[0:07] residential properties. [0:07] >> Good evening. It is 5 '02. [0:12] Pm. I call. [0:12] To order the city of North [0:13] Florida and collect Commission [0:16] meeting. [0:17] And first public hearing of the [0:20] budget. [0:25] Monday SEPTEMBER 14. [0:26] The 2026, I'm here portion. [0:27] Welcome to residents. [0:29] Colleagues here on the [0:32] commission. [0:33] The administration Department [0:40] has and. [0:41] Everyone showing us he this [0:48] evening. Before we. Delve into. [0:50] This stuff and I would like to [0:50] make a brief and the patient. [1:00] You MAY be [1:00] all mighty GOD. Thank you. [1:01] 4. The city of North Florida [1:03] jail. [1:08] And for every family. [1:09] And resident who calls this [1:21] community. [1:22] Your word tells us to seek the [1:22] peace and prosperity of the [1:27] city. We place us. [1:28] So tonight we ask the eu for. [1:33] Was them. [1:33] Decisions that off there. [1:39] Responsible. [1:40] In the best interest of the [1:45] people. That we serve. [1:46] We asked you for this [1:46] tournament. Compassion and [1:51] care. [1:52] And for the people you picks [1:57] under. I trust. [1:58] We actually got your blessings [1:59] will be a point to residents or [2:03] employees of first responders [2:03] our administration. And this [2:08] commission. [2:08] If you will help us to be good [2:09] stewards of the resources. [2:18] It stretches interest to us. [2:18] And to be mindful of the [2:19] burnings carried by our [2:21] families. Our seniors. [2:26] Homeowners and businesses. [2:28] We ask you one more time to [2:28] give us wisdom unity and [2:34] understanding as we come to the [2:34] people's business tonight. [2:35] For the glory is yours and [2:39] yours alone for the benefit of [2:39] the people with all that in [2:44] Jesus name Amen. [2:45] But there was so much and [2:56] please let us in the hunt. [2:59] >> You [3:04] >> MAY be [3:05] good evening everyone again my [3:06] heart please. The roll call for [3:10] us. They are bored too much [3:11] here. Ice mayor [3:16] Bustamante it. [3:16] >> Commissioner Louis Rick a [3:17] fair Here commissioner Martin [3:19] is not present at the moment [3:23] city manager Sir [3:23] just fair city attorney Pam [3:24] ease, yeah, I'm city clerk [3:29] Slattery. [3:31] >> There is a Thank you we have [3:34] a core think it just before we [3:34] continue if anybody was in [3:34] here please I would appreciate [3:35] if you could get your mobile [3:36] device. Side and please. [3:41] Thank you. [3:42] We will now proceed to. [3:43] This is the first reading. [4:00] Tax free for fiscal year 2627. [4:02] MADAM C attorney if you could [4:02] do this. With the ordinace [4:05] liked to tease. [4:05] >> And ordinance of the city [4:06] Commission of the city of North [4:09] Florida [4:10] deal Florida, establishing in [4:10] adopting the city of North [4:15] Florida deal at the law intact, [4:15] operating millage Levy rate at [4:24] 7.6 [4:25] 5, 0, 0, Mills or 7.6 5, 0, 0, [4:25] put $1000 of taxable assessed [4:28] property value for the [4:28] 2026 tax year representing an [4:35] increase of 9.46%. [4:36] >> Over the rollback rate of [4:37] 6.9 89 Mills all purposes, [4:40] providing for severability [4:41] providing for conflicts and [4:47] providing one effective date. [4:50] >> All city if you please make [4:51] >> they require presentation [4:51] there we've got to thank mayor. [4:56] Yes, we're gonna do a [4:57] presentation and our just [4:57] before we begin that just make [5:00] a quick little state and here [5:00] are where we are with the [5:07] budget process. [5:08] I saw since a JULY 28th [5:09] Commission meeting. Our goal [5:11] has been very simple reduce the [5:12] fiscal impact on the residents [5:13] while maintaining the services. [5:18] Our community depends on [5:19] protecting the city's long-term [5:20] financial stability, if you all [5:25] recall it at that time I want [5:25] to commission adopted the 8.4 [5:26] Mills. We said that we want to [5:30] work to reduce it and we [5:31] reduced it and we're presenting [5:32] the budget at first hearing of [5:36] 7.6 5 Mills. [5:37] And so I'm getting from a 0.4 [5:38] Mills to 7.6 Mills. Record [5:43] required a great deal of work [5:43] and effort. Since JULY we held [5:48] 2 town [5:49] hall meetings where we shared [5:50] information answer questions [5:53] listen to concerns receive [5:54] valuable input from the [5:54] residents, some of those [5:57] imports were incorporated and [5:58] we continue to review those as [5:58] we work to finalize the budget [6:01] at the [6:02] same time. The budget team [6:02] which consisted of the finance [6:07] director of the budget manager. [6:07] The deputy city manager and [6:08] myself went back through the [6:12] House because it line by line. [6:13] We reviewed staffing operating [6:17] expenses capital projects and [6:17] other expenditures. We look to [6:18] what could be reduced delayed [6:19] adjusted [6:19] or extended. We're continuing [6:20] to provide the services our [6:26] residents have grown accustomed [6:26] to rely on. As a result we [6:27] identified more than 2.3 [6:31] million dollars [6:32] in cuts reductions adjustments [6:32] and project extensions that a [6:39] lot of us to recommend today [6:40] the 7.6 5 Mills utilizing [6:40] $272,000 in reserves to balance [6:44] the budget. [6:45] This is significant progress in [6:46] our flex several weeks of [6:48] detailed review. And some [6:49] difficult decisions that had to [6:51] be made Iraq about the budget. [6:52] But the millage rate is only [6:53] part of the overall budget [6:58] tonight, the commission will [6:59] also consider the city's for [6:59] assessments. Fire storm water [7:04] solid waste and water control. [7:04] These assessments find specific [7:05] services provided to our [7:06] residents [7:07] and properties and just as we [7:08] did with the millage we have [7:11] carefully reviewed the costs [7:12] associated with those services. [7:12] At the same time the cost of [7:15] providing these services [7:20] continue to rise. [7:20] Our fire assessment help [7:21] support the costs of providing [7:24] fire rescue services, including [7:25] personnel emergency equipment [7:25] and fire up around us [7:28] protective equipment and the [7:28] everyday costs of operating our [7:29] fire stations. Our solid waste [7:34] assessment reflects the cost [7:35] of collecting and disposing of [7:35] the garbage involved throughout [7:41] the city including our [7:42] contracts with waste Management [7:42] as well as the disposal sites, [7:46] fuel labor and equipment costs. [7:46] Our storm water and water [7:47] control assessments support the [7:48] drainage water management [7:49] systems to protect our [7:50] neighborhoods and properties [7:54] from flooding. These include [7:54] maintaining our canals our [7:55] Canal banks are drainage [8:00] systems are catch basins and [8:01] other infrastructure as well as [8:01] drainage and flood control [8:04] improvements. As our [8:07] infrastructure ages. [8:07] We experience that means [8:08] experience heavier rainfall [8:13] events maintaining and [8:14] improving these systems becomes [8:15] increasingly important and [8:17] increasingly costly. [8:18] These are not simply numbers [8:21] that appear on the [8:21] tax bill. They represent [8:22] services our residents depend [8:26] on every day whether fire unit [8:27] responding to an emergency call [8:27] garbage is being collected [8:32] drainage systems be maintained. [8:32] Now is being managed Canal [8:33] banks being restate allies and [8:36] investments being made to [8:36] reduce flooding throughout our [8:40] neighborhoods. [8:41] This is a balance that we're [8:41] trying to achieve with this [8:43] project we [8:44] must consider what it cost to [8:45] provide the services what can [8:49] reasonably be supportive for [8:50] the general fund reserves. [8:50] What our residents can [8:54] reasonably afford. [8:55] Reducing the proposed millage [8:55] rate does not mean our physical [8:58] challenges [8:59] of disappear. The cost of [8:59] public safety insurance [9:03] employee benefits utilities. [9:04] And other central services [9:05] continue to increase at the [9:09] same time. We have major [9:10] infrastructure responsibilities [9:11] ahead of us. One of the largest [9:15] is our water treatment plant. [9:16] We're facing an investment of [9:17] more than 100 million dollars [9:19] to meet new federal water [9:20] quality requirements. Well, the [9:21] federal government has provided [9:24] no dollars to support [9:24] those projects. We also have [9:25] major drainage and flood [9:30] control projects underway or [9:31] planned, including Muncy 14 [9:32] pump station commerce Shiner [9:34] Boulevard drainage and [9:35] paving improvements and several [9:36] acknowledged drainage pavement [9:37] and beautification [9:38] improvements. These 3 projects [9:39] along require approximately [9:41] 16 million dollars in city [9:47] matching funds. [9:48] To match the over 60 million [9:49] dollars in grants we received [9:50] at the same time. We stopped [9:51] them and then our roads parks [9:52] building's utilities, public [9:55] safety systems and all the [9:56] everyday services are all [10:01] residents expect. [10:02] So we have to balance what our [10:02] residents can afford today with [10:05] making sure the city is [10:06] financially prepared for the [10:06] responsibilities, we know are [10:08] coming to mark. [10:09] I recognize that every dollar [10:10] matters to our residents. [10:15] That's why the recommendation [10:16] before the commission to 97.6 5 [10:22] Mills and set of 8.4 miles. [10:22] There's a fiscal impact every [10:23] decision. Tiffany says Sussman [10:25] is reduced that revenue must be [10:26] addressed somewhere else in the [10:27] budget that could mean [10:32] additional spending reductions [10:33] greater use of reserves, [10:34] delaying projects or die or are [10:37] identifying other funding other [10:38] funding, resources or [10:38] reductions. I also want to [10:40] thank the residents who [10:41] participated in our 2 budget [10:41] town hall meetings. Whether you [10:46] agreed with everything we [10:46] presented or not your [10:49] participation was important [10:50] us questions raise concerns and [10:51] offered suggestions and we [10:54] listen. [10:54] There are so different and [10:55] difficult decisions from the [10:58] mayor and commission to make [10:59] tonight report regarding both [11:00] the millage rate and the 4 [11:03] sites months. We also recognize [11:03] the proposed changes to [11:04] Florida's property tax system [11:07] could be before a vote will be [11:08] before voters in the NOVEMBER [11:11] election. [11:12] If approved those changes could [11:12] have a significant impact on [11:18] future municipal property tax [11:19] revenues and in North [11:20] Lauderdale that number is about [11:20] 7 million dollars in lost [11:21] revenue as outlined by the [11:21] Broward County property [11:24] appraiser few weeks ago when he [11:25] presented in Newark water out [11:26] the city must therefore [11:31] continue evaluating its [11:32] long-term financial plan. [11:33] And the potential effects of [11:35] those changes on [11:36] future projects. Ultimately our [11:37] responsibilities to maintain [11:39] the city's fiscal [11:40] responsibility protective [11:40] entrails central services. [11:45] Properly fund the services our [11:46] residents depend upon prepare [11:47] for major infrastructure needs [11:47] and at the [11:48] same time do everything [11:48] possible to reduce the [11:53] financial impact on our [11:54] residents. This is what this [11:55] budget is about finding the [11:57] right balance not only this [11:58] year. But in the future years [12:00] ahead. [12:01] That has been our focus [12:02] throughout this process and [12:08] will continue to be our focus [12:08] as we work with the mayor and [12:09] commission towards adoption of [12:11] the final fiscal year 27 budget [12:12] on Monday SEPTEMBER 28 thank [12:17] you MISTER Mayor [12:18] with that. Budget manager MISS [12:18] Stewart will walk you through [12:24] that present a presentation. [12:25] The presentations are available [12:26] on the table for anybody who [12:27] what got it and print and [12:28] online. This is also been [12:29] online since last Thursday. [12:31] Thank you MISTER Mayor, thank [12:39] you. [12:40] You are a record had with Also [12:41] like casted them every [12:42] department that proved [12:42] presenting also give a very [12:47] short stennett dies. [12:48] >> a justification, you know [13:09] that. Over the thing. [13:13] >> And [13:17] afternoon everyone. Mayor vice [13:17] mayor commissioners. City [13:18] manager city attorney the city [13:23] clerk. [13:23] Our community that's [13:24] participate in here today and [13:27] also [13:28] the staff. My name is Sharon [13:31] Stewart and I am the [13:31] budget manager and I will be [13:32] going over the presentation [13:34] here [13:35] tonight regarding the proposed [13:43] budget for 2027. [13:44] So here's what the agenda look [13:44] like the city manager's [13:48] comments which was already made [13:49] the proposed millage rate [13:50] recommendation. A proposed [13:55] assessment rate recommendation [13:55] proposed citywide budget [13:56] overview proposed general [13:59] budget overview to general fund [14:00] budget overview rather and the [14:01] proposed city white capital [14:03] improvement plan along with [14:04] some you know important date [14:05] and any questions and [14:07] discussions at the end of the [14:18] presentation. [14:19] All right so regard and that [14:20] cities prof the property [14:28] taxable value between [14:29] 2627. We had our taxable value [14:29] was set at 2.8 billion dollars [14:36] which is the adjustment our [14:36] current property value equation [14:39] of 2.8 million dollars plus we [14:40] had additional. A new [14:46] construction value of [14:46] 1.6 o they all said with that [14:47] it's a 142 million dollar [14:49] increase or 5 current to 6% for [14:55] the fiscal year 20 secs budget. [15:00] This will represent our [15:01] taxable value. So between 2017 [15:02] 2027 you can see the history [15:10] there. [15:10] All right so this chart [15:11] basically in pharmacy of where [15:15] we are with our [15:15] new construction. Taxable value [15:16] within the city of North [15:21] Lauderdale so we could see that [15:22] that number one we are number [15:23] one where we have the lowest at [15:25] one point almost 1.7 million [15:25] dollars in new construction [15:26] value. If you look at the other [15:34] cities that I do have [15:35] highlighted there are few. [15:35] You can see like for example on [15:39] sunrise has about 16 [15:39] 0.3 million and. Are which is [15:42] number 23 has a bye t [15:43] 3.7 million. Last city that's [15:43] captured here in this [15:46] illustration for a lot to do [15:50] which is about [15:51] one point a billion dollars in [15:52] new construction value. So [15:52] that's just comparing [15:53] us to the other cities in [15:54] Broward where garden are [15:56] taxable increase and new [16:02] construction. [16:03] All right there property [16:04] valuation that this is [16:08] comparison to show you our [16:08] valuation in regards to our [16:09] millage rate still have [16:12] highlighted there. And number [16:13] 3 that says that we're that the [16:14] 2 point-four. Billion and now [16:19] our new proposed millage rate [16:19] is at some 0.6 5 and a few of [16:23] the other cities on [16:24] for example, we kind of look [16:29] the city of time rock which is [16:30] number 7 there at some 0.2 4, [16:30] 6, and their millage rate is at [16:41] propose anyway to be 7 males. [16:41] This chart illustrates the [16:47] historical property [16:47] millage rate. Between 2018 [16:48] 2026. We have not increased our [16:56] millage rate. It remained the [16:56] same flat at 7.4. So the last [16:57] column in Greenwich is is [17:03] pointing to it that's a [17:03] proposed millage for 2027, [17:13] which is at 7.6 5 a males. [17:14] Okay the millage rate this is [17:15] comparing 26 to 27 so be [17:20] adopted millage rate for 26. [17:25] It's 7 point for Mel. That [17:26] 8.18 point. It was a 19 million [17:26] dollars ad for our revenues [17:33] which is property taxes we use [17:33] them interchangeably here and [17:34] for 2027 the proposed millage [17:40] is [17:40] 7.6 5. Where we generate if [17:41] approved. A little over [17:47] 20 million dollars so like [17:48] almost 21 million dollars is [17:48] 20.6 million dollars which will [17:51] represent an increase of 1.7 or [17:57] 8.8 2% over 2026. [17:57] This chart represents just the [18:04] historical [18:05] millage values at Valero from [18:06] fat, I have alarm revenues [18:07] rather excuse me between 2019 [18:08] 2027, so this chart shows you [18:09] the history of what we've [18:11] collected with the ad revenues [18:15] between those years. [18:16] Our property tax dollars where [18:17] does that go there's always [18:22] that question is like you are [18:22] for every tax dollar how much [18:23] of it does the city received so [18:26] right now it says that the [18:31] school board is getting about [18:32] $0.30. I'm not a lot to do here [18:33] is get in sense of your dollar. [18:37] The county [18:38] gets 27. Broward hospital [18:39] district get sick sense and [18:43] there's an other. Category [18:44] that's unfair that will get [18:53] 0.3% 0.3 sense. [18:54] Okay that no and pack right on [18:55] the single-family home so [18:59] according to the Broward County [19:00] property or is property [19:01] appraiser's office. The average [19:03] assessed value of a single [19:04] family home and North [19:09] Lauderdale is about [19:09] 220,853. And I'd like to say [19:10] that that does not mean value [19:14] that you look at on the open [19:14] market for your property, this [19:15] is what the property appraiser [19:18] is assessed that property for [19:22] for taxable value. [19:23] So if your claim in Homestead [19:24] you've got $50,000 off at [19:32] taxable value bring that down [19:32] 278 53. So at the 7.4 military [19:33] which we have now the tax on [19:39] that property at the [19:39] 2 2853 would be a 1000 to 6431. [19:42] But at what we're [19:50] proposing today. At the 7.6 [19:50] 5 a males that property will [19:51] $1307 and $0.3 and taxes [19:57] property [19:57] taxes only and that would make [19:58] an annual difference to $42.71 [20:04] or [20:05] 3.5 6 or a daily difference of [20:06] $0.12 on that assessed value if [20:11] e 7.6 5 is approved. [20:12] In addition I have here with [20:18] property and pack on [20:18] a condominium. Where the [20:19] property appraisers have that [20:25] average assessed about a 169 to [20:26] 65 with a homestead exemption [20:27] to 50 that taxable value turns [20:32] out to be 66 1009 6, 5, which [20:33] at 7.4 mil that would property [20:36] condominium unit would pay [20:43] for 95 and $0.54 [20:43] property taxes or after 7.6 5% [20:51] we were looking at 5. [20:52] $112.28 or an annual difference [20:52] of 16.74. Markley of a dollar [21:00] and 40 or $0.5. [21:01] These are recommended [21:01] assessment The first column [21:03] will show you [21:03] the adopted and it goes down [21:04] for the different categories [21:07] that we're going to be all [21:08] voting on today and the [21:09] proposed and that the annual [21:13] change the market changes in [21:14] the daily change. So for the [21:14] fire assessment, currently for [21:22] the single-family home, it's [21:23] to 78. The recommended or the [21:24] for next fiscal year 6.15. [21:29] Many more. [21:30] >> I'd like to say that since [21:31] we we read the ordinance that [21:36] had to do specifically with the [21:36] ad valorem. We have to stick to [21:42] that won't [21:43] win out. So then folks can go [21:43] to a hearing on that issue then [21:48] we move to the next ordinance [21:48] and then you can speak to each [21:49] one separately. If you are just [21:51] like 20. [22:03] Starting at 19. [22:04] >> Okay so based on millage [22:11] rate that is proposed at [22:12] 7.6 5. The rollback rate which [22:13] the rollback rate is 6.9 8, 8, [22:16] 9, And what the rollback rate [22:17] is it's the rate of mileage [22:18] that look at to generate the [22:22] same amount of taxes for this [22:22] current fiscal year which is at [22:23] 6.9 8, 9, so which generate the [22:30] same amount of taxes as we [22:31] currently have but for the [22:32] 2026. Budget. Which will be an [22:34] increase of 2.6 [22:42] 6, 1, 1, or a 9.4% [22:43] increase over. Rollback rate so [22:44] what we are proposing is a 7.6 [22:46] 5. The rollback of 6.9 8, 8, 9, [22:47] And the percentage increases [23:01] 9.4 6. [23:12] I like the slides now. [23:13] >> You know what I can do the [23:13] Ari time you're good. Okay [23:14] there [23:18] you go. [23:19] >> All right so this is [23:19] citywide proposed budget [23:24] summary it lists the funds that [23:25] we budgeted for a man got [23:26] fiscal year. So the first [23:28] column is the fy 26 adopted. [23:30] The second is the fy [23:31] 27 per polls and then the [23:31] changes in terms of fall a [23:40] valued as well as the percent [23:41] change is so the total budget [23:42] adopted in 2026 is a [23:47] 157 million 0, 8, 4, 0, 0, 4, [23:48] This for the next for the next [23:49] fiscal But we are proposing a [23:52] budget of a [23:53] 161 1 million 9 15 5.34 again. [23:56] I I'm so done to look. [23:56] >> Just go to the general fund [24:01] we have a meeting. [24:02] The writing is clearly that we [24:03] are focused on the general fund [24:05] ad valorem and only that ad [24:09] valorem tax rate [24:10] all right and the analysis over [24:11] the rollback rate and the [24:15] increase in the budget relating [24:16] to that aligned in the next [24:17] meeting with doing the budget [24:19] ordinance then we can go into [24:22] the budget summary. [24:23] The remaining details I just [24:23] want to say that because we [24:31] need to have an opportunity for [24:33] the public to address the [24:33] commission on the one issue ad [24:39] valorem tax now. [24:40] >> So alright so the general [24:45] fund budget which is what [24:46] is Trident it's driven by the [24:47] actual arm revenues, okay, so [24:50] the general fund budget itself [25:00] is for 2026 to 54 million 8 68 [25:01] 6 mind one for 2027. We are [25:02] proposing 48 1 million 67 '09 [25:06] which is a decrease of [25:07] 6 million 3 '07, 9.82 or 11.5%. [25:08] Within that you'll be able to [25:08] see what [25:09] we have proposed for the [25:10] different departments, some [25:17] that are reflected there which [25:18] you can see the city Commission [25:18] the city manager human [25:22] resources finance city attorney [25:23] city clerk the Police [25:23] Department community [25:26] development [25:27] code enforcement, public works [25:31] parks and Recreation and [25:31] non departmental so those are [25:32] the funds are those are 2 [25:35] different departments that are [25:38] through the actual [25:39] arm revenues and again the [25:39] proposed budget on that but [25:46] this this will be the 7.6 5 [25:52] mileage is that 48 5.67 '09. [25:53] In addition. I can show you [25:57] where the breakdown is of [25:57] the the millage rate want to [25:58] show you the first line we'll [26:04] show you where the [26:04] taxes are. And the proposed [26:05] budget for the 2027. Fiscal [26:14] year. [26:14] The general fund itself is [26:15] broken down of different [26:17] objects that we budget for [26:20] which is [26:21] personal services, operating [26:21] expenses capital expenses [26:25] grandson 8 and transfers and [26:33] transfers out as well [26:34] as contingency so that will [26:34] show between the p e 26 adopted [26:42] to 27. What the changes are in [26:43] personal services, so for [26:44] example personal services has a [26:49] bunch Terry change a 775. [26:49] 1007 11 the operating expense [26:53] did decrease at 2.5 [26:53] 4, 9, 5, 4, 7, Our capital [26:54] increase also had a huge [26:59] decrease [27:00] as well. You know won almost [27:05] 2 million dollars ransom money. [27:06] 9.46 and the transfer is [27:07] undoubted teen think 50 want by [27:11] one [27:12] 0.6. The contingency itself [27:12] remained flat at 8.50. So that [27:15] is makeup of the budget by the [27:31] object. [27:32] All right so. This is just a [27:32] little summary of how the [27:36] budget is broken down again by [27:37] what we have budgeted an [28:20] expense on the line. [28:21] >> I could just for the second [28:22] month clear for the record [28:22] could you know it's what I [28:24] commissioner can. [28:25] >> Commissioner Martin arrived [28:33] at 05:29pm. [28:34] >> All right this chart [28:34] represents the fund balance [28:37] usage in the general [28:38] fund itself. The is the [28:42] budgeted expenses, you know [28:43] between 29 1920 27 us to pick [28:47] that there was a stat for [28:48] lost revenues the non ad [28:48] valorem revenues and the fund [28:54] balance you said so if we pivot [28:55] to the last com 2027 again the [28:55] budgeted expenses he's 48 5.67 [29:01] '09. Our Ed Fuller revenues [29:01] that would be generated from [29:08] the 7.6 5% is that [29:09] 20 million 6 4483 would need [29:09] non ad valorem revenues make up [29:13] that gap and the amount of [29:13] 27 million 6 4131. And when [29:14] that's all said and done if [29:19] this budget is adopted as it is [29:19] with the expenses that that we [29:20] have proposed after 7.6 5 [29:24] millage rate. We would only [29:24] need 2 years $272 [29:28] 9.95 for card 272,000 rather [29:31] haha. [29:32] In our fund balance which our [29:32] fund balance is savings [29:35] account, primarily we could [29:35] look at that. [29:39] Essentially in tact that uses [29:58] that way. [29:59] This is just like another [30:00] Official recap of the 7.6 5 [30:05] know is what it means between [30:05] the revenues expense for the [30:06] additional revenues and the ad [30:09] for arm itself represent about [30:09] 42 percent of the general fund [30:16] budget. [30:17] The are these are the general [30:18] fund budgetary pressures so [30:22] these are actually embedded in [30:22] the budget that we have [30:23] proposed already. So right now [30:25] we're looking at a park police [30:29] contract increase of one [30:29] 0.5 now the transferred to the [30:30] fire fund of 1.2 million [30:36] dollars. I'm sorry that police [30:37] contract is represented twice. [30:38] So disregard the I'm out and [30:48] the Somerset roof replacement [30:49] is that one now we also propose [30:49] and a 500,000 for the city ada [30:52] restroom. $375,000 for [30:52] Southwest 81st Street landscape [30:56] need an inspection [30:56] and engineering and also for [30:57] the home rehab and hometown [31:00] hero program. That's a cost of [31:08] 400 $1000. [31:14] As city mention that [31:14] we did you know is it a budget [31:15] again and what we try to [31:22] attempt to do is to get to that [31:22] 7.6 5 millage rate so we did [31:23] look different you know aspects [31:27] of how to balance the budget at [31:28] 7.6 5 so. There was some [31:28] revenue adjustments here where [31:34] we did get out final revenue [31:34] amount from the state in [31:35] regards to those numbers that [31:38] we have projected on and then [31:39] we've received the final [31:41] numbers so for [31:42] >> the ad valorem best the [31:42] adjustment that the first line [31:44] of the adjustment from point [31:52] for mileage. [31:53] >> 2 of the 7.6 5 so it's a [31:53] reduction a little over [31:58] 2 million dollars. Just in the [31:58] revenue the millage rate rather [32:04] from the 8.4 to [32:04] 7.6 5%. The state did you [32:05] communication service tax that [32:13] we will be get in so instead of [32:14] the original 710. We're get and [32:15] 734 9.68, which is about [32:21] $25,000 difference. And the [32:22] state revenue did go up a [32:22] little bit by 5 11 8 '07. [32:29] The half-cent tax is that did [32:30] go down from the earlier [32:30] projection. So we did was about [32:36] a $115,000 there just a small [32:37] adjustments are entering world. [32:38] He's which is 27 and that we're [32:42] proposing a for the u user fee [32:43] for the credit card of about [32:44] $70,000. That's all for the [32:51] general fund. [32:51] So these are the budget [32:52] adjustments that were made. [32:57] Between the departments in [32:58] order to be able to get to that [33:01] 7.6 5 no [33:02] millage rate with the $272,000 [33:03] that we are utilizing and our [33:09] reserves, our fund balance. [33:10] So I want to for this to the [33:11] city manager to speak on this [33:13] subject mayor, thank you Sharon [33:14] good evening again. MISTER [33:19] Mayor commissioners. [33:20] >> And so in order to get the [33:27] cuts necessary to get us to the [33:27] 7.6 5. We looked at all of the [33:28] budget so we went line item by [33:31] line item and these [33:31] are recommendations. The the [33:32] only thing that we looked under [33:35] under the commission area was [33:39] a potential [33:39] reduction of over time there is [33:40] there are a couple employees [33:44] that are over time a legible [33:45] we've corrected that issue [33:46] where they no longer get [33:48] overtime. And so we are [33:48] reducing that 24 that was [33:49] originally budgeted and then [33:57] we're making a recommendation [33:58] to reduce and the discretionary [33:58] funds as well. I'm in the city [34:01] manager's office. Consulting [34:02] services we're looking to [34:03] reduce by $125,000 [34:09] miscellaneous by $1500 [34:10] marketing by 10,000. Community [34:10] recognition by 7500 and travel [34:15] and training by 2500 and the [34:16] City Attorney's Office. We [34:16] looked at the actuals from [34:23] human resources legal general [34:24] manners and finance. So we're [34:25] recommending to reduce those [34:31] human resources by 25,000 [34:31] general matters by 10 and [34:32] financed by 10. Additionally. [34:37] And [34:37] human resources. We looked at [34:38] consulting services for special [34:44] hr product hr project [34:45] reducing those by $10,000 [34:45] reducing employee events by [34:48] $10,000. And we have not gotten [34:48] to spend we did not spend the [34:49] full amount for the employees [34:52] this year. And so that [34:53] reduction is it won't won't [34:53] impact the employees and then [34:58] travel and training in human [34:59] resources by $3,000 in finance. [35:00] We're looking at reducing their [35:03] travel and training and [35:04] seminars. I $7200. That is a [35:04] large number for travel and [35:11] training but they do need to [35:12] make sure that a variety of the [35:12] staff that the department had [35:16] and your [35:16] counties all have Get that [35:17] they're necessary ceos to [35:21] continue their certifications [35:22] in public works were looking to [35:23] reduce $25,000. 4 new decade of [35:28] street lights decorative Street [35:29] lights that will be installing [35:29] and parks and Recreation. [35:37] We are reducing travel and [35:37] training into their both in [35:38] parks and Recreation. Our we're [35:47] looking into reduce some of the [35:48] a part-time. Staff hours no [35:48] staff but staffing hours. [35:52] Is in the 7 to farm and then [35:52] with those reductions there's [35:53] also some reductions with the [35:56] fica taxes will [35:57] fly paint. Are we looking at re [35:57] reducing some money from some [36:00] special events. But not [36:04] canceling all those [36:05] special events. We're looking [36:06] at reducing the amount of [36:09] dollars is for seasonal [36:10] employees. Those are fee-based [36:10] program staff and then the [36:15] other one is the obviously [36:16] replacement of fica. Dollars [36:17] from the season all staff were [36:20] also looking. It's not on this [36:21] list, but we're also looking [36:26] at. [36:26] Reducing the a special contract [36:27] that we have in in re kind of [36:30] forming that in the community [36:30] development Department to a [36:31] rehab program are looking to [36:39] reduce of $500,000. And then [36:40] not department at all. Some of [36:41] these will be funded out of the [36:43] contingency and but we did [36:44] money. So we did to the general [36:47] fund [36:48] you know the $200,000 for [36:49] Jaycee Park tobacco for public [36:52] works. The Somerset roof we [36:52] actually are quotes from the [36:53] roof of the cause is about 900 [36:59] $1000 that we reduce top by [37:00] $200,000. We're reducing [37:00] $450,000 off the Boulevard of [37:03] champions repaving project. [37:11] Rock Island road. [37:11] We need $700,000. To pave the [37:12] portion of the road from [37:19] mcdavitt road to Valley Road. [37:20] So reducing all of that by [37:21] $700,000 because the county is [37:22] going to reimburse us that [37:23] so well it was the case of the [37:23] county will be reimbursing that [37:29] to we're waiting for the [37:30] agreement that does that [37:31] insurance we reduced by [37:35] $200,000 and then the continues [37:36] here reducing by $200,000. [37:37] And then we're going to look to [37:39] start doing certain class are [37:40] all male for all of our [37:41] advertising and only years [37:44] first class mail for checks [37:49] that are mailed out come [37:50] violent actions and or or [37:50] correspondence and the rest [37:53] we'll all first class mail so [37:54] we're looking at a reduction of [37:57] that. [37:58] And then. What will address the [38:02] other ones where we get to [38:02] it but that brings us right [38:03] around to about 2.1 million [38:11] dollars and so that is how we [38:12] were able to reduce the millage [38:12] from 8.4 to 7.6 5. I want to be [38:15] very clear that we have not [38:16] and use all those line to chair [38:21] and [38:21] put up. I went and talked about [38:22] you know where where the budget [38:26] is by personnel and so on. [38:26] We have not cut anything [38:27] associated with our personnel [38:33] we have not cut personnel. [38:34] We do have a soft hiring freeze [38:34] in place right now. And but we [38:40] do have [38:41] we haven't cut you know that [38:41] the pay raise that the [38:44] employees get unlike [38:45] other cities. Most of our [38:46] employees don't get union pay [38:51] raises plus Cola plus merit. [38:52] The North Lauderdale everybody [38:53] only got you know one pay raise [38:56] and so we've left at [38:56] the same. We left the fsa [38:57] money, the same and so that's [39:03] really they're they're reflects [39:03] the difference in personnel. [39:07] Everything [39:08] We have reduced all of the [39:08] other budget operating line [39:11] item for all the other [39:12] departments have seen a [39:12] reduction in their budgets. [39:15] Overall and so with that MISTER [39:16] Mayor [39:17] that concludes. The general [39:18] from presentation if you'd like [39:23] to hear from the general fund [39:24] departments quickly wait we can [39:25] and we can have them come up [39:27] state kind of their mode of [39:31] operation [39:31] you want to know like they're [39:32] maybe you want to know that he [39:34] accomplished and say had some [39:35] major accomplishments this past [39:43] year. [39:44] >> It says so much just the [39:45] like to make sure we have a [39:49] justification for [39:50] department where there was an [39:54] increase. And dollars [39:55] a percentage. And one specific [40:03] cause a chance India with this. [40:04] Because this program is [40:05] contracted covid whatever we [40:07] have. And then what happened [40:08] to resist services if the [40:08] question we use. I like to get [40:14] those things that every year. [40:23] Yes, you're recognized, thank [40:24] I hear we're not certain that [40:24] that we questioned yet it just [40:27] it just because that part of [40:28] the presentation will not get a [40:29] question in okay we're just [40:30] going to will be the big [40:33] question about it on unless you [40:34] something want to ask. Yeah [40:36] we're not. [40:36] You know we're not in that it [40:37] was questioning it or not they [40:40] will question is can make sure [40:41] that the PRESIDENT There ok to [40:46] the chair. [40:49] >> In regards to the general [40:50] expenditures there are a number [40:51] of items that are not actually [40:57] included in this budget for the [40:58] general fund so not all of this [40:59] is but I'll go to the ones that [41:03] are related to the [41:03] general fund which is the City [41:04] Hall security and chambers [41:08] renovations that's a million [41:09] dollars. The home Hartmann [41:10] program a million dollars. [41:12] The lap of dated home [41:17] repurchase program half [41:17] from now downtown development [41:18] related costs that's a half a [41:24] mile first time home buyers [41:25] program, 300,000. On-demand [41:31] transportation that's [41:32] 300,000. The atm a gold [41:32] initiative is that set the [41:41] tenor that's set to 50. That's [41:42] the lobby and services. That's [41:42] a $150,000 food and wine [41:47] Festival 400. [41:47] >> The feasibility study for [41:48] the special district that's not [41:52] included assigned 2000. [41:52] >> Courtney Lee, a fence. [41:53] A 100,000 the youth Council [42:01] pilot program is a 100,000. [42:02] Commissioners professional [42:03] service on 2000 that's not an [42:06] increase that's not included [42:07] rather kids with autism program [42:07] for 50 get healthy North [42:16] Lauderdale initiative that's [42:16] 50,000 the teen center at 50. [42:20] And that low. [42:21] And the general fund [42:22] expenditures that is not [42:24] included in the proposed budget [42:27] that was presented. [42:28] So with that we can get some [42:29] air we can [42:31] bring the. [42:32] >> General fund department [42:32] stopped keep good [42:33] will start, I'm just going to [42:34] order the hallway, so we'll [42:36] start with community [42:48] development time. Yeah. [42:48] She has some precision to [42:53] expect. So time if you [42:53] want to walked through just you [42:54] know community over what can [42:56] you develop [42:57] heart does any reductions to [42:58] services that are outlined in [43:10] the budget. [43:11] We're not necessarily [43:11] reductions but impacts to [43:26] services. [43:27] >> Still good afternoon mayor [43:28] vice [43:29] mayor commissioners city [43:29] manager city attorney city [43:32] clerk and or North Lauderdale [43:38] community. [43:39] >> Community development had a [43:41] 20% increase [43:44] and as you stated you want to [43:45] make sure that or decreases not [43:45] affecting the level of service [43:50] that we provide to our [43:51] community. But rather we are [43:53] maintaining. [43:54] But mindful of her fiscal [43:57] spending. [43:58] To that mayor and commission we [43:58] just want to point out our [44:04] biggest items on our budget. [44:08] As our operation of our [44:09] building department. So or [44:10] building services provided by [44:13] Broward County. [44:14] And last year we had a budget [44:20] of about 950,000. [44:20] Keep in mind that whenever they [44:21] have an increase. Built-in [44:24] system where we pay. Increase [44:28] annually. [44:29] But we we looked at our [44:30] trajectory of permits that were [44:34] process and. [44:34] The volume or processing and [44:35] also the changes in the state [44:39] regulation. [44:40] So we are planning on having a [44:44] town hall on House bill 8 '03. [44:44] I hope our residents that are [44:45] here today will come and listen [44:49] to that that is greatly [44:49] affected Alex. How we do [44:50] business. I mean and we're [44:54] going to see a lot more we have [44:55] to make room for private [44:56] providers that means they are [45:03] able to pull the permits review [45:03] the permits and inspect the [45:04] permits. That takes away that [45:08] work. [45:09] Building department would do in [45:10] turning through the consultant [45:13] which expect County. [45:14] So we looked at that and start [45:15] to reduce the cost we don't [45:17] know what that impact will be [45:18] throughout the year. But we [45:19] know it should be an impact [45:22] because we have seen that [45:23] services requested currently in [45:27] our current budget year. [45:28] Also we're trying to be mindful [45:28] of our project streamlining [45:31] them make sure that we get [45:35] projects out quicker. [45:36] So there's less review time if [45:36] there's a less review time less [45:42] inspection time that should [45:42] reduce the cost of that big [45:43] servants. The other project [45:48] that we [45:48] we have gone from 400,000 to [45:49] 200,000 is in our general [45:51] planet. [45:52] What that means is that they [45:52] MAY earn Commission approved. [45:57] The update of the land [45:58] development code. We were able [46:02] to get started in this [46:02] fiscal year. So based on the [46:03] core of that work which is the [46:08] up front leg work collecting [46:08] data packaging we have already [46:12] absorbed some of [46:13] that cost. So the 200,000 is to [46:14] push it into the. And of that [46:21] project into the 2027 year. [46:22] We also went down MISS Alina's [46:25] consulting services. [46:26] This is not an indication give [46:32] us more work. [46:33] We have been pretty good at [46:34] absorbing some of that cost and [46:39] knock on wood. We also have not [46:40] had any major disaster which [46:40] would trigger the use of that [46:46] amount which is 4 for [46:47] emergency. Building services. [46:48] So we have built in contingency [46:52] to support the building [46:52] department again state statute [46:53] requires that if we have a [46:55] hurricane or an emergency we [47:00] need to be up and running. [47:01] Within a few days so everything [47:05] can operate on time. [47:06] That money is there and [47:07] fortunately we have not had any [47:11] to use it. [47:12] Lastly we have somewhat [47:12] increased our economic [47:18] development fund, but it's not [47:18] by much. That account we or [47:21] chamber. [47:22] Our bizarre or state our case [47:26] of North Lauderdale. [47:27] And all of the projects related [47:27] to funding our businesses [47:34] whether it is currently we have [47:34] a grant program. We are we are [47:35] helping businesses to get a new [47:36] sign if [47:37] they'd like or put in new [47:38] equipment as long as it is [47:44] going to help the city of North [47:45] Lauderdale to improve. The [47:45] business conditions. So that [47:50] budget was increased. [47:51] Other than that mayor and [47:52] commission our code enforcement [47:55] budget which mayor [47:56] of us. The cost there is or [47:59] lease it up or be calls. [47:59] And right below that is our [48:03] special magistrate. [48:04] I haven't put it out there yet, [48:05] but we do have some benefit of [48:07] our special magistrate that [48:11] we're working on a contract. [48:12] Who has been generous enough I [48:13] don't know if I can put that [48:15] out yet so [48:16] I wait that it will see a [48:19] significant reduction for [48:20] us again. Some work will be [48:22] have by staff in tournament. [48:23] In totality mayor and [48:28] commission we took. [48:28] The lead from ore [48:29] administration or city manager [48:33] said cut the budget initially [48:34] we have always operated on the [48:34] sleek. Budget in our [48:40] department. And we do a lot [48:41] with very little. And we will [48:41] continue to do that for [48:44] community. [48:44] And hopefully get better at her [48:48] service. [48:48] That's it for my presentation I [48:49] can answer the questions you [48:56] MAY have. [48:57] >> City measure me ask you how [48:57] departs other departments we [49:00] have that would shore up [49:01] the present basically want to [49:02] know disappears you there's an [49:04] increase or decrease. [49:12] >> So I actually that. [49:12] >> Finance and human resources [49:13] are very small departments so [49:15] that there are changes are [49:16] very minor. Public works is a [49:17] general is a combination [49:20] general fund but also an [49:21] assessment. Department and then [49:22] parks are creations so we can [49:28] start with public works. [49:29] You know. And if you want to [49:30] just address your general fund [49:32] expenses so not anything that [49:33] comes out of any of the [49:46] assessments. [49:47] The other major increases or [49:47] decreases in any reduction to [49:50] cities and let me guide to the [49:51] commissioner [49:57] also presentation. [49:58] >> We're interest also if [49:58] there's any new position [50:02] contract equivocal [50:03] capital expenditures that would [50:03] be included to justify those [50:08] that saw one makeshift. [50:09] Okay, if you could have to [50:10] wait. That's that's a good part [50:13] of it. This is a part [50:14] of that wr just if there is [50:14] because if when when we [50:16] increase or decrease want to [50:17] make sure that there's a reason [50:17] why that's all for the public [50:20] this capital new positions. [50:26] Quitman. [50:31] If there's if there's any. [50:32] If you're so good afternoon. [50:32] It. So right now they're all. [50:39] We have some capital projects [50:39] going on. And all we have for a [50:40] couple of kids out for it's [50:47] going or landscaping. We also [50:47] have the Kimberley West this [50:48] it's good to start shortly. [50:49] Those are. [50:49] You know already budgeted for [50:50] fiscal year 26 was not going [50:55] affect, 22 the support that. [50:59] We did put in for a. [51:00] From a ministry to a [51:01] coordinator ministry to cordon [51:07] for public works and utilities. [51:08] And the budget is a 70,000 for [51:08] that position. We have a really [51:14] good question. [51:14] You know any significant [51:15] positions. As far as equipment [51:16] for [51:16] the general. There's no [51:17] building equipment were looking [51:22] to purchase now for the streets [51:23] is and that's it. And the prize [51:28] fund it's a battle. [51:29] Or just recently purchased a [51:29] gun control for that was in [51:36] fiscal year. [51:36] There have been up in increase [51:37] a bit some cuts to our proposed [51:40] budget for next year but [51:40] they're not there's not going [51:41] to be increase in services for [51:50] it. [51:51] I think there should be all [51:52] right with because we're [51:55] looking at pace 22. There's a [52:00] lot we've gotten [52:01] decrease in the proposed for 27 [52:14] 7. [52:14] We just want to make it so that [52:18] 4.6 million dollar reduction. [52:18] What we're doing is we're [52:19] spreading also were delaying [52:22] some of our projects. It's a [52:24] 2829. So we can [52:25] you know everything back in [52:25] place is far more than that [52:28] keeping the city's Plaza on [52:34] track. [52:38] For for for example. [52:39] >> They had They have $900,000 [52:40] budgeted for some new piping in [52:43] some move out. In a [52:43] conversation with public works. [52:44] It was determined that that I [52:49] can be able to do all that and [52:49] one fiscal year anyway. So [52:50] they've got $500,000 this year [52:53] and then they'll get the other [52:57] $400,000 [52:57] next year. There was some money [52:58] set aside as you know the [53:03] commission approved this year, [53:04] some engineering work for new [53:04] fire hydrants or some outsize [53:07] piping for fire hydrant that is [53:08] still in the engineering [53:09] process. So the chances of it [53:11] starting in being completed [53:14] next year do actual work. [53:15] So that project is budgeted now [53:15] not in this year this coming [53:20] year's capital budget but the [53:21] following year. So no project [53:21] was said we're not going to do [53:28] it somewhere where spread out a [53:29] little bit mainly because the [53:29] project's start date. He's [53:35] probably after you know that [53:35] the current fiscal year the new [53:36] fiscal year. You know it is [53:39] ending and so we just moving [53:40] them down the road a little bit [53:40] to make the impact a little bit [53:50] less on the residence. [53:51] >> for public works director [53:55] general. Okay all right. [53:55] I see them as an ex was [54:03] Department we will have a. [54:03] >> And as the last department [54:04] will be parks and Recreation [54:08] the rather others operational [54:09] MISTER Mayor the residents of [54:10] the House that are here if they [54:13] could see those things on the [54:13] screen. This was not part of [54:14] the original presentation so we [54:17] don't have them on the screen. [54:18] All we can show you is what [54:19] we're showing you and you know [54:27] on the far right hand side of [54:28] that column. It's either you [54:29] know an increase in departments [54:32] decreasing departments and so [54:33] we're just addressing the [54:34] decrease right now and the [54:35] general fund departments [54:36] and then the fire will discuss [54:36] there's and public works will [54:40] discuss their assessments later [54:45] on so parks [54:46] and Recreation will be the last [54:47] one to present under this one [54:52] and it's the same capital [54:53] projects, new positions. [54:56] And equipment that has been [54:57] requested and that was removed [54:58] or kick or down the road to the [55:04] budget. [55:05] >> Yes good evening Patrick and [55:08] parks and [55:09] Recreation director and just [55:10] giving up quick overview as [55:11] mentioned I know the city [55:12] manager mentioned in the [55:12] presentation what the [55:16] reductions or and I can [55:17] certainly go over some of those [55:21] again and just sharing what [55:21] we do. Providing quality of [55:22] life improved services for [55:27] pretty much all age groups from [55:28] our youth children. Teens to [55:32] our goals [55:32] our seniors, we threw providing [55:33] the services are course [55:36] services as you [55:37] all know our children were in [55:37] summer camp we serve 520 [55:41] children throughout the summer [55:42] on a daily basis and then [55:43] throughout the school year. [55:45] We serve a 140 children and [55:46] after school hours usually come [55:54] 02:00pm to 06:00pm. [55:55] area of opportunities, a broad [55:55] range of things throughout the [55:58] year for everyone, a [55:58] family oriented including we [55:59] have youth and [56:00] adult athletics. A big on [56:00] basketball city manager [56:02] mentioned we used to Somerset [56:06] gymnasium. [56:07] Gymnasium conditions is [56:07] successful helpful for our [56:14] youth programs for basketball. [56:15] We also partner with North [56:16] Florida Panthers for a tackle [56:21] football and cheerleading [56:22] program and we run a soccer [56:22] program to different season of [56:27] spring and Do 6 continue to be [56:27] successful and you know with [56:31] the help on our. [56:32] Artificial or synthetic turf [56:32] that's been really helpful or [56:39] maintenance. [56:40] Leading into one of the things [56:40] we did so maintenance cost [56:41] about $40,000. And I think your [56:42] sex or for interrupting you [56:43] have any documentation, nothing [56:45] at all documentation any [56:46] backup. [56:47] Back up a minute well what [56:48] you're presenting I don't see [56:54] we don't see anything here. [56:55] >> But MISTER Mayor there's not [56:56] that this was not part of the [56:58] original presentation that we [57:05] had planned and made public [57:05] and so this came as a result of [57:06] the questions that you in in [57:08] your e-mail over [57:09] the weekend. And so the [57:10] departments are just kind of [57:13] walking through this just sent [57:14] but the commission did ask a [57:15] couple weeks that. The park [57:18] will show. [57:28] >> Where which show a. [57:28] Their expenses everything there [57:29] for the budget for 2627. [57:31] And so there's [57:32] an increase you could justify [57:32] what's increase or decrease. [57:35] So that's what we have enough [57:39] time to do that. [57:40] >> So MISTER Chair of this [57:40] slide basically shows that [57:46] there is a decrease in just [57:46] about every department in the [57:47] city. The city manager's office [57:49] has a decrease of [57:50] 6%. Human resources, a decrease [58:01] of 1.0 9%. [58:01] The community development [58:02] decreased by 20.4 4% code 0.3%, [58:04] public works 49.3 9% again a [58:04] lot of there's our assessments [58:05] as well and then parks and [58:10] Recreation is a decrease of [58:11] 3.2%. And so the only [58:12] departments assault increase [58:13] where the sheriff's office [58:14] department that was something [58:14] that we had originally [58:19] discussed when we walk through [58:24] their contract and and then the [58:25] city clerk has a 60% increase, [58:26] but it's it's $72,000 and the [58:31] car can let you know what that [58:31] dealt with. But for the most [58:32] part all the other departments [58:34] have [58:35] a reduction in the amount of [58:40] money that they use last year. [58:41] Compared to what is proposed [58:41] right now this year, so every [58:44] part meant reduction I'm not [58:44] going to get too long, but it [58:47] got to the home [58:48] requests that his department [58:49] would say exactly what [58:52] we're asking. [58:53] >> What we increasing what is [58:54] it meant was a contract with [58:56] whatever [58:57] it is so it can justify, but it [58:58] was not shown showing here. [59:02] I mean we have to budget that [59:03] was exempt the purpose for it. [59:04] So resident would know exactly [59:07] where that money is going [59:08] to go what we need is for [59:08] example we just want to page. [59:13] 20. What was great was that. [59:21] If you could see the [59:22] there is there you want to [59:23] believe. Where shows exactly [59:27] have. To some a set of rules [59:27] is needed and what the [59:35] department x. And you see [59:35] the Police Department took came [59:36] up twice. We have is it 23 to [59:40] 22. [59:45] So those are example, I mean we [59:46] can see we could see that the [59:46] Senate seat but we do see want [59:50] it is why. [59:54] What causes to go up or down. [59:55] Because I just for [1:00:06] transparency. [1:00:07] >> I guess they're looking for [1:00:10] a [1:00:11] list of a more detailed list [1:00:11] because other than what we [1:00:14] provided. [1:00:20] It's been just that we in [1:00:21] general fund a 31, but is the [1:00:22] public soak it was we we have [1:00:24] to be maybe 7 me and that last [1:00:25] year this year we're going to [1:00:25] ask [1:00:26] me is, but what causes that so [1:00:27] we didn't have that one those [1:00:32] are the details that need to [1:00:32] be done. Prior to this meeting [1:00:35] here. But it's not done. [1:00:36] All right so for the essence of [1:00:37] time we're not going to have it [1:00:39] here that's fine. You can move [1:00:45] on with [1:00:46] do you one as for all the [1:00:46] departments would be if the [1:00:52] commission. I got. [1:00:52] Something smaller than in 7.6 [1:00:53] 7, 6, 5, What can the [1:00:59] department and you could [1:00:59] possibly reduce defender, Wolf [1:01:00] and elsewhere. Welcome peace [1:01:04] more efficient. So that's what [1:01:05] we're that's the purpose of [1:01:05] asking each department. What if [1:01:08] you want to show. We have a [1:01:09] higher increase on this [1:01:09] increase, what is it there. [1:01:14] Since we don't have that that's [1:01:15] part of the question would like [1:01:16] to have it so fast it to us or [1:01:18] we will. [1:01:18] >> Whatever millage rate the [1:01:22] commission [1:01:23] approves tonight, there will be [1:01:25] a second vote on the SEPTEMBER [1:01:26] 20th Commission meeting and so [1:01:27] if the commission said 7.4 [1:01:31] Mills. That we will come back [1:01:31] and we will show you what we [1:01:35] can cut out [1:01:36] of that. Again the goal is to [1:01:37] use as little reserves as [1:01:39] possible. So [1:01:40] we're prepared to do whatever [1:01:44] the final number of the [1:01:45] commission has to to make that [1:01:46] as best we can. We know we've [1:01:46] got I got. [1:01:47] >> The only thing like I said [1:01:48] we want to make sure that the [1:01:50] public's and thank you Kate, [1:01:57] it on no one. [1:01:58] Work for every tax dollar that [1:01:59] the Dow just spit what is going [1:01:59] on was a spent on and you can [1:02:00] see if the food you exactly [1:02:01] what is general numbers, good [1:02:07] but you want to go into the [1:02:07] deals you can decide where they [1:02:08] want is we don't want that one, [1:02:11] but that's all all right. [1:02:13] This if you have I know [1:02:13] the department. [1:02:14] >> Not not Susan you want to [1:02:15] just explain your cause the [1:02:20] clerk's office has an increase. [1:02:21] >> The increase for the clerk's [1:02:26] offices due to [1:02:26] election costs. We had [1:02:27] referendum questions a special [1:02:35] election [1:02:36] this year. And each question is [1:02:36] on a separate ballot question a [1:02:39] separate as well as other. [1:02:43] Ballot that is for the mayor [1:02:44] of art. So the supervisor of [1:02:48] election has raised their fees. [1:02:49] That that's her post as to what [1:02:59] they're going to charge us. [1:02:59] >> Back to city manager that [1:03:00] concludes the presentations for [1:03:03] now the other departments will [1:03:03] present I want to do the [1:03:09] assessments. [1:03:10] Do we do the assessment now or [1:03:11] because we have to finish the [1:03:12] map and that is first, we have [1:03:12] to finish the millage for a [1:03:13] slick, so this would be part of [1:03:44] Silverman is correct yes, okay [1:03:49] ok ready. [1:03:56] Only on the ballot for now. [1:03:56] So MISTER Chair that concludes [1:03:57] the presentation for now on [1:04:00] just [1:04:01] the mileage. We have more of a [1:04:02] presentation but we'll do it [1:04:03] for each one of the assessments [1:04:04] it's going to be part later on [1:04:05] yes, yeah okay that's what my [1:04:13] question was ok. All right [1:04:13] This I know commission is ready [1:04:18] for questions but first we need [1:04:19] the public on this game to the [1:04:19] public for questioning. [1:04:22] Comments and then with a. [1:04:29] It's the commission. [1:04:29] I am hurting anyone. Any [1:04:30] speaker display don't know. [1:04:30] If not this is open [1:04:36] to anyone. [1:04:36] >> The speakers on this and [1:04:37] decided this is the speakers [1:04:40] don't sign up at the [1:04:41] budget hearings. What has [1:04:41] happened historically issue ask [1:04:44] who wants [1:04:44] to speak and then they come up [1:04:45] one by one in the chest 3 [1:04:47] minutes. [1:04:48] They could not so I had a [1:04:51] living. [1:04:52] Historically the budget [1:04:52] hearings we do not use public [1:04:55] comments for people to sign up [1:04:58] to speak. [1:04:59] Ok I'm sure that each item okay [1:05:00] ask who wants to speak to him [1:05:02] up one of the time and [1:05:05] appreciate at no profit. [1:05:09] >> Having said for this item [1:05:09] the public the Publix kitchen [1:05:12] is open to [1:05:13] anyone please, anyone feel free [1:05:13] to come to the podium as [1:05:21] question. [1:05:22] I had to change my speech 3 [1:05:23] times after going to state your [1:05:25] name and correct. My name is [1:05:30] Linda, Ashby. [1:05:32] >> I'm a resident of North [1:05:32] Lauderdale for approximately 50 [1:05:36] years. I came here in 2010. [1:05:37] And boy things have changed. [1:05:37] Good evening. Mayor [1:05:39] commissioners. [1:05:40] My city control property taxes [1:05:41] and assessments are proposed to [1:05:45] increase from approximately. [1:05:54] 1000 to 6098. [1:05:55] That's a 594 increase from a [1:05:55] and or approximately 54%. [1:06:05] I'm non ad valorem [1:06:05] assessment along are increasing [1:06:06] from 5 from 956 to 1545, that's [1:06:12] 62%. The city manager described [1:06:13] reducing the proposed millage [1:06:13] rates from 8.4 to 7.6 5 Mills [1:06:16] has a significant reduction [1:06:20] that description is misleading. [1:06:21] Point for Miller right was only [1:06:22] the maximum ceiling approved in [1:06:24] JULY. It was never the rate [1:06:29] residents [1:06:30] were paying. The honest [1:06:33] comparison is with the current [1:06:34] 7,007.4 million rate and the [1:06:39] 6.9 8, 8, 9 rollback rate. [1:06:40] At 7.6 5 Mills, the city is [1:06:41] still increasing our tax rate [1:06:44] it's approximately 9.4 6% about [1:06:47] the rollback rate [1:06:47] reducing and inflated maximum [1:06:48] while still increasing [1:06:54] resident's taxes is not tax [1:06:54] relief. Residents should not be [1:06:55] forced to soar the consequences [1:07:03] of approximately 11 million [1:07:03] budget gap and years of [1:07:04] questionable financial [1:07:07] decisions. Yet last year 4 [1:07:08] members of the commission voted [1:07:08] to give commissioners [1:07:13] approximately a 200%. Pay [1:07:14] increase tripling their [1:07:19] salaries from 19,000 to [1:07:20] 57,000. Commissioners are also [1:07:20] receiving an 808,400 vehicle [1:07:24] allowance. While the mayor [1:07:25] salary has increased to $68,000 [1:07:29] by [1:07:29] the way Margate city a city [1:07:30] mayor is only making 3030 k and [1:07:32] there they have a MARCH largest [1:07:37] citizens. [1:07:37] I'm a senior citizen living on [1:07:38] a fixed income. I must pay for [1:07:40] my home utilities insurance [1:07:43] transportation [1:07:44] food medical needs when my [1:07:44] expenses it and it sees my [1:07:51] income I can up demand more [1:07:51] money from someone else Imus [1:07:52] reduce my spending. The city [1:07:56] must do the same go through [1:07:57] this budget line by line cut [1:07:58] unnecessary travel excessive [1:08:00] compensation race and [1:08:01] non-essential spending before [1:08:02] demanding another dollar from [1:08:05] residents. I'm asking you to [1:08:06] reject the 7.6 5 mill rate move [1:08:07] toward the rollback rate and [1:08:10] adopt a budget residents can [1:08:11] actually afford. Thank you for [1:08:20] your attention in this matter. [1:08:24] Express and please. [1:08:25] Thank you thank you good [1:08:28] evening Commission. [1:08:29] >> So I I what I found [1:08:34] interesting when they hold a [1:08:35] second that if we go testing [1:08:36] everything that means and next [1:08:36] next item because this [1:08:37] assessment I want people out [1:08:38] you can do because if we're [1:08:41] addressing to smell that that [1:08:41] would be ok buddy for just all [1:08:43] that is. [1:08:46] >> Subject there. [1:08:46] >> That's something else but go [1:08:47] ahead, you can tell me but I [1:08:49] basically pulled out one [1:08:50] particular kind of just talking [1:08:50] for everyone everyone so I [1:08:53] think I'm good because I pulled [1:08:54] out of the color category that [1:08:57] that involved with [1:08:57] the mileage and so could you [1:08:58] please state your name walks or [1:09:01] excuse and a guest in the audio [1:09:01] 11 or 2 second Avenue resident [1:09:02] of the beautiful city of [1:09:06] lauderhill so I what I did this [1:09:06] afternoon was just out of [1:09:09] curiosity. I [1:09:10] pulled a and this is all from [1:09:11] the budget from 2023. Currently [1:09:13] where we are right now with [1:09:15] the proposal. [1:09:16] You can correct me all the the [1:09:16] information to make sure that [1:09:22] it's accurate and it was just [1:09:23] basically a comparison of the [1:09:23] 2023 budget where we are now [1:09:33] with the 2027 budget and I'll [1:09:33] just highlighted by the cost [1:09:34] right. So in personal services, [1:09:41] the total. 228. 1740. [1:09:41] Right now let's a lesson again [1:09:42] I can be corrected. But I'm [1:09:49] pretty close. A 664,461. [1:09:50] When it comes to operating [1:09:50] expenditures in the past you [1:09:55] had a total of $385,010 we're [1:09:56] currently going to run now with [1:09:57] 591 1592 and then in the past [1:10:08] in regards to Grant's aides [1:10:09] and expenditures. We had a past [1:10:10] total of 82,000. The 985. [1:10:16] We're currently now with a [1:10:18] 185,387. The total difference [1:10:18] right the total difference from [1:10:23] pasta now [1:10:24] 696,735. Dollars we are [1:10:25] currently 1 million 441 dollars [1:10:28] and [1:10:32] sorry. 1 million 400 and [1:10:32] $41,440. I think we can do [1:10:33] better right if you look at [1:10:36] what was the staff. Now versus [1:10:40] the staff in that department. [1:10:41] There's a difference. I know [1:10:41] the camera can see it but the [1:10:46] crowd kept this is the past [1:10:47] this is where we're at now. [1:10:48] So there's obviously a growth [1:10:53] in that there's also what I [1:10:54] wanted to point out if a lot of [1:10:54] on the clock or not but in [1:10:59] regards to the discretionary [1:11:00] funds and to give all colleges [1:11:00] to give away money that money [1:11:01] was put together by waste [1:11:02] Management right. So that was [1:11:02] that was something that was put [1:11:07] into a program that allowed us [1:11:08] city officials. Kind of get [1:11:12] back to the community with [1:11:12] your projects we're currently [1:11:13] now away from that and work [1:11:17] using residents tax dollars k [1:11:17] and the money it it is is [1:11:18] absorb and I think that there's [1:11:21] a lot of people that want to [1:11:21] speak I don't want to take a [1:11:22] lot of time. My general point [1:11:29] to you is you can do better [1:11:29] right because when you look at [1:11:30] what was done last year which [1:11:35] was inflated right and then [1:11:36] you go back now and you try to [1:11:37] be played at number that's not [1:11:41] really fair because you have to [1:11:42] count the 4 years of the [1:11:42] administration right you guys [1:11:45] you talk about being fiscally [1:11:46] responsible transparent held to [1:11:47] accountability. I say force [1:11:51] your staff in the city staff [1:11:52] has done a great job. Go back [1:12:02] you can do better but. [1:12:03] >> And I'm going to an [1:12:03] administration feel free if you [1:12:10] have any factual questions is [1:12:10] appropriate feel free. Because [1:12:11] this is that the commission go [1:12:14] ahead. [1:12:15] >> Tell us are not only the [1:12:18] rest of your heart about [1:12:19] 6 years. But I'm just looking [1:12:20] at the data you guys give us [1:12:22] and [1:12:23] I'm seeing no money has been [1:12:24] increasing I know cost increase [1:12:29] to we've all seen it. [1:12:30] We're seeing your your income [1:12:30] income increase at 7.4. We're [1:12:33] seeing the spending going But [1:12:34] you've been overspending for [1:12:37] years. [1:12:38] And now you're looking now and [1:12:39] going oh well to balance our [1:12:43] budget we need 8.4 7.6 5 we're [1:12:44] still not balanced. What we've [1:12:47] been doing we've [1:12:48] got it I don't mind paying a [1:12:48] little more if I know we're [1:12:52] getting our money's worth. [1:12:53] Take care of things that we [1:12:54] need. But remember you guys [1:12:57] have heard me speak plenty of [1:12:58] times, I'm very conservative [1:12:58] government does water sewer [1:13:06] trash, public works. The [1:13:06] utilities, the police the fire. [1:13:07] It's not actually parks and [1:13:11] Recreation. Child care centers. [1:13:11] All that kind of stuff is not [1:13:12] part of government, it's a nice [1:13:15] thing we try to do. [1:13:16] We need to take care of making [1:13:18] sure we're safe and we can [1:13:18] live freely. Versus are we [1:13:19] getting other people's money [1:13:22] away to smaller groups to take [1:13:27] care of them. [1:13:28] As a father of disabled kids I [1:13:29] understand we've taken care of [1:13:31] the same people in the past [1:13:32] we do know the government does [1:13:32] certain things but you know [1:13:35] we're asking the 5 up there [1:13:36] when you look at the budget [1:13:39] from the city. [1:13:40] Are we really doing what we [1:13:41] need to do are we doing what we [1:13:43] want to do so I just like you [1:13:44] guys look really closely all [1:13:45] that stuff when you consider [1:13:47] this millage rate I know it's [1:13:48] tough decision and I don't and [1:13:51] the any of you. [1:13:52] But just keep that in mind we [1:13:53] could get 7.4 now we've got a [1:13:55] stake we all made. [1:13:56] Are just overspent thank you [1:14:12] very much. [1:14:13] >> Good evening out. But a lot [1:14:14] of 82 of [1:14:15] 7 southcross Rucker I'm not [1:14:16] going to go line by line by [1:14:21] what I wrote but I do want to [1:14:22] make a point. I'm a I'm like a [1:14:23] lot of people I live on a fixed [1:14:27] income. [1:14:27] Just recently the government [1:14:28] set that possibly social critic [1:14:32] Michael a 3 to 3 and a half [1:14:38] percent. You're asking us. [1:14:39] Extremely high increases in the [1:14:39] fire suspect the budget and all [1:14:44] the assessment, it's it's [1:14:44] unsustainable for people like [1:14:50] ourselves who do not make a lot [1:14:50] of money we live in fixing cars [1:14:51] and I've been living here for [1:14:55] over 30 years. It might [1:14:56] property taxes low, but at this [1:14:57] point when I got Mike trim [1:15:02] notice. It increased by $700. [1:15:03] And that's a lot and that's how [1:15:03] they 0.4 but even at 7.6 5 [1:15:08] minutes straight. It's still [1:15:13] hurting us and I think that the [1:15:14] city and all city officials [1:15:14] need to do a far better job and [1:15:20] this budget. [1:15:21] Cut the excess spending and do [1:15:22] what is right. Look at 3 years [1:15:24] of history of how you've spent [1:15:24] and make a right decision and [1:15:25] how you should budget line [1:15:31] items get rid of things that [1:15:31] you don't need. You have to you [1:15:32] know think of the people that [1:15:37] are are strapped the economy is [1:15:38] bad it's getting worse. We're [1:15:38] paying over $4 a gallon gas. [1:15:41] And it's not going to get any [1:15:42] better and [1:15:42] he soon. So you'll have to make [1:15:43] that decision we're not making [1:15:49] a salaried you guys are making. [1:15:49] So we you know you need to [1:15:50] really think look at this [1:15:55] budget line by line and make [1:15:56] the decision that you need to [1:15:57] cut one needs to be cut. [1:16:09] Thank you. [1:16:10] >> My name recent give I am not [1:16:10] a resident of the city I owned [1:16:15] properties that the city. [1:16:16] I own a specific property in [1:16:16] office building of a faulty [1:16:22] Southwest 81st Avenue. [1:16:22] I was shocked when I received [1:16:23] the criminal case a few weeks [1:16:28] ago. Well by my taxes are going [1:16:31] up from 65,000 donors to a [1:16:32] 128,000 bills. My taxes are [1:16:38] growing a 100 the same gets. [1:16:39] My rent that on collecting data [1:16:40] on that the building was closed [1:16:41] due to the safety old off [1:16:42] clothes you. But even now that [1:16:43] I'm back open in renting com [1:16:47] renting for the same rate they [1:16:48] got in 2023 2024. I'm not [1:16:49] increasing my rent, the 100%. [1:16:52] Let alone help difficulty in [1:16:53] the city to collect rent. [1:16:57] To begin with. [1:16:57] And let alone that we cannot [1:16:58] treat the letter unsealed the [1:17:01] way not the city's it's [1:17:01] possible. He'll be called the [1:17:02] growth this is the type of [1:17:05] thing that we have and that's [1:17:06] what we're collecting I cannot [1:17:07] explain but then in pain [1:17:10] listen, I'm sorry but my taxes [1:17:11] went up a 100% they need to [1:17:11] look more and be doesn't will. [1:17:14] It [1:17:14] doesn't work. So I went ahead [1:17:20] and did some calculations. [1:17:20] And by the way the whole [1:17:21] conversation up until now since [1:17:24] 5 o'clock was about it all [1:17:24] around which is high, but this [1:17:28] is [1:17:28] look terrible. When we go into [1:17:29] the man known at the Forum [1:17:32] which is the second page of the [1:17:32] tree note is that everybody [1:17:33] gets that's what you get shock. [1:17:37] That's where you'll in my open [1:17:38] Mike on in my situation then on [1:17:39] foot on patrol, he went [1:17:41] up there. [1:17:42] >> Could be MISTER Mayor this a [1:17:50] conversation about the [1:17:50] mileage only and so I do or or [1:17:51] that assessments or not have [1:17:52] work need to come we discussed [1:17:52] items please yeah, okay you [1:17:53] grew up with the finishing [1:17:57] order to continue to come back [1:17:58] later we'll come to know as you [1:17:58] could cut the inner during that [1:18:00] the presentation that we have a [1:18:01] little bit more assessment [1:18:01] would be after Evelyn number [1:18:04] and no one has gone so the way [1:18:07] to [1:18:08] keep going and I know you can [1:18:09] well was they can come in later [1:18:13] on with that one ok. [1:18:13] >> One cent to 9 down the line [1:18:14] will be addressed at the right [1:18:16] time and that would mean says [1:18:21] be meant that someone. [1:18:22] >> But it's going to be today [1:18:23] today today, yes, sometime [1:18:41] later on ok, ok. [1:18:41] >> Good evening. My name is [1:18:42] Thomas scales, I'm a resident, [1:18:45] not a lot of else's. 2019. [1:18:49] A correction 29 to 1990. [1:18:49] >> a little bit upset over [1:18:56] here, yeah but. [1:18:57] My taxes are increasing and I [1:18:57] never. Complained about it, you [1:19:00] know every year I pay what what [1:19:03] is due. [1:19:04] And I don't see any [1:19:04] improvements in my neighborhood [1:19:12] whatsoever. We got potholes. [1:19:13] The streetlights that are out [1:19:17] of stock. And said might. [1:19:18] Various very simple my wife to [1:19:24] get model, whatever. [1:19:24] I can't protect them up there I [1:19:25] can see what's going on. [1:19:31] With our money away. And I wish [1:19:32] that would stop. Consider the [1:19:33] residents. What they're up [1:19:37] against. With today's economy. [1:19:37] And I know cost of living is [1:19:38] going up and things like that [1:19:47] we could be more reasonable. [1:19:48] About to pay 7 almost $7,000 [1:19:48] and Texas. And that's a 3 to [1:19:52] house the House was built in [1:19:53] 1978 that house when when it [1:19:56] was built [1:19:56] it costs, 35,000 doubts, I [1:19:59] House 80,000. [1:20:00] I have invested almost 200,000 [1:20:05] to that House. [1:20:06] Prove mentioned things like [1:20:12] that. I had to. [1:20:12] Watch wander. Waste time or [1:20:13] anything like that but I want [1:20:16] you guys to realize that I'm [1:20:21] a taxpayer. I work hard. [1:20:21] I have a wife and have children [1:20:22] and I'm trying to do the best [1:20:27] to raise them. What you guys [1:20:27] are making it more difficult. [1:20:28] For people like myself to keep [1:20:33] up with the times. Really it [1:20:34] really is they should be. [1:20:34] More about a consideration on [1:20:38] your behalf. The people that [1:20:53] you represent so that the sect. [1:20:54] >> Without that not everyone [1:20:57] I've got to you. I [1:20:58] like to I hear all of you [1:20:58] talking about that all real. [1:21:02] Given the time and I love it. [1:21:07] When it comes [1:21:08] to love if you read in the rain [1:21:09] right United and everything up. [1:21:13] And then double. [1:21:13] You need to know when that [1:21:18] included bomb which [1:21:18] I understand I'm running my [1:21:19] company and that action I've [1:21:25] got somebody so we're going to [1:21:25] have them up more on the 5,000 [1:21:26] of the 75,000. It doesn't ball. [1:21:29] I might not be the center of [1:21:31] your. [1:21:32] We cannot get rent people get [1:21:33] And I'm just them because they [1:21:40] need the probe the business. [1:21:41] But you guys need to understand [1:21:42] we the business owner over this [1:21:46] city. [1:21:46] They then but over the city [1:21:47] that they thought to be every [1:21:51] Texan every year. I mean 25 in [1:21:52] the city governor the city 25 [1:21:57] year. [1:21:58] And I don't give out by without [1:21:58] a lot of pressure on me to [1:21:59] that standard we're going to [1:22:00] lie about the other thing is [1:22:03] that they do then with that. [1:22:06] So I [1:22:07] love your appreciate all of you [1:22:09] know not [1:22:10] what John try to root for the [1:22:10] home action along with it then [1:22:15] shovel, we've got to just raise [1:22:15] raise rent and they have the [1:22:19] money. No we've [1:22:20] gone up. So at the venue we [1:22:20] don't have you want to point [1:22:23] out in the back seat and that's [1:22:24] not where you want that's what [1:22:25] I want appreciate you everybody [1:22:29] thank you MAY have. [1:22:30] Commissioner white man and that [1:22:33] meant that we thank you. [1:22:40] Please state your name. [1:22:40] Yeah, you know I feel that's [1:22:41] the end of the game said Ben. [1:22:44] On if you want to know. [1:22:56] On a defense that can be. [1:22:57] >> Good evening. Everyone, my [1:22:58] name is Anne Marie Bernard and [1:23:00] i am a resident of North [1:23:03] Lauderdale for the last. [1:23:03] 3 years. It is the pure [1:23:04] unadulterated houses, I've [1:23:09] lived here. I can't get [1:23:09] anything done. I had to wait 18 [1:23:10] months for a street like to go [1:23:21] look. You guys want me to pay. [1:23:22] $6500 a year. In us dollars to [1:23:23] live. And what I'm going to [1:23:25] call the [1:23:26] questionable neighborhood. [1:23:27] I'm looking okay be looking at [1:23:29] plantation looking it up and [1:23:29] that really happened they can [1:23:30] have of normal nearly tree. [1:23:37] But we have to pay higher than [1:23:38] everybody else. So as I must [1:23:39] say people 40% of this city was [1:23:41] on a fixed budget. [1:23:42] And that they don't make and [1:23:46] and they make less than $50,000 [1:23:47] a year. The median household [1:23:48] income is $60,000. So you're [1:23:50] telling me that the House and I [1:23:50] bought 3 years ago is so [1:23:51] amazingly expensive and you [1:23:56] have to be assessed at such a [1:23:56] high value and I need to be [1:23:57] able need to be $7,000 to do [1:24:00] that means I can make it any [1:24:00] improvements on my house, you [1:24:01] guys are not going to help me [1:24:05] because I make too much money [1:24:06] that's about it people veteran [1:24:07] alright, I'm not a Medicaid are [1:24:10] not a senior citizen. But I [1:24:11] do have a disabled veteran has [1:24:12] been. Then we can make any [1:24:15] improvements to the House [1:24:15] because the taxes $7,000 a year [1:24:16] and I over pay for the House [1:24:21] because guess what players [1:24:22] literally the only place in [1:24:22] Broward County to get 3 years [1:24:26] ago at least you can find a [1:24:27] place that was entered under [1:24:27] $500,000. So we've got sick [1:24:32] understanding that. Half of [1:24:33] this County that happened to [1:24:33] see. Is making less than [1:24:37] $50,000 a year. [1:24:38] We are being grossly over [1:24:39] assessed as far as our property [1:24:42] values are concerned. [1:24:43] I think that we need to [1:24:43] seriously reconsider every [1:24:49] single part of the millage is [1:24:50] being that he doesn't look like [1:24:51] a whole lot on paper but that. [1:24:53] 2.2 6, 5, whatever it is. [1:24:54] Costing us an enormous amount [1:25:00] of money. [1:25:01] There's an extra $1000 on my [1:25:01] tax 1000 extra dollars on my [1:25:05] taxes for one year or 2 or 3 [1:25:06] years and just escalating and [1:25:06] escalating escalating. I have [1:25:12] potholes. [1:25:12] A bunch of Section 8 renters no [1:25:13] Street lights that the bonds up [1:25:14] and down below. [1:25:15] >> Running through my [1:25:15] neighborhood at night because [1:25:18] that's where the decided to [1:25:19] sleep and nobody doing I've got [1:25:20] to think about it. So [1:25:21] guess what I'm going ask every [1:25:21] single one of you because I [1:25:24] e-mailed everybody who works [1:25:28] for the city of [1:25:29] North Lauderdale to seriously [1:25:30] reconsider $200,000 that's [1:25:33] going to take you parking a [1:25:34] beautiful lights and all that [1:25:34] just to put a little bit Street [1:25:37] start there. [1:25:38] I don't care about you to feel [1:25:44] like that this needs to be [1:25:44] seriously reassess this [1:25:45] military to go down to like 2% [1:25:46] because we live in the cricket [1:25:47] what are you guys doing ok this [1:25:47] city I would really appreciate [1:25:50] them am sorry, I would [1:25:50] appreciate if you keep the [1:25:53] anguish. [1:25:54] >> Appropriate please. The hood [1:25:59] as a hearse that [1:26:00] mad men. I said if you green [1:26:01] here, they are fortunate that I [1:26:05] have ma'am no ma'am what I am [1:26:06] I'm taking my time ma'am ma'am [1:26:07] what I'm not going to and this [1:26:07] koh sai if I would [1:26:09] appreciate it. [1:26:09] >> That is going to put the [1:26:10] unification right and I can't [1:26:12] put again Street like put on my [1:26:16] Street I'm not going to do [1:26:17] that ok with all due respect [1:26:17] with all due respect my [1:26:23] position on this matter. [1:26:23] With all due respect and one [1:26:24] last one last time and I've got [1:26:27] one last time. [1:26:33] Thank you very much. Thank you. [1:26:34] >> this listed as vacant [1:26:37] Street. [1:26:37] >> We've been very rich very [1:26:42] lenient about that. [1:26:42] >> Where is the man a person [1:26:43] I'm going to ask I'm going to [1:26:45] ask if you connect it to or I'm [1:26:45] going to be escorted very [1:26:46] nicely. Please we don't want to [1:26:53] get that is that worth that. [1:26:54] There's no need for that with [1:26:55] this as respect first of all. [1:26:57] Let me [1:26:58] say please a lot of people do [1:26:58] not understand what's going [1:27:01] when we see you guys [1:27:02] you guys. We understand the [1:27:03] role of the rest of the [1:27:06] commission to represent your [1:27:07] interests with a lot of [1:27:08] decision we are is proposed to [1:27:10] the commission. Tonight is it [1:27:11] what the commission will do to [1:27:15] set up to ask what you [1:27:16] are asking. But it seems like a [1:27:16] lot of people to understand how [1:27:20] government the city proposes [1:27:21] the commission will adopt was [1:27:22] set up. This is not proposed by [1:27:24] the commission. It's going to [1:27:27] clear like that. [1:27:28] And I understand that but that [1:27:32] is all we ask is respect. [1:27:33] Mutual respect we're not going [1:27:33] to disrespect please respect [1:27:41] everyone here and organs. [1:27:42] Thank you very much. Correct. [1:27:43] Michelle counter. My question [1:27:45] actually is. [1:27:51] Yes so it's not. [1:27:52] So I'm I'm sorry that you [1:27:53] address the question you're [1:27:55] just a question addressed to [1:27:56] the chair, okay to see that [1:27:56] that's all that you that you [1:27:59] and you could yeah that's fine. [1:27:59] Yeah, I just wanted [1:28:03] clarification on. [1:28:07] He's 31. [1:28:08] >> But the only so this is all [1:28:09] what was present on the [1:28:11] correct. Okay is is on it's [1:28:12] about you that's what we asked [1:28:35] you that so what. [1:28:36] >> With his Fire. It was $1.2. [1:28:37] Yes, ma'am. This map. Yes, you [1:28:40] under state law. The city's [1:28:41] could have a fire assessment. [1:28:45] And so the [1:28:46] fire assessment basically [1:28:47] covers the fire portion of the [1:28:50] fire rescue operation. All [1:28:51] right so the city hires a [1:28:52] private consultant that doesn't [1:28:55] evaluation looks like called [1:29:01] And so on and determines a. [1:29:02] A parade percentage that is [1:29:03] fire and the percentage that is [1:29:06] rescue. The fire assessment [1:29:07] that will be dealt with later [1:29:07] on today in the meeting deals [1:29:11] with the fire part of the fire [1:29:12] rescue department archive. [1:29:16] The transfer [1:29:17] from the general fund to the [1:29:17] Fire Department for the 1.2 [1:29:20] million dollars covers the [1:29:23] rescue portion of the fire [1:29:24] rescue department because by [1:29:24] state law all we can have a [1:29:29] fire rescue assessment. And so [1:29:30] the general fund pays for the [1:29:30] taxpayers pay for the rescue [1:29:33] portion. [1:29:41] And this is separate from. [1:29:41] So that the fire assessment is [1:29:42] not out of the lore and so out [1:29:47] of the general fund out [1:29:48] of the 46 $47,000 by 46 million [1:29:49] dollar budget this year. [1:29:52] One point to that you don't go [1:29:52] to the fire Department to make [1:29:55] them whole. Ok so you. [1:29:56] >> Actually that the new test [1:29:57] from that to here. [1:29:58] >> Yes, so we'll take that from [1:29:59] the general fund transfer to [1:30:00] the fire so they have a [1:30:03] complete budget. [1:30:08] >> My next question [1:30:09] I guess the same page where you [1:30:10] speak of the police contract [1:30:17] increases up to me and a half. [1:30:18] And I know you said you said [1:30:19] twice. He's been twice. But [1:30:23] then on page 22 we do. [1:30:23] With other departments with [1:30:24] doing their presentation. [1:30:31] Effect the scene at. [1:30:32] >> Department increase of all [1:30:32] yes and what has happened our [1:30:35] copy contract with the [1:30:36] sheriff's office. As of OCTOBER [1:30:36] first [1:30:37] 2026, we'll be it's our new [1:30:37] contract Commission recently [1:30:43] entered into the new contract. [1:30:44] The additional part of that is [1:30:52] that the state [1:30:53] of Florida and if its infinite [1:30:54] wisdom decided to increase the [1:30:58] amount of retirement pay [1:30:59] or percentage that every city [1:31:00] or County has to pay for every [1:31:02] police officer [1:31:03] or firefighter. In 10 the frs [1:31:07] the Florida retirement system [1:31:07] this year. The cat this state [1:31:08] increase that contribution. [1:31:13] And they dumped him 100% onto [1:31:14] the cities and counties. [1:31:16] So a firefighter in [1:31:16] North Lauderdale. Or police [1:31:17] officer even though they work [1:31:25] for the sheriffs are right they [1:31:26] pay 3% of their pay goes into [1:31:27] their retirement. The city is [1:31:30] contributing now about 35 36%. [1:31:30] And so if you look at that the [1:31:31] other way right for general [1:31:37] employee. Now police in on fire [1:31:37] in North Florida. We contribute [1:31:38] to 40% and so it's a big [1:31:44] difference, but it's again it's [1:31:44] an unfunded mandate from the [1:31:45] state stop arm to the city and [1:31:46] we have to say so it's not in [1:31:47] addition to this to me you know [1:31:48] it's tough to do that. So this [1:31:52] will mean you have with you. [1:31:56] >> Its terminal because we [1:31:57] recently received the on the [1:31:58] difference for the frs [1:32:01] increase. And my final the [1:32:11] question was. A 61. [1:32:12] Well you said you did half of [1:32:15] it. They spoke on. [1:32:21] So you know this stunt. [1:32:21] And on the line and the ones [1:32:22] that are not included in the [1:32:23] yes ma'am okay, this whole case [1:32:24] is not included in the proposed [1:32:29] budget. [1:32:29] >> But the very top line. [1:32:34] Tending to the wartime purpose [1:32:35] and that was not one of those [1:32:35] looked at was not as much. [1:32:40] So say this to me and. [1:32:41] >> He's not in the budget. [1:32:41] But that's not what it was that [1:32:42] she said [1:32:43] wasn't much. She went on a list [1:32:44] of them and just started with [1:32:46] one mean for the City Hall and [1:32:49] then she went down [1:32:50] the line. We're sorry for what [1:32:51] you because we were voting on [1:32:53] the general from the garden [1:32:54] like [1:33:00] the mileage. [1:33:01] >> And then that one for the [1:33:02] fire multi purpose that belongs [1:33:05] to the fire fund so that's [1:33:06] access right excluded that from [1:33:07] the presentation, but again [1:33:11] just like the second one that [1:33:11] says utilities that line [1:33:12] because that would come out of [1:33:17] the utilities assessment. [1:33:20] That the general fund. We can [1:33:21] talk about and so MISTER Mayor [1:33:21] if I could just quickly from [1:33:28] just to address a couple the [1:33:29] first thing it was brought up [1:33:29] by at least 2 speakers about [1:33:33] the appraisal of [1:33:34] their property. As we shared we [1:33:34] have the property appraiser [1:33:37] here for a town [1:33:38] hall meeting that was [1:33:39] advertised to all the residents [1:33:41] in North Lauderdale. The [1:33:42] property appraiser told [1:33:42] everyone right the city does [1:33:47] not appraise property. The [1:33:48] property appraiser raises [1:33:48] property. Property appraiser [1:33:53] was very clear if you have an [1:33:54] issue with feel your property [1:33:55] value is too high. You need to [1:33:58] reach out to the property [1:33:59] appraiser's office. They will [1:33:59] tell you what you need to do [1:34:01] have to do that your property [1:34:01] reappraisal again the city [1:34:02] doesn't appraise property. [1:34:06] That's done by the Broward [1:34:07] County property appraiser [1:34:08] MISTER Carr gave his phone [1:34:12] number out too probably about 2 [1:34:13] dozen people that were here [1:34:13] that day to call him personally [1:34:16] so he can look into those and [1:34:17] anybody that wants we can [1:34:19] provide MISTER [1:34:20] Cars information so that you [1:34:21] can call his office to how to [1:34:26] get your property whether it's [1:34:27] commercial or residential real [1:34:28] praise. The next thing I just [1:34:32] want to address that you if you [1:34:33] look at our general fund [1:34:33] expenditures in fiscal year [1:34:40] 2024 it was 42.6 million [1:34:40] dollars. Today. If you [1:34:41] fast-forward to 2027 we are [1:34:46] proposing 48 million dollars. [1:34:47] So it is a four-million dollar [1:34:48] increase it is a reduction of [1:34:52] 6 million dollars over last [1:34:53] year. So we have looked every [1:34:53] dusing the project and so I as [1:34:59] the mayor said. [1:34:59] The commission tonight in their [1:35:00] first hearing. This is your [1:35:03] first opportunity to vote on [1:35:04] what the millage rate will be [1:35:07] for fiscal year, 2627. [1:35:08] The number you give tonight [1:35:08] whether whatever that number is [1:35:13] we will then go back and we [1:35:18] will work to redo our budget [1:35:19] once again. And we will present [1:35:20] to you again on SEPTEMBER 28th. [1:35:22] A final budget at the mileage [1:35:23] that you're going to propose [1:35:26] tonight. [1:35:27] And that that final millage [1:35:28] will have some views possibly [1:35:31] of reserves for additional cuts [1:35:31] to get to where we need to be. [1:35:35] Thank you. MISTER. [1:35:42] Ok thank I see one more person. [1:35:43] Okay okay on that means how [1:35:43] many more I need to speak on [1:35:46] this item. I don't want to ok [1:35:46] that's it [1:35:49] thank you. [1:35:50] >> Good evening. Mayor, Rick [1:35:51] Meehan vice mayor commissioners [1:35:53] giving senior managers say [1:35:54] Clark to see a tight so I MISS [1:35:55] You guys up. Good evening with [1:36:00] a look right 3.24 Southwest [1:36:01] 8th Avenue. And I just out my [1:36:05] question [1:36:05] very brief. I know a lot of [1:36:06] races do not know this but our [1:36:10] property values have gone up [1:36:11] and the question I axing and I [1:36:12] think or is it actually acts [1:36:15] with that question. If our [1:36:16] property values have gone up [1:36:17] breaking my niece from that and [1:36:20] we're raising [1:36:20] you're the proposed millage [1:36:24] rate is 7.6 5%. [1:36:24] The question I simply ask is [1:36:25] why is the additional on top of [1:36:27] raising our taxes the [1:36:27] assessments that you guys will [1:36:28] talk about as well as getting [1:36:34] the monies from the values of [1:36:35] our properties why then are we [1:36:36] now still going why then are we [1:36:38] still having to go into our [1:36:39] reserves to balance a budget to [1:36:39] pay our everyday operational [1:36:41] bills. That said thank you [1:36:44] thank you. [1:36:49] >> You MAY see some of MISTER [1:36:50] Mayor arm. So basically what [1:36:55] we're looking at and in the use [1:36:56] of reserves is we're we're [1:36:57] trying to greatly reduce the [1:36:59] dependency on reserves moving [1:37:00] forward as I stated earlier the [1:37:00] great unknown, because what [1:37:03] happens on NOVEMBER, 3rd with [1:37:07] property [1:37:07] tax reform, their property [1:37:11] taxes if property tax passes [1:37:12] in Florida. Right the city will [1:37:12] lose about 7 million dollars [1:37:14] we've started the process along [1:37:15] with most of the other cities [1:37:15] throughout the state. I'm [1:37:21] trying to refine our budget [1:37:22] so that we are in a position to [1:37:22] be able to continue to offer [1:37:25] services depending on what [1:37:34] happens with property [1:37:35] we propose using $272,000 in [1:37:35] reserves at 7.6 5. Tonight the [1:37:41] commission could say we wanted [1:37:41] to be 7.6 5 with no use of [1:37:42] reserves. We will come back [1:37:46] with no reserves. I think next [1:37:47] budget when you pass your final [1:37:48] budget. You could say 7 with no [1:37:53] reserves and we will do [1:37:54] everything possible to get to [1:37:55] that number and we will explain [1:37:58] to the commission. How we got [1:37:59] to that number and the impacts [1:37:59] that MAY have eventually on [1:38:09] city services so. We are trying [1:38:10] to be as. Careful as possible [1:38:10] with the use of the reserves. [1:38:14] And that's the answer whether [1:38:15] again, whether it's like [1:38:16] they're not we're trying to get [1:38:21] a respectful answer to the [1:38:21] question. Why we're using some [1:38:22] reserves whether or not the [1:38:24] final decision of the [1:38:25] commission is to preserve do [1:38:26] not cause a commission [1:38:28] decision. [1:38:31] Thank you thank you. [1:38:34] Next speaker. [1:38:35] >> Hi my name is rana comicon [1:38:40] 2040 winner circle. [1:38:41] I just have to a couple of [1:38:42] quick things one I know I've [1:38:45] been here when you guys have [1:38:46] discussed making your car now a [1:38:47] destination for people want to [1:38:49] come. I've been a small [1:38:50] business owner I police [1:38:53] commercial property, I know [1:38:54] how much those rates changing [1:38:54] every year can impact small [1:38:58] businesses specifically in [1:38:59] times where discretionary [1:39:00] spending as well. When you look [1:39:04] at raising taxes on any group [1:39:11] of people when you're for [1:39:11] real estate, those small [1:39:12] businesses feel that impact and [1:39:13] they MAY leave the city of [1:39:14] North Lauderdale. Making it far [1:39:14] less of a destination instead [1:39:17] of more as I believe the [1:39:27] commission is working towards. [1:39:28] I wanted to know. This slide [1:39:28] that's up here now. Some of the [1:39:29] items that are that were [1:39:30] submitted after the proposed [1:39:30] budget was balanced how does [1:39:35] that affect what the millage [1:39:36] rate looks like. When those get [1:39:36] factored into the to the [1:39:41] budget. [1:39:42] I look at budgets for [1:39:43] everything in my job and my [1:39:48] home for my community and I see [1:39:49] a lot of things and looking [1:39:49] hair where decisions might need [1:39:56] to be made whether something is [1:39:56] a want or need. I do want to do [1:39:57] a lot of things around my house [1:39:58] as PRESIDENT Of my H.O.A. I [1:39:59] want to do a lot of things [1:40:00] around my community. But I [1:40:04] don't always have the funding [1:40:04] for those things so I ask you [1:40:05] to please consider what is [1:40:09] really necessary now and what [1:40:10] maybe we can start partially [1:40:10] funding. For later on down the [1:40:13] road. Thank you very much. [1:40:18] Thank you. [1:40:19] >> scene. [1:40:22] >> No [1:40:25] >> speakers. [1:40:32] >> We [1:40:32] >> bring it back to the [1:40:39] commission for questions. [1:40:39] We've got to the nation budget [1:40:40] please before we go ocean to [1:40:44] motion. [1:40:45] You're recognize Let me be [1:40:49] fair. [1:40:50] Right now my question for you [1:40:50] Sir I okay commissioner yes, [1:40:54] good. I think you know. [1:40:55] >> o one has to say first off [1:40:58] thank everyone for coming [1:40:59] out tonight. It's kind of good [1:41:00] to see a one-year night [1:41:02] snapping in. So that you guys [1:41:04] are 10 of [1:41:05] them alert. The intention, but [1:41:06] I do want to surrender 8 that [1:41:09] that 8.4 was a proposed budget. [1:41:10] Because of the key parents in [1:41:10] the all sitting it. And that's [1:41:17] that's what you guys are doing. [1:41:17] A couple of course, but Pope or [1:41:18] post so to some stand as [1:41:27] opposed to going towards us. [1:41:27] Also a few things that I want [1:41:28] ex no one on page 31 in this is [1:41:35] a home we have hometown program [1:41:35] hero program. Just a little bit [1:41:36] more about that a few plants [1:41:42] questions about that. [1:41:43] >> So that is a home rehab and [1:41:43] hometown hero program it's a [1:41:51] program that the commission [1:41:52] staff was last year. The home [1:41:53] rehab helps. Residents. Make [1:41:58] repairs to [1:41:58] their homes. Depending on their [1:41:59] qualifications it could be for [1:42:02] a new air-conditioner it could [1:42:03] be to expand their driveway. [1:42:03] It could be for a new roof, it [1:42:10] could be for impact windows. [1:42:11] And so that's what the home [1:42:11] rehab part is the hometown. [1:42:17] Hearing program was a. [1:42:18] Possible program that would [1:42:18] allow the city to buy [1:42:21] distressed properties. [1:42:22] Renovate those distressed [1:42:27] properties and then [1:42:28] sell them. To police officers [1:42:28] firefighters, school teachers [1:42:38] are some or saw you it in the [1:42:38] hopes of helping turn around a [1:42:45] and in general. That is a [1:42:46] program that. We tried to get a [1:42:47] appropriation money for the [1:42:50] program was widely received. [1:42:51] By our state legislators on [1:42:51] both sides of the aisle. [1:42:54] However, it was not something [1:42:55] that in the end was funded by [1:42:56] the state so it is something [1:42:59] that we will look out possibly [1:43:00] for federal appropriation or an [1:43:01] additional state appropriation [1:43:04] to help fund that as well but [1:43:05] that's what that money is for. [1:43:05] So we're looking for grant [1:43:11] money for that we will look [1:43:11] for. Additional assessment or [1:43:14] choose [1:43:15] me additional appropriation [1:43:15] either federal or state not so [1:43:21] much Grant because the state [1:43:22] has a program that also right [1:43:22] that they they have the my [1:43:24] Florida safe program and they [1:43:25] also have their own hometown [1:43:26] hero program. The state this is [1:43:35] designed more for more water. [1:43:36] >> questions acts on Saturday. [1:43:37] If we were to cut some of these [1:43:39] Grant out that [1:43:40] we're given kind of going to [1:43:43] want more so like the previous. [1:43:43] The commission is got to be [1:43:46] more tighter [1:43:47] less spending what would the [1:43:48] kind of get one of [1:43:49] assistance from if we were not [1:43:50] going to come just acts and [1:43:54] just because the next Saturday. [1:43:55] MISTER [1:43:58] Mayor so. [1:44:01] >> If this city work to [1:44:02] home rehab program, I know we [1:44:04] also have some [1:44:05] money from I see dbj which is [1:44:05] the community development block [1:44:08] grant that residents would [1:44:11] still be able to [1:44:12] apply for absent that they [1:44:15] would have to apply through the [1:44:16] state program. I say Florida [1:44:17] program there was a program [1:44:19] that we shared [1:44:20] air earlier. In the year for [1:44:25] seniors through the [1:44:26] area agency a Broward County [1:44:27] where that money for home [1:44:30] repairs for seniors in certain [1:44:31] qualifications and so residents [1:44:31] would have to turn to those [1:44:32] programs [1:44:34] for funding. [1:44:35] >> And one more just I want to [1:44:39] just touch [1:44:40] our discretionary funding just [1:44:41] a little bit. I leave the [1:44:43] conversation [1:44:44] by Sen, most of the time people [1:44:44] even as part of 70 that that [1:44:47] money is something that kind of [1:44:52] personally get. [1:44:53] But can you just explain the [1:44:53] discretionary and even history [1:44:56] out of the 1500 comes in [1:44:57] display that's a little bit for [1:45:03] everyone. So MISTER [1:45:04] >> that discretionary money was [1:45:04] originally part of the city's [1:45:07] waste Management contract. [1:45:08] To go all the way back into the [1:45:11] weeds they [1:45:12] had originally here Mark $7500 [1:45:13] to go towards events and it was [1:45:19] just a blanket term advance. [1:45:20] At the time. The prior [1:45:21] Commission not this commission. [1:45:23] I suffered go towards the [1:45:28] commission to use for. [1:45:29] District of and score to help [1:45:29] not-for-profits or other groups [1:45:37] and so that was the policy that [1:45:38] the commission established and [1:45:38] it has to be used for public [1:45:42] purpose. So you can't just help [1:45:42] somebody make a car payment or [1:45:43] you know by the refrigerator. [1:45:47] The money doesn't go to you all [1:45:48] if there is a formal process to [1:45:48] request the funding. It has to [1:45:53] be verified that the funding [1:45:58] needs the proper uses [1:45:58] has outlined and that the next [1:45:59] the last step would be that the [1:46:03] commissioner or the elected [1:46:04] official has the money still [1:46:05] available and then the money is [1:46:10] is is is provided. [1:46:11] >> So with propose giving us [1:46:12] the 5,000 to see we're going to [1:46:17] start a 500 and we spend a [1:46:17] student to 1500. MISTER Mayor [1:46:21] we still currently [1:46:22] still collect the $1500 7500 [1:46:23] from waste Management [1:46:26] so correct. [1:46:26] >> All right that's all my [1:46:27] questions from right now thank [1:46:29] you thank you commissioner, [1:46:30] thank city commissioner you're [1:46:33] recognized. [1:46:35] Thank you so much for [1:46:35] your time. I want to say thank [1:46:36] you to all the staff for such a [1:46:41] cruel presentation tonight. [1:46:41] Thank you. There's several [1:46:46] questions that [1:46:47] you have. We mentioned this [1:46:47] special event contract. What [1:46:52] exactly is that and do we have [1:46:53] an amount that we actually set [1:46:57] aside for the special events. [1:46:57] >> So this special event [1:47:01] contract was a [1:47:02] position that. Last budget year [1:47:02] the commission created a [1:47:08] special event person within [1:47:08] the parks and Recreation [1:47:09] department. That was turned [1:47:17] into a contract position. [1:47:18] And the goal or the vision is [1:47:19] that prior to that we had a [1:47:25] special event contract her son [1:47:25] that work on a percentage of an [1:47:26] event if they were planning a [1:47:31] $10,000 event for [1:47:32] the city. Their their costs was [1:47:35] 20%. So they MAY $2000. [1:47:36] And so and the goal is to about [1:47:44] $76,000 [1:47:44] is too eliminate $50,000 and it [1:47:45] goes towards. And then the [1:47:51] leaving the $26,000 for that. [1:47:51] 20% percentage. When special [1:47:52] events are when somebody is [1:47:55] needed to assess with a special [1:47:55] that whether it's a special [1:47:56] event that the commissioner [1:47:59] party on through their [1:48:00] discretionary funds for whether [1:48:01] it's a special grant that the [1:48:03] city is putting on okay. [1:48:07] >> Of the [1:48:08] actually I can because I think [1:48:08] there's a lot of events that we [1:48:13] to host. At City Hall that we [1:48:13] probably can look at. And also [1:48:17] MAY [1:48:18] be collaborating and because I [1:48:19] know what we do have these [1:48:23] events we have to [1:48:24] pay staff. Police going cetera, [1:48:24] so that's something we want to [1:48:27] look into. I would like to know [1:48:31] if there is a way of getting. [1:48:32] A contrast between these last [1:48:32] history for the last 2 years [1:48:36] versus now how much we've [1:48:37] actually spent from the [1:48:37] reserve. I would like to know [1:48:44] that and now I know a lot of [1:48:44] this is based on NOVEMBER 3rd [1:48:45] we have the property tax reform [1:48:52] right. [1:48:53] And so I know a lot will change [1:48:53] depending on how a vote to call [1:48:56] on NOVEMBER. [1:48:57] A 3rd. And thank you Steph so [1:48:57] much because over the years you [1:49:00] guys have don't pick a very [1:49:06] sleek budget. [1:49:07] And I want to say this I'm not [1:49:07] picking them. You know trying [1:49:11] to be this our ball tonight but [1:49:12] we need to understand as I see [1:49:13] that we do someone here. [1:49:17] You know taking content this is [1:49:17] not content this is real life [1:49:18] these are real residents and [1:49:21] what we put out there matters [1:49:22] right so we want to be very [1:49:22] very careful and [1:49:23] we're not trying to make this a [1:49:24] look a certain way because many [1:49:31] of us are concerned because [1:49:32] of course the economy has [1:49:32] changed. I mean like a lot of [1:49:35] the [1:49:35] residents today have kicks [1:49:36] budget civic So we would just [1:49:39] want to make sure that whatever [1:49:40] we put out on [1:49:41] social media that is actually [1:49:42] showing exactly what's [1:49:47] happening in this home tonight. [1:49:47] I want to say that the other [1:49:54] thing is. [1:49:55] A lot of these you know event [1:49:55] and of course know the last [1:50:00] time we talked about because [1:50:01] I was blamed for something I [1:50:01] said on the days that could [1:50:04] prevent people from coming out [1:50:05] right. [1:50:06] When we have these events we [1:50:07] just want to make sure that [1:50:12] because historically speaking. [1:50:13] North lot of guys see this all [1:50:19] the time we're spoiled. [1:50:20] North Ogden isn't used certain [1:50:21] things and so we want to make [1:50:23] sure that he just makes sense. [1:50:27] And it was [1:50:28] the PRESIDENT That you know she [1:50:28] mentioned a certain time I'm [1:50:33] not going to reiterate, but you [1:50:34] mentioned, but we are look. [1:50:35] As that as far as I'm going to [1:50:38] go with that and so I think [1:50:38] there's a lot of things that we [1:50:42] can. [1:50:43] Look at because this and we've [1:50:44] been talking about this budget [1:50:49] for a while and so there's a [1:50:50] lot of things on here that I [1:50:50] think we can just kind of [1:50:55] spouting elaborate on as far as [1:50:56] spending where this money is [1:50:58] going what have we the [1:50:59] comparison again. From spending [1:51:00] from the last 3 years 4 years [1:51:05] the history and now how much [1:51:05] have we increase have heard [1:51:06] right you know when I came in [1:51:08] yes, we are looking to [1:51:09] decrease. But I have a problem [1:51:10] with some of the things that [1:51:14] we're trying to decrease France [1:51:15] because training and travel and [1:51:15] for our staff they need [1:51:18] training and in order to train [1:51:19] in these different areas they [1:51:19] need to travel so there's a lot [1:51:22] of things that I feel as if [1:51:23] this commission does not need [1:51:24] to is that it really does not [1:51:30] necessary and I think you can [1:51:30] go back to the drawing ball and [1:51:31] look at this a little too again [1:51:37] thank the staff of such a great [1:51:38] But I do think that we can do [1:51:38] better and again I know that we [1:51:44] are. We have a sleek budget. [1:51:45] We cannot compare ourselves to [1:51:46] coral Springs or any other the [1:51:50] sister cities around us, [1:51:51] however there has been a lot is [1:51:51] coming these past a couple [1:51:54] years that my opinion and [1:51:54] because of Paxon talking to [1:51:55] staff as well. I don't feel it [1:51:57] was necessary. Thank you so [1:52:01] much. [1:52:01] Thank you any other [1:52:07] commissioner. [1:52:08] The chair recognizes that [1:52:13] commissioner. Thank you. [1:52:14] >> Finance and all the [1:52:14] departments that are involved [1:52:17] in this budget done and we have [1:52:17] worked didn't really take you [1:52:24] for a [1:52:25] long time. And this same to [1:52:26] Martin made a point that I [1:52:28] completely agree with as it [1:52:29] relates to recreational trail [1:52:30] because for trend is very [1:52:32] important that the staff knows [1:52:36] what they're [1:52:37] doing that. They're dealing [1:52:38] with children and the safety of [1:52:44] children that the laws are very [1:52:45] strict as it relates to [1:52:45] children so I would like to see [1:52:50] that time so [1:52:51] funds but put back in where [1:52:52] they can at training and [1:53:01] seminars [1:53:01] increase in it so that they [1:53:02] stop I'm you know get exactly [1:53:07] what they need to get so my [1:53:07] proposal as it relates to all [1:53:12] this is that [1:53:12] we as commissioners and Mayor [1:53:13] we have a duty to the city to [1:53:17] the residence and everyone is [1:53:18] feeling the pinch is hard for [1:53:18] everyone so I recommend that [1:53:27] we're going to show to be [1:53:28] should give up back 5% off our [1:53:29] Saturday to have to balance the [1:53:35] budget. I'm hoping that. [1:53:36] Although other MS. See this as [1:53:41] some way we can help. [1:53:41] Our residents. I hope everybody [1:53:53] agrees with that I agree [1:53:54] you don't Commission ought us [1:53:54] of ice cream if you have [1:53:55] anything to say [1:53:57] yes please. [1:54:02] >> Yeah, you're a [1:54:02] I just want to say the mill [1:54:03] rate. I would like to propose [1:54:10] to to to to to keep us one 0.4. [1:54:11] Set to roll in oils because [1:54:11] like I speak with the but if [1:54:19] the residents and. And not know [1:54:20] what is happy at all you know [1:54:20] if we go up one point. Well, [1:54:27] that if we go up a percent. [1:54:27] 7 points. 6, 5, It's going to [1:54:36] be but a $100. Her. [1:54:37] Every resident. Based on [1:54:42] $400,000. So. Out there. [1:54:43] The people to not be at all if [1:54:44] we go if we move that number at [1:54:51] all so. [1:54:51] We we I understand I've been [1:54:52] living here the city for almost [1:54:55] 40 years. [1:54:56] 40 years and I understand I [1:54:57] mean I understand the residents [1:55:02] and I talked to a lot of [1:55:03] residents of them and and I [1:55:04] believe we should move that [1:55:07] number that [1:55:08] >> it's been a $100. I'm a [1:55:13] year. [1:55:13] >> Base it on 400,000 others [1:55:20] doing you know property. [1:55:20] Everybody spoken out them and [1:55:21] see Thank you very MISTER [1:55:23] Manager. [1:55:30] What is the [1:55:31] approximate revenue difference [1:55:32] between 7.6 500 males. And the [1:55:34] 7.4. [1:55:40] Sure if all that's [1:55:41] on us and if the commission [1:55:42] were to adopt 7.4 tonight. [1:55:47] What adjustments would be [1:55:47] necessary. MISTER Mayor this [1:55:47] slide [1:55:50] before you. [1:55:57] >> Shows that [1:55:58] 7.4 Mills. All right, we would [1:55:59] collect 19 million 965 compared [1:56:02] to 20.6 million. So we would [1:56:08] collect. Alright, 600,000 loss. [1:56:08] It would using today's budget [1:56:09] right and if we cut nothing us [1:56:14] out of the budget. It [1:56:14] would require use of $674,000 [1:56:15] out of fund balance in order to [1:56:21] give you a balanced budget. [1:56:21] If the direction from the [1:56:22] commission tonight is to roll [1:56:27] the budget from 6 7.6 5 to 7.4. [1:56:28] The next question we would ask [1:56:29] is where are you comfortable [1:56:35] with use of fund balance. [1:56:36] So that we can finalize and [1:56:36] give you back a budget at the [1:56:40] end SEPTEMBER are you okay with [1:56:41] the $675,000 do you want that [1:56:46] lowered. [1:56:47] It requires because this is [1:56:48] going to require forfeits note [1:56:51] of the elected officials and so [1:56:51] I'd like to get that as well so [1:56:52] that when we give you the [1:56:56] budget when we meet again on [1:56:57] SEPTEMBER 28th. We're giving [1:57:01] you exactly what you want. [1:57:02] >> Okay, yeah, I understand [1:57:02] that we can't just look at cuts [1:57:07] like to see I know that [1:57:08] government. Should be able [1:57:15] first look carefully at. [1:57:16] Efficiencies expenditures in [1:57:17] attendance and revenues. [1:57:21] Before asking reason to. [1:57:22] Before we go to that direction. [1:57:23] So with that said there's so [1:57:27] many other options to tell you [1:57:28] would like to explore to see [1:57:28] how can you can get it got to [1:57:31] get that done. [1:57:36] Because I really support [1:57:37] the what the vice mayor [1:57:39] mansion, upper 7 quick [1:57:40] for males. But while we still [1:57:40] maintain essential services [1:57:44] that we need and directed at [1:57:50] mistress to bring us. Balanced [1:57:50] budget consistent with that [1:57:51] rate and finance outside social [1:57:54] resources, does it sit there. [1:57:55] And we've got time to to do [1:58:00] that. [1:58:05] I heard the presentation. [1:58:06] Ice here I see the numbers with [1:58:10] the show here. [1:58:11] And most importantly we heard [1:58:12] from the resident, we and not [1:58:15] just tonight, but with before [1:58:15] and that's what explained we [1:58:16] have a lot of presence here and [1:58:18] then I'm [1:58:19] good at people heading up us to [1:58:20] hear to understand too that [1:58:22] everybody and said it was going [1:58:23] on, but to understand the role [1:58:28] of everyone. [1:58:29] And I know the city important [1:58:29] obligations in port and [1:58:38] projects that we have ahead [1:58:39] of us. One of the page was [1:58:40] showing a other PRESIDENT That [1:58:43] expense to that on the budget [1:58:44] was the someone has a question [1:58:45] about that all these need to be [1:58:48] answered. [1:58:49] And we still must continue [1:58:50] providing public safety. [1:58:58] Infrastructure that is very [1:58:59] important. The parks. A program [1:59:03] for youth and seniors. The U.S. [1:59:04] Is services. Before I move on [1:59:10] to the motion that I just want [1:59:10] to know how 1, 1, when [1:59:11] PRESIDENT Mission that area. [1:59:17] How did we get from. [1:59:17] I believe 40,000 to 60,000 foot [1:59:23] par Casey pardon to 200,000. [1:59:24] For the landings to go all [1:59:25] which is up to 2 minute do I [1:59:27] don't understand that. If we [1:59:33] can get that response first. [1:59:34] >> Sure let landings Park is a [1:59:35] grant that the city applied for [1:59:42] it is federal land and water [1:59:42] conservation fund Grant. [1:59:45] And our match for background. [1:59:46] It's a it was a 3 million [1:59:51] dollar grant if we get [1:59:52] the grant. Our share of that [1:59:52] will 50% so we would pay 1.5 [1:59:57] million. And this state share [2:00:00] would be 1.5 million if there's [2:00:01] any overruns to the project it [2:00:02] would then come out of the [2:00:06] general fund for the city we [2:00:07] have to pay the additional [2:00:08] because it's you can't mandate. [2:00:16] Con you know great want to [2:00:16] apply for and so right now. [2:00:17] There's no money set aside in [2:00:19] the. Upcoming fiscal year for [2:00:20] that because we still have not [2:00:20] still have not got the [2:00:27] agreement says we've shared [2:00:27] with the commission from the [2:00:28] federal government so until we [2:00:31] get a contract. [2:00:32] 4 the City Attorney's Office to [2:00:37] review it for the commission to [2:00:38] enter into. That project is [2:00:38] just on the wish list, the [2:00:40] same. If you look down on that [2:00:41] initial also see have to point [2:00:42] Park is also a 3 million [2:00:47] dollar. The 3 million dollar [2:00:48] grant that again same thing [2:00:49] it's a landmark of ram one 0.5 [2:00:52] million from the federal [2:00:52] government. One 0.5 million [2:00:53] from the city and again that [2:00:57] one was awarded, but again we [2:00:57] haven't gotten the contract. [2:00:58] Yeah, and so those are still in [2:01:00] limbo as to whether or not we [2:01:00] will need or even got [2:01:01] contracts. From the federal [2:01:06] government for that we [2:01:06] certainly hope we do. But we [2:01:07] haven't gotten those contracts, [2:01:10] but those are not in. This [2:01:11] current year's or Tuesday. [2:01:12] They're not in the proposed [2:01:15] budget for next year. Those are [2:01:16] an outlier years because by the [2:01:17] time we get the contract enter [2:01:19] into it and then start going [2:01:19] out for bids. It will take a [2:01:20] whole year before all those [2:01:25] contracts could be awarded. [2:01:26] >> All right, thank you very [2:01:31] much now has [2:01:34] I'm going to make MAY has been [2:01:35] wrongly falsely accused of [2:01:40] raising taxes. [2:01:41] Rightfully so the mayor is [2:01:41] making make the motion there [2:01:51] I'm making a motion to amend [2:01:51] to propose operating millage [2:01:55] rate from 76 7.6. 500 to 7.4. [2:01:55] Males and approve the minutes [2:02:00] ordinance on first reading. [2:02:00] As amended and subject to all [2:02:01] required secretary calculation [2:02:07] and called for an amendment [2:02:07] MADAM Attorney could you [2:02:08] confirm if this a proper motion [2:02:09] please. [2:02:09] >> The motion is Popeye is just [2:02:17] changing. [2:02:18] >> The 3. Which was which we [2:02:29] read as at 7, 6, 5, Mills. [2:02:30] Or 7.6. 5 deals, you know put [2:02:31] $1000 of taxable excess [2:02:35] property value to 7.4 mil. [2:02:36] That would be the change that [2:02:36] would be noted by the city [2:02:39] clerk okay. [2:02:40] >> If it's yes his second okay, [2:02:41] thank you MADAM Clerk, the real [2:02:43] culprits. [2:02:50] >> Commissioner Martin. [2:02:50] >> Through the chair, yes but [2:02:55] what Matt the proposed by [2:02:55] she's as yes we're not finding [2:02:56] here matter fighting this and [2:02:58] just want to make sure that [2:03:01] this is. [2:03:02] You know done appropriately [2:03:02] because I I heard that me ask [2:03:05] me as hold on hold on to them. [2:03:09] Yes. [2:03:10] Vice mayor we're not out here [2:03:11] what I would not have to divide [2:03:12] ourselves and what we are here [2:03:12] for weeks about credit anything [2:03:15] right here. [2:03:22] >> We're here to do the [2:03:22] right thing. Vice mayor took [2:03:23] holes, but he did not see never [2:03:24] said a motion he said take it [2:03:24] right we're on the same page it [2:03:25] doesn't matter much if you want [2:03:27] to if you want to make the [2:03:28] motion go ahead, it doesn't [2:03:29] matter what makes [2:03:30] the motion because what it's [2:03:31] about is want to reduce it from [2:03:37] I could even go lower than that [2:03:37] it doesn't matter who makes a [2:03:38] motion. The motion is to be [2:03:42] with a man did I just made an [2:03:43] amendment to that simple were [2:03:43] on the same page now we are [2:03:46] honest we also want to [2:03:47] make sure this is fine by him [2:03:48] that's fine let's be on the [2:03:49] same page just that this year [2:03:50] we're on the same page is just [2:03:57] because I sing kind of 57 here. [2:03:57] >> And I would make sure that [2:03:58] content. What is being said and [2:04:01] done here is is is the [2:04:01] language. The energy everything [2:04:02] that residents are being safe [2:04:03] who they are and we're not [2:04:03] trying to put content out here [2:04:04] trying to make it seem like [2:04:07] it's something else. So that's [2:04:13] all. [2:04:14] >> MADAM Clerk, the motion has [2:04:15] been more in second in the [2:04:19] general coast thank you. [2:04:19] Commissioner said, yes of [2:04:20] course. Commissioner goes for [2:04:25] cuts, yes. Vice mayor [2:04:26] Bustamante yes. Commissioner [2:04:27] Louis, yes, and Mayor board [2:04:40] tonight. Yes. Motion passes. [2:04:41] >> We will now move Percy to [2:04:43] item 3. [2:04:44] >> To the chair, you are [2:04:45] recognized to have to make a [2:04:54] motion about a 5% decrease. [2:04:54] If you choose so I met him at [2:04:55] a. When you say how are we [2:04:59] that. I. [2:05:00] And that's to come back to [2:05:01] another but the thing I I [2:05:07] believe that it's probably more [2:05:07] appropriate in the budget yes [2:05:08] was in the military right okay, [2:05:11] okay, so you can reserve that [2:05:11] and presented them okay, thank [2:05:21] you all right take a vacation. [2:05:21] That takes us to it is 7, 7, [2:05:22] Will proceed to item 3 b. [2:05:27] Yes, the first reading. [2:05:27] And ordinance of the city [2:05:28] Commission of the city of North [2:05:30] Lauderdale Florida. [2:05:34] Adopting the attached [2:05:35] annual budget. The city of [2:05:35] North Florida deal for that [2:05:40] period beginning [2:05:41] OCTOBER 1st 2026 and ending [2:05:41] SEPTEMBER 30th 2027, providing [2:05:46] full budget for the general [2:05:46] fund special revenue funds. [2:05:47] Capital project fund enterprise [2:05:54] fund and internal service fund. [2:05:55] Allocating appropriating in [2:05:57] authorizing expenses in [2:05:57] accordance with and so for the [2:05:58] purposes stated in that budget. [2:06:03] Providing full millage rate. [2:06:03] Providing for severability [2:06:04] providing for conflict and [2:06:13] providing an effective date. [2:06:14] City manager like and his [2:06:14] present make sure there is [2:06:17] going to present it to them and [2:06:17] explain any adjustment [2:06:22] necessary to. [2:06:23] >> Make the budget consistent [2:06:23] with them in a tree that so [2:06:26] great because evening again [2:06:27] MISTER Mayor members of the [2:06:31] commission employees or [2:06:32] >> with the approval of the [2:06:32] commission tonight to reduce [2:06:35] the budget to 7.4 Mills. [2:06:41] We will work over the [2:06:42] next week. Week and a half to [2:06:43] prepare a revised budget for [2:06:47] you. That look shot potentially [2:06:47] additional revenue sources as [2:06:48] well as additional programs or [2:06:55] projects that could be pushed [2:06:56] on the road a lot of that could [2:06:57] be eliminated to give you a [2:07:01] balanced budget at 7.4 Mills. [2:07:02] I would just show you that. [2:07:06] The [2:07:07] budget itself. Wright is an [2:07:08] increase of 3.1% if you look at [2:07:15] all [2:07:15] the farms. And we will go [2:07:16] through that 100 and. [2:07:21] 61 million dollar budget. [2:07:22] And we will find ways to reduce [2:07:23] to bring you back a balanced [2:07:27] budget at 7.44 miles. [2:07:35] >> Okay we won't. [2:07:36] Yeah when you want it necessary [2:07:37] any additional time for tonight [2:07:39] to numbers again with no [2:07:40] certainty that would just be [2:07:40] approving the ordinance [2:07:43] first reading. [2:07:44] >> and then it will come back [2:07:45] to you again for second reading [2:07:46] that will [2:07:47] be revised to meet the new [2:07:47] millage rate that you gave okay [2:07:50] all right and potentially new [2:07:52] assessments [2:07:53] as well because the budget [2:07:54] covers everything so sure [2:07:58] depending on what you do an [2:07:59] assessment tonight as well that [2:07:59] will be the final item that [2:08:02] comes back to you. Okay. [2:08:10] >> All right [2:08:10] we've got to have that present [2:08:11] position right now right. [2:08:14] It will you just a. Yeah. [2:08:18] The idea is that the. [2:08:19] >> The budget that was being [2:08:20] proposed to you is subject to [2:08:25] the vision because of the [2:08:26] changes you MAY right right so [2:08:26] for it would be moved on first [2:08:29] reading. [2:08:30] With the adjustments to be made [2:08:31] so that [2:08:32] second meeting you could have a [2:08:32] better leave you wouldn't know [2:08:36] for sure what's included in the [2:08:37] budget so this is just a [2:08:37] building so that we could move [2:08:42] to the second reading but not [2:08:42] a moving the budget because of [2:08:43] the pledge is incorrect and [2:08:45] will be adjusted between now in [2:08:49] second meeting. [2:08:49] >> Right but so my question [2:08:50] right now the assistant we're [2:08:51] going to discuss second [2:08:53] right now. [2:08:54] >> The assessment is is yes [2:09:00] we're going to go on to it. [2:09:00] When we get to 4 a right but [2:09:01] for. [2:09:03] >> The b. [2:09:04] >> It's just going to move it [2:09:04] to the second meeting second of [2:09:07] it until the second meeting [2:09:11] like you get [2:09:12] a a details okay at this time [2:09:16] you have the floor for 4. [2:09:17] If we're moving the edge and [2:09:18] make a motion that okay that's [2:09:24] fine. Can you get a motion [2:09:33] Treating with amendments. [2:09:33] We're going to lose that first [2:09:34] meeting knowing that the second [2:09:37] meeting will have and so that [2:09:41] they should change to [2:09:42] It so that's what that was the [2:09:43] motion second second ok. [2:09:45] Any question comments have been [2:09:46] none MADAM Clerk, the world [2:09:47] will face. [2:09:54] Commissioner Martin. [2:09:55] >> Yes commissioner, those for [2:09:56] the s vice mayor Bustamante a [2:10:01] yes. Commissioner [2:10:01] Louis yes, airport time, yes, [2:10:05] many of the floor. [2:10:13] >> Commission [2:10:13] >> dv it's we need to go it's [2:10:14] Rick. The Lewis leak. We need [2:10:17] to go. Back to you issue MAY [2:10:21] be. At [2:10:22] this time. We passed the legit [2:10:23] subject to certain changes. [2:10:33] Maybe you want to now say for [2:10:34] another amendment. I'd like to [2:10:34] act. Propose you want to say [2:10:40] what [2:10:40] I want I like making a motion [2:10:41] that the budget was turns to be [2:10:50] amended to include. [2:10:51] I wasn't hahaha center got to [2:10:51] the commission is. You need to [2:10:54] 6 seconds. [2:10:59] Has some stuff into that. [2:11:00] And the question in the [2:11:00] comments comments please. [2:11:05] Recognized. Thank you. Also [2:11:07] question about the events that [2:11:07] we've been having Comaneci [2:11:09] that's what kind of like add-on [2:11:12] that we really don't have a [2:11:13] lot of residents that come out [2:11:13] to events in the last event we [2:11:16] had city manager Mike you know [2:11:19] tonight. [2:11:20] Just thinking, okay okay so the [2:11:21] last one we did have, I mean [2:11:25] we're negative like $50,000. [2:11:26] I believe so is there any way [2:11:31] that we can. [2:11:31] Cut back on these extra events [2:11:32] come having on a monthly basis [2:11:36] because that's including staff. [2:11:36] Police and all this other stuff [2:11:37] we have and I think that also [2:11:49] helped about it. [2:11:51] >> So I'm sure if you can go to [2:11:51] that slide that was though [2:11:53] those were one of the one of [2:11:54] the events that are one of the [2:11:55] items that is not yet in the [2:11:57] budget so no action is really [2:12:08] needed on that at this time. [2:12:10] That number. [2:12:10] >> So it's a below the [2:12:11] feasibility study for special [2:12:17] projects series of quarterly [2:12:18] events there that's a $100,000 [2:12:19] that's not included in [2:12:22] the budget. [2:12:23] >> He said as a 100,000 to [2:12:32] $1000 not including not it. [2:12:33] So attorney what what what I [2:12:34] have I am to make sure that at [2:12:36] this time. So it is not in the [2:12:37] budget. You don't need to make [2:12:40] a motion [2:12:41] on okay. What you would do is [2:12:41] look at the budget when it [2:12:42] comes back and second-leading [2:12:43] in the second meeting it now is [2:12:46] included in the budget. [2:12:46] >> You could make a motion at [2:12:52] that time. [2:12:53] >> And we also gate Ortiz into [2:12:53] my c a manager. How much we've [2:12:56] been sitting and spinning on [2:12:59] these events please. [2:13:00] We'll send it to everybody [2:13:02] thank you. [2:13:06] The chat. [2:13:06] >> You're recognize what we're [2:13:11] talking making some cuts. [2:13:12] I'm going to go in the mind [2:13:13] acts of [2:13:14] potential e I know it's going [2:13:14] to that contrary to the cause [2:13:20] you know estimates question [2:13:20] area. One in one month. But [2:13:21] maybe potentially cutting it in [2:13:23] half and could not travel and [2:13:35] have to. [2:13:36] Total so that's 5,000 to 2500 [2:13:37] cut our travel down. From these [2:13:39] 2000. I 1000. 12 town. We cut [2:13:45] it again. [2:13:46] We don't travel as much as no [2:13:47] more so and I second that [2:13:50] motion. [2:13:51] Okay so the motion in the [2:13:56] motion. [2:13:56] I know we have a motion that [2:13:57] Boston was adding on that what [2:14:00] was doing that. [2:14:00] Do want to pass first motion [2:14:12] then the second. [2:14:13] >> The cutting. Travel is for [2:14:13] the for you. The commission for [2:14:15] the commission right. I [2:14:16] believe that she passed the [2:14:17] first one 1st I'm just going [2:14:25] through that. Logic so we had [2:14:25] a motion. The motion was so [2:14:26] cool and proceeding knowing [2:14:28] that going to [2:14:29] make adjustments in the second [2:14:29] meeting and I believe that what [2:14:37] is really going on now is that [2:14:38] >> the commission is seats [2:14:39] seeking to direct the city [2:14:43] manager with respect to [2:14:43] what specific. Reductions [2:14:44] should be made. We made it as a [2:14:49] motion before Commission at the [2:14:50] Louis tickets. Made a motion to [2:14:55] reduce Commission salary. [2:14:56] It could have been just a [2:14:57] consensus that everybody agrees [2:15:00] to. [2:15:01] I think it's probably accurate [2:15:02] that's what we should do and [2:15:06] now you could continue. [2:15:06] Did you hear that it was really [2:15:07] a consensus not so much emotion [2:15:11] and over. And now you can [2:15:12] continue making these [2:15:13] recommendations directing the [2:15:17] city manager is. And [2:15:17] now you MAY 2 different ones [2:15:18] and one was you wanted to do [2:15:24] that the city manager. [2:15:25] The discretionary budget [2:15:26] impasse and for the commission [2:15:26] is and how commissioners and [2:15:27] half that's a direction do you [2:15:28] have it you you MAY have to [2:15:30] determine whether you have a [2:15:38] consensus for that. [2:15:42] Convocation to. [2:15:43] >> We have put it if they have [2:15:43] cut the discussion or funds [2:15:51] from 10 to 5. [2:15:51] Try to cut it again so you want [2:15:52] to go to to 2,500 us one 2nd [2:15:54] one second what well to kind of [2:15:55] speak please I listen to your [2:15:58] on even from [2:15:59] 6 o'clock 5 o'clock and I just [2:16:07] have some respect [2:16:07] thank you, I'm just trying to [2:16:08] clarify from 5,000 to 2,500 but [2:16:13] that does not include a lot of [2:16:14] 1500 that we got before are the [2:16:14] 8,000 from waste Management [2:16:17] that's divided up among 5. [2:16:19] >> Can you just clarify so we [2:16:20] know exactly and what exactly [2:16:21] they're cutting. Thank you so [2:16:23] much so that the 1500 that we [2:16:26] get from. [2:16:26] >> Could be included so I guess [2:16:35] we just get an extra [2:16:36] young said no no so we get 1500 [2:16:36] right okay and then we're [2:16:41] adding said and 3500. [2:16:41] Because it just 15 bucks for [2:16:47] the final time. 1000. [2:16:47] 1535 to 85. Yes, I'm just [2:16:48] trying to I'm just trying to do [2:16:51] said only half. So $1500,000 [2:16:54] from. [2:16:55] Better yet. But we just get rid [2:16:55] of the extra money just to [2:16:56] 1500. [2:16:57] >> Okay yeah, I mean this is [2:16:58] something there and say [2:17:04] something are we spending our [2:17:04] time looking at. Yes, $5,000 [2:17:08] 5,000 use [2:17:08] 1000 there where is the big [2:17:09] issue. The elephant nobody [2:17:12] wants to talk about [2:17:13] this team. I mean it's just [2:17:14] hold up What I want to make [2:17:17] sure I want to make sure I make [2:17:17] sure you understand what's [2:17:18] going on here we're talking [2:17:23] about cuts. What about big [2:17:24] projects there. Nobody is [2:17:25] looking at those. This really [2:17:32] make a difference. After we've [2:17:32] done tonight. Cutting a 5,010 [2:17:33] 1000. We still going to be the [2:17:39] worst in the same position. [2:17:39] We never move never moved the [2:17:40] needle at all. So so let's set [2:17:43] this and I watch it for if we [2:17:44] want to first where one of. [2:17:45] But the direction we can when [2:17:48] we were there. But we still [2:17:52] missed the boat. Yes we're [2:17:52] talking about millions of [2:17:53] dollars and move to cut to be [2:17:59] cut what is 10,050 1001 to [2:18:00] nothing. The second reason is [2:18:00] this for real and this is why [2:18:05] this is why this is why. [2:18:06] I have proposed. That we had a [2:18:14] citizen. [2:18:15] Budget Matthew community. [2:18:15] We have on the citizen here in [2:18:20] the city to sit on the [2:18:20] committee to say exactly like a [2:18:21] pizza where you want you to [2:18:23] every cent tax [2:18:24] dollars go to spend in and we [2:18:24] didn't have that we still have [2:18:26] to do that and I'm going to [2:18:27] need them to Commission for not [2:18:28] doing their job and the [2:18:30] administration also step [2:18:35] because it was. [2:18:36] This is citizen would be behind [2:18:36] the wheel safe for the whole [2:18:40] year where and when it cut and [2:18:41] removed it would have been [2:18:42] sitting here discussing 5,000 [2:18:44] think think 1000 that would [2:18:44] have been really be be where we [2:18:45] need to be and we still can do [2:18:49] it. But it's what I want to say [2:18:50] this be serious about it. [2:18:50] I would just cutting full [2:18:53] cutting or just cutting [2:18:53] responsibly where we need to [2:18:57] make some adjustment. [2:18:57] That's all I'm going to say I'm [2:18:58] not going go any further than [2:19:02] that left at we have enough [2:19:02] time to do it, let's go ahead [2:19:03] only suggesting because I I [2:19:08] believe that we start cutting [2:19:09] the rest will follow not just [2:19:10] the I just I just said that I [2:19:12] said please please please [2:19:13] >> I'm going to set some could [2:19:18] expertise. [2:19:18] We do not keep applause at this [2:19:19] point but otherwise we have to [2:19:23] do it for everything this [2:19:23] is a. We say thing business [2:19:24] serious that's all it is okay [2:19:25] appreciate that. So I'm I'm [2:19:26] just I'm not a guess I'm not [2:19:27] against it that's good. I just [2:19:31] want to make sure we really [2:19:32] see that that's what the job is [2:19:36] for the city [2:19:36] is there to do a job propose [2:19:37] those cuts different we can [2:19:40] still [2:19:40] do it. But let's make sure [2:19:41] we've cut the big chunk of that [2:19:44] money to we need to get it [2:19:45] everywhere. Across the city. [2:19:45] And they will accompany [2:19:48] something valuable. That's what [2:19:53] I'm going to say. [2:19:53] If it's when it comes to [2:19:54] salary. I can even work for [2:19:56] free that's not my that's [2:19:57] my issue but this address the [2:19:57] big issues that we have [2:20:00] flooding issues we have things [2:20:00] that wet big project that [2:20:02] there. [2:20:03] There's a thing we need to [2:20:03] touch with those with big [2:20:07] salaries. We have a position [2:20:08] vacancies we have no project a [2:20:08] project that could await some [2:20:14] some some let's look at those [2:20:15] also. Let's look at those in [2:20:19] reality that's all. [2:20:20] Ok I'm in it and that's fine. [2:20:21] Yes, yes, you're recognized [2:20:24] because we're seeing a lot of [2:20:25] time and looking at that's why [2:20:26] we have department just what [2:20:27] that could look want to say [2:20:28] something about the savings [2:20:28] worth of them about the [2:20:31] $10,000. [2:20:35] >> You know if we're going to [2:20:36] whenever we have to cut you [2:20:36] know save some money if it's a [2:20:39] it's a 10,000 others, it was [2:20:43] acceptable cents better. [2:20:44] House. What what do you what [2:20:45] we're going to do with $0.62. [2:20:49] The House nothing. I mean [2:20:50] really is not so I mean I don't [2:20:52] know what we're doing here. [2:20:53] It is not the bottom like the [2:20:54] mayor said we've got to be [2:21:01] responsible for them with the [2:21:02] money. Many of the if I say [2:21:02] that I want to save a 1000 [2:21:07] miles from home. [2:21:08] It's okay. I like to to you [2:21:08] know the rest will have a money [2:21:10] to pay the bills. I [2:21:11] like that. You know we got to [2:21:12] be responsible with them a nice [2:21:14] really you know cause I hear [2:21:18] this guy. [2:21:19] And they they help you get a a [2:21:25] 100,000 or more per. [2:21:25] Building. It is crazy. We got [2:21:28] to [2:21:29] you know what I'm working for [2:21:32] the flu and residents really. [2:21:33] I know we've got to do [2:21:33] something about we've got to [2:21:38] work on that we've got to save [2:21:38] money on taxes somehow [2:21:39] somewhere. I don't know, I mean [2:21:42] I'm not I don't know how to [2:21:48] love those things. [2:21:49] You know we I mean we can do [2:21:49] something about up here. [2:21:53] Against that. [2:21:54] Where is of thing big money on [2:21:55] taxes. But I don't know how to [2:22:00] do that. [2:22:01] So we've got to get help from [2:22:02] from a a it is tough really to [2:22:07] the chair. [2:22:08] >> There you go ok, yes, your [2:22:11] hunt, Vice mayor. [2:22:12] However, when will connect [2:22:12] country we have to I mean this [2:22:17] is the expertise off the city [2:22:18] mind you just that 50 finance [2:22:18] people when we're called to [2:22:21] have to make sure that this [2:22:25] that the residents don't. [2:22:26] We don't shortchange the [2:22:26] residents for what needs to [2:22:32] keep the city going but I do [2:22:33] agree that we have to look. [2:22:33] i mean we look at the pace we [2:22:39] need to look at the pounds so [2:22:39] thank you so much for being [2:22:40] with each other homes well, you [2:22:46] know an outcast you're [2:22:47] recognized Commission 1000 most [2:22:47] in most sectors, 16 or $0.60 [2:22:50] for all which is not okay, [2:22:50] you're recognized. Thank you so [2:22:58] much mayor. [2:22:59] Every penny does count and to [2:23:00] to hear this commission says [2:23:00] looking at a little here a [2:23:04] little there. [2:23:05] >> Now that adds up. It really [2:23:08] does as we have to stop. [2:23:09] I'm blaming or shifting the [2:23:11] blame right. [2:23:12] Where will say things like you [2:23:12] know to bring the commission [2:23:18] and we're going to MISS That [2:23:19] staff has their job and the [2:23:19] commission also get your job. [2:23:24] But what I found out over. [2:23:24] You know that the 2 terms that [2:23:25] I've been here he's a lot of my [2:23:32] residents are very. Spectacle [2:23:39] But just it thank you. [2:23:39] O I doing anything here because [2:23:40] when they come here and they [2:23:41] speak their mind. [2:23:42] They are free to join the thing [2:23:43] that we're doing because they [2:23:49] feel like this commission tends [2:23:50] to believe them. All right and [2:23:50] this is not here say this is [2:23:54] the [2:23:55] type of emails and messages I [2:23:56] get in my in boxes from [2:24:03] residents that are watching [2:24:04] our live. Sessions here okay [2:24:10] and so. [2:24:11] As a leader we take [2:24:11] accountability and the truth [2:24:15] is. This commission. [2:24:16] Have spontaneously out of the [2:24:16] blue we putting things together [2:24:20] we've done certain things right [2:24:21] and that has cost us and we [2:24:25] have to [2:24:25] take responsibility. I'm not [2:24:26] blaming anyone but I'm saying [2:24:28] we must take responsibility [2:24:29] and I know the previous [2:24:30] commission a lot of things that [2:24:33] we're dealing with now is [2:24:33] because the previous commission [2:24:34] didn't make certain changes. [2:24:41] But now that we're here and [2:24:42] we're making a change I would [2:24:42] love to see right leadership [2:24:46] stop blaming the ship or stop [2:24:46] sec shifting the blame and take [2:24:47] responsibility. Thank you so [2:24:52] much. [2:24:58] Commissioner [2:24:59] it was a consistent word time [2:25:00] trying to figure that right. [2:25:05] Correct yes. [2:25:05] >> The idea is that since we [2:25:06] don't have a resolution or [2:25:07] anything [2:25:08] like that. I believe the [2:25:09] directives regarding what can [2:25:14] be reduced. If you have a [2:25:15] consensus you could Hawaii that [2:25:17] detective to the city [2:25:18] manager has there will be [2:25:19] adjustments made you're going [2:25:22] to go through what they're [2:25:23] going to make adjustments in [2:25:24] light of the 7.4 millage rate. [2:25:26] But. [2:25:27] While they're doing that they [2:25:27] should consider the specific [2:25:32] things that you guys having [2:25:33] been up so the directive from [2:25:37] the commission that was. [2:25:38] Commissioner Louis had had a [2:25:42] directive about. [2:25:43] We wanted to try to see if he [2:25:46] could get consensus and. [2:25:48] I think this question every [2:25:49] fund interest. Thank those that [2:25:49] do this one so they just keep [2:25:55] them separate case, everybody [2:25:55] doesn't agree. So do the action [2:26:00] on the. [2:26:04] Is that the travel. A [2:26:05] discretionary fund and what is [2:26:06] this number that you wanted to [2:26:08] propose and to say it should [2:26:12] should we do it [2:26:12] >> proponents like that with my [2:26:13] kind of are you doing now I see [2:26:17] it when it cut in half. So [2:26:23] 5,000 to 2500. Yes, so just. [2:26:24] >> The extreme give sorry [2:26:25] services for which item. [2:26:30] Of that just discretion or in [2:26:31] general. I think it's a system [2:26:32] that just you know get this is [2:26:36] a tough. [2:26:40] Okay [2:26:41] and that's just something that [2:26:42] can be be a complete tonight on [2:26:44] because we don't you know I can [2:26:51] always come being that [2:26:51] that too bring back the and it [2:26:52] is for as far as the traveling. [2:26:55] I mean I'll be a agree with [2:26:58] that except except [2:26:59] except those who do not travel [2:26:59] this far we look at what those [2:27:03] travel for purpose to find the [2:27:03] source for the city. I don't [2:27:04] see any reason why should [2:27:10] prevent them from going there [2:27:11] for him. Conference in training [2:27:12] find a recent for the city. [2:27:13] It could be in [2:27:14] the individual. Those who do [2:27:14] not travel that's fine this [2:27:17] perfect little bit. Simple as [2:27:18] that and to the [2:27:21] term here. [2:27:22] >> Yes, Europe because of so [2:27:23] city does that also follow the [2:27:26] recommendations put the event [2:27:27] as well so we'll talk about [2:27:27] that next time you could not do [2:27:31] that. [2:27:32] >> You can talk about all of it [2:27:32] next time if you could look at [2:27:35] it more closely and see what he [2:27:35] that you want. But right now [2:27:36] the event tonight in the budget [2:27:39] right. Should they come into [2:27:39] the budget then you could get [2:27:40] you know directive about that. [2:27:50] Well you can exit it evolved. [2:27:50] Right now there are 2 issues in [2:27:51] it looks like the only directed [2:27:56] that on right now that's been [2:27:57] established by the commission. [2:27:59] It's the directive. [2:28:00] Toledo's salary Commission [2:28:01] Sally's or 5% other than that [2:28:03] you don't have a consensus, it [2:28:04] seems to me and anyone of good [2:28:05] luck [2:28:09] to you. [2:28:09] >> You don't have a cause we'll [2:28:15] bring it because he's so yeah. [2:28:15] >> So now I'm going to be what [2:28:16] the mayor had asked me to be [2:28:17] witches. [2:28:23] For a. [2:28:24] >> So if the bees that voted on [2:28:30] yet the city clerk points out. [2:28:30] Ok could you make the motion [2:28:31] clear for all to of the session [2:28:34] was made by commissioner can [2:28:34] really hear that motion was [2:28:35] made by commissioner Louis for [2:28:40] cuts to approve. [2:28:41] >> Item 3 p with amendments and [2:28:41] it was seconded by commissioner [2:28:46] Mark. [2:28:47] Okay come back. The roll [2:28:51] call please. [2:28:51] >> Commissioner Martin yes [2:28:52] commissioner Louis crickets [2:28:56] yes, vice mayor Bustamante [2:28:56] commissioner Louis yes, airport [2:28:59] and yes. [2:29:00] 07:31am attorney you have the [2:29:08] floor these. [2:29:15] Goodman and 10. [2:29:16] >> I just what I just pointed [2:29:17] out that the city clerk that [2:29:17] it's it [2:29:18] was approved that with [2:29:18] amendment because we don't have [2:29:22] specific amendments. But it [2:29:23] was approved with with the [2:29:24] directive that in second [2:29:28] meeting at the put back we phys [2:29:29] to come. To to conform to the [2:29:32] elite 8. [2:29:36] Item 4 a. [2:29:36] That solution of the city [2:29:37] Commission of the city of North [2:29:39] Lauderdale Florida relating to [2:29:40] the provision of fire rescue [2:29:41] services facilities and [2:29:45] programs in the city of North [2:29:46] Lauderdale Florida and posing [2:29:46] fire assessments against [2:29:51] assessed property located [2:29:52] within the city of North [2:29:53] Lauderdale. The fiscal year [2:29:56] beginning OCTOBER one [2:29:57] 2026. Approving the lead of [2:29:57] assessment approving the [2:30:00] assessment roll providing for [2:30:01] conflicts, providing for [2:30:01] severability and providing for [2:30:05] an effective date. [2:30:07] Was ready. [2:30:07] >> See measures go into the [2:30:08] upper station please. MISTER [2:30:12] Mayor are project manager will [2:30:13] walk you through that. Fire [2:30:14] assessment numbers and then [2:30:17] fire rescue will give a free [2:30:18] presentation as well thank you. [2:30:47] That meant. [2:30:47] >> All regarding the firearm [2:30:57] proposed budget for fiscal year [2:30:57] 2027. The budget itself is a [2:31:01] 15 million 565 391. [2:31:02] $1000 budget. Essentially the [2:31:09] budget is [2:31:10] balanced through approval if [2:31:10] that isn't a night of [2:31:18] assessment revenues to the [2:31:18] single family home and of $650 [2:31:19] or the multi-family to 976. [2:31:25] So that initially now would [2:31:26] generate revenues if approved [2:31:31] at 12 million 500 and 10 [2:31:31] 6, 6, 5, In addition to that [2:31:32] there's other revenues as [2:31:40] proposed in this budget which [2:31:41] totals you know 1 1 million 800 [2:31:41] and 92,513. So essentially [2:31:45] there a question that was [2:31:46] brought up by one of the [2:31:46] residents in regards to what [2:31:49] was transfer from the general [2:31:50] fund. So here it is shown that [2:31:55] that the general fund [2:31:55] will supplement the fire fun by [2:31:56] that one 0.1 6, 2, 1, 9, 6, So [2:32:01] we actually did round that to [2:32:02] 1.2 in that slide. But then [2:32:02] this is the amount of money [2:32:08] that the [2:32:09] general fund what transfer from [2:32:10] the general fund to the fire [2:32:13] fund in order to achieve a [2:32:14] balanced budget. So when you [2:32:15] look at the budget itself and [2:32:21] then the revenues total you'll [2:32:22] see that the revenues there is [2:32:22] that 15 a 1 million 5 65 3.91. [2:32:26] So that's how we were able to [2:32:27] achieve a balanced budget based [2:32:27] on the proposed expenditures in [2:32:32] the budget. [2:32:33] And if the assessment at 6 5976 [2:32:39] is passed. [2:32:40] I'm just going to skip too. [2:32:52] The back of second. [2:32:52] Actually no I would just pass [2:32:53] this on to the chief and I'm [2:33:03] sorry that site is not. [2:33:04] >> Good evening. Mayor [2:33:12] commissioners city manager. [2:33:13] Talk the rays of the assessment [2:33:13] assessment hasn't been [2:33:20] increased since 2021. So [2:33:21] rigidly to 78 and we're trying [2:33:21] to increase it up to 6.50. [2:33:26] And I'll break it down. [2:33:26] The cost has stayed the same [2:33:27] for the residents since 2021. [2:33:30] But [2:33:31] the cost. Training and up [2:33:32] protection of the equipment. [2:33:35] It's a 24 7 operation. Erin [2:33:41] 24 7. Not stop. [2:33:42] The proposal. Help to cover the [2:33:43] fire protection cause of the [2:33:45] assessment rather than the city [2:33:45] revenue. So the money instead [2:33:46] of coming from the from the tax [2:33:48] is going to the and the [2:33:49] assessment were not gaining [2:33:49] more money with the taxes were [2:33:56] just guys going to supplement [2:33:57] it with the assessment. [2:33:58] Compared to other cities like [2:34:03] lauderhill Tamarac Lauderdale [2:34:04] lakes on the slide you see. [2:34:05] What the what what it covers. [2:34:09] And our proposal. It's going to [2:34:13] cover Almost 93%. For [2:34:13] we're paying up of the fire [2:34:18] rescue the 15 Million. [2:34:19] So Laura says doesn't mean a [2:34:20] lower cost of the Fire [2:34:24] Department. [2:34:25] And also our city the most [2:34:25] responsible and one of the [2:34:28] cheapest cities compared to [2:34:28] other counties up other other [2:34:29] fire departments in Brevard [2:34:34] County. [2:34:35] The level of service that we [2:34:41] deliver average of all [2:34:41] 5,082 cause from OCTOBER 2025 [2:34:42] to AUGUST 2026. I have is [2:34:47] response time from a dispatch [2:34:48] to the door is 5 minutes, 37 [2:34:49] seconds run about 338 new joint [2:34:51] responses. Throughout our [2:34:52] neighboring cities Tamarac [2:34:55] Margate [2:34:56] Larry Hill and our training we [2:34:56] do about 11,500 hours of [2:34:59] training and Prix fire planning [2:35:05] for the city. [2:35:05] Iso class one of our biggest [2:35:06] cause of a condo complex men's [2:35:07] wear iso class [2:35:08] of want. There's only others on [2:35:08] the other 500 other fire [2:35:17] departments nationwide. That [2:35:17] have achieved that so one [2:35:18] class. We also have a ha gold [2:35:22] standard any MS. [2:35:23] And we also also have a state [2:35:24] of the art fire training [2:35:26] facility. And we have a vested [2:35:27] about 2 million a lot of it [2:35:32] from arpa funds. [2:35:40] That's going to possibility. [2:35:41] Fiscal year 2027. Yes, that [2:35:42] kind I think it's already been [2:35:46] say it again. It's 12 [2:35:47] 12 million 510 thousand from [2:35:48] ems and other revenues we've [2:35:51] got about one 0.8. And the [2:35:52] general fund chance for which I [2:35:53] think that was asked before. [2:35:58] So with the assessment all we [2:35:59] need is a 1.1 6, 2 of the [2:35:59] general fund to balance our our [2:36:08] feet are 2027. To balance the [2:36:09] budget. And again lows cost per [2:36:09] station. It's about 7.7 million [2:36:13] to run each we have 2 stations [2:36:14] to run both stations which like [2:36:15] I said a lot less expensive [2:36:17] than other departments in [2:36:23] Broward County. [2:36:24] The bottom line in all this is [2:36:24] the increase will be an [2:36:27] increase of [2:36:28] 372 per year $31 a month or you [2:36:31] could say a dollar per day. [2:36:32] I know it's I know it's going [2:36:33] to affect the the citizens. [2:36:39] We we need to increase this for [2:36:40] years now, and this is where [2:36:40] we're at right now with live [2:36:44] with the fire assessment. [2:36:45] We also got understand that [2:36:46] we've save the taxpayers a lot [2:36:51] of money when it comes to we [2:36:52] use arpa funds make our bunker [2:36:53] gear storage room at a station [2:36:55] 44 which forces that cancer [2:36:59] initiative. [2:36:59] For for the bunker gear and for [2:37:00] the fight to keep the [2:37:04] firefighters say. [2:37:05] Funded almost a mostly for a [2:37:06] ladder truck. Through the arpa [2:37:14] funds firings and we got to [2:37:15] our funds and a rescue unit. [2:37:15] So we've got approximately 3 [2:37:18] point 3.1 7 million dollars in [2:37:19] arpa funds that the taxpayers [2:37:24] and not have to pay. [2:37:24] And our capital improvements [2:37:30] for fiscal year [2:37:31] 2027. We we still have to [2:37:31] remaining balance of 487,000 [2:37:35] for the [2:37:36] latter truck. We also getting [2:37:36] another new rescue unit which [2:37:39] is approximately 472,000. [2:37:41] So [2:37:42] are projected. Our projected [2:37:43] capital projects for this for a [2:37:45] fiscal year 2020 so be one 0.2 [2:37:50] million dollars. [2:37:51] I think that any questions [2:37:53] please. [2:37:56] This one. [2:37:57] >> I'd like to hear from the [2:37:58] public regarding the fire [2:38:00] service special assistant at [2:38:10] this point right now. [2:38:15] You can call the first [2:38:16] person please just limit to [2:38:17] less limited to 2 minutes [2:38:19] please just just say what you [2:38:20] get it's going to be for guests [2:38:25] at this point. [2:38:26] >> But even everyone my name is [2:38:27] Nathan Chen car and after the [2:38:32] residents in Florida since 2011 [2:38:33] when I purchased my home. [2:38:33] I know the fight she just talk [2:38:36] about the increase which was [2:38:37] a headache for me when I see my [2:38:40] proposed bill. [2:38:41] From 2.17 to 6.50 doesn't sound [2:38:41] like much to the fight too. [2:38:46] But it is a lot to resident. [2:38:47] I think what you guys are [2:38:47] forgetting is that the same [2:38:55] residents that you're looking [2:38:56] at right now put you guys can [2:38:56] the Spurs nation. And when you [2:39:00] guys get into these petition [2:39:00] guys forget about the [2:39:01] PRESIDENT's that put 2 guys [2:39:05] beer. I have not seen year. [2:39:05] At one 0.1 might feel that the [2:39:06] city of not just the all said [2:39:12] John might be less decrease [2:39:13] something for the residents. [2:39:14] Every year. It's an increase [2:39:19] skies. This same water. I [2:39:19] propose still that York [2:39:20] increasing it's been on my one [2:39:22] fear work the same water the [2:39:22] same kind of the same price [2:39:23] increases on the couple's get [2:39:27] here but when I get my monthly [2:39:33] bill. It is also. [2:39:34] Are there some came here pain [2:39:35] here, 15 million doesn't so [2:39:38] like a lot to the chief because [2:39:39] guess what we just ate the [2:39:39] residents from page 6. So [2:39:43] 15 million is nothing. All [2:39:43] right I can for say $30,000. [2:39:50] It's safe to use. [2:39:50] These increases are absolutely [2:39:51] outrageous not to say we're not [2:39:54] supposed to pay something for [2:39:54] the city of course we live [2:40:00] here. [2:40:01] I have seen the goal that you [2:40:02] have been growing in North lot [2:40:09] of I respect that. I appreciate [2:40:10] you for that I have seen [2:40:10] changes. In the last 2 years. [2:40:15] But at the same time. I work [2:40:15] for the election office. [2:40:20] Get 10% increase. [2:40:21] One to 3% every year and that [2:40:24] is nothing absolutely nothing. [2:40:25] >> so we get in Chris, I do not [2:40:25] become my paycheck because it [2:40:28] doesn't make a difference to [2:40:34] me I don't see the difference. [2:40:35] So I'm asking is that you guys [2:40:35] please think about these [2:40:38] increased think about the [2:40:39] resident that work one job and [2:40:39] you guys are sensitive to work [2:40:42] 2 jobs so they can pay these [2:40:43] high increase the time is I [2:40:43] want to thank you, thank you, [2:40:46] thank you. [2:40:50] >> This person is. [2:40:52] Okay bill [2:40:56] Lester, so. [2:40:56] >> I'm something that you guys [2:40:57] I want to have heart attacks. [2:41:01] But. [2:41:02] One thing was for us too [2:41:02] because I talked to sweet have [2:41:05] listen these guys have a tough [2:41:06] one thing I did do is look at [2:41:08] my insurance bill. [2:41:09] Because of our rating of our [2:41:09] Fire Department here and all [2:41:18] the stuff we have and there's [2:41:18] response time what they talked [2:41:19] about. I save $1000 a year. [2:41:20] On my [2:41:21] home insurance because of our [2:41:22] party now it's also because I [2:41:26] live down the street and close [2:41:26] different things but. It isn't [2:41:30] the think [2:41:30] about now. It doesn't like a [2:41:31] lot of like this said it's it's [2:41:34] been 5 years since we've they [2:41:34] are able to change that again [2:41:35] they can they can do for the [2:41:38] next 5 years again so. [2:41:38] It does seem high and we can [2:41:39] always asking to see what they [2:41:42] can cut a little bit more look [2:41:45] we're going to ask Mike and [2:41:46] everything else. But it is [2:41:46] something about is that we do [2:41:49] have a cause for carbon and I'd [2:41:50] like to stay that way because [2:41:50] it keeps our he's my cost down [2:41:53] to thank you. [2:41:53] >> Thank you to the next [2:41:57] person. [2:41:58] This this whole this show kind [2:42:01] of those so I just have a [2:42:01] I'm not quite sure my church my [2:42:02] church doesn't go down because [2:42:05] of the fire. So I'm not seeing [2:42:09] that in mind but [2:42:10] I left I just want to know if [2:42:10] there's a middle ground between [2:42:13] the sick from 2, 7, 8, to 6.50. [2:42:14] There's nothing else could pose [2:42:14] a choking we can do this this [2:42:18] all this we came with your rate [2:42:19] one of the other there was no [2:42:20] middle ground between us and I [2:42:22] said it at the last meeting [2:42:29] we had that. [2:42:30] It went from 2.78 to 6.52. [2:42:34] If you put it in [2:42:35] 3.72. $0.31 $31 and a dog, but [2:42:35] no one put it off how much [2:42:42] percentages that is that's a [2:42:43] 133% to normalize the [2:42:44] percentages on everything else [2:42:47] are you saving 5% 6%. But this [2:42:48] is a 130% increase. So that's [2:42:51] what I want. [2:43:02] >> Experts in place. [2:43:03] Good evening, MISTER Mayor and [2:43:03] commissioners. My name Eric [2:43:06] Eric [2:43:07] Hill hangs. The developer of [2:43:11] the North Lauderdale and build [2:43:12] that project and former city [2:43:12] commissioner along the [2:43:15] lakeshore 40 years. [2:43:16] So I know the position that [2:43:19] you're in. [2:43:20] And I come up to speak about [2:43:23] the fire the fire assessments. [2:43:26] Young lady [2:43:27] was correct. So a 130% increase [2:43:30] in one year. [2:43:31] One of the challenges that [2:43:31] we've always faced as elected [2:43:34] officials the terms of how to [2:43:42] deal. [2:43:43] Always quiet too. Our job [2:43:44] responsibility because we have [2:43:48] a flower pot. And that flower [2:43:50] pot. This field war. So its [2:43:51] limited resources and that [2:43:51] flower fight has to sprinkle [2:43:56] everything but all the [2:43:57] different polls coming out. [2:43:57] The fire rescue assessment, [2:44:00] you're [2:44:01] right that has a very racist [2:44:01] 2021, however that's a policy [2:44:06] decision by the commission [2:44:07] whether those who were here [2:44:07] before or not that didn't. [2:44:08] They're on [2:44:08] the residents. It was the [2:44:09] commission who made those [2:44:11] decisions based on what you [2:44:14] present it. [2:44:15] The study that was done and we [2:44:15] should do a study is all the [2:44:21] time because the state requires [2:44:22] in order to raise the fee. [2:44:23] What the state does not require [2:44:26] when you get the study is that [2:44:27] that entire fee didn't assess [2:44:28] and one year. It's a study [2:44:34] document and so you can look at [2:44:35] that document and you can work [2:44:36] with staff the fire chief or [2:44:38] whoever and come up with [2:44:38] a plan to get to that point you [2:44:39] don't have to get there in one [2:44:44] year you don't have a 130% one [2:44:45] year. That's what I believe the [2:44:48] residents of talking about. [2:44:49] That increase face what we're [2:44:49] looking at what amendment 3. [2:44:54] You're really asking people to [2:44:55] vote for him and 3. Because [2:44:55] when you assess a 130% over 3. [2:45:01] The owners are going to vote [2:45:02] for that tell you what citizens [2:45:02] amendment 3 is bad for all [2:45:05] cities. [2:45:06] Because we're going to have to [2:45:06] make it up it's going to pass [2:45:08] and I know I'm out of time out. [2:45:09] We'll sit down and I just say [2:45:10] please look at that that's the [2:45:16] that's the biggest increase. [2:45:17] It's a study take the time to [2:45:18] sit down with staff. One last [2:45:20] time as [2:45:21] the mayor. The ladder truck I [2:45:23] just up next I love the [2:45:23] Fire Department and one of the [2:45:24] lakes we talked about the [2:45:30] matter truck all the time. [2:45:31] Every city. That touches North [2:45:31] lot of them there Wells has led [2:45:35] a truck. We have a new tool 8 [2:45:36] bill deals are not that high. [2:45:37] We've got to just not what you [2:45:41] know. [2:45:42] Haha but thank you, thanks for [2:45:43] the service also appreciate [2:45:45] okay. Thank you. Next question [2:45:55] please. [2:45:56] >> Out football at I like to [2:45:56] have a question to the city [2:45:59] manager regarding one of the [2:46:07] budget line items. Got a [2:46:08] lot to yes you can't do it yes, [2:46:08] there is a charge of and money [2:46:11] fund the fire rescue special [2:46:11] right new fund for other [2:46:17] current [2:46:18] charges miscellaneous now this [2:46:19] year it's increasing from 2000 [2:46:29] to a 130,865 dollars. [2:46:29] I'm sorry high increase [2:46:30] shouldn't be budgeted to [2:46:32] specify what the a $128,000 in [2:46:33] bonuses for instead of just [2:46:34] dumping it into miscellaneous [2:46:43] account. [2:46:44] >> We go through the budget and [2:46:44] find out where it MAY take a [2:46:45] minute on time I just I just [2:46:45] want to thank the Fire [2:46:46] Department, I know that they're [2:46:49] crucial they provide excellent [2:46:49] service to us and thank you [2:46:50] very much for that. Now some [2:46:52] are bill could you answer that [2:47:03] you know off the top of her. [2:47:03] If not what we're doing that [2:47:04] would could listen to here the [2:47:11] next week please. [2:47:11] Good evening again mayor [2:47:17] commissioners. [2:47:18] My comments are limited to [2:47:19] proposed car rescue have non ad [2:47:22] valorem assessment. [2:47:23] My annual fire rescue [2:47:23] assessment is increased from [2:47:27] 2.78 to 6.50. [2:47:28] According to my calculations [2:47:28] that's an increase of 372 in [2:47:31] one year. [2:47:35] That's a 134% for me. [2:47:35] I recognize that fire rescue is [2:47:38] an essential [2:47:39] public service as a form 8 [2:47:40] former deputy sheriff, myself [2:47:45] and also a former emergency [2:47:46] dispatcher for bso I understand [2:47:48] the importance of [2:47:48] properly staffing. Equip the [2:47:49] equipping and funding emergency [2:47:55] responders my objection is not [2:47:55] just not is not to supporting [2:47:59] fire rescue. My [2:47:59] objection is 2 opposing such a [2:48:00] large increase all it wants [2:48:05] without adequately [2:48:05] demonstrating. Why the specific [2:48:06] amount is necessary and whether [2:48:12] less burdensome alternatives [2:48:13] could be considered unlike and [2:48:14] ad valorem tax this assessment [2:48:17] is a fixed charge. It does not [2:48:18] adjusted according to a [2:48:18] homeowner's property value or [2:48:21] ability to pay. [2:48:22] As senior living on [2:48:25] approximately [2:48:26] 1900 per month 10 Beach art can [2:48:27] be charged the same amount as [2:48:30] someone with substantially [2:48:30] greater financial resources. [2:48:31] That makes this increased pace, [2:48:38] especially difficult for [2:48:39] seniors. On a lot of [2:48:39] lower-income homer before [2:48:41] approving the [2:48:42] 6.50 assessment. Police clearly [2:48:42] explain how the amount was [2:48:47] calculated what portion rest [2:48:48] presents that out actual costs [2:48:49] of providing far rescue [2:48:51] services to residential [2:48:52] properties and weather every [2:48:53] dollar collected must be used [2:48:56] exclusively for that service. [2:48:57] I asked the commission to [2:48:57] consider reducing the [2:49:02] assessment. Fay MAY be facing [2:49:03] the increase over several years [2:49:03] using available Rees reserves [2:49:07] for part of the immediate costs [2:49:08] identifying savings elsewhere [2:49:08] in the budget and establishing [2:49:14] lawful hardship assistance for [2:49:14] the low low income seniors and [2:49:15] disabled homeowners essential [2:49:20] services must be funded, but [2:49:21] they must also be funded fairly [2:49:21] increasing one's household far [2:49:29] rescue assessment by 134% is it [2:49:29] in a single year is not [2:49:30] reasonable for an affordable [2:49:33] solution. I respectfully ask [2:49:34] you to reject the proposed 6.50 [2:49:40] and adopt a [2:49:40] more gradual a quick equitable [2:49:41] assessment. Thank you so much. [2:49:48] Thank u next person. [2:49:49] >> back your Isa given the [2:49:49] owner of the building of a [2:49:56] focused Southwest 81st Avenue [2:49:56] it's an office building. [2:49:57] The presentation did not [2:50:02] include how is this. No I [2:50:03] assessment goals against [2:50:03] commercial properties. In my [2:50:10] specific situation, the. [2:50:11] The you know, I love them went [2:50:12] up from $35,000 which is in our [2:50:14] rate just to get to [2:50:20] begin with 2 $75,000 for [2:50:21] good percentage. Full to calls [2:50:22] and often mall just on non upon [2:50:28] talks on my property. [2:50:28] Do you think it would end up a [2:50:29] 128,000 Bullock told Fox's so [2:50:32] the non big fire this q a [2:50:32] system in which is the big [2:50:37] chunk of [2:50:38] that figure. He's proposed to [2:50:39] go up from 28,065 1000 [2:50:41] buildings. Again a repeat [2:50:46] the numbers, $28,000 to [2:50:47] 65,000 go in the building and [2:50:48] there is even here the one of [2:50:49] the tendency to behind me. [2:50:50] Nobody pays me back to [2:50:50] pre-pandemic we put the cost of [2:51:00] rent when we. When we're able [2:51:00] to click. We pay all the [2:51:01] expenses. No way DR. How would [2:51:02] happen. I did a quick [2:51:03] calculation a quick research [2:51:04] will click auctioneer spent [2:51:11] time with some research I'm [2:51:12] going to pay one point cooled [2:51:12] off per square foot maybe think [2:51:18] it's 55,000 square foot. [2:51:19] And the fire rescue assistant [2:51:19] would be 65,000 all of this is [2:51:23] $1.2 a [2:51:24] square foot. But neighboring cp [2:51:24] market is a 0.38. Our [2:51:27] neighboring city look at the [2:51:31] lakes is like 0.41. [2:51:32] The city of Qom Iraq Isis left [2:51:32] feet you know more than $30,000 [2:51:38] which in my case what upping [2:51:39] $0.50. I went to bed that night [2:51:46] did some research on the high. [2:51:46] Fire rescue a 15 month old and [2:51:47] want no call today is trying to [2:51:48] call it I found [2:51:49] one cd very similar from [2:51:50] Oakland and then once it is the [2:51:54] call it slightly more. It's the [2:51:55] same deal with them. Guys we [2:51:56] have got to see the western [2:51:58] great. No disrespect but we're [2:52:01] not there. [2:52:02] And I don't I don't think it [2:52:03] research on defiant this cute [2:52:05] note that put them to make a [2:52:10] long story short. [2:52:10] If I end up paying those being [2:52:15] a cyst on those taxes. [2:52:16] These would be the highest tax [2:52:16] bracket in Broward County that [2:52:24] somebody is think. This will be [2:52:24] again the highest Cox Bruck [2:52:28] monos full percent off 5th of [2:52:29] all you what going to taxes [2:52:30] this is outrageous doesn't [2:52:32] exist. [2:52:33] Doesn't exist and again the [2:52:33] Lady before me said, then on a [2:52:38] couple of nothing to do with [2:52:39] the assist about you. Yes, [2:52:39] every year we go to broadcom [2:52:44] can we fight the assist of [2:52:44] ideas a time-out successful of [2:52:45] times why not here there's [2:52:46] nobody to fight. There's nobody [2:52:46] can fight you cannot comment [2:52:47] say maybe I think it's a [2:52:55] thinking okay so they can get [2:52:55] the money to pay for real file, [2:52:56] so this is why knows why so I [2:52:57] would appreciate if the Chiefs [2:52:57] going live to explain how did [2:52:58] that come up with his [2:53:02] calculation for the militia [2:53:03] properties. Thank you very much [2:53:06] guys all right. Thank you. [2:53:06] >> It is known no no no no no [2:53:07] no we want to keep the order [2:53:10] appreciate that thank you Sir, [2:53:11] thank you very much. We [2:53:15] appreciate that. [2:53:18] It is 7.55. [2:53:22] We have heard Residents. [2:53:26] At this particular time. [2:53:27] Under the current [2:53:34] circumstances. [2:53:35] I do not support increasing the [2:53:40] fire special assessment. [2:53:40] I support making the existing. [2:53:45] Assessment rate. [2:53:45] And direct and mistress who I [2:53:46] can't find the appropriate [2:53:54] funding adjustment necessary. [2:53:55] To maintain essential. High [2:53:58] risk of services with that. [2:53:59] MADAM Attorney if you could [2:53:59] please pro of provide an [2:54:03] appropriate motion necessary [2:54:10] to maintain the current rate. [2:54:12] I can just do so if someone is [2:54:12] some will some won't give you [2:54:14] second guess what. [2:54:16] Just for [2:54:17] the record. Yeah on dissent, [2:54:17] but we don't want we just keep [2:54:22] your plot everybody because we [2:54:23] don't want to. They don't know. [2:54:29] Thank you appreciate that. [2:54:29] If not we'll just have someone [2:54:30] system will do you just want to [2:54:32] the motion is to keep it [2:54:32] maintained everything the right [2:54:33] way does it go. You know, you [2:54:40] know. [2:54:41] >> Moving to a man. The highest [2:54:42] rate. That is providing that is [2:54:44] provided. [2:54:49] In the resolution. [2:54:50] And you want it to the men team [2:54:51] that the previous year's rate [2:54:56] that's the motion. The motion [2:54:57] is to keep the to keep their [2:54:58] system the way it is and it's [2:54:58] so adjustment this is set [2:55:01] to maintain. [2:55:02] >> Yeah essential fire risk and [2:55:06] we mention that the yes the for [2:55:07] the year. We've got to look at [2:55:08] other ways my job is to 2 of [2:55:12] them. Going to business is a [2:55:13] resident, but are there special [2:55:13] is their job there is to find [2:55:16] other ways to do we've got to [2:55:19] find it somehow. [2:55:20] We're going to find some up [2:55:20] because we heard over and over [2:55:23] and over and over and over and [2:55:29] and we mentioned that. [2:55:30] The worst thing I would like to [2:55:31] see is resident in the no-fly [2:55:35] deal to the better because [2:55:36] we're chasing them out of [2:55:36] different things whatever [2:55:40] wasn't done 9 years ago for 7 [2:55:40] years ago that's fine but this [2:55:41] is time that we are high or we [2:55:43] have people to look at those [2:55:44] sting. If we could do it here [2:55:45] to the commission could find it [2:55:47] we would have done it this is [2:55:48] not a job our job is to listen [2:55:48] to the PRESIDENT Find ways and [2:55:52] has amassed to mention that. [2:55:57] Had had to propose [2:55:58] was it somewhere in between is [2:55:59] discussing this week earlier. [2:56:04] Instead of going just with 36 [2:56:04] percent somewhere. It would be [2:56:05] gradually 5 sandals somewhere [2:56:09] people can live somewhere but [2:56:10] at this point that was present [2:56:10] there. I say I would I cannot [2:56:13] support and that's we're going [2:56:14] to vote to see where everybody [2:56:14] sit with that one. At this [2:56:21] point. [2:56:22] >> So is that the solution was [2:56:23] approving this assessment roll [2:56:26] right foot of it if you would [2:56:27] you would maintain maintain it, [2:56:28] but you you're not approving [2:56:33] that the system [2:56:34] it's great. You want it to [2:56:35] remain as it was in yes and [2:56:36] that's why the other and still [2:56:36] find a other adjustments [2:56:37] necessary to still meet and [2:56:40] essential fire risk, a private [2:56:44] service. [2:56:45] Okay was their second. It's [2:56:45] been moved. The second second [2:56:48] MADAM Clerk, the roll call [2:56:51] please. [2:56:56] Commissioner Martin. [2:56:57] Through the chair Mary before [2:56:58] we take a roll call is We [2:57:05] believe it at comments do they [2:57:06] comments well. I mean I we [2:57:07] could negotiate a motion make a [2:57:07] motion that's fine. I mean if [2:57:08] you have any Victoria Moore, [2:57:09] yes, because the reason being [2:57:09] is because I would love to hear [2:57:10] from staff with the [2:57:14] consequences. [2:57:14] >> I know I have talked to [2:57:18] Steph [2:57:19] several times right and I get [2:57:19] you know it's one of those [2:57:21] years. [2:57:24] However, this is [2:57:24] very important and so can you [2:57:25] please course you can just kind [2:57:34] of explain to us if that's okay [2:57:35] with the mayor. The chair. [2:57:40] The chair. The crime. [2:57:40] >> How does that work well you [2:57:41] need there was a motion a [2:57:45] second is usually after the [2:57:46] motion and the second is a [2:57:46] discussion. There's no [2:57:48] discussion [2:57:48] after that right there is that [2:57:49] there's no there is no case in [2:57:51] a different discussion motion [2:57:56] second discussion. [2:57:57] Because that was the first well [2:57:57] we didn't have a motion for [2:58:01] discussion, but it's fine. [2:58:02] We didn't have that was the [2:58:05] street to make a motion [2:58:06] that which which you know says [2:58:06] the hope is that yes so yeah [2:58:09] you did make a motion of the [2:58:10] ocean you made a motion pool to [2:58:12] think so. [2:58:13] >> Well is there anything that [2:58:17] we can discuss this because I [2:58:18] think the residents need [2:58:18] to know the consequences of not [2:58:19] raising I mean it doesn't have [2:58:22] to be that amount but we moved [2:58:23] to to something right just to [2:58:30] say. [2:58:30] >> It's okay, I'm gonna like [2:58:31] that to happen but to the point [2:58:36] is to the motion is to while [2:58:36] was still do not approve it, [2:58:41] but so. [2:58:41] And mistress will identify [2:58:42] appropriate funding, necessary [2:58:45] adjust funnyman just [2:58:49] unnecessary. The [2:58:50] committee says consequence or [2:58:50] not they're still going to [2:58:55] receive the service the thing [2:58:56] is the question was how far [2:58:56] deep in the in the reserve, you [2:58:58] know what we don't want to go [2:58:59] to if you can find alternatives [2:59:00] because now we're looking at [2:59:06] cutting cutting but have we [2:59:07] explore other. Just other ways [2:59:08] to find so the rich don't have [2:59:10] to go deep regard as the cause. [2:59:11] Even if you do not increase it. [2:59:12] This year event she's going to [2:59:17] come up and with 3 budgets over [2:59:18] that over explain. I just want [2:59:19] to move the item there because [2:59:22] at this point [2:59:22] explaining the what he does he [2:59:23] doesn't change anything the [2:59:28] matter as far as I'm seeing [2:59:29] and what residents this year [2:59:29] white was okay, I can pull off [2:59:32] a circle of it but the [2:59:33] idea is it's about what could [2:59:39] have been in this a long time [2:59:39] it is resident don't want the [2:59:40] cannot afford it. And they [2:59:43] don't want to reach out to the [2:59:44] same night we're not just saw [2:59:45] the point the have to please [2:59:46] you I'm going to have to act [2:59:47] quickly because the whole time [2:59:48] tonight to explain the [2:59:52] consequences but I is what I [2:59:53] would do it about it with the [2:59:53] PRESIDENT Because I don't want [2:59:59] to enter is it moral to morsi [3:00:00] I'm selling my house because [3:00:00] we're just going to run around [3:00:03] a subject that simple as that [3:00:03] go into it so can I please [3:00:04] finish mayor is Go ahead with [3:00:09] good. Thank you so much you're [3:00:10] welcome very much ok so we need [3:00:11] to understand this. We are in [3:00:13] an titled. A city, okay, which [3:00:19] means. [3:00:20] >> We the senses I think what [3:00:20] is under what 4040 something [3:00:23] got how many people it's less [3:00:25] than 50,000 less than [3:00:25] 2006 1000 right. So so [3:00:26] therefore we're not privy to [3:00:33] certain things and I totally [3:00:34] get it, I'm so for you know the [3:00:34] cuts so for for keeping I'm [3:00:39] certain [3:00:39] certain great civic Center but [3:00:40] we need to explain just because [3:00:43] this is an election year. [3:00:44] We have to understand the [3:00:45] repercussions. Right, the [3:00:51] long-term repercussions of what [3:00:52] happened. The problem lies and [3:00:52] has been is because we have not [3:00:55] raise rates for all these [3:00:55] numbers of years and now we're [3:00:56] being hit and this is the [3:01:00] recommendation from staff, okay [3:01:01] so I want to hear from that I [3:01:02] want to educate ok our [3:01:04] residents but happening here [3:01:04] because we might not raise it [3:01:05] today, okay, but eventually [3:01:09] we're going to have to and so [3:01:10] we really need to you know just [3:01:11] just kind of explain and so I'm [3:01:21] Let me say something there. [3:01:21] It is unfair. Just take our [3:01:27] time. Over a month. [3:01:27] That we reap do we propose to [3:01:28] have to budget. A town hall [3:01:31] meetings. [3:01:32] What happened here right here [3:01:33] with many ways and shore up [3:01:37] here. [3:01:37] Others to 2 days later at the [3:01:38] Oakbrook. How many [3:01:43] commissioners assist attended [3:01:44] the town hall meetings when [3:01:44] that deal was to educate the [3:01:47] residents. [3:01:48] >> None of them. I mean how [3:01:49] many of them were there and [3:01:52] that was the top perfect time [3:01:52] to do it. But we that will that [3:01:53] what we using even right now [3:02:00] we're using the taxpayers money [3:02:01] right now. I want to say that [3:02:01] it was a time perfect time. [3:02:03] It was announced sunshine. [3:02:04] Rez Commission it could have [3:02:05] been here reason we're here [3:02:10] there We don't have the numbers [3:02:11] to fall back. The first one. [3:02:12] The second was that it was the [3:02:15] same purpose where it has. [3:02:16] The department will present [3:02:17] this assessment. They explain [3:02:20] what's going to happen there [3:02:20] see the Magic's plane. The [3:02:21] consequence all that it was [3:02:27] done explaining to those people [3:02:27] have to ask a question. So this [3:02:28] is not fair at this point [3:02:32] again. [3:02:33] To keep going the same thing [3:02:33] that we're already did this [3:02:37] mean for tonight [3:02:38] is to approve or confined in [3:02:38] midfield that's going to do [3:02:42] that and that's the point I'm [3:02:42] saying is if I don't if I [3:02:48] Commission if I don't show up. [3:02:49] And they the most reasons we're [3:02:50] here already. Yeah it [3:02:51] understand it. It's not for [3:02:52] that which their time that's [3:02:53] what I'm saying to the chair [3:03:00] America faces this is not a [3:03:01] waste of time education is kind [3:03:01] of a waste of time to said, but [3:03:04] we're going to help you When [3:03:04] it's time to make at this point [3:03:05] or your motion you continue to [3:03:05] do [3:03:07] this right. [3:03:07] >> It's our responsibility [3:03:08] whether they're there or not [3:03:12] because there's there's people [3:03:13] here residents are here. [3:03:18] They do not [3:03:19] understand this. So I am being [3:03:19] responsible by asking hartsock [3:03:23] you can come up just explain a [3:03:23] little bit if we choose to keep [3:03:24] the assessment as is we will [3:03:27] keep as it [3:03:28] is however we need to just you [3:03:29] know just give them a little [3:03:31] snippet of what's going on and [3:03:32] what are the consequences [3:03:33] that's all because as of [3:03:39] NOVEMBER, 3rd if that property [3:03:40] tax does get approved right. [3:03:40] A lot changes we need to [3:03:46] understand and so we don't have [3:03:47] in in the future people are [3:03:48] coming to City Hall and say why [3:03:52] were we educate was in the [3:03:53] center at least you know goes [3:03:53] that that are watching and and [3:03:57] and those that did not attend [3:03:58] this got me that's a tell me I [3:03:59] can't get just that you could [3:04:00] just be educated as a mayor [3:04:01] that it just as you kill your [3:04:04] point is worth taking. [3:04:09] >> If we count how many [3:04:10] people here and we have that [3:04:10] means we have another 40's, [3:04:13] some 1000 there so that that [3:04:13] property that they're so the [3:04:14] point is we made it just it [3:04:20] just [3:04:21] made here chief it or explain [3:04:21] what it is and we what I'm [3:04:26] saying is let's move on is [3:04:26] 6 right now will we decide that [3:04:27] we're going to maintain it yeah [3:04:30] staff I want to do let's move [3:04:34] on if you want to take the [3:04:34] people's time, I'm good with [3:04:35] that we're not taking the okay [3:04:37] okay, let's go [3:04:38] for education, let's go for it [3:04:38] and that's ok this this [3:04:41] morning. Thank you. All right [3:04:47] education. [3:04:48] >> Okay and regards to how that [3:04:49] will the budget [3:04:50] itself so this is not the [3:04:51] slide. But I'm just going to [3:04:53] speak off from what I have here [3:04:57] is the [3:04:57] data so the budget being [3:05:00] 15 million 5, [3:05:01] 6, 5, 3, 9, 1, If we keep the [3:05:07] assessment at the current rate. [3:05:08] We will be generated I'm [3:05:09] Approximately 6 million 600 and [3:05:12] 32. [3:05:13] 8.11 and the [3:05:18] assessment revenues. [3:05:18] >> And what that would mean is [3:05:19] that there would be a shortfall [3:05:21] in the budget or [3:05:24] a gap of 7.1 million [3:05:25] dollars however, the general [3:05:26] fund itself will still right [3:05:31] now we'll have that one point. [3:05:31] 1, 6, 2, 1, 9, 6, That is [3:05:35] already factored into [3:05:36] the budget but in order to meet [3:05:36] the gap between that 7.1 [3:05:41] million and the 1.1 6, 2, [3:05:42] that's already in the general [3:05:42] fund. The general fund would [3:05:45] have to supplement [3:05:46] the fire fun by almost [3:05:47] 6 million dollars so a little [3:05:50] over 5.9 million dollars in [3:05:51] order to keep the proposed [3:05:56] budget as what [3:05:57] it is. Thank you so that that [3:05:57] will be on the general fund [3:06:00] side of it and also has a lot [3:06:01] of them didn't know that this [3:06:01] is why I say education is so [3:06:05] important because there's many [3:06:06] people that were in here so to [3:06:07] hear that is very important to [3:06:08] hear. Thank you so much all [3:06:08] right, thank thank we're [3:06:11] looking at. [3:06:12] >> What the revenues will [3:06:19] generate that's true. [3:06:20] We got this I have to look at [3:06:20] how much. He's going to pass. [3:06:25] My residents. To provide the [3:06:25] services, it was the same [3:06:26] reason that again we're going [3:06:27] to ask to increase [3:06:27] every else. It's so it's [3:06:28] perfect to educate. But I'm [3:06:34] just going to say my job is to [3:06:35] make sure that I look what I [3:06:36] would I would keep the costs [3:06:38] down for us that's the only [3:06:38] there and I'm not I'm not [3:06:39] against that but that's also [3:06:47] why we hire. We have experts. [3:06:48] People walk that's their job to [3:06:49] the fight with other because [3:06:57] because we not entitlement [3:06:57] city. Means that we're to [3:06:58] Atlantic to neighbors that we [3:07:01] have one is a 7 6,000 [3:07:01] population. It was 60 some 1000 [3:07:02] population there were only 45 [3:07:05] times we do not get the same [3:07:10] federal funding received. [3:07:10] Until we reach 50,000 it then [3:07:11] I'm at my estimation we're [3:07:16] going to do with just about [3:07:17] 1.2 billion there for 10 years. [3:07:17] So is understand the same or is [3:07:20] that there. [3:07:20] How many time we educate that's [3:07:21] a point but but the point is [3:07:25] what are we doing about it when [3:07:26] they come for them too we're [3:07:26] asking to pay pay pay and [3:07:31] people going to leave no [3:07:32] Florida deal to go to another [3:07:33] city. Close by when you were [3:07:37] moved away because. [3:07:38] We've we've got control exactly [3:07:38] what it is whatever needs to be [3:07:41] done is to be that. But just [3:07:41] missed so many other ways to [3:07:42] find at this I'm going to keep [3:07:44] it at this point so MADAME [3:07:45] Clark has been moved and second [3:07:46] please the roll call everybody [3:07:56] is one vote here. Thank you. [3:07:57] The more it was more than [3:08:03] second it. Commissioner Martin. [3:08:04] >> Commissioner Louis was yes. [3:08:09] Vice mayor Bustamante a yes. [3:08:09] >> Commissioner Louis up for a [3:08:13] vote just quick We set 3 here. [3:08:14] At the second really will be a [3:08:14] moment going to do anything [3:08:17] where there's no set. [3:08:23] >> This is this is the [3:08:24] >> that motion is to maintain [3:08:25] the rage assessment though it [3:08:28] is all the more reason to [3:08:29] whatever it is that's all that [3:08:30] that's what it's about. Okay [3:08:38] now. And they're board tonight. [3:08:39] It was a 3 to did you call the [3:08:40] vice mayor decided to vote in [3:08:43] the Senate he voted yes, it was [3:08:46] yes free to go. Thank you. [3:08:55] So motion pass. [3:08:56] That takes us to the next item [3:08:57] item attorney people want to [3:09:01] be. For the yes. It's about [3:09:02] this solid waste assessment. [3:09:05] Did the proposed it [3:09:06] and opposes 575 per residential [3:09:06] unit, [3:09:09] your client. [3:09:09] >> a resolution of the city [3:09:10] Commission of the city of North [3:09:12] Florida deal Claude ou leading [3:09:12] to the provision of residential [3:09:13] solid waste collection service [3:09:20] is in the city of North Florida [3:09:21] deal Florida. Approving the [3:09:22] assessment rate of $575 for [3:09:25] residential [3:09:26] solid waste. Collection [3:09:27] services for the fiscal year [3:09:27] beginning OCTOBER one [3:09:30] 2026. [3:09:31] >> Imposing a residential about [3:09:31] that sorry couldn't get some [3:09:36] order for these. [3:09:37] Imposing a residential solid [3:09:38] waste collection assessment [3:09:39] against [3:09:40] assessed property located [3:09:40] within the city of North [3:09:43] Florida deal for the fiscal [3:09:44] year beginning on OCTOBER one [3:09:45] 2026. Providing for [3:09:46] severability providing for [3:09:48] conflicts and providing for an [3:09:51] effective date for that. [3:09:52] >> I'm going to ask one more [3:09:52] time please walk some respect [3:09:55] for city attorney is reading [3:10:01] it please. [3:10:02] No no I know I hear we hear a [3:10:03] lot I don't know who exactly [3:10:06] was big but we are a lot of [3:10:07] other people. Appreciate that [3:10:08] we appreciate it because just [3:10:11] don't even listen at home [3:10:12] watching their hearing. They do [3:10:22] everything in the background. [3:10:22] Serve about it. I've read it. [3:10:26] I have read it, [3:10:26] city manager who's going to [3:10:27] present his budget manager [3:10:30] MISTER Mayor will make his [3:10:39] presentation. Thank you. [3:10:40] >> All right proposed budget [3:10:43] for the solid waste fund for [3:10:49] 2027 is 4 million 576 [3:10:49] 800. How did we get to that [3:10:50] balance budget so the [3:10:56] assessment that the coast here [3:10:57] is that 5.75 which would [3:10:58] generate 4 million to 71 1, 3, [3:11:00] 91. In revenues and then we [3:11:07] have some other [3:11:08] that was you know unit that [3:11:09] will be generated through other [3:11:17] sources of almost a 157,000. [3:11:18] And then we are using from that [3:11:18] fund itself fund balance of a [3:11:25] 100 and almost a $149,000. [3:11:26] So that's how we were able to [3:11:26] the current but balanced budget [3:11:29] of the 4.7 6 800. Has proposed [3:11:33] for the solid waste funds. [3:11:33] Primarily what's in here is [3:11:36] just the solid [3:11:37] waste contract. And that you [3:11:38] know has likened the increased [3:11:42] and that's what we actually [3:11:43] budgeted for here the contract [3:11:43] in order to be able to. You [3:11:47] know cover the expenditures are [3:11:48] related to that contract. [3:11:51] For that fund. [3:11:52] I think that's [3:11:56] about okay. [3:11:57] >> I'm going to take the same [3:11:57] question and Commission Martin [3:12:01] has at this point to present [3:12:10] exactly. There. [3:12:10] Yes you explain how you [3:12:11] achieved that, but does that [3:12:14] same should [3:12:15] the reason for the proposed [3:12:16] increase in the financial [3:12:19] maintaining existing rate cut. [3:12:42] Okay. [3:12:49] >> Okay [3:12:50] I chair in regards to current [3:12:56] assessment of the [3:12:57] 4.99. What we basically have [3:12:58] budgeted here is just the cpi [3:13:00] increase of the contract in [3:13:01] order to be able to achieve the [3:13:01] balance budget to pay for the. [3:13:09] Contract that we have with the [3:13:10] solid waste so that's that 4 [3:13:10] point you know 4.5 7, 6, 8, [3:13:15] 100. So I regards to that. [3:13:16] If we were to keep the [3:13:16] assessment at the same we would [3:13:19] not we would generate less [3:13:20] revenues that we will be [3:13:21] looking at approximately 3.7 [3:13:23] million dollars has 3.6 9, 4, [3:13:28] 3, 6, [3:13:29] And other assessments that was [3:13:30] stay the the revenues rather [3:13:35] would stay the same. So it [3:13:36] would mean that the fund would [3:13:36] need to be supplemented by [3:13:40] another 721 $1000 additional [3:13:41] that the final really does not [3:13:42] have right now so we would need [3:13:46] to close that gap of almost you [3:13:47] know $500,000 in order to find [3:13:48] that if we were to keep the [3:13:55] assessment at the current rate. [3:14:01] >> done yes I [3:14:02] thank you. We will not hear [3:14:02] from the public regarding [3:14:08] assessment please. [3:14:09] And we're trying to the minute [3:14:10] at tremendous please. Thank you [3:14:13] couldn't sing [3:14:14] commissioner Mayer. I recognize [3:14:19] that drainage Canal. [3:14:19] Maintenance and flood control [3:14:20] are essential. However I have [3:14:24] to consider my costs my [3:14:25] overhead my annual assessment. [3:14:28] In this particular. [3:14:29] >> You're speaking on the round [3:14:30] one were speaking on the solid [3:14:34] waste right now. Yes. [3:14:35] >> My annual assessment is [3:14:37] increasing from 95 to [3:14:43] 200 on that. [3:14:43] >> Tell me about this his solid [3:14:44] waste your Us water control and [3:14:49] solid waste my apologies think [3:14:49] a year speak out the storm [3:14:50] water. That's the college's out [3:14:54] all come back. [3:14:55] You'd like me to do now so now [3:14:56] you know if you want to speak [3:14:58] on the solid waste solid way [3:14:59] comments on the solid waste [3:15:05] right now have to come back. [3:15:05] >> Next speaker please you saw [3:15:06] with you if you aren't you [3:15:09] could be right here, he's so [3:15:16] solid waste into place. [3:15:17] >> I got my name is rana [3:15:23] Carmichael [3:15:24] 2040 winner circle. The basic [3:15:24] up a little bit sorry that [3:15:26] waste costs are something that [3:15:27] impact my community [3:15:28] substantially because we are in [3:15:30] an H.O.A. And the city contract [3:15:35] requires us [3:15:35] to use waste management and [3:15:36] gives us no option for and [3:15:44] other waste removal services [3:15:45] and we currently spend in my [3:15:45] community as fiscal year 2020 I [3:15:50] $210,000 a year for waste [3:15:51] collection which is about $70 [3:15:52] per homeowner in my community [3:15:55] per month. This is [3:15:56] a contract that I would like to [3:15:59] ask if there's any opportunity [3:16:00] to renegotiate the increase as [3:16:01] I know that race management [3:16:04] does negotiate increases even [3:16:05] though they might be in the [3:16:06] contracts. So that you can [3:16:10] reduce the amount because it is [3:16:10] a very high cost to the people [3:16:11] that are living in commute. [3:16:15] Communities like fight. [3:16:25] Thank you. Next speaker please. [3:16:26] >> So I don't know properties [3:16:26] in South Florida and grow and [3:16:31] being miami-dade. [3:16:31] This property will also bombed [3:16:32] at the same as the Lady before [3:16:35] me said we are bonded by waste [3:16:35] management and frankly they're [3:16:40] killing us. [3:16:40] The miami-dade unincorporated [3:16:41] Dade we also have waste [3:16:45] Management doesn't [3:16:45] but guess what do we don't have [3:16:46] to use that I'm paying a [3:16:52] fraction on think about 25% [3:16:53] for more camping in the [3:16:54] building here. About this Derby [3:16:59] league is smaller building the [3:17:00] smaller. But big cost is a [3:17:01] fraction. A fraction. Waste [3:17:05] Management something to do for [3:17:05] us if they have a contract with [3:17:06] you and we must use them and [3:17:10] it's beyond painful. [3:17:11] All right the next person [3:17:14] please. [3:17:17] Again my name is [3:17:18] Linda ashtray I'm going to [3:17:19] speak on the [3:17:24] solid waste. [3:17:25] >> For this particular item my [3:17:26] annual solid waste charge has [3:17:32] increased from 4.99. [3:17:33] 2, 5, 75. This is an increase [3:17:33] of $76 which is approximately [3:17:35] 15% for me. I do recognize that [3:17:35] garbage and recycling [3:17:36] collections are necessary [3:17:39] municipal services and that [3:17:39] labor fuel equipment disposal [3:17:42] costs are can [3:17:42] increase however as a resident [3:17:43] we should not be expected to [3:17:46] approve a higher assessment [3:17:50] without a clear explanation [3:17:51] of what it is driving the [3:17:51] increase and what the city has [3:17:53] done to control [3:17:53] those costs before approving [3:17:54] the 5.75 assessment please [3:17:59] explain how much of this [3:17:59] increase results from the waste [3:18:00] collection contract. Disposal [3:18:07] fee administrative expenses [3:18:07] or additional services did the [3:18:08] city competitively bid or [3:18:13] renegotiate the contract were [3:18:14] alternative services arranged a [3:18:14] evaluated has the contractor's [3:18:17] performance justify the [3:18:18] increase costs. Again, you know [3:18:19] this is a fix charge that does [3:18:25] not consider property value, [3:18:26] our household income for [3:18:26] seniors like myself. I am on [3:18:30] the lower income now and [3:18:31] residents. Another $76 MAY [3:18:32] appear modest with the overall [3:18:37] budget but it becomes [3:18:38] significant when combined with [3:18:39] the proposed increased in fire [3:18:40] rescue water control storm [3:18:41] water assessment again I would [3:18:42] like to ask the commission to [3:18:44] explore renegotiating the [3:18:44] contract reducing [3:18:45] administrative expenses [3:18:52] applying available solid well [3:18:52] way waist for sars improved [3:18:53] improving collection [3:18:59] efficiencies and phasing [3:18:59] in any unavoidable increases [3:19:00] the city should also consider [3:19:02] lawful hardship assistance for [3:19:02] qualifying low-income [3:19:03] residents. I support reliable [3:19:07] solid waste services, but [3:19:08] residents deserve proof that [3:19:08] the proposed check charges [3:19:11] reflect the low Lois Riess Abul [3:19:11] costs not simply the amount [3:19:12] needed to balance the budget. [3:19:15] Thank you so much please [3:19:16] reconsider the 5, 7, 5 a [3:19:17] suspect and adopt the most [3:19:19] affordable rate. Thank you so [3:19:20] much. Thank u next person, [3:19:29] he's. [3:19:30] >> Good evening. Again. [3:19:31] Commissioner mayor vice mayor [3:19:39] city manager city attorney or [3:19:40] city. I'm Clark. The question I [3:19:41] to cover up the deficits. [3:19:46] I want to get past whatever [3:19:46] are we in essence, our plan is [3:19:47] so quietly train our reserves. [3:19:53] In addition. [3:19:54] I'm not opposing obviously on [3:19:55] the resident I'm not opposing [3:19:59] us balancing our budget. [3:19:59] But the issue I'm having is [3:20:00] what specific steps have we've [3:20:03] taken to go live line by line [3:20:07] to make sure that although [3:20:07] we are prowling bringing the [3:20:08] county's keeping the rates the [3:20:11] same. [3:20:11] What are we doing to make sure [3:20:12] that if something happens like [3:20:16] a hurricane or things like that [3:20:16] that we're not demolishing our [3:20:17] reserve just so that we can get [3:20:22] past an election year. That's [3:20:22] my question. All right, thank [3:20:27] you next person. [3:20:32] >> Have [3:20:33] been done. We're going to bring [3:20:33] it up here unless you want to [3:20:37] yes, MISTER Arafat could [3:20:41] the solid waste really [3:20:42] consists of just 2 contracts, [3:20:43] its waste management that goes [3:20:44] around picking up [3:20:45] the garbage and then it is our [3:20:46] live radar where the garbage is [3:20:51] stopped and so we pay to have [3:20:52] it picked up. And we pay for [3:20:52] this post and so I'm there [3:21:00] isn't a lot in this budget or [3:21:00] are really you know hardly [3:21:01] anything in this budget that we [3:21:04] can cut out of it. [3:21:05] It is I'm basically a service [3:21:11] contract. Yeah in [3:21:12] the budget. Last year we used [3:21:13] reserves out of the solid waste [3:21:15] fun, too. Our keep the [3:21:16] assessment lower. This year [3:21:16] we're using the remaining [3:21:27] $126,000 in reserves. And so. [3:21:27] I certainly understand reducing [3:21:28] the fire they're there. That [3:21:31] the way we. [3:21:31] Our Kate fire rescue is [3:21:32] different than the way some [3:21:40] other cities do it. That's [3:21:41] neither here nor there at this [3:21:41] point. But I would I would ask [3:21:45] that this rate [3:21:46] be approved because we cannot [3:21:47] keep using reserves right to [3:21:50] dump [3:21:51] and more another million [3:21:52] dollars into this because we [3:21:57] don't want to pay the fare the [3:21:58] other costs of the solid waste. [3:21:58] If the direction from the [3:22:03] commission is to you know put [3:22:03] this out for bid down the road [3:22:04] too explore with waste [3:22:10] Management whether or not we [3:22:11] can renegotiate any clauses in [3:22:11] the contract that's separate [3:22:13] from the assessment because [3:22:13] we need to get this is their [3:22:14] costs this is waste [3:22:19] management's cost to pick up [3:22:20] our garbage and this is you [3:22:21] know real Raiders cost to [3:22:23] dispose of [3:22:23] the garbage once it's taken [3:22:24] there or the or where are all [3:22:30] those to dispose of that as [3:22:30] well so I I would strongly ask [3:22:31] for your consideration. Right [3:22:36] because we're going to bring [3:22:37] you back a budget at 7.4 Mills [3:22:38] that doesn't use that the [3:22:41] reserves but we're going to [3:22:41] have to throw in almost [3:22:42] 5 million dollars in reserve [3:22:46] just for the fire rescue now. [3:22:47] And so we would strongly ask [3:22:47] that these remaining. [3:22:50] Assessments. Stay the way their [3:22:57] proposed thank you. [3:22:58] >> comments because we've got [3:23:02] up here. [3:23:03] >> Any question here but the [3:23:04] commission through the chair [3:23:08] you're recognized. [3:23:09] >> This is exactly what I was [3:23:13] saying earlier and. [3:23:14] This is why I felt it was a [3:23:14] real need to explain [3:23:19] consequences. [3:23:20] Is that a gang city manager. [3:23:26] Can you please see me. [3:23:27] History has 2 years how much [3:23:27] you actually use in our [3:23:30] reserve. Weeks. And now you [3:23:36] just mentioned. [3:23:36] To cover. Fire rescue. We have [3:23:42] to take what 5 Million. [3:23:43] >> So it it was about 5 million [3:23:44] dollars. More than that close [3:23:51] to 6. [3:23:52] I don't think tonight the [3:23:52] commission is being [3:23:57] responsible. [3:23:58] I know they were trying to [3:23:59] appease but education part was [3:24:12] so important. [3:24:13] 2 gone to that place and trying [3:24:14] to can we can we can re keep it [3:24:20] civil a list [3:24:20] that cost that way I'm sorry I [3:24:21] just understood part of the [3:24:23] commissioners to make [3:24:23] statements inclusive state okay [3:24:24] okay, thank you to respect for [3:24:32] these. [3:24:33] >> When we vote yes. I was [3:24:33] talking about. The voted yes [3:24:38] and I'm [3:24:39] commissioner who is the least [3:24:40] we could lose who are part of [3:24:45] that. Yes group. [3:24:45] What I'm saying is I thought [3:24:46] what we're trying to do is come [3:24:50] to a middle [3:24:51] ground here. We have spoke to [3:24:51] staff for the past couple of [3:24:56] months. Staff is hired. [3:24:57] Because their experts to brain [3:25:03] game. Information data except [3:25:04] and now again we're dipping in [3:25:04] the reserves. I would love to [3:25:10] know the past 2 years. How much [3:25:11] we have literally spent. [3:25:12] And what is the consequences of [3:25:17] us actually continually peeping [3:25:18] into the reserves. Because [3:25:19] again if we were to have a you [3:25:23] know, I mean is Hurricanes [3:25:23] season. I because a lot that's [3:25:24] going on. And the last thing we [3:25:27] want is not having funds to [3:25:28] cover certain things. Thank you [3:25:36] so much. [3:25:37] Any other commissioner. Have [3:25:41] been on the go. [3:25:41] I understand commissioner Mark [3:25:44] fields, [3:25:45] concern but when you say that [3:25:46] commission is not responsible [3:25:48] tonight. [3:25:49] >> I would like to know what is [3:25:51] our role. [3:25:52] As commission. When we go for [3:25:58] election. [3:25:59] Do we say we're I know working [3:25:59] in the city but for the [3:26:04] resident. This is why. I [3:26:04] respect what you just [3:26:09] mentioned. But [3:26:09] if if if we can't find it the [3:26:10] same resonance it over and over [3:26:18] we hear from the resident, the [3:26:19] same residence. Just its supply [3:26:19] just. Anyone want to go. [3:26:25] The same reason. That we're [3:26:26] hiring. He's good. Over in in [3:26:26] the middle anytime we want [3:26:33] because I mean not we. What is [3:26:34] the city and the commission [3:26:37] together. If we're not taking [3:26:38] consideration there. Okay have [3:26:38] reserve I'm the I'm trying not [3:26:41] to touch it that's true. [3:26:42] But what other types of 10 and [3:26:43] we try trying to get. [3:26:49] Understand that we're see an [3:26:49] entire month. A lot of things [3:26:50] the same thing we try to remove [3:26:53] some events. [3:26:53] Can we charge for them some of [3:26:58] them. [3:26:58] Find other grants look for [3:26:59] grants because you're for [3:27:02] special was especially this [3:27:02] expert. It has a grants [3:27:06] available. [3:27:07] You can give me a list of how [3:27:08] many aggression cannot get but [3:27:10] finding Chris you can get. [3:27:11] I mean other revenues we can [3:27:12] get 5 other source of revenue [3:27:18] to do something I want to see [3:27:19] today we say we find so many [3:27:19] other revenues to find a way. [3:27:22] I'm going to I will agree with [3:27:22] you, but my job here our job [3:27:23] here at this point is still too [3:27:28] see how we can cut it down for [3:27:29] the resident, the same with [3:27:30] charge every way. But let me [3:27:33] let me bring something else [3:27:33] how much she imagine how much [3:27:34] it is costing resident right [3:27:37] now for the recycle site can [3:27:42] be says. [3:27:42] >> The total cost for the [3:27:43] recycling. Well, I mean that I [3:27:49] don't think we ever broken down [3:27:49] by recycling or not the total [3:27:50] cost that the residents pay are [3:27:54] right now are $499 [3:27:54] a year. That's for garbage [3:27:55] pickup we pick up that they do [3:27:56] pick up to recycle as well as [3:27:57] the ball, so it's for 99, okay [3:27:58] so it's in the point is in an [3:28:02] effort I think it's just what [3:28:02] you say is an expert how will [3:28:05] the been we've been [3:28:05] paying for recycling in this in [3:28:06] in broad kind of us who says [3:28:08] you know Florida. How many [3:28:15] years we've been doing that. [3:28:15] Then believe in paying recycle [3:28:16] probably for about 20 years 20 [3:28:20] years, but recently with this [3:28:21] with it with what police [3:28:22] they've been they've been our [3:28:24] contractor for about 3 years so [3:28:25] the last 2 years, ok, [3:28:26] currently. [3:28:27] How effective is recycling [3:28:27] right now for the result if [3:28:30] paying their pain for both how [3:28:38] effective it is. [3:28:39] Recycling is not very effective [3:28:39] right now I don't for yeah, I [3:28:42] mean duh the market has fallen [3:28:44] off from recycled goods [3:28:45] so recycling is not something [3:28:46] that is is has a value right, [3:28:51] but yet yet risen up in charge [3:28:51] for that. You know my risen to [3:28:53] I mean I hear from isn't going [3:28:54] to undermine the reason these 2 [3:28:55] are charged with something is [3:29:00] that the U.S.. Well what with [3:29:01] all due respect whether it's in [3:29:05] the Blue can or the [3:29:06] Brown can. Residents are are [3:29:06] putting it in right and waste [3:29:09] management is picking up and [3:29:10] and they were paying to dispose [3:29:11] of their trip to the point the [3:29:15] point is it I'm reaping what [3:29:15] prison is telling okay. Why are [3:29:16] they paying for something or [3:29:19] they could just put it all into [3:29:19] one cup is just what they want [3:29:20] one fee instead of paying [3:29:24] specifically for recycling and [3:29:25] so on that's a good point there [3:29:26] so if we were looking at that [3:29:28] one at the base and bases and [3:29:31] assessment. [3:29:31] I have 2 going on with the [3:29:32] business say that why should we [3:29:36] keep reading and where we [3:29:37] cannot even Erie to care [3:29:37] because this is recycling is a [3:29:42] big issue in the know in [3:29:43] Broward County in North [3:29:43] Lauderdale. So I'm going to [3:29:47] concede I have to concede that. [3:29:48] So as we asked to keep those [3:29:48] assistant down I mean I do not [3:29:52] doubt that we keep the way it [3:29:52] is but there we need to hear to [3:29:53] what Reza not complaining why [3:29:59] the thing some of them I think [3:29:59] going to the extreme too [3:30:00] separate and then in the [3:30:03] mission for recently that. [3:30:03] Everything goes to it to one [3:30:04] point so why you're paying for [3:30:10] for sorting it out and what is [3:30:10] that it's not working. So [3:30:11] that's that's my argument is [3:30:13] going to be here for with [3:30:13] a resident. So if you're [3:30:14] watching we go off and in with [3:30:18] the same thing. So therefore. [3:30:19] Everybody spoke at this point [3:30:27] so. [3:30:28] I'm going to say that again as [3:30:29] as at this particular time in [3:30:31] under the current circumstances [3:30:32] I do not support increasing [3:30:39] this assessment again. [3:30:39] Repeatedly expressed their [3:30:40] consent apart affordability for [3:30:45] this one there. [3:30:46] And I'm King's use its magic [3:30:47] and find adjustment necessary [3:30:49] to maintain. This service is [3:30:52] still. [3:30:53] For this time to get through [3:31:01] the chair. [3:31:02] I did ask you for buddy had [3:31:03] something that nobody I get [3:31:03] okay that was a [3:31:09] making there. [3:31:09] >> I'll give you a few seconds [3:31:10] and then I was very active [3:31:13] scene to see vice mayor grad [3:31:14] so I'm just going to cut it at [3:31:15] some point and I I support the [3:31:20] motion. [3:31:20] >> 6 to recycling. Manager yes, [3:31:28] ma'am. [3:31:29] Can you please explain again [3:31:30] why this I'm not saying that [3:31:34] you know we should whatever is [3:31:35] being proposed tonight she just [3:31:36] go along with it but maybe we [3:31:39] can meet halfway or something [3:31:40] because again can you explain [3:31:48] the consequences please. [3:31:48] >> Yes, I'm last year's cost [3:31:52] was [3:31:53] 4.1 million dollars. And that [3:31:54] would and the revenue that we [3:31:56] brought in was 4.1 million [3:32:00] dollars off of the [3:32:04] $499. The new cost is [3:32:05] 4.6 million dollars and off [3:32:05] about 4.6 million dollars were [3:32:10] looking [3:32:11] to increase the solid waste [3:32:12] rate by $76 to 5.75. And so [3:32:16] action. [3:32:17] The commission agreeing to [3:32:18] raise solid waste. We're [3:32:23] looking at. [3:32:23] Another 4, $500,000 out of [3:32:24] reserves that will need to use [3:32:27] to balance this budget now we [3:32:27] will reach out to waste [3:32:29] Management. [3:32:29] We were all asked waste [3:32:30] management to give us a new [3:32:38] proposal where we do follow [3:32:39] once a month or we do a ball [3:32:40] quarterly. We will walk out [3:32:42] what we spend for the high and [3:32:43] we do it once a month we will [3:32:43] as we do both right now once a [3:32:44] We will ask waste management to [3:32:48] give us a new proposal. [3:32:50] >> To do pop once a month [3:32:53] or quarterly. [3:32:54] >> Once every quarter now what [3:32:55] happens is because I have those [3:32:59] apartment complex is back there [3:32:59] right. And if we don't have [3:33:03] consistent. Okay people picking [3:33:04] up garbage then we continue [3:33:05] that garbage dump back there it [3:33:08] is going to issue. [3:33:09] But what this book and the book [3:33:14] so so. [3:33:15] >> So you see so commissioner, [3:33:18] the [3:33:19] are under the city's service [3:33:20] right to have a contract with [3:33:24] waste Management for correct. [3:33:24] If we come back, they MAY cut [3:33:25] back and if they don't pick up [3:33:31] you know about the weekly basis [3:33:32] that could become a problem. [3:33:33] The other thing will look at is [3:33:35] you know as as part of we have [3:33:39] the agreement for the recycle [3:33:40] paint program and the household [3:33:41] hazardous waste where we do [3:33:41] that here in the adopt [3:33:42] the streets. We'll have to look [3:33:43] at that and see if that's [3:33:47] something that we can [3:33:48] eliminate. Because again my [3:33:48] concern is right we've shared [3:33:52] these numbers with the [3:33:52] commission we have about [3:33:53] 20 million dollars in on [3:34:02] designated reserves. We have. [3:34:02] About 40 plus million dollars [3:34:03] in designated reserves and one [3:34:06] of those designated is if we [3:34:07] have a hurricane right so we [3:34:10] have money set aside for that. [3:34:11] However if we're going to news [3:34:17] 6 or 7 million dollars [3:34:18] this year. R 19 million dollars [3:34:18] goes to 12 million dollars [3:34:27] right or maybe even less and [3:34:28] so I'm I I empathetic. With the [3:34:28] cost of the fire rescue sea. [3:34:32] Right and I understand. The [3:34:39] desire to lower. [3:34:39] Right yeah, this has a reserve [3:34:40] and [3:34:44] so we. [3:34:45] >> Understand times are you [3:34:45] saying what has no is a solid [3:34:49] special revenue fund has no [3:34:50] reserves left in it. So the [3:34:55] reason [3:34:56] that again the solid waste [3:34:57] special revenue fund has no [3:35:00] reserves left and so the solid [3:35:01] waste. The people are paid in [3:35:07] the past won't be able [3:35:07] to pay moving forward the 126 [3:35:08] it won't be able to do it again [3:35:12] that the reserves. So whatever [3:35:12] reserves are needed to balance [3:35:13] this won't come from solid [3:35:16] waste and what residents of [3:35:17] pain from solid waste in the [3:35:19] past and so. [3:35:26] To to soften the blow right [3:35:27] to you is there any desire to [3:35:31] go to for 99 to 5.50 [3:35:32] 5.30 but to bring in some [3:35:32] additional revenue because [3:35:39] we're not able to right that [3:35:39] the more we use reserves, [3:35:40] right. For 5 years from now. [3:35:47] You know there could be issues [3:35:47] if property tax Casas next year [3:35:48] next budget year we only [3:35:55] lynnea's 3 million dollars. [3:35:56] The year after when it goes [3:35:57] from one 25 to $250,000 action. [3:35:59] We go [3:36:00] we lose about 4 and a half [3:36:00] million dollars when it goes [3:36:07] the $500,000. We lose about [3:36:08] 7 million dollars. Ok and these [3:36:08] services are still going to [3:36:09] have to be paid for right [3:36:10] because we still need to pick [3:36:10] up garbage, we still need to [3:36:14] have a fire Department we still [3:36:14] need our Police Department we [3:36:15] MAY not have much of anything [3:36:21] else after that but we need to [3:36:21] make sure that you know we are [3:36:22] starting to pay. You know that [3:36:26] the residents are paying for [3:36:26] the cost of the service and as [3:36:27] I said earlier right it's the [3:36:31] will of the commission is for [3:36:32] us to negotiate with waste [3:36:32] Management we can certainly do [3:36:39] that right but that negotiation [3:36:40] won't be instant. Right so if [3:36:41] it takes 2 months to come to a [3:36:46] new agreement or [3:36:47] 3 months. All right we start to [3:36:48] lose money on the service until [3:36:51] right and until we're able to [3:36:51] to get to a point where the [3:36:52] service is out the price that [3:36:57] we're charging [3:36:58] and it's a direction again from [3:36:59] the commission today is to use [3:37:01] Wright reserves to balance [3:37:02] this. We will reach out to [3:37:03] waste Management tomorrow and [3:37:09] we will ask to meet and we want [3:37:10] conversations with them about [3:37:10] all right, what is a costly do [3:37:14] ball once a month. Right does [3:37:14] not create a problem for the [3:37:15] residents it well because [3:37:16] they're going to store their [3:37:17] ball until it's available [3:37:18] they're not to be able to put [3:37:23] it out on the swell. If we do [3:37:23] both once a quarter it will be [3:37:24] an issue. If we eliminate the [3:37:26] ability to come here and dump [3:37:27] your household hazardous waste, [3:37:28] you're going to drive to one of [3:37:30] the county locations to dump [3:37:36] it. [3:37:37] Those will also drive to drop [3:37:38] to drive to one of the county [3:37:42] locations so I would ask [3:37:43] for some consideration right, [3:37:44] it's 5.75 is too much. And the [3:37:50] 4.99, isn't often can we need [3:37:51] in the middle somewhere. [3:37:56] You know 5 35 5 [3:37:57] 3540. But something so we can [3:37:57] bring in some additional [3:37:58] revenue to help offset [3:38:00] those costs. [3:38:00] >> That would be my recall okay [3:38:01] all right, let me say I'm going [3:38:04] to put that right I'm going to [3:38:04] put my advocacy separate a hat [3:38:08] on. [3:38:09] Earlier one of the commissioner [3:38:10] propose that we reduced salary [3:38:13] for a firm that come but [3:38:14] compensation that salary. [3:38:20] For the commission that's fine. [3:38:21] So overall you know where I'm [3:38:21] going and I'm going to go to [3:38:28] any way. I hear a lot of about [3:38:28] touching the reserve [3:38:33] consequences. Increase. I have [3:38:33] not heard we're going to try to [3:38:34] work find ways to fight other [3:38:37] revenues in [3:38:37] the city. He's made this MAY [3:38:38] put a pertains to do that. [3:38:42] But yet. [3:38:43] Under state is the same [3:38:43] resident that what I'm gonna [3:38:46] come with same thing is same [3:38:47] resident, we've got 5 reason [3:38:47] why we need to increase it for [3:38:53] them. [3:38:54] Other salaries where top. [3:38:55] Many of them are not looking [3:39:00] at. [3:39:00] Other projects we're not [3:39:01] looking up to see to study to [3:39:04] find out what about those. [3:39:08] Because because because a lot. [3:39:13] No no not all that. [3:39:17] The same resident that we are. [3:39:20] We want to raise up there. [3:39:21] And they say it and I'm going [3:39:27] to say it or is that too. [3:39:28] They do not get increases in [3:39:28] ivory ivory everything else [3:39:32] they do not getting it some of [3:39:33] them out of fixed income. [3:39:34] They have to find it. That's [3:39:36] what I'm looking at this. [3:39:37] But that's my job at this [3:39:40] point. [3:39:41] What I would do for them we're [3:39:41] we're we're getting other [3:39:45] moneys from say ok this this [3:39:46] cut those and applying for [3:39:49] that. [3:39:50] We had an issue earlier in is [3:39:55] going to come back again. [3:39:59] history show that there [3:40:05] residents suffer from. [3:40:07] A garbage company. [3:40:08] It was about to me and all we [3:40:08] have is never not been [3:40:11] addressed. If that been [3:40:16] addressed. [3:40:17] To make it even worse. This is [3:40:18] the same thing we discussed [3:40:21] right now, ok I understand [3:40:22] we've got to increase increase. [3:40:27] What is it would go. [3:40:28] When is it going to be time for [3:40:28] us to just say ok enough is [3:40:29] enough this dual good study [3:40:30] and figured out where we're [3:40:30] going to find more of these. [3:40:39] That's what I'm going to ask. [3:40:43] A tentative different [3:40:44] ways there jumping from 1 one [3:40:45] attempt to 10 to 1010 stories [3:40:49] just not going make it there. [3:40:49] It threw the chair mayor. [3:40:55] Okay so so. [3:40:55] We don't have as series. [3:40:58] We missed us opportunities. [3:41:01] With many other thing [3:41:01] to wear expert could see well [3:41:02] let's look at the step into [3:41:07] that with this tap into that [3:41:07] one yet to come. The commission [3:41:08] is waiting been waiting for a [3:41:11] long time to find options to [3:41:12] where you can which many great [3:41:12] taking. Now what we're doing [3:41:17] here. It's not what's going to [3:41:18] cut that cut it all. So at this [3:41:18] point the motion is to either [3:41:23] we're going to set that we're [3:41:24] not going to separate separate [3:41:24] that threw the chair. A 43 you [3:41:29] have the floor. [3:41:30] >> Is there I know we're not [3:41:31] entitled city but is there any [3:41:35] way that we can meet badly [3:41:36] midway because I know what [3:41:36] what's being proposed to 9. [3:41:39] We're late. [3:41:40] The recommendation is tonight [3:41:41] but is there any way that week [3:41:43] the midway police. [3:41:44] Or maybe we can come up with a [3:41:44] figure maybe we can get from [3:41:53] the residents. [3:41:59] I mean. We. [3:42:00] >> If the commission wants to [3:42:00] come up with an alternative [3:42:03] number. They [3:42:03] certainly can right I mean [3:42:08] every every dollar I [3:42:08] did too. The for 99 is lesson [3:42:09] reserves that we're going to [3:42:11] have to commit to this. [3:42:11] But again it's it's the design [3:42:12] it's the will of the [3:42:18] commission. If the commission [3:42:19] wants us to you know commit [3:42:19] additional reserves to this [3:42:27] that we will we will figure out [3:42:27] how to do that and will commit [3:42:28] those reserves. I can tell you [3:42:36] all right and this is no secret [3:42:37] right in our budget plan right [3:42:38] to to balance the budget at 7.4 [3:42:40] we've talked about this [3:42:41] internally before right it will [3:42:41] affect the employees [3:42:42] aren't simple. [3:42:43] >> Right and I'm not saying it [3:42:44] will affect will affect [3:42:44] employees every one of the [3:42:45] employees and I'm not saying [3:42:52] that is a threat. [3:42:52] >> I'm I'm just saying that [3:42:53] we're trying right there is an [3:42:55] increase in services right. [3:42:59] Diesel fuel is almost $7 [3:43:00] a gallon. Right when this [3:43:01] contract last year diesel fuel [3:43:05] was $2 a gallon. And so every [3:43:06] garbage truck right runs on [3:43:06] diesel fuel. Salaries have gone [3:43:10] up insurance has gone up and [3:43:11] so everything is going up every [3:43:11] year. And so all we're trying [3:43:17] to do is those expenses that [3:43:18] are passed on to us, we're just [3:43:19] passing them along if you look [3:43:22] at this budget right you'll [3:43:23] see we're not adding anything [3:43:23] to reserves to the solid waste [3:43:26] reserves. It's not like that if [3:43:27] we go to 5.30 right we're going [3:43:32] to [3:43:33] be putting $45 from every [3:43:33] resident into reserves, so [3:43:38] we've got a reserve. [3:43:38] This is the 5.75 doesn't need [3:43:39] to build a reserve and so if [3:43:42] the commission wants to [3:43:43] consider. Midway fee [3:43:44] that's fine. Like I said we [3:43:45] will reach out to waste [3:43:50] Management tomorrow and the [3:43:51] next day. And we were asked to [3:43:52] sit down with them and have a [3:43:57] conversation with them to say [3:43:58] you know we need to hold our. [3:43:58] We're holding ourselves from [3:44:02] flock. What can we do with them [3:44:03] that will help our assessment [3:44:04] what our cross lot and the [3:44:06] whole report back to you with [3:44:12] the options that they give us. [3:44:12] >> So at this point I make a [3:44:13] motion that maintain the [3:44:18] existing great. [3:44:19] As you mentioned city manager [3:44:19] at least continue the fight [3:44:24] with the waste too. [3:44:25] Find other options said, yes, [3:44:31] Sir chair and we have [3:44:31] to move. I like that you would [3:44:32] like to speak many times [3:44:34] because we make a good good go [3:44:35] at it again to the resident had [3:44:39] greater recognition for a. [3:44:39] >> City manager our staff here [3:44:40] you guys work extremely hard [3:44:42] trying to find ways. [3:44:45] >> 2. [3:44:45] Supplement ok so I need you [3:44:46] guys to understand that we [3:44:52] think I mean they're they're [3:44:52] hard workers. Ok so we're on [3:44:53] the days when we say we need to [3:44:56] find other ways, Nick cetera. [3:45:01] We are a non title. So. [3:45:01] We're not privy to certain [3:45:02] things and so we're really [3:45:04] putting ourselves in a [3:45:08] situation [3:45:09] a night and unfortunately what [3:45:09] you guys are not going to [3:45:12] really see this effect until [3:45:13] maybe about a couple of months [3:45:13] from today a year from today [3:45:17] and then that were forced to [3:45:18] make certain changes police can [3:45:20] start thank MADAM Commissioner. [3:45:24] >> He says it is [3:45:25] 5 votes. The item is we're [3:45:25] going to move with it or not [3:45:28] move forward when it comes to [3:45:29] everybody to conflict Constance [3:45:29] do I feel you want to increase [3:45:32] in our resident or dog us [3:45:36] imports that come [3:45:37] down to evraz have the votes to [3:45:37] move it is being moved and [3:45:40] seconded correct. [3:45:40] How to make the most time in [3:45:41] motion already made a motion. [3:45:48] I did not hear a second is [3:45:49] there a second. Okay it's been [3:45:49] seconded by vice mayor, the [3:45:55] motion is to maintain it or [3:45:56] maintain that the system the [3:45:56] way it is or accept it Somerset [3:45:59] he's. [3:46:00] >> Yet the mission has to be a [3:46:03] motion to approve this one. [3:46:04] Yes to maintain to make an [3:46:08] assessment. [3:46:08] Keep it the way it is doing so [3:46:12] which which the motion to [3:46:13] you making so they get which [3:46:13] motion to to make to keep the [3:46:18] system the way it is ok. [3:46:19] Motion to amend to to show [3:46:19] manatee assessment as it was in [3:46:20] the [3:46:22] past year. [3:46:22] >> Commissioner Martin I'm the [3:46:26] chair. [3:46:27] Where do we stand if we decide [3:46:31] to go 50%. [3:46:32] >> If you amendment you go for [3:46:32] it because it's 2 on 2 [3:46:35] different amendments, right you [3:46:36] 2 different we've got to go [3:46:38] with the first one 1st. [3:46:40] Motion to amend I mean what [3:46:45] an incorrect. [3:46:45] >> I would go with the an [3:46:46] amended amendment or do we go [3:46:48] with the [3:46:49] First Amendment should be the [3:46:50] First Amendment to be the push [3:46:51] to pass in [3:46:52] the fight because the first one [3:46:52] is to know the first one is to [3:46:55] go ahead. [3:47:02] >> You know the what we had [3:47:03] this particular resolution was [3:47:04] to set its I 75 right. You're [3:47:06] making a motion to to keep it [3:47:10] the same racing. Yes. [3:47:11] Now there is and what she'd [3:47:12] like to make a motion to to [3:47:15] make to make the increase [3:47:21] basically. 50% [3:47:22] of this $76 that's been put out [3:47:23] there which is $30 more than [3:47:28] the 4.99. [3:47:28] What it 9 plus 38 is what she'd [3:47:29] like to make is a motion. [3:47:33] So. [3:47:34] We which motion prevails that's [3:47:35] a question I believe that you [3:47:40] have to [3:47:40] go first by the second thing [3:47:41] which is actually a mandate to [3:47:43] keep the rate [3:47:44] for us. You know the second [3:47:45] Amendment ok this second [3:47:47] amended amendment, yeah. [3:47:52] So the second time. [3:47:54] >> have made by I hear a [3:47:55] second on commissioner those [3:47:55] crickets motion is there a [3:47:58] second on that second on that [3:48:07] please. [3:48:08] >> Okay then you go with that's [3:48:08] local that's I 37. Call the [3:48:15] roll. Call the roll please. [3:48:16] >> Commissioner Martin I'm [3:48:17] sorry the first role before the [3:48:27] for the [3:48:28] 5.37. That's 500 Cuts. Remember [3:48:28] there's no regrets. Yes. [3:48:31] Vice mayor Bustamante. [3:48:32] >> Is yes but I can I ask a [3:48:41] good question. [3:48:42] I want to MISS A I have a would [3:48:46] happen [3:48:52] take it the blue can. [3:48:52] >> The But you're not in a [3:48:53] position to do that because [3:48:57] that's in and that's an [3:48:57] agreement between the and [3:49:03] believes company. So. [3:49:04] You can do that the city [3:49:04] manager to look into that, but [3:49:07] it's not really changing [3:49:08] anything because the changes to [3:49:08] be the agreement between the 2. [3:49:14] The city and the management [3:49:15] company in that. You got to see [3:49:16] what I'm saying is that up to [3:49:18] the city Commission to change [3:49:19] the terms of an agreement that [3:49:22] already executed. [3:49:22] So you could suggest that they [3:49:23] can work on that, but you can [3:49:26] do you can't vote to change [3:49:31] that right now. [3:49:31] >> We can probably save some [3:49:32] money and that you know, yeah [3:49:34] but I'm saying that you can [3:49:35] direct the city manager to look [3:49:39] into that okay but [3:49:39] it's what it's not a one-sided [3:49:40] thing it's an agreement with [3:49:40] between [3:49:41] 2 parties. So if you already [3:49:42] have an agreement with with the [3:49:47] the waste Management company. [3:49:51] To do the blue can [3:49:52] do whatever. It's the it's the [3:49:53] now you can't change it just by [3:49:58] making a decision and the days. [3:49:58] You can look into that. But [3:49:59] it's on video so you can modify [3:50:06] yourself right now the the the. [3:50:07] There was an amendment that was [3:50:09] proposed and then a [3:50:09] second amendment that was [3:50:10] befalls so we took the if they [3:50:15] take the second one that they [3:50:16] want to the first one. It said [3:50:16] it was so right now the [3:50:19] amendment that people are [3:50:27] voting on was the fight 37. [3:50:28] That it would be us the there [3:50:29] would be an increase of 30. [3:50:31] A top $8. [3:50:32] 38 dollars I did not have any [3:50:34] single [3:50:40] >> we can say those the U.S.. [3:50:41] >> He said yes and so you are [3:50:49] yes, yes to port. [3:50:49] Yeah, I say yes but I mean I'm [3:50:50] going to be looking for that [3:50:56] the taking of a yeah okay. [3:50:56] >> Commissioner Louis yes, and [3:50:57] they are going to know. Thank [3:51:00] you. [3:51:01] >> All right check just one [3:51:02] quick question. Well if it's on [3:51:04] us items over the island just [3:51:09] want to support it. Yes. [3:51:10] We do need to talk always [3:51:10] management because after [3:51:12] meeting with [3:51:13] them personally she told me we [3:51:13] don't recycle so we are getting [3:51:16] charged for what we do need to [3:51:17] talk with them on the front of [3:51:20] the [3:51:23] service provider was it just [3:51:23] wasn't the exact point we made [3:51:26] why we increase and a resident. [3:51:27] >> When they have a point there [3:51:27] to pay for something that they [3:51:31] don't and that's what I'm [3:51:31] seeing some point that was [3:51:32] increase even one penny on the [3:51:37] East is the city got me [3:51:37] Brooklyn that one are we is [3:51:38] there any way can we find is is [3:51:40] it what illegal wood with that [3:51:40] with that request to keep it [3:51:41] there and just put in the work [3:51:44] something that's what it is [3:51:45] when so if this is already more [3:51:46] in the final we just for the [3:51:48] record is just for the record [3:51:49] we pay by that time of year [3:51:49] that they [3:51:51] pick up. [3:51:52] >> Whether it's in the Blue can [3:51:53] or the ground can and we pay by [3:51:55] the time age and for the [3:51:56] garbage that's [3:51:59] picked off. [3:52:00] >> As well as the ball so I [3:52:00] want to but when I when I spoke [3:52:07] with says it can really is just [3:52:08] a black and truthfully exactly [3:52:08] so just all right, that's a [3:52:12] look into it. [3:52:13] I but it turns so there's no [3:52:13] other motions and that's what [3:52:16] this is done. There's this one [3:52:21] is to the k s good okay. [3:52:22] You have the floor for you have [3:52:22] the floor for an exciting for [3:52:28] c. [3:52:29] It's almost done been after [3:52:30] this meeting that we have [3:52:32] another meeting it is almost a [3:52:33] good resolution at the City [3:52:34] Commission at the city of North [3:52:39] Lauderdale Florida. [3:52:40] >> Relating to the provision of [3:52:40] storm water management provided [3:52:42] by the city's storm water [3:52:43] management utility. In the city [3:52:43] of North Lauderdale Florida [3:52:49] approving the storm water [3:52:49] management utility assistant [3:52:50] Lee of $200 per the all year [3:52:57] for the fiscal year. Beginning [3:52:57] on OCTOBER one 2026. Imposing a [3:52:58] stormwater management utility [3:52:59] assessment against this as [3:52:59] property located within the [3:53:00] city of North Florida deal for [3:53:04] the fiscal year beginning on [3:53:05] OCTOBER one 2026, providing for [3:53:06] severability providing for [3:53:08] conflicts and providing an [3:53:15] effective date. [3:53:16] >> See measures go parish and [3:53:16] MISTER Mayor our budget manager [3:53:25] will present his shore. [3:53:26] >> In regards to the storm [3:53:32] fiscal year 2027 [3:53:33] Budget revenues. The budget [3:53:33] itself is calm it's a [3:53:38] 15 million for 15 700. And how [3:53:43] basically budget and [3:53:43] balance that West through [3:53:48] propose assessment of [3:53:49] 200 for the single family and a [3:53:50] 100 fold them multifamily which [3:53:59] would have generated 3 a little [3:54:00] over 3 million dollars. Grants [3:54:00] and other revenues that we [3:54:01] expect to collect would be [3:54:04] 11 million 3.48. [3:54:05] >> And then this fun does [3:54:08] almost a million dollars in [3:54:08] funds balance. So that would [3:54:09] offset the gap so that's how [3:54:10] that this fund was budgeted to [3:54:13] that 15. [3:54:19] >> Million for [3:54:20] 15 700. Now its really drive [3:54:24] that is that we're looking [3:54:25] to come to fun of the [3:54:25] silverlake strain and [3:54:32] improvement. Which is up for [3:54:32] 5.9 million dollar project and [3:54:33] also the tablets center [3:54:36] pavement and drainage so those [3:54:37] are the 2 major projects that [3:54:38] fund that fund that strive and [3:54:40] that that we're looking to fun [3:54:46] for [3:54:47] and that's what's driving the [3:54:48] budget of that 15 million [3:54:50] dollars. A little over. And [3:54:54] that completes that. [3:54:54] >> Okay this item is open to [3:55:06] the public for any comments. [3:55:07] I get good evening again. [3:55:11] Mayor commissioners. [3:55:11] In this our search for the [3:55:12] record set to name my name is [3:55:15] Linda, Ashby I'm a resident of [3:55:19] North Lauderdale. [3:55:20] The proposed water control [3:55:20] district not at full assessment [3:55:21] is what we're discussing in my [3:55:22] particular situation, my annual [3:55:25] assessed. [3:55:26] >> It's a storm water [3:55:29] assessment. [3:55:39] Storm water assessment. [3:55:39] The increase is from 95 to [3:55:46] $200. [3:55:47] That's the water control [3:56:04] district. [3:56:05] >> Sure you know the time for [3:56:06] someone else at this later on [3:56:10] you can come back. [3:56:10] If you search and yes, okay, [3:56:11] you could you let someone else [3:56:19] come back, yes. [3:56:20] >> Okay the last year, so I'm [3:56:20] just wondering we got 5.9 [3:56:22] million for several lakes [3:56:23] training to isn't several lakes [3:56:23] a H.O.A. And isn't that they're [3:56:28] or is this. So unlike our Canal [3:56:28] program were. They can drain [3:56:29] out because there's. Everything [3:56:33] they do has nowhere to go so [3:56:34] far. You guys asked about that [3:56:38] we know. [3:56:39] Should the city be paying for [3:56:39] that or is that something that [3:56:40] we keep a close eye on the [3:56:41] question ok we'll have city [3:56:41] manager and so that made it on [3:56:43] to thank you. [3:56:49] >> Next person please. [3:56:50] Your recent give can you bring [3:56:58] back the threat of a slight. [3:56:59] >> Yes so what does that shot [3:57:00] full [3:57:01] commercial properties. 212 [3:57:02] single-family on that form with [3:57:04] the family what about [3:57:09] commercial properties. [3:57:13] My my special assessment on the [3:57:14] specific one. No plot of the [3:57:15] storm with that assessment went [3:57:20] up from [3:57:20] 15 not from 6500 total of [3:57:24] $9400. 50% increase $3,000. [3:57:25] And I'm still getting gay [3:57:29] flooded when it rains heavily. [3:57:30] >> is the administration of the [3:57:31] vote to provide an answer for [3:57:38] both questioner. MISTER Mayor [3:57:39] we can silver Lake village is [3:57:44] I'm not in a Chile Association, [3:57:44] it is the streets between 76th [3:57:45] Avenue and 80th Avenue. The [3:57:48] country 10 court off of [3:57:49] Kimberly Boulevard so it is [3:57:50] just regular city streets. [3:57:53] And [3:57:54] there is a small portion has [3:57:54] drainage the rest is not have [3:57:59] drainage and so this project [3:58:00] would come in all new drainage [3:58:01] n and then obviously the roads [3:58:09] will be repaved and there be [3:58:09] some medians putin as well and [3:58:10] some landscaping as for the [3:58:14] cost for. [3:58:15] Commercial we have to look at [3:58:16] that his square footage and we [3:58:23] could get back in touch with [3:58:24] him and let him know you know [3:58:25] what the cost is per unit per [3:58:30] square foot 4. For for [3:58:31] commercial. And then as for the [3:58:32] drainage remember storm water [3:58:34] is where the city piping is [3:58:35] and so in a parking lot that's [3:58:36] private property. And so the [3:58:40] parking lot would need to be [3:58:41] able to drain out to our system [3:58:45] and then once it gets to [3:58:46] our system. The eventual goal [3:58:47] the pump station will get rid [3:58:49] of that water quicker so we [3:58:50] can looking and we'll get back [3:58:57] to him on the exact costs. [3:58:58] I believe that cover your will [3:58:58] surface or consent. I it go [3:59:05] ahead real quick, yes. [3:59:06] >> And they often on a couple [3:59:06] of them one time those would [3:59:09] become permanent. [3:59:10] You know what you're talking [3:59:11] here about doing this specific [3:59:18] will on those lakes. Okay [3:59:18] Wilson, the former new another [3:59:19] Lake or people like the one I'm [3:59:20] seeing the non dot com. Many [3:59:20] would it would be Americana [3:59:21] next you're going to see a [3:59:23] decrease. It's been on full [3:59:25] of them. Well forget [3:59:29] about it. [3:59:29] >> MISTER Mayor if I could yes [3:59:30] you MAY Storm water solid waste [3:59:36] and water control district are [3:59:37] every year assessments. Fires [3:59:38] been the only thing that [3:59:42] historically has gone for a [3:59:42] period of time for 5 years that [3:59:43] study that's done incorporates [3:59:46] all of the fire costs for 5 [3:59:47] years. So these are each year. [3:59:47] The this is based on what the [3:59:51] budget is with the capital [3:59:53] projects are. So I [3:59:54] can't guarantee next year there [3:59:55] will be a reduction there maybe [3:59:58] reduction there MAY be the [3:59:58] same. Maybe a little bit more. [4:00:02] So. [4:00:03] But it's it's it by year and by [4:00:09] budget item. [4:00:10] Does that make sense thank you. [4:00:19] Yes, you're recognized. [4:00:19] >> My name is Linda, Ashby I'm [4:00:20] a resident of North This is for [4:00:22] the storm [4:00:23] water assessment again I would [4:00:29] like to oppose [4:00:30] proposition because for me [4:00:30] that's an increase of 43% in a [4:00:36] single year from 36 to 36 [4:00:37] that's a $36 increase. Although [4:00:38] 36 MAY sound insignificant to [4:00:43] some in the city. [4:00:43] It does not stand alone as a [4:00:44] resident and summer tennis Lee [4:00:48] facing increases and the other [4:00:49] areas like fire rescue water [4:00:51] control and of course we've now [4:00:52] renegotiate those when combined [4:00:52] these charges create a [4:00:55] substantial final 5 financial [4:00:59] burden on on my part. [4:01:00] I recognize that North [4:01:01] Lauderdale must maintain its [4:01:05] drainage systems and added and [4:01:06] address flooding. I I live here [4:01:06] and I understand the importance [4:01:08] of it effective. [4:01:09] Storm waters. Management [4:01:09] however, residents deserve [4:01:13] could documentation showing [4:01:18] exactly why 43% increase [4:01:19] is necessary which specific [4:01:19] projects it will fund how the [4:01:23] amount was calculated what [4:01:24] spending reductions or [4:01:24] alternative funding sources, [4:01:27] we're considered again. I state [4:01:28] as a senior citizen living here [4:01:29] on a fixed income. I can't I [4:01:35] cannot increase my income by [4:01:36] 43% when Evers someone whatever [4:01:42] one of my [4:01:43] expenses rises Imus pretty [4:01:43] prioritize reduce spending and [4:01:47] phase and cost over time I [4:01:48] really suggest that the city [4:01:52] consider gradual increases [4:01:53] and see funding of these [4:01:59] specific non ad valorem issues. [4:02:00] I emailed I just e-mailed you [4:02:00] regarding a possible solution I [4:02:04] understand that you have stated [4:02:05] that you're very concerned [4:02:06] about all the issues and you [4:02:08] want to educate us and you do [4:02:09] believe that these increases [4:02:15] are necessary. [4:02:15] However as a senior citizen MAY [4:02:16] I propose and I've I've sent [4:02:21] you the email to at consider [4:02:22] a gradual increase so that [4:02:23] we're not so significantly [4:02:26] burdened by the cost for me [4:02:27] this year, this burden is just [4:02:28] overwhelming it's actually an [4:02:30] entire month of my income so I [4:02:33] will have [4:02:34] to live. 12 months on 11 months [4:02:35] of income or go get a job which [4:02:37] I'm looking for looking for [4:02:41] somebody. [4:02:41] With experience. Thank you, [4:02:50] thank you. [4:02:51] >> Okay any further questions [4:02:51] public have been an okay Kent [4:02:55] yes. [4:02:56] Guys this is the last time I'm [4:02:56] coming to the podium today, [4:03:00] okay. [4:03:01] When we bite when we buy [4:03:01] investment properties on it [4:03:06] when we did what every investor [4:03:07] when they look at investment [4:03:08] property to an unknown that [4:03:10] insult Florida you can [4:03:11] calculate you real estate taxes [4:03:11] has about 2%. If you buy a [4:03:14] property for any and all of you [4:03:18] know in [4:03:19] your head. My real estate taxes [4:03:20] are going to be more list when [4:03:22] it could that Smollett tomorrow [4:03:23] from can be 25 can be 19 that's [4:03:30] about. [4:03:30] When I woke up my ducks belief [4:03:31] the if this little bit to get [4:03:32] approved. We have about [4:03:32] 3% and that probably won't be [4:03:33] the highest tax bracket that [4:03:40] I've seen in South Florida. [4:03:41] So bear that in mind I know [4:03:42] that the commission is the and [4:03:44] mounting mentioned, hey we need [4:03:48] money to [4:03:48] support it. We think I'm going [4:03:49] to come from one place it could [4:03:49] still come from [4:03:50] another broken. Both of them [4:03:51] just ended up with a different [4:03:57] cities are able to operate on [4:03:58] a budget. I the real estate [4:03:59] realistic bucks side of the [4:04:02] budget about [4:04:03] 2%. 2.2 1.9 that's about where [4:04:07] we tease and that's. [4:04:08] I and and I don't want to win [4:04:09] when I'm sitting here and I [4:04:12] know I'm about 3% something [4:04:12] doesn't add up something [4:04:17] doesn't [4:04:17] add up. Now that 2% is up 2% [4:04:18] from current market rate and [4:04:22] current market rates of been [4:04:23] going up dramatically in the [4:04:25] last few years. [4:04:26] So its its Levis thing the same [4:04:27] at home to the cd you're [4:04:31] getting 2% every year from an [4:04:31] increased amount again on [4:04:32] booking show normal Homestead [4:04:35] properties. The top of the [4:04:40] funnel. Thank you. [4:04:41] >> back to take public comments [4:04:47] is close. [4:04:48] Because now he's back to the [4:05:01] commission for discussion. [4:05:02] It's been a discussion well I [4:05:02] mean it with now I see the [4:05:08] cities. [4:05:09] Significant trainees. Issue [4:05:09] that we have. And that storm [4:05:15] water. Infra section moves. [4:05:26] Those needs are real. [4:05:26] But nevertheless at this time. [4:05:27] And again under the current [4:05:31] circumstances. [4:05:31] We heard the resident, many of [4:05:35] them talk about the same thing. [4:05:40] Again out like to see the city. [4:05:44] Continue to [4:05:50] infrastructure funding. [4:05:51] Pursue grants if I can can say [4:05:54] that. [4:05:55] Other spots of the funding [4:06:00] sources. [4:06:00] I have to take into [4:06:01] consideration, what the [4:06:04] residents are asking for at [4:06:04] this point at this point in [4:06:08] time. [4:06:09] Didn't we have another option I [4:06:09] didn't have any option right [4:06:15] there except 2. Approve it. [4:06:16] I'm not prepared to support an [4:06:21] increase in this assessment. [4:06:22] Support please yeah support [4:06:23] maintain distance, it is just [4:06:29] under 8. Well the city continue [4:06:30] to. Find grants. Or any other [4:06:33] source that. So. [4:06:34] I just made that motion there [4:06:37] and a mandate. [4:06:46] To keep the route same has. [4:06:46] Do I have a second victim. [4:06:53] His second car to the chair. [4:06:53] >> In regards to the We [4:06:54] actually have 11.3 million [4:07:00] dollars [4:07:01] in grants. That we're budgeting [4:07:02] for 2027 in this fund ok well I [4:07:04] understand, but is this is not [4:07:05] my eyes to mask I Dana finding [4:07:09] saying many other sources. [4:07:09] >> That many of the South [4:07:10] because all I'm going to make [4:07:16] it make it clear. [4:07:16] If I have come in as a [4:07:17] Commission if I have to accept [4:07:20] everything that's presented to [4:07:21] me then there's no need for it [4:07:21] for us to present to make to [4:07:24] vote. [4:07:25] If I'm told I have we have to [4:07:26] accept state accept everything [4:07:31] we can at it that's what we [4:07:31] have and give it to vote. [4:07:32] I mean the motion myself based [4:07:38] on what I hear I've been [4:07:39] hearing over not just in this [4:07:40] role. All across the sea. [4:07:43] Resident. This that this timing [4:07:43] there so back to back to 2 [4:07:46] draw. Drawing board. [4:07:47] To figure out other ways to [4:07:50] fund revenues for the [4:07:51] city too I cannot charge just [4:07:54] myself, I'm just one bowl. [4:07:55] I would not be was tonight if I [4:07:55] increase in a generation [4:08:00] confirming tonight. So he's [4:08:01] 5 votes. He's been where it's [4:08:05] been more than second it. [4:08:08] >> Mayor yes [4:08:09] and I asked consecutive place [4:08:09] and so I said that you did the [4:08:13] that was by vice mayor kriseman [4:08:14] has been more than second and [4:08:15] that's ok thank you through the [4:08:17] chair mayor well. [4:08:18] How we're going to go with this [4:08:23] again we made a motion already. [4:08:24] I guess if there's any question [4:08:25] nobody answered the question [4:08:28] now we move on to the motion is [4:08:29] been more than seconded yes. [4:08:31] Yes, and to say that. [4:08:36] >> When there's a motion. [4:08:37] Even if it doesn't it doesn't [4:08:38] say motion for discussion in [4:08:38] just [4:08:39] a motion. You don't need to [4:08:39] spend some MAY find this [4:08:46] question when you see motion [4:08:47] to local. Motion. Whatever [4:08:47] motion it is you get a second. [4:08:52] He has an opportunity for [4:08:52] discussion. Right after that. [4:08:58] And you get the opportunity to. [4:08:59] Anyone who wants to speak that [4:09:00] put motion second discussion [4:09:03] then vote. [4:09:04] >> Thank you what it was it was [4:09:05] more to a cool thing to prove [4:09:07] right. [4:09:07] >> Even if you move to approve [4:09:08] whatever you call it if you [4:09:13] call it motion for this [4:09:13] question motion simply motion [4:09:14] once you make a motion and you [4:09:19] get a second. Yes, the gap [4:09:20] between the vote. And the [4:09:20] witches there's a gap for [4:09:26] discussion purposes. That you [4:09:28] get them. And opportunity to [4:09:28] discuss it. No matter what you [4:09:32] call it. Once a motion is made. [4:09:33] And you have a second. There's [4:09:33] a gap for discussion, then you [4:09:36] vote. [4:09:36] >> I what I where I'm going to [4:09:37] disagree with you I'm not [4:09:40] saying [4:09:40] I mean nobody usually we will [4:09:41] move want to move to approve [4:09:45] it. [4:09:45] We have the second it it would [4:09:46] go to the roll call right [4:09:46] that's [4:09:49] because usually. [4:09:50] >> You do sometimes I've notice [4:09:53] you do it here it's not [4:09:54] necessary. But you do a motion [4:09:55] to discuss and you get a second [4:09:58] then you have a discussion. [4:09:59] Then you move to approve, did [4:10:02] you get a second that he [4:10:02] does vote. But since you didn't [4:10:03] have a discussion to you you [4:10:08] just had a motion. And a second [4:10:09] there's a there is an [4:10:10] opportunity to discuss before [4:10:14] you vote okay in that case, I'm [4:10:15] going to ask you if you could [4:10:16] standardize it for us yet we [4:10:19] have it because otherwise it is [4:10:20] just you know is is that it is [4:10:20] about its goals once there's a [4:10:21] motion in emotion. Whatever you [4:10:22] wanna call it a motion to [4:10:23] approve a motion to discuss [4:10:25] motion. [4:10:27] >> What does a motion. There's [4:10:28] a second. There's an [4:10:28] opportunity right after that [4:10:33] with this question. So if you [4:10:34] don't have any motions that [4:10:35] discussion you just have a [4:10:35] regular motion to approve. [4:10:36] You don't even have to do that [4:10:37] discussion what he does on [4:10:41] making a motion to pull you get [4:10:42] a second. And you have an [4:10:42] opportunity for discussion [4:10:46] before the vote. Okay so I [4:10:47] asked her to be clear that's [4:10:47] fine yeah, you know what that [4:10:48] means after [4:10:53] that after. [4:10:53] >> Even though we made a motion [4:10:54] to approve it yes will be [4:10:58] seconded yes and then because [4:10:58] you know the motion to don't [4:10:59] need anymore. Ok motion you [4:11:00] just have a discussion to join [4:11:01] the discussion that doesn't [4:11:02] change anything meaning in your [4:11:02] motion is still in the floor [4:11:05] the second is still [4:11:07] >> after [4:11:08] the discussion. Then you take a [4:11:09] vocal guess that's the point [4:11:13] and probably know ocean is [4:11:15] okay. Through the [4:11:16] >> Yes, that is a part of [4:11:16] Robert rules that's what we [4:11:21] actually learned think current [4:11:22] me to that I just want if you [4:11:27] can for [4:11:28] us please. He said that those [4:11:29] 3,011.11 million could we have [4:11:33] to match. [4:11:38] >> So okay [4:11:39] to chair the grants and other [4:11:39] revenues is 11.3 grant there's [4:11:43] grants and other revenues [4:11:48] that's 11.3 and we do have [4:11:49] to match. Funds that were were [4:11:50] get in in regards to that so [4:11:54] the [4:11:55] 5.9 and the 4 million dollars [4:11:55] for this time was sent to those [4:12:02] are to be matched. [4:12:03] >> So when I really want you to [4:12:04] say that again we had 11.3 in [4:12:07] grants. And we must match. [4:12:07] All right. And so if we choose [4:12:08] got to do we lose that [4:12:09] 11.3. [4:12:10] >> We were all saying that [4:12:10] Sarah leaders that they would [4:12:17] have to figure out how we will [4:12:18] match it. So if this fund [4:12:18] cannot support that we'll have [4:12:21] to rely on [4:12:21] other sources. So are [4:12:22] identified other revenue [4:12:25] sources to be [4:12:26] able to a match that so we [4:12:26] don't lose it, but it is a [4:12:32] requirement. [4:12:33] So in other words these [4:12:36] projects will be funded. [4:12:37] If we don't identify additional [4:12:37] funding sources now right [4:12:43] because right now on the table [4:12:44] we have 11 million dollar fine. [4:12:54] It is yes we can. [4:12:56] Commission just to add that up [4:12:56] to the total cost of the [4:12:57] project is that 15 plus Mary, [4:12:58] so if we don't match it or [4:13:01] approve it. [4:13:05] >> The project is short [4:13:06] funded so we have how much [4:13:06] would be short funded by the [4:13:10] additional [4:13:11] for Marion. That's that we need [4:13:12] in matching funds so right now. [4:13:14] That's when she too. You know [4:13:19] explained we had it grants. [4:13:24] The revenue that tolls [4:13:24] 11 plus million. The total cost [4:13:28] of the project is 15 to press [4:13:29] Mary so there's a short fall [4:13:29] that the assessment was [4:13:34] supported the additional funds [4:13:35] that I need it to complete the [4:13:38] project. So if we [4:13:39] vote no. We will leave its [4:13:39] grants. Yes, they can get up to [4:13:42] half of the amount that you've [4:13:46] expanded. [4:13:46] Thank you let me ask the [4:13:51] question there. [4:13:52] >> If we're going there we can [4:13:53] go straight to that question [4:13:55] there. 7 lakes [4:13:56] drainage improvement as well as [4:13:57] time was centered paving and [4:13:59] drainage improvement. [4:14:00] Is that a new projects been [4:14:04] there for years. [4:14:04] When is it going to say is [4:14:05] going to start this year. [4:14:08] She approached the support if [4:14:09] it's approved tonight. What is [4:14:13] it going to start. [4:14:13] But public works answer. [4:14:16] Stir project. [4:14:21] The next year. [4:14:22] So take state for the record. [4:14:22] New book courage on. It's a [4:14:25] republic works utilities [4:14:28] director. [4:14:29] >> So the supermax drainage [4:14:29] improvement that's a [4:14:35] engineering right now and that [4:14:36] should be going out middle of [4:14:37] 2027. The Denver center is also [4:14:40] and engineering design right [4:14:41] now. That is expected to go out [4:14:43] and act 20 some early 20. [4:14:48] So. [4:14:49] >> How does that can change the [4:14:50] weather. We keep the rate [4:14:52] assessment the same way. [4:14:55] How he's going [4:14:55] how does it impact it well as [4:14:56] it was stated before these are [4:14:57] great for the projects that [4:15:02] require misinformed. [4:15:03] >> So the much closer coming [4:15:03] out of reserves. And we have to [4:15:06] put that money back so that's [4:15:13] why we're result for us. [4:15:13] That's in your my concern is [4:15:21] again. [4:15:21] So finest wherever that [4:15:22] department is to figure out [4:15:25] other ways to find out. If we [4:15:25] we for to keep it at the same [4:15:30] that's on my my consent. [4:15:31] And so we we are still actively [4:15:32] looking for additional Grant [4:15:36] funds so we have spoken with [4:15:37] quite a few people in. Focused [4:15:37] on release, but you know it's [4:15:46] going to take time. Okay so [4:15:46] that I I and join you at this [4:15:47] point it means we have not [4:15:49] exist is everything so far we [4:15:50] have not correct some of that [4:15:50] note we all came so I could [4:15:53] staff recently participated in [4:15:59] a call with time. [4:16:00] >> Department of emergency [4:16:00] management fema and the federal [4:16:06] site they have how money [4:16:06] available for resiliency [4:16:07] projects and so we're looking [4:16:13] to see if this. [4:16:14] If the temperature Boulevard [4:16:14] project would qualify as a [4:16:17] resiliency project and if [4:16:18] it does. We will apply for a [4:16:18] grant for the other continued [4:16:22] see part [4:16:23] would be sometimes you can use [4:16:24] federal money to match a state [4:16:27] grant. But sometimes you can [4:16:28] so that's something also that [4:16:28] our Grant writer it will be [4:16:29] looking into to make sure that [4:16:30] we can apply for not so we can [4:16:33] apply. [4:16:34] >> ok so what's the total for [4:16:37] total. [4:16:38] For the project despite any [4:16:39] both project there was a total. [4:16:43] I mean it required because [4:16:44] we're talking about for years [4:16:49] and years. What is the total. [4:16:49] Total for the tournament. [4:16:54] What the commission. [4:16:57] Commissioner that [4:16:58] was a it was a 5.2 million [4:16:58] dollar grant we have to match [4:17:01] with 5.2. So that's 10.4 [4:17:07] million. [4:17:08] So the lakes it's a 5.9 million [4:17:09] we have to mess with the fight. [4:17:13] So [4:17:14] well for the with the grand [4:17:17] jury. [4:17:18] I became okay that mimic made [4:17:19] myself clear to me myself [4:17:25] clear. With the silver lakes [4:17:26] drainage improvement and time [4:17:26] was 100 paving and drink and [4:17:29] put together. What is a total [4:17:33] of expected for the [4:17:34] whole project is it 20 Mannion [4:17:35] is it 50 million is it what are [4:17:36] we at [4:17:37] this point. Okay so several [4:17:37] days with a matching grant [4:17:46] total looking at. You look at [4:17:47] 11.8. 11.8. And the second one [4:17:52] and second one. It's awesome. [4:17:53] It's it's 5.2 of them are [4:17:54] correctly to wait another 5.2 [4:17:58] this 10.4. [4:17:59] To give you a total of what I'm [4:17:59] not good at math over 20 [4:18:02] minutes, I'm sorry I just want [4:18:10] to know. [4:18:11] 1.2 3121 21. Okay, so by not by [4:18:12] keeping assessment that weight [4:18:14] is right not today. [4:18:15] Highs going to hurt because you [4:18:19] were not there this is it. [4:18:20] 5.9 plus 4 point right now it [4:18:23] does not give me 21. [4:18:24] I'm not even close to 21 that [4:18:25] means the project would not [4:18:28] even start. [4:18:29] The point I'm trying to make [4:18:30] sure that if if we if we start [4:18:34] in project tomorrow or next [4:18:38] month or this year. Passing [4:18:39] this assessment. They want from [4:18:43] $90 to $200 for the resident. [4:18:44] How is it going to be I want to [4:18:44] see if the project to be done [4:18:47] at this point it's not going to [4:18:47] be done when is it going to [4:18:50] start. [4:18:51] See like and said this been [4:18:52] been for over 4 years ever [4:18:55] since it became a commissioner, [4:19:00] 2016. So. [4:19:00] Like I said right now [4:19:01] temperature is an engineer if [4:19:03] it does I [4:19:04] think is right that's all I [4:19:05] think we're paying 1,001.1 [4:19:07] million dollar right now for [4:19:12] that is I'm okay with that. [4:19:13] Yeah, but my questions so that [4:19:13] I mean what goes to project [4:19:16] what I I want to have a [4:19:16] timeline when is it going to [4:19:27] start this one. [4:19:28] So consider so the projects [4:19:28] already started doing the [4:19:30] engineering construction That's [4:19:35] what I'm looking for Sir. [4:19:36] >> Consortia portion of several [4:19:37] days is going to start early 20 [4:19:40] summit. [4:19:41] Like we talked about What's all [4:19:42] the engineering and purchase a [4:19:47] gun. We'll get a start we've [4:19:47] got to come back to the start. [4:19:48] And construction are going to [4:19:50] turn attention until. [4:19:56] 20. [4:19:57] >> I'm going to put in last way [4:19:57] that's what that's what I can [4:20:03] understand for now ok. [4:20:04] Keeping the assessment the same [4:20:04] as it is will it stop the [4:20:10] project at all. [4:20:10] >> We will have to move forward [4:20:14] with projects or cause this is [4:20:15] our arm. Yeah state grant fund [4:20:16] Grant funds that we're using so [4:20:20] okay student to replenish our [4:20:21] schools are as good as that we [4:20:21] have a project planned for me. [4:20:24] For my residents, I'm [4:20:24] looking at because we have a [4:20:25] lot of assessment in this [4:20:29] particular case also is [4:20:29] doubling up with I didn't get [4:20:30] we didn't get 3 options whether [4:20:33] it's going [4:20:34] to be $100 bucks go from 90 to [4:20:41] 200. [4:20:42] I just want to see I mean what [4:20:43] board that's whatever what it [4:20:43] does look forward to a 1, 1, [4:20:44] 4 okay, so as we just heard the [4:20:45] residents, many of the same [4:20:47] thing. I'm looking that's what [4:20:54] I'm looking for. [4:20:58] Okay and then it [4:20:59] well any more of the current [4:21:00] current okay more of that in [4:21:04] second it. [4:21:05] I'm not sure to Jeff just just [4:21:06] you're going to get to a middle [4:21:08] ground, some can we not what [4:21:16] are called for an amendment. [4:21:24] 23. [4:21:25] Iex can we get to a middle [4:21:25] ground, but those those are [4:21:28] need is a fine to send is [4:21:29] require studies. We don't just [4:21:30] I don't see with just one [4:21:32] numbers at that got to have [4:21:33] purpose what it is what the [4:21:34] consequences are. [4:21:34] Or highs going to benefit or [4:21:35] not benefit the reason that's [4:21:39] all I'm looking at is just [4:21:43] right because the chair mayor. [4:21:43] You're recognized. I would love [4:21:46] to but what that meant. [4:21:54] Please come and get. [4:21:54] >> Has been a study done for [4:21:55] the stormwater fees at that [4:22:00] time the peace for implementing [4:22:00] the study was completed and [4:22:01] think it was for a 5 year term, [4:22:04] we're your [4:22:05] number 3 to that I hear my so [4:22:08] so in order [4:22:09] to maintain or receive the [4:22:10] grants because this because I'm [4:22:12] safe. [4:22:13] We've been asking about grants [4:22:19] finally. [4:22:20] We're seen 11 million dollars [4:22:21] right work of grants. And so [4:22:23] based on your study because I'm [4:22:23] not sure if the commission [4:22:24] really understand so based on [4:22:27] your state. We we really need. [4:22:34] This assessment. [4:22:35] Tonight or we lose 11 million [4:22:35] dollars of grant money [4:22:38] potentially cause I is a [4:22:39] potentially or what we were [4:22:39] pleased if you have to explain [4:22:42] that to me [4:22:43] is coping. Commission and we've [4:22:43] well it's a project is not [4:22:45] complete you can collect on [4:22:46] the grand we're going to lose [4:22:47] 11 million dollars with the [4:22:52] grant and even talk about [4:22:53] grants around all day. And we [4:22:56] have great one that is on [4:22:56] the tape. And if we don't if we [4:22:57] can match it we're going to [4:23:00] lose correct correct. Thank [4:23:03] you. Thank you very much, ok. [4:23:04] >> Base what would Rick but for [4:23:05] the record we hear if the [4:23:08] project is not complete. [4:23:08] We're not even not completed [4:23:09] yet we haven't started yet. [4:23:14] All my. [4:23:15] I give you my time or my my [4:23:15] concern is. If we do not pass [4:23:18] this. [4:23:18] If we maintained as the same [4:23:21] way. [4:23:21] Now we're talking about if the [4:23:22] person that company present [4:23:25] even started yet is just you [4:23:26] know that's all I'm looking [4:23:26] for. So we have 5 votes here we [4:23:29] have 5 votes have been moved to [4:23:33] maintain it. [4:23:33] Put that weight is so it's been [4:23:34] more than second in my book the [4:23:36] roll call please. [4:23:41] >> Commissioner Martin. [4:23:42] >> It was moved to maintain it [4:23:48] to win [4:23:49] it right to maintain it to keep [4:23:49] this the way it is and seeds of [4:23:50] find other ways to forget his [4:23:51] sentiment is an amendment to [4:23:51] meant to him and that the U.S. [4:23:58] Is an amendment to existing [4:23:59] rate, ok. Commissioner Martin [4:24:00] now. Commissioner those [4:24:09] records. [4:24:10] >> Was saying that to the [4:24:13] chair. You're a cut. [4:24:17] >> If we see. [4:24:23] Doing not increase that. [4:24:24] >> I think for We do not if we [4:24:28] do increase your. [4:24:28] >> I accept this $60 whatever [4:24:34] it is. [4:24:34] And we are going to fall for a [4:24:38] shot off being able to do this. [4:24:39] And that and the bottom of the [4:24:47] table is that we. [4:24:48] Do not accept this increase. [4:24:48] The point is to keep to keep [4:24:49] the assessment the way [4:24:51] it is. [4:24:51] >> I mean the amendment to keep [4:24:52] it the same with do not resent [4:24:57] it. And and there's another [4:24:58] amendment correct. No there's [4:24:58] no other and now there's that [4:25:00] was sent to us MISTER Mayor if [4:25:03] I could so. [4:25:04] >> Commissioner Miller circuits [4:25:10] that. [4:25:10] As as the public works director [4:25:11] said we're looking to apply for [4:25:17] other grants right we haven't [4:25:18] gotten any grants yet but the [4:25:18] federal Department of emergency [4:25:26] management came out about 2 [4:25:26] weeks ago with a grant about a [4:25:27] billion And half of it is for [4:25:32] resiliency the other half of it [4:25:33] is for evacuation routes. [4:25:34] We have a gram writer that [4:25:36] helped us write the grants that [4:25:37] got this or like drainage [4:25:38] improvement Grant and motion of [4:25:42] that. [4:25:43] They met with our federal [4:25:48] lobbyist, so public [4:25:49] works finance met with our [4:25:50] federal lobbyists as well as as [4:25:56] well as a grant writer. We [4:25:56] asked us questions can we apply [4:25:57] for one or both of those grants [4:25:59] as [4:25:59] additional funding to help [4:26:00] offset these grants. We don't [4:26:05] know the answer yet it's [4:26:06] something that they're if we [4:26:07] can and will apply for and then [4:26:10] we'll hope that [4:26:11] we get that Grant and then that [4:26:12] grant money was offset what the [4:26:15] at some about out of what the [4:26:16] city MAY need to pack whether [4:26:17] it's a 100% whether it's 50%. [4:26:23] It all depends what we get from [4:26:23] the federal government. Just [4:26:29] for clarification. [4:26:30] >> If we decide to leave that [4:26:31] assessment as it previously was [4:26:33] before this increase. [4:26:34] We are still going to move [4:26:37] ahead with. [4:26:41] Simple expedient arak. [4:26:42] >> The commission would have to [4:26:43] give us direction not to. [4:26:45] But Anderson reward. We will [4:26:46] come back [4:26:47] to you right if there are no [4:26:47] other funding options available [4:26:53] that will have to come back [4:26:53] to you. We haven't gotten to [4:26:57] that great yeah, okay so. [4:26:58] Okay so that we can be because [4:26:59] is for now [4:27:04] for now. [4:27:04] >> Okay just think Sir for the [4:27:05] for the record because we got [4:27:08] MISS Hardy the efforts that [4:27:11] correct. We're [4:27:11] just told based on the [4:27:12] commission commissioner asking [4:27:14] the question there. We're going [4:27:19] to lose their grants. [4:27:20] Okay and we're told potentially [4:27:21] then Commission wanted to make [4:27:22] sure it's separate issue. [4:27:23] Yes, oh no. She said, yes we're [4:27:24] going to lose it. We've got [4:27:29] information from seeing the [4:27:30] correct me if I'm wrong. [4:27:31] Commissioner see it [4:27:34] Measure say. [4:27:35] >> We haven't got writing we [4:27:35] haven't got any other great [4:27:40] yet. [4:27:41] So my question how can we do [4:27:41] is. Something that we don't [4:27:44] have yet. [4:27:45] What I do not want to get [4:27:45] everything is on the record. [4:27:49] I make sure I'm clear. Because [4:27:52] we get confusing [4:27:52] information there. The question [4:27:53] is raising assessment and a [4:28:00] resident because of those 2. [4:28:01] If the rent if if if we are [4:28:01] still looking for other [4:28:04] revenues the funding revenues [4:28:08] there let's do that. [4:28:09] Might the point it all comes [4:28:10] around the we're going to [4:28:12] increase the tax on them or [4:28:13] keep it the same way that's the [4:28:15] issue right now. [4:28:16] Everything else is not on my [4:28:16] response me I'm doing I'm [4:28:19] putting on what I have right [4:28:22] now right now [4:28:22] is to the 2 more of Chris or [4:28:23] assessment that was done in I [4:28:29] am and I said no I don't want [4:28:30] Lincoln but for now under [4:28:31] dicicco said this one was seen [4:28:37] as it is talking about so now [4:28:38] we we discussed different [4:28:38] things is so I've We don't have [4:28:43] them and this is not the issue [4:28:44] and it's not that you should [4:28:44] maintain he sure is the issue [4:28:47] is what we have to. Increase or [4:28:49] not increase. [4:28:49] And I've and that we do is i [4:28:50] don't know if them if we don't [4:28:55] have the money would we bring [4:28:56] it here. Why are we discussing [4:28:56] something we don't have the [4:28:59] money. [4:28:59] That means the project will not [4:29:00] start if we don't have the [4:29:04] money. [4:29:05] Ok what think okay excellent [4:29:06] what I'm asking I'm going to [4:29:10] ask that staff do, but there [4:29:11] are. We're done before we [4:29:11] presented here to to the [4:29:16] commission because we're all [4:29:16] in confusion because I would [4:29:17] like we were seeing a lot of [4:29:24] time I'd like to know option [4:29:25] one option to up to 3. We vote [4:29:26] we should is. A b or c. But now [4:29:28] it's we spending on of times he [4:29:29] should have been done a long [4:29:31] time ago. [4:29:32] Even doing that does budget [4:29:32] presentation should have been [4:29:36] done where has risen have [4:29:37] obviously expressed himself [4:29:40] there and unless it again. [4:29:41] Most of us were not present at [4:29:41] this and we have a workshop [4:29:47] with there agenda review what [4:29:48] we discussed a sting right now. [4:29:53] Back to just one for you man. [4:29:54] >> Okay so we do have Grant [4:29:55] funding already security for [4:29:57] those project what the city [4:30:02] back just saying in [4:30:03] order to Ruby they assess [4:30:06] offense, you know are they on [4:30:06] the fund. We're seeking [4:30:07] additional grant to cover the [4:30:14] portions that a settlement is [4:30:15] now going to cover. So we do [4:30:15] have that fun taking place and [4:30:20] we need to increase its testing [4:30:21] too fund the city's portion of [4:30:21] that total cost up to 2 [4:30:23] projects all right so we do [4:30:23] have that I didn't secure it [4:30:24] they're looking for additional [4:30:29] funding to see for getting [4:30:30] relieve that burden. The cause [4:30:30] of the assessment. [4:30:33] Okay because. [4:30:34] >> So if you get yeah [4:30:34] appreciate so it goes back to [4:30:37] what we discussed right now I [4:30:38] was going to increase it would [4:30:38] not increase it, I mean did I [4:30:42] say for me. [4:30:43] I mean the motion there to keep [4:30:43] the system and the way it is [4:30:47] for now under the services and [4:30:48] what we hear what is so it's [4:30:48] all I'm going to vote for us [4:30:51] over the and this one is a man. [4:30:58] My amendment so I'm [4:30:59] asking for grants and what was [4:31:00] so great we can do something we [4:31:03] don't have to say we do have [4:31:04] made here and they're not ok. [4:31:05] We can start the project if we [4:31:09] don't have the complete funding [4:31:10] I just checked it under so I [4:31:10] think grants we need the [4:31:13] assessments to cover that [4:31:13] portion of the grant is not [4:31:14] funding okay to [4:31:15] have okay. [4:31:16] >> Guys back to the same thing [4:31:17] I'm I'm in it to keep [4:31:19] assessment we vote on it unless [4:31:23] we have another amendment. [4:31:24] Cause they're in a minute to [4:31:26] them and to my amendment. [4:31:27] No there was not it is not ok. [4:31:27] We don't vote on this one here [4:31:32] in the House and we need [4:31:33] somewhere in the middle work [4:31:37] when going to the middle ground [4:31:37] to cover. I want to know the [4:31:41] vote MR. We're in the middle of [4:31:42] >> Yeah we started counting [4:31:43] votes to people that voted so [4:31:46] far. [4:31:47] Commissioner Martin voted now [4:31:47] commissioner Louis for goods [4:31:51] voted yes. [4:31:52] Vice mayor post Monte yes. [4:31:57] Commissioner Louis. [4:31:58] >> You know I like to see some [4:31:59] of the middle. Airports last [4:32:02] yes. [4:32:02] That's a 3 2 o'clock alright, [4:32:09] this Koch foods. [4:32:14] >> meaning and that putting [4:32:15] action there. And thank you to [4:32:16] everyone so we will not proceed [4:32:20] to items 5 see measure. Any [4:32:21] comments please. MISTER Mayor, [4:32:22] I know, but your comments for 2 [4:32:26] nobody coming thank you. [4:32:27] Commission. We don't appreciate [4:32:32] your [4:32:32] comments any. Well let's start [4:32:33] with commissioner please. [4:32:37] And the [4:32:38] I just want some clarification [4:32:40] after sitting on a [4:32:41] few things next it might make [4:32:41] sure everything [4:32:44] is good. [4:32:45] >> Thank everyone for coming [4:32:48] out appreciate [4:32:48] you guys we definitely have a [4:32:52] cough and [4:32:52] real soon how within the next [4:32:53] few to discuss coming up and I [4:32:57] appreciate one coming out. [4:33:00] Thank you. He said bp's. [4:33:08] Vice mayor. [4:33:09] I want to thank everybody to [4:33:10] this meeting the blitz everyone [4:33:17] thank you. This exceeds please. [4:33:18] >> District see this is your [4:33:21] Commission remember sec [4:33:24] a Tuesday. We are feeding [4:33:25] our community. Highland Park. [4:33:26] Thank you guys so much for [4:33:27] your support and thank you for [4:33:28] your concern about tonight, but [4:33:34] meeting I think you're coming [4:33:34] out as well and just to [4:33:35] reiterate that we could lose [4:33:38] 11 Million. [4:33:39] Green Grant money and I'll [4:33:40] explain a little bit more of [4:33:42] that on my personal social [4:33:43] media. And those of you that [4:33:52] are. [4:33:53] The information that beings a [4:33:53] spread on the North Lauderdale [4:34:00] neighborhood page. Please. [4:34:00] Contact your district [4:34:01] commissioner. Look on the [4:34:04] city's page of the more [4:34:05] accurate information because we [4:34:06] don't want to be spreading [4:34:12] wrong information and again [4:34:13] thank you so much this is your [4:34:13] Ricky Martin district seat. [4:34:17] This Street d. [4:34:17] Hello district d this is [4:34:18] commissioner of the [4:34:22] lowest Ricketts. [4:34:22] >> Warren would like to see you [4:34:27] tomorrow winds that I mean this [4:34:28] coming Wednesday party time a [4:34:29] trumpian hard 1032 where we [4:34:36] look forward to seeing [4:34:37] you there. And on Thursday we [4:34:37] would like you to come out Penn [4:34:42] Street at a [4:34:43] community center. Because what [4:34:44] happened in Broward mobile [4:34:46] health bus. And it's free for [4:34:52] all. 18 years and over for [4:34:53] the freshman. Hiv test in a lot [4:34:53] of work that pressure coming [4:34:59] get yourself checked out [4:35:00] and 3. We're still awaiting [4:35:01] information from the mobile a [4:35:04] driver's license centers, so we [4:35:05] know what time is coming and [4:35:05] the 14th off OCTOBER you can [4:35:10] call or not your driver's [4:35:10] license, renewed thank you so [4:35:11] much and thanks for all the [4:35:15] city staff that worked on [4:35:15] the budget. Good night, [4:35:16] everyone ok thank and that was [4:35:20] about a comeback in the [4:35:21] discussion openly and disallow [4:35:22] risen too here the same [4:35:27] information that. [4:35:27] Your elected heard before this [4:35:29] and that's what we want to talk [4:35:30] >> 2 to 5 o'clock pm instead of [4:35:30] having 2 different things that [4:35:35] I know it could take some time. [4:35:39] And [4:35:39] yet our responsibility is to [4:35:41] listen and [4:35:42] ask questions protected [4:35:43] essential services that the [4:35:45] resident need and remember that [4:35:50] every dollar. [4:35:51] I just something out of every [4:35:52] that we spent ultimate will [4:35:58] come from the people. [4:35:59] This is democracy and we have [4:35:59] to think about it but thank you [4:36:02] very much for everybody for [4:36:06] being here. Thank Commission. [4:36:07] >> the army. [4:36:08] >> Things I'm going to ask to [4:36:08] see them address that we [4:36:11] mentioned that a return from [4:36:15] resident, we need some [4:36:16] information that. On morning my [4:36:17] conversation with last week [4:36:20] with so. [4:36:21] That means to me says so [4:36:21] assistant city manager we [4:36:25] didn't discuss that. The fak [4:36:25] truck uses they're somewhat [4:36:26] quest in the community that we [4:36:31] have purchase that item there. [4:36:32] Resident have not seen it in [4:36:38] the street. [4:36:39] And based on something for us [4:36:40] to I disagree with that because [4:36:42] if we're [4:36:43] using it or you win it when [4:36:43] it's when water what's the [4:36:49] purpose. We could at least one [4:36:50] already won. I think the job [4:36:51] for that I MAY be wrong. [4:36:56] But when we request we press it [4:36:56] for up to buy back truck. [4:36:57] It was to clean up all the how [4:37:00] to call the drainage to [4:37:04] prevent. [4:37:04] Removed for prevention to make [4:37:05] sure we don't have flood [4:37:10] issues. So resident were [4:37:11] correct. The resident and we [4:37:12] ask that was correct in asking [4:37:16] where is the backdrop. And some [4:37:17] cities have to. And if we're [4:37:17] waiting for. After his is [4:37:20] flooded these what's the use [4:37:23] of that. [4:37:23] I would like to get the report [4:37:24] what it what do we do what are [4:37:27] we doing with the backdrop at [4:37:34] this point. [4:37:38] >> My follow-up on [4:37:39] the 29th. All right that we on [4:37:40] that one of the items to follow [4:37:44] up but okay okay, so that means [4:37:45] a good purpose of providing is [4:37:46] my career is tough to do what. [4:37:50] To use. [4:37:50] 5 days a week 8 hours a day so [4:37:54] it should be used. [4:37:55] And so where will work with [4:37:56] public works what will put the [4:37:57] report together and we'll come [4:37:58] up with a schedule and how we [4:37:59] can make it also more visible [4:38:04] when it's out on the road and I [4:38:05] don't we have it just have it. [4:38:06] We had this warm water about so [4:38:12] how do we have this one. [4:38:13] About a year about a year. [4:38:14] We haven't other we have [4:38:18] another one as well right, but [4:38:18] we have to wonder sewer one [4:38:19] does drain right, but I just [4:38:21] want to be clear because we're [4:38:22] safe with resin say they [4:38:23] haven't seen it deal tonight. [4:38:25] Well I would bang things [4:38:26] considered and sit there and [4:38:31] that's money. [4:38:32] Right now it's raining a lot [4:38:33] and in different places that [4:38:35] were then I expect him to what [4:38:41] do you think weather [4:38:41] receipt after hours. But that's [4:38:43] not the point are we [4:38:43] doing there make sure [4:38:44] preventing that removing those [4:38:48] clear those other things [4:38:49] because at that we bought it [4:38:50] for as a person situation [4:38:52] emergency. And it's been a year [4:38:57] is that the news. [4:38:58] We will get your teacher [4:38:58] reported connects ok, thank [4:39:04] you. [4:39:04] If there's no wall. Based on my [4:39:11] agenda. [4:39:12] Got a quick water control rised [4:39:13] ok city court has no comment so [4:39:17] it it has [4:39:18] no comment. I'd like to get a [4:39:18] motion to approve agenda [4:39:21] meeting please motion to [4:39:22] adjourn said ok meeting is [4:39:22] adjourned thank you immediately [4:39:27] after that one that will [4:39:27] >> convene to water control [4:39:28] district a short meeting there. [4:39:33] I want to pass it too. [4:39:38] >> I I I know I I [4:39:39] knew exactly. I'm not talking [4:39:39] about you know it's [4:39:44] commissioner [4:39:45] Louis Saha and commissioner [4:39:45] Martin is the vice yes, I know [4:40:01] we voted on that at the last [4:40:05] have an [4:40:29] another [4:40:29] meeting quickly there's like [4:40:38] all right. [4:40:38] >> We'll call this mean They're [4:40:44] also doing it for that. [4:40:45] All Cause mean order order and [4:40:46] a a commissioner chamber. [4:40:46] You call the roll call of us [4:40:51] Greece. [4:40:52] >> Terry Lewis crickets hair [4:40:52] vice chair Martin. Here [4:40:54] supervisor. [4:41:10] Excuse me supervisor board fun. [4:41:10] >> Or Dylan who was saying so [4:41:16] our of here, okay so far Pfizer [4:41:16] booster my and supervisor who [4:41:17] was supervising was about to [4:41:21] say here. Yeah. [4:41:22] Supervisor who is here [4:41:22] definitely and Ministry of the [4:41:26] buck right. [4:41:27] >> District attorney Kim [4:41:32] family's yeah and I am [4:41:32] district secretary Slattery [4:41:33] there's no trouble minutes [4:41:34] tonight, so we'll go into [4:41:36] other business. [4:41:37] >> Yes you can get a table read [4:41:41] it. [4:41:51] Resolution to North Florida. [4:41:52] >> Relating to the provision of [4:41:53] water control and drainage [4:41:56] services facilities and [4:41:57] programs. The water management [4:41:57] system within the geographical [4:42:01] boundaries of [4:42:01] the district establishing the [4:42:02] assessment rate of $200 for [4:42:04] water management system [4:42:05] assessments for the fiscal year [4:42:06] beginning OCTOBER one 2026, [4:42:11] approving confirming in [4:42:11] adopting the assessment roll [4:42:12] approving the amended district [4:42:17] budget for the fiscal year 2026 [4:42:18] to 2027 to be adopted as one of [4:42:18] the city's budget but the [4:42:19] city Commission providing for [4:42:20] conflict providing for [4:42:24] severability and providing for [4:42:24] an effective date. [4:42:36] Presentations. [4:42:37] >> Tonight I'm going to do [4:42:38] still matter to this [4:43:14] presentation. Thank you. [4:43:19] >> Could [4:43:20] even land. My name is Sharon [4:43:21] Stewart the budget manager I'm [4:43:23] here to present the water [4:43:24] control district proposed [4:43:28] budget for fiscal year [4:43:29] 2027. So the budget is [4:43:35] 2 million 560 thousand [4:43:36] 320. And what we have proposed [4:43:36] in the budget in order to [4:43:43] balance it is to increase the [4:43:44] assessment $200 per unit which [4:43:45] would run it would generate [4:43:49] 2 million 253 6 '08. [4:43:50] We have identified other [4:43:54] revenues and the amount of [4:43:55] 306,712. So it's a balance the [4:43:56] budget without using any fund [4:44:05] balance we are recommended the [4:44:06] $200 per unit. Assessment so it [4:44:06] it would bring the total [4:44:09] revenues to [4:44:09] 2 million 5 6320 without using [4:44:12] fund [4:44:13] this is one of the funds [4:44:13] tonight that is considered [4:44:19] structurally balanced because [4:44:20] we're not used to revenues from [4:44:21] fund balance, the budget. [4:44:23] So if it's passed that's what [4:44:24] it would be a structurally [4:44:26] balanced budget. [4:44:26] In regards to the water [4:44:27] control, what's really [4:44:34] pressuring is that we have and [4:44:35] the quip meant. That's being [4:44:44] requested a $125,000 for the [4:44:45] we do. In addition, we have [4:44:46] that Canal maintenance and also [4:44:48] a grant match for Canal [4:44:49] stabilization project which is [4:44:50] a million dollars so the canal [4:44:55] maintenance is a million. [4:44:56] The stabilize station matches a [4:44:56] million dollars along with the [4:44:57] equipment so those are the [4:44:58] items this really drive in the [4:44:58] budget and that's what we refer [4:45:06] to as the budgetary pressures [4:45:07] and this fun and that [4:45:07] presidents. The budget for the [4:45:10] water control district. [4:45:15] For public comment. [4:45:23] No public we offer a motion. [4:45:24] I know some any comments about [4:45:29] this. [4:45:36] I recognize. [4:45:36] Can you please clarify this. [4:45:37] $200 per unit. The difference [4:45:46] between this and what you see. [4:45:47] If you can explain that for the [4:45:47] resident pays the current. [4:45:51] First says the proposed 200. [4:46:04] Bear with me a moment. [4:46:05] And also clarify what is it you [4:46:06] want to because you want to be [4:46:12] an apartment House you know. [4:46:13] >> Just clarify that I think [4:46:21] since clarified it. [4:46:21] >> So in regards to what the [4:46:27] difference would be so the [4:46:27] current rate. If that was [4:46:33] adopted in 2026 is [4:46:34] per unit. So if we were to [4:46:34] maintain that we have a tax [4:46:47] base of about 11. [4:46:47] 1674 units. At that $95 unit we [4:46:48] would generate approximately [4:46:49] are under a million dollars [4:46:50] and then would have the [4:46:50] additional other revenue [4:46:56] sources that I mention of the [4:46:59] 306. So. In [4:47:00] addition to and not using any [4:47:01] fund balance in order to [4:47:03] balance this we would need [4:47:09] about one [4:47:09] 0.1 million dollars and the [4:47:10] from the reserve fund in order [4:47:12] to be able to balance this [4:47:13] budget. If the that $200 is not [4:47:21] approved. [4:47:22] >> We're back to the same same [4:47:23] place of discussion earlier [4:47:33] this different meeting but. [4:47:40] Well that other alternatives. [4:47:41] >> The alternative is that we [4:47:43] actually have that grant [4:47:44] match right which we need to [4:47:45] fund so that's already a [4:47:47] million dollars that's off the [4:47:50] top that we actually need [4:47:51] to fund and then the [4:47:52] maintenance itself is projected [4:47:54] to cost us a million dollars. [4:47:58] So. [4:47:59] Primarily those are the 2 [4:48:00] expenditures that's our drive [4:48:03] in [4:48:03] this budget and those are the [4:48:04] ones that we really need to to [4:48:09] find [4:48:10] here so if we were not approve [4:48:10] the assessment then we're [4:48:12] looking at the gun into the [4:48:13] reserves in order to be able to [4:48:14] offset those because we do have [4:48:18] to match. We do have to show [4:48:19] that we have the match. Grant [4:48:20] in order to be able to accept [4:48:22] it and we have to budget that [4:48:31] if we do. [4:48:32] >> is kuz from 95 to 295 to 200 [4:48:39] is the proposed yes [4:48:40] not everyone who lives in the [4:48:40] canal. Everyone pays that and [4:48:44] the city. [4:48:45] >> Everyone pays us from that [4:48:45] tax base [4:48:49] that's generated. [4:48:50] >> I'm not so sure if every if [4:48:51] the same reason that we're here [4:48:53] it would understand that. [4:48:54] I don't think they understand [4:48:55] it they MAY not even know about [4:48:59] it. [4:48:59] >> They MAY not know about it [4:49:00] but is actually represented and [4:49:02] trim notice that they do see [4:49:07] that there is [4:49:07] this expenditure. That's [4:49:08] propose in the trend of notice [4:49:09] so they are notified. Every [4:49:10] year annually through their [4:49:10] term notice and also when they [4:49:13] pay their tax bills they see [4:49:19] exactly what their pain. [4:49:19] >> During the year in our [4:49:23] presentation there during [4:49:23] town hall meetings with due to [4:49:26] budget. [4:49:27] Was it mention at all to the [4:49:33] resident. [4:49:34] At the Yeah, I'm sorry you [4:49:38] measure. They were yes. [4:49:39] Ok so I know I know people know [4:49:40] project 200 area but I do [4:49:42] understand at this point you [4:50:12] could do it, I don't know. [4:50:26] See you're going. [4:50:26] >> So in $5 is going to create [4:50:27] a a million. 600 as. Yes over [4:50:32] that. [4:50:33] >> It's a it's a 200 so we're [4:50:33] looking where it's is from [4:50:37] 95 to 200. [4:50:38] >> It's all going to go one of [4:50:41] on the [4:50:48] that's over a million 600. [4:50:49] The property or ready to do it [4:50:52] you know, that's I got [4:50:54] 15,000 or [4:51:01] 15,600 homes. [4:51:02] >> She said so it is the tax [4:51:03] base is 11 properties 11,000 [4:51:05] better before that we get a [4:51:12] sense [4:51:13] so it's an 11,011 1006 74 units [4:51:14] that we can assess. Times to [4:51:19] 200. [4:51:22] >> Uconn team with [4:51:24] apartment. [4:51:25] >> Note these including the [4:51:25] apartment. These are these are [4:51:33] the units yes that that's [4:51:34] included exactly. I got the [4:51:34] phone number to the chair [4:51:40] you're recognized. [4:51:40] >> The we have 3 units and 4 [4:51:41] units sensing that from eu is [4:51:44] so the person that has a [4:51:45] triplex attract next pays the [4:51:53] same. 200. [4:51:54] But all 3 are 200 per unit for [4:51:55] abc or the way that it works it [4:51:55] would her Folio right so that's [4:52:01] what it would be. [4:52:02] >> Essentially. Stanley MS. [4:52:06] N. [4:52:06] Okay so yes, they would they [4:52:10] would pay [4:52:10] the same. So if it's 3 you it's [4:52:14] you and whatever is considering [4:52:15] a unit. So they would pay the [4:52:15] same as the other person as [4:52:18] well so it's not I'm looking at [4:52:19] it separately is what [4:52:20] you're thinking. But as per [4:52:21] unit and that's how the the [4:52:30] numbers are true and so the 2. [4:52:31] Yeah okay, so why are so far so [4:52:31] how's this in the purse [4:52:36] structure. [4:52:36] >> The structure. Not for [4:52:46] parcel yeah structure. [4:52:52] Not 60200. [4:52:52] This 200 or so Utah. So if you [4:52:53] want to eat healthy. Whether [4:53:02] it's a triplex duplex on that. [4:53:03] And to a chair. Yes, who's the [4:53:05] chair, I thought [4:53:10] it was. [4:53:11] >> I'm the It's just that [4:53:11] Street as I stated actually the [4:53:17] real chair. [4:53:18] >> is is she a the Lewis vsu [4:53:18] she decided that someone has [4:53:21] covered 4 wide into the vice [4:53:34] >> I think it might go. [4:53:35] My question is there any reason [4:53:39] why just jump from [4:53:40] 95 to 200. Okay and that was it [4:53:40] me or is it asking why is it we [4:53:45] don't have anything. [4:53:45] Gradual or in between white who [4:53:46] could see from from step 1, 2, [4:53:49] on the way to the disco tent, [4:53:50] 200 the same reason that we're [4:53:57] talking about to the chair. [4:53:57] >> So the reason why we looked [4:53:58] at 200 because as mentioned we [4:54:03] are looking for a structurally [4:54:04] balanced budget here we're [4:54:04] we're not using any of our [4:54:08] reserves to fund the operations [4:54:09] within the water control [4:54:09] district so the 200 would give [4:54:19] us that revenue so that we [4:54:19] could not have to use and the [4:54:20] reserves at all. So that was [4:54:23] the premise of the $200 [4:54:23] assessment any other, but [4:54:24] they're all I could identify [4:54:28] some other ones if you'd like [4:54:29] to hear, but that was the [4:54:29] premise behind the $200 one so [4:54:36] that we could preserve the [4:54:37] reserves that we have in this [4:54:38] fund. So this would. Preserve [4:54:44] the reserve. [4:54:45] >> And what to know that funds [4:54:46] going into the reserve to [4:54:50] rebuild there are nothing with [4:54:50] the going to be 0 doubt it [4:54:51] would it would because we would [4:54:54] not rely on any fund balance at [4:54:54] all and then that would stay [4:54:57] there and to be able [4:54:58] to fund in and build a reserve [4:54:58] is that what you're talking [4:55:01] about throughout the years so [4:55:04] there is at that event is a [4:55:05] water reserves for the water [4:55:06] control districts only doctors [4:55:11] are not general now because [4:55:12] these this revenue is just to [4:55:13] support the operations related [4:55:16] to the water control district [4:55:17] it cannot be used for any other [4:55:17] funding sources at all just [4:55:20] just the water control. All [4:55:21] right, [4:55:28] thank you. [4:55:29] >> Checking in effect can occur [4:55:30] when dirt trying recognize [4:55:34] thank you. Question [4:55:35] are the reason from work go to [4:55:36] you exempted or to to pay that [4:55:40] too. [4:55:41] >> I'm thinking that that's [4:55:41] where you said brought it was a [4:55:44] part of that everybody pays [4:55:48] this right city one. [4:55:48] >> All right so the only the [4:55:49] only options if you mention is [4:55:53] too. Not to use the reserve. [4:55:58] But charter as it. [4:55:58] >> Well they're they're more [4:55:59] than one options is basically [4:56:04] what what's decided here [4:56:05] tonight and was voted on. [4:56:09] You could not use the [4:56:10] reserves right or you could [4:56:15] propose maybe another. [4:56:16] Unit assessment that can also [4:56:16] be done as well or you can get [4:56:20] and maintain current [4:56:20] so there. This is just the [4:56:21] proposal he regards to what [4:56:26] came up with regards to the [4:56:26] budget so that we can maintain [4:56:27] our fund balance but of course [4:56:30] this is not the end all be all [4:56:34] there's opportunities [4:56:34] to adjusted anyway that you all [4:56:35] want to and vote on that [4:56:38] tonight. My question is there [4:56:38] any every exhausted every other [4:56:43] funding opportunities, sources. [4:56:44] >> Well besides the site [4:56:45] include the site bringing the [4:56:50] it resident. [4:56:52] >> In order to fund we we've [4:56:53] really cannot do we need to use [4:56:54] like the general fund to be [4:56:56] able to support this so this is [4:57:01] a specific. [4:57:01] Budget that relates to the [4:57:02] expenditures are related to [4:57:10] this so this is how it's going [4:57:11] to be funded in terms of of of [4:57:12] just identifying the sources [4:57:14] and be able to also find [4:57:15] whatever expenditures that we [4:57:15] have proposed for the next [4:57:18] fiscal year right, but you have [4:57:19] to start, but you have that [4:57:20] risk right to answer my [4:57:23] question has said have we. [4:57:23] >> He says that if we identify [4:57:26] other funding. So says. [4:57:28] And not to pass this to [4:57:31] a resident. [4:57:32] >> The other funding sources [4:57:33] that right now we have that [4:57:34] 1 million [4:57:34] dollars grant that we're get in [4:57:35] and we just have to match that [4:57:38] so that's what funding source [4:57:42] that's been identified [4:57:42] separately from the assessment [4:57:43] that residents [4:57:46] would face. [4:57:52] >> Okay base based [4:57:53] that I'm not companies to [4:57:54] satisfy with this and I don't [4:57:56] see if we cannot identify the [4:57:57] source I don't see how the same [4:57:57] reason that we think we keep [4:58:00] asking and I'm sure most of the [4:58:00] hundreds to do will be staying [4:58:06] here tonight [4:58:06] to try to see what can be done [4:58:07] because that we've got throat [4:58:13] cut just [4:58:14] like it, I'm not in support of [4:58:15] myself so I thank you to the [4:58:20] task. Okay so. [4:58:21] >> The the stabilization [4:58:24] project is you know at a port [4:58:25] 6 Million. The general fund is [4:58:26] already finding almost [4:58:31] 4 million [4:58:32] off it. They want to control [4:58:32] district our place funding a [4:58:37] part of it are the the [4:58:38] wcb he's only paying a billion [4:58:39] of that 6 Million. [4:58:40] So too. You know the other [4:58:41] funding sources, the general [4:58:44] fund which is covering almost [4:58:55] 4 million of this project cost. [4:58:55] >> I just want what other [4:58:58] cities. [4:59:03] Lot lot of that [4:59:04] >> They're or 2 and if if we [4:59:05] know the pain going to $51 for [4:59:09] you. [4:59:13] But when patients paying $51 [4:59:13] every year. What is going on [4:59:24] yeah it's a bigger supply. [4:59:28] What was that. [4:59:29] >> MAY I just add something [4:59:32] regards [4:59:33] >> they wanted to basically no [4:59:34] there there is and if we [4:59:36] exhausted all our options so [4:59:37] I would just like to say that [4:59:44] we. [4:59:45] You know trying to ensure that [4:59:45] we did not tap into our our [4:59:46] reserves. But we do have 3.4 [4:59:47] million dollars available in [4:59:48] reserves that can be utilized [4:59:50] to offset this expenditures [4:59:55] as well. [4:59:56] >> new cities thing money I [4:59:57] mean is can a paying more money [5:00:02] than $200 in the lower Hill. [5:00:03] The other one every other city. [5:00:07] They're below a $100. [5:00:11] I under a $100. [5:00:16] >> Through the chair to chair. [5:00:16] For sure. Chair, yes, your your [5:00:18] record that's ok, [5:00:19] thank you. [5:00:19] >> My my my thing is is that [5:00:20] that you know I'm not there to [5:00:28] blame to think the point is. [5:00:29] Have we done studies any recent [5:00:30] every got hot. If if if we [5:00:32] would present a come to the [5:00:33] commission say we've done to [5:00:33] study what does all this [5:00:36] completely besides cutting [5:00:36] things there or charging [5:00:37] vision, I'll be ok, I'll see [5:00:44] that but if if we have to for [5:00:45] me. Not until I have of see [5:00:45] this. I would like to see just [5:00:49] like my family if [5:00:50] if I do my family or some of [5:00:51] them do ok we we should do this [5:00:55] we should they we have to do [5:00:56] is. But I've got to tell that [5:00:57] showed him what other revenues [5:01:02] that whether things I'm doing [5:01:03] there to bring some revenue [5:01:04] net. What is it what it is in [5:01:08] the House we need to cell or. [5:01:08] Bauer will do something there [5:01:09] when Rick's pics exhaust [5:01:12] everything that the only thing [5:01:13] we have to do because we need [5:01:19] it we're going to [5:01:19] have to I'm going to have hit [5:01:20] pitch and so can do but in this [5:01:23] case is [5:01:23] same thing the same residents [5:01:24] we talked all those assisting [5:01:28] talk about tonight. [5:01:28] And then and until we can [5:01:29] explain to them. Why we need [5:01:34] it. But or they need to get [5:01:34] where I'm going to find that [5:01:35] money. And that's all it is and [5:01:39] then. [5:01:40] If we've got a look what areas [5:01:41] should look at every area every [5:01:45] possibility to find that. [5:01:45] Not to pass it on. That's [5:01:55] that's what I meant that's all. [5:01:56] But I'm terrified 5 just [5:01:57] quickly and so commissioner. [5:01:57] The [5:02:01] reason why. [5:02:02] >> We need we need to move off [5:02:03] of the $95 amount is mainly [5:02:06] because I've. [5:02:09] Stabilization project right [5:02:10] so we've we've used all of the [5:02:11] arpa money or we have used all [5:02:12] the arpa money by the end of [5:02:13] DECEMBER will have used what [5:02:14] the general funds contributed [5:02:18] we have a little bit of work [5:02:19] left to do to finish. You know [5:02:20] that all the square feet or the [5:02:26] linear feet that the commission [5:02:26] had directed to be done. [5:02:27] And so that's the reason why we [5:02:30] need to move off of the 95 we [5:02:31] historically this is a story [5:02:32] always low assessment and as it [5:02:36] increased. Commissioner Louis [5:02:37] as earlier someone asked [5:02:37] earlier if this was you know if [5:02:42] the assessments once they're [5:02:42] set is always where it needs to [5:02:43] be this home that would [5:02:45] probably fortunate because [5:02:46] we're not going to stabilize [5:02:49] canals [5:02:50] every year ever going to [5:02:50] stabilize them and then that [5:02:54] system is supposed to end. [5:02:54] There MAY be some additional [5:02:55] once we need to do down the [5:03:01] road. But it but as the budget [5:03:01] manager said there is a reserve [5:03:02] that you can use so if you want [5:03:05] to do if you want to go in the [5:03:06] middle somewhere you can if not [5:03:06] there is a reserve that will [5:03:10] cover this cost and you can [5:03:13] leave it at the 95. It's what. [5:03:14] The guy that said what the [5:03:17] board wants [5:03:18] to do. And you know you MAY [5:03:19] want to give them a lot of that [5:03:23] on the project. [5:03:23] Probation are not part of the [5:03:24] board but I just want to help [5:03:34] us do this. [5:03:34] >> Okay so the canal state [5:03:35] loses civilization project the [5:03:38] schedule in DECEMBER. They're [5:03:38] still portions that need to be [5:03:42] on. [5:03:43] In addition we all, but you [5:03:44] have to look at I think [5:03:46] seawalls are some rocks to [5:03:46] stabilize the areas where the [5:03:47] court from. But that is not [5:03:52] going to work so just what we [5:03:53] need to increase the funds to [5:03:54] build up our reserves to [5:03:57] address on areas. [5:03:57] To ensure that man's question [5:04:02] you know Russia. [5:04:03] >> How many canals or are all [5:04:06] the canal is going to be. [5:04:07] Stabilize and everything's by [5:04:10] DECEMBER. [5:04:10] >> We're going to have a [5:04:11] proximity. I want to see 20. [5:04:13] There is of canals that are [5:04:15] going to [5:04:16] be addressed. But there is [5:04:16] where this method or using [5:04:19] other bags are not going to [5:04:21] work because [5:04:22] there's drop-offs we're going [5:04:23] to probably need seawalls are [5:04:25] we need to put on the big [5:04:26] boulders to reinforce them to [5:04:27] come back ok, [5:04:27] all right. [5:04:28] >> That's the first part of [5:04:29] question if not all of them not [5:04:33] all 30 and I want them to do [5:04:34] that then everybody in the city [5:04:37] will be. [5:04:38] When petraeus assessment how to [5:04:41] phrase it [5:04:41] because those words say well [5:04:42] why slump it what am I think [5:04:47] that's something that is not [5:04:47] even touching my area. I cannot [5:04:50] behind me so that's that's the [5:04:51] single and the second reason [5:04:52] second thing it if the re if [5:04:58] the fund is just for that or to [5:04:59] address these canals at what [5:05:00] point will if we do not have [5:05:06] any revenues at what point [5:05:06] weiwei's keeping this reserve [5:05:07] for. That's what I'm saying. [5:05:09] If it was set for that. [5:05:10] >> So so there's ongoing [5:05:13] maintenance where the [5:05:14] so we're looking to also [5:05:17] purchase a we do in the [5:05:19] next fiscal. Just go after [5:05:20] Harvester where to get weeds [5:05:21] out of the canals correct we [5:05:24] have to make sure that water [5:05:25] flows if we don't take it the [5:05:25] result of the canal. I was [5:05:31] talking to flow. [5:05:31] >> I get that sorry, I got it, [5:05:32] but it's just that I'm trying [5:05:33] to [5:05:34] figure that it's not all that [5:05:35] can House going to be repaired [5:05:37] or be stabilized at this point [5:05:40] those who [5:05:41] were not who and not being [5:05:42] repaired while they pay they're [5:05:44] going to ask why am I paying [5:05:48] for something [5:05:49] that's it's got my So what is [5:05:56] going to appear to be here. [5:05:59] Quick question. [5:06:02] How many. [5:06:03] >> Kinda have got left that [5:06:07] have been done is it Rossi. [5:06:13] >> Probably the. Maybe [5:06:14] >> And what would be the [5:06:15] turnaround time for the windows [5:06:18] if those other one that I'm not [5:06:19] going up the box and they need [5:06:20] to have the law that's going to [5:06:22] take a long time putting a [5:06:23] pause and instead of sandbox [5:06:27] dollar. [5:06:27] >> Real good assessment was [5:06:28] project complete is completed [5:06:29] in DECEMBER it will do an [5:06:30] assessment of the remaining [5:06:31] interest to other areas where [5:06:35] sea wall to the phone report [5:06:36] that but also to be addressed. [5:06:37] Okay, so that's up to DECEMBER. [5:06:39] Yes. [5:06:49] So we have to budget for that. [5:06:50] So we're just going to go see [5:06:51] was for the time being to [5:06:51] be 10 budget for what to do the [5:06:52] assessment and then we'll [5:06:55] figure have a ballpark of what [5:06:56] we need to put it for. So [5:07:01] there's nothing going into it. [5:07:01] >> Due to budget for the base [5:07:05] for their assessment of [5:07:06] the seawater but this fiscal [5:07:07] pressure that's going to be I [5:07:13] need. It was correct. I mean [5:07:14] But in the worst ones first [5:07:14] night that leave this house [5:07:15] that [5:07:18] was sinking. [5:07:18] >> Right so interesting to note [5:07:22] because we have those the grant [5:07:23] funds and we use this method to [5:07:23] get as much bang for a buck so [5:07:27] soccer. [5:07:28] For the record to chair for [5:07:31] the record. [5:07:37] >> vice mayor comes to [5:07:37] so the numbers I was like I [5:07:38] would like you know he just say [5:07:43] something but [5:07:44] >> the North up and around you [5:07:49] know all these cds [5:07:49] it's hard to argue the 7.37. [5:07:57] That was it. [5:07:58] I don't know why we're. So [5:08:02] pressing the mobile numbers. [5:08:03] What a control district is [5:08:04] every I never see the same [5:08:09] thing. [5:08:24] What the From ocd. Jet that. [5:08:24] >> I mean and that's what [5:08:25] that's what they're there to [5:08:29] pay so certain that it all [5:08:29] depends on the size of the [5:08:33] city. Of canals and have. [5:08:34] >> it projects that might have [5:08:35] going on so partly would have [5:08:42] too projects going on where as [5:08:49] >> Well is $51. [5:08:50] >> a bigger city where revenues [5:09:01] are. [5:09:09] Good to go to Texas to leave. [5:09:15] At all. [5:09:15] Was it business and that is to [5:09:16] cause a lot of people think I [5:09:19] can see that little residents [5:09:20] are complaining about it. [5:09:22] So keep in mind. [5:09:25] >> Given my we were at a [5:09:26] $100 on. 2 years ago and it was [5:09:27] reduced to 95 last fiscal year. [5:09:31] So we've we've been reducing it [5:09:31] so that that's another reason [5:09:34] why you know we [5:09:35] need to the backup to build our [5:09:36] reserves to addressing issues [5:09:40] that come up. [5:09:41] >> Well I haven't risen with [5:09:42] the he's think the 2000 others, [5:09:49] some and I mean does another [5:09:49] talks. And these properties [5:09:52] probably 400 of the moment. [5:09:57] Imagine. [5:09:58] They had their funding over [5:09:59] there is going to be more [5:10:06] money. [5:10:13] >> call the question. [5:10:14] The question where are the [5:10:25] questions. [5:10:28] Causing some to stoop to. [5:10:29] >> The motion that's on the [5:10:32] floor is [5:10:35] keep the make the rate the [5:10:36] suggested amount. It was motion [5:10:37] and second I just want to make [5:10:39] sure we [5:10:40] know that but that's what we [5:10:41] are there yet, but it is is on [5:10:46] the [5:10:46] floor correct. That's what I'm [5:10:47] just so you know was a chair [5:10:53] the the motion. [5:10:53] Have a motion to have a motion [5:10:57] a second or [5:10:58] >> The motion a second that was [5:10:58] on the floor was to keep the to [5:11:01] keep that can't get this under [5:11:09] a he's a 100. [5:11:10] >> Keep it that are $2.95 a [5:11:11] year or is it a motion to [5:11:14] approve the 2 and it was a [5:11:15] motion to approve the motion [5:11:16] was as red and the motion as to [5:11:18] how it was going to 200 so if [5:11:19] you want to change that [5:11:20] argument to anything that you [5:11:23] have to. [5:11:24] >> Turn that you know the so [5:11:28] the motion is [5:11:31] to keep the rate at 95, not [5:11:32] know that the poll struggle the [5:11:33] pros at 200 yes, what the [5:11:35] resolution for the resolution [5:11:40] r. [5:11:41] >> It was a motion made by vice [5:11:52] mayor seconded by you. [5:11:53] >> So that should you want it [5:11:54] you can vote yes and no oh yes. [5:12:01] Oh, yes, yes, no or [5:12:02] maybe so. Haha so I call the [5:12:08] roll. Yes please. [5:12:09] Supervisor Martin. So is the [5:12:09] key country. Yes mansion, 200 [5:12:12] okay, so now. Supervisory board [5:12:20] CHAIRMAN. [5:12:21] Supervisor just want to know. [5:12:30] Supervisor Luis. [5:12:31] That was Rick it's you know. [5:12:39] So it does not pass. [5:12:40] >> Right there needs to yeah [5:12:40] there needs to be another [5:12:47] motion. I'll say this. [5:12:48] >> There was a motion. Have [5:12:55] this rate that was $200. [5:12:56] He said that the motion to set [5:13:03] a different rate. [5:13:04] We want is to ensure that the [5:13:05] motion what do you have a [5:13:17] motion played yeah. [5:13:18] >> My motion will be 2 recent [5:13:19] on em up to 100. I mean from 95 [5:13:21] to 100 $5 more. [5:13:25] And the other. [5:13:26] 1 one 59 is second, it's not to [5:13:33] do that. [5:13:34] >> Second 95 to 100 that's what [5:13:34] based on based on what we [5:13:41] discussed tonight again. [5:13:42] >> There's a gold mine but just [5:13:42] something to 95 ago I my [5:13:51] purpose is to $105 more. [5:13:52] >> It's still a lack of a [5:13:55] second that. [5:14:03] What are the one 50. [5:14:07] Since you have. [5:14:07] The second thing to do the [5:14:13] whole time. [5:14:14] >> Vice chair Martin. [5:14:17] Supervisory board to know. [5:14:20] Supervisor Bustamante. [5:14:28] Supervisor Luis. [5:14:28] And cheer was for cuts know. [5:14:33] That does not pass either. [5:14:34] When you from where we need [5:14:39] another 8 so one 25. Second. [5:14:46] Vice chair Martin. [5:14:46] Supervisory board to know. [5:14:49] Pfizer to Monte. [5:14:54] Supervisor Luis yeah. [5:14:55] Was Rick it was Rick it says no [5:15:01] no. [5:15:02] >> Supervisor Luis recut know [5:15:06] that does not pass either. [5:15:24] One 20. [5:15:25] >> Vice chair Burton, yes [5:15:25] supervisor, 41. You know. [5:15:28] Supervisor Bustamante. [5:15:32] Vizer Lewis yes. [5:15:38] I was like yes. [5:15:38] So you could guess so that is 3 [5:15:53] to 2. So that