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Okay, thank you. Alright,

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welcome everybody to the

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Community of the Hall Meeting

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for Wednesday, February the

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twenty-third, 20twentytwo. I,

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the mayor is not able to be

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here for this meeting, so I

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will chair it. Um, however, I'm

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told that he will arrive for

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the special meeting. I'll call

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this meeting to order. I have a

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motion. Moved by Councilor

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Noble, sorry. It's written

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wrong. By Councillor Noble,

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seconded by Councillor Massey,

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that the Committee of Members,

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oh no, that's the agenda.

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Okay. Do I, I don't have a

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motion for opening the meeting?

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You're reading it. Okay, I'm

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not reading these then. Okay.

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Good. Councilor Noble, go

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ahead. from Councillor Matthew,

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the community member The agenda

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of the Committee of the Whole

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on Wednesday, February

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twenty-third, 2022. Thank you,

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Councilor Noble. All in favor

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of the motion. Carried, thank

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you.

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additions. Yes. Sorry. Um I

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just last night's weather

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reminded me that I don't

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believe we discussed or passed

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a resolution where we can watch

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on Zoom from home and our vote

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would count. I don't know how

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we had to discuss that if we

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had to pass anything because

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obviously the federal

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government's doing it right

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now. So, I'm not sure what the

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what we have. Okay, so this is

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so in addition to other

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business. Okay, and what what

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would you like to call it? A

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Zoom Zoom weather bylaw? Yeah,

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sure. Zoom vote. Okay, we'll

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discuss that under seven Other

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business. Is there anything,

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any other changes to the

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agenda? Saying none. All in

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favor. Carrie, thank you.

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Alright, that click. Okay,

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we're doing this backwards. Any

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declaration of pecuniary

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interest and nature thereof?

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Okay. We're good to go. Uh

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under item number five, staff

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reports, we'll start with the

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community services department.

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Go ahead, Anne. Thank you,

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madam chair. So, I'm pleased to

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bring you our report for

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February and I'll start with

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the administration side of

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things. Um further to council's

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approval, we have just received

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the contract to enter into the

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registration and recreation

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software with booking. So, once

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we get that finalized, we're

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going to be implementing the

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new booking software and as we

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mentioned, I will be done

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alongside with our existing

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software to make sure that it

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is up and running and well

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established prior to switching

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we have scheduled the business

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and community awards gala.

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There's an error in the report

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I indicated September 10th.

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It's actually on Thursday

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September 8th. We'll be sending

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out an invitation to council in

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that respect. We also have been

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speaking with the Eastern

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Ontario Health Unit about

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reopening the community

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kitchens program. As you know

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because of COVID the health

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unit has redirected all of

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their efforts towards

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vaccination clinics. But now

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that things are moving into a

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new chapter we're hoping to be

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to reopen the community

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kitchens. We know that there's

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a dire need from small

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producers to be able to access

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those spaces. The health unit

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is also continuing with the

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vaccination clinics until the

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end of February possibly into

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the first week of March. But

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they've indicated that their

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train of thought is leading

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them to move to the health unit

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spaces that they have on a Nix

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Street. And that they will most

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likely be doing their

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vaccination clinics from there.

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is that the have been dropping

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over the last while and that space would probably

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accommodate them better. We are

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in our last year for our geese

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mitigation program. As you know

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we had a three year permit for

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that process. We are going to

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be reapplying again for another

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three year permit hopefully

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from 2023 to 2025. As you know

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that's always contingent upon

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ah a review by the Ministry of

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Natural Resources. So we are

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very hopeful with the way that

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we've been managing things. And

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we often say this. This is a

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management program. Not an

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extension or extinction or an

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extermination program. There

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will always geese here. It's

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just a matter of making sure

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that it's appropriate for our population here. So that

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report is always reviewed by

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the Ministry of Natural

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Resources and they do so prior

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to issuing the permits. In

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regards to grant applications,

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Council was advised that we

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were successful in obtaining

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$490, 000 for the Hvac system

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for Maxville. Uh we also

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applied for the Celebrate

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Canada Fund for Canada Day.

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We're hoping to hear back from

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them in March. That's typically

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time frame that we get a

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response from them. We applied

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to the community revitalization

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grant for the skate park. And

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again we are hopeful to be

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hearing back from them

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positively in that respect. And

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ah we are looking at possibly

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applying to the seniors

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community grant. This year with

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South Glengarry doing something

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jointly as a Glengarry instead

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of going it alone. We have our

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health and safety meetings that

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ah we attend monthly for all of

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our facilities. Our next one is

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scheduled for tomorrow. The ice

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schedule, as you know, due to

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being closed in January, due to

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COVID. We have had to

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reschedule a lot of minor

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hockey and junior B Glens and

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Mustangs games. So, we've had

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to contact different

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organizations and shuffle

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things around. We've been very, proactive. Whenever we

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know that a team doesn't have

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the regular spot, we've been

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contacting them by email to

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remind them that week, that

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you're not on on Wednesday as

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per usual, because games were

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reshuffled. So, staff, I have

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to thank them very much for

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keeping on top of that because

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that is quite complex when

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you're trying to reschedule you

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know some seven or eight games

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that were lost during those

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periods in the two week period.

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So I know that I was speaking

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with the Glengarry girls and in

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one weekend one team had four

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games. So and that's extremely

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unusual. We also performed an inventory of all of our

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equipment. We did that

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following the capital budget

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being passed. And we wanted to

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ensure that all that

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information was available for

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the asset management plan. We

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are going to be proceeding with

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the removal of noxious aquatic

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vegetation from Mill Pond. I

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actually had a conversation

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with Mister Colby Nolan from

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the Department of Fisheries and

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Oceans about this project. And

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he has given me the verbal okay

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I'm still waiting for the

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letter of intent from them.

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Giving us all the fine details.

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But he told us that he's really

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pleased with the way the

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township has been been managing

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that program. And he also

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indicated that if we wanted to

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extend that program further to

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are July 15th date that we

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should apply for a wider permit

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and usually those are just it's

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basically a stamp of approval.

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we're proceeding with these

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this removal once we are out of

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spawning season with the fish.

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regarding the pilot project for

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Loch Gary. And I was in contact

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with Mister Brendan Jacobs from

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the RCA who kindly supplied

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some information regarding Lock

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Dairy. So they wanted to know

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kinds of species that could

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possibly be at risk in that

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body of water. As you know we

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are dammed so there are some

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species that don't make their

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way down. And Mister Jacobs

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kindly provided all of that

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information to DFO. And again

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they said that they seem to be

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very favourable to that

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project. But we are waiting for

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the LOI for that project. Also

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we'll bring that information

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forward to council. We have

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been working on the tree

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distribution program Um

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Councillor Massey, myself and

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Peter Bach had a call yesterday

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on this project trying to

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determine how best to do some

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reforestation in North

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Glengarry. What was decided was

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that we're going to be able to

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capture some information from

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other parties that have done

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the same thing. So, we've

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enlisted the help of mister Ben

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DeHon from the counties as well

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as mister Pat Pitts from South

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Nation Conservation Authority

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going to be meeting here at

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Island Park on March 8th along

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with Mister Bach and possibly a

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few more volunteers to discuss

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one area in the township that

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could be really benefit from

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reforestation and how we could

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canvass some volunteers to do

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that day. So we have that

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scheduled again for March 8th

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at one o'clock. I'll leave the

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committee activities to our

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Committee Chairs. Regards to

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our events and activities. We

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have our Boys and Girls Club

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that started again once the

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COVID restrictions were lifted.

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We've already scheduled some

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ball hockey activities for

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Maxville and that will be

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starting in May. We expect that

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the ice will be in until at

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least the 17th of April. We've

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just booked the tournament for

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two weekends and that's a

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wonderful tournament that's

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area wide. We also have the

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fishing derby as you know that

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happened this Saturday and even

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though it was blizzard-like

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conditions, there were 900

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registrants to this activity.

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Usually Um they have about two

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thousand registrants. But we

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were limited to the amount of

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individuals. We worked out a

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safety plan with the health

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unit. And we had committed to

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not having more than 1, 000

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registrants to the activity.

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And what happened with that is

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due to a question of logistics

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the registration date had to be

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moved up. So there had to be a

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firm registration date where

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usually a lot of individuals

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were able to access the Fishing

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Derby here on location.

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Register that morning. So but

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still we consider it a success

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having 900 individuals. It's

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one of the first large events

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that we've been able to host in

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the township since the

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beginning of COVID. The

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Glengary Soccer League has

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resumed its activities also

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indoors at the dome so we're

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pleased to have that going on.

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As well as other activities

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like karate, the home version

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of the kilt skate. We are also

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pleased to be offering 2 days

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at camp for March break at the

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Tim Hortons Dome. Registration

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opened today So, the spaces are

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limited. We still want to

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respect the fact that we have

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COVID and ensure that we don't

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end up with larger groups and

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we can manage safely. So, we

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encourage anyone who wants to

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have their children attend

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these camps to contact the Tim

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Horton Stone and complete a

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registration form. Sportsball

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again has been very popular.

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It's being held on Saturday

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mornings and we had young Young

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ones. So, starting at three

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years old that are registered

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in that program and I'm sure

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it's going to be a repeat again

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for the fall. have our summer

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camp starting in Alexandria.

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We've already been in contact

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with the Boys and Girls Club.

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So the organisation of that

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activity is ongoing. And we

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have contacted Youth Unlimited

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about using the facilities in

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Maxville for their summer camp

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again for the twenty twenty-two

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season. The ladies volleyball

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is a great success. We have 10

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teams registered and that

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happens on Wednesdays. And yoga

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programming will be ongoing

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with another spring session

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starting in late March. In

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respect to our facilities, we

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are working with a local

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contractor to build the stand

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for the condenser. So, we're in

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the preliminary stages of that.

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We've actually contacted

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McIntosh Perry for some

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stamping of some plans,

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engineering plans. We were able

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to mimic some plans that had

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been used by another facility

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but they still have to be peer

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reviewed by McIntosh Perry and

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we're the in the process of

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doing that right now. At Island

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Park, we've ordered the new

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place structure as Council

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approved that as part of the

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capital budget. So we're

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expecting delivery in spring

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for that. In Maxville we did

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have an issue with some sewage

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drains freezing up. And we

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really appreciate the fact that

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Dean came over to see the

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situation with us in Maxville.

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And we realized that this is

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something that we're going to

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have to address in the spring.

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Uh there's either a slope issue

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that makes that the water is

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staying in this drain. And

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really freezing up. We had

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Capital Steam come over and

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they were not able to fix the

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and so what we've done is we've

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installed a sump pump but that

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is very very much a temporary

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measure and something that's

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going to have to be addressed

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in the spring. And the

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engineers are now working on

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the Hvac design system for

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Maxville. So in respect to the

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Tim Horton stone we had family

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day happen there on Monday and

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we put out toys that were easy

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to disinfect. We know that that

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activity or that event or

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availability of activities at

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the Tim Horton Stone was again

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very successful. Same as in

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Maxville. We had an inordinate

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amount of skaters come out on

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Monday for that activity. So,

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I'm thinking it was greatly

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appreciated by the public And

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we are also following up at the

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Tim Hortons Dome with the

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Farley Group. As you know we've

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noticed some deterioration of

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the membrane and we've been

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trying to get them to come out

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to piggyback on another repair

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that they have to do at a dome

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either in Ottawa because we

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don't want to pay for them to

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come out to look for the dome.

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That would be an inordinate

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inordinately expensive charge

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for them to come out. So we're

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hoping to be able to have that

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looked at hopefully tested

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before the spring. In respect

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to other activities you'll see

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that the economic development

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department has been extremely

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busy. We were able to piggyback

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on some video that was being

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done with the the storm at

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Dundas and Glengary Counties.

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They came out on Monday and

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Tuesday of last week. And we

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took some footage and some B

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roll in Maxville with some of

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our businesses and some of our

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facilities. And this is of our

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residential marketing and

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attraction that we are doing

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under the development and

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marketing strategy. So, this is

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a component that's moving

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forward very well. We also have

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the commercial gap analysis

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that's being performed and the

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firm is coming to our next

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Community Development Committee

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to present their findings and

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these are preliminary findings

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that are going to be reviewed

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by the Committee and will be

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coming to Council at a further

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date. The My Main Street

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program has started with Daryl

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Assuming the of ambassador for

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that. And as usual we keep

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forwarding any information that

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comes from government sources

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to our chambers, to our

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businesses And the other

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important thing that I have to

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mention is that Natalie's been

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doing a fantastic job when it

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comes to communications. You've

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seen her do some live shots. Um

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and posting them to Facebook

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and we're garnering really

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great attraction through this.

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And we've been having a lot of

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people following the township

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page. So I know that they look

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sometimes like you know little

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fluffy if you wish but what's

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important for us is that

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anybody who follows a township

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when they see pieces like this

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they also get information

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concerning garbage and

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recycling distribution. And you know road conditions or

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activities have that have to be

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postponed. So we're able to

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reach larger audiences. So we

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have to thank her for the work

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that she's doing right now. So

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thank you madam chair. That's

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my report. Thank you very much

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Anne. Uh Jacques can you please

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put the motion on the table and

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then I'll ask for questions and

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comments afterwards. I never

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thought I'd I'd say this but

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then we kind of miss Jamie in

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these times.

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Just kidding, girl. Uh moving

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myself seconded by Councillor

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Noble that the Committee of the

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whole receives report CS 2022

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dash zero one, the Departmental

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Workmat Work Plan Update,

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February 2022 from the

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Community Services Department

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for Information Purposes Only.

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Thank you, Councillor. Uh are

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there any questions from

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Councillors or comments for

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Anne? Yes, good. I just couple

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comments and just regarding ice

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fishing tournament. I was there

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so it was it was a nice it was

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a it was a day like we had a I

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took a video of it while the

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squall was coming down so but

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just to add on that like there

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was at least like it's a great

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event for Northern Gary and

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I've seen whatever could figure

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out is about 50% of outside

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outsiders. Mm hmm. Uh so that's

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a great we should jump on that

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train to promoted a little bit

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better. I think because they

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didn't really do a I know you

535
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said they were a bit late with

536
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the COVID stuff. But a lot of

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00:17:08,927 --> 00:17:10,529
people didn't even know it it

538
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was happening that day. So so

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we if we couldn't next year

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maybe get in contact with them

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and I'm I'm pretty sure they

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would like us to promote it a

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little bit that helped them

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promote it because it's a great grow up for Alexandria

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00:17:22,975 --> 00:17:25,577
and Glengarry. And also the

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three committee. Thank you very

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00:17:27,379 --> 00:17:28,514
much Anne for taking that over.

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Uh taking see with really a

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good meeting yesterday. We did

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a Zoom with and they're

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going to Pete's going to talk

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to his group, the neighbors, I

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think, the friends of the

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Glengarry. Uh so they're

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00:17:43,027 --> 00:17:45,030
going to enlist maybe a couple

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more committee members and

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invitation is out there for

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anyone, you know, discount sold

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if they want to join in too.

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Like, maybe one or two more.

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It's just that they would get

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more transparency to the the

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thing and also I don't know if

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you mentioned that. Tim maybe

565
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like on public horse when we if

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we adopt a green road to

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reinforest like on the sides

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and everything, we'd like the

569
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participation or just the

570
00:18:08,887 --> 00:18:10,355
guidance of public works, the

571
00:18:10,355 --> 00:18:12,357
road department just to tell us

572
00:18:12,357 --> 00:18:15,027
if there's any ditches there or

573
00:18:15,027 --> 00:18:19,064
you know, lines of so we might

574
00:18:19,064 --> 00:18:20,832
be knocking on your door just

575
00:18:20,832 --> 00:18:22,167
to give us a little headwood

576
00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:23,535
because we're the next meeting

577
00:18:23,535 --> 00:18:26,071
will be the process to start I

578
00:18:26,071 --> 00:18:29,508
think adopting one project for

579
00:18:29,508 --> 00:18:30,108
this year and then we're

580
00:18:30,108 --> 00:18:31,142
going to try to reline a green

581
00:18:31,142 --> 00:18:34,613
road that has been cleaned up

582
00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:36,048
completely to the to the gravel

583
00:18:36,048 --> 00:18:38,517
there so that's the plan so we

584
00:18:38,517 --> 00:18:41,519
might ask you for advice or

585
00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:43,222
something on that and that's

586
00:18:43,222 --> 00:18:46,558
it. Thank you. And if I may

587
00:18:46,558 --> 00:18:48,894
Council Massey will be doing a

588
00:18:48,894 --> 00:18:49,895
call out to volunteers. So

589
00:18:49,895 --> 00:18:51,095
anybody who feels like coming

590
00:18:51,095 --> 00:18:52,664
out to plant some trees. We'll

591
00:18:52,664 --> 00:18:54,633
let you know the date and time

592
00:18:54,633 --> 00:18:56,635
and location. Thank you

593
00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:58,604
Councillor Massey. I I'm really

594
00:18:58,604 --> 00:18:59,838
glad to hear that you're

595
00:18:59,838 --> 00:19:02,741
involving the the public in

596
00:19:02,741 --> 00:19:03,642
this in this initiative.

597
00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:06,878
Because it'll it people want to

598
00:19:06,878 --> 00:19:08,013
get involved in this kind of

599
00:19:08,013 --> 00:19:09,548
thing because it's it's good

600
00:19:09,548 --> 00:19:10,749
news. It's helping the

601
00:19:10,749 --> 00:19:13,151
environment and you know it it

602
00:19:13,151 --> 00:19:14,753
gives a really good message. Uh

603
00:19:14,753 --> 00:19:16,021
and and I think it would also

604
00:19:16,021 --> 00:19:17,755
be a good idea when you have a

605
00:19:17,755 --> 00:19:20,024
date for the tree pickup. If

606
00:19:20,024 --> 00:19:21,760
you could please let council

607
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,028
know so that maybe we can be

608
00:19:24,028 --> 00:19:25,831
out there you know giving the

609
00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:27,966
trees away to the the public. I

610
00:19:27,966 --> 00:19:29,768
think it's be nice to see

611
00:19:29,768 --> 00:19:31,436
Council involved in that.

612
00:19:31,436 --> 00:19:33,739
Anyone who's available? Um I

613
00:19:33,739 --> 00:19:36,741
just have a two one other

614
00:19:36,741 --> 00:19:38,009
question with regards to Lough

615
00:19:38,009 --> 00:19:40,746
Gary and you said that there's

616
00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:44,949
a pilot Um for going on a pilot

617
00:19:44,949 --> 00:19:47,052
project with regards to

618
00:19:47,052 --> 00:19:48,854
clearing weeds there. So you

619
00:19:48,854 --> 00:19:50,088
through you madam chair, yes,

620
00:19:50,088 --> 00:19:51,556
actually that had been brought

621
00:19:51,556 --> 00:19:53,458
to council previously. Uh we

622
00:19:53,458 --> 00:19:55,026
had had a request to see if it

623
00:19:55,026 --> 00:19:56,561
was possible to make some

624
00:19:56,561 --> 00:19:58,230
improvements to lock Gary. It

625
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:59,698
is a very small project. We're

626
00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:01,600
looking at doing about the

627
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,934
equivalent of what we do here.

628
00:20:02,934 --> 00:20:04,503
So it may not look like much

629
00:20:04,503 --> 00:20:05,437
but it is so much more than

630
00:20:05,437 --> 00:20:07,772
just that. It really a pilot to

631
00:20:07,772 --> 00:20:10,042
show the DFO that we might be

632
00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:11,576
able to impact a certain area

633
00:20:11,576 --> 00:20:13,378
and possibly extend further in

634
00:20:13,378 --> 00:20:14,479
the future. And when we did

635
00:20:14,479 --> 00:20:16,715
discuss this with public works

636
00:20:16,715 --> 00:20:17,783
we had to be very conscious of

637
00:20:17,783 --> 00:20:19,551
the fact that we can't go and

638
00:20:19,551 --> 00:20:20,786
stretch out our resources

639
00:20:20,786 --> 00:20:22,653
beyond what we have. So if

640
00:20:22,653 --> 00:20:24,523
we're able to do this

641
00:20:24,523 --> 00:20:26,158
successfully and if it's

642
00:20:26,158 --> 00:20:28,627
council's desire to extend the

643
00:20:28,627 --> 00:20:30,195
area that needs to be cleaned

644
00:20:30,195 --> 00:20:32,531
up will have to put together a

645
00:20:32,531 --> 00:20:34,066
plan for that including you

646
00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:37,268
know staff costs staff time,

647
00:20:37,268 --> 00:20:38,937
possibly equipment because that

648
00:20:38,937 --> 00:20:40,138
means moving the harvester in

649
00:20:40,138 --> 00:20:44,008
and out of the pond. So, it's much larger than just

650
00:20:44,008 --> 00:20:45,043
saying, okay, we're going ahead

651
00:20:45,043 --> 00:20:47,645
and cleaning out an area. So,

652
00:20:47,645 --> 00:20:48,746
there's a lot of thought being

653
00:20:48,746 --> 00:20:50,015
given to this. Okay, good.

654
00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:51,082
That's precisely why I asked

655
00:20:51,082 --> 00:20:52,083
the question because I could

656
00:20:52,083 --> 00:20:54,820
see this you know, all of a

657
00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:57,022
sudden, there's an you need two

658
00:20:57,022 --> 00:20:58,590
harvesters and I mean, it's

659
00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,225
desirable to clean up Loch Gary

660
00:21:00,225 --> 00:21:02,594
if it all possible but you

661
00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:04,229
know, within we need, yeah, we

662
00:21:04,229 --> 00:21:05,997
need we need a plan for sure

663
00:21:05,997 --> 00:21:07,466
and I think it's important

664
00:21:07,466 --> 00:21:10,969
until until we do have a plan

665
00:21:10,969 --> 00:21:12,871
you know to keep people's

666
00:21:12,871 --> 00:21:15,140
expectations in in check so

667
00:21:15,140 --> 00:21:16,875
that we don't they don't think

668
00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:18,977
it's going to be sort of

669
00:21:18,977 --> 00:21:21,279
crystal blue water tomorrow or

670
00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:24,750
something. Okay, that that was

671
00:21:24,750 --> 00:21:26,618
just what I had in mind there.

672
00:21:26,618 --> 00:21:28,587
Any other questions or comments

673
00:21:28,587 --> 00:21:30,121
from Anne? So, through you

674
00:21:30,121 --> 00:21:31,656
madam chair if I may. Um there

675
00:21:31,656 --> 00:21:33,391
is going to be a communications

676
00:21:33,391 --> 00:21:34,626
component that's going to be

677
00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:36,027
accompanying the pilot project

678
00:21:36,027 --> 00:21:37,963
as well as the tree project.

679
00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:40,632
So, we realize that and we

680
00:21:40,632 --> 00:21:41,566
discussed that yesterday during

681
00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:42,767
our meeting with Mister Bach

682
00:21:42,767 --> 00:21:45,070
that if the Green Road

683
00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:47,538
Allowance is along a farm or an

684
00:21:47,538 --> 00:21:49,140
area like that that we're going

685
00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:50,442
to get that farmers involvement

686
00:21:50,442 --> 00:21:51,710
and we're going to be putting

687
00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:53,144
up signage there and we're

688
00:21:53,144 --> 00:21:54,012
going to be working with

689
00:21:54,012 --> 00:21:55,013
Natalie again to put out some

690
00:21:55,013 --> 00:21:57,282
press releases and to do, you

691
00:21:57,282 --> 00:21:58,750
know, some some photography and

692
00:21:58,750 --> 00:22:00,585
so on and so forth. Really a

693
00:22:00,585 --> 00:22:02,621
good sense of sensibilization

694
00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:04,890
campaign for that. And the

695
00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:05,590
thing the same thing is going

696
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:06,625
to be done with Lough Gary.

697
00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:08,560
Just so the community does

698
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,227
understand that this is very

699
00:22:09,227 --> 00:22:12,998
much a pilot project. So and

700
00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:14,533
you know when we know what the

701
00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:17,035
area is here at Mill Pond and

702
00:22:17,035 --> 00:22:18,470
it looks huge because it's what

703
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:19,771
we see here. But in Lough area

704
00:22:19,771 --> 00:22:21,539
if you put it in reference it's

705
00:22:21,539 --> 00:22:23,875
a very very very small portion

706
00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:25,544
of Lock Erie. And it's to see

707
00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:26,611
what kind of an impact we can

708
00:22:26,611 --> 00:22:28,980
have. And if it's fees letter

709
00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:30,515
end. Very good. That that

710
00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:31,682
sounds like a good plan. If

711
00:22:31,682 --> 00:22:32,617
you're going to check to see if

712
00:22:32,617 --> 00:22:34,920
there are any weevils left.

713
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,756
Didn't hear that. Okay, thank

714
00:22:38,756 --> 00:22:44,963
you very much Anne. Thank you.

715
00:22:44,963 --> 00:22:49,100
Okay. Next is the Treasury

716
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,902
Department. Uh Brenda, can you

717
00:22:50,902 --> 00:22:52,337
put the motion on the table,

718
00:22:52,337 --> 00:22:59,511
please?

719
00:22:59,511 --> 00:23:01,279
TR 2022 dash seven, the

720
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:02,747
Departmental Work Plan Update,

721
00:23:02,747 --> 00:23:05,216
February 2022. From the

722
00:23:05,216 --> 00:23:06,117
treasury department for

723
00:23:06,117 --> 00:23:07,552
information purposes only.

724
00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:10,088
Thank you. Go ahead, Kim.

725
00:23:10,088 --> 00:23:12,691
Welcome. Um building

726
00:23:12,691 --> 00:23:14,092
assessments are now complete

727
00:23:14,092 --> 00:23:15,560
and the information is being

728
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,761
formatted to upload into the

729
00:23:16,761 --> 00:23:18,663
city wide software. Along with

730
00:23:18,663 --> 00:23:20,765
this, the bridge culvert and

731
00:23:20,765 --> 00:23:22,534
roads meet studies will also be

732
00:23:22,534 --> 00:23:24,736
put into that asset management

733
00:23:24,736 --> 00:23:27,805
software and not only that,

734
00:23:27,805 --> 00:23:28,874
we're going to upload the

735
00:23:28,874 --> 00:23:31,009
entire studies. There is a way

736
00:23:31,009 --> 00:23:33,144
to do it. I don't know yet how.

737
00:23:33,144 --> 00:23:34,980
but that way we have a central

738
00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:35,813
storage for all our asset

739
00:23:35,813 --> 00:23:38,016
information. This will also

740
00:23:38,016 --> 00:23:39,284
assist with capital budgeting

741
00:23:39,284 --> 00:23:41,553
hopefully for 2023. We have a

742
00:23:41,553 --> 00:23:43,021
county representative who's

743
00:23:43,021 --> 00:23:44,789
coming down for a day in March.

744
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:46,057
And she's going to assist

745
00:23:46,057 --> 00:23:47,526
myself, the director of public

746
00:23:47,526 --> 00:23:49,127
works, and the public works

747
00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:52,464
assistant. That's your title.

748
00:23:52,464 --> 00:23:53,698
Anyways, with getting some of

749
00:23:53,698 --> 00:23:54,933
this information into the

750
00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:57,202
software. Uh tax collection

751
00:23:57,202 --> 00:23:59,504
remains very good. Uh your

752
00:23:59,504 --> 00:24:00,872
report says there's nine

753
00:24:00,872 --> 00:24:01,840
properties still in the process

754
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,474
for tendering. This is now down

755
00:24:03,474 --> 00:24:05,977
to six. We had three of those

756
00:24:05,977 --> 00:24:07,378
customers pay this week and we

757
00:24:07,378 --> 00:24:09,948
had another one pay last Friday

758
00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:11,449
and the four of them totaled

759
00:24:11,449 --> 00:24:13,051
7-eight thousand dollars. So,

760
00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:15,587
it's coming along. We also have

761
00:24:15,587 --> 00:24:17,422
three tenders that are planned

762
00:24:17,422 --> 00:24:19,424
to be opened on March 17th for

763
00:24:19,424 --> 00:24:22,227
three properties. Uh and on a

764
00:24:22,227 --> 00:24:23,562
date eight additional

765
00:24:23,562 --> 00:24:25,163
properties will be starting the

766
00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:26,364
process soon. It takes about a

767
00:24:26,364 --> 00:24:28,033
year for it to go through but

768
00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:30,068
we're starting on eight more.

769
00:24:30,068 --> 00:24:31,636
Uh the municipal audit is

770
00:24:31,636 --> 00:24:33,071
taking place from February 28th

771
00:24:33,071 --> 00:24:35,273
to March 11th. So, the treasury

772
00:24:35,273 --> 00:24:36,441
department and other

773
00:24:36,441 --> 00:24:37,275
departments that are involved

774
00:24:37,275 --> 00:24:38,209
in the audit have been getting

775
00:24:38,209 --> 00:24:39,477
all the documentation ready for

776
00:24:39,477 --> 00:24:42,113
the auditors. Um This is so we

777
00:24:42,113 --> 00:24:43,548
have our year end earlier than

778
00:24:43,548 --> 00:24:45,082
we have in the past couple of

779
00:24:45,082 --> 00:24:46,217
years. I know there was one

780
00:24:46,217 --> 00:24:47,586
year when we got our financial

781
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:48,753
statements in October and it

782
00:24:48,753 --> 00:24:50,021
made it difficult to manage

783
00:24:50,021 --> 00:24:51,523
because the financials were not

784
00:24:51,523 --> 00:24:53,959
rolled into the next year. So

785
00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:56,595
it will be earlier this year.

786
00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:57,595
Uh the Department's planning

787
00:24:57,595 --> 00:24:59,531
for two new policies for 2022.

788
00:24:59,531 --> 00:25:00,998
We'll see how that goes. And

789
00:25:00,998 --> 00:25:03,001
the remainder of the items on

790
00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:04,536
this report are basically

791
00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:06,004
normal operations for the

792
00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:07,538
Treasury Department. So my

793
00:25:07,538 --> 00:25:08,940
report looks very small

794
00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:14,746
compared to Anne's. I'm I'm not going to ask the

795
00:25:14,746 --> 00:25:17,282
question. And and he thank you

796
00:25:17,282 --> 00:25:18,482
Kim. You're welcome. Thank you.

797
00:25:18,482 --> 00:25:19,817
We know you work hard. Don't

798
00:25:19,817 --> 00:25:20,986
worry. It's okay. No. I know

799
00:25:20,986 --> 00:25:22,954
you work. Just like. Okay I got

800
00:25:22,954 --> 00:25:27,158
two paragraphs.

801
00:25:27,158 --> 00:25:29,027
Uh questions or comments from

802
00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:34,032
council? Look at, you answered

803
00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:35,634
all the, all the questions in

804
00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:37,202
those paragraphs as well. Thank

805
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,469
you, Council. Thank you very

806
00:25:38,469 --> 00:25:40,471
much. Alright, you've all heard

807
00:25:40,471 --> 00:25:43,008
the motion. Uh, all in favor of

808
00:25:43,008 --> 00:25:47,946
the motion? Carried, thank you.

809
00:25:47,946 --> 00:25:50,047
Alright, we're onto sea

810
00:25:50,047 --> 00:25:51,616
building, planning, and bylaw

811
00:25:51,616 --> 00:25:55,553
departments. Councillor

812
00:25:55,553 --> 00:25:57,122
Manally, please put the motion

813
00:25:57,122 --> 00:25:58,757
on the table. Thank you, Deputy

814
00:25:58,757 --> 00:25:59,891
Mayor. Moving myself, seconded

815
00:25:59,891 --> 00:26:01,326
by Councilor Madden that the

816
00:26:01,326 --> 00:26:02,426
committee of the poll receives

817
00:26:02,426 --> 00:26:05,930
report BP 2022 dash zero six.

818
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:07,499
The Department of Work Plan

819
00:26:07,499 --> 00:26:10,101
Update, February 2022 and the

820
00:26:10,101 --> 00:26:12,070
building by law and planning

821
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:14,606
department for information

822
00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:16,141
purposes only. Thank you. 'em.

823
00:26:16,141 --> 00:26:20,945
Thank you, mister PD Mayor. So,

824
00:26:20,945 --> 00:26:22,247
what's new? So, the first one,

825
00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:23,948
hiring of the administrative

826
00:26:23,948 --> 00:26:26,050
assistant. As you know, there's

827
00:26:26,050 --> 00:26:27,819
been a bit of a staffing change

828
00:26:27,819 --> 00:26:30,088
in the department. So, we've

829
00:26:30,088 --> 00:26:30,988
come to an agreement with the

830
00:26:30,988 --> 00:26:33,925
counties to get Peter Young to

831
00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:35,560
work with us to do the biggest,

832
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,129
I guess the the big planning

833
00:26:38,129 --> 00:26:39,164
files and we're in the process

834
00:26:39,164 --> 00:26:41,066
of hiring a new admin assistant

835
00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:44,235
for so Chantal moved. She she

836
00:26:44,235 --> 00:26:45,970
took the the planning aspect of

837
00:26:45,970 --> 00:26:47,405
the of the department. So,

838
00:26:47,405 --> 00:26:48,072
we're hiring a new admin

839
00:26:48,072 --> 00:26:50,341
assistant to help building and

840
00:26:50,341 --> 00:26:52,977
bylaw. We've had some very good

841
00:26:52,977 --> 00:26:55,580
applicants so this will be

842
00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:56,347
continued in the next in the

843
00:26:56,347 --> 00:26:59,551
next week I guess. Uh Maxville

844
00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:01,052
Projects who as you know we've

845
00:27:01,052 --> 00:27:03,455
been working alongside with

846
00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:06,024
Waterworks and a lot with the

847
00:27:06,024 --> 00:27:07,525
plumbers in Maxville to know

848
00:27:07,525 --> 00:27:09,961
when the when the remainder of

849
00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:10,895
the properties are being

850
00:27:10,895 --> 00:27:13,164
connected so we can go and do

851
00:27:13,164 --> 00:27:14,598
the inspection right away. Uh

852
00:27:14,598 --> 00:27:16,234
so there's no backlog in there.

853
00:27:16,234 --> 00:27:17,168
We're pretty much up to date.

854
00:27:17,168 --> 00:27:18,536
It's just a question of getting

855
00:27:18,536 --> 00:27:20,338
everybody connected. Uh

856
00:27:20,338 --> 00:27:21,706
building permits. So a little

857
00:27:21,706 --> 00:27:24,542
update for for the of the year.

858
00:27:24,542 --> 00:27:27,612
Uh so in 2021, we have issued

859
00:27:27,612 --> 00:27:30,214
250 building permits. And the

860
00:27:30,214 --> 00:27:31,816
value of construction of these

861
00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:34,118
permits. So that's not the

862
00:27:34,118 --> 00:27:37,021
actual money we're we're we're taking in for the permit.

863
00:27:37,021 --> 00:27:38,222
Sadly it's the actual value of

864
00:27:38,222 --> 00:27:41,526
the building. Uh so 22 million

865
00:27:41,526 --> 00:27:43,761
455 Uh just to compare to last

866
00:27:43,761 --> 00:27:46,163
year in 2020. So yeah there was

867
00:27:46,163 --> 00:27:48,633
the pandemic and everything but

868
00:27:48,633 --> 00:27:50,101
as I mentioned there was not a

869
00:27:50,101 --> 00:27:52,070
real real big hit in the

870
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:54,205
construction. Uh department

871
00:27:54,205 --> 00:27:56,040
last year we've issued two

872
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,209
twenty-six permits for 12

873
00:27:58,209 --> 00:28:00,011
pretty much 13 million dollars.

874
00:28:00,011 --> 00:28:02,213
So there's a big increase

875
00:28:02,213 --> 00:28:04,015
there. We've been we've been

876
00:28:04,015 --> 00:28:05,650
busy. We see it. Uh most of

877
00:28:05,650 --> 00:28:10,155
these large sums come from some

878
00:28:10,155 --> 00:28:12,090
industrial development in the

879
00:28:12,090 --> 00:28:13,024
humans. So, I don't know what

880
00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:14,492
you saw. There's there's a lot

881
00:28:14,492 --> 00:28:16,628
of new buildings there. Dome

882
00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,028
buildings, stuff like that. Uh

883
00:28:18,028 --> 00:28:20,465
the vet clinic of course, large

884
00:28:20,465 --> 00:28:22,100
agricultural projects and a lot

885
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,101
of residential permits. So,

886
00:28:24,101 --> 00:28:26,037
there's been especially late

887
00:28:26,037 --> 00:28:28,339
Last year and coming into this

888
00:28:28,339 --> 00:28:29,874
year, there's a lot of single

889
00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:32,477
family dwelling applications.

890
00:28:32,477 --> 00:28:34,112
So, that's going well. Uh just

891
00:28:34,112 --> 00:28:37,515
a little update on a large

892
00:28:37,515 --> 00:28:39,283
projects. Uh so, the site plan

893
00:28:39,283 --> 00:28:41,486
for the animal hospital as you

894
00:28:41,486 --> 00:28:42,486
probably saw it. It's going

895
00:28:42,486 --> 00:28:44,121
really well. Uh the structure

896
00:28:44,121 --> 00:28:46,224
is all up. Uh we did, we just

897
00:28:46,224 --> 00:28:48,092
did the plumbing inspection in

898
00:28:48,092 --> 00:28:50,161
there. So, insulation and then

899
00:28:50,161 --> 00:28:52,363
they're going to board and they

900
00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:53,564
got in touch with me to know

901
00:28:53,564 --> 00:28:55,099
exactly what they needed for

902
00:28:55,099 --> 00:28:57,035
their occupancy. So, they're

903
00:28:57,035 --> 00:28:58,136
looking at when they can open

904
00:28:58,136 --> 00:28:59,003
and stuff like that. So, I I

905
00:28:59,003 --> 00:29:01,472
believe they're aiming like

906
00:29:01,472 --> 00:29:03,408
April around that. So it's it's

907
00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:05,443
going really well over there.

908
00:29:05,443 --> 00:29:07,545
Um the fourplex on Saint

909
00:29:07,545 --> 00:29:08,513
George. So, Ron Theorez

910
00:29:08,513 --> 00:29:09,814
property, this is going to

911
00:29:09,814 --> 00:29:11,416
start in March. We just issued

912
00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:14,752
this building permit. Um

913
00:29:14,752 --> 00:29:15,687
apartment complex in Knoxville.

914
00:29:15,687 --> 00:29:16,754
So, the old school. This is

915
00:29:16,754 --> 00:29:18,856
also going really well. I just

916
00:29:18,856 --> 00:29:20,091
did the plumbing inspection

917
00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:21,426
over there and he's starting

918
00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:24,362
the drywall. Um so, IHA. I'll

919
00:29:24,362 --> 00:29:26,631
just talk about it later but

920
00:29:26,631 --> 00:29:28,165
basically there they're well

921
00:29:28,165 --> 00:29:29,968
into their sightline control

922
00:29:29,968 --> 00:29:30,902
development also. Uh and

923
00:29:30,902 --> 00:29:33,404
there's a Trucking Depot that's

924
00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:35,873
going to go this year. Uh just

925
00:29:35,873 --> 00:29:38,743
south of town here. Uh yeah so

926
00:29:38,743 --> 00:29:39,878
a lot of building permit

927
00:29:39,878 --> 00:29:41,212
application, large projects,

928
00:29:41,212 --> 00:29:42,079
and a lot of single family

929
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:43,748
dwellings for coming in for

930
00:29:43,748 --> 00:29:46,216
next year. Um so by law

931
00:29:46,216 --> 00:29:48,152
enforcement there's not a whole

932
00:29:48,152 --> 00:29:50,354
lot new going on in the bylaw

933
00:29:50,354 --> 00:29:52,090
enforcement. It's really just

934
00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:54,459
complaints coming in. Uh COVID

935
00:29:54,459 --> 00:29:56,060
restrictions are starting to be

936
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:58,229
very hard to enforce as you

937
00:29:58,229 --> 00:29:59,930
know. So we're just trying to

938
00:29:59,930 --> 00:30:01,966
keep up. Todd is working really

939
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:03,601
well with the OPP so it's it's

940
00:30:03,601 --> 00:30:05,703
going good for that. Uh fines.

941
00:30:05,703 --> 00:30:07,605
Again, we didn't do it yet but

942
00:30:07,605 --> 00:30:10,508
we want to get some set fines

943
00:30:10,508 --> 00:30:13,278
for most of our bylaws. Uh the

944
00:30:13,278 --> 00:30:15,480
planning department, so for

945
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,213
subdivisions, I mentioned, I

946
00:30:16,213 --> 00:30:17,681
think at the last meeting that

947
00:30:17,681 --> 00:30:19,751
the township was looking into

948
00:30:19,751 --> 00:30:21,052
doing some kind of a standards

949
00:30:21,052 --> 00:30:22,553
or guideline for subdivisions.

950
00:30:22,553 --> 00:30:24,355
So, we just had a meeting this

951
00:30:24,355 --> 00:30:25,690
morning actually with the

952
00:30:25,690 --> 00:30:29,494
counties and Peter wants to do

953
00:30:29,494 --> 00:30:31,930
something more similar across

954
00:30:31,930 --> 00:30:33,664
the county. So what he's

955
00:30:33,664 --> 00:30:36,100
proposing is he's going to to

956
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,503
use some guidelines that

957
00:30:38,503 --> 00:30:40,972
existing some existing

958
00:30:40,972 --> 00:30:41,639
guidelines from other

959
00:30:41,639 --> 00:30:45,143
townships. And try to to to do

960
00:30:45,143 --> 00:30:45,810
a guideline that would that

961
00:30:45,810 --> 00:30:47,144
could be used across the

962
00:30:47,144 --> 00:30:49,547
county. So most of the planners

963
00:30:49,547 --> 00:30:52,216
seem to be on board. Um they're

964
00:30:52,216 --> 00:30:53,517
pretty much using the same one

965
00:30:53,517 --> 00:30:55,153
as of now also wouldn't change

966
00:30:55,153 --> 00:30:57,088
anything for them. So that

967
00:30:57,088 --> 00:30:57,755
would be useful. So we're kind

968
00:30:57,755 --> 00:30:59,156
of on the hold for that but

969
00:30:59,156 --> 00:31:00,758
this would be a good idea of

970
00:31:00,758 --> 00:31:03,061
that. For subdivision and

971
00:31:03,061 --> 00:31:04,228
foresight plans actually. So,

972
00:31:04,228 --> 00:31:05,662
the application would be the

973
00:31:05,662 --> 00:31:07,198
same across the county. So,

974
00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:08,399
it's with Peter Young over

975
00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:09,701
there. It's going really well

976
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:12,737
for planning Uh severances, we

977
00:31:12,737 --> 00:31:13,972
have a lot of severances coming

978
00:31:13,972 --> 00:31:16,039
in but that again, with our new

979
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:18,009
arrangements with the counties,

980
00:31:18,009 --> 00:31:19,977
this will be a lot easier for

981
00:31:19,977 --> 00:31:21,779
us as we pretty much just flip

982
00:31:21,779 --> 00:31:23,281
them to the counties at as they

983
00:31:23,281 --> 00:31:24,615
are the approval authority and

984
00:31:24,615 --> 00:31:26,083
what's going to happen is that

985
00:31:26,083 --> 00:31:28,219
they are going to put in the

986
00:31:28,219 --> 00:31:29,153
conditions on our part. They're

987
00:31:29,153 --> 00:31:30,120
going to send it back to us and

988
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,888
we're just going to say yes,

989
00:31:30,888 --> 00:31:32,890
we're okay with or change this,

990
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:34,492
whatever. So, this should be

991
00:31:34,492 --> 00:31:37,795
good. Uh the IHA project, so we

992
00:31:37,795 --> 00:31:39,697
have the presentation coming,

993
00:31:39,697 --> 00:31:41,699
Uh basically, they're they're

994
00:31:41,699 --> 00:31:43,001
well into their site plan

995
00:31:43,001 --> 00:31:43,901
agreement. So, they're going to

996
00:31:43,901 --> 00:31:45,937
present what they have now. Uh

997
00:31:45,937 --> 00:31:49,440
and the LPAT appeal. So, as of

998
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,676
February 15, the appeal was

999
00:31:51,676 --> 00:31:53,811
finally approved. So, it only

1000
00:31:53,811 --> 00:31:55,546
took four years, not bad.

1001
00:31:55,546 --> 00:31:57,682
They're due for their next

1002
00:31:57,682 --> 00:31:59,149
review coming in next year but

1003
00:31:59,149 --> 00:32:00,150
whatever, that's okay. Uh they

1004
00:32:00,150 --> 00:32:04,956
have to do their their schedule

1005
00:32:04,956 --> 00:32:06,757
advert like tell everybody's

1006
00:32:06,757 --> 00:32:08,026
like whose properties is

1007
00:32:08,026 --> 00:32:09,427
switching. They have to let

1008
00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:10,628
them know. And from there it's

1009
00:32:10,628 --> 00:32:11,829
going to be official that the

1010
00:32:11,829 --> 00:32:13,297
new OP is going to be in

1011
00:32:13,297 --> 00:32:16,100
effect. And from there so

1012
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,568
that's that was one of the big

1013
00:32:17,568 --> 00:32:19,636
steps we were waiting for to

1014
00:32:19,636 --> 00:32:21,004
update our zoning bylock as the

1015
00:32:21,004 --> 00:32:22,740
Rzoning has to match DOP. So

1016
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:24,208
now we're going to be able to

1017
00:32:24,208 --> 00:32:25,576
update our zoning bylaw to

1018
00:32:25,576 --> 00:32:27,812
match with the OP has changed

1019
00:32:27,812 --> 00:32:29,413
with this with this appeal now.

1020
00:32:29,413 --> 00:32:32,850
And that's it. Thank you Mister

1021
00:32:32,850 --> 00:32:35,153
Excellent. Thank you, Jacob.

1022
00:32:35,153 --> 00:32:39,924
Questions, comments for Jacob.

1023
00:32:39,924 --> 00:32:41,459
Gee, you answered everybody's

1024
00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:43,161
questions too. Just just, I

1025
00:32:43,161 --> 00:32:48,399
have one. Come on. Go ahead. Uh

1026
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:50,001
just with regards to the the

1027
00:32:50,001 --> 00:32:52,503
hookups for water in Maxville.

1028
00:32:52,503 --> 00:32:54,071
Yep. Approximately how many are

1029
00:32:54,071 --> 00:32:57,007
not hooked up. And and are

1030
00:32:57,007 --> 00:33:02,013
they? Ten. forty-7 now? And and

1031
00:33:02,013 --> 00:33:05,083
are they simply not going to

1032
00:33:05,083 --> 00:33:06,484
hook up? Yeah. Are they just

1033
00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:09,487
going to at this point? We're trying to get a hold of

1034
00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:10,154
him. Some of the people we

1035
00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:12,090
can't even talk to because they

1036
00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:22,567
don't answer but

1037
00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:24,902
I see. Why there's there's a

1038
00:33:24,902 --> 00:33:28,139
lot of them it's like it's it's

1039
00:33:28,139 --> 00:33:28,873
with the plumbers like right

1040
00:33:28,873 --> 00:33:31,142
now also it's winter so a lot

1041
00:33:31,142 --> 00:33:32,743
of them I know pretty much all

1042
00:33:32,743 --> 00:33:35,146
of what's the street north of

1043
00:33:35,146 --> 00:33:36,347
Maxville there the roundabout

1044
00:33:36,347 --> 00:33:38,449
there? Campbell Campbell.

1045
00:33:38,449 --> 00:33:39,550
They're pretty much all waiting

1046
00:33:39,550 --> 00:33:40,885
on on the plumbers to do it.

1047
00:33:40,885 --> 00:33:43,020
They're all ready to go. So

1048
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:44,355
that is the situation for some

1049
00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:45,656
of them. So it's it's not

1050
00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:46,757
always the land owner.

1051
00:33:46,757 --> 00:33:48,059
Sometimes it's the plumber.

1052
00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:49,594
Sometimes it's just bad timing.

1053
00:33:49,594 --> 00:33:55,199
So. Okay. But that's it there's not a lot of complaints

1054
00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:56,767
going on with regards to that.

1055
00:33:56,767 --> 00:34:01,072
It's pretty smooth No, I think.

1056
00:34:01,072 --> 00:34:04,141
Okay. Alright, I thought it had

1057
00:34:04,141 --> 00:34:06,644
started. Okay. Um and then just

1058
00:34:06,644 --> 00:34:08,446
with regards to those

1059
00:34:08,446 --> 00:34:09,546
subdivision guidelines you were

1060
00:34:09,546 --> 00:34:13,084
talking about. Yeah. Is there

1061
00:34:13,084 --> 00:34:14,418
what are the advantages and the

1062
00:34:14,418 --> 00:34:18,089
disadvantages of of having sort

1063
00:34:18,089 --> 00:34:22,593
of a uniform sort of across the

1064
00:34:22,593 --> 00:34:26,531
entire of SD and G. It's it's a

1065
00:34:26,531 --> 00:34:28,399
as far as I'm concerned it's a

1066
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:31,469
very good idea because it's easier for like it's

1067
00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:32,870
because you always get the same

1068
00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:34,605
people if I can take for

1069
00:34:34,605 --> 00:34:37,141
example like EVB and all I

1070
00:34:37,141 --> 00:34:38,742
think. So they work for like

1071
00:34:38,742 --> 00:34:40,011
pretty much four four

1072
00:34:40,011 --> 00:34:41,979
townships. So if they would

1073
00:34:41,979 --> 00:34:43,881
have the same guideline to to

1074
00:34:43,881 --> 00:34:45,683
use for mind you the guy

1075
00:34:45,683 --> 00:34:47,952
working for AVB used to do

1076
00:34:47,952 --> 00:34:49,119
these guidelines for two of the

1077
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,521
townships. So, it's like they

1078
00:34:50,521 --> 00:34:52,256
know it by heart and right now,

1079
00:34:52,256 --> 00:34:54,025
there's just little things

1080
00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:55,459
different from one to another.

1081
00:34:55,459 --> 00:34:58,095
So, having it like the same

1082
00:34:58,095 --> 00:34:59,563
actual document for across the

1083
00:34:59,563 --> 00:35:00,364
counties would be good. It's

1084
00:35:00,364 --> 00:35:04,201
and also it's just the thing we would not have to do with

1085
00:35:04,201 --> 00:35:05,303
basically like it would just

1086
00:35:05,303 --> 00:35:07,538
come to us all ready to go it's

1087
00:35:07,538 --> 00:35:10,041
the it's usually the same like

1088
00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:11,575
before it's being approved Tim

1089
00:35:11,575 --> 00:35:13,811
would go through it, and if he

1090
00:35:13,811 --> 00:35:15,012
sees, like what Peter was

1091
00:35:15,012 --> 00:35:16,614
saying is, if one township

1092
00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:19,150
wants to have something in

1093
00:35:19,150 --> 00:35:20,618
particular in there, he would

1094
00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:22,220
just add it for everybody. So,

1095
00:35:22,220 --> 00:35:23,554
if this township wants to use

1096
00:35:23,554 --> 00:35:25,556
that clause or whatever, or

1097
00:35:25,556 --> 00:35:27,124
that particular cross section

1098
00:35:27,124 --> 00:35:29,860
for a road or for, blah, blah, They could use that

1099
00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:31,161
detail in particular. So it

1100
00:35:31,161 --> 00:35:33,464
would be more, like, total

1101
00:35:33,464 --> 00:35:34,966
document where you can use the

1102
00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:36,633
LA five instead of A four and

1103
00:35:36,633 --> 00:35:37,835
blah, blah, blah. So that's, it

1104
00:35:37,835 --> 00:35:39,036
sounded like a very good idea.

1105
00:35:39,036 --> 00:35:40,338
Okay, yeah, sounds, sounds

1106
00:35:40,338 --> 00:35:42,907
good. And right now we nothing.

1107
00:35:42,907 --> 00:35:44,141
So that's the hard thing where

1108
00:35:44,141 --> 00:35:45,809
people ask us questions and.

1109
00:35:45,809 --> 00:35:48,746
Yeah. We don't even know what to give them. So, that's

1110
00:35:48,746 --> 00:35:50,915
great. Thank you. Alright.

1111
00:35:50,915 --> 00:35:52,483
Thank you very much for your

1112
00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:54,084
report. Okay, you heard the

1113
00:35:54,084 --> 00:35:56,020
motion earlier. All all in

1114
00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:59,523
favor. Carrie, thank you.

1115
00:35:59,523 --> 00:36:02,026
Alright. Now, we're onto public

1116
00:36:02,026 --> 00:36:05,997
works. Um oh, sorry. Who has

1117
00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:07,598
got Councilor Madden? If you

1118
00:36:07,598 --> 00:36:10,234
could please put Move by

1119
00:36:10,234 --> 00:36:11,468
myself, second and by Council

1120
00:36:11,468 --> 00:36:12,770
Winsing, the Committee of the

1121
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:16,540
Whole received report PW 2022

1122
00:36:16,540 --> 00:36:18,075
dash zero four. The Department

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00:36:18,075 --> 00:36:19,510
of Work Plan Update. February

1124
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:21,979
2022 from the Public Works

1125
00:36:21,979 --> 00:36:23,147
Department for information

1126
00:36:23,147 --> 00:36:24,749
purposes only. Thank you

1127
00:36:24,749 --> 00:36:25,916
Councillor Madden. Go ahead

1128
00:36:25,916 --> 00:36:28,019
Tim. Welcome. Thank you

1129
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:32,556
Council. Um so, we started off

1130
00:36:32,556 --> 00:36:35,960
in 2022 with a rocky start with

1131
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,929
Omicron. Um luckily with the

1132
00:36:38,929 --> 00:36:41,599
fire department we're able to

1133
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,068
procure some rapid testing

1134
00:36:44,068 --> 00:36:46,103
tests. So we rolled that out to

1135
00:36:46,103 --> 00:36:49,573
each of the work sites. And we

1136
00:36:49,573 --> 00:36:51,409
built stations there that

1137
00:36:51,409 --> 00:36:53,444
automatically recorded as

1138
00:36:53,444 --> 00:36:56,614
people did tests. Uh this was

1139
00:36:56,614 --> 00:36:58,114
very successful and we actually

1140
00:36:58,114 --> 00:37:01,786
caught a lot of false sorry,

1141
00:37:01,786 --> 00:37:04,021
we, we caught a lot of cases

1142
00:37:04,021 --> 00:37:06,123
that were asymptomatic. So,

1143
00:37:06,123 --> 00:37:08,092
people who had no symptoms

1144
00:37:08,092 --> 00:37:09,626
whatsoever, and if they didn't

1145
00:37:09,626 --> 00:37:10,761
test, they would have just gone

1146
00:37:10,761 --> 00:37:12,062
to work and spread it to the

1147
00:37:12,062 --> 00:37:13,664
next person. So, very

1148
00:37:13,664 --> 00:37:15,532
successful and we thank the

1149
00:37:15,532 --> 00:37:17,501
fire department for helping us

1150
00:37:17,501 --> 00:37:19,970
out to get those tests and we

1151
00:37:19,970 --> 00:37:21,472
had really good uptake as well.

1152
00:37:21,472 --> 00:37:25,142
It was a voluntary program and

1153
00:37:25,142 --> 00:37:27,912
we had a good participation

1154
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:29,513
through all of the all of the

1155
00:37:29,513 --> 00:37:32,616
departments and I thank all of

1156
00:37:32,616 --> 00:37:35,052
them for for doing the right

1157
00:37:35,052 --> 00:37:40,624
thing and testing to keep their co-workers safe. Um you

1158
00:37:40,624 --> 00:37:42,159
can see the graph there, the

1159
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,761
uptake, and it's dropped off

1160
00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:46,931
now. Um the we haven't had any

1161
00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:49,500
positives for quite a few

1162
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:57,208
weeks. Um and we expect that to drop off.

1163
00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:58,742
People are less worried about

1164
00:37:58,742 --> 00:38:00,878
it now. We've also the people

1165
00:38:00,878 --> 00:38:03,347
who have been positive aren't

1166
00:38:03,347 --> 00:38:05,483
going to be positive again. Uh

1167
00:38:05,483 --> 00:38:08,118
so it's it's going in the right

1168
00:38:08,118 --> 00:38:09,653
direction and we're really glad

1169
00:38:09,653 --> 00:38:11,288
that we got this out at the

1170
00:38:11,288 --> 00:38:14,658
very start. Um onto the road.

1171
00:38:14,658 --> 00:38:17,695
So the roads department the

1172
00:38:17,695 --> 00:38:19,162
blade installs that were done

1173
00:38:19,162 --> 00:38:21,499
in twenty twenty1 were very

1174
00:38:21,499 --> 00:38:23,167
successful. So it's saving us a

1175
00:38:23,167 --> 00:38:24,902
lot on salt, sand and grit. Um

1176
00:38:24,902 --> 00:38:28,038
on the gravel roads especially

1177
00:38:28,038 --> 00:38:30,206
and as you've probably noticed

1178
00:38:30,206 --> 00:38:31,909
with our recent weather, it

1179
00:38:31,909 --> 00:38:33,477
gives us a good amount of

1180
00:38:33,477 --> 00:38:35,980
traction when you're on those

1181
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:40,217
gravel roads.

1182
00:38:40,217 --> 00:38:41,419
we've had this isn't in the

1183
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:45,856
report because it's been very recent but our the recent

1184
00:38:45,856 --> 00:38:47,291
weather we've had starting on

1185
00:38:47,291 --> 00:38:50,761
Friday all of the workers have

1186
00:38:50,761 --> 00:38:53,431
been doing fairly regular 12

1187
00:38:53,431 --> 00:38:54,932
hour shifts with 3 AM starts

1188
00:38:54,932 --> 00:38:58,035
snow removal they did a really

1189
00:38:58,035 --> 00:38:59,136
good job just before Christmas

1190
00:38:59,136 --> 00:39:01,639
making sure that all the

1191
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,139
streets were clear for for

1192
00:39:03,139 --> 00:39:05,275
Christmas so everyone can have

1193
00:39:05,275 --> 00:39:06,743
those those get togethers when

1194
00:39:06,743 --> 00:39:09,680
they you know around

1195
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,148
restrictions. Um so the team's

1196
00:39:11,148 --> 00:39:12,450
been doing really really well.

1197
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:14,618
And we really appreciate their

1198
00:39:14,618 --> 00:39:19,657
work. so we also have we're

1199
00:39:19,657 --> 00:39:22,092
moving on to fleet. We have the

1200
00:39:22,092 --> 00:39:23,661
main problem that we've had is

1201
00:39:23,661 --> 00:39:26,230
with the Maxville sidewalk

1202
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:28,098
tractor. Uh so luckily we held

1203
00:39:28,098 --> 00:39:30,868
onto the old sidewalk tractor

1204
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:32,236
and that had been doing duty

1205
00:39:32,236 --> 00:39:34,538
for us. Uh that tractor's now

1206
00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:36,106
back in service. Uh and that

1207
00:39:36,106 --> 00:39:38,476
mechanical issue seemed to be

1208
00:39:38,476 --> 00:39:40,211
resolved. I think it was

1209
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:43,447
electronic actually. So that's

1210
00:39:43,447 --> 00:39:45,950
all resolved now. Uh we have

1211
00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:48,452
had minor issues with the

1212
00:39:48,452 --> 00:39:50,888
tandems that is indicative of

1213
00:39:50,888 --> 00:39:52,989
just our aging fleet. Um so now

1214
00:39:52,989 --> 00:39:54,892
that we've approved to get the

1215
00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:56,961
extra new tandems that should

1216
00:39:56,961 --> 00:39:59,563
go quite away to alleviating

1217
00:39:59,563 --> 00:40:03,534
that issue.

1218
00:40:03,534 --> 00:40:05,302
than in actually moving on to

1219
00:40:05,302 --> 00:40:06,604
water and sewer. So in

1220
00:40:06,604 --> 00:40:10,040
Alexandria we had two breaks

1221
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,675
two water breaks, both on

1222
00:40:11,675 --> 00:40:13,978
Dominion Street that we brought

1223
00:40:13,978 --> 00:40:16,380
in we had to bring in some

1224
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:17,548
contractors to help help us fix

1225
00:40:17,548 --> 00:40:18,749
that as well to operate the

1226
00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:22,620
backhoes and excavate. Um both

1227
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:26,023
breaks were at valve stems. So,

1228
00:40:26,023 --> 00:40:27,958
it's on there on their

1229
00:40:27,958 --> 00:40:30,761
connection side. Um and both

1230
00:40:30,761 --> 00:40:32,897
the teams responded. We didn't

1231
00:40:32,897 --> 00:40:34,064
have any boil water advisories

1232
00:40:34,064 --> 00:40:35,432
or anything like that. No no

1233
00:40:35,432 --> 00:40:39,270
issues with but the guys did

1234
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:42,373
well to respond to those issues

1235
00:40:42,373 --> 00:40:44,107
we are fine tuning the water

1236
00:40:44,107 --> 00:40:45,543
dosing, sorry, the chemical

1237
00:40:45,543 --> 00:40:47,411
dosing in the Alexandria water

1238
00:40:47,411 --> 00:40:49,480
treatment plant and bringing in

1239
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,417
a consultant to try and get a

1240
00:40:53,417 --> 00:40:54,885
an outside view of what we're

1241
00:40:54,885 --> 00:40:56,219
doing and make sure that we can

1242
00:40:56,219 --> 00:41:00,357
really optimize those dosing of

1243
00:41:00,357 --> 00:41:01,825
the of the water as it comes

1244
00:41:01,825 --> 00:41:06,630
in. We have a

1245
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:09,600
low chlorine them. Angela will

1246
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,502
go more into detail later. I'll

1247
00:41:11,502 --> 00:41:13,137
let her explain it so I don't

1248
00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:15,472
bungle it but but basically

1249
00:41:15,472 --> 00:41:17,141
we're we're fine tuning the

1250
00:41:17,141 --> 00:41:17,875
chemical dosing in the

1251
00:41:17,875 --> 00:41:20,043
Alexandria water plant. On the

1252
00:41:20,043 --> 00:41:22,079
sewage side the team has been

1253
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:24,915
doing a really good job of

1254
00:41:24,915 --> 00:41:27,451
identifying Dean specifically,

1255
00:41:27,451 --> 00:41:29,720
identifying and plugging leaks

1256
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:31,722
in the sewage system. So we're

1257
00:41:31,722 --> 00:41:32,957
getting a lot of water

1258
00:41:32,957 --> 00:41:33,991
infiltration with roots going

1259
00:41:33,991 --> 00:41:39,163
into pipes and just the

1260
00:41:39,163 --> 00:41:41,532
expansion contraction getting

1261
00:41:41,532 --> 00:41:42,465
breaks in the pipes here and

1262
00:41:42,465 --> 00:41:45,402
there. So, we CCTV those in the

1263
00:41:45,402 --> 00:41:48,104
spring of twenty twenty and in

1264
00:41:48,104 --> 00:41:51,408
the autumn and over the winter

1265
00:41:51,408 --> 00:41:53,477
as well have been having

1266
00:41:53,477 --> 00:41:55,279
contractors basically plugged

1267
00:41:55,279 --> 00:41:57,281
the holes in those pipes and

1268
00:41:57,281 --> 00:41:58,615
what that means is that with

1269
00:41:58,615 --> 00:42:00,050
less water infiltration into

1270
00:42:00,050 --> 00:42:02,620
the sewage system that eases

1271
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:05,522
the load on our On our back

1272
00:42:05,522 --> 00:42:08,058
end, on our lagoons. Uh so

1273
00:42:08,058 --> 00:42:09,827
that's been really good. Uh we

1274
00:42:09,827 --> 00:42:12,663
did a 90 meter section. Um that

1275
00:42:12,663 --> 00:42:16,132
was relined in the hole. And we

1276
00:42:16,132 --> 00:42:18,702
plan to do more in twenty

1277
00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:20,337
twenty-two. Uh we had a power

1278
00:42:20,337 --> 00:42:21,805
outage on December 11th. Uh I

1279
00:42:21,805 --> 00:42:24,341
believe we also had a power

1280
00:42:24,341 --> 00:42:25,642
outage. I can't remember the

1281
00:42:25,642 --> 00:42:28,145
date. Um that was very brief.

1282
00:42:28,145 --> 00:42:31,949
Uh but the teams hooked up the

1283
00:42:31,949 --> 00:42:32,749
generators and pumps that were

1284
00:42:32,749 --> 00:42:33,884
needed to make sure that we

1285
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:35,285
don't get any backups anywhere.

1286
00:42:35,285 --> 00:42:38,622
Um so it was really and a good

1287
00:42:38,622 --> 00:42:40,924
test about emergency, emergency

1288
00:42:40,924 --> 00:42:44,895
response. In Maxville, as Jacob

1289
00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:47,197
mentioned, we still have 49

1290
00:42:47,197 --> 00:42:50,234
residents who haven't hooked up

1291
00:42:50,234 --> 00:42:52,236
for whatever reason, various

1292
00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:54,538
reasons as we went over before.

1293
00:42:54,538 --> 00:42:56,607
Um and the bit, they have been

1294
00:42:56,607 --> 00:42:58,442
sent a letter that they will be

1295
00:42:58,442 --> 00:43:00,511
starting to be billed in early

1296
00:43:00,511 --> 00:43:04,047
twenty twenty-two. So, what's

1297
00:43:04,047 --> 00:43:07,017
that? Um so, at the landfill.

1298
00:43:07,017 --> 00:43:10,353
We had to modify the way that

1299
00:43:10,353 --> 00:43:14,023
the the waste was the waste was

1300
00:43:14,023 --> 00:43:16,460
sitting so we could manage it

1301
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:19,296
better in the future. Um not

1302
00:43:19,296 --> 00:43:20,664
manage it better but just deal

1303
00:43:20,664 --> 00:43:21,999
with the amount that we've got.

1304
00:43:21,999 --> 00:43:24,234
Basically as the piles get

1305
00:43:24,234 --> 00:43:25,535
higher it all needed to be not

1306
00:43:25,535 --> 00:43:27,271
all of it but a portion needed

1307
00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:30,106
to be moved and consolidated in

1308
00:43:30,106 --> 00:43:32,575
one area. Um so that was

1309
00:43:32,575 --> 00:43:35,913
completed early this year.

1310
00:43:35,913 --> 00:43:39,516
moving on to drainage. Uh we

1311
00:43:39,516 --> 00:43:43,387
did 53 kilometres of of drain

1312
00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:46,523
in the twenty twenty-one 2022

1313
00:43:46,523 --> 00:43:48,358
season. Uh sorry by the end of

1314
00:43:48,358 --> 00:43:50,460
the season that is. Um oh

1315
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:53,197
sorry, fifty-three, yeah,

1316
00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:54,765
5-three kilometres of grain

1317
00:43:54,765 --> 00:43:58,569
that would be maintained. Um

1318
00:43:58,569 --> 00:44:01,038
thanks to Zoe's been managing

1319
00:44:01,038 --> 00:44:02,539
all that and doing really well.

1320
00:44:02,539 --> 00:44:06,543
Uh with the new bylaw that was

1321
00:44:06,543 --> 00:44:08,946
introduced for the the policy

1322
00:44:08,946 --> 00:44:11,915
of only accepting only

1323
00:44:11,915 --> 00:44:13,150
accepting requests to maintain

1324
00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:15,486
a drain before a certain date

1325
00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:17,621
of the year is really going to

1326
00:44:17,621 --> 00:44:19,022
help that. So we're going to

1327
00:44:19,022 --> 00:44:20,991
have a much smoother year in

1328
00:44:20,991 --> 00:44:22,626
the twenty twenty-two, 20

1329
00:44:22,626 --> 00:44:25,462
twenty-three season, which is

1330
00:44:25,462 --> 00:44:26,229
good. We look forward to that.

1331
00:44:26,229 --> 00:44:30,233
Um And then onto rare. So rare

1332
00:44:30,233 --> 00:44:31,535
has been doing well. Uh selling

1333
00:44:31,535 --> 00:44:33,470
commodities as per the CIF

1334
00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:34,204
pricing which included there

1335
00:44:34,204 --> 00:44:37,641
for your reference. Um we've

1336
00:44:37,641 --> 00:44:38,976
signed hazardous waste

1337
00:44:38,976 --> 00:44:43,080
agreements in

1338
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:43,347
Sorry,

1339
00:44:43,347 --> 00:44:43,947
we've signed some

1340
00:44:43,947 --> 00:44:44,882
hazardous waste agreements so

1341
00:44:44,882 --> 00:44:46,950
we can get subsidized for

1342
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:48,618
taking the hazardous waste. We

1343
00:44:48,618 --> 00:44:50,620
provide that service to the

1344
00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:53,457
community Um the next date will

1345
00:44:53,457 --> 00:44:56,627
be in early April. Um the blue

1346
00:44:56,627 --> 00:45:00,063
box regulation. Uh there's

1347
00:45:00,063 --> 00:45:01,632
ongoing webinars and there's

1348
00:45:01,632 --> 00:45:03,167
actually even another one today

1349
00:45:03,167 --> 00:45:04,601
trying to figure out how

1350
00:45:04,601 --> 00:45:06,336
exactly this transition's going

1351
00:45:06,336 --> 00:45:09,439
to work. Um that will basically

1352
00:45:09,439 --> 00:45:11,208
move full responsibility for

1353
00:45:11,208 --> 00:45:15,913
recycling to the producers Um

1354
00:45:15,913 --> 00:45:17,514
and there's certain thresholds

1355
00:45:17,514 --> 00:45:18,916
that figure out what

1356
00:45:18,916 --> 00:45:20,050
requirements there are for

1357
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:21,651
producers depending on how much

1358
00:45:21,651 --> 00:45:23,153
that they actually how much

1359
00:45:23,153 --> 00:45:28,358
they actually make. Um so we

1360
00:45:28,358 --> 00:45:29,693
our next milestone for that is

1361
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:32,029
we have to register as a

1362
00:45:32,029 --> 00:45:33,530
processor in late April.

1363
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:35,164
Basically what that means is

1364
00:45:35,164 --> 00:45:37,701
that we're putting out we're

1365
00:45:37,701 --> 00:45:40,070
going on a a database that

1366
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:41,738
tells these processes who are

1367
00:45:41,738 --> 00:45:43,640
going to be responsible that we

1368
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,877
have a a waste sorting facility

1369
00:45:46,877 --> 00:45:49,413
here and they may approach us

1370
00:45:49,413 --> 00:45:52,049
to see how that can fit into

1371
00:45:52,049 --> 00:45:53,150
their responsibility in the

1372
00:45:53,150 --> 00:45:55,452
future. Uh we don't transition

1373
00:45:55,452 --> 00:45:57,154
until twenty twenty-five So

1374
00:45:57,154 --> 00:46:00,224
there's quite a way until that

1375
00:46:00,224 --> 00:46:01,825
responsibility actually moves

1376
00:46:01,825 --> 00:46:05,629
to them. We also have to repair

1377
00:46:05,629 --> 00:46:07,064
some items for insurance.

1378
00:46:07,064 --> 00:46:09,166
There's two exterior walls that

1379
00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:12,069
still need to be done. That

1380
00:46:12,069 --> 00:46:14,872
we're going to do this year. Uh

1381
00:46:14,872 --> 00:46:15,939
we did get one successful

1382
00:46:15,939 --> 00:46:20,611
quote. Um but it we if that

1383
00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:24,214
quote is too high. We may

1384
00:46:24,214 --> 00:46:26,115
actually do this in house. It

1385
00:46:26,115 --> 00:46:28,585
is fairly simple work. We might

1386
00:46:28,585 --> 00:46:30,186
have some of the public works

1387
00:46:30,186 --> 00:46:32,656
guys join forces with rare

1388
00:46:32,656 --> 00:46:34,358
there and and get this work

1389
00:46:34,358 --> 00:46:38,528
done. that's pretty much it?

1390
00:46:38,528 --> 00:46:40,163
Anybody have any questions?

1391
00:46:40,163 --> 00:46:42,766
Okay, go ahead to Council

1392
00:46:42,766 --> 00:46:44,768
Wensing, then Councillor

1393
00:46:44,768 --> 00:46:58,048
Massey.

1394
00:46:58,048 --> 00:47:02,418
Wow. Nice. PSA Mira Tim is

1395
00:47:02,418 --> 00:47:05,389
really easy to read, easy to

1396
00:47:05,389 --> 00:47:07,724
focus on. I suggest like that

1397
00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:08,926
I'm looking at these exterior

1398
00:47:08,926 --> 00:47:10,159
walls and I know where they are

1399
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:13,330
but maybe putting like a a

1400
00:47:13,330 --> 00:47:14,898
blocker because I know I think

1401
00:47:14,898 --> 00:47:17,067
people are stashing stuff on

1402
00:47:17,067 --> 00:47:18,602
that wall and that white

1403
00:47:18,602 --> 00:47:20,203
deteriorated like that. So if

1404
00:47:20,203 --> 00:47:22,039
you put a stopper or a barrier

1405
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:22,673
before that ball, I think it.

1406
00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:28,545
Ballards or something.

1407
00:47:28,545 --> 00:47:30,981
Yeah, go ahead. And a few years

1408
00:47:30,981 --> 00:47:32,549
ago, four, five years ago, I

1409
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:34,017
had the previous public works

1410
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:37,054
guide to look into buying a a

1411
00:47:37,054 --> 00:47:39,089
screen to put on that fence.

1412
00:47:39,089 --> 00:47:39,823
You know, just to block off

1413
00:47:39,823 --> 00:47:42,960
because sometimes it gets

1414
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,060
disorganized a little bit in

1415
00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:45,428
that yard. You would just block

1416
00:47:45,428 --> 00:47:47,497
that view from resident walking

1417
00:47:47,497 --> 00:47:49,166
by or something. You just some

1418
00:47:49,166 --> 00:47:51,234
days look worse than other.

1419
00:47:51,234 --> 00:47:52,836
It's just like a screen that

1420
00:47:52,836 --> 00:47:53,736
you would put up on the fence

1421
00:47:53,736 --> 00:47:55,605
and just, you know, you know

1422
00:47:55,605 --> 00:47:56,272
what I mean? Like, yes, yeah.

1423
00:47:56,272 --> 00:47:58,875
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we can plant

1424
00:47:58,875 --> 00:48:02,446
trees there.

1425
00:48:02,446 --> 00:48:04,114
Go ahead, Councillor Madden.

1426
00:48:04,114 --> 00:48:05,782
Thank you, Deputy Mayor. Um

1427
00:48:05,782 --> 00:48:07,584
Tim, just a quick question

1428
00:48:07,584 --> 00:48:09,619
about calendars. Waste

1429
00:48:09,619 --> 00:48:11,621
calendars, information for the

1430
00:48:11,621 --> 00:48:12,355
community. We have any dates or

1431
00:48:12,355 --> 00:48:13,890
any info on when that's coming

1432
00:48:13,890 --> 00:48:16,493
out? I thought that they were

1433
00:48:16,493 --> 00:48:17,728
already out but I could check

1434
00:48:17,728 --> 00:48:21,131
on that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah,

1435
00:48:21,131 --> 00:48:23,600
they went a month ago. Really?

1436
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,168
Not a lot actually made it. We

1437
00:48:25,168 --> 00:48:25,702
need to talk about

1438
00:48:25,702 --> 00:48:28,071
communications to my house.

1439
00:48:28,071 --> 00:48:33,610
Yeah. Just thank you.

1440
00:48:33,610 --> 00:48:35,512
I I didn't get one either.

1441
00:48:35,512 --> 00:48:40,550
Yeah, it's on the mail. What?

1442
00:48:40,550 --> 00:48:43,020
No. They opened the website.

1443
00:48:43,020 --> 00:48:50,961
Yeah. There you go. They were mailed? Yeah.

1444
00:48:50,961 --> 00:48:54,664
Okay so but how, what, what

1445
00:48:54,664 --> 00:48:58,468
happens if your tax bill is is

1446
00:48:58,468 --> 00:48:59,403
paid by your financial

1447
00:48:59,403 --> 00:49:13,550
institution.

1448
00:49:13,550 --> 00:49:17,387
Does that come from you Kim? Is

1449
00:49:17,387 --> 00:49:22,559
that, does that come from you?

1450
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:26,229
The final tax bill like once

1451
00:49:26,229 --> 00:49:31,701
it, if it's No, so, so, how do

1452
00:49:31,701 --> 00:49:33,002
we, how do we make sure we

1453
00:49:33,002 --> 00:49:33,837
don't miss people? I guess is

1454
00:49:33,837 --> 00:49:37,074
what I'm, is what I'm, because

1455
00:49:37,074 --> 00:49:38,875
if we, if two of us were

1456
00:49:38,875 --> 00:49:40,477
missed, in this small group,

1457
00:49:40,477 --> 00:49:41,812
and you didn't get one either,

1458
00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:43,479
then that means probably a lot

1459
00:49:43,479 --> 00:49:52,756
of people were missed.

1460
00:49:52,756 --> 00:49:55,992
all of your survival sorting

1461
00:49:55,992 --> 00:50:17,180
and

1462
00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:19,149
I'm also concerned about the

1463
00:50:19,149 --> 00:50:28,525
fact that

1464
00:50:28,525 --> 00:50:29,493
Even though he nailed it, he

1465
00:50:29,493 --> 00:50:33,029
needs to go We're monitoring

1466
00:50:33,029 --> 00:50:35,165
that and I I repeated it again.

1467
00:50:35,165 --> 00:50:39,002
I

1468
00:50:39,002 --> 00:50:56,486
Yes, go ahead, Councillor.

1469
00:50:56,486 --> 00:51:01,525
Something. Yeah.

1470
00:51:01,525 --> 00:51:03,627
not in not in urban areas.

1471
00:51:03,627 --> 00:51:05,862
Can I can I make a suggestion?

1472
00:51:05,862 --> 00:51:08,899
Sarah you can address this at your SMT, your senior

1473
00:51:08,899 --> 00:51:11,001
management team and I mean

1474
00:51:11,001 --> 00:51:13,837
maybe for these kinds of things

1475
00:51:13,837 --> 00:51:15,539
we like a direct mail. You have

1476
00:51:15,539 --> 00:51:16,873
everyone's address. A direct

1477
00:51:16,873 --> 00:51:22,345
mail is the way to go. It's not that expensive. Go

1478
00:51:22,345 --> 00:51:37,027
ahead.

1479
00:51:37,027 --> 00:51:43,967
And they

1480
00:51:43,967 --> 00:51:45,168
That's a reward they have. You

1481
00:51:45,168 --> 00:51:46,903
have to have your where you

1482
00:51:46,903 --> 00:51:50,607
work and your home.

1483
00:51:50,607 --> 00:51:53,677
ah Just go ahead. Kim? What

1484
00:51:53,677 --> 00:51:56,146
we've tried to do is for the

1485
00:51:56,146 --> 00:51:57,614
letters that have come back to

1486
00:51:57,614 --> 00:51:59,416
us without a peel blocks.

1487
00:51:59,416 --> 00:52:01,151
Whatever email, whatever phone

1488
00:52:01,151 --> 00:52:02,552
number we have on the table,

1489
00:52:02,552 --> 00:52:03,887
we've tried to contact people

1490
00:52:03,887 --> 00:52:04,921
but really it's the bonus

1491
00:52:04,921 --> 00:52:06,356
responsibility to ensure that

1492
00:52:06,356 --> 00:52:10,627
those efforts we have tried.

1493
00:52:10,627 --> 00:52:14,631
and above and beyond. Yep.

1494
00:52:14,631 --> 00:52:16,499
Okay. I I can confirm as well

1495
00:52:16,499 --> 00:52:17,967
that those calendars were sent

1496
00:52:17,967 --> 00:52:20,070
out in December with Canada

1497
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:28,612
Post. Jessica must be watching.

1498
00:52:28,612 --> 00:52:31,481
Okay. Sorry. Who wanted?

1499
00:52:31,481 --> 00:52:33,683
Another thing that I've been

1500
00:52:33,683 --> 00:52:35,185
asking a few years ago, it's

1501
00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:36,586
just that to maybe replenish

1502
00:52:36,586 --> 00:52:39,089
their some of the people's blue

1503
00:52:39,089 --> 00:52:40,589
boxes. Cuz some of them are

1504
00:52:40,589 --> 00:52:42,225
pretty damaged. And I I know

1505
00:52:42,225 --> 00:52:43,293
there's money in the budget for

1506
00:52:43,293 --> 00:52:46,062
rare or like or something. Like

1507
00:52:46,062 --> 00:52:48,465
I don't say replenish everybody

1508
00:52:48,465 --> 00:52:50,100
but if you replenish 50 a year

1509
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,301
or something that denied it

1510
00:52:51,301 --> 00:52:52,736
down a road. Cuz if you go take

1511
00:52:52,736 --> 00:52:55,271
a road tour today and you look

1512
00:52:55,271 --> 00:52:56,172
at the boxes. Some of them are

1513
00:52:56,172 --> 00:52:59,442
like dirt tape. Like they're

1514
00:52:59,442 --> 00:53:01,277
barely holding on. So that

1515
00:53:01,277 --> 00:53:02,612
people would appreciate getting

1516
00:53:02,612 --> 00:53:03,680
in with us again because we

1517
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,916
stopped it.

1518
00:53:06,916 --> 00:53:07,216
Okay, any

1519
00:53:07,216 --> 00:53:08,217
other comments? Go

1520
00:53:08,217 --> 00:53:09,819
ahead. Yep, go ahead. Yeah, no,

1521
00:53:09,819 --> 00:53:10,754
I was just going to bring up if

1522
00:53:10,754 --> 00:53:12,389
we could, if we could do

1523
00:53:12,389 --> 00:53:16,226
something, I don't know what,

1524
00:53:16,226 --> 00:53:17,560
to help with Canada Post,

1525
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,928
because I have been to

1526
00:53:18,928 --> 00:53:20,229
Hawkesbury. I have spoken to

1527
00:53:20,229 --> 00:53:22,365
Ottawa. I have diggity as much

1528
00:53:22,365 --> 00:53:25,935
as I can because in our part of

1529
00:53:25,935 --> 00:53:27,070
the world, we no longer put

1530
00:53:27,070 --> 00:53:28,738
mail in the box. And when I

1531
00:53:28,738 --> 00:53:29,672
went to Hawkesbury, they said,

1532
00:53:29,672 --> 00:53:30,473
oh no, we stopped picking up

1533
00:53:30,473 --> 00:53:33,476
mail three years ago. Nobody

1534
00:53:33,476 --> 00:53:34,143
mentioned that to us. Uh, they

1535
00:53:34,143 --> 00:53:35,812
don't have to put a flag don't

1536
00:53:35,812 --> 00:53:37,913
have to do anything anymore. Um

1537
00:53:37,913 --> 00:53:39,549
neighbors have had to build

1538
00:53:39,549 --> 00:53:40,617
second mailboxes because we

1539
00:53:40,617 --> 00:53:41,951
don't stop there anymore even

1540
00:53:41,951 --> 00:53:43,086
though we stopped there for 20

1541
00:53:43,086 --> 00:53:44,521
years. So I'm just wondering

1542
00:53:44,521 --> 00:53:46,122
since you're actually, I mean,

1543
00:53:46,122 --> 00:53:47,691
it's one thing if we get mailed

1544
00:53:47,691 --> 00:53:48,758
because he doesn't feel like

1545
00:53:48,758 --> 00:53:50,026
coming down our roads and we

1546
00:53:50,026 --> 00:53:51,161
only get mailed out twice a

1547
00:53:51,161 --> 00:53:53,997
week now. That we can live with

1548
00:53:53,997 --> 00:53:55,298
but if you actually have people

1549
00:53:55,298 --> 00:53:56,900
who are physically telling you

1550
00:53:56,900 --> 00:53:58,234
and I'm I know my parents have

1551
00:53:58,234 --> 00:53:59,169
gone through it which is why I

1552
00:53:59,169 --> 00:54:02,138
now drop em off in person. I

1553
00:54:02,138 --> 00:54:03,540
mailed it to you and I mean, to

1554
00:54:03,540 --> 00:54:04,207
get to anywhere in this

1555
00:54:04,207 --> 00:54:06,042
community it doesn't take three

1556
00:54:06,042 --> 00:54:08,878
weeks. And yes, they do go to

1557
00:54:08,878 --> 00:54:10,112
Ottawa and even Bank La Kilmail

1558
00:54:10,112 --> 00:54:11,914
no longer get sorted in Banklik

1559
00:54:11,914 --> 00:54:12,949
Hill. So, is there something

1560
00:54:12,949 --> 00:54:14,484
that we can do as our little

1561
00:54:14,484 --> 00:54:16,619
part of the world to even get

1562
00:54:16,619 --> 00:54:17,553
SD and G on board and say,

1563
00:54:17,553 --> 00:54:18,888
listen, we have to address

1564
00:54:18,888 --> 00:54:23,526
this. who are you asking?

1565
00:54:23,526 --> 00:54:26,529
Anybody. Anybody. Connection.

1566
00:54:26,529 --> 00:54:27,997
Well, maybe Councillor Manley

1567
00:54:27,997 --> 00:54:29,699
can answer that. Council dealt

1568
00:54:29,699 --> 00:54:32,402
with a Canada Post issue before

1569
00:54:32,402 --> 00:54:36,806
at Lough Kerry. Um and we we

1570
00:54:36,806 --> 00:54:41,711
used our MP Francis Dua. And it

1571
00:54:41,711 --> 00:54:43,913
was quite helpful. Yeah. He's

1572
00:54:43,913 --> 00:54:44,914
got a connection. He's got a

1573
00:54:44,914 --> 00:54:48,084
connection there. Okay. That might be the that might be

1574
00:54:48,084 --> 00:54:52,121
the route to go because it is a etcetera. So he was

1575
00:54:52,121 --> 00:54:53,790
very helpful with with sorting

1576
00:54:53,790 --> 00:54:55,057
out that problem. Well, I'm

1577
00:54:55,057 --> 00:54:57,160
having a conversation with him

1578
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,661
tomorrow so maybe. I'll ask.

1579
00:54:58,661 --> 00:55:00,095
Okay. Very good. Councilor

1580
00:55:00,095 --> 00:55:02,499
Madden. Thank you. Uh just

1581
00:55:02,499 --> 00:55:05,034
following Councillor Massey's

1582
00:55:05,034 --> 00:55:05,601
suggestion about the blue

1583
00:55:05,601 --> 00:55:07,136
boxes. Uh we might be able to

1584
00:55:07,136 --> 00:55:08,905
manage a trade-in program

1585
00:55:08,905 --> 00:55:10,407
pretty easily if they bring it

1586
00:55:10,407 --> 00:55:11,340
in and give them a new one and

1587
00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:12,208
that way we can actually get

1588
00:55:12,208 --> 00:55:13,877
them disposed of and set of

1589
00:55:13,877 --> 00:55:15,345
them trying to get them picked

1590
00:55:15,345 --> 00:55:18,448
up forever. Yes. Uh actually,

1591
00:55:18,448 --> 00:55:21,785
Jessica is pretty amazing if

1592
00:55:21,785 --> 00:55:22,919
anybody brings their blue box

1593
00:55:22,919 --> 00:55:27,157
too rare she keeps a list of

1594
00:55:27,157 --> 00:55:29,025
people who have taken a a blue

1595
00:55:29,025 --> 00:55:32,061
box and if you if you haven't

1596
00:55:32,061 --> 00:55:33,630
been abusing the privilege and

1597
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:35,932
it seems that it's just been

1598
00:55:35,932 --> 00:55:39,169
damaged through you know

1599
00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:41,538
incidentals then We just swap.

1600
00:55:41,538 --> 00:55:44,040
Yeah, we just swap it. Yeah. If

1601
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,375
there's anything that's just

1602
00:55:45,375 --> 00:55:46,876
incidental damage, we just swap

1603
00:55:46,876 --> 00:55:48,878
the blue box out. Um it's a

1604
00:55:48,878 --> 00:55:50,947
different matter if you want an

1605
00:55:50,947 --> 00:55:52,115
extra one or something like

1606
00:55:52,115 --> 00:55:53,283
that but if you give us a

1607
00:55:53,283 --> 00:55:54,083
broken one, we give you back

1608
00:55:54,083 --> 00:56:08,631
the

1609
00:56:08,631 --> 00:56:13,403
Yep. the mallet calendar. good

1610
00:56:13,403 --> 00:56:14,203
idea. You could be sure that

1611
00:56:14,203 --> 00:56:18,975
people don't know about that.

1612
00:56:18,975 --> 00:56:21,678
Okay, I just have one question

1613
00:56:21,678 --> 00:56:24,213
about we've been talking about

1614
00:56:24,213 --> 00:56:26,249
having a a conversation about

1615
00:56:26,249 --> 00:56:31,287
the rare plant in general, terms. Um because

1616
00:56:31,287 --> 00:56:32,655
twenty twenty-five is still

1617
00:56:32,655 --> 00:56:34,357
three years off. Is is that

1618
00:56:34,357 --> 00:56:39,162
coming? Yes. Uh it's it was a

1619
00:56:39,162 --> 00:56:40,229
little bit more complicated

1620
00:56:40,229 --> 00:56:41,698
than I thought. So, it's

1621
00:56:41,698 --> 00:56:42,499
going to be on Monday instead

1622
00:56:42,499 --> 00:56:44,300
of today. Sure, I think. That's

1623
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:45,634
great. I just wanted to know if

1624
00:56:45,634 --> 00:56:46,736
it was the conversation was

1625
00:56:46,736 --> 00:56:49,672
coming. Okay thank you very

1626
00:56:49,672 --> 00:56:50,874
much for your report. It was

1627
00:56:50,874 --> 00:56:52,876
very enlightening. If if nobody

1628
00:56:52,876 --> 00:56:58,214
has anything else. thank you.

1629
00:56:58,214 --> 00:57:00,215
Um okay, so the, you've heard

1630
00:57:00,215 --> 00:57:05,121
the motion all in favor of the

1631
00:57:05,121 --> 00:57:08,023
motion. Carrie, thank you. Uh

1632
00:57:08,023 --> 00:57:09,425
well, you I guess you might as

1633
00:57:09,425 --> 00:57:10,560
well stay up here because I

1634
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,597
think, oh no, you're doing the

1635
00:57:14,597 --> 00:57:14,830
Okay,

1636
00:57:14,830 --> 00:57:17,166
thank you, Angela. Um

1637
00:57:17,166 --> 00:57:20,970
Joanne. myself, seconded by

1638
00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:21,738
Councilor Noble, that the

1639
00:57:21,738 --> 00:57:23,439
committee, the whole received

1640
00:57:23,439 --> 00:57:25,475
staff report, number PW two

1641
00:57:25,475 --> 00:57:26,876
thousand and twenty-two dash

1642
00:57:26,876 --> 00:57:29,111
zero eight, the 2021 Alexandria

1643
00:57:29,111 --> 00:57:31,581
Drinking Water System, annual

1644
00:57:31,581 --> 00:57:32,215
and summary report for

1645
00:57:32,215 --> 00:57:34,617
information purposes. Thank

1646
00:57:34,617 --> 00:57:37,186
you, Councilor. Welcome. Thank

1647
00:57:37,186 --> 00:57:39,822
you, deputy mayor. Um I do just

1648
00:57:39,822 --> 00:57:40,990
want to say that there is a

1649
00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:42,625
small typo on here. Um I'm not

1650
00:57:42,625 --> 00:57:44,160
just presenting the Alexandria

1651
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,562
drinking water system. I'm

1652
00:57:45,562 --> 00:57:47,497
actually presenting both

1653
00:57:47,497 --> 00:57:48,197
Alexandria and Von Robertson.

1654
00:57:48,197 --> 00:57:50,600
You should have also received

1655
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,068
reports for both Alexandria

1656
00:57:52,068 --> 00:57:53,602
Anglin Robertson separately. Um

1657
00:57:53,602 --> 00:57:55,638
what I'll be presenting is just

1658
00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:56,973
a brief overview and I highly

1659
00:57:56,973 --> 00:57:57,774
recommend that you read the

1660
00:57:57,774 --> 00:58:00,977
full annual summary reports. So

1661
00:58:00,977 --> 00:58:04,747
starting in Alexandria, I'll be

1662
00:58:04,747 --> 00:58:06,349
going over a quick system

1663
00:58:06,349 --> 00:58:08,451
description, operational

1664
00:58:08,451 --> 00:58:09,953
performances, critical control

1665
00:58:09,953 --> 00:58:11,721
points, regulatory

1666
00:58:11,721 --> 00:58:13,723
non-compliances or

1667
00:58:13,723 --> 00:58:14,924
non-conformances, water

1668
00:58:14,924 --> 00:58:16,426
monitoring and testing,

1669
00:58:16,426 --> 00:58:18,528
auditing, inspections, and then

1670
00:58:18,528 --> 00:58:22,966
impacting changes. So in the

1671
00:58:22,966 --> 00:58:24,467
Alexandria system, it is a

1672
00:58:24,467 --> 00:58:26,636
class 3 water treatment, class

1673
00:58:26,636 --> 00:58:28,538
two distribution. We utilize

1674
00:58:28,538 --> 00:58:30,440
raw surface water from the mill

1675
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,108
pond and we have a rated

1676
00:58:32,108 --> 00:58:34,544
capacity of five thousand 616

1677
00:58:34,544 --> 00:58:36,546
cubic meters per day. We are

1678
00:58:36,546 --> 00:58:39,082
able to produce eight thousand

1679
00:58:39,082 --> 00:58:41,517
fourteen cubic meters per day

1680
00:58:41,517 --> 00:58:43,019
and the system is made up of

1681
00:58:43,019 --> 00:58:44,019
the water treatment plant, two

1682
00:58:44,019 --> 00:58:46,456
elevated storage tanks, two

1683
00:58:46,456 --> 00:58:48,091
separate distribution systems,

1684
00:58:48,091 --> 00:58:48,891
connected via transmission

1685
00:58:48,891 --> 00:58:50,760
main, and four standby

1686
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,427
generators at all of our

1687
00:58:51,427 --> 00:58:52,896
facilities to ensure that we've

1688
00:58:52,896 --> 00:58:55,565
got operations throughout.

1689
00:58:55,565 --> 00:58:57,500
there's also the distribution

1690
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:58,968
system which is comprised of

1691
00:58:58,968 --> 00:59:00,469
58. 8 kilometres of piping of

1692
00:59:00,469 --> 00:59:02,972
various sizes and types.

1693
00:59:02,972 --> 00:59:04,440
Isolation valves, pressure

1694
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,475
reducing valves, service

1695
00:59:05,475 --> 00:59:07,076
connections, and fire hydrants.

1696
00:59:07,076 --> 00:59:08,611
The chart below just gives you

1697
00:59:08,611 --> 00:59:10,213
basic summary of how it's split

1698
00:59:10,213 --> 00:59:11,447
up throughout Alexandria,

1699
00:59:11,447 --> 00:59:13,149
Maxwell, and along the

1700
00:59:13,149 --> 00:59:16,986
transmission, Maine. So for

1701
00:59:16,986 --> 00:59:18,755
operational performances, in

1702
00:59:18,755 --> 00:59:20,623
the raw water, we're only

1703
00:59:20,623 --> 00:59:22,124
consuming about 30. percent of

1704
00:59:22,124 --> 00:59:24,761
our raw intake capacity. We

1705
00:59:24,761 --> 00:59:26,228
have an average daily flow of

1706
00:59:26,228 --> 00:59:29,232
one thousand 707 cubic meters

1707
00:59:29,232 --> 00:59:31,467
per day. That's a maximum of

1708
00:59:31,467 --> 00:59:33,102
two thousand five hundred and

1709
00:59:33,102 --> 00:59:34,470
sixty-six cubic meters. We've

1710
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:38,041
noted some issues on the intake

1711
00:59:38,041 --> 00:59:38,541
where we we're getting

1712
00:59:38,541 --> 00:59:40,743
sedimentation build up around

1713
00:59:40,743 --> 00:59:42,512
our intake which has limited

1714
00:59:42,512 --> 00:59:43,946
some of our intakes. Whenever

1715
00:59:43,946 --> 00:59:46,349
we're pull water. We've had the

1716
00:59:46,349 --> 00:59:49,052
area cleaned a few times over

1717
00:59:49,052 --> 00:59:51,153
the last few years and we are

1718
00:59:51,153 --> 00:59:52,988
looking at remediation plan but

1719
00:59:52,988 --> 00:59:55,958
obviously, it's not as easy as

1720
00:59:55,958 --> 00:59:57,293
going in and dredging. Um we

1721
00:59:57,293 --> 00:59:59,462
have to contact different

1722
00:59:59,462 --> 01:00:01,397
levels of ministry and

1723
01:00:01,397 --> 01:00:03,966
government to be able to do the

1724
01:00:03,966 --> 01:00:06,169
work in the mill pond. We've

1725
01:00:06,169 --> 01:00:08,504
noted some increased algae in

1726
01:00:08,504 --> 01:00:10,039
the summer months between May

1727
01:00:10,039 --> 01:00:11,807
and October. As such, we're

1728
01:00:11,807 --> 01:00:13,443
part of the ministry sampling

1729
01:00:13,443 --> 01:00:15,411
program. Our highest notes

1730
01:00:15,411 --> 01:00:18,080
noted residuals occur in July

1731
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,582
and September. Now, although we

1732
01:00:20,582 --> 01:00:21,417
have it occurring in our raw

1733
01:00:21,417 --> 01:00:23,118
water, we're not seeing any

1734
01:00:23,118 --> 01:00:24,520
issue in our treated water

1735
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,154
which means our treatment

1736
01:00:25,154 --> 01:00:28,591
system is working as designed.

1737
01:00:28,591 --> 01:00:30,359
We have noted less processed

1738
01:00:30,359 --> 01:00:31,594
water throughout the treatment

1739
01:00:31,594 --> 01:00:33,663
process since our upgrades.

1740
01:00:33,663 --> 01:00:34,964
There have been no major

1741
01:00:34,964 --> 01:00:36,566
incidences. There have been

1742
01:00:36,566 --> 01:00:37,934
some minor issues with process

1743
01:00:37,934 --> 01:00:39,802
optimization and some minor

1744
01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:42,205
issues with small equipment

1745
01:00:42,205 --> 01:00:43,906
replacement. And there's been

1746
01:00:43,906 --> 01:00:47,110
no major quality issues noted.

1747
01:00:47,110 --> 01:00:49,612
The chart on the left is just

1748
01:00:49,612 --> 01:00:51,113
or on the right side is just a

1749
01:00:51,113 --> 01:00:52,882
summary of our flows that we

1750
01:00:52,882 --> 01:00:54,150
pull into the water treatment

1751
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:55,985
plants. Um on a monthly basis

1752
01:00:55,985 --> 01:01:00,423
throughout the year of 2021.

1753
01:01:00,423 --> 01:01:01,357
on our

1754
01:01:01,357 --> 01:01:02,991
treated waterside. We

1755
01:01:02,991 --> 01:01:05,461
are currently at about 19.

1756
01:01:05,461 --> 01:01:07,063
percent of our rated capacity.

1757
01:01:07,063 --> 01:01:08,064
Our average flow is about one

1758
01:01:08,064 --> 01:01:10,366
thousand 548 cubic metres per

1759
01:01:10,366 --> 01:01:11,968
day. Once again, we haven't

1760
01:01:11,968 --> 01:01:14,003
seen any major incidents

1761
01:01:14,003 --> 01:01:16,639
throughout 2021. we had some

1762
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:18,007
minor issues with equipment

1763
01:01:18,007 --> 01:01:19,575
failures but for the most part,

1764
01:01:19,575 --> 01:01:22,211
we had backups or spare parts

1765
01:01:22,211 --> 01:01:23,579
available on site for repair

1766
01:01:23,579 --> 01:01:26,082
and remediation. We've had some

1767
01:01:26,082 --> 01:01:27,550
issues with communication

1768
01:01:27,550 --> 01:01:30,620
failures. Once again, by some

1769
01:01:30,620 --> 01:01:32,354
small part issues. Um but there

1770
01:01:32,354 --> 01:01:33,823
was no process function that

1771
01:01:33,823 --> 01:01:36,058
was actually lost and it all it

1772
01:01:36,058 --> 01:01:37,159
triggered was manual operations

1773
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:37,960
of different facilities in

1774
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,096
different parts and pumps.

1775
01:01:40,096 --> 01:01:42,398
There's been no noted major

1776
01:01:42,398 --> 01:01:45,168
quality changes And there were

1777
01:01:45,168 --> 01:01:45,868
no adverse water quality

1778
01:01:45,868 --> 01:01:49,672
reports during this time. So in

1779
01:01:49,672 --> 01:01:52,875
the distribution for a metered

1780
01:01:52,875 --> 01:01:55,011
water, Alexandria accounts for

1781
01:01:55,011 --> 01:01:56,145
about 89% of our consumption

1782
01:01:56,145 --> 01:01:57,846
worth Maxwell accounts for

1783
01:01:57,846 --> 01:02:00,015
about eleven percent. We have a

1784
01:02:00,015 --> 01:02:02,418
total annual metered just over

1785
01:02:02,418 --> 01:02:03,553
three hundred and fifteen

1786
01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:07,490
thousand cubic meters per year.

1787
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:10,026
construction summary, we did

1788
01:02:10,026 --> 01:02:11,727
contract out all of our work,

1789
01:02:11,727 --> 01:02:14,096
which was a COVID precaution.

1790
01:02:14,096 --> 01:02:15,464
We had three water main breaks

1791
01:02:15,464 --> 01:02:17,099
and two service repairs in

1792
01:02:17,099 --> 01:02:18,634
2021, which is down from what

1793
01:02:18,634 --> 01:02:21,971
we would normally see. We do

1794
01:02:21,971 --> 01:02:22,738
residual monitoring, which is

1795
01:02:22,738 --> 01:02:24,606
mainly flushing. This is to

1796
01:02:24,606 --> 01:02:26,375
ensure that we have quality and

1797
01:02:26,375 --> 01:02:27,677
chlorine residuals out in the

1798
01:02:27,677 --> 01:02:29,078
distribution as required.

1799
01:02:29,078 --> 01:02:30,746
You'll see that in Alexandria,

1800
01:02:30,746 --> 01:02:32,515
we've flushed just over 13, 000

1801
01:02:32,515 --> 01:02:34,116
cubic meters per this in 2021.

1802
01:02:34,116 --> 01:02:37,053
And Maxwell, we flu about

1803
01:02:37,053 --> 01:02:38,754
2-six. Just over 26, 000 cubic

1804
01:02:38,754 --> 01:02:41,691
metres. Maxwell was a little

1805
01:02:41,691 --> 01:02:43,993
bit higher. Obviously as a knee

1806
01:02:43,993 --> 01:02:45,027
jerk reaction to the bow water

1807
01:02:45,027 --> 01:02:46,762
advisory we had in 2020. We

1808
01:02:46,762 --> 01:02:47,830
want to make sure that

1809
01:02:47,830 --> 01:02:50,099
everything is operating and

1810
01:02:50,099 --> 01:02:51,166
because we didn't have the full

1811
01:02:51,166 --> 01:02:53,436
system online yet we wanted to

1812
01:02:53,436 --> 01:02:54,737
make sure that our quality and

1813
01:02:54,737 --> 01:02:57,139
our water usage was upheld. Um

1814
01:02:57,139 --> 01:02:58,774
the different programs that we

1815
01:02:58,774 --> 01:03:00,042
run throughout the year. We

1816
01:03:00,042 --> 01:03:02,545
have corrosion control, spring

1817
01:03:02,545 --> 01:03:03,946
flushing, valve testing, fire

1818
01:03:03,946 --> 01:03:05,648
hydrant maintenance, and

1819
01:03:05,648 --> 01:03:09,418
infrastructure renewal.

1820
01:03:09,418 --> 01:03:13,155
Let's skip to the next batch.

1821
01:03:13,155 --> 01:03:15,624
as part of our system, we do,

1822
01:03:15,624 --> 01:03:16,359
as part of our quality

1823
01:03:16,359 --> 01:03:18,227
management system, we look at

1824
01:03:18,227 --> 01:03:19,729
different critical control

1825
01:03:19,729 --> 01:03:21,898
points. So, this is a basic

1826
01:03:21,898 --> 01:03:23,599
quick summary on critical

1827
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:26,636
control where we, excuse me,

1828
01:03:26,636 --> 01:03:29,138
these are points in the system

1829
01:03:29,138 --> 01:03:30,138
where we know we can have

1830
01:03:30,138 --> 01:03:32,107
issues that would impact the

1831
01:03:32,107 --> 01:03:34,043
treatment quality and it's

1832
01:03:34,043 --> 01:03:35,544
areas we can actually supply

1833
01:03:35,544 --> 01:03:38,047
control. So, in our

1834
01:03:38,047 --> 01:03:39,448
sedimentation, we use our

1835
01:03:39,448 --> 01:03:40,483
coagulant polymer dosing to

1836
01:03:40,483 --> 01:03:41,851
ensure that we remove

1837
01:03:41,851 --> 01:03:44,553
sedimentation. We only had one

1838
01:03:44,553 --> 01:03:46,055
of dosing problems which was

1839
01:03:46,055 --> 01:03:48,591
caused by maintenance. It was

1840
01:03:48,591 --> 01:03:49,591
caught mid process and

1841
01:03:49,591 --> 01:03:50,359
corrected. So, there's no

1842
01:03:50,359 --> 01:03:52,228
issues in quality going out to

1843
01:03:52,228 --> 01:03:54,163
the distribution. Disinfection,

1844
01:03:54,163 --> 01:03:57,600
we apply chlorine gas, dosing

1845
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,302
adjustments are basically due

1846
01:03:59,302 --> 01:04:01,003
to visual observations or

1847
01:04:01,003 --> 01:04:03,272
process observations. There's

1848
01:04:03,272 --> 01:04:03,940
some noted instabilities

1849
01:04:03,940 --> 01:04:05,640
throughout the years at

1850
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,143
different times due to seasonal

1851
01:04:07,143 --> 01:04:09,578
fluctuations. There's no

1852
01:04:09,578 --> 01:04:11,280
process failures and most

1853
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,084
issues were resolved.

1854
01:04:15,084 --> 01:04:15,417
descending

1855
01:04:15,417 --> 01:04:15,718
out to the

1856
01:04:15,718 --> 01:04:19,021
distribution.

1857
01:04:19,021 --> 01:04:20,890
The next would be secondary

1858
01:04:20,890 --> 01:04:23,426
residual boosting. Hey Angela.

1859
01:04:23,426 --> 01:04:25,160
Yeah. Councilor Master Wilt

1860
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,497
says. Mhm.

1861
01:04:28,497 --> 01:04:30,132
just before we get too far. On

1862
01:04:30,132 --> 01:04:32,001
the previous graph you showed

1863
01:04:32,001 --> 01:04:34,070
us, like I'm looking at the

1864
01:04:34,070 --> 01:04:36,738
2021 water loss. The water

1865
01:04:36,738 --> 01:04:39,008
loss. No the the previous like

1866
01:04:39,008 --> 01:04:42,912
yeah. So that that's some some

1867
01:04:42,912 --> 01:04:44,613
instances it's about 25% of our

1868
01:04:44,613 --> 01:04:49,518
total water produced. Yep. So

1869
01:04:49,518 --> 01:04:51,153
it's something we should be. I

1870
01:04:51,153 --> 01:04:52,888
know we've been working hard at

1871
01:04:52,888 --> 01:04:54,924
it but that's a lot of water

1872
01:04:54,924 --> 01:04:57,660
loss. So the water loss right

1873
01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:01,664
now is based on our metering

1874
01:05:01,664 --> 01:05:03,432
what we know that we use. There

1875
01:05:03,432 --> 01:05:05,534
are some areas we can kind of

1876
01:05:05,534 --> 01:05:07,403
build up on. Um there are some

1877
01:05:07,403 --> 01:05:08,604
issues. We do have older

1878
01:05:08,604 --> 01:05:10,739
infrastructure in Alexandria.

1879
01:05:10,739 --> 01:05:12,007
Okay. So there are losses. We

1880
01:05:12,007 --> 01:05:13,943
have started annual leak

1881
01:05:13,943 --> 01:05:15,978
detection. Okay. Um there's

1882
01:05:15,978 --> 01:05:17,380
always going to be a little bit

1883
01:05:17,380 --> 01:05:19,281
of loss somewhere. We are we

1884
01:05:19,281 --> 01:05:20,749
have brought it down from where

1885
01:05:20,749 --> 01:05:22,985
we were. Um obviously we target

1886
01:05:22,985 --> 01:05:24,653
to be under 15% but we're still

1887
01:05:24,653 --> 01:05:27,056
just above that. Is that like

1888
01:05:27,056 --> 01:05:29,592
I'm sure it's normal situation

1889
01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:31,494
for older infrastructure like

1890
01:05:31,494 --> 01:05:34,496
Yeah. Our neighbors. Yeah.

1891
01:05:34,496 --> 01:05:38,100
Perfect

1892
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:42,805
Go ahead. So where was my

1893
01:05:42,805 --> 01:05:50,613
rambling? Oops. Uh so oh yeah

1894
01:05:50,613 --> 01:05:53,248
so other critical control

1895
01:05:53,248 --> 01:05:56,085
points. So the Maxwell Booster

1896
01:05:56,085 --> 01:05:57,453
Um this is where we

1897
01:05:57,453 --> 01:05:59,221
reclorminate the water before

1898
01:05:59,221 --> 01:06:00,222
it goes to the Maxwell Water

1899
01:06:00,222 --> 01:06:01,357
Tower and then distributed to

1900
01:06:01,357 --> 01:06:03,292
the system. Um you'll notice

1901
01:06:03,292 --> 01:06:05,360
there's a small change in the

1902
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,096
trending on the charts after

1903
01:06:07,096 --> 01:06:09,765
June 17th. This was a change to

1904
01:06:09,765 --> 01:06:11,033
our trending and not a change

1905
01:06:11,033 --> 01:06:13,001
to our process. It was just the

1906
01:06:13,001 --> 01:06:15,471
way we were capturing the the

1907
01:06:15,471 --> 01:06:18,106
numbers. Um Right now, there's

1908
01:06:18,106 --> 01:06:19,508
no connection currently

1909
01:06:19,508 --> 01:06:20,942
available on our transmission

1910
01:06:20,942 --> 01:06:24,880
main, mainly because we only

1911
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,115
run the plant for about three

1912
01:06:26,115 --> 01:06:27,850
hours being the booster

1913
01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:29,084
station. So, it only runs for

1914
01:06:29,084 --> 01:06:31,420
about three hours a day and we

1915
01:06:31,420 --> 01:06:34,222
need the pipe for blending and

1916
01:06:34,222 --> 01:06:37,026
chlorine residuals. So, right

1917
01:06:37,026 --> 01:06:40,429
now, we basically have some

1918
01:06:40,429 --> 01:06:42,231
chlorine degradation as it's

1919
01:06:42,231 --> 01:06:43,566
coming into the booster and

1920
01:06:43,566 --> 01:06:45,167
then we boost it higher than

1921
01:06:45,167 --> 01:06:45,935
allowable in order to ensure

1922
01:06:45,935 --> 01:06:48,037
that we proper chlorine

1923
01:06:48,037 --> 01:06:49,805
residuals up into Maxville to

1924
01:06:49,805 --> 01:06:55,711
be able to distribute.

1925
01:06:55,711 --> 01:06:57,046
There's no real process

1926
01:06:57,046 --> 01:07:00,983
failures. and then chlorine

1927
01:07:00,983 --> 01:07:02,451
monitoring residuals. The

1928
01:07:02,451 --> 01:07:04,086
charts so the second and third

1929
01:07:04,086 --> 01:07:05,520
chart on the right hand side

1930
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,289
are are residuals at the water

1931
01:07:07,289 --> 01:07:09,892
tower. So you can see that for

1932
01:07:09,892 --> 01:07:12,261
the most part they were well

1933
01:07:12,261 --> 01:07:14,062
above one which is where we

1934
01:07:14,062 --> 01:07:16,098
would hope they would be. Um

1935
01:07:16,098 --> 01:07:17,733
there's a few points where they

1936
01:07:17,733 --> 01:07:19,034
may have come a little bit

1937
01:07:19,034 --> 01:07:19,835
lower than desired but they

1938
01:07:19,835 --> 01:07:21,003
were still all over our

1939
01:07:21,003 --> 01:07:21,670
compliant. Like they were

1940
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:22,604
higher than our compliance

1941
01:07:22,604 --> 01:07:23,973
levels. So there's no issues

1942
01:07:23,973 --> 01:07:30,379
that way.

1943
01:07:30,379 --> 01:07:31,747
Next slide. This is just a

1944
01:07:31,747 --> 01:07:33,848
basic summary of our sampling

1945
01:07:33,848 --> 01:07:35,484
results just to show you the

1946
01:07:35,484 --> 01:07:40,156
amount of sampling that we do annually. Um there was no

1947
01:07:40,156 --> 01:07:42,391
adverses apart from the sodium

1948
01:07:42,391 --> 01:07:45,160
which occurred in I believe the

1949
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,629
first sample was in no late no

1950
01:07:46,629 --> 01:07:48,230
mid November and the second

1951
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:50,533
sample was mid December. That

1952
01:07:50,533 --> 01:07:52,067
has been since corrected as of

1953
01:07:52,067 --> 01:07:53,536
January. Our sodium results

1954
01:07:53,536 --> 01:07:55,437
were back to normal. Uh we're

1955
01:07:55,437 --> 01:07:57,273
still not 100% sure what caused

1956
01:07:57,273 --> 01:07:58,473
the increase in sodium. Right

1957
01:07:58,473 --> 01:08:01,143
now it appears to the raw water

1958
01:08:01,143 --> 01:08:02,011
source but we can't

1959
01:08:02,011 --> 01:08:03,679
conclusively say this is what

1960
01:08:03,679 --> 01:08:06,448
caused it. Um there was nothing

1961
01:08:06,448 --> 01:08:08,217
that changed in the system

1962
01:08:08,217 --> 01:08:10,018
process which is why we're

1963
01:08:10,018 --> 01:08:12,054
looking more. The raw water.

1964
01:08:12,054 --> 01:08:14,023
It's hard to go back and prove

1965
01:08:14,023 --> 01:08:14,657
that it's raw water. It's

1966
01:08:14,657 --> 01:08:15,557
something that happened two

1967
01:08:15,557 --> 01:08:21,063
months ago.

1968
01:08:21,063 --> 01:08:22,765
auditing an inspection. Um so

1969
01:08:22,765 --> 01:08:28,503
we are part of a DWQMS system

1970
01:08:28,503 --> 01:08:29,838
So the system maintenance is

1971
01:08:29,838 --> 01:08:31,440
currently ongoing. Uh we are a

1972
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:32,741
little lax on some of our

1973
01:08:32,741 --> 01:08:34,076
requirements that we are trying

1974
01:08:34,076 --> 01:08:35,644
to bring up to date. Uh our

1975
01:08:35,644 --> 01:08:37,613
main issues were internal

1976
01:08:37,613 --> 01:08:40,683
auditing and the management

1977
01:08:40,683 --> 01:08:43,152
review. So since this

1978
01:08:43,152 --> 01:08:44,586
PowerPoint was made, our

1979
01:08:44,586 --> 01:08:45,921
management review took place

1980
01:08:45,921 --> 01:08:47,289
yesterday so we are good there

1981
01:08:47,289 --> 01:08:48,757
and I'm in the process of

1982
01:08:48,757 --> 01:08:50,092
preparing the internal audit.

1983
01:08:50,092 --> 01:08:51,126
So we should be back up to

1984
01:08:51,126 --> 01:08:53,829
Snuff. By hopefully the end of

1985
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:55,731
this month. Beginning of March.

1986
01:08:55,731 --> 01:08:57,466
Um for compliance, we had our

1987
01:08:57,466 --> 01:08:58,367
compliance inspection. So this

1988
01:08:58,367 --> 01:08:59,634
is our ministry inspection. It

1989
01:08:59,634 --> 01:09:03,973
was in November sixth. Oh,

1990
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:06,742
sorry, November 16th, 2021. We

1991
01:09:06,742 --> 01:09:08,611
had a 92% risk rating which is

1992
01:09:08,611 --> 01:09:10,646
down from previous years. Most

1993
01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:12,982
of our compliance issues were

1994
01:09:12,982 --> 01:09:14,883
either from missed sampling

1995
01:09:14,883 --> 01:09:16,919
which were taken after the

1996
01:09:16,919 --> 01:09:18,887
prescribed date or it was an

1997
01:09:18,887 --> 01:09:20,990
issue with trending in

1998
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:23,759
calibration. There was no

1999
01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:25,427
orders imposed and there's a

2000
01:09:25,427 --> 01:09:26,895
few best management practices

2001
01:09:26,895 --> 01:09:31,967
that were given.

2002
01:09:31,967 --> 01:09:33,702
So going forward our impacting

2003
01:09:33,702 --> 01:09:37,439
changes. Um so, we did have new

2004
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,141
permits that were issued to us

2005
01:09:39,141 --> 01:09:41,644
in 2021 in March. So, all

2006
01:09:41,644 --> 01:09:43,012
components have been rolled out

2007
01:09:43,012 --> 01:09:44,346
into the processes and any

2008
01:09:44,346 --> 01:09:45,514
change in the licensing

2009
01:09:45,514 --> 01:09:46,882
requirements have been rolled

2010
01:09:46,882 --> 01:09:50,619
out. There is a few new

2011
01:09:50,619 --> 01:09:52,120
legislative acts coming in. So,

2012
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,422
there's the emergency

2013
01:09:53,422 --> 01:09:54,890
management and civil protection

2014
01:09:54,890 --> 01:09:56,224
act and this is more in regards

2015
01:09:56,224 --> 01:09:58,761
to allowing and giving water

2016
01:09:58,761 --> 01:10:01,463
works the force get people

2017
01:10:01,463 --> 01:10:04,666
boots on the ground in order

2018
01:10:04,666 --> 01:10:07,303
like in the event of long term

2019
01:10:07,303 --> 01:10:11,106
outages. Um from COVID. There

2020
01:10:11,106 --> 01:10:12,274
was the virtual training which

2021
01:10:12,274 --> 01:10:18,547
is now in place for operators.

2022
01:10:18,547 --> 01:10:20,015
There were some minor changes

2023
01:10:20,015 --> 01:10:21,417
to the skater reporting and

2024
01:10:21,417 --> 01:10:22,551
then director notification.

2025
01:10:22,551 --> 01:10:23,719
That's to the ministry in

2026
01:10:23,719 --> 01:10:25,187
regards to our licensing.

2027
01:10:25,187 --> 01:10:26,689
There's a new water main

2028
01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:27,756
disinfection which we're we're

2029
01:10:27,756 --> 01:10:29,458
in the process of implementing

2030
01:10:29,458 --> 01:10:31,760
all the new changes. They are

2031
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,495
looking at producing a new code

2032
01:10:33,495 --> 01:10:34,596
of ethics for drinking water

2033
01:10:34,596 --> 01:10:38,400
operators. PTTW which is what

2034
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:39,835
allows us to pull water from

2035
01:10:39,835 --> 01:10:41,337
the mill ponds. That will be

2036
01:10:41,337 --> 01:10:42,737
renewed in 2022. We're

2037
01:10:42,737 --> 01:10:44,206
currently in the process of

2038
01:10:44,206 --> 01:10:48,043
doing that application. And we

2039
01:10:48,043 --> 01:10:49,345
obviously have an increase in

2040
01:10:49,345 --> 01:10:52,214
costs and lag time for supplies

2041
01:10:52,214 --> 01:10:54,283
due to COVID and manufacturing

2042
01:10:54,283 --> 01:10:56,285
delays. And we luckily have a

2043
01:10:56,285 --> 01:10:58,020
municipal election in October.

2044
01:10:58,020 --> 01:11:00,055
Which could impact obviously.

2045
01:11:00,055 --> 01:11:02,124
Our direction as a township of

2046
01:11:02,124 --> 01:11:05,627
a whole. That's Alexandria.

2047
01:11:05,627 --> 01:11:09,598
Questions, comments. Any

2048
01:11:09,598 --> 01:11:13,769
questions? Go ahead, Councillor

2049
01:11:13,769 --> 01:11:15,971
Mayor. Thank you, Angela. Uh

2050
01:11:15,971 --> 01:11:17,973
just to go back to the sodium

2051
01:11:17,973 --> 01:11:21,043
incident, is there anything

2052
01:11:21,043 --> 01:11:23,712
that we can do to backtrack

2053
01:11:23,712 --> 01:11:26,114
this? To figure out what went

2054
01:11:26,114 --> 01:11:28,350
on. I've got a couple ideas we

2055
01:11:28,350 --> 01:11:29,284
can talk about later but I'm

2056
01:11:29,284 --> 01:11:31,887
just curious if there's

2057
01:11:31,887 --> 01:11:33,088
anything that you guys have

2058
01:11:33,088 --> 01:11:34,490
thought of that we can actually

2059
01:11:34,490 --> 01:11:35,490
do to figure out and make sure

2060
01:11:35,490 --> 01:11:38,126
it doesn't happen again. So

2061
01:11:38,126 --> 01:11:43,098
right now I would say that it

2062
01:11:43,098 --> 01:11:44,500
would be hard to go back and

2063
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:46,368
prove. Because we don't have

2064
01:11:46,368 --> 01:11:47,836
the sampling data to kind of

2065
01:11:47,836 --> 01:11:50,139
back it up. Historically we're

2066
01:11:50,139 --> 01:11:51,740
around like 10 to 15 milligrams

2067
01:11:51,740 --> 01:11:53,409
per liter. Yeah. Um there's

2068
01:11:53,409 --> 01:11:55,444
only been one other spike which

2069
01:11:55,444 --> 01:11:58,213
was in two thousand fifteen. So

2070
01:11:58,213 --> 01:11:59,415
I'm not really sure what's

2071
01:11:59,415 --> 01:12:03,285
causing the spikes. it wasn't

2072
01:12:03,285 --> 01:12:05,687
the same time of year. It was I

2073
01:12:05,687 --> 01:12:08,624
want to say June. But I could

2074
01:12:08,624 --> 01:12:14,530
be wrong.

2075
01:12:14,530 --> 01:12:15,797
Okay, thank you for that

2076
01:12:15,797 --> 01:12:17,399
report. We'll we'll vote on

2077
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:18,901
that on the motion that was

2078
01:12:18,901 --> 01:12:21,603
read earlier for the Alexandria

2079
01:12:21,603 --> 01:12:23,005
Water Drinking System all in

2080
01:12:23,005 --> 01:12:25,607
favor of the motion. Carried.

2081
01:12:25,607 --> 01:12:29,144
Thank you. So, Councilor Noble,

2082
01:12:29,144 --> 01:12:31,480
if you can put the next motion

2083
01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:34,750
on the table, please. by

2084
01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:36,084
myself, seconded by Councilor

2085
01:12:36,084 --> 01:12:37,553
Massey, that the Committee of

2086
01:12:37,553 --> 01:12:38,687
the Whole received staff

2087
01:12:38,687 --> 01:12:41,690
report. Number PW 20 22 dash

2088
01:12:41,690 --> 01:12:43,792
zero nine, annual wastewater

2089
01:12:43,792 --> 01:12:44,960
reports for Alexandria and

2090
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:45,527
Maxville for information

2091
01:12:45,527 --> 01:12:47,696
purposes. Oh, okay. We're not

2092
01:12:47,696 --> 01:12:49,231
there yet. Yeah, sure. Sorry,

2093
01:12:49,231 --> 01:12:50,599
I'm sorry. Sorry. I thought

2094
01:12:50,599 --> 01:12:53,702
we're Sorry, yeah, there was a type 2 in a minute.

2095
01:12:53,702 --> 01:12:54,736
Okay. It shouldn't just be

2096
01:12:54,736 --> 01:12:56,038
Alexandria. It should actually

2097
01:12:56,038 --> 01:12:57,139
be the drinking water system

2098
01:12:57,139 --> 01:12:58,540
and that might have been my

2099
01:12:58,540 --> 01:12:59,907
problem, my fault. No, no, no,

2100
01:12:59,907 --> 01:13:01,176
that's fine. That's just fine.

2101
01:13:01,176 --> 01:13:06,615
Carry on and. so Glenn

2102
01:13:06,615 --> 01:13:08,083
Robertson. So basically, this

2103
01:13:08,083 --> 01:13:09,751
is going to be kind of the same

2104
01:13:09,751 --> 01:13:11,286
format. Being kind of fast

2105
01:13:11,286 --> 01:13:12,321
tracked through some of the

2106
01:13:12,321 --> 01:13:14,155
items that would be the same as

2107
01:13:14,155 --> 01:13:19,127
Alexandria. So, Glenn Robertson

2108
01:13:19,127 --> 01:13:21,830
Once again. Sorry, Brenda. The

2109
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:22,631
same format where we've got the

2110
01:13:22,631 --> 01:13:23,832
system description. We'll go

2111
01:13:23,832 --> 01:13:24,766
over the operational

2112
01:13:24,766 --> 01:13:28,504
performance, critical critical

2113
01:13:28,504 --> 01:13:30,372
control points, regulatory,

2114
01:13:30,372 --> 01:13:32,875
non-conformance. Um an adverse

2115
01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:34,209
testing, the auditing and

2116
01:13:34,209 --> 01:13:36,211
impacting changes are the same

2117
01:13:36,211 --> 01:13:39,715
as Alexandria. So, Glenn

2118
01:13:39,715 --> 01:13:41,850
Robertson is a small municipal

2119
01:13:41,850 --> 01:13:42,751
residential assistant with a

2120
01:13:42,751 --> 01:13:44,620
class1 distribution and supply

2121
01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:46,755
designation. We use groundwater

2122
01:13:46,755 --> 01:13:49,157
source water and we have the

2123
01:13:49,157 --> 01:13:51,727
ability to to take 224 cubic

2124
01:13:51,727 --> 01:13:54,630
meters per day. This system is

2125
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:56,498
designated as goody which means

2126
01:13:56,498 --> 01:13:57,232
groundwater under the direct

2127
01:13:57,232 --> 01:13:59,467
influence of surface water. The

2128
01:13:59,467 --> 01:14:01,336
system is made up of the Glenn

2129
01:14:01,336 --> 01:14:02,704
Robertson pumphouse treatment

2130
01:14:02,704 --> 01:14:05,173
facility. Um there's no

2131
01:14:05,173 --> 01:14:08,677
distribution storage. And

2132
01:14:08,677 --> 01:14:09,945
there's one standby generator

2133
01:14:09,945 --> 01:14:12,514
at the pumphouse. We do have

2134
01:14:12,514 --> 01:14:13,148
monitoring about at the

2135
01:14:13,148 --> 01:14:16,618
midpoint at the church. So the

2136
01:14:16,618 --> 01:14:18,554
distribution is composed of. 8

2137
01:14:18,554 --> 01:14:19,721
kilometres of water pipes

2138
01:14:19,721 --> 01:14:21,290
bearing sizes, isolation

2139
01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:23,725
valves, pressure nope, not

2140
01:14:23,725 --> 01:14:26,028
press reducing valves. And

2141
01:14:26,028 --> 01:14:27,629
there's I do apologize. There's

2142
01:14:27,629 --> 01:14:29,631
typos in here. There's no fire

2143
01:14:29,631 --> 01:14:32,201
hydrants. and then the chart

2144
01:14:32,201 --> 01:14:36,738
below summarizes it. So we do

2145
01:14:36,738 --> 01:14:38,072
have three flushing ports,

2146
01:14:38,072 --> 01:14:39,241
three isolation valves, and

2147
01:14:39,241 --> 01:14:40,442
only about 50 service

2148
01:14:40,442 --> 01:14:44,746
connections. So the operational

2149
01:14:44,746 --> 01:14:47,716
performance So, for the treated

2150
01:14:47,716 --> 01:14:49,317
water, we're only at at about

2151
01:14:49,317 --> 01:14:51,019
11% of the raw intake capacity.

2152
01:14:51,019 --> 01:14:52,988
We have an average flow of 24.

2153
01:14:52,988 --> 01:14:55,791
9 cubic meters per day. We have

2154
01:14:55,791 --> 01:14:58,093
some minor sedimentation issues

2155
01:14:58,093 --> 01:15:00,762
which is more seasonal. Uh we

2156
01:15:00,762 --> 01:15:02,497
have one major incidents where

2157
01:15:02,497 --> 01:15:04,700
we had the well pump

2158
01:15:04,700 --> 01:15:06,034
malfunction. It was actually

2159
01:15:06,034 --> 01:15:07,502
parts in the well pump panel.

2160
01:15:07,502 --> 01:15:09,538
It was replaced. There was a

2161
01:15:09,538 --> 01:15:11,907
boil water issued. Um and then

2162
01:15:11,907 --> 01:15:14,042
resolved I believe within two

2163
01:15:14,042 --> 01:15:17,079
days of the initial response.

2164
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:18,614
Although the well pump is up,

2165
01:15:18,614 --> 01:15:19,881
the boil water took about two

2166
01:15:19,881 --> 01:15:22,217
days to resolve once we got our

2167
01:15:22,217 --> 01:15:23,552
sampling results and everything

2168
01:15:23,552 --> 01:15:26,488
back. We had minor incidences

2169
01:15:26,488 --> 01:15:27,489
of equipment failure and part

2170
01:15:27,489 --> 01:15:29,992
replacements. Um most issues

2171
01:15:29,992 --> 01:15:31,693
were resolved with backup

2172
01:15:31,693 --> 01:15:34,663
equipment until the parts could

2173
01:15:34,663 --> 01:15:37,966
be either obtained or replaced.

2174
01:15:37,966 --> 01:15:39,301
There's no major quality

2175
01:15:39,301 --> 01:15:44,539
issues. In Glenn Robertson

2176
01:15:44,539 --> 01:15:47,142
in the distribution. So, this

2177
01:15:47,142 --> 01:15:50,012
year, 2021, rather, we've

2178
01:15:50,012 --> 01:15:51,412
metred about six thousand eight

2179
01:15:51,412 --> 01:15:54,216
hundred and seventy-three cubic

2180
01:15:54,216 --> 01:15:56,885
metres. We only had one service

2181
01:15:56,885 --> 01:15:58,152
repair and once again, all work

2182
01:15:58,152 --> 01:16:01,523
was subcontracted out. Our

2183
01:16:01,523 --> 01:16:02,123
residual monitoring and

2184
01:16:02,123 --> 01:16:03,792
flushing, we used about 21. 6

2185
01:16:03,792 --> 01:16:06,361
cubic meters which was mostly

2186
01:16:06,361 --> 01:16:08,629
due to low residual alarms and

2187
01:16:08,629 --> 01:16:10,065
preventative flushing at the

2188
01:16:10,065 --> 01:16:11,667
actual pump house itself. So,

2189
01:16:11,667 --> 01:16:14,603
our critical control points.

2190
01:16:14,603 --> 01:16:17,139
Someone Robertson Oops, let me

2191
01:16:17,139 --> 01:16:20,742
skip. So that once again is

2192
01:16:20,742 --> 01:16:23,278
that summary the critical

2193
01:16:23,278 --> 01:16:25,480
control points are are

2194
01:16:25,480 --> 01:16:26,114
disinfection which is UV

2195
01:16:26,114 --> 01:16:28,617
treatment and sodium

2196
01:16:28,617 --> 01:16:30,218
hypochlorite dosing. We didn't

2197
01:16:30,218 --> 01:16:32,620
have any operational issues. We

2198
01:16:32,620 --> 01:16:34,222
had one instance of delayed

2199
01:16:34,222 --> 01:16:36,358
startup but the unit was in

2200
01:16:36,358 --> 01:16:37,626
standby until it was ready to

2201
01:16:37,626 --> 01:16:41,763
be put in service. Sodium hypo.

2202
01:16:41,763 --> 01:16:43,298
Once again, the dosing is based

2203
01:16:43,298 --> 01:16:46,234
on observed process and we do

2204
01:16:46,234 --> 01:16:48,637
have some minor issues with

2205
01:16:48,637 --> 01:16:50,472
equipment failure and pump

2206
01:16:50,472 --> 01:16:52,207
failure which we are working

2207
01:16:52,207 --> 01:16:53,542
with the manufacturer to try

2208
01:16:53,542 --> 01:16:56,611
and resolve. We do have backup

2209
01:16:56,611 --> 01:16:59,080
so there is no issue of if the

2210
01:16:59,080 --> 01:16:59,881
pump fails, what happens then,

2211
01:16:59,881 --> 01:17:01,283
we always have a backup system

2212
01:17:01,283 --> 01:17:02,617
to ensure that we don't lose

2213
01:17:02,617 --> 01:17:05,753
our treatment possibility. In

2214
01:17:05,753 --> 01:17:09,057
the distribution, we do have

2215
01:17:09,057 --> 01:17:10,625
monitoring at the midpoint.

2216
01:17:10,625 --> 01:17:14,062
There's no issues noted or no

2217
01:17:14,062 --> 01:17:15,097
degradation noted in the

2218
01:17:15,097 --> 01:17:17,732
distribution. Once again, this

2219
01:17:17,732 --> 01:17:20,168
is the sampling results. So,

2220
01:17:20,168 --> 01:17:22,070
similar to Alexandria, we do

2221
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:23,972
have a fair amount of testing

2222
01:17:23,972 --> 01:17:25,072
like it's done annually. Um

2223
01:17:25,072 --> 01:17:28,210
there were no adverse tests

2224
01:17:28,210 --> 01:17:30,078
Even after the well pump

2225
01:17:30,078 --> 01:17:31,012
failure and our sampling,

2226
01:17:31,012 --> 01:17:35,450
everything came back good.

2227
01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:38,887
So this is the summary for

2228
01:17:38,887 --> 01:17:41,423
audit. So, the QMS is basically

2229
01:17:41,423 --> 01:17:42,691
in the same shape because

2230
01:17:42,691 --> 01:17:44,526
Alexandria and Glen Robertson

2231
01:17:44,526 --> 01:17:46,695
share the same QMS. Although,

2232
01:17:46,695 --> 01:17:48,563
the MACP compliance inspection

2233
01:17:48,563 --> 01:17:50,365
is slightly different. So, we

2234
01:17:50,365 --> 01:17:51,533
had our last inspection,

2235
01:17:51,533 --> 01:17:54,336
September 28th. We had a 96%

2236
01:17:54,336 --> 01:17:56,505
risk rating. Um once again,

2237
01:17:56,505 --> 01:17:59,508
most of the issues were in

2238
01:17:59,508 --> 01:18:02,344
regards to some minor issues.

2239
01:18:02,344 --> 01:18:04,746
Um one is the UV monitoring.

2240
01:18:04,746 --> 01:18:06,114
So, we don't have that trended

2241
01:18:06,114 --> 01:18:07,616
on an ongoing basis as

2242
01:18:07,616 --> 01:18:10,452
prescribed. We were to bring

2243
01:18:10,452 --> 01:18:11,686
Skada in which would have

2244
01:18:11,686 --> 01:18:13,088
resolved this. This is still an

2245
01:18:13,088 --> 01:18:13,855
ongoing matter. It's just been

2246
01:18:13,855 --> 01:18:15,957
delayed due to COVID. Um

2247
01:18:15,957 --> 01:18:18,560
director notification is just a

2248
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,429
minor clerical issue that has

2249
01:18:21,429 --> 01:18:23,598
been resolved since. And then

2250
01:18:23,598 --> 01:18:25,433
we have monitoring laws on the

2251
01:18:25,433 --> 01:18:26,100
site where we had to replace

2252
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:28,103
the covers to prevent

2253
01:18:28,103 --> 01:18:29,538
infiltration or other issues

2254
01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:31,473
that could enter into the well.

2255
01:18:31,473 --> 01:18:33,408
We had no orders and the best

2256
01:18:33,408 --> 01:18:35,710
management practices that were

2257
01:18:35,710 --> 01:18:37,679
issued was system pressure

2258
01:18:37,679 --> 01:18:39,681
monitoring and treatment bypass

2259
01:18:39,681 --> 01:18:42,984
measures.

2260
01:18:42,984 --> 01:18:45,687
impacting changes is the same

2261
01:18:45,687 --> 01:18:48,856
and that is it for the water

2262
01:18:48,856 --> 01:18:54,029
summaries. So that's Um Madam

2263
01:18:54,029 --> 01:18:59,568
Clerk, do we have to adjust the motion? Cuz it didn't it

2264
01:18:59,568 --> 01:19:00,769
didn't include Glenn Robertson

2265
01:19:00,769 --> 01:19:04,472
or is it fine as is? Uh through

2266
01:19:04,472 --> 01:19:05,940
mister deputy mayor. Yes, you

2267
01:19:05,940 --> 01:19:07,375
should change the motion,

2268
01:19:07,375 --> 01:19:13,014
please. Okay. Okay. So,

2269
01:19:13,014 --> 01:19:16,985
Councillor I think it was you,

2270
01:19:16,985 --> 01:19:18,953
Joanne that if you could please

2271
01:19:18,953 --> 01:19:22,123
add to your motion, Glenn

2272
01:19:22,123 --> 01:19:26,628
Robertson.

2273
01:19:26,628 --> 01:19:28,530
Reread it please. And we'll

2274
01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:33,101
vote on it.

2275
01:19:33,101 --> 01:19:34,636
Move by myself, seconded by

2276
01:19:34,636 --> 01:19:35,569
Councilor Noble, that the

2277
01:19:35,569 --> 01:19:37,338
committee, the whole, receives

2278
01:19:37,338 --> 01:19:39,541
staff report, number PW 2022

2279
01:19:39,541 --> 01:19:41,276
dash zero eight, the two

2280
01:19:41,276 --> 01:19:43,945
thousand 21 Alexandria and

2281
01:19:43,945 --> 01:19:45,413
Glenn Robertson drinking water

2282
01:19:45,413 --> 01:19:47,482
system, annual and summary

2283
01:19:47,482 --> 01:19:48,950
reports for information

2284
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:52,354
purposes. Okay, thank you. Uh

2285
01:19:52,354 --> 01:19:54,923
all in favor of the motion?

2286
01:19:54,923 --> 01:19:58,126
Carried.

2287
01:19:58,126 --> 01:20:00,562
So please go ehm we've already

2288
01:20:00,562 --> 01:20:01,997
had the so the annual

2289
01:20:01,997 --> 01:20:03,632
wastewater report for

2290
01:20:03,632 --> 01:20:05,133
Alexandria Maxwell as fine as

2291
01:20:05,133 --> 01:20:07,168
it is then. It's already been

2292
01:20:07,168 --> 01:20:08,636
read. So go ahead with your

2293
01:20:08,636 --> 01:20:09,971
report. We'll vote on it

2294
01:20:09,971 --> 01:20:11,573
afterwards. So there is no

2295
01:20:11,573 --> 01:20:12,740
presentation for this one. It's

2296
01:20:12,740 --> 01:20:15,844
just we we're just providing

2297
01:20:15,844 --> 01:20:17,279
you with the annual reports

2298
01:20:17,279 --> 01:20:18,145
which you should have received

2299
01:20:18,145 --> 01:20:19,881
a copy for both Alexandria and

2300
01:20:19,881 --> 01:20:23,752
Maxwell. Okay. And it's just as

2301
01:20:23,752 --> 01:20:27,689
proof of delivery. Rookie. Okay

2302
01:20:27,689 --> 01:20:31,092
So do do counselors have any

2303
01:20:31,092 --> 01:20:35,530
questions for Angela? the

2304
01:20:35,530 --> 01:20:38,366
report. Go ahead Councilman. I

2305
01:20:38,366 --> 01:20:39,701
thought we were going to have

2306
01:20:39,701 --> 01:20:43,471
the old presentation presented.

2307
01:20:43,471 --> 01:20:45,674
But that's okay I can read it

2308
01:20:45,674 --> 01:20:48,009
tonight. But I thought you

2309
01:20:48,009 --> 01:20:52,614
already read it. I said reread

2310
01:20:52,614 --> 01:20:55,116
it. Reread it. I have one

2311
01:20:55,116 --> 01:21:00,555
question. Uh the capacity

2312
01:21:00,555 --> 01:21:03,425
at at the lagoons What numbers

2313
01:21:03,425 --> 01:21:05,327
are we at for Alexandria

2314
01:21:05,327 --> 01:21:07,562
Maxwell, please? Off the top of

2315
01:21:07,562 --> 01:21:08,897
my head, I can't remember. I

2316
01:21:08,897 --> 01:21:11,733
believe it's around 79%. It's

2317
01:21:11,733 --> 01:21:14,736
in the report. It's actually,

2318
01:21:14,736 --> 01:21:16,604
well, it's further down but

2319
01:21:16,604 --> 01:21:19,975
it's also further up. Uh up. I

2320
01:21:19,975 --> 01:21:22,010
believe, no, up. Sorry, the

2321
01:21:22,010 --> 01:21:27,482
other way. Should be.

2322
01:21:27,482 --> 01:21:33,154
Seventy-six.

2323
01:21:33,154 --> 01:21:34,889
Yep, no, seventy-six is

2324
01:21:34,889 --> 01:21:50,038
ordinances.

2325
01:21:50,038 --> 01:21:52,607
Yep, no, you, it was the 76

2326
01:21:52,607 --> 01:21:53,942
that you, that you showed

2327
01:21:53,942 --> 01:21:56,210
earlier. Uh, yeah, so Maxwell

2328
01:21:56,210 --> 01:21:59,146
would be in the Maxwell one. So

2329
01:21:59,146 --> 01:22:02,050
seventy-six for Alexandria?

2330
01:22:02,050 --> 01:22:03,418
and

2331
01:22:03,418 --> 01:22:06,488
then you're 72 for Maxwell.

2332
01:22:06,488 --> 01:22:07,689
Okay, very good. That's

2333
01:22:07,689 --> 01:22:09,491
helpful. Thank you. Okay,

2334
01:22:09,491 --> 01:22:10,992
other, yes, go ahead,

2335
01:22:10,992 --> 01:22:13,962
Councilman. Angela, just the

2336
01:22:13,962 --> 01:22:15,296
quick question about the sledge

2337
01:22:15,296 --> 01:22:16,664
in the lagoons in Alexandria.

2338
01:22:16,664 --> 01:22:19,434
Mhm. Uh, anything significant

2339
01:22:19,434 --> 01:22:20,634
or special that needs to be

2340
01:22:20,634 --> 01:22:21,836
done there. We're just going to

2341
01:22:21,836 --> 01:22:22,369
keep going with sort of

2342
01:22:22,369 --> 01:22:25,206
geotubes until I believe the

2343
01:22:25,206 --> 01:22:27,575
plan is to continue with the

2344
01:22:27,575 --> 01:22:28,275
geotebeams to try to get the

2345
01:22:28,275 --> 01:22:31,746
sludge and Selby down Um and

2346
01:22:31,746 --> 01:22:34,148
then once we get obviously the

2347
01:22:34,148 --> 01:22:35,683
capital works going, we'll have

2348
01:22:35,683 --> 01:22:37,252
to kind of reevaluate when we

2349
01:22:37,252 --> 01:22:38,486
get there at that point because

2350
01:22:38,486 --> 01:22:39,587
it's part of the pro like part

2351
01:22:39,587 --> 01:22:41,089
of the issues that has to be

2352
01:22:41,089 --> 01:22:45,492
resolved prior to construction.

2353
01:22:45,492 --> 01:22:50,098
Any other questions?

2354
01:22:50,098 --> 01:22:51,366
We've already voted on the

2355
01:22:51,366 --> 01:22:52,133
motion. Thank you, Angela for

2356
01:22:52,133 --> 01:22:57,872
your report.

2357
01:22:57,872 --> 01:22:59,874
Sorry. I was thinking of the

2358
01:22:59,874 --> 01:23:01,176
other one. All in favor of the

2359
01:23:01,176 --> 01:23:06,314
motion. Thank you. Alright. And

2360
01:23:06,314 --> 01:23:07,682
number four engineering

2361
01:23:07,682 --> 01:23:10,218
investigation work plan and low

2362
01:23:10,218 --> 01:23:12,553
cost bitumus roads. Uh

2363
01:23:12,553 --> 01:23:14,121
Councillor Massey please put

2364
01:23:14,121 --> 01:23:17,092
the motion on the table. And

2365
01:23:17,092 --> 01:23:19,461
welcome Tim. Move my myself

2366
01:23:19,461 --> 01:23:21,262
seconded by Councillor Noble

2367
01:23:21,262 --> 01:23:22,130
that the Committee of the Old

2368
01:23:22,130 --> 01:23:24,632
Recommends to Council that the

2369
01:23:24,632 --> 01:23:26,066
2022 road work as presented in

2370
01:23:26,066 --> 01:23:29,604
table A B approved. Thank you.

2371
01:23:29,604 --> 01:23:32,207
Go ahead. Thank you Madam

2372
01:23:32,207 --> 01:23:36,344
Deputy Mayor. Um so this report

2373
01:23:36,344 --> 01:23:38,879
is about modifying our work

2374
01:23:38,879 --> 01:23:40,548
plan from what was outlined in

2375
01:23:40,548 --> 01:23:44,152
the road's needs study. Uh to a

2376
01:23:44,152 --> 01:23:48,456
more a more specific work plan

2377
01:23:48,456 --> 01:23:51,092
especially based on a few

2378
01:23:51,092 --> 01:23:52,861
concerns that I have with the

2379
01:23:52,861 --> 01:23:54,762
performance, the historical

2380
01:23:54,762 --> 01:23:55,897
performance of some of the

2381
01:23:55,897 --> 01:24:00,568
roads. So I When I started

2382
01:24:00,568 --> 01:24:02,070
here, I started interviewing

2383
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:06,374
the workers at the different

2384
01:24:06,374 --> 01:24:08,610
garages and trying to get,

2385
01:24:08,610 --> 01:24:09,177
actually, that was a

2386
01:24:09,177 --> 01:24:10,812
recommendation from the roads

2387
01:24:10,812 --> 01:24:13,214
need study was that we should

2388
01:24:13,214 --> 01:24:14,148
try and interview these guys

2389
01:24:14,148 --> 01:24:15,082
and get a little bit more

2390
01:24:15,082 --> 01:24:17,218
information. So, we did that

2391
01:24:17,218 --> 01:24:19,520
and what became apparent very

2392
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,757
quickly was that a certain type

2393
01:24:22,757 --> 01:24:27,629
of road was not standing up to

2394
01:24:27,629 --> 01:24:29,297
the performance that it should.

2395
01:24:29,297 --> 01:24:30,231
It wasn't living out of life

2396
01:24:30,231 --> 01:24:32,933
cycle. So, if you go through

2397
01:24:32,933 --> 01:24:35,103
the report I outline the

2398
01:24:35,103 --> 01:24:37,972
difference between bitumen and

2399
01:24:37,972 --> 01:24:41,743
asphalt and LCB and HCB roads.

2400
01:24:41,743 --> 01:24:44,512
So LCB stands for low class

2401
01:24:44,512 --> 01:24:47,048
bitumenus and HCB stands for

2402
01:24:47,048 --> 01:24:48,883
high class indigenous. So to

2403
01:24:48,883 --> 01:24:51,619
give a bit of a summary bitumen

2404
01:24:51,619 --> 01:24:56,457
is the material which binds

2405
01:24:56,457 --> 01:24:58,359
asphalt together. Um so if you

2406
01:24:58,359 --> 01:25:00,461
think of concrete the

2407
01:25:00,461 --> 01:25:02,030
difference between cement and

2408
01:25:02,030 --> 01:25:06,067
concrete is cement is like a a

2409
01:25:06,067 --> 01:25:08,102
it's almost like grouted what

2410
01:25:08,102 --> 01:25:09,938
binds that the concrete

2411
01:25:09,938 --> 01:25:11,439
together and when you combine

2412
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,141
the cement with the aggregate

2413
01:25:14,141 --> 01:25:15,410
and when you combine the

2414
01:25:15,410 --> 01:25:16,343
bitumen with the aggregate that

2415
01:25:16,343 --> 01:25:19,514
actually becomes ah asphalt

2416
01:25:19,514 --> 01:25:21,549
concrete or concrete in the

2417
01:25:21,549 --> 01:25:26,621
case of concrete. Um so a I

2418
01:25:26,621 --> 01:25:27,822
thought it was really important

2419
01:25:27,822 --> 01:25:29,490
to point that out. Just because

2420
01:25:29,490 --> 01:25:33,561
there is so much confusion with

2421
01:25:33,561 --> 01:25:36,931
the naming conventions across

2422
01:25:36,931 --> 01:25:39,500
the world and across Canada and

2423
01:25:39,500 --> 01:25:41,135
within municipalities and

2424
01:25:41,135 --> 01:25:43,004
within engineering departments.

2425
01:25:43,004 --> 01:25:43,971
People can refer to it as

2426
01:25:43,971 --> 01:25:47,375
different things. Um one term

2427
01:25:47,375 --> 01:25:49,143
that everybody uses and if

2428
01:25:49,143 --> 01:25:51,479
you're talking to people in the

2429
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,081
asphalt industry they recommend

2430
01:25:53,081 --> 01:25:55,049
that you use is asphalt

2431
01:25:55,049 --> 01:25:58,252
concrete. Um that engineering

2432
01:25:58,252 --> 01:26:00,521
term and everybody uses that

2433
01:26:00,521 --> 01:26:04,392
the same And if could scroll

2434
01:26:04,392 --> 01:26:05,359
down a little bit on that

2435
01:26:05,359 --> 01:26:08,162
report Pauline. Thank you sir.

2436
01:26:08,162 --> 01:26:10,531
That there is asphalt concrete.

2437
01:26:10,531 --> 01:26:14,636
So it's it's prepared in a

2438
01:26:14,636 --> 01:26:15,670
bitumen plant or an asphalt

2439
01:26:15,670 --> 01:26:18,539
plant and shipped to site. Uh

2440
01:26:18,539 --> 01:26:20,008
that that truck up the front is

2441
01:26:20,008 --> 01:26:22,143
then pouring it into the into

2442
01:26:22,143 --> 01:26:23,411
the paver and then they lay

2443
01:26:23,411 --> 01:26:26,581
that down as a a composite

2444
01:26:26,581 --> 01:26:28,950
material that has a structural

2445
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:31,886
component to it. Uh and that's

2446
01:26:31,886 --> 01:26:32,920
the real really the main

2447
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,355
difference that you're going to

2448
01:26:34,355 --> 01:26:35,423
see between the asphalt

2449
01:26:35,423 --> 01:26:38,626
concrete and low class

2450
01:26:38,626 --> 01:26:41,296
bitumenous roads. Um which a

2451
01:26:41,296 --> 01:26:43,297
variety of names including Chip

2452
01:26:43,297 --> 01:26:44,765
Seal is that those don't have

2453
01:26:44,765 --> 01:26:46,367
any structural integrity to

2454
01:26:46,367 --> 01:26:48,603
them. Everything that they have

2455
01:26:48,603 --> 01:26:49,404
structural about them is

2456
01:26:49,404 --> 01:26:51,506
provided by the base and the

2457
01:26:51,506 --> 01:26:55,576
sub base. Uh so my main

2458
01:26:55,576 --> 01:26:57,010
concerns is that those low

2459
01:26:57,010 --> 01:26:59,747
class vitaminist rogues and

2460
01:26:59,747 --> 01:27:02,050
we've got there's two types.

2461
01:27:02,050 --> 01:27:03,617
Low class bituminous roads and

2462
01:27:03,617 --> 01:27:06,054
high class bituminous roads.

2463
01:27:06,054 --> 01:27:08,890
LCB and HCB. The those are the

2464
01:27:08,890 --> 01:27:13,161
common terms used in the the

2465
01:27:13,161 --> 01:27:16,998
like the ST and G. Um and

2466
01:27:16,998 --> 01:27:19,634
basically a HCB road is built

2467
01:27:19,634 --> 01:27:21,302
with some sort of asphalt

2468
01:27:21,302 --> 01:27:24,038
concrete. Uh so you can have

2469
01:27:24,038 --> 01:27:26,007
different types. You can have

2470
01:27:26,007 --> 01:27:27,575
coal in place. You can have

2471
01:27:27,575 --> 01:27:29,143
different recipes that do

2472
01:27:29,143 --> 01:27:30,745
different things depending on

2473
01:27:30,745 --> 01:27:32,112
your geotechnical conditions.

2474
01:27:32,112 --> 01:27:35,983
Depending on what purpose the

2475
01:27:35,983 --> 01:27:38,619
road serves. Um and I just

2476
01:27:38,619 --> 01:27:40,021
thought it was important to to

2477
01:27:40,021 --> 01:27:41,288
spell those out so that

2478
01:27:41,288 --> 01:27:42,757
everybody understands that I,

2479
01:27:42,757 --> 01:27:46,627
you know, one's using the same

2480
01:27:46,627 --> 01:27:50,498
terminology. Um so the problem

2481
01:27:50,498 --> 01:27:51,966
I've detected is that the

2482
01:27:51,966 --> 01:27:55,503
rogues specifically can you

2483
01:27:55,503 --> 01:27:57,071
concessionate Donnie McCormick,

2484
01:27:57,071 --> 01:28:01,609
Marcou, Kenning Concession One,

2485
01:28:01,609 --> 01:28:03,077
Kenyan Concession fifteen,

2486
01:28:03,077 --> 01:28:04,746
Indian Lambs, and Kenyan

2487
01:28:04,746 --> 01:28:06,914
Concession 16 Indianlands. Uh

2488
01:28:06,914 --> 01:28:10,985
hope we met and I'm sorry if

2489
01:28:10,985 --> 01:28:12,220
I'm mangling any of these

2490
01:28:12,220 --> 01:28:14,588
names. Um I'll get it. I

2491
01:28:14,588 --> 01:28:17,425
promise. But all these roads

2492
01:28:17,425 --> 01:28:19,226
seem to have failed before

2493
01:28:19,226 --> 01:28:21,462
their service life ends. So

2494
01:28:21,462 --> 01:28:24,565
within five years, they have

2495
01:28:24,565 --> 01:28:28,536
fractured, cracked, and failed

2496
01:28:28,536 --> 01:28:36,878
and it's expensive to go and redo these. So, a lot of

2497
01:28:36,878 --> 01:28:39,647
these roads were set I think

2498
01:28:39,647 --> 01:28:42,215
it's down at the sorry, at the

2499
01:28:42,215 --> 01:28:43,117
bottom of that report. I don't

2500
01:28:43,117 --> 01:28:44,752
have it in front of me but in

2501
01:28:44,752 --> 01:28:47,521
the in the roads need study, a

2502
01:28:47,521 --> 01:28:49,690
lot of these roads were set to

2503
01:28:49,690 --> 01:28:52,627
be LCB'd again. So, we were

2504
01:28:52,627 --> 01:28:54,162
going to pulverize and double

2505
01:28:54,162 --> 01:28:55,596
surface treat them, treatment

2506
01:28:55,596 --> 01:28:58,533
them. So, and again,

2507
01:28:58,533 --> 01:29:00,635
terminology, we were basically

2508
01:29:00,635 --> 01:29:04,438
going to take that CB Road and

2509
01:29:04,438 --> 01:29:06,374
turn it again into an LCB road.

2510
01:29:06,374 --> 01:29:10,745
So renew it. Um and pulverise

2511
01:29:10,745 --> 01:29:12,647
and double surface treatment is

2512
01:29:12,647 --> 01:29:15,583
pretty much the the highest

2513
01:29:15,583 --> 01:29:16,851
it's basically redoing the

2514
01:29:16,851 --> 01:29:18,352
entire road. You don't need to

2515
01:29:18,352 --> 01:29:20,555
do a little bit of base. But

2516
01:29:20,555 --> 01:29:22,623
the cost is pretty big compared

2517
01:29:22,623 --> 01:29:25,292
to doing if if you had a green

2518
01:29:25,292 --> 01:29:26,627
road and you were going to

2519
01:29:26,627 --> 01:29:29,296
upgrade it to a an LCB road.

2520
01:29:29,296 --> 01:29:31,032
You go and place the base and

2521
01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:32,366
then you do a double surface

2522
01:29:32,366 --> 01:29:34,068
treatment. And this is pul

2523
01:29:34,068 --> 01:29:36,003
rising the existing double

2524
01:29:36,003 --> 01:29:37,472
surface treatment and putting

2525
01:29:37,472 --> 01:29:39,140
it back down and doing some

2526
01:29:39,140 --> 01:29:40,541
spot treatment for the base

2527
01:29:40,541 --> 01:29:42,844
there as well. So, it's very

2528
01:29:42,844 --> 01:29:45,746
expensive and what I want to

2529
01:29:45,746 --> 01:29:47,281
do, what I think the way

2530
01:29:47,281 --> 01:29:48,816
forward is, is to really go and

2531
01:29:48,816 --> 01:29:49,851
do some geotechnical

2532
01:29:49,851 --> 01:29:52,219
investigation. It's it's too

2533
01:29:52,219 --> 01:29:54,221
early for me to say exactly why

2534
01:29:54,221 --> 01:29:58,092
those roads failed and believe

2535
01:29:58,092 --> 01:30:01,662
me, I have my theories but I

2536
01:30:01,662 --> 01:30:03,030
really think that we need to do

2537
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:05,566
the proper investigations and

2538
01:30:05,566 --> 01:30:08,970
this is also what is ended in

2539
01:30:08,970 --> 01:30:10,605
the in the roads need study as

2540
01:30:10,605 --> 01:30:12,940
well. But the roads need steady

2541
01:30:12,940 --> 01:30:15,610
scope was just to say this is

2542
01:30:15,610 --> 01:30:16,977
what we've got and this is our

2543
01:30:16,977 --> 01:30:18,345
maintenance schedule if we're

2544
01:30:18,345 --> 01:30:19,447
going to maintain what we've

2545
01:30:19,447 --> 01:30:22,116
got. So it was really to to

2546
01:30:22,116 --> 01:30:23,451
sort of head off the question

2547
01:30:23,451 --> 01:30:25,152
of why didn't the roads need

2548
01:30:25,152 --> 01:30:26,754
study? Why is the roads need

2549
01:30:26,754 --> 01:30:28,923
study saying that we should

2550
01:30:28,923 --> 01:30:31,525
redo these roads? Uh when I

2551
01:30:31,525 --> 01:30:32,225
think there should be more

2552
01:30:32,225 --> 01:30:33,427
investigation. It's just

2553
01:30:33,427 --> 01:30:35,162
because it was beyond their

2554
01:30:35,162 --> 01:30:36,764
scope. Um so you can see a a

2555
01:30:36,764 --> 01:30:41,435
photo there of a borehole. Um I

2556
01:30:41,435 --> 01:30:42,470
think that one in particular

2557
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:46,474
was actually from TransCanadian

2558
01:30:46,474 --> 01:30:47,808
Highway. Um when when they were

2559
01:30:47,808 --> 01:30:50,077
having issues with sinkholes

2560
01:30:50,077 --> 01:30:52,446
And basically there are about a

2561
01:30:52,446 --> 01:30:54,348
metre and a half in depth and

2562
01:30:54,348 --> 01:30:55,549
it should give us an idea of

2563
01:30:55,549 --> 01:30:58,052
what the sub base is there. Um

2564
01:30:58,052 --> 01:31:00,955
because if we have if we have a

2565
01:31:00,955 --> 01:31:02,890
bad sub base and it'll also

2566
01:31:02,890 --> 01:31:04,458
give us a consistency of our

2567
01:31:04,458 --> 01:31:07,028
road. Uh then it doesn't really

2568
01:31:07,028 --> 01:31:09,163
matter what we do on top of it.

2569
01:31:09,163 --> 01:31:11,032
We need to we need to perform

2570
01:31:11,032 --> 01:31:13,300
some dig outs and repair that

2571
01:31:13,300 --> 01:31:14,101
sub base before we keep on

2572
01:31:14,101 --> 01:31:17,405
going.

2573
01:31:17,405 --> 01:31:20,074
Yeah, so unfortunately, I don't

2574
01:31:20,074 --> 01:31:21,509
have really any big answers

2575
01:31:21,509 --> 01:31:25,546
here. This is a significant

2576
01:31:25,546 --> 01:31:28,215
problem, that's, that's

2577
01:31:28,215 --> 01:31:29,817
throughout our road network, so

2578
01:31:29,817 --> 01:31:31,419
there is quite a bit of gravity

2579
01:31:31,419 --> 01:31:33,087
to this, but really the way

2580
01:31:33,087 --> 01:31:34,755
forward is to go and

2581
01:31:34,755 --> 01:31:35,422
investigate, see what we're

2582
01:31:35,422 --> 01:31:38,526
really dealing with, and then

2583
01:31:38,526 --> 01:31:40,094
hopefully we can make some good

2584
01:31:40,094 --> 01:31:42,563
decisions on, how to work on

2585
01:31:42,563 --> 01:31:44,065
these roads in the future. What

2586
01:31:44,065 --> 01:31:46,367
you will notice is that, when

2587
01:31:46,367 --> 01:31:49,370
we these roads out of the

2588
01:31:49,370 --> 01:31:52,540
equation to go and do

2589
01:31:52,540 --> 01:31:54,041
engineering instead. How I've

2590
01:31:54,041 --> 01:31:55,676
allocated it is those roads

2591
01:31:55,676 --> 01:31:58,145
that were LCB and were going to

2592
01:31:58,145 --> 01:31:59,613
be done this year. What I'm

2593
01:31:59,613 --> 01:32:01,615
saying is that instead of that

2594
01:32:01,615 --> 01:32:03,451
we'll go and do investigations,

2595
01:32:03,451 --> 01:32:05,152
engineering investigations on

2596
01:32:05,152 --> 01:32:06,921
those roads and the ones that

2597
01:32:06,921 --> 01:32:07,688
were going to be done next

2598
01:32:07,688 --> 01:32:10,091
year. Uh so they're done ahead

2599
01:32:10,091 --> 01:32:12,626
of time. And then with the rest

2600
01:32:12,626 --> 01:32:14,061
of the funds I've just taken

2601
01:32:14,061 --> 01:32:18,131
the next HCB roads on the on

2602
01:32:18,131 --> 01:32:20,067
the roads need study and bump

2603
01:32:20,067 --> 01:32:22,203
them up. So we had those if you

2604
01:32:22,203 --> 01:32:24,071
remember we had the the green

2605
01:32:24,071 --> 01:32:25,005
and the blue sections. The ones

2606
01:32:25,005 --> 01:32:26,340
that were were optional and

2607
01:32:26,340 --> 01:32:28,542
they very very much strongly

2608
01:32:28,542 --> 01:32:29,510
recommended that we did them.

2609
01:32:29,510 --> 01:32:31,412
We just took the next Rogues in

2610
01:32:31,412 --> 01:32:33,513
line as per the study and

2611
01:32:33,513 --> 01:32:35,282
bumped them up there. Uh so

2612
01:32:35,282 --> 01:32:37,685
they are West Boundary Road,

2613
01:32:37,685 --> 01:32:39,987
Bishop Street, Annex Street,

2614
01:32:39,987 --> 01:32:41,322
Nixon Boundary Road, Hugh

2615
01:32:41,322 --> 01:32:44,058
Monroe Street, Kennedy Avenue,

2616
01:32:44,058 --> 01:32:44,892
we did some further

2617
01:32:44,892 --> 01:32:46,994
investigation and found that

2618
01:32:46,994 --> 01:32:48,462
Sandfield Avenue is actually

2619
01:32:48,462 --> 01:32:50,231
okay how it is but does need a

2620
01:32:50,231 --> 01:32:53,534
good crack ceiling. Um they

2621
01:32:53,534 --> 01:32:55,536
recommended a pulverizing pave

2622
01:32:55,536 --> 01:32:57,505
Uh we did another investigation

2623
01:32:57,505 --> 01:32:59,506
with the county's guys and

2624
01:32:59,506 --> 01:33:03,009
talked to the engineer there as

2625
01:33:03,009 --> 01:33:04,979
well. Um we had a a phone call

2626
01:33:04,979 --> 01:33:06,113
with him just to double check

2627
01:33:06,113 --> 01:33:07,949
and he said, yeah, this would

2628
01:33:07,949 --> 01:33:09,283
be fine. You could extend that

2629
01:33:09,283 --> 01:33:11,419
life by cracked ceiling instead

2630
01:33:11,419 --> 01:33:12,887
which gives us some more funds

2631
01:33:12,887 --> 01:33:15,523
to play with. Um and

2632
01:33:15,523 --> 01:33:16,991
unfortunately, Power Dam Road

2633
01:33:16,991 --> 01:33:19,559
as well. Um now, that was a LCB

2634
01:33:19,559 --> 01:33:23,531
road that was upgraded to HCB

2635
01:33:23,531 --> 01:33:24,999
and unfortunately, those

2636
01:33:24,999 --> 01:33:28,536
treatments that were picked

2637
01:33:28,536 --> 01:33:29,804
were not the best for that

2638
01:33:29,804 --> 01:33:32,873
situation in again, it is an

2639
01:33:32,873 --> 01:33:34,942
LCB road and we tried to

2640
01:33:34,942 --> 01:33:37,812
upgrade it to HCV but we didn't

2641
01:33:37,812 --> 01:33:39,547
do geotechnical investigations

2642
01:33:39,547 --> 01:33:43,717
beforehand. So, we should just

2643
01:33:43,717 --> 01:33:45,453
go and crack, seal that road.

2644
01:33:45,453 --> 01:33:47,154
Luckily, that now because we've

2645
01:33:47,154 --> 01:33:49,890
done it, asphalt is the most

2646
01:33:49,890 --> 01:33:51,625
recycled material in the world.

2647
01:33:51,625 --> 01:33:53,527
Uh now that that material is

2648
01:33:53,527 --> 01:33:55,096
down there, it's still an asset

2649
01:33:55,096 --> 01:33:56,763
and we should just crack seal

2650
01:33:56,763 --> 01:33:58,933
it. Unfortunately, it's not the

2651
01:33:58,933 --> 01:33:59,867
prettiest with the crack in it

2652
01:33:59,867 --> 01:34:01,902
but when it comes time to

2653
01:34:01,902 --> 01:34:03,270
pulverize and pave it again,

2654
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:04,004
there's good material there

2655
01:34:04,004 --> 01:34:06,073
now. So, we can we can keep on

2656
01:34:06,073 --> 01:34:09,643
going.

2657
01:34:09,643 --> 01:34:12,980
that is pretty much it. thank

2658
01:34:12,980 --> 01:34:15,615
you. Yeah, go ahead. Just Tim

2659
01:34:15,615 --> 01:34:16,917
on Sandfield Street. Can you

2660
01:34:16,917 --> 01:34:18,052
just make sure I know that

2661
01:34:18,052 --> 01:34:18,886
we're going to do cracked

2662
01:34:18,886 --> 01:34:21,055
ceiling but Yup. As you're, as

2663
01:34:21,055 --> 01:34:23,758
you're coming down from the old

2664
01:34:23,758 --> 01:34:24,291
Alexandria Moulding and

2665
01:34:24,291 --> 01:34:26,660
Severance, there is a dip that

2666
01:34:26,660 --> 01:34:28,095
you've gotten lots of

2667
01:34:28,095 --> 01:34:29,296
complaints about. So, if you

2668
01:34:29,296 --> 01:34:31,031
can check that and just make

2669
01:34:31,031 --> 01:34:35,436
sure it's while we're doing it.

2670
01:34:35,436 --> 01:34:38,472
Councilor Manley? Yeah. Thank

2671
01:34:38,472 --> 01:34:40,975
you Deputy Mayor. Um Tim I

2672
01:34:40,975 --> 01:34:42,476
think I think this this plan

2673
01:34:42,476 --> 01:34:44,378
going forward is is what we

2674
01:34:44,378 --> 01:34:45,546
need to do. I mean this this

2675
01:34:45,546 --> 01:34:46,881
makes sense. I mean we look at

2676
01:34:46,881 --> 01:34:49,049
what we did last year on Power

2677
01:34:49,049 --> 01:34:51,519
Dam Road. And there were huge

2678
01:34:51,519 --> 01:34:53,154
cracks going down that road.

2679
01:34:53,154 --> 01:34:55,456
That's after one year at one.

2680
01:34:55,456 --> 01:34:56,757
Less than a year. Not even a

2681
01:34:56,757 --> 01:34:58,058
year. It was July that we did

2682
01:34:58,058 --> 01:35:00,227
that. So I mean we we've gotta

2683
01:35:00,227 --> 01:35:01,929
know what we're putting you

2684
01:35:01,929 --> 01:35:02,596
know what what's underneath

2685
01:35:02,596 --> 01:35:03,863
there so that we we do this

2686
01:35:03,863 --> 01:35:06,600
right. So congratulations on on

2687
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:07,801
doing that because I think this

2688
01:35:07,801 --> 01:35:09,135
is this is this is the way

2689
01:35:09,135 --> 01:35:09,970
forward for us. Um definitely

2690
01:35:09,970 --> 01:35:13,007
do quick question about Nick,

2691
01:35:13,007 --> 01:35:14,742
is it Nixon? Yeah. It's right

2692
01:35:14,742 --> 01:35:16,209
on our boundary. Is that, is it

2693
01:35:16,209 --> 01:35:19,146
a boundary road or is it I, I

2694
01:35:19,146 --> 01:35:21,415
don't know if it's a boundary

2695
01:35:21,415 --> 01:35:22,983
road or not, but the reason why

2696
01:35:22,983 --> 01:35:24,919
that one's in there, is that

2697
01:35:24,919 --> 01:35:27,154
it's in a, in a place that is

2698
01:35:27,154 --> 01:35:30,925
near the 417, and the drainage

2699
01:35:30,925 --> 01:35:33,560
there will not work unless that

2700
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:34,628
road is in good condition. It's

2701
01:35:34,628 --> 01:35:35,996
a very small section. Yeah. Um.

2702
01:35:35,996 --> 01:35:37,831
But a, does it go into a green

2703
01:35:37,831 --> 01:35:41,168
road? Uh. Change into a gray. I

2704
01:35:41,168 --> 01:35:44,905
was looking at that. Yeah.

2705
01:35:44,905 --> 01:35:46,340
Okay, so we're we're just

2706
01:35:46,340 --> 01:35:47,374
looking at that little section

2707
01:35:47,374 --> 01:35:50,077
and then it's just a small

2708
01:35:50,077 --> 01:35:51,545
section there, if we, we need

2709
01:35:51,545 --> 01:35:54,014
to repair that, because it's,

2710
01:35:54,014 --> 01:35:55,149
and that's why it was picked on

2711
01:35:55,149 --> 01:35:56,050
the roads need study. Yeah. Uh,

2712
01:35:56,050 --> 01:36:00,988
because if we don't, we can't, say return that one to

2713
01:36:00,988 --> 01:36:02,523
gravel, or, or anything like

2714
01:36:02,523 --> 01:36:04,224
that. We need a, if that's not

2715
01:36:04,224 --> 01:36:06,493
a hard surface, it won't work

2716
01:36:06,493 --> 01:36:08,128
very well with our drainage.

2717
01:36:08,128 --> 01:36:09,296
Okay. Yeah, so. Make sense.

2718
01:36:09,296 --> 01:36:11,565
Okay, thank you. Okay, other

2719
01:36:11,565 --> 01:36:14,602
questions. Yes have cancer.

2720
01:36:14,602 --> 01:36:17,004
Just a quick comment. Again,

2721
01:36:17,004 --> 01:36:19,506
with the pictures like Joanne

2722
01:36:19,506 --> 01:36:21,575
said, it just makes sense. So,

2723
01:36:21,575 --> 01:36:23,544
I appreciate breaking it down

2724
01:36:23,544 --> 01:36:24,210
because we're just like, oh

2725
01:36:24,210 --> 01:36:25,746
yeah, we know what surface

2726
01:36:25,746 --> 01:36:27,548
treatment is and we know it all

2727
01:36:27,548 --> 01:36:29,216
does. Yeah, I will but now we

2728
01:36:29,216 --> 01:36:31,418
have an exact like just

2729
01:36:31,418 --> 01:36:33,087
description like and using all

2730
01:36:33,087 --> 01:36:33,654
the different terms because

2731
01:36:33,654 --> 01:36:35,022
yeah, everybody uses something

2732
01:36:35,022 --> 01:36:37,958
different. So, thank you.

2733
01:36:37,958 --> 01:36:40,761
sorry. Go ahead and patriot. Um

2734
01:36:40,761 --> 01:36:44,899
yeah, I, this is, a lot of

2735
01:36:44,899 --> 01:36:45,932
engineers have this problem,

2736
01:36:45,932 --> 01:36:47,167
that they assume a lot of

2737
01:36:47,167 --> 01:36:48,435
people in the room know what

2738
01:36:48,435 --> 01:36:49,602
they're talking about, but

2739
01:36:49,602 --> 01:36:51,438
often other engineers in the

2740
01:36:51,438 --> 01:36:52,439
same room won't know what

2741
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,741
they're talking about, because

2742
01:36:53,741 --> 01:36:54,475
they're using a different set

2743
01:36:54,475 --> 01:36:57,411
of acronyms, so thank you,

2744
01:36:57,411 --> 01:37:00,213
sorry. Okay, anybody with any

2745
01:37:00,213 --> 01:37:04,051
other comments or questions? I, have a, a quick one, just

2746
01:37:04,051 --> 01:37:05,786
with regards to the, some of

2747
01:37:05,786 --> 01:37:07,154
the, like, I could use the

2748
01:37:07,154 --> 01:37:08,221
fourth concession as an

2749
01:37:08,221 --> 01:37:11,124
example. Uh, which has is as

2750
01:37:11,124 --> 01:37:14,061
you pointed out falling apart.

2751
01:37:14,061 --> 01:37:15,229
Previous to that, when it was

2752
01:37:15,229 --> 01:37:17,731
first surface treated, from

2753
01:37:17,731 --> 01:37:19,166
gravel, because this is the

2754
01:37:19,166 --> 01:37:22,102
second time, that road lasted a

2755
01:37:22,102 --> 01:37:25,506
long time. A long, long time.

2756
01:37:25,506 --> 01:37:28,341
And so, so it doesn't make

2757
01:37:28,341 --> 01:37:30,077
sense. Why some of these roads

2758
01:37:30,077 --> 01:37:32,513
that were initially done year,

2759
01:37:32,513 --> 01:37:34,114
like, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking

2760
01:37:34,114 --> 01:37:37,718
like, 15 years ago. Or, or, or

2761
01:37:37,718 --> 01:37:39,019
even longer, because it was,

2762
01:37:39,019 --> 01:37:44,158
yeah, long ago than that. And the road really lasted. And

2763
01:37:44,158 --> 01:37:45,459
it was a double surface

2764
01:37:45,459 --> 01:37:48,094
treatment. So it may not just

2765
01:37:48,094 --> 01:37:50,764
be what's under the ground that

2766
01:37:50,764 --> 01:37:54,634
the problem. You know it could easily be the the

2767
01:37:54,634 --> 01:37:56,870
product. Or or the the way it's

2768
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:58,605
being applied. Like we may be

2769
01:37:58,605 --> 01:38:00,541
getting an inferior product

2770
01:38:00,541 --> 01:38:03,009
that's applied badly. And and

2771
01:38:03,009 --> 01:38:06,747
so I'm not sure we should be

2772
01:38:06,747 --> 01:38:08,549
too quick to abandon the double

2773
01:38:08,549 --> 01:38:09,416
surface treatment. If we can

2774
01:38:09,416 --> 01:38:11,751
get a product to get it

2775
01:38:11,751 --> 01:38:14,621
properly laid on a on a proper

2776
01:38:14,621 --> 01:38:18,425
surface. It it it has been very

2777
01:38:18,425 --> 01:38:20,627
economical and effective in the

2778
01:38:20,627 --> 01:38:22,496
past. It's just recently that

2779
01:38:22,496 --> 01:38:26,633
it hasn't been. through you,

2780
01:38:26,633 --> 01:38:29,503
madam deputy mayor? Yes. So,

2781
01:38:29,503 --> 01:38:32,006
you are absolutely correct. So,

2782
01:38:32,006 --> 01:38:34,742
LCB has absolutely has its

2783
01:38:34,742 --> 01:38:37,478
place inside a road network. Um

2784
01:38:37,478 --> 01:38:40,614
and you can get different

2785
01:38:40,614 --> 01:38:42,982
formulas that are flexible. So,

2786
01:38:42,982 --> 01:38:45,685
it won't provide any structural

2787
01:38:45,685 --> 01:38:47,988
stability but as the traffic

2788
01:38:47,988 --> 01:38:50,624
moves along it, it will flex

2789
01:38:50,624 --> 01:38:52,893
underneath it but it really, it

2790
01:38:52,893 --> 01:38:55,496
really comes back to importance

2791
01:38:55,496 --> 01:38:56,897
of engineering and and knowing

2792
01:38:56,897 --> 01:38:59,533
what you're doing. Uh having

2793
01:38:59,533 --> 01:39:02,403
the the previous work done by

2794
01:39:02,403 --> 01:39:06,106
Sarah and Michelle and Tara and

2795
01:39:06,106 --> 01:39:07,674
the previous public works

2796
01:39:07,674 --> 01:39:09,676
directors has I wouldn't have

2797
01:39:09,676 --> 01:39:12,446
been able to come to this

2798
01:39:12,446 --> 01:39:14,581
report if I hadn't had that

2799
01:39:14,581 --> 01:39:20,053
previous information going and finding these guys and and

2800
01:39:20,053 --> 01:39:26,427
getting

2801
01:39:26,427 --> 01:39:35,469
When we put down LCB roads that

2802
01:39:35,469 --> 01:39:38,072
proved for for 2022 are really

2803
01:39:38,072 --> 01:39:39,606
going to help. Cuz we need to

2804
01:39:39,606 --> 01:39:42,042
know where the traffic is. Uh

2805
01:39:42,042 --> 01:39:42,976
what the conditions are

2806
01:39:42,976 --> 01:39:44,878
underneath the road. What sort

2807
01:39:44,878 --> 01:39:47,581
of and the recipes that you can

2808
01:39:47,581 --> 01:39:51,819
use to put down an LCD road are

2809
01:39:51,819 --> 01:39:52,886
enormous. There's there's a

2810
01:39:52,886 --> 01:39:55,522
huge range. Um and sometimes

2811
01:39:55,522 --> 01:39:57,057
they can be sometimes it's not

2812
01:39:57,057 --> 01:39:58,224
even a matter of quality

2813
01:39:58,224 --> 01:40:00,661
control. It's almost

2814
01:40:00,661 --> 01:40:02,496
terminology. He said I want a

2815
01:40:02,496 --> 01:40:04,831
chip seal road and he said I

2816
01:40:04,831 --> 01:40:06,567
want a surface treatment road.

2817
01:40:06,567 --> 01:40:08,135
And that meant two different

2818
01:40:08,135 --> 01:40:09,236
things to two different people.

2819
01:40:09,236 --> 01:40:11,771
Uh so yet. You're absolutely

2820
01:40:11,771 --> 01:40:15,476
right And I I have my theories

2821
01:40:15,476 --> 01:40:17,411
of why some of these roads have

2822
01:40:17,411 --> 01:40:20,481
failed but until we do the

2823
01:40:20,481 --> 01:40:22,449
engineering, I can't really.

2824
01:40:22,449 --> 01:40:24,818
Thank you very much. That's

2825
01:40:24,818 --> 01:40:26,085
much appreciated and like

2826
01:40:26,085 --> 01:40:27,488
everyone said, an excellent

2827
01:40:27,488 --> 01:40:28,989
report. Okay, last comment to

2828
01:40:28,989 --> 01:40:30,057
them. We've gotta move on.

2829
01:40:30,057 --> 01:40:32,025
We've gotta get to our next.

2830
01:40:32,025 --> 01:40:35,129
No, no, no, no. Thank you very

2831
01:40:35,129 --> 01:40:36,596
much for your report. Thank

2832
01:40:36,596 --> 01:40:39,499
you. Um okay so you've heard

2833
01:40:39,499 --> 01:40:41,168
the motion. Um did you put the

2834
01:40:41,168 --> 01:40:43,237
motion on the table? Okay. All

2835
01:40:43,237 --> 01:40:44,605
in favor of the motion.

2836
01:40:44,605 --> 01:40:47,141
Carried. Thank you. Um we have

2837
01:40:47,141 --> 01:40:50,010
next the fire department,

2838
01:40:50,010 --> 01:40:52,913
departmental work plan update.

2839
01:40:52,913 --> 01:40:57,117
Councillor Massey.

2840
01:40:57,117 --> 01:41:00,621
Okay? Councilor Noble. Thank

2841
01:41:00,621 --> 01:41:03,390
you, Deputy Mayor. Seconded in

2842
01:41:03,390 --> 01:41:04,724
by Councilor Manley, that the

2843
01:41:04,724 --> 01:41:06,226
Committee of the Whole receives

2844
01:41:06,226 --> 01:41:11,465
report of

2845
01:41:11,465 --> 01:41:12,766
Twenty-2 from the Fire

2846
01:41:12,766 --> 01:41:14,468
Department for information

2847
01:41:14,468 --> 01:41:16,670
purposes only. Great. Let's go

2848
01:41:16,670 --> 01:41:18,005
ahead, Matthew. Thank you,

2849
01:41:18,005 --> 01:41:18,739
Deputy Mayor. Uh just some

2850
01:41:18,739 --> 01:41:20,707
quick updates on a few items.

2851
01:41:20,707 --> 01:41:22,575
So, our communication system is

2852
01:41:22,575 --> 01:41:24,611
still ongoing with some delays

2853
01:41:24,611 --> 01:41:26,480
and some equipment due to the

2854
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:29,249
due to COVID. However, we did

2855
01:41:29,249 --> 01:41:31,451
receive some new portable

2856
01:41:31,451 --> 01:41:32,519
radios for the roads

2857
01:41:32,519 --> 01:41:33,420
department. So, each one of

2858
01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:34,588
their members can have a

2859
01:41:34,588 --> 01:41:36,957
portable radio that's going to

2860
01:41:36,957 --> 01:41:38,559
be linked into our

2861
01:41:38,559 --> 01:41:40,394
communication system across

2862
01:41:40,394 --> 01:41:41,461
township. So, they'll have

2863
01:41:41,461 --> 01:41:43,931
access to Township wide

2864
01:41:43,931 --> 01:41:45,933
communication for internally

2865
01:41:45,933 --> 01:41:47,134
and should there be any

2866
01:41:47,134 --> 01:41:49,236
emergency situation. We'll be

2867
01:41:49,236 --> 01:41:50,938
able to all communicate

2868
01:41:50,938 --> 01:41:52,139
effectively. So this will also

2869
01:41:52,139 --> 01:41:53,674
include the emergency operation

2870
01:41:53,674 --> 01:41:56,009
centre here. Uh so we'll have

2871
01:41:56,009 --> 01:41:57,411
proper radio communications

2872
01:41:57,411 --> 01:41:59,146
throughout all the departments

2873
01:41:59,146 --> 01:42:01,715
throughout our township. In

2874
01:42:01,715 --> 01:42:03,183
terms of fire permits. Uh

2875
01:42:03,183 --> 01:42:05,552
currently agriculture permits.

2876
01:42:05,552 --> 01:42:07,354
Um we've issued 15 so far but

2877
01:42:07,354 --> 01:42:09,623
currently there's zero

2878
01:42:09,623 --> 01:42:11,992
currently approved right now.

2879
01:42:11,992 --> 01:42:13,327
Brush permits we have 79 and

2880
01:42:13,327 --> 01:42:16,463
recreational learning. So, we

2881
01:42:16,463 --> 01:42:17,431
typically see an increase as

2882
01:42:17,431 --> 01:42:18,231
the year goes on and or

2883
01:42:18,231 --> 01:42:21,168
whenever residents require

2884
01:42:21,168 --> 01:42:23,537
them. In terms of our training,

2885
01:42:23,537 --> 01:42:24,938
we've resumed our training as

2886
01:42:24,938 --> 01:42:27,507
of February 7th after

2887
01:42:27,507 --> 01:42:28,976
suspending due to COVID to

2888
01:42:28,976 --> 01:42:30,544
ensure that we can remain

2889
01:42:30,544 --> 01:42:33,080
operationalism and due to some

2890
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:36,984
of the restrictions. Uh regular

2891
01:42:36,984 --> 01:42:38,552
training meetings, just an

2892
01:42:38,552 --> 01:42:41,021
outline of some of the training

2893
01:42:41,021 --> 01:42:42,022
that we're going to be focusing

2894
01:42:42,022 --> 01:42:43,556
on. Uh medical response and

2895
01:42:43,556 --> 01:42:45,959
fire behavior as well as our

2896
01:42:45,959 --> 01:42:49,162
yearly first aid CP that's

2897
01:42:49,162 --> 01:42:51,598
going to be going on. We've

2898
01:42:51,598 --> 01:42:52,866
recently enrolled some of our

2899
01:42:52,866 --> 01:42:55,669
members in some Ontario Fire

2900
01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:57,204
College courses which include

2901
01:42:57,204 --> 01:42:59,973
fire inspection, incident,

2902
01:42:59,973 --> 01:43:01,808
safety officer as well as

2903
01:43:01,808 --> 01:43:04,978
hazardous material awareness.

2904
01:43:04,978 --> 01:43:06,746
Recently, just an update from

2905
01:43:06,746 --> 01:43:08,114
the province in terms of

2906
01:43:08,114 --> 01:43:10,016
firefighter certification. Uh

2907
01:43:10,016 --> 01:43:11,551
the opposite of fire marshal

2908
01:43:11,551 --> 01:43:12,953
recently provided an update

2909
01:43:12,953 --> 01:43:14,388
regarding firefighter

2910
01:43:14,388 --> 01:43:17,157
certification. Currently, there

2911
01:43:17,157 --> 01:43:19,926
is no standard firefighter

2912
01:43:19,926 --> 01:43:21,628
certification under the fire

2913
01:43:21,628 --> 01:43:22,995
prevention and protection act

2914
01:43:22,995 --> 01:43:25,799
in Ontario. So OFM has

2915
01:43:25,799 --> 01:43:27,300
developed a proposed regulation

2916
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:30,737
just currently under the F PPA

2917
01:43:30,737 --> 01:43:32,005
which would introduce a

2918
01:43:32,005 --> 01:43:34,441
mandatory minimum requirement.

2919
01:43:34,441 --> 01:43:36,143
The proposed approach is based

2920
01:43:36,143 --> 01:43:37,510
is going to be based on

2921
01:43:37,510 --> 01:43:40,947
specific job requirements. Um

2922
01:43:40,947 --> 01:43:45,619
and competencies through the National Fire

2923
01:43:45,619 --> 01:43:47,554
Protection and Association

2924
01:43:47,554 --> 01:43:50,891
Standards. So the regulation is

2925
01:43:50,891 --> 01:43:53,160
in consultation draft and is

2926
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:54,561
posted for comment up until

2927
01:43:54,561 --> 01:43:58,065
February twenty-8th. currently

2928
01:43:58,065 --> 01:44:02,903
OFEM has held meetings with

2929
01:44:02,903 --> 01:44:03,570
stakeholders including fire

2930
01:44:03,570 --> 01:44:04,938
chiefs across the province

2931
01:44:04,938 --> 01:44:07,040
where they've had town halls

2932
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,977
and Q&A sessions. The new

2933
01:44:10,977 --> 01:44:12,546
proposed regulations will have

2934
01:44:12,546 --> 01:44:14,915
some impacts on our department.

2935
01:44:14,915 --> 01:44:17,884
Impact in our current and new

2936
01:44:17,884 --> 01:44:19,519
recruits. Our department

2937
01:44:19,519 --> 01:44:21,154
remains in a good standing

2938
01:44:21,154 --> 01:44:23,423
order in terms of being able to

2939
01:44:23,423 --> 01:44:24,925
meet these requirements. Um

2940
01:44:24,925 --> 01:44:28,095
however, you know, with basis

2941
01:44:28,095 --> 01:44:29,563
with our new we'll be able to

2942
01:44:29,563 --> 01:44:30,997
really move forward and

2943
01:44:30,997 --> 01:44:32,966
continue to move forward

2944
01:44:32,966 --> 01:44:34,634
ensuring that however the

2945
01:44:34,634 --> 01:44:35,936
proposed regulation goes

2946
01:44:35,936 --> 01:44:37,470
whether there's any changes

2947
01:44:37,470 --> 01:44:41,141
once it comes into effect. We

2948
01:44:41,141 --> 01:44:43,176
anticipate a final draft in

2949
01:44:43,176 --> 01:44:45,479
July twenty twenty-two which

2950
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,215
will see a a transition period

2951
01:44:48,215 --> 01:44:50,517
of of four years to get fully

2952
01:44:50,517 --> 01:44:53,286
certified. And six years for

2953
01:44:53,286 --> 01:44:55,288
certain certifications. Um I'll

2954
01:44:55,288 --> 01:44:56,757
be providing a report for and

2955
01:44:56,757 --> 01:45:00,993
in most likely in March to

2956
01:45:00,993 --> 01:45:02,629
outline where we're going to be

2957
01:45:02,629 --> 01:45:03,930
going in terms of even just to

2958
01:45:03,930 --> 01:45:05,298
give an outline of all the

2959
01:45:05,298 --> 01:45:06,500
certification that's required

2960
01:45:06,500 --> 01:45:10,437
for us as a fire department. In

2961
01:45:10,437 --> 01:45:13,540
terms of recruitment we've just

2962
01:45:13,540 --> 01:45:16,910
announced a recruitment drive

2963
01:45:16,910 --> 01:45:19,346
for 2022. And we'll be

2964
01:45:19,346 --> 01:45:21,147
forecasting hopefully 10 to 12

2965
01:45:21,147 --> 01:45:23,550
new recruits. And hopefully

2966
01:45:23,550 --> 01:45:25,852
we'll be of course loading them

2967
01:45:25,852 --> 01:45:29,956
in the month of May or June.

2968
01:45:29,956 --> 01:45:31,691
Fire prevention, we continue to

2969
01:45:31,691 --> 01:45:33,994
conduct inspections. Um as

2970
01:45:33,994 --> 01:45:37,664
outlined in our ENR. as well as

2971
01:45:37,664 --> 01:45:39,132
we'll be conducting a

2972
01:45:39,132 --> 01:45:40,901
door-to-door smoke detector

2973
01:45:40,901 --> 01:45:42,536
campaign that's going to be

2974
01:45:42,536 --> 01:45:43,904
announced through social media

2975
01:45:43,904 --> 01:45:46,440
and so forth which will align

2976
01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:50,510
with our recruitment drive.

2977
01:45:50,510 --> 01:45:52,045
We've also we'll be adding some

2978
01:45:52,045 --> 01:45:55,582
fire inspectors to our fire

2979
01:45:55,582 --> 01:45:56,249
prevention division. This will

2980
01:45:56,249 --> 01:45:58,752
be within each station to

2981
01:45:58,752 --> 01:45:59,419
assist the senior fire

2982
01:45:59,419 --> 01:46:01,455
prevention officer. Uh conduct

2983
01:46:01,455 --> 01:46:03,590
inspections throughout the the

2984
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:06,626
township. In terms of our

2985
01:46:06,626 --> 01:46:08,161
fleet, we recently implemented

2986
01:46:08,161 --> 01:46:09,796
a new vehicle and equipment

2987
01:46:09,796 --> 01:46:12,232
inspection system called Check

2988
01:46:12,232 --> 01:46:14,901
It for Apparatus. This is an

2989
01:46:14,901 --> 01:46:16,937
online system that's

2990
01:46:16,937 --> 01:46:18,605
implemented for provides

2991
01:46:18,605 --> 01:46:21,141
inspection required

2992
01:46:21,141 --> 01:46:22,042
inspections, weekly

2993
01:46:22,042 --> 01:46:23,510
inspections, as well as

2994
01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:25,979
inventories. All are are

2995
01:46:25,979 --> 01:46:28,915
assets. Uh tracking

2996
01:46:28,915 --> 01:46:30,116
maintenance, as well as any

2997
01:46:30,116 --> 01:46:32,052
fuel. So, we'll be able to to

2998
01:46:32,052 --> 01:46:34,221
visualize and see it and

2999
01:46:34,221 --> 01:46:36,923
year-end report providing where

3000
01:46:36,923 --> 01:46:38,625
the required sleet and how much

3001
01:46:38,625 --> 01:46:40,026
increase in vehicles and so

3002
01:46:40,026 --> 01:46:41,294
forth and which fleet we need

3003
01:46:41,294 --> 01:46:43,497
to address specific items. So,

3004
01:46:43,497 --> 01:46:44,931
it'll be a great tool of moving

3005
01:46:44,931 --> 01:46:47,567
forward. Uh that pretty much

3006
01:46:47,567 --> 01:46:48,935
concludes my report. Thank you.

3007
01:46:48,935 --> 01:46:50,604
for your report. Any

3008
01:46:50,604 --> 01:46:52,338
questions? comments from

3009
01:46:52,338 --> 01:46:55,809
anybody? Okay, you've heard the

3010
01:46:55,809 --> 01:46:56,576
motion, all in favor of the

3011
01:46:56,576 --> 01:46:58,445
motion. Carried. Thank you,

3012
01:46:58,445 --> 01:47:01,648
Matthew. Um we have another

3013
01:47:01,648 --> 01:47:03,983
business, we Councilor Noble

3014
01:47:03,983 --> 01:47:06,452
has requested to address to

3015
01:47:06,452 --> 01:47:10,390
talk about the a Zoom vote.

3016
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:12,926
Thank you for reminding me. I

3017
01:47:12,926 --> 01:47:15,395
just wondered what we have to

3018
01:47:15,395 --> 01:47:16,930
do, what we have to do

3019
01:47:16,930 --> 01:47:20,934
officially to allow us to vote

3020
01:47:20,934 --> 01:47:22,636
while we're attending the

3021
01:47:22,636 --> 01:47:23,736
meetings because like if it was

3022
01:47:23,736 --> 01:47:24,637
last night, I wouldn't have

3023
01:47:24,637 --> 01:47:26,606
come. Um so, obviously, watch

3024
01:47:26,606 --> 01:47:28,741
and I guess I could just text

3025
01:47:28,741 --> 01:47:30,209
in a vote but like what do we

3026
01:47:30,209 --> 01:47:31,811
have to do to make those things

3027
01:47:31,811 --> 01:47:35,815
legal? Yes, please go ahead.

3028
01:47:35,815 --> 01:47:37,284
So, through mister Stephanie

3029
01:47:37,284 --> 01:47:39,152
Mayer. Um so, Councilor Noble,

3030
01:47:39,152 --> 01:47:40,053
we have to change the procedure

3031
01:47:40,053 --> 01:47:42,455
of bylaw to allow electronic

3032
01:47:42,455 --> 01:47:43,456
voting. So, what you're

3033
01:47:43,456 --> 01:47:44,224
suggesting is that, you know,

3034
01:47:44,224 --> 01:47:45,491
if you hadn't been able to

3035
01:47:45,491 --> 01:47:47,460
attend that we would put you

3036
01:47:47,460 --> 01:47:48,228
somehow up on the screen and

3037
01:47:48,228 --> 01:47:49,596
that you'd be able to vote here

3038
01:47:49,596 --> 01:47:51,464
at the council table. So,

3039
01:47:51,464 --> 01:47:52,198
there's two different options.

3040
01:47:52,198 --> 01:47:53,533
There's one where you can have

3041
01:47:53,533 --> 01:47:55,602
a procedural bylaw change where

3042
01:47:55,602 --> 01:47:57,270
the counselor can view from

3043
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:58,605
home but not have voting rights

3044
01:47:58,605 --> 01:48:00,106
and then the second option is

3045
01:48:00,106 --> 01:48:01,675
to allow them to be able to

3046
01:48:01,675 --> 01:48:04,611
vote from afar. We haven't

3047
01:48:04,611 --> 01:48:05,812
brought that change to council

3048
01:48:05,812 --> 01:48:07,147
because we haven't been

3049
01:48:07,147 --> 01:48:08,048
requested as staff to do so.

3050
01:48:08,048 --> 01:48:09,149
that's why I wanted you to

3051
01:48:09,149 --> 01:48:11,284
bring it up today for Council

3052
01:48:11,284 --> 01:48:12,585
to sort of discuss and then, we

3053
01:48:12,585 --> 01:48:14,220
can certainly bring back a

3054
01:48:14,220 --> 01:48:15,422
change for the procedure. By

3055
01:48:15,422 --> 01:48:16,155
the way, I have some other

3056
01:48:16,155 --> 01:48:16,823
administrative things I'd like

3057
01:48:16,823 --> 01:48:19,426
to change as well that I can

3058
01:48:19,426 --> 01:48:20,760
bring at the same time. It's

3059
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:21,828
just, you don't like to bring

3060
01:48:21,828 --> 01:48:22,996
your procedural bylaw too

3061
01:48:22,996 --> 01:48:24,564
often. Usually a couple of

3062
01:48:24,564 --> 01:48:26,132
times during the term so. Yeah,

3063
01:48:26,132 --> 01:48:28,401
just so we, you can vote, you

3064
01:48:28,401 --> 01:48:30,103
can count, and your attendance

3065
01:48:30,103 --> 01:48:31,671
counted, you were there. Mm

3066
01:48:31,671 --> 01:48:32,305
hmm. Whether your sunny south

3067
01:48:32,305 --> 01:48:40,013
or at home. Thank you.

3068
01:48:40,013 --> 01:48:42,749
to at a council meeting because

3069
01:48:42,749 --> 01:48:45,018
I'm I'm utterly opposed to it.

3070
01:48:45,018 --> 01:48:46,886
I think you need to be at a

3071
01:48:46,886 --> 01:48:49,289
meeting and I think it'll be

3072
01:48:49,289 --> 01:48:50,890
just become an excuse on a

3073
01:48:50,890 --> 01:48:52,225
night where maybe the roads are

3074
01:48:52,225 --> 01:48:53,693
bad, maybe they aren't, that

3075
01:48:53,693 --> 01:48:54,628
you're not going to be here. I

3076
01:48:54,628 --> 01:48:56,029
think if we're having in-person

3077
01:48:56,029 --> 01:48:57,163
meetings, we have in-person

3078
01:48:57,163 --> 01:48:58,765
meetings. If we have a night

3079
01:48:58,765 --> 01:48:59,699
like last night, we would have

3080
01:48:59,699 --> 01:49:00,232
cancelled the meeting,

3081
01:49:00,232 --> 01:49:04,970
obviously. So, I I don't I don't like that idea. I

3082
01:49:04,970 --> 01:49:06,972
don't think it's you know, I'm

3083
01:49:06,972 --> 01:49:11,511
sitting in Mexico and I'm come

3084
01:49:11,511 --> 01:49:13,179
on and you know, I just don't

3085
01:49:13,179 --> 01:49:14,414
think it's proper. I think that

3086
01:49:14,414 --> 01:49:16,048
you should be here at the

3087
01:49:16,048 --> 01:49:18,685
meeting and but again, that's

3088
01:49:18,685 --> 01:49:20,186
just my opinion. Uh all members

3089
01:49:20,186 --> 01:49:21,621
of council want a different

3090
01:49:21,621 --> 01:49:24,024
way. I just look at we've done

3091
01:49:24,024 --> 01:49:26,526
this now for since amalgamation

3092
01:49:26,526 --> 01:49:27,960
since 98 and we haven't had

3093
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:29,429
those kind of issues. I know

3094
01:49:29,429 --> 01:49:30,997
we're moving forward in a

3095
01:49:30,997 --> 01:49:32,966
different kind of world but I I

3096
01:49:32,966 --> 01:49:34,734
just don't see it. Councilor

3097
01:49:34,734 --> 01:49:37,270
Wendy? Right? Ray, I agree with

3098
01:49:37,270 --> 01:49:38,137
a lot of what you're saying.

3099
01:49:38,137 --> 01:49:40,040
However, their circumstances

3100
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:41,007
where maybe you can't leave

3101
01:49:41,007 --> 01:49:42,742
your home because you might be

3102
01:49:42,742 --> 01:49:43,810
a caregiver. There might be

3103
01:49:43,810 --> 01:49:46,413
extenuating circumstances that

3104
01:49:46,413 --> 01:49:48,014
the flexibility to allow

3105
01:49:48,014 --> 01:49:49,482
someone to attend from home

3106
01:49:49,482 --> 01:49:50,516
through Zoom and be able to

3107
01:49:50,516 --> 01:49:52,218
vote I think is is a good

3108
01:49:52,218 --> 01:49:54,487
option and maybe there's just

3109
01:49:54,487 --> 01:49:56,222
parameters around how we allow

3110
01:49:56,222 --> 01:49:59,726
that to happen. Um can I can I

3111
01:49:59,726 --> 01:50:01,761
make a suggestion? Um that I

3112
01:50:01,761 --> 01:50:04,230
think the our mayor's

3113
01:50:04,230 --> 01:50:05,498
suggestion of bringing it to

3114
01:50:05,498 --> 01:50:08,134
council with a report so that

3115
01:50:08,134 --> 01:50:10,003
we can formally you know debate

3116
01:50:10,003 --> 01:50:12,906
the issue because I I I know

3117
01:50:12,906 --> 01:50:15,508
that at Counties council

3118
01:50:15,508 --> 01:50:17,944
Councillor Jaworski wasn't

3119
01:50:17,944 --> 01:50:19,679
able. She she wasn't able to be

3120
01:50:19,679 --> 01:50:20,613
at the meeting because she had

3121
01:50:20,613 --> 01:50:21,681
other business. She had to take

3122
01:50:21,681 --> 01:50:23,149
care of so she needed to be in

3123
01:50:23,149 --> 01:50:24,918
front of her screen and go back

3124
01:50:24,918 --> 01:50:26,653
and forth. Um at home. And so

3125
01:50:26,653 --> 01:50:29,422
she was to attend the meeting.

3126
01:50:29,422 --> 01:50:31,524
That was, it's not written in

3127
01:50:31,524 --> 01:50:33,159
into the procedural bylaw

3128
01:50:33,159 --> 01:50:35,395
there, but she did request, it

3129
01:50:35,395 --> 01:50:37,163
was a formal request to, to

3130
01:50:37,163 --> 01:50:38,765
have that happen. Otherwise,

3131
01:50:38,765 --> 01:50:39,933
she wouldn't have been able to

3132
01:50:39,933 --> 01:50:41,400
participate. So, I think there

3133
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:46,138
are pluses and minuses, and, so, if, go ahead. Yeah, no,

3134
01:50:46,138 --> 01:50:48,074
I think, like I have no issue

3135
01:50:48,074 --> 01:50:50,043
making it like twice a year or

3136
01:50:50,043 --> 01:50:51,478
something, just, you know, so

3137
01:50:51,478 --> 01:50:52,211
you don't just every Saturday

3138
01:50:52,211 --> 01:50:54,013
or every Mondays, yeah, I

3139
01:50:54,013 --> 01:50:55,482
don't, I don't feel like going,

3140
01:50:55,482 --> 01:50:56,215
just, I seriously can't get

3141
01:50:56,215 --> 01:50:58,885
there, I seriously, you know,

3142
01:50:58,885 --> 01:51:00,954
because obviously, we have

3143
01:51:00,954 --> 01:51:01,588
snowstorms that don't happen

3144
01:51:01,588 --> 01:51:04,156
here. Um two roads apart there.

3145
01:51:04,156 --> 01:51:05,725
So, there are certain certain

3146
01:51:05,725 --> 01:51:07,593
things that I think, yeah, if

3147
01:51:07,593 --> 01:51:09,295
you make it just, it has to be

3148
01:51:09,295 --> 01:51:10,229
a really good reason or it has

3149
01:51:10,229 --> 01:51:11,997
to be only twice a year or I

3150
01:51:11,997 --> 01:51:14,467
mean, does our attendance even

3151
01:51:14,467 --> 01:51:16,002
count? You know what I mean?

3152
01:51:16,002 --> 01:51:17,070
Like, if you miss forty

3153
01:51:17,070 --> 01:51:17,771
meetings, obviously the problem

3154
01:51:17,771 --> 01:51:20,105
but if you may miss two or

3155
01:51:20,105 --> 01:51:21,374
three. More than two in a row.

3156
01:51:21,374 --> 01:51:25,511
Uh The third one you can you

3157
01:51:25,511 --> 01:51:27,647
can be removed from counsel.

3158
01:51:27,647 --> 01:51:29,282
Right. Right. So, I think there

3159
01:51:29,282 --> 01:51:30,750
has to be a backup for that.

3160
01:51:30,750 --> 01:51:31,818
Just to that point, I mean, I

3161
01:51:31,818 --> 01:51:32,919
know we can keep talking about

3162
01:51:32,919 --> 01:51:33,686
this but let's get a report

3163
01:51:33,686 --> 01:51:36,055
from and have a full a full

3164
01:51:36,055 --> 01:51:37,657
debate at council. Sure. That's

3165
01:51:37,657 --> 01:51:40,159
what we should be. Okay, thank

3166
01:51:40,159 --> 01:51:42,695
you. Uh if everyone's okay, we

3167
01:51:42,695 --> 01:51:44,931
will we will skip matters

3168
01:51:44,931 --> 01:51:46,032
arising from Standing Committee

3169
01:51:46,032 --> 01:51:48,100
s due to time constraints we

3170
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:49,836
need to get on with the other

3171
01:51:49,836 --> 01:51:52,104
meeting. Um so, if that's

3172
01:51:52,104 --> 01:51:53,573
alright with everybody, then,

3173
01:51:53,573 --> 01:51:55,675
do we don't have any notice of

3174
01:51:55,675 --> 01:51:58,444
motion? Um Councilor Manly if

3175
01:51:58,444 --> 01:52:00,046
you would please adjourn the

3176
01:52:00,046 --> 01:52:02,448
meeting. Deputy mayor move on

3177
01:52:02,448 --> 01:52:04,050
myself second by Councilor

3178
01:52:04,050 --> 01:52:05,118
Madden to be known for the

3179
01:52:05,118 --> 01:52:05,852
business discuss. The meeting

3180
01:52:05,852 --> 01:52:09,188
was adjourned at 453 PM. Okay

3181
01:52:09,188 --> 01:52:11,624
and once heard the motion all

3182
01:52:11,624 --> 01:52:13,559
in favor. Okay Carrie. So thank

3183
01:52:13,559 --> 01:52:15,795
you. I'll pass the chair back

3184
01:52:15,795 --> 01:52:17,730
over to the mayor and we'll

3185
01:52:17,730 --> 01:52:20,800
move into the the special

3186
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:43,523
meeting.

3187
01:52:43,523 --> 01:52:46,392
We're not we're not using our

3188
01:52:46,392 --> 01:52:48,794
microphones enough. And also

3189
01:52:48,794 --> 01:52:51,497
for all of staff it makes no

3190
01:52:51,497 --> 01:52:53,032
sense for if we're going to if

3191
01:52:53,032 --> 01:52:54,233
it's all about transparency

3192
01:52:54,233 --> 01:52:55,535
please get up and go to the

3193
01:52:55,535 --> 01:52:57,036
microphone until you know it's

3194
01:52:57,036 --> 01:52:58,338
such time that we move to the

3195
01:52:58,338 --> 01:52:59,505
new place and everybody has a

3196
01:52:59,505 --> 01:53:01,274
microphone. Uh just because we

3197
01:53:01,274 --> 01:53:02,575
can't hear anything you're

3198
01:53:02,575 --> 01:53:04,444
saying unless you're at a

3199
01:53:04,444 --> 01:53:07,680
microphone. So it's just very

3200
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:08,748
confusing listening to it on

3201
01:53:08,748 --> 01:53:10,616
the way here and you you don't

3202
01:53:10,616 --> 01:53:11,784
really know what the the flow

3203
01:53:11,784 --> 01:53:13,453
of the meeting that's happening

3204
01:53:13,453 --> 01:53:15,555
just for people at the just for

3205
01:53:15,555 --> 01:53:16,890
those people that you know that

3206
01:53:16,890 --> 01:53:18,224
want to have meetings at home.

3207
01:53:18,224 --> 01:53:21,527
So just kidding. Okay, I'll

3208
01:53:21,527 --> 01:53:22,227
call the meeting to order. Are

3209
01:53:22,227 --> 01:53:23,495
there any decorations of

3210
01:53:23,495 --> 01:53:25,565
interest or the general nature

3211
01:53:25,565 --> 01:53:27,800
thereof? Seeing none. I have a

3212
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:29,935
motion moved by Deputy Mayor

3213
01:53:29,935 --> 01:53:31,637
Williams. Seconded by Councilor

3214
01:53:31,637 --> 01:53:33,006
Massey that the Council of

3215
01:53:33,006 --> 01:53:34,106
Township in North Glengarry

3216
01:53:34,106 --> 01:53:35,274
accepts the agenda of the

3217
01:53:35,274 --> 01:53:36,743
Special Medium Council. On

3218
01:53:36,743 --> 01:53:41,347
Wednesday February 23rd 2022.

3219
01:53:41,347 --> 01:53:43,282
any discussion. Seeing none,

3220
01:53:43,282 --> 01:53:44,217
all those in favor of the

3221
01:53:44,217 --> 01:53:47,287
motion. Motion is carried. Uh

3222
01:53:47,287 --> 01:53:49,522
and we will move right on to

3223
01:53:49,522 --> 01:53:51,190
delegations, IHA, Canada,

3224
01:53:51,190 --> 01:53:52,558
presented by Will Ball and

3225
01:53:52,558 --> 01:53:57,530
Steve Griefson. Welcome Will.

3226
01:53:57,530 --> 01:53:59,966
Thank you everybody. Uh first

3227
01:53:59,966 --> 01:54:02,635
off, I'm going to have to

3228
01:54:02,635 --> 01:54:03,636
apologize for Steve. It's funny

3229
01:54:03,636 --> 01:54:05,538
that we brought up the weather.

3230
01:54:05,538 --> 01:54:09,142
Uh Steve got stuck in at his

3231
01:54:09,142 --> 01:54:10,442
house with the ice storm and he

3232
01:54:10,442 --> 01:54:11,945
wasn't able to make it today.

3233
01:54:11,945 --> 01:54:13,446
He is on the call on the

3234
01:54:13,446 --> 01:54:15,915
council virtually. So, come the

3235
01:54:15,915 --> 01:54:18,751
question period. I think we're

3236
01:54:18,751 --> 01:54:19,519
going to be able to bring

3237
01:54:19,519 --> 01:54:21,654
Steven to answer questions as

3238
01:54:21,654 --> 01:54:25,825
well. So, okay. So, I guess

3239
01:54:25,825 --> 01:54:27,593
this is the same. Okay, well,

3240
01:54:27,593 --> 01:54:30,162
as as the mayor said, my name

3241
01:54:30,162 --> 01:54:32,565
is Will Vall. I'm the CEO of

3242
01:54:32,565 --> 01:54:34,901
IHA Canada and I've been one of

3243
01:54:34,901 --> 01:54:37,370
the founders from the early

3244
01:54:37,370 --> 01:54:39,138
stages of this project. Uh I

3245
01:54:39,138 --> 01:54:40,439
appreciate the opportunity to

3246
01:54:40,439 --> 01:54:42,976
present everybody. I think I've

3247
01:54:42,976 --> 01:54:44,610
had a chance to meet most of

3248
01:54:44,610 --> 01:54:46,346
you in the past but I I do see

3249
01:54:46,346 --> 01:54:47,680
a couple of new faces. How you

3250
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:51,718
doing? Um this has been quite a

3251
01:54:51,718 --> 01:54:55,088
journey you know I was

3252
01:54:55,088 --> 01:54:56,990
reflecting on this as I was

3253
01:54:56,990 --> 01:54:58,024
putting together this

3254
01:54:58,024 --> 01:55:00,393
presentation and you know,

3255
01:55:00,393 --> 01:55:01,160
personally, I started working

3256
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:03,629
on this project more than three

3257
01:55:03,629 --> 01:55:07,533
years ago when it was an idea

3258
01:55:07,533 --> 01:55:10,036
and I was pretty thankful that

3259
01:55:10,036 --> 01:55:12,438
North Glengarry took us up on

3260
01:55:12,438 --> 01:55:15,408
exploring that idea in a lot

3261
01:55:15,408 --> 01:55:16,909
more detail now at this point.

3262
01:55:16,909 --> 01:55:20,579
So, I also want to thank a

3263
01:55:20,579 --> 01:55:21,948
couple of folks in this room

3264
01:55:21,948 --> 01:55:23,916
specifically Jacob and Sarah

3265
01:55:23,916 --> 01:55:27,520
who have been really helpful

3266
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,489
and masterful part of bringing

3267
01:55:29,489 --> 01:55:31,691
this to a point of actually

3268
01:55:31,691 --> 01:55:33,159
being able to present this to

3269
01:55:33,159 --> 01:55:35,427
council. So so thanks to them

3270
01:55:35,427 --> 01:55:37,829
as well. And I'll get right

3271
01:55:37,829 --> 01:55:40,166
into it. Um this is our mission

3272
01:55:40,166 --> 01:55:41,801
statement. So I'll read it out

3273
01:55:41,801 --> 01:55:43,503
for most of the folks that

3274
01:55:43,503 --> 01:55:44,970
haven't seen it. Uh at IHA

3275
01:55:44,970 --> 01:55:46,372
Canada we provide innovative,

3276
01:55:46,372 --> 01:55:47,673
independent, and progressive

3277
01:55:47,673 --> 01:55:49,142
care lifestyle living with a

3278
01:55:49,142 --> 01:55:51,444
fully integrated campus of care

3279
01:55:51,444 --> 01:55:53,545
support and services for

3280
01:55:53,545 --> 01:55:56,048
seniors. Uh we do this by

3281
01:55:56,048 --> 01:55:57,683
providing affordable rental

3282
01:55:57,683 --> 01:55:59,085
accommodations with a safe and

3283
01:55:59,085 --> 01:56:00,953
sustainable village setting

3284
01:56:00,953 --> 01:56:02,888
supported by optional high

3285
01:56:02,888 --> 01:56:05,091
quality and fully integrated

3286
01:56:05,091 --> 01:56:06,426
senior center health senior

3287
01:56:06,426 --> 01:56:07,327
centered health care, home

3288
01:56:07,327 --> 01:56:09,462
care, and wellness related

3289
01:56:09,462 --> 01:56:11,097
support services and

3290
01:56:11,097 --> 01:56:13,833
activities. That's a bit of a

3291
01:56:13,833 --> 01:56:17,537
mouthful. But essentially the

3292
01:56:17,537 --> 01:56:19,939
theme of it is providing

3293
01:56:19,939 --> 01:56:22,608
affordable accommodations for

3294
01:56:22,608 --> 01:56:25,478
folks with a variety of needs

3295
01:56:25,478 --> 01:56:29,615
that allow them to adapt the

3296
01:56:29,615 --> 01:56:30,916
care that they receive within

3297
01:56:30,916 --> 01:56:32,184
the dwelling that they live in

3298
01:56:32,184 --> 01:56:34,620
without having to move. So,

3299
01:56:34,620 --> 01:56:35,588
that's really what our goal was

3300
01:56:35,588 --> 01:56:37,457
from the start and and what I

3301
01:56:37,457 --> 01:56:39,292
think we've we've accomplished

3302
01:56:39,292 --> 01:56:40,993
with with what I'm about to

3303
01:56:40,993 --> 01:56:44,063
present. So, if you look at

3304
01:56:44,063 --> 01:56:46,566
this slide here, this is an

3305
01:56:46,566 --> 01:56:48,901
excerpt from the architectural

3306
01:56:48,901 --> 01:56:50,603
site plan. I don't know how

3307
01:56:50,603 --> 01:56:51,403
well you can actually see that

3308
01:56:51,403 --> 01:56:55,507
on the screen. Um but it's on

3309
01:56:55,507 --> 01:56:58,044
the vacant land directly north

3310
01:56:58,044 --> 01:57:00,613
of the hospital. And if you

3311
01:57:00,613 --> 01:57:08,621
notice here phase like

3312
01:57:08,621 --> 01:57:11,624
along the eastern border of the

3313
01:57:11,624 --> 01:57:14,994
site. Specifically, right as

3314
01:57:14,994 --> 01:57:16,529
Touchette Street turns into

3315
01:57:16,529 --> 01:57:20,566
industrial, that is the initial

3316
01:57:20,566 --> 01:57:22,969
connection into into the local

3317
01:57:22,969 --> 01:57:24,737
streets. I'll zoom in on the

3318
01:57:24,737 --> 01:57:26,606
next slide to see it a little

3319
01:57:26,606 --> 01:57:29,475
bit better. So, this is an

3320
01:57:29,475 --> 01:57:31,477
image of phase one. Uh it's

3321
01:57:31,477 --> 01:57:33,012
just a zoomed up version of the

3322
01:57:33,012 --> 01:57:35,148
last slide we were looking at.

3323
01:57:35,148 --> 01:57:37,283
Uh you'll see we've taken a bit

3324
01:57:37,283 --> 01:57:39,485
of a different approach to

3325
01:57:39,485 --> 01:57:42,054
housing development and just

3326
01:57:42,054 --> 01:57:44,457
setting up housing in general.

3327
01:57:44,457 --> 01:57:46,526
What we've really focused on

3328
01:57:46,526 --> 01:57:49,462
was

3329
01:57:49,462 --> 01:57:49,795
deemphasizin

3330
01:57:49,795 --> 01:57:52,465
g the the vehicle

3331
01:57:52,465 --> 01:57:54,867
in a traditional housing space

3332
01:57:54,867 --> 01:57:57,536
by creating parking lots as you

3333
01:57:57,536 --> 01:58:03,008
see here and really taking the dwelling, the house, and

3334
01:58:03,008 --> 01:58:04,544
making that the central focus

3335
01:58:04,544 --> 01:58:06,746
of the living space. So,

3336
01:58:06,746 --> 01:58:08,180
there's a couple of positives

3337
01:58:08,180 --> 01:58:08,848
that come out of that. Number

3338
01:58:08,848 --> 01:58:11,284
one, by removing the need to

3339
01:58:11,284 --> 01:58:12,618
have a vehicle directly

3340
01:58:12,618 --> 01:58:15,287
adjacent to every dwelling. Uh

3341
01:58:15,287 --> 01:58:18,624
we are able to create smaller

3342
01:58:18,624 --> 01:58:21,027
tighter spaces that encourage a

3343
01:58:21,027 --> 01:58:22,094
sense of strong sense of

3344
01:58:22,094 --> 01:58:23,696
community between adjacent

3345
01:58:23,696 --> 01:58:24,897
neighbors because the roadways

3346
01:58:24,897 --> 01:58:26,131
don't need to be as big and

3347
01:58:26,131 --> 01:58:29,602
what we really wanted to foster

3348
01:58:29,602 --> 01:58:32,872
was a the concept of what we

3349
01:58:32,872 --> 01:58:34,073
call pocket neighbourhoods. And

3350
01:58:34,073 --> 01:58:35,508
I know I've I've preached this

3351
01:58:35,508 --> 01:58:38,511
to this council before. Um but

3352
01:58:38,511 --> 01:58:40,580
what it really means is by

3353
01:58:40,580 --> 01:58:42,014
getting rid of that vehicle and

3354
01:58:42,014 --> 01:58:44,750
putting it off to the side you

3355
01:58:44,750 --> 01:58:47,553
end up having small parquettes

3356
01:58:47,553 --> 01:58:51,290
and more green space within

3357
01:58:51,290 --> 01:58:55,161
your actual living vicinity and

3358
01:58:55,161 --> 01:58:56,628
putting the the vehicle not

3359
01:58:56,628 --> 01:58:58,364
far. I mean, in our case, I

3360
01:58:58,364 --> 01:59:00,633
think the furthest vehicle is

3361
01:59:00,633 --> 01:59:02,368
about 50 meters away from the

3362
01:59:02,368 --> 01:59:03,703
furthest line. So, it's not far

3363
01:59:03,703 --> 01:59:05,404
but it just gets it a little

3364
01:59:05,404 --> 01:59:07,406
bit far enough away that you

3365
01:59:07,406 --> 01:59:09,141
really focus on garden space,

3366
01:59:09,141 --> 01:59:11,309
green space, and trees within

3367
01:59:11,309 --> 01:59:13,145
the immediate vicinity of your

3368
01:59:13,145 --> 01:59:15,748
living space. Um within phase

3369
01:59:15,748 --> 01:59:18,351
one and phase two, we have a

3370
01:59:18,351 --> 01:59:21,988
mixture of units ranging from

3371
01:59:21,988 --> 01:59:24,390
single detached houses, semi

3372
01:59:24,390 --> 01:59:26,993
detached, as well as deluxe and

3373
01:59:26,993 --> 01:59:29,996
standard row units. The the

3374
01:59:29,996 --> 01:59:32,498
rationale for that is again

3375
01:59:32,498 --> 01:59:35,000
trying to really serve a

3376
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,570
variety of individuals and

3377
01:59:37,570 --> 01:59:38,938
people at different

3378
01:59:38,938 --> 01:59:40,473
socioeconomic levels from

3379
01:59:40,473 --> 01:59:42,341
people that want that larger

3380
01:59:42,341 --> 01:59:44,377
space or maybe there are

3381
01:59:44,377 --> 01:59:45,878
couples so they need a larger

3382
01:59:45,878 --> 01:59:47,512
space. Um right down to

3383
01:59:47,512 --> 01:59:49,682
somebody who is much more

3384
01:59:49,682 --> 01:59:51,150
budget conscious. Maybe they're

3385
01:59:51,150 --> 01:59:51,951
an individual so they don't

3386
01:59:51,951 --> 01:59:53,652
need as much space or they have

3387
01:59:53,652 --> 01:59:54,487
mobility issues that having a

3388
01:59:54,487 --> 01:59:57,456
larger to clean, become

3389
01:59:57,456 --> 02:00:00,393
encumbersome. So, that is why

3390
02:00:00,393 --> 02:00:04,630
we did this range of housing

3391
02:00:04,630 --> 02:00:06,131
units, but what we also wanted

3392
02:00:06,131 --> 02:00:11,437
to avoid was having areas where

3393
02:00:11,437 --> 02:00:12,738
All the singles are in one

3394
02:00:12,738 --> 02:00:14,440
location. And then all the row

3395
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,542
housing is in another location.

3396
02:00:16,542 --> 02:00:18,210
Cuz now you create a scenario

3397
02:00:18,210 --> 02:00:20,546
where you have areas where

3398
02:00:20,546 --> 02:00:21,414
maybe you have the haves and

3399
02:00:21,414 --> 02:00:22,615
you have areas where there's

3400
02:00:22,615 --> 02:00:25,284
the have nots. So the people

3401
02:00:25,284 --> 02:00:26,886
that aren't as fortunate. So in

3402
02:00:26,886 --> 02:00:28,954
the site planning process we

3403
02:00:28,954 --> 02:00:31,023
really and I'll give our

3404
02:00:31,023 --> 02:00:32,058
architects a lot of credit

3405
02:00:32,058 --> 02:00:33,425
because they they didn't like

3406
02:00:33,425 --> 02:00:34,593
me much during this process.

3407
02:00:34,593 --> 02:00:38,130
But we really pushed hard to

3408
02:00:38,130 --> 02:00:42,033
create mixtures every area of

3409
02:00:42,033 --> 02:00:43,936
this development both phase 1

3410
02:00:43,936 --> 02:00:46,338
and two of, you know, you might

3411
02:00:46,338 --> 02:00:47,907
have a standard rowhouse right

3412
02:00:47,907 --> 02:00:49,274
next to a single and we think

3413
02:00:49,274 --> 02:00:50,743
that makes for a much more

3414
02:00:50,743 --> 02:00:52,912
vibrant community within within

3415
02:00:52,912 --> 02:00:58,484
our development. Yeah, please.

3416
02:00:58,484 --> 02:01:00,753
Uh I'd just like to go back to

3417
02:01:00,753 --> 02:01:02,755
parking for a second. Yep. Uh I

3418
02:01:02,755 --> 02:01:04,757
completely understand you know

3419
02:01:04,757 --> 02:01:05,924
the idea behind creating a

3420
02:01:05,924 --> 02:01:09,161
walkable community focused on a

3421
02:01:09,161 --> 02:01:12,631
natural environment and and and

3422
02:01:12,631 --> 02:01:14,767
a you know bringing people

3423
02:01:14,767 --> 02:01:19,672
together. Uh But it's a seniors

3424
02:01:19,672 --> 02:01:21,507
development. You know designed

3425
02:01:21,507 --> 02:01:24,043
for people who are aging. And

3426
02:01:24,043 --> 02:01:25,745
in some cases, as you pointed

3427
02:01:25,745 --> 02:01:26,812
out, we'll have mobility

3428
02:01:26,812 --> 02:01:31,450
issues. Um I don't know but

3429
02:01:31,450 --> 02:01:32,918
walking from some of those

3430
02:01:32,918 --> 02:01:34,720
units to the parking area for

3431
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:36,956
somebody with mobility issues.

3432
02:01:36,956 --> 02:01:39,825
It 50 meters is a long way for

3433
02:01:39,825 --> 02:01:42,395
sure. So, first off, I'll

3434
02:01:42,395 --> 02:01:44,129
address that by insight

3435
02:01:44,129 --> 02:01:45,831
planning. We actually consulted

3436
02:01:45,831 --> 02:01:47,166
with some of our healthcare

3437
02:01:47,166 --> 02:01:50,069
partners to set those

3438
02:01:50,069 --> 02:01:51,837
parameters on what is because

3439
02:01:51,837 --> 02:01:52,905
the question we essentially

3440
02:01:52,905 --> 02:01:54,206
asked ourselves is exactly what

3441
02:01:54,206 --> 02:01:56,541
you brought up. Hey, we want to

3442
02:01:56,541 --> 02:01:59,110
decentralize the car and and

3443
02:01:59,110 --> 02:02:00,479
but how far is too far, I

3444
02:02:00,479 --> 02:02:01,313
guess, is ultimately the

3445
02:02:01,313 --> 02:02:02,948
question we were trying to

3446
02:02:02,948 --> 02:02:05,284
answer and that number seemed

3447
02:02:05,284 --> 02:02:07,953
to keep creeping up. Now, with

3448
02:02:07,953 --> 02:02:10,055
that said, we've also

3449
02:02:10,055 --> 02:02:12,992
strategized and I'll talk about

3450
02:02:12,992 --> 02:02:14,994
barrier free units in a moment.

3451
02:02:14,994 --> 02:02:16,562
Um but the way we're

3452
02:02:16,562 --> 02:02:17,897
structuring this is the barrier

3453
02:02:17,897 --> 02:02:21,466
for units, IE typically for

3454
02:02:21,466 --> 02:02:22,735
somebody with more mobility

3455
02:02:22,735 --> 02:02:24,203
issues are the ones that are

3456
02:02:24,203 --> 02:02:25,938
actually going to be closer to

3457
02:02:25,938 --> 02:02:28,073
the parking lots. So, the the

3458
02:02:28,073 --> 02:02:29,442
way we've strategized the

3459
02:02:29,442 --> 02:02:30,643
actual and we're going to sort

3460
02:02:30,643 --> 02:02:32,344
this out in in detail during

3461
02:02:32,344 --> 02:02:34,447
the building permitting but the

3462
02:02:34,447 --> 02:02:36,048
units closest to the parking

3463
02:02:36,048 --> 02:02:37,482
lot are going to be the ones

3464
02:02:37,482 --> 02:02:38,717
that are designed as barrier

3465
02:02:38,717 --> 02:02:40,118
free. So, to address exactly

3466
02:02:40,118 --> 02:02:42,888
the point you brought up, that

3467
02:02:42,888 --> 02:02:45,290
strategically, those ones will

3468
02:02:45,290 --> 02:02:46,825
be earmarked for individuals

3469
02:02:46,825 --> 02:02:50,463
with with higher mobility it's

3470
02:02:50,463 --> 02:02:51,163
not perfect. You know,

3471
02:02:51,163 --> 02:02:53,499
obviously, some, you know, the

3472
02:02:53,499 --> 02:02:55,233
one, the, you know, right next

3473
02:02:55,233 --> 02:02:56,835
to the parking lot is going to

3474
02:02:56,835 --> 02:02:58,537
be a little bit better than the

3475
02:02:58,537 --> 02:03:00,206
one two units down but as a

3476
02:03:00,206 --> 02:03:02,541
general strategy, we've

3477
02:03:02,541 --> 02:03:04,209
earmarked the closest units to

3478
02:03:04,209 --> 02:03:05,644
be the ones to serve people

3479
02:03:05,644 --> 02:03:10,382
with the highest needs.

3480
02:03:10,382 --> 02:03:14,753
Okay, so, phase two, you'll

3481
02:03:14,753 --> 02:03:16,121
look here is, is located. Go

3482
02:03:16,121 --> 02:03:16,922
ahead, just hold on. Sorry,

3483
02:03:16,922 --> 02:03:18,357
just while while you're talking

3484
02:03:18,357 --> 02:03:20,759
about that, I'm looking and I'm

3485
02:03:20,759 --> 02:03:23,462
zooming in as much as I can.

3486
02:03:23,462 --> 02:03:26,232
Um, so say for the houses that

3487
02:03:26,232 --> 02:03:27,299
are up top, I see the parking

3488
02:03:27,299 --> 02:03:28,767
lot here in this parking lot

3489
02:03:28,767 --> 02:03:31,203
there. If I'm delivering a

3490
02:03:31,203 --> 02:03:33,672
chair or something, is the car

3491
02:03:33,672 --> 02:03:34,974
able to pull up to any of those

3492
02:03:34,974 --> 02:03:37,476
houses? No. If there's, if

3493
02:03:37,476 --> 02:03:38,343
there's a chair being done,

3494
02:03:38,343 --> 02:03:39,344
they're they're going to have

3495
02:03:39,344 --> 02:03:40,746
to be walked in the same way

3496
02:03:40,746 --> 02:03:41,747
that you'd have to do if you

3497
02:03:41,747 --> 02:03:43,048
live in an apartment building

3498
02:03:43,048 --> 02:03:44,182
or something like that. You get

3499
02:03:44,182 --> 02:03:46,018
it as as close as possible, and

3500
02:03:46,018 --> 02:03:47,520
then, and then it'll have to be

3501
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:48,887
Shepherd in. Okay. No, I'm just

3502
02:03:48,887 --> 02:03:50,222
like a big grocery day or all

3503
02:03:50,222 --> 02:03:51,824
that kind of stuff. You're

3504
02:03:51,824 --> 02:03:52,758
never going to be able to pull

3505
02:03:52,758 --> 02:03:56,061
up your car. No. Again, because

3506
02:03:56,061 --> 02:03:57,162
there's also a factor that if

3507
02:03:57,162 --> 02:03:58,464
you're able to pull up your

3508
02:03:58,464 --> 02:04:00,132
car, then, people will, right?

3509
02:04:00,132 --> 02:04:03,969
So, in order to keep those

3510
02:04:03,969 --> 02:04:06,438
pathways walkable, we want to

3511
02:04:06,438 --> 02:04:07,973
make sure people don't take

3512
02:04:07,973 --> 02:04:09,375
their cars right up and they're

3513
02:04:09,375 --> 02:04:11,977
not really designed for regular

3514
02:04:11,977 --> 02:04:13,912
traffic use. Now, again, with

3515
02:04:13,912 --> 02:04:17,550
that said, we are working on a

3516
02:04:17,550 --> 02:04:20,218
couple of programs that we are

3517
02:04:20,218 --> 02:04:21,687
looking to integrate into our

3518
02:04:21,687 --> 02:04:23,722
service delivery that will

3519
02:04:23,722 --> 02:04:26,559
address things like like

3520
02:04:26,559 --> 02:04:27,726
carrying groceries from your

3521
02:04:27,726 --> 02:04:29,261
car for somebody that isn't

3522
02:04:29,261 --> 02:04:30,663
able to do that. But I that

3523
02:04:30,663 --> 02:04:33,231
hasn't been considered in the, site planning process.

3524
02:04:33,231 --> 02:04:34,767
Okay and I'm also thinking like

3525
02:04:34,767 --> 02:04:36,101
ambulance and all that kind of

3526
02:04:36,101 --> 02:04:37,636
stuff. So the ambulance meets

3527
02:04:37,636 --> 02:04:39,471
all the requirements for

3528
02:04:39,471 --> 02:04:40,339
Ontario Building Code as far as

3529
02:04:40,339 --> 02:04:42,508
getting close enough that

3530
02:04:42,508 --> 02:04:43,676
paramedics can can walk can

3531
02:04:43,676 --> 02:04:45,577
bring the a stretcher. For

3532
02:04:45,577 --> 02:04:48,247
instance in into the unit.

3533
02:04:48,247 --> 02:04:49,715
Right not the 50 meters though.

3534
02:04:49,715 --> 02:04:52,484
Like they could pull up someway

3535
02:04:52,484 --> 02:04:54,887
to they can get fairly close. I

3536
02:04:54,887 --> 02:04:55,621
know some of our guys are

3537
02:04:55,621 --> 02:05:00,692
creative but. yeah. Now, the pathways are have actually

3538
02:05:00,692 --> 02:05:02,127
geotechnically been designed

3539
02:05:02,127 --> 02:05:04,797
that they can be driven on. So,

3540
02:05:04,797 --> 02:05:07,533
in in an emergency. Okay. Yes.

3541
02:05:07,533 --> 02:05:08,634
So, you you would be able to

3542
02:05:08,634 --> 02:05:10,502
drive on them but as a general

3543
02:05:10,502 --> 02:05:12,871
rule, we don't want people, driving on the walking

3544
02:05:12,871 --> 02:05:21,280
paths.

3545
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:22,080
Okay, so you're looking at

3546
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:22,748
phase two here. It's it's quite

3547
02:05:22,748 --> 02:05:23,749
a similar type of layout to

3548
02:05:23,749 --> 02:05:26,352
phase one. Um there's a a few

3549
02:05:26,352 --> 02:05:27,886
more singles and if you'll

3550
02:05:27,886 --> 02:05:31,656
notice, along the eastern or or

3551
02:05:31,656 --> 02:05:33,058
left side of the of the drawing

3552
02:05:33,058 --> 02:05:35,394
here, those are all the single

3553
02:05:35,394 --> 02:05:36,328
units and they will actually be

3554
02:05:36,328 --> 02:05:38,130
the ones that will have

3555
02:05:38,130 --> 02:05:40,065
driveways with covered parking.

3556
02:05:40,065 --> 02:05:41,833
So, there are some on like ones

3557
02:05:41,833 --> 02:05:43,068
that front onto the street and

3558
02:05:43,068 --> 02:05:44,069
specifically the singles but

3559
02:05:44,069 --> 02:05:45,037
I'll show you an image of it

3560
02:05:45,037 --> 02:05:45,871
later in this presentation that

3561
02:05:45,871 --> 02:05:55,080
I'll I'll make that clear.

3562
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:55,680
So, some key stats for our

3563
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:56,949
project. Um what we're

3564
02:05:56,949 --> 02:05:57,649
proposing as part of this

3565
02:05:57,649 --> 02:05:58,784
current site plan application

3566
02:05:58,784 --> 02:06:01,753
is the first two of a ten-phase

3567
02:06:01,753 --> 02:06:05,157
development.

3568
02:06:05,157 --> 02:06:06,258
The reason we're doing it in

3569
02:06:06,258 --> 02:06:08,227
phases is, well, a variety of

3570
02:06:08,227 --> 02:06:11,263
reasons. It's prudent

3571
02:06:11,263 --> 02:06:13,499
financially to not try to build

3572
02:06:13,499 --> 02:06:17,536
700 houses in one shot and we

3573
02:06:17,536 --> 02:06:19,137
want but but additionally, we

3574
02:06:19,137 --> 02:06:23,676
want to be able to evaluate

3575
02:06:23,676 --> 02:06:25,511
whether the assumptions that we

3576
02:06:25,511 --> 02:06:27,279
made for housing type and

3577
02:06:27,279 --> 02:06:29,014
housing mix are accurate. You

3578
02:06:29,014 --> 02:06:30,015
know, we we've done some

3579
02:06:30,015 --> 02:06:31,817
demographic research. We have a

3580
02:06:31,817 --> 02:06:32,884
pretty good sense that we've

3581
02:06:32,884 --> 02:06:34,453
got it right. Uh we're really

3582
02:06:34,453 --> 02:06:38,023
going to know until folks start

3583
02:06:38,023 --> 02:06:39,158
moving in and start telling us

3584
02:06:39,158 --> 02:06:45,030
all the things we did wrong and really reevaluate what

3585
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:45,998
we're going to do for

3586
02:06:45,998 --> 02:06:48,534
subsequent phases. So, from a

3587
02:06:48,534 --> 02:06:50,736
company strategy standpoint, it

3588
02:06:50,736 --> 02:06:52,538
actually made a lot more sense

3589
02:06:52,538 --> 02:06:54,739
to start with two, prove that

3590
02:06:54,739 --> 02:06:56,875
we can do it, and that, you

3591
02:06:56,875 --> 02:06:58,510
know, really walk before we can

3592
02:06:58,510 --> 02:07:00,546
run and then, we'll have a lot

3593
02:07:00,546 --> 02:07:01,980
more data to be able to pull on

3594
02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:03,015
from subsequent phases to be

3595
02:07:03,015 --> 02:07:05,183
able to design phase 3 and

3596
02:07:05,183 --> 02:07:08,887
beyond. Uh phase one consists

3597
02:07:08,887 --> 02:07:11,490
of 57 units. Uh five singles,

3598
02:07:11,490 --> 02:07:14,026
16 semis, eighteen deluxe row

3599
02:07:14,026 --> 02:07:15,560
homes, and 18 standard row

3600
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:19,531
homes. Uh phase two, fifty-two

3601
02:07:19,531 --> 02:07:21,200
units that are eight singles,

3602
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:23,469
14 semis, twenty-four deluxe

3603
02:07:23,469 --> 02:07:26,037
rows, and 16 standard rows. So,

3604
02:07:26,037 --> 02:07:27,806
as you can see, like I was

3605
02:07:27,806 --> 02:07:29,274
saying before, we really did

3606
02:07:29,274 --> 02:07:31,343
focus on trying to put together

3607
02:07:31,343 --> 02:07:34,078
quite a even distribution of

3608
02:07:34,078 --> 02:07:42,454
unit types to be able to of all demographic types. Um

3609
02:07:42,454 --> 02:07:44,156
Building timing. Uh we're

3610
02:07:44,156 --> 02:07:46,458
anticipating building

3611
02:07:46,458 --> 02:07:47,559
permitting to take

3612
02:07:47,559 --> 02:07:48,360
approximately four to five

3613
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,563
months on the completion after

3614
02:07:51,563 --> 02:07:52,931
the completion of the site plan

3615
02:07:52,931 --> 02:07:55,601
approval. Uh which gets us

3616
02:07:55,601 --> 02:07:57,603
beginning construction in the

3617
02:07:57,603 --> 02:07:59,371
third quarter of this year.

3618
02:07:59,371 --> 02:08:01,707
Give or take. Um Jacob's

3619
02:08:01,707 --> 02:08:02,875
kicking me under the table over

3620
02:08:02,875 --> 02:08:05,476
here. But but that's that's the

3621
02:08:05,476 --> 02:08:08,146
timing we're looking at. So we plan on building this

3622
02:08:08,146 --> 02:08:10,549
summer. Uh we have all our

3623
02:08:10,549 --> 02:08:12,351
financing in place to be able

3624
02:08:12,351 --> 02:08:15,487
to do it. Um but the last stage

3625
02:08:15,487 --> 02:08:17,489
once once we do achieve site

3626
02:08:17,489 --> 02:08:20,058
plan approval is to go through

3627
02:08:20,058 --> 02:08:22,561
building permitting and then ultimately begin

3628
02:08:22,561 --> 02:08:24,630
servicing midway through the

3629
02:08:24,630 --> 02:08:29,902
summer. So, some key parts of

3630
02:08:29,902 --> 02:08:31,970
this project. There's a lot of

3631
02:08:31,970 --> 02:08:34,573
them. Sorry for all the text.

3632
02:08:34,573 --> 02:08:37,209
Um so, our main building

3633
02:08:37,209 --> 02:08:38,744
partner or our building partner

3634
02:08:38,744 --> 02:08:40,979
is Oakwood Homes out of Ottawa,

3635
02:08:40,979 --> 02:08:43,448
Ontario. Um I'm not sure if

3636
02:08:43,448 --> 02:08:45,150
anybody's is or isn't familiar

3637
02:08:45,150 --> 02:08:46,351
with them but they're one of

3638
02:08:46,351 --> 02:08:49,021
the one of the premium home

3639
02:08:49,021 --> 02:08:52,156
builders in Ottawa. Uh mostly a

3640
02:08:52,156 --> 02:08:53,659
custom home builder but they

3641
02:08:53,659 --> 02:08:56,929
are getting into the the larger

3642
02:08:56,929 --> 02:08:58,463
scale and we're really excited

3643
02:08:58,463 --> 02:09:02,568
because they actually bring a

3644
02:09:02,568 --> 02:09:03,435
bit of a different approach to

3645
02:09:03,435 --> 02:09:05,404
home building. They have a a

3646
02:09:05,404 --> 02:09:07,139
very strong tech backing. Um a

3647
02:09:07,139 --> 02:09:09,541
lot of their their systems that

3648
02:09:09,541 --> 02:09:11,977
are in place are are really

3649
02:09:11,977 --> 02:09:13,278
very unique in the home

3650
02:09:13,278 --> 02:09:13,912
building space. So we're

3651
02:09:13,912 --> 02:09:15,647
excited to have them as a

3652
02:09:15,647 --> 02:09:19,017
partner. Um all the all the

3653
02:09:19,017 --> 02:09:20,352
houses are being designed to a

3654
02:09:20,352 --> 02:09:22,120
standard called zero net carbon

3655
02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:24,990
housing. And that a new concept

3656
02:09:24,990 --> 02:09:26,724
for me too but I learned all

3657
02:09:26,724 --> 02:09:28,493
about it. So, what it means is

3658
02:09:28,493 --> 02:09:31,763
a combination of very

3659
02:09:31,763 --> 02:09:34,833
high-efficiency homes, energy

3660
02:09:34,833 --> 02:09:36,501
usages being a fraction of what

3661
02:09:36,501 --> 02:09:38,904
a code designed house would

3662
02:09:38,904 --> 02:09:42,541
have. Uh as well as low-carbon

3663
02:09:42,541 --> 02:09:44,910
source material for building

3664
02:09:44,910 --> 02:09:46,144
materials, everything from, you

3665
02:09:46,144 --> 02:09:47,446
know, what, you know, obviously

3666
02:09:47,446 --> 02:09:50,048
the wood but also, you know,

3667
02:09:50,048 --> 02:09:50,883
materials for your kitchen,

3668
02:09:50,883 --> 02:09:52,216
your bathroom, all that. It all

3669
02:09:52,216 --> 02:09:54,118
goes into a calculation of

3670
02:09:54,118 --> 02:09:56,054
minimizing the carbon footprint

3671
02:09:56,054 --> 02:09:58,757
the house. And ultimately there

3672
02:09:58,757 --> 02:10:00,258
is offsetting that is involved

3673
02:10:00,258 --> 02:10:01,994
in it as well. But basically

3674
02:10:01,994 --> 02:10:03,562
it's a it's a standard to try

3675
02:10:03,562 --> 02:10:06,598
to get that house to have as a

3676
02:10:06,598 --> 02:10:10,068
net zero carbon input impact on

3677
02:10:10,068 --> 02:10:11,603
the planet obviously to support

3678
02:10:11,603 --> 02:10:12,604
the fight against climate

3679
02:10:12,604 --> 02:10:17,142
change. Uh additionally we are

3680
02:10:17,142 --> 02:10:19,411
planning to build these homes

3681
02:10:19,411 --> 02:10:20,345
partially in support of what I

3682
02:10:20,345 --> 02:10:23,015
just said but also really to a

3683
02:10:23,015 --> 02:10:25,050
very very high quality of high

3684
02:10:25,050 --> 02:10:27,586
quality standard. Um we Don't

3685
02:10:27,586 --> 02:10:30,956
want these homes to feel cheap.

3686
02:10:30,956 --> 02:10:33,892
That is the number one reason

3687
02:10:33,892 --> 02:10:36,094
we're doing that. We want folks

3688
02:10:36,094 --> 02:10:38,463
that are living here to feel

3689
02:10:38,463 --> 02:10:41,566
proud of their houses, to feel

3690
02:10:41,566 --> 02:10:43,502
that they have something to

3691
02:10:43,502 --> 02:10:45,904
really show off. and

3692
02:10:45,904 --> 02:10:48,607
ultimately, you know, from a

3693
02:10:48,607 --> 02:10:50,909
selfish standpoint, higher

3694
02:10:50,909 --> 02:10:51,843
quality means we don't have as

3695
02:10:51,843 --> 02:10:53,946
much upkeep because if we use

3696
02:10:53,946 --> 02:10:55,614
better materials, if we use

3697
02:10:55,614 --> 02:10:56,949
better construction process,

3698
02:10:56,949 --> 02:10:58,984
the houses will last longer,

3699
02:10:58,984 --> 02:11:00,519
they'll look nicer for

3700
02:11:00,519 --> 02:11:02,087
significantly longer, and

3701
02:11:02,087 --> 02:11:03,021
ultimately, that high

3702
02:11:03,021 --> 02:11:04,756
efficiency that we're trying to

3703
02:11:04,756 --> 02:11:07,159
achieve, will remain in place

3704
02:11:07,159 --> 02:11:08,627
for longer. So, quality really

3705
02:11:08,627 --> 02:11:10,995
has a has a overall benefit to

3706
02:11:10,995 --> 02:11:13,664
everybody beyond just looking

3707
02:11:13,664 --> 02:11:16,234
nice. Additionally from a site

3708
02:11:16,234 --> 02:11:18,437
planning perspective, we

3709
02:11:18,437 --> 02:11:21,472
designed the stormwater system

3710
02:11:21,472 --> 02:11:23,041
under principles known as

3711
02:11:23,041 --> 02:11:25,410
low-impact development and I'm

3712
02:11:25,410 --> 02:11:29,648
not sure it's relatively new if so I'm not sure if

3713
02:11:29,648 --> 02:11:30,615
everybody's heard of it, but

3714
02:11:30,615 --> 02:11:34,987
basically what it is, it's, a principle of trying to

3715
02:11:34,987 --> 02:11:38,623
minimize runoff, and encourage

3716
02:11:38,623 --> 02:11:40,092
as much groundwater

3717
02:11:40,092 --> 02:11:42,627
reinfiltration as possible.

3718
02:11:42,627 --> 02:11:44,095
It's a big push in the city of

3719
02:11:44,095 --> 02:11:46,764
Ottawa right now, but it will

3720
02:11:46,764 --> 02:11:48,099
be rolling out across the

3721
02:11:48,099 --> 02:11:49,701
province, likely in a few

3722
02:11:49,701 --> 02:11:56,608
years, and it's

3723
02:11:56,608 --> 02:11:59,511
Point. It means that roadside

3724
02:11:59,511 --> 02:12:01,480
ditches don't don't have as

3725
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,281
much runoff coming from them

3726
02:12:03,281 --> 02:12:05,450
and natural systems, natural

3727
02:12:05,450 --> 02:12:06,351
groundwater systems get far

3728
02:12:06,351 --> 02:12:08,620
more recharged than they would

3729
02:12:08,620 --> 02:12:11,156
have got under a conventional

3730
02:12:11,156 --> 02:12:13,525
stone water pipe. Uh now, we've

3731
02:12:13,525 --> 02:12:15,527
designed this to be

3732
02:12:15,527 --> 02:12:18,263
conservative in the sense that

3733
02:12:18,263 --> 02:12:20,632
the pipes have been designed

3734
02:12:20,632 --> 02:12:23,168
such that they don't need

3735
02:12:23,168 --> 02:12:24,536
infiltration. So, there's there

3736
02:12:24,536 --> 02:12:25,670
are large their size large

3737
02:12:25,670 --> 02:12:27,272
enough that they can handle the

3738
02:12:27,272 --> 02:12:29,508
full capacity but we know that

3739
02:12:29,508 --> 02:12:30,208
there will be infiltration and

3740
02:12:30,208 --> 02:12:34,046
a perforated pipe So it's a double check imbalance.

3741
02:12:34,046 --> 02:12:36,381
We did the LEDs but we also in

3742
02:12:36,381 --> 02:12:37,949
size the systems large enough

3743
02:12:37,949 --> 02:12:40,619
that if for whatever reason it

3744
02:12:40,619 --> 02:12:42,019
doesn't work, it's still large

3745
02:12:42,019 --> 02:12:43,388
enough and there's no issues

3746
02:12:43,388 --> 02:12:44,623
with with flooding downstream

3747
02:12:44,623 --> 02:12:47,492
or within the development.

3748
02:12:47,492 --> 02:12:50,028
We've made a big focus on

3749
02:12:50,028 --> 02:12:52,464
native tree species and native

3750
02:12:52,464 --> 02:12:55,567
vegetation. Uh this was my

3751
02:12:55,567 --> 02:12:57,802
second opportunity to work with

3752
02:12:57,802 --> 02:12:59,671
a landscape architect And very

3753
02:12:59,671 --> 02:13:03,275
fascinating people and when we

3754
02:13:03,275 --> 02:13:04,876
came to this, when we brought

3755
02:13:04,876 --> 02:13:07,479
them to the site, they were

3756
02:13:07,479 --> 02:13:09,281
pretty blown away with the

3757
02:13:09,281 --> 02:13:12,617
amount of opportunity there was

3758
02:13:12,617 --> 02:13:16,621
on the site to salvage trees,

3759
02:13:16,621 --> 02:13:19,024
to relocate trees, and really

3760
02:13:19,024 --> 02:13:20,992
try to conserve as much of the

3761
02:13:20,992 --> 02:13:22,928
salvageable vegetation as we

3762
02:13:22,928 --> 02:13:25,964
can. Um through a variety of of

3763
02:13:25,964 --> 02:13:28,900
means. Uh number one, planning

3764
02:13:28,900 --> 02:13:30,035
the site planning

3765
02:13:30,035 --> 02:13:31,069
appropriately. Now,

3766
02:13:31,069 --> 02:13:33,004
unfortunately, there's not in

3767
02:13:33,004 --> 02:13:35,140
within phase one and two,

3768
02:13:35,140 --> 02:13:36,040
there's actually not that much

3769
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:36,975
of vegetation. So, this is

3770
02:13:36,975 --> 02:13:39,811
really more for for latter

3771
02:13:39,811 --> 02:13:41,913
phases Um but where we can,

3772
02:13:41,913 --> 02:13:43,415
we're going to be transplanting

3773
02:13:43,415 --> 02:13:44,983
trees and relocating them into

3774
02:13:44,983 --> 02:13:47,552
a nursery that we are going to

3775
02:13:47,552 --> 02:13:50,087
be putting in place on parts of

3776
02:13:50,087 --> 02:13:51,455
the site that we haven't

3777
02:13:51,455 --> 02:13:53,058
developed yet. And again, this

3778
02:13:53,058 --> 02:13:55,160
is not just because we want to

3779
02:13:55,160 --> 02:13:57,028
pat ourselves on the back from

3780
02:13:57,028 --> 02:13:59,297
an environmental standpoint.

3781
02:13:59,297 --> 02:14:01,032
Yes, we we we do find it

3782
02:14:01,032 --> 02:14:01,732
valuable and we want to

3783
02:14:01,732 --> 02:14:03,168
encourage tree growth but the

3784
02:14:03,168 --> 02:14:05,137
way we also see it is is it's

3785
02:14:05,137 --> 02:14:07,405
an opportunity to make use of

3786
02:14:07,405 --> 02:14:09,975
lands that we have aren't quite

3787
02:14:09,975 --> 02:14:12,611
ready to develop By growing

3788
02:14:12,611 --> 02:14:15,280
native species to ewes on our

3789
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:17,149
site. So it's an opportunity to

3790
02:14:17,149 --> 02:14:20,318
foster tree growth and also

3791
02:14:20,318 --> 02:14:21,987
conserve trees that are already

3792
02:14:21,987 --> 02:14:25,157
there while also allowing them

3793
02:14:25,157 --> 02:14:27,692
to grow in the you know five

3794
02:14:27,692 --> 02:14:28,994
years that it takes that before

3795
02:14:28,994 --> 02:14:32,997
we actually need them. So we're quite proud of that. And right now that's being year

3796
02:14:32,997 --> 02:14:35,700
marked for the western portion

3797
02:14:35,700 --> 02:14:38,603
of the site. Um for this for

3798
02:14:38,603 --> 02:14:42,040
this interim nursery.

3799
02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:44,442
Additionally, through a

3800
02:14:44,442 --> 02:14:46,077
partnership with a company out

3801
02:14:46,077 --> 02:14:48,446
of Europe, we are planning

3802
02:14:48,446 --> 02:14:49,414
what's called the district

3803
02:14:49,414 --> 02:14:54,986
heating and cooling system for houses within the village.

3804
02:14:54,986 --> 02:14:56,754
What does that mean? Most

3805
02:14:56,754 --> 02:14:58,423
people are fairly familiar with

3806
02:14:58,423 --> 02:15:00,458
ground source heat pumps.

3807
02:15:00,458 --> 02:15:01,426
They're they're starting to

3808
02:15:01,426 --> 02:15:03,527
come into into fashion and you

3809
02:15:03,527 --> 02:15:05,363
know, I'll probably have a

3810
02:15:05,363 --> 02:15:06,565
friend who has one of those in

3811
02:15:06,565 --> 02:15:10,535
their houses. similar principle

3812
02:15:10,535 --> 02:15:12,237
except rather than being done

3813
02:15:12,237 --> 02:15:14,606
for an individual unit. It's

3814
02:15:14,606 --> 02:15:16,007
being done for a block of

3815
02:15:16,007 --> 02:15:18,410
units. Approximately 25 to 30

3816
02:15:18,410 --> 02:15:20,077
units will be run off a larger

3817
02:15:20,077 --> 02:15:22,881
heat pump that circulates hot

3818
02:15:22,881 --> 02:15:26,618
and cold. Uh it's a grind. Um

3819
02:15:26,618 --> 02:15:27,919
within a circulatory system

3820
02:15:27,919 --> 02:15:29,287
that is used to heat the

3821
02:15:29,287 --> 02:15:31,423
houses. There's couple reasons

3822
02:15:31,423 --> 02:15:34,559
we're doing that. Number one,

3823
02:15:34,559 --> 02:15:36,094
it's very efficient. Most

3824
02:15:36,094 --> 02:15:37,696
efficient way to heat and cool

3825
02:15:37,696 --> 02:15:39,431
a home is through ground source

3826
02:15:39,431 --> 02:15:40,231
heat pumps. That's why people

3827
02:15:40,231 --> 02:15:42,667
do them in their houses. Number

3828
02:15:42,667 --> 02:15:44,903
two, by looking at a district

3829
02:15:44,903 --> 02:15:47,372
system as opposed to individual

3830
02:15:47,372 --> 02:15:49,274
units. Uh number one, our

3831
02:15:49,274 --> 02:15:50,375
there's a lot less

3832
02:15:50,375 --> 02:15:52,877
infrastructure. Uh within a a

3833
02:15:52,877 --> 02:15:54,512
fairly dense neighborhood.

3834
02:15:54,512 --> 02:15:56,580
Well, we also get economies of

3835
02:15:56,580 --> 02:15:58,617
scale. You know, by buying

3836
02:15:58,617 --> 02:16:00,952
larger heat pump systems and

3837
02:16:00,952 --> 02:16:02,887
servicing a larger number of

3838
02:16:02,887 --> 02:16:05,022
units with that system, The

3839
02:16:05,022 --> 02:16:08,627
cost per unit dramatically

3840
02:16:08,627 --> 02:16:11,997
drops. So, in support of lower

3841
02:16:11,997 --> 02:16:14,199
the overall opera development

3842
02:16:14,199 --> 02:16:16,968
and operating cost of our

3843
02:16:16,968 --> 02:16:18,870
units. We spread that out over

3844
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:20,238
a larger number of units and we

3845
02:16:20,238 --> 02:16:22,107
can actually translate that

3846
02:16:22,107 --> 02:16:24,208
into lower cost. To our

3847
02:16:24,208 --> 02:16:26,144
individual to to our residents.

3848
02:16:26,144 --> 02:16:27,612
So I'm we're quite proud of it

3849
02:16:27,612 --> 02:16:31,483
and that from what I can tell

3850
02:16:31,483 --> 02:16:32,917
might be a first in Canada.

3851
02:16:32,917 --> 02:16:34,753
Because I looked and I I

3852
02:16:34,753 --> 02:16:36,153
haven't seen any other examples

3853
02:16:36,153 --> 02:16:38,456
of this being done. But we have

3854
02:16:38,456 --> 02:16:40,091
the technical backing systems

3855
02:16:40,091 --> 02:16:43,862
basically already and and

3856
02:16:43,862 --> 02:16:45,563
that's how we intend to to do

3857
02:16:45,563 --> 02:16:47,165
this. I'm I'm quite proud of

3858
02:16:47,165 --> 02:16:49,700
it. Phase one and two are going

3859
02:16:49,700 --> 02:16:52,069
to be conventionally built By

3860
02:16:52,069 --> 02:16:54,606
that, I mean, framers on site,

3861
02:16:54,606 --> 02:16:56,007
tradespeople coming in, and

3862
02:16:56,007 --> 02:16:57,742
building a house as the way

3863
02:16:57,742 --> 02:16:59,277
most people would know how to

3864
02:16:59,277 --> 02:17:02,213
build a house. Base three and

3865
02:17:02,213 --> 02:17:03,682
beyond are going to be a little

3866
02:17:03,682 --> 02:17:07,152
bit different. Uh face, latter

3867
02:17:07,152 --> 02:17:08,453
phases through our partnership

3868
02:17:08,453 --> 02:17:11,155
with Oakwood Homes are going to

3869
02:17:11,155 --> 02:17:14,059
be primarily built offsite.

3870
02:17:14,059 --> 02:17:15,827
They are in the process of

3871
02:17:15,827 --> 02:17:18,029
finishing construction on a

3872
02:17:18,029 --> 02:17:19,297
state-of-the-art manufacturing

3873
02:17:19,297 --> 02:17:23,167
facility that will essentially

3874
02:17:23,167 --> 02:17:24,736
use robotic technology to put

3875
02:17:24,736 --> 02:17:27,038
together 80 to 90% of a house

3876
02:17:27,038 --> 02:17:29,007
offsite and then it's shipped

3877
02:17:29,007 --> 02:17:30,208
in and stitched together with a

3878
02:17:30,208 --> 02:17:32,443
they call it a stitch crew on

3879
02:17:32,443 --> 02:17:38,983
the site that has a couple of benefits. Number one,

3880
02:17:38,983 --> 02:17:40,618
quality control within a

3881
02:17:40,618 --> 02:17:41,986
manufacturing process is

3882
02:17:41,986 --> 02:17:43,154
significantly better than, you

3883
02:17:43,154 --> 02:17:44,389
know, when you're out in the

3884
02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:46,624
field and trades are coming and

3885
02:17:46,624 --> 02:17:51,062
going and so your your QAQC is significantly better. Cost

3886
02:17:51,062 --> 02:17:55,700
production actually goes quite a bit lower like it would

3887
02:17:55,700 --> 02:17:57,936
with any other large

3888
02:17:57,936 --> 02:17:59,471
manufacturing process. So, we

3889
02:17:59,471 --> 02:18:01,506
can actually build the homes

3890
02:18:01,506 --> 02:18:04,642
for cheaper than somebody else

3891
02:18:04,642 --> 02:18:05,543
would be able to do

3892
02:18:05,543 --> 02:18:06,344
conventionally building it

3893
02:18:06,344 --> 02:18:07,511
while still maintaining the

3894
02:18:07,511 --> 02:18:10,048
same spec. Again, this is all

3895
02:18:10,048 --> 02:18:11,682
in the theme of trying to lower

3896
02:18:11,682 --> 02:18:14,052
our cost to build, to be able

3897
02:18:14,052 --> 02:18:16,620
to drive that affordability, to

3898
02:18:16,620 --> 02:18:19,290
our residents. So, that's

3899
02:18:19,290 --> 02:18:21,493
really, really exciting.

3900
02:18:21,493 --> 02:18:23,561
They're slotted to finish their

3901
02:18:23,561 --> 02:18:26,965
plant in Q 4 2023. So that's

3902
02:18:26,965 --> 02:18:28,533
why I'm saying it it will

3903
02:18:28,533 --> 02:18:30,134
likely be phase three before we

3904
02:18:30,134 --> 02:18:36,341
actually start using these offside house I already

3905
02:18:36,341 --> 02:18:37,776
addressed barrier-free

3906
02:18:37,776 --> 02:18:40,044
accommodations but just to

3907
02:18:40,044 --> 02:18:44,082
reiterate it, we are providing

3908
02:18:44,082 --> 02:18:44,982
accommodations and I'll and

3909
02:18:44,982 --> 02:18:47,418
I'll show in some of the floor plans a little bit later.

3910
02:18:47,418 --> 02:18:49,487
Uh barrier-free access for

3911
02:18:49,487 --> 02:18:51,289
people within in wheelchairs

3912
02:18:51,289 --> 02:18:53,725
and with with other mobility

3913
02:18:53,725 --> 02:18:56,227
issues. Additionally, hold on

3914
02:18:56,227 --> 02:18:57,796
now, Will. Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry.

3915
02:18:57,796 --> 02:19:00,231
Go ahead. Just so, just so that

3916
02:19:00,231 --> 02:19:01,332
I don't forget because

3917
02:19:01,332 --> 02:19:03,168
otherwise, if I leave it, I'll

3918
02:19:03,168 --> 02:19:06,604
the with I noticed the plans

3919
02:19:06,604 --> 02:19:10,408
that many of these units have

3920
02:19:10,408 --> 02:19:13,477
in between one and six steps to

3921
02:19:13,477 --> 02:19:18,082
get into the unit. Um it's

3922
02:19:18,082 --> 02:19:19,951
which I I'm not sure why that

3923
02:19:19,951 --> 02:19:21,352
is. I'm assuming maybe it's the

3924
02:19:21,352 --> 02:19:23,555
grade of the the land or what

3925
02:19:23,555 --> 02:19:27,158
but it that you know people who

3926
02:19:27,158 --> 02:19:29,994
have mobility issues use canes,

3927
02:19:29,994 --> 02:19:31,495
walkers. Yeah we're going to be

3928
02:19:31,495 --> 02:19:33,698
utilizing ramps in a lot in a

3929
02:19:33,698 --> 02:19:35,600
lot of the barrier free cases.

3930
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:37,168
Yeah so part of our

3931
02:19:37,168 --> 02:19:39,137
architecture group is in those

3932
02:19:39,137 --> 02:19:40,738
barrier free units. Obviously

3933
02:19:40,738 --> 02:19:41,840
something with a six step.

3934
02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:43,408
Probably won't be one of the

3935
02:19:43,408 --> 02:19:44,742
barrier for units. Right? But

3936
02:19:44,742 --> 02:19:47,145
on the the lower step up ones

3937
02:19:47,145 --> 02:19:48,446
we're going to solve that issue

3938
02:19:48,446 --> 02:19:50,515
by by ramping. Which has been a

3939
02:19:50,515 --> 02:19:52,450
honestly, it's been a a

3940
02:19:52,450 --> 02:19:54,085
trade-off challenge in in this

3941
02:19:54,085 --> 02:19:57,956
design 'cuz you're balancing

3942
02:19:57,956 --> 02:20:00,024
you know, I, it would be, I

3943
02:20:00,024 --> 02:20:01,893
great if everything was flat.

3944
02:20:01,893 --> 02:20:04,062
You're balancing that with

3945
02:20:04,062 --> 02:20:04,629
particularly stormwater

3946
02:20:04,629 --> 02:20:06,965
management issues of trying to

3947
02:20:06,965 --> 02:20:09,033
bring up the areas in to make

3948
02:20:09,033 --> 02:20:10,134
sure that nobody's house

3949
02:20:10,134 --> 02:20:13,972
floods. So, in the locations

3950
02:20:13,972 --> 02:20:17,141
that we can, ramping will be

3951
02:20:17,141 --> 02:20:18,943
used to, to be able to provide

3952
02:20:18,943 --> 02:20:21,546
that barrier-free access to a

3953
02:20:21,546 --> 02:20:24,449
resident in a wheelchair. Okay,

3954
02:20:24,449 --> 02:20:26,084
it's just, you know, given that

3955
02:20:26,084 --> 02:20:29,153
it is a seniors you know, built

3956
02:20:29,153 --> 02:20:31,556
for seniors. I'm not a senior.

3957
02:20:31,556 --> 02:20:33,424
I have four steps to go into my

3958
02:20:33,424 --> 02:20:35,159
house and it's four steps too

3959
02:20:35,159 --> 02:20:39,297
many. Already. So so you know

3960
02:20:39,297 --> 02:20:40,765
I'm not the only one who'd be

3961
02:20:40,765 --> 02:20:43,000
thinking that. Totally. Yeah. I

3962
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:46,204
got so much to say. Just let it

3963
02:20:46,204 --> 02:20:47,538
go. Let it go. Go ahead. Thank

3964
02:20:47,538 --> 02:20:51,276
you. No. Yeah. No. It's it's a

3965
02:20:51,276 --> 02:20:52,443
unique it's a unique challenge.

3966
02:20:52,443 --> 02:20:55,547
Trust me. And that's why

3967
02:20:55,547 --> 02:20:57,415
sometimes I think especially in

3968
02:20:57,415 --> 02:20:59,283
the engineering side when we

3969
02:20:59,283 --> 02:21:00,618
come back to our architects and

3970
02:21:00,618 --> 02:21:01,686
say we gotta raise it and they

3971
02:21:01,686 --> 02:21:04,389
go what do you mean? You gotta

3972
02:21:04,389 --> 02:21:06,791
It's it. But Joanne, you have a

3973
02:21:06,791 --> 02:21:12,163
question? appreciate it.

3974
02:21:12,163 --> 02:21:13,064
So it's

3975
02:21:13,064 --> 02:21:13,765
I know we're talking

3976
02:21:13,765 --> 02:21:15,299
about seniors but we also want

3977
02:21:15,299 --> 02:21:17,534
to believe that there are a lot

3978
02:21:17,534 --> 02:21:19,270
of seniors who age in a healthy

3979
02:21:19,270 --> 02:21:20,838
way. And you know exactly who

3980
02:21:20,838 --> 02:21:22,440
I'm referring to. What I'm

3981
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:23,942
saying. It's my mother's

3982
02:21:23,942 --> 02:21:24,975
ninety-five living in her own

3983
02:21:24,975 --> 02:21:26,911
home with eight steps. So I'm

3984
02:21:26,911 --> 02:21:29,280
glad to see you have a variety

3985
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:30,982
of accommodations so that you

3986
02:21:30,982 --> 02:21:32,984
can meet the needs of the

3987
02:21:32,984 --> 02:21:33,918
seniors that choose to live in

3988
02:21:33,918 --> 02:21:34,919
that particular unit. It looks

3989
02:21:34,919 --> 02:21:36,487
like you're addressing the

3990
02:21:36,487 --> 02:21:37,454
different levels of you know

3991
02:21:37,454 --> 02:21:38,723
and it's interesting you say

3992
02:21:38,723 --> 02:21:39,590
that. Um and you know we're go

3993
02:21:39,590 --> 02:21:43,294
back to us. It's been a bit of

3994
02:21:43,294 --> 02:21:44,762
a journey. You know, when I

3995
02:21:44,762 --> 02:21:47,298
first was working on this, that

3996
02:21:47,298 --> 02:21:48,566
was a, that was a key question,

3997
02:21:48,566 --> 02:21:50,568
you know, and it was in my head

3998
02:21:50,568 --> 02:21:52,236
and maybe this is the ignorance

3999
02:21:52,236 --> 02:21:55,039
of youth, but I was like, okay,

4000
02:21:55,039 --> 02:21:56,540
well, they should all be my

4001
02:21:56,540 --> 02:21:58,610
barrier free. And when we

4002
02:21:58,610 --> 02:22:01,512
started talking to folks and

4003
02:22:01,512 --> 02:22:03,147
you know, I, I don't know, if

4004
02:22:03,147 --> 02:22:04,615
anybody in this room attended

4005
02:22:04,615 --> 02:22:06,517
some of the focus groups, but

4006
02:22:06,517 --> 02:22:08,052
what, the point you just made

4007
02:22:08,052 --> 02:22:09,287
was exactly the feedback we

4008
02:22:09,287 --> 02:22:12,223
got, is, I, you know, people

4009
02:22:12,223 --> 02:22:13,824
would say, I don't want to feel

4010
02:22:13,824 --> 02:22:17,495
like I'm living in a exactly,

4011
02:22:17,495 --> 02:22:19,296
and, you know, when I'm ready

4012
02:22:19,296 --> 02:22:22,634
to be there, okay, but today,

4013
02:22:22,634 --> 02:22:24,035
no, thank you. You know, and

4014
02:22:24,035 --> 02:22:25,536
there's even, you know, there's

4015
02:22:25,536 --> 02:22:26,604
even other details within the

4016
02:22:26,604 --> 02:22:27,538
units, particularly when you

4017
02:22:27,538 --> 02:22:29,606
get into the bathroom. Um, a

4018
02:22:29,606 --> 02:22:32,910
fully barrier-free bathroom, is

4019
02:22:32,910 --> 02:22:34,612
sometimes not a, all that

4020
02:22:34,612 --> 02:22:35,413
appealing to somebody who

4021
02:22:35,413 --> 02:22:37,548
doesn't need it, right? So,

4022
02:22:37,548 --> 02:22:39,417
that's why really, providing a

4023
02:22:39,417 --> 02:22:45,523
variety of auctions really was the right answer. Some more

4024
02:22:45,523 --> 02:22:48,025
challenging answer, but that

4025
02:22:48,025 --> 02:22:49,494
was the way we ended up going.

4026
02:22:49,494 --> 02:22:51,062
Now, with that said, you

4027
02:22:51,062 --> 02:22:52,630
allowed me to segway really

4028
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:55,033
nicely into my my points here.

4029
02:22:55,033 --> 02:22:57,702
Um, within the units

4030
02:22:57,702 --> 02:22:59,137
themselves, we're actually

4031
02:22:59,137 --> 02:23:01,539
putting in additional

4032
02:23:01,539 --> 02:23:03,074
infrastructure to be able to

4033
02:23:03,074 --> 02:23:05,009
allow people to age in place.

4034
02:23:05,009 --> 02:23:06,010
So, this has been a big theme

4035
02:23:06,010 --> 02:23:07,578
of this, of this project really

4036
02:23:07,578 --> 02:23:09,647
from the start. You know, I

4037
02:23:09,647 --> 02:23:10,615
would consider it a win. If

4038
02:23:10,615 --> 02:23:14,018
somebody in the same unit for

4039
02:23:14,018 --> 02:23:16,220
15 years and that unit can be

4040
02:23:16,220 --> 02:23:19,691
changed altered, with a

4041
02:23:19,691 --> 02:23:21,125
relatively minimal amount of

4042
02:23:21,125 --> 02:23:23,961
work. Um as that person ages.

4043
02:23:23,961 --> 02:23:26,397
So, just as an example, grab

4044
02:23:26,397 --> 02:23:29,032
bars in the in the tub. You

4045
02:23:29,032 --> 02:23:30,601
know, some people need them,

4046
02:23:30,601 --> 02:23:32,170
some people don't. Uh well,

4047
02:23:32,170 --> 02:23:34,005
what we're planning on doing is

4048
02:23:34,005 --> 02:23:35,873
within the bathroom setting,

4049
02:23:35,873 --> 02:23:37,208
we're actually putting in the

4050
02:23:37,208 --> 02:23:38,743
blocking and the backing behind

4051
02:23:38,743 --> 02:23:40,110
that bathroom wall. Whether or

4052
02:23:40,110 --> 02:23:44,015
not somebody needs a grab bar

4053
02:23:44,015 --> 02:23:45,516
or not. So, the idea is that

4054
02:23:45,516 --> 02:23:48,052
when if and when somebody needs

4055
02:23:48,052 --> 02:23:49,720
that grabbar, you don't no

4056
02:23:49,720 --> 02:23:51,489
longer need to remove that

4057
02:23:51,489 --> 02:23:52,223
bathroom wall to put in the

4058
02:23:52,223 --> 02:23:53,824
appropriate infrastructure back

4059
02:23:53,824 --> 02:23:55,493
there to be able to install it.

4060
02:23:55,493 --> 02:23:58,930
It's already there. roofs above

4061
02:23:58,930 --> 02:24:01,032
the bed. Not everybody needs

4062
02:24:01,032 --> 02:24:03,167
bed lifts but some people do.

4063
02:24:03,167 --> 02:24:04,535
So, for the sake of putting in

4064
02:24:04,535 --> 02:24:06,003
a little bit of extra

4065
02:24:06,003 --> 02:24:07,405
reinforcement on that ceiling,

4066
02:24:07,405 --> 02:24:11,042
on day one, when somebody needs

4067
02:24:11,042 --> 02:24:12,877
that that bed lift or if and

4068
02:24:12,877 --> 02:24:14,111
when somebody needs that bed

4069
02:24:14,111 --> 02:24:15,379
lift, you don't have to do a

4070
02:24:15,379 --> 02:24:16,814
full retrofit on that roof. You

4071
02:24:16,814 --> 02:24:17,414
just screw it in and it's

4072
02:24:17,414 --> 02:24:19,483
already waiting. So, there's a

4073
02:24:19,483 --> 02:24:21,986
lot of little tricks and again,

4074
02:24:21,986 --> 02:24:23,421
I'll give a lot of credit to

4075
02:24:23,421 --> 02:24:25,923
our our architectural team that

4076
02:24:25,923 --> 02:24:28,626
we're working on to really

4077
02:24:28,626 --> 02:24:30,161
foster that sense that some

4078
02:24:30,161 --> 02:24:31,395
that this is somebody's home

4079
02:24:31,395 --> 02:24:33,997
and it will be some home for

4080
02:24:33,997 --> 02:24:36,467
the long haul as their needs

4081
02:24:36,467 --> 02:24:39,904
change. And we talked a lot

4082
02:24:39,904 --> 02:24:42,006
earlier in this process about

4083
02:24:42,006 --> 02:24:42,874
healthcare monitoring

4084
02:24:42,874 --> 02:24:44,609
technology and that's that

4085
02:24:44,609 --> 02:24:45,509
hasn't gone anywhere. It's just

4086
02:24:45,509 --> 02:24:48,078
as you can see we we added a

4087
02:24:48,078 --> 02:24:53,151
lot to the table.

4088
02:24:53,151 --> 02:24:54,452
That will be, that will be

4089
02:24:54,452 --> 02:24:56,053
installed in every unit,

4090
02:24:56,053 --> 02:24:57,154
however, we fully understand

4091
02:24:57,154 --> 02:24:58,556
and appreciate that not

4092
02:24:58,556 --> 02:24:59,723
everybody is going to need that

4093
02:24:59,723 --> 02:25:02,560
or want that. So, optional

4094
02:25:02,560 --> 02:25:05,096
healthcare monitoring and

4095
02:25:05,096 --> 02:25:06,464
customized to every person's

4096
02:25:06,464 --> 02:25:08,366
individual needs will be

4097
02:25:08,366 --> 02:25:10,167
available within the units and

4098
02:25:10,167 --> 02:25:11,969
again, this is really to try to

4099
02:25:11,969 --> 02:25:15,940
leverage technology to allow

4100
02:25:15,940 --> 02:25:18,042
people to remain independent

4101
02:25:18,042 --> 02:25:21,946
and I guess independent's the

4102
02:25:21,946 --> 02:25:24,081
right word. For as long as

4103
02:25:24,081 --> 02:25:26,750
possible while still being able

4104
02:25:26,750 --> 02:25:28,619
to primarily provide comfort to

4105
02:25:28,619 --> 02:25:30,888
their loved ones that they are

4106
02:25:30,888 --> 02:25:32,122
capable of doing that, you

4107
02:25:32,122 --> 02:25:34,992
know, as as needs change.

4108
02:25:34,992 --> 02:25:36,059
There's a lot of technology out

4109
02:25:36,059 --> 02:25:38,896
there for for aging individuals

4110
02:25:38,896 --> 02:25:40,631
as you can probably imagine.

4111
02:25:40,631 --> 02:25:43,301
Um, I'm quite, I feel quite

4112
02:25:43,301 --> 02:25:44,769
fortunate in the sense that one

4113
02:25:44,769 --> 02:25:46,470
of our partner companies works

4114
02:25:46,470 --> 02:25:48,605
directly in this space and the

4115
02:25:48,605 --> 02:25:50,508
suite that we're putting

4116
02:25:50,508 --> 02:25:51,275
forward, not that everybody's

4117
02:25:51,275 --> 02:25:52,343
going to use every aspect of

4118
02:25:52,343 --> 02:25:54,946
it, is going to be is quite

4119
02:25:54,946 --> 02:25:57,281
impressive. Councillor Madden

4120
02:25:57,281 --> 02:26:00,751
you had a question? Will, just

4121
02:26:00,751 --> 02:26:01,919
before we get off this slide,

4122
02:26:01,919 --> 02:26:02,753
go back to your heating and

4123
02:26:02,753 --> 02:26:05,155
cooling. Um the centralized

4124
02:26:05,155 --> 02:26:06,891
idea of it, this is, this is

4125
02:26:06,891 --> 02:26:08,492
coming to us as a site plan,

4126
02:26:08,492 --> 02:26:09,994
those architectural drawings,

4127
02:26:09,994 --> 02:26:10,895
those, that's what's going to

4128
02:26:10,895 --> 02:26:12,763
become the site plan. I'm just

4129
02:26:12,763 --> 02:26:13,698
curious where the buildings are

4130
02:26:13,698 --> 02:26:14,765
for phase one and two because

4131
02:26:14,765 --> 02:26:15,700
they're not on there that I

4132
02:26:15,700 --> 02:26:16,900
saw. The buildings, the their

4133
02:26:16,900 --> 02:26:18,069
little house, they're little

4134
02:26:18,069 --> 02:26:19,670
huts and that we're we're

4135
02:26:19,670 --> 02:26:21,271
planning on on including that

4136
02:26:21,271 --> 02:26:23,574
prior to the building like

4137
02:26:23,574 --> 02:26:24,609
within the building permit

4138
02:26:24,609 --> 02:26:27,078
application as a as a building

4139
02:26:27,078 --> 02:26:30,080
system. So, prior to we will be

4140
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:31,282
including it but the they're

4141
02:26:31,282 --> 02:26:35,419
not very big. Okay. And the the huts themselves are only

4142
02:26:35,419 --> 02:26:36,387
about ten by ten. So they don't

4143
02:26:36,387 --> 02:26:37,288
take up a ton of room. We

4144
02:26:37,288 --> 02:26:38,489
didn't include them in the site

4145
02:26:38,489 --> 02:26:40,124
planning because they have no

4146
02:26:40,124 --> 02:26:41,859
servicing. Um and we haven't

4147
02:26:41,859 --> 02:26:43,561
finalized the exact location on

4148
02:26:43,561 --> 02:26:44,995
them yet. Okay. But it will be

4149
02:26:44,995 --> 02:26:46,363
included as part of the as part

4150
02:26:46,363 --> 02:26:47,831
of the building program. Okay

4151
02:26:47,831 --> 02:26:49,433
so like the other at some of

4152
02:26:49,433 --> 02:26:50,935
the the ends of some of the

4153
02:26:50,935 --> 02:26:51,535
parking roads you've got

4154
02:26:51,535 --> 02:26:53,905
electrical, mechanical, little

4155
02:26:53,905 --> 02:26:54,972
structures. Would it be similar

4156
02:26:54,972 --> 02:26:57,274
to that? Exactly. Okay. And.

4157
02:26:57,274 --> 02:27:00,010
Sorry. Sorry I was to follow on

4158
02:27:00,010 --> 02:27:01,479
that sort of lines presumably

4159
02:27:01,479 --> 02:27:02,746
because I noticed in your

4160
02:27:02,746 --> 02:27:04,214
legend you had HC heating

4161
02:27:04,214 --> 02:27:05,683
cooling lines but there weren't

4162
02:27:05,683 --> 02:27:06,617
any on the drying. So

4163
02:27:06,617 --> 02:27:07,184
presumably those would be.

4164
02:27:07,184 --> 02:27:08,218
on there as

4165
02:27:08,218 --> 02:27:10,388
well. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

4166
02:27:10,388 --> 02:27:12,056
Councilor Manley. And just on

4167
02:27:12,056 --> 02:27:13,724
while we're on the the ground

4168
02:27:13,724 --> 02:27:15,959
source heating and cooling. Is

4169
02:27:15,959 --> 02:27:18,029
it a closed loop system then? A

4170
02:27:18,029 --> 02:27:19,296
horizontal closed loop? Is that

4171
02:27:19,296 --> 02:27:20,764
what it is? Loop system. Yeah.

4172
02:27:20,764 --> 02:27:24,068
Very.

4173
02:27:24,068 --> 02:27:25,436
There's, you know, anyway,

4174
02:27:25,436 --> 02:27:26,737
maybe I'll give you the full

4175
02:27:26,737 --> 02:27:28,339
rundown of the presentation but

4176
02:27:28,339 --> 02:27:29,606
yeah, there's a combination of

4177
02:27:29,606 --> 02:27:31,909
a of a horizontal loop and and

4178
02:27:31,909 --> 02:27:33,811
a deep deep well as well but

4179
02:27:33,811 --> 02:27:36,047
anyway, I'll I'll I'll say it's

4180
02:27:36,047 --> 02:27:41,485
a long conversation.

4181
02:27:41,485 --> 02:27:43,154
Too far now. Okay, so we're

4182
02:27:43,154 --> 02:27:46,958
looking at an aerial image of

4183
02:27:46,958 --> 02:27:49,893
Phase one and two looking from

4184
02:27:49,893 --> 02:27:52,229
the south. Now, before

4185
02:27:52,229 --> 02:27:53,564
everybody asks me why are all

4186
02:27:53,564 --> 02:27:57,001
the units black and grey? Um

4187
02:27:57,001 --> 02:27:58,970
they won't be. Uh this is just

4188
02:27:58,970 --> 02:28:01,405
a a blocking color that's

4189
02:28:01,405 --> 02:28:02,974
standard from the architects.

4190
02:28:02,974 --> 02:28:05,443
The actual units themselves

4191
02:28:05,443 --> 02:28:06,877
will be will be quite a bit

4192
02:28:06,877 --> 02:28:08,979
more colorful than this. But I

4193
02:28:08,979 --> 02:28:10,982
wanted to include this because

4194
02:28:10,982 --> 02:28:12,950
I think it gives a really good

4195
02:28:12,950 --> 02:28:15,018
idea and probably better than

4196
02:28:15,018 --> 02:28:17,054
looking at a site plan of what

4197
02:28:17,054 --> 02:28:18,556
we're what we're looking at

4198
02:28:18,556 --> 02:28:19,991
here with respect to the

4199
02:28:19,991 --> 02:28:21,158
parquettes and and the angle

4200
02:28:21,158 --> 02:28:23,094
and the sort of the interact

4201
02:28:23,094 --> 02:28:30,001
between the two houses or the like roads of houses

4202
02:28:30,001 --> 02:28:32,470
This picture is an image

4203
02:28:32,470 --> 02:28:35,105
looking from the north side of

4204
02:28:35,105 --> 02:28:37,141
the development looking south

4205
02:28:37,141 --> 02:28:39,276
and again, I I wanted to

4206
02:28:39,276 --> 02:28:40,378
include it because I think it

4207
02:28:40,378 --> 02:28:41,978
gives a good sense of scale as

4208
02:28:41,978 --> 02:28:43,280
far as, you know, distance

4209
02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:44,615
between the units, you know,

4210
02:28:44,615 --> 02:28:46,917
where the paths are located

4211
02:28:46,917 --> 02:28:48,519
within the individual like

4212
02:28:48,519 --> 02:28:51,422
blocks of homes and really how

4213
02:28:51,422 --> 02:28:52,490
this, how this all fits

4214
02:28:52,490 --> 02:28:54,458
together. Additionally, you

4215
02:28:54,458 --> 02:28:57,094
also see and this will be clear

4216
02:28:57,094 --> 02:28:59,096
on on a later slide-off show

4217
02:28:59,096 --> 02:29:00,064
but you you notice the the the

4218
02:29:00,064 --> 02:29:02,099
pathway that runs from the

4219
02:29:02,099 --> 02:29:03,401
bottom of that image and sort

4220
02:29:03,401 --> 02:29:04,935
of heads off into the distance.

4221
02:29:04,935 --> 02:29:08,972
So, we've designed this as a

4222
02:29:08,972 --> 02:29:11,142
looped road system within it

4223
02:29:11,142 --> 02:29:11,975
and you and you'll see that in

4224
02:29:11,975 --> 02:29:14,211
the poolside plan in a moment

4225
02:29:14,211 --> 02:29:16,914
but wrapping around the outside

4226
02:29:16,914 --> 02:29:18,983
of that is this network of

4227
02:29:18,983 --> 02:29:21,152
pathways that you can see the

4228
02:29:21,152 --> 02:29:23,821
startup here that is intended

4229
02:29:23,821 --> 02:29:25,923
to allow people to be able to

4230
02:29:25,923 --> 02:29:27,425
effectively walk the entire

4231
02:29:27,425 --> 02:29:29,293
perimeter of the development on

4232
02:29:29,293 --> 02:29:31,428
a walking path, separate from

4233
02:29:31,428 --> 02:29:32,763
the roadway. Now, there is

4234
02:29:32,763 --> 02:29:33,831
going to be a walkway. I get

4235
02:29:33,831 --> 02:29:34,498
adjacent to the road as well.

4236
02:29:34,498 --> 02:29:38,502
Um but myself and I would

4237
02:29:38,502 --> 02:29:40,037
imagine most people would agree

4238
02:29:40,037 --> 02:29:43,541
with me. Being able to walk

4239
02:29:43,541 --> 02:29:45,342
going on a walk, not adjacent

4240
02:29:45,342 --> 02:29:46,744
to a road, I think is, is

4241
02:29:46,744 --> 02:29:48,979
really, really nice and so,

4242
02:29:48,979 --> 02:29:51,849
this image that we're looking

4243
02:29:51,849 --> 02:29:53,184
at demonstrates the first

4244
02:29:53,184 --> 02:29:54,885
little leg of that loop that's

4245
02:29:54,885 --> 02:29:56,086
going to go around the the

4246
02:29:56,086 --> 02:29:59,590
perimeter of the site. Go

4247
02:29:59,590 --> 02:30:04,628
ahead. Thank you Anne. I'm on

4248
02:30:04,628 --> 02:30:08,466
your previous slide

4249
02:30:08,466 --> 02:30:11,902
The units that are the the row

4250
02:30:11,902 --> 02:30:14,505
houses that are sort of on the

4251
02:30:14,505 --> 02:30:17,541
bottom right hand side. Mm hmm.

4252
02:30:17,541 --> 02:30:19,042
The the ones very far right

4253
02:30:19,042 --> 02:30:21,511
look quite close together. I'm

4254
02:30:21,511 --> 02:30:24,114
just curious as to what the

4255
02:30:24,114 --> 02:30:25,716
space, what is the distance

4256
02:30:25,716 --> 02:30:28,486
between one rowhouse and the

4257
02:30:28,486 --> 02:30:31,155
other at it at its closest. Uh

4258
02:30:31,155 --> 02:30:32,456
I'd have to look that number up

4259
02:30:32,456 --> 02:30:34,024
off the top of my head or I

4260
02:30:34,024 --> 02:30:35,292
can't I don't know what off the

4261
02:30:35,292 --> 02:30:36,126
top of my head but there's

4262
02:30:36,126 --> 02:30:37,694
minimum building separations

4263
02:30:37,694 --> 02:30:39,163
that are specified in the

4264
02:30:39,163 --> 02:30:42,633
Ontario building code and they meet all those codes as

4265
02:30:42,633 --> 02:30:43,834
far as an actual number on it.

4266
02:30:43,834 --> 02:30:46,203
It's the the I don't want to

4267
02:30:46,203 --> 02:30:53,477
guess a number. I don't. Okay.

4268
02:30:53,477 --> 02:30:55,279
one unit. Yeah, so there's the

4269
02:30:55,279 --> 02:30:56,246
so that, that, that's where

4270
02:30:56,246 --> 02:30:57,681
the, the discussion on the

4271
02:30:57,681 --> 02:30:58,749
building code actually comes in

4272
02:30:58,749 --> 02:31:00,050
and it's primary, well,

4273
02:31:00,050 --> 02:31:00,885
there's, there's two reasons.

4274
02:31:00,885 --> 02:31:02,453
One is fire and, and the other

4275
02:31:02,453 --> 02:31:06,557
is, is privacy, and it meets

4276
02:31:06,557 --> 02:31:07,424
that, and, and we actually went

4277
02:31:07,424 --> 02:31:08,592
through this process in

4278
02:31:08,592 --> 02:31:10,628
developing the, the zoning,

4279
02:31:10,628 --> 02:31:12,162
specific to this, to this

4280
02:31:12,162 --> 02:31:15,032
project. Um, additionally,

4281
02:31:15,032 --> 02:31:16,132
we're using, we're using a lot

4282
02:31:16,132 --> 02:31:18,536
of strategically placed

4283
02:31:18,536 --> 02:31:19,403
landscaping features that are

4284
02:31:19,403 --> 02:31:21,539
going to provide additional

4285
02:31:21,539 --> 02:31:23,307
privacy in those areas that are

4286
02:31:23,307 --> 02:31:27,144
tight. So there's a few

4287
02:31:27,144 --> 02:31:28,011
different strategies on dealing

4288
02:31:28,011 --> 02:31:29,480
with that and and that was,

4289
02:31:29,480 --> 02:31:31,015
again, that was part of a lot

4290
02:31:31,015 --> 02:31:36,086
of the crafting of the zoning bylaws to to set and

4291
02:31:36,086 --> 02:31:37,554
deal with privacy and and and

4292
02:31:37,554 --> 02:31:45,496
fire issues.

4293
02:31:45,496 --> 02:31:47,698
Okay, so this is, again,

4294
02:31:47,698 --> 02:31:49,567
similar type of, type of

4295
02:31:49,567 --> 02:31:50,901
images, the one we just looked

4296
02:31:50,901 --> 02:31:53,170
at, but instead of, we're now

4297
02:31:53,170 --> 02:31:55,538
at the southern portion of the

4298
02:31:55,538 --> 02:31:57,675
development looking north. Um,

4299
02:31:57,675 --> 02:32:02,046
and again, you see, there's

4300
02:32:02,046 --> 02:32:03,013
Despite the fact that there

4301
02:32:03,013 --> 02:32:03,948
there's quite a number of

4302
02:32:03,948 --> 02:32:05,015
dwellings there, we've actually

4303
02:32:05,015 --> 02:32:06,417
managed to get quite a bit of

4304
02:32:06,417 --> 02:32:07,751
green space in here and the

4305
02:32:07,751 --> 02:32:11,088
idea is that anybody has a

4306
02:32:11,088 --> 02:32:12,723
parquette that's very, very

4307
02:32:12,723 --> 02:32:14,024
close by to them that they that

4308
02:32:14,024 --> 02:32:15,526
they can make use of and I

4309
02:32:15,526 --> 02:32:16,293
think this image demonstrates

4310
02:32:16,293 --> 02:32:20,064
that.

4311
02:32:20,064 --> 02:32:23,701
floor plans So, we're looking

4312
02:32:23,701 --> 02:32:26,570
at the floor plan for the

4313
02:32:26,570 --> 02:32:30,073
single detached unit Um as you

4314
02:32:30,073 --> 02:32:31,542
can see, it consists of two

4315
02:32:31,542 --> 02:32:33,978
bedrooms, a covered parking

4316
02:32:33,978 --> 02:32:36,212
space, large living room, an

4317
02:32:36,212 --> 02:32:38,449
outdoor patio at the back,

4318
02:32:38,449 --> 02:32:40,050
which will be the top of the

4319
02:32:40,050 --> 02:32:43,754
drawing here. Um and the reason

4320
02:32:43,754 --> 02:32:44,888
I'm showing two here is is it

4321
02:32:44,888 --> 02:32:46,857
shows one is is a barrier free

4322
02:32:46,857 --> 02:32:48,325
and the other one isn't. Um not

4323
02:32:48,325 --> 02:32:51,996
a huge difference between the

4324
02:32:51,996 --> 02:32:53,330
barrier free and non-barrier

4325
02:32:53,330 --> 02:32:54,765
free other than there's some

4326
02:32:54,765 --> 02:32:56,132
slight modifications in the

4327
02:32:56,132 --> 02:33:00,838
kitchen and and the bathroom is a different configuration.

4328
02:33:00,838 --> 02:33:02,505
Uh this is our largest unit and

4329
02:33:02,505 --> 02:33:04,107
it comes in as far as living

4330
02:33:04,107 --> 02:33:05,608
space, a little bit under 1,

4331
02:33:05,608 --> 02:33:08,078
100 square feet. Um and you

4332
02:33:08,078 --> 02:33:09,646
know, obviously, you know,

4333
02:33:09,646 --> 02:33:11,682
anybody can rent it but in our

4334
02:33:11,682 --> 02:33:13,284
mind, we had this this type of

4335
02:33:13,284 --> 02:33:15,552
unit. It was ideally suited for

4336
02:33:15,552 --> 02:33:17,187
a couple. It's it has extra

4337
02:33:17,187 --> 02:33:18,455
space. It has additional

4338
02:33:18,455 --> 02:33:19,857
storage. You'll see within the

4339
02:33:19,857 --> 02:33:20,958
garage, there's actually

4340
02:33:20,958 --> 02:33:25,062
storage built in there as well.

4341
02:33:25,062 --> 02:33:26,563
Uh this unit is our

4342
02:33:26,563 --> 02:33:29,099
semi-detached. Uh it it's a

4343
02:33:29,099 --> 02:33:31,635
little bit smaller but it also

4344
02:33:31,635 --> 02:33:33,337
consists of two bedrooms, a

4345
02:33:33,337 --> 02:33:34,938
large living area, same thing,

4346
02:33:34,938 --> 02:33:38,375
outdoor patio. Um the storage

4347
02:33:38,375 --> 02:33:41,512
is now with the if you look at

4348
02:33:41,512 --> 02:33:43,714
the two rectangles at the the

4349
02:33:43,714 --> 02:33:45,048
bottoms of the units there. Uh

4350
02:33:45,048 --> 02:33:46,683
those are outdoor storage

4351
02:33:46,683 --> 02:33:48,118
units. Obviously because we

4352
02:33:48,118 --> 02:33:50,054
don't have a garage in these

4353
02:33:50,054 --> 02:33:52,356
ones. Um they are we needed to

4354
02:33:52,356 --> 02:33:55,426
provide some sort of space for

4355
02:33:55,426 --> 02:33:56,160
gardening equipment and that

4356
02:33:56,160 --> 02:33:57,561
type of thing. So, all the

4357
02:33:57,561 --> 02:33:59,997
units that aren't the singles

4358
02:33:59,997 --> 02:34:01,464
have these external storage

4359
02:34:01,464 --> 02:34:03,600
spaces in it for for yard work

4360
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:05,202
and so that's those at the back

4361
02:34:05,202 --> 02:34:07,705
and they actually I thought

4362
02:34:07,705 --> 02:34:09,506
this was quite creative of the

4363
02:34:09,506 --> 02:34:11,709
architects. They use that as a

4364
02:34:11,709 --> 02:34:14,611
means of creating a bit of

4365
02:34:14,611 --> 02:34:17,381
privacy and like a a barrier

4366
02:34:17,381 --> 02:34:18,849
basically between the two units

4367
02:34:18,849 --> 02:34:21,452
so that each unit has their own

4368
02:34:21,452 --> 02:34:24,722
bit of private in the back

4369
02:34:24,722 --> 02:34:25,956
there that they can sit without

4370
02:34:25,956 --> 02:34:27,424
having to, you know, stare at

4371
02:34:27,424 --> 02:34:28,359
their their neighbors at the

4372
02:34:28,359 --> 02:34:31,929
right aside

4373
02:34:31,929 --> 02:34:34,465
This one here is, we're calling

4374
02:34:34,465 --> 02:34:37,101
it the deluxe row unit. So,

4375
02:34:37,101 --> 02:34:38,936
this is the larger of the two.

4376
02:34:38,936 --> 02:34:41,371
It is a one bedroom. So, now,

4377
02:34:41,371 --> 02:34:42,739
we're into into one-bedroom

4378
02:34:42,739 --> 02:34:45,476
units as opposed to two. Um

4379
02:34:45,476 --> 02:34:47,010
living space, it's actually

4380
02:34:47,010 --> 02:34:49,446
pretty close. Let me save the

4381
02:34:49,446 --> 02:34:51,148
one last bedroom. It's fairly

4382
02:34:51,148 --> 02:34:53,150
close to the the same living

4383
02:34:53,150 --> 02:34:54,985
space area as the as a

4384
02:34:54,985 --> 02:34:56,119
semi-detached but obviously the

4385
02:34:56,119 --> 02:34:57,721
main difference being there's

4386
02:34:57,721 --> 02:35:03,093
only the one bedroom.

4387
02:35:03,093 --> 02:35:04,094
All I guess I should specify

4388
02:35:04,094 --> 02:35:05,896
all the units are intended to

4389
02:35:05,896 --> 02:35:08,631
have washer and dryer. Um so

4390
02:35:08,631 --> 02:35:10,167
there's no need for laundromats

4391
02:35:10,167 --> 02:35:12,469
or anything like that. Um and

4392
02:35:12,469 --> 02:35:15,272
again these ones also have the storage units on the

4393
02:35:15,272 --> 02:35:20,043
outside. and finally, we have

4394
02:35:20,043 --> 02:35:25,449
our standard row unit which is certainly more of a a modest

4395
02:35:25,449 --> 02:35:29,019
size. Um In my head I I would

4396
02:35:29,019 --> 02:35:29,753
think this would be most

4397
02:35:29,753 --> 02:35:31,155
appropriate for for an

4398
02:35:31,155 --> 02:35:32,089
individual. I think for a

4399
02:35:32,089 --> 02:35:33,524
couple it'd be it'd be pretty

4400
02:35:33,524 --> 02:35:34,758
tight in there. Not that we

4401
02:35:34,758 --> 02:35:38,762
would limit anybody but it this

4402
02:35:38,762 --> 02:35:40,931
one was really designed to

4403
02:35:40,931 --> 02:35:42,766
provide all those needs of

4404
02:35:42,766 --> 02:35:46,603
living space while keeping the

4405
02:35:46,603 --> 02:35:53,076
cost as minimal as possible to allow for people that aren't

4406
02:35:53,076 --> 02:35:54,745
double income or or have you

4407
02:35:54,745 --> 02:35:56,346
know a very fixed income to be

4408
02:35:56,346 --> 02:35:57,648
able to still live and still

4409
02:35:57,648 --> 02:35:58,615
participate in the village. And

4410
02:35:58,615 --> 02:36:02,453
as I said Earlier, Even these

4411
02:36:02,453 --> 02:36:05,289
units are peppered amongst all

4412
02:36:05,289 --> 02:36:07,458
the other units to really not

4413
02:36:07,458 --> 02:36:09,526
stigmatize somebody who's

4414
02:36:09,526 --> 02:36:11,495
living in the smaller units to

4415
02:36:11,495 --> 02:36:12,295
make them feel just as part of

4416
02:36:12,295 --> 02:36:14,364
the community as as anybody

4417
02:36:14,364 --> 02:36:17,567
else.

4418
02:36:17,567 --> 02:36:18,936
Okay, so now we're looking at

4419
02:36:18,936 --> 02:36:21,672
some architectural renderings,

4420
02:36:21,672 --> 02:36:23,273
nice pictures. Um this is

4421
02:36:23,273 --> 02:36:24,675
obviously the one from the the

4422
02:36:24,675 --> 02:36:26,609
start of the presentation. But

4423
02:36:26,609 --> 02:36:28,512
what we're looking at here is

4424
02:36:28,512 --> 02:36:30,881
one of the connecting pathways

4425
02:36:30,881 --> 02:36:33,516
into into the the core of of I

4426
02:36:33,516 --> 02:36:35,953
believe this one is phase two.

4427
02:36:35,953 --> 02:36:38,622
Um you can see the the covered

4428
02:36:38,622 --> 02:36:39,623
parking and the single family

4429
02:36:39,623 --> 02:36:42,459
home there. And some of the

4430
02:36:42,459 --> 02:36:43,426
benching that we expect with

4431
02:36:43,426 --> 02:36:45,028
our landscape architect as well

4432
02:36:45,028 --> 02:36:48,899
as some of the vegetation that that we that we're looking

4433
02:36:48,899 --> 02:36:51,301
to include. Um I like this one

4434
02:36:51,301 --> 02:36:52,602
because I think it gives a good

4435
02:36:52,602 --> 02:36:55,138
sense of of scale and

4436
02:36:55,138 --> 02:36:56,473
separation between the units

4437
02:36:56,473 --> 02:36:57,941
and and gives a much better

4438
02:36:57,941 --> 02:36:59,509
sense from a human perspective

4439
02:36:59,509 --> 02:37:01,011
of what this is actually

4440
02:37:01,011 --> 02:37:03,280
going to look like when you're standing on the

4441
02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:07,551
ground. So, this one is

4442
02:37:07,551 --> 02:37:09,987
actually just around the corner

4443
02:37:09,987 --> 02:37:11,387
from where we were just

4444
02:37:11,387 --> 02:37:13,156
looking. Uh I had mentioned

4445
02:37:13,156 --> 02:37:16,627
that that sort of network of

4446
02:37:16,627 --> 02:37:19,229
pathways that's going to go go

4447
02:37:19,229 --> 02:37:20,030
around the circumference of the

4448
02:37:20,030 --> 02:37:23,066
site. Uh this is looking north

4449
02:37:23,066 --> 02:37:24,500
along that pathway. So, as you

4450
02:37:24,500 --> 02:37:26,002
can see, again, it gives you a

4451
02:37:26,002 --> 02:37:27,538
good sense of scale of what

4452
02:37:27,538 --> 02:37:29,005
type of separation distances we

4453
02:37:29,005 --> 02:37:31,508
have between adjacent row homes

4454
02:37:31,508 --> 02:37:35,145
and you even see some of the little details of

4455
02:37:35,145 --> 02:37:36,747
the of the little picket fences

4456
02:37:36,747 --> 02:37:37,981
that I I say I quite like and I

4457
02:37:37,981 --> 02:37:42,118
think add a lot of charm to to

4458
02:37:42,118 --> 02:37:43,820
that walk that people are

4459
02:37:43,820 --> 02:37:44,688
going to be going to be going

4460
02:37:44,688 --> 02:37:49,560
on. and finally, we're looking

4461
02:37:49,560 --> 02:37:52,162
at standing in one of the front

4462
02:37:52,162 --> 02:37:53,597
porches of our our row units

4463
02:37:53,597 --> 02:37:55,098
looking out across the

4464
02:37:55,098 --> 02:37:57,734
gentlemen across the way. Uh

4465
02:37:57,734 --> 02:37:59,136
again, the the reason I put

4466
02:37:59,136 --> 02:38:00,771
these in is I wanted to give

4467
02:38:00,771 --> 02:38:02,205
everybody a sense of scale of

4468
02:38:02,205 --> 02:38:04,040
what what this is actually

4469
02:38:04,040 --> 02:38:06,043
going to look like and you

4470
02:38:06,043 --> 02:38:08,612
know, when I was when I got

4471
02:38:08,612 --> 02:38:11,148
these images and I I debated

4472
02:38:11,148 --> 02:38:12,616
the architects about how this

4473
02:38:12,616 --> 02:38:13,951
was going to feel and they

4474
02:38:13,951 --> 02:38:15,218
swore up and down. It wouldn't

4475
02:38:15,218 --> 02:38:18,355
feel tight and I think this

4476
02:38:18,355 --> 02:38:19,957
image really gives a really

4477
02:38:19,957 --> 02:38:23,493
good idea of it feels intimate

4478
02:38:23,493 --> 02:38:26,229
but not overly crowded. So, so

4479
02:38:26,229 --> 02:38:27,731
that's why that's why I

4480
02:38:27,731 --> 02:38:28,899
included in here and I can

4481
02:38:28,899 --> 02:38:31,902
really see this this type of

4482
02:38:31,902 --> 02:38:34,938
setup Fostering a good

4483
02:38:34,938 --> 02:38:36,740
community feel, you know, like

4484
02:38:36,740 --> 02:38:38,075
I I'm just, I'm standing here

4485
02:38:38,075 --> 02:38:39,643
and having a conversation with

4486
02:38:39,643 --> 02:38:41,378
this gentleman really is not a

4487
02:38:41,378 --> 02:38:42,345
burden. You know, it's close

4488
02:38:42,345 --> 02:38:43,780
enough that you can talk and

4489
02:38:43,780 --> 02:38:44,614
he's going to be able to hear

4490
02:38:44,614 --> 02:38:47,684
you, right? So, that again is back to this theme of trying

4491
02:38:47,684 --> 02:38:49,686
to drive community as much as

4492
02:38:49,686 --> 02:38:53,022
possible.

4493
02:38:53,022 --> 02:38:54,891
Okay. Going forward. So we

4494
02:38:54,891 --> 02:38:56,360
talked a lot about phase one

4495
02:38:56,360 --> 02:38:58,462
and phase two. And I know

4496
02:38:58,462 --> 02:38:59,630
everybody on this council wants

4497
02:38:59,630 --> 02:39:00,964
to know where is this going?

4498
02:39:00,964 --> 02:39:05,469
That's a fair question. so, we

4499
02:39:05,469 --> 02:39:07,504
haven't filled in all the sites

4500
02:39:07,504 --> 02:39:09,639
yet because as you can probably

4501
02:39:09,639 --> 02:39:11,007
imagine, putting together that

4502
02:39:11,007 --> 02:39:12,876
drawing so that it actually

4503
02:39:12,876 --> 02:39:13,944
meets all the setback code and

4504
02:39:13,944 --> 02:39:15,145
then all that's a lot of work

4505
02:39:15,145 --> 02:39:16,613
but just to to kind of paint a

4506
02:39:16,613 --> 02:39:18,915
picture of where this is going.

4507
02:39:18,915 --> 02:39:22,118
If you notice right down the

4508
02:39:22,118 --> 02:39:23,619
center, sort of running in the

4509
02:39:23,619 --> 02:39:24,621
north, south direction is sort

4510
02:39:24,621 --> 02:39:29,493
of is this meandering path of

4511
02:39:29,493 --> 02:39:31,628
trees and pathways and and we

4512
02:39:31,628 --> 02:39:33,663
our our design team has dubbed

4513
02:39:33,663 --> 02:39:35,698
this to be the the green ribbon

4514
02:39:35,698 --> 02:39:39,670
and it's exactly what it sounds

4515
02:39:39,670 --> 02:39:42,539
like. It's a strip of greenery

4516
02:39:42,539 --> 02:39:45,475
that really drives everybody.

4517
02:39:45,475 --> 02:39:46,876
The intention is to drive

4518
02:39:46,876 --> 02:39:48,111
people towards the center of

4519
02:39:48,111 --> 02:39:50,446
development to foster, you

4520
02:39:50,446 --> 02:39:54,451
know, exercise and and and and

4521
02:39:54,451 --> 02:39:55,886
getting together with friends

4522
02:39:55,886 --> 02:39:59,523
and really creating a beautiful

4523
02:39:59,523 --> 02:40:01,425
pedestrian throughway right

4524
02:40:01,425 --> 02:40:02,726
down the center of this. Now,

4525
02:40:02,726 --> 02:40:05,696
if you notice, we actually tied

4526
02:40:05,696 --> 02:40:10,066
it in to that little extra bit

4527
02:40:10,066 --> 02:40:11,501
of of land that connects into

4528
02:40:11,501 --> 02:40:14,203
43 along the southeast portion

4529
02:40:14,203 --> 02:40:16,339
of the site there. Uh that's

4530
02:40:16,339 --> 02:40:18,608
where we ultimately see the the

4531
02:40:18,608 --> 02:40:19,876
connection with the hospital

4532
02:40:19,876 --> 02:40:21,978
being done on the other side of

4533
02:40:21,978 --> 02:40:27,484
the road. Now, I know there's a network of trails. Uh south

4534
02:40:27,484 --> 02:40:30,554
of 43. And part of our site

4535
02:40:30,554 --> 02:40:31,955
development plan for the

4536
02:40:31,955 --> 02:40:34,123
hospital lands is going to be

4537
02:40:34,123 --> 02:40:35,926
figuring out a way to connect

4538
02:40:35,926 --> 02:40:39,496
that crossing with the of

4539
02:40:39,496 --> 02:40:40,764
trails on the other side of the

4540
02:40:40,764 --> 02:40:44,166
street. Um seem like we want

4541
02:40:44,166 --> 02:40:45,535
people to be able to get to

4542
02:40:45,535 --> 02:40:48,238
Mill Pond but we can't have

4543
02:40:48,238 --> 02:40:49,673
people standing on the side of

4544
02:40:49,673 --> 02:40:51,942
43 trying to run across dodging

4545
02:40:51,942 --> 02:40:54,211
cars, right? So, creating a

4546
02:40:54,211 --> 02:40:56,613
proper crossing and an

4547
02:40:56,613 --> 02:41:00,550
appropriate way of of funneling

4548
02:41:00,550 --> 02:41:02,018
people to the other side is is

4549
02:41:02,018 --> 02:41:03,286
how we're going to do it and

4550
02:41:03,286 --> 02:41:04,488
we're going to do that through

4551
02:41:04,488 --> 02:41:07,290
the Green Ribbon. Um you'll

4552
02:41:07,290 --> 02:41:09,359
notice that we've drawn

4553
02:41:09,359 --> 02:41:10,360
blocking of larger units that

4554
02:41:10,360 --> 02:41:15,732
are sort of enveloping the

4555
02:41:15,732 --> 02:41:17,934
green ribbon I guess. Uh the

4556
02:41:17,934 --> 02:41:19,503
rationale for that for these

4557
02:41:19,503 --> 02:41:21,137
higher density units. Now again

4558
02:41:21,137 --> 02:41:23,540
we're we're limited at at three

4559
02:41:23,540 --> 02:41:24,207
storeys which I think is

4560
02:41:24,207 --> 02:41:26,209
appropriate for the this this

4561
02:41:26,209 --> 02:41:28,011
property. Um but those higher

4562
02:41:28,011 --> 02:41:30,046
density units are going to be

4563
02:41:30,046 --> 02:41:32,214
closer to the the main walkways

4564
02:41:32,214 --> 02:41:34,751
and thoroughfares. Because we

4565
02:41:34,751 --> 02:41:36,153
expect that folks that are

4566
02:41:36,153 --> 02:41:37,154
going to be want to be living

4567
02:41:37,154 --> 02:41:38,221
in those higher density units

4568
02:41:38,221 --> 02:41:39,723
are probably going to be people

4569
02:41:39,723 --> 02:41:41,658
with with higher needs from a

4570
02:41:41,658 --> 02:41:42,359
medical standpoint. So putting

4571
02:41:42,359 --> 02:41:46,029
them closer to the action, so

4572
02:41:46,029 --> 02:41:49,933
to speak, but also potentially

4573
02:41:49,933 --> 02:41:50,967
being on the second floor,

4574
02:41:50,967 --> 02:41:52,636
giving a little bit more

4575
02:41:52,636 --> 02:41:54,337
privacy, I think, just makes an

4576
02:41:54,337 --> 02:41:57,974
awful lot of sense. Finally,

4577
02:41:57,974 --> 02:41:59,276
it's not shown in this drawing,

4578
02:41:59,276 --> 02:42:00,610
but we had talked about

4579
02:42:00,610 --> 02:42:02,045
commercial entities being part

4580
02:42:02,045 --> 02:42:03,612
of this development in our, in

4581
02:42:03,612 --> 02:42:05,916
our zoning is crafted that way.

4582
02:42:05,916 --> 02:42:09,753
Um, while there will be some

4583
02:42:09,753 --> 02:42:12,389
smaller commercial entities

4584
02:42:12,389 --> 02:42:14,558
within the, within the area

4585
02:42:14,558 --> 02:42:16,526
around the green room and the

4586
02:42:16,526 --> 02:42:17,994
bulk of the larger units are

4587
02:42:17,994 --> 02:42:19,563
larger commercial spaces are

4588
02:42:19,563 --> 02:42:21,164
intended to be towards the

4589
02:42:21,164 --> 02:42:23,033
southeast of the development.

4590
02:42:23,033 --> 02:42:26,603
Um Really, that's make sense.

4591
02:42:26,603 --> 02:42:27,537
It's right next to County Road

4592
02:42:27,537 --> 02:42:30,106
43 in order to support those

4593
02:42:30,106 --> 02:42:31,975
businesses and you know, bring

4594
02:42:31,975 --> 02:42:33,944
in individuals, customers from

4595
02:42:33,944 --> 02:42:35,679
that don't live in the village.

4596
02:42:35,679 --> 02:42:38,048
We wanted to make sure that

4597
02:42:38,048 --> 02:42:39,582
those business entities were

4598
02:42:39,582 --> 02:42:40,983
close to the close to the

4599
02:42:40,983 --> 02:42:42,885
county road so that so that

4600
02:42:42,885 --> 02:42:44,020
they can take advantage of

4601
02:42:44,020 --> 02:42:46,222
both. And I think it's just

4602
02:42:46,222 --> 02:42:47,156
generally good planning to have

4603
02:42:47,156 --> 02:42:48,058
your have your commercial

4604
02:42:48,058 --> 02:42:50,493
spaces closer to closer to the

4605
02:42:50,493 --> 02:42:53,997
world. from a servicing

4606
02:42:53,997 --> 02:42:55,799
perspective, we're going to

4607
02:42:55,799 --> 02:43:00,370
look at this drawing here The

4608
02:43:00,370 --> 02:43:02,071
site kind of has a a natural

4609
02:43:02,071 --> 02:43:05,909
crown that runs east west and

4610
02:43:05,909 --> 02:43:08,745
splits it north and south, you

4611
02:43:08,745 --> 02:43:09,412
know, right about where that

4612
02:43:09,412 --> 02:43:10,614
red line is right in the middle

4613
02:43:10,614 --> 02:43:13,016
of the site. So, as part of the

4614
02:43:13,016 --> 02:43:14,484
build out, we we intend to

4615
02:43:14,484 --> 02:43:15,819
actually make use of the the

4616
02:43:15,819 --> 02:43:18,488
natural topography to service

4617
02:43:18,488 --> 02:43:20,557
the site primarily from a

4618
02:43:20,557 --> 02:43:21,424
stormwater perspective. That's

4619
02:43:21,424 --> 02:43:22,459
typically what dictates a lot

4620
02:43:22,459 --> 02:43:23,826
of a lot of your development

4621
02:43:23,826 --> 02:43:26,630
design planning. Um so, with

4622
02:43:26,630 --> 02:43:28,632
that said, the grain that you

4623
02:43:28,632 --> 02:43:30,767
see in in the in the drawing

4624
02:43:30,767 --> 02:43:33,136
here is where we're proposing

4625
02:43:33,136 --> 02:43:35,005
sending our our major flow

4626
02:43:35,005 --> 02:43:37,140
routes from a stormwater

4627
02:43:37,140 --> 02:43:39,509
perspective Um and you'll

4628
02:43:39,509 --> 02:43:41,144
notice that we actually have a

4629
02:43:41,144 --> 02:43:43,413
root earmarked right down the

4630
02:43:43,413 --> 02:43:44,981
center of the green ribbon. The

4631
02:43:44,981 --> 02:43:47,417
rationale for that is

4632
02:43:47,417 --> 02:43:48,752
topographically it actually

4633
02:43:48,752 --> 02:43:51,054
makes a lot of sense. Um that

4634
02:43:51,054 --> 02:43:54,057
it's it's a lower lying area.

4635
02:43:54,057 --> 02:43:58,628
Life of a fire chief.

4636
02:43:58,628 --> 02:44:00,763
But also we we feel that

4637
02:44:00,763 --> 02:44:02,465
there's a a huge benefit in

4638
02:44:02,465 --> 02:44:04,401
creating some water features

4639
02:44:04,401 --> 02:44:06,036
within that green space right

4640
02:44:06,036 --> 02:44:08,604
in the center and sort of

4641
02:44:08,604 --> 02:44:11,474
double, you know, making use of

4642
02:44:11,474 --> 02:44:12,875
stormwater systems that we have

4643
02:44:12,875 --> 02:44:14,610
to do anyway just seem to make

4644
02:44:14,610 --> 02:44:15,545
an awful lot of sense within

4645
02:44:15,545 --> 02:44:17,147
that green space in a minute.

4646
02:44:17,147 --> 02:44:18,448
So, that's why we're earmarking

4647
02:44:18,448 --> 02:44:20,984
some, not all because it's

4648
02:44:20,984 --> 02:44:22,652
would be too much water to send

4649
02:44:22,652 --> 02:44:24,754
it all there but some of the

4650
02:44:24,754 --> 02:44:26,222
stormwater systems are going to

4651
02:44:26,222 --> 02:44:27,157
be flowing through that green

4652
02:44:27,157 --> 02:44:28,658
ribbon to create natural water

4653
02:44:28,658 --> 02:44:30,493
features again to foster that

4654
02:44:30,493 --> 02:44:34,965
connection with nature.

4655
02:44:34,965 --> 02:44:36,399
So, the slide we're looking at

4656
02:44:36,399 --> 02:44:40,370
here is a little blurb on. Just

4657
02:44:40,370 --> 02:44:41,471
hold on one more question.

4658
02:44:41,471 --> 02:44:42,372
Yeah, please. Good. I can go

4659
02:44:42,372 --> 02:44:44,840
back just one. Yup. I'm just, I

4660
02:44:44,840 --> 02:44:46,042
thought this maybe is a good

4661
02:44:46,042 --> 02:44:47,978
time to. Yup. Ask this question

4662
02:44:47,978 --> 02:44:49,446
or whatever. Do you have

4663
02:44:49,446 --> 02:44:50,046
timelines on on those those

4664
02:44:50,046 --> 02:44:52,515
other phases? We're intending

4665
02:44:52,515 --> 02:44:55,085
to do one about one every year.

4666
02:44:55,085 --> 02:44:57,620
I mean, obviously, if the

4667
02:44:57,620 --> 02:45:00,223
market supports it, then, we'll

4668
02:45:00,223 --> 02:45:01,758
we could accelerate that but

4669
02:45:01,758 --> 02:45:03,593
as, you know, as a general

4670
02:45:03,593 --> 02:45:04,360
project planning, we're we're

4671
02:45:04,360 --> 02:45:07,730
looking about one, one every

4672
02:45:07,730 --> 02:45:10,567
year. And would you, would you

4673
02:45:10,567 --> 02:45:13,502
continue west, west from the

4674
02:45:13,502 --> 02:45:16,006
existing two? Yeah, the the the

4675
02:45:16,006 --> 02:45:17,540
working plan right now, I mean,

4676
02:45:17,540 --> 02:45:19,542
subject to more detailed design

4677
02:45:19,542 --> 02:45:21,544
and and investigation is to is

4678
02:45:21,544 --> 02:45:24,046
to expand southwest, I guess it

4679
02:45:24,046 --> 02:45:27,484
would be. Um, and, and then

4680
02:45:27,484 --> 02:45:28,918
ultimately work our way back

4681
02:45:28,918 --> 02:45:31,688
north along the eastern side as

4682
02:45:31,688 --> 02:45:34,590
we go. Yeah. Um, again, I, I

4683
02:45:34,590 --> 02:45:36,359
don't hold me to that. Because

4684
02:45:36,359 --> 02:45:38,028
we have curious what what

4685
02:45:38,028 --> 02:45:39,963
that's that's the intention.

4686
02:45:39,963 --> 02:45:40,697
Yeah. You know, ultimately, we

4687
02:45:40,697 --> 02:45:42,098
want to be able to bring

4688
02:45:42,098 --> 02:45:44,901
commercial spaces in sooner

4689
02:45:44,901 --> 02:45:48,204
rather than later. So, getting

4690
02:45:48,204 --> 02:45:51,141
to that southwest portion. Yup.

4691
02:45:51,141 --> 02:45:52,609
Within a reasonable time frame

4692
02:45:52,609 --> 02:45:54,109
makes makes a lot of sense to

4693
02:45:54,109 --> 02:45:56,345
me but again, we're I don't

4694
02:45:56,345 --> 02:45:57,847
want to get too ahead of myself

4695
02:45:57,847 --> 02:45:58,982
like we're rice is kind of

4696
02:45:58,982 --> 02:46:02,352
subject to change but that's that's the moving on to

4697
02:46:02,352 --> 02:46:04,120
other questions. Uh Deputy

4698
02:46:04,120 --> 02:46:06,022
Mayor Quinn, please. On the

4699
02:46:06,022 --> 02:46:09,159
same lines, just a a concern

4700
02:46:09,159 --> 02:46:11,560
about the the lengthy period to

4701
02:46:11,560 --> 02:46:14,397
get all of the homes built.

4702
02:46:14,397 --> 02:46:16,933
That that can be accommodated

4703
02:46:16,933 --> 02:46:20,070
there. I mean we're in a like

4704
02:46:20,070 --> 02:46:21,438
globally I don't know whether

4705
02:46:21,438 --> 02:46:22,639
it's globally. Certainly in

4706
02:46:22,639 --> 02:46:24,073
Ontario. I I a housing crisis.

4707
02:46:24,073 --> 02:46:26,476
And we really need to get

4708
02:46:26,476 --> 02:46:28,545
houses built. Mhm. As quickly

4709
02:46:28,545 --> 02:46:32,081
as possible. Um

4710
02:46:32,081 --> 02:46:32,882
I'm just saying that because

4711
02:46:32,882 --> 02:46:34,083
it's a concern. Mm hmm. Uh ten

4712
02:46:34,083 --> 02:46:37,921
years down the road who knows?

4713
02:46:37,921 --> 02:46:40,757
Maybe, you know, those houses

4714
02:46:40,757 --> 02:46:42,358
won't be needed but the crisis

4715
02:46:42,358 --> 02:46:44,627
is now. For sure. Yeah. And and

4716
02:46:44,627 --> 02:46:48,932
this is why support from the

4717
02:46:48,932 --> 02:46:50,900
community makes a a big

4718
02:46:50,900 --> 02:46:54,204
difference here, right? Um we

4719
02:46:54,204 --> 02:46:56,372
are looking at the financial

4720
02:46:56,372 --> 02:46:57,974
markets right now to invest a

4721
02:46:57,974 --> 02:47:03,913
significant amount of money in North Glengarry

4722
02:47:03,913 --> 02:47:06,616
We are taking phase one and two

4723
02:47:06,616 --> 02:47:08,051
to basically prove that the

4724
02:47:08,051 --> 02:47:11,988
market is there. Now, if

4725
02:47:11,988 --> 02:47:12,989
through this development

4726
02:47:12,989 --> 02:47:16,059
process, these things, I know

4727
02:47:16,059 --> 02:47:17,427
we're not selling them but you

4728
02:47:17,427 --> 02:47:19,963
know, these things go quick. Um

4729
02:47:19,963 --> 02:47:21,464
then, that gives us further

4730
02:47:21,464 --> 02:47:24,067
justification to to potentially

4731
02:47:24,067 --> 02:47:25,168
amalgamate phases going

4732
02:47:25,168 --> 02:47:27,937
forward. Do larger chunks, and

4733
02:47:27,937 --> 02:47:30,440
what I think is a is kind of

4734
02:47:30,440 --> 02:47:32,107
our big ace in the hole is is

4735
02:47:32,107 --> 02:47:33,609
that manufacturing facility

4736
02:47:33,609 --> 02:47:35,144
with Oakwood that we're, that

4737
02:47:35,144 --> 02:47:36,012
we're going to be working off

4738
02:47:36,012 --> 02:47:38,147
of 'cuz going to be able to

4739
02:47:38,147 --> 02:47:44,621
crank houses out. I think the limiting factor more than

4740
02:47:44,621 --> 02:47:46,221
anything to your point is we

4741
02:47:46,221 --> 02:47:47,690
need housing. But the limiting

4742
02:47:47,690 --> 02:47:49,159
factor really is going to be

4743
02:47:49,159 --> 02:47:51,561
how quick the uptake is on on

4744
02:47:51,561 --> 02:47:55,465
these units. And if if it goes

4745
02:47:55,465 --> 02:47:56,900
away I'm hoping and the way I

4746
02:47:56,900 --> 02:47:58,001
think we all think it's

4747
02:47:58,001 --> 02:47:59,635
going to go. Then then those

4748
02:47:59,635 --> 02:48:01,104
timelines certainly will be

4749
02:48:01,104 --> 02:48:03,139
accelerated. I I have no if if

4750
02:48:03,139 --> 02:48:05,008
we can cut that down to five

4751
02:48:05,008 --> 02:48:07,277
years for the full build out

4752
02:48:07,277 --> 02:48:10,079
even better. Right? So that's

4753
02:48:10,079 --> 02:48:12,549
ehm yet to be determined, but

4754
02:48:12,549 --> 02:48:13,883
I, I try, I don't want to say

4755
02:48:13,883 --> 02:48:15,518
five years and then, you know,

4756
02:48:15,518 --> 02:48:17,287
it ends up being ten and I'd

4757
02:48:17,287 --> 02:48:19,822
rather under promise and over

4758
02:48:19,822 --> 02:48:27,397
deliver, I guess. No problem.

4759
02:48:27,397 --> 02:48:31,534
So, we're looking at here is

4760
02:48:31,534 --> 02:48:33,136
sort of the the the five

4761
02:48:33,136 --> 02:48:34,404
principles of our integrated

4762
02:48:34,404 --> 02:48:36,539
service and technology

4763
02:48:36,539 --> 02:48:37,407
delivery. So, this has nothing

4764
02:48:37,407 --> 02:48:40,610
to do with housing but this is

4765
02:48:40,610 --> 02:48:42,211
the other aspects of of the

4766
02:48:42,211 --> 02:48:43,579
service delivery that we're

4767
02:48:43,579 --> 02:48:44,880
looking to bring to this

4768
02:48:44,880 --> 02:48:46,616
community. Um and I won't spend

4769
02:48:46,616 --> 02:48:48,017
too much time on this because I

4770
02:48:48,017 --> 02:48:49,285
know everybody's getting tired

4771
02:48:49,285 --> 02:48:51,387
but but specifically, personal

4772
02:48:51,387 --> 02:48:53,022
health and support care

4773
02:48:53,022 --> 02:48:55,825
services. Um that goes back to

4774
02:48:55,825 --> 02:48:56,993
what we were talking about,

4775
02:48:56,993 --> 02:48:58,161
customized health care plans

4776
02:48:58,161 --> 02:48:59,429
for people that need it. Uh

4777
02:48:59,429 --> 02:49:02,432
wellness social engagement.

4778
02:49:02,432 --> 02:49:04,400
That's a recreation planning,

4779
02:49:04,400 --> 02:49:06,803
and partnerships with some of

4780
02:49:06,803 --> 02:49:08,203
the local local groups that are

4781
02:49:08,203 --> 02:49:09,539
already doing this, this type

4782
02:49:09,539 --> 02:49:12,075
of work. Site management and

4783
02:49:12,075 --> 02:49:14,711
operations, we have a one of

4784
02:49:14,711 --> 02:49:16,746
our shareholders is a property

4785
02:49:16,746 --> 02:49:19,082
management company, Dory

4786
02:49:19,082 --> 02:49:20,116
Property Management, who is

4787
02:49:20,116 --> 02:49:25,154
going to be overseeing all the maintenance and you

4788
02:49:25,154 --> 02:49:26,623
know the all the things that go

4789
02:49:26,623 --> 02:49:28,925
into running a running a

4790
02:49:28,925 --> 02:49:31,293
community. Um very established

4791
02:49:31,293 --> 02:49:32,929
track record of property

4792
02:49:32,929 --> 02:49:33,630
management. We're we're

4793
02:49:33,630 --> 02:49:35,030
confident he's going to be able

4794
02:49:35,030 --> 02:49:37,000
to do it. Uh information,

4795
02:49:37,000 --> 02:49:38,401
technology, entertainment, and

4796
02:49:38,401 --> 02:49:40,069
communications that's the tech

4797
02:49:40,069 --> 02:49:41,537
side of things. Not just

4798
02:49:41,537 --> 02:49:44,073
related to healthcare but with

4799
02:49:44,073 --> 02:49:46,542
respect to the internet and

4800
02:49:46,542 --> 02:49:47,944
then telephone services and all

4801
02:49:47,944 --> 02:49:49,545
that. Similar to what you'd see

4802
02:49:49,545 --> 02:49:50,613
in other apartment buildings.

4803
02:49:50,613 --> 02:49:52,615
Um we want to make that as

4804
02:49:52,615 --> 02:49:58,054
seamless as possible. Um and

4805
02:49:58,054 --> 02:50:00,055
looking at different systems

4806
02:50:00,055 --> 02:50:01,623
rather than, you know, for

4807
02:50:01,623 --> 02:50:02,992
instance, conventional phone

4808
02:50:02,992 --> 02:50:04,126
systems because we're looking

4809
02:50:04,126 --> 02:50:06,262
to integrate telehealth and, some of these other more

4810
02:50:06,262 --> 02:50:07,964
advanced ways of

4811
02:50:07,964 --> 02:50:12,635
communications, a big push on, connectivity is, is some, is

4812
02:50:12,635 --> 02:50:15,138
a big principle of ours. And I

4813
02:50:15,138 --> 02:50:16,539
already touched on this, but

4814
02:50:16,539 --> 02:50:18,041
commercial and, and

4815
02:50:18,041 --> 02:50:19,142
miscellaneous, senior specific

4816
02:50:19,142 --> 02:50:24,547
services, that would be the, commercial entities, pet

4817
02:50:24,547 --> 02:50:26,049
grooming, and salons, and that

4818
02:50:26,049 --> 02:50:27,016
type of thing. So, so really

4819
02:50:27,016 --> 02:50:31,520
the the goal is to provide a a

4820
02:50:31,520 --> 02:50:34,057
space that covers as many of

4821
02:50:34,057 --> 02:50:35,724
people's needs as possible and

4822
02:50:35,724 --> 02:50:36,993
as they choose to participate

4823
02:50:36,993 --> 02:50:39,194
in 'cuz choice is a big, big

4824
02:50:39,194 --> 02:50:41,964
part too. So, that people can

4825
02:50:41,964 --> 02:50:45,702
do as much or as little within the villages as they

4826
02:50:45,702 --> 02:50:49,138
choose. So, finally, I I added

4827
02:50:49,138 --> 02:50:51,941
this slide because I think it,

4828
02:50:51,941 --> 02:50:54,610
you know, it's funny I have to

4829
02:50:54,610 --> 02:50:56,211
get so tied up and and trying

4830
02:50:56,211 --> 02:50:57,847
to get these these things done

4831
02:50:57,847 --> 02:50:59,281
and and the work done. You sort

4832
02:50:59,281 --> 02:51:01,417
of forget about why we started

4833
02:51:01,417 --> 02:51:03,152
this. So, it's it's nice for me

4834
02:51:03,152 --> 02:51:07,156
to reiterate this. Every person

4835
02:51:07,156 --> 02:51:08,991
involved in this project and

4836
02:51:08,991 --> 02:51:12,562
involved in IHA in general.

4837
02:51:12,562 --> 02:51:14,464
Shares these values. And

4838
02:51:14,464 --> 02:51:15,564
sometimes it's not always easy.

4839
02:51:15,564 --> 02:51:19,535
Um to try convince folks to

4840
02:51:19,535 --> 02:51:24,907
take a longer term approach to

4841
02:51:24,907 --> 02:51:26,208
Financial returns, if I'm being

4842
02:51:26,208 --> 02:51:29,145
honest, isn't always the

4843
02:51:29,145 --> 02:51:33,416
easiest sell. But, everybody

4844
02:51:33,416 --> 02:51:35,551
involved in our organization

4845
02:51:35,551 --> 02:51:36,218
approaches this with care and

4846
02:51:36,218 --> 02:51:38,488
compassion. I'm not going to

4847
02:51:38,488 --> 02:51:40,122
read them all off to you, but

4848
02:51:40,122 --> 02:51:42,625
you can read it there. And we

4849
02:51:42,625 --> 02:51:57,340
have put our team together

4850
02:51:57,340 --> 02:52:00,042
are really where it all starts

4851
02:52:00,042 --> 02:52:01,544
and been working on this for

4852
02:52:01,544 --> 02:52:05,148
four years. So, I wanted to

4853
02:52:05,148 --> 02:52:06,449
communicate this to you that

4854
02:52:06,449 --> 02:52:07,350
this still is the core of

4855
02:52:07,350 --> 02:52:09,017
everything that we're trying to

4856
02:52:09,017 --> 02:52:12,922
do here and we haven't

4857
02:52:12,922 --> 02:52:16,926
forgotten that. So, that is

4858
02:52:16,926 --> 02:52:19,095
about it for my presentation.

4859
02:52:19,095 --> 02:52:21,864
Um I realized that probably

4860
02:52:21,864 --> 02:52:22,899
went a bit longer than I

4861
02:52:22,899 --> 02:52:24,066
intended to but but I

4862
02:52:24,066 --> 02:52:28,337
appreciate everybody's time and I'd be happy to field

4863
02:52:28,337 --> 02:52:30,740
questions. Okay, thank you

4864
02:52:30,740 --> 02:52:31,607
Will. Are there any questions

4865
02:52:31,607 --> 02:52:34,743
from Councilor Mada Thank you,

4866
02:52:34,743 --> 02:52:36,045
mister mayor. Well, I just

4867
02:52:36,045 --> 02:52:37,547
want to go back to parking.

4868
02:52:37,547 --> 02:52:41,517
Sure. Um visitor spots? Yes.

4869
02:52:41,517 --> 02:52:42,618
They'll be designated

4870
02:52:42,618 --> 02:52:45,421
presumably? Yes. Weave year?

4871
02:52:45,421 --> 02:52:46,522
Yeah, excuse me. We've

4872
02:52:46,522 --> 02:52:47,423
earmarked one spot for every

4873
02:52:47,423 --> 02:52:50,493
unit and we've I guess I should

4874
02:52:50,493 --> 02:52:51,961
go back. I should just see it.

4875
02:52:51,961 --> 02:52:57,066
Basically, there is it's a good

4876
02:52:57,066 --> 02:52:59,302
one. So, you see the along the

4877
02:52:59,302 --> 02:53:02,605
road there. There are there's a

4878
02:53:02,605 --> 02:53:03,940
cutouts. Yeah. So, all those

4879
02:53:03,940 --> 02:53:05,475
are are street parking for

4880
02:53:05,475 --> 02:53:07,143
visitor visitor parking and

4881
02:53:07,143 --> 02:53:08,076
there's actually, there's a

4882
02:53:08,076 --> 02:53:09,145
couple of additional spaces

4883
02:53:09,145 --> 02:53:11,013
within the within the parking

4884
02:53:11,013 --> 02:53:11,981
units themselves for for

4885
02:53:11,981 --> 02:53:12,815
visitors. So, we've got here

4886
02:53:12,815 --> 02:53:15,418
marked quite bit of quite a bit

4887
02:53:15,418 --> 02:53:16,652
of visitor parking space. Good

4888
02:53:16,652 --> 02:53:19,956
stuff. What about plugins for

4889
02:53:19,956 --> 02:53:23,025
EVs? Plug-ins for EVs are

4890
02:53:23,025 --> 02:53:24,560
something that we'd like to do.

4891
02:53:24,560 --> 02:53:27,163
Now when we first put this out

4892
02:53:27,163 --> 02:53:28,664
there it was kind of made clear

4893
02:53:28,664 --> 02:53:29,966
to us that not too many people

4894
02:53:29,966 --> 02:53:32,568
happy bees around here. Um with

4895
02:53:32,568 --> 02:53:34,937
that said is our intention to

4896
02:53:34,937 --> 02:53:37,473
put in the electrical

4897
02:53:37,473 --> 02:53:38,207
infrastructure to be able to

4898
02:53:38,207 --> 02:53:42,211
install them. When people are

4899
02:53:42,211 --> 02:53:43,980
asking for them. You know we

4900
02:53:43,980 --> 02:53:44,881
looked at the pedestals to be

4901
02:53:44,881 --> 02:53:46,214
able to to have them there.

4902
02:53:46,214 --> 02:53:48,351
Okay. Um and the feedback we

4903
02:53:48,351 --> 02:53:51,954
got was honestly not very good

4904
02:53:51,954 --> 02:53:54,123
on EVs but we want to be able

4905
02:53:54,123 --> 02:53:58,995
to pivot if and when we're ready to put in. People

4906
02:53:58,995 --> 02:54:00,963
say that there's a need. Jacob,

4907
02:54:00,963 --> 02:54:07,603
you have a comment?

4908
02:54:07,603 --> 02:54:11,541
No.

4909
02:54:11,541 --> 02:54:12,708
They were and I know they took

4910
02:54:12,708 --> 02:54:13,776
it out and it was something I

4911
02:54:13,776 --> 02:54:14,610
wanted to ask you about but you

4912
02:54:14,610 --> 02:54:15,812
haven't had time. But with that

4913
02:54:15,812 --> 02:54:18,047
said but just to address that

4914
02:54:18,047 --> 02:54:19,682
specifically. EVs are the way

4915
02:54:19,682 --> 02:54:23,686
of the future. This is it. And building in that similar to

4916
02:54:23,686 --> 02:54:25,421
what what's within the units.

4917
02:54:25,421 --> 02:54:26,155
Building in that backing

4918
02:54:26,155 --> 02:54:27,490
infrastructure and making sure

4919
02:54:27,490 --> 02:54:28,958
for instance our electrical

4920
02:54:28,958 --> 02:54:30,626
distribution lines are capable

4921
02:54:30,626 --> 02:54:32,662
of delivering charge to EVs.

4922
02:54:32,662 --> 02:54:34,096
Yep. Is something that we've

4923
02:54:34,096 --> 02:54:35,865
insisted with Hydro One and

4924
02:54:35,865 --> 02:54:38,067
with our with our our

4925
02:54:38,067 --> 02:54:38,634
mechanical electrical

4926
02:54:38,634 --> 02:54:39,935
designers. I was wondering if

4927
02:54:39,935 --> 02:54:41,404
it was if there was thought of

4928
02:54:41,404 --> 02:54:43,472
you you have a lot of things

4929
02:54:43,472 --> 02:54:47,476
earmarked as future carport.

4930
02:54:47,476 --> 02:54:49,078
And that was I think on

4931
02:54:49,078 --> 02:54:49,812
previous drawings that we had

4932
02:54:49,812 --> 02:54:50,680
seen there was a lot of

4933
02:54:50,680 --> 02:54:52,081
carport. Yeah. Build in. So, I

4934
02:54:52,081 --> 02:54:53,549
mean, it would kind of make

4935
02:54:53,549 --> 02:54:54,617
sense. And really, the only

4936
02:54:54,617 --> 02:54:55,785
reason I'm thinking is this, we

4937
02:54:55,785 --> 02:54:57,153
know there are vehicle

4938
02:54:57,153 --> 02:54:58,387
manufacturers that are going

4939
02:54:58,387 --> 02:55:00,022
solely electric within the next

4940
02:55:00,022 --> 02:55:01,824
five to six years. So, yes,

4941
02:55:01,824 --> 02:55:03,693
there's not a massive uptake in

4942
02:55:03,693 --> 02:55:04,927
this area, but eventually

4943
02:55:04,927 --> 02:55:05,728
people are not going to have

4944
02:55:05,728 --> 02:55:07,029
much in the way of choice. So

4945
02:55:07,029 --> 02:55:08,064
that's. Sure. Yeah. Did you

4946
02:55:08,064 --> 02:55:10,566
know? Yeah. Yeah. We built in

4947
02:55:10,566 --> 02:55:11,901
plans to expand that in the

4948
02:55:11,901 --> 02:55:13,369
future. Um, again, this is

4949
02:55:13,369 --> 02:55:15,638
always a balancing act of cost

4950
02:55:15,638 --> 02:55:19,976
control, right? Um, and, in

4951
02:55:19,976 --> 02:55:21,277
order to make sure that the

4952
02:55:21,277 --> 02:55:22,945
project was viable and similar

4953
02:55:22,945 --> 02:55:25,481
to the covered parking. Um we

4954
02:55:25,481 --> 02:55:27,283
really, it was unfortunately

4955
02:55:27,283 --> 02:55:29,418
something that we had to punt

4956
02:55:29,418 --> 02:55:30,386
the ball a little bit on that

4957
02:55:30,386 --> 02:55:32,054
one to make sure that we we hit

4958
02:55:32,054 --> 02:55:33,155
those affordability targets

4959
02:55:33,155 --> 02:55:35,024
because I think, you know, it

4960
02:55:35,024 --> 02:55:36,959
was kind of a trade off of

4961
02:55:36,959 --> 02:55:38,995
putting in for instance,

4962
02:55:38,995 --> 02:55:41,664
electrical charging stations.

4963
02:55:41,664 --> 02:55:44,133
Now, would cause a bump that

4964
02:55:44,133 --> 02:55:45,701
would make things slightly less

4965
02:55:45,701 --> 02:55:47,136
affordable. Totally, right?

4966
02:55:47,136 --> 02:55:48,037
Fair enough. One more question

4967
02:55:48,037 --> 02:55:51,707
on the parking in design of

4968
02:55:51,707 --> 02:55:56,745
this in in discussion with your architects. Uh what about

4969
02:55:56,745 --> 02:55:58,614
snow storage or snow removal?

4970
02:55:58,614 --> 02:56:00,750
Snow snow is going to be pushed

4971
02:56:00,750 --> 02:56:04,453
into for now into the vacant

4972
02:56:04,453 --> 02:56:05,421
lands adjacent to the site. But

4973
02:56:05,421 --> 02:56:08,891
as part of subsequent phases

4974
02:56:08,891 --> 02:56:09,725
obviously we're not going to be

4975
02:56:09,725 --> 02:56:10,526
able to do that. So we're

4976
02:56:10,526 --> 02:56:12,528
going to be building in snow

4977
02:56:12,528 --> 02:56:14,096
storage. Probably not snow

4978
02:56:14,096 --> 02:56:15,498
removal. I just I don't think

4979
02:56:15,498 --> 02:56:17,166
that's really practical. Uh but

4980
02:56:17,166 --> 02:56:19,702
building in storage locations

4981
02:56:19,702 --> 02:56:21,270
that would likely be park space

4982
02:56:21,270 --> 02:56:22,805
in the summertime. Yep. Um for

4983
02:56:22,805 --> 02:56:24,640
a snow storage. Okay. Good

4984
02:56:24,640 --> 02:56:26,542
enough. Thank you very much.

4985
02:56:26,542 --> 02:56:28,911
Thank you. Councilman. Um Will,

4986
02:56:28,911 --> 02:56:30,145
do you have any idea at this

4987
02:56:30,145 --> 02:56:32,882
point Um what these units are

4988
02:56:32,882 --> 02:56:35,484
going to rent for? Cost wise.

4989
02:56:35,484 --> 02:56:37,286
We we'd seen some numbers

4990
02:56:37,286 --> 02:56:38,353
before I think. Yeah, I like

4991
02:56:38,353 --> 02:56:39,455
it. I I I don't want to give

4992
02:56:39,455 --> 02:56:41,290
specific rents because that's

4993
02:56:41,290 --> 02:56:42,625
not. No, no. Hasn't been but

4994
02:56:42,625 --> 02:56:43,826
yeah, generally, we're coming

4995
02:56:43,826 --> 02:56:46,762
in at around the, you know, 15

4996
02:56:46,762 --> 02:56:48,631
hundred on the low end to to

4997
02:56:48,631 --> 02:56:50,399
2500 on the high end. Okay. But

4998
02:56:50,399 --> 02:56:52,534
that's that's still subject to

4999
02:56:52,534 --> 02:56:54,169
change. So. Yeah. Um again,

5000
02:56:54,169 --> 02:56:56,605
like my comment before, don't quote me out. Yeah, for

5001
02:56:56,605 --> 02:56:58,740
sure. And are there, are there, going to be lease

5002
02:56:58,740 --> 02:57:00,509
options? Is it month to month?

5003
02:57:00,509 --> 02:57:01,677
Is it lease option a year or is

5004
02:57:01,677 --> 02:57:02,745
it? Yeah, so we'll be asking

5005
02:57:02,745 --> 02:57:04,747
people to sign leases, typical

5006
02:57:04,747 --> 02:57:06,448
for, yeah, any any apartment,

5007
02:57:06,448 --> 02:57:07,817
right, would, that would be out

5008
02:57:07,817 --> 02:57:10,218
there. The specific terms of

5009
02:57:10,218 --> 02:57:12,021
those leases, whether they're

5010
02:57:12,021 --> 02:57:13,989
one or two, that's going to be

5011
02:57:13,989 --> 02:57:14,724
developed through a property

5012
02:57:14,724 --> 02:57:16,959
management company. We, we may

5013
02:57:16,959 --> 02:57:18,594
potentially incentivize people

5014
02:57:18,594 --> 02:57:21,030
to, to, to sign up for longer,

5015
02:57:21,030 --> 02:57:22,498
through a variety of weans,

5016
02:57:22,498 --> 02:57:23,432
but, but it's going to be

5017
02:57:23,432 --> 02:57:25,034
fairly conventional leases. And

5018
02:57:25,034 --> 02:57:26,735
age restrictions? No, and that

5019
02:57:26,735 --> 02:57:30,039
was, that was something that we

5020
02:57:30,039 --> 02:57:30,906
found out as we started dealing

5021
02:57:30,906 --> 02:57:34,510
with CMHC. Um, We're not

5022
02:57:34,510 --> 02:57:36,078
technically allowed to to give

5023
02:57:36,078 --> 02:57:37,680
age restrictions. Okay. And you

5024
02:57:37,680 --> 02:57:40,082
know, even from a you know, a

5025
02:57:40,082 --> 02:57:42,618
human standpoint, I guess, you

5026
02:57:42,618 --> 02:57:44,119
know, I started out with

5027
02:57:44,119 --> 02:57:45,654
seniors. That's where we where

5028
02:57:45,654 --> 02:57:46,756
we started this whole process

5029
02:57:46,756 --> 02:57:49,224
and then, in doing focus groups

5030
02:57:49,224 --> 02:57:51,993
and talking to frankly, anybody

5031
02:57:51,993 --> 02:57:53,428
who would listen to me about

5032
02:57:53,428 --> 02:57:56,064
it. Um it became clear that

5033
02:57:56,064 --> 02:57:58,434
there are a lot of folks that

5034
02:57:58,434 --> 02:58:01,137
aren't seniors that would

5035
02:58:01,137 --> 02:58:02,738
benefit from a community like

5036
02:58:02,738 --> 02:58:04,206
this whether that's an adult

5037
02:58:04,206 --> 02:58:05,441
with physical or mental

5038
02:58:05,441 --> 02:58:09,779
abilities, you know, that's

5039
02:58:09,779 --> 02:58:12,948
probably the the main one. but

5040
02:58:12,948 --> 02:58:15,451
people that aren't sixty plus

5041
02:58:15,451 --> 02:58:17,286
that could benefit from from a

5042
02:58:17,286 --> 02:58:19,488
community living such as this.

5043
02:58:19,488 --> 02:58:21,991
So, so short answer, no. Now,

5044
02:58:21,991 --> 02:58:23,725
obviously, it's structured such

5045
02:58:23,725 --> 02:58:24,492
yet. I don't think it would

5046
02:58:24,492 --> 02:58:26,094
make a lot of sense for a

5047
02:58:26,094 --> 02:58:27,863
family of four to come live

5048
02:58:27,863 --> 02:58:30,633
here. Yeah. Um so, you know, in

5049
02:58:30,633 --> 02:58:32,167
we're not saying no but it

5050
02:58:32,167 --> 02:58:33,302
doesn't make a whole lot of

5051
02:58:33,302 --> 02:58:34,336
sense for that family to move

5052
02:58:34,336 --> 02:58:37,139
here. Um but if it makes sense

5053
02:58:37,139 --> 02:58:39,641
for an individual to be able to

5054
02:58:39,641 --> 02:58:42,211
live here, then, then, I don't

5055
02:58:42,211 --> 02:58:43,111
we won't say no. That's what

5056
02:58:43,111 --> 02:58:47,949
family. Thank you. Go ahead. Um

5057
02:58:47,949 --> 02:58:50,753
we'll just some information in

5058
02:58:50,753 --> 02:58:52,087
going through the reports and I

5059
02:58:52,087 --> 02:58:53,422
suspect it's due to some of the

5060
02:58:53,422 --> 02:58:57,159
older reports. Um but so that

5061
02:58:57,159 --> 02:58:58,760
people know because we're

5062
02:58:58,760 --> 02:59:00,362
getting a lot of questions

5063
02:59:00,362 --> 02:59:01,563
about this. Sure. Yeah. Uh I've

5064
02:59:01,563 --> 02:59:04,934
got something that says 507

5065
02:59:04,934 --> 02:59:05,700
senior residential units 40,

5066
02:59:05,700 --> 02:59:07,636
000 square feet of commercial.

5067
02:59:07,636 --> 02:59:09,505
3, 000 square feet of office

5068
02:59:09,505 --> 02:59:11,540
space. And something else that

5069
02:59:11,540 --> 02:59:13,509
says seven to 800 units. What's

5070
02:59:13,509 --> 02:59:15,678
the current? Uh seven to 800

5071
02:59:15,678 --> 02:59:17,579
units. I'm not sure where that first one came. It's been

5072
02:59:17,579 --> 02:59:19,448
a much older. And still the

5073
02:59:19,448 --> 02:59:20,115
commercial and office mix?

5074
02:59:20,115 --> 02:59:21,516
Yeah. Commercial. Probably no I

5075
02:59:21,516 --> 02:59:23,986
mean, other than maybe a like a

5076
02:59:23,986 --> 02:59:25,554
medical clinic or something

5077
02:59:25,554 --> 02:59:27,489
like that but. Great. You know,

5078
02:59:27,489 --> 02:59:28,924
in discussion with the hospital

5079
02:59:28,924 --> 02:59:31,994
who are also our our partners,

5080
02:59:31,994 --> 02:59:33,529
they also have clinic space

5081
02:59:33,529 --> 02:59:34,897
within their facilities. So,

5082
02:59:34,897 --> 02:59:36,064
obviously, we don't want to

5083
02:59:36,064 --> 02:59:37,700
double dip on something that's

5084
02:59:37,700 --> 02:59:40,035
across the street. So, but when

5085
02:59:40,035 --> 02:59:41,537
we set offices, I'm in my head,

5086
02:59:41,537 --> 02:59:42,437
I thought, you know, maybe a

5087
02:59:42,437 --> 02:59:45,507
dentist or a massage therapy or

5088
02:59:45,507 --> 02:59:48,043
something like that. Okay, fair

5089
02:59:48,043 --> 02:59:51,814
enough. Um there's some traffic

5090
02:59:51,814 --> 02:59:52,748
and street stuff. I don't think

5091
02:59:52,748 --> 02:59:54,149
we really need to go into that

5092
02:59:54,149 --> 02:59:56,118
right now. Anybody else? Well,

5093
02:59:56,118 --> 02:59:58,053
I see if I have anything else.

5094
02:59:58,053 --> 02:59:59,455
Any further questions from

5095
02:59:59,455 --> 03:00:01,824
anyone? Go ahead. Council

5096
03:00:01,824 --> 03:00:04,226
Wenson. Guess about the cost? I

5097
03:00:04,226 --> 03:00:05,594
think there's still a group

5098
03:00:05,594 --> 03:00:08,196
that we're going to have a a

5099
03:00:08,196 --> 03:00:11,000
group whose needs we won't be

5100
03:00:11,000 --> 03:00:13,168
able to meet based upon the

5101
03:00:13,168 --> 03:00:14,737
rent that you're offering. The

5102
03:00:14,737 --> 03:00:16,238
facility, the multi-story

5103
03:00:16,238 --> 03:00:17,806
facility that you're building

5104
03:00:17,806 --> 03:00:19,541
for seniors with Greater Care

5105
03:00:19,541 --> 03:00:22,044
needs. Will the cost likely be

5106
03:00:22,044 --> 03:00:23,479
lower than these individual

5107
03:00:23,479 --> 03:00:25,014
units? Potentially, it's

5108
03:00:25,014 --> 03:00:27,182
probably a little too early to

5109
03:00:27,182 --> 03:00:28,617
say on that and I I would I

5110
03:00:28,617 --> 03:00:30,118
would probably defer you to to

5111
03:00:30,118 --> 03:00:31,653
Steve as part of that that sort

5112
03:00:31,653 --> 03:00:33,389
of grander conversation about

5113
03:00:33,389 --> 03:00:35,457
people with with much higher

5114
03:00:35,457 --> 03:00:37,025
financial needs than that. I

5115
03:00:37,025 --> 03:00:39,161
know he had had some

5116
03:00:39,161 --> 03:00:40,896
discussions with some community

5117
03:00:40,896 --> 03:00:44,633
housing groups around here of earmarking some units. But

5118
03:00:44,633 --> 03:00:47,069
I'd be I'd be hesitant to to

5119
03:00:47,069 --> 03:00:47,869
comment specifically on that

5120
03:00:47,869 --> 03:00:49,138
today. But do we want to

5121
03:00:49,138 --> 03:00:55,477
address that Yes. How we do it

5122
03:00:55,477 --> 03:00:56,745
remains to be seen at this

5123
03:00:56,745 --> 03:00:59,815
point. Councilor Noble. I was

5124
03:00:59,815 --> 03:01:01,684
just going to make a comment.

5125
03:01:01,684 --> 03:01:02,885
Thank you. Um while we're

5126
03:01:02,885 --> 03:01:06,055
waiting for Mike as a 16 year

5127
03:01:06,055 --> 03:01:07,022
old that moved into a house

5128
03:01:07,022 --> 03:01:08,757
that had been built with

5129
03:01:08,757 --> 03:01:10,893
someone previously who'd been a

5130
03:01:10,893 --> 03:01:12,928
senior. I absolutely love the

5131
03:01:12,928 --> 03:01:14,563
crab bar in the shower.

5132
03:01:14,563 --> 03:01:16,632
Awesome. At every hotel I go to

5133
03:01:16,632 --> 03:01:17,967
I use it for some reason.

5134
03:01:17,967 --> 03:01:19,868
Fantastic. Uh so I highly

5135
03:01:19,868 --> 03:01:21,136
recommend you put them in for

5136
03:01:21,136 --> 03:01:22,104
because everybody. Whether

5137
03:01:22,104 --> 03:01:23,138
you're shaving your legs,

5138
03:01:23,138 --> 03:01:24,073
you're cleaning everybody.

5139
03:01:24,073 --> 03:01:26,842
can that grab bar. I

5140
03:01:26,842 --> 03:01:27,977
don't know about the one. Try

5141
03:01:27,977 --> 03:01:31,046
it next time I shave my legs. I

5142
03:01:31,046 --> 03:01:32,348
really wish those that was one

5143
03:01:32,348 --> 03:01:33,615
of those times where you didn't

5144
03:01:33,615 --> 03:01:38,053
turn on your microphone.

5145
03:01:38,053 --> 03:01:41,657
Okay, you're done? You're good?

5146
03:01:41,657 --> 03:01:42,958
Okay, any further questions or

5147
03:01:42,958 --> 03:01:46,628
comments? See none. Uh thank

5148
03:01:46,628 --> 03:01:48,030
you Will. Uh is there any

5149
03:01:48,030 --> 03:01:49,531
process at this point Sarah?

5150
03:01:49,531 --> 03:01:50,933
That was just for information.

5151
03:01:50,933 --> 03:01:52,501
Uh through Mister Mayor. Yes.

5152
03:01:52,501 --> 03:01:53,535
So this is just information and

5153
03:01:53,535 --> 03:01:56,271
then Jacob will be bringing

5154
03:01:56,271 --> 03:01:57,539
back the site plan for council

5155
03:01:57,539 --> 03:01:59,108
approval at a future meeting.

5156
03:01:59,108 --> 03:02:00,108
That's awesome. Okay, great.

5157
03:02:00,108 --> 03:02:01,777
Well, thank you Will. Uh very

5158
03:02:01,777 --> 03:02:03,279
much. Appreciate it. It's it's

5159
03:02:03,279 --> 03:02:04,613
a big project and we're excited

5160
03:02:04,613 --> 03:02:07,149
about it. So, we can't as you

5161
03:02:07,149 --> 03:02:08,616
said, it's been quite a few

5162
03:02:08,616 --> 03:02:10,018
years. So, we're very glad it's

5163
03:02:10,018 --> 03:02:11,153
coming to fruition. So, thank

5164
03:02:11,153 --> 03:02:12,888
you for your presentation. No

5165
03:02:12,888 --> 03:02:14,122
problem. Thanks for having me.

5166
03:02:14,122 --> 03:02:16,158
Great. Take care, everybody.

5167
03:02:16,158 --> 03:02:18,627
Okay? We will move to

5168
03:02:18,627 --> 03:02:19,695
adjournment. I have a motion

5169
03:02:19,695 --> 03:02:21,096
moved by Councilor Massey.

5170
03:02:21,096 --> 03:02:22,097
Seconded by Councilor Noble.

5171
03:02:22,097 --> 03:02:23,065
There being no further business

5172
03:02:23,065 --> 03:02:24,099
to discuss. The meeting was

5173
03:02:24,099 --> 03:02:29,104
adjourned at 603 PM. All those

5174
03:02:29,104 --> 03:02:31,740
in favor? Motion is carried.

5175
03:02:31,740 --> 03:02:33,842
Thank you everyone. I thought I

5176
03:02:33,842 --> 03:02:35,842
was I was getting to read it.