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» present.
>> Council Rustin

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» present.
>> Councelor Warrington

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» present.
>> Councelor Le

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» present.
>> Thank you. Now we're on to item number

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four, agenda additions or corrections.
So I believe I had some minute

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corrections. So, I would like to move
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new business. Is that okay with
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» Yes. Okay. Are there any other changes
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Hearing none, I'd be open to a motion.
>> Councelor Weber, I would make a motion

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for the approval of the consent agenda.

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It will just be the agenda since we
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» Thank you. Could I get a second, please?
>> Second.

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» Okay, we have Councelor Rustin has the
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» I.
>> Any opposed?

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Motion carries.
>> Now, we're going to go to public

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comment. I have the public comment
sheets here.

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Uh, just a reminder, please come up and
state your name. Resident, rural

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resident, non-resident.
Uh, you have three minutes. Let me get

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my timer ready.

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The first name is Lisa Ferrar.

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Good evening, counselors. I am here
tonight as a Brinhill homeowner to share

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a brief update about our community. Uh
last week, as you may know, the

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developer LAR officially turned control
over of the Brinhill Homeowners

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Association to the homeowners
themselves. We now have a homeowner

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elected board of directors. We are also
retaining the current management company

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Rolling Rock that has worked closely
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as we move forward. We also understand
that public restrooms are being

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installed in the area and will be
managed by the city. We'd like to

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establish a good line of communication
with the city so that any concerns

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regarding safety, cleanliness, or
maintenance can be addressed together

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and promptly. Brinhill has welcomed many
new families, young families to North

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Plains, bringing energy experiences and
perspectives to our community. We know

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we're still new here, but we hope to
become a welcomed and valued part of

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North Plains, to be good neighbors, to
get involved, and to contribute to the

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community we now call home. Thank you.
>> Thank you, sir.

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» The next name is Meredith Buff.

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I'm Meredith Bach. I live on 309th,
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the Jesse Mays Community Center. In
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tribute to Jesse with her photographs so
people would know that she was not a

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man.
And I now have an exhibit that you could

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send around me with a rough draft of how
that might work. And it is small. And as

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I've talked to various people, we've
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magnificent
big pieces of art. But I spoke to

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Jesse's son, Elmer, who is 100 years old
and counting,

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and he agreed with me that Jesse would
be pleased if people could get a drink

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of water at the playground.
And the size of that example, the

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exhibit, is the size that we can afford,
$500. And I suggest, and Elmer agrees,

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that it could easily be installed over
the drinking fountains and people would

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be refreshed and informed.
And I hope that this suggestion right

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now will arrive at the parks meeting
next Monday if in fact that occurs. I've

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had trouble finding out when that group
gets together.

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One suggestion was that you needed to
advise them to get together.

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But in any case, my words will be
recorded, I hope, and be provided. Thank

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you.
>> Thank you, Meredith. Next up, Russ Sh.

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Russ Sheldon, resident.

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I'm here tonight because I care deeply
about the future and the governance of

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the city. I want to address something
bigger than any one counselor issue or

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political disagreement.
Who is governing North Plains? and our

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voters being given the opportunity to
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Over the past several years, North
Plains has experienced significant

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turnover in elected leadership
and senior administration, including

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mayoral and council resignations,
city manager turnover, and changes in

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department leadership.
At the same time, more council positions

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have been filled by appointment rather
than direct election.

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Appointments may be legally permitted,
but there is an important distinction

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between temporarily filling a vacancy
and allowing appointments to become a

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continuing substitute for the voters's
ability to choose their representatives.

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That is why I believe the council should
be cautious about any action that

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further separates public office from
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That brings me to the recall process.
Recall is an exercise of the voters's

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power. It is not a determination of
guilt or a conviction, nor does it

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require voters to remove an official. It
simply gives the people the opportunity

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to decide whether an elected official
should continue serving.

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Once citizens have lawfully completed
the recall process and submitted the

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required signatures, the ultimate
decision should belong to the voters.

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Whether councelor Mark DeForge should
remain in office should not be decided

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by this council. It should be decided by
the people.

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Regardless of where we stand on growth,
development, audits, city finances, or

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individual counselors,
I believe we can agree that government

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works best when it is transparent,
accountable, and answerable to the

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people it serves.
That means following the city charter,

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respecting counciling rules, maintaining
appropriate boundaries

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between elected officials and city
staff, and conducting public business

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openly when the law requires it. North
Plains is at an important crossroads. We

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can continue on a path where residents
question whether their voices matter, or

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we can restore trust by respecting the
voters.

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and respecting their voice voices,
following the rules and putting

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residents at the center of city
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Ultimately, the people, not the council,
activists, special interests, or

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individual office should have the final
say about who represents them. Thank

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you. Thank you, sir.

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and start which kind.

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Is it on
the green light? Did I touch something?

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Oh,

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how's that?
All right. don't work. So, it's okay. I

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got a loud voice. Anyway, I'm here
tonight supporting uh

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we try. Okay.

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» Sorry. Okay. All right. Well, anyway,
but Kindle live [clears throat] on uh I

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live on Lennox Street right here about a
block and a half from right here from

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city hall. Been here for 51 years.
Anyway, I'm here to support Cindy Hurst

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tonight for uh for mayor. Uh this is the
first time that I can remember in 44

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years that we've had this appointment by
so many people sitting here on city

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council. They should all be elected.
That's what we have a government for and

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gives everybody a chance to hear for
themselves, not just a few people that

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are concerned be sitting here tonight.
So all you city councilors are uh this

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is a pivotal point for North Plains. I
feel uh we need somebody in here. I have

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nothing against Mark is maybe running
the city, but I think he could move

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over. Let's sit and sit down. Let's all
learn from experience. That's what

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you're all missing that I can see. It
takes time. Usually, we get one or two

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come in on a on a quorum of seven
counselors. So, nobody ever steps right

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into a mayor position. And like I said,
I think you guys need that's what you're

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lacking is the experience and you four
or five times you never took that stuff

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in the point of this and uh why don't
you guys want I mean what you scared to

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death of us or what I mean we're not
going to chew your head off. We want to

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help you and that's what we're here for.
So that's my role. S can do that. I've

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been with her her and her husband. We
were on city council almost 40 years.

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Her husband her
>> sat right here and we had fun. and I

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want you guys to have fun. So, take my
advice, please. Thank you so much.

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» Thank you, sir. That concludes public
comment. Is there anyone that is uh

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online that submitted a request?
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» council. I submitted a request at 10:30
this morning. Linda Gallis Merton from

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Strong Towns.
Go ahead, Linda. Thank you.

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» So, um, good evening, councilors. Uh, my
name is Linda Gallas Merin representing

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Strong Towns North Plains with members
throughout 97133.

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Typically, cities pass specific
municipal codes that explicitly

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adopt their logo or seal, prohibit
unauthorized commercial or political

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use, and establish fines or legal
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We have not been able to find any
adoption of such a policy in North

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Plains, nor can we find any council
approved policy governing the use of the

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city's logo.
As a result, if you stop by the North

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Plain Senior Center, a private
nonprofit, you will see this recently

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installed sign on the front door.

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» As you can see, it bears the distinct
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Seeing a city logo on a building is
supposed to mean that the structure

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belongs to or is operated by the local
uh municipal government. This is not the

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case for the North Plain Senior Center.
So this raises a number of questions.

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One, who among city staff authorized the
use of the logo for this purpose?

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If no one, then who at the senior center
authorized its use? Did public works

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install the sign as reported by
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If yes, who gave the work order to
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And who paid for the sign? Since there
seems to be no codes that would forbid

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this type of use, there may be nothing
to be done in this particular case other

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than to ask nicely for the signs to be
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However, the council can adopt policy
around the use and abuse of the city's

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logo, and we urge you to do so with some
urgency and to make the policy

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retroactive.
Thank you very much for your

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consideration.

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» Thank you, Linda.

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Is there anyone else online that
submitted public comment requests by 3

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p.m.

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Hearing none, I'm going to move on

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public comment
on our agenda. Next is consent agenda

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which we have moved to new business. So
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[sighs and gasps]
awarding contract for new roof on a

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Jesse Wings community center.

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» Mayor and members of city council, you
have for you a report recommending a

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contract to fix the roof here at the May
Center. Uh public works has received

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three bids for the work. They've
evaluated them and we're recommending

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that you adopt resolution 2349.
I'm sorry. You in 26 you adopted

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resolution 2349
allocating $100,000 out of the general

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fund contingency for the new roof. Our
recommendation is that uh SA roofing be

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selected to replace the current uh roof
at the maze center with a metal roof in

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an amount not to exceed $59,950
and authorize the city manager to enter

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into a contract with the SA.
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» Thank you, sir.
So, I'll just add to that quick recap.

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So there was a budget committee meeting
where this was discussed and the funds

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were allocated in a resolution that
the funds. So now they've selected a

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contractor and they're looking for
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Now uh are you looking for a motion from
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» you can move the recommendation.
>> Okay. So, first can we have some

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discussion? What do you guys think about
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» Warrington. Um, I just wanted to call
out that the three um contract uh

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proposals, one from Ideal Roofing, I did
some AI Google searching. I have no

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conflict of interest. I didn't
communicate with these people. I just

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researched them a little bit. Ideal
roofing has a 4.9 out of five stars. JT

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has a 4.6 out of five stars and essay,
the one they're recommending, has a five

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out of five stars. So, I just want to
say good job on picking the roofing

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choices.

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Councelor Rustin, I do have a question.
If we're being asked to

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approve an amount of $59,950
not to exceed that uh says right here

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that the cost all bids included a note
in the case of the need to replace wood

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portions of the structures there will be
an additional cost. I watch a lot of

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home shows there's always additional
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» What happens then?
>> Um $100,000 is allocated in the budget

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for this project. I like the concept but
do not exceed but the contract will

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require them to come to to us and say
hey we're going to go beyond budget

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we'll need this extra money
so that so that's what happen

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structure around the roof

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thank you
>> one more question councelor wariner is

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there any scheduling constraints around
any of these?

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» So, will the contractor be able to move
forward quickly as we approach the rainy

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season?
>> That that is our hope. We understand

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that the rainy season is coming and we
want to get this work in and done before

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it gets heavy and rain.
>> Councelor Weber, do we have clarity?

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Does this building get shut down
throughout the entire process?

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We think it might have limited use.
It'll depend on the status of the

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weather as well as the work in progress.

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» Good.

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And so uh thank you for compiling this
report. I did want to just reiterate um

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if we can align that all of the bids
that we receive we do because we are

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using taxpayer funds need to select the
lowest bid. Correct.

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» Right.
>> Okay. Um the other part I wanted to

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touch on is what the timeline looks
like. And it sounds like there's still

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some question marks there. Um, but I
think as we all know, this space is is

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slated to be used uh for some community
events that are really near and dear to

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our heart. So I would I would just be
curious if later on you could provide an

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update of a timeline and any disruptions
to the space.

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» Yeah, we'll be meetings next week with
the contractor to work all those details

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out. We'll also have a copy of the
schedule of potential uses and see how

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we can adjust work schedules so some of
those events can take place.

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» Okay. Thank you.

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» So, I prepped ahead of time in case you
wanted a motion. I'll just toss this

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motion out for your guys's
consideration.

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The council authorizes the interim city
manager to award a contract to SA

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roofing with authority to spend up to
$59,950.

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Does that sound like an acceptable
motion to you?

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» Yes, it does.
>> Okay. Is there any more discussion that

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you guys would like to have? I got to
say I really appreciate I believe it was

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Cody who who moved this forward. We we
asked for this work I think it was maybe

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in the May June time frame and I really
appreciate him stepping up and moving

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this forward.
So at this point are you guys

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comfortable with moving forward on a
motion?

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» Yes.
>> Okay. So the motion again was that

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council authorizes the interim city
manager to award a contract to SA

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roofing with authority to spend up to
59,

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950.
>> I get a

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» councelor Weber so moved.
>> Okay. Thank you, sir.

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» I uh I'm looking for a second at this
point. Councelor Warrington with a

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second. So we have an active motion. Is
there any discussion you guys would like

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to have before we vote on this?

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Okay. All in favor of this motion say I.
I.

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» I. Any opposed.
Motion carries.

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Now we're going to move to agenda 7B,
which is authorization to seek bids to

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contract for city manager search.
Mayor and members of city council. Uh,

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as you know from my contract, I will be
here through February of 27. Uh, I think

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high on your priority list would be the
selection process for a permanent city

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manager. I'm recommending that you
authorize me to seek proposals

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uh from search firms that bring those
recommendations to council on October

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26. I included in my report a rough
schedule. Uh the marketplace for finding

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permanent city managers is really tough.
Takes more time than you would think. Uh

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but October for us to contract with the
firm. Uh review and update the manager

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job description, which would be your
job. In November, begin recruitment and

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seeking applicants. in December, review
the applicants, selecting five or six

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finalists, conduct the interviews in
town, select the final candidate, and

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hopefully in January or early February,
start the new manager. Now, that

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schedule will firm up once we get a
firm. But I'm I'm recommending that you

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authorize me to seek proposals from
search firms and bring that

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recommendation back to you in October
this year.

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» Okay. Okay. So, you're looking for an
authorization to begin the search.

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You're not going to make choices or
spend money or brings us so the council

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still has the ability to shape the
process.

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» Good, good question, mayor. No, this is
something you have to do.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay. Is there any discussion you guys

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would like to have?
>> Excellent idea. Do we need a resolution

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or just a consensus support?
>> Paul, would you like a motion from us on

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this? I'd like a motion adopting the
recommendation.

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» Okay. So, uh if I were to I saw
councelor Ugarte, would you like to?

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» Sure. Uh council, I move to authorize
the interim city manager to seek

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proposals from search firms and bring a
recommendation to council in October

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2026.
>> I have a second.

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» Second.
>> Second from councelor Warrington. Any

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further discussion before you guys vote
on this?

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Okay. All those in favor of the motion
say I.

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» I.
>> I. I.

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» I.
>> Any oppose?

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Thank you. Motion carries.

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» Moving to agenda item 7C, resolution
number 2370,

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authorization to proceed with state
grant from Blankolder.

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Mayor and members of the city council,
as you well know, the city's been

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working for several years to clean up
the Glen Cole property. We've been

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working with um Palpac as well as Tom
Holt put together an application for a

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state grant to assist in that process.
Uh there are fe several sources that

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have offered to assist the city in the
cleanup. uh and we want to take

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advantage of that. And the schedule for
the grant applications is later around

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this month, so we need to move it fairly
quickly. Uh there is no known budget

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impact to you at this time. Uh but I
would ask you to adopt a resolution

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authorizing the application for a state
grant.

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» Okay. Thank you, sir. Is there any
discussion?

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What is uh if we receive the grant, how
long before we would actually have the

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funds?
>> According to Tom and Calac on this,

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their schedule of anticipation is
shortly after the first of next year to

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get moving on cleaning up that property.

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Councelor Warrington, again just for
transparency, uh because people have

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been asking me what the status is on
what's happening. Uh so from what I

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understand, uh this grant is
supplemental funding for the structure

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removal. At the same time, a soil
amendment paperwork is going to be

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worked on. Uh bids for soil removal will
be happening. The soil is then removed.

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Uh clean soil is added and then it the
developmental steps occur from there.

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Just a recap.
>> That That is correct, Councilwoman.

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» Thank you.
>> I'll chime in. I really appreciate the

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staff for moving this forward. I think
this is a big opportunity for the city.

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Uh love to clean up that property and I
love their willingness to get the

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grants. Is this um is this Bailey and
Eric and who else was participating on

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that?
>> Uh Tom Holt.

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» Tom Holt. Yes. I appreciate
[clears throat]

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appreciate the initiative. This is a
sounds like a good idea.

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» I I should point out mayor and councel
that uh lots of the work that I do is

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driven by the priorities. The fact that
we have a pretty commitment from the

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state for the money that this is a high
priority for the council to get done

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means that we've got to throw stuff
together to get it this far. what Tom's

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waiting for is the signed resolution.
And then that's sort of the state will

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want to know too. What's where's the
resolution from the city. I should also

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mention that a gentleman contacted me
the other day. He claims he has a

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contract to take down the barn on that
property. I haven't found the contract

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yet. I need to find that, research it,
uh, and double check with the attorneys

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to make sure that can be done.
I know there's been uh concern about

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salvaging yes kind of the nice material.
I think uh Ross's feedback to us was

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» he felt that structure was safe unsafe
and so I would just whatever we can do

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to keep employees safe and contractors
safe as we demo it but try and preserve

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as much of it as possible. There any
other comments from council?

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I would hope if there was a contract the
that person could also produce the

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contract if there is one.
>> I'm hoping that [clears throat] yes.

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» Okay.
If there's no further discussion, are

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you guys okay proceeding with the
resolution?

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So, uh, Colleen, I've used roll call
votes on resolutions. Do you have a list

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of counselors?
>> Yes.

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» Okay. Are you guys okay with the roll
call vote?

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» Thank you.
>> Councelor Ugarte, I move to approve

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resolution number 2370 authorizing the
city manager to apply for a state grant

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in support of the Glendville project.
>> Thank you. Councilman second. Councilman

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second. Thank you.
Council President DeForge.

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» Hi,
>> Councelor Yugarte.

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» Hi,
>> Councelor Lambert.

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» Hi,
>> Councelor Leon.

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» Hi,
>> Councelor Warren.

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» Hi.
[clears throat]

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» Thank you, Mayor Castle.
>> Okay. So, that concludes item number C.

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Now, we're going to go to item number,
which is action to select mayor for the

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city. There are two applicants, myself
and city purse. And since I have recused

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myself, I'm going to now turn it over to
our presiding officer for this action,

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councelor.

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» Thank you, Mark. Um just as a quick
overview of this process, um this

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process is defined in our charter
section 33 and the North Plains

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Municipal Code 3337.
Uh in that m municipal code 3337.

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Uh we may hold interviews, but it's not
required. However, we've all decided, of

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course, to interview uh both applicants.
Um the vacancy has to be posted in a

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newspaper, which it was. Uh the vacancy
uh is posted for two weeks which it was.

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There is not a tiebreaker vote. Um and
we all have a set of questions.

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Okay. Um as a presiding officer, is
there anyone here uh that on the council

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that wants to recluse themselves from
this process? And Mark walked away. He's

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holding his hand up over there. So um I
need to ask the council for a consensus

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vote for him to recluse himself from
this process. So uh just consensus say

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um I if you approve
>> I nay.

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» Okay. Uh that means there are now four
counselors and four votes. So if a tie

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occurs we need to go into deliberations
because there is no tiebreaker vote.

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Um, again the questions from the
counselors. Uh, I'm sorry. Any questions

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from the counselors before we begin the
interviews?

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» Um, yeah, councelor Russ and I I've got
uh a couple concerns on this actually.

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Um, given the information that was
submitted today, uh, with the recall,

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there still seems to be some questions.
Uh, I question whether or not that this

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is something that we should uh decide on
today or whether or not we should

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postpone this pending written legal
analysis from the city attorney on the

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recall petition status under the Oregon
statute 249.

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865 of the North Plains charter.

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» Any other comments? Anybody have a
comment around that?

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I I don't see a reason not to proceed.
Councelor Weber.

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» Thank you, Councelor Yugerte. That was
also a concern of mine. Um just given

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again the emails that we've received
today mentioning the recall. I also

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would be curious um if Emily is online
if we could potentially discuss um you

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know any negative outcomes if we
postpone this appointment process until

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the recall petition has been confirmed
and and gone from there.

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» Is Emily on the call?

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Emily or if there's anyone from from BEH
to represent legal counsel on this call,

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that would be great.
>> Mayor and members of the council, I did

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talk to the attorneys late this
afternoon

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and included in my quick note to you
what Emily's opinion is. Um I if if the

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the current

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mark if he were to be selected as mayor
that would render the recall

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uh move it it takes it away because he's
being recalled as a councilman and not

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as a mayor. So that would be the impact.
It is uh and Emily

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mentioned this too. This is a policy
choice that you all have to grapple with

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and make you either want to move forward
with this or you want to postpone action

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until the recall is done or some other
action that you may choose to do.

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Council Weber, my understanding from the
attorney, she did not tell us that she

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recommended that we should not take
action.

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» No, she did not. Okay.
Uh, councelor Rustin, but the email that

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you sent out, I think the words you used
was the city attorney suggests. Um, I

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would like to see a written legal
opinion, okay, from her.

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» Uh, I would also like to, you know, I
know that we received u the signatures.

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Uh, I think that that needs to be
validated before we, you know, to know

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that whether or not we even have a a
ballot recall.

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Councelor

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Warrington. Um, so were the signatures
submitted to the county or to whomever

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needs to uh validate the signatures at
10:00 this morning?

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» To be honest with you, Councilwoman, I I
do not know the status of the

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signatures. I only received the letter.
It would take some research for us to uh

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get the signatures and spend the time to
have it validated. Uh I talked to Bailey

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about this and suggested we work closely
with the county to make sure that it's

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done above board and open.
>> Okay. So, at this point, we don't know

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how many signatures are collected. They
we don't know if they've been submitted

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to the county. Uh we don't know if
they're all valid. Um but we we do have

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the attorney's advice that um there's no
risk for us to uh complete this process.

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Is that correct?
>> That would be my my interpretation

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[clears throat]
of what she is saying.

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» Okay. Then it is my opinion that we do
what the city attorney is suggesting and

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proceed with uh with this.
selection process.

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» Council Weber, I would agree.
Um, councelor Ugarth.

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» Thank you, Councelor Yuggart. And I do
want to remind this body um to please

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raise your hand, wait for the chair to
call on us um as part of our council

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rules. Um I will add in my own um
opinion that I think that we should

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postpone tonight's process. um given
that you know we as a council represent

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everyone in this community not one side
or the other and while we don't know all

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of the details and these signatures have
not been verified I think it's important

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that we pause to let that process move
forward and to gain more information

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before moving forward in tonight's
process um again we've heard time and

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time again from our community
transparency honesty Y those are all key

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things and I cannot in my in my own
approach I cannot feel that this is the

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right move to potentially consider
someone that's that's potentially being

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recalled um into a mayoral position. Um,
that just is not that's not part of the

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integrity that I I see. And I would I
would be in support of postponing

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tonight's
mayoral selection.

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» Council Rustin.
>> Yeah, Council Rustin. Um, yeah, I agree.

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just based on everything that came in
today. Um,

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like I said, I would like to see a
written opinion from the attorney, not

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just something that you know what they
you know suggests in the conversation.

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Um, I've explained my thoughts on just
the recall and I think that that needs

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to be uh, you know, validated before we
move forward and, um, I do think that,

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you know, I I I agree that um,
you know, we do need to take our time on

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this. you know, it's uh this is a
significant um decision that we're going

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to go ahead and make and I don't think
that it hurts for us to go ahead and

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make sure that we have gone through the
process. You know, there I think some

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valid concerns were raised today with
public comment. Uh I think if we go

425
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:56,079
through and give get the legal opinion
in writing if we validate the recall we

426
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:02,000
then have a firmer foundation to go
ahead and move forward whether that is

427
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:06,560
to uh select a merit before the recall
or uh wait till the recall happens. I

428
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:13,839
just don't feel comfortable at this
point making a decision.

429
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:17,359
» Okay. Uh councelor warrant here. Um so
it sounds like we have a stone

430
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:24,880
stalemate. uh two to two here to
proceed. So, um when that happens, I

431
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:31,119
think we uh take a um 10-minute recess
um reboot for a minute or two and um

432
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:36,160
maybe we can get PH on the call uh see
what they if they can talk to us about

433
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:41,280
this real time so we can get uh their
opinion. Uh Mr. Weber, council,

434
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:48,079
» a question. My understanding is we have
on the agenda to select the mayor. If a

435
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:52,880
majority of us decided to not select the
mayor, then we would not. My

436
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,040
understanding is if we had a two to two,
uh that means we would proceed because

437
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,800
there was not a majority to change
what's on the agenda.

438
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:04,400
» Oh,
>> but I don't know. You could

439
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:07,839
» I would Is that correct, Mr. City
Manager?

440
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,359
My recommendation was if it's two and
two that you not proceed.

441
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:19,839
» That's correct.
>> Yes. All right. So, um all in favor of

442
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:26,000
taking a uh 10-minute deliberation break
to see if we can get um BH on the line.

443
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,079
Um
all those in favor?

444
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:30,960
» Oh, I'm sorry.
>> Any discussion? Do we have discussion

445
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:37,599
first?
>> Yes. Uh, councelor Ugarte, I appreciate

446
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:42,000
um you suggesting the idea of a
10-minute break. However, again, I want

447
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:48,160
to be transparent to the community, and
I don't think that we need to have a

448
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:51,680
10-minute break to discuss this, right?
Because we should be discussing it right

449
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:55,760
here on the DAS in front of everyone.
Um, I do see Paul is looks like he's

450
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:02,480
probably uh trying to get someone from
BEH on online right now, but I think

451
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:07,119
overall this is the question at hand is
do we feel that this is the right

452
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:13,280
decision to move forward without knowing
all of the information on the recall and

453
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:18,880
knowing that we're dismissing part of
the public recall process. Um, and so I

454
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:23,760
think that's the really the question
here of do we want to just dismiss that

455
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:28,640
and move forward and and hope for the
best or do we want to do our due

456
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:34,400
diligence and pause, reconvene in two
weeks and move from there?

457
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:38,320
» Um, thank you councelor. Um, I did not
mean we were all going to have a secret

458
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:43,599
meeting um, and discuss of course
because that's colluding. uh but what I

459
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:49,359
am uh trying to establish here is to get
clarity on the issue through BEH. So

460
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:54,640
taking a maybe five minute break trying
to get BEH on the call so we can get

461
00:40:52,079 --> 00:41:00,560
clarity today so we don't have to push
this further.

462
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:04,720
» Yes, thank you. I I would question what
is the question we're looking for DEH to

463
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:11,839
answer specifically? Uh, councelor
Rustin has uh requested uh more clarity

464
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:19,760
on the process um uh and wants a
definitive decision from the attorney on

465
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:23,200
whether um we can proceed or it's just
suggested we proceed if I'm not

466
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,920
mistaken.
>> Um councelor Rustin that is one concern.

467
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:32,560
The other concern is I do think that we
need to know I think we need to have the

468
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:36,560
status of the recall. I do think that,
you know, from a process standpoint, we

469
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,839
do need to know if it's a valid recall
before we move forward on it.

470
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:43,920
» Yes, there are two things. So, I don't
know that there's anything that BEH is

471
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:48,319
going to say today that, you know, is
going to change my mind. We've been

472
00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:53,440
[clears throat] short staff since I
joined a couple months ago. I'll see how

473
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:58,520
putting this off for two weeks. Uh,
really is going to hurt anything.

474
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,440
We need order. There's no clapping from
the office. We're the voters. I know

475
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:13,359
you're the voters, but this is a city
council meeting and you don't get to

476
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:18,640
clap and and do that. So, thank you.
>> So, um I I understand uh what you're

477
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:25,280
saying. Um,
so I think that um

478
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:32,560
where it's still made again. Um,
city

479
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:35,359
um manager, are you aligned with um
are you trying to get a hold of this

480
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:40,079
city attorney?
>> I will. And I would suggest you probably

481
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:45,200
have to take the five minute break that
connection.

482
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:51,680
» Okay. Okay. So five minute break uh
starting now it's 7:43. So it's 7:48

483
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:51,680
we'll reconvene. Thank you.

484
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:01,400
No one can stop.

485
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:13,400
» Well,
understand this.

486
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:27,359
Can you hear me now?
>> Can you hear me now? Okay. I wanted to

487
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:31,839
let you know we did get Emily on the
call. She will be joining. When she

488
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:37,319
joins our Zoom call, we'll reconvene.
So, we might need a minute or two while

489
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,319
she joins the call.

490
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:10,960
Um, we're just going to continue the
meeting and when Emily joins then we'll

491
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:16,640
go back to Oh, look. I just had to say
that she joined.

492
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:21,280
Good. Uh, Emily, are you on call? Can
you unmute?

493
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:28,880
» Yes, I'm here. Awesome.
Thank you for joining the call abruptly.

494
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:33,200
I appreciate your timing. Um I am um
we're at a kind of a conundrum here. So

495
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:42,400
we're looking for some legal advice from
you. Um we are in the process of doing

496
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:46,640
the mayor selection process. Um, and
there's some questioning about should we

497
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:54,240
continue to do the mayor selection
process. Uh, while there is a pending

498
00:53:50,480 --> 00:54:00,640
recall on one of the counselors. Um, so
we've read your emails um, etc. It says

499
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:06,640
you um
uh your opinion I think is maybe the

500
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:10,800
word uh is that we can proceed but um
councelor Rustin and others have a

501
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:14,319
couple of questions if you don't mind
answering for them.

502
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,440
» Okay.
>> Of course

503
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:21,280
» I'll hand it over to councelor Rustin
then.

504
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:27,359
» Um Council Rustin, first off I don't
recall actually seeing a letter from

505
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:32,720
Emily on this. I saw
Paul's summary of it and

506
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,960
um I have to find it.
>> Could you use the microphone please?

507
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:39,520
It's really hard to hear. Thank you.
>> Okay. So, what I was saying is I don't

508
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:44,319
recall actually seeing a letter from
Emily on this with a with a written

509
00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:51,119
opinion on this. You know, I saw a
summary from a conversation that she had

510
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:56,079
with Paul that I'm not part of.
And what my request on that you know so

511
00:54:53,520 --> 00:55:03,680
it's two things I'm looking one is a
stated written opinion on um you know

512
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:08,559
just sorry I have this written down on
here uh on whether or not you know

513
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,440
whether or not we should be moving
forward on this. The other thing is, and

514
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:16,640
I don't think we're going to settle this
here, you know, if the recall

515
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:23,520
documentation was submitted, I think
that, you know, we have an obligation

516
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:26,720
to, you know, at least have it validated
before we make a decision moving

517
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,640
forward. And I don't think that that's
something, Emily, that you can

518
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:36,480
definitively answer on that. You know,
if I'm wrong, please uh correct me. But

519
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:41,359
I think that uh you know we owe it to
our constituents to validate those two

520
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:48,880
things before we move forward. Whether
that's you know uh voting on and putting

521
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:55,599
uh council orange in that position or uh
Cindy Hurst or whoever else you know may

522
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:58,720
be more appropriate. So
does that make sense what I'm looking

523
00:55:56,799 --> 00:56:04,480
for?
I think I understand and I think that I

524
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:11,119
have one answer essentially to respond
to both of your questions which is that

525
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:17,520
there is no legal need to stop the
appointment process at this point. the

526
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:25,680
council may proceed with appointing
someone to the mayoral vacancy

527
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:33,520
um even when one of those applicants is
someone counselor DeForge who has a

528
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:39,520
pending recall petition. The if the
council were to appoint councelor

529
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:44,720
DeForge to the mayoral vacancy, the
effect of that would be in order to

530
00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:50,799
accept the mayoral appointment,
councelor DeForge would need to resign

531
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:55,839
his council position. And the effect of
that would be to moot the recall

532
00:56:53,040 --> 00:57:03,520
petition which was for councelor
DeForge's position council position.

533
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:09,599
So that there is no legal reason to stop
at this point. That is a policy choice

534
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:15,200
for the council to make. It is up to you
whether you want to continue the

535
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:22,640
appointment
um and you know risk that effect.

536
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:27,680
Does that address both of your
questions?

537
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:31,119
» No, I understand that we can do it. Um I
think it's you know the second question

538
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:35,040
is that you know should we do it you
know this way I I personally think that

539
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:38,720
we need to take a little bit more time
think through you know for myself I I

540
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:43,760
need a little bit more time to think
through some of this stuff uh you know

541
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:47,359
just with the fact that we had the
documentation submitted that we did

542
00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:50,880
today you know I just think that that's
it's responsible to take a little bit of

543
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:56,400
time I don't think it's going to hurt
anything for us to take two more weeks

544
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,440
» you know because you know at any time we
can move forward with this regardless of

545
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:06,799
where we are in any kind of recall
process, can't we?

546
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:14,000
» So essentially the risk in not
appointing to fill a vacancy is very

547
00:58:09,359 --> 00:58:18,640
low. Um it is a duty within your charter
of the council to fill a vacancy. There

548
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:25,920
is no deadline.
Um, so you I mean I guess speaking

549
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:33,359
practically you have another vacancy
which I think will be up in 2 weeks as

550
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:39,520
well. Um, I know that council had talked
about keeping those processes separate

551
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:45,160
in order to avoid confusion, but um, it
seems like that could that's a

552
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,160
possibility.

553
00:58:52,559 --> 00:59:01,599
» Councelor Weber, uh, a question, Emily.
So explain how the process works if in

554
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:07,040
fact there are enough valid signatures
on this recall. Explain the timeline

555
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:12,000
kind of costs involved everything that
happens to actually my understanding it

556
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:16,000
then would have to go to a general vote
a separate some kind of vote. Could you

557
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:21,520
so could you explain kind of the
timeline and all those steps before it

558
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:29,119
might come to a conclusion?
Let me uh I can explain the next step

559
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:35,599
and then let me look up so that I know
and can explain. So the next step is if

560
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:42,000
it appears to the city that there are
enough

561
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:45,920
um signatures then the county verifies
those signatures.

562
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:50,000
Um
and

563
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:56,160
that's up to the county. I think that
the if I recall the deadline for the

564
00:59:53,200 --> 01:00:02,839
county is within I want to say 30 days.
I'm pulling it up right now um so I can

565
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,839
tell you more definitively.

566
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:13,760
» Emily, this is councelor Warrington. Do
you know if the signatures were even

567
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:17,119
submitted to the county?
>> You know,

568
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:20,720
» no, I uh I don't believe this. I believe
the city received the signatures today.

569
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:27,200
I don't believe they have been turned
over to the county yet. And the deadline

570
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:31,359
is the 30th day after submission or 120
days after the prospective recall

571
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:35,599
petition is filed, whichever is sooner.
And in this case, I'm almost positive

572
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:39,359
it's 30 days. So, the signature, the
county has 30 days to verify the

573
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:45,040
signatures
after the city uh provides them to the

574
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:50,000
county.
>> Thank you. So, what you're saying is

575
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:54,240
that this would in two weeks, if we
delay this for two weeks, we're going to

576
01:00:51,839 --> 01:01:01,920
be in the same position,
um, we would still have to wait for the

577
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:07,760
signatures to be valid. Um, and then if
they are, we would still be in the same

578
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:12,400
position until the vote in November to
do the recall if all that works. Is that

579
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:19,920
correct?
So the um recall is extremely unlikely

580
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:25,680
to be on the November ballot. It is very
likely to be a special election

581
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:32,160
um based on the timelines of ballot
printing uh and everything. So it is uh

582
01:01:29,839 --> 01:01:36,319
I I think
I don't I don't know the exact

583
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:40,960
timelines. I expect that county
elections is very busy right now with

584
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:47,680
the upcoming November election and so I
expect they would probably take most of

585
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:56,640
those 30 days and then um
the election the there's a resignation

586
01:01:51,280 --> 01:02:01,680
period five five days and then there's a
election no later than the 35th day

587
01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:08,640
after the last day for the public
officer to resign. So that is about 75

588
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:15,359
days from
did I do that math right? Uh 70 days

589
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:19,280
excuse me from when the city turns over
the

590
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:24,799
signatures for verification to the
county. And I think probably, like I

591
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:29,200
said, because of the timing of the of it
right now, it's likely that county

592
01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:32,599
elections will take most of those most
of that time.

593
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:39,640
» Thank you. Any other questions for um
Emily?

594
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:48,960
» Okay. Uh
>> a practical question. If we're split, uh

595
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:53,200
you know, on the agenda is choosing the
mayor. If we're split two to two on

596
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:58,559
whether to proceed,
what does that mean?

597
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:02,723
» So, um, it depends on what the motion
was. What was the motion?

598
01:03:00,703 --> 01:03:02,723
[clears throat]

599
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:10,880
» What was the question put to council?
>> We did. We This has come up during

600
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:14,559
discussion. We haven't made an official
motion [clears throat] yet.

601
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:19,039
We just were starting the mayor
selection process and came to kind of a

602
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:26,319
breaching halt because of discussions
before we even started it.

603
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:34,640
» So the the motion would be uh something
similar to um uh

604
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:42,160
um electing a or appointing a new mayor
to fill uh Aaron Dunrow's position.

605
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:47,839
» Point of order. My understanding is we
already have on the agenda to fill it.

606
01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:52,960
The potential the potential motion would
be to delay it that delay that for two

607
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:58,319
weeks, right?
>> No, that's not that's not our original

608
01:03:54,880 --> 01:04:03,520
motion. That's their that's another
motion. So the original one was for us

609
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:09,240
to appoint a mayor. The other one is to
take a two week break to delivery.

610
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,400
Does that make sense?

611
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,280
» Oh, I'm sorry.

612
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:26,799
» Hey, Emily, this is counselor. Um, I I
think the question we have here now that

613
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:31,440
we've learned a little bit more, we know
um that there's likely going to be that

614
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:37,119
full 30 days for the county elections
office to validate signatures for the

615
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:42,160
recall. I think my question um that I
specifically would ask is is there an

616
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:50,799
inherent risk of us postponing this
process for 30 days um until that

617
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:55,520
validation process has has gone through.
Um I think the other part you know is

618
01:04:52,720 --> 01:05:00,640
that we are all concerned because
there's four of us on the dis right now

619
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:04,400
and likely could be a stalemate. So, I
think that's the part where we're trying

620
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:12,640
to figure out plan A, plan B, and plan C
of can we wait 30 days potentially if

621
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:19,520
that's the consensus of council. And if
tonight we do come to a stalemate,

622
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:27,760
do we just postpone until a further date
or what would that look like?

623
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:36,319
So I would say that um like I said
earlier the risk in postponing

624
01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:42,400
temporarily is very low. Um it is a
duty of the council to fill vacancies

625
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:46,640
but there's no timeline. So the that's
pretty much all I can answer on the

626
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:58,400
risk. It's it's low but there's some
there. Um the it depends on as for a tie

627
01:05:53,680 --> 01:06:03,119
it depends on the situation. I think
that the

628
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:10,319
um
what I understood there is no um have

629
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:14,720
have you interviewed the candidates? Are
you proceeding? No. So the question, it

630
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:22,799
appears to me that the question before
the council is whether you intend to

631
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:29,119
postpone the mayoral appointment process
till a to a future meeting. And I don't

632
01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:33,680
um I don't know if you're talking about
two weeks if you want to talk about when

633
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:40,400
that is. The
>> councilor warranton I think you said 70

634
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:45,280
days until um the not 30 days but more
like 70 days before this might be

635
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:48,480
finalized. Is that is that what you were
saying?

636
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:54,000
» That's when the election would occur.
The actual recall election would occur

637
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:59,839
is around 70 days from now. The
signature verification process is the

638
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:04,559
next step. And once the city provides
the signatures to the county, then the

639
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:09,760
county has 30 days to verify the
signatures.

640
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:15,440
» So, council, go ahead. I was just going
to say, so we have a window of 30 to 70

641
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:22,240
days to get this complete for this to be
settled. 30 to 70 days. Councelor Yarte.

642
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:26,079
» Thank you. Uh, councelor Ugarte, I think
Emily, just the final question I have

643
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:31,440
for you is tonight, um, because it it
feels like we have kind of already taken

644
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:37,599
a stance before we've even deliberated
this full process. Um, so my question to

645
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:42,720
you is tonight, if we are a tie for
moving forward with this mural process,

646
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:48,079
how do we break that? How do we move
forward if we cannot agree to even move

647
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:54,880
forward to interview tonight?
So I understand that councelor DeForge

648
01:07:51,520 --> 01:08:01,039
is there and he has been excused by the
council from participating in this vote.

649
01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:07,440
So according to your code if this is
section 30.07

650
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:12,319
subb if any member declines to vote and
the result of such action would be to

651
01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:16,119
create a tie that member's vote shall be
counted as an I.

652
01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:23,600
And I councelor Ugarte, I just wanted to
clarify and if my memory serves me

653
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:28,880
correctly at our last council meeting,
we discussed this potential that

654
01:08:26,719 --> 01:08:34,640
councelor DeForge would not be eligible
for a tiebreaker vote, nor would

655
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:39,359
counselor Warrington um as the acting
um council member leading the meeting.

656
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:43,359
So
that was my understanding and feel free

657
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:47,440
to chime in, but there there really
isn't a tiebreaker. Um, so that's what

658
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:51,759
I'm trying to figure out of how do we
move forward because it's very likely

659
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:56,719
there will be a tie tonight and I feel
like there's only the option to

660
01:08:53,440 --> 01:09:06,239
postpone. But I wanted
>> Yeah, sorry to interrupt. Um that is

661
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:13,120
so the mayoral appointment is different
and that's where there's all these sort

662
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:18,960
of uncertainties where the in um the
code and charter it provides that the

663
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:24,880
mayor votes to break a tie but you have
a mayor vacancy so the mayor can't vote

664
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:30,159
to break a tie. This is this is separate
from that. This is not this is much more

665
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:34,159
simple
and this actually applies to this

666
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:38,960
situation because the we're not
appointing the mayor. So the members

667
01:09:36,719 --> 01:09:44,880
vote the me excused members vote shall
be counted as an I. So if I understand

668
01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:52,159
the question before the council to be
correct which is should we postpone the

669
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:56,320
appointment process the councelor
deforges

670
01:09:54,000 --> 01:10:01,760
exc as an excused member his vote shall
be counted as an I. So that means yes

671
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:09,199
his vote would be to postpone the
mayoral process to a future meeting

672
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:15,679
Russ. Yeah, sorry, Council Ros, but uh
every other topic on the agenda, we've

673
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:20,960
made a motion on that. We have yet to
make a motion one way or the other on

674
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:26,719
this. So, would it be a question as to
how the motion would uh be framed? And

675
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:31,520
if we are absolutely how
>> uh we would need a majority to pass a

676
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:35,120
motion to do this anyways. And there
it's going to come out two to two on

677
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:39,840
this. you know, if we motion to table
it, two of us are going to vote yes, two

678
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:45,360
of us are going to vote no. And at that
point, at that point, it becomes it

679
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:48,239
becomes uh uh we get in one of these
sort of catch two. I don't think we're

680
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:52,440
going to have enough votes just to even
pass a motion one way or the other.

681
01:10:52,960 --> 01:11:02,960
» A motion to vote or not to vote.
Councelor Warrington. Um,

682
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:06,120
should Mark DeForge be unreluced to be
the tiebreaker?

683
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:14,239
» There is. There is a tiebreaker in the
code. I

684
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:20,400
Your concern is
>> my concern is uh just what councelor

685
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:23,760
Rustin is saying. If we make a motion um
two, we're going to say we don't want to

686
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:29,600
postpone it and two we're going to say
we do want to postpone it. So we're

687
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:34,400
still stuck.
>> So who's going to be the time

688
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:40,480
» in that situation? The code provides
that the member who is excused, their

689
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:45,120
vote shall be counted as an I. So it
should be postponed.

690
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:48,880
» Okay. So again, how how you do the
motion?

691
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:52,080
» It should be postponed.
>> So

692
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:56,000
councelor Ugarte.
>> Councelor Yugarte. So, Emily, I really

693
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:01,520
appreciate you taking the time to join
us tonight for this last minute uh Zoom

694
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:06,320
call. I just want to make sure I'm
understanding correctly.

695
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:11,520
Um, hypothetically,
one of us could make a motion to

696
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:17,679
postpone the mayoral interview process
for 30 days, let's say. Um, and then it

697
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:21,280
would just require a second and then we
would also consider any other motions

698
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:25,040
and then we would be able to take a
vote, right? There's anything else we

699
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:30,719
need to consider to move forward in this
process?

700
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:34,080
» Not that I'm aware of. No.
>> So, oh, go ahead. Go ahead.

701
01:12:32,239 --> 01:12:36,960
» Yep. It's councelor Wart's.
>> Okay. Uh, councelor Russ and I move to

702
01:12:35,679 --> 01:12:42,679
postpone the vote on the mayor
appointment for 30 days.

703
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,679
» Councelor second

704
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:48,600
vote.
Hi.

705
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:55,920
» Nay.
>> I'm sorry. Wait. Wait. Sorry.

706
01:12:55,440 --> 01:13:00,080
» Say hi.
>> I'm so sorry. Councelor Negarte.

707
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:04,800
» I was hilarious.
>> I to postpone the mayoral process.

708
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:09,260
Sorry.
>> Too late.

709
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,260
» Yeah. I'm initially now. [laughter]

710
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:18,560
» Um, okay. So, it sounds like we're just
going to postpone this for 30 days and

711
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:24,159
give the opportunity for the recall to
work its way through and we'll come back

712
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:30,640
after that and try this again.
Is that correct? Um, all those in favor

713
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:35,120
of that, I think we all in favor. Okay.
So, I think that's what we're doing. So,

714
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:40,640
uh, now Mr. Ford is coming back to his
seat. we will be under the rules because

715
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:45,440
there is no more um
mayor process selection process. So

716
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:50,880
welcome back to meetings.
>> Thank you.

717
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,760
» Thank you Emily.
>> Okay.

718
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:56,960
» Okay.
>> You don't need me for anything else.

719
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,760
» Uh thank you Emily. I think you can
though I appreciate you very much. Thank

720
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,320
you.
>> Thank you.

721
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:11,920
» Thank you.
>> All in favor. Now moving to agenda item

722
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:18,159
E which was minutes that was added out
of the consent agenda. So I had

723
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:24,000
previously emailed uh city manager to I
think I identified a couple mistakes

724
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:31,280
minutes that uh councelor Warrington was
listed as a name vote on page six.

725
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:37,280
Council Warrington, I got three or four
that I had called Colleen. I verified

726
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:42,480
her just before the meeting. She has the
email. She'll correct those including

727
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:46,159
the names and other items. So, she is
aware of the updates and we'll take care

728
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:50,731
of those.
>> Perfect.

729
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:53,920
Thank you. Council
[clears throat]

730
01:14:50,800 --> 01:15:01,440
» Council, can you please clarify what the
corrections are to the minutes?

731
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:04,679
Um, yes. Let me get my phone. Thank you
for asking.

732
01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:15,280
I can go first. Uh,
councelor war if that's okay.

733
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:22,000
» Uhhuh.
>> Okay. I'm looking at page six

734
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:28,000
and this first sentence which is a
continuation of from page five. city

735
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:33,199
manager separation agreement says
councelor Warrington voted nay. I don't

736
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:39,040
think that was correct. That was that's
what I'm asking to have changed.

737
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:43,520
» So I have a complete list if it's okay.
>> So page three the staff presence uh Bill

738
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:48,719
Reed should be added to that because
Bill Reed was in that uh meeting. Uh

739
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:53,760
page five and six, city manager
separation agreement remove councelor

740
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:58,880
Warrington voting nay and add counselor
Ugarte voting nay. Um appointment of

741
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:05,600
acting city manager remove counselor
warrington voting nay, add counselor's

742
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:11,920
voting nay. Page eight, the finance
department monthly report. Remove a

743
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:17,280
representative and add bill read. Those
are the the four that I have.

744
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:24,360
One meeting.
>> That is the July July 15 minutes.

745
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,360
» Great.

746
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:33,520
» Was it June 15th?
>> Yes. I'm sorry. June. Yeah.

747
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:36,320
» Sorry. I saw June and July. Thank you,
>> Councelor.

748
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,840
» Thank you, Councelor. And thank you,
Councelor Warrington, for clarifying. I

749
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:46,080
also had a few overlapping, so I wanted
to make sure. Um on

750
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:50,719
that June 15, 2026
meeting notes for number seven

751
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:54,800
presentation from Umpqua Valley
Financial. Are you mentioning that the

752
01:16:53,679 --> 01:16:58,880
first sentence that says a
representative from Umpqua Valley

753
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,080
Financial be corrected to reflect Bill
Reed?

754
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:03,280
» Correct.
>> Yes.

755
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:06,800
» So Bill, how would how would that
sentence read? I just want to make sure

756
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:12,080
I remember in front of me, but instead
of a representative, that would be

757
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:19,239
removed and it would say Bill Reed
and then he uh represented Unplot.

758
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:28,000
So the sentence on number seven Aqua
Valley Financial would read instead of a

759
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:35,440
representative, it would read Bill Reed
from Uqua Valley Financial.

760
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:42,480
» No, he um No, I'm sorry. Uh
it would say Bill Reed represented

761
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:47,600
Home Enqua Financial and then from there
because he was the one speaking, not

762
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:53,440
anybody from HomeQua Financial.
>> Okay. And Gene Larson, we would redact

763
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:58,719
that part portion as well.
Uh I didn't see that. I know that Bill

764
01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:03,040
was doing the reporting out. Maybe there
was a question in there, but I do know

765
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:07,520
that Bill was the one who started the
conversation and reported out that

766
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:10,560
financial um information.
>> Okay. And I and I appreciate you

767
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:14,480
clarifying. I I don't want to beat a
dead horse, but I want to make sure I'm

768
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:19,120
understanding correctly. So the sentence
as presented in the agenda or in the

769
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:24,239
minutes states a representative from
Elqua Valley Financial in parenthesis

770
01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:29,520
Ash a partner appeared via Zoom
accompanied by Jean Larson who leads the

771
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:34,320
single audit area and so that's the the
exact sentence I want to clarify that

772
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:39,360
none of those those people listed should
be included in the minutes. Thank you

773
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:44,880
for the questions. Um, I carefully
watched this piece of the video several

774
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:50,960
times to see what happened. Um, and it
was Bill Reid who uh was a

775
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:55,280
representative for Umpqua and I don't
know who Ash is. I don't know what

776
01:18:52,400 --> 01:19:00,960
that's all about. Um, and appeared via
Zoom is not correct. Um, because they

777
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:07,600
weren't on the Zoom call because Bill
Reed was the person um representing them

778
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:10,320
in our council meeting.
Okay.

779
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:15,520
» So, um I think we need to take a minute.
Um I'll have to So, this is different

780
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:21,520
than what I edited. It came back
different. So, I'm going to have to look

781
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:28,000
at it again and rewrite it.
>> Request a rewrite

782
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:32,560
» because it came to me, I reviewed it, I
edited it, this is what I had, and this

783
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:36,719
is how it came back different than what
I requested. So, okay.

784
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:40,480
» Thank you. Thank you for clarifying
that. So, um, what I'm hearing is

785
01:19:38,719 --> 01:19:46,000
there's still some adjustments that
might need to be made given this new

786
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:51,120
information and and corrections. So, um,
Council President DeForge, I would be

787
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:56,960
curious if we could postpone approving
at least the June 15, 2026 minutes to a

788
01:19:54,560 --> 01:20:02,320
future meeting.
>> Is everyone okay with getting ourselves

789
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:07,440
some extra review time?
>> Agree. Yes.

790
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:14,800
» Okay. Thank you, Council Gart. We move
to the approval of the June July 6, 2026

791
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:19,640
minutes.
Was there any feedback provided to

792
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,640
Colleen?

793
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:27,520
» I did not have any issues with uh the
July 6th

794
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:31,159
edits.
>> I did not either.

795
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:36,480
» Councelor Yugarte.
>> Councelor Yugarte. A couple things I did

796
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:40,239
connect with Colleen. Um, just
mentioning it marked I was marked as

797
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:44,239
absent. I have previously spoken to
interimm city manager Rob and Dodie

798
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:49,679
during that time letting her know that I
would be gone. Um, so I would like that

799
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:55,120
corrected to say excused versus absent.
And then there were just a couple small

800
01:20:52,159 --> 01:21:00,719
spelling errors um, specifically under
public comment for the July 6, 2026

801
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:05,840
meeting minutes. Um it says public
comment section C talks about Butch

802
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:11,760
Kendall address the council. Um and
later in that that paragraph it says Mr.

803
01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:15,840
Kendall and it it just has a um his name
spelled incorrectly. So it should say

804
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:20,880
Mr. Kendall also noted that since North
Plains Incorporation

805
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:25,280
etc etc. So just want to update that to
reflect the correct spelling in the

806
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:31,600
minutes. Um and with that I will pass it
back on.

807
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:37,840
» Okay. any additional corrections or any
feedback to councelor's corrections? If

808
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:46,120
not, I would recommend that be listing
for a motion to approve the July 6, 2026

809
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,120
minutes as amended.

810
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:53,280
» Councelor Weber so moved.
>> Second.

811
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:58,239
» Second.
>> Councelor Warrington. Second.

812
01:21:55,840 --> 01:22:00,560
All those in favor of approving the July
6 minutes.

813
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,440
» I
>> I

814
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:10,400
» Any opposed?
Okay. Motion carries and we will um

815
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:16,800
continue the conversation on the June
15th, 2026 minutes to the next week.

816
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:22,639
We're going to move along to item eight,
which is old business. There is no item

817
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:27,600
there. So number nine, city manager
report. Thank you, mayor, members of

818
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:31,360
council. U my report is going to be
verbal this time because I didn't have

819
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:38,159
time to write one given everything else.
So, I hope you have patience with me. I

820
01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:45,280
did send you all a copy of a uh
information sheet that I received about

821
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:49,679
city improvements. Uh so, you have that
information.

822
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:54,560
Uh I also sent you a copy of Ross's
final report and recommendations. You

823
01:22:52,480 --> 01:23:02,639
may want to put that on a future agenda
and consider those. I'll be meeting with

824
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:07,600
uh the city recorder on Thursday to talk
about or phasing back in to the work and

825
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,600
that'll take a lot of pressure off some
folks.

826
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:22,639
Uh on Wednesday morning, um Brianna and
Bailey and I are meeting with Theres to

827
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:30,400
close out her contract, which will
include doing one final newsletter. That

828
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:35,679
will be the end of her work here.
I'll be calling you all, if I haven't

829
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:39,800
already, to schedule the interviews uh
with with you council members.

830
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:48,480
and we'll be interviewing three
finalists for the program and community

831
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:53,760
communication supervisor position. There
were five. They've been boiled down to

832
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:58,080
three and I'm setting those up for next
week so we can get that position moving

833
01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:04,239
forward.
And I'm meeting Wednesday at 1 on the uh

834
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:11,360
clean water contract to get that moving.
That needs to come forward to you. Uh

835
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:15,520
and that concludes my report for today.
Thank you, sir. Are there any comments

836
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:19,280
for
from city manager?

837
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:24,400
» Councelor Weber, what will be the
process? The three applications for the

838
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:27,600
new position. Will you bring
three to us or one to us or what will be

839
01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:33,040
the process?
>> We will bring one for recommended hire.

840
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:37,600
Okay.
>> Councelor Ugarte.

841
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:44,000
Thank you, councelor Yugarte. Um, I
wanted to ask a little bit more about

842
01:24:40,719 --> 01:24:48,560
the city contract ending with PR for
theres and what does that look like

843
01:24:46,239 --> 01:24:54,000
after that contract is ended or do we
have someone else lined up or what is

844
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:59,280
the plan going forward for PR?
>> Good question. And I think the plan is

845
01:24:56,639 --> 01:25:05,199
that you're the new position
of of programs and communication

846
01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:12,920
supervisor would pick up some of those
elements plus some recreation and some

847
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,920
other council directed activities.

848
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:22,080
» And so for the timeline of someone being
in that position versus the contract

849
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:28,159
ending with the Ling, what does that
look like? Is there going to be

850
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:35,520
continuity? Is there a gap?
>> My my hope is it will be positive and

851
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:41,199
the new person will pick up in early
October.

852
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:46,639
Theres has been notified by the city of
that her contract terminates on the 30th

853
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:51,440
of September.
So that we may see some void in there

854
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:56,400
for a while.
But I'm hoping that we don't have that.

855
01:25:53,280 --> 01:26:01,360
But again, the reality is we could very
well have a week or two where there is

856
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:07,120
nobody covering that base.
>> Okay. And what's the contingency plan if

857
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:11,840
there is a gap?
>> Good question. I have none at this time.

858
01:26:09,440 --> 01:26:16,800
And I and I just asked that because we
um unfortunately have made many

859
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:22,000
headlines across
the local news and I think it's really

860
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:27,920
important that we continue to be mindful
of the narrative that is is being

861
01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:34,320
broadcast um from this this council's
actions and from our city as well. So um

862
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:38,960
I respect the process and and understand
that we need time to appoint someone for

863
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:43,120
that new position. However, I would be
curious if we

864
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:47,280
had something where we did a weekby-
week extension of a contract until we

865
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:52,560
have someone solidified into that
position. Again, um the narrative for

866
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:57,440
the this community is very important and
especially as we are trying to attract

867
01:26:54,400 --> 01:27:03,520
talent to city staff. Um I want to be
mindful that we are not relying on um

868
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:08,159
people on Facebook controlling the
narrative for us, but instead have a

869
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:13,520
voice for the city. Good, good point.
Let me let me analyze that and study it

870
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:19,280
and get you a report back to let you
know what our options are. I see at

871
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:26,000
least a couple one would be a a couple
week void if we have the void what staff

872
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:32,960
members will cover those bases. If we
can extend the for a week or two if

873
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:36,080
she's even willing u that would be an
option but let me do that and get it to

874
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:40,000
you.
>> Okay. Thank you.

875
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:44,360
» Thank you.
>> Thank you, council. Any other comments?

876
01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:56,480
Yes, sir. Mayor, if I may put one other
point out here, and I've done this in my

877
01:27:53,120 --> 01:28:03,920
daily status reports. I I am just
absolutely amazed at the amount of work

878
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:11,360
that is being done by your staff. You
have about as short a staff city as I

879
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:15,920
have ever run into in my 110 years of
doing school.

880
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:21,760
But but it is amazing and I would
suggest that any time you get a chance

881
01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:26,320
to compliment your staff do so because
they are really under pressure and some

882
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:31,280
of them are getting more pressure now
that I'm here uh throwing more

883
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:36,159
responsibilities on them and they're
just soaking it up and they're

884
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:41,080
delivering at a high level.
>> Very nice. Thank you, sir. We appreciate

885
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,080
our staff.

886
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:50,960
Anything else before I move on to the
next agenda item?

887
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:56,480
» Going to move to council comments 10,
which is council reports.

888
01:28:54,080 --> 01:29:01,586
Um, councelor Rustin, do you mind if I
start with you? You come on down.

889
01:28:58,639 --> 01:29:06,639
» Um, yeah, that's fine. U,
[clears throat] so I last meeting I've

890
01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:12,159
not had any expio
uh obligations, but I will be attending

891
01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:15,760
the library board meeting next week. Uh,
one thing that I am concerned about as

892
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:21,199
I've gone through the calendar is just
the number of boards and committees that

893
01:29:17,679 --> 01:29:27,920
have uh, canceled meetings. Uh and what
I would like to get on the agenda is for

894
01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:32,880
you the EDC uh library you know all of
them in front uh the council to give an

895
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:37,612
update on when their last meeting was
what their primary objectives are

896
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:41,840
roadblocks that they have
[clears throat] uh and assistance that

897
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:46,000
they need from the council to move
forward. Uh, I'm just concerned that,

898
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:51,840
you know, we're seeing stalls in, as far
as I can tell, every board committee

899
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:55,520
with the exception of the library and
maybe public works.

900
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:58,960
» Well, would you like to address that? I
know we've got the planning commission

901
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:05,520
is scheduled for tomorrow, right?
>> Yes. And I'm in discussions with Patty

902
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:11,040
for the uh Rick Parks board meeting
coming up in a couple of weeks. But I

903
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:18,320
think that's a good comment. just let
let me let us do some analysis and and

904
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:21,679
come up with a plan to properly
service those committees and get that

905
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:25,600
moving forward.
>> Yeah, I I appreciate that and it doesn't

906
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:29,120
necessarily need to all happen once at
once, but I would like to see us move

907
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:31,520
forward.
>> Okay. Thank you, sir. Does that address

908
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,639
your concern?
>> That is. Yeah. Thank you.

909
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:38,600
» Anything else you'd like to comment?
>> No, I think I've done it enough today.

910
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:51,199
Great. Thank you. Um I would like to add
an agenda item um a high priority one um

911
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:58,800
for the next meeting if possible. Uh we
all uh the whole city is behind a data

912
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:05,040
center ban. We have a ordinance number
501 that Emily Waldron uh wrote up for

913
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:11,199
us as a draft. Um, I think we would like
I would like to have a agenda item that

914
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:17,040
we can review that uh and see if there
are next steps or what we need to do to

915
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:20,239
um further the data center ban in our
city.

916
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:23,440
» Thank you, councelor.
>> Um, not done.

917
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:28,320
» I apologize. [laughter]
>> Um, also the Jesse Mays uh thing, I know

918
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:35,199
there are two sections around that. Uh,
I know that uh Mr. Paul Cook is working

919
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:41,360
on the pitcher itself. Um, and we need
to also have an agenda item around this

920
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:46,560
drinking fountain um plaque. So, I'd
like to add that to some agenda items

921
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:53,600
soon. Um, and the audit results for
2122. The last time we talked about

922
01:31:49,600 --> 01:32:01,600
those um there was additional details or
more in depth that we wanted um provided

923
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:05,520
to us. Have we gotten those details um
from is it?

924
01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:09,600
» I believe it was Marina that
>> Marina. Thank you. Get those additional

925
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:13,600
details that you asked for.
>> Uh yes, I believe that that was

926
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:16,000
complete. I can provide a copy.
>> That would be great. Thank you. That's

927
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:19,679
all I have.
>> Okay. So, let me just pause a second

928
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:25,280
here because you brought up some some
items I wanted to check with the team.

929
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:31,679
So, uh data center ban as a future
agenda item. Is there council consensus

930
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:34,679
that you would like to discuss this?
>> Yes.

931
01:32:35,440 --> 01:32:43,679
» Okay. Councelor Weber, if it were
possible, it would also for me be

932
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:47,840
helpful to have Emily, legal counsel,
>> look over the document and see if there

933
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:53,040
are any legal issues that
>> Yeah, I think my suggestion for next

934
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:59,600
steps would be now that Paul has an
agenda item for us, he would think about

935
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:04,560
how to maybe bring us options and I can
share with you what a citizen prepared a

936
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:09,120
document and has a starting point and we
can have a conversation. so that when

937
01:33:06,719 --> 01:33:14,880
the next council meeting happens, we can
address councelor Warrington's

938
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:19,920
suggestion. You also uh suggested Jesse
May's picture. I believe we have um

939
01:33:18,239 --> 01:33:26,719
talked about that before and everyone's
on board with that. Um I think Ross left

940
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:30,639
it as public works department was going
to be responsible for hanging it and we

941
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,440
we just need to get that across the
finish line. Is that right?

942
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:38,320
» I believe that is correct. We need to
know where to hang it and then ask them

943
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:42,320
to hang it. So, just a quick agenda item
to discuss that and finalize.

944
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:45,840
» Is it is it an agenda item or is it
you're asking the the public works

945
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:49,840
department to hang the picture?
>> Where are we going to hang it? I mean,

946
01:33:47,679 --> 01:33:54,080
it was under the TV. Is that where we
want to hang it?

947
01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:59,199
» So, how about uh can you come back to
the council and tell us what public

948
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:04,480
works feedback is on how to hang that
picture? Is that would that address your

949
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:10,800
concern council or you want you want to
go ahead? Yeah, sir. When I discussed it

950
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:15,920
with Patty today at chamber lunchon, she
indicated that they felt it was the role

951
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:21,360
of the park committee to review the
situation and come forward to council

952
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:26,080
with recommendations about where to hang
it, how to do the plaque and all of

953
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:31,199
those pieces.
Councelor Warrington, there's two

954
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:36,320
separate things and uh the hanging the
picture is one. Yeah. And that was going

955
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:41,440
to be in the in this room, I thought.
And the other one is the plaque above

956
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:45,440
the um fountain.
>> And maybe that's the parks and wreck

957
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:51,199
thing, but the other one is the framed
picture that was just going to be home.

958
01:34:48,719 --> 01:34:57,920
» So, well, can we break this into two
separate issues? So, the first one is

959
01:34:54,159 --> 01:35:03,120
the picture. So Ross's feedback before
was public works own that if you would

960
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:08,239
like to take Paul a different position
and how about how about think about it

961
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:12,560
analyze it and come back to us with a
recommendation. I think everyone's

962
01:35:09,679 --> 01:35:16,080
aligned that we want to honor Jesse Mays
and we would like

963
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:20,239
» we'd like somehow to to make that
happen. So, if you could think about a

964
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:23,440
way that would address councelor
Warrington's concern.

965
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:26,560
» I don't think there's any doubt that
public works will have to do the hang.

966
01:35:25,679 --> 01:35:31,360
» Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. Does that address your first

967
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:35,679
concern on the picture? Okay. Thank you.
Now, to the drinking fountain and this

968
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:40,719
is followup to the public comment that I
believe was Meredith made. So, it looks

969
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:47,040
like we would like to get a plaque. I
think Meredith said $500. And if we

970
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:53,360
could, since Elmer is 100 years old, if
we could we could make that happen, I

971
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:55,679
think that would be great. Is that
>> is that okay with you there, Paul?

972
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:59,360
» Yes.
>> Thank you, sir. Every is that okay with

973
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:05,199
everyone else?
>> Okay. And Okay, I'll take an action item

974
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:09,120
on audit results.
Okay.

975
01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:13,679
Councelor Weber.
>> Councelor Weber. Uh I'm not sure the

976
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:18,320
best way to do this. I would ask for
some sort of council perhaps work

977
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:25,679
session would be the best way to do it
before the next meeting to discuss where

978
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:30,320
we are with the TGM uh the UGB process.
Uh that has not been doing much for

979
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:34,719
several months. Uh one suggestion would
be to see if we could invite I'm not

980
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:39,760
sure his full name but Glenn works with
ODOT who are the people that are uh

981
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:46,719
involved in that whole process. if
perhaps he would join us uh at a work

982
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:50,480
session to discuss what our options are
uh going forward.

983
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:52,719
» So Paul, did you get a briefing on our
TGM project? Are you familiar?

984
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:56,880
» I have that.
>> Okay, I can I can bring you up to speed

985
01:36:54,880 --> 01:37:02,639
on that. But basically, we have a
planning process through ODOT and uh we

986
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:06,960
need to
continue on our next steps. So let me

987
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:13,360
just check around the room here. Is
adding the TGM

988
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:19,600
checkin or update or decision point to a
future agenda that be something you guys

989
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:21,920
are consistent with. I'll start over
here. Council West, you okay with that?

990
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:25,600
Warrington?
>> Yeah.

991
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:32,000
» Okay. Okay. Looks like there's consensus
that we would like to discuss TGM

992
01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:38,080
project. Okay. Council Weber, go ahead.
>> A couple meetings uh I attended. I am

993
01:37:34,639 --> 01:37:44,400
involved in the MAC Metropolitan Area
Communication Council and I will be

994
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:48,960
working uh with Paul. Uh we have a
10-year Comcast agreement that they

995
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:53,600
would like our resolution that we would
approve at the next meeting. I think

996
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:59,840
there's 15 different municipalities that
are part of this Comcast agreement. Uh

997
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:05,280
we don't get a huge financial
uh from that. I think it's around maybe

998
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:09,199
15 to 17,000 but it's something we are
all a part of have been a part of this

999
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:13,920
for a long time this Comcast agreement
and we need to do a resolution so I will

1000
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:19,760
work with Paul to bring that before the
group and then the group can decide. Uh

1001
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:24,480
I've also been working with MAC a bit
just uh trying to create a good

1002
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:29,920
relationship with them. Uh unfortunately
when I first uh joined the MAC uh there

1003
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:34,560
was a problem with a grant that they had
given us that was going to be used at

1004
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:39,760
the Kindle Center and uh $30,000 of the
grant was never used. Uh so they uh

1005
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:44,960
responded that the city would need to
repay the unused portion and uh I'm not

1006
01:38:42,719 --> 01:38:49,199
sure the whole reason but there was a
six-month delay when that money was not

1007
01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:56,719
refunded when they had requested to be
refunded. Uh fortunately um myself and

1008
01:38:54,719 --> 01:39:03,840
others were involved and that was worked
out. The money about a month ago was

1009
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:09,440
given back to MAC which was good. Uh I
also met with the um talked to the new

1010
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:16,000
director of MAC about one of the
priorities have been to get a better

1011
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:23,440
sound system, TV, all that in this room.
and he corresponded to me that in 2025

1012
01:39:20,719 --> 01:39:30,080
he had come to this building met with
Bill Reid uh staff and brought an expert

1013
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:36,000
on board and they are open the funding
at that time it was the $ 15 to $20,000

1014
01:39:32,719 --> 01:39:40,320
upgrade grant that they were open to uh
helping us with through MAC. Uh

1015
01:39:38,639 --> 01:39:46,000
unfortunately, I don't know the whole
reason for it, but he said they went

1016
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:52,080
back and forth several times, but uh for
some reason in March uh March, April,

1017
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:57,440
May, June, the city for some reason was
not responding back to requests from

1018
01:39:54,080 --> 01:40:03,199
MAC. And at that point, MAC uh the grant
process timeline ran out. So that money

1019
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:08,400
went away. Uh but he is open to us
reapplying for uh future funds. So we

1020
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:16,880
will be working on that.
I also attended a uh EPA and Brownfield

1021
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:24,480
uh meeting on the 5acre uh Glenco
property cleanup. Uh Ross was at that

1022
01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:29,920
meeting. Also, Tom Bolt, our um lobbyist
was there. Uh it was a very impressive

1023
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:34,960
meeting. The representative from the EPA
was there and we had an excellent

1024
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:40,320
discussion on the brownfield uh cleanup.
Uh the part that was a little surprising

1025
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:44,000
to me uh at one point she said, "I'm
just here to kind of clarify if you

1026
01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:48,560
still
uh are hoping to get the million dollars

1027
01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:52,480
because we have not received any of your
paperwork." The agreement uh the way the

1028
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:55,920
grant works is you're given the grant,
but then there's a whole agreement

1029
01:40:53,760 --> 01:41:02,480
process that needs to take place. And
for some reason in this uh last 15-month

1030
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:08,719
period uh the city had not completed
that documentation had not given it to

1031
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:14,960
the EPA. Uh the EPA was very cordial
about it but was surprised that the city

1032
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:20,719
had not responded with what was needed.
Uh they said that was very unusual uh

1033
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:26,000
that a city would wait that long to
basically get the money. So, the good

1034
01:41:22,639 --> 01:41:30,560
news is that is moving at this point.
Ross has worked on it. Tom Bolt is

1035
01:41:28,239 --> 01:41:35,520
involved. I think they've come to you.
Bailey, I think, is working on some of

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01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:39,760
the paperwork. And um uh the good news
is I think that's uh the key is not so

1037
01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:45,040
much looking back, but the forward
motion now is working where we will be

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01:41:42,719 --> 01:41:50,960
able to uh secure those funds it looks
like and then hopefully additional money

1039
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:57,000
for the house re house removals.
That is the end of the year. Thank you,

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01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:57,000
sir. Council,

1041
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:09,520
» thank you, councelor Ugarte. Um, again,
no exeicio duties. Um, I want to echo

1042
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:13,360
councelor Rustin's statement regarding
trying to establish our boards and

1043
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:18,480
committees back into their regular
cadence and meetings. So, thank you to

1044
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:24,400
Paul for already being proactive. Um, I
think my my question is for Paul. Is

1045
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:29,119
there anything you need from council to
help support getting move meetings back

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01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:35,119
into the regular schedule
for other boards of commissions?

1047
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:41,040
» Right. I'll let you let you know. Okay.
>> Okay. Um, the other um topic I wanted to

1048
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:43,840
mention and I I would like everyone to
refrain their pitch works for just a

1049
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:51,440
second, but I was going to say data
center. I know that's a hot topic. Um

1050
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:57,679
but I while I support us exploring an
option for data center ban, I would say

1051
01:42:55,280 --> 01:43:03,679
that we have other topics that are of a
higher priority and more timesensitive

1052
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:08,639
um than spending time on a data center
van. Right now we need to get our city

1053
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:14,159
into a functional state with just staff
in general. um getting our boards and

1054
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:18,480
commissions back into place and to spend
time on a data center van when we don't

1055
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:23,760
even have enough buildable inventory for
anything in the city close to a data

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01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:28,880
center. Um it just feels like this is
this could be a waste of time at this

1057
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:32,560
point. I do think it is important. I do
not personally want data centers of

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01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:36,159
North Plains, but I think that we have
other priorities, especially given some

1059
01:43:34,480 --> 01:43:42,719
of the feedback that we've received from
previous interimm city manager on some

1060
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:48,400
data points and areas of opportunity. I
would really encourage this council to

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01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:54,320
consider postponing dis discussion for
data center and to really highlight a

1062
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:59,440
work session andor agenda topic for some
of those points that Ross had previously

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01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:04,960
left for us as a council. And I know
Paul had also echoed that that that is

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01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:11,040
um a priority. I was just curious what
everyone's thoughts are. Are we I know

1065
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:15,280
time is finite, but are we leaning
towards wanting to spend time with the

1066
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:20,560
next meeting for data center ban or are
we wanting to potentially table that for

1067
01:44:18,239 --> 01:44:25,679
a future topic once the city is
stabilized

1068
01:44:22,239 --> 01:44:30,159
and we instead we can focus on really
the the task at hand of stabilizing our

1069
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:35,280
city given the feedback we have.
>> Council Council Rustin, I don't think

1070
01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:39,440
that uh there's any reason to postpone
it. I think we can address the other

1071
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:42,880
things and at least entertain a
conversation. You know, us having a

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01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:46,400
conversation does not prevent us from
doing anything else. Okay.

1073
01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:51,199
» Warrington.
>> Councelor Warrington. Um I think a a

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01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:56,239
discussion is in order. I don't think we
need to spend hours upon hours on

1075
01:44:53,360 --> 01:45:00,320
discussing it, but at least start uh the
conversation to see where it might lead

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01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:06,719
us is a good idea.
>> Thank you, Councelor Weber. I would also

1077
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:11,679
move forward with the conversation.
I'll I'll also support

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01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:17,840
the effort to have the discussion.
>> Okay, no problem. Um, couple other

1079
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:22,880
things I wanted to uh mention. Um, just
again, huge thanks to the community for

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01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:26,639
coming out. Um, just really giving your
support and and letting us know how you

1081
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:32,000
feel and what you want. So, I just want
to say thank you um to everyone online,

1082
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:36,400
to everyone here in person. um just
thank you. It's really important to show

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01:45:33,679 --> 01:45:41,360
up. So, thank you for that. Um I also
wanted to remind council um I've noticed

1084
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:45,440
that there have been several emails
amongst the council that is replying all

1085
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:51,040
and I want to remind everyone of the
serial communications law. We should not

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01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:57,600
be hitting reply all as counselors
to any communication amongst council.

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01:45:54,639 --> 01:46:01,440
So, I just want to remind everyone, the
other thing I wanted to remind this

1088
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:06,800
council of are Robert's rules. Part of
our council rules is that we need to

1089
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:13,199
make a gesture for the chair to call on
us and say, "Councelor Warrington,

1090
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:17,920
counselor Rustin, um because there have
been several times tonight that I have

1091
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:22,800
raised my hand and someone another
council member has spoken over me um

1092
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:27,199
without following Robert's rules." So
again, I know we're all learning. Um

1093
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:31,600
this is a new process for for most, but
I just want to really make sure that we

1094
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:38,159
are following the agenda um and the
rules at hand with us. So um that being

1095
01:46:34,639 --> 01:46:44,639
said, I the last thing I wanted to cover
are just our exeicio duties and try to

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01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:48,560
get a clear picture of what meetings are
occurring within the city this this

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01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:52,239
month.
And that might be a question for Paul,

1098
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:56,880
that might be
a question at the next meeting, but I'm

1099
01:46:54,960 --> 01:47:01,119
just curious what meetings we should
plan on holding for the month of

1100
01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:04,119
September for our boards and
commissions.

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01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:13,760
Thank you, counselor. Um, my quick
update is um I will be attending the

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01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:20,560
planning commission meeting as exopicio
tomorrow. Um, I've been attending Metro

1103
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:25,920
Policy Advisory Committee. They didn't
have a meeting in August meeting in

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01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:30,480
July. Um,
and I think that is it for me.

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01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:34,159
Councelor,
>> thank you. So, back to my previous

1106
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:38,000
question, what what meetings are
occurring this month? Can we trust

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01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:43,199
what's in the packet that the parks and
recck board will be occurring on

1108
01:47:39,679 --> 01:47:47,360
September 14th? Yes or no?
>> To the best of my knowledge, no date has

1109
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:52,320
been set.
the chairperson for the committee will

1110
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:56,639
be out of town till next week. We agreed
to get together and put together an

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01:47:54,080 --> 01:48:01,679
agenda and a meeting day or two.
>> Okay. So, the 914 parks and recck board

1112
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:06,480
is still TBD.
Is that is that correct?

1113
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:09,920
» Could happen. I I don't know how fast
that she's going to want to

1114
01:48:09,199 --> 01:48:13,600
council. Uh
>> council ran according to the North

1115
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:17,760
Plains calendar, the four the meeting on
the 14th is listed as being cancelled

1116
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:22,560
for parks and wreck.
which was part of my you know sorry

1117
01:48:20,239 --> 01:48:25,280
because I'm seeing a lot of those on the
calendar.

1118
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:28,800
» Thank you sir. Council
>> thank you and I think that's the the

1119
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:32,880
disconnect right now is as you know
staff is doing their very best and

1120
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:38,639
there's a lot of moving pieces that have
to get updated and you know looking at

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01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:42,000
the the calendar said it's cancelled but
looking at our agenda packet that was

1122
01:48:40,159 --> 01:48:47,600
just recently provided it says that
they're all of the meetings are

1123
01:48:43,679 --> 01:48:52,000
occurring. So, I don't want to peacemeal
this and I know again staffing is is at

1124
01:48:50,159 --> 01:48:56,480
a critical level, but we need to have
direction and we need to know are these

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01:48:54,000 --> 01:49:01,760
meetings happening in the next 3 weeks.
I don't think that's too much to ask.

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01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:06,159
Um, so if if this is a decision of we're
going to cancel the parks and recck

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01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:11,360
meeting for 9:14 and try again in
October once we have a clear picture,

1128
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:16,719
maybe that's more definitive. I feel
like we are running the city day by day

1129
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:22,800
and we are getting notices of special
meetings that are out of cadence that

1130
01:49:20,159 --> 01:49:26,960
are not being properly communicated and
everything is is discombobulated for

1131
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:29,920
lack of a better term.
>> I think those are good points. Let let

1132
01:49:28,639 --> 01:49:34,000
me get back with you with a
comprehensive report to bring all of

1133
01:49:32,719 --> 01:49:37,440
that up to.
>> Okay. So, thank you and I appreciate it.

1134
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:41,679
And again, I know you're just walking in
and and again, everyone is doing the

1135
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:44,960
best they can, but I think as a city
again, it's really important that we're

1136
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:48,560
communicating and there's a big
disconnect right now. That's again why

1137
01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:55,040
I'm concerned about PR. The other
question I had, um, planning commission,

1138
01:49:50,960 --> 01:50:00,239
we are good to go for the library board
916 meeting. Is that planned in progress

1139
01:49:58,639 --> 01:50:06,000
or is that canled?
>> As far as I know, it is on.

1140
01:50:02,159 --> 01:50:10,239
» Okay, perfect. Thank you. And then um
just the only other thing I wanted to

1141
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:16,480
touch on is for the Washington County
Coordinating Committee. I know that that

1142
01:50:12,719 --> 01:50:21,360
typically has been um just mayors that
are able to attend. Is that something

1143
01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:25,040
within your scope? I know you have a lot
on your plate, but do you have capacity

1144
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:28,639
to attend that so that we still have
representation for North Plains?

1145
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:32,000
» What's the date?
>> Uh it's the second Monday of every

1146
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:36,159
month. So it looks like it'll be Monday
the 14th.

1147
01:50:34,239 --> 01:50:39,520
at noon.
And this is this is the very last page

1148
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:42,920
in our packet if you need to reference
it later on.

1149
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:50,800
» Let me take a look at at that function
and my calendar. See if I can do that.

1150
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:54,159
» Okay. Thank you,
>> Council Rustin.

1151
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:58,560
» Yeah, sorry. Council Russ, uh, one more
thing just I was looking at the, uh,

1152
01:50:56,320 --> 01:51:03,280
calendar. We don't have any URA meetings
scheduled for next. We're on discuss

1153
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:08,920
that.
>> Okay. Get those back on the calendar.

1154
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:08,920
Okay. Yeah. Good point.

1155
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:19,520
» Okay. I think we we kind of transitioned
into uh 10B which is review September

1156
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:23,480
2026 council calendar. So is there any
other comments on the calendar?

1157
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:32,960
Okay.
So I am going to adjourn the meeting.

1158
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:38,800
» Council Warington, I have one one last
comment. I'm sorry. During our meeting

1159
01:51:35,199 --> 01:51:44,400
today, I requested the audience not to
um clap or make noises. Okay. And I

1160
01:51:41,679 --> 01:51:50,560
think that we need to revisit the uh
rules of disruption to the council

1161
01:51:47,599 --> 01:51:55,199
meeting. Um I know that Hillsboro allows
people to snap um so it isn't as

1162
01:51:52,800 --> 01:52:01,199
disruptive. Uh, I know that, you know,
there's obviously emotions going on here

1163
01:51:57,440 --> 01:52:07,119
and we want to, uh, let people express
themselves, but we don't also want to

1164
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:12,960
be, um, disrupted. So, maybe we can call
that up or um, the next comments or

1165
01:52:10,719 --> 01:52:19,520
something on how the audience can
participate in uh, their emotions

1166
01:52:16,159 --> 01:52:24,960
without disrupting the council.
>> Okay.

1167
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,960
» Thank you.

1168
01:52:27,119 --> 01:52:32,599
There are any other comments before I
adjourn the meeting?

1169
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:42,760
» Okay. So, the city council meeting is
going to be adjourned at only 53 p.m.

1170
01:52:38,239 --> 01:52:42,760
» Thank you. Thank you.

1171
01:52:46,159 --> 01:52:49,320
» Thank you.

1172
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:55,080
for you for
me.