coming from whether they're

1241
00:59:11,682 --> 00:59:14,592
walking around cedar down to
Elm and make a loop or not,

1242
00:59:14,592 --> 00:59:17,564
but i wonder if we could make
that just a different project

1243
00:59:17,564 --> 00:59:18,263
at some point.

1244
00:59:18,263 --> 00:59:22,452
The sidewalk Yeah, but I'd be
open I mean, I could do that.

1245
00:59:22,452 --> 00:59:24,282
We were pushing
for the sidewalks

1246
00:59:24,282 --> 00:59:28,127
and parking there basically
to support the downtown park.

1247
00:59:28,127 --> 00:59:29,565
Right, Exactly.

1248
00:59:29,565 --> 00:59:33,372
We could make that as a
priority for potential,

1249
00:59:33,372 --> 00:59:36,792
say for school grants and
future that's been brought up.

1250
00:59:36,792 --> 00:59:39,132
But we've never gotten an
answer out of anybody on that.

1251
00:59:39,132 --> 00:59:43,092
So I think it's i think it's
that meets the criteria.

1252
00:59:43,092 --> 00:59:46,452
But I'm saying that correctly
as Ben included, that.

1253
00:59:46,452 --> 00:59:48,672
No, no, no, no I'm
saying in the future, the

1254
00:59:48,672 --> 00:59:50,142
potential future project goal.

1255
00:59:50,142 --> 00:59:51,290
This is a goal.

1256
00:59:51,290 --> 00:59:53,682
The council's
directing staff to make

1257
00:59:53,682 --> 00:59:56,832
that a priority are included in
the next round of safe school.

1258
00:59:56,832 --> 00:59:57,532
Yeah.

1259
00:59:57,532 --> 00:59:58,032
Yeah.

1260
00:59:58,032 --> 01:00:00,792
So that area is not currently
included on our safe right

1261
01:00:00,792 --> 01:00:01,601
to school plan.

1262
01:00:01,601 --> 01:00:02,721
And so that's why.

1263
01:00:02,721 --> 01:00:04,290
And so we talked
about earlier about

1264
01:00:04,290 --> 01:00:09,072
for when we apply for funding
if it's not in the plan.

1265
01:00:09,072 --> 01:00:10,902
That's why it's so
important to have items

1266
01:00:10,902 --> 01:00:12,912
identified in the
plans to help support

1267
01:00:12,912 --> 01:00:14,908
those grant applications.

1268
01:00:14,908 --> 01:00:18,372
Our our city code does
talking about having sidewalks

1269
01:00:18,372 --> 01:00:21,162
along collectors on at
least a minimum of one

1270
01:00:21,162 --> 01:00:23,982
side of the roadway which so our
subdivision code does already

1271
01:00:23,982 --> 01:00:26,442
talk about that or say
for the school plan

1272
01:00:26,442 --> 01:00:29,524
does not have that
particular route in there.

1273
01:00:29,524 --> 01:00:32,022
So and you're currently
revising that, right?

1274
01:00:32,022 --> 01:00:35,862
You've been meeting a goal if
you haven't seen a need to put

1275
01:00:35,862 --> 01:00:37,842
it on Elm in that part of Elm.

1276
01:00:37,842 --> 01:00:39,192
And then what are we asking for?

1277
01:00:39,192 --> 01:00:41,262
Because there already
going through that,

1278
01:00:41,262 --> 01:00:42,589
that review process.

1279
01:00:42,589 --> 01:00:44,496
And then it hasn't
qualified or hasn't

1280
01:00:44,496 --> 01:00:46,242
been brought up as a need.

1281
01:00:46,242 --> 01:00:47,573
It wasn't in the original plan.

1282
01:00:47,573 --> 01:00:48,195
So the original.

1283
01:00:48,195 --> 01:00:48,719
So the plan.

1284
01:00:48,719 --> 01:00:50,052
So the safe, what the
school plan really

1285
01:00:50,052 --> 01:00:53,292
looks at a mile from
existing schools and i mean,

1286
01:00:53,292 --> 01:00:56,382
there's always going to be
variables where there's areas

1287
01:00:56,382 --> 01:00:59,142
that could be two miles where
we have a lot of walkers

1288
01:00:59,142 --> 01:01:01,076
or bikers and so those areas.

1289
01:01:01,076 --> 01:01:03,552
And that's where I'm i'm like
the Lux crossing development.

1290
01:01:03,552 --> 01:01:05,502
We've had a lot of
inquiries about that.

1291
01:01:05,502 --> 01:01:08,232
That's portions of that are
a little bit further out

1292
01:01:08,232 --> 01:01:10,452
But we've had a lot
of input And so things

1293
01:01:10,452 --> 01:01:12,432
like that, as we get that
feedback, that's why it's

1294
01:01:12,432 --> 01:01:14,262
important get the feedback
from the community

1295
01:01:14,262 --> 01:01:16,302
and that would get
implemented into that plan

1296
01:01:16,302 --> 01:01:20,472
and help us as we prioritize
for safe roads, corridors.

1297
01:01:20,472 --> 01:01:22,092
So that's what I'm
asking you, though.

1298
01:01:22,092 --> 01:01:23,826
It hasn't been identified
through this process,

1299
01:01:23,826 --> 01:01:25,076
this summer as it has.

1300
01:01:25,076 --> 01:01:25,909
It has not.

1301
01:01:25,909 --> 01:01:28,392
But it's also going to included
as part of this project.

1302
01:01:28,392 --> 01:01:31,122
So we it's not been discussed
because it was originally

1303
01:01:31,122 --> 01:01:32,142
part of this project.

1304
01:01:32,142 --> 01:01:34,759
Why don't you take care.

1305
01:01:34,759 --> 01:01:35,892
I struggled with
that a little bit

1306
01:01:35,892 --> 01:01:37,722
because I feel like
if it's important for,

1307
01:01:37,722 --> 01:01:39,072
say, for the
school, there should

1308
01:01:39,072 --> 01:01:42,282
have been a dual approach Yeah.

1309
01:01:42,282 --> 01:01:44,952
So the plan is still in
process I mean, the updated

1310
01:01:44,952 --> 01:01:46,348
plan, like the current plan.

1311
01:01:46,348 --> 01:01:48,581
I'm talking about, does not
currently have that in there

1312
01:01:48,581 --> 01:01:51,072
there in the city received
a grant to update its plan

1313
01:01:51,072 --> 01:01:54,462
or current plan is from 2011.

1314
01:01:54,462 --> 01:01:56,322
And so we're in the
process of updating

1315
01:01:56,322 --> 01:01:58,172
that We got grant funding.

1316
01:01:58,172 --> 01:02:02,052
So no cost to us
And so that's we're

1317
01:02:02,052 --> 01:02:03,642
hoping to have the
results of that

1318
01:02:03,642 --> 01:02:06,066
here in the next
1 to two months.

1319
01:02:06,066 --> 01:02:09,132
So okay, so other than
us bringing it up,

1320
01:02:09,132 --> 01:02:11,412
it hasn't been brought up
in these conversations.

1321
01:02:11,412 --> 01:02:17,552
That part all so no I mean, I
guess I have not we have not.

1322
01:02:17,552 --> 01:02:23,213
So I mean, I so between
the central park

1323
01:02:23,213 --> 01:02:26,219
and then going towards
the cemetery Correct.

1324
01:02:26,219 --> 01:02:27,441
Oh so Yeah.

1325
01:02:27,441 --> 01:02:30,762
On the west side Right.

1326
01:02:30,762 --> 01:02:31,282
Yes.

1327
01:02:31,282 --> 01:02:37,422
OK I mean, I think Right.

1328
01:02:37,422 --> 01:02:45,942
Yeah, some people aren't some
people are Yeah So again,

1329
01:02:45,942 --> 01:02:47,892
I like the idea of the
sidewalk being an elm.

1330
01:02:47,892 --> 01:02:51,792
But how we get there is
a whole nother discussion

1331
01:02:51,792 --> 01:02:53,862
and I like the idea of
including a safe after school.

1332
01:02:53,862 --> 01:02:57,102
I just haven't heard it
come up naturally in these

1333
01:02:57,102 --> 01:02:58,332
in these are review meetings.

1334
01:02:58,332 --> 01:03:02,882
So that's has surprised so
if you think it should be.

1335
01:03:02,882 --> 01:03:05,352
I'm all for it i'm
just thrown out

1336
01:03:05,352 --> 01:03:07,542
there is that's a funding
option and if it's

1337
01:03:07,542 --> 01:03:09,146
not included in the plan.

1338
01:03:09,146 --> 01:03:13,092
Now as we're going potentially
bare bones if we see it

1339
01:03:13,092 --> 01:03:16,632
as the council sitting here
now and asking me to consider

1340
01:03:16,632 --> 01:03:19,902
putting that in a new revised
plan for, say, for our school

1341
01:03:19,902 --> 01:03:22,662
to make, it is essentially
feeder towards downtown

1342
01:03:22,662 --> 01:03:24,015
and the Two trails.

1343
01:03:24,015 --> 01:03:27,822
We have now and etc.
that can be our direction

1344
01:03:27,822 --> 01:03:32,142
And then i don't I'm just
looking again at funding sources

1345
01:03:32,142 --> 01:03:33,309
and how we get there.

1346
01:03:33,309 --> 01:03:35,326
Yeah, I'm aligned
with your strategy of,

1347
01:03:35,326 --> 01:03:37,464
you know, keeping it
as front and center.

1348
01:03:37,464 --> 01:03:39,492
But out of scope for
the original project

1349
01:03:39,492 --> 01:03:40,932
we're talking
about Right, right.

1350
01:03:40,932 --> 01:03:41,502
I agree.

1351
01:03:41,502 --> 01:03:43,092
I think it should be
a separate project.

1352
01:03:43,092 --> 01:03:47,742
Yep I don't know if we going
to get any other responses.

1353
01:03:47,742 --> 01:03:50,202
We've had several
meetings, several inquiries

1354
01:03:50,202 --> 01:03:52,392
in our notifications
to these 60 properties.

1355
01:03:52,392 --> 01:03:55,392
So i mean, I guess we can
maybe come to consensus

1356
01:03:55,392 --> 01:03:58,692
and we can maybe go one
more meeting in case

1357
01:03:58,692 --> 01:04:01,332
we get the feedback or do
or if somebody wants to just

1358
01:04:01,332 --> 01:04:04,212
go with it right
now, we can whatever

1359
01:04:04,212 --> 01:04:08,292
the recommendation of from
this is right as info though.

1360
01:04:08,292 --> 01:04:12,364
So no action taken
Council can make an action

1361
01:04:12,364 --> 01:04:14,232
and then take action on this.

1362
01:04:14,232 --> 01:04:16,902
We've got three different
options in the packet.

1363
01:04:16,902 --> 01:04:19,092
Proceed with the full
reconsider action is proposed.

1364
01:04:19,092 --> 01:04:21,402
Proceed with reduce
scope barebones project

1365
01:04:21,402 --> 01:04:22,392
or delay the project.

1366
01:04:22,392 --> 01:04:25,853
And definitely One more
question or another question.

1367
01:04:25,853 --> 01:04:29,982
I should put it so talked
about that it'd be 1 million

1368
01:04:29,982 --> 01:04:33,912
of the roughly 1.8 from
the utility scale right?

1369
01:04:33,912 --> 01:04:36,040
So whereas I guess
walk us through

1370
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,222
right now where the
other 1.1 1.2 million

1371
01:04:39,222 --> 01:04:43,482
of sewer and from
those dedicated okay so

1372
01:04:43,482 --> 01:04:45,459
that part to get to that level.

1373
01:04:45,459 --> 01:04:46,722
Now you're talking
about the funding

1374
01:04:46,722 --> 01:04:48,852
sources that's the next level.

1375
01:04:48,852 --> 01:04:49,692
What would be approved?

1376
01:04:49,692 --> 01:04:50,562
Yeah Yeah.

1377
01:04:50,562 --> 01:04:54,712
Just before I would be
able to go forward right?

1378
01:04:54,712 --> 01:04:55,212
Yeah.

1379
01:04:55,212 --> 01:04:57,462
So the next if, if, if
approved now to move

1380
01:04:57,462 --> 01:04:59,905
forward with the $2.2 million.

1381
01:04:59,905 --> 01:05:04,152
Well, we would then request
that the city engineers

1382
01:05:04,152 --> 01:05:07,452
would move forward
with a specifically

1383
01:05:07,452 --> 01:05:08,520
what would be the next step.

1384
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,912
So you're going project scope
engineering and funding sources.

1385
01:05:12,912 --> 01:05:14,862
Yes, we would put to get
we would work with Sharon

1386
01:05:14,862 --> 01:05:17,112
and the city administrator
to put together a funding

1387
01:05:17,112 --> 01:05:20,322
plan, presumably the restricted
fund or the street funding

1388
01:05:20,322 --> 01:05:23,892
and water fund would be the
two primary funding sources

1389
01:05:23,892 --> 01:05:25,002
that we would bring back.

1390
01:05:25,002 --> 01:05:27,732
And then we would also put
together an engineering proposal

1391
01:05:27,732 --> 01:05:30,010
to bring forth and a
schedule and the full

1392
01:05:30,010 --> 01:05:31,893
here's the proposal
for moving forward

1393
01:05:31,893 --> 01:05:35,382
with this, this new
scope of the project

1394
01:05:35,382 --> 01:05:37,662
And I do see it is in here,
just was kind of heightened

1395
01:05:37,662 --> 01:05:39,946
sense of the council wish to
move forward the smaller project

1396
01:05:39,946 --> 01:05:43,152
staff are very projects
on the plan and design

1397
01:05:43,152 --> 01:05:45,072
proposal for
consideration of a feature

1398
01:05:45,072 --> 01:05:46,122
at a future council meeting.

1399
01:05:46,122 --> 01:05:51,882
So so right now you're looking
for consensus or a motion

1400
01:05:51,882 --> 01:05:53,592
a motion would motion deal deal.

1401
01:05:53,592 --> 01:05:57,210
And the idea okay, I'll
make the most Second to you

1402
01:05:57,210 --> 01:05:58,422
scope barebones project.

1403
01:05:58,422 --> 01:05:59,142
Second that.

1404
01:05:59,142 --> 01:05:59,862
Mr. Mayor.

1405
01:05:59,862 --> 01:06:00,582
All right.

1406
01:06:00,582 --> 01:06:01,784
We got a first and second.

1407
01:06:01,784 --> 01:06:03,582
Any questions before we go?

1408
01:06:03,582 --> 01:06:06,222
I would just say thank you
again to Heidi and Austin.

1409
01:06:06,222 --> 01:06:07,554
How much they mean,
how much they've

1410
01:06:07,554 --> 01:06:10,422
gone through what they've
taken, her feedback and they've

1411
01:06:10,422 --> 01:06:13,108
come back with results.

1412
01:06:13,108 --> 01:06:15,107
And at they showed they've
been listening to us.

1413
01:06:15,107 --> 01:06:17,742
And the fact that we provided
and the residents and I know

1414
01:06:17,742 --> 01:06:20,322
there's a times residents
don't always feel

1415
01:06:20,322 --> 01:06:23,655
heard But you came back time
and time again and showed up.

1416
01:06:23,655 --> 01:06:25,318
And I thought, you operate
in very good faith.

1417
01:06:25,318 --> 01:06:26,074
And I appreciate that.

1418
01:06:26,074 --> 01:06:26,679
And with answers.

1419
01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:27,179
Thank you.

1420
01:06:27,179 --> 01:06:28,272
You.

1421
01:06:28,272 --> 01:06:30,474
I'm just looking forward
to denise Martin with us.

1422
01:06:30,474 --> 01:06:31,332
South County Press.

1423
01:06:31,332 --> 01:06:34,962
And it's on again right at
the top, again on again.

1424
01:06:34,962 --> 01:06:36,019
That's those are her headlines.

1425
01:06:36,019 --> 01:06:39,635
So what's she going to write
about the next 30 years on this?

1426
01:06:39,635 --> 01:06:41,424
I have to tease or a little bit.

1427
01:06:41,424 --> 01:06:42,792
So All right.

1428
01:06:42,792 --> 01:06:45,802
We've got a first and second
question before we go.

1429
01:06:45,802 --> 01:06:46,302
All right.

1430
01:06:46,302 --> 01:06:46,802
All in favor.

1431
01:06:46,802 --> 01:06:48,912
Signify by saying I, I i.

1432
01:06:48,912 --> 01:06:55,122
Any opposed fast unanimously
Thank you All right.

1433
01:06:55,122 --> 01:06:58,272
Have you want to nine delta
and ask to consider approval

1434
01:06:58,272 --> 01:07:03,012
of an ordinance amending city
code section 66-943 which is

1435
01:07:03,012 --> 01:07:04,782
design standards for
permitted building

1436
01:07:04,782 --> 01:07:06,672
materials and amending
the design overlay

1437
01:07:06,672 --> 01:07:07,752
district maps ordinance.

1438
01:07:07,752 --> 01:07:09,712
Sandra, you want
to kick this off?

1439
01:07:09,712 --> 01:07:10,212
Yeah.

1440
01:07:10,212 --> 01:07:12,909
Good evening, Mayor and council
all before you tonight is

1441
01:07:12,909 --> 01:07:16,122
a request to approve an
ordinance to amend city code

1442
01:07:16,122 --> 01:07:19,229
section 66 9:43 for
design standards regarding

1443
01:07:19,229 --> 01:07:21,882
the class one materials
and modification

1444
01:07:21,882 --> 01:07:23,652
of the design standards map.

1445
01:07:23,652 --> 01:07:26,142
This has been discussed for
the past several months.

1446
01:07:26,142 --> 01:07:27,642
It kind of really
goes back to last year

1447
01:07:27,642 --> 01:07:29,802
when we started looking at
the industrial park looking

1448
01:07:29,802 --> 01:07:33,522
at design standards, trying to
find ways to be more flexible

1449
01:07:33,522 --> 01:07:36,852
and to support businesses and
attract additional development

1450
01:07:36,852 --> 01:07:38,382
in the community.

1451
01:07:38,382 --> 01:07:41,082
Was recently like the
council and the planning

1452
01:07:41,082 --> 01:07:42,912
Commission held a
joint work session

1453
01:07:42,912 --> 01:07:44,960
back in June, and from there.

1454
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,772
There was discussion at the
Planning Commission meeting,

1455
01:07:47,772 --> 01:07:51,531
kind of following that after
discussions of proposed changes

1456
01:07:51,531 --> 01:07:54,462
to the to the
design standards map

1457
01:07:54,462 --> 01:07:59,022
and adding additional materials
to be included as permitted

1458
01:07:59,022 --> 01:08:01,062
And so one of the
materials to be added

1459
01:08:01,062 --> 01:08:04,002
was engineered wood siding
as a Class one building

1460
01:08:04,002 --> 01:08:08,172
material, durable water
resistant that again, provides

1461
01:08:08,172 --> 01:08:10,662
flexibility for
builders or people

1462
01:08:10,662 --> 01:08:13,152
looking to invest
into the community

1463
01:08:13,152 --> 01:08:15,672
And so essentially, we will
be adding that as a permitted

1464
01:08:15,672 --> 01:08:20,652
use based off of that, the
second option would be to amend

1465
01:08:20,652 --> 01:08:23,832
the design standards map like
I spoke of up on the screen

1466
01:08:23,832 --> 01:08:26,442
right now, there's
showing where the existing

1467
01:08:26,442 --> 01:08:28,272
design standards are at.

1468
01:08:28,272 --> 01:08:33,246
Everything that's red is zone
one, orange is zone 2 and yellow

1469
01:08:33,246 --> 01:08:34,482
is on three.

1470
01:08:34,482 --> 01:08:37,182
I'm the proposed
changes would be, again,

1471
01:08:37,182 --> 01:08:40,455
the orange or one excuse
me that red for one orange

1472
01:08:40,455 --> 01:08:42,491
for two and the
yellow for 3, in 2.

1473
01:08:42,491 --> 01:08:44,532
Going to give you little
bit more of a breakdown.

1474
01:08:44,532 --> 01:08:47,082
We're going to show
you the differences.

1475
01:08:47,082 --> 01:08:48,822
Essentially And I know
this is hard to see

1476
01:08:48,822 --> 01:08:51,612
and but here's the
existing and here's

1477
01:08:51,612 --> 01:08:54,784
the changes that were being
made essentially for zone 1.

1478
01:08:54,784 --> 01:08:58,585
There's an area over by where
the outlet mall essentially.

1479
01:08:58,585 --> 01:09:01,563
And making that entire parcel
they're already in zone 1.

1480
01:09:01,563 --> 01:09:04,447
And so there's no like
discrepancy for us ones or two.

1481
01:09:04,447 --> 01:09:08,140
And so it's entirely part
of zone 1, The zone 2,

1482
01:09:08,140 --> 01:09:11,112
we looked at modifying the area
of the link avenue corridor from

1483
01:09:11,112 --> 01:09:16,812
three 92nd Street up to roughly
three 999 three 99th Street,

1484
01:09:16,812 --> 01:09:19,782
and then also modifying the
area along Interstate 35,

1485
01:09:19,782 --> 01:09:23,336
South of where the furniture
store is switching that

1486
01:09:23,336 --> 01:09:26,172
to a zone 2 and
then making changes

1487
01:09:26,172 --> 01:09:28,062
in the industrial
park for that to go

1488
01:09:28,062 --> 01:09:31,488
to all of the zoning three.

1489
01:09:31,488 --> 01:09:37,062
And then removing the existing
portions that were zoned

1490
01:09:37,062 --> 01:09:39,102
residential taking those
out of the design standard

1491
01:09:39,102 --> 01:09:42,372
classifications And so it
really those are the changes

1492
01:09:42,372 --> 01:09:43,572
that we kind of discussed.

1493
01:09:43,572 --> 01:09:45,732
And so kind of going back
to what was proposed,

1494
01:09:45,732 --> 01:09:47,922
this is the resulting
map So everything

1495
01:09:47,922 --> 01:09:51,110
yellow again zone
3 2 the orange,

1496
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:54,205
and then the red is zone 1.

1497
01:09:54,205 --> 01:09:57,102
And so with that, the
Planning Commission held that

1498
01:09:57,102 --> 01:09:58,932
public hearing on August 4th.

1499
01:09:58,932 --> 01:10:01,272
There were no public
comments received,

1500
01:10:01,272 --> 01:10:02,832
but at the previous
meeting that the Planning

1501
01:10:02,832 --> 01:10:05,592
Commission had there was
support for the modification

1502
01:10:05,592 --> 01:10:07,272
and amendments.

1503
01:10:07,272 --> 01:10:10,092
And so with that, we we're
looking for the Planning

1504
01:10:10,092 --> 01:10:11,802
Commission recommended
approval And so this

1505
01:10:11,802 --> 01:10:16,272
is before you this evening for
your consideration All right.

1506
01:10:16,272 --> 01:10:20,982
Questions for Nate I I mean,
this is something we've

1507
01:10:20,982 --> 01:10:22,512
been pushing for a long time.

1508
01:10:22,512 --> 01:10:23,742
Common sense changes is.

1509
01:10:23,742 --> 01:10:25,182
Yes it is.

1510
01:10:25,182 --> 01:10:29,802
There's some things up a little
bit more flexibility All right.

1511
01:10:29,802 --> 01:10:31,722
So we've got an ordinance
in front of us there.

1512
01:10:31,722 --> 01:10:33,073
We're being asked to approve.

1513
01:10:33,073 --> 01:10:34,302
So we have a motion.

1514
01:10:34,302 --> 01:10:36,310
I'll make some All right.

1515
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:37,792
That's for ordinance
number four.

1516
01:10:37,792 --> 01:10:39,633
One 4, dash two six.

1517
01:10:39,633 --> 01:10:40,183
Yep.

1518
01:10:40,183 --> 01:10:40,734
Correct.

1519
01:10:40,734 --> 01:10:41,352
OK.

1520
01:10:41,352 --> 01:10:42,222
Second.

1521
01:10:42,222 --> 01:10:44,592
And the first and second,
the question before

1522
01:10:44,592 --> 01:10:45,922
we go, all right.

1523
01:10:45,922 --> 01:10:46,422
All in favor.

1524
01:10:46,422 --> 01:10:49,752
Signify by saying I
the opposed passed

1525
01:10:49,752 --> 01:10:52,152
unanimously Thank you, Nate.

1526
01:10:52,152 --> 01:10:53,442
We'll move on to
the next one then.

1527
01:10:53,442 --> 01:10:57,552
And that is to consider approval
of an ordinance allowing

1528
01:10:57,552 --> 01:10:59,322
twin homes in quad
and townhouses

1529
01:10:59,322 --> 01:11:02,072
as permitted uses in the
central business district

1530
01:11:02,072 --> 01:11:03,912
So Nate taken away
for mayor and council

1531
01:11:03,912 --> 01:11:06,312
before you, here again, is
another ordinance amendment.

1532
01:11:06,312 --> 01:11:08,802
This one is, as you mentioned
to make those modifications

1533
01:11:08,802 --> 01:11:11,592
to the central business
district to allow twin homes

1534
01:11:11,592 --> 01:11:13,992
and townhomes essentially
in the central business

1535
01:11:13,992 --> 01:11:17,864
district This discussed
originally back in July.

1536
01:11:17,864 --> 01:11:20,412
You know, there is discussion
that we've had as you kind

1537
01:11:20,412 --> 01:11:22,482
of look at where the central
business district is currently

1538
01:11:22,482 --> 01:11:27,552
at, it currently allows duplexes
and multi family buildings

1539
01:11:27,552 --> 01:11:28,692
that are 3 to 7 units.

1540
01:11:28,692 --> 01:11:31,722
But there's not allow twin
homes or townhome homes.

1541
01:11:31,722 --> 01:11:33,655
And so just kind of looking
at the permitted uses,

1542
01:11:33,655 --> 01:11:35,022
it kind of seemed like
that didn't really

1543
01:11:35,022 --> 01:11:36,793
you know why did I
would one be permitted

1544
01:11:36,793 --> 01:11:39,683
not the other one because
they're very similar items.

1545
01:11:39,683 --> 01:11:42,732
And so i've got a map up here
showing the central business

1546
01:11:42,732 --> 01:11:45,802
district kind of give me
your reference essentially

1547
01:11:45,802 --> 01:11:47,232
at the central
business district is

1548
01:11:47,232 --> 01:11:53,772
a long main street from
rancho Avenue to Grand Avenue.

1549
01:11:53,772 --> 01:11:56,922
And then a block on both
sides in the line County 30

1550
01:11:56,922 --> 01:12:02,208
from Cedar down to just south
of the Oak Street So everything.

1551
01:12:02,208 --> 01:12:03,756
This is in this
dark red area here.

1552
01:12:03,756 --> 01:12:05,676
And so I just kind of
in our discussions,

1553
01:12:05,676 --> 01:12:06,828
we really felt like that.

1554
01:12:06,828 --> 01:12:09,102
Like I mentioned, that
these are very similar uses

1555
01:12:09,102 --> 01:12:11,112
and it's trying
to just, you know,

1556
01:12:11,112 --> 01:12:13,332
seem to like that the
correct thing to do

1557
01:12:13,332 --> 01:12:17,323
is to have all of those really
be permitted in that district.

1558
01:12:17,323 --> 01:12:19,242
So if you look at the
permitted uses table,

1559
01:12:19,242 --> 01:12:21,042
this is the existing
art in the top.

1560
01:12:21,042 --> 01:12:23,202
So you can see that
these are not included.

1561
01:12:23,202 --> 01:12:28,332
These would be the townhomes
and that the twin homes,

1562
01:12:28,332 --> 01:12:29,082
there's nothing there.

1563
01:12:29,082 --> 01:12:32,097
And we're proposing to include
those as permitted uses.

1564
01:12:32,097 --> 01:12:35,785
That's going to provide more
flexibility more consistency

1565
01:12:35,785 --> 01:12:38,712
through the downtown
Planning Commission held

1566
01:12:38,712 --> 01:12:41,112
a public hearing in August.

1567
01:12:41,112 --> 01:12:43,872
There was one comment
provided at the meeting.

1568
01:12:43,872 --> 01:12:45,731
They were in support of the
proposed changes They felt

1569
01:12:45,731 --> 01:12:48,527
that it provided
for more flexibility

1570
01:12:48,527 --> 01:12:51,492
And, within the central
business district,

1571
01:12:51,492 --> 01:12:53,142
I mean, currently apartments
are allowed there.

1572
01:12:53,142 --> 01:12:56,142
And this is all for
a less intensive use.

1573
01:12:56,142 --> 01:12:59,562
And so they thought that
would be a good modification

1574
01:12:59,562 --> 01:13:00,672
to the code.

1575
01:13:00,672 --> 01:13:04,928
So with that is your
consideration of the ordinance

1576
01:13:04,928 --> 01:13:10,010
this evening Any
questions for Nate?

1577
01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:14,742
No comment You know.

1578
01:13:14,742 --> 01:13:16,002
Yeah.

1579
01:13:16,002 --> 01:13:18,522
I just want to highlight
the last piece you said

1580
01:13:18,522 --> 01:13:22,242
about the less intense
of usage, less intense

1581
01:13:22,242 --> 01:13:24,942
than apartments
and thinking, you

1582
01:13:24,942 --> 01:13:28,712
know, very specifically about
large vacant old school lot.

1583
01:13:28,712 --> 01:13:31,396
And what potentially
makes more sense.

1584
01:13:31,396 --> 01:13:34,602
There in the planning mindset.

1585
01:13:34,602 --> 01:13:40,122
And to the residents that live
in that facility Something

1586
01:13:40,122 --> 01:13:42,032
like this conversation
we're having

1587
01:13:42,032 --> 01:13:43,479
I think is a lot more
palatable and makes

1588
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:44,412
sense for that neighborhood.

1589
01:13:44,412 --> 01:13:45,262
And the surrounding area.

1590
01:13:45,262 --> 01:13:47,472
So i think that just
gives another option also

1591
01:13:47,472 --> 01:13:50,352
for the developers,
potential developers

1592
01:13:50,352 --> 01:13:52,392
to look at that
look at that area.

1593
01:13:52,392 --> 01:13:55,237
So it's and Nate,
with that developer,

1594
01:13:55,237 --> 01:13:58,122
those interested in that
old school lot is some

1595
01:13:58,122 --> 01:14:02,952
of the conversations about this
being brought on by what they're

1596
01:14:02,952 --> 01:14:06,522
trying to accomplish to figure
out you know, so there's just

1597
01:14:06,522 --> 01:14:08,412
we've had discussions
with multiple properties

1598
01:14:08,412 --> 01:14:09,732
and so there's other
vacant lots that

1599
01:14:09,732 --> 01:14:11,262
are within the central
business district.

1600
01:14:11,262 --> 01:14:13,962
And so we typically try to
whenever we make changes

1601
01:14:13,962 --> 01:14:16,242
to zoning ordinance, we look
at the whole district is not

1602
01:14:16,242 --> 01:14:19,000
a specific use, but
I mean, that lot

1603
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,664
would definitely be you know,
one that would be impacted

1604
01:14:22,664 --> 01:14:24,024
by changes or violations.

1605
01:14:24,024 --> 01:14:27,282
So yeah, I wasn't alluding
to a specific conversation,

1606
01:14:27,282 --> 01:14:30,522
just thinking over the last you
and I have had this conversation

1607
01:14:30,522 --> 01:14:31,152
in three years.

1608
01:14:31,152 --> 01:14:33,124
I'm council about that lot.

1609
01:14:33,124 --> 01:14:36,312
And what the community feels
would be more appropriate,

1610
01:14:36,312 --> 01:14:39,822
falls more in line with this
and with other vacant lots

1611
01:14:39,822 --> 01:14:41,142
of that area.

1612
01:14:41,142 --> 01:14:43,347
And just with that
said, the other one,

1613
01:14:43,347 --> 01:14:46,720
the the public comment was from
the owner of the vacant lots,

1614
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,252
the old Main Street site.

1615
01:14:48,252 --> 01:14:51,557
And so he was providing he was
in support of these changes

1616
01:14:51,557 --> 01:14:52,125
would make sense.

1617
01:14:52,125 --> 01:14:52,625
Right?

1618
01:14:52,625 --> 01:14:53,338
It makes sense.

1619
01:14:53,338 --> 01:14:54,050
Oh, yes.

1620
01:14:54,050 --> 01:14:54,584
Or flexibility.

1621
01:14:54,584 --> 01:14:55,782
OK All right.

1622
01:14:55,782 --> 01:14:57,976
Just wanted to make a confirm.

1623
01:14:57,976 --> 01:14:59,202
Adam.

1624
01:14:59,202 --> 01:14:59,982
All right.

1625
01:14:59,982 --> 01:15:03,822
So the ask then is to consider
approving that ordinance.

1626
01:15:03,822 --> 01:15:09,072
So our making a motion Me I'll
make that motion to approve

1627
01:15:09,072 --> 01:15:14,946
ordinance number 1526 OK.

1628
01:15:14,946 --> 01:15:18,432
And we have a second Second.

1629
01:15:18,432 --> 01:15:19,542
I've got a first and second.

1630
01:15:19,542 --> 01:15:22,092
Any questions before we vote?

1631
01:15:22,092 --> 01:15:22,602
All in favor.

1632
01:15:22,602 --> 01:15:26,052
Signify by saying I i
any opposed unanimously.

1633
01:15:26,052 --> 01:15:27,052
Thank you.

1634
01:15:27,052 --> 01:15:27,552
You.

1635
01:15:27,552 --> 01:15:28,842
Appreciate that.

1636
01:15:28,842 --> 01:15:29,679
And thank you.

1637
01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:32,132
The planning commission for all
the hard work they're doing.

1638
01:15:32,132 --> 01:15:33,642
We've got more coming.

1639
01:15:33,642 --> 01:15:34,212
That's good.

1640
01:15:34,212 --> 01:15:35,268
You can come in this month.

1641
01:15:35,268 --> 01:15:36,822
Thank you All right.

1642
01:15:36,822 --> 01:15:38,624
Now we're up to our
June finance update.

1643
01:15:38,624 --> 01:15:41,682
So our finance director,
Sharon who I kicked us off.

1644
01:15:41,682 --> 01:15:45,672
Thank you, Mayor and council
The city's financial position

1645
01:15:45,672 --> 01:15:47,052
remains very strong.

1646
01:15:47,052 --> 01:15:48,462
Through June.

1647
01:15:48,462 --> 01:15:53,352
As of June, we had a 9.1
million in cash and equivalents

1648
01:15:53,352 --> 01:15:57,042
and 16.8 million
and investment funds

1649
01:15:57,042 --> 01:15:59,772
within trust rates
remaining stable.

1650
01:15:59,772 --> 01:16:03,702
The city also received its first
property tax settlement from

1651
01:16:03,702 --> 01:16:06,240
Chisago County in early July.

1652
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,212
This is typically the larger
portion of the settlement,

1653
01:16:10,212 --> 01:16:15,492
as many taxpayers pay their full
amount of annual property taxes

1654
01:16:15,492 --> 01:16:20,472
At that time the liquor stores
are entering their busiest

1655
01:16:20,472 --> 01:16:24,012
season of the year, although
sales are projected to be

1656
01:16:24,012 --> 01:16:28,782
slightly below expectations
Staff have done an excellent job

1657
01:16:28,782 --> 01:16:33,942
managing expenses The stores
remain on track to make the full

1658
01:16:33,942 --> 01:16:38,832
$350,000 transfer and finish
the year with a net profit

1659
01:16:38,832 --> 01:16:43,662
margin of approximately 9%.

1660
01:16:43,662 --> 01:16:46,032
The EDA Fund is
projected to finish

1661
01:16:46,032 --> 01:16:50,142
the year with approximately
500,000 in net income.

1662
01:16:50,142 --> 01:16:53,742
The general fund is also
tracking positively with

1663
01:16:53,742 --> 01:16:57,702
approximately 400,000
Am projected netting,

1664
01:16:57,702 --> 01:17:00,912
indicating that the city's
tax levy is appropriate

1665
01:17:00,912 --> 01:17:02,292
Lee Supporting ongoing.

1666
01:17:02,292 --> 01:17:06,942
So the upper Asians all
utility funds remain

1667
01:17:06,942 --> 01:17:08,892
in good financial condition.

1668
01:17:08,892 --> 01:17:12,912
The sewer fund continues to
perform particularly well

1669
01:17:12,912 --> 01:17:15,372
while the water storm
and generation funds

1670
01:17:15,372 --> 01:17:19,512
are all projected to finish
the year with positive results

1671
01:17:19,512 --> 01:17:22,152
Overall, the city
continues to maintain

1672
01:17:22,152 --> 01:17:25,692
a strong financial
position with healthy cash

1673
01:17:25,692 --> 01:17:27,312
and investment balances.

1674
01:17:27,312 --> 01:17:31,002
Positive operating results and
sound performance across the two

1675
01:17:31,002 --> 01:17:33,825
major funds All right.

1676
01:17:33,825 --> 01:17:38,292
Questions for Sharon No, no.

1677
01:17:38,292 --> 01:17:43,453
Got a lot of money sitting in
the investment fund And yes.

1678
01:17:43,453 --> 01:17:47,618
So when we get to
utilize some of that,

1679
01:17:47,618 --> 01:17:53,142
we will utilize interest We're
trying to utilize some of it

1680
01:17:53,142 --> 01:17:55,214
for our Northwest old town.

1681
01:17:55,214 --> 01:18:03,854
But okay so so if
there's any comments

1682
01:18:03,854 --> 01:18:06,922
otherwise we can go
on to the next No.

1683
01:18:06,922 --> 01:18:07,422
All right.

1684
01:18:07,422 --> 01:18:10,692
The budget 2027, Mayor,
I mean, honestly,

1685
01:18:10,692 --> 01:18:14,562
to your question it shows
up in the budget projections

1686
01:18:14,562 --> 01:18:17,862
for the revenue for next
year The interest income

1687
01:18:17,862 --> 01:18:19,122
is significantly higher.

1688
01:18:19,122 --> 01:18:21,882
And it's a projection
based on what I mean,

1689
01:18:21,882 --> 01:18:26,567
that is directly
impacting general fund

1690
01:18:26,567 --> 01:18:31,032
So yeah, the interest is
allocated across all the funds

1691
01:18:31,032 --> 01:18:33,882
depending on how
much cash they carry.

1692
01:18:33,882 --> 01:18:39,972
So every month, we reevaluate
the cash balances and allocate

1693
01:18:39,972 --> 01:18:43,512
the interest
appropriately across cash

1694
01:18:43,512 --> 01:18:48,132
balances of the question.

1695
01:18:48,132 --> 01:18:51,313
Before I move on to the budget
All right, Let's tack well,

1696
01:18:51,313 --> 01:18:54,072
one last comment just
called to the liquor

1697
01:18:54,072 --> 01:18:57,792
store because we challenged them
last year with the $350,000.

1698
01:18:57,792 --> 01:18:59,862
And to be able to pull
that off a pretty big deal.

1699
01:18:59,862 --> 01:19:02,384
Yeah, they did very well Good.

1700
01:19:02,384 --> 01:19:03,102
Very well.

1701
01:19:03,102 --> 01:19:03,852
In Carlin's here.

1702
01:19:03,852 --> 01:19:06,714
Can you talk about the online.

1703
01:19:06,714 --> 01:19:09,612
The online ordering?

1704
01:19:09,612 --> 01:19:12,612
Oh, it's really launched
the online store.

1705
01:19:12,612 --> 01:19:14,982
There's been a few kinks
that we've had to work out,

1706
01:19:14,982 --> 01:19:17,922
so I haven't like it push of
like, getting it out there

1707
01:19:17,922 --> 01:19:19,782
with finance department
and how to record

1708
01:19:19,782 --> 01:19:23,382
it into our financial software.

1709
01:19:23,382 --> 01:19:25,632
Well, we've gotten a few
orders for in the month of July

1710
01:19:25,632 --> 01:19:26,562
about six of them.

1711
01:19:26,562 --> 01:19:31,632
So now we I think we got it kind
of figured out and can start

1712
01:19:31,632 --> 01:19:34,062
taking more online orders.

1713
01:19:34,062 --> 01:19:35,742
Only store one is doing it.

1714
01:19:35,742 --> 01:19:38,180
The big store at so
we'll see advanced order

1715
01:19:38,180 --> 01:19:41,472
and just pick it up and go
online do online shopping.

1716
01:19:41,472 --> 01:19:42,822
We put it all together.

1717
01:19:42,822 --> 01:19:44,652
They just come in
verify their ID.

1718
01:19:44,652 --> 01:19:48,222
That is the person that
purchased it and all the door,

1719
01:19:48,222 --> 01:19:51,852
they can go, okay,
all right Sounds good.

1720
01:19:51,852 --> 01:19:54,010
I like it.

1721
01:19:54,010 --> 01:19:55,482
As long as they're of made.

1722
01:19:55,482 --> 01:19:58,332
Yes Thank you.

1723
01:19:58,332 --> 01:19:59,022
Thank you.

1724
01:19:59,022 --> 01:19:59,522
All right.

1725
01:19:59,522 --> 01:20:01,902
Can we get to the
budget conversation

1726
01:20:01,902 --> 01:20:04,572
Let's let's get this audience
Got one more question?

1727
01:20:04,572 --> 01:20:05,652
Yeah, yeah.

1728
01:20:05,652 --> 01:20:13,542
Just try to tackle now
So, mayor and council,

1729
01:20:13,542 --> 01:20:16,782
we've implemented the new
levy tracking mechanism

1730
01:20:16,782 --> 01:20:20,292
to provide the council with a
clearer understanding of how

1731
01:20:20,292 --> 01:20:22,392
the proposed levy
is being developed

1732
01:20:22,392 --> 01:20:28,872
and how individual adjust
affect the overall levy

1733
01:20:28,872 --> 01:20:32,892
on you can you show the chair
and I'm sorry to interrupt you.

1734
01:20:32,892 --> 01:20:34,572
Could you pull your
microphone closer?

1735
01:20:34,572 --> 01:20:39,102
Yes Everything in here,
I can So on this form,

1736
01:20:39,102 --> 01:20:43,962
it starts out with
the levy from 2026

1737
01:20:43,962 --> 01:21:04,572
and then the with
so it starts out

1738
01:21:04,572 --> 01:21:11,892
with levy from 2026, which in
general fund was 6.6 million.

1739
01:21:11,892 --> 01:21:22,452
And then that is adapted using
percentages from the county

1740
01:21:22,452 --> 01:21:26,592
So the county had provided us
with a new construct action

1741
01:21:26,592 --> 01:21:30,492
values and estimated
market values

1742
01:21:30,492 --> 01:21:38,472
and using their percentage goes
to calculate how much the 2026

1743
01:21:38,472 --> 01:21:42,252
would increase by
those percentages

1744
01:21:42,252 --> 01:21:45,942
to get to keep us on
track going forward

1745
01:21:45,942 --> 01:21:51,582
So the new construction one
is one that I would highly

1746
01:21:51,582 --> 01:21:58,032
encourage never diminishing,
because that's new houses that

1747
01:21:58,032 --> 01:22:01,272
are built the new
property taxes coming in,

1748
01:22:01,272 --> 01:22:04,662
the home values is the estimate.

1749
01:22:04,662 --> 01:22:08,778
The market value that
has changed on the homes

1750
01:22:08,778 --> 01:22:12,282
starting between 26 and 27.

1751
01:22:12,282 --> 01:22:17,652
And that amount you
can see is 315,000.

1752
01:22:17,652 --> 01:22:22,422
And then if you scroll down to
the bottom there are percentages

1753
01:22:22,422 --> 01:22:26,532
down at the bottom,
you can see the 1.93 is

1754
01:22:26,532 --> 01:22:28,992
the percentage of new growth.

1755
01:22:28,992 --> 01:22:37,962
And then the 4.7 is the percent
Each of market adjustment

1756
01:22:37,962 --> 01:22:41,712
with the total being the 6.69.

1757
01:22:41,712 --> 01:22:43,962
That is slightly off
from what the county

1758
01:22:43,962 --> 01:22:48,162
has the county and 6.68.

1759
01:22:48,162 --> 01:22:50,982
I could not get my
percentages to roll

1760
01:22:50,982 --> 01:22:56,472
the right way so it's off
by 100th of a percent.

1761
01:22:56,472 --> 01:23:03,522
But if you go back up
the next columns have

1762
01:23:03,522 --> 01:23:06,222
the different new projects.

1763
01:23:06,222 --> 01:23:09,972
So i have four columns,
but we only use three.

1764
01:23:09,972 --> 01:23:15,072
There's support for equipment,
there's staffing increases,

1765
01:23:15,072 --> 01:23:17,952
and then there's
support to parks.

1766
01:23:17,952 --> 01:23:20,742
And those would
all be new monies

1767
01:23:20,742 --> 01:23:24,762
And so then you if you
go further to the right,

1768
01:23:24,762 --> 01:23:29,502
it shows you how much
that takes the levy up.

1769
01:23:29,502 --> 01:23:36,732
And so the general fund levy
would come in that 7.6 million

1770
01:23:36,732 --> 01:23:41,082
and off to the right is 15.11%.

1771
01:23:41,082 --> 01:23:47,442
By the time you add in the debt
that is occurring for the year,

1772
01:23:47,442 --> 01:23:55,422
it brings it to 15.67
and then the EDA

1773
01:23:55,422 --> 01:24:02,172
is included on there and
the percentages for the EDA

1774
01:24:02,172 --> 01:24:11,292
and the total deal with that is
14.81 increase over prior year

1775
01:24:11,292 --> 01:24:17,532
Now this is a format that is
to show where the amounts are

1776
01:24:17,532 --> 01:24:27,222
and can be adjusted in order to
hit a levy that is more in line

1777
01:24:27,222 --> 01:24:36,162
with what city Council is hoping
to achieve So if in discussion

1778
01:24:36,162 --> 01:24:40,122
with the advisory council, they
had said that their preference

1779
01:24:40,122 --> 01:24:45,822
would be equipment them
personnel and then the parks

1780
01:24:45,822 --> 01:24:48,522
And so as we go along,

1781
01:24:48,522 --> 01:24:53,562
that would be the priority
given to those different items

1782
01:24:53,562 --> 01:25:04,692
and so i've kind of
jumped ahead on my thing.

1783
01:25:04,692 --> 01:25:10,182
So let me get back on track
So including these new funding

1784
01:25:10,182 --> 01:25:13,122
priorities, the proposed
increase in tax levy

1785
01:25:13,122 --> 01:25:16,722
would be approximately 15.67%.

1786
01:25:16,722 --> 01:25:19,542
But we're continuing
to evaluate this

1787
01:25:19,542 --> 01:25:27,552
and make adjustments to
reduce the overall increase

1788
01:25:27,552 --> 01:25:28,514
for additions.

1789
01:25:28,514 --> 01:25:30,042
No context to this.

1790
01:25:30,042 --> 01:25:36,672
The proposed general fund budget
expenses totaled 10.6 million,

1791
01:25:36,672 --> 01:25:39,942
including the requested
equipment staffing and park

1792
01:25:39,942 --> 01:25:44,022
improvements This
represents an 8.31

1793
01:25:44,022 --> 01:25:50,412
increase over the 26 General
Fund budget expenses of 9.8.

1794
01:25:50,412 --> 01:25:54,792
Some of that, obviously is
offset by other revenue sources

1795
01:25:54,792 --> 01:25:58,212
but I believe right now
i have about 3 million

1796
01:25:58,212 --> 01:26:03,704
in other revenue
sources each year.

1797
01:26:03,704 --> 01:26:06,792
So this stuff reviews the
city's financial position.

1798
01:26:06,792 --> 01:26:09,072
Service demands
infrastructure needs

1799
01:26:09,072 --> 01:26:11,232
and projected
growth to determine

1800
01:26:11,232 --> 01:26:13,242
an appropriate tax levy.

1801
01:26:13,242 --> 01:26:17,022
The objective is to provide
sufficient resources

1802
01:26:17,022 --> 01:26:19,602
to meet the city's
growing needs while being

1803
01:26:19,602 --> 01:26:23,232
mindful of the financial
impact on taxpayers.

1804
01:26:23,232 --> 01:26:25,272
As North Branch
continues to grow,

1805
01:26:25,272 --> 01:26:29,202
the city's responsibilities
and community expectations also

1806
01:26:29,202 --> 01:26:33,942
grew the city must maintain
the services residents rely on

1807
01:26:33,942 --> 01:26:37,812
while making responsible
investments in roads, facilities

1808
01:26:37,812 --> 01:26:41,652
parks, equipment and other
infrastructure The budget

1809
01:26:41,652 --> 01:26:45,852
discussion is often really about
finding the appropriate balance

1810
01:26:45,852 --> 01:26:49,302
between maintain iNG the
level of service expected

1811
01:26:49,302 --> 01:26:52,427
by the community, addressing
critical equipment,

1812
01:26:52,427 --> 01:26:56,802
infrastructure needs, investing
in parks and other community

1813
01:26:56,802 --> 01:26:59,472
assets, providing
adequate staffing

1814
01:26:59,472 --> 01:27:03,612
to port city operations
and future growth.

1815
01:27:03,612 --> 01:27:06,822
Preparing financially
for long term needs

1816
01:27:06,822 --> 01:27:11,142
and being responsible
stewards of taxpayer dollars

1817
01:27:11,142 --> 01:27:12,935
The goal is to ensure
that North branch

1818
01:27:12,935 --> 01:27:16,878
remains a community, which can
be proud of not only today.

1819
01:27:16,878 --> 01:27:18,692
But for future generations.

1820
01:27:18,692 --> 01:27:21,582
At this stage of
the budget process,

1821
01:27:21,582 --> 01:27:23,862
staff are seeking
feedback and direction

1822
01:27:23,862 --> 01:27:27,282
from City Council regarding
the proposed budget funding

1823
01:27:27,282 --> 01:27:29,172
priorities and
preferred approach

1824
01:27:29,172 --> 01:27:32,742
to the levy and potential pay.

1825
01:27:32,742 --> 01:27:37,932
Particular council direction
and the relative price already

1826
01:27:37,932 --> 01:27:40,962
of staffing, equipment
and park improvements

1827
01:27:40,962 --> 01:27:45,162
will help refine the proposed
budget levy as listed city moves

1828
01:27:45,162 --> 01:27:47,232
forward with the
budget development

1829
01:27:47,232 --> 01:27:54,312
process Finance Advisory
yeah, a couple of questions

1830
01:27:54,312 --> 01:27:55,572
So thank you.

1831
01:27:55,572 --> 01:27:56,262
I do like the floor.

1832
01:27:56,262 --> 01:27:58,362
It's much easier
to understand as

1833
01:27:58,362 --> 01:28:01,842
far as the additions, but just
a quick type of questions.

1834
01:28:01,842 --> 01:28:06,462
The Labor increases year over
year What are we estimating

1835
01:28:06,462 --> 01:28:11,202
for next year in current staff?

1836
01:28:11,202 --> 01:28:14,892
Wage increases not so
much additional headcount

1837
01:28:14,892 --> 01:28:16,542
wage increase, medical?

1838
01:28:16,542 --> 01:28:18,702
Well, the medical is
a separate question

1839
01:28:18,702 --> 01:28:21,282
because the insurance side,
there's two aspects of that.

1840
01:28:21,282 --> 01:28:24,672
Medical insurance plus the
paid family medical leave Act.

1841
01:28:24,672 --> 01:28:29,682
Yeah, I've heard that is
severely underfunded Yes

1842
01:28:29,682 --> 01:28:35,172
So the state has
decided not to increase.

1843
01:28:35,172 --> 01:28:37,392
It doesn't change the
problem But yes, no,

1844
01:28:37,392 --> 01:28:44,202
I agree We are under contract
with MetLife for that.

1845
01:28:44,202 --> 01:28:48,372
And so they work with the
state to make sure that all

1846
01:28:48,372 --> 01:28:51,612
that's handled appropriately.

1847
01:28:51,612 --> 01:28:58,752
So at this time, we are still
expecting the same fee in 27.

1848
01:28:58,752 --> 01:29:02,086
It just means it'll
go up double in 28.

1849
01:29:02,086 --> 01:29:05,213
Yeah when they
negotiate restart.

1850
01:29:05,213 --> 01:29:13,362
So so the salaries and benefits
for 27 are just thunder.

1851
01:29:13,362 --> 01:29:17,687
$6.3 million in 26.

1852
01:29:17,687 --> 01:29:22,452
The budget was approved
at 5.5 million.

1853
01:29:22,452 --> 01:29:26,292
If you took the positions
that were started mid-year

1854
01:29:26,292 --> 01:29:33,432
and extrapolate them to the full
year it comes up to 5.8 million.

1855
01:29:33,432 --> 01:29:39,852
So that would be our
difference between what we had

1856
01:29:39,852 --> 01:29:46,152
and what we're proposing If the
new positions are not approved,

1857
01:29:46,152 --> 01:29:52,692
it would take our Four
27 proposed budget just

1858
01:29:52,692 --> 01:29:57,522
under $6 million.

1859
01:29:57,522 --> 01:30:04,722
Yeah, the question here,
yes, the right one.

1860
01:30:04,722 --> 01:30:07,332
So Sharon, when I look at that.

1861
01:30:07,332 --> 01:30:13,816
That model that you've got up
there your forecasting what

1862
01:30:13,816 --> 01:30:16,902
are increasing
construction, you know,

1863
01:30:16,902 --> 01:30:22,182
value as along with revenue
taxes as well as the increase

1864
01:30:22,182 --> 01:30:25,032
in property values, which is
going to increase, you know,

1865
01:30:25,032 --> 01:30:25,572
taxes.

1866
01:30:25,572 --> 01:30:30,942
And just naturally they just
because of the valuation

1867
01:30:30,942 --> 01:30:34,392
So if I'm looking at that
right, we're at 6.7%.

1868
01:30:34,392 --> 01:30:36,282
If we were to hold the
budget at that, that would be

1869
01:30:36,282 --> 01:30:40,302
the natural increase
right We don't

1870
01:30:40,302 --> 01:30:42,702
know if everybody's property
tax would go up that much,

1871
01:30:42,702 --> 01:30:46,872
but that's over for their
taxes closer to the 4.75.

1872
01:30:46,872 --> 01:30:48,372
But that's just for
the city portion.

1873
01:30:48,372 --> 01:30:52,729
So their total taxes mean
may go up or down from that.

1874
01:30:52,729 --> 01:30:59,067
So here's my question You know,
it's been discussed a lot about,

1875
01:30:59,067 --> 01:31:00,282
you know, keeping the lights on.

1876
01:31:00,282 --> 01:31:00,782
Right?

1877
01:31:00,782 --> 01:31:02,982
I don't like that term because
we have made improvements

1878
01:31:02,982 --> 01:31:04,542
over the last few years.

1879
01:31:04,542 --> 01:31:08,952
So to maintain what we have
right now through 2027,

1880
01:31:08,952 --> 01:31:13,382
what does that
expenditure look like ?

1881
01:31:13,382 --> 01:31:15,855
I feel like we calculated how
much we're going to naturally

1882
01:31:15,855 --> 01:31:19,512
get because of new construction
and increase in property values.

1883
01:31:19,512 --> 01:31:21,492
And I'm kind of just
stopping there for now.

1884
01:31:21,492 --> 01:31:24,492
But if we just
maintain what we have,

1885
01:31:24,492 --> 01:31:25,962
we don't add new
positions, we just

1886
01:31:25,962 --> 01:31:29,802
maintain the standard that we
have this year for next year.

1887
01:31:29,802 --> 01:31:32,112
What is that total number?

1888
01:31:32,112 --> 01:31:37,482
So without any new additions,
the total expenses for the year

1889
01:31:37,482 --> 01:31:40,596
would be $9.8 million.

1890
01:31:40,596 --> 01:31:45,702
OK That's not on
that spreadsheet

1891
01:31:45,702 --> 01:31:52,182
All that's on the
expenditure spreadsheet

1892
01:31:52,182 --> 01:31:53,600
that's in the packet.

1893
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:58,782
Yep Or more detail
on whether or not

1894
01:31:58,782 --> 01:32:19,482
I see it all on all of Monday
months when there is some OK.

1895
01:32:19,482 --> 01:32:20,856
So second to the last column.

1896
01:32:20,856 --> 01:32:21,356
Yeah.

1897
01:32:21,356 --> 01:32:28,273
So okay, scroll down again So
we're looking deeper into that.

1898
01:32:28,273 --> 01:32:28,992
Yeah.

1899
01:32:28,992 --> 01:32:30,522
That's kind of the
reason why I asked

1900
01:32:30,522 --> 01:32:36,612
about the natural march
market increase for boys

1901
01:32:36,612 --> 01:32:38,264
and then the
insurance side of it.

1902
01:32:38,264 --> 01:32:42,642
It basically takes that
property value increase

1903
01:32:42,642 --> 01:32:45,192
portion off the table right?

1904
01:32:45,192 --> 01:32:48,162
So that's just to
keep up right Yeah.

1905
01:32:48,162 --> 01:32:52,422
Okay Okay.

1906
01:32:52,422 --> 01:32:54,642
And this is before we even
understand what these positions,

1907
01:32:54,642 --> 01:32:56,742
what these positions are,
we understand you guys are

1908
01:32:56,742 --> 01:33:00,982
trying to put money aside for
future for equipment purchases,

1909
01:33:00,982 --> 01:33:01,482
right?

1910
01:33:01,482 --> 01:33:06,222
Replacement So it would be
replacement fund of 300,000.

1911
01:33:06,222 --> 01:33:11,502
That would only be enough to
continue to purchase equipment.

1912
01:33:11,502 --> 01:33:15,402
As for the year of
2027, that would not

1913
01:33:15,402 --> 01:33:20,787
be enough to roll it forward.

1914
01:33:20,787 --> 01:33:23,180
Yeah the 300 grand you
you're referring to is.

1915
01:33:23,180 --> 01:33:24,720
So we wouldn't
have to do a bond.

1916
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,862
The future like we did
this right for equipment.

1917
01:33:26,862 --> 01:33:29,360
But this is a replacement
fund you brought up last year.

1918
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:29,860
Correct.

1919
01:33:29,860 --> 01:33:30,360
OK.

1920
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:30,998
We wanted.

1921
01:33:30,998 --> 01:33:32,016
Yeah like 150.

1922
01:33:32,016 --> 01:33:33,033
Yeah, correct.

1923
01:33:33,033 --> 01:33:35,652
Or 50,000 last year, did
we put anything towards it?

1924
01:33:35,652 --> 01:33:36,292
I don't remember.

1925
01:33:36,292 --> 01:33:36,792
No.

1926
01:33:36,792 --> 01:33:37,292
We did.

1927
01:33:37,292 --> 01:33:41,382
We removed this
stuff as a 0 to 300.

1928
01:33:41,382 --> 01:33:43,092
I wish we could
incrementally get.

1929
01:33:43,092 --> 01:33:46,722
Yes Yeah, I shot for
100,000 last year.

1930
01:33:46,722 --> 01:33:50,022
Yeah I this is tough.

1931
01:33:50,022 --> 01:33:52,452
You know, I you get all new
numbers new inflation numbers

1932
01:33:52,452 --> 01:33:54,104
came out and in
July was three point

1933
01:33:54,104 --> 01:33:59,262
some percent increase in over
last year and everybody's

1934
01:33:59,262 --> 01:34:00,222
falling behind.

1935
01:34:00,222 --> 01:34:03,911
You know I just i am struggling
with this because we've had Five

1936
01:34:03,911 --> 01:34:05,579
at least five years of this.

1937
01:34:05,579 --> 01:34:06,294
I think.

1938
01:34:06,294 --> 01:34:09,252
Yeah, I just don't know
how we and again, I

1939
01:34:09,252 --> 01:34:11,832
guess I'm sort pots
right for another topic

1940
01:34:11,832 --> 01:34:15,762
I just feel like we need
to pause on any major idea

1941
01:34:15,762 --> 01:34:18,102
additions to our budget.

1942
01:34:18,102 --> 01:34:20,502
I just I think
people are hurting

1943
01:34:20,502 --> 01:34:22,138
and it's been going
on for a while.

1944
01:34:22,138 --> 01:34:25,842
And I just I don't know that
it's fair to ask them to.

1945
01:34:25,842 --> 01:34:28,602
And I'm all about understand
what our community values are.

1946
01:34:28,602 --> 01:34:30,089
What do we want for
services, right?

1947
01:34:30,089 --> 01:34:32,022
I mean, I think that's how we
should determine our budget.

1948
01:34:32,022 --> 01:34:33,342
You mentioned it's
a balancing act,

1949
01:34:33,342 --> 01:34:36,882
but this is kind of a another
tough year Well, I look

1950
01:34:36,882 --> 01:34:39,202
at it as a maintain versus cut.

1951
01:34:39,202 --> 01:34:39,702
Right?

1952
01:34:39,702 --> 01:34:40,202
Right.

1953
01:34:40,202 --> 01:34:43,302
So I think a lot of
the different funds

1954
01:34:43,302 --> 01:34:46,452
that we have would still have
money to redo roads and continue

1955
01:34:46,452 --> 01:34:49,122
to replace the police
cars and things like that

1956
01:34:49,122 --> 01:34:51,897
that we've recently
got back on track.

1957
01:34:51,897 --> 01:34:54,026
So we wouldn't go
backward right.

1958
01:34:54,026 --> 01:34:57,942
But yeah, I think it's a little
hard for us to go forward.

1959
01:34:57,942 --> 01:35:02,262
I think this is going to tie
into your last item on ten B

1960
01:35:02,262 --> 01:35:05,472
where we kind of highlight
goals for next year and i

1961
01:35:05,472 --> 01:35:07,272
think that's where we should
address some of the rest.

1962
01:35:07,272 --> 01:35:12,282
But for staff
direction and guidance,

1963
01:35:12,282 --> 01:35:16,692
I'm i would wouldn't mind
protecting the 100,000 towards

1964
01:35:16,692 --> 01:35:19,849
the equipment fund But I
don't want to go beyond that,

1965
01:35:19,849 --> 01:35:23,382
especially not knowing what the
county or the school are doing.

1966
01:35:23,382 --> 01:35:25,325
Well, and, you know,
again, we're every city is

1967
01:35:25,325 --> 01:35:26,292
going through this right now.

1968
01:35:26,292 --> 01:35:28,852
I think Minneapolis just talking
about laying off on people

1969
01:35:28,852 --> 01:35:32,472
and, you know $30 million
debt, you know, that they've

1970
01:35:32,472 --> 01:35:33,282
got to try to make up.

1971
01:35:33,282 --> 01:35:37,362
And I think I saw today that
these will be 60 million.

1972
01:35:37,362 --> 01:35:40,583
I think there's another city
of St Paul struggling to zero

1973
01:35:40,583 --> 01:35:41,689
I'm not saying we're them.

1974
01:35:41,689 --> 01:35:44,157
I mean, I think we're
taking a different approach.

1975
01:35:44,157 --> 01:35:44,657
Correct.

1976
01:35:44,657 --> 01:35:47,682
But staying ahead of it
is how we can not it?

1977
01:35:47,682 --> 01:35:48,972
Yeah Yeah.

1978
01:35:48,972 --> 01:35:49,851
I mean, we're planning.

1979
01:35:49,851 --> 01:35:50,442
I'm sorry.

1980
01:35:50,442 --> 01:35:51,162
Go ahead.

1981
01:35:51,162 --> 01:35:53,322
I was just going to
ask you to that group

1982
01:35:53,322 --> 01:35:58,452
or maybe the Nate 175 to
the sport, to the parks.

1983
01:35:58,452 --> 01:36:03,012
What you know, Parks has
their own fund, right?

1984
01:36:03,012 --> 01:36:06,133
And there's money that's put in
there when there's development

1985
01:36:06,133 --> 01:36:07,992
park dedication fees and etc..

1986
01:36:07,992 --> 01:36:08,638
So.

1987
01:36:08,638 --> 01:36:10,929
So is it more context in.

1988
01:36:10,929 --> 01:36:12,528
Give briefly about that.

1989
01:36:12,528 --> 01:36:13,221
Sure.

1990
01:36:13,221 --> 01:36:15,952
So the current funding structure
for our park improvements

1991
01:36:15,952 --> 01:36:21,642
for a new 4, any new development
is through park subdivision Park

1992
01:36:21,642 --> 01:36:23,232
dedication through
subdivision development

1993
01:36:23,232 --> 01:36:25,692
and so when a new development
comes into the community,

1994
01:36:25,692 --> 01:36:29,592
our review it to see if there's
if we have the ability as a city

1995
01:36:29,592 --> 01:36:34,332
by state statute to accept cash,
land or a combination thereof.

1996
01:36:34,332 --> 01:36:37,832
And so with that, based off
of the number of units we get,

1997
01:36:37,832 --> 01:36:39,132
you know, whatever
the fee schedule is,

1998
01:36:39,132 --> 01:36:41,112
it's currently $1,800 per lots.

1999
01:36:41,112 --> 01:36:46,182
And that goes into a fee or
into a funding fund account.

2000
01:36:46,182 --> 01:36:48,282
And that money by
state statute can only

2001
01:36:48,282 --> 01:36:50,292
be utilized for
park improvements

2002
01:36:50,292 --> 01:36:53,802
for a new acquisition
and development.

2003
01:36:53,802 --> 01:36:57,277
If we do acquire
land for development

2004
01:36:57,277 --> 01:36:58,675
So like in Wilder
Arts for example,

2005
01:36:58,675 --> 01:36:59,898
that we acquired land for that.

2006
01:36:59,898 --> 01:37:03,462
And so we don't we cannot accept
additional cash above and beyond

2007
01:37:03,462 --> 01:37:08,472
that land requirement And so if
we don't have new developments,

2008
01:37:08,472 --> 01:37:11,862
we don't have any, any funds
essentially to improve new

2009
01:37:11,862 --> 01:37:17,532
acquisition of our development
$175,000 specifically,

2010
01:37:17,532 --> 01:37:18,892
we've talked about.

2011
01:37:18,892 --> 01:37:19,392
Sure.

2012
01:37:19,392 --> 01:37:22,452
Hill mentioned the
Elephant Avenue Trail We

2013
01:37:22,452 --> 01:37:25,032
have over $825,000 of grants.

2014
01:37:25,032 --> 01:37:26,772
We received for that
project to date,

2015
01:37:26,772 --> 01:37:29,232
and we want to make
sure that we can make

2016
01:37:29,232 --> 01:37:30,972
sure that project is completed.

2017
01:37:30,972 --> 01:37:35,352
So Nate, I think that 175
has been in the budget

2018
01:37:35,352 --> 01:37:37,332
for three years.

2019
01:37:37,332 --> 01:37:39,192
Yeah, we've i don't
think it's made it yet.

2020
01:37:39,192 --> 01:37:41,682
Yeah, we've been,
we've been trying to,

2021
01:37:41,682 --> 01:37:45,566
you know, honestly, for I
mean, for several years,

2022
01:37:45,566 --> 01:37:47,682
trying to find another funding
mechanism because we know

2023
01:37:47,682 --> 01:37:50,271
that subdivision
development I mean,

2024
01:37:50,271 --> 01:37:53,562
you can't just rely on that
to improve our parks You know,

2025
01:37:53,562 --> 01:37:56,172
we hear from the
associations all the time.

2026
01:37:56,172 --> 01:37:57,432
How can we support them?

2027
01:37:57,432 --> 01:37:58,422
And without it?

2028
01:37:58,422 --> 01:38:00,162
Because we aren't
using general tax

2029
01:38:00,162 --> 01:38:02,056
levy dollars for
new improvements.

2030
01:38:02,056 --> 01:38:03,822
That's just for the
maintenance of them.

2031
01:38:03,822 --> 01:38:06,372
And so we're trying to
find some sort of way

2032
01:38:06,372 --> 01:38:11,052
to be able to assist
with that extent

2033
01:38:11,052 --> 01:38:13,968
So we don't know what the
revenue is for the campus

2034
01:38:13,968 --> 01:38:15,522
for charitable gaming, right.

2035
01:38:15,522 --> 01:38:20,202
But why can't we factor
that into that 175 somehow?

2036
01:38:20,202 --> 01:38:21,852
Yeah, I think we have
the ability to do that.

2037
01:38:21,852 --> 01:38:23,825
Once the funding is
there, once it comes in.

2038
01:38:23,825 --> 01:38:25,722
And I know we're not going
to know for a full year

2039
01:38:25,722 --> 01:38:26,952
kind of how it's going to go.

2040
01:38:26,952 --> 01:38:29,922
But we'll have some idea anyway.

2041
01:38:29,922 --> 01:38:32,592
But Mayor, I think that's
a great idea as far as it's

2042
01:38:32,592 --> 01:38:35,142
a flexible fund, that way
we can kind of dedicate

2043
01:38:35,142 --> 01:38:37,572
the amount we receive
or a percentage thereof

2044
01:38:37,572 --> 01:38:39,732
and manage it that way.

2045
01:38:39,732 --> 01:38:42,522
Well, then it's not the end
just strictly on the backs

2046
01:38:42,522 --> 01:38:43,932
of you know, property taxes.

2047
01:38:43,932 --> 01:38:44,622
Yeah, correct.

2048
01:38:44,622 --> 01:38:47,292
And it's also the right intent
for that fund we created.

2049
01:38:47,292 --> 01:38:48,612
Right.

2050
01:38:48,612 --> 01:38:55,212
Okay Matthew, Sharon, what else
do you need from us right now?

2051
01:38:55,212 --> 01:38:58,272
This is you know, this is
the preliminary preliminary.

2052
01:38:58,272 --> 01:39:00,012
So we're in a process right now.

2053
01:39:00,012 --> 01:39:01,992
We wanted to bring
everything to the council's

2054
01:39:01,992 --> 01:39:03,162
attention, the full budget.

2055
01:39:03,162 --> 01:39:06,492
Where we're standing right now
This will then be going back

2056
01:39:06,492 --> 01:39:08,535
to the finance advisory
with the feedback

2057
01:39:08,535 --> 01:39:09,702
that we're getting
from the council

2058
01:39:09,702 --> 01:39:13,220
this evening preparing
for our September

2059
01:39:13,220 --> 01:39:17,472
of preliminary budget Yeah.

2060
01:39:17,472 --> 01:39:21,042
And can i just add to that too,
for that September for summary

2061
01:39:21,042 --> 01:39:23,442
budget, we'll probably approve
a number a little higher than

2062
01:39:23,442 --> 01:39:26,592
we're talking about right now
because we cannot go above

2063
01:39:26,592 --> 01:39:28,126
that number for any reason.

2064
01:39:28,126 --> 01:39:30,128
So if we have insurance
spikes or whatever,

2065
01:39:30,128 --> 01:39:33,402
it comes back late we would
have to take that out of staff

2066
01:39:33,402 --> 01:39:35,682
or somewhere else to
cover that cost correct?

2067
01:39:35,682 --> 01:39:39,822
That's correct We
might Final intent.

2068
01:39:39,822 --> 01:39:42,642
Intent would be closer
to that $100,000 towards

2069
01:39:42,642 --> 01:39:44,562
the equipment fund to
try and to your point,

2070
01:39:44,562 --> 01:39:46,362
get some of that going.

2071
01:39:46,362 --> 01:39:48,522
But I think we
should in September,

2072
01:39:48,522 --> 01:39:50,708
vote a little higher on that
just to prepare ourselves

2073
01:39:50,708 --> 01:39:53,622
in case we get surprised
by something else Well,

2074
01:39:53,622 --> 01:39:55,002
it'd be nice if you're
hearing something

2075
01:39:55,002 --> 01:39:56,502
about what the medical.

2076
01:39:56,502 --> 01:39:58,692
Yeah, another 20% increase
or whatever that looks

2077
01:39:58,692 --> 01:40:01,812
like just from the employee
benefits standpoint

2078
01:40:01,812 --> 01:40:03,104
It's a big chunk of
our budget right?

2079
01:40:03,104 --> 01:40:05,922
What is the best guesstimate
that we're hearing?

2080
01:40:05,922 --> 01:40:08,292
I know we don't usually
find out till October.

2081
01:40:08,292 --> 01:40:09,102
Correct.

2082
01:40:09,102 --> 01:40:10,932
Actually, with the 40
Niners now we won't

2083
01:40:10,932 --> 01:40:12,102
hear until after the new year.

2084
01:40:12,102 --> 01:40:16,782
So we need to be very
aware of the plan

2085
01:40:16,782 --> 01:40:19,422
that we move towards last year.

2086
01:40:19,422 --> 01:40:23,682
So the renewal actually
isn't until until March which

2087
01:40:23,682 --> 01:40:29,832
with the person the change
would occur in March

2088
01:40:29,832 --> 01:40:33,792
we did hear before open
enrollment last year.

2089
01:40:33,792 --> 01:40:36,408
What they thought it would be.

2090
01:40:36,408 --> 01:40:38,666
But they wouldn't guarantee it.

2091
01:40:38,666 --> 01:40:41,652
And we're not getting any
more updates this year

2092
01:40:41,652 --> 01:40:48,042
going into looking at March,
we will probably hear something

2093
01:40:48,042 --> 01:40:51,102
towards as I think
we usually do, open

2094
01:40:51,102 --> 01:40:54,072
enrollment around Thanksgiving.

2095
01:40:54,072 --> 01:40:56,742
And so we'll probably
have a tentative number

2096
01:40:56,742 --> 01:41:03,132
around Thanksgiving, but it's
I know, way solid, right?

2097
01:41:03,132 --> 01:41:04,395
It gives us something
to go off of.

2098
01:41:04,395 --> 01:41:04,895
Yeah.

2099
01:41:04,895 --> 01:41:07,032
OK What's good guy.

2100
01:41:07,032 --> 01:41:08,172
Yeah.

2101
01:41:08,172 --> 01:41:09,012
Yeah.

2102
01:41:09,012 --> 01:41:12,751
Councilmember i just want to
make sure we're i appreciate

2103
01:41:12,751 --> 01:41:16,632
the work you guys do,
so I just want to again,

2104
01:41:16,632 --> 01:41:19,122
when you said the
100,000, but before,

2105
01:41:19,122 --> 01:41:21,432
you're also talking
about ensuring

2106
01:41:21,432 --> 01:41:26,652
that we're matching or budgeting
for those staffing increases.

2107
01:41:26,652 --> 01:41:29,386
So that we're not falling
behind on that increase,

2108
01:41:29,386 --> 01:41:33,132
or is that. basically covering
the cost of the staff We added

2109
01:41:33,132 --> 01:41:36,072
last year with the 26
and 27, would that be

2110
01:41:36,072 --> 01:41:37,733
an additional add of headcount?

2111
01:41:37,733 --> 01:41:40,174
OK But that we're
covering that, correct.

2112
01:41:40,174 --> 01:41:40,674
OK.

2113
01:41:40,674 --> 01:41:42,672
But not going under OK.

2114
01:41:42,672 --> 01:41:43,272
Thank you.

2115
01:41:43,272 --> 01:41:44,072
That makes sense.

2116
01:41:44,072 --> 01:41:46,422
Yeah, that makes
sense All right.

2117
01:41:46,422 --> 01:41:50,022
Now the questions for
staff And if we do,

2118
01:41:50,022 --> 01:41:51,245
we can obviously
send them to share.

2119
01:41:51,245 --> 01:41:52,812
And I'll probably request
to sit down with you,

2120
01:41:52,812 --> 01:41:57,066
kind of go through things bit
more thoroughly, I guess on.

2121
01:41:57,066 --> 01:41:59,742
We've been and lot of
Lee thinking of doing

2122
01:41:59,742 --> 01:42:01,662
a work session next Wednesday.

2123
01:42:01,662 --> 01:42:09,192
I don't know if that's still
enough for you Can we schedule

2124
01:42:09,192 --> 01:42:15,012
our advisory committee before
then I can probably make it work

2125
01:42:15,012 --> 01:42:21,551
whenever you guys have the
time so All right, well,

2126
01:42:21,551 --> 01:42:23,992
let's we keep asking questions.

2127
01:42:23,992 --> 01:42:24,492
Yeah.

2128
01:42:24,492 --> 01:42:25,412
All right.

2129
01:42:25,412 --> 01:42:26,112
Let's keep moving on.

2130
01:42:26,112 --> 01:42:30,552
The last two won't be too long,
so under mayor City Council

2131
01:42:30,552 --> 01:42:31,152
Thank you, Sharon.

2132
01:42:31,152 --> 01:42:32,922
Appreciate that.

2133
01:42:32,922 --> 01:42:35,922
So I brought this up last year
about the idea of a city gala

2134
01:42:35,922 --> 01:42:42,852
and in my mind, the idea
is to provide recognition

2135
01:42:42,852 --> 01:42:45,252
for community members that
maybe are achieving something

2136
01:42:45,252 --> 01:42:50,652
special volunteer type stuff
achievements for the city.

2137
01:42:50,652 --> 01:42:52,362
You know, part of
it, too, the thought

2138
01:42:52,362 --> 01:42:55,751
was to share history right?

2139
01:42:55,751 --> 01:42:57,084
Because people have
postings on Facebook

2140
01:42:57,084 --> 01:42:58,636
all the time and all that.

2141
01:42:58,636 --> 01:43:00,187
The history buffs,
and people that

2142
01:43:00,187 --> 01:43:01,242
haven't lived here too long.

2143
01:43:01,242 --> 01:43:02,442
I mean, I've been
there 15 years,

2144
01:43:02,442 --> 01:43:05,202
but to just share that
kind of history, I think

2145
01:43:05,202 --> 01:43:08,462
helps us as a community
just be a little bit closer

2146
01:43:08,462 --> 01:43:09,822
to understand kind
of where we've been,

2147
01:43:09,822 --> 01:43:14,797
where we're at You know, we
always talk about the challenges

2148
01:43:14,797 --> 01:43:15,411
the problems.

2149
01:43:15,411 --> 01:43:16,640
It feels like we're
always talking

2150
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:17,663
about the negative stuff.

2151
01:43:17,663 --> 01:43:20,346
And we have so many more
positive things going on

2152
01:43:20,346 --> 01:43:22,397
And I think this
is an opportunity

2153
01:43:22,397 --> 01:43:25,182
once a year to showcase
share kind of the good things

2154
01:43:25,182 --> 01:43:26,292
are going on with our community.

2155
01:43:26,292 --> 01:43:30,252
So that's kind of what's
driving this for me to say,

2156
01:43:30,252 --> 01:43:33,402
hey, we should take time
out to provide recognition

2157
01:43:33,402 --> 01:43:35,682
and share these
things to i don't

2158
01:43:35,682 --> 01:43:36,682
know how much that would cost.

2159
01:43:36,682 --> 01:43:37,860
I mean, I kind of brought it up.

2160
01:43:37,860 --> 01:43:39,819
Last year, kind of have
an idea but I'm just

2161
01:43:39,819 --> 01:43:41,052
trying to figure
out from the council

2162
01:43:41,052 --> 01:43:42,492
if that's something you
guys be interested in.

2163
01:43:42,492 --> 01:43:43,725
You'd have to have
an answer tonight.

2164
01:43:43,725 --> 01:43:46,835
We can come back in
the second meeting.

2165
01:43:46,835 --> 01:43:48,368
You can make it into a
fundraising fundraiser.

2166
01:43:48,368 --> 01:43:50,634
I mean, it could be like a
little something like that.

2167
01:43:50,634 --> 01:43:54,312
But try to raise some money
to maybe offset the cost.

2168
01:43:54,312 --> 01:43:59,276
But but also provide donation,
but potentially Matthew.

2169
01:43:59,276 --> 01:43:59,776
Thank you.

2170
01:43:59,776 --> 01:44:01,692
Mayor, I would like
to put together

2171
01:44:01,692 --> 01:44:04,722
a some like an informational
packet for the city

2172
01:44:04,722 --> 01:44:08,052
council in regards to gala's,
what you can do as a city, what

2173
01:44:08,052 --> 01:44:10,572
you can't do,
fundraisers you can't do,

2174
01:44:10,572 --> 01:44:12,282
but you can partner
with somebody else

2175
01:44:12,282 --> 01:44:14,412
within the nonprofit,
within the community

2176
01:44:14,412 --> 01:44:17,097
to provide an a
fundraising opportunity

2177
01:44:17,097 --> 01:44:18,447
as part of that project.

2178
01:44:18,447 --> 01:44:20,452
So if it's all right,
I'd like to put

2179
01:44:20,452 --> 01:44:21,319
together some information.

2180
01:44:21,319 --> 01:44:24,972
That'd be great Looking
forward to that.

2181
01:44:24,972 --> 01:44:26,112
Yeah Yeah.

2182
01:44:26,112 --> 01:44:28,632
I would think I would
ask Matthew also

2183
01:44:28,632 --> 01:44:34,002
to put in some type
of who's going who

2184
01:44:34,002 --> 01:44:35,542
is potentially setting this up.

2185
01:44:35,542 --> 01:44:36,042
Right.

2186
01:44:36,042 --> 01:44:38,082
What are we going
to be asking staff

2187
01:44:38,082 --> 01:44:41,022
to cut the project for
two months or six months

2188
01:44:41,022 --> 01:44:42,132
to put this together?

2189
01:44:42,132 --> 01:44:44,892
Or who are those potential
community partners that we've

2190
01:44:44,892 --> 01:44:47,412
worked with You know,
immediately think

2191
01:44:47,412 --> 01:44:50,502
about the Legion and
we're asking Paul to take

2192
01:44:50,502 --> 01:44:52,542
on another project between
that and the school

2193
01:44:52,542 --> 01:44:56,956
board and the chamber and all
those other entities I know when

2194
01:44:56,956 --> 01:45:02,802
we started on the memorial back
in or whatever it was you know,

2195
01:45:02,802 --> 01:45:04,629
that's how it started.

2196
01:45:04,629 --> 01:45:06,162
I mean I shouldn't say
that's what it started.

2197
01:45:06,162 --> 01:45:08,234
That's when we got the momentum
to move it to Central Park

2198
01:45:08,234 --> 01:45:11,262
because we got a lot of these,
you know, partners in a room

2199
01:45:11,262 --> 01:45:14,209
act it out and came up
with that plan You know,

2200
01:45:14,209 --> 01:45:17,292
the beautification group
they were leading it then,

2201
01:45:17,292 --> 01:45:19,092
but then how do we
get those next step?

2202
01:45:19,092 --> 01:45:21,665
So I would think
maybe whether it's

2203
01:45:21,665 --> 01:45:25,942
roadmap potential partners
Yeah, because we can't I

2204
01:45:25,942 --> 01:45:26,442
can't see you.

2205
01:45:26,442 --> 01:45:29,202
It's like, hey to
put this on correctly

2206
01:45:29,202 --> 01:45:33,946
and appropriately, I think where
we would want it to to showcase

2207
01:45:33,946 --> 01:45:37,492
the city, that's a planning.

2208
01:45:37,492 --> 01:45:37,992
Yeah.

2209
01:45:37,992 --> 01:45:41,322
So that's where my mind is at.

2210
01:45:41,322 --> 01:45:43,261
I, I agree My word.

2211
01:45:43,261 --> 01:45:46,736
Then we, we all say maybe having
a council member assigned to it,

2212
01:45:46,736 --> 01:45:47,284
you know.

2213
01:45:47,284 --> 01:45:48,732
Well, absolutely yeah.

2214
01:45:48,732 --> 01:45:50,915
Because come back to
the council and council

2215
01:45:50,915 --> 01:45:52,252
that were on that group.

2216
01:45:52,252 --> 01:45:52,752
Yeah.

2217
01:45:52,752 --> 01:45:53,922
There you go Yeah.

2218
01:45:53,922 --> 01:45:57,982
And my thought too was to
invite i think, residents.

2219
01:45:57,982 --> 01:45:58,482
Right.

2220
01:45:58,482 --> 01:45:59,652
Because I think
that we get people

2221
01:45:59,652 --> 01:46:01,152
who want to be part of that.

2222
01:46:01,152 --> 01:46:02,082
Yeah, right.

2223
01:46:02,082 --> 01:46:04,812
So i certainly wasn't jumping
not to say staff had to do.

2224
01:46:04,812 --> 01:46:05,322
No, no, no.

2225
01:46:05,322 --> 01:46:07,662
I just i would
want that in order.

2226
01:46:07,662 --> 01:46:10,512
So with that assumed
by here by the public,

2227
01:46:10,512 --> 01:46:12,942
you know, and fighting
like you said.

2228
01:46:12,942 --> 01:46:16,423
Yep, absolutely So
therefore, that's gone.

2229
01:46:16,423 --> 01:46:18,056
It didn't have to be a
long conversation tonight,

2230
01:46:18,056 --> 01:46:19,679
but I just want to bring
it up because I think

2231
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:21,612
it's important for us to share
the good things that happen

2232
01:46:21,612 --> 01:46:23,322
in this community
Too often we dwell

2233
01:46:23,322 --> 01:46:25,932
on the problems
and the negativity

2234
01:46:25,932 --> 01:46:28,122
and there's a lot more
positivity than I think

2235
01:46:28,122 --> 01:46:29,412
that we acknowledge right?

2236
01:46:29,412 --> 01:46:33,552
So if we could move that
direction, that'd be wonderful.

2237
01:46:33,552 --> 01:46:35,082
Council goals for 2027.

2238
01:46:35,082 --> 01:46:36,409
This is just a placeholder.

2239
01:46:36,409 --> 01:46:38,682
Say hey next council meeting.

2240
01:46:38,682 --> 01:46:41,952
I think we should each
bring our ideas top.

2241
01:46:41,952 --> 01:46:43,424
You know, a couple of
things we want to do.

2242
01:46:43,424 --> 01:46:44,704
And then collectively
maybe paired

2243
01:46:44,704 --> 01:46:47,022
on the list to whatever
we can accomplish

2244
01:46:47,022 --> 01:46:49,542
It doesn't have to
necessarily mean money right?

2245
01:46:49,542 --> 01:46:51,882
It could just be a focal point.

2246
01:46:51,882 --> 01:46:53,422
So I just want to
throw that out there

2247
01:46:53,422 --> 01:46:54,822
because as we're talking
about the budget,

2248
01:46:54,822 --> 01:46:58,637
I think this is a good time to
solidify that on the council

2249
01:46:58,637 --> 01:47:01,392
right Makes sense.

2250
01:47:01,392 --> 01:47:03,702
So that's all that's
all I was looking for.

2251
01:47:03,702 --> 01:47:05,532
I got my 1 or 2 things,
you know, that i'll bring.

2252
01:47:05,532 --> 01:47:09,672
But spend more time with
kids sporting events

2253
01:47:09,672 --> 01:47:13,752
and activities All right.

2254
01:47:13,752 --> 01:47:15,125
Oh, okay All right.

2255
01:47:15,125 --> 01:47:15,625
Anything?

2256
01:47:15,625 --> 01:47:17,472
Anybody want to share?

2257
01:47:17,472 --> 01:47:18,132
No, sir.

2258
01:47:18,132 --> 01:47:21,313
No But i'm back on the gal.

2259
01:47:21,313 --> 01:47:22,362
Would you have to worry or not?

2260
01:47:22,362 --> 01:47:25,422
When he's serving
you those you know,

2261
01:47:25,422 --> 01:47:28,242
essentially I do what I
have to for the committee.

2262
01:47:28,242 --> 01:47:30,672
Right All right.

2263
01:47:30,672 --> 01:47:33,672
Well, I'm going to make a motion
to adjourn to have a second.

2264
01:47:33,672 --> 01:47:34,822
Second, Mr. Mayor.

2265
01:47:34,822 --> 01:47:35,322
All right.

2266
01:47:35,322 --> 01:47:38,592
All in favor Signify by saying
I, I, we are now adjourned.

2267
01:47:38,592 --> 01:47:40,592
Thank you, everybody, for coming