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I call to order the city of North Florida via a regular commission meeting and first public hearing of the budget for Monday, September 14.

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The year 2026, a mirror boarder, welcome to residents, colleagues here on the commission.

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The administration department has and everyone joining this evening.

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Before we delve into other stuff, and I would like to make a brief application, you may

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be seated. I'll proceed.

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Mighty God, thank you for the city of No Flotterdale and for

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every family and resident who calls this community their home.

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Your word tells us to seek

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peace and prosperity of the city we place us. So tonight we're asking you for

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wisdom to make decisions that are fair, responsible,

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and in the best interest of the people

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that we serve.

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We ask you for discernment, compassionate care, and that for the people

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you place under our trust.

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We ask that your blessings will be upon our residents, our employees,

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our first responders, our administration, and this commission, that you will help us to

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The good stewards of the resources and stresses entrusted to us and to be mindful of the burdens

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carried by our families, our seniors, our owners, and businesses, we ask you one more

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time to give us wisdom, unity and understand as we conduct the people's business tonight.

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For the glory is yours in the Lord's alone and for the benefit of your people, we ask all that in Jesus' name, amen.

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Vice Mayor, who's so much pleased to lead us in the presence of the teachings.

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Thank you. May we see it.

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Good evening, everyone. Again, Madam Clerk, please do the role call for us.

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Mayor Borginland. Here. Vice Mayor Booster Monte. Yeah. Commissioner Lewis Rickett.

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Here. Commissioner Lewis. Here. Commissioner Martin. It's not present at the moment.

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City Manager Sergeant. Yeah. City Attorney Pamis. Yeah. And I'm City Clerk Slattering.

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There is a quorum. Thank you. We have a quorum. Thank you. Just before we continue if anybody wasn't here. Please

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would appreciate it if you could turn your mobile device signet.

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Please, thank you.

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We will now proceed to item three, A, which is the first reading, on the add-bomb, tax

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rate for fiscal year 2627.

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Madam City Attorney, if you could read the ordinance by titled this.

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An ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Northwaterdale Florida is establishing

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an adopting the City of Northwaterdale Advalor and Tax operating village levy rate

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at 7.650 Nils or 7.650 per thousand dollars of taxable assessed property value for

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the 2026 tax year representing an increase of 9.46 percent over the roadback rate

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of 6.980 9 mills for all purposes. Providing for

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some ability providing for conflicts and providing for an effective date.

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All right, see the imagine. If you please make the

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require presentation there, we're going to. Thank you very much.

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Yes, we're going to do a presentation and just before we begin that,

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just make a quick let all state and here on where we are with the budget process.

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So since July 28th, Commission meeting, I'm...

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Our goal has been very simple, reduced, the fiscal impact on the residents while maintaining the services.

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Our community depends on and protect being the city's long-term financial stability. If you all recall it, at that time, when the commission adopted the 8.4 mills.

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We said that we were going to work to reduce it, and we reduced it, and we're presenting the budget at first hearing of 7.65 mills.

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And so, getting from 8.4 mills to 7.6 mills required a great deal of work and effort.

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Since July we held two town hall meetings where we shared information, answered questions, listened to concerns,

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and received valuable input from the residents.

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Some of those inputs were incorporated, and we continue to review those as we work to finalize the budget.

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At the same time, the budget team, which consisted of the finance director, the budget manager,

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the deputy city manager and myself, went back through the proposed buzz line by line.

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We reviewed staffing, operating expenses, capital projects, and other expenditures.

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We looked at what could be reduced, delayed, adjusted, or extended,

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while continuing to provide the services our residents have grown accustomed to and rely on.

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As a result, we identified more than $2.3 million in cuts, reductions, adjustments, and project extensions.

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That allowed us to recommend today the $7.65 mils utilizing $272,000 in reserves to balance the budget.

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This is significant progress in our influx several weeks of detailed review and some difficult decisions that had to be made about the budget.

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But the millage rate is only part of the overall budget.

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Tonight, the commission will also consider the city's four assessments.

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Fire, stormwater, solid waste, and water control.

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These assessments fund specific services provided to our residents and properties.

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And just as we did with the millage, we have carefully reviewed the costs associated with those services.

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At the same time, the cost of providing these services continue to rise.

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Our fire assessment helps support the cost of providing fire rescue services, including personnel emergency equipment, fire apparatus, protective equipment, and the everyday cost of operating our fire stations.

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Our solid waste assessment reflects the cost of collecting and disposing of the garbage and bulk throughout the city, including our contracts with waste management, as well as the disposal sites, fuel, labor and equipment costs.

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Our storm water and water control assessments support the drainage and water management systems that protect our neighborhoods and properties from flooding.

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These include maintaining our canals, our canal banks, our drainage systems, our catch basins, and other infrastructure as well as drainage and flood control improvements.

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As our infrastructure ages, we experience, and we experience heavier rainfall events, maintaining

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and approving these systems becomes increasingly important and increasingly costly.

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These are not simply numbers that appear on a tax bill.

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They represent services our residents depend on every day, whether fire units responding

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to an emergency call, garbage being collected, drainage systems being maintained, can out

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being managed can now banks being restabilized and investments being made to reduce flooding

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throughout our neighborhoods.

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This is a balance that we are trying to achieve with this budget.

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We must consider what it costs to provide these services, what can reasonably be supported

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through the general fund and reserves, and what our residents can reasonably afford.

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Reducing the proposed millage rate does not mean our fiscal challenges have disappeared.

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The cost of public safety, insurance, employee benefits, utilities, and other essential services

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continue to increase.

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At the same time, we have major infrastructure responsibilities ahead of us.

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One of the largest is our water treatment plant.

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We are facing an investment of more than $100 million to meet new federal water quality requirements

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while the federal government has provided no dollars to support those projects.

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We also have major drainage and flood control projects underway or planned, including the

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new C-14 pump station, Tamar's Channer Boulevard drainage and paving improvements and

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several age drainage, paving, and beautification improvements.

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These three projects alone require approximately $16 million in city matching funds to match

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the over $16 million in grants we received.

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At the same time, we still have to maintain our roads, parks, buildings, utilities, public safety

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systems, and all the everyday services are residents expect.

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So we have to balance what our residents can afford today with making sure this city is

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financially prepared for the responsibilities we know are coming tomorrow.

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I recognize that every dollar matters to our residents, as far as the recommendation before the commission, tonight is 7.65m instead of 8.4m.

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However, there is a fiscal impact to every decision. If an assessment is reduced, that revenue must be addressed somewhere else in the budget.

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that could mean additional spending reductions, greater use of reserves, delaying projects, or identifying other funding resources or reductions.

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I also want to thank the residents who participated in our two budget town hall meetings.

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Whether you agree with everything we presented or not, your participation was important, U.S. questions, race concerns, and offered suggestions, and we listen.

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There are still different difficult decisions for the mayor and commission to make tonight regarding both the

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millage rate and the four assessments.

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We also recognize that proposed changes to Florida's property tax system could be before

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we'll be before voters in the November election.

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If approved, those changes could have a significant impact on future municipal property tax revenues.

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and in North Waterdale, that number is about $7 million in loss revenue as outlined by the

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Breyer County property appraiser a few weeks ago when he presented in North Waterdale.

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The city must therefore continue evaluating its long-term financial plan and the potential

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effects of those changes on future budgets.

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Ultimately, our responsibility is to maintain the city's fiscal responsibility, protective

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essential services, properly fund the services our residents depend upon, prepare for major

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infrastructure needs and at the same time do everything possible to reduce the financial impact

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on our residents. This is what this budget is about finding the right balance not only this year,

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but in the future years ahead. That has been our focus throughout this process and will continue

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to be our focus as we work with the mayor and commission towards adoption of the final fiscal year

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27 budget on Monday, September 28.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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With that, our budget manager, Mr. Stewart,

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we'll walk you through the presentation.

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The presentations are available on the table.

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For anybody who didn't look at it and print it online.

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This has also been online since my last Thursday.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you.

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You are a recorder.

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With this, I would also like to ask

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the department that presenting also give a very short standardized justification, you know,

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not over the whole thing.

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Thank you.

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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Mayor Vice Mayor, commissioners, city managers, city attorney, the city clerk,

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our community.

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That's participate in here today.

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And also the staff, my name is Sharon Stewart and I am the Budget Manager and I will be going over the presentation here tonight regarding the proposed budget for 2027.

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So here's what the agenda looks like. The City Manager's opening comments which was already made.

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the proposed military recommendation.

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I'll propose assessment rate recommendation,

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propose citywide budget overview,

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propose general budget overview,

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on the general fund budget overview rather,

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and the proposed citywide capital improvement plan

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along with some, you know, important dates

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and any questions and discussions at the end of the presentation.

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All right, so regarding the city's property taxable value

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between 26 and 27, we had our taxable value with 2.84 billion dollars, which is an adjustment

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to our current property tax valuation of 2.8 million dollars plus we had additional new

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construction value of 1.6. So in all said with that it's 142 million dollars increase

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or 5.26% over the fiscal year 26 budget.

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This will represent our historical taxable value.

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So between 2017 and 2017, you can see the history there.

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All right, so this chart basically informs you of where we are with our new construction taxable value within the city of North Lauderdale.

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So we could see that at number one, we are the number one where we have the lowest at one point, almost $1.7 million in new construction value.

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If you look at the other cities that I do have highlighted there a few, you can see like for example Sunrise has about 16.3 million

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Mayor Mar, which is number 23, has about 83.7 million.

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And the last city that's captured here in this illustration, Fort Laudado, which is about 1.8 billion dollars in new construction value.

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So that's just comparing us to the other cities in Broward regarding our taxable increase in new construction.

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All right.

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The property tax valuation.

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This is comparison to show you our valuation in regards to our military.

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So we have highlighted there.

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And number three that shows that we're at the 2.84.

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Billion and our new proposed millage rate is at 7.65 and a few of the other cities.

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For example, we can look at the City of Tamarack, which is number 7.

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They're at 7.246 and their millage rate is at proposed anyway to be at 7 mills.

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This chart illustrates the historical property millage rate.

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So between 2018 and 2026, we have not increased our milliderate.

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It remained the same flat at 7.4.

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So the last column in green, which the arrow is pointing to it,

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that's the proposed millider for 2027, which is at 7.65 mills.

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Okay, the milliderate impact.

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So this is comparing 26 to 27.

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So the adopted milliderate for 26

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is 7.4 mil, that generated $8.18.19 million dollars in an ad for loan revenues, which is

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property taxes we use some interchangeably here. And for 2027, the proposed millage is 7.65

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where we will generate, if approved, a little over $20 million dollars, so like almost $21 million

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is of $0.6 million, which will represent an increase of 1.7 or 8.82% over 20,26.

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This charge represents just the historical village values.

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Advalor and Revenue's rather, excuse me, between 2019 and 20,27.

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So this charge shows you the history of what we've collected, with the admiral and

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every news between those years.

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Our private tax dollars.

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Where does that go?

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There's always that question.

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It's like, you know, for every tax dollar, how much of it does the city receive.

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So, right now, which is the school board is getting about 30 cents.

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North Lauderdale here is getting 34 cents of your dollar.

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The county gets 27.

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North Broward Hospital District gets six cents.

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and there's an other category that's there that will get the 0.3% or 0.3 cents.

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Okay, the Millage Change property impact, right, on the single family home.

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So, according to the Broward County Properties, Property Appraisers Office, the average

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assessed value of a single family home in North Lauderdale is about 220,853, and I'd like to

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say that that does not mean the value that you will get on the open market for your property.

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This is what the property of prices assess that property for taxable value.

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So if you're claim and homestead, you get $50,000 off that taxable value, bring that down

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to 1783.

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So at the 7.4 milliliters rate, which we have now, the tax on that property at the 2.2853

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would be $1,264.31. But what we're proposing today at the 7.65

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mills, that property will be $1,307 and $3 in taxes, property taxes only, and that would

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make an annual difference of $42.71 or monthly of $3.56 or a daily difference of

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12 cents on that assess value if the 7.65 is approved.

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In addition, I have here the property MPAC on a condominium where the property appraisers have that average, assess that about 16965, with a homestead exemption of 50 that taxable value turns out to be 66,965, which at 7.4 mil, that would property condominium unit would pay 495, and 54 cents in property taxes.

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or at the $7.65% we were looking at $512.28 or an annual difference of 16.74 monthly of $1.40 or 5 cents daily.

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These are recommended assessment rates.

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The first column will show you the adopted and goes down to the different categories that we're going to be voting on today.

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and the proposed and the annual change the monthly change in the daily change so for the

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fire assessment currently for the single-family home it's 278 the recommended or the

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proposed for this next fiscal year is 650 Mayer I'd like to say that since we read the

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ordinance that had to do specifically with the ad valorem we have to stick to that one

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now. So then folks who go to a hearing on that issue, then we move to the next ordinance and then

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you can speak to each one separately. Okay, so if you want to go to slide 20. I'm sorry, page

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Okay. All right. Okay, so based on the village rate that is proposed at 7.65. The

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rollback rate, which the rollback rate is 6.9889. And what the rollback rate is, it's the rate

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of millage that will get you generate the same amount of taxes for this current fiscal year,

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which is at 6.989. So we'll generate the same amount of taxes as we currently have budget

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for the 2026 budget, which will be an increase of 0.6611, or a 9.4% increase over

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the rollback rate. So what we are proposing is a 7.65, the rollback is 6.9889 and the percentage

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increase is 9.46.

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Okay, this one.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'll slide with the slides now.

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No, we're not going to do the assessments.

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Alright, so this is the citywide proposed budget summary. It lists the funds that we budgeted for in the fiscal year. So the first column is the FY26 adopted the second is the FY27 proposed and then the changes in terms of dollar values as well as the percent changes. So the total budget adopted in

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is 1557 million 084 004 this for the next current for the next fiscal year rather we are

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proposed in a budget of 161 million 915 534 again I'm sorry to interrupt

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to talk to the general for we have a reading the reading is clearly that we are

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focused on the general for the ad volum only the ad volum tax rate right

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and the analysis of the rollback rate and the increase and the budget relating to that

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alone. In the next meeting when we're doing the budget ordinance, then we can go

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into the budget summary and the remaining details. I just want to say that

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because we need to have an opportunity for the public to address the commission

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on the one issue of the Advalorum tax now.

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All right.

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So, all right.

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So, the general fund budget which is what is driving is driven by the Advalorum revenues.

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So, the general fund budget itself is adopted for 2026-564-milain-868-691.

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For 2027, we are proposing 48 million 560709, which is a decrease of 6,000, and 307,982, or 11.5%.

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And then that you'll be able to see what we have proposed for the different departments that are reflected there, which you can see, the city commission, the city manager, human resources, finance, city attorney, city clerk, the police department, community development, code enforcement, public works, parking recreation and non-departmental.

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So those are the funds, or I'm sorry, the different departments that are funded through

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you know, Advalor and Revenue and then again, the proposed budget on that, but this will

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be the 7.65 millage, is that 48, 560, 709.

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In addition, I can show you where the breakdown is of the millage rate, which will show you

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The first line will show you where the taxes are and the proposed budget for the 2027 fiscal year.

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The general fund itself is a broken down of different objects that we budget for, which is personal services,

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operating expenses, capital expenses, grants and AIDS, and transfers out as well as contingency.

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So that will show you between the 26 adopted to 27, what the changes are in personal services.

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So for example, personal services has a budgetary change of 775, 711, the operating expense did decrease at 2.5.

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5, 4, 9, 5, 4, 7. Our capital increase also had a huge decrease as well.

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You know, one, almost two million dollars, grants and eights, 9, 46. And the transfers

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and out did decrease somewhat by 1.6. The contingency itself remained flat at 850.

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So that is the make up of the budget by the object.

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All right,

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so this is just a little summary of how the budget is broken down again by what we have budget in an expense on the top line.

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Right.

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Just for the second.

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But I'm quite forward.

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The record could you announce what Tom Commissioner Kim and please.

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Commissioner Martin arrived at 529 p.m.

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Thank you.

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All right, this chart represents a fun balance usage in the general fund itself.

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The top is the budgeted expenses, you know, between 29, 19 and 20, 27 is to pick

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this air was as the advalorant revenues, the non-advalorant revenues and the fund balances.

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So if we just pivot to the last column 20, 27, again, the budgeted expenses is 48, 5, 6, 7, 0, 9,

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our advalorant revenues that would be generated from the 7.65% is at 20, 6, 44, 83 would

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need nonanvalor and breven used to make up that gap in the amount of 27,641,31. And when

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that's all said and done, if this budget is adopted as it is with the expenses that

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that we have proposed and the 7.65 military, we will only need to use $272.995 record to

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in 72,000 rather than in our fund balance,

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which our fund balance is our savings account.

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Primarily we could look at that, essentially,

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and tag that usage that way.

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This is just like another recap,

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visual recap of the 7.65 mill is what it means

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between the revenues expense and the additional revenues.

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And the iPhone or its self represent about

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442% of the general fund budget.

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These are the general fund budgetary pressures, so these are actually

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embedded in the budget that we have proposed already. So right now we're looking at the police contract

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increase of 1.5 mil. The transfer to the fire fund of 1.2 million dollars. I'm sorry that police contract

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is represented twice, so disregard the second amount.

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And the Somerset Replacement, Rufel Placement,

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is that one mill, we're also proposing 500,000

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for the City Hall ADA restroom, 375,000 dollars

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for Southwest 81st Street Landscape,

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median inspection in engineering,

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and also for the home rehab and hometown hero program.

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That's the cost of $400,000.

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As the city manager mentioned that we did,

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you know, visit the budget again,

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and what we tried to attempt to do is to get to the 7.65 millage rate.

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So we did look at different aspects of how to balance the budget at 7.65.

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So there was some revenue adjustments here where we did get our final revenue amount.

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from the state and regards to those numbers that we have projected on and then we receive

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the final numbers. So, for example, the Adverloorum, that's the adjustment that the first

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line is the adjustment from the 8.4 millage to the 7.65. So, it's a reduction of a little

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over two million dollars by adjusting the revenue from the millage rate rather from the 8.4 to 7.65

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percent. The state did, you know, up the, um, communication service tax that we will be

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get and so instead of the original 710, we're getting 734, 968, which is about $25,000

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difference, um, in the state revenue share and, um, did go up a little bit by 51187, um, the

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half cent taxes that did go down from the earlier projection. So we did lose about 115,000

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dollars there, just a small adjustment to wrench and

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world fees, which is 27, and that we're proposing a search

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charge for the user fee for the credit card of about

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$70,000. That's all for the general fund.

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So these are the

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budget adjustments that were made between the departments in order

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to be able to get to that $7.65 mill, millage rate with the

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$272,000 that we are utilizing in our reserves, our fund balance.

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So I would love to defer this to the City Manager to speak on this.

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Senator, thank you, Chair, good evening, Mr. Mayor of Commissioners.

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And so in order to get the cuts necessary to get us to the 7.65, we looked at all of the budgets

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and we went line item by line item and these are recommendations.

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The only thing that we looked at under the Commission area was a potential reduction of

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over time.

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There are a couple of employees that are over time eligible.

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We've corrected that issue where they no longer get over time and so we are reducing 20,000

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of that 24 that was originally budgeted and then we are making a recommendation to reduce

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the discretionary funds as well. In the city manager's office consulting services, we are

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looking to reduce by $125,000. Miscellaneous by $1500, marketing by $10,000. Community

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recognition by $7,500 and travel and training by $2,500. In the city attorney's office,

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we looked at the actuals from human resources, legal general manners and finance,

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So we are recommending to reduce those human resources by 25,000

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General matters by 10 and finance by 10.

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Additionally, in human resources, we looked at consulting services

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for special H&R projects, reducing those by $10,000.

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Reducing employee events by $10,000.

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And we have not gotten to spend, we did not spend the full amount

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for the employees this year and so that reduction is won't impact the employees and then

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travel and training and human resources by $3,000.

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In finance, we're looking at reducing their travel and training in seminars by $7,200.

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That is a large number for travel and...

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Training, but they do need to make sure that a variety of the staff, the department head, and the accountants

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all have their, get their necessary seat, use the continued certifications. In public works, we're

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looking to reduce $25,000 for new decorative straightlights, decorative straightlights that will

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be installing in parks and recreation. We are reducing travel and training in two of their divisions,

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We're looking to reduce some of the part-time staff hours, no staff, but staffing hours in the seven to fun, and then with those reductions, there's also some reductions with the fake attacks as we'll play, hey, we're looking at reducing some money from some special events, but not canceling all those special events.

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We're looking at reducing the amount of dollars used for seasonal employees.

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Those are fee-based program staff.

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And then the other one is the obviously replacement of like a

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dollars from the seasonal staff.

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We're also looking, it's not on this list, but we're also looking at

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reducing the special event contract that we have and re-conforming that.

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In the community development department, the home rehab program,

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we're looking to reduce it by $100,000, and then in non-departmental, some of these will be

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funded out of the contingency, but we did reduce some money, so we did reduce out of the

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general fund budget, you know, the $200,000 for J.C. Park, the back of public works. The summer

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set roof, we actually got quotes from the roof and the cost is about $900,000, so we reduced

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that by $200,000, we're reducing $450,000 off the boulevard of champions, repaying project.

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Rark Island Road, we need $700,000 to pave the portion of the road from McNab Road to

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Bally Road. So we're reducing all of that by $700,000, because the county is going to reimburse us

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So, the Council of the County will be reimbursing that to us, we're waiting for the agreement that does that.

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Insurance we've reduced by $200,000, and then the contingency we're reducing by $200,000.

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And then we're going to look to start doing third class or bulk mail for all of our advertising.

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And only use first class mail for checks that are amount out, code violations, or correspondence.

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And the rest will all be third-class mouse.

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So we're looking at a reduction of that.

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And then we'll address the other ones

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when we get to it.

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But that brings us right around to about $2.1 million.

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And so that is how we were able to reduce the millage from 8.4 to 7.65.

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I want to be very clear that we have not,

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and you saw the slide that Sharon put up when

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talk about, you know, where the budget is by personnel and so on. We have not cut anything

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associated with our personnel. We have not cut personnel. We do have a soft hiring freeze in place

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right now. But we do have a, we, we haven't cut, you know, the pay raise that the employees get

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unlike other cities, most of our employees don't get union pay raises, plus coal, plus

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merit in North Auto, everybody only gets, you know, one pay raise, and so we've left

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that the same. We left the FSA money the same. And so that's really the reflects the

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difference in personnel. Everything else we have reduced all of the other budget operating

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all the other departments have seen a reduction in their budgets overall.

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And so with that Mr. Mayor, that concludes the General Fund presentation.

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If you'd like to hear from the General Fund Department quickly, we can.

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And we can have them come up state kind of their mode of operation.

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And you want to know like there, maybe you want to know the accomplishments they had.

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Some major accomplishments this past year.

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Not, it was not so much, it's just the, like to make sure we have a justification for any

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department where there was an increase in dollars of a percentage, and it went specifically

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cause the change in the, whether it's in your position programs or contract equipment, whatever

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we have,

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and then what happened.

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To residents services, if the request was reduced, I would like to get those things.

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Through the chairman. Yes, you recognize.

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Thank you.

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We're not, sorry, we're not there. We're question yet.

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We just, it's a part of the presentation. We're not there to the question yet.

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We're just going to, we'll be very, very question later on unless you have something on it.

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Well, that's not asking.

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Yeah, not, we're not, we're not there to question yet.

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We're not there with question.

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We're just going to make sure we like to present there.

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Okay, so the chair.

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Okay.

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May I add in regards to the general fund expenditures?

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There are a number of items that are not actually included in this budget for the general

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fund.

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So, not all of this is, but I'll go through the ones that are related to the general fund,

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which is the City Hall Security and Champlain's renovations.

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That's a million dollars.

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the home hardening program, a million dollars, the lapidated home repurchase program, half

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a mill, downtown development, real related costs, that's a half a mill.

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First time home buyers program, 300,000 on demand transportation, that's 300,000.

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then the ETMA goal initiative is that 250, let's see, lobbying services, that's $150,000,

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food and wine festival for 100.

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The feasibility study for the special district that's

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not included as 100,000. Quarterly events, 100,000, the Youth Council pilot program is 100,000

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and increase in the commissioners' professional service

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on 100,000, that's not increased.

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That's not included, rather,

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kids with autism program for 50,

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get healthy, North Lauderdale initiative,

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that's 50,000, the teen center of grades at 50,

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and that will, and the general fund expenditures

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that is not included in the proposed budget

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that was just presented.

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So with that we can resume, we can bring the general fund

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departments up, we'll start, we'll just go in order

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in the hallway, so we'll start with community development,

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She has some decreases, so she can explain them.

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So Tanya, if you wanna walk through just community development,

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what community development department does,

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any reductions to services that are outlined in the budget.

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We're not necessarily reductions, but impacts to services.

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It's still good afternoon, Mayor Vice Mayor Commissioners.

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City Manager, City Attorney City Clerk, and or Northwaterdale Community.

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Community development had a 20% decrease.

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And as you stated, you want to make sure that our decrease is not affecting the level of service that we provide to our community.

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But rather, we are maintaining, but mindful of our fiscal spending.

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To that, Mayor and Commission, we just want to point out

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or biggest items on our budget as our operation of our building department.

431
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So, our building services is provided by Barack County.

432
00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:09,250
And last year, we had a budget of about 950,000.

433
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:18,430
Keep in mind that whenever they have an increase, it's built in system where we pay an increase annually.

434
00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:29,530
But we looked at our trajectory of permits that we're processing the volume we're processing and also the changes in the state regulation.

435
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:35,730
So we are planning on having a town hall on House Bill 803.

436
00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:39,270
I hope our residents that are here today will come and listen to that.

437
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:42,630
That is greatly affected on how we do business.

438
00:44:43,230 --> 00:44:45,010
Meaning, we're going to see a lot more.

439
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:47,730
We have to make room for private providers.

440
00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:51,330
That means they are able to pull the permits,

441
00:44:52,110 --> 00:44:55,450
review the permits, and inspect the permits.

442
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:59,750
That takes away that work, that or...

443
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Building department would do internally through the consultant which is for our county. So we looked at that and start to reduce the cost. We don't know what that impact will be through the year, but we know it should be an impact because we have seen that services requested currently in our current budget year.

444
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:25,880
And that also we're trying to be mindful of our projects, streamline in them, make sure that we get projects out quicker.

445
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:33,900
So there's less review time, if there's less review time, less inspection time, that should reduce the cost of that big service.

446
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:43,620
The other project that we have, we have gone from 400,000 to 200,000 is in our general planning.

447
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,960
What that means is that the Marin Commission approved the update of the Land Development Code.

448
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,680
We were able to start it in this fiscal year.

449
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,980
So based on the core of that work, which is the upfront

450
00:45:57,980 --> 00:46:02,040
legwork of collecting data, packaging, we have already

451
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,780
absorbed some of that cost.

452
00:46:04,660 --> 00:46:09,540
So the 200,000 is to push it into the tail end of that project

453
00:46:09,540 --> 00:46:11,240
into the 2027 year.

454
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,460
We also went down in our miscellaneous consulting services.

455
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:25,720
This is not an indication to give us more work, but we have been pretty good at absorbing

456
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:26,920
some of that cost.

457
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,920
And knocking wood, we also have not had an image of disaster, which would trigger the use

458
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,900
of that amount, which is for emergency building services.

459
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:42,440
So we have built contingency to support the building department.

460
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:55,860
Again, the state's natural requires that if we have a hurricane or an emergency, we need to be up and running within a few days, so everything can operate on time.

461
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:01,820
That money is there, and fortunately we have not had the need to use it.

462
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:09,940
Lastly, we have somewhat increased or economic development fund, but it's not by much.

463
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:19,300
In that account, we handle or chamber, or visit or taste of North Lauderdale, and all other

464
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:25,040
projects related to funding or businesses, whether it is currently, we have a grant program

465
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:31,980
where we are helping businesses to get a new sign if they'd like, or put a new equipment as long

466
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:37,380
it is going to help the city of North Lauderdale to improve the business condition.

467
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,660
So that budget was increased. Other than that, mayor and commission are code enforcement

468
00:47:43,660 --> 00:47:52,560
budget, which is mayor of us, the highest cost there is or lease in our vehicles and right

469
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:59,120
below that is our special magistrate. I haven't put it out yet, but we do have some benefit

470
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,240
of our special magistrate that we are working on a contract, who has been generous enough.

471
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:09,680
I don't know if I can put that out yet, so I will wait, but it will see a significant

472
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,780
reduction for us. Again, some work will be handled by staff internally.

473
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:22,480
In totality, Mayor and Commission, we took the lead from or administration or city manager

474
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:30,080
said, the budget initially, we have always operated on a sleek budget in our department and we

475
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:37,800
do a lot with very little and we will continue to do that for community and hopefully get

476
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:43,060
better at our service. That's it for my presentation. I can answer in a question and see

477
00:48:43,060 --> 00:48:51,260
me have. Okay, city manager let me ask you how many of the departments we have that would

478
00:48:51,260 --> 00:48:56,400
So what we present basically want to know just if there's an increase or decrease.

479
00:48:57,580 --> 00:49:06,580
So I actually made the financing numerous sources are very small departments, so their changes

480
00:49:06,580 --> 00:49:08,000
are a very minor.

481
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:20,520
Public Works is a combination of general fund but also an assessment department and then

482
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,440
You want to just address your general fund expenses, so not anything that comes out of any

483
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,200
of the assessments,

484
00:49:37,220 --> 00:49:41,240
and either major increases or decreases, and any reductions in cities

485
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:41,400
or.

486
00:49:41,620 --> 00:49:44,860
And let me guide the conversation also, presentation.

487
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:51,540
We're media interests also give there's any new position, programs, or contract, equivalent

488
00:49:51,540 --> 00:49:57,520
or capital expenditures that would be included to justify, that's all we want to make

489
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:58,160
sure.

490
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,980
Okay, if you could happen with us, that's it.

491
00:50:02,260 --> 00:50:11,760
Could you say the party again? No, just if there is, because if, when, when, when, when, increase, or decrease, we want to make sure that there's a reason why that's all for the public.

492
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,680
Capital new positions, equipment,

493
00:50:20,540 --> 00:50:24,020
if there is. If there's any, if there's.

494
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:30,420
So, good afternoon everyone. So, right now, there are, we have several capital projects going on.

495
00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:35,740
And we have a couple of bids out for grass cutting or landscaping.

496
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,600
We also have the Kimberly West project on this schedule to start shortly.

497
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,140
Those are already budgeted for fiscal year 26.

498
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:48,500
So it's not going to affect 2022 and the 7-pointed.

499
00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:55,500
We did put in for a administrative A coordinator,

500
00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:58,180
Administrative Coordinator for Public Works and Utilities,

501
00:50:59,180 --> 00:51:01,080
and the budget is 70,000 for that position.

502
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:06,020
So we have a really requested, you know, any significant positions.

503
00:51:07,420 --> 00:51:13,540
As far as equipment for the general, there is no building equipment we're looking to purchase now for the streets,

504
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,280
and that's an enterprise fund is a back home.

505
00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:24,260
We just recently purchased a vacuum truck for which was in last fiscal year.

506
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,040
There have not been any increase of bits.

507
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:33,560
I'm cuts to our proposed budget for next year, but there's not going to be any,

508
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,080
decrease in services from our end.

509
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:39,340
Okay.

510
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:44,970
I think that should be all right for that.

511
00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:47,230
Because we're looking at page 22.

512
00:51:48,370 --> 00:51:54,770
There's a lot of reduction in decrease in the proposed

513
00:51:54,770 --> 00:51:56,210
for 20 still in seven.

514
00:52:05,860 --> 00:52:07,740
So, sir, it was just what I wanted to mention.

515
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:11,860
So, the $4.6 million reduction, what we're doing

516
00:52:11,860 --> 00:52:13,460
is we're spreading out, so we're delaying

517
00:52:13,460 --> 00:52:19,740
of our projects. It's a 28-29. So we could, you know, get everything back in place as far as

518
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:22,860
budgeting and keep in the city's budget on track.

519
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:31,390
Okay. For, for example, they had a, um, they have

520
00:52:31,390 --> 00:52:37,170
900,000 dollars budgeted for some new piping and some new valves in a conversation with public

521
00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:41,630
works. It was determined that they're not going to be able to do all that in one fiscal year anyway.

522
00:52:41,630 --> 00:52:47,910
So they've got $500,000 this year, and then they'll get the other $400,000 next year.

523
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:56,270
There was some money set aside, as you know, the commission approved this year, some engineering work for new fire hydrants,

524
00:52:57,390 --> 00:52:59,670
or some upsides piping for fire hydrant.

525
00:52:59,710 --> 00:53:01,950
That is still in the engineering process.

526
00:53:02,330 --> 00:53:06,650
So the chances of it's starting and being completed next year to actual work.

527
00:53:06,650 --> 00:53:12,990
So that project is budgeted now not in this year in this coming years capital budget, but the following year.

528
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:16,510
So no project was said we're not going to do it.

529
00:53:16,510 --> 00:53:24,510
Some were spread out a little bit mainly because the project's start date is probably after,

530
00:53:24,510 --> 00:53:29,170
you know, the current fiscal year, the new fiscal year, you know, is ending.

531
00:53:29,770 --> 00:53:34,470
And so we're just moving them down the road a little bit to make the impact a little bit less on the residents.

532
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:37,760
Okay,

533
00:53:42,050 --> 00:53:43,710
that's all for public work, correct?

534
00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:45,190
We do not want to do it.

535
00:53:47,110 --> 00:53:47,190
All right.

536
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:51,070
I see to imagine, next, with other department, we will have.

537
00:53:54,830 --> 00:53:58,070
The last department will be Parks and Recreation, the other

538
00:53:58,570 --> 00:53:59,050
Operational.

539
00:53:59,650 --> 00:54:03,110
And Mr. Mayor, the residents have asked that are here if they could

540
00:54:03,110 --> 00:54:04,570
see those things on the screen.

541
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:08,450
This was not part of the original presentation, so we don't have

542
00:54:08,450 --> 00:54:09,290
them on the screen.

543
00:54:09,770 --> 00:54:12,010
All we can show you is what we're showing you.

544
00:54:12,010 --> 00:54:19,930
that, you know, on the far right-hand side of that column, it's either, you know, an increase

545
00:54:19,930 --> 00:54:22,810
in departments or a decrease in departments.

546
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:27,310
And so, where we're just addressing the decrease right now in the general fund departments,

547
00:54:28,030 --> 00:54:33,630
and then fire will discuss theirs and public works will discuss their assessments later

548
00:54:33,630 --> 00:54:33,930
on.

549
00:54:34,350 --> 00:54:40,210
So, Parks and Recreation will be the last one to present under this one, and it's the same

550
00:54:40,210 --> 00:54:48,910
questions, capital projects, new positions, and equipment that has been requested, and that

551
00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:52,170
was removed or moved down the road to the budget.

552
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:59,970
Yes, good evening, Patrick, can parks and recreation director.

553
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:10,240
And just giving a quick overview as mentioned, I know the city manager mentioned, in the presentation, what the reductions were, and I can certainly go over some of those again.

554
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:18,080
And just sharing what we do, providing quality of life and proof services for pretty much all-mayage groups.

555
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:25,480
From our youth children, teens to our adults, our seniors, all the way through providing key services.

556
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,680
Our core services, as you all know, are children.

557
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:29,880
We're in summer camp.

558
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:33,920
We serve 520 children throughout the summer on a daily basis.

559
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,340
And then throughout the school year, we serve 140 children

560
00:55:37,340 --> 00:55:39,540
in after school hours, usually come 2 p.m.

561
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:40,700
to 6 p.m.

562
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,740
We provide a merit of opportunities, a broad range of things

563
00:55:45,740 --> 00:55:49,160
throughout the year for everyone, family,

564
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:52,900
oriented, including we have youth and adult athletics,

565
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:57,580
They go on basketball, as the city manager mentioned, we use the summer set gymnasium.

566
00:55:59,020 --> 00:56:05,040
So that gymnasium condition is successful and helpful for our youth programs for our basketball.

567
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:10,520
We also partner with North Island Panthers for a taco football cheerleading program.

568
00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:19,860
And we run a soccer program two different seasons, spring and a fall, and those seasons continue to be successful.

569
00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:26,640
and, you know, with the help of our artificial synthetic turf that's been really helpful in our maintenance,

570
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,820
and leading into one of the things we did reduce is some maintenance cost by about $40,000.

571
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,700
And I think he ought to...

572
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:38,420
Sir, sir, Frank, you have any documentation, nothing at all?

573
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:39,200
Documentation.

574
00:56:39,260 --> 00:56:40,320
Any backup?

575
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,540
Back up forever.

576
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,180
I mean, well, what you're presenting, I don't see it.

577
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:45,340
We don't see anything here.

578
00:56:47,560 --> 00:57:04,060
Mr. Mayor, this was not part of the original presentation that we had planned and made public and so this came as a result of the questions that you had asked in your email over the weekend and so the departments are just kind of walking through this.

579
00:57:04,060 --> 00:57:11,820
I don't understand, but the commission did ask a couple of weeks that the department will show where

580
00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:21,380
would show their expenses, everything for the budget for 26 and 27.

581
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,540
And so it doesn't increase.

582
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,880
You could justify what's the increase or decrease.

583
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,220
So that's what we have enough time to do that.

584
00:57:30,220 --> 00:57:38,040
So, Smith, Mr. Mayor of this slide basically shows that there is a decrease in just about every department in the city.

585
00:57:38,580 --> 00:57:42,000
The city manager's office has a decrease of 6%.

586
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,900
Human resources are a decrease of 1.09%.

587
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:51,460
The Community Development Department are decreased by 20.44%.

588
00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:56,320
Code enforcement, 8.13%, public arts 49.39%.

589
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,340
again a lot of theirs are assessments as well and then Parks and Recreation is a decrease

590
00:58:01,340 --> 00:58:03,300
of 3.10%.

591
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:07,860
And so the only departments that saw an increase were the sheriff's office department that was

592
00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:14,440
something that we had originally discussed when we walked through their contract and then

593
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:22,860
the city clerk has a 16% increase but it's $72,000 and the clerk can let you know what that

594
00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:27,700
out with, but for the most part, all the other departments have a reduction in the amount

595
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:33,180
of money that they used last year to compare to what is proposed right now this year.

596
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,560
So, every other department is seeing a reduction.

597
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:41,640
I'm not going to give it too long, but the homework was that each department would say exactly

598
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:47,380
this is what we're asking, what we're increasing, whether it's equipment, whether it's a contract,

599
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,240
whatever it is, so it can justify it, but it was not shown here.

600
00:58:52,240 --> 00:59:03,800
I mean, we had too much it. That was the executive purpose for it. So resident would know exactly where the money is going to go, whether we need this, for example, we just went to a page 20.

601
00:59:04,540 --> 00:59:12,620
What was the page was that? If you could see the page 3031, I believe.

602
00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:21,780
where it shows exactly the sum of set of roof is needed in whatever department and you would

603
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:32,540
see the the police department came up twice. We have the was it 23 or 22 or that.

604
00:59:33,460 --> 00:59:39,680
So those are examples. I mean we can see we can see the percentage, but we don't see

605
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,300
what it is, why?

606
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,780
What causes to go up or down?

607
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:49,710
Those are just for transparency.

608
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:59,970
I thought, I guess.

609
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,600
That's they're looking for a list of a more detailed list of the cuts other than what we provided.

610
01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:17,100
Excuse me, just like we had in a general fund, 31, but it's department would say, okay, well, we had a maybe seven million last year.

611
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:27,500
This year we're going to ask eight million, but what causes that? So we didn't have that one. Those are the details that needed to be done prior to this meeting here, but it's not done.

612
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:32,000
All right, so for the essence of time we're not going to have it here, that's fine.

613
01:00:33,220 --> 01:00:38,480
You can move on with the one question I would ask for all the other departments would be,

614
01:00:38,620 --> 01:00:45,500
if the commission adopts something smaller than 70.6 and 76.5.

615
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:54,420
What can the department or any department reduce, differ or fund elsewhere, or accomplish more efficiently?

616
01:00:54,420 --> 01:01:02,180
So that's what we're that's the purpose of asking each department. What do you want to show we have a higher increase or lesser increase?

617
01:01:02,460 --> 01:01:08,260
What is it there since we don't have that that's a part of the question that we'd like to have so before passing to the public.

618
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:21,380
Yes, or so we will whatever millage rate the commission approves tonight there will be a second vote on the September 28 commission meeting and so if the commission said 7.4 mills

619
01:01:21,380 --> 01:01:26,620
then we will come back and we will show you what we can cut out of that.

620
01:01:26,860 --> 01:01:29,540
Again, the goal is to use as little reserves as possible.

621
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:35,220
So we are prepared to do whatever the final number of the commission has

622
01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:39,160
to make that work as best we can.

623
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,840
We've got, I got the only thing, like I said,

624
01:01:41,980 --> 01:01:46,440
when we want to make sure that the public is educated on knowing

625
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:53,880
For every tax dollar the dollar the spent what is it going on where is it spent on and they can say have the full view of

626
01:01:53,880 --> 01:02:02,940
Exactly what is general number is good, but they want to go into the deal. They can decide whether one is we don't want that one, but that's all. All right

627
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:07,260
This is if you have another department

628
01:02:07,260 --> 01:02:12,180
If not Susan you want to just explain your because the clerk's office has an increase

629
01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:16,020
The increase for the clerk's office is due to election costs.

630
01:02:16,580 --> 01:02:21,700
We have five more of a random questions, a special election this year.

631
01:02:22,460 --> 01:02:25,580
And each question is on a separate ballot.

632
01:02:25,740 --> 01:02:34,960
Each question is separate as well as the other ballot that is for the mayor at large.

633
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:45,120
So the supervisor of election has raised their fees and that that's proposed is to what they're going to charge us.

634
01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:45,660
Okay.

635
01:02:48,970 --> 01:02:49,810
All right.

636
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:50,790
Back to the city manager.

637
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:55,950
Commissioner that concludes the presentations for now. The other departments will present.

638
01:02:56,630 --> 01:02:57,570
When we do the assessments.

639
01:02:59,710 --> 01:03:01,730
Do we do the assessment now?

640
01:03:02,130 --> 01:03:04,290
Or because we have to finish the matters first.

641
01:03:04,630 --> 01:03:06,210
We have to finish the millage first.

642
01:03:06,210 --> 01:03:09,250
way, so this would be part of still the managed correct?

643
01:03:09,530 --> 01:03:10,230
Yes, sir.

644
01:03:10,310 --> 01:03:10,390
Okay.

645
01:03:10,390 --> 01:03:11,010
Go ahead.

646
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:38,250
Okay.

647
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:38,810
We're ready?

648
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,100
Only on the knowledge for now.

649
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:51,040
So, Mr. Mayor of that, we'll conclude the presentation for now on just the

650
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:51,460
message.

651
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,200
We have more of a presentation, but we'll do it for each one of the assessments.

652
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,260
Yeah, that's going to be part of later on.

653
01:03:57,460 --> 01:03:57,880
Yes, sir.

654
01:03:58,020 --> 01:03:58,200
Okay.

655
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,460
That's what my question was.

656
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:00,920
All right.

657
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:11,900
All right, this I know commission's ready to focus question, but first we need to let the public I'm going to get into the public for question

658
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:17,120
Commence then then we move on with the commission

659
01:04:18,140 --> 01:04:22,000
Madam clerk, do you have any one any speaker at this point or not?

660
01:04:22,860 --> 01:04:24,820
If not, this is open to anyone

661
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:40,020
The speakers don't sign up, the budget hearings, what has happened historically is you ask who wants to speak and then they come up one by one in the chest three minutes.

662
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,640
Could you not sign up?

663
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,380
I had a hearing.

664
01:04:44,660 --> 01:04:50,560
Historically, if the budget hearings, we do not use public comments for people to sign up to speak.

665
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:51,980
We're okay. I'm just to that.

666
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:57,240
I appreciate that. No problem.

667
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,980
Have been said that for this item there.

668
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,600
Here, the public discussion is open for anyone, please. Anyone feel free to come to the podium, ask question.

669
01:05:14,310 --> 01:05:16,570
I had a change. My speech three times after.

670
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:20,210
I'm going to state your name and my name is Linda Ashby.

671
01:05:20,970 --> 01:05:24,590
I'm a resident of North Lauderdale for approximately 15 years.

672
01:05:26,190 --> 01:05:32,610
I came here in 2010 and boy things have changed. Good evening, Mayor, commissioners.

673
01:05:32,610 --> 01:05:38,390
My city-controlled property taxes and assessments are proposed to increase from approximately

674
01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:41,410
1,000 to 1698.

675
01:05:42,130 --> 01:05:47,630
That's a 594 increase from an or approximately 54%.

676
01:05:47,630 --> 01:05:55,410
My non-advalorment assessment alone are increasing from 956 to 1545.

677
01:05:55,850 --> 01:05:58,430
That's 62%.

678
01:05:58,430 --> 01:06:10,790
The city manager described, reducing the proposed millage rates from 8.4 to 7.65 mills as a significant reduction, that description is misleading.

679
01:06:11,730 --> 01:06:16,330
The 8.4 mill rate was only the maximum ceiling approved in July.

680
01:06:16,330 --> 01:06:19,450
It was never the rate residents were paying.

681
01:06:20,190 --> 01:06:28,970
The honest comparison is with the current 7.7.4 millerate and the 6.9889 rollback rate.

682
01:06:29,630 --> 01:06:33,650
At 7.65 mills the city is still increasing our tax rate.

683
01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:42,250
It's approximately 9.46% above the rollback rate, reducing and inflated maximum while still

684
01:06:42,250 --> 01:06:45,810
increasing residence taxes is not tax relief.

685
01:06:46,790 --> 01:06:51,950
Residents should not be forced to absorb the consequences of approximately 11 million

686
01:06:51,950 --> 01:06:56,010
budget gap and years of questionable financial decisions.

687
01:06:56,670 --> 01:07:01,530
Yet last year, four members of the Commission voted to give commissioners the approximately

688
01:07:01,530 --> 01:07:09,250
a 200% pay increase, tripling their salaries from 19,000 to 57,000.

689
01:07:09,250 --> 01:07:15,830
Commissioners are also receiving an 808,400 vehicle allowance while the mayor's salary

690
01:07:15,830 --> 01:07:18,330
has increased to $68,000.

691
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:27,430
By the way, market city mayor is only making 30, 30K, and they have a March larger citizens.

692
01:07:28,910 --> 01:07:31,430
I'm a senior citizen living on a fixed income.

693
01:07:31,870 --> 01:07:36,510
I must pay for my home, utilities, insurance, transportation, food, medical needs.

694
01:07:36,510 --> 01:07:42,070
When my expenses exceed my income, I cannot demand more money from someone else.

695
01:07:42,370 --> 01:07:43,750
I must reduce my spending.

696
01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:45,930
The city must do the same.

697
01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:51,150
Go through this budget line by line cut on necessary travel, excessive compensation,

698
01:07:51,390 --> 01:07:55,490
waste, and non-essential spending before demanding another dollar from residents.

699
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:58,890
I am asking you to reject the 7.65 millerate.

700
01:07:59,070 --> 01:08:04,290
Move toward the rollback rate and adopt a budget residence can actually afford.

701
01:08:04,290 --> 01:08:06,670
Thank you for your attention in this matter.

702
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:15,680
Experts and please.

703
01:08:18,020 --> 01:08:18,380
Thank you.

704
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:18,700
Thank you.

705
01:08:18,780 --> 01:08:19,460
Good evening commission.

706
01:08:21,060 --> 01:08:24,060
So what I found interesting is, well, let me hold on a second.

707
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:30,620
If we go touching everything, that means the next, next, I am because assessment, I want

708
01:08:30,620 --> 01:08:34,200
people to allow you to do because if we're addressed, just merely that would be okay.

709
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:37,860
But if we're addressed, all the other subjects there, that's something else.

710
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:38,420
But go ahead.

711
01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:41,720
Well, you can tell me, but I basically pulled out one particular kind of thing.

712
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:42,860
No, I'm just talking for everyone.

713
01:08:42,860 --> 01:08:43,440
Oh, I'm sorry.

714
01:08:43,540 --> 01:08:44,440
I'm sorry for everyone.

715
01:08:44,660 --> 01:08:48,500
Sure, I think I'm good, because I pulled out a particular category that involves with

716
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:48,860
the village.

717
01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:50,880
And so could you please take your name?

718
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:51,740
Oh, I'm sorry, Susan.

719
01:08:52,180 --> 01:08:52,380
Yes.

720
01:08:52,620 --> 01:08:57,020
Dibziati, 11 or two Southwest, 82nd Avenue, resident of the beautiful city of North

721
01:08:57,020 --> 01:08:57,360
Waterdale.

722
01:08:57,900 --> 01:09:00,640
So what I did this afternoon was just out of curiosity.

723
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:07,360
I pulled a, and this is all from the budgets, from 2023 to currently where we are right

724
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,280
now with the proposal.

725
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:09,900
And you can correct me.

726
01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:11,860
I'll leave the information to make sure that it's accurate.

727
01:09:11,860 --> 01:09:18,880
And it was just basically a comparison of the 2023 budget where we are now with the 2027 budget.

728
01:09:19,060 --> 01:09:20,940
And I'll just highlight it by the cost, right?

729
01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:28,560
So in personal services, the total, 228,740.

730
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:37,160
Right now, unless, again, I can be corrected, but I'm pretty close, 664,461.

731
01:09:37,580 --> 01:09:40,720
When it comes to operating and expenditures in the past,

732
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,600
You had a total of $385,000 and $10.

733
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:50,600
We're currently going to run now with $591,592.

734
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,280
And then in the past in regards to grants,

735
01:09:53,420 --> 01:09:59,460
aids and expenditures, we had a past total of $82,985.

736
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:25,800
We are currently now at $185,387. The total difference, right? The total difference from past to now, $696,735. We are currently $1,441,441,441,444. I think we can do better, right?

737
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:34,640
If you look at what was the staff now versus the staff in that department, then there's the difference.

738
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,720
I know the camera can't see it, but the crowd can't.

739
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,200
This is the past, this is where we're at now.

740
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:41,000
So there's obviously a growth in that.

741
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:46,240
There's also what I wanted to point out, if I know if I'm on the clock or not,

742
01:10:46,820 --> 01:10:51,860
but in regards to the discretionary funds and the give, I'll call it just the give away money,

743
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,040
that money was put together by waste management, right?

744
01:10:55,040 --> 01:11:01,060
So that was something that was put into a program that allowed you as city officials to kind of

745
01:11:01,060 --> 01:11:06,380
get back to the community with your projects and we're currently now away from that and we're

746
01:11:06,380 --> 01:11:13,620
using residents tax dollars okay and the money is is absorbent I think that there's a lot of

747
01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:18,500
people that want to speak I don't want to take a lot of time my general point to you is you can do

748
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:24,780
better right because when you look at what was done last year which was inflated right and then

749
01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:29,980
go back now and you try to deflate that number. That's not really fair because you have

750
01:11:29,980 --> 01:11:36,140
to count the four years of the administration, right? You guys, you talk about being

751
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:42,520
viscally responsible, transparent, held to accountability, I say force your staff and

752
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,440
the city staff has done a great job. Go back, you can do better.

753
01:11:54,110 --> 01:12:00,410
And I'm going to add administration feel free if you have any factual questions as appropriate,

754
01:12:00,410 --> 01:12:05,910
feel free, because it's just not to go ahead.

755
01:12:07,190 --> 01:12:10,330
Bill, I've only been arrested in a full report about six years.

756
01:12:10,930 --> 01:12:15,410
But I'm just looking at the data you guys gave us, and I'm seeing, you know, money has

757
01:12:15,410 --> 01:12:15,930
been increasing.

758
01:12:16,150 --> 01:12:17,250
I know cost of increase, too.

759
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:18,590
We've all seen it.

760
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:22,890
But we're seeing your income income increase at 7.4.

761
01:12:23,610 --> 01:12:28,110
We're seeing the spending going on, though, but you've been over spending for years.

762
01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:35,890
And now you're looking now and going, oh, well, to balance our budget, we need 8.4, 7.65, we're still not balanced.

763
01:12:38,110 --> 01:12:39,350
What have we been doing? We've got it.

764
01:12:39,890 --> 01:12:45,990
I don't mind paying a little more if I know we're getting our money's worth to take care of the things that we need.

765
01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:49,370
But remember, you guys have heard me speak plenty of times.

766
01:12:49,890 --> 01:12:56,190
I'm very conservative. Government does water, sewer, trash, public works, the utilities, the police, the fire.

767
01:12:56,970 --> 01:13:04,510
It's not actually parks and recreation, child care centers, all that kind of stuff is not part of government.

768
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:16,750
It's a nice thing we try to do, but we need to take care of making sure we're safe and we can live freely versus are we getting other people's money away to smaller groups to take care of them.

769
01:13:18,010 --> 01:13:25,910
And as a father of disabled kids, I understand we've taken care of disabled people in the past and we do, you know, the government does certain things.

770
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:28,730
But, you know, we're asking you five up there

771
01:13:28,730 --> 01:13:31,030
when you look at the budget from the city,

772
01:13:32,530 --> 01:13:34,170
are we really doing what we need to do,

773
01:13:34,270 --> 01:13:35,730
or are we doing what we want to do?

774
01:13:35,890 --> 01:13:37,490
So I'd just like to guys look really closely

775
01:13:37,490 --> 01:13:39,750
all that stuff, when you're considering this military,

776
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:41,010
I know it's tough decision,

777
01:13:41,250 --> 01:13:42,590
and I don't envy any of you.

778
01:13:43,170 --> 01:13:45,270
But just keep that in mind, we get the 7.4.

779
01:13:45,370 --> 01:13:47,170
Now, is that going to stake we all made?

780
01:13:48,970 --> 01:13:50,230
Or are you just over spending?

781
01:13:50,610 --> 01:13:51,230
Thank you very much.

782
01:14:08,690 --> 01:14:13,570
I'm not going to go line by line by what I wrote, but I do want to make a point.

783
01:14:14,490 --> 01:14:15,830
I'm like a lot of people here.

784
01:14:16,210 --> 01:14:17,450
I live on a fixed income.

785
01:14:18,690 --> 01:14:22,190
And I just recently, the government said that possibly,

786
01:14:22,570 --> 01:14:25,210
Social Security might go up 3 to 3.5%.

787
01:14:26,290 --> 01:14:31,410
You're asking us extremely high increases in the fire assessment,

788
01:14:31,650 --> 01:14:33,510
the budget and all the assessments.

789
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:39,970
It's unsustainable for people like ourselves who do not make a lot of money.

790
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:48,690
We live in fixing, because I've been living here over 30 years, my property tax is low,

791
01:14:49,170 --> 01:14:59,970
but at this point when I got my trim notice, it increased by $700 and that's a lot and that's

792
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:20,340
And I think that the city and all city officials need to do a far better job in this budget. Cut, cut the excess spending and do what is right. Look at three years of history of how you've spent and make a right decision and how you should budget line items.

793
01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:22,660
get rid of things that you don't need.

794
01:15:23,220 --> 01:15:27,660
You have to think of the people that are strapped.

795
01:15:27,820 --> 01:15:29,860
The economy is bad, it's getting worse.

796
01:15:30,340 --> 01:15:32,920
We're paying over $4 a gallon in gas.

797
01:15:33,940 --> 01:15:36,020
And it's not going to get any better any soon.

798
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:38,280
So you will also have to make that decision.

799
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,580
We're not making the salaries you guys are making.

800
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:46,200
So you need to really think, look at this budget, line by line,

801
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:50,060
and make the decision that you need to cut when needs to be cut.

802
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:51,540
Thank you.

803
01:15:58,790 --> 01:16:00,550
My name is Uri Segev.

804
01:16:01,170 --> 01:16:02,930
I am not a resident of the city.

805
01:16:03,130 --> 01:16:05,030
I own properties of the city.

806
01:16:06,030 --> 01:16:11,010
I own a specific property and office building at 840 southwest 81st Avenue.

807
01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:16,770
I was shocked when I received the trim notice a few weeks ago,

808
01:16:17,150 --> 01:16:20,450
whereby my taxes are going up from $65,000

809
01:16:20,450 --> 01:16:30,230
to $128,000. My taxes are going a hundred percent, yes. My rent-a-tum collecting

810
01:16:30,230 --> 01:16:35,030
later on that the building was closed due to the city, all the off-closure, but even

811
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:40,270
now that I'm back open and renting, I'm renting for the same rate I got in 2020-23-2024.

812
01:16:40,970 --> 01:16:45,830
I'm not increasing my rent-a-hundred percent, let alone how difficult in this city to

813
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:52,870
to begin with. Let alone that we cannot do triple net rent sealed the way in other cities it's possible.

814
01:16:53,450 --> 01:16:57,430
Here we collect growth. This is the type of tenants we have and that's what we are collecting.

815
01:16:57,950 --> 01:17:05,130
I cannot explain to a tenant, I'm sorry, but my taxes went up a hundred percent, I need to collect more rent. It doesn't work.

816
01:17:05,490 --> 01:17:09,090
It doesn't work. So I went ahead and did some calculations.

817
01:17:10,210 --> 01:17:15,730
and, by the way, the whole conversation up until now, since five o'clock was about the Ed Volorum,

818
01:17:16,450 --> 01:17:23,670
which is high, but this is not terrible. When we go into the non Ed Volorum, which is the second page of the

819
01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:30,690
trim notice that everybody gets, that's where you get shocked. That's where you, in my opinion, in my situation,

820
01:17:34,710 --> 01:17:34,730
the

821
01:17:34,730 --> 01:17:41,370
conversation about the village only, and so at the law or the assessments, none ever

822
01:17:41,370 --> 01:17:44,150
need to come when we discuss the items please.

823
01:17:44,890 --> 01:17:48,630
You want me to finish, you want me to continue to come back later, what come back?

824
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:49,030
I don't know.

825
01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:54,210
If you can't, later on, during the presentation, we have a little bit more assessment would

826
01:17:54,210 --> 01:17:56,450
be after, at the number and below.

827
01:17:56,590 --> 01:17:59,130
No, not at the volume, so to wait a bit or keep going.

828
01:17:59,570 --> 01:18:03,450
I don't know, you can, well, we'll come later on with that one now, okay?

829
01:18:03,450 --> 01:18:05,350
Come back when it was that time.

830
01:18:05,550 --> 01:18:11,030
No, now the law will be addressed at the right time when that ordinance is being read.

831
01:18:11,250 --> 01:18:12,090
That's all I'm.

832
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:13,610
But it's going to be today.

833
01:18:13,930 --> 01:18:14,630
Oh, you did it today.

834
01:18:15,310 --> 01:18:16,210
Yeah, sometime later on.

835
01:18:23,220 --> 01:18:24,100
All right.

836
01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:31,150
Good evening.

837
01:18:31,290 --> 01:18:32,530
My name is Thomas Kales.

838
01:18:32,690 --> 01:18:36,350
I'm a resident of North Lauderdale since 2019.

839
01:18:36,350 --> 01:18:36,470
20.

840
01:18:37,370 --> 01:18:38,090
They are correction.

841
01:18:39,290 --> 01:18:40,530
2019, 1990.

842
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:41,910
I'm sorry about that.

843
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:50,850
I'm a little bit upset over here, but my taxes are increasing and I've never complained

844
01:18:50,850 --> 01:18:52,010
about it, you know.

845
01:18:52,510 --> 01:19:00,210
Every year I pay what is due and I don't see any improvements in my neighborhood whatsoever.

846
01:19:00,990 --> 01:19:06,670
We got part holes and the street lights that are out and it's stuck, you know.

847
01:19:06,670 --> 01:19:17,470
And it's at night, very, very simple my wife could get mud over whatever, you know, and I can't protect it because I'm not there, but I can't see what's going on.

848
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:22,730
Basically, we're throwing money away and I wish that that would stop.

849
01:19:23,890 --> 01:19:34,390
Let's consider the residents what they're up against with today's economy and I know that cost of living is going up and things like that.

850
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:42,450
we could be more reasonable. I'm about to pay seven, almost $7,000 in taxes, and it's

851
01:19:42,450 --> 01:19:47,530
the three-two house. The house was built in 1978. That house went when it was built,

852
01:19:47,710 --> 01:19:54,930
because $35,000. I went the house for $80,000. I have invested almost 200,000 into that

853
01:19:56,650 --> 01:19:59,890
If you have any improvements and things like that, results.

854
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:08,800
So I'm not here to be a squander or waste time or anything like that, but I want you guys to realize

855
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:16,520
that I'm a taxpayer. I work hard. I have a wife and I have children and I'm trying to do the best

856
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:22,780
to raise them. But you guys are making it more difficult for people like myself to keep up with

857
01:20:22,780 --> 01:20:31,140
times, really, really is. There should be a better consideration on your behalf for the people

858
01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:33,540
that you represent. That's all I have to say.

859
01:20:43,890 --> 01:20:51,570
Well, I have to know everyone, my name is Senobilu, and I like to hear all of you talking about

860
01:20:51,570 --> 01:20:58,990
reduction or your different departments and I love it. When it comes to us, you're raising

861
01:20:58,990 --> 01:21:06,270
raising, raising, raising, raising everything up. So it doesn't go. You need to know when you need

862
01:21:06,270 --> 01:21:11,430
reduction for your department, which I understand. I'm running my company and I need

863
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:20,010
reduction. I cannot somebody say, okay, we're going to, you have 100% up more. From 35,000 to 75,000.

864
01:21:20,210 --> 01:21:26,590
Guys, it doesn't go. Our mathematics is the same like yours. We cannot get rent, people cannot

865
01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:32,710
pay and I understand them because they need to close the business. But you guys need to understand

866
01:21:32,710 --> 01:21:39,670
with the business commercial owner of this city, with the bread and butter of the city,

867
01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:45,890
the pay taxes heavy, heavy taxes every year. I mean, 25 business in this city, double as the city.

868
01:21:46,010 --> 01:21:51,730
25 years. And I don't give up by you guys, put a lot of pressure on me,

869
01:21:51,730 --> 01:21:54,430
If you die stay on this North Florida land,

870
01:21:54,510 --> 01:21:57,390
or I go to other cities that I do deal with them.

871
01:21:57,890 --> 01:21:58,970
So I love you all.

872
01:21:59,370 --> 01:22:02,190
I appreciate all of you doing a good job.

873
01:22:02,510 --> 01:22:05,630
So I do look also the commercial, not only the attention,

874
01:22:06,370 --> 01:22:08,350
we cannot just raise, raise, raise,

875
01:22:08,410 --> 01:22:09,630
and say, no, they have the money.

876
01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:12,370
No, we don't have, sorry to tell you.

877
01:22:12,410 --> 01:22:14,870
We don't have you going to put us into bankruptcy,

878
01:22:15,470 --> 01:22:17,810
and that's not what you want, that's not what I want.

879
01:22:18,210 --> 01:22:19,330
I appreciate you, everybody.

880
01:22:19,330 --> 01:22:24,210
Thank you, Mayor, Commissioner, Vice Mayor, and the dignity of the year.

881
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:25,390
Thank you.

882
01:22:25,690 --> 01:22:25,710
Sir,

883
01:22:27,890 --> 01:22:29,050
please state your name.

884
01:22:29,710 --> 01:22:30,190
Sam below.

885
01:22:30,590 --> 01:22:32,250
I saw that said in the beginning.

886
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:33,310
Sam below.

887
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:35,590
I'm alone if you want to know.

888
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:37,830
It's Kimberly Plaza.

889
01:22:38,610 --> 01:22:40,190
Only the first and Kimberly.

890
01:22:40,850 --> 01:22:41,690
Thank you.

891
01:22:49,790 --> 01:22:49,850
Thank you.

892
01:22:49,850 --> 01:22:50,790
Good evening, everyone.

893
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:52,610
My name is Ann Marie Bernardin.

894
01:22:52,690 --> 01:22:56,730
I am a resident of Northwaterdale for the last three years.

895
01:22:56,730 --> 01:23:01,630
years, it has been pure unadulterated health since I've lived here. I can't get anything done.

896
01:23:02,250 --> 01:23:12,490
I have to wait 18 months for a street light to go up. You guys want me to pay. $6,500 a year in

897
01:23:12,490 --> 01:23:18,250
US dollars to live in what I'm going to call a question of only abroad. I'm looking at

898
01:23:18,250 --> 01:23:22,550
the EV. I'm looking at plantation. I'm looking at all, and I'm like really, how can they

899
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:29,610
have a normal millage rate, but we have to pay higher than everybody else. So, as Al-Miseid,

900
01:23:30,090 --> 01:23:35,530
people 40% of this city lives on a fixed budget. That means that they don't make an and they

901
01:23:35,530 --> 01:23:42,770
make less than $50,000 a year. The median household income is $60,000. So, you're telling me that the

902
01:23:42,770 --> 01:23:48,190
house that I bought three years ago is so amazingly expensive and it has to be assessed at such a high

903
01:23:48,190 --> 01:23:54,430
value, that I need to be $7,000 so that that means that I can't make any improvements on my

904
01:23:54,430 --> 01:23:54,830
house.

905
01:23:55,010 --> 01:23:58,730
You guys are not going to help me because I make too much money because I'm not a table veteran

906
01:23:58,730 --> 01:24:04,250
or I'm not a Medicaid or I'm not a senior citizen, but I do have a disabled veteran husband

907
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:09,650
than we can't make any improvements to the house because the tax is $7,000 a year.

908
01:24:10,090 --> 01:24:12,050
And I overpaid for the house because guess what?

909
01:24:12,090 --> 01:24:16,150
The real estate is literally the only place in Brewer County that you got three years ago

910
01:24:16,150 --> 01:24:16,550
at least.

911
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:23,330
that you could find a place that was under $500,000, so with that set, understanding that half of this

912
01:24:23,330 --> 01:24:30,930
county, half of the city is making less than $50,000 a year. We are being grossly over assessed

913
01:24:30,930 --> 01:24:36,150
as far as our property values are concerned. I think that we need to seriously reconsider every

914
01:24:36,150 --> 01:24:40,970
single part of the village that's being increased. It doesn't look like a whole lot on paper,

915
01:24:40,970 --> 01:24:48,910
But that 2.265, whatever it is, that is costing us an enormous amount of money.

916
01:24:49,670 --> 01:24:54,230
This is an extra $1,000 on my tax, a $1,000 on my taxes.

917
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:58,950
For one year, I've looked at your three years and it just keeps escalating it, escalating it, escalating it, escalating.

918
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:59,970
I have p-

919
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:09,020
Not holes, a bunch of Section 8 renters, no street lights, fathom bonds up and down Bailey. Running through my neighborhood

920
01:25:09,020 --> 01:25:15,020
at night because that's where we decided to sleep and nobody's doing a goddamn thing about it. So guess what? I'm going to ask

921
01:25:15,020 --> 01:25:20,140
every single one of you because I emailed everybody who works for the City of Northwaterdale to seriously

922
01:25:20,140 --> 01:25:26,620
we consider cutting $200,000 that's going to J.C. Parking a beautiful light and all that other stuff

923
01:25:26,620 --> 01:25:31,720
put a light on my street. Start then. I don't care about any beautiful lights, but this needs to be

924
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:36,880
seriously reassessed. This village needs to go down to like 2% because we live in the freaking

925
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:42,420
hood and you guys know it. Okay, this city's poor. Man, I would appreciate, man. I'm sorry,

926
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:48,080
we'd appreciate if you keep the language appropriate, please. The hood is hers.

927
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,980
But, man, man, I'd say if you agree with you.

928
01:25:50,980 --> 01:25:51,620
Mayor Borsalin.

929
01:25:52,460 --> 01:25:55,400
No, no, no, no, no, Mayor Borsalin, I'm taking my time.

930
01:25:55,420 --> 01:25:56,240
Man, man.

931
01:25:56,380 --> 01:25:57,480
What I'm not going to do?

932
01:25:57,700 --> 01:25:59,520
Man, it's coastline.

933
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:00,720
If I would appreciate.

934
01:26:01,740 --> 01:26:04,900
That is going to put beautification light and I can't put a dead street

935
01:26:04,900 --> 01:26:05,840
like put on my street.

936
01:26:06,020 --> 01:26:07,040
I'm not going to do that.

937
01:26:08,180 --> 01:26:08,940
With all the respect.

938
01:26:09,540 --> 01:26:10,100
With all the respect.

939
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,340
I've heard my position on this matter.

940
01:26:13,860 --> 01:26:15,040
Man, with all the respect.

941
01:26:15,220 --> 01:26:17,620
One last time, I am done.

942
01:26:17,620 --> 01:26:22,400
one last time. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

943
01:26:26,830 --> 01:26:29,170
Okay, let's let's make it straight.

944
01:26:30,090 --> 01:26:38,590
We've been very we've been very leaning at the bottom. We're going to ask if you cannot keep the order.

945
01:26:38,690 --> 01:26:43,510
I'm going to ask you to be escorted very nicely. Please we don't want to get that. It's not worth that.

946
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:50,350
There's no need for that. We'll just ask respect. First of all, let me say please. A lot of people do not

947
01:26:50,350 --> 01:26:54,790
understand what's going on. When we say, you guys, you guys need to understand the role

948
01:26:54,790 --> 01:27:00,710
of the commission to represent your interest. A lot of decision, we are is proposed to

949
01:27:00,710 --> 01:27:06,290
the commission. Tonight is what the commission will do to settle to ask what you are asking.

950
01:27:06,810 --> 01:27:12,110
But seems like a lot of people do not understand how government the city proposes the commission

951
01:27:12,110 --> 01:27:18,350
will adopt, will set it up. This is not proposed by the particular commission. I just want to make

952
01:27:18,350 --> 01:27:25,310
clear like that. And I understand that, but please, always ask is respect, mutual respect.

953
01:27:25,630 --> 01:27:30,390
We're not going to disrespect, please, respect everyone here, and the audience. Thank

954
01:27:30,390 --> 01:27:33,750
you very much. Go ahead, ma'am.

955
01:27:33,970 --> 01:27:34,010
Ma'am.

956
01:27:34,510 --> 01:27:34,670
Ma'am.

957
01:27:35,530 --> 01:27:35,930
Ma'am.

958
01:27:35,930 --> 01:27:36,330
Ma'am.

959
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:37,750
Ma'am.

960
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:38,690
Ma'am.

961
01:27:39,450 --> 01:27:39,630
Ma'am.

962
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:47,030
not? I'm sorry. You addressed the question. You addressed the question. I addressed to the chair.

963
01:27:51,710 --> 01:28:00,970
I just wanted clarification on page 31 that the young lady presented earlier. So this is all from what was presented earlier, correct?

964
01:28:01,630 --> 01:28:01,810
Okay.

965
01:28:01,910 --> 01:28:05,530
It's on the management budget. That's what we asked for.

966
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:23,020
Can you clarify to me what's a transfer to fire, what does that represent, transfer to

967
01:28:23,020 --> 01:28:23,420
bias?

968
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:24,940
It was $1.00.

969
01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:26,460
Yes, ma'am.

970
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:27,360
Yes, ma'am.

971
01:28:28,460 --> 01:28:34,100
So under state law, the cities can have a fire assessment.

972
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:41,240
And so the fire assessment basically covers the fire portion of the fire rescue operation.

973
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:49,480
So, the city hires, a prior consultant, that does an evaluation, looks at call data and so on,

974
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:56,080
and determines a percentage that is fire and a percentage that is rescue.

975
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:04,540
The fire assessment that will be dealt with later on today in the meeting deals with the fire part of the fire rescue department.

976
01:29:04,540 --> 01:29:15,200
The transfer from the general fund to the fire department for the $1.2 million covers the rescue portion of the fire rescue department.

977
01:29:16,180 --> 01:29:25,140
Because by state law, we cannot have a fire rescue assessment, and so the general fund pays where the taxpayers pay for the rescue portion.

978
01:29:26,420 --> 01:29:30,420
And this is separate from non-adgloria.

979
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,840
So the fire assessment is non-advalorum.

980
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:39,580
And so out of the general fund, out of the $46, $47,000,

981
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:44,480
but $46 million budget this year, 1.2 of it goes

982
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,360
to the fire department to make them hold.

983
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,080
OK, so when you capture that, then you transfer from that to gear.

984
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:53,740
Yes, so we'll take that from the general fund

985
01:29:53,740 --> 01:29:56,000
transfer it to the fire so they have a complete budget.

986
01:29:57,420 --> 01:29:59,200
My next question was on.

987
01:30:02,060 --> 01:30:07,980
I guess the same page where you speak of the police contract increases up a million and a half.

988
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:14,880
And I know you said you said it twice. You said it twice. But then on page 22, where you, when other departments

989
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:21,760
were doing their presentation, is that the same as this police department increase of $2 million?

990
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:30,180
Yes, ma'am, so what has happened are, we contract with the Sheriff's Office as of October 1, 2021-26.

991
01:30:30,900 --> 01:30:34,620
It's our new contract, Commission recently entered into the new contract.

992
01:30:35,220 --> 01:30:39,300
The additional part of that is that the state of Florida,

993
01:30:40,340 --> 01:30:51,680
and its infinite wisdom decided to increase the amount of retirement pay or percentage that every city or county has to pay

994
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:55,900
for every police officer or firefighter into the FRS

995
01:30:55,900 --> 01:30:57,260
to Florida retirement system.

996
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,220
This year, the state increased that contribution,

997
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,500
and they dumped it 100% onto the cities and county.

998
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,940
So a firefighter in North Lauderdale or police officer,

999
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:12,760
even though they work for the Sheriff's Office, right?

1000
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:16,460
They pay 3% of their pay goes into their retirement.

1001
01:31:16,460 --> 01:31:21,840
The city is contributing now about 35-36%.

1002
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,040
And so if you look at that, the other way right for a general employee,

1003
01:31:26,420 --> 01:31:31,400
non-police, non-fire in North Florida, we contribute 14%.

1004
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,940
And so it's a big difference, but it's again, it's an unfunded mandate from the state

1005
01:31:35,940 --> 01:31:38,940
that dumps that onto the city and we have no say.

1006
01:31:39,180 --> 01:31:41,920
So it's not in addition to this to me in recent years.

1007
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:42,580
No, it's total.

1008
01:31:42,580 --> 01:31:45,680
So that's what me and I have with the

1009
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:51,620
it's total because we recently received the difference for the FLS increase.

1010
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:52,280
Okay.

1011
01:31:52,380 --> 01:31:55,660
And my final question was

1012
01:31:55,660 --> 01:31:57,580
Page 61.

1013
01:32:03,260 --> 01:32:06,240
Well, you did, you did half of it.

1014
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,040
So you spoke on.

1015
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:10,980
So you listed.

1016
01:32:11,940 --> 01:32:15,540
She went online and listed different ones that are not included in the budget.

1017
01:32:15,540 --> 01:32:16,200
Yes, ma'am.

1018
01:32:16,340 --> 01:32:22,380
OK, this whole piece says not included in the proposed budget, but the very top line, the

1019
01:32:22,380 --> 01:32:27,360
10 million to the mortite purpose center, was not one of those ones that was kicked out by

1020
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,460
not included in the budget.

1021
01:32:29,020 --> 01:32:32,800
So it can say, this 10 million is not in the budget.

1022
01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:35,920
But that's not one of the ones that she says wasn't in the budget.

1023
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,300
She went to a list of them and she started with the one mean for the city hall and then

1024
01:32:40,300 --> 01:32:41,380
she went down the line.

1025
01:32:41,620 --> 01:32:42,280
We're sorry.

1026
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:43,740
Well, I could tell with that.

1027
01:32:43,900 --> 01:32:47,120
You, because we were voting on the general fund,

1028
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:50,600
regarding the marriage, and then that one for the fire,

1029
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,880
multi-purpose, that belongs to the fire funds.

1030
01:32:53,020 --> 01:32:54,860
So that's why I included that.

1031
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:58,160
I excluded that from the presentation that I gave.

1032
01:32:58,220 --> 01:33:00,360
Just like the second one that says utilities,

1033
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:01,520
that would come out of the United States.

1034
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:02,620
Just give those talk to us.

1035
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,540
Because that would come out of the United States.

1036
01:33:04,540 --> 01:33:06,480
Because that would come out of the utilities' assessment.

1037
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:08,740
Which is the general fund.

1038
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,640
Not the general fund.

1039
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:11,500
So that was my question.

1040
01:33:11,500 --> 01:33:13,320
we can talk to you later about it.

1041
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:14,900
And so Mr. Mayor, if I could just quickly

1042
01:33:14,900 --> 01:33:17,360
come to you just to address a couple things.

1043
01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:21,320
The first thing it was brought up by at least two speakers

1044
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,880
about the appraisal of their property.

1045
01:33:24,460 --> 01:33:27,520
As we shared when we had the property appraiser here

1046
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,400
for a town hall meeting, that was advertised

1047
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,340
to all the residents in North Florida.

1048
01:33:32,940 --> 01:33:35,720
The property appraiser told everyone, right?

1049
01:33:35,740 --> 01:33:37,580
The city does not appraise property.

1050
01:33:38,140 --> 01:33:40,180
The property appraiser appraises property.

1051
01:33:40,180 --> 01:33:44,900
property appraiser was very clear. If you have an issue with the field, your property

1052
01:33:44,900 --> 01:33:50,180
value is too high. You need to reach out to the property appraiser's office. They will

1053
01:33:50,180 --> 01:33:55,940
tell you what you need to do to have your property reappraised. Again, the city doesn't

1054
01:33:55,940 --> 01:34:01,180
appraise property. That's done by the Breyer County property appraiser. Mr. Cargave

1055
01:34:01,180 --> 01:34:06,320
his phone number out to probably about 2,000 people that were here that day to call him

1056
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:10,640
So he could look into those and anybody that wants we can provide Mr.

1057
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:15,900
Cars information so that you can call his office to how to get your property whether it's

1058
01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:18,640
commercial or residential reappraised.

1059
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:24,320
The next thing I just want to address that, you know, if you look at our general fund expenditures

1060
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:29,700
in fiscal year 2024, it was $42.6 million.

1061
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:35,740
Today, if you fast forward to 2027, we are proposing $48 million.

1062
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,860
So it is a $4 million increase.

1063
01:34:39,020 --> 01:34:42,700
It is a reduction of $6 million over last year.

1064
01:34:43,340 --> 01:34:45,440
So we have looked at reducing the budget.

1065
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:52,940
And so as the mayor said, the commission tonight in their first hearing, this is your first

1066
01:34:52,940 --> 01:34:59,240
opportunity to vote on what the milliderate will be for fiscal year 2627.

1067
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:17,300
The number you give tonight, whether whatever that number is, we will then go back and we will work to redo our budget once again, and we will present to you again on September 28th. A final budget at the village that you're going to propose tonight.

1068
01:35:18,060 --> 01:35:26,560
And then that final village will have some use possibly of reserves or additional cuts to get to where we need to be. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1069
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:28,980
Okay, thank you.

1070
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,980
I see one more person.

1071
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:33,040
Okay.

1072
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:33,600
Two more people.

1073
01:35:34,180 --> 01:35:34,440
Okay.

1074
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:35,120
Okay.

1075
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,580
Let me see how many more needs to speak on this item.

1076
01:35:39,020 --> 01:35:40,060
I go one, two.

1077
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:40,300
Okay.

1078
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:40,680
That's it.

1079
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:41,420
Thank you.

1080
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,940
Good evening, Mayor.

1081
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:44,000
Good evening, Vice Mayor.

1082
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:44,880
Good evening, commissioners.

1083
01:35:45,060 --> 01:35:45,800
Give me a scene manager.

1084
01:35:46,020 --> 01:35:46,420
City clerk.

1085
01:35:46,540 --> 01:35:47,060
You see the attorney.

1086
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:48,540
Sorry, I missed you guys up.

1087
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:49,420
Good evening.

1088
01:35:49,480 --> 01:35:50,120
Well, they look right.

1089
01:35:50,340 --> 01:35:51,260
Three, twenty, four southwest.

1090
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:52,220
If avenue.

1091
01:35:52,220 --> 01:35:56,340
And I just, I'll make my question very brief.

1092
01:35:57,020 --> 01:36:00,800
I know a lot of residents do not know this, but our property values have gone up.

1093
01:36:01,140 --> 01:36:05,400
And the question I simply am accessing, and I think a resident actually asked me that question.

1094
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,300
If our property values have gone up, we're getting money from that,

1095
01:36:09,700 --> 01:36:15,220
and we're raising also the proposed millage rate is 7.65%.

1096
01:36:16,460 --> 01:36:21,000
The question I simply asked is, why is the additional on top of raising our taxes

1097
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:24,620
in the assessments that you guys were talking about as well as getting the money from the

1098
01:36:24,620 --> 01:36:29,220
evaluation of our properties. Why then are we now still going? Why then are we still having

1099
01:36:29,220 --> 01:36:35,460
to go into our reserves to balance the budget to pay our everyday operational bills? That's it.

1100
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:44,960
Thank you. Thank you. You may. So, Mr. Mayor. So, basically what we're looking at in the use of reserves

1101
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:51,440
is we're trying to greatly reduce the dependency on reserves moving forward.

1102
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:57,940
As I stated earlier, the great unknown is what happens on November 3rd with the property tax reform.

1103
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:05,220
If property taxes, if property tax passes and Florida, right, the city will lose about $7 million.

1104
01:37:05,620 --> 01:37:10,200
We've started the process along with most of the other cities throughout the state,

1105
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:19,540
We're trying to refine our budgets so that we are in a position to be able to continue to offer services depending on what happens with the property tax.

1106
01:37:20,440 --> 01:37:26,780
So, we proposed using 272,000 dollars in reserves at 7.65.

1107
01:37:27,460 --> 01:37:33,580
Tonight, the commission could say, we wanted to be 7.65 with no use of reserves.

1108
01:37:33,580 --> 01:37:39,640
We will come back with no reserves at the next budget when you pass your final budget.

1109
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:54,220
You could say seven would no reserves and we will do everything possible to get to that number and we will explain to the commission how we got to that number and the impacts that it may have eventually on city services.

1110
01:37:54,820 --> 01:38:00,480
So we are trying to be as careful as possible with the use of the reserves.

1111
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:19,920
And so, that's the answer, whether, again, whether it's like they're not, we're trying to give a respectful answer to the question why we're using some reserves, whether or not the final decision of the commission is to use reserves or not is a commission decision.

1112
01:38:21,710 --> 01:38:26,050
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker.

1113
01:38:26,750 --> 01:38:29,810
Hello, my name is Miranda Carmichael, 2040 Winners Circle.

1114
01:38:31,090 --> 01:38:33,270
I just have two couple of quick things.

1115
01:38:33,710 --> 01:38:37,650
One, I know I've been here when you guys have discussed making North Waterdale

1116
01:38:37,650 --> 01:38:40,290
Destination where people want to come.

1117
01:38:41,110 --> 01:38:43,550
I've been a small business owner, I've released commercial property.

1118
01:38:44,010 --> 01:38:49,330
I know how much those rates changing every year can impact small businesses,

1119
01:38:49,330 --> 01:38:52,350
specifically in times where discretionary spending is low.

1120
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:57,410
When you look at raising taxes on any group of people,

1121
01:38:57,790 --> 01:39:01,710
when you increase them for commercial real estate,

1122
01:39:02,310 --> 01:39:04,250
those small businesses feel that impact,

1123
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:06,330
and they may leave the city of Northwaterdale

1124
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:08,930
making it far less of a destination

1125
01:39:08,930 --> 01:39:11,790
instead of more as I believe the commission is working towards.

1126
01:39:13,370 --> 01:39:17,670
Additionally, I wanted to know

1127
01:39:17,670 --> 01:39:24,710
This slide that's up here now, some of the items that were submitted after the proposed budget was balanced,

1128
01:39:24,990 --> 01:39:30,870
how does that affect what the military looks like when those get factored into the budget?

1129
01:39:32,650 --> 01:39:38,470
Also, I look at budgets for everything in my job, in my home, for my community.

1130
01:39:39,090 --> 01:39:46,630
And I see a lot of things in looking here where decisions might need to be made, whether something is a want or a need.

1131
01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:57,350
I do want to do a lot of things around my house as presidents of my H.O.A. I want to do a lot of things around my community, but I don't always have the funding for those things.

1132
01:39:57,890 --> 01:39:59,970
So I ask you to please consider what is-

1133
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:06,840
There's a really necessary now, and what maybe we can start partially funding for leader on down the road. Thank you very much.

1134
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:07,840
Thank you.

1135
01:40:12,780 --> 01:40:17,560
Okay, I've seen no more speakers.

1136
01:40:19,660 --> 01:40:21,600
We will bring

1137
01:40:24,610 --> 01:40:27,790
you back to the commission for questions.

1138
01:40:29,130 --> 01:40:34,470
We're going to leave the Malaysian budget, please, before we go on, or should we go motion?

1139
01:40:36,510 --> 01:40:37,770
Do you reckon?

1140
01:40:38,210 --> 01:40:39,750
Well, let me be fair.

1141
01:40:40,530 --> 01:40:42,010
Are you sure I didn't?

1142
01:40:42,350 --> 01:40:43,170
Okay, can we say yes?

1143
01:40:44,130 --> 01:40:45,710
All right, thank you.

1144
01:40:46,590 --> 01:40:46,830
There.

1145
01:40:47,650 --> 01:40:50,630
I want us to say, first off, thank everyone for coming out tonight.

1146
01:40:50,890 --> 01:40:52,950
It's kind of good to see everyone here tonight.

1147
01:40:52,950 --> 01:40:59,390
voice therapy and shows that you guys are 10 of them, the alert, paying attention, but I

1148
01:40:59,390 --> 01:41:04,870
do want to just reiterate that that 8.4 was a proposed budget, because we keep hearing

1149
01:41:04,870 --> 01:41:11,450
saying, y'all setting it, and that says what you guys are doing, and the April was proposed.

1150
01:41:12,150 --> 01:41:17,250
So, just understand that that's proposed as we're going towards this, also a few things

1151
01:41:17,250 --> 01:41:21,490
that I want to ex, the one on page 31 at the end,

1152
01:41:21,690 --> 01:41:25,850
it says a home rehab, a hometown program, a hero program.

1153
01:41:26,570 --> 01:41:28,910
Just tell me a little bit more about that.

1154
01:41:28,910 --> 01:41:30,670
A few people answer questions about that.

1155
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:37,200
So that is a home rehab and home town hero program.

1156
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:40,820
It's a program that the Commission established last year.

1157
01:41:41,340 --> 01:41:47,260
The home rehab helps residents make repairs to their homes,

1158
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:55,120
depending on their qualifications, it could be for a new air conditioner, it could be to expand their driveway,

1159
01:41:55,480 --> 01:41:58,220
it could be for a new roof, it could be for impact windows.

1160
01:41:59,140 --> 01:42:08,560
And so that's what the Home Rehab part is, the Home Town Hero program was a possible program

1161
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:15,980
that would allow the city to buy distress properties, renovate those distress properties,

1162
01:42:15,980 --> 01:42:24,660
and then sell them to police, officers, firefighters, schoolteachers, or some, or, or, you know,

1163
01:42:24,980 --> 01:42:35,240
in the hopes of helping turn around a neighborhood in general. That is a program that we tried to

1164
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:44,400
get a state appropriation money for. The program was widely received by our state legislators on

1165
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:49,380
sides of the aisle. However, it was not something that in the end was funded by the state. So

1166
01:42:49,380 --> 01:42:54,920
it is something that we will look at possibly for federal appropriation or an additional state

1167
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,260
appropriation to help fund that as well. But that's what that money is for.

1168
01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:04,580
So we're looking for grant money for that. We will look for additional

1169
01:43:04,580 --> 01:43:10,420
assistance, or excuse me, additional appropriation, either federal or state, not so much grant,

1170
01:43:10,420 --> 01:43:20,380
Because the state has a program that also, right, they have the My Florida Safe Program and they also have their own hometown here a program.

1171
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,180
This state, this is designed more for North Florida.

1172
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:38,920
And a question was asked on Saturday, if we were to cut some of these grants out that we are given kind of going towards more so like the older previous commissioners doing kind of being more tired or less spending.

1173
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:47,000
What were the, they kind of get more those assistance from if we weren't, not then we going to come, I'm just ex, just because it was ex Saturday.

1174
01:43:49,170 --> 01:44:03,270
Mr. Mayor, so if the city were to eliminate home rehab program, I know we also have some money from a CDVJ, which is the community development block grant that residents would still be able to apply for.

1175
01:44:03,270 --> 01:44:09,150
option that they would have to apply through the state program, the my say Florida program,

1176
01:44:09,410 --> 01:44:15,270
there was a program that we shared earlier in the year for seniors through the area agency

1177
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:21,270
of Barra County where they had money for home repairs for seniors in certain qualifications,

1178
01:44:22,090 --> 01:44:25,970
and so residents would have to turn to those programs for funding.

1179
01:44:26,670 --> 01:44:33,030
One more thing, I want you to just touch on our discretionary funding, just a little bit

1180
01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:42,290
I lead the conversation by saying most of the time people think even was brought up Saturday that that money is something like we are kind of personally get

1181
01:44:42,290 --> 01:44:50,950
But could you just explain the discretionary and the even the history with how the 1500 comes in and just explain that just a little bit for everyone

1182
01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:52,790
So Mr. Mayor the

1183
01:44:53,350 --> 01:44:58,650
The discretionary money was originally part of the city's waste management contract

1184
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,480
To go all the way back into the weeds, they had originally earmarked $7,500 to go towards events.

1185
01:45:06,540 --> 01:45:08,840
And it was just a blanket term events.

1186
01:45:09,260 --> 01:45:13,560
At the time, the prior commission, not this commission,

1187
01:45:14,340 --> 01:45:19,920
asked if it could go towards the commission to use for district events

1188
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,940
or to help not for profits or other groups.

1189
01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:26,640
And so that was the policy that the commission established.

1190
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:36,360
And so it has to be used for a public purpose, so you can't just help somebody make a car payment or, you know, buy new refrigerator.

1191
01:45:37,380 --> 01:45:42,600
The money doesn't go to you all, there is a formal process to request the funding.

1192
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:49,260
It has to be verified that the funding meets the proper uses as outlined.

1193
01:45:49,260 --> 01:45:59,740
And then the last step would be that the commissioner or the elected official has the money still available and then the money is provided.

1194
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:17,220
So with the proposed given us the 5,000 technically to say that we're given a 3500 and the waste management we still collect the $1,500 or the 7500 from waste management so correct.

1195
01:46:17,220 --> 01:46:17,540
All right.

1196
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:18,660
That's all my questions for them.

1197
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:19,400
Right now.

1198
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:19,820
Thank you.

1199
01:46:19,820 --> 01:46:20,160
Thank you.

1200
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:21,500
Thank you.

1201
01:46:22,140 --> 01:46:22,680
Thank you.

1202
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:28,000
Thank you so much, Mayor.

1203
01:46:28,940 --> 01:46:33,140
I want to say thank you to all the staff for such a thorough presentation tonight.

1204
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:34,460
Thank you.

1205
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,940
There's several questions that I do have.

1206
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,480
We mentioned this special event contract.

1207
01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:42,240
What exactly is that?

1208
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:47,200
And do we have an amount that we actually set aside for these special events?

1209
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:59,940
So the special event contract was a position that lost budget year, the commission created a special event person within the Parks and Recreation Department.

1210
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:16,480
That was turned into a contract position and the goal or the vision is that prior to that we had a special event contract person that worked on a percentage of an event cost.

1211
01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:25,020
So if they were planning a $10,000 event for the city, their cost was 20%, so they made $2,000.

1212
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:36,220
And so the goal is to, of that, $76,000 is to eliminate $50,000, and it goes towards,

1213
01:47:36,670 --> 01:47:45,760
and then the leaving the $26,000 for that 20% percentage when special events are, when somebody

1214
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:50,800
is needed to assist with a special event, whether it's a special event that the commissioner

1215
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,480
are putting on through their discretionary funds or whether it's a special event that the city

1216
01:47:55,480 --> 01:47:56,380
is putting on.

1217
01:47:57,580 --> 01:48:04,740
The reason, actually, I think there's a lot of events that we do host at City Hall that we

1218
01:48:04,740 --> 01:48:11,920
probably could look at and also maybe collaborating and because I know when we do have these events,

1219
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:16,900
So we have to pay staff, police, and et cetera, so that's something we want to look into.

1220
01:48:17,540 --> 01:48:25,700
I would like to know if there is a way of getting a contrast between these last history for

1221
01:48:25,700 --> 01:48:30,060
these last two years versus now how much we've actually spent from the reserve.

1222
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,100
I would like to know that.

1223
01:48:32,440 --> 01:48:36,620
Now, I know a lot of this is based on November 3rd.

1224
01:48:36,620 --> 01:48:39,400
We have the property tax reform, right?

1225
01:48:40,540 --> 01:48:49,680
And so I know a lot will change depending on how votes go on November the 3rd, and thank

1226
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:55,020
you staff so much because over the years you guys have dealt with a very sleek budget.

1227
01:48:57,380 --> 01:49:01,740
And I want to say this and I'm not picking, you know, trying to be the sorrow ball tonight,

1228
01:49:02,300 --> 01:49:07,080
but we need to understand because I see that we do have someone here, you know, taking content.

1229
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:12,920
And this is not content, this is real life, these are real residents, and what we put out there

1230
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:14,140
matters, right?

1231
01:49:14,140 --> 01:49:19,200
So we want to be very, very careful that we are not trying to make this look a certain

1232
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:25,480
way because many of us are concerned because, of course, the economy has changed, I mean,

1233
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:29,620
like a lot of the residents today that have fixed budgets and et cetera.

1234
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:35,420
So we would just want to make sure that whatever we put out on social media, that it is actually

1235
01:49:35,420 --> 01:49:39,300
showing exactly what's happening in this room tonight.

1236
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:43,980
I wanted to say that. The other thing is,

1237
01:49:47,530 --> 01:49:59,250
a lot of these events, and of course, you know, the last time we talked about this, I was blamed for something I said on the day is that kind of prevented the people from coming out, right?

1238
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:08,980
We have these events, we want to make sure that, because historically speaking, North Laudidad, I say this all the time, we're spoiled, right?

1239
01:50:09,580 --> 01:50:29,800
North Laudidad isn't used to certain things. And so we want to make sure that it just makes sense. And there was a resident that, you know, she mentioned a certain term. I'm not going to reiterate what she mentioned, but we are look as that, as far as I'm going to go with that.

1240
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:37,280
And so I think there's a lot of things that we can look at because this, I mean, we've been talking about this budget for a while.

1241
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:45,020
And so there's a lot of things on here that I think we can probably just kind of expound and elaborate on.

1242
01:50:45,020 --> 01:50:56,720
As far as spending where this money is going, what have we actually, the comparison again from spending from the last three years, four years, the history and now how much have we increased.

1243
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:02,340
I've heard when I came in, yes, we are looking to decrease, but I have a problem with some

1244
01:51:02,340 --> 01:51:06,400
of things that we're trying to decrease for instance, training and traveling for our staff.

1245
01:51:06,940 --> 01:51:10,460
They need training in order to train in these different areas.

1246
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:11,280
They need to travel.

1247
01:51:11,660 --> 01:51:17,340
So there's a lot of things that I feel as if this commission does not need, is not necessary.

1248
01:51:17,740 --> 01:51:22,620
And I think we can go back to the drawing ball and look at this a little thoroughly.

1249
01:51:22,620 --> 01:51:28,700
Again, thank you staff for such a great presentation, but I do think that we can do better.

1250
01:51:28,900 --> 01:51:32,900
And again, I know that we are, you know, we have a sleek budget.

1251
01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:39,920
We cannot compare ourselves to coral springs or any other the sister cities around us.

1252
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:45,860
However, there has been a lot of spending these past couple years that my opinion.

1253
01:51:46,340 --> 01:51:51,260
And because of facts and because me talking to staff as well, I don't feel it was necessary.

1254
01:51:51,260 --> 01:51:53,780
Thank you so much.

1255
01:51:54,540 --> 01:51:56,180
Thank you any other commissioner?

1256
01:51:57,900 --> 01:51:58,480
To the chair.

1257
01:51:58,500 --> 01:51:59,860
You recognize my commissioner.

1258
01:52:01,900 --> 01:52:09,180
Thank you finance and all the departments that are involved in getting this budget done.

1259
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:12,120
And we have worked really gently for a long time.

1260
01:52:13,060 --> 01:52:21,180
And listening to Commissioner Martin, she made a point that I completely agree with as it relates to

1261
01:52:21,180 --> 01:52:26,640
parks and recreation training because for training it's very important that the staff knows

1262
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:31,520
what they're doing there. They're dealing with children. And the safety of children there

1263
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:40,660
laws are very strict as it really is the children. So I would like to see that some funds

1264
01:52:40,660 --> 01:52:49,760
but put back in where we're looking at training seminars and increasing it so that they stop

1265
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:53,300
and get exactly what they need to get.

1266
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,120
So my proposal, as it relates to all this,

1267
01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:00,680
is that we, as commissioners and mayor,

1268
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,660
we have a duty to the city and to the residents

1269
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:09,100
and everyone is feeling the pinch is hard for everyone.

1270
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:13,280
So I recommend that we are going to show leadership

1271
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:21,900
and we should give back 5% of our salary to help to balance the budget.

1272
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:29,020
I'm hoping that all of our other commissioners and mares will see this as

1273
01:53:29,020 --> 01:53:32,300
some way we can help our residents.

1274
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:35,180
I hope everybody agrees with that. I agree.

1275
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:44,840
All right, you don't commission?

1276
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:46,680
Oh, thank you, Mayor. Yes.

1277
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:50,260
I swear if you have anything to say yes please, you're recognized.

1278
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:56,500
I just want to say something about the mirroreds.

1279
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:05,920
I would like to propose to keep 7.4 and set it all nowhere else because I speak with quite

1280
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:13,880
a few residents and not nobody is happy at all, you know, if we go up one point because that

1281
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:27,840
I mean, if we go up to 7.65, it's going to be about $100 per year at every resident of

1282
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:36,780
base it on $400,000, so out there, the people are not happy at all, if we move that number

1283
01:54:36,780 --> 01:54:43,760
at all, so we, I understand that I've been living here in this city.

1284
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:52,280
for almost 40 years, 40 years, and I understand, I understand the rest of us and I talk

1285
01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:59,060
to a lot of residents out there and I believe we should move that number at all, because

1286
01:54:59,060 --> 01:54:59,960
uh, it's...

1287
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:11,560
1,100 dollars per year, base it on $400,000 unit, you know, a property. Thank you. All right, every

1288
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:19,160
nice spoke now. Let me as a CDM, thank you very much. Mr. Manager, what is the approximate revenue

1289
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:33,380
difference between 7.6500 mills in the 7.4 if for that side of this and if the

1290
01:55:33,380 --> 01:55:39,140
commission were to adopt 7.4 tonight what adjustment would be necessary.

1291
01:55:39,780 --> 01:55:47,560
So Mr. Mayor, the slide before you shows that at 7.4 mills right we would collect

1292
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:56,500
$19,965 compared to 20.6 million, so we would collect $600,000 less.

1293
01:55:57,280 --> 01:56:02,880
It would using today's budget, right, if we cut nothing else out of the budget, it would

1294
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:09,840
require use of $674,000 out of fund balance in order to give you a balance budget.

1295
01:56:10,180 --> 01:56:17,480
If the direction from the commission tonight is to roam the budget from $6,7.65 to $7.4.

1296
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:29,040
The next question we would ask is, where are you comfortable with use of fund balance so that we can finalize and give you back a budget at the end of September?

1297
01:56:29,980 --> 01:56:35,140
Are you okay with the $675,000? Do you want that lowered?

1298
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:41,500
It requires, because this is going to require four fifths vote of the elected officials.

1299
01:56:41,500 --> 01:56:49,500
And so I'd like to get that as well so that when we give you the budget, when we meet again on September 28th,

1300
01:56:50,820 --> 01:56:52,680
we're giving you exactly what you want.

1301
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,660
Okay, yeah, but I understand that we can just look at cuts.

1302
01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:03,500
I'd like to see, I know that government should be able to first look carefully at

1303
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:13,080
efficiencies, expenditures, and alternative revenues before asking the reason to, before we

1304
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,480
go to that direction there.

1305
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:20,900
So with that said, there's so many other options alternative would like to explore to see

1306
01:57:20,900 --> 01:57:29,620
how we can get that done, because I really support the proposed, what the Vice-Mayor

1307
01:57:29,620 --> 01:57:35,960
mentioned for 7.4 miles, but while we'll still maintain essential service that we need

1308
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:43,100
and directly administer to bring us a balanced budget consistent with that rate and finding

1309
01:57:43,100 --> 01:57:51,160
outside source resources there's plenty option there and we got time to do that. So I

1310
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:55,040
have the

1311
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:55,620
presentation.

1312
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:05,120
I see the numbers which is showed here and most importantly we heard from the

1313
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:08,000
that we're not just tonight, but we're before, and that's what we're

1314
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:12,000
explained. We have a lot of residents here. And I'm glad people had an

1315
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,840
opportunity to hear to understand or not everybody understand what's

1316
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,660
going on, but to understand the role of everyone.

1317
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,100
And I know what the CD has

1318
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:28,080
important obligations and important projects that we have ahead of us. One of the

1319
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:36,200
page was shown other project that not expensive, not on the budget, and wisely someone

1320
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,080
has the question about that, all these needs to be answered,

1321
01:58:41,540 --> 01:58:42,820
and we still must continue

1322
01:58:42,820 --> 01:58:47,280
providing public safety and infrastructure that is very important.

1323
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:56,840
The parks, a program for youth and seniors, the essential services, before I move on to the

1324
01:58:56,840 --> 01:59:02,980
I just want to know how one one one reason mentioned that earlier

1325
01:59:04,100 --> 01:59:06,120
How did we get from

1326
01:59:06,740 --> 01:59:12,200
I believe 40,000 to 60,000 for the park jacepart and 200,000

1327
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:14,360
And

1328
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:19,540
For the landings to go all way to up to two minutes. I don't understand that

1329
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,880
If we could get that response first sure so

1330
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:27,920
That landings park is a grant that the city applied for.

1331
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:32,500
It is a federal land water conservation fund grant.

1332
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:41,460
And so our match for that grant is a $3 million grant if we get the grant.

1333
01:59:42,180 --> 01:59:45,340
Our share of that will be 50%.

1334
01:59:45,340 --> 01:59:52,620
So we would pay $1.5 million and the state share would be $1.5 million if there's any

1335
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:59,180
to the project, it would then come out of the general fund or decide you have to pay the additional.

1336
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:19,400
It's, you can't amend a concrete grant once you apply for it. And so right now, there's no money set aside in the upcoming fiscal year for that, because we still have not, still have not gotten the agreements as we've shared with the commission before from the federal government.

1337
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:26,140
And so until we get a contract for the city attorney's office to review and for the commission

1338
02:00:26,140 --> 02:00:30,720
to enter into, that project is just on the wish list.

1339
02:00:30,940 --> 02:00:31,540
The same.

1340
02:00:31,580 --> 02:00:35,800
If you look down on that list, you'll also see Hampton Binds Park is also a $3 million.

1341
02:00:36,500 --> 02:00:40,220
A $3 million grant that, again, same thing.

1342
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:45,520
It's a landlord of grant, $1.5 million from the federal government, $1.5 million from

1343
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:46,040
the city.

1344
02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:51,760
And again, that one was awarded, but again, we haven't gotten the contract yet, and so those

1345
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:57,320
are still in limbo as to whether or not we will either even get contracts from the federal

1346
02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:00,660
government for the, we certainly hope we do, but we haven't gotten those contracts.

1347
02:01:00,860 --> 02:01:06,440
But those are not in this current year's, or excuse me, they're not in the proposed budget

1348
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:11,860
for next year, those are in outlier years, because by the time we get the contract and are

1349
02:01:11,860 --> 02:01:16,780
to it and then start going out for bids, it'll take a whole year before all those contracts

1350
02:01:16,780 --> 02:01:17,440
can be awarded.

1351
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:18,540
All right.

1352
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:19,340
Thank you very much.

1353
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:23,580
Now, it's been, well, I'm going to make it there.

1354
02:01:25,180 --> 02:01:34,860
Mayors have been wrongly forced accused of raising taxes, well, rightfully so, the mayors

1355
02:01:34,860 --> 02:01:41,480
make a motion there, making a motion to amend the proposed operating military from

1356
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:48,380
547.6, 502.7.4, mills improved the

1357
02:01:48,380 --> 02:01:52,100
management ordinance on the first reading as amended,

1358
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:54,180
and subject to all requirements,

1359
02:01:54,420 --> 02:01:56,440
statutory calculation in driving

1360
02:01:56,760 --> 02:01:58,440
memes cosmetics attorney,

1361
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:00,760
could you confirm if

1362
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:02,480
this is proper motion please?

1363
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:06,060
Promotion is proper, is just changing

1364
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,760
… the re, which was

1365
02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:23,940
which we read as at $7.6,000, or $7.6, $5,00 for $1,000 of taxable access property value to $7.4,000.

1366
02:02:27,070 --> 02:02:30,170
That would be the change I would be noted by the city clerk.

1367
02:02:31,250 --> 02:02:31,590
Okay.

1368
02:02:31,990 --> 02:02:32,830
Yes, it's second.

1369
02:02:33,150 --> 02:02:33,310
Okay.

1370
02:02:33,410 --> 02:02:33,990
Thank you.

1371
02:02:34,070 --> 02:02:35,510
Madam Clerk, the roll call please.

1372
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:38,220
Commissioner Martin?

1373
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:42,060
Through the chair.

1374
02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:42,460
Yes.

1375
02:02:42,460 --> 02:02:44,880
But wouldn't that be proposed by Commissioner?

1376
02:02:47,300 --> 02:02:49,340
Madam, we're not finding here.

1377
02:02:49,780 --> 02:02:51,920
Madam, we just want to make sure

1378
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:55,760
that this is, you know, done appropriately

1379
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:56,920
because I heard.

1380
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:00,340
Okay, let me ask, let me ask hold on, hold on, let me ask.

1381
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,960
Vice Mayor, we're not here, we're not here to divide ourselves.

1382
02:03:04,420 --> 02:03:06,200
We're here for one, we are here for one.

1383
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:07,620
It's not about credit anything.

1384
02:03:07,860 --> 02:03:10,700
We're here, we're here to do the right thing.

1385
02:03:10,700 --> 02:03:17,760
Vice Mayor proposed, but he did not see never said emotion. He said right we're on the same page

1386
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,800
It doesn't matter if you want to if you want to lick the motion go ahead

1387
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:26,780
It doesn't matter who makes the motion because all is about is want to reduce it from I could even go lower than that

1388
02:03:26,780 --> 02:03:31,460
It doesn't matter who makes the motion the motion is to be who amended?

1389
02:03:31,460 --> 02:03:35,840
I just made an amendment to that separate. We're on the same page. No, we are on this thing

1390
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:37,480
But we also want to make sure

1391
02:03:37,480 --> 02:03:43,980
This is fine. That's fine. Let's be on the same page. Let's not let's go on the same page.

1392
02:03:43,980 --> 02:03:48,120
It's just because I've seen China 57 here and I want to make sure that content.

1393
02:03:48,860 --> 02:03:55,740
What is being said and done here is the language, the energy, everything that the residents are being seen.

1394
02:03:55,820 --> 02:04:00,500
Who they are and we're not trying to put content out here trying to make it seem like it's something else.

1395
02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:02,560
So that's all.

1396
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:09,260
Okay, it's Madam Clerk the motion is been moved in seconded. Please do the roll call. Thank you

1397
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:12,940
Yes, of course

1398
02:04:12,940 --> 02:04:18,580
Commissioner who is Rickets. Yes, by Mayor Boost of Montenegro. Yes

1399
02:04:18,580 --> 02:04:23,260
Commissioner Lewis. Yes, and Mayor Bourgillard. Yes

1400
02:04:29,890 --> 02:04:33,030
Okay, we will now move to

1401
02:04:34,290 --> 02:04:36,450
proceed to item three

1402
02:04:36,450 --> 02:04:45,370
to the chair. Do I have to make a motion about or 5% decrease? If you choose, so

1403
02:04:45,370 --> 02:04:52,210
my, my, my, my, I'm attorney. Well, you say. Oh, all of that. I, I, I, unless you come back to another.

1404
02:04:52,630 --> 02:04:57,090
The thing I believe that it's probably more appropriate in the budget. Yes.

1405
02:04:57,090 --> 02:04:59,970
Then it was in the military. Right. Okay. Okay.

1406
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:05,020
So, you can reserve that and present it then. Okay. Thank you. All right.

1407
02:05:05,380 --> 02:05:07,540
Let's make a clarification. Okay.

1408
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:11,100
That takes us to 87.

1409
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:17,020
We'll proceed to item 3B. Yes. First reading.

1410
02:05:18,890 --> 02:05:26,530
An ordinance of the city commission of the city of Northwaterdale, Florida, adopting the attached annual budget for

1411
02:05:26,530 --> 02:05:32,670
City of North Florida deal for the period beginning October 1st, 2026, and ending September

1412
02:05:33,610 --> 02:05:40,350
3027, providing for budget for the general fund, special revenue funds, capital project

1413
02:05:40,350 --> 02:05:47,790
fund, enterprise fund, and internal service funds, allocating appropriating and authorizing

1414
02:05:47,790 --> 02:05:54,890
expenses in accordance with, and for the purposes stated in said budget, providing for

1415
02:05:54,890 --> 02:06:01,830
military, providing possibility, providing for conflict, and providing an effective date.

1416
02:06:03,960 --> 02:06:04,120
Okay.

1417
02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:09,660
City Manager Electric just present, make sure you present where we're going to present it, and

1418
02:06:09,660 --> 02:06:16,260
explain any adjustment necessary to make the budget consistent with the military to adopt it.

1419
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:18,560
Good evening again, Mr. Mayor.

1420
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:24,500
Members of the Commission, employees and residents, so with the approval of the commission tonight

1421
02:06:24,500 --> 02:06:32,760
to reduce the budget to 7.4 mls. We will work over the next week. We can have to prepare

1422
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:40,600
a revised budget for you. That looks at potentially additional revenue sources, as well as

1423
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:47,920
additional programs or projects that could be pushed down the road a little bit, or could be

1424
02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:52,520
to give you a balanced budget at 7.4 mills.

1425
02:06:52,900 --> 02:07:01,000
I will just show you that the budget itself, right, is an increase of 3.1%.

1426
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:10,040
If you look at all the funds, and so we will go through that 161 million dollar budget,

1427
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:17,400
and we will find ways to reduce to bring you back a balanced budget at 7.4 mills.

1428
02:07:18,420 --> 02:07:29,460
Okay, so we won't, yeah, we won't need necessary any additional time for tonight to

1429
02:07:29,460 --> 02:07:29,940
numbers.

1430
02:07:30,220 --> 02:07:30,800
We're going to wait for that.

1431
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:31,220
No, sir.

1432
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,900
Tonight, we'll just be approving the ordinance first reading.

1433
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:39,000
And then it will come back to you again for a second reading that will be revised

1434
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:41,280
to meet the new Miller's right that you gave.

1435
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:43,320
All right.

1436
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:51,340
Potentially new assessments as well because the budget covers everything so sure depending on what you do with assessments tonight as well

1437
02:07:51,340 --> 02:07:56,000
That'll be the final item that comes back to you. Okay, all right, so

1438
02:07:59,050 --> 02:08:01,830
We're gonna have that present procedure right now, right?

1439
02:08:03,190 --> 02:08:04,390
Just done

1440
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:09,820
The idea is that the

1441
02:08:09,820 --> 02:08:15,880
The budget that was being proposed to you is subject to revision because of the changes you may

1442
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:23,960
Right. Right. So, therefore, it would be moved on first reading with the adjustments to be made.

1443
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:29,700
So, that a second reading, you could have a better review and know for sure what's included in the budget.

1444
02:08:30,140 --> 02:08:33,760
So, this is just a proving so that we could move to the second reading.

1445
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:37,820
But not a proving the budget, because we know the budget is incorrect,

1446
02:08:38,120 --> 02:08:40,500
and we'll be adjusted between now and second reading.

1447
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:44,780
Right, but for some of my question right now, the assessment, are we going to discuss that right now?

1448
02:08:44,780 --> 02:08:54,020
the assessment is yes we're going to go on to it when we get to for a right but for

1449
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:59,160
3b you're just going to move it to the second reading you're going to approve it

1450
02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:14,560
until the second reading where you get more details. Okay at this time you have the

1451
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:25,200
meeting with amendments. Right. Motion doubles on first meeting, knowing that the second

1452
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,500
meeting will have a digital edition change.

1453
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:35,320
So that was the motion. So second there.

1454
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:42,240
Okay. Any question comments? Have you non-motain clerk the roll please? Commissioner Martin?

1455
02:09:42,980 --> 02:09:56,440
Yes. Commissioner Lewis Wreck-up? Yes. Vice Mayor Booster Monet? Yes. Commissioner Lewis? Yes. Mayor Board John. Yes, it's 712. Madam Attorney, you have the floor.

1456
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:20,140
We need to go back to your issue, maybe, at this time, we passed the budget subject to certain changes, maybe you want to now say for another amendment.

1457
02:10:20,140 --> 02:10:30,260
Okay. I'd like to propose that you want me to say what I want. You're making a motion

1458
02:10:30,260 --> 02:10:35,680
that the budget when it returns to be amended to include

1459
02:10:38,050 --> 02:10:39,250
a five percent

1460
02:10:39,250 --> 02:10:43,190
of budget in the commission of pay.

1461
02:10:43,190 --> 02:10:45,650
You need a second.

1462
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:51,850
I had some stuff into that. Any question? Any comments?

1463
02:10:51,850 --> 02:10:53,470
comments please.

1464
02:10:53,470 --> 02:10:54,010
Yeah, come.

1465
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:55,310
Recognize.

1466
02:10:55,430 --> 02:10:56,210
Thank you.

1467
02:10:56,570 --> 02:11:01,010
I also additionally question about the events that we've been having, the month

1468
02:11:01,010 --> 02:11:06,590
the events that were kind of like add on, that we really don't have a lot of residents that come out to those events

1469
02:11:06,590 --> 02:11:11,170
and the last event we had City Manager in my stress and you out tonight.

1470
02:11:11,970 --> 02:11:12,630
No, no, no, no.

1471
02:11:12,690 --> 02:11:12,770
Okay.

1472
02:11:13,630 --> 02:11:14,070
Okay.

1473
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:14,350
Okay.

1474
02:11:14,350 --> 02:11:18,410
So the last one we did had, I mean, we were negative like $50,000 I believe.

1475
02:11:18,410 --> 02:11:25,410
So is there any way that we can cut back on these extra events that were having on a monthly basis

1476
02:11:25,410 --> 02:11:30,230
because that's including staff, police, and all this other stuff that we have, and I think that

1477
02:11:30,230 --> 02:11:31,350
also helped to budget?

1478
02:11:40,700 --> 02:11:47,060
So, Sharon, if you could go to that slide, those were one of the events that are one of the items

1479
02:11:47,060 --> 02:11:48,560
that is not yet in the budget.

1480
02:11:49,500 --> 02:11:52,380
So, no action is really needed on that at this time.

1481
02:11:52,380 --> 02:11:52,840
sort

1482
02:12:02,250 --> 02:12:07,550
of numbered. So it's below the feasibility study for special projects. There is a quarterly

1483
02:12:07,550 --> 02:12:13,030
event there. That's $100,000. That's not included in the budget.

1484
02:12:13,710 --> 02:12:17,770
Is it as $100,000? $100,000. Not included. Not included.

1485
02:12:19,770 --> 02:12:26,430
So city attorney, what would I have to do on my end to make sure that at this time,

1486
02:12:26,430 --> 02:12:31,110
time, since it's not in the budget, you don't need to make a motion on it.

1487
02:12:31,450 --> 02:12:36,630
What you would do is look at the budget when it comes to a second reading and it's been

1488
02:12:36,630 --> 02:12:37,190
second reading.

1489
02:12:37,390 --> 02:12:41,250
It now is included in the budget, you could make a motion at that time.

1490
02:12:42,110 --> 02:12:48,830
And can you also get or can you send to my office, I'm seeing a manager, how much we've

1491
02:12:48,830 --> 02:12:51,510
been sending on these events, please?

1492
02:12:52,270 --> 02:12:53,030
Yes, ma'am.

1493
02:12:53,630 --> 02:12:54,350
We'll send it to everybody.

1494
02:12:54,690 --> 02:12:55,130
Thank you.

1495
02:12:56,090 --> 02:12:57,170
Look, sure.

1496
02:12:57,550 --> 02:12:58,310
You all record, guys?

1497
02:12:58,830 --> 02:13:01,650
Oh, well, we're talking about making some cuts.

1498
02:13:03,290 --> 02:13:06,650
I'm going to go on the lines of acts, potentially.

1499
02:13:07,690 --> 02:13:11,130
I know it's going to be very contrary to me, because, you know, I spend my discretionary

1500
02:13:12,650 --> 02:13:18,770
in one month, but maybe potentially cutting that in half, and cutting our travel in half, too.

1501
02:13:24,010 --> 02:13:25,330
That's our total.

1502
02:13:25,330 --> 02:13:31,330
So I was 5,000, 20,500 and cut our travel down from I believe it's 10,000 to 5,000.

1503
02:13:32,730 --> 02:13:34,450
12,000. 12,000. We cut it again.

1504
02:13:37,490 --> 02:13:39,470
We don't travel as much as no more so.

1505
02:13:39,610 --> 02:13:40,710
Can I second that motion?

1506
02:13:43,410 --> 02:13:45,090
Okay, so the motion is.

1507
02:13:45,090 --> 02:13:45,670
What's the motion?

1508
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:52,080
I know we have a motion, but I said what was adding on that. What was doing that?

1509
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,320
Do we want to pass the first motion then do a second one?

1510
02:13:58,200 --> 02:14:03,780
The cutting travel is for the commission or for the commission.

1511
02:14:03,780 --> 02:14:11,660
for the commission? I believe that should we pass the first one first? No, I'm just going through the

1512
02:14:12,660 --> 02:14:19,660
logic. So we had a motion. The motion was to approve on first reading, knowing that we are going to make

1513
02:14:19,660 --> 02:14:26,260
adjustments in the second reading. I believe that what is really going on now is that we are

1514
02:14:26,260 --> 02:14:33,760
The Commission is seeking to direct the city manager with respect to what's specific.

1515
02:14:33,820 --> 02:14:34,380
Yes.

1516
02:14:34,900 --> 02:14:36,500
Reduction should be made.

1517
02:14:37,140 --> 02:14:39,120
We made it as a motion before.

1518
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:41,900
Commissioned the lowest vacant.

1519
02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:45,340
Made a motion to reduce commission salary.

1520
02:14:46,980 --> 02:14:51,420
It could have been just a consensus that everybody agrees to.

1521
02:14:51,420 --> 02:14:52,800
I think it's probably accurate.

1522
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:53,960
That's what we should do.

1523
02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:55,760
And now you could continue

1524
02:14:56,700 --> 02:14:59,980
Did you hear that it was really a consensus not so much emotion in it?

1525
02:15:00,460 --> 02:15:18,740
And now you can continue making these recommendations, directing the city managers. And now you've made two different ones. One was, you wanted to direct the city manager to cut the discretionary budget for the commissioners in health.

1526
02:15:18,820 --> 02:15:19,800
Commissioners in health.

1527
02:15:19,980 --> 02:15:25,860
That's a direction. Do you have a, you, the mayor has to determine whether you have a consensus with that.

1528
02:15:27,990 --> 02:15:28,050
Okay.

1529
02:15:28,050 --> 02:15:37,970
To the chair, clarification, we have got the discussioner funds from 10 to 5.

1530
02:15:38,510 --> 02:15:39,470
And I'm trying to cut it again.

1531
02:15:39,650 --> 02:15:41,510
So you want to cut it to 2,500?

1532
02:15:43,110 --> 02:15:44,290
One second, one second.

1533
02:15:45,210 --> 02:15:47,150
Can I speak please?

1534
02:15:47,470 --> 02:15:50,450
I listen to you all, even from 6 o'clock.

1535
02:15:50,730 --> 02:15:52,670
5 o'clock can I just have some respect?

1536
02:15:53,110 --> 02:15:53,950
Thank you.

1537
02:15:53,950 --> 02:16:09,750
I'm just trying to clarify from 5,000 to 2,500, but that does not include our 1,500 that we got before or the 1,000 from waste management that's divided up among 5.

1538
02:16:10,030 --> 02:16:14,930
Can you just clarify so we know exactly what exactly they're cutting. Thank you so much.

1539
02:16:15,470 --> 02:16:21,970
So the 1,500 that we get from could be included, so I guess we just get an extra little something.

1540
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:30,680
You understand? No. So we get 1500. Okay, and then we're adding a set of and 3500

1541
02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:37,380
Because it's 15, but 35, we go 5, 1,000

1542
02:16:37,380 --> 02:16:42,620
1500, but 35. Yeah, so I'm just trying to I'm just trying to do it all the way in half

1543
02:16:42,620 --> 02:16:46,620
So 1500 in a thousand dollars from up that way

1544
02:16:46,620 --> 02:16:52,860
But we just get rid of the extra money in just 2 to 1,500. Okay, yeah, let me let me say something here. Let me say something

1545
02:16:52,860 --> 02:16:57,860
Yeah, we're spending our time looking at, yes, five thousand hold on, five thousand

1546
02:16:57,860 --> 02:17:02,660
he's five thousand there, where is the big issue, the elephant, nobody wants to talk

1547
02:17:02,660 --> 02:17:07,360
about those things there. I mean, this is, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I want

1548
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:10,060
to make sure, I want to make sure, I want to make sure, I want to make sure, I want

1549
02:17:10,060 --> 02:17:15,020
to understand what's going on here, we're talking about cuts, we're talking about big projects

1550
02:17:15,860 --> 02:17:21,860
there. Nobody's looking at those, there's really make a difference. After we've done

1551
02:17:21,860 --> 02:17:28,500
tonight, cutting 5,010,000, we're still going to be in the worst, the same position, we never

1552
02:17:28,500 --> 02:17:34,240
moved, we never moved the needle at all. So listen, listen, I want you to understand,

1553
02:17:34,540 --> 02:17:40,520
I'm all for, if we want, if it's one of, we want to put our direction, we can, we're there,

1554
02:17:41,140 --> 02:17:47,220
but we still miss the boat. We're talking about millions of dollars that need to cut to be cut.

1555
02:17:47,220 --> 02:17:49,860
What is 10,000, 50,000 cities that we're going to do?

1556
02:17:50,020 --> 02:17:50,180
Nothing.

1557
02:17:50,980 --> 02:17:53,420
It's not going to do anything there, but let's be real.

1558
02:17:53,860 --> 02:17:56,260
And this is why, this is why, this is why.

1559
02:17:56,900 --> 02:18:05,560
I had proposed that we had a citizen budget review committee,

1560
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:09,960
to have all the citizens here in the city, to sit on the committee,

1561
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:15,000
to say exactly like a pizza where you want your average tax

1562
02:18:15,580 --> 02:18:19,660
to spend and we didn't have that. We still have not achieved that and I'm going to

1563
02:18:19,660 --> 02:18:23,520
believe in the commission for not doing their job and administration also

1564
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:29,080
staff because it was the citizen would be behind the wheel say for the whole

1565
02:18:29,080 --> 02:18:33,320
year where and where you need to cut and remove it. We wouldn't been sitting here

1566
02:18:33,320 --> 02:18:38,260
discussing 5,000 things and 1,000. We would have been really be where we need to be

1567
02:18:38,260 --> 02:18:42,440
and we still can do it. But this is what I want to say. Let's be serious about it.

1568
02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:47,900
We're just cutting for cutting or just cutting responsibly where we need to make some adjustment

1569
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:53,480
That's all I'm gonna say I'm not gonna go any further than that. We have enough time to do it. Let's go ahead

1570
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:59,340
Yes, I only made suggestion because I believe that we start with cutting the rest with follow. I understand

1571
02:18:59,340 --> 02:19:01,900
I understand but I just said I

1572
02:19:02,560 --> 02:19:03,960
Please please, okay

1573
02:19:04,460 --> 02:19:07,180
I'm gonna have to set some order. I'm a good as please

1574
02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:12,260
We do not keep on applause at this point. Otherwise we have to do it for everything

1575
02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:22,060
This is a we see thing business series, that's all it is, okay? I appreciate that. So I'm I'm just I'm not against I'm not against it. That's good.

1576
02:19:22,560 --> 02:19:35,660
I just want to make sure we really see that that's what the job is for the city is there. To do job proposed this cuts different we can still do it. But let's make sure we cut a big chunk of the money that we need to.

1577
02:19:35,660 --> 02:19:41,560
and everywhere across the city, and then we'll accomplish something valuable.

1578
02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:43,560
That's all I'm going to say.

1579
02:19:44,740 --> 02:19:48,520
If it's when it comes to salary, I can't even work for free, that's not my issue.

1580
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:51,200
But let's address the big issues there.

1581
02:19:51,360 --> 02:19:55,120
We have floating issues, we have things, we have big projects out there.

1582
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:57,200
Those are the things we need to touch of those.

1583
02:19:57,300 --> 02:19:59,980
We have big salaries, we have our position, they can...

1584
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:08,120
This is, we have a project that could wait some, let's look at those also. Let's look at those.

1585
02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:16,100
In reality, that's all. Okay, and that's fine. Yes, yes, you recognize, because we're wasting a lot of time on looking at that.

1586
02:20:16,520 --> 02:20:18,960
That's why we have department just for that. You look at that.

1587
02:20:18,960 --> 02:20:29,260
I want to say something about this savings, we're talking about $10,000. If we're going to cut whatever we had to cut on save some money.

1588
02:20:29,260 --> 02:20:34,840
If we save $10,000, it's going to be $60 to sense their house.

1589
02:20:35,340 --> 02:20:38,380
What are we going to do with the $60 to sense?

1590
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:40,240
Her house, nothing.

1591
02:20:41,060 --> 02:20:45,540
I mean, really, it's not, I mean, I don't know what we're doing here.

1592
02:20:45,940 --> 02:20:48,220
I mean, is that responsible like the mayor says?

1593
02:20:48,680 --> 02:20:51,320
We've got to be responsible for them with money.

1594
02:20:51,900 --> 02:20:56,720
I mean, if I say that I'm going to save $1,000 per home, it's okay.

1595
02:20:56,720 --> 02:21:01,780
I like to, you know, the residents have money to pay the bills.

1596
02:21:02,180 --> 02:21:06,500
I like that, but, you know, we got to be responsible with the money.

1597
02:21:07,140 --> 02:21:16,400
Really, you know, because I hear this guy, he got to pay $100,000 more per his building.

1598
02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:18,220
It is crazy.

1599
02:21:19,100 --> 02:21:26,600
We got to, you know, to work, I mean, we're working for the residents really, and we got to do something about it.

1600
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:49,920
We got to work on that. We got to save money on taxes, somehow, somewhere. I don't know, I mean, I'm not, I don't know how to do that, those things, but, you know, we can, I mean, we can do something up here, against that, whoever is paying big money on taxes, but I don't know how to do that.

1601
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:54,960
We got to get help from cities stuff, really.

1602
02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:57,240
To the chair.

1603
02:21:57,520 --> 02:21:58,020
All right.

1604
02:21:58,240 --> 02:21:58,560
To the chair.

1605
02:21:58,980 --> 02:21:59,200
You can.

1606
02:21:59,440 --> 02:22:00,080
OK, yes.

1607
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:00,840
You need a device.

1608
02:22:01,140 --> 02:22:02,960
Hi, with you, Vice Mayor.

1609
02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:06,080
However, when we're looking at cutting, we have to, I mean,

1610
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:10,840
this is the expertise of the city manager's deputy finance

1611
02:22:10,840 --> 02:22:11,280
people.

1612
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:15,920
When we're cutting, we have to make sure that the residents don't

1613
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:24,360
We don't shortchange the residents for what needs to keep this city going, but I do agree that we have to look

1614
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:28,700
I mean we look at the panis we need to look at the pounds, so thank you so much

1615
02:22:28,700 --> 02:22:29,340
We got 16

1616
02:22:29,640 --> 02:22:30,660
Thanks for the chance

1617
02:22:30,660 --> 02:22:32,380
I love you know

1618
02:22:32,380 --> 02:22:32,800
Oh, 15

1619
02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:34,780
Yes, you were a good next

1620
02:22:34,780 --> 02:22:36,180
10,000 miles and miles

1621
02:22:36,180 --> 02:22:37,000
I think it's 16

1622
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:38,040
Over 60 cents

1623
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:38,840
Where?

1624
02:22:39,320 --> 02:22:39,760
Home

1625
02:22:39,760 --> 02:22:40,980
Which is nothing

1626
02:22:40,980 --> 02:22:42,340
Okay, yeah you're a recognized

1627
02:22:42,340 --> 02:22:44,800
Thank you so much Mayor

1628
02:22:44,800 --> 02:22:45,840
Every

1629
02:22:50,420 --> 02:22:56,040
penny does count and to hear this commission says we're looking at a little here and a little there.

1630
02:22:56,340 --> 02:23:03,720
No, that adds up. That really does adds up. And we have to stop blaming or shipping the blame, right?

1631
02:23:04,340 --> 02:23:08,180
Where we'll say things like, you know, we're blaming the commission and we're blaming the staff.

1632
02:23:08,640 --> 02:23:17,020
The staff does their job and the commission also did their job. But what I've found out over, you know, the two terms that I've been here

1633
02:23:17,020 --> 02:23:21,900
is a lot of my residents are very spectacle, I'm sorry,

1634
02:23:25,020 --> 02:23:27,760
what I just say all. Thank you.

1635
02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:34,220
On doing anything here because when they come here and they speak their mind,

1636
02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:39,940
they are afraid to join anything that we're doing because they feel like this commission tends to

1637
02:23:39,940 --> 02:23:50,580
them, right? And this is not hearsay. This is the type of emails and messages I get in my inboxes

1638
02:23:50,580 --> 02:24:01,780
from residents that are watching our live sessions here. Okay? And so as a leader we take accountability

1639
02:24:01,780 --> 02:24:10,580
and the truth is this commission have spontaneously out of the blue, we put events together,

1640
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:16,120
we've done certain things, right, and that is cost us, and we have to take responsibility

1641
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:22,200
on that, blaming anyone, but I'm saying we must take responsibility, and I know the previous

1642
02:24:22,200 --> 02:24:26,220
commission, a lot of things that we're dealing with now is because the previous commission

1643
02:24:26,220 --> 02:24:31,480
didn't make certain changes, but now that we're here and we're making a change, I would

1644
02:24:31,480 --> 02:24:39,180
to see, right, leadership, stop blaming the ship or stop, stop shifting the blame and take

1645
02:24:39,180 --> 02:24:41,320
responsibility. Thank you so much.

1646
02:24:43,780 --> 02:24:53,260
All right, but I'm commissioning you made, it was a

1647
02:24:56,440 --> 02:24:59,980
The idea is that we don't have a resolution or anything like that.

1648
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:28,700
I believe a directive regarding what can be reduced. If you have a consensus, you could provide that directive to the city manager. As there will be adjustments made, they are going to go through it. They are going to make adjustments in light of the 7.4 military. But while they are doing that, they should consider these specific things that you guys are bringing up. So, the directive from the commission, there was.

1649
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,060
The initial rule is how to directive about

1650
02:25:34,240 --> 02:25:40,600
We wanted to try to see if you could get consensus on the discretionary fund.

1651
02:25:41,960 --> 02:25:45,120
Those are two different ones, so let's just keep them separate.

1652
02:25:45,480 --> 02:25:46,920
In case everybody doesn't agree.

1653
02:25:47,640 --> 02:25:52,000
So, direction on the, on the,

1654
02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:56,000
It's not the travel on the discretionary fund.

1655
02:25:56,000 --> 02:26:01,560
And what is this number that you wanted to propose and to say it?

1656
02:26:01,560 --> 02:26:04,160
Should we do it next proposal?

1657
02:26:04,280 --> 02:26:06,940
Next I get what Mike and kind of, how are you doing now?

1658
02:26:07,180 --> 02:26:08,560
I said 20, cutting half.

1659
02:26:08,900 --> 02:26:10,860
So it was 5,000, 20,500.

1660
02:26:12,060 --> 02:26:15,100
Let's just suggest any extra details.

1661
02:26:16,320 --> 02:26:18,440
Sorry, is this for which item?

1662
02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:21,780
That was just a discretionary in general.

1663
02:26:23,340 --> 02:26:23,940
I didn't get a consensus.

1664
02:26:23,940 --> 02:26:24,900
I've just, no.

1665
02:26:25,400 --> 02:26:26,200
Yes, it's a suggestion.

1666
02:26:28,220 --> 02:26:29,680
So we come back.

1667
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:35,960
So is there something that can be completed tonight?

1668
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:36,380
Oh, no.

1669
02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:38,960
Because we can always come being back.

1670
02:26:40,160 --> 02:26:41,040
We can bring it back.

1671
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:41,160
We can bring it back.

1672
02:26:41,160 --> 02:26:41,600
The commission.

1673
02:26:41,640 --> 02:26:42,780
I'm pretty sure we're in the original.

1674
02:26:43,260 --> 02:26:48,180
And as far as traveling, I mean, I'll be a 100% agree with that.

1675
02:26:48,700 --> 02:26:49,180
Except.

1676
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:50,400
Except.

1677
02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:51,920
Those who do not travel.

1678
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:57,060
So that's why we look at what those who travel for purpose to find resources for the city.

1679
02:26:57,380 --> 02:27:02,960
I don't see any reason why I should prevent from going there from conference and training.

1680
02:27:03,100 --> 02:27:04,500
Find resources for the city.

1681
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:06,000
It could be in an individual.

1682
02:27:06,580 --> 02:27:08,260
Those who do not travel at all, that's fine.

1683
02:27:08,480 --> 02:27:08,820
That's perfect.

1684
02:27:09,020 --> 02:27:10,080
Remove it there.

1685
02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:11,000
Step by step.

1686
02:27:11,200 --> 02:27:12,240
And through the chair mayor.

1687
02:27:12,620 --> 02:27:13,060
Yes, your work.

1688
02:27:13,820 --> 02:27:15,240
So city attorney.

1689
02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:18,780
Does that also follow the recommendations for the events as well?

1690
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:20,500
So we'll talk about that next time.

1691
02:27:20,500 --> 02:27:27,620
You can talk about all of it next time if you could look at it more closely and see what events you want.

1692
02:27:27,820 --> 02:27:29,960
But right now the events are not in the budget.

1693
02:27:30,380 --> 02:27:30,420
Right.

1694
02:27:30,960 --> 02:27:35,540
Should they come into the budget then you can give you a directive about that.

1695
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,560
Or you can exit it the remote.

1696
02:27:40,100 --> 02:27:42,300
Right now there were two issues.

1697
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:49,900
It looks like the only directive that's on right now that's been established by the commission is the directive.

1698
02:27:49,900 --> 02:27:58,900
to reduce salary, commission salaries are 5%. Other than that, you don't have a consensus, it seems to me on any one of them will do you.

1699
02:27:59,780 --> 02:28:02,020
If you don't have a consensus, we'll just bring it back at the workshop.

1700
02:28:04,920 --> 02:28:12,260
So now I'm going to read what the mayor had asked me to read, which is, for A?

1701
02:28:12,580 --> 02:28:14,300
No, we didn't. No, we didn't.

1702
02:28:15,260 --> 02:28:15,500
Okay.

1703
02:28:15,500 --> 02:28:18,880
Okay, so three B's that voted on yet the city clerk points out

1704
02:28:19,700 --> 02:28:22,980
Okay, could you make the motion clear for all to understand?

1705
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:29,020
The motion was made by commission. We can barely hear upset. The motion was made by commissioner Lewis records to approve

1706
02:28:30,060 --> 02:28:35,460
Item three B with amendments and it was seconded by commissioner Martin

1707
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:38,520
Okay

1708
02:28:40,300 --> 02:28:42,100
Did a roll call, please

1709
02:28:42,100 --> 02:28:46,000
Commissioner Martin? Yes, Commissioner Lewis records. Yes

1710
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:48,340
by snare boosted Montage?

1711
02:28:48,700 --> 02:28:49,200
Commissioner Lewis?

1712
02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:50,720
Mayor, fortunately.

1713
02:28:51,900 --> 02:28:51,920
Yes.

1714
02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:52,720
It's 7.30.

1715
02:28:53,060 --> 02:28:55,180
Madam Attorney, you have to floor, please.

1716
02:29:03,380 --> 02:29:04,140
Madam Attorney.

1717
02:29:06,680 --> 02:29:11,100
I just wanted out to the city clerk that it was approved.

1718
02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:14,300
Not with amendments because we don't have specific amendments.

1719
02:29:14,800 --> 02:29:18,760
But it was approved with the directive that, on second reading,

1720
02:29:19,000 --> 02:29:23,920
it'd be brought back revised to conform to the military.

1721
02:29:24,900 --> 02:29:31,480
Okay. Item 4A. A resolution of the City Commission of the City of North Florida deal

1722
02:29:31,480 --> 02:29:36,900
Florida relating to the provision of fire rescue services, facilities and programs in the city

1723
02:29:36,900 --> 02:29:41,960
of North Florida deal Florida and posing fire assessments against the SES property located

1724
02:29:41,960 --> 02:29:47,220
within the City of North Florida deal for the fiscal year of the beginning of October 1226.

1725
02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:53,060
Approving the rate of assessment, approving the assessment role, providing for conflicts, providing

1726
02:29:53,060 --> 02:29:56,200
visibility and providing point effect to date.

1727
02:29:58,390 --> 02:29:58,950
Ready?

1728
02:29:59,470 --> 02:29:59,970
Let's see them in.

1729
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:01,460
As you're going to do the presentation.

1730
02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:08,140
Mr. Mayor, on budget manager, we'll walk you through the fire assessment numbers and then fire

1731
02:30:08,140 --> 02:30:10,640
rescue will give a brief presentation as well.

1732
02:30:10,880 --> 02:30:11,480
Thank you.

1733
02:30:11,940 --> 02:30:12,660
Go ahead, Madam.

1734
02:30:35,850 --> 02:30:36,730
All right.

1735
02:30:37,490 --> 02:30:41,470
Regarding the fire proposed budget for fiscal year 27.

1736
02:30:42,670 --> 02:30:50,770
The budget itself is a 15 million 565391.

1737
02:30:50,770 --> 02:30:59,910
thousand dollars budget. Essentially, the budget is balanced through the approval, if that is

1738
02:30:59,910 --> 02:31:09,150
done tonight, of a assessment revenues to the single family home, and of $650, or the

1739
02:31:09,150 --> 02:31:20,750
multi-family to $976. So that initially would generate revenues if approved at 12,510,665.

1740
02:31:20,750 --> 02:31:31,390
In addition to that, there's other revenues that's proposed in this budget, which totals 1,892,513.

1741
02:31:32,490 --> 02:31:40,970
So essentially there was a question that was brought up by one of the residents in regards to what was that transfer from the general fund.

1742
02:31:40,970 --> 02:31:50,130
So here it is shown that the general fund will supplement the fire fund by that 1.162196.

1743
02:31:50,290 --> 02:31:53,630
So we actually did round it to 1.2 in that slide.

1744
02:31:54,010 --> 02:32:04,050
But then this is the amount of money that the general fund would transfer from the general fund to the fire fund in order to achieve a balanced budget.

1745
02:32:04,050 --> 02:32:14,930
So when you look at the budget itself, and then the revenues total, you'll see that the revenues there is at 15 million 565391.

1746
02:32:15,350 --> 02:32:21,730
So that's how we were able to achieve a balanced budget based on the proposed expenditures in the budget.

1747
02:32:22,190 --> 02:32:27,910
And if the assessment at 65976 is passed,

1748
02:32:30,360 --> 02:32:34,200
I'm just going to skip to the back of second.

1749
02:32:41,820 --> 02:32:47,640
Actually, no, I would just pass this on to the chief, and I'm sorry, that slide is not there.

1750
02:32:56,470 --> 02:32:58,610
You need to be mayor, commissioners, city manager.

1751
02:33:00,730 --> 02:33:01,070
You're doing?

1752
02:33:02,930 --> 02:33:04,990
Talk about the raise of the assessment.

1753
02:33:05,690 --> 02:33:08,330
The assessment has been increased since 2021.

1754
02:33:09,390 --> 02:33:15,630
It's originally 278, and we're trying to increase it up to 650, and I'll break it down.

1755
02:33:16,530 --> 02:33:24,590
The cost has stayed the same for the residents since 2021, but the cost, training, and protection,

1756
02:33:24,870 --> 02:33:27,550
all of the equipment is a 24-7 operation.

1757
02:33:28,110 --> 02:33:30,330
We run 24-7, non-stop.

1758
02:33:31,630 --> 02:33:37,250
The proposal will help recover the fire protection cost to the assessments rather than the city revenue.

1759
02:33:37,750 --> 02:33:42,030
So the money instead of coming from the tax is going to be in the assessment.

1760
02:33:42,030 --> 02:33:44,630
And we're not gaining more money with the taxes,

1761
02:33:44,650 --> 02:33:46,950
we're just going to supplement it through the assessment.

1762
02:33:48,550 --> 02:33:50,810
Comparison to other cities, like the Water Hill,

1763
02:33:51,610 --> 02:33:52,970
Tamerack, Waterdale Lakes.

1764
02:33:53,870 --> 02:33:57,350
On the slide, you see what it covers.

1765
02:33:57,950 --> 02:34:03,150
And our proposal is going to cover 92, almost 93%

1766
02:34:03,150 --> 02:34:08,430
for paying the fire rescue of the 15 million.

1767
02:34:10,860 --> 02:34:13,120
So a lower assessment doesn't mean a lower cost

1768
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:19,600
the fire department. And also our city is the most responsible and one of the cheapest cities

1769
02:34:19,600 --> 02:34:22,960
compared to other counties out, rather other fire departments in Brewer County.

1770
02:34:25,160 --> 02:34:33,100
The level of service that we deliver, we average about 5,082 calls from October 25 to August

1771
02:34:33,100 --> 02:34:40,420
2026. Our average response time from dispatch to the door is 5 minutes 37 seconds. We run

1772
02:34:40,420 --> 02:34:45,120
about 338 mutual aid responses throughout our neighboring cities,

1773
02:34:45,340 --> 02:34:48,500
Tamarate, Margate, Laudahil, and our training.

1774
02:34:48,840 --> 02:34:52,740
We do about 11,500 hours of training and pre-fire planning

1775
02:34:52,740 --> 02:34:53,920
for the city.

1776
02:34:54,940 --> 02:34:58,320
Our ISO class, one of our biggest accomplishments,

1777
02:34:59,160 --> 02:34:59,980
were our ISO class of...

1778
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:21,840
There's only, there's only other 500 other fire departments nationwide that have achieved that ISO1 class. We also have an AHA GOAT standard in EMS. And we also also have a state-of-the-art fire training facility. And we invested about 2 million a lot of it from ARPA funds.

1779
02:35:25,330 --> 02:35:45,270
fiscal responsibility for fiscal year 2027, the assessment, I think is right even said, but I'll say it again, it's 12 million, 510,000 from EMS and other revenues, we got about 1.8 and the general fund transfer, which I think that was asked before.

1780
02:35:45,870 --> 02:35:54,590
So with the assessment, all we would need is 1.162 of the general fund to balance our, our, our, our 2027

1781
02:35:55,370 --> 02:35:56,870
to balance the budget.

1782
02:35:58,410 --> 02:36:00,650
And again, lowest cost per station,

1783
02:36:01,650 --> 02:36:04,610
it's about 7.7 million to run each,

1784
02:36:04,730 --> 02:36:06,790
we have two stations to run both stations,

1785
02:36:07,290 --> 02:36:09,570
which is, like I said, a lot less expensive

1786
02:36:09,570 --> 02:36:12,030
than other departments in Brewer County.

1787
02:36:13,590 --> 02:36:15,750
The bottom line at all this is the increase

1788
02:36:15,750 --> 02:36:18,870
will be an increase of 372 per year,

1789
02:36:19,530 --> 02:36:22,830
31 dollars a month, or you can say a dollar per day.

1790
02:36:22,830 --> 02:36:34,750
I know it's going to affect the citizens, but we needed to increase this for years now, and this is where we're at right now with the fire assessment.

1791
02:36:36,250 --> 02:36:41,370
We also got to understand that we've saved the taxpayers a lot of money when it comes to ARPA.

1792
02:36:41,370 --> 02:36:54,610
We use ARPA funds to make our bunker gear storage room at Station 44, which is pushes the cancer initiative for the bunker gear and to keep the firefighters safe.

1793
02:36:55,750 --> 02:37:05,070
We've funded mostly for a ladder truck through the ARPA funds, a fire engine we got through ARPA funds and a rescue unit.

1794
02:37:05,070 --> 02:37:12,950
So, we got approximately 3.17 million dollars in ARPA funds that the taxpayers did not have to pay.

1795
02:37:16,370 --> 02:37:19,690
And our capital improvements for fiscal year 2027.

1796
02:37:21,230 --> 02:37:26,430
We still have to pay remaining balance of 487,000 for a ladder truck.

1797
02:37:27,090 --> 02:37:32,070
And we're also getting another new rescue unit, which is approximately 472,000.

1798
02:37:32,070 --> 02:37:39,710
So our projected capital projects for this for fiscal year 2027 will be $1.2 million.

1799
02:37:40,350 --> 02:37:40,350
Is

1800
02:37:43,520 --> 02:37:45,880
that going to prove that any questions, please?

1801
02:37:46,860 --> 02:37:47,100
Okay.

1802
02:37:48,480 --> 02:37:56,620
This one I'd like to hear from the public we're going to fire a special assessment at this point right now.

1803
02:38:03,920 --> 02:38:05,580
You can call it first, please.

1804
02:38:06,140 --> 02:38:13,620
I'll just put a limit to, let's limit it to two minutes, please, just to think what you had is going to be four or the answer at this point.

1805
02:38:15,920 --> 02:38:24,300
Even everyone, my name is Nadine Chin Charles, and I've been a resident in Northwaterdale since 2011 when I purchased my home.

1806
02:38:25,160 --> 02:38:33,820
I know the fire chief just talked about the increase which was a headache for me when I see my proposed bill from 278 to 650.

1807
02:38:33,820 --> 02:38:38,740
It doesn't sound like much to the fire chief, but it is a lot to residents.

1808
02:38:39,680 --> 02:38:44,040
I think what you guys are forgetting is that these same residents that you're looking at

1809
02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:47,260
right now, put you guys in this position.

1810
02:38:47,960 --> 02:38:53,120
And when you guys get into this position, you guys forget about the residents that put you

1811
02:38:53,120 --> 02:38:53,900
guys there.

1812
02:38:54,420 --> 02:39:00,440
I have not seen at one point on my bill that the city of Northland is there, stands on my

1813
02:39:00,440 --> 02:39:03,400
Let's decrease something for the resonance.

1814
02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:06,980
Every year, it's an increase, guys.

1815
02:39:07,480 --> 02:39:10,020
The same water on my proposed build

1816
02:39:10,020 --> 02:39:13,900
that you're increasing is in on my monthly build.

1817
02:39:14,160 --> 02:39:16,680
The same water, the same kind, the same pride.

1818
02:39:17,100 --> 02:39:18,940
You're increasing it on the proposed build here,

1819
02:39:19,000 --> 02:39:23,540
but when I get my monthly build, it is also on there.

1820
02:39:23,720 --> 02:39:25,520
So I'm paying here and I'm paying there.

1821
02:39:25,900 --> 02:39:28,540
15 million doesn't sound like a lot to the chief,

1822
02:39:28,540 --> 02:39:34,340
because guess what? We just saved the residents from paying this. So 15 million is nothing

1823
02:39:34,340 --> 02:39:43,520
right? I came to save $30,000 in savings. These increase are absolutely outrageous.

1824
02:39:43,960 --> 02:39:48,660
Not to say we're not supposed to pay something to the city, of course. We live here.

1825
02:39:49,540 --> 02:39:56,360
And Mayor, I have seen the good that you have been doing in North Latvia and I respect that.

1826
02:39:56,360 --> 02:39:59,300
I appreciate you for that. I have seen changes.

1827
02:40:00,020 --> 02:40:10,300
In the last two years, but at the same time, I work for the election office. I don't get a 10% increase.

1828
02:40:11,440 --> 02:40:19,480
One to three percent every year, and that is nothing, absolutely nothing. When they say we get an increase, I do not look at my paycheck.

1829
02:40:19,900 --> 02:40:22,960
Because it doesn't make a difference to me, I don't see the difference.

1830
02:40:23,960 --> 02:40:27,940
All I'm asking is that you guys, please think about these increase.

1831
02:40:28,240 --> 02:40:29,220
Think about the resident.

1832
02:40:29,580 --> 02:40:29,900
That's work.

1833
02:40:30,160 --> 02:40:32,220
One job and you guys are sending them to go and work.

1834
02:40:32,420 --> 02:40:32,820
Two jobs.

1835
02:40:33,200 --> 02:40:34,640
So they can get these high increase.

1836
02:40:34,700 --> 02:40:35,740
Your time is up.

1837
02:40:35,960 --> 02:40:36,940
Thank you.

1838
02:40:36,940 --> 02:40:37,620
Thank you.

1839
02:40:41,290 --> 02:40:42,470
Next person please.

1840
02:40:44,710 --> 02:40:44,930
Okay.

1841
02:40:44,930 --> 02:40:45,370
Bill Lester.

1842
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:48,890
So I'm actually going to do something that you guys.

1843
02:40:49,250 --> 02:40:50,570
I don't want you all to have heart attacks.

1844
02:40:51,530 --> 02:40:54,590
But one thing I want to do too, because I taught the cheese sweet.

1845
02:40:54,590 --> 02:40:57,110
I've listened to these guys, I've looked at this stuff.

1846
02:40:57,490 --> 02:41:00,510
One thing I did do is look at my insurance bill.

1847
02:41:01,510 --> 02:41:03,650
Because of our rating of our Far Department here,

1848
02:41:03,790 --> 02:41:05,810
and all the stuff we have, and there's response time

1849
02:41:05,810 --> 02:41:10,830
like they talked about, I save $1,000 a year

1850
02:41:11,350 --> 02:41:15,010
on my home insurance because of our Far Reading.

1851
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:17,170
Now, it's also because I live down the street on Kimberly.

1852
02:41:17,470 --> 02:41:21,630
I'm close to different things, but it isn't the thing about now.

1853
02:41:21,850 --> 02:41:23,510
It doesn't like a lot, but like they said,

1854
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:27,750
It's been five years since we've, they were able to change that again and they can't do it for

1855
02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:33,890
next five years again so it does seem high and we can always ask them to see what they can

1856
02:41:33,890 --> 02:41:34,590
cut a little bit more.

1857
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:39,050
We're going to ask Mike to cut everything else but it is something to think about is that

1858
02:41:39,050 --> 02:41:43,290
we do have a top notch part of Harvard and I'd like to stay that way because he's my

1859
02:41:43,290 --> 02:41:44,170
cost down too.

1860
02:41:44,510 --> 02:41:45,190
Thank you.

1861
02:41:49,490 --> 02:41:50,210
Thank you.

1862
02:41:50,210 --> 02:41:57,250
Michelle calendar again. I just have a comment. I'm not quite sure my insurance doesn't go down because of the fire

1863
02:41:57,250 --> 02:42:05,190
So I'm not seeing that on mine, but not unless I just want to know if there's a middle ground between the six from 278 to 650

1864
02:42:05,190 --> 02:42:11,290
There's nothing else proposed to say, okay, we can do this this or this where you came with your trim rate

1865
02:42:11,290 --> 02:42:17,710
We could do one of the other. There was no middle ground in between this and I said it at the last meeting when we had that

1866
02:42:17,710 --> 02:42:28,490
that you went from 2.78 to 6.50 boom, you put it in 3.72, 31.31 dollars and a dollar, but no one

1867
02:42:28,490 --> 02:42:34,350
who put it in the picture of how much percentage that is. That's 133%. So you normalize the

1868
02:42:34,350 --> 02:42:42,450
percentages on everything else we say, 10%, 5%. But this is 133 percentage increase. So that's

1869
02:42:42,450 --> 02:42:43,190
what I want to say.

1870
02:42:43,190 --> 02:42:44,630
Thank you.

1871
02:42:44,850 --> 02:42:45,110
Thank you.

1872
02:42:45,110 --> 02:42:45,710
The next question, please.

1873
02:42:53,050 --> 02:42:55,070
Good evening Mr. Mayor and the commissioners.

1874
02:42:55,510 --> 02:42:57,590
My name is Eric Elhengs.

1875
02:42:58,630 --> 02:43:01,090
I'm the developer in the crossings at North Laudadale.

1876
02:43:01,290 --> 02:43:06,650
I built that project and also a former city commissioner in Laudadale, lakes for 14 years.

1877
02:43:07,910 --> 02:43:10,910
So I'd note a position that each of you are in.

1878
02:43:11,250 --> 02:43:19,010
And I come up to speak about the fire, the fire assessment, and the young lady was correct.

1879
02:43:19,010 --> 02:43:26,770
It's 130% increase in one year, one of the challenges that we've always faced as elected officials

1880
02:43:26,770 --> 02:43:37,290
in terms of how to deal with always equated to our job and responsibility as we have a flower pot.

1881
02:43:38,670 --> 02:43:43,330
And in that flower pot is filled with water, so it's limited resources.

1882
02:43:43,330 --> 02:43:49,290
And that flourified has to sprinkle everything with all the different holes coming out.

1883
02:43:49,610 --> 02:43:54,750
The fire rescue assessment, you're right, it has been raised since 2021, however, that's

1884
02:43:54,750 --> 02:43:58,990
a policy decision by the commission, whether those who were here before or not.

1885
02:43:59,510 --> 02:44:05,070
That didn't bear on the residents, it was the commission who made those decisions based on what was

1886
02:44:05,070 --> 02:44:05,470
presented.

1887
02:44:07,150 --> 02:44:10,910
The study that was done, and we used to do these studies all the time, because the state

1888
02:44:10,910 --> 02:44:12,990
requires that in order to raise the fee.

1889
02:44:13,250 --> 02:44:16,250
But what the state does not require when you get the study

1890
02:44:16,250 --> 02:44:21,630
is that that entire fee being assessed in one year.

1891
02:44:21,770 --> 02:44:22,770
It's a study document.

1892
02:44:23,530 --> 02:44:24,950
And so you can look at that document

1893
02:44:25,450 --> 02:44:28,530
and you can work with staff, the fire chief, or whoever,

1894
02:44:29,190 --> 02:44:32,310
and come up with a plan to get to that point.

1895
02:44:32,390 --> 02:44:33,930
You don't have to get there in one year.

1896
02:44:34,090 --> 02:44:36,450
You don't have to get 100 to 30% in one year.

1897
02:44:37,090 --> 02:44:39,210
And that's what I believe the residents are talking about.

1898
02:44:40,450 --> 02:44:46,650
That increase faced with what we're looking at with amendment 3, you're really asking people to vote for amendment 3.

1899
02:44:47,210 --> 02:44:52,190
Because when you assess 130% of a fee, the voters are going to vote for it.

1900
02:44:52,330 --> 02:44:57,210
I tell you what, citizens, amendment 3 is bad for all cities, right?

1901
02:44:57,410 --> 02:44:59,430
Because you're going to have to make it up, it's going to pass on.

1902
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,980
On my time, I'll sit down. I'll just say, please look at that. That's the biggest increase. It's a study. Take the time. Sit down with staff. And one last thing is the land of truck. I love the fire department. And Lord of the Lakes, we talked about the land of truck all the time. Every city that touches North Lauderdale in their wells has a land of truck. We have mutual aid. Buildings are not that high. We got the

1903
02:45:29,980 --> 02:45:36,920
It's not what you're talking about, but things for the service also, I appreciate it.

1904
02:45:37,280 --> 02:45:39,920
Okay, thank you. Next person, please?

1905
02:45:46,880 --> 02:45:53,120
Alphabet 80207. I'd like to have a question to the city manager regarding one of the budget

1906
02:45:53,120 --> 02:45:54,140
line items.

1907
02:45:54,800 --> 02:45:55,740
If I'm allowed to?

1908
02:45:55,940 --> 02:45:56,820
Yes, you can.

1909
02:45:57,260 --> 02:46:05,140
There is a charge in the fund.

1910
02:46:05,900 --> 02:46:28,100
Now this year it's increasing from $2,230,865 dollars, but such a, I'm sorry, high increase, shouldn't it be budgeted to really specify what the $128,000 increase is for, instead of just dump in it into a miscellaneous account?

1911
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:28,120
Let

1912
02:46:30,460 --> 02:46:34,040
me go through the budget and find out, Mr. Mayor, may take a minute.

1913
02:46:34,420 --> 02:46:34,840
I'll take a minute.

1914
02:46:35,180 --> 02:46:39,320
I'll just want to take the fire department.

1915
02:46:39,520 --> 02:46:40,380
I know they're very crucial.

1916
02:46:40,600 --> 02:46:42,080
They provide excellent service to us.

1917
02:46:42,260 --> 02:46:43,580
Thank you very much for that.

1918
02:46:43,860 --> 02:46:46,220
Nelson, Bill, could you answer that?

1919
02:46:46,280 --> 02:46:47,820
Do you know off the top of your hand?

1920
02:46:53,910 --> 02:46:58,490
If not, what we're doing that we could listen to the next speaker, please?

1921
02:47:03,740 --> 02:47:05,060
Good evening again, Mayor.

1922
02:47:06,820 --> 02:47:07,540
Commissioners.

1923
02:47:07,960 --> 02:47:12,760
My comments are limiting to the proposed fire rescue, not at the Laura Assessment.

1924
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:20,020
My annual fire rescue assessment is increased from 278 to 650, according to my calculation

1925
02:47:20,020 --> 02:47:26,680
that's an increase of 372 in one year, that's 134 percent for me.

1926
02:47:27,240 --> 02:47:33,520
I recognize that fire rescue is an essential public service as a former deputy sheriff myself

1927
02:47:33,520 --> 02:47:39,680
and also a former emergency dispatcher for BSO, I understand the importance of

1928
02:47:39,680 --> 02:47:43,820
probably staffing equipment, equipment and funding emergency responders.

1929
02:47:44,420 --> 02:47:49,240
My objection is not to support fire rescue.

1930
02:47:49,320 --> 02:47:55,920
My objection is to imposing such a large increase all at once without adequately demonstrating

1931
02:47:55,920 --> 02:48:03,400
why this specific amount is necessary and whether less burdened some alternatives could be considered.

1932
02:48:03,400 --> 02:48:07,840
Unlike an advalorant tax, this assessment is a fixed charge.

1933
02:48:08,060 --> 02:48:13,220
It does not adjust as according to a homeowner's property value or ability to pay.

1934
02:48:14,140 --> 02:48:19,820
As senior living on approximately 1,900 per month can be charged, can be charged the same

1935
02:48:19,820 --> 02:48:24,140
amount as someone with substantially greater financial resources.

1936
02:48:24,680 --> 02:48:31,040
That makes this increase especially difficult for seniors on a lower income homeowner.

1937
02:48:31,040 --> 02:48:37,720
Before approving the 650 assessment, please clearly explain how the amount was calculated what portion

1938
02:48:37,720 --> 02:48:43,280
represents the actual cost of providing far rescue services to residential properties,

1939
02:48:43,880 --> 02:48:47,940
and whether every dollar collected must be used exclusively for that service.

1940
02:48:48,260 --> 02:48:52,860
I asked the Commission to consider reducing the assessment fee, maybe facing the increase

1941
02:48:52,860 --> 02:48:59,880
over several years, using available reserves for part of the immediate cost, identifying savings

1942
02:48:59,880 --> 02:49:06,120
elsewhere in the budget and establishing lawful hardship assistance for the low-income seniors

1943
02:49:06,120 --> 02:49:12,420
and disabled homeowners. Essential services must be funded, but they must also be funded fairly.

1944
02:49:13,040 --> 02:49:20,120
Increasing one's household fire rescue assessment by 134% is in a single year is not reasonable

1945
02:49:20,120 --> 02:49:28,540
or an affordable solution. I respectfully ask you to reject the proposed 650 and adopt a

1946
02:49:28,540 --> 02:49:34,900
gradual, equitable assessment. Thank you so much. Thank you next person.

1947
02:49:39,760 --> 02:49:41,240
Okay, I'm back.

1948
02:49:41,720 --> 02:49:46,900
You're receiving the honor of the building at 840, Southwest 81st Avenue. It's an office building.

1949
02:49:48,500 --> 02:49:54,620
The presentation did not include how is this non-advolama assessment goals against commercial properties.

1950
02:49:54,620 --> 02:49:56,960
in my specific situation,

1951
02:49:59,160 --> 02:49:59,240
the

1952
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:11,340
1,735,000 dollars, which is an arranged figure to begin with, 2,75,000 dollars. For get percentage, $40,000

1953
02:50:11,340 --> 02:50:21,100
more, just on non-advolverance tax on my property. This figure will end up $120,000 total taxes.

1954
02:50:21,100 --> 02:50:31,580
So the not the fire rescue assessment, which is the big chunk of that figure, is proposed to go up from 28,000 to 65,000 dollars.

1955
02:50:31,780 --> 02:50:33,060
Again, I'll repeat the numbers.

1956
02:50:33,700 --> 02:50:41,180
28,000 dollars to 65,000 dollars in a building, and there is even here, one of the tenants seats here behind me.

1957
02:50:41,400 --> 02:50:50,440
Nobody pays me back there, triple net. We collect gross rent when we were able to collect and we pay all the expenses.

1958
02:50:51,640 --> 02:50:58,080
no idea how it happened. I did a quick calculation, a quick research, not quick actually. I spent

1959
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:05,640
time on some research. I'm going to pay $1.2 per square foot. My building is $55,000 square foot

1960
02:51:05,640 --> 02:51:14,940
and the fire rescue assessment will be $65,000. This is $1.2 to $0.00 a square foot. Our neighboring

1961
02:51:14,940 --> 02:51:23,200
city market is at 0.38. Our neighboring city lot of the lakes is at 0.41. The city of

1962
02:51:23,200 --> 02:51:29,760
Tamarak has a flat figure of no more than $30,000, which in my case would have been 50 cents.

1963
02:51:30,420 --> 02:51:37,700
I went further and I did some research, who has the high fire rescue assessment more than what

1964
02:51:37,700 --> 02:51:44,160
not lot of the day is trying to collect. I found one city. Very similar to not lot of the one city

1965
02:51:44,160 --> 02:51:50,180
that collects slightly more. It's the city of Western. Guys, we are not the city of Western,

1966
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:57,140
okay? No disrespect, but we are not there. And I only did research on the fire rescue,

1967
02:51:57,240 --> 02:52:03,980
not the total. To make a long story short, if I am up paying those taxes or being the

1968
02:52:03,980 --> 02:52:10,820
first on those taxes, this would be the highest tax bracket in Broward County that somebody is

1969
02:52:11,660 --> 02:52:21,760
This would be again the highest tax bracket, more or less, 4% of the assessed value would go into taxes.

1970
02:52:22,100 --> 02:52:25,520
This is outrageous. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.

1971
02:52:25,880 --> 02:52:30,900
And again, the lady before me said, the non-advalorant has nothing to do with the assessed value.

1972
02:52:31,340 --> 02:52:34,680
Yes, every year we go to Brown County and we fight the assessed values.

1973
02:52:34,680 --> 02:52:39,900
At times we are successful at times we are not here. There is nobody to fight, there is nobody to fight.

1974
02:52:40,040 --> 02:52:46,940
You cannot come and say my building is vacant. Okay, it is vacant. You still need to pay for your fire services. Why? Who knows why?

1975
02:52:47,500 --> 02:52:54,360
So I will appreciate if the chief can later explain how did they come up with this calculation for commercial properties.

1976
02:52:55,000 --> 02:52:55,980
Thank you very much, guys.

1977
02:52:56,420 --> 02:52:57,660
All right. Thank you.

1978
02:52:58,340 --> 02:53:00,640
It is. It is. No,

1979
02:53:04,660 --> 02:53:04,660
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1980
02:53:04,660 --> 02:53:16,760
We appreciate that. It is 755. We have heard administration in our residents at this particular

1981
02:53:16,760 --> 02:53:21,800
time in under the current circumstances.

1982
02:53:25,930 --> 02:53:29,850
I do not support increasing the fire special assessment.

1983
02:53:29,850 --> 02:53:40,250
I support maintaining the existing assessment rate and direct admissance to identify the appropriate

1984
02:53:40,790 --> 02:53:47,610
funding adjustment necessary to maintain essential fire risked services.

1985
02:53:48,570 --> 02:53:56,890
With that, Madam Attorney, if you could provide an appropriate motion necessary to maintain

1986
02:53:56,890 --> 02:53:58,830
The current rate.

1987
02:54:02,110 --> 02:54:06,050
Oh, I could just do so if someone is so moved someone's can just second it for it this one

1988
02:54:08,330 --> 02:54:09,250
Just for the record

1989
02:54:09,810 --> 02:54:15,810
Yeah, I understand, but we don't want we just keep your plot please everybody because we don't want it later on

1990
02:54:15,810 --> 02:54:18,130
You know, thank you appreciate that

1991
02:54:19,890 --> 02:54:27,950
If not would you have someone says so much so you just want to the motions to keep the maintain everything that we're right the way it is at the time

1992
02:54:27,950 --> 02:54:32,490
You're you're moving to a man the fires that rate

1993
02:54:32,490 --> 02:54:36,730
That is providing, that is provided in

1994
02:54:38,840 --> 02:54:43,840
the resolution and you wanted to be maintained that the previous year is right.

1995
02:54:44,120 --> 02:54:44,620
That's the motion.

1996
02:54:44,780 --> 02:54:46,840
The motion is to keep the assessment.

1997
02:54:47,080 --> 02:54:54,480
The word is, I mean, so find a adjustment necessary to maintain the essential fire risk.

1998
02:54:54,620 --> 02:54:58,920
We mentioned that before earlier, we got to look at other ways.

1999
02:54:59,260 --> 02:54:59,980
My job is...

2000
02:55:01,780 --> 02:55:10,900
We're going to go in the businesses of the resident, but are there specialists? Are there job there to find other ways to do? We've got to find it somehow.

2001
02:55:11,680 --> 02:55:18,300
We're going to find it somehow because we heard it over and over and over and over and over and we're mentioning that.

2002
02:55:19,950 --> 02:55:28,130
The worst thing I'd like to do is resident, leave, no flower, to live better, because we're chasing them out of different things.

2003
02:55:28,130 --> 02:55:31,610
Whatever wasn't done nine years ago, seven years ago, that's fine.

2004
02:55:31,950 --> 02:55:33,730
But this is time that we are higher,

2005
02:55:34,090 --> 02:55:35,870
or we have people to look at those things.

2006
02:55:36,230 --> 02:55:39,310
If we could do it here, the Commission could find it.

2007
02:55:39,310 --> 02:55:39,990
We would have done it.

2008
02:55:40,030 --> 02:55:40,810
This is not our job.

2009
02:55:40,950 --> 02:55:44,310
Our job is to listen to the resident find a ways.

2010
02:55:44,510 --> 02:55:46,090
And as I mentioned that,

2011
02:55:46,710 --> 02:55:49,610
had the proposed visit somewhere in between

2012
02:55:49,610 --> 02:55:52,290
we discussed this week earlier.

2013
02:55:52,630 --> 02:55:56,030
Instead of going just for 36% in somewhere,

2014
02:55:56,030 --> 02:56:03,050
If it would be gradually 5 or 10 or somewhere people can live with someone, but at this point the waste present there

2015
02:56:03,050 --> 02:56:08,650
I say I will I cannot support it and that's we're going to go to vote to see where everybody set with that one at this point

2016
02:56:11,390 --> 02:56:12,510
So it's the

2017
02:56:12,510 --> 02:56:14,750
The solution was approving the assessment role

2018
02:56:15,430 --> 02:56:21,250
That part of it you would you would maintain maintain it, but you're you're not approving those

2019
02:56:21,250 --> 02:56:22,130
It's great

2020
02:56:22,130 --> 02:56:24,730
You wanted to remain as it was in the

2021
02:56:24,730 --> 02:56:32,090
I mean, it's what? Yes. And still a lot of other and still find a adjustment necessary to still maintain the essential

2022
02:56:32,090 --> 02:56:35,730
fire risk for services. All right.

2023
02:56:36,750 --> 02:56:42,850
Okay. Was there a second? It's been moved. We need a second or no. Second. Second, Madam Clerk, the roll call, please.

2024
02:56:45,810 --> 02:56:52,750
Commissioner Martin. Through the chair mayor before we take the roll call, is there will we be able to have comments?

2025
02:56:53,190 --> 02:56:56,450
Do they want comments? Well, I mean, I will you make.

2026
02:56:56,450 --> 02:56:59,070
We could go straight to motion, make a motion, that's fine.

2027
02:56:59,170 --> 02:57:01,370
I mean, if you make comments there, but it's already moved.

2028
02:57:01,490 --> 02:57:03,650
Yes, because the reason being is because I would love to hear

2029
02:57:03,650 --> 02:57:05,070
from staff was the consequences.

2030
02:57:05,810 --> 02:57:10,210
I know I have talked to staff several times, right?

2031
02:57:10,710 --> 02:57:13,610
And I get it, you know, it's one of those years.

2032
02:57:14,850 --> 02:57:17,010
However, this is very important.

2033
02:57:17,930 --> 02:57:21,270
And so can you please, or so you can just kind of explain to us

2034
02:57:21,270 --> 02:57:22,410
if that's okay with the mayor.

2035
02:57:24,250 --> 02:57:26,210
So the chair?

2036
02:57:29,810 --> 02:57:33,020
How does it work?

2037
02:57:33,340 --> 02:57:38,640
Well, there was a motion in a second and usually after the motion in a second there's a discussion.

2038
02:57:39,320 --> 02:57:41,420
There's no discussion after that.

2039
02:57:41,780 --> 02:57:42,140
There is.

2040
02:57:42,320 --> 02:57:42,720
There is.

2041
02:57:42,720 --> 02:57:43,400
There is.

2042
02:57:43,400 --> 02:57:43,720
There is.

2043
02:57:43,720 --> 02:57:43,780
There is.

2044
02:57:43,880 --> 02:57:43,940
There is.

2045
02:57:43,940 --> 02:57:44,160
There is.

2046
02:57:44,160 --> 02:57:44,300
There is.

2047
02:57:44,300 --> 02:57:47,720
There is.

2048
02:57:47,720 --> 02:57:51,660
because that was the first, well, we didn't have a motion for discussion, but that's fine.

2049
02:57:54,000 --> 02:57:54,880
We didn't have that.

2050
02:57:54,880 --> 02:58:00,420
We just straight to make a motion, which is, which is, yes, so you didn't make a motion

2051
02:58:00,420 --> 02:58:01,060
for discussion.

2052
02:58:01,260 --> 02:58:02,320
You made a motion to approve.

2053
02:58:02,660 --> 02:58:03,620
That's all.

2054
02:58:04,300 --> 02:58:06,500
Well, is there any way that we can discuss this?

2055
02:58:06,520 --> 02:58:10,760
Because I think the residents need to know the consequences of what's not raising.

2056
02:58:11,180 --> 02:58:18,200
I mean, it doesn't have to be that amount, but we need to do something, like, just to say.

2057
02:58:22,610 --> 02:58:28,970
Okay, I'm going to allow that to happen, but the point is the motion is that while we're still

2058
02:58:28,970 --> 02:58:37,990
approve it, but still, the admissions will identify appropriate funding necessary, just

2059
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:42,610
putting them on just the necessary to make any sense of consequences or not, they're still

2060
02:58:42,610 --> 02:58:44,030
going to receive the service.

2061
02:58:44,030 --> 02:58:50,800
The thing is the question was how far deep in the reserve you want or you don't want to go to

2062
02:58:51,130 --> 02:58:57,250
if you can find alternatives because now we're looking at cutting cutting but have we explore other

2063
02:58:57,250 --> 02:59:03,830
other ways to find so the residents don't have to go deep regardless because even if you do not

2064
02:59:03,830 --> 02:59:09,450
increase it this year, eventually it's going to come up and we have three budgets over that over explain

2065
02:59:09,450 --> 02:59:15,970
I just want to move the item there because at this point explain in the what it is it doesn't change anything

2066
02:59:15,970 --> 02:59:20,390
No matter as far as I'm seeing it and what residence is here. Oh wait. That's what I'm saying

2067
02:59:20,390 --> 02:59:27,470
Okay, we can go around the circle of all but the idea is and as I remember we could have been in this long time the idea is

2068
02:59:28,370 --> 02:59:35,630
Resonant don't want they cannot afford it and they don't want it because I mean right we're not that's all the point

2069
02:59:35,630 --> 02:59:38,690
Give me friends. Okay, please you. I'm gonna have a great

2070
02:59:39,450 --> 02:59:44,190
You can spend a whole time to explain the consequences, but the idea is what I would do

2071
02:59:44,190 --> 02:59:48,630
about it with the resident, because I don't want to hear any resident move to Morsi,

2072
02:59:48,810 --> 02:59:52,930
I'm selling my house because we're just going to run around the subject.

2073
02:59:53,210 --> 02:59:53,990
That's simple as that.

2074
02:59:54,430 --> 02:59:54,850
So go ahead.

2075
02:59:54,970 --> 02:59:56,770
So can I please finish me or is that okay?

2076
02:59:56,970 --> 02:59:57,390
Yes, go ahead.

2077
02:59:57,650 --> 02:59:57,890
Go ahead.

2078
02:59:58,030 --> 02:59:58,770
Thank you so much.

2079
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:10,480
Okay, so we need to understand this. We are an untitled city, okay, which means we, the census, I think

2080
03:00:10,480 --> 03:00:20,220
what is under what 40, 40 something that how many people is less than $50,000. So therefore, we're not

2081
03:00:20,220 --> 03:00:27,520
privy to certain things and I totally get it. I'm so for, you know, the cuts, so for for keeping certain

2082
03:00:27,520 --> 03:00:34,360
things at certain rates and et cetera, but we need to explain just because this is an

2083
03:00:34,360 --> 03:00:39,920
election year. We have to understand the repercussions, right? The long-term repercussions

2084
03:00:39,920 --> 03:00:45,280
of what happened, the problem was and has been, is because we have not raised these rates

2085
03:00:45,280 --> 03:00:50,660
for all these numbers of years and now we're being hit and this is the recommendation from staff.

2086
03:00:51,120 --> 03:00:56,220
Okay, so I want to hear from staff, I want to educate, okay, our residents with happening here

2087
03:00:56,220 --> 03:01:03,200
Because we might not raise it today, okay, but eventually we're going to have to and so we really need to you know

2088
03:01:03,200 --> 03:01:09,100
Just just kind of explain and so I'm okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me say something there. Hold on

2089
03:01:09,480 --> 03:01:11,280
it is unfair

2090
03:01:12,140 --> 03:01:14,220
to take our time

2091
03:01:14,220 --> 03:01:16,260
over a month

2092
03:01:16,260 --> 03:01:20,580
that we repurposed you have two budgets

2093
03:01:20,580 --> 03:01:22,420
town hall meetings

2094
03:01:22,940 --> 03:01:30,720
When it happened here, right here with many residents show up here and others, the two days later, at the Oak Brook.

2095
03:01:31,720 --> 03:01:35,440
How many commissioners attended the town hall meetings?

2096
03:01:36,660 --> 03:01:38,420
That was to educate the residents.

2097
03:01:39,860 --> 03:01:42,020
None of them, I mean, how many of them were there?

2098
03:01:42,060 --> 03:01:44,500
And that was the time, perfect time to do it.

2099
03:01:45,060 --> 03:01:47,540
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

2100
03:01:47,540 --> 03:01:50,820
We're using even right now, we're using the taxpayers of money right now.

2101
03:01:50,820 --> 03:01:55,700
I want to say that it was a time, perfect time, it was announced, sunshine,

2102
03:01:56,680 --> 03:02:00,980
the commissioners could have been here, it was here, there was, we don't have the number,

2103
03:02:01,160 --> 03:02:05,500
they were full, packed, the first one, the second one was the, it was the same purpose,

2104
03:02:06,160 --> 03:02:11,680
whereas the departments presented the assessment, the explain, what's going to happen there,

2105
03:02:12,000 --> 03:02:17,180
CD manager explained, the consequence, all that, it was done, they explained it to those people

2106
03:02:17,180 --> 03:02:25,020
up into ask question. So this is not fair at this point again to keep going the same thing

2107
03:02:25,020 --> 03:02:30,220
there. We're already the meeting for tonight is to approve or disapprove or confine

2108
03:02:30,220 --> 03:02:36,800
the middle. That's what I'm saying. Okay. So if I don't, if I can mention, if I don't show

2109
03:02:37,600 --> 03:02:44,680
up and the most reasons we're here already, they understand it, it's not fair that we wish

2110
03:02:44,680 --> 03:02:45,740
That's what I'm saying.

2111
03:02:45,740 --> 03:02:46,520
Through the chair mayor.

2112
03:02:46,740 --> 03:02:48,180
This is not a waste of time.

2113
03:02:48,280 --> 03:02:49,760
Education is never a waste of time.

2114
03:02:49,760 --> 03:02:50,260
I understand.

2115
03:02:50,480 --> 03:02:51,200
No, no, no.

2116
03:02:51,200 --> 03:02:52,220
Mayer please let me.

2117
03:02:52,440 --> 03:02:53,180
You do this.

2118
03:02:53,340 --> 03:02:55,020
When it's time.

2119
03:02:55,200 --> 03:02:55,540
Mayer.

2120
03:02:55,660 --> 03:02:56,560
At this point.

2121
03:02:56,640 --> 03:02:57,100
Mayer.

2122
03:02:57,560 --> 03:02:59,480
You continue to do this, right?

2123
03:03:00,040 --> 03:03:01,540
It's our responsibility.

2124
03:03:01,780 --> 03:03:03,000
Whether they're there or not.

2125
03:03:03,300 --> 03:03:04,480
Because there's there's people here.

2126
03:03:04,480 --> 03:03:05,580
Residents that are here.

2127
03:03:05,860 --> 03:03:07,820
That do not understand this.

2128
03:03:08,420 --> 03:03:12,740
So I am being responsible by asking hearts that you can come up.

2129
03:03:12,740 --> 03:03:13,800
Just explain a little bit.

2130
03:03:13,800 --> 03:03:17,700
If we choose to keep the assessments as is, we will keep it as is.

2131
03:03:17,860 --> 03:03:22,820
However, we need to just, you know, just give them a little snippet of what's going on

2132
03:03:22,820 --> 03:03:23,940
and what are the consequences.

2133
03:03:24,080 --> 03:03:24,660
That's all.

2134
03:03:24,720 --> 03:03:31,700
Because as of November 3rd, if that property tax does get approved, right, a lot changes

2135
03:03:31,700 --> 03:03:33,100
and we need to understand.

2136
03:03:33,940 --> 03:03:40,160
And so we don't have in the future, people are coming to city hall and saying, why were

2137
03:03:40,160 --> 03:03:40,660
we educated?

2138
03:03:40,740 --> 03:03:41,980
Why was in the set to us?

2139
03:03:41,980 --> 03:03:48,360
at least for those that are watching and those that did not attend, does that meeting, does

2140
03:03:48,360 --> 03:03:49,920
that tell meeting?

2141
03:03:50,440 --> 03:03:52,660
They can't get, just educate, we just being educated.

2142
03:03:52,820 --> 03:03:53,320
That's in there.

2143
03:03:53,640 --> 03:03:54,060
That's it.

2144
03:03:54,340 --> 03:04:01,480
Your point is well-taking if we can't hire many people right here and that means we have another

2145
03:04:01,480 --> 03:04:05,480
40s, some thousand and they're still not probably not there.

2146
03:04:05,700 --> 03:04:08,740
So the point is, we made this adjustment here.

2147
03:04:08,740 --> 03:04:16,040
Chief, they all explain what it is and we spent all I'm saying is let's move on. It's eight or six right now

2148
03:04:16,040 --> 03:04:24,760
We already decide that we're going to maintain it and they're at staff has our other works to do let's move on if you want to take to people's time

2149
03:04:24,760 --> 03:04:25,660
I'm good

2150
03:04:26,580 --> 03:04:33,140
Okay, let's go. Okay, let's go for education. Let's go for education. Okay. Let's move. Let's move. Let's move. Thank you

2151
03:04:34,700 --> 03:04:36,260
All right education. Let's go

2152
03:04:37,760 --> 03:04:45,520
okay and regards to how that will impact the budget itself so this is not the slide but I'm

2153
03:04:45,520 --> 03:04:50,800
just going to speak off from what I have here is the data so the budget being 15 million five

2154
03:04:50,800 --> 03:04:59,040
six five three nine one if we keep the assessment at the current rate we will be generating sorry

2155
03:04:59,040 --> 03:04:59,980
I'm a proxist.

2156
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:15,400
Assembly 6,632,811 in the assessment revenues. And what that would mean is that there would be a short fall in the budget or a gap of $7.1 million.

2157
03:05:15,980 --> 03:05:23,220
However, the general fund itself will still right now will have that 1.162196.

2158
03:05:23,220 --> 03:05:32,240
That is already factored into the budget, but in order to meet the gap between that 7.1 million and the 1.162,

2159
03:05:32,300 --> 03:05:33,940
that's already in the general fund.

2160
03:05:34,460 --> 03:05:38,700
The general fund would have to supplement the fire fund by almost $6 million.

2161
03:05:39,500 --> 03:05:46,240
So a little over $5.9 million in order to keep the proposed budget as what it is.

2162
03:05:46,620 --> 03:05:46,880
Thank you.

2163
03:05:47,200 --> 03:05:50,100
That will be on the general fund side of it.

2164
03:05:50,100 --> 03:05:52,580
So as we're hearing the residents, a lot of them didn't know that.

2165
03:05:52,780 --> 03:05:56,840
So this is why I said education is so important because there's many people that weren't here.

2166
03:05:57,140 --> 03:05:59,020
So to hear that is very important to hear.

2167
03:05:59,080 --> 03:06:00,160
Thank you so much.

2168
03:06:01,040 --> 03:06:01,160
All right.

2169
03:06:01,320 --> 03:06:01,960
Thank you.

2170
03:06:02,520 --> 03:06:03,180
Thank you.

2171
03:06:03,920 --> 03:06:07,060
We're looking at what the reverence we are January does true.

2172
03:06:07,880 --> 03:06:14,520
But regardless, I have to look at how much is going to cost my residence to provide

2173
03:06:14,520 --> 03:06:20,840
services and who's the same residence again, we're going to ask to increase every else.

2174
03:06:21,020 --> 03:06:26,500
So it's perfect to educate, but I'm just going to say, my job is to make sure that I look

2175
03:06:26,500 --> 03:06:30,720
what I would keep the costs down for the residence, that's the only purpose I'm there in

2176
03:06:30,720 --> 03:06:31,100
the Airbnb.

2177
03:06:31,520 --> 03:06:37,640
I'm not saying I'm not against that, but that's also why we hire, we hire experts, people

2178
03:06:37,640 --> 03:06:45,280
that they're job to look to find ways other way because because we are not in

2179
03:06:45,280 --> 03:06:50,440
time in city means that we're two I'm going to take two neighbors that we have one

2180
03:06:50,440 --> 03:06:57,120
is a 76,000 population they were in a 60,000 population there we only 45,000 we

2181
03:06:57,120 --> 03:07:04,540
do not get the same federal fund they receive until we reach 50,000 then my

2182
03:07:04,540 --> 03:07:11,040
We're going to lose we lost about 1.2 billion there for 10 years so it's just understanding the same reason

2183
03:07:11,920 --> 03:07:18,490
There I don't know how many times we educate that's the one point but the point is what are we doing about it when they come for them to

2184
03:07:18,880 --> 03:07:23,700
We're asking to pay pay pay and people going to have to leave no Florida deal to go to another city

2185
03:07:24,720 --> 03:07:26,940
close to buy any word move away because

2186
03:07:28,280 --> 03:07:34,520
We we we're not controlling exactly what it is whatever it needs to be done as we don't but there's been so many other ways to find it

2187
03:07:34,520 --> 03:07:36,180
I'm going to keep it at this point.

2188
03:07:36,660 --> 03:07:39,520
So, Madam Clark is being moved in second place.

2189
03:07:40,000 --> 03:07:42,340
Do the local, everybody has one vote here.

2190
03:07:42,620 --> 03:07:43,500
Thank you.

2191
03:07:47,710 --> 03:07:48,770
It was moved in second.

2192
03:07:49,350 --> 03:07:51,930
If you guys are listening to me, it's Commissioner Martin.

2193
03:07:54,150 --> 03:07:55,090
Commissioner Louis Rekus.

2194
03:07:55,630 --> 03:07:55,790
Yes.

2195
03:07:56,790 --> 03:07:58,090
Vice Mayor Booster Monte.

2196
03:07:58,190 --> 03:07:58,590
Yes.

2197
03:07:59,310 --> 03:08:00,250
Commissioner Louis.

2198
03:08:00,650 --> 03:08:02,130
I'll pull up a quick question.

2199
03:08:02,830 --> 03:08:05,690
If we set three here, at the secondary,

2200
03:08:05,950 --> 03:08:06,870
we won't be able to move it.

2201
03:08:06,870 --> 03:08:07,470
We won't be doing anything.

2202
03:08:07,470 --> 03:08:11,090
This is the final.

2203
03:08:13,550 --> 03:08:20,890
The motion is to maintain the rate assessment the way it is or raise it to whatever it is.

2204
03:08:21,010 --> 03:08:23,010
That's what it's about.

2205
03:08:25,750 --> 03:08:27,010
And Mayor Board 1.

2206
03:08:27,630 --> 03:08:28,070
Yes.

2207
03:08:30,030 --> 03:08:32,190
Did you call Vice Mayor?

2208
03:08:32,330 --> 03:08:32,850
Yes, I did.

2209
03:08:33,150 --> 03:08:33,910
What did he say?

2210
03:08:34,170 --> 03:08:35,010
He voted yes.

2211
03:08:35,390 --> 03:08:36,070
He voted yes.

2212
03:08:36,070 --> 03:08:38,070
Thank you.

2213
03:08:40,690 --> 03:08:42,390
So motion pass.

2214
03:08:45,900 --> 03:08:47,760
That takes us to the next item.

2215
03:08:48,040 --> 03:08:48,660
Madam Attorney, please.

2216
03:08:48,780 --> 03:08:51,080
For the.

2217
03:08:51,080 --> 03:08:51,340
Yes.

2218
03:08:51,800 --> 03:08:54,160
It's about the solid waste assessment.

2219
03:08:54,940 --> 03:08:59,800
The agenda proposed the agenda proposed is 575 per residential unit.

2220
03:09:00,020 --> 03:09:00,720
You go ahead.

2221
03:09:00,920 --> 03:09:03,840
A resolution of the city commission of the city of North Florida.

2222
03:09:03,980 --> 03:09:09,620
Deal Florida relating to the provision of residential solid waste collection services in the city of North Florida.

2223
03:09:09,620 --> 03:09:19,680
a proving the assessment rate of $575 for residential solid waste collection services for the fiscal year beginning on October

2224
03:09:20,600 --> 03:09:21,300
1226.

2225
03:09:22,000 --> 03:09:22,980
Imposing a residential.

2226
03:09:23,420 --> 03:09:23,780
Hold on.

2227
03:09:23,940 --> 03:09:24,140
Sorry.

2228
03:09:24,260 --> 03:09:26,760
Could you get some order please?

2229
03:09:27,760 --> 03:09:35,720
Imposing a residential solid waste collection assessment against the says property located within the city of Northwaterdale for the fiscal year

2230
03:09:35,720 --> 03:09:41,460
beginning on October 1, 2026, providing facility, providing for conflicts and providing

2231
03:09:41,460 --> 03:09:42,400
for an effective day.

2232
03:09:42,540 --> 03:09:42,860
Hold on.

2233
03:09:43,080 --> 03:09:44,420
Hold on.

2234
03:09:44,420 --> 03:09:46,300
I'm going to ask one more time, please.

2235
03:09:46,660 --> 03:09:50,020
Well, some respect for city attorney's reading it, please.

2236
03:09:54,680 --> 03:09:58,940
No, no, no, I hear a lot, I don't know who he's saying to speak, but we are a lot of

2237
03:09:58,940 --> 03:09:59,760
other people.

2238
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:08,200
We appreciate that. We appreciate that because those who have been listening at home watching their hearing, everything in a background. Thank you.

2239
03:10:09,020 --> 03:10:17,340
Madam, I'm sorry about it. Go ahead. I've read it. I have read it. Okay.

2240
03:10:18,900 --> 03:10:21,720
City Manager, who's going to present to you please?

2241
03:10:21,880 --> 03:10:23,780
Budget manager Mr. Mayor will make this presentation.

2242
03:10:23,940 --> 03:10:25,040
Thank you.

2243
03:10:28,930 --> 03:10:29,190
All right.

2244
03:10:29,470 --> 03:10:38,790
The proposed budget for the solid waste fund for 2027 is 4,576,800.

2245
03:10:39,730 --> 03:10:42,310
How did we get to that balanced budget?

2246
03:10:42,970 --> 03:10:51,030
So the assessment that's proposed here is at 575, which will generate 4,271,391.

2247
03:10:51,030 --> 03:10:58,350
in revenues and then we have some other revenues that was, you know, generated, you know,

2248
03:10:58,470 --> 03:11:05,370
that will be generated through other sources of almost 157,000 and then we are using from

2249
03:11:05,370 --> 03:11:14,290
that fund itself, fund balance of 100 and almost 149,000 dollars. So that's how we were able

2250
03:11:14,290 --> 03:11:23,950
to achieve the current balance budget of the 4.7,800 as proposed for the solid waste funds.

2251
03:11:25,550 --> 03:11:31,590
Primarily what's in here is just the solid waste contract, and that has an increase,

2252
03:11:31,790 --> 03:11:37,730
and that's what we actually budgeted for here, the contract in order to be able to cover

2253
03:11:37,730 --> 03:11:43,090
the expenditures related to the contract for that fund.

2254
03:11:46,350 --> 03:11:55,070
Okay, I'm going to take the same question concern Commission Martin has at this point to present the exactly.

2255
03:11:56,250 --> 03:11:57,070
Are you there?

2256
03:11:59,510 --> 03:11:59,810
Yes.

2257
03:12:01,030 --> 03:12:12,550
You explain how you achieve that, but does that same show the reason for the proposing increase in the financial consequence of maintaining existing rate?

2258
03:12:12,550 --> 03:12:14,050
Okay, just bear with me a moment.

2259
03:12:14,050 --> 03:12:14,590
Let me get it.

2260
03:12:34,500 --> 03:12:34,780
Okay.

2261
03:12:35,460 --> 03:12:47,820
So, Chair, in regards to the current assessment of the 499, what we basically have budgeted

2262
03:12:47,820 --> 03:12:53,800
here is just the CPI increase of the contract in order to be able to achieve the balance

2263
03:12:53,800 --> 03:12:58,400
budget to pay for the contract that we have with the solid way.

2264
03:12:58,400 --> 03:13:02,640
So that's that 4.4.5, 7,600.

2265
03:13:03,420 --> 03:13:10,360
So in regards to that, if we were to keep the assessment at the same, we would generate less

2266
03:13:10,360 --> 03:13:18,340
revenues, and we would be looking at approximately $3.7 million, so it was $3.6, 9, 4, 3, 6.

2267
03:13:19,060 --> 03:13:23,260
And other assessments that would stay the same are the revenues rather would stay the same.

2268
03:13:23,260 --> 03:13:30,720
So, it would mean that the fund would need to be supplemented by another $721,000 additional

2269
03:13:31,260 --> 03:13:34,100
that the fund really does not have right now.

2270
03:13:34,660 --> 03:13:41,420
So, we would need to close that gap of almost, you know, $500,000 in order to fund that

2271
03:13:41,420 --> 03:13:45,680
if we were to keep the assessment at the current rate.

2272
03:13:47,720 --> 03:13:48,280
Okay.

2273
03:13:48,960 --> 03:13:49,920
Are you done?

2274
03:13:50,180 --> 03:13:50,780
Yes, I am.

2275
03:13:50,780 --> 03:13:56,640
Thank you. We will now hear from the public regarding this assessment, please.

2276
03:13:58,620 --> 03:14:02,100
And we're trying to limit it at two minutes, please. Thank you.

2277
03:14:02,320 --> 03:14:11,920
Good evening again. Commissioner Mayor, I recognize that drainage canal maintenance and flood control are essential.

2278
03:14:12,540 --> 03:14:15,800
However, I have to consider my cost, my overhead.

2279
03:14:15,800 --> 03:14:22,180
So, my annual assessment is in particular, you're speaking on the wrong one, we're speaking

2280
03:14:22,180 --> 03:14:24,640
on the solid waste right now, yes.

2281
03:14:25,360 --> 03:14:30,540
My annual assessment is increasing from 95 to 200 on that.

2282
03:14:31,380 --> 03:14:35,980
This is solid waste, you're speaking on the solid waste, you're speaking on the solid

2283
03:14:35,980 --> 03:14:36,620
Water control?

2284
03:14:36,740 --> 03:14:38,660
No, no, no, solid waste, the solid waste.

2285
03:14:38,780 --> 03:14:39,400
My apologies.

2286
03:14:39,940 --> 03:14:40,020
Thank you.

2287
03:14:40,020 --> 03:14:41,580
Okay, you're speaking on the storm water.

2288
03:14:42,200 --> 03:14:43,020
That's the next slide.

2289
03:14:43,220 --> 03:14:44,560
I'll come back.

2290
03:14:44,560 --> 03:14:50,470
with you'd like me to do no no if you want to speak on the solid way solid way

2291
03:14:50,920 --> 03:14:56,220
comments on the solid way straight now I'll have to come back to that next speaker

2292
03:14:56,220 --> 03:14:59,980
please you need if you want to

2293
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:03,520
Would it be right here, please? Solid waste, solid waste.

2294
03:15:08,620 --> 03:15:13,580
Hello, good morning. My name is Miranda Carmichael, I'm 2040, winner circle. The waste.

2295
03:15:15,320 --> 03:15:21,100
The waste costs are something that impact my community substantially, because we are in an

2296
03:15:21,100 --> 03:15:28,520
HOA and the city contract requires us to use waste management and gives us no option for

2297
03:15:28,520 --> 03:15:35,860
other waste removable services. And we currently spend in my community as of fiscal year 2025,

2298
03:15:36,700 --> 03:15:43,740
$210,000 a year for waste collection, which is about $70 per homeowner in my community per month.

2299
03:15:44,540 --> 03:15:52,160
This is a contract that I would like to ask if there's any opportunity to renegotiate the

2300
03:15:52,160 --> 03:15:57,520
increases. I know that waste management does negotiate increases even though they might be in the

2301
03:15:57,520 --> 03:16:06,240
So that you can reduce the amounts because it is a very high cost to the people that are living in communities like mine.

2302
03:16:08,540 --> 03:16:09,500
Thank you.

2303
03:16:09,600 --> 03:16:10,680
Next speaker please.

2304
03:16:15,620 --> 03:16:21,060
So I own more properties in South Florida in Broward and in Miami-Dade.

2305
03:16:22,160 --> 03:16:25,900
So this property we are also bounded the same as the lady before we said.

2306
03:16:25,940 --> 03:16:29,900
We are bounded by waste management and frankly they are killing us.

2307
03:16:29,900 --> 03:16:35,480
In Miami did, unincoperated date, we also have waste management as a provider,

2308
03:16:36,120 --> 03:16:39,300
but guess what, there we don't have to use them, I'm praying a fraction.

2309
03:16:39,780 --> 03:16:44,100
I'm paying about 25% for more time paying in the building here.

2310
03:16:44,600 --> 03:16:51,500
About this, the building is smaller, building is smaller, but the cost is a fraction.

2311
03:16:51,700 --> 03:16:55,380
A fraction, waste management takes serious advantage of us.

2312
03:16:55,380 --> 03:17:02,700
period. They have a contract with you and we must use them and it's beyond painful. That's all.

2313
03:17:04,080 --> 03:17:05,920
All right, the next person please.

2314
03:17:08,180 --> 03:17:12,440
Again, my name is Linda Ashby. I'm going to speak on the

2315
03:17:12,440 --> 03:17:19,980
solid waste. For this particular item, my annual solid waste charge has increased from $4.99 to $5.75.

2316
03:17:20,560 --> 03:17:26,960
This is an increase of $76, which is approximately 15% for me. I do recognize the garbage and

2317
03:17:26,960 --> 03:17:31,860
cycling collections are necessary municipal services in that labor fuel equipment disposal

2318
03:17:31,860 --> 03:17:38,320
costs are can and crease. However, as a resident, we should not be expected to approve a higher

2319
03:17:38,320 --> 03:17:44,100
assessment without a clear explanation of what it is driving, the increase and what the

2320
03:17:44,100 --> 03:17:49,780
city has done to control those costs. Before approving the 575 assessment, please explain how much

2321
03:17:49,780 --> 03:17:55,840
of this increase results from the waste collection contract, disposal fee, administrative expenses,

2322
03:17:55,840 --> 03:18:01,900
or additional services. Did the city competitively forbid or renegotiate the contract?

2323
03:18:02,240 --> 03:18:08,580
We're alternative services arranged evaluated. Has the contractors perform as justified

2324
03:18:08,580 --> 03:18:14,980
the increase costs? Again, this is a fixed charge that does not consider property value

2325
03:18:14,980 --> 03:18:20,660
or household income. For seniors like myself, I am on an alluring count now and residents.

2326
03:18:20,660 --> 03:18:33,140
Another $76 may appear modest with the overall budget, but it becomes significant when combined with the proposed increased in far rescue water control storm water assessment.

2327
03:18:33,600 --> 03:18:49,580
Again, I would like to ask the Commission to explore, renegotiating the contract, reducing administrative expenses, applying available solid waste reserves, improving collection efficiencies and phasing in any unavoidable increases.

2328
03:18:49,580 --> 03:18:54,980
the city should also consider lawful hardship assistance for qualifying low-income residents.

2329
03:18:55,580 --> 03:18:59,800
I support reliable solid waste services but residents deserve proof that the proposed

2330
03:18:59,800 --> 03:19:05,400
charges reflect the low lowest reasonable costs not simply the amount needed to balance

2331
03:19:05,400 --> 03:19:05,920
the budget.

2332
03:19:06,200 --> 03:19:06,960
Thank you so much.

2333
03:19:07,120 --> 03:19:11,500
Please reconsider the 575 assessment and adopt the most affordable rate.

2334
03:19:11,800 --> 03:19:12,620
Thank you so much.

2335
03:19:12,860 --> 03:19:13,040
Thank you.

2336
03:19:13,300 --> 03:19:14,280
Next person, please.

2337
03:19:21,840 --> 03:19:22,620
Good evening.

2338
03:19:22,620 --> 03:19:25,120
Again, Commissioner Mayer, Vice Mayor,

2339
03:19:25,120 --> 03:19:28,480
City Manager, City Attorney, as well as City Clerk.

2340
03:19:29,180 --> 03:19:32,440
The question I have to cover up these deficits,

2341
03:19:33,680 --> 03:19:36,340
to get past November, are we in essence

2342
03:19:36,340 --> 03:19:39,380
our plan is to quietly train our reserves?

2343
03:19:40,460 --> 03:19:45,100
In addition, I am not opposing, obviously, on the resident.

2344
03:19:45,360 --> 03:19:48,280
I am not opposing us balancing our budget,

2345
03:19:48,720 --> 03:19:51,980
but the issue I'm having is what specific steps

2346
03:19:51,980 --> 03:19:59,980
have we taken to go line, line by line to make sure that although we are allowing these...

2347
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:14,620
I'm bringing the downies and keeping the rates the same. What are we doing to make sure that if something happens, like a hurricane or things like that, that we are not demolishing our reserve, just so that we can get past an election year? That's my question.

2348
03:20:15,960 --> 03:20:17,520
All right. Thank you. Next person.

2349
03:20:21,620 --> 03:20:25,740
Have it done. We're going to bring it up here. Unless you want to, yes.

2350
03:20:25,740 --> 03:20:27,080
If I could briefly,

2351
03:20:29,900 --> 03:20:54,080
so the solid waste really consists of just two contracts, it's waste management that goes around picking up the garbage, and then it is at willibrator where the garbage is dumped, and so we pay to have it picked up, and we pay for disposal, and so there isn't a lot in this budget or really, you know, hardly anything in this budget that we can cut out of it.

2352
03:20:54,080 --> 03:20:59,940
It is basically a service contract in the budget.

2353
03:21:01,000 --> 03:21:07,040
Last year we used reserves out of the solid waste fund to keep the assessment lower.

2354
03:21:07,580 --> 03:21:12,000
This year we're using the remaining $126,000 in reserves.

2355
03:21:12,860 --> 03:21:17,520
And so I certainly understand reducing the fire assessment.

2356
03:21:17,520 --> 03:21:27,720
The way we allocate fire rescue is different than the way some other cities do it.

2357
03:21:27,900 --> 03:21:35,600
That's neither here nor there at this point, but I would strongly ask that this rate be approved

2358
03:21:35,600 --> 03:21:46,760
because we cannot keep using reserves to dump another million dollars into this because we don't want to pay the

2359
03:21:46,760 --> 03:21:49,300
there's the cost of the solid waste.

2360
03:21:49,840 --> 03:21:54,680
If the direction from the commission is to put this out for bid

2361
03:21:54,680 --> 03:21:57,900
down the road to explore with waste management,

2362
03:21:58,600 --> 03:22:01,540
whether or not we can renegotiate any clause in the contract,

2363
03:22:02,320 --> 03:22:05,000
that's separate from the assessment,

2364
03:22:05,680 --> 03:22:08,400
because we need to be, this is their cost.

2365
03:22:08,440 --> 03:22:11,400
This is waste management's cost to pick up our garbage,

2366
03:22:11,860 --> 03:22:15,400
and this is wheelbraders' cost to dispose of the garbage

2367
03:22:15,400 --> 03:22:21,060
Once it's taken there, or where our bulk goes to dispose of that as well.

2368
03:22:21,840 --> 03:22:25,600
So I would strongly ask for your consideration, right?

2369
03:22:25,720 --> 03:22:31,260
Because we're going to bring you back a budget at 7.4 mils that doesn't use any reserves.

2370
03:22:31,860 --> 03:22:37,100
But we're going to have to throw in almost $5 million in reserves just for the fire rescue now.

2371
03:22:37,420 --> 03:22:44,460
And so we would strongly ask that these remaining assessments stay the way they're proposed.

2372
03:22:44,460 --> 03:22:45,880
Thank you.

2373
03:22:47,490 --> 03:22:48,170
All right.

2374
03:22:49,330 --> 03:22:49,590
Okay.

2375
03:22:50,170 --> 03:22:51,250
Party comments are closed.

2376
03:22:51,590 --> 03:22:53,050
We've got a bump here.

2377
03:22:54,350 --> 03:22:56,470
Any questions here about the commission?

2378
03:22:56,630 --> 03:22:57,250
Through the chair.

2379
03:22:57,290 --> 03:22:57,910
You're recognized.

2380
03:23:00,440 --> 03:23:02,520
This is exactly what I was saying earlier.

2381
03:23:04,000 --> 03:23:08,920
And this is why I felt that there was a real need to explain the consequences.

2382
03:23:10,400 --> 03:23:12,400
Is that, again, city manager?

2383
03:23:12,880 --> 03:23:17,280
Can you please send me the history of the past two years?

2384
03:23:17,280 --> 03:23:27,380
how much we actually use in our reserve. Please. And now you just mentioned that to cover

2385
03:23:27,380 --> 03:23:37,240
the fire rescue, we have to take what $5 million? Sir? It was about $5 million. More than that?

2386
03:23:37,300 --> 03:23:39,340
Close to six. Okay.

2387
03:23:42,600 --> 03:23:46,420
I don't think tonight the commission is being responsible.

2388
03:23:47,520 --> 03:23:56,800
I know they were trying to appease, but the education part was so important, do not, please.

2389
03:23:57,800 --> 03:23:59,000
Don't do that, please.

2390
03:23:59,340 --> 03:24:00,360
I'm trying to explain.

2391
03:24:01,500 --> 03:24:05,260
Can we, can we, can we keep it civil please?

2392
03:24:07,060 --> 03:24:09,260
Let's not cross that way.

2393
03:24:09,800 --> 03:24:10,120
I'm sorry.

2394
03:24:10,480 --> 03:24:12,000
I'm part of the conversation.

2395
03:24:12,420 --> 03:24:15,020
Don't make statements, inclusive statements.

2396
03:24:15,020 --> 03:24:18,640
Okay. Okay. Thank you. It's very respectful please.

2397
03:24:19,620 --> 03:24:27,320
When we vote yes, I was talking about the commission that voted yes, and I'm sorry.

2398
03:24:28,580 --> 03:24:34,420
Commissioner Lewis, Dilo is. Rick and Lewis, you are part of that yes group.

2399
03:24:34,920 --> 03:24:40,540
What I'm saying is I thought what we're trying to do is come to a middle ground here.

2400
03:24:40,540 --> 03:24:43,540
We have spoke to staff for the past couple of months.

2401
03:24:44,540 --> 03:24:47,560
The staff is hired because their experts

2402
03:24:47,560 --> 03:24:51,860
to bring in information, data, et cetera.

2403
03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:56,040
And now, again, we are dipping in the reserves.

2404
03:24:57,000 --> 03:24:59,960
I would love to know the past two years how much.

2405
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:23,180
We have literally spent. And what is the consequences of us actually continually dipping into the reserves? Because, again, if we were to have a, you know, I mean, it's hurricane season, right? There's a lot that's going on. And the last thing we want is not having funds to cover certain things. Thank you so much.

2406
03:25:26,510 --> 03:25:34,670
any other commissioner? Okay, have a none. Let me go. I understand commissioner

2407
03:25:35,610 --> 03:25:41,130
Martin's concern, but when you say the commission is not responsible tonight, I

2408
03:25:41,130 --> 03:25:48,210
would like to know what is our role as commission when we go for election. Do we

2409
03:25:48,210 --> 03:25:53,750
say we're, I mean I know we're working in the city, but for the reason, this is

2410
03:25:53,750 --> 03:25:56,830
Why I respect what you just mentioned,

2411
03:25:59,000 --> 03:26:02,880
but if we can find the same resident and I'm going

2412
03:26:02,880 --> 03:26:05,560
to say it over and over, we hear it from the resident.

2413
03:26:06,400 --> 03:26:11,920
The same resident just supply just anywhere we want to go.

2414
03:26:12,540 --> 03:26:19,920
The same resident that we're hiring, we just could move it in the middle of any time we want.

2415
03:26:19,920 --> 03:26:28,100
I mean, not we, where does the city and the commission together, if we're not taking consideration

2416
03:26:28,100 --> 03:26:28,960
there?

2417
03:26:29,240 --> 03:26:33,100
Okay, I have reserved, I'm not, I'm trying not to touch it, that's true.

2418
03:26:33,660 --> 03:26:39,220
But what other alternative are we trying to try and to get, understand that we are a city

2419
03:26:39,220 --> 03:26:39,660
unnoticed.

2420
03:26:40,580 --> 03:26:47,200
A lot of things, the same thing, we're trying to remove some events, can we charge for them,

2421
03:26:47,340 --> 03:26:48,060
some of them?

2422
03:26:48,060 --> 03:26:56,720
Can we find other grants look for grants because if we're special with the specialists expert the tons of grants available

2423
03:26:58,120 --> 03:27:02,820
You can give me a list of how many of grants we can't get, but finding grants we can get

2424
03:27:03,620 --> 03:27:09,600
Find me other revenues we can get find other source of revenue. Those are the things I want to see the day we say

2425
03:27:09,600 --> 03:27:14,340
We find so many other revenues to find ways. I'm gonna agree. I will group with you

2426
03:27:14,340 --> 03:27:20,080
But my job here, our job here at this point is still to see how we can cut it down for the

2427
03:27:20,080 --> 03:27:21,960
resident, the same with charge everywhere.

2428
03:27:22,520 --> 03:27:24,360
But let me bring something else.

2429
03:27:24,820 --> 03:27:31,020
How much, see imagine, how much is costing the resident right now for the recycle cycle in

2430
03:27:31,020 --> 03:27:31,240
business?

2431
03:27:32,660 --> 03:27:35,560
The total cost for the recycling.

2432
03:27:35,920 --> 03:27:40,720
Well, I mean, I don't think we have a broken down by recycling or not, the total cost

2433
03:27:40,720 --> 03:27:47,480
that the residents pay right now were $499 a year, that's for garbage pickup, we pick up the

2434
03:27:47,480 --> 03:27:51,000
they do pick up the recycle as well as the bulk. So it's $499.

2435
03:27:51,760 --> 03:27:55,200
Okay, so the point is, and I'm talking to just what you say is expert,

2436
03:27:55,720 --> 03:28:00,440
how long will it be been paying for recycling in a, in a, in a, in a broad kind of

2437
03:28:00,440 --> 03:28:03,500
assisted, you know, Florida? How many years have we been doing that?

2438
03:28:05,020 --> 03:28:07,780
We've been, we've been paying recycle probably for about 20 years.

2439
03:28:07,780 --> 03:28:13,900
20 years, but recently with this, with it, with what's the management, they've been

2440
03:28:13,900 --> 03:28:17,600
in our contractor for about three years, so the last three years.

2441
03:28:18,380 --> 03:28:23,740
Okay, currently, how effective is recycling right now for the resident if paying for both?

2442
03:28:23,760 --> 03:28:24,880
How effective it is?

2443
03:28:26,320 --> 03:28:34,860
Recycling is not very effective right now, I mean, the market has fallen out for recycled goods

2444
03:28:34,860 --> 03:28:40,000
And so recycling is not something that has a value.

2445
03:28:40,460 --> 03:28:43,240
Right, but yet, we're isn't up in charge for that.

2446
03:28:43,600 --> 03:28:44,380
And I'm not a resident too.

2447
03:28:44,560 --> 03:28:46,920
I mean, I hear from resident, I go to other means.

2448
03:28:47,260 --> 03:28:48,940
I've been still charged for something,

2449
03:28:49,240 --> 03:28:50,020
is that being used?

2450
03:28:50,480 --> 03:28:52,440
Well, with all due respect,

2451
03:28:53,160 --> 03:28:56,280
whether it's in the blue cam or the brown cam,

2452
03:28:56,520 --> 03:28:59,980
residents are putting it in and waste management

2453
03:28:59,980 --> 03:29:03,400
is picking up and then we're paying to dispose of it.

2454
03:29:03,400 --> 03:29:08,580
Fair, fair, but the point is, I'm reaping what resident is telling me, okay.

2455
03:29:08,620 --> 03:29:12,460
Why are they paying for something or they could just put it all into a wall, but just want

2456
03:29:12,460 --> 03:29:17,740
pay one free instead of paying specifically for recycling, and so on.

2457
03:29:17,980 --> 03:29:19,080
That's a good point to have.

2458
03:29:19,560 --> 03:29:25,320
So if we look at that one, the base on basis and the settlement, I have to go along with

2459
03:29:25,320 --> 03:29:30,200
the resident to say that, why should we keep raising it and where we cannot even take care

2460
03:29:30,200 --> 03:29:34,820
because recycling is a big issue in the, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in no Florida

2461
03:29:34,820 --> 03:29:40,300
deal. So I'm going to consider that. I have to consider that. So as we asked to keep those

2462
03:29:40,300 --> 03:29:44,800
assessment down, I mean, they'll not down. They'll keep the way it is. But we need to hear

2463
03:29:44,800 --> 03:29:49,760
to, what, we're isn't, are complaining. Why are they paying some of them? I'm going to the

2464
03:29:49,760 --> 03:29:57,300
extreme to separate and then, and we mentioned recently that everything goes to it to one

2465
03:29:57,300 --> 03:29:59,840
So why are you paying for sorting them out now?

2466
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:27,080
When is that? It's not working. So that's where my argument is going to be here for with for Reset. So if there, why should we go up and with the same thing? So therefore, everybody's book at this point. So I'm going to say that again, as this, at this particular time in under the current circumstances, I do not support increasing this assessment again.

2467
03:30:28,650 --> 03:30:37,990
The reason repeatedly expressed their concern about affordability for this one there, and I'm directing this is

2468
03:30:37,990 --> 03:30:47,990
Magic can find a adjustment necessary to maintain this service there still for this time been through the chair.

2469
03:30:49,710 --> 03:30:53,890
I did ask if everybody had something else, you know, but I know I did I did say.

2470
03:30:53,890 --> 03:31:00,030
um okay, that was the motion I'm making there, I'll give you a second there did I give

2471
03:31:00,030 --> 03:31:05,550
a really I'll give see see um uh uh no down to go ahead. So I'm just going to make that motion

2472
03:31:05,550 --> 03:31:11,030
sorry? Yes. Uh really. Absolutely.

2473
03:31:11,210 --> 03:31:11,270
Buddy.

2474
03:31:11,950 --> 03:31:12,510
Recycling.

2475
03:31:13,830 --> 03:31:15,970
Manager. Yes ma'am?

2476
03:31:17,950 --> 03:31:25,190
Um can you please explain again. Why, now I'm not saying that you know we should whatever is

2477
03:31:25,190 --> 03:31:30,430
proposed tonight. We should just go along with it, but maybe we can meet halfway or something

2478
03:31:31,270 --> 03:31:35,030
because again, can you explain the consequences please?

2479
03:31:37,340 --> 03:31:41,060
Yes, Madam. So last year's cost was

2480
03:31:41,600 --> 03:31:50,380
$4.1 million and the revenue that we brought in was $4.1 million off of the $499.

2481
03:31:50,380 --> 03:31:58,960
dollars. The new cost is $4.6 million and often up for $4.6 million. We're looking

2482
03:31:58,960 --> 03:32:07,800
to increase the solid waste rate by $76 to $5.75. And so, absent the commission agreeing

2483
03:32:07,800 --> 03:32:17,280
to raise solid waste, we're looking at another for $500,000 out of reserves that will

2484
03:32:17,280 --> 03:32:19,480
need to use to balance this budget.

2485
03:32:19,880 --> 03:32:21,460
Now, we will reach out to waste management.

2486
03:32:22,260 --> 03:32:25,700
And we will ask waste management to give us a new proposal

2487
03:32:25,700 --> 03:32:29,680
where we do bulk once a month, or we do bulk quarterly.

2488
03:32:30,340 --> 03:32:33,140
We will look out what we spend for the household.

2489
03:32:33,720 --> 03:32:34,900
We do it once a month.

2490
03:32:35,120 --> 03:32:37,640
We will do bulk right now once a week.

2491
03:32:38,200 --> 03:32:40,700
We will ask waste management to give us a new proposal

2492
03:32:40,700 --> 03:32:45,360
to do bulk once a month, or quarterly once every quarter.

2493
03:32:45,360 --> 03:32:51,120
now what happens is because I have those apartment complexes back there right and if we don't

2494
03:32:51,120 --> 03:32:57,940
have consistent okay people picking up garbage then we continue to be that garbage dump back there

2495
03:32:57,940 --> 03:32:59,980
it's is going to be an issue.

2496
03:33:03,040 --> 03:33:11,880
So you so commissioner the apartments are under the city's service

2497
03:33:11,880 --> 03:33:16,560
right they have a contract with waste management but correct if we come back they may

2498
03:33:16,560 --> 03:33:22,480
cut back and if they don't pick up bulk on a weekly basis, then it could become a problem.

2499
03:33:23,420 --> 03:33:29,820
The other thing we'll look at is, as part of this, we have the agreement for the recycled

2500
03:33:29,820 --> 03:33:34,800
paint program and the household hazardous waste where we do that here in the adoptive

2501
03:33:34,800 --> 03:33:35,180
streets.

2502
03:33:35,500 --> 03:33:38,940
We'll have to look at that and see if that's something that we can eliminate.

2503
03:33:40,480 --> 03:33:46,040
Because, again, my concern is, we've shared these numbers with the commission we have

2504
03:33:46,040 --> 03:33:49,180
about $20 million in un-designated reserves.

2505
03:33:49,820 --> 03:33:55,600
We have about $40 plus million in designated reserves.

2506
03:33:55,780 --> 03:33:58,640
And one of those designated is if we have a hurricane, right?

2507
03:33:58,880 --> 03:34:00,940
So we have money set aside for that.

2508
03:34:01,520 --> 03:34:05,720
However, if we're going to use six or seven million dollars this year,

2509
03:34:06,680 --> 03:34:10,920
our $19 million goes to $12 million, right?

2510
03:34:10,960 --> 03:34:12,240
Or maybe even less.

2511
03:34:12,240 --> 03:34:27,380
And so I empathetic with the cost of the fire rescue fee, right, and I understand the desire to lower it, however,

2512
03:34:30,940 --> 03:34:32,240
right, yeah, this has no reserve.

2513
03:34:33,400 --> 03:34:37,380
So, and so we understand what has no reserve.

2514
03:34:37,380 --> 03:34:43,020
The solid waste special revenue fund has no reserves left in it.

2515
03:34:43,020 --> 03:34:50,540
So the results in the solid waste special revenue fund has no reserves left in it.

2516
03:34:51,120 --> 03:34:57,180
So the solid waste that people have paid in the past won't be able to pay moving forward.

2517
03:34:57,580 --> 03:34:59,980
126 it won't be able to do what again.

2518
03:35:00,080 --> 03:35:10,640
The reserves. So whatever reserves are needed to balance this, won't come from solid waste. And what residents have paid from solid waste in the past.

2519
03:35:11,240 --> 03:35:29,840
And so to soften the blow right to you, is there any desire to go to from 499 to 55530, but to bring in some additional revenue, because we're not able to write that the more we use reserves.

2520
03:35:29,840 --> 03:35:35,360
right, four, five years from now, you know, there could be issues.

2521
03:35:36,080 --> 03:35:42,120
If property tax passes next year, next budget year, we only lose $3 million.

2522
03:35:42,920 --> 03:35:51,840
The year after, when it goes from $125 to $250 to $250,000 exemption, we go to, we lose

2523
03:35:51,840 --> 03:35:57,480
about $4.5 million. When it goes to $500,000, we lose about $7 million.

2524
03:35:58,240 --> 03:36:02,540
Okay, and these services are still going to have to be paid for, right?

2525
03:36:02,540 --> 03:36:04,020
Because we still need to pick up garbage.

2526
03:36:04,300 --> 03:36:05,660
We still need to have a fire department.

2527
03:36:06,060 --> 03:36:07,660
We still need to have a police department.

2528
03:36:08,060 --> 03:36:13,260
We may not have much of anything else after that, but we need to make sure that, you know,

2529
03:36:13,260 --> 03:36:19,080
we are starting to pay, you know, that the residents are paying for the cost of the service.

2530
03:36:19,900 --> 03:36:25,460
And as I said earlier, right, if the will of the commission is for us to negotiate with waste management,

2531
03:36:25,460 --> 03:36:27,380
And we can certainly do that, right?

2532
03:36:27,540 --> 03:36:30,940
But that negotiation won't be instant, right?

2533
03:36:30,940 --> 03:36:34,040
So if it takes two months to come to a new agreement,

2534
03:36:34,040 --> 03:36:37,880
or three months, right, we start to lose money

2535
03:36:37,880 --> 03:36:41,640
on the service until, right, until we're able

2536
03:36:41,640 --> 03:36:44,980
to get to a point where the service is at the price

2537
03:36:44,980 --> 03:36:45,720
that we're charging.

2538
03:36:46,220 --> 03:36:49,380
And if the direction, again, from the commission today

2539
03:36:49,380 --> 03:36:53,480
is to use, right, reserves to balance this,

2540
03:36:53,480 --> 03:37:00,980
We will reach out to waste management tomorrow, and we will ask to meet with them, and we will have conversations with them about

2541
03:37:00,980 --> 03:37:03,980
Right, what is it cost if we do bulk once a month?

2542
03:37:04,300 --> 03:37:10,680
Right, does that create a problem for the residents? It will because they're going to have to store their bulk until it's about

2543
03:37:10,680 --> 03:37:16,440
Well, they're not going to be able to put it out on the swell. If we do bulk once a quarter, it'll be an issue

2544
03:37:16,440 --> 03:37:23,360
If we eliminate stability to come here and dump your household hazardous waste, you're going to have to drive to one of the county

2545
03:37:23,360 --> 03:37:29,280
locations to dump it. Those will just drive not to drive to one of the county

2546
03:37:29,280 --> 03:37:37,000
locations. So I would ask for some consideration, right? It's 575 is too much. And the

2547
03:37:37,000 --> 03:37:46,880
499 is enough. And can we meet in the middle somewhere at, you know, 535, 530, 540. But

2548
03:37:46,880 --> 03:37:52,340
something so we can bring in some additional revenue to help offset this cost. That would

2549
03:37:52,340 --> 03:37:56,860
Okay, all right. Let me see. I'm going to go that right now. I'm going to put my advocacy

2550
03:37:56,860 --> 03:38:04,820
chat hat on. Earlier, one of the commissioner proposed that we reduced salary for, um,

2551
03:38:05,000 --> 03:38:08,780
from the compensation, that salary for the commission. That's fine.

2552
03:38:12,960 --> 03:38:13,440
Some of the really

2553
03:38:13,440 --> 03:38:18,520
nowhere I'm going, and I'm going to go there anyway. I hear a lot of about touching the

2554
03:38:20,500 --> 03:38:27,100
consequences increase. I have not heard, we're going to try to work to find ways to find other

2555
03:38:27,100 --> 03:38:34,600
revenues in the city. There's many opportunities to do that. But yet, understand, it's

2556
03:38:34,600 --> 03:38:38,740
the same resident that I'm going to come with the same thing again, same resident, which

2557
03:38:38,740 --> 03:38:45,640
might find reason why we need to increase it for them. But how about other salaries, where

2558
03:38:45,640 --> 03:38:53,260
top, many of them were not looking at, are the projects we're not looking up to see to

2559
03:38:53,260 --> 03:39:03,140
study to find out what about those, because, because, because hold on, hold on, hold on.

2560
03:39:05,930 --> 03:39:14,650
The same reason that we are, we want to raise up there, and they say it and I'm going to say

2561
03:39:14,650 --> 03:39:22,430
because I'm a resident too okay they do not get increases and I agree I agree everything else

2562
03:39:22,430 --> 03:39:28,910
they do not get any of some of them out on fixed income they have to find it that's all I'm

2563
03:39:28,910 --> 03:39:35,690
looking at at this point that's my job at this point what are we doing for them where what are

2564
03:39:35,690 --> 03:39:42,650
getting other monies from say okay let's let's cut those and apply them for them we had an issue

2565
03:39:42,650 --> 03:39:45,250
the earlier and is going to come back again.

2566
03:39:48,120 --> 03:39:53,220
Pass. History showed that there is a

2567
03:39:53,220 --> 03:39:54,820
resistance suffer from

2568
03:39:57,000 --> 03:39:59,800
a previous garbage.

2569
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:10,640
Company. It was about $2 million. There has never been a dress. It has not been a dress. So to make it even worse, this

2570
03:40:10,640 --> 03:40:16,120
is the same thing we discussed right now. Okay, I understand. We got to increase increase increase. But

2571
03:40:16,120 --> 03:40:21,080
what is it we're going to, when is it going to be time for us to just say, okay, enough is enough,

2572
03:40:21,580 --> 03:40:27,220
let's do a good study and figure out where we're going to find more revenues. That's what I'm going

2573
03:40:27,220 --> 03:40:27,820
us.

2574
03:40:31,740 --> 03:40:38,080
We have to have alternatives different ways there. Jumping from one to up to 10 to 10

2575
03:40:38,080 --> 03:40:47,580
stories, it does not got to make it there. Do the chair mayor. Okay, so, so we don't have

2576
03:40:47,580 --> 03:40:50,140
a series. We missed those opportunities.

2577
03:40:52,750 --> 03:40:55,210
We have many other things that we're experts could

2578
03:40:55,210 --> 03:41:00,070
see. Well, let's look, let's tap into that one. Let's tap into that one until we come. The

2579
03:41:00,070 --> 03:41:04,990
Commission is waiting for a long time to find options to where you're going to which one

2580
03:41:04,990 --> 03:41:10,090
you're going to taking. Now what we're doing here is not what's going to cut it at all.

2581
03:41:10,410 --> 03:41:13,930
So at this point, the motion is to either we're going to step it. We're not going to step it.

2582
03:41:14,050 --> 03:41:15,410
Step where is that? Through the chair mayor.

2583
03:41:17,470 --> 03:41:25,130
843 you have the floor. Is there I know we are not entitled city, but is there any way that we can

2584
03:41:25,130 --> 03:41:31,750
me probably midway because I know what's being proposed tonight or what the recommendation

2585
03:41:31,750 --> 03:41:36,410
is tonight but is there any way that we can meet midway please or maybe we can come

2586
03:41:36,410 --> 03:41:38,290
up with a figure maybe we can hear from the residents.

2587
03:41:44,430 --> 03:41:54,330
I mean I mean if the commission wants to come up with an alternative number they certainly

2588
03:41:54,330 --> 03:42:01,570
can, right? I mean, every dollar added to the 499 is less in reserves that we're going

2589
03:42:01,570 --> 03:42:08,030
to have to commit to this. But again, it's the desire, it's the will of the commission. If the

2590
03:42:08,030 --> 03:42:15,450
commission wants us to, you know, commit additional reserves to this, then we will. We'll figure

2591
03:42:15,450 --> 03:42:23,050
out how to do that, and we'll commit those reserves. I can tell you, right? And this is no secret,

2592
03:42:23,050 --> 03:42:52,890
Right, in our budget plan, right, to balance the budget at 7.4, we've talked about this internally before, right, it will affect the employees, pure and simple, right, and I'm not saying this, it will affect the employees, everyone of the employees and I'm not saying that is a threat, right, I'm just saying that we are trying, right, there is an increase in services, right, diesel fuel is almost $7 a gallon, right, when this contract last year,

2593
03:42:52,890 --> 03:43:00,050
diesel fuel was $2 a gallon. And so every garbage truck runs on diesel fuel, salaries have gone up,

2594
03:43:00,290 --> 03:43:06,950
insurance has gone up. And so everything is going up every year. And so all we're trying to do is those

2595
03:43:06,950 --> 03:43:13,430
expenses that are passed on to us, we're just passing them along. If you look at this budget, right,

2596
03:43:13,430 --> 03:43:19,230
you'll see we're not adding anything to reserves to the solid waste reserves. It's not like that

2597
03:43:19,230 --> 03:43:27,150
we go to 530, we're going to be putting $45 from every resident into reserves so we

2598
03:43:27,150 --> 03:43:33,470
need to reserve. The 575 doesn't even need to reserve. And so if the Commission wants

2599
03:43:33,470 --> 03:43:40,850
to consider a midway fee, that's fine. Like I said, we will reach out to waste management tomorrow

2600
03:43:40,850 --> 03:43:46,770
and the next day and we will ask to sit down with them and have a conversation with them to

2601
03:43:46,770 --> 03:43:51,270
you know, we need to hold our, we're holding our assessment flat.

2602
03:43:52,110 --> 03:43:54,690
What can we do with them that will hold our assessment,

2603
03:43:55,210 --> 03:44:00,110
our cost flat, and then we'll report back to you with the options

2604
03:44:00,110 --> 03:44:02,170
that they give us.

2605
03:44:03,290 --> 03:44:07,770
So at this point, I make the motion that we maintain the existing rate.

2606
03:44:08,910 --> 03:44:10,490
Well, as you mentioned, see you manager,

2607
03:44:10,970 --> 03:44:16,090
and we continue to find ways to find other options there.

2608
03:44:16,090 --> 03:44:18,050
Yes sir. Through the chair Mayor.

2609
03:44:18,590 --> 03:44:20,030
Ma'am, we have to move.

2610
03:44:20,610 --> 03:44:22,910
I like you. You will like to speak many times.

2611
03:44:23,030 --> 03:44:24,250
Because we need to go ahead.

2612
03:44:24,590 --> 03:44:25,930
Go ahead. Go ahead.

2613
03:44:26,210 --> 03:44:26,510
Go ahead.

2614
03:44:26,530 --> 03:44:27,430
Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

2615
03:44:27,430 --> 03:44:27,450
Go ahead.

2616
03:44:29,970 --> 03:44:31,010
City manager.

2617
03:44:31,270 --> 03:44:32,250
Our staff here.

2618
03:44:32,370 --> 03:44:36,350
You guys work extremely hard trying to find ways

2619
03:44:37,470 --> 03:44:38,410
to supplement.

2620
03:44:39,330 --> 03:44:41,090
So I need you guys to understand that.

2621
03:44:41,370 --> 03:44:43,410
I mean, they're they're hard workers.

2622
03:44:44,050 --> 03:44:44,190
Okay.

2623
03:44:44,190 --> 03:44:51,450
And so when we're on the days and we say we'll need to find other ways, and etc, we are a non-titled city.

2624
03:44:52,230 --> 03:44:54,630
We're not privy to certain things.

2625
03:44:55,210 --> 03:44:59,490
And so we're really putting ourselves in a situation tonight.

2626
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:10,100
And unfortunately, where you guys are not going to really see this effect until maybe about a couple of months from today, a year from today, and then now where we're forced to make certain changes. Please constate.

2627
03:45:11,240 --> 03:45:15,180
Thank you. Madam Commissioner, this is five votes.

2628
03:45:16,340 --> 03:45:22,640
The item is we're going to move with it or not move away. When it comes to everybody, they can consciously, they will have failed.

2629
03:45:22,640 --> 03:45:28,140
You want to increase it on resident or don't that same boys that come down to everyone's have a voice

2630
03:45:28,140 --> 03:45:31,480
Let's move it. My name is been isn't moved in second it correct

2631
03:45:32,620 --> 03:45:38,160
I already make a motion. I made a motion. I did not hear a second is there a second

2632
03:45:38,800 --> 03:45:44,280
Okay, it's been second by vice mayor the motion is to maintain it or to

2633
03:45:44,280 --> 03:45:46,680
maintain their their assessment the way it is or

2634
03:45:47,640 --> 03:45:48,600
Accept it

2635
03:45:52,640 --> 03:45:55,940
a motion to approve this one.

2636
03:45:55,940 --> 03:45:58,320
Yes, to maintain to maintain to maintain an assessment.

2637
03:45:59,000 --> 03:46:00,160
Keep it the way it is.

2638
03:46:00,780 --> 03:46:03,160
So, which, which of the motions are you making?

2639
03:46:03,900 --> 03:46:05,520
Which motion did you make?

2640
03:46:05,660 --> 03:46:08,760
To keep the assessment the way it is.

2641
03:46:08,760 --> 03:46:08,780
Okay.

2642
03:46:08,960 --> 03:46:11,500
Motion to amend to, to, to.

2643
03:46:11,500 --> 03:46:11,840
Your mandate.

2644
03:46:12,080 --> 03:46:13,940
The assessment as it was in the past year.

2645
03:46:14,380 --> 03:46:17,180
Commissioner Martin, to the chair.

2646
03:46:18,780 --> 03:46:20,840
Where do we stand if we decided to go?

2647
03:46:22,700 --> 03:46:29,840
If you make a amendment, you go for it because it's two different amendments, we've got to go with the first one first.

2648
03:46:31,020 --> 03:46:31,820
Motion to amend.

2649
03:46:31,880 --> 03:46:33,600
I mean, we're not, I'm a correct.

2650
03:46:34,420 --> 03:46:40,240
You would go with the amended amended amendment, or do we go with the first amendment?

2651
03:46:41,020 --> 03:46:44,040
It should be the first amendment, we'll be the first to pass any five.

2652
03:46:44,240 --> 03:46:48,680
Because the first one is to, no, the first one is to go ahead.

2653
03:46:48,680 --> 03:46:55,300
No, the, what we had was a, this particular resolution was the set in its 535.

2654
03:46:55,900 --> 03:47:00,900
Right, you're making a motion to, to keep it the same rate.

2655
03:47:01,840 --> 03:47:08,000
Yes. Now, there's, she'd like to make a motion to, to make, to make, to make, to make, to be increased.

2656
03:47:08,440 --> 03:47:16,940
Basically, 50% of the, $76 that's been put on there, which is $38 more than the 499.

2657
03:47:18,500 --> 03:47:26,960
499 plus 38 is what she'd like to make as a motion, so which motion prevails, that's a question.

2658
03:47:26,980 --> 03:47:32,420
I believe that you have to go first by the second motion that was made.

2659
03:47:32,620 --> 03:47:36,000
We should keep the rate first.

2660
03:47:36,040 --> 03:47:37,280
No, the second amendment.

2661
03:47:37,680 --> 03:47:38,900
Okay, the second amendment.

2662
03:47:38,900 --> 03:47:46,240
amendment. Yeah. Okay. So, did we have a second on that one? Did we have a second on this? It made by a

2663
03:47:46,240 --> 03:47:51,560
commission. I'm sure a second on Commissioner Louis Grickett's motion. Is there a second on that?

2664
03:47:51,580 --> 03:47:57,860
Second on that, please. Okay. Then you go with a roll call. That's 537.

2665
03:47:58,620 --> 03:47:59,120
537.

2666
03:48:01,920 --> 03:48:02,200
Yes.

2667
03:48:03,280 --> 03:48:08,840
Call the roll. Call the roll, please. Commissioner Martin. I'm sorry. The first roll will be

2668
03:48:08,840 --> 03:48:11,720
for the 537.

2669
03:48:11,980 --> 03:48:13,100
For this one.

2670
03:48:13,460 --> 03:48:13,640
I'm sorry.

2671
03:48:14,000 --> 03:48:14,120
I'm sorry.

2672
03:48:14,320 --> 03:48:14,440
I'm sorry.

2673
03:48:16,060 --> 03:48:17,220
Remember this one?

2674
03:48:18,840 --> 03:48:19,000
Yes.

2675
03:48:21,160 --> 03:48:22,440
Vice-Nair Boost Monte.

2676
03:48:23,260 --> 03:48:24,600
I guess yes.

2677
03:48:24,720 --> 03:48:27,060
But can I ask a good question?

2678
03:48:28,860 --> 03:48:29,300
Yes.

2679
03:48:31,140 --> 03:48:31,640
I'd like to share.

2680
03:48:31,940 --> 03:48:32,500
I wanted to.

2681
03:48:32,820 --> 03:48:34,200
I have a question.

2682
03:48:34,940 --> 03:48:38,820
What happened if we take it off the day?

2683
03:48:38,820 --> 03:48:48,320
the blue can but you're not in a position to do that because that's in an agreement between

2684
03:48:48,320 --> 03:48:57,240
the city and the waste company. So you can direct the city manager to look into that,

2685
03:48:57,460 --> 03:49:02,000
but it's not really changing anything because the change has to be the agreement between

2686
03:49:02,000 --> 03:49:08,860
the city and the management company, you're to say what I'm saying, it's not up to the city

2687
03:49:08,860 --> 03:49:15,920
commission to change the terms of an agreement that's already executed. So you could suggest

2688
03:49:15,920 --> 03:49:22,020
that they could work on that, but you can't vote to change that right now. We can probably

2689
03:49:22,020 --> 03:49:27,820
save some money and that, you know, but I'm saying that you can direct the city manager to look

2690
03:49:27,820 --> 03:49:35,740
into that. But it's not a one-sided thing. It's an agreement between two parties. So if you

2691
03:49:35,740 --> 03:49:42,500
already have an agreement with the waste management company to do the blue can or whatever,

2692
03:49:43,280 --> 03:49:49,560
it's there now. You can't change it just by making a decision on the days. You can look into

2693
03:49:49,560 --> 03:49:53,720
but it's already there, so you can't modify it yourself.

2694
03:49:54,360 --> 03:49:59,980
Okay, right now, there was an amendment that was proposed.

2695
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:13,460
And then a second amendment, that was proposed. So we took the, if they take the second one, then they won't take the first one, et cetera. So right now the amendment that people were voting on was the 537,

2696
03:50:16,200 --> 03:50:21,840
that it would be the, that would be an increase of 30, eight dollars.

2697
03:50:22,900 --> 03:50:26,620
$38.00 and not in that of any $38.00.

2698
03:50:27,920 --> 03:50:29,850
We can say those $38.00.

2699
03:50:30,580 --> 03:50:31,020
And the future.

2700
03:50:32,160 --> 03:50:33,640
Is it yes or no?

2701
03:50:33,880 --> 03:50:34,160
Yes.

2702
03:50:34,740 --> 03:50:36,400
Yes to for it.

2703
03:50:36,620 --> 03:50:36,660
Yes.

2704
03:50:37,800 --> 03:50:42,300
I say yes, but I mean, I'm going to be looking for that further.

2705
03:50:42,640 --> 03:50:44,100
Take it off the look.

2706
03:50:45,020 --> 03:50:45,520
Under future.

2707
03:50:46,640 --> 03:50:47,780
Come back to your Louis.

2708
03:50:48,320 --> 03:50:48,700
Yes.

2709
03:50:49,200 --> 03:50:50,080
And Mayor Bogellon.

2710
03:50:50,200 --> 03:50:50,620
No.

2711
03:50:50,860 --> 03:50:51,440
Thank you.

2712
03:50:52,040 --> 03:50:56,140
All right to the chair. Just one quick question. Well, if he's done this item is over.

2713
03:50:56,320 --> 03:50:58,900
No, it's on the item. Just support of the item.

2714
03:50:59,420 --> 03:50:59,800
Yes.

2715
03:51:01,040 --> 03:51:04,740
We do need to talk with waste management because after meeting with them personally,

2716
03:51:05,460 --> 03:51:08,140
she told me we don't recycle. So if we are getting charged for it,

2717
03:51:08,140 --> 03:51:11,160
we do need to talk with them or look for another service provider.

2718
03:51:11,500 --> 03:51:11,780
That's all.

2719
03:51:12,060 --> 03:51:14,920
This was the exact point we made. Why?

2720
03:51:15,300 --> 03:51:18,900
We're increasing on the resident when they have a point there,

2721
03:51:18,900 --> 03:51:23,640
paying for something as they don't and that's what I'm saying suppose that. Why increase even one

2722
03:51:23,640 --> 03:51:29,920
penny on them? Is the CD coming broke on that one there? Is there any way can we find this?

2723
03:51:30,120 --> 03:51:35,640
Is it what illegal with the request to keep it there at this point in work? Something that's what it is.

2724
03:51:35,960 --> 03:51:41,540
And so this is all removed and that's fine. Okay. We just for the record, we pay by the

2725
03:51:41,540 --> 03:51:47,700
tonnage that they pick up whether it's in the blue can or the ground can. We pay by the tonnage

2726
03:51:47,700 --> 03:51:53,400
for the garbage that's picked up as well as the bulk. So when I spoke what

2727
03:51:53,400 --> 03:51:59,000
she said the blue can really is just a black can truthfully. Exactly. So, all right,

2728
03:51:59,220 --> 03:52:01,840
that's what we're looking to. Okay.

2729
03:52:03,900 --> 03:52:06,720
My name is Kenny, so there's no other monsters

2730
03:52:06,720 --> 03:52:14,020
than this one, this is done. This one is done. Okay, that's good. Okay. You have the floor for,

2731
03:52:14,020 --> 03:52:21,110
You have the floor for next item for C. It's almost done. Then after this meeting,

2732
03:52:21,410 --> 03:52:23,830
there we have another meeting here. It's almost done. Go ahead.

2733
03:52:24,270 --> 03:52:27,090
A resolution of the City Commission of the City of North Florida,

2734
03:52:27,150 --> 03:52:33,070
Dale Florida, relating to the provision of storm water management provided by the city storm

2735
03:52:33,070 --> 03:52:37,130
water management utility. In the city of North Florida, Dale Florida,

2736
03:52:37,610 --> 03:52:44,890
approving the storm water management utility assessment rate of $200 per ERU for the fiscal year.

2737
03:52:44,890 --> 03:52:51,730
beginning on October 1, 2026, imposing a stormwater management utility assessment against the

2738
03:52:51,730 --> 03:52:56,410
SES property, located within the city of North Florida, for the fiscal year of beginning

2739
03:52:56,410 --> 03:53:02,790
on October 1, 2026, providing facility, providing for conflicts and providing an effective

2740
03:53:04,070 --> 03:53:04,730
date.

2741
03:53:04,730 --> 03:53:07,270
See, imagine who's going to do a position.

2742
03:53:07,470 --> 03:53:10,870
Mr. Mayor, our budget manager will, and he is pleased to have sure.

2743
03:53:14,340 --> 03:53:22,720
In regards to the stormwater fiscal year 2027 projected budget and revenues, the budget itself

2744
03:53:22,720 --> 03:53:35,420
is a 15 million, 4, 15,700 and how we basically budgeted and balanced that was through

2745
03:53:35,420 --> 03:53:43,440
proposed assessment of 200 for the single family and 100 for the multi-family, which would

2746
03:53:43,440 --> 03:53:50,020
have generated three, a little over three million dollars. Grants and other revenues that we

2747
03:53:50,020 --> 03:53:59,340
expect to collect would be 11,348. And then this fund does have almost a million dollars in

2748
03:53:59,340 --> 03:54:05,700
balance so that would offset the gap so that's how that this fund was budgeted to the

2749
03:54:05,700 --> 03:54:13,820
15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. Now, what's really driving that is that we're looking

2750
03:54:13,820 --> 03:54:23,860
to do to fund the silver lake's drainage improvement which is a $5.9 million project and also

2751
03:54:23,860 --> 03:54:26,760
the Tamil Center, Paven and Drainage.

2752
03:54:27,260 --> 03:54:29,980
So those are the two major projects that's in that fund

2753
03:54:29,980 --> 03:54:30,880
that's driving it.

2754
03:54:30,980 --> 03:54:34,020
That we're looking to fund for 2027,

2755
03:54:35,720 --> 03:54:37,920
and that's what's driving the budget

2756
03:54:37,920 --> 03:54:43,080
of that $15 million a little over.

2757
03:54:43,720 --> 03:54:45,360
And that completes that.

2758
03:54:46,060 --> 03:54:49,280
Okay, this item is open to the public for any comments.

2759
03:54:59,300 --> 03:54:59,980
Good evening.

2760
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:08,080
Again, mayor, commissioners, in this particular, sorry, sorry for the record, city, my name is Linda Ashby,

2761
03:55:08,120 --> 03:55:12,920
I'm a resident of North Lauderdale. The proposed water-controlled district non-advalent

2762
03:55:12,920 --> 03:55:18,040
assessment is what we're discussing. In my particular situation, my annual assessment.

2763
03:55:18,520 --> 03:55:24,420
It's a stormwater assessment. I'm sorry, stormwater assessment.

2764
03:55:30,890 --> 03:55:33,810
The increase is from $95 to $200.

2765
03:55:33,810 --> 03:55:35,710
Is that correct?

2766
03:55:36,690 --> 03:55:36,790
No.

2767
03:55:39,900 --> 03:55:41,560
That's the water control district.

2768
03:55:52,510 --> 03:55:53,590
Pardon me.

2769
03:55:56,350 --> 03:56:00,690
Do you want to yield a time for someone else if this later on you can come back?

2770
03:56:01,130 --> 03:56:01,610
If you're searching?

2771
03:56:02,490 --> 03:56:02,710
Okay.

2772
03:56:02,850 --> 03:56:04,150
You could yield someone else.

2773
03:56:09,780 --> 03:56:09,960
Okay.

2774
03:56:10,240 --> 03:56:11,840
But I'm just wondering.

2775
03:56:12,040 --> 03:56:14,580
And we got 5.9 million per server lake drainage now.

2776
03:56:14,700 --> 03:56:17,700
Is it server lakes a HOA and isn't that there?

2777
03:56:17,900 --> 03:56:21,720
Or is this something like our canal program where it's.

2778
03:56:21,720 --> 03:56:25,860
They can't drain out because there's everything they've built has nowhere to go.

2779
03:56:25,980 --> 03:56:28,060
So that's why you guys ask about that.

2780
03:56:28,220 --> 03:56:30,840
So we know should the city be paying for that?

2781
03:56:31,000 --> 03:56:33,520
Or is that something they should be paying for? That's my only question.

2782
03:56:33,680 --> 03:56:36,080
Okay, we'll have city manager answer that later on.

2783
03:56:36,260 --> 03:56:37,180
Please, thank you.

2784
03:56:37,320 --> 03:56:38,280
Next person, please.

2785
03:56:41,240 --> 03:56:44,440
You received a gift. Can you bring back the relevant slide?

2786
03:56:51,170 --> 03:56:53,610
So what is the charge for commercial properties?

2787
03:56:54,310 --> 03:56:56,910
200 for single family, 100 for multi-family?

2788
03:56:57,370 --> 03:56:58,810
What about commercial properties?

2789
03:56:58,810 --> 03:57:07,570
Okay. My special assessment on this specific one, no closer to the stormwater assessment

2790
03:57:07,570 --> 03:57:18,650
went up from $6,500 to $9,400. 50% increased $3,000. And I'm still getting a

2791
03:57:18,650 --> 03:57:28,790
flooded when it rains heavily. Okay, is the administration about both to provide

2792
03:57:28,790 --> 03:57:32,730
Village is not in HOA association.

2793
03:57:33,130 --> 03:57:37,510
It is districts between 76 Avenue and 80th Avenue,

2794
03:57:38,070 --> 03:57:40,050
10th Street, 10th Court off of Kimberly Boulevard.

2795
03:57:40,430 --> 03:57:42,410
So it is just regular city streets.

2796
03:57:43,290 --> 03:57:47,330
And so there is a small portion, has drainage.

2797
03:57:47,370 --> 03:57:48,910
The rest does not have drainage.

2798
03:57:49,570 --> 03:57:52,030
And so this project would come in,

2799
03:57:52,130 --> 03:57:53,470
put all new drainage in.

2800
03:57:53,910 --> 03:57:56,090
And then obviously the roads will be repaved

2801
03:57:56,090 --> 03:57:58,250
and there'd be some medians put in as well.

2802
03:57:58,250 --> 03:58:09,670
and some landscaping, as for the cost for commercial, we'd have to look at his square footage

2803
03:58:09,670 --> 03:58:19,170
and we could get back in touch with him and let him know what the cost is for commercial.

2804
03:58:20,050 --> 03:58:26,810
And then as for the drainage, remember stormwater is where the city piping is.

2805
03:58:26,810 --> 03:58:31,610
And so in a parking lot, that's private property, and so the parking lot would need to be

2806
03:58:31,610 --> 03:58:36,950
able to drain out to our system, and then once it gets to our system, the eventual

2807
03:58:36,950 --> 03:58:41,090
goal will, the pump station will get rid of that water quicker.

2808
03:58:41,610 --> 03:58:47,610
So we can look and we'll get back to him on the exact cost for, I believe it's for permeable

2809
03:58:47,610 --> 03:58:48,150
surface.

2810
03:58:50,030 --> 03:58:50,730
Thank you.

2811
03:58:51,490 --> 03:58:52,370
Go ahead real quick.

2812
03:58:55,140 --> 03:59:00,340
are any of the non-advolume, one time, or those will become permanent.

2813
03:59:01,500 --> 03:59:05,940
In other words, you are talking here about doing this specific work on those lakes.

2814
03:59:07,060 --> 03:59:12,440
Okay, what's in the following year? Another lake, or it's one time seeing the non-advolume.

2815
03:59:12,960 --> 03:59:19,460
Meaning will there be a miracle, and next year we are going to see a decrease in the non-advolume, or forget about it.

2816
03:59:19,700 --> 03:59:21,100
Mr. Mayer, fine, good. Yes, you may.

2817
03:59:21,100 --> 03:59:28,940
So storm water, solid waste, and water control district are every year assessments, fires

2818
03:59:28,940 --> 03:59:34,060
have been the only thing that historically has gone for a period of time for five years,

2819
03:59:34,400 --> 03:59:38,440
that study that's done incorporates all of the fire costs for five years.

2820
03:59:39,020 --> 03:59:44,960
So these are each year, this is based on what the budget is and what the capital projects are.

2821
03:59:45,740 --> 03:59:49,740
So I can't guarantee next year there would be a reduction, there may be a reduction,

2822
03:59:49,740 --> 03:59:57,640
that may be the same, maybe a little bit more, but it's a buy year and buy budget item.

2823
04:00:00,270 --> 04:00:05,630
Does that make sense? Thank you very much. Yes, you're recognized for that.

2824
04:00:08,620 --> 04:00:19,300
My name is Linda Ashby. I'm a resident of North Lauderdale. This is for the storm water assessment. Again, I would like to oppose this proposition.

2825
04:00:19,300 --> 04:00:27,600
Because for me, that's an increase of 43% in a single year from 36 to 36, that's a 36-dollar increase.

2826
04:00:28,360 --> 04:00:32,360
Although 36 may sound insignificant to some in the city.

2827
04:00:33,680 --> 04:00:41,320
But it does not stand alone as a resident and simultaneously facing increases in the other areas like fire rescue water control.

2828
04:00:41,320 --> 04:00:47,060
And of course we've now renegotiated those when combined these charges create a substantial

2829
04:00:47,060 --> 04:00:50,500
financial financial burden on my part.

2830
04:00:50,500 --> 04:00:55,960
I recognize that North Lauderdale must maintain its drainage systems and added an address

2831
04:00:55,960 --> 04:00:56,320
flooding.

2832
04:00:57,020 --> 04:01:01,480
I live here and I understand the importance of effective storm waters management.

2833
04:01:01,600 --> 04:01:09,320
However, residents deserve documentation showing exactly why 43% increase is necessary, which

2834
04:01:09,320 --> 04:01:17,920
specific projects, it will find how the amount was calculated in what spending reductions or alternative funding sources were considered.

2835
04:01:18,400 --> 04:01:31,100
Again, I state as a senior citizen living here on a fixed income, I cannot increase my income by 43% whenever someone else, whenever one of my expenses rises.

2836
04:01:31,760 --> 04:01:36,940
I must prioritize reduced spending and phase in cost over time.

2837
04:01:36,940 --> 04:01:45,720
And I really suggest that the city consider gradual increases in the funding of these specific

2838
04:01:45,720 --> 04:01:48,320
non-advalorant issues.

2839
04:01:49,640 --> 04:01:53,180
I emailed, I just emailed you regarding a possible solution.

2840
04:01:53,480 --> 04:01:59,580
I understand that you have stated that you're very concerned about all the issues and

2841
04:01:59,580 --> 04:02:03,080
you want to educate us and you do believe that these increases are necessary.

2842
04:02:03,740 --> 04:02:10,600
However, as a senior citizen may I propose, and I've sent you the email, to at least consider

2843
04:02:10,600 --> 04:02:16,280
a gradual increase so that we're not so significantly burdened by the cost.

2844
04:02:16,620 --> 04:02:20,040
For me this year, this burden is just overwhelming.

2845
04:02:20,400 --> 04:02:23,340
It's actually an entire month of my income.

2846
04:02:23,840 --> 04:02:30,040
So I will have to live 12 months on 11 months of income or go get a job, which I'm looking

2847
04:02:30,040 --> 04:02:34,500
if you're looking for somebody with experience.

2848
04:02:35,340 --> 04:02:37,040
Thank you. Thank you.

2849
04:02:38,360 --> 04:02:42,200
Okay. Any further questions from the public?

2850
04:02:42,980 --> 04:02:43,320
Have you done?

2851
04:02:44,160 --> 04:02:44,360
Okay.

2852
04:02:45,480 --> 04:02:45,680
Yes.

2853
04:02:47,740 --> 04:02:50,300
Guys, this is the last time I'm coming to the podium today.

2854
04:02:52,300 --> 04:02:55,460
When we buy investment properties on one,

2855
04:02:55,680 --> 04:02:58,340
when every investor, when they look at investment properties,

2856
04:02:58,340 --> 04:03:04,820
It's well known that in South Florida, you can calculate your real estate taxes as about

2857
04:03:04,820 --> 04:03:05,620
2%.

2858
04:03:05,620 --> 04:03:10,920
If you buy a property for a million dollars, you know in your head, my real estate taxes are

2859
04:03:10,920 --> 04:03:12,480
going to be more or less 20k.

2860
04:03:12,920 --> 04:03:17,360
That's more or less a rule of thumb, can be 25, can be 19, that's about.

2861
04:03:19,360 --> 04:03:25,960
When I look at my tax belief, if this were to be to get approved, we are above 3%.

2862
04:03:25,960 --> 04:03:30,040
And that probably would be the highest tax bracket I have seen in South Florida.

2863
04:03:32,620 --> 04:03:33,760
So bear that in mind.

2864
04:03:33,760 --> 04:03:39,060
I know that here, the commission, the amount in mentioned, hey, we need money to support

2865
04:03:39,060 --> 04:03:39,660
it.

2866
04:03:40,000 --> 04:03:43,360
If it's not going to come from one place, it needs to come from another pocket.

2867
04:03:43,600 --> 04:03:44,460
Totally understandable.

2868
04:03:44,940 --> 04:03:48,300
However, different cities are able to operate on a budget.

2869
04:03:48,820 --> 04:03:53,780
I mean, on the real estate, it's a real estate tax side of the budget at about 2%, 2,

2870
04:03:53,780 --> 04:04:00,940
to 0.2, 1.9, that's about where it is. And that's Ad Vologam and Non Ad Vologam. In other

2871
04:04:00,940 --> 04:04:06,880
words, when I'm sitting here and I know I'm about 3% something doesn't add up. Something

2872
04:04:06,880 --> 04:04:14,080
doesn't add up. Now the 2% is a 2% from current market rate and current market rates

2873
04:04:14,080 --> 04:04:20,560
have been going up dramatically in the last few years. So it's never staying the same amount

2874
04:04:20,560 --> 04:04:25,820
the city. You're getting 2% every year from an increased amount. Again, I'm talking commercial,

2875
04:04:26,180 --> 04:04:34,900
non-holested properties, a bit of a different look. Thank you. Thank you. It's back to, thank you,

2876
04:04:34,940 --> 04:04:41,380
probably comments is close. Have a none. Now there are speakers. Now it's back to the commission

2877
04:04:41,380 --> 04:04:43,000
for discussion.

2878
04:04:48,180 --> 04:04:54,280
Okay. If you have no discussion, that's it. Well, let me let go with my one,

2879
04:04:54,280 --> 04:04:59,790
our city of city's significant bridge.

2880
04:05:00,180 --> 04:05:10,360
Issue that we have in the storm of water infrastructure needs. And those needs are real.

2881
04:05:13,310 --> 04:05:13,950
But nevertheless,

2882
04:05:15,030 --> 04:05:24,770
the, at this time, and again, under the current circumstances, we heard the resident, many of them

2883
04:05:24,770 --> 04:05:26,110
talk about the same thing

2884
04:05:28,220 --> 04:05:38,330
again, I would like to see the city continue to pursue infrastructure

2885
04:05:39,350 --> 04:05:39,870
funding,

2886
04:05:43,490 --> 04:05:49,830
pursue grants, if I can, can say that. Other responsible funding sources,

2887
04:05:53,350 --> 04:05:53,470
I have

2888
04:05:53,470 --> 04:05:58,210
to take in consideration what the residents are asking for at this point, at this point

2889
04:05:58,210 --> 04:06:05,830
of time. Did we have another option? I didn't have any option right there, except to

2890
04:06:05,830 --> 04:06:11,030
approve it. I'm not prepared to support an increase in this assessment.

2891
04:06:13,070 --> 04:06:13,070
I'm

2892
04:06:13,070 --> 04:06:19,010
support, please. I support maintaining this existing rate while the city

2893
04:06:19,010 --> 04:06:26,730
continue to find grants or any other source that they do. So I just made that

2894
04:06:26,730 --> 04:06:37,950
Motion there to amend it to keep the rate the same as the same way do I have a second it is second it

2895
04:06:39,450 --> 04:06:51,870
What I'm close to the chair in regards to the grants we actually have 11.3 million dollars in grants that we're budgeting for 2027 in this fund

2896
04:06:51,870 --> 04:06:52,930
Okay, well

2897
04:06:52,930 --> 04:06:56,050
I understand, but this is not quite a matter.

2898
04:06:56,390 --> 04:06:57,690
I don't identify any grants.

2899
04:06:57,910 --> 04:06:59,830
I'm saying many other sources.

2900
04:07:01,150 --> 04:07:01,990
That's many other sources.

2901
04:07:02,230 --> 04:07:04,330
Because I'm going to make it clear.

2902
04:07:05,530 --> 04:07:09,530
If I have a commission or mayor, a commission,

2903
04:07:10,210 --> 04:07:12,690
if I have to accept everything that's presented to me,

2904
04:07:12,750 --> 04:07:15,910
then there's no need for us to present to me to vote.

2905
04:07:17,110 --> 04:07:20,910
If I'm told, we have to accept everything we can achieve.

2906
04:07:20,910 --> 04:07:23,390
That's why we have the individual votes.

2907
04:07:24,150 --> 04:07:26,670
I made a motion myself, based on what I hear,

2908
04:07:27,190 --> 04:07:31,190
I've been hearing over it and not just in this room, all across the city,

2909
04:07:31,470 --> 04:07:34,190
whereas in this timing there,

2910
04:07:34,890 --> 04:07:38,850
so back to the draw, drawing board,

2911
04:07:39,230 --> 04:07:41,730
to figure out other ways to find revenues for the city.

2912
04:07:42,090 --> 04:07:44,830
So I cannot charge myself.

2913
04:07:45,250 --> 04:07:46,130
I'm just one vote.

2914
04:07:47,350 --> 04:07:49,830
I will not be able to sleep tonight if I increase anything

2915
04:07:49,830 --> 04:07:55,830
to me tonight. So it's five votes. It's been moved and seconded?

2916
04:07:56,850 --> 04:07:57,470
Yes.

2917
04:07:59,650 --> 04:08:01,590
I'm sorry to say that again?

2918
04:08:01,930 --> 04:08:03,590
That was by Vice Mayor.

2919
04:08:03,650 --> 04:08:05,350
It's been moved and seconded.

2920
04:08:05,930 --> 04:08:07,150
Okay. Thank you.

2921
04:08:07,330 --> 04:08:08,130
Through the chair mayor.

2922
04:08:08,750 --> 04:08:11,210
Well, how are we going to go with this again?

2923
04:08:11,590 --> 04:08:12,930
We made a motion already.

2924
04:08:14,850 --> 04:08:16,750
I asked earlier if there's any question,

2925
04:08:16,750 --> 04:08:21,770
Nobody answered the question. Now we move on to the motion. It's been moved and seconded.

2926
04:08:22,810 --> 04:08:23,530
Yes. Yes.

2927
04:08:23,530 --> 04:08:30,570
May I have to say that when there's a motion, even if it doesn't say motion for discussion,

2928
04:08:30,770 --> 04:08:34,650
if it just is a motion, you don't need to specify the question.

2929
04:08:34,810 --> 04:08:40,910
When you say motion to approve or motion, whatever motion it is, you get a second.

2930
04:08:41,190 --> 04:08:45,190
There's an opportunity for discussion right after that.

2931
04:08:45,190 --> 04:08:54,090
and you give the opportunity to anyone who wants to speak back quite, motion, second, discussion, then vote.

2932
04:08:55,070 --> 04:08:55,310
Thank you.

2933
04:08:55,890 --> 04:08:58,390
It was moved to proof.

2934
04:08:58,730 --> 04:08:59,050
Right.

2935
04:08:59,530 --> 04:09:05,650
Even if you move to approve, whatever you call it, if you call it motion for discussion, motion, simply, motion to approve.

2936
04:09:06,210 --> 04:09:15,170
Once you make a motion and you get a second, there's a gap between the vote and which is, there's a gap for discussion.

2937
04:09:15,170 --> 04:09:20,750
that you give them an opportunity to discuss it.

2938
04:09:20,830 --> 04:09:21,990
No matter what you call it.

2939
04:09:22,090 --> 04:09:25,270
Once a motion is made and you have a second,

2940
04:09:25,650 --> 04:09:27,690
there's a gap for discussion, then you vote.

2941
04:09:28,930 --> 04:09:30,510
Well, I'm going to disagree with you.

2942
04:09:30,510 --> 04:09:32,410
I'm not saying, I mean, we already,

2943
04:09:32,430 --> 04:09:36,070
usually we will, once we move to approve it,

2944
04:09:36,250 --> 04:09:38,330
we will be seconded and we will go to the roll call.

2945
04:09:38,650 --> 04:09:41,270
Right, that's because usually you do a,

2946
04:09:41,510 --> 04:09:43,490
sometimes I've noticed you do it here.

2947
04:09:43,490 --> 04:09:49,410
It's not necessary, but sometimes you do a motion to discuss, then you get a second, then

2948
04:09:49,410 --> 04:09:53,950
you have a discussion, then you move to approve, then you get a second, then you just

2949
04:09:53,950 --> 04:09:54,250
vote.

2950
04:09:54,730 --> 04:09:59,970
But since you didn't have a discussion period, you just had a motion and a second, there's

2951
04:10:00,540 --> 04:10:28,300
There's an opportunity to discuss before you vote. Okay, in that case, I'm going to ask you if you could just standardize it for us to. We have it because otherwise it is, you know, it's not, it is Robert rules. Once there's a motion, any motion, whatever you want to call it, motion to approve motion to discuss motion. Once there's a motion, there's a second, there's an opportunity right after that for discussion. So if you don't have any motions for discussion, you just have a regular motion to approve.

2952
04:10:28,300 --> 04:10:32,120
You don't even have to do the discussion one you just go regular motions for a pool

2953
04:10:32,120 --> 04:10:36,200
You get a second then you have an opportunity for discussion before the vote

2954
04:10:36,200 --> 04:10:44,300
Okay, so I just want to be clear because I that's fine. Yeah, no, but that means after that after even though we made a motion to approve it

2955
04:10:44,300 --> 04:10:46,200
Yes, we're really seconded it

2956
04:10:46,200 --> 04:10:50,740
Yes, and then we're going to another motion to you don't need any more to okay motion

2957
04:10:50,740 --> 04:10:53,060
You just have a discussion, but join the discussion

2958
04:10:53,060 --> 04:10:58,940
that doesn't change anything, meaning your motion is still on the floor. Your second is still there.

2959
04:10:59,400 --> 04:11:02,260
After the discussion, then you take a vote call.

2960
04:11:02,520 --> 04:11:04,200
That's no problem at all. Okay.

2961
04:11:04,340 --> 04:11:05,060
The change of motion.

2962
04:11:05,360 --> 04:11:06,020
Yes. Okay.

2963
04:11:06,980 --> 04:11:07,380
Go ahead.

2964
04:11:07,760 --> 04:11:08,660
Through the chair mayor.

2965
04:11:09,560 --> 04:11:11,100
Yes. That is a part of Robert Rolls.

2966
04:11:11,360 --> 04:11:12,500
That's what we actually learned.

2967
04:11:12,580 --> 04:11:13,980
Thank you for mentioning that.

2968
04:11:14,240 --> 04:11:17,060
I just want to, if you can reiterate that for us, please,

2969
04:11:17,420 --> 04:11:22,780
you said that there's 11.3, that 11.11 million that we have to match.

2970
04:11:25,980 --> 04:11:32,460
So, okay, so to the chair, the grants and other revenues is 11.3.

2971
04:11:32,480 --> 04:11:33,440
You saw Bill Grant?

2972
04:11:33,900 --> 04:11:40,240
Yeah, there's grants and other revenues that's 11.3 and we do have to match the funds that

2973
04:11:40,240 --> 04:11:42,480
we're getting in regards to that.

2974
04:11:42,840 --> 04:11:49,020
So, the 5.9 and the $4 million for this time was sent to those are required to be matched.

2975
04:11:50,160 --> 04:11:55,960
So, I really want you to say that again, we have 11.3 and grants and we

2976
04:11:55,960 --> 04:12:04,960
must match, right? And so if we choose not to, do we lose that 11.3? We won't say necessarily

2977
04:12:04,960 --> 04:12:09,800
lose it, but we'd have to figure out how we will match it. So if this fund cannot support

2978
04:12:09,800 --> 04:12:16,540
that, we'll have to rely on other sources to identify other revenue sources to be able

2979
04:12:16,540 --> 04:12:20,300
to match that, so we don't lose it, but it is a requirement.

2980
04:12:23,170 --> 04:12:25,250
Yeah. So in other words,

2981
04:12:25,250 --> 04:12:27,430
these projects won't be funded.

2982
04:12:28,750 --> 04:12:32,290
If we don't identify additional funding sources, no.

2983
04:12:32,710 --> 04:12:34,470
Right, because right now, on the table,

2984
04:12:34,750 --> 04:12:37,250
we have $11 million, right?

2985
04:12:37,730 --> 04:12:38,730
It is, yes, we do.

2986
04:12:42,610 --> 04:12:45,030
Mission, just to add that.

2987
04:12:45,030 --> 04:12:45,930
Can you please begin?

2988
04:12:46,370 --> 04:12:50,650
The total cost of the project is a 15 plus million.

2989
04:12:51,170 --> 04:12:53,550
So if we don't match it or move it,

2990
04:12:53,910 --> 04:12:55,270
the project is short funded.

2991
04:12:56,450 --> 04:12:58,250
So we have how much would it be short funded?

2992
04:12:58,250 --> 04:13:03,070
by the additional 4 million plus that we need in matching funds.

2993
04:13:03,410 --> 04:13:09,910
Okay, so right now, I just want you to explain, we have in grants.

2994
04:13:09,910 --> 04:13:14,590
Yeah, we are on the revenue that tolls 11 plus million.

2995
04:13:15,150 --> 04:13:19,030
The toll cost of the project is 15 plus million.

2996
04:13:19,770 --> 04:13:27,970
So there's a short fall that the assessment was support the additional funds that are needed to complete the project.

2997
04:13:27,970 --> 04:13:31,790
So, when we vote no, we will lose the grants.

2998
04:13:32,430 --> 04:13:36,410
Yes, you can only get up to have the amount that you've extended.

2999
04:13:38,290 --> 04:13:38,610
Okay.

3000
04:13:39,490 --> 04:13:40,070
Thank you.

3001
04:13:40,130 --> 04:13:41,490
Let me ask you a question there.

3002
04:13:42,110 --> 04:13:44,990
If we go in there, we're going to go straight to that question there.

3003
04:13:45,570 --> 04:13:46,990
Several weeks, drainage improvement.

3004
04:13:47,790 --> 04:13:50,590
As well as time of shelter paving and drainage improvement.

3005
04:13:52,310 --> 04:13:53,170
It's not a new project.

3006
04:13:53,350 --> 04:13:54,730
It's been there for years.

3007
04:13:55,690 --> 04:13:58,730
When is it going to start this year?

3008
04:13:59,770 --> 04:14:00,970
Let's say it's approved.

3009
04:14:01,530 --> 04:14:04,150
If it's approved tonight, when is it going to start?

3010
04:14:06,630 --> 04:14:07,670
That public works answer.

3011
04:14:07,970 --> 04:14:09,150
It's their project.

3012
04:14:11,400 --> 04:14:11,520
It's me.

3013
04:14:13,240 --> 04:14:15,580
Can you say for the record?

3014
04:14:16,480 --> 04:14:17,500
Neil Buckeridge.

3015
04:14:18,300 --> 04:14:20,020
It's a report that works utilities director.

3016
04:14:20,940 --> 04:14:22,420
So the civil exchange drain is improvement.

3017
04:14:22,700 --> 04:14:23,900
It's engineering right now.

3018
04:14:24,100 --> 04:14:26,620
And that should be going out in the middle of the 2027.

3019
04:14:26,620 --> 04:14:31,340
The time of shenner is also in engineer design right now.

3020
04:14:31,660 --> 04:14:35,940
That is expected to go out in October 20, mid-27, early 28.

3021
04:14:39,330 --> 04:14:45,110
So, how does it going to change whether we keep the rate assessment the same way?

3022
04:14:46,050 --> 04:14:48,890
How is it going to impact it?

3023
04:14:49,210 --> 04:14:53,450
Well, as was stated before, these are grandfather projects that require matching funds.

3024
04:14:54,030 --> 04:14:55,630
So, the matching funds are coming out of reserves.

3025
04:14:56,130 --> 04:14:59,970
And we have to put that money back, so that's why we're the reason for that.

3026
04:15:03,000 --> 04:15:15,880
Okay, that's in your term, and my concern is again for finance or wherever the department is to figure out other ways to find out.

3027
04:15:16,160 --> 04:15:19,460
If we're to keep it at the same, that's on my concern.

3028
04:15:23,400 --> 04:15:28,700
We are still actively looking for additional grant funds, so we have spoken with a quite a few people.

3029
04:15:29,820 --> 04:15:32,860
It's going to be released, but it's going to take time.

3030
04:15:33,740 --> 04:15:40,740
Okay, so I mean, I join you at this point, I mean, we have not exhausted everything so far.

3031
04:15:41,060 --> 04:15:41,580
We have not.

3032
04:15:41,600 --> 04:15:42,080
No, it's correct.

3033
04:15:42,080 --> 04:15:42,620
I still have to pay.

3034
04:15:43,020 --> 04:15:43,280
Okay.

3035
04:15:44,080 --> 04:15:52,640
If I could, staff recently participated in a call with Department of Emergency Management FEMA.

3036
04:15:52,720 --> 04:15:57,940
On the federal side, they have money available for resiliency projects.

3037
04:15:57,940 --> 04:16:07,060
And so we are looking to see if this, if the temperature and boulevard project would qualify as a resiliency project.

3038
04:16:07,760 --> 04:16:11,040
And if it does, we will apply for a grant for it.

3039
04:16:11,180 --> 04:16:17,220
The other contingency part would be sometimes you can use federal money to match a state grant.

3040
04:16:17,520 --> 04:16:24,740
But sometimes you can't. So that's something also that our grant writer will be looking into to make sure that we can apply for that.

3041
04:16:24,980 --> 04:16:25,760
So we can apply.

3042
04:16:25,760 --> 04:16:31,620
Okay, so what's the total for total for the project this project any both projects there?

3043
04:16:31,680 --> 04:16:36,280
What's the total needed required because we're talking about over years and years?

3044
04:16:37,660 --> 04:16:38,820
Why is the total?

3045
04:16:40,180 --> 04:16:44,080
So, so, total for ten more, go back to ten more?

3046
04:16:47,190 --> 04:16:47,690
Ten more?

3047
04:16:47,730 --> 04:16:47,850
Ten more?

3048
04:16:48,450 --> 04:16:48,730
Ten more?

3049
04:16:48,730 --> 04:16:48,870
Ten more?

3050
04:16:49,350 --> 04:16:49,650
Ten more?

3051
04:16:49,650 --> 04:16:58,110
Ten more?

3052
04:16:58,110 --> 04:17:00,150
and we have to measure it in the fight back.

3053
04:17:01,650 --> 04:17:07,630
So, total is bound to live, well, total for the grants, right?

3054
04:17:08,310 --> 04:17:13,310
I, okay, okay, let me, let me myself clear, let me myself clear,

3055
04:17:13,850 --> 04:17:14,890
let me myself clear, we have the silver legs,

3056
04:17:15,290 --> 04:17:17,750
drainage improvement and Tamashender,

3057
04:17:17,930 --> 04:17:20,250
appearing and doing improvement together.

3058
04:17:20,690 --> 04:17:23,970
What is the total of expected for the whole project?

3059
04:17:24,390 --> 04:17:27,470
Is it 20 million, is it 15 million, is it 10 million,

3060
04:17:27,470 --> 04:17:29,610
What are we at this point?

3061
04:17:29,870 --> 04:17:31,630
Okay, so several days with a matching grant.

3062
04:17:31,790 --> 04:17:31,970
Total.

3063
04:17:32,210 --> 04:17:35,970
You're looking at, you look at 11.8.

3064
04:17:36,370 --> 04:17:37,870
11.8.

3065
04:17:38,850 --> 04:17:39,750
In the second one.

3066
04:17:39,890 --> 04:17:40,990
And then second one.

3067
04:17:42,790 --> 04:17:45,230
So it's 5.2 if I remember correctly.

3068
04:17:45,570 --> 04:17:47,590
So I had another 5.2 that's 10.4.

3069
04:17:50,540 --> 04:17:51,960
Can I give you a total of what?

3070
04:17:52,220 --> 04:17:52,940
I'm not good at math.

3071
04:17:54,400 --> 04:17:54,660
I'm sorry.

3072
04:17:55,400 --> 04:17:57,020
I just need to know.

3073
04:17:58,000 --> 04:17:58,740
21.2 minutes.

3074
04:17:58,740 --> 04:18:05,960
31. 21. 21. 21. Okay, so by not, by keeping the assessment, the way it is right now today,

3075
04:18:06,560 --> 04:18:13,600
how is it going to hurt? Because we're not there. This is 5.9 plus 4. Right now, there's not

3076
04:18:13,600 --> 04:18:19,100
give me 21. I'm not even close to 21. That means the project will not even start.

3077
04:18:21,120 --> 04:18:27,120
The point, I'm trying to make sure that if we, if we start in project tomorrow or next month or this year,

3078
04:18:28,360 --> 04:18:33,320
passing this assessment that we wanted from $90 to $200 for the

3079
04:18:33,860 --> 04:18:37,900
resident. How is it going to be, I want to say if the project

3080
04:18:37,900 --> 04:18:41,100
is going to be done at this point, if not going to be done, when is it

3081
04:18:41,100 --> 04:18:45,420
going to start? And I'm like, I'm saying, this has been been for over

3082
04:18:45,420 --> 04:18:48,960
four years, everything that I became a commissioner, 2016.

3083
04:18:50,120 --> 04:18:52,960
All right. So, like I said, right now, I've

3084
04:18:52,960 --> 04:18:55,900
It's in an engineering phase design phase, right?

3085
04:18:56,120 --> 04:19:00,680
That's all, I think we're paying 1.1 million dollars right now for that design.

3086
04:19:01,300 --> 04:19:03,160
Okay, all right, we'll get, yeah.

3087
04:19:03,420 --> 04:19:07,100
Yeah, my question is still not, I mean, what those two projects went, are they good?

3088
04:19:07,460 --> 04:19:09,460
I want to have a timeline, when is it going to start?

3089
04:19:11,480 --> 04:19:11,800
All right.

3090
04:19:11,880 --> 04:19:15,000
All right.

3091
04:19:17,270 --> 04:19:17,590
All right.

3092
04:19:18,710 --> 04:19:18,990
So construct.

3093
04:19:20,450 --> 04:19:22,030
So projects already started.

3094
04:19:22,130 --> 04:19:22,750
They're an engineering.

3095
04:19:23,170 --> 04:19:24,970
The construction portion now.

3096
04:19:24,970 --> 04:19:26,410
That's what you're looking for, sir.

3097
04:19:26,610 --> 04:19:31,750
The construction portion of Civil Lakes is going to start in early 27th.

3098
04:19:31,850 --> 04:19:33,470
Like we're talking about, January.

3099
04:19:34,130 --> 04:19:36,030
Once all the engineering and permits are done,

3100
04:19:36,850 --> 04:19:37,290
we'll give you a start.

3101
04:19:37,470 --> 04:19:38,710
We'll be able to come back to you with a start.

3102
04:19:40,210 --> 04:19:42,510
And construction is not going to start in a time of shen or until

3103
04:19:44,950 --> 04:19:46,730
around 28, 20, 28.

3104
04:19:47,850 --> 04:19:48,990
Let me put it in the last way.

3105
04:19:49,710 --> 04:19:51,350
Last way I can understand for now.

3106
04:19:51,350 --> 04:19:58,650
Okay, by keeping the assessment the same as it is, we'll stop the project at all.

3107
04:20:01,300 --> 04:20:10,360
We would have to move forward with the project service, because these are, um, yeah, state grant funds grant funds that we're using. So, okay, we still need to replenish our service.

3108
04:20:10,660 --> 04:20:13,560
That's good. As long we have a project plan for me.

3109
04:20:13,960 --> 04:20:20,620
For my residence, I'm looking at, because we have a lot of assessment and this particular case also is doubling up.

3110
04:20:20,800 --> 04:20:28,920
I didn't get, we didn't get three options, whether it's going to be $95, $100, but it's going from $90 to $200.

3111
04:20:29,460 --> 04:20:30,940
I just want to see.

3112
04:20:31,120 --> 04:20:34,220
That's what I'm what what whatever what it is.

3113
04:20:34,240 --> 04:20:35,740
One for what it's one for.

3114
04:20:36,100 --> 04:20:38,140
Okay, so it's we've just heard the resist.

3115
04:20:38,560 --> 04:20:40,400
Many of them say same thing.

3116
04:20:40,760 --> 04:20:41,920
I'm looking that's what I'm looking for.

3117
04:20:47,820 --> 04:20:47,960
Okay.

3118
04:20:48,160 --> 04:20:49,740
Then it was moved it.

3119
04:20:50,360 --> 04:20:51,300
We already moved it.

3120
04:20:51,520 --> 04:20:51,680
Okay.

3121
04:20:52,180 --> 04:20:52,320
Okay.

3122
04:20:52,680 --> 04:20:53,880
We moved it and second it.

3123
04:20:55,980 --> 04:20:56,440
So got to try.

3124
04:20:56,680 --> 04:20:56,940
Five votes.

3125
04:20:57,540 --> 04:20:58,880
Just just.

3126
04:20:59,160 --> 04:21:00,760
Can we get to a middle ground or someone?

3127
04:21:01,140 --> 04:21:01,880
Can we.

3128
04:21:01,880 --> 04:21:03,620
or what I would call for the amendment.

3129
04:21:11,700 --> 04:21:12,140
1923.

3130
04:21:13,760 --> 04:21:15,380
Next, can we get to a middle ground?

3131
04:21:15,720 --> 04:21:18,480
But those are, as I'm trying to say,

3132
04:21:19,160 --> 04:21:22,060
is require studies, we don't just, I don't

3133
04:21:22,060 --> 04:21:23,920
see, we just throw numbers at that.

3134
04:21:24,020 --> 04:21:25,780
We've got to have purpose, what it is,

3135
04:21:25,920 --> 04:21:27,380
what the consequences are,

3136
04:21:27,940 --> 04:21:30,140
or how it's going to benefit, or not benefit the reason.

3137
04:21:30,260 --> 04:21:31,700
That's all I'm looking at, this is for.

3138
04:21:32,580 --> 04:21:34,740
Because through, through the chair, mayor.

3139
04:21:35,380 --> 04:21:35,780
You recognize?

3140
04:21:36,560 --> 04:21:37,360
I would love to hear.

3141
04:21:37,360 --> 04:21:38,120
What was that?

3142
04:21:40,500 --> 04:21:42,040
Please come in.

3143
04:21:44,440 --> 04:21:47,860
There has been a study done for the storm order piece at that time.

3144
04:21:48,060 --> 04:21:53,540
The piece where it implemented a study was completed and think it was for five year term.

3145
04:21:53,880 --> 04:21:56,980
We are year number three into that five year.

3146
04:21:57,800 --> 04:22:06,280
So in order to maintain or receive the grants because I'm going to say we've been asking about grants.

3147
04:22:06,280 --> 04:22:12,000
Finally, we're seeing 11 million dollars, right? We're of grants.

3148
04:22:13,260 --> 04:22:17,260
And so based on your study, because I'm not sure if the commission really understands

3149
04:22:17,260 --> 04:22:26,240
or based on your study, we need this assessment tonight, or we lose 11 million dollars of grant money.

3150
04:22:26,380 --> 04:22:32,780
Potentially, because if I think it's a potentially, or we will lose, please, because we have to explain that.

3151
04:22:34,440 --> 04:22:38,460
If the project is not complete, you can collect on the grant.

3152
04:22:38,560 --> 04:22:41,760
We're going to lose 11 million dollars worth of grants.

3153
04:22:41,940 --> 04:22:44,000
And we've been talking about grants all day.

3154
04:22:44,720 --> 04:22:47,800
And we have grant money that there's on the table.

3155
04:22:48,240 --> 04:22:51,320
And if we can't imagine we're going to lose, correct?

3156
04:22:51,780 --> 04:22:51,840
Correct.

3157
04:22:51,860 --> 04:22:52,740
Thank you.

3158
04:22:52,820 --> 04:22:53,820
Thank you very much.

3159
04:22:55,040 --> 04:22:56,100
This is what we're...

3160
04:22:56,100 --> 04:22:58,840
But for the record, if the project is not completed,

3161
04:22:59,340 --> 04:23:00,940
we're not even not completed yet.

3162
04:23:00,960 --> 04:23:02,180
We haven't started yet.

3163
04:23:02,180 --> 04:23:11,420
or my, I give you my time or my, my concern is if we do not pass this, if we maintain

3164
04:23:11,420 --> 04:23:16,760
access in the same way, now we're talking about, if the project is not completed, the project

3165
04:23:16,760 --> 04:23:21,420
even started yet is that's, you know, that's all I'm looking for. So we have five votes here.

3166
04:23:21,560 --> 04:23:32,160
We have five votes. It's been moved to maintain it or approve of the way it is. So it's been

3167
04:23:32,160 --> 04:23:36,960
It was moved to maintain it the way it is, right?

3168
04:23:37,520 --> 04:23:42,400
To maintain it to keep this weight is, and see it to find other ways to figure out.

3169
04:23:42,540 --> 04:23:44,380
It's an amendment to maintain it.

3170
04:23:44,400 --> 04:23:47,360
A amendment yes, it's an amendment to exist in rate.

3171
04:23:50,550 --> 04:23:51,150
Commissioner Martin?

3172
04:23:51,790 --> 04:23:51,990
No.

3173
04:23:52,730 --> 04:23:54,070
Commissioner Louis Ricketts.

3174
04:24:00,600 --> 04:24:02,200
We're saying that to the chair.

3175
04:24:03,140 --> 04:24:03,520
You're right.

3176
04:24:03,820 --> 04:24:03,840
Okay.

3177
04:24:04,000 --> 04:24:04,420
Thank you.

3178
04:24:05,340 --> 04:24:06,340
Michael Paul.

3179
04:24:07,000 --> 04:24:07,620
Oh, so far.

3180
04:24:07,620 --> 04:24:18,380
If we do not increase the in here, if we do not, if we do not, if we do not, if we do not,

3181
04:24:18,380 --> 04:24:19,360
increase the rate.

3182
04:24:19,820 --> 04:24:29,040
Accept this six to dollar increase, however it is, then we are going to fall very short of being able to do this.

3183
04:24:30,760 --> 04:24:37,200
And the, and the volatility is that we do not accept this increase.

3184
04:24:37,840 --> 04:24:44,740
The vote is to keep the assessment the way it is, I made a amendment to keep it the same

3185
04:24:44,740 --> 04:24:49,720
we do not raise it and there is another amendment, correct?

3186
04:24:50,020 --> 04:24:50,900
No, there is no other amendment.

3187
04:24:51,340 --> 04:24:52,380
There is no other amendment.

3188
04:24:54,180 --> 04:24:59,960
There is no other amendment.

3189
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:08,060
As the public director said, we're looking to apply for other grants. We haven't gotten any grants yet.

3190
04:25:09,180 --> 04:25:17,620
But the federal department of emergency management came out about two weeks ago with a grant, about a billion dollars.

3191
04:25:18,400 --> 04:25:23,680
And half of it is for resiliency. The other half of it is for evacuation routes.

3192
04:25:23,680 --> 04:25:32,000
We have a grant writer that helped us write the grants that got the Solar Lakes Drainage Improvement Grant and the Tamoshaner Grant.

3193
04:25:32,920 --> 04:25:44,220
They met with our federal lobbyists, so public works, finance, met with our federal lobbyists as well as as well as the grant writer.

3194
04:25:44,220 --> 04:25:46,040
And we ask those questions.

3195
04:25:46,340 --> 04:25:53,680
Can we apply for one or both of those grants as additional funding to help offset these grants?

3196
04:25:54,440 --> 04:25:55,520
We don't know the answer yet.

3197
04:25:55,560 --> 04:25:57,300
It's something that they're exploring.

3198
04:25:57,900 --> 04:25:59,840
If we can, we'll apply for it.

3199
04:25:59,840 --> 04:26:02,200
And then we'll hope that we get that grant.

3200
04:26:02,580 --> 04:26:05,440
And then that grant money would offset what the...

3201
04:26:05,780 --> 04:26:09,260
Some amount of what the city may need to pay.

3202
04:26:09,460 --> 04:26:11,220
Whether it's 100%, whether it's 50%.

3203
04:26:11,220 --> 04:26:14,360
and it all depends what we get from the federal government.

3204
04:26:15,080 --> 04:26:15,460
No, Mike.

3205
04:26:16,160 --> 04:26:25,200
Just for clarification, if we decide to leave the assessment as it previously was before this increase,

3206
04:26:26,760 --> 04:26:32,690
we are still going to move ahead with civilics with it.

3207
04:26:32,790 --> 04:26:33,070
Correct?

3208
04:26:33,690 --> 04:26:36,410
The commission would have to give us direction not to.

3209
04:26:36,930 --> 04:26:38,250
But I'm saying we will.

3210
04:26:38,250 --> 04:26:43,730
we will come back to you, right? If there are no other funding options available, then we'll

3211
04:26:43,730 --> 04:26:46,970
want to come back to you. We haven't gotten to that bridge yet.

3212
04:26:47,810 --> 04:26:52,950
Okay. So, okay. So, then we can leave it as it's for now, for now.

3213
04:26:53,670 --> 04:27:02,510
Okay, just for the record, because we got Miss, Miss, how did you say? The Emperor is not correct.

3214
04:27:02,510 --> 04:27:09,490
We're just told based on the commission commission asking the question there, we're going to lose the grant.

3215
04:27:10,990 --> 04:27:18,950
Okay, and we're told potentially then commission wanted to make sure it's not traditionally, yes, so no, she said, yes, we're going to lose it.

3216
04:27:19,090 --> 04:27:21,530
We've got information from City McCurrent me from wrong.

3217
04:27:21,630 --> 04:27:29,890
You can actually see, imagine we say, we haven't got any, I'm writing, we haven't got any or the grant yet.

3218
04:27:30,990 --> 04:27:38,010
So, my question, how can we lose something that we don't have yet and hold on, hold on,

3219
04:27:38,010 --> 04:27:42,730
hold on, hold on, hold on, everything is on the record, I'll make sure it clear, because we

3220
04:27:42,730 --> 04:27:49,150
get confusing information there. The question is raising assessment on the resident because

3221
04:27:49,150 --> 04:27:57,650
of those two, if we're still looking for other revenues to other funding revenues there,

3222
04:27:57,650 --> 04:28:07,550
Let's do that. But the point again all comes around the resident are we're going to increase the tax on them or keep it the same way. That's the issue right now.

3223
04:28:08,090 --> 04:28:14,790
Everything else is not on my responsibility. I'm dealing. I'm voting on what I have right now right now is to

3224
04:28:14,790 --> 04:28:24,230
To increase the assessment that was done. And I admit I said no, I don't want to increase. I want to keep it for now. Under the circumstances this one I was saying is talking about.

3225
04:28:24,230 --> 04:28:34,430
So, now we're discussing different things there, so if we don't have them and this is not the issue, again, this is not the issue.

3226
04:28:34,870 --> 04:28:41,950
The issue is, the issue is we have to increase or not increase.

3227
04:28:42,930 --> 04:28:47,950
And I've ordered a man that we don't know if we don't have the money, why do we bring it here?

3228
04:28:48,530 --> 04:28:50,510
Why are we discussing something we don't have the money?

3229
04:28:51,150 --> 04:28:54,070
That means the project will not start. If we don't have the money.

3230
04:28:56,150 --> 04:29:08,850
Okay, well think, okay, actually, when I'm asking, I'm going to ask that staff do a thorough work done before we presented here to the commission, because we're all in confusion.

3231
04:29:09,550 --> 04:29:14,590
Because we're wasting a lot of time. I'd like to know option one, option two, option three.

3232
04:29:14,590 --> 04:29:23,530
We vote with shoes, A, B, or C, but now we're spending on a time with these should have been done long time ago.

3233
04:29:24,310 --> 04:29:30,330
Even during those budget presentation, these should have been done, whereas resident have the opposite expression itself there.

3234
04:29:30,790 --> 04:29:31,790
And I'm going to say that again.

3235
04:29:32,370 --> 04:29:34,310
Most of us were not present at this.

3236
04:29:34,470 --> 04:29:37,130
And we have workshop, we have agenda review.

3237
04:29:37,370 --> 04:29:39,090
Why don't we discuss the thing right now?

3238
04:29:39,730 --> 04:29:40,630
I'm back to it.

3239
04:29:40,650 --> 04:29:41,550
I'm just one book.

3240
04:29:41,710 --> 04:29:42,490
May I?

3241
04:29:43,610 --> 04:29:44,090
Okay.

3242
04:29:44,090 --> 04:29:49,170
So we do have grant funding already secured for those projects.

3243
04:29:49,350 --> 04:29:56,090
What does it even just saying in order to relieve the assessments, you know,

3244
04:29:56,270 --> 04:29:59,970
or the burden on the fund, we're seeking additional...

3245
04:30:04,720 --> 04:30:14,160
So we do have the funding in place, and we need to increase the assessment to fund the city's portion for that total cost of the two projects.

3246
04:30:14,740 --> 04:30:23,660
So we do have that funding and secure it. We're looking for additional funding to see if we can remove the burden from the cost of the assessment.

3247
04:30:23,660 --> 04:30:28,960
Okay, good. So it's good. Yeah, appreciate. So it goes back to what we discussed right now.

3248
04:30:29,080 --> 04:30:35,040
Are we going to increase it or not increase it? I made it. I say for me, I made a motion there to keep the

3249
04:30:35,040 --> 04:30:41,320
assessment the way it is for now under the circumstances. What we hear what it is. So it's all I've got a vote for

3250
04:30:41,320 --> 04:30:46,280
yes. Oh, it is. On this someone is a man, the my amendment. That's all I'm asking for.

3251
04:30:46,520 --> 04:30:51,000
Yes, our grants. No, we lose our grant. We can't lose something. We don't have.

3252
04:30:51,000 --> 04:30:57,860
We do have, and then another thing, we can start the project if we don't have the complete funding.

3253
04:30:57,940 --> 04:30:58,500
I understand.

3254
04:30:59,080 --> 04:30:59,480
I understand.

3255
04:30:59,620 --> 04:31:06,180
So with the grants, we need the assessments to cover the portion of the grant is not funding.

3256
04:31:06,780 --> 04:31:07,500
But we do have.

3257
04:31:07,680 --> 04:31:07,940
Okay.

3258
04:31:08,380 --> 04:31:09,780
Go back to the same thing here.

3259
04:31:10,240 --> 04:31:12,140
I meant it to keep an assessment.

3260
04:31:12,440 --> 04:31:14,180
We vote on it unless we have another amendment.

3261
04:31:15,600 --> 04:31:16,380
Okay, go ahead.

3262
04:31:16,840 --> 04:31:19,000
Is there an amendment to my amendment?

3263
04:31:19,780 --> 04:31:20,560
No, there was no.

3264
04:31:20,560 --> 04:31:22,980
If it's not okay, we're going to vote on this one here.

3265
04:31:23,040 --> 04:31:23,520
The vote is in.

3266
04:31:23,740 --> 04:31:24,880
We meet somewhere in the middle.

3267
04:31:25,240 --> 04:31:27,660
Where could we go to that middle ground to cover?

3268
04:31:28,300 --> 04:31:29,260
I will win the middle of the vote.

3269
04:31:29,980 --> 04:31:31,520
We're in the middle of the vote.

3270
04:31:32,280 --> 04:31:33,940
We're going to vote.

3271
04:31:34,180 --> 04:31:35,380
We started counting votes.

3272
04:31:35,540 --> 04:31:37,760
Two people voted so far.

3273
04:31:38,220 --> 04:31:39,540
Commissioner Martin voted now.

3274
04:31:39,700 --> 04:31:41,140
Commissioner Lewis or Goods voted.

3275
04:31:44,710 --> 04:31:44,750
Yes.

3276
04:31:45,030 --> 04:31:46,270
Vice Mayor Booster Monte.

3277
04:31:47,630 --> 04:31:48,450
Commissioner Lewis.

3278
04:31:48,990 --> 04:31:50,370
No, I like to see someone in the middle.

3279
04:31:51,290 --> 04:31:51,870
And Mayor Board.

3280
04:31:51,870 --> 04:32:02,690
Yes. That's the three two of all. All right, this concludes this meeting and not meeting the

3281
04:32:03,730 --> 04:32:11,170
boarding action there. And thank you everyone. So we will not proceed to item 5C

3282
04:32:11,170 --> 04:32:15,570
imager of any comments please. Mr. Mayor, I have no budget comments for you.

3283
04:32:15,570 --> 04:32:22,350
I'd like to comment. Thank you. Now, commission, we will not proceed to your comments. Any?

3284
04:32:22,590 --> 04:32:26,690
Well, let's start with commissioner district A, please. Any comments?

3285
04:32:28,510 --> 04:32:32,970
I just want some clarification after this meeting on a few things.

3286
04:32:33,330 --> 04:32:36,210
I could sit with Mike, just make sure everything is good.

3287
04:32:36,410 --> 04:32:39,830
Thank you everyone for coming out again. District A, I appreciate you guys.

3288
04:32:40,190 --> 04:32:41,710
We definitely have a conflict commissioner.

3289
04:32:42,590 --> 04:32:50,010
We'll soon, probably within the next few weeks, so we'll discuss a few things just coming up and I'll appreciate everyone coming out.

3290
04:32:50,150 --> 04:32:51,150
Thank you.

3291
04:32:51,530 --> 04:32:52,430
District B, please.

3292
04:32:54,930 --> 04:32:55,510
Vice Mayor.

3293
04:33:01,240 --> 04:33:05,120
Just thank everybody to come to this meeting and, God bless everyone.

3294
04:33:05,400 --> 04:33:05,880
Thank you.

3295
04:33:06,160 --> 04:33:07,320
District C, please.

3296
04:33:08,060 --> 04:33:09,700
District C, this is your commission.

3297
04:33:09,900 --> 04:33:17,580
Remember every second Tuesday, we are feeding our community at Highland Park.

3298
04:33:17,580 --> 04:33:19,460
Thank you guys so much for your support.

3299
04:33:20,320 --> 04:33:23,680
And thank you for your concern about tonight's budget meeting.

3300
04:33:23,800 --> 04:33:25,320
I thank you for coming out as well.

3301
04:33:25,780 --> 04:33:31,320
And just reiterate that we did lose 11 million in grant money.

3302
04:33:31,320 --> 04:33:32,960
And I'll explain a little bit more

3303
04:33:32,960 --> 04:33:34,780
that on my personal social media.

3304
04:33:35,720 --> 04:33:39,720
And those of you that are with the information

3305
04:33:39,720 --> 04:33:46,400
that is being spread on the North Lauderdale neighborhood page,

3306
04:33:46,400 --> 04:33:56,820
please contact your district commissioner look on the city's page of a more accurate information

3307
04:33:56,820 --> 04:34:00,840
because we don't want to be spreading wrong information and again, thank you so much.

3308
04:34:01,080 --> 04:34:04,740
This is your commissioner, Regina Martin, District C.

3309
04:34:09,720 --> 04:34:15,740
Hello, this is Commissioner Delo is Rick is one. We'd like to see you tomorrow when

3310
04:34:15,740 --> 04:34:21,060
that, I mean, this is coming Wednesday. For tea time, a champion hall, 10, 30, 12.

3311
04:34:21,560 --> 04:34:28,240
We look forward to seeing you there. On the Thursday, we would like you to come out to

3312
04:34:28,240 --> 04:34:33,420
10th Street at the Community Center, because we have them

3313
04:34:33,420 --> 04:34:43,120
Broward Mobile Health Bus, and it's free for all, 18 years and over, full assessment, HIV testing,

3314
04:34:43,500 --> 04:34:49,360
blood work, blood pressure coming, get yourself checked up, and three were still awaiting

3315
04:34:49,360 --> 04:34:55,680
information from the Mobile Tribes Licent Center, so we'll know what time they'll be

3316
04:34:55,680 --> 04:34:59,660
and the 14th of October you can call and have your driver's license.

3317
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:05,460
Thank you so much, and thanks to all the city staff that worked hard on the budget.

3318
04:35:05,960 --> 04:35:06,600
Good night, everyone.

3319
04:35:07,200 --> 04:35:15,040
Okay, thank you. Tonight was about conducting the discussion openly and just allow a reason to hear the same

3320
04:35:15,040 --> 04:35:21,520
information that you're elected officials heard before this season. That's why we had moved it

3321
04:35:21,520 --> 04:35:26,640
to the five o'clock PM instead of having two different things there.

3322
04:35:26,680 --> 04:35:28,040
I know it's good to take some time.

3323
04:35:28,920 --> 04:35:34,480
And then I responsible just to listen and ask question.

3324
04:35:34,660 --> 04:35:37,740
Protect essential services that the resident need.

3325
04:35:38,100 --> 04:35:42,880
And remember that every dollar, not just some dollar or every dollar

3326
04:35:42,880 --> 04:35:45,940
that we spent, ultimately, will come from the people.

3327
04:35:48,760 --> 04:35:50,500
And this is democracy.

3328
04:35:50,500 --> 04:35:52,380
And we have to think about it in a way.

3329
04:35:52,600 --> 04:35:55,380
But thank you very much for everybody for being here.

3330
04:35:55,400 --> 04:35:56,440
Thank you, Commission.

3331
04:35:57,900 --> 04:36:01,680
And the only things I'm going to ask to see the manager

3332
04:36:01,680 --> 04:36:04,080
I think we mentioned that I'm returning from the resident.

3333
04:36:04,240 --> 04:36:06,880
We need some information from that.

3334
04:36:07,320 --> 04:36:12,280
On one of my conversations with the last week with,

3335
04:36:12,320 --> 04:36:14,600
let me say it, it's still a assistant city manager.

3336
04:36:14,920 --> 04:36:16,320
We didn't discuss that.

3337
04:36:16,900 --> 04:36:20,080
The VAC truck usage, there's some requests

3338
04:36:20,080 --> 04:36:26,360
and the community that we have purchased that item there and residents have not seen it

3339
04:36:26,360 --> 04:36:33,890
in the street and based on some of them first we discussed I disagree with that because if we're

3340
04:36:34,120 --> 04:36:40,990
using it only when it's when there's water what's the purpose we could list one or red one.

3341
04:36:41,480 --> 04:36:50,060
I think the job for that I may be wrong but when we requested for a back truck it was to

3342
04:36:50,060 --> 04:36:59,900
clean up all the how to call the drainage to prevent for prevention to make sure we don't have flood issues.

3343
04:37:01,180 --> 04:37:06,660
So resident will correct the resident and we asked that was correct and asking where is the backdrop.

3344
04:37:07,920 --> 04:37:09,700
And some cities have two.

3345
04:37:10,020 --> 04:37:15,500
And if we're waiting for afters is flooded, what's the use of that?

3346
04:37:15,500 --> 04:37:21,840
So we'd like to get the report, what do we do, what are we doing with the backdrop at this point?

3347
04:37:26,540 --> 04:37:29,920
My follow up report on the 29th.

3348
04:37:31,100 --> 04:37:33,060
That will be on, that's one of the items the follow up.

3349
04:37:33,160 --> 04:37:38,300
Okay, okay, so let me ask you a purpose of buying as is to do what?

3350
04:37:39,520 --> 04:37:44,580
To use five days a week, eight hours a day, so it should be used.

3351
04:37:44,580 --> 04:37:54,200
And so we'll work with public works, we'll put the report together, and we'll come up with the schedule and how we can make it all so more visible when it's out on the road.

3352
04:37:54,400 --> 04:37:56,580
And how long we have it? We just have it.

3353
04:37:58,000 --> 04:38:01,980
We had this one, what about how long we have this one?

3354
04:38:02,560 --> 04:38:03,320
About a year.

3355
04:38:03,620 --> 04:38:04,060
About a year.

3356
04:38:04,540 --> 04:38:06,640
We have another one as well.

3357
04:38:06,640 --> 04:38:14,260
Right, but we have to one does so or one does a trade right, but but I just want to be clear because we're saying we

3358
04:38:14,260 --> 04:38:20,200
Resonacy they haven't seen it day or night. I would buy things if you sit there and sit there and that's money

3359
04:38:21,580 --> 04:38:22,500
And then

3360
04:38:22,500 --> 04:38:29,520
Right now is raining a lot and in different places there were then I expect them to see what event where there's

3361
04:38:29,520 --> 04:38:37,720
And we see it after hours, but that's not the point, we're doing there, make sure preventing

3362
04:38:37,720 --> 04:38:39,160
that removing those clear.

3363
04:38:39,200 --> 04:38:44,580
Those are the things, because at that time we bought it for as an urgent situation, emergency,

3364
04:38:45,500 --> 04:38:47,120
and it's been a year, it's not been used.

3365
04:38:48,300 --> 04:38:48,500
All right.

3366
04:38:48,960 --> 04:38:50,080
We will get you a detailed report.

3367
04:38:50,300 --> 04:38:50,700
Okay.

3368
04:38:51,020 --> 04:38:51,840
Thank you.

3369
04:38:52,540 --> 04:38:58,840
And if there's no, well, based on my agenda.

3370
04:39:01,010 --> 04:39:03,030
You have a quick water control district.

3371
04:39:03,190 --> 04:39:03,430
Right.

3372
04:39:03,810 --> 04:39:04,030
Okay.

3373
04:39:04,190 --> 04:39:05,410
The city clerk has no comments.

3374
04:39:05,770 --> 04:39:07,010
I see attorney's no comment.

3375
04:39:07,690 --> 04:39:10,230
I'd like to get a motion to adjourn this meeting, please.

3376
04:39:10,690 --> 04:39:11,770
Motion to adjourn.

3377
04:39:12,130 --> 04:39:12,510
Okay.

3378
04:39:12,890 --> 04:39:13,630
Meeting as adjourn.

3379
04:39:13,690 --> 04:39:14,170
Thank you.

3380
04:39:14,250 --> 04:39:17,650
Immediately after that one there, we will

3381
04:39:17,650 --> 04:39:21,030
convene to water control district is short meeting there.

3382
04:39:21,190 --> 04:39:23,110
I'm going to pass it to.

3383
04:39:23,690 --> 04:39:23,910
I didn't.

3384
04:39:24,070 --> 04:39:24,350
I didn't.

3385
04:39:24,350 --> 04:39:24,870
I didn't.

3386
04:39:25,030 --> 04:39:25,190
I didn't.

3387
04:39:25,390 --> 04:39:26,170
I didn't.

3388
04:39:29,050 --> 04:39:30,710
I'm not in charge of it.

3389
04:39:30,970 --> 04:39:32,790
No, it's commissioner of those words.

3390
04:39:34,170 --> 04:39:37,670
And commissioner Martin is the vice president.

3391
04:39:37,910 --> 04:39:37,970
No.

3392
04:39:38,130 --> 04:39:39,670
We voted on that at the last.

3393
04:39:42,810 --> 04:39:44,190
Chair. Chair.

3394
04:39:46,170 --> 04:39:47,530
Do you have an agenda?

3395
04:39:49,510 --> 04:39:50,090
You know what?

3396
04:39:51,330 --> 04:39:51,610
Yeah.

3397
04:39:51,610 --> 04:39:53,230
I can get it all right.

3398
04:39:53,530 --> 04:39:54,430
I can get it all right.

3399
04:39:54,530 --> 04:39:55,490
I can get it all right.

3400
04:39:55,690 --> 04:39:56,870
We have another meeting.

3401
04:39:57,010 --> 04:39:57,710
So we don't worry.

3402
04:40:24,750 --> 04:40:27,130
We're going to call this meeting order.

3403
04:40:35,350 --> 04:40:40,990
All right, we'll call this mean order, order and commissioner chamber.

3404
04:40:41,490 --> 04:40:43,510
You call it roll call for us, please.

3405
04:40:43,990 --> 04:40:45,990
Chair Lewis Brickett's chair.

3406
04:40:46,270 --> 04:40:47,250
Vice chair Martin.

3407
04:40:49,630 --> 04:40:51,190
Supervisor. Excuse me.

3408
04:40:51,350 --> 04:40:52,110
Supervisor board.

3409
04:40:55,270 --> 04:40:56,270
Supervisor board.

3410
04:40:59,530 --> 04:41:03,470
I'm here. I'm sorry. I'm here. I'm here. Okay, sir.

3411
04:41:03,610 --> 04:41:06,970
Five, sir, boost the Monday and supervisor.

3412
04:41:07,870 --> 04:41:09,150
Supervisor, boost the Monday.

3413
04:41:09,790 --> 04:41:11,530
Sit here. Yes.

3414
04:41:12,950 --> 04:41:13,950
Supervisor, Lewis.

3415
04:41:14,430 --> 04:41:14,950
Yeah, definitely.

3416
04:41:15,510 --> 04:41:16,810
Administrator Buckrich.

3417
04:41:17,710 --> 04:41:19,290
District Attorney Pam.

3418
04:41:19,570 --> 04:41:20,170
Pamis.

3419
04:41:20,410 --> 04:41:20,510
Yeah.

3420
04:41:20,690 --> 04:41:21,970
And I am district secretary,

3421
04:41:21,970 --> 04:41:27,630
salary, there's no approval minutes tonight so we'll go into other business.

3422
04:41:28,210 --> 04:41:31,230
Yes, to go agreed item.

3423
04:41:34,330 --> 04:41:39,810
As a motion at the North Florida deal water control district.

3424
04:41:41,820 --> 04:41:46,840
Relating to the provision of water control and drainage services facilities and programs,

3425
04:41:47,540 --> 04:41:51,860
the water management system within the geographical boundaries of the district

3426
04:41:51,860 --> 04:41:55,920
is establishing the assessment rate of $200 for water management system

3427
04:41:55,920 --> 04:42:02,100
assistance for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2026, approving, confirming and adopting

3428
04:42:02,100 --> 04:42:08,540
the assessment role, approving the amended district budget for fiscal year 2026 to 2027

3429
04:42:08,540 --> 04:42:14,160
to be adopted as part of the city's budget by the city commission, providing for conflict,

3430
04:42:14,400 --> 04:42:17,160
providing for several ability and providing for an effective date.

3431
04:42:22,700 --> 04:42:23,340
Good

3432
04:42:27,280 --> 04:42:27,920
night.

3433
04:42:28,100 --> 04:42:28,280
Good night.

3434
04:42:28,360 --> 04:42:30,520
I'm going to introduce the budget manager to the

3435
04:42:30,520 --> 04:42:31,080
Business presentation.

3436
04:42:31,800 --> 04:42:31,800
Thank

3437
04:42:58,230 --> 04:42:59,770
you.

3438
04:43:08,250 --> 04:43:09,530
Good evening.

3439
04:43:10,010 --> 04:43:10,090
Good evening.

3440
04:43:10,090 --> 04:43:12,050
My name is Sharon Stewart, the budget manager.

3441
04:43:12,270 --> 04:43:15,070
I'm here to present the water control district.

3442
04:43:15,430 --> 04:43:18,090
Proposed budget for fiscal year 2027.

3443
04:43:18,090 --> 04:43:28,410
So, the budget is $2,560,320, and what we have proposed in the budget in order to balance

3444
04:43:28,410 --> 04:43:39,230
it is to increase the assessment to $200 per unit, which would generate $2,253,608.

3445
04:43:39,230 --> 04:43:47,550
We have identified other revenues in the amount of $36,712, so to balance the budget without

3446
04:43:47,550 --> 04:43:56,670
use an any fund balance. We are recommending the $200 per unit assessments. So it would bring

3447
04:43:56,670 --> 04:44:05,510
the total revenues to $2,563,20 without using any fund balance. So this is one of the funds

3448
04:44:05,510 --> 04:44:12,510
tonight that is considered structurally balanced because we are not using any revenues from our

3449
04:44:12,510 --> 04:44:17,990
Fund balance to budget it so if it's past that's what it would be a structurally balanced budget

3450
04:44:18,950 --> 04:44:24,610
In regards to the water control, what's really pressure in is that we have an equipment

3451
04:44:25,630 --> 04:44:31,170
That's being requested $125,000 for the we do in addition

3452
04:44:31,170 --> 04:44:37,490
We have the canal maintenance and also a grant match for that

3453
04:44:37,490 --> 04:44:44,010
canel stabilization project which is a million dollars so the canal maintenance is a million

3454
04:44:44,010 --> 04:44:50,070
the stabilization matches a million dollars along with the equipment so those are the items

3455
04:44:50,070 --> 04:44:55,330
that's really driving the budget and that's what we refer to as the budgetary pressures in this

3456
04:44:55,330 --> 04:44:59,390
fund and that presents the budget for.

3457
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:02,080
The water control district.

3458
04:45:03,580 --> 04:45:10,300
It's open for public comment. No public comment. We offer motion.

3459
04:45:13,010 --> 04:45:14,270
Motion to approve?

3460
04:45:14,750 --> 04:45:15,210
Second.

3461
04:45:16,550 --> 04:45:18,630
There was some any comments on this?

3462
04:45:22,280 --> 04:45:23,140
Yes, yes.

3463
04:45:23,620 --> 04:45:24,000
You recognize?

3464
04:45:26,640 --> 04:45:28,880
Can you please clarify this?

3465
04:45:29,620 --> 04:45:31,280
A $200 per unit.

3466
04:45:32,120 --> 04:45:36,620
The difference between this and the one which is the previous meeting there.

3467
04:45:36,620 --> 04:45:39,440
If you can explain that for the resident, please.

3468
04:45:39,720 --> 04:45:46,660
The, um, the current versus the proposed 200, okay, bear with me a moment.

3469
04:45:56,440 --> 04:46:02,480
And also clarify what is a unit too, but a unit could be an apartment building or a house.

3470
04:46:03,040 --> 04:46:05,740
You know, just clarify that.

3471
04:46:06,720 --> 04:46:08,060
Makes sense, clarify that.

3472
04:46:09,240 --> 04:46:10,220
All right.

3473
04:46:10,220 --> 04:46:18,660
So in regards to what the difference would be, so the current rate is that was adopted in

3474
04:46:18,660 --> 04:46:22,460
2026 is $95 per unit.

3475
04:46:23,980 --> 04:46:37,120
So if we were to maintain that, we have a tax base of about 11,674 units at that $95 per unit.

3476
04:46:37,120 --> 04:46:47,660
We would generate approximately just under a million dollars and then would have the additional other revenue sources that I mentioned of the 306.

3477
04:46:48,700 --> 04:47:04,360
So in addition to not using any fund balance in order to balance this, we would need about 1.1 million dollars in the reserves from the reserve funding in order to be able to balance this budget.

3478
04:47:04,360 --> 04:47:07,500
if that $200 is not approved.

3479
04:47:14,180 --> 04:47:16,120
We're back to the same place.

3480
04:47:16,720 --> 04:47:19,520
Our discussion earlier, there's different meetings,

3481
04:47:27,160 --> 04:47:28,380
but other alternatives.

3482
04:47:31,810 --> 04:47:35,370
The alternative is that we actually have that grant match,

3483
04:47:36,370 --> 04:47:37,830
which we need to fund.

3484
04:47:38,150 --> 04:47:39,690
So that's already a million dollars.

3485
04:47:39,990 --> 04:47:42,290
That's off the top that we'd actually need to fund.

3486
04:47:42,890 --> 04:47:45,610
And then the maintenance itself is projected

3487
04:47:45,610 --> 04:47:47,550
to cost us a million dollars.

3488
04:47:48,490 --> 04:47:58,210
So, primarily those are the two expenditures that are drive in this budget and those are the ones that we really need to find here.

3489
04:47:58,590 --> 04:48:09,010
So, if we were to not approve the assessment then we're looking at digging into the reserves in order to be able to offset those because we do have to match.

3490
04:48:09,070 --> 04:48:16,950
We do have to show that we have the match grant in order to be able to accept it and we have to budget that if we do.

3491
04:48:18,170 --> 04:48:18,850
So,

3492
04:48:21,010 --> 04:48:22,750
it goes from 95 to 200.

3493
04:48:23,070 --> 04:48:25,730
95 to 200 is the proposed, yes.

3494
04:48:29,690 --> 04:48:31,890
And, and not everyone leaves in the canal.

3495
04:48:32,790 --> 04:48:34,730
Everyone pays that in the city.

3496
04:48:36,230 --> 04:48:39,570
Everyone pays yes, from that tax base, that's generated.

3497
04:48:40,430 --> 04:48:44,890
I'm not so sure if, if the same reason that we're here earlier would understand that.

3498
04:48:45,470 --> 04:48:49,550
I don't know if they understand it, they may not even know about it.

3499
04:48:50,250 --> 04:48:55,250
They may not know about it, but it's actually represented in their trim notice that they

3500
04:48:55,250 --> 04:48:59,850
do see that there is this expenditure that's proposed in the trim notice.

3501
04:49:00,010 --> 04:49:05,230
So they are notified every year annually through their trim notice and also when they pay

3502
04:49:05,230 --> 04:49:08,690
their tax bills they're seeing exactly what they're paying.

3503
04:49:10,870 --> 04:49:20,810
During our presentation, during our time and whole meetings, we did two budgets, was it mentioned

3504
04:49:20,810 --> 04:49:22,270
at all to the resident?

3505
04:49:23,330 --> 04:49:24,210
At the water control?

3506
04:49:24,510 --> 04:49:24,610
Yes.

3507
04:49:24,610 --> 04:49:25,050
I'm sorry.

3508
04:49:25,390 --> 04:49:25,830
Did you imagine?

3509
04:49:26,970 --> 04:49:27,070
Yes.

3510
04:49:27,450 --> 04:49:28,090
There were.

3511
04:49:30,670 --> 04:49:30,870
Okay.

3512
04:49:31,230 --> 04:49:35,410
So I know people know about the 200 earlier, but I don't think they don't understand at this

3513
04:49:35,410 --> 04:49:35,630
point.

3514
04:49:35,910 --> 04:49:36,250
If they did.

3515
04:49:36,510 --> 04:49:36,970
I don't know.

3516
04:49:36,970 --> 04:49:44,320
We do the answer because we've got some questions about the signalization of that, that's part of that topic.

3517
04:49:44,980 --> 04:49:48,740
Okay. All right.

3518
04:50:02,450 --> 04:50:07,590
Are you ready to go?

3519
04:50:07,590 --> 04:50:08,430
Are you ready to go?

3520
04:50:09,410 --> 04:50:09,510
Are you ready to go?

3521
04:50:09,610 --> 04:50:10,690
Are you ready to go?

3522
04:50:10,750 --> 04:50:19,670
So this 105 dollars is going to create a million, six hundred thousand dollars.

3523
04:50:20,070 --> 04:50:21,950
Over that.

3524
04:50:22,350 --> 04:50:23,610
It's a 200.

3525
04:50:24,170 --> 04:50:25,750
So we're looking at it.

3526
04:50:25,810 --> 04:50:27,690
It's from 95 to 200.

3527
04:50:27,690 --> 04:50:36,930
If you're going to go with 105 on each property, that's over a million six hundred.

3528
04:50:36,930 --> 04:50:38,550
Is that each property or each unit?

3529
04:50:39,170 --> 04:50:40,250
Is that each unit?

3530
04:50:40,630 --> 04:50:47,630
No, that's, I got a 15,000 and over 15,600 homes.

3531
04:50:48,530 --> 04:50:54,970
So it's the tax base of the 11 properties in terms of 11,000,000.

3532
04:50:54,970 --> 04:50:58,090
the four units that we can assess in the

3533
04:50:58,090 --> 04:51:00,410
or what in the city of America.

3534
04:51:01,350 --> 04:51:02,610
So, is it 11,000 units?

3535
04:51:02,610 --> 04:51:07,610
11,000, 674 units that we can assess times to 200.

3536
04:51:10,340 --> 04:51:14,880
But you're counting with all the apartments?

3537
04:51:15,680 --> 04:51:22,600
No, these are the units, yes, that's included, exactly.

3538
04:51:22,600 --> 04:51:27,780
All right, I got a different number to the chair.

3539
04:51:28,040 --> 04:51:28,560
Yeah, you recognize?

3540
04:51:30,220 --> 04:51:34,520
The units, we have three units and four units and single family units.

3541
04:51:34,940 --> 04:51:39,560
So the person that has a triplex, a triplex, pays the same 200?

3542
04:51:41,980 --> 04:51:44,720
For the all three, our 200 per unit.

3543
04:51:44,760 --> 04:51:46,380
Per unit, ABC.

3544
04:51:46,860 --> 04:51:50,580
The way that it works, it would be per folio, right?

3545
04:51:50,580 --> 04:51:53,580
So that's what it would be, essentially.

3546
04:51:55,460 --> 04:51:56,540
Seriously, I mean, sure.

3547
04:51:57,540 --> 04:52:01,420
Okay, so yes, they would, they would pay the same.

3548
04:52:01,780 --> 04:52:03,640
So if it's three, it's just a unit.

3549
04:52:03,720 --> 04:52:05,380
Whatever it's considered unit,

3550
04:52:05,840 --> 04:52:08,600
so they would pay the same as the other person as well.

3551
04:52:08,800 --> 04:52:11,320
So it's not looking at it separately

3552
04:52:11,320 --> 04:52:14,240
as what you're thinking, but it's per unit.

3553
04:52:14,640 --> 04:52:16,600
And that's how the numbers are driven.

3554
04:52:16,600 --> 04:52:18,720
So the flicks two.

3555
04:52:18,900 --> 04:52:19,600
The flicks industry?

3556
04:52:19,960 --> 04:52:20,280
Yeah.

3557
04:52:20,760 --> 04:52:22,940
So we'll be our sole, our sole.

3558
04:52:23,480 --> 04:52:24,520
One house, babysitter.

3559
04:52:24,800 --> 04:52:25,920
We'll be the first structure.

3560
04:52:26,480 --> 04:52:26,600
Yes.

3561
04:52:26,840 --> 04:52:27,560
A structure?

3562
04:52:28,260 --> 04:52:29,620
It's an upper floor.

3563
04:52:29,760 --> 04:52:30,460
The first sole, yeah.

3564
04:52:33,920 --> 04:52:35,460
So we'll go five to get one.

3565
04:52:35,720 --> 04:52:37,540
They turn it all with you and try to.

3566
04:52:37,860 --> 04:52:38,300
Correct.

3567
04:52:40,380 --> 04:52:41,240
That's 200.

3568
04:52:42,320 --> 04:52:42,400
200.

3569
04:52:42,940 --> 04:52:43,580
Just 200.

3570
04:52:43,800 --> 04:52:44,000
Okay.

3571
04:52:44,460 --> 04:52:48,360
So each structure will be, each house will be.

3572
04:52:48,360 --> 04:52:51,780
whether it's a triplex, duplex or a triplex?

3573
04:52:52,360 --> 04:52:54,100
Um, to a chair?

3574
04:52:54,380 --> 04:52:54,700
You're welcome.

3575
04:52:56,620 --> 04:52:57,380
Who's the chair?

3576
04:52:57,540 --> 04:52:58,660
I thought it was.

3577
04:52:58,700 --> 04:52:59,500
On the acting.

3578
04:52:59,600 --> 04:53:00,400
No, I'm not the chair.

3579
04:53:00,620 --> 04:53:02,100
No, he, he's just not three.

3580
04:53:02,460 --> 04:53:02,840
He's excited.

3581
04:53:03,620 --> 04:53:09,060
Actually, the real chair is, is the chair the Louisville?

3582
04:53:09,560 --> 04:53:12,200
Yeah, she decided that someone was a cover for her.

3583
04:53:12,300 --> 04:53:13,460
Why not the vice chair?

3584
04:53:13,580 --> 04:53:14,060
Oh, yeah.

3585
04:53:14,700 --> 04:53:14,880
True.

3586
04:53:15,600 --> 04:53:16,880
I got to give up my galvan.

3587
04:53:22,500 --> 04:53:29,600
My question, is there any reason why we just jumped from 95 to 200?

3588
04:53:30,900 --> 04:53:31,040
Okay.

3589
04:53:31,180 --> 04:53:36,600
And like I said, many reason asking, why is it we don't have anything gradual or in between?

3590
04:53:36,740 --> 04:53:42,000
Why do we go from step one to all the way in the scale 10 to 100?

3591
04:53:42,020 --> 04:53:43,820
The same reason we're talking about that.

3592
04:53:43,820 --> 04:53:44,960
to the chair.

3593
04:53:47,140 --> 04:53:55,700
So the reason why we actually looked at 200 because as mentioned, we were looking for a structurally balanced budget here.

3594
04:53:56,020 --> 04:54:02,080
We're not using any of our reserves to fund the operations within the water control district.

3595
04:54:02,620 --> 04:54:09,900
So the 200 would give us that revenue so that we could just not have to use any reserves at all.

3596
04:54:09,900 --> 04:54:15,880
So that was the premise of the $200 assessment versus any other.

3597
04:54:16,080 --> 04:54:19,760
But I could identify some other ones if you'd like to hear,

3598
04:54:20,020 --> 04:54:23,380
but that was the premise behind the $200 one

3599
04:54:23,380 --> 04:54:26,860
is so that we could preserve the reserves that we have in this fund.

3600
04:54:27,860 --> 04:54:34,230
So this would preserve the reserve and what

3601
04:54:34,230 --> 04:54:39,210
any of the funds we're going into the reserve to rebuild the reserve are nothing

3602
04:54:39,210 --> 04:54:40,990
we're going to be zeroed out.

3603
04:54:40,990 --> 04:54:47,170
it would it would because we would not rely on any fund balance at all and then that would stay

3604
04:54:47,170 --> 04:54:52,250
there to be able to fund and and build the reserves that's what you're talking about throughout

3605
04:54:52,250 --> 04:54:57,330
the years. So the reserve that it would build is a water reserve for the water control district

3606
04:54:57,330 --> 04:54:58,550
Not reserved.

3607
04:54:59,090 --> 04:54:59,970
our...

3608
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:06,800
No, because this revenue is just to support the operations related to the water control district.

3609
04:55:06,980 --> 04:55:12,580
It cannot be used for any other funding source at all, just the water control.

3610
04:55:13,720 --> 04:55:14,900
All right. Thank you.

3611
04:55:14,980 --> 04:55:17,980
To the chair again, if I can. Okay, and one of the is.

3612
04:55:18,820 --> 04:55:22,120
To the chair. We just recognize, thank you.

3613
04:55:22,120 --> 04:55:30,640
The question is, are the residents from Broadview exempted or did you pay that to?

3614
04:55:31,840 --> 04:55:32,800
Yeah, they do.

3615
04:55:33,660 --> 04:55:36,240
That's where you said Broadview is upon you.

3616
04:55:36,240 --> 04:55:37,340
Everybody pays that.

3617
04:55:37,520 --> 04:55:37,900
Right.

3618
04:55:40,900 --> 04:55:48,800
So the only options, as you mentioned, is to not to use the reserve, but charge the resident.

3619
04:55:48,800 --> 04:55:51,880
Well, there are more than one options,

3620
04:55:52,100 --> 04:55:53,680
it's basically what the, um,

3621
04:55:54,040 --> 04:55:56,960
was decided here tonight and what's voted on.

3622
04:55:57,500 --> 04:55:59,820
Um, you could not use your reserves, right?

3623
04:56:00,460 --> 04:56:03,180
Um, or you could propose maybe another,

3624
04:56:03,440 --> 04:56:08,560
another, um, unit assessment that can also be done as well,

3625
04:56:08,560 --> 04:56:10,080
or you could maintain current.

3626
04:56:10,380 --> 04:56:12,920
So there, this is just the proposal here,

3627
04:56:12,920 --> 04:56:15,940
and regards to what we came up with

3628
04:56:15,940 --> 04:56:21,380
regards to the budgets so that we can maintain our fund balance. But of course this is not the

3629
04:56:21,380 --> 04:56:27,880
end all beyond. There's opportunities to adjust it any way that you would all want to and vote on

3630
04:56:27,880 --> 04:56:33,060
that tonight. My question is there any ever exhaustive other funding opportunities sources?

3631
04:56:34,040 --> 04:56:45,560
Well, beside, beside, beside, spreading the adhesive resin. In order to fund this, we, we really cannot

3632
04:56:45,940 --> 04:56:51,260
don't need to use like the general fund to be able to support this. So this is a specific

3633
04:56:53,300 --> 04:56:57,920
budget that relates to the expenditures related to this. So this is how it's going to

3634
04:56:57,920 --> 04:57:05,620
be funded in terms of just identifying the sources and be able to also find whatever expenditures

3635
04:57:05,620 --> 04:57:08,360
that we have proposed for the next fiscal year.

3636
04:57:08,420 --> 04:57:12,520
Right, but you have, I'm sorry, but you have not responded to and so my question. I said, have

3637
04:57:12,520 --> 04:57:21,520
is as we again for other funding sources to fund it, not to pass this to a

3638
04:57:21,520 --> 04:57:26,120
resident. The other fund and sources that right now we have that one million

3639
04:57:26,120 --> 04:57:30,540
dollars grant that we're getting and we just have to match that. So that's a

3640
04:57:30,540 --> 04:57:35,580
fund and source that's been identified separately from the assessment that the

3641
04:57:35,580 --> 04:57:42,480
residents would face. Okay, well based based only I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not

3642
04:57:42,480 --> 04:57:47,780
completely satisfied with this and I don't see if we cannot identify other sources

3643
04:57:47,780 --> 04:57:52,480
I don't see how the same reason we keep asking and I'm sure most of you

3644
04:57:52,480 --> 04:57:58,600
understood there would be stay here tonight to to try to see what can be done

3645
04:57:58,600 --> 04:58:03,200
because it's like we're going to throw cut boom just like them I'm not in support of myself

3646
04:58:03,200 --> 04:58:05,160
So, all right, thank you.

3647
04:58:05,760 --> 04:58:06,760
To the chat.

3648
04:58:08,040 --> 04:58:14,040
Okay, so the stabilization project is, you know,

3649
04:58:14,180 --> 04:58:15,420
an upward six million.

3650
04:58:16,240 --> 04:58:20,460
The general fund is already funding almost 4 million of it.

3651
04:58:20,740 --> 04:58:22,060
The one who controlled district,

3652
04:58:22,080 --> 04:58:24,560
ARPA is funding a part of it,

3653
04:58:24,840 --> 04:58:26,340
or the general,

3654
04:58:27,180 --> 04:58:31,600
the WCD's only paying a million of that six plus million.

3655
04:58:31,600 --> 04:58:40,140
And so, you know, the other funding sources are general fund, which is covering almost 4 million of this project cost.

3656
04:58:41,820 --> 04:58:42,080
All right.

3657
04:58:42,300 --> 04:58:42,880
To the share.

3658
04:58:43,820 --> 04:58:45,020
I'm not the chair.

3659
04:58:46,700 --> 04:58:50,660
I just want to say something about the other series.

3660
04:58:52,000 --> 04:58:53,120
Lot of the lot of hill.

3661
04:58:54,160 --> 04:58:58,980
They're paying over 250, you know, they're paying for 251 dollars per year.

3662
04:58:58,980 --> 04:59:07,060
But plantation is paying fifty one dollars a year. What is going on here?

3663
04:59:07,080 --> 04:59:08,340
There's a bigger supply.

3664
04:59:08,780 --> 04:59:10,260
More people.

3665
04:59:10,460 --> 04:59:11,320
No, no.

3666
04:59:13,690 --> 04:59:14,910
Fifty one dollars.

3667
04:59:15,770 --> 04:59:17,630
For a year.

3668
04:59:18,330 --> 04:59:20,610
Why is that?

3669
04:59:20,730 --> 04:59:26,870
May I just add something else in regards because Mayor wanted to basically know that there is

3670
04:59:26,870 --> 04:59:34,090
if we exhausted all our options, so I would just like to say that we were trying to ensure that we

3671
04:59:34,090 --> 04:59:42,310
did not tap into our reserves, but we do have $3.4 million available in our reserves, that can

3672
04:59:42,310 --> 04:59:50,250
be utilized to offset this expenditures as well. The only cities paying money, I mean, they're paying

3673
04:59:50,250 --> 04:59:56,770
money than 200 dollars is a lot of health. Every other one, every other city, they're below

3674
04:59:56,770 --> 04:59:57,770
100 dollars.

3675
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:02,240
I mean, under $100.

3676
05:00:03,020 --> 05:00:04,320
Thank you.

3677
05:00:04,920 --> 05:00:08,800
And 3rd chair, 3rd chair. 3rd chair. 3rd chair.

3678
05:00:09,500 --> 05:00:11,900
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, thank you.

3679
05:00:12,220 --> 05:00:16,300
My thing is, it's not that, you know, I'm not there to blame to think.

3680
05:00:16,520 --> 05:00:19,340
The point is, have we done studies?

3681
05:00:20,140 --> 05:00:25,260
Have we done, have we, if we present a competitive commission say, where we've done this

3682
05:00:25,260 --> 05:00:31,940
It will be this all this completely besides cutting things there or charging the reason I'll be okay

3683
05:00:31,940 --> 05:00:34,240
I'll see that but if if we have for me

3684
05:00:34,860 --> 05:00:42,220
Now until I have I've seen this I would like to see it just like my family if if I'm if I tell my family or

3685
05:00:42,220 --> 05:00:47,600
Something okay, we we showed this we showed that we have to this but I got to tell them

3686
05:00:48,260 --> 05:00:54,200
What other revenues that we'll find what are the things I'm doing there to bring some revenue there

3687
05:00:54,200 --> 05:01:06,440
What if what if it is in the house we need to sell or borrow do something there when we exhaust everything there the only thing we have to do because we need it

3688
05:01:06,980 --> 05:01:09,800
We're gonna have to yeah, I'm gonna have to hit everybody

3689
05:01:11,560 --> 05:01:18,300
Pitch in so we can do but in this case is the same thing the same residence. We talk all those assessment talk about tonight

3690
05:01:19,120 --> 05:01:22,260
And then in on top we can explain to them

3691
05:01:22,260 --> 05:01:28,600
why we need it but all they need to care where I'm going to find that money and that's all it is

3692
05:01:28,600 --> 05:01:36,240
and then if we're going to look one area should look at every area every possibility to find that

3693
05:01:36,920 --> 05:01:43,660
not to pass it on them that's where I'm at that's all that's what I'm there so again

3694
05:01:45,100 --> 05:01:47,720
That I'm chair, if I can just quickly.

3695
05:01:48,460 --> 05:01:56,680
And so Commissioner, the reason why we need to move off in the $95 amount is mainly because

3696
05:01:57,520 --> 05:01:59,660
of the stabilization project.

3697
05:02:01,140 --> 05:02:06,240
So we've used all of the ARPA money, or we've used all of the ARPA money by the end of December,

3698
05:02:06,480 --> 05:02:10,100
we'll have used what the general funds contributed, and we have a little bit of work left

3699
05:02:10,100 --> 05:02:15,240
to do to finish the, you know, the, all the square feet or the linear feet that the commission

3700
05:02:15,240 --> 05:02:20,480
had directed to be done. And so that's the reason why we need to move off of the 95.

3701
05:02:20,660 --> 05:02:26,760
We historically, this has historically always been a low assessment and hasn't increased.

3702
05:02:27,280 --> 05:02:33,160
Commissioner Louis asked earlier, or someone asked earlier if this was, you know, if the assessments

3703
05:02:33,160 --> 05:02:38,800
once they're set as always where it needs to be, this would probably fluctuate because we're

3704
05:02:38,800 --> 05:02:44,360
to stabilize canals every year, right? We're going to stabilize them, and then that system is

3705
05:02:44,360 --> 05:02:50,220
supposed to end. To maybe some additional ones we need to do down the road, but as the budget

3706
05:02:50,220 --> 05:02:56,680
manager said, there is a reserve that you can use. So if you want to do, if you want to go in

3707
05:02:56,680 --> 05:03:02,680
the middle somewhere, you can, if not, there is a reserve that will cover this cost, and you can

3708
05:03:02,680 --> 05:03:11,840
at the 95. It's what again, it's what the board wants to do and you may want to give them a

3709
05:03:11,840 --> 05:03:17,200
little bit on the project information. I'm not part of the board but I just want to help

3710
05:03:17,200 --> 05:03:18,460
us move this.

3711
05:03:25,410 --> 05:03:29,730
Okay, so the Canal Stabilization Project, this schedule ended December.

3712
05:03:30,610 --> 05:03:36,090
There's still portions that need to be repaired. In addition, when you have to look at

3713
05:03:36,090 --> 05:03:40,430
see walls or some rocks to stabilize on the areas where the current

3714
05:03:40,430 --> 05:03:45,230
problem method is not going to work. So this is why we need to increase the funds

3715
05:03:45,230 --> 05:03:48,710
so we can build up our reserves to address those in areas.

3716
05:03:49,730 --> 05:03:51,110
Do you want to share the question?

3717
05:03:51,430 --> 05:03:58,890
Yeah, I'm very surprised. How many can now all the can now is going to be a dress

3718
05:03:59,730 --> 05:04:01,790
Stabilize everything by December

3719
05:04:02,750 --> 05:04:04,390
We're going to have approximately

3720
05:04:05,010 --> 05:04:08,670
I want to see 20 areas of canals that are going to be addressed

3721
05:04:08,670 --> 05:04:15,690
But your areas where this method that we're using of the bags are not going to work because there's drop offs and we're going to probably need sea walls

3722
05:04:15,690 --> 05:04:25,990
Or we need to put those big boulders to reinforce the back. Okay. All right. That's the first part of question if not all of them not all 30 can now is when they'll be do that again

3723
05:04:26,570 --> 05:04:28,810
Everybody in the city will be

3724
05:04:30,010 --> 05:04:35,850
would pay at assessment, how far is it? Because those words say, well, why should I

3725
05:04:35,850 --> 05:04:39,290
pay? Why am I paying for something that is not even touching my area?

3726
05:04:39,690 --> 05:04:43,830
My cannot behind me. So that's the logic I'm saying. So in the second reason, the second

3727
05:04:43,830 --> 05:04:50,830
thing, if the phone is just for that or to address this can now. So at what point will

3728
05:04:50,830 --> 05:04:56,980
if we do not have any other revenues? At what point, why are we keeping the reserve for?

3729
05:04:56,980 --> 05:04:58,760
That's what I'm saying.

3730
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:06,840
If it was said for that. So there's ongoing maintenance for the canals. So we are looking to also purchase

3731
05:05:06,840 --> 05:05:14,100
a we do and then next fiscal, fiscal after next is to get a harrister to get the weeds out of the canals.

3732
05:05:14,480 --> 05:05:21,820
Right. We have to make sure that water flows. If we don't take get the weeds out of the canals, it was not going to flow, flow is going to come out of the canals.

3733
05:05:21,820 --> 05:05:29,560
I got that. I got that. I got that. Sorry, I got it, but it's just that I'm trying to figure that. If not all the canals going to be repaired or

3734
05:05:29,560 --> 05:05:36,960
stabilize at this point, those who are not who's area are not being repaired, why are they

3735
05:05:36,960 --> 05:05:41,460
paying, they're going to ask why am I paying for something that's, it's not in my background.

3736
05:05:41,940 --> 05:05:44,100
So point, it's going to appear. That's me up here.

3737
05:05:44,680 --> 05:05:45,120
Okay,

3738
05:05:47,900 --> 05:05:48,780
all right,

3739
05:05:50,930 --> 05:05:56,830
quick question. How many can I have we got left that hadn't been done

3740
05:05:56,830 --> 05:06:05,790
is it? Roughly. I see probably maybe 9 or 10 that we're done yet. What would be the turnaround

3741
05:06:05,790 --> 05:06:10,250
time for doing those? If those are the ones that I'm not going to have the bugs and they need

3742
05:06:10,250 --> 05:06:15,390
to have the walk, that's going to take a longer time, putting up walls and instead of putting

3743
05:06:15,390 --> 05:06:21,430
sun bugs down. Well, the duty assessment, once the project is completed in December,

3744
05:06:21,690 --> 05:06:25,970
then we'll do an assessment of the remaining areas. There are other areas where there's sea walls

3745
05:06:25,970 --> 05:06:28,410
following a part that would also need to be addressed.

3746
05:06:28,950 --> 05:06:30,330
Okay, so that's after December.

3747
05:06:33,100 --> 05:06:34,780
So we have to budget for that.

3748
05:06:36,480 --> 05:06:36,860
In future.

3749
05:06:38,060 --> 05:06:42,800
So we're just going to leave those sea walls for the time being till we can budget for it.

3750
05:06:43,040 --> 05:06:48,880
Well, till we do the assessment and then we figure out a small part of what we need to budget for it.

3751
05:06:49,720 --> 05:06:56,180
So there's nothing going into the future budget for this, for the assessment of the sea wall

3752
05:06:56,180 --> 05:07:04,620
not this fiscal. All right. So that's going to be a need. Yeah. Correct. Okay. I mean I understand that.

3753
05:07:04,800 --> 05:07:10,260
But you do in the worst ones first. Like that lady's house that was sinking. Right. Right. So we're just

3754
05:07:10,260 --> 05:07:16,020
saying that, you know, because we had those grand funds and we use this method to get as much

3755
05:07:16,020 --> 05:07:23,760
back for a book. So thank you. Okay. Thank you. For the record to the chair for the record. Okay.

3756
05:07:23,760 --> 05:07:31,020
Vice Mayor comes with some numbers like I would like you know he's just

3757
05:07:31,020 --> 05:07:37,500
say something about the the lowest the lowest number in around you know

3758
05:07:37,500 --> 05:07:44,980
on all these cities around it's part gun part gun 737 dollars a year.

3759
05:07:46,990 --> 05:07:48,770
I don't know why

3760
05:07:48,770 --> 05:08:02,350
I was freezing those numbers, water controlled district is every and every city the same, I think, you know, I don't know, I don't know what the differences are from our city.

3761
05:08:02,350 --> 05:08:03,370
Let's see these.

3762
05:08:03,410 --> 05:08:04,190
Let's do a budget.

3763
05:08:07,790 --> 05:08:08,870
Let's do a budget.

3764
05:08:09,930 --> 05:08:10,150
I

3765
05:08:14,760 --> 05:08:18,680
mean, that's what they're paying.

3766
05:08:19,260 --> 05:08:25,240
So, sir, it all depends on the size of the city and the amount of canals they have.

3767
05:08:26,180 --> 05:08:28,000
Any projects they might have going on.

3768
05:08:28,880 --> 05:08:32,960
So, Parkland would have too many projects going on, whereas, you know, we...

3769
05:08:32,960 --> 05:08:38,400
One point of vision is fifty-one dollars.

3770
05:08:39,460 --> 05:08:44,200
And one point of vision is they have a lot of can have a bigger city, we're revenue

3771
05:08:44,200 --> 05:08:45,200
sir.

3772
05:08:46,040 --> 05:08:51,840
Well, both, they're getting no money, that's what you're doing, but I don't know.

3773
05:08:53,800 --> 05:09:02,480
So we got to go to Texas to leave, I guess, where we have nothing, so he's there.

3774
05:09:02,480 --> 05:09:05,740
I think that's what they were there at all.

3775
05:09:06,100 --> 05:09:08,220
Because this is very, very seriously,

3776
05:09:08,440 --> 05:09:10,740
because a lot of people they, I can't see that

3777
05:09:10,740 --> 05:09:13,500
that little residents are complaining about that.

3778
05:09:13,880 --> 05:09:14,980
Now, so to keep in mind,

3779
05:09:15,660 --> 05:09:18,800
keep in mind, we were at $100 a year ago,

3780
05:09:18,840 --> 05:09:21,400
and then it was reduced to 95 last fiscal.

3781
05:09:22,340 --> 05:09:23,880
So we've been reducing it.

3782
05:09:24,060 --> 05:09:26,780
So that's another reason why we need to

3783
05:09:26,780 --> 05:09:28,240
build it back up to build our reserves,

3784
05:09:28,800 --> 05:09:30,160
to address any issues that come up.

3785
05:09:32,490 --> 05:09:55,370
Well, I have a resident with his pain 13,000 dollars and I mean 12,000 dollars in taxes on his property and his property is probably 400,000 dollars right now and imagine 200 here 300 there 500 over there and it's going to be more money on taxes.

3786
05:09:55,370 --> 05:09:55,510
Yeah.

3787
05:09:56,590 --> 05:09:57,230
And then...

3788
05:09:57,230 --> 05:09:57,670
Well, then...

3789
05:09:57,670 --> 05:09:58,570
Well, then...

3790
05:09:58,570 --> 05:09:58,910
Keep it up.

3791
05:10:02,790 --> 05:10:03,230
Question.

3792
05:10:04,030 --> 05:10:04,470
Question.

3793
05:10:06,130 --> 05:10:06,310
So, where?

3794
05:10:07,210 --> 05:10:08,270
And further questions.

3795
05:10:16,790 --> 05:10:17,230
The.

3796
05:10:18,890 --> 05:10:20,270
Because I say someone just to chair.

3797
05:10:21,110 --> 05:10:24,030
The motion that's on the floor is to.

3798
05:10:24,490 --> 05:10:26,350
Keep the rate, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

3799
05:10:26,350 --> 05:10:27,870
make the rate to suggest it amount.

3800
05:10:28,110 --> 05:10:29,330
And it was motion in a second.

3801
05:10:29,550 --> 05:10:31,090
I just want to make sure we know that.

3802
05:10:31,090 --> 05:10:33,250
Yeah, but that's what we did earlier.

3803
05:10:33,450 --> 05:10:35,290
Yeah, it's on the floor, correct?

3804
05:10:35,730 --> 05:10:36,370
That's what I'm just wondering.

3805
05:10:37,130 --> 05:10:38,390
You know, I was a chair at that time.

3806
05:10:39,290 --> 05:10:41,090
So then, we hit a motion.

3807
05:10:42,190 --> 05:10:44,450
You know, we have a motion.

3808
05:10:44,590 --> 05:10:44,710
We have a motion.

3809
05:10:44,710 --> 05:10:46,170
We have a motion in a second.

3810
05:10:46,410 --> 05:10:47,230
I read a second.

3811
05:10:48,830 --> 05:10:49,910
The motion in a second.

3812
05:10:49,970 --> 05:10:52,310
That was on the floor was two.

3813
05:10:53,870 --> 05:10:55,370
Keep it 200.

3814
05:10:57,630 --> 05:10:57,870
Keep it 200.

3815
05:10:57,870 --> 05:10:59,570
Keep it at 95.

3816
05:11:00,970 --> 05:11:03,390
Or is it a motion to approve the 200?

3817
05:11:03,410 --> 05:11:09,130
There was a motion to approve the motion as red and the motion is to, it would go to 200.

3818
05:11:09,510 --> 05:11:12,230
So if you want to change that, are you going to do anything?

3819
05:11:16,350 --> 05:11:21,850
The motion is to keep the rate at 95.

3820
05:11:22,510 --> 05:11:24,970
No, it was just to keep the proposed proposal.

3821
05:11:25,070 --> 05:11:26,390
The proposal at 200?

3822
05:11:26,390 --> 05:11:28,370
Yes. Yes. What the resolution.

3823
05:11:28,630 --> 05:11:29,210
What the resolution.

3824
05:11:31,330 --> 05:11:35,750
That was the motion made by Vice Mayor and seconded by you.

3825
05:11:35,970 --> 05:11:35,990
Come.

3826
05:11:40,770 --> 05:11:42,510
So that's it? You want me to?

3827
05:11:42,510 --> 05:11:43,990
You can vote. I don't know.

3828
05:11:44,330 --> 05:11:44,550
Oh yes.

3829
05:11:44,770 --> 05:11:45,270
Oh no.

3830
05:11:45,710 --> 05:11:46,050
Yes.

3831
05:11:46,470 --> 05:11:46,810
No.

3832
05:11:47,230 --> 05:11:48,290
Or maybe so.

3833
05:11:49,710 --> 05:11:50,270
That's no.

3834
05:11:51,130 --> 05:11:51,450
Okay.

3835
05:11:54,160 --> 05:11:55,220
So I call the wrong.

3836
05:11:55,840 --> 05:11:56,400
Yes, please.

3837
05:11:58,000 --> 05:12:05,480
Supervisor Martin. So is it the key as 100? Yes, yeah, 200. Okay, so no

3838
05:12:05,480 --> 05:12:08,380
Supervisor Borgeland. No

3839
05:12:10,060 --> 05:12:12,800
Supervisor Bustamote. No

3840
05:12:14,080 --> 05:12:15,460
Supervisor Lewis.

3841
05:12:20,730 --> 05:12:24,090
Yes, chair Lewis records. No

3842
05:12:24,090 --> 05:12:26,150
So it does not pass

3843
05:12:27,810 --> 05:12:33,710
So now we need to operate there needs to be another motion.

3844
05:12:34,430 --> 05:12:36,010
I'll say this.

3845
05:12:36,050 --> 05:12:40,450
There was a motion to have this rate.

3846
05:12:41,170 --> 05:12:42,290
That was $200.

3847
05:12:47,710 --> 05:12:51,150
Is there another motion to set a different rate?

3848
05:12:51,950 --> 05:12:53,050
To the chair.

3849
05:12:53,590 --> 05:12:54,590
The motion is what?

3850
05:12:54,590 --> 05:12:59,030
Do you have a motion for a different rate of $100,000?

3851
05:13:00,230 --> 05:13:01,030
$100,000.

3852
05:13:04,900 --> 05:13:08,800
My motion will be to raise only up to $100.

3853
05:13:09,960 --> 05:13:13,760
I mean, from $95 to $100, $500 more.

3854
05:13:15,880 --> 05:13:18,300
Any other one thing?

3855
05:13:18,320 --> 05:13:19,040
I need a second.

3856
05:13:19,300 --> 05:13:20,180
If not, it doesn't matter.

3857
05:13:21,140 --> 05:13:25,280
A second for $95 to $100.

3858
05:13:25,720 --> 05:13:26,280
That's what?

3859
05:13:26,320 --> 05:13:28,980
Based on what we discussed tonight again.

3860
05:13:28,980 --> 05:13:37,440
Basically, I don't mind, but it's just jumping to 200. I'm 95, I go. My purpose is to 105,000 more.

3861
05:13:38,040 --> 05:13:39,140
Did you get a second?

3862
05:13:40,800 --> 05:13:41,420
It's a new rate.

3863
05:13:43,720 --> 05:13:45,860
It's failed for lack of a second.

3864
05:13:46,260 --> 05:13:47,200
I hope it's dead.

3865
05:13:48,480 --> 05:13:50,020
What are the 150?

3866
05:13:54,400 --> 05:13:54,700
Second.

3867
05:13:58,100 --> 05:14:01,780
Since you have the second, you're going to do the vocal.

3868
05:14:03,380 --> 05:14:04,060
Supervisor Barton?

3869
05:14:04,060 --> 05:14:05,700
Vice Chair Martin?

3870
05:14:06,440 --> 05:14:06,520
Yes.

3871
05:14:07,160 --> 05:14:08,140
Supervisor Boorjalan?

3872
05:14:08,460 --> 05:14:09,020
No.

3873
05:14:11,210 --> 05:14:12,750
Supervisor Booster Monte?

3874
05:14:13,450 --> 05:14:13,610
No.

3875
05:14:14,590 --> 05:14:15,870
Supervisor Lewis?

3876
05:14:17,050 --> 05:14:17,390
Yes.

3877
05:14:19,030 --> 05:14:20,490
And Chair Lewis forgets.

3878
05:14:20,490 --> 05:14:20,830
No.

3879
05:14:21,670 --> 05:14:22,850
That does not pass either.

3880
05:14:24,230 --> 05:14:25,370
So we need to ignore it.

3881
05:14:25,510 --> 05:14:26,610
We need another rate.

3882
05:14:26,870 --> 05:14:27,670
So 125?

3883
05:14:28,690 --> 05:14:28,990
Second.

3884
05:14:33,770 --> 05:14:34,910
Vice Chair Martin?

3885
05:14:35,670 --> 05:14:35,990
Yes.

3886
05:14:36,950 --> 05:14:38,330
Supervisor Borginal?

3887
05:14:38,510 --> 05:14:39,290
No.

3888
05:14:39,950 --> 05:14:41,370
Supervisor Booster Montet?

3889
05:14:41,730 --> 05:14:42,670
No, I can't.

3890
05:14:43,150 --> 05:14:44,430
Supervisor Lewis?

3891
05:14:44,670 --> 05:14:44,930
Yes.

3892
05:14:45,870 --> 05:14:46,250
No.

3893
05:14:46,910 --> 05:14:48,150
And Lewis Rickett?

3894
05:14:48,150 --> 05:14:49,050
Lewis Rickett?

3895
05:14:49,510 --> 05:14:49,570
No.

3896
05:14:51,150 --> 05:14:51,950
Lewis Rickett?

3897
05:14:52,930 --> 05:14:54,390
Supervisor Lewis Rickett?

3898
05:14:54,770 --> 05:14:55,030
No.

3899
05:14:55,750 --> 05:14:57,070
That does not pass either.

3900
05:14:58,310 --> 05:14:58,950
We do, right?

3901
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:01,080
1, 20.

3902
05:15:02,580 --> 05:15:02,840
Second.

3903
05:15:09,000 --> 05:15:09,100
Yes.

3904
05:15:12,040 --> 05:15:14,620
Vice chair Martin? Yes.

3905
05:15:15,140 --> 05:15:16,400
Supervisor Boardulant?

3906
05:15:16,800 --> 05:15:17,120
No.

3907
05:15:18,000 --> 05:15:19,440
Supervisor Boost Monten.

3908
05:15:22,460 --> 05:15:24,920
Supervisor Lewis? Yes.

3909
05:15:25,920 --> 05:15:28,140
And chair Lewis Rickett? Yes.

3910
05:15:28,920 --> 05:15:31,620
So you voted just so that is 3 to 2?

3911
05:15:32,280 --> 05:15:33,040
So that one passed.

3912
05:15:33,700 --> 05:15:35,080
And chair will be voted.

3913
05:15:44,030 --> 05:15:47,130
There's no other business so you can adjourn the meeting.

3914
05:15:47,630 --> 05:15:48,130
All right.

3915
05:15:48,390 --> 05:15:49,570
No, the business.

3916
05:15:49,770 --> 05:15:49,990
No.

3917
05:15:50,110 --> 05:15:50,870
You can adjourn.