1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:08,440 all right good evening ladies and gentlemen 2 00:00:06,359 --> 00:00:14,799 this is the north Miami citizens investigative board sitting here in 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:19,920 council chambers on Monday February the 26 4 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:25,880 2024 time is now 6:12 p.m. call to order please stand for the 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,880 Pledge of 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:34,719 Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and 7 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:40,320 to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with 8 00:00:37,239 --> 00:00:45,360 liberty and justice for all thank you and please be 9 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:51,840 seated Rose let's have the roll call please with pleasure Vice chair my name 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:58,800 is Rose Michelle grandpierre Secretary of the board and we will start with uh 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:04,400 the chair who is excused Randy Grace Vice chair Kevin C 12 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:10,560 present RBI Joey Lang present attorney Andre 13 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,560 Pierre did we hear from 14 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Andre and Miss Mar m we do have to proceed very good thank 15 00:01:18,119 --> 00:01:24,479 you very much chair will call for a motion to 16 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:30,360 approve the minutes of our CIB meeting from January 17 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:36,600 22nd at 6: pm. second all right we have a motion made by Rabbi 18 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:42,840 Lang I second it second by Rose all in favor I second myself there you go all 19 00:01:40,159 --> 00:01:48,960 right we've approved the minutes reports our chairperson is absent so I do not 20 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:55,079 have a report on from Randy but Marcia does have a report that she and and 21 00:01:51,560 --> 00:02:00,719 Randy attended uh a meeting and I'd like Marcia to please give us that 22 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:06,640 report well we met with speak out of the mic we met with 23 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:13,640 two individuals from the federal government in reference to um a request 24 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:17,760 by the chief to come in and ascertain how we're doing at the police department 25 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:21,599 and um they told us basically what they were 26 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:27,280 going to be doing how they were going to be proceeding and um we were allowed to 27 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:30,599 ask a few questions I had none because they were very succinct in their 28 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:37,840 descriptions as to what was going to be do um they did give us a date as to when 29 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:42,599 the report will be completed but I wasn't prepared I don't remember the 30 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:46,519 date that they said but um they just asked us basically how did we feel 31 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:50,280 personally about our interactions with the police in the city of North Miami I 32 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:57,000 had nothing but positive things to say as I usually do um it was quick painless 33 00:02:53,959 --> 00:03:02,120 and I think productive for them in the sense that they got a good sense that 34 00:02:59,239 --> 00:03:07,280 our department department is well run and most of the citizens citizenry are 35 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:13,360 happy with our police Bally thank you very much it's a 36 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,720 wonderful report all right we have a report from our legal 37 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:24,280 councel there are no open referrals and there have been no new referrals so 38 00:03:22,799 --> 00:03:30,560 everything is C all right thank you Dr Harris a report 39 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,879 from you please yes so good evening everyone I just want to give you just a 40 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:39,480 update related to House Bill 601 and Senate Bill 41 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:44,879 576 um as many of you know this these two counterpart bills were filed back in 42 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:50,080 November uh we've been having some fast momentum and movement with that and uh 43 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:56,319 what I want to let you be aware of is last week Wednesday in the Senate um 44 00:03:53,879 --> 00:04:01,360 5676 was passed through a third committee and it was passed by 11 to5 45 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:05,519 vote um um and they're looking at placing it on this Wednesday's calendar 46 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:11,079 for a special order calendar with the Senate and then from the house it 47 00:04:08,079 --> 00:04:16,239 actually passed the front the floor um pass majority um from the house this 48 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:20,720 past Thursday so what does that mean it means that um civilian oversight 49 00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:25,600 agencies as of July 1st that are existing that are that are actively 50 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:30,479 moving just like us um will be have to uh pretty much dismantle our operations 51 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:34,199 and that's across 21 jurisdictions across the city and counties across the 52 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:40,600 State of Florida and that concludes my report all right Dr Harris to follow up 53 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:45,880 on that have we drafted proposed city ordinance that would broaden the 54 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:49,320 functions of our CIB we had had some discussion about that I actually have a 55 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:53,360 meeting tomorrow with the city manager so probably next next board meeting next 56 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:58,560 month I can give you all more of an update on where we stand on that all 57 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:03,680 right thank you very much you're welcome what forget that 58 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:08,600 they whatever they're planning or trying to accomplish makes no sense um if they 59 00:05:07,039 --> 00:05:15,400 pass this why can't the 60 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:20,319 city vote to maintain this the reason why as a city we could 61 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:24,440 not is because it will become a state law in which the state law and the 62 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:29,160 governor will have the authority to actually sanction our city if we did as 63 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:33,960 a local municipality to continue to move forward with civilian oversight that's 64 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:39,160 why we could not do it and what is the prevailing 65 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:43,800 justification for this decision so again the reason and irrational behind this is 66 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:49,440 that they feel that across meaning the House of Representatives and the Senate 67 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:53,880 um all feel as a majority that there are 21 different agencies that are doing 21 68 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:58,160 different things um they don't feel like there's a unified system that's in place 69 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,720 they feel it should be handled at a a higher level which could be done by by 70 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:06,599 either the state attorney or FDLE will be the individuals handling um as well 71 00:06:04,039 --> 00:06:10,360 as our internal police departments police officers have internal um 72 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:15,440 internal investigations that are in place um and they feel that that should 73 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:21,479 be um handled under those opes in their portfolio have the majority of the 74 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:26,000 police departments um agreed with that we haven't received a a joint um 75 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,639 Collective uh conversation about that what we did is we we tried to have a 76 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,880 coalition of other civilian oversight and tried to bring together um a 77 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:37,880 convening of police Chiefs but we just were not able as a coalition to be able 78 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:43,240 to move fast enough as fast as that they're moving um to kind of bring a 79 00:06:40,479 --> 00:06:50,440 convening of bodies together to discuss um that to kind of see their actual 80 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:57,919 position on it and who initiated it was actually filed um by Senator out of um 81 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:02,160 Jacksonville um and then a House of Representative out of spring Hill 82 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:07,360 Florida um I believe the representative from Spring Hill was representative 83 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:11,800 dougen was the representative out of um Hernando County can't recall the name of 84 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:15,440 the senator that was out of Jacksonville though but it was the senator out of 85 00:07:16,039 --> 00:07:24,080 Jacksonville are there any further questions for Dr Harris at this time 86 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,879 how's your wife doing pretty good it's doing doing better doing better but it's 87 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:31,560 we have our good days and we have our bad days but we did take it you know I 88 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:35,720 just keep it on the Lord's hands that you know we'll you know we'll Prevail 89 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:42,599 that's all I can say at this point God will thank you all right no further 90 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:47,319 questions thank you all right at this time we move to the North Miami Police 91 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:54,360 Department indiv year report uh who will be presenting will it 92 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:59,680 be major cindyana Paul or the chief good evening board Shere SCA chief of police 93 00:07:57,039 --> 00:08:04,840 I am just going to introduce major Paul who will be uh providing the end of year 94 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:10,199 report to you um just wanted to introduce her she joined the Miami 95 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:15,280 Police Department's executive staff in January of 2024 came from the city of 96 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:19,680 Miami Police Department with an extensive background in various facets 97 00:08:17,639 --> 00:08:24,159 of law enforcement so she will be overseeing the office of professional 98 00:08:21,479 --> 00:08:29,800 compliance which encompasses Internal Affairs uh policy development and 99 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:34,959 officer accountability so with that I introduce you to Major 100 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Paul thank good evening everyone good evening 101 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:45,920 good evening uh see the attachments for the 102 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:51,959 report I will say um I'm very proud to be part of this agency and under the 103 00:08:48,399 --> 00:09:00,000 wing of Chief boss uh great opportunity um some of the highlights for the annual 104 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:04,279 report we go straight to hold on the first section so we have the 105 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:08,920 supervisory control of persons inventory as you can see there were negative 106 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:13,399 changes so the incidents reported total officers involved the physical all of 107 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,600 those numbers have gone down from 2022 to 108 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:24,880 2023 the next section we have is the traffic crashes even though the increase 109 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:29,279 shows to be higher than the year before um the comparison was attributed to 110 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:33,160 necessarily that the officers not not necessarily that the officers were doing 111 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:39,640 something wrong but the anomaly for 2022 versus 2023 but in total the 112 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:43,760 crashes were not significant enough or there were no patterns or anything that 113 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:48,640 were attributed to the accidents in general so there was nothing major for 114 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:53,760 the staff to follow up with bias based policing there were 115 00:09:52,160 --> 00:10:00,399 several presentations that were done throughout the schools um by the cops 116 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:05,880 officers within the department the dates in all the schools that um are 117 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,880 listed on pages 6 through 118 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:17,279 7 happy to report officer involved shootings they still remain at zero um 119 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:21,640 deescalation and also additional training that the officers received was 120 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:27,040 explained as well throughout the year to have a positive impact on 121 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:33,000 that the internal affairs complaints as well from five 122 00:10:29,959 --> 00:10:36,240 I'm sorry from a total of eight from the year before to now 123 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:43,600 three and if I'm correct the three Internal Affairs investigations um were 124 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:46,680 internal so it was not necessarily something that came from complaints from 125 00:10:45,079 --> 00:10:51,399 citizens to my understanding from what the sergeant explained as well for the 126 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:57,200 year and then we have our action review system is when the officers uh certain 127 00:10:54,440 --> 00:11:02,720 actions or policy and discrepancies fall within the category for the year for 128 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:06,079 2022 we had one and for 2023 we have no officers that fell within that 129 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:15,880 category thank you very much any questions I'm confused I don't know what 130 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:23,079 that means the action review system the action review system uh okay so there is 131 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:28,720 certain policies so under on page 10 right um there are categories that 132 00:11:26,079 --> 00:11:35,160 we that we take a look at so supervisory control contr of person reports vehicle 133 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:39,839 Chase packages crash reports and also if I'm correct there is another uh use of 134 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:44,040 force preventable crash and also Internal Affairs investigation so if 135 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:47,639 there is categories where the officer violates a policy or is found to have 136 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:52,320 violated a policy and they fall within those categories within the year time 137 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:56,760 span they get automatically attributed to the action review system so then 138 00:11:53,959 --> 00:12:01,160 they're provided additional training or additional uh you can say overseeing by 139 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:04,160 the supervisor to make sure that there are preventative measures that are 140 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:09,440 taking place so they don't repeat the same behaviors so we kind of help them 141 00:12:06,519 --> 00:12:14,519 to additional training monitoring uh coaching from their supervisor to have 142 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:18,600 them not infract or not have policy violations within that time span so they 143 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:24,279 kind of fall off while they continue to improve in their performance everyone 144 00:12:21,079 --> 00:12:24,279 should be very proud of this 145 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:33,160 report he said everyone everyone should be proud of this report yeah 146 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:39,240 yes job we have any other questions if I may add something which is a comment yes 147 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:44,639 it is to congratulate not only the chief but the entire cor for the great job 148 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:49,959 that they are doing within the community I've been following the chief and not 149 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:57,959 Miami not Miami Police as well on social media I can testify what you are doing 150 00:12:53,760 --> 00:13:02,260 please keep doing it we feel definitely safer around here absolutely thank you 151 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,519 thank [Applause] 152 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:12,279 you I will follow that up and say that although I don't have consistent contact 153 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:17,880 with police officers in the city the contact that I have is always positive 154 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:22,120 they're always very professional I I think the city seems to have very high 155 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:28,360 standards for training officers and a good sense of AE of core 156 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:33,800 and I look forward to hearing good things to be at next year's officer of 157 00:13:31,199 --> 00:13:39,720 the Year Awards as I was this year uh Chief question please how many 158 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:45,680 vacancies do we now have well as of last week we now have 159 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:52,160 one vacancy we did have a police officer to leave the department uh in order to 160 00:13:48,839 --> 00:13:55,560 go to another local agency which happens and you were speaking about police 161 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:59,320 officers I'm I just assumed police officers yes so we do have one vacancy 162 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,240 at this time and we have five individuals in the 163 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:08,440 police academy right now so we're looking forward to them graduating 164 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:13,680 successfully so that they can join the department and hopefully they won't be 165 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:18,079 grabbed off by somebody else yeah but it happens you know and so um just like 166 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:23,680 most agencies Across the Nation retention and recruitment are an issue 167 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:27,800 so um it's not just exclusive to us but you know departments Across the Nation 168 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:31,720 are experiencing the same effect are those officers we've 169 00:14:29,639 --> 00:14:36,720 sponsored or are they paying for their own 170 00:14:34,079 --> 00:14:41,800 Academy we are sponsoring them yeah we are sponsoring them so we'll go and get 171 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:46,639 them if they leave don't worry so that's an interesting question if we sponsor 172 00:14:44,199 --> 00:14:51,560 them through the academy is there an automatic contractual obligation to so 173 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:55,480 there is a contractual obligation and that obligation is for you to remain 174 00:14:53,079 --> 00:14:59,399 with the department for two years in the event that you don't and we had a recent 175 00:14:57,279 --> 00:15:04,160 case um we do recoup try our best to recoup um the 176 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:08,360 cost of the academy which is a little over 177 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:11,759 $6,000 uh so we just recently had an experience like that I actually got some 178 00:15:10,279 --> 00:15:16,079 guidance from another police chief that was experiencing the same thing and what 179 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:20,279 he explained was that when they attach to another agency is when we can 180 00:15:17,639 --> 00:15:25,519 actually you know demand send a demand letter for the tuition fees um so when 181 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:32,800 that individual maybe a couple of months after he resigned went to join a local 182 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:37,440 Department I did so and we are now in um we are in negotiations and have made a 183 00:15:35,079 --> 00:15:41,360 contract and he will be paying some of the money that we've already received so 184 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:45,880 far so I don't want to understand why the department that he went to wouldn't 185 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:51,839 be paying I mean that's the only proper respectful thing well he is not an 186 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:57,000 employee of the department yet he is seeking employment with that department 187 00:15:54,440 --> 00:16:01,360 so I made contact with that police chief and you know informed him and send over 188 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:05,880 the documents and so um as long as we are going to recoup the tuition I'm I'm 189 00:16:04,519 --> 00:16:10,639 good with that who pays yeah because in in most cases you 190 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:15,360 know you lose the employee and you lose the ability to recoup the funds and it's 191 00:16:13,399 --> 00:16:19,040 good for us because then we can send someone else to the academy well that 192 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:23,959 officer made a mistake yes yes this is a good place to 193 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:29,480 be absolutely well thank you very much for 194 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:36,920 that you thank you may I please you may Rose I am taking this opportunity to uh 195 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:42,680 invite all the residents to the great training on artificial intelligence yes 196 00:16:40,319 --> 00:16:49,440 that the office I me the the the police officers are offering I went I saw and I 197 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:57,319 can testify as well that it is a good training if every single one listening 198 00:16:53,000 --> 00:17:04,360 to this uh meeting uh can go and see for themselves what is it about it will be 199 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:09,480 recommended sure so um and I can just elaborate a little bit is there is a 200 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:13,079 program called clear view um that helps and AIDS us with investigations through 201 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:19,280 artificial intelligence and facial recognition and so before we procure the 202 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:24,199 the software fully we want to make sure that the community understands what it 203 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:27,880 is we're doing um understands the policy that we're going to have that's going to 204 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:32,760 be associated with and understand that there will be rules and regulations as 205 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:36,760 far as how we utilize that technology so we just want to be open and transparent 206 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:41,080 about what it is that we're going to do and yes thank you for attending the 207 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:46,440 meeting uh we are able to demonstrate how it has been beneficial in some 208 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:51,760 investigative cases that we've had well before the state rules us out of 209 00:17:48,480 --> 00:18:00,000 business perhaps we could have the department schedule an agenda item to 210 00:17:55,679 --> 00:18:05,080 make those explanations form before the CIB could we can do that could that be 211 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:10,440 done we can all right let's go ahead and put that in play since we're obviously 212 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:16,080 carried on the local cable tap Network this would be a good opportunity to put 213 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:21,600 this out to a broader range of citizenry that happen to watch these programs sure 214 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:25,799 uh and Dr Harris if you could arrange with the chief to schedule an 215 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,440 appropriate time before we are uh rendered passay by our illustrious in 216 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:36,360 ever seeeing big brother up in Tallahassee 217 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:43,200 and I shall refrain from further commentary on that but uh I 218 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:48,200 think uh getting the presentations made on the record here would be a positive 219 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:53,240 thing we can definitely arrange it that's very good thank you Chief we 220 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:58,559 appreciate your courtesy thank you major it's very nice to have you with us wish 221 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:03,240 you every success in this department and hope you'll be with us for many many 222 00:19:00,919 --> 00:19:09,480 many many many many years thank you thank you for coming 223 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:12,280 here my fan mail is going to dry up if we cease to 224 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:21,360 exist all right uh do we have any unfinished business no all right do we 225 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:25,640 have any public comment and I I don't see any public is is there any uh 226 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:30,080 Communications from the public to we right into the record none no all right 227 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:39,200 good of the order do we have any pertinent issues any members sick or in 228 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:44,280 distress none very none in which case the chair will call for motion to 229 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:51,760 adjourn motion to ajour all right motion made by Rose seconded 230 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:55,760 by Rabbi Lang thank you all in favor all we are Reed that's a