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Maybe this isn't going to be here. You

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>> Okay. Like to call the order. Wednesday,

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August 19th, planning commission

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meeting, please. Roll call. Rodrik,

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>> present.

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>> Candace,

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>> here.

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>> Tim D absent. Bill

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>> present.

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>> Jared

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>> here. Randall

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>> present

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>> and Tim present. Okay. Item number two,

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review and approve minutes from the

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planning commission meeting of June

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24th, 2026.

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When I have to review, I'll take a

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motion.

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» Make a motion to approve.

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>> Is there a second?

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>> A second.

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>> Any corrections, comments, or changes?

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All in favor say I.

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>> I.

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>> Okay. Item number three is open public

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hearing. Public hearing for petitioner

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by the Wisconsin de development of LLC

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to reszone 850 6th Street North Hudson

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from C3 Industrial Commercial to RA

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limited to family residential district.

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Public hearing allows anybody in the

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residence to come up and speak. Provide

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your name, your address, and please

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limit to two minutes. Try not to repeat

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any prior to the person in front of you.

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And that gives you opportunity to talk

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and speak. So, anybody want willing to

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step up first on this initial open

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public hearing?

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» There you go, sir. Thank you.

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Uh, good evening. My name is Sean Bohan,

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engineer with Advanced Engineering

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Concepts. Um, working with the

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developers. Um, we are looking to end up

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um having this reszone from a C3 to the

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RA, the limited two family residential

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district. Um, I won't go through the the

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whole thing. This is like our third time

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here, so I think everybody knows the

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property that we're discussing on

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Station Lane. Um, and we've been here

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before talking about the apartments. Uh,

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we listen to the concerns of the

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neighborhood. Um, concerns about

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traffic, concerns about the height of

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the building. um just the number of

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units, that type of stuff. The first

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time we ended up coming, it was like 48

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to 50 for an for an apartment building.

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Um we down uh we went down to um uh 27

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units, but it was still going to end up

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being like a high density multifamily

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zoning. Now we're looking at doing uh

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twin homes. Um and we're looking at um

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proposing around seven of them um which

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would be 14 total units. It's going to

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end up being um a condo plat. It's not

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going to end up being with like private

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road access and everything with them. Um

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the buildings vary in size and stuff

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like that, but they're basically, you

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know, duplex units, but we're going to

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be able to sell each each one of them um

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each one of the sides and stuff. Um we

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do end up having access that comes off a

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station lane. Uh we are providing a

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hammerhead turnaround for emergency

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vehicles um and stuff into the site.

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station lane and then the remaining five

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or 10 units total that would end up

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being off of the private road. Um we'll

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end up having storm water facilities

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that will be within the site would

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probably be in like the southwest corner

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of the site. Um and then it would

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discharge into um a 50 foot easement,

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drainage easement and stuff that that

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comes across this property. So um and

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that continues basically kind of to the

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south and to the west um before entering

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the river. So, um, pretty simple. Um, a

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lot different than, um, you know, the

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other ones that we were proposing. This

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would be in like a homeowners

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association. So, you'd have an

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association that would essentially be

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taking care of lawns and any type of,

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you know, the the access into it,

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pavement, that type of thing. Um, but

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quite a diff quite a bit different. Um I

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think the neighborhood would end up

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agreeing and being happy the fact that

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they don't end up having a three-story

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building I think was like their biggest

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complaint along with a number of units.

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So um so going from 50 down to 27 down

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to 14. Um and the buildings being either

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single story or potential could be a

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twotory and stuff like that but not the

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threetory that they were concerned

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about. So, um, and with that, I'll end

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up answering any questions that the

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commission may end up having. And I I

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guess I'd prefer like I know last time

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it got out of hand a little bit.

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>> Yeah, we're going to keep it organized.

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>> I'm going to um,

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>> you know, if you guys don't have any

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questions um, and if people are coming

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up here and asking, they can end up

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making statements. I can come up and

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answering them after that. Not the back

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and forth and stuff like that. That went

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last time. That was

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>> I think a little uncalled for. Yeah.

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>> Yep. Yep. We'll focus. Anybody on the

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commission here want to any questions in

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general?

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>> Just one on the two units that are off

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station lane.

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>> So they'll be the entrance to the

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property

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>> green space then driveway then green

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space then driveway

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like three three separate openings on

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station lane.

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>> station lane is right here.

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So yeah, you'll end up having we have

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one of the driveways that's across from

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the existing home. Uh there's another

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one that sits right here. So you end up

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having access here and two driveways

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here. Those driveways are narrow off.

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They're not going to be like the full

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work that goes out to it. Mhm.

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>> Um but there are, you know, going for

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the zoning, we'll have to be coming back

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for um I think through maybe the

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conditional use or the cup process

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because there are certain things that um

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we're going to be needing to talk about

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and stuff like that as far as like the

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density and that type of stuff with the

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lot sizes since it's a condo plat.

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would be fronting a public street. Um,

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so there's a few things that we still

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need to end up working through.

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>> that's all I had to come back.

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>> Okay. Nothing else.

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» I guess nothing. Sean, no. Anybody else?

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Any want to statement, comments,

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questions on this?

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I mean, it's this is pretty preliminary.

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there's no measurements or anything so

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we I don't really see all the setbacks

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and measurements and if that hammerhead

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turnaround is wide enough for

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>> emergency use and I mean that will have

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to be addressed but that'll

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>> be addressed in the future. I do think

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>> I think it fits better into our

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community than what was proposed before

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and I commend it.

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Anybody out on the on the residential

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side want to come up and speak? You have

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to step up to the mic and announce your

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name, please. Yep.

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So, my name is Steve Schwab and I'm a

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resident of over in Station Circle and I

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just have a just a few questions. One

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for the city is what uh and I know that

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this This isn't you don't have a plan

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yet, but something that you're going to

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have to come up with is um what you're

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going to do to the street and u to to

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accommodate the traffic that's going to

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come in from, you know, from that side.

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So, is the street going to be widened?

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Um because right now there's there's

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barely room for two cars to pass, you

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know, that at that site. So, is there

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going to be another lane of traffic, you

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know, for those, you know, for entrance

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and egress off of Station Lane? So,

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that's one concern that I have.

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Uh, is the intersection going to be

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upgraded to potentially put in a stop

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and go light at that intersection?

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And then as far as the the buildings,

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the questions that I have, are each of

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the units going to be providing two

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parking uh spaces like a two-car garage?

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And is what is going to be available

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space-wise for overflow parking? Because

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we have absolutely no space on station

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lane for for car parking. Zero. So

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that's that's the biggest concern that

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we've got. And the same thing for snow

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storage or snow removal. There's no

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place to put that on station lane. So

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that's going to have to be

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only on that on that site.

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And then you're talking about one or two

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entrances onto station lane. Did I

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misunderstand?

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>> No, that's what he stated. Yep. On top.

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>> So I don't know how two entrances or

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exits onto station lane. and they're

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right next to each other would uh would

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work. That's a really busy intersection.

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getting in and out of there. So, it

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would be best if there could just be

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one. So people coming on station lane

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aren't trying to figure out who's coming

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and who's going from two different

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locations or so it' be the the parking

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situation is one thing that uh we would

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be very concerned about

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and providing for each unit two car

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spaces.

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>> Okay.

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>> thank you Steve.

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>> Anyone else?

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per your LenM 226 Station Lane North,

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your um two family residents, according

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to your zoning code, you have to have a

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minimum of 15,000 square feet per unit.

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And I just want to know are they

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complying with that? The next thing is

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each lot is to be at least 100 feet

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wide. Are they complying with that?

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Minimum floor unit is 800 square ft per

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unit. Are they complying with that? And

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as Steve brought up

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prior to this, they always wanted a

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variance on parking spaces. the code

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still says two units, excuse me, two

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spaces per family and are they trying to

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get a variance on that? I want to know

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that if that is the case,

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>> thank you, Len.

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>> So, I think just to clarify for

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everybody here,

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>> we're not approving a site plan or any

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kind of project.

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>> I understand that. The only thing is

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changing it to a residential zoning from

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a commercial zoning. It's going to be up

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to them to comply with the zoning code

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and get any variances.

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That's further down the road. We're just

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talking about whether this is an

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appropriate use as residential versus

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commercial for this property tonight.

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Anyone else?

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name is Pat Coffee, live at 560 Summers

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Landing Road North. Um, I would like to

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say thank you for listening to the

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concerns that we've had in the past as

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far as the height and everything like

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that. That definitely is an improvement

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considering it's basically my backyard.

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And I guess the main question that we

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were going to have is just making sure

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that we're not trying to jam as many

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things as we can so that they can fit.

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But also, are these going to be rental

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or are these going to be purchase? And

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that was I guess the biggest question we

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have. Now, I know these are just the

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planning stages for the resoning, but

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just anticipating things in the future.

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>> Thank you.

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Pat. Anything

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else, sir?

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>> Yeah.

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>> Thanks.

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» Yeah. Timothy Higgins, 355 Station Lane.

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Um my wife and I have been living in the

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neighborhood for 32 years and it's been

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really nice having that as a a vacant

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wildlife piece of property um for that

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time that we've been living here. Uh

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again there's there's just a lot of

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issues with um you know questions that

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have already been asked. You know are

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these for sale? Are they rental? What is

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your price point on that? Um because

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that that puts a question mark in as to

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who's going to be moving in there. this

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question of now two entrances and exits

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uh on the uh on the same u station lane.

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Where is that first cut and the second

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cut? That's a big question I have uh on

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this situation. Um and then you know

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meeting all the codes and the fire

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safety and uh all the other issues that

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come with a a residential area. Should

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have been a residential area from the

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start when this property was first cut

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off. uh never should have been cut off

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and in my opinion should have been part

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of the same neighborhood and just had

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houses there and then we wouldn't be uh

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here for the fourth time on this issue

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uh as many as the half a dozen times

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when it became a C3. So lots of time

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being spent on something that uh really

329
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shouldn't exist anyway. Uh that's it.

330
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>> Thank you Tim.

331
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>> Yep.

332
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Anyone if I photograph this?

333
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>> Certainly.

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Anyone else?

335
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,359
One more time. Anyone else?

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Okay, that closes the open hearing,

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public hearing. We'll move on to number

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six which is the petition for the

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reszoning the 856 6 street 850 I'm sorry

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6th street north C3 industrial to RA

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limited two family residential district

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discussion of possible recommendation

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from the planning commission

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I'll entertain a motion first before we

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discuss

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move approval

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» I'll Second.

348
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>> Second.

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>> I'm sorry. Who what was the first

350
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,160
motion?

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>> Move to approve.

352
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>> Thank you. You have a second. You move

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approve.

354
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,640
>> Thank you. We have a second. Okay. Open

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discussion. Anybody?

356
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» I just would like to add I think the

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developers come a long way from the

358
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original plans we saw and the density

359
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issues and some of the big concerns for

360
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the neighborhood overall with traffic. I

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think the site plan will play out in

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future meetings and get the detail

363
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there. Uh but as far as a reasonzoning

364
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for the commercial to the uh two family,

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I think is step in the right direction.

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» Anyone else?

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» Okay, no other comments. Let's go. Do by

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hand by by name. Rand uh Rodri.

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>> Yes. Candace,

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>> yes.

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>> Tim is gone. Bill,

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>> yes.

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>> Jared,

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>> yes.

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>> Randall,

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>> yes.

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>> And Tim, yes. That passes. That moves

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forward.

379
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All right. Move on to item number two.

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I'm going to excuse myself and Candace

381
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is going to take that over for a few

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minutes. Thank you guys.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Okay, Tim is leaving.

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We have um another open public hearing conditional use permit

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application from Tim Zeiss for the North

387
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,079
Hudson Pepper from the North Hudson

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Pepper Festival, Inc. to construct a

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community center and pavilion located at

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704 Monroe Street North.

391
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Is there anyone here who wants to speak

392
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about that? Go ahead. Okay. Wait, who's

393
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,920
you're going to go first? Okay. So, just

394
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same rules, keep it to two minutes. name

395
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and where you live and

396
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,320
>> uh good evening commission. My name is

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Julian Hick, 712 Pine Street North. I'm

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here on behalf of Pepper Festival, Inc.

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Um I'm here requesting an addendum to

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our already approved conditional use

401
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permit and that would be to extend our

402
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,200
start time of the project. Uh we had

403
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some delays in the start of construct

404
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,040
construction that um several factors

405
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were involved. we needed to align with

406
00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:11,440
our building contractor um completing

407
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the construction details and

408
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:16,079
establishing funding. Um as of today,

409
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all of that has been completed. So, our

410
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intentions are to still abide by the

411
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following conditions laid out prior,

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which were the planning commission's

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conditional use permit conditions for

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approval by the village board from June

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3rd meeting of 2025.

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Um all operations shall comply within

417
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federal and state regulations, local

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ordinances, and state fire and NFPA

419
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codes. Property must pass a satisfactory

420
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fire inspection. Uh the site plan must

421
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be reviewed and approved by the planning

422
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commission for compliance with zoning

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standards, including setbacks, building

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size, and height requirements.

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Um

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parking for the building occupancy shall

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conform with municipal code 98-31C.

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Uh state approved plans must be provided

429
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to the building inspector before buing

430
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permit can be issued. Uh sign permit

431
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,119
must be issued by the building inspector

432
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prior to any sign being installed. Signs

433
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shall be in conformance with section

434
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,119
98-102

435
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,280
signs of the municipal code. Hours of

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operation must comply with the village

437
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,480
defined hours and not go beyond quiet

438
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hours. Um no residential occupancy. No

439
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,640
commercial operation unless associated

440
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,960
directly with Pepperfest nonprofit

441
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,839
organization or fundraising. Um outdoor

442
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lighting must be low light when not in

443
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,359
use. down lighting only and no tall

444
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poles or flood lights affecting

445
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,200
neighbors. An operational plan must be

446
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developed and submitted for village

447
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,359
board approval to define day-to-day use,

448
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:41,920
hours, noise control, maintenance

449
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480
responsibilities, and event handling.

450
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,599
Um, one changes that we made since the

451
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:49,040
last meeting is we are not going to have

452
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a basement anymore. Um, the size and

453
00:41:51,359 --> 00:41:53,359
appearance will be the same to mimic

454
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:56,800
that of the village hall. Um the front

455
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,640
of the building is no bigger than a

456
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normal residential home and it will be

457
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:03,520
utilized by the space that is owned by

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Pepper Festival, Inc. Um we're excited

459
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,599
to see it come true and we think it's

460
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:08,880
going to be a big asset for the North

461
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,720
Hudson community.

462
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,280
>> Okay,

463
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,839
>> any questions

464
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>> at this time?

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>> Is the topic to extend the

466
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>> Do you have to go up to the

467
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:24,319
>> Yeah.

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00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:28,870
and state your name. And

469
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» uh my name is Jenny Nickel. I live at

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706 Monroe Street. So right behind

471
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,880
Pepperfest. I just had one question. Is

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the topic to extend the cup or is it to

473
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,760
start the process over? Because I was

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under the impression that the original

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00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,520
approved cup is expired.

476
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,440
>> So the original one expired. They've

477
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applied for a new one.

478
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,680
>> Okay.

479
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,760
>> And that's why we're here tonight going

480
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,880
through that process.

481
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,800
>> Okay. I just wanted to clarify because I

482
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,720
think you use the words extend. So I

483
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:55,760
just wanted to clarify if we're

484
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,079
extending or reapproving.

485
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,240
Okay. So well since I'm here I'll just

486
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uh like I said I live at 706 so directly

487
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,800
behind Pepperfest. So we are the home

488
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,640
that would live next to the facility. Uh

489
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,560
we do have several concerns. I

490
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,800
appreciate Pepperfest bringing something

491
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,000
continuing to bring something in

492
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
community but our biggest concern is the

493
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,760
scale the size of the facility. Um the

494
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,920
last that I saw it was 4,800 square feet

495
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,880
with a capacity of 200 people. Um that

496
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is an acre lot and it is does not really

497
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,280
match the footprint um or really the

498
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,480
community of of North Hudson. So North

499
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,079
Hudson is about 3,800 people and we are

500
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:41,599
2.3 square feet miles, right? And so

501
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,520
we're looking for a dwelling that is

502
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,040
massive in size. So I will use Woodberry

503
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,640
as comparison. They are a 80,000

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00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,200
uh population with a uh 35.5 square foot

505
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,760
mile um in size and their average

506
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,880
facility is 600 to 700 square ft with a

507
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,760
capacity of 20 to 24 people. Their only

508
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,680
exception to this is they do have one

509
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,400
facility um that is a capacity of 100

510
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560
people, but it is in a park that is 90

511
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,079
acres in size. Um, you guys probably may

512
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:17,440
say, "Well, that's Woodbury, that's

513
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,359
Minnesota." Uh, when you look at our

514
00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:20,960
neighboring Town River Falls, it's a

515
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,040
very similar story. They are a

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00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,000
population of over 16,7.19

517
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,119
miles. And at, uh, Glenn Park, which is

518
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,760
their largest rental facility. It does

519
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,400
have a capacity of about 200 people. Um,

520
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,680
but it is also in a 40 over a 40 acre

521
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,359
part park, excuse me. Um, and the square

522
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:42,800
I couldn't find the square footage, but

523
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,280
the square footage appears to be smaller

524
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,520
than what Pepper Fest is proposing on a

525
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:54,160
one um, acre lot. So, it's just it's the scale. It's the size. Um,

526
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,599
obviously noise, maintenance,

527
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,280
lighting. I know you guys say down

528
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,800
lighting or whatever it's called. It's

529
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,160
still lighting. Um, and the traffic is a

530
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,720
major concern and parking. I have two

531
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:09,760
children. We live on Monroe. Uh my

532
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,359
children walk up and down that street to

533
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:14,880
and from school activities. Um that

534
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,280
street is already very very busy. And

535
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,800
with the closure of Holton, that street

536
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,040
is only going to get busier. Um because

537
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,839
now we're increasing the traffic that is

538
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:26,240
moving up and down that Monroe Street.

539
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:28,800
And um also with the school

540
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,079
construction, uh it is it organically

541
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,880
drives all the traffic up Monroe to

542
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,520
school pickup and drop off. Um, so there

543
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,440
is a major concern with safety and like

544
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,400
I said, parking is an issue. Um, there

545
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,400
are concerns of what is currently there,

546
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,560
which is an empty lot and it being

547
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,640
maintained appropriately and then now

548
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,079
we're talking about a 4,000 square foot

549
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,720
plus building, a capacity of 200 people

550
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,359
and really being used at will. Right?

551
00:45:57,359 --> 00:45:59,040
What's being proposed is I could say

552
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Pepperfest, I'm going to donate 50 bucks

553
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,839
to you as a nonprofit and I'm going to

554
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:07,040
throw a wedding here. Right? Um, so it's

555
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,560
just again it's the scale, the capacity,

556
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,880
it it just does not match the landscape

557
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,680
of our community, of the neighborhood.

558
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,400
Um, it's just it's much much too large.

559
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,760
>> Thank you.

560
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:31,030
>> Anyone else?

561
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,240
My name is Jessica Layman and I live at

562
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,599
705 St. Croy Street North. Um, and I've

563
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,440
lived in this residential community for

564
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,920
12 years and chose this location because

565
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,920
of its because of its quiet character

566
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,319
and residential setting. I believe it is

567
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:48,079
important that surrounding development

568
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:49,839
remain compatible with the existing

569
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:52,000
neighborhood. I'm asking the plan

570
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,599
commission to carefully consider the

571
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,079
size and scale of the proposed event

572
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:59,040
center. The proposed building is

573
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,440
substantial in size and I would and I

574
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,440
would encourage consideration of

575
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,920
reducing its overall size to make it

576
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,319
more combat compatible with the

577
00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:10,640
surrounding residential neighborhood and

578
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,119
minimize its visual and operational

579
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:17,520
impacts on nearby residents.

580
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,200
I also request that additional

581
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,319
landscaping, trees, fencing, or other

582
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:24,880
appropriate screening be required along

583
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,880
property lines adjacent to residential

584
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,599
homes. Effective screening would provide

585
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,319
a visual buffer and help pre preserve

586
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:35,680
the residential character of the area.

587
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,839
Noise is another concern. The facility

588
00:47:37,839 --> 00:47:40,240
should incorporate appropriate noise

589
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:42,240
reduction measures such as sound

590
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,800
insulation, strate strategic placement

591
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,680
of equipment and outdoor activity areas

592
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,079
and reasonable operational limitations

593
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:53,200
to minimize noise impacts on neighboring

594
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,880
properties.

595
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,119
Um, I would also like clarification

596
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,280
regarding the use of village owned

597
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,200
property to meet Pepperfest parking

598
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,400
needs. Um if public property is being

599
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,880
used to support the operation of the

600
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,359
proposed facility,

601
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:11,280
uh residents and the plan commission

602
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,720
should understand the terms of that

603
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:16,640
arrangement. Um how it's how its use has

604
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,560
been authorized and what the long-term

605
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,960
expectations are. I also have conf

606
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,119
I also have concerns about who will be

607
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,680
responsible for main maintaining the

608
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,240
event center and surrounding property.

609
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,400
who who is going to be responsible for

610
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,720
routine maintenance, landscaping, snow

611
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,599
removal, parking areas, property upkeep,

612
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,280
and addressing any issues that may

613
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,680
arise. It would also be helpful to have

614
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,319
clear expectations regarding the ongoing

615
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:45,839
maintenance and appearance of the

616
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:47,839
property so that neighboring residents

617
00:48:47,839 --> 00:48:50,720
are not negatively affected.

618
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:53,359
Um, the purpose of a conditional use

619
00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:55,680
permit is to ensure that a proposed use

620
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,000
can operate in a manner that protects

621
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,480
neighboring properties and maintains the

622
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,400
character of the community. I

623
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,559
respectfully ask the plan commission to

624
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:07,200
carefully evaluate these concerns and

625
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,200
consider including conditions that

626
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,559
adequately adequately address the size,

627
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:15,119
screening, noise, parking, and overall

628
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,280
impact on the surrounding residential

629
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,400
neighborhood.

630
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,480
>> Thank you.

631
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:32,150
>> Anyone else?

632
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,720
» Uh, I'm Roger Beavers, 419 Merchock

633
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,040
Circle North. Um, I have lived in North

634
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,599
Hudson since 1975, and as you can tell

635
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:42,160
by my white hair, it's been a long time.

636
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Um, I appreciate your service on the

637
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,800
commission and I I follow the North

638
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,079
Hudson issues quite on a normal basis.

639
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,800
Um, throughout my career as a business

640
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,880
owner in the community and a resident

641
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,800
here, I've been involved in a lot of

642
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,720
nonprofits throughout my years. Um,

643
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,400
the community center being proposed is

644
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,119
going to fill a great void that we need

645
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:11,760
in our community. uh with a number of

646
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,880
nonprofits that we have, most of them

647
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,200
have just a single office where they

648
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,920
have no place to have a a good meeting

649
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,079
for their volunteers or their board of

650
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:24,800
directors. And most of your board of

651
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,400
directors in the history that I have

652
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,839
been involved with the nonprofits and

653
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:29,839
I've been involved with a lot of United

654
00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:33,920
Way, Rotary, Lions, uh FIPS, um Hudson

655
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Backpack, Operation Help, and also North

656
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,119
Hudson Pepperfest.

657
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:40,960
Most your board of directors have 8 to

658
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,520
10 people and their volunteers, you

659
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,440
know, show up for their meetings. So,

660
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,960
you're not going to have the congestion

661
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,640
of it that you're thinking. Yes, there

662
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,400
may be some private events every now and

663
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,800
then, but I don't believe it's going to

664
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,920
have that big of an impact on the area

665
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,280
right around it. The Pepperfest donates

666
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,960
a lot of money every year to nonprofits

667
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,280
to keep them going. And this is kind of

668
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,880
a a situation where the nonprofits can

669
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,440
come back and and help the Pepperfest in

670
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:19,200
use utilizing this community center. The volunteers that the Pepperfest has

671
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,880
are very dedicated people. And you talk

672
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,359
about the maintenance and the repairs

673
00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:29,680
and the running of that community center. I have no doubt

674
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,520
because the vocations of those

675
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,240
volunteers are very very professional

676
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:37,680
and educated people and they know how to

677
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,160
maintain a community center. Thank you.

678
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,910
>> Thank you.

679
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,390
» Would anyone else like to say anything?

680
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,920
» Anyone else want to comment

681
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,079
and

682
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:57,920
speak now or forever hold your peace?

683
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,630
One more time. Anyone else?

684
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:09,109
» We need to have you go up to the

685
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,440
» I'm Kenny Hills. I live in 791 Lson

686
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,599
Lane. I live in the township, but my

687
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,000
friends all live in this community and I

688
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,920
was thinking about moving here in this

689
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,640
immediate area. But I'm thinking I don't

690
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,800
want to live here with all this traffic.

691
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,720
If there's a building for 200 people

692
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,960
here, how many volunteers do you

693
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,280
actually have? You say so you can meet

694
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,960
as volunteers. Isn't 40 pe 40 person

695
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,280
building big enough? It's supposed to be

696
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,920
a community center, not an industrial

697
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,200
event center. And the occasional event,

698
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,599
that's an event. Pepperfest has one

699
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:50,160
event a year and that's Pepperfest.

700
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,079
40 people for a community center is

701
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:54,559
plenty big enough for this. It's plenty

702
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,000
big enough for the pensioners to go and

703
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,599
meet. It's plenty big enough for the

704
00:52:57,599 --> 00:52:59,359
scouts to go and use, but they use the

705
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:01,760
gun club right now. So, there are other

706
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,680
options for people to go and meet if

707
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,640
they want to as nonprofit.

708
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,280
200 people building

709
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,800
kind of a bit of an insult to the people

710
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,960
that live around it. And to say that it

711
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,480
won't impact them, it will.

712
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,680
That's all I got to say. Okay.

713
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,000
Thank you for your comments. Anybody

714
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:36,309
else? Would you like to go ahead?

715
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:39,839
I'm James Beo. I live at 4046 Street

716
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:43,599
North, right across the street.

717
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,319
your Pepper Fest property would end

718
00:53:46,319 --> 00:53:49,920
right well trapped in my property

719
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,960
>> and I've been with the Pepper Fest for

720
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,920
45 50 years

721
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,599
and I don't have any problem with

722
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,359
Pepperfest.

723
00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:02,559
I mean true when pepper fest is here you

724
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:04,880
have more people but you're not going to

725
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,839
have that magnitude of people every week

726
00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:12,079
and I don't know if you may have seen

727
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,359
the proposed building that you're

728
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:17,920
proposing to put there

729
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,760
I think it's going to be a big asset to

730
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,200
the community from what from what we

731
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,880
have

732
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,359
from what I understand the parking that

733
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:32,400
across the street are going to be paved

734
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,599
for excess parking instead of on street

735
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:38,000
parking.

736
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,480
So, I myself I'm in favor of I think

737
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,640
it's going to be a big asset to the

738
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,599
community. Like I say, I live my

739
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,160
property lives right next door and I

740
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,079
deal with them all the time.

741
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:56,960
So that's my viewing on it.

742
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,069
>> Thank you. Thank you.

743
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:05,589
» Anyone else?

744
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:11,589
» Okay.

745
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,240
» Hi, my name is Eric Dubois, 710 Monroe

746
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:16,960
Street North. Um, I just wanted to add

747
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,599
uh with regards to the parking,

748
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:21,440
I believe that the parking area

749
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,800
available for the site should reflect

750
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,559
the size of the the building and the

751
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:29,119
occupancy of the building because there

752
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,839
is going to be overflow parking onto

753
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:34,800
Monroe Street or all of these other

754
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,640
streets. Um when you come around that

755
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,559
stoplight, come around the corner from

756
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:41,440
that stoplight trying to get across um

757
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,680
say if you're coming south and you take

758
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,319
a left on Monroe Street when there is

759
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:50,240
a lot of things going on there, that can

760
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:53,920
be a very uh busy intersection. So

761
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,200
putting a building right on the corner

762
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,920
of that with people entering and exiting

763
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,160
right at the front there and parking on

764
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,599
the street would just make that a little

765
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:03,359
bit more busy. I just wanted everybody

766
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:05,680
to take that in consideration. Thank

767
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,079
you.

768
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,160
>> Thank you.

769
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:24,150
I will.

770
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,640
» Hi, I'm Annette Kenny and I live at four

771
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,079
five 410 6th Street North and I have

772
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,799
lived in North Hudson my whole life. So,

773
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:36,720
I know the the beginning of Pepperfest

774
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,240
because my family was some of the

775
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:42,079
originators and I do agree with having

776
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,040
an appropriate size community center.

777
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200
But the rumors we have been hearing is

778
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,760
that they want to really try to make it

779
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,040
a wedding venue. And that makes us

780
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,520
nervous because my sister's one of her

781
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,119
properties has the old Sam's parking lot

782
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:01,280
which during Pepperfest we notice a lot

783
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,680
of people driving into their private

784
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,040
property leaving garbage and that would

785
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,200
be another major concern for our family

786
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,400
to have to monitor their property, their

787
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,400
private property, their insurance and

788
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,040
everything. and we just want to have the

789
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
respect of the neighborhood and with

790
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,520
oncoming in people that don't respect

791
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,920
our community is our biggest issue.

792
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,920
Thank you.

793
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,069
>> Thank you.

794
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,720
» Anyone else? Flying your

795
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,880
>> Anyone else?

796
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,280
Third time. Anyone would like to speak?

797
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,040
>> Okay, before I close it, I have a

798
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,000
question. Before

799
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,040
we close public hearing, can we have

800
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,799
somebody address some of these questions

801
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:53,040
or do I close it and then we do that? Is

802
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,119
there someone here to address? Yes.

803
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:56,880
Should we do that now or close it?

804
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,839
>> I would close your public hearing.

805
00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:00,799
>> All right. So,

806
00:58:00,799 --> 00:58:02,480
>> the board has questions for the

807
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,119
applicant.

808
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:04,880
>> Okay, perfect.

809
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,319
>> So, I'm going to close the public

810
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:07,920
hearing. Um,

811
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,280
>> motion to close.

812
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,559
>> Thank you. Second.

813
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:11,680
>> We don't even need a motion. We don't

814
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,559
need We don't need You can just

815
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,680
closing it. And then now is the time for

816
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,640
the conditional use permit application

817
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,480
discussion and possible recommendation.

818
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,079
So

819
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:28,319
do we have discussion and questions and

820
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:30,000
things that could be

821
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:30,559
>> question

822
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:31,520
>> addressed? Yes.

823
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,119
>> Um

824
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:36,559
>> how many parking spaces in the proposed

825
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:40,390
pave lot?

826
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,240
» It was 45 or 42

827
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,510
>> around that. Yeah,

828
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,760
» that's not counting the handicap.

829
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,720
>> Oh, yeah. Sorry.

830
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,200
>> About 42 45 not including handicap

831
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:58,799
spots. I think we have about five

832
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:00,720
handicap spots that are proposed to the

833
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,079
front of the building.

834
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:06,000
>> And I don't I'm not I don't I'm not

835
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,839
familiar with the parking around here,

836
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:10,160
but what do you estimate on street

837
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,880
parking available?

838
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,920
Um like we we

839
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,400
said overflow if needed. Um that's going

840
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,520
to be once in a blue moon. Um this we're

841
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,200
thinking more of this building being

842
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,440
utilized for clubs, you know, after

843
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,559
school after work, you know, hobbyist

844
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,960
airplane groups meets when the church

845
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,040
group meets when, you know, it's not

846
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,240
going to be during school hours. So the building is going to be more

847
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:40,160
utilized after hours, you know, so

848
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,640
traffic isn't really a concern and we're

849
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,319
not talking about multiple multiple

850
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:46,079
people. It's just little groups here and

851
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,680
there that are going to be using it. Um

852
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,200
even when the seniors meet say during

853
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,119
the day during a school day, I don't see

854
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:52,720
why they can't fill up the parking lot

855
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,640
over here. Um I don't think there's that

856
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,200
many in that group. So

857
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,760
>> how about um who has access to the

858
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,960
building outside of Pepperfest itself?

859
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,359
who will be allowed to use it. Have you

860
01:00:07,359 --> 01:00:08,240
worked that out?

861
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,559
>> We have not. I'm I'm sure the commission

862
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:12,079
has worked that out. The people that are

863
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:14,559
working on this, um we have probably

864
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:17,040
going to allow some public access for

865
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,559
the uh public works guys, um village

866
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:22,240
workers,

867
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,680
not quite certain on that, but

868
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,599
Pepperfest board in general will be the

869
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:27,440
ones providing maintenance and

870
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,630
operation.

871
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,480
So it will be so you won't hire say a

872
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,119
management company or one person who

873
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,720
always is on site with the key or

874
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,640
>> I mean you're just going to rely on your

875
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,400
Pepperfest board members to be

876
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,400
>> we we can hire a management company if

877
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,720
needed or somebody that is is is hired

878
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,960
on our behalf that comes in and and

879
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,000
upkeeps the building. Um

880
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,359
>> that's definitely a possibility.

881
01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:55,920
>> Okay.

882
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,440
>> Something that has been talked about.

883
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,480
So, the size of the building is what? I

884
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,839
mean, can we just clarify that?

885
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:04,799
>> It's 50 by 100 or a little less than

886
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:05,119
that.

887
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:06,960
>> Okay. So, how many square feet?

888
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,319
>> Uh, about 5,000.

889
01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:10,640
>> About 5,000. And if it's going to be

890
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,240
used,

891
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,920
you're thinking outside of Pepperfest by

892
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,240
smaller groups, say seniors, board

893
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,599
meetings, different things like that.

894
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:24,799
Why 5,000 square feet?

895
01:01:24,799 --> 01:01:27,440
Uh because it it doesn't cost anything

896
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,880
extra for us to do it. If we're going to

897
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,319
put up a building, we might as well

898
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:35,280
utilize the space that we have. Um it's like saying, "Let's put in some

899
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,799
power, but then later on down the road,

900
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:38,799
you don't have enough power." You know,

901
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:40,400
there's always the option in the future

902
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,000
to be able to use that space if needed.

903
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,040
Um but I think that's the concern. I

904
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,520
think the larger it is, the neighbors

905
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,799
are concerned that it will become

906
01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:55,599
a venue of some sort because venue space

907
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:58,880
in this area for wedding receptions or

908
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,280
different whatever you for 200 people

909
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,960
are we don't have a lot. So if this big

910
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,200
building is here, word will get out and

911
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,760
people will come to throw large events

912
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,000
there. I I don't believe that's the

913
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,520
intention at all. Honestly, it's there's

914
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,119
many places there's many venues around

915
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:20,720
here that people would go to that are

916
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,760
more aesthetic for wedding pictures and

917
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,760
for that kind of thing. That's not what

918
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,520
this building is really built for. Could

919
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,200
you have a smaller scale wedding there?

920
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,119
Sure. You know, but that's not what the

921
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:34,880
initial

922
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,920
reason for it to be.

923
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,839
>> So, those requests would be turned down,

924
01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:39,040
I guess. And you're because you're just

925
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,119
trying to keep smaller group. No, we're

926
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:41,839
not going to say they're going to be

927
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:43,760
turned down. We're just saying the

928
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,760
building is going to be built to look

929
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,520
like the village hall, to look like a

930
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,000
house, to look residential. It's not a

931
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,839
wedding venue, per se. Would somebody

932
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:54,079
want to hold a grad party there? Maybe.

933
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,000
Um, would we turn them down? It depends

934
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,799
on the scenario. Um,

935
01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:00,799
it's not built to be an event center,

936
01:03:00,799 --> 01:03:03,520
per se. And I think that's what um the

937
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,839
fear in the public is right now is that

938
01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:07,760
we want it to be a wedding event center.

939
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,480
That's not why we're building it. It's a

940
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,040
community center.

941
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,880
>> Okay.

942
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,000
>> So, you took away the basement.

943
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,119
>> Yes.

944
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,039
>> For what reasons was that? Like,

945
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,039
wouldn't that be used as storage for

946
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:26,160
these set on for your own group? The

947
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,799
pepperfest, wouldn't we also use storage

948
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:30,400
for some of these said groups, Girl

949
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,599
Scouts, Boy Scouts, hobbyists? It's the

950
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:35,839
cost for us. Um, so we had this planned

951
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:37,839
out. We went to many different builders

952
01:03:37,839 --> 01:03:40,480
and the cost is just astronomical to put

953
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,839
in a basement. Um, it would be nice, but

954
01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:45,280
it's it's just not in the cards for us

955
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:46,319
right now.

956
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:48,240
>> Size down the square footage, would then

957
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,640
you be able to afford that, appease the

958
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,280
community in size and be able to have

959
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,880
more of a functional building that you

960
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,000
originally planned? Again,

961
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,480
>> as an option, costwise, it's really not

962
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,880
going to make much of a difference if we

963
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,720
downsized

964
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,599
>> the the correct above ground versus

965
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:12,960
below ground, right?

966
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,280
>> So, is the primary reason to maximize

967
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,839
the square footage probably really a a

968
01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:20,319
benefit for during Pepperfest where you

969
01:04:20,319 --> 01:04:23,839
have it for bingo or activities, food

970
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:25,119
services or something?

971
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:28,880
>> Yes. Yep. I would say so.

972
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,640
>> Uh just to clarify too on the parking

973
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,359
plan, I count 29 spots on the plan

974
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:35,520
that's under consideration for approval

975
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,599
across the street

976
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:40,079
as far as the count in there, not 40

977
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:45,039
some 29 I show on we have upgraded. Um I

978
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:46,960
believe last month there was a meeting

979
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,400
here where there was a presentation. Um

980
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,640
the design is still out there to

981
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,520
possibly update that. I think the

982
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,000
current number is about in the 40s. So,

983
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:03,750
>> okay. So, the one that were Okay.

984
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,039
» Are there any other questions from the

985
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:10,789
committee?

986
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:13,680
» So, we're just doing the

987
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:14,240
>> conditional

988
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,079
>> cut. So,

989
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:18,000
>> other things will be addressed.

990
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,319
>> So, and I was going to get to that.

991
01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:23,359
>> Okay. So, the previous conditional use

992
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:26,000
permit had a list of conditions that

993
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,400
were approved and those include coming

994
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,799
back to the board for an operational

995
01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:33,039
plan to talk about how they're going to

996
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:34,480
handle events, how they're going to

997
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,000
handle hours, how they're going to

998
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,520
handle lighting,

999
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,319
>> neighbor mitigations with landscaping

1000
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:43,839
and address those concerns. So, what I

1001
01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:46,319
would suggest is if a recommendation is

1002
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:49,760
made that you include

1003
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,520
that same list.

1004
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:51,920
>> Mhm.

1005
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,359
>> If you're going to pass it on to the

1006
01:05:53,359 --> 01:05:55,039
board.

1007
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:55,359
>> Okay.

1008
01:05:55,359 --> 01:05:57,520
>> And that's almost like a reset is what

1009
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,160
we're looking at.

1010
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,920
>> Yeah. That that's in your packet. This

1011
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:03,200
is what was approved before handled.

1012
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,640
>> You know, this is

1013
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,640
>> if they get the conditional use permit

1014
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,559
again, it's not the last step,

1015
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:10,319
>> right? that this would because there

1016
01:06:10,319 --> 01:06:12,160
still are a lot of things people are

1017
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,680
concerned about. Noise, lights, the ever

1018
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,799
popular traffic and parking. So, those

1019
01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:22,000
will be addressed though prior to

1020
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,079
maintenance, snow removal that will be

1021
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:24,720
addressed.

1022
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,480
>> That's going to be part of your I'm

1023
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,400
assuming your operational plan that has

1024
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,680
to be approved by the board.

1025
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:30,160
>> Yes.

1026
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,480
>> And that's the recommendation in here.

1027
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,480
They have to come back to the board.

1028
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,480
>> So, they go through all those details as

1029
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,039
to how they're going to operate.

1030
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:41,440
But I just want to make sure when if you

1031
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,079
decide to make a motion to move it

1032
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:48,319
forward to include in your motion these

1033
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:50,079
elements.

1034
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:50,720
>> Okay.

1035
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,559
>> Can I ask a question about the process,

1036
01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:53,920
not the project?

1037
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,640
>> We've closed the hearing though or we

1038
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:02,319
we've closed it. So, um Okay. Any other

1039
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:05,839
questions, comments to be addressed now

1040
01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:08,000
at this point from us?

1041
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,839
for clarification.

1042
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:11,760
We're essentially approving the concept

1043
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,160
of what was presented. We're not

1044
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,240
approving the particulars at all.

1045
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,880
>> Right.

1046
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,319
>> Yeah. You're you're approving a

1047
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:22,640
community center that they proposed,

1048
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,000
>> right? The details again, that's why you

1049
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,920
have the conditions to the conditional

1050
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,160
use permit that were going to be

1051
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,000
addressed and they're going to be

1052
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,640
addressed assuming that you include

1053
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,680
these at a future date that they'll have

1054
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,480
to come back with a site plan review and

1055
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,160
an operational plan review.

1056
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,839
>> Okay.

1057
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:49,359
So would we add in any of to utilize

1058
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:51,599
parking lot access across the street

1059
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:53,280
possible crosswalk? Did that go into a

1060
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,440
later one or would we add that put that

1061
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,680
in that be?

1062
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,000
>> Okay.

1063
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,920
So we have not made a motion yet.

1064
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,280
We discussed this without making a

1065
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,520
motion. Do we do we have a motion? Does

1066
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,000
anyone want to

1067
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,400
do that?

1068
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,119
>> I'll make a motion. Make a motion to

1069
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:14,960
approve the petition for the conditional

1070
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,520
use permit by Tim Zeiss doing business

1071
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,880
as North Hudson Pepper Festival, Inc. to

1072
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,400
construct a community center and

1073
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,600
pavilion located at 704 Monroe Street

1074
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,839
North.

1075
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:30,640
As uh conditions of that recommend

1076
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,679
approval, I'd like to include the staff

1077
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,480
analysis and recommendations

1078
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:38,480
uh that came with the conditional use

1079
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:41,759
permit application

1080
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:45,839
as well including the 11 bullet points

1081
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:47,839
recommended for conditions of the

1082
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:50,239
approval. Would you like me to name

1083
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:51,759
those?

1084
01:08:51,759 --> 01:08:51,920
If

1085
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,759
>> you just reference the report, I think

1086
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:54,719
you're fine.

1087
01:08:54,719 --> 01:08:57,920
>> It's also part of that report. Um, as

1088
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,000
part of the conditional use permit

1089
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,880
application,

1090
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,920
it talked about hours of operation,

1091
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,440
complying with um, building codes,

1092
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:10,960
inspections,

1093
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,319
hours of uh, commercial uses, parking,

1094
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:18,789
etc.

1095
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:20,560
» Okay.

1096
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,839
Do we have a second?

1097
01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:26,480
>> Second.

1098
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:30,080
All right. All in favor say I.

1099
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:30,719
>> I.

1100
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:31,600
I.

1101
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,400
>> Oppose. Same sign.

1102
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:41,910
>> Okay. That is closed.

1103
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:47,749
» We will move on to the final.

1104
01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:50,000
Candace, item number three on our agenda

1105
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,120
is an open public hearing for

1106
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,800
condition use application by the village

1107
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,159
of North Hudson to construct a parking

1108
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,159
lot across the street and 4017th Street

1109
01:09:58,159 --> 01:09:59,920
North.

1110
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:02,880
It is open to the public.

1111
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,400
Any comments, Gina? There you go. Thank

1112
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:10,790
you.

1113
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,360
» Hi, my name is Gina Alberty and I am the

1114
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,520
administrator. I reside at 400 7th

1115
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Street.

1116
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,199
But uh re uh representing the village

1117
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:20,960
here tonight, I wanted to give a little

1118
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,640
bit of background about kind of where

1119
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,040
this concept of a parking lot came from

1120
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,280
and then how it ties into the discussion

1121
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,600
that you all were just having. Um I'll

1122
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,679
be honest, when I came to interview here

1123
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:33,440
at the end of 2023, I was a little

1124
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:36,719
surprised that um the village hall did

1125
01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:39,600
not have a parking lot. Um really didn't

1126
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,960
even know where to park when I came in

1127
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,080
for my interview. So, I thought that was

1128
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,440
a little strange and it kind of stuck in

1129
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:45,920
my mind. And then in 2024, I witnessed

1130
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,480
my first election and I sat at my desk

1131
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,239
and I watched people play Frogger um as

1132
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:54,719
they were trying to move in and out of

1133
01:10:54,719 --> 01:10:56,400
parking spots that aren't really parking

1134
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,040
spots and how the street became super

1135
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,520
narrow and moms were walking little kids

1136
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,840
in and out of cars. And I thought, hm,

1137
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,120
note to self, that's concerning. Um, and

1138
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,520
then shortly after that, we were doing a

1139
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,760
project on Fifth Street, and we had some

1140
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,520
millings that were left over as a result

1141
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,880
of that project. And we asked if we

1142
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,360
could use those millings to kind of fill

1143
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,600
in the open vacant lot that's across the

1144
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,800
street, again, that's owned by the

1145
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,960
village, um, to see if that would kind

1146
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,760
of help in um, kind of encourage people

1147
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,320
to use that spot as a as a parking lot.

1148
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,719
Um, and it did. We we saw a lot more

1149
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:34,159
people now are using it. Certainly for

1150
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,400
elections, we're seeing that. Um, but if

1151
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,280
you looked at that now when you came in,

1152
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,120
um, those millings have kind of settled

1153
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,120
in and it's starting to look like a

1154
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,280
vacant grass lot again. Um, so I think

1155
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,960
it's discouraging people from parking

1156
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,120
over there because when it's raining

1157
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,360
there's mud and when it's snowing it's

1158
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,600
hard to it's hard to plow. Um, and other

1159
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,679
things. And so

1160
01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:58,880
um ironically I brought it to in 2024 I

1161
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,440
brought it to the um finance committee

1162
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:03,679
as an option um that I would wanted them

1163
01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:06,320
to consider um for a future for an

1164
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,320
enhancement for the village. Then in

1165
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,560
2025 Pepperfest came and started talking

1166
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,120
about the need for parking and honestly

1167
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,040
a light bulb came on in my head and I

1168
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,400
said well that seems like two community

1169
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,040
resources both needing parking. we have

1170
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,440
a vacant lot that is owned by the

1171
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:25,440
village that is across the street. Is

1172
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,760
there a way that we could come together

1173
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,199
and um allow that parking to serve both

1174
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:33,840
the village hall as well as the

1175
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,719
community center? Um so why now? Why am

1176
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:39,120
I here now? We have budgeting going on

1177
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,199
and so what I'm trying to do is get a

1178
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:44,000
feel for um if the plan commission is

1179
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,560
interested in approving a recommendation

1180
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,600
to the board to officially leverage that

1181
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,320
vacant lot as a parking lot um so that

1182
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,560
we can start to plan for that start to

1183
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,840
get budgetary numbers um start to have I

1184
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,120
think more structured plans obviously um

1185
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,280
we would do so in a way that we would

1186
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,880
not want to jeopardize any of the houses

1187
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,400
that are along there obviously water

1188
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,480
flow would be taken into consideration.

1189
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:10,880
Cedar Corps would do a full plan for us

1190
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,320
that would address all of those issues

1191
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,159
and concerns. We certainly would not

1192
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:16,080
want to add any issues to any of the

1193
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:22,320
neighboring houses, but um so yep, the idea here is um try to get a fuel

1194
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:23,520
for the plan commission if this is

1195
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,880
something you're interested in pursuing

1196
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,360
so we could potentially take it forward

1197
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,520
for financial um next steps and then

1198
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,000
approval from the board.

1199
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,040
>> Thank you, Gina.

1200
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,719
>> Any other questions for me? Any

1201
01:13:36,719 --> 01:13:37,360
questions?

1202
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,640
>> I guess I have a question. So, we're

1203
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,840
talking about the finance part of it and

1204
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,400
I know that we talked about this new

1205
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,880
Pepperfest place, but it's also kind of

1206
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,840
directly related to that. Is Pepperfest

1207
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,320
going to be financially on hook for any

1208
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,679
of this? Are they supporting? Are they

1209
01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:55,520
putting money to what percentage do we

1210
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,000
know?

1211
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,840
>> Yeah. So, that is a great question. So

1212
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,480
what my thoughts were is that if this is

1213
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:02,480
something that the that you guys would

1214
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:04,080
recommend moving forward with and the

1215
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,360
board were to approve that, we would go

1216
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,000
and get an estimate, a cost estimate um

1217
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,920
to figure out what it would cost to do

1218
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,800
that. And yes, the intention is um we

1219
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,120
have we can take as the village we can

1220
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:21,679
take donations from the the public, from

1221
01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:23,600
nonprofits, from anybody within the

1222
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,760
village. So the thought or the idea yes

1223
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,320
is that the pepper fest we would come up

1224
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,320
with some agreement on what portion they

1225
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,239
pay for what p portion the village pays

1226
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:34,400
for and they would make a donation of

1227
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,040
agreed upon at that time price to help

1228
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,400
contribute to the building of that.

1229
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:38,880
>> Thank you.

1230
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,239
>> Yeah.

1231
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:42,960
>> Could you clarify how many stalls are to

1232
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,080
be

1233
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,120
>> Yeah. I know that um I think the initial

1234
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,480
plans had 28ish

1235
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:53,440
um outlined. I know that there was some

1236
01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,679
um recent work done to kind of maximize

1237
01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:59,120
that. Um I have not officially kind of

1238
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,880
looked at those. I think the goal would

1239
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,520
be to get as many stalls in there as

1240
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,600
possible without having negative impact

1241
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,360
to the properties around it. Um but

1242
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,800
minimum 28 I would say um probably

1243
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,120
closer to mid-30s if possible. I think

1244
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,880
that would come with the design too and

1245
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,400
I would look for our engineers to help

1246
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,480
us decide what is the right amount and

1247
01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:22,080
the safe amount. Right.

1248
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:22,640
>> Thanks.

1249
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,360
>> Yeah.

1250
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,000
>> Anyone else?

1251
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,600
>> I can step aside if

1252
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,920
>> anyone else

1253
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:34,149
ramp

1254
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:35,040
you want me to go back.

1255
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,560
>> Yep. Yep.

1256
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:42,229
>> Same old Yep.

1257
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:45,600
» 706 mineral. Uh I appreciate that you

1258
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,840
guys are trying to find a solution for

1259
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,120
on street parking in front of the

1260
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,800
village cuz you guys are right like when

1261
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,520
it's voting time it is very congested on

1262
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,880
this front street. So you guys are

1263
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,280
trying to find a solution that makes

1264
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,640
sense um to get to minimize right to

1265
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,960
reduce to eliminate on street parking

1266
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,400
but then in the previous conversation on

1267
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,920
street parking is the solution for

1268
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,000
overflow. So, it is it's frustrating as

1269
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,679
a resident to hear that, right? When

1270
01:16:11,679 --> 01:16:14,080
it's you're hearing a proposal that is

1271
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,360
really trying to help solve an issue,

1272
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,719
but then in a different proposal, it's

1273
01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:23,360
the solution, right? So, that's what my

1274
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,159
comment is.

1275
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:30,390
>> Thank you, Jenny.

1276
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:36,640
Anyone else?

1277
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,480
And finally, anyone else? With that, I'm

1278
01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:40,480
going to close the public hearing and

1279
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:41,760
open up the public hearing condition

1280
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,120
used from application by the visual

1281
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,800
north to construct a park line across

1282
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,679
the uh 401 7th Street North.

1283
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:51,360
With that, I entertain the committee. Uh

1284
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,120
any type of motion and discussion.

1285
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,080
>> So move.

1286
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:58,800
>> Is there a second?

1287
01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,920
>> I will second.

1288
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:04,080
>> Thank you. Any discussion?

1289
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,040
Obviously,

1290
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,320
intentions I think are, you know,

1291
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,560
there's two twofold here as we had for

1292
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,719
the past two discussions here. Um,

1293
01:17:14,719 --> 01:17:16,560
and obviously we're work closely with

1294
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,159
the neighbors to make sure the runoff is

1295
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:21,040
appropriate uh underground drainage and

1296
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,239
everything to make sure it goes through

1297
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:24,239
the appropriate uh direction for any

1298
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:27,199
flow of water on this.

1299
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:29,600
That's been discussed and um

1300
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,000
>> possible fences for headlamps going into

1301
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,159
their house. There will be directional

1302
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,480
type activities and that that final

1303
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:38,000
stuff there. I'm not sure how that

1304
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,280
>> I didn't know if that ever came up or

1305
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:39,520
anything.

1306
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,120
>> Yeah. No, it didn't.

1307
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,360
>> Um,

1308
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,840
>> but I think it's an alternative. Yep.

1309
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,480
>> So during Pepperfest, will that parking

1310
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:51,120
lot be a parking lot or will it be a

1311
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,000
>> that that uh that again we won't Yeah.

1312
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:55,120
We're not sure what's going to happen

1313
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,760
during that period of time. Yep.

1314
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,679
>> Festival adapts to what it can do. you

1315
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:02,159
know what it's going to do

1316
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:04,320
during that, you know, activity. But I I

1317
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,920
think it's it's a win-win for both sides

1318
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,199
of it. And I think there, you know,

1319
01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:08,560
potentially we know there'll be an

1320
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,640
agreement between funding some of this

1321
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,199
and we just have to work make it work work all that out. So

1322
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:16,880
>> I just would like to make sure that if

1323
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,480
we're approving it that we're also

1324
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,440
approving a perpetual parking agreement

1325
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:22,719
with Pepperfest.

1326
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:24,480
>> I agree. I'd put that a condition

1327
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:26,880
>> that we have a minimum of 28 parks there

1328
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,960
available to the public.

1329
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,239
Yeah, there's been discussions of

1330
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:32,880
angling the parking and having one way

1331
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,560
in, one way out, okay,

1332
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,640
>> which increases it to like 30 some plus,

1333
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,400
but of course we work with Cedar Corp to

1334
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:39,679
talk more about that.

1335
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:40,400
>> Okay,

1336
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,239
>> but uh I would do I definitely add that

1337
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,719
condition on there that Pepperfest is

1338
01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:48,880
you know part of that. So

1339
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,640
anything else or that you know the

1340
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,080
overall agreement and so forth going

1341
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,040
forward? Yes.

1342
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,640
>> Right.

1343
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,480
>> Anything else?

1344
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,480
All in favor say I. I I

1345
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:02,400
>> I oppose. Same sign that approves. Thank

1346
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,560
you.

1347
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,320
Okay. Item number 15 is routine

1348
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:07,920
business. Any other routine business for

1349
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,960
the commission to discuss?

1350
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,800
Item number 16 adjourned. I appreciate

1351
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,400
everyone for coming tonight and

1352
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,800
definitely you're