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Mr. Mayor, you are now life. All right, coraming president,

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I'd like to call this meeting order, our first site

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of my business as a resolution to close meeting the

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public at 3 p. m. The recommendations that we close

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a meeting on the basis of alling sections of the

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Community Charter, Section 91A, 91B, 91C, 91E, 91F, 91J, 91K,

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92B2, and 92B3 with some like booth of recommendation by

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Councillor Stash, second to buy Councillor Finley, any discussion. I'll

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call the question all in favor. And oppose and oppose

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motion carried. We'll now move into close.

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Mr. Mayor, you're now live. I'd like to begin by

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acknowledging or gather here today on the traditional lands, the

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quotes and people with a quorum being present. I'd like

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to resume our council meeting. Before we get started, I'm

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just going to pass on regrets from Councillor Mike Calio,

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who's going to be joining us for the September 2nd

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meeting. So we'll start with the approval of the consent

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agenda. Are there any items, any members of Council would

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like move to new business for discussion. Councillor Stache? I

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guess any of them would work, but I'll just pick

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4. 2. 5 because the three of three letters are

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all the same. All right, any other items? I'd like

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to pull item 4. 2. 9 and 4. 2. 11.

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All right, with someone then like to move the recommendation,

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the Council approved the consent agenda and the recommendations contain

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therein. Moved by Councillor Family, Second of my Council Justice,

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any discussion. All in favor. And oppose, not opposed motion

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carries. We will now move on to approval of the

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meeting agenda. We have a recommendation. The agenda be adopted

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as circulated with something like to move that. Move by

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Councillor Stache, second to buy Council Manhouse. Any discussion? Called

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a question all in favor. And opposed, not opposed motion

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carries. We'll now move on to the Mayor's report. And

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I'll keep this brief, because we got a lot of

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business ahead of us. So over the course of August,

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there's been many community events. I've had an opportunity to

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attend, and I've been joined by many of you around

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this Council table. Earlier this month, the Penelope tribe held

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the march for the children in Chemanus, which was meant

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to honour those who attended the residential schools throughout this

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province and the injustices committed through that system. Want to

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acknowledge the work from the Palica tribe and organising that

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event and all the folks from the community who came

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out in support. As well as the residential school survivors

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and their families who were able to step forward and

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share their stories earlier this month. I also joined, and

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sorry, also who also attended that meeting was Councillor Estach.

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Earlier this month, I also joined Councillor's Finley and Manhouse

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for Crofton Day. This was a family - friendly event

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organised by the Croft and Community Centre Society in the

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Warmland Church. Many volunteers throughout the community. It was intended

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to bring young families together, but also celebrate this hidden

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gem here in our municipality. And then finally, over the

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weekend, I joined Councillor's Finley and Estash for the Couch

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and Craft Beard Food Festival, which is held in Chemanus.

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This is organised by the Shimanus Business Approvement Association. It

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brought together 30 breweries from right across BC, including some

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local ones here, whole wide range of food vendors, as

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well as live music, and it was a great event

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for bringing tourism money into our community. Also wanted to

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provide Council members of the public with an update on

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the mill closure response working group, as you'll recall earlier

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this year, established this in response to the developments of

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the Croft and Mills site, as well as the ongoing

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retailment at the Shimane Assawmill. It includes Residents from our,

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includs our member of Parliament, our MLA industry, labour representatives

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as well, and a big focus of that group has

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been on advocacy. There has been some recent developments. They

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want to make sure Council is aware of. So if

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you recall, this spring, the province and federal government announced

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a tariff response agreement. It was a 70 million dollar

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agreement over three years that they negotiated with the federal

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government to provide supports to workers and industry impacted by

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the terrorists and disruptions in the forestry sector. The province

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just recently announced a new program called the Forestry Training

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Grant. So that's being administered by an outfit called the

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Northern Development Initiative Trust based in Prince George. It's coordinating

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this program right across the province. But basically what happens

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is a company in the forestry sector and related industries

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that can include mining and manufacturing companies as well. They

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can access funding through the provincial government to subsidize the

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wages and training costs. If they hire impacted forestry workers,

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it's not just forestry workers, they've included workers and other

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tariff impacted industries as well. But obviously the big folks

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is on those who've been impacted by the mill closures,

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making a lot of headway with this group. Do want

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to acknowledge the leadership provided by the working group members,

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including Brian Bull, one of the workers from the Shimanus

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Samil, who's brought forward some great ideas serving on this

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committee. One of these is looking at ways we can

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try to get some of the mining companies in northern

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BC involved in this initiative. Obviously, a lot of these

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workers, they got families and roots here in the community

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and don't want to leave, but there could be some

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good paying employment in that region of the province. We're

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trying to find different ways to facilitate that. And yeah,

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the workers who have been impacted by these milk closures

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through their participation on the working group has shown a

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tremendous amount of leadership and moving this forward and really

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trying to create opportunities for their co - workers from

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these sites. Also had a chance recently to meet with

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some of the residents in the King's View area along

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the, in the Kwamechin Lake Watershed. So they raise concerns.

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And these have been going on for about over a

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year now with speeding, partying, and the area, which for

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obvious reasons tends to get a lot worse than that

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the summer when a lot of younger folks throw out

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a school. It's gotten a lot worse. Uh, this summer,

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and they've also expressed concern around some of the plan

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development in that area. So I did have a chance

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to meet with about 40 of these residents RCP were

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there as well. Um, so that information has been shared

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with staff to see what options we have to address

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some of these concerns. I did convey to the residents

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though in terms of the development planned in the area

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that we do have a process here at the municipality

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where, um, the applicant would have to come before Council

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would be seeking first and second reading. And there would

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be a public hearing process for that as well. But

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I have encouraged residents reach out to individual members accounts.

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So if you'd like to share your feedback, um, have

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also advised something that they can apply as a delegation

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to present to us. So if you hear from some

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of the folks in that area, just, yeah, giving you,

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uh, warning that I've encouraged them to reach out to

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individually. And then finally, uh, last week I had a

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chance to join the, uh, team at the Salmonas Marsh

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Wildlife Society. So as Council's aware, um, for the past

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decade, they've had a problem with parrots feather. So this

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is a plant originally from the Amazon that people often

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use in their aquariums. And we assume at some point

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somebody must have dumped what was in their aquarium into

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Salmano's Creek. And it's created a major infestation. The length

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of the creek all the way down to Lake Stroh

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Bridge to Zahalum Bridge. And then from there to the

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couch and river. Um, it's become like it was getting

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worse and worse every year. Um, going back, I believe

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it was in 2023. The Salmonos Marsh Society really put

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a lot of effort into cleaning that up. And so

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they, um, they basically cut about a two metre channel,

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the length of most of Sominus Creek from the Zohalim

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Road Bridge all the way to the Son of those

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lake itself, which is important for the fish population. It's

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very labour intensive, but has been effective. And, um, yeah,

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I managed to join them that morning. We got about

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12 totes of parrots feather out of the creek. And

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if any members, the counts are interested in getting out

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there one morning and volunteering, it's, um, it's worthwhile, uh,

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and they'd love to have you out there. So I

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concluded my mayor's report. If we can now move on

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to public input. So as Council is aware we allow

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a maximum of five speakers or three minutes each, but

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we've always been quite flexible around that row. We do

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have eight people who have signed up. And I like

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to give them all a chance to address counsel if

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that's okay with everyone around this table. We did have

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another individual who missed the cutoff by five minutes and

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is asked if he could speak as well. So if

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that's okay with counts, I'm going to allow him as

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well. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay. So we've got nine

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speakers then. Start from the top here. Casey Brandt could

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come up to the podium. State your address. And it's

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three minutes. You're going to have. Just right there. And

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you're going to want to hit the button to turn

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the mic on. Hello. So I'm Casey Brandt. I live

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at 1458 Adelaide Street. And I'm here to talk a

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bit the zoning amendment bylaw that's up for adoption this

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evening, uh, 407 one. So that's for a rezoning on

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Adelaide Street. And I got a notification about this rezoning

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on about June 3rd. And it was mentioning dividing it

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to 18 lots. But digging a little further, which wasn't

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actually on that first piece of paper was that the

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intention is to build up to 57 or approximately 57

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townhouses. So that's a significantly higher density. That then is

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in the region currently in this area. And I understand

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from Bill 44 that there isn't a requirement for a

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public hearing on this development. However, it does need to

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comply with the official community plan. Um, and also fit

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with what the community desires, uh, staff had identified in

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the report that it doesn't meet all of the, uh,

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criteria for the local area of plan. And in speaking

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with some neighbours, um, the people that I've had the

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chance to talk to, um, the concerns. Chiefly, we don't

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really have an idea of what this looks like. There's

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no, you know, the drawings. There's no details on what

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the final thing will look like. They're also concerns around

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the impact on traffic on Adelaide Street. The amount of

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parking availability school capacity. Impact on people's taxes.

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So, um, I've been away for five the last 10

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weeks. I haven't had a lot of time to talk

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to people, but I feel like there's not broad support.

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Maybe that's overstating it. I've only really talked to you

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about 12 people representing 12 households. So it's not a

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lot. But I think if I had the chance to

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talk to more people, if more people were aware of

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the density being proposed here, um, there might be more

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concerns about it. That's all. Right. Thank you. When did

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I move on to the next speaker? Charlene Chuai from

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Sweeney Road. You can come up the podium. You see

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your dress.

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I forget it's really in chewy. I live next door

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to eight six four one. Um, who is trying to

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change some amendments of the two acres that we live

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on. And, uh, I was told it was going to

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be like a cottage size home. And I just found

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out that's going to be like 940 square foot plus

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a garage or a carport or something like that. So

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I think my concerns are, um, on the size location

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and water. Um, we're very limited to water where we

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live right now because we're all on wells. And will

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this set up a president's for our quiet neighbourhood. This

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is why we've moved here for the room and space

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without a neighbour nearby. For less dense neighbourhood. This would

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take away all of this that we have up here.

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That's the reason we've moved up here. I don't know

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what the specs are for house sizes, what we're allowed.

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Or, you know, the location he's trying to move. And,

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um, I would just like to know more about it.

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Okay. Thank you. Thank you. And we don't, uh, normally

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answer questions during public input, but we will get to

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the site em later on in the agenda. And we

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can always ask staff provide a bit of an overview.

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All right, and next I'd like to welcome up Brian

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Bowl. Mr. Bull, if you come up with the podium,

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state your address. Good evening.

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Brian Bull 5877 Jane's Road. I'm here to speak on

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the motion 12. 2. The letter to be sent or

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asked to be sent to the minister of forest regarding

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manufacturing in the valley. Um, like I said, we've watched

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jobs erode from the valley. You know, she may have

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sawmill temporarily curtailed since June. Crofting go down, you know,

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400 plus jobs. Now Couching Bay is down temporarily curtailed

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until the end of the year. So as far as

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supports from any of federal or provincial governments, it's been

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nil. Lots of talk, no problem, you know, no problems

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as, um, through working with the mill response group. We've

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had, you know, a little bit of traction. But I

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think, you know, listening to what the representative from Western

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forest products and Dom Turbo said that mayors and councils

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in all, you know, towns have a lot of power.

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And right now, I think if we can find a

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way to find support for some form of manufacturing throughout,

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you know, and this motion is just a stepping stone

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towards that would be helpful for the people in the

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valley. Because, you know, like I said, with all these

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jobs that are gone, they're all high paying jobs. They

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all pay taxes and people are having to leave. You

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know, the lots of young guys that are moving to

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Alberta, they have no choice. Um, the mining sector with

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what Mayor Douglas mentioned earlier is an option, but still

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families are going to have to be disrupted with that.

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So, you know, writing a letter to, you know, the

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forest minister and asking to have, you know, have local

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governments having input. I think would be, you know, very

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easy. Um, it's a letter. But we as a, as

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a town, you know, and all the towns up and

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down the island in the interior. We have to start

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doing something. Because right now nothing is being done. You

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know, like I said, the disruption of what's happened in

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the last year in this valley is, you know, is

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quite immense and it's, but it's everywhere in the interior,

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a hundred mile house terrace. It goes on and on

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and on. And, you know, I think as Mayor and

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Council, we, you know, again, sending a letter to the,

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to the ministry is a simple way. But, you know,

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trying to get some support for the workers that are

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here. Because like I said earlier, there has been no

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support. Through federal supports or provincial support. So anything that,

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you know, the local group can do would be very

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helpful. So. Uh, but, uh, yeah, that's all I got.

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Great. Thank you. Then move on to the next speaker,

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uh, Cepan Bupari. I'm going to come at the podium

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state your address. Good afternoon Mayor Council. Thank you. My

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name is Hop and Bopry. And I'm born and raised

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on the island. And I've watched too many of my

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friends have to leave. Good people who wanted to stay,

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but couldn't afford to buy a home here. So they

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had to move away, a place with they grew up,

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away from their families. And lost. That's a loss for

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this community feels, even we don't name it. I've been

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fortunate. I have found a partner who's been developing on

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this island from 40 years who gently wants to give

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back to the community. And that gave him so much.

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There isn't one single development that he can't walk through

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with his head held high. Places where people come out

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still to say hello to him. Some of the projects

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are held up as a standard right next door in

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the CVRD. That's the caliber of the builder standing behind

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this project. He builds quality. He stands behind what he

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does. And that's exactly the standard we're building and bringing

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to North Country. I think it is very easy to

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speak and say the other people upset about this development.

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But I think we need to look at the options

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for young people to be able to step in and

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have a chance at ownership. What we're building on out

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of lane street is a real opportunity for space for

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young families to put down roots and a real chance

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for ownership. Who thought that doorhead closed. It's not only

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young people. We've designed this development deliberately for older couples

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looking to downsize as well. To stay in the community,

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they lived in for decades close to their families and

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in homes that fits the stage of their life. We

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did this by staying true to the local area plan.

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And that's what we talk about the middle missing. Housing

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housing. It also creates a new tax base that helps

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to spread the loan and the ease pressure against the

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existing taxpayers across North Couchen. This is the kind of

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project I want my name on and I'm grateful for

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the support in adopting this tonight. Thank you. Thank you.

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I move on to the next speaker, Stephen Volker. I

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believe it's participating online. If you want to state your

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address.

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Mr. Volker. Oh. I'm on. That's okay.

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Mr. Volker. Can you hear me now. Yeah. We can

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hear you now if you want to state your address.

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And jump right into it. Oh yes, excuse me. Yes.

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I was having difficulty figuring out the control system here.

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Uh, good evening Mayor Douglas and councillors. My name is

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Steven Volcker and I live at 2217 Tarn Place. I'd

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first like to address agenda item 9. 1 concerning developer

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donations and disclosure of developer meetings. Public trusting government is

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critical in a democracy. It can be lost very quickly.

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And takes years to rebuild. Over the past number of

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years. There's been a growing perception that Special Interests have

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the inside track. That their needs weigh more heavily than

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the publics. Transparency helped to combat that perception. Echoing this,

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we find that on this year's municipal satisfaction survey, residents

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highest need for information from the municipality. Was for transparency

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and accountability. The two highest needs for information after that

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were regarding building projects and new developments. And finally municipal

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planning. Given the many millions of dollars in profits that

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new buildings and new developments represent two developers and the

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real estate industry, it's important that the municipality set a

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high standard of reporting and disclosures from Council members. Item

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9. 1 does just that. I hope all of you

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will vote for it tonight. The second item I wish

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to address concerns item 12. 2 support for a Vancouver

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Island value added wood manufacturing strategy. Councillor Justice makes admirable

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suggestions to protect our local workers in the wood manufacturing

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industry. In North Cowlican, we have seen several hundred mail

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workers lose their jobs due to closure of the crafted

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mill. We need to bring more innovation to this sector.

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To save and add jobs. Through time and by banding

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together, laid off workers and others may find the job

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opportunities of the future. This is critical. For our municipality.

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Please approve this worthy motion. Thank you. Thank you. We'll

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now move on to the next speaker, Dexter Williams. If

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you want to come up the podium, stay your dress.

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Good evening. You're Douglas and members of Council. Dexter Williams.

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Six, seven, seven two, leakfront drive. I'm here on behalf

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of the ownership group of Adalil Street Project. We've worked

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hard with North Couch and staff to bring forward a

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well - planned residential development that will believe that we

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have a positive addition to Crofton. Crofton needs new housing.

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And different housing. Choices for families, working people and people

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who want to remain in the community. The project represents

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a significant private investment in Crofton. And will create a

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construction activity. Most importantly. Much needed new homes. Understanding the

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changes can create concerns in the neighbourhood. We are respectful

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for those concerns. We work through the municipalities process with

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continuous work with North Couch into address requirements associated with

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development. We believe this is a good project for Crofton.

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I respectfully ask the Council to be support of this.

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Thank you. Thank you. When I move on to the

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next speaker, Joyce Benson. If you want to come out

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for the podium, stay your address. Yes, good afternoon, Mayor

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and Council, Joyce Benson, drinkwater Road, North Collegean. And I'm

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referring to items, agenda items 4. 2. 4. 5 and.

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6. And, uh, what these are is, um, they are

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requests for support letters from other local governments in British

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Columbia, Central District of Central Okanagan, the village of Slocan,

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and City of Salmon Arm in one refers to the

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Part of Municipality of Senate as well. So the request

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that they put forward is that the province of BC

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confirm for the consistent, continuous funding for the LG CAP,

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which is the local government climate action program. This is

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taxpayers money. And I'm going to bring up the fact

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that with that, the municipality of North Couchn has been

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charging tax to us taxpayers, same people, uh, for 14

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years, 13 and a half years now since 2014, calling

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at the Climate Action Energy Plan. The Reserve Fund in

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2025 for the CAPE. So this isn't a question. It's

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putting it forward. This seems to be a double whammy,

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and I'm not sure. Anyway, North Cowlicks Reserve Fund for

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the Climate Action Energy Planet, the start of 2025 was

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almost, well, it's three quarters of a million dollars, 721,

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000 plus, and they spent about 570, 000 last year.

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To do with climate action. And now this year, the

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2026 Climate Action Reserve Fund starts at, part of me,

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will end at 320, 000 gathering about 170, 000. Lots

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of money is going through this. And my question is,

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are, it's not a question, I'm sorry. My point is,

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really, are we being taxed locally as well as provincially.

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And now both, I read the same day that I

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read this agenda. Item, that North Couch and is putting

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out for local community grant applications for funding. With our

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tax dollars. And anyway, I'm just saying, this seems to

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be double whammy, double all over the place. And I'm

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just addressing it as a very strong concern. Thank you.

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Thank you. Now move on to the next speaker, Karen

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Ungrin. If you want to come up with podium, state

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your address. Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is

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Kieran Ungrund. I'm speaking in support of the Transparency Motion

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tonight, item 9. 1. I want to start with the

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number. In the 2025 Edelman Tress Barometers, Canada Report, 62

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percent of Canadians said they hold a moderate or high

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sense of grievance toward government and business. A belief that

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both serve narrow interests over the publics. To illustrate that,

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I'm not sure that the crowd here tonight is necessarily

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Representative of the General Population that comes. They're evenings at

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Council meetings, but that would mean like roughly this half

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of the room. As the Edelman CO Bianca Friedman put

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it, trust is not a passive asset. It's earned through

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both ethical leadership and demonstratable competence at every level. Sustainational

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number, but it lands close to home. This Council referred

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this donation's meetings disclosure policy staff last September, and it's

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only coming back for review now. A separate gift in

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Hospitality question was raised in relation to the use of

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a vehicle by Council, which was noted by the CAO,

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as noted and under review, but no result has ever

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been made public. I'm not alleging wrongdoing, but what I

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am saying is that these are exactly the gaps that

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a road confidence and this motion can start to close

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them. Concerns about donations by developers with live applications coming

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before Council have been noted by others in previous meetings

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and questioned. So tonight I'm asking you to support the

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disclosure policy. Public disclosure of developer donations, a public meeting

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slog, and real consideration of Recusil. Are the basics of

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restoring trust. I'm also asking you to go one step

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further tonight. Shine the same lens on the gifts policy

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in the standards of conduct. As those caps mean very

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little without a matching public disclosure requirement. Pair this motion

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with a companions gift disclosure policies so the two can

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work together. This won't fix trust overnight. Nothing will, but

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it is a real and concrete step and it's one

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that you have the power to make tonight. Thank you.

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Thank you. We'll now move on to the last speaker,

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Peter Russland. If you want to come up with a

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podium, state your address.

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Thanks for your patience and slipping me in at the

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last minute. Uh, your worship. Hence my disheveled appearance. I

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usually shave before I come to the Council. Um. I'm

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going to, I just want to say a couple things

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about 13. 1 and 13 and 9. 1. 13. 14,

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sorry. I am Peter Russland at 5807 banks Road North

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Cowching. Um, regarding 13. 1, I would wholeheartedly, uh, support

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our staff, uh, yourself and Council Aristh to look at

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the folly and the risks of allowing AI centres and

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other data centres into North Cowlican for severe, uh, environmental

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problems, noise, water, uh, power use. Uh, loss of farmland,

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et cetera, that, uh, will not, as far as I

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know, fed into ROCP anywhere. Hence a honing bylaw amendment.

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So I would urge Council to support that. And I

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know you do have to collect all information. Uh, and

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consider all information. We make a decisions. Um, moving on

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to night point one, your worship, uh, again, uh, strongly

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support the concerns of Mr. Volcker. And Corrine about, um,

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policy 9. 1 about, um, campaign donations, which as we

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all know, are also covered under elections BC. And the,

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uh, the Recus in voting, if the, uh, quote, a

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real or perceived bias in decision making, uh, many folks

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in this valley, including myself, have, uh, have ascertained a

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real or perceived bias in some decision making around this

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table. Um, by, uh, councillors Finley Hogg, Madhouse and Calio.

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Um, particularly, uh, so I would urge Council to definitely

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all of Council to boost, trust in our, our government,

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uh, and pass this policy that, as Karen just said,

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uh, was tabled a year ago, uh, when, um, part

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of it was at staff had to look into a

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02:41:22,701 --> 02:41:27,021
few things. I remember Councillor Finley, one thing he wanted

471
02:41:27,122 --> 02:41:31,218
was staff to look into the definition of developer. Um,

472
02:41:31,319 --> 02:41:34,703
even though he is one. So I would, uh, again,

473
02:41:34,703 --> 02:41:41,204
urge Council to unannisfully unanimously. Past 9. 1. Thanks for

474
02:41:41,244 --> 02:41:46,244
worship. Thank you. That concludes public input. We're now going

475
02:41:46,244 --> 02:41:49,244
to move on to delegations. We've got, uh, first, a

476
02:41:49,244 --> 02:41:53,544
delegation from the Couch Valley Cooperative Marketplace. I'd like to

477
02:41:53,544 --> 02:41:56,084
welcome up Lauren Bosch and John Morton with the podium.

478
02:42:02,299 --> 02:42:06,534
Welcome. Uh, hi, thank you for having us, Council. It's

479
02:42:06,555 --> 02:42:10,854
a pleasure to be here, especially, um, myself being a

480
02:42:10,894 --> 02:42:14,134
new farmer in this valley, North Couch has been nothing

481
02:42:14,155 --> 02:42:17,574
but supportive of us since we got here. Uh, but

482
02:42:17,755 --> 02:42:21,814
I am here today to talk about the Couch and

483
02:42:21,814 --> 02:42:27,494
Valley online cooperative marketplace, uh, which is a organisation that

484
02:42:28,235 --> 02:42:33,174
many of you may know. We'll go to the next

485
02:42:33,174 --> 02:42:40,188
slide here. Here we go. Yeah. Um, so the, the

486
02:42:40,449 --> 02:42:44,668
co - op, uh, is, is basically the food hub

487
02:42:44,668 --> 02:42:50,588
of the Cowwichon Valley. It's a nonprofit cooperative that runs

488
02:42:50,628 --> 02:42:54,348
a weekly online farmers market, uh, it connects 70 plus

489
02:42:54,449 --> 02:42:58,588
local farmers and food producers directly with customers across the

490
02:42:58,769 --> 02:43:01,868
Couch and Valley, uh, our mission is to strengthen local

491
02:43:01,889 --> 02:43:05,388
food resilience by helping farmers reach more customers, grow sales

492
02:43:05,809 --> 02:43:09,388
and keep local food producing and producing and thriving in

493
02:43:09,409 --> 02:43:19,057
our valley. Since 2015, uh, we've fulfilled over 30,

494
02:43:19,398 --> 02:43:25,937
000 orders, um, and we support an estimated 180 jobs,

495
02:43:25,937 --> 02:43:29,297
uh, through co - op sales on the producer side,

496
02:43:29,297 --> 02:43:33,617
the farming side, uh, the logistic side, uh, we have

497
02:43:34,278 --> 02:43:38,497
over 70 farmers and food producers currently selling on co

498
02:43:38,537 --> 02:43:42,417
- op, uh, and distributing their food and products all

499
02:43:42,457 --> 02:43:46,127
across the valley. And we roughly have a blended sales

500
02:43:46,127 --> 02:43:55,808
margin of about 32 percent as of 2024. I'd like

501
02:43:55,808 --> 02:43:59,168
to talk a little bit about why food security matters

502
02:43:59,269 --> 02:44:03,248
now and how we have been contributing it since opening

503
02:44:03,288 --> 02:44:09,879
our doors in 2015. We believe that, uh, a resilient

504
02:44:09,919 --> 02:44:15,067
local food system is essential infrastructure. We're all aware of

505
02:44:15,968 --> 02:44:23,702
global food systems becoming increasingly disrupted, destabilized. We're all aware

506
02:44:23,742 --> 02:44:28,262
of rising costs, supply chain disruptions and how they affect

507
02:44:28,363 --> 02:44:32,902
everyone. Um, and we believe supporting local farms and producers

508
02:44:32,923 --> 02:44:38,582
strengthens our regional food resilience. And cow up also makes

509
02:44:38,582 --> 02:44:46,784
sure that local dollars stay within our regional economy. Just

510
02:44:47,365 --> 02:44:50,624
a quick note on the problem we're solving and helping

511
02:44:50,885 --> 02:44:59,200
local farms access modern markets. It might not come to

512
02:44:59,240 --> 02:45:02,960
a surprise to people that, uh, some of the most

513
02:45:02,981 --> 02:45:07,760
excellent farmers, uh, are not always the best marketers or

514
02:45:07,781 --> 02:45:13,840
tech people, um, as we know, uh, markets sales are

515
02:45:13,840 --> 02:45:18,780
increasingly going online the forms in which people are, uh,

516
02:45:19,301 --> 02:45:23,600
buying and selling is, is changing at a rapid pace,

517
02:45:23,600 --> 02:45:26,800
uh, but cow - op has them covered with online

518
02:45:26,821 --> 02:45:33,040
sales marketing product photography, customer communication, uh, weekly delivery logistics

519
02:45:33,621 --> 02:45:43,122
and inventory management. Quick overview of our sales, our

520
02:45:43,122 --> 02:45:49,154
revenues since, uh, 2018. Cow - up was here for

521
02:45:49,175 --> 02:45:54,414
the community, uh, during the COVID - 19 pandemic, uh,

522
02:45:54,935 --> 02:46:00,834
our salespeak. justunder half a million. And we've slowly over

523
02:46:00,935 --> 02:46:05,534
time been stabilizing ourselves in the market, uh, with, uh,

524
02:46:05,735 --> 02:46:09,714
just over a quarter million dollars in sales as of

525
02:46:10,455 --> 02:46:20,381
2025. We did a survey, um, that included, uh,

526
02:46:20,582 --> 02:46:24,641
producers and how CAOP was supporting their businesses.

527
02:46:30,454 --> 02:46:35,578
Would have a significant impact on their business. And 66

528
02:46:35,618 --> 02:46:39,018
percent said permanent closure would have a significant impact on

529
02:46:39,039 --> 02:46:42,071
their business. It's worth noting here that co - op

530
02:46:42,071 --> 02:46:44,911
has been making meaningful differences for farmers and local food

531
02:46:44,932 --> 02:46:48,031
producers for over a decade. And the Cowwich and Valley.

532
02:46:52,414 --> 02:46:58,730
2026 is a new growth phase for us. This year

533
02:46:58,831 --> 02:47:04,470
we have new board leadership renewed energy, added sales, uh,

534
02:47:04,511 --> 02:47:10,970
with marketing and promotional expertise. We've launched direct producer outreach,

535
02:47:10,970 --> 02:47:13,690
uh, called Coop Source, which I'll touch on on the

536
02:47:13,711 --> 02:47:20,650
following slides. We're undergoing customer reactivation, calls and emails or

537
02:47:20,650 --> 02:47:24,650
organising, um, major sales. We'll have a presence at the

538
02:47:24,911 --> 02:47:30,010
Cobble Hill Fair this weekend. Um, we've launched producer photography

539
02:47:30,191 --> 02:47:35,368
and storytelling sessions. We've planned radio content and event -

540
02:47:35,368 --> 02:47:40,088
based promotion and strengthened partnerships with local agricultural organisations like

541
02:47:40,349 --> 02:47:46,164
the Cowwich and Agricultural Society. I want to talk to

542
02:47:46,204 --> 02:47:48,484
everyone a little bit about Cow - op - sourced.

543
02:47:50,550 --> 02:47:55,969
So traditionally the way Cow - Up works is producers

544
02:47:56,009 --> 02:48:02,209
will come online and use our platform called local food

545
02:48:02,249 --> 02:48:06,289
marketplace to list their products and what they have available

546
02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:11,329
on a weekly basis. Uh, it does take a little

547
02:48:11,329 --> 02:48:17,169
bit of understanding on, you know, how platforms and sales

548
02:48:17,209 --> 02:48:21,532
databases work. Co - op source is a program where

549
02:48:22,113 --> 02:48:25,852
really trying to, uh, bolster this year, which is just

550
02:48:26,993 --> 02:48:33,212
direct outreach and purchasing of local produce local food to

551
02:48:33,313 --> 02:48:37,052
farmers and producers who just don't have the time or

552
02:48:37,073 --> 02:48:42,792
the means or the knowledge to navigate an online, um,

553
02:48:43,233 --> 02:48:47,612
marketplace or inventory themselves. And it's been very successful this

554
02:48:47,652 --> 02:48:52,280
year so far. So this would mean that, you know,

555
02:48:52,321 --> 02:48:56,220
for example, our neighbour, Tommy Evans, who some of us

556
02:48:56,260 --> 02:48:59,340
are probably familiar with. If he's going to grow, you

557
02:48:59,340 --> 02:49:02,700
know, 30 acres of corn, uh, cow up would be

558
02:49:02,740 --> 02:49:06,283
there for him to help move all that corn. And,

559
02:49:06,283 --> 02:49:13,224
uh, that guy knows how to grow corn. Municipal support.

560
02:49:14,785 --> 02:49:18,444
Will help CowP continue building momentum and scale regional impact.

561
02:49:22,006 --> 02:49:27,905
In 2026, uh, we are seeking support toward producer onboarding.

562
02:49:27,905 --> 02:49:32,145
So finding new farmers, new producers that we can help,

563
02:49:32,145 --> 02:49:37,665
uh, distribute and purchase, uh, produce their products, what they're

564
02:49:37,705 --> 02:49:43,050
growing. Uh, continued customer reactivation to remind people in the

565
02:49:43,311 --> 02:49:46,170
Cowwich and Valley region that we exist. We are available

566
02:49:47,071 --> 02:49:50,890
and we have the capacity and availability to deliver fresh

567
02:49:51,711 --> 02:49:56,187
locally grown food to them every week. We're seeking support

568
02:49:56,608 --> 02:50:00,827
to expand our cow op sourced program. Uh, expand our

569
02:50:00,928 --> 02:50:06,507
regional food distribution and logistics. Um, expanding our ability to

570
02:50:07,248 --> 02:50:12,747
support farmers and producers with marketing content, photography, uh, and

571
02:50:12,747 --> 02:50:17,446
producer promotion. And, uh, just general marketplace growth and customer

572
02:50:17,547 --> 02:50:21,766
acquisition. There's a lot of, uh, people in the Cowwich

573
02:50:21,806 --> 02:50:25,366
and Valley who I'm always surprised are not aware of

574
02:50:25,707 --> 02:50:31,606
CoWP. And I love talking about it. Um, quick kind

575
02:50:31,606 --> 02:50:37,686
of overview of financial challenges. So since 2024, we have

576
02:50:37,707 --> 02:50:42,646
seen a 30 percent decrease in sales, which we've bolstered

577
02:50:42,686 --> 02:51:00,006
with.

578
02:51:00,006 --> 02:51:05,826
We've also seen a 14, 000 dollar average loss, but

579
02:51:05,826 --> 02:51:12,006
we've, we've been seeing increase in net profit. Um, since

580
02:51:12,107 --> 02:51:18,834
2024. Uh, this year, co - ops working to raise

581
02:51:19,015 --> 02:51:23,234
20, 000, 20, 000 dollars to support this next phase

582
02:51:23,255 --> 02:51:30,621
of regional, uh, growth in our food system. Any investment

583
02:51:30,722 --> 02:51:34,541
is vital to local farmers, um, giving them access to

584
02:51:34,562 --> 02:51:39,584
direct markets for their products. Um, investments don't just support

585
02:51:39,845 --> 02:51:43,744
farmers. They strengthen our local food system. And by choosing

586
02:51:43,925 --> 02:51:48,240
local, we ensure more dollars stay within our community. Supporting

587
02:51:48,261 --> 02:51:52,320
small skill farmers and producers and fortifying supply chains contributes

588
02:51:52,320 --> 02:51:57,600
to food resilience and reduces reliance on distant food sources,

589
02:51:57,600 --> 02:52:06,698
especially during crisis, both local and abroad. We believe in

590
02:52:06,719 --> 02:52:14,588
building a stronger local food future together. We see farmers

591
02:52:14,628 --> 02:52:17,144
stepping up. We're just at time to lost counts of

592
02:52:17,184 --> 02:52:21,495
the week, extend another minute. Is that okay? Yeah. You

593
02:52:21,535 --> 02:52:23,175
just wrap up in the next minute. Oh my God.

594
02:52:23,175 --> 02:52:24,855
I'm on the second last slide. Thank you so much.

595
02:52:29,528 --> 02:52:33,099
Sorry, I skipped ahead. Um, just the last part is

596
02:52:33,280 --> 02:52:36,299
to say that, uh, farmers are stepping up. Our producers

597
02:52:36,400 --> 02:52:39,739
are stepping up. Customers are returning. The board is stepping

598
02:52:39,739 --> 02:52:43,019
up and we, we really feel the momentum. And we're

599
02:52:43,059 --> 02:52:46,779
asking local municipalities to partner with us to support cow

600
02:52:46,779 --> 02:52:50,859
up as a shared regional food infrastructure. That strengthens local

601
02:52:51,040 --> 02:52:54,219
farms food security and community resilience. Thank you so much.

602
02:52:55,040 --> 02:52:59,339
Great. Thank you. I'll turn to Council any questions or

603
02:52:59,339 --> 02:53:04,757
comments. Council justice. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And thank you

604
02:53:04,797 --> 02:53:08,873
for your presentation. Um, as you probably know, we're in

605
02:53:08,873 --> 02:53:12,473
the midst of North Cowching of developing an agriculture and

606
02:53:12,473 --> 02:53:16,233
food security strategic plan with the assistance of our agriculture

607
02:53:17,134 --> 02:53:20,073
and advisory committee. Two of whom happened to be here

608
02:53:20,113 --> 02:53:24,473
in the audience. Mr. Derek Maslink and Mr. Don Allelingham.

609
02:53:26,203 --> 02:53:28,662
But anyways, part of that processors will be a community

610
02:53:28,923 --> 02:53:35,142
engagement starting in the fall after the elections. Um, I

611
02:53:35,323 --> 02:53:39,382
would hope and encourage your organisation to fully participate in

612
02:53:39,403 --> 02:53:43,942
that engagement and to contribute your knowledge and perspective to

613
02:53:43,982 --> 02:53:49,382
the development of the plan. Also, the committee meets four

614
02:53:49,403 --> 02:53:50,982
times a year. I think the next one will be

615
02:53:51,403 --> 02:53:55,462
in November and I would suggest that you maybe consider

616
02:53:56,363 --> 02:53:59,942
attending those meetings as an observer just to get a

617
02:53:59,963 --> 02:54:04,102
perspective on, on what's going on. Absolutely. Thank you. That's,

618
02:54:04,142 --> 02:54:10,659
that's fantastic. Councillor Stache. Thank you Mayor. Thanks for the

619
02:54:10,699 --> 02:54:14,499
presentation, John Lauren. Uh, just trying to remember from our,

620
02:54:14,499 --> 02:54:18,099
uh, tours we've had with the support we've done for

621
02:54:18,120 --> 02:54:20,899
Couch and Green Community. Just one other saying that there's

622
02:54:21,160 --> 02:54:24,819
some partnerships working there for our, our support of Couch

623
02:54:24,819 --> 02:54:29,767
and Green Community. Is it supporting COP. No. So, uh,

624
02:54:30,128 --> 02:54:34,267
the Cow - up was born out of Couching Green

625
02:54:34,307 --> 02:54:38,827
Communities back in 2015. But since then, they've become two

626
02:54:38,827 --> 02:54:45,116
completely separate organisations. We do hope to one day move

627
02:54:45,297 --> 02:54:50,351
into the space that they're working to develop. But we're

628
02:54:50,391 --> 02:54:53,435
just not sure of the future of that. Um, we

629
02:54:53,435 --> 02:54:57,675
also are collaborating on using the, uh, CGC van for

630
02:54:57,856 --> 02:55:01,995
deliveries every Thursday because they've got a van that's able

631
02:55:02,035 --> 02:55:05,675
to cool produce as we're delivering it. So there's lots

632
02:55:05,715 --> 02:55:10,395
of collaborations between the two. But as of now, we're,

633
02:55:10,435 --> 02:55:14,290
we're two separate organisations. Okay. Thanks for that. The reason

634
02:55:14,290 --> 02:55:16,770
I ask, and it's, it's great seeing that after you

635
02:55:17,351 --> 02:55:20,770
is Cowwich and Valley Basket Society, because they had a

636
02:55:20,810 --> 02:55:24,130
letter or a previous council meeting. And I asked what

637
02:55:24,151 --> 02:55:27,170
synergies are there. Like they're expanding their facility while we

638
02:55:27,170 --> 02:55:30,130
just supported a Coyote and Green Community expand their facility.

639
02:55:30,130 --> 02:55:31,890
And now the co - op is asking for help

640
02:55:32,551 --> 02:55:35,010
and it's be great to help everybody. Is there some

641
02:55:35,010 --> 02:55:38,690
way we can collectively bring everybody together? That's maybe a

642
02:55:38,711 --> 02:55:41,570
pie in the sky discussion, but that's kind of where

643
02:55:41,610 --> 02:55:44,290
I was thinking as you were presenting. And I've gone

644
02:55:44,290 --> 02:55:47,250
through the website previously on the CVRD. I've gotten the

645
02:55:47,250 --> 02:55:49,730
book and everything. And it's pretty amazing. It's not just

646
02:55:49,831 --> 02:55:52,850
food on there. So well done to everybody involved. Yeah.

647
02:55:52,850 --> 02:55:56,770
Thank you so much. I fully agree with you. There's,

648
02:55:56,770 --> 02:55:59,890
there's a lot of people that understand the nuance of

649
02:55:59,911 --> 02:56:05,170
the two organisations more than I do. But I fully

650
02:56:05,210 --> 02:56:08,770
agree. There needs to be more synergy between these organisations

651
02:56:09,591 --> 02:56:15,710
because we're so much stronger together than separately. Council Manass.

652
02:56:17,663 --> 02:56:20,122
Thank you, Ms. Mayor. Thank you for your presentation. Um.

653
02:56:21,138 --> 02:56:23,597
As I see a you're a broker between the farmer

654
02:56:23,597 --> 02:56:26,877
and the end user. That's right. That's right. Yeah. We

655
02:56:26,917 --> 02:56:31,657
have a market manager. Zach, he does all the, uh,

656
02:56:31,858 --> 02:56:35,037
he receives all the deliveries that farmers come to drop

657
02:56:35,077 --> 02:56:38,957
off at our head office at Providence Valley Farm every

658
02:56:38,997 --> 02:56:42,637
Wednesday. And he coordinates the deliveries. So what is your

659
02:56:42,658 --> 02:56:48,717
markup in order to operate your organisation? Yeah. So, so

660
02:56:48,818 --> 02:56:56,084
for local farms, it's as low as 15 percent. That's

661
02:56:56,124 --> 02:56:59,284
local food. That is produced within the Cowwich and Valley

662
02:56:59,865 --> 02:57:03,444
is our lowest markup. Um, and then as we kind

663
02:57:03,444 --> 02:57:06,964
of move outside, we have some products that we feature

664
02:57:06,985 --> 02:57:08,884
on cow - up that are outside of the Cow

665
02:57:08,884 --> 02:57:11,604
- and - Valley region. Um, the markup could be

666
02:57:11,625 --> 02:57:21,124
as high as 25 percent. Um, have different parameters

667
02:57:22,425 --> 02:57:25,524
as high up as 32 percent But we try to

668
02:57:25,524 --> 02:57:29,124
keep the margins as low as possible Uh, and the

669
02:57:29,164 --> 02:57:34,004
margins are really just there to maintain the operational costs

670
02:57:34,004 --> 02:57:40,484
of the cooperative. What are your rich margins 32 percent.

671
02:57:42,822 --> 02:57:50,918
Yeah. Thank you both for the the presentation. Z pointed

672
02:57:50,918 --> 02:57:52,658
out You've got a lot of farmers here in the

673
02:57:52,658 --> 02:57:57,478
couch and region who depend on this service and is

674
02:57:57,478 --> 02:57:59,718
clearly a lot of potential to grow is more and

675
02:57:59,739 --> 02:58:03,478
more folks doing their shopping online Um, we do I

676
02:58:03,518 --> 02:58:06,518
met with miss Bosch earlier this year and did mention

677
02:58:06,558 --> 02:58:09,558
we have a grant and aid program that we award

678
02:58:09,979 --> 02:58:13,158
grants to different community organisations every year They're modest amounts

679
02:58:13,158 --> 02:58:15,638
of funding, but, um, would encourage you to apply for

680
02:58:15,678 --> 02:58:18,358
that So that this counts or that the next Council

681
02:58:18,358 --> 02:58:19,638
is going to have a close look at it We

682
02:58:19,819 --> 02:58:24,518
have in the past supported different agriculture focused initiatives Um,

683
02:58:25,019 --> 02:58:28,358
as councillor justice noted he chairs the agricultural advisor Committee

684
02:58:28,379 --> 02:58:30,438
and it'd be great to see you deliver the same

685
02:58:30,779 --> 02:58:33,958
presentation of those folks most of whom are local farmers

686
02:58:34,139 --> 02:58:35,958
and are going to be playing a big role in

687
02:58:35,958 --> 02:58:38,998
the development of our new strategic Uh, cultural and food

688
02:58:39,099 --> 02:58:41,478
security plan So I'm going to turn to our corporate

689
02:58:41,518 --> 02:58:43,558
officer and just ask what is the best way to

690
02:58:44,059 --> 02:58:46,438
make sure that the team from CoWP here gets to

691
02:58:46,438 --> 02:58:48,518
present to that committee Would that be referral from Council.

692
02:58:51,102 --> 02:58:54,361
Um, we can just reach I mean I have your

693
02:58:54,361 --> 02:58:57,881
contact information We can just coordinate that if that's Council's

694
02:58:57,921 --> 02:59:04,078
wish. Alright CNeding. All right. Thank Council Rustache Just real

695
02:59:04,118 --> 02:59:06,398
quick mayor of staff could just being that the opportunity

696
02:59:06,499 --> 02:59:09,678
there you said When's the submissions for grant nades start.

697
02:59:10,599 --> 02:59:12,658
Because it's in the fall typically Yeah, I think October

698
02:59:12,919 --> 02:59:18,090
15th, but we can confirm that. Yeah I believe it's

699
02:59:18,090 --> 02:59:21,050
October 15th I believe I sent Ms. Bosch the link

700
02:59:21,090 --> 02:59:23,964
for it So they're going to have the information. Alright,

701
02:59:23,964 --> 02:59:26,604
great Well, thanks again Thank you so much for the

702
02:59:26,625 --> 02:59:29,004
time to let us talk to you guys about Cow

703
02:59:29,025 --> 02:59:34,000
- up. I appreciate it. Alright, we're now going to

704
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:37,000
move on to our next Delegation from the Couch and

705
02:59:37,040 --> 02:59:40,360
Valley Basket Society I'd like to welcome up Henry Wickrink

706
02:59:40,541 --> 02:59:49,579
and Alan Brakefield to the podium. Mayor Douglas and Councillor

707
02:59:49,579 --> 02:59:53,120
Malenbreakfield on the board chair at the Basket Society. Thank

708
02:59:53,160 --> 02:59:55,680
you for receiving our letter last month and your many

709
02:59:55,701 --> 02:59:58,480
kind words that you said during the Council meeting It

710
02:59:58,520 --> 03:00:02,160
was really a positive experience And thank you for this

711
03:00:02,200 --> 03:00:06,000
time that you've given us to talk about a practical

712
03:00:06,101 --> 03:00:09,200
investment in food security that will serve our community with

713
03:00:09,301 --> 03:00:12,640
greater Uh, greater dignity and capacity both today and well

714
03:00:12,640 --> 03:00:15,099
into the future. Um, you can see up on the

715
03:00:15,139 --> 03:00:20,766
screen a picture of our proposed building. Um. The next

716
03:00:20,806 --> 03:00:30,685
slide. Went past.

717
03:00:32,141 --> 03:00:35,983
Okay, there we go. Alright. We began as a small

718
03:00:36,004 --> 03:00:39,183
volunteer driven community initiative and the late 80s and became

719
03:00:39,284 --> 03:00:42,603
a non - profit society in 1997. Over the years

720
03:00:42,704 --> 03:00:45,803
we've grown into the one of valleys Ki food security

721
03:00:45,824 --> 03:00:49,483
organisation And we continue to adapt as a knees arise.

722
03:00:49,917 --> 03:00:54,216
This is only possible because of our community our volunteers,

723
03:00:54,216 --> 03:00:57,416
our staff, our donors, our grocery stores, farms and many

724
03:00:57,437 --> 03:01:00,834
community partners who've stepped up over the years. We started

725
03:01:00,855 --> 03:01:04,114
on Evan Street, moved to Garden Street in later purchased

726
03:01:04,154 --> 03:01:07,413
that property. Uh, and then acquired the building next door

727
03:01:07,434 --> 03:01:09,413
so we now have two properties that we've joined into

728
03:01:09,514 --> 03:01:13,110
one on garden street. Two years ago the board announced

729
03:01:13,211 --> 03:01:16,710
a multi - phase Uh, redevelopment of the site Phase

730
03:01:16,750 --> 03:01:19,743
one was completed last year. Where we connected the two

731
03:01:19,783 --> 03:01:23,183
buildings together creating new lobby and bringing all of our

732
03:01:23,183 --> 03:01:26,276
services onto the main level. Now we're moving on to

733
03:01:26,537 --> 03:01:29,556
phase two A new food sorting in storage facility with

734
03:01:29,737 --> 03:01:35,145
construction Hopefully beginning next year. Our approach is simple at

735
03:01:35,326 --> 03:01:39,144
Country Valley Basket Society, people come first. Our hope is

736
03:01:39,144 --> 03:01:41,864
that every person coming through our doors will feel welcomed

737
03:01:41,864 --> 03:01:44,904
as they be treated with dignity and respect Our goal

738
03:01:44,944 --> 03:01:47,944
is to provide a safe non - judgmental Environment for

739
03:01:47,984 --> 03:01:51,704
both our guest involunteers We do more than handout food

740
03:01:51,744 --> 03:01:56,344
hampers serve hot lunches and daily meals We've created a

741
03:01:56,384 --> 03:01:59,784
place to be where people can find comfort Connection and

742
03:01:59,784 --> 03:02:03,704
care Every month we recover thousands of pounds of food

743
03:02:04,365 --> 03:02:08,024
That's... that might otherwise have become waste partnering with local

744
03:02:08,285 --> 03:02:10,824
grocery stores farms and donors But doing all of that

745
03:02:11,005 --> 03:02:14,053
requires space. And that's why we're here tonight So I'm

746
03:02:14,053 --> 03:02:16,213
going to turn it over to Henry Uh... And he'll

747
03:02:16,234 --> 03:02:20,916
give you some more details about what we're doing. Thank

748
03:02:20,916 --> 03:02:23,693
you for allowing us to come here tonight. The next

749
03:02:23,693 --> 03:02:26,733
slide here really shows you some of the things that

750
03:02:26,773 --> 03:02:28,573
have been happening in the last number of years I

751
03:02:28,573 --> 03:02:31,373
mean across the country we've hear the increase in food

752
03:02:31,413 --> 03:02:34,333
insecurity, the number of families that are struggling And we're

753
03:02:34,333 --> 03:02:36,093
no different here in the College of Valley You can

754
03:02:36,133 --> 03:02:40,573
see in 2023 or 2700, 19 families who served out

755
03:02:40,573 --> 03:02:43,613
of the Food Ampers were distributed during that 12 -

756
03:02:43,613 --> 03:02:46,393
month period from September 1st October 31st And you can

757
03:02:46,393 --> 03:02:48,913
see the growth on that to this year, at the

758
03:02:48,913 --> 03:02:52,952
end of this month of predicting Closed in 880. 800

759
03:02:52,973 --> 03:02:56,232
hampers Which at the rate it is that's probably going

760
03:02:56,232 --> 03:02:57,192
to be about where we're going to end up at

761
03:02:57,232 --> 03:03:00,872
the end of this month That is significant year over

762
03:03:00,912 --> 03:03:03,432
year, like over last year we're seeing 20 percent growth

763
03:03:03,693 --> 03:03:06,552
And every month it's been that again Um... You know

764
03:03:06,552 --> 03:03:08,952
over year over year Last month was a record month

765
03:03:08,952 --> 03:03:12,952
for us Writing that range 787 hampers were given out

766
03:03:12,992 --> 03:03:17,272
to Community representing 1, 600 in the vigils in that

767
03:03:17,272 --> 03:03:26,571
particular month We're proceeding, giving families of 18. Which is

768
03:03:26,571 --> 03:03:29,351
significant some for us to remember is that, you know

769
03:03:29,351 --> 03:03:34,971
It's not only Middle - age, it's all ages of

770
03:03:34,992 --> 03:03:39,131
55 that are struggling We're seeing in continuing increase in

771
03:03:39,131 --> 03:03:42,491
that Continuing increase in families And then the other side

772
03:03:42,531 --> 03:03:46,651
of our organisation, and part of our plan with the

773
03:03:46,691 --> 03:03:50,491
redevelopment phase one was to divide the programs that we

774
03:03:50,491 --> 03:03:52,971
do We have our lunch kitchen over on the north

775
03:03:52,971 --> 03:03:55,371
side of the building with our hamper program On the

776
03:03:55,632 --> 03:03:58,251
south side, in order to make it much more comfortable

777
03:03:58,512 --> 03:04:00,651
for families Because over time that was one of the

778
03:04:00,651 --> 03:04:03,451
things that I noticed when I got there is The

779
03:04:03,491 --> 03:04:10,171
uncomfortness of a family coming in as... See other segments

780
03:04:10,211 --> 03:04:11,691
of the people that we deal with, on house that

781
03:04:11,691 --> 03:04:14,251
we help out in the other people that are You

782
03:04:14,251 --> 03:04:18,231
know struggling in their living conditions And so that's, you

783
03:04:18,231 --> 03:04:20,731
know, has made the plan of what we are artist

784
03:04:20,752 --> 03:04:24,971
As we look to the future 218 lunches on averages

785
03:04:25,011 --> 03:04:29,211
served each day Which means just over 5, 000 bunches

786
03:04:29,552 --> 03:04:31,931
a month or giving out the community And that's based

787
03:04:31,971 --> 03:04:34,971
on food recovery We could only do that Because of

788
03:04:35,011 --> 03:04:39,971
the food recover we do Basically Every meal, most of

789
03:04:39,971 --> 03:04:41,771
the food in every meal is done because we pick

790
03:04:41,771 --> 03:04:45,051
up food from grocery stores Donated to us in order

791
03:04:45,051 --> 03:04:48,502
to do that. And so just the man continues to

792
03:04:48,542 --> 03:04:52,804
grow. Just some real stats that indicate that. We value

793
03:04:54,025 --> 03:04:59,660
where a software works, oh Back one slide. Or if

794
03:04:59,660 --> 03:05:01,980
we do full choice hamper shopping And with that we're

795
03:05:01,980 --> 03:05:04,940
able to actually value each amper as they go Because

796
03:05:04,940 --> 03:05:08,700
we do a generic pricing on the pricing that we

797
03:05:08,740 --> 03:05:12,380
get We will figure at least the stuff that we

798
03:05:12,401 --> 03:05:15,340
can measure about 120, 000 dollars is giving out in

799
03:05:15,340 --> 03:05:19,260
food to families in the Valley every month And at

800
03:05:19,260 --> 03:05:21,500
20 doors a meal, we give about another 100, 000

801
03:05:21,540 --> 03:05:26,065
dollars in our lunch program. We a year ago County

802
03:05:26,065 --> 03:05:28,785
Green Community decided we were no longer doing food security

803
03:05:28,825 --> 03:05:31,585
We were kind of sharing that before We were probably

804
03:05:31,585 --> 03:05:35,206
doing the larger amount of food recovery. Our growth has

805
03:05:35,206 --> 03:05:37,446
seen 5, 300 pounds a month We're picking up from

806
03:05:37,467 --> 03:05:41,046
local grocers given to Community And our wastage on that

807
03:05:41,307 --> 03:05:43,526
is less than 10 percent So tamper Cent And that's

808
03:05:43,526 --> 03:05:46,726
not even wasted, that's going to farmers And so it's

809
03:05:46,726 --> 03:05:51,122
significant among what's happening there. So an amount of food

810
03:05:51,162 --> 03:05:53,442
that we give out to communities well over 2. 6

811
03:05:53,482 --> 03:05:56,802
million dollars And the space we have, it's just limited.

812
03:05:57,063 --> 03:05:58,722
As many of you have been our site over time

813
03:05:58,983 --> 03:06:02,322
You've seen the containers that we work out of, which

814
03:06:02,343 --> 03:06:03,762
we really want to clean this side up and get

815
03:06:03,802 --> 03:06:05,602
rid of, and that's part of this plan To have

816
03:06:05,642 --> 03:06:09,810
one building. On the sell side of our property, and

817
03:06:10,011 --> 03:06:12,150
this apply on here with the blue area at the

818
03:06:12,190 --> 03:06:14,230
back is really where that new building's going to be

819
03:06:14,331 --> 03:06:17,590
We're going to move all our hamper program into there

820
03:06:17,691 --> 03:06:19,590
Our goal is to do self - shopping so that

821
03:06:20,091 --> 03:06:23,510
Uh... Family can come in and actually walk the shelves

822
03:06:23,531 --> 03:06:27,430
and pick whether they want corn flakes or special Know

823
03:06:27,470 --> 03:06:31,270
They get to choose healthy cereal, but we decide what

824
03:06:31,371 --> 03:06:33,670
variety it is Our ultimate goal is that they can

825
03:06:33,670 --> 03:06:36,230
go to the shelves and pick up what they want

826
03:06:36,891 --> 03:06:40,390
Chicken Doodle soup, and we have it there They can

827
03:06:40,430 --> 03:06:44,230
pick those things And that's really our 4900 square foot

828
03:06:44,331 --> 03:06:49,750
building Um, two floors, 3100 on the bottom And really

829
03:06:49,771 --> 03:06:52,630
the rest of it's warehousing space So that as food

830
03:06:52,670 --> 03:06:57,190
recovery comes in We can do better sorting and process

831
03:06:57,371 --> 03:06:59,030
it so that it can go back either into our

832
03:06:59,051 --> 03:07:02,230
programs, whether we're doing it Lane Pampers, or we're giving

833
03:07:02,270 --> 03:07:05,270
it away to grocery store, or pardon me in our

834
03:07:05,291 --> 03:07:07,990
kitchen So when anything comes in, we make first of

835
03:07:07,990 --> 03:07:11,350
all decide You know how much life is it going?

836
03:07:11,350 --> 03:07:12,550
It's very little life in it We go to our

837
03:07:12,590 --> 03:07:15,190
kitchen If it's got lots of life in it goes

838
03:07:15,771 --> 03:07:19,430
to either our hamper program or to other community organisations

839
03:07:19,470 --> 03:07:24,622
that were supporting Um... All around the Valley. What The

840
03:07:24,723 --> 03:07:27,902
Community Benefits that we have, you mean it's really the

841
03:07:27,902 --> 03:07:34,922
building, we're looking at. It's really just an increased capacity

842
03:07:35,343 --> 03:07:39,322
so that we see Like they're touching, you know Mike

843
03:07:39,823 --> 03:07:43,642
Sorry I think somebody needs to hit Mute's invasion of

844
03:07:43,682 --> 03:07:50,865
privacy. So anyo, we want to increase our capacity on

845
03:07:50,905 --> 03:07:53,425
site So that right, you know We were doing some

846
03:07:53,425 --> 03:07:55,585
of our sorting in the basement of the one Building,

847
03:07:55,585 --> 03:07:57,165
we really want to have a space Where we can

848
03:07:57,165 --> 03:07:59,825
use the staff and volunteers that we have to do

849
03:07:59,865 --> 03:08:02,545
that We have a staff of 16 that's supporting over

850
03:08:02,726 --> 03:08:06,065
100 volunteers a month Helping to give food and community

851
03:08:06,566 --> 03:08:09,585
in there And we want to, you know with that

852
03:08:09,585 --> 03:08:12,385
increased space We'll be able to ask stuff becomes available

853
03:08:12,486 --> 03:08:14,785
Because we really don't want to say no to any

854
03:08:14,806 --> 03:08:18,225
donations that come along I mean if, you know The

855
03:08:18,225 --> 03:08:21,025
farmers that co - op have extra food that they

856
03:08:21,065 --> 03:08:22,865
are saying they can't sell We would like to be

857
03:08:22,865 --> 03:08:25,505
able to take it and be able to either process

858
03:08:25,686 --> 03:08:28,705
it into something or give it to somebody else So

859
03:08:28,745 --> 03:08:33,194
that it's helping people who are experiencing food security. In

860
03:08:33,194 --> 03:08:38,474
the last year 3600 individuals family units came and visited

861
03:08:38,495 --> 03:08:41,834
the food bank Um... You know Not everyone comes every

862
03:08:41,834 --> 03:08:46,554
month, but there's 3600 individual families that, you know that

863
03:08:46,594 --> 03:08:48,954
have come to the food bank for different needs And

864
03:08:48,954 --> 03:08:52,714
so, and the other part of that is Preparedness, part

865
03:08:52,714 --> 03:08:56,634
of Funks BC as a member of that Infobanks Canada

866
03:08:56,655 --> 03:08:59,434
is we're also part of that Preparedness So if we

867
03:08:59,474 --> 03:09:02,794
had a Fire Lake in Somerlain recently With the food

868
03:09:02,834 --> 03:09:05,034
Bwink, we can go for call to Food Banks BC,

869
03:09:05,034 --> 03:09:06,554
and they would support us to be able to help

870
03:09:07,375 --> 03:09:09,434
You know with food recovery I mean when the Apartment

871
03:09:09,455 --> 03:09:12,954
Building, burnt down recently on Coronation Street, one of my

872
03:09:12,954 --> 03:09:14,954
first calls was the CBRD, and said, hey Those guys

873
03:09:14,994 --> 03:09:17,434
need any hampers, we'll help them out right away And

874
03:09:17,455 --> 03:09:21,686
that's what we do. Our finding, basically most of our

875
03:09:21,686 --> 03:09:27,126
finding comes from individual donations Um... Our budget, our operational

876
03:09:27,166 --> 03:09:30,646
budget, about 1. 1 million dollars Majority of that is

877
03:09:30,646 --> 03:09:34,006
coming from just straight donations from Community. Above that we

878
03:09:34,046 --> 03:09:35,846
do stuff the truck, and we give that back out

879
03:09:35,886 --> 03:09:41,202
to Community. Thank you. And so that... So, and then

880
03:09:41,242 --> 03:09:44,322
we get some grants, and we're applying to corporate And

881
03:09:44,322 --> 03:09:47,362
then, you know, with this building, we've raised about 600,

882
03:09:47,402 --> 03:09:50,242
000 dollars We figure our cost is gonna be about

883
03:09:50,743 --> 03:09:54,482
a 1. 2 million, and we're, you know, we're seeking

884
03:09:54,503 --> 03:09:57,262
support from North College and to help us, you know

885
03:09:58,023 --> 03:09:59,762
Waves, you know, help us with costs You know anything

886
03:09:59,762 --> 03:10:02,722
that they can... Mr. Red Time, but RECKINES EU VAD

887
03:10:02,722 --> 03:10:04,562
SIM IT issues, I'm wondering if we can extend another

888
03:10:04,743 --> 03:10:09,522
minute Yeah, thank you Really, it's, you know, we're coming,

889
03:10:09,522 --> 03:10:11,282
we're about a week or two away from applying for

890
03:10:11,322 --> 03:10:14,322
our development Permit, we've been working with architects, and all

891
03:10:14,343 --> 03:10:16,322
the specialists that we gotta have along the way to

892
03:10:16,362 --> 03:10:19,922
address all the different issues Phenomenal monocoste We got invested

893
03:10:19,962 --> 03:10:23,122
in this building Even before we apply And so we're

894
03:10:23,122 --> 03:10:25,042
about a week or two away from that application to

895
03:10:25,082 --> 03:10:28,482
give that started... And working with the staff to get

896
03:10:28,522 --> 03:10:31,042
that through, and that type of thing We have some

897
03:10:31,463 --> 03:10:36,482
grants that... If we're successful anime, is to have the

898
03:10:36,583 --> 03:10:38,562
building shovel ready is really what we want to do

899
03:10:38,823 --> 03:10:41,922
so that ASM money becomes available We can move ahead.

900
03:10:41,962 --> 03:10:45,362
The need is huge, we need... We really need the

901
03:10:45,362 --> 03:10:47,442
building to be able to serve the community I mean

902
03:10:47,863 --> 03:10:49,522
Some of the questions of how we work with other

903
03:10:49,623 --> 03:10:54,062
organisations Our organisation is really about... Giving food away, not

904
03:10:54,062 --> 03:10:56,322
a single item is soul And that's one of our

905
03:10:56,343 --> 03:10:59,362
things, is everything, that's how we do food recovery, it's

906
03:10:59,362 --> 03:11:02,002
how we... You know, we buy lots in the community

907
03:11:02,183 --> 03:11:05,522
of food to our budget for food purchases, it's over

908
03:11:05,562 --> 03:11:09,602
2, 000 dollars to supplement the Delegations It's a real

909
03:11:09,623 --> 03:11:12,322
change, and all the grocery stores are working with us

910
03:11:12,503 --> 03:11:14,402
and giving us good buys and that type of thing

911
03:11:14,823 --> 03:11:17,902
So I just thank you for the time here, and

912
03:11:18,663 --> 03:11:20,882
as North Cowgen, if they can help us move this

913
03:11:20,922 --> 03:11:24,482
process through the development, permitting, and building permanent when we

914
03:11:24,482 --> 03:11:27,576
get to that point. So. Great, thank you both for

915
03:11:27,576 --> 03:11:31,447
the presentation. Um... Yeah I think many of us have

916
03:11:31,948 --> 03:11:35,607
a certain... View of, you know, who uses the services

917
03:11:35,708 --> 03:11:40,087
of the basket Society, obviously many people experiencing homelessness are

918
03:11:40,188 --> 03:11:43,287
in a tough spot and rely on these services just

919
03:11:43,327 --> 03:11:46,147
to survive But as you've pointed on your presentation, and

920
03:11:46,147 --> 03:11:50,207
some of our previous discussions, high percentage your clients, or

921
03:11:50,207 --> 03:11:54,387
children in Youth, working families, seniors who have, you know,

922
03:11:54,387 --> 03:11:56,247
work hard on their lives, but just cannot get by

923
03:11:56,828 --> 03:11:59,207
with their pensions with the high cost of living So

924
03:11:59,247 --> 03:12:02,567
I think our whole Council Municipality is Grateful for this

925
03:12:02,668 --> 03:12:05,367
Critical Service to provide in our community, and if the

926
03:12:06,028 --> 03:12:08,967
week new to help Um, yeah We're gonna be there,

927
03:12:08,967 --> 03:12:12,007
and as you've discussed in our previous meetings, this new

928
03:12:12,108 --> 03:12:14,567
Federal Infrastructure Funding, and there is a stream under that

929
03:12:14,668 --> 03:12:17,607
that does target food security, and I'm hoping that might

930
03:12:17,647 --> 03:12:20,887
be the right for your organisation And based on the

931
03:12:20,908 --> 03:12:23,587
resolution we passed, one of our previous Council meetings, our

932
03:12:23,587 --> 03:12:26,647
staff are ready to support you, and identifying and applying

933
03:12:26,647 --> 03:12:29,287
for some of those grants Perfect, thank you. Council Man

934
03:12:29,468 --> 03:12:33,665
House. Thank you Mr. Mayor, and thank you Mr. Wayne

935
03:12:33,686 --> 03:12:37,704
Crank for that presentation. You should have mentioned the gala,

936
03:12:37,704 --> 03:12:39,944
you guys are coming up with, the fun base, right?

937
03:12:39,944 --> 03:12:41,944
I went to the original one when you guys had,

938
03:12:41,944 --> 03:12:44,024
that he didn't have one last year And I think

939
03:12:44,445 --> 03:12:46,664
a few dollars are raced, and I think we're played

940
03:12:46,704 --> 03:12:49,944
by another table with my group anyways For that, but

941
03:12:49,944 --> 03:12:51,704
you should mention the date And so, for the rest

942
03:12:51,704 --> 03:12:54,104
of Councilbert Tony 3rd, we have a gallet, the Vine

943
03:12:54,125 --> 03:12:58,024
and Cowgen Bay They graciously offered us their venue to

944
03:12:58,024 --> 03:13:00,267
serve there. And so I think 5 o'clock on the

945
03:13:00,288 --> 03:13:02,747
23rd to a couple hours, are they gonna have a

946
03:13:02,768 --> 03:13:06,267
gallo there? Just to continue to funds for the building,

947
03:13:06,267 --> 03:13:11,095
for operations, so. Thank you And also Just mentioned the

948
03:13:11,116 --> 03:13:13,895
relationship, we have with the Duncan Rotary We did a

949
03:13:13,895 --> 03:13:18,375
couple of... Um... Successful food drives for you, and the

950
03:13:18,375 --> 03:13:23,415
Community was awesome for that, and the rotary itself is

951
03:13:23,455 --> 03:13:26,935
phenomenal, the sport, that... That we gave to your organisation

952
03:13:28,076 --> 03:13:30,695
And we said book also, thank you Yeah, the community

953
03:13:30,876 --> 03:13:34,775
is awesome, amount of donations, and support that they have...

954
03:13:35,676 --> 03:13:41,415
6, 000 with rotary, so I appreciate it, everyone O'Council

955
03:13:41,516 --> 03:13:49,313
Finley. Thanks for Samair, thanks to the presentation gentleman I'm

956
03:13:49,353 --> 03:13:52,913
one of the people that is very supportive stuff the

957
03:13:52,913 --> 03:13:55,953
truck, I love buying pallets every single Christmas to support

958
03:13:57,414 --> 03:14:00,593
the Society, and I do challenge my fellow Councillors and

959
03:14:00,593 --> 03:14:03,873
directors in the Valley, and a few have always stepped

960
03:14:03,873 --> 03:14:06,193
up and accepted that Challenge Which is great, and I'm

961
03:14:06,193 --> 03:14:08,753
gonna do that again this year If I'm sitting at

962
03:14:08,753 --> 03:14:12,064
this table. But if I'm not, I'm still gonna challenge

963
03:14:12,104 --> 03:14:16,288
all the councillors anyway. The... When you said 20 percent

964
03:14:16,309 --> 03:14:18,448
growth, if I hear 20 percent growth in the private

965
03:14:18,469 --> 03:14:20,848
sector, I'm extremely happy, but in your case This is

966
03:14:20,869 --> 03:14:25,157
not good news And that's a horrible number. And I

967
03:14:25,157 --> 03:14:28,597
think here in this publicly for a lot of people

968
03:14:29,418 --> 03:14:32,197
is Hopefully that'll help more people step up and support

969
03:14:32,218 --> 03:14:36,389
you guys. So The one question I have is, are

970
03:14:36,389 --> 03:14:39,349
you able to accept donations from restaurants and pubs and

971
03:14:39,349 --> 03:14:41,469
coffee shops? Is that something you can do? Yes, we

972
03:14:41,469 --> 03:14:44,229
can, because they're running a food - safe kitchen, right?

973
03:14:44,650 --> 03:14:47,109
Longs It hasn't been served out into the dining area

974
03:14:47,610 --> 03:14:50,309
Um, we can accept them Because we know we're both

975
03:14:50,970 --> 03:14:53,269
registered as a food safe We have our safe kitchen

976
03:14:53,269 --> 03:14:55,029
and stuff like that Awesome, because I know some of

977
03:14:55,029 --> 03:14:57,669
us were pretty good at utilising every piece of food

978
03:14:57,709 --> 03:15:00,949
that we have coming through Our doors, but sometimes we

979
03:15:00,949 --> 03:15:03,349
can't utilise it So if we have an outlet to

980
03:15:03,610 --> 03:15:06,309
utilise it in the community Then that's something that I

981
03:15:06,309 --> 03:15:11,677
can support for sure Thanks. Any further discussion. Alright, well

982
03:15:11,677 --> 03:15:17,105
thank you both for the presentation. Thank you. Alright, we're

983
03:15:17,105 --> 03:15:19,425
now going to move on to Unfinished and post -

984
03:15:19,465 --> 03:15:22,205
bone business Uh, we have here item 9. 1, the

985
03:15:22,205 --> 03:15:25,345
Developer Donations, and Disclosure of Developer Meetings So since I

986
03:15:25,385 --> 03:15:29,828
introduced this last year. I kick off the... Discussion... As

987
03:15:29,868 --> 03:15:37,188
Council Recall is policy around... Uh, campaign contributions from developers,

988
03:15:37,188 --> 03:15:40,228
outline a process Where... Counts members who had received those

989
03:15:40,329 --> 03:15:45,508
donations would recuse themselves when a Development Application from one

990
03:15:45,508 --> 03:15:49,428
of those individuals was brought forward to this table for

991
03:15:49,609 --> 03:15:54,468
a decision And it also proposed that... Report on meetings

992
03:15:54,489 --> 03:16:00,548
with... Developers, lobbyists, and consultants regarding their applications Are we

993
03:16:00,588 --> 03:16:03,599
going to come before Council for Decision? Um... Before we

994
03:16:03,599 --> 03:16:05,599
get into a big debate on that, I just would...

995
03:16:06,020 --> 03:16:10,559
Highlight a couple points for Council One is Councillor Justice

996
03:16:10,599 --> 03:16:12,799
did reach out to me before this meeting, and has

997
03:16:12,820 --> 03:16:17,039
suggested an alternative motion for your consideration Which he's shared

998
03:16:17,039 --> 03:16:19,999
with the corporate officer, and I'll let him speak to

999
03:16:20,039 --> 03:16:23,359
it, but I understand his intent is to provide something

1000
03:16:23,540 --> 03:16:27,839
a bit more simple, straightforward, and... And looking at it

1001
03:16:27,879 --> 03:16:29,519
seems like something that we could maybe all get behind

1002
03:16:29,940 --> 03:16:33,039
Um, I'd much rather have a policy in place that

1003
03:16:33,039 --> 03:16:36,959
we can be united on rather than something that's going

1004
03:16:36,959 --> 03:16:39,519
to leave us divided Coming out of this meeting... But

1005
03:16:39,620 --> 03:16:42,639
before I turn to Councillor Justice, I would notice Well,

1006
03:16:42,639 --> 03:16:46,239
that... Councillor Calio is away for this meeting He did

1007
03:16:46,279 --> 03:16:49,919
have... Quite a bit of feedback when it was presented

1008
03:16:50,020 --> 03:16:53,839
last year, so I'm just gonna... I'll turn to Council

1009
03:16:53,879 --> 03:16:55,919
and ask Do we want to make a decision on

1010
03:16:56,180 --> 03:16:58,159
this now, or do we want to put the saw

1011
03:16:58,199 --> 03:17:01,599
for a couple weeks? And have Councillor Caleo here to

1012
03:17:01,639 --> 03:17:03,839
be part of that discussion Hey, we could just discuss

1013
03:17:03,879 --> 03:17:05,999
that real quick, and then I'll turn it over to

1014
03:17:06,180 --> 03:17:10,809
Councillor Justice Councillor Finley. Thanks, Ms. Mayor, I don't have

1015
03:17:10,849 --> 03:17:12,329
a problem with that I would have liked to have

1016
03:17:12,329 --> 03:17:14,329
seen the motion ahead of time Um... You know, we

1017
03:17:14,369 --> 03:17:15,769
had a meeting a few months ago where I presented

1018
03:17:16,190 --> 03:17:18,409
A motion that was kind of poo - pooed because

1019
03:17:18,670 --> 03:17:21,249
it got put on the table at the meeting, so

1020
03:17:21,249 --> 03:17:22,969
I'm a little upset that we haven't seen this ahead

1021
03:17:23,009 --> 03:17:25,689
of time, but... I wouldn't mind having a chance to

1022
03:17:25,729 --> 03:17:29,369
read it tonight But I think Councillor Calio's input would

1023
03:17:29,409 --> 03:17:33,795
be important. Alright, so do we... Yeah, do we want

1024
03:17:33,795 --> 03:17:36,035
to hear what Council Justice has suggested, or do we

1025
03:17:36,035 --> 03:17:38,035
just want to refer the straight? I mean, he could

1026
03:17:38,035 --> 03:17:40,755
read it out, to the next meeting? Because I don't

1027
03:17:40,755 --> 03:17:43,260
know, what does everyone else think? I'm seeing nodding. Listen

1028
03:17:43,281 --> 03:17:45,420
Yeah Alright So Council Jeff, did you just want to

1029
03:17:45,420 --> 03:17:47,820
read it out? Maybe I can briefly explain the rationalen

1030
03:17:48,081 --> 03:17:50,380
We could send this over to... Sure referred us to

1031
03:17:50,380 --> 03:17:52,620
the next meeting, and we'll have a full counsel to

1032
03:17:52,660 --> 03:17:55,340
make a decision on it Yeah, thank you Mr. Ray

1033
03:17:55,380 --> 03:17:59,178
I did actually send it to the corporate officer. So...

1034
03:17:59,178 --> 03:18:01,658
Do you want to put it up? And I'll show

1035
03:18:01,658 --> 03:18:02,698
how bad a reader I am.

1036
03:18:21,243 --> 03:18:24,502
So the motion would be that Council adopt the following

1037
03:18:24,683 --> 03:18:28,910
policy. Um... We're a Member of Council has received a

1038
03:18:28,950 --> 03:18:32,990
campaign Contribution Gift, or other financial support from A Person,

1039
03:18:32,990 --> 03:18:36,030
or entity with a direct financial interest in... A discretionary

1040
03:18:36,291 --> 03:18:40,510
land use application before Council. The Council Member will publicly

1041
03:18:40,531 --> 03:18:44,750
disclose the relationship... And will consider whether Recusil is necessary

1042
03:18:44,790 --> 03:18:49,488
to avoid a reasonable apprehension of BIOS. If the Councillor

1043
03:18:49,509 --> 03:18:53,408
participates, they will briefly explain why they believe Participation is

1044
03:18:53,669 --> 03:18:59,373
consistent with the public interest... And this policy. So that's

1045
03:19:00,434 --> 03:19:08,458
the suggested motion. And I would just say that...

1046
03:19:12,058 --> 03:19:15,797
Without defending it fully here, I would just say... The

1047
03:19:15,818 --> 03:19:20,659
idea of this is that it's a sort of. Compromise,

1048
03:19:20,659 --> 03:19:22,899
recognising some of the things that we've been thinking about

1049
03:19:23,400 --> 03:19:28,019
subsequent to when it was first... Proposed... And that I

1050
03:19:28,019 --> 03:19:32,019
think this will lead to... A greater public perception of

1051
03:19:32,019 --> 03:19:37,699
fairness... But it doesn't require mandatory Recusal, nor does it

1052
03:19:37,800 --> 03:19:41,699
single - out developers... Nor deal with meetings with developers.

1053
03:19:42,085 --> 03:19:46,922
So... I guess the bottom line is... I've been thinking

1054
03:19:46,922 --> 03:19:49,162
about... What I believe to be the key issue here

1055
03:19:49,183 --> 03:19:53,402
Which is maintaining the public trust, and I would suggest

1056
03:19:53,983 --> 03:19:59,722
or believe that this motion could achieve that without... Without

1057
03:19:59,722 --> 03:20:02,922
doing some of the things that were objected to last

1058
03:20:02,962 --> 03:20:05,405
time. But I won't go any further if we're gonna

1059
03:20:05,506 --> 03:20:07,085
postpone - Thanks for that. I'm just gonna turn the

1060
03:20:07,125 --> 03:20:10,925
corporate officer and ask if we wanted to refer the

1061
03:20:10,946 --> 03:20:12,205
site - in - for - discussion at the September

1062
03:20:12,546 --> 03:20:15,207
2nd meeting when we've got a full council here. Should

1063
03:20:15,207 --> 03:20:18,487
we re - referring item 9. 1? Or does it

1064
03:20:18,527 --> 03:20:22,487
make more sense to move in Second Council Justice's alternative,

1065
03:20:22,527 --> 03:20:28,667
refer that? Or does it matter? Whatever... Whatever Council desires

1066
03:20:28,768 --> 03:20:32,979
to move... Whatever you want to bring forward. I mean

1067
03:20:33,019 --> 03:20:36,099
I think Refer 9. 1 is the cleanest. I know,

1068
03:20:36,099 --> 03:20:39,379
does that... Yeah, and I'm... Yeah, then it councils got

1069
03:20:39,800 --> 03:20:41,379
a heads up beforehand's, you got time to think about

1070
03:20:41,419 --> 03:20:45,859
it Councillor Sash. And how would you add that as

1071
03:20:45,859 --> 03:20:49,139
an attachment then? Can that be additive... That's what I'm

1072
03:20:49,179 --> 03:20:54,179
thinking now. So, I think that because they're both in

1073
03:20:54,219 --> 03:20:56,179
front of Council, now that they should both be brought

1074
03:20:56,219 --> 03:20:58,659
forward, and that you decide which one you want to

1075
03:20:58,699 --> 03:21:01,771
go with, or something different, right? Does that work for

1076
03:21:01,811 --> 03:21:04,058
everyone? Yeah. Is someone I want to move the referral

1077
03:21:04,079 --> 03:21:07,178
motion then? Move by Councillor Hogg, second to buy Councillor

1078
03:21:07,218 --> 03:21:09,338
Staff, so referring it to the September's Second meeting for

1079
03:21:09,359 --> 03:21:12,218
discussion. We've got a full Council there. I'll call the

1080
03:21:12,239 --> 03:21:15,677
Question All In Favor. An opposed, not opposed motion carries.

1081
03:21:17,745 --> 03:21:20,604
Alright, we're now going to move on to ByLAws. I'll

1082
03:21:20,604 --> 03:21:30,216
turn to the corporate officer. Okay, thank you

1083
03:21:30,317 --> 03:21:34,136
Mayor. So, item 10. 1 Council and Committee Procedure Amendment

1084
03:21:34,317 --> 03:21:39,416
bylaw 4065 is before Council for Adoption. Once adopted, several

1085
03:21:39,677 --> 03:21:43,736
procedural administrative, and housekeeping updates will be incorporated into Council's

1086
03:21:43,837 --> 03:21:47,849
meeting procedures. Notice was given in accordance with Section 124

1087
03:21:47,889 --> 03:21:51,449
of the Community Charter and posted to North Cowching's Public

1088
03:21:51,470 --> 03:21:55,049
Notice Board and website on the 27th of July. Uh...

1089
03:21:55,089 --> 03:21:59,689
It was posted to social media, on July the 28th,

1090
03:21:59,689 --> 03:22:01,849
and the Cow - and - Valley Citizen On August

1091
03:22:02,030 --> 03:22:06,729
5th, and the Shimane's Courier on August 6th. Legislative Services

1092
03:22:06,910 --> 03:22:12,809
has not received any correspondence at all on this bylaws.

1093
03:22:12,809 --> 03:22:16,329
So, Council is free to adopt Council and Committee Procedures

1094
03:22:16,350 --> 03:22:19,929
Amendment, bylaw number 4065 - 2026. Alright, with some like

1095
03:22:19,950 --> 03:22:22,409
- moved recommendation. We've got Councilman Ass. Second by Councillor

1096
03:22:22,449 --> 03:22:24,569
Estash, new discussion. I'll call the question all a favor.

1097
03:22:25,545 --> 03:22:29,631
And opposed, and opposed motion carries, item 10. 2. Zoning

1098
03:22:29,631 --> 03:22:34,511
Amendment Bylaw 4070, 2026 is before Council for Adoption, once

1099
03:22:34,551 --> 03:22:38,751
adopted 82. 91 Bonsawl Road will be rezoned from commercial

1100
03:22:39,012 --> 03:22:42,991
Recreational Zone to Rural Zone to facilitate a single -

1101
03:22:42,991 --> 03:22:45,631
family dwelling, and a detached Second Dwelling with a maximum

1102
03:22:45,972 --> 03:22:49,231
floor area of 90 square metres. All the pre -

1103
03:22:49,231 --> 03:22:52,351
adoption conditions have been satisfied, so Council may proceed with

1104
03:22:52,692 --> 03:22:57,231
adoption today. The recommendation is that Council adopts Zoning Amendment

1105
03:22:57,252 --> 03:23:00,407
by Law 4070 - 2026. Some of the moved the

1106
03:23:00,407 --> 03:23:04,807
recommendation, but by Councillor Finley, seconded by Council or Manass,

1107
03:23:04,807 --> 03:23:08,245
any discussion. All the question, all of a favor. And

1108
03:23:08,245 --> 03:23:10,485
a pose, non - opposed motion carries, item 10. 3.

1109
03:23:11,459 --> 03:23:15,878
Zoning Amendment bylaw 4071 is before Council for Adoption. If

1110
03:23:15,878 --> 03:23:20,218
adopted, the Adelaide Street Comprehensive Zone will be established. The

1111
03:23:20,218 --> 03:23:23,518
Bylaw received three readings on June 17th, and the required

1112
03:23:23,779 --> 03:23:28,796
Covenant was subsequently registered on July the 20th. All pre

1113
03:23:28,796 --> 03:23:31,676
- adoption conditions have been satisfied, so Council may now

1114
03:23:31,697 --> 03:23:35,996
proceed with adoption. The recommendation is that Council adopts zoning

1115
03:23:36,017 --> 03:23:41,061
amendment, bylaw number 4071 - 2026. Alright, with someone like

1116
03:23:41,061 --> 03:23:44,101
to move the recommendation. We'll by Council Manasse, Second Abby

1117
03:23:44,122 --> 03:23:48,871
Councillor Finley, any discussion. Council of Justice. Thank you, Mr.

1118
03:23:48,972 --> 03:23:51,351
Mayor. Just in reference to what we heard in public

1119
03:23:51,372 --> 03:23:57,283
input. Um, I just wanted to say that... I raised

1120
03:23:57,323 --> 03:24:00,563
many of the concerns that were raised in public at

1121
03:24:00,563 --> 03:24:03,363
the time that we gave first, second, and third reading,

1122
03:24:03,363 --> 03:24:05,363
and I thought it was a real mistake to go

1123
03:24:05,403 --> 03:24:08,883
straight to. Third reading, given that there was no public

1124
03:24:08,984 --> 03:24:12,883
hearing due to the odious Bill 44. And no chance

1125
03:24:12,904 --> 03:24:16,323
for residents in the area to become familiar with the

1126
03:24:16,344 --> 03:24:22,323
project, nor to voice concerns. I was also really uncomfortable.

1127
03:24:22,323 --> 03:24:25,603
And actually remain uncomfortable with the amount of information available

1128
03:24:25,704 --> 03:24:32,243
to Council, lack thereof, including even the ownership structure of

1129
03:24:32,243 --> 03:24:36,307
the development. Um, having said that, I would also say

1130
03:24:36,307 --> 03:24:40,227
that my concerns with the process and rushing it through.

1131
03:24:40,227 --> 03:24:42,307
Um, do not go so far that I would oppose.

1132
03:24:43,448 --> 03:24:47,187
The adoption of this, um, the project does ultimately comply

1133
03:24:47,187 --> 03:24:51,667
to the OCP. And the local area plan, not fully.

1134
03:24:51,667 --> 03:24:58,109
Um, but I guess sufficiently. Alright any further discussion. Called

1135
03:24:58,109 --> 03:25:02,412
the question, I'll in favor. And opposed. Pose motion carries,

1136
03:25:02,412 --> 03:25:07,926
and then move on item 10. 4. Road naming bylaw

1137
03:25:07,947 --> 03:25:11,546
4084 is before Council for Adoption. If adopted, a new

1138
03:25:11,707 --> 03:25:15,526
Road, see away will be established. The recommendation is that

1139
03:25:15,787 --> 03:25:21,046
Council adopts Road Naming Bylaw, CWA number 4084 - 2026.

1140
03:25:22,347 --> 03:25:24,726
I'd like to move the recommendation, move by Councillor Hoggs.

1141
03:25:24,726 --> 03:25:26,886
I come by Councillor Finley, any discussion. I'll call the

1142
03:25:26,926 --> 03:25:29,926
question all in favor. In opposed, non - opposed, motion

1143
03:25:29,926 --> 03:25:33,739
carries. I'm going to the next bylaw. Thank you. So

1144
03:25:33,760 --> 03:25:37,899
10. 5 Road Closure, and Removal of Highway Dedication Bylaw

1145
03:25:37,920 --> 03:25:42,539
4069 for Esplanade Lane in Chemanus is before Council for

1146
03:25:42,560 --> 03:25:46,059
Third Reading. If third reading is provided, the bylaw will

1147
03:25:46,099 --> 03:25:48,779
be forwarded to the Ministry of Transportation and Transit for

1148
03:25:48,800 --> 03:25:52,779
their approval prior to adoption. Notice was given in accordance

1149
03:25:52,819 --> 03:25:55,499
with Section 40 of the Community Charter and posted to

1150
03:25:55,600 --> 03:25:59,339
North Cowching's Public Notice Board and website on July 27th.

1151
03:25:59,339 --> 03:26:03,179
It was posted to social media on July the 28th

1152
03:26:03,280 --> 03:26:05,699
and published in the Shimanez Courier on the 6th of

1153
03:26:05,699 --> 03:26:09,819
August. Notice was also given on July the 24th to

1154
03:26:09,859 --> 03:26:14,219
operators of Utilities who will be affected by the closure.

1155
03:26:14,219 --> 03:26:16,779
And tell us B. C. H. Hydro, and Fortis BC

1156
03:26:17,040 --> 03:26:19,979
responded and indicated that they had no issue with the

1157
03:26:20,160 --> 03:26:24,500
road closure. Uh, legislative services has received no correspondence from

1158
03:26:24,521 --> 03:26:27,140
the public. On this bylaw, but I would ask that

1159
03:26:27,180 --> 03:26:31,220
you please invite anyone in attendants today who believes that

1160
03:26:31,241 --> 03:26:34,820
they'll be affected by the bylaw to make representation to

1161
03:26:34,860 --> 03:26:38,260
Council before you consider third reading. Alright, is there any

1162
03:26:38,300 --> 03:26:41,220
members of the public in attendance here in the gallery?

1163
03:26:41,220 --> 03:26:43,940
You're online who would like to step forward to speak

1164
03:26:43,961 --> 03:26:51,703
to this proposed BYLA. Don't see anyone here in the

1165
03:26:51,703 --> 03:26:55,025
gallery? Anyone online? Alright, so we can now consider the

1166
03:26:55,046 --> 03:26:57,905
recommendation to give third reading to the BYLA with some

1167
03:26:57,945 --> 03:27:01,005
like to move that. But by Councillor Finley, seconded by

1168
03:27:01,506 --> 03:27:04,494
Councillor Manhouse, any discussion. Call the question all in favor.

1169
03:27:06,041 --> 03:27:08,900
In opposed, on opposed motion carries. When I move on

1170
03:27:08,900 --> 03:27:13,987
to item 10. 6. 10. 6 intercommunity business license bylaw

1171
03:27:14,088 --> 03:27:17,987
4075, is before Council for Third Reading. Notice was given

1172
03:27:18,168 --> 03:27:21,187
in accordance with Section 59 of the Community Charter and

1173
03:27:21,227 --> 03:27:25,107
posted to North Couch's Notice Board and website on August

1174
03:27:25,147 --> 03:27:27,747
the 6th and advertised on social media on August the

1175
03:27:27,747 --> 03:27:31,027
7th, published to the Couch in Ballet Citizen and Shimanez

1176
03:27:31,128 --> 03:27:35,587
Courier on the 13th of August. Legislative Services has received

1177
03:27:35,768 --> 03:27:39,507
no correspondence from the public on this bylaw, but I

1178
03:27:39,507 --> 03:27:42,547
would ask again that you please invite anyone who believes

1179
03:27:42,888 --> 03:27:45,507
they'll be affected by it to give them an opportunity

1180
03:27:45,528 --> 03:27:49,267
to speak to Council before 3rd, considering third reading. Alright,

1181
03:27:49,288 --> 03:27:51,667
would anyone in the gallery online like to speak on

1182
03:27:51,768 --> 03:27:55,594
this matter? See, no one in person, anyone online with

1183
03:27:55,634 --> 03:28:02,974
their hand raise. Alright, okay, with someone like to move

1184
03:28:03,075 --> 03:28:06,334
the recommendation for third reading, move about Councillor Finley, seconded

1185
03:28:06,374 --> 03:28:10,574
by Councillor Hog. Any discussion, call the question all in

1186
03:28:10,614 --> 03:28:15,015
favor. And oppose. Non - opposed motion carries. I'm going

1187
03:28:15,015 --> 03:28:19,613
to move on to item 10. 7. 10. 7 amendment

1188
03:28:19,874 --> 03:28:23,933
bylaw 4078 was initially presented to Council at the July

1189
03:28:24,194 --> 03:28:28,013
15th meeting and is now before Council for First Three

1190
03:28:28,053 --> 03:28:32,493
readings. The proposed bylaw would correct errors identified in earlier

1191
03:28:32,533 --> 03:28:39,053
zoning amendment bylaws related to the CD25 and CD26 Comprehensive

1192
03:28:39,074 --> 03:28:44,333
Development Zones, ensuring that the zoning regulations accurately reflect council's

1193
03:28:44,373 --> 03:28:48,705
previous intentions. Notice was given in accordance with Section 467

1194
03:28:48,726 --> 03:28:51,665
of the Local Government Acted, a public hearing is not

1195
03:28:51,766 --> 03:28:54,865
being held for this bylaw. It was posted to North

1196
03:28:54,905 --> 03:28:59,425
Couch's Notice Board, and on the website on July 13th,

1197
03:28:59,425 --> 03:29:02,305
advertised in social media. On the 4th of August and

1198
03:29:02,305 --> 03:29:06,385
published to the Citizen on August the 12th. The recommendation

1199
03:29:06,385 --> 03:29:09,425
is that Council gives first, second, and 3rd reading to

1200
03:29:09,465 --> 03:29:13,585
zoning amendment, bylaw number 4078 - 2026. Someone like to

1201
03:29:13,625 --> 03:29:16,583
move the recommendation. We move by Councillor Finley, seconded by

1202
03:29:16,604 --> 03:29:19,303
Councillor Stash, any discussion, called the question all in favor.

1203
03:29:20,133 --> 03:29:22,752
And opposed, not opposed motion carries. When I move on

1204
03:29:22,792 --> 03:29:27,508
item 10. 8. So 10. 8. So a hard copy

1205
03:29:27,548 --> 03:29:31,588
of the road closure and removal of Highway Dedication BYLA,

1206
03:29:31,588 --> 03:29:34,708
408. 2 for Stony Hill Road was circulated to Council

1207
03:29:34,889 --> 03:29:39,108
today because it was inadvertently not added to the agenda.

1208
03:29:39,108 --> 03:29:42,468
Um, so today you'll be considering third reading of this

1209
03:29:42,649 --> 03:29:45,908
bylaw. If third reading is provided, it will be forwarded

1210
03:29:45,948 --> 03:29:49,108
to the Ministry of Transportation and Transit for their approval

1211
03:29:49,529 --> 03:29:53,642
prior prior to adoption. Uh, notice was also given in

1212
03:29:53,642 --> 03:29:56,442
accordance with Section 40 of the Community Charter, posted to

1213
03:29:56,463 --> 03:29:59,722
North Cowching's public notice board and website on the 27th

1214
03:29:59,762 --> 03:30:03,242
of July. Advertised on social media on the 28th of

1215
03:30:03,282 --> 03:30:05,642
July and published in the Shimane's Courier on the 5th

1216
03:30:05,642 --> 03:30:10,353
of August. Uh, notice was also given on July the

1217
03:30:10,374 --> 03:30:13,313
24th to the operators of Utilities, who will be affected

1218
03:30:13,414 --> 03:30:17,233
by the closure and tell us BC Hydro and Fortis

1219
03:30:17,273 --> 03:30:20,113
BC responded and indicated that they had no issue with

1220
03:30:20,153 --> 03:30:25,153
the road closure. Ledge services has received no correspondence from

1221
03:30:25,153 --> 03:30:27,633
the public on this bylaw. And again, I'd ask that

1222
03:30:27,673 --> 03:30:31,713
you please invite anyone who believes they have an, they

1223
03:30:31,713 --> 03:30:33,553
will be affected by the road closure to make presentation

1224
03:30:33,593 --> 03:30:37,989
before considering third reading. Alright, would anyone like to speak

1225
03:30:38,029 --> 03:30:45,399
on this matter, whether in person or online. Alright, okay,

1226
03:30:45,439 --> 03:30:47,079
doesn't look like anyone. Uh, someone want to move the

1227
03:30:47,119 --> 03:30:52,417
recommendations. Blue by Councillor Finley. Second to buy Councillor Manhouse,

1228
03:30:52,417 --> 03:30:55,712
any discussion. Call the question all in favor. And opposed.

1229
03:30:56,808 --> 03:30:59,107
Then oppose motion carries, and then move on item 10.

1230
03:30:59,128 --> 03:31:04,903
9. Uh, so this bylaws being introduced, owning amendment by

1231
03:31:05,004 --> 03:31:08,903
life Warzone 8. 3 for the property at 86. 41

1232
03:31:09,084 --> 03:31:13,463
Sweeney Road. Uh, the proposed amendment would permit up to

1233
03:31:13,644 --> 03:31:17,063
two residential buildings containing a maximum of two dwelling units

1234
03:31:17,564 --> 03:31:20,663
in total with the smaller unit limited to 90 square

1235
03:31:20,663 --> 03:31:25,094
metres. Notice was given in accordance with Section 467 of

1236
03:31:25,115 --> 03:31:27,494
the local government Act that a public hearing is not

1237
03:31:27,515 --> 03:31:30,774
being held for this bylaw. It was posted to North

1238
03:31:30,814 --> 03:31:34,534
Couch since Public Notice Board and website on July 31st,

1239
03:31:34,534 --> 03:31:37,174
advertised on social media in August 4th, and published in

1240
03:31:37,755 --> 03:31:41,254
the citizen on August 12th. And the Shimane's Curry on

1241
03:31:41,294 --> 03:31:44,774
the 13th. The recommendation is that Council Gifts first, second,

1242
03:31:44,774 --> 03:31:49,494
and third readings to zoning amendment bylaw 4083 - 2026.

1243
03:31:50,650 --> 03:31:53,829
Move by Councillor Finley, second of a bike Council or

1244
03:31:54,010 --> 03:31:58,309
Menas. Uh, before we, so Councillor Justice, you may be

1245
03:31:58,309 --> 03:31:59,589
asking what I was going to ask, but we did

1246
03:31:59,690 --> 03:32:02,789
hear in public input, one of the nearby residents did

1247
03:32:02,789 --> 03:32:05,429
have some questions. And just wondering if staff could provide

1248
03:32:05,610 --> 03:32:09,269
just a very brief overview of the proposal and the

1249
03:32:09,370 --> 03:32:11,909
second one on Roland's policy. Council Justice, is that what

1250
03:32:11,909 --> 03:32:16,185
you're going to ask as well? I have some comments

1251
03:32:16,446 --> 03:32:26,302
as well. Okay, well, how about I let. Staff comment

1252
03:32:26,342 --> 03:32:28,142
on it, and then I'll go to you Council Justice.

1253
03:32:33,064 --> 03:32:37,283
The proposal is to allow a detached accessory dwelling unit

1254
03:32:38,584 --> 03:32:42,963
on the property at 8641 Sweeney Road. This would be

1255
03:32:43,224 --> 03:32:46,963
instead of having a second unit within the same building.

1256
03:32:46,963 --> 03:32:48,963
So it doesn't allow additional units, but it does allow

1257
03:32:48,984 --> 03:32:55,203
them to be in separate buildings. Uh, the property is

1258
03:32:55,243 --> 03:32:59,283
largely, it is, the proposal is compliant with the OCP.

1259
03:32:59,283 --> 03:33:02,243
It's largely compliant with the rural, um, with the Second

1260
03:33:02,283 --> 03:33:09,443
Dwelling Royal Lands policy with the exception of the separate,

1261
03:33:09,443 --> 03:33:12,963
I believe, Septic Fields, and the size of the parcel

1262
03:33:13,304 --> 03:33:18,803
being. 13 Hectars below the one Hectar, uh, guideline that

1263
03:33:18,803 --> 03:33:26,883
is in that policy. Um, they do have a report

1264
03:33:26,984 --> 03:33:31,763
from a licensed wastewater practitioner that indicates that the parcel

1265
03:33:31,763 --> 03:33:36,963
is capable of having on - site servicing for this.

1266
03:33:36,963 --> 03:33:40,723
The parcel is not connected to municipal water or sewer.

1267
03:33:40,723 --> 03:33:45,923
So it is entirely on - site servicing. Um, and

1268
03:33:45,944 --> 03:33:50,003
I believe it is a shared well with two separate

1269
03:33:50,024 --> 03:33:56,643
septic fields. Um, the applicants of indicated in their letter

1270
03:33:56,643 --> 03:34:01,523
of rationale that the separate dwelling is for a family

1271
03:34:01,563 --> 03:34:08,323
member who, um, through some health challenges requires, um, and

1272
03:34:08,363 --> 03:34:12,724
at grades, um. Uh, dwelling that is easier for them

1273
03:34:12,724 --> 03:34:16,741
to access. Great. Thanks for that. Councillor Justice, you had

1274
03:34:16,781 --> 03:34:19,918
a comment. Yeah, to that, um, I do have a

1275
03:34:19,958 --> 03:34:22,398
sort of a thought question that is to say a

1276
03:34:22,499 --> 03:34:29,152
thought slash question. About the, uh, I guess continuing relevance

1277
03:34:29,173 --> 03:34:33,292
of our Second Dwing and rural lands policy. And, um.

1278
03:34:36,660 --> 03:34:41,759
I guess it starts with the observation that we're making

1279
03:34:42,260 --> 03:34:48,799
regular exceptions to the parameters. Um, especially the minimum parcel

1280
03:34:48,820 --> 03:34:54,848
size. Um, I personally. Think that the policy has some

1281
03:34:54,869 --> 03:35:01,434
positive outcomes. With respect to limiting size of. The second

1282
03:35:01,455 --> 03:35:04,154
dwelling and with respect to the covenant that's put onto

1283
03:35:04,194 --> 03:35:10,394
the property to prevent subdivision. But I do wonder about,

1284
03:35:10,394 --> 03:35:15,594
um, whether we need to adjust the policy to fit

1285
03:35:17,215 --> 03:35:21,514
the, I guess the principle or vision underneath the policy.

1286
03:35:23,702 --> 03:35:28,241
And I think in policy world, there's a phenomenon called

1287
03:35:28,502 --> 03:35:38,072
normalization of Deviance. Whereby exceptions gradually become normalized. And I

1288
03:35:38,072 --> 03:35:42,758
guess given how frequent these exceptions are. What's the best

1289
03:35:43,499 --> 03:35:47,158
practice approach? I guess, cause on the one hand, you

1290
03:35:47,158 --> 03:35:50,038
think, okay, if we're always making exceptions, why don't we

1291
03:35:50,078 --> 03:35:54,658
adjust it to where the exceptions point us to. But

1292
03:35:54,658 --> 03:35:58,198
on the other hand, um, according to this normalization of

1293
03:35:58,699 --> 03:36:05,398
deviant's idea, if you adjust to where the exceptions go,

1294
03:36:05,398 --> 03:36:08,038
then the exceptions go even further. And I would just

1295
03:36:08,078 --> 03:36:09,718
point as in a sort of a simple example of

1296
03:36:09,758 --> 03:36:12,758
that, the way traffic is. Like if you set the

1297
03:36:12,779 --> 03:36:16,438
traffic, speed limit at 50, everybody's going to go 60,

1298
03:36:16,438 --> 03:36:17,958
you know that. But if you say, okay, everybody's going

1299
03:36:18,219 --> 03:36:20,676
60 and adjust the speed limit to 60. Then all

1300
03:36:20,676 --> 03:36:24,908
of a sudden everybody's going 70. So what's best practice

1301
03:36:24,948 --> 03:36:28,748
in terms of these sorts of land use policies dealing

1302
03:36:28,748 --> 03:36:35,646
with imperfect policy. Trying to achieve a particular sort of

1303
03:36:35,747 --> 03:36:45,158
a vision goal or principle. Thank you. Um, so this

1304
03:36:45,198 --> 03:36:49,958
policy was originally my understanding is implemented, um, as a

1305
03:36:50,059 --> 03:36:53,878
stopgap measure prior to the adoption of the new OCP.

1306
03:36:53,878 --> 03:36:58,658
Um, and it does make reference to old land you

1307
03:36:58,658 --> 03:37:02,598
designations from the old OCP and some of those, those

1308
03:37:02,638 --> 03:37:04,838
types of things. So I, I would tend to agree

1309
03:37:05,019 --> 03:37:08,998
that if we want to continue to use it or

1310
03:37:09,038 --> 03:37:11,398
if Council wishes to continue to use it, it probably

1311
03:37:11,398 --> 03:37:15,158
should receive some updating. Um, to bring it into line

1312
03:37:15,179 --> 03:37:21,398
with our new OCP. There's also the tact that we

1313
03:37:21,419 --> 03:37:26,098
could take of one of the modules of the, um,

1314
03:37:26,779 --> 03:37:31,718
zoning bylaw review project is to look at, um, these

1315
03:37:31,718 --> 03:37:36,038
issues in respect to agricultural and rural lands. And these,

1316
03:37:36,078 --> 03:37:38,678
these residences. So that's another way we could deal with

1317
03:37:38,718 --> 03:37:42,818
it is updating the regulations within the zoning bylaw. And

1318
03:37:42,859 --> 03:37:45,958
that is because that's a regulation that tends to be

1319
03:37:45,998 --> 03:37:49,478
more strictly adhered to. They would need to come in

1320
03:37:49,499 --> 03:37:53,078
for, well, I guess not the same thing as they

1321
03:37:53,078 --> 03:37:54,838
do now. They'd have to come in for a site

1322
03:37:54,859 --> 03:38:01,158
specific rezoning in order to do that. Um, so those

1323
03:38:01,259 --> 03:38:03,798
are kind of a couple of options for dealing with

1324
03:38:04,299 --> 03:38:06,998
the fact that the policy is a little bit out

1325
03:38:07,038 --> 03:38:12,438
of date. The, the original intent of that one hectar,

1326
03:38:12,438 --> 03:38:16,998
um, parcel size was kind of twofold. One is to

1327
03:38:17,038 --> 03:38:20,578
try and protect the rural character in these areas. Um,

1328
03:38:21,499 --> 03:38:24,518
minor deviance is from it. It really depends on the

1329
03:38:24,619 --> 03:38:28,382
context of the site. But it, it can be argued

1330
03:38:28,803 --> 03:38:30,702
on a case - by - case basis that it

1331
03:38:30,723 --> 03:38:33,822
doesn't and stops opinion in this case was that it

1332
03:38:33,923 --> 03:38:40,382
doesn't particularly impact in a meaningful way, the rural character

1333
03:38:40,422 --> 03:38:45,102
of the area. Um, the second reason was more practical.

1334
03:38:45,102 --> 03:38:48,302
And that's for the approximate size of onsite servicing for

1335
03:38:48,302 --> 03:38:52,042
these rural parcels to have a separate second dwelling. Um,

1336
03:38:52,483 --> 03:38:57,182
now of course there is similar demands, uh, as far

1337
03:38:57,182 --> 03:39:00,862
as water and septic go well in septic go for

1338
03:39:00,883 --> 03:39:06,202
a secondary suite. So it isn't as, as significant, but

1339
03:39:08,003 --> 03:39:12,442
they do, in this case, they have given us, um,

1340
03:39:13,603 --> 03:39:17,902
letters indicating from qualified professionals indicating that this site can

1341
03:39:19,123 --> 03:39:23,662
do can maintain adequate servicing for the two separate dwellings.

1342
03:39:23,662 --> 03:39:28,502
Um, now that isn't always the case. Um, kind of

1343
03:39:28,502 --> 03:39:31,742
one hectare is sort of a general rule, but sometimes

1344
03:39:31,923 --> 03:39:34,522
it can be less. Sometimes it can be more, um,

1345
03:39:34,803 --> 03:39:41,201
that's required to, to do that. Um, so it's a,

1346
03:39:41,862 --> 03:39:45,361
it is a, um, it is kind of a guideline

1347
03:39:47,782 --> 03:39:51,121
and the meaning, the reasoning behind it is largely those

1348
03:39:51,222 --> 03:39:55,279
two things. So staff, when we receive one of these

1349
03:39:55,279 --> 03:39:59,039
applications, obviously looks at it in respect to the OCP

1350
03:40:01,140 --> 03:40:04,999
and to the zoning. But we look at it, we

1351
03:40:04,999 --> 03:40:08,079
still do use this policy, um, and kind of measure

1352
03:40:08,079 --> 03:40:11,119
it against that. But with those things in mind, is

1353
03:40:11,159 --> 03:40:14,379
it possible? The servicing possible. And is it, you know,

1354
03:40:14,660 --> 03:40:20,067
appropriate in that particular area. Yep. Thank you. It's been

1355
03:40:20,067 --> 03:40:22,067
moving sector. Are we ready for the question? All in

1356
03:40:22,107 --> 03:40:25,027
favor and opposed on opposed motion carries. We'll now move

1357
03:40:25,067 --> 03:40:28,886
on to the next BYLA. Item 10. 10. So this

1358
03:40:28,907 --> 03:40:34,469
report introduces road naming Bylaw 4086 for bull rush. And

1359
03:40:34,730 --> 03:40:38,789
salution streets. The proposed bylaw would establish names for two

1360
03:40:38,810 --> 03:40:42,309
new roads being developed adjacent to the Coetzen Valley Hospital.

1361
03:40:43,538 --> 03:40:46,237
The recommendation is that Council gives first, second and third

1362
03:40:46,277 --> 03:40:51,757
readings to road naming byla Bull Rush and Salishan Streets.

1363
03:40:51,757 --> 03:40:57,858
Number 4086 2026. Move by Councillor Justice, seconded by Councillor

1364
03:40:57,898 --> 03:41:01,443
Finley. Any discussion? Call the question all in favor. And

1365
03:41:01,443 --> 03:41:04,243
oppose, not oppose motion carries. Got one more Bylaw. It's

1366
03:41:04,283 --> 03:41:07,763
10. 11. Yes. Last one. So the report, this report

1367
03:41:07,763 --> 03:41:12,963
introduces fire safety amendment bylaw number 4088, the proposed BYLA

1368
03:41:13,003 --> 03:41:16,643
would amend the fire protection, highway use and traffic bylaws

1369
03:41:16,643 --> 03:41:22,243
to strengthen fire safety administration, enhance emergency response authority, improve

1370
03:41:22,664 --> 03:41:28,003
enforcement capabilities and support, uh, some cost recovery measures. The

1371
03:41:28,104 --> 03:41:30,723
recommendation is that Council gives first, second, and third readings

1372
03:41:30,824 --> 03:41:35,763
to fire safety amendment bylaw number 4088 2026. What someone

1373
03:41:35,803 --> 03:41:38,643
like to move the recommendation? Move by Councillor Manhouse, seconded

1374
03:41:38,683 --> 03:41:43,507
by someone, Councillor Hog. Any discussion, all in favor. And

1375
03:41:43,507 --> 03:41:46,947
a pose and a pose motion carries. Mr. Swayby.

1376
03:41:54,001 --> 03:41:56,780
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Item 11. 1 is the York

1377
03:41:56,780 --> 03:42:00,060
Avenue Traffic Safety and Crofton. And the purpose is to

1378
03:42:00,161 --> 03:42:03,500
respond to the March 4th, 2026 Council Direction to Prepare

1379
03:42:03,761 --> 03:42:06,976
Report Outlining Traffic Safety Improvements. Uh, that could be done

1380
03:42:06,976 --> 03:42:10,636
to York Avenue, including traffic comming measures, signage upgrades, and

1381
03:42:10,677 --> 03:42:14,816
roadway improvements as requested by the Croft and Residence. And

1382
03:42:14,837 --> 03:42:17,936
align this with the Crofton Local Area Plan and the

1383
03:42:17,957 --> 03:42:22,016
Master Transportation plan. The recommendation from staff after reviewing this

1384
03:42:22,016 --> 03:42:27,216
is that one install electronic Speed Reader board facing northbound

1385
03:42:27,317 --> 03:42:31,549
traffic on York Avenue near the school. To finalise the

1386
03:42:31,570 --> 03:42:35,469
plans for and implement interim measures that include narrowing of

1387
03:42:35,509 --> 03:42:38,989
the existing wide travel lanes on York Avenue to deter

1388
03:42:39,170 --> 03:42:43,566
speeding by means of painted median with interim islands. Three,

1389
03:42:43,667 --> 03:42:49,246
install pedestrian activated flashing beacons at the existing unsignalized crosswalk

1390
03:42:49,246 --> 03:42:53,326
at the Jones Avenue York Avenue Intersection. For consult with

1391
03:42:53,326 --> 03:42:57,326
the adjacent businesses and install an interim curb bulge that

1392
03:42:57,366 --> 03:43:01,006
removes any unsafe perpendicular parking on the west side of

1393
03:43:01,107 --> 03:43:05,166
York Avenue at Jonah Avenue to improve crosswalk and intersection

1394
03:43:05,267 --> 03:43:09,386
safety in accordance with the Crofton Local Area plan. And

1395
03:43:09,386 --> 03:43:14,046
finally five arranged necessary warning signs for the sharp bend

1396
03:43:14,387 --> 03:43:18,889
at the south end of York Avenue. Councillor Stache, would

1397
03:43:18,889 --> 03:43:21,449
you like to move the recommendation? Absolutely wouldn't and then

1398
03:43:21,449 --> 03:43:23,529
speak to it. Someone want to second that Council of

1399
03:43:23,529 --> 03:43:28,737
Justice. Back to you, yeah, before. Thank you Mayor. Um,

1400
03:43:29,178 --> 03:43:33,637
really a plod staff on finding something that isn't permanent,

1401
03:43:33,637 --> 03:43:36,837
but it's practical and meaningful. Uh, and it'll be a

1402
03:43:36,837 --> 03:43:40,357
good, uh, I see a secondary outcome as it's going

1403
03:43:40,357 --> 03:43:42,917
to be a good, uh, initial change that it's going

1404
03:43:42,917 --> 03:43:45,157
to allow us to see what are going to be

1405
03:43:45,157 --> 03:43:49,397
the best permanent investments on your road. Like we saw

1406
03:43:49,418 --> 03:43:54,997
on Chemanus Road. We've seen extremely significant speed reductions on

1407
03:43:55,098 --> 03:43:59,477
shamaneous road once the road was narrowed. Uh, landscaping, wider

1408
03:43:59,477 --> 03:44:03,857
sidewalks pass - throughs, uh, boulevards, bump outs. So, um,

1409
03:44:04,058 --> 03:44:06,677
that was meaningful there. And so for this that we

1410
03:44:06,677 --> 03:44:11,477
can put some interim infrastructure in that's going to increase

1411
03:44:11,578 --> 03:44:14,917
safety as always a win. And I do appreciate how

1412
03:44:15,018 --> 03:44:18,597
staffed it in such a fiscally responsible way. Um, very

1413
03:44:18,637 --> 03:44:22,897
pragmatic of meeting the goals within our existing budget. Um,

1414
03:44:23,418 --> 03:44:26,837
I just, uh, my only commentary is, uh, someone who

1415
03:44:27,818 --> 03:44:31,077
walks or rise away by quite regularly through this section.

1416
03:44:31,077 --> 03:44:33,797
Uh, and through other areas is just anytime we have,

1417
03:44:33,797 --> 03:44:35,957
uh, I see we're going to use the temporary curve

1418
03:44:35,997 --> 03:44:38,677
bump outs. The old way was putting the bump outs

1419
03:44:38,717 --> 03:44:40,797
without a pass - through in them. So if we

1420
03:44:40,797 --> 03:44:43,237
do intend and I'm sure engineering, because we're looking at

1421
03:44:43,277 --> 03:44:45,237
the ways we do them now as such, we've done

1422
03:44:45,237 --> 03:44:48,357
on, uh, the new river road roundabout or the new

1423
03:44:48,698 --> 03:44:52,357
herd road Roundabout people on bikes have the ability to

1424
03:44:52,458 --> 03:44:57,137
flow through bump outs and curbs and any islands. And

1425
03:44:57,338 --> 03:44:59,477
especially in this case, even more so is that the

1426
03:44:59,477 --> 03:45:03,157
kids riding, uh, on the shoulder can flow in through

1427
03:45:03,157 --> 03:45:06,597
the medians and then enter the crosswalk safely to cross

1428
03:45:06,637 --> 03:45:09,557
into school. Cause I'd love to see more encouragement and

1429
03:45:09,597 --> 03:45:12,517
a safe environment kids to be able to ride their

1430
03:45:12,557 --> 03:45:14,917
bikes again and make that the norm of getting to

1431
03:45:14,917 --> 03:45:19,077
school. Um, all the other changes are sound. And I

1432
03:45:19,077 --> 03:45:25,728
look forward to them. Thanks Council Stash. Councillor Finley. Thanks

1433
03:45:25,909 --> 03:45:28,928
Mr. Mayor. As you know, I lived on York Avenue

1434
03:45:28,968 --> 03:45:31,968
for 17 years. I built our house there and 10

1435
03:45:31,968 --> 03:45:33,728
years ago almost to the day my car got destroyed

1436
03:45:34,229 --> 03:45:37,248
right in front of my house because of a Speeder

1437
03:45:37,509 --> 03:45:40,208
and what I believe is a drunk driver. Although unfortunately

1438
03:45:40,309 --> 03:45:43,792
never got confirmed. I agree with a lot of this.

1439
03:45:43,792 --> 03:45:46,032
I don't think the Speed Reader is going to help,

1440
03:45:46,032 --> 03:45:48,512
but I think there might be some other alternatives that

1441
03:45:48,552 --> 03:45:51,072
would be inexpensive as well. So one of the biggest

1442
03:45:51,173 --> 03:45:55,232
issues I've heard from residents in talking about this is,

1443
03:45:55,232 --> 03:45:59,405
um, the school zone signage itself. Is a bit inadequate

1444
03:45:59,906 --> 03:46:02,925
because it sits at Adelaide and York rather than being

1445
03:46:02,965 --> 03:46:06,285
a little further south up the hill of Osborne Bay.

1446
03:46:06,285 --> 03:46:07,805
So as you're coming down Osborne Bay and it becomes

1447
03:46:07,906 --> 03:46:10,925
York Avenue, you can't even see the school zone until

1448
03:46:11,026 --> 03:46:12,525
you pass Adelaide. It's right there. But if you're coming

1449
03:46:12,565 --> 03:46:15,245
from Adelaide and turning north on to York, you don't

1450
03:46:15,245 --> 03:46:17,765
even know that it's a school zone because there's no

1451
03:46:17,765 --> 03:46:20,205
signage. So I think if we could move that sign

1452
03:46:20,245 --> 03:46:24,365
up a little bit south on Osborne Bay and have

1453
03:46:24,365 --> 03:46:26,125
one on Adelaide as well, that might help as well

1454
03:46:26,306 --> 03:46:31,620
potentially just painting school zone. On the road. On the

1455
03:46:31,721 --> 03:46:33,460
north side and the south side of the school itself.

1456
03:46:33,460 --> 03:46:35,860
I think that would be critical for people because then,

1457
03:46:35,860 --> 03:46:37,700
you know, coming off those roads, you can actually know

1458
03:46:37,740 --> 03:46:42,814
that at the school zone. Those are the big things.

1459
03:46:42,814 --> 03:46:44,974
I mean, I'm very happy with the idea of, of

1460
03:46:45,155 --> 03:46:49,214
the, uh, the crosswalk beacon at, at the post office

1461
03:46:49,315 --> 03:46:51,614
and the bump out there as well. I've almost been

1462
03:46:51,654 --> 03:46:55,214
hit there two or three times myself. Um, so as,

1463
03:46:55,254 --> 03:46:57,134
as someone who lives in Crofton, I'm very happy with

1464
03:46:57,235 --> 03:47:00,494
the, with, uh, what staff has brought forward, uh, I

1465
03:47:00,515 --> 03:47:03,134
don't know if the Speed Raiders is the right money

1466
03:47:03,155 --> 03:47:05,536
to spend in this location. I think everything else is

1467
03:47:05,557 --> 03:47:07,296
fantastic. And if we could do a couple other little

1468
03:47:07,317 --> 03:47:10,016
tweaks, I'd be a hundred percent in favor, but I'm

1469
03:47:10,056 --> 03:47:12,176
not really in favor of dropping 20 grand on a

1470
03:47:12,176 --> 03:47:16,893
Speed Raider that I don't know will help. Councillor Justice.

1471
03:47:19,385 --> 03:47:23,364
Thank you just very briefly to the process. I just

1472
03:47:23,404 --> 03:47:28,372
thought this was a great example. Of the way governance

1473
03:47:28,372 --> 03:47:32,292
should work in a municipality. There was a concerned raised

1474
03:47:32,332 --> 03:47:36,832
by some locals who observed something that was really, uh,

1475
03:47:37,033 --> 03:47:41,092
problematic and dangerous and brought it to Council in a

1476
03:47:41,132 --> 03:47:44,852
convincing way. And Council responded. And then we got a

1477
03:47:44,892 --> 03:47:50,748
really great staff response and a really fabulous analysis. And

1478
03:47:51,489 --> 03:47:54,228
we've got, we've got to fix on the go. So

1479
03:47:54,228 --> 03:47:57,308
I think it's just really good example of a good

1480
03:47:57,308 --> 03:48:05,204
government's process. Councillor Stache Councillor Finley helped remind me there

1481
03:48:05,204 --> 03:48:06,564
was just one last thing I was going to bring

1482
03:48:06,564 --> 03:48:09,604
up. And it's more of a municipality - wide thing.

1483
03:48:09,604 --> 03:48:13,284
Um, especially for the crosswalk that goes across there or

1484
03:48:13,284 --> 03:48:16,324
the crosswork we're putting down, uh, closer down to the

1485
03:48:16,585 --> 03:48:19,843
post office. One thing North Couch and doesn't do on

1486
03:48:19,883 --> 03:48:22,543
any of our crosswalk signs where they're not signalized, but

1487
03:48:22,744 --> 03:48:25,283
Duncan does it on every intersection. And so does Lady

1488
03:48:25,283 --> 03:48:30,003
Smith. So they have the vertical running along the signpost.

1489
03:48:30,003 --> 03:48:33,843
It is a reflective post and it says crosswalk on

1490
03:48:33,843 --> 03:48:38,323
it. Running vertically the length of the crosswalk sign and

1491
03:48:38,363 --> 03:48:42,083
it reflects at night extremely brightly. I've noticed that on

1492
03:48:42,184 --> 03:48:46,243
every crosswalk and Lady Smith and every crosswalk in Duncan,

1493
03:48:46,243 --> 03:48:48,243
North Couch and doesn't do it at even at any

1494
03:48:48,243 --> 03:48:50,963
of our schools. So, uh, something to plant the seed

1495
03:48:50,984 --> 03:48:52,803
with staff on. I had brought it up two years

1496
03:48:52,803 --> 03:48:55,683
ago when I had a meeting with Mr. Rightsma and

1497
03:48:55,784 --> 03:48:59,363
Mr. Dahoup. But hopefully now we've actually made the investment

1498
03:48:59,384 --> 03:49:02,963
in having expanded our traffic engineering team. So that's something

1499
03:49:03,003 --> 03:49:04,323
they could look at. And this could be one of

1500
03:49:04,323 --> 03:49:07,363
the first places where we add that small secondary edition.

1501
03:49:09,098 --> 03:49:13,397
All right. Thanks. Thanks, Councillor Stache. Um, yeah, before we,

1502
03:49:13,397 --> 03:49:14,757
uh, we vote on this, I just want to take

1503
03:49:14,797 --> 03:49:18,037
a moment to acknowledge. And Councillor Justice brought this up,

1504
03:49:18,037 --> 03:49:20,677
but the, um, the efforts from residents in the area

1505
03:49:21,018 --> 03:49:24,357
to draw attention on this issue, particularly miss Loonzie Lowen,

1506
03:49:24,357 --> 03:49:26,597
who I know is in the gallery this evening who

1507
03:49:26,618 --> 03:49:30,437
wrote Council and then took the time to gather signatures

1508
03:49:30,477 --> 03:49:34,677
from folks in the surrounding area over 340 people, which,

1509
03:49:34,677 --> 03:49:37,077
um, I think made clear to Council. This was a

1510
03:49:37,117 --> 03:49:40,677
priority for, for Coffner residents. Over the longterm, I hope

1511
03:49:40,677 --> 03:49:44,277
we are able to realise the vision, um, as I

1512
03:49:44,317 --> 03:49:47,637
outlined in the Crofton local area plan, the new master

1513
03:49:47,637 --> 03:49:52,577
transportation plan, which envisions major streetscape improvements for the, uh,

1514
03:49:52,698 --> 03:49:57,397
the length of York Avenue with street trees, uh, landscape

1515
03:49:57,418 --> 03:50:02,437
boulevard, um, infrastructure for active transportation. Um, a staff outline

1516
03:50:02,458 --> 03:50:04,597
in the report. Um, a project like that would be

1517
03:50:05,498 --> 03:50:08,117
very costly. If you go back 10 years ago, the

1518
03:50:08,117 --> 03:50:11,637
municipality did undertake major improvements on, on Joan Avenue, which

1519
03:50:11,978 --> 03:50:14,437
turned out great, um, for, for Crofton. I mean, whole

1520
03:50:14,477 --> 03:50:17,317
municipality is able to enjoy a lot of that. Those

1521
03:50:17,317 --> 03:50:18,677
upgrades that were done there. And at the time we

1522
03:50:18,717 --> 03:50:20,277
thought we were going to do something like that on

1523
03:50:20,538 --> 03:50:24,197
York Avenue shortly afterwards. As Council is well aware in

1524
03:50:24,237 --> 03:50:25,957
many of the members of the public are, um, as

1525
03:50:25,957 --> 03:50:29,797
well. We've got some major constraints with our capital program.

1526
03:50:29,797 --> 03:50:32,517
But hopefully over time, um, we're able to, uh, secure

1527
03:50:32,538 --> 03:50:34,837
some grant funding from the senior levels of government to

1528
03:50:34,837 --> 03:50:38,497
make these, uh, improvements on York Avenue, which would, um,

1529
03:50:38,858 --> 03:50:40,917
it'll be great for Croft and residents. Is that's really

1530
03:50:40,917 --> 03:50:45,237
the main arterial road that runs through the community. However,

1531
03:50:45,418 --> 03:50:49,157
what staff have proposed here is a cost effective solution

1532
03:50:49,658 --> 03:50:51,317
or a set of solutions that are going to help

1533
03:50:51,898 --> 03:50:54,757
reduce speeds in the area and improve safety for the

1534
03:50:54,858 --> 03:50:56,917
kids that go to the Croft Elementary School. So I'm

1535
03:50:56,917 --> 03:50:59,317
going to be supporting the motion in front of us.

1536
03:50:59,317 --> 03:51:01,317
And if the new to add, I'm going to call

1537
03:51:01,357 --> 03:51:05,877
the question Councillor Fenley. Thanks Mr. Mayor. I don't really

1538
03:51:05,917 --> 03:51:07,717
want to sever all this, but I just can't be

1539
03:51:07,738 --> 03:51:10,357
in favor of the Speed Reader. So perhaps we could

1540
03:51:10,458 --> 03:51:12,357
sever number one and then do the rest of them

1541
03:51:12,618 --> 03:51:15,280
collectively. Sure. Let's do that. All right. Let's sever number

1542
03:51:15,280 --> 03:51:19,440
one. We'll call the question then on number one installing.

1543
03:51:19,440 --> 03:51:21,520
Yeah. Councillor Stash. I ask a question on that before

1544
03:51:21,541 --> 03:51:24,720
we call the question then to maybe support Councillor Finley's

1545
03:51:24,720 --> 03:51:28,000
confidence. Speed readers, I guess the only permanent costs would

1546
03:51:28,000 --> 03:51:31,120
be the base. Are they sold, I guess, to staff?

1547
03:51:31,221 --> 03:51:34,080
Are they, um, self - powered and solar power so

1548
03:51:34,080 --> 03:51:37,840
that the only permanent installation is the concrete pylon base.

1549
03:51:37,840 --> 03:51:40,560
And the reader itself could be moved throughout the municipality.

1550
03:51:40,560 --> 03:51:42,080
I think that was the case. We had one on

1551
03:51:42,181 --> 03:51:44,720
Tatlow Road that moved a couple of times up on

1552
03:51:44,741 --> 03:51:47,600
Osburn Bayrol. Alternative staff, maybe you also speak just to

1553
03:51:47,621 --> 03:51:51,260
the effectiveness of the Speed Reader Boards. Mr. Fargus, Mr.

1554
03:51:51,301 --> 03:51:58,733
Assange. Mr. Si. Good afternoon, Mayor and Council.

1555
03:52:01,310 --> 03:52:05,002
The first question is Speeder Boards. Yes, they are solar.

1556
03:52:05,865 --> 03:52:10,410
And they are portable. Uh, but, uh, for them to,

1557
03:52:10,410 --> 03:52:14,890
um, uh, installed, we need a metal pole and a

1558
03:52:14,930 --> 03:52:19,530
concrete base underground. So those are permanent, uh, but the

1559
03:52:19,570 --> 03:52:23,530
Speedy Road itself can be rotated. Now, um, what we've

1560
03:52:23,631 --> 03:52:27,530
been seeing is that once we move the Speederwood away,

1561
03:52:27,530 --> 03:52:30,730
uh, we do get, uh, a lot of, uh, requests,

1562
03:52:30,730 --> 03:52:33,907
uh, to bring it back. So in fact, like just

1563
03:52:33,907 --> 03:52:37,907
the next season or the year after we just have

1564
03:52:37,907 --> 03:52:40,547
to put it back in place or have to buy

1565
03:52:40,568 --> 03:52:43,747
a new one to replace it, uh, so it's, it's

1566
03:52:43,848 --> 03:52:47,107
just based on our experience is that, uh, we're kind

1567
03:52:47,107 --> 03:52:50,227
of moving away from that rotation, uh, because we're seeing

1568
03:52:50,227 --> 03:52:54,307
the need from, um, like the community to have them

1569
03:52:54,408 --> 03:52:59,267
permanently remain there. So I hope that answers the question.

1570
03:52:59,267 --> 03:53:02,307
So it is doable, but it's just, uh, it's not

1571
03:53:02,347 --> 03:53:05,587
what the community expects us to do. Right. Great. So

1572
03:53:05,688 --> 03:53:07,827
in the follow - up, I'm in support of it

1573
03:53:07,867 --> 03:53:11,587
being put in this place just to again, maybe further,

1574
03:53:11,587 --> 03:53:14,067
uh, make Councillor Finley feel a bit better. Is do

1575
03:53:14,067 --> 03:53:17,587
we have an E anecdotal evidence in them municipality where

1576
03:53:17,587 --> 03:53:20,307
we've installed and then done the and left it in

1577
03:53:20,307 --> 03:53:23,107
a permanent position and done the follow up recording to

1578
03:53:23,128 --> 03:53:32,070
see if we've seen the percentiles change. I like not

1579
03:53:32,070 --> 03:53:34,470
in this municipality. I'm not aware of that. If that

1580
03:53:34,470 --> 03:53:38,230
has been done, but in other municipalities in my previous

1581
03:53:38,251 --> 03:53:42,470
jurisdiction, so it has been tested, uh, and how it

1582
03:53:42,510 --> 03:53:45,110
was done is this period rewards can be put on

1583
03:53:45,771 --> 03:53:48,870
stealth mode. So they still collect data, but they don't

1584
03:53:48,910 --> 03:53:52,470
display anything. So, so then we can see before and

1585
03:53:52,510 --> 03:53:56,310
after what happens, uh, and, uh, there is some effectiveness.

1586
03:53:57,077 --> 03:54:00,377
It is not as great. It's the same with any

1587
03:54:00,398 --> 03:54:04,617
traffic coming measure, like a defectiveness is always a question.

1588
03:54:04,617 --> 03:54:07,657
Even with the Speed Humps, it may be argued that

1589
03:54:08,158 --> 03:54:11,595
the effect is only localized. If you go 100 metres,

1590
03:54:11,595 --> 03:54:14,475
uh, north and south of the location, it may again

1591
03:54:14,515 --> 03:54:17,715
be the same speed. So effectiveness is always the. So

1592
03:54:17,715 --> 03:54:20,715
whether it's the reduction is an average reduction is five

1593
03:54:20,755 --> 03:54:25,035
kilometers, uh, in speed or 10 kilometers. It all depends.

1594
03:54:25,035 --> 03:54:30,283
Uh, so, but there is effectiveness with this product. All

1595
03:54:30,283 --> 03:54:32,683
right. Ready to call the question then on number one

1596
03:54:32,683 --> 03:54:37,482
here. All in favor. And oppose Councillor Finley opposed motion

1597
03:54:37,482 --> 03:54:40,682
carries. I'll now call the question then on items two

1598
03:54:40,722 --> 03:54:44,209
to five. All in favor. And opposed and a pose.

1599
03:54:45,003 --> 03:54:47,302
Motion carries. We'll now move on to the next report,

1600
03:54:47,302 --> 03:54:50,262
Mr. Swaby. Thanks Mr. Mayor. The item 11. 2 is

1601
03:54:50,262 --> 03:54:54,822
the pre - stressed concrete cylinder pipe, which is also

1602
03:54:54,843 --> 03:54:57,182
known as the high press gun replacement. And this is

1603
03:54:57,182 --> 03:55:00,982
the type of pipe that you saw break in Calgary

1604
03:55:01,003 --> 03:55:05,122
several times and other communities. Uh, and we are, um,

1605
03:55:05,483 --> 03:55:07,542
having to deal with a section of pipe in our

1606
03:55:07,542 --> 03:55:10,902
infrastructure that is a high press gun nature, which needs

1607
03:55:10,902 --> 03:55:14,582
to be replaced as soon as possible. We've taken every

1608
03:55:14,683 --> 03:55:19,142
precaution, Mr. Mayor, to have replacement parts of available. It's

1609
03:55:19,142 --> 03:55:21,862
a very difficult site to, uh, work in if it

1610
03:55:21,862 --> 03:55:25,542
does fail before we get to it. Uh, but we're

1611
03:55:25,542 --> 03:55:29,702
bringing this, um, report forward just as information, uh, to

1612
03:55:30,443 --> 03:55:32,262
give an outline of when we'll be bringing this forward

1613
03:55:32,523 --> 03:55:37,622
in 2027. Unfortunately, it's a large project that the new

1614
03:55:37,662 --> 03:55:40,662
council will be dealing with immediately with about a 10

1615
03:55:40,702 --> 03:55:43,382
million dollar price tag to it along with the new

1616
03:55:43,403 --> 03:55:46,182
budget. So it's a very challenging time for the new

1617
03:55:46,222 --> 03:55:49,862
council for sure to understand this project, which we're recommending

1618
03:55:49,902 --> 03:55:52,742
to go to a counterpartition. Uh, and then we'll have

1619
03:55:52,742 --> 03:55:56,822
to do our borrowing in time, uh, which is before

1620
03:55:57,083 --> 03:56:00,022
July 31st is likely the date that we would have

1621
03:56:00,022 --> 03:56:04,448
to meet for the borrowing. Uh, if the counter petition

1622
03:56:04,488 --> 03:56:06,848
fails, we'll then have to look at raising taxes to

1623
03:56:06,949 --> 03:56:10,208
pay for this. This is not a, uh, should we

1624
03:56:10,208 --> 03:56:12,368
do this project? This is a, we must do the

1625
03:56:12,408 --> 03:56:15,728
project. And it's a very difficult project and very expensive

1626
03:56:15,909 --> 03:56:19,953
project. So Mr. Mayor, this is presented for information. Councillor

1627
03:56:19,993 --> 03:56:24,869
Justice. Thank you. Yeah. Just a question to help me

1628
03:56:24,869 --> 03:56:27,429
with my understanding. As I read the report, I got

1629
03:56:27,450 --> 03:56:33,589
the sense that staff considered the prestress concrete cylinder pipe

1630
03:56:33,850 --> 03:56:40,976
to present a very serious, um, failure risk. But at

1631
03:56:40,976 --> 03:56:45,216
the same time, the proposed funding process, as I understood,

1632
03:56:45,557 --> 03:56:49,776
could delay the project until 2027. So I'd like to

1633
03:56:49,797 --> 03:56:55,108
more fully understand that. Trade - off. I guess, more

1634
03:56:55,108 --> 03:56:58,085
fully. I mean, what are we risking and what could

1635
03:56:58,085 --> 03:57:02,245
it cost us if we, if we wait till 2027,

1636
03:57:02,245 --> 03:57:05,365
as why aren't we pushing ahead with as fast as

1637
03:57:05,405 --> 03:57:10,871
possible. The risk is really for a failure in the

1638
03:57:10,892 --> 03:57:12,871
interim of which we have to repair it. So it

1639
03:57:12,871 --> 03:57:16,231
would be the repair costs associated with the failure before

1640
03:57:16,252 --> 03:57:20,483
we go to. We're unable at this point given it's

1641
03:57:20,483 --> 03:57:24,643
going to, we've been establishing the, uh, the lines for

1642
03:57:24,664 --> 03:57:28,323
the, those that will pay in terms of users. Uh,

1643
03:57:28,344 --> 03:57:30,643
and also we run into the election. So there was

1644
03:57:31,064 --> 03:57:36,563
multiple of impacts of why this couldn't precede this term.

1645
03:57:38,389 --> 03:57:44,622
Okay. Thanks. Councillor Sash. Just a question or maybe even

1646
03:57:44,622 --> 03:57:47,182
an opportunity. I mean, not many people listen or maybe

1647
03:57:47,283 --> 03:57:51,022
it's the radio on. I just fear of the risks

1648
03:57:51,043 --> 03:57:54,382
we've seen in other communities of counter petitions no matter

1649
03:57:54,403 --> 03:57:59,022
the urgency or the dire crisis of it, uh, undermining

1650
03:57:59,123 --> 03:58:03,982
of the messaging of a municipality to get funding and

1651
03:58:04,003 --> 03:58:06,542
be able to move forward through the local government act

1652
03:58:06,563 --> 03:58:09,902
of a project of this nature. And I'm sure staff

1653
03:58:09,923 --> 03:58:13,422
were already wrapping their heads around on the, uh, transparency

1654
03:58:13,603 --> 03:58:17,022
and the educational component of it. Do we feel that,

1655
03:58:17,022 --> 03:58:19,502
uh, from what you've seen in other places, this should

1656
03:58:19,502 --> 03:58:22,142
be something that the next council has to worry about.

1657
03:58:22,142 --> 03:58:24,702
It is touched on there a bit being that it's

1658
03:58:24,742 --> 03:58:27,722
a petition process, but I'm still trying to reflect. And

1659
03:58:27,722 --> 03:58:29,742
I think I've asked Council before just my two terms

1660
03:58:30,083 --> 03:58:32,782
in Saskatchewan. I think this is, is this a unique

1661
03:58:33,043 --> 03:58:36,302
process to BC? Uh, I know we are able to

1662
03:58:36,403 --> 03:58:39,502
do projects of crisis without having to have the public

1663
03:58:39,763 --> 03:58:43,982
vote us down on it without intimate lack of intimate

1664
03:58:43,982 --> 03:58:49,277
knowledge or maybe misinformation. Biasing there. The petition process. I

1665
03:58:49,277 --> 03:58:53,597
think Mr. Mayor, that's a good segue into we'll be

1666
03:58:53,597 --> 03:58:55,677
bringing forward a report to the new Council. And we'll

1667
03:58:55,938 --> 03:58:58,317
be providing those options and the REST associated with it.

1668
03:58:58,911 --> 03:59:04,111
And how we move forward. Council Finley. Just from my

1669
03:59:04,151 --> 03:59:07,551
understanding, Mr. Swaybe, um, this is a South End water.

1670
03:59:08,124 --> 03:59:10,583
System. It'd be the local areas, uh, service for the

1671
03:59:10,684 --> 03:59:19,272
south end. It wouldn't be municipal wide. That's correct. Well,

1672
03:59:19,312 --> 03:59:21,752
that's part of the issue that we're resolving, as you

1673
03:59:21,752 --> 03:59:26,655
know, the Croft and water supply. There's a mixing that's

1674
03:59:26,655 --> 03:59:28,975
been going on and we're, we're trying to resolve who

1675
03:59:28,996 --> 03:59:33,391
actually will be benefiting from this. Was someone like to

1676
03:59:33,431 --> 03:59:36,031
move or receive this for information? By Council Justice, Second

1677
03:59:36,071 --> 03:59:37,791
by Councillor Staff, I'll call the question all in favor.

1678
03:59:38,636 --> 03:59:40,935
And opposed and opposed motion carries. All right. One more

1679
03:59:40,956 --> 03:59:43,975
report. Item 11. 3, Mr. Swaby. Thank you, Mr. Mayor

1680
03:59:44,076 --> 03:59:47,175
11. 3 is a report on the King's View childcare

1681
03:59:47,215 --> 03:59:50,535
construction Tender Part 2. The purpose is to award the

1682
03:59:50,556 --> 03:59:58,695
contracts for framing labour architectural woodwork cemental electrical and landscaping

1683
03:59:58,735 --> 04:00:02,631
for the construction of the King's View childcare centre. Uh,

1684
04:00:02,671 --> 04:00:06,631
the recommendations are quite lengthy on page 14. Would you

1685
04:00:06,631 --> 04:00:08,311
like me to read them all? I don't think it's

1686
04:00:08,332 --> 04:00:12,857
necessary, but I'll turn to Council. No. Yeah. Okay. Now

1687
04:00:12,857 --> 04:00:14,697
I don't think it's necessary, Mr. Swaby. So they're all

1688
04:00:14,718 --> 04:00:17,350
as set owed on page 14. All right. So we've

1689
04:00:17,350 --> 04:00:21,510
got six different contracts being awarded here. Um, for the

1690
04:00:21,510 --> 04:00:23,910
work that Mr. Swabi reference with someone like to move

1691
04:00:23,950 --> 04:00:26,790
the recommendation, the By Council Hogs, that come by Councillor

1692
04:00:26,790 --> 04:00:30,590
Justice, any discussion. Councillor Stache. Just real quick, just on

1693
04:00:30,590 --> 04:00:32,870
the one sentence in here. It's, it's speaking to the

1694
04:00:33,051 --> 04:00:36,150
whole project that this is within budget just to clarify.

1695
04:00:38,183 --> 04:00:41,762
We're falling in under budget on this currently. Great. Thanks.

1696
04:00:43,292 --> 04:00:50,974
Call the question then. I'll. Be good. All right. I'll

1697
04:00:51,014 --> 04:00:54,380
call the question all in favor. And opposed, not opposed

1698
04:00:54,561 --> 04:00:56,700
motion carries. And then I move on to new business.

1699
04:00:56,700 --> 04:01:00,540
We have two motions that we're introduced at the July

1700
04:01:00,961 --> 04:01:09,574
Council meeting Council Justice. Item 12. 1. Just thank you

1701
04:01:09,595 --> 04:01:13,254
Mr. Mayor. Item 12. 1 refers to sustainable archive space

1702
04:01:13,254 --> 04:01:17,254
for the Couch and Valley Museum. And the motion that

1703
04:01:17,275 --> 04:01:19,974
I would like to make is that Council direct staff

1704
04:01:20,235 --> 04:01:23,014
to work with the couch and historical society to assist

1705
04:01:23,035 --> 04:01:27,094
them in identifying options for suitable sufficient and sustainable space

1706
04:01:27,134 --> 04:01:29,894
for the archives of the Couch and Valley Museum and

1707
04:01:29,934 --> 04:01:34,908
Archives. As staff capacity permits and alongside other Council priorities

1708
04:01:35,489 --> 04:01:37,708
and I speak very briefly to it if it's seconded.

1709
04:01:39,344 --> 04:01:44,203
Second, my counts for stash. Thank you. So excuse me,

1710
04:01:44,203 --> 04:01:48,603
the Cowch and Valley Museum and archives does provide an

1711
04:01:48,643 --> 04:01:52,923
important, um, public service by preserving the history and heritage

1712
04:01:52,944 --> 04:01:57,723
of our community. Um, these, uh, archives are not simply

1713
04:01:57,984 --> 04:02:02,123
a, uh, collection of stored materials. They're a very valuable

1714
04:02:02,464 --> 04:02:07,220
resource. Um, they require appropriate conditions to ensure they're protected

1715
04:02:07,561 --> 04:02:12,100
and accessible. And the current archival space, uh, inadequate and

1716
04:02:12,121 --> 04:02:16,100
does not meet many of the essential, um, preservation standards

1717
04:02:16,921 --> 04:02:20,020
and also does not provide a secure long - term

1718
04:02:20,020 --> 04:02:23,940
solution. So supporting this motion would allow the municipality to

1719
04:02:25,161 --> 04:02:30,660
work collaboratively with and assist the historic society to explore

1720
04:02:31,561 --> 04:02:36,800
some practical options for, for finding or getting obtaining. Um,

1721
04:02:37,161 --> 04:02:42,717
suitable and sustainable. Space. I think this is a reasonable

1722
04:02:43,058 --> 04:02:47,757
constructive role for the municipality helping protect an important community

1723
04:02:48,098 --> 04:02:54,174
asset. We'll also recognising that staff capacity and other council

1724
04:02:54,214 --> 04:02:58,094
priorities are there and demanding. So I hope Council can

1725
04:02:58,595 --> 04:03:05,268
support this motion. Councillor Stash. I'll happily support the motion.

1726
04:03:05,268 --> 04:03:09,188
My own thought was is just making the Crofton Museum

1727
04:03:09,369 --> 04:03:12,788
and the Shimanez Museum. I know Ximanez has extensive archives.

1728
04:03:12,788 --> 04:03:15,428
And if there's any, as I spoke about with Cow

1729
04:03:15,468 --> 04:03:18,388
- op of, you know, groups getting together and working

1730
04:03:18,569 --> 04:03:21,748
collectively to achieve the goals that there might be a

1731
04:03:21,769 --> 04:03:24,788
funding sources that Crofton and Chemaines have, it would be

1732
04:03:24,788 --> 04:03:27,828
able to support this. As alongside the couch and value

1733
04:03:27,828 --> 04:03:29,828
museum. So just making them aware of this would be

1734
04:03:30,809 --> 04:03:36,719
my only addition. Thanks for smiling. Did he contrarian at

1735
04:03:36,719 --> 04:03:38,559
the table? I'm curious why we would take this on

1736
04:03:38,660 --> 04:03:42,879
and not maybe recommend it to CBRD or City of

1737
04:03:42,919 --> 04:03:46,719
Duncan to participate in this since obviously it's for the

1738
04:03:46,719 --> 04:03:53,068
entire Council Valley, not just North Cowching. I don't know

1739
04:03:53,068 --> 04:03:55,971
if that's a question. The Council of Justice, maybe. Councillor

1740
04:03:55,971 --> 04:03:58,837
Justice, you want to take that on. Um, all I

1741
04:03:58,837 --> 04:04:02,117
would say to the Councillor on my right is you've

1742
04:04:02,117 --> 04:04:11,951
seen this CVRD. Megas who would add to that is

1743
04:04:11,972 --> 04:04:16,031
with the Shimanos Valley Historical Society, we do fund them

1744
04:04:16,372 --> 04:04:19,311
annually and we have worked with them on their space

1745
04:04:19,812 --> 04:04:23,471
where they house their, um, their exhibits, um, whereas I

1746
04:04:23,471 --> 04:04:26,351
don't believe the CVRD is, uh, previously provided with any

1747
04:04:26,391 --> 04:04:29,231
funding. With the Couch and Valley Historical Society, I don't

1748
04:04:29,231 --> 04:04:31,231
believe the CBRD funds them. I believe it is just

1749
04:04:31,572 --> 04:04:34,191
us and the City of Duncan, although, um, I haven't

1750
04:04:34,212 --> 04:04:37,151
checked the grants and aid from the individual electoral areas

1751
04:04:37,172 --> 04:04:39,391
and they have quite a bit of discretional word. Those,

1752
04:04:39,391 --> 04:04:42,111
there could be some severity funding involved. But to my

1753
04:04:42,151 --> 04:04:46,835
knowledge, it's never come before the board. Councilman ask. Mr.

1754
04:04:46,875 --> 04:04:50,035
Mayor. This is a question for Councillor Justice. Um, Homer

1755
04:04:50,075 --> 04:04:52,115
Space, are you looking for? Like what's do you know

1756
04:04:52,115 --> 04:04:56,373
what they're looking for. Council of Justice? I don't have

1757
04:04:56,413 --> 04:05:00,499
that information, Councilman S. Okay, so our staff can do

1758
04:05:00,499 --> 04:05:06,238
that research. Yeah. Okay. All right, it's been moved in

1759
04:05:06,238 --> 04:05:09,226
seconded. We've discussed it, ready for the question. All in

1760
04:05:09,266 --> 04:05:13,750
favor. And opposed, not opposed motion carries. We'll move on

1761
04:05:13,750 --> 04:05:20,250
to item 12. 2. Councillor Justice. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1762
04:05:20,250 --> 04:05:24,330
Um, this is an item called support for Vancouver Island

1763
04:05:24,431 --> 04:05:27,450
value added wood manufacturer strategy and the motion that I

1764
04:05:27,490 --> 04:05:30,970
would like to make that I will make is that

1765
04:05:31,231 --> 04:05:34,570
Council authorizes the mayor to write to the minister of

1766
04:05:34,671 --> 04:05:37,450
forests requesting that the province of British Columbia work in

1767
04:05:37,450 --> 04:05:40,810
partnership with local governments, First Nations, value - added wood

1768
04:05:40,850 --> 04:05:47,370
manufacturers, workers, labour organisations, educational institutes, institutions and other stakeholders

1769
04:05:47,391 --> 04:05:52,090
to develop a Vancouver Island value added wood manufacturing strategy

1770
04:05:52,991 --> 04:05:58,810
focused on increasing local manufacturing investment innovation and employment opportunities.

1771
04:05:58,810 --> 04:06:04,170
And as I read that, I believe that's not the

1772
04:06:05,071 --> 04:06:12,207
latest version of the motion. I think this was. Could

1773
04:06:12,207 --> 04:06:13,887
you help me with that? Can you go into the

1774
04:06:14,068 --> 04:06:19,250
depth of. Cause it's slightly adjusted. And I think I've

1775
04:06:19,511 --> 04:06:29,187
got. Like as the attachment and report of the correct

1776
04:06:29,208 --> 04:06:32,697
motion in it. Yes. And I've got that here. And

1777
04:06:32,798 --> 04:06:36,217
let me pull that up. Council again. We're all going

1778
04:06:36,217 --> 04:06:39,075
to have that in our agendas. All right. It's slightly

1779
04:06:39,176 --> 04:06:43,075
different. It's not much different, but it's that Council advocate

1780
04:06:43,256 --> 04:06:46,435
for the development of a Vancouver value added wood manufacturing

1781
04:06:46,536 --> 04:06:49,635
strategy and authorized the mayor to write the minister of

1782
04:06:49,736 --> 04:06:52,115
force requesting that the province of British Columbia work with

1783
04:06:52,115 --> 04:06:56,275
a local government's First Nations. Industry workers industry workers, labour

1784
04:06:56,275 --> 04:06:59,555
organisations, educational institutes and other stakeholders to develop a comprehensive

1785
04:06:59,816 --> 04:07:04,275
regional strategy that creates greater economic value from timber harvested

1786
04:07:04,296 --> 04:07:08,435
on Vancouver Island and through increased value added manufacturing investment,

1787
04:07:08,435 --> 04:07:14,717
innovation, and employment. That's the one in the report. So

1788
04:07:14,717 --> 04:07:17,077
the last page of our agenda, the record. So I

1789
04:07:17,077 --> 04:07:20,391
would move that. Is there a seconder. Second by Councillor

1790
04:07:20,492 --> 04:07:23,031
Stash. You want to speak to it first? Yes, I

1791
04:07:23,031 --> 04:07:27,123
would like to. Speak to it first. Um, so I

1792
04:07:27,123 --> 04:07:32,163
mean, the idea for this regional Vancouver value added wood

1793
04:07:32,163 --> 04:07:37,203
manufacturing strategy. Um, this came out of discussions at the

1794
04:07:37,304 --> 04:07:42,470
mill closure response working group. Um, it's pretty clear that

1795
04:07:42,571 --> 04:07:47,510
the recent milk closures and curtailments affecting operations such as

1796
04:07:47,510 --> 04:07:51,590
the craft and pop and paper mill, Western forest products,

1797
04:07:51,590 --> 04:07:56,710
Chema's and Couch and Bay sawmills have demonstrated that the,

1798
04:07:56,710 --> 04:08:01,990
uh, the vulnerability of resource dependent communities like ours and

1799
04:08:01,990 --> 04:08:05,990
reinforced the importance of, of finding ways to have strengthening

1800
04:08:07,131 --> 04:08:12,310
or long - term economic resilience. Um, one observation from

1801
04:08:12,350 --> 04:08:15,430
the working group was that although timber harvesting is still

1802
04:08:15,470 --> 04:08:19,430
occurring as we all see daily from the many loaded

1803
04:08:19,531 --> 04:08:23,190
logging trucks passing through our communities too much of the

1804
04:08:23,211 --> 04:08:28,150
Economic value created from our forests leave the island with

1805
04:08:28,171 --> 04:08:34,390
the logs rather than generating, um, jobs and investment and

1806
04:08:34,390 --> 04:08:39,549
long - term prosperity here. Um, at the same time,

1807
04:08:39,549 --> 04:08:42,669
we know that there are value - added wood manufacturers

1808
04:08:43,650 --> 04:08:47,389
on the island, including in North Cowching that are absolutely

1809
04:08:47,650 --> 04:08:52,909
thriving. Um, creating good jobs, attracting investment and generating wealth

1810
04:08:53,650 --> 04:08:56,749
within our community. So the question is the very simple

1811
04:08:56,930 --> 04:08:59,789
question is, what can we do to create better conditions

1812
04:08:59,890 --> 04:09:07,858
for more such businesses. To be born, to grow and

1813
04:09:07,858 --> 04:09:13,594
to prosper. Um, I'm certainly no expert in the industry,

1814
04:09:13,594 --> 04:09:16,913
but I do have great faith. In the knowledge and

1815
04:09:16,913 --> 04:09:21,313
the creativity of our skilled workers, of our value added

1816
04:09:21,353 --> 04:09:26,913
manufacturers of our labour organisations and of our educational institutions.

1817
04:09:26,913 --> 04:09:30,353
And I believe that if brought together for this purpose,

1818
04:09:30,353 --> 04:09:37,140
um, they could develop. A strategy. That would create better

1819
04:09:37,241 --> 04:09:41,620
conditions for more wealth to be generated here from the

1820
04:09:41,801 --> 04:09:46,998
timber. The timber being harvested here. So, you know, right?

1821
04:09:46,998 --> 04:09:49,638
Like a log can become lumber, but lumber can also

1822
04:09:50,539 --> 04:09:57,478
become engineered wood products, mass timber components, prefabricated buildings or

1823
04:09:57,478 --> 04:10:00,998
other sorts of finished products. And that with each additional

1824
04:10:01,099 --> 04:10:05,078
step, there's an opportunity for more jobs, for more investment,

1825
04:10:05,078 --> 04:10:08,758
for more wealth to be created and to remain in

1826
04:10:08,798 --> 04:10:16,045
our community. We can't, um, today know all of the

1827
04:10:16,066 --> 04:10:21,305
opportunities that, uh, are possible for the future, but, um,

1828
04:10:22,546 --> 04:10:26,685
I think that we can identify some of the barriers

1829
04:10:26,706 --> 04:10:33,405
to, um, their creation and invention. Um, so I know

1830
04:10:33,445 --> 04:10:35,165
some of you would worry about this, but this is

1831
04:10:35,346 --> 04:10:38,605
certainly not about government picking winners or trying to overcome.

1832
04:10:39,400 --> 04:10:42,339
Market forces. It's really about creating conditions that make it

1833
04:10:42,840 --> 04:10:50,962
easier for value added wood. Businesses to succeed. And I

1834
04:10:50,962 --> 04:10:54,802
would also say that the objective of this, um, is

1835
04:10:54,823 --> 04:10:59,362
not necessarily to harvest more timber. It's really to create

1836
04:10:59,463 --> 04:11:04,002
more economic value from the timber that is already being

1837
04:11:04,263 --> 04:11:08,132
harvested. I say that we're not necessarily. It doesn't preclude

1838
04:11:08,132 --> 04:11:11,924
that. But this is about creating more value from the

1839
04:11:12,025 --> 04:11:18,125
timber already being harvested here. Given the deep forest history

1840
04:11:18,165 --> 04:11:23,645
of communities across Vancouver Island, a regional strategy makes sense.

1841
04:11:23,645 --> 04:11:26,045
North Cowch and also is a great position to provide

1842
04:11:26,626 --> 04:11:30,685
leadership on such a strategy. We have workers, businesses, educational

1843
04:11:30,725 --> 04:11:34,605
institutions and First Nations with lots of deep knowledge and

1844
04:11:34,645 --> 04:11:42,585
experience that could contribute to a strategy like this. I

1845
04:11:42,585 --> 04:11:47,785
guess, you know, for generations forestry has been the lifeblood

1846
04:11:47,966 --> 04:11:52,085
of this community and many other Vancouver Island communities, but

1847
04:11:52,085 --> 04:11:54,265
I think the challenge now is to imagine the next

1848
04:11:55,086 --> 04:12:00,265
chapter of that industry one that's more diverse, innovative and

1849
04:12:00,286 --> 04:12:05,368
resilient. So the other concern I would anticipate here is

1850
04:12:05,408 --> 04:12:08,488
that this is well beyond the rule and capacity of

1851
04:12:08,989 --> 04:12:13,608
a municipal government. But advocating for something like this to

1852
04:12:13,648 --> 04:12:18,728
happen is certainly in alignment with North Cowching's strategic plan.

1853
04:12:18,728 --> 04:12:21,128
So just in closing, I believe this is an idea

1854
04:12:21,389 --> 04:12:27,390
with supporting. And worth encouraging the province to pursue. Thank

1855
04:12:27,430 --> 04:12:36,126
you. Councillor Stache. Thanks Mayor. Just when you talk about

1856
04:12:36,627 --> 04:12:38,686
subject matter like this just makes me think of my

1857
04:12:39,587 --> 04:12:42,286
two decades in oil industry, the most successful companies were

1858
04:12:42,286 --> 04:12:45,166
companies that were and still are and improving the most

1859
04:12:45,206 --> 04:12:49,019
successful now are vertically iterated. They are in through the

1860
04:12:49,019 --> 04:12:53,099
whole process and, uh, they're utilising that resource along a

1861
04:12:53,099 --> 04:12:54,859
longer spectrum and more time. So if we look at

1862
04:12:54,859 --> 04:12:58,139
that for the forestry industry here and we get more

1863
04:12:58,480 --> 04:13:03,819
hands on every cubic metre of lumber rather than just

1864
04:13:03,920 --> 04:13:06,119
initial touch of cutting it and leaving, if we can

1865
04:13:06,119 --> 04:13:08,539
get more people touching it along the process and then

1866
04:13:08,539 --> 04:13:13,819
that manufacturing side, it's an absolute success. And, uh, it

1867
04:13:13,819 --> 04:13:17,259
could be the point where you're generating more jobs, more

1868
04:13:17,259 --> 04:13:20,459
revenue and more value add within the community while not

1869
04:13:20,560 --> 04:13:23,499
needing to harvest even more lumber. You might even be

1870
04:13:23,499 --> 04:13:26,379
able to harvest less on the island, but yet be

1871
04:13:26,379 --> 04:13:29,499
generating more revenue and more income. And then we would

1872
04:13:29,539 --> 04:13:33,419
be also saving money on the hindsight of possibly we'd

1873
04:13:33,419 --> 04:13:35,979
be looking at more intact watersheds. And we could look

1874
04:13:35,979 --> 04:13:41,179
at areas that aren't so susceptible to, uh, environmental damage.

1875
04:13:41,179 --> 04:13:44,219
So the wins in this, uh, as you said, we're

1876
04:13:44,259 --> 04:13:46,059
not expert at this table. It's not for us to

1877
04:13:46,059 --> 04:13:48,219
figure it out. So full support of it. But my

1878
04:13:48,240 --> 04:13:52,299
question was, um, I'm trying to recall what our hopes

1879
04:13:52,339 --> 04:13:54,859
were at UBCM, which ministers we were in and I

1880
04:13:54,859 --> 04:13:56,779
was wondering if the minister force was one of the

1881
04:13:57,280 --> 04:14:00,619
meetings we were hoping to get during the conference. Yeah.

1882
04:14:00,619 --> 04:14:02,779
We have put in the request. Um, I don't believe

1883
04:14:03,120 --> 04:14:06,219
staff have confirmation yet in terms of, uh, who are

1884
04:14:06,259 --> 04:14:07,579
meeting with. I think there was about a half dozen

1885
04:14:07,600 --> 04:14:10,459
requests. We submitted. So we should be getting word on

1886
04:14:10,459 --> 04:14:13,579
that, uh, pretty soon. Hopefully we have had success in

1887
04:14:13,619 --> 04:14:16,459
getting a meeting with the forest minister in the past.

1888
04:14:16,459 --> 04:14:19,659
Hopefully we do this time as well. In light of

1889
04:14:19,699 --> 04:14:21,739
this just to say this would be kind of front

1890
04:14:21,760 --> 04:14:24,059
and centre in my thought would be the one to

1891
04:14:24,099 --> 04:14:27,019
it. And, uh, definitely a lot of networking. It's good

1892
04:14:27,019 --> 04:14:32,779
timing. If hopefully Council sees the Meriden supporting this unanimously.

1893
04:14:32,779 --> 04:14:35,179
And that's UBCM would be a good networking opportunity with

1894
04:14:35,219 --> 04:14:43,399
other island community officials and staff. Thanks Councillor Stash. Councillor

1895
04:14:43,439 --> 04:14:46,334
Finley. Thanks Mr. Mayor. I'm one of the things about

1896
04:14:46,355 --> 04:14:49,054
being at this seat for almost four years is I've

1897
04:14:49,054 --> 04:14:51,774
learned so much about forestry that I never thought I

1898
04:14:51,814 --> 04:14:55,054
would learn. And it's been, it's been fascinating and interesting.

1899
04:14:55,054 --> 04:14:57,934
Um, the issue I have with this motion is that

1900
04:14:58,115 --> 04:15:01,694
it treats more value added manufacturing and less log exports

1901
04:15:02,035 --> 04:15:06,014
as almost synonymous with more prosperity, uh, and force your

1902
04:15:06,054 --> 04:15:11,197
economics as we understand is considerably more complicated. The biggest

1903
04:15:11,458 --> 04:15:14,317
issue I see with motion is that there's no distinction

1904
04:15:14,338 --> 04:15:19,080
between economically viable logs in uneconomic fibre. Just because a

1905
04:15:19,080 --> 04:15:21,480
log is processed locally does not make it automatically more

1906
04:15:21,501 --> 04:15:25,113
valuable. It really comes down to species size grade and

1907
04:15:25,113 --> 04:15:29,353
all the costs associated with harvesting with the harvesting location.

1908
04:15:29,353 --> 04:15:34,500
Transportation to markets, local mill technology and availability. And the

1909
04:15:34,500 --> 04:15:38,299
available market for that log. And implying the value added

1910
04:15:38,640 --> 04:15:41,019
manufacturing is a solution to mill closures is a pretty

1911
04:15:41,040 --> 04:15:44,059
casual leap. Part of the issue is that if a

1912
04:15:44,059 --> 04:15:48,299
new secondary manufacturer receives fibre that would otherwise supply sawmill.

1913
04:15:48,299 --> 04:15:51,719
And that sawmill loses the ability to operate economically. The

1914
04:15:51,840 --> 04:15:56,152
region hasn't actually necessarily created more value at all. Biggest

1915
04:15:56,152 --> 04:15:59,432
issue with our forestry sector is that our timber supply

1916
04:15:59,472 --> 04:16:03,432
is constrained by deliberate provincial policy choices. And asking the

1917
04:16:03,432 --> 04:16:06,312
province to then champion an island value add strategy flies

1918
04:16:06,333 --> 04:16:09,315
in the face of current provincial policy. And the current

1919
04:16:09,416 --> 04:16:13,679
supply issues are mills are facing. Ronald Reagan said it

1920
04:16:13,679 --> 04:16:17,405
best. I'm quoting a president. This is fun. But an

1921
04:16:17,445 --> 04:16:20,285
older president. The scariest nine words. Not the current president.

1922
04:16:20,306 --> 04:16:23,005
Not the current president. The scariest nine words in English

1923
04:16:23,005 --> 04:16:24,925
language are I'm from the government and I'm here to

1924
04:16:24,925 --> 04:16:27,967
help. He used the phrase to express his view that

1925
04:16:27,988 --> 04:16:31,567
government intervention often hinders rather than helps individual freedom and

1926
04:16:31,567 --> 04:16:35,507
problem solving. If we truly wanted an economically viable forest

1927
04:16:35,507 --> 04:16:37,907
industry here in North Couch, non Vancouver Island. We should

1928
04:16:37,928 --> 04:16:40,947
allow me the province to fast track timber license permitting.

1929
04:16:41,409 --> 04:16:44,907
Which obviously provides more supply to our mills. And then

1930
04:16:45,008 --> 04:16:49,147
potentially evaluated manufacturing thereafter, uh, we should be lobbying the

1931
04:16:49,187 --> 04:16:51,067
feds to cut the deal on tariffs. Hopefully that's going

1932
04:16:51,067 --> 04:16:52,907
to happen this week. And then get out of the

1933
04:16:52,947 --> 04:16:55,867
way and let this industry do what it's always done,

1934
04:16:55,867 --> 04:16:58,187
which is providing great timber products locally into the world

1935
04:16:59,248 --> 04:17:04,218
while creating and maintaining fantastic local hyping jobs. As muddying

1936
04:17:04,218 --> 04:17:08,018
the waters will hinder that private sector drive. I support

1937
04:17:08,058 --> 04:17:10,498
our forestry, I support our force shoe workers, all of

1938
04:17:10,498 --> 04:17:14,018
them, including those who work at all the harvesting, trucking,

1939
04:17:14,058 --> 04:17:18,638
milling, value ad and shipping jobs. And I support pressuring

1940
04:17:18,638 --> 04:17:21,918
the province to speed up license permanents as fast as

1941
04:17:21,958 --> 04:17:24,638
possible. But I don't think I can support this motion

1942
04:17:24,739 --> 04:17:31,536
as it's written. Thanks. Thanks Councillor Hog. Thank you. Thank

1943
04:17:31,536 --> 04:17:35,225
you for bringing this motion forward. We've seen these meals

1944
04:17:35,265 --> 04:17:37,125
been shut down for a long time now. And, um,

1945
04:17:38,526 --> 04:17:41,065
there hasn't been really much moving at all. And this

1946
04:17:41,105 --> 04:17:44,985
motion here, it is bringing forward some kind of ideas.

1947
04:17:44,985 --> 04:17:50,265
We're advocating four forests for workers, uh, it's not perfect.

1948
04:17:50,265 --> 04:17:52,905
But it is at least giving a little bit of

1949
04:17:52,945 --> 04:17:56,345
hope and, um, I think pressuring of any sort to

1950
04:17:56,345 --> 04:17:58,745
the government for our sector is what we need to

1951
04:17:58,745 --> 04:18:00,805
do at this time. And if that's what we can

1952
04:18:00,805 --> 04:18:02,425
do sitting here at the table, then I'm in support

1953
04:18:02,425 --> 04:18:07,145
of it. All right. I'm going to jump in now.

1954
04:18:08,687 --> 04:18:12,506
I will add as well that our last, uh, Milk

1955
04:18:12,527 --> 04:18:16,026
Clish Response word meeting in July. One of the assistant

1956
04:18:16,047 --> 04:18:18,666
deputy ministers from the Ministry of Forest did attend that

1957
04:18:18,706 --> 04:18:20,826
meeting. So was able to answer some of the questions

1958
04:18:21,167 --> 04:18:25,146
and concerns. We raising over the previous months. And I

1959
04:18:25,186 --> 04:18:27,626
could say we got all the answers we wanted in

1960
04:18:27,647 --> 04:18:31,362
that discussion, but did appreciate the opportunity for that. Face

1961
04:18:31,402 --> 04:18:34,002
- to - face interaction in terms of the concerns

1962
04:18:34,023 --> 04:18:35,842
we've been raising it at this table and at that

1963
04:18:35,863 --> 04:18:41,442
working group. However, um, the citizen epidemister from the Ministry

1964
04:18:41,442 --> 04:18:44,562
of Forest, um, we did discuss this particular proposal as

1965
04:18:44,562 --> 04:18:47,842
it had been, um, as Council Justice had given notice

1966
04:18:47,882 --> 04:18:50,562
of it prior to that meeting. And there was interest

1967
04:18:50,823 --> 04:18:54,802
from that, uh, ADM and in working with us on

1968
04:18:54,903 --> 04:18:58,302
a island - wide forestry strategy. Obviously, that would, um,

1969
04:18:59,303 --> 04:19:02,602
there'd be a forest ministry himself, probably have to, to

1970
04:19:02,602 --> 04:19:04,402
make the ultimate decision on that. But it was good

1971
04:19:04,442 --> 04:19:06,642
to see at the staff level that there was at

1972
04:19:06,642 --> 04:19:09,522
least an interest with us, sorry, an interest in working

1973
04:19:09,522 --> 04:19:14,073
with us to explore this further. So as Council Members,

1974
04:19:14,073 --> 04:19:16,233
the public are well aware of the forest industry right

1975
04:19:16,254 --> 04:19:19,673
across British Columbia right now is in rough shape and

1976
04:19:19,673 --> 04:19:23,033
communities across the province, feeling the effects of mill closures

1977
04:19:23,294 --> 04:19:26,873
and extended curtailments. And the clear example of that in

1978
04:19:26,873 --> 04:19:29,513
here in North Couch. And the Croft and Paul Mill

1979
04:19:29,774 --> 04:19:33,193
is closed. The Shimane Assamil has been under an extended

1980
04:19:33,294 --> 04:19:37,193
retailment since last summer. And the Couch and Baymil is

1981
04:19:37,233 --> 04:19:40,313
currently down and that'll continue into the fall. This has

1982
04:19:40,353 --> 04:19:43,033
meant hundreds of jobs lost or in jeopardy, a significant

1983
04:19:43,073 --> 04:19:45,913
impact on our industrial tax base and increasing pressure on

1984
04:19:45,913 --> 04:19:49,753
the contractors, the small businesses that depend on the Economic

1985
04:19:49,774 --> 04:19:53,513
Activity Generator from these sites. And the opinions out there

1986
04:19:53,513 --> 04:19:55,673
on how we got there, ranging from the lack of

1987
04:19:55,713 --> 04:19:59,493
a soft little lumber agreement to provincial fibre policies. For

1988
04:19:59,493 --> 04:20:02,713
many Canadian producers, the combination of tariffs and trade duties,

1989
04:20:02,713 --> 04:20:08,233
uh, thanks to President Donald Trump is now approaching an

1990
04:20:08,233 --> 04:20:12,853
enormous cost on an industry already under immense pressure. And

1991
04:20:12,974 --> 04:20:14,953
we could, we could spend our time right now debating

1992
04:20:14,993 --> 04:20:18,393
who's responsible. My VR job is local leaders is to

1993
04:20:18,393 --> 04:20:22,633
focus on constructive solutions and ask how we can actually

1994
04:20:22,654 --> 04:20:26,373
do right now to strengthen our, our forestry sector, not

1995
04:20:26,373 --> 04:20:29,253
just here in North Coucher, but across Vancouver Island. And

1996
04:20:29,253 --> 04:20:31,913
we need to ask ourselves whether we're getting full economic

1997
04:20:31,934 --> 04:20:35,273
benefit from the forests we harvest on Vancouver Island. It's

1998
04:20:35,313 --> 04:20:38,473
difficult to reconcile having mills closed down because the fibre

1999
04:20:38,574 --> 04:20:42,073
shortages will raw logs are still being exported from facilities

2000
04:20:42,174 --> 04:20:45,593
right here in North Couch. And our focus right now,

2001
04:20:45,593 --> 04:20:47,033
in my view, should be on finding ways that we

2002
04:20:47,054 --> 04:20:50,073
can work together to create the right conditions where it

2003
04:20:50,073 --> 04:20:54,553
makes more sense to manufacture our logs locally here on

2004
04:20:54,553 --> 04:20:57,553
the island rather than exporting them to markets. And the

2005
04:20:57,553 --> 04:21:01,753
United States Japan China, South Korea, our other overseas markets.

2006
04:21:02,095 --> 04:21:05,634
And whether it's through engineered wood products, mass timber, or

2007
04:21:05,634 --> 04:21:08,554
prefabricated building components, we have a real opportunity to keep

2008
04:21:08,554 --> 04:21:12,374
that value at home, securing skill jobs, more investment, and

2009
04:21:12,495 --> 04:21:15,652
a resilient local economy right here on Vancouver Island. Obviously

2010
04:21:15,993 --> 04:21:18,372
North Couch and Can't Create such a strategy on its

2011
04:21:18,412 --> 04:21:20,932
own, but we can use our voice task. The problems

2012
04:21:20,932 --> 04:21:25,152
to bring together local governments, First Nations, industry, workers, and

2013
04:21:25,152 --> 04:21:28,810
educational institutions to develop one. Forestry has been part of

2014
04:21:28,911 --> 04:21:32,010
identity for generations and will continue to be vital to

2015
04:21:32,010 --> 04:21:35,290
our future. Moving this proposal forward is about building on

2016
04:21:35,290 --> 04:21:38,970
that foundation to create more value from our resource before

2017
04:21:38,991 --> 04:21:42,370
it leaves the island. There's a constructing step forward. It

2018
04:21:42,370 --> 04:21:44,330
asks the province to work with the people who understand

2019
04:21:44,351 --> 04:21:47,290
this industry and unlock more value, more investment, and more

2020
04:21:47,391 --> 04:21:51,416
employment from the forests on Vancouver Island. So I hope

2021
04:21:51,437 --> 04:21:53,976
Council will support the motion and ideally we could bring

2022
04:21:54,157 --> 04:21:56,616
this up and our, if we can get a meeting

2023
04:21:56,656 --> 04:21:59,736
with the forest minister at Union of East Municipalities Convention

2024
04:21:59,736 --> 04:22:03,182
next month. There's nothing else to add all. Call the

2025
04:22:03,182 --> 04:22:07,088
question then. All in favor. And oppose Councillor Finley opposed

2026
04:22:07,269 --> 04:22:10,288
motion carries. All right, we've got to notice a motion

2027
04:22:10,328 --> 04:22:12,928
from Councillor Stash. It's not going to be debated until

2028
04:22:12,949 --> 04:22:15,974
the September 2nd meeting. Would you like to read it

2029
04:22:15,974 --> 04:22:18,774
out Councillor Stache or wait for the September 2nd meeting.

2030
04:22:19,926 --> 04:22:23,816
All right. Okay. We'll now move on to question period.

2031
04:22:23,816 --> 04:22:27,176
I'll ask if they're, Oh, sorry. Of course. Yeah. Yeah.

2032
04:22:27,197 --> 04:22:29,416
There's three items under new business. Thanks for catching that.

2033
04:22:29,497 --> 04:22:34,196
So we'll go back to the, uh, consent agenda. We've

2034
04:22:34,236 --> 04:22:39,299
got item 4. 2. 5 counts for stash. Thanks, Mayor.

2035
04:22:39,299 --> 04:22:44,979
Um, my hope is that, uh, Councilwood support you writing

2036
04:22:45,000 --> 04:22:48,739
a similar letter. Um, supporting and requesting the continuation of

2037
04:22:48,920 --> 04:22:52,499
the local government climate action program funding. And the reason

2038
04:22:52,539 --> 04:22:54,819
I say that is I look at, uh, as we'd

2039
04:22:54,819 --> 04:22:59,299
heard from public input, uh, our climate action energy plan

2040
04:22:59,400 --> 04:23:03,379
has been extremely successful for the last 14 years. And,

2041
04:23:03,379 --> 04:23:06,079
uh, we see the benefits every day in that, uh,

2042
04:23:06,760 --> 04:23:10,179
of all the programs that are in place. And part

2043
04:23:10,219 --> 04:23:14,019
of the reason our cape is so successful is that

2044
04:23:14,840 --> 04:23:20,399
it's a very clear, concise and results proven plan. That

2045
04:23:20,439 --> 04:23:24,559
allows us to get, uh, this program funding from the

2046
04:23:24,660 --> 04:23:27,439
provincial government easily because they see that we already have

2047
04:23:27,620 --> 04:23:29,679
a plan and place to execute the funds from the

2048
04:23:29,780 --> 04:23:32,719
higher level of government, an efficient manner. So what it

2049
04:23:32,719 --> 04:23:35,919
helps us, uh, getting these grants. And then those grants

2050
04:23:35,959 --> 04:23:39,359
are leveraged because we have the cape. I'd like to

2051
04:23:39,359 --> 04:23:42,159
see our climate action energy plan continue to be as

2052
04:23:42,199 --> 04:23:45,679
successful as possible. And I think utilising this provincial program

2053
04:23:46,100 --> 04:23:48,879
funding source helps make that possible. And I think we

2054
04:23:48,919 --> 04:23:53,199
should really urge the provincial government do that. Especially with

2055
04:23:53,460 --> 04:23:55,839
light out of how we've looked at our terms of

2056
04:23:55,879 --> 04:24:00,239
reference. And our utilising it this year, um, I don't

2057
04:24:00,279 --> 04:24:02,159
think as a waste and I don't think it's a

2058
04:24:02,180 --> 04:24:06,479
slush fund when we consider wildfire mitigation and a wildfire

2059
04:24:06,519 --> 04:24:09,959
strategy in a wildfire specialist in North Cowching. I think

2060
04:24:09,959 --> 04:24:14,319
that's sensible climate action work. And especially when one of

2061
04:24:14,319 --> 04:24:15,839
the letters here, as I said, there was three of

2062
04:24:15,839 --> 04:24:18,799
them, but, uh, when you look at a community like

2063
04:24:18,839 --> 04:24:21,679
the Regional District of the Okanagan saying, please don't take

2064
04:24:21,860 --> 04:24:25,259
this away as they're being, um, most impacted in the

2065
04:24:25,259 --> 04:24:28,159
province continually year after year by wildfire, which is one

2066
04:24:28,159 --> 04:24:31,919
of the things we see for, uh, result of us

2067
04:24:31,940 --> 04:24:35,119
needing to take more, uh, extensive climate action. So I

2068
04:24:35,119 --> 04:24:37,679
hope we have council support to support you writing a

2069
04:24:37,679 --> 04:24:40,319
letter to the province to make sure that North Couch

2070
04:24:40,340 --> 04:24:44,188
and comedic schools, uh, consistent, predictable funding. You want to

2071
04:24:44,188 --> 04:24:46,348
move that authorized me to write the letter? Yes, I

2072
04:24:46,348 --> 04:24:47,988
would. So it's moved. Is there a second or second

2073
04:24:48,028 --> 04:24:50,308
by Council Justice? Any discussion? Are we want to call

2074
04:24:50,348 --> 04:24:54,522
the question. Call the question then all in favor. And

2075
04:24:54,562 --> 04:24:58,408
oppose. Now, a pose motion carries. We'll now move on

2076
04:24:58,429 --> 04:25:02,068
to item 4. 2. 9. So I pulled this, uh,

2077
04:25:02,189 --> 04:25:06,408
this is a request from Makola Housing Society to support

2078
04:25:06,909 --> 04:25:12,468
the every child matters events scheduled for September 2026. Um,

2079
04:25:12,468 --> 04:25:16,248
I don't believe there was a amount in their requests,

2080
04:25:16,248 --> 04:25:20,568
but I would suggest we consider, um, authorizing staff to

2081
04:25:20,589 --> 04:25:22,728
provide a grant, um, up to the amount that we

2082
04:25:22,749 --> 04:25:26,657
provided in 2025. Yeah. You want to move that move

2083
04:25:26,697 --> 04:25:36,689
by Councillor Stash. Yeah. I don't have the amount

2084
04:25:36,950 --> 04:25:39,996
of. Money. I mean, we do have a budget for

2085
04:25:40,097 --> 04:25:42,636
First Nations partnerships. It would have been drawn from there.

2086
04:25:42,636 --> 04:25:44,396
Yeah. I was going to ask if you want Ms.

2087
04:25:44,417 --> 04:25:46,156
Better to let you know how much money you have.

2088
04:25:47,253 --> 04:25:48,992
Yeah. Ms. Vetter, are you aware of how much we

2089
04:25:49,013 --> 04:25:52,112
provided in terms of a grant for the everchells child

2090
04:25:52,133 --> 04:25:59,429
matters. Events, um, in 2025. Uh, I believe it was

2091
04:26:00,330 --> 04:26:04,004
three. So how about we authorized a grant for up

2092
04:26:04,025 --> 04:26:08,738
to three, 000 dollars. How much. Money is in the.

2093
04:26:11,259 --> 04:26:15,238
I think it's the indigenous partnerships fun, which we continued

2094
04:26:15,238 --> 04:26:17,860
for this year. Are you asking how much you have

2095
04:26:17,961 --> 04:26:21,284
remaining? Yeah. How much we have remaining right now. Uh,

2096
04:26:21,465 --> 04:26:26,143
roughly 16, 000 dollars. All right. There's enough in there.

2097
04:26:29,677 --> 04:26:31,956
All right. So it's been moved in seconded, but, um,

2098
04:26:31,956 --> 04:26:33,416
I'll turn the corporate officer. Can we take that as

2099
04:26:33,456 --> 04:26:35,736
a friendly amendment just to include the 3000 figure in

2100
04:26:35,776 --> 04:26:39,994
there? Okay. Mr. Mayor, just, just in case it's 3,

2101
04:26:40,015 --> 04:26:43,194
500, uh, I would say up to the amount that

2102
04:26:43,234 --> 04:26:50,100
was provided last year. All right. Does that work for

2103
04:26:50,140 --> 04:26:52,887
everyone? All right. I'll call the question then. Oh, sorry,

2104
04:26:52,887 --> 04:26:58,642
Councillor Finley, jump in. One of the comments and the

2105
04:26:58,642 --> 04:27:02,242
letter from, I believe it was Miss George. Yes, from

2106
04:27:02,242 --> 04:27:04,482
Audrey George. Audrey George. Was that, uh, they hadn't heard

2107
04:27:04,522 --> 04:27:06,802
back from any funders to date. And if they don't

2108
04:27:07,383 --> 04:27:10,242
receive enough funding, can we ensure that they have other

2109
04:27:10,263 --> 04:27:15,754
funders as well? If you understand what I mean. Do

2110
04:27:15,794 --> 04:27:17,611
we want to cut the check. And then they don't

2111
04:27:17,611 --> 04:27:19,611
get the rest of funding? Will we receive the funds

2112
04:27:19,651 --> 04:27:22,303
back if it doesn't happen is the question. Yeah. I

2113
04:27:22,303 --> 04:27:24,383
would assume if the event doesn't happen, we'll get the

2114
04:27:24,404 --> 04:27:26,543
check back. I mean, that was what happened with the,

2115
04:27:26,543 --> 04:27:29,663
uh, Duncan Day's parade. We provided the grant when it

2116
04:27:29,663 --> 04:27:33,067
didn't move forward. Receive the money back. Yeah, I'm seeing

2117
04:27:33,107 --> 04:27:35,433
nodding from staff. All right. Can I call the question

2118
04:27:35,454 --> 04:27:38,932
then? All in favor. And opposed and opposed motion carries.

2119
04:27:40,268 --> 04:27:43,087
We'll now move on to item 4. 2. 11. So

2120
04:27:43,087 --> 04:27:46,647
I, uh, I pulled this, uh, this item. So we

2121
04:27:46,988 --> 04:27:51,207
received correspondence from this group and view royal. And what

2122
04:27:51,388 --> 04:27:55,687
they're suggesting is that, um, as the province is introduced,

2123
04:27:55,687 --> 04:27:59,767
uh, Bill 44, um, the current building code. For many

2124
04:27:59,767 --> 04:28:02,247
cases, it makes more sense for developers to tear down

2125
04:28:02,287 --> 04:28:05,847
some of these existing structures rather than to renovate and

2126
04:28:05,868 --> 04:28:09,607
repurpose them for additional density. So the, um, this group

2127
04:28:09,647 --> 04:28:12,407
has, uh, made the case that the, the province should

2128
04:28:12,748 --> 04:28:15,687
look at making changes to the, uh, the building code

2129
04:28:15,868 --> 04:28:18,647
to make it, uh, easier to repurpose some of these

2130
04:28:18,748 --> 04:28:23,767
existing buildings. And they've cited, um, affordability in terms of

2131
04:28:23,948 --> 04:28:28,567
the construction costs, greater retention of tree coverage and some

2132
04:28:28,567 --> 04:28:32,247
of these properties, uh, helpful and meeting are some of

2133
04:28:32,247 --> 04:28:35,105
our climate objectives. You know, I don't have the expertise

2134
04:28:35,206 --> 04:28:37,905
to endorse this, this proposal, but I think it is

2135
04:28:37,926 --> 04:28:40,465
worth exploring. And I wondered if Councilwood would be interested

2136
04:28:40,486 --> 04:28:43,825
in authorize immediately to write a letter to the province

2137
04:28:44,086 --> 04:28:46,765
encouraging them to give a close look at this, uh,

2138
04:28:46,765 --> 04:28:49,321
proposal and see if it could be viable. But it

2139
04:28:49,321 --> 04:28:52,161
is, uh, topic that's come up several times recently. We

2140
04:28:52,222 --> 04:28:55,881
just received a presentation at our last, um, last meeting

2141
04:28:55,902 --> 04:28:59,241
from, uh, one of our local residents who is advocating

2142
04:28:59,281 --> 04:29:01,641
for changes to the building code to make it easier

2143
04:29:01,742 --> 04:29:06,441
to retrofit existing buildings. And then, uh, earlier this year,

2144
04:29:06,441 --> 04:29:09,681
we did send the letter to the province and I

2145
04:29:09,681 --> 04:29:11,241
in the house with regards to the purposing of the

2146
04:29:11,502 --> 04:29:20,850
existing outros. We'll turn to Council. Thoughts. Councillor Stache. I

2147
04:29:20,850 --> 04:29:23,130
think it's a great idea. And that's why I think

2148
04:29:23,170 --> 04:29:25,850
I had asked you or was someone else on Council.

2149
04:29:25,850 --> 04:29:27,130
And I, we got this email and we had the

2150
04:29:27,130 --> 04:29:29,610
presentation at the same time when I was wondering how

2151
04:29:29,951 --> 04:29:32,570
they're linked. But the stats show that it just really

2152
04:29:32,671 --> 04:29:35,210
makes so much sense from if we're going to talk

2153
04:29:35,210 --> 04:29:41,050
about, you know, the, you know, emissions and waste is

2154
04:29:41,050 --> 04:29:43,910
already captured in the building and the energy savings. And

2155
04:29:43,910 --> 04:29:48,070
of course absolutely cost savings. Um, so having special, uh,

2156
04:29:49,311 --> 04:29:52,570
policies that support this, I see no problem with it.

2157
04:29:53,982 --> 04:29:57,621
Councillor Finley. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. You know I'm all about

2158
04:29:57,642 --> 04:30:01,221
repurposing. Um, that's what I've done for 30 years. This,

2159
04:30:01,261 --> 04:30:04,501
this is a bit convoluted in my opinion because it

2160
04:30:04,501 --> 04:30:07,541
really talks about, you know, three bedroom, four bedroom houses

2161
04:30:07,541 --> 04:30:11,381
that's occupied by two people. That seems to be one

2162
04:30:11,381 --> 04:30:14,261
of the core tenants in here. And, you know, I

2163
04:30:14,261 --> 04:30:16,741
mean, if that's saying, Hey, we can convert this to

2164
04:30:16,922 --> 04:30:19,701
a sweet insight to house. And I mean, we're all

2165
04:30:19,701 --> 04:30:22,501
for that anyway, if it meets, you know, our needs

2166
04:30:22,541 --> 04:30:25,781
locally. I have zero interest in dropping a building if

2167
04:30:25,781 --> 04:30:29,454
we don't have to drop a building. All about repurposing.

2168
04:30:29,454 --> 04:30:32,094
But it's just, it's just a convoluted letter in my,

2169
04:30:32,094 --> 04:30:35,214
in my view. And I'm, you know, it's tying in

2170
04:30:36,195 --> 04:30:41,934
circular economy to emissions to, you know, providing, uh, potentially

2171
04:30:42,275 --> 04:30:45,534
obviously an option for maybe seniors to, to convert their

2172
04:30:45,574 --> 04:30:48,789
houses. But I'm just. I'm wary on it. I just,

2173
04:30:48,789 --> 04:30:50,789
I don't like how it's, it's worded in all these

2174
04:30:50,829 --> 04:30:53,909
different things being jammed into one, one letter. So I'm

2175
04:30:53,949 --> 04:30:56,449
a little, I'd say confused. It's not our word, but

2176
04:30:56,449 --> 04:30:58,309
I just don't like how it's written. You know, I

2177
04:30:58,309 --> 04:31:00,229
hear what you're saying. Councillor family and my thinking was

2178
04:31:00,970 --> 04:31:03,829
to write something fairly straightforward and simple and just suggest

2179
04:31:03,829 --> 04:31:06,709
the province. Hey, we received this proposal. We think it's

2180
04:31:06,730 --> 04:31:08,869
worth exploring and the couragem to take a look at

2181
04:31:08,869 --> 04:31:11,349
it without necessarily getting into the nuance of all the

2182
04:31:11,389 --> 04:31:17,678
different arguments that are presented on. It. I'm in favor

2183
04:31:17,718 --> 04:31:20,158
of that. Um, I'm in favor of also amending the

2184
04:31:20,179 --> 04:31:22,238
Strata property Act to make it easier to convert all

2185
04:31:22,238 --> 04:31:24,958
the buildings as well. So I think if we can,

2186
04:31:24,958 --> 04:31:27,198
you know, utilising a skill set like Mr. Iverson has

2187
04:31:27,219 --> 04:31:29,758
and talking about all the different ways to, uh, to

2188
04:31:29,779 --> 04:31:37,342
repurpose buildings. What you're suggesting. Councillor Manasse and then do

2189
04:31:37,342 --> 04:31:41,459
you have your hand up Council Justice? Oh, okay. Oh,

2190
04:31:41,459 --> 04:31:43,219
look Councilman asked Wayne and I'll let you move it.

2191
04:31:43,320 --> 04:31:47,379
I do support this. I'm not sure how receptive the

2192
04:31:47,400 --> 04:31:49,459
Prince of government's going to be. Errors, you know, we

2193
04:31:49,459 --> 04:31:52,259
got a 60 year old building here that they've got

2194
04:31:52,259 --> 04:31:53,779
its past is useful life. So I'm not sure how

2195
04:31:53,800 --> 04:31:57,586
far the government's going to go. You want to move

2196
04:31:57,586 --> 04:31:59,666
it then? So authorize metre write a letter to the

2197
04:31:59,666 --> 04:32:02,706
province, encourage them to explore changes the building code to

2198
04:32:02,727 --> 04:32:06,655
support the concept as outline in this proposal. Moved. All

2199
04:32:06,655 --> 04:32:08,115
right. Is there a second or second of my councillor

2200
04:32:08,136 --> 04:32:11,338
stash? Can I call the question? All in favor. And

2201
04:32:11,338 --> 04:32:15,524
oppose and oppose motion carries. All right. So that concludes

2202
04:32:16,505 --> 04:32:19,364
new business. We can now move on to question period.

2203
04:32:19,364 --> 04:32:21,204
Are there any members of the public would like to

2204
04:32:21,225 --> 04:32:24,164
step forward to the podium with a question for Council.

2205
04:32:25,193 --> 04:32:35,021
Yeah. Please, Sir Rustlin and Slawin. Mr. Rustin, we did

2206
04:32:35,021 --> 04:32:38,101
just, um, pass an amendment to our procedure bylaws. So

2207
04:32:38,101 --> 04:32:41,181
we had a, we had the 32nd cutoff requestions. It's

2208
04:32:41,181 --> 04:32:45,098
now one minute. So you still got to be concise,

2209
04:32:45,098 --> 04:32:46,758
but you're going to have a little bit more, uh,

2210
04:32:46,799 --> 04:32:50,462
time to. Thank you worship. I'll be very brief. Uh,

2211
04:32:50,983 --> 04:32:56,322
packaging this together, the value added, uh, would manufacturing the

2212
04:32:56,362 --> 04:33:00,242
co - op and the density to demolition all X1

2213
04:33:00,263 --> 04:33:04,802
ideas, all things that our economic development committee can help

2214
04:33:05,783 --> 04:33:08,962
thinking ahead, not Frontier ideas like chopping down all the

2215
04:33:09,002 --> 04:33:14,062
trees because most that's a dying industry to me. But

2216
04:33:14,183 --> 04:33:17,042
we can move ahead with value edit. And that means

2217
04:33:17,383 --> 04:33:20,642
banning the raw log exports because that ship's jobs over

2218
04:33:20,983 --> 04:33:26,242
somewhere else. Um, archives, um, they're now, uh, it was

2219
04:33:26,282 --> 04:33:30,002
not mentioned. Those archives are now in the third flora

2220
04:33:30,023 --> 04:33:34,242
City Hall Duncan. And my three ideas I had is

2221
04:33:34,903 --> 04:33:40,322
possibly space at the forest museum, uh, possibly, um, in

2222
04:33:40,423 --> 04:33:44,162
a, one of the homes that is slated for demolition,

2223
04:33:44,162 --> 04:33:47,282
uh, like over around York Road, you buy the house,

2224
04:33:47,282 --> 04:33:50,679
you put the archives in. Or the round building. Duncan.

2225
04:33:50,679 --> 04:33:53,159
Oh, Mr. Russian wrote a time. I'm done. Thank you.

2226
04:33:53,500 --> 04:33:55,719
It's out of time. All right. Thank you. Just ideas.

2227
04:33:55,719 --> 04:33:58,383
Thanks. Thank you. Hi, Ms. Law.

2228
04:34:06,249 --> 04:34:08,308
Hello. I just want to say thank you for everything

2229
04:34:08,569 --> 04:34:11,508
you guys have done and so quickly. It's been amazing.

2230
04:34:11,508 --> 04:34:13,748
I do have one question. So the engineers report had

2231
04:34:13,788 --> 04:34:17,428
a lot of different suggestions and things for the district

2232
04:34:17,609 --> 04:34:20,608
or the school and the municipality for the future. Um,

2233
04:34:20,809 --> 04:34:24,468
I'm wondering when those will be like looked at by

2234
04:34:24,508 --> 04:34:28,308
you guys or implemented or is this like, I'm very

2235
04:34:28,308 --> 04:34:30,388
happy with what happened tonight. Like that's, I just wanted

2236
04:34:30,409 --> 04:34:34,628
some signs. So thanks. I'm personally good. Maybe I shouldn't

2237
04:34:34,668 --> 04:34:37,188
say that. But, uh, like, where do we go from

2238
04:34:37,228 --> 04:34:39,748
here now? Like do we come back in a year?

2239
04:34:39,748 --> 04:34:42,388
Do we, cause there was a lot of different suggestions

2240
04:34:42,409 --> 04:34:46,308
on, on that very lengthy, amazing report. So I'm just

2241
04:34:46,409 --> 04:34:51,934
wondering. Yep. My understanding is the, um, the motions that

2242
04:34:51,974 --> 04:34:55,694
we passed this evening, those going to be implemented likely

2243
04:34:55,715 --> 04:34:59,374
towards the end of the year, early 2027. Um, for

2244
04:34:59,395 --> 04:35:02,574
anything else, uh, the price tags obviously going to be

2245
04:35:02,574 --> 04:35:05,214
a lot, uh, larger. So that would have to come

2246
04:35:05,235 --> 04:35:08,814
to Council as part of our, um, capital expenditure program.

2247
04:35:08,814 --> 04:35:10,414
We've got to make those tough choices in terms of

2248
04:35:10,675 --> 04:35:14,254
where we're going to, um, direct our limited capital funding

2249
04:35:14,435 --> 04:35:16,894
and not. We're also in the process now of updating

2250
04:35:16,934 --> 04:35:19,534
our development cost charges by a law. So that's the

2251
04:35:19,955 --> 04:35:23,454
funds we collect from developers to pay for growth related

2252
04:35:23,475 --> 04:35:26,974
infrastructure and staff of determine that some of these improvements

2253
04:35:27,014 --> 04:35:31,294
on your cabinet would fit within the criteria for the

2254
04:35:31,315 --> 04:35:34,094
development cost charges bylaw. Our divine cost charges by a

2255
04:35:34,094 --> 04:35:37,774
lot. We haven't updated it since 2012. So it's quite

2256
04:35:37,875 --> 04:35:40,014
out of date. We're in the process doing that now.

2257
04:35:40,014 --> 04:35:42,454
And, uh, once that is updated, um, it's going to

2258
04:35:42,454 --> 04:35:44,174
take time, but we will be able to build up,

2259
04:35:44,174 --> 04:35:48,174
um, healthier reserve balances and being a better position to

2260
04:35:48,174 --> 04:35:50,414
move ahead with some of these improvements and places like

2261
04:35:51,075 --> 04:35:54,634
Crofton or Shamanus and other parts of municipality. And, um,

2262
04:35:54,634 --> 04:35:56,334
I don't know if everyone does know the report was

2263
04:35:56,374 --> 04:35:58,894
long, but they're also putting fencing up at this school,

2264
04:35:58,894 --> 04:36:01,694
which I guess you guys talked to the district and

2265
04:36:01,694 --> 04:36:03,374
the district agreed to do that. And it's happening right

2266
04:36:03,374 --> 04:36:07,534
now. And as a parent of a nerd, diverse child

2267
04:36:07,635 --> 04:36:10,574
that ran away and got literally grabbed by the principal

2268
04:36:10,995 --> 04:36:13,777
right before they hit the street. It was amazing to

2269
04:36:13,777 --> 04:36:16,817
see today. So like, thank you guys so much for

2270
04:36:16,918 --> 04:36:20,897
everything. I'm truly extremely like from above my heart very

2271
04:36:20,897 --> 04:36:24,017
happy and very grateful that you guys looked into this.

2272
04:36:24,017 --> 04:36:26,177
And the engineer did their report. So just thank you

2273
04:36:26,177 --> 04:36:28,417
very much. Great. Thank you. And thanks for all your

2274
04:36:28,457 --> 04:36:30,977
work bringing this, uh, to our attention and getting your,

2275
04:36:30,977 --> 04:36:34,306
your neighbours involved in the process as well. All right.

2276
04:36:34,306 --> 04:36:36,866
Anyone else with the, uh, question for Council or anyone

2277
04:36:36,866 --> 04:36:42,473
online. All right. No one else has a question for

2278
04:36:42,494 --> 04:36:45,433
Council. That concludes our business. I'll declare this meeting adjourned.