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excessive rainfall. It might

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take longer and that's normal.

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look like poor maintenance.

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pollutants that was roads

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and yards. It also slowed the

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water down giving the system

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time to move water safely

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without creating watch out for

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the retention ditches

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intersect with canals.

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to build retention ponds and

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engineer stormwater systems on

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their property. The system's

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hold water on site and only

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release it slowly into the

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city's network, commercial

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sites follow the same rules.

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designed to reduce not

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increase sudden runoff into

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our system behind the scenes.

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>> coors public works teams

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that year round. Crews most

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wales clear calvert

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and maintain retention ditches

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and canals so water can keep

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moving. Sometimes that means

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specialized equipment like a

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long stick excavators these

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to clear debris and keep water

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flowing efficiently. And after

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storms crews are on the ground

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inspecting repairing and

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responding quickly to changing

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conditions. It's a massive job

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and it never stops.

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strong as how we all treated.

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keeping water moving. That

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means keeping swales and

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driveway culvert

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is clear. Never dumping grass

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clippings or debris in the

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ditches. And reporting

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problems when you

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see small actions that up and

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they keep the

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entire system working the way

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it was designed to. Trains

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in north port is complex. It

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was designed decades ago, most

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storms have grown more intense

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over the years. The system

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will continue to do its job

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when it's maintained and

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support

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we can make north port

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drainage system continue to

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protect our homes. Our

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community. And

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our future.

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>> in port families are

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finding more and more places

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bill.

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>> just for them we are in

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>> today is tuesday SEPTEMBER

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2026, it's 10:00am where the

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city chambers and I called the

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city commission regular

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meeting to order.

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Commissioners present are

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commissioner goodell MISTER

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Vice mayor london and

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commissioner petro there's a

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quorum present for this

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meeting also present our city

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manager fletcher city attorney

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fully know city passport

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specialist lender police paris

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fire chief titus requesting

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participants and staff

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maintain order and decorum

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throughout this meeting city

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admission policy 2021 dash 0,

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3, states that attendees show

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refrain from engaging in

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personal attacks enforce dress

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immaterial land already seen

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Additionally meeting attendees

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must refrain from seen profane

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demonstrations. Disturbs peace

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and good order of the meeting.

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>> commission all we something

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they serve.

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>> united states of stands

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nation under GOD indivisible

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with liberty and justice for

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all. Thank you I'm going to

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ask for approval of the

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>> have a motion on floor by

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commissioner still to approve

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the agenda do I have second

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second seconded by

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commissioner who vice mayor

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london. It's nothing to that

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and that passes 5 to 0. So

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public comment please ma'am.

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>> and her son I have and the

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>> good morning commissioners.

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My name is jenna to I live in

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port in a support the data

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center moratorium. I have

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previously spoken about

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technical in consistencies in

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the deep park applications.

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Today I want to focus on the

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public people trail for the

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moratorium exclusion. The

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public a stellar record for

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this data center application.

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>> psd pee dash 2, 6, dash 0,

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3, 3, 2, shows a submittal in

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issue date of AUGUST 31st, it

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shows a record summery around

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04:00pm he's around 05:00pm

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and workflow status quote

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application in t awaiting

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plans. But obvious are first

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does not appear to be

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beginning of this application

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history. JULY to data centers

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documents including digitally

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signed plans from the 20 it.

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And applicant AUGUST 31st

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filing response to city

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comments from AUGUST 12th.

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That appears to indicate there

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was earlier submission or

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intake is associated with this

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application. But I've not

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found the public acela project

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number for that JULY's

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submission. The public a

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stellar record I can find for

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the dea park data center site

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development plan is psd pee

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dash 2, 6 dash 3, 3, 8, 2

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showing AUGUST 31st is the

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submittal t if the JUNE was

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the mission was later

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converted into. For the to I

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would expect the public record

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to show history identify the

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original intake record. Right

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now I can see the JULY

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documents and in AUGUST 31st

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to some of the submittal but

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not the official bridge

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between them. What official

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record connects the JULY

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submission. The AUGUST 12 city

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comments in the AUGUST 31st, a

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seller record that matters

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because this project is being

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treated differently under the

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moratorium. Even suddenly is

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the standard the public should

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know which submission and the

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exclusion and where it can be

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verified. My second concern is

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what that exclusion protects

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the applicants documents show

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major support infrastructure

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is not fully within this

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application. The plan's legal

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the electrical substation

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quote by others and the

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applicant's responses that

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will be developed leader under

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separate cover. Before that

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went SEPTEMBER 22nd second

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reading please identify the

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official submission that earns

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a fee exclusion. The record

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number indeed tied to it. The

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ordinance language allowing

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pst pee dash 2, 6, dash 0, 3,

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to to continue. And whether

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exclusion protects only that

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has filed also future

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separately permit it the

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structures. Thank you.

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>> I'm going to take a totally

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different approach and kind of

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wing it here bear with I'm say

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for stuff that I for you.

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Representing.

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>> thousands upon thousands of

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citizens, not just within our

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city but the adjoining city

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also just like when we hear

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from the dias that you're

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representing the city as a

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>> but get they're not showing

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up and they're not voting. We

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have this every low voting

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record. I'm doing the same.

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Appear before you to kind of

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plead the case of this data

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center and what it really

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means to our city and do we

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really need it within our city

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and what is the main purpose

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of having it within our city

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and do we have enough

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safeguards particles

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provisions within our city.

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All of that kind of this you

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know we do not. The movement

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is not just limited to a city

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is a nationwide movement and

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is just growing stronger and

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stronger and stronger.

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>> we've had states that are

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actually putting in

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moratoriums trying to put bans

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on it. The technological

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environment that we find

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ourselves in is moving so fast

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that. By the time a data

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center I center gets filled.

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It's almost obsolete because

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the technology has advanced

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way after that and then what

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are we left with possibility

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of having a empty data center

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and maybe a possible bradfield

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so we really don't know that

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is the purpose for this 18

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month moratorium that we are

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asking. Not to shorten it we

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need the full 18 months to

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really put everything that we

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need into our uldc I've got

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sam was going to speak to one

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of the protections that really

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need to be instituted

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immediately. But I just want

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to say with economic

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development strategy. We just

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can't selling out our city in

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the name of economic

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development and the tax base

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at risk of quality of life

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issues for us citizen. Quality

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of life issues disintegrating

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at a rapid pace because of all

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the development that's going

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on the affordable housing

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restrictions you've got run

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to. It's like where else is

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there to build what else can

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we build now here comes ai

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center and this particular

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it's not a data center at this

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particular square footage.

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It's a I and that should scare

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out of almost

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everybody here. So again, I'm

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just standing for you to

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really listen to what the

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saying really consider because

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we've got a lot of smart

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people out there. That have

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excellent idea really just

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please consider them all when

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you're having a discussions.

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Thank you. Art.

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>> good morning, good morning.

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Now we have heard of florida

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resident 25 years north port

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tents. I received my term

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notice this year and I

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actually took the time to try

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to understand it for once. So

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the one issue that I didn't

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quite understand and I looked

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at was on the last it's and up

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maine and reconstruction.

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>> I assume that's capital

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projects. So I pulled up the

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of my neighborhood because I

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was curious who's paying what

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that I found out and the

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finance department that it's

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based on $46 per lot. That's

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what we pay into that fund. I

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have 4 lots. Combined so I pay

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a $184, I'm fine with that.

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What I'm not flying with is

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the fact that I sampled 40.

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Double triple quadruple lot in

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my small neighborhood just 40

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and 28, which is 70% I long.

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They're $46 they should be 90

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to one 38. There's one on here

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with side lots haley states

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their side lots ken do he pays

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$92. Your chain notices are

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wrong. And if that line is

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what else is is my concern so

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I'm going to give this to to

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the county and have her entry

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into the wreckage. I think

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this is a serious issue. I

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think somebody really needs to

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take a look at

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>> I

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>> have is the first

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>> I MAY I do have some for

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everybody agree to city clerk.

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Good morning commissioners and

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do. Citizens my name is samuel

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turpin thing I'm standing here

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as an independent resident who

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lived the literal nightmare

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resource collapse firsthand

353
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I'm not here for the political

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theater on today's agenda, I'm

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here to hand to an exact laker

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blueprint to save our

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community and a clear line in

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the sand. Let's be about the

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reality a multibillion-dollar

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developer has love to permit

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and to our system. Under

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florida law you cannot use

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senate 44 as a retrofit a time

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machine to about patient. Only

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way that the center it is it

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180 administrative and

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sufficiency clout expires to

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it due to its own technical

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errors. Immediate danger

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to north community 7 florida.

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As the corporate head who is

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at second that the court fails

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play as well that bird chain

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of new to slide applications

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to are so loopholes. We do not

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have months to sit around and

377
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the slow moving steady task

378
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tune like that that is ahead

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in the and evidence that was a

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highly secure today's defense

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recognized that so we're not

382
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so it. Why the pending

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stockton, the moment, those

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commission votes to attempt to

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modify or regulations to since

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the released said shop this us

387
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view of entire to prison

388
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reject applications spiral

389
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after well the lou. If you you

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stop today stopped to

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employment has for the closet

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at kitchen. Official

393
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insufficient so stand about

394
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the rate they so then after

395
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you do your eminence snow has

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stopped in new parliament, you

397
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a 180 so that parliament put

398
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motion to use as has said you

399
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>> and that he shouldn't used

400
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in the first place and we

401
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would have to be here so I my

402
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another you're teaching wrong

403
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thing to do to he did office

404
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and all.

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>> good morning I that I come

406
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here you piece, I'm other

407
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criminal. Or too told, and

408
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always thing you do respect.

409
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Yes is set off and has degree.

410
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This is for me said staffing

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fuel those do should be given

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to be changed by ways. Way but

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it people end 27 finds

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everybody that you have 2

415
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weston's well you have good

416
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that we thought might not you

417
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spend you've got syria step

418
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says would we only a big and

419
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for in got the e. Men not of

420
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that. And that is action. And

421
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if not at all attention.

422
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Documentary and over-under

423
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view it. With just around $30

424
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a day. That's post close to

425
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jury. Can you into this to

426
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shop and I think my election

427
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between french and it I said

428
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that MAY be you. He did it in

429
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in united states it. He

430
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stopped short the that's for

431
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what does that it is $3 and do

432
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the company and show believe

433
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that evidence. Say to be just

434
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business. But

435
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>> cathy sam burgess

436
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>> good I'm a new port are

437
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PRESIDENT I'm very very upset

438
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about data center. And ok I

439
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just have a few comments our

440
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current unified development

441
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code is completely unequipped

442
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to handle unique industrial

443
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demands of these facilities.

444
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Hyperscale danger center is

445
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not a standard office park is

446
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a heavy industrial utility.

447
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These complexes, these

448
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complexes run continuous

449
00:20:00,115 --> 00:20:02,515
low-frequency cooling fans and

450
00:20:03,418 --> 00:20:04,687
backup generators create

451
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massive noise pollution

452
00:20:05,521 --> 00:20:07,921
destroying the peace to

453
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prosperity values, a nearby

454
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neighborhoods that would be

455
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very upsetting to me a kind of

456
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close to that I don't live

457
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that close, but I'm still very

458
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upset about furthermore more.

459
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For the morning. Our region

460
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cannot handle the resource

461
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train.

462
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We cannot sacrifice our

463
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drinking water supply and

464
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great stability or power grid

465
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stability for an industry that

466
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provides member term local

467
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jobs. And was taken thank you

468
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very much. Thank you MADAM.

469
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>> just everybody, violations

470
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that. Shortly after yeah. When

471
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the blood was in charge here

472
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the last of the 3 of the line

473
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first though cited placed the

474
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personal property my property,

475
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you try to tell me I could

476
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have. They came up with other

477
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things outside the 4 times but

478
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is coalitions and none of them

479
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15 because I didn't do

480
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something wrong. But yet. I

481
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had to go through all of the

482
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#

483
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#

484
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#

485
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#

486
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#

487
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#

488
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#

489
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#

490
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that you guys put

491
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forth.

492
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And camera she

493
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everybody a lot cameras the

494
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4th minute, a 5th of that I

495
00:21:41,417 --> 00:21:44,319
can think those. Leaders asked

496
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with week before 3 men from on

497
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the kids that I 600 people

498
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that had to give numbers in

499
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order to serviced by building

500
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department. I think you're all

501
00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:03,360
people, especially you 3.30.

502
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Thank you.

503
00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:15,283
>> morning. My put it out

504
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might over to 3, 9, 9, 4, 2,

505
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3, 4, 1, today is

506
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>> for ultimately I meant no

507
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to hunters. On I think the

508
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council should be aware. Grant

509
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approval process.

510
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Wholeheartedly want to allow

511
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with that's when you're

512
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talking anything for

513
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multi-family apartment

514
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building.

515
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I think about him.

516
00:24:02,525 --> 00:24:04,626
Problem with that that

517
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knowledge with her leave it

518
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and you know in

519
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and for the fact

520
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>> I that that we would have.

521
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>> in 19 bring 2020 well.

522
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>> no

523
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>> department in end of the

524
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general public comment. You

525
00:24:43,499 --> 00:24:44,166
MAY that.

526
00:24:44,166 --> 00:24:44,734
>> but the city manager not

527
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there's ton financial

528
00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:49,371
decisions and not blame she

529
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would bring a new vehicle

530
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purchases brad and the time.

531
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To be a distraction magic

532
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populations and last but

533
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certainly

534
00:25:04,453 --> 00:25:07,453
not that and city of

535
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port gotten

536
00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:23,336
>> mining without for number

537
00:25:24,807 --> 00:25:26,807
9, 3, 6 I'm a comment

538
00:25:29,412 --> 00:25:31,812
commission meeting at 10:00am

539
00:25:32,514 --> 00:25:33,216
nda the nondisclosure

540
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agreement mentioned going to

541
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be today.

542
00:25:41,223 --> 00:25:42,925
Is but it's not my aunt how we

543
00:25:42,925 --> 00:25:44,327
things in

544
00:25:44,327 --> 00:25:46,327
port and

545
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not transparent. I mean it it

546
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holding the information that

547
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important other than that and

548
00:25:55,710 --> 00:25:58,671
how we got into the situation

549
00:26:04,414 --> 00:26:06,482
we on and I first out so I

550
00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:07,717
hope that the see that and

551
00:26:07,717 --> 00:26:08,417
they some of the control in

552
00:26:08,417 --> 00:26:10,817
terms making decisions within

553
00:26:12,455 --> 00:26:16,550
the city. She was each every

554
00:26:16,125 --> 00:26:18,525
commissioner. And they should

555
00:26:25,734 --> 00:26:28,370
not all questioned making the

556
00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:29,705
decision me so let's take back

557
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some control

558
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over and put that back can.

559
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:39,120
>> I will be watching that

560
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candidate and the u person of

561
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the on my way home thank you

562
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960
so much have

563
00:26:56,398 --> 00:26:59,398
>> and I not comment on

564
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:07,407
>> and I didn't know

565
00:27:16,218 --> 00:27:18,187
>> starting with for style and

566
00:27:18,187 --> 00:27:20,389
for managing. I think you

567
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:22,389
fallen in

568
00:27:28,764 --> 00:27:30,533
protect detrimental going to

569
00:27:30,533 --> 00:27:32,533
use your authority

570
00:27:32,935 --> 00:27:36,535
protect north port I think to

571
00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:37,640
be you that rate party under

572
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,240
which the state and you have

573
00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:47,580
vision your man and the great

574
00:27:48,751 --> 00:27:51,751
that already at remaining your

575
00:27:53,790 --> 00:27:56,625
control starting get a and

576
00:27:56,625 --> 00:27:59,250
what's on label where

577
00:28:00,562 --> 00:28:01,264
residential what they and a

578
00:28:01,264 --> 00:28:04,864
logical the care they need to

579
00:28:06,168 --> 00:28:06,568
bored buildings and a lot

580
00:28:06,568 --> 00:28:08,568
attention.

581
00:28:11,574 --> 00:28:13,974
>> are high. Not allowed

582
00:28:35,998 --> 00:28:40,198
that's the best you not a MAY.

583
00:28:42,872 --> 00:28:44,872
Still final point

584
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>> all during the battle in

585
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not

586
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,500
>> for tuesday SEPTEMBER

587
00:29:13,503 --> 00:29:15,903
public comment we that

588
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,443
mentioned to to the ideas that

589
00:29:20,443 --> 00:29:22,843
they sharing with you

590
00:29:23,579 --> 00:29:24,280
regarding that the 44 how we

591
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,647
prevent a new will protected

592
00:29:24,647 --> 00:29:26,647
from the

593
00:29:32,154 --> 00:29:32,955
hope you listen to it and take

594
00:29:32,955 --> 00:29:33,890
that

595
00:29:33,890 --> 00:29:34,523
consideration peaks on the

596
00:29:34,523 --> 00:29:36,923
items for today's meeting

597
00:29:37,627 --> 00:29:39,627
thank

598
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:41,297
>> and some skiing. Good

599
00:29:41,297 --> 00:29:43,297
morning. Commissioners. My

600
00:29:45,501 --> 00:29:46,168
name is ann stislicki.

601
00:29:46,168 --> 00:29:47,336
>> and I'm calling in today

602
00:29:47,336 --> 00:29:48,471
with the direct mandate for

603
00:29:48,471 --> 00:29:50,273
the stylus we demand the

604
00:29:50,273 --> 00:29:51,640
immediate threat that meant a

605
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,508
permanent wellfield protection

606
00:29:52,508 --> 00:29:53,175
ordinances right directly into

607
00:29:53,175 --> 00:29:53,843
our local land development

608
00:29:53,843 --> 00:29:55,478
regulations on the florida

609
00:29:55,478 --> 00:29:57,478
senate bill 4, 8, 4, we're

610
00:30:00,483 --> 00:30:02,218
with the administrative delays

611
00:30:02,218 --> 00:30:02,952
12 study task force or legally

612
00:30:02,952 --> 00:30:04,587
risky moratoriums that trigger

613
00:30:04,587 --> 00:30:06,587
multi-million dollar developer

614
00:30:07,356 --> 00:30:08,624
lawsuits additional pending

615
00:30:08,624 --> 00:30:11,240
ordinance doctrine. You have

616
00:30:11,361 --> 00:30:12,610
the right now to officially

617
00:30:12,610 --> 00:30:13,329
announce your draft in these

618
00:30:13,329 --> 00:30:14,300
water protections instantly

619
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:14,731
freezing any new hyperscale

620
00:30:14,731 --> 00:30:17,131
data center applications from

621
00:30:18,534 --> 00:30:19,201
sneaking into our borders. The

622
00:30:19,201 --> 00:30:19,803
political scientist and a

623
00:30:19,803 --> 00:30:22,203
strong the community is

624
00:30:23,139 --> 00:30:23,873
tracking exactly where each of

625
00:30:23,873 --> 00:30:24,907
you stand. Commissioner starts

626
00:30:24,907 --> 00:30:25,574
if you want to earn your

627
00:30:25,574 --> 00:30:28,544
re-election he will step up

628
00:30:28,544 --> 00:30:29,245
today staff administrative

629
00:30:29,245 --> 00:30:29,979
word salad and make that

630
00:30:29,979 --> 00:30:32,381
official mission to review and

631
00:30:32,381 --> 00:30:34,381
implement these welfare

632
00:30:34,417 --> 00:30:35,351
protections. Average if you

633
00:30:35,351 --> 00:30:35,985
want to campaign to have any

634
00:30:35,985 --> 00:30:38,385
drop credibility with the

635
00:30:40,289 --> 00:30:41,230
voters he will sign into onto

636
00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:41,657
ordinance immediately and stop

637
00:30:41,657 --> 00:30:44,570
using committee delays to

638
00:30:44,226 --> 00:30:44,894
protect family interests.

639
00:30:44,894 --> 00:30:45,595
Commissioner picture if you

640
00:30:45,595 --> 00:30:46,296
want to keep the outstanding

641
00:30:46,296 --> 00:30:47,963
following and community trust

642
00:30:47,963 --> 00:30:48,631
you have built, you will

643
00:30:48,631 --> 00:30:50,433
continue to lead the charge

644
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:53,433
and fully support this ira

645
00:30:54,137 --> 00:30:54,837
flatow framework on the floor.

646
00:30:54,837 --> 00:30:55,538
Commissioners about I believe

647
00:30:55,538 --> 00:30:58,538
you sincere person who wants

648
00:30:59,876 --> 00:31:01,477
to do right by us. Town if you

649
00:31:01,477 --> 00:31:02,578
want to in the correct side

650
00:31:02,578 --> 00:31:04,780
history must sign onto these

651
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:07,180
protections to protect our

652
00:31:07,684 --> 00:31:08,418
drinking water are facing an

653
00:31:08,418 --> 00:31:09,819
industrialist extinction event

654
00:31:09,819 --> 00:31:10,520
stop playing defense protect

655
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,187
our well fields used sb 4, 8,

656
00:31:11,187 --> 00:31:13,187
4, protect florida's water

657
00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:18,161
right now. Kate once well not

658
00:31:18,161 --> 00:31:19,395
believe the officials in our

659
00:31:19,395 --> 00:31:20,330
city racking the slide get off

660
00:31:20,330 --> 00:31:21,300
your high horse get out your

661
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,300
wallet if you're elected and

662
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,635
you be gone by now. Do the

663
00:31:25,635 --> 00:31:26,235
right thing by the people

664
00:31:26,235 --> 00:31:29,235
before we show on your

665
00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:31,741
doorstep. Want to

666
00:31:31,741 --> 00:31:33,760
commissioners my name is

667
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,760
sherry and I'm writing today

668
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:34,710
with the direct mandate for

669
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:35,311
this dry as we demand the

670
00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:37,311
immediate drafting and

671
00:31:39,415 --> 00:31:40,416
enactment of. Herman

672
00:31:40,416 --> 00:31:42,416
protection ordinances right

673
00:31:42,485 --> 00:31:43,687
directly into land development

674
00:31:43,687 --> 00:31:45,455
regulations under florida

675
00:31:45,455 --> 00:31:46,455
senate bill 4, 8, 4, we're

676
00:31:46,455 --> 00:31:47,724
done with administrative

677
00:31:47,724 --> 00:31:48,624
delays study task force were

678
00:31:48,624 --> 00:31:51,240
legally risky moratoriums are

679
00:31:51,461 --> 00:31:53,195
multi-million dollar developer

680
00:31:53,195 --> 00:31:53,996
lawsuit under the judicial

681
00:31:53,996 --> 00:31:54,864
pending ordinance doctor and

682
00:31:54,864 --> 00:31:55,464
you have the legal authority

683
00:31:55,464 --> 00:31:57,700
right now to officially

684
00:31:57,700 --> 00:31:58,601
announce your draft means

685
00:31:58,601 --> 00:31:59,302
water protections and so

686
00:31:59,302 --> 00:32:00,200
freezing any new hyperscale

687
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,402
data center applications from

688
00:32:03,306 --> 00:32:04,240
sneaking into our borders. It

689
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:04,974
doesn't will not economic

690
00:32:04,974 --> 00:32:07,974
development to the city adonis

691
00:32:08,144 --> 00:32:10,790
are will not bring revenue to

692
00:32:10,790 --> 00:32:10,679
the city. A real police are

693
00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:11,381
water and where it will

694
00:32:11,381 --> 00:32:12,480
destroy habitat for wildlife

695
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:12,882
it will cause damage beyond

696
00:32:12,882 --> 00:32:15,882
the data center please stop

697
00:32:16,986 --> 00:32:17,620
this from happening using that

698
00:32:17,620 --> 00:32:18,321
you saw possible. I'll be

699
00:32:18,321 --> 00:32:21,921
watching and I will voting in

700
00:32:22,958 --> 00:32:25,358
NOVEMBER. David regarding the

701
00:32:25,961 --> 00:32:26,662
city commission regular

702
00:32:26,662 --> 00:32:27,297
meeting on 31st twenty-twenty

703
00:32:27,297 --> 00:32:27,997
section specifically the

704
00:32:27,997 --> 00:32:30,866
motion to impose a moratorium

705
00:32:30,866 --> 00:32:33,866
center's at the forest. By

706
00:32:33,936 --> 00:32:34,604
commissioner this moratorium

707
00:32:34,604 --> 00:32:35,205
motion was what the meeting

708
00:32:35,205 --> 00:32:35,939
was about and what the

709
00:32:35,939 --> 00:32:38,108
hundreds of citizens that took

710
00:32:38,108 --> 00:32:39,108
time out of their life said

711
00:32:39,108 --> 00:32:40,543
they wanted. The amended

712
00:32:40,543 --> 00:32:41,210
motion by commissioner starts

713
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:43,579
the second by commissioner

714
00:32:43,579 --> 00:32:45,748
about the and the post am

715
00:32:45,748 --> 00:32:46,849
legend line

716
00:32:46,849 --> 00:32:50,860
didn't work. A master class in

717
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:50,787
absolute power us. Just how

718
00:32:50,787 --> 00:32:51,687
many hundreds of

719
00:32:51,687 --> 00:32:52,354
citizen showing up take for

720
00:32:52,354 --> 00:32:56,554
you to grow a spine and do

721
00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:02,598
your job. It into mandate for

722
00:33:02,598 --> 00:33:03,399
that style as we demand the

723
00:33:03,399 --> 00:33:05,234
immediate draft and I kind of

724
00:33:05,234 --> 00:33:06,536
permanent wellfield protection

725
00:33:06,536 --> 00:33:07,703
ordinances britt directly into

726
00:33:07,703 --> 00:33:08,772
our development regulations

727
00:33:08,772 --> 00:33:09,472
under florida senate bill 44

728
00:33:09,472 --> 00:33:12,472
we're done with the ministry

729
00:33:15,678 --> 00:33:17,547
delays. Anonymous this meeting

730
00:33:17,547 --> 00:33:19,649
a sham you do not represent

731
00:33:19,649 --> 00:33:20,750
the people of port stokes your

732
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:21,985
costume flip-flopping cursing

733
00:33:21,985 --> 00:33:22,618
at petro amateur cussing at

734
00:33:22,618 --> 00:33:23,352
citizens or your blatant

735
00:33:23,352 --> 00:33:26,352
discussed for citizens want to

736
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:27,790
silence the public. It's

737
00:33:27,790 --> 00:33:28,825
disgraceful. We take people's

738
00:33:28,825 --> 00:33:29,459
right to speech banning

739
00:33:29,459 --> 00:33:31,859
clapping even for freely

740
00:33:32,328 --> 00:33:32,962
caught and cursed and the late

741
00:33:32,962 --> 00:33:35,362
PRESIDENT's you pay your

742
00:33:35,832 --> 00:33:37,634
salary is atrocious. This is

743
00:33:37,634 --> 00:33:38,835
not leadership. This is

744
00:33:38,835 --> 00:33:39,502
hypocrisy and abuse of power

745
00:33:39,502 --> 00:33:41,104
you are drunk on power and

746
00:33:41,104 --> 00:33:41,838
maybe also drunk you 2 need to

747
00:33:41,838 --> 00:33:44,174
be random breathalyzer test it

748
00:33:44,174 --> 00:33:44,875
before you come into the city

749
00:33:44,875 --> 00:33:48,377
hall. If a who works for him

750
00:33:48,377 --> 00:33:49,212
fire city manager fletcher

751
00:33:49,212 --> 00:33:49,845
immediately for the nda

752
00:33:49,845 --> 00:33:52,245
secrecy, a backdoor deals

753
00:33:52,615 --> 00:33:53,916
involving a liner and

754
00:33:53,916 --> 00:33:54,584
development services and these

755
00:33:54,584 --> 00:33:56,984
clothes or maintenance item

756
00:33:56,986 --> 00:33:58,955
forton information from the

757
00:33:58,955 --> 00:34:00,523
public. The pad meeting was a

758
00:34:00,523 --> 00:34:01,224
disgrace. It was a great

759
00:34:01,224 --> 00:34:03,624
sponsorship for the center's

760
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,228
it was disgusting like a

761
00:34:05,228 --> 00:34:07,628
sleazy car salesman MISTER

762
00:34:09,465 --> 00:34:10,967
Siddiqui himself this was did

763
00:34:10,967 --> 00:34:11,601
any of our tax dollars went

764
00:34:11,601 --> 00:34:13,601
toward that's disgusting

765
00:34:15,972 --> 00:34:16,640
one-sided pony show your

766
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,340
misappropriation of our tax

767
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:18,700
dollars and erosion of trust

768
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:20,509
are all examples of failure

769
00:34:20,509 --> 00:34:24,109
that will be your legacy and

770
00:34:24,114 --> 00:34:25,140
all of this is for point

771
00:34:25,140 --> 00:34:27,830
repugnant to also to shun and

772
00:34:27,830 --> 00:34:28,151
the city's charter do it now

773
00:34:28,151 --> 00:34:29,753
or be prepared for the full

774
00:34:29,753 --> 00:34:30,453
force of an angry public that

775
00:34:30,453 --> 00:34:31,154
will no longer tolerate this

776
00:34:31,154 --> 00:34:34,754
the people of north port are

777
00:34:34,824 --> 00:34:35,892
watching we will remember now

778
00:34:35,892 --> 00:34:38,292
number will be memorable

779
00:34:39,629 --> 00:34:40,696
careers in public service

780
00:34:40,696 --> 00:34:41,331
sector. Well, reverend martin

781
00:34:41,331 --> 00:34:41,965
shane you are a disgrace

782
00:34:41,965 --> 00:34:44,965
failures and you will be

783
00:34:49,206 --> 00:34:52,206
forever remembered a the are

784
00:34:52,742 --> 00:34:53,910
left to address item 26 dash

785
00:34:53,910 --> 00:34:54,977
1051 we need to tighten the

786
00:34:54,977 --> 00:34:55,745
uldc code to protect our

787
00:34:55,745 --> 00:34:57,781
environment and our beautiful

788
00:34:57,781 --> 00:34:58,949
city I think it's been made

789
00:34:58,949 --> 00:35:01,117
clear that the residents are

790
00:35:01,117 --> 00:35:02,151
not in favor of a desk a

791
00:35:02,151 --> 00:35:05,210
little new york and there are

792
00:35:05,210 --> 00:35:06,389
a lot of struck a habitat and

793
00:35:06,389 --> 00:35:07,570
ac 6 an ac time has anyone

794
00:35:07,570 --> 00:35:10,657
verify posed snr isn't in a

795
00:35:11,327 --> 00:35:12,280
scrub jay area.

796
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,263
>> I'm sure there are lots of

797
00:35:13,263 --> 00:35:14,364
gopher tortoises in area also

798
00:35:14,364 --> 00:35:15,332
along with multiple other

799
00:35:15,332 --> 00:35:16,232
wildlife, the constant hum of

800
00:35:16,232 --> 00:35:16,833
the center and the running of

801
00:35:16,833 --> 00:35:18,833
multiple generators is

802
00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:20,703
deafening noise pollution has

803
00:35:20,703 --> 00:35:22,205
there been any long-term

804
00:35:22,205 --> 00:35:22,872
studies of the noise and light

805
00:35:22,872 --> 00:35:24,507
effects in the virginia and

806
00:35:24,507 --> 00:35:25,208
ohio got center's already up

807
00:35:25,208 --> 00:35:28,208
and running what about water

808
00:35:28,911 --> 00:35:30,647
and air pollution stumbles. We

809
00:35:30,647 --> 00:35:31,748
ton and hurricane area. What

810
00:35:31,748 --> 00:35:34,617
happens if a major storm hits

811
00:35:34,617 --> 00:35:35,418
one of these centers can we

812
00:35:35,418 --> 00:35:36,253
specify center's because of

813
00:35:36,253 --> 00:35:38,653
the fragile lives propensity

814
00:35:40,256 --> 00:35:41,910
on stable ground and sinkholes

815
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:41,958
what about possible

816
00:35:41,958 --> 00:35:42,692
contamination of groundwater

817
00:35:42,692 --> 00:35:43,360
most of us in the area have

818
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,760
well sweeney clean drinking

819
00:35:46,596 --> 00:35:48,431
water survive. There needs to

820
00:35:48,431 --> 00:35:49,699
be tighter regulations to

821
00:35:49,699 --> 00:35:51,401
prohibit the multiple problems

822
00:35:51,401 --> 00:35:53,470
that are inherent to a data

823
00:35:53,470 --> 00:35:54,504
center I'm sure wants to push

824
00:35:54,504 --> 00:35:58,375
for a or so they can reap the

825
00:35:58,375 --> 00:35:59,420
benefits of second downtown's

826
00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:00,430
of electricity. It's there

827
00:36:00,430 --> 00:36:00,710
needs to be protections for

828
00:36:00,710 --> 00:36:04,180
all of us not just for bay

829
00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:05,820
energy and developers. Please

830
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:06,416
do your homework and reach out

831
00:36:06,416 --> 00:36:07,150
to the cities that have

832
00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:07,817
successfully lot guys that are

833
00:36:07,817 --> 00:36:08,452
so you can follow suit our

834
00:36:08,452 --> 00:36:11,452
city and its residents to

835
00:36:14,324 --> 00:36:16,392
pounce on you. Greg holder.

836
00:36:16,392 --> 00:36:18,361
There are measures later today

837
00:36:18,361 --> 00:36:20,263
I want just 3 specific issues

838
00:36:20,263 --> 00:36:20,863
disastrous uldc rewrite the

839
00:36:20,863 --> 00:36:22,465
administrative approval

840
00:36:22,465 --> 00:36:23,466
process that stripped away

841
00:36:23,466 --> 00:36:24,300
meaningful or science city

842
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:24,935
staff entering into

843
00:36:24,935 --> 00:36:25,569
non-disclosure agreements

844
00:36:25,569 --> 00:36:27,969
without the knowledge or

845
00:36:28,337 --> 00:36:29,372
consent of this commission. Of

846
00:36:29,372 --> 00:36:31,207
those issues when they come

847
00:36:31,207 --> 00:36:33,376
before you but they're not

848
00:36:33,376 --> 00:36:35,450
isolated problems together

849
00:36:35,450 --> 00:36:35,678
they reveal pattern

850
00:36:35,678 --> 00:36:36,379
diminishing transparency

851
00:36:36,379 --> 00:36:37,800
living oversight and avoiding

852
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,800
accountability accountability

853
00:36:39,216 --> 00:36:39,849
starts at the top. The

854
00:36:39,849 --> 00:36:40,416
fingerprints of the city

855
00:36:40,416 --> 00:36:41,840
manager and director

856
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,484
development services are on

857
00:36:43,820 --> 00:36:45,550
each of these issues through

858
00:36:45,550 --> 00:36:47,550
their direct decisions

859
00:36:47,123 --> 00:36:47,857
delegated authority or staff

860
00:36:47,857 --> 00:36:48,558
under their direction and they

861
00:36:48,558 --> 00:36:49,259
have helped put the city and

862
00:36:49,259 --> 00:36:51,728
its residents in the position

863
00:36:51,728 --> 00:36:52,895
we are now trying to correct

864
00:36:52,895 --> 00:36:53,930
at some point accountability

865
00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:54,665
has to mean something we

866
00:36:54,665 --> 00:36:55,365
cannot keep reversing bad

867
00:36:55,365 --> 00:36:57,365
decisions rewriting policies

868
00:36:57,634 --> 00:36:58,301
and fixing broken processes.

869
00:36:58,301 --> 00:37:00,701
But unlike the leadership's

870
00:37:01,437 --> 00:37:04,174
responsible for them. I have

871
00:37:04,174 --> 00:37:04,775
that the city manager and the

872
00:37:04,775 --> 00:37:05,408
director of development

873
00:37:05,408 --> 00:37:07,377
services I'm asking this

874
00:37:07,377 --> 00:37:08,144
commission to terminate both

875
00:37:08,144 --> 00:37:08,845
immediately for cost that's

876
00:37:08,845 --> 00:37:11,245
supported by established back

877
00:37:11,314 --> 00:37:11,948
city policy of our contract.

878
00:37:11,948 --> 00:37:12,616
This isn't personal. It's

879
00:37:12,616 --> 00:37:14,616
leadership. Accountability

880
00:37:15,318 --> 00:37:15,953
later today we can debate each

881
00:37:15,953 --> 00:37:18,953
each train right now I'm

882
00:37:19,189 --> 00:37:20,323
asking you to look at the

883
00:37:20,323 --> 00:37:22,358
first there are 3 separate

884
00:37:22,358 --> 00:37:24,294
failures, these are symptoms

885
00:37:24,294 --> 00:37:24,861
of the leadership politics and

886
00:37:24,861 --> 00:37:25,495
the policies without

887
00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:26,290
addressing the leadership

888
00:37:26,290 --> 00:37:28,429
created them is not

889
00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:33,636
accountability its cleanup.

890
00:37:33,636 --> 00:37:34,271
Assist. Good morning.

891
00:37:34,271 --> 00:37:35,205
Commissioners. My name is

892
00:37:35,205 --> 00:37:36,205
jamie, I'm calling in today

893
00:37:36,205 --> 00:37:38,275
with a direct mandate for the

894
00:37:38,275 --> 00:37:39,275
we demand that media drafting

895
00:37:39,275 --> 00:37:40,900
and enactment a permanent

896
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:40,710
wellfield protection ordinance

897
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:43,346
is written directly into our

898
00:37:43,346 --> 00:37:43,780
local land development

899
00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:45,780
regulations.

900
00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:46,749
>> on a florida race we're

901
00:37:46,749 --> 00:37:48,284
done with the administrative

902
00:37:48,284 --> 00:37:51,284
delays study task force or

903
00:37:52,890 --> 00:37:52,722
legally risky moratoriums

904
00:37:52,722 --> 00:37:54,124
extra multimillion-dollar

905
00:37:54,124 --> 00:37:55,191
under the additional pending

906
00:37:55,191 --> 00:37:56,260
doctor or dentist doctor and

907
00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:56,626
you have the legal authority

908
00:37:56,626 --> 00:37:58,729
right now to officially

909
00:37:58,729 --> 00:37:59,429
announce your draft these

910
00:37:59,429 --> 00:38:00,163
water protections, it's only

911
00:38:00,163 --> 00:38:02,563
freezing any new occasions

912
00:38:02,899 --> 00:38:04,401
from sneaking into our

913
00:38:04,401 --> 00:38:05,836
borders. The political line in

914
00:38:05,836 --> 00:38:07,971
the sand, a strong today and

915
00:38:07,971 --> 00:38:08,638
the community is tracking

916
00:38:08,638 --> 00:38:10,600
exactly each of you stance.

917
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,410
Commissioner stoves if you

918
00:38:11,410 --> 00:38:13,900
want earn your reelection

919
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:13,710
you'll step up stop them a

920
00:38:13,710 --> 00:38:14,778
straight up or and make that

921
00:38:14,778 --> 00:38:16,913
official motion to review and

922
00:38:16,913 --> 00:38:18,115
implement these welfare

923
00:38:18,115 --> 00:38:19,115
protections but he campaign to

924
00:38:19,115 --> 00:38:20,350
have any drop of credibility

925
00:38:20,350 --> 00:38:21,818
with the voters he will sign

926
00:38:21,818 --> 00:38:22,485
on to ordinance immediately

927
00:38:22,485 --> 00:38:24,421
stop using committee delays

928
00:38:24,421 --> 00:38:25,155
fact family interest

929
00:38:25,155 --> 00:38:28,155
commissioner petro if you want

930
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,930
to keep standing following

931
00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:30,760
community trust we have built

932
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,394
you'll continue to lead the

933
00:38:31,394 --> 00:38:33,794
charge fully support this

934
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:36,232
ironclad legal framework on

935
00:38:36,232 --> 00:38:36,966
the floor commissioners about

936
00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:38,335
believe you are sincere person

937
00:38:38,335 --> 00:38:41,380
who wants to do the right

938
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:42,171
thing by just how if you want

939
00:38:42,171 --> 00:38:44,207
to fall on side of history

940
00:38:44,207 --> 00:38:44,874
must sign off to wellfield

941
00:38:44,874 --> 00:38:47,110
protections to protect our

942
00:38:47,110 --> 00:38:49,379
drinking water aquifers facing

943
00:38:49,379 --> 00:38:50,180
an industrial extinction event

944
00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:50,813
stop playing defense protect

945
00:38:50,813 --> 00:38:51,514
our wellfields you zesty

946
00:38:51,514 --> 00:38:53,914
protect florida's water right

947
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:03,930
now. Jane citizens enter port.

948
00:39:03,930 --> 00:39:05,280
I'm speaking today state my

949
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,130
strong opposition to bring

950
00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:07,965
enters into our communities

951
00:39:07,965 --> 00:39:09,660
facilities operate 24 7 with

952
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:11,660
massive industrial plant

953
00:39:12,902 --> 00:39:13,603
systems and diesel backup

954
00:39:13,603 --> 00:39:14,271
generators to create constant

955
00:39:14,271 --> 00:39:14,971
high-decibel noise and play

956
00:39:14,971 --> 00:39:17,600
our air they consume millions

957
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,942
gallons of water every water

958
00:39:18,942 --> 00:39:19,676
legal system that residents

959
00:39:19,676 --> 00:39:20,477
desperately need and they wait

960
00:39:20,477 --> 00:39:21,110
out local force and over land

961
00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:23,110
destroying the beautiful

962
00:39:23,446 --> 00:39:25,281
wildlife that makes our town

963
00:39:25,281 --> 00:39:26,382
special. We should protecting

964
00:39:26,382 --> 00:39:27,183
our communities, quiet

965
00:39:27,183 --> 00:39:27,785
neighborhoods clean

966
00:39:27,785 --> 00:39:28,452
environment and natural

967
00:39:28,452 --> 00:39:30,320
resources, not handing them

968
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,210
over to industrial centers. I

969
00:39:31,210 --> 00:39:34,210
strongly urge the council to

970
00:39:36,126 --> 00:39:38,228
vote no on proposal. You know

971
00:39:38,228 --> 00:39:39,496
you the commissioners about

972
00:39:39,496 --> 00:39:40,230
MISTER Should be ashamed of

973
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:41,331
the way they refused to vote

974
00:39:41,331 --> 00:39:43,731
MISTER Patrick's proposal on

975
00:39:45,202 --> 00:39:48,202
31 to include the current data

976
00:39:48,205 --> 00:39:49,272
center proposal and the center

977
00:39:49,272 --> 00:39:50,574
only moving after already

978
00:39:50,574 --> 00:39:52,175
approving an amendment to not

979
00:39:52,175 --> 00:39:53,760
only the current proposal

980
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:53,710
makes no sense and completely

981
00:39:53,710 --> 00:39:54,410
negated MISTER Crutcher's

982
00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:57,410
proposal before it could even

983
00:39:57,981 --> 00:39:58,915
be going on. The commissioners

984
00:39:58,915 --> 00:40:00,250
MISTER Kutcher seem to be

985
00:40:00,250 --> 00:40:00,951
letting city staff who have

986
00:40:00,951 --> 00:40:01,651
not been elected make all the

987
00:40:01,651 --> 00:40:04,651
decisions for a statement was

988
00:40:05,722 --> 00:40:06,323
even made so that. Today 9 to

989
00:40:06,323 --> 00:40:08,658
the makes the big bucks

990
00:40:08,658 --> 00:40:09,860
referring to the city

991
00:40:09,860 --> 00:40:12,860
attorney, the sums up so

992
00:40:13,964 --> 00:40:16,964
perfectly in your own words,

993
00:40:17,167 --> 00:40:17,835
worship you think the city

994
00:40:17,835 --> 00:40:18,435
staff implore us elected

995
00:40:18,435 --> 00:40:19,102
officials to think for

996
00:40:19,102 --> 00:40:22,102
yourself not just listen to

997
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,708
money, thank you. Kim and all

998
00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:25,442
that's energy use too much

999
00:40:25,442 --> 00:40:27,577
water there too noisy and take

1000
00:40:27,577 --> 00:40:28,245
away animals natural habitat

1001
00:40:28,245 --> 00:40:30,645
too many negatives outweigh

1002
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:35,750
any manage lindor I supposed

1003
00:40:38,388 --> 00:40:40,490
to senators, however, coulter

1004
00:40:40,490 --> 00:40:41,900
is a futuristic and visionary

1005
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:42,993
in technology known for

1006
00:40:42,993 --> 00:40:43,693
pioneering this can commerce

1007
00:40:43,693 --> 00:40:44,395
cancer connect and scantling

1008
00:40:44,395 --> 00:40:46,196
qr codes that scan with your

1009
00:40:46,196 --> 00:40:48,596
mobile phones platform. Police

1010
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,736
stations and all countries

1011
00:40:52,736 --> 00:40:53,803
that specializes in computer

1012
00:40:53,803 --> 00:40:55,239
vision and machine learning

1013
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,640
and artificial intelligent

1014
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,507
platforms along with energy

1015
00:40:57,507 --> 00:40:59,507
production innovative building

1016
00:41:00,277 --> 00:41:01,478
technologies and analytics

1017
00:41:01,478 --> 00:41:03,478
forensic sciences, past

1018
00:41:03,513 --> 00:41:04,381
winners of the smithsonian's

1019
00:41:04,381 --> 00:41:06,283
larry, a medal for most likely

1020
00:41:06,283 --> 00:41:07,484
to change citing his recent

1021
00:41:07,484 --> 00:41:09,420
book explains the importance

1022
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:11,454
of why we must move forward

1023
00:41:11,454 --> 00:41:13,423
with that sn his boat, the 3

1024
00:41:13,423 --> 00:41:15,358
to communist china secret war

1025
00:41:15,358 --> 00:41:16,920
to end american ai center's

1026
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:16,693
china's relentless drive for a

1027
00:41:16,693 --> 00:41:19,693
is no longer a distance

1028
00:41:21,565 --> 00:41:23,667
threat. For a massive state

1029
00:41:23,667 --> 00:41:24,735
that infrastructure, energy

1030
00:41:24,735 --> 00:41:26,735
strategic control global

1031
00:41:26,803 --> 00:41:28,605
supply chains the ccp is

1032
00:41:28,605 --> 00:41:29,606
building a nonstop about

1033
00:41:29,606 --> 00:41:31,606
technology empower america

1034
00:41:31,775 --> 00:41:34,175
debates policy china executes

1035
00:41:34,845 --> 00:41:35,712
executes this is not whether

1036
00:41:35,712 --> 00:41:37,714
trend it is the decisive about

1037
00:41:37,714 --> 00:41:38,782
the other of the 21st century

1038
00:41:38,782 --> 00:41:39,650
where center's power

1039
00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:40,717
generation cooling systems and

1040
00:41:40,717 --> 00:41:41,418
sovereign energy

1041
00:41:41,418 --> 00:41:42,510
infrastructure will determine

1042
00:41:42,510 --> 00:41:44,510
who controls intelligence

1043
00:41:44,622 --> 00:41:45,656
economic supremacy and

1044
00:41:45,656 --> 00:41:46,656
national security this book is

1045
00:41:46,656 --> 00:41:47,358
not a statement of opinion is

1046
00:41:47,358 --> 00:41:50,594
about facts as to why we must

1047
00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:51,261
move center's I agree with the

1048
00:41:51,261 --> 00:41:51,995
majority of the people that

1049
00:41:51,995 --> 00:41:54,164
they should never be placed in

1050
00:41:54,164 --> 00:41:57,164
areas where people live work

1051
00:41:57,601 --> 00:41:58,268
or school. This misinformation

1052
00:41:58,268 --> 00:41:58,969
about senators ask sumption

1053
00:41:58,969 --> 00:42:01,969
electricity or off your base

1054
00:42:02,372 --> 00:42:04,274
propaganda still wants to

1055
00:42:04,274 --> 00:42:05,175
instill fear in people who are

1056
00:42:05,175 --> 00:42:07,430
your knowledge if the city

1057
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:09,120
commission is interested I

1058
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,679
love to connect you with

1059
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:10,413
MISTER Paul to present this

1060
00:42:10,413 --> 00:42:15,213
topic in a lot of money in for

1061
00:42:16,786 --> 00:42:17,388
matt. Thank you. Commissioners

1062
00:42:17,388 --> 00:42:19,388
please and commonwealth

1063
00:42:19,389 --> 00:42:22,389
protection with our lprs c 44

1064
00:42:23,590 --> 00:42:24,361
and the epa endorsed well

1065
00:42:24,361 --> 00:42:25,950
action. He wants to live with

1066
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:28,231
but no can live without water,

1067
00:42:28,231 --> 00:42:30,768
you need water to please

1068
00:42:30,768 --> 00:42:31,468
freeze. And you for center's

1069
00:42:31,468 --> 00:42:32,102
applications and all matters

1070
00:42:32,102 --> 00:42:35,102
and north are tech north

1071
00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:38,140
port's residents. Regarding 26

1072
00:42:40,911 --> 00:42:42,712
dash 1051 2610 2326 1022 as

1073
00:42:42,712 --> 00:42:43,681
air is across the state are

1074
00:42:43,681 --> 00:42:44,314
area is designated running

1075
00:42:44,314 --> 00:42:46,714
level not enough drinking

1076
00:42:47,751 --> 00:42:48,351
water for projected 2030

1077
00:42:48,351 --> 00:42:48,953
population, your these

1078
00:42:48,953 --> 00:42:50,953
environmentally harmful

1079
00:42:51,722 --> 00:42:52,623
without the data center. It is

1080
00:42:52,623 --> 00:42:55,623
in close proximity to this

1081
00:42:56,626 --> 00:42:57,360
neighborhood a little ho-hum

1082
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,529
waterways. The snow there is a

1083
00:42:59,529 --> 00:43:00,130
source of north port's

1084
00:43:00,130 --> 00:43:00,764
drinking water aquifer

1085
00:43:00,764 --> 00:43:01,464
transmit city the rate at

1086
00:43:01,464 --> 00:43:04,464
which groundwater flow as far

1087
00:43:07,337 --> 00:43:09,373
as is the second lowest rate.

1088
00:43:09,373 --> 00:43:11,541
10,000 feet square per day

1089
00:43:11,541 --> 00:43:12,242
having top of and geological

1090
00:43:12,242 --> 00:43:13,376
survey has been done to this

1091
00:43:13,376 --> 00:43:14,545
part of the peace river

1092
00:43:14,545 --> 00:43:16,945
watershed while listening to

1093
00:43:18,716 --> 00:43:20,217
the at I and the pra rws I

1094
00:43:20,217 --> 00:43:22,219
represented I heard we have

1095
00:43:22,219 --> 00:43:25,220
not my assumption and many I

1096
00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:25,856
don't know I understand why

1097
00:43:25,856 --> 00:43:28,856
you have show no need

1098
00:43:32,796 --> 00:43:33,463
representative plc go the isi

1099
00:43:33,463 --> 00:43:34,465
conveniently lost engine on

1100
00:43:34,465 --> 00:43:35,132
JULY 2720 26, no wonder he

1101
00:43:35,132 --> 00:43:37,532
didn't have any definitive

1102
00:43:38,569 --> 00:43:40,637
answers to the commissioner's

1103
00:43:40,637 --> 00:43:41,304
questions that guy participate

1104
00:43:41,304 --> 00:43:41,939
in local government jobs to

1105
00:43:41,939 --> 00:43:44,339
discuss the benefits and

1106
00:43:44,542 --> 00:43:46,543
technology needs of large

1107
00:43:46,543 --> 00:43:48,411
digital facilities. According

1108
00:43:48,411 --> 00:43:49,112
to communities should about

1109
00:43:49,112 --> 00:43:51,148
the way center's the way they

1110
00:43:51,148 --> 00:43:51,848
have made any major economic

1111
00:43:51,848 --> 00:43:53,617
development proposal. That's

1112
00:43:53,617 --> 00:43:56,170
impacts and 4 with the

1113
00:44:01,291 --> 00:44:01,925
community's should meet

1114
00:44:01,925 --> 00:44:04,325
rigorous standard for use

1115
00:44:05,329 --> 00:44:08,980
traffic noise land use public

1116
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:10,980
safety, global canada 337

1117
00:44:12,203 --> 00:44:13,136
china 449 uk 5.23 germany, 5

1118
00:44:13,136 --> 00:44:16,136
29 us 5,427 north port is no

1119
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:20,845
place for guests enter. Us. I

1120
00:44:20,845 --> 00:44:22,313
am one the resident port for

1121
00:44:22,313 --> 00:44:23,130
over 25 years I spent the last

1122
00:44:23,130 --> 00:44:25,916
meeting in my opinion has not

1123
00:44:25,916 --> 00:44:26,616
changed diapers data centers.

1124
00:44:26,616 --> 00:44:27,284
I do propose site which is to

1125
00:44:27,284 --> 00:44:30,284
question my home and saw 2

1126
00:44:33,323 --> 00:44:34,240
year. Police council of the

1127
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:35,225
right now and the time limit

1128
00:44:35,225 --> 00:44:35,959
and deny the permit based

1129
00:44:35,959 --> 00:44:36,626
efficiency this does not count

1130
00:44:36,626 --> 00:44:38,862
as a burdensome act and we

1131
00:44:38,862 --> 00:44:39,596
cannot be sued part of the

1132
00:44:39,596 --> 00:44:41,996
pending ordinance stop turn

1133
00:44:45,369 --> 00:44:46,470
out all occasions right well,

1134
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:47,470
protections bsp for this in

1135
00:44:47,470 --> 00:44:48,638
short little communities

1136
00:44:48,638 --> 00:44:49,306
retain full authority over

1137
00:44:49,306 --> 00:44:49,974
comprehensive planning and

1138
00:44:49,974 --> 00:44:52,374
zoning for largely because

1139
00:44:54,644 --> 00:44:55,879
customers. The moment, current

1140
00:44:55,879 --> 00:44:57,915
permit expires the commission

1141
00:44:57,915 --> 00:44:58,482
must immediately permanent

1142
00:44:58,482 --> 00:44:59,182
wellfield protection

1143
00:44:59,182 --> 00:45:01,582
ordinances directly into land

1144
00:45:02,553 --> 00:45:04,553
development regulation lprs

1145
00:45:04,788 --> 00:45:06,690
any future hyperscale projects

1146
00:45:06,690 --> 00:45:07,657
will then be forced to legally

1147
00:45:07,657 --> 00:45:09,660
prove its massive water

1148
00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:11,940
consumption will not harm

1149
00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:12,797
local infrastructure or water

1150
00:45:12,797 --> 00:45:14,131
resources we do not risky

1151
00:45:14,131 --> 00:45:14,798
sweeping moratoriums are messy

1152
00:45:14,798 --> 00:45:15,499
bands that by multi million

1153
00:45:15,499 --> 00:45:18,499
dollar about her lawsuit and

1154
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,670
are asking one 80 by ministry

1155
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:22,700
actually kill the current

1156
00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:24,842
permit using illicit counties,

1157
00:45:24,842 --> 00:45:27,770
pending ordinance doctor and

1158
00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:28,779
to freeze new corporate tech

1159
00:45:28,779 --> 00:45:29,847
team today and reading

1160
00:45:29,847 --> 00:45:31,248
targeted infrastructures and

1161
00:45:31,248 --> 00:45:32,116
wellfield that actions and are

1162
00:45:32,116 --> 00:45:34,516
asking for tomorrow and

1163
00:45:35,686 --> 00:45:36,921
protect to stop for a secure

1164
00:45:36,921 --> 00:45:38,989
real results. One unified down

1165
00:45:38,989 --> 00:45:39,890
land development code and are

1166
00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:42,290
skilled a nurse to

1167
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,860
nondisclosure agreements don't

1168
00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:44,528
allow don't approve the staff

1169
00:45:44,528 --> 00:45:45,129
center application reversed

1170
00:45:45,129 --> 00:45:47,129
administrative approval

1171
00:45:49,466 --> 00:45:51,368
process. Within island about

1172
00:45:51,368 --> 00:45:53,471
coach change this ac

1173
00:45:53,471 --> 00:45:54,438
commercial and or industrial

1174
00:45:54,438 --> 00:45:55,506
lands basically an ordinance

1175
00:45:55,506 --> 00:45:57,741
creating a permanent ban for

1176
00:45:57,741 --> 00:45:59,176
all north presenting district

1177
00:45:59,176 --> 00:45:59,877
concerned about the water use

1178
00:45:59,877 --> 00:46:00,411
electricity demand quality of

1179
00:46:00,411 --> 00:46:01,780
life preserving our

1180
00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:02,880
communities make the right

1181
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,280
choice. When series see

1182
00:46:08,652 --> 00:46:09,286
dorian. Please more and more

1183
00:46:09,286 --> 00:46:09,887
development without first

1184
00:46:09,887 --> 00:46:11,555
addressing the problems

1185
00:46:11,555 --> 00:46:12,756
created by road we already

1186
00:46:12,756 --> 00:46:15,593
have north port does not need

1187
00:46:15,593 --> 00:46:16,327
to keep adding housing and

1188
00:46:16,327 --> 00:46:17,695
expanding development happened

1189
00:46:17,695 --> 00:46:18,695
infrastructure schools and

1190
00:46:18,695 --> 00:46:19,763
public services are still

1191
00:46:19,763 --> 00:46:22,266
trying to catch up residents

1192
00:46:22,266 --> 00:46:22,900
who already live here should

1193
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:23,600
be the priority I do not

1194
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,267
support expanding all part by

1195
00:46:24,267 --> 00:46:26,667
another 81 acres until the

1196
00:46:26,771 --> 00:46:27,504
city can show base. That's

1197
00:46:27,504 --> 00:46:29,504
surrounding infrastructure can

1198
00:46:35,413 --> 00:46:36,547
surely handle additional I was

1199
00:46:36,547 --> 00:46:37,315
the mayor 100 be built in port

1200
00:46:37,315 --> 00:46:38,783
at the commission meeting last

1201
00:46:38,783 --> 00:46:39,483
week numerous residents were

1202
00:46:39,483 --> 00:46:42,483
very vocal about thinking up

1203
00:46:44,655 --> 00:46:45,556
center's in port that's

1204
00:46:45,556 --> 00:46:46,290
terrible out also expressed

1205
00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:47,992
unhappiness with the fact that

1206
00:46:47,992 --> 00:46:48,692
someone at city hall

1207
00:46:48,692 --> 00:46:49,393
apparently up for best inside

1208
00:46:49,393 --> 00:46:50,928
also the residents were kept

1209
00:46:50,928 --> 00:46:52,997
in the dark for a year or

1210
00:46:52,997 --> 00:46:54,698
more. This is no way to govern

1211
00:46:54,698 --> 00:46:55,332
the city the data center will

1212
00:46:55,332 --> 00:46:55,833
without a doubt that port

1213
00:46:55,833 --> 00:46:57,833
residents and for

1214
00:47:01,872 --> 00:47:03,807
contaminated. Our white strong

1215
00:47:03,807 --> 00:47:05,476
national cars there and

1216
00:47:05,476 --> 00:47:06,176
isolation and lead to

1217
00:47:06,176 --> 00:47:09,776
everybody you all need to say

1218
00:47:10,547 --> 00:47:11,782
now the stupid thank you all

1219
00:47:11,782 --> 00:47:12,783
I'm not necessarily husband

1220
00:47:12,783 --> 00:47:15,185
but I strongly believe that

1221
00:47:15,185 --> 00:47:15,886
the proposed site is wrong if

1222
00:47:15,886 --> 00:47:16,453
we must have then building in

1223
00:47:16,453 --> 00:47:18,853
the middle of nowhere

1224
00:47:19,890 --> 00:47:21,792
somewhere between here which

1225
00:47:21,792 --> 00:47:22,425
rachel the citizens of north

1226
00:47:22,425 --> 00:47:25,425
port and not a implement

1227
00:47:26,898 --> 00:47:27,798
implementation of the a. Sam

1228
00:47:27,798 --> 00:47:29,133
dean martin now good morning

1229
00:47:29,133 --> 00:47:31,101
commissioners, my name is sam,

1230
00:47:31,101 --> 00:47:31,935
I'm commenting today with the

1231
00:47:31,935 --> 00:47:32,669
director for this time as we

1232
00:47:32,669 --> 00:47:35,669
demand the immediate drought I

1233
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,107
had a permanent wellfield

1234
00:47:37,107 --> 00:47:39,760
protection ordinances directly

1235
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,476
into our land development

1236
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:43,800
regulations senate bill for we

1237
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,150
are with the ministry delays

1238
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:44,782
12 month study task force or

1239
00:47:44,782 --> 00:47:47,182
legally risky moratoriums that

1240
00:47:48,318 --> 00:47:49,620
trigger multi-million dollar

1241
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:51,688
over lawsuits under additional

1242
00:47:51,688 --> 00:47:52,422
pending war doctor you have

1243
00:47:52,422 --> 00:47:54,125
the legal authority right now

1244
00:47:54,125 --> 00:47:54,725
to officially announce were

1245
00:47:54,725 --> 00:47:55,425
dropped in these water

1246
00:47:55,425 --> 00:47:57,161
protections insulate freezing

1247
00:47:57,161 --> 00:47:58,295
any new hyperscale data center

1248
00:47:58,295 --> 00:48:00,295
applications from sneaking

1249
00:48:00,398 --> 00:48:01,310
into wars the political and

1250
00:48:01,310 --> 00:48:01,732
has dropped today and the

1251
00:48:01,732 --> 00:48:04,132
community is tracking exactly

1252
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,438
reach a new stance. For is

1253
00:48:07,438 --> 00:48:08,739
facing an industrial station,

1254
00:48:08,739 --> 00:48:09,407
a stop playing defense protect

1255
00:48:09,407 --> 00:48:10,407
wellfields here's sb 48 for

1256
00:48:10,407 --> 00:48:12,807
and protect florida's water

1257
00:48:15,379 --> 00:48:17,548
right now. Stop my name is

1258
00:48:17,548 --> 00:48:19,948
like to thank commissioner

1259
00:48:22,486 --> 00:48:24,155
stokes 2610 5126 1023 2610 22

1260
00:48:24,155 --> 00:48:25,523
26 time 51 please consider

1261
00:48:25,523 --> 00:48:26,190
protecting our friend around a

1262
00:48:26,190 --> 00:48:28,325
lot noise and air pollution

1263
00:48:28,325 --> 00:48:30,325
and protecting wildlife

1264
00:48:30,394 --> 00:48:32,794
habitat, even though that

1265
00:48:34,165 --> 00:48:35,199
senator have a pr stunt scheme

1266
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:37,235
to lure you as we found last

1267
00:48:37,235 --> 00:48:38,235
week's meeting there are

1268
00:48:38,235 --> 00:48:39,837
several a reminder of one of

1269
00:48:39,837 --> 00:48:40,504
the presenter stated that

1270
00:48:40,504 --> 00:48:42,740
there could be 2200 to 506

1271
00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:44,709
figure jobs as a result of

1272
00:48:44,709 --> 00:48:45,409
building. But asked to provide

1273
00:48:45,409 --> 00:48:47,809
commissioners about could not

1274
00:48:48,478 --> 00:48:50,481
provide any statistics that

1275
00:48:50,481 --> 00:48:51,682
were factual 2610 23 nda

1276
00:48:51,682 --> 00:48:52,616
should not be allowed under

1277
00:48:52,616 --> 00:48:53,251
the sunshine law that allows

1278
00:48:53,251 --> 00:48:54,918
access to information to

1279
00:48:54,918 --> 00:48:57,318
protect government from the

1280
00:48:58,588 --> 00:48:59,857
deceptive practices and

1281
00:48:59,857 --> 00:49:01,224
procedures, 2610 22

1282
00:49:01,224 --> 00:49:01,959
administrative approval needs

1283
00:49:01,959 --> 00:49:02,693
to revert back to the hands of

1284
00:49:02,693 --> 00:49:05,693
the commissioners as they were

1285
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:08,599
elected by the resident of the

1286
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:09,233
city that they now ask for and

1287
00:49:09,233 --> 00:49:10,367
those represent staff and

1288
00:49:10,367 --> 00:49:12,169
other point in individual

1289
00:49:12,169 --> 00:49:12,737
should work with the

1290
00:49:12,737 --> 00:49:13,370
commissioners as they

1291
00:49:13,370 --> 00:49:15,105
represent the will of the

1292
00:49:15,105 --> 00:49:16,140
residents and not any agenda

1293
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:16,841
staff maybe brining

1294
00:49:16,841 --> 00:49:17,508
individuals that they have no

1295
00:49:17,508 --> 00:49:18,175
way out into the residence.

1296
00:49:18,175 --> 00:49:18,809
Thank you for your time and

1297
00:49:18,809 --> 00:49:20,809
consideration. That's all

1298
00:49:39,196 --> 00:49:40,464
there. For months city clerk.

1299
00:49:40,464 --> 00:49:41,398
The current vacancies for the

1300
00:49:41,398 --> 00:49:42,600
following boards and

1301
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:43,467
committees include our

1302
00:49:43,467 --> 00:49:45,467
investment for selection

1303
00:49:45,737 --> 00:49:46,404
committee charter review

1304
00:49:46,404 --> 00:49:47,104
advisory board citizens tax

1305
00:49:47,104 --> 00:49:49,730
oversight committee community

1306
00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:50,841
economic development advisory

1307
00:49:50,841 --> 00:49:52,841
board environmental advisory

1308
00:49:52,844 --> 00:49:54,745
board joint management

1309
00:49:54,745 --> 00:49:56,346
advisory recreation advisory

1310
00:49:56,346 --> 00:49:57,800
board and planning and zoning

1311
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:57,782
advisory board if anyone would

1312
00:49:57,782 --> 00:49:58,449
like more information please

1313
00:49:58,449 --> 00:50:01,449
see the city clerk's office

1314
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:03,854
thank you.

1315
00:50:03,854 --> 00:50:04,522
>> thank you. Okay we're going

1316
00:50:04,522 --> 00:50:08,122
to move to the consent city

1317
00:50:08,492 --> 00:50:10,892
manager any of vote.

1318
00:50:25,209 --> 00:50:25,777
>> you 26 stash.

1319
00:50:25,777 --> 00:50:27,777
Have public

1320
00:50:28,245 --> 00:50:31,245
comment city clerk, I'm going

1321
00:50:32,850 --> 00:50:35,153
to request a motion.

1322
00:50:35,153 --> 00:50:38,153
>> and get MISTER Mayor go

1323
00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:41,525
ahead I move to approve the

1324
00:50:41,525 --> 00:50:42,590
consent agenda, pulling which

1325
00:50:42,590 --> 00:50:44,590
is 26 dash 1062 for

1326
00:50:45,329 --> 00:50:46,290
discussion.

1327
00:50:46,290 --> 00:50:49,629
>> thank you have a motion on

1328
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:53,100
the floor made vice seconded

1329
00:50:53,571 --> 00:50:54,238
have a second by commissioner

1330
00:50:54,238 --> 00:50:56,638
for discussion that there's

1331
00:50:57,842 --> 00:51:00,242
nothing to that please

1332
00:51:03,448 --> 00:51:04,949
and that passes 5, city

1333
00:51:04,949 --> 00:51:07,919
manager who pull out of you.

1334
00:51:07,919 --> 00:51:09,200
Commissioner better.

1335
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,420
Commissioner floor is yours

1336
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:12,757
for discussion.

1337
00:51:12,757 --> 00:51:16,357
>> I just was is discussed the

1338
00:51:17,228 --> 00:51:20,228
sighting. To find out more

1339
00:51:21,198 --> 00:51:23,598
details about specific request

1340
00:51:27,972 --> 00:51:30,372
questions are. Every call.

1341
00:51:32,409 --> 00:51:35,409
From the the cycle 2526 fiscal

1342
00:51:37,982 --> 00:51:38,582
year. Quest for high water

1343
00:51:38,582 --> 00:51:40,582
vehicle it

1344
00:51:44,455 --> 00:51:45,823
we didn't approve that amount

1345
00:51:45,823 --> 00:51:47,823
when I

1346
00:51:48,659 --> 00:51:52,859
saw I just want to find out.

1347
00:51:56,660 --> 00:51:57,168
What to with and was found

1348
00:51:57,168 --> 00:51:58,803
most purchased or was it

1349
00:51:58,803 --> 00:52:00,104
something so just more

1350
00:52:00,104 --> 00:52:03,704
clarification if you so if you

1351
00:52:10,447 --> 00:52:13,551
can. If the staff can address

1352
00:52:13,551 --> 00:52:14,218
>> orange county's fire chief

1353
00:52:14,218 --> 00:52:14,919
or for cheap really talk to

1354
00:52:14,919 --> 00:52:17,722
the details. But yes that was

1355
00:52:17,722 --> 00:52:18,456
funded this is separate

1356
00:52:18,456 --> 00:52:18,923
vehicle. So we've been working

1357
00:52:18,923 --> 00:52:20,923
with france

1358
00:52:23,294 --> 00:52:25,294
JULY 2.

1359
00:52:26,297 --> 00:52:28,299
>> curly deputy fire chief

1360
00:52:28,299 --> 00:52:30,367
high water vehicle that's in

1361
00:52:30,367 --> 00:52:31,669
this year's budget was ordered

1362
00:52:31,669 --> 00:52:32,603
its not do until the

1363
00:52:32,603 --> 00:52:35,300
>> latter end of 2027 that's

1364
00:52:36,241 --> 00:52:38,420
when it will arrive. We also

1365
00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:40,244
sought out for a second high

1366
00:52:40,244 --> 00:52:42,146
water vehicle which we saw

1367
00:52:42,146 --> 00:52:43,614
grant which was partially

1368
00:52:43,614 --> 00:52:44,348
funding the high water vehicle

1369
00:52:44,348 --> 00:52:47,348
to cvg worker financing grants

1370
00:52:49,554 --> 00:52:50,487
on that that's what fy 20

1371
00:52:50,487 --> 00:52:51,756
seven's budget. This agenda

1372
00:52:51,756 --> 00:52:53,257
item is authorization to use

1373
00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:56,857
the piggy back to purchase set

1374
00:52:57,227 --> 00:52:57,896
vehicle.

1375
00:52:57,896 --> 00:53:00,896
>> for him use those grant

1376
00:53:02,233 --> 00:53:03,340
money use it that's just I'm

1377
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:05,936
sorry to hear if we don't use

1378
00:53:05,936 --> 00:53:08,936
amount that has been approved

1379
00:53:12,977 --> 00:53:14,440
by a grant. We use money what

1380
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,646
would to put together specific

1381
00:53:15,646 --> 00:53:16,314
second turnover the grants but

1382
00:53:16,314 --> 00:53:16,947
we have a signed agreement

1383
00:53:16,947 --> 00:53:18,583
that came to commission a

1384
00:53:18,583 --> 00:53:20,983
earlier in the year.

1385
00:53:23,421 --> 00:53:24,155
>> for the approval for this

1386
00:53:24,155 --> 00:53:27,155
grant. So we're moving forward

1387
00:53:27,492 --> 00:53:29,461
with that process and would be

1388
00:53:29,461 --> 00:53:33,610
I'm the next fiscal year. But

1389
00:53:35,366 --> 00:53:36,334
if we do not. Prove this

1390
00:53:36,334 --> 00:53:37,100
pathway for the purchase of

1391
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:40,100
that vehicle that yes there

1392
00:53:41,105 --> 00:53:41,472
would be a loss of grant

1393
00:53:41,472 --> 00:53:43,472
funding.

1394
00:53:44,976 --> 00:53:46,944
>> you we have in the city.

1395
00:53:46,944 --> 00:53:48,312
>> so we've been dual purpose

1396
00:53:48,312 --> 00:53:49,313
saying our brush trucks for

1397
00:53:49,313 --> 00:53:52,313
also for high water vehicles

1398
00:53:52,517 --> 00:53:53,184
these would be the first to of

1399
00:53:53,184 --> 00:53:56,688
these kind of this kind so

1400
00:53:56,688 --> 00:53:57,355
we're replacing one that we've

1401
00:53:57,355 --> 00:53:58,990
been borrowing that vehicle

1402
00:53:58,990 --> 00:53:59,691
through florida forest

1403
00:53:59,691 --> 00:54:03,294
service. But we had a lot of

1404
00:54:03,294 --> 00:54:04,295
mechanical issues with it. The

1405
00:54:04,295 --> 00:54:05,697
other one that we're

1406
00:54:05,697 --> 00:54:06,364
purchasing is new so we would

1407
00:54:06,364 --> 00:54:08,900
essentially we would end up

1408
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:10,900
with 3 of you.

1409
00:54:13,438 --> 00:54:14,238
>> from what I understand

1410
00:54:14,238 --> 00:54:17,238
police department has its own

1411
00:54:17,942 --> 00:54:18,843
or no public works they have

1412
00:54:18,843 --> 00:54:19,543
similar.

1413
00:54:19,543 --> 00:54:20,211
>> I can't speak to what the

1414
00:54:20,211 --> 00:54:22,611
police department asked for

1415
00:54:23,981 --> 00:54:24,782
high water vehicles, but when

1416
00:54:24,782 --> 00:54:25,950
an event happens the fire

1417
00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:27,151
department takes over

1418
00:54:27,151 --> 00:54:29,551
operational control of all

1419
00:54:29,687 --> 00:54:31,422
high water rescue vehicle

1420
00:54:31,422 --> 00:54:32,189
operations whether it be for

1421
00:54:32,189 --> 00:54:35,789
evacuations or but I can speak

1422
00:54:36,528 --> 00:54:37,628
to the vehicles that we have.

1423
00:54:37,628 --> 00:54:39,430
>> so in the city we do know

1424
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:41,366
we do not know how many high

1425
00:54:41,366 --> 00:54:43,167
water because we I know the

1426
00:54:43,167 --> 00:54:43,901
fire department has 3 I

1427
00:54:43,901 --> 00:54:45,570
believe that police department

1428
00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:48,305
has sought they have their

1429
00:54:48,305 --> 00:54:50,308
bear cat and I can deputy

1430
00:54:50,308 --> 00:54:52,543
rouse speak to assets that

1431
00:54:52,543 --> 00:54:54,312
they use for access to flooded

1432
00:54:54,312 --> 00:54:55,460
areas for law enforcement

1433
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:58,460
protections, but for fire we'd

1434
00:55:01,185 --> 00:55:01,752
be looking to have 3. Scott

1435
00:55:01,752 --> 00:55:04,152
from district make an

1436
00:55:06,457 --> 00:55:08,293
important clarification so. As

1437
00:55:08,293 --> 00:55:08,960
chief hurley said in the past

1438
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,660
we've used to brush trucks

1439
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:11,495
that we get from forestry, we

1440
00:55:11,495 --> 00:55:12,229
use them to access high water

1441
00:55:12,229 --> 00:55:15,229
areas. They're not designed or

1442
00:55:15,834 --> 00:55:18,536
built for that so we've done

1443
00:55:18,536 --> 00:55:20,704
that because it wasn't in the

1444
00:55:20,704 --> 00:55:22,239
sesame but I can tell it

1445
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:22,907
causes a tremendous amount of

1446
00:55:22,907 --> 00:55:23,575
damage water intrusion into

1447
00:55:23,575 --> 00:55:26,770
the actions and to out lots

1448
00:55:26,770 --> 00:55:26,844
and lots of problems. Often

1449
00:55:26,844 --> 00:55:29,244
times we've had breakdowns

1450
00:55:30,448 --> 00:55:31,816
partially part way through an

1451
00:55:31,816 --> 00:55:32,550
event and pretty significant

1452
00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:34,752
repairs. Afterwards on because

1453
00:55:34,752 --> 00:55:36,154
that are very difficult to get

1454
00:55:36,154 --> 00:55:36,987
parts for the vehicles that

1455
00:55:36,987 --> 00:55:39,924
were getting when we purchase

1456
00:55:39,924 --> 00:55:41,859
last year and couldn't grant

1457
00:55:41,859 --> 00:55:42,827
for their specifically

1458
00:55:42,827 --> 00:55:44,763
designed and purpose to be

1459
00:55:44,763 --> 00:55:45,730
high water vehicles so the

1460
00:55:45,730 --> 00:55:46,430
actions are water fjord cats

1461
00:55:46,430 --> 00:55:48,830
they're they're designed for

1462
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:51,500
this purpose. Fire rescue's

1463
00:55:52,971 --> 00:55:54,972
purpose and mission is for

1464
00:55:54,972 --> 00:55:56,140
rescue that's what we police

1465
00:55:56,140 --> 00:55:56,907
department has high water

1466
00:55:56,907 --> 00:55:59,307
vehicles for certain things

1467
00:55:59,911 --> 00:56:00,611
but that is to get out out to

1468
00:56:00,611 --> 00:56:01,279
areas that are flooded, they

1469
00:56:01,279 --> 00:56:01,980
can do what their job which

1470
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:02,981
dropped the primary purposes

1471
00:56:02,981 --> 00:56:05,483
is not rescue same month. Any

1472
00:56:05,483 --> 00:56:08,483
other department that has high

1473
00:56:08,486 --> 00:56:10,455
water vehicle particularly

1474
00:56:10,455 --> 00:56:11,323
purpose for them access areas

1475
00:56:11,323 --> 00:56:12,230
perform their duties if those

1476
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:14,423
vehicles are available during

1477
00:56:15,259 --> 00:56:15,993
storm or event. And we can

1478
00:56:15,993 --> 00:56:16,660
borrow them and put them under

1479
00:56:16,660 --> 00:56:18,864
our mission as part of our

1480
00:56:18,864 --> 00:56:21,264
rescue do that. Different

1481
00:56:21,932 --> 00:56:22,567
apartments have them because

1482
00:56:22,567 --> 00:56:24,967
utilities still needs to

1483
00:56:25,269 --> 00:56:26,104
access areas that are our

1484
00:56:26,104 --> 00:56:26,804
flood to get to areas. The

1485
00:56:26,804 --> 00:56:29,204
police department still needs

1486
00:56:29,807 --> 00:56:30,608
to access areas well and make

1487
00:56:30,608 --> 00:56:31,309
sure that people are breaking

1488
00:56:31,309 --> 00:56:34,309
into houses and flooded areas

1489
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:42,787
or to helps clear.

1490
00:56:42,787 --> 00:56:43,821
>> warren commission deputy

1491
00:56:43,821 --> 00:56:44,555
chief morales that he answered

1492
00:56:44,555 --> 00:56:46,955
questions, currently right now

1493
00:56:47,525 --> 00:56:48,726
the police only has one which

1494
00:56:48,726 --> 00:56:50,795
is the bearcat which has its

1495
00:56:50,795 --> 00:56:52,730
limitations that can only try

1496
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:54,532
to rub traversed about 4 feet

1497
00:56:54,532 --> 00:56:55,333
of water with the startling it

1498
00:56:55,333 --> 00:56:56,330
has its limitations but we did

1499
00:56:56,330 --> 00:56:59,633
have in this budget coming in

1500
00:57:00,872 --> 00:57:02,106
here. We did. I will high

1501
00:57:02,106 --> 00:57:02,740
water vehicle that we're

1502
00:57:02,740 --> 00:57:05,577
seeking for through a law

1503
00:57:05,577 --> 00:57:07,577
enforcement impact fees.

1504
00:57:12,350 --> 00:57:13,118
>> public

1505
00:57:13,118 --> 00:57:13,852
>> speak our structure we have

1506
00:57:13,852 --> 00:57:14,485
high water vehicle that we use

1507
00:57:14,485 --> 00:57:17,485
for recovery of like the

1508
00:57:19,570 --> 00:57:19,757
calls. Worst that either

1509
00:57:19,757 --> 00:57:20,424
deployed and get stranded or

1510
00:57:20,424 --> 00:57:23,424
get stranded for some other

1511
00:57:30,668 --> 00:57:31,569
reason.

1512
00:57:31,569 --> 00:57:34,569
>> coming the end, but you

1513
00:57:34,672 --> 00:57:38,872
know we as a city this entire

1514
00:57:39,810 --> 00:57:43,410
organization we have to be you

1515
00:57:44,216 --> 00:57:46,616
know embrace that concept

1516
00:57:47,752 --> 00:57:49,587
sharing the resources do so.

1517
00:57:49,587 --> 00:57:50,288
Guess this purchase

1518
00:57:50,288 --> 00:57:52,688
specifically because it was.

1519
00:57:56,494 --> 00:58:00,940
To grants and thank you. Think

1520
00:58:03,402 --> 00:58:04,102
that department for division.

1521
00:58:04,102 --> 00:58:07,102
Thank there's nobody else so

1522
00:58:14,946 --> 00:58:16,948
look for a motion. I move to

1523
00:58:16,948 --> 00:58:18,183
the utilization of so spread

1524
00:58:18,183 --> 00:58:20,183
of contract number 0, 3, 2, 8,

1525
00:58:23,855 --> 00:58:24,722
2, 4, dash c e r with

1526
00:58:24,722 --> 00:58:27,122
certified staying less service

1527
00:58:28,727 --> 00:58:30,294
dba was smart for the one-time

1528
00:58:30,294 --> 00:58:33,294
purchase. A high water rescue

1529
00:58:36,101 --> 00:58:36,734
vehicle and fiscal year 2027.

1530
00:58:36,734 --> 00:58:38,734
Utilizing sarasota county

1531
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:40,704
community development block

1532
00:58:40,704 --> 00:58:43,704
grant funding. In an amount

1533
00:58:49,470 --> 00:58:50,248
not to exceed $478,000 $823

1534
00:58:50,248 --> 00:58:52,684
motion on the floor made by

1535
00:58:52,684 --> 00:58:53,118
vice mayor seconded by

1536
00:58:53,118 --> 00:58:55,118
commissioner

1537
00:58:58,289 --> 00:59:00,689
>> there's nothing to vote.

1538
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,360
Old too

1539
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:11,669
public hearings. This is a

1540
00:59:11,669 --> 00:59:12,938
digitial and I request a

1541
00:59:12,938 --> 00:59:15,938
motion to direct the city

1542
00:59:16,341 --> 00:59:17,800
clerk to read by title so

1543
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,143
floor made by commissioner

1544
00:59:19,143 --> 00:59:22,143
stow seconded by vice mayor

1545
00:59:26,852 --> 00:59:28,887
there's nothing to bo. And

1546
00:59:28,887 --> 00:59:30,887
that passes 5, 0, city

1547
00:59:32,958 --> 00:59:34,725
ordinance number 2026 just 22.

1548
00:59:34,725 --> 00:59:36,928
>> and ordinance of the fl

1549
00:59:36,928 --> 00:59:39,328
approving petition number pmc

1550
00:59:39,431 --> 00:59:40,131
pa dash 25 dash 0, 3, 5, 6, 0,

1551
00:59:40,131 --> 00:59:42,367
2, men in the village village

1552
00:59:42,367 --> 00:59:44,767
district pattern plan west

1553
00:59:46,871 --> 00:59:48,773
villages ak part 2 update

1554
00:59:48,773 --> 00:59:49,908
non-residential last time

1555
00:59:49,908 --> 00:59:51,776
regulations and establish

1556
00:59:51,776 --> 00:59:52,477
consistent definitions for

1557
00:59:52,477 --> 00:59:54,813
public institutional uses and

1558
00:59:54,813 --> 00:59:55,947
civic spaces amending section

1559
00:59:55,947 --> 00:59:56,581
4003.1 of the unified land

1560
00:59:56,581 --> 00:59:58,981
development code uldc to

1561
00:59:59,450 --> 01:00:00,585
incorporate them ended pattern

1562
01:00:00,585 --> 01:00:02,585
plan reference amending

1563
01:00:04,456 --> 01:00:06,856
section 3005.2 with the uldc

1564
01:00:06,924 --> 01:00:07,626
to require village, the wall

1565
01:00:07,626 --> 01:00:10,361
signs to comply with the uldc

1566
01:00:10,361 --> 01:00:11,362
chapter 5 standards and to

1567
01:00:11,362 --> 01:00:12,290
provide deemed compliance and

1568
01:00:12,290 --> 01:00:13,531
legal non-conforming status

1569
01:00:13,531 --> 01:00:14,132
for certain existing signs

1570
01:00:14,132 --> 01:00:14,732
providing for findings

1571
01:00:14,732 --> 01:00:16,732
providing for adoption

1572
01:00:17,350 --> 01:00:17,668
providing for complex complex

1573
01:00:17,668 --> 01:00:19,668
severability codification

1574
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,842
effective date. There have

1575
01:00:23,842 --> 01:00:24,709
been no the party status

1576
01:00:24,709 --> 01:00:25,343
requests received for this one

1577
01:00:25,343 --> 01:00:26,770
and can everyone wishing

1578
01:00:26,770 --> 01:00:28,477
provide testimony please stand

1579
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:31,783
raise your right hand. You

1580
01:00:31,783 --> 01:00:32,484
swear or affirm that the

1581
01:00:32,484 --> 01:00:33,184
testimony you're about to

1582
01:00:33,184 --> 01:00:33,885
provide you and sure to best

1583
01:00:33,885 --> 01:00:36,885
you're not stopping to thank

1584
01:00:39,491 --> 01:00:40,659
you. Thank you

1585
01:00:40,659 --> 01:00:42,393
>> I'm looking for a parte

1586
01:00:42,393 --> 01:00:44,393
communications commissioner

1587
01:00:45,730 --> 01:00:48,130
>> only played. Stations the

1588
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,360
staff during job.

1589
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:55,173
>> nothing I have nothing but

1590
01:00:55,173 --> 01:00:56,741
for commissioner petro that's

1591
01:00:56,741 --> 01:00:59,741
my agenda briefing going with

1592
01:01:00,579 --> 01:01:03,579
that agenda and if you.

1593
01:01:11,890 --> 01:01:12,758
Presentation by applicant.

1594
01:01:12,758 --> 01:01:13,458
>> jones senior vice PRESIDENT

1595
01:01:13,458 --> 01:01:17,658
With well in part and I have

1596
01:01:18,964 --> 01:01:22,564
been sworn. The nexus of this

1597
01:01:25,570 --> 01:01:26,571
request actually came out the

1598
01:01:26,571 --> 01:01:30,171
ppp amendment will be the next

1599
01:01:30,208 --> 01:01:30,809
slide item village e. Point a

1600
01:01:30,809 --> 01:01:33,809
couple years or you may

1601
01:01:34,946 --> 01:01:35,647
remember that estimates

1602
01:01:35,647 --> 01:01:36,381
requested that they be

1603
01:01:36,381 --> 01:01:39,981
included in our village ev dpp

1604
01:01:40,385 --> 01:01:41,520
because they are.

1605
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:41,753
>> 28 acre site was not big

1606
01:01:41,753 --> 01:01:45,353
enough to qualify for of the

1607
01:01:45,724 --> 01:01:48,427
tpp. What we realized working

1608
01:01:48,427 --> 01:01:49,660
through those nuances with

1609
01:01:49,660 --> 01:01:52,730
each since a semi just happen

1610
01:01:52,730 --> 01:01:54,800
clean a governmental agency.

1611
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,469
They would basically be exempt

1612
01:01:57,469 --> 01:01:59,869
from certain signs like

1613
01:02:00,806 --> 01:02:01,473
lesions so the nexus of

1614
01:02:01,473 --> 01:02:04,473
changes actually a g 8 has

1615
01:02:05,109 --> 01:02:05,810
already built emergency says

1616
01:02:05,810 --> 01:02:08,713
all room in well-lit parking

1617
01:02:08,713 --> 01:02:09,881
and bought 30 acres to build

1618
01:02:09,881 --> 01:02:10,582
hospital. So there's a

1619
01:02:10,582 --> 01:02:12,784
potential down the road for 2

1620
01:02:12,784 --> 01:02:16,154
hospitals be a mile apart with

1621
01:02:16,154 --> 01:02:16,855
2 different signage standard.

1622
01:02:16,855 --> 01:02:18,823
So we started the process and

1623
01:02:18,823 --> 01:02:21,823
was agreed upon point to

1624
01:02:21,926 --> 01:02:23,662
update to the dpp so both

1625
01:02:23,662 --> 01:02:24,229
hospitals would operate the

1626
01:02:24,229 --> 01:02:26,629
same. Under the same

1627
01:02:28,967 --> 01:02:29,901
guidelines. Through that was

1628
01:02:29,901 --> 01:02:32,570
other things that staff run-up

1629
01:02:32,570 --> 01:02:33,604
just cleanup of the original

1630
01:02:33,604 --> 01:02:34,906
bpp so with that I'm going to

1631
01:02:34,906 --> 01:02:37,306
the presentation over that's

1632
01:02:38,142 --> 01:02:39,211
when ski a planner from stan

1633
01:02:39,211 --> 01:02:41,546
who actually did the blocking

1634
01:02:41,546 --> 01:02:42,246
tackling and prepared to the

1635
01:02:42,246 --> 01:02:42,915
dpp amendment. But it really

1636
01:02:42,915 --> 01:02:45,915
started with just one that

1637
01:02:46,351 --> 01:02:48,921
clean up the front. The book

1638
01:02:48,921 --> 01:02:53,121
that we have that we work with

1639
01:03:04,102 --> 01:03:05,690
him down south thank

1640
01:03:05,690 --> 01:03:07,690
>> do have apartment

1641
01:03:12,344 --> 01:03:15,344
presentation of it pull thank

1642
01:03:23,554 --> 01:03:27,154
I expand. So the whole show

1643
01:03:37,350 --> 01:03:37,736
one.

1644
01:03:37,736 --> 01:03:41,936
>> it so that you need to do

1645
01:03:42,207 --> 01:03:44,242
is you gotta start home. Okay

1646
01:03:44,242 --> 01:03:46,242
I don't know.

1647
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:50,148
>> farm okay for everybody

1648
01:03:50,148 --> 01:03:51,316
okay good morning, everyone.

1649
01:03:51,316 --> 01:03:52,500
My name is hannah smolinski

1650
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:56,880
I'm a planner stand tech and i

1651
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:56,755
have been sworn. I'm here to

1652
01:03:56,755 --> 01:03:57,389
present an amendment to the

1653
01:03:57,389 --> 01:03:59,389
village village district

1654
01:04:00,291 --> 01:04:03,291
pattern plan. I'm here to

1655
01:04:05,530 --> 01:04:06,731
applicants on the this is a

1656
01:04:06,731 --> 01:04:07,732
two-part application

1657
01:04:07,732 --> 01:04:08,466
consisting of a village

1658
01:04:08,466 --> 01:04:09,101
district pattern plan

1659
01:04:09,101 --> 01:04:12,101
amendment and a uldc text

1660
01:04:14,306 --> 01:04:15,400
amendment. Is located within

1661
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,440
baldwin park within the

1662
01:04:18,877 --> 01:04:20,579
southwest quadrant of us 41

1663
01:04:20,579 --> 01:04:23,579
and west villages parkway and

1664
01:04:25,170 --> 01:04:27,170
it's approximately 595 a

1665
01:04:27,819 --> 01:04:30,210
little bit of background, the

1666
01:04:30,210 --> 01:04:32,190
ppp was originally adopted in

1667
01:04:32,190 --> 01:04:34,125
SEPTEMBER of 2017 since not

1668
01:04:34,125 --> 01:04:36,525
adoption. It's been amended

1669
01:04:37,610 --> 01:04:37,996
twice first and MAY of

1670
01:04:37,996 --> 01:04:38,697
recommendations for mobile

1671
01:04:38,697 --> 01:04:41,970
food dispensing vehicles and

1672
01:04:42,734 --> 01:04:43,736
commercial floating docks and

1673
01:04:43,736 --> 01:04:44,436
modifying people for the

1674
01:04:44,436 --> 01:04:47,436
second amendment was in APRIL

1675
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:48,740
of 2023 to revise minimum

1676
01:04:48,740 --> 01:04:50,742
parking standards to include a

1677
01:04:50,742 --> 01:04:53,142
provision to modify parking

1678
01:04:53,845 --> 01:04:54,546
standards on a case-by-case

1679
01:04:54,546 --> 01:04:55,147
basis and to provide parking

1680
01:04:55,147 --> 01:04:57,147
standards not otherwise

1681
01:05:00,485 --> 01:05:02,720
specified. A component of this

1682
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,120
amendment is updating language

1683
01:05:05,356 --> 01:05:07,756
with section 4013003.1 of the

1684
01:05:08,460 --> 01:05:10,496
pattern plan. The existing

1685
01:05:10,496 --> 01:05:11,563
language related to science

1686
01:05:11,563 --> 01:05:12,230
standards and review criteria

1687
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:15,230
is being changed to science

1688
01:05:17,202 --> 01:05:18,503
standards and review shown on

1689
01:05:18,503 --> 01:05:19,304
this slide the updated from

1690
01:05:19,304 --> 01:05:22,174
which treats not all sides

1691
01:05:22,174 --> 01:05:22,908
must comply with standards

1692
01:05:22,908 --> 01:05:23,575
established in the uldc and be

1693
01:05:23,575 --> 01:05:24,642
approved by the restaurant

1694
01:05:24,642 --> 01:05:27,420
just review committee. Prior

1695
01:05:29,381 --> 01:05:30,482
to city review. As it relates

1696
01:05:30,482 --> 01:05:32,284
the building was signed to the

1697
01:05:32,284 --> 01:05:35,186
practice has been updated all

1698
01:05:35,186 --> 01:05:36,288
building wall sine shall

1699
01:05:36,288 --> 01:05:38,256
comply with chapter 5 of the

1700
01:05:38,256 --> 01:05:39,758
uldc and the advent of any

1701
01:05:39,758 --> 01:05:40,492
conflicts between the pot plan

1702
01:05:40,492 --> 01:05:44,920
and the uldc the uldc standard

1703
01:05:45,364 --> 01:05:47,364
shall prevail. Another

1704
01:05:49,368 --> 01:05:51,768
amendment to section relates

1705
01:05:53,172 --> 01:05:53,872
to signage design and

1706
01:05:53,872 --> 01:05:55,872
installation standards shown

1707
01:05:56,441 --> 01:05:57,175
on this slide, this section is

1708
01:05:57,175 --> 01:05:57,876
proposed to be removed from

1709
01:05:57,876 --> 01:06:00,876
the pattern plan and instead

1710
01:06:00,979 --> 01:06:01,613
refers to maintaining

1711
01:06:01,613 --> 01:06:03,613
compliance section 13 of

1712
01:06:04,916 --> 01:06:06,385
district pot and vote the

1713
01:06:06,385 --> 01:06:08,520
existing language on the part

1714
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:09,321
of plan is similar to the

1715
01:06:09,321 --> 01:06:11,721
standards within the pattern

1716
01:06:12,824 --> 01:06:13,558
about this amendment would

1717
01:06:13,558 --> 01:06:14,292
reduce redundancy and offering

1718
01:06:14,292 --> 01:06:16,692
more consistent review process

1719
01:06:17,863 --> 01:06:18,497
for staff. And it looks like

1720
01:06:18,497 --> 01:06:19,640
my computers and comment

1721
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,464
during a level ended

1722
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,200
statement.

1723
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,400
>> yeah, I think it took

1724
01:06:30,642 --> 01:06:33,642
control of want share now.

1725
01:06:42,354 --> 01:06:45,954
Yeah, I'm gonna take it off.

1726
01:06:59,204 --> 01:07:03,404
>> help is on the way. Not so

1727
01:07:14,186 --> 01:07:16,186
thank

1728
01:07:20,325 --> 01:07:21,260
I can now

1729
01:07:21,260 --> 01:07:24,860
all right. I'm just going to

1730
01:07:26,698 --> 01:07:28,698
keep

1731
01:07:29,601 --> 01:07:30,535
>> lastly we're also adding

1732
01:07:30,535 --> 01:07:31,237
the definition for public

1733
01:07:31,237 --> 01:07:32,938
institutional uses and civic

1734
01:07:32,938 --> 01:07:35,938
spaces into this pattern plan

1735
01:07:36,442 --> 01:07:37,142
to provide consistency across

1736
01:07:37,142 --> 01:07:40,142
all dpp's as john previously

1737
01:07:41,180 --> 01:07:41,847
stated definition it's already

1738
01:07:41,847 --> 01:07:42,514
included in pryor a potted

1739
01:07:42,514 --> 01:07:45,514
plants are adding get into

1740
01:07:45,850 --> 01:07:48,530
this one as well. The second

1741
01:07:48,530 --> 01:07:48,754
part of the amendment is the

1742
01:07:48,754 --> 01:07:51,390
uldc parks amendment and the

1743
01:07:51,390 --> 01:07:54,990
purpose is to c between the

1744
01:07:56,610 --> 01:07:58,597
pollen plan and the uldc. As

1745
01:07:58,597 --> 01:07:59,265
shown on this site section

1746
01:07:59,265 --> 01:07:59,965
3005.2 of the code is being

1747
01:07:59,965 --> 01:08:02,965
amended to match the language

1748
01:08:04,436 --> 01:08:05,237
within the pattern on

1749
01:08:05,237 --> 01:08:05,837
amendment is necessary to make

1750
01:08:05,837 --> 01:08:06,572
consistency between the

1751
01:08:06,572 --> 01:08:10,420
pattern plan for village d and

1752
01:08:10,420 --> 01:08:12,442
the uldc. There numerous

1753
01:08:13,745 --> 01:08:14,679
benefits to this amendment,

1754
01:08:14,679 --> 01:08:16,679
including simplifying staff

1755
01:08:18,317 --> 01:08:19,651
review up signs up for village

1756
01:08:19,651 --> 01:08:20,285
and serves the public interest

1757
01:08:20,285 --> 01:08:22,685
and support access to

1758
01:08:22,988 --> 01:08:24,156
essential services such as

1759
01:08:24,156 --> 01:08:24,856
medical facilities provides

1760
01:08:24,856 --> 01:08:27,256
consistency between the power

1761
01:08:28,930 --> 01:08:29,280
plant and the uldc it causes

1762
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,280
no harm to adjacent properties

1763
01:08:32,998 --> 01:08:33,932
road networks are emergency

1764
01:08:33,932 --> 01:08:34,600
access. And it maintains

1765
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:35,267
architectural compatibility

1766
01:08:35,267 --> 01:08:37,667
through the restaurant just

1767
01:08:38,237 --> 01:08:38,971
review committee review. With

1768
01:08:38,971 --> 01:08:42,571
that we ask for your approval.

1769
01:08:44,576 --> 01:08:46,576
Thank you.

1770
01:08:59,591 --> 01:09:01,591
>> thank

1771
01:09:02,270 --> 01:09:04,427
>> please it don't take

1772
01:09:15,341 --> 01:09:18,341
control. I don't know working

1773
01:09:20,412 --> 01:09:21,613
good morning. Commissioners.

1774
01:09:21,613 --> 01:09:22,748
>> for the record sherry well

1775
01:09:22,748 --> 01:09:23,448
that grant planner 3 planning

1776
01:09:23,448 --> 01:09:27,480
and zoning does of vision and

1777
01:09:27,453 --> 01:09:28,120
I have been sworn. So has

1778
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,823
presented and it put thank

1779
01:09:30,823 --> 01:09:33,823
you. So this is we're

1780
01:09:34,226 --> 01:09:36,626
discussing the village the

1781
01:09:38,864 --> 01:09:39,664
village district pattern plan

1782
01:09:39,664 --> 01:09:42,640
amendment. It is petition

1783
01:09:44,269 --> 01:09:46,669
number pm cpa 25 dash 0, 3, 5,

1784
01:09:51,710 --> 01:09:53,710
6, 0, the ordinance 2026, 22.

1785
01:09:53,713 --> 01:09:56,113
Okay some highlights of

1786
01:09:56,715 --> 01:10:00,315
applicant is katie of of icp

1787
01:10:00,819 --> 01:10:01,887
stantec consulting services

1788
01:10:01,887 --> 01:10:05,487
the owner is main street light

1789
01:10:05,624 --> 01:10:06,224
ranch the property is located

1790
01:10:06,224 --> 01:10:08,624
west help west villages

1791
01:10:11,530 --> 01:10:13,432
parkway in south of us 41.

1792
01:10:13,432 --> 01:10:15,432
Proximate property sizes

1793
01:10:16,402 --> 01:10:18,802
595.21 total acres. So with

1794
01:10:21,340 --> 01:10:22,441
the village it comprises of

1795
01:10:22,441 --> 01:10:25,441
the downtown area if you're

1796
01:10:26,780 --> 01:10:27,413
familiar with the area. It's

1797
01:10:27,413 --> 01:10:28,513
home, with the downtown and

1798
01:10:28,513 --> 01:10:31,550
the fire station is where the

1799
01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:32,785
big lake just so that there is

1800
01:10:32,785 --> 01:10:34,987
some contacts so the purpose

1801
01:10:34,987 --> 01:10:36,522
of this application as stated

1802
01:10:36,522 --> 01:10:38,657
by the applicant is to

1803
01:10:38,657 --> 01:10:39,959
standardize the sign

1804
01:10:39,959 --> 01:10:40,659
regulations by adopting the

1805
01:10:40,659 --> 01:10:42,659
2024 unified land development

1806
01:10:46,165 --> 01:10:48,133
code chapter 5. And then we

1807
01:10:48,133 --> 01:10:50,533
also have amend section 3005.2

1808
01:10:54,539 --> 01:10:57,410
of the uldc. This is

1809
01:10:57,410 --> 01:10:59,810
concerning all non residential

1810
01:11:00,145 --> 01:11:01,514
wall are also amending the

1811
01:11:01,514 --> 01:11:03,148
village gdp to clarify very

1812
01:11:03,148 --> 01:11:04,349
specifically that the unified

1813
01:11:04,349 --> 01:11:04,983
land development code will

1814
01:11:04,983 --> 01:11:07,383
take precedence over the

1815
01:11:09,387 --> 01:11:11,390
village district pattern plan

1816
01:11:11,390 --> 01:11:14,293
and the applicant is required

1817
01:11:14,293 --> 01:11:17,329
the wbrc a profile so the wbrc

1818
01:11:17,329 --> 01:11:17,996
is the west village's review

1819
01:11:17,996 --> 01:11:18,730
committee is outside of the

1820
01:11:18,730 --> 01:11:21,730
city is their review committee

1821
01:11:24,736 --> 01:11:26,638
for their design standards.

1822
01:11:26,638 --> 01:11:27,773
They and also they have to

1823
01:11:27,773 --> 01:11:28,407
have the approval for all

1824
01:11:28,407 --> 01:11:30,742
signage before it goes to

1825
01:11:30,742 --> 01:11:33,142
building permit for city

1826
01:11:34,380 --> 01:11:35,810
approval. In addition to that

1827
01:11:35,810 --> 01:11:37,481
definitions have been updated

1828
01:11:39,384 --> 01:11:40,850
to included public

1829
01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:42,321
institutional uses and civic

1830
01:11:42,321 --> 01:11:43,210
spaces in the village dvd pay

1831
01:11:43,210 --> 01:11:43,656
this is consistent consistent

1832
01:11:43,656 --> 01:11:46,560
with the village district

1833
01:11:48,260 --> 01:11:50,162
pattern plan. Also to

1834
01:11:50,162 --> 01:11:50,896
establish legal nonconforming

1835
01:11:50,896 --> 01:11:53,896
status for all signage legally

1836
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:56,700
permitted or installed before

1837
01:11:56,802 --> 01:11:58,871
the ordinance is effective day

1838
01:11:58,871 --> 01:12:00,773
and what does that mean so

1839
01:12:00,773 --> 01:12:02,174
once the ordinance becomes

1840
01:12:02,174 --> 01:12:03,508
effective any new signage will

1841
01:12:03,508 --> 01:12:04,210
have to comply with the

1842
01:12:04,210 --> 01:12:07,210
chapter 5 of the unified land

1843
01:12:08,814 --> 01:12:10,850
development code for signage.

1844
01:12:10,850 --> 01:12:12,718
A pivot use be a provision has

1845
01:12:12,718 --> 01:12:15,210
been placed in for signs that

1846
01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:16,889
have been legally permitted

1847
01:12:16,889 --> 01:12:17,623
legally installed that they

1848
01:12:17,623 --> 01:12:19,425
can continue without creating

1849
01:12:19,425 --> 01:12:23,250
any issues for any of the

1850
01:12:24,730 --> 01:12:25,397
owners to come into compliance

1851
01:12:25,397 --> 01:12:26,980
also in evaluating that we

1852
01:12:26,980 --> 01:12:29,980
wanted to have that provision

1853
01:12:31,236 --> 01:12:32,304
just in case. Any of the signs

1854
01:12:32,304 --> 01:12:35,304
now our chapter 5 in the

1855
01:12:36,108 --> 01:12:38,508
unified land development code

1856
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:39,778
is more flexible than the

1857
01:12:39,778 --> 01:12:40,880
provisions that they currently

1858
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,283
have in the village dvd pp

1859
01:12:44,283 --> 01:12:45,184
they're very restrictive and

1860
01:12:45,184 --> 01:12:48,784
what they did and also this

1861
01:12:49,922 --> 01:12:51,790
would bring a consistency. For

1862
01:12:51,790 --> 01:12:53,926
all signage. In addition we

1863
01:12:53,926 --> 01:12:56,926
will have to amend section

1864
01:12:57,797 --> 01:12:58,730
4003.1 of the uldc to

1865
01:12:58,730 --> 01:12:59,932
reference the village g

1866
01:12:59,932 --> 01:13:01,834
village district pattern plan

1867
01:13:01,834 --> 01:13:03,969
so our current uldc has a

1868
01:13:03,969 --> 01:13:04,637
listing of all of the villages

1869
01:13:04,637 --> 01:13:08,237
the history and all of the

1870
01:13:08,874 --> 01:13:10,977
ordinances so. When wendy if

1871
01:13:10,977 --> 01:13:12,378
this is approved by the city

1872
01:13:12,378 --> 01:13:13,780
commission and that will

1873
01:13:13,780 --> 01:13:15,780
automatically update unified

1874
01:13:18,818 --> 01:13:20,553
land development code. So it

1875
01:13:20,553 --> 01:13:23,553
was previously stated there is

1876
01:13:25,491 --> 01:13:28,461
a long approval regarding this

1877
01:13:28,461 --> 01:13:29,996
particular village. So 2017

1878
01:13:29,996 --> 01:13:31,996
SEPTEMBER 26, the original

1879
01:13:33,799 --> 01:13:36,168
villages town centered village

1880
01:13:36,168 --> 01:13:38,568
was approved in 2021 there

1881
01:13:38,938 --> 01:13:41,407
were the provisions to ask for

1882
01:13:41,407 --> 01:13:43,409
food trucks to regulate mobile

1883
01:13:43,409 --> 01:13:45,409
food, commercial docks

1884
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:48,414
landscape buffers we did not

1885
01:13:48,414 --> 01:13:50,116
have any provisions of code at

1886
01:13:50,116 --> 01:13:52,952
that time to allow for those

1887
01:13:52,952 --> 01:13:56,552
mobile food vendors or for a

1888
01:13:57,623 --> 01:13:59,623
commercial law. APRIL 2520 23.

1889
01:13:59,625 --> 01:14:00,325
Another man that was bought to

1890
01:14:00,325 --> 01:14:02,695
commission to adjust parking

1891
01:14:02,695 --> 01:14:03,762
standards on a case-by-case

1892
01:14:03,762 --> 01:14:06,632
basis. So I'd like to explain

1893
01:14:06,632 --> 01:14:08,401
that a little bit our current

1894
01:14:08,401 --> 01:14:10,801
unified land development if

1895
01:14:10,903 --> 01:14:14,503
there is a for parking that's

1896
01:14:15,740 --> 01:14:17,442
not explicitly stated how many

1897
01:14:17,442 --> 01:14:18,277
parking spaces. Up they can

1898
01:14:18,277 --> 01:14:20,677
administrative approval by a

1899
01:14:21,980 --> 01:14:23,980
transportation expert showing.

1900
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:25,684
But if there's needs to be a

1901
01:14:25,684 --> 01:14:26,319
reduction or increase in

1902
01:14:26,319 --> 01:14:26,986
parking it has to be

1903
01:14:26,986 --> 01:14:29,986
justified. There has to be

1904
01:14:30,389 --> 01:14:32,392
data that supports that so

1905
01:14:32,392 --> 01:14:34,961
this is very similar to that

1906
01:14:34,961 --> 01:14:35,661
this is not we're not changing

1907
01:14:35,661 --> 01:14:39,261
that in plan it will continue

1908
01:14:43,268 --> 01:14:44,470
on. So the application details

1909
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:45,104
the timeline this application

1910
01:14:45,104 --> 01:14:47,504
was submitted AUGUST 25th

1911
01:14:50,442 --> 01:14:52,979
2025. And again to amend the

1912
01:14:52,979 --> 01:14:55,979
village d the tpp concerning

1913
01:15:01,521 --> 01:15:02,288
what I just explained. So site

1914
01:15:02,288 --> 01:15:04,256
informations to be a future

1915
01:15:04,256 --> 01:15:04,824
land use map is village of the

1916
01:15:04,824 --> 01:15:06,920
which is the village

1917
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,920
designation as well as the

1918
01:15:10,129 --> 01:15:11,430
zoning the existing land uses

1919
01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:11,998
is a recreation and cultural

1920
01:15:11,998 --> 01:15:14,398
events and mixed use

1921
01:15:15,634 --> 01:15:17,102
comprising of commercial

1922
01:15:17,102 --> 01:15:19,502
multi. Family development also

1923
01:15:26,379 --> 01:15:30,383
a hotel on the site here. This

1924
01:15:30,383 --> 01:15:31,830
has undergone multi department

1925
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:33,853
review with in every area of

1926
01:15:33,853 --> 01:15:35,854
with the development review

1927
01:15:35,854 --> 01:15:36,588
committee. So a lot of the

1928
01:15:36,588 --> 01:15:40,188
staff with you because this is

1929
01:15:40,693 --> 01:15:43,462
not related to changing of any

1930
01:15:43,462 --> 01:15:44,196
land use or construction

1931
01:15:44,196 --> 01:15:47,196
element it simply adopting and

1932
01:15:47,433 --> 01:15:49,833
incorporating our signage so

1933
01:15:50,536 --> 01:15:53,339
there were no for parks and

1934
01:15:53,339 --> 01:15:54,400
rec and then there were no

1935
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:54,807
responses there's no response

1936
01:15:54,807 --> 01:15:58,407
is it meant that the reviewer

1937
01:15:58,410 --> 01:15:59,511
had no comments or concerns,

1938
01:15:59,511 --> 01:16:01,480
especially for storm water

1939
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:02,715
they had no response there is

1940
01:16:02,715 --> 01:16:03,916
no changes to storm water with

1941
01:16:03,916 --> 01:16:06,510
this amendment or any thing

1942
01:16:06,510 --> 01:16:06,752
like as I previously stated

1943
01:16:06,752 --> 01:16:09,152
regarding development of the

1944
01:16:13,260 --> 01:16:13,959
site. So in order to evaluate

1945
01:16:13,959 --> 01:16:14,894
things we have to make sure

1946
01:16:14,894 --> 01:16:17,196
this complies with consistency

1947
01:16:17,196 --> 01:16:17,897
with our city our

1948
01:16:17,897 --> 01:16:20,297
comprehensive plan. Also the

1949
01:16:22,268 --> 01:16:23,202
unified land development code.

1950
01:16:23,202 --> 01:16:24,504
So the proposed amendment does

1951
01:16:24,504 --> 01:16:26,706
align with the comprehensive

1952
01:16:26,706 --> 01:16:29,875
plan, the future land use go

1953
01:16:29,875 --> 01:16:31,443
by creating consistent unified

1954
01:16:31,443 --> 01:16:32,177
science standards that will

1955
01:16:32,177 --> 01:16:34,577
minimize visual blight safety

1956
01:16:35,147 --> 01:16:36,950
hazards in regulatory

1957
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:38,950
conflict. Furthermore the

1958
01:16:40,190 --> 01:16:42,190
amenity hears policy 5.1

1959
01:16:42,210 --> 01:16:44,123
subsection f by updating

1960
01:16:44,123 --> 01:16:46,893
village g sign regulations to

1961
01:16:46,893 --> 01:16:47,927
meet citywide standards while

1962
01:16:47,927 --> 01:16:48,594
protecting existing businesses

1963
01:16:48,594 --> 01:16:50,994
through a deemed compliance

1964
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:54,200
mechanism permitted

1965
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:55,368
non-residential while signage

1966
01:16:55,368 --> 01:16:56,636
and I do want to emphasize

1967
01:16:56,636 --> 01:17:00,836
that end it is only the flick

1968
01:17:03,876 --> 01:17:06,445
to all signage. Legal review

1969
01:17:06,445 --> 01:17:08,581
in the business impact

1970
01:17:08,581 --> 01:17:10,450
statement ordinance 2026 dash

1971
01:17:10,450 --> 01:17:12,585
22 which is a company in your

1972
01:17:12,585 --> 01:17:14,860
packet with all the has been

1973
01:17:14,860 --> 01:17:14,787
reviewed and approved by the

1974
01:17:14,787 --> 01:17:17,787
city attorney's office and is

1975
01:17:18,224 --> 01:17:20,593
legally correct asked to form

1976
01:17:20,593 --> 01:17:22,993
pursuant to florida statute

1977
01:17:24,363 --> 01:17:26,131
section 1, 6, 6.0 4 one

1978
01:17:26,131 --> 01:17:27,100
foresee a business impact

1979
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:27,800
statement was not required

1980
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,200
because ordinance is enacted

1981
01:17:32,504 --> 01:17:32,972
to implement the comprehensive

1982
01:17:32,972 --> 01:17:33,639
plan amendment.

1983
01:17:33,639 --> 01:17:35,841
>> in the land development

1984
01:17:35,841 --> 01:17:36,543
regulations initiated by

1985
01:17:36,543 --> 01:17:39,543
applicant I private party at

1986
01:17:41,381 --> 01:17:43,381
holiday. Statutory compliance

1987
01:17:46,419 --> 01:17:46,819
in concurrence uldc

1988
01:17:46,819 --> 01:17:47,586
amendments.

1989
01:17:47,586 --> 01:17:48,254
>> so the current uldc if

1990
01:17:48,254 --> 01:17:50,654
you're doing master concept

1991
01:17:53,580 --> 01:17:53,693
plan.

1992
01:17:53,693 --> 01:17:55,161
>> it is it is there's a

1993
01:17:55,161 --> 01:17:56,862
little bit of a difference in

1994
01:17:56,862 --> 01:17:57,497
how process that's process by

1995
01:17:57,497 --> 01:17:59,897
resolution it also comes

1996
01:18:00,966 --> 01:18:02,468
before the commission. However

1997
01:18:02,468 --> 01:18:03,837
we do not have an

1998
01:18:03,837 --> 01:18:05,504
administrative a mechanism for

1999
01:18:05,504 --> 01:18:07,207
this because it was the

2000
01:18:07,207 --> 01:18:07,941
pattern plan adopted by

2001
01:18:07,941 --> 01:18:10,941
ordinance so we're amending it

2002
01:18:12,211 --> 01:18:12,945
as a master concept plan

2003
01:18:12,945 --> 01:18:14,945
amendment. However, ordinances

2004
01:18:15,147 --> 01:18:17,147
or resolutions cannot

2005
01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:18,951
ordinance so the original

2006
01:18:18,951 --> 01:18:19,719
approval in subsequent

2007
01:18:19,719 --> 01:18:20,419
approvals were by ordinance

2008
01:18:20,419 --> 01:18:23,419
that's why this is presented

2009
01:18:23,556 --> 01:18:24,290
to commission by ordinance. In

2010
01:18:24,290 --> 01:18:27,827
addition to the ordinance is a

2011
01:18:27,827 --> 01:18:30,396
dual purpose vehicle, not only

2012
01:18:30,396 --> 01:18:30,997
does it and then the pattern

2013
01:18:30,997 --> 01:18:31,898
plan it also amends the

2014
01:18:31,898 --> 01:18:34,298
unified land development code

2015
01:18:34,367 --> 01:18:36,767
section to incorporate by

2016
01:18:38,238 --> 01:18:38,838
reference this pattern plan.

2017
01:18:38,838 --> 01:18:40,838
Noticing public notice

2018
01:18:42,241 --> 01:18:44,443
requirements were met they

2019
01:18:44,443 --> 01:18:47,443
have to follow the florida

2020
01:18:48,414 --> 01:18:50,414
statutes section 1, 6, 6.0 4,

2021
01:18:51,217 --> 01:18:51,884
1, 3 and section 7.0 1 c

2022
01:18:51,884 --> 01:18:54,884
of north port city charter

2023
01:18:55,988 --> 01:18:57,890
needing ordinances highest.

2024
01:18:57,890 --> 01:18:59,325
>> 10 days prior to adoption

2025
01:18:59,325 --> 01:19:01,628
and also notices were mailed

2026
01:19:01,628 --> 01:19:02,595
to the owner the property

2027
01:19:02,595 --> 01:19:04,995
owners within the 1320 feet

2028
01:19:09,235 --> 01:19:09,969
buffer radius as required.

2029
01:19:09,969 --> 01:19:11,137
This item was presented before

2030
01:19:11,137 --> 01:19:13,537
the planning and zoning

2031
01:19:16,750 --> 01:19:16,742
advisory board 7/16/2020

2032
01:19:16,742 --> 01:19:19,142
cents. The board voted 5, 0

2033
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,148
unanimously to approve these

2034
01:19:22,148 --> 01:19:23,149
amendments. So staff based on

2035
01:19:23,149 --> 01:19:26,149
the information provided is on

2036
01:19:27,887 --> 01:19:28,754
asking the commission to

2037
01:19:28,754 --> 01:19:31,754
consider and moving the item

2038
01:19:34,827 --> 01:19:37,827
to second meeting, thank you.

2039
01:19:40,567 --> 01:19:42,567
>> thank rebuttal applicant.

2040
01:19:46,272 --> 01:19:46,839
There's no staff.

2041
01:19:46,839 --> 01:19:49,239
>> thank staff has no

2042
01:19:49,375 --> 01:19:52,375
rebuttal, thank you thank you.

2043
01:19:53,513 --> 01:19:54,113
>> city public that.

2044
01:19:54,113 --> 01:19:56,113
>> commission questions

2045
01:19:58,180 --> 01:19:58,651
discussions

2046
01:19:58,651 --> 01:20:00,651
>> commissioner thank you

2047
01:20:02,922 --> 01:20:04,922
mayor.

2048
01:20:07,927 --> 01:20:09,929
>> and this is just 2. Oh I

2049
01:20:09,929 --> 01:20:11,964
think or signage matches and

2050
01:20:11,964 --> 01:20:15,564
par with the rest of are

2051
01:20:17,436 --> 01:20:21,360
citing or c. Well I questions

2052
01:20:22,775 --> 01:20:26,375
causes. One of the last ones

2053
01:20:26,513 --> 01:20:30,113
to preserve them. So that you

2054
01:20:30,516 --> 01:20:34,116
only see you met in 2. 2 of

2055
01:20:34,421 --> 01:20:35,155
are we addressing that.

2056
01:20:35,155 --> 01:20:39,355
>> so how that was stated in a

2057
01:20:39,759 --> 01:20:40,326
perhaps again explain it so

2058
01:20:40,326 --> 01:20:41,561
our old unified land

2059
01:20:41,561 --> 01:20:42,295
development code when the

2060
01:20:42,295 --> 01:20:45,895
pattern plans were not to have

2061
01:20:46,465 --> 01:20:47,567
specific outline for the

2062
01:20:47,567 --> 01:20:49,702
pattern plan. We do not have

2063
01:20:49,702 --> 01:20:50,336
new plans and a unified land

2064
01:20:50,336 --> 01:20:52,736
development code any new

2065
01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:56,390
village district is created by

2066
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:58,945
a master concept plan. It's

2067
01:20:58,945 --> 01:21:00,914
the same premises but tricky

2068
01:21:00,914 --> 01:21:01,914
part that we had with this is

2069
01:21:01,914 --> 01:21:04,314
because it's adopted by

2070
01:21:04,750 --> 01:21:06,686
ordinance we have to follow

2071
01:21:06,686 --> 01:21:08,803
the ordinance and at least the

2072
01:21:08,803 --> 01:21:08,942
noticing requirements does

2073
01:21:08,942 --> 01:21:11,257
that answer your question I

2074
01:21:11,257 --> 01:21:13,257
hope.

2075
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:17,897
>> well I'm getting at is.

2076
01:21:17,897 --> 01:21:21,167
>> so we've into this in the

2077
01:21:21,167 --> 01:21:24,136
future we have plans amend our

2078
01:21:24,136 --> 01:21:25,205
uldc it wouldn't be necessary

2079
01:21:25,205 --> 01:21:27,400
to do so so the what I mean

2080
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,174
that the unified land

2081
01:21:28,174 --> 01:21:29,943
development code does not have

2082
01:21:29,943 --> 01:21:30,743
the mechanism it doesn't have

2083
01:21:30,743 --> 01:21:33,743
mechanism that the old uldc

2084
01:21:34,781 --> 01:21:36,649
had to amend plans. So what we

2085
01:21:36,649 --> 01:21:39,652
are doing is we're calling him

2086
01:21:39,652 --> 01:21:40,854
master concept plan, it's the

2087
01:21:40,854 --> 01:21:44,454
same and it's the approval is

2088
01:21:45,558 --> 01:21:47,627
following the same as it was.

2089
01:21:47,627 --> 01:21:48,361
>> so in the future when get a

2090
01:21:48,361 --> 01:21:51,431
new village you would not have

2091
01:21:51,431 --> 01:21:52,699
the pattern plan.

2092
01:21:52,699 --> 01:21:54,600
>> she would not be creating a

2093
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,402
pattern plan like you had

2094
01:21:56,402 --> 01:21:57,690
field coach. It would be a

2095
01:21:57,690 --> 01:22:00,690
master concept plan and it

2096
01:22:00,506 --> 01:22:03,276
would be called village and it

2097
01:22:03,276 --> 01:22:04,100
would follow that process by

2098
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:07,100
resolution okay. Thank you for

2099
01:22:07,914 --> 01:22:08,547
them, the other

2100
01:22:08,547 --> 01:22:11,547
>> on slide state of the

2101
01:22:12,718 --> 01:22:15,118
senate bill. This establishes

2102
01:22:15,354 --> 01:22:17,354
non-compliance us. Signage

2103
01:22:21,427 --> 01:22:24,427
that. Was there before the

2104
01:22:28,468 --> 01:22:30,360
stewardess went into effect.

2105
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:30,670
>> so mean what's the not

2106
01:22:30,670 --> 01:22:33,670
apply school site will be

2107
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:34,707
changed to meet the cold so.

2108
01:22:34,707 --> 01:22:37,707
>> the provision that we put

2109
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:39,679
in to have that standards for

2110
01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:40,379
compliance. If they didn't

2111
01:22:40,379 --> 01:22:43,379
have a permit application and

2112
01:22:43,617 --> 01:22:47,217
house at time when this was

2113
01:22:47,420 --> 01:22:48,540
adopted it would still be

2114
01:22:48,540 --> 01:22:49,956
deemed compliant. So the

2115
01:22:49,956 --> 01:22:51,956
provision would be

2116
01:22:54,994 --> 01:22:55,962
>> and also for the legal

2117
01:22:55,962 --> 01:22:57,962
nonconforming status. We

2118
01:22:58,300 --> 01:22:59,165
wanted to incorporate also any

2119
01:22:59,165 --> 01:23:02,165
signs that are not legally

2120
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:04,737
compliant not conforming after

2121
01:23:04,737 --> 01:23:05,404
the day then they would have

2122
01:23:05,404 --> 01:23:06,807
to follow the provisions of

2123
01:23:06,807 --> 01:23:07,807
the unified land development

2124
01:23:07,807 --> 01:23:10,807
code for non conformance we

2125
01:23:11,645 --> 01:23:13,546
wanted to put that in there

2126
01:23:13,546 --> 01:23:15,682
because we did not want to

2127
01:23:15,682 --> 01:23:18,385
have signs that are already

2128
01:23:18,385 --> 01:23:19,452
through the process bd

2129
01:23:19,452 --> 01:23:21,521
noncompliance then they would

2130
01:23:21,521 --> 01:23:22,489
have to as you said bring it

2131
01:23:22,489 --> 01:23:23,156
in to conformance and that's

2132
01:23:23,156 --> 01:23:25,910
what that provision is not

2133
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:27,910
would be included.

2134
01:23:31,731 --> 01:23:34,340
>> thank you very well, so

2135
01:23:34,340 --> 01:23:35,268
>> thank you vice MISTER Mayor

2136
01:23:35,268 --> 01:23:38,868
I have a quick question from

2137
01:23:39,438 --> 01:23:42,438
missile so so that I

2138
01:23:45,845 --> 01:23:47,845
understand sarasota memorial

2139
01:23:51,518 --> 01:23:54,187
hospital. At while in park

2140
01:23:54,187 --> 01:23:55,870
will operate under the same

2141
01:23:55,870 --> 01:23:57,870
sign sarasota memorial

2142
01:23:59,159 --> 01:23:59,826
hospital on sumpter and that

2143
01:23:59,826 --> 01:24:03,426
will be a specified in our

2144
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:05,198
uldc is that correct.

2145
01:24:05,198 --> 01:24:05,865
>> so the sarasota memorial

2146
01:24:05,865 --> 01:24:08,865
hospital is not related to

2147
01:24:09,102 --> 01:24:11,471
village g it's actually we can

2148
01:24:11,471 --> 01:24:12,720
discuss it with the village e

2149
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,720
that's incorporated the

2150
01:24:15,541 --> 01:24:17,541
sarasota memorial hospital

2151
01:24:17,743 --> 01:24:19,479
pace. So those regulations in

2152
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,213
their for their signs for

2153
01:24:20,213 --> 01:24:23,213
institutional are in there. So

2154
01:24:25,351 --> 01:24:27,554
the sarasota memorial hospital

2155
01:24:27,554 --> 01:24:29,322
on a sumpter they went through

2156
01:24:29,322 --> 01:24:30,590
development master plan

2157
01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:31,758
process here with the

2158
01:24:31,758 --> 01:24:32,358
commission and part of that

2159
01:24:32,358 --> 01:24:34,358
the commission approved

2160
01:24:35,695 --> 01:24:37,597
waivers for their signage

2161
01:24:37,597 --> 01:24:38,865
because it is an institutional

2162
01:24:38,865 --> 01:24:40,800
use to be did not have

2163
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:41,734
anything in our uldc at that

2164
01:24:41,734 --> 01:24:45,271
time so that will be their

2165
01:24:45,271 --> 01:24:46,506
governing document, okay.

2166
01:24:46,506 --> 01:24:47,340
>> and then what is

2167
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:50,340
implication for hca when they

2168
01:24:51,778 --> 01:24:52,512
build their hospital.

2169
01:24:52,512 --> 01:24:56,216
>> so with this if age to able

2170
01:24:56,216 --> 01:24:58,785
to adhere with the signage

2171
01:24:58,785 --> 01:25:02,385
following the uldc we have the

2172
01:25:02,989 --> 01:25:05,925
for that it would be included.

2173
01:25:05,925 --> 01:25:08,925
There are more signage allowed

2174
01:25:09,596 --> 01:25:10,296
also if it's defined as an

2175
01:25:10,296 --> 01:25:11,865
institutional use government

2176
01:25:11,865 --> 01:25:13,833
I'm not sure what that

2177
01:25:13,833 --> 01:25:15,350
designation would they're

2178
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:15,735
exempt from the signage so I

2179
01:25:15,735 --> 01:25:18,338
can't evaluate at that time I

2180
01:25:18,338 --> 01:25:21,338
know that following what their

2181
01:25:22,900 --> 01:25:25,609
uldc the new current does have

2182
01:25:25,778 --> 01:25:26,446
more on mount signage allowed.

2183
01:25:26,446 --> 01:25:29,446
>> and what the okay, thank

2184
01:25:32,885 --> 01:25:34,885
you're very welcome.

2185
01:25:35,989 --> 01:25:37,900
>> yes it thank you all

2186
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:38,992
commissioner stowers very

2187
01:25:38,992 --> 01:25:41,270
briefly basically the idea was

2188
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:44,270
to create a compatibility so

2189
01:25:46,132 --> 01:25:47,267
that west that's age hca built

2190
01:25:47,267 --> 01:25:47,867
little ys in this village

2191
01:25:47,867 --> 01:25:48,569
bayside is needs to be

2192
01:25:48,569 --> 01:25:51,569
consistent that's the whole I

2193
01:25:54,574 --> 01:25:58,174
it. Pretty much. It says yes.

2194
01:25:58,812 --> 01:26:00,380
But it is.

2195
01:26:00,380 --> 01:26:01,140
>> sure you just explain that

2196
01:26:01,140 --> 01:26:03,414
does not preclude either

2197
01:26:05,651 --> 01:26:08,651
estimation village age will of

2198
01:26:09,589 --> 01:26:11,124
h and built up that are coming

2199
01:26:11,124 --> 01:26:13,193
in asking for a way fix but

2200
01:26:13,193 --> 01:26:16,793
right now we've now set the

2201
01:26:19,532 --> 01:26:21,932
ground. The baseline same

2202
01:26:22,669 --> 01:26:24,669
>> all

2203
01:26:28,410 --> 01:26:30,376
>> okay go thank you. MISTER

2204
01:26:30,376 --> 01:26:31,770
Brzezinski remember when we

2205
01:26:31,770 --> 01:26:34,677
just asked this issue quite a

2206
01:26:38,418 --> 01:26:39,253
while. There was a

2207
01:26:39,253 --> 01:26:41,653
disagreement between. The dpp

2208
01:26:43,490 --> 01:26:45,240
and sarasota memorial. At

2209
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,424
wellen park regarding their

2210
01:26:48,962 --> 01:26:49,629
signs. At the direction of the

2211
01:26:49,629 --> 01:26:52,629
commission at that point in

2212
01:26:56,202 --> 01:26:58,338
time. Was to request that w

2213
01:26:58,338 --> 01:27:00,239
damien dpp in sarasota

2214
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:03,760
memorial with the help of

2215
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,760
staff. Reconcile their

2216
01:27:07,547 --> 01:27:08,248
differences regarding signage.

2217
01:27:08,248 --> 01:27:10,648
Am I understanding correctly

2218
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:13,754
that these changes. Address

2219
01:27:13,754 --> 01:27:17,570
that to spew are is there work

2220
01:27:17,570 --> 01:27:18,910
to be

2221
01:27:18,910 --> 01:27:20,600
>> no there's no more work to

2222
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:20,693
be that was all team, a lift

2223
01:27:20,693 --> 01:27:23,693
more than signage if you

2224
01:27:27,534 --> 01:27:30,534
remember. 8, 1, to be part of

2225
01:27:31,710 --> 01:27:34,274
the you know village evp. But

2226
01:27:34,274 --> 01:27:37,874
they did not want to. Maker

2227
01:27:39,112 --> 01:27:39,813
the architecture standards

2228
01:27:39,813 --> 01:27:42,415
more proven well in part said

2229
01:27:42,415 --> 01:27:46,615
no we're not going to do what

2230
01:27:47,921 --> 01:27:48,621
we we agree. Memorial was

2231
01:27:48,621 --> 01:27:51,621
without some since series of

2232
01:27:52,259 --> 01:27:53,126
design guidelines. Is that you

2233
01:27:53,126 --> 01:27:53,860
know we basically said if you

2234
01:27:53,860 --> 01:27:56,860
build this the venice hospital

2235
01:27:57,300 --> 01:27:59,599
we would approve it right but

2236
01:27:59,599 --> 01:28:00,834
they're like we don't know

2237
01:28:00,834 --> 01:28:02,802
what technological changes are

2238
01:28:02,802 --> 01:28:03,804
going to occur that affect the

2239
01:28:03,804 --> 01:28:04,538
look of the so we built some

2240
01:28:04,538 --> 01:28:07,538
design guidelines that we both

2241
01:28:08,410 --> 01:28:12,241
can live with. As you know we

2242
01:28:12,745 --> 01:28:15,140
take a look landscaping very

2243
01:28:15,140 --> 01:28:16,482
seriously but we worked that

2244
01:28:16,482 --> 01:28:17,184
out prior to securing approval

2245
01:28:17,184 --> 01:28:19,787
for that peace will roughly 2

2246
01:28:19,787 --> 01:28:21,787
years ago.

2247
01:28:25,250 --> 01:28:25,425
>> ok thank yelled. Closing

2248
01:28:25,425 --> 01:28:27,425
arguments.

2249
01:28:34,340 --> 01:28:35,302
>> staff.

2250
01:28:35,302 --> 01:28:37,702
>> staff is requesting that

2251
01:28:37,904 --> 01:28:38,538
the commission approved the

2252
01:28:38,538 --> 01:28:40,807
ordinance has were second

2253
01:28:40,807 --> 01:28:41,441
creating based on the

2254
01:28:41,441 --> 01:28:43,841
information and the facts

2255
01:28:43,977 --> 01:28:46,377
provided before thank you.

2256
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:53,786
>> applicant come. Request

2257
01:28:53,786 --> 01:28:54,487
approval because the school

2258
01:28:54,487 --> 01:28:58,870
basically cleans up a lot of

2259
01:28:58,224 --> 01:28:58,892
things and makes consistent.

2260
01:28:58,892 --> 01:29:01,892
Set rules for everybody to

2261
01:29:04,230 --> 01:29:04,898
fall.

2262
01:29:04,898 --> 01:29:07,298
>> close public hearing and

2263
01:29:10,270 --> 01:29:10,938
request a want to continue

2264
01:29:10,938 --> 01:29:12,938
ordinance 2026 dash 22 the

2265
01:29:16,276 --> 01:29:16,943
second reading of SEPTEMBER

2266
01:29:16,943 --> 01:29:18,746
22nd 2026. Have a motion on

2267
01:29:18,746 --> 01:29:19,446
the floor made by commissioner

2268
01:29:19,446 --> 01:29:21,846
stokes to continue ordinance

2269
01:29:22,150 --> 01:29:24,415
number 2026 dash 22 the second

2270
01:29:24,718 --> 01:29:27,118
reading on SEPTEMBER 22nd

2271
01:29:27,588 --> 01:29:28,255
2026. And that was seconded by

2272
01:29:28,255 --> 01:29:30,255
commissioner ball. There's

2273
01:29:31,258 --> 01:29:34,258
nothing to that please passes

2274
01:29:39,966 --> 01:29:41,100
5 to 0.

2275
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:41,802
>> moving now to ordinance 20

2276
01:29:41,802 --> 01:29:44,802
to 26 23. This is also apply

2277
01:29:46,306 --> 01:29:46,974
to digital. Karen and I

2278
01:29:46,974 --> 01:29:49,943
request a motion direct the

2279
01:29:49,943 --> 01:29:51,745
city the motion on the floor

2280
01:29:51,745 --> 01:29:54,810
are made by commissioner

2281
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:56,583
stokes don't have a seconded

2282
01:29:56,583 --> 01:29:58,983
by commissioner petro there's

2283
01:30:03,957 --> 01:30:06,860
nothing to that please vote.

2284
01:30:06,860 --> 01:30:09,620
Passes 5, 0 city clerk can

2285
01:30:09,620 --> 01:30:11,264
read by title please ordinance

2286
01:30:11,264 --> 01:30:12,299
number 2020 success, 23 an

2287
01:30:12,299 --> 01:30:15,299
ordinance of the city of

2288
01:30:17,204 --> 01:30:19,273
titian number of pnc pa dash

2289
01:30:19,273 --> 01:30:20,374
24 dashed.

2290
01:30:20,374 --> 01:30:21,775
>> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 3

2291
01:30:21,775 --> 01:30:22,442
formally the pa dash 24 dash

2292
01:30:22,442 --> 01:30:24,842
0, 8, 2, men in the village

2293
01:30:25,879 --> 01:30:26,846
even district pattern plan.

2294
01:30:26,846 --> 01:30:28,115
>> west villages ak well in

2295
01:30:28,115 --> 01:30:28,716
part to expand the district

2296
01:30:28,716 --> 01:30:30,716
county by incorporating

2297
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:33,987
approximately 81 acres of land

2298
01:30:33,987 --> 01:30:35,880
modifying development

2299
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:35,623
entitlements and update

2300
01:30:35,623 --> 01:30:37,623
signage and parking

2301
01:30:39,926 --> 01:30:40,828
regulations amending section

2302
01:30:40,828 --> 01:30:41,762
4003.1 of the unified land

2303
01:30:41,762 --> 01:30:42,395
development the amended

2304
01:30:42,395 --> 01:30:44,795
pattern plan by reference

2305
01:30:46,266 --> 01:30:47,434
amending section 3005.2 of the

2306
01:30:47,434 --> 01:30:48,101
uldc to require village east

2307
01:30:48,101 --> 01:30:51,101
signage to comply with the

2308
01:30:51,572 --> 01:30:52,840
uldc chapter 5 standards

2309
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,474
provide deemed compliance and

2310
01:30:54,474 --> 01:30:55,743
legal non-conforming status

2311
01:30:55,743 --> 01:30:56,844
for certain existing signs

2312
01:30:56,844 --> 01:30:57,544
providing for findings

2313
01:30:57,544 --> 01:30:59,544
adoption complex severability

2314
01:31:00,847 --> 01:31:02,716
codification and affected date

2315
01:31:02,716 --> 01:31:03,383
there have been no green party

2316
01:31:03,383 --> 01:31:04,500
requests received I can

2317
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:04,751
everyone wishing to provide

2318
01:31:04,751 --> 01:31:07,151
testimony please stand raise

2319
01:31:10,324 --> 01:31:10,958
your right hand. Just that the

2320
01:31:10,958 --> 01:31:11,658
testimony you're about to

2321
01:31:11,658 --> 01:31:12,326
provide us to an accurate to

2322
01:31:12,326 --> 01:31:15,326
the best your knowledge to

2323
01:31:21,168 --> 01:31:21,768
help you thank you.

2324
01:31:21,768 --> 01:31:22,970
>> parte communications

2325
01:31:22,970 --> 01:31:24,970
commissioner, the

2326
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:33,110
>> for. Commissioner have

2327
01:31:35,916 --> 01:31:36,517
trouble not accept the and

2328
01:31:36,517 --> 01:31:37,217
just everything when we

2329
01:31:37,217 --> 01:31:40,217
discussed vice mayor and then

2330
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:48,995
for me for me. Presentation

2331
01:31:48,995 --> 01:31:49,729
applicant john was key senior

2332
01:31:49,729 --> 01:31:51,898
vice PRESIDENT And I have been

2333
01:31:51,898 --> 01:31:53,898
sworn.

2334
01:32:00,173 --> 01:32:01,800
>> the p the amendment. To

2335
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,800
basically the nexus of this

2336
01:32:04,211 --> 01:32:04,912
was to adding 60 acres across

2337
01:32:04,912 --> 01:32:09,112
clay moore from the koch at a

2338
01:32:09,182 --> 01:32:12,782
park. Maybe we call can I

2339
01:32:12,853 --> 01:32:13,520
think it was 2017. So there's

2340
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,920
a school district purchased

2341
01:32:16,123 --> 01:32:19,723
this property from for the k

2342
01:32:21,728 --> 01:32:23,530
through 8 facility. Shortly

2343
01:32:23,530 --> 01:32:24,164
thereafter. The atlanta braves

2344
01:32:24,164 --> 01:32:26,933
decided located and put a

2345
01:32:26,933 --> 01:32:29,333
stadium across the street.

2346
01:32:29,603 --> 01:32:32,105
2019 when I got here working

2347
01:32:32,105 --> 01:32:33,400
with the school district did

2348
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,342
determine probably not the

2349
01:32:35,342 --> 01:32:35,942
best location for k through 8.

2350
01:32:35,942 --> 01:32:38,342
School across from the

2351
01:32:40,914 --> 01:32:41,481
stadium. That's what led to

2352
01:32:41,481 --> 01:32:42,949
the school district's

2353
01:32:42,949 --> 01:32:45,349
acquisition of a 130 acres

2354
01:32:48,210 --> 01:32:49,560
from our entities for what the

2355
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,691
new high school and they have

2356
01:32:50,691 --> 01:32:52,493
room and 130 acre parcel for

2357
01:32:52,493 --> 01:32:53,860
future k through as part of

2358
01:32:53,860 --> 01:32:56,163
the transaction. We re

2359
01:32:56,163 --> 01:32:59,163
purchase at the market rate,

2360
01:33:00,801 --> 01:33:03,201
60 acres from schools. It

2361
01:33:03,937 --> 01:33:05,805
would be intent was always put

2362
01:33:05,805 --> 01:33:07,174
it back into one of our the

2363
01:33:07,174 --> 01:33:07,841
dpp's it seemed to make the

2364
01:33:07,841 --> 01:33:10,477
most sense to included with

2365
01:33:10,477 --> 01:33:12,877
village ev which continuous

2366
01:33:13,714 --> 01:33:15,348
with that parcel. We actually

2367
01:33:15,348 --> 01:33:17,748
started this process actually

2368
01:33:22,156 --> 01:33:23,357
before h. Came so this is kind

2369
01:33:23,357 --> 01:33:23,991
of going through a life cycle

2370
01:33:23,991 --> 01:33:25,826
that's own adjusting and

2371
01:33:25,826 --> 01:33:26,393
adapting to. The market

2372
01:33:26,393 --> 01:33:28,393
conditions and what's

2373
01:33:31,632 --> 01:33:32,366
occurred. So as there's only 2

2374
01:33:32,366 --> 01:33:35,366
properties in village even are

2375
01:33:37,571 --> 01:33:38,239
not at all. It is age partial

2376
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:40,374
and we have a 9 acre parcel

2377
01:33:40,374 --> 01:33:42,909
along river road. It will be

2378
01:33:42,909 --> 01:33:43,944
north the plate gets north to

2379
01:33:43,944 --> 01:33:45,312
play more. When play more gets

2380
01:33:45,312 --> 01:33:48,312
expanded our extended here in

2381
01:33:48,482 --> 01:33:49,150
the next 6 to 9 months and

2382
01:33:49,150 --> 01:33:52,150
that piece we already have

2383
01:33:54,221 --> 01:33:56,323
sold for commercial use. What

2384
01:33:56,323 --> 01:33:59,923
we amend led the 60 acres into

2385
01:34:00,261 --> 01:34:02,196
the village so with that again

2386
01:34:02,196 --> 01:34:05,796
I'm going to turn over whiskey

2387
01:34:07,301 --> 01:34:09,136
stand who get hearing of the

2388
01:34:09,136 --> 01:34:09,803
water people appeal to prepare

2389
01:34:09,803 --> 01:34:10,471
this document to updated to

2390
01:34:10,471 --> 01:34:11,138
meet with you all the state

2391
01:34:11,138 --> 01:34:13,538
standards that have. Coming

2392
01:34:15,609 --> 01:34:18,609
up. Existence since we started

2393
01:34:21,282 --> 01:34:23,450
the process outlet for explain

2394
01:34:23,450 --> 01:34:24,118
>> thank before she gets

2395
01:34:24,118 --> 01:34:24,751
started commissioner stokes

2396
01:34:24,751 --> 01:34:28,351
did you have any ex parte

2397
01:34:39,854 --> 01:34:40,822
communications thank go ahead.

2398
01:34:40,822 --> 01:34:41,556
>> good morning again hannah

2399
01:34:41,556 --> 01:34:45,156
smolinski I'm up on stand tech

2400
01:34:45,392 --> 01:34:46,940
and I have been sworn. I'm

2401
01:34:46,940 --> 01:34:46,728
here to present the amendment

2402
01:34:46,728 --> 01:34:49,728
to the village g village

2403
01:34:51,132 --> 01:34:51,700
district pattern plan. Is a

2404
01:34:51,700 --> 01:34:52,400
one part application

2405
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,400
consisting of a pattern plan

2406
01:34:56,704 --> 01:34:58,440
amendment. She is located

2407
01:34:58,440 --> 01:34:59,140
within rahm heart and the

2408
01:34:59,140 --> 01:34:59,807
southeast quadrant of camille

2409
01:34:59,807 --> 01:35:02,807
and trail and west villages

2410
01:35:04,812 --> 01:35:06,781
parkway. It was originally

2411
01:35:06,781 --> 01:35:09,751
adopted in JULY of 2019 and

2412
01:35:09,751 --> 01:35:12,151
has 101 time since adoption.

2413
01:35:12,453 --> 01:35:15,423
It was amended in AUGUST of

2414
01:35:15,423 --> 01:35:16,458
2024 to incorporate the 20

2415
01:35:16,458 --> 01:35:17,625
acre sarasota memorial

2416
01:35:17,625 --> 01:35:18,926
hospital parcel into village

2417
01:35:18,926 --> 01:35:19,593
yvonne tree and establish site

2418
01:35:19,593 --> 01:35:21,593
development regulations for

2419
01:35:24,733 --> 01:35:26,134
the hospital site. The purpose

2420
01:35:26,134 --> 01:35:26,868
dpp amendment is to add

2421
01:35:26,868 --> 01:35:29,268
approximately 60 acres of land

2422
01:35:30,338 --> 01:35:31,380
to village g and land use as

2423
01:35:31,380 --> 01:35:34,380
update language to reflect it

2424
01:35:34,275 --> 01:35:34,909
was in conditions and update

2425
01:35:34,909 --> 01:35:37,309
off 8 years and emotional

2426
01:35:39,247 --> 01:35:39,880
criteria for this slide shows

2427
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:40,581
the existing and proposed

2428
01:35:40,581 --> 01:35:43,581
boundaries of the village e.

2429
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,488
Proposing to expand from 334

2430
01:35:50,925 --> 01:35:51,592
cases to 415 acres. I'm not 60

2431
01:35:51,592 --> 01:35:54,592
acres is located right here

2432
01:35:55,162 --> 01:35:57,131
with the red circle and also

2433
01:35:57,131 --> 01:35:57,632
due to the realignment play

2434
01:35:57,632 --> 01:35:58,232
more rober adding

2435
01:35:58,232 --> 01:35:58,599
approximately 21 acres

2436
01:35:58,599 --> 01:36:00,599
stability

2437
01:36:01,402 --> 01:36:05,602
as well. For a grand total of

2438
01:36:08,900 --> 01:36:09,611
415 acres. We're also amending

2439
01:36:09,611 --> 01:36:10,477
land use we are decreasing the

2440
01:36:10,477 --> 01:36:12,877
overall residential units from

2441
01:36:15,183 --> 01:36:16,351
1000 units of 900 and we're

2442
01:36:16,351 --> 01:36:18,253
increasing nonresidential

2443
01:36:18,253 --> 01:36:20,253
square feet from 400,000

2444
01:36:21,489 --> 01:36:22,724
square feet to 550,000 square

2445
01:36:22,724 --> 01:36:25,559
feet. And this is for village

2446
01:36:25,559 --> 01:36:28,196
e as a whole the 60 acre

2447
01:36:28,196 --> 01:36:28,896
parcel. Its plan for mixed use

2448
01:36:28,896 --> 01:36:30,896
development with multifamily

2449
01:36:33,234 --> 01:36:35,634
and nonresidential uses. We

2450
01:36:36,237 --> 01:36:38,807
are proposing a revision to

2451
01:36:38,807 --> 01:36:39,474
section 9003.4 non-residential

2452
01:36:39,474 --> 01:36:41,409
signage to be reviewed for

2453
01:36:41,409 --> 01:36:43,809
compliance with chapter 5 of

2454
01:36:45,413 --> 01:36:46,481
the uldc very similar to the

2455
01:36:46,481 --> 01:36:48,316
previous amendment for

2456
01:36:48,316 --> 01:36:50,316
non-residential parking they

2457
01:36:51,552 --> 01:36:52,253
must comply with the uldc

2458
01:36:52,253 --> 01:36:52,987
article time almost otherwise

2459
01:36:52,987 --> 01:36:55,987
specified and the pattern plan

2460
01:36:56,724 --> 01:36:59,724
or the pattern some additional

2461
01:36:59,861 --> 01:37:00,995
minor amendments that we've

2462
01:37:00,995 --> 01:37:03,395
included. Include the 60 acre

2463
01:37:05,666 --> 01:37:07,602
former school parcel adding 21

2464
01:37:07,602 --> 01:37:08,503
acres from the realignment

2465
01:37:08,503 --> 01:37:09,437
clay morrow road and updating

2466
01:37:09,437 --> 01:37:10,710
outdated language throughout

2467
01:37:10,710 --> 01:37:13,710
the pattern plan based on

2468
01:37:13,908 --> 01:37:16,440
current conditions. There are

2469
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:16,711
benefits this amendment,

2470
01:37:16,711 --> 01:37:18,711
including simplifying staff

2471
01:37:19,213 --> 01:37:20,281
review for science and parking

2472
01:37:20,281 --> 01:37:22,281
standards provides additional

2473
01:37:23,951 --> 01:37:26,221
nonresidential uses part and

2474
01:37:26,221 --> 01:37:27,880
update outdated language with

2475
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:27,822
and the pattern plan that is

2476
01:37:27,822 --> 01:37:30,291
no longer put the ball as many

2477
01:37:30,291 --> 01:37:31,659
of the conditions have

2478
01:37:31,659 --> 01:37:32,326
changed. But that we kindly

2479
01:37:32,326 --> 01:37:32,993
request or we ask for your

2480
01:37:32,993 --> 01:37:35,393
personal. Thank you. Thank

2481
01:37:47,942 --> 01:37:49,942
you.

2482
01:37:55,683 --> 01:37:56,584
>> I he could put on the

2483
01:37:56,584 --> 01:37:57,252
screen please the morning

2484
01:37:57,252 --> 01:37:59,652
again commissioners for the

2485
01:37:59,854 --> 01:38:00,588
record sure we will let

2486
01:38:00,588 --> 01:38:02,588
brandon planner 3 planning

2487
01:38:05,427 --> 01:38:07,595
zoning division and I have

2488
01:38:07,595 --> 01:38:08,529
been sworn. Is the village g

2489
01:38:08,529 --> 01:38:09,730
village district pattern plan

2490
01:38:09,730 --> 01:38:12,130
amendment and titian number

2491
01:38:19,807 --> 01:38:20,942
can 24 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 3

2492
01:38:20,942 --> 01:38:23,942
on formally the pa dash 24

2493
01:38:25,746 --> 01:38:26,948
dash 0, 8, the ordinance 20's,

2494
01:38:26,948 --> 01:38:29,840
2623 and why the difference in

2495
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,753
the numbers is this was

2496
01:38:31,753 --> 01:38:32,720
submitted under our old now

2497
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:33,288
the line system under the old

2498
01:38:33,288 --> 01:38:35,688
you know unified land

2499
01:38:37,459 --> 01:38:37,992
development code in the

2500
01:38:37,992 --> 01:38:38,659
comprehensive plan.

2501
01:38:38,659 --> 01:38:39,294
>> so this was a transition

2502
01:38:39,294 --> 01:38:39,961
record in this is the new

2503
01:38:39,961 --> 01:38:42,961
record number in our solar

2504
01:38:46,334 --> 01:38:48,370
it's to provide clarification.

2505
01:38:48,370 --> 01:38:51,970
So the owner is the manasota

2506
01:38:53,108 --> 01:38:53,842
key p it is located at the

2507
01:38:53,842 --> 01:38:56,842
northeast corner of play more

2508
01:38:57,646 --> 01:38:58,780
road in west villages parkway

2509
01:38:58,780 --> 01:39:01,180
the property size is

2510
01:39:02,651 --> 01:39:04,651
approximately 415 acres

2511
01:39:05,587 --> 01:39:06,554
virtual village includes the

2512
01:39:06,554 --> 01:39:07,188
60 acre expansion area and the

2513
01:39:07,188 --> 01:39:09,588
21 acre planned more road

2514
01:39:12,394 --> 01:39:13,661
alignment. The boundary

2515
01:39:13,661 --> 01:39:14,529
expansion is to integrate

2516
01:39:14,529 --> 01:39:16,929
those 60 acres that were

2517
01:39:18,366 --> 01:39:19,768
formerly owned by the school

2518
01:39:19,768 --> 01:39:22,637
property into the site and the

2519
01:39:22,637 --> 01:39:25,637
21 acre roadway was the play

2520
01:39:25,707 --> 01:39:26,741
more realignment that approved

2521
01:39:26,741 --> 01:39:27,742
by an infrastructure plan

2522
01:39:27,742 --> 01:39:30,142
amendment for the alignment

2523
01:39:30,779 --> 01:39:32,380
it's just putting it in here

2524
01:39:32,380 --> 01:39:33,810
that way it showing on here

2525
01:39:33,810 --> 01:39:33,815
where that alignment is so we

2526
01:39:33,815 --> 01:39:36,815
have count for that additional

2527
01:39:38,619 --> 01:39:39,320
acreage. Also there's some

2528
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:40,588
entitlement adjustments. It's

2529
01:39:40,588 --> 01:39:41,389
been a modify land use

2530
01:39:41,389 --> 01:39:43,789
entitlements and amends the

2531
01:39:44,225 --> 01:39:47,225
uldc to reference the updated

2532
01:39:48,163 --> 01:39:48,897
plan in as you heard at the

2533
01:39:48,897 --> 01:39:51,990
previous item that we're going

2534
01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:53,100
have the established standards

2535
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:53,935
for the dean compliance in the

2536
01:39:53,935 --> 01:39:54,669
legal nonconforming status

2537
01:39:54,669 --> 01:39:58,269
prior to the effective date of

2538
01:40:03,411 --> 01:40:05,347
the since its annexation in

2539
01:40:05,347 --> 01:40:05,947
2026 years ago. This pattern

2540
01:40:05,947 --> 01:40:08,347
plan has undergone the

2541
01:40:11,552 --> 01:40:13,952
following regulations so. In

2542
01:40:13,989 --> 01:40:14,622
2019 ordinance 2019 25 and

2543
01:40:14,622 --> 01:40:16,157
established the original

2544
01:40:16,157 --> 01:40:16,825
village district pattern plan

2545
01:40:16,825 --> 01:40:21,960
for e as you can see on the

2546
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:23,197
side of the screen. Here is

2547
01:40:23,197 --> 01:40:25,867
the area up in the blue at the

2548
01:40:25,867 --> 01:40:26,601
top it's the sarasota memorial

2549
01:40:26,601 --> 01:40:27,302
hospital case that was brought

2550
01:40:27,302 --> 01:40:30,302
before this commission to add

2551
01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:33,708
to the boundary in 2024. The

2552
01:40:33,708 --> 01:40:36,108
keystone below and you 5

2553
01:40:37,946 --> 01:40:40,946
stands for mixed use area 5.

2554
01:40:41,490 --> 01:40:41,750
This is where the school

2555
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:44,750
property was located so that

2556
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:49,924
is incorporated into that. So

2557
01:40:49,924 --> 01:40:50,759
yes really it's not really

2558
01:40:50,759 --> 01:40:53,159
adding an additional 81 acres

2559
01:40:53,728 --> 01:40:56,128
from somewhere it's really

2560
01:40:56,664 --> 01:40:57,765
just. Shifting everything that

2561
01:40:57,765 --> 01:40:58,466
was the school property here

2562
01:40:58,466 --> 01:41:01,703
so I just wanted to make sure

2563
01:41:01,703 --> 01:41:03,705
that that was this was

2564
01:41:03,705 --> 01:41:05,740
submitted MAY 10th 2024. So

2565
01:41:05,740 --> 01:41:08,142
this is covered this amendment

2566
01:41:08,142 --> 01:41:11,142
is governed by the 2022 uldc

2567
01:41:11,379 --> 01:41:13,379
and the 2020 17 comprehensive

2568
01:41:13,515 --> 01:41:14,115
plan. I just want stay here

2569
01:41:14,115 --> 01:41:16,115
that there's voluntary

2570
01:41:16,518 --> 01:41:18,720
compliance, the applicant for

2571
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,354
the 20, 24 unified land

2572
01:41:20,354 --> 01:41:20,956
development code updates,

2573
01:41:20,956 --> 01:41:23,956
which is likable to the

2574
01:41:23,992 --> 01:41:26,940
signage in the parking

2575
01:41:26,940 --> 01:41:28,964
regulations. So under the old

2576
01:41:28,964 --> 01:41:30,665
code commissioner duval said

2577
01:41:30,665 --> 01:41:31,632
with a new one there was a

2578
01:41:31,632 --> 01:41:33,735
specific provisions in the old

2579
01:41:33,735 --> 01:41:37,335
uldc to amend so we are

2580
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:39,839
following those standards. In

2581
01:41:44,612 --> 01:41:47,482
addition, net increase of a

2582
01:41:47,482 --> 01:41:48,160
150,000 non residential spaces

2583
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:48,683
balance by 100 unit

2584
01:41:48,683 --> 01:41:50,683
residential reduction. What

2585
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:54,389
does this mean the original

2586
01:41:54,389 --> 01:41:55,890
village district pattern plan

2587
01:41:55,890 --> 01:41:58,890
800 title mets for up to

2588
01:41:59,862 --> 01:42:01,862
400,000 square feet of

2589
01:42:02,970 --> 01:42:02,731
nonresidential and 1000

2590
01:42:02,731 --> 01:42:04,398
dwelling units this will

2591
01:42:04,398 --> 01:42:07,398
reduce the dwelling units to

2592
01:42:08,103 --> 01:42:10,103
900 and increase the

2593
01:42:11,940 --> 01:42:12,607
non-residential component by

2594
01:42:12,607 --> 01:42:14,760
150,000 square feet. It's a

2595
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,760
it's a small increments to

2596
01:42:17,612 --> 01:42:21,812
that because the was to go to

2597
01:42:21,983 --> 01:42:23,983
that 18% non-residential for

2598
01:42:24,186 --> 01:42:25,453
the city and I remember that

2599
01:42:25,453 --> 01:42:26,588
one of the commissioners had

2600
01:42:26,588 --> 01:42:29,190
asked for a previous item so

2601
01:42:29,190 --> 01:42:31,590
we're at currently about 16%.

2602
01:42:35,731 --> 01:42:37,765
In needing that 18% goal. In

2603
01:42:37,765 --> 01:42:38,934
addition, we included that

2604
01:42:38,934 --> 01:42:41,334
grandfather provision if you

2605
01:42:41,436 --> 01:42:42,537
will just for a simple

2606
01:42:42,537 --> 01:42:43,672
nomenclature for the team

2607
01:42:43,672 --> 01:42:44,406
compliance that legally

2608
01:42:44,406 --> 01:42:46,806
protect all current permitting

2609
01:42:49,277 --> 01:42:51,379
or pending signage and some

2610
01:42:51,379 --> 01:42:53,348
document cleanups is to do the

2611
01:42:53,348 --> 01:42:55,516
updates to the village pattern

2612
01:42:55,516 --> 01:42:57,219
plan to show this new parcel

2613
01:42:57,219 --> 01:42:59,521
in the new configurations with

2614
01:42:59,521 --> 01:43:00,188
all of the components the

2615
01:43:00,188 --> 01:43:00,855
transportation et cetera in

2616
01:43:00,855 --> 01:43:03,855
the pattern plan that goes

2617
01:43:07,290 --> 01:43:07,795
into more detail. So the the

2618
01:43:07,795 --> 01:43:10,195
future land use map

2619
01:43:12,634 --> 01:43:14,436
designation is village that is

2620
01:43:14,436 --> 01:43:16,836
adopted zoning map designation

2621
01:43:17,506 --> 01:43:18,607
is village so all of the

2622
01:43:18,607 --> 01:43:20,607
surrounding areas, there's

2623
01:43:20,608 --> 01:43:23,177
vacant the play more districts

2624
01:43:23,177 --> 01:43:24,947
where the cool today park it

2625
01:43:24,947 --> 01:43:27,749
is the river road corridor to

2626
01:43:27,749 --> 01:43:28,517
the east and then the state

2627
01:43:28,517 --> 01:43:31,517
college. A florida just to

2628
01:43:33,210 --> 01:43:34,490
give you a point of reference.

2629
01:43:34,490 --> 01:43:35,123
In addition, this was a multi

2630
01:43:35,123 --> 01:43:37,523
department review of the

2631
01:43:38,590 --> 01:43:41,590
village a power plant. So

2632
01:43:41,195 --> 01:43:43,980
there was no objection or no

2633
01:43:43,980 --> 01:43:45,167
response now the only

2634
01:43:45,167 --> 01:43:46,935
condition that they have its

2635
01:43:46,935 --> 01:43:48,136
not applicable to this point

2636
01:43:48,136 --> 01:43:50,738
it will be a clickable at the

2637
01:43:50,738 --> 01:43:51,940
time of the actual site and

2638
01:43:51,940 --> 01:43:54,476
development plans. And it was

2639
01:43:54,476 --> 01:43:55,177
by our former stormwater

2640
01:43:55,177 --> 01:43:55,911
engineer elizabeth wong when

2641
01:43:55,911 --> 01:43:59,511
she was employed with the city

2642
01:43:59,615 --> 01:44:01,483
at the time. She was very

2643
01:44:01,483 --> 01:44:02,383
specific and she said this

2644
01:44:02,383 --> 01:44:04,783
amendment is acceptable as

2645
01:44:05,386 --> 01:44:07,322
long as the amount of revised

2646
01:44:07,322 --> 01:44:09,257
impervious areas, judy does

2647
01:44:09,257 --> 01:44:10,580
not exceed the maximum

2648
01:44:10,580 --> 01:44:12,458
allowable amount in the

2649
01:44:12,928 --> 01:44:14,620
previously approved storm

2650
01:44:14,620 --> 01:44:16,462
water analysis so compliance

2651
01:44:16,864 --> 01:44:18,766
with these conditions is

2652
01:44:18,766 --> 01:44:20,350
required at the time the site

2653
01:44:20,350 --> 01:44:21,970
development and infrastructure

2654
01:44:21,970 --> 01:44:23,138
so at that time the site and

2655
01:44:23,138 --> 01:44:25,138
development and infrastructure

2656
01:44:25,907 --> 01:44:27,108
I just want to make it the

2657
01:44:27,108 --> 01:44:29,111
public to kind of understand

2658
01:44:29,111 --> 01:44:31,946
that will have to be reviewed

2659
01:44:31,946 --> 01:44:32,981
any changes to that storm

2660
01:44:32,981 --> 01:44:34,950
water to ensure that any

2661
01:44:34,950 --> 01:44:35,551
impacts are directed at that

2662
01:44:35,551 --> 01:44:36,285
time the scope of this

2663
01:44:36,285 --> 01:44:39,285
amendment does not include any

2664
01:44:43,892 --> 01:44:44,793
impacts to storm water.

2665
01:44:44,793 --> 01:44:45,827
Consistency with a

2666
01:44:45,827 --> 01:44:47,763
comprehensive plan future land

2667
01:44:47,763 --> 01:44:48,463
use goal character and

2668
01:44:48,463 --> 01:44:52,630
location of land uses and as

2669
01:44:52,433 --> 01:44:55,237
well as the economic benefit,

2670
01:44:55,237 --> 01:44:56,171
that's very important that is

2671
01:44:56,171 --> 01:44:57,105
something staff reviews at at

2672
01:44:57,105 --> 01:45:00,105
the time that the application

2673
01:45:01,876 --> 01:45:03,879
as is when it's brought in.

2674
01:45:03,879 --> 01:45:05,880
Growth in community access. So

2675
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:07,916
the tax roll integration so

2676
01:45:07,916 --> 01:45:10,218
it's maximizing potential of

2677
01:45:10,218 --> 01:45:11,920
the 60 acre parcel acquired

2678
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:13,221
from the school board in 2021

2679
01:45:13,221 --> 01:45:16,221
when the school board owned

2680
01:45:16,925 --> 01:45:18,226
this property its exact from

2681
01:45:18,226 --> 01:45:19,661
any revenue generating they

2682
01:45:19,661 --> 01:45:20,262
are exempt from that suncor

2683
01:45:20,262 --> 01:45:22,231
parading this as a non

2684
01:45:22,231 --> 01:45:24,631
residential mixed use that

2685
01:45:26,368 --> 01:45:28,368
will generate additional.

2686
01:45:30,505 --> 01:45:32,407
Revenue also you also expand

2687
01:45:32,407 --> 01:45:33,141
community access to local

2688
01:45:33,141 --> 01:45:35,541
professional services, it's my

2689
01:45:36,311 --> 01:45:38,711
understanding they'll be some

2690
01:45:38,847 --> 01:45:39,548
retail. Medical incorporated

2691
01:45:39,548 --> 01:45:42,548
within component I don't have

2692
01:45:42,851 --> 01:45:45,851
any specifics at this point.

2693
01:45:49,725 --> 01:45:51,193
In addition it should help an

2694
01:45:51,193 --> 01:45:51,893
environment to attract those

2695
01:45:51,893 --> 01:45:54,293
industries within this little

2696
01:45:55,230 --> 01:45:57,990
pod this area and

2697
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:58,333
infrastructure optimization I

2698
01:45:58,333 --> 01:46:00,350
do want to make this is a key

2699
01:46:00,350 --> 01:46:01,102
component because staff always

2700
01:46:01,102 --> 01:46:02,937
evaluate what is going to be

2701
01:46:02,937 --> 01:46:04,390
the impact to our

2702
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:06,390
infrastructure water

2703
01:46:06,942 --> 01:46:09,440
wastewater cetera so is

2704
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:11,440
utilizing the existing

2705
01:46:11,140 --> 01:46:11,270
infrastructure capacity is not

2706
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:11,813
required city financing for

2707
01:46:11,813 --> 01:46:14,213
utility room any drainage

2708
01:46:20,488 --> 01:46:22,888
expansions. Future land use

2709
01:46:24,426 --> 01:46:27,663
goal one the character of has

2710
01:46:27,663 --> 01:46:28,730
touching upon the project a

2711
01:46:28,730 --> 01:46:30,498
school in economic impact so

2712
01:46:30,498 --> 01:46:32,601
the revenue is going to

2713
01:46:32,601 --> 01:46:33,735
increase from what the current

2714
01:46:33,735 --> 01:46:36,638
property tax revenue is based

2715
01:46:36,638 --> 01:46:37,639
on looking at county tax was

2716
01:46:37,639 --> 01:46:39,639
about when approximately

2717
01:46:43,412 --> 01:46:45,412
26,366. To potentially

2718
01:46:52,654 --> 01:46:53,955
$62,150. 135.7% yield. I also

2719
01:46:53,955 --> 01:46:56,258
included my sources and I cite

2720
01:46:56,258 --> 01:46:59,270
my sources where gotten this

2721
01:46:59,270 --> 01:47:01,296
information so the job

2722
01:47:01,296 --> 01:47:03,131
creation based on the numbers

2723
01:47:03,131 --> 01:47:05,100
that I have it it should

2724
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,100
generate a sustainable

2725
01:47:07,102 --> 01:47:09,102
workforce capacity estimated

2726
01:47:10,138 --> 01:47:11,139
at one job 300 to 500 square

2727
01:47:11,139 --> 01:47:12,407
feet now it's going to be

2728
01:47:12,407 --> 01:47:14,209
based on what that specific

2729
01:47:14,209 --> 01:47:14,909
use and I don't know the

2730
01:47:14,909 --> 01:47:18,279
specific use is at this time

2731
01:47:18,279 --> 01:47:20,282
this is very conservative in

2732
01:47:20,282 --> 01:47:20,949
nature I wanted to do with the

2733
01:47:20,949 --> 01:47:24,549
lower level just so we know

2734
01:47:25,387 --> 01:47:28,387
with the comparison. Where we

2735
01:47:31,827 --> 01:47:32,761
it should add about 16 point.

2736
01:47:32,761 --> 01:47:34,229
5 million in residential value

2737
01:47:34,229 --> 01:47:34,896
to fund public safety and

2738
01:47:34,896 --> 01:47:37,296
infrastructure no added tax

2739
01:47:40,135 --> 01:47:40,669
burden residents. Entitlement

2740
01:47:40,669 --> 01:47:41,370
rebalancing reduces

2741
01:47:41,370 --> 01:47:43,770
residential title from a 1000

2742
01:47:45,140 --> 01:47:45,841
to 900 units to minimize

2743
01:47:45,841 --> 01:47:48,241
long-term demand on municipal

2744
01:47:49,344 --> 01:47:51,744
residential services. So the

2745
01:47:52,147 --> 01:47:54,383
sources are also in very great

2746
01:47:54,383 --> 01:47:56,518
detail. I included within the

2747
01:47:56,518 --> 01:47:58,621
staff report with the sources

2748
01:47:58,621 --> 01:48:01,490
are so we had I looked at the

2749
01:48:01,490 --> 01:48:02,791
job projections calculated on

2750
01:48:02,791 --> 01:48:03,492
standard employment density

2751
01:48:03,492 --> 01:48:05,892
benchmarks recognized by the

2752
01:48:06,795 --> 01:48:09,698
urban land institute in the

2753
01:48:09,698 --> 01:48:10,398
U.S. Energy information

2754
01:48:10,398 --> 01:48:13,101
administration to us to make

2755
01:48:13,101 --> 01:48:15,501
the capacity based on

2756
01:48:15,637 --> 01:48:16,238
anticipated uses. So if we had

2757
01:48:16,238 --> 01:48:17,573
professional office of

2758
01:48:17,573 --> 01:48:19,973
approximately one job for 300

2759
01:48:21,643 --> 01:48:22,377
square feet medical

2760
01:48:22,377 --> 01:48:25,377
institution. Well, it is about

2761
01:48:25,714 --> 01:48:27,949
one per 350 square feet and

2762
01:48:27,949 --> 01:48:28,650
retail is approximately one

2763
01:48:28,650 --> 01:48:31,500
percent about per 500 square

2764
01:48:33,121 --> 01:48:34,189
feet just to give you an idea.

2765
01:48:34,189 --> 01:48:36,291
For the sarasota county

2766
01:48:36,291 --> 01:48:38,930
property appraiser's

2767
01:48:38,930 --> 01:48:40,930
methodologies the 2026

2768
01:48:40,195 --> 01:48:42,195
estimated square footage

2769
01:48:42,264 --> 01:48:43,699
evaluation for 150,000 square

2770
01:48:43,699 --> 01:48:45,501
foot nonresidential bill out

2771
01:48:45,501 --> 01:48:48,237
was determined by a comparable

2772
01:48:48,237 --> 01:48:50,500
building value of

2773
01:48:50,500 --> 01:48:50,939
16 million 500 pounds was

2774
01:48:50,939 --> 01:48:53,939
alting ineffective cost of a

2775
01:48:54,643 --> 01:48:56,846
110,000 per square feet. So

2776
01:48:56,846 --> 01:48:57,513
where did that come from it

2777
01:48:57,513 --> 01:49:00,513
was that estimated of a 110

2778
01:49:01,283 --> 01:49:02,551
per square multiply it by the

2779
01:49:02,551 --> 01:49:05,551
150,000 and it comes up with

2780
01:49:07,789 --> 01:49:09,624
that 6 million 500,000. So

2781
01:49:09,624 --> 01:49:11,493
here's here's the table with

2782
01:49:11,493 --> 01:49:12,161
the land use status, currently

2783
01:49:12,161 --> 01:49:14,863
vacant and this is roughly

2784
01:49:14,863 --> 01:49:16,431
this is based on our adopted

2785
01:49:16,431 --> 01:49:20,310
millage rate and this is the

2786
01:49:20,402 --> 01:49:21,469
approximate taxable annual

2787
01:49:21,469 --> 01:49:23,869
revenue propose next used

2788
01:49:24,472 --> 01:49:26,342
again at the 16 million 500

2789
01:49:26,342 --> 01:49:27,209
attack today. It would be that

2790
01:49:27,209 --> 01:49:30,809
about so the net fiscal gain

2791
01:49:30,913 --> 01:49:33,315
is you're showing that it is.

2792
01:49:33,315 --> 01:49:34,150
Now this is the taxable value

2793
01:49:34,150 --> 01:49:36,415
and 9 million 500 thousand is

2794
01:49:37,452 --> 01:49:38,853
not saying we're getting 900

2795
01:49:38,853 --> 01:49:39,588
9 million 500 thousand

2796
01:49:39,588 --> 01:49:40,189
revenue. It's the taxable

2797
01:49:40,189 --> 01:49:42,589
value very important to

2798
01:49:43,759 --> 01:49:45,759
distinguish between the 2.

2799
01:49:47,362 --> 01:49:48,640
Which would have a plus a

2800
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:49,364
35,784, so there is an

2801
01:49:49,364 --> 01:49:51,764
economic benefit to this

2802
01:49:52,801 --> 01:49:55,201
amendment. Which is in

2803
01:49:55,905 --> 01:49:57,905
compliance with the

2804
01:49:58,874 --> 01:50:00,242
comprehensive plan. Economic

2805
01:50:00,242 --> 01:50:01,610
of diversification it aligns

2806
01:50:01,610 --> 01:50:04,246
with our the city's mandate to

2807
01:50:04,246 --> 01:50:06,246
actively increase diversify

2808
01:50:07,490 --> 01:50:09,151
and expand municipal economic

2809
01:50:09,151 --> 01:50:11,530
tax base. And our progress as

2810
01:50:11,530 --> 01:50:11,753
I stated previously it's

2811
01:50:11,753 --> 01:50:14,153
towards the 18% that is

2812
01:50:14,223 --> 01:50:15,725
required for that component

2813
01:50:15,725 --> 01:50:18,725
that was in the comprehensive

2814
01:50:20,696 --> 01:50:22,564
plan so the commercial

2815
01:50:22,564 --> 01:50:23,933
baseline is secures that 50

2816
01:50:23,933 --> 01:50:26,933
acre expansion under the mixed

2817
01:50:28,437 --> 01:50:29,705
so it's a new mixed use 5 and

2818
01:50:29,705 --> 01:50:30,472
you 5. And again this was

2819
01:50:30,472 --> 01:50:31,106
about projections in the

2820
01:50:31,106 --> 01:50:33,506
revenues as I previously

2821
01:50:36,845 --> 01:50:38,213
stated. So with this

2822
01:50:38,213 --> 01:50:40,613
amendment, they're also asking

2823
01:50:43,318 --> 01:50:46,210
for to comply or adopt signage

2824
01:50:46,210 --> 01:50:46,722
standards for all signage judy

2825
01:50:46,722 --> 01:50:50,922
was just for a law signed is

2826
01:50:50,926 --> 01:50:51,893
this is all signage that will

2827
01:50:51,893 --> 01:50:52,627
have compliance they will

2828
01:50:52,627 --> 01:50:55,627
defer to chapter 5 the unified

2829
01:50:55,831 --> 01:50:58,231
land development code. It

2830
01:50:58,767 --> 01:50:59,835
applies that content neutral

2831
01:50:59,835 --> 01:51:02,338
measurable time space and man

2832
01:51:02,338 --> 01:51:02,938
are limits to mitigate visual

2833
01:51:02,938 --> 01:51:05,338
clutter also grants the

2834
01:51:05,507 --> 01:51:07,376
compliance as I stated

2835
01:51:07,376 --> 01:51:08,844
previously this is to prevent

2836
01:51:08,844 --> 01:51:09,511
any unexpected business costs

2837
01:51:09,511 --> 01:51:13,111
to any of those owners for

2838
01:51:14,817 --> 01:51:15,917
signage. Policy 5.1 parking

2839
01:51:15,917 --> 01:51:16,452
and traffic flow this refers

2840
01:51:16,452 --> 01:51:18,852
to the unified land

2841
01:51:20,890 --> 01:51:22,890
development code chapter 4

2842
01:51:22,958 --> 01:51:23,626
article 10 to guarantee safe.

2843
01:51:23,626 --> 01:51:24,326
Convenient on site traffic

2844
01:51:24,326 --> 01:51:24,960
flow parking capacity because

2845
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,960
it will need our parking

2846
01:51:30,465 --> 01:51:32,268
standards. Uses the parking

2847
01:51:32,268 --> 01:51:33,502
standard metrics and also to

2848
01:51:33,502 --> 01:51:35,571
minimize large asphalt front

2849
01:51:35,571 --> 01:51:37,971
footprints because our our

2850
01:51:39,608 --> 01:51:41,608
standards little more

2851
01:51:41,711 --> 01:51:42,345
stringent also. Free of this

2852
01:51:42,345 --> 01:51:43,779
parcel states for higher

2853
01:51:43,779 --> 01:51:45,779
intensity development in

2854
01:51:50,586 --> 01:51:53,255
public. Open spaces. Also want

2855
01:51:53,255 --> 01:51:54,122
jump on the at the roadways

2856
01:51:54,122 --> 01:51:54,824
levels service one component

2857
01:51:54,824 --> 01:51:57,824
of the comprehensive plan is

2858
01:51:58,930 --> 01:52:00,195
those levels services. They do

2859
01:52:00,195 --> 01:52:00,763
a traffic impact part of that

2860
01:52:00,763 --> 01:52:02,665
is included with the

2861
01:52:02,665 --> 01:52:05,635
commission back in it. It was

2862
01:52:05,635 --> 01:52:08,350
done SEPTEMBER 2025. It was

2863
01:52:09,705 --> 01:52:11,507
evaluated that it would not it

2864
01:52:11,507 --> 01:52:12,474
would fit within the existing

2865
01:52:12,474 --> 01:52:14,474
network capacity maintaining

2866
01:52:16,245 --> 01:52:17,513
those adopted local services,

2867
01:52:17,513 --> 01:52:19,448
even though that there are

2868
01:52:19,448 --> 01:52:22,448
daily trips are projected to

2869
01:52:24,853 --> 01:52:26,989
increase by 4,329 trips. It

2870
01:52:26,989 --> 01:52:29,389
does fall within their

2871
01:52:30,793 --> 01:52:32,261
acceptable levels to 2030

2872
01:52:32,261 --> 01:52:32,895
based on that traffic impact

2873
01:52:32,895 --> 01:52:35,295
statement which has been

2874
01:52:35,998 --> 01:52:37,967
reviewed and evaluated like to

2875
01:52:37,967 --> 01:52:38,634
add by our public rindge

2876
01:52:38,634 --> 01:52:40,634
transportation engineer as

2877
01:52:42,605 --> 01:52:44,640
well from the let it take. So

2878
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,640
there's going to be 0 offsite

2879
01:52:48,477 --> 01:52:51,477
improvements and also to know

2880
01:52:51,581 --> 01:52:52,615
that maintenance of the

2881
01:52:52,615 --> 01:52:53,215
roadways falls under wellen

2882
01:52:53,215 --> 01:52:55,551
park the city does not

2883
01:52:55,551 --> 01:52:56,251
maintain those roadways at all

2884
01:52:56,251 --> 01:52:59,851
that falls under long park it

2885
01:53:00,622 --> 01:53:03,220
is their responsibility. Legal

2886
01:53:03,426 --> 01:53:04,527
review and business impact a

2887
01:53:04,527 --> 01:53:06,662
student's so we're ordinance

2888
01:53:06,662 --> 01:53:07,362
2023 has been reviewed and

2889
01:53:07,362 --> 01:53:10,132
approved by the city attorney

2890
01:53:10,132 --> 01:53:13,202
and is legally a cracked as to

2891
01:53:13,202 --> 01:53:16,710
form. In addition pursuant to

2892
01:53:16,710 --> 01:53:17,440
florida statute section 1, 6,

2893
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:19,440
6.0 4, 1, foresee a business

2894
01:53:20,750 --> 01:53:20,842
impact statement was not

2895
01:53:20,842 --> 01:53:21,544
required because this

2896
01:53:21,544 --> 01:53:22,245
ordinance is an active to

2897
01:53:22,245 --> 01:53:24,245
implement comprehensive plan

2898
01:53:25,214 --> 01:53:25,982
amendments and land

2899
01:53:25,982 --> 01:53:27,982
development regulations and

2900
01:53:28,784 --> 01:53:29,919
then is initiated by an

2901
01:53:29,919 --> 01:53:30,452
applicant application by a

2902
01:53:30,452 --> 01:53:32,452
private party other

2903
01:53:35,958 --> 01:53:37,125
municipality. So this was a

2904
01:53:37,125 --> 01:53:37,827
privately not city did not the

2905
01:53:37,827 --> 01:53:40,896
city did not address this or

2906
01:53:40,896 --> 01:53:41,730
done to do it just to kind of

2907
01:53:41,730 --> 01:53:44,730
give you notice of happened

2908
01:53:44,734 --> 01:53:47,503
they did hold a public

2909
01:53:47,503 --> 01:53:48,638
workshop. Those workshop

2910
01:53:48,638 --> 01:53:49,271
materials, outcome, the

2911
01:53:49,271 --> 01:53:52,271
questions that is in your

2912
01:53:53,142 --> 01:53:54,430
package in great detail. It

2913
01:53:54,430 --> 01:53:56,443
discussed the expansion and

2914
01:53:59,281 --> 01:54:01,281
the entitlement adjustments.

2915
01:54:01,384 --> 01:54:03,419
JUNE 30th, 2026 those notices

2916
01:54:03,419 --> 01:54:05,688
were mailed to the owner and

2917
01:54:05,688 --> 01:54:06,222
property owners within 1320

2918
01:54:06,222 --> 01:54:08,222
feet and newspaper

2919
01:54:09,859 --> 01:54:10,893
advertisements were published.

2920
01:54:10,893 --> 01:54:13,293
The planning and zoning

2921
01:54:14,630 --> 01:54:16,165
advisory board on JULY 1620 26

2922
01:54:16,165 --> 01:54:16,799
hold a meeting voted 5 to 0

2923
01:54:16,799 --> 01:54:19,199
unanimous to approve the

2924
01:54:20,503 --> 01:54:21,237
changes to the amendments. The

2925
01:54:21,237 --> 01:54:24,873
next step this is where we are

2926
01:54:24,873 --> 01:54:25,641
here today for commission for

2927
01:54:25,641 --> 01:54:28,641
first reading with a proposed

2928
01:54:28,744 --> 01:54:31,144
adoption hearing for SEPTEMBER

2929
01:54:31,947 --> 01:54:34,484
22nd. Staff is asking that the

2930
01:54:34,484 --> 01:54:35,218
commission would approve this

2931
01:54:35,218 --> 01:54:35,952
ordinance and accompanying

2932
01:54:35,952 --> 01:54:38,952
amendments to the village even

2933
01:54:39,521 --> 01:54:40,322
district pattern plan for the

2934
01:54:40,322 --> 01:54:42,722
upcoming a city commission

2935
01:54:43,559 --> 01:54:45,294
meeting for second reading and

2936
01:54:45,294 --> 01:54:45,995
staff is here to answer any

2937
01:54:45,995 --> 01:54:49,595
questions and I thank you for

2938
01:54:50,199 --> 01:54:53,199
your time. And q. Rebuttal

2939
01:55:00,509 --> 01:55:01,243
applicant.

2940
01:55:01,243 --> 01:55:04,843
>> it you can offer a rebuttal

2941
01:55:05,614 --> 01:55:07,583
religious point of sure you

2942
01:55:07,583 --> 01:55:09,983
give a detailed presentation

2943
01:55:11,119 --> 01:55:11,854
questions that MAY arise in

2944
01:55:11,854 --> 01:55:15,454
your minds. She MAY come about

2945
01:55:16,158 --> 01:55:16,959
city last month just want to

2946
01:55:16,959 --> 01:55:17,526
remind everyone. The city has

2947
01:55:17,526 --> 01:55:19,328
not invested one any

2948
01:55:19,328 --> 01:55:21,728
improvement in lawn park

2949
01:55:22,865 --> 01:55:23,533
that's privately funded or in

2950
01:55:23,533 --> 01:55:24,133
some cases we do run things

2951
01:55:24,133 --> 01:55:26,502
through the motions of

2952
01:55:26,502 --> 01:55:28,902
permanently. Water plant built

2953
01:55:29,338 --> 01:55:31,738
I ballpark wastewater plant

2954
01:55:32,808 --> 01:55:33,710
built by wall park. Water

2955
01:55:33,710 --> 01:55:36,110
plant expansion which we're

2956
01:55:37,130 --> 01:55:37,680
starting to design bill by

2957
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:40,680
wang park. All the roadways

2958
01:55:40,883 --> 01:55:41,517
bill long parking wb I d. So I

2959
01:55:41,517 --> 01:55:42,184
just want to clarify that

2960
01:55:42,184 --> 01:55:45,184
because I know it's tough.

2961
01:55:47,323 --> 01:55:48,157
Just

2962
01:55:48,157 --> 01:55:50,126
to say. Yeah the city's

2963
01:55:50,126 --> 01:55:50,759
invested funds to him. To

2964
01:55:50,759 --> 01:55:53,759
level of service for the

2965
01:55:56,298 --> 01:55:57,320
roadway. Yes, there's

2966
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:00,320
increased trips with this plan

2967
01:56:01,404 --> 01:56:02,710
over the prior plan. However

2968
01:56:02,710 --> 01:56:04,439
what we could not do in the

2969
01:56:04,439 --> 01:56:06,439
updated traffic impact

2970
01:56:08,144 --> 01:56:08,878
statement with the show

2971
01:56:08,878 --> 01:56:10,846
significant reduction in dense

2972
01:56:10,846 --> 01:56:13,846
cities in the 2 joining bill

2973
01:56:15,170 --> 01:56:16,986
half collectively the

2974
01:56:16,986 --> 01:56:17,620
reductions are in excess of a

2975
01:56:17,620 --> 01:56:18,320
1000 homes in those 2 so

2976
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,720
really there's net reduction

2977
01:56:24,626 --> 01:56:25,294
in. And level service actually

2978
01:56:25,294 --> 01:56:28,294
goes up. But because we're

2979
01:56:28,698 --> 01:56:29,365
only talking about village 8.

2980
01:56:29,365 --> 01:56:32,668
We could only show what was

2981
01:56:32,668 --> 01:56:33,335
happening village e not

2982
01:56:33,335 --> 01:56:35,537
collectively we do it. The

2983
01:56:35,537 --> 01:56:36,638
west hills improvement

2984
01:56:36,638 --> 01:56:37,640
district. We literally update

2985
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:40,640
our traffic models for full

2986
01:56:41,477 --> 01:56:45,770
build out till at full build

2987
01:56:45,148 --> 01:56:45,781
so we have a good feeling.

2988
01:56:45,781 --> 01:56:48,217
Twice a year where we're

2989
01:56:48,217 --> 01:56:48,885
heading with improvements be

2990
01:56:48,885 --> 01:56:50,953
needed because we've got a

2991
01:56:50,953 --> 01:56:52,855
look long-term which roads to

2992
01:56:52,855 --> 01:56:53,456
be we know what fills the

2993
01:56:53,456 --> 01:56:55,856
parkway which has some

2994
01:56:56,392 --> 01:56:59,328
frontage on the parcel all to

2995
01:56:59,328 --> 01:57:01,230
41 someday will be for life.

2996
01:57:01,230 --> 01:57:01,898
Probably the trigger will be

2997
01:57:01,898 --> 01:57:04,801
some age when they come in

2998
01:57:04,801 --> 01:57:05,501
because they will inject so

2999
01:57:05,501 --> 01:57:07,901
significantly more traffic in

3000
01:57:09,372 --> 01:57:12,800
that area. Again something we

3001
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:12,675
monitor but just want to

3002
01:57:12,675 --> 01:57:15,750
clarify overall traffic is

3003
01:57:16,479 --> 01:57:17,180
heading not up. And last but

3004
01:57:17,180 --> 01:57:20,820
not least we show a reduction

3005
01:57:20,820 --> 01:57:22,482
in whole on residential

3006
01:57:24,860 --> 01:57:26,486
density down from the 1900.

3007
01:57:26,756 --> 01:57:29,292
Part of that 900 located up to

3008
01:57:29,292 --> 01:57:32,892
a 150 units for track h e

3009
01:57:34,830 --> 01:57:35,798
which was played off. Along

3010
01:57:35,798 --> 01:57:36,499
river road. We have entered

3011
01:57:36,499 --> 01:57:38,867
into contracts for commercial

3012
01:57:38,867 --> 01:57:39,535
use and that partial that

3013
01:57:39,535 --> 01:57:42,535
purchase of during the due

3014
01:57:43,273 --> 01:57:43,906
diligence and that part off.

3015
01:57:43,906 --> 01:57:45,906
Actually typed completing

3016
01:57:46,776 --> 01:57:47,376
playmore rolled across. Gci is

3017
01:57:47,376 --> 01:57:49,776
property which I think

3018
01:57:52,948 --> 01:57:53,682
saturday. Yes that could be 7

3019
01:57:53,682 --> 01:57:57,282
or 8 so that will be happening

3020
01:57:57,353 --> 01:57:58,221
here in the next 6 to 9

3021
01:57:58,221 --> 01:58:00,490
months. So what we did is we

3022
01:58:00,490 --> 01:58:01,157
MAY have some reduction

3023
01:58:01,157 --> 01:58:04,157
residential. What we did we

3024
01:58:05,461 --> 01:58:06,129
built in 150,000 square feet

3025
01:58:06,129 --> 01:58:09,129
of commercial for chance to

3026
01:58:10,566 --> 01:58:12,769
put that there. So things are

3027
01:58:12,769 --> 01:58:13,570
changing from when we started

3028
01:58:13,570 --> 01:58:14,304
this back a couple years ago,

3029
01:58:14,304 --> 01:58:16,206
but now we know we're going to

3030
01:58:16,206 --> 01:58:19,806
be able to have a commercial

3031
01:58:20,143 --> 01:58:21,110
use out there and play more in

3032
01:58:21,110 --> 01:58:22,978
river road. Just more and the

3033
01:58:22,978 --> 01:58:25,978
detail to what sure product.

3034
01:58:30,953 --> 01:58:31,554
Thank thank you sir.

3035
01:58:31,554 --> 01:58:35,154
>> yes sir I do have a

3036
01:58:36,959 --> 01:58:39,950
rebuttal to the okay so I just

3037
01:58:39,950 --> 01:58:41,197
wanted to make it very clear

3038
01:58:41,197 --> 01:58:41,898
when I evaluated this

3039
01:58:41,898 --> 01:58:44,898
petition, it's based on what

3040
01:58:45,268 --> 01:58:46,302
is existing at the time. And

3041
01:58:46,302 --> 01:58:47,437
the statement that I need is

3042
01:58:47,437 --> 01:58:49,837
based on that transferred

3043
01:58:50,706 --> 01:58:51,574
haitian impact statement. So

3044
01:58:51,574 --> 01:58:55,611
at this point in time based on

3045
01:58:55,611 --> 01:58:57,680
information for this approval.

3046
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:58,348
There are no impacts to that

3047
01:58:58,348 --> 01:59:00,348
infrastructure. There's no

3048
01:59:00,516 --> 01:59:02,585
requirement for lift stations,

3049
01:59:02,585 --> 01:59:03,586
cetera. So at this point in

3050
01:59:03,586 --> 01:59:04,287
time there are no impacts i

3051
01:59:04,287 --> 01:59:07,887
just want to make that clear

3052
01:59:08,591 --> 01:59:09,325
on the record.

3053
01:59:09,325 --> 01:59:11,861
>> and that is the real battle

3054
01:59:11,861 --> 01:59:14,497
to my rebuttal. Thank you for

3055
01:59:14,497 --> 01:59:17,497
your will not republican you

3056
01:59:21,637 --> 01:59:24,370
don't certainly public that.

3057
01:59:24,340 --> 01:59:26,340
>> all commission questions.

3058
01:59:29,378 --> 01:59:31,380
But thank you mayor.

3059
01:59:31,380 --> 01:59:33,490
>> first thank you MISTER Lose

3060
01:59:33,490 --> 01:59:33,783
case for your eye for the

3061
01:59:33,783 --> 01:59:37,983
record I was going ask you to

3062
01:59:39,823 --> 01:59:40,523
clarify exactly how

3063
01:59:40,523 --> 01:59:42,523
infrastructure expansions are

3064
01:59:43,626 --> 01:59:46,529
funded without and wellen park

3065
01:59:46,529 --> 01:59:47,797
and yes this been

3066
01:59:47,797 --> 01:59:48,797
misunderstanding across the

3067
01:59:48,797 --> 01:59:50,900
city of north port are

3068
01:59:50,900 --> 01:59:51,320
taxpayers on how that's done

3069
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:54,632
so thank you very much for

3070
01:59:57,173 --> 02:00:00,173
that. Also comment that I'm

3071
02:00:00,422 --> 02:00:00,561
frankly delighted with the

3072
02:00:00,561 --> 02:00:03,212
adjustments in this plan it's

3073
02:00:03,212 --> 02:00:04,380
long been recognized by city

3074
02:00:04,380 --> 02:00:05,114
that we need to bring more

3075
02:00:05,114 --> 02:00:09,314
jobs to the city of north port

3076
02:00:09,852 --> 02:00:12,155
and that we need to expand our

3077
02:00:12,155 --> 02:00:12,922
commercial footprint in order

3078
02:00:12,922 --> 02:00:13,556
to relieve some of the tax

3079
02:00:13,556 --> 02:00:15,956
burden on our homeowner

3080
02:00:19,950 --> 02:00:20,529
taxpayers. So. For those 2

3081
02:00:20,529 --> 02:00:20,997
reasons I hardly supportive of

3082
02:00:20,997 --> 02:00:22,997
these changes.

3083
02:00:25,168 --> 02:00:27,168
Developed next.

3084
02:00:29,505 --> 02:00:31,905
>> commissioner you all. First

3085
02:00:43,860 --> 02:00:43,753
of all. I heard the name wall.

3086
02:00:43,753 --> 02:00:44,554
>> he's no longer here are

3087
02:00:44,554 --> 02:00:46,554
credit is still.

3088
02:00:47,957 --> 02:00:48,691
>> being seen.

3089
02:00:48,691 --> 02:00:51,691
>> think that shows quality of

3090
02:00:52,128 --> 02:00:55,728
floyd. That she was for the

3091
02:00:57,133 --> 02:01:00,133
city that she missed. Anyone

3092
02:01:04,970 --> 02:01:04,225
who's been around city for a

3093
02:01:04,225 --> 02:01:07,225
you I've been here for 18

3094
02:01:11,347 --> 02:01:14,347
years. You although she was.

3095
02:01:14,851 --> 02:01:17,851
What MISTER Was it's first

3096
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,320
mentioned above. The ballpark.

3097
02:01:22,492 --> 02:01:24,727
And school. You see where and

3098
02:01:24,727 --> 02:01:26,727
it's beautiful facility.

3099
02:01:29,766 --> 02:01:31,400
School there. And this is the

3100
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:32,568
well, you I think about who

3101
02:01:32,568 --> 02:01:35,305
you still a lot of that across

3102
02:01:35,305 --> 02:01:37,305
ballpark. Well for

3103
02:01:37,741 --> 02:01:40,741
millennials. That was a great

3104
02:01:46,182 --> 02:01:46,883
change. As MISTER Was stated.

3105
02:01:46,883 --> 02:01:49,686
Well apart that property back

3106
02:01:49,686 --> 02:01:52,860
school is for. Been

3107
02:01:55,591 --> 02:01:58,591
repurposed. All of these the

3108
02:02:01,731 --> 02:02:05,331
family was up to me. Still

3109
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:12,420
trees. But that's not you know

3110
02:02:12,420 --> 02:02:14,878
people are moving to florida.

3111
02:02:14,878 --> 02:02:17,878
People are going to florida.

3112
02:02:18,281 --> 02:02:20,683
Just from my experience with

3113
02:02:20,683 --> 02:02:24,283
the well apart. They get on

3114
02:02:25,655 --> 02:02:26,289
the and I think this is

3115
02:02:26,289 --> 02:02:28,689
example of making proper

3116
02:02:32,428 --> 02:02:32,963
adjustments. Thanks for

3117
02:02:32,963 --> 02:02:34,963
commissioner petro.

3118
02:02:38,535 --> 02:02:39,969
>> have a couple things. So

3119
02:02:39,969 --> 02:02:40,703
this ordinance intends change

3120
02:02:40,703 --> 02:02:42,172
and opponents entitlements and

3121
02:02:42,172 --> 02:02:44,172
reduce residential increasing

3122
02:02:48,144 --> 02:02:48,845
commercial whatever the number

3123
02:02:48,845 --> 02:02:51,245
but increasing the commercial

3124
02:02:56,152 --> 02:02:56,953
by 150 square feet. And on the

3125
02:02:56,953 --> 02:03:00,553
one total area of the square

3126
02:03:03,827 --> 02:03:05,362
footage or acreage. As far as

3127
02:03:05,362 --> 02:03:07,931
we're reducing biden said or

3128
02:03:07,931 --> 02:03:10,767
we still have some leftovers

3129
02:03:10,767 --> 02:03:11,668
from designation okay so the

3130
02:03:11,668 --> 02:03:12,302
60 acre parcel that we're

3131
02:03:12,302 --> 02:03:15,302
adding in from the school

3132
02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:17,507
board property in hand.

3133
02:03:17,507 --> 02:03:18,474
>> they're proposing to

3134
02:03:18,474 --> 02:03:20,474
increase the non-residential

3135
02:03:22,211 --> 02:03:22,812
by a 150,000 square feet in

3136
02:03:22,812 --> 02:03:25,812
that area. So under the

3137
02:03:26,149 --> 02:03:27,250
current village district

3138
02:03:27,250 --> 02:03:29,650
pattern plan their allocation

3139
02:03:30,153 --> 02:03:31,988
for square feet 400,000 so

3140
02:03:31,988 --> 02:03:34,988
this will increase the total

3141
02:03:36,927 --> 02:03:39,927
to 550,000 square feet. And in

3142
02:03:41,297 --> 02:03:41,998
addition to reducing

3143
02:03:41,998 --> 02:03:43,467
residential component from a

3144
02:03:43,467 --> 02:03:45,202
residential units I'd be all

3145
02:03:45,202 --> 02:03:47,202
cross.

3146
02:03:49,639 --> 02:03:52,390
>> village e to the 900.

3147
02:03:52,242 --> 02:03:52,909
>> they have to be resold for

3148
02:03:52,909 --> 02:03:55,110
ordinance covers a new test

3149
02:03:55,110 --> 02:03:57,411
when concept, whatever you

3150
02:04:01,151 --> 02:04:03,252
call as opposed to plan.

3151
02:04:03,252 --> 02:04:05,880
>> do we have rezoning from

3152
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:07,491
shifting from bench, you know

3153
02:04:07,491 --> 02:04:11,910
rezoning know it's it's all so

3154
02:04:11,940 --> 02:04:11,494
that the village no rezoning

3155
02:04:11,494 --> 02:04:12,495
no change.

3156
02:04:12,495 --> 02:04:14,264
>> and just understand it's

3157
02:04:14,264 --> 02:04:16,664
not it's it's incorporating

3158
02:04:17,133 --> 02:04:19,202
the 60 acres village with

3159
02:04:19,202 --> 02:04:20,303
those 60 acres were part of

3160
02:04:20,303 --> 02:04:21,938
the wellen park which is

3161
02:04:21,938 --> 02:04:24,407
putting it in here for ability

3162
02:04:24,407 --> 02:04:26,807
to add that non-residential

3163
02:04:28,378 --> 02:04:29,780
square feet.

3164
02:04:29,780 --> 02:04:31,478
>> have another question for

3165
02:04:33,683 --> 02:04:36,453
MISTER Of those in and this

3166
02:04:36,453 --> 02:04:38,453
for a so.

3167
02:04:44,294 --> 02:04:44,694
How does the infrastructure

3168
02:04:44,694 --> 02:04:45,562
expansion.

3169
02:04:45,562 --> 02:04:46,262
It's funded news said it

3170
02:04:46,262 --> 02:04:48,131
clearly that is funded by the

3171
02:04:48,131 --> 02:04:50,531
developer. But the city

3172
02:04:53,170 --> 02:04:53,970
reverses the developer.

3173
02:04:53,970 --> 02:04:56,970
Through the impact fees and

3174
02:04:58,508 --> 02:04:59,209
how much is dollars per you

3175
02:04:59,209 --> 02:05:02,209
could do a racial it's $0.50

3176
02:05:04,547 --> 02:05:06,416
per and the dollar. And it was

3177
02:05:06,416 --> 02:05:07,350
specifically did refer stuff

3178
02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:07,884
like station wastewater

3179
02:05:07,884 --> 02:05:09,884
whatever all those

3180
02:05:10,420 --> 02:05:12,420
infrastructure. Components you

3181
02:05:12,522 --> 02:05:15,522
do get reimbursed. And my

3182
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:17,660
question is how much who

3183
02:05:17,660 --> 02:05:20,660
>> I can't give the exit

3184
02:05:20,864 --> 02:05:21,598
dollar values like getting

3185
02:05:21,598 --> 02:05:22,565
done calls. And traffic as you

3186
02:05:22,565 --> 02:05:26,765
know the of that these must be

3187
02:05:27,170 --> 02:05:27,871
spent in that year. So my

3188
02:05:27,871 --> 02:05:31,471
nexus they need to come into

3189
02:05:34,477 --> 02:05:35,144
the park area. Dollars we've

3190
02:05:35,144 --> 02:05:38,144
spent as APRIL this year

3191
02:05:41,786 --> 02:05:44,186
160 million dollars. On roads.

3192
02:05:46,550 --> 02:05:47,824
Just the not any subdivision.

3193
02:05:47,824 --> 02:05:48,425
I believe that JUNE first of

3194
02:05:48,425 --> 02:05:50,293
this year, the city is

3195
02:05:50,293 --> 02:05:52,693
reimbursed this through impact

3196
02:05:55,198 --> 02:05:57,467
fees. 16 million dollars. So

3197
02:05:57,467 --> 02:05:59,867
we received about $0.10. On

3198
02:06:01,204 --> 02:06:01,604
every dollar we've spent.

3199
02:06:01,604 --> 02:06:03,604
Great deal.

3200
02:06:06,643 --> 02:06:07,344
>> but it's spending right.

3201
02:06:07,344 --> 02:06:09,445
>> all receipts only waivers

3202
02:06:09,445 --> 02:06:10,147
have been reviewed by we've

3203
02:06:10,147 --> 02:06:13,830
been provided to the city in

3204
02:06:13,830 --> 02:06:15,483
been review. Lift stations

3205
02:06:20,690 --> 02:06:22,793
reimbursement 0. We we do get

3206
02:06:22,793 --> 02:06:24,270
you know she payments which a

3207
02:06:24,270 --> 02:06:26,196
cap on for the repayment all

3208
02:06:26,196 --> 02:06:26,897
don't mean the wastewater

3209
02:06:26,897 --> 02:06:29,897
treatment plant and same goes

3210
02:06:30,900 --> 02:06:31,634
for water plant. One with

3211
02:06:31,634 --> 02:06:34,340
wastewater treatment plant was

3212
02:06:35,705 --> 02:06:36,439
repaid in that money is coming

3213
02:06:36,439 --> 02:06:39,876
in sitting in a for the

3214
02:06:39,876 --> 02:06:40,610
planned expansion between

3215
02:06:40,610 --> 02:06:42,579
expanding the wastewater plant

3216
02:06:42,579 --> 02:06:44,881
from 2 million gallons. A day

3217
02:06:44,881 --> 02:06:47,881
to 4 million young today. Plus

3218
02:06:48,384 --> 02:06:51,384
the contemplated law to bring

3219
02:06:51,955 --> 02:06:54,355
additional reclaim from the

3220
02:06:55,759 --> 02:06:57,828
pen america up 1.2 well in

3221
02:06:57,828 --> 02:06:58,495
part to address the city's

3222
02:06:58,495 --> 02:07:00,895
18 million dollars issue of

3223
02:07:03,834 --> 02:07:05,834
ionizing. Those 2 combined

3224
02:07:05,936 --> 02:07:07,370
dissipate be about 40 million

3225
02:07:07,370 --> 02:07:10,370
dollars and will be ultimately

3226
02:07:10,574 --> 02:07:11,241
repaid. Hopefully you know

3227
02:07:11,241 --> 02:07:13,641
she's hopefully we'll have

3228
02:07:13,877 --> 02:07:17,477
enough year she has pay that.

3229
02:07:18,581 --> 02:07:20,284
I so that again. Fully paid

3230
02:07:20,284 --> 02:07:23,353
remember when we when I say

3231
02:07:23,353 --> 02:07:25,955
were paid. We the money. You

3232
02:07:25,955 --> 02:07:28,955
don't charge of any interest.

3233
02:07:30,194 --> 02:07:31,662
It's 0 interest law. Just like

3234
02:07:31,662 --> 02:07:32,295
we do with the fire station

3235
02:07:32,295 --> 02:07:34,295
police substation public

3236
02:07:36,333 --> 02:07:37,167
safety building all you know,

3237
02:07:37,167 --> 02:07:37,868
that's pretty good federal

3238
02:07:37,868 --> 02:07:41,468
government and you can get a

3239
02:07:48,478 --> 02:07:49,646
deal you know the part list.

3240
02:07:49,646 --> 02:07:51,448
The part due to heat all the

3241
02:07:51,448 --> 02:07:52,182
questions yeah well, one thing

3242
02:07:52,182 --> 02:07:55,180
that as for more clarification

3243
02:07:55,180 --> 02:07:57,418
as far as that.

3244
02:07:58,989 --> 02:08:00,757
>> you've been reimbursed but

3245
02:08:00,757 --> 02:08:01,391
there's a pending

3246
02:08:01,391 --> 02:08:03,791
reimbursements as well so

3247
02:08:06,129 --> 02:08:08,465
there's need for what. When

3248
02:08:08,465 --> 02:08:09,266
news that I think is set to

3249
02:08:09,266 --> 02:08:09,866
lift stations. I forget

3250
02:08:09,866 --> 02:08:12,266
station never been any

3251
02:08:13,136 --> 02:08:14,304
reimbursements on any

3252
02:08:14,304 --> 02:08:15,939
legislation.

3253
02:08:15,939 --> 02:08:17,939
>> pending because annually

3254
02:08:19,476 --> 02:08:20,177
the city reimburses for wrote

3255
02:08:20,177 --> 02:08:22,846
for impact fees collected in

3256
02:08:22,846 --> 02:08:23,547
the prior 12 months. So

3257
02:08:23,547 --> 02:08:26,416
generally I will some of the

3258
02:08:26,416 --> 02:08:29,416
bill. Basically shows what we

3259
02:08:30,621 --> 02:08:31,288
spend here today. I send it to

3260
02:08:31,288 --> 02:08:34,288
the city generally on APRIL

3261
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:37,795
1st. Generally by JUNE 1st we

3262
02:08:37,795 --> 02:08:41,395
get reimbursed. So if the city

3263
02:08:41,598 --> 02:08:43,598
collects. 5 million dollars.

3264
02:08:44,601 --> 02:08:47,601
There's a caution. I think

3265
02:08:47,670 --> 02:08:50,541
right now we're at 80%. The

3266
02:08:50,541 --> 02:08:53,541
city had 5 million in coffers

3267
02:08:54,210 --> 02:08:57,210
to reimburse us that year.

3268
02:08:57,347 --> 02:08:57,981
They would submit send us that

3269
02:08:57,981 --> 02:08:58,649
4 million dollars keep a

3270
02:08:58,649 --> 02:09:01,451
million dollars for use of

3271
02:09:01,451 --> 02:09:03,653
roadways also in the city.

3272
02:09:03,653 --> 02:09:04,320
Follows the road we

3273
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:06,320
reimbursement agreement we

3274
02:09:09,493 --> 02:09:10,194
entered into MARCH in 2020.

3275
02:09:10,194 --> 02:09:10,827
>> so this is one 60 million

3276
02:09:10,827 --> 02:09:13,227
for the roles 160 million

3277
02:09:14,898 --> 02:09:15,598
which

3278
02:09:15,598 --> 02:09:16,266
>> does the plasma number was

3279
02:09:16,266 --> 02:09:16,666
invested as of APRIL one of

3280
02:09:16,666 --> 02:09:18,666
this year.

3281
02:09:20,337 --> 02:09:20,837
We believe that full build out

3282
02:09:20,837 --> 02:09:23,237
will be close to

3283
02:09:24,107 --> 02:09:26,476
200 million. Does not include

3284
02:09:26,476 --> 02:09:27,477
our investments we've made and

3285
02:09:27,477 --> 02:09:30,477
river road just to remind

3286
02:09:33,784 --> 02:09:34,518
everybody to date we're public

3287
02:09:34,518 --> 02:09:38,118
or private invest any money in

3288
02:09:39,230 --> 02:09:39,690
south river road. County, some

3289
02:09:39,690 --> 02:09:40,390
0.3 million dollars for you

3290
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:43,127
design and permitting of that

3291
02:09:43,127 --> 02:09:44,794
role.

3292
02:09:44,794 --> 02:09:48,394
>> once the built out for you

3293
02:09:48,598 --> 02:09:50,998
said 200 million. How much

3294
02:09:52,602 --> 02:09:53,904
this project and your

3295
02:09:53,904 --> 02:09:55,272
destination to be collected

3296
02:09:55,272 --> 02:09:58,441
from the for 3 event when he

3297
02:09:58,441 --> 02:09:59,760
will be

3298
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:02,760
>> if we get $0.40 on the

3299
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:07,800
dollar expense. I mean roughly

3300
02:10:07,318 --> 02:10:09,718
11,000 homes in. And we

3301
02:10:12,689 --> 02:10:14,689
receive 16 million dollars.

3302
02:10:16,293 --> 02:10:16,960
Granted you becomes one 67

3303
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:18,960
benderson commercial couple

3304
02:10:19,963 --> 02:10:22,963
hospitals coming those are. I.

3305
02:10:23,433 --> 02:10:24,167
Years of traffic into

3306
02:10:24,167 --> 02:10:27,167
hopefully you know we're going

3307
02:10:27,304 --> 02:10:28,138
see a big jump in that number.

3308
02:10:28,138 --> 02:10:31,738
Don't think we have get more

3309
02:10:33,343 --> 02:10:35,743
than 30 to 40%. Thank you.

3310
02:10:45,456 --> 02:10:46,156
>> closing arguments staff.

3311
02:10:46,156 --> 02:10:47,624
>> thank you commissioners as

3312
02:10:47,624 --> 02:10:50,240
previously staff asking that

3313
02:10:52,530 --> 02:10:53,664
the commission would approve

3314
02:10:53,664 --> 02:10:56,640
the ordinance to continue

3315
02:10:56,466 --> 02:10:57,101
second reading based on the

3316
02:10:57,101 --> 02:10:57,801
information and the facts

3317
02:10:57,801 --> 02:11:00,201
presented before thank thank

3318
02:11:05,576 --> 02:11:07,576
you.

3319
02:11:09,479 --> 02:11:09,814
>> request approval of rvp

3320
02:11:09,814 --> 02:11:10,481
think.

3321
02:11:10,481 --> 02:11:12,881
>> thank close public areas

3322
02:11:14,384 --> 02:11:16,384
request a motion.

3323
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:18,520
>> to continue ordinance 2026

3324
02:11:21,491 --> 02:11:22,560
23 2nd reading amber 22nd 2026

3325
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:24,960
motion made to continue

3326
02:11:25,462 --> 02:11:27,462
ordinance number 2026 3 the

3327
02:11:29,700 --> 02:11:30,601
second SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2026

3328
02:11:30,601 --> 02:11:31,302
commissioner seconded by vice

3329
02:11:31,302 --> 02:11:34,302
mayor there's nothing to that

3330
02:11:34,504 --> 02:11:36,504
please

3331
02:11:41,545 --> 02:11:43,547
>> passes 5 to 0. And it's

3332
02:11:43,547 --> 02:11:46,547
almost 12 will come back from

3333
02:11:48,199 --> 02:11:48,866
little bit really yeah it

3334
02:11:48,866 --> 02:11:51,802
actually does and we've got

3335
02:11:51,802 --> 02:11:52,202
such a variety of a piece of

3336
02:11:52,202 --> 02:11:52,836
equipment.

3337
02:11:52,836 --> 02:11:53,571
>> you know and different

3338
02:11:53,571 --> 02:11:54,238
fixes different buckets it all

3339
02:11:54,238 --> 02:11:56,638
requires you know different

3340
02:11:57,575 --> 02:12:00,575
links with trailers the same

3341
02:12:02,479 --> 02:12:02,814
way right it's a it's it's

3342
02:12:02,814 --> 02:12:03,481
great.

3343
02:12:03,481 --> 02:12:04,181
>> yeah, we did a great job

3344
02:12:04,181 --> 02:12:04,915
and we appreciate it, thanks

3345
02:12:04,915 --> 02:12:05,616
for everything very much yeah.

3346
02:12:05,616 --> 02:12:06,170
Here not going to appreciate

3347
02:12:06,170 --> 02:12:08,170
thank you.

3348
02:12:08,112 --> 02:12:09,586
>> last that

3349
02:12:09,586 --> 02:12:10,288
>> was meant. The vehicle we

3350
02:12:10,288 --> 02:12:11,922
were working on the one used

3351
02:12:11,922 --> 02:12:14,258
by the city manager's office

3352
02:12:14,258 --> 02:12:14,858
happy to be do for service.

3353
02:12:14,858 --> 02:12:16,858
>> perfect timing every

3354
02:12:17,428 --> 02:12:20,428
vehicle comes in the shop

3355
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:23,100
doesn't matter if it's a

3356
02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:23,801
police fire. Office personnel

3357
02:12:23,801 --> 02:12:26,801
anything we inspection on the

3358
02:12:27,305 --> 02:12:28,500
vehicle ok matter what it is.

3359
02:12:28,500 --> 02:12:28,672
Well will start from the back

3360
02:12:28,672 --> 02:12:31,608
and usually work our way to

3361
02:12:31,608 --> 02:12:34,412
the front checking all shock

3362
02:12:34,412 --> 02:12:35,112
suspensions. Springs of they

3363
02:12:35,112 --> 02:12:38,112
axles breaks whatever it that

3364
02:12:40,651 --> 02:12:41,752
we coming counter that we

3365
02:12:41,752 --> 02:12:42,787
normal wear and I it just

3366
02:12:42,787 --> 02:12:45,187
because the vehicle's new

3367
02:12:45,723 --> 02:12:46,557
doesn't mean it's it's good

3368
02:12:46,557 --> 02:12:48,693
lot of times we see some of

3369
02:12:48,693 --> 02:12:50,561
the newer vehicles have parts

3370
02:12:50,561 --> 02:12:51,696
that fail so we make sure we

3371
02:12:51,696 --> 02:12:52,596
check everything pretty

3372
02:12:52,596 --> 02:12:53,330
thoroughly and stuff like

3373
02:12:53,330 --> 02:12:53,998
tires are a big part of it and

3374
02:12:53,998 --> 02:12:56,534
they tell you more than you

3375
02:12:56,534 --> 02:12:57,268
think.

3376
02:12:57,268 --> 02:12:59,268
>> anything below 3.30 seconds

3377
02:13:00,804 --> 02:13:02,807
is automatic replacement. And

3378
02:13:02,807 --> 02:13:03,507
then we check the difference

3379
02:13:03,507 --> 02:13:04,174
between a from the rare case

3380
02:13:04,174 --> 02:13:04,908
of tires have to be rotated

3381
02:13:04,908 --> 02:13:06,277
we've got a little tired gauge

3382
02:13:06,277 --> 02:13:06,978
that we usually.

3383
02:13:06,978 --> 02:13:09,981
>> you know pull out we stick

3384
02:13:09,981 --> 02:13:12,981
right in the senate heard.

3385
02:13:14,419 --> 02:13:16,520
It's up to 1130 seconds.

3386
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:17,221
Checked the outside to cause a

3387
02:13:17,221 --> 02:13:20,524
tire will tell you yeah a lot

3388
02:13:20,524 --> 02:13:21,258
of very if information on how

3389
02:13:21,258 --> 02:13:23,658
vehicles where have suspension

3390
02:13:25,362 --> 02:13:27,762
issued warning. Possible part

3391
02:13:29,934 --> 02:13:30,568
replacement the world.

3392
02:13:30,568 --> 02:13:31,802
>> the term that heard of

3393
02:13:31,802 --> 02:13:34,138
would have had to pay the bill

3394
02:13:34,138 --> 02:13:35,773
but not exactly exactly seeing

3395
02:13:35,773 --> 02:13:39,373
them and rely every vehicle is

3396
02:13:43,140 --> 02:13:46,140
a little different every time

3397
02:13:48,753 --> 02:13:49,420
>> I 45 and we're

3398
02:13:49,420 --> 02:13:52,420
>> quick on that think you

3399
02:13:52,557 --> 02:13:53,524
very much because I have to

3400
02:13:53,524 --> 02:13:56,524
tell you like always so

3401
02:13:57,161 --> 02:13:57,796
conversation about west

3402
02:13:57,796 --> 02:14:00,796
villages and how you know

3403
02:14:01,399 --> 02:14:02,660
whether or not north port

3404
02:14:02,660 --> 02:14:02,766
taxpayers help toughened up

3405
02:14:02,766 --> 02:14:05,766
there so appreciate you some

3406
02:14:06,360 --> 02:14:06,737
clarity to a it all out. You

3407
02:14:06,737 --> 02:14:08,840
know MISTER Lipinski explain

3408
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:12,440
that and you know that does

3409
02:14:16,814 --> 02:14:18,820
help because sir. You know I'm

3410
02:14:18,820 --> 02:14:18,650
but we come into report

3411
02:14:18,650 --> 02:14:19,830
taxpayers pockets so

3412
02:14:19,830 --> 02:14:21,830
appreciated.

3413
02:14:27,125 --> 02:14:27,992
>> 2 ordinance 2026 24. I

3414
02:14:27,992 --> 02:14:28,660
request a motion to direct the

3415
02:14:28,660 --> 02:14:32,960
city clerk to read by title

3416
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:34,732
only second. And the motion

3417
02:14:34,732 --> 02:14:35,933
made by commissioner stokes

3418
02:14:35,933 --> 02:14:36,801
seconded by vice city

3419
02:14:36,801 --> 02:14:39,801
clerk read by title only

3420
02:14:42,273 --> 02:14:45,273
nothing to that please vote.

3421
02:14:46,277 --> 02:14:48,346
And passes 5, 0 city clerk.

3422
02:14:48,346 --> 02:14:49,680
>> ordinance number 2026 24

3423
02:14:49,680 --> 02:14:50,248
and ordinance of the city

3424
02:14:50,248 --> 02:14:51,749
in north port florida

3425
02:14:51,749 --> 02:14:53,484
repealing chapter 4 article 10

3426
02:14:53,484 --> 02:14:55,453
of the code of the city

3427
02:14:55,453 --> 02:14:56,120
of north port florida their

3428
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:56,721
buddy standing the historic

3429
02:14:56,721 --> 02:14:58,322
cultural advisory board

3430
02:14:58,322 --> 02:14:58,890
providing for findings

3431
02:14:58,890 --> 02:14:59,557
providing for complex

3432
02:14:59,557 --> 02:15:00,291
providing for severability

3433
02:15:00,291 --> 02:15:02,691
providing for codification and

3434
02:15:05,620 --> 02:15:07,398
providing an effective date.

3435
02:15:07,398 --> 02:15:10,398
>> already and this is your

3436
02:15:11,169 --> 02:15:12,270
right this on JULY 21st 2026

3437
02:15:12,270 --> 02:15:13,805
discuss this board and their

3438
02:15:13,805 --> 02:15:14,505
lack membership at that time

3439
02:15:14,505 --> 02:15:17,308
had one member left remaining

3440
02:15:17,308 --> 02:15:18,100
on the board and.

3441
02:15:18,100 --> 02:15:18,777
>> commission directed me to

3442
02:15:18,777 --> 02:15:21,777
draft an ordinance to standing

3443
02:15:22,814 --> 02:15:23,414
that

3444
02:15:23,414 --> 02:15:25,414
>> commission questions

3445
02:15:27,752 --> 02:15:30,152
discussion. Youve got public

3446
02:15:37,763 --> 02:15:38,462
comment.

3447
02:15:38,462 --> 02:15:40,865
>> I'm so sad that this is on

3448
02:15:40,865 --> 02:15:43,865
the agenda again. This the

3449
02:15:46,737 --> 02:15:50,337
board. You know this. Almost a

3450
02:15:51,575 --> 02:15:53,770
year and a half.

3451
02:15:53,770 --> 02:15:53,778
>> I've been sending the board

3452
02:15:53,778 --> 02:15:54,479
information on really we need

3453
02:15:54,479 --> 02:15:55,813
take a look at these advisory

3454
02:15:55,813 --> 02:15:58,213
boards. While the remaining

3455
02:16:00,551 --> 02:16:01,186
empty. How can we get people

3456
02:16:01,186 --> 02:16:04,186
on them and interested in

3457
02:16:07,192 --> 02:16:07,892
serving. That was supposed to

3458
02:16:07,892 --> 02:16:08,593
be an agenda item last year I

3459
02:16:08,593 --> 02:16:11,162
think we're still working on

3460
02:16:11,162 --> 02:16:14,762
it. But it definitely needs be

3461
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:15,900
a workshop. To everybody look

3462
02:16:15,900 --> 02:16:18,770
at how we can people involved

3463
02:16:18,770 --> 02:16:21,472
in advisory boards. Maybe we

3464
02:16:21,472 --> 02:16:22,140
need to combine some advisory

3465
02:16:22,140 --> 02:16:24,108
boards. I think we need to

3466
02:16:24,108 --> 02:16:27,780
look at the criteria for some

3467
02:16:27,780 --> 02:16:30,780
of these advisory boards. I

3468
02:16:30,548 --> 02:16:31,249
mean this is an important

3469
02:16:31,249 --> 02:16:32,830
advisory board but because of

3470
02:16:32,830 --> 02:16:35,830
the lack of participation and

3471
02:16:38,289 --> 02:16:38,956
quorum issues. We have to.

3472
02:16:38,956 --> 02:16:39,657
Repeal it but do we really

3473
02:16:39,657 --> 02:16:43,940
have to repeal it coming not

3474
02:16:43,940 --> 02:16:44,228
just temporarily suspend it.

3475
02:16:44,228 --> 02:16:45,329
While we MAY be scheduled

3476
02:16:45,329 --> 02:16:46,300
workshop to really go over

3477
02:16:46,300 --> 02:16:49,300
these advisory boards and see

3478
02:16:51,202 --> 02:16:51,870
what we can do. Influence more

3479
02:16:51,870 --> 02:16:54,270
more participation on these

3480
02:16:57,943 --> 02:16:59,644
boards. And then also the

3481
02:16:59,644 --> 02:17:00,244
memos and the recommendations

3482
02:17:00,244 --> 02:17:00,979
that I had given to the

3483
02:17:00,979 --> 02:17:04,579
commission last year to take a

3484
02:17:05,116 --> 02:17:07,180
look at it again. And see what

3485
02:17:07,180 --> 02:17:07,652
we can really because it's

3486
02:17:07,652 --> 02:17:09,652
important these advisory

3487
02:17:10,210 --> 02:17:12,624
boards are important. We need

3488
02:17:12,624 --> 02:17:13,591
to citizen input on these

3489
02:17:13,591 --> 02:17:14,192
boards and then their voices

3490
02:17:14,192 --> 02:17:17,192
need to really be taken

3491
02:17:18,529 --> 02:17:20,529
seriously. Recommendations and

3492
02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:24,100
memos that are given to the

3493
02:17:24,100 --> 02:17:24,703
commission. So instead of just

3494
02:17:24,703 --> 02:17:25,337
repealing it and getting rid

3495
02:17:25,337 --> 02:17:26,504
of this again can we just

3496
02:17:26,504 --> 02:17:28,904
temporarily suspended until we

3497
02:17:30,708 --> 02:17:32,510
can really figure out. All the

3498
02:17:32,510 --> 02:17:33,611
different aspects of these

3499
02:17:33,611 --> 02:17:34,479
advisory boards and why we

3500
02:17:34,479 --> 02:17:35,146
have such low participation in

3501
02:17:35,146 --> 02:17:37,546
vacancies available all the

3502
02:17:38,616 --> 02:17:39,317
time. That would be my

3503
02:17:39,317 --> 02:17:41,717
recommendation to this court

3504
02:17:42,854 --> 02:17:44,854
please reconsider. Temporarily

3505
02:17:50,962 --> 02:17:52,864
suspending have a workshop.

3506
02:17:52,864 --> 02:17:53,965
>> phillips, I'm writing to

3507
02:17:53,965 --> 02:17:56,670
express my strong opposition

3508
02:17:56,670 --> 02:17:57,340
to the proposal to disband the

3509
02:17:57,340 --> 02:17:58,403
historic cultural advisory

3510
02:17:58,403 --> 02:17:59,337
board dismantling this fido

3511
02:17:59,337 --> 02:18:01,737
and steve community's ability

3512
02:18:02,607 --> 02:18:03,208
to protect conserve and raise

3513
02:18:03,208 --> 02:18:03,808
public awareness of the

3514
02:18:03,808 --> 02:18:05,808
priceless historic and

3515
02:18:06,777 --> 02:18:08,679
cultural resources that define

3516
02:18:08,679 --> 02:18:09,780
our identity. Report serves as

3517
02:18:09,780 --> 02:18:10,482
indispensable asset to our

3518
02:18:10,482 --> 02:18:12,651
local government bridges, the

3519
02:18:12,651 --> 02:18:13,651
gap between official policy

3520
02:18:13,651 --> 02:18:14,786
makers in the community

3521
02:18:14,786 --> 02:18:15,954
ensuring that for the modern

3522
02:18:15,954 --> 02:18:17,655
development do not come at the

3523
02:18:17,655 --> 02:18:18,923
expense of our heritage but

3524
02:18:18,923 --> 02:18:20,792
that the dedicated expert

3525
02:18:20,792 --> 02:18:22,727
recommendations of this board

3526
02:18:22,727 --> 02:18:23,761
reversed permanently losing

3527
02:18:23,761 --> 02:18:24,929
the unique cultural landscapes

3528
02:18:24,929 --> 02:18:25,597
historical structures public

3529
02:18:25,597 --> 02:18:27,532
art installations that make

3530
02:18:27,532 --> 02:18:28,199
our community a place to live

3531
02:18:28,199 --> 02:18:28,900
and visit rather than to

3532
02:18:28,900 --> 02:18:31,300
stopping the border to

3533
02:18:31,670 --> 02:18:32,670
temporary hurdle such as

3534
02:18:32,670 --> 02:18:33,939
membership fluctuations

3535
02:18:33,939 --> 02:18:35,774
community engagement our

3536
02:18:35,774 --> 02:18:37,800
leadership should actively

3537
02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:39,800
investing revitalizing urge

3538
02:18:39,611 --> 02:18:40,312
you to reject any measures to

3539
02:18:40,312 --> 02:18:40,979
dissolve this advisory group

3540
02:18:40,979 --> 02:18:43,379
and said launch targeted

3541
02:18:43,715 --> 02:18:44,349
efforts to recruit passionate

3542
02:18:44,349 --> 02:18:44,949
community volunteers and

3543
02:18:44,949 --> 02:18:45,617
restore the board to

3544
02:18:45,617 --> 02:18:48,170
full-capacity thank you for

3545
02:18:48,553 --> 02:18:49,253
your time leadership and

3546
02:18:49,253 --> 02:18:50,722
commitment to preserving the

3547
02:18:50,722 --> 02:18:51,456
historic integrity of our

3548
02:18:51,456 --> 02:18:52,190
community. I strongly urge you

3549
02:18:52,190 --> 02:18:52,891
to vote against the disbanding

3550
02:18:52,891 --> 02:18:55,891
of the historic and cultural

3551
02:18:58,597 --> 02:19:00,997
advisory. And that's all.

3552
02:19:04,702 --> 02:19:05,369
>> go ahead.

3553
02:19:05,369 --> 02:19:07,769
>> the city to temporarily

3554
02:19:08,640 --> 02:19:09,341
suspend story. And cultural

3555
02:19:09,341 --> 02:19:11,741
advisory board until further

3556
02:19:16,448 --> 02:19:18,448
notice.

3557
02:19:25,657 --> 02:19:27,359
>> second for refresh my

3558
02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:28,590
memory clair we suspended this

3559
02:19:28,590 --> 02:19:31,590
board once already could you

3560
02:19:32,330 --> 02:19:34,330
go through

3561
02:19:34,566 --> 02:19:35,500
>> we did suspended for a year

3562
02:19:35,500 --> 02:19:37,836
because at that time it was

3563
02:19:37,836 --> 02:19:40,539
down to one member and we held

3564
02:19:40,539 --> 02:19:42,539
meeting with

3565
02:19:43,441 --> 02:19:45,841
>> commission and members of

3566
02:19:46,645 --> 02:19:49,645
the community such like them.

3567
02:19:56,521 --> 02:19:57,288
I. Stark wrister I'm joe and I

3568
02:19:57,288 --> 02:19:59,688
think there's like 3 people

3569
02:20:00,425 --> 02:20:01,159
who came out for it we decided

3570
02:20:01,159 --> 02:20:05,359
they said they will be able to

3571
02:20:05,530 --> 02:20:06,598
find people to join them find

3572
02:20:06,598 --> 02:20:08,633
people to join the border over

3573
02:20:08,633 --> 02:20:10,268
time it has slowly climbed all

3574
02:20:10,268 --> 02:20:12,437
the way I will say the same

3575
02:20:12,437 --> 02:20:14,139
things that the board

3576
02:20:14,139 --> 02:20:14,773
discussed what we brought to

3577
02:20:14,773 --> 02:20:17,809
for the time from since I

3578
02:20:17,809 --> 02:20:19,110
think it was 2024 till now.

3579
02:20:19,110 --> 02:20:20,879
>> the things that they

3580
02:20:20,879 --> 02:20:21,513
discussed are the same things

3581
02:20:21,513 --> 02:20:23,748
that board was discussing

3582
02:20:23,748 --> 02:20:25,950
since 2019 when I first got

3583
02:20:25,950 --> 02:20:27,653
here and it was just the same

3584
02:20:27,653 --> 02:20:29,653
3 things the historic

3585
02:20:32,491 --> 02:20:34,891
designations for tipton team

3586
02:20:35,593 --> 02:20:37,796
area. So something or other

3587
02:20:37,796 --> 02:20:38,763
and so those are only things

3588
02:20:38,763 --> 02:20:39,865
that were recommended to

3589
02:20:39,865 --> 02:20:40,632
commission those times were to

3590
02:20:40,632 --> 02:20:41,333
keep those in talking with

3591
02:20:41,333 --> 02:20:43,335
development services I don't

3592
02:20:43,335 --> 02:20:44,536
know the details you have to

3593
02:20:44,536 --> 02:20:47,238
ask them. But there are so

3594
02:20:47,238 --> 02:20:48,339
many things cannot do that

3595
02:20:48,339 --> 02:20:51,709
they wanted to do by making

3596
02:20:51,709 --> 02:20:52,410
these historic designations

3597
02:20:52,410 --> 02:20:55,410
against state statute or our

3598
02:20:55,580 --> 02:20:56,882
code I'm not sure which one

3599
02:20:56,882 --> 02:20:58,516
mistry stated that think they

3600
02:20:58,516 --> 02:20:59,184
could not do certain things

3601
02:20:59,184 --> 02:20:59,852
that they wanted do in the

3602
02:20:59,852 --> 02:21:01,753
mayor they wanted to do and

3603
02:21:01,753 --> 02:21:04,923
the board just window down to

3604
02:21:04,923 --> 02:21:07,923
one member was harry camera

3605
02:21:10,228 --> 02:21:13,228
and overall summary want to

3606
02:21:24,543 --> 02:21:26,943
thank prevail. There's nothing

3607
02:21:30,849 --> 02:21:34,449
>> and that fails 3 to I'll be

3608
02:21:37,723 --> 02:21:37,990
looking for another motion.

3609
02:21:37,990 --> 02:21:38,590
It.

3610
02:21:38,590 --> 02:21:39,959
>> I moved to continue

3611
02:21:39,959 --> 02:21:40,592
ordinance number 2026 24 2nd

3612
02:21:40,592 --> 02:21:42,992
reading of SEPTEMBER 22nd

3613
02:21:44,620 --> 02:21:46,620
2026.

3614
02:21:48,300 --> 02:21:48,934
>> motion on the floor by

3615
02:21:48,934 --> 02:21:49,901
commissioner stokes to to

3616
02:21:49,901 --> 02:21:51,403
continue ordinance number 2026

3617
02:21:51,403 --> 02:21:54,403
to 24 the second reading on

3618
02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:56,640
SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2026. There's

3619
02:22:06,718 --> 02:22:08,153
nothing to that please and

3620
02:22:08,153 --> 02:22:08,886
that passes for one

3621
02:22:08,886 --> 02:22:09,555
commissioner petrova something

3622
02:22:09,555 --> 02:22:11,560
you like to comment on your

3623
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:11,690
dissension.

3624
02:22:11,690 --> 02:22:14,760
>> I just you know we can

3625
02:22:14,760 --> 02:22:16,760
continue. Suspended until

3626
02:22:22,601 --> 02:22:24,601
further notice.

3627
02:22:27,406 --> 02:22:28,907
>> moving 2226 dash 29 I need

3628
02:22:28,907 --> 02:22:31,643
motion to direct the city

3629
02:22:31,643 --> 02:22:33,712
clerk to read by title only

3630
02:22:33,712 --> 02:22:34,646
that motion on the floor

3631
02:22:34,646 --> 02:22:37,460
commissioners seconded by vice

3632
02:22:43,255 --> 02:22:45,557
mayor to that please vote.

3633
02:22:45,557 --> 02:22:47,392
>> passes 5, 0 city ordinance

3634
02:22:47,392 --> 02:22:49,361
number 2026 dash 29 an

3635
02:22:49,361 --> 02:22:50,229
ordinance of the city of north

3636
02:22:50,229 --> 02:22:51,163
port florida amending the

3637
02:22:51,163 --> 02:22:53,563
non-district budget for fiscal

3638
02:22:54,300 --> 02:22:56,267
year 2025 to 2026 for

3639
02:22:56,267 --> 02:22:57,269
increased revenue and

3640
02:22:57,269 --> 02:22:57,869
reimbursement and about

3641
02:22:57,869 --> 02:22:59,104
$200,000 providing for

3642
02:22:59,104 --> 02:22:59,671
findings providing for posting

3643
02:22:59,671 --> 02:23:00,405
providing for complex

3644
02:23:00,405 --> 02:23:02,805
providing for severability and

3645
02:23:02,908 --> 02:23:03,609
providing an affected date.

3646
02:23:03,609 --> 02:23:07,209
>> same and your this is your

3647
02:23:10,490 --> 02:23:10,682
item. Thank to department of

3648
02:23:10,682 --> 02:23:13,820
the question increase of

3649
02:23:14,953 --> 02:23:16,154
$200,000 to the fired back

3650
02:23:16,154 --> 02:23:18,957
fun. But it is to reflect it

3651
02:23:18,957 --> 02:23:21,260
sets up a additional get that

3652
02:23:21,260 --> 02:23:22,930
the sufficient budget for the

3653
02:23:22,930 --> 02:23:23,462
corresponding developer

3654
02:23:23,462 --> 02:23:24,129
reverse that payment required

3655
02:23:24,129 --> 02:23:26,529
the west village's politics

3656
02:23:28,500 --> 02:23:29,467
station developer remit based

3657
02:23:29,467 --> 02:23:31,867
on actual effect revenues

3658
02:23:33,138 --> 02:23:34,206
received we asked you to tap

3659
02:23:34,206 --> 02:23:36,207
the wand. Today was approved

3660
02:23:36,207 --> 02:23:37,176
ordinance number 2026 that we

3661
02:23:37,176 --> 02:23:37,843
not ask PRESIDENT And moved to

3662
02:23:37,843 --> 02:23:40,780
second reading on SEPTEMBER

3663
02:23:40,780 --> 02:23:40,412
22nd 2026. Thank you. MISTER

3664
02:23:40,412 --> 02:23:42,412
Mayor.

3665
02:23:45,884 --> 02:23:47,884
>> thank commission questions

3666
02:23:54,292 --> 02:23:54,659
city clerk public

3667
02:23:54,659 --> 02:23:56,659
>> close

3668
02:23:57,596 --> 02:23:58,430
>> this public hearing request

3669
02:23:58,430 --> 02:24:01,668
motion go ahead and move to

3670
02:24:01,668 --> 02:24:03,668
continue ordinance number 2026

3671
02:24:04,236 --> 02:24:07,236
dash 29 to second reading on

3672
02:24:08,173 --> 02:24:08,607
SEPTEMBER 22nd.

3673
02:24:08,607 --> 02:24:09,341
>> 2026 and.

3674
02:24:09,341 --> 02:24:12,444
>> have a motion on the floor

3675
02:24:12,444 --> 02:24:14,444
to continue ordinance 2026

3676
02:24:14,814 --> 02:24:15,714
dash 2019 2nd reading on

3677
02:24:15,714 --> 02:24:17,916
SEPTEMBER 22nd 2026 made by

3678
02:24:17,916 --> 02:24:18,584
vice mayor seconded by

3679
02:24:18,584 --> 02:24:20,584
commissioner deval there's

3680
02:24:21,190 --> 02:24:24,190
nothing to that please vote

3681
02:24:28,326 --> 02:24:29,261
that passes 5 to 0. Moving

3682
02:24:29,261 --> 02:24:31,261
resolution resolution number

3683
02:24:35,167 --> 02:24:36,301
2026 dash r dash 54. Can be

3684
02:24:36,301 --> 02:24:38,701
read by title please

3685
02:24:39,204 --> 02:24:40,500
resolution number 2026 dash r

3686
02:24:40,500 --> 02:24:40,672
dash 54 resolution of

3687
02:24:40,672 --> 02:24:43,108
the city of north port, fl

3688
02:24:43,108 --> 02:24:44,243
amending city commission

3689
02:24:44,243 --> 02:24:46,111
policy 2020 dash 0, related to

3690
02:24:46,111 --> 02:24:47,446
the issuance of ceremony

3691
02:24:47,446 --> 02:24:48,130
items, including skew the city

3692
02:24:48,130 --> 02:24:48,747
providing for complex

3693
02:24:48,747 --> 02:24:51,147
providing for severability and

3694
02:24:52,351 --> 02:24:54,751
providing an affected date.

3695
02:24:55,354 --> 02:24:56,210
>> thank you commission

3696
02:24:56,210 --> 02:24:58,421
questions are you introduce

3697
02:24:59,558 --> 02:25:01,459
the item go ahead and decided

3698
02:25:01,459 --> 02:25:02,661
to commission before and this

3699
02:25:02,661 --> 02:25:04,496
is the resolution update the

3700
02:25:04,496 --> 02:25:07,266
policy based on the commission

3701
02:25:07,266 --> 02:25:09,235
direction I did speak during

3702
02:25:09,235 --> 02:25:10,235
the one on ones and our that

3703
02:25:10,235 --> 02:25:10,902
commissioner steps difference

3704
02:25:10,902 --> 02:25:12,204
up to my attention and that

3705
02:25:12,204 --> 02:25:15,804
was that I had to be

3706
02:25:16,975 --> 02:25:18,244
presented. In NOVEMBER JUNE

3707
02:25:18,244 --> 02:25:18,944
and NOVEMBER, which looking it

3708
02:25:18,944 --> 02:25:19,645
would be after the years that

3709
02:25:19,645 --> 02:25:22,247
we have an election year that

3710
02:25:22,247 --> 02:25:24,160
commissioners will be leaving.

3711
02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:24,649
So I did include a motion on

3712
02:25:24,649 --> 02:25:25,517
your suggest emotions to

3713
02:25:25,517 --> 02:25:28,517
change that inside this policy

3714
02:25:28,687 --> 02:25:32,287
to have it presented and the

3715
02:25:36,562 --> 02:25:37,563
months of MARCH and OCTOBER.

3716
02:25:37,563 --> 02:25:38,563
>> commission

3717
02:25:38,563 --> 02:25:39,264
>> questions commissioners

3718
02:25:39,264 --> 02:25:43,464
yeah I just want to thank you

3719
02:25:43,535 --> 02:25:44,836
city clerk this will allow you

3720
02:25:44,836 --> 02:25:47,406
know for it not to interfere,

3721
02:25:47,406 --> 02:25:48,907
so we would have a situation

3722
02:25:48,907 --> 02:25:50,308
if we've new commissioners on

3723
02:25:50,308 --> 02:25:53,308
when when we were actually

3724
02:25:56,348 --> 02:25:57,480
same. You know issuing.

3725
02:25:57,480 --> 02:25:58,384
>> key to cities, someone and

3726
02:25:58,384 --> 02:26:01,521
they MAY not have had anything

3727
02:26:01,521 --> 02:26:03,550
to do with the actual vote we

3728
02:26:03,550 --> 02:26:03,689
want to do is kind of just

3729
02:26:03,689 --> 02:26:06,689
moves couple months so so

3730
02:26:06,992 --> 02:26:08,227
thank make sense.

3731
02:26:08,227 --> 02:26:10,227
>> somebody else public

3732
02:26:11,330 --> 02:26:13,730
comment. There's not. Close

3733
02:26:21,273 --> 02:26:21,974
this public request, a motion.

3734
02:26:21,974 --> 02:26:24,374
>> solutions number when when

3735
02:26:25,378 --> 02:26:26,450
he or as result.

3736
02:26:26,450 --> 02:26:26,678
>> there should be a second

3737
02:26:26,678 --> 02:26:28,678
motion our commissioners

3738
02:26:28,815 --> 02:26:31,815
about. To make the changes

3739
02:26:34,587 --> 02:26:37,587
that I just don't tell.

3740
02:26:41,593 --> 02:26:43,593
>> just

3741
02:26:51,536 --> 02:26:52,605
>> we stand for.

3742
02:26:52,605 --> 02:26:54,730
>> past present one has the

3743
02:26:54,730 --> 02:26:54,907
dates the months to present

3744
02:26:54,907 --> 02:26:55,574
that NOVEMBER, so I changed so

3745
02:26:55,574 --> 02:26:58,574
there's a second suggest a

3746
02:27:00,580 --> 02:27:02,381
motion on there.

3747
02:27:02,381 --> 02:27:04,182
>> why move without those

3748
02:27:04,182 --> 02:27:06,182
solutions over 2026

3749
02:27:06,552 --> 02:27:09,552
>> your mic on. It's flashing

3750
02:27:21,367 --> 02:27:23,367
over.

3751
02:27:24,403 --> 02:27:26,803
>> to resolution 20 to 26 show

3752
02:27:29,342 --> 02:27:31,760
54 as amending section 3 seem

3753
02:27:31,760 --> 02:27:33,245
read the city commission will

3754
02:27:33,245 --> 02:27:34,280
consider a complete qualifying

3755
02:27:34,280 --> 02:27:35,415
request for a key to the city

3756
02:27:35,415 --> 02:27:36,482
twice per year during his

3757
02:27:36,482 --> 02:27:38,482
schedule city commission

3758
02:27:38,617 --> 02:27:39,284
meeting in the months of

3759
02:27:39,284 --> 02:27:41,684
FEBRUARY and SEPTEMBER for

3760
02:27:42,221 --> 02:27:42,889
presentation in MARCH and

3761
02:27:42,889 --> 02:27:46,489
OCTOBER the key to the city

3762
02:27:47,360 --> 02:27:50,960
MAY only be issued upon a

3763
02:27:56,101 --> 02:27:56,835
>> thank motion on the spent

3764
02:27:56,835 --> 02:27:57,569
seconded by commissioner duval

3765
02:27:57,569 --> 02:28:00,569
there's nothing to have please

3766
02:28:14,753 --> 02:28:18,353
vote. And passes. Moving us. I

3767
02:28:20,359 --> 02:28:22,359
26 dash 0, 9, 7, discussion

3768
02:28:23,196 --> 02:28:25,596
and possible action regarding

3769
02:28:26,198 --> 02:28:26,866
setting a donation of

3770
02:28:26,866 --> 02:28:28,866
$8,534.32 from the kiwanis

3771
02:28:29,100 --> 02:28:31,100
club of port.

3772
02:28:32,938 --> 02:28:34,741
>> for the purchase and

3773
02:28:34,741 --> 02:28:35,441
installation of displays of

3774
02:28:35,441 --> 02:28:37,841
its and associated materials

3775
02:28:39,645 --> 02:28:41,800
for storybook stroll pine

3776
02:28:41,800 --> 02:28:43,800
bark, located 4, by 6

3777
02:28:46,252 --> 02:28:46,552
mackinnon drive north 3, 4, 2,

3778
02:28:46,552 --> 02:28:48,870
8, 7,

3779
02:28:48,870 --> 02:28:49,389
>> city manager this is your

3780
02:28:49,389 --> 02:28:52,389
think that's based really fast

3781
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:54,860
you choose to accept that a

3782
02:28:54,860 --> 02:28:59,600
double bye for to sit on the

3783
02:29:00,660 --> 02:29:01,200
kiwanis club of poor for the

3784
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:02,901
purchases later this play is

3785
02:29:02,901 --> 02:29:03,635
that it's an associate of

3786
02:29:03,635 --> 02:29:06,635
materials is start pro located

3787
02:29:06,638 --> 02:29:07,340
4, 6, come and drive into

3788
02:29:07,340 --> 02:29:08,410
work. 4, 2, 7, it would have

3789
02:29:08,410 --> 02:29:09,876
answer any questions you MAY

3790
02:29:09,876 --> 02:29:11,876
have.

3791
02:29:16,382 --> 02:29:17,116
>> questions commissioners.

3792
02:29:17,116 --> 02:29:20,116
>> vice thank you MISTER Mayor

3793
02:29:20,686 --> 02:29:22,221
just just a comment. This

3794
02:29:22,221 --> 02:29:25,821
program has been a long time

3795
02:29:26,259 --> 02:29:27,126
coming and I'm delighted that

3796
02:29:27,126 --> 02:29:30,126
it's happening and I think

3797
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:33,132
kevin park is exactly the

3798
02:29:33,132 --> 02:29:34,433
right place to have the

3799
02:29:34,433 --> 02:29:35,301
storybook straw I've seen them

3800
02:29:35,301 --> 02:29:37,203
in other places and they're

3801
02:29:37,203 --> 02:29:37,870
really pretty wonderful so

3802
02:29:37,870 --> 02:29:41,708
thank you took a lot us for

3803
02:29:41,708 --> 02:29:42,975
that donation.

3804
02:29:42,975 --> 02:29:45,375
>> just for a correction

3805
02:29:48,347 --> 02:29:51,347
that's pine mackinnon drive to

3806
02:29:51,917 --> 02:29:52,619
>> kevin

3807
02:29:52,619 --> 02:29:55,619
>> if there's nobody else do

3808
02:30:07,433 --> 02:30:09,735
we have any public comment.

3809
02:30:09,735 --> 02:30:11,704
>> commissioners about 6 years

3810
02:30:11,704 --> 02:30:13,906
ago I was at a columbus

3811
02:30:13,906 --> 02:30:16,306
convention and that's where

3812
02:30:16,709 --> 02:30:17,777
were talking about storybook

3813
02:30:17,777 --> 02:30:18,878
stroll I had never heard of

3814
02:30:18,878 --> 02:30:19,946
that before and all of a

3815
02:30:19,946 --> 02:30:20,646
sudden as I was sitting there

3816
02:30:20,646 --> 02:30:23,816
I was like oh my goodness we

3817
02:30:23,816 --> 02:30:24,551
can do this in port and while

3818
02:30:24,551 --> 02:30:28,151
it shouldn't take that long to

3819
02:30:28,187 --> 02:30:28,854
come up with GOD. 8 $9,000 we

3820
02:30:28,854 --> 02:30:31,254
have things like hurricanes

3821
02:30:31,591 --> 02:30:34,591
and other things. That have

3822
02:30:34,693 --> 02:30:35,728
prevented us from getting it.

3823
02:30:35,728 --> 02:30:39,328
The money to you guys quicker,

3824
02:30:40,399 --> 02:30:41,660
but we did apply for some

3825
02:30:41,660 --> 02:30:43,570
grants and I'd like to tell

3826
02:30:43,570 --> 02:30:45,405
you that the kids that live in

3827
02:30:45,405 --> 02:30:46,539
that line park neighborhood go

3828
02:30:46,539 --> 02:30:49,539
to glen allen and lamar

3829
02:30:49,775 --> 02:30:51,775
elementary school. That's

3830
02:30:53,379 --> 02:30:54,113
they're at 50 to 80% free and

3831
02:30:54,113 --> 02:30:56,716
reduced lunch, that means that

3832
02:30:56,716 --> 02:30:57,951
they are already getting help

3833
02:30:57,951 --> 02:31:00,620
with a reading and math and

3834
02:31:00,620 --> 02:31:01,321
science because there

3835
02:31:01,321 --> 02:31:04,321
potentially a little bit the

3836
02:31:04,624 --> 02:31:06,250
fish and in that. So we like

3837
02:31:06,250 --> 02:31:09,610
that story but still well off

3838
02:31:09,610 --> 02:31:11,897
for them, a free book. It will

3839
02:31:11,897 --> 02:31:14,897
offer them the ability to

3840
02:31:14,900 --> 02:31:16,235
read. Something different we

3841
02:31:16,235 --> 02:31:18,804
love the fact that we're able

3842
02:31:18,804 --> 02:31:21,474
to partner with the city parks

3843
02:31:21,474 --> 02:31:22,508
and recreation and we also

3844
02:31:22,508 --> 02:31:26,108
would love in the future when

3845
02:31:26,312 --> 02:31:27,130
it is actually built have the

3846
02:31:27,130 --> 02:31:30,613
day for kids well the kiwanis

3847
02:31:31,518 --> 02:31:32,752
club give out books and our

3848
02:31:32,752 --> 02:31:34,353
PRESIDENT Jacqueline is here

3849
02:31:34,353 --> 02:31:37,353
she actually has thank very

3850
02:31:39,859 --> 02:31:40,559
much for consideration.

3851
02:31:40,559 --> 02:31:41,293
>> you can turn that over to

3852
02:31:41,293 --> 02:31:44,893
the commission we will keep it

3853
02:31:45,298 --> 02:31:46,320
in good keeping.

3854
02:31:46,320 --> 02:31:46,666
>> anything else you would you

3855
02:31:46,666 --> 02:31:50,266
like to say a few words.

3856
02:31:53,572 --> 02:31:54,673
>> thank you so much for

3857
02:31:54,673 --> 02:31:57,730
setting our should parking

3858
02:31:58,678 --> 02:32:01,480
wrecks and everyone thank you.

3859
02:32:01,480 --> 02:32:03,820
>> if we city clerk if we put

3860
02:32:03,820 --> 02:32:03,783
them on our next proclamation

3861
02:32:03,783 --> 02:32:04,250
meeting they have a big check

3862
02:32:04,250 --> 02:32:06,250
that they would

3863
02:32:10,590 --> 02:32:11,324
>> like to. Is that too. Parks

3864
02:32:11,324 --> 02:32:12,250
and on that day when we do our

3865
02:32:12,250 --> 02:32:15,250
wards proclamations if we can

3866
02:32:16,496 --> 02:32:18,896
schedule that. Thank you.

3867
02:32:21,735 --> 02:32:23,636
Request a motion.

3868
02:32:23,636 --> 02:32:26,636
>> I moved to accept a

3869
02:32:28,875 --> 02:32:30,810
donation of a $1534.32 from

3870
02:32:30,810 --> 02:32:32,440
the kiwanis club of north port

3871
02:32:32,440 --> 02:32:33,346
for the purchase and

3872
02:32:33,346 --> 02:32:35,346
installation of display

3873
02:32:37,830 --> 02:32:37,484
exhibits and associated

3874
02:32:37,484 --> 02:32:38,151
materials.

3875
02:32:38,151 --> 02:32:40,551
>> to support the storybook

3876
02:32:42,288 --> 02:32:45,888
stroll at pine park located at

3877
02:32:47,627 --> 02:32:48,861
5, 4, 5, 5, 6 mckibben drive.

3878
02:32:48,861 --> 02:32:50,730
>> and the motion on the floor

3879
02:32:50,730 --> 02:32:51,664
made by vice mayor to have a

3880
02:32:51,664 --> 02:32:52,498
second serious second and a

3881
02:32:52,498 --> 02:32:54,898
second by commissioner stokes

3882
02:32:58,504 --> 02:33:01,504
there's nothing to that please

3883
02:33:01,842 --> 02:33:05,442
and that passes 5 to thank you

3884
02:33:06,712 --> 02:33:07,447
very much on club of port.

3885
02:33:07,447 --> 02:33:11,470
>> but on to item b 26 dash 1,

3886
02:33:12,786 --> 02:33:14,786
0, 2, 1, discussion and

3887
02:33:15,521 --> 02:33:16,156
possible action regarding art

3888
02:33:16,156 --> 02:33:16,856
advisory board a

3889
02:33:16,856 --> 02:33:18,425
recommendation memorandum for

3890
02:33:18,425 --> 02:33:19,580
halloween the sculpture

3891
02:33:19,580 --> 02:33:21,458
project. MISTER Says your

3892
02:33:22,462 --> 02:33:24,462
item.

3893
02:33:27,200 --> 02:33:28,401
>> MARCH 2620 24 commission

3894
02:33:28,401 --> 02:33:29,602
this art installation by

3895
02:33:29,602 --> 02:33:32,839
MISTER How again and we hate

3896
02:33:32,839 --> 02:33:35,239
him to payments about $13,695

3897
02:33:36,842 --> 02:33:40,513
each so he's been paid and a

3898
02:33:40,513 --> 02:33:42,913
total 27,390 $1000 he has not

3899
02:33:45,618 --> 02:33:46,553
completed the project. So that

3900
02:33:46,553 --> 02:33:47,220
our board recommended that

3901
02:33:47,220 --> 02:33:47,854
commission direct the city

3902
02:33:47,854 --> 02:33:50,723
attorney to take see what

3903
02:33:50,723 --> 02:33:54,323
action can be taken. Get the

3904
02:33:54,927 --> 02:33:56,863
money back from MISTER Hall of

3905
02:33:56,863 --> 02:33:58,164
>> okay has she made any types

3906
02:33:58,164 --> 02:34:00,800
of and talent. I mean is he in

3907
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:02,636
the middle of the process had

3908
02:34:02,636 --> 02:34:03,903
do we have any communications

3909
02:34:03,903 --> 02:34:04,971
from yes we do I don't know

3910
02:34:04,971 --> 02:34:08,307
the exact details on some of

3911
02:34:08,307 --> 02:34:09,900
you might know about this or.

3912
02:34:09,900 --> 02:34:09,642
>> MISTER Allen is that he is

3913
02:34:09,642 --> 02:34:12,642
not able to complete the

3914
02:34:13,880 --> 02:34:14,547
project at all okay so it

3915
02:34:14,547 --> 02:34:15,248
could be that could be our

3916
02:34:15,248 --> 02:34:18,248
meeting the course of action

3917
02:34:18,318 --> 02:34:18,952
absolutely no that's fine. I

3918
02:34:18,952 --> 02:34:21,321
just didn't know what the

3919
02:34:21,321 --> 02:34:21,888
process we were at and

3920
02:34:21,888 --> 02:34:23,888
commission questions

3921
02:34:28,961 --> 02:34:31,361
discussions. City clerk public

3922
02:34:34,300 --> 02:34:35,401
I'm going to request a motion.

3923
02:34:35,401 --> 02:34:36,335
>> I make it go and move to

3924
02:34:36,335 --> 02:34:37,370
direct city attorney doesn't

3925
02:34:37,370 --> 02:34:39,437
demand letter MISTER Halligan

3926
02:34:40,720 --> 02:34:41,410
for the incomplete project.

3927
02:34:41,410 --> 02:34:41,708
>> have a motion on the floor

3928
02:34:41,708 --> 02:34:44,108
made by commissioner spoke

3929
02:34:44,444 --> 02:34:46,844
just second. Second seconded

3930
02:34:47,380 --> 02:34:50,380
by vice mayor. If there's

3931
02:34:54,221 --> 02:34:57,221
nothing to please passes 5 to

3932
02:35:03,763 --> 02:35:04,364
0. Moving on to item 26 dash

3933
02:35:04,364 --> 02:35:06,132
0, 2, 5, discussion and

3934
02:35:06,132 --> 02:35:08,132
possible action regarding

3935
02:35:08,668 --> 02:35:09,236
parks and recreation advisory

3936
02:35:09,236 --> 02:35:11,236
board recommendation

3937
02:35:12,439 --> 02:35:12,906
memorandum for canine club the

3938
02:35:12,906 --> 02:35:14,906
rainbow bridge.

3939
02:35:16,343 --> 02:35:18,311
>> and circle or wetland

3940
02:35:18,311 --> 02:35:19,445
conservation.

3941
02:35:19,445 --> 02:35:20,130
>> pass this is your guess

3942
02:35:20,130 --> 02:35:20,747
this is also another

3943
02:35:20,747 --> 02:35:21,414
memorandum from the parks and

3944
02:35:21,414 --> 02:35:23,814
recreation advisory board I

3945
02:35:24,170 --> 02:35:27,170
believe miller does have more

3946
02:35:32,859 --> 02:35:34,859
information on this.

3947
02:35:35,929 --> 02:35:36,629
>> is o k the other a little

3948
02:35:36,629 --> 02:35:39,290
sand easy information keeper

3949
02:35:43,103 --> 02:35:43,736
that school.

3950
02:35:43,736 --> 02:35:44,437
>> patricia his assistant

3951
02:35:44,437 --> 02:35:47,437
parks and recreation as well

3952
02:35:48,975 --> 02:35:50,944
as liaison to recognize

3953
02:35:50,944 --> 02:35:51,645
report. 2 items came forward

3954
02:35:51,645 --> 02:35:54,147
to are correct advisory board

3955
02:35:54,147 --> 02:35:54,881
from the public one

3956
02:35:54,881 --> 02:35:57,550
conservation area for the well

3957
02:35:57,550 --> 02:36:00,153
is located behind the circle

3958
02:36:00,153 --> 02:36:02,588
of I'm asking requesting that

3959
02:36:02,588 --> 02:36:03,322
area. He said as a

3960
02:36:03,322 --> 02:36:05,722
conservation zone. Through our

3961
02:36:08,950 --> 02:36:09,196
planning and zoning MARCH

3962
02:36:09,196 --> 02:36:10,397
basically would be the start

3963
02:36:10,397 --> 02:36:11,532
of preserving some of that

3964
02:36:11,532 --> 02:36:15,132
area we did speak public works

3965
02:36:16,350 --> 02:36:16,636
and it is owned by road

3966
02:36:16,636 --> 02:36:17,337
drainage and there's no

3967
02:36:17,337 --> 02:36:18,380
intended use for parcel so it

3968
02:36:18,380 --> 02:36:21,638
would not affect them we were

3969
02:36:23,376 --> 02:36:25,278
to I second item is a rainbow

3970
02:36:25,278 --> 02:36:26,113
bridge, another item brought

3971
02:36:26,113 --> 02:36:28,513
forward by community member

3972
02:36:29,582 --> 02:36:30,884
and presented to the park or

3973
02:36:30,884 --> 02:36:31,585
recognize report. The was a

3974
02:36:31,585 --> 02:36:34,585
very large scale one located

3975
02:36:36,560 --> 02:36:37,958
in north carolina and it had

3976
02:36:37,958 --> 02:36:38,692
some problems with the initial

3977
02:36:38,692 --> 02:36:41,692
projection they looking at the

3978
02:36:41,861 --> 02:36:43,563
white house you buy a little

3979
02:36:43,563 --> 02:36:44,297
part. During times of high

3980
02:36:44,297 --> 02:36:46,365
water hurricanes we can have a

3981
02:36:46,365 --> 02:36:48,635
lot of items that are you know

3982
02:36:48,635 --> 02:36:49,303
last missing that type of

3983
02:36:49,303 --> 02:36:52,903
thing. So we kind of talked

3984
02:36:53,840 --> 02:36:55,809
through the process and they

3985
02:36:55,809 --> 02:36:57,311
kind of landed on a small

3986
02:36:57,311 --> 02:36:57,978
footbridge that would be

3987
02:36:57,978 --> 02:37:00,978
located in the canine club

3988
02:37:02,382 --> 02:37:02,982
that's already existing the

3989
02:37:02,982 --> 02:37:03,650
clock's to be purchased

3990
02:37:03,650 --> 02:37:04,384
through the city's tribute

3991
02:37:04,384 --> 02:37:07,384
existing program where you can

3992
02:37:10,156 --> 02:37:11,491
do more lies your pat at that

3993
02:37:11,491 --> 02:37:12,225
so I'm looking approximately a

3994
02:37:12,225 --> 02:37:14,927
$1500 cost we would be looking

3995
02:37:14,927 --> 02:37:15,596
to probably locally. You know

3996
02:37:15,596 --> 02:37:17,996
get some donations towards

3997
02:37:19,980 --> 02:37:19,832
those materials.

3998
02:37:19,832 --> 02:37:23,432
>> I had a question about that

3999
02:37:24,700 --> 02:37:24,804
because I've seen some of

4000
02:37:24,804 --> 02:37:25,471
these and pictures of and with

4001
02:37:25,471 --> 02:37:28,471
that little foot bridge in

4002
02:37:32,112 --> 02:37:34,460
now. What is allow for the

4003
02:37:34,460 --> 02:37:36,250
citizens because put their

4004
02:37:36,250 --> 02:37:38,251
memorandum of collars from

4005
02:37:38,251 --> 02:37:39,253
their pets on that to display

4006
02:37:39,253 --> 02:37:41,187
when we allow that to be able

4007
02:37:41,187 --> 02:37:42,256
to do that we currently have

4008
02:37:42,256 --> 02:37:43,256
ordinance that no personal

4009
02:37:43,256 --> 02:37:44,691
property is permitted to be

4010
02:37:44,691 --> 02:37:45,358
left in park, so that would be

4011
02:37:45,358 --> 02:37:46,590
prohibitive about ordinance

4012
02:37:46,590 --> 02:37:50,129
which is why we align it with

4013
02:37:50,129 --> 02:37:50,831
the tribute program.

4014
02:37:50,831 --> 02:37:51,531
>> where they could actually

4015
02:37:51,531 --> 02:37:54,531
purchased the and installed a

4016
02:37:56,202 --> 02:37:56,869
plaque on the actual bridge.

4017
02:37:56,869 --> 02:37:57,604
>> we MAY have to look into

4018
02:37:57,604 --> 02:38:01,204
that a little bit further down

4019
02:38:02,760 --> 02:38:02,776
the road because I don't want

4020
02:38:02,776 --> 02:38:04,177
to be like ok. Yes you've got

4021
02:38:04,177 --> 02:38:05,679
to get plaque from parks and

4022
02:38:05,679 --> 02:38:09,416
rec it MAY not mean as much to

4023
02:38:09,416 --> 02:38:10,116
them as leaving the caller

4024
02:38:10,116 --> 02:38:10,850
there for other participants,

4025
02:38:10,850 --> 02:38:14,888
so we'll look into that in the

4026
02:38:14,888 --> 02:38:16,990
future. The the other one that

4027
02:38:16,990 --> 02:38:18,758
I had to about the

4028
02:38:18,758 --> 02:38:19,459
conservation area feel that

4029
02:38:19,459 --> 02:38:20,860
that's a great opportunity to

4030
02:38:20,860 --> 02:38:21,561
be able to utilize his

4031
02:38:21,561 --> 02:38:23,363
property and just leave it to

4032
02:38:23,363 --> 02:38:24,310
be and let nature take over.

4033
02:38:24,310 --> 02:38:26,633
You know just leave it like

4034
02:38:26,633 --> 02:38:27,367
that because it does it is

4035
02:38:27,367 --> 02:38:30,270
part of the circle of our so I

4036
02:38:30,270 --> 02:38:32,205
mean. I appreciate that for

4037
02:38:32,205 --> 02:38:34,605
for this coming up.

4038
02:38:35,709 --> 02:38:37,709
Commissioner ball.

4039
02:38:41,181 --> 02:38:44,181
>> what but everything staff I

4040
02:38:46,553 --> 02:38:47,254
asked the ball. The rebel

4041
02:38:47,254 --> 02:38:50,724
ridge. You know about cost to

4042
02:38:50,724 --> 02:38:53,930
the city of maintenance. You

4043
02:38:53,930 --> 02:38:53,793
know we've got to pay bill has

4044
02:38:53,793 --> 02:38:57,393
staff asked them around it is

4045
02:38:57,831 --> 02:39:02,310
one of the bay. I was assured

4046
02:39:05,138 --> 02:39:08,738
by staff that the. Items baugh

4047
02:39:12,279 --> 02:39:12,946
from city. In people's pets to

4048
02:39:12,946 --> 02:39:16,546
be placed on the grid when

4049
02:39:17,985 --> 02:39:20,220
colder those costs. You know I

4050
02:39:20,220 --> 02:39:20,854
was originally against israeli

4051
02:39:20,854 --> 02:39:21,454
rebel ridge just because

4052
02:39:21,454 --> 02:39:23,757
maintenance of the cost

4053
02:39:23,757 --> 02:39:25,757
whatever, but todd.

4054
02:39:26,193 --> 02:39:29,793
Staff advised me that would be

4055
02:39:34,367 --> 02:39:36,767
color. The second conservation

4056
02:39:37,471 --> 02:39:40,400
is basically a drain behind

4057
02:39:40,400 --> 02:39:43,400
and you know talked with.

4058
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:46,747
Citizens as part of certain

4059
02:39:46,747 --> 02:39:48,381
will honor it would be you

4060
02:39:48,381 --> 02:39:51,381
know walk around there just.

4061
02:39:52,319 --> 02:39:54,719
Article. Repose reflection to

4062
02:39:55,356 --> 02:39:58,825
be added to so they are so I

4063
02:39:58,825 --> 02:40:01,825
think that's a good thing.

4064
02:40:02,830 --> 02:40:04,830
That's vice mayor.

4065
02:40:04,932 --> 02:40:07,330
>> thank you MISTER Mayor I I

4066
02:40:07,330 --> 02:40:08,435
would suggest to ever wants to

4067
02:40:08,435 --> 02:40:11,438
make a motion on this item

4068
02:40:11,438 --> 02:40:12,139
that we separate the they

4069
02:40:12,139 --> 02:40:15,139
might be a little different,

4070
02:40:15,543 --> 02:40:18,645
you know do one on the rainbow

4071
02:40:18,645 --> 02:40:19,813
bridge and one on the wetland

4072
02:40:19,813 --> 02:40:22,213
conservation. I think the

4073
02:40:22,716 --> 02:40:23,384
wetland conservation I also

4074
02:40:23,384 --> 02:40:25,784
have chatted with multiple

4075
02:40:26,720 --> 02:40:30,320
people on that end. And I

4076
02:40:31,391 --> 02:40:32,192
agree for me it's a

4077
02:40:32,192 --> 02:40:34,592
no-brainer. The rainbow bridge

4078
02:40:37,970 --> 02:40:40,697
I have mixed feelings so. I

4079
02:40:41,635 --> 02:40:42,669
like the approach of tying it

4080
02:40:42,669 --> 02:40:43,337
into our tribute program

4081
02:40:43,337 --> 02:40:46,337
because it would help find

4082
02:40:48,242 --> 02:40:49,310
that.

4083
02:40:49,310 --> 02:40:52,379
>> but I but I also get that

4084
02:40:52,379 --> 02:40:54,215
people might want to leave a

4085
02:40:54,215 --> 02:40:54,915
color their particularly on

4086
02:40:54,915 --> 02:40:55,582
that I do I'm very interested

4087
02:40:55,582 --> 02:40:57,785
in what other commissioners

4088
02:40:57,785 --> 02:40:58,519
have to say.

4089
02:40:58,519 --> 02:41:01,589
>> a little on the fence about

4090
02:41:01,589 --> 02:41:03,589
that.

4091
02:41:04,858 --> 02:41:05,425
>> commissioner thank you

4092
02:41:05,425 --> 02:41:06,260
mayor. I concur with

4093
02:41:06,260 --> 02:41:08,260
commissioner vice mayor

4094
02:41:14,568 --> 02:41:16,968
london. Time separating the 2.

4095
02:41:19,473 --> 02:41:21,474
And I lowering I have a

4096
02:41:21,474 --> 02:41:22,976
question all buying by our

4097
02:41:22,976 --> 02:41:25,976
citizens, you know play so

4098
02:41:28,382 --> 02:41:29,550
like whatever call it.

4099
02:41:29,550 --> 02:41:30,617
>> to place up there and yet

4100
02:41:30,617 --> 02:41:31,452
we've the city have to

4101
02:41:31,452 --> 02:41:33,987
maintain that and do all this

4102
02:41:33,987 --> 02:41:36,987
work at the taxpayers money.

4103
02:41:39,159 --> 02:41:41,940
At tax payers expense. So what

4104
02:41:41,940 --> 02:41:41,762
are only commission and duval

4105
02:41:41,762 --> 02:41:42,929
the staff assured him that

4106
02:41:42,929 --> 02:41:45,929
there would recording of the

4107
02:41:49,136 --> 02:41:49,837
cost. But this venue but it

4108
02:41:49,837 --> 02:41:51,171
small team at how do we know

4109
02:41:51,171 --> 02:41:53,571
for sure happens tomorrow.

4110
02:41:56,777 --> 02:41:57,778
People not be interested

4111
02:41:57,778 --> 02:41:59,646
>> doing I think we have a

4112
02:41:59,646 --> 02:42:00,580
good market in people who

4113
02:42:00,580 --> 02:42:02,616
frequent the canine club

4114
02:42:02,616 --> 02:42:04,510
already however if there was

4115
02:42:04,510 --> 02:42:05,352
not the lumber that would be

4116
02:42:05,352 --> 02:42:06,219
our asked would be for

4117
02:42:06,219 --> 02:42:09,219
donations from some of our

4118
02:42:10,457 --> 02:42:11,491
local building. Organizations

4119
02:42:11,491 --> 02:42:13,360
and that would could be used

4120
02:42:13,360 --> 02:42:14,494
in other ways within the park

4121
02:42:14,494 --> 02:42:16,430
system, there's always words

4122
02:42:16,430 --> 02:42:17,164
that have to be replaced on

4123
02:42:17,164 --> 02:42:17,831
boardwalks are other things so

4124
02:42:17,831 --> 02:42:21,301
there wasn't it would be an

4125
02:42:21,301 --> 02:42:23,537
easy removal itself. It's 68

4126
02:42:23,537 --> 02:42:27,137
drive bridge. It's not a a

4127
02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:32,100
very large composition.

4128
02:42:33,470 --> 02:42:36,470
>> but the if you cross

4129
02:42:37,351 --> 02:42:37,952
bridges in the city and to

4130
02:42:37,952 --> 02:42:40,352
maintain and prepare or

4131
02:42:41,755 --> 02:42:42,356
reconstruct. We've seen that

4132
02:42:42,356 --> 02:42:45,356
those costs can be very

4133
02:42:47,161 --> 02:42:48,895
expense. So I'm just like come

4134
02:42:48,895 --> 02:42:49,596
on the fence with this one as

4135
02:42:49,596 --> 02:42:53,196
well hoping to see what other

4136
02:42:55,102 --> 02:42:57,170
commissions. Have to but it's

4137
02:42:57,170 --> 02:43:00,170
known $2 it's just more of

4138
02:43:00,641 --> 02:43:01,442
responsibility of our.

4139
02:43:01,442 --> 02:43:05,420
Possible use of our tax payers

4140
02:43:08,249 --> 02:43:09,283
money for project.

4141
02:43:09,283 --> 02:43:11,518
>> all the way that I look at

4142
02:43:11,518 --> 02:43:12,353
it is just like if we put up a

4143
02:43:12,353 --> 02:43:13,200
swing set up are you know,

4144
02:43:13,200 --> 02:43:16,200
we've got to maintain that

4145
02:43:17,258 --> 02:43:18,458
take care of that we've got

4146
02:43:18,458 --> 02:43:20,294
monumental bunches out there

4147
02:43:20,294 --> 02:43:21,362
in memory of so and so you

4148
02:43:21,362 --> 02:43:23,430
know I I believe that the

4149
02:43:23,430 --> 02:43:24,640
maintenance on this is maybe

4150
02:43:24,640 --> 02:43:24,765
payment every 5 years if

4151
02:43:24,765 --> 02:43:28,365
needed and we need around it

4152
02:43:29,302 --> 02:43:29,970
so you're talking about a 2

4153
02:43:29,970 --> 02:43:30,637
minute so I I don't see the

4154
02:43:30,637 --> 02:43:33,240
big issue on maintenance on

4155
02:43:33,240 --> 02:43:33,941
this itself, you know and and

4156
02:43:33,941 --> 02:43:36,177
coming down across time, I'm

4157
02:43:36,177 --> 02:43:36,777
sure a volunteer would come in

4158
02:43:36,777 --> 02:43:39,777
and thank the thing and

4159
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:41,682
probably half an hour so

4160
02:43:41,682 --> 02:43:42,316
that's why I look at it I

4161
02:43:42,316 --> 02:43:43,160
think it's I think it's a

4162
02:43:43,160 --> 02:43:44,818
great idea and and we've got

4163
02:43:44,818 --> 02:43:45,520
pet owners out there that

4164
02:43:45,520 --> 02:43:48,520
maybe a little subsection of

4165
02:43:48,689 --> 02:43:49,223
our community that really like

4166
02:43:49,223 --> 02:43:51,623
I understand is not

4167
02:43:52,493 --> 02:43:53,600
everybody's cup of tea, but

4168
02:43:53,600 --> 02:43:53,761
I'm a pat or I would

4169
02:43:53,761 --> 02:43:56,463
appreciate it, you know they

4170
02:43:56,463 --> 02:43:57,664
for my pat.

4171
02:43:57,664 --> 02:43:59,566
>> and just to be clear it's

4172
02:43:59,566 --> 02:44:00,300
not a bridge that's

4173
02:44:00,300 --> 02:44:02,700
constructed for certain levels

4174
02:44:03,270 --> 02:44:03,904
of traffic it's it's more of a

4175
02:44:03,904 --> 02:44:04,805
decorative small and it's

4176
02:44:04,805 --> 02:44:05,540
going to be said not where

4177
02:44:05,540 --> 02:44:09,140
people would you know using it

4178
02:44:12,847 --> 02:44:15,247
to cross a waterway.

4179
02:44:16,650 --> 02:44:17,840
>> do we have leading public

4180
02:44:17,840 --> 02:44:17,785
comment yet.

4181
02:44:17,785 --> 02:44:18,485
>> there is no public comment

4182
02:44:18,485 --> 02:44:20,885
and there are 2 suggest

4183
02:44:22,556 --> 02:44:24,910
emotions for each

4184
02:44:24,910 --> 02:44:27,691
>> you're ahead of the game or

4185
02:44:27,828 --> 02:44:28,529
I am going to request

4186
02:44:28,529 --> 02:44:31,529
emotionally. I'll take a shot

4187
02:44:32,867 --> 02:44:34,867
one of

4188
02:44:35,235 --> 02:44:37,739
>> and that to address city

4189
02:44:37,739 --> 02:44:38,538
manager to evaluate placing

4190
02:44:38,538 --> 02:44:40,675
the wetland portion of parcel

4191
02:44:40,675 --> 02:44:42,675
identification number 0, 9, 7,

4192
02:44:45,646 --> 02:44:46,314
9, 0, 0, 2000 under

4193
02:44:46,314 --> 02:44:49,314
conservation as part of the

4194
02:44:50,684 --> 02:44:53,387
circle of honor including any

4195
02:44:53,387 --> 02:44:53,988
necessary legal environmental

4196
02:44:53,988 --> 02:44:55,988
survey land management

4197
02:44:57,124 --> 02:44:57,792
maintenance and budget

4198
02:44:57,792 --> 02:45:00,192
considerations and to bring

4199
02:45:00,694 --> 02:45:01,361
the proposed implementation

4200
02:45:01,361 --> 02:45:01,896
that to the city commission

4201
02:45:01,896 --> 02:45:03,896
for consideration.

4202
02:45:07,134 --> 02:45:09,269
>> motion on the floor by vice

4203
02:45:09,269 --> 02:45:10,238
mayor seconded by

4204
02:45:10,238 --> 02:45:12,238
>> commissioner stokes there's

4205
02:45:18,278 --> 02:45:20,648
nothing to that for him.

4206
02:45:20,648 --> 02:45:23,480
Passes 5, 0, you know the

4207
02:45:33,928 --> 02:45:35,863
motion. I to direct the city

4208
02:45:35,863 --> 02:45:37,732
manager the to develop details

4209
02:45:37,732 --> 02:45:38,632
necessary to implement the

4210
02:45:38,632 --> 02:45:39,567
installation of a rainbow

4211
02:45:39,567 --> 02:45:42,369
bridge at the canine club

4212
02:45:42,369 --> 02:45:43,571
including amending the

4213
02:45:43,571 --> 02:45:44,272
administrative regulations.

4214
02:45:44,272 --> 02:45:44,972
>> for the tribune program to

4215
02:45:44,972 --> 02:45:47,372
include the purchase supplies

4216
02:45:48,376 --> 02:45:49,877
for pet owners too. Purpose of

4217
02:45:49,877 --> 02:45:50,544
memory of their deceased and

4218
02:45:50,544 --> 02:45:52,944
also including the creation

4219
02:45:56,316 --> 02:45:57,180
of. Related procedures

4220
02:45:57,180 --> 02:45:59,418
standards ethical harry uhl's

4221
02:46:00,288 --> 02:46:01,588
cost recovery fees and to

4222
02:46:01,588 --> 02:46:02,256
bring the proposed

4223
02:46:02,256 --> 02:46:02,857
implementation plan back to

4224
02:46:02,857 --> 02:46:05,257
the city commission for

4225
02:46:05,560 --> 02:46:07,560
consideration.

4226
02:46:09,196 --> 02:46:12,796
>> motion on the floor made by

4227
02:46:19,373 --> 02:46:21,373
our city.

4228
02:46:26,130 --> 02:46:29,613
>> when how old they are also

4229
02:46:31,252 --> 02:46:32,686
2

4230
02:46:32,686 --> 02:46:33,854
>> so we have a motion on the

4231
02:46:33,854 --> 02:46:37,454
floor to move the city manager

4232
02:46:38,392 --> 02:46:39,393
to develop the details

4233
02:46:39,393 --> 02:46:40,160
necessary to implement the

4234
02:46:40,160 --> 02:46:40,894
installation of a rainbow

4235
02:46:40,894 --> 02:46:43,398
bridge if the canine club city

4236
02:46:43,398 --> 02:46:45,399
clerk do you have the rest of

4237
02:46:45,399 --> 02:46:48,999
that case made our city mayor.

4238
02:46:49,404 --> 02:46:52,539
Do I hear a second. Also.

4239
02:46:52,539 --> 02:46:53,207
Seconded by commissioner duval

4240
02:46:53,207 --> 02:46:56,807
if there's no more to that

4241
02:47:01,549 --> 02:47:04,549
let's vote. And that motion

4242
02:47:06,254 --> 02:47:08,254
passes 5 to 0.

4243
02:47:14,194 --> 02:47:16,594
>> thank you did a

4244
02:47:19,701 --> 02:47:21,701
commissioners of

4245
02:47:24,438 --> 02:47:26,838
>> moving on to 26 dash 1, 0,

4246
02:47:27,542 --> 02:47:29,377
5, discussion possible action

4247
02:47:29,377 --> 02:47:30,211
regarding acting unified land

4248
02:47:30,211 --> 02:47:32,211
development regulations

4249
02:47:34,648 --> 02:47:35,683
concerned data center's this

4250
02:47:35,683 --> 02:47:36,170
was requested by commissioner

4251
02:47:36,170 --> 02:47:36,951
stokes

4252
02:47:36,951 --> 02:47:37,685
says MISTER Foss is going to

4253
02:47:37,685 --> 02:47:39,685
introduce this item.

4254
02:47:42,657 --> 02:47:44,291
>> this is a

4255
02:47:44,291 --> 02:47:46,691
>> thank you very much

4256
02:47:48,829 --> 02:47:49,230
commissioner stops this is

4257
02:47:49,230 --> 02:47:49,863
your items.

4258
02:47:49,863 --> 02:47:50,465
>> well, you know in our

4259
02:47:50,465 --> 02:47:51,765
discussions about we've

4260
02:47:51,765 --> 02:47:53,835
already you know kind of

4261
02:47:53,835 --> 02:47:55,936
discussed the idea regulation.

4262
02:47:55,936 --> 02:47:58,936
I think there's been plenty

4263
02:48:00,775 --> 02:48:01,475
additional discussion about.

4264
02:48:01,475 --> 02:48:04,475
>> how bill forry for 01:00am

4265
02:48:04,679 --> 02:48:05,313
harris will interact and west

4266
02:48:05,313 --> 02:48:08,313
priority and what we can

4267
02:48:09,517 --> 02:48:09,851
legally do what we can really

4268
02:48:09,851 --> 02:48:10,585
do it.

4269
02:48:10,585 --> 02:48:12,420
>> none of that is the concern

4270
02:48:12,420 --> 02:48:14,220
of this particular item for

4271
02:48:14,220 --> 02:48:16,127
discussion possible action in

4272
02:48:16,127 --> 02:48:18,250
my mind it was to formally

4273
02:48:18,250 --> 02:48:18,993
give direction to the city

4274
02:48:18,993 --> 02:48:22,593
attorney to go out and work

4275
02:48:24,980 --> 02:48:25,566
diligently in a timely fashion

4276
02:48:25,566 --> 02:48:26,267
draft foreign set a gold

4277
02:48:26,267 --> 02:48:28,267
standard regulations whether

4278
02:48:30,438 --> 02:48:32,838
includes protections. I don't

4279
02:48:36,543 --> 02:48:38,512
care I want credibly. Strong

4280
02:48:38,512 --> 02:48:39,213
set of regulations that

4281
02:48:39,213 --> 02:48:42,213
address work our air quality

4282
02:48:43,585 --> 02:48:44,819
and sound that are with in vol

4283
02:48:44,819 --> 02:48:48,423
au for you to bring that to on

4284
02:48:48,423 --> 02:48:50,491
a monthly basis tough day in a

4285
02:48:50,491 --> 02:48:52,326
workshop, so that the public

4286
02:48:52,326 --> 02:48:55,326
as well as commission can

4287
02:48:55,430 --> 02:48:56,197
provide some input and should

4288
02:48:56,197 --> 02:48:56,898
be a transparent process to

4289
02:48:56,898 --> 02:48:59,898
put together whatever we can

4290
02:49:01,469 --> 02:49:04,469
put together. As far as

4291
02:49:05,306 --> 02:49:07,706
regulations. It was spent

4292
02:49:08,743 --> 02:49:09,777
there legal strength or lack

4293
02:49:09,777 --> 02:49:12,646
of legal straight that's not

4294
02:49:12,646 --> 02:49:13,380
making we need to regulations

4295
02:49:13,380 --> 02:49:17,580
and we also perhaps you can to

4296
02:49:19,787 --> 02:49:21,556
bear in mind that. As a city.

4297
02:49:21,556 --> 02:49:25,156
We have not yet dealt with

4298
02:49:25,293 --> 02:49:26,270
industrial development here

4299
02:49:26,270 --> 02:49:26,761
any extent and I think part of

4300
02:49:26,761 --> 02:49:29,997
this process should be to take

4301
02:49:29,997 --> 02:49:32,997
a look as well. Regulation

4302
02:49:33,434 --> 02:49:35,434
that addresses. Industrial

4303
02:49:38,373 --> 02:49:39,400
development as well because

4304
02:49:39,400 --> 02:49:40,341
they say there's maybe only

4305
02:49:40,341 --> 02:49:42,443
one of a number of types of

4306
02:49:42,443 --> 02:49:44,443
projects industrial projects

4307
02:49:44,478 --> 02:49:47,810
that MAY come before they have

4308
02:49:47,810 --> 02:49:47,815
impact on the on sale only

4309
02:49:47,815 --> 02:49:49,150
same areas and they need to be

4310
02:49:49,150 --> 02:49:52,750
addressed as the city. We need

4311
02:49:56,257 --> 02:49:56,958
to. Put together we need bring

4312
02:49:56,958 --> 02:49:59,958
him before the commission and

4313
02:50:00,940 --> 02:50:01,162
the public for everybody's and

4314
02:50:01,162 --> 02:50:03,464
then figure out what we want

4315
02:50:03,464 --> 02:50:05,232
to whether we can and that

4316
02:50:05,232 --> 02:50:08,336
just before one 80 runs out or

4317
02:50:08,336 --> 02:50:09,337
not is separate and apart a

4318
02:50:09,337 --> 02:50:12,207
discussion that we could talk

4319
02:50:12,207 --> 02:50:14,750
about for a century and never

4320
02:50:14,750 --> 02:50:14,776
saw because that's going to be

4321
02:50:14,776 --> 02:50:17,178
adjudicated in a court of law

4322
02:50:17,178 --> 02:50:20,810
I have no doubt at some point

4323
02:50:20,810 --> 02:50:20,648
but we need these regulations

4324
02:50:20,648 --> 02:50:22,283
so happy to hear what

4325
02:50:22,283 --> 02:50:23,651
everybody else on the say

4326
02:50:23,651 --> 02:50:24,385
because we need to give clear

4327
02:50:24,385 --> 02:50:24,785
direction and get this process

4328
02:50:24,785 --> 02:50:26,785
going in my

4329
02:50:30,558 --> 02:50:32,558
thank you vice

4330
02:50:33,361 --> 02:50:34,128
>> thank you city attorney it

4331
02:50:34,128 --> 02:50:37,128
was my understanding that we

4332
02:50:38,666 --> 02:50:40,501
already gave you this

4333
02:50:40,501 --> 02:50:42,403
direction. In the reading of

4334
02:50:42,403 --> 02:50:45,140
the ordinance so I guess I'm

4335
02:50:45,140 --> 02:50:47,275
asking for your understanding

4336
02:50:47,275 --> 02:50:50,275
of where the direction to

4337
02:50:52,480 --> 02:50:54,880
create those regulations. Our.

4338
02:50:57,152 --> 02:50:57,519
>> well second rate impending

4339
02:50:57,519 --> 02:50:58,219
right so.

4340
02:50:58,219 --> 02:51:00,619
>> and issue discussed talked

4341
02:51:05,927 --> 02:51:08,730
to just to be. Kerry because

4342
02:51:08,730 --> 02:51:11,730
they said you want you're

4343
02:51:13,734 --> 02:51:15,636
doing for the last years maybe

4344
02:51:15,636 --> 02:51:18,360
longer something about it

4345
02:51:19,140 --> 02:51:19,541
later all that's all for

4346
02:51:19,541 --> 02:51:21,541
discussion.

4347
02:51:21,942 --> 02:51:22,577
>> I'm very much inclined to

4348
02:51:22,577 --> 02:51:25,577
focus on data centers now

4349
02:51:27,215 --> 02:51:28,983
since it's such an immediate

4350
02:51:28,983 --> 02:51:29,650
issue. I also have some

4351
02:51:29,650 --> 02:51:31,686
concerns and some thoughts

4352
02:51:31,686 --> 02:51:35,286
about how we should proceed in

4353
02:51:35,623 --> 02:51:36,390
that industrial use category

4354
02:51:36,390 --> 02:51:36,925
that personally I don't feel

4355
02:51:36,925 --> 02:51:39,260
equipped to have a

4356
02:51:39,260 --> 02:51:41,426
conversation on that today.

4357
02:51:45,433 --> 02:51:46,134
My. Suggestion would be that

4358
02:51:46,134 --> 02:51:47,635
we focus on data centers. I

4359
02:51:47,635 --> 02:51:50,635
think we have all acknowledged

4360
02:51:54,742 --> 02:51:55,476
that. And I'm so when we

4361
02:51:55,476 --> 02:51:58,476
approved the moratorium one of

4362
02:51:58,546 --> 02:52:01,546
the most important pieces of

4363
02:52:01,883 --> 02:52:02,583
work is getting those

4364
02:52:02,583 --> 02:52:04,983
regulations and guardrails in

4365
02:52:05,787 --> 02:52:06,788
place and voted on and into

4366
02:52:06,788 --> 02:52:10,988
our uldc and that we do that

4367
02:52:12,961 --> 02:52:15,300
as quickly as possible. I

4368
02:52:15,300 --> 02:52:15,897
don't know as monthly is the

4369
02:52:15,897 --> 02:52:16,664
right time frame. Kind of open

4370
02:52:16,664 --> 02:52:17,165
to that but I'd be interested

4371
02:52:17,165 --> 02:52:18,900
in what my fellow

4372
02:52:18,900 --> 02:52:21,300
commissioners have to say.

4373
02:52:27,809 --> 02:52:28,409
Many here in ball.

4374
02:52:28,409 --> 02:52:30,809
>> but question first I

4375
02:52:39,287 --> 02:52:40,210
believe support it. Edition so

4376
02:52:40,210 --> 02:52:42,210
additional commissioner stokes

4377
02:52:46,561 --> 02:52:47,261
com going to talk about.

4378
02:52:47,261 --> 02:52:50,861
Quality okay. Why does also a

4379
02:52:52,634 --> 02:52:54,100
part of this okay. You know we

4380
02:52:54,100 --> 02:52:57,100
all there's a number over

4381
02:52:58,206 --> 02:53:01,206
love. Properties in the city

4382
02:53:01,843 --> 02:53:04,879
the role of wells. We have a

4383
02:53:04,879 --> 02:53:06,548
any kind of industry that is

4384
02:53:06,548 --> 02:53:09,548
going lower the water table.

4385
02:53:11,986 --> 02:53:12,654
You know that could affect

4386
02:53:12,654 --> 02:53:15,654
thousands of people in the

4387
02:53:22,960 --> 02:53:23,197
city. And I'm sure as city

4388
02:53:23,197 --> 02:53:24,633
attorney worse things you but

4389
02:53:24,633 --> 02:53:28,136
with some of things you one of

4390
02:53:28,136 --> 02:53:30,536
would too. Comparatively for

4391
02:53:32,841 --> 02:53:35,241
all their cities. Regarding

4392
02:53:35,310 --> 02:53:37,212
you know. The best practices

4393
02:53:37,212 --> 02:53:39,548
on the way that you know we

4394
02:53:39,548 --> 02:53:42,548
could protect the city. For

4395
02:53:43,551 --> 02:53:45,951
all. Consequences that we

4396
02:53:48,356 --> 02:53:51,225
really do I have. That's it

4397
02:53:51,225 --> 02:53:54,825
for me thank thank you. Sir

4398
02:53:57,566 --> 02:53:58,300
commissioner federal thank you

4399
02:53:58,300 --> 02:54:00,903
the subject water and I concur

4400
02:54:00,903 --> 02:54:01,637
with vice mayor length and

4401
02:54:01,637 --> 02:54:05,237
then commission to vote on the

4402
02:54:05,407 --> 02:54:06,740
monthly updates monthly.

4403
02:54:06,740 --> 02:54:09,740
Schedule if you will about

4404
02:54:15,550 --> 02:54:18,550
stopped. But water. Such vital

4405
02:54:19,554 --> 02:54:21,222
component a life's 70% of each

4406
02:54:21,222 --> 02:54:24,822
one of consist more or water.

4407
02:54:27,128 --> 02:54:28,964
And if we're contaminated the

4408
02:54:28,964 --> 02:54:31,265
quality of life and

4409
02:54:31,265 --> 02:54:33,265
everybody's affected. With

4410
02:54:38,540 --> 02:54:40,375
this scale. Data is that. You

4411
02:54:40,375 --> 02:54:41,900
know I just wonder what

4412
02:54:41,900 --> 02:54:43,409
motivates the people more

4413
02:54:44,646 --> 02:54:46,414
than. The quality of life and

4414
02:54:46,414 --> 02:54:47,115
that's obviously in this case

4415
02:54:47,115 --> 02:54:50,115
and my personal perception is

4416
02:54:51,185 --> 02:54:54,785
money. And the u you know

4417
02:54:56,358 --> 02:54:58,478
specifically said that also.

4418
02:54:58,478 --> 02:54:58,609
Crypto mining whatever

4419
02:54:58,609 --> 02:54:59,961
accountability of this data

4420
02:54:59,961 --> 02:55:01,863
center so. Crypto mining is

4421
02:55:01,863 --> 02:55:04,863
one of the most profitable

4422
02:55:05,733 --> 02:55:08,733
mining. Modern days. You know

4423
02:55:12,400 --> 02:55:14,750
college and probably but we

4424
02:55:14,750 --> 02:55:14,776
cannot sacrifice quality of

4425
02:55:14,776 --> 02:55:17,776
life and a specifically want

4426
02:55:22,250 --> 02:55:25,250
to. The direction looking into

4427
02:55:25,921 --> 02:55:29,521
this subject the and that is

4428
02:55:31,926 --> 02:55:33,926
water. A 23 73.2 6, 2,

4429
02:55:35,397 --> 02:55:36,131
specifically governments,

4430
02:55:36,131 --> 02:55:36,865
let's scale. They decide is it

4431
02:55:36,865 --> 02:55:39,735
requires they water used to be

4432
02:55:39,735 --> 02:55:42,135
consistent. But local zoning

4433
02:55:45,507 --> 02:55:46,241
and comprehensive it says what

4434
02:55:46,241 --> 02:55:48,843
patient MAY not be issued when

4435
02:55:48,843 --> 02:55:49,510
the proposed use would be

4436
02:55:49,510 --> 02:55:52,810
harmful to the area's water

4437
02:55:52,810 --> 02:55:55,810
resources. And one of reasons

4438
02:55:59,870 --> 02:55:59,754
one of them. Overhead but the

4439
02:55:59,754 --> 02:56:02,754
local regulations. So in my

4440
02:56:03,325 --> 02:56:06,261
view we should the focus to

4441
02:56:06,261 --> 02:56:06,995
the welfare of our and like

4442
02:56:06,995 --> 02:56:09,431
and I was going to mention the

4443
02:56:09,431 --> 02:56:13,310
same thing about what are also

4444
02:56:13,350 --> 02:56:15,837
a lot of people and the senate

4445
02:56:15,837 --> 02:56:19,107
our area low on water wells.

4446
02:56:19,107 --> 02:56:22,707
It's even going to clean or

4447
02:56:23,278 --> 02:56:23,978
and it depends skill

4448
02:56:23,978 --> 02:56:26,378
large-scale they decide that

4449
02:56:27,282 --> 02:56:28,384
we don't even know how big it

4450
02:56:28,384 --> 02:56:29,985
we know the square footage, we

4451
02:56:29,985 --> 02:56:31,553
know that building footprint

4452
02:56:31,553 --> 02:56:34,560
but we don't know if it's 50

4453
02:56:34,560 --> 02:56:36,456
megawatts it's 40 if it's 30

4454
02:56:38,726 --> 02:56:40,729
70. And what they you know

4455
02:56:40,729 --> 02:56:41,429
proposed plans of how it's

4456
02:56:41,429 --> 02:56:42,970
going to be done whether it's

4457
02:56:42,970 --> 02:56:44,433
a substation or whatever it

4458
02:56:44,433 --> 02:56:48,470
was still going to be used. So

4459
02:56:48,470 --> 02:56:52,700
I just wanted to direct our.

4460
02:56:52,373 --> 02:56:53,575
Attention and maybe make a

4461
02:56:53,575 --> 02:56:55,744
motion to direct the city

4462
02:56:55,744 --> 02:56:57,744
attorney specifically looking

4463
02:56:57,779 --> 02:57:00,779
to that as legally authorized

4464
02:57:06,422 --> 02:57:07,122
water study scale data sent to

4465
02:57:07,122 --> 02:57:09,758
do critical mind you have to

4466
02:57:09,758 --> 02:57:10,525
have a large scale data center

4467
02:57:10,525 --> 02:57:13,525
still not just data center

4468
02:57:13,996 --> 02:57:17,596
that brings me to that is

4469
02:57:19,268 --> 02:57:20,202
notion again status I'm not.

4470
02:57:20,202 --> 02:57:20,936
Davis said data center

4471
02:57:20,936 --> 02:57:23,936
large-scale type of scale data

4472
02:57:26,608 --> 02:57:27,309
center different. Tough

4473
02:57:27,309 --> 02:57:30,846
animal. With is that we have

4474
02:57:30,846 --> 02:57:32,113
seen from the discussion up to

4475
02:57:32,113 --> 02:57:33,480
this point that even

4476
02:57:33,480 --> 02:57:35,750
development does not know all

4477
02:57:35,750 --> 02:57:38,554
the details and when we had

4478
02:57:38,554 --> 02:57:39,221
workshop. We could really.

4479
02:57:39,221 --> 02:57:41,621
Getting answers because it

4480
02:57:42,858 --> 02:57:44,793
would project specific.

4481
02:57:44,793 --> 02:57:48,393
Defense in the project. We did

4482
02:57:49,130 --> 02:57:49,798
not know. You know the

4483
02:57:49,798 --> 02:57:52,198
direction of developer what

4484
02:57:56,538 --> 02:57:58,407
it's going to be. So having I

4485
02:57:58,407 --> 02:58:01,407
want to direct the city

4486
02:58:01,677 --> 02:58:02,377
attorney. You know to that

4487
02:58:02,377 --> 02:58:05,977
specific area of water to do

4488
02:58:11,653 --> 02:58:12,354
that. As legally as possible

4489
02:58:12,354 --> 02:58:13,220
to restrict condition or deny

4490
02:58:13,220 --> 02:58:13,756
approval of a new proposed

4491
02:58:13,756 --> 02:58:16,156
large-scale data center within

4492
02:58:20,563 --> 02:58:21,297
the city. You know because.

4493
02:58:21,297 --> 02:58:23,697
Water resource protections for

4494
02:58:26,435 --> 02:58:30,350
us. For humans as opposed to.

4495
02:58:32,641 --> 02:58:33,341
You know probably driven.

4496
02:58:33,341 --> 02:58:36,941
Schools and I'm open you know

4497
02:58:38,280 --> 02:58:39,381
to listen to my fellow

4498
02:58:39,381 --> 02:58:41,781
commissioners. How to direct

4499
02:58:41,983 --> 02:58:42,585
the city attorney or is

4500
02:58:42,585 --> 02:58:43,252
commission stokes does

4501
02:58:43,252 --> 02:58:45,252
proposition doesn't include

4502
02:58:48,900 --> 02:58:48,790
that. I just want to be more

4503
02:58:48,790 --> 02:58:50,590
detail oriented when we talk

4504
02:58:50,590 --> 02:58:53,590
about the water. Thank you

4505
02:58:54,329 --> 02:58:56,264
mayor.

4506
02:58:56,264 --> 02:58:59,864
>> I just have a question from

4507
02:59:00,736 --> 02:59:01,436
commissioners stokes is it

4508
02:59:01,436 --> 02:59:02,638
your intention to enable this

4509
02:59:02,638 --> 02:59:03,405
work to begin before a second

4510
02:59:03,405 --> 02:59:06,108
reading to kind of pull these

4511
02:59:06,108 --> 02:59:08,508
regulations of the moratorium

4512
02:59:09,678 --> 02:59:10,980
language. I mean we can lead

4513
02:59:10,980 --> 02:59:14,916
and they are but you know what

4514
02:59:14,916 --> 02:59:16,451
I'm saying to accelerate the

4515
02:59:16,451 --> 02:59:20,510
it was my intention to give

4516
02:59:21,222 --> 02:59:21,524
from direction to begin right

4517
02:59:21,524 --> 02:59:22,224
now.

4518
02:59:22,224 --> 02:59:23,759
>> because irrespective of

4519
02:59:23,759 --> 02:59:26,159
this application or any

4520
02:59:27,262 --> 02:59:30,166
application or any uses. I

4521
02:59:30,166 --> 02:59:32,167
agree, let's start with but we

4522
02:59:32,167 --> 02:59:34,203
need to do this and we need to

4523
02:59:34,203 --> 02:59:35,971
get to work on and it is going

4524
02:59:35,971 --> 02:59:37,106
to be a process because as we

4525
02:59:37,106 --> 02:59:40,706
can none of us know exactly

4526
02:59:40,843 --> 02:59:41,810
what to ask for yet. And we

4527
02:59:41,810 --> 02:59:44,210
don't even know what's

4528
02:59:44,713 --> 02:59:45,648
involved in this particular

4529
02:59:45,648 --> 02:59:47,249
application yet, but I would

4530
02:59:47,249 --> 02:59:47,950
say that we need to begin

4531
02:59:47,950 --> 02:59:48,684
somewhere and that's what I'm

4532
02:59:48,684 --> 02:59:52,284
trying to do is give direction

4533
02:59:52,421 --> 02:59:54,156
to start process and then see

4534
02:59:54,156 --> 02:59:55,424
it evolve. That's why I think

4535
02:59:55,424 --> 02:59:57,259
the monthly you know updates

4536
02:59:57,259 --> 02:59:58,193
are important in a workshop

4537
02:59:58,193 --> 03:00:00,593
environment because not only

4538
03:00:01,230 --> 03:00:03,532
will we have ideas in question

4539
03:00:03,532 --> 03:00:05,233
but so the general public and

4540
03:00:05,233 --> 03:00:05,967
this process needs include

4541
03:00:05,967 --> 03:00:08,367
everybody kind development our

4542
03:00:09,572 --> 03:00:12,407
city affects everybody and it

4543
03:00:12,407 --> 03:00:15,377
can't be done in the dark can

4544
03:00:15,377 --> 03:00:16,545
be by anyone needs to be done

4545
03:00:16,545 --> 03:00:18,380
collectively by everybody to

4546
03:00:18,380 --> 03:00:20,490
see health and welfare the

4547
03:00:20,490 --> 03:00:22,718
city is protected so long way

4548
03:00:22,718 --> 03:00:25,118
answer your question. Yes,

4549
03:00:27,623 --> 03:00:29,623
>> but that idea.

4550
03:00:29,658 --> 03:00:30,226
>> the one thing sort of

4551
03:00:30,226 --> 03:00:30,960
concerned about is I

4552
03:00:30,960 --> 03:00:33,960
understand the monthly I agree

4553
03:00:34,496 --> 03:00:35,631
with the monthly updates. But

4554
03:00:35,631 --> 03:00:36,365
depending on how far we go

4555
03:00:36,365 --> 03:00:39,768
I've got no issues with having

4556
03:00:39,768 --> 03:00:41,704
it at a workshop. But what if

4557
03:00:41,704 --> 03:00:42,904
there's just not enough

4558
03:00:42,904 --> 03:00:43,638
information as we move along

4559
03:00:43,638 --> 03:00:47,310
to work we can use at least of

4560
03:00:47,310 --> 03:00:49,110
the agenda item to go ahead

4561
03:00:49,110 --> 03:00:50,980
and discuss it I just want to

4562
03:00:50,980 --> 03:00:52,748
put that out there to where if

4563
03:00:52,748 --> 03:00:53,348
he's only got like a 5 minute

4564
03:00:53,348 --> 03:00:54,160
update we're not really

4565
03:00:54,160 --> 03:00:57,160
passionate about to have a

4566
03:00:57,653 --> 03:00:58,387
special meeting as workshop,

4567
03:00:58,387 --> 03:00:59,210
public stolen by public but to

4568
03:00:59,210 --> 03:01:01,421
be involved given public

4569
03:01:02,458 --> 03:01:03,910
comment but. Instead of having

4570
03:01:03,910 --> 03:01:05,361
a full long workshop for

4571
03:01:05,361 --> 03:01:08,361
little information. It has an

4572
03:01:09,265 --> 03:01:12,201
agenda item I just want the

4573
03:01:12,201 --> 03:01:13,435
the attorney to have that

4574
03:01:13,435 --> 03:01:17,350
going forward I just want to

4575
03:01:18,474 --> 03:01:20,476
make monthly basis part of

4576
03:01:20,476 --> 03:01:22,244
meeting agenda whether it's

4577
03:01:22,244 --> 03:01:24,346
the jet that was to worship

4578
03:01:24,346 --> 03:01:28,546
that we wore a part of this

4579
03:01:29,850 --> 03:01:32,850
process sure 6 months get a

4580
03:01:33,255 --> 03:01:34,323
pile of regulations that input

4581
03:01:34,323 --> 03:01:36,558
okay, we should be part of

4582
03:01:36,558 --> 03:01:37,292
this process that's right. I

4583
03:01:37,292 --> 03:01:40,290
just hate to see put together

4584
03:01:40,290 --> 03:01:40,796
a workshop at there's a day

4585
03:01:40,796 --> 03:01:43,796
and yeah, the citizens have

4586
03:01:44,200 --> 03:01:45,534
chance

4587
03:01:45,534 --> 03:01:46,301
>> we've got the update there

4588
03:01:46,301 --> 03:01:46,968
like well why would come here

4589
03:01:46,968 --> 03:01:50,568
for you know, that's all I

4590
03:01:50,940 --> 03:01:51,473
just hate to say it like

4591
03:01:51,473 --> 03:01:53,473
commissioner petro.

4592
03:01:55,244 --> 03:01:57,146
>> just want to say monthlies

4593
03:01:57,146 --> 03:02:00,746
with not go further than than

4594
03:02:04,386 --> 03:02:04,987
the monthly. A time just

4595
03:02:04,987 --> 03:02:05,655
because you know it's a

4596
03:02:05,655 --> 03:02:08,550
frightened little do agenda

4597
03:02:09,858 --> 03:02:10,559
when the regular meeting. But

4598
03:02:10,559 --> 03:02:14,159
if it's more we can depending

4599
03:02:16,298 --> 03:02:17,000
on mound. But I want to wait 2

4600
03:02:17,000 --> 03:02:20,600
months and you know you know

4601
03:02:21,303 --> 03:02:22,939
technology itself is the vote

4602
03:02:22,939 --> 03:02:27,139
so fast but the I mean it.

4603
03:02:29,145 --> 03:02:31,380
Every time. There's an

4604
03:02:31,380 --> 03:02:32,148
invention. But the time we get

4605
03:02:32,148 --> 03:02:32,815
to come back in 2 months come

4606
03:02:32,815 --> 03:02:36,850
up with some of the plants

4607
03:02:36,850 --> 03:02:37,920
that we have not talked about

4608
03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:39,188
it. So that's just my opinion

4609
03:02:39,188 --> 03:02:39,889
but also question for the

4610
03:02:39,889 --> 03:02:44,890
mayor and for the rest of the

4611
03:02:45,494 --> 03:02:46,195
commission. Doing a specific

4612
03:02:46,195 --> 03:02:49,195
direction to city attorney is

4613
03:02:50,366 --> 03:02:51,534
up right now what we want to

4614
03:02:51,534 --> 03:02:54,534
the more focused on I

4615
03:02:55,804 --> 03:02:56,472
mentioned the 3, 7, 3, 4, 2,

4616
03:02:56,472 --> 03:02:58,674
6, 2, and I'm sure probably

4617
03:02:58,674 --> 03:02:59,750
listened to that. And that's

4618
03:02:59,750 --> 03:03:01,750
the thing.

4619
03:03:03,112 --> 03:03:05,112
Regulation about large-scale

4620
03:03:11,453 --> 03:03:14,356
data centers on water. Do how

4621
03:03:14,356 --> 03:03:16,625
how specific do go right now

4622
03:03:16,625 --> 03:03:18,594
right now the city attorney is

4623
03:03:18,594 --> 03:03:19,862
in the queue allow and to

4624
03:03:19,862 --> 03:03:20,496
answer the question. First 40

4625
03:03:20,496 --> 03:03:22,896
for legality reasons city

4626
03:03:23,899 --> 03:03:25,899
attorney.

4627
03:03:34,576 --> 03:03:35,377
>> excuse yeah. Show. With as

4628
03:03:35,377 --> 03:03:36,346
you know are going my thing

4629
03:03:36,346 --> 03:03:39,946
have it, but it's probably a

4630
03:03:41,117 --> 03:03:44,117
lot effort within the city

4631
03:03:44,787 --> 03:03:48,387
this well because dlc is about

4632
03:03:52,928 --> 03:03:57,128
steph if we want start it such

4633
03:03:58,901 --> 03:03:59,635
part as I think but for a

4634
03:03:59,635 --> 03:04:03,835
start and so we have to decide

4635
03:04:05,841 --> 03:04:06,575
where that was the it.

4636
03:04:06,575 --> 03:04:08,745
>> and and and that's use so I

4637
03:04:08,745 --> 03:04:11,145
think should be some

4638
03:04:14,717 --> 03:04:17,419
direction. Feels about it. But

4639
03:04:17,419 --> 03:04:20,419
it doesn't become oldest, I

4640
03:04:20,990 --> 03:04:21,624
believe because because I'm

4641
03:04:21,624 --> 03:04:25,224
going to be like law that

4642
03:04:26,361 --> 03:04:29,961
there would well an also I

4643
03:04:30,433 --> 03:04:31,434
mean go that route.

4644
03:04:31,434 --> 03:04:33,403
>> that would mean that this

4645
03:04:33,403 --> 03:04:35,504
could be the first part of

4646
03:04:35,504 --> 03:04:36,272
your process moving forward

4647
03:04:36,272 --> 03:04:37,740
we're getting but all the

4648
03:04:37,740 --> 03:04:39,542
ducks in order what we want to

4649
03:04:39,542 --> 03:04:40,242
do this is part of you've

4650
03:04:40,242 --> 03:04:41,744
gather in the information on

4651
03:04:41,744 --> 03:04:42,412
where we want to go as well so

4652
03:04:42,412 --> 03:04:45,412
putting a plan together is

4653
03:04:46,849 --> 03:04:47,617
probably states want.

4654
03:04:47,617 --> 03:04:48,817
>> but go ahead commissioner,

4655
03:04:48,817 --> 03:04:51,788
and and good point there

4656
03:04:51,788 --> 03:04:52,789
because that's that's why the

4657
03:04:52,789 --> 03:04:53,489
state speak collaborative

4658
03:04:53,489 --> 03:04:55,758
process. The first is to come

4659
03:04:55,758 --> 03:04:57,660
up with a plan on how we're

4660
03:04:57,660 --> 03:04:59,128
going attack this and I don't

4661
03:04:59,128 --> 03:05:00,930
disagree city attorney that

4662
03:05:00,930 --> 03:05:01,764
there needs to be important

4663
03:05:01,764 --> 03:05:03,799
and I should have had that not

4664
03:05:03,799 --> 03:05:04,801
just input from this

4665
03:05:04,801 --> 03:05:07,300
commission input from the

4666
03:05:07,300 --> 03:05:09,772
public input from staff and

4667
03:05:09,772 --> 03:05:11,975
import most importantly from

4668
03:05:11,975 --> 03:05:13,975
third-party professionals who

4669
03:05:14,710 --> 03:05:16,813
have perhaps wall this war

4670
03:05:16,813 --> 03:05:18,848
before in other jurisdictions

4671
03:05:18,848 --> 03:05:20,282
because I truly do believe

4672
03:05:20,282 --> 03:05:21,250
that level of objectivity and

4673
03:05:21,250 --> 03:05:23,650
transparency is important here

4674
03:05:24,987 --> 03:05:26,990
because have been many

4675
03:05:26,990 --> 03:05:29,390
allegations MAY personally I

4676
03:05:31,600 --> 03:05:32,628
feel but never last MAY that I

4677
03:05:32,628 --> 03:05:33,996
goal to need for objectivity

4678
03:05:33,996 --> 03:05:37,366
with regard to the process of

4679
03:05:37,366 --> 03:05:39,766
of preparing drafting and

4680
03:05:41,700 --> 03:05:42,705
enacting any regulations so

4681
03:05:42,705 --> 03:05:43,305
whatever it takes and that's

4682
03:05:43,305 --> 03:05:45,705
why this monthly update

4683
03:05:46,109 --> 03:05:49,109
process allows us to keep

4684
03:05:51,470 --> 03:05:52,915
tweeting process and just to

4685
03:05:52,915 --> 03:05:55,150
get you want to be in a

4686
03:05:55,150 --> 03:05:55,918
direction as commissioner

4687
03:05:55,918 --> 03:05:58,918
petro said they're all lying

4688
03:05:59,655 --> 03:06:00,756
areas to wrap our heads around

4689
03:06:00,756 --> 03:06:02,559
and you know a lot of

4690
03:06:02,559 --> 03:06:03,226
resources to draw from order

4691
03:06:03,226 --> 03:06:07,426
to do so you know we don't

4692
03:06:08,198 --> 03:06:09,999
know. Today that's why it

4693
03:06:09,999 --> 03:06:10,900
needs to be more of a general

4694
03:06:10,900 --> 03:06:11,734
direction and then sort of

4695
03:06:11,734 --> 03:06:13,436
walk this process forward

4696
03:06:13,436 --> 03:06:17,636
expand that as we go. I mean

4697
03:06:18,141 --> 03:06:18,808
so making sense. Yeah and as

4698
03:06:18,808 --> 03:06:21,444
we have these updates to we

4699
03:06:21,444 --> 03:06:25,440
can figure out. You know just

4700
03:06:26,149 --> 03:06:26,850
like he says is collaborative.

4701
03:06:26,850 --> 03:06:27,550
>> let's say we have another

4702
03:06:27,550 --> 03:06:29,520
agenda item saying he brings

4703
03:06:29,520 --> 03:06:32,856
it back this is our game plan.

4704
03:06:32,856 --> 03:06:34,890
We wanted to study a b and c

4705
03:06:34,890 --> 03:06:35,892
and then we know which

4706
03:06:35,892 --> 03:06:36,993
departments going to you know

4707
03:06:36,993 --> 03:06:37,627
in charge of those studies are

4708
03:06:37,627 --> 03:06:39,627
overseeing those studies

4709
03:06:40,730 --> 03:06:41,264
getting those studies taking

4710
03:06:41,264 --> 03:06:44,264
the reins will be a

4711
03:06:45,134 --> 03:06:46,836
collaborative you know.

4712
03:06:46,836 --> 03:06:47,536
Initiative between the whole

4713
03:06:47,536 --> 03:06:48,204
city working together so yeah

4714
03:06:48,204 --> 03:06:51,107
I agree with you we need to

4715
03:06:51,107 --> 03:06:54,707
go. General get a game plan

4716
03:06:56,546 --> 03:06:58,946
move forward. Anybody else.

4717
03:07:05,588 --> 03:07:06,288
City clerk public comment.

4718
03:07:06,288 --> 03:07:06,957
>> person I have problems and

4719
03:07:06,957 --> 03:07:10,557
the all by samuel and diane

4720
03:07:16,432 --> 03:07:17,990
conrad.

4721
03:07:17,990 --> 03:07:18,134
>> commission is still too

4722
03:07:18,134 --> 03:07:21,137
kind of what I say it's a big

4723
03:07:21,137 --> 03:07:25,337
need thank it has to be will

4724
03:07:25,675 --> 03:07:27,675
specific.

4725
03:07:29,412 --> 03:07:31,214
>> it can't just grouped under

4726
03:07:31,214 --> 03:07:31,948
a blanket use industrial heavy

4727
03:07:31,948 --> 03:07:34,184
industrial intensive. It's got

4728
03:07:34,184 --> 03:07:36,520
to be real specific. It's not

4729
03:07:36,520 --> 03:07:39,522
just the hype. The scale. This

4730
03:07:39,522 --> 03:07:43,250
other centers too. So we need

4731
03:07:43,250 --> 03:07:43,793
to break those down as well if

4732
03:07:43,793 --> 03:07:44,460
we really want to be specific

4733
03:07:44,460 --> 03:07:46,829
and we really want to cover

4734
03:07:46,829 --> 03:07:49,566
the whole gambit you can't

4735
03:07:49,566 --> 03:07:50,866
just focus on just the hyper

4736
03:07:50,866 --> 03:07:51,534
scales as we have to focus on

4737
03:07:51,534 --> 03:07:54,437
the other types of centers

4738
03:07:54,437 --> 03:07:55,104
that are out there well. And

4739
03:07:55,104 --> 03:07:58,104
have that written into our

4740
03:08:00,410 --> 03:08:01,100
cold as well. I appreciate

4741
03:08:01,100 --> 03:08:01,710
you're listening to the

4742
03:08:01,710 --> 03:08:05,114
citizen me because we need to

4743
03:08:05,114 --> 03:08:06,843
be included in this. Also of

4744
03:08:06,843 --> 03:08:09,843
course staff and also an

4745
03:08:28,859 --> 03:08:29,310
outside entity as well. Once

4746
03:08:29,310 --> 03:08:29,171
we've got some kind of the

4747
03:08:29,171 --> 03:08:29,313
plan is all that we've got

4748
03:08:29,313 --> 03:08:29,455
maybe a first or second draft.

4749
03:08:29,455 --> 03:08:29,596
We can then bring it

4750
03:08:29,596 --> 03:08:29,740
consultant to look at this and

4751
03:08:29,740 --> 03:08:29,880
see you know if everything is

4752
03:08:29,880 --> 03:08:30,220
jogging and the citizenry is

4753
03:08:30,220 --> 03:08:30,163
protected as well. Not just

4754
03:08:30,163 --> 03:08:30,306
the city, but the citizen. So

4755
03:08:30,306 --> 03:08:32,306
thank

4756
03:08:37,947 --> 03:08:39,947
>> thank want

4757
03:08:40,383 --> 03:08:41,417
>> ok guys my name is samuel

4758
03:08:41,417 --> 03:08:42,151
turpin given you ordinance

4759
03:08:42,151 --> 03:08:45,151
today everything that you guys

4760
03:08:45,288 --> 03:08:47,290
are saying appears bo ship.

4761
03:08:47,290 --> 03:08:48,900
The ordinance officially

4762
03:08:48,900 --> 03:08:50,900
declaring the legislative

4763
03:08:50,930 --> 03:08:52,362
intent to modify the land

4764
03:08:52,362 --> 03:08:54,362
development regulations all

4765
03:08:55,970 --> 03:08:57,497
the to establish copperhead

4766
03:08:58,234 --> 03:08:59,350
recharge basins a well-done

4767
03:08:59,350 --> 03:09:01,435
utility standards was in

4768
03:09:02,380 --> 03:09:03,240
immediate indication of the

4769
03:09:03,240 --> 03:09:06,240
pending court doctor to today

4770
03:09:13,116 --> 03:09:15,116
for applications consumption

4771
03:09:19,622 --> 03:09:20,257
and utility think rain that

4772
03:09:20,257 --> 03:09:22,657
out 7 counties that have

4773
03:09:25,462 --> 03:09:27,462
already

4774
03:09:33,703 --> 03:09:35,472
>> a charge, all that is said

4775
03:09:35,472 --> 03:09:38,508
and I want to they operate as

4776
03:09:38,508 --> 03:09:40,443
an extensive program its

4777
03:09:40,443 --> 03:09:42,443
development say section 3.0 6.

4778
03:09:49,118 --> 03:09:51,118
Graham protection. Attention

4779
03:09:51,888 --> 03:09:52,889
this study, kevin call it

4780
03:09:52,889 --> 03:09:55,289
straight when will development

4781
03:09:58,600 --> 03:10:00,460
design standards by adopting

4782
03:10:02,598 --> 03:10:06,198
the official put best to meant

4783
03:10:17,146 --> 03:10:20,146
men it. Information that let's

4784
03:10:26,990 --> 03:10:29,990
stop senators. Is a protection

4785
03:10:42,638 --> 03:10:44,638
ordinance chapter shed.

4786
03:10:48,778 --> 03:10:51,778
Recharge he watching this too

4787
03:10:56,285 --> 03:10:59,885
bad that you do not protect

4788
03:11:08,865 --> 03:11:12,465
you want to you need to 32

4789
03:11:12,769 --> 03:11:14,769
seconds estrogen surrounding

4790
03:11:15,905 --> 03:11:18,305
clear that's topic child

4791
03:11:21,845 --> 03:11:22,579
telling that to to ensure part

4792
03:11:22,579 --> 03:11:26,179
action all insists that is not

4793
03:11:32,922 --> 03:11:33,890
lot to at. Sentence what the

4794
03:11:33,890 --> 03:11:36,890
truth that standing here today

4795
03:11:48,105 --> 03:11:48,438
in JUNE of you know.

4796
03:11:48,438 --> 03:11:50,438
>> good

4797
03:11:51,842 --> 03:11:52,576
>> afternoon. My name is diane

4798
03:11:52,576 --> 03:11:56,176
conrad, I've been a citizen of

4799
03:11:58,148 --> 03:11:59,115
port for 35 years. And I'm

4800
03:11:59,115 --> 03:12:02,115
here to demand the immediate

4801
03:12:04,354 --> 03:12:05,550
drafting a permanent wellfield

4802
03:12:05,550 --> 03:12:07,550
protection ordinances written

4803
03:12:08,291 --> 03:12:08,992
directly into our local land

4804
03:12:08,992 --> 03:12:10,992
development regulations under

4805
03:12:12,762 --> 03:12:13,397
florida senate bill 4.84. We

4806
03:12:13,397 --> 03:12:14,300
are done with your delays

4807
03:12:14,300 --> 03:12:14,263
starting to send all this

4808
03:12:14,263 --> 03:12:14,435
#

4809
03:12:14,435 --> 03:12:14,597
#

4810
03:12:14,597 --> 03:12:14,751
#

4811
03:12:14,751 --> 03:12:16,751
#

4812
03:12:18,168 --> 03:12:18,868
.

4813
03:12:18,868 --> 03:12:19,569
>> under the judicial pending

4814
03:12:19,569 --> 03:12:22,569
morton stocked room you have

4815
03:12:26,776 --> 03:12:29,279
the legal authority. Now draft

4816
03:12:29,279 --> 03:12:30,247
these water protections

4817
03:12:30,247 --> 03:12:32,647
instantly freezing any new

4818
03:12:34,551 --> 03:12:35,485
data center applications.

4819
03:12:35,485 --> 03:12:37,885
North port deserves progress

4820
03:12:40,523 --> 03:12:41,190
that respects its land. Water

4821
03:12:41,190 --> 03:12:43,826
wildlife and people and our

4822
03:12:43,826 --> 03:12:46,226
future children. Nobody seems

4823
03:12:47,430 --> 03:12:48,131
to talk about the children.

4824
03:12:48,131 --> 03:12:48,699
They're going to grow up and

4825
03:12:48,699 --> 03:12:50,699
live with pollution.

4826
03:12:53,470 --> 03:12:54,137
So please make the right

4827
03:12:54,137 --> 03:12:57,137
decision for the people and

4828
03:12:58,274 --> 03:12:58,842
their children. And as I'm

4829
03:12:58,842 --> 03:13:00,842
standing sitting here

4830
03:13:03,880 --> 03:13:06,880
watching. It's the same thing

4831
03:13:09,519 --> 03:13:10,421
over and over from you

4832
03:13:10,421 --> 03:13:14,210
>> you need stand out and do

4833
03:13:15,192 --> 03:13:16,660
something for the people. It

4834
03:13:16,660 --> 03:13:17,694
is not right what you're doing

4835
03:13:17,694 --> 03:13:21,640
how did you get yourself into

4836
03:13:21,640 --> 03:13:21,765
this to begin with. Now we

4837
03:13:21,765 --> 03:13:24,501
wouldn't be here if it wasn't

4838
03:13:24,501 --> 03:13:25,168
for young people that signed

4839
03:13:25,168 --> 03:13:28,168
the agreement for the data

4840
03:13:29,138 --> 03:13:33,338
center. So it's up to you fix

4841
03:13:33,978 --> 03:13:37,380
it. With all these people that

4842
03:13:37,380 --> 03:13:40,380
have come to these meetings.

4843
03:13:43,253 --> 03:13:43,954
Please wake

4844
03:13:43,954 --> 03:13:48,154
>> thank you I am so far and

4845
03:13:58,602 --> 03:14:00,602
are yes.

4846
03:14:06,710 --> 03:14:08,710
>> well good afternoon

4847
03:14:09,346 --> 03:14:12,946
everybody. It's nice to be in

4848
03:14:18,154 --> 03:14:18,856
the chamber to for example,

4849
03:14:18,856 --> 03:14:19,556
we've heard some great stuff

4850
03:14:19,556 --> 03:14:23,156
today I want to samuel turban

4851
03:14:24,794 --> 03:14:27,100
a. All right thank robin I

4852
03:14:27,100 --> 03:14:27,364
want to every speaker heard in

4853
03:14:27,364 --> 03:14:30,364
the last 2, 3, weeks in the

4854
03:14:32,302 --> 03:14:33,904
city of port.

4855
03:14:33,904 --> 03:14:37,504
>> we have a real problem with

4856
03:14:37,641 --> 03:14:38,274
the water.

4857
03:14:38,274 --> 03:14:41,145
>> there's no ifs ands or

4858
03:14:41,145 --> 03:14:43,145
butts about it.

4859
03:14:45,749 --> 03:14:46,616
>> we all these there are

4860
03:14:46,616 --> 03:14:47,284
already in place and all of

4861
03:14:47,284 --> 03:14:48,485
these different things that

4862
03:14:48,485 --> 03:14:52,850
have been passed and that are

4863
03:14:56,226 --> 03:14:56,860
there. To protect the wall. To

4864
03:14:56,860 --> 03:14:57,594
protect recharging of the

4865
03:14:57,594 --> 03:14:59,994
intermediate and the surficial

4866
03:15:08,439 --> 03:15:09,139
awful for. We was a phosphate

4867
03:15:09,139 --> 03:15:11,142
they are sucking the life out

4868
03:15:11,142 --> 03:15:13,542
of our awful start.

4869
03:15:18,381 --> 03:15:20,283
>> no only the other

4870
03:15:20,283 --> 03:15:23,883
>> tons of water per year for

4871
03:15:25,990 --> 03:15:26,456
this specific center were all

4872
03:15:26,456 --> 03:15:27,157
talking about.

4873
03:15:27,157 --> 03:15:27,791
>> guess what everybody we do

4874
03:15:27,791 --> 03:15:30,191
have 2 billion gallons of

4875
03:15:34,865 --> 03:15:35,666
excess water. I toll richard

4876
03:15:35,666 --> 03:15:36,233
anderson's previous bosses at

4877
03:15:36,233 --> 03:15:38,633
the peace river water

4878
03:15:39,360 --> 03:15:41,436
authority. That this wasn't

4879
03:15:41,505 --> 03:15:44,505
going to be enough. Expansion

4880
03:15:47,770 --> 03:15:49,814
are doing. That they would

4881
03:15:49,814 --> 03:15:52,214
need to probably 3 reservoirs.

4882
03:15:54,818 --> 03:15:55,519
They didn't the land. I have

4883
03:15:55,519 --> 03:15:59,119
to tell everyone of you right

4884
03:15:59,756 --> 03:16:03,227
now. I should be getting ready

4885
03:16:03,227 --> 03:16:05,227
to fight

4886
03:16:14,170 --> 03:16:17,770
>> to city of north port so

4887
03:16:18,675 --> 03:16:19,377
show

4888
03:16:19,377 --> 03:16:20,111
>> so here's what I want

4889
03:16:20,111 --> 03:16:23,711
everybody in the city of north

4890
03:16:24,481 --> 03:16:28,485
port to to hear. If this does

4891
03:16:28,485 --> 03:16:29,219
it become a hard no. I'm going

4892
03:16:29,219 --> 03:16:33,323
get a lot of people to write a

4893
03:16:33,323 --> 03:16:33,990
letter. We're going to file a

4894
03:16:33,990 --> 03:16:37,590
letter of intent to sue the

4895
03:16:40,231 --> 03:16:43,231
city of port. Understand. For

4896
03:16:45,135 --> 03:16:45,435
threatening the quality of my

4897
03:16:45,435 --> 03:16:46,504
life.

4898
03:16:46,504 --> 03:16:49,504
>> the quality my in brother

4899
03:16:50,707 --> 03:16:51,342
sister in charlotte county.

4900
03:16:51,342 --> 03:16:52,900
>> matter of this is what

4901
03:16:52,900 --> 03:16:55,312
we're going to be doing to

4902
03:16:55,312 --> 03:16:57,312
every county.

4903
03:16:58,982 --> 03:17:02,419
>> her for you are here to

4904
03:17:02,419 --> 03:17:05,419
protect us. Just like I

4905
03:17:07,558 --> 03:17:08,325
protect every one of you.

4906
03:17:08,325 --> 03:17:11,325
Walking down the street he

4907
03:17:23,373 --> 03:17:25,373
said hospital.

4908
03:17:25,909 --> 03:17:27,578
>> any thank you for the

4909
03:17:27,578 --> 03:17:29,978
opportunity to speak because

4910
03:17:30,147 --> 03:17:31,448
my concern is that we address

4911
03:17:31,448 --> 03:17:32,820
multiple issues really we

4912
03:17:32,820 --> 03:17:34,510
recognize that we need to

4913
03:17:34,510 --> 03:17:36,451
create an ordinance did

4914
03:17:36,487 --> 03:17:39,487
business is permitted uses. We

4915
03:17:39,890 --> 03:17:40,490
have to look at not water

4916
03:17:40,490 --> 03:17:41,920
issue. But the talks of

4917
03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:43,393
commons that are being

4918
03:17:43,393 --> 03:17:44,940
released from these data

4919
03:17:44,940 --> 03:17:46,940
centers, current construction

4920
03:17:46,797 --> 03:17:47,464
is using gas fuel and diesel

4921
03:17:47,464 --> 03:17:48,999
fuel generators. Amount of

4922
03:17:48,999 --> 03:17:51,999
toxic carvings that are being

4923
03:17:53,360 --> 03:17:54,237
emitted has become a deal. A

4924
03:17:54,237 --> 03:17:56,637
concern for all communities.

4925
03:17:57,975 --> 03:18:00,210
All you have to do is google a

4926
03:18:00,210 --> 03:18:00,944
county and you'll see multiple

4927
03:18:00,944 --> 03:18:03,246
videos of what they're dealing

4928
03:18:03,246 --> 03:18:06,246
with now since 2024 and the

4929
03:18:06,450 --> 03:18:07,317
toxic. Missions have produced

4930
03:18:07,317 --> 03:18:08,452
and the and the dangerous

4931
03:18:08,452 --> 03:18:11,355
aspects of lung cancer and

4932
03:18:11,355 --> 03:18:12,723
other things is being treated

4933
03:18:12,723 --> 03:18:13,424
there. So when we talk about

4934
03:18:13,424 --> 03:18:15,824
state-of-the-art I would like

4935
03:18:16,427 --> 03:18:17,628
to make sure that we propose

4936
03:18:17,628 --> 03:18:18,862
an ordinance you know going

4937
03:18:18,862 --> 03:18:20,631
above state-of-the-art to

4938
03:18:20,631 --> 03:18:23,631
number one gas field and

4939
03:18:23,668 --> 03:18:24,335
diesel fuel generators and

4940
03:18:24,335 --> 03:18:25,669
instead given our state to

4941
03:18:25,669 --> 03:18:26,604
demand that these type of

4942
03:18:26,604 --> 03:18:28,806
systems use solar and says

4943
03:18:28,806 --> 03:18:30,981
they do have to have a

4944
03:18:30,981 --> 03:18:33,711
tendency in energy they use

4945
03:18:33,711 --> 03:18:34,545
either or magnetic a

4946
03:18:34,545 --> 03:18:35,746
generator, so they become

4947
03:18:35,746 --> 03:18:37,746
self-sufficient and not

4948
03:18:38,649 --> 03:18:40,984
relying on a I also recommend

4949
03:18:40,984 --> 03:18:42,587
that we have used evacuation

4950
03:18:42,587 --> 03:18:43,921
systems and the generator, a

4951
03:18:43,921 --> 03:18:45,689
water and not using or city

4952
03:18:45,689 --> 03:18:46,390
water to continue the services

4953
03:18:46,390 --> 03:18:47,580
demand that it be in a closed

4954
03:18:47,580 --> 03:18:50,580
loop system open mov system

4955
03:18:52,896 --> 03:18:53,664
because. Other counties have

4956
03:18:53,664 --> 03:18:54,765
already experienced massive

4957
03:18:54,765 --> 03:18:56,734
difference in consumption and

4958
03:18:56,734 --> 03:18:57,935
those type of systems and to

4959
03:18:57,935 --> 03:18:59,670
design such that we're

4960
03:18:59,670 --> 03:19:00,905
eliminating noise and we're

4961
03:19:00,905 --> 03:19:02,773
eliminating toxic omeish

4962
03:19:02,773 --> 03:19:03,874
emissions that come out of so

4963
03:19:03,874 --> 03:19:04,408
thank you for the time and

4964
03:19:04,408 --> 03:19:05,750
thank you for these

4965
03:19:05,750 --> 03:19:07,475
considerations I think it's

4966
03:19:07,645 --> 03:19:10,645
really important that we set

4967
03:19:10,848 --> 03:19:11,548
these type rules stated but

4968
03:19:11,548 --> 03:19:12,817
anybody is doing now because

4969
03:19:12,817 --> 03:19:13,584
we need that a new deal see

4970
03:19:13,584 --> 03:19:14,251
because we don't have specific

4971
03:19:14,251 --> 03:19:14,918
that definition the type of

4972
03:19:14,918 --> 03:19:17,318
industry. Thank you. Thank

4973
03:19:23,294 --> 03:19:25,294
you.

4974
03:19:29,660 --> 03:19:29,633
>> ipm cars for the record.

4975
03:19:29,633 --> 03:19:31,633
>> so knowing mostly

4976
03:19:33,700 --> 03:19:34,772
whatever's in the uldc there's

4977
03:19:34,772 --> 03:19:35,573
356 pages in the uldc 6

4978
03:19:35,573 --> 03:19:37,542
chapters the only resident

4979
03:19:37,542 --> 03:19:39,343
that has read this entire uldc

4980
03:19:39,343 --> 03:19:42,343
as robinson that's ending. I

4981
03:19:44,810 --> 03:19:44,815
was there for most of it. I do

4982
03:19:44,815 --> 03:19:45,516
remember stating that when you

4983
03:19:45,516 --> 03:19:48,719
do the rezone I do understand

4984
03:19:48,719 --> 03:19:49,653
the need for commercial,

4985
03:19:49,653 --> 03:19:51,389
however, when you re zone and

4986
03:19:51,389 --> 03:19:52,560
do this uldc you need to do it

4987
03:19:52,560 --> 03:19:55,560
responsibly so now here we

4988
03:19:56,694 --> 03:20:00,294
are. One of my suggestions is

4989
03:20:00,497 --> 03:20:01,799
is you need to bring fpl back

4990
03:20:01,799 --> 03:20:03,660
and when you bring of peel

4991
03:20:03,660 --> 03:20:03,701
back do not bring the

4992
03:20:03,701 --> 03:20:06,101
community person that was

4993
03:20:06,971 --> 03:20:07,971
going to calm, they don't know

4994
03:20:07,971 --> 03:20:10,374
anything. My husband has over

4995
03:20:10,374 --> 03:20:12,900
40 years of experience and a

4996
03:20:12,900 --> 03:20:13,276
large like triple utility

4997
03:20:13,276 --> 03:20:13,911
company up in connecticut, so

4998
03:20:13,911 --> 03:20:16,311
all these cheddar cheddar

4999
03:20:17,481 --> 03:20:18,182
actually went into my brain.

5000
03:20:18,182 --> 03:20:18,783
What you need to do is bring

5001
03:20:18,783 --> 03:20:21,183
in the actual technical

5002
03:20:24,555 --> 03:20:25,156
experts that do the job fpl

5003
03:20:25,156 --> 03:20:27,558
you need the guy at the

5004
03:20:27,558 --> 03:20:29,593
generating station to let

5005
03:20:29,593 --> 03:20:30,761
citizens know exactly how they

5006
03:20:30,761 --> 03:20:32,620
expect to generate all this

5007
03:20:32,620 --> 03:20:35,620
electricity to bring the you

5008
03:20:35,700 --> 03:20:36,334
need the technicians in the

5009
03:20:36,334 --> 03:20:37,340
transmission station that

5010
03:20:37,340 --> 03:20:37,701
tells us how they're going to

5011
03:20:37,701 --> 03:20:40,701
figure out low because it's

5012
03:20:41,105 --> 03:20:43,808
going to start once the

5013
03:20:43,808 --> 03:20:44,508
customer brings there's best

5014
03:20:44,508 --> 03:20:47,508
specs to that engineer that

5015
03:20:48,245 --> 03:20:49,547
has the right up that that

5016
03:20:49,547 --> 03:20:50,248
work plan they have 2 kids

5017
03:20:50,248 --> 03:20:52,583
they've got calculations that

5018
03:20:52,583 --> 03:20:54,285
they need to do to do that

5019
03:20:54,285 --> 03:20:56,153
load they're going to figure

5020
03:20:56,153 --> 03:20:56,754
out exactly how much equipment

5021
03:20:56,754 --> 03:20:57,454
this customer needs and

5022
03:20:57,454 --> 03:21:00,454
they're going to charge that

5023
03:21:00,691 --> 03:21:01,558
customer for that equipment

5024
03:21:01,558 --> 03:21:02,226
and then they'll go with that

5025
03:21:02,226 --> 03:21:04,626
tell the generating station

5026
03:21:04,862 --> 03:21:05,863
how much they need to generate

5027
03:21:05,863 --> 03:21:08,732
so that is one of the things I

5028
03:21:08,732 --> 03:21:10,534
suggest that when fpl comes

5029
03:21:10,534 --> 03:21:11,535
back that's what they bring

5030
03:21:11,535 --> 03:21:12,269
they bring those technical

5031
03:21:12,269 --> 03:21:13,737
expert back because I know you

5032
03:21:13,737 --> 03:21:16,737
guys all had questions about

5033
03:21:16,907 --> 03:21:19,543
that and then also with fpl

5034
03:21:19,543 --> 03:21:22,543
there's also up protocols that

5035
03:21:24,281 --> 03:21:26,484
they have to fall one of the

5036
03:21:26,484 --> 03:21:28,252
things that you need to ask is

5037
03:21:28,252 --> 03:21:30,121
regarding that equipment so if

5038
03:21:30,121 --> 03:21:31,222
you have it for example that

5039
03:21:31,222 --> 03:21:32,457
transmission stations out

5040
03:21:32,457 --> 03:21:34,359
there in new york sure they've

5041
03:21:34,359 --> 03:21:36,927
got this couple numbers out of

5042
03:21:36,927 --> 03:21:37,661
the hat they've got 20

5043
03:21:37,661 --> 03:21:39,764
transformers that service, the

5044
03:21:39,764 --> 03:21:42,700
city of north port from that

5045
03:21:42,700 --> 03:21:43,701
station. So now if you put a

5046
03:21:43,701 --> 03:21:45,936
data center and and you bring

5047
03:21:45,936 --> 03:21:47,838
in 10 transformers only to

5048
03:21:47,838 --> 03:21:48,673
support that that a center

5049
03:21:48,673 --> 03:21:49,306
that is centered people paid

5050
03:21:49,306 --> 03:21:51,609
for that was transformers

5051
03:21:51,609 --> 03:21:52,743
because that's part of

5052
03:21:52,743 --> 03:21:55,612
equipment that they need to

5053
03:21:55,612 --> 03:21:58,615
pay so it per se we have a

5054
03:21:58,615 --> 03:22:00,618
hurricane and all of those 30

5055
03:22:00,618 --> 03:22:02,954
transformers are now destroyed

5056
03:22:02,954 --> 03:22:04,556
who pays rules 10 because the

5057
03:22:04,556 --> 03:22:07,556
citizen should only pay for

5058
03:22:07,658 --> 03:22:08,726
the 20 that service us if if

5059
03:22:08,726 --> 03:22:09,460
the hurricane damages, all of

5060
03:22:09,460 --> 03:22:13,600
them and that dennis should be

5061
03:22:13,640 --> 03:22:14,765
in the before me that they

5062
03:22:14,765 --> 03:22:15,866
figure out when they restore

5063
03:22:15,866 --> 03:22:17,134
that power and bring that back

5064
03:22:17,134 --> 03:22:17,835
they should be responsible for

5065
03:22:17,835 --> 03:22:20,835
their 10 it shouldn't be the

5066
03:22:22,730 --> 03:22:23,441
citizens paying for. The

5067
03:22:23,441 --> 03:22:25,376
entire 30 along with the data

5068
03:22:25,376 --> 03:22:26,110
center because now they've

5069
03:22:26,110 --> 03:22:29,710
kind their cost has been thank

5070
03:22:31,915 --> 03:22:33,915
you.

5071
03:22:34,852 --> 03:22:37,252
>> angela years the commission

5072
03:22:37,922 --> 03:22:39,990
to adopt strong enforceable

5073
03:22:39,990 --> 03:22:42,390
land-use before committing any

5074
03:22:43,194 --> 03:22:45,594
project florida's 2026 cs cs

5075
03:22:46,164 --> 03:22:46,864
sb 4, 8, now chapter 2026 65,

5076
03:22:46,864 --> 03:22:48,864
specifically recognizes that

5077
03:22:49,299 --> 03:22:49,934
largely facility such as data

5078
03:22:49,934 --> 03:22:51,934
centers creating planning

5079
03:22:53,304 --> 03:22:54,720
infrastructure part of

5080
03:22:54,720 --> 03:22:54,772
concerns it also preserves

5081
03:22:54,772 --> 03:22:55,439
local government authority

5082
03:22:55,439 --> 03:22:57,439
over comprehensive planning

5083
03:22:57,509 --> 03:22:58,442
and land

5084
03:22:58,442 --> 03:22:59,110
development regulation north

5085
03:22:59,110 --> 03:23:01,510
port should use protective

5086
03:23:03,848 --> 03:23:05,149
residents. A should require

5087
03:23:05,149 --> 03:23:05,850
substantial setbacks from

5088
03:23:05,850 --> 03:23:06,550
neighborhood schools, parks,

5089
03:23:06,550 --> 03:23:08,550
and environmentally sensitive

5090
03:23:10,521 --> 03:23:12,390
areas. And forceful noise

5091
03:23:12,390 --> 03:23:13,324
limit measured at neighboring

5092
03:23:13,324 --> 03:23:13,991
properties disclosure of

5093
03:23:13,991 --> 03:23:14,626
monitoring of water

5094
03:23:14,626 --> 03:23:16,626
consumption and detailed

5095
03:23:16,994 --> 03:23:18,994
information on electricity

5096
03:23:19,963 --> 03:23:20,965
demand cooling systems back up

5097
03:23:20,965 --> 03:23:21,800
generation and infrastructure

5098
03:23:21,800 --> 03:23:23,734
impacts the city must also

5099
03:23:23,734 --> 03:23:25,360
protect itself that the

5100
03:23:25,360 --> 03:23:26,737
developers projections prove

5101
03:23:26,737 --> 03:23:27,905
inaccurate what happened

5102
03:23:27,905 --> 03:23:29,874
actual noise water used and

5103
03:23:29,874 --> 03:23:30,875
traffic infrastructure needs

5104
03:23:30,875 --> 03:23:31,942
or employment to for

5105
03:23:31,942 --> 03:23:33,110
substantially from the

5106
03:23:33,110 --> 03:23:33,878
promises made during a purple

5107
03:23:33,878 --> 03:23:34,479
there must be enforceable

5108
03:23:34,479 --> 03:23:35,679
mitigation requirements

5109
03:23:35,679 --> 03:23:37,679
ongoing monitoring and

5110
03:23:39,650 --> 03:23:40,352
consequences, not simply

5111
03:23:40,352 --> 03:23:42,487
assurances. He might impacts

5112
03:23:42,487 --> 03:23:43,120
must also be consider multiple

5113
03:23:43,120 --> 03:23:43,821
data centers could play

5114
03:23:43,821 --> 03:23:44,555
significant demands on north

5115
03:23:44,555 --> 03:23:46,824
port's water supply electrical

5116
03:23:46,824 --> 03:23:47,858
system roads and

5117
03:23:47,858 --> 03:23:49,661
neighborhoods. I urge the

5118
03:23:49,661 --> 03:23:50,928
commission to strengthen the

5119
03:23:50,928 --> 03:23:51,762
uldc before approving these

5120
03:23:51,762 --> 03:23:53,398
facilities and to ensure that

5121
03:23:53,398 --> 03:23:54,265
no project can automatically

5122
03:23:54,265 --> 03:23:56,665
expand its allowable impacts

5123
03:23:58,350 --> 03:24:00,350
intensity water cassidy

5124
03:24:00,905 --> 03:24:01,639
without proper without public

5125
03:24:01,639 --> 03:24:03,740
notice and commissioner purple

5126
03:24:03,740 --> 03:24:04,809
please provide infrastructure

5127
03:24:04,809 --> 03:24:05,509
capacity water resources,

5128
03:24:05,509 --> 03:24:06,210
environmental protection and

5129
03:24:06,210 --> 03:24:06,744
long-term community planning

5130
03:24:06,744 --> 03:24:08,744
ahead of expedited

5131
03:24:10,448 --> 03:24:12,316
development. Said the good

5132
03:24:12,316 --> 03:24:12,950
morning commissioners. My name

5133
03:24:12,950 --> 03:24:14,151
is writes, I'm calling in

5134
03:24:14,151 --> 03:24:16,187
today with the direct mandate

5135
03:24:16,187 --> 03:24:16,787
for this time we demand the

5136
03:24:16,787 --> 03:24:18,560
immediate drafting and

5137
03:24:18,560 --> 03:24:18,656
enactment a permit wellfield

5138
03:24:18,656 --> 03:24:19,290
protection ordinance as

5139
03:24:19,290 --> 03:24:21,690
written directly into our

5140
03:24:22,930 --> 03:24:24,930
local land development

5141
03:24:24,128 --> 03:24:25,630
regulations when senate bill

5142
03:24:25,630 --> 03:24:25,964
4, 8, 4, we're done with the

5143
03:24:25,964 --> 03:24:27,650
administrative delays 12 month

5144
03:24:27,650 --> 03:24:27,799
study task force or legally

5145
03:24:27,799 --> 03:24:30,199
risky moratoriums that trigger

5146
03:24:31,102 --> 03:24:31,769
multimillion-dollar developer

5147
03:24:31,769 --> 03:24:32,736
lawsuits under the judicial

5148
03:24:32,736 --> 03:24:33,371
pending ordinance doctor and

5149
03:24:33,371 --> 03:24:35,874
you have the legal author

5150
03:24:35,874 --> 03:24:36,774
authority right now to

5151
03:24:36,774 --> 03:24:37,975
officially announced you're

5152
03:24:37,975 --> 03:24:39,244
tracking these water

5153
03:24:39,244 --> 03:24:39,978
protections instantly freezing

5154
03:24:39,978 --> 03:24:40,645
any new hyperscale data center

5155
03:24:40,645 --> 03:24:42,645
applications from sneaking

5156
03:24:43,480 --> 03:24:44,115
into our borders protect hands

5157
03:24:44,115 --> 03:24:47,115
use sb for tech florida's

5158
03:24:48,452 --> 03:24:49,153
water right now. David I I was

5159
03:24:49,153 --> 03:24:51,822
shocked to see if anything is

5160
03:24:51,822 --> 03:24:53,124
done on this agenda item that

5161
03:24:53,124 --> 03:24:54,592
is meaningful. It doesn't

5162
03:24:54,592 --> 03:24:55,293
assign that has been discussed

5163
03:24:55,293 --> 03:24:55,993
as neither sustainable nor is

5164
03:24:55,993 --> 03:24:57,895
it compatible with how a c 6

5165
03:24:57,895 --> 03:25:01,666
was to find all the water need

5166
03:25:01,666 --> 03:25:02,733
to come from the city. How is

5167
03:25:02,733 --> 03:25:03,367
that possible with existing

5168
03:25:03,367 --> 03:25:06,367
city plans to help system

5169
03:25:06,938 --> 03:25:08,572
properties to water the uldc

5170
03:25:08,572 --> 03:25:09,774
also needs to be rewritten as

5171
03:25:09,774 --> 03:25:10,575
to how it affects the

5172
03:25:10,575 --> 03:25:12,243
neighborhoods of north port

5173
03:25:12,243 --> 03:25:12,943
truly disgusting work by

5174
03:25:12,943 --> 03:25:13,645
development services who

5175
03:25:13,645 --> 03:25:16,645
clearly have to guard quality

5176
03:25:17,480 --> 03:25:19,884
of life and the residents. The

5177
03:25:19,884 --> 03:25:20,985
part of the uldc rewrite and

5178
03:25:20,985 --> 03:25:22,120
fletcher's move to eliminate

5179
03:25:22,120 --> 03:25:22,720
the commission from its do

5180
03:25:22,720 --> 03:25:24,720
legislative function is

5181
03:25:24,922 --> 03:25:25,657
already being seen and if not

5182
03:25:25,657 --> 03:25:26,391
fixed. Now will have terrible

5183
03:25:26,391 --> 03:25:29,991
repercussions on the city as a

5184
03:25:30,962 --> 03:25:32,964
place to live. David good

5185
03:25:32,964 --> 03:25:34,132
morning commissioners, I'm a

5186
03:25:34,132 --> 03:25:35,233
homeowner in north port, I'm

5187
03:25:35,233 --> 03:25:36,901
reading today. Pretty direct

5188
03:25:36,901 --> 03:25:37,902
mandate. We demand the

5189
03:25:37,902 --> 03:25:38,803
immediate drafting and

5190
03:25:38,803 --> 03:25:39,370
enactment a permanent

5191
03:25:39,370 --> 03:25:40,104
wellfield protection

5192
03:25:40,104 --> 03:25:40,771
ordinances right directly into

5193
03:25:40,771 --> 03:25:41,439
our local land development

5194
03:25:41,439 --> 03:25:43,839
regulations on the florida

5195
03:25:44,943 --> 03:25:46,945
senate bill 4, 8, 4, trait of

5196
03:25:46,945 --> 03:25:47,579
delays 12 month study task

5197
03:25:47,579 --> 03:25:48,212
force were legally risky

5198
03:25:48,212 --> 03:25:50,212
moratoriums that trigger

5199
03:25:50,915 --> 03:25:51,482
multi-million dollar developer

5200
03:25:51,482 --> 03:25:52,184
lawsuit part of that

5201
03:25:52,184 --> 03:25:52,884
additional pending ordinance

5202
03:25:52,884 --> 03:25:53,484
doctor and you have the legal

5203
03:25:53,484 --> 03:25:54,218
authority right now to

5204
03:25:54,218 --> 03:25:56,387
officially announce your draft

5205
03:25:56,387 --> 03:25:57,154
these water protections

5206
03:25:57,154 --> 03:25:57,756
instantly freezing any new

5207
03:25:57,756 --> 03:25:58,423
hyperscale data center

5208
03:25:58,423 --> 03:26:00,423
applications from sneaking

5209
03:26:00,725 --> 03:26:01,459
into our borders, media

5210
03:26:01,459 --> 03:26:02,126
attention is needed to protect

5211
03:26:02,126 --> 03:26:05,726
our city and it's awful for

5212
03:26:07,732 --> 03:26:09,670
him. The should have been in

5213
03:26:09,670 --> 03:26:09,734
place before the city manager

5214
03:26:09,734 --> 03:26:12,734
MISTER Talks and who knows

5215
03:26:12,937 --> 03:26:13,971
what else what data center

5216
03:26:13,971 --> 03:26:15,139
representatives owners. It

5217
03:26:15,139 --> 03:26:16,374
center's will positive for the

5218
03:26:16,374 --> 03:26:18,430
city as residents why the ndi

5219
03:26:18,430 --> 03:26:18,843
we don't want center's our

5220
03:26:18,843 --> 03:26:19,778
city it's not the answer to

5221
03:26:19,778 --> 03:26:20,411
the financial shortfalls or

5222
03:26:20,411 --> 03:26:22,811
whatever reason this was

5223
03:26:23,481 --> 03:26:26,218
entered into by sting m it

5224
03:26:26,218 --> 03:26:26,952
makes absolutely 0 sense

5225
03:26:26,952 --> 03:26:27,652
considering water for even the

5226
03:26:27,652 --> 03:26:30,421
population is in question we

5227
03:26:30,421 --> 03:26:31,456
have no idea what tax breaks

5228
03:26:31,456 --> 03:26:33,391
concessions except and what we

5229
03:26:33,391 --> 03:26:35,560
are actually want to gain from

5230
03:26:35,560 --> 03:26:36,294
it's all this to me is an

5231
03:26:36,294 --> 03:26:38,620
outright lie, all the citizens

5232
03:26:38,620 --> 03:26:38,763
of north port every animal and

5233
03:26:38,763 --> 03:26:41,432
really makes no sense I would

5234
03:26:41,432 --> 03:26:43,401
much prefer being sued end up

5235
03:26:43,401 --> 03:26:45,403
like flint michigan please

5236
03:26:45,403 --> 03:26:46,710
please do whatever is

5237
03:26:46,710 --> 03:26:47,500
necessary to centers in our

5238
03:26:47,500 --> 03:26:47,739
city, including the

5239
03:26:47,739 --> 03:26:51,939
current one sure that and ii I

5240
03:26:54,912 --> 03:26:55,547
thank you l. Donna measures,

5241
03:26:55,547 --> 03:26:56,714
I'm writing to express my

5242
03:26:56,714 --> 03:26:58,783
strong opposition to any

5243
03:26:58,783 --> 03:27:00,752
framework under agenda item 26

5244
03:27:00,752 --> 03:27:02,220
dash 1051 that allows

5245
03:27:02,220 --> 03:27:03,788
exemptions or grandfather

5246
03:27:03,788 --> 03:27:04,689
bought this for industrial

5247
03:27:04,689 --> 03:27:05,723
development specifically

5248
03:27:05,723 --> 03:27:07,723
pending 896,000 square-foot

5249
03:27:08,760 --> 03:27:09,460
your facility to bypass strict

5250
03:27:09,460 --> 03:27:10,128
zoning freezes last year the

5251
03:27:10,128 --> 03:27:12,128
commission's acknowledgment

5252
03:27:12,830 --> 03:27:13,999
that are you know city

5253
03:27:13,999 --> 03:27:15,933
completely the necessary

5254
03:27:15,933 --> 03:27:16,835
guardrails to manage these

5255
03:27:16,835 --> 03:27:18,835
heavy operations any

5256
03:27:19,737 --> 03:27:20,438
regulatory updates must be

5257
03:27:20,438 --> 03:27:22,600
prepared with a comprehensive

5258
03:27:22,600 --> 03:27:23,841
hall active reviews a lot

5259
03:27:23,841 --> 03:27:24,542
existing applications to

5260
03:27:24,542 --> 03:27:25,210
progress well we scramble to

5261
03:27:25,210 --> 03:27:27,578
write the rules defeats the

5262
03:27:27,578 --> 03:27:28,513
purpose of levels protections

5263
03:27:28,513 --> 03:27:29,281
our community cannot absorb

5264
03:27:29,281 --> 03:27:29,814
the severe long-term impacts

5265
03:27:29,814 --> 03:27:31,814
of these facilities

5266
03:27:32,183 --> 03:27:34,180
infrastructure and utilities

5267
03:27:34,180 --> 03:27:35,920
strong these facilities place

5268
03:27:35,920 --> 03:27:36,822
monumental demands on

5269
03:27:36,822 --> 03:27:37,489
electrical grids and water

5270
03:27:37,489 --> 03:27:38,322
resources starting utility

5271
03:27:38,322 --> 03:27:41,322
stability and pass to the

5272
03:27:41,526 --> 03:27:42,260
residential neighborhoods,

5273
03:27:42,260 --> 03:27:45,260
noisy environment and that and

5274
03:27:45,997 --> 03:27:46,731
that environmental degradation

5275
03:27:46,731 --> 03:27:48,767
when they have industrial

5276
03:27:48,767 --> 03:27:49,300
chillers and backup diesel

5277
03:27:49,300 --> 03:27:51,300
generators place to

5278
03:27:51,802 --> 03:27:52,771
residential and logical

5279
03:27:52,771 --> 03:27:54,505
frontal sounds introduces

5280
03:27:54,505 --> 03:27:55,140
chronic frequency noise

5281
03:27:55,140 --> 03:27:55,807
pollution thermal strain,

5282
03:27:55,807 --> 03:27:56,508
minimal local pay off these

5283
03:27:56,508 --> 03:27:58,908
facilities operate on massive

5284
03:27:59,945 --> 03:28:01,113
footprints that are highly

5285
03:28:01,113 --> 03:28:01,679
automated producing negligible

5286
03:28:01,679 --> 03:28:03,679
long-term employment

5287
03:28:03,915 --> 03:28:05,283
opportunities for north port

5288
03:28:05,283 --> 03:28:07,185
residents. Once construction

5289
03:28:07,185 --> 03:28:08,186
and I urge the commission to

5290
03:28:08,186 --> 03:28:10,955
enforce year for a complete

5291
03:28:10,955 --> 03:28:13,355
moratorium on all development

5292
03:28:13,925 --> 03:28:14,825
sure but any new uldc land-use

5293
03:28:14,825 --> 03:28:16,825
regulations certainly

5294
03:28:16,994 --> 03:28:17,156
protect north port

5295
03:28:17,156 --> 03:28:17,315
infrastructure natural

5296
03:28:17,315 --> 03:28:19,315
resources and neighborhoods

5297
03:28:21,300 --> 03:28:22,333
from industrial to petition.

5298
03:28:22,333 --> 03:28:23,234
Mayor commissioners I support

5299
03:28:23,234 --> 03:28:25,234
ordinance number 2026 dash 25

5300
03:28:26,938 --> 03:28:28,206
and the temporary moratorium

5301
03:28:28,206 --> 03:28:28,974
on new expanding a dozen or

5302
03:28:28,974 --> 03:28:31,843
days in north port, I'm not

5303
03:28:31,843 --> 03:28:32,477
opposed to responsible

5304
03:28:32,477 --> 03:28:33,645
development technology or

5305
03:28:33,645 --> 03:28:34,846
economic growth, I'm opposed

5306
03:28:34,846 --> 03:28:35,547
to making long-term decisions

5307
03:28:35,547 --> 03:28:36,247
with potentially significant

5308
03:28:36,247 --> 03:28:38,647
consequences before we fully

5309
03:28:38,917 --> 03:28:39,684
understand consequences.

5310
03:28:39,684 --> 03:28:40,418
Centers are fundamentally

5311
03:28:40,418 --> 03:28:42,520
different from the development

5312
03:28:42,520 --> 03:28:44,690
port has traditionally planned

5313
03:28:44,690 --> 03:28:45,390
for they can play significant

5314
03:28:45,390 --> 03:28:46,558
demands of electrical

5315
03:28:46,558 --> 03:28:47,758
infrastructure water resources

5316
03:28:47,758 --> 03:28:48,427
land and other infrastructure

5317
03:28:48,427 --> 03:28:50,427
while potentially creating

5318
03:28:51,229 --> 03:28:53,331
relatively few permanent jobs

5319
03:28:53,331 --> 03:28:54,432
that does not automatically

5320
03:28:54,432 --> 03:28:55,567
make it doesn't port it means

5321
03:28:55,567 --> 03:28:58,503
we should know exactly what we

5322
03:28:58,503 --> 03:28:59,171
are green to before we agree

5323
03:28:59,171 --> 03:29:00,272
to the moratorium give the

5324
03:29:00,272 --> 03:29:02,474
city time to answer critical

5325
03:29:02,474 --> 03:29:03,374
questions. What are the water

5326
03:29:03,374 --> 03:29:04,809
and electric man's who pays

5327
03:29:04,809 --> 03:29:05,477
for report of a structure

5328
03:29:05,477 --> 03:29:06,211
residents be protected from

5329
03:29:06,211 --> 03:29:08,211
noise generators environmental

5330
03:29:09,214 --> 03:29:09,948
impacts and incompatible land

5331
03:29:09,948 --> 03:29:12,948
uses well as economic benefits

5332
03:29:13,117 --> 03:29:15,220
port receive in return. And

5333
03:29:15,220 --> 03:29:17,155
what happens at the facility

5334
03:29:17,155 --> 03:29:18,156
expands or it use its use

5335
03:29:18,156 --> 03:29:19,290
changes question should be

5336
03:29:19,290 --> 03:29:19,924
answered through policy before

5337
03:29:19,924 --> 03:29:20,592
an application sitting in

5338
03:29:20,592 --> 03:29:23,227
front of the commission and

5339
03:29:23,227 --> 03:29:23,829
the city is under pressure to

5340
03:29:23,829 --> 03:29:24,529
act north port has one

5341
03:29:24,529 --> 03:29:25,163
opportunity to establish the

5342
03:29:25,163 --> 03:29:27,199
rules be for this type of

5343
03:29:27,199 --> 03:29:27,899
development arrives at scale.

5344
03:29:27,899 --> 03:29:31,469
Moratorium is not a it's not

5345
03:29:31,469 --> 03:29:32,737
until we now I respectfully

5346
03:29:32,737 --> 03:29:33,605
urge commission to approve

5347
03:29:33,605 --> 03:29:36,500
ordinance 2026 dash 25 and use

5348
03:29:38,343 --> 03:29:39,278
this time establish and

5349
03:29:39,278 --> 03:29:40,278
forceful standards ensuring

5350
03:29:40,278 --> 03:29:40,979
any future center provides a

5351
03:29:40,979 --> 03:29:43,979
genuine net benefit to north

5352
03:29:45,784 --> 03:29:46,451
port that's residence. Just I

5353
03:29:46,451 --> 03:29:47,252
support commission putting

5354
03:29:47,252 --> 03:29:47,952
standards in place to prevent

5355
03:29:47,952 --> 03:29:50,952
things like data centers and

5356
03:29:50,955 --> 03:29:51,489
other unwanted industries.

5357
03:29:51,489 --> 03:29:53,792
Imagine if want to

5358
03:29:53,792 --> 03:29:55,761
commissioner back to the 3 of

5359
03:29:55,761 --> 03:29:57,562
you to put more time into the

5360
03:29:57,562 --> 03:29:58,297
uldc you actually commissioner

5361
03:29:58,297 --> 03:29:58,997
langdon a previous meeting you

5362
03:29:58,997 --> 03:30:01,997
mentioned not having it first

5363
03:30:02,200 --> 03:30:04,435
of all fortunately you did you

5364
03:30:04,435 --> 03:30:05,236
she backs you to take more

5365
03:30:05,236 --> 03:30:05,970
time with the uldc and he

5366
03:30:05,970 --> 03:30:09,474
tooth and nail not I think you

5367
03:30:09,474 --> 03:30:10,208
guys forget that we go back

5368
03:30:10,208 --> 03:30:13,879
and meetings to see who was in

5369
03:30:13,879 --> 03:30:15,880
the wrong side things.

5370
03:30:15,880 --> 03:30:16,981
Christina that I support and

5371
03:30:16,981 --> 03:30:17,682
acting stringent regulations

5372
03:30:17,682 --> 03:30:18,283
within the uldc vergara data

5373
03:30:18,283 --> 03:30:20,683
centers and expect said

5374
03:30:20,819 --> 03:30:23,121
regulations to apply to

5375
03:30:23,121 --> 03:30:23,989
applicant for the current are

5376
03:30:23,989 --> 03:30:24,589
entered port is not the

5377
03:30:24,589 --> 03:30:25,189
appropriate place for a

5378
03:30:25,189 --> 03:30:25,657
900,000 square-foot car

5379
03:30:25,657 --> 03:30:27,657
stopped center.

5380
03:30:30,629 --> 03:30:31,296
Florida a center in north port

5381
03:30:31,296 --> 03:30:34,366
we don't need or want this

5382
03:30:34,366 --> 03:30:36,534
technology. We don't have

5383
03:30:36,534 --> 03:30:37,569
water to not a single resident

5384
03:30:37,569 --> 03:30:39,338
wants to pay extra for we need

5385
03:30:39,338 --> 03:30:41,473
more trees not last we don't

5386
03:30:41,473 --> 03:30:42,207
want to see or hear the

5387
03:30:42,207 --> 03:30:42,908
government says it will

5388
03:30:42,908 --> 03:30:45,344
provide peace and safety and

5389
03:30:45,344 --> 03:30:46,278
we need to stay ahead of china

5390
03:30:46,278 --> 03:30:46,945
and technology we don't want

5391
03:30:46,945 --> 03:30:47,612
the surveillance like china

5392
03:30:47,612 --> 03:30:50,480
has we don't need a social

5393
03:30:50,480 --> 03:30:52,318
credit score like china where

5394
03:30:52,318 --> 03:30:54,718
the government controls where

5395
03:30:55,860 --> 03:30:55,920
we go and what we and cannot

5396
03:30:55,920 --> 03:30:56,788
government control needs to

5397
03:30:56,788 --> 03:30:57,489
stop in america, our

5398
03:30:57,489 --> 03:30:58,156
forefathers our freedom north

5399
03:30:58,156 --> 03:30:58,556
port needs to stop by power

5400
03:30:58,556 --> 03:31:00,556
arrive. We

5401
03:31:04,295 --> 03:31:06,231
the people. Let I support

5402
03:31:06,231 --> 03:31:07,320
putting strict regulations in

5403
03:31:07,320 --> 03:31:07,699
place for data center cesar

5404
03:31:07,699 --> 03:31:08,433
massive industrial projects

5405
03:31:08,433 --> 03:31:10,635
and they should not be allowed

5406
03:31:10,635 --> 03:31:12,635
residential areas without

5407
03:31:12,671 --> 03:31:13,471
strong setbacks noise limits

5408
03:31:13,471 --> 03:31:14,139
creating public port to keep

5409
03:31:14,139 --> 03:31:16,539
are proving major projects

5410
03:31:16,908 --> 03:31:19,908
that. First worrying about the

5411
03:31:20,278 --> 03:31:21,213
impact on residents later

5412
03:31:21,213 --> 03:31:24,213
protect the people who are

5413
03:31:24,883 --> 03:31:27,850
already here before approving

5414
03:31:27,850 --> 03:31:28,200
large-scale development. A

5415
03:31:28,200 --> 03:31:28,720
neighbors in massive debt

5416
03:31:28,720 --> 03:31:29,287
developer is eyeing our city

5417
03:31:29,287 --> 03:31:32,287
and we must stop weak

5418
03:31:32,524 --> 03:31:33,858
regulations from destroying

5419
03:31:33,858 --> 03:31:34,659
our neighborhoods regarding 26

5420
03:31:34,659 --> 03:31:35,293
dash 1051 we need to demand

5421
03:31:35,293 --> 03:31:37,693
that the city commission

5422
03:31:39,764 --> 03:31:40,565
that's the absolute strictest

5423
03:31:40,565 --> 03:31:41,200
protections possible and are

5424
03:31:41,200 --> 03:31:43,200
unified land development

5425
03:31:44,570 --> 03:31:46,638
center's eyeing our region

5426
03:31:46,638 --> 03:31:47,739
will turn north korea into an

5427
03:31:47,739 --> 03:31:48,540
industrial dumping ground

5428
03:31:48,540 --> 03:31:49,441
current covid isn't built for

5429
03:31:49,441 --> 03:31:50,108
this we need to demand

5430
03:31:50,108 --> 03:31:52,108
stricter protections before

5431
03:31:53,211 --> 03:31:54,513
any development is approved

5432
03:31:54,513 --> 03:31:56,248
massive setbacks keep that far

5433
03:31:56,248 --> 03:31:58,150
away from homes neighborhoods

5434
03:31:58,150 --> 03:31:58,817
and green spaces strict noise

5435
03:31:58,817 --> 03:32:01,817
for a stop to 24 frequency

5436
03:32:02,955 --> 03:32:03,588
humming for systems resource

5437
03:32:03,588 --> 03:32:04,289
protections tap water and

5438
03:32:04,289 --> 03:32:06,458
power use residents are step

5439
03:32:06,458 --> 03:32:07,359
the soaring utility bills, no

5440
03:32:07,359 --> 03:32:08,590
tax breaks make them pay their

5441
03:32:08,590 --> 03:32:10,395
fair share support for local

5442
03:32:10,395 --> 03:32:10,996
infrastructure, they exhaust,

5443
03:32:10,996 --> 03:32:11,530
let's protect our piece

5444
03:32:11,530 --> 03:32:13,530
property values and

5445
03:32:16,901 --> 03:32:18,360
environment. Dimartino good

5446
03:32:18,360 --> 03:32:19,537
morning commissioners. My name

5447
03:32:19,537 --> 03:32:20,205
is sam and I'm commenting

5448
03:32:20,205 --> 03:32:20,772
today with a direct mandate

5449
03:32:20,772 --> 03:32:22,607
for the we demand the

5450
03:32:22,607 --> 03:32:23,808
immediate drafting and

5451
03:32:23,808 --> 03:32:25,808
enactment a permanent

5452
03:32:25,911 --> 03:32:26,645
wellfield protection ordinance

5453
03:32:26,645 --> 03:32:27,346
as written directly into our

5454
03:32:27,346 --> 03:32:29,346
local development regulations

5455
03:32:29,514 --> 03:32:31,914
under florida senate bill 4,

5456
03:32:32,684 --> 03:32:33,352
8, 4, we're done with them in

5457
03:32:33,352 --> 03:32:34,190
a straight-up delays study

5458
03:32:34,190 --> 03:32:34,753
task force or legally risky

5459
03:32:34,753 --> 03:32:37,153
moratoriums that multi million

5460
03:32:37,756 --> 03:32:38,423
dollar developer lawsuits. I

5461
03:32:38,423 --> 03:32:39,124
really did initial pending

5462
03:32:39,124 --> 03:32:42,124
ordinance doctor and you have

5463
03:32:42,394 --> 03:32:44,290
the legal authority right now

5464
03:32:44,290 --> 03:32:44,596
to officially announce your

5465
03:32:44,596 --> 03:32:45,264
job and these actions

5466
03:32:45,264 --> 03:32:45,964
instantly freezing any new

5467
03:32:45,964 --> 03:32:47,964
hyperscale data applications

5468
03:32:48,667 --> 03:32:49,634
from seeping into our borders.

5469
03:32:49,634 --> 03:32:50,335
The political line in the sand

5470
03:32:50,335 --> 03:32:51,350
is down today. The community

5471
03:32:51,350 --> 03:32:54,350
is tracking exactly into the

5472
03:32:55,707 --> 03:32:57,609
stands. Stacey motion. More

5473
03:32:57,609 --> 03:32:58,510
for you nbc to specifically

5474
03:32:58,510 --> 03:32:59,845
state that the construction of

5475
03:32:59,845 --> 03:33:00,579
data centers will not be

5476
03:33:00,579 --> 03:33:02,979
allowed anywhere northward and

5477
03:33:05,817 --> 03:33:09,417
that is all have right. Thank

5478
03:33:09,922 --> 03:33:10,222
>> request a give it a shot

5479
03:33:10,222 --> 03:33:12,222
then.

5480
03:33:13,925 --> 03:33:14,626
>> see what everybody thinks

5481
03:33:14,626 --> 03:33:18,226
make a motion to direct city

5482
03:33:20,965 --> 03:33:22,167
attorney. In the process

5483
03:33:22,167 --> 03:33:22,968
drifting strong regulation

5484
03:33:22,968 --> 03:33:25,368
that addresses the issues

5485
03:33:26,370 --> 03:33:26,739
water our air quality and

5486
03:33:26,739 --> 03:33:29,407
regarding data centers in the

5487
03:33:29,407 --> 03:33:30,676
city of port and to provide

5488
03:33:30,676 --> 03:33:31,243
monthly updates to the

5489
03:33:31,243 --> 03:33:33,243
commission and public

5490
03:33:34,113 --> 03:33:34,780
meetings.

5491
03:33:34,780 --> 03:33:38,380
>> it read it one more time

5492
03:33:40,180 --> 03:33:40,652
please.

5493
03:33:40,652 --> 03:33:42,554
>> we can to direct city

5494
03:33:42,554 --> 03:33:45,554
attorney to begin the process

5495
03:33:46,192 --> 03:33:47,250
of drafting strong regulations

5496
03:33:47,250 --> 03:33:50,250
that address the issues of

5497
03:33:50,128 --> 03:33:50,830
water, our air quality and

5498
03:33:50,830 --> 03:33:53,230
noise regarding data centers

5499
03:33:53,565 --> 03:33:55,100
in the city of port and to

5500
03:33:55,100 --> 03:33:55,701
provide monthly updates to the

5501
03:33:55,701 --> 03:33:57,402
commission in a public

5502
03:33:57,402 --> 03:33:59,402
meeting.

5503
03:34:01,840 --> 03:34:02,541
>> second that motion.

5504
03:34:02,541 --> 03:34:05,477
>> have a motion on the floor

5505
03:34:05,477 --> 03:34:06,145
made by commissioner stokes

5506
03:34:06,145 --> 03:34:09,145
seconded by vice mayor was

5507
03:34:18,657 --> 03:34:21,570
there any discussion. Passes 5

5508
03:34:32,171 --> 03:34:35,771
to 0. Motion. I'd like to make

5509
03:34:38,376 --> 03:34:41,976
where this to make the motion.

5510
03:34:44,583 --> 03:34:46,819
To have the city attorney.

5511
03:34:46,819 --> 03:34:47,753
Look into as the citizens put

5512
03:34:47,753 --> 03:34:48,788
like to have the city attorney

5513
03:34:48,788 --> 03:34:51,188
looking into the well

5514
03:34:52,391 --> 03:34:53,125
protections under sb 4.84. And

5515
03:34:53,125 --> 03:34:56,725
see what the legalities are on

5516
03:34:57,829 --> 03:34:59,829
moving forward.

5517
03:35:00,232 --> 03:35:00,832
>> we have a motion on the

5518
03:35:00,832 --> 03:35:03,232
floor to instruct city

5519
03:35:05,337 --> 03:35:07,373
attorney to a value way.

5520
03:35:07,373 --> 03:35:09,773
>> so well field protections

5521
03:35:11,760 --> 03:35:13,579
could you under sb 44 under sb

5522
03:35:13,579 --> 03:35:14,246
4.84 and bring that back to

5523
03:35:14,246 --> 03:35:17,246
the commission. If you need

5524
03:35:25,224 --> 03:35:26,424
show. Second

5525
03:35:26,424 --> 03:35:28,561
>> that motion has been

5526
03:35:28,561 --> 03:35:29,427
seconded by commissioner stow

5527
03:35:29,427 --> 03:35:32,598
still want to read that back

5528
03:35:32,598 --> 03:35:34,634
to a city clerk to to direct

5529
03:35:34,634 --> 03:35:36,335
the city attorney to evaluate

5530
03:35:36,335 --> 03:35:37,200
wellfield protections under sb

5531
03:35:37,200 --> 03:35:40,200
44 and provide an update to

5532
03:35:41,106 --> 03:35:43,506
mission public meeting. There

5533
03:35:43,943 --> 03:35:47,543
is nothing more to do let's

5534
03:35:50,616 --> 03:35:52,616
foe.

5535
03:35:55,540 --> 03:35:55,687
That motion passes 5 to 0.

5536
03:35:55,687 --> 03:35:58,687
>> I want to show another

5537
03:36:05,730 --> 03:36:06,898
motion she was just back to me

5538
03:36:06,898 --> 03:36:09,898
>> to city attorney to look

5539
03:36:10,736 --> 03:36:13,205
the county. For to see how it

5540
03:36:13,205 --> 03:36:17,405
can be up late. To our city

5541
03:36:18,310 --> 03:36:19,278
give us

5542
03:36:19,278 --> 03:36:20,446
feedback. Give feedback to the

5543
03:36:20,446 --> 03:36:22,846
commission how to proceed.

5544
03:36:26,518 --> 03:36:27,352
Second that. And when.

5545
03:36:27,352 --> 03:36:28,200
>> we have a motion on the

5546
03:36:28,200 --> 03:36:28,720
floor made by commissioner

5547
03:36:28,720 --> 03:36:30,489
petro city clerk and you read

5548
03:36:30,489 --> 03:36:32,489
that back please.

5549
03:36:35,361 --> 03:36:36,362
>> he said the lucia county to

5550
03:36:36,362 --> 03:36:37,429
direct the city attorney to

5551
03:36:37,429 --> 03:36:38,130
evaluate the bliss a county

5552
03:36:38,130 --> 03:36:38,764
ordinance and see how it can

5553
03:36:38,764 --> 03:36:39,331
be acceptable to port and

5554
03:36:39,331 --> 03:36:41,731
provide an update to

5555
03:36:42,134 --> 03:36:43,350
commission a public meeting.

5556
03:36:43,350 --> 03:36:45,671
>> thank you that was made

5557
03:36:45,671 --> 03:36:46,338
commissioner petro seconded by

5558
03:36:46,338 --> 03:36:47,700
commissioner stills there's

5559
03:36:47,700 --> 03:36:49,407
nothing to the committee's

5560
03:36:59,952 --> 03:37:00,686
vote. And passes 5 to 0. And

5561
03:37:00,686 --> 03:37:03,860
anything else commissioners on

5562
03:37:07,225 --> 03:37:07,960
this topic.

5563
03:37:07,960 --> 03:37:08,660
>> we've got a we've been here

5564
03:37:08,660 --> 03:37:09,362
for about an hour and a half

5565
03:37:09,362 --> 03:37:12,362
we're going to take about 10

5566
03:37:31,646 --> 03:37:32,313
>> and brandon what do you

5567
03:37:32,313 --> 03:37:33,815
listen to this listen to my

5568
03:37:33,815 --> 03:37:36,815
cpr plus what's on that

5569
03:37:37,585 --> 03:37:38,553
staying alive.

5570
03:37:38,553 --> 03:37:39,454
>> I'm zach and this is travis

5571
03:37:39,454 --> 03:37:42,190
from north port fire rescue.

5572
03:37:42,190 --> 03:37:45,190
>> and I'm brandon. And this

5573
03:37:47,610 --> 03:37:50,661
is brad from the north port

5574
03:37:51,867 --> 03:37:53,867
aquatic center.

5575
03:37:55,636 --> 03:37:56,437
>> 26 regarding process for

5576
03:37:56,437 --> 03:37:58,837
commission haitian of all

5577
03:37:59,541 --> 03:38:00,141
around the globe nondisclosure

5578
03:38:00,141 --> 03:38:02,541
agreements and this was

5579
03:38:03,444 --> 03:38:04,679
requested by commissioner

5580
03:38:04,679 --> 03:38:05,313
stavros I'm just going to

5581
03:38:05,313 --> 03:38:07,713
fostering go straight to

5582
03:38:11,352 --> 03:38:12,153
commissioner are. Well.

5583
03:38:12,153 --> 03:38:13,187
>> so wait little bit of

5584
03:38:13,187 --> 03:38:13,921
background I nondisclosure

5585
03:38:13,921 --> 03:38:16,321
agreements are used everywhere

5586
03:38:18,459 --> 03:38:20,162
every use. Private sector that

5587
03:38:20,162 --> 03:38:20,728
in the public sector they are

5588
03:38:20,728 --> 03:38:21,563
there for the purpose

5589
03:38:21,563 --> 03:38:23,563
protecting proprietary

5590
03:38:26,434 --> 03:38:29,300
information they make sense, I

5591
03:38:29,300 --> 03:38:31,403
mean even commissioner a

5592
03:38:32,973 --> 03:38:33,541
project and he is entitled to

5593
03:38:33,541 --> 03:38:34,409
it and his proprietor

5594
03:38:34,409 --> 03:38:36,809
interests in plans should

5595
03:38:39,581 --> 03:38:41,449
protected that said I do not

5596
03:38:41,449 --> 03:38:43,849
believe any elected any

5597
03:38:45,186 --> 03:38:45,920
government anywhere should

5598
03:38:45,920 --> 03:38:47,389
ever not know what's going and

5599
03:38:47,389 --> 03:38:49,789
for that every commissioner

5600
03:38:51,493 --> 03:38:54,162
should be read every nba that

5601
03:38:54,162 --> 03:38:57,332
comes before the ones that are

5602
03:38:57,332 --> 03:38:58,320
in forward in the future.

5603
03:38:58,320 --> 03:39:01,320
Appreciate the fact that when

5604
03:39:04,539 --> 03:39:05,773
we're ready that

5605
03:39:05,773 --> 03:39:06,441
>> that due to my fellow

5606
03:39:06,441 --> 03:39:08,841
commissioners open up this

5607
03:39:08,843 --> 03:39:09,577
discussion and see where we go

5608
03:39:09,577 --> 03:39:12,280
because we do need to fix this

5609
03:39:12,280 --> 03:39:12,947
problem.

5610
03:39:12,947 --> 03:39:14,947
>> commissioner petro your

5611
03:39:20,822 --> 03:39:24,422
first. Vice mayor you are and

5612
03:39:27,428 --> 03:39:28,960
then yes, thank you

5613
03:39:28,960 --> 03:39:28,696
>> city attorney. Could you

5614
03:39:28,696 --> 03:39:30,531
briefly comment on the

5615
03:39:30,531 --> 03:39:32,931
legality of and da's.

5616
03:39:37,171 --> 03:39:37,872
>> there's nothing inherently

5617
03:39:37,872 --> 03:39:40,872
illegal. You know the schools

5618
03:39:44,790 --> 03:39:47,790
are granted. There is statue

5619
03:39:47,415 --> 03:39:51,319
that are in the a's to rise

5620
03:39:51,319 --> 03:39:52,530
and section 2 88.4 7, 5,

5621
03:39:52,530 --> 03:39:54,789
florida statues for that is an

5622
03:39:54,789 --> 03:39:57,189
exemption. To the general

5623
03:39:59,594 --> 03:40:01,994
public workers requirement is

5624
03:40:02,464 --> 03:40:04,464
that records themselves.

5625
03:40:06,468 --> 03:40:07,168
Considering sending 4 year.

5626
03:40:07,168 --> 03:40:10,768
And for things are days that

5627
03:40:14,475 --> 03:40:16,744
could be extended and so

5628
03:40:16,744 --> 03:40:18,547
that's where you were has

5629
03:40:18,547 --> 03:40:22,147
spent but I what standards are

5630
03:40:25,520 --> 03:40:29,720
and then the going have say. I

5631
03:40:31,927 --> 03:40:35,527
think probably is and what was

5632
03:40:39,670 --> 03:40:39,834
for dollar meant to extended,

5633
03:40:39,834 --> 03:40:43,434
you know just into for all

5634
03:40:43,504 --> 03:40:46,107
stages for lack a better term

5635
03:40:46,107 --> 03:40:48,507
there's illegal about that.

5636
03:40:49,177 --> 03:40:52,177
Florida sunshine first it was

5637
03:40:53,682 --> 03:40:57,180
just going sign it's just a

5638
03:40:57,180 --> 03:41:00,180
matter promising call so you

5639
03:41:00,555 --> 03:41:02,555
all about

5640
03:41:05,293 --> 03:41:06,428
>> I another question.

5641
03:41:06,428 --> 03:41:09,428
>> can the city legally be

5642
03:41:11,733 --> 03:41:14,733
selective. And what kinds of

5643
03:41:15,603 --> 03:41:18,300
projects are situations. Under

5644
03:41:18,841 --> 03:41:22,744
which are in which it well. A

5645
03:41:22,744 --> 03:41:26,314
lot when are not allow and

5646
03:41:26,314 --> 03:41:27,882
then da so I guess more simply

5647
03:41:27,882 --> 03:41:30,785
if someone requests an we

5648
03:41:30,785 --> 03:41:34,385
required to get it and it's

5649
03:41:35,190 --> 03:41:37,590
not under what circumstances.

5650
03:41:40,128 --> 03:41:41,229
>> to go back to statute all

5651
03:41:41,229 --> 03:41:44,229
without statue is general and

5652
03:41:48,470 --> 03:41:50,870
for raises are coming 4.

5653
03:41:52,674 --> 03:41:55,740
That's what the statute

5654
03:41:58,747 --> 03:42:02,217
intended for the nba's go for

5655
03:42:02,217 --> 03:42:06,321
it. So I don't think that we

5656
03:42:06,321 --> 03:42:08,290
would productivity for

5657
03:42:08,290 --> 03:42:10,690
limiting that class of

5658
03:42:12,160 --> 03:42:12,860
businesses that you would

5659
03:42:12,860 --> 03:42:13,462
extend into comply or statute

5660
03:42:13,462 --> 03:42:15,862
in terms public records

5661
03:42:25,507 --> 03:42:28,507
exemptions. And. And so could

5662
03:42:29,310 --> 03:42:30,478
and so you bottle up being the

5663
03:42:30,478 --> 03:42:34,678
is however you want ok so was

5664
03:42:34,849 --> 03:42:35,517
specific in that question.

5665
03:42:35,517 --> 03:42:38,517
>> a data center is allowed

5666
03:42:39,555 --> 03:42:40,121
under our is a and allowed use

5667
03:42:40,121 --> 03:42:42,121
under our industrial

5668
03:42:45,960 --> 03:42:46,695
classification.

5669
03:42:46,695 --> 03:42:50,865
>> if we wanted to ban and the

5670
03:42:50,865 --> 03:42:51,700
a's on data centers.

5671
03:42:51,700 --> 03:42:55,737
>> would we have to do it at

5672
03:42:55,737 --> 03:42:57,737
the industrial classification

5673
03:42:58,240 --> 03:42:58,974
or could we pick and choose

5674
03:42:58,974 --> 03:43:01,910
the title of business or

5675
03:43:01,910 --> 03:43:03,278
situation within that

5676
03:43:03,278 --> 03:43:04,179
classification to either agree

5677
03:43:04,179 --> 03:43:07,549
or disagree to enter into an

5678
03:43:07,549 --> 03:43:09,949
nda with that company.

5679
03:43:11,953 --> 03:43:15,553
>> is so I think you could.

5680
03:43:17,920 --> 03:43:19,920
Decide classification heavy

5681
03:43:19,161 --> 03:43:23,361
and all just want date is you

5682
03:43:23,465 --> 03:43:25,300
get up and your and sole

5683
03:43:25,300 --> 03:43:27,700
always 30 days correct but

5684
03:43:31,373 --> 03:43:34,373
that still nod. The business

5685
03:43:35,410 --> 03:43:36,110
behind the questing. Exemption

5686
03:43:36,110 --> 03:43:38,411
from public records and

5687
03:43:43,885 --> 03:43:44,586
statutes. Do themselves could

5688
03:43:44,586 --> 03:43:47,586
still exempt from public form

5689
03:43:50,759 --> 03:43:53,662
of the law. Other part of that

5690
03:43:53,662 --> 03:43:57,262
has such important for you all

5691
03:43:57,933 --> 03:43:58,667
years where you have not

5692
03:43:58,667 --> 03:44:01,670
there's ethics rule that's

5693
03:44:04,940 --> 03:44:05,640
chapter want prohibit is

5694
03:44:05,640 --> 03:44:08,400
elected officials say chinese

5695
03:44:10,145 --> 03:44:12,145
city for disclosing

5696
03:44:15,840 --> 03:44:15,784
information that is not all

5697
03:44:15,784 --> 03:44:18,784
that was readily available to

5698
03:44:20,210 --> 03:44:20,723
of for personal gain. So in

5699
03:44:20,723 --> 03:44:23,123
circumstances even if you're

5700
03:44:25,930 --> 03:44:25,761
getting the result, story to

5701
03:44:25,761 --> 03:44:29,361
say where the issue came to

5702
03:44:30,966 --> 03:44:33,966
me. The your official duties

5703
03:44:40,750 --> 03:44:42,110
that they was I told him that

5704
03:44:42,110 --> 03:44:44,790
you know that because they

5705
03:44:44,790 --> 03:44:44,780
haven't filed in that case

5706
03:44:44,780 --> 03:44:48,380
because it's just not and I

5707
03:44:53,210 --> 03:44:56,621
told you that. And use that.

5708
03:44:59,495 --> 03:45:01,596
Private your. Status as

5709
03:45:01,596 --> 03:45:03,996
elected official for private

5710
03:45:07,936 --> 03:45:10,936
gain political you sprawl on

5711
03:45:12,708 --> 03:45:13,409
chapter want well and so

5712
03:45:13,409 --> 03:45:14,760
sometimes that says you know

5713
03:45:14,760 --> 03:45:17,760
call whether or there's no

5714
03:45:18,314 --> 03:45:20,714
anyway that's what say.

5715
03:45:21,416 --> 03:45:25,160
>> that he out of water shows

5716
03:45:26,540 --> 03:45:26,755
always the shots are

5717
03:45:26,755 --> 03:45:29,755
everything to gain states as

5718
03:45:29,825 --> 03:45:32,225
commission to playing ball.

5719
03:45:34,330 --> 03:45:37,330
>> and related. From from what

5720
03:45:39,768 --> 03:45:42,768
I understand. Staff signs nda

5721
03:45:45,140 --> 03:45:47,209
with any company. Every member

5722
03:45:47,209 --> 03:45:47,910
of staff and every single

5723
03:45:47,910 --> 03:45:50,910
commissioner is bound by that

5724
03:45:53,480 --> 03:45:55,448
nda is that correct.

5725
03:45:55,451 --> 03:45:59,510
>> I think the nba, you have

5726
03:45:59,288 --> 03:46:02,288
place say for reasons that's

5727
03:46:03,158 --> 03:46:03,859
because out the 80's self care

5728
03:46:03,859 --> 03:46:06,259
about which was commissioned

5729
03:46:09,898 --> 03:46:10,766
in 2020 that essentially

5730
03:46:10,766 --> 03:46:11,500
authorized the manager to

5731
03:46:11,500 --> 03:46:15,300
execute rooms and want send it

5732
03:46:15,300 --> 03:46:18,603
go forward. And so yes down

5733
03:46:19,441 --> 03:46:21,441
tomorrow. Acquiescence into

5734
03:46:25,480 --> 03:46:28,351
law agency. That doesn't mean

5735
03:46:28,351 --> 03:46:29,510
you're aging your ceo turning

5736
03:46:29,510 --> 03:46:31,553
members to go out and do this

5737
03:46:31,553 --> 03:46:34,189
for you and that's how found

5738
03:46:34,189 --> 03:46:38,389
by in kind of what the the

5739
03:46:43,999 --> 03:46:45,234
question present it has okay.

5740
03:46:45,234 --> 03:46:45,901
>> now when you don't have to

5741
03:46:45,901 --> 03:46:49,501
be down JUNE 2 you can take

5742
03:46:53,420 --> 03:46:54,844
that that. Well. Based what

5743
03:46:54,844 --> 03:46:56,178
the product is that we have

5744
03:46:56,178 --> 03:46:59,581
place now that that apply over

5745
03:46:59,581 --> 03:46:59,915
that's what we have.

5746
03:46:59,915 --> 03:47:01,915
>> so.

5747
03:47:09,892 --> 03:47:10,559
>> yeah. This body decides.

5748
03:47:10,559 --> 03:47:13,559
>> that we be reading into

5749
03:47:15,364 --> 03:47:18,964
every nda that the city. Wants

5750
03:47:21,136 --> 03:47:22,238
to has engaged I would

5751
03:47:22,238 --> 03:47:24,638
certainly recommend that we

5752
03:47:29,845 --> 03:47:31,880
signed the nda. Only because I

5753
03:47:31,880 --> 03:47:35,480
have a concern well before I

5754
03:47:35,484 --> 03:47:38,484
go there what's the penalty.

5755
03:47:38,987 --> 03:47:41,900
>> so let's say one of us gets

5756
03:47:41,900 --> 03:47:44,900
information with or without an

5757
03:47:44,626 --> 03:47:45,194
nda. Let's say was an nda.

5758
03:47:45,194 --> 03:47:47,594
>> and we share that

5759
03:47:49,198 --> 03:47:52,198
information. A member of the

5760
03:47:52,334 --> 03:47:54,334
community.

5761
03:47:54,904 --> 03:47:55,437
>> what's the penalty for that

5762
03:47:55,437 --> 03:47:58,437
to the city and the

5763
03:48:00,876 --> 03:48:02,876
individual.

5764
03:48:10,953 --> 03:48:11,620
>> it religion to it statue to

5765
03:48:11,620 --> 03:48:14,620
I presented that second in

5766
03:48:17,393 --> 03:48:19,294
second degree misdemeanor. If

5767
03:48:19,294 --> 03:48:23,494
you do on a think so 30 days

5768
03:48:23,866 --> 03:48:24,566
and up to 30 days in jail. Why

5769
03:48:24,566 --> 03:48:25,300
would you know things of that

5770
03:48:25,300 --> 03:48:28,900
nature so you could be looking

5771
03:48:30,390 --> 03:48:34,239
at joe if you want which is

5772
03:48:37,460 --> 03:48:37,679
time to act. Both the city

5773
03:48:37,679 --> 03:48:40,790
could be looking basement

5774
03:48:43,719 --> 03:48:44,853
which contracts too and get

5775
03:48:44,853 --> 03:48:47,853
outside the school year duties

5776
03:48:48,570 --> 03:48:49,926
as a commissioner violating as

5777
03:48:49,926 --> 03:48:50,660
possible could be looking at

5778
03:48:50,660 --> 03:48:53,600
individual civil liability and

5779
03:48:53,950 --> 03:48:54,329
so it's a double penalty both

5780
03:48:54,329 --> 03:48:56,432
to the city and to the

5781
03:48:56,432 --> 03:48:56,866
individual who discloses the

5782
03:48:56,866 --> 03:48:58,866
information.

5783
03:49:00,402 --> 03:49:01,690
>> possibly, yes, possibly.

5784
03:49:01,690 --> 03:49:04,690
>> okay, I'll yield for now

5785
03:49:04,506 --> 03:49:05,173
thank you for the time.

5786
03:49:05,173 --> 03:49:07,173
>> commissioner spoke city

5787
03:49:10,546 --> 03:49:14,146
attorney I. I get under the

5788
03:49:14,851 --> 03:49:15,785
present agreement and sign

5789
03:49:15,785 --> 03:49:16,552
call it is the commission by

5790
03:49:16,552 --> 03:49:20,152
virtue of agency I would still

5791
03:49:22,792 --> 03:49:23,492
pose vice mayor said that.

5792
03:49:23,492 --> 03:49:24,860
Commissioner should be if we

5793
03:49:24,860 --> 03:49:27,529
decide to go this route that

5794
03:49:27,529 --> 03:49:30,529
all commissioners p not just

5795
03:49:33,101 --> 03:49:34,370
bound by it through through.

5796
03:49:34,370 --> 03:49:35,804
Illegal definition of agency

5797
03:49:35,804 --> 03:49:36,472
but rather actually signed

5798
03:49:36,472 --> 03:49:38,174
nba's so that we are on the

5799
03:49:38,174 --> 03:49:38,841
hope for them and here's the

5800
03:49:38,841 --> 03:49:42,441
other thing I wanted to ask

5801
03:49:44,813 --> 03:49:45,448
you. So. We commissioned let's

5802
03:49:45,448 --> 03:49:49,480
say our panel they do use

5803
03:49:50,920 --> 03:49:51,587
center. And as a good example.

5804
03:49:51,587 --> 03:49:55,187
Had we reading on that and

5805
03:49:59,862 --> 03:50:00,529
down by it. We didn't disclose

5806
03:50:00,529 --> 03:50:00,863
we need to say anything to

5807
03:50:00,863 --> 03:50:01,464
anybody

5808
03:50:01,464 --> 03:50:05,640
about but what we do is

5809
03:50:06,235 --> 03:50:06,969
instruct.

5810
03:50:06,969 --> 03:50:08,938
>> you stay you and your staff

5811
03:50:08,938 --> 03:50:11,338
we instructed city too.

5812
03:50:15,544 --> 03:50:17,944
Relations. To take action.

5813
03:50:20,950 --> 03:50:23,786
With regard to. To the project

5814
03:50:23,786 --> 03:50:26,786
for which. We had a

5815
03:50:27,323 --> 03:50:29,323
confidential information.

5816
03:50:29,792 --> 03:50:33,992
Would that reach of the nba or

5817
03:50:35,164 --> 03:50:37,467
will we be allowed to do that.

5818
03:50:37,467 --> 03:50:38,101
>> mean I didn't say exactly

5819
03:50:38,101 --> 03:50:41,101
as clean as should asking

5820
03:50:41,838 --> 03:50:42,237
you're if you learn about

5821
03:50:42,237 --> 03:50:44,237
something.

5822
03:50:44,273 --> 03:50:47,273
>> and then want to stop

5823
03:50:48,878 --> 03:50:49,579
project can

5824
03:50:49,579 --> 03:50:53,179
>> was that was that was that

5825
03:50:54,117 --> 03:50:55,618
it pretty much the question.

5826
03:50:55,618 --> 03:50:58,180
>> it's a closer question

5827
03:51:00,423 --> 03:51:01,657
again you would be are up is

5828
03:51:01,657 --> 03:51:02,258
that issue that I spoke about

5829
03:51:02,258 --> 03:51:05,258
are you doing that for

5830
03:51:08,731 --> 03:51:11,167
personal are you doing that

5831
03:51:11,167 --> 03:51:12,435
because there is so great good

5832
03:51:12,435 --> 03:51:14,835
that's involved probably good.

5833
03:51:17,473 --> 03:51:18,740
I think you problem. Don't

5834
03:51:18,740 --> 03:51:18,774
think

5835
03:51:18,774 --> 03:51:21,774
that there's anything in the

5836
03:51:25,314 --> 03:51:28,914
he so could say. During that

5837
03:51:29,585 --> 03:51:30,252
would be breach of contract

5838
03:51:30,252 --> 03:51:33,852
>> look about the so so let

5839
03:51:34,423 --> 03:51:37,727
let me restate this. So had we

5840
03:51:37,727 --> 03:51:41,927
all be very have we know how

5841
03:51:45,735 --> 03:51:46,435
this state sen. And directed

5842
03:51:46,435 --> 03:51:49,435
staff to regulations and that

5843
03:51:54,644 --> 03:51:57,440
regulation. Instead to hearing

5844
03:51:59,849 --> 03:52:00,549
you saying we're probably not.

5845
03:52:00,549 --> 03:52:04,149
Homes or not liable under the

5846
03:52:09,959 --> 03:52:13,559
nda. Well with that we bus

5847
03:52:14,297 --> 03:52:15,365
line will asked. Commissioners

5848
03:52:15,365 --> 03:52:19,565
and more of the city to the

5849
03:52:19,568 --> 03:52:20,302
apple again

5850
03:52:20,302 --> 03:52:23,902
cool we question of the school

5851
03:52:24,307 --> 03:52:28,507
and then but the I mean you

5852
03:52:29,311 --> 03:52:29,979
see what I'm asking.

5853
03:52:29,979 --> 03:52:32,979
>> it's a closer question I

5854
03:52:34,617 --> 03:52:35,317
think you're I think you're I

5855
03:52:35,317 --> 03:52:38,317
think the city will probably

5856
03:52:39,540 --> 03:52:39,655
not liable. And it's

5857
03:52:39,655 --> 03:52:41,655
individual commissioner

5858
03:52:46,262 --> 03:52:48,662
probably not labeled either.

5859
03:52:50,299 --> 03:52:52,299
>> got question.

5860
03:52:54,204 --> 03:52:54,837
>> let's say. That we took the

5861
03:52:54,837 --> 03:52:58,407
stand today and we made a

5862
03:52:58,407 --> 03:53:02,112
motion. And we put it back to

5863
03:53:02,112 --> 03:53:03,179
where it only follow state

5864
03:53:03,179 --> 03:53:03,846
statute. The public records

5865
03:53:03,846 --> 03:53:07,517
part you know we go back to

5866
03:53:07,517 --> 03:53:09,850
the original on board. And

5867
03:53:09,850 --> 03:53:09,786
then the it comes in because

5868
03:53:09,786 --> 03:53:10,520
nobody's touched on this part

5869
03:53:10,520 --> 03:53:14,720
of it because not only did the

5870
03:53:15,725 --> 03:53:17,270
commission. Not know about it

5871
03:53:17,270 --> 03:53:17,727
neither did the citizens so

5872
03:53:17,727 --> 03:53:21,327
when nba would happen to come

5873
03:53:22,299 --> 03:53:25,899
in. Holding off on all the

5874
03:53:26,535 --> 03:53:29,535
public records. But would we

5875
03:53:29,539 --> 03:53:31,440
be allowed to discuss up here

5876
03:53:31,440 --> 03:53:33,376
on the dias be agenda item

5877
03:53:33,376 --> 03:53:34,110
saying hey guess what this

5878
03:53:34,110 --> 03:53:36,510
individual has put application

5879
03:53:37,947 --> 03:53:38,648
for x y and z. We want to have

5880
03:53:38,648 --> 03:53:41,651
a discussion on it, but yeah,

5881
03:53:41,651 --> 03:53:42,352
I know public records are

5882
03:53:42,352 --> 03:53:43,920
available. But can discussion

5883
03:53:43,920 --> 03:53:44,621
take place to get to citizens

5884
03:53:44,621 --> 03:53:48,221
on board as early as possible

5885
03:53:51,160 --> 03:53:54,297
as well. A couple months ago

5886
03:53:54,297 --> 03:53:56,566
and there's no clear what the

5887
03:53:56,566 --> 03:53:58,966
attorney general the paintings

5888
03:54:01,738 --> 03:54:03,738
I believe.

5889
03:54:04,273 --> 03:54:06,273
>> 2005 2007 dress that issue

5890
03:54:10,513 --> 03:54:13,513
saying that the public records

5891
03:54:14,751 --> 03:54:17,821
exemption does not shoe show a

5892
03:54:17,821 --> 03:54:19,422
law so what that would be to

5893
03:54:19,422 --> 03:54:22,422
take that concluded state was

5894
03:54:24,727 --> 03:54:27,127
inclusion and then probably

5895
03:54:29,265 --> 03:54:33,465
hearing all of the staff of ad

5896
03:54:33,602 --> 03:54:37,202
about the the problem that you

5897
03:54:37,607 --> 03:54:40,607
MAY get injunction for. But

5898
03:54:42,278 --> 03:54:43,120
again all that because real

5899
03:54:43,120 --> 03:54:45,412
has addressed attorney general

5900
03:54:47,417 --> 03:54:48,617
and those

5901
03:54:48,617 --> 03:54:49,719
>> kind the world as you on

5902
03:54:49,719 --> 03:54:50,519
and just to take it just a

5903
03:54:50,519 --> 03:54:53,923
little bit further and I'm not

5904
03:54:53,923 --> 03:54:54,658
saying that once the

5905
03:54:54,658 --> 03:54:55,324
commission got the information

5906
03:54:55,324 --> 03:54:57,226
they're going to go out and

5907
03:54:57,226 --> 03:54:58,594
blab it all over the place

5908
03:54:58,594 --> 03:54:59,229
let's just say commissioner

5909
03:54:59,229 --> 03:55:01,597
had talk with the citizen

5910
03:55:01,597 --> 03:55:05,168
about hey guess what you know

5911
03:55:05,168 --> 03:55:05,902
casual conversation this is

5912
03:55:05,902 --> 03:55:08,902
what's common. Now a citizenry

5913
03:55:09,272 --> 03:55:11,407
has found out about that out

5914
03:55:11,407 --> 03:55:12,575
there and now they're

5915
03:55:12,575 --> 03:55:13,242
demanding answers and you know

5916
03:55:13,242 --> 03:55:13,943
saying hey we want to talk

5917
03:55:13,943 --> 03:55:17,543
about this then we could put

5918
03:55:17,580 --> 03:55:18,748
it on the agenda to enlighten

5919
03:55:18,748 --> 03:55:19,382
with whatever information we

5920
03:55:19,382 --> 03:55:21,217
have regardless you know

5921
03:55:21,217 --> 03:55:24,217
exempting the public record so

5922
03:55:24,588 --> 03:55:25,255
I'm just trying to get this to

5923
03:55:25,255 --> 03:55:25,955
where we have open playing

5924
03:55:25,955 --> 03:55:28,955
field to work gets everybody

5925
03:55:34,297 --> 03:55:36,697
involved. Possibly in the

5926
03:55:37,400 --> 03:55:38,101
future I'm that clear ones you

5927
03:55:38,101 --> 03:55:41,101
go west turn general. That's

5928
03:55:41,237 --> 03:55:41,939
it's okay point

5929
03:55:41,939 --> 03:55:44,939
>> well when have dinner with

5930
03:55:45,141 --> 03:55:47,141
him haha.

5931
03:55:47,243 --> 03:55:49,243
>> commissioner euro. Thank

5932
03:55:50,647 --> 03:55:52,647
you

5933
03:55:54,884 --> 03:55:56,853
>> I did not prepare for this

5934
03:55:56,853 --> 03:55:57,520
agenda I just want to see

5935
03:55:57,520 --> 03:55:59,755
cussing goals because they

5936
03:55:59,755 --> 03:56:02,425
don't know what nothing on the

5937
03:56:02,425 --> 03:56:03,600
part of the agenda item but it

5938
03:56:03,600 --> 03:56:04,494
kinda for waited a couple

5939
03:56:04,494 --> 03:56:06,894
questions as we. Were

5940
03:56:12,235 --> 03:56:12,902
conversing here. Generally

5941
03:56:12,902 --> 03:56:15,902
speaking that public not a

5942
03:56:18,541 --> 03:56:19,175
bomb nda. Having you know and

5943
03:56:19,175 --> 03:56:22,175
the is a common practice

5944
03:56:23,847 --> 03:56:24,281
course business conducting

5945
03:56:24,281 --> 03:56:26,281
business but

5946
03:56:28,752 --> 03:56:29,318
the government and that and

5947
03:56:29,318 --> 03:56:31,318
specifically protect

5948
03:56:35,992 --> 03:56:36,727
proprietary. Secrets. And it's

5949
03:56:36,727 --> 03:56:40,927
a good point you know with the

5950
03:56:41,531 --> 03:56:42,198
specific. Point that we're

5951
03:56:42,198 --> 03:56:44,501
discussing and it is senate

5952
03:56:44,501 --> 03:56:48,101
right. I think there was so

5953
03:56:51,407 --> 03:56:52,750
much secrecy that. You know we

5954
03:56:52,750 --> 03:56:56,275
but this and you we all but

5955
03:56:57,214 --> 03:56:57,814
this nda. Which is kind of

5956
03:56:57,814 --> 03:57:00,214
ironic project of this

5957
03:57:01,217 --> 03:57:01,685
magnitude. You know the fact

5958
03:57:01,685 --> 03:57:04,850
that all of us.

5959
03:57:07,857 --> 03:57:12,570
Its own rules I can say almost

5960
03:57:12,629 --> 03:57:13,830
certain that it was done

5961
03:57:13,830 --> 03:57:16,767
purpose and by design to this

5962
03:57:16,767 --> 03:57:19,167
commission from this project.

5963
03:57:20,370 --> 03:57:24,570
And all we had to be. We're

5964
03:57:25,175 --> 03:57:28,175
going just over 5. But not.

5965
03:57:33,416 --> 03:57:34,284
And we're here. But I want

5966
03:57:34,284 --> 03:57:37,884
this question. So let's say do

5967
03:57:38,888 --> 03:57:39,622
this that we have to sign. And

5968
03:57:39,622 --> 03:57:42,220
personally as public officials

5969
03:57:42,625 --> 03:57:45,250
or elected officials. By

5970
03:57:46,630 --> 03:57:50,230
contrast to of the state of

5971
03:57:50,867 --> 03:57:51,635
U.S. Constitution. And I think

5972
03:57:51,635 --> 03:57:52,302
probably by the florida

5973
03:57:52,302 --> 03:57:54,702
constitution which have not

5974
03:57:54,904 --> 03:57:57,107
looked into it. I can say all.

5975
03:57:57,107 --> 03:58:00,707
And you know, I'm not going

5976
03:58:04,982 --> 03:58:06,215
sign it. If I had it. Also my

5977
03:58:06,215 --> 03:58:09,215
own. You know, I'm decisions

5978
03:58:13,756 --> 03:58:14,457
so there is a. There is a way

5979
03:58:14,457 --> 03:58:16,726
saying no and yes, my in the

5980
03:58:16,726 --> 03:58:18,661
correct me if I'm wrong. City

5981
03:58:18,661 --> 03:58:21,661
attorney my question now. So

5982
03:58:22,933 --> 03:58:23,633
if we come to that conclusion

5983
03:58:23,633 --> 03:58:26,102
that let let's fold and we've

5984
03:58:26,102 --> 03:58:26,737
opened by majority. Okay we're

5985
03:58:26,737 --> 03:58:29,600
going to have to sign it

5986
03:58:29,600 --> 03:58:30,474
personally. Do we have this

5987
03:58:30,474 --> 03:58:33,474
ability not to sign it

5988
03:58:35,245 --> 03:58:36,179
constitutionally.

5989
03:58:36,179 --> 03:58:36,813
>> I don't think that's

5990
03:58:36,813 --> 03:58:38,615
constitutional question I

5991
03:58:38,615 --> 03:58:41,685
think it's a question for the

5992
03:58:41,685 --> 03:58:45,285
border. 2 to one side not. I

5993
03:58:47,457 --> 03:58:48,891
don't constitutional. And

5994
03:58:48,891 --> 03:58:49,493
that's to deter news for

5995
03:58:49,493 --> 03:58:51,493
correct commissioner us

5996
03:58:51,661 --> 03:58:52,362
constitution not have to sign.

5997
03:58:52,362 --> 03:58:55,962
>> and the way to that's you

5998
03:58:59,360 --> 03:59:00,437
know. Right to. Freedom of

5999
03:59:00,437 --> 03:59:04,370
speech if you will to school

6000
03:59:04,400 --> 03:59:06,440
secret so. Whatever project

6001
03:59:09,790 --> 03:59:09,746
that is it.

6002
03:59:09,746 --> 03:59:12,746
>> so asking would you put

6003
03:59:14,684 --> 03:59:17,387
show speech. What I understand

6004
03:59:17,387 --> 03:59:20,387
question trying to get its.

6005
03:59:21,624 --> 03:59:23,624
Not easy answer.

6006
03:59:28,632 --> 03:59:31,134
>> it's just ask a follow-up

6007
03:59:31,134 --> 03:59:32,200
question to your back to the

6008
03:59:32,200 --> 03:59:32,736
conversation, yes, out keep

6009
03:59:32,736 --> 03:59:35,472
quiet after I get an answer to

6010
03:59:35,472 --> 03:59:36,730
this. But a follow-up.

6011
03:59:36,730 --> 03:59:38,730
>> commissioner petros

6012
03:59:38,875 --> 03:59:40,875
question.

6013
03:59:42,279 --> 03:59:44,279
>> whether or not.

6014
03:59:44,414 --> 03:59:46,814
>> we individually sign and

6015
03:59:48,652 --> 03:59:51,652
then da. My understanding is

6016
03:59:54,357 --> 03:59:54,958
we're to it.

6017
03:59:54,958 --> 03:59:57,958
>> by by virtue of the

6018
04:00:09,372 --> 04:00:10,940
intention. Having is correct.

6019
04:00:10,940 --> 04:00:11,575
>> the last part of sounds are

6020
04:00:11,575 --> 04:00:14,277
somewhat say a project is

6021
04:00:14,277 --> 04:00:14,945
coming and we we change our

6022
04:00:14,945 --> 04:00:16,945
policies. The commissioners

6023
04:00:19,549 --> 04:00:20,250
get ready and whenever every

6024
04:00:20,250 --> 04:00:23,850
time it and the a's executed

6025
04:00:24,870 --> 04:00:27,870
we're notified. And maybe our

6026
04:00:27,991 --> 04:00:31,127
policy is. We should if we're

6027
04:00:31,127 --> 04:00:34,727
going to be ready we should

6028
04:00:38,168 --> 04:00:40,300
sign. But my understanding is

6029
04:00:40,300 --> 04:00:40,670
whether or not we personally

6030
04:00:40,670 --> 04:00:43,670
signed that nda were still

6031
04:00:44,308 --> 04:00:45,420
bound by it.

6032
04:00:45,420 --> 04:00:46,710
>> guess another way of saying

6033
04:00:46,710 --> 04:00:49,710
what you're saying. Vice mayor

6034
04:00:51,147 --> 04:00:52,883
is

6035
04:00:52,883 --> 04:00:56,483
>> if you're not able to know.

6036
04:01:00,223 --> 04:01:00,624
>> once. Not not to be

6037
04:01:00,624 --> 04:01:02,624
disclosed.

6038
04:01:03,527 --> 04:01:04,161
>> so if you are that candice

6039
04:01:04,161 --> 04:01:08,361
co uk is low, so that you

6040
04:01:10,834 --> 04:01:15,340
don't know. So you what to not

6041
04:01:17,741 --> 04:01:18,442
be ready then you can goals

6042
04:01:18,442 --> 04:01:19,176
what you don't know and think

6043
04:01:19,176 --> 04:01:22,176
that's where whole issue about

6044
04:01:26,784 --> 04:01:27,918
being found friend. Who you.

6045
04:01:27,918 --> 04:01:30,821
It's so cold you something you

6046
04:01:30,821 --> 04:01:35,210
don't answer is all for and I

6047
04:01:37,627 --> 04:01:41,227
don't does not well were not

6048
04:01:42,767 --> 04:01:45,202
>> if you decided to use you

6049
04:01:45,202 --> 04:01:48,802
know that the or whatever and

6050
04:01:52,776 --> 04:01:56,976
he said yes there is a space

6051
04:01:57,814 --> 04:01:59,830
and you can't just the entire

6052
04:01:59,830 --> 04:02:02,830
organization has been about it

6053
04:02:05,222 --> 04:02:05,956
is that it of your all about

6054
04:02:05,956 --> 04:02:07,524
including commission. Just you

6055
04:02:07,524 --> 04:02:09,994
can't say something and you

6056
04:02:09,994 --> 04:02:14,194
don't so where we saw a where

6057
04:02:16,667 --> 04:02:19,569
are you. It hold we'll

6058
04:02:19,569 --> 04:02:21,569
resolution whether all.

6059
04:02:24,575 --> 04:02:25,275
>> that specific issue. Go

6060
04:02:25,275 --> 04:02:28,812
ahead and we still got to go

6061
04:02:28,812 --> 04:02:29,480
back know we're heading c.

6062
04:02:29,480 --> 04:02:30,147
>> you mentioned something

6063
04:02:30,147 --> 04:02:33,147
about the legal doctrine of

6064
04:02:36,854 --> 04:02:37,555
agency. So to city signs that

6065
04:02:37,555 --> 04:02:41,155
nda and we don't execute that

6066
04:02:42,526 --> 04:02:43,226
nda. She read it we we MAY be

6067
04:02:43,226 --> 04:02:46,226
best known soon jumping from

6068
04:02:48,599 --> 04:02:50,999
it. Every project. That's

6069
04:02:51,902 --> 04:02:55,502
forth before this say is run

6070
04:02:56,874 --> 04:02:58,109
by commission. The

6071
04:02:58,109 --> 04:03:00,109
administrative approval

6072
04:03:00,110 --> 04:03:03,110
process changes so that every

6073
04:03:04,415 --> 04:03:05,149
single project comes pest is

6074
04:03:05,149 --> 04:03:08,749
poor. We did that become aware

6075
04:03:09,860 --> 04:03:09,754
of projects that MAY well be.

6076
04:03:09,754 --> 04:03:12,754
Covered by so the question

6077
04:03:14,491 --> 04:03:16,827
then if we talk about if we

6078
04:03:16,827 --> 04:03:19,227
share information that was

6079
04:03:20,697 --> 04:03:21,765
that that that were made aware

6080
04:03:21,765 --> 04:03:22,466
of then you know what sort of

6081
04:03:22,466 --> 04:03:25,902
legal jeopardy or is there a

6082
04:03:25,902 --> 04:03:26,737
legal jeopardy. I'm sort of

6083
04:03:26,737 --> 04:03:28,737
seeing where commissioner

6084
04:03:32,543 --> 04:03:33,777
petrus perspective is let's

6085
04:03:33,777 --> 04:03:37,377
just do away with nba's and

6086
04:03:37,615 --> 04:03:38,515
let's just do and reversed the

6087
04:03:38,515 --> 04:03:39,149
administrative approval

6088
04:03:39,149 --> 04:03:42,149
process in the area that

6089
04:03:42,786 --> 04:03:45,786
allows. In minutes straight of

6090
04:03:50,427 --> 04:03:51,662
approval to be without a

6091
04:03:51,662 --> 04:03:53,230
public without transparency

6092
04:03:53,230 --> 04:03:53,931
inclusiveness make every

6093
04:03:53,931 --> 04:03:54,598
project come before the city

6094
04:03:54,598 --> 04:03:55,233
in a public setting so the

6095
04:03:55,233 --> 04:03:57,567
public and the commission

6096
04:03:57,567 --> 04:04:00,671
knows about it. That I don't

6097
04:04:00,671 --> 04:04:02,573
see how anybody has any

6098
04:04:02,573 --> 04:04:03,840
problems anywhere. And the

6099
04:04:03,840 --> 04:04:06,409
only thing that binds any

6100
04:04:06,409 --> 04:04:07,210
information is under the state

6101
04:04:07,210 --> 04:04:10,210
law that that controls public

6102
04:04:11,381 --> 04:04:13,781
records disclosure. That would

6103
04:04:13,984 --> 04:04:18,184
be cleaner and get all off the

6104
04:04:20,825 --> 04:04:21,358
hook and. Spotlight on all

6105
04:04:21,358 --> 04:04:23,694
this stuff. Back to

6106
04:04:23,694 --> 04:04:24,395
commissioner petro thank you

6107
04:04:24,395 --> 04:04:27,565
mayor. You've got ask what I

6108
04:04:27,565 --> 04:04:29,400
was going say.

6109
04:04:29,400 --> 04:04:30,670
>> so let's say for example

6110
04:04:30,670 --> 04:04:33,670
and that's just an example

6111
04:04:35,105 --> 04:04:35,773
data center and the 8. It was

6112
04:04:35,773 --> 04:04:38,173
not appropriate story davis

6113
04:04:39,143 --> 04:04:42,743
that today is right. So when

6114
04:04:43,147 --> 04:04:44,348
the public records request was

6115
04:04:44,348 --> 04:04:45,482
I think the didn't get it

6116
04:04:45,482 --> 04:04:48,482
until like 2 days after the

6117
04:04:50,788 --> 04:04:51,855
exo meaning. The discussion of

6118
04:04:51,855 --> 04:04:54,855
data center which was JULY

6119
04:04:56,226 --> 04:04:59,826
21st, I believe so. You know

6120
04:05:01,798 --> 04:05:02,500
some the base for example.

6121
04:05:02,500 --> 04:05:04,235
Could you know that location

6122
04:05:04,235 --> 04:05:06,635
maybe it. It's not

6123
04:05:09,907 --> 04:05:11,800
proprietary. But some are

6124
04:05:11,800 --> 04:05:14,800
trying cut rates for example.

6125
04:05:16,130 --> 04:05:18,548
You know. Could be and if we

6126
04:05:18,548 --> 04:05:22,148
had known that is about this

6127
04:05:23,860 --> 04:05:23,755
project we could still do. You

6128
04:05:23,755 --> 04:05:26,924
know talk about it but not

6129
04:05:26,924 --> 04:05:29,924
saying what exactly or. But

6130
04:05:35,900 --> 04:05:36,634
they're more concisely. So

6131
04:05:36,634 --> 04:05:39,370
it's transparent. It should be

6132
04:05:39,370 --> 04:05:41,770
secrets from pollock unless

6133
04:05:44,942 --> 04:05:45,609
it's a proprietary so

6134
04:05:45,609 --> 04:05:48,609
education came in JULY 20 I

6135
04:05:49,680 --> 04:05:52,150
believe. And the the public

6136
04:05:52,150 --> 04:05:54,550
request was still pending.

6137
04:05:57,921 --> 04:06:00,921
Proving the review. She was

6138
04:06:03,930 --> 04:06:03,794
correct me from front row.

6139
04:06:03,794 --> 04:06:04,462
Repressed was asking if there

6140
04:06:04,462 --> 04:06:06,862
is occasional submitted or

6141
04:06:09,967 --> 04:06:12,967
not. That thing proprietor so

6142
04:06:13,370 --> 04:06:16,370
that my question. We shouldn't

6143
04:06:17,574 --> 04:06:18,275
be hiding you know, and you

6144
04:06:18,275 --> 04:06:22,179
read the nba if this data set

6145
04:06:22,179 --> 04:06:25,583
some of them was basic stop

6146
04:06:25,583 --> 04:06:26,284
that was most of it was a

6147
04:06:26,284 --> 04:06:28,786
basic stop. So my question is

6148
04:06:28,786 --> 04:06:31,355
to to concur with commissioner

6149
04:06:31,355 --> 04:06:34,592
storms kind of a because he

6150
04:06:34,592 --> 04:06:36,992
expended to what extent.

6151
04:06:41,310 --> 04:06:41,699
>> and then new should be.

6152
04:06:41,699 --> 04:06:42,933
>> about the entire project

6153
04:06:42,933 --> 04:06:44,933
above everything proprietary

6154
04:06:52,209 --> 04:06:53,377
stall. So that's my question.

6155
04:06:53,377 --> 04:06:54,111
And I guess could discuss the

6156
04:06:54,111 --> 04:06:55,446
actual regulations in a public

6157
04:06:55,446 --> 04:06:58,446
setting for data center. We

6158
04:07:02,530 --> 04:07:02,720
went out disclosing any fender

6159
04:07:02,720 --> 04:07:05,123
develop size of project I'm

6160
04:07:05,123 --> 04:07:05,790
you know that will be

6161
04:07:05,790 --> 04:07:08,190
discussed publicly that we

6162
04:07:09,694 --> 04:07:10,395
would not violated any of nda.

6163
04:07:10,395 --> 04:07:13,395
But specific to this project

6164
04:07:15,967 --> 04:07:16,734
that was cat purpose. In

6165
04:07:16,734 --> 04:07:17,535
citrus, even from the

6166
04:07:17,535 --> 04:07:18,202
commission and that's not

6167
04:07:18,202 --> 04:07:20,710
right and I guess what the

6168
04:07:20,710 --> 04:07:23,710
next agenda item. If it's

6169
04:07:25,843 --> 04:07:26,577
first. The commission would be

6170
04:07:26,577 --> 04:07:27,245
well aware of all the projects

6171
04:07:27,245 --> 04:07:30,245
like this or projects they

6172
04:07:32,850 --> 04:07:33,551
have the 80's. Don't know I

6173
04:07:33,551 --> 04:07:36,154
mean my point very clear but

6174
04:07:36,154 --> 04:07:38,456
so that's where I stand. But

6175
04:07:38,456 --> 04:07:41,659
it's up to the board and I'm

6176
04:07:41,659 --> 04:07:42,359
willing to engaging for that

6177
04:07:42,359 --> 04:07:44,759
discussion. But what conclude

6178
04:07:48,199 --> 04:07:48,899
with this. If there's should

6179
04:07:48,899 --> 04:07:51,899
be specific to extent there's

6180
04:07:55,706 --> 04:07:56,373
and data centers and not vice

6181
04:07:56,373 --> 04:07:58,909
to any community, you know

6182
04:07:58,909 --> 04:08:01,813
it's you know they they come

6183
04:08:01,813 --> 04:08:03,281
almost states virtually where

6184
04:08:03,281 --> 04:08:06,281
the land is a bubble,

6185
04:08:07,452 --> 04:08:09,852
especially cheap went. But 2

6186
04:08:10,880 --> 04:08:10,788
home from the public

6187
04:08:10,788 --> 04:08:13,458
purposefully so they can get

6188
04:08:13,458 --> 04:08:14,192
the application in. I don't

6189
04:08:14,192 --> 04:08:16,794
think it's right I don't think

6190
04:08:16,794 --> 04:08:20,394
it's. Even medical to say the

6191
04:08:20,965 --> 04:08:25,300
least. I think and I made my

6192
04:08:25,300 --> 04:08:25,636
post facebook rant got a lot

6193
04:08:25,636 --> 04:08:28,636
of responses. But I think

6194
04:08:28,807 --> 04:08:31,842
we've to fail to our citizens.

6195
04:08:31,842 --> 04:08:34,842
Overall as a city this.

6196
04:08:36,460 --> 04:08:36,681
Obviously there were some.

6197
04:08:36,681 --> 04:08:38,681
Proprietary secrets that

6198
04:08:42,520 --> 04:08:42,787
should been kept. Over in the

6199
04:08:42,787 --> 04:08:46,987
to that to this extent what we

6200
04:08:50,128 --> 04:08:51,950
did it. I think it's not. As a

6201
04:08:51,950 --> 04:08:52,897
cold to say the least and I

6202
04:08:52,897 --> 04:08:53,564
think we ourselves a

6203
04:08:53,564 --> 04:08:55,399
disservice and the road to

6204
04:08:55,399 --> 04:08:57,799
citizens trust. And the

6205
04:08:59,870 --> 04:09:02,270
public. Officials which part

6206
04:09:05,209 --> 04:09:08,809
of and so. As a government

6207
04:09:09,130 --> 04:09:10,848
overall and in general, and

6208
04:09:10,848 --> 04:09:13,848
I'm not speaking against nba's

6209
04:09:14,218 --> 04:09:14,885
I'm speaking about the actual.

6210
04:09:14,885 --> 04:09:17,285
You know implementation of

6211
04:09:22,726 --> 04:09:26,598
nba's and how treat it. I read

6212
04:09:26,598 --> 04:09:27,365
document that was adopted in

6213
04:09:27,365 --> 04:09:29,765
FEBRUARY of 2021 which not

6214
04:09:31,200 --> 04:09:35,202
part of the board. We can take

6215
04:09:35,739 --> 04:09:39,939
a look at and see to what

6216
04:09:40,111 --> 04:09:41,579
extent we should be bob ended.

6217
04:09:41,579 --> 04:09:42,213
But if you did anything about

6218
04:09:42,213 --> 04:09:45,213
the project helping we be

6219
04:09:46,717 --> 04:09:50,317
bound by nba. Those are my.

6220
04:09:50,955 --> 04:09:51,723
$0.2 I this is the agenda

6221
04:09:51,723 --> 04:09:53,723
that. Commissioner still

6222
04:09:56,727 --> 04:09:58,562
brought it. So I want to hear

6223
04:09:58,562 --> 04:09:59,197
the no further discussion and

6224
04:09:59,197 --> 04:10:01,597
possible motion. What he

6225
04:10:02,366 --> 04:10:04,366
intends to do.

6226
04:10:04,469 --> 04:10:05,770
>> thank you mayor and

6227
04:10:05,770 --> 04:10:08,170
commissioner duval thank you

6228
04:10:10,875 --> 04:10:13,275
>> schools. The city these

6229
04:10:18,549 --> 04:10:19,250
lands. And it really colony.

6230
04:10:19,250 --> 04:10:22,250
>> also goal is services and

6231
04:10:22,620 --> 04:10:25,991
so is. We want to drill for

6232
04:10:25,991 --> 04:10:28,391
oil on city property.

6233
04:10:29,860 --> 04:10:33,231
>> and we wanted to be a. No

6234
04:10:33,231 --> 04:10:36,231
we've been going through I

6235
04:10:36,634 --> 04:10:40,834
would suggest we say no we not

6236
04:10:42,974 --> 04:10:45,974
an nda. As commissioner stolz

6237
04:10:47,912 --> 04:10:50,912
was already alluded to. Got

6238
04:10:56,520 --> 04:10:58,789
the city. Really call because

6239
04:10:58,789 --> 04:10:59,890
here it says I want drill in

6240
04:10:59,890 --> 04:11:02,890
the game. Although the bell

6241
04:11:05,129 --> 04:11:08,129
services tell all the the 5

6242
04:11:10,969 --> 04:11:12,204
commissioners make a decision.

6243
04:11:12,204 --> 04:11:16,404
Whether to keep all if we can

6244
04:11:17,208 --> 04:11:20,808
do to media must also. So

6245
04:11:22,790 --> 04:11:25,679
inclined to say. If you want

6246
04:11:29,870 --> 04:11:32,870
business with the city will

6247
04:11:35,260 --> 04:11:37,660
baseball no reason experience.

6248
04:11:42,467 --> 04:11:46,370
Being the spending I so can

6249
04:11:46,370 --> 04:11:48,370
agree with that.

6250
04:11:50,750 --> 04:11:52,475
>> that's thank you. Vice

6251
04:11:54,913 --> 04:11:58,513
>> yeah just a couple of I

6252
04:12:00,218 --> 04:12:02,220
understand that if. A company

6253
04:12:02,220 --> 04:12:04,355
a business and that he is

6254
04:12:04,355 --> 04:12:06,355
sharing proprietary secrets

6255
04:12:09,761 --> 04:12:10,495
with city staff. I'm hearing

6256
04:12:10,495 --> 04:12:11,696
that there wouldn't be an

6257
04:12:11,696 --> 04:12:14,960
objection necessarily to that

6258
04:12:19,738 --> 04:12:21,806
and ga. But I also know coming

6259
04:12:21,806 --> 04:12:22,473
from a world where and da's

6260
04:12:22,473 --> 04:12:23,408
are in every day a car and

6261
04:12:23,408 --> 04:12:26,408
time out of high tech.

6262
04:12:28,813 --> 04:12:30,813
>> and.

6263
04:12:33,510 --> 04:12:33,751
>> and the a's are just about

6264
04:12:33,751 --> 04:12:34,452
proprietary information when

6265
04:12:34,452 --> 04:12:36,852
and software companies would

6266
04:12:37,289 --> 04:12:40,889
come to us to share their

6267
04:12:44,162 --> 04:12:46,640
business plans. A lot of times

6268
04:12:46,640 --> 04:12:49,300
that in and of itself so not

6269
04:12:49,300 --> 04:12:50,100
technology secrets but their

6270
04:12:50,100 --> 04:12:53,100
business plans because of the

6271
04:12:53,438 --> 04:12:55,838
competitive exposure. Of that.

6272
04:12:55,907 --> 04:12:57,907
>> so.

6273
04:13:01,346 --> 04:13:02,681
>> to connect to the job.

6274
04:13:02,681 --> 04:13:05,651
We're spending as a city a lot

6275
04:13:05,651 --> 04:13:08,651
of effort trying to attract.

6276
04:13:11,322 --> 04:13:12,123
Companies from coming here. We

6277
04:13:12,123 --> 04:13:15,723
want jobs. We we want to

6278
04:13:15,994 --> 04:13:16,895
expand our commercial

6279
04:13:16,895 --> 04:13:18,997
footprint we want to help

6280
04:13:18,997 --> 04:13:20,131
alleviate some of the tax

6281
04:13:20,131 --> 04:13:23,434
burden from homes all of those

6282
04:13:23,434 --> 04:13:26,434
are wonderful things. And if

6283
04:13:28,339 --> 04:13:29,374
we throw and the a's. What

6284
04:13:29,374 --> 04:13:32,974
does that do to the likelihood

6285
04:13:34,579 --> 04:13:35,313
of companies that we all agree

6286
04:13:35,313 --> 04:13:38,216
we want to have come here

6287
04:13:38,216 --> 04:13:38,884
because of the economic

6288
04:13:38,884 --> 04:13:41,284
benefits. But they refused

6289
04:13:43,789 --> 04:13:46,189
because we protect their

6290
04:13:46,792 --> 04:13:48,693
business plans. Let's be real

6291
04:13:48,693 --> 04:13:49,995
careful. What we're trying to

6292
04:13:49,995 --> 04:13:53,595
do here as we could shoot

6293
04:13:57,235 --> 04:13:59,170
themselves both feet. By doing

6294
04:13:59,170 --> 04:13:59,871
this.

6295
04:13:59,871 --> 04:14:02,207
>> and I mean one things that

6296
04:14:02,207 --> 04:14:04,643
has come to my mind and this.

6297
04:14:04,643 --> 04:14:07,430
>> whole thrashing of the

6298
04:14:09,810 --> 04:14:11,481
whole data center thing.

6299
04:14:12,684 --> 04:14:13,384
Personally I believe there's

6300
04:14:13,384 --> 04:14:16,384
some and talking about heavy

6301
04:14:16,888 --> 04:14:19,288
industrial sector. Because I

6302
04:14:22,894 --> 04:14:23,528
think it's those. Time so

6303
04:14:23,528 --> 04:14:25,928
businesses that are most

6304
04:14:28,330 --> 04:14:28,800
likely to have a negative

6305
04:14:28,800 --> 04:14:31,800
impact on the environment all

6306
04:14:33,672 --> 04:14:34,238
all of those things. Maybe

6307
04:14:34,238 --> 04:14:37,238
those of the kinds of

6308
04:14:40,512 --> 04:14:43,512
projects. We don't want to

6309
04:14:44,116 --> 04:14:47,716
shield from the public. So I'm

6310
04:14:48,619 --> 04:14:49,621
just throwing that out as one

6311
04:14:49,621 --> 04:14:52,621
opportunity I I just don't

6312
04:14:52,624 --> 04:14:55,624
think I could support throwing

6313
04:14:55,894 --> 04:14:59,798
out and the a's in a blanket

6314
04:14:59,798 --> 04:15:00,665
way because it very well could

6315
04:15:00,665 --> 04:15:01,366
prevent it. The kinds of

6316
04:15:01,366 --> 04:15:04,135
companies we would all agree

6317
04:15:04,135 --> 04:15:06,938
we want to have come here

6318
04:15:06,938 --> 04:15:07,572
because we won't protect their

6319
04:15:07,572 --> 04:15:09,972
business plans. So let's

6320
04:15:10,242 --> 04:15:12,642
really think carefully about

6321
04:15:14,946 --> 04:15:18,546
how we might want to manage

6322
04:15:19,417 --> 04:15:21,586
and he is and I have couple of

6323
04:15:21,586 --> 04:15:22,653
basic blocking and tackling

6324
04:15:22,653 --> 04:15:23,454
questions around and the a's

6325
04:15:23,454 --> 04:15:24,220
and I say that MISTER Mayor

6326
04:15:24,220 --> 04:15:27,220
men has left which is

6327
04:15:29,794 --> 04:15:32,194
unfortunate. I'm just curious.

6328
04:15:33,231 --> 04:15:33,932
On average how many and the

6329
04:15:33,932 --> 04:15:37,532
a's does the city signed any

6330
04:15:41,206 --> 04:15:43,909
year. And similar to the data

6331
04:15:43,909 --> 04:15:44,876
center I I think we executed

6332
04:15:44,876 --> 04:15:47,378
that nda way in advance of

6333
04:15:47,378 --> 04:15:49,378
actually filing an

6334
04:15:49,748 --> 04:15:51,160
application. So my second

6335
04:15:51,160 --> 04:15:54,353
question is how often does the

6336
04:15:54,353 --> 04:15:55,120
nda and the application kind

6337
04:15:55,120 --> 04:15:58,120
of happened together at or

6338
04:15:59,124 --> 04:15:59,824
within a short period of time.

6339
04:15:59,824 --> 04:16:03,424
And how often does it really

6340
04:16:05,697 --> 04:16:06,331
separated. By length of time

6341
04:16:06,331 --> 04:16:09,931
we saw in the data center

6342
04:16:10,535 --> 04:16:11,703
example, and I see. Missed

6343
04:16:11,703 --> 04:16:12,337
larry is slowly and

6344
04:16:12,337 --> 04:16:14,737
reluctantly coming to the

6345
04:16:25,500 --> 04:16:25,751
podium.

6346
04:16:25,751 --> 04:16:28,151
>> good afternoon lori bonds

6347
04:16:29,287 --> 04:16:30,522
deputy director of development

6348
04:16:30,522 --> 04:16:31,590
services in the last 4 and a

6349
04:16:31,590 --> 04:16:34,590
half years the city has

6350
04:16:35,593 --> 04:16:36,294
entered into 3 different

6351
04:16:36,294 --> 04:16:38,294
nondisclosure agreements, I'm

6352
04:16:38,296 --> 04:16:41,896
one of those projects did not

6353
04:16:42,935 --> 04:16:45,103
progress to the point of a

6354
04:16:45,103 --> 04:16:47,503
formal application. One and

6355
04:16:48,240 --> 04:16:48,941
one is under the nda and we

6356
04:16:48,941 --> 04:16:51,443
don't have information as to

6357
04:16:51,443 --> 04:16:53,843
when they are applying.

6358
04:16:53,878 --> 04:16:56,278
>> generally projects MAY said

6359
04:16:59,840 --> 04:17:00,185
matt. A formal application

6360
04:17:00,185 --> 04:17:03,550
before the expiration of their

6361
04:17:03,550 --> 04:17:03,722
and in my experience by the

6362
04:17:03,722 --> 04:17:07,322
time they get to the formal

6363
04:17:08,761 --> 04:17:11,363
approval. Stage those and the

6364
04:17:11,363 --> 04:17:12,131
a's have generally expired

6365
04:17:12,131 --> 04:17:14,531
imagine trying to conduct

6366
04:17:15,233 --> 04:17:18,233
quasi judicial hearing. For a

6367
04:17:18,970 --> 04:17:19,938
project that is under a

6368
04:17:19,938 --> 04:17:20,773
nondisclosure agreement. So

6369
04:17:20,773 --> 04:17:24,373
usually by the time they are

6370
04:17:27,790 --> 04:17:27,746
ready to. Get to their final

6371
04:17:27,746 --> 04:17:30,146
approval stages. They have

6372
04:17:30,883 --> 04:17:34,483
tied up there and users and.

6373
04:17:35,954 --> 04:17:38,220
Finalize their plans so that

6374
04:17:38,220 --> 04:17:39,825
the need for the nda is no

6375
04:17:39,825 --> 04:17:41,960
longer a pressing right

6376
04:17:41,960 --> 04:17:44,360
because and progress things

6377
04:17:44,429 --> 04:17:45,130
are of locked and the

6378
04:17:45,130 --> 04:17:47,530
opportunity for a competitor

6379
04:17:49,267 --> 04:17:50,235
to come in.

6380
04:17:50,235 --> 04:17:50,936
>> and derail that project is

6381
04:17:50,936 --> 04:17:53,936
over correct okay, thank you

6382
04:17:56,909 --> 04:17:57,576
for that. I'm going to yield

6383
04:17:57,576 --> 04:17:59,211
at this point but I want to

6384
04:17:59,211 --> 04:18:01,211
come back.

6385
04:18:05,684 --> 04:18:06,318
>> stokes.

6386
04:18:06,318 --> 04:18:08,860
>> you know I started by

6387
04:18:08,860 --> 04:18:09,755
saying that you know nba's or

6388
04:18:09,755 --> 04:18:10,455
something that we see in the

6389
04:18:10,455 --> 04:18:11,156
private sector we see in the

6390
04:18:11,156 --> 04:18:14,756
public sector MAY seem to be

6391
04:18:16,161 --> 04:18:16,895
out there. But I do

6392
04:18:16,895 --> 04:18:17,495
fundamental concern and that's

6393
04:18:17,495 --> 04:18:19,131
that I think there's a

6394
04:18:19,131 --> 04:18:21,131
fundamental difference between

6395
04:18:24,136 --> 04:18:26,500
government and private sector.

6396
04:18:26,500 --> 04:18:27,406
Ok, and the difference I see

6397
04:18:27,406 --> 04:18:28,400
is we are elected by were

6398
04:18:28,400 --> 04:18:30,440
elected to represent the

6399
04:18:31,477 --> 04:18:32,911
citizens of this city and for

6400
04:18:32,911 --> 04:18:33,545
any elected body not to know

6401
04:18:33,545 --> 04:18:37,145
what's going on is a big

6402
04:18:38,717 --> 04:18:39,451
problem for me and for anybody

6403
04:18:39,451 --> 04:18:42,821
not to know what's going now I

6404
04:18:42,821 --> 04:18:44,523
appreciate he that are

6405
04:18:44,523 --> 04:18:45,224
reluctant to come do business

6406
04:18:45,224 --> 04:18:48,824
with the city unless they can

6407
04:18:49,194 --> 04:18:49,995
prepare protect their

6408
04:18:49,995 --> 04:18:50,662
proprietary rights but many

6409
04:18:50,662 --> 04:18:53,465
cases it might be they also

6410
04:18:53,465 --> 04:18:54,200
want to protect their idea. So

6411
04:18:54,200 --> 04:18:57,200
that someone else doesn't jump

6412
04:18:59,338 --> 04:19:00,338
in to compete with them. But

6413
04:19:00,338 --> 04:19:01,607
that said I think healthy

6414
04:19:01,607 --> 04:19:02,508
competition is good especially

6415
04:19:02,508 --> 04:19:03,976
when talking about the

6416
04:19:03,976 --> 04:19:04,677
citizens tax dollars that

6417
04:19:04,677 --> 04:19:07,677
we're prepared to maybe spend

6418
04:19:08,814 --> 04:19:10,415
ward contributed to a product.

6419
04:19:10,415 --> 04:19:11,830
So why intend to make a motion

6420
04:19:11,830 --> 04:19:15,283
to do away with and the a's

6421
04:19:15,387 --> 04:19:16,880
and the say and see where sits

6422
04:19:16,880 --> 04:19:19,688
on that because I just don't

6423
04:19:21,193 --> 04:19:23,280
see need for and I think that

6424
04:19:23,280 --> 04:19:24,196
day they contrary to the

6425
04:19:24,196 --> 04:19:24,897
concept of transparency and

6426
04:19:24,897 --> 04:19:27,733
inclusiveness I think we have

6427
04:19:27,733 --> 04:19:28,366
a problem with city and I

6428
04:19:28,366 --> 04:19:31,366
think it's time to start

6429
04:19:32,904 --> 04:19:34,874
fixing some of stuff and this

6430
04:19:34,874 --> 04:19:37,109
is something that if we lose

6431
04:19:37,109 --> 04:19:39,678
the deal here there will also

6432
04:19:39,678 --> 04:19:40,346
be in to be if there's a

6433
04:19:40,346 --> 04:19:41,460
business doesn't want come

6434
04:19:41,460 --> 04:19:44,460
here because they're so zones

6435
04:19:44,783 --> 04:19:46,151
going to compete with to and

6436
04:19:46,151 --> 04:19:48,420
yet they have a primary

6437
04:19:48,420 --> 04:19:50,820
information that they submit

6438
04:19:51,423 --> 04:19:54,423
that's protected in my opinion

6439
04:19:55,761 --> 04:19:58,364
under the state law for public

6440
04:19:58,364 --> 04:19:59,650
records. So they're kind

6441
04:19:59,650 --> 04:20:00,299
project in there, but cost of

6442
04:20:00,299 --> 04:20:03,969
the idea for us not to be able

6443
04:20:03,969 --> 04:20:05,137
to share the and for everyone

6444
04:20:05,137 --> 04:20:07,173
know what just runs contrary

6445
04:20:07,173 --> 04:20:08,274
to the concept of good

6446
04:20:08,274 --> 04:20:10,274
governance and transparent

6447
04:20:11,143 --> 04:20:12,110
governance I mean the sunshine

6448
04:20:12,110 --> 04:20:16,211
laws were passed so that we do

6449
04:20:16,615 --> 04:20:18,250
business behind closed doors.

6450
04:20:18,250 --> 04:20:21,850
And yet because and the a's

6451
04:20:23,656 --> 04:20:24,390
and administrative approvals.

6452
04:20:24,390 --> 04:20:25,758
There's been around here where

6453
04:20:25,758 --> 04:20:29,958
now this stuff can get it done

6454
04:20:32,164 --> 04:20:34,299
behind not only the you know

6455
04:20:34,299 --> 04:20:35,000
that commission's back I just

6456
04:20:35,000 --> 04:20:38,404
think that's a problem and I

6457
04:20:38,404 --> 04:20:40,505
don't use and budget purposely

6458
04:20:40,505 --> 04:20:42,374
doing anything nefarious I

6459
04:20:42,374 --> 04:20:45,444
just think that this is the

6460
04:20:45,444 --> 04:20:46,212
manipulation of legislation

6461
04:20:46,212 --> 04:20:46,946
that's taking place over time

6462
04:20:46,946 --> 04:20:51,146
and we have the ability to fix

6463
04:20:53,185 --> 04:20:53,852
so I say we fix it to where

6464
04:20:53,852 --> 04:20:56,852
nba's and fix the approval

6465
04:20:56,989 --> 04:20:57,322
process thank you commissioner

6466
04:20:57,322 --> 04:20:59,322
petro.

6467
04:21:04,363 --> 04:21:07,363
>> almost and want to could 7

6468
04:21:08,434 --> 04:21:09,234
that I'm not going repeat

6469
04:21:09,234 --> 04:21:12,834
that. But one state kind going

6470
04:21:15,174 --> 04:21:17,574
specifics. Trade secrets think

6471
04:21:18,777 --> 04:21:20,790
that I remember one of the

6472
04:21:20,790 --> 04:21:23,790
economic could open to updates

6473
04:21:27,119 --> 04:21:27,819
we had director said that. You

6474
04:21:27,819 --> 04:21:30,819
know there's still coming to

6475
04:21:32,191 --> 04:21:32,925
this section of our city and

6476
04:21:32,925 --> 04:21:33,626
she said the box store and we

6477
04:21:33,626 --> 04:21:35,761
were like what is it what is

6478
04:21:35,761 --> 04:21:39,731
the thing she said well I can

6479
04:21:39,731 --> 04:21:40,833
say it's a trace it could

6480
04:21:40,833 --> 04:21:41,834
basically time you it's like

6481
04:21:41,834 --> 04:21:43,834
submitting the application

6482
04:21:45,638 --> 04:21:49,838
with the fast food and city or

6483
04:21:50,309 --> 04:21:51,376
whatever. Chain or restaurant.

6484
04:21:51,376 --> 04:21:54,976
Box store. Did I have to

6485
04:21:58,951 --> 04:21:59,519
provide specifics. To that. So

6486
04:21:59,519 --> 04:22:01,253
basically same thing

6487
04:22:01,253 --> 04:22:03,653
commissioner stokes that lets

6488
04:22:05,390 --> 04:22:06,580
get away from them a lot of

6489
04:22:06,580 --> 04:22:08,561
people you know I and they

6490
04:22:08,561 --> 04:22:10,262
want to be protecting thinking

6491
04:22:10,262 --> 04:22:11,163
the plant under different a

6492
04:22:11,163 --> 04:22:13,563
little cnn, nobody always

6493
04:22:17,803 --> 04:22:20,273
cool. To hide it from the

6494
04:22:20,273 --> 04:22:20,906
commission that would be

6495
04:22:20,906 --> 04:22:23,306
prevented from making the

6496
04:22:24,377 --> 04:22:25,111
proper choices or well

6497
04:22:25,111 --> 04:22:27,880
informed decision that I don't

6498
04:22:27,880 --> 04:22:28,580
think it's correct. So. And

6499
04:22:28,580 --> 04:22:32,180
again if you do the business

6500
04:22:34,320 --> 04:22:36,720
with the government. This

6501
04:22:38,925 --> 04:22:40,760
courage to be transparent.

6502
04:22:40,760 --> 04:22:41,427
Because government and 2

6503
04:22:41,427 --> 04:22:44,427
different things and we as

6504
04:22:45,798 --> 04:22:47,798
public officials. Transparency

6505
04:22:48,968 --> 04:22:51,968
that's comes thank you man.

6506
04:22:52,472 --> 04:22:54,472
>> I mayor.

6507
04:22:56,675 --> 04:22:59,512
>> yeah just a couple law

6508
04:22:59,512 --> 04:23:00,179
comments. We all want

6509
04:23:00,179 --> 04:23:01,414
competition our economy is

6510
04:23:01,414 --> 04:23:05,614
built on it we want to have

6511
04:23:09,555 --> 04:23:11,757
choice with shop where to

6512
04:23:11,757 --> 04:23:13,659
we're not. But when a company

6513
04:23:13,659 --> 04:23:14,293
is investing significant

6514
04:23:14,293 --> 04:23:16,293
resources and engineering

6515
04:23:16,929 --> 04:23:18,929
planning building plans.

6516
04:23:24,303 --> 04:23:26,372
>> order to build here. I that

6517
04:23:26,372 --> 04:23:26,773
is a totally different

6518
04:23:26,773 --> 04:23:28,773
situation.

6519
04:23:31,343 --> 04:23:31,978
>> and 2.

6520
04:23:31,978 --> 04:23:33,978
>> protect their business

6521
04:23:36,549 --> 04:23:37,183
plans under an nda it part of

6522
04:23:37,183 --> 04:23:40,183
the reason in addition to

6523
04:23:41,520 --> 04:23:43,520
proprietary information. And

6524
04:23:46,692 --> 04:23:49,692
da's exist. It's to encourage

6525
04:23:50,763 --> 04:23:53,599
that kind development and to

6526
04:23:53,599 --> 04:23:55,599
prevent unfair competition.

6527
04:23:57,370 --> 04:23:58,437
That causes. A company to say

6528
04:23:58,437 --> 04:24:00,437
ok. I'm don

6529
04:24:05,811 --> 04:24:08,347
haha you block my plans all

6530
04:24:08,347 --> 04:24:09,515
creation and now a direct

6531
04:24:09,515 --> 04:24:10,149
competitor of my this

6532
04:24:10,149 --> 04:24:12,185
competing for that same

6533
04:24:12,185 --> 04:24:12,852
property are whatever the

6534
04:24:12,852 --> 04:24:16,452
objection I I kind of agree

6535
04:24:17,490 --> 04:24:18,191
to it.

6536
04:24:18,191 --> 04:24:20,591
>> now a conversation about

6537
04:24:22,628 --> 04:24:25,765
how we might want to modify

6538
04:24:25,765 --> 04:24:28,534
our nda if we decide as a body

6539
04:24:28,534 --> 04:24:29,469
we want to be read into and

6540
04:24:29,469 --> 04:24:33,669
the a's and be to them I'm

6541
04:24:35,574 --> 04:24:36,409
open to that conversation.

6542
04:24:36,409 --> 04:24:40,900
>> I'm sorry I I can support

6543
04:24:41,347 --> 04:24:42,314
throwing out and the a's.

6544
04:24:42,314 --> 04:24:45,914
>> as whole block, it's not in

6545
04:24:47,860 --> 04:24:48,620
the best interest of city. It

6546
04:24:48,620 --> 04:24:49,289
is not in the best interest of

6547
04:24:49,289 --> 04:24:51,689
our economic development is

6548
04:24:55,194 --> 04:24:57,630
not in the best interest. Here

6549
04:24:57,630 --> 04:24:58,665
and helping to soften the tax

6550
04:24:58,665 --> 04:25:01,665
burden on homeowners I cannot

6551
04:25:02,234 --> 04:25:04,234
it. I yield.

6552
04:25:05,371 --> 04:25:07,371
>> commissioner ball know

6553
04:25:14,130 --> 04:25:17,130
thank you the boulder. Coast

6554
04:25:21,870 --> 04:25:23,456
to the city. And we say to if

6555
04:25:23,456 --> 04:25:23,890
you had a prior period

6556
04:25:23,890 --> 04:25:25,890
information.

6557
04:25:25,958 --> 04:25:28,958
>> you do not want make

6558
04:25:30,830 --> 04:25:34,430
schools that do not all. If

6559
04:25:36,335 --> 04:25:39,935
you do not or questions. In

6560
04:25:42,708 --> 04:25:43,410
your application process.

6561
04:25:43,410 --> 04:25:45,578
Gives all safeguards. We need

6562
04:25:45,578 --> 04:25:49,178
for our community that we will

6563
04:26:00,526 --> 04:26:01,694
decline replication.

6564
04:26:01,694 --> 04:26:02,328
>> and brief and make it very

6565
04:26:02,328 --> 04:26:04,728
brief because removing on

6566
04:26:10,403 --> 04:26:12,803
emotions. Thank you mayor.

6567
04:26:16,609 --> 04:26:17,310
>> few minutes ago hearing

6568
04:26:17,310 --> 04:26:20,180
that for as long anybody can

6569
04:26:20,180 --> 04:26:22,180
remember there's been.

6570
04:26:23,649 --> 04:26:24,383
>> 3 and the a's and I would

6571
04:26:24,383 --> 04:26:26,952
say if we have the least known

6572
04:26:26,952 --> 04:26:29,952
about one of them. Our

6573
04:26:30,790 --> 04:26:31,958
situation today might be

6574
04:26:31,958 --> 04:26:32,591
slightly different. So I know

6575
04:26:32,591 --> 04:26:34,761
probably couldn't said it

6576
04:26:34,761 --> 04:26:37,761
better MISTER Duvall just said

6577
04:26:38,465 --> 04:26:39,980
and so you know I stand firmly

6578
04:26:39,980 --> 04:26:41,498
behind my position anyway

6579
04:26:46,238 --> 04:26:46,873
that's it essentially brought

6580
04:26:46,873 --> 04:26:47,540
city manager weaker and I

6581
04:26:47,540 --> 04:26:49,409
think larry was up here and

6582
04:26:49,409 --> 04:26:53,900
she currently we have to. Nda

6583
04:26:55,348 --> 04:26:56,883
is in place currently. And

6584
04:26:56,883 --> 04:27:00,483
that would it always up 30th

6585
04:27:00,586 --> 04:27:01,320
and we will not be exercising

6586
04:27:01,320 --> 04:27:02,255
the right to extend that based

6587
04:27:02,255 --> 04:27:02,989
on today's conversation and

6588
04:27:02,989 --> 04:27:05,989
will give you that information

6589
04:27:06,626 --> 04:27:08,528
as well.

6590
04:27:08,528 --> 04:27:10,162
>> okay because the reason I

6591
04:27:10,162 --> 04:27:12,562
ask is because commissioner

6592
04:27:13,733 --> 04:27:14,467
starts when we started this

6593
04:27:14,467 --> 04:27:16,867
said that. Commissioner petros

6594
04:27:17,503 --> 04:27:18,170
brother was involved in one.

6595
04:27:18,170 --> 04:27:21,170
The reason I'm asking about

6596
04:27:21,774 --> 04:27:22,341
that was that. What I was

6597
04:27:22,341 --> 04:27:24,741
reading about in your

6598
04:27:26,979 --> 04:27:29,379
valuation. That's going to

6599
04:27:33,853 --> 04:27:34,955
come out yes the 22nd because

6600
04:27:34,955 --> 04:27:35,622
there are some very serious

6601
04:27:35,622 --> 04:27:36,188
stuff and that and I think

6602
04:27:36,188 --> 04:27:39,188
we're going to have a

6603
04:27:39,726 --> 04:27:40,560
discussion on that on the

6604
04:27:40,560 --> 04:27:42,560
22nd.

6605
04:27:45,264 --> 04:27:48,264
>> yes, there project you know

6606
04:27:50,203 --> 04:27:52,500
based on what you hear today.

6607
04:27:52,500 --> 04:27:52,705
>> more going to be inability

6608
04:27:52,705 --> 04:27:55,141
to respect what they are what

6609
04:27:55,141 --> 04:27:55,842
they do so those things I

6610
04:27:55,842 --> 04:27:58,277
don't think today is the time

6611
04:27:58,277 --> 04:28:02,477
to discuss that part of it so.

6612
04:28:05,452 --> 04:28:06,520
>> open it up for a motions.

6613
04:28:06,520 --> 04:28:09,520
>> from a family sent a

6614
04:28:10,990 --> 04:28:13,990
followed by sam samuel place

6615
04:28:17,497 --> 04:28:19,897
of rest him ours.

6616
04:28:21,501 --> 04:28:22,168
>> take discussion across the

6617
04:28:22,168 --> 04:28:24,404
>> city attorney thank you

6618
04:28:24,404 --> 04:28:25,104
because you have a lot of this

6619
04:28:25,104 --> 04:28:28,104
stuff. Lot of questions asked

6620
04:28:29,175 --> 04:28:29,809
you I was going stay as well

6621
04:28:29,809 --> 04:28:31,711
so get rid of half of my

6622
04:28:31,711 --> 04:28:32,312
comment which is great. You

6623
04:28:32,312 --> 04:28:35,312
know you guys have that

6624
04:28:36,149 --> 04:28:36,883
discretion. Whether you want

6625
04:28:36,883 --> 04:28:41,187
to do an nda or you don't want

6626
04:28:41,187 --> 04:28:42,288
to do an nda.

6627
04:28:42,288 --> 04:28:43,220
>> you have the discretion to

6628
04:28:43,220 --> 04:28:44,223
just make an ordinance that is

6629
04:28:44,223 --> 04:28:44,590
within the commission's

6630
04:28:44,590 --> 04:28:46,590
purview.

6631
04:28:46,593 --> 04:28:48,595
>> to make that decision you

6632
04:28:48,595 --> 04:28:49,329
can take it away

6633
04:28:49,329 --> 04:28:52,329
administratively and put it in

6634
04:28:53,166 --> 04:28:55,101
your pool of curfew. And the

6635
04:28:55,101 --> 04:28:56,936
a's are all over the place so

6636
04:28:56,936 --> 04:28:58,204
yeah, maybe sometimes an nda

6637
04:28:58,204 --> 04:28:58,938
is ok depending upon what type

6638
04:28:58,938 --> 04:29:01,408
of nda and what they're asking

6639
04:29:01,408 --> 04:29:05,608
for. And that again is in with

6640
04:29:05,979 --> 04:29:06,613
discretion. You know the only

6641
04:29:06,613 --> 04:29:10,213
way to handle it that I'm

6642
04:29:11,284 --> 04:29:12,180
saying. Take it away

6643
04:29:12,180 --> 04:29:14,530
administratively and put it in

6644
04:29:14,530 --> 04:29:14,754
the purview of the commission

6645
04:29:14,754 --> 04:29:17,790
and it has to come before you

6646
04:29:17,790 --> 04:29:18,525
whether you want to do. You

6647
04:29:18,525 --> 04:29:22,125
know do want to with this

6648
04:29:22,695 --> 04:29:23,396
particular business you don't.

6649
04:29:23,396 --> 04:29:23,996
So one of choices taken away

6650
04:29:23,996 --> 04:29:26,366
permanently or use your

6651
04:29:26,366 --> 04:29:28,366
discretion. That's your

6652
04:29:41,114 --> 04:29:43,114
purview. Thank you

6653
04:29:43,216 --> 04:29:44,784
>> under transparency laws

6654
04:29:44,784 --> 04:29:45,485
like chapter 1, 1, 9 public

6655
04:29:45,485 --> 04:29:48,485
records act and sunshine the

6656
04:29:49,889 --> 04:29:52,192
rule is absolute city manager

6657
04:29:52,192 --> 04:29:52,859
or staff member can signed a

6658
04:29:52,859 --> 04:29:55,259
private contract that ever

6659
04:29:58,640 --> 04:30:01,640
stay realities of passes all

6660
04:30:02,903 --> 04:30:04,204
city manager and city staff

6661
04:30:04,204 --> 04:30:06,204
includes private developer

6662
04:30:07,808 --> 04:30:08,542
utility provider center

6663
04:30:08,542 --> 04:30:09,242
corporation as a city manager

6664
04:30:09,242 --> 04:30:11,242
economic development director

6665
04:30:13,213 --> 04:30:13,846
sign an nda before presenting

6666
04:30:13,846 --> 04:30:15,849
a project that agreement

6667
04:30:15,849 --> 04:30:18,249
cannot bypass public. Records

6668
04:30:22,589 --> 04:30:23,690
request. The custodian of

6669
04:30:23,690 --> 04:30:26,559
records the city manager and

6670
04:30:26,559 --> 04:30:28,600
staff custodians of the

6671
04:30:28,600 --> 04:30:29,696
public's information and

6672
04:30:29,696 --> 04:30:31,831
tractor one 19 any document

6673
04:30:31,831 --> 04:30:34,231
text message or email

6674
04:30:35,802 --> 04:30:36,703
generated by city manager or

6675
04:30:36,703 --> 04:30:37,403
staff any business

6676
04:30:37,403 --> 04:30:39,403
automatically becomes public

6677
04:30:43,109 --> 04:30:43,810
record. Commissioner end of

6678
04:30:43,810 --> 04:30:47,410
the year should you spoke to

6679
04:30:51,684 --> 04:30:52,686
us to time keep look at

6680
04:30:52,686 --> 04:30:53,387
because you are and then the

6681
04:30:53,387 --> 04:30:56,987
second that is that would be

6682
04:30:59,726 --> 04:31:01,726
close afternoon.

6683
04:31:04,330 --> 04:31:04,898
>> your tell you.

6684
04:31:04,898 --> 04:31:05,632
>> that MISTER Starts

6685
04:31:05,632 --> 04:31:08,632
commissioner stops for good me

6686
04:31:10,904 --> 04:31:11,605
correct sir. MISTER Duvall

6687
04:31:11,605 --> 04:31:13,605
commissioner default forgive

6688
04:31:13,906 --> 04:31:16,843
me, I'm sorry you're correct

6689
04:31:16,843 --> 04:31:20,443
as well know, you to have

6690
04:31:20,614 --> 04:31:21,915
child you right here that the

6691
04:31:21,915 --> 04:31:24,817
city manager years as a order

6692
04:31:24,817 --> 04:31:27,654
to keep that information from

6693
04:31:27,654 --> 04:31:28,355
the diocese are really that

6694
04:31:28,355 --> 04:31:29,890
stupid that we just have the

6695
04:31:29,890 --> 04:31:31,489
stand that we elected

6696
04:31:37,297 --> 04:31:39,697
officials todd. So they're

6697
04:31:41,601 --> 04:31:45,201
trying to sit there and show.

6698
04:31:51,878 --> 04:31:55,478
The top sent not that MAY

6699
04:31:56,450 --> 04:31:58,850
cause your very disrespectful

6700
04:32:06,393 --> 04:32:09,993
mentioned you has this is not

6701
04:32:13,660 --> 04:32:16,660
private enterprise we knew it.

6702
04:32:16,736 --> 04:32:19,136
Responsibility is center not

6703
04:32:20,173 --> 04:32:22,242
it does nets. Led it that's

6704
04:32:22,242 --> 04:32:25,842
just a fact that's what law

6705
04:32:29,549 --> 04:32:30,216
is. If you want to the in the

6706
04:32:30,216 --> 04:32:32,486
beginning everybody what be

6707
04:32:32,486 --> 04:32:32,853
here listening to an hour of

6708
04:32:32,853 --> 04:32:33,587
trade at.

6709
04:32:33,587 --> 04:32:34,254
>> when you can literally look

6710
04:32:34,254 --> 04:32:35,622
it up and find out what the

6711
04:32:35,622 --> 04:32:39,822
law is I yield my time. Thank

6712
04:32:45,231 --> 04:32:46,800
you.

6713
04:32:46,800 --> 04:32:47,567
>> well I don't believe and

6714
04:32:47,567 --> 04:32:50,567
the a's are extremely bad

6715
04:32:51,772 --> 04:32:52,439
business they. Make people

6716
04:32:52,439 --> 04:32:54,839
feel that there's something

6717
04:32:55,442 --> 04:32:56,109
bad about it that you're

6718
04:32:56,109 --> 04:32:57,977
hiding something it is just

6719
04:32:57,977 --> 04:33:00,377
poor business practice. And

6720
04:33:03,118 --> 04:33:03,750
instead I really do believe

6721
04:33:03,750 --> 04:33:04,417
that all applications we

6722
04:33:04,417 --> 04:33:05,151
should have the ability to

6723
04:33:05,151 --> 04:33:08,151
review the application to make

6724
04:33:08,389 --> 04:33:11,240
sure it's it's compliant. It's

6725
04:33:11,240 --> 04:33:11,692
a far company our community

6726
04:33:11,692 --> 04:33:13,459
that something we want with

6727
04:33:13,459 --> 04:33:14,128
our community I think there's

6728
04:33:14,128 --> 04:33:15,963
anything technology wise or

6729
04:33:15,963 --> 04:33:16,630
otherwise that is anything

6730
04:33:16,630 --> 04:33:19,300
surprising nowadays. But I

6731
04:33:19,266 --> 04:33:21,201
would like to recommend that

6732
04:33:21,201 --> 04:33:23,804
instead that will you reject

6733
04:33:23,804 --> 04:33:24,538
the ability to use in da's

6734
04:33:24,538 --> 04:33:27,538
that you allow applicant under

6735
04:33:29,209 --> 04:33:29,810
florida statute, one 19 the

6736
04:33:29,810 --> 04:33:32,112
ability to request the

6737
04:33:32,112 --> 04:33:32,813
redaction of their name their

6738
04:33:32,813 --> 04:33:35,213
address and other information

6739
04:33:35,382 --> 04:33:36,490
so just give them an ability

6740
04:33:36,490 --> 04:33:36,716
if they want to propose an

6741
04:33:36,716 --> 04:33:38,652
application just given the

6742
04:33:38,652 --> 04:33:39,319
ability redact information

6743
04:33:39,319 --> 04:33:41,719
names are banking anything

6744
04:33:43,724 --> 04:33:44,792
under section one 19. This way

6745
04:33:44,792 --> 04:33:45,792
and allows the community to

6746
04:33:45,792 --> 04:33:46,426
still know about the project

6747
04:33:46,426 --> 04:33:48,610
investigate we've lost a

6748
04:33:48,610 --> 04:33:50,461
year's worth the time.

6749
04:33:50,630 --> 04:33:52,630
Developing. Environmental

6750
04:33:53,667 --> 04:33:56,667
controls to protect us and

6751
04:33:57,737 --> 04:33:58,823
this whole nda thing. Has

6752
04:33:58,823 --> 04:34:00,674
really tainted this commission

6753
04:34:00,674 --> 04:34:01,541
that really has for the

6754
04:34:01,541 --> 04:34:02,709
community, it's very very sad.

6755
04:34:02,709 --> 04:34:03,376
So it's poor business practice

6756
04:34:03,376 --> 04:34:04,770
and I think it needs to be

6757
04:34:04,770 --> 04:34:06,477
abolished and eliminate that

6758
04:34:15,522 --> 04:34:16,156
thank you I thank you.

6759
04:34:16,156 --> 04:34:18,759
>> panto cars in the core

6760
04:34:18,759 --> 04:34:19,426
someone offer the workaround

6761
04:34:19,426 --> 04:34:22,426
this is procedure it's not

6762
04:34:24,164 --> 04:34:24,865
with the ordinance what if the

6763
04:34:24,865 --> 04:34:27,865
city manager just had during

6764
04:34:28,935 --> 04:34:29,636
his one-on-one conversations

6765
04:34:29,636 --> 04:34:33,730
with you hey I think it might

6766
04:34:33,730 --> 04:34:33,707
be a good idea if the

6767
04:34:33,707 --> 04:34:34,375
commissioner decides the

6768
04:34:34,375 --> 04:34:36,210
commission decides to maybe

6769
04:34:36,210 --> 04:34:37,978
discuss data centers because

6770
04:34:37,978 --> 04:34:38,712
at the time back in FEBRUARY

6771
04:34:38,712 --> 04:34:40,914
or MARCH it was starting to be

6772
04:34:40,914 --> 04:34:43,917
a hot topic with the arcadia

6773
04:34:43,917 --> 04:34:44,618
this way the city manager

6774
04:34:44,618 --> 04:34:48,218
does not violate his nba that

6775
04:34:49,823 --> 04:34:50,491
he had signed you guys don't

6776
04:34:50,491 --> 04:34:51,158
anything is coming but you

6777
04:34:51,158 --> 04:34:53,460
could have the conversation

6778
04:34:53,460 --> 04:34:54,428
because it was already out in

6779
04:34:54,428 --> 04:34:55,128
the public regarding data

6780
04:34:55,128 --> 04:34:58,128
centers and what they wanted

6781
04:34:58,498 --> 04:34:59,232
to do if they came to port. I

6782
04:34:59,232 --> 04:35:02,232
will give also another example

6783
04:35:03,236 --> 04:35:04,605
about why and the a's are gut.

6784
04:35:04,605 --> 04:35:05,305
City managers also stated, I'm

6785
04:35:05,305 --> 04:35:08,305
sorry to pick MISTER Fletcher

6786
04:35:09,109 --> 04:35:09,776
but this is a good one that he

6787
04:35:09,776 --> 04:35:12,776
would like to see something

6788
04:35:14,748 --> 04:35:15,982
like maybe of a minor league.

6789
04:35:15,982 --> 04:35:17,651
Hockey team come that topic on

6790
04:35:17,651 --> 04:35:20,651
the philadelphia flyers is a

6791
04:35:20,654 --> 04:35:21,254
big flyers so what there was

6792
04:35:21,254 --> 04:35:24,254
no nda and everyone got

6793
04:35:24,858 --> 04:35:25,559
excited because hey guess what

6794
04:35:25,559 --> 04:35:26,259
flyers are coming there teams

6795
04:35:26,259 --> 04:35:29,259
coming and what not something

6796
04:35:29,663 --> 04:35:32,699
felt the road. Then now we

6797
04:35:32,699 --> 04:35:33,901
have a whole bunch of upset

6798
04:35:33,901 --> 04:35:34,568
residents because there was

6799
04:35:34,568 --> 04:35:35,235
something that fell through

6800
04:35:35,235 --> 04:35:37,671
when they knew what it was

6801
04:35:37,671 --> 04:35:38,339
let's just off key example,

6802
04:35:38,339 --> 04:35:41,339
but it's also something is

6803
04:35:41,842 --> 04:35:44,842
what would happen. And then

6804
04:35:46,247 --> 04:35:48,647
debbie mcdowell he's submitted

6805
04:35:48,949 --> 04:35:49,984
a comment she wanted this let

6806
04:35:49,984 --> 04:35:52,180
the commission know that the

6807
04:35:52,180 --> 04:35:54,988
commission can direct the city

6808
04:35:54,988 --> 04:35:55,689
attorney to reach out to the

6809
04:35:55,689 --> 04:35:57,123
attorney general for specific

6810
04:35:57,123 --> 04:35:59,920
ruling on this matter

6811
04:35:59,920 --> 04:35:59,826
regarding the commission being

6812
04:35:59,826 --> 04:36:03,263
down by an nda and how the nba

6813
04:36:03,263 --> 04:36:04,364
applies to the commission.

6814
04:36:04,364 --> 04:36:06,266
>> the attorney general will

6815
04:36:06,266 --> 04:36:06,967
answer if the board gives

6816
04:36:06,967 --> 04:36:07,968
direction and I apologize if

6817
04:36:07,968 --> 04:36:08,636
that's something that

6818
04:36:08,636 --> 04:36:09,370
commissioner emrich should

6819
04:36:09,370 --> 04:36:09,936
also because I don't know when

6820
04:36:09,936 --> 04:36:10,637
this came during the

6821
04:36:10,637 --> 04:36:12,906
conversation because it thank

6822
04:36:12,906 --> 04:36:14,906
you.

6823
04:36:19,813 --> 04:36:21,782
>> and for or to use

6824
04:36:21,782 --> 04:36:22,883
nondisclosure agreements in a

6825
04:36:22,883 --> 04:36:23,450
way transparency the best

6826
04:36:23,450 --> 04:36:24,184
PRESIDENT And elected

6827
04:36:24,184 --> 04:36:24,851
officials from knowing what is

6828
04:36:24,851 --> 04:36:25,519
being discussed on matters

6829
04:36:25,519 --> 04:36:27,919
affecting our community. I

6830
04:36:29,123 --> 04:36:32,123
would support just them and

6831
04:36:33,193 --> 04:36:33,827
forced the language to

6832
04:36:33,827 --> 04:36:34,561
accomplish mess that's I

6833
04:36:34,561 --> 04:36:35,262
understand the florida certain

6834
04:36:35,262 --> 04:36:35,930
confidential information how

6835
04:36:35,930 --> 04:36:36,597
nda should never be used to

6836
04:36:36,597 --> 04:36:38,597
circumvent florida's public

6837
04:36:38,800 --> 04:36:39,400
records and open government

6838
04:36:39,400 --> 04:36:40,134
requirements for ticket

6839
04:36:40,134 --> 04:36:42,534
information from the public

6840
04:36:42,970 --> 04:36:44,104
simply because a private party

6841
04:36:44,104 --> 04:36:46,504
confident reality. The reason

6842
04:36:46,774 --> 04:36:49,110
situation demonstrates why is

6843
04:36:49,110 --> 04:36:49,777
important. Residents struggle

6844
04:36:49,777 --> 04:36:50,444
to obtain information about

6845
04:36:50,444 --> 04:36:52,444
major potential development

6846
04:36:53,147 --> 04:36:55,349
while was in place. That's

6847
04:36:55,349 --> 04:36:56,784
concern that's concern every

6848
04:36:56,784 --> 04:36:57,518
taxpayer projects that could

6849
04:36:57,518 --> 04:36:58,118
affect our water supply to see

6850
04:36:58,118 --> 04:37:00,118
them and infrastructure

6851
04:37:00,120 --> 04:37:00,721
environment neighborhoods

6852
04:37:00,721 --> 04:37:02,721
traffic happening taxes

6853
04:37:04,570 --> 04:37:04,692
deserve transparency from the

6854
04:37:04,692 --> 04:37:05,959
beginning. I estimate the

6855
04:37:05,959 --> 04:37:06,626
commission not to create a

6856
04:37:06,626 --> 04:37:09,260
process that normalizes are

6857
04:37:09,830 --> 04:37:11,970
encouraged and the a's for

6858
04:37:11,970 --> 04:37:12,232
city business. At a minimum,

6859
04:37:12,232 --> 04:37:13,767
no restricting information

6860
04:37:13,767 --> 04:37:15,169
that is legally required to be

6861
04:37:15,169 --> 04:37:16,360
public prevent commissioners

6862
04:37:16,360 --> 04:37:16,703
from receiving information

6863
04:37:16,703 --> 04:37:17,338
necessary to perform their

6864
04:37:17,338 --> 04:37:19,738
duties or prevent timely

6865
04:37:20,273 --> 04:37:21,108
disclosure to residents.

6866
04:37:21,108 --> 04:37:21,909
Government works for the

6867
04:37:21,909 --> 04:37:24,309
public not private developers

6868
04:37:25,479 --> 04:37:26,480
consultants and other party

6869
04:37:26,480 --> 04:37:27,181
seeking confidentiality.

6870
04:37:27,181 --> 04:37:29,984
Residents are ability and the

6871
04:37:29,984 --> 04:37:32,384
ability jail. Participate in

6872
04:37:33,721 --> 04:37:34,522
decisions based on incomplete

6873
04:37:34,522 --> 04:37:35,256
information. Please vote no to

6874
04:37:35,256 --> 04:37:35,956
allowing andy is to be used to

6875
04:37:35,956 --> 04:37:38,356
limit public transparency or

6876
04:37:40,293 --> 04:37:41,761
accountability. So the other

6877
04:37:41,761 --> 04:37:42,463
commissioner should be made

6878
04:37:42,463 --> 04:37:43,197
aware all unable to decide

6879
04:37:43,197 --> 04:37:45,597
whether the information should

6880
04:37:46,100 --> 04:37:46,800
be kept secret or disclosed.

6881
04:37:46,800 --> 04:37:49,800
Officials of the city should

6882
04:37:50,971 --> 04:37:53,107
make these determinations. Not

6883
04:37:53,107 --> 04:37:53,807
a and should be banned

6884
04:37:53,807 --> 04:37:54,541
outright this is dealings in

6885
04:37:54,541 --> 04:37:58,512
the dark and has no place in

6886
04:37:58,512 --> 04:38:00,512
legitimate representative city

6887
04:38:00,815 --> 04:38:01,549
governments 7 men get that's

6888
04:38:01,549 --> 04:38:03,350
you haven't got here and how

6889
04:38:03,350 --> 04:38:04,251
nba was born in a nutshell

6890
04:38:04,251 --> 04:38:04,852
florida statute 1, 6, 6.0 2

6891
04:38:04,852 --> 04:38:06,320
want to clarify public

6892
04:38:06,320 --> 04:38:09,320
interest to earth in our

6893
04:38:13,293 --> 04:38:14,262
state, a and state. I a statue

6894
04:38:14,262 --> 04:38:15,128
2 88.0 7, 5, gives permission

6895
04:38:15,128 --> 04:38:15,730
for confidentiality for

6896
04:38:15,730 --> 04:38:17,730
proprietary information

6897
04:38:17,831 --> 04:38:20,831
related to growth to a

6898
04:38:21,969 --> 04:38:22,703
business in 2021 the

6899
04:38:22,703 --> 04:38:23,437
commission approved on consent

6900
04:38:23,437 --> 04:38:26,540
the use of a template for city

6901
04:38:26,540 --> 04:38:28,776
manager to sign the agreement

6902
04:38:28,776 --> 04:38:29,743
city charter section 9.0 out

6903
04:38:29,743 --> 04:38:30,377
of the city manager the

6904
04:38:30,377 --> 04:38:32,746
authority to sign off on

6905
04:38:32,746 --> 04:38:34,648
tracks agreements and

6906
04:38:34,648 --> 04:38:35,916
applications for the city

6907
04:38:35,916 --> 04:38:37,485
actors such has been approved

6908
04:38:37,485 --> 04:38:38,850
by the city commission at a

6909
04:38:38,850 --> 04:38:38,785
regular or special city

6910
04:38:38,785 --> 04:38:40,785
commission meeting hindsight

6911
04:38:41,522 --> 04:38:43,757
is an amazing teacher I have

6912
04:38:43,757 --> 04:38:44,625
to wonder does that like that

6913
04:38:44,625 --> 04:38:47,250
charters something to ponder

6914
04:38:47,461 --> 04:38:48,662
and easy fix to the nba versus

6915
04:38:48,662 --> 04:38:50,531
charter issue is to remove the

6916
04:38:50,531 --> 04:38:51,131
city manager's ability to sign

6917
04:38:51,131 --> 04:38:53,400
future and the this way

6918
04:38:53,400 --> 04:38:54,635
there's no doubt it the

6919
04:38:54,635 --> 04:38:56,336
charter, however, the next

6920
04:38:56,336 --> 04:38:57,672
thing to ponder what's the

6921
04:38:57,672 --> 04:38:58,506
point of an idea the

6922
04:38:58,506 --> 04:39:00,308
commission is required to make

6923
04:39:00,308 --> 04:39:01,675
decisions and a public meeting

6924
04:39:01,675 --> 04:39:03,744
I'm not too sure commission

6925
04:39:03,744 --> 04:39:04,412
will approve an agreement with

6926
04:39:04,412 --> 04:39:05,112
actions but it still allows

6927
04:39:05,112 --> 04:39:08,112
the business that ability to

6928
04:39:09,416 --> 04:39:10,584
have an nti if the commission

6929
04:39:10,584 --> 04:39:11,318
approved at this deserves

6930
04:39:11,318 --> 04:39:12,653
further discussion and input

6931
04:39:12,653 --> 04:39:13,855
from the city attorney

6932
04:39:13,855 --> 04:39:14,455
tonight, the commission MAY

6933
04:39:14,455 --> 04:39:16,190
want to direct the city

6934
04:39:16,190 --> 04:39:16,890
attorney to conduct a legal of

6935
04:39:16,890 --> 04:39:17,592
whether the city manager made

6936
04:39:17,592 --> 04:39:21,610
her feature and the a's on of

6937
04:39:21,610 --> 04:39:21,662
the city's charter once legal

6938
04:39:21,662 --> 04:39:24,310
review is complete the

6939
04:39:24,310 --> 04:39:26,200
commission should discuss the

6940
04:39:26,200 --> 04:39:27,101
findings following the chart

6941
04:39:27,101 --> 04:39:27,668
takes priority transparency is

6942
04:39:27,668 --> 04:39:28,836
paramount along with

6943
04:39:28,836 --> 04:39:30,836
commission and citizen

6944
04:39:33,508 --> 04:39:34,508
involvement. That women have

6945
04:39:34,508 --> 04:39:36,644
commissioners of the cm does

6946
04:39:36,644 --> 04:39:37,344
not have to notify them we the

6947
04:39:37,344 --> 04:39:37,979
people the residents of north

6948
04:39:37,979 --> 04:39:38,679
port we are a city of the

6949
04:39:38,679 --> 04:39:41,790
commissioners are elected by

6950
04:39:41,448 --> 04:39:42,616
asked to represent us how

6951
04:39:42,616 --> 04:39:44,251
could any commissioner for

6952
04:39:44,251 --> 04:39:45,185
this is the very definition of

6953
04:39:45,185 --> 04:39:46,921
taxation without

6954
04:39:46,921 --> 04:39:47,621
representation, not acceptable

6955
04:39:47,621 --> 04:39:48,322
just like the data centers if

6956
04:39:48,322 --> 04:39:50,722
allowed to destroy everything

6957
04:39:50,958 --> 04:39:53,661
that israel florida. We don't

6958
04:39:53,661 --> 04:39:54,295
want our city painter and talk

6959
04:39:54,295 --> 04:39:54,928
our health is at risk our

6960
04:39:54,928 --> 04:39:57,328
water supply, energy grid

6961
04:40:00,134 --> 04:40:01,301
clean air achieve anything.

6962
04:40:01,301 --> 04:40:02,536
Craig mission I want to raise

6963
04:40:02,536 --> 04:40:03,504
concerns regarding city staff

6964
04:40:03,504 --> 04:40:04,138
entering into non-disclosure

6965
04:40:04,138 --> 04:40:06,138
agreements without prior

6966
04:40:06,273 --> 04:40:07,308
knowledge or consent of the

6967
04:40:07,308 --> 04:40:10,178
city commission. My concern is

6968
04:40:10,178 --> 04:40:12,413
not whether an nda

6969
04:40:12,413 --> 04:40:14,413
occasionally survey legend

6970
04:40:14,448 --> 04:40:15,115
legitimate city my concern to

6971
04:40:15,115 --> 04:40:15,650
have the right to make that

6972
04:40:15,650 --> 04:40:16,384
decision under what

6973
04:40:16,384 --> 04:40:18,784
circumstances and whether that

6974
04:40:19,219 --> 04:40:19,854
kind of illinois cities are

6975
04:40:19,854 --> 04:40:21,255
interested conducting the

6976
04:40:21,255 --> 04:40:23,290
day-to-day business of the

6977
04:40:23,290 --> 04:40:24,158
city but there's a significant

6978
04:40:24,158 --> 04:40:25,590
difference chamber routine

6979
04:40:25,590 --> 04:40:25,726
administrative work and

6980
04:40:25,726 --> 04:40:26,360
entering into an agreement

6981
04:40:26,360 --> 04:40:27,940
that might restrict what

6982
04:40:27,940 --> 04:40:29,496
information can be shared with

6983
04:40:29,496 --> 04:40:30,231
the public or even with their

6984
04:40:30,231 --> 04:40:30,965
elected representatives. The

6985
04:40:30,965 --> 04:40:31,599
city commission is accountable

6986
04:40:31,599 --> 04:40:34,599
to the voters on election

6987
04:40:36,237 --> 04:40:37,371
staff should not have on track

6988
04:40:37,371 --> 04:40:38,380
enter into confidentiality

6989
04:40:38,380 --> 04:40:38,706
agreements on behalf of the

6990
04:40:38,706 --> 04:40:39,340
city without their policies

6991
04:40:39,340 --> 04:40:41,340
limitations and oversight

6992
04:40:41,709 --> 04:40:42,710
established by the commission

6993
04:40:42,710 --> 04:40:43,945
at a minimum I believe

6994
04:40:43,945 --> 04:40:46,345
commission establish a formal

6995
04:40:46,747 --> 04:40:47,414
policy requiring want clearly

6996
04:40:47,414 --> 04:40:48,182
defined circumstances under

6997
04:40:48,182 --> 04:40:51,782
which makes to nba on behalf

6998
04:40:51,986 --> 04:40:53,921
of the city to review and

6999
04:40:53,921 --> 04:40:54,521
approval by city attorney for

7000
04:40:54,521 --> 04:40:55,156
execution 3 proper

7001
04:40:55,156 --> 04:40:57,556
notification of the city

7002
04:40:58,459 --> 04:40:59,590
commission whenever an nda is

7003
04:40:59,590 --> 04:41:00,594
executed, including its

7004
04:41:00,594 --> 04:41:01,729
general and the parties

7005
04:41:01,729 --> 04:41:04,129
involved to fullest extent

7006
04:41:05,433 --> 04:41:06,340
like legally permissible for

7007
04:41:06,340 --> 04:41:06,667
commission approval for

7008
04:41:06,667 --> 04:41:07,335
executing nba's involving

7009
04:41:07,335 --> 04:41:09,335
major economic development

7010
04:41:09,637 --> 04:41:10,471
projects, significant

7011
04:41:10,471 --> 04:41:11,772
infrastructure demands, public

7012
04:41:11,772 --> 04:41:13,441
incentives are matters likely

7013
04:41:13,441 --> 04:41:14,809
to come before the commission

7014
04:41:14,809 --> 04:41:17,209
for future action transparent.

7015
04:41:19,380 --> 04:41:20,481
You should be the

7016
04:41:20,481 --> 04:41:21,515
confidentiality should be no

7017
04:41:21,515 --> 04:41:22,117
going to find exception and

7018
04:41:22,117 --> 04:41:22,717
there should always be

7019
04:41:22,717 --> 04:41:24,717
accountability for who

7020
04:41:25,286 --> 04:41:27,322
authorized and watt I'm asking

7021
04:41:27,322 --> 04:41:28,356
the commission to establish

7022
04:41:28,356 --> 04:41:29,560
cartels rather than leaving

7023
04:41:29,560 --> 04:41:32,656
the only to the discretion of

7024
04:41:33,260 --> 04:41:34,662
an al elected staff. Just I do

7025
04:41:34,662 --> 04:41:35,363
not believe any commissioner

7026
04:41:35,363 --> 04:41:36,300
should be allowed to sign an

7027
04:41:36,300 --> 04:41:38,430
nda that keeps information

7028
04:41:38,666 --> 04:41:40,768
away from citizens. For us.

7029
04:41:40,768 --> 04:41:41,936
Could you imagine an employee

7030
04:41:41,936 --> 04:41:42,636
of year signing an nda said

7031
04:41:42,636 --> 04:41:43,337
you couldn't know what they

7032
04:41:43,337 --> 04:41:43,938
were up to it is insane to me

7033
04:41:43,938 --> 04:41:46,938
that this would even be

7034
04:41:50,345 --> 04:41:51,120
allowed to happen. Was not

7035
04:41:51,120 --> 04:41:52,580
asked remember every minute

7036
04:41:52,580 --> 04:41:54,382
facts, port residents women

7037
04:41:54,382 --> 04:41:55,116
shouldn't be differently be

7038
04:41:55,116 --> 04:41:55,783
transparent upfront and honest

7039
04:41:55,783 --> 04:41:59,983
no one is like no one likes

7040
04:42:01,556 --> 04:42:02,223
deception. See you I support

7041
04:42:02,223 --> 04:42:03,557
commissioners and residents

7042
04:42:03,557 --> 04:42:04,459
deserve more transparency,

7043
04:42:04,459 --> 04:42:06,459
especially when major

7044
04:42:06,894 --> 04:42:07,594
development the cetacean not

7045
04:42:07,594 --> 04:42:08,329
the main agreements that keep

7046
04:42:08,329 --> 04:42:09,300
important information from the

7047
04:42:09,300 --> 04:42:11,430
public without commission at

7048
04:42:12,600 --> 04:42:13,601
least knowing makes este if

7049
04:42:13,601 --> 04:42:14,269
project that could

7050
04:42:14,269 --> 04:42:15,300
significantly impact our

7051
04:42:15,300 --> 04:42:15,703
community residents deserve as

7052
04:42:15,703 --> 04:42:18,103
much transparency as legally

7053
04:42:20,700 --> 04:42:22,407
possible. Mary matalin. And

7054
04:42:26,247 --> 04:42:27,481
you to be sure commissioners.

7055
04:42:27,481 --> 04:42:29,283
Facing an indication sounds

7056
04:42:29,283 --> 04:42:30,184
like a step toward

7057
04:42:30,184 --> 04:42:31,486
transparency simply notifying

7058
04:42:31,486 --> 04:42:32,487
the commission is a

7059
04:42:32,487 --> 04:42:34,389
dangerously weak approach that

7060
04:42:34,389 --> 04:42:36,457
still legitimate eyes is

7061
04:42:36,457 --> 04:42:37,458
corporate deals in our city

7062
04:42:37,458 --> 04:42:39,560
massive tech developers try to

7063
04:42:39,560 --> 04:42:40,328
sneak into our neighborhoods

7064
04:42:40,328 --> 04:42:41,362
high impact industrial

7065
04:42:41,362 --> 04:42:41,997
center's they use aggressive

7066
04:42:41,997 --> 04:42:42,697
nda is to keep the public

7067
04:42:42,697 --> 04:42:45,199
completely in the dark until

7068
04:42:45,199 --> 04:42:46,100
it's too late, merely

7069
04:42:46,100 --> 04:42:46,801
establishing process to notify

7070
04:42:46,801 --> 04:42:48,936
city leadership that a secret

7071
04:42:48,936 --> 04:42:49,670
agreement exists does not ups.

7072
04:42:49,670 --> 04:42:52,670
Absolutely nothing to stop the

7073
04:42:52,807 --> 04:42:55,420
secrecy of self we must push

7074
04:42:55,420 --> 04:42:55,776
back against any allies do not

7075
04:42:55,776 --> 04:42:57,145
just want our commissioners to

7076
04:42:57,145 --> 04:43:00,145
be notified when a corporation

7077
04:43:01,115 --> 04:43:02,149
for we want ban on non

7078
04:43:02,149 --> 04:43:03,517
disclosure agreements between

7079
04:43:03,517 --> 04:43:04,850
public officials and private

7080
04:43:04,850 --> 04:43:04,819
developers are local

7081
04:43:04,819 --> 04:43:07,219
government should operate with

7082
04:43:07,455 --> 04:43:08,456
absolute transparency letting

7083
04:43:08,456 --> 04:43:09,570
predatory developers by our

7084
04:43:09,570 --> 04:43:11,457
city staff were elected

7085
04:43:12,293 --> 04:43:13,940
leaders to a level quickly

7086
04:43:13,940 --> 04:43:13,661
secrecy distress, public trust

7087
04:43:13,661 --> 04:43:14,262
and leaves residents

7088
04:43:14,262 --> 04:43:17,262
vulnerable to hit in an

7089
04:43:17,265 --> 04:43:17,932
environmental and

7090
04:43:17,932 --> 04:43:19,000
infrastructure. Cost demand

7091
04:43:19,000 --> 04:43:21,000
absolute transparency, not

7092
04:43:22,360 --> 04:43:23,137
just medication. Stacey

7093
04:43:23,137 --> 04:43:25,137
mention. Commissioner should

7094
04:43:25,973 --> 04:43:26,574
be informed of any existing

7095
04:43:26,574 --> 04:43:27,508
nba's nda should not be

7096
04:43:27,508 --> 04:43:28,242
tolerated in north port, the

7097
04:43:28,242 --> 04:43:28,944
residents deserve the right to

7098
04:43:28,944 --> 04:43:32,544
be informed at all times and

7099
04:43:33,180 --> 04:43:35,180
that's on there.

7100
04:43:36,751 --> 04:43:39,151
>> and request a mayor.

7101
04:43:40,421 --> 04:43:42,821
commissioner think first I

7102
04:43:46,950 --> 04:43:47,195
want

7103
04:43:47,195 --> 04:43:50,165
>> make a motion to direct

7104
04:43:50,165 --> 04:43:51,165
staff to draft an ordinance to

7105
04:43:51,165 --> 04:43:51,866
bring back to commission for

7106
04:43:51,866 --> 04:43:52,467
first reading to do away with

7107
04:43:52,467 --> 04:43:56,670
and the a's in the city

7108
04:43:57,639 --> 04:43:58,773
of north port.

7109
04:43:58,773 --> 04:44:00,742
>> second for discussion I

7110
04:44:00,742 --> 04:44:02,544
have a motion on the floor

7111
04:44:02,544 --> 04:44:03,778
made commissioner stokes

7112
04:44:03,778 --> 04:44:06,778
seconded by vice mayor and

7113
04:44:08,649 --> 04:44:10,384
vice mayor you want like to.

7114
04:44:10,384 --> 04:44:12,384
>> propose.

7115
04:44:17,659 --> 04:44:20,590
>> that. Struck city turning

7116
04:44:20,428 --> 04:44:21,950
to prepare ordinance

7117
04:44:21,950 --> 04:44:23,950
eliminating administrative

7118
04:44:25,366 --> 04:44:27,168
approval of an nda is and

7119
04:44:27,168 --> 04:44:27,802
require that city commission

7120
04:44:27,802 --> 04:44:30,802
decide whether or not to

7121
04:44:31,172 --> 04:44:31,773
permit the city to engage in

7122
04:44:31,773 --> 04:44:32,340
nda with appropriate

7123
04:44:32,340 --> 04:44:34,340
information redacted

7124
04:44:34,375 --> 04:44:36,375
including.

7125
04:44:39,380 --> 04:44:41,380
>> company name.

7126
04:44:41,549 --> 04:44:43,549
>> perspective city location

7127
04:44:44,319 --> 04:44:45,653
industry industry segment

7128
04:44:45,653 --> 04:44:46,454
applications and products and

7129
04:44:46,454 --> 04:44:48,854
other appropriate business and

7130
04:44:53,280 --> 04:44:54,620
technical details.

7131
04:44:54,620 --> 04:44:54,762
>> question there. Yes,

7132
04:44:54,762 --> 04:44:57,162
discussion that's what we're

7133
04:45:02,570 --> 04:45:03,304
doing that were occur.

7134
04:45:03,304 --> 04:45:06,304
Commission would have to under

7135
04:45:07,509 --> 04:45:08,209
the sunshine discuss

7136
04:45:08,209 --> 04:45:10,609
everything about the proposed

7137
04:45:12,213 --> 04:45:15,116
project for which nda is being

7138
04:45:15,116 --> 04:45:15,816
requested which undermine the

7139
04:45:15,816 --> 04:45:16,484
entire concept of the nba in

7140
04:45:16,484 --> 04:45:20,840
the first place so I'll see

7141
04:45:21,856 --> 04:45:22,491
how that is even practical.

7142
04:45:22,491 --> 04:45:24,491
>> possibility absolutely

7143
04:45:25,860 --> 04:45:27,362
discussing so.

7144
04:45:27,362 --> 04:45:27,996
>> I was laid out that kind of

7145
04:45:27,996 --> 04:45:30,396
information that would be

7146
04:45:33,534 --> 04:45:35,934
redacted. And the conversation

7147
04:45:39,741 --> 04:45:40,750
which would protecting.

7148
04:45:40,750 --> 04:45:40,742
>> the.

7149
04:45:40,742 --> 04:45:42,742
>> business and technology

7150
04:45:43,678 --> 04:45:45,146
plans of the company with the

7151
04:45:45,146 --> 04:45:48,146
ability of this commission to

7152
04:45:53,955 --> 04:45:54,856
say. Whether or not it should

7153
04:45:54,856 --> 04:45:57,626
move MAY I ask a question and

7154
04:45:57,626 --> 04:46:00,626
city attorney would it be

7155
04:46:03,164 --> 04:46:03,765
possible. Is there any

7156
04:46:03,765 --> 04:46:05,765
conflict with existing

7157
04:46:08,136 --> 04:46:10,536
legislation. For the city

7158
04:46:12,600 --> 04:46:13,800
commissioners to have that

7159
04:46:13,800 --> 04:46:16,800
information but to read at

7160
04:46:27,550 --> 04:46:29,550
that information public

7161
04:46:35,960 --> 04:46:39,296
>> I do I do think so. Again

7162
04:46:40,101 --> 04:46:43,101
problem I I'm trying to

7163
04:46:43,372 --> 04:46:43,972
>> is if this body has an

7164
04:46:43,972 --> 04:46:45,907
opportunity to save the

7165
04:46:45,907 --> 04:46:48,307
details of an nda.

7166
04:46:51,460 --> 04:46:51,746
>> and.

7167
04:46:51,746 --> 04:46:52,847
>> just as an example, it's a

7168
04:46:52,847 --> 04:46:54,847
heavy industrial project.

7169
04:46:58,654 --> 04:46:59,388
That. Based on that the

7170
04:46:59,388 --> 04:47:02,988
location of that we would have

7171
04:47:03,325 --> 04:47:05,827
all of those details. We would

7172
04:47:05,827 --> 04:47:08,827
have the information to decide

7173
04:47:10,131 --> 04:47:10,832
well no we really don't think

7174
04:47:10,832 --> 04:47:13,368
it's appropriate for the city

7175
04:47:13,368 --> 04:47:14,690
to enter into an nda with this

7176
04:47:14,690 --> 04:47:16,469
particular project because of

7177
04:47:20,742 --> 04:47:21,476
the possible. Quality of life

7178
04:47:21,476 --> 04:47:24,476
implications, so we would need

7179
04:47:26,648 --> 04:47:27,582
that information. To make an

7180
04:47:27,582 --> 04:47:28,316
informed decision about

7181
04:47:28,316 --> 04:47:31,916
whether or not to move forward

7182
04:47:34,389 --> 04:47:35,891
with an nda. But we have no

7183
04:47:35,891 --> 04:47:38,891
concerns so let's say it's

7184
04:47:42,630 --> 04:47:43,265
simply business company

7185
04:47:43,265 --> 04:47:43,898
doesn't want to be public

7186
04:47:43,898 --> 04:47:45,898
information that they're

7187
04:47:46,501 --> 04:47:49,501
planning to purchase and low

7188
04:47:50,538 --> 04:47:54,900
case at a certain parcel in

7189
04:47:54,900 --> 04:47:54,609
the city. That's in my mind is

7190
04:47:54,609 --> 04:47:56,609
certainly appropriate.

7191
04:47:57,450 --> 04:47:59,981
Protection and we might all

7192
04:47:59,981 --> 04:48:02,981
decide and a public setting.

7193
04:48:06,688 --> 04:48:07,422
To approve that nda with with

7194
04:48:07,422 --> 04:48:08,890
potentially damaging

7195
04:48:08,890 --> 04:48:10,890
information redacted that's

7196
04:48:11,826 --> 04:48:14,226
what I'm trying to.

7197
04:48:14,630 --> 04:48:15,764
>> get to how do we have that

7198
04:48:15,764 --> 04:48:17,764
conversation without share

7199
04:48:18,667 --> 04:48:20,802
that information publicly we

7200
04:48:20,802 --> 04:48:21,502
could do it in one eye was we

7201
04:48:21,502 --> 04:48:25,102
can figure that then we have

7202
04:48:25,507 --> 04:48:27,709
to come here as a body.

7203
04:48:27,709 --> 04:48:28,477
>> to discuss whether or not

7204
04:48:28,477 --> 04:48:30,879
to an acting and on that

7205
04:48:30,879 --> 04:48:33,515
project and the subject of

7206
04:48:33,515 --> 04:48:35,515
that conversation would

7207
04:48:35,650 --> 04:48:36,518
inadvertently or overtly

7208
04:48:36,518 --> 04:48:37,686
disclose information that

7209
04:48:37,686 --> 04:48:41,286
would be subject to the nba.

7210
04:48:41,356 --> 04:48:43,458
It's just not practical

7211
04:48:43,458 --> 04:48:44,759
workable situation, the

7212
04:48:44,759 --> 04:48:45,994
existing legislation that

7213
04:48:45,994 --> 04:48:46,728
exists to protect proprietary

7214
04:48:46,728 --> 04:48:49,728
information that the state has

7215
04:48:52,534 --> 04:48:54,934
mandated. Says it's protect

7216
04:48:58,740 --> 04:48:59,641
and their information.

7217
04:48:59,641 --> 04:49:00,709
>> we don't need and that

7218
04:49:00,709 --> 04:49:01,309
because if they have a private

7219
04:49:01,309 --> 04:49:02,411
or information that can

7220
04:49:02,411 --> 04:49:04,811
disclosed to public records.

7221
04:49:06,281 --> 04:49:09,840
>> we can discuss it. But it

7222
04:49:09,840 --> 04:49:11,987
can't be too slow so in

7223
04:49:11,987 --> 04:49:13,880
protest the I go back to the

7224
04:49:13,880 --> 04:49:14,789
original premise of this whole

7225
04:49:14,789 --> 04:49:15,491
thing which is we are not

7226
04:49:15,491 --> 04:49:18,491
private business. We are the

7227
04:49:19,794 --> 04:49:21,262
government we spend taxpayers

7228
04:49:21,262 --> 04:49:21,997
money. You know work for the

7229
04:49:21,997 --> 04:49:24,997
public we represent the public

7230
04:49:26,935 --> 04:49:28,904
and. We don't know everything

7231
04:49:28,904 --> 04:49:29,571
that's going on and if public

7232
04:49:29,571 --> 04:49:31,673
can't know pretty much

7233
04:49:31,673 --> 04:49:32,874
everything that's going and

7234
04:49:32,874 --> 04:49:34,709
the system's not working the

7235
04:49:34,709 --> 04:49:37,712
way it was intended to it is

7236
04:49:37,712 --> 04:49:40,712
not private business and if

7237
04:49:40,848 --> 04:49:41,716
loses a deal there's only 3 in

7238
04:49:41,716 --> 04:49:43,518
all the time or it could come

7239
04:49:43,518 --> 04:49:47,718
up with so I don't see how

7240
04:49:48,590 --> 04:49:50,425
even real problem and the

7241
04:49:50,425 --> 04:49:51,994
>> came into play look at

7242
04:49:51,994 --> 04:49:56,194
where we are right so I don't

7243
04:49:56,931 --> 04:49:57,799
blame anybody except that.

7244
04:49:57,799 --> 04:49:59,167
>> stan follow the law fall

7245
04:49:59,167 --> 04:50:01,737
the process they did what it

7246
04:50:01,737 --> 04:50:03,138
was they were supposed to and

7247
04:50:03,138 --> 04:50:03,839
what they were allowed to do

7248
04:50:03,839 --> 04:50:04,439
and look at where gas. I say

7249
04:50:04,439 --> 04:50:05,140
get rid of these things

7250
04:50:05,140 --> 04:50:06,842
because they don't serve any

7251
04:50:06,842 --> 04:50:07,676
purpose, the way I see it. But

7252
04:50:07,676 --> 04:50:10,676
anyway that's my take. Thank

7253
04:50:12,981 --> 04:50:14,316
you to me.

7254
04:50:14,316 --> 04:50:15,551
>> most of they're so I guess

7255
04:50:15,551 --> 04:50:17,190
you know anyone thought we got

7256
04:50:17,190 --> 04:50:18,620
a motion we've got a minute

7257
04:50:18,620 --> 04:50:18,921
we've got to go first write

7258
04:50:18,921 --> 04:50:20,921
that.

7259
04:50:23,191 --> 04:50:23,792
>> I mean we get in the

7260
04:50:23,792 --> 04:50:24,526
moment. Propose you did

7261
04:50:24,526 --> 04:50:28,126
propose it as an amendment you

7262
04:50:29,898 --> 04:50:30,766
put that we were in

7263
04:50:30,766 --> 04:50:32,766
discussion.

7264
04:50:32,768 --> 04:50:34,570
>> vote on it there was no

7265
04:50:34,570 --> 04:50:35,270
second on would you like me

7266
04:50:35,270 --> 04:50:37,573
articulate you would have to

7267
04:50:37,573 --> 04:50:39,573
do it

7268
04:50:40,341 --> 04:50:42,741
>> and strapped city attorney.

7269
04:50:44,120 --> 04:50:44,679
To prepare an ordinance

7270
04:50:44,679 --> 04:50:46,679
eliminating administrative

7271
04:50:52,187 --> 04:50:52,688
approval. Of nba's. And

7272
04:50:52,688 --> 04:50:54,688
require that city

7273
04:50:58,159 --> 04:50:58,860
commissioners decide. Whether

7274
04:50:58,860 --> 04:51:03,600
or not to permit the city to

7275
04:51:03,666 --> 04:51:07,866
engage in an nda. Let me know

7276
04:51:08,770 --> 04:51:09,672
when you're there. With

7277
04:51:09,672 --> 04:51:10,205
appropriate information reid

7278
04:51:10,205 --> 04:51:12,605
acted in any public

7279
04:51:17,146 --> 04:51:18,847
conversation. Some of that

7280
04:51:18,847 --> 04:51:20,847
information could include

7281
04:51:22,117 --> 04:51:24,517
company name. Prospective city

7282
04:51:28,857 --> 04:51:30,857
location. Industry segment.

7283
04:51:33,929 --> 04:51:34,863
Application our products. Or

7284
04:51:34,863 --> 04:51:37,263
other appropriate business or

7285
04:51:49,111 --> 04:51:50,450
technical details.

7286
04:51:50,450 --> 04:51:50,745
Thank

7287
04:51:50,745 --> 04:51:51,780
>> have an amendment on the

7288
04:51:51,780 --> 04:51:54,780
floor made by vice mayor

7289
04:51:59,588 --> 04:52:02,391
london do I have a second. I

7290
04:52:02,391 --> 04:52:04,930
do not have a son that second.

7291
04:52:04,930 --> 04:52:04,693
That they'll sue to a lack of

7292
04:52:04,693 --> 04:52:07,128
a second. Now on to the

7293
04:52:07,128 --> 04:52:09,128
original motion. There's

7294
04:52:17,906 --> 04:52:20,306
nothing to please vote. 41

7295
04:52:22,444 --> 04:52:23,111
with vice mayor dissenting.

7296
04:52:23,111 --> 04:52:26,111
>> would like I think that

7297
04:52:30,886 --> 04:52:31,921
this. Decisions severely

7298
04:52:31,921 --> 04:52:32,487
negatively impacts the from

7299
04:52:32,487 --> 04:52:34,487
attracting potential

7300
04:52:35,791 --> 04:52:38,791
businesses. We would want to

7301
04:52:42,431 --> 04:52:46,310
have here. And. Folks it's not

7302
04:52:46,435 --> 04:52:49,839
like beaten down or to come

7303
04:52:49,839 --> 04:52:50,506
here. So do something that

7304
04:52:50,506 --> 04:52:52,906
artificially makes it more

7305
04:52:56,245 --> 04:52:56,545
difficult or impossible. For

7306
04:52:56,545 --> 04:52:57,479
them.

7307
04:52:57,479 --> 04:52:59,281
>> to come here let's face

7308
04:52:59,281 --> 04:53:01,417
these companies have options

7309
04:53:01,417 --> 04:53:03,285
if they're considering a place

7310
04:53:03,285 --> 04:53:05,685
to locate their businesses

7311
04:53:08,560 --> 04:53:08,891
that considering 2 or 3

7312
04:53:08,891 --> 04:53:09,591
locations. So if this says get

7313
04:53:09,591 --> 04:53:13,191
back don't know we've all for

7314
04:53:16,980 --> 04:53:18,660
taft. Your business or

7315
04:53:18,660 --> 04:53:19,234
technical information they

7316
04:53:19,234 --> 04:53:19,968
will go somewhere else and we

7317
04:53:19,968 --> 04:53:23,205
won't get the jobs and we will

7318
04:53:23,205 --> 04:53:24,940
get the tax relief and I'm

7319
04:53:24,940 --> 04:53:26,375
sure there are a lot of people

7320
04:53:26,375 --> 04:53:29,975
in the city that would like

7321
04:53:30,110 --> 04:53:33,611
every bit of building to stop

7322
04:53:33,716 --> 04:53:34,517
today. Sorry we can't legally

7323
04:53:34,517 --> 04:53:39,317
do that all we can do and what

7324
04:53:39,488 --> 04:53:42,458
we are responsible for is to

7325
04:53:42,458 --> 04:53:44,293
make sure that 5 1015 years

7326
04:53:44,293 --> 04:53:48,431
from now we have a city that

7327
04:53:48,431 --> 04:53:49,364
is financially viable and this

7328
04:53:49,364 --> 04:53:52,364
does to us in that

7329
04:53:55,404 --> 04:53:57,404
responsibility. I yield.

7330
04:54:01,377 --> 04:54:01,977
>> moving on to item 26 to

7331
04:54:01,977 --> 04:54:03,545
continue discussion and

7332
04:54:03,545 --> 04:54:04,212
possible action regarding

7333
04:54:04,212 --> 04:54:06,212
reversal of administrative

7334
04:54:08,784 --> 04:54:09,551
approval process with that the

7335
04:54:09,551 --> 04:54:11,551
united unified land

7336
04:54:13,989 --> 04:54:14,523
development code requested by

7337
04:54:14,523 --> 04:54:15,190
commissioner goals.

7338
04:54:15,190 --> 04:54:17,190
>> commissioner still thank

7339
04:54:18,527 --> 04:54:21,527
you mayor. Well. First though

7340
04:54:23,398 --> 04:54:25,798
say that. Administrator for

7341
04:54:31,730 --> 04:54:33,208
approval. Okay, but. The

7342
04:54:33,208 --> 04:54:35,208
concept of administrative

7343
04:54:35,944 --> 04:54:38,113
approval close to the law

7344
04:54:38,113 --> 04:54:38,748
which is if something is

7345
04:54:38,748 --> 04:54:39,415
compliant with the

7346
04:54:39,415 --> 04:54:41,815
comprehensive plan and the

7347
04:54:44,219 --> 04:54:44,953
uldc. Then it can be approved.

7348
04:54:44,953 --> 04:54:47,353
There's no legal justification

7349
04:54:49,525 --> 04:54:53,725
for tonight. And I it going to

7350
04:54:56,232 --> 04:54:58,632
change that. Well prior

7351
04:55:02,137 --> 04:55:04,373
reported which I we voted to

7352
04:55:04,373 --> 04:55:06,175
allow administrative approval

7353
04:55:06,175 --> 04:55:07,543
which created a process

7354
04:55:07,543 --> 04:55:08,244
whereby something could be

7355
04:55:08,244 --> 04:55:08,978
okay because it met with the

7356
04:55:08,978 --> 04:55:12,578
comp plan and the unified land

7357
04:55:14,116 --> 04:55:16,516
development code. For staff.

7358
04:55:18,287 --> 04:55:18,788
What it did was it took away

7359
04:55:18,788 --> 04:55:21,188
and it took away

7360
04:55:24,493 --> 04:55:26,493
inclusiveness. Even it's

7361
04:55:27,430 --> 04:55:28,831
illegal way from a legal

7362
04:55:28,831 --> 04:55:29,498
standpoint, so what proposing

7363
04:55:29,498 --> 04:55:30,766
here and the reason I asked

7364
04:55:30,766 --> 04:55:34,366
for this item on the agenda.

7365
04:55:35,404 --> 04:55:39,400
He said I think. Projects well

7366
04:55:41,944 --> 04:55:43,913
not projects any project. Well

7367
04:55:43,913 --> 04:55:46,716
we have to define which

7368
04:55:46,716 --> 04:55:47,383
projects but to me apartments

7369
04:55:47,383 --> 04:55:49,170
commercial projects pretty

7370
04:55:49,170 --> 04:55:49,919
much anything except

7371
04:55:49,919 --> 04:55:50,519
single-family all kind of

7372
04:55:50,519 --> 04:55:52,519
development should calm

7373
04:55:53,723 --> 04:55:55,357
through commission that not

7374
04:55:55,357 --> 04:55:58,357
just the commission. But the

7375
04:56:01,864 --> 04:56:04,633
public. To know. To provide

7376
04:56:04,633 --> 04:56:07,633
their input their or opinions.

7377
04:56:10,706 --> 04:56:11,974
>> stay still has.

7378
04:56:11,974 --> 04:56:13,974
>> the administrative approval

7379
04:56:14,743 --> 04:56:16,110
process that they have to

7380
04:56:16,110 --> 04:56:17,746
follow it's complying with the

7381
04:56:17,746 --> 04:56:21,946
comp plan what we say it can

7382
04:56:21,984 --> 04:56:23,219
get approved just we shouldn't

7383
04:56:23,219 --> 04:56:25,788
think decisions as an elected

7384
04:56:25,788 --> 04:56:28,788
body without input of staff.

7385
04:56:31,460 --> 04:56:32,261
Public case for us community

7386
04:56:32,261 --> 04:56:32,862
input we should make our

7387
04:56:32,862 --> 04:56:35,262
decisions based on the

7388
04:56:36,332 --> 04:56:36,966
collective been pulled and I

7389
04:56:36,966 --> 04:56:38,966
think the administrative

7390
04:56:44,140 --> 04:56:47,140
approval. Even though we here

7391
04:56:47,376 --> 04:56:48,770
should be collect and I think

7392
04:56:48,770 --> 04:56:48,644
it's important that again for

7393
04:56:48,644 --> 04:56:51,440
the same reason it's

7394
04:56:55,184 --> 04:56:56,586
unfriendly a's. Any time an

7395
04:56:56,586 --> 04:56:59,586
elected does not know what's

7396
04:57:01,223 --> 04:57:04,226
going on that's a problem and

7397
04:57:04,226 --> 04:57:05,194
it is a problem I get people

7398
04:57:05,194 --> 04:57:08,131
saying hey are the corner of

7399
04:57:08,131 --> 04:57:12,931
such and such and such and I I

7400
04:57:13,468 --> 04:57:14,504
have no I don't know anything

7401
04:57:14,504 --> 04:57:15,204
about project before you think

7402
04:57:15,204 --> 04:57:18,204
this is nothing really wanted

7403
04:57:18,241 --> 04:57:18,941
say except that it doesn't

7404
04:57:18,941 --> 04:57:22,541
bode well, know I should you

7405
04:57:23,312 --> 04:57:26,312
know. There's no reason why

7406
04:57:27,216 --> 04:57:28,351
know, and I'm not trying to

7407
04:57:28,351 --> 04:57:30,419
take away. The city's ability

7408
04:57:30,419 --> 04:57:32,421
do what's legal in right now

7409
04:57:32,421 --> 04:57:33,523
the reason this happens so you

7410
04:57:33,523 --> 04:57:34,223
get some perspective in

7411
04:57:34,223 --> 04:57:37,223
history is always with prior

7412
04:57:38,994 --> 04:57:39,661
to getting elected. To a

7413
04:57:39,661 --> 04:57:40,395
product that was brought

7414
04:57:40,395 --> 04:57:43,395
forward before this before the

7415
04:57:43,899 --> 04:57:44,467
commission at that time in

7416
04:57:44,467 --> 04:57:46,201
2021. Citizens remain

7417
04:57:46,201 --> 04:57:48,201
presentation. Close to 50

7418
04:57:52,741 --> 04:57:53,443
people. Did a beautiful job.

7419
04:57:53,443 --> 04:57:56,443
I'm he's variance or special

7420
04:57:56,946 --> 04:57:58,946
exception. And commissioners

7421
04:58:01,317 --> 04:58:04,320
voted in favor of the citizens

7422
04:58:04,320 --> 04:58:06,320
perspective. 100% opposition

7423
04:58:13,196 --> 04:58:15,197
to the law should word. The

7424
04:58:15,197 --> 04:58:18,197
came up. And required. A

7425
04:58:19,802 --> 04:58:20,503
request for change. And the

7426
04:58:20,503 --> 04:58:24,103
mayor wasn't the mayor at the

7427
04:58:26,108 --> 04:58:28,100
time in my cell photo id to

7428
04:58:28,100 --> 04:58:31,100
allow the applicant pool out

7429
04:58:31,280 --> 04:58:31,981
change much to the chagrin but

7430
04:58:31,981 --> 04:58:34,750
we followed a little because

7431
04:58:34,750 --> 04:58:37,750
we didn't succumb. To public

7432
04:58:37,887 --> 04:58:40,287
will that's what concept

7433
04:58:40,890 --> 04:58:42,890
behind this administrative

7434
04:58:43,192 --> 04:58:44,593
approving protect the city

7435
04:58:44,593 --> 04:58:45,294
from making mistakes that were

7436
04:58:45,294 --> 04:58:47,294
politically motivated treated

7437
04:58:50,866 --> 04:58:52,668
so that I get that we all have

7438
04:58:52,668 --> 04:58:55,671
to follow the law that's the

7439
04:58:55,671 --> 04:58:56,205
first rule follow the

7440
04:58:56,205 --> 04:58:58,205
>> transparency and

7441
04:59:00,643 --> 04:59:03,430
inclusiveness. Runs right side

7442
04:59:03,279 --> 04:59:06,949
and for that reason I think we

7443
04:59:06,949 --> 04:59:07,650
really need to amend ordinance

7444
04:59:07,650 --> 04:59:10,500
straight approval process to

7445
04:59:11,154 --> 04:59:12,288
make sure that all projects

7446
04:59:12,288 --> 04:59:14,688
save single family housing

7447
04:59:15,825 --> 04:59:16,825
developments have to come

7448
04:59:16,825 --> 04:59:17,494
before commission can do so in

7449
04:59:17,494 --> 04:59:19,494
workshop environment state

7450
04:59:20,830 --> 04:59:22,565
we're not going to get but

7451
04:59:22,565 --> 04:59:23,666
they come for where citizens

7452
04:59:23,666 --> 04:59:24,233
can provide public

7453
04:59:24,233 --> 04:59:24,900
commissioners can ask

7454
04:59:24,900 --> 04:59:27,900
questions and step in it's

7455
04:59:28,270 --> 04:59:30,606
for. What they hear from us

7456
04:59:30,606 --> 04:59:34,806
and then they go back in the

7457
04:59:35,111 --> 04:59:35,744
but they MAY well be able to

7458
04:59:35,744 --> 04:59:36,413
do whatever they do with

7459
04:59:36,413 --> 04:59:37,113
benefit of our input and I

7460
04:59:37,113 --> 04:59:39,513
just think that's important.

7461
04:59:41,217 --> 04:59:41,918
So.

7462
04:59:41,918 --> 04:59:44,918
>> but due to commission here

7463
04:59:49,358 --> 04:59:50,326
send us commissioner deval.

7464
04:59:50,326 --> 04:59:53,326
>> must speak your name is

7465
04:59:57,433 --> 05:00:00,690
right there I say the from the

7466
05:00:00,690 --> 05:00:02,805
but thank you vice mayor your

7467
05:00:02,805 --> 05:00:05,805
next yes, thank you. My.

7468
05:00:07,770 --> 05:00:07,777
>> perception of this.

7469
05:00:07,777 --> 05:00:10,613
>> is that it is our job as a

7470
05:00:10,613 --> 05:00:11,347
body to make the rules. And

7471
05:00:11,347 --> 05:00:12,949
it's staff's job to carry them

7472
05:00:12,949 --> 05:00:14,949
out.

7473
05:00:16,953 --> 05:00:18,421
>> and.

7474
05:00:18,421 --> 05:00:21,421
>> I do see our role.

7475
05:00:22,926 --> 05:00:25,326
>> and as. Approving projects

7476
05:00:31,333 --> 05:00:33,869
item. Really don't think I

7477
05:00:33,869 --> 05:00:34,537
want to spend a lot of time

7478
05:00:34,537 --> 05:00:36,937
discussing projects that we

7479
05:00:39,809 --> 05:00:40,510
can impact. I understand and

7480
05:00:40,510 --> 05:00:44,710
and I agree the public has a

7481
05:00:44,747 --> 05:00:48,347
right to know. We do have

7482
05:00:49,585 --> 05:00:51,554
information on our website

7483
05:00:51,554 --> 05:00:52,489
I've gone to a number of times

7484
05:00:52,489 --> 05:00:53,156
when I've a lot cleared and I

7485
05:00:53,156 --> 05:00:56,156
don't know what's going on

7486
05:00:58,527 --> 05:01:00,463
there I go to the map. And I

7487
05:01:00,463 --> 05:01:02,432
find out it's not the easiest

7488
05:01:02,432 --> 05:01:03,132
to use because there are so

7489
05:01:03,132 --> 05:01:03,833
many projects going on in the

7490
05:01:03,833 --> 05:01:07,433
city you can always find the

7491
05:01:07,903 --> 05:01:10,903
one you're looking for. I

7492
05:01:12,442 --> 05:01:13,276
think there's better way then

7493
05:01:13,276 --> 05:01:15,276
having 5 city commissioners

7494
05:01:18,114 --> 05:01:20,514
and staff. Discussing projects

7495
05:01:22,618 --> 05:01:23,319
that meet the rules in order

7496
05:01:23,319 --> 05:01:26,919
to inform the public. I think

7497
05:01:27,223 --> 05:01:29,325
there are other ways if we get

7498
05:01:29,325 --> 05:01:31,725
creative of informing the

7499
05:01:32,862 --> 05:01:33,696
public of what's happening and

7500
05:01:33,696 --> 05:01:36,466
where MAY adding some and not

7501
05:01:36,466 --> 05:01:37,133
going to try to craft a

7502
05:01:37,133 --> 05:01:40,133
solution here. But I think

7503
05:01:40,771 --> 05:01:43,771
there are more efficient and

7504
05:01:44,907 --> 05:01:45,741
effective ways to the public

7505
05:01:45,741 --> 05:01:48,644
of what's happening where then

7506
05:01:48,644 --> 05:01:52,844
to chew up a lot of time

7507
05:01:53,883 --> 05:01:55,585
meetings are expensive. Think

7508
05:01:55,585 --> 05:01:57,854
a lot all the staff that sits

7509
05:01:57,854 --> 05:02:01,454
here listening to opine on on

7510
05:02:01,791 --> 05:02:04,894
all of these matters. I would

7511
05:02:04,894 --> 05:02:06,629
love to do an estimate of what

7512
05:02:06,629 --> 05:02:09,290
every hour of commission

7513
05:02:09,799 --> 05:02:12,799
meeting time cost the city.

7514
05:02:13,402 --> 05:02:17,200
And I'm all when. We're doing

7515
05:02:19,276 --> 05:02:22,212
it to execute. Jobs. And

7516
05:02:22,212 --> 05:02:22,912
ensuring that people get the

7517
05:02:22,912 --> 05:02:23,813
information they need that we

7518
05:02:23,813 --> 05:02:27,413
get the information we need to

7519
05:02:28,852 --> 05:02:31,354
do our jobs. Don't think

7520
05:02:31,354 --> 05:02:33,354
that's discussing. Every

7521
05:02:34,490 --> 05:02:35,692
project minus single-family

7522
05:02:35,692 --> 05:02:38,692
homes that comes before this

7523
05:02:39,596 --> 05:02:41,498
body. I just don't think it's

7524
05:02:41,498 --> 05:02:42,432
an efficient way it's our job

7525
05:02:42,432 --> 05:02:45,902
to come up with the world if

7526
05:02:45,902 --> 05:02:48,538
the rules right then let's

7527
05:02:48,538 --> 05:02:49,239
changeup and then staff's job

7528
05:02:49,239 --> 05:02:52,239
to execute according to those

7529
05:02:53,543 --> 05:02:55,543
rules.

7530
05:02:58,315 --> 05:03:00,715
>> commissioners you first I'm

7531
05:03:00,716 --> 05:03:04,316
not looking to take away. Or

7532
05:03:06,289 --> 05:03:06,990
to approve projects, ok go up

7533
05:03:06,990 --> 05:03:07,657
the pace whether the project

7534
05:03:07,657 --> 05:03:10,493
is compliant with the comp

7535
05:03:10,493 --> 05:03:11,995
plan you will be safe. But

7536
05:03:11,995 --> 05:03:15,595
first of all to address the

7537
05:03:16,299 --> 05:03:19,299
issue of staff's time. With

7538
05:03:21,504 --> 05:03:24,504
all due we represent citizens

7539
05:03:25,709 --> 05:03:29,846
in the city and it all up. I

7540
05:03:29,846 --> 05:03:32,682
just for the life of me you

7541
05:03:32,682 --> 05:03:33,416
know one of the biggest

7542
05:03:33,416 --> 05:03:36,386
problems we seem to have in

7543
05:03:36,386 --> 05:03:38,288
the city is the fact that

7544
05:03:38,288 --> 05:03:40,690
people are you know some

7545
05:03:40,690 --> 05:03:42,392
people anyway are up the

7546
05:03:42,392 --> 05:03:44,728
concern over the fact that

7547
05:03:44,728 --> 05:03:45,862
there is a spotlight shined

7548
05:03:45,862 --> 05:03:46,529
what going especially in light

7549
05:03:46,529 --> 05:03:47,163
of the fact that there's so

7550
05:03:47,163 --> 05:03:50,763
much going on in our city

7551
05:03:50,900 --> 05:03:53,670
presently, and I don't think

7552
05:03:53,670 --> 05:03:54,370
we're wasting anybody's time

7553
05:03:54,370 --> 05:03:55,400
by being able to talk about

7554
05:03:55,400 --> 05:03:57,404
projects that are moving

7555
05:04:00,760 --> 05:04:03,246
through the city and to go

7556
05:04:03,246 --> 05:04:03,947
chase information down on a

7557
05:04:03,947 --> 05:04:05,215
web site away from quarterly

7558
05:04:05,215 --> 05:04:06,316
meeting by the economic

7559
05:04:06,316 --> 05:04:08,716
development department to give

7560
05:04:09,252 --> 05:04:11,354
us a slide presentation a high

7561
05:04:11,354 --> 05:04:13,356
level of what's going on is

7562
05:04:13,356 --> 05:04:15,756
what looking for assistance

7563
05:04:16,159 --> 05:04:17,594
are looking for we want talk

7564
05:04:17,594 --> 05:04:19,594
about apartment building

7565
05:04:21,131 --> 05:04:23,300
corner of and going what we're

7566
05:04:23,300 --> 05:04:25,401
going to do about like that

7567
05:04:25,401 --> 05:04:26,236
you love landscaping and said

7568
05:04:26,236 --> 05:04:28,205
that saying and what are we

7569
05:04:28,205 --> 05:04:30,273
going to make sure there's no

7570
05:04:30,273 --> 05:04:31,400
noise and parking issues

7571
05:04:31,400 --> 05:04:31,708
traffic issues and these are

7572
05:04:31,708 --> 05:04:34,108
the kinds of conversations

7573
05:04:37,414 --> 05:04:39,414
everybody I think

7574
05:04:39,483 --> 05:04:40,150
>> we have because the

7575
05:04:40,150 --> 05:04:40,784
administrative process just

7576
05:04:40,784 --> 05:04:43,860
allows him to grease off

7577
05:04:43,860 --> 05:04:45,486
through because legally a

7578
05:04:45,956 --> 05:04:47,900
lull. We have to follow the

7579
05:04:47,900 --> 05:04:48,258
law keeps saying that but that

7580
05:04:48,258 --> 05:04:50,259
doesn't mean we can't good

7581
05:04:50,259 --> 05:04:52,290
health inc discussions as a

7582
05:04:52,290 --> 05:04:54,970
city and as a commission about

7583
05:04:54,970 --> 05:04:57,970
far as taking too much

7584
05:04:57,901 --> 05:04:59,901
friendly wetzel full-time

7585
05:05:00,237 --> 05:05:02,720
workshop every single I don't

7586
05:05:02,720 --> 05:05:02,773
care all here 7 days a week if

7587
05:05:02,773 --> 05:05:04,341
did do it I just think we've

7588
05:05:04,341 --> 05:05:05,275
got to get better at this

7589
05:05:05,275 --> 05:05:08,275
stuff. And we've got more

7590
05:05:08,978 --> 05:05:10,978
transparent inclusive let's

7591
05:05:11,480 --> 05:05:11,748
really do what it is we say

7592
05:05:11,748 --> 05:05:12,415
what we always say oh trying

7593
05:05:12,415 --> 05:05:14,815
to be transparent inclusion

7594
05:05:16,886 --> 05:05:21,860
but then we I mean like we've

7595
05:05:22,125 --> 05:05:25,295
got fix the things that okay

7596
05:05:25,295 --> 05:05:26,329
I'm looking to break laws I'm

7597
05:05:26,329 --> 05:05:27,597
not going serve stamp some

7598
05:05:27,597 --> 05:05:28,265
authority to approve

7599
05:05:28,265 --> 05:05:30,665
processees that are legally

7600
05:05:33,136 --> 05:05:35,720
allowable but. I the right to

7601
05:05:35,720 --> 05:05:36,773
know what's going and talk

7602
05:05:36,773 --> 05:05:38,809
about it before gets approved

7603
05:05:38,809 --> 05:05:39,476
and I love the citizen's staff

7604
05:05:39,476 --> 05:05:40,143
that same right I don't see

7605
05:05:40,143 --> 05:05:42,813
anything wrong with that at

7606
05:05:42,813 --> 05:05:46,413
all I really just don't. Thank

7607
05:05:46,516 --> 05:05:49,516
you thank you. Vice mayor.

7608
05:05:51,755 --> 05:05:52,489
>> I also view my job as a

7609
05:05:52,489 --> 05:05:53,223
full-time job. But I can see a

7610
05:05:53,223 --> 05:05:56,823
lot better ways of spending my

7611
05:05:58,195 --> 05:06:00,430
time. I love you all and I

7612
05:06:00,430 --> 05:06:01,980
love time we spent together

7613
05:06:01,980 --> 05:06:03,498
but frankly rather engaging

7614
05:06:05,435 --> 05:06:06,300
with the community and sitting

7615
05:06:06,300 --> 05:06:06,636
up here talking about

7616
05:06:06,636 --> 05:06:09,360
something that we cannot

7617
05:06:11,741 --> 05:06:14,141
impact think that there's

7618
05:06:15,578 --> 05:06:17,847
something wrong with the uldc

7619
05:06:17,847 --> 05:06:19,847
if commissioners believe.

7620
05:06:22,619 --> 05:06:23,220
Based community input that

7621
05:06:23,220 --> 05:06:24,387
we're putting apartment

7622
05:06:24,387 --> 05:06:26,787
buildings and higher density

7623
05:06:27,390 --> 05:06:28,124
housing in the wrong place.

7624
05:06:28,124 --> 05:06:31,724
Then let's bring back that man

7625
05:06:36,733 --> 05:06:37,867
out. Talk about talk about the

7626
05:06:37,867 --> 05:06:39,870
landscaping and buffer and

7627
05:06:39,870 --> 05:06:41,772
other requirements that go

7628
05:06:41,772 --> 05:06:42,472
along with that type of

7629
05:06:42,472 --> 05:06:44,872
development that's a healthy

7630
05:06:46,643 --> 05:06:47,277
discussion to have. And

7631
05:06:47,277 --> 05:06:49,677
certainly shares with the

7632
05:06:51,548 --> 05:06:53,350
community thought process

7633
05:06:53,350 --> 05:06:56,420
behind zoning some think a lot

7634
05:06:56,420 --> 05:07:01,220
of times we we look at it was

7635
05:07:02,359 --> 05:07:03,560
chapter 3 it's changeup

7636
05:07:03,560 --> 05:07:06,560
chapter 3 was the zoning what

7637
05:07:08,265 --> 05:07:09,499
we often neglect to look as a

7638
05:07:09,499 --> 05:07:10,234
community. It's chapter 4

7639
05:07:10,234 --> 05:07:13,436
which are all the building and

7640
05:07:13,436 --> 05:07:14,380
set back and all of those

7641
05:07:14,380 --> 05:07:14,638
other requirements that

7642
05:07:14,638 --> 05:07:16,638
commissioner stokes was

7643
05:07:17,107 --> 05:07:20,707
talking about. Again I say if

7644
05:07:22,946 --> 05:07:25,849
if we. And you said your cell

7645
05:07:25,849 --> 05:07:28,249
commissioner if got something

7646
05:07:28,652 --> 05:07:31,588
wrong. We need to address we

7647
05:07:31,588 --> 05:07:34,588
don't have to discuss projects

7648
05:07:35,325 --> 05:07:37,527
at a workshop where we can't

7649
05:07:37,527 --> 05:07:39,630
change anything if we suspect

7650
05:07:39,630 --> 05:07:40,297
something is wrong with our

7651
05:07:40,297 --> 05:07:43,297
rules that let's talk about

7652
05:07:46,403 --> 05:07:48,371
the rules. Its educational for

7653
05:07:48,371 --> 05:07:50,674
the community. Let's look from

7654
05:07:50,674 --> 05:07:52,509
a totality not just the zoning

7655
05:07:52,509 --> 05:07:53,760
not just where we're putting

7656
05:07:53,760 --> 05:07:56,760
but one of the design

7657
05:07:57,114 --> 05:08:00,114
requirements for that tie a

7658
05:08:01,251 --> 05:08:02,419
building. What thought process

7659
05:08:02,419 --> 05:08:03,120
went into protecting

7660
05:08:03,120 --> 05:08:05,188
neighborhoods that are in the

7661
05:08:05,188 --> 05:08:06,290
year you're that kind of

7662
05:08:06,290 --> 05:08:08,459
development that is a

7663
05:08:08,459 --> 05:08:10,459
productive healthy

7664
05:08:11,995 --> 05:08:12,696
conversation for this body to

7665
05:08:12,696 --> 05:08:16,296
have and a situation where we

7666
05:08:17,267 --> 05:08:19,303
can effect change other than

7667
05:08:19,303 --> 05:08:19,970
that rather have with a

7668
05:08:19,970 --> 05:08:22,370
resident of this community

7669
05:08:25,442 --> 05:08:26,576
where we can talk about stuff.

7670
05:08:26,576 --> 05:08:28,845
I've got a wind or whatever

7671
05:08:28,845 --> 05:08:29,512
where I can engage with people

7672
05:08:29,512 --> 05:08:30,214
who live here about their

7673
05:08:30,214 --> 05:08:32,160
concerns and hopes and dreams

7674
05:08:32,160 --> 05:08:35,160
for the city. I yield

7675
05:08:35,820 --> 05:08:36,554
commissioner petro.

7676
05:08:36,554 --> 05:08:38,954
>> I think commissioner stokes

7677
05:08:41,558 --> 05:08:42,426
is trying say need the

7678
05:08:42,426 --> 05:08:43,160
approval his trade approval

7679
05:08:43,160 --> 05:08:47,130
back so we be in the situation

7680
05:08:47,130 --> 05:08:50,130
we're in right basically which

7681
05:08:50,867 --> 05:08:51,568
doesn't require us know all

7682
05:08:51,568 --> 05:08:53,968
the administrative staff what

7683
05:08:56,106 --> 05:08:56,774
the stat us.

7684
05:08:56,774 --> 05:08:59,174
>> thank city clerk public

7685
05:09:11,455 --> 05:09:13,257
comment.

7686
05:09:13,257 --> 05:09:13,757
>> I

7687
05:09:13,757 --> 05:09:14,425
>> think with the

7688
05:09:14,425 --> 05:09:15,125
administrative approval, is

7689
05:09:15,125 --> 05:09:17,525
still operating under senate

7690
05:09:19,163 --> 05:09:22,650
bill 7.84. Me plats. But in my

7691
05:09:22,650 --> 05:09:23,267
research I found. But there is

7692
05:09:23,267 --> 05:09:26,267
an exception to that senate

7693
05:09:31,374 --> 05:09:32,750
bill. That says if it's within

7694
05:09:32,750 --> 05:09:32,810
charter county. That there is

7695
05:09:32,810 --> 05:09:35,460
an exception that the county

7696
05:09:35,460 --> 05:09:38,460
charter would prevail over the

7697
05:09:39,683 --> 05:09:40,350
senate bill. So I don't know I

7698
05:09:40,350 --> 05:09:41,385
haven't had a chance yet to

7699
05:09:41,385 --> 05:09:43,621
look at the county's charter.

7700
05:09:43,621 --> 05:09:47,221
But the question is also i

7701
05:09:48,492 --> 05:09:49,226
know I don't see anything in

7702
05:09:49,226 --> 05:09:50,227
our charter. But if if we were

7703
05:09:50,227 --> 05:09:53,227
to put something within to

7704
05:09:54,298 --> 05:09:54,698
address that particular

7705
05:09:54,698 --> 05:09:55,766
exception.

7706
05:09:55,766 --> 05:09:56,467
>> that would be a question

7707
05:09:56,467 --> 05:09:58,369
for the city attorney to look

7708
05:09:58,369 --> 05:10:01,369
into for the commission. But

7709
05:10:02,706 --> 05:10:03,507
in any event. We can never

7710
05:10:03,507 --> 05:10:05,507
really defined administrative

7711
05:10:07,544 --> 05:10:08,679
boundaries because we could

7712
05:10:08,679 --> 05:10:11,790
define minor versus major

7713
05:10:11,682 --> 05:10:12,650
actions structure land

7714
05:10:12,650 --> 05:10:14,151
development regulations. So

7715
05:10:14,151 --> 05:10:16,551
that only explicit minor

7716
05:10:18,210 --> 05:10:18,889
objective tests are handled

7717
05:10:18,889 --> 05:10:19,556
administratively forcing any

7718
05:10:19,556 --> 05:10:21,240
gray areas are subject is

7719
05:10:21,240 --> 05:10:21,625
interpretations back to a

7720
05:10:21,625 --> 05:10:24,250
public vote before the

7721
05:10:26,130 --> 05:10:27,431
commission. Establish strict

7722
05:10:27,431 --> 05:10:28,165
oversight protocols that

7723
05:10:28,165 --> 05:10:30,565
require mandatory staff 3 sons

7724
05:10:32,970 --> 05:10:33,537
to the commission. Appeals we

7725
05:10:33,537 --> 05:10:35,937
can ensure local land

7726
05:10:36,974 --> 05:10:37,875
development codes provide a

7727
05:10:37,875 --> 05:10:38,843
clear pathway for aggrieved

7728
05:10:38,843 --> 05:10:39,410
parties or the commission

7729
05:10:39,410 --> 05:10:41,810
itself to appeal the

7730
05:10:42,580 --> 05:10:43,347
administrative staff

7731
05:10:43,347 --> 05:10:44,480
decisions. So it depends how

7732
05:10:44,480 --> 05:10:47,648
deep you want to get involved

7733
05:10:47,685 --> 05:10:48,385
I mean at one time before the

7734
05:10:48,385 --> 05:10:50,721
rewrite. You know commission

7735
05:10:50,721 --> 05:10:51,388
had a lot more authority in

7736
05:10:51,388 --> 05:10:54,825
the polls. A lot of what's

7737
05:10:54,825 --> 05:10:55,525
going on with these

7738
05:10:55,525 --> 05:10:56,460
developments and then senate

7739
05:10:56,460 --> 05:10:59,460
bill 7.84 came into play and

7740
05:11:00,130 --> 05:11:01,766
then that kind shifted things.

7741
05:11:01,766 --> 05:11:02,433
So it depends on what this

7742
05:11:02,433 --> 05:11:03,660
commission is willing to do

7743
05:11:03,660 --> 05:11:05,236
and how much time you're

7744
05:11:05,236 --> 05:11:07,137
willing to put into it. But

7745
05:11:07,137 --> 05:11:10,408
again if you can put these

7746
05:11:10,408 --> 05:11:12,276
restrictions within there then

7747
05:11:12,276 --> 05:11:15,276
it still give staff the

7748
05:11:15,279 --> 05:11:16,714
authority but they have to

7749
05:11:16,714 --> 05:11:17,681
basically it's limited their

7750
05:11:17,681 --> 05:11:20,810
authority basically is limited

7751
05:11:21,318 --> 05:11:22,152
between the major or minor

7752
05:11:22,152 --> 05:11:22,819
development. They have to let

7753
05:11:22,819 --> 05:11:24,555
you notify on a monthly you

7754
05:11:24,555 --> 05:11:27,791
know so you know what's going

7755
05:11:27,791 --> 05:11:28,425
on then you can determine what

7756
05:11:28,425 --> 05:11:31,425
your procedures in to new

7757
05:11:31,762 --> 05:11:32,396
particles are going to be.

7758
05:11:32,396 --> 05:11:35,396
>> so you know that's my

7759
05:11:48,178 --> 05:11:48,879
edition. Thank you guys, thank

7760
05:11:48,879 --> 05:11:50,481
>> robin vents and a makes a

7761
05:11:50,481 --> 05:11:51,448
lot of sense and that's 20

7762
05:11:51,448 --> 05:11:52,150
years of experience right

7763
05:11:52,150 --> 05:11:55,252
there and to be able to do it

7764
05:11:55,252 --> 05:11:56,587
up the top of her head.

7765
05:11:56,587 --> 05:11:57,755
Amazing. Commissioner langdon

7766
05:11:57,755 --> 05:11:58,856
there's community members

7767
05:11:58,856 --> 05:12:00,891
right here that you can engage

7768
05:12:00,891 --> 05:12:02,493
with them we have also been

7769
05:12:02,493 --> 05:12:03,627
here now for how many hours

7770
05:12:03,627 --> 05:12:06,630
and so for you to say rather

7771
05:12:06,630 --> 05:12:08,332
be somewhere else is that they

7772
05:12:08,332 --> 05:12:10,434
putting once again to say the

7773
05:12:10,434 --> 05:12:11,402
least I really appreciate you

7774
05:12:11,402 --> 05:12:12,690
revealing yourself and how you

7775
05:12:12,690 --> 05:12:15,690
feel about the people that

7776
05:12:17,441 --> 05:12:18,108
actually do show up. Reversing

7777
05:12:18,108 --> 05:12:18,842
the administrative approval

7778
05:12:18,842 --> 05:12:20,778
process to bring these massive

7779
05:12:20,778 --> 05:12:21,411
projects back front of the

7780
05:12:21,411 --> 05:12:24,411
public vote sounds like a

7781
05:12:25,115 --> 05:12:25,916
victory for representation,

7782
05:12:25,916 --> 05:12:28,860
but under florida's strict

7783
05:12:28,860 --> 05:12:29,860
growth management laws and has

7784
05:12:29,860 --> 05:12:30,588
to one 80 shifting a project

7785
05:12:30,588 --> 05:12:31,288
from an administrative track

7786
05:12:31,288 --> 05:12:34,358
to a political track after an

7787
05:12:34,358 --> 05:12:35,426
application is already in play

7788
05:12:35,426 --> 05:12:36,127
as a high-risk gamble that

7789
05:12:36,127 --> 05:12:38,127
invites multi-million dollar

7790
05:12:39,163 --> 05:12:41,640
property right losses. We do

7791
05:12:41,640 --> 05:12:42,333
not need to alter the city

7792
05:12:42,333 --> 05:12:44,733
standard processing tracks to

7793
05:12:46,470 --> 05:12:47,972
win this but we need to the

7794
05:12:47,972 --> 05:12:49,972
the strict unyielding

7795
05:12:51,809 --> 05:12:53,911
environmental applied to any

7796
05:12:53,911 --> 05:12:55,813
processing track. The

7797
05:12:55,813 --> 05:12:59,413
important that can we have is

7798
05:13:00,117 --> 05:13:00,517
immediate and protection

7799
05:13:00,517 --> 05:13:02,517
ordinances.

7800
05:13:02,587 --> 05:13:04,987
>> and the all replacement

7801
05:13:07,257 --> 05:13:08,358
basis.

7802
05:13:08,358 --> 05:13:10,428
>> we have the ability to do

7803
05:13:10,428 --> 05:13:12,196
that still today later on

7804
05:13:12,196 --> 05:13:12,896
still tell you that we have

7805
05:13:12,896 --> 05:13:16,496
the ability to do that today,

7806
05:13:17,501 --> 05:13:19,504
I'm not hearing anyone.

7807
05:13:19,504 --> 05:13:20,738
>> every list I was clear

7808
05:13:20,738 --> 05:13:23,138
parliament every structure for

7809
05:13:23,640 --> 05:13:24,675
for protections it doesn't

7810
05:13:24,675 --> 05:13:27,750
matter an application is

7811
05:13:27,912 --> 05:13:28,646
reviewed by city staff are not

7812
05:13:28,646 --> 05:13:31,646
that this guy was project

7813
05:13:32,550 --> 05:13:35,860
cannot legally less to do

7814
05:13:35,860 --> 05:13:37,486
massive water consumption will

7815
05:13:40,357 --> 05:13:43,357
to 0 harm to shared resources.

7816
05:13:44,328 --> 05:13:46,328
>> utilizing that pending

7817
05:13:47,331 --> 05:13:47,965
doctor and today a 72 for time

7818
05:13:47,965 --> 05:13:50,365
teamers from sneaking end

7819
05:13:51,235 --> 05:13:52,837
where we might be stop

7820
05:13:52,837 --> 05:13:53,537
changing the procedures world

7821
05:13:53,537 --> 05:13:56,537
said the start protecting the

7822
05:13:59,477 --> 05:14:00,578
court. Out pass tomorrow,

7823
05:14:00,578 --> 05:14:02,978
well, protection ordinance and

7824
05:14:05,516 --> 05:14:06,150
the recharge basin and what

7825
05:14:06,150 --> 05:14:06,985
your hope for best parent

7826
05:14:06,985 --> 05:14:09,985
that's sitting on your dress

7827
05:14:14,592 --> 05:14:15,292
is going expire 180 well just

7828
05:14:15,292 --> 05:14:17,395
expired than that one has pay

7829
05:14:17,395 --> 05:14:18,950
for can be used and all of

7830
05:14:18,950 --> 05:14:20,331
these that were asked in your

7831
05:14:20,331 --> 05:14:21,320
right now pretty empty of for

7832
05:14:21,320 --> 05:14:24,320
follow already for about his

7833
05:14:26,637 --> 05:14:28,806
job as you have contract.

7834
05:14:28,806 --> 05:14:31,806
Permits anyone that wants to

7835
05:14:31,842 --> 05:14:33,310
build a hyper always at the

7836
05:14:33,310 --> 05:14:36,910
has been a thorough does not

7837
05:14:37,810 --> 05:14:39,950
apply to the stylus or any

7838
05:14:39,950 --> 05:14:41,850
florida of was written to be

7839
05:14:41,850 --> 05:14:44,685
pretty w's and you guys chose

7840
05:14:47,910 --> 05:14:50,691
not to preemptively use it. So

7841
05:14:56,668 --> 05:15:00,268
you said I'm giving you an

7842
05:15:01,405 --> 05:15:02,106
>> I would give you 3 examples

7843
05:15:02,106 --> 05:15:04,742
of chapter 4 and why you need

7844
05:15:04,742 --> 05:15:05,376
this administrative approval

7845
05:15:05,376 --> 05:15:07,776
process, one property was

7846
05:15:08,413 --> 05:15:09,113
included in the result. 2

7847
05:15:09,113 --> 05:15:11,513
properties were already zoned

7848
05:15:13,384 --> 05:15:14,519
for this before the rezone

7849
05:15:14,519 --> 05:15:17,519
first one is apartment complex

7850
05:15:17,522 --> 05:15:18,222
it's going in the middle of a

7851
05:15:18,222 --> 05:15:18,890
residential area that's been

7852
05:15:18,890 --> 05:15:21,890
rezoned are 3 right off the

7853
05:15:24,596 --> 05:15:26,831
snow will. That snow you all

7854
05:15:26,831 --> 05:15:29,166
know sandy capacity, she's got

7855
05:15:29,166 --> 05:15:29,867
this project right behind her

7856
05:15:29,867 --> 05:15:32,267
everything in chapter 4 that

7857
05:15:32,937 --> 05:15:33,838
she wanted to use for

7858
05:15:33,838 --> 05:15:34,539
protection. She's listening to

7859
05:15:34,539 --> 05:15:35,673
loud jackhammers that got the

7860
05:15:35,673 --> 05:15:39,273
land clear right up to her

7861
05:15:39,511 --> 05:15:40,612
property. So something like

7862
05:15:40,612 --> 05:15:42,514
that, and how it affects the

7863
05:15:42,514 --> 05:15:43,648
neighbors there should have

7864
05:15:43,648 --> 05:15:45,160
been different buffers things

7865
05:15:45,160 --> 05:15:45,683
considered for that the next

7866
05:15:45,683 --> 05:15:47,285
project is the big rv park

7867
05:15:47,285 --> 05:15:48,953
going off a chamberlain right

7868
05:15:48,953 --> 05:15:51,353
north the 75. Is kelly

7869
05:15:54,925 --> 05:15:56,461
burrata. Has got concerns

7870
05:15:56,461 --> 05:15:57,662
about dumping of the sewage

7871
05:15:57,662 --> 05:15:58,362
that's going to be there and

7872
05:15:58,362 --> 05:16:01,732
where the gas is it going to

7873
05:16:01,732 --> 05:16:02,467
affect water chapter 4. I

7874
05:16:02,467 --> 05:16:03,201
don't know if there's anything

7875
05:16:03,201 --> 05:16:04,200
in there for her, but at least

7876
05:16:04,200 --> 05:16:07,200
it should have been considered

7877
05:16:07,138 --> 05:16:08,206
how that's going to affect the

7878
05:16:08,206 --> 05:16:11,806
neighborhood and the 3rd one I

7879
05:16:15,747 --> 05:16:16,381
forgot. For all there's 3rd

7880
05:16:16,381 --> 05:16:17,482
one somewhere that is all

7881
05:16:17,482 --> 05:16:21,820
about the one on sumpter the

7882
05:16:21,485 --> 05:16:22,553
high-rise apartments, randy

7883
05:16:22,553 --> 05:16:24,723
he's got now, he's got

7884
05:16:24,723 --> 05:16:25,390
apartments going right behind

7885
05:16:25,390 --> 05:16:27,659
him parking lights that are

7886
05:16:27,659 --> 05:16:28,827
going to affect this area. So

7887
05:16:28,827 --> 05:16:31,827
those are my examples, thanks.

7888
05:16:37,368 --> 05:16:38,360
Thank you. Angela park.

7889
05:16:38,360 --> 05:16:40,360
>> strongly support agenda

7890
05:16:41,472 --> 05:16:42,140
item 26 dash 1, 0, 2, 2, and

7891
05:16:42,140 --> 05:16:43,575
her and minister within the

7892
05:16:43,575 --> 05:16:44,376
unified land development code

7893
05:16:44,376 --> 05:16:45,900
development decisions can have

7894
05:16:45,900 --> 05:16:45,676
lasting consequences for

7895
05:16:45,676 --> 05:16:46,343
surrounding homeowners

7896
05:16:46,343 --> 05:16:48,343
neighbors, traffic drainage

7897
05:16:48,880 --> 05:16:49,614
utilities, water resources,

7898
05:16:49,614 --> 05:16:52,140
environmental quality and that

7899
05:16:52,917 --> 05:16:53,918
overall character of port,

7900
05:16:53,918 --> 05:16:56,870
those decisions should not

7901
05:16:56,870 --> 05:16:57,880
become effectively automatic

7902
05:16:57,880 --> 05:16:59,880
simply because ministry

7903
05:16:59,857 --> 05:17:00,925
deadline passes mistreated

7904
05:17:00,925 --> 05:17:01,592
them a is important. But

7905
05:17:01,592 --> 05:17:02,961
officials say should never

7906
05:17:02,961 --> 05:17:03,928
come at the expense of

7907
05:17:03,928 --> 05:17:04,962
accountability for the

7908
05:17:04,962 --> 05:17:07,362
public's opportunity to be

7909
05:17:07,999 --> 05:17:08,600
heard the city's uldc states

7910
05:17:08,600 --> 05:17:09,301
it is its purpose is to

7911
05:17:09,301 --> 05:17:09,934
promote public health safety

7912
05:17:09,934 --> 05:17:12,334
and welfare implement the

7913
05:17:13,405 --> 05:17:15,240
comprehensive plan facilitate

7914
05:17:15,240 --> 05:17:16,374
quarterly growth and

7915
05:17:16,374 --> 05:17:17,420
development presidents deserve

7916
05:17:17,420 --> 05:17:18,677
confidence that significant

7917
05:17:18,677 --> 05:17:19,377
development applications

7918
05:17:19,377 --> 05:17:19,977
received meeting for and that

7919
05:17:19,977 --> 05:17:20,512
decision makers remain

7920
05:17:20,512 --> 05:17:22,512
accountable for the

7921
05:17:24,482 --> 05:17:26,217
consequences of those

7922
05:17:26,217 --> 05:17:26,851
decisions. For will cannot can

7923
05:17:26,851 --> 05:17:27,552
undermine confidence and

7924
05:17:27,552 --> 05:17:29,554
potentially allow projects to

7925
05:17:29,554 --> 05:17:30,221
proceed without adequate

7926
05:17:30,221 --> 05:17:30,889
consideration. Impacts that

7927
05:17:30,889 --> 05:17:34,489
MAY not be apparent from a

7928
05:17:34,492 --> 05:17:35,192
checklist or technical of the

7929
05:17:35,192 --> 05:17:35,960
law. I urge the commission to

7930
05:17:35,960 --> 05:17:36,594
reverse the administrative

7931
05:17:36,594 --> 05:17:38,594
approval process require

7932
05:17:38,730 --> 05:17:40,730
permanent action when

7933
05:17:40,732 --> 05:17:42,634
appropriate, particularly for

7934
05:17:42,634 --> 05:17:43,268
applications with potentially

7935
05:17:43,268 --> 05:17:45,268
significant impacts staff

7936
05:17:45,770 --> 05:17:46,304
should have ability to

7937
05:17:46,304 --> 05:17:46,971
thoroughly evaluate

7938
05:17:46,971 --> 05:17:48,873
applications and the public

7939
05:17:48,873 --> 05:17:49,473
should have meaningful notice

7940
05:17:49,473 --> 05:17:50,475
opportunity participate

7941
05:17:50,475 --> 05:17:52,475
decisions could materially

7942
05:17:55,347 --> 05:17:56,800
their community north port is.

7943
05:17:56,800 --> 05:17:56,814
Experiencing tremendous growth

7944
05:17:56,814 --> 05:17:59,316
we should not weaken oversight

7945
05:17:59,316 --> 05:17:59,985
in the name of speed. Please

7946
05:17:59,985 --> 05:18:01,985
support 26 dash 1, 0, 2, 2,

7947
05:18:03,789 --> 05:18:04,490
restore accountability

7948
05:18:04,490 --> 05:18:06,490
transparency and responsible

7949
05:18:08,627 --> 05:18:10,462
development process. So or

7950
05:18:10,462 --> 05:18:11,563
floyd's I fully support the

7951
05:18:11,563 --> 05:18:12,563
return of administrative

7952
05:18:12,563 --> 05:18:14,266
approval to be returned to the

7953
05:18:14,266 --> 05:18:14,966
elected representatives of the

7954
05:18:14,966 --> 05:18:15,633
city the city commission the

7955
05:18:15,633 --> 05:18:16,267
people in the commissioners

7956
05:18:16,267 --> 05:18:19,267
must take our city back.

7957
05:18:21,539 --> 05:18:22,206
David restoration commissioner

7958
05:18:22,206 --> 05:18:22,841
site and proposals must be

7959
05:18:22,841 --> 05:18:25,241
restore what we're left

7960
05:18:27,478 --> 05:18:29,246
with this. Commission of devon

7961
05:18:29,246 --> 05:18:30,215
out thank you for having a

7962
05:18:30,215 --> 05:18:30,882
discussion on administrative

7963
05:18:30,882 --> 05:18:33,282
approval processes in case

7964
05:18:33,851 --> 05:18:34,518
anyone is wondering

7965
05:18:34,518 --> 05:18:35,153
administrative approval is

7966
05:18:35,153 --> 05:18:35,787
granting and 32 the uldc

7967
05:18:35,787 --> 05:18:37,787
administrator or specific

7968
05:18:39,490 --> 05:18:40,158
parts of the uldc the sec has

7969
05:18:40,158 --> 05:18:40,892
designated the director of

7970
05:18:40,892 --> 05:18:43,194
development services for there

7971
05:18:43,194 --> 05:18:44,996
doesn't need to grab those

7972
05:18:44,996 --> 05:18:46,831
approvals. No input from

7973
05:18:46,831 --> 05:18:47,532
commissioner citizens, no

7974
05:18:47,532 --> 05:18:48,166
public checks and balances as

7975
05:18:48,166 --> 05:18:50,401
a reminder staff does not

7976
05:18:50,401 --> 05:18:52,436
answer citizens or to the

7977
05:18:52,436 --> 05:18:53,338
commission. There are various

7978
05:18:53,338 --> 05:18:54,305
sections riddled throughout

7979
05:18:54,305 --> 05:18:55,600
the uldc that allowed ministry

7980
05:18:55,600 --> 05:18:57,542
of approval impasse far more

7981
05:18:57,542 --> 05:18:58,210
than approving project the

7982
05:18:58,210 --> 05:18:58,910
development master concept

7983
05:18:58,910 --> 05:19:02,314
plan is a good place to start

7984
05:19:02,314 --> 05:19:04,248
the mending the u n a another

7985
05:19:04,248 --> 05:19:05,450
area is the section granting

7986
05:19:05,450 --> 05:19:06,840
the hearing officer to approve

7987
05:19:06,840 --> 05:19:08,484
major variances and minor

7988
05:19:09,754 --> 05:19:10,522
variances are approved

7989
05:19:10,522 --> 05:19:11,122
administratively. There to be

7990
05:19:11,122 --> 05:19:13,522
see that allow ministry

7991
05:19:14,226 --> 05:19:14,859
approval to various flavors

7992
05:19:14,859 --> 05:19:15,560
then there's neighborhood

7993
05:19:15,560 --> 05:19:17,960
meetings, yes there but

7994
05:19:17,996 --> 05:19:18,797
nothing happened after that no

7995
05:19:18,797 --> 05:19:19,531
commission involvement, the

7996
05:19:19,531 --> 05:19:22,767
citizens have no place to turn

7997
05:19:22,767 --> 05:19:24,669
to have their voice heard did

7998
05:19:24,669 --> 05:19:25,570
you know project is

7999
05:19:25,570 --> 05:19:26,938
administratively approved

8000
05:19:26,938 --> 05:19:28,600
there's no mechanism to notify

8001
05:19:28,600 --> 05:19:29,774
commission commissioners kept

8002
05:19:29,774 --> 05:19:30,475
in the which means the

8003
05:19:30,475 --> 05:19:32,977
citizens are kept in the dark

8004
05:19:32,977 --> 05:19:34,646
this should be amended I know

8005
05:19:34,646 --> 05:19:35,814
subject like the back of my

8006
05:19:35,814 --> 05:19:36,714
hand I won't bore you with the

8007
05:19:36,714 --> 05:19:37,882
citing various sections of the

8008
05:19:37,882 --> 05:19:38,750
code that permit

8009
05:19:38,750 --> 05:19:39,985
administrative approval,

8010
05:19:39,985 --> 05:19:40,786
however, I'm extending an

8011
05:19:40,786 --> 05:19:41,420
invitation to share my

8012
05:19:41,420 --> 05:19:44,420
knowledge with and have a

8013
05:19:44,789 --> 05:19:45,991
conversation for retail

8014
05:19:45,991 --> 05:19:47,792
hearing from you or anyone who

8015
05:19:47,792 --> 05:19:49,728
wants to learn more on the

8016
05:19:49,728 --> 05:19:50,462
subject commissioners please

8017
05:19:50,462 --> 05:19:51,162
restore commissioner oversight

8018
05:19:51,162 --> 05:19:52,130
please restore there's checks

8019
05:19:52,130 --> 05:19:53,640
and balances please restore

8020
05:19:53,640 --> 05:19:53,765
transparency and the ability

8021
05:19:53,765 --> 05:19:54,900
for commission as citizens to

8022
05:19:54,900 --> 05:19:56,900
purchase.

8023
05:20:02,674 --> 05:20:03,741
Processes before de mer

8024
05:20:03,741 --> 05:20:04,710
commissioners I'm writing as

8025
05:20:04,710 --> 05:20:05,377
PRESIDENT To express my strong

8026
05:20:05,377 --> 05:20:07,777
support for agenda item 26

8027
05:20:10,682 --> 05:20:11,383
dash 1, 0, 2, 2, hi have

8028
05:20:11,383 --> 05:20:12,717
marshaled developments kerry

8029
05:20:12,717 --> 05:20:13,451
multi decade consequences from

8030
05:20:13,451 --> 05:20:14,552
all our particularly regarding

8031
05:20:14,552 --> 05:20:15,253
our water sources and traffic

8032
05:20:15,253 --> 05:20:17,253
infrastructure. The ministry

8033
05:20:19,924 --> 05:20:23,524
of staff signs all so started

8034
05:20:23,762 --> 05:20:24,362
needed for routine technical

8035
05:20:24,362 --> 05:20:25,290
approvals they are not

8036
05:20:25,290 --> 05:20:25,630
equipped to evaluate macro

8037
05:20:25,630 --> 05:20:26,331
level community impacts

8038
05:20:26,331 --> 05:20:28,533
allowing high impact projects

8039
05:20:28,533 --> 05:20:29,133
to public hearings for best

8040
05:20:29,133 --> 05:20:31,133
presidents for raising

8041
05:20:33,400 --> 05:20:34,105
critical questions about water

8042
05:20:34,105 --> 05:20:35,940
conservation. The key strain

8043
05:20:35,940 --> 05:20:37,909
that large industrial utility

8044
05:20:37,909 --> 05:20:39,811
demands placed on our local

8045
05:20:39,811 --> 05:20:40,445
water supply for traffic

8046
05:20:40,445 --> 05:20:41,980
infrastructure increased

8047
05:20:41,980 --> 05:20:42,647
congestion road where and

8048
05:20:42,647 --> 05:20:43,348
safety concerns along major

8049
05:20:43,348 --> 05:20:45,748
corridors like I 75 veterans

8050
05:20:46,752 --> 05:20:48,752
highway hillsboro boulevard

8051
05:20:48,753 --> 05:20:49,755
project just completed toledo

8052
05:20:49,755 --> 05:20:51,756
blade boulevard and us 41

8053
05:20:51,756 --> 05:20:53,725
decisions that impact our

8054
05:20:53,725 --> 05:20:55,927
local water security and daily

8055
05:20:55,927 --> 05:20:56,828
traffic along reversing the

8056
05:20:56,828 --> 05:20:58,229
administrative approval

8057
05:20:58,229 --> 05:20:58,863
process guarantees public

8058
05:20:58,863 --> 05:21:01,232
notice in the short final

8059
05:21:01,232 --> 05:21:02,670
remains with elected leaders

8060
05:21:02,670 --> 05:21:02,700
accountable. So a community

8061
05:21:02,700 --> 05:21:03,268
please vote. Yes on this

8062
05:21:03,268 --> 05:21:05,668
agenda item since all

8063
05:21:07,739 --> 05:21:09,741
happened. Elizabeth last my

8064
05:21:09,741 --> 05:21:13,845
name is last all I thank you

8065
05:21:13,845 --> 05:21:15,480
for your regarding 26 dash 1,

8066
05:21:15,480 --> 05:21:16,181
0, 2, I strongly object to on

8067
05:21:16,181 --> 05:21:16,882
elected staff or city manager

8068
05:21:16,882 --> 05:21:17,549
approving items without full

8069
05:21:17,549 --> 05:21:19,350
disclosure and information

8070
05:21:19,350 --> 05:21:20,652
presented to our

8071
05:21:20,652 --> 05:21:21,953
commissioners. Voted in the

8072
05:21:21,953 --> 05:21:22,554
mission and not the staff of

8073
05:21:22,554 --> 05:21:23,188
the city manager

8074
05:21:23,188 --> 05:21:25,188
administrative staff can

8075
05:21:25,457 --> 05:21:26,524
source facts but it needs to

8076
05:21:26,524 --> 05:21:27,191
biased I'm hopeful that the

8077
05:21:27,191 --> 05:21:30,191
commissioners him we have a

8078
05:21:30,562 --> 05:21:31,262
lot think long and hard about

8079
05:21:31,262 --> 05:21:33,662
where opinion possible facts

8080
05:21:35,433 --> 05:21:36,201
are coming from and what they.

8081
05:21:36,201 --> 05:21:36,869
And that not like the dog pony

8082
05:21:36,869 --> 05:21:39,971
show we percent it from the

8083
05:21:39,971 --> 05:21:41,139
experts on data centers. The

8084
05:21:41,139 --> 05:21:42,207
first question should always

8085
05:21:42,207 --> 05:21:43,740
be is it really in the best

8086
05:21:43,740 --> 05:21:43,842
interest of our residents and

8087
05:21:43,842 --> 05:21:44,509
our city everyone has a

8088
05:21:44,509 --> 05:21:46,909
background in life history

8089
05:21:48,580 --> 05:21:49,414
before being employed could it

8090
05:21:49,414 --> 05:21:50,215
be higher some productive

8091
05:21:50,215 --> 05:21:50,882
people in our city management

8092
05:21:50,882 --> 05:21:52,551
to screen the thoughts and

8093
05:21:52,551 --> 05:21:53,418
ideas in favor of building a

8094
05:21:53,418 --> 05:21:54,850
data center. I understand that

8095
05:21:54,850 --> 05:21:57,850
we want more commercial and

8096
05:21:57,880 --> 05:21:58,457
that we need more revenue

8097
05:21:58,457 --> 05:22:00,258
maybe a nice designated area

8098
05:22:00,258 --> 05:22:01,192
for park like many downtown

8099
05:22:01,192 --> 05:22:01,760
development area where

8100
05:22:01,760 --> 05:22:02,427
families gather with

8101
05:22:02,427 --> 05:22:04,427
restaurants shopping bakery

8102
05:22:06,298 --> 05:22:08,133
post-op ixic cetera the seems

8103
05:22:08,133 --> 05:22:08,800
to have a lot of open land

8104
05:22:08,800 --> 05:22:09,601
beside the trail. I believe

8105
05:22:09,601 --> 05:22:10,636
the trail will be used more if

8106
05:22:10,636 --> 05:22:13,360
it had some amenities,

8107
05:22:14,740 --> 05:22:15,908
especially restrooms I was

8108
05:22:15,908 --> 05:22:16,575
taking talking to 3 months

8109
05:22:16,575 --> 05:22:17,275
pushing stores that have to

8110
05:22:17,275 --> 05:22:20,275
cut their lives short because

8111
05:22:20,679 --> 05:22:22,414
restroom. She is he out there

8112
05:22:22,414 --> 05:22:24,582
and the closest porta potty is

8113
05:22:24,582 --> 05:22:25,150
2.5 miles from the trailhead

8114
05:22:25,150 --> 05:22:25,984
women are comfortable

8115
05:22:25,984 --> 05:22:29,584
squatting in the woods to area

8116
05:22:29,721 --> 05:22:30,889
seems perfect to build a since

8117
05:22:30,889 --> 05:22:32,724
the trail and the land is

8118
05:22:32,724 --> 05:22:34,526
already there MAY be good bike

8119
05:22:34,526 --> 05:22:36,594
trail and loveland ohio, it's

8120
05:22:36,594 --> 05:22:37,663
70 miles long connects many

8121
05:22:37,663 --> 05:22:39,297
small towns with restaurants

8122
05:22:39,297 --> 05:22:39,964
and amenities along the way it

8123
05:22:39,964 --> 05:22:40,698
is extremely popular all

8124
05:22:40,698 --> 05:22:43,698
attended the legacy trails are

8125
05:22:45,700 --> 05:22:46,905
there at some amenities.

8126
05:22:46,905 --> 05:22:47,605
>> mayor commissioners a port

8127
05:22:47,605 --> 05:22:48,307
commissioner steps request to

8128
05:22:48,307 --> 05:22:49,410
reconsider our first portions

8129
05:22:49,410 --> 05:22:51,441
of the administrative approval

8130
05:22:52,911 --> 05:22:54,120
process within the ld safe.

8131
05:22:54,120 --> 05:22:55,113
The eu rely has been in my

8132
05:22:55,113 --> 05:22:57,513
opinion and more importantly

8133
05:22:58,820 --> 05:22:58,717
shifted too much consequential

8134
05:22:58,717 --> 05:22:59,852
decision-making away from

8135
05:22:59,852 --> 05:23:00,852
public bodies and elected

8136
05:23:00,852 --> 05:23:02,870
officials and then to an

8137
05:23:02,870 --> 05:23:02,855
administrative process with

8138
05:23:02,855 --> 05:23:03,555
insufficient oversight and

8139
05:23:03,555 --> 05:23:04,189
accountability administrative

8140
05:23:04,189 --> 05:23:06,589
approval makes sense for

8141
05:23:07,359 --> 05:23:09,270
routine minister all matters

8142
05:23:09,270 --> 05:23:10,195
where an applicant either need

8143
05:23:10,195 --> 05:23:10,896
to clearly establish

8144
05:23:10,896 --> 05:23:12,164
requirements not but when a

8145
05:23:12,164 --> 05:23:12,864
decision requires

8146
05:23:12,864 --> 05:23:14,864
interpretation or discretion

8147
05:23:15,233 --> 05:23:16,935
effects surrounding

8148
05:23:16,935 --> 05:23:18,236
neighborhoods. Impacts

8149
05:23:18,236 --> 05:23:19,137
infrastructure influences, the

8150
05:23:19,137 --> 05:23:21,600
future character a city it

8151
05:23:21,600 --> 05:23:21,673
deserves public scrutiny

8152
05:23:21,673 --> 05:23:22,374
efficiency is important but

8153
05:23:22,374 --> 05:23:24,576
efficiency can not become an

8154
05:23:24,576 --> 05:23:25,677
excuse for nathan

8155
05:23:25,677 --> 05:23:26,711
transparency. PRESIDENT Elect

8156
05:23:26,711 --> 05:23:28,380
commissioners to make

8157
05:23:28,380 --> 05:23:29,481
difficult decisions about the

8158
05:23:29,481 --> 05:23:30,782
direction of north port we do

8159
05:23:30,782 --> 05:23:31,516
not elect staff that is not

8160
05:23:31,516 --> 05:23:32,217
criticism of staff does have a

8161
05:23:32,217 --> 05:23:34,217
representative government is

8162
05:23:35,754 --> 05:23:37,923
supposed to work consequential

8163
05:23:37,923 --> 05:23:38,556
development decisions can be

8164
05:23:38,556 --> 05:23:39,825
approved administratively

8165
05:23:39,825 --> 05:23:41,760
residents have MAY not know

8166
05:23:41,760 --> 05:23:42,494
what is happening until I

8167
05:23:42,494 --> 05:23:43,228
discussed decision has already

8168
05:23:43,228 --> 05:23:43,962
been made at that point public

8169
05:23:43,962 --> 05:23:45,962
participation becomes reaction

8170
05:23:47,265 --> 05:23:47,966
rather representation. Parties

8171
05:23:47,966 --> 05:23:49,966
predictable development goals

8172
05:23:50,101 --> 05:23:51,870
and developers deserve

8173
05:23:51,870 --> 05:23:53,105
certainty. But predictability

8174
05:23:53,105 --> 05:23:54,139
accountability are not

8175
05:23:54,139 --> 05:23:55,700
mutually exclusive. The

8176
05:23:55,700 --> 05:23:55,741
commission should drop their

8177
05:23:55,741 --> 05:23:58,741
live routine decision based on

8178
05:23:59,100 --> 05:24:01,313
objective standards can remain

8179
05:24:01,313 --> 05:24:03,115
administrative decisions about

8180
05:24:03,115 --> 05:24:04,115
significant discretion

8181
05:24:04,115 --> 05:24:04,950
interpretation or community

8182
05:24:04,950 --> 05:24:06,151
and actually receive

8183
05:24:06,151 --> 05:24:08,200
transparent public review and

8184
05:24:08,200 --> 05:24:09,354
appropriate oversight you have

8185
05:24:09,354 --> 05:24:11,754
station sponsored lee it

8186
05:24:12,992 --> 05:24:13,892
should not become a mechanism

8187
05:24:13,892 --> 05:24:14,493
insulting insulating

8188
05:24:14,493 --> 05:24:15,393
consequential land-use

8189
05:24:15,393 --> 05:24:16,127
decisions from the residents

8190
05:24:16,127 --> 05:24:17,960
who must live with them my

8191
05:24:17,960 --> 05:24:20,960
sport action today to restore

8192
05:24:20,999 --> 05:24:21,667
that accountability. Just us

8193
05:24:21,667 --> 05:24:24,670
poor city commission resort

8194
05:24:25,103 --> 05:24:26,571
reversing staff approval on

8195
05:24:26,571 --> 05:24:28,206
items this line responsibility

8196
05:24:28,206 --> 05:24:28,874
has already shown its ugly

8197
05:24:28,874 --> 05:24:29,508
head. Us commissioners have

8198
05:24:29,508 --> 05:24:30,175
lost all ability to know

8199
05:24:30,175 --> 05:24:32,210
what's going because staff

8200
05:24:32,210 --> 05:24:34,279
come back other way around

8201
05:24:34,279 --> 05:24:35,114
you. It was sad to hear

8202
05:24:35,114 --> 05:24:36,248
commissioner like this stance

8203
05:24:36,248 --> 05:24:36,915
in previous meeting on the

8204
05:24:36,915 --> 05:24:37,649
subject hopefully she will

8205
05:24:37,649 --> 05:24:38,317
remember that citizens elected

8206
05:24:38,317 --> 05:24:41,317
her to have some oversight

8207
05:24:43,322 --> 05:24:44,656
ability and not just to be to

8208
05:24:44,656 --> 05:24:47,560
city staff christina's I

8209
05:24:47,493 --> 05:24:48,160
support the reverse off strait

8210
05:24:48,160 --> 05:24:50,463
approval process within the

8211
05:24:50,463 --> 05:24:51,163
uvalde say with the current

8212
05:24:51,163 --> 05:24:51,797
topic, a paper scaled centers

8213
05:24:51,797 --> 05:24:52,498
there have been instances

8214
05:24:52,498 --> 05:24:54,333
across the nation where they

8215
05:24:54,333 --> 05:24:56,268
have about a previous

8216
05:24:56,268 --> 05:24:56,969
administrative approval

8217
05:24:56,969 --> 05:24:58,170
process without oversight by

8218
05:24:58,170 --> 05:25:00,205
the commission which is

8219
05:25:00,205 --> 05:25:02,740
incredibly alarming a prime

8220
05:25:02,740 --> 05:25:02,808
example of certain previous

8221
05:25:02,808 --> 05:25:03,508
commissioner warned why it was

8222
05:25:03,508 --> 05:25:05,911
a terrible idea to begin with

8223
05:25:05,911 --> 05:25:06,878
and have voted against it. I

8224
05:25:06,878 --> 05:25:08,713
appreciate commissioner starts

8225
05:25:08,713 --> 05:25:10,820
for adding this item after

8226
05:25:10,820 --> 05:25:11,416
realizing. That's better late

8227
05:25:11,416 --> 05:25:12,118
than never to spy actually

8228
05:25:12,118 --> 05:25:14,954
voting in favor of previously

8229
05:25:14,954 --> 05:25:15,688
perhaps administrative

8230
05:25:15,688 --> 05:25:18,190
approval still we utilize, but

8231
05:25:18,190 --> 05:25:21,190
there must be clearly defined

8232
05:25:21,994 --> 05:25:24,330
specials that limit what can

8233
05:25:24,330 --> 05:25:25,431
this alternative alternate or

8234
05:25:25,431 --> 05:25:27,132
even I'm just an average

8235
05:25:27,132 --> 05:25:27,732
citizen, I'm not familiar with

8236
05:25:27,732 --> 05:25:29,340
the law however, when I

8237
05:25:29,340 --> 05:25:30,202
learned that our north port

8238
05:25:30,202 --> 05:25:32,137
commissioner secretly

8239
05:25:32,137 --> 05:25:32,704
reside north port and fletcher

8240
05:25:32,704 --> 05:25:34,306
sign a non-disclosure

8241
05:25:34,306 --> 05:25:34,973
agreement to keep residents in

8242
05:25:34,973 --> 05:25:35,607
the dark about future plans

8243
05:25:35,607 --> 05:25:38,977
for north for rest and I

8244
05:25:38,977 --> 05:25:40,912
realized that of our past

8245
05:25:40,912 --> 05:25:42,915
commissioners. How about that

8246
05:25:42,915 --> 05:25:43,582
have a mess we're with a

8247
05:25:43,582 --> 05:25:44,150
potential data center is a

8248
05:25:44,150 --> 05:25:44,750
direct result of your

8249
05:25:44,750 --> 05:25:45,417
administrative approval

8250
05:25:45,417 --> 05:25:49,170
process and it needs to be

8251
05:25:51,791 --> 05:25:52,491
reversed. Look I support that

8252
05:25:52,491 --> 05:25:53,559
we're seeing a modest rate of

8253
05:25:53,559 --> 05:25:54,559
approval process major

8254
05:25:54,559 --> 05:25:55,561
development decisions should

8255
05:25:55,561 --> 05:25:56,195
not be having behind the

8256
05:25:56,195 --> 05:25:57,896
scenes without residents

8257
05:25:57,896 --> 05:25:58,898
having a chance to know what

8258
05:25:58,898 --> 05:26:00,865
is being proposed and speak up

8259
05:26:00,865 --> 05:26:02,534
about it if you project can

8260
05:26:02,534 --> 05:26:03,101
significantly impact our

8261
05:26:03,101 --> 05:26:03,803
neighborhoods traffic

8262
05:26:03,803 --> 05:26:06,203
infrastructure or quality of

8263
05:26:06,238 --> 05:26:06,905
life should go through a

8264
05:26:06,905 --> 05:26:07,573
public process. North korea

8265
05:26:07,573 --> 05:26:10,750
has grown too quickly to be

8266
05:26:10,750 --> 05:26:10,676
removing public oversight from

8267
05:26:10,676 --> 05:26:11,410
development decisions.

8268
05:26:11,410 --> 05:26:13,410
Residents deserve transparency

8269
05:26:16,815 --> 05:26:17,749
and a voice for these projects

8270
05:26:17,749 --> 05:26:18,417
this needs to be reversed a

8271
05:26:18,417 --> 05:26:21,417
staff member should not be

8272
05:26:21,520 --> 05:26:23,920
allowed provide to patients.

8273
05:26:24,289 --> 05:26:27,259
Tell us we must a highly

8274
05:26:27,259 --> 05:26:28,527
critical item 26 dash 1, 0, 2,

8275
05:26:28,527 --> 05:26:29,600
2 regarding the discussion to

8276
05:26:29,600 --> 05:26:29,662
resourced reversed

8277
05:26:29,662 --> 05:26:31,662
administrative approval

8278
05:26:32,631 --> 05:26:34,796
process within our uldc

8279
05:26:34,796 --> 05:26:34,959
russell sounds like it could

8280
05:26:34,959 --> 05:26:35,634
bring back public hearing

8281
05:26:35,634 --> 05:26:36,935
simply having a discussion on

8282
05:26:36,935 --> 05:26:39,400
this item exposes a deeply

8283
05:26:39,400 --> 05:26:40,139
flawed system. The fact that

8284
05:26:40,139 --> 05:26:40,873
the city a lot of ministry of

8285
05:26:40,873 --> 05:26:43,142
approval in the first place is

8286
05:26:43,142 --> 05:26:44,977
a direct insult to the

8287
05:26:44,977 --> 05:26:46,780
community magistrate of

8288
05:26:46,780 --> 05:26:48,470
approval access a massive

8289
05:26:48,470 --> 05:26:49,114
loophole shifting the power to

8290
05:26:49,114 --> 05:26:49,849
greenlight high impact

8291
05:26:49,849 --> 05:26:52,849
developments out of the public

8292
05:26:53,319 --> 05:26:56,155
and handling it directly to on

8293
05:26:56,155 --> 05:26:58,190
a lot of city neighborhood

8294
05:26:58,190 --> 05:27:00,590
offering industrial commercial

8295
05:27:00,590 --> 05:27:02,940
projects like predatory tech

8296
05:27:02,940 --> 05:27:03,295
development to public scrutiny

8297
05:27:03,295 --> 05:27:04,296
commission any neighborhood

8298
05:27:04,296 --> 05:27:05,531
notification we cannot settle

8299
05:27:05,531 --> 05:27:08,531
for open-ended discussion or a

8300
05:27:08,601 --> 05:27:09,703
watered down compromise that

8301
05:27:09,703 --> 05:27:12,405
now it reversal or a temporary

8302
05:27:12,405 --> 05:27:13,105
fix isn't enough protect our

8303
05:27:13,105 --> 05:27:13,638
city's future. Our community

8304
05:27:13,638 --> 05:27:15,638
to mask absolutely

8305
05:27:16,509 --> 05:27:18,411
accountability every single

8306
05:27:18,411 --> 05:27:19,512
land-use choice. Our

8307
05:27:19,512 --> 05:27:21,146
neighborhoods threatens our

8308
05:27:21,146 --> 05:27:21,814
natural resources are creates

8309
05:27:21,814 --> 05:27:24,214
24 7 noise and utility for

8310
05:27:24,283 --> 05:27:26,952
must face a mandatory public

8311
05:27:26,952 --> 05:27:28,253
hearing elected leaders must

8312
05:27:28,253 --> 05:27:31,323
have to PRESIDENT The eye high

8313
05:27:31,323 --> 05:27:31,990
city staff purples but the

8314
05:27:31,990 --> 05:27:32,692
city commission that we see

8315
05:27:32,692 --> 05:27:34,692
through administrative proper

8316
05:27:38,730 --> 05:27:39,365
staffing. We demand for

8317
05:27:39,365 --> 05:27:39,999
permanent reversal of all

8318
05:27:39,999 --> 05:27:40,566
MISTER Ensure a complete

8319
05:27:40,566 --> 05:27:42,566
public transparency.

8320
05:27:45,671 --> 05:27:47,673
Demartino good morning again

8321
05:27:47,673 --> 05:27:48,807
commissioners my name is sam,

8322
05:27:48,807 --> 05:27:49,709
I'm support of this reversal

8323
05:27:49,709 --> 05:27:50,376
administrative approval rights

8324
05:27:50,376 --> 05:27:51,430
that has been given to the

8325
05:27:51,430 --> 05:27:51,743
city manager these types of

8326
05:27:51,743 --> 05:27:55,800
decisions should be made as a

8327
05:27:55,800 --> 05:27:57,480
group. Thank you. Stacey

8328
05:27:58,250 --> 05:27:59,785
mentioned we need ever process

8329
05:27:59,785 --> 05:28:02,210
within the unified land

8330
05:28:02,210 --> 05:28:02,822
development code is that it is

8331
05:28:02,822 --> 05:28:03,456
on acceptable have random

8332
05:28:03,456 --> 05:28:04,290
administrative employees

8333
05:28:04,290 --> 05:28:04,924
making major decisions that

8334
05:28:04,924 --> 05:28:07,324
can seriously affect the

8335
05:28:07,893 --> 05:28:08,627
last north port resident, the

8336
05:28:08,627 --> 05:28:09,261
citizens let the commissioners

8337
05:28:09,261 --> 05:28:11,330
to represent them and the

8338
05:28:11,330 --> 05:28:11,897
commissioner should approve it

8339
05:28:11,897 --> 05:28:13,897
actually see requests

8340
05:28:18,270 --> 05:28:21,270
accordingly and that's all I

8341
05:28:22,775 --> 05:28:23,420
>> request a motion to make it

8342
05:28:23,420 --> 05:28:23,676
go.

8343
05:28:23,676 --> 05:28:24,410
>> I make a motion direct

8344
05:28:24,410 --> 05:28:28,100
staff to draft an ordinance to

8345
05:28:30,416 --> 05:28:32,385
bring back. To bring all

8346
05:28:32,385 --> 05:28:34,319
commercial retail and

8347
05:28:34,319 --> 05:28:35,420
multifamily projects before

8348
05:28:35,420 --> 05:28:36,154
the city commission monthly

8349
05:28:36,154 --> 05:28:38,554
basis prior any administrative

8350
05:28:40,359 --> 05:28:41,260
from pro bowl.

8351
05:28:41,260 --> 05:28:43,261
>> motion on the floor made

8352
05:28:43,261 --> 05:28:46,261
commissioner would you like to

8353
05:28:53,506 --> 05:28:54,207
read it back please. Also in

8354
05:28:54,207 --> 05:28:57,207
>> direct the city manager to

8355
05:28:58,810 --> 05:29:00,813
draft ordinance to bring. All

8356
05:29:00,813 --> 05:29:01,413
commercial retail and

8357
05:29:01,413 --> 05:29:02,115
multifamily projects to

8358
05:29:02,115 --> 05:29:02,782
commission on a monthly basis

8359
05:29:02,782 --> 05:29:05,182
prior to any administrative

8360
05:29:05,852 --> 05:29:07,520
approval.

8361
05:29:07,520 --> 05:29:08,421
>> and that motion was paying

8362
05:29:08,421 --> 05:29:09,540
my commissioner stoke seconded

8363
05:29:09,540 --> 05:29:11,454
by commissioner deval any

8364
05:29:27,873 --> 05:29:30,273
discussion. Not. Let's and

8365
05:29:30,742 --> 05:29:33,742
that passes 4 with vice mayor

8366
05:29:36,348 --> 05:29:37,160
dissenting vice reason you.

8367
05:29:37,160 --> 05:29:37,550
>> to file a public comment

8368
05:29:37,550 --> 05:29:39,550
city clerk.

8369
05:29:50,930 --> 05:29:54,530
>> I again that's the read my

8370
05:29:56,602 --> 05:29:58,103
handwriting.

8371
05:29:58,103 --> 05:29:58,805
>> just one of the state these

8372
05:29:58,805 --> 05:30:02,405
last couple weeks that a lot

8373
05:30:03,420 --> 05:30:04,277
lot of public comment come up.

8374
05:30:04,277 --> 05:30:04,944
And make very educated and

8375
05:30:04,944 --> 05:30:07,344
informative comments and I

8376
05:30:07,346 --> 05:30:10,946
just wanted to speak on that

8377
05:30:11,284 --> 05:30:11,984
because public comment why we

8378
05:30:11,984 --> 05:30:14,419
do it. We don't do it because

8379
05:30:14,419 --> 05:30:15,388
we have nothing else better to

8380
05:30:15,388 --> 05:30:16,189
some of us have health issues

8381
05:30:16,189 --> 05:30:16,889
that we're dealing with but we

8382
05:30:16,889 --> 05:30:19,758
make it here because we care

8383
05:30:19,758 --> 05:30:20,393
about the city. We've been

8384
05:30:20,393 --> 05:30:22,793
called haters we've been

8385
05:30:23,763 --> 05:30:25,265
called the vocal minority for

8386
05:30:25,265 --> 05:30:26,650
trying to speak up because

8387
05:30:26,650 --> 05:30:26,932
that's the other side of the

8388
05:30:26,932 --> 05:30:29,932
coin there's one side there's

8389
05:30:31,337 --> 05:30:34,306
another side. So. We're just

8390
05:30:34,306 --> 05:30:34,907
not speaking to here and still

8391
05:30:34,907 --> 05:30:35,875
speaks we've spoken on

8392
05:30:35,875 --> 05:30:36,776
projects that affect their

8393
05:30:36,776 --> 05:30:39,176
health our health safety

8394
05:30:40,446 --> 05:30:41,113
welfare and our way of life.

8395
05:30:41,113 --> 05:30:43,816
You know we've been here on

8396
05:30:43,816 --> 05:30:44,416
the toledo 3.20 project will

8397
05:30:44,416 --> 05:30:47,287
be a residence that got

8398
05:30:47,287 --> 05:30:48,321
together and got the

8399
05:30:48,321 --> 05:30:50,523
pocatello. The residents that

8400
05:30:50,523 --> 05:30:51,424
were on the can bill for

8401
05:30:51,424 --> 05:30:53,259
apartments coming there what

8402
05:30:53,259 --> 05:30:53,960
haven and of course

8403
05:30:53,960 --> 05:30:57,363
warm mineral springs a lot of

8404
05:30:57,363 --> 05:30:59,465
residents came out for that.

8405
05:30:59,465 --> 05:31:00,666
So I've already giving you the

8406
05:31:00,666 --> 05:31:01,667
cracked flows downstream

8407
05:31:01,667 --> 05:31:03,336
speech I've already given you

8408
05:31:03,336 --> 05:31:04,700
the compromise speech and I've

8409
05:31:04,700 --> 05:31:04,737
already given the work

8410
05:31:04,737 --> 05:31:05,304
together speech so now it's

8411
05:31:05,304 --> 05:31:06,500
time to listen to the

8412
05:31:06,500 --> 05:31:08,107
residents and now working.

8413
05:31:08,107 --> 05:31:11,107
Yeah susan thank you. Thank

8414
05:31:17,490 --> 05:31:18,417
you.

8415
05:31:18,417 --> 05:31:19,251
>> my name is samuel chirping

8416
05:31:19,251 --> 05:31:19,952
and this is dedicated to every

8417
05:31:19,952 --> 05:31:22,952
single resident the state of

8418
05:31:25,925 --> 05:31:26,593
florida. Everyone. When our

8419
05:31:26,593 --> 05:31:27,260
writer stand at the podium

8420
05:31:27,260 --> 05:31:29,428
people look at me and asked

8421
05:31:29,428 --> 05:31:33,628
her is this guy where is the

8422
05:31:34,367 --> 05:31:35,101
what angle. Assume I represent

8423
05:31:35,101 --> 05:31:36,769
a paid organization or hidden

8424
05:31:36,769 --> 05:31:39,169
political agenda. They are

8425
05:31:40,940 --> 05:31:42,709
around I'm just one guy, I'm a

8426
05:31:42,709 --> 05:31:43,810
sick guy who is standing here

8427
05:31:43,810 --> 05:31:45,645
today because I live the

8428
05:31:45,645 --> 05:31:46,379
absolute nightmare of

8429
05:31:46,379 --> 05:31:49,379
florida's water crisis and I'm

8430
05:31:49,716 --> 05:31:52,851
still living at right now. And

8431
05:31:52,851 --> 05:31:53,753
the summer of 2018 the water

8432
05:31:53,753 --> 05:31:54,988
in the state poison my home, I

8433
05:31:54,988 --> 05:31:55,588
felt so violently ill that my

8434
05:31:55,588 --> 05:31:57,988
body deteriorated to a

8435
05:31:58,991 --> 05:32:00,994
skeletal 90 pounds. I was

8436
05:32:00,994 --> 05:32:02,280
paralyzed on my right side, my

8437
05:32:02,280 --> 05:32:05,280
arm and leg completely useless

8438
05:32:05,980 --> 05:32:06,980
shaking like I had

8439
05:32:06,980 --> 05:32:06,899
parkinson's. Well I was

8440
05:32:06,899 --> 05:32:09,803
trapped in my own felling body

8441
05:32:09,803 --> 05:32:10,436
a wave of destruction hit my

8442
05:32:10,436 --> 05:32:12,338
family. My mother-in-law

8443
05:32:12,338 --> 05:32:13,500
wilson's pass suffered a

8444
05:32:13,500 --> 05:32:15,405
massive stroke, losing the

8445
05:32:15,442 --> 05:32:16,142
lining of her intestines

8446
05:32:16,142 --> 05:32:19,142
people are being consumed by

8447
05:32:20,213 --> 05:32:22,182
alzheimer's and dementia. I

8448
05:32:22,182 --> 05:32:24,283
watch my spouse up in icu

8449
05:32:24,283 --> 05:32:26,152
during separate times once

8450
05:32:26,152 --> 05:32:27,860
because I thought it was brain

8451
05:32:27,860 --> 05:32:28,654
cancer and another time

8452
05:32:28,654 --> 05:32:29,321
because of fluid retention was

8453
05:32:29,321 --> 05:32:29,989
so severe the body blew up

8454
05:32:29,989 --> 05:32:33,293
like a blur and cutting off

8455
05:32:33,293 --> 05:32:35,195
the circulation. And the

8456
05:32:35,195 --> 05:32:37,229
middle of all of that has my

8457
05:32:37,229 --> 05:32:38,364
dog started dying

8458
05:32:38,364 --> 05:32:39,980
consecutively week after week

8459
05:32:39,980 --> 05:32:42,698
one would die in 2 weeks later

8460
05:32:42,736 --> 05:32:45,739
the next one would collapse. I

8461
05:32:45,739 --> 05:32:46,372
for help my then county

8462
05:32:46,372 --> 05:32:47,473
commissioner in charlotte

8463
05:32:47,473 --> 05:32:48,107
county chris constance

8464
05:32:48,107 --> 05:32:50,107
completely stonewalled he

8465
05:32:52,479 --> 05:32:54,180
refused to work at me. Talk to

8466
05:32:54,180 --> 05:32:57,180
me knowledge my separate. My

8467
05:32:58,384 --> 05:33:01,321
family existed. It was slap in

8468
05:33:01,321 --> 05:33:03,355
the face, but the circle

8469
05:33:03,355 --> 05:33:05,391
always turns this year the

8470
05:33:05,391 --> 05:33:06,250
spelling to him out of office

8471
05:33:06,250 --> 05:33:08,261
and replaced it with john

8472
05:33:08,261 --> 05:33:09,228
fleming and I want every

8473
05:33:09,228 --> 05:33:11,297
commissioner in the state to

8474
05:33:11,297 --> 05:33:12,398
hear that name and learn the

8475
05:33:12,398 --> 05:33:13,199
lesson with the citizen comes

8476
05:33:13,199 --> 05:33:16,799
to crying out for their like

8477
05:33:16,836 --> 05:33:17,670
you them in the eye and you're

8478
05:33:17,670 --> 05:33:18,404
listen because a public record

8479
05:33:18,404 --> 05:33:19,380
is part of it and the voters

8480
05:33:19,380 --> 05:33:21,438
will eventually clear the

8481
05:33:23,676 --> 05:33:24,277
room. To day I carry

8482
05:33:24,277 --> 05:33:26,277
department damage that

8483
05:33:27,714 --> 05:33:29,149
poisoning caused me every

8484
05:33:29,149 --> 05:33:29,849
single day the moment, I knew

8485
05:33:29,849 --> 05:33:30,550
the middle I face severe

8486
05:33:30,550 --> 05:33:32,519
sickness and take specialize

8487
05:33:32,519 --> 05:33:34,620
medication. So I haven't eaten

8488
05:33:34,620 --> 05:33:38,220
in 6 hours. Just so I could

8489
05:33:40,260 --> 05:33:40,727
get to it I spent most of my

8490
05:33:40,727 --> 05:33:41,394
days confined to a chair, my

8491
05:33:41,394 --> 05:33:44,994
body is broken, but they do

8492
05:33:45,431 --> 05:33:46,165
better to my still works when

8493
05:33:46,165 --> 05:33:49,101
you reverse a second chair all

8494
05:33:49,101 --> 05:33:49,736
day use your brain to to

8495
05:33:49,736 --> 05:33:52,736
research and the track is

8496
05:33:53,973 --> 05:33:56,176
what's happening to our state

8497
05:33:56,176 --> 05:33:57,110
I was doubt, also from aging

8498
05:33:57,110 --> 05:33:59,110
infrastructure, spend copious

8499
05:33:59,779 --> 05:34:00,780
amounts of toxic herbicides

8500
05:34:00,780 --> 05:34:03,449
and completely fell to test

8501
05:34:03,449 --> 05:34:06,452
water for heavy metals and p f

8502
05:34:06,452 --> 05:34:10,390
a s and right now they want to

8503
05:34:10,390 --> 05:34:11,223
quietly while killer mike the

8504
05:34:11,223 --> 05:34:12,580
reactors a resource to firing

8505
05:34:12,580 --> 05:34:12,758
hyperscale data center

8506
05:34:12,758 --> 05:34:13,459
starting to drain millions of

8507
05:34:13,459 --> 05:34:16,459
gallons from opera for every

8508
05:34:16,462 --> 05:34:20,620
single day. I don't speak for

8509
05:34:20,366 --> 05:34:20,900
has been from the chair.

8510
05:34:20,900 --> 05:34:23,202
>> you have have my

8511
05:34:23,202 --> 05:34:26,202
condolences sir. I'm still a

8512
05:34:27,407 --> 05:34:29,407
lot things

8513
05:34:29,676 --> 05:34:31,676
>> good morning commissioners

8514
05:34:32,612 --> 05:34:33,245
we the citizens of and that

8515
05:34:33,245 --> 05:34:34,514
MAY be addressed and that

8516
05:34:34,514 --> 05:34:35,449
meant a permanent wellfield

8517
05:34:35,449 --> 05:34:36,449
protection ordinances right

8518
05:34:36,449 --> 05:34:37,783
directly into our local land

8519
05:34:37,783 --> 05:34:39,519
development regulations on the

8520
05:34:39,519 --> 05:34:40,220
florida senate bill 4, 8, 4,

8521
05:34:40,220 --> 05:34:43,820
we're and then the strait of

8522
05:34:44,190 --> 05:34:45,910
delays 12 months study task

8523
05:34:45,910 --> 05:34:46,226
force are legally risky

8524
05:34:46,226 --> 05:34:46,926
moratoriums that trigger

8525
05:34:46,926 --> 05:34:47,594
multimillion-dollar developer

8526
05:34:47,594 --> 05:34:49,994
lawsuits under the judicial

8527
05:34:50,497 --> 05:34:53,497
pending ordinance top and you

8528
05:34:53,533 --> 05:34:54,267
have the how to fish ali

8529
05:34:54,267 --> 05:34:54,934
announce you're drafting these

8530
05:34:54,934 --> 05:34:55,635
water protections in sully

8531
05:34:55,635 --> 05:34:56,335
freezing any know hyperscale

8532
05:34:56,335 --> 05:34:58,735
data center applications from

8533
05:35:00,400 --> 05:35:01,842
sneaking into our borders. I'm

8534
05:35:01,842 --> 05:35:02,509
waiting to demand absolute

8535
05:35:02,509 --> 05:35:03,777
accountability transparency

8536
05:35:03,777 --> 05:35:05,777
and community protection

8537
05:35:07,881 --> 05:35:09,881
regarding items, 2610 5126

8538
05:35:10,830 --> 05:35:12,830
1023 2610 22 together items

8539
05:35:12,261 --> 05:35:13,120
represent a critical

8540
05:35:13,120 --> 05:35:14,120
crossroads for future north

8541
05:35:14,120 --> 05:35:14,854
part we cannot allow interests

8542
05:35:14,854 --> 05:35:17,824
and back mechanisms to dictate

8543
05:35:17,824 --> 05:35:19,860
our city's land use policies

8544
05:35:19,860 --> 05:35:20,560
regarding item 2610 51, we

8545
05:35:20,560 --> 05:35:22,863
must enact strictest possible

8546
05:35:22,863 --> 05:35:24,631
land-use regulations

8547
05:35:24,631 --> 05:35:25,465
concerning geisinger's our

8548
05:35:25,465 --> 05:35:26,166
current uldc completely that's

8549
05:35:26,166 --> 05:35:28,166
baseline protections against

8550
05:35:28,368 --> 05:35:30,270
these high impact industrial

8551
05:35:30,270 --> 05:35:31,638
facilities. Cannot pass lean

8552
05:35:31,638 --> 05:35:33,773
and regulations that are north

8553
05:35:33,773 --> 05:35:34,540
port into a bucket regulatory

8554
05:35:34,540 --> 05:35:36,940
have least resistance for

8555
05:35:37,610 --> 05:35:39,610
predatory tech development.

8556
05:35:40,213 --> 05:35:40,947
Any updates the uldc must

8557
05:35:40,947 --> 05:35:43,947
legally and a massive setbacks

8558
05:35:44,451 --> 05:35:46,119
from residential zones strict

8559
05:35:46,119 --> 05:35:48,540
low-frequency noise caps

8560
05:35:48,540 --> 05:35:48,955
resource usage limits to

8561
05:35:48,955 --> 05:35:50,724
protect are great and total

8562
05:35:50,724 --> 05:35:51,425
tax accountability, however,

8563
05:35:51,425 --> 05:35:52,920
protective zoning rules means

8564
05:35:52,920 --> 05:35:54,361
nothing if developments are

8565
05:35:54,361 --> 05:35:57,361
negotiated in the shadows this

8566
05:35:59,980 --> 05:35:59,799
brings me to item 2610 23,

8567
05:35:59,799 --> 05:36:01,367
simply establishing a process

8568
05:36:01,367 --> 05:36:03,102
to notify the commission of

8569
05:36:03,102 --> 05:36:05,380
non-disclosure agreements is a

8570
05:36:05,380 --> 05:36:05,706
dangerously we compromise

8571
05:36:05,706 --> 05:36:07,730
nearly notifying leadership

8572
05:36:07,730 --> 05:36:08,475
that a secret deal excess does

8573
05:36:08,475 --> 05:36:10,410
nothing to stop the secrecy

8574
05:36:10,410 --> 05:36:11,144
itself. We demand a total ban

8575
05:36:11,144 --> 05:36:12,379
monday between public

8576
05:36:12,379 --> 05:36:13,460
officials and private

8577
05:36:13,460 --> 05:36:14,514
developers local government

8578
05:36:14,514 --> 05:36:17,514
must operate in the finally

8579
05:36:18,484 --> 05:36:19,853
regarding I don't 2610 22 the

8580
05:36:19,853 --> 05:36:20,453
city must partly reversed

8581
05:36:20,453 --> 05:36:22,453
administrative approval

8582
05:36:23,389 --> 05:36:23,991
process for major projects

8583
05:36:23,991 --> 05:36:24,658
minister approval as a

8584
05:36:24,658 --> 05:36:25,459
loophole that's on elected

8585
05:36:25,459 --> 05:36:26,193
city staff rubber stamp

8586
05:36:26,193 --> 05:36:26,860
neighborhood offering

8587
05:36:26,860 --> 05:36:28,860
developments without public

8588
05:36:31,980 --> 05:36:33,166
hearings or a commission we

8589
05:36:33,166 --> 05:36:34,334
see how these pieces fit

8590
05:36:34,334 --> 05:36:35,869
together corporations use and

8591
05:36:35,869 --> 05:36:37,170
the a's to hide their plans

8592
05:36:37,170 --> 05:36:38,205
for last week you have the sea

8593
05:36:38,205 --> 05:36:40,173
regulations to protect their

8594
05:36:40,173 --> 05:36:41,908
profits and use administrative

8595
05:36:41,908 --> 05:36:42,609
approvals to bypass public

8596
05:36:42,609 --> 05:36:44,211
scrutiny there's a commission

8597
05:36:44,211 --> 05:36:44,945
to reject corporate secrecy

8598
05:36:44,945 --> 05:36:46,945
fully eliminate administrative

8599
05:36:48,348 --> 05:36:49,349
proffer stamping and codify

8600
05:36:49,349 --> 05:36:50,650
protections stacey mention

8601
05:36:50,650 --> 05:36:51,451
good morning commissioners, my

8602
05:36:51,451 --> 05:36:52,719
name is stacy mention I'm

8603
05:36:52,719 --> 05:36:55,488
writing today with the direct

8604
05:36:55,488 --> 05:36:56,123
mandate. We demand that media

8605
05:36:56,123 --> 05:36:57,524
drafting and enactment of

8606
05:36:57,524 --> 05:36:59,292
permanent wellfield protection

8607
05:36:59,292 --> 05:37:00,393
ordinances friend directly

8608
05:37:00,393 --> 05:37:02,228
into land development

8609
05:37:02,228 --> 05:37:03,297
regulations on florida senate

8610
05:37:03,297 --> 05:37:05,165
bill 4, 8, 4, we're with the

8611
05:37:05,165 --> 05:37:05,866
ministry delays twellman study

8612
05:37:05,866 --> 05:37:06,399
task force are legally risky

8613
05:37:06,399 --> 05:37:08,399
moratorium section

8614
05:37:09,335 --> 05:37:10,370
multimillion-dollar developer

8615
05:37:10,370 --> 05:37:12,172
lawsuit. I mean is that it do

8616
05:37:12,172 --> 05:37:12,872
pending ordinance doctor and

8617
05:37:12,872 --> 05:37:14,508
you have the legal authority

8618
05:37:14,508 --> 05:37:15,942
right now to officially

8619
05:37:15,942 --> 05:37:16,609
announce you're tracking these

8620
05:37:16,609 --> 05:37:17,277
water protections and sully

8621
05:37:17,277 --> 05:37:17,977
freezing any new hyperscale

8622
05:37:17,977 --> 05:37:20,377
data center applications from

8623
05:37:20,747 --> 05:37:21,948
sneaking into our borders. The

8624
05:37:21,948 --> 05:37:22,949
political line in the sand, a

8625
05:37:22,949 --> 05:37:23,983
strong today in the community

8626
05:37:23,983 --> 05:37:25,952
is tracking exactly each of

8627
05:37:25,952 --> 05:37:27,754
your stance. Commissioner

8628
05:37:27,754 --> 05:37:28,421
start if you want to earn your

8629
05:37:28,421 --> 05:37:29,255
re-election he will step up

8630
05:37:29,255 --> 05:37:29,989
today do what is best for port

8631
05:37:29,989 --> 05:37:30,557
resident to make that official

8632
05:37:30,557 --> 05:37:32,957
mission to review and

8633
05:37:33,927 --> 05:37:34,594
implement these wellfield

8634
05:37:34,594 --> 05:37:35,328
protections. Rex sign on to

8635
05:37:35,328 --> 05:37:37,300
this ordinance immediately and

8636
05:37:37,300 --> 05:37:40,300
stop using committee delays to

8637
05:37:40,800 --> 05:37:41,869
protect family interests.

8638
05:37:41,869 --> 05:37:42,836
Protecting our offer is in the

8639
05:37:42,836 --> 05:37:43,436
best interest of north port

8640
05:37:43,436 --> 05:37:46,436
which will be the best

8641
05:37:46,640 --> 05:37:48,742
interest for or just campaign

8642
05:37:48,742 --> 05:37:49,877
as well. Commissioner patch I

8643
05:37:49,877 --> 05:37:51,645
have new to keep that

8644
05:37:51,645 --> 05:37:52,846
outstanding following

8645
05:37:52,846 --> 05:37:53,880
community trust you have built

8646
05:37:53,880 --> 05:37:55,715
continue to lead the charge

8647
05:37:55,715 --> 05:37:56,950
and fully support this think a

8648
05:37:56,950 --> 05:37:58,519
framework on the floor

8649
05:37:58,519 --> 05:37:59,253
commissioned about if you want

8650
05:37:59,253 --> 05:37:59,920
to fall on the correct side of

8651
05:37:59,920 --> 05:38:00,553
history. You must sign onto

8652
05:38:00,553 --> 05:38:02,553
these welfare protections

8653
05:38:06,326 --> 05:38:06,993
drinking. First facing an

8654
05:38:06,993 --> 05:38:08,728
industrial extinction about

8655
05:38:08,728 --> 05:38:09,363
stop playing defense protect

8656
05:38:09,363 --> 05:38:10,630
our about shields use ask

8657
05:38:10,630 --> 05:38:12,463
protect florida's water right

8658
05:38:14,467 --> 05:38:15,302
now what's on there.

8659
05:38:15,302 --> 05:38:15,969
>> move on to commissioner

8660
05:38:15,969 --> 05:38:17,969
communications commissioner

8661
05:38:23,610 --> 05:38:24,978
duval. Commissioner stokes us

8662
05:38:24,978 --> 05:38:26,479
and 2 vice mayor and also

8663
05:38:26,479 --> 05:38:28,879
thank commissioner petro for

8664
05:38:31,618 --> 05:38:34,180
city manager. Mayor city

8665
05:38:38,240 --> 05:38:38,691
nothing can city clerk. I all

8666
05:38:38,691 --> 05:38:41,910
righty then assess special

8667
05:38:53,473 --> 05:38:55,873
time of for journalists.