[0:00] this up during building. If
[0:01] they do. And towards the coast
[0:03] like billing. That's tough
[0:04] work. They have to stop and
[0:07] redo it again.
[0:08] >> once wildlife is protected
[0:09] the team starts looking at the
[0:10] trees on the property so will
[0:10] we.
[0:12] >> go to our survey we like to
[0:16] verify. Tree sizes or dbh dbh
[0:17] is a diameter at breast height
[0:18] about 54 inches. High on
[0:24] the tree. 0. It's a 15 and a
[0:27] half inches they were. And so
[0:28] that's consider protect the
[0:31] tree. In the city and
[0:32] therefore we have class where
[0:35] trees is protected or heritage
[0:39] protected is from 12 inches to
[0:42] 23 in 7 8th diameter right and
[0:42] what it's 24 inches that's
[0:43] considered a heritage and
[0:47] anything below. 12 inches.
[0:47] >> it's not considered
[0:48] protected. I want to know how
[0:49] joe got into this kind of
[0:51] work. Why he cares so much
[0:52] about it. Originally from
[0:55] pittsburgh down zoo keeper
[0:57] school up and and the
[0:58] gainesville santa fe can
[1:01] cause, but then I learned more
[1:02] florida so being think
[1:07] beaches. Learned flores more
[1:08] than just that and so what the
[1:09] university of florida to get
[1:11] my bachelors in well as
[1:11] coaching conservation
[1:12] and then pursue masters and
[1:14] ecological restoration so just
[1:17] love florida, you know the
[1:17] habitats in florida and I also
[1:20] like it because we can also
[1:21] conserve unsafe, we'll
[1:22] continue to build 2. We can 2
[1:26] things at once without having
[1:27] a discrepancy the other so we
[1:30] can continue to build as you
[1:32] see with feel safe tortoises.
[1:33] yes we can make sure
[1:34] everything is safe and will
[1:35] preserve cover after that
[1:35] first visit and what the law
[1:39] is selectively cleared. The
[1:40] office stepped in to focus on
[1:41] the trees that can be safe. So
[1:41] you
[1:42] see here. These trees with the
[1:44] ribbon on him. Those are
[1:48] proposed to be saved and.
[1:49] >> they are you see this
[1:52] beautiful understory of saw
[1:53] palmetto. It's going to be a
[1:54] nice little area. Yeah, yeah
[1:59] exposure to natural setting
[1:59] for the for the homeowner and
[2:01] that's what we're going for
[2:03] one of the things we value
[2:06] and north port is love of
[2:06] trees and so this one is
[2:07] outside of the building
[2:10] footprint up here in the
[2:12] corner and was able to be
[2:13] conserved and you can see.
[2:17] It's been out in the woods.
[2:20] For all this time throughout
[2:21] its life. And it's it's got
[2:23] vines hanging off of it and
[2:24] with some minimal a proper
[2:25] pruning this is going to be
[2:31] just a beautiful tree. We come
[2:32] here and do an inspection to
[2:35] make to make sure the trees
[2:36] are properly excluded from the
[2:37] construction area because no
[2:39] phil on top of the critical
[2:39] root zone.
[2:41] >> which can impact a tree.
[2:42] You know in a negative way
[2:47] obviously. We see of obviously
[2:48] the tree is above ground but
[2:49] there's a whole network of
[2:51] routes below ground that we
[2:52] want to also make protected
[2:57] jeremy this is more than just
[2:57] checking boxes.
[2:58] >> it's about the future of
[2:59] the city and its environment
[2:59] I've been an environmental
[3:01] work, I went to school for
[3:02] environmental work, so it's
[3:03] something that I took on it
[3:05] and very you know an early
[3:05] age. And here in
[3:09] port. I was. You know
[3:10] lucky enough to be an
[3:13] arborist. And we really want
[3:18] to see the value and I see the
[3:18] value.
[3:21] >> and in the city in the and
[3:23] the environment making sure
[3:25] there's that balance between
[3:29] development and environmental
[3:29] protection.
[3:31] >> and trees is a big part of
[3:35] that right there's a
[3:39] >> today is thursday SEPTEMBER
[3:40] 2020 06:00pm where is
[3:41] chamber's commission workshop
[3:44] meeting to order.
[3:45] Commissioners present are
[3:49] MISTER Mayor mayor and there's
[3:53] a poor PRESIDENT For this
[3:53] meeting city manager
[3:58] fletcher's city attorney
[3:59] review. Possible, especially
[3:59] when police chief there isn't
[4:05] a fire chief titus.
[4:06] Participants a staff meeting
[4:11] or the cones are of meeting
[4:12] was that there 3 states that
[4:17] can't be show first of all
[4:18] types a material plant or
[4:23] seems more disorderly conduct.
[4:25] Additionally candies must
[4:26] refrain from looking
[4:31] disorderly conduct, including
[4:32] similar demonstrations. It's
[4:32] just there's the peas and to
[4:33] order to thank you.
[4:38] Is a sameness she would lead
[4:52] in the
[4:57] to all.
[5:10] >> well we get into the actual
[5:11] present patients. Can make a
[5:12] suggestion. I'm sure we have a
[5:15] lot of people here are nation
[5:22] that will tonight. We have
[5:30] external presenters hold them
[5:35] like to put
[5:36] >> anyone who wants to speak
[5:38] before the here in the world.
[5:43] We would hear those.
[5:49] >> but any of our voice public
[5:53] comments or those just kind of
[5:55] move things along a little bit
[5:58] and into the to prevent
[6:00] patients. As soon possible so.
[6:04] Yes, yeah. Kind of put it the
[6:05] same
[6:14] for in person public motion
[6:15] that we suspend all the same
[6:15] number 2021 dash
[6:19] 0, 5,
[6:23] >> and here are all general
[6:23] comments.
[6:24] >> and voice mails at the end
[6:29] of the meeting.
[6:38] >> I have a motion on door
[6:41] made by and second by
[6:43] commissioner duval. There's
[6:53] anything to that. Fallen to 0.
[6:55] Ok moving in-person public
[7:02] comment.
[7:07] >> for the scene.
[7:29] >> good evening. My name is
[7:30] jenna and it costs live in
[7:30] port and yes I did something a
[7:33] little things to get in. I
[7:36] read resubmitted application
[7:37] full disclosure I'm active
[7:40] certified public last time I
[7:42] stood here showed you
[7:43] application that contradicted
[7:46] itself. Well apparently we're
[7:48] doing this again you know. The
[7:53] masks still medicine. MAY not
[7:54] have a staples, but we can
[7:58] match numbers across documents
[8:00] city staff specifically
[8:01] require applicant to reconcile
[8:04] 2 different projects sizes.
[8:06] Applicant responded that the
[8:07] plans have been corrected to
[8:08] 896,000 square feet. Except
[8:14] they weren't. The recent
[8:16] utility plans repeatedly
[8:19] identified buildings as 1137
[8:22] 1000. Rick 921 square feet
[8:24] each I don't you do the mental
[8:25] math, but that's essentially
[8:29] the whole project square
[8:30] footage, not the suppose it
[8:35] corrected 896,000. And my
[8:38] personal favorite, 100 utility
[8:42] she identifies building number
[8:45] 4 1 million 137 thousand 920
[8:45] square feet. I hope that's a
[8:48] typo. But was it the city's
[8:52] job to catch it. This is the
[8:55] recent mission. And there's
[8:56] more staff told the applicant
[9:00] its title information was
[9:01] outdated that response is the
[9:03] revised title is in progress
[9:05] asking to move beyond
[9:09] sufficiency meanwhile, 2021.
[9:11] Land titles serving references
[9:11] the public records of
[9:15] miami-dade county. Ice.
[9:16] >> this properties in sarasota
[9:18] county.
[9:20] >> what the florida. Then
[9:24] there's the water. The entire
[9:28] calculations starts with one
[9:29] basic assumption. This data
[9:33] center equals exactly 100 er
[9:35] seas. But I could not find the
[9:36] product project specific
[9:40] support calculation for that
[9:41] starting number on which every
[9:45] subsequent calculation is
[9:47] based. I cannot find the
[9:48] cooling technology or the
[9:50] industrial process
[9:51] assumptions.
[9:54] >> the city specifically
[9:55] requested in lot being that's
[9:57] called unsupported assertion.
[9:59] In 2026. That's trust me
[10:06] brown. These plans claim
[10:12] 15,500 potable gallons per day
[10:13] yet they also include a half
[10:14] million gallons per day
[10:17] wastewater treatment plant.
[10:21] We've all experienced a a slop
[10:23] but these documents were per
[10:24] pair riverview and submit
[10:29] humans. Twice. So the original
[10:31] application contradicts
[10:34] itself. So does the re
[10:36] submission. Port residents are
[10:39] expected to get the details
[10:40] right for fence should surely
[10:42] a project of this to the
[10:42] scene.
[10:57] >> thank you
[10:59] >> hello good evening. My name
[11:00] actually survive and I'm here
[11:01] today to express my opposition
[11:02] to centers in north port
[11:04] florida. The negative health
[11:08] effects created by them. The
[11:09] american lung association
[11:10] reported increase air
[11:10] pollution due to electricity
[11:14] demand for by U.S. Centers
[11:15] where they not at all
[11:17] particulate matter and other
[11:17] harmful chemicals linked to
[11:18] asthma heart disease and
[11:23] premature death. Research by
[11:25] virginia commonwealth
[11:25] university estimates provision
[11:27] contributing to 1300 premature
[11:31] deaths, annually by 2030 would
[11:31] you really be able to live
[11:32] yourself knowing that you
[11:36] contributed to this tragedy.
[11:37] These data centers acquire
[11:38] several pieces of technology
[11:39] that are known to be sources
[11:42] of people ask her forever
[11:43] chemicals. Think the cancer
[11:44] reproductive immune
[11:45] dysfunction and many other
[11:49] adverse health effects. On top
[11:50] of all this centers and then
[11:52] for sound and ultrasonic noise
[11:53] frequencies outside of our
[11:58] what impact sleep. Stress
[12:00] mental health, covid
[12:01] incompetent performance. They
[12:04] also produce low frequency,
[12:06] humans have prolonged exposure
[12:08] can not only productivity, but
[12:10] also impair the immune system
[12:11] stress concentrations and even
[12:14] respiratory and heart disease
[12:16] with all this do really think
[12:16] worth putting us your
[12:17] constituents through this
[12:20] struggle. We got here for some
[12:23] monday to express that no. We
[12:24] don't want to center willing
[12:26] to stand up for that. And now
[12:27] we're here today to do the
[12:30] same. Do you think on this and
[12:31] consider not just smart but
[12:40] all of our viewers. Thank you.
[12:44] When is on
[12:45] the
[12:46] >> I believe live in the U.S.
[12:52] In port. But little those it
[12:52] was a quite beautiful found
[12:56] this a lot of being that
[13:00] >> every has been a that there
[13:01] is a debate that sent the
[13:04] supposed to be but what about
[13:07] in house it.
[13:07] >> I was just thinking that
[13:11] the and the muhls because I
[13:13] really don't want believe in
[13:18] why I came wgn also 72 of the
[13:21] nature and not coming same in
[13:24] that studio that's not for me
[13:27] that's not my choice, it's not
[13:31] everything is money. Have
[13:31] remember is that while it
[13:36] looks actually it. Surprise
[13:40] and I
[13:42] >> have a chance see any due
[13:42] diligence information from his
[13:46] practice.
[13:49] >> elise what does it it
[13:49] should be included in this
[13:56] that. Principal that fact
[14:00] spectrum expect environmental
[14:07] and assessment. Start with. It
[14:11] tickled utility pass to
[14:11] spending. What embraced what
[14:16] impact of that is is. And then
[14:16] imagine cities spots
[14:20] assessing. Wallets and we
[14:25] should assessment.
[14:26] Environmental impact on nearby
[14:28] and the life. It's just very
[14:33] important. That actually
[14:41] impact that's morris. I'm not
[14:41] talking because some of the
[14:45] tests will support all of this
[14:50] and I like fly. Delays but it
[14:52] can everything about this and
[14:54] before moving for about and
[15:02] decision.
[15:08] >> U.S..
[15:18] >> good evening commissioners
[15:24] go residents. African
[15:25] proposing a development that
[15:27] includes a 7 building data
[15:31] huts. It already have invested
[15:34] a substantial amount of money.
[15:38] Planning and development.
[15:38] We're now with the possible
[15:40] lawsuits. We get to this
[15:45] point. I'm not surprised the
[15:46] current uldc is open to many
[15:55] possible lawsuits. No wonder
[15:59] one of the concerns that major
[16:03] land use decisions appear have
[16:06] been driven by staff
[16:06] recommendations without
[16:08] earlier from the residence
[16:11] property realtors and bill liz
[16:12] worked directly affected by
[16:17] them. When comes real world
[16:22] example recently had called
[16:23] the realtor just sold a big
[16:23] part the area of new you will
[16:28] the sea breeze rezone to
[16:29] commercial I asked I asked
[16:29] what the virus does have that
[16:32] the bill there. Response was
[16:33] yeah want to build a single
[16:37] family home. The biden family
[16:38] didn't even realize the
[16:39] property have been rezoned
[16:41] commercial. They know who the
[16:47] rover of the city. This isn't
[16:51] an isolated problem. Here's an
[16:53] example of an which took it
[16:58] right minute, you know. They
[17:05] too. Public descriptions they
[17:07] say around by florida's wesley
[17:09] is this is commercial area.
[17:11] It's been 2 years since the
[17:14] uldc there's better effect.
[17:19] Why hasn't the city. Directly
[17:22] with no real associations to
[17:23] make sure everyone there in
[17:25] this area understands is only
[17:26] years. Should know what they
[17:27] can and cannot build before
[17:33] purchase of property. In a
[17:36] section of eastern portion of
[17:36] a seat there is the
[17:38] established area continue
[17:40] number existing single go.
[17:43] Yeah, the new uldc has that
[17:44] mandate that commercial
[17:51] development. That doesn't make
[17:52] sense reaction from those
[17:52] borders when someone
[17:53] eventually proposes that
[17:54] commercial development next
[18:01] door. Property id's old.
[18:02] Finally we need much industry
[18:02] involvement before making
[18:05] major way in use decisions are
[18:09] recommended I advisory
[18:13] committee made up local
[18:15] residents, property realtors
[18:16] and local home particularly
[18:17] the builders to construct
[18:20] single polls.
[18:23] >> one individual
[18:32] >> thank
[18:33] >> came to worse for the
[18:34] record. Use my glasses because
[18:35] you can't hand writing and I
[18:39] myself use ai.
[18:42] >> we have problem with this
[18:43] recent data center application
[18:47] in the nba involved. The
[18:47] majority of the residents have
[18:50] lost all trust in with our
[18:51] city government. Yes, the nba
[18:52] was legal and the developer
[18:55] every right to request one
[18:56] city policy was followed
[18:58] instead following proper
[18:59] procedure. But to many
[19:00] residents things are just not
[19:04] adding up. It based trust and
[19:05] the people who represent and
[19:08] the stand that taxpayers fund
[19:10] their staffers. It's just not
[19:10] that that is issue there are
[19:11] other issues that have been
[19:13] building up throughout the
[19:14] years. I can offer examples
[19:16] but that's not the point of my
[19:17] speech my point is to least
[19:21] start the conversation on how
[19:21] fix this.
[19:22] >> with the people, I'm happy
[19:25] with everything yes there
[19:26] always will let the
[19:26] commissioners to represent a
[19:30] 100% of the population, I've
[19:31] been asking since 2024, but we
[19:33] need to have a town hall style
[19:35] meeting where commissioners
[19:37] staff and residents can have
[19:39] meaningful dialogue and honest
[19:39] conversation and not the
[19:42] politically correct talking
[19:43] points. So is that senator is
[19:44] the straw that broke the
[19:48] camel's back we can start of
[19:49] that and honest timeline of
[19:50] the events from order for
[19:52] poland's first contacted the
[19:53] city looking for property to
[19:56] develop up till today be a
[19:59] perfect solution probably not
[20:02] but it's a start ready to the
[20:03] relationship with the city and
[20:04] a 100% of the residents has to
[20:05] improve otherwise the future
[20:08] of the city is at stake. This
[20:10] is not to blame one side or
[20:11] any other side will always
[20:11] have different points of view
[20:14] on how something should be
[20:15] done. But that's okay there's
[20:16] always there should always be
[20:20] 2 sides. It's a relationship
[20:22] with the different opinions
[20:24] that need to for me I've
[20:26] already given the compromise
[20:27] speech but it needs to be
[20:28] taken seriously this time and
[20:48] more important and that stand.
[20:48] >> my
[20:51] >> name is liz I've done that
[20:52] visiting here for 13 years, 10
[20:57] of them happy. Then I watched
[20:58] 3 years of the deterioration
[20:59] that we're watching I was a
[21:00] member of court friends of
[21:03] wildlife. I think at this
[21:04] point we need a north port
[21:04] friends of human life.
[21:11] I won't repeat the obvious
[21:11] negative issues they've been
[21:13] said over and over again, but
[21:14] I want to do is give you a
[21:15] background of how very close
[21:19] yorkshire property is from my
[21:23] residents guard inside a
[21:23] neighborhood. Cards 6 and a
[21:24] half miles as the crow flies,
[21:29] it's about 4. So this location
[21:34] or to preserve areas. To the
[21:36] north east of we have the
[21:38] orange wildlife management
[21:41] area, 5800 acres. It's a part
[21:44] of preserved purchased by the
[21:44] state to prevent residential
[21:51] development. 3 miles from this
[21:55] property. The yorkshire
[21:56] kapnick helps to form what is
[21:58] conservation cart. We have
[22:04] life those this area collects
[22:06] heavy rainfall that helps to
[22:07] supply what ports clean
[22:14] drinking the rest was
[22:15] currently it's a remote
[22:21] pristine area expect far over
[22:24] 200 interconnected wet. Dear
[22:26] bob like sand hill cranes
[22:27] crested care care black bears
[22:29] uk janell again for now to the
[22:35] east of the property. Is the.
[22:39] Are the great thing. It was
[22:43] purchased and manage and get
[22:48] this, it's managed peace river
[22:49] manasota regional water supply
[22:53] likely the speakers. Perch is
[22:57] to protect regional water
[22:57] resources. It has drinking
[22:58] water reservoir. Drinking
[23:03] water. It has you know and
[23:07] what happened. Cater is it a
[23:10] as active cattle ranch. And a
[23:17] texan. Cattle rancher. Had a
[23:17] data center open next to all
[23:24] we can coming out still I'm
[23:28] guessing the wildlife used to
[23:29] see has relocated and this
[23:30] city manager and the
[23:34] commissioners have done some
[23:34] and track to building but this
[23:35] is outrageous. This is the
[23:38] epitome of destruction. I like
[23:40] thank you for bringing to my
[23:43] attention that I have 2. I
[23:46] know what we trust you. And I
[23:47] have to remain on high alert
[23:53] from now
[24:04] >> followed
[24:10] >> everybody chamber. For all
[24:19] the public speakers. Still
[24:19] more
[24:20] >> I've been hearing that for
[24:25] quite some time now.
[24:26] >> we have real problem with
[24:33] wall. I coined the phrase last
[24:34] 8 and a half years ago it's
[24:34] called for water quality
[24:40] crisis. It's a lot more
[24:43] serious most of you think.
[24:44] Because you're so disconnected
[24:45] from reality.
[24:50] >> not serious way
[24:50] disconnected
[24:56] >> from reality.
[24:59] >> we have all these college
[25:00] education this is at the and
[25:03] all these corporations and
[25:05] experts and everything. Except
[25:13] life itself. Reiterate this to
[25:15] you right now because this
[25:16] does for all 67 counties every
[25:22] city. You're going to getting
[25:25] letters of intent to sue.
[25:31] Because. So charlotte county
[25:31] on the 3rd year in the new
[25:38] york shire neighborhood.
[25:38] >> knew the city parts in the
[25:40] city of I don't want
[25:48] >> staff anywhere. Nuclear
[25:58] power facility build. You say
[25:58] you will is water from toilet
[26:09] to tap. Still ledbetter
[26:15] government. We don't care
[26:16] about the corporations anymore
[26:18] we the governor wants to be
[26:20] for the quality of life for
[26:24] the citizens. Commissioner
[26:24] dimitri stay with very
[26:25] eloquently at the last
[26:34] meeting. Water. Southwest
[26:34] florida water management
[26:37] district. Doesn't know what
[26:50] doing. So the regional water
[26:52] supply. I told numbers have
[26:53] for a long time started with
[27:02] director patrick lehman. They
[27:03] operates daily in the
[27:18] reservoir. Thank you.
[27:22] >> hey good evening, everybody
[27:23] council my name is samuel are
[27:26] standing at this podium to
[27:28] deliver yet another reality
[27:30] into the representatives this
[27:31] time from florida power light
[27:34] in the water authorities and
[27:34] this commission we're here to
[27:35] talk about infrastructure
[27:39] demand. So let's look at the
[27:39] actual yeah, state's
[27:40] electrical grid is facing a
[27:45] t-minus shark show prices our
[27:51] barely scratches a b minus a
[27:53] structural deficit for a
[27:55] massive power hyper data
[27:58] center introduce absolute and
[28:01] said they're react lets talk
[28:07] about the we're standing set
[28:15] entirely on top stop. Of it.
[28:18] Utility infrastructure on a
[28:21] carts are accidental threat to
[28:24] the state and seismic shift in
[28:26] structure any severe hurricane
[28:27] event will cause an immediate
[28:31] catastrophic directly lake
[28:32] district in the drinking water
[28:36] for 10 million people. These
[28:37] data center conglomerate want
[28:38] us to believe that operate in
[28:44] the to go back to it. The
[28:45] meant energy are stations and
[28:48] the massive growing plants
[28:49] require millions of gallons
[28:52] every single day just to from
[28:54] acting doubt where do you
[28:57] think that coming from where
[29:00] sitting here right strict
[29:02] based water extreme shortages
[29:05] every day essential restricted
[29:06] other private wells because
[29:06] our water supplies desperately
[29:11] gasping for survival. We do to
[29:14] keep our court center's cool
[29:18] we barely have to sustain
[29:20] communities. You're trying
[29:24] sacrifice our resources and
[29:30] danger public safety rivian's
[29:33] just a security alert at the
[29:36] time open to must protect
[29:39] entire because is no location
[29:40] within the state to
[29:43] post-season test your utility
[29:46] assistance. Court. Takeover of
[29:46] our weather at this podium,
[29:49] the citizens of newark you
[29:52] know, sound note and have my
[30:05] time. Thank you
[30:20] >> you
[30:27] they are.
[30:28] >> commissioners city staff.
[30:33] So the sense. Once upon a time
[30:36] in the sun, the city.
[30:37] >> call for a growing
[30:42] community lives. But the
[30:43] leaders could never borrow a
[30:46] single coin for new projects.
[30:47] Unless most of the townspeople
[30:51] hold it while yes. Decades
[30:55] past that town grew bigger.
[30:56] That the roads bridges and
[31:00] canals aged and development of
[31:00] neighboring communities sped
[31:08] ahead. Because 92% port's
[31:09] treasure chest came only from
[31:11] the pockets of homeowners.
[31:11] Life after less and less
[31:15] affordable. The leaders kept
[31:18] asking for more coins. That
[31:19] frustrated townspeople kept
[31:24] shouting. Heck no. Or appear
[31:28] at the cave-in skate.
[31:28] Dissenters and this was called
[31:35] plan a. These giant keepers
[31:36] promise to shower that have
[31:37] with goal to fix broken roads
[31:39] and restore canals lowering
[31:43] the tax burden. All local
[31:44] families and restoring
[31:47] affordability. Yet many
[31:51] citizens still half now. So I
[31:53] asked the leaders and the
[31:55] citizens tonight. What is plan
[32:04] b. What is plan b. The
[32:11] homeowner plan b. The play is
[32:11] turned away. Residents will
[32:15] pay far coins. While receiving
[32:18] far fewer services. A true
[32:21] fiscal death spiral. Replacing
[32:23] the leaders. Well correct the
[32:26] problem. Only a shift and
[32:30] wished him well. Involving
[32:32] strong commercial partners.
[32:34] It's the fastest way to keep
[32:38] our town affordable. I urge
[32:41] leaders to welcome this data
[32:42] center. But do not hand over a
[32:46] blank sit chat. Right smart
[32:50] protect its rules into the
[32:53] tire to garner woods waters
[32:53] without scaring the data
[32:58] center away. We do not have to
[33:01] choose between protecting our
[33:02] city and security and
[33:04] affordable future. With the
[33:08] right balance. We can coexist
[33:11] and thrive together. Let's
[33:20] make plan a work. Thank you
[33:35] >> us minerals.
[33:40] >> good evening and thank you
[33:41] for the opportunity to speak
[33:44] to you tonight. I'm either for
[33:49] or against this development.
[33:50] But I do have some questions
[33:51] that I hope will be answered
[33:51] by some of our guest speakers
[33:56] tonight. And if I have these
[33:58] questions. My hope is that you
[33:58] also have these questions and
[34:01] have thought ahead and we'll
[34:04] find out the answers to these
[34:05] questions before you approve
[34:08] any development of this size.
[34:15] My first question relates to.
[34:15] Any large structure is going
[34:18] to require a lot of power to
[34:21] operate, especially in our
[34:22] climate because air
[34:23] conditioning eats a lot of
[34:24] power. So one question I would
[34:29] have is has anyone consider
[34:30] requiring solar panels and
[34:34] battery systems for
[34:37] development or any large
[34:38] commercial building over a
[34:38] certain size and what that
[34:40] size should be that's up to
[34:45] you all. But I think having
[34:50] put such a system on all. You
[34:50] know we don't want to turn
[34:54] into another texas where our
[34:54] power grid fails every time
[34:57] there's a storm and GOD knows
[35:00] in florida we get on so that's
[35:04] one question I have. The
[35:04] questions I have relate to
[35:08] water. Does this possible
[35:11] water. For coolant it's only
[35:13] going to be used for coolant
[35:15] what does it have to be
[35:15] treated water. That's one
[35:22] question. Another question is
[35:22] is the developer required to
[35:25] inform you and pass what
[35:26] chemicals would be added to
[35:29] the cooler water. And I'm sure
[35:30] there will be chemicals added
[35:31] to that water because I had
[35:32] chemicals to my own
[35:35] condensation. System in mild
[35:37] air conditioning system. So
[35:40] that's line doesn't grow and
[35:41] other contaminants that might
[35:46] clog the system. And the last
[35:47] question and this is one of
[35:50] those. You know I've worked in
[35:52] government for 40 years. I get
[35:55] it I really do. But you've got
[36:00] to think beyond tomorrow. What
[36:00] happens if and when that
[36:04] cooling system fails.
[36:08] >> any of the
[36:08] >> of that treated water that
[36:10] chemical filled water, ends up
[36:16] on the ground. As I have now
[36:18] heard so close to the supplies
[36:23] of our drinking water.
[36:24] >> 10 years down the road 20
[36:25] years down the road 50 years
[36:28] down the road when that data
[36:29] center is no longer a viable
[36:32] concern. Because technology is
[36:37] changing that quickly. What
[36:38] happens to the hundreds of
[36:42] millions of gallons. Of now
[36:43] contaminated water in the
[36:58] cooling system. Thank you man.
[36:59] >> I wasn't going to speak
[37:04] this evening, but you know
[37:05] what eu commissioners need to
[37:06] and rage of his title mayor
[37:07] recalling a citizen monday
[37:11] evening. It's for you too and
[37:12] it's all facebook how
[37:15] unprofessional. And then you
[37:18] try to deny it. I have no
[37:24] respect for you. And you know
[37:26] know that the sooner we don't
[37:28] need just put this on
[37:29] restriction for water and then
[37:30] you want to build a data
[37:32] center does make sense that
[37:33] anybody does he know it does
[37:38] it. I don't know I don't even
[37:39] know how guys take
[37:40] commissioner because it
[37:41] doesn't make sense not
[37:43] representing this. It is poor.
[37:48] I'm disappointed. If you
[37:49] that's a mask. We don't need
[37:58] just get rid of all it.
[38:04] >> us. Good evening, everyone
[38:09] like glad to see everybody
[38:10] here tonight, not quite as big
[38:11] problem was the other night so
[38:12] the crowd. So thank you all
[38:12] for show.
[38:15] So one thing that you want to
[38:19] say is that. Commissioners you
[38:20] guys are the reason we're here
[38:21] right now you're the reason
[38:22] that all these people are
[38:23] upset that staff. It's not
[38:27] anybody else's fault, but
[38:28] yours you guys want to change
[38:29] the uldc allowing all this
[38:30] stuff going on the way you
[38:34] guys a lot money not supposed
[38:35] know that the state's be able
[38:40] to do that. But it's it's
[38:41] still song. I think should be
[38:41] open to the public we'll see
[38:45] what's coming of the city
[38:45] before. Before it even
[38:46] approved plans we've been
[38:54] submitted to the city. Desk
[38:56] definitely against so seen
[38:59] firsthand the water
[39:00] consumption. If you do your
[39:01] own research talk to some of
[39:02] these other jurisdictions that
[39:03] have these data centers the
[39:08] close systems. There's way
[39:09] more water and more being used
[39:10] because of these data systems
[39:17] than what's being told are.
[39:19] Just for example, there's one
[39:21] works on the capitol and this
[39:22] I think 12 minutes or
[39:23] something somebody just to
[39:25] banks along or to go that's
[39:26] the law. Take 1.6 million
[39:29] gallons of water fell. I think
[39:33] that 1.6 million gallons of
[39:35] water bill. These are going
[39:40] use any more than one owner of
[39:41] that's ridiculous it wasn't a
[39:43] one 0.6 million gallons of
[39:43] water feel what you feel that
[39:47] that is 3 times before you a
[39:48] final field because you got
[39:50] flush all charities inside of
[39:50] it before you can use that
[39:59] water for a final. Finally is.
[40:01] A couple things also the water
[40:02] is not only being used by the
[40:03] and I think about the
[40:03] electricity and stuff that you
[40:06] have to produce for that water
[40:11] has to plant. So we're using a
[40:15] lot water back that all up on.
[40:16] So there is the study's you
[40:17] guys will the research and
[40:20] stuff and all it is not fair
[40:21] to the citizens to have this
[40:24] noise and stuff in the area.
[40:25] We want to say he just the
[40:31] units that think about there's
[40:31] 1200 o k 1200 compressors
[40:32] running these killers.
[40:38] Alright. On top of that
[40:39] present when the chargers 2400
[40:40] that are just to keep those
[40:45] compresses goal. So that noise
[40:46] and stuff in the neighborhood
[40:47] and yes you can experienced it
[40:54] myself so, and it was just say
[40:54] that again it's it's your ball
[40:58] and I. That's all I can and I
[41:01] just wish you guys to do a
[41:01] better job, I've only here for
[41:06] 3 years.
[41:06] >> a lot sure.
[41:31] >> but
[41:32] >> have been a resident of not
[41:34] work for 20 years bus. And I
[41:38] like they are patient of the
[41:39] care that you guys have a life
[41:40] and the residents of this
[41:44] city. And it's very upset.
[41:44] You're on the go between 2 and
[41:47] anything that happens here and
[41:48] everything that happens with
[41:49] all the buyouts and layoffs
[41:52] and all the court agree. We
[41:53] just want to live. It happened
[41:56] here in this country. In this
[41:56] city where we've been at it
[41:59] for many years. I don't
[42:00] understand this whole race to
[42:02] ai to begin with. Race against
[42:04] china for a lot. What's the
[42:08] race for. What do we
[42:09] accomplish in this race and
[42:14] what's the goal of this race.
[42:14] Number one number 2 why is it
[42:15] that money is one of the life
[42:18] and health. We live in a
[42:20] society now where we can't
[42:20] even food honestly, that's
[42:26] good for us. System makes more
[42:27] money. All the sick people
[42:29] than they do all the healthy
[42:29] people that's what are the
[42:32] worst medical situation world.
[42:34] I don't understand why people
[42:34] can understand you have
[42:37] families too. You want to
[42:38] bring you take the same bar.
[42:45] Goes northeast to southwest.
[42:50] So have and they eastern end
[42:51] of the city is going to
[42:51] directly the whole city events
[42:55] but if there's any problems.
[42:56] Understand a lot the cities
[42:57] that had problems with and
[42:59] they do contain water system
[43:00] that doesn't draw from the
[43:02] apple contain sista they still
[43:09] that were just want to use
[43:11] it's post for all time that is
[43:13] to affect drinking water
[43:15] potable water. That's just a
[43:16] bizarre wells are effect from
[43:17] the construction going on the
[43:18] north and east end as it is
[43:22] through the rest of the state.
[43:24] Electrical we know that this
[43:25] processing plant that they're
[43:26] talking about building is
[43:30] going easily double to supply
[43:31] electricity at your city is
[43:31] able to provide great now for
[43:32] the residents that live here
[43:34] in the city. Our city is one
[43:35] of the largest cities in the
[43:36] state if not the largest city
[43:39] of where my letter. It's not
[43:40] do that. Yeah I think you're
[43:40] 20 years and seeing the
[43:43] buildup of crazy. What about
[43:44] city and future use for all
[43:48] residents number one. And
[43:50] number 2 all these
[43:51] transformers that are around
[43:52] everywhere up in the air we've
[43:53] yet to start putting all of
[43:54] our wires underground to
[43:55] protect them from the left
[43:56] from power problems and storms
[43:59] and hurricanes. Overseas put
[44:00] them underground protected, so
[44:01] we don't have these matter
[44:04] major catastrophes during a
[44:07] store. So why are they could
[44:10] 180 and what's the plan for
[44:11] least aging transformers that
[44:14] around our city many things I
[44:14] feel for your 50 year life
[44:15] expectancy and they're all
[44:18] nearing or past that now they
[44:20] still taking that into
[44:21] consideration to be proactive
[44:22] so that we're not having
[44:23] people that are shut down for
[44:24] weeks at a time for
[44:26] electricity only because of
[44:28] aging equipment pay work that
[44:29] MAY is going to take care of a
[44:34] $1000 with hair. Want to say
[44:36] I'm completely against the
[44:37] data centers here or anywhere
[44:37] in the world because I don't
[44:40] think that they help anybody
[44:42] living better. And there
[44:45] they're not going either all
[44:53] are going to do is pay
[45:01] >> good afternoon, everybody
[45:04] mayonnaise there and I believe
[45:05] in can you step closer to the
[45:10] microphone or having a hard up
[45:16] okay. Start over it, and I
[45:19] believe the slow food in for
[45:21] the last 26 to life school.
[45:25] All it. I really don't have
[45:30] questions. Send the kids.
[45:36] Because I think the main sure
[45:36] 100 stand but the most concern
[45:38] is that we eat the of the
[45:44] city. So I guess what but your
[45:46] detention and sure know is
[45:47] that still weeks ago that
[45:51] name. Maybe that's the
[45:57] specific is out. I would plan
[46:00] data that only way the concern
[46:06] that residents of that cds 3
[46:08] cp about what about climate
[46:16] even the exception. Or the
[46:20] just have our need the power
[46:22] before they there and
[46:26] everything is on ahead. So. My
[46:29] question to you for I was
[46:33] talking about. Get one.
[46:38] Center. If it stops how say
[46:43] over to the of about and they
[46:45] the center. You all of these
[46:56] sessions. All of for the next
[46:59] time you need to vote vote. Do
[47:03] your homework because way they
[47:06] going for it and they chose
[47:07] they're going tell you you
[47:11] want to hear you know what
[47:14] that the ease and I know that
[47:16] from 5 because I come from
[47:21] south america and from through
[47:21] that scene and I also know how
[47:29] does that leave. We've seen 3
[47:30] of stuart and that kind yes
[47:33] exploded next to so I hope
[47:35] that you feel that that
[47:38] question. I want to play. They
[47:39] sent wheat when this one of
[47:43] the bill first thank you for
[48:00] >> 2 dozen patients. 26 city
[48:05] >> regarding certain
[48:07] information.
[48:08] >> me read the power and peace
[48:11] river manasota regional water
[48:15] supply authority. Border to
[48:24] allies. It can for you
[48:24] community feedback that we
[48:29] have see. A look at table is
[48:41] leaving the body you. Years
[48:52] you know be it people so our
[48:54] current to discuss to we want
[49:00] that feedback. I'm not a virus
[49:06] that not to do about it is to
[49:17] our to we will you with a
[49:22] facsimile come camp formal
[49:26] decision goes back to the day
[49:26] got go to guard or will he
[49:30] survive the covid these 5
[49:40] already we're on our to
[49:50] realize. We do we want to
[49:54] question question will we be
[50:02] certain of so we want to there
[50:11] are just detention this
[50:12] getting how believe are
[50:24] depending live we know the to
[50:29] longest of it all all it
[50:36] narrow to where it is now it
[50:45] not you need to know move
[50:50] trying to make that that off
[50:55] the that need to all our me
[51:00] and use part that because you
[51:09] what from the white players
[51:19] regulators call the brain more
[51:22] important. By all accident
[51:27] you'll see the next live a
[51:33] wide view of where they are
[51:33] but to wear are wrestling with
[51:40] the exact same train all the
[51:45] to gather the facts a lot it
[51:47] in kind that will be included
[51:56] commission's there. To go.
[51:57] This got that when do talk
[52:06] about to using here. What it
[52:10] but all years back food before
[52:17] we get and these are confident
[52:19] you can see virginia to texas.
[52:24] Got to cough this be have all
[52:27] season to is you know where it
[52:32] is on it is is the show's
[52:36] scale that it going. It this
[52:46] why come.
[52:50] >> what really a sigh of so
[52:57] that you've got disappointing
[53:02] for houses and based which is
[53:04] the prior to the high
[53:11] for astoria 2 want to play
[53:12] well for a lot
[53:18] we walk. Look at what oldest
[53:27] are in polls. Out of 30. Was
[53:28] CHAIRMAN City have his
[53:28] workshop that are we talked to
[53:36] is it. Want this year. We had
[53:43] 4 start people we did. 16
[53:44] meeting pleaded they still
[53:54] provide some information to
[53:57] with the 401 of them are
[54:05] practice is or used to and by
[54:16] that is the school. Where have
[54:29] to so are 32. Forces like all
[54:41] the plot. All the top 5 about
[54:45] the '02 holes, so is in
[54:52] period. The want we love show
[54:54] with little over to you.
[55:06] Board. Want detailed of
[55:11] providing key because that or
[55:24] practical resort research that
[55:44] spoke move pass those 5 to one
[55:46] that city residents citizens
[55:49] all talk about our hour
[55:57] ordeal. Distinguished station
[55:58] regulations regarding that as
[56:09] MAY or MAY not be aware that
[56:15] is became able play omar 2
[56:20] other florida moved required
[56:28] for 3rd all of the service
[56:29] they require. Or other
[56:44] raiders. A lot more a visit k.
[56:48] Is that word as whether not
[56:51] recalled used our local water
[56:57] resource leave way war
[57:02] acquired or is with best of 5
[57:12] requirements are use able to
[57:18] provide you do use it without
[57:31] here. They said. The rest
[57:39] bubbly kindly to you know
[57:39] attacks we're in the great
[57:41] public health safety impacts
[57:52] with many dubai of put also
[57:59] very all those all them impact
[58:00] local government doing
[58:03] overwork org or spoke to or
[58:13] property. But all of that to
[58:20] all over again we could as to
[58:25] those work or all going to be
[58:32] called in go period. It all
[58:37] more stunning when it a lot
[58:42] over twenty-twenty the it is
[58:46] to is going plan or you see
[58:59] jurors. To actions in the law
[58:59] occasion. Way for the
[59:17] hurricane makes a lot to the
[59:18] the mayor protect private
[59:24] property rights. We have along
[59:33] with ordinance so property.
[59:37] Thank you got one affecting
[59:41] real property. The is that as
[59:50] the 2 property owners existing
[59:54] were right to develop news
[59:56] pursue plane that's exactly it
[1:00:08] it will for. I back to this
[1:00:11] definition it however matter
[1:00:18] year. The bill made a o spoke
[1:00:25] of city that to the problem or
[1:00:41] lot in there to also road it.
[1:00:49] He's been there ball in the
[1:00:53] they're process he line. What
[1:01:02] a public servant to good.
[1:01:09] Florida the un environment
[1:01:14] that for 2 years was was these
[1:01:29] that problem. Due to those
[1:01:36] this part of u top or more,
[1:01:53] less of ways that good okay by
[1:02:00] michael is by 3 days. For 2
[1:02:06] days for those of
[1:02:07] >> viewers of process of fire
[1:02:11] we sort parks and you know
[1:02:18] these public to for the cover
[1:02:24] planning rules follow. It be
[1:02:27] doing it was the right space
[1:02:36] you know it there go it, you a
[1:02:49] co. 2 but that's okay too.
[1:02:49] >> always eat here the insurer
[1:02:54] to to make
[1:03:02] >> before we get process.
[1:03:03] >> you're that is ensure the
[1:03:04] availability and adequacy of
[1:03:08] public facilities for city
[1:03:12] that service for the impact of
[1:03:17] the on part of the public fire
[1:03:17] water.
[1:03:22] >> days senators who thought
[1:03:34] control. The existing wire
[1:03:36] fast problems have less of
[1:03:47] impact. Tax exhibit her. A but
[1:03:48] this project and that is very
[1:03:57] aware that we are not working
[1:04:11] not here to believe
[1:04:12] exact same
[1:04:14] way that this is not to speak
[1:04:26] to you I didn't to we do
[1:04:38] >> need we need to
[1:04:41] >> the year. The they actually
[1:04:49] said or so that you could have
[1:04:50] find PRESIDENT That they had
[1:04:58] received road. People dead. So
[1:05:03] e that all the service area.
[1:05:04] It really has provide lot of
[1:05:15] didn't go designed to protect
[1:05:25] to pay long hear. Phillips.
[1:05:26] Through all of them vote for
[1:05:27] to serve or customer of
[1:05:33] questions not other that you
[1:05:42] it is the are low quest you
[1:05:43] they have to needs are in the
[1:05:48] lore moved to blaze. But about
[1:06:03] this to be our best expect. At
[1:06:03] you. They are customers
[1:06:12] including the need to least
[1:06:24] that it in wires for about 6
[1:06:40] entire to the senator fire pay
[1:06:48] so do believe that is work it.
[1:06:56] The power power of will be
[1:07:06] first site what it served. 5
[1:07:07] to determine how best serve
[1:07:15] first for it there are 2 is
[1:07:32] the vision of 4 how up law
[1:07:39] bowl is pete called is a
[1:07:40] little bit ways has games
[1:07:42] request to demand it at the
[1:07:49] bottom of facility time it's
[1:07:54] very little. So we do some
[1:08:05] paperwork. So little bit you
[1:08:05] that a win or going go that
[1:08:14] you know get a lot as part
[1:08:24] power been so always need to
[1:08:36] be paid for by it tie
[1:08:37] development you know always
[1:08:45] said oversight of it. The psc
[1:08:51] '02 was the last year. It
[1:08:55] reported that is 2, 8, year
[1:09:08] old all I is is here fight
[1:09:11] with the rays in the al so
[1:09:21] there are ways. You know pass
[1:09:27] you know certain to off a
[1:09:39] state. And is or e start using
[1:09:41] already getting a war the
[1:09:56] system to for customers well.
[1:09:56] These more access services
[1:10:05] either chaos. Ensure
[1:10:07] protecting but it is there are
[1:10:15] a whole for. In are really to
[1:10:24] power dash the race 2 are far
[1:10:37] for be get that patients or do
[1:10:38] vote rector of the peace
[1:10:41] manasota regional water supply
[1:10:56] live authority. Thank you.
[1:11:03] Thank you MISTER Fletcher.
[1:11:04] >> mayor MISTER Appreciate you
[1:11:09] all about MAY be here today. I
[1:11:11] appeal guy shows
[1:11:18] important rich.
[1:11:22] >> I have just a few one of
[1:11:22] the spend a few minutes
[1:11:23] talking about the authority
[1:11:26] some of our background who 4
[1:11:30] years our history and really
[1:11:34] our role in your water supply.
[1:11:36] As you can see here we also
[1:11:41] want supplier we served 4
[1:11:42] county area bound county
[1:11:42] sarasota desoto and charlotte
[1:11:46] county. We're actually created
[1:11:50] in 1982. As a special district
[1:11:52] of the state independent
[1:11:53] special district under chapter
[1:11:57] 3.73 or statutes. And we
[1:11:57] operate our facility here on
[1:12:01] the other right. Just inside
[1:12:01] county where the star is its
[1:12:03] front of the peace river. Some
[1:12:06] folks have mentioned here
[1:12:10] tonight we acquired the
[1:12:11] facility from general
[1:12:13] development 1991 shortly
[1:12:14] before you all the choir water
[1:12:19] treatment plant of them had
[1:12:22] create to know from you know
[1:12:23] other facility that we operate
[1:12:27] was swallowed back in 1991.
[1:12:29] We've gone through 2 major
[1:12:30] expansions and one minor
[1:12:34] expansion that capacity is now
[1:12:36] 51 mgd also regional
[1:12:36] transmission system we have 88
[1:12:40] miles of large diameter pipes
[1:12:42] from to 48 diameter of car
[1:12:45] first throughout 4 county
[1:12:46] region. We have a loophole
[1:12:50] every points to those far to
[1:12:53] the city of north port that's
[1:12:54] serious leader of the price so
[1:12:56] we deliver you an average of
[1:12:56] about 2 gd actually that was
[1:12:59] the number for this year. You
[1:13:00] have capacity of 2.9 to be
[1:13:05] right now. Also through
[1:13:08] stations and multiple
[1:13:10] emergency connects both of our
[1:13:11] members and customers families
[1:13:13] not numbers, but city of punta
[1:13:17] gorda and know water district.
[1:13:20] So the information governing
[1:13:21] documents we have 3 major
[1:13:24] documents that the guys are
[1:13:25] principles the first one being
[1:13:28] are in a local agreement. But
[1:13:28] the pfizer service area which
[1:13:30] is the 4 county area are
[1:13:33] members. The board structure.
[1:13:37] Our organization and operating
[1:13:39] structure. The other agree
[1:13:40] that the guys are principles
[1:13:40] is the master water supply
[1:13:43] contract. That defines our
[1:13:45] obligation to provide water.
[1:13:48] Your obligation to pay for
[1:13:52] that it covers procedures on
[1:13:55] how supplies how you request
[1:13:56] you and things like day-to-day
[1:13:57] operations system pressures
[1:14:00] water quality. Average day
[1:14:01] they follow requirements that
[1:14:02] we have to meet to serving
[1:14:09] needs. This is just a quick
[1:14:10] side of short time of the
[1:14:10] history of the important cover
[1:14:14] a little bit of that already
[1:14:17] we were established in 1990 or
[1:14:19] 1982 the ritual that goes
[1:14:20] members kind of dropped out 2
[1:14:24] years later in before. I'm
[1:14:24] basically a plan agency for
[1:14:28] the first 9 years. What we
[1:14:31] acquired the peace river
[1:14:32] facility that same year north
[1:14:33] port became a customer of
[1:14:37] board. Her first major
[1:14:41] expansion started in 1905,000
[1:14:42] pr over the river option well
[1:14:47] have you need to the
[1:14:49] facilities that again with
[1:14:49] others expecting 10 years
[1:14:52] later the rfp or the regional
[1:14:53] detention program which other
[1:14:54] than other you that 48 unit
[1:15:00] capacity. Rebuild of the
[1:15:04] original 19 91 facility in
[1:15:05] 2015. And were able to add
[1:15:06] about 3 and do that us to the
[1:15:09] total today, 51 mgd capacity.
[1:15:12] We're currently been mentioned
[1:15:14] here little of construction
[1:15:14] project expanded the
[1:15:16] facilities were sort of as a
[1:15:21] bore on property as well as a
[1:15:21] 24 to expansion of our
[1:15:27] treatment facilities. Just a
[1:15:30] little more of a deep dive
[1:15:31] some of our of the statutes
[1:15:34] that govern our army focus as
[1:15:37] a wholesaler is developing
[1:15:38] story supply operating a
[1:15:41] regional water supply for
[1:15:44] wholesale purposes. We cannot
[1:15:45] engage local water
[1:15:46] distribution we're by statute
[1:15:49] from selling unlike fpl we can
[1:15:51] only sell to our members and
[1:15:53] customers we cannot sell to a
[1:15:54] developer or industrial user
[1:15:57] directly have to go through a
[1:15:58] customer such as yourself to
[1:16:00] supply that was. No that is
[1:16:02] still the will bring florida
[1:16:08] statutes.
[1:16:13] Drives all of our decisions 4
[1:16:14] members stayed for one member
[1:16:19] from all it bowls contract
[1:16:20] rates but parental rights to
[1:16:21] those 4 counties and
[1:16:22] the city to purchase water
[1:16:26] from floor. 4 dozen on voting
[1:16:30] customer, the 40, you
[1:16:31] contractual rights and you
[1:16:31] have your part to the mets
[1:16:34] were supply contract. The
[1:16:35] project itself as water
[1:16:38] allocations and this is where.
[1:16:39] Contractual obligations for us
[1:16:42] come into play. You are cross
[1:16:43] water from your 40 and we have
[1:16:46] an obligation to supply of
[1:16:48] water as I said right now
[1:16:48] allocation is 2.9 million
[1:16:53] gallons a day average. If you
[1:16:55] others factors things like
[1:16:56] that what any you all for us
[1:16:56] to take up to 2.9 million
[1:17:00] gallons of it. So how do you
[1:17:03] ask what was best described in
[1:17:06] a contract that we have a
[1:17:07] process. Each year all the
[1:17:08] customers provide us with your
[1:17:09] demand projections for 20
[1:17:09] years.
[1:17:12] And a 7 under with that some
[1:17:16] of your windows commitment.
[1:17:16] That you are willing to buy or
[1:17:21] we're going to build that one.
[1:17:22] Obviously you for 20 million
[1:17:23] gallons tomorrow as we can
[1:17:25] supply that we can't building
[1:17:27] permit that facility and that
[1:17:30] sort so the contract
[1:17:31] contemplates that a loss of 7
[1:17:32] years to respond to your if
[1:17:37] you ask water today. I have 7
[1:17:40] years to build sell permit
[1:17:40] constructed as do every thing
[1:17:42] and then start delivering that
[1:17:51] water. After the 7. It time
[1:17:53] move motion is so far we are
[1:17:56] in a drought right want to
[1:17:58] mention that that really is
[1:17:59] the main reason we drive our
[1:18:00] planning purposes, you know
[1:18:01] some what years some of your
[1:18:04] life your dream we drive. We
[1:18:07] have the water shortage of or
[1:18:10] since earlier this year I
[1:18:10] think MARCH or APRIL it
[1:18:16] doesn't extend one of 2026.
[1:18:20] You call or something like in
[1:18:21] response to were given an
[1:18:24] emergency too withdraw water,
[1:18:28] the peace river we should need
[1:18:30] it. So has similar words given
[1:18:34] to the city border. I'm not
[1:18:35] sure if they're actually take
[1:18:37] them are not under that
[1:18:39] provision continue use our
[1:18:40] storage and recovery wells as
[1:18:41] well as that we inject water
[1:18:46] in in the wet season. Need to
[1:18:48] take the water back out dry
[1:18:50] season, the music offense, our
[1:18:55] surface water facility. The
[1:19:17] here just give you an idea of
[1:19:17] the allocations of an inch and
[1:19:17] earlier all right, for board
[1:19:17] customers and members g you
[1:19:18] can see sarasota's the city is
[1:19:18] 2.9 with the construction of
[1:19:18] the products that are going on
[1:19:18] now we're 18 oh gee of
[1:19:18] allocation. To boeing
[1:19:18] contract. So services going up
[1:19:19] quite well charlotte's going
[1:19:24] to 3. Report that the slide so
[1:19:25] show here but north port's
[1:19:26] going up like 2 so your future
[1:19:28] allocation 4.9 in judy and
[1:19:30] then the sos going find one.
[1:19:32] they'll be one 0.7 those
[1:19:35] outages are spoken for based
[1:19:35] on the contractual obligation
[1:19:41] that we have with so. Was
[1:19:41] about to be put through that
[1:19:42] process and mentioned that
[1:19:45] seven-year process. And with
[1:19:46] that I'd happy to answer any
[1:19:57] questions. Okay
[1:20:00] >> her. You want of the
[1:20:07] summer.
[1:20:12] >> all right good evening.
[1:20:13] Mayor council. And the
[1:20:18] resident. Always love silo
[1:20:19] civic engagement secretion
[1:20:22] guys coming this month. So
[1:20:25] thank you for the opportunity
[1:20:25] is city can I have the honor
[1:20:29] of serving as executive
[1:20:30] director the which is a for
[1:20:33] additional infrastructure and
[1:20:33] security alliance. Are
[1:20:37] partisan trade association
[1:20:37] representing florida companies
[1:20:39] expert from technology energy
[1:20:41] infrastructure, healthcare and
[1:20:42] national security. Just want
[1:20:46] to we don't resent this bill
[1:20:47] are coming of plan I just kind
[1:20:50] of google the news article
[1:20:51] generally supportive of joint
[1:20:53] structure across florida. And
[1:20:53] I appreciate the opportunity
[1:20:58] to address rise tonight. Our
[1:21:00] perspective is that for us
[1:21:02] compete for infrastructure and
[1:21:03] investment and the the
[1:21:06] opportunity that comes with
[1:21:06] it.
[1:21:07] >> and the way that we believe
[1:21:08] best approach industry in
[1:21:09] florida is to do it
[1:21:11] responsibly based facts and
[1:21:15] that's why of exist. We are
[1:21:16] florida's evidence-based
[1:21:19] resource for elected officials
[1:21:20] in communities to help these
[1:21:22] state rounded verifiable data
[1:21:23] engineering research and
[1:21:26] actual lived experience. And
[1:21:27] we also believe that it really
[1:21:28] matters so we're going to
[1:21:29] advocate for this industry we
[1:21:29] should be able to answer
[1:21:32] questions with facts and we
[1:21:32] recognize that communities
[1:21:34] have reasonable questions.
[1:21:38] Related to noise water use the
[1:21:39] suspects are other impacts and
[1:21:39] I want to just acknowledge
[1:21:42] those at the outset. We also
[1:21:43] believe florida is uniquely
[1:21:45] positioned to take advantage
[1:21:45] of this opportunity address
[1:21:46] these matters to our existing
[1:21:48] regulatory and legal
[1:21:49] frameworks so let me start
[1:21:52] something very simple. All of
[1:21:53] us here right at some point
[1:21:58] I'm sure are majority of and
[1:21:59] by the way for a commission
[1:22:00] this is our leadership this is
[1:22:04] the focus for our border. So
[1:22:06] free to review you know who
[1:22:08] vote in autumn's right hasn't
[1:22:10] used google maps or check
[1:22:11] online banking or stream us
[1:22:12] something online movie or
[1:22:17] music or used. Any other tool
[1:22:17] to create flyer or to a text
[1:22:20] message or newsletter. Every
[1:22:22] one of those transactions.
[1:22:26] Live on the joint structure.
[1:22:26] And that brings me to the
[1:22:32] simplest idea of what idea
[1:22:34] that the cloud is somewhat for
[1:22:35] your family photos live
[1:22:36] somewhere our financial
[1:22:38] transactions. Our process
[1:22:39] somewhere. The applications
[1:22:42] are running our businesses
[1:22:42] federer that the applications
[1:22:43] that run our hospitals our
[1:22:46] schools, our governments or
[1:22:47] banks. Every major institution
[1:22:50] in society. It operates
[1:22:52] somewhere that somewhere is
[1:22:53] adopted inside is something
[1:22:54] you're going to hear more and
[1:22:57] more about. Compute computer
[1:23:00] is essentially computational
[1:23:01] horsepower it's our ability to
[1:23:04] store information process
[1:23:04] information in washington so
[1:23:06] months of data and run
[1:23:09] precinct sophisticated
[1:23:10] applications. And yes, our
[1:23:11] artificial intelligence. What
[1:23:14] we're talking about it's the
[1:23:14] physical infrastructure
[1:23:16] supporting the digital economy
[1:23:21] powering everyday life. So
[1:23:22] what exactly is it that a
[1:23:23] senator I want include this
[1:23:24] might give you a sense of
[1:23:28] scale. At the most basic level
[1:23:31] a data center's a physical
[1:23:32] space where computational
[1:23:34] equipment is house and service
[1:23:35] operating store information
[1:23:39] data comes in data goes right
[1:23:41] on the far you what would
[1:23:42] essentially be in it class
[1:23:43] that you find law firm point
[1:23:45] coming from or doctor's
[1:23:46] office. These are small
[1:23:47] facilities they operate mostly
[1:23:50] in the coming moving on from
[1:23:54] the area centers. They are
[1:23:55] primarily measured in the
[1:23:55] hundreds of kilowatt sometimes
[1:24:01] up to low megawatts centers
[1:24:02] are emphasized speed right so
[1:24:04] we're you're talking about
[1:24:05] telecommunications advanced
[1:24:06] manufacturing healthcare game
[1:24:09] or on vehicles. It centers are
[1:24:15] critical. Is comprised of. And
[1:24:15] everybody to operating
[1:24:18] primarily in one organization,
[1:24:19] a covid patients center think
[1:24:21] of it as like an apartment
[1:24:22] building. So the company
[1:24:23] doesn't want to build out
[1:24:24] their own data center it will
[1:24:24] rent out a portion of an
[1:24:28] existing data center. And then
[1:24:29] when people with the cloud
[1:24:29] because some were just ready
[1:24:32] all of these spaces. So that's
[1:24:33] how we get ultimately to the
[1:24:34] hyperscale data center these
[1:24:37] are large facilities. You're
[1:24:38] talking about on the scale of
[1:24:41] hundreds of megawatts all the
[1:24:43] way up to a high campuses
[1:24:44] which can be up to a good one
[1:24:45] so like him or think about
[1:24:46] omicron micro facility in your
[1:24:48] house, alright your law firm.
[1:24:50] A 1000 killed wants to make a
[1:24:54] lot a 1000 megawatt is a so
[1:24:55] just keep that in mind as we
[1:24:56] are exploring this
[1:25:01] conversation. So. All of these
[1:25:01] data centers with what
[1:25:05] centers. Can you know a
[1:25:05] variety of things it really
[1:25:08] ultimately comes down to scale
[1:25:09] each of different power
[1:25:10] requirements cooling systems
[1:25:14] wire and needs acreage
[1:25:14] investment levels
[1:25:15] construction, timelines and
[1:25:18] community impacts so
[1:25:19] commission when a proposal
[1:25:22] comes to the first question
[1:25:24] simply should not thing do we
[1:25:25] want but that we all live off
[1:25:26] of these things and responded
[1:25:29] its about scale. The better
[1:25:30] question is what type of
[1:25:30] facility is being proposed how
[1:25:32] large is it. How much power
[1:25:36] does it need initially knew
[1:25:39] that technology will be used.
[1:25:40] And does particular project
[1:25:44] work for our community and I
[1:25:44] want that to be the framework,
[1:25:45] you know as I present to you
[1:25:51] this evening. Zooming out on a
[1:25:52] lot of one for reading all of
[1:25:52] our stakeholders are all
[1:25:55] floridians florida companies.
[1:25:57] Florida has built the future
[1:26:00] before we go back to henry
[1:26:01] flagler building the for the
[1:26:03] the that connect to florida to
[1:26:04] the nation. We can go out to
[1:26:07] enterprising california too
[1:26:10] following central florida and
[1:26:11] last we don't love is just the
[1:26:12] world we can look to the
[1:26:15] federal government. Seeding
[1:26:16] space coast with which
[1:26:21] launched. And spacex and the
[1:26:22] entire space coast in legal
[1:26:25] system in that area. We can go
[1:26:26] to naval air station pensacola
[1:26:29] which established northwest,
[1:26:29] florida as the national center
[1:26:32] for aviation expertise laying
[1:26:33] the foundation. For today's
[1:26:34] robust defense corridor from
[1:26:35] can to call on with
[1:26:38] jacksonville. Florida is not
[1:26:41] home 3 combatant commands. I'm
[1:26:42] sure many of us know that
[1:26:44] center console common so call
[1:26:46] a quarter of the united states
[1:26:49] military's command are in
[1:26:50] florida. These commands rely
[1:26:53] on additional infrastructure.
[1:26:54] Let me repeat that these come
[1:26:56] JULY on digital
[1:26:57] infrastructure. This is as
[1:26:58] much local issue as it is a
[1:27:00] national security issue and I
[1:27:01] want to drive that point home
[1:27:06] as much of zooming out a
[1:27:08] little for we think about
[1:27:08] everything or I do that every
[1:27:09] generation built
[1:27:09] infrastructure that powers
[1:27:13] economy. The electric grid
[1:27:13] enable the transformational
[1:27:16] industrial economy of the 20th
[1:27:20] century are in era of record
[1:27:20] economic prosperity. Our
[1:27:21] interstate highway systems of
[1:27:25] the 1950's paved the way for
[1:27:27] our logistics a condom which
[1:27:28] allowed to order an on her
[1:27:29] using a data center and have
[1:27:33] that I you are the next day.
[1:27:34] Internet fire are on loan from
[1:27:36] digital age which we all rely
[1:27:36] on. This presentation relies
[1:27:40] upon it all life on it digital
[1:27:40] infrastructure is our
[1:27:45] generation's. From the best of
[1:27:45] our ability to lay the
[1:27:46] foundation for the next great
[1:27:50] economically forward. Yes
[1:27:51] artificial intelligence is a
[1:27:53] part its accelerated
[1:27:56] transition. And it's easy to
[1:27:57] hear touchy pt are think
[1:27:57] chatgpt editing and you know
[1:28:00] we're creating a flyer. That
[1:28:01] is just consumer-facing tip of
[1:28:05] something much larger.
[1:28:06] Advanced computing. It's
[1:28:09] helping researchers analyzed
[1:28:10] extraordinary amounts. But you
[1:28:12] going away from ation in
[1:28:12] cancer research. It
[1:28:15] accelerated drug discovery.
[1:28:17] It's helping scientists small
[1:28:18] proteins. It's helping improve
[1:28:23] weather forecasting right
[1:28:23] tremendous amounts of data
[1:28:24] which is relevant to us during
[1:28:29] hurricane season. It's being
[1:28:29] applied to cyber security is
[1:28:30] being applied to agriculture
[1:28:32] also rolled into florida. It's
[1:28:32] being applied aerospace also
[1:28:36] road to florida. It's applied
[1:28:38] medical imaging we want high
[1:28:40] quality mris my wife is a
[1:28:41] physician, she works in the
[1:28:44] hospital she leads hospital
[1:28:45] team. They rely on the highest
[1:28:48] quality technology. The most
[1:28:49] accurate scans guess where is
[1:28:50] stored that that is stored
[1:28:51] inside of it that that a
[1:28:52] second digital infrastructure
[1:28:57] is critical it. Always require
[1:28:57] computational power and
[1:28:58] computational power requires
[1:29:01] physical infrastructure. The
[1:29:01] cloud is physical
[1:29:07] infrastructure. It ultimately
[1:29:07] serves fibers electricity
[1:29:08] cooling technology
[1:29:10] cybersecurity in buildings.
[1:29:11] The world only the mandy moore
[1:29:15] compute. Infrastructure that
[1:29:17] serves that demand is going to
[1:29:18] represent yes, hundreds of
[1:29:18] billions of dollars of
[1:29:19] investment. That's not the
[1:29:24] point here. It will be built.
[1:29:25] It is the look at that not
[1:29:26] that just shared with us. The
[1:29:29] question is where and point is
[1:29:30] that florida should be
[1:29:35] competing for and florida has
[1:29:36] an advantage. 4 is not the
[1:29:38] first mover when it comes to
[1:29:39] data centers, not one not 2
[1:29:44] not correa. 13 other states
[1:29:45] numerous other states have
[1:29:47] moved on data centers before
[1:29:48] us have they maybe made a move
[1:29:53] that we would not absolutely.
[1:29:54] But florida's position to
[1:29:55] benefit from the lessons
[1:29:56] learned from those states. We
[1:29:59] can look at somebody write.
[1:30:00] Virginia with data sent out
[1:30:02] you can with the texas. Which
[1:30:04] has a robust ecosystem and I
[1:30:08] would I would agree. We would
[1:30:09] not maybe make all the moves
[1:30:10] that texas but we can learn
[1:30:13] from absolute. Tennessee has a
[1:30:15] massive metal facility. That's
[1:30:17] right. Jordan ohio arizona. I
[1:30:23] just learned today. My wife's
[1:30:23] state's right we with
[1:30:26] basically park on portland who
[1:30:27] here thinks of the pacific
[1:30:28] northwest visions, a
[1:30:31] technological ways plan. They
[1:30:32] have hyperscale facilities for
[1:30:35] 20 plus years. And there and
[1:30:36] they're very environment. We
[1:30:37] can their water is still
[1:30:42] coming. Google is operating a
[1:30:44] massive hyperscale facility in
[1:30:45] the dolls just outside of
[1:30:47] court and they have since
[1:30:49] 2006, the pacific northwest
[1:30:50] from portland approved hoover
[1:30:54] was washington has no less
[1:30:55] than 30 large-scale facilities
[1:30:55] that would qualify under sb
[1:30:58] 44. So these things are
[1:30:59] happening. There are score.
[1:31:03] Other states have spent time
[1:31:04] working through infrastructure
[1:31:07] utility land use workforce and
[1:31:08] economic development questions
[1:31:09] that are associate these
[1:31:10] projects that means florida
[1:31:12] does not need to invent this
[1:31:14] from scratch. We get to learn
[1:31:15] to look around the country
[1:31:17] identify the best practices.
[1:31:17] We get to look at how
[1:31:19] standards have evolved
[1:31:22] understand utility structures.
[1:31:23] We can look at different
[1:31:26] cooling technologies different
[1:31:26] fiscal impact. I thought
[1:31:27] programmed for effectiveness.
[1:31:31] And. And I think that's an
[1:31:31] important distinction
[1:31:35] sometimes data centers.
[1:31:37] Presented as though this is
[1:31:38] alien technology that we have
[1:31:41] know that we need to address
[1:31:41] we don't believe that this is
[1:31:42] not the only in technology at
[1:31:45] the end of the day. These are
[1:31:46] 4 walls with computer servers
[1:31:47] in a room in some air
[1:31:49] conditioning from the top not
[1:31:52] any major retailer
[1:31:55] supermarket. The scale of
[1:31:55] larger obviously there are
[1:31:56] questions that are real
[1:31:57] related to energy and water
[1:31:58] and with our existing
[1:31:59] framework. We can address
[1:32:04] those. For also any major
[1:32:05] investment do we or do we not
[1:32:08] permit power plants, permit
[1:32:11] factory. We permit residential
[1:32:11] communities. We permit
[1:32:14] hospitals with comedies
[1:32:14] distribution centers. Support
[1:32:15] agriculture, we support
[1:32:20] aerospace. We have decades
[1:32:21] building regulatory system
[1:32:25] evaluate large sophisticate of
[1:32:26] projects and it's really for
[1:32:28] fracture is just another major
[1:32:28] economic opportunity that can
[1:32:29] be evaluated through those
[1:32:32] same principles valuing the
[1:32:33] project applying the standards
[1:32:35] and for informed decision and
[1:32:36] because others moved first
[1:32:40] floor gets to do it better.
[1:32:41] And I bring to this point was
[1:32:43] covered a presentation touch
[1:32:46] upon here, florida existing
[1:32:47] framework. Poll and respect
[1:32:47] the questions that were asked
[1:32:50] the public come. These are
[1:32:53] real legitimate concerns
[1:32:54] regarding water, going to
[1:32:54] power in regarding land use
[1:32:55] and let me address all 3 right
[1:32:59] now. Florida chapter 3.73.
[1:33:02] Requires any major development
[1:33:07] to earn to be approved. Think
[1:33:08] these permit what does that
[1:33:08] mean he's going to what does
[1:33:10] that mean. Planning the
[1:33:12] properties to present a plan
[1:33:15] that shows its water
[1:33:15] consumption. The water
[1:33:16] management district and the
[1:33:17] department of environment
[1:33:21] protection approved that plan
[1:33:21] not only that approve or
[1:33:25] reject a plan by the way if it
[1:33:25] does not pass a threshold of
[1:33:28] being reasonable of not for me
[1:33:29] the residence and attic
[1:33:33] serving goals of the project.
[1:33:35] Water management district and
[1:33:36] the department of
[1:33:36] environmental protection also
[1:33:37] maintain ongoing enforcement
[1:33:40] proper. What that means is if
[1:33:40] a developer says he is going
[1:33:42] to be one thing and it doesn't
[1:33:43] end up doing that they can be
[1:33:47] punished along the way. Check
[1:33:47] of 3.73 not a new law goes
[1:33:51] back to the early 70's, we've
[1:33:54] used his framework for every
[1:33:54] major development we've uses
[1:33:55] framework for all the rockets,
[1:33:58] 70 shut off of the space
[1:33:59] coast. Every the part that we
[1:34:00] put out every neighborhood
[1:34:03] every golf everything that
[1:34:04] we've done. We've had fallen
[1:34:07] 173 since early 1970's. As the
[1:34:12] 4400 for this one. As the 44
[1:34:14] insurers for any project that
[1:34:18] is a large scale project above
[1:34:18] 50 megawatts that's what those
[1:34:19] local great haters will not
[1:34:21] bear the brunt. Any increase
[1:34:22] infrastructure build out.
[1:34:25] Any other costs related to
[1:34:30] power generation. So we have
[1:34:30] water that is addressed to a
[1:34:34] 50 plus year old framework. We
[1:34:35] have asked the 44 which is a
[1:34:36] good law that ensure rate
[1:34:39] payers are protected on power.
[1:34:40] And wendy's we have any
[1:34:41] existing framework that we
[1:34:44] utilized. For development
[1:34:46] across the state and in this
[1:34:47] community relating to noise
[1:34:51] relating to us that and
[1:34:52] encourage conversations I
[1:34:55] loved hearing the public safe.
[1:34:55] I just want talk this through
[1:34:56] more, I just want learn more I
[1:35:00] just want to hear more. Agree.
[1:35:00] The way that we do that and
[1:35:02] I'm not going get ahead of
[1:35:03] myself is every project needs
[1:35:07] to be evaluated. You know, and
[1:35:08] I will say that point for let
[1:35:09] me just make this final before
[1:35:12] moving from light in
[1:35:13] twenty-twenty 6 for the wind
[1:35:15] florida even further with sb
[1:35:20] 44. In chapter 3.73. Require a
[1:35:22] specific consumptive use
[1:35:23] permitting relating to
[1:35:24] large-scale data centers, yes,
[1:35:24] requiring them to use
[1:35:29] reclaimed water when possible.
[1:35:30] So yes, that is a possibility
[1:35:32] so somebody's #
[1:35:32] #
[1:35:32] #
[1:35:32] what about
[1:35:34] the water I say florida
[1:35:38] already has a system for
[1:35:39] answering they submit the
[1:35:40] engineering identify the and
[1:35:41] they determine the proposed
[1:35:45] use. 50 year-old that every
[1:35:47] day phone. What I would say
[1:35:51] is. I would encourage us to
[1:35:52] stop asking how could florida
[1:35:55] man's tissue industry. And
[1:35:56] it's that recognize we already
[1:35:57] have the tools necessary to
[1:36:01] manage to responsibly. I only
[1:36:02] have we on the on economic
[1:36:05] impact, although it is sizable
[1:36:06] is important. These are these
[1:36:07] are generators for
[1:36:10] communities. It's not just the
[1:36:11] tax base right. I mean I can
[1:36:16] give you examples. In lyon
[1:36:16] county they reduce their
[1:36:17] property tax for a year or a
[1:36:20] year from 26 to 2026. That's a
[1:36:20] burden that was reduced on the
[1:36:22] residence while increasing
[1:36:28] services. In tennessee meta
[1:36:29] sorry and in louisiana and
[1:36:29] office on sales tax revenues
[1:36:30] from their facility they were
[1:36:31] able to get teachers to
[1:36:34] $60,000 on that straight. And
[1:36:35] you know working that I just
[1:36:36] mentioned to go over of the
[1:36:36] outside of the in the dots
[1:36:39] that support them. The
[1:36:39] revenues from that facility
[1:36:42] were reinvested into more
[1:36:43] efficient. Power
[1:36:45] infrastructure which actually
[1:36:45] and about dropping quite
[1:36:50] significantly. The estimated.
[1:36:50] Rate increase that they
[1:36:51] expected in florida there will
[1:36:54] not be rate increases the 44
[1:36:54] working because they have the
[1:36:57] money to reinvest they dropped
[1:36:58] the expected increase from 26%
[1:37:03] 8. 23% down to 8. So that to
[1:37:04] say I want to harp on this
[1:37:05] issue because and folks get
[1:37:05] lost and thinking it's just a
[1:37:08] money matter. This isn't the
[1:37:09] money part is important we
[1:37:10] have major issue. Coming up on
[1:37:15] or about NOVEMBER that are
[1:37:16] going to severely impact our
[1:37:18] live our police our fire our
[1:37:18] day-to-day life and understand
[1:37:22] from the public. What I mean
[1:37:23] that's a that's a massive vote
[1:37:23] that's coming up which is
[1:37:24] going to severely one way or
[1:37:27] another affect our laws. This
[1:37:28] actually is a massive
[1:37:31] opportunity to bring revenue
[1:37:32] our communities. In addition
[1:37:32] to there there is a meaningful
[1:37:36] work force impact. Labor is
[1:37:39] not that you can't think of
[1:37:39] center's as a corporate hq
[1:37:41] we're looking into town ribbon
[1:37:43] cutting 1000 jobs announced
[1:37:46] that's really not the
[1:37:49] headline. There is a impact in
[1:37:49] the buildup for 2 think about
[1:37:54] 2 years the data center. Don't
[1:37:56] be anywhere on the team, you
[1:37:56] know you know, but it seems
[1:37:57] like 100 to a 1000 you know
[1:37:58] these are good jobs. For the
[1:38:01] period of time right. So
[1:38:02] there's a contractor, what
[1:38:06] russians pipe fitters. You
[1:38:06] write again from ongoing basis
[1:38:07] after that.
[1:38:12] You're talking about hundreds
[1:38:15] of jobs, anywhere but a 200 to
[1:38:15] 500 depends on the scale
[1:38:19] six-figure paying jobs in your
[1:38:19] community. Okay is that they
[1:38:20] changing amount of job for
[1:38:21] some people it is for those
[1:38:25] people it is for those 500
[1:38:26] people in the community making
[1:38:28] all 6 figures guaranteed
[1:38:30] income that's meaningful
[1:38:31] employment opportunity and
[1:38:34] these companies also by the
[1:38:34] way investing workforce
[1:38:37] program which allows average
[1:38:40] people 2 on the road into the
[1:38:41] digital economy. So capital
[1:38:42] investment tax base
[1:38:44] construction. Employment,
[1:38:46] permanent employment and
[1:38:47] workforce development. This is
[1:38:48] what we're talking about we
[1:38:53] talk about capital investment.
[1:38:53] That leads me to a broader
[1:38:54] point that I would like to
[1:38:58] make. Florida has spent
[1:38:59] decades establishing itself as
[1:38:59] one of america's leading
[1:39:00] states when it comes to
[1:39:02] industry and innovation and
[1:39:04] not foster has served as
[1:39:05] extraordinarily well when an
[1:39:07] innovative company has
[1:39:08] approached us. Our instinct
[1:39:11] has not talking for this
[1:39:12] industry are things is how can
[1:39:14] we make it work. What
[1:39:17] standards apply. What is the
[1:39:17] right location, what
[1:39:20] investment will it bring. But
[1:39:20] it's creative. What
[1:39:24] infrastructure is required.
[1:39:24] And the the we should take the
[1:39:25] same approach when it comes to
[1:39:28] digital infrastructure. That's
[1:39:29] why we do not believe work for
[1:39:33] in our way forward. Because
[1:39:34] fundamentally know it's a
[1:39:36] conversation under. Once you
[1:39:37] say no there is nothing to
[1:39:41] about it. You never get to
[1:39:43] determine the you don't get to
[1:39:44] determine. Whether our project
[1:39:47] can satisfy water requirement.
[1:39:48] You don't get to determine
[1:39:50] whether utility conservative
[1:39:53] under a structure that keeps
[1:39:53] protect your customers, you
[1:39:54] benefit you never negotiate
[1:39:56] the workforce impact you never
[1:39:57] get to ask the company to
[1:39:58] modify their design. You never
[1:40:02] get to determine the proposal
[1:40:03] and whether it would be a
[1:40:03] tremendous economic
[1:40:04] development opportunity for
[1:40:08] residents. The conversation is
[1:40:08] simply over at that point and
[1:40:09] I don't believe that's
[1:40:10] consistent with the florida
[1:40:14] that we know. Found a to be to
[1:40:15] balance being open for
[1:40:16] business and being good for
[1:40:16] consumers in a way that works
[1:40:21] for all of us for be a factor
[1:40:23] or a biotech company or new
[1:40:24] aerospace company willing to
[1:40:26] invest a billion dollars in
[1:40:26] your community. Our response
[1:40:29] be no. Response would be
[1:40:33] what's of value with the
[1:40:34] project but establishing the
[1:40:34] rules was asked really good
[1:40:36] really smart questions but
[1:40:36] negotiating, let's make
[1:40:38] informed decisions. Compete
[1:40:41] for the investment and digital
[1:40:42] infrastructure deserves the
[1:40:47] same treatment. The framework
[1:40:49] that we is don't start with
[1:40:49] yes because flatly there are
[1:40:50] projects that should not be
[1:40:53] approved. Don't start with no
[1:40:56] because that the conversation
[1:40:57] and you're not allowed even
[1:40:57] negotiate whether it's good
[1:40:58] for your community at that
[1:41:02] point start with the facts if
[1:41:03] you start with the facts and
[1:41:04] have a conversation you can
[1:41:04] evaluate project and
[1:41:10] community. So. We believe so
[1:41:15] so I I see that all city. The
[1:41:16] capital in jobs and workforce
[1:41:18] will go somewhere right that's
[1:41:20] from the map that we saw. The
[1:41:24] tax base will go somewhere.
[1:41:26] Because system that springs
[1:41:26] around these digital these
[1:41:29] centers. Of will develop
[1:41:30] somewhere and we believe that
[1:41:34] summer shipp before. In
[1:41:35] closing I want to be very
[1:41:37] clear with where 56 stands. We
[1:41:39] believe florida should compete
[1:41:43] for the infrastructure power
[1:41:43] and artificial intelligence
[1:41:46] cloud computing cybersecurity
[1:41:47] research and next generation
[1:41:50] of the digital economy.
[1:41:51] Believe our communities have
[1:41:53] the opportunity to capture the
[1:41:53] capital investment. The tax
[1:41:55] base, the jobs. The
[1:41:57] construction activity, the
[1:41:58] workforce development and the
[1:41:58] economic development that
[1:42:02] comes with and we believe
[1:42:03] florida can do that while
[1:42:04] maintaining the high quality
[1:42:06] that our communities expect.
[1:42:10] That's what responsible growth
[1:42:11] florida does not have to
[1:42:12] choose between innovation good
[1:42:14] governance. We don't have to
[1:42:15] choose between economic
[1:42:17] development and protecting
[1:42:18] resources. We know how to do
[1:42:19] both because we have been
[1:42:22] doing both for decades in
[1:42:22] multiple industries. States I
[1:42:23] would first we can do it
[1:42:25] better. Take the best
[1:42:28] practices we apply florida's
[1:42:28] framework and we and we try to
[1:42:30] make it work right. So goes
[1:42:35] for real this time.
[1:42:37] Underscoring the idea every
[1:42:37] generation might build the
[1:42:38] that the next generation
[1:42:41] benefits from. We prefer to
[1:42:43] keep open for business to keep
[1:42:46] are at the forefront of
[1:42:47] innovation to make decisions
[1:42:47] based on facts rather than
[1:42:49] fear. To continue the
[1:42:52] conversation rather than do it
[1:42:53] and to decide what projects
[1:42:56] makes sense for your commute.
[1:42:57] That's where you're so that's
[1:42:59] you work you can visit our
[1:43:00] website we believe in building
[1:43:01] here in building right. I
[1:43:16] appreciate the time thank
[1:43:24] rattle we heard or you exact
[1:43:25] and you know occasion for
[1:43:33] often their JULY 22 states
[1:43:37] yeah okay to it's a staff is
[1:43:53] that we submit 30 26. Or be a
[1:44:05] the deadliest fire AUGUST flat
[1:44:13] the cause of trying to grab a
[1:44:14] little importantly development
[1:44:14] k
[1:44:26] prefer 26 actually live for a
[1:44:30] second secondly or or a career
[1:44:30] to be it but
[1:44:36] approved. Taylor only we're
[1:44:42] depressed about too o boys
[1:44:53] second while about. I it's
[1:44:59] just a website work. I feel
[1:45:00] that blatter worked on that
[1:45:07] area and he threw all these
[1:45:12] are responding the way request
[1:45:18] have discussion with board. It
[1:45:18] all forward subject matter
[1:45:27] experts as well. We want to
[1:45:32] tell you all was be able to
[1:45:39] play the bulletin.
[1:45:43] >> questions we get the peace
[1:45:50] river. You
[1:46:01] >> show.
[1:46:02] >> now where the energy but
[1:46:03] we're going to be going up to
[1:46:07] 4.9.
[1:46:08] >> that's for current
[1:46:09] services, we have currently
[1:46:11] right now. They're expecting
[1:46:17] news out there.
[1:46:21] >> yes not a new coming for
[1:46:22] this
[1:46:22] >> all say we your numbers you
[1:46:23] get us for your and so I don't
[1:46:27] know where that too to point
[1:46:33] out going I with that was so
[1:46:39] that's why she's there state
[1:46:43] 2.94 now it's up to her.
[1:46:47] >> to give a little
[1:46:48] commissioner the question
[1:46:49] assistance city manager.
[1:46:50] >> we do provide the numbers
[1:46:54] with projected growth 2 peace
[1:46:58] river manasota regional water
[1:46:59] supply right now that water is
[1:47:02] just kind of like a safety at
[1:47:04] for the very most part of the
[1:47:06] year we're able to all the
[1:47:09] water that we need we have 6.2
[1:47:12] million gallons per day that
[1:47:14] we supply I average we have
[1:47:15] about 3 to 4 million gallons
[1:47:18] per day that are used. But if
[1:47:19] there's ever a problem with
[1:47:20] plane was downed, there's a
[1:47:20] drought something that
[1:47:27] happens. There are backup.
[1:47:27] Question
[1:47:32] >> when we peace river. It's
[1:47:32] not have betrayed plan and
[1:47:36] then dispersed out community.
[1:47:37] >> it does come treated, but
[1:47:38] it goes to booster station so
[1:47:38] that we can tested to make
[1:47:42] sure that it's up to quality
[1:47:44] by the time it travels often
[1:47:46] reason I ask that is because
[1:47:47] okay with it was closed down
[1:47:52] by the
[1:47:57] >> variables to the our lands
[1:47:59] so it doesn't need we don't
[1:48:01] have that structure.
[1:48:02] >> it would not to go directly
[1:48:06] to the plant we do some of
[1:48:07] those in hillsborough booster
[1:48:08] station now gets treated
[1:48:12] tested goes back out.
[1:48:14] >> is day and all this water
[1:48:16] supply that we don't know what
[1:48:17] water supply to now that would
[1:48:18] be a very difficult question
[1:48:18] to answer without knowing what
[1:48:22] the numbers are.
[1:48:23] >> but there are possibilities
[1:48:25] there's there's some capacity
[1:48:26] there we also you know you
[1:48:26] could build a booster station
[1:48:28] is not the same level of
[1:48:33] infrastructure is a plant.
[1:48:34] >> but that would rely on the
[1:48:35] applicant to build that for
[1:48:39] their water yes sir, the
[1:48:40] developer would be responsible
[1:48:41] for any infrastructure related
[1:48:44] to their party.
[1:48:50] >> talked about play to we
[1:48:53] need reclaim pretty sparse or
[1:48:58] use all developments go like
[1:49:02] >> do we to be building water.
[1:49:03] >> we do not currently have
[1:49:05] reclaimed water in that area.
[1:49:07] But we would greatly look for
[1:49:09] a partner with a developer to
[1:49:09] help us build that
[1:49:10] infrastructure that water from
[1:49:13] our distinct plant out that
[1:49:16] way. As we grow and we have
[1:49:18] more users on our system that
[1:49:19] means we have more water that
[1:49:19] goes back to the wastewater
[1:49:20] treatment plant which then can
[1:49:23] go out towards. Users that
[1:49:23] would look for reclaimed
[1:49:27] water.
[1:49:28] >> and so that's part of the
[1:49:29] cost down the road, you know
[1:49:34] would be that it is required
[1:49:35] that they use reuse water
[1:49:36] because I heard statistics
[1:49:40] here are required to do that
[1:49:41] that maybe they put that to
[1:49:43] make that available to that.
[1:49:43] >> if you believe the
[1:49:48] required. To use reclaim water
[1:49:49] if it is available, I think it
[1:49:53] would be a conversation with
[1:49:55] this group to make that a
[1:49:57] requirement so that we would
[1:49:57] have the infrastructure but
[1:50:00] these will be great
[1:50:05] conversations as a project
[1:50:05] were do and how to be
[1:50:06] distributed in even have the
[1:50:11] possibility so.
[1:50:11] >> there's a lot work to do
[1:50:12] especially with what the
[1:50:12] demands could be in the
[1:50:17] future. Are they out of a
[1:50:21] small those we need staff. So
[1:50:29] open it up to commissioner
[1:50:33] >> to thank you very much for
[1:50:33] comment
[1:50:36] >> because any information
[1:50:37] hell's more water.
[1:50:53] First question all all. We've
[1:50:55] got a pretty wore I think
[1:50:56] probably more so than average
[1:51:03] itself my question is this you
[1:51:12] want to close they that close
[1:51:14] system goes up dramatically.
[1:51:19] Estimates I've read across a
[1:51:27] for handle that. How system.
[1:51:28] Electrical whatever might be
[1:51:35] bill in order to. I was scared
[1:51:36] basin possibly 2 to 3 billion
[1:51:45] gallons a year. Year. Gallons
[1:51:50] so question where playing. For
[1:51:59] what we used or elsewhere. A
[1:52:00] war. This is you know less
[1:52:08] uses for solar which we mike
[1:52:09] because the here. So my
[1:52:13] concern is as I don't know for
[1:52:16] but it sure seems to that
[1:52:19] whether it's you we're close
[1:52:22] system. There just isn't war.
[1:52:28] With the support.
[1:52:29] >> I understand I not respond
[1:52:30] directly could I don't I don't
[1:52:33] the project and I but I
[1:52:34] provide a framework for the
[1:52:35] marks the latest technologies
[1:52:41] are right. So. So right which
[1:52:42] is complicates running
[1:52:45] constantly into into the into
[1:52:45] the machine and close right
[1:52:50] which is like a great. How
[1:52:51] close releases the heat right
[1:52:53] because cold water goes over
[1:52:57] it's not warm water has to
[1:52:58] become whole water and so that
[1:53:01] warm to go somewhere just 2
[1:53:03] weeks ago that a backward of
[1:53:04] active cooling. Which is
[1:53:06] literally like cooling towers
[1:53:09] and water steam evaporating
[1:53:09] away which requires water
[1:53:10] consumption, additional water
[1:53:15] consumption. 4. There is
[1:53:17] basically using fans to cool
[1:53:17] the water right to call about
[1:53:20] water down to the temperature
[1:53:20] that is more power can
[1:53:23] something so it's a tradeoff
[1:53:23] that you would have to decide
[1:53:25] that he stopped off to the
[1:53:26] side race and so what I would
[1:53:30] say it's just really quickly.
[1:53:34] On average right so 30
[1:53:34] megawatt facility, let's just
[1:53:35] a very average size facility
[1:53:36] in terms of size of a
[1:53:38] meaningful facility pretty
[1:53:40] michael it's a closed loop
[1:53:41] system it's a 1.6 million
[1:53:48] gallon one it's a water slide
[1:53:49] called just like you find in a
[1:53:50] call and just like you find in
[1:53:54] your ice rinks I don't
[1:53:55] hospital university I think
[1:53:56] bench and senator I don't cold
[1:54:00] storage facility, water all
[1:54:01] for a 30 megawatt facility,
[1:54:06] 1.6 million last the last 45
[1:54:07] years and member of the public
[1:54:08] ask what happens out water.
[1:54:10] What happened you're either
[1:54:11] for it. What happens to the
[1:54:14] water in the pipes under rings
[1:54:17] I just I saw my mind because
[1:54:18] my son plays hockey, my wife
[1:54:23] just text questions fingers,
[1:54:23] I'm please lot questions
[1:54:28] people are going to have you.
[1:54:29] >> closed loop system is going
[1:54:30] to mitigate the amount word.
[1:54:34] Yes. So station that's been in
[1:54:39] power. Just a second closed
[1:54:41] system is going to require a
[1:54:44] lot more system.
[1:54:48] >> you darn near 2 billion
[1:54:53] gallons of water a year. So
[1:54:54] station so where does that so
[1:54:59] first off I I wish we had.
[1:55:00] >> representatives from fpl to
[1:55:00] address it specifically I
[1:55:02] don't know that that number I
[1:55:05] don't I don't know yeah I
[1:55:05] don't know that number what I
[1:55:07] would say is we should
[1:55:09] probably come to terms our
[1:55:10] require resources. Everything
[1:55:12] we do is meeting requires
[1:55:13] resources. The burger that I
[1:55:16] had for lunch, require a lot
[1:55:17] of resources raise that cow
[1:55:20] was spotted leaving the door.
[1:55:22] so there is water consumption
[1:55:23] involved and I would say later
[1:55:29] workshop the switching over
[1:55:35] >> made of fact we have.
[1:55:40] Wonderful.
[1:55:40] >> landings regulations place
[1:55:41] and the ability to smash.
[1:55:51] This a cause. Henri for you
[1:55:52] know addresses certain banks
[1:55:58] certainly reward bill. And
[1:55:58] they look
[1:56:01] and very clearly.
[1:56:09] >> streams from summer
[1:56:10] restrictive regulation we're
[1:56:11] preemption that state
[1:56:14] government imposed covers
[1:56:16] local governments in a
[1:56:20] position say or when he's
[1:56:23] ready way. So consequently I
[1:56:23] guess the local level what
[1:56:24] we're looking at will trust
[1:56:30] bp. We're a will trust the
[1:56:36] state legislature to legislate
[1:56:39] this a us work allow to and we
[1:56:46] can say she we control so I
[1:56:47] say florida place for this to
[1:56:51] happen not political climate
[1:56:55] regulate it's so many things
[1:56:55] most municipalities in the
[1:57:02] state of war. Have no clue
[1:57:02] about senator's there is
[1:57:04] nothing our regulate this kind
[1:57:08] project okay so how is where
[1:57:11] are we sure ourselves. Telling
[1:57:17] your result. This is going to
[1:57:18] built a state-of-the-art
[1:57:19] dresses or concerns of war,
[1:57:24] air quality and sound. There's
[1:57:26] a that we face I don't
[1:57:27] technology exists. Doubt in
[1:57:31] the perfect world, we'll
[1:57:33] compete and we could find
[1:57:34] where community issues my
[1:57:38] problem local government
[1:57:42] official old to do anything
[1:57:46] controls process since
[1:57:47] supposedly represent of these
[1:57:55] people reason
[1:57:56] >> for those questions for so
[1:57:59] exactly we should do trust.
[1:58:00] >> I would I would ask that
[1:58:06] you re rees sb 44 and that is
[1:58:07] I would consult your city
[1:58:08] attorney on whether sb 44
[1:58:09] grants local government's
[1:58:11] ability to control and use
[1:58:15] harris liability would exist.
[1:58:16] If you are doing moratorium
[1:58:16] that would affect a project
[1:58:19] that you've already approved
[1:58:22] that's why we're don't do the
[1:58:23] moratorium found with the
[1:58:24] project regain the power that
[1:58:24] you have to align with the
[1:58:34] project.
[1:58:39] >> us thank you.
[1:58:41] >> as the you want you the
[1:58:53] most. All sales went terribly.
[1:58:55] The point where polls the and
[1:59:04] this is over. Not taking sides
[1:59:07] forward you'll see 0
[1:59:08] regulations.
[1:59:14] Projects like 0 cases and 4
[1:59:16] walls
[1:59:17] carter is. But he says the
[1:59:24] problem is. We fail husband
[1:59:26] and this projects to propose
[1:59:28] more important people. On JULY
[1:59:39] 21st. Season official rules.
[1:59:41] 31st and obviously we did
[1:59:42] describe subject to report
[1:59:46] more. We're part is that the
[2:00:00] case received. As for 4.
[2:00:08] >> where part
[2:00:17] >> certain.
[2:00:19] >> it that before it I mean
[2:00:20] that
[2:00:25] >> power.
[2:00:28] >> you know people are scared
[2:00:37] >> had problem but the section
[2:00:39] so when it came exercise the
[2:00:42] powers those with phone
[2:00:45] company planning and when
[2:00:49] radiation credit respect to
[2:00:54] our loyal customers. It's a
[2:00:58] and this is a civic way
[2:01:00] governor desantis wants that.
[2:01:08] And I premium this is this a
[2:01:19] but to move and
[2:01:24] >> they want by saying.
[2:01:25] >> the customers is not
[2:01:25] responsible for a ship to
[2:01:32] prevent.
[2:01:35] >> the 2 parents reason sure
[2:01:43] for there's it's service.
[2:01:55] General only you is going paul
[2:02:02] we're going say just. We're in
[2:02:04] right now so cells cells and
[2:02:07] play
[2:02:10] >> this is same as the city
[2:02:14] will commission staff. That
[2:02:16] was coming from commission for
[2:02:26] me. And year.
[2:02:32] >> need to go it needs to be
[2:02:33] service commission must
[2:02:34] good-faith defense will to put
[2:02:38] I but that just going to it's
[2:02:49] a reasonable that need take
[2:02:55] care of every dollar or so
[2:03:05] nation is the structure. Law.
[2:03:08] And with off that was found
[2:03:12] the city. And I'm saying we're
[2:03:20] terribly because. What I know
[2:03:22] if you move the second when
[2:03:27] for the second the submission.
[2:03:31] These they using. From
[2:03:36] building which first talk.
[2:03:39] Police 3 times that a stay. I
[2:03:49] represent project, but so many
[2:03:56] of year. You our south of the
[2:04:08] city come itself. We used fish
[2:04:16] people. People ask us to pass.
[2:04:16] This applications so we use to
[2:04:29] solve you saying. Bands and we
[2:04:44] start pole. But you hall
[2:04:47] enjoyed it. I let that you
[2:04:51] pleading with mission is. To
[2:04:52] put so we have probably
[2:04:59] wishes. Not able to get the
[2:05:03] there's 7 believes that you
[2:05:06] know. You so been to
[2:05:10] generators. The disease, but
[2:05:14] we have to have to you
[2:05:17] facilities they can not at all
[2:05:25] even they faced rolls on the
[2:05:26] you know areas of the 72 holes
[2:05:34] in it. Seem divisive and how
[2:05:41] deals with me specific. That
[2:05:43] drew in way to get information
[2:06:01] the time and but so for little
[2:06:02] and how people don't realize
[2:06:04] what it means by that power.
[2:06:06] What they our politicians are
[2:06:17] unstable. Is going because you
[2:06:27] they a lot water. Little too
[2:06:35] late strategy. What causes a
[2:06:36] of work and know the water a
[2:06:44] supply
[2:06:45] >> as we work through the
[2:06:45] development we would work with
[2:06:50] the developer to. Pay for all
[2:06:51] and install the infrastructure
[2:06:52] necessary for their
[2:06:57] development we very similar
[2:06:57] things as our community grows
[2:07:01] we have going on at star
[2:07:04] they're paying for the
[2:07:05] connection for the water in
[2:07:05] the pipes, so this is a
[2:07:06] standard process that the city
[2:07:13] uses.
[2:07:20] >> questions
[2:07:24] >> it is that project it is
[2:07:25] not going to use a lot of
[2:07:27] water. It's all just because
[2:07:31] it's close the system. Eyes or
[2:07:35] questions on and just remember
[2:07:45] you know search and. For us.
[2:07:46] >> reason learning more cost
[2:07:48] of
[2:08:01] we
[2:08:15] >> ice your thank are
[2:08:20] >> we we have all 3 that the
[2:08:21] most important piece of needs
[2:08:26] to accomplish. There are
[2:08:33] this coming we will insist
[2:08:34] that this find should it a
[2:08:43] long path. And so what I what
[2:08:46] best practices. So we make
[2:08:47] sure the. Include in our
[2:08:55] regulation. So.
[2:08:57] >> well that general are very
[2:09:01] similar at the a lot of power
[2:09:06] related question.
[2:09:08] >> MISTER City I think to
[2:09:09] answer these questions again
[2:09:11] not specific to this crime.
[2:09:16] Sure in general. And in my
[2:09:19] race. I we learned.
[2:09:30] So like
[2:09:43] us areas
[2:09:44] >> so I was really surprised
[2:09:52] started working that are so
[2:09:53] >> what
[2:09:54] >> does passes so my question
[2:09:57] to you
[2:10:11] we have I trust to what some
[2:10:14] of the best practices in other
[2:10:17] ways of
[2:10:20] >> rather than being. Totally
[2:10:23] depend water.
[2:10:30] >> thanks for the question the
[2:10:31] first thing say is that he
[2:10:31] said does offer a model
[2:10:34] ordinance crimes if you ever
[2:10:35] want access for speaker for
[2:10:36] happy to connect you guys in
[2:10:39] future workshop you can help
[2:10:41] our goal is not to push
[2:10:41] projects improve the
[2:10:43] conversation to offer more
[2:10:43] facts.
[2:10:44] >> and that's that's kind of
[2:10:47] where I it's hard to without a
[2:10:50] doubt right we're seeing
[2:10:51] massive data production in
[2:10:51] texas.
[2:10:57] I as I mentioned in my remarks
[2:10:57] I would not advocate for some
[2:10:58] of the matter is that they
[2:10:59] utilize I think it's been a
[2:11:02] bit too much. We can learn
[2:11:04] from them we are seeing it
[2:11:04] very spartan arizona another
[2:11:07] find it and and you know,
[2:11:11] let's not it's not just
[2:11:11] americans having this
[2:11:14] conversation seeing lots of
[2:11:15] folks from the globe that and
[2:11:19] we're seeing announcements
[2:11:19] countries across the globe
[2:11:20] that are a very hot air
[2:11:22] requirements that are saying
[2:11:22] we will take all the data
[2:11:25] center part that rowley's to
[2:11:29] your point which is you know
[2:11:33] we this country to have laws
[2:11:35] and regulations and standards
[2:11:37] citizen engagement and elected
[2:11:39] officials and process that's
[2:11:40] general important that we
[2:11:41] pursue this in our country and
[2:11:46] our state certainly because.
[2:11:48] Countries do this without laws
[2:11:48] and regulations and citizen
[2:11:49] engagement and elected
[2:11:52] officials and also say in
[2:11:56] exchange access to your
[2:11:57] frontier models any of us
[2:11:58] whether you're in georgia or
[2:12:02] florida or texas. Let me just
[2:12:03] start in terms of cooling.
[2:12:04] It's really a trade-off it's
[2:12:06] water or electricity. There's
[2:12:07] really no other way to cool
[2:12:10] its a car. You've got to with
[2:12:12] cool that's it. So it's a
[2:12:14] decision for the council to
[2:12:16] make and it's it's a standard
[2:12:19] for you to hold the developer
[2:12:19] I can't speak to that project,
[2:12:20] I'm familiar with it, I don't
[2:12:23] know the details pretty big
[2:12:24] that's not a bad that can be a
[2:12:27] great thing if done properly,
[2:12:28] but really when it comes to
[2:12:29] calling it the water
[2:12:29] consumption issue working
[2:12:32] consumption. Earned some
[2:12:32] sunshine. And that's the
[2:12:33] tradeoff that you have to and
[2:12:39] that's just kind of worked
[2:12:43] >> I have come to understand
[2:12:47] that.
[2:12:52] >> or well designed system is
[2:13:03] the data staff. So. Are
[2:13:09] getting
[2:13:21] with that. Don't have any data
[2:13:35] what what are some world
[2:13:36] >> what are
[2:13:47] >> want how rain all are they.
[2:13:50] Water.
[2:13:55] >> it's it's the same dynamic
[2:13:55] so.
[2:13:56] >> first you cooling
[2:13:58] technologies have there's a
[2:13:59] point where we would just pump
[2:14:02] entire room full of cold air
[2:14:03] right like as if like we have
[2:14:03] food in our fridge and so
[2:14:06] we're going to cool our entire
[2:14:07] house to 50 degrees because
[2:14:08] there's food in the fridge. It
[2:14:12] was very inefficient it's
[2:14:12] evolved now the technology to
[2:14:13] where there's water literally
[2:14:14] running along the chips. That
[2:14:18] is calling the chips and
[2:14:18] outside of that these are
[2:14:22] basically empty buildings. So
[2:14:23] the power consumption I can't
[2:14:27] speak specifics, but it's not
[2:14:29] like there's a ton of other
[2:14:30] activity the chips are being
[2:14:31] called by the water which is
[2:14:32] taking the heat away so
[2:14:33] there's not in heat flowing
[2:14:36] throughout the facility.
[2:14:36] Obviously there will be air
[2:14:38] conditioning units like a
[2:14:40] costco there will be water
[2:14:41] consumption in the for
[2:14:43] security guards and the
[2:14:44] workers. There will be
[2:14:45] landscaping requirements that
[2:14:47] standard water consumption,
[2:14:48] but the cooling that talking
[2:14:50] about other successful
[2:14:51] projects. It really comes down
[2:14:53] to open closed it's closed
[2:14:56] loop is evaporating reason
[2:14:57] cool. And that's that's where
[2:14:58] the technology is it's really
[2:14:59] efficient water obviously is
[2:15:02] the best. It's the a
[2:15:04] transistor transmitter of
[2:15:07] cooling rate. It's more
[2:15:08] efficient. But it consumes
[2:15:09] more if you're going to have
[2:15:10] on the property. So that's
[2:15:11] just decision for the
[2:15:19] commission.
[2:15:27] >> is there
[2:15:39] >> certain crops center.
[2:15:52] >> we need here. It.
[2:15:52] >> we need to be so that
[2:15:59] protect.
[2:16:03] >> absolutely and the.
[2:16:04] >> it's a valid concern, I'm
[2:16:04] sure some things do exist that
[2:16:06] came out about a month my
[2:16:07] head. We do have experts on
[2:16:08] the board happy to connect the
[2:16:11] board with them a few guys on
[2:16:12] have a conversation research
[2:16:14] afterwards and provide some
[2:16:14] studies. These are legitimate
[2:16:24] questions answered.
[2:16:31] >> down.
[2:16:35] >> not a many of those data
[2:16:41] centers
[2:16:43] >> so they writing down a lot
[2:16:49] of questions out there.
[2:16:50] >> I don't know specific
[2:16:51] instances of the purpose, but
[2:16:55] the general point is I
[2:16:56] questioned what what if this
[2:16:58] what if this underneath it.
[2:16:59] What do we do with the space
[2:17:02] basically. And the answer is
[2:17:03] well what do we do in my
[2:17:07] hometown on county. You know
[2:17:07] we had a major corporate
[2:17:09] leader, name, but they left
[2:17:13] they went out of business.
[2:17:16] Nasa space nasa space that was
[2:17:18] left behind chopped off mixed
[2:17:18] use now it's a commercial real
[2:17:23] savings is ultimately so.
[2:17:25] These things will succeed or
[2:17:26] fail these are businesses at
[2:17:29] the end of the day. What we're
[2:17:31] seeing is demand is not just
[2:17:33] increasing its rapidly
[2:17:34] exponentially increasing to
[2:17:35] the point where we are
[2:17:39] exploring innovative ideas
[2:17:40] like putting them on the
[2:17:41] bottom of the ocean space
[2:17:42] because demand is such that we
[2:17:45] need to find solutions. If
[2:17:47] there is a reality in which
[2:17:47] these go back earth. There's
[2:17:50] examples in 25 years ago that
[2:17:51] you know long you know was
[2:17:52] there just purpose for other
[2:17:55] commercial purposes.
[2:17:57] >> I have to do so.
[2:18:01] >> can
[2:18:07] >> so that number.
[2:18:23] >> for and wounded. So just to
[2:18:28] pay it. Commercial and
[2:18:29] residential road.
[2:18:32] >> but not
[2:18:33] >> cracked we do a master plan
[2:18:35] and the water master plan was
[2:18:36] done in 2023. We did not this
[2:18:40] on our what I'm hearing. It's
[2:18:41] about 23,000 gallons a day for
[2:18:47] effort that's lawson half of a
[2:18:49] percent of the water that we
[2:18:50] currently have not even the
[2:18:51] projected water, but water
[2:18:55] that we have in system so
[2:18:56] knowing that we do definitely
[2:18:56] have capacity for those
[2:19:03] numbers correct. And just.
[2:19:04] >> what reading and other
[2:19:07] areas that. The fire would be.
[2:19:23] We don't
[2:19:30] >> concrete really give our
[2:19:37] and that work is done have a.
[2:19:45] Advance have just how why and
[2:19:52] requires. 1 million 4
[2:19:53] 1 million. Additional gallons
[2:19:58] for a I hear correctly you
[2:20:05] would need 7 years. 2. Be able
[2:20:07] build that capacity
[2:20:10] >> yes that correct the
[2:20:14] language in our contract with
[2:20:15] you. 2.70 partnered together
[2:20:20] very if these numbers every
[2:20:20] year. But you don't know what
[2:20:21] you do though numbers were not
[2:20:22] included even last elections.
[2:20:25] I don't believe so. Any
[2:20:28] additional water over that 4.9
[2:20:29] that you can receiving
[2:20:30] starting about 2029 would have
[2:20:33] to constructed designed built
[2:20:37] as an additional 42.
[2:20:44] >> thank you question the
[2:20:54] there's data center being 7.
[2:20:56] The maybe if made the
[2:21:02] assumption.
[2:21:17] >> thanks to on day is phase
[2:21:20] phase 2
[2:21:25] >> I think it's project I
[2:21:26] don't know what the plans of
[2:21:27] the project I would assume the
[2:21:30] staff that are in the project
[2:21:31] does plans financial it's very
[2:21:31] project depending on how they
[2:21:34] roll out how they operate.
[2:21:39] >> you also mention. I think
[2:21:51] was. 3 yeah, but you mentioned
[2:21:55] that and for center developer
[2:21:57] doesn't deliver what they said
[2:22:04] they for what are punishments
[2:22:05] and are you aware data
[2:22:10] centers.
[2:22:13] >> because provision so
[2:22:14] chapter is a florida law to
[2:22:18] mention going back to the
[2:22:18] early 70's that requires there
[2:22:25] are but a report basically any
[2:22:26] major development do and are
[2:22:30] now water use and then that is
[2:22:31] value weighted by the water
[2:22:31] management district and the
[2:22:33] department environmental
[2:22:34] protection to get the
[2:22:35] consumptive use permit launch.
[2:22:40] So so literally to say a data
[2:22:42] center will launch in training
[2:22:45] the floor of the florida from
[2:22:47] area. It could not launch
[2:22:48] without the proper evaluation
[2:22:53] done to right. If some some
[2:22:56] malfeasance was some trickery
[2:22:59] was done just by accident it's
[2:23:00] consuming more. The answer
[2:23:03] your question directly is we
[2:23:04] have not had any major got to
[2:23:06] senator dole out in florida
[2:23:06] despite numerous other states
[2:23:10] in the country. So we have not
[2:23:11] tested that before however we
[2:23:14] have a 50 year framework.
[2:23:16] Chapter 3.73 giving forsman
[2:23:19] power to the water management
[2:23:19] district to department
[2:23:22] environmental protection. Are
[2:23:22] you forcing the standards and
[2:23:25] do have the force in part and
[2:23:26] I that's probably a better
[2:23:29] question for your city
[2:23:30] attorney but I would we don't
[2:23:32] have we have not approved a
[2:23:33] single project of that scale
[2:23:36] in the state. So we have even
[2:23:39] tested my assumption would be
[2:23:40] it would be a continuation of
[2:23:43] the enforcement pattern that
[2:23:44] we've live on in the state for
[2:23:45] my entire with the winds and
[2:23:46] the living life and I'm sure
[2:23:48] many others in the in this
[2:23:50] room that has been effective.
[2:23:52] But we with I guess we shall
[2:24:00] see because we do
[2:24:10] >> day. All.
[2:24:14] >> MAY the very but comes to
[2:24:17] mind where.
[2:24:22] >> mentioned you know
[2:24:32] >> but year is. We're is here.
[2:24:33] And it is problem for this
[2:24:37] place. For that guy. For that
[2:24:41] question to sir. There's a lot
[2:24:42] questions that have to be
[2:24:46] answered in this is you know
[2:24:49] position or your physician. We
[2:24:55] but need to be by why are
[2:25:00] staff. Okay and these
[2:25:02] questions are all dollars.
[2:25:08] Only for years. Was. Are you
[2:25:22] going to be using a for well.
[2:25:23] Do you have for you.
[2:25:31] Can you show me. 50 MAY was
[2:25:35] center. So is past 20500
[2:25:43] employees. Koch, a
[2:25:43] construction you're correct,
[2:25:44] you know you're going you
[2:25:52] know. Years there you know
[2:25:59] told. Both permanent jobs. You
[2:26:01] know security garza are the
[2:26:08] actual. This is electricity
[2:26:14] travel. Okay. Servers
[2:26:16] basically a computer. It just
[2:26:22] there. Switches. Billy's
[2:26:29] transistors. Operating. People
[2:26:35] will come in. Do to make sure
[2:26:45] they ron do e. Figured rulers
[2:26:47] if since there's going love me
[2:26:50] that shouldn't be there. Today
[2:26:55] that state with weak system.
[2:26:56] How all of the fans are going
[2:27:02] need to okay over the and were
[2:27:05] the is going and that's more
[2:27:12] of that users. You know
[2:27:20] alright consider. It's you.
[2:27:20] >> we're going to go on into a
[2:27:29] second round city we're
[2:27:34] talking about 2 more of these.
[2:27:34] And a few years are we looking
[2:27:36] trying to do while
[2:27:39] >> moving forward with that
[2:27:44] please some sort of
[2:27:45] informational speakers current
[2:27:45] updates and once we get
[2:27:48] information on what the actual
[2:27:48] plans are.
[2:27:55] >> maybe do it workshop on
[2:27:58] because the public needs to to
[2:27:59] be would not he's not going to
[2:28:01] be 6 months down the road
[2:28:02] going to we're going to try do
[2:28:03] this my way to where we can
[2:28:04] update citizens keep them on
[2:28:09] board.
[2:28:11] >> comes their commissioners
[2:28:12] with because we questions and
[2:28:13] answers from the public except
[2:28:17] for your public comment. Is
[2:28:18] also a question you MAY want
[2:28:23] had asked durham commission
[2:28:29] workshop so I just want we've
[2:28:30] got we're going to take a 15
[2:28:32] minute break it's a 25 will be
[2:28:41] your 7 years. Learned a lot
[2:28:41] still learning every one of
[2:28:49] the greatest thing about the
[2:28:55] job is
[2:28:58] >> just throw the conditions
[2:29:06] of all set. This responders so
[2:29:13] there detail. 40 long to for
[2:29:25] most and told can station
[2:29:30] staff staff over to and
[2:29:38] information. You too. Started
[2:29:47] if your because conservatives
[2:29:48] >> was that this would be last
[2:29:50] dance state of florida.
[2:29:54] >> sure you. The soared.
[2:30:05] Commissioners. But status. And
[2:30:13] of the state legislatures.
[2:30:14] Love science. So it's very
[2:30:17] accessible with ease to access
[2:30:18] those areas. And the question
[2:30:21] for board member who was safe.
[2:30:29] Is. Finalize. And we'll see
[2:30:33] the. The to way is is not
[2:30:43] safe. And sure recall, to what
[2:30:47] extent it's safe animals. But
[2:30:47] it's not safe for animals,
[2:30:48] think it's safe
[2:30:50] but the this is just too.
[2:31:00] Pretty of you know this
[2:31:06] project. Discussing both
[2:31:12] steering perez to have over
[2:31:16] like I said can create source.
[2:31:28] Here show about we need space
[2:31:36] technology with become. As
[2:31:43] backwards so. For example
[2:31:55] people. As it gets cold there
[2:31:59] U.S. This people. No they
[2:32:09] don't. Said china 70 days us.
[2:32:17] Stands 4,700 probably. World.
[2:32:21] They and to be fair. Reason
[2:32:24] though staff is popping
[2:32:27] everywhere. Understand
[2:32:29] knowledge every day. But
[2:32:32] profit. It's purely profit
[2:32:38] too. Because they sell space.
[2:32:46] Storage and. Well ball. I just
[2:32:50] want you know. Have to wait
[2:32:59] see was going come off.
[2:33:02] Certainly from where started.
[2:33:06] That is the need to supply.
[2:33:07] For those he's not going to be
[2:33:15] sufficient. Way. Trista city
[2:33:25] that's when guys to have
[2:33:26] something innovative and that
[2:33:32] is it's the other. Generators.
[2:33:40] And if we you know. Far 7
[2:33:46] days, whatever. And something
[2:33:51] into discussion to discuss. So
[2:33:54] will lead forward. With that
[2:33:59] they desire leave that was my
[2:34:04] question. Jeremy and the water
[2:34:09] side if it comes to. You know
[2:34:14] just our land. Stays. Can you
[2:34:18] request the worst it. Question
[2:34:27] to and well this
[2:34:28] >> yes, sir, part of our
[2:34:30] normal development review
[2:34:33] process don't be the what did
[2:34:37] band would be past year of u.
[2:34:38] We would through a deep dive
[2:34:39] in this process which
[2:34:45] unfortunately not there yet.
[2:34:46] >> and how take specific part
[2:34:50] because not just simple do
[2:34:57] space for we
[2:35:00] >> we're used to treat
[2:35:01] patients move that vary when
[2:35:03] we do our water master plans
[2:35:03] just for the city and how we
[2:35:04] evaluate takes about a year
[2:35:07] for a master plan.
[2:35:09] >> so along with that.
[2:35:18] Because I think you know
[2:35:21] place.
[2:35:22] Just
[2:35:28] I the city. To this. This is
[2:35:32] meant to
[2:35:38] >> commissioners to sort of so
[2:35:42] weird thing to from process
[2:35:43] here you know I said when I
[2:35:46] first I think pretty obvious
[2:35:51] that. Well we don't have
[2:35:55] details yet exactly said these
[2:35:55] people plan on building
[2:35:56] presume that close system that
[2:36:04] said. I was yes they pow it's
[2:36:07] an electrical substation the
[2:36:11] evaporation. The evacuation.
[2:36:16] That's a station. It's going
[2:36:17] to be 2 billion gallons a
[2:36:29] year. Reality that might be.
[2:36:34] Power is being very. The lee
[2:36:34] unclear there's not the
[2:36:39] capacity. To provide that kind
[2:36:40] of war all those system is
[2:36:46] going to take water. We so it
[2:36:50] depends use it or using over
[2:36:51] led you to moving the process
[2:36:56] we said ok. What's available
[2:36:57] out there the logic avoid
[2:37:05] usual dollars. To replace for
[2:37:06] us there suspicions. Well,
[2:37:11] yeah, got so worried no win.
[2:37:15] All's whether or not this
[2:37:26] apple we are okay so.
[2:37:28] The of the moratorium that we
[2:37:35] in we just or stop it doesn't
[2:37:39] last all the process. If
[2:37:44] >> stop process.
[2:37:46] >> okay on secondary we killed
[2:37:46] field we decided you know
[2:37:51] let's it. It stopped happens.
[2:37:55] we will there how way we will
[2:38:01] never father was and you worry
[2:38:02] at all. The only solution soon
[2:38:06] to because they said they
[2:38:13] develop we've know commit
[2:38:13] anything to address anything
[2:38:19] to solve they MAY never be
[2:38:21] able to solve our satisfaction
[2:38:23] but is a so impossible the
[2:38:31] what loss. Poor. Making is no
[2:38:35] before we know the because
[2:38:37] right now there's no it's
[2:38:38] going to be able powers saying
[2:38:44] there's no you system. I don't
[2:38:45] you so could use solar moved
[2:38:50] here when or anything so the
[2:38:52] reality think project is quite
[2:38:58] frankly, we stopped ourselves
[2:39:03] I think we go to the citizens
[2:39:05] of this city, but the city
[2:39:10] itself to I don't feel you
[2:39:12] know that's need to learn I
[2:39:17] don't think even all they're
[2:39:18] part part of that they serve
[2:39:19] if you look at location in
[2:39:26] cars our it specifically work.
[2:39:32] They sent her a cell maney.
[2:39:39] Will say from seconds spent
[2:39:41] which what palin whole lot all
[2:39:46] home look at. You how it's
[2:39:49] going to be doesn't meet our
[2:39:50] standards and all of we get
[2:39:52] regulation. Strong words
[2:39:57] relations and we help for
[2:39:58] that. Our variable of war and
[2:40:03] coal resources to these do it.
[2:40:04] So that we can assure
[2:40:06] ourselves and we were there
[2:40:13] forward. Made a stand for this
[2:40:15] deal happening. I'm seeing way
[2:40:16] proceed with this because I as
[2:40:24] I said we're over city of we
[2:40:26] here and we show at second
[2:40:27] reading show going to issue
[2:40:32] just we said I just see
[2:40:39] because in in my I don't way.
[2:40:45] This is ever ever be able to I
[2:40:48] just I feel that we've got
[2:40:49] movie set before becomes
[2:40:52] extremely obvious that it can
[2:40:56] done to our satisfaction keep
[2:40:57] this in perspective because
[2:41:01] this is going to be a process.
[2:41:01] Ok going to solved overnight
[2:41:04] and one thing elected
[2:41:11] officials I really got
[2:41:13] patience allow some work some
[2:41:17] of because the what where the
[2:41:23] care patients simply shows to
[2:41:24] reject with people projects
[2:41:28] because do things and now su
[2:41:38] over money. Painful to pay for
[2:41:40] that what I want is to make
[2:41:42] sure that this for the he's
[2:41:45] got shouldn't happen. But that
[2:41:54] happen the way says.
[2:41:55] >> I it just couple of quick
[2:41:56] ones couple general questions
[2:41:57] sunday.
[2:42:09] >> times for think I'm getting
[2:42:10] a clearer idea what hyperscale
[2:42:12] data center is isn't. I want
[2:42:14] question him is the cloud.
[2:42:19] Data centers.
[2:42:21] >> did they generate the same
[2:42:25] need for power for scale does.
[2:42:30] >> so the answer to that is.
[2:42:31] That's going to be a cloud of
[2:42:31] cloud is just the physical
[2:42:35] infrastructure of the you know
[2:42:37] when when we we signed up for
[2:42:38] microsoft's engine to go
[2:42:39] somewhere that document goes
[2:42:39] so it goes somewhere right so
[2:42:41] it could be. Could be a
[2:42:42] co-location hyper scape very
[2:42:43] likely as I first got this
[2:42:48] microsoft. Essentially the
[2:42:48] short answer is any size could
[2:42:53] be a
[2:42:55] >> that you know you get a
[2:42:55] small yeah they're all
[2:42:57] essentially operating costs.
[2:43:03] >> thank you.
[2:43:03] >> colocation is more like the
[2:43:04] rent it's a
[2:43:08] implications of I mean I sense
[2:43:14] was.
[2:43:14] >> I.
[2:43:15] >> requires so power and say
[2:43:16] entire structure is all
[2:43:23] connected. Occasions soda. In
[2:43:29] the energy. Requirements okay
[2:43:29] for for sure.
[2:43:37] >> colocation years canned
[2:43:37] they're generally not
[2:43:39] large-scale facilities right
[2:43:42] seeing those all over the
[2:43:43] state. Those are operating,
[2:43:46] I'm sure tampa. I'm sure in on
[2:43:47] the ceiling. They are they can
[2:43:51] be in a. It can be in office
[2:43:52] of warehouse area district
[2:43:55] they can be a storage unit, I
[2:43:57] mean these things very inside
[2:44:01] saying I'm so they can be
[2:44:02] anywhere from. I mean I would
[2:44:04] say they're definitely less
[2:44:04] than 50 megawatts is what I
[2:44:08] would say they're generally
[2:44:09] significantly less which is
[2:44:11] why there's really not the
[2:44:13] controversy around and they
[2:44:13] don't increased to these
[2:44:18] massive numbers because that's
[2:44:18] it's like it's like buying a
[2:44:19] 100 homes in the neighborhood
[2:44:22] of them all out some of
[2:44:24] operators want to you know via
[2:44:25] 5 homes and rent out those
[2:44:25] so that on the site's okay
[2:44:26] that's a good analogy. I
[2:44:31] appreciate it.
[2:44:34] >> monday night came up with
[2:44:35] interesting suggestion like to
[2:44:40] see if you are aware eunice
[2:44:41] the pallet requiring or
[2:44:46] hyperscale datacenters
[2:44:50] >> but they suggested that the
[2:44:51] developer she says via set
[2:44:53] aside some kind protest.
[2:44:58] >> money to correct any
[2:44:58] potential.
[2:44:59] >> anticipated environmental
[2:45:03] impacts are you aware that
[2:45:04] happening.
[2:45:05] >> I'm not I'm happy to
[2:45:07] research it send results yeah
[2:45:09] I think core principle there
[2:45:10] is these things need to be
[2:45:13] negotiated intelligently. The
[2:45:18] discussions to so in this
[2:45:19] particular for this particular
[2:45:20] project because seems like it
[2:45:20] was it was carved out I
[2:45:24] believe the other night. When
[2:45:26] you when you communities stuck
[2:45:27] in these more times you do you
[2:45:27] know able to have these
[2:45:38] conversations.
[2:45:39] >> thank you very much for
[2:45:43] being we really I mean the
[2:45:44] information.
[2:45:48] >> we probably fact was thank
[2:45:52] you very much for coming
[2:45:57] >> give the you tell
[2:45:58] >> and sitting calm public
[2:46:01] comment on this I
[2:46:05] >> person yes, it survey. And
[2:46:17] tim
[2:46:18] >> good evening jen costa
[2:46:19] again.
[2:46:23] >> appreciate.
[2:46:24] >> the information we heard
[2:46:28] from the experts tonight as
[2:46:28] everybody has made the
[2:46:32] distinction very clear.
[2:46:35] Presentation is not yet okay
[2:46:36] shun. We can hear stories work
[2:46:38] senators can do what they
[2:46:44] typically do. And what they
[2:46:45] MAY use. But what matters
[2:46:47] to north port is what the par.
[2:46:51] We'll actually do.
[2:46:52] >> we still don't know what
[2:46:53] cooling technology. The park
[2:46:55] will actually use.
[2:46:57] Commissioner still some so
[2:47:02] said presumably.
[2:47:03] >> that's one of those with
[2:47:03] words commissioner petros
[2:47:07] mansion.
[2:47:09] >> and that's particularly
[2:47:12] important because the city's
[2:47:13] own correction comments
[2:47:16] specifically work by the
[2:47:17] applicant to provide details
[2:47:21] on industrial past seas. We
[2:47:22] still don't have the project
[2:47:27] specific support calculation.
[2:47:27] >> for the 100 see assumption
[2:47:31] underlying its water
[2:47:33] calculation we check claiming
[2:47:34] average potable demand a
[2:47:37] 15,000 gallons per day
[2:47:40] proposes a wastewater
[2:47:41] treatment plant people believe
[2:47:44] treating half million gallons.
[2:47:44] Those questions about either
[2:47:47] sent there's generally there
[2:47:47] are questions about this
[2:47:53] application can. Could
[2:47:55] presumably assuming in
[2:47:58] typically are not commitments.
[2:47:59] Anyone remember the bridge on
[2:48:04] tuscola. And court understands
[2:48:07] why distinction matters a
[2:48:09] benefit development review is
[2:48:09] very different from an
[2:48:10] obligation that is actually
[2:48:14] written down forcible. The
[2:48:15] city is approving a
[2:48:17] hypothetical data center. It
[2:48:20] said that only waiting this
[2:48:22] one. It's a representation
[2:48:24] about water use cooling
[2:48:25] technology or infrastructure
[2:48:26] is important enough to really
[2:48:29] reassure this community
[2:48:29] tonight. It's important not to
[2:48:32] put in the application after 2
[2:48:33] submissions we shouldn't have
[2:48:35] to rely with this project
[2:48:36] could be the application
[2:48:39] should tell us what it is and
[2:48:39] just for everybody is
[2:48:43] knowledge just yesterday.
[2:48:44] Congress held a hearing on
[2:48:47] legislation to designate all
[2:48:48] 34 miles of the myakka river
[2:48:51] and sarasota county as wild
[2:48:52] and scenic that specifically
[2:48:55] recognizes north port's
[2:48:56] commitment to protecting the
[2:48:59] through its comprehensive plan
[2:49:03] and land development
[2:49:04] regulations that makes getting
[2:49:04] the watershed and receiving
[2:49:06] water analysis right,
[2:49:07] especially important. Thank
[2:49:21] you.
[2:49:23] Well evening, everybody.
[2:49:30] >> quite workshop. Now as the
[2:49:42] e p. To say you left. MISTER
[2:49:44] Said listening to and I want
[2:49:48] right now. This year cities
[2:49:57] grew. So saying. It's college.
[2:50:05] >> it's
[2:50:08] >> should never feel are real
[2:50:14] similar bill gatherings
[2:50:17] >> you know the best richard
[2:50:19] pearson said appeared it to 72
[2:50:26] years several 7. The expansion
[2:50:45] the peace
[2:50:46] >> insists it work on it for
[2:50:47] the last 3, 4, years at the
[2:50:52] podium. But I want to tell you
[2:50:53] to a warning that went out the
[2:50:56] f and window with me. Deserve
[2:51:04] better.
[2:51:05] >> we're going to start making
[2:51:16] an example and never and to
[2:51:26] it. And you should be
[2:51:27] listening to your city
[2:51:28] attorney because I heard a lot
[2:51:30] of in this state, good jobs
[2:51:36] are.
[2:51:36] >> I could turn I don't like
[2:51:45] them at
[2:51:49] >> top expert least 8 my was a
[2:51:50] management consultant to grow
[2:51:51] up with a management
[2:51:55] consultant in your but not
[2:51:56] there was one of the top this
[2:51:59] country in world, the world.
[2:52:05] Expect taxable. College
[2:52:13] degree. You fortunate to
[2:52:22] expertise. This is a no for
[2:52:22] the entire state of florida
[2:52:40] city manager.
[2:52:41] >> my
[2:52:42] >> name is sent name as you
[2:52:43] all know for those that are
[2:52:45] still here if anyone is out
[2:52:47] there and wants interview
[2:52:49] maybe because we only have 3
[2:52:51] minutes please reach out to me
[2:52:52] and let me know because this
[2:52:56] farce complete farce this
[2:52:57] workshop. Each every one of
[2:52:58] these people are trying to
[2:53:01] convey this year and ahead
[2:53:08] first of showing all all they
[2:53:10] could use at news that the
[2:53:13] reason they cannot use that
[2:53:16] the thing that they out a
[2:53:17] hunch was that you have to put
[2:53:28] use it said was and as put you
[2:53:32] guys don't want to be a poster
[2:53:34] child that was that recorder
[2:53:35] for either, so I think that
[2:53:46] talked about
[2:53:47] >> you that's what just so
[2:53:52] they use there's not a single
[2:53:57] municipality have the to
[2:54:07] prepared me for centers that
[2:54:11] 2000 counties now also in the
[2:54:11] state asking why me because
[2:54:14] they're saying that it's
[2:54:17] unconstitutional so 80% of
[2:54:17] state has the power and don't
[2:54:24] have power. But dissenters pay
[2:54:26] for anything because they
[2:54:29] complaining they have any so
[2:54:43] to to get have admit trying to
[2:54:50] get as you reach out to me you
[2:54:52] this has so there are
[2:54:53] situation you're going to get
[2:54:58] the water and 7 not her
[2:55:00] already going to pay for the
[2:55:03] part and then they're going to
[2:55:06] be able sell because of s p
[2:55:11] not allowed to put terrorism
[2:55:13] much of regulation want come
[2:55:16] so and the state of the
[2:55:18] constitution she in apartment
[2:55:19] put the ball at the time of
[2:55:25] the department concept. But
[2:55:26] all that and regulations don't
[2:55:33] have anything now happening in
[2:55:34] the state of have control over
[2:55:40] any of the snap. I just do it.
[2:55:41] >> because of lawsuit thank
[2:55:43] you sir, thank you.
[2:55:51] You're you. We are a
[2:55:56] >> I am only emerge. I'd like
[2:55:59] to advocate for data center
[2:56:00] task force that would be made
[2:56:01] up of stakeholders including
[2:56:02] at least one resident who
[2:56:05] lives within 2 miles of the
[2:56:06] proposed site and others like
[2:56:10] robin or hand. Or or lockhart
[2:56:15] from the environmental
[2:56:16] conservancy and who would
[2:56:17] study the appropriate zoning
[2:56:19] districts maintaining separate
[2:56:22] distances data centers
[2:56:22] schools.
[2:56:23] >> and neighborhood noise.
[2:56:24] Mitigation acoustic study is
[2:56:29] cooling. Discharge
[2:56:30] requirements back up solar and
[2:56:32] other generators fuel storage,
[2:56:33] noise and air pollution health
[2:56:38] issues.
[2:56:42] >> lightning visibility
[2:56:43] requirements and the public
[2:56:43] notifications and community
[2:56:44] engagement as required
[2:56:49] >> for a while. There is a
[2:56:50] have been held up due to state
[2:56:53] water permits and diesel
[2:56:54] issues. These are some of that
[2:57:00] the committee could in and
[2:57:00] then make recommendations back
[2:57:04] to the city commission when
[2:57:07] they're working on doing a
[2:57:08] ordinances.
[2:57:08] >> I believe that committee
[2:57:11] made up of.
[2:57:12] >> stakeholders in this
[2:57:15] community and others will be a
[2:57:18] great asset to the city. Door
[2:57:20] in 18 month or thank you for
[2:57:35] consideration.
[2:57:38] >> well I'm rate or resident
[2:57:39] of port and I want to come
[2:57:40] thank all of the commissioners
[2:57:46] so city attorney. This
[2:57:50] workshop is way everybody's.
[2:57:51] Need to understand what is
[2:57:53] really 80's. How often the 2
[2:57:57] issues every single day.
[2:57:58] Person uses a data center a in
[2:58:01] 4 times a day. That's just
[2:58:04] showing your smart device.
[2:58:07] Asking to not through with
[2:58:09] this more important. The
[2:58:15] reason is necessary.
[2:58:15] >> as we work to it takes 2
[2:58:18] years to build them anyway. On
[2:58:19] top the fact you've got to
[2:58:23] find out about the water. The
[2:58:25] and you know maybe it's going
[2:58:27] to take longer anyway. We also
[2:58:30] don't know enough about. What
[2:58:33] this development going to be
[2:58:34] is it going to be a megawatt
[2:58:36] site we don't know that. When
[2:58:36] there's a lot of centrists
[2:58:42] tonight. That effort. I
[2:58:43] learned a long time ago never
[2:58:44] make assumptions you're almost
[2:58:47] always going to be wrong. I
[2:58:47] worked in it sector for 15
[2:58:51] years. I've been inside
[2:58:54] center's of installing a lot
[2:58:54] reporting, iran tables, I were
[2:58:55] in fire and that works.
[2:58:57] They're now out. I'm not
[2:59:02] there. I've been many of them.
[2:59:03] Throughout you have traveled
[2:59:06] the country doing out can. Now
[2:59:10] I'm here in port. And you me
[2:59:14] understand but. 110.
[2:59:20] Dissenters. Plan for up to a
[2:59:21] lot more. They range from
[2:59:21] anywhere from 10 megawatts to
[2:59:26] 40 megawatts. For the smaller
[2:59:26] we have a new north port I
[2:59:31] guarantee you don't know in
[2:59:31] just a blank in the building
[2:59:35] grab a beverage they want no.
[2:59:37] There's also walmart and
[2:59:37] center's public said a
[2:59:39] sanders. I guarantee a focal
[2:59:44] point as every time you know
[2:59:46] uss anything when you're full.
[2:59:50] You're accessing days
[2:59:51] everybody in this room even on
[2:59:54] monday maybe 500 people here.
[2:59:55] Everybody when there is always
[2:59:59] that. Every time they went
[3:00:00] from playing on facebook about
[3:00:00] you all here. They're using it
[3:00:04] isn't. Really want to get
[3:00:07] across commissioners here. You
[3:00:12] people that live in newark.
[3:00:12] It's not just people here
[3:00:20] posing okay. Where we're just
[3:00:20] in the beginning stages,
[3:00:23] what's about to happen. We're
[3:00:24] we're in the next big this is
[3:00:25] like when the internet first
[3:00:29] started. This is where we are.
[3:00:32] Is that where you're going to
[3:00:33] be here. What I'm asking you
[3:00:34] all and have a challenge do.
[3:00:35] >> is that your
[3:00:58] >> thank you, thank thank you.
[3:00:58] >> but I don't really have a
[3:01:00] script from
[3:01:04] >> talk about
[3:01:05] >> everybody is talking about
[3:01:07] the logistics of how the state
[3:01:08] senate and the sales person
[3:01:12] who came off. What's going
[3:01:16] now. Should to say how wants
[3:01:21] this nobody here wants to
[3:01:26] that. Well that people here
[3:01:28] one day and 3 know there's for
[3:01:29] wanted it plays pops.
[3:01:33] >> regardless. The majority do
[3:01:35] not want the vocal majority.
[3:01:38] People concerned. But why is
[3:01:39] it not enough that nobody
[3:01:40] wants this. This was plan a
[3:01:44] secret. You know it was never
[3:01:45] brought to the public to you
[3:01:48] know that it there was votes
[3:01:48] we don't really know how many
[3:01:49] people want this how many
[3:01:50] people doubt. It's just the
[3:01:55] word the developers you know I
[3:01:57] don't know name was technology
[3:01:58] guy. Doesn't work. But I'm
[3:01:59] sure sounds like is really
[3:02:07] selling there's fun eckstein
[3:02:09] was really good marvin ski was
[3:02:10] one of the founding fathers
[3:02:12] and ai that's kind of like a.
[3:02:17] Heard same bill gates. The you
[3:02:17] know people who made this
[3:02:20] technology. Not very
[3:02:22] trustworthy people got very
[3:02:24] grateful. I just don't trust
[3:02:27] and course playful about you
[3:02:31] know officers about the
[3:02:32] environment and the noise
[3:02:33] pollution that haven't been
[3:02:35] addressed says and we still
[3:02:36] want to make it work happening
[3:02:37] work.
[3:02:40] >> we don't want work we do
[3:02:41] nobody asked for except the
[3:02:47] developers paired
[3:02:49] >> and they are monday was for
[3:02:52] 2.
[3:03:07] >> thank you
[3:03:08] >> well I can room was
[3:03:10] alarming.
[3:03:13] >> we've got 6 those
[3:03:14] applications. You know no idea
[3:03:16] what you accept
[3:03:19] >> you know you know hour from
[3:03:21] how much for.
[3:03:26] >> what kind of system. But
[3:03:27] the war. You've got pose tech
[3:03:33] and you don't. So seems to
[3:03:33] really grow what kind of data
[3:03:38] collected here. You know you
[3:03:39] guys put out my welcome
[3:03:40] images, it's got your pictures
[3:03:41] your great, it's always play.
[3:03:44] What is a tough loss ever.
[3:03:47] Water for clark that's a 4th
[3:03:55] amendment violation. We've got
[3:03:55] dressing from sides of should
[3:04:02] we do it. That's all I said,
[3:04:02] but I think you guys should
[3:04:04] homework. Get your act
[3:04:19] together.
[3:04:27] >> hello there for PRESIDENT.
[3:04:28] So this is an issue that
[3:04:30] deeply resonates with me in my
[3:04:34] community we see. So I just
[3:04:39] want to start the same. And
[3:04:39] we'll continue to say that we
[3:04:40] to this issue objectively with
[3:04:42] and use it. But then
[3:04:46] immediately go get military.
[3:04:47] As a company want to do what's
[3:04:52] best for us. And we need to be
[3:04:52] critical in how we view and
[3:04:53] consider the plan for this and
[3:04:57] it the for service. That's
[3:05:04] exactly what mortuary give us.
[3:05:05] And just they get I don't
[3:05:05] think anyone is for that
[3:05:10] because of the impact will
[3:05:15] present reasonable. They're
[3:05:16] saying takes 7 years to prove
[3:05:16] prepare and construct
[3:05:17] necessary infrastructure for
[3:05:20] the water. And 2 years on top
[3:05:24] of to build a data center.
[3:05:26] That's already 9 years living
[3:05:27] taking tell of delays her can
[3:05:29] be a concern that months to
[3:05:30] recover from. We don't have
[3:05:32] over the course of 9 years
[3:05:36] that's going be on the decade.
[3:05:36] So tell us what I hope for
[3:05:37] money will be invested into
[3:05:42] that. It is time national
[3:05:44] resources are diminishing
[3:05:45] about speeds and climate
[3:05:46] change is showing effects
[3:05:48] across the world and more and
[3:05:49] species are becoming
[3:05:52] endangered little mix tape. We
[3:05:53] as a society being my full
[3:05:56] house. We manage our resources
[3:05:59] and what effect time. In our
[3:06:01] community. In our state
[3:06:04] dinner. For the in the world.
[3:06:05] You guys are making decisions
[3:06:06] for the next generation.
[3:06:11] Whatever you decide those
[3:06:12] effects will come back to us
[3:06:12] in those responsibilities with
[3:06:15] all of us so I just asked
[3:06:16] consider that is I love and I
[3:06:30] think speaks inc.
[3:06:34] >> I this is just for we're
[3:06:36] doing on one's for this time
[3:06:39] then general will be to me I
[3:06:43] been able speak to do put it
[3:06:43] because we have a general
[3:06:45] comment coming up next. Just
[3:06:48] say we're not
[3:07:06] >> she's going to do the
[3:12:56] >> house negatively impact our
[3:13:00] surrounding national
[3:13:05] environmental. Constant
[3:13:06] exposure to such panic attacks
[3:13:06] changes in animal behavior, 7
[3:13:12] engines and us. You household
[3:13:18] and when process. There's just
[3:13:26] there 1020 jobs. But they or
[3:13:28] security certainly city with
[3:13:29] the presence of a for city
[3:13:30] commissioners to a track and
[3:13:37] structure dozen or north deal.
[3:13:40] For the proposed comment city
[3:13:41] staff assembling presentation
[3:13:48] is easy presentation to file a
[3:13:49] motion are starting to present
[3:13:54] all sides they work extremely
[3:13:56] one side the making us believe
[3:14:00] it was assembled by about to
[3:14:05] it pollution. Continuous going
[3:14:10] and furious testing of diesel
[3:14:22] generators, nearby pollution.
[3:14:23] Particular service land and
[3:14:24] habitat loss for thousands of
[3:14:25] acres leading to the loss of
[3:14:30] agricultural land. Open
[3:14:36] something for impact on the
[3:14:46] city as a whole want to just
[3:14:51] for action but for their edge
[3:14:53] because in our region we need
[3:14:55] absolute transparency
[3:14:57] regarding where it's going or
[3:15:04] comes from and city engineers
[3:15:05] answer the millions of gallons
[3:15:09] of water per day average one
[3:15:16] system. Long-term especially
[3:15:17] to season when regional supply
[3:15:20] base natural strain. Drinking
[3:15:20] water nation will city
[3:15:29] guarantee. Utility will always
[3:15:33] take going need pass raindrop
[3:15:36] emergency kind contamination
[3:15:40] rest point have frequently to
[3:15:45] provide we just was this
[3:15:47] enough for all place to ensure
[3:15:56] toxic end to our regional that
[3:15:57] point remaining high trade
[3:16:03] countries that. Capitals where
[3:16:07] is about 10 to discharge is
[3:16:10] waste struck in the structure
[3:16:10] safely process contaminating
[3:16:17] our surrounding bar.
[3:16:17] >> we cannot were to its
[3:16:26] safety or destination. Thank
[3:16:28] you taking the time to listen
[3:16:35] to constituents anywhere else.
[3:16:36] Says do being built in any of
[3:16:40] our surrounding areas, labor
[3:16:41] me of our collective ability
[3:16:45] to officially on to the
[3:16:48] earners should predicted and
[3:16:51] happened utility cost test
[3:16:52] hawaii and pass an increase of
[3:16:55] fossil fuel use leading to
[3:16:59] worsen climate change their
[3:17:01] risk to people's physical all
[3:17:04] economic health of job was
[3:17:06] pass these systems surrounding
[3:17:07] properties businesses schools,
[3:17:12] care facilities
[3:17:14] >> see city and other states
[3:17:17] at regulations and
[3:17:18] institutions with friend
[3:17:19] change really our national
[3:17:27] disasters are not strachan's.
[3:17:28] Fact exaggerate facing
[3:17:29] environmental economic and
[3:17:32] health issues also we need to
[3:17:42] index potential prizes where
[3:17:42] our we were worsening
[3:17:50] strategies. Class using the
[3:17:53] power can to see greater
[3:17:54] entire nation of citizens with
[3:18:01] passengers and meant seemed
[3:18:02] real leaders to fight the side
[3:18:04] of people said.
[3:18:11] >> move to our final
[3:18:12] >> first first last
[3:18:23] has answered.
[3:18:24] >> good evening and thank you
[3:18:26] that's one place like
[3:18:27] definitely would not want to
[3:18:28] be tonight the last few nights
[3:18:32] is a guys so. So I just want
[3:18:35] to say a couple what they
[3:18:36] would like to see after this
[3:18:40] battle is for maybe the city
[3:18:40] attorney to work with
[3:18:41] everybody in creating a dozen
[3:18:44] or ordinance for the city. I
[3:18:47] think there would be good
[3:18:47] moving forward for everybody
[3:18:48] least set ground rules say you
[3:18:49] know we want this and don't
[3:18:53] want this. Obviously from
[3:18:54] public comment the last couple
[3:18:57] stuff that's something
[3:18:58] the people or citizens
[3:19:00] of north port long I don't
[3:19:04] think it's because people
[3:19:06] against that's on we all enjoy
[3:19:07] picking up our cell phones
[3:19:09] being able to access facebook
[3:19:10] and and be able to read our
[3:19:13] e-mails are making notes.
[3:19:14] That's not a bad thing you
[3:19:18] know just keeps a small kids
[3:19:20] is working. But thing when
[3:19:21] they built these data centers
[3:19:24] cities that 5 natural
[3:19:25] resources already or low on
[3:19:28] water as it is over struck
[3:19:30] shuns and yet these guys want
[3:19:30] to come in and take over much
[3:19:34] of our resources that we just
[3:19:35] don't have I think that we
[3:19:36] need some ground rules
[3:19:37] and stuff in the future. I
[3:19:42] think that's a good for.
[3:19:43] >> couple things that I want
[3:19:44] to point out in regard to the
[3:19:48] ordinance the data center
[3:19:48] ordinance.
[3:19:49] >> calls sierra club and so
[3:19:54] believe that was. They've got
[3:19:55] some ordinance informational
[3:19:56] stuff on their website its
[3:20:00] year dot org. I mean it's a
[3:20:01] great resources to look up to
[3:20:02] see what some of the other
[3:20:05] jurisdictions to suffer do it.
[3:20:06] There's also some the stuff
[3:20:09] that I think look at they're
[3:20:11] doing studies that I think
[3:20:11] texas regarding the
[3:20:16] environmental health impacts
[3:20:18] showing that there is increase
[3:20:18] in asthma premature deaths and
[3:20:22] due to stephanie area. Witness
[3:20:27] to a 3 mile radius and stuff.
[3:20:28] So that's something that we
[3:20:29] might want to look at as far
[3:20:32] some air quality monitor noise
[3:20:32] and other. I know you guys
[3:20:33] talk about noise ordinances
[3:20:38] stuff earlier.
[3:20:39] >> one of the other arizona
[3:20:44] maricopa it's pretty famous
[3:20:45] county. But they're canceling
[3:20:45] infrastructure improvements
[3:20:46] laying off or new homes
[3:20:46] because they don't have the
[3:20:48] resources because they are
[3:20:48] used up.
[3:20:51] >> for all the that they love
[3:20:59] it. Let's see there there was
[3:20:59] mayor who will and microsoft
[3:21:01] within their jurisdiction and
[3:21:02] they had resources was
[3:21:03] resources to be able to
[3:21:06] provide for new residents to
[3:21:09] the area. So resources are.
[3:21:13] Are valuable and like I said
[3:21:16] I'm not against U.S. On this,
[3:21:17] but I am against putting them
[3:21:19] in areas that what you within
[3:21:21] a couple miles of the house,
[3:21:22] you know that further and they
[3:21:23] need to be in areas where the
[3:21:37] resource
[3:21:38] >> well good evening,
[3:21:47] everybody sir. I 33 that's. So
[3:21:48] a lot of time for a private
[3:21:55] citizen to give. To relate
[3:21:56] which some of their oxygen in
[3:22:01] life and their turn.
[3:22:01] >> mental horsepower
[3:22:05] incapacity.
[3:22:08] >> we all
[3:22:09] >> last few weeks here with
[3:22:12] this whole world. Thing and
[3:22:19] they tend not. Tell you what
[3:22:19] the general consensus is
[3:22:25] nobody wants this.
[3:22:26] >> we like our we like doubt
[3:22:30] and we like all that. What so
[3:22:37] much
[3:22:38] >> it's going to take to cool
[3:22:48] place U.S..
[3:22:55] >> of duty. You know the cats
[3:22:57] in the hospital least was
[3:23:00] grasping for is alas doused
[3:23:11] here to wait is going go out.
[3:23:15] Talk about quality of life.
[3:23:20] Roche is a more.
[3:23:21] >> because what it should be
[3:23:31] number one. Art show are.
[3:23:35] >> and told
[3:23:42] >> that's some serious bowl.
[3:23:43] We should be applauding every
[3:23:43] one of our children that come
[3:24:02] up here to but shut you should
[3:24:02] fall really be concerned
[3:24:05] because I want to tell. The
[3:24:11] majority view on this board.
[3:24:12] What the truth about the
[3:24:17] water.
[3:24:22] >> anybody that not available.
[3:24:28] You attention. White city
[3:24:37] manager when turn it quality.
[3:24:48] >> I
[3:24:49] >> for the final time tonight
[3:24:54] in the center funding. Of are
[3:24:56] you saying that the word has
[3:24:58] enters a north port, you're
[3:24:59] because it is day I sitting
[3:25:01] there there are a dozen years
[3:25:01] in north port so check your
[3:25:06] facts and 40.
[3:25:09] >> as that's a hurricane it's
[3:25:14] where this all started from
[3:25:16] before one 80 every role that
[3:25:17] they were talking about when
[3:25:19] the guy was over there talking
[3:25:21] about the roles from the
[3:25:21] 1970's ordinances all the
[3:25:23] right well.
[3:25:25] >> that was a 1970's. I was 10
[3:25:33] years old.
[3:25:35] >> because it has been really
[3:25:36] in the hurricane that term
[3:25:37] meant everything from the
[3:25:41] 1970's and 80's in 19 9600,000
[3:25:52] 2026 now we're at. Actions are
[3:25:55] up a vote right now because as
[3:25:56] know it was written to get
[3:25:56] everybody back into the house
[3:26:01] because of watts. One of the
[3:26:07] nations started exporting only
[3:26:08] to santa's for 84 for get it
[3:26:15] and the guy back to other but
[3:26:16] their and their comprehensive
[3:26:17] in order to prevent all this.
[3:26:23] Not to do that. So you as we
[3:26:27] all it was all court system
[3:26:30] now it will be judges and the
[3:26:33] that make the decision there
[3:26:35] is no here that can do
[3:26:38] anything for anybody and all
[3:26:41] 67 counties because it also
[3:26:52] today. Making the roadways
[3:26:55] still judges, where people are
[3:26:57] over 2 dozen municipality, so
[3:26:59] as to saying that they want to
[3:27:00] that was unconstitutional
[3:27:03] whole world power bat. Don't I
[3:27:15] want to do it. Centers have
[3:27:15] been around since the 70's
[3:27:16] that time with time that that
[3:27:31] have to get their
[3:27:32] center's
[3:27:35] macean all to be another track
[3:27:38] you and to car the PRESIDENT
[3:27:39] Gets for the 21st century,
[3:27:40] jetsons from the 1970's,
[3:27:48] starting 0.26. Are so 100 time
[3:27:49] as most of the people on
[3:27:55] >> thank you sir.
[3:27:56] >> lisa a my job and just
[3:28:11] johnson.
[3:28:14] >> thank you for the
[3:28:15] opportunity as 35 resident
[3:28:19] here in port. Well so I have a
[3:28:19] vested interest ensuring that
[3:28:22] whatever we decide to do that
[3:28:26] it's done environmentally
[3:28:26] safe. Family and protects all
[3:28:29] of us, so that is my concern.
[3:28:30] I am going on a measure that I
[3:28:34] and support developing this
[3:28:36] area as 35 year resident I
[3:28:37] know we need this interchange
[3:28:39] for emergency evacuation
[3:28:44] purposes. Also needed for.
[3:28:46] Important we need I
[3:28:46] distribution and manufacturing
[3:28:48] dead in this area. I think you
[3:28:49] need residential. But I don't
[3:28:52] see it as a data center
[3:28:53] because of the fact that the
[3:28:54] technology is just not there
[3:28:59] to make it safe for us and the
[3:29:02] >> that already in the united
[3:29:02] states how do we want is more
[3:29:04] important to be another what
[3:29:05] we have more than my GOD
[3:29:06] looking at china for example
[3:29:10] much more people.
[3:29:11] >> the fact that they only
[3:29:12] have 400 why does the united
[3:29:12] states needs thousands and
[3:29:16] want to be a test in the paint
[3:29:16] I would like to suggest that
[3:29:17] we get with alana and she get
[3:29:21] back to developer and see if
[3:29:23] they can change business model
[3:29:23] to be something that's more
[3:29:27] conducive to all current
[3:29:30] needs. I'm hoping they see
[3:29:30] that the alley and that
[3:29:32] because whatever project is
[3:29:33] that something could be able
[3:29:34] to build going to cost them
[3:29:36] billions of dollars get it
[3:29:39] done and that the community
[3:29:41] can have better fit point was
[3:29:43] whenever suggesting mike it's
[3:29:46] eliminating pointed to the any
[3:29:48] construction so I I see
[3:29:49] henschel industrial
[3:29:50] manufacturing distribution.
[3:29:51] Then data center. The other
[3:29:56] thing I would like to see what
[3:29:56] we can do because I've been
[3:29:59] here long enough to know that
[3:30:03] say had a tremendous sinkhole
[3:30:04] we're millions of gallons of
[3:30:06] toxic water was displaced
[3:30:08] aquifers and I don't hear
[3:30:09] about any testing of as well
[3:30:12] consumer heightened concern.
[3:30:14] Florida is has a lot of people
[3:30:18] say is we have neighboring
[3:30:19] toxic wells insights here we
[3:30:21] live in and was unprotected
[3:30:22] where shell so I want to
[3:30:24] recommend that we do some
[3:30:24] testing site asked peace river
[3:30:26] if actually test for and they
[3:30:30] do not you know uses chemicals
[3:30:32] in their in their water one
[3:30:34] thing that I know here the
[3:30:38] city also using herbicides in
[3:30:40] their maintenance decides far
[3:30:40] as I'm concerned toxic some
[3:30:43] people think new year.
[3:30:43] >> they don't stay in the fire
[3:30:49] that wall. I don't believe
[3:30:52] >> I do believe that are frogs
[3:30:53] have to something so I think
[3:30:54] this is a testament worsen we
[3:30:58] have bases. So determine is
[3:30:58] the catalan you know this say
[3:31:04] it. You know other candidates
[3:31:05] that we have a rather out of
[3:31:09] the retesting travels we seem
[3:31:12] to be our drinking water is
[3:31:12] with bleach only use 100 parks
[3:31:16] so. That's the 4 digit
[3:31:21] readings we shouldn't tell
[3:31:22] said
[3:31:26] that you exciting to have to
[3:31:40] as allison was only
[3:31:40] >> my name is joel if you're
[3:31:44] in the city since 20 2020. I
[3:31:45] moved to this quiet
[3:31:45] residential community because
[3:31:47] a quiet residential community.
[3:31:48] Okay and that's why there's a
[3:31:52] lot of us are here. You more
[3:31:52] restaurants, a few more things
[3:31:53] about their car or civil
[3:31:54] partners, but okay here. This
[3:31:56] is not what we moved here for
[3:32:00] you know, speaking, to you.
[3:32:04] Does a disservice. All of it.
[3:32:04] Goes stands up and says no is
[3:32:07] this gentleman right here.
[3:32:08] There's a move afoot to get
[3:32:13] rid of I want I got big mouth,
[3:32:17] I all my life. I see dog and
[3:32:20] pony shows are united with the
[3:32:21] sky was the worst talk about
[3:32:26] other saying. For smart show.
[3:32:26] I want to show people that
[3:32:31] cracked. You MAY be listening
[3:32:33] what got what they were away.
[3:32:38] It's to get rid of all. I
[3:32:44] rested officiate. Strong were
[3:32:47] forget you know, okay. So
[3:32:51] first was going last. Always
[3:32:56] think about what I say.
[3:32:56] Everybody except the 2 ladies
[3:32:58] here people think about I've
[3:33:00] heard good things about you
[3:33:02] MISTER Turner rest of know.
[3:33:17] Have a good evening folks.
[3:33:25] >> thanks love it like do sit
[3:33:28] meetings so about that.
[3:33:29] >> okay the box a little bit
[3:33:33] of some of this. It's
[3:33:33] definitely not to repetitive
[3:33:36] for much cared. Sydney
[3:33:41] thinking about with here.
[3:33:43] Picture mention you know, but
[3:33:48] there wiggle room. Hurricane
[3:33:49] what happened they came
[3:33:49] through charged all of us
[3:33:52] almost double elected fix it.
[3:33:52] Light poles all the damage
[3:33:55] that was causes from that.
[3:33:56] That multibillion dollar
[3:33:59] company lost now they have
[3:34:06] build up with a want the jobs
[3:34:07] that this going create a
[3:34:13] construction said it's not
[3:34:13] going to job growth coming
[3:34:14] down the street on come from
[3:34:17] out of state. It's not in the
[3:34:20] local that's going to be able
[3:34:28] to pay they're going around
[3:34:31] the fight they say they picked
[3:34:32] up right what they can do that
[3:34:34] but it's on the web when they
[3:34:35] won that that lower for us to
[3:34:37] look up to since paying a big
[3:34:44] portion of I think maybe low
[3:34:45] resident staff the paper times
[3:34:46] and everything else on the on
[3:34:48] part many. Something to think
[3:34:55] about. Care. Talking about
[3:34:55] status as a whole lot of this
[3:34:58] information. That's something
[3:34:58] that somebody want to
[3:35:02] something. It's not
[3:35:06] experienced area, the it's
[3:35:07] some a 30 something to some
[3:35:09] point. That's everybody's
[3:35:14] information. Have just try and
[3:35:18] get ready for put put this
[3:35:19] part we lose all that
[3:35:23] information. I wouldn't harris
[3:35:26] to somebody just gone crazy by
[3:35:27] so that's something that we
[3:35:29] need to worry about court
[3:35:35] situation. And just I do.
[3:35:38] About that are about you did
[3:35:42] not.
[3:35:43] >> you make a difference we
[3:35:45] have that nation. That is
[3:35:46] another side note make joke
[3:35:47] that. That's all I have to
[3:35:53] say. Things I think about.
[3:35:54] Appreciate thank thank you
[3:36:08] sir.
[3:36:11] >> opportunity bases, the
[3:36:13] fiscal opportunity, a
[3:36:19] substantial the county a
[3:36:20] generate 13 million dollars
[3:36:21] annually property taxes in
[3:36:22] early years, including
[3:36:26] 4 million dollars in nearly 9%
[3:36:26] of the city's current property
[3:36:28] tax revenue from a single
[3:36:37] project. Development. Data on.
[3:36:44] Police mandate for services
[3:36:45] that's not status should be
[3:36:52] neighborhood in appropriate
[3:36:52] areas. About off eating with
[3:36:53] friends from pay for
[3:37:00] infrastructure. Price you just
[3:37:07] residents quality of life for
[3:37:09] example occupied the about 4%
[3:37:10] commercial parcels about 38%
[3:37:11] of the county's general right
[3:37:19] now according to the serious
[3:37:25] consideration property tax
[3:37:26] much better position moving
[3:37:28] forward giving the city agents
[3:37:33] services. Extremely call
[3:37:45] saying the stand process
[3:37:46] becoming was I discussed
[3:37:50] focused years what is missing
[3:37:51] is just as important as what
[3:37:52] is being present the meeting
[3:37:53] for information about 10 to
[3:38:00] one of past infrastructure
[3:38:06] many those sites schools and
[3:38:11] neighborhoods. Also has
[3:38:12] haitians greater certainty
[3:38:18] before cities for. Cities
[3:38:19] trend toward a system that not
[3:38:20] simply obtain exemptions
[3:38:20] variance different and have
[3:38:28] these tax incentives. That
[3:38:29] should pass this on to
[3:38:30] taxpayers before any decision
[3:38:33] is made I se require and and
[3:38:41] water for them and traffic.
[3:38:42] Structure and for I mean
[3:38:42] people have approved
[3:38:54] conditions seated. The to
[3:38:59] medication project to complete
[3:39:03] actually expected needs to be
[3:39:04] established workshop that was
[3:39:07] on making and possible. We
[3:39:10] deserve to financial
[3:39:12] infrastructure pass before our
[3:39:13] city makes a decision that
[3:39:15] could affect our community for
[3:39:16] PRESIDENT's our schools our
[3:39:17] resources and quality of life
[3:39:30] for jeffrey walsh. That
[3:39:34] official writers to masks
[3:39:36] practice. The senator c 6.
[3:39:42] >> land use. Okay, first term
[3:39:44] and a 100 we're county
[3:39:47] commissioners county for this
[3:39:48] commission has also
[3:39:49] applications for public health
[3:40:00] safety just a safe hush. Are
[3:40:05] essential to the or city
[3:40:17] because when 100% of pocket. I
[3:40:18] mission to formally adopt the
[3:40:20] technical testimony as
[3:40:24] presented by fpl the peace
[3:40:32] river for she was the straw.
[3:40:33] Streams.
[3:40:34] >> straight pleased our last
[3:40:34] slide it cost to the csa
[3:40:40] requires united fan. Zoning up
[3:40:45] 5.86 was detonated until 2002
[3:40:53] workspace to playing minimal
[3:41:00] depositions. I see flag.
[3:41:07] Because to happy to
[3:41:07] >> and especially multiple
[3:41:08] legislative discretion to
[3:41:12] zoning reclassifications my
[3:41:16] hat. 18 moratoria city miami
[3:41:17] beach first and use certifies
[3:41:27] to 0. You sony MAY require an
[3:41:29] uncertain about significant
[3:41:30] amount we started generate and
[3:41:33] how we saw masked and treated.
[3:41:38] >> plans for a 16 inch force
[3:41:40] capable than it's been a and
[3:41:46] too out there that with an
[3:41:47] sportsman will connect to the
[3:41:55] city's existing ways for
[3:41:56] construction. Past the 2.1 and
[3:42:07] gj 0.6 gpa first time since
[3:42:08] official place and stress
[3:42:09] aging treatment system
[3:42:11] potentially challenge it's a
[3:42:12] passed. Appreciate invitation
[3:42:16] of where are all forcing next
[3:42:21] 2 days testing face have seen
[3:42:36] play street and specific
[3:42:36] characteristics of wastewater
[3:42:41] expected and as nation's from
[3:42:42] the city or state for
[3:42:47] protection of public
[3:42:48] resources. The city into and
[3:42:48] it's strong last for man
[3:42:56] associated stansell financial
[3:42:59] several years plan for shot
[3:43:01] given the potential sales.
[3:43:02] Understand this her strategy
[3:43:04] for pass treatment is
[3:43:14] critical. Millions of gallons
[3:43:15] of passed and there and I ask
[3:43:21] a fundamental question.
[3:43:27] Mission hope in the door.
[3:43:35] Michael jackson to yeah
[3:43:46] reality job developments shot
[3:43:51] 6 that's acres apart securing
[3:43:52] it
[3:43:57] >> if this project is in it
[3:44:01] is. Ration of our city is
[3:44:02] safe. The presentation test
[3:44:08] this product is that service
[3:44:13] and structure $592 to media is
[3:44:17] just to support a 15 well
[3:44:20] sony. Simply saw intended a
[3:44:25] message that the structure for
[3:44:26] tangibly improve the daily
[3:44:30] lives are lost ordinary
[3:44:34] homeowners. If cities just
[3:44:47] tyrese and everything we are
[3:44:51] is short long-term master plan
[3:45:02] actually want
[3:45:08] >> live in 2 technology site
[3:45:16] and place fraud to security
[3:45:17] stability, just to follow-up
[3:45:21] questions during tonight's
[3:45:22] presentation. What isis levi
[3:45:28] here he could sure massive
[3:45:28] cost ratings substations
[3:45:32] transformers grade and
[3:45:37] construction. For the safety
[3:45:42] pay passable future goals
[3:45:43] transmission car slaying of a
[3:45:49] new high voltage transmission
[3:45:49] stations out that's too
[3:45:50] strictly through existing
[3:45:58] commercial industrial and for
[3:46:04] instability for some of last
[3:46:07] pass an intent to asked for
[3:46:13] last mission districts the
[3:46:17] >> problem something a on
[3:46:23] court by does to summer g
[3:46:35] infrastructure same they
[3:46:58] specifically it and dry. 455
[3:47:00] species out of shelters
[3:47:01] because of 20% they generate
[3:47:12] can see. In a new ordinance
[3:47:19] smith show have racial
[3:47:27] motivations all and old $5 to
[3:47:32] maintain to prevent to
[3:47:36] something forecast calls to
[3:47:38] the of rest just not. There
[3:47:45] are them systems and they
[3:47:51] completely decisions made in
[3:47:52] protection but only we asked
[3:47:57] our before first shell that
[3:48:00] path. Comprehensive a few now
[3:48:04] sure that future technology in
[3:48:06] our city does not mean this
[3:48:07] have thank you for your and
[3:48:16] that's
[3:48:22] >> speaking.
[3:48:24] >> that's the same job.
[3:48:25] >> we're never doing the same
[3:48:26] thing. Lot of its funding
[3:48:30] construction. Grabbing a
[3:48:31] shovel in on a piece equipment
[3:48:34] it. It always always you keep
[3:48:37] that they
[3:48:38] >> thank you for joining me
[3:48:40] today on the job here but