[0:11] Hey, Brook. Ottoman Brooks. Go give him
a hug. Go give him
[0:19] a hug.
Give him two hugs when it's all over.
[0:23] Give him two hugs when it's all over.
[0:28] All right. And I'd like to open our city
council meeting up for Monday, June 1st,
[0:34] 2026. I ask that we please stand for the
pledge of allegiance and remain standing
[0:40] for the invocation.
[0:46] to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it
[0:51] stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all.
[0:59] » Let us compare ourselves as you see fit.
Most gracious and heavenly father, Lord,
[1:04] we come to you this day to say thank
you, oh father god, we thank you for
[1:07] keeping us in our right mind. Oh father
god, we thank you for all that you give
[1:11] us each and every moment of of our
lives. Oh father, we thank you for this
[1:16] youth that have come out here today in
support of Benil Math and Science for
[1:21] all the achievements that they have done
and we want to just recognize them, oh
[1:25] Father God, and let them know that they
have more to to build on as they move
[1:30] forward in their lives. Oh Father God,
just let them know that you are with
[1:34] them, oh Father God, and that you will
keep them and guide them, oh Father God.
[1:38] Lord, as we start the city council,
I ask that we do things decent and in
[1:43] order. This is my prayer in your darling
son, Jesus name, and for his sake. Amen.
[1:52] » All right, roll call.
>> Alderman Jackson
[1:57] Coleman.
>> Alderman Evans,
[1:59] » here. Alderman Allen
>> here.
[2:01] » Ray
>> here.
[2:02] » Alman Murphy
>> present.
[2:05] » Present.
>> All right. We have a few things prior to
[2:08] going into our regular business. Uh we
have the gun violence uh awareness
[2:14] month. Could I have a motion and a
second to pass the uh the proclamation?
[2:21] » Move.
>> Second.
[2:22] » It's been moved by Alderman Allen.
second model in Brooks at the
[2:25] proclamation for gun violence awareness
month for June of 2026 and to wear
[2:32] orange on this weekend June 5th through
the 7th in support of gun violence. So,
[2:38] uh there's a motion and a second. Uh do
I is there any questions?
[2:42] Hearing none. Roll call.
>> Alderman Evans
[2:45] » I.
>> Alderman Allen
[2:47] » I. Alderman Ray
>> I.
[2:48] » Alderman Murphy
>> I.
[2:49] » Alderman Brooks
>> I. Motion carried. The second one is a
[2:54] resolution uh in memory of uh Loretta uh
Lynn Wilson. Uh that procla uh that
[3:01] resolution is not ready at this time. I
ask that we please hold it over to the
[3:06] next meeting in in June. Is that okay?
Yes.
[3:09] » I don't think we need a motion for that,
do we? Okay. And the next ones are
[3:14] resolutions for the girls high school
track team and uh the resolution for
[3:21] North Chicago Neo Math and Science track
team. Uh let's do the
[3:31] go ahead and do the vote first and then
do we'll read it and and have them come
[3:35] up at that time. Okay. Let's uh I have
let's do uh 43 and 44. Can I have a
[3:43] motion and a second for that?
>> So move.
[3:46] » Second.
>> Been moved by Alderman Allen. Second by
[3:48] Alman Murphy that 43 and 44 be passed as
presented. Are there any questions?
[3:54] Hearing none. Roll call.
>> Alderman Allen.
[3:58] » I.
>> Alderman Ray.
[3:59] » I.
>> Alderman Murphy.
[4:00] » I.
>> Alderman Brooks.
[4:02] » I.
>> Alderman Evans.
[4:03] » I. Motion carried. And at this time, I
ask that uh Alderman Brooks, would you
[4:08] like to be out and and bring the kids
forward to uh have them read the two
[4:13] resolutions and uh uh have them uh be
recognized?
[4:21] Lori, we'll have you read the
resolution.
[4:24] » Oh, you want to read? Yeah, you can read
it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, even better. And
[4:28] then you can bring them up also.
>> Read it first.
[4:32] » Bring them up.
>> Okay. North Chicago lady Warhawks.
[4:35] First,
>> all the Lady Warhawks, come on up.
[4:57] All right. Thank you. Thank you.
All right. Yeah, you too.
[5:05] Okay, this is a resolution honoring the
North Chicago Warhawks girls track and
[5:10] field team for their outstanding
performance at the IHSA 2A state
[5:15] championship. Whereas the North Chicago
Warhawks girls track and field team
[5:20] proudly represented the city of North
Chicago at the IHSA 2A state
[5:24] championship held at O'Brien Field on
the campus of Eastern Illinois
[5:28] University in Charleston, Illinois. And
whereas the student athletes of the
[5:32] North Chicago Warhawks demonstrated
exceptional dedication, discipline,
[5:37] sportsmanship, and perseverance
throughout the 2026 track and field
[5:42] season. And whereas junior rea Cooper
Smith earned second place in the 200
[5:48] meter dash with a season best time of
24.63 seconds. Wave. Go ahead. Wave.
[5:55] And whereas sophomore Bana Small
[6:03] Whereas sophomore Bana Small earned
fifth place in the 200 meter dash with a
[6:07] personal best time of 24.87 seconds
achieving a new Illinois ranking of 28th
[6:14] in the state. And whereas junior Ray
Cooper Smith also earned second place in
[6:19] the 100 meter dash with an outstanding
time of 12.21 seconds.
[6:26] And whereas the North Chicago Warhawks
4x1 meter 4x100 meter relay team
[6:32] consisting of Rihanna Small, Rihanna
Carpenter, Blessing Dodson, and Ree
[6:38] Cooper Smith earned fourth place in the
state championship with a season best
[6:42] time of 48.2 seconds.
And whereas the North Chicago Warhawks
[6:49] 4x200 meter relay team consisted of the
same Rihanna Small, Rihanna Carpenter,
[6:56] Blessing Dawson, and Ree Cooper Smith
earned fifth place in the state with a
[7:00] state championship with a season best
time of 1 minute 42.24 seconds. And
[7:06] whereas the team's accomplishments not
only not only athlet not only reflect
[7:11] not only the athletic excellence but the
academic achievement as a relay team
[7:16] collectively maintains nearly a 3.5
grade point average.
[7:24] And whereas senior Jasmine Jones, junior
rea Cooper Smith, sophomores Briana
[7:30] Small and Rihanna Carpenter, and
freshman Blessing Dodson have earned
[7:35] have served as exemplary ambassadors for
North Chicago through their hard work,
[7:40] determination, and commitment to
excellence. Now therefore, be it
[7:44] resolved that the mayor and the city
council of the city of North Chicago
[7:49] hereby recognize and congratulate the
North Chicago Hawks girls track and
[7:54] field team for their remarkable
achievements at the IHSA
[7:58] 2A Championship and commend them for
bringing pride and distinction to the
[8:03] city of North Chicago.
[8:11] Also, we have their coaches, Demetrius
Young
[8:16] and Mary Dillow.
Anybody want to say anything?
[8:25] » Go ahead. Go ahead.
>> Um, I just want to thank everybody. Um,
[8:29] this year was a hard year. We fought, we
fought, we fought, and we still stuck it
[8:33] out. Um, we finished fifth in the state.
Um, I know we could have did a little
[8:36] bit better, but we did it. Um, even
through all the trials and tribulations
[8:40] that we all had to go through with our
personal lives and with school and
[8:44] academics coming along, I just want to
thank all you ladies for doing what you
[8:48] supposed to do as student athletes and
thank everybody for being here.
[8:54] » All right. So, um, if y'all want to stay
up so your family can take some pictures
[8:58] of you got of you ladies, YouTube
coaches, come on up. Picture pitch time.
[9:03] Ottawa.
[10:08] Great job. Great job.
>> Great job.
[10:13] Great job.
[10:23] We will have copies of the resolution
for for you all. I will contact uh
[10:28] Dillow. I will contact you and probably
put out on band that I have the copy so
[10:33] you guys can take home as well and we'll
somehow work it out. All right. Um, if I
[10:37] could have the Neo Math and Science
track and field team step up.
[10:56] All right.
resolution honoring the outstanding
[11:00] achievements of the Neil Math and
Science Academy Eagles 7th grade state
[11:05] track athletes. Whereas the city of
North Chicago takes great pride in
[11:09] recognizing the accomplishments of its
young scholars and athletes who
[11:13] represent the community with excellence,
discipline, and determination. And
[11:17] whereas the Illinois Elementary School
Association State Track and Field
[11:22] Championship was held at East Side
Center in East Poria, where student
[11:27] athletes from across the state of
Illinois competed at the highest level.
[11:31] And whereas Miss Raven Finch, a seventh
grade student representing the Neil Math
[11:36] and Science Academy Eagles, earned the
title of class 4A
[11:43] state champion in the long jump.
with a personal best of 16 feet 8 in.
[11:54] And whereas Raven Finch has demonstrated
exceptional dedication both on and off
[11:59] the field, excelling not only in track
and field, but also in basketball and
[12:03] academics while maintaining an admirable
3.1 grade point average.
[12:12] And whereas the boys seventh grade 4x2
meter relay team earned the distinction
[12:18] of state runnerup placing second in the
state with an impressive time of 1
[12:23] minute 40.67 67 seconds.
And whereas a relay team consisting of
[12:29] Devonte Smith, raise your hand, Devonte
Smith
[12:34] or Sharia Nimhard, who is not here of
and they're both from Neil Math and
[12:38] Science and along with Gail Young and
Aiden Hill Duncan
[12:44] and Kaden Murin of Learn Six Charter
School in Great Lakes. And whereas these
[12:50] young men have demonstrated teamwork,
perseverance, sportsmanship, and
[12:55] academic excellence, collectively
maintaining an academic grade point
[12:59] average of above 3.0 while competing at
elite level.
[13:05] You know, whereas the achievements of
these student athletes bring great honor
[13:09] to their schools, families, coaches, and
the entire North Chicago community,
[13:14] serving as an inspiration to future
generations of young athletes and
[13:18] scholars. Now, therefore, be it resolved
that hereby recognizes and congratulates
[13:24] Raven Finch and the boys seventh grade
4x200 meter relay team for the
[13:28] remarkable accomplishments at the state
track and field championship. And
[13:35] be it further resolved that the city of
North Chicago expresses it it its
[13:39] sincere appreciation to the athletes,
coaches, families, teachers, and
[13:44] supporters whose encouragement and
commitment contributed to this
[13:49] outstanding season and these historic
accomplishments.
[13:55] Would one of the coaches like to say
anything?
[14:00] » Uh definitely a great way to end the
year. We start, we finish is our model,
[14:05] which means you step on that track, we
you're expected to give 100% no matter
[14:10] if you come in first place or last
place. And they had the opportunity to
[14:14] come in first and second in the state of
Illinois. So much congratulations to
[14:18] y'all.
[14:23] They're seventh graders. They got one
more year of middle school and then they
[14:27] are Warhawks to go on to do the same
thing at the high school. So, great job
[14:33] y'all. Great job. And again, copies will
be available out here with you so we can
[14:38] get those to everybody. All right,
photos.
[15:49] Graduation.
[15:55] Congratulations.
[16:43] like to continue move forward. But, you
know, before before I move forward, uh I
[16:50] just want to say to the uh the citizens
of North Chicago, my city council, my
[16:56] department heads, and any guests that
may be a part of uh this community.
[17:03] I really like to apologize for what I uh
my actions uh from at the last city
[17:09] council meeting on Monday, May 18th.
You know, I truly believe as mayor uh I
[17:17] must, you know, uh ensure that I have
decorum uh when I sit in in this
[17:24] position
and uh I must say I did not do that at
[17:29] the last meeting. I apologize. I I
really do feel I uh I fell short of what
[17:37] this seat holds as mayor of the city of
North Chicago.
[17:42] uh I I felt that uh my actions uh was
not appropriate and uh to the citizens
[17:50] and this council I would do better. So
uh saying that I do want to say also
[17:59] that goes both ways
uh to our citizens and to this council.
[18:04] We must all have good if we want to move
this city forward. People are watching
[18:10] us. they're watching us uh whether it's
on Zoom or or here at council meetings,
[18:18] you know, uh
and if they see us
[18:24] doing the things that we are and the way
we act, you know, we're trying to
[18:29] attract economic development, businesses
into our community and and it just
[18:35] doesn't work when there's disruption.
So again, uh, council, from my
[18:42] standpoint and from me, I apologize. I
will do better. Uh, and and I just
[18:48] wanted to make that statement as we
continue to move forward as as a as a
[18:55] group. So,
>> Mr. Mayor,
[19:00] » um, did I hear you say that we're going
to follow Robert?
[19:04] » We always follow Robert.
[19:11] Omnibus vote agenda.
>> I am Evans.
[19:16] » I would like to approve
5-15-9
[19:21] as presented.
>> Second move by Alman Evans, second by
[19:25] Alman Allen that the omnibus vote agenda
be passed as presented. Are there any
[19:30] questions on the omnibus vote?
>> Mr. Mayor, Alderman Coleman.
[20:11] No question.
Anyone else?
[20:14] » Hearing roll call.
>> Alderman Ray.
[20:18] » Hi.
>> Murphy.
[20:20] » Hi.
>> Hi.
[20:23] » Coleman.
>> Hi.
[20:24] » Evans.
>> Hi.
[20:26] » Hi. Motion carried. Public comment.
[20:35] Courtney and Kathy.
[20:52] » Hi, good evening. My name is Marica
Jones. Um, this is my team, Courtney and
[20:59] Kathy. Um, I grew up and lived in North
Chicago for the majority of my
[21:06] childhood. And so what keeps me coming
back is our wonderful afterchool program
[21:12] known as Drama Club. We Drama Club has
been around for a a long time now. Um,
[21:18] but I've had the opportunity to be a
part of drama club for the past three
[21:22] years and I um see that being a
long-term commitment of mine. But um
[21:29] what we've been able to do for this
community and the youth who live here um
[21:36] has been able to was to give them an
outlet. Um it's not just about theater
[21:42] and the arts with us, but more so
holding space for them and um giving
[21:47] them access to resources that typically
would not be in their grasp due to
[21:52] circumstances outside of their control.
And so we wanted to come here today um
[21:58] just to ask for your continued support
in what we do. Um as of right now, drama
[22:06] club is a seasonal commitment. It is
after school. However, our goal is for
[22:12] it to become something more um year
round and we understand that once kids
[22:18] are out of school um they have a lot
more time on their hands and so it would
[22:23] be nice for them to put that time into
something more productive um and so they
[22:29] can continue developing skills that will
set them up for success and keep them in
[22:34] alignment with their goals and
aspirations. And so um we just wanted to
[22:39] ask once again for uh you to keep us in
mind during those periods of
[22:44] implementation when you are going
through you know how to continue
[22:50] forwarding this community. Um it would
be helpful to us if we had more access
[22:55] to youth centers or community centers
for us to utilize those spaces during
[23:01] the summer for our students. um as well
as uh potentially become you know a part
[23:09] of the North Chicago community days. We
I know that that's something that is an
[23:14] annual staple of North Chicago. The
purpose of it is really to showcase the
[23:19] best parts of this city and I think one
of those included in that is our youth.
[23:25] And so if we could also have the
opportunity to um have our youth be a
[23:30] part of that for them to showcase their
talents um that would be a really great
[23:35] opportunity for us to explore in the
future as well.
[23:40] But thankful.
>> And the other thing is we can expand
[23:44] then to North Chicago in general because
right now we are
[23:48] » limited
>> limited in who we can teach. But if we
[23:51] could expand during the summer and teach
more the whole community, that would be
[23:57] great. And we could only do that during
the summer. We work under the school
[24:00] during the uh regular year, academic
year. But during the summer if we could
[24:05] do something like that, if you would
afford us the space and then if we could
[24:10] reform whoever we teach, I mean it could
be other students also. We don't want to
[24:14] be limited. Uh right now with our
program, we do have we do do high school
[24:19] scholarships and we do have 35 enrolled
in prep schools and we do have uh almost
[24:25] every one of our kids that has gone
through with us is a college is in
[24:28] college or graduated from college. So we
have a very good uh record, academic
[24:35] record. So we're very excited about
that. But we would kind of like to, you
[24:38] know, be part of the community also
because we are trying to help the whole
[24:41] community.
>> Yes. Uh
[24:45] » I don't have anything to say. I hear
from
[24:48] » I think the biggest thing is if we can
get a sheet especially would like a
[24:52] space.
>> Um
[24:53] » yeah, I was just going to clarify we
currently work out of the learn 10 and
[24:58] learn six schools. Um and so uh once
again our goal is to expand our team so
[25:05] that we are able to reach a much broader
audience. Um but for now it's just four
[25:10] of us that kind of take this on and so
it would be it would mean a lot if we
[25:15] had a little bit more um access and just
support from the community.
[25:22] probably we could even run a program for
the community separate from our program
[25:26] where we would run like uh during the
summer as I said perhaps eventually
[25:32] during the school year different days or
whatever through the community. So we'd
[25:36] like to try to work with the community
eventually because like I said we're
[25:40] trying to help as many students as
possible. That's our goal. We do third
[25:43] to eighth grade. Let let me say as as
mayor
[25:47] » I support you.
>> Yeah.
[25:49] » Uh I I don't know how many city council
I know.
[25:54] » You guys did an excellent job at theater
on Thursday. I think it was Thursday.
[25:59] » Yes. Thank you.
>> Beautiful. I mean from from singing to
[26:05] dancing to tap dancing.
>> I mean these kids perform to the highest
[26:11] level.
>> And uh you know I I I hear that what
[26:15] you're saying that you need space and
you want to get more involved in the
[26:19] community. Uh I think from the city,
we're more than happy to to support
[26:25] that. Uh I I know that you know you
probably need to get into the school
[26:31] district
187 though we are not directly you know
[26:36] uh a board for that. They have their own
separate body. I do know that there's a
[26:41] board member here,
Mr. Coleman, Gerald Coleman. Uh, and if
[26:47] he had an opportunity to see, I think if
any of the board members had an
[26:52] opportunity to see what you guys
actually can do for our children and how
[26:58] you uh achieve that, I think that you
know they would be of supported also. I
[27:04] do know also we have a park district.
So, I mean, you're you're you're
[27:12] » here at the right place at the right
time,
[27:14] » right?
>> And uh you know, this is something I
[27:17] agree.
>> You know, we have things that we can do
[27:21] to support our children to not just say
keep them off the street, but to achieve
[27:26] to to expand their minds not just into
the books, but into the arts also. Uh
[27:32] that is something that is uh you know
that is needed for them. So, yes,
[27:37] whatever type of
Uh, I think that would be great to to
[27:41] see if we can do something into our
community days to, you know, get you in
[27:46] to, you know, maybe uh do some
performances that parents may want to be
[27:52] able to sign their children up to to be
a part of. So, uh, be more than happy to
[27:57] work with you on that and, uh, you know,
whatever we can do from our part.
[28:02] » Thank you so much.
>> Thank you.
[28:04] Amen.
>> And uh I don't know if you guys are
[28:07] going to be there Wednesday for
graduation, but hope to see you there.
[28:10] » Yeah.
>> Thank you.
[28:15] » Oh,
like I say, I'll get the Christmas
[28:19] performance. Great job. Those kids
performed so well. And I too, but I say
[28:25] that's why I gave you my number. So,
come here on city council and get these
[28:28] get the city involved and get the mayor
secretary phone number and and you come
[28:34] up with some things get this out.
>> Yeah, I think at this point the park
[28:38] district would be great to work with
because the park district would be
[28:41] separate from the school district and I
don't think we want to yeah they would
[28:45] have the space and it would be like
almost a separate program we'd run
[28:48] through the city which would be because
we run this one through there running a
[28:52] different one through the city I think
is what kind of we're looking at right
[28:55] now. So, I don't know who we talked to
about getting space at a park district,
[28:58] but that
>> he's getting
[29:01] that that is need to talk to. So, you
know, Yeah. Thank you so much.
[29:05] » Thank you for
>> and then then you can also talk with the
[29:09] mayor about getting you guys on
community day. Yeah,
[29:11] » that would be a good performance.
>> Absolutely.
[29:14] » And also we bring out the uh
>> talk with the chief of staff over
[29:19] Jackson.
>> Great.
[29:20] » Okay.
>> Well, thank you all again. We really
[29:22] appreciate
>> resources where you can
[29:24] » Yes, we we appreciate any help we can
get.
[29:28] » Thank you.
>> All right,
[29:33] Commissioner Caria.
[29:45] » Good evening, city. Good evening, Mayor
Rockingham and city council. How are you
[29:49] guys tonight? It's definitely a
beautiful day today, right? First off, I
[29:55] am Commissioner Carmeia Hawthorne from
False Park District and I definitely
[29:58] gave that young lady our information
because we definitely want to have that
[30:02] at our center. Um, also I just want to
make a mention of and good good evening
[30:07] our beautiful constituents too. I don't
want to forget you guys. I definitely
[30:10] want to make mention that our board
meetings are it's every third Wednesday
[30:15] at 6 o'clock. Please plan to join. If
you've never sat in on one of the
[30:19] meetings, I encourage you to come out to
see what's going on at your park
[30:22] district. Now, on to the beautiful
announcement. So, we have Junth coming
[30:28] up on June 13th at the Falls Park
District from 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. I
[30:35] encourage everyone to come out if you
have any questions. It's going to be a
[30:38] day of fun activities. It's going to be
a really good time that's going to be
[30:42] had. Um, if you have any questions,
please feel free to call the district.
[30:46] And also we have a ribbon cutting coming
up for our Hamlet Park which will be
[30:52] June
June 10th
[30:56] at 2:00 p.m. If you are able to come out
and attend this is going to be I'm very
[31:00] excited about this park and Hamlet is
definitely ready to go for this ribbon
[31:04] cuy. So, just a couple announcements um
outside. Our beach is actually open. For
[31:10] those of you that may not know, False
Park Beach is definitely open. And just
[31:14] so you guys can know, there is no there
it is security based, but security
[31:19] doesn't get there until 11:00 a.m. For
all you coffee drinkers and all those
[31:23] people that love gazing at the beautiful
lake, you will have your time session
[31:27] during morning hours to go down to the
beach to have your time. So, that's all
[31:32] for me. Thank you so much. If you guys
have any questions, please feel free to
[31:36] reach out to me. Boss Park Commissioner
Commissioner Caresia Hawthorne and y'all
[31:41] have a good night.
>> Thank you very much. Anyone else?
[31:47] » Hearing none. Regular agenda
uh 7-1 approval of the ordinance
[31:53] redistricting the wards of the city of
North Chicago, Illinois pursuant to the
[31:59] Illinois municipal code.
>> Your second
[32:03] Approval of
redistribute
[32:08] city
[32:13] » second movement Evans second by Alderman
Murphy that 7-1 be passed as presented.
[32:19] Are there questions?
>> Yesman.
[32:24] » Um
we don't have our full council here
[32:28] today. So
I would ask to
[32:33] table it again
[32:37] until we have full council here since
this is such an important
[32:44] note
[32:52] question.
Um
[32:57] I presented the ordinance some
information this evening um the
[33:02] requirement for an alderman to live in
their ward. Um, if you look at the first
[33:09] page, number one, the requirement to
live in the ward um is Illinois
[33:14] Municipal Code 65 LCS
531-10-5-
[33:22] C. The person is not eligible for office
of all the person of the ward unless
[33:28] that person resides in that ward. that
person seeks to represent.
[33:34] Um the legal definition of residency in
the Illinois legal residency is defined
[33:40] by two strict elements established by
the Illinois Supreme Court. Markhamm
[33:45] versus Board of Election
uh Markham versus Board of Election of
[33:52] Commissioners. One of the things is your
physical presence in the home and the
[33:56] other is the intent to make the homes
one's permanent primary residence. Um,
[34:01] buying a home is a permanent financial
and legal commitment. If an older person
[34:07] buys a home in another ward, moves their
belongings there, and sleeps there, they
[34:12] are legally they are legally abandoned
their original ward. Um, that's the
[34:20] first part of the law. Um, before I go
any further, anybody can go to the back
[34:25] page of their packet there.
[34:31] that uh that is the voter registration
uh from the Lake County clerk. That is
[34:41] the official uh registration.
And if you look at the previous page,
[34:48] you'll see that um that is actually
registered in the six ward currently and
[34:57] they actually registered on 116
2025
[35:02] is actually when they register outside
of their world.
[35:08] All right. Uh when you go to number two,
it says moving out automatically
[35:14] triggers a vacancy.
Um the law Illinois Municipal Code 65
[35:21] LCS531-10-5-
[35:25] C-1.
A vacancy occurs in an office by reason
[35:30] of more than a temporary removal of
residents from the ward. more than
[35:36] temporary. Buying a property and
establishing a life in a different ward
[35:40] does not qualify as a temporary trip or
a short-term displacement that
[35:46] constitutes a personal move.
Automatic consequences.
[35:52] Under Illinois law, the moment an
official permanently moves their primary
[35:57] residence out of the elected district,
they structurally vacate the office.
[36:04] they are no longer legal uh to represent
of that ward. So number two basically
[36:11] states that when that alderman
registered um in a different ward that
[36:17] he actually represented
uh Illinois law creates that seat as
[36:23] being vacant. Okay. Automatic. Um number
three it comes down to us as alderman.
[36:32] um the city council's duty to act,
right? That means it's our
[36:37] responsibility as all to act. Um the law
Illinois municipal code 65 LCS
[36:44] 5-3-1-10-50.
[36:48] The corporate authority um has the
authority to determine whether a vacancy
[36:54] has occurred. Corporate authority for
Chicago that means mayor and the city
[36:59] council. The council's duty is on the
second page. State law gives the city
[37:06] council the explicit power and
responsibility.
[37:11] We have the power and the responsibility
to investigate residency challenges if
[37:17] an older person is found to have moved.
The council must officially declare the
[37:23] seat vacant so a proper representative
can be appointed or elected.
[37:31] Those are the the three key elements um
required to live in your ward moving out
[37:38] under state Illinois state statute
automatically that seat is vacant and as
[37:44] city council we have a duty to act
[37:52] and you know saying less I think at this
point um
[37:58] how is How is that relevant to this
vote? Um, how's that relevant to this
[38:03] vote? It would be improper for an
alderman that's not representing his
[38:08] ward to actually vote to move his home
to a different ward. Um, currently by
[38:17] state statute, he's no longer an
alderman. And secondly, in order to
[38:24] vote, you have to be an alderman. and it
would most definitely be improper for
[38:31] you to vote on a district that will keep
you as an alderman even though you moved
[38:38] out. So, I've given this notice to our
attorney
[38:46] um and it's our duty to investigate it,
which would take some time, which would
[38:52] take some table. I put a lot on the
hardest plate today. Um, we've given you
[38:58] the facts and the laws. There's more
information in the packet about
[39:03] redistricting.
Um, but at this point,
[39:10] um, I still request that we table the
matter because we have a voting issue
[39:18] now. Um, if that alderman's vote can
actually make him award um and he's
[39:28] currently not in a so with his seat
being vacant
[39:33] for him to vote would invalidate the
vote. Now I know I just gave you guys
[39:40] this packet and I know you guys need
time to read it. I know you guys need
[39:45] time to uh research the laws, the
attorney time to research the laws and I
[39:53] really would hope that our whole council
to make this decision at the time that
[39:57] we made that decision. But as of right
now, um, the order, you have the facts,
[40:04] you have the responsibility, and you
have the duty to your residents, to the
[40:11] city, and you're obligated by law um to
do what's proper.
[40:20] » So, we have a we have a representative
also available to speak to this.
[40:28] » Hi, Mayor. Can you hear me?
>> Yes, D. Go right ahead.
[40:32] » Hi,
please uh state your name and who you're
[40:37] with and
first.
[40:39] » Yes, mayor. Thank you. I'm Dan Bolan
from Anel Glink. I'm one of the
[40:43] attorneys that's been working with the
city's redistricting consultant on the
[40:48] redistricting ordinance that's in front
of you tonight. I understand that one of
[40:52] the alder persons is raising a question
about the qualifications
[40:57] of office for one of the current older
persons uh another older person. And
[41:06] yes, the municipal code uh does give
that power uh for the uh corporate
[41:14] authorities to determine whether a
vacancy has occurred. that usually
[41:18] happens after notice and an opportunity
to be heard. I don't I understand that
[41:25] that has not happened uh that that uh
older person has not been deprived of
[41:31] their current uh office that term
expiring
[41:36] uh in 2029. The ordinance in front of
you has nothing to do tonight. The
[41:41] redistricting ordinance has nothing to
do with any of the qualifications of
[41:48] current older persons. They will uh are
respond the redistricting is responding
[41:54] to population shifts based on federal
housing policy and university housing
[41:59] policy uh uh that have changed where the
voting age population lives in the city.
[42:07] So the this ordinance will help you have
fairer elections in 2027 for the even
[42:15] number of wards and in 2029 for uh odd
number boards. And so to honor that
[42:22] principle, one person, one vote, uh that
is why we undertook this project and
[42:28] worked with the redistricting consultant
to uh uh propose maps that address the
[42:34] population shifts for future elections.
Questions about anyone's current
[42:40] qualifications of office are uh frankly
not related to the ordinance that's in
[42:46] front of you tonight.
That's all I have. Mayor, thank you.
[42:51] » Mr. Mayor,
>> can I address the attorney?
[42:57] » All right. Um, I kind of knew you were
going to say that. So, everybody turn to
[43:01] the next page. The population balance
window is closed. This is what he's
[43:06] referring to. Um, under Illinois law 65
CS53-1-20-25,
[43:16] a city council is explicitly required to
redistrict the city based on the
[43:22] official census.
The official census happened in 2020.
[43:28] Cities across Illinois finalized and
passed their legally binding W maps back
[43:33] in 2122
in which we did and to balance the
[43:38] population for the entire decade.
If the council needed to redraw the
[43:44] lines for population balance, that work
was legally required to be finished
[43:50] years ago following a 2020 census,
claiming we suddenly have a massive
[43:55] population crisis in 2026,
conveniently matching the exact moment
[44:02] an alderman brought a house outside of
his ward, fails the common sense test.
[44:09] The timing proves this is an emergency
map for one politician, not a routine
[44:15] adjustment for the public. A map. And
second, if you see the second point,
[44:21] okay, a map cannot cure a vacancy that
already happened.
[44:27] Even if the council votes on a new map
tomorrow, it cannot retroactively undo
[44:33] the law under Illinois statute 65
CS53-1-10-50.
[44:41] The office became vacant the instant the
alderman relocated his primary
[44:46] residence.
A map passed today cannot fix a law that
[44:52] was broken yesterday.
The council cannot use a future map to
[44:57] reinstate someone who has already
legally disqualified themselves from
[45:02] office. The timing is fundamentally
flawed because the vacancy has already
[45:08] occurred by operation of state law. You
cannot redraw the boundaries of a ward
[45:14] to bring back an alderman who already
vacated his seat by moving out. Right
[45:21] now, as we stand here, the seat is
legally vacant. Under 65 LCS53-1-10-50,
[45:32] you cannot legislate away an existing
violation.
[45:39] it. Point number three, as I said last
time, it invites an immediate audit and
[45:47] lawsuit. If council insists that they
are doing a sudden mid decade
[45:53] rebalancing act, they have to prove it
with certified population data under the
[45:58] 14th amendment. Every ward must have an
equal number of residents. Changing a
[46:03] line just to swallow one house
completely disrupts the map.
[46:14] If the change in the map was for
balance, we have to explain why only why
[46:22] only the border near the autumn's new
house is changing. If the council votes
[46:29] to pass a brand new mid decade map
claiming it's for balance, you open the
[46:35] city up to massive legal liability. A
judge will look at the timing and ask,
[46:41] "Why did the city wait until 2026 to
balance the population? And why does the
[46:47] new lines perfectly carve out the new
the the new alderman's new property?
[46:54] Passing a map under this false pretense
is an arbitrary misuse of government
[47:00] power, and it invites an immediate
lawsuit that North Chicago taxpayers
[47:05] will have to pay for.
[47:11] Mayor, may I respond?
>> And yes, go right ahead.
[47:15] » Um, uh, I I agree with Alderman Coleman.
The vacancy question is separate. Uh the
[47:22] redistricting ordinance in front of you
tonight has to do with uh different
[47:28] terms of f future terms for
offices in held in to be elected in the
[47:35] future in 2027 and in 2029. Um the
qualifications questions that the older
[47:43] person is raising are are separate and
could be taken up at another time. Um
[47:50] the if the c if the corporate
authorities so wish the uh the question
[47:56] about the population data the if you
read on in the statute it is uh for
[48:03] after a dennial census or for any other
reason the the corporate authorities can
[48:09] redistrict the wards and in this case
the reason is we know based on the
[48:14] American community survey and and
federal housing policy changes and
[48:18] university housing policy changes since
uh the last redistricting, which I was
[48:25] uh was a pleasure I had the pleasure of
working with the city on uh last time as
[48:29] well. Um we know that we that the
population has shifted drastically, the
[48:36] voting age population has shifted uh
because of the the military housing
[48:41] policy and the university housing
policy. redistricting the wards uh to
[48:48] balance out the population will actually
insulate the city from one person one
[48:53] vote lawsuits and so that's why we
undertook this project and its
[49:00] ordinances in front of you to consider
tonight. Thank you mayor.
[49:05] » And a lot of that has stemmed from the
fact that Paul village
[49:10] » Mr. Mayor
>> point of order.
[49:14] » No, but I have a point of order.
>> I have
[49:19] » I have the floor.
>> I I have a point of order.
[49:24] » You have your point of order after I
address.
[49:27] » I'm going to be courteous and give you
that.
[49:29] » Thank you.
[49:35] We
work with the military in regards to
[49:42] Pauly Village.
There had been residents there
[49:48] during our first census count and our
redistricting.
[49:54] Since that time we have lost Pauly
Village,
[49:58] 39 houses out of Forestto
and Rosland Franklin or uh the Woodlands
[50:05] is no longer part of the jurisdiction is
now under Rosland Franklin. again losing
[50:13] population and losing votes in a
particular ward.
[50:19] When that ward has lost
their population,
[50:26] that means that at they're no longer
having an opportunity to uh have the
[50:32] balance that needs to be in all seven
boards.
[50:36] That is the reason we move forward with
redistricting
[50:40] all seven. so that it would be a balance
for all council members sitting at this
[50:48] council chambers. So as Alderman Coleman
states, I agree, but but we move forward
[50:57] and anybody at this time could go over
to Forestall and you will not get in
[51:03] because it is barricaded and getting
ready for demolition. Oh, excuse me. Hy,
[51:09] I'm sorry. pausing and it is getting
ready for demolition.
[51:14] So
you count every house that will been in
[51:19] that ward and it's gone and there's no
more population for that war. So that is
[51:25] the reason we move forward. Your issue
uh Alderman Coleman uh is a different
[51:32] issue than what this vote is on today.
this ward this is balancing out all all
[51:40] of our wards so that we would have an
even population throughout.
[51:44] » Mr. Mayor,
[51:49] » um village has been shut down for a very
long time and the houses are falling
[51:55] apart. Um I thought we address Pauly and
we remedy we remedy that imbalance in
[52:04] 2021.
when Hoy was already gone and the census
[52:09] came in. Um Hoy's been a ghost town for
>> people.
[52:16] I mean I
>> So do we have those numbers? Um do we
[52:21] have has any of the alderman seen those
numbers from the census?
[52:27] Uh the percentages have you seen
>> sat sat down and did the maps alderman
[52:32] would talked to each of the alderman.
>> You didn't never talk to we already
[52:36] talked about it.
>> The data was the data was presented to
[52:38] the
>> Has anybody else seen the data? You've
[52:42] seen the data. I haven't. when I met May
I speak
[52:48] » when I met with
um
[52:53] I'm sorry
>> Kim Brace is Kim Brace is the consultant
[52:57] from EDS out of Washington
>> I can't I I will not speak for my fellow
[53:04] » I met with him I saw the data
>> we had the discussion
[53:09] » and I understand why I'm speaking for
myself I understand why my ward is being
[53:16] my ward boundaries are being redrawn.
>> So to answer your question, yes, I did
[53:21] see the data
>> and
[53:23] » and if anybody else wants to talk about
their meeting with Kim, then they can
[53:27] talk about that.
>> Well, I wasn't.
[53:29] » Well, wait a minute, Alderman, did did
everyone have that opportunity except I
[53:33] know Alderman Coleman said he did not.
>> I'm sorry, Ward. But see, the only
[53:37] problem I have I've been looking at this
right here now
[53:41] the question was I had
At the beginning, it was saying that
[53:47] uh the sevenman
was had to uh had to leave out of that
[53:54] district over there. I'm we going a
different direction or not. He he got he
[53:58] got I know some other people still live
over that in that we're now that's not
[54:04] uh just just regular citizens. So I
don't think Dr. I don't
[54:08] » not not in for not in forest not in
>> for people living forced out right now
[54:14] » civilian
>> civilian my daughter I know
[54:17] » yes
>> my daughter and two I'm just saying I'm
[54:20] just saying how many
>> not against that I'm just saying
[54:22] » civilian housing
>> that my understanding was all
[54:29] » no my daughter been there for five years
uh the woman that runs the place she
[54:33] been living there about a year now then
another couple
[54:38] had to move I'm just telling you what I
seen so I look at this and see we got to
[54:42] follow the law. I can't support
somebody. I got to follow the law. I'm
[54:46] not going to sit here and tell you that
I'm trying to make it into hell. I'm
[54:50] going to do what's right. Once I get
some information and see what's right,
[54:54] what's got to do what's right? Because I
was going to go run with it two weeks
[54:58] ago. I really bring this paper out. Look
at this. Then it tells me about they
[55:02] were the whole time. Is that right?
>> So you want me to vote on something
[55:07] that's not right? I can't do that.
>> Can I interject?
[55:09] » I'm just speaking all of that. Can I
interject something? It was some it's a
[55:12] valid point that Alderman Coleman
brought up.
[55:14] » Yeah.
>> Right ahead.
[55:16] » If as Alder Alderman Coleman points out
that the state statute says that that
[55:21] office is already being vacated by the
by the individual leading the ward, if I
[55:26] if I'm misspeaking, let me know.
>> Then what's the difference on the map?
[55:31] If the office is vacated, he's not
there. What's the difference on the map
[55:35] then?
>> Because he doesn't vote. If if his seat
[55:39] is vacated, he doesn't vote tonight.
>> But remember, when we go through a
[55:43] vacation, there has to be a finding by
city council or a petition, a poor
[55:47] Toronto petition brought by the state's
attorney's office. And he has um due
[55:51] process rights to notice in a hearing.
>> And this this actually, as my colleague
[55:57] pointed out, that has to do with is the
term that expires in 29. What we're
[56:02] looking at tonight is redistricting
ordinance to go into effect for 20
[56:07] looking forward, not looking backwards
to where he lived when he was elected.
[56:11] He did live in in his district when he
was elected.
[56:15] » Does he live in his district today?
>> I don't know if he does or he does not.
[56:19] I don't believe that he does, but
>> did I just send you Did I just give you
[56:24] uh his address and everything and you
just read over the packet? What I what
[56:28] I'm saying to you all um Commissioner or
Alderman Coleman is that he has right to
[56:32] a hearing on that which is separate and
distinct from
[56:35] » Do you think that as a city council we
should hold this vote off to see if he
[56:41] has the right to vote and see if drawing
these lines are appropriate? Do you
[56:48] think that's would be appropriate? What
is the rush?
[56:58] All I'm going to say is based on
everything I'm hearing is we have two
[57:01] we're looking at two separate things and
one
[57:07] which is the change in the population
which has happened and even if there are
[57:11] still civilians living at forall village
if 39 housing units have been taken out
[57:17] of the mix and anyone remaining at Holly
Village is gone now because now it's
[57:22] entirely empty and the Woodlands is now
student housing for Rosal and Franklin
[57:28] and under their jurisdiction.
Then irrespective of this other issue,
[57:35] we now have an imbalance in the
population which is what the data was
[57:39] addressing that I saw when I sat and
talked with Kim Race. And that's what
[57:45] we're trying to rectify. They are not
the same thing.
[57:51] » Mr. Mayor,
>> two different issues,
[57:53] » Mr. Mayor um what what was the
percentage population larger
[57:59] » the data in front of me
>> do you remember the data
[58:03] » satisfied my discussion
>> to see the data and to see those facts
[58:08] and figures
>> data
[58:10] don't have that available
wait no no no no
[58:17] » let's let's become
>> right
[58:21] » so as as We went to every alt except for
alderman Coleman. There was a a
[58:30] population and I I refer I don't know if
dad do you have any of that information
[58:35] that that is being
>> discussed at this time.
[58:39] » He had to go to another meeting.
>> Okay.
[58:43] » I think the best I think the best way to
look at is you look at the packages that
[58:46] you all received. You see that the
balance for the um uh ideal population
[58:54] for each one of the ws is 2412
>> law requires a deviation of plus or
[59:01] minus five on that 2412.
The fourth ward for example had well
[59:06] over 5% of of the population. They had
the largest population uh in in their
[59:12] ranks. So there had to be a tweak in
order to turn around and balance off
[59:18] from the fourth ward from the fifth ward
for every ward. Um we did some balancing
[59:23] and shifting in alderman Evans. So it
was to bring it to the deviation based
[59:28] on the new population numbers based on
the loss of population that we had in
[59:32] Hollyy Village for
um if the question I guess the question
[59:38] that may may assist here or not if I can
continue
[59:41] » what's the data
>> is I'm sorry
[59:43] » what's the data in the war how many
people We lose in that ward. 39 houses
[59:49] is not a lot. That's like a public.
>> No, but the whole 81 acres in Holly
[59:53] villages,
>> but we don't do land. We do people. So
[59:57] 39 people.
>> We do units of houses though.
[59:59] » Correct.
>> Not acres.
[1:00:01] » Correct. Correct.
>> But you said 39 houses.
[1:00:04] » No, 39 was in Forest.
>> That's just Forest.
[1:00:08] » That's just Forest.
>> Correct.
[1:00:10] » By village is every single house in
Baldi Village.
[1:00:13] » Well, we've determined that not to be.
We're not sure of that. What's that
[1:00:17] » of? You say every house in Holly was
empty. How many people was that?
[1:00:22] » That's what I'd have to get you the
numbers. I didn't bring them with me, so
[1:00:24] I can't tell you the numbers of
>> because it was a high percentage that
[1:00:27] was already missing, right?
>> Uh, no. I wouldn't say there was a high
[1:00:30] percentage. We
>> So, why would the senator call it a
[1:00:32] ghost town?
>> Because there were parts of it that
[1:00:35] looked like a ghost town.
>> Okay. So, a percentage of it was already
[1:00:39] missing.
>> Yes.
[1:00:40] » Okay. So, what other percentage left
since 20 And since we did that the ward
[1:00:47] redistricting in 2021, how many people
moved out since 2022 to 2026?
[1:00:54] » The data sets I do not have with me. I'm
happy to distribute them. Again, they
[1:00:57] were presented to us when we saw the
shifts and when we were looking at the
[1:01:00] maps. We also have the woodlands which
the woodlands were occupied and and we
[1:01:05] don't have that.
>> The data
[1:01:08] » now
I think that data was presented several
[1:01:12] months ago. I mean, and you were
privileged to it that you were more than
[1:01:19] welcome to have
looked at it and and and uh was able to,
[1:01:26] you know, make a judgment on it.
>> I I think I have a question, Mary. I
[1:01:31] think it goes right to the alderman
Pullman's point. If the point So, if the
[1:01:37] point here is only
that
[1:01:42] one alderman vote on this because they
don't live in the ward because they're
[1:01:48] out of office or however however it was.
>> One seat is vacant.
[1:01:54] » One thing one seat is
>> other than that the map should pass
[1:01:59] because if that one person didn't vote,
the map should pass because we have a
[1:02:03] balanced.
>> Okay. So,
[1:02:05] » one person, one vote, right?
>> Correct. So, let's not have that person
[1:02:10] vote and see if it passes.
Um I don't
[1:02:14] » that he has the right to vote. He hasn't
been removed from office. He noted his
[1:02:18] seat vacant. He has right to he's a due
process right in his seat. He was
[1:02:24] elected while living in there.
>> He he has a right to notice in a hearing
[1:02:32] separate.
>> Just curious. Were you aware that he
[1:02:34] moved out of his award when you were
doing the redistricting?
[1:02:38] » I did not draft the redistricting
ordinance.
[1:02:40] here tonight.
>> Is Dan available to answer the question?
[1:02:44] » I believe he just walked into a meeting
with the client. He had to jump off at
[1:02:49] » so I mean that's an important question
is really it's two separate issues
[1:02:54] regardless of of where that alderman
lives is the population shift is what's
[1:02:59] causing the need for redistricting. It's
the It's the policies that were
[1:03:04] implemented by um
>> we're saying it's a population sh
[1:03:12] it's clear that I was not invited to the
meeting.
[1:03:16] » Right. Well,
>> I don't I I never knew about Kim.
[1:03:19] » There were several
>> I wasn't invited to the other meeting.
[1:03:23] » You're going to sit here and tell me
that you did not have there was not
[1:03:28] attempts to get in touch with him.
>> There wasn't. That's what I'm trying to
[1:03:30] tell you. There was no attempts to get
uh in touch with me with the committee
[1:03:34] uh the community map either.
>> So when when you were when we were
[1:03:39] discussing this in committee,
>> you aware of that, correct?
[1:03:44] » No, I was not aware that one of these
did not live in the district that just
[1:03:48] came up. What happened?
>> Redistricing. You order the
[1:03:51] redistricting and you did sit in
committees as we discussed that
[1:03:57] while we were redistricing while we were
redistricing
[1:04:01] in committee
>> in which we held several of them you
[1:04:07] were there
>> very possible.
[1:04:10] » No no it's not very either on Zoom or
here in person. Did we show the data in
[1:04:15] committee? Cuz everybody would have seen
the data if we showed it in committee.
[1:04:20] » Did Did we show the data in committee? I
think there was private meetings like
[1:04:24] she said she spoke with Kim and Kim
showed her the data.
[1:04:29] » Oh, well, I'm sorry. Mr. Kim showed her
showed her. I don't know who Mr. Kim is.
[1:04:34] Mr. Kim never called, so I don't I have
no idea who that is. And we're going
[1:04:39] based off of data.
>> Let me ask this. Has anybody else Let me
[1:04:42] ask. I haven't seen the data.
>> All did you speak to Mr. Kim regarding
[1:04:48] it?
>> Did you did you have an opportunity to
[1:04:51] speak with Mr. Kim regarding
redistricting your war?
[1:04:54] » Yes, I did.
>> I didn't.
[1:04:58] » Well, was it for
>> you had an opportunity to sit down and
[1:05:02] and discuss the redistricting?
>> I did.
[1:05:05] » You know I did.
>> Murphy Alderman Brooks.
[1:05:08] » So, Mr. Mayor, wait. One second. Mr. had
an opportunity to talk with the
[1:05:13] gentleman that was responsible,
qualified, and certified to be able to
[1:05:21] redistrict our wards.
>> Ottoman Coleman had that same
[1:05:26] opportunity. He decided not to.
>> No, no, don't lie on me.
[1:05:31] » Okay. I'm sorry.
>> I'm sorry. I apologize about my my
[1:05:36] mistake.
For some reason, for unknown reasons Mr.
[1:05:43] Alderman Coleman
was not contacted as he said
[1:05:50] I I don't know I don't know why Mr. Kim
out of all the other alderman that were
[1:05:57] contacted and was and was notified
why Alderman Coleman did not have that
[1:06:04] opportunity.
>> So Mr. mayor.
[1:06:07] » So, we all agree I did not have the
opportunity. So, now I'm asking my
[1:06:12] order, can I have an opportunity to to
discuss this with this new information
[1:06:16] that I've presented and the new
information that you guys have? Can I
[1:06:20] have an opportunity to talk?
>> You know, let me just say in regard in
[1:06:24] regard because we're ready to move
forward, Alderman, we're ready to move.
[1:06:28] We we we respected you from last meeting
saying that you wanted time
[1:06:33] » and and now it's time to move forward.
>> No, no. I asked for time and I said to
[1:06:38] present and as I promised I asked for
time everybody has packets today that I
[1:06:45] spent a lot of time working on. Okay.
And as I promised the alderman give me
[1:06:49] some time. Let me get some things
together so I can present it to the art
[1:06:54] so that we all know what we're voting
on. Right? And I withheld and and I did
[1:06:59] that. So now that you have the evidence
or you have the information, we need
[1:07:04] more time to look it over and you guys
can investigate it and I can talk to Mr.
[1:07:09] Kim and we can
as an audition
[1:07:19] to talk to Mr. Kim.
[1:07:24] » So can you give me an opportunity to
talk to Mr. Kim? I'm telling you, I
[1:07:29] didn't have that opportunity.
>> You decided not to.
[1:07:32] » Well, did I have the opportunity when we
did the city when when we did the city
[1:07:41] and they came in and they rebranded the
city. I didn't have an opportunity then.
[1:07:46] » If you if you were at these council
committee meetings
[1:07:49] » and then we did the master plan and I
wasn't invited to the master plan. This
[1:07:55] is like the fourth meeting I haven't
been invited to. So at at a certain
[1:08:01] point it's no longer a coinc
if if you attend
[1:08:08] council meetings
>> I do
[1:08:10] » and committee meetings
>> besides the ones you don't let me submit
[1:08:14] to
me you always have an opportunity
[1:08:19] whether you're uh brought into the
meeting and I think every council member
[1:08:24] here anytime you say you need to to be
zoomed in they've always voted get you
[1:08:29] in. Is that not Have there ever been a
time you not been able to zoom in?
[1:08:34] » Yes. When you and the attorney talked
and you didn't let the alderman know
[1:08:39] that I was in the lobby, so the alderman
didn't get an opportunity to vote to let
[1:08:44] me in.
>> You read that a few times.
[1:08:46] » Question on the
>> I'd like to call the question.
[1:08:49] » Question on the vote.
>> I'd like to call the question.
[1:08:54] » Can I motion? I have a pardon me. a
motion and a second on the floor already
[1:08:59] and I am calling the question which
means
[1:09:01] » I know I
>> which means that I am asking that we
[1:09:06] proceed with the vote. We have a motion
and a second properly made on the floor.
[1:09:13] I'm calling the question. You're the
expert on Robert's rules. You should
[1:09:17] know what that means.
>> Murphy deformed.
[1:09:20] » That's the second time.
I and I'm and I'm asking for the court.
[1:09:25] » Calm down.
>> I what I just as necessary
[1:09:28] » what I just asked. I did.
>> I think she she heard
[1:09:33] » Mr. May the question on the
>> Mr. Mayor. I have I have a point of
[1:09:38] order and I have a parliament question
which trumps the call the question. I
[1:09:45] have a point of order. I have a point of
order which trumps the question.
[1:09:53] See, I I thought you just apologized
everybody and you said you was going to
[1:09:56] follow wherever rules of order, right? I
do. I have a Do you have to address me
[1:10:01] with a point of order? And I have a
question before I vote
[1:10:05] » on you for a vote.
[1:10:10] » I have a point of order is what I have.
>> You can vote yes, no.
[1:10:19] » Move on.
[1:10:27] vote.
>> I'm not non voting. I still have the
[1:10:30] floor.
>> No, you No, you don't.
[1:10:31] » Yes, I do have I have
>> The vote is being taken.
[1:10:34] » No, you can't call the question. I have
a point of order.
[1:10:38] » The vote
>> and I have a question before I vote. So,
[1:10:41] I can ask
>> The vote has already started. There's no
[1:10:44] more.
>> No, you started the vote.
[1:10:48] » You started the vote, sir.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Point of
[1:10:53] order. Point of order. The attorney does
not have the right to run the meeting.
[1:10:58] She cannot tell Lori to call the call.
>> He's not an alman.
[1:11:07] » That's the questions
on the vote of uh
[1:11:12] » are we going toally are we illegally
going to put Dante in office and he
[1:11:17] shouldn't be voting today?
That is not
[1:11:22] » is he's the only property that we drew
into that line. He moved then we redrrew
[1:11:28] the district map so he can still be an
art. That's what really happened. So in
[1:11:33] order for us to cover Dante, we have to
vote to amend this map so that the man
[1:11:39] Dante can still stay sitting up here.
And that's illegal, right? So that's
[1:11:43] what I'm saying. I'm not voting on
anything illegal because if I moved,
[1:11:49] y'all wouldn't change the map for me
illegally. Right.
[1:11:54] » The issue The issue that I have is we
have to illegally vote on this right now
[1:12:01] in order for an alderman to stay an
alderman. And that is an illegal vote.
[1:12:07] And that is the issue that I have with
voting for my friend Dante. I have no
[1:12:12] problems with him, but I won't do
anything illegal
[1:12:17] considering I have a pending case. And
this is illegal. Illegal.
[1:12:22] » He's the only alderman that you drew
out. He moved out of his ward. You
[1:12:28] redrrew the map because you're endorsing
him for mayor.
[1:12:32] » It is illegal. Out of all the alderman,
you pick one alderman
[1:12:36] » alderman your vote
>> and you move his house into another ward
[1:12:41] and then you force the alderman to
>> vote on it. You you stated your case.
[1:12:47] » No, you called the question. I wasn't
done. I still had the floor.
[1:12:51] » We still No. Okay. Well, I challenged
the chair. I challenged the chair.
[1:12:56] » And I'm the chairman now.
>> And I'm saying that
[1:12:59] » and No, you never acknowledged me. See,
you're out of water.
[1:13:02] » So, that's the whole point. And that's
what it is. I'll have everybody I'll
[1:13:07] have this at the back counter.
>> Very good.
[1:13:10] » And what this is is we have an automan
registered in another ward. He's not
[1:13:14] even in his ward. And what we're up here
doing now is covering it up. So, with
[1:13:19] this new map, right, it will allow that
effective immediately, correct? To stay
[1:13:26] an correct?
This is an ordinance addressing a
[1:13:31] redistricting that will go forward for
the 2027 and 2029
[1:13:36] vote.
>> Say that again.
[1:13:40] » This is addressing future voting. We are
redistricting redistricting for 2027 and
[1:13:46] 2029. And and you know what the problem
is? The problem is we've had three
[1:13:51] attorneys here and the last attorney
said that it was effective immediately
[1:13:55] when Alderman Bobby Allen said when does
it take effect and he said it takes
[1:14:01] effect immediately during the
circulation.
[1:14:03] » The ordinance will be adopted
immediately if it passes. However, the
[1:14:07] actual ramifications have to do with
when you are voting.
[1:14:16] I just need to object. I
>> I regress
[1:14:18] » I object to any information being passed
to people with my address on it.
[1:14:26] » It's It's your voter registration card.
>> Find it on their own.
[1:14:29] » It's public.
>> I adise for not to pass out.
[1:14:33] » It's public.
>> I adi then let them find it on their
[1:14:36] own. I advise to not pass out my
address.
[1:14:41] » Why? My address is 1610 Sherman Road.
>> You're a public official. Why wouldn't
[1:14:46] you want your residents to know where
you live?
[1:14:47] » There's a vote on the floor.
>> Evans.
[1:14:58] » I don't think he know anything.
>> Move on.
[1:15:02] » You say yes.
>> He said it already. He moved on.
[1:15:06] Alderman Ray. Yes.
>> Motion carried.
[1:15:11] You can look at me all you want.
[1:15:17] » 7-2 authorization and approval of a
professional service agreement with
[1:15:24] McKenna Associates uh planning group LLC
in the amount not to exceed 142,000
[1:15:31] for code consulting service. Uh yeah,
code consulting service.
[1:15:38] » All right. Good evening, mayor and uh
city council. Um this item was
[1:15:42] previously heard by the economic
development planning and zoning
[1:15:44] committee. Uh it's a proposal to enter
into a professional service agreement
[1:15:48] with McKenna, the planning associates uh
for our uh unified development
[1:15:54] ordinance. Currently, we have a zoning
ordinance and a subdivision ordinance.
[1:15:58] Uh this firm would help us uh
consolidate those into a single unified
[1:16:02] development ordinance that would govern
uh zoning districts and regulations for
[1:16:06] development and use of property
throughout the city.
[1:16:10] » Yes, sir.
>> Before you We did get a motion or a
[1:16:13] second. So you can I'm sorry.
>> Thank you.
[1:16:15] » Is there a motion and a second on 7-2?
>> Second.
[1:16:21] » It's been moved by Brooks second by
Alderman Murphy that uh 7-2 be passed as
[1:16:26] presented. Now go right ahead.
>> My apologies. Thank you.
[1:16:30] » Um so uh this was previously discussed
at the committee. Um this is the same uh
[1:16:36] terms and agreement that was discussed
at that meeting except we had the final
[1:16:40] copy of the professional services
agreement. So that's the reason why it's
[1:16:44] on the regular agenda this evening as
opposed to the omnibus. Again, this
[1:16:48] contracts for $142,000 a not to exceed
number. Um, and this would take uh, of
[1:16:54] course, over the next 18 months that
we'd be working with this planning. So,
[1:16:58] I'm happy to take any questions.
>> Are there any questions to u
[1:17:07] hearing? None. Roll call.
>> Alderman Brooks.
[1:17:13] Hi,
>> Alderman Coleman.
[1:17:14] » I als
[1:17:23] city city bills may als,272.33
[1:17:33] when funds come available. Second move
by Alman Allen second Evans as the city
[1:17:39] bills plus the special one be passed as
presented.
[1:17:43] » Are there questions on the bill?
>> Hearing none. Roll call.
[1:17:48] » Alman Coleman.
>> I als
[1:17:52] Ray.
>> Hi.
[1:17:53] » Alman Murphy.
>> Hi.
[1:17:54] » Alman Brook.
>> Hi.
[1:17:56] » Motion carried. Uh miscellaneous
business. Is there anything on the
[1:17:59] miscellaneous business?
>> Alman Ray got what?
[1:18:07] See,
>> on June 6, I have my um board meeting
[1:18:13] right here 11 o'clock. Hope I see all
y'all.
[1:18:17] » Please come out.
>> Come on.
[1:18:19] » All right. I knew you had one.
>> I was gone.
[1:18:25] » Audrey Evans.
>> Yes. Also on June 6 after you come to
[1:18:31] Alderman Ray's war meeting, make sure
you come. But after that, come over on
[1:18:37] 22nd and Christian. We having a big
community yard sale
[1:18:42] » right across from TV.
>> Right. Right across from TV. Look at
[1:18:45] that. And then we having music
>> Forever Beauty.
[1:18:49] » Right across the street.
>> We got a DJ gonna be out there. You want
[1:18:52] to line dance? You want to party? Clap
your hands. Come on. out there. We got
[1:18:57] food. We got raffles and everything. And
um thanks to the city, I had to learn
[1:19:04] how to do it myself.
[1:19:08] » Those things done by auto.
>> So come on out. I expect to see all of
[1:19:13] you.
>> Thank you.
[1:19:16] » I just want
>> Thank you. recognize the uh deputy chief
[1:19:21] and his and his team for doing a great
job with the uh
[1:19:27] the car show out in front u on Thursday.
That was a great time. They had a lot of
[1:19:31] cars, a lot of food, lot of food trucks.
I just want to give a kud to those.
[1:19:35] Thank you for you and your team for
doing a great job on that. That was
[1:19:38] nice. Excellent job.
[1:19:43] You stole my thunder, but
>> Oh, I didn't know you.
[1:19:47] » Well, keep talking. I got
>> Yeah. No, I I thought you know those who
[1:19:50] were able to come out, you know, we had
uh food trucks out. We had some tin food
[1:19:55] trucks and uh the car show was
fantastic. You're right. Uh assistant
[1:20:01] chief Lun did an excellent job. I know
that in economic development, Stephanie
[1:20:06] also worked very hard, you know, to put
that on. So, we want to, you know, give
[1:20:10] kudos to her. Uh you know, but you know,
when you you throw it out there to to
[1:20:16] have something like this, you want to
make sure that people have an
[1:20:20] opportunity to come and and take part of
it. And you know, uh, I know pretty much
[1:20:26] probably around that 7 o'clock hour, the
street was full and, uh, we had some,
[1:20:31] what was it, 70 cars or better?
>> 80. Wow. We got 80 cars in the car show.
[1:20:38] I mean, it was lined up from Lewis
Avenue all the way down to 17th Street.
[1:20:43] And, uh, you know, so, uh, kudos to
them. Uh, public works, thank you. I
[1:20:49] know you guys were out, you know, uh,
with the barricades and just, you know,
[1:20:53] making sure traffic was rerouted. So,
you know, it was a city effort, but, uh,
[1:20:58] you know, and and we thank you for all
the, you know, all the employees that
[1:21:02] took part in it, but Chief, I know you
said you're looking forward to the next
[1:21:06] time. So, uh, we we're we'll be working
on another one soon in a while.
[1:21:15] » Just one more thing.
>> Yes. Also again, I want to uh thank you
[1:21:18] for um over at Brookstone that grass
cutting over there. I I just talked to
[1:21:24] Dean. He said you guys already they
going to send them over start cutting
[1:21:27] grass tomorrow.
>> Yes.
[1:21:29] » That's a $50 million region over there
and we got grass up there need grass
[1:21:34] cutting. It look bad.
Uh between and I just say between the
[1:21:41] grass and the street lights that are
out.
[1:21:43] » Yeah. uh you know, uh it's it's not
right for those that live in in that
[1:21:50] complex to have to walk out their door
and there's no lighting out there,
[1:21:55] right?
>> Uh you know, that management company is
[1:21:58] going to have to step up and do their
job,
[1:22:00] » right?
>> Or as a city, we're going to have to
[1:22:03] approach them in a way that it gets
their attention. I know that we've been
[1:22:07] working very hard to get their
attention,
[1:22:10] » but uh you know, we still have things
that we can do from our end, but we're
[1:22:15] going to continue to move forward with
say thank you, mayor, for that
[1:22:18] » anytime. I think they deserve it.
>> They deserve it.
[1:22:21] » Yes. And we and we as a city make should
>> support them, right,
[1:22:26] » to to ensure that they they have the uh
you know, safety that they deserve to
[1:22:31] have in that area. Again, just also
piggyback on that. Again, back to the
[1:22:37] police department, right? Uh, you know,
for for them that to have to come out
[1:22:41] there and patrol even more because of
issues that they're having. I want to
[1:22:45] thank them for that what they do uh in
that respect also. So,
[1:22:50] » I want to let you I appreciate that.
>> Anytime. Yes, sir.
[1:22:53] » Thank you.
>> All right. Uh, anything else under
[1:22:56] miscellaneous business? Uh, hearing none
in that, we do have an executive session
[1:23:02] uh under Five, ILCS1 122 C11 litigation
uh when the action against act affecting
[1:23:11] or on behalf of a particular body has
been filed and is in pending off of be
[1:23:18] off before a court or administrative
tribunal. Uh so move
[1:23:27] » moved by Alderman Allen second by Alman
Evans that the city council go into
[1:23:31] executive session. Uh roll call
Jackson
[1:23:37] » Coleman
>> Ildman Evans.
[1:23:39] » Hi Alman Allen.
>> Hi.
[1:23:41] » Alderman Ray.
>> Hi.
[1:23:42] » Alderman Murphy.
>> Hi.
[1:23:43] » Alderman Brooks. Hi.
>> All right. Uh motion carried. We will be
[1:23:47] going into executive session. Uh we'll
be out as soon as we can and then we'll
[1:23:53] go in.
>> All right. I'd like to open up our
[1:23:57] reopen city council meeting.
>> So move second
[1:24:03] Allen Evans at the city council meeting
be reopened. Uh roll call
[1:24:15] Evans
>> here.
[1:24:16] Allen
>> here.
[1:24:17] » Ray
>> here.
[1:24:19] » Murphy
>> present.
[1:24:20] » Present.
>> Entertain a motion to adjourn.
[1:24:22] » So move.
>> Second.
[1:24:25] » Moved by Alman Allen. Second by Alman
Brooks that the city council stand
[1:24:28] adjourned. Are there any questions? All
in favor?
[1:24:32] » Oppos? Motion carried.
[1:24:54] Yes. I'd like to open up the committee
of the whole saying you
[1:24:59] » uh roll call.
>> Alderman Jackson. Alderman Coleman.
[1:25:05] » Alderman Evans
>> here. Alderman
[1:25:07] » here. Alderman Ray
>> here. Alderman Murphy
[1:25:10] » present.
>> Present.
[1:25:11] » All right, we got one item. Discussion
of a liquor license for Nia Hot Slots
[1:25:16] Incorporated 251 Martin Luther King
Drive.
[1:25:22] Greg,
>> Mr. Mayor, members of the committee, the
[1:25:25] whole this just a transfer of a new
business,
[1:25:29] » transfer of business ownership to new
owners. Um, liquor license will remain
[1:25:35] the same. Gaming license will remain the
same. This was one of the businesses
[1:25:39] that we had a first look at based on the
gaming moratorum to make sure it didn't
[1:25:43] encroach on the uh requirements for
gaming. It does not.
[1:25:49] So that's all it is. We're going to ask
uh the city attorney to do the
[1:25:53] housekeeping end of taking
the liquor licenses down and bringing
[1:25:57] them back up because that we don't keep
open liquor licenses.
[1:26:04] » Any questions?
All right. Very good. We'll have this uh
[1:26:08] put on uh city council for the 15th.
[1:26:15] Very good. All right. Thank you. Uh
entertain a motion to adjourn.
[1:26:21] » So move been moved. Alderman Allen
second by Alderman Brooks. Uh
[1:26:28] uh all in favor.
>> Oppos. Motion carried.
[1:26:35] » I would like to
the judiciary committee meeting and I
[1:26:40] get a roll call
[1:26:45] Evans
>> here
[1:26:48] » here Murphy
[1:26:53] » we have two things on the agenda today
ordinance establishing a parking permit
[1:27:00] program
and also we have a discussion
[1:27:09] Chicago
[1:27:14] number one.
>> Number one, we're asking be tabled to
[1:27:17] the next judiciary committee so we can
bring back further information.
[1:27:23] » Any questions about that?
[1:27:33] Number two.
Number two is simply put new date
[1:27:41] » amending the
>> amending the ordinance fit within the
[1:27:44] current statuto
response.
[1:27:49] » In fact, remember we talked about
>> exactly that's correct.
[1:27:59] » Any questions?
Just put that on there.
[1:28:07] So move.
[1:28:25] » I would like to open up the public works
committee meeting. Roll call.
[1:28:29] » Alderman Jackson. Alderman Coleman.
Alderman Evans.
[1:28:34] here.
>> Ray here Murphy
[1:28:36] » present.
>> Um, first item is the consideration and
[1:28:41] approval of contract with Pike View
America and the amount not to exceed
[1:28:47] 150,000 for the fical year 2027 storm
sewer cleaning project. Then we're going
[1:28:54] to have item two, the discussion of
authorization to adver
[1:29:00] year 2027
project not to exceed 170,000. We have
[1:29:07] Steve, city engineer.
>> Good evening everyone. Um item number uh
[1:29:13] one in front of you is uh we currently
are are under contract with Pipe View
[1:29:18] America. We bid the project out last
year. Attached on the second page is the
[1:29:24] the bid results uh from the bidding.
Pipe View was completed the work and as
[1:29:30] part of the contract we included
language in there that allows uh if
[1:29:34] mutually agreeable by both sides, both
the city and the contractor that we can
[1:29:39] extend it for a period of two separate
times for one-year periods. Um so I'm in
[1:29:45] front of you. I spoke to Pipe View. They
would like to they're in of extending
[1:29:50] the contract. Um they've done an
outstanding job. Public works staff uh
[1:29:55] been really happy with the work they've
done and we're here to ask your
[1:29:59] permission to extend the contract to
move it forward.
[1:30:02] » Questions.
[1:30:08] Item number two is uh is uh very similar
to in nature except uh this one we did
[1:30:15] not have uh an annual sanitary sewer
cleaning program last year. So we are
[1:30:20] going out to bid. Uh we will uh we would
like to go out to bid. We have $170,000
[1:30:25] in the budget. It's just the annual
sanitary sewer cleaning project. It's
[1:30:30] nothing exciting but it's very important
like the storm sewer cleaning. It's the
[1:30:35] annual maintenance work that you have to
do to keep the flooding down uh and
[1:30:38] reduce SSOs, which are san sewer
overflows in people's basement. Um
[1:30:46] we're we we've done quite a bit of the
city already, but basically it's we're
[1:30:52] we start in one area, we work our way
all the way around, and we just keep
[1:30:55] going in a circle until we get it all
done and start over again in order to
[1:30:59] keep on top of things. san
[1:31:06] question, Steve. So once we get all
through the city, probably because
[1:31:11] hasn't been done in years. I mean, some
some areas are going to be more cleaner
[1:31:17] than, you know, others. When you start
over again,
[1:31:23] do you get more bang for your buck
because most of it's clean already? I
[1:31:28] mean, it shouldn't be as bad as the
first time, you know? You know what I'm
[1:31:32] trying to say?
>> Yes. Um it it goes faster. What we're
[1:31:35] really finding is that uh there's a lot
of stuff that we don't know that we have
[1:31:39] out there.
>> Uh where public works has gone out and
[1:31:44] they put in an 8 in uh
sewer line uh storm sewer line going up
[1:31:50] an alley and it's completely plugged and
it's not shown on any existing atlases.
[1:31:54] Right.
>> Um, so when it comes to stuff like that,
[1:31:58] we're actually gaining more information
because we're finding it and we're
[1:32:01] cleaning it and we can actually, okay,
hey, there's a problem here. It should
[1:32:06] actually be a 12 in pipe, not a 8 inch
pipe. So,
[1:32:10] but yes. Is it going to get faster and
better? Yes.
[1:32:21] » May I talk about it on 16th Street?
They cut the city street up. So
[1:32:29] that's still on a warranty, right?
>> Correct.
[1:32:32] » And your fees on a warranty.
>> Yes. There's the city is not paying for
[1:32:38] any of this. So what happened on as part
of
[1:32:42] » as part of the storm sewer cleaning
project? Uh we identified where we had a
[1:32:47] couple uh service lines where the
contractor that installed them
[1:32:52] directionally drilled them and they
actually installed them uh through our
[1:32:55] existing uh storm sewer system. So when
we were in there cleaning them, we
[1:33:00] identified them. So they have to come
back and they have to put in a new I
[1:33:04] think there's three or four spots where
they did that. Um
[1:33:08] » five or six.
>> Is there five or six?
[1:33:10] » Yeah. So they have to come back and they
have to turn around and go from the
[1:33:15] water man which is out in the street and
put in a new copper service line and
[1:33:19] dive it down and miss all all the storm
sore and then they have to fix the storm
[1:33:25] sword as well because they put a hole
through it.
[1:33:28] » Right. So the road once we fix this now
because it's under warranty but that
[1:33:35] road start getting uneven again they
going to be still warranty because you
[1:33:38] know how when you cut that road
it's going to stop
[1:33:43] » yeah we're going to make sure that they
they patch it properly and they compact
[1:33:48] the trench back fill material.
>> Uh and then we're going to make sure
[1:33:51] that they're going to do a nice big
patch, not a small little patch.
[1:33:55] » What's the time on this?
>> Uh we should be having it here in the
[1:33:58] next I would think within the next
month.
[1:34:05] » And real quick though, your your bill to
oversee that goes to them.
[1:34:14] » Um,
>> it should, right?
[1:34:18] » It should.
>> Yes.
[1:34:23] » I mean, you know, if they did a mistake,
did that type of mistake, somebody cover
[1:34:28] your cost to make sure it's done
properly.
[1:34:30] » Yep.
>> I will be to one of the bill that they
[1:34:35] want.
>> Okay.
[1:34:42] » Yeah. Um actually that's that's uh
second w there. Quick question. um the
[1:34:48] sidewalks.
Um at the time that you did 16th Street,
[1:34:52] I had requested that um you replace the
sidewalks to go with the street. Um the
[1:35:00] sidewalks, there was a sidewalk that was
real bad. And I at the same time you did
[1:35:05] the street, I requested that you do the
sidewalks as well. And you said that you
[1:35:10] want to do them. and you did a really
good job on the sidewalk that I had
[1:35:16] identified, right? But there's like four
places that might have been overlooked
[1:35:23] because it seemed like the attempt was
there to do all the sidewalks. It just
[1:35:27] seemed like they missed a piece of it.
Would is that part of the guarantee
[1:35:33] warranty?
>> No.
[1:35:35] » No. Okay. That's something I would
probably have to talk to the public
[1:35:38] works chair.
>> Yes. Let us know the spots. Are they
[1:35:43] broken up really bad? Because that's
>> Yeah, they just missed it. That's
[1:35:48] You guys did like the whole street, but
there's like four blocks there. So, it
[1:35:53] was
>> Yeah, give me a list and I'll I'll get
[1:35:58] it taken care of.
>> Okay. I just if it was free that's why
[1:36:02] I'm asking now because it went out of
warranty of free but I'm sure they take
[1:36:07] care.
>> Thank you Steve.
[1:36:11] » You're welcome.
[1:36:15] Can you come up?
[1:36:28] » I just wanted you to inform everybody.
Is it still going on every Thursday in
[1:36:34] awards?
>> Once a month.
[1:36:36] » Once a month. Once a month.
>> Once a month. Right.
[1:36:39] » For everybody at the same time or
>> it's they it takes two days
[1:36:44] » and they have two sweepers and they do
the entire city.
[1:36:53] » Do what?
>> Which week? The first week or second
[1:36:55] week?
>> I know it's on Thursday. Yeah, it's the
[1:36:59] third week.
>> Third week, right?
[1:37:01] » I just want everybody.
>> Right.
[1:37:04] » Okay.
>> Before you sit down,
[1:37:13] » Mr. Chairman.
>> Um, did you make any progress on the
[1:37:17] sweet sweeper? Uh, any information on
the sweet sweeper?
[1:37:20] » It uh didn't appear to make the budget.
>> Okay. All right. Okay.
[1:37:24] » Next time.
>> All right. Any
[1:37:28] other questions? Okay. At this time, I'd
like to close the public works committee
[1:37:33] meeting.
[1:37:36] » Second by Ray. Roll call.
[1:37:42] » Alderman Jackson. Alderman Coleman.
>> Hi.
[1:37:46] » Evans.
>> Hi. Alderman.
[1:37:48] » Hi. Alderman Ray.
>> Hi.
[1:37:49] » Alderman Murphy.
>> Hi.
[1:37:50] » Alderman Brook.
>> Hi.
[1:37:56] like to open up the finance audit
committee meeting rolloff.
[1:38:01] » Alderman Jackson, Alderman Coleman
>> Alman Allen
[1:38:05] » here.
[1:38:10] We have one item discussion of the FY
2027 appropriation or one.
[1:38:20] Good evening, council.
Being that I'm the last one on this
[1:38:25] agenda, yeah,
>> let's go ahead and get it started.
[1:38:28] » So, we're just here to uh to set the
public hearing for uh June 15, 26 uh
[1:38:35] 2026 at 6 PM um at for our passing of
our appropriation budget. Um we, as we
[1:38:44] know, we have to pass it every year by
the end of the first quarter of the
[1:38:48] fiscal year. And so we want to make sure
we get everything processed. Um
[1:38:52] generally it's just the budget with 5%
on top of it is how we pass the
[1:38:57] appropriation. But alderman Allen we try
to stay within the budget line that we
[1:39:01] pass um on last
just before you say that. So, we try to
[1:39:06] stay within those parameters.
And so, we're just asking for us to set
[1:39:11] the hearing date and for a um it will be
published in the newspaper on June 4th,
[1:39:18] which is um we require 10 days prior to
the the P uh 10 days prior to the public
[1:39:24] hearing in order for us to pass it. So,
>> any questions on the appropriation?
[1:39:29] » Mr. Chairman.
>> Yes. Go ahead.
[1:39:31] » Uh Tanda.
>> Yes, sir. And the council meeting serve
[1:39:34] as a public hearing.
>> Uh we do it before the council meeting.
[1:39:39] So the mayor will open up the um the
meet the public hearing. We have the
[1:39:44] public hearing. We'll close it and then
we'll start the public the council
[1:39:47] meeting.
>> The question is do we even have to have
[1:39:50] a public hearing? Can we
>> Yes. Yes, we do.
[1:39:52] » Okay. So public hearing and council
meeting is two separate things.
[1:39:55] » Oh yes, absolutely.
>> All right. Well, we we we will have the
[1:39:59] public we the public hearing inside of
the council meeting if that makes sense.
[1:40:04] » But it' be two separate things.
>> The council meeting doesn't serve as a
[1:40:09] public hearing.
>> Correct. That is correct. No, we are
[1:40:11] going to have official public beach
hearing.
[1:40:16] 6
>> o'm
[1:40:24] a question.
>> What's that?
[1:40:27] » He just explained.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Can I get motion?
[1:40:37] » Alman.
>> All in favor say I. Eyes heavy gold.