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I aliance to the flag
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and for it standsation

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indivisibley
for all

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» like to welcome everybody this morning.
Uh do we have approval of the agenda?

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» So move second. All in favor? I
>> uh do we have approval of the minutes

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from the January 12th, 2026 meeting?
So moved.

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» I'll second.
>> All in favor?

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The uh
business here is the zoning variance

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request uh pub subdivision lots 37 and
38.

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Um, just to refresh, we had a public
hearing on Monday and

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everybody kind of wanted to do some
research. So, we

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decided to meet here again and uh here
we are.

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Uh,
we have one we have one letter that has

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been submitted again
and uh

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» it's a different letter. or it's a it's
a different letter.

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And you want me to read that now,
Andrew?

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» Uh, we can open the public hearing. We
can reopen the public hearing.

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» Let's do that. Um, if I can get a
motion, reopen the public hearing.

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» So move.
>> Second. All in favor?

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» I public hearing is now open. Uh,
before I read the letter, does anybody

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have any comment out here?
I went home and started thinking I I

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chewed on the meeting things that I said
and I was a little nervous and not as

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prepared as I would have liked to do.
One of the things that I thought maybe

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wasn't made clear
by me was that while we have 90 students

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enrolled in Lifewise Academy, we take
one class at a time. So, at the very

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most in any given class day, we would
only have at the very most at 100%

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enrollment 25 kids at one time. So, I
don't know if I made that clear or not.

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And I wanted to make sure to clarify
that for everybody.

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That's all.
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» And and Lifewise isn't busing in extra
students. This is students that are

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already in our school corporation. there
there's no extra transportation, no

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extra cars, no extra parents dropping
off. This is kids that are already

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enrolled north and San Pier School
Corporation that are on campus.

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» And as as you pointed out Monday, we are
parent permitted. The students that come

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can only come when their parents permit
them and sign a release for them to

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come. And we're privately funded. And we
are a non-denominational

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group. We are strictly teaching the
Bible which I know has nothing to do

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>> comment on things from the last meeting.

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» Absolutely.
>> So, um that's just so everybody's clear.

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Kathy said this before, but the students
come in after the buses drop them up.

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So, there's no extra traffic during bus
drop off and pick up before and after

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school. Also, I see there could be four
houses on that property. So people that

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were concerned about traffic, four
houses will bring much more traffic

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probably than
two teachers and two or three volunteers

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would come to that
place during the day. More traffic, more

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cars.
Just I just thought of that point after

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and that's what it will be then if this
doesn't happen outous.

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I'd like to have a comment too. I
thought about this and it wasn't

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mentioned at the last meeting that uh
Russie Curs was approached and I liked

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property rights. I own property in Star
County and I I'm a firm believer in

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property rights. Rusty elected to sell
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this property with the mindset of what
was going on. He he approved as a

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property owner. And uh we we never
brought that last meeting either.

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» So would Rusty if if this did not go
through would Rusty sell the property

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over development for houses?
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Okay.
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we just received one,
you know, one letter in time

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has passed. Uh,
and I will read that now.

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Dear members of the BZA, after viewing
the initial meeting meeting via live

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stream, we were left with more questions
than answers regarding his proposal. We

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are writing to formally state our
opposition to the construction of the

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Likewise Academy building on the field
directly across from our home. While we

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welcome responsible development within
the town, we believe that this facility

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would be more appropriately located
elsewhere. To be clear, we do not oppose

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Lifewise as a program. We understand and
respect that the students are currently

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permitted to participate during school
hours and we have no objections to

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families choosing that option. Our
concern is specifically with the

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proposed permanent structure and its
placement within a residential

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neighborhood.
The field in question has historically

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been farmland and is surrounded by
homes. All existing businesses and

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organizational facilities in North Jud
are located on designated commercial or

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mixeduse streets, not within residential
neighborhood. Most being on State Road

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10. Allowing a permanent organizational
building in this location would

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significantly alter the character of the
area and set a precedent for future

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non-residential development in
established neighborhoods. Additionally,

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while the proposed building has been
described as approximately 900 to,000

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square ft, it was also stated that the
structure could be expanded in the

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future. This raises concerns that what
is being presented as a smallcale

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project could be eventually grown into
something much larger with increased

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traffic activity and long-term impact on
nearby homeowners. Another concern is

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the lack of clarity surrounding the
project details. During discussion, the

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representative indicated that they do
not yet know where on the field the

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building would be placed, whether on the
east side Vision Street or in the center

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of the property.
This uncertainty makes it difficult for

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residents to properly understand or
evaluate the full impact of the proposal

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and suggests that key details remain
undecided. It also appears that there

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are multiple alternative locations
within the town that would be more

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appropriate and practical for this type
facility rather than placing it in a

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residential neighborhood. For example,
areas such as corner of this drive in

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the state road town, the grassy area
near Railroad Street and Cincinnati

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Street behind the superintendent's
office between that building and

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softball field near the corner of 500
West of State Road 10. Several of these

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locations would allow students to walk
directly to the facility, eliminating

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the need for bus transportation. This
would reduce additional traffic fuel

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comp.

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For these reasons, we respectfully
request that this project not be

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approved for construction on this
residential property. We believe

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facilities of this type of more approp
are more appropriately placed in areas

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already intended for institutional or
commercial use rather than directly

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across from family home. Thank you for
your time and consideration. We

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appreciate the opportunity to share our
concerns and hope they will be carefully

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considered before any decisions are
made. Sincerely, Kenzie and Quinn and

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Scotty 6221 South.

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» They submitted a letter.
So that's second person.

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any comments regarding this letter?
>> No, pretty straightforward.

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» Appreciate some questions.

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Be across from somebody's house.
I would ask those those people, are they

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offended by me farming one acre of brown
zoned residential and I'm agricultural?

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And I have the same question. Am I
unwelcome there with my farm trackers

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which weigh 25 tons on the city streets.

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» I just Yeah. No, I go you understand my
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John Jerry is
do you guys know which way the front of

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the building would face now since the
last meeting or

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» preference would be that it would be
facing Campbell um for visibility.

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Yeah.
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step this property. Um,
when I was hired as the director over

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the summer, I was driving through the
whole town and looking to see what

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property would make the most sense. And
this is the property I landed on. Um,

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turns out I'm not the only one or the
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this is our very first step. We don't

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even have have our plans drawn up yet
because first we needed to know, do we

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even have an option of a place to build?
But I've had conversations with the man

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uh who headed up the project at West
Central. I talked to him this week and

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he gave me a few of his insights and
thoughts. One of the things also about

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all of the lifewise structures that I'm
aware of that I've looked at are built

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in residential areas as close to the
school as possible. And we do have to be

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within a 5 minute drive to the schools
because of our timeline. We don't have

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time to transport the kids anymore.
So, um, that's a long long answer to

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your short question, but do you have any
other questions for

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» and if we divided the lot, if the lot
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lot, which we probably wouldn't need to,
our preference would be the east side,

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the ones the one closest to the school.

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» Go ahead.
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students being able to walk to the on
bad snowy days or rainy days, that's not

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feasible. You know, we don't want to
have to walk kids and downs to a

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building
>> and they're coming from the elementary.

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So that
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» It's a 25minute walk
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property. Correct.
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» Because I think a couple of those that
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property.
>> Right. We cannot build behind the

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superintendent so that it seems as
though that would be really

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» Yeah,
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mentioned it's either going to be Cory's
property or it's going to be town

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property.
>> I was going to say I thought somebody

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who's got property
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[laughter]

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other people.
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the time frame because we're already on
town and it's just

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so long. That that's the
that's the that's the key right there.

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If I could just say something, go ahead.
I mean, this subdivision is

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I don't I don't know.

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It's self-explanatory, right? It's this
middle school is literally with Hubin in

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that in that area. So,

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the traffic going through the school,
you know what I mean? This is during the

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day. Everybody's at work. There's
there's a couple cars. That's the gist

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of it. There's there's nothing else
really going on there far as disruptive

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of anything
from from 8 to 2, you know what I mean?

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But it's literally across from the
middle school. I don't know.

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» Looking at a school, that was your
point. And it's still I mean it's the

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the the uptick of the traffic in which
there is none. Um there is none

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as far as what do we consider traffic? I
don't more than 10 cars. I don't know.

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But the amount of traffic that comes
after school I mean you that make sense

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like that's been a lot of cars leaving
the school and going

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west and down every division. You know
what I mean?

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So for me that argument doesn't really
make a whole lot of sense. Um

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because you live across from a middle
school basically and high school.

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» It's it's already very close proximity
to a building like over

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» and and addressing the size of the
building and looking to the future. I

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know you talked about 1500 square f feet
I think when we initially but we really

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didn't see any plans on what type of
structure it's going to be and I think

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there should be some uh maybe some
limitations based on what what you're

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going to do around the building is it
going to be something that just a

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building that sits there is there going
to be some shrubbery uh something that

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kind of puts it in in the same thing as
as a residential neighborhood and uh if

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that's not the case and it kind of
stands out a little bit different. Uh

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looking at registration, I know we asked
about that, talked about it. The state's

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pretty vague on that. They really they
say yes and then they say, "Well, maybe

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this and maybe that." It's kind of a a
real wishy-washy area. Um I looked at

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the website, went and looked at that. Uh
they've had some legal problems in the

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Midwest with their various uh school
locations. Don't know why I didn't get

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into it. It's just that they mentioned
those lawsuits and happened. Uh

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other than that, uh you know, not being
a certified school, I mean, I understand

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Bible training is probably a little bit
different than a standard school. Uh

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that that kind of concerns me. But, uh
you know, I think the purpose is good.

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Uh I think there may be uh you know if
there's going to be problems down the

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road I would hope not that it could be
from that and understanding you know the

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neighborhood that they don't really want
their resident changed to something

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other than at least something that looks
like home.

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» So you know that's kind of where I'm
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» Well all of the plans that we're looking
at look like homes. In fact, we, you

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know, we were looking at Cory's building
that he's working on right now, um, for

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two purposes. One purpose to see if that
structure would work for a Lifewise

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building.
>> Mhm.

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» And it absolutely would with some
modifications on the inside.

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» So, um, yeah, we're not we're not
building a commercial building that you

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could put up a, you know, another kind
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understanding,
and correct me if I'm wrong, heading

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wrong a lot, the variance would only
apply to a Likewise building. It

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wouldn't apply to any other business.
>> That would have to be the limitations

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that it would revert back.
>> Yeah, I would assume.

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» Yeah. To a residential.
>> You put stipulations for

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» Yep.
>> how it looks, what size.

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» Yeah. Any
expansion that we would do

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would only require
an additional

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uh two classrooms to accommodate high
school and middle school because if

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their schedules over overlapped, it
would never we would never require a

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bigger space than that.
>> Are you talking about possibly doubling

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the size of the exist existing building?
Probably not double.

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» Not double. No.
>> Depends how many kids you have. You

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have 1,500 square feet for what? 90. No.
>> For 25 at a time, though.

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» Yeah.
>> So, we would never need we would never

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need really more than 1,800 square feet
in my mind. Um, they talk about uh 25

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square feet per student.
Um so the classroom is only going to be

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you know less than 700 square ft. So,
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of us,
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there any question,

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» John, to adjubs,

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flowers.
>> Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's a residential

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neighborhood. You don't want to put
something out that is just so fun.

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» Yeah. [laughter]
>> No, I mean it literally would look like

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a house with all the fixings.
>> Like we all keep up our own properties.

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» Yeah. We've lost something that looks
nice to students to come to.

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» Sure.
>> So realistically, even with an addition,

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I mean, you're 3,000 square feet or
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» Oh, yes.
>> More than likely.

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» With each lot sold and put a 2,000 foot
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square foot
of home on four lots. This would still

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be quite quite a bit smaller than that.

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» You guys you guys would

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use the or the would use the east half
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and you would lot off the west half for
homes. Do I understand that right or

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» that's up to the property owners?
>> Okay. That would not be a fuss

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because any any partial if it's a
partial

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uh donation the don the donated property
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but the rest of it you know if we didn't
use the whole part it would be the

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donors
>> and that would be up to you guys what's

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allowed in that there Any

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thoughts on that?
>> The rest of it would be helpful. unsure

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houses.

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» I think from a town, you know, that was
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is, you know,
you have you'd have four lots that you

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would have taxes paid on
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» nonprofit.
Well, but what I'm saying is at least

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you would be able to keep two.
>> You would be able to keep two.

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» Yeah.
>> Which I think is

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» Well, I see what you're saying.
>> Yeah. Because there's not, you know,

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we're not making much more property in
town. So, as to your point, Yeah.

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» Um and infill housing is what has been
the mantra for years now because it's

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harder and harder to property unless you
have 100% of the business or property

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owners on on board. So, that infill
housing is what promotes

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uh improvements and and raises property
tax values and improves um

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neighborhoods. So yeah, and on our
utility side as well, you know, more tap

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fees and uh
we just talked about a wastewater

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project that's like okay, is it four
years out or is it six, seven years out

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depending on dollars. So another avenue
of improving our way to our treatment

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plant is for customers that means more
more dollars in that allows us gives us

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a greater position when we go to bond a
project um and seek financing it gives

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us a better position. So yeah we want to
look at it from all those angles. Our

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comp plan what our comp plan says about
housing promotion in town and and

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growing within ourselves uh within our
means too. So yeah,

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» plenty commission looked to this.
>> Um, no, no, it comes to the BCA

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initially. Yeah, not initially comes to
the BCA for a variant, use variant for

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» Can I respond to that?
>> One of the things that draws people into

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a community is the strong school
>> in the community. And uh I think and

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this is just just my opinion, but I
think when people see, wow, there's a

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Lifewise Academy, this school is really
a strong I I think it just speaks to how

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strong it is for a community to embrace
an additional educational opportunity.

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I really do. I'm I'm not just throwing
that out there as a life-wise

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representative. I think when you know
when we moved to North Judson years ago,

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it was such a thriving booming town
school was just overflowing. And and I

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think anything that the town can do to
encourage that kind of growth of

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education
encourages people to say, "Hey, that,

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you know, that's a town that is growing.
That's that's my opinion of that and

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I understand you know you know there
aren't too many places to build new

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homes now
>> I understand and I think the point too

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our businesses I mean in a lot of sense
hollowed out completely hollowed out we

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were still working on getting a grocery
store here what like how is that

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possible you know it's because we buy up
small small goes away and we we're left

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So, it's not much. So, yeah, in the vein
of that, it's uh it makes it more

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attractive to have those things. And I
don't think anybody opposes

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» you guys at all. I think it's location.
That's all that comes down to these

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letters and input from people. It's just
location and they have a they have a

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personal stake in it. And I can't I I
don't know how I would feel if it was my

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next order. I I couldn't couldn't tell
you. I don't know even across the

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street. But I take your point entirely.
Absolutely. I think there is the more

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the more and I guess I don't know
anything about life wise never heard of

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it any of that but um I take your point
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I guess I don't have any I don't have
any questions um I guess if there are

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none we want to make motion to close the
public hearing

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we'll make the motion close the public
hearing if you know what else has

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anything else to say
>> could I say one thing

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[laughter]
just in on the point of lifewise

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want to to promote it but several back
in the I think it was in the 1800s and

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mind would be pronouncing this man's
name wrong but his he was a philosopher

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from France and he came to America and
he seen how great America was. France

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had a they had the rich and they had the
very poor and there was no middle class

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at all. And he could not really
understand why America was so prosperous

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until he went into the churches. When he
went into the churches,

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he said, "America is great because
America is good. And when America ceases

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to be good,
it will cease to be great." And likewise

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is not it's a non-denominational thing
that doesn't exclude people from other

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denominations. It's Christian
denomination but that that's the only

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thing about it. So that that's a thought
to

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and today we're we're in dire need of
that. When I was in when school school

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was very safe
there was no one thought about bringing

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a gun to school.
And I I would think that we should do

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all we can to encourage somewhere some
the basics of Christianity to our

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children to make America as great as it
as it once was.

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It's my call.

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Um so there's
one motion on the floor. Close public

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hearing. Do we have a second?
>> Second. All in favor?

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» I

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bring to a vote

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to make a motion uh to either accept or
deny and then on the basis of how

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» Yeah. How much?
>> Yeah. salads the whole thing or

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» about half and um yeah the sign of it
seems to be what has questions asked

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answer
>> on the the look of it of course that's

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another one but
>> yeah and it's uh

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approved deny or approve with
restrictions basically

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» I'll make a motion we approve the
variance with the restrictions

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that is pertaining to
local, county, state ordinances, rules,

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and guidelines.
And it this fits in with the decorum of

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the neighborhood.

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Second time,
all those in favor say I.

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» I.
>> I.

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Was that was you Sarah Deac?
>> No, no. I was just I was looking over

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stipulations that I written down it down
>> and that was number one talking about

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the property reverting back to
residential if wise I can't remember

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what wise life
>> lifewise I know I had it close

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um and being split into two parcels I
think that's part of what we talked

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about also
>> uh state approved Jerry carried covered

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that pretty good at that and the
entrance off Campbell street

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and I can't think of any stipulations
other than the city the town would have

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any requirements.
>> No, no, those were the questions where

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and how oriented and uh just the more
visual aspect of which that was covered.

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You know, looking at state requirements
and that when it comes to the fire

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marshall and things of that nature,
>> do they have to meet the same

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requirement as school?

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» Any building that's open to the public
is subject to the fire marshal

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jurisdiction.
>> Yep. Yep. And and we would have an

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experienced contractor
handling all of the details and he would

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kill them.
And that this half of the property is my

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understanding on the east half of the
property. Is that my understanding of

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what we're in written here
or am I wrong? Just so I can discuss.

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» Yeah, the east side. That's what we
talked about

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» looking at the layout of the property. U

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» which as the original application was
the west side would be allocated for

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housing.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah. development future out development
that's the way I understand. Gotcha.

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» Can I ask
the parcels are

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» that's narrow. So can
>> that's another one is it would be and if

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you split it in half you could almost
join the two on the east side the one

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» okay
>> and the other two on the other side they

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would fit um Joan uh Batty and the uh
neighborh they almost mirror the

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property line so you I don't you would
have to change much there

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» well the parcels on the map are divided
along Campbell Street long ways not

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yes and I think if you
>> that's okay that we

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» Yeah and I Think as long as what's
understanding I believe in in splitting

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it east side and west side like that
whole neighborhood you would take that

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line and just draw it in half and that
would essentially give you four parcels

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right
>> lifewise you would like I said want to

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join one part parcel to just put it in
the center or where it's oriented best

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for your needs and according to our town
code but on that would if you split it

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in half that would essentially leave you
those other two parcels that mirror

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» the neighboring one so yeah that would
be that makes total sense as As far as

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the makeup of the block, our zoning map,
>> that's why we asked for the whole thing

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because we the dividing line with that
are used.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

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» Yeah. That's that's the way
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» So you'd have the access on Division
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for the other half basically
>> for the Lifewise campus. No, for the

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other one for
>> for the other the other the two

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residential. Let's see.
>> Off.

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Yeah,
>> west side. I guess one could be off

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ambush.
>> Yeah, division,

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» right? Block. No, it's evening. So
division is the road that runs into the

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middle school, you know, parking area.
>> So it's pretty much like this

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and the west side of this property. So
likewise on this

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split in half this way,
>> you still have to have

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you. Okay, I see what you're talking
about.

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This is

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» okay. That's what I was.

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» Okay. [clears throat] Yeah.

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» And the details. Okay. We have
>> Jerry

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Jerry made the motion. Isaiah second

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» up here got
comments or questions or anything short?

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I don't either. Um,
>> there's a 30-day remmonstrance period.

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» Just never got
>> No, it never got back to us. Our

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attorney had to travel overseas. There
was a death in his family. So, if not,

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he would be on our Zoom.
>> Uh, there is a 30-day period where uh if

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we receive anything, whether it's
through the and this is where specifics,

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uh, whether it's u through the courts or
or some measure of a remmonstrance to

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that. Um, but there is a 30-day period
after approval. There he is. So here

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again like I just said the details.
>> Yeah,

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» for certain of I'm not speculate.
>> Yeah, and we'll communicate. Uh I know

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it was 30 days because we had another
Yeah.

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» variance recently uh that Justin uh we
were informed of that then as well. So,

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» uh I guess if nobody else has any
questions or any additional

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goods.
>> One additional thing we uh for the year

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we need to let a uh chair and vice chair
the BZA like we do every year. So I know

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Josh had that last year if someone makes
wants to make a vote

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make a motion that we

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second. All in favor

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with

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» I guess a motion on vice chair. Yeah.
>> Jerry. Yeah.

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» All right.
>> You got it set up.

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I guess if there's no business or
further question then you make a motion

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to adjourn. Second. All in favor?
>> I know we're

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» Thank you.