1 00:00:13,629 --> 00:00:15,231 >> don't 2 00:00:15,231 --> 00:00:18,831 >> really city we read and a 3 00:00:21,871 --> 00:00:24,871 good today is wednesday JULY 4 00:00:25,541 --> 00:00:26,208 26 is finals ago. We're at the 5 00:00:26,208 --> 00:00:26,809 city chambers and I call a 6 00:00:26,809 --> 00:00:28,809 city commission special 7 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:32,448 meeting to order. 8 00:00:32,448 --> 00:00:34,448 Commissioners smiler emerged 9 00:00:35,500 --> 00:00:35,618 vice mayor like commissioner 10 00:00:35,618 --> 00:00:38,618 petro there is a core 11 00:00:38,988 --> 00:00:39,955 PRESIDENT For this made. Also 12 00:00:39,955 --> 00:00:40,656 part our city manager 13 00:00:40,656 --> 00:00:43,656 pleasures of the attorney for 14 00:00:43,926 --> 00:00:44,560 leno city clerk falls we've 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,560 got police and fire chief 16 00:00:49,898 --> 00:00:51,267 titus in the back. I'm 17 00:00:51,267 --> 00:00:51,934 requesting participants and 18 00:00:51,934 --> 00:00:54,934 staff maintain were in the 19 00:00:55,971 --> 00:00:58,240 throughout this meeting, city 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,240 commission policy 2021 0, 3, 21 00:01:01,944 --> 00:01:03,780 states attend the show been 22 00:01:03,780 --> 00:01:03,712 gauging in personal attacks 23 00:01:03,712 --> 00:01:05,712 and boisterous immaterial 24 00:01:08,217 --> 00:01:08,918 implants seen profane or was 25 00:01:08,918 --> 00:01:10,918 conduct. Additionally meeting 26 00:01:12,421 --> 00:01:14,560 attendees must refrain from 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:14,657 obscene profane or disorderly 28 00:01:14,657 --> 00:01:16,657 conduct including hand, 29 00:01:19,361 --> 00:01:20,229 clapping and yelling and 30 00:01:20,229 --> 00:01:20,896 similar demonstrations. Always 31 00:01:20,896 --> 00:01:23,896 disturbs the peace and good 32 00:01:24,934 --> 00:01:25,668 order the meeting thank you. 33 00:01:25,668 --> 00:01:26,402 Commissioner dipietro with the 34 00:01:26,402 --> 00:01:30,200 lead us in the playoffs serve. 35 00:01:38,180 --> 00:01:40,490 >> united states of stands one 36 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:40,749 nation under GOD indivisible 37 00:01:40,749 --> 00:01:42,184 with liberty and justice for 38 00:01:42,184 --> 00:01:44,184 all. 39 00:01:52,528 --> 00:01:53,229 >> thank you sir. To bring the 40 00:01:53,229 --> 00:01:53,929 commissioner stow seconded by 41 00:01:53,929 --> 00:01:56,929 vice mayor to approve agenda. 42 00:02:06,442 --> 00:02:08,842 Please that passes 5 to 0. 43 00:02:10,312 --> 00:02:12,712 Probably go to court. 44 00:02:14,383 --> 00:02:16,285 >> robin thomas entail good 45 00:02:16,285 --> 00:02:18,354 evening commissioners as you 46 00:02:18,354 --> 00:02:20,256 are all assistance citizen do 47 00:02:20,256 --> 00:02:21,290 not want any type of data 48 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:23,192 center, especially I first 49 00:02:23,192 --> 00:02:23,860 online in our city you're 50 00:02:23,860 --> 00:02:24,460 tired angry to continuously 51 00:02:24,460 --> 00:02:26,229 hear about the lack of 52 00:02:26,229 --> 00:02:28,229 commercial and industrial 53 00:02:28,464 --> 00:02:29,265 enterprises. You have rezoned 54 00:02:29,265 --> 00:02:29,966 our city in such a way that 55 00:02:29,966 --> 00:02:31,834 you are removing our quality 56 00:02:31,834 --> 00:02:32,568 of life and right to quiet 57 00:02:32,568 --> 00:02:34,938 enjoyment. Understand the need 58 00:02:34,938 --> 00:02:36,238 for change but not at our 59 00:02:36,238 --> 00:02:38,875 expense. We will rise up and 60 00:02:38,875 --> 00:02:39,575 do everything we can to ensure 61 00:02:39,575 --> 00:02:40,743 this doesn't happen. We will 62 00:02:40,743 --> 00:02:43,790 organize together and use our 63 00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:44,780 voices and every available way 64 00:02:44,780 --> 00:02:45,948 order to have our voices heard 65 00:02:45,948 --> 00:02:48,851 and achieve our ultimate goals 66 00:02:48,851 --> 00:02:49,485 which puts the citizen 67 00:02:49,485 --> 00:02:51,287 citizenry and environment 68 00:02:51,287 --> 00:02:51,854 first there are city organized 69 00:02:51,854 --> 00:02:54,254 town halls for media 70 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:56,259 saturation that will change 71 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:58,194 our minds. Commissioners who 72 00:02:58,194 --> 00:02:59,162 are supposed to represent the 73 00:02:59,162 --> 00:02:59,862 citizens. We expect you to do 74 00:02:59,862 --> 00:03:03,462 what is in our best interest 75 00:03:05,568 --> 00:03:06,736 and that center's or not. 76 00:03:06,736 --> 00:03:07,903 Carmen miranda commissioner 77 00:03:07,903 --> 00:03:09,739 posted about center and and 78 00:03:09,739 --> 00:03:11,507 the fact that he feels he can 79 00:03:11,507 --> 00:03:12,842 talk about it because he 80 00:03:12,842 --> 00:03:13,676 didn't sign I agree that 81 00:03:13,676 --> 00:03:14,944 residents have every right to 82 00:03:14,944 --> 00:03:15,678 understand how decisions are 83 00:03:15,678 --> 00:03:18,648 made and that florida's public 84 00:03:18,648 --> 00:03:20,683 records parts closure are not 85 00:03:20,683 --> 00:03:21,684 exempt information. However, I 86 00:03:21,684 --> 00:03:22,818 think important point is ever 87 00:03:22,818 --> 00:03:23,753 left the question is whether 88 00:03:23,753 --> 00:03:24,420 discussing important 89 00:03:24,420 --> 00:03:25,870 information connected to an 90 00:03:25,870 --> 00:03:27,487 act of economic development 91 00:03:31,361 --> 00:03:33,296 perspective. Prospect. Process 92 00:03:33,296 --> 00:03:36,296 runs. Its course serves the 93 00:03:37,132 --> 00:03:38,101 public interest statue 2 88.0 94 00:03:38,101 --> 00:03:38,768 75 protects more brits it 95 00:03:38,768 --> 00:03:40,135 protects a couple companies 96 00:03:40,135 --> 00:03:40,737 plans intentions and interest 97 00:03:40,737 --> 00:03:43,737 on that and locating or 98 00:03:45,275 --> 00:03:45,942 expanding in florida because 99 00:03:45,942 --> 00:03:47,510 the legislature recognized 100 00:03:47,510 --> 00:03:48,211 that premature disclosure can 101 00:03:48,211 --> 00:03:50,611 jeopardize projects in place 102 00:03:51,514 --> 00:03:53,282 communities at a competitive 103 00:03:53,282 --> 00:03:54,984 disadvantage. Part of a center 104 00:03:54,984 --> 00:03:55,685 MAY have a legitimate 105 00:03:55,685 --> 00:03:56,218 expectation that is interest 106 00:03:56,218 --> 00:03:58,618 in the city remains 107 00:03:58,721 --> 00:03:59,422 confidential during the 108 00:03:59,422 --> 00:04:00,220 recruitment phase. Temporary 109 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:00,689 that she only does not 110 00:04:00,689 --> 00:04:03,890 eliminate the club public's 111 00:04:03,126 --> 00:04:04,940 right to know. It's a late 112 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:05,996 disclosure until the process 113 00:04:05,996 --> 00:04:06,896 reaches a stage for the 114 00:04:06,896 --> 00:04:08,498 information can be released 115 00:04:08,498 --> 00:04:09,165 without harming the covid 116 00:04:09,165 --> 00:04:09,899 company's interest for the 117 00:04:09,899 --> 00:04:12,299 community's ability to compete 118 00:04:12,702 --> 00:04:13,569 for economic opportunities. 119 00:04:13,569 --> 00:04:14,403 Residents deserve 120 00:04:14,403 --> 00:04:16,403 transparency. They also 121 00:04:16,406 --> 00:04:17,106 deserve a city that can 122 00:04:17,106 --> 00:04:17,807 successfully complete compete 123 00:04:17,807 --> 00:04:20,777 for jobs and investment those 124 00:04:20,777 --> 00:04:21,477 goals are not mutually. 125 00:04:21,477 --> 00:04:24,477 Exclusive but they do require 126 00:04:25,181 --> 00:04:25,882 careful judgment about timing 127 00:04:25,882 --> 00:04:26,515 its staff and consultants are 128 00:04:26,515 --> 00:04:28,915 falling all and honoring 129 00:04:30,986 --> 00:04:31,720 envelop confidentiality 130 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,888 request. They MAY have limited 131 00:04:32,888 --> 00:04:33,456 ability to disclose 132 00:04:33,456 --> 00:04:34,900 information until the 133 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:36,900 statutory confidentiality 134 00:04:37,359 --> 00:04:37,894 period expires for the company 135 00:04:37,894 --> 00:04:38,561 authorizes release. 136 00:04:38,561 --> 00:04:39,496 >> the issue is not whether 137 00:04:39,496 --> 00:04:40,630 information should become 138 00:04:40,630 --> 00:04:41,331 public the issue is whether it 139 00:04:41,331 --> 00:04:43,731 should become public before 140 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,102 the legal process and economic 141 00:04:46,102 --> 00:04:47,169 development process having 142 00:04:47,169 --> 00:04:48,710 completed and the broader 143 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:48,904 responsibility elected 144 00:04:48,904 --> 00:04:51,304 officials have when dealing 145 00:04:53,176 --> 00:04:55,176 with active perspective 146 00:04:56,846 --> 00:04:57,513 >> thank you moving on to 147 00:04:57,513 --> 00:04:59,849 general business item a 26 148 00:04:59,849 --> 00:05:01,849 dash 9, 6, 8, city manager, 149 00:05:03,853 --> 00:05:06,253 this is your item. 150 00:05:06,656 --> 00:05:08,758 >> it is made as discussed a 151 00:05:08,758 --> 00:05:09,926 possible action regarding the 152 00:05:09,926 --> 00:05:10,526 2026 certification of taxable 153 00:05:10,526 --> 00:05:12,526 value proposed millage 154 00:05:13,596 --> 00:05:14,297 scheduled days for public 155 00:05:14,297 --> 00:05:14,964 hearings. We do have a short 156 00:05:14,964 --> 00:05:17,364 presentation to go through 157 00:05:18,701 --> 00:05:19,435 with you today and starting. 158 00:05:19,435 --> 00:05:21,938 There's a lot talk about the 159 00:05:21,938 --> 00:05:22,605 maximum rate so we are 160 00:05:22,605 --> 00:05:25,605 recommending to the boy or 161 00:05:28,110 --> 00:05:30,110 rate of 3 point 7, 6, 6, 7, 162 00:05:31,647 --> 00:05:34,183 been the same rate since 2021 163 00:05:34,183 --> 00:05:36,183 producing revenue that 164 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:39,622 41 million 697. $1000. 165 00:05:39,622 --> 00:05:40,323 >> you look at the history of 166 00:05:40,323 --> 00:05:43,923 our millage rate this will be 167 00:05:45,628 --> 00:05:47,628 the. 168 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:48,865 >> year in a row of keeping a 169 00:05:48,865 --> 00:05:49,565 really great the which is 170 00:05:49,565 --> 00:05:52,565 probably talk about a little 171 00:05:53,636 --> 00:05:54,304 bit during our conversation 172 00:05:54,304 --> 00:05:56,704 earlier today meaning that 173 00:05:57,641 --> 00:05:59,642 other fully know is that and 174 00:05:59,642 --> 00:06:01,711 rate is not the only tax or 175 00:06:01,711 --> 00:06:04,647 fee that the city's control of 176 00:06:04,647 --> 00:06:06,650 that is the largest one in our 177 00:06:06,650 --> 00:06:08,518 revenues green one that people 178 00:06:08,518 --> 00:06:09,219 most associated with so 179 00:06:09,219 --> 00:06:10,286 keeping the snow rain say to 180 00:06:10,286 --> 00:06:13,390 this law is in the coffin of 181 00:06:13,390 --> 00:06:14,900 the rays have increased not 182 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:16,490 have increased. Has increased 183 00:06:20,796 --> 00:06:23,399 in that time period. Looking 184 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:25,399 taxable valuation going 2 185 00:06:25,535 --> 00:06:26,402 years where we have been on a 186 00:06:26,402 --> 00:06:28,504 porch swing and we continue 187 00:06:28,504 --> 00:06:32,104 that way growth of our city 188 00:06:32,608 --> 00:06:33,476 has been locally nationally we 189 00:06:33,476 --> 00:06:34,430 have been very much praise for 190 00:06:34,430 --> 00:06:37,430 the growth in our tax 191 00:06:37,714 --> 00:06:39,749 violations of our city. We 192 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:40,750 know that it can last at the 193 00:06:40,750 --> 00:06:41,451 same rate forever, but we do 194 00:06:41,451 --> 00:06:42,118 believe that people are going 195 00:06:42,118 --> 00:06:45,555 to want to continue to come 196 00:06:45,555 --> 00:06:46,656 and moved here that is based 197 00:06:46,656 --> 00:06:49,693 on the quality of life the 198 00:06:49,693 --> 00:06:50,493 successes that we have and 199 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:52,262 will leave by people who 200 00:06:52,262 --> 00:06:52,929 either moved here 3 years or 201 00:06:52,929 --> 00:06:53,563 30 years ago they have seen 202 00:06:53,563 --> 00:06:55,963 the growth and appreciate 203 00:06:57,333 --> 00:07:00,933 where we are as I mentioned 204 00:07:03,173 --> 00:07:03,807 some of the so what the tactic 205 00:07:03,807 --> 00:07:06,807 proposing is that you are 206 00:07:07,376 --> 00:07:11,514 allowed to use a role our room 207 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:14,830 but raised 3.82 for it to make 208 00:07:14,830 --> 00:07:16,286 a which is higher than our 209 00:07:16,286 --> 00:07:17,921 current rate so that would 210 00:07:17,921 --> 00:07:20,321 bring $42,000 revenue for an 211 00:07:22,993 --> 00:07:23,693 extra $680,000 wires a 212 00:07:23,693 --> 00:07:26,596 majority of the vote 3 of the 213 00:07:26,596 --> 00:07:27,364 5 of you to do that that means 214 00:07:27,364 --> 00:07:28,310 you know your that could be 215 00:07:28,310 --> 00:07:31,310 the starting point of where 216 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:34,171 you start to look at how tall 217 00:07:34,171 --> 00:07:35,371 said some of the cost of going 218 00:07:35,371 --> 00:07:35,972 to it does need to be able to 219 00:07:35,972 --> 00:07:37,673 layered approach to the 220 00:07:37,673 --> 00:07:40,673 situation and not just looking 221 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:43,710 all expenses all the time. 222 00:07:46,549 --> 00:07:49,549 Also the rollback rate as 223 00:07:51,521 --> 00:07:53,523 possibility as you move role 224 00:07:53,523 --> 00:07:56,959 that at one and 2% would be 225 00:07:56,959 --> 00:07:58,959 4.2 1, 2 or 46.6 million 226 00:08:00,197 --> 00:08:01,231 dollars for extra 4.9 million 227 00:08:01,231 --> 00:08:01,965 dollars and that will require 228 00:08:01,965 --> 00:08:05,565 a two-thirds vote for a battle 229 00:08:07,537 --> 00:08:08,938 of the board order to pass 230 00:08:08,938 --> 00:08:12,409 that do have one or that that 231 00:08:12,409 --> 00:08:13,776 it was does look aggressive 232 00:08:13,776 --> 00:08:14,844 most likely it is, but I think 233 00:08:14,844 --> 00:08:15,611 they put that you know that 234 00:08:15,611 --> 00:08:19,211 you would have rates we would 235 00:08:20,350 --> 00:08:20,984 have in order to I mean the 236 00:08:20,984 --> 00:08:23,984 need. Right here. We are 237 00:08:29,926 --> 00:08:30,627 looking in. But of the 238 00:08:30,627 --> 00:08:31,327 rollback rate and as you can 239 00:08:31,327 --> 00:08:34,927 see you know public safety is 240 00:08:35,398 --> 00:08:37,200 still above that what we look 241 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,368 at when you look at the 242 00:08:38,368 --> 00:08:40,300 revenue the current millage in 243 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:43,300 the rollback rate when are 244 00:08:45,242 --> 00:08:46,175 told that you can see the 245 00:08:46,175 --> 00:08:47,343 public safety fired you is a 246 00:08:47,343 --> 00:08:48,111 boat that mean that still have 247 00:08:48,111 --> 00:08:49,879 somebody to go in order to 248 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:54,790 make sure that we make up for 249 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,153 that part of general fund. 250 00:08:57,153 --> 00:08:59,856 Here you see red that are 251 00:08:59,856 --> 00:09:00,957 right on my farm your 252 00:09:00,957 --> 00:09:03,357 division. Police and fire 253 00:09:05,162 --> 00:09:08,162 making up roughly 89% of the 254 00:09:12,135 --> 00:09:13,136 actual. So which is the but we 255 00:09:13,136 --> 00:09:13,870 know that that can't be the 256 00:09:13,870 --> 00:09:16,873 target of what we're trying to 257 00:09:16,873 --> 00:09:17,474 accomplish we deal with 258 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:18,175 whatever second forward 259 00:09:18,175 --> 00:09:21,144 everybody an assault or even 260 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:23,179 if it doesn't happen so we're 261 00:09:23,179 --> 00:09:26,415 always trying to make that he 262 00:09:26,415 --> 00:09:27,116 made today a lot of partners 263 00:09:27,116 --> 00:09:28,918 should you're deciding how to 264 00:09:28,918 --> 00:09:30,353 make sure that we could take 265 00:09:30,353 --> 00:09:31,221 care and tackle this problem 266 00:09:31,221 --> 00:09:31,921 together as a city and not 267 00:09:31,921 --> 00:09:34,321 heisley anyone department or 268 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:42,866 division. It's a the existing 269 00:09:42,866 --> 00:09:44,200 service level. Many 0.2 270 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,200 million dollars budget 271 00:09:46,736 --> 00:09:47,437 proposal for 2.3 million 272 00:09:47,437 --> 00:09:49,837 dozens were 2 million dollars 273 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,606 in our cip was an additional 4 274 00:09:54,411 --> 00:09:56,411 to 46. $1000 totaling 9 e 275 00:10:00,750 --> 00:10:02,852 953 million dollars. When you 276 00:10:02,852 --> 00:10:05,852 get know what poll 2.3 million 277 00:10:06,890 --> 00:10:09,689 you can see that 802 that was 278 00:10:10,260 --> 00:10:12,426 through the fire department. 279 00:10:13,329 --> 00:10:16,866 Then you do services at a 280 00:10:16,866 --> 00:10:17,800 million dollars a few other 281 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,502 funds for efficient technology 282 00:10:18,502 --> 00:10:21,502 city managers and small parks 283 00:10:25,842 --> 00:10:26,877 and recreation. What this 284 00:10:26,877 --> 00:10:29,877 right here about 2 dozen that 285 00:10:30,580 --> 00:10:32,315 up 2.0 72 million dollars. 286 00:10:32,315 --> 00:10:35,170 Here's where and how we got to 287 00:10:35,170 --> 00:10:38,288 love 5% of the barn size. The 288 00:10:38,288 --> 00:10:42,359 problem is it is will be I'm 289 00:10:42,359 --> 00:10:43,793 in year's exercise a 10%. Even 290 00:10:43,793 --> 00:10:47,393 though we MAY not take that 2% 291 00:10:47,564 --> 00:10:49,332 we have to perform exercise by 292 00:10:49,332 --> 00:10:49,999 by law and you have to publish 293 00:10:49,999 --> 00:10:53,303 it what you do it you can't 294 00:10:53,303 --> 00:10:54,304 just do it and keep it to 295 00:10:54,304 --> 00:10:56,706 yourself so we are going to 296 00:10:56,706 --> 00:11:00,306 see next how 10% of the budget 297 00:11:02,546 --> 00:11:03,246 reduction impacts our. 298 00:11:03,246 --> 00:11:05,646 Services the quality services 299 00:11:06,883 --> 00:11:07,583 that we provide. It's 300 00:11:07,583 --> 00:11:10,583 something like I said really 301 00:11:11,655 --> 00:11:12,356 want to talk about take it out 302 00:11:12,356 --> 00:11:15,726 exactly what the us to do as 303 00:11:15,726 --> 00:11:17,360 far I want to use an dealers 304 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,940 and how we move forward, but 305 00:11:18,940 --> 00:11:20,797 we we will those conversations 306 00:11:20,797 --> 00:11:23,433 that I knew back recess from 307 00:11:23,433 --> 00:11:24,535 recess in AUGUST and SEPTEMBER 308 00:11:24,535 --> 00:11:25,235 we should have more 309 00:11:25,235 --> 00:11:27,704 information to share with you 310 00:11:27,704 --> 00:11:28,438 just a pathway forward. 311 00:11:28,438 --> 00:11:30,838 Commissioner, a federal region 312 00:11:32,876 --> 00:11:33,543 earlier not waiting too. Get 313 00:11:33,543 --> 00:11:34,244 out in front of the things 314 00:11:34,244 --> 00:11:34,878 that's something that we talk 315 00:11:34,878 --> 00:11:37,878 about what do. Earlier as 316 00:11:41,985 --> 00:11:43,553 well. So next steps is of 317 00:11:43,553 --> 00:11:45,953 course the certifications of 318 00:11:46,323 --> 00:11:48,723 taxable due to county 319 00:11:49,592 --> 00:11:50,193 appraiser AUGUST 17 the 320 00:11:50,193 --> 00:11:51,962 mileage. The estimated 321 00:11:51,962 --> 00:11:52,662 building of the chain noses 322 00:11:52,662 --> 00:11:55,662 will happen. SEPTEMBER to be 323 00:11:56,999 --> 00:11:57,734 your first public. Budget 324 00:11:57,734 --> 00:12:00,134 hearing meeting attended doing 325 00:12:01,772 --> 00:12:04,207 that with rate will be and I 326 00:12:04,207 --> 00:12:05,943 don't is going for to be a 327 00:12:05,943 --> 00:12:08,943 second public to adopt the 328 00:12:11,614 --> 00:12:12,282 budget in rates. That is all 329 00:12:12,282 --> 00:12:15,882 we have the question to the 330 00:12:16,850 --> 00:12:19,685 board we have. Get into have 331 00:12:29,666 --> 00:12:31,935 anything. And the budget. Have 332 00:12:31,935 --> 00:12:34,704 any public not. And all of 333 00:12:34,704 --> 00:12:36,704 emotion. 334 00:12:41,811 --> 00:12:43,120 I guess so make it. 335 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,412 >> moved to direct city 336 00:12:47,451 --> 00:12:48,118 manager to submit the 2026 337 00:12:48,118 --> 00:12:49,118 certificated certificate, a 338 00:12:49,118 --> 00:12:51,518 taxable value would pose 339 00:12:53,157 --> 00:12:54,124 millet rate of 3.7 6, 6, 7, 340 00:12:54,124 --> 00:12:56,326 >> have a motion on the floor 341 00:12:56,326 --> 00:12:58,726 made commissioner stow's city 342 00:12:59,996 --> 00:13:00,697 manager to submit the 2026 343 00:13:00,697 --> 00:13:01,431 certificate of taxable value 344 00:13:01,431 --> 00:13:04,100 with the proposed millage rate 345 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:04,701 3.7 6, 6, 7, made by 346 00:13:04,701 --> 00:13:06,701 commissioner stella seconded 347 00:13:06,736 --> 00:13:07,403 by vice mayor. 348 00:13:07,403 --> 00:13:09,803 >> there's nothing to that 349 00:13:13,176 --> 00:13:15,512 please bow. Passes 5, 0, and 350 00:13:15,512 --> 00:13:17,912 you know the motion. 351 00:13:21,218 --> 00:13:22,285 >> for the dates you. 352 00:13:22,285 --> 00:13:24,487 >> I mean know I move to 353 00:13:24,487 --> 00:13:27,487 approve the days of SEPTEMBER 354 00:13:30,293 --> 00:13:31,494 10th 2026 at 5 oh 01:00pm and 355 00:13:31,494 --> 00:13:32,950 SEPTEMBER 24th 2026 at 5 oh 356 00:13:32,950 --> 00:13:34,495 01:00pm for the budget 357 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,167 hearings. 358 00:13:38,167 --> 00:13:39,203 >> motion on the floor made 359 00:13:39,203 --> 00:13:41,871 vice mayor to approve the 360 00:13:41,871 --> 00:13:43,907 dates of SEPTEMBER 10th 2026 5 361 00:13:43,907 --> 00:13:46,307 oh 01:00pm SEPTEMBER 24th 2026 362 00:13:48,278 --> 00:13:48,978 at 5 oh 01:00pm for the budget 363 00:13:48,978 --> 00:13:50,547 hearings made vice mayor and 364 00:13:50,547 --> 00:13:52,547 seconded by commissioner 365 00:13:59,356 --> 00:14:00,590 nothing to that please vote. 366 00:14:00,590 --> 00:14:04,190 Not pass is 5 to 0 moving on 367 00:14:05,528 --> 00:14:07,928 to item 26 dash. 0, 4, sitting 368 00:14:09,366 --> 00:14:11,167 does your 369 00:14:11,167 --> 00:14:14,167 >> is that JULY 21st meeting 370 00:14:15,972 --> 00:14:16,673 commission took action 371 00:14:16,673 --> 00:14:17,540 >> directed the city manager 372 00:14:17,540 --> 00:14:18,241 schedule a special meeting for 373 00:14:18,241 --> 00:14:21,241 data center moratorium in the 374 00:14:21,845 --> 00:14:22,746 month of AUGUST in clearing 375 00:14:22,746 --> 00:14:24,181 the commissioners I could not 376 00:14:24,181 --> 00:14:24,915 find a date that all 377 00:14:24,915 --> 00:14:27,315 commissioners could be present 378 00:14:29,986 --> 00:14:30,687 in the month of AUGUST so I 379 00:14:30,687 --> 00:14:32,122 have provided states that the 380 00:14:32,122 --> 00:14:32,922 majority of the commission can 381 00:14:32,922 --> 00:14:34,124 be present for you all 382 00:14:34,124 --> 00:14:34,824 determine what date would work 383 00:14:34,824 --> 00:14:35,459 best for you or if we should 384 00:14:35,459 --> 00:14:37,859 push until the SEPTEMBER 385 00:14:41,564 --> 00:14:42,732 meetings. 386 00:14:42,732 --> 00:14:44,668 >> and just a reminder. We're 387 00:14:44,668 --> 00:14:47,680 just discussing that days 388 00:14:47,404 --> 00:14:48,438 before the meeting in this 389 00:14:48,438 --> 00:14:49,339 conversation we are not 390 00:14:49,339 --> 00:14:50,774 discussing any of the unders 391 00:14:50,774 --> 00:14:53,843 just to set up this meeting so 392 00:14:53,843 --> 00:14:55,843 commissioner steps. Question 393 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 for seeing that today. Is 394 00:15:01,751 --> 00:15:04,751 there any impact on. Strength 395 00:15:06,489 --> 00:15:09,489 of any legal arguments. We 396 00:15:10,827 --> 00:15:12,428 schedule this like. It's a 397 00:15:12,428 --> 00:15:13,196 parolee and this week and for 398 00:15:13,196 --> 00:15:16,196 first week of SEPTEMBER there. 399 00:15:16,466 --> 00:15:20,660 I mean just that period of 400 00:15:21,104 --> 00:15:24,141 time. Any on how the court may 401 00:15:24,141 --> 00:15:24,875 look this. 402 00:15:24,875 --> 00:15:25,509 >> I don't think it's going to 403 00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:28,509 have much of a difference 404 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:32,580 either way. Commissioner spoke 405 00:15:36,686 --> 00:15:37,955 up. Admire. 406 00:15:37,955 --> 00:15:38,789 >> I'm just and and looking my 407 00:15:38,789 --> 00:15:42,389 calendar we wanted to try to 408 00:15:43,726 --> 00:15:45,496 adhere to the letter of the 409 00:15:45,496 --> 00:15:49,960 law. Monday is AUGUST 31st and 410 00:15:49,266 --> 00:15:53,136 we are all back in we could 411 00:15:53,136 --> 00:15:55,438 schedule with and still be in 412 00:15:55,438 --> 00:15:57,838 otherwise my only concern 413 00:15:58,408 --> 00:15:59,109 would be for city with with 414 00:15:59,109 --> 00:16:02,109 never done anything like this 415 00:16:05,248 --> 00:16:07,284 we do have some good examples 416 00:16:07,284 --> 00:16:07,984 without AUGUST 31st, give you 417 00:16:07,984 --> 00:16:10,987 enough time to do a good job 418 00:16:10,987 --> 00:16:12,987 on ordinance. 419 00:16:16,459 --> 00:16:17,627 >> that's the first. 420 00:16:17,627 --> 00:16:18,328 >> but that we're looking at 421 00:16:18,328 --> 00:16:20,328 SEPTEMBER alternative what's 422 00:16:20,764 --> 00:16:22,900 the difference in the week. 423 00:16:22,900 --> 00:16:26,500 Think that would be much you 424 00:16:28,772 --> 00:16:31,772 so that that's anybody else. 425 00:16:35,712 --> 00:16:36,413 We have the public 426 00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:37,114 >> it is extremely important 427 00:16:37,114 --> 00:16:37,848 that any meeting the schedule 428 00:16:37,848 --> 00:16:38,815 thus far in advance as 429 00:16:38,815 --> 00:16:41,215 possible. So that public 430 00:16:41,751 --> 00:16:43,820 comment can the most simple 431 00:16:43,820 --> 00:16:44,521 public comment can be the most 432 00:16:44,521 --> 00:16:45,188 important at this time, none 433 00:16:45,188 --> 00:16:45,789 of the request dealing with 434 00:16:45,789 --> 00:16:48,189 the disasters have been 435 00:16:49,126 --> 00:16:51,794 responded to by the city. Rob 436 00:16:51,794 --> 00:16:52,396 thomas sent good evening 437 00:16:52,396 --> 00:16:53,363 commissioners with the 438 00:16:53,363 --> 00:16:54,864 citizens citizens of north 439 00:16:54,864 --> 00:16:58,100 port would like to first the 440 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:59,937 first reading of the or more 441 00:16:59,937 --> 00:17:01,271 06:00pm meeting in order to 442 00:17:01,271 --> 00:17:02,840 allow for full participation 443 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,640 of the citizens, this is too 444 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,340 much of an important topic to 445 00:17:04,340 --> 00:17:06,760 have it held at 10:00am when 446 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:06,810 the majority of our citizens, 447 00:17:06,810 --> 00:17:07,377 our work. Please consider this 448 00:17:07,377 --> 00:17:10,377 a sense first in your 449 00:17:13,284 --> 00:17:14,318 decision. Carmen miranda. 450 00:17:14,318 --> 00:17:15,385 Commissioner posted about this 451 00:17:15,385 --> 00:17:17,287 is the exact same public 452 00:17:17,287 --> 00:17:18,210 comment that we received for 453 00:17:18,210 --> 00:17:22,392 the last one do you want me to 454 00:17:22,392 --> 00:17:22,693 read into the record again I 455 00:17:22,693 --> 00:17:24,693 just. 456 00:17:25,395 --> 00:17:27,795 >> for legality purposes I 457 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:29,666 suspect for both commissioner 458 00:17:29,666 --> 00:17:30,366 about the data center and the 459 00:17:30,366 --> 00:17:31,680 and the fact that he feels he 460 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,268 can talk about it because he 461 00:17:32,268 --> 00:17:32,870 didn't sign it. 462 00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:35,270 >> I have everybody to 463 00:17:36,506 --> 00:17:38,906 understand how decisions are 464 00:17:41,612 --> 00:17:42,178 made in that parks non-exempt 465 00:17:42,178 --> 00:17:42,879 information. Think an 466 00:17:42,879 --> 00:17:43,546 important point is that real 467 00:17:43,546 --> 00:17:44,147 up the question is whether 468 00:17:44,147 --> 00:17:45,810 discussing information 469 00:17:45,810 --> 00:17:46,116 connected to an act of 470 00:17:46,116 --> 00:17:46,817 economic development prospect 471 00:17:46,817 --> 00:17:47,784 before the statutory process 472 00:17:47,784 --> 00:17:50,587 runs its course serves the 473 00:17:50,587 --> 00:17:52,587 public interest. Florida 474 00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:56,426 statute 2 88.0 7, 5, protects 475 00:17:56,426 --> 00:17:57,628 more than trade secret to 476 00:17:57,628 --> 00:17:58,395 protect company's plans 477 00:17:58,395 --> 00:17:59,663 intentions, an interest 478 00:17:59,663 --> 00:18:02,630 locating or expanding in 479 00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:03,933 florida because the legislator 480 00:18:03,933 --> 00:18:04,501 legislature recognized that 481 00:18:04,501 --> 00:18:05,202 premature disclosure 482 00:18:05,202 --> 00:18:07,602 jeopardize projects in place 483 00:18:08,205 --> 00:18:08,639 communities at a competitive 484 00:18:08,639 --> 00:18:10,373 disadvantage. 485 00:18:10,373 --> 00:18:11,740 >> company evaluating front 486 00:18:11,740 --> 00:18:11,775 center MAY have a legitimate 487 00:18:11,775 --> 00:18:12,309 expectation that its interest 488 00:18:12,309 --> 00:18:14,709 in the city remains 489 00:18:14,878 --> 00:18:15,545 confidential during the 490 00:18:15,545 --> 00:18:16,213 recruitment face temporary 491 00:18:16,213 --> 00:18:18,213 mentioning confidentiality 492 00:18:19,382 --> 00:18:21,184 does not eliminate. The 493 00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:21,985 public's right to if the 494 00:18:21,985 --> 00:18:22,686 latest closure until the 495 00:18:22,686 --> 00:18:24,540 process reaches the stage for 496 00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:25,589 the information can be 497 00:18:25,589 --> 00:18:26,256 released without harming the 498 00:18:26,256 --> 00:18:26,991 company's interest for the 499 00:18:26,991 --> 00:18:29,391 community's ability to compete 500 00:18:29,860 --> 00:18:31,428 for economic opportunities. 501 00:18:31,428 --> 00:18:32,950 residents deserve 502 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:32,796 transparency. Deserve city 503 00:18:32,796 --> 00:18:35,196 that can successfully compete 504 00:18:35,699 --> 00:18:36,766 for jobs and investment. 505 00:18:36,766 --> 00:18:38,569 Vessels are not mutually 506 00:18:38,569 --> 00:18:41,472 exclusive, but they do require 507 00:18:41,472 --> 00:18:42,573 careful judgment about timing 508 00:18:42,573 --> 00:18:44,641 if staff and so those are 509 00:18:44,641 --> 00:18:45,576 honoring about confidentiality 510 00:18:45,576 --> 00:18:46,677 request, they MAY have limited 511 00:18:46,677 --> 00:18:47,944 ability to disclose 512 00:18:47,944 --> 00:18:48,679 information to the statutory 513 00:18:48,679 --> 00:18:50,679 confidentiality period expires 514 00:18:51,810 --> 00:18:52,115 where the company authorizes 515 00:18:52,115 --> 00:18:53,283 release the issue is not 516 00:18:53,283 --> 00:18:54,718 whether information should 517 00:18:54,718 --> 00:18:56,286 become public. The issue is 518 00:18:56,286 --> 00:18:57,888 whether it should be become 519 00:18:57,888 --> 00:18:58,722 public before the legal 520 00:18:58,722 --> 00:18:59,956 process and economic 521 00:18:59,956 --> 00:19:01,158 development process have been 522 00:19:01,158 --> 00:19:01,858 completed and the broader 523 00:19:01,858 --> 00:19:02,526 responsibility elected 524 00:19:02,526 --> 00:19:03,227 officials have been dealing 525 00:19:03,227 --> 00:19:05,627 with active prospects models 526 00:19:08,232 --> 00:19:10,167 all there. 527 00:19:10,167 --> 00:19:12,567 >> all right, I'm going 528 00:19:14,271 --> 00:19:15,472 request a motion mayor if I is 529 00:19:15,472 --> 00:19:17,872 a scheduled for 10:00am 530 00:19:22,513 --> 00:19:23,914 meeting. Which is a problem I 531 00:19:23,914 --> 00:19:24,581 think I don't any problem with 532 00:19:24,581 --> 00:19:27,581 public comment to set that 533 00:19:27,651 --> 00:19:27,918 should be an evening meeting 534 00:19:27,918 --> 00:19:28,618 so. 535 00:19:28,618 --> 00:19:32,218 >> you know I don't know how 536 00:19:33,223 --> 00:19:34,624 we handle if we. You to push 537 00:19:34,624 --> 00:19:35,425 it out for SEPTEMBER but 538 00:19:35,425 --> 00:19:38,929 unless we can switch time of 539 00:19:38,929 --> 00:19:41,329 that meeting from 10 flooded 540 00:19:42,766 --> 00:19:44,501 before. Well one. 541 00:19:44,501 --> 00:19:45,168 >> one local city clerk, you 542 00:19:45,168 --> 00:19:47,905 know when the next meeting 543 00:19:47,905 --> 00:19:50,905 would be the 6 o'clock that's 544 00:19:55,912 --> 00:19:59,512 quite a ways down the road. 545 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:01,886 >> ok back to city attorney 546 00:20:01,886 --> 00:20:03,854 delay in that would that have 547 00:20:03,854 --> 00:20:05,189 any effects to what we're 548 00:20:05,189 --> 00:20:08,789 trying to do legally I know 549 00:20:09,693 --> 00:20:10,494 would like to do it as soon as 550 00:20:10,494 --> 00:20:13,494 possible what that was today 551 00:20:14,465 --> 00:20:14,832 and it was 22nd, I believe she 552 00:20:14,832 --> 00:20:16,832 predator. 553 00:20:18,269 --> 00:20:21,400 >> tell you I think now the 554 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,400 report about you MAY start 555 00:20:24,842 --> 00:20:25,542 running into some problems 556 00:20:25,542 --> 00:20:26,276 there. 557 00:20:26,276 --> 00:20:27,311 >> we also MAY be suggestions. 558 00:20:27,311 --> 00:20:28,450 We have the day meeting just 559 00:20:28,450 --> 00:20:28,712 schedule, a special meeting at 560 00:20:28,712 --> 00:20:29,346 city managers are paid for 561 00:20:29,346 --> 00:20:32,116 06:00pm just for that one 562 00:20:32,116 --> 00:20:34,116 item. 563 00:20:37,455 --> 00:20:39,855 >> and we can do 564 00:20:44,528 --> 00:20:45,695 >> we will 565 00:20:45,695 --> 00:20:46,897 >> got put down or city 566 00:20:46,897 --> 00:20:47,597 manager we couldn't be here 567 00:20:47,597 --> 00:20:48,232 today on the 22nd because we 568 00:20:48,232 --> 00:20:49,667 have a court about vision 569 00:20:49,667 --> 00:20:52,667 hearing that's the. Creep into 570 00:20:54,471 --> 00:20:57,471 that very quickly 22nd that 571 00:21:01,578 --> 00:21:02,245 we're you being the day 572 00:21:02,245 --> 00:21:05,245 because to do the opposite 573 00:21:05,416 --> 00:21:06,650 correct. 574 00:21:06,650 --> 00:21:07,284 >> now we're talking about not 575 00:21:07,284 --> 00:21:10,284 waiting until the end of 576 00:21:11,221 --> 00:21:12,556 SEPTEMBER having it on the 577 00:21:12,556 --> 00:21:13,724 case. Having a special meeting 578 00:21:13,724 --> 00:21:17,924 at 6 o'clock you can so what I 579 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,736 do have a scheduled for right 580 00:21:25,736 --> 00:21:26,770 now right sitting blocking 581 00:21:26,770 --> 00:21:29,373 they're saying they keep a 582 00:21:29,373 --> 00:21:30,400 10:00am meeting on SEPTEMBER 8 583 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,908 regular special meeting at 584 00:21:31,908 --> 00:21:32,510 06:00pm for just the one item. 585 00:21:32,510 --> 00:21:34,910 >> first reading of the 586 00:21:39,683 --> 00:21:41,419 ordinance. And keep the 22nd 587 00:21:41,419 --> 00:21:42,860 where is according to I mean 588 00:21:42,860 --> 00:21:45,860 we've changed to more city 589 00:21:45,956 --> 00:21:46,657 clerk to where. 590 00:21:46,657 --> 00:21:47,391 >> we've done our best to do 591 00:21:47,391 --> 00:21:51,591 it a day and night meeting but 592 00:21:52,196 --> 00:21:53,931 we have. Donald meetings to 593 00:21:53,931 --> 00:21:54,798 where it's both daytime and 594 00:21:54,798 --> 00:21:55,499 both nighttime so why would 595 00:21:55,499 --> 00:21:58,499 this differ in that category 596 00:21:58,769 --> 00:21:59,536 we could still the 6 o'clock 597 00:21:59,536 --> 00:22:00,937 at night and then the 6 598 00:22:00,937 --> 00:22:03,337 o'clock in the 20 seconds 599 00:22:05,775 --> 00:22:06,110 still yes, get it done nothing 600 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:08,110 to say. 601 00:22:08,912 --> 00:22:09,946 >> I don't want to vote you 602 00:22:09,946 --> 00:22:13,546 the practice I want the past 603 00:22:15,853 --> 00:22:16,554 before for. Citizen 604 00:22:16,554 --> 00:22:17,221 consumption we just both not 605 00:22:17,221 --> 00:22:20,221 that that's even better for 606 00:22:21,258 --> 00:22:21,992 the citizens. 607 00:22:21,992 --> 00:22:22,693 >> it's just one of during the 608 00:22:22,693 --> 00:22:23,427 day which is why you have to 609 00:22:23,427 --> 00:22:24,595 practice understand that sir. 610 00:22:24,595 --> 00:22:26,595 I just want 611 00:22:34,204 --> 00:22:34,805 >> I 612 00:22:34,805 --> 00:22:37,805 >> the times and do the 613 00:22:39,176 --> 00:22:41,512 meeting on 8th. At 6 and do 614 00:22:41,512 --> 00:22:44,512 the meeting on the 20 whatever 615 00:22:45,515 --> 00:22:47,384 it is at 10 and you what the 616 00:22:47,384 --> 00:22:50,288 times you know there you can 617 00:22:50,288 --> 00:22:53,290 even be here for that we can 618 00:22:53,290 --> 00:22:54,858 do so we won't have the 619 00:22:54,858 --> 00:22:57,858 official poor you that would 620 00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:04,135 be or simply schedules second 621 00:23:04,135 --> 00:23:06,300 reading during a special 622 00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:08,138 meeting as well to both in a 623 00:23:08,138 --> 00:23:11,138 special meeting and not have 624 00:23:11,141 --> 00:23:12,243 to spring all I mean the years 625 00:23:12,243 --> 00:23:13,243 while there I questions of 626 00:23:13,243 --> 00:23:15,112 city attorney because I want 627 00:23:15,112 --> 00:23:15,680 to make sure that there 628 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,479 wouldn't be any legal 629 00:23:16,479 --> 00:23:20,790 prejudice in terms of the port 630 00:23:20,283 --> 00:23:22,683 of but there's also. 631 00:23:23,254 --> 00:23:25,550 >> the fact that we want this 632 00:23:25,550 --> 00:23:27,458 before us we don't want this 633 00:23:27,458 --> 00:23:29,590 can kick down the road for a 634 00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:29,760 month 2 months 3 months people 635 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,461 are concerned about this and 636 00:23:30,461 --> 00:23:34,610 the sooner we address it the 637 00:23:34,565 --> 00:23:37,535 sooner. In my personal opinion 638 00:23:37,535 --> 00:23:38,402 we put a moratorium in place 639 00:23:38,402 --> 00:23:40,103 you're all so if we could do 640 00:23:40,103 --> 00:23:40,837 it tomorrow, I'd be happy to 641 00:23:40,837 --> 00:23:44,508 do with them so if earliest is 642 00:23:44,508 --> 00:23:45,109 the 8th of SEPTEMBER. So be 643 00:23:45,109 --> 00:23:45,943 it. Let's do a special 644 00:23:45,943 --> 00:23:46,243 meeting, let's just get it 645 00:23:46,243 --> 00:23:47,711 done. 646 00:23:47,711 --> 00:23:50,111 >> mayor if I MAY. 647 00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:54,350 >> I'll call on 648 00:23:58,220 --> 00:23:58,421 >> here you've got a city 649 00:23:58,421 --> 00:24:00,421 preference. 650 00:24:01,158 --> 00:24:02,626 >> I'm if you want I think the 651 00:24:02,626 --> 00:24:06,226 vice used to second. We are 652 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:10,434 all second meeting morning 10 653 00:24:10,434 --> 00:24:13,434 days before publication of the 654 00:24:15,172 --> 00:24:17,172 final. 655 00:24:18,175 --> 00:24:21,775 >> it you know be 9 days if 656 00:24:23,914 --> 00:24:24,615 you how we just thought. 657 00:24:24,615 --> 00:24:28,215 >> you know it's going to say 658 00:24:30,888 --> 00:24:32,189 same attorney was that we do 659 00:24:32,189 --> 00:24:36,389 it in the month of AUGUST so 660 00:24:36,427 --> 00:24:36,794 plea let's let's stick to 661 00:24:36,794 --> 00:24:37,495 motions. 662 00:24:37,495 --> 00:24:40,865 >> and not going all the way 663 00:24:40,865 --> 00:24:43,166 till SEPTEMBER. Maybe we can 664 00:24:43,166 --> 00:24:43,834 do it earlier and one of us is 665 00:24:43,834 --> 00:24:46,169 missing and the quarter was 666 00:24:46,169 --> 00:24:48,169 there. 667 00:24:48,372 --> 00:24:50,372 >> and unanimously 668 00:24:53,276 --> 00:24:56,276 >> the motion so. Percy know 669 00:24:58,449 --> 00:25:00,551 major changes on hand. As far 670 00:25:00,551 --> 00:25:03,854 as actual ordinance to the I 671 00:25:03,854 --> 00:25:04,221 see trying to get isn't 672 00:25:04,221 --> 00:25:04,922 working. 673 00:25:04,922 --> 00:25:08,522 >> I see trying to get there 674 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:09,827 but with that said you know, 675 00:25:09,827 --> 00:25:12,227 everybody makes plans and 676 00:25:12,696 --> 00:25:14,598 stuff like that so if I don't 677 00:25:14,598 --> 00:25:15,799 think it's fair that we have a 678 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:16,634 meeting without full bore I 679 00:25:16,634 --> 00:25:17,368 don't think it's for I mean we 680 00:25:17,368 --> 00:25:20,368 have to make concessions to 681 00:25:20,404 --> 00:25:21,710 where we can meet when 682 00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:23,607 everybody comey I mean you 683 00:25:23,607 --> 00:25:24,275 that stuff that you are going 684 00:25:24,275 --> 00:25:27,745 on. Just met without you it 685 00:25:27,745 --> 00:25:28,412 wouldn't be fair to you. So we 686 00:25:28,412 --> 00:25:31,412 that's why we need discuss 687 00:25:32,583 --> 00:25:34,685 haven't a speeding and in for 688 00:25:34,685 --> 00:25:36,453 everybody, so commissioner 689 00:25:36,453 --> 00:25:37,455 vice mayor yeah, I just think 690 00:25:37,455 --> 00:25:38,155 that this topic is too 691 00:25:38,155 --> 00:25:39,590 important to not have a full 692 00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:41,590 board thank 693 00:25:41,659 --> 00:25:44,659 >> person would work. As a 694 00:25:57,410 --> 00:25:57,741 city attorney. Which first. 695 00:25:57,741 --> 00:25:58,475 And this is that need correct 696 00:25:58,475 --> 00:26:02,750 city manager here and that you 697 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:03,470 just for your consideration. 698 00:26:03,470 --> 00:26:03,747 >> when when we thought was 699 00:26:03,747 --> 00:26:06,250 going to go and I don't think 700 00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:09,850 we can really change it too 701 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:10,754 much around anyway just based 702 00:26:10,754 --> 00:26:13,154 on electability we workshop 703 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,260 for housing for this topic 704 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:16,727 SEPTEMBER the 3rd which was 705 00:26:16,727 --> 00:26:19,897 going to be in advance of you 706 00:26:19,897 --> 00:26:23,000 or your first meeting of the 707 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,568 day that meeting that will be 708 00:26:24,568 --> 00:26:28,168 important to you as a workshop 709 00:26:29,473 --> 00:26:30,607 in here you comment public 710 00:26:30,607 --> 00:26:33,607 comment. And then represen to 711 00:26:34,778 --> 00:26:36,130 talk about the power side of 712 00:26:36,130 --> 00:26:36,680 the conversation. Peace 713 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,820 represent what we can talk 714 00:26:38,820 --> 00:26:41,820 about the worst of the 715 00:26:44,388 --> 00:26:45,550 conversation. Made it a dana 716 00:26:45,550 --> 00:26:48,550 this within range from the 717 00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:48,859 outside that window that will 718 00:26:48,859 --> 00:26:51,361 recommend that if you want to 719 00:26:51,361 --> 00:26:52,529 go see one go visit him before 720 00:26:52,529 --> 00:26:55,432 that time. So you're going to 721 00:26:55,432 --> 00:26:58,235 see yourself staff will do the 722 00:26:58,235 --> 00:27:00,337 same and that way down first 723 00:27:00,337 --> 00:27:01,438 time that you'll actually have 724 00:27:01,438 --> 00:27:02,172 some more independent 725 00:27:02,172 --> 00:27:02,874 observations and data in order 726 00:27:02,874 --> 00:27:05,342 to help you mission begin the 727 00:27:05,342 --> 00:27:06,430 topic of conversation. I don't 728 00:27:06,430 --> 00:27:09,643 think even the choose to make 729 00:27:09,881 --> 00:27:11,849 your fertile 31st is going to 730 00:27:11,849 --> 00:27:12,483 impact that in a very negative 731 00:27:12,483 --> 00:27:13,150 way just making sure that 732 00:27:13,150 --> 00:27:15,920 you're aware of it and you 733 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,220 make your decision on your 734 00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:16,921 day. 735 00:27:16,921 --> 00:27:20,521 >> thank you yeah, but it MAY 736 00:27:20,758 --> 00:27:23,628 impacted too with prosser was 737 00:27:23,628 --> 00:27:25,530 the thinking about different 738 00:27:25,530 --> 00:27:26,230 avenues and what what's being 739 00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:27,765 projected to side rather have 740 00:27:27,765 --> 00:27:28,332 more information prior to this 741 00:27:28,332 --> 00:27:30,701 meeting less which is 742 00:27:30,701 --> 00:27:33,701 appreciate that. I want a 743 00:27:35,739 --> 00:27:38,739 motion. Believe in towards the 744 00:27:39,109 --> 00:27:39,777 8 oh I think 745 00:27:39,777 --> 00:27:43,377 >> I make a motion that we 746 00:27:43,481 --> 00:27:44,448 schedule the first on the 31st 747 00:27:44,448 --> 00:27:46,617 at 6 o'clock be a special 748 00:27:46,617 --> 00:27:48,617 meeting. Second. 749 00:27:50,821 --> 00:27:51,489 >> motion on the floor made by 750 00:27:51,489 --> 00:27:53,889 commissioner stokes to have 751 00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:56,994 the first AUGUST 31st at 752 00:27:56,994 --> 00:27:58,994 06:00pm seconded commissioner 753 00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:04,980 pedro. There's nothing to that 754 00:28:15,346 --> 00:28:16,613 please 755 00:28:16,613 --> 00:28:18,449 and passes 3 to myself 756 00:28:18,449 --> 00:28:21,449 and vice mayor dissenting vice 757 00:28:23,488 --> 00:28:27,124 and do yeah and just say if. 758 00:28:27,124 --> 00:28:27,858 >> if we don't take advantage 759 00:28:27,858 --> 00:28:29,159 of for more information and my 760 00:28:29,159 --> 00:28:32,759 concern is we are running on 761 00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:36,300 emotion and not on facts. So 762 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:39,900 I'm way more inclined to go 763 00:28:41,205 --> 00:28:41,939 back to the asa and have an 764 00:28:41,939 --> 00:28:44,175 opportunity to have a workshop 765 00:28:44,175 --> 00:28:45,542 and I would very much like to 766 00:28:45,542 --> 00:28:46,243 visit ahead for scale data 767 00:28:46,243 --> 00:28:49,843 center and see it for myself 768 00:28:50,915 --> 00:28:51,582 have not had that opportunity. 769 00:28:51,582 --> 00:28:52,249 >> and I think it would be 770 00:28:52,249 --> 00:28:55,190 good for all of us to have 771 00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:55,686 that opportunity learn really 772 00:28:55,686 --> 00:28:58,890 important that we make our 773 00:28:58,890 --> 00:29:00,358 decisions based on facts. 774 00:29:00,358 --> 00:29:02,758 >> there would be appropriate. 775 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,662 >> to comment on because 776 00:29:04,662 --> 00:29:05,362 between first and second 777 00:29:05,362 --> 00:29:08,962 reading plenty of time to do 778 00:29:09,767 --> 00:29:11,767 that. 779 00:29:12,136 --> 00:29:13,370 >> politician just commented 780 00:29:13,370 --> 00:29:13,738 on same yeah and now get my 781 00:29:13,738 --> 00:29:14,505 reasons why and then you can 782 00:29:14,505 --> 00:29:18,105 comment on the ticket. If you 783 00:29:19,777 --> 00:29:21,345 choose. No I was on the same 784 00:29:21,345 --> 00:29:22,460 boat of this I wanted more 785 00:29:22,460 --> 00:29:22,746 information prior to that and 786 00:29:22,746 --> 00:29:26,946 one thing I was going to ask 787 00:29:27,184 --> 00:29:28,152 city manager though 788 00:29:28,152 --> 00:29:31,752 >> MAY need to wear prior to 789 00:29:33,825 --> 00:29:34,592 the AUGUST 31st. If get some 790 00:29:34,592 --> 00:29:36,927 not not scheduled workshop or 791 00:29:36,927 --> 00:29:37,294 anything like that would I 792 00:29:37,294 --> 00:29:39,294 would be. 793 00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:43,340 >> available that have on one. 794 00:29:43,340 --> 00:29:43,968 >> time with either some of 795 00:29:43,968 --> 00:29:47,438 these vendors or just a brief 796 00:29:47,438 --> 00:29:47,772 synopsis with the oil and 797 00:29:47,772 --> 00:29:48,439 staff. 798 00:29:48,439 --> 00:29:50,839 >> one-on-one prior to the 799 00:29:51,642 --> 00:29:52,310 31st about any new. Stuff 800 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:55,310 that's coming out, you know 801 00:29:58,715 --> 00:29:59,850 different types technology 802 00:29:59,850 --> 00:30:01,552 that the reason and also with 803 00:30:01,552 --> 00:30:02,420 the onsite visit was I going 804 00:30:02,420 --> 00:30:03,870 to be plans AUGUST if we could 805 00:30:03,870 --> 00:30:06,230 possibly go to the on site 806 00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:08,230 plan. 807 00:30:10,795 --> 00:30:11,462 >> was going to for you to 808 00:30:11,462 --> 00:30:12,129 schedule so you can all go 809 00:30:12,129 --> 00:30:14,529 most like to independently 810 00:30:19,337 --> 00:30:19,670 owned and there. Leaders. 811 00:30:19,670 --> 00:30:20,405 >> the. 812 00:30:20,405 --> 00:30:21,139 >> the independent information 813 00:30:21,139 --> 00:30:21,806 that will commit feel directly 814 00:30:21,806 --> 00:30:24,975 of peace river we will not 815 00:30:24,975 --> 00:30:25,643 have before they come to our 816 00:30:25,643 --> 00:30:27,945 site we have to talk about 817 00:30:27,945 --> 00:30:28,312 what we know as you requested 818 00:30:28,312 --> 00:30:28,459 you the # 819 00:30:28,459 --> 00:30:28,606 # 820 00:30:28,606 --> 00:30:28,754 # 821 00:30:28,754 --> 00:30:28,900 # 822 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:29,490 # 823 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:31,449 to help you in 824 00:30:34,452 --> 00:30:35,253 any way we can I think rivers 825 00:30:35,253 --> 00:30:38,253 and ability to present and 826 00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:39,890 answer questions from you in 827 00:30:39,890 --> 00:30:42,459 the community is going to be 828 00:30:42,459 --> 00:30:42,893 extremely helpful in your 829 00:30:42,893 --> 00:30:43,828 decision MAY. 830 00:30:43,828 --> 00:30:44,462 >> yeah, I understand 831 00:30:44,462 --> 00:30:45,397 commissioner stop saying 832 00:30:45,397 --> 00:30:48,397 >> you know between first and 833 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:50,401 second reading this that other 834 00:30:50,401 --> 00:30:51,135 but you know I'd like to have 835 00:30:51,135 --> 00:30:51,869 information prior to the first 836 00:30:51,869 --> 00:30:52,570 reading is just a front that's 837 00:30:52,570 --> 00:30:55,570 my own personal. Yes, certain 838 00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:59,340 point but. Anybody else got 839 00:31:05,149 --> 00:31:05,850 anything to city attorney. 840 00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:08,850 >> so have this second really 841 00:31:11,221 --> 00:31:13,123 has a temper 842 00:31:13,123 --> 00:31:13,725 >> it's not that's not 10 we 843 00:31:13,725 --> 00:31:16,125 get to another special 844 00:31:19,364 --> 00:31:20,264 meeting. After the 10 days is 845 00:31:20,264 --> 00:31:22,466 a look at what the what the 846 00:31:22,466 --> 00:31:23,701 statute requires is a second 847 00:31:23,701 --> 00:31:25,701 10 days after publication. 848 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,940 Speight. So if we pass time. 849 00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:32,844 >> we could publish it before 850 00:31:32,844 --> 00:31:35,844 frustrating have time. Some of 851 00:31:36,581 --> 00:31:38,981 the title doesn't change 852 00:31:42,487 --> 00:31:45,487 >> changes in joe. If you're 853 00:31:47,392 --> 00:31:50,392 reached. Make that we can 854 00:31:50,862 --> 00:31:51,863 schedule 855 00:31:51,863 --> 00:31:52,463 >> and that would be 856 00:31:52,463 --> 00:31:54,863 throughout the day time 857 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000 meeting specialist because 858 00:31:58,636 --> 00:32:00,972 we're going to do the 31st at 859 00:32:00,972 --> 00:32:04,242 do the daytime on okay look 860 00:32:04,242 --> 00:32:07,242 for a motion for that. 861 00:32:09,313 --> 00:32:10,248 Somebody make a motion. 862 00:32:10,248 --> 00:32:12,116 >> you know make a motion on 863 00:32:12,116 --> 00:32:13,170 the whole the entire just for 864 00:32:13,170 --> 00:32:13,784 the ace of the game for the 865 00:32:13,784 --> 00:32:15,720 secondary make a motion that 866 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,320 the second reading for on the 867 00:32:21,192 --> 00:32:21,859 8. As part of the regular. 868 00:32:21,859 --> 00:32:23,859 Ordinance procedure. Yeah. 869 00:32:26,163 --> 00:32:29,567 >> okay got a motion on the 870 00:32:29,567 --> 00:32:30,267 floor made by commissioner 871 00:32:30,267 --> 00:32:30,902 stokes too confirmed the day 872 00:32:30,902 --> 00:32:34,502 of the a's for the second 873 00:32:34,738 --> 00:32:35,740 reading of the ordinance do I 874 00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:36,574 have second second seconded 875 00:32:36,574 --> 00:32:38,574 by commissioner ponchos 876 00:32:44,615 --> 00:32:45,316 there's nothing to that lead 877 00:32:45,316 --> 00:32:48,316 >> it's good solution by just 878 00:32:50,188 --> 00:32:50,855 0. You know anything else. 879 00:32:50,855 --> 00:32:53,255 City attorney city manager 880 00:32:53,390 --> 00:32:56,390 city clerk. Everything good on 881 00:33:02,801 --> 00:33:05,469 the yeah, I think alright is 5 882 00:33:05,469 --> 00:33:07,869 old. I'm sure meeting. 883 00:33:10,208 --> 00:33:12,900 >> at wheels greece things 884 00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:12,343 that don't belong in the 885 00:33:12,343 --> 00:33:14,343 system. 886 00:33:16,881 --> 00:33:17,548 >> see a lot