[0:13] >> don't [0:15] >> really city we read and a [0:21] good today is wednesday JULY [0:25] 26 is finals ago. We're at the [0:26] city chambers and I call a [0:26] city commission special [0:30] meeting to order. [0:32] Commissioners smiler emerged [0:35] vice mayor like commissioner [0:35] petro there is a core [0:38] PRESIDENT For this made. Also [0:39] part our city manager [0:40] pleasures of the attorney for [0:43] leno city clerk falls we've [0:44] got police and fire chief [0:49] titus in the back. I'm [0:51] requesting participants and [0:51] staff maintain were in the [0:55] throughout this meeting, city [0:58] commission policy 2021 0, 3, [1:01] states attend the show been [1:03] gauging in personal attacks [1:03] and boisterous immaterial [1:08] implants seen profane or was [1:08] conduct. Additionally meeting [1:12] attendees must refrain from [1:14] obscene profane or disorderly [1:14] conduct including hand, [1:19] clapping and yelling and [1:20] similar demonstrations. Always [1:20] disturbs the peace and good [1:24] order the meeting thank you. [1:25] Commissioner dipietro with the [1:26] lead us in the playoffs serve. [1:38] >> united states of stands one [1:40] nation under GOD indivisible [1:40] with liberty and justice for [1:42] all. [1:52] >> thank you sir. To bring the [1:53] commissioner stow seconded by [1:53] vice mayor to approve agenda. [2:06] Please that passes 5 to 0. [2:10] Probably go to court. [2:14] >> robin thomas entail good [2:16] evening commissioners as you [2:18] are all assistance citizen do [2:20] not want any type of data [2:21] center, especially I first [2:23] online in our city you're [2:23] tired angry to continuously [2:24] hear about the lack of [2:26] commercial and industrial [2:28] enterprises. You have rezoned [2:29] our city in such a way that [2:29] you are removing our quality [2:31] of life and right to quiet [2:32] enjoyment. Understand the need [2:34] for change but not at our [2:36] expense. We will rise up and [2:38] do everything we can to ensure [2:39] this doesn't happen. We will [2:40] organize together and use our [2:43] voices and every available way [2:44] order to have our voices heard [2:45] and achieve our ultimate goals [2:48] which puts the citizen [2:49] citizenry and environment [2:51] first there are city organized [2:51] town halls for media [2:55] saturation that will change [2:56] our minds. Commissioners who [2:58] are supposed to represent the [2:59] citizens. We expect you to do [2:59] what is in our best interest [3:05] and that center's or not. [3:06] Carmen miranda commissioner [3:07] posted about center and and [3:09] the fact that he feels he can [3:11] talk about it because he [3:12] didn't sign I agree that [3:13] residents have every right to [3:14] understand how decisions are [3:15] made and that florida's public [3:18] records parts closure are not [3:20] exempt information. However, I [3:21] think important point is ever [3:22] left the question is whether [3:23] discussing important [3:24] information connected to an [3:25] act of economic development [3:31] perspective. Prospect. Process [3:33] runs. Its course serves the [3:37] public interest statue 2 88.0 [3:38] 75 protects more brits it [3:38] protects a couple companies [3:40] plans intentions and interest [3:40] on that and locating or [3:45] expanding in florida because [3:45] the legislature recognized [3:47] that premature disclosure can [3:48] jeopardize projects in place [3:51] communities at a competitive [3:53] disadvantage. Part of a center [3:54] MAY have a legitimate [3:55] expectation that is interest [3:56] in the city remains [3:58] confidential during the [3:59] recruitment phase. Temporary [4:00] that she only does not [4:00] eliminate the club public's [4:03] right to know. It's a late [4:04] disclosure until the process [4:05] reaches a stage for the [4:06] information can be released [4:08] without harming the covid [4:09] company's interest for the [4:09] community's ability to compete [4:12] for economic opportunities. [4:13] Residents deserve [4:14] transparency. They also [4:16] deserve a city that can [4:17] successfully complete compete [4:17] for jobs and investment those [4:20] goals are not mutually. [4:21] Exclusive but they do require [4:25] careful judgment about timing [4:25] its staff and consultants are [4:26] falling all and honoring [4:30] envelop confidentiality [4:31] request. They MAY have limited [4:32] ability to disclose [4:33] information until the [4:34] statutory confidentiality [4:37] period expires for the company [4:37] authorizes release. [4:38] >> the issue is not whether [4:39] information should become [4:40] public the issue is whether it [4:41] should become public before [4:45] the legal process and economic [4:46] development process having [4:47] completed and the broader [4:48] responsibility elected [4:48] officials have when dealing [4:53] with active perspective [4:56] >> thank you moving on to [4:57] general business item a 26 [4:59] dash 9, 6, 8, city manager, [5:03] this is your item. [5:06] >> it is made as discussed a [5:08] possible action regarding the [5:09] 2026 certification of taxable [5:10] value proposed millage [5:13] scheduled days for public [5:14] hearings. We do have a short [5:14] presentation to go through [5:18] with you today and starting. [5:19] There's a lot talk about the [5:21] maximum rate so we are [5:22] recommending to the boy or [5:28] rate of 3 point 7, 6, 6, 7, [5:31] been the same rate since 2021 [5:34] producing revenue that [5:38] 41 million 697. $1000. [5:39] >> you look at the history of [5:40] our millage rate this will be [5:45] the. [5:48] >> year in a row of keeping a [5:48] really great the which is [5:49] probably talk about a little [5:53] bit during our conversation [5:54] earlier today meaning that [5:57] other fully know is that and [5:59] rate is not the only tax or [6:01] fee that the city's control of [6:04] that is the largest one in our [6:06] revenues green one that people [6:08] most associated with so [6:09] keeping the snow rain say to [6:10] this law is in the coffin of [6:13] the rays have increased not [6:14] have increased. Has increased [6:20] in that time period. Looking [6:23] taxable valuation going 2 [6:25] years where we have been on a [6:26] porch swing and we continue [6:28] that way growth of our city [6:32] has been locally nationally we [6:33] have been very much praise for [6:34] the growth in our tax [6:37] violations of our city. We [6:39] know that it can last at the [6:40] same rate forever, but we do [6:41] believe that people are going [6:42] to want to continue to come [6:45] and moved here that is based [6:46] on the quality of life the [6:49] successes that we have and [6:50] will leave by people who [6:52] either moved here 3 years or [6:52] 30 years ago they have seen [6:53] the growth and appreciate [6:57] where we are as I mentioned [7:03] some of the so what the tactic [7:03] proposing is that you are [7:07] allowed to use a role our room [7:11] but raised 3.82 for it to make [7:14] a which is higher than our [7:16] current rate so that would [7:17] bring $42,000 revenue for an [7:22] extra $680,000 wires a [7:23] majority of the vote 3 of the [7:26] 5 of you to do that that means [7:27] you know your that could be [7:28] the starting point of where [7:31] you start to look at how tall [7:34] said some of the cost of going [7:35] to it does need to be able to [7:35] layered approach to the [7:37] situation and not just looking [7:40] all expenses all the time. [7:46] Also the rollback rate as [7:51] possibility as you move role [7:53] that at one and 2% would be [7:56] 4.2 1, 2 or 46.6 million [8:00] dollars for extra 4.9 million [8:01] dollars and that will require [8:01] a two-thirds vote for a battle [8:07] of the board order to pass [8:08] that do have one or that that [8:12] it was does look aggressive [8:13] most likely it is, but I think [8:14] they put that you know that [8:15] you would have rates we would [8:20] have in order to I mean the [8:20] need. Right here. We are [8:29] looking in. But of the [8:30] rollback rate and as you can [8:31] see you know public safety is [8:35] still above that what we look [8:37] at when you look at the [8:38] revenue the current millage in [8:40] the rollback rate when are [8:45] told that you can see the [8:46] public safety fired you is a [8:47] boat that mean that still have [8:48] somebody to go in order to [8:49] make sure that we make up for [8:55] that part of general fund. [8:57] Here you see red that are [8:59] right on my farm your [9:00] division. Police and fire [9:05] making up roughly 89% of the [9:12] actual. So which is the but we [9:13] know that that can't be the [9:13] target of what we're trying to [9:16] accomplish we deal with [9:17] whatever second forward [9:18] everybody an assault or even [9:21] if it doesn't happen so we're [9:23] always trying to make that he [9:26] made today a lot of partners [9:27] should you're deciding how to [9:28] make sure that we could take [9:30] care and tackle this problem [9:31] together as a city and not [9:31] heisley anyone department or [9:40] division. It's a the existing [9:42] service level. Many 0.2 [9:44] million dollars budget [9:46] proposal for 2.3 million [9:47] dozens were 2 million dollars [9:50] in our cip was an additional 4 [9:54] to 46. $1000 totaling 9 e [10:00] 953 million dollars. When you [10:02] get know what poll 2.3 million [10:06] you can see that 802 that was [10:10] through the fire department. [10:13] Then you do services at a [10:16] million dollars a few other [10:17] funds for efficient technology [10:18] city managers and small parks [10:25] and recreation. What this [10:26] right here about 2 dozen that [10:30] up 2.0 72 million dollars. [10:32] Here's where and how we got to [10:35] love 5% of the barn size. The [10:38] problem is it is will be I'm [10:42] in year's exercise a 10%. Even [10:43] though we MAY not take that 2% [10:47] we have to perform exercise by [10:49] by law and you have to publish [10:49] it what you do it you can't [10:53] just do it and keep it to [10:54] yourself so we are going to [10:56] see next how 10% of the budget [11:02] reduction impacts our. [11:03] Services the quality services [11:06] that we provide. It's [11:07] something like I said really [11:11] want to talk about take it out [11:12] exactly what the us to do as [11:15] far I want to use an dealers [11:17] and how we move forward, but [11:18] we we will those conversations [11:20] that I knew back recess from [11:23] recess in AUGUST and SEPTEMBER [11:24] we should have more [11:25] information to share with you [11:27] just a pathway forward. [11:28] Commissioner, a federal region [11:32] earlier not waiting too. Get [11:33] out in front of the things [11:34] that's something that we talk [11:34] about what do. Earlier as [11:41] well. So next steps is of [11:43] course the certifications of [11:46] taxable due to county [11:49] appraiser AUGUST 17 the [11:50] mileage. The estimated [11:51] building of the chain noses [11:52] will happen. SEPTEMBER to be [11:56] your first public. Budget [11:57] hearing meeting attended doing [12:01] that with rate will be and I [12:04] don't is going for to be a [12:05] second public to adopt the [12:11] budget in rates. That is all [12:12] we have the question to the [12:16] board we have. Get into have [12:29] anything. And the budget. Have [12:31] any public not. And all of [12:34] emotion. [12:41] I guess so make it. [12:43] >> moved to direct city [12:47] manager to submit the 2026 [12:48] certificated certificate, a [12:49] taxable value would pose [12:53] millet rate of 3.7 6, 6, 7, [12:54] >> have a motion on the floor [12:56] made commissioner stow's city [12:59] manager to submit the 2026 [13:00] certificate of taxable value [13:01] with the proposed millage rate [13:04] 3.7 6, 6, 7, made by [13:04] commissioner stella seconded [13:06] by vice mayor. [13:07] >> there's nothing to that [13:13] please bow. Passes 5, 0, and [13:15] you know the motion. [13:21] >> for the dates you. [13:22] >> I mean know I move to [13:24] approve the days of SEPTEMBER [13:30] 10th 2026 at 5 oh 01:00pm and [13:31] SEPTEMBER 24th 2026 at 5 oh [13:32] 01:00pm for the budget [13:36] hearings. [13:38] >> motion on the floor made [13:39] vice mayor to approve the [13:41] dates of SEPTEMBER 10th 2026 5 [13:43] oh 01:00pm SEPTEMBER 24th 2026 [13:48] at 5 oh 01:00pm for the budget [13:48] hearings made vice mayor and [13:50] seconded by commissioner [13:59] nothing to that please vote. [14:00] Not pass is 5 to 0 moving on [14:05] to item 26 dash. 0, 4, sitting [14:09] does your [14:11] >> is that JULY 21st meeting [14:15] commission took action [14:16] >> directed the city manager [14:17] schedule a special meeting for [14:18] data center moratorium in the [14:21] month of AUGUST in clearing [14:22] the commissioners I could not [14:24] find a date that all [14:24] commissioners could be present [14:29] in the month of AUGUST so I [14:30] have provided states that the [14:32] majority of the commission can [14:32] be present for you all [14:34] determine what date would work [14:34] best for you or if we should [14:35] push until the SEPTEMBER [14:41] meetings. [14:42] >> and just a reminder. We're [14:44] just discussing that days [14:47] before the meeting in this [14:48] conversation we are not [14:49] discussing any of the unders [14:50] just to set up this meeting so [14:53] commissioner steps. Question [14:56] for seeing that today. Is [15:01] there any impact on. Strength [15:06] of any legal arguments. We [15:10] schedule this like. It's a [15:12] parolee and this week and for [15:13] first week of SEPTEMBER there. [15:16] I mean just that period of [15:21] time. Any on how the court may [15:24] look this. [15:24] >> I don't think it's going to [15:25] have much of a difference [15:30] either way. Commissioner spoke [15:36] up. Admire. [15:37] >> I'm just and and looking my [15:38] calendar we wanted to try to [15:43] adhere to the letter of the [15:45] law. Monday is AUGUST 31st and [15:49] we are all back in we could [15:53] schedule with and still be in [15:55] otherwise my only concern [15:58] would be for city with with [15:59] never done anything like this [16:05] we do have some good examples [16:07] without AUGUST 31st, give you [16:07] enough time to do a good job [16:10] on ordinance. [16:16] >> that's the first. [16:17] >> but that we're looking at [16:18] SEPTEMBER alternative what's [16:20] the difference in the week. [16:22] Think that would be much you [16:28] so that that's anybody else. [16:35] We have the public [16:36] >> it is extremely important [16:37] that any meeting the schedule [16:37] thus far in advance as [16:38] possible. So that public [16:41] comment can the most simple [16:43] public comment can be the most [16:44] important at this time, none [16:45] of the request dealing with [16:45] the disasters have been [16:49] responded to by the city. Rob [16:51] thomas sent good evening [16:52] commissioners with the [16:53] citizens citizens of north [16:54] port would like to first the [16:58] first reading of the or more [16:59] 06:00pm meeting in order to [17:01] allow for full participation [17:02] of the citizens, this is too [17:03] much of an important topic to [17:04] have it held at 10:00am when [17:06] the majority of our citizens, [17:06] our work. Please consider this [17:07] a sense first in your [17:13] decision. Carmen miranda. [17:14] Commissioner posted about this [17:15] is the exact same public [17:17] comment that we received for [17:18] the last one do you want me to [17:22] read into the record again I [17:22] just. [17:25] >> for legality purposes I [17:28] suspect for both commissioner [17:29] about the data center and the [17:30] and the fact that he feels he [17:31] can talk about it because he [17:32] didn't sign it. [17:32] >> I have everybody to [17:36] understand how decisions are [17:41] made in that parks non-exempt [17:42] information. Think an [17:42] important point is that real [17:43] up the question is whether [17:44] discussing information [17:45] connected to an act of [17:46] economic development prospect [17:46] before the statutory process [17:47] runs its course serves the [17:50] public interest. Florida [17:55] statute 2 88.0 7, 5, protects [17:56] more than trade secret to [17:57] protect company's plans [17:58] intentions, an interest [17:59] locating or expanding in [18:03] florida because the legislator [18:03] legislature recognized that [18:04] premature disclosure [18:05] jeopardize projects in place [18:08] communities at a competitive [18:08] disadvantage. [18:10] >> company evaluating front [18:11] center MAY have a legitimate [18:11] expectation that its interest [18:12] in the city remains [18:14] confidential during the [18:15] recruitment face temporary [18:16] mentioning confidentiality [18:19] does not eliminate. The [18:21] public's right to if the [18:21] latest closure until the [18:22] process reaches the stage for [18:24] the information can be [18:25] released without harming the [18:26] company's interest for the [18:26] community's ability to compete [18:29] for economic opportunities. [18:31] residents deserve [18:32] transparency. Deserve city [18:32] that can successfully compete [18:35] for jobs and investment. [18:36] Vessels are not mutually [18:38] exclusive, but they do require [18:41] careful judgment about timing [18:42] if staff and so those are [18:44] honoring about confidentiality [18:45] request, they MAY have limited [18:46] ability to disclose [18:47] information to the statutory [18:48] confidentiality period expires [18:51] where the company authorizes [18:52] release the issue is not [18:53] whether information should [18:54] become public. The issue is [18:56] whether it should be become [18:57] public before the legal [18:58] process and economic [18:59] development process have been [19:01] completed and the broader [19:01] responsibility elected [19:02] officials have been dealing [19:03] with active prospects models [19:08] all there. [19:10] >> all right, I'm going [19:14] request a motion mayor if I is [19:15] a scheduled for 10:00am [19:22] meeting. Which is a problem I [19:23] think I don't any problem with [19:24] public comment to set that [19:27] should be an evening meeting [19:27] so. [19:28] >> you know I don't know how [19:33] we handle if we. You to push [19:34] it out for SEPTEMBER but [19:35] unless we can switch time of [19:38] that meeting from 10 flooded [19:42] before. Well one. [19:44] >> one local city clerk, you [19:45] know when the next meeting [19:47] would be the 6 o'clock that's [19:55] quite a ways down the road. [20:00] >> ok back to city attorney [20:01] delay in that would that have [20:03] any effects to what we're [20:05] trying to do legally I know [20:09] would like to do it as soon as [20:10] possible what that was today [20:14] and it was 22nd, I believe she [20:14] predator. [20:18] >> tell you I think now the [20:21] report about you MAY start [20:24] running into some problems [20:25] there. [20:26] >> we also MAY be suggestions. [20:27] We have the day meeting just [20:28] schedule, a special meeting at [20:28] city managers are paid for [20:29] 06:00pm just for that one [20:32] item. [20:37] >> and we can do [20:44] >> we will [20:45] >> got put down or city [20:46] manager we couldn't be here [20:47] today on the 22nd because we [20:48] have a court about vision [20:49] hearing that's the. Creep into [20:54] that very quickly 22nd that [21:01] we're you being the day [21:02] because to do the opposite [21:05] correct. [21:06] >> now we're talking about not [21:07] waiting until the end of [21:11] SEPTEMBER having it on the [21:12] case. Having a special meeting [21:13] at 6 o'clock you can so what I [21:23] do have a scheduled for right [21:25] now right sitting blocking [21:26] they're saying they keep a [21:29] 10:00am meeting on SEPTEMBER 8 [21:30] regular special meeting at [21:31] 06:00pm for just the one item. [21:32] >> first reading of the [21:39] ordinance. And keep the 22nd [21:41] where is according to I mean [21:42] we've changed to more city [21:45] clerk to where. [21:46] >> we've done our best to do [21:47] it a day and night meeting but [21:52] we have. Donald meetings to [21:53] where it's both daytime and [21:54] both nighttime so why would [21:55] this differ in that category [21:58] we could still the 6 o'clock [21:59] at night and then the 6 [22:00] o'clock in the 20 seconds [22:05] still yes, get it done nothing [22:06] to say. [22:08] >> I don't want to vote you [22:09] the practice I want the past [22:15] before for. Citizen [22:16] consumption we just both not [22:17] that that's even better for [22:21] the citizens. [22:21] >> it's just one of during the [22:22] day which is why you have to [22:23] practice understand that sir. [22:24] I just want [22:34] >> I [22:34] >> the times and do the [22:39] meeting on 8th. At 6 and do [22:41] the meeting on the 20 whatever [22:45] it is at 10 and you what the [22:47] times you know there you can [22:50] even be here for that we can [22:53] do so we won't have the [22:54] official poor you that would [23:03] be or simply schedules second [23:04] reading during a special [23:06] meeting as well to both in a [23:08] special meeting and not have [23:11] to spring all I mean the years [23:12] while there I questions of [23:13] city attorney because I want [23:15] to make sure that there [23:15] wouldn't be any legal [23:16] prejudice in terms of the port [23:20] of but there's also. [23:23] >> the fact that we want this [23:25] before us we don't want this [23:27] can kick down the road for a [23:29] month 2 months 3 months people [23:29] are concerned about this and [23:30] the sooner we address it the [23:34] sooner. In my personal opinion [23:37] we put a moratorium in place [23:38] you're all so if we could do [23:40] it tomorrow, I'd be happy to [23:40] do with them so if earliest is [23:44] the 8th of SEPTEMBER. So be [23:45] it. Let's do a special [23:45] meeting, let's just get it [23:46] done. [23:47] >> mayor if I MAY. [23:52] >> I'll call on [23:58] >> here you've got a city [23:58] preference. [24:01] >> I'm if you want I think the [24:02] vice used to second. We are [24:09] all second meeting morning 10 [24:10] days before publication of the [24:15] final. [24:18] >> it you know be 9 days if [24:23] you how we just thought. [24:24] >> you know it's going to say [24:30] same attorney was that we do [24:32] it in the month of AUGUST so [24:36] plea let's let's stick to [24:36] motions. [24:37] >> and not going all the way [24:40] till SEPTEMBER. Maybe we can [24:43] do it earlier and one of us is [24:43] missing and the quarter was [24:46] there. [24:48] >> and unanimously [24:53] >> the motion so. Percy know [24:58] major changes on hand. As far [25:00] as actual ordinance to the I [25:03] see trying to get isn't [25:04] working. [25:04] >> I see trying to get there [25:08] but with that said you know, [25:09] everybody makes plans and [25:12] stuff like that so if I don't [25:14] think it's fair that we have a [25:15] meeting without full bore I [25:16] don't think it's for I mean we [25:17] have to make concessions to [25:20] where we can meet when [25:21] everybody comey I mean you [25:23] that stuff that you are going [25:24] on. Just met without you it [25:27] wouldn't be fair to you. So we [25:28] that's why we need discuss [25:32] haven't a speeding and in for [25:34] everybody, so commissioner [25:36] vice mayor yeah, I just think [25:37] that this topic is too [25:38] important to not have a full [25:39] board thank [25:41] >> person would work. As a [25:57] city attorney. Which first. [25:57] And this is that need correct [25:58] city manager here and that you [26:02] just for your consideration. [26:03] >> when when we thought was [26:03] going to go and I don't think [26:06] we can really change it too [26:10] much around anyway just based [26:10] on electability we workshop [26:15] for housing for this topic [26:16] SEPTEMBER the 3rd which was [26:16] going to be in advance of you [26:19] or your first meeting of the [26:23] day that meeting that will be [26:24] important to you as a workshop [26:29] in here you comment public [26:30] comment. And then represen to [26:34] talk about the power side of [26:36] the conversation. Peace [26:36] represent what we can talk [26:38] about the worst of the [26:44] conversation. Made it a dana [26:45] this within range from the [26:48] outside that window that will [26:48] recommend that if you want to [26:51] go see one go visit him before [26:52] that time. So you're going to [26:55] see yourself staff will do the [26:58] same and that way down first [27:00] time that you'll actually have [27:01] some more independent [27:02] observations and data in order [27:02] to help you mission begin the [27:05] topic of conversation. I don't [27:06] think even the choose to make [27:09] your fertile 31st is going to [27:11] impact that in a very negative [27:12] way just making sure that [27:13] you're aware of it and you [27:15] make your decision on your [27:16] day. [27:16] >> thank you yeah, but it MAY [27:20] impacted too with prosser was [27:23] the thinking about different [27:25] avenues and what what's being [27:26] projected to side rather have [27:27] more information prior to this [27:28] meeting less which is [27:30] appreciate that. I want a [27:35] motion. Believe in towards the [27:39] 8 oh I think [27:39] >> I make a motion that we [27:43] schedule the first on the 31st [27:44] at 6 o'clock be a special [27:46] meeting. Second. [27:50] >> motion on the floor made by [27:51] commissioner stokes to have [27:55] the first AUGUST 31st at [27:56] 06:00pm seconded commissioner [28:01] pedro. There's nothing to that [28:15] please [28:16] and passes 3 to myself [28:18] and vice mayor dissenting vice [28:23] and do yeah and just say if. [28:27] >> if we don't take advantage [28:27] of for more information and my [28:29] concern is we are running on [28:34] emotion and not on facts. So [28:36] I'm way more inclined to go [28:41] back to the asa and have an [28:41] opportunity to have a workshop [28:44] and I would very much like to [28:45] visit ahead for scale data [28:46] center and see it for myself [28:50] have not had that opportunity. [28:51] >> and I think it would be [28:52] good for all of us to have [28:55] that opportunity learn really [28:55] important that we make our [28:58] decisions based on facts. [29:00] >> there would be appropriate. [29:04] >> to comment on because [29:04] between first and second [29:05] reading plenty of time to do [29:09] that. [29:12] >> politician just commented [29:13] on same yeah and now get my [29:13] reasons why and then you can [29:14] comment on the ticket. If you [29:19] choose. No I was on the same [29:21] boat of this I wanted more [29:22] information prior to that and [29:22] one thing I was going to ask [29:27] city manager though [29:28] >> MAY need to wear prior to [29:33] the AUGUST 31st. If get some [29:34] not not scheduled workshop or [29:36] anything like that would I [29:37] would be. [29:42] >> available that have on one. [29:43] >> time with either some of [29:43] these vendors or just a brief [29:47] synopsis with the oil and [29:47] staff. [29:48] >> one-on-one prior to the [29:51] 31st about any new. Stuff [29:52] that's coming out, you know [29:58] different types technology [29:59] that the reason and also with [30:01] the onsite visit was I going [30:02] to be plans AUGUST if we could [30:03] possibly go to the on site [30:06] plan. [30:10] >> was going to for you to [30:11] schedule so you can all go [30:12] most like to independently [30:19] owned and there. Leaders. [30:19] >> the. [30:20] >> the independent information [30:21] that will commit feel directly [30:21] of peace river we will not [30:24] have before they come to our [30:25] site we have to talk about [30:27] what we know as you requested [30:28] you the # [30:28] # [30:28] # [30:28] # [30:28] # [30:29] to help you in [30:34] any way we can I think rivers [30:35] and ability to present and [30:38] answer questions from you in [30:39] the community is going to be [30:42] extremely helpful in your [30:42] decision MAY. [30:43] >> yeah, I understand [30:44] commissioner stop saying [30:45] >> you know between first and [30:48] second reading this that other [30:50] but you know I'd like to have [30:51] information prior to the first [30:51] reading is just a front that's [30:52] my own personal. Yes, certain [30:56] point but. Anybody else got [31:05] anything to city attorney. [31:05] >> so have this second really [31:11] has a temper [31:13] >> it's not that's not 10 we [31:13] get to another special [31:19] meeting. After the 10 days is [31:20] a look at what the what the [31:22] statute requires is a second [31:23] 10 days after publication. [31:29] Speight. So if we pass time. [31:29] >> we could publish it before [31:32] frustrating have time. Some of [31:36] the title doesn't change [31:42] >> changes in joe. If you're [31:47] reached. Make that we can [31:50] schedule [31:51] >> and that would be [31:52] throughout the day time [31:56] meeting specialist because [31:58] we're going to do the 31st at [32:00] do the daytime on okay look [32:04] for a motion for that. [32:09] Somebody make a motion. [32:10] >> you know make a motion on [32:12] the whole the entire just for [32:13] the ace of the game for the [32:13] secondary make a motion that [32:15] the second reading for on the [32:21] 8. As part of the regular. [32:21] Ordinance procedure. Yeah. [32:26] >> okay got a motion on the [32:29] floor made by commissioner [32:30] stokes too confirmed the day [32:30] of the a's for the second [32:34] reading of the ordinance do I [32:35] have second second seconded [32:36] by commissioner ponchos [32:44] there's nothing to that lead [32:45] >> it's good solution by just [32:50] 0. You know anything else. [32:50] City attorney city manager [32:53] city clerk. Everything good on [33:02] the yeah, I think alright is 5 [33:05] old. I'm sure meeting. [33:10] >> at wheels greece things [33:12] that don't belong in the [33:12] system. [33:16] >> see a lot