[0:00] already high from
[0:03] excessive rainfall. It might
[0:06] take longer and that's normal.
[0:07] If you've ever seen grass and
[0:08] our retention ditches it MAY
[0:11] look like poor maintenance.
[0:11] But in many cases it's exactly
[0:12] what we want.
[0:16] But haitian helps filter out
[0:17] pollutants that was roads
[0:18] driveways
[0:24] and yards. It also slowed the
[0:25] water down giving the system
[0:26] time to move water safely
[0:27] without creating watch out for
[0:28] the retention ditches
[0:31] intersect with canals.
[0:33] Developers today are required
[0:34] to build retention ponds and
[0:37] engineer stormwater systems on
[0:38] their property. The system's
[0:39] hold water on site and only
[0:41] release it slowly into the
[0:42] city's network, commercial
[0:46] sites follow the same rules.
[0:47] Many new development is
[0:48] designed to reduce not
[0:49] increase sudden runoff into
[0:52] our system behind the scenes.
[0:52] >> coors public works teams
[0:58] that year round. Crews most
[0:58] wales clear calvert
[0:59] and maintain retention ditches
[1:03] and canals so water can keep
[1:04] moving. Sometimes that means
[1:04] using
[1:05] specialized equipment like a
[1:08] long stick excavators these
[1:10] large machines reach deep into
[1:10] canals
[1:11] to clear debris and keep water
[1:15] flowing efficiently. And after
[1:17] storms crews are on the ground
[1:18] inspecting repairing and
[1:19] responding quickly to changing
[1:21] conditions. It's a massive job
[1:21] and it never stops.
[1:25] But the system is only as
[1:27] strong as how we all treated.
[1:28] Residents played big part in
[1:31] keeping water moving. That
[1:31] means keeping swales and
[1:32] driveway culvert
[1:35] is clear. Never dumping grass
[1:35] clippings or debris in the
[1:37] ditches. And reporting
[1:38] problems when you
[1:43] see small actions that up and
[1:43] they keep the
[1:44] entire system working the way
[1:46] it was designed to. Trains
[1:48] in north port is complex. It
[1:50] was designed decades ago, most
[1:51] storms have grown more intense
[1:55] over the years. The system
[1:55] will continue to do its job
[1:56] when it's maintained and
[1:56] support
[2:00] we can make north port
[2:01] drainage system continue to
[2:02] protect our homes. Our
[2:03] community. And
[2:14] our future.
[2:16] >> in port families are
[2:21] finding more and more places
[2:21] bill.
[2:30] >> just for them we are in
[2:31] center
[2:41] >> today is tuesday SEPTEMBER
[2:42] 2026, it's 10:00am where the
[2:42] city chambers and I called the
[2:43] city commission regular
[2:46] meeting to order.
[2:49] Commissioners present are
[2:50] commissioner goodell MISTER
[2:53] Vice mayor london and
[2:54] commissioner petro there's a
[2:55] quorum present for this
[2:56] meeting also present our city
[2:58] manager fletcher city attorney
[3:01] fully know city passport
[3:02] specialist lender police paris
[3:07] fire chief titus requesting
[3:08] commissioners public
[3:08] participants and staff
[3:09] maintain order and decorum
[3:13] throughout this meeting city
[3:15] admission policy 2021 dash 0,
[3:18] 3, states that attendees show
[3:19] refrain from engaging in
[3:21] personal attacks enforce dress
[3:22] immaterial land already seen
[3:25] profane or disorderly conduct.
[3:27] Additionally meeting attendees
[3:30] must refrain from seen profane
[3:31] or disorderly conduct
[3:31] including hand clapping,
[3:35] yelling and similar
[3:35] demonstrations. Disturbs peace
[3:39] and good order of the meeting.
[3:40] >> commission all we something
[3:48] they serve.
[3:55] >> united states of stands
[3:56] nation under GOD indivisible
[3:56] with liberty and justice for
[4:03] all. Thank you I'm going to
[4:08] ask for approval of the
[4:10] >> have a motion on floor by
[4:11] commissioner still to approve
[4:13] the agenda do I have second
[4:14] second seconded by
[4:14] commissioner who vice mayor
[4:19] london. It's nothing to that
[4:23] and that passes 5 to 0. So
[4:27] public comment please ma'am.
[4:29] >> and her son I have and the
[4:43] havre.
[4:44] >> good morning commissioners.
[4:46] My name is jenna to I live in
[4:49] port in a support the data
[4:51] center moratorium. I have
[4:52] previously spoken about
[4:53] technical in consistencies in
[4:56] the deep park applications.
[4:58] Today I want to focus on the
[4:58] public people trail for the
[5:02] moratorium exclusion. The
[5:02] public a stellar record for
[5:07] this data center application.
[5:10] >> psd pee dash 2, 6, dash 0,
[5:11] 3, 3, 2, shows a submittal in
[5:14] issue date of AUGUST 31st, it
[5:19] shows a record summery around
[5:20] 04:00pm he's around 05:00pm
[5:21] and workflow status quote
[5:25] application in t awaiting
[5:26] plans. But obvious are first
[5:26] does not appear to be
[5:31] beginning of this application
[5:33] history. JULY to data centers
[5:34] documents including digitally
[5:36] signed plans from the 20 it.
[5:40] And applicant AUGUST 31st
[5:40] filing response to city
[5:44] comments from AUGUST 12th.
[5:46] That appears to indicate there
[5:47] was earlier submission or
[5:51] intake is associated with this
[5:52] application. But I've not
[5:52] found the public acela project
[5:55] number for that JULY's
[5:56] submission. The public a
[5:56] stellar record I can find for
[6:01] the dea park data center site
[6:03] development plan is psd pee
[6:07] dash 2, 6 dash 3, 3, 8, 2
[6:10] showing AUGUST 31st is the
[6:11] submittal t if the JUNE was
[6:11] the mission was later
[6:17] converted into. For the to I
[6:19] would expect the public record
[6:21] to show history identify the
[6:24] original intake record. Right
[6:27] now I can see the JULY
[6:27] documents and in AUGUST 31st
[6:30] to some of the submittal but
[6:31] not the official bridge
[6:34] between them. What official
[6:38] record connects the JULY
[6:40] submission. The AUGUST 12 city
[6:44] comments in the AUGUST 31st, a
[6:45] seller record that matters
[6:46] because this project is being
[6:47] treated differently under the
[6:53] moratorium. Even suddenly is
[6:55] the standard the public should
[6:57] know which submission and the
[6:59] exclusion and where it can be
[7:02] verified. My second concern is
[7:05] what that exclusion protects
[7:07] the applicants documents show
[7:08] major support infrastructure
[7:10] is not fully within this
[7:11] application. The plan's legal
[7:12] the electrical substation
[7:17] quote by others and the
[7:17] applicant's responses that
[7:20] will be developed leader under
[7:21] separate cover. Before that
[7:23] went SEPTEMBER 22nd second
[7:26] reading please identify the
[7:26] official submission that earns
[7:29] a fee exclusion. The record
[7:32] number indeed tied to it. The
[7:35] ordinance language allowing
[7:39] pst pee dash 2, 6, dash 0, 3,
[7:43] to to continue. And whether
[7:44] exclusion protects only that
[7:45] has filed also future
[7:46] separately permit it the
[7:55] structures. Thank you.
[8:00] >> good morning
[8:00] >> I'm going to take a totally
[8:01] different approach and kind of
[8:04] wing it here bear with I'm say
[8:06] for stuff that I for you.
[8:09] Representing.
[8:14] >> thousands upon thousands of
[8:15] citizens, not just within our
[8:18] city but the adjoining city
[8:19] also just like when we hear
[8:19] from the dias that you're
[8:20] representing the city as a
[8:23] whole.
[8:24] >> but get they're not showing
[8:25] up and they're not voting. We
[8:26] have this every low voting
[8:28] record. I'm doing the same.
[8:33] Appear before you to kind of
[8:35] plead the case of this data
[8:35] center and what it really
[8:36] means to our city and do we
[8:38] really need it within our city
[8:39] and what is the main purpose
[8:42] of having it within our city
[8:42] and do we have enough
[8:43] safeguards particles
[8:46] provisions within our city.
[8:47] All of that kind of this you
[8:51] know we do not. The movement
[8:54] is not just limited to a city
[8:54] is a nationwide movement and
[8:55] is just growing stronger and
[8:58] stronger and stronger.
[9:00] >> we've had states that are
[9:00] actually putting in
[9:04] moratoriums trying to put bans
[9:05] on it. The technological
[9:06] environment that we find
[9:07] ourselves in is moving so fast
[9:11] that. By the time a data
[9:15] center I center gets filled.
[9:16] It's almost obsolete because
[9:16] the technology has advanced
[9:18] way after that and then what
[9:22] are we left with possibility
[9:23] of having a empty data center
[9:25] and maybe a possible bradfield
[9:28] so we really don't know that
[9:29] is the purpose for this 18
[9:30] month moratorium that we are
[9:34] asking. Not to shorten it we
[9:34] need the full 18 months to
[9:36] really put everything that we
[9:41] need into our uldc I've got
[9:43] sam was going to speak to one
[9:44] of the protections that really
[9:46] need to be instituted
[9:47] immediately. But I just want
[9:51] to say with economic
[9:53] development strategy. We just
[9:55] can't selling out our city in
[9:56] the name of economic
[9:57] development and the tax base
[10:01] at risk of quality of life
[10:04] issues for us citizen. Quality
[10:05] of life issues disintegrating
[10:09] at a rapid pace because of all
[10:10] the development that's going
[10:11] on the affordable housing
[10:15] restrictions you've got run
[10:16] to. It's like where else is
[10:17] there to build what else can
[10:18] we build now here comes ai
[10:21] center and this particular
[10:22] it's not a data center at this
[10:23] particular square footage.
[10:26] It's a I and that should scare
[10:26] the #
[10:27] #
[10:27] #
[10:27] #
[10:29] out of almost
[10:30] everybody here. So again, I'm
[10:31] just standing for you to
[10:34] really listen to what the
[10:35] saying really consider because
[10:36] we've got a lot of smart
[10:39] people out there. That have
[10:40] excellent idea really just
[10:41] please consider them all when
[10:44] you're having a discussions.
[10:53] Thank you. Art.
[10:57] >> good morning, good morning.
[10:58] Now we have heard of florida
[10:59] resident 25 years north port
[11:03] tents. I received my term
[11:03] notice this year and I
[11:04] actually took the time to try
[11:07] to understand it for once. So
[11:09] the one issue that I didn't
[11:11] quite understand and I looked
[11:12] at was on the last it's and up
[11:15] maine and reconstruction.
[11:15] >> I assume that's capital
[11:21] projects. So I pulled up the
[11:22] of my neighborhood because I
[11:25] was curious who's paying what
[11:27] that I found out and the
[11:28] finance department that it's
[11:30] based on $46 per lot. That's
[11:32] what we pay into that fund. I
[11:35] have 4 lots. Combined so I pay
[11:40] a $184, I'm fine with that.
[11:41] What I'm not flying with is
[11:46] the fact that I sampled 40.
[11:47] Double triple quadruple lot in
[11:52] my small neighborhood just 40
[11:56] and 28, which is 70% I long.
[11:57] They're $46 they should be 90
[12:00] to one 38. There's one on here
[12:05] with side lots haley states
[12:06] their side lots ken do he pays
[12:08] $92. Your chain notices are
[12:14] wrong. And if that line is
[12:18] what else is is my concern so
[12:20] I'm going to give this to to
[12:21] the county and have her entry
[12:23] into the wreckage. I think
[12:26] this is a serious issue. I
[12:26] think somebody really needs to
[12:27] take a look at
[12:37] >> I
[12:48] >> have is the first
[12:51] >> I MAY I do have some for
[12:55] everybody agree to city clerk.
[12:56] Good morning commissioners and
[13:02] do. Citizens my name is samuel
[13:02] turpin thing I'm standing here
[13:05] as an independent resident who
[13:05] lived the literal nightmare
[13:09] resource collapse firsthand
[13:11] I'm not here for the political
[13:12] theater on today's agenda, I'm
[13:15] here to hand to an exact laker
[13:16] blueprint to save our
[13:19] community and a clear line in
[13:21] the sand. Let's be about the
[13:22] reality a multibillion-dollar
[13:23] developer has love to permit
[13:28] and to our system. Under
[13:30] florida law you cannot use
[13:32] senate 44 as a retrofit a time
[13:37] machine to about patient. Only
[13:42] way that the center it is it
[13:43] 180 administrative and
[13:44] sufficiency clout expires to
[13:48] it due to its own technical
[13:49] errors. Immediate danger
[13:53] to north community 7 florida.
[13:54] As the corporate head who is
[13:59] at second that the court fails
[14:00] play as well that bird chain
[14:00] of new to slide applications
[14:05] to are so loopholes. We do not
[14:07] have months to sit around and
[14:08] the slow moving steady task
[14:15] tune like that that is ahead
[14:19] in the and evidence that was a
[14:21] highly secure today's defense
[14:22] recognized that so we're not
[14:28] so it. Why the pending
[14:31] stockton, the moment, those
[14:32] commission votes to attempt to
[14:34] modify or regulations to since
[14:41] the released said shop this us
[14:42] view of entire to prison
[14:45] reject applications spiral
[14:52] after well the lou. If you you
[14:59] stop today stopped to
[14:59] employment has for the closet
[15:07] at kitchen. Official
[15:07] insufficient so stand about
[15:13] the rate they so then after
[15:17] you do your eminence snow has
[15:18] stopped in new parliament, you
[15:23] a 180 so that parliament put
[15:29] motion to use as has said you
[15:30] >> and that he shouldn't used
[15:31] in the first place and we
[15:37] would have to be here so I my
[15:38] another you're teaching wrong
[15:49] thing to do to he did office
[15:50] and all.
[16:12] >> good morning I that I come
[16:12] here you piece, I'm other
[16:19] criminal. Or too told, and
[16:23] always thing you do respect.
[16:34] Yes is set off and has degree.
[16:36] This is for me said staffing
[16:37] fuel those do should be given
[16:40] to be changed by ways. Way but
[16:47] it people end 27 finds
[16:59] everybody that you have 2
[17:01] weston's well you have good
[17:01] that we thought might not you
[17:09] spend you've got syria step
[17:13] says would we only a big and
[17:27] for in got the e. Men not of
[17:34] that. And that is action. And
[17:41] if not at all attention.
[17:42] Documentary and over-under
[17:50] view it. With just around $30
[17:59] a day. That's post close to
[18:08] jury. Can you into this to
[18:08] shop and I think my election
[18:12] between french and it I said
[18:21] that MAY be you. He did it in
[18:24] in united states it. He
[18:37] stopped short the that's for
[18:53] what does that it is $3 and do
[18:55] the company and show believe
[19:08] that evidence. Say to be just
[19:16] business. But
[19:30] >> cathy sam burgess
[19:32] >> good I'm a new port are
[19:32] PRESIDENT I'm very very upset
[19:37] about data center. And ok I
[19:40] just have a few comments our
[19:42] current unified development
[19:43] code is completely unequipped
[19:44] to handle unique industrial
[19:50] demands of these facilities.
[19:51] Hyperscale danger center is
[19:52] not a standard office park is
[19:57] a heavy industrial utility.
[19:58] These complexes, these
[19:59] complexes run continuous
[20:00] low-frequency cooling fans and
[20:03] backup generators create
[20:04] massive noise pollution
[20:05] destroying the peace to
[20:08] prosperity values, a nearby
[20:09] neighborhoods that would be
[20:10] very upsetting to me a kind of
[20:11] close to that I don't live
[20:12] that close, but I'm still very
[20:14] upset about furthermore more.
[20:17] For the morning. Our region
[20:19] cannot handle the resource
[20:19] train.
[20:22] We cannot sacrifice our
[20:25] drinking water supply and
[20:28] great stability or power grid
[20:28] stability for an industry that
[20:33] provides member term local
[20:34] jobs. And was taken thank you
[20:49] very much. Thank you MADAM.
[20:50] >> just everybody, violations
[20:56] that. Shortly after yeah. When
[20:58] the blood was in charge here
[21:01] the last of the 3 of the line
[21:04] first though cited placed the
[21:05] personal property my property,
[21:06] you try to tell me I could
[21:14] have. They came up with other
[21:14] things outside the 4 times but
[21:19] is coalitions and none of them
[21:20] 15 because I didn't do
[21:22] something wrong. But yet. I
[21:23] had to go through all of the
[21:23] #
[21:23] #
[21:23] #
[21:23] #
[21:24] #
[21:24] #
[21:24] #
[21:24] #
[21:24] that you guys put
[21:24] forth.
[21:33] And camera she
[21:36] everybody a lot cameras the
[21:37] 4th minute, a 5th of that I
[21:41] can think those. Leaders asked
[21:44] with week before 3 men from on
[21:50] the kids that I 600 people
[21:52] that had to give numbers in
[21:55] order to serviced by building
[21:58] department. I think you're all
[22:01] people, especially you 3.30.
[22:11] Thank you.
[22:13] >> morning. My put it out
[22:15] might over to 3, 9, 9, 4, 2,
[22:30] 3, 4, 1, today is
[22:44] >> for ultimately I meant no
[23:01] to hunters. On I think the
[23:14] council should be aware. Grant
[23:20] approval process.
[23:25] Wholeheartedly want to allow
[23:26] with that's when you're
[23:26] talking anything for
[23:27] multi-family apartment
[23:41] building.
[23:57] I think about him.
[24:02] Problem with that that
[24:04] knowledge with her leave it
[24:07] and you know in
[24:08] and for the fact
[24:27] >> I that that we would have.
[24:30] >> in 19 bring 2020 well.
[24:32] >> no
[24:36] >> department in end of the
[24:37] general public comment. You
[24:43] MAY that.
[24:44] >> but the city manager not
[24:44] there's ton financial
[24:48] decisions and not blame she
[24:49] would bring a new vehicle
[24:50] purchases brad and the time.
[24:58] To be a distraction magic
[24:59] populations and last but
[24:59] certainly
[25:04] not that and city of
[25:19] port gotten
[25:20] >> mining without for number
[25:24] 9, 3, 6 I'm a comment
[25:29] commission meeting at 10:00am
[25:32] nda the nondisclosure
[25:33] agreement mentioned going to
[25:34] be today.
[25:41] Is but it's not my aunt how we
[25:42] things in
[25:44] port and
[25:51] not transparent. I mean it it
[25:52] holding the information that
[25:54] important other than that and
[25:55] how we got into the situation
[26:04] we on and I first out so I
[26:06] hope that the see that and
[26:07] they some of the control in
[26:08] terms making decisions within
[26:12] the city. She was each every
[26:16] commissioner. And they should
[26:25] not all questioned making the
[26:28] decision me so let's take back
[26:29] some control
[26:35] over and put that back can.
[26:36] >> I will be watching that
[26:40] candidate and the u person of
[26:40] the on my way home thank you
[26:50] so much have
[26:56] >> and I not comment on
[27:05] >> and I didn't know
[27:16] >> starting with for style and
[27:18] for managing. I think you
[27:20] fallen in
[27:28] protect detrimental going to
[27:30] use your authority
[27:32] protect north port I think to
[27:36] be you that rate party under
[27:37] which the state and you have
[27:43] vision your man and the great
[27:48] that already at remaining your
[27:53] control starting get a and
[27:56] what's on label where
[28:00] residential what they and a
[28:01] logical the care they need to
[28:06] bored buildings and a lot
[28:06] attention.
[28:11] >> are high. Not allowed
[28:35] that's the best you not a MAY.
[28:42] Still final point
[28:52] >> all during the battle in
[29:05] not
[29:10] >> for tuesday SEPTEMBER
[29:13] public comment we that
[29:17] mentioned to to the ideas that
[29:20] they sharing with you
[29:23] regarding that the 44 how we
[29:24] prevent a new will protected
[29:24] from the
[29:32] hope you listen to it and take
[29:32] that
[29:33] consideration peaks on the
[29:34] items for today's meeting
[29:37] thank
[29:40] >> and some skiing. Good
[29:41] morning. Commissioners. My
[29:45] name is ann stislicki.
[29:46] >> and I'm calling in today
[29:47] with the direct mandate for
[29:48] the stylus we demand the
[29:50] immediate threat that meant a
[29:51] permanent wellfield protection
[29:52] ordinances right directly into
[29:53] our local land development
[29:53] regulations on the florida
[29:55] senate bill 4, 8, 4, we're
[30:00] with the administrative delays
[30:02] 12 study task force or legally
[30:02] risky moratoriums that trigger
[30:04] multi-million dollar developer
[30:07] lawsuits additional pending
[30:08] ordinance doctrine. You have
[30:11] the right now to officially
[30:12] announce your draft in these
[30:13] water protections instantly
[30:14] freezing any new hyperscale
[30:14] data center applications from
[30:18] sneaking into our borders. The
[30:19] political scientist and a
[30:19] strong the community is
[30:23] tracking exactly where each of
[30:23] you stand. Commissioner starts
[30:24] if you want to earn your
[30:25] re-election he will step up
[30:28] today staff administrative
[30:29] word salad and make that
[30:29] official mission to review and
[30:32] implement these welfare
[30:34] protections. Average if you
[30:35] want to campaign to have any
[30:35] drop credibility with the
[30:40] voters he will sign into onto
[30:41] ordinance immediately and stop
[30:41] using committee delays to
[30:44] protect family interests.
[30:44] Commissioner picture if you
[30:45] want to keep the outstanding
[30:46] following and community trust
[30:47] you have built, you will
[30:48] continue to lead the charge
[30:50] and fully support this ira
[30:54] flatow framework on the floor.
[30:54] Commissioners about I believe
[30:55] you sincere person who wants
[30:59] to do right by us. Town if you
[31:01] want to in the correct side
[31:02] history must sign onto these
[31:04] protections to protect our
[31:07] drinking water are facing an
[31:08] industrialist extinction event
[31:09] stop playing defense protect
[31:10] our well fields used sb 4, 8,
[31:11] 4, protect florida's water
[31:16] right now. Kate once well not
[31:18] believe the officials in our
[31:19] city racking the slide get off
[31:20] your high horse get out your
[31:21] wallet if you're elected and
[31:25] you be gone by now. Do the
[31:25] right thing by the people
[31:26] before we show on your
[31:30] doorstep. Want to
[31:31] commissioners my name is
[31:33] sherry and I'm writing today
[31:34] with the direct mandate for
[31:34] this dry as we demand the
[31:35] immediate drafting and
[31:39] enactment of. Herman
[31:40] protection ordinances right
[31:42] directly into land development
[31:43] regulations under florida
[31:45] senate bill 4, 8, 4, we're
[31:46] done with administrative
[31:47] delays study task force were
[31:48] legally risky moratoriums are
[31:51] multi-million dollar developer
[31:53] lawsuit under the judicial
[31:53] pending ordinance doctor and
[31:54] you have the legal authority
[31:55] right now to officially
[31:57] announce your draft means
[31:58] water protections and so
[31:59] freezing any new hyperscale
[32:00] data center applications from
[32:03] sneaking into our borders. It
[32:04] doesn't will not economic
[32:04] development to the city adonis
[32:08] are will not bring revenue to
[32:10] the city. A real police are
[32:10] water and where it will
[32:11] destroy habitat for wildlife
[32:12] it will cause damage beyond
[32:12] the data center please stop
[32:16] this from happening using that
[32:17] you saw possible. I'll be
[32:18] watching and I will voting in
[32:22] NOVEMBER. David regarding the
[32:25] city commission regular
[32:26] meeting on 31st twenty-twenty
[32:27] section specifically the
[32:27] motion to impose a moratorium
[32:30] center's at the forest. By
[32:33] commissioner this moratorium
[32:34] motion was what the meeting
[32:35] was about and what the
[32:35] hundreds of citizens that took
[32:38] time out of their life said
[32:39] they wanted. The amended
[32:40] motion by commissioner starts
[32:41] the second by commissioner
[32:43] about the and the post am
[32:45] legend line
[32:46] didn't work. A master class in
[32:50] absolute power us. Just how
[32:50] many hundreds of
[32:51] citizen showing up take for
[32:52] you to grow a spine and do
[33:00] your job. It into mandate for
[33:02] that style as we demand the
[33:03] immediate draft and I kind of
[33:05] permanent wellfield protection
[33:06] ordinances britt directly into
[33:07] our development regulations
[33:08] under florida senate bill 44
[33:09] we're done with the ministry
[33:15] delays. Anonymous this meeting
[33:17] a sham you do not represent
[33:19] the people of port stokes your
[33:20] costume flip-flopping cursing
[33:21] at petro amateur cussing at
[33:22] citizens or your blatant
[33:23] discussed for citizens want to
[33:27] silence the public. It's
[33:27] disgraceful. We take people's
[33:28] right to speech banning
[33:29] clapping even for freely
[33:32] caught and cursed and the late
[33:32] PRESIDENT's you pay your
[33:35] salary is atrocious. This is
[33:37] not leadership. This is
[33:38] hypocrisy and abuse of power
[33:39] you are drunk on power and
[33:41] maybe also drunk you 2 need to
[33:41] be random breathalyzer test it
[33:44] before you come into the city
[33:44] hall. If a who works for him
[33:48] fire city manager fletcher
[33:49] immediately for the nda
[33:49] secrecy, a backdoor deals
[33:52] involving a liner and
[33:53] development services and these
[33:54] clothes or maintenance item
[33:56] forton information from the
[33:58] public. The pad meeting was a
[34:00] disgrace. It was a great
[34:01] sponsorship for the center's
[34:04] it was disgusting like a
[34:05] sleazy car salesman MISTER
[34:09] Siddiqui himself this was did
[34:10] any of our tax dollars went
[34:11] toward that's disgusting
[34:15] one-sided pony show your
[34:16] misappropriation of our tax
[34:17] dollars and erosion of trust
[34:18] are all examples of failure
[34:20] that will be your legacy and
[34:24] all of this is for point
[34:25] repugnant to also to shun and
[34:27] the city's charter do it now
[34:28] or be prepared for the full
[34:29] force of an angry public that
[34:30] will no longer tolerate this
[34:31] the people of north port are
[34:34] watching we will remember now
[34:35] number will be memorable
[34:39] careers in public service
[34:40] sector. Well, reverend martin
[34:41] shane you are a disgrace
[34:41] failures and you will be
[34:49] forever remembered a the are
[34:52] left to address item 26 dash
[34:53] 1051 we need to tighten the
[34:54] uldc code to protect our
[34:55] environment and our beautiful
[34:57] city I think it's been made
[34:58] clear that the residents are
[35:01] not in favor of a desk a
[35:02] little new york and there are
[35:05] a lot of struck a habitat and
[35:06] ac 6 an ac time has anyone
[35:07] verify posed snr isn't in a
[35:11] scrub jay area.
[35:12] >> I'm sure there are lots of
[35:13] gopher tortoises in area also
[35:14] along with multiple other
[35:15] wildlife, the constant hum of
[35:16] the center and the running of
[35:16] multiple generators is
[35:19] deafening noise pollution has
[35:20] there been any long-term
[35:22] studies of the noise and light
[35:22] effects in the virginia and
[35:24] ohio got center's already up
[35:25] and running what about water
[35:28] and air pollution stumbles. We
[35:30] ton and hurricane area. What
[35:31] happens if a major storm hits
[35:34] one of these centers can we
[35:35] specify center's because of
[35:36] the fragile lives propensity
[35:40] on stable ground and sinkholes
[35:41] what about possible
[35:41] contamination of groundwater
[35:42] most of us in the area have
[35:43] well sweeney clean drinking
[35:46] water survive. There needs to
[35:48] be tighter regulations to
[35:49] prohibit the multiple problems
[35:51] that are inherent to a data
[35:53] center I'm sure wants to push
[35:54] for a or so they can reap the
[35:58] benefits of second downtown's
[35:59] of electricity. It's there
[36:00] needs to be protections for
[36:00] all of us not just for bay
[36:04] energy and developers. Please
[36:05] do your homework and reach out
[36:06] to the cities that have
[36:07] successfully lot guys that are
[36:07] so you can follow suit our
[36:08] city and its residents to
[36:14] pounce on you. Greg holder.
[36:16] There are measures later today
[36:18] I want just 3 specific issues
[36:20] disastrous uldc rewrite the
[36:20] administrative approval
[36:22] process that stripped away
[36:23] meaningful or science city
[36:24] staff entering into
[36:24] non-disclosure agreements
[36:25] without the knowledge or
[36:28] consent of this commission. Of
[36:29] those issues when they come
[36:31] before you but they're not
[36:33] isolated problems together
[36:35] they reveal pattern
[36:35] diminishing transparency
[36:36] living oversight and avoiding
[36:37] accountability accountability
[36:39] starts at the top. The
[36:39] fingerprints of the city
[36:40] manager and director
[36:41] development services are on
[36:43] each of these issues through
[36:45] their direct decisions
[36:47] delegated authority or staff
[36:47] under their direction and they
[36:48] have helped put the city and
[36:49] its residents in the position
[36:51] we are now trying to correct
[36:52] at some point accountability
[36:53] has to mean something we
[36:54] cannot keep reversing bad
[36:55] decisions rewriting policies
[36:57] and fixing broken processes.
[36:58] But unlike the leadership's
[37:01] responsible for them. I have
[37:04] that the city manager and the
[37:04] director of development
[37:05] services I'm asking this
[37:07] commission to terminate both
[37:08] immediately for cost that's
[37:08] supported by established back
[37:11] city policy of our contract.
[37:11] This isn't personal. It's
[37:12] leadership. Accountability
[37:15] later today we can debate each
[37:15] each train right now I'm
[37:19] asking you to look at the
[37:20] first there are 3 separate
[37:22] failures, these are symptoms
[37:24] of the leadership politics and
[37:24] the policies without
[37:25] addressing the leadership
[37:26] created them is not
[37:33] accountability its cleanup.
[37:33] Assist. Good morning.
[37:34] Commissioners. My name is
[37:35] jamie, I'm calling in today
[37:36] with a direct mandate for the
[37:38] we demand that media drafting
[37:39] and enactment a permanent
[37:40] wellfield protection ordinance
[37:40] is written directly into our
[37:43] local land development
[37:43] regulations.
[37:46] >> on a florida race we're
[37:46] done with the administrative
[37:48] delays study task force or
[37:52] legally risky moratoriums
[37:52] extra multimillion-dollar
[37:54] under the additional pending
[37:55] doctor or dentist doctor and
[37:56] you have the legal authority
[37:56] right now to officially
[37:58] announce your draft these
[37:59] water protections, it's only
[38:00] freezing any new occasions
[38:02] from sneaking into our
[38:04] borders. The political line in
[38:05] the sand, a strong today and
[38:07] the community is tracking
[38:08] exactly each of you stance.
[38:10] Commissioner stoves if you
[38:11] want earn your reelection
[38:13] you'll step up stop them a
[38:13] straight up or and make that
[38:14] official motion to review and
[38:16] implement these welfare
[38:18] protections but he campaign to
[38:19] have any drop of credibility
[38:20] with the voters he will sign
[38:21] on to ordinance immediately
[38:22] stop using committee delays
[38:24] fact family interest
[38:25] commissioner petro if you want
[38:29] to keep standing following
[38:30] community trust we have built
[38:30] you'll continue to lead the
[38:31] charge fully support this
[38:35] ironclad legal framework on
[38:36] the floor commissioners about
[38:36] believe you are sincere person
[38:38] who wants to do the right
[38:41] thing by just how if you want
[38:42] to fall on side of history
[38:44] must sign off to wellfield
[38:44] protections to protect our
[38:47] drinking water aquifers facing
[38:49] an industrial extinction event
[38:50] stop playing defense protect
[38:50] our wellfields you zesty
[38:51] protect florida's water right
[39:01] now. Jane citizens enter port.
[39:03] I'm speaking today state my
[39:05] strong opposition to bring
[39:07] enters into our communities
[39:07] facilities operate 24 7 with
[39:09] massive industrial plant
[39:12] systems and diesel backup
[39:13] generators to create constant
[39:14] high-decibel noise and play
[39:14] our air they consume millions
[39:17] gallons of water every water
[39:18] legal system that residents
[39:19] desperately need and they wait
[39:20] out local force and over land
[39:21] destroying the beautiful
[39:23] wildlife that makes our town
[39:25] special. We should protecting
[39:26] our communities, quiet
[39:27] neighborhoods clean
[39:27] environment and natural
[39:28] resources, not handing them
[39:30] over to industrial centers. I
[39:31] strongly urge the council to
[39:36] vote no on proposal. You know
[39:38] you the commissioners about
[39:39] MISTER Should be ashamed of
[39:40] the way they refused to vote
[39:41] MISTER Patrick's proposal on
[39:45] 31 to include the current data
[39:48] center proposal and the center
[39:49] only moving after already
[39:50] approving an amendment to not
[39:52] only the current proposal
[39:53] makes no sense and completely
[39:53] negated MISTER Crutcher's
[39:54] proposal before it could even
[39:57] be going on. The commissioners
[39:58] MISTER Kutcher seem to be
[40:00] letting city staff who have
[40:00] not been elected make all the
[40:01] decisions for a statement was
[40:05] even made so that. Today 9 to
[40:06] the makes the big bucks
[40:08] referring to the city
[40:09] attorney, the sums up so
[40:13] perfectly in your own words,
[40:17] worship you think the city
[40:17] staff implore us elected
[40:18] officials to think for
[40:19] yourself not just listen to
[40:23] money, thank you. Kim and all
[40:24] that's energy use too much
[40:25] water there too noisy and take
[40:27] away animals natural habitat
[40:28] too many negatives outweigh
[40:32] any manage lindor I supposed
[40:38] to senators, however, coulter
[40:40] is a futuristic and visionary
[40:41] in technology known for
[40:42] pioneering this can commerce
[40:43] cancer connect and scantling
[40:44] qr codes that scan with your
[40:46] mobile phones platform. Police
[40:51] stations and all countries
[40:52] that specializes in computer
[40:53] vision and machine learning
[40:55] and artificial intelligent
[40:56] platforms along with energy
[40:57] production innovative building
[41:00] technologies and analytics
[41:01] forensic sciences, past
[41:03] winners of the smithsonian's
[41:04] larry, a medal for most likely
[41:06] to change citing his recent
[41:07] book explains the importance
[41:09] of why we must move forward
[41:11] with that sn his boat, the 3
[41:13] to communist china secret war
[41:15] to end american ai center's
[41:16] china's relentless drive for a
[41:16] is no longer a distance
[41:21] threat. For a massive state
[41:23] that infrastructure, energy
[41:24] strategic control global
[41:26] supply chains the ccp is
[41:28] building a nonstop about
[41:29] technology empower america
[41:31] debates policy china executes
[41:34] executes this is not whether
[41:35] trend it is the decisive about
[41:37] the other of the 21st century
[41:38] where center's power
[41:39] generation cooling systems and
[41:40] sovereign energy
[41:41] infrastructure will determine
[41:42] who controls intelligence
[41:44] economic supremacy and
[41:45] national security this book is
[41:46] not a statement of opinion is
[41:47] about facts as to why we must
[41:50] move center's I agree with the
[41:51] majority of the people that
[41:51] they should never be placed in
[41:54] areas where people live work
[41:57] or school. This misinformation
[41:58] about senators ask sumption
[41:58] electricity or off your base
[42:02] propaganda still wants to
[42:04] instill fear in people who are
[42:05] your knowledge if the city
[42:07] commission is interested I
[42:09] love to connect you with
[42:09] MISTER Paul to present this
[42:10] topic in a lot of money in for
[42:16] matt. Thank you. Commissioners
[42:17] please and commonwealth
[42:19] protection with our lprs c 44
[42:23] and the epa endorsed well
[42:24] action. He wants to live with
[42:25] but no can live without water,
[42:28] you need water to please
[42:30] freeze. And you for center's
[42:31] applications and all matters
[42:32] and north are tech north
[42:36] port's residents. Regarding 26
[42:40] dash 1051 2610 2326 1022 as
[42:42] air is across the state are
[42:43] area is designated running
[42:44] level not enough drinking
[42:47] water for projected 2030
[42:48] population, your these
[42:48] environmentally harmful
[42:51] without the data center. It is
[42:52] in close proximity to this
[42:56] neighborhood a little ho-hum
[42:57] waterways. The snow there is a
[42:59] source of north port's
[43:00] drinking water aquifer
[43:00] transmit city the rate at
[43:01] which groundwater flow as far
[43:07] as is the second lowest rate.
[43:09] 10,000 feet square per day
[43:11] having top of and geological
[43:12] survey has been done to this
[43:13] part of the peace river
[43:14] watershed while listening to
[43:18] the at I and the pra rws I
[43:20] represented I heard we have
[43:22] not my assumption and many I
[43:25] don't know I understand why
[43:25] you have show no need
[43:32] representative plc go the isi
[43:33] conveniently lost engine on
[43:34] JULY 2720 26, no wonder he
[43:35] didn't have any definitive
[43:38] answers to the commissioner's
[43:40] questions that guy participate
[43:41] in local government jobs to
[43:41] discuss the benefits and
[43:44] technology needs of large
[43:46] digital facilities. According
[43:48] to communities should about
[43:49] the way center's the way they
[43:51] have made any major economic
[43:51] development proposal. That's
[43:53] impacts and 4 with the
[44:01] community's should meet
[44:01] rigorous standard for use
[44:05] traffic noise land use public
[44:08] safety, global canada 337
[44:12] china 449 uk 5.23 germany, 5
[44:13] 29 us 5,427 north port is no
[44:19] place for guests enter. Us. I
[44:20] am one the resident port for
[44:22] over 25 years I spent the last
[44:23] meeting in my opinion has not
[44:25] changed diapers data centers.
[44:26] I do propose site which is to
[44:27] question my home and saw 2
[44:33] year. Police council of the
[44:34] right now and the time limit
[44:35] and deny the permit based
[44:35] efficiency this does not count
[44:36] as a burdensome act and we
[44:38] cannot be sued part of the
[44:39] pending ordinance stop turn
[44:45] out all occasions right well,
[44:46] protections bsp for this in
[44:47] short little communities
[44:48] retain full authority over
[44:49] comprehensive planning and
[44:49] zoning for largely because
[44:54] customers. The moment, current
[44:55] permit expires the commission
[44:57] must immediately permanent
[44:58] wellfield protection
[44:59] ordinances directly into land
[45:02] development regulation lprs
[45:04] any future hyperscale projects
[45:06] will then be forced to legally
[45:07] prove its massive water
[45:09] consumption will not harm
[45:11] local infrastructure or water
[45:12] resources we do not risky
[45:14] sweeping moratoriums are messy
[45:14] bands that by multi million
[45:15] dollar about her lawsuit and
[45:19] are asking one 80 by ministry
[45:19] actually kill the current
[45:23] permit using illicit counties,
[45:24] pending ordinance doctor and
[45:27] to freeze new corporate tech
[45:28] team today and reading
[45:29] targeted infrastructures and
[45:31] wellfield that actions and are
[45:32] asking for tomorrow and
[45:35] protect to stop for a secure
[45:36] real results. One unified down
[45:38] land development code and are
[45:39] skilled a nurse to
[45:43] nondisclosure agreements don't
[45:43] allow don't approve the staff
[45:44] center application reversed
[45:45] administrative approval
[45:49] process. Within island about
[45:51] coach change this ac
[45:53] commercial and or industrial
[45:54] lands basically an ordinance
[45:55] creating a permanent ban for
[45:57] all north presenting district
[45:59] concerned about the water use
[45:59] electricity demand quality of
[46:00] life preserving our
[46:01] communities make the right
[46:02] choice. When series see
[46:08] dorian. Please more and more
[46:09] development without first
[46:09] addressing the problems
[46:11] created by road we already
[46:12] have north port does not need
[46:15] to keep adding housing and
[46:16] expanding development happened
[46:17] infrastructure schools and
[46:18] public services are still
[46:19] trying to catch up residents
[46:22] who already live here should
[46:22] be the priority I do not
[46:23] support expanding all part by
[46:24] another 81 acres until the
[46:26] city can show base. That's
[46:27] surrounding infrastructure can
[46:35] surely handle additional I was
[46:36] the mayor 100 be built in port
[46:37] at the commission meeting last
[46:38] week numerous residents were
[46:39] very vocal about thinking up
[46:44] center's in port that's
[46:45] terrible out also expressed
[46:46] unhappiness with the fact that
[46:47] someone at city hall
[46:48] apparently up for best inside
[46:49] also the residents were kept
[46:50] in the dark for a year or
[46:52] more. This is no way to govern
[46:54] the city the data center will
[46:55] without a doubt that port
[46:55] residents and for
[47:01] contaminated. Our white strong
[47:03] national cars there and
[47:05] isolation and lead to
[47:06] everybody you all need to say
[47:10] now the stupid thank you all
[47:11] I'm not necessarily husband
[47:12] but I strongly believe that
[47:15] the proposed site is wrong if
[47:15] we must have then building in
[47:16] the middle of nowhere
[47:19] somewhere between here which
[47:21] rachel the citizens of north
[47:22] port and not a implement
[47:26] implementation of the a. Sam
[47:27] dean martin now good morning
[47:29] commissioners, my name is sam,
[47:31] I'm commenting today with the
[47:31] director for this time as we
[47:32] demand the immediate drought I
[47:35] had a permanent wellfield
[47:37] protection ordinances directly
[47:39] into our land development
[47:42] regulations senate bill for we
[47:43] are with the ministry delays
[47:44] 12 month study task force or
[47:44] legally risky moratoriums that
[47:48] trigger multi-million dollar
[47:49] over lawsuits under additional
[47:51] pending war doctor you have
[47:52] the legal authority right now
[47:54] to officially announce were
[47:54] dropped in these water
[47:55] protections insulate freezing
[47:57] any new hyperscale data center
[47:58] applications from sneaking
[48:00] into wars the political and
[48:01] has dropped today and the
[48:01] community is tracking exactly
[48:05] reach a new stance. For is
[48:07] facing an industrial station,
[48:08] a stop playing defense protect
[48:09] wellfields here's sb 48 for
[48:10] and protect florida's water
[48:15] right now. Stop my name is
[48:17] like to thank commissioner
[48:22] stokes 2610 5126 1023 2610 22
[48:24] 26 time 51 please consider
[48:25] protecting our friend around a
[48:26] lot noise and air pollution
[48:28] and protecting wildlife
[48:30] habitat, even though that
[48:34] senator have a pr stunt scheme
[48:35] to lure you as we found last
[48:37] week's meeting there are
[48:38] several a reminder of one of
[48:39] the presenter stated that
[48:40] there could be 2200 to 506
[48:42] figure jobs as a result of
[48:44] building. But asked to provide
[48:45] commissioners about could not
[48:48] provide any statistics that
[48:50] were factual 2610 23 nda
[48:51] should not be allowed under
[48:52] the sunshine law that allows
[48:53] access to information to
[48:54] protect government from the
[48:58] deceptive practices and
[48:59] procedures, 2610 22
[49:01] administrative approval needs
[49:01] to revert back to the hands of
[49:02] the commissioners as they were
[49:06] elected by the resident of the
[49:08] city that they now ask for and
[49:09] those represent staff and
[49:10] other point in individual
[49:12] should work with the
[49:12] commissioners as they
[49:13] represent the will of the
[49:15] residents and not any agenda
[49:16] staff maybe brining
[49:16] individuals that they have no
[49:17] way out into the residence.
[49:18] Thank you for your time and
[49:18] consideration. That's all
[49:39] there. For months city clerk.
[49:40] The current vacancies for the
[49:41] following boards and
[49:42] committees include our
[49:43] investment for selection
[49:45] committee charter review
[49:46] advisory board citizens tax
[49:47] oversight committee community
[49:49] economic development advisory
[49:50] board environmental advisory
[49:52] board joint management
[49:54] advisory recreation advisory
[49:56] board and planning and zoning
[49:57] advisory board if anyone would
[49:57] like more information please
[49:58] see the city clerk's office
[50:03] thank you.
[50:03] >> thank you. Okay we're going
[50:04] to move to the consent city
[50:08] manager any of vote.
[50:25] >> you 26 stash.
[50:25] Have public
[50:28] comment city clerk, I'm going
[50:32] to request a motion.
[50:35] >> and get MISTER Mayor go
[50:39] ahead I move to approve the
[50:41] consent agenda, pulling which
[50:42] is 26 dash 1062 for
[50:45] discussion.
[50:46] >> thank you have a motion on
[50:50] the floor made vice seconded
[50:53] have a second by commissioner
[50:54] for discussion that there's
[50:57] nothing to that please
[51:03] and that passes 5, city
[51:04] manager who pull out of you.
[51:07] Commissioner better.
[51:09] Commissioner floor is yours
[51:12] for discussion.
[51:12] >> I just was is discussed the
[51:17] sighting. To find out more
[51:21] details about specific request
[51:27] questions are. Every call.
[51:32] From the the cycle 2526 fiscal
[51:37] year. Quest for high water
[51:38] vehicle it
[51:44] we didn't approve that amount
[51:45] when I
[51:48] saw I just want to find out.
[51:56] What to with and was found
[51:57] most purchased or was it
[51:58] something so just more
[52:00] clarification if you so if you
[52:10] can. If the staff can address
[52:13] >> orange county's fire chief
[52:14] or for cheap really talk to
[52:14] the details. But yes that was
[52:17] funded this is separate
[52:18] vehicle. So we've been working
[52:18] with france
[52:23] JULY 2.
[52:26] >> curly deputy fire chief
[52:28] high water vehicle that's in
[52:30] this year's budget was ordered
[52:31] its not do until the
[52:32] >> latter end of 2027 that's
[52:36] when it will arrive. We also
[52:38] sought out for a second high
[52:40] water vehicle which we saw
[52:42] grant which was partially
[52:43] funding the high water vehicle
[52:44] to cvg worker financing grants
[52:49] on that that's what fy 20
[52:50] seven's budget. This agenda
[52:51] item is authorization to use
[52:53] the piggy back to purchase set
[52:57] vehicle.
[52:57] >> for him use those grant
[53:02] money use it that's just I'm
[53:03] sorry to hear if we don't use
[53:05] amount that has been approved
[53:12] by a grant. We use money what
[53:14] would to put together specific
[53:15] second turnover the grants but
[53:16] we have a signed agreement
[53:16] that came to commission a
[53:18] earlier in the year.
[53:23] >> for the approval for this
[53:24] grant. So we're moving forward
[53:27] with that process and would be
[53:29] I'm the next fiscal year. But
[53:35] if we do not. Prove this
[53:36] pathway for the purchase of
[53:37] that vehicle that yes there
[53:41] would be a loss of grant
[53:41] funding.
[53:44] >> you we have in the city.
[53:46] >> so we've been dual purpose
[53:48] saying our brush trucks for
[53:49] also for high water vehicles
[53:52] these would be the first to of
[53:53] these kind of this kind so
[53:56] we're replacing one that we've
[53:57] been borrowing that vehicle
[53:58] through florida forest
[53:59] service. But we had a lot of
[54:03] mechanical issues with it. The
[54:04] other one that we're
[54:05] purchasing is new so we would
[54:06] essentially we would end up
[54:08] with 3 of you.
[54:13] >> from what I understand
[54:14] police department has its own
[54:17] or no public works they have
[54:18] similar.
[54:19] >> I can't speak to what the
[54:20] police department asked for
[54:23] high water vehicles, but when
[54:24] an event happens the fire
[54:25] department takes over
[54:27] operational control of all
[54:29] high water rescue vehicle
[54:31] operations whether it be for
[54:32] evacuations or but I can speak
[54:36] to the vehicles that we have.
[54:37] >> so in the city we do know
[54:39] we do not know how many high
[54:41] water because we I know the
[54:43] fire department has 3 I
[54:43] believe that police department
[54:45] has sought they have their
[54:48] bear cat and I can deputy
[54:50] rouse speak to assets that
[54:52] they use for access to flooded
[54:54] areas for law enforcement
[54:55] protections, but for fire we'd
[55:01] be looking to have 3. Scott
[55:01] from district make an
[55:06] important clarification so. As
[55:08] chief hurley said in the past
[55:08] we've used to brush trucks
[55:09] that we get from forestry, we
[55:11] use them to access high water
[55:12] areas. They're not designed or
[55:15] built for that so we've done
[55:18] that because it wasn't in the
[55:20] sesame but I can tell it
[55:22] causes a tremendous amount of
[55:22] damage water intrusion into
[55:23] the actions and to out lots
[55:26] and lots of problems. Often
[55:26] times we've had breakdowns
[55:30] partially part way through an
[55:31] event and pretty significant
[55:32] repairs. Afterwards on because
[55:34] that are very difficult to get
[55:36] parts for the vehicles that
[55:36] were getting when we purchase
[55:39] last year and couldn't grant
[55:41] for their specifically
[55:42] designed and purpose to be
[55:44] high water vehicles so the
[55:45] actions are water fjord cats
[55:46] they're they're designed for
[55:49] this purpose. Fire rescue's
[55:52] purpose and mission is for
[55:54] rescue that's what we police
[55:56] department has high water
[55:56] vehicles for certain things
[55:59] but that is to get out out to
[56:00] areas that are flooded, they
[56:01] can do what their job which
[56:01] dropped the primary purposes
[56:02] is not rescue same month. Any
[56:05] other department that has high
[56:08] water vehicle particularly
[56:10] purpose for them access areas
[56:11] perform their duties if those
[56:12] vehicles are available during
[56:15] storm or event. And we can
[56:15] borrow them and put them under
[56:16] our mission as part of our
[56:18] rescue do that. Different
[56:21] apartments have them because
[56:22] utilities still needs to
[56:25] access areas that are our
[56:26] flood to get to areas. The
[56:26] police department still needs
[56:29] to access areas well and make
[56:30] sure that people are breaking
[56:31] into houses and flooded areas
[56:41] or to helps clear.
[56:42] >> warren commission deputy
[56:43] chief morales that he answered
[56:44] questions, currently right now
[56:47] the police only has one which
[56:48] is the bearcat which has its
[56:50] limitations that can only try
[56:52] to rub traversed about 4 feet
[56:54] of water with the startling it
[56:55] has its limitations but we did
[56:56] have in this budget coming in
[57:00] here. We did. I will high
[57:02] water vehicle that we're
[57:02] seeking for through a law
[57:05] enforcement impact fees.
[57:12] >> public
[57:13] >> speak our structure we have
[57:13] high water vehicle that we use
[57:14] for recovery of like the
[57:19] calls. Worst that either
[57:19] deployed and get stranded or
[57:20] get stranded for some other
[57:30] reason.
[57:31] >> coming the end, but you
[57:34] know we as a city this entire
[57:39] organization we have to be you
[57:44] know embrace that concept
[57:47] sharing the resources do so.
[57:49] Guess this purchase
[57:50] specifically because it was.
[57:56] To grants and thank you. Think
[58:03] that department for division.
[58:04] Thank there's nobody else so
[58:14] look for a motion. I move to
[58:16] the utilization of so spread
[58:18] of contract number 0, 3, 2, 8,
[58:23] 2, 4, dash c e r with
[58:24] certified staying less service
[58:28] dba was smart for the one-time
[58:30] purchase. A high water rescue
[58:36] vehicle and fiscal year 2027.
[58:36] Utilizing sarasota county
[58:40] community development block
[58:40] grant funding. In an amount
[58:49] not to exceed $478,000 $823
[58:50] motion on the floor made by
[58:52] vice mayor seconded by
[58:53] commissioner
[58:58] >> there's nothing to vote.
[59:02] Old too
[59:11] public hearings. This is a
[59:11] digitial and I request a
[59:12] motion to direct the city
[59:16] clerk to read by title so
[59:17] floor made by commissioner
[59:19] stow seconded by vice mayor
[59:26] there's nothing to bo. And
[59:28] that passes 5, 0, city
[59:32] ordinance number 2026 just 22.
[59:34] >> and ordinance of the fl
[59:36] approving petition number pmc
[59:39] pa dash 25 dash 0, 3, 5, 6, 0,
[59:40] 2, men in the village village
[59:42] district pattern plan west
[59:46] villages ak part 2 update
[59:48] non-residential last time
[59:49] regulations and establish
[59:51] consistent definitions for
[59:52] public institutional uses and
[59:54] civic spaces amending section
[59:55] 4003.1 of the unified land
[59:56] development code uldc to
[59:59] incorporate them ended pattern
[1:00:00] plan reference amending
[1:00:04] section 3005.2 with the uldc
[1:00:06] to require village, the wall
[1:00:07] signs to comply with the uldc
[1:00:10] chapter 5 standards and to
[1:00:11] provide deemed compliance and
[1:00:12] legal non-conforming status
[1:00:13] for certain existing signs
[1:00:14] providing for findings
[1:00:14] providing for adoption
[1:00:17] providing for complex complex
[1:00:17] severability codification
[1:00:21] effective date. There have
[1:00:23] been no the party status
[1:00:24] requests received for this one
[1:00:25] and can everyone wishing
[1:00:26] provide testimony please stand
[1:00:31] raise your right hand. You
[1:00:31] swear or affirm that the
[1:00:32] testimony you're about to
[1:00:33] provide you and sure to best
[1:00:33] you're not stopping to thank
[1:00:39] you. Thank you
[1:00:40] >> I'm looking for a parte
[1:00:42] communications commissioner
[1:00:45] >> only played. Stations the
[1:00:52] staff during job.
[1:00:54] >> nothing I have nothing but
[1:00:55] for commissioner petro that's
[1:00:56] my agenda briefing going with
[1:01:00] that agenda and if you.
[1:01:11] Presentation by applicant.
[1:01:12] >> jones senior vice PRESIDENT
[1:01:13] With well in part and I have
[1:01:18] been sworn. The nexus of this
[1:01:25] request actually came out the
[1:01:26] ppp amendment will be the next
[1:01:30] slide item village e. Point a
[1:01:30] couple years or you may
[1:01:34] remember that estimates
[1:01:35] requested that they be
[1:01:36] included in our village ev dpp
[1:01:40] because they are.
[1:01:41] >> 28 acre site was not big
[1:01:41] enough to qualify for of the
[1:01:45] tpp. What we realized working
[1:01:48] through those nuances with
[1:01:49] each since a semi just happen
[1:01:52] clean a governmental agency.
[1:01:54] They would basically be exempt
[1:01:57] from certain signs like
[1:02:00] lesions so the nexus of
[1:02:01] changes actually a g 8 has
[1:02:05] already built emergency says
[1:02:05] all room in well-lit parking
[1:02:08] and bought 30 acres to build
[1:02:09] hospital. So there's a
[1:02:10] potential down the road for 2
[1:02:12] hospitals be a mile apart with
[1:02:16] 2 different signage standard.
[1:02:16] So we started the process and
[1:02:18] was agreed upon point to
[1:02:21] update to the dpp so both
[1:02:23] hospitals would operate the
[1:02:24] same. Under the same
[1:02:28] guidelines. Through that was
[1:02:29] other things that staff run-up
[1:02:32] just cleanup of the original
[1:02:33] bpp so with that I'm going to
[1:02:34] the presentation over that's
[1:02:38] when ski a planner from stan
[1:02:39] who actually did the blocking
[1:02:41] tackling and prepared to the
[1:02:42] dpp amendment. But it really
[1:02:42] started with just one that
[1:02:46] clean up the front. The book
[1:02:48] that we have that we work with
[1:03:04] him down south thank
[1:03:05] >> do have apartment
[1:03:12] presentation of it pull thank
[1:03:23] I expand. So the whole show
[1:03:37] one.
[1:03:37] >> it so that you need to do
[1:03:42] is you gotta start home. Okay
[1:03:44] I don't know.
[1:03:49] >> farm okay for everybody
[1:03:50] okay good morning, everyone.
[1:03:51] My name is hannah smolinski
[1:03:52] I'm a planner stand tech and i
[1:03:56] have been sworn. I'm here to
[1:03:56] present an amendment to the
[1:03:57] village village district
[1:04:00] pattern plan. I'm here to
[1:04:05] applicants on the this is a
[1:04:06] two-part application
[1:04:07] consisting of a village
[1:04:08] district pattern plan
[1:04:09] amendment and a uldc text
[1:04:14] amendment. Is located within
[1:04:15] baldwin park within the
[1:04:18] southwest quadrant of us 41
[1:04:20] and west villages parkway and
[1:04:25] it's approximately 595 a
[1:04:27] little bit of background, the
[1:04:30] ppp was originally adopted in
[1:04:32] SEPTEMBER of 2017 since not
[1:04:34] adoption. It's been amended
[1:04:37] twice first and MAY of
[1:04:37] recommendations for mobile
[1:04:38] food dispensing vehicles and
[1:04:42] commercial floating docks and
[1:04:43] modifying people for the
[1:04:44] second amendment was in APRIL
[1:04:48] of 2023 to revise minimum
[1:04:48] parking standards to include a
[1:04:50] provision to modify parking
[1:04:53] standards on a case-by-case
[1:04:54] basis and to provide parking
[1:04:55] standards not otherwise
[1:05:00] specified. A component of this
[1:05:02] amendment is updating language
[1:05:05] with section 4013003.1 of the
[1:05:08] pattern plan. The existing
[1:05:10] language related to science
[1:05:11] standards and review criteria
[1:05:12] is being changed to science
[1:05:17] standards and review shown on
[1:05:18] this slide the updated from
[1:05:19] which treats not all sides
[1:05:22] must comply with standards
[1:05:22] established in the uldc and be
[1:05:23] approved by the restaurant
[1:05:24] just review committee. Prior
[1:05:29] to city review. As it relates
[1:05:30] the building was signed to the
[1:05:32] practice has been updated all
[1:05:35] building wall sine shall
[1:05:36] comply with chapter 5 of the
[1:05:38] uldc and the advent of any
[1:05:39] conflicts between the pot plan
[1:05:40] and the uldc the uldc standard
[1:05:45] shall prevail. Another
[1:05:49] amendment to section relates
[1:05:53] to signage design and
[1:05:53] installation standards shown
[1:05:56] on this slide, this section is
[1:05:57] proposed to be removed from
[1:05:57] the pattern plan and instead
[1:06:00] refers to maintaining
[1:06:01] compliance section 13 of
[1:06:04] district pot and vote the
[1:06:06] existing language on the part
[1:06:08] of plan is similar to the
[1:06:09] standards within the pattern
[1:06:12] about this amendment would
[1:06:13] reduce redundancy and offering
[1:06:14] more consistent review process
[1:06:17] for staff. And it looks like
[1:06:18] my computers and comment
[1:06:19] during a level ended
[1:06:24] statement.
[1:06:26] >> yeah, I think it took
[1:06:30] control of want share now.
[1:06:42] Yeah, I'm gonna take it off.
[1:06:59] >> help is on the way. Not so
[1:07:14] thank
[1:07:20] I can now
[1:07:21] all right. I'm just going to
[1:07:26] keep
[1:07:29] >> lastly we're also adding
[1:07:30] the definition for public
[1:07:31] institutional uses and civic
[1:07:32] spaces into this pattern plan
[1:07:36] to provide consistency across
[1:07:37] all dpp's as john previously
[1:07:41] stated definition it's already
[1:07:41] included in pryor a potted
[1:07:42] plants are adding get into
[1:07:45] this one as well. The second
[1:07:48] part of the amendment is the
[1:07:48] uldc parks amendment and the
[1:07:51] purpose is to c between the
[1:07:56] pollen plan and the uldc. As
[1:07:58] shown on this site section
[1:07:59] 3005.2 of the code is being
[1:07:59] amended to match the language
[1:08:04] within the pattern on
[1:08:05] amendment is necessary to make
[1:08:05] consistency between the
[1:08:06] pattern plan for village d and
[1:08:10] the uldc. There numerous
[1:08:13] benefits to this amendment,
[1:08:14] including simplifying staff
[1:08:18] review up signs up for village
[1:08:19] and serves the public interest
[1:08:20] and support access to
[1:08:22] essential services such as
[1:08:24] medical facilities provides
[1:08:24] consistency between the power
[1:08:28] plant and the uldc it causes
[1:08:29] no harm to adjacent properties
[1:08:32] road networks are emergency
[1:08:33] access. And it maintains
[1:08:34] architectural compatibility
[1:08:35] through the restaurant just
[1:08:38] review committee review. With
[1:08:38] that we ask for your approval.
[1:08:44] Thank you.
[1:08:59] >> thank
[1:09:02] >> please it don't take
[1:09:15] control. I don't know working
[1:09:20] good morning. Commissioners.
[1:09:21] >> for the record sherry well
[1:09:22] that grant planner 3 planning
[1:09:23] and zoning does of vision and
[1:09:27] I have been sworn. So has
[1:09:28] presented and it put thank
[1:09:30] you. So this is we're
[1:09:34] discussing the village the
[1:09:38] village district pattern plan
[1:09:39] amendment. It is petition
[1:09:44] number pm cpa 25 dash 0, 3, 5,
[1:09:51] 6, 0, the ordinance 2026, 22.
[1:09:53] Okay some highlights of
[1:09:56] applicant is katie of of icp
[1:10:00] stantec consulting services
[1:10:01] the owner is main street light
[1:10:05] ranch the property is located
[1:10:06] west help west villages
[1:10:11] parkway in south of us 41.
[1:10:13] Proximate property sizes
[1:10:16] 595.21 total acres. So with
[1:10:21] the village it comprises of
[1:10:22] the downtown area if you're
[1:10:26] familiar with the area. It's
[1:10:27] home, with the downtown and
[1:10:28] the fire station is where the
[1:10:31] big lake just so that there is
[1:10:32] some contacts so the purpose
[1:10:34] of this application as stated
[1:10:36] by the applicant is to
[1:10:38] standardize the sign
[1:10:39] regulations by adopting the
[1:10:40] 2024 unified land development
[1:10:46] code chapter 5. And then we
[1:10:48] also have amend section 3005.2
[1:10:54] of the uldc. This is
[1:10:57] concerning all non residential
[1:11:00] wall are also amending the
[1:11:01] village gdp to clarify very
[1:11:03] specifically that the unified
[1:11:04] land development code will
[1:11:04] take precedence over the
[1:11:09] village district pattern plan
[1:11:11] and the applicant is required
[1:11:14] the wbrc a profile so the wbrc
[1:11:17] is the west village's review
[1:11:17] committee is outside of the
[1:11:18] city is their review committee
[1:11:24] for their design standards.
[1:11:26] They and also they have to
[1:11:27] have the approval for all
[1:11:28] signage before it goes to
[1:11:30] building permit for city
[1:11:34] approval. In addition to that
[1:11:35] definitions have been updated
[1:11:39] to included public
[1:11:40] institutional uses and civic
[1:11:42] spaces in the village dvd pay
[1:11:43] this is consistent consistent
[1:11:43] with the village district
[1:11:48] pattern plan. Also to
[1:11:50] establish legal nonconforming
[1:11:50] status for all signage legally
[1:11:54] permitted or installed before
[1:11:56] the ordinance is effective day
[1:11:58] and what does that mean so
[1:12:00] once the ordinance becomes
[1:12:02] effective any new signage will
[1:12:03] have to comply with the
[1:12:04] chapter 5 of the unified land
[1:12:08] development code for signage.
[1:12:10] A pivot use be a provision has
[1:12:12] been placed in for signs that
[1:12:15] have been legally permitted
[1:12:16] legally installed that they
[1:12:17] can continue without creating
[1:12:19] any issues for any of the
[1:12:24] owners to come into compliance
[1:12:25] also in evaluating that we
[1:12:26] wanted to have that provision
[1:12:31] just in case. Any of the signs
[1:12:32] now our chapter 5 in the
[1:12:36] unified land development code
[1:12:39] is more flexible than the
[1:12:39] provisions that they currently
[1:12:40] have in the village dvd pp
[1:12:44] they're very restrictive and
[1:12:45] what they did and also this
[1:12:49] would bring a consistency. For
[1:12:51] all signage. In addition we
[1:12:53] will have to amend section
[1:12:57] 4003.1 of the uldc to
[1:12:58] reference the village g
[1:12:59] village district pattern plan
[1:13:01] so our current uldc has a
[1:13:03] listing of all of the villages
[1:13:04] the history and all of the
[1:13:08] ordinances so. When wendy if
[1:13:10] this is approved by the city
[1:13:12] commission and that will
[1:13:13] automatically update unified
[1:13:18] land development code. So it
[1:13:20] was previously stated there is
[1:13:25] a long approval regarding this
[1:13:28] particular village. So 2017
[1:13:29] SEPTEMBER 26, the original
[1:13:33] villages town centered village
[1:13:36] was approved in 2021 there
[1:13:38] were the provisions to ask for
[1:13:41] food trucks to regulate mobile
[1:13:43] food, commercial docks
[1:13:45] landscape buffers we did not
[1:13:48] have any provisions of code at
[1:13:50] that time to allow for those
[1:13:52] mobile food vendors or for a
[1:13:57] commercial law. APRIL 2520 23.
[1:13:59] Another man that was bought to
[1:14:00] commission to adjust parking
[1:14:02] standards on a case-by-case
[1:14:03] basis. So I'd like to explain
[1:14:06] that a little bit our current
[1:14:08] unified land development if
[1:14:10] there is a for parking that's
[1:14:15] not explicitly stated how many
[1:14:17] parking spaces. Up they can
[1:14:18] administrative approval by a
[1:14:21] transportation expert showing.
[1:14:25] But if there's needs to be a
[1:14:25] reduction or increase in
[1:14:26] parking it has to be
[1:14:26] justified. There has to be
[1:14:30] data that supports that so
[1:14:32] this is very similar to that
[1:14:34] this is not we're not changing
[1:14:35] that in plan it will continue
[1:14:43] on. So the application details
[1:14:44] the timeline this application
[1:14:45] was submitted AUGUST 25th
[1:14:50] 2025. And again to amend the
[1:14:52] village d the tpp concerning
[1:15:01] what I just explained. So site
[1:15:02] informations to be a future
[1:15:04] land use map is village of the
[1:15:04] which is the village
[1:15:06] designation as well as the
[1:15:10] zoning the existing land uses
[1:15:11] is a recreation and cultural
[1:15:11] events and mixed use
[1:15:15] comprising of commercial
[1:15:17] multi. Family development also
[1:15:26] a hotel on the site here. This
[1:15:30] has undergone multi department
[1:15:31] review with in every area of
[1:15:33] with the development review
[1:15:35] committee. So a lot of the
[1:15:36] staff with you because this is
[1:15:40] not related to changing of any
[1:15:43] land use or construction
[1:15:44] element it simply adopting and
[1:15:47] incorporating our signage so
[1:15:50] there were no for parks and
[1:15:53] rec and then there were no
[1:15:54] responses there's no response
[1:15:54] is it meant that the reviewer
[1:15:58] had no comments or concerns,
[1:15:59] especially for storm water
[1:16:01] they had no response there is
[1:16:02] no changes to storm water with
[1:16:03] this amendment or any thing
[1:16:06] like as I previously stated
[1:16:06] regarding development of the
[1:16:13] site. So in order to evaluate
[1:16:13] things we have to make sure
[1:16:14] this complies with consistency
[1:16:17] with our city our
[1:16:17] comprehensive plan. Also the
[1:16:22] unified land development code.
[1:16:23] So the proposed amendment does
[1:16:24] align with the comprehensive
[1:16:26] plan, the future land use go
[1:16:29] by creating consistent unified
[1:16:31] science standards that will
[1:16:32] minimize visual blight safety
[1:16:35] hazards in regulatory
[1:16:36] conflict. Furthermore the
[1:16:40] amenity hears policy 5.1
[1:16:42] subsection f by updating
[1:16:44] village g sign regulations to
[1:16:46] meet citywide standards while
[1:16:47] protecting existing businesses
[1:16:48] through a deemed compliance
[1:16:53] mechanism permitted
[1:16:54] non-residential while signage
[1:16:55] and I do want to emphasize
[1:16:56] that end it is only the flick
[1:17:03] to all signage. Legal review
[1:17:06] in the business impact
[1:17:08] statement ordinance 2026 dash
[1:17:10] 22 which is a company in your
[1:17:12] packet with all the has been
[1:17:14] reviewed and approved by the
[1:17:14] city attorney's office and is
[1:17:18] legally correct asked to form
[1:17:20] pursuant to florida statute
[1:17:24] section 1, 6, 6.0 4 one
[1:17:26] foresee a business impact
[1:17:27] statement was not required
[1:17:27] because ordinance is enacted
[1:17:32] to implement the comprehensive
[1:17:32] plan amendment.
[1:17:33] >> in the land development
[1:17:35] regulations initiated by
[1:17:36] applicant I private party at
[1:17:41] holiday. Statutory compliance
[1:17:46] in concurrence uldc
[1:17:46] amendments.
[1:17:47] >> so the current uldc if
[1:17:48] you're doing master concept
[1:17:53] plan.
[1:17:53] >> it is it is there's a
[1:17:55] little bit of a difference in
[1:17:56] how process that's process by
[1:17:57] resolution it also comes
[1:18:00] before the commission. However
[1:18:02] we do not have an
[1:18:03] administrative a mechanism for
[1:18:05] this because it was the
[1:18:07] pattern plan adopted by
[1:18:07] ordinance so we're amending it
[1:18:12] as a master concept plan
[1:18:12] amendment. However, ordinances
[1:18:15] or resolutions cannot
[1:18:18] ordinance so the original
[1:18:18] approval in subsequent
[1:18:19] approvals were by ordinance
[1:18:20] that's why this is presented
[1:18:23] to commission by ordinance. In
[1:18:24] addition to the ordinance is a
[1:18:27] dual purpose vehicle, not only
[1:18:30] does it and then the pattern
[1:18:30] plan it also amends the
[1:18:31] unified land development code
[1:18:34] section to incorporate by
[1:18:38] reference this pattern plan.
[1:18:38] Noticing public notice
[1:18:42] requirements were met they
[1:18:44] have to follow the florida
[1:18:48] statutes section 1, 6, 6.0 4,
[1:18:51] 1, 3 and section 7.0 1 c
[1:18:51] of north port city charter
[1:18:55] needing ordinances highest.
[1:18:57] >> 10 days prior to adoption
[1:18:59] and also notices were mailed
[1:19:01] to the owner the property
[1:19:02] owners within the 1320 feet
[1:19:09] buffer radius as required.
[1:19:09] This item was presented before
[1:19:11] the planning and zoning
[1:19:16] advisory board 7/16/2020
[1:19:16] cents. The board voted 5, 0
[1:19:20] unanimously to approve these
[1:19:22] amendments. So staff based on
[1:19:23] the information provided is on
[1:19:27] asking the commission to
[1:19:28] consider and moving the item
[1:19:34] to second meeting, thank you.
[1:19:40] >> thank rebuttal applicant.
[1:19:46] There's no staff.
[1:19:46] >> thank staff has no
[1:19:49] rebuttal, thank you thank you.
[1:19:53] >> city public that.
[1:19:54] >> commission questions
[1:19:58] discussions
[1:19:58] >> commissioner thank you
[1:20:02] mayor.
[1:20:07] >> and this is just 2. Oh I
[1:20:09] think or signage matches and
[1:20:11] par with the rest of are
[1:20:17] citing or c. Well I questions
[1:20:22] causes. One of the last ones
[1:20:26] to preserve them. So that you
[1:20:30] only see you met in 2. 2 of
[1:20:34] are we addressing that.
[1:20:35] >> so how that was stated in a
[1:20:39] perhaps again explain it so
[1:20:40] our old unified land
[1:20:41] development code when the
[1:20:42] pattern plans were not to have
[1:20:46] specific outline for the
[1:20:47] pattern plan. We do not have
[1:20:49] new plans and a unified land
[1:20:50] development code any new
[1:20:53] village district is created by
[1:20:57] a master concept plan. It's
[1:20:58] the same premises but tricky
[1:21:00] part that we had with this is
[1:21:01] because it's adopted by
[1:21:04] ordinance we have to follow
[1:21:06] the ordinance and at least the
[1:21:08] noticing requirements does
[1:21:08] that answer your question I
[1:21:11] hope.
[1:21:16] >> well I'm getting at is.
[1:21:17] >> so we've into this in the
[1:21:21] future we have plans amend our
[1:21:24] uldc it wouldn't be necessary
[1:21:25] to do so so the what I mean
[1:21:27] that the unified land
[1:21:28] development code does not have
[1:21:29] the mechanism it doesn't have
[1:21:30] mechanism that the old uldc
[1:21:34] had to amend plans. So what we
[1:21:36] are doing is we're calling him
[1:21:39] master concept plan, it's the
[1:21:40] same and it's the approval is
[1:21:45] following the same as it was.
[1:21:47] >> so in the future when get a
[1:21:48] new village you would not have
[1:21:51] the pattern plan.
[1:21:52] >> she would not be creating a
[1:21:54] pattern plan like you had
[1:21:56] field coach. It would be a
[1:21:57] master concept plan and it
[1:22:00] would be called village and it
[1:22:03] would follow that process by
[1:22:04] resolution okay. Thank you for
[1:22:07] them, the other
[1:22:08] >> on slide state of the
[1:22:12] senate bill. This establishes
[1:22:15] non-compliance us. Signage
[1:22:21] that. Was there before the
[1:22:28] stewardess went into effect.
[1:22:30] >> so mean what's the not
[1:22:30] apply school site will be
[1:22:34] changed to meet the cold so.
[1:22:34] >> the provision that we put
[1:22:39] in to have that standards for
[1:22:39] compliance. If they didn't
[1:22:40] have a permit application and
[1:22:43] house at time when this was
[1:22:47] adopted it would still be
[1:22:48] deemed compliant. So the
[1:22:49] provision would be
[1:22:54] >> and also for the legal
[1:22:55] nonconforming status. We
[1:22:58] wanted to incorporate also any
[1:22:59] signs that are not legally
[1:23:04] compliant not conforming after
[1:23:04] the day then they would have
[1:23:05] to follow the provisions of
[1:23:06] the unified land development
[1:23:07] code for non conformance we
[1:23:11] wanted to put that in there
[1:23:13] because we did not want to
[1:23:15] have signs that are already
[1:23:18] through the process bd
[1:23:19] noncompliance then they would
[1:23:21] have to as you said bring it
[1:23:22] in to conformance and that's
[1:23:23] what that provision is not
[1:23:25] would be included.
[1:23:31] >> thank you very well, so
[1:23:34] >> thank you vice MISTER Mayor
[1:23:35] I have a quick question from
[1:23:39] missile so so that I
[1:23:45] understand sarasota memorial
[1:23:51] hospital. At while in park
[1:23:54] will operate under the same
[1:23:55] sign sarasota memorial
[1:23:59] hospital on sumpter and that
[1:23:59] will be a specified in our
[1:24:04] uldc is that correct.
[1:24:05] >> so the sarasota memorial
[1:24:05] hospital is not related to
[1:24:09] village g it's actually we can
[1:24:11] discuss it with the village e
[1:24:12] that's incorporated the
[1:24:15] sarasota memorial hospital
[1:24:17] pace. So those regulations in
[1:24:19] their for their signs for
[1:24:20] institutional are in there. So
[1:24:25] the sarasota memorial hospital
[1:24:27] on a sumpter they went through
[1:24:29] development master plan
[1:24:30] process here with the
[1:24:31] commission and part of that
[1:24:32] the commission approved
[1:24:35] waivers for their signage
[1:24:37] because it is an institutional
[1:24:38] use to be did not have
[1:24:40] anything in our uldc at that
[1:24:41] time so that will be their
[1:24:45] governing document, okay.
[1:24:46] >> and then what is
[1:24:47] implication for hca when they
[1:24:51] build their hospital.
[1:24:52] >> so with this if age to able
[1:24:56] to adhere with the signage
[1:24:58] following the uldc we have the
[1:25:02] for that it would be included.
[1:25:05] There are more signage allowed
[1:25:09] also if it's defined as an
[1:25:10] institutional use government
[1:25:11] I'm not sure what that
[1:25:13] designation would they're
[1:25:15] exempt from the signage so I
[1:25:15] can't evaluate at that time I
[1:25:18] know that following what their
[1:25:22] uldc the new current does have
[1:25:25] more on mount signage allowed.
[1:25:26] >> and what the okay, thank
[1:25:32] you're very welcome.
[1:25:35] >> yes it thank you all
[1:25:37] commissioner stowers very
[1:25:38] briefly basically the idea was
[1:25:41] to create a compatibility so
[1:25:46] that west that's age hca built
[1:25:47] little ys in this village
[1:25:47] bayside is needs to be
[1:25:48] consistent that's the whole I
[1:25:54] it. Pretty much. It says yes.
[1:25:58] But it is.
[1:26:00] >> sure you just explain that
[1:26:01] does not preclude either
[1:26:05] estimation village age will of
[1:26:09] h and built up that are coming
[1:26:11] in asking for a way fix but
[1:26:13] right now we've now set the
[1:26:19] ground. The baseline same
[1:26:22] >> all
[1:26:28] >> okay go thank you. MISTER
[1:26:30] Brzezinski remember when we
[1:26:31] just asked this issue quite a
[1:26:38] while. There was a
[1:26:39] disagreement between. The dpp
[1:26:43] and sarasota memorial. At
[1:26:45] wellen park regarding their
[1:26:48] signs. At the direction of the
[1:26:49] commission at that point in
[1:26:56] time. Was to request that w
[1:26:58] damien dpp in sarasota
[1:27:00] memorial with the help of
[1:27:03] staff. Reconcile their
[1:27:07] differences regarding signage.
[1:27:08] Am I understanding correctly
[1:27:13] that these changes. Address
[1:27:13] that to spew are is there work
[1:27:17] to be
[1:27:18] >> no there's no more work to
[1:27:20] be that was all team, a lift
[1:27:20] more than signage if you
[1:27:27] remember. 8, 1, to be part of
[1:27:31] the you know village evp. But
[1:27:34] they did not want to. Maker
[1:27:39] the architecture standards
[1:27:39] more proven well in part said
[1:27:42] no we're not going to do what
[1:27:47] we we agree. Memorial was
[1:27:48] without some since series of
[1:27:52] design guidelines. Is that you
[1:27:53] know we basically said if you
[1:27:53] build this the venice hospital
[1:27:57] we would approve it right but
[1:27:59] they're like we don't know
[1:28:00] what technological changes are
[1:28:02] going to occur that affect the
[1:28:03] look of the so we built some
[1:28:04] design guidelines that we both
[1:28:08] can live with. As you know we
[1:28:12] take a look landscaping very
[1:28:15] seriously but we worked that
[1:28:16] out prior to securing approval
[1:28:17] for that peace will roughly 2
[1:28:19] years ago.
[1:28:25] >> ok thank yelled. Closing
[1:28:25] arguments.
[1:28:34] >> staff.
[1:28:35] >> staff is requesting that
[1:28:37] the commission approved the
[1:28:38] ordinance has were second
[1:28:40] creating based on the
[1:28:41] information and the facts
[1:28:43] provided before thank you.
[1:28:53] >> applicant come. Request
[1:28:53] approval because the school
[1:28:54] basically cleans up a lot of
[1:28:58] things and makes consistent.
[1:28:58] Set rules for everybody to
[1:29:04] fall.
[1:29:04] >> close public hearing and
[1:29:10] request a want to continue
[1:29:10] ordinance 2026 dash 22 the
[1:29:16] second reading of SEPTEMBER
[1:29:16] 22nd 2026. Have a motion on
[1:29:18] the floor made by commissioner
[1:29:19] stokes to continue ordinance
[1:29:22] number 2026 dash 22 the second
[1:29:24] reading on SEPTEMBER 22nd
[1:29:27] 2026. And that was seconded by
[1:29:28] commissioner ball. There's
[1:29:31] nothing to that please passes
[1:29:39] 5 to 0.
[1:29:41] >> moving now to ordinance 20
[1:29:41] to 26 23. This is also apply
[1:29:46] to digital. Karen and I
[1:29:46] request a motion direct the
[1:29:49] city the motion on the floor
[1:29:51] are made by commissioner
[1:29:54] stokes don't have a seconded
[1:29:56] by commissioner petro there's
[1:30:03] nothing to that please vote.
[1:30:06] Passes 5, 0 city clerk can
[1:30:09] read by title please ordinance
[1:30:11] number 2020 success, 23 an
[1:30:12] ordinance of the city of
[1:30:17] titian number of pnc pa dash
[1:30:19] 24 dashed.
[1:30:20] >> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 3
[1:30:21] formally the pa dash 24 dash
[1:30:22] 0, 8, 2, men in the village
[1:30:25] even district pattern plan.
[1:30:26] >> west villages ak well in
[1:30:28] part to expand the district
[1:30:28] county by incorporating
[1:30:33] approximately 81 acres of land
[1:30:33] modifying development
[1:30:35] entitlements and update
[1:30:35] signage and parking
[1:30:39] regulations amending section
[1:30:40] 4003.1 of the unified land
[1:30:41] development the amended
[1:30:42] pattern plan by reference
[1:30:46] amending section 3005.2 of the
[1:30:47] uldc to require village east
[1:30:48] signage to comply with the
[1:30:51] uldc chapter 5 standards
[1:30:52] provide deemed compliance and
[1:30:54] legal non-conforming status
[1:30:55] for certain existing signs
[1:30:56] providing for findings
[1:30:57] adoption complex severability
[1:31:00] codification and affected date
[1:31:02] there have been no green party
[1:31:03] requests received I can
[1:31:04] everyone wishing to provide
[1:31:04] testimony please stand raise
[1:31:10] your right hand. Just that the
[1:31:10] testimony you're about to
[1:31:11] provide us to an accurate to
[1:31:12] the best your knowledge to
[1:31:21] help you thank you.
[1:31:21] >> parte communications
[1:31:22] commissioner, the
[1:31:31] >> for. Commissioner have
[1:31:35] trouble not accept the and
[1:31:36] just everything when we
[1:31:37] discussed vice mayor and then
[1:31:48] for me for me. Presentation
[1:31:48] applicant john was key senior
[1:31:49] vice PRESIDENT And I have been
[1:31:51] sworn.
[1:32:00] >> the p the amendment. To
[1:32:01] basically the nexus of this
[1:32:04] was to adding 60 acres across
[1:32:04] clay moore from the koch at a
[1:32:09] park. Maybe we call can I
[1:32:12] think it was 2017. So there's
[1:32:13] a school district purchased
[1:32:16] this property from for the k
[1:32:21] through 8 facility. Shortly
[1:32:23] thereafter. The atlanta braves
[1:32:24] decided located and put a
[1:32:26] stadium across the street.
[1:32:29] 2019 when I got here working
[1:32:32] with the school district did
[1:32:33] determine probably not the
[1:32:35] best location for k through 8.
[1:32:35] School across from the
[1:32:40] stadium. That's what led to
[1:32:41] the school district's
[1:32:42] acquisition of a 130 acres
[1:32:48] from our entities for what the
[1:32:49] new high school and they have
[1:32:50] room and 130 acre parcel for
[1:32:52] future k through as part of
[1:32:53] the transaction. We re
[1:32:56] purchase at the market rate,
[1:33:00] 60 acres from schools. It
[1:33:03] would be intent was always put
[1:33:05] it back into one of our the
[1:33:07] dpp's it seemed to make the
[1:33:07] most sense to included with
[1:33:10] village ev which continuous
[1:33:13] with that parcel. We actually
[1:33:15] started this process actually
[1:33:22] before h. Came so this is kind
[1:33:23] of going through a life cycle
[1:33:23] that's own adjusting and
[1:33:25] adapting to. The market
[1:33:26] conditions and what's
[1:33:31] occurred. So as there's only 2
[1:33:32] properties in village even are
[1:33:37] not at all. It is age partial
[1:33:38] and we have a 9 acre parcel
[1:33:40] along river road. It will be
[1:33:42] north the plate gets north to
[1:33:43] play more. When play more gets
[1:33:45] expanded our extended here in
[1:33:48] the next 6 to 9 months and
[1:33:49] that piece we already have
[1:33:54] sold for commercial use. What
[1:33:56] we amend led the 60 acres into
[1:34:00] the village so with that again
[1:34:02] I'm going to turn over whiskey
[1:34:07] stand who get hearing of the
[1:34:09] water people appeal to prepare
[1:34:09] this document to updated to
[1:34:10] meet with you all the state
[1:34:11] standards that have. Coming
[1:34:15] up. Existence since we started
[1:34:21] the process outlet for explain
[1:34:23] >> thank before she gets
[1:34:24] started commissioner stokes
[1:34:24] did you have any ex parte
[1:34:39] communications thank go ahead.
[1:34:40] >> good morning again hannah
[1:34:41] smolinski I'm up on stand tech
[1:34:45] and I have been sworn. I'm
[1:34:46] here to present the amendment
[1:34:46] to the village g village
[1:34:51] district pattern plan. Is a
[1:34:51] one part application
[1:34:52] consisting of a pattern plan
[1:34:56] amendment. She is located
[1:34:58] within rahm heart and the
[1:34:59] southeast quadrant of camille
[1:34:59] and trail and west villages
[1:35:04] parkway. It was originally
[1:35:06] adopted in JULY of 2019 and
[1:35:09] has 101 time since adoption.
[1:35:12] It was amended in AUGUST of
[1:35:15] 2024 to incorporate the 20
[1:35:16] acre sarasota memorial
[1:35:17] hospital parcel into village
[1:35:18] yvonne tree and establish site
[1:35:19] development regulations for
[1:35:24] the hospital site. The purpose
[1:35:26] dpp amendment is to add
[1:35:26] approximately 60 acres of land
[1:35:30] to village g and land use as
[1:35:31] update language to reflect it
[1:35:34] was in conditions and update
[1:35:34] off 8 years and emotional
[1:35:39] criteria for this slide shows
[1:35:39] the existing and proposed
[1:35:40] boundaries of the village e.
[1:35:47] Proposing to expand from 334
[1:35:50] cases to 415 acres. I'm not 60
[1:35:51] acres is located right here
[1:35:55] with the red circle and also
[1:35:57] due to the realignment play
[1:35:57] more rober adding
[1:35:58] approximately 21 acres
[1:35:58] stability
[1:36:01] as well. For a grand total of
[1:36:08] 415 acres. We're also amending
[1:36:09] land use we are decreasing the
[1:36:10] overall residential units from
[1:36:15] 1000 units of 900 and we're
[1:36:16] increasing nonresidential
[1:36:18] square feet from 400,000
[1:36:21] square feet to 550,000 square
[1:36:22] feet. And this is for village
[1:36:25] e as a whole the 60 acre
[1:36:28] parcel. Its plan for mixed use
[1:36:28] development with multifamily
[1:36:33] and nonresidential uses. We
[1:36:36] are proposing a revision to
[1:36:38] section 9003.4 non-residential
[1:36:39] signage to be reviewed for
[1:36:41] compliance with chapter 5 of
[1:36:45] the uldc very similar to the
[1:36:46] previous amendment for
[1:36:48] non-residential parking they
[1:36:51] must comply with the uldc
[1:36:52] article time almost otherwise
[1:36:52] specified and the pattern plan
[1:36:56] or the pattern some additional
[1:36:59] minor amendments that we've
[1:37:00] included. Include the 60 acre
[1:37:05] former school parcel adding 21
[1:37:07] acres from the realignment
[1:37:08] clay morrow road and updating
[1:37:09] outdated language throughout
[1:37:10] the pattern plan based on
[1:37:13] current conditions. There are
[1:37:16] benefits this amendment,
[1:37:16] including simplifying staff
[1:37:19] review for science and parking
[1:37:20] standards provides additional
[1:37:23] nonresidential uses part and
[1:37:26] update outdated language with
[1:37:27] and the pattern plan that is
[1:37:27] no longer put the ball as many
[1:37:30] of the conditions have
[1:37:31] changed. But that we kindly
[1:37:32] request or we ask for your
[1:37:32] personal. Thank you. Thank
[1:37:47] you.
[1:37:55] >> I he could put on the
[1:37:56] screen please the morning
[1:37:57] again commissioners for the
[1:37:59] record sure we will let
[1:38:00] brandon planner 3 planning
[1:38:05] zoning division and I have
[1:38:07] been sworn. Is the village g
[1:38:08] village district pattern plan
[1:38:09] amendment and titian number
[1:38:19] can 24 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 3
[1:38:20] on formally the pa dash 24
[1:38:25] dash 0, 8, the ordinance 20's,
[1:38:26] 2623 and why the difference in
[1:38:29] the numbers is this was
[1:38:31] submitted under our old now
[1:38:32] the line system under the old
[1:38:33] you know unified land
[1:38:37] development code in the
[1:38:37] comprehensive plan.
[1:38:38] >> so this was a transition
[1:38:39] record in this is the new
[1:38:39] record number in our solar
[1:38:46] it's to provide clarification.
[1:38:48] So the owner is the manasota
[1:38:53] key p it is located at the
[1:38:53] northeast corner of play more
[1:38:57] road in west villages parkway
[1:38:58] the property size is
[1:39:02] approximately 415 acres
[1:39:05] virtual village includes the
[1:39:06] 60 acre expansion area and the
[1:39:07] 21 acre planned more road
[1:39:12] alignment. The boundary
[1:39:13] expansion is to integrate
[1:39:14] those 60 acres that were
[1:39:18] formerly owned by the school
[1:39:19] property into the site and the
[1:39:22] 21 acre roadway was the play
[1:39:25] more realignment that approved
[1:39:26] by an infrastructure plan
[1:39:27] amendment for the alignment
[1:39:30] it's just putting it in here
[1:39:32] that way it showing on here
[1:39:33] where that alignment is so we
[1:39:33] have count for that additional
[1:39:38] acreage. Also there's some
[1:39:39] entitlement adjustments. It's
[1:39:40] been a modify land use
[1:39:41] entitlements and amends the
[1:39:44] uldc to reference the updated
[1:39:48] plan in as you heard at the
[1:39:48] previous item that we're going
[1:39:51] have the established standards
[1:39:53] for the dean compliance in the
[1:39:53] legal nonconforming status
[1:39:54] prior to the effective date of
[1:40:03] the since its annexation in
[1:40:05] 2026 years ago. This pattern
[1:40:05] plan has undergone the
[1:40:11] following regulations so. In
[1:40:13] 2019 ordinance 2019 25 and
[1:40:14] established the original
[1:40:16] village district pattern plan
[1:40:16] for e as you can see on the
[1:40:21] side of the screen. Here is
[1:40:23] the area up in the blue at the
[1:40:25] top it's the sarasota memorial
[1:40:26] hospital case that was brought
[1:40:27] before this commission to add
[1:40:33] to the boundary in 2024. The
[1:40:33] keystone below and you 5
[1:40:37] stands for mixed use area 5.
[1:40:41] This is where the school
[1:40:41] property was located so that
[1:40:48] is incorporated into that. So
[1:40:49] yes really it's not really
[1:40:50] adding an additional 81 acres
[1:40:53] from somewhere it's really
[1:40:56] just. Shifting everything that
[1:40:57] was the school property here
[1:40:58] so I just wanted to make sure
[1:41:01] that that was this was
[1:41:03] submitted MAY 10th 2024. So
[1:41:05] this is covered this amendment
[1:41:08] is governed by the 2022 uldc
[1:41:11] and the 2020 17 comprehensive
[1:41:13] plan. I just want stay here
[1:41:14] that there's voluntary
[1:41:16] compliance, the applicant for
[1:41:18] the 20, 24 unified land
[1:41:20] development code updates,
[1:41:20] which is likable to the
[1:41:23] signage in the parking
[1:41:26] regulations. So under the old
[1:41:28] code commissioner duval said
[1:41:30] with a new one there was a
[1:41:31] specific provisions in the old
[1:41:33] uldc to amend so we are
[1:41:37] following those standards. In
[1:41:44] addition, net increase of a
[1:41:47] 150,000 non residential spaces
[1:41:48] balance by 100 unit
[1:41:48] residential reduction. What
[1:41:52] does this mean the original
[1:41:54] village district pattern plan
[1:41:55] 800 title mets for up to
[1:41:59] 400,000 square feet of
[1:42:02] nonresidential and 1000
[1:42:02] dwelling units this will
[1:42:04] reduce the dwelling units to
[1:42:08] 900 and increase the
[1:42:11] non-residential component by
[1:42:12] 150,000 square feet. It's a
[1:42:14] it's a small increments to
[1:42:17] that because the was to go to
[1:42:21] that 18% non-residential for
[1:42:24] the city and I remember that
[1:42:25] one of the commissioners had
[1:42:26] asked for a previous item so
[1:42:29] we're at currently about 16%.
[1:42:35] In needing that 18% goal. In
[1:42:37] addition, we included that
[1:42:38] grandfather provision if you
[1:42:41] will just for a simple
[1:42:42] nomenclature for the team
[1:42:43] compliance that legally
[1:42:44] protect all current permitting
[1:42:49] or pending signage and some
[1:42:51] document cleanups is to do the
[1:42:53] updates to the village pattern
[1:42:55] plan to show this new parcel
[1:42:57] in the new configurations with
[1:42:59] all of the components the
[1:43:00] transportation et cetera in
[1:43:00] the pattern plan that goes
[1:43:07] into more detail. So the the
[1:43:07] future land use map
[1:43:12] designation is village that is
[1:43:14] adopted zoning map designation
[1:43:17] is village so all of the
[1:43:18] surrounding areas, there's
[1:43:20] vacant the play more districts
[1:43:23] where the cool today park it
[1:43:24] is the river road corridor to
[1:43:27] the east and then the state
[1:43:28] college. A florida just to
[1:43:33] give you a point of reference.
[1:43:34] In addition, this was a multi
[1:43:35] department review of the
[1:43:38] village a power plant. So
[1:43:41] there was no objection or no
[1:43:43] response now the only
[1:43:45] condition that they have its
[1:43:46] not applicable to this point
[1:43:48] it will be a clickable at the
[1:43:50] time of the actual site and
[1:43:51] development plans. And it was
[1:43:54] by our former stormwater
[1:43:55] engineer elizabeth wong when
[1:43:55] she was employed with the city
[1:43:59] at the time. She was very
[1:44:01] specific and she said this
[1:44:02] amendment is acceptable as
[1:44:05] long as the amount of revised
[1:44:07] impervious areas, judy does
[1:44:09] not exceed the maximum
[1:44:10] allowable amount in the
[1:44:12] previously approved storm
[1:44:14] water analysis so compliance
[1:44:16] with these conditions is
[1:44:18] required at the time the site
[1:44:20] development and infrastructure
[1:44:21] so at that time the site and
[1:44:23] development and infrastructure
[1:44:25] I just want to make it the
[1:44:27] public to kind of understand
[1:44:29] that will have to be reviewed
[1:44:31] any changes to that storm
[1:44:32] water to ensure that any
[1:44:34] impacts are directed at that
[1:44:35] time the scope of this
[1:44:36] amendment does not include any
[1:44:43] impacts to storm water.
[1:44:44] Consistency with a
[1:44:45] comprehensive plan future land
[1:44:47] use goal character and
[1:44:48] location of land uses and as
[1:44:52] well as the economic benefit,
[1:44:55] that's very important that is
[1:44:56] something staff reviews at at
[1:44:57] the time that the application
[1:45:01] as is when it's brought in.
[1:45:03] Growth in community access. So
[1:45:05] the tax roll integration so
[1:45:07] it's maximizing potential of
[1:45:10] the 60 acre parcel acquired
[1:45:11] from the school board in 2021
[1:45:13] when the school board owned
[1:45:16] this property its exact from
[1:45:18] any revenue generating they
[1:45:19] are exempt from that suncor
[1:45:20] parading this as a non
[1:45:22] residential mixed use that
[1:45:26] will generate additional.
[1:45:30] Revenue also you also expand
[1:45:32] community access to local
[1:45:33] professional services, it's my
[1:45:36] understanding they'll be some
[1:45:38] retail. Medical incorporated
[1:45:39] within component I don't have
[1:45:42] any specifics at this point.
[1:45:49] In addition it should help an
[1:45:51] environment to attract those
[1:45:51] industries within this little
[1:45:55] pod this area and
[1:45:57] infrastructure optimization I
[1:45:58] do want to make this is a key
[1:46:00] component because staff always
[1:46:01] evaluate what is going to be
[1:46:02] the impact to our
[1:46:04] infrastructure water
[1:46:06] wastewater cetera so is
[1:46:09] utilizing the existing
[1:46:11] infrastructure capacity is not
[1:46:11] required city financing for
[1:46:11] utility room any drainage
[1:46:20] expansions. Future land use
[1:46:24] goal one the character of has
[1:46:27] touching upon the project a
[1:46:28] school in economic impact so
[1:46:30] the revenue is going to
[1:46:32] increase from what the current
[1:46:33] property tax revenue is based
[1:46:36] on looking at county tax was
[1:46:37] about when approximately
[1:46:43] 26,366. To potentially
[1:46:52] $62,150. 135.7% yield. I also
[1:46:53] included my sources and I cite
[1:46:56] my sources where gotten this
[1:46:59] information so the job
[1:47:01] creation based on the numbers
[1:47:03] that I have it it should
[1:47:05] generate a sustainable
[1:47:07] workforce capacity estimated
[1:47:10] at one job 300 to 500 square
[1:47:11] feet now it's going to be
[1:47:12] based on what that specific
[1:47:14] use and I don't know the
[1:47:14] specific use is at this time
[1:47:18] this is very conservative in
[1:47:20] nature I wanted to do with the
[1:47:20] lower level just so we know
[1:47:25] with the comparison. Where we
[1:47:31] it should add about 16 point.
[1:47:32] 5 million in residential value
[1:47:34] to fund public safety and
[1:47:34] infrastructure no added tax
[1:47:40] burden residents. Entitlement
[1:47:40] rebalancing reduces
[1:47:41] residential title from a 1000
[1:47:45] to 900 units to minimize
[1:47:45] long-term demand on municipal
[1:47:49] residential services. So the
[1:47:52] sources are also in very great
[1:47:54] detail. I included within the
[1:47:56] staff report with the sources
[1:47:58] are so we had I looked at the
[1:48:01] job projections calculated on
[1:48:02] standard employment density
[1:48:03] benchmarks recognized by the
[1:48:06] urban land institute in the
[1:48:09] U.S. Energy information
[1:48:10] administration to us to make
[1:48:13] the capacity based on
[1:48:15] anticipated uses. So if we had
[1:48:16] professional office of
[1:48:17] approximately one job for 300
[1:48:21] square feet medical
[1:48:22] institution. Well, it is about
[1:48:25] one per 350 square feet and
[1:48:27] retail is approximately one
[1:48:28] percent about per 500 square
[1:48:33] feet just to give you an idea.
[1:48:34] For the sarasota county
[1:48:36] property appraiser's
[1:48:38] methodologies the 2026
[1:48:40] estimated square footage
[1:48:42] evaluation for 150,000 square
[1:48:43] foot nonresidential bill out
[1:48:45] was determined by a comparable
[1:48:48] building value of
[1:48:50] 16 million 500 pounds was
[1:48:50] alting ineffective cost of a
[1:48:54] 110,000 per square feet. So
[1:48:56] where did that come from it
[1:48:57] was that estimated of a 110
[1:49:01] per square multiply it by the
[1:49:02] 150,000 and it comes up with
[1:49:07] that 6 million 500,000. So
[1:49:09] here's here's the table with
[1:49:11] the land use status, currently
[1:49:12] vacant and this is roughly
[1:49:14] this is based on our adopted
[1:49:16] millage rate and this is the
[1:49:20] approximate taxable annual
[1:49:21] revenue propose next used
[1:49:24] again at the 16 million 500
[1:49:26] attack today. It would be that
[1:49:27] about so the net fiscal gain
[1:49:30] is you're showing that it is.
[1:49:33] Now this is the taxable value
[1:49:34] and 9 million 500 thousand is
[1:49:37] not saying we're getting 900
[1:49:38] 9 million 500 thousand
[1:49:39] revenue. It's the taxable
[1:49:40] value very important to
[1:49:43] distinguish between the 2.
[1:49:47] Which would have a plus a
[1:49:48] 35,784, so there is an
[1:49:49] economic benefit to this
[1:49:52] amendment. Which is in
[1:49:55] compliance with the
[1:49:58] comprehensive plan. Economic
[1:50:00] of diversification it aligns
[1:50:01] with our the city's mandate to
[1:50:04] actively increase diversify
[1:50:07] and expand municipal economic
[1:50:09] tax base. And our progress as
[1:50:11] I stated previously it's
[1:50:11] towards the 18% that is
[1:50:14] required for that component
[1:50:15] that was in the comprehensive
[1:50:20] plan so the commercial
[1:50:22] baseline is secures that 50
[1:50:23] acre expansion under the mixed
[1:50:28] so it's a new mixed use 5 and
[1:50:29] you 5. And again this was
[1:50:30] about projections in the
[1:50:31] revenues as I previously
[1:50:36] stated. So with this
[1:50:38] amendment, they're also asking
[1:50:43] for to comply or adopt signage
[1:50:46] standards for all signage judy
[1:50:46] was just for a law signed is
[1:50:50] this is all signage that will
[1:50:51] have compliance they will
[1:50:52] defer to chapter 5 the unified
[1:50:55] land development code. It
[1:50:58] applies that content neutral
[1:50:59] measurable time space and man
[1:51:02] are limits to mitigate visual
[1:51:02] clutter also grants the
[1:51:05] compliance as I stated
[1:51:07] previously this is to prevent
[1:51:08] any unexpected business costs
[1:51:09] to any of those owners for
[1:51:14] signage. Policy 5.1 parking
[1:51:15] and traffic flow this refers
[1:51:16] to the unified land
[1:51:20] development code chapter 4
[1:51:22] article 10 to guarantee safe.
[1:51:23] Convenient on site traffic
[1:51:24] flow parking capacity because
[1:51:24] it will need our parking
[1:51:30] standards. Uses the parking
[1:51:32] standard metrics and also to
[1:51:33] minimize large asphalt front
[1:51:35] footprints because our our
[1:51:39] standards little more
[1:51:41] stringent also. Free of this
[1:51:42] parcel states for higher
[1:51:43] intensity development in
[1:51:50] public. Open spaces. Also want
[1:51:53] jump on the at the roadways
[1:51:54] levels service one component
[1:51:54] of the comprehensive plan is
[1:51:58] those levels services. They do
[1:52:00] a traffic impact part of that
[1:52:00] is included with the
[1:52:02] commission back in it. It was
[1:52:05] done SEPTEMBER 2025. It was
[1:52:09] evaluated that it would not it
[1:52:11] would fit within the existing
[1:52:12] network capacity maintaining
[1:52:16] those adopted local services,
[1:52:17] even though that there are
[1:52:19] daily trips are projected to
[1:52:24] increase by 4,329 trips. It
[1:52:26] does fall within their
[1:52:30] acceptable levels to 2030
[1:52:32] based on that traffic impact
[1:52:32] statement which has been
[1:52:35] reviewed and evaluated like to
[1:52:37] add by our public rindge
[1:52:38] transportation engineer as
[1:52:42] well from the let it take. So
[1:52:44] there's going to be 0 offsite
[1:52:48] improvements and also to know
[1:52:51] that maintenance of the
[1:52:52] roadways falls under wellen
[1:52:53] park the city does not
[1:52:55] maintain those roadways at all
[1:52:56] that falls under long park it
[1:53:00] is their responsibility. Legal
[1:53:03] review and business impact a
[1:53:04] student's so we're ordinance
[1:53:06] 2023 has been reviewed and
[1:53:07] approved by the city attorney
[1:53:10] and is legally a cracked as to
[1:53:13] form. In addition pursuant to
[1:53:16] florida statute section 1, 6,
[1:53:17] 6.0 4, 1, foresee a business
[1:53:20] impact statement was not
[1:53:20] required because this
[1:53:21] ordinance is an active to
[1:53:22] implement comprehensive plan
[1:53:25] amendments and land
[1:53:25] development regulations and
[1:53:28] then is initiated by an
[1:53:29] applicant application by a
[1:53:30] private party other
[1:53:35] municipality. So this was a
[1:53:37] privately not city did not the
[1:53:37] city did not address this or
[1:53:40] done to do it just to kind of
[1:53:41] give you notice of happened
[1:53:44] they did hold a public
[1:53:47] workshop. Those workshop
[1:53:48] materials, outcome, the
[1:53:49] questions that is in your
[1:53:53] package in great detail. It
[1:53:54] discussed the expansion and
[1:53:59] the entitlement adjustments.
[1:54:01] JUNE 30th, 2026 those notices
[1:54:03] were mailed to the owner and
[1:54:05] property owners within 1320
[1:54:06] feet and newspaper
[1:54:09] advertisements were published.
[1:54:10] The planning and zoning
[1:54:14] advisory board on JULY 1620 26
[1:54:16] hold a meeting voted 5 to 0
[1:54:16] unanimous to approve the
[1:54:20] changes to the amendments. The
[1:54:21] next step this is where we are
[1:54:24] here today for commission for
[1:54:25] first reading with a proposed
[1:54:28] adoption hearing for SEPTEMBER
[1:54:31] 22nd. Staff is asking that the
[1:54:34] commission would approve this
[1:54:35] ordinance and accompanying
[1:54:35] amendments to the village even
[1:54:39] district pattern plan for the
[1:54:40] upcoming a city commission
[1:54:43] meeting for second reading and
[1:54:45] staff is here to answer any
[1:54:45] questions and I thank you for
[1:54:50] your time. And q. Rebuttal
[1:55:00] applicant.
[1:55:01] >> it you can offer a rebuttal
[1:55:05] religious point of sure you
[1:55:07] give a detailed presentation
[1:55:11] questions that MAY arise in
[1:55:11] your minds. She MAY come about
[1:55:16] city last month just want to
[1:55:16] remind everyone. The city has
[1:55:17] not invested one any
[1:55:19] improvement in lawn park
[1:55:22] that's privately funded or in
[1:55:23] some cases we do run things
[1:55:24] through the motions of
[1:55:26] permanently. Water plant built
[1:55:29] I ballpark wastewater plant
[1:55:32] built by wall park. Water
[1:55:33] plant expansion which we're
[1:55:37] starting to design bill by
[1:55:37] wang park. All the roadways
[1:55:40] bill long parking wb I d. So I
[1:55:41] just want to clarify that
[1:55:42] because I know it's tough.
[1:55:47] Just
[1:55:48] to say. Yeah the city's
[1:55:50] invested funds to him. To
[1:55:50] level of service for the
[1:55:56] roadway. Yes, there's
[1:55:57] increased trips with this plan
[1:56:01] over the prior plan. However
[1:56:02] what we could not do in the
[1:56:04] updated traffic impact
[1:56:08] statement with the show
[1:56:08] significant reduction in dense
[1:56:10] cities in the 2 joining bill
[1:56:15] half collectively the
[1:56:16] reductions are in excess of a
[1:56:17] 1000 homes in those 2 so
[1:56:18] really there's net reduction
[1:56:24] in. And level service actually
[1:56:25] goes up. But because we're
[1:56:28] only talking about village 8.
[1:56:29] We could only show what was
[1:56:32] happening village e not
[1:56:33] collectively we do it. The
[1:56:35] west hills improvement
[1:56:36] district. We literally update
[1:56:37] our traffic models for full
[1:56:41] build out till at full build
[1:56:45] so we have a good feeling.
[1:56:45] Twice a year where we're
[1:56:48] heading with improvements be
[1:56:48] needed because we've got a
[1:56:50] look long-term which roads to
[1:56:52] be we know what fills the
[1:56:53] parkway which has some
[1:56:56] frontage on the parcel all to
[1:56:59] 41 someday will be for life.
[1:57:01] Probably the trigger will be
[1:57:01] some age when they come in
[1:57:04] because they will inject so
[1:57:05] significantly more traffic in
[1:57:09] that area. Again something we
[1:57:12] monitor but just want to
[1:57:12] clarify overall traffic is
[1:57:16] heading not up. And last but
[1:57:17] not least we show a reduction
[1:57:20] in whole on residential
[1:57:24] density down from the 1900.
[1:57:26] Part of that 900 located up to
[1:57:29] a 150 units for track h e
[1:57:34] which was played off. Along
[1:57:35] river road. We have entered
[1:57:36] into contracts for commercial
[1:57:38] use and that partial that
[1:57:39] purchase of during the due
[1:57:43] diligence and that part off.
[1:57:43] Actually typed completing
[1:57:46] playmore rolled across. Gci is
[1:57:47] property which I think
[1:57:52] saturday. Yes that could be 7
[1:57:53] or 8 so that will be happening
[1:57:57] here in the next 6 to 9
[1:57:58] months. So what we did is we
[1:58:00] MAY have some reduction
[1:58:01] residential. What we did we
[1:58:05] built in 150,000 square feet
[1:58:06] of commercial for chance to
[1:58:10] put that there. So things are
[1:58:12] changing from when we started
[1:58:13] this back a couple years ago,
[1:58:14] but now we know we're going to
[1:58:16] be able to have a commercial
[1:58:20] use out there and play more in
[1:58:21] river road. Just more and the
[1:58:22] detail to what sure product.
[1:58:30] Thank thank you sir.
[1:58:31] >> yes sir I do have a
[1:58:36] rebuttal to the okay so I just
[1:58:39] wanted to make it very clear
[1:58:41] when I evaluated this
[1:58:41] petition, it's based on what
[1:58:45] is existing at the time. And
[1:58:46] the statement that I need is
[1:58:47] based on that transferred
[1:58:50] haitian impact statement. So
[1:58:51] at this point in time based on
[1:58:55] information for this approval.
[1:58:57] There are no impacts to that
[1:58:58] infrastructure. There's no
[1:59:00] requirement for lift stations,
[1:59:02] cetera. So at this point in
[1:59:03] time there are no impacts i
[1:59:04] just want to make that clear
[1:59:08] on the record.
[1:59:09] >> and that is the real battle
[1:59:11] to my rebuttal. Thank you for
[1:59:14] your will not republican you
[1:59:21] don't certainly public that.
[1:59:24] >> all commission questions.
[1:59:29] But thank you mayor.
[1:59:31] >> first thank you MISTER Lose
[1:59:33] case for your eye for the
[1:59:33] record I was going ask you to
[1:59:39] clarify exactly how
[1:59:40] infrastructure expansions are
[1:59:43] funded without and wellen park
[1:59:46] and yes this been
[1:59:47] misunderstanding across the
[1:59:48] city of north port are
[1:59:50] taxpayers on how that's done
[1:59:51] so thank you very much for
[1:59:57] that. Also comment that I'm
[2:00:00] frankly delighted with the
[2:00:00] adjustments in this plan it's
[2:00:03] long been recognized by city
[2:00:04] that we need to bring more
[2:00:05] jobs to the city of north port
[2:00:09] and that we need to expand our
[2:00:12] commercial footprint in order
[2:00:12] to relieve some of the tax
[2:00:13] burden on our homeowner
[2:00:19] taxpayers. So. For those 2
[2:00:20] reasons I hardly supportive of
[2:00:20] these changes.
[2:00:25] Developed next.
[2:00:29] >> commissioner you all. First
[2:00:43] of all. I heard the name wall.
[2:00:43] >> he's no longer here are
[2:00:44] credit is still.
[2:00:47] >> being seen.
[2:00:48] >> think that shows quality of
[2:00:52] floyd. That she was for the
[2:00:57] city that she missed. Anyone
[2:01:04] who's been around city for a
[2:01:04] you I've been here for 18
[2:01:11] years. You although she was.
[2:01:14] What MISTER Was it's first
[2:01:17] mentioned above. The ballpark.
[2:01:22] And school. You see where and
[2:01:24] it's beautiful facility.
[2:01:29] School there. And this is the
[2:01:31] well, you I think about who
[2:01:32] you still a lot of that across
[2:01:35] ballpark. Well for
[2:01:37] millennials. That was a great
[2:01:46] change. As MISTER Was stated.
[2:01:46] Well apart that property back
[2:01:49] school is for. Been
[2:01:55] repurposed. All of these the
[2:02:01] family was up to me. Still
[2:02:10] trees. But that's not you know
[2:02:12] people are moving to florida.
[2:02:14] People are going to florida.
[2:02:18] Just from my experience with
[2:02:20] the well apart. They get on
[2:02:25] the and I think this is
[2:02:26] example of making proper
[2:02:32] adjustments. Thanks for
[2:02:32] commissioner petro.
[2:02:38] >> have a couple things. So
[2:02:39] this ordinance intends change
[2:02:40] and opponents entitlements and
[2:02:42] reduce residential increasing
[2:02:48] commercial whatever the number
[2:02:48] but increasing the commercial
[2:02:56] by 150 square feet. And on the
[2:02:56] one total area of the square
[2:03:03] footage or acreage. As far as
[2:03:05] we're reducing biden said or
[2:03:07] we still have some leftovers
[2:03:10] from designation okay so the
[2:03:11] 60 acre parcel that we're
[2:03:12] adding in from the school
[2:03:16] board property in hand.
[2:03:17] >> they're proposing to
[2:03:18] increase the non-residential
[2:03:22] by a 150,000 square feet in
[2:03:22] that area. So under the
[2:03:26] current village district
[2:03:27] pattern plan their allocation
[2:03:30] for square feet 400,000 so
[2:03:31] this will increase the total
[2:03:36] to 550,000 square feet. And in
[2:03:41] addition to reducing
[2:03:41] residential component from a
[2:03:43] residential units I'd be all
[2:03:45] cross.
[2:03:49] >> village e to the 900.
[2:03:52] >> they have to be resold for
[2:03:52] ordinance covers a new test
[2:03:55] when concept, whatever you
[2:04:01] call as opposed to plan.
[2:04:03] >> do we have rezoning from
[2:04:05] shifting from bench, you know
[2:04:07] rezoning know it's it's all so
[2:04:11] that the village no rezoning
[2:04:11] no change.
[2:04:12] >> and just understand it's
[2:04:14] not it's it's incorporating
[2:04:17] the 60 acres village with
[2:04:19] those 60 acres were part of
[2:04:20] the wellen park which is
[2:04:21] putting it in here for ability
[2:04:24] to add that non-residential
[2:04:28] square feet.
[2:04:29] >> have another question for
[2:04:33] MISTER Of those in and this
[2:04:36] for a so.
[2:04:44] How does the infrastructure
[2:04:44] expansion.
[2:04:45] It's funded news said it
[2:04:46] clearly that is funded by the
[2:04:48] developer. But the city
[2:04:53] reverses the developer.
[2:04:53] Through the impact fees and
[2:04:58] how much is dollars per you
[2:04:59] could do a racial it's $0.50
[2:05:04] per and the dollar. And it was
[2:05:06] specifically did refer stuff
[2:05:07] like station wastewater
[2:05:07] whatever all those
[2:05:10] infrastructure. Components you
[2:05:12] do get reimbursed. And my
[2:05:16] question is how much who
[2:05:17] >> I can't give the exit
[2:05:20] dollar values like getting
[2:05:21] done calls. And traffic as you
[2:05:22] know the of that these must be
[2:05:27] spent in that year. So my
[2:05:27] nexus they need to come into
[2:05:34] the park area. Dollars we've
[2:05:35] spent as APRIL this year
[2:05:41] 160 million dollars. On roads.
[2:05:46] Just the not any subdivision.
[2:05:47] I believe that JUNE first of
[2:05:48] this year, the city is
[2:05:50] reimbursed this through impact
[2:05:55] fees. 16 million dollars. So
[2:05:57] we received about $0.10. On
[2:06:01] every dollar we've spent.
[2:06:01] Great deal.
[2:06:06] >> but it's spending right.
[2:06:07] >> all receipts only waivers
[2:06:09] have been reviewed by we've
[2:06:10] been provided to the city in
[2:06:13] been review. Lift stations
[2:06:20] reimbursement 0. We we do get
[2:06:22] you know she payments which a
[2:06:24] cap on for the repayment all
[2:06:26] don't mean the wastewater
[2:06:26] treatment plant and same goes
[2:06:30] for water plant. One with
[2:06:31] wastewater treatment plant was
[2:06:35] repaid in that money is coming
[2:06:36] in sitting in a for the
[2:06:39] planned expansion between
[2:06:40] expanding the wastewater plant
[2:06:42] from 2 million gallons. A day
[2:06:44] to 4 million young today. Plus
[2:06:48] the contemplated law to bring
[2:06:51] additional reclaim from the
[2:06:55] pen america up 1.2 well in
[2:06:57] part to address the city's
[2:06:58] 18 million dollars issue of
[2:07:03] ionizing. Those 2 combined
[2:07:05] dissipate be about 40 million
[2:07:07] dollars and will be ultimately
[2:07:10] repaid. Hopefully you know
[2:07:11] she's hopefully we'll have
[2:07:13] enough year she has pay that.
[2:07:18] I so that again. Fully paid
[2:07:20] remember when we when I say
[2:07:23] were paid. We the money. You
[2:07:25] don't charge of any interest.
[2:07:30] It's 0 interest law. Just like
[2:07:31] we do with the fire station
[2:07:32] police substation public
[2:07:36] safety building all you know,
[2:07:37] that's pretty good federal
[2:07:37] government and you can get a
[2:07:48] deal you know the part list.
[2:07:49] The part due to heat all the
[2:07:51] questions yeah well, one thing
[2:07:52] that as for more clarification
[2:07:55] as far as that.
[2:07:58] >> you've been reimbursed but
[2:08:00] there's a pending
[2:08:01] reimbursements as well so
[2:08:06] there's need for what. When
[2:08:08] news that I think is set to
[2:08:09] lift stations. I forget
[2:08:09] station never been any
[2:08:13] reimbursements on any
[2:08:14] legislation.
[2:08:15] >> pending because annually
[2:08:19] the city reimburses for wrote
[2:08:20] for impact fees collected in
[2:08:22] the prior 12 months. So
[2:08:23] generally I will some of the
[2:08:26] bill. Basically shows what we
[2:08:30] spend here today. I send it to
[2:08:31] the city generally on APRIL
[2:08:37] 1st. Generally by JUNE 1st we
[2:08:37] get reimbursed. So if the city
[2:08:41] collects. 5 million dollars.
[2:08:44] There's a caution. I think
[2:08:47] right now we're at 80%. The
[2:08:50] city had 5 million in coffers
[2:08:54] to reimburse us that year.
[2:08:57] They would submit send us that
[2:08:57] 4 million dollars keep a
[2:08:58] million dollars for use of
[2:09:01] roadways also in the city.
[2:09:03] Follows the road we
[2:09:04] reimbursement agreement we
[2:09:09] entered into MARCH in 2020.
[2:09:10] >> so this is one 60 million
[2:09:10] for the roles 160 million
[2:09:14] which
[2:09:15] >> does the plasma number was
[2:09:16] invested as of APRIL one of
[2:09:16] this year.
[2:09:20] We believe that full build out
[2:09:20] will be close to
[2:09:24] 200 million. Does not include
[2:09:26] our investments we've made and
[2:09:27] river road just to remind
[2:09:33] everybody to date we're public
[2:09:34] or private invest any money in
[2:09:39] south river road. County, some
[2:09:39] 0.3 million dollars for you
[2:09:40] design and permitting of that
[2:09:43] role.
[2:09:44] >> once the built out for you
[2:09:48] said 200 million. How much
[2:09:52] this project and your
[2:09:53] destination to be collected
[2:09:55] from the for 3 event when he
[2:09:58] will be
[2:09:59] >> if we get $0.40 on the
[2:10:04] dollar expense. I mean roughly
[2:10:07] 11,000 homes in. And we
[2:10:12] receive 16 million dollars.
[2:10:16] Granted you becomes one 67
[2:10:16] benderson commercial couple
[2:10:19] hospitals coming those are. I.
[2:10:23] Years of traffic into
[2:10:24] hopefully you know we're going
[2:10:27] see a big jump in that number.
[2:10:28] Don't think we have get more
[2:10:33] than 30 to 40%. Thank you.
[2:10:45] >> closing arguments staff.
[2:10:46] >> thank you commissioners as
[2:10:47] previously staff asking that
[2:10:52] the commission would approve
[2:10:53] the ordinance to continue
[2:10:56] second reading based on the
[2:10:57] information and the facts
[2:10:57] presented before thank thank
[2:11:05] you.
[2:11:09] >> request approval of rvp
[2:11:09] think.
[2:11:10] >> thank close public areas
[2:11:14] request a motion.
[2:11:16] >> to continue ordinance 2026
[2:11:21] 23 2nd reading amber 22nd 2026
[2:11:22] motion made to continue
[2:11:25] ordinance number 2026 3 the
[2:11:29] second SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2026
[2:11:30] commissioner seconded by vice
[2:11:31] mayor there's nothing to that
[2:11:34] please
[2:11:41] >> passes 5 to 0. And it's
[2:11:43] almost 12 will come back from
[2:11:48] little bit really yeah it
[2:11:48] actually does and we've got
[2:11:51] such a variety of a piece of
[2:11:52] equipment.
[2:11:52] >> you know and different
[2:11:53] fixes different buckets it all
[2:11:54] requires you know different
[2:11:57] links with trailers the same
[2:12:02] way right it's a it's it's
[2:12:02] great.
[2:12:03] >> yeah, we did a great job
[2:12:04] and we appreciate it, thanks
[2:12:04] for everything very much yeah.
[2:12:05] Here not going to appreciate
[2:12:06] thank you.
[2:12:08] >> last that
[2:12:09] >> was meant. The vehicle we
[2:12:10] were working on the one used
[2:12:11] by the city manager's office
[2:12:14] happy to be do for service.
[2:12:14] >> perfect timing every
[2:12:17] vehicle comes in the shop
[2:12:22] doesn't matter if it's a
[2:12:23] police fire. Office personnel
[2:12:23] anything we inspection on the
[2:12:27] vehicle ok matter what it is.
[2:12:28] Well will start from the back
[2:12:28] and usually work our way to
[2:12:31] the front checking all shock
[2:12:34] suspensions. Springs of they
[2:12:35] axles breaks whatever it that
[2:12:40] we coming counter that we
[2:12:41] normal wear and I it just
[2:12:42] because the vehicle's new
[2:12:45] doesn't mean it's it's good
[2:12:46] lot of times we see some of
[2:12:48] the newer vehicles have parts
[2:12:50] that fail so we make sure we
[2:12:51] check everything pretty
[2:12:52] thoroughly and stuff like
[2:12:53] tires are a big part of it and
[2:12:53] they tell you more than you
[2:12:56] think.
[2:12:57] >> anything below 3.30 seconds
[2:13:00] is automatic replacement. And
[2:13:02] then we check the difference
[2:13:03] between a from the rare case
[2:13:04] of tires have to be rotated
[2:13:04] we've got a little tired gauge
[2:13:06] that we usually.
[2:13:06] >> you know pull out we stick
[2:13:09] right in the senate heard.
[2:13:14] It's up to 1130 seconds.
[2:13:16] Checked the outside to cause a
[2:13:17] tire will tell you yeah a lot
[2:13:20] of very if information on how
[2:13:21] vehicles where have suspension
[2:13:25] issued warning. Possible part
[2:13:29] replacement the world.
[2:13:30] >> the term that heard of
[2:13:31] would have had to pay the bill
[2:13:34] but not exactly exactly seeing
[2:13:35] them and rely every vehicle is
[2:13:43] a little different every time
[2:13:48] >> I 45 and we're
[2:13:49] >> quick on that think you
[2:13:52] very much because I have to
[2:13:53] tell you like always so
[2:13:57] conversation about west
[2:13:57] villages and how you know
[2:14:01] whether or not north port
[2:14:02] taxpayers help toughened up
[2:14:02] there so appreciate you some
[2:14:06] clarity to a it all out. You
[2:14:06] know MISTER Lipinski explain
[2:14:08] that and you know that does
[2:14:16] help because sir. You know I'm
[2:14:18] but we come into report
[2:14:18] taxpayers pockets so
[2:14:19] appreciated.
[2:14:27] >> 2 ordinance 2026 24. I
[2:14:27] request a motion to direct the
[2:14:28] city clerk to read by title
[2:14:32] only second. And the motion
[2:14:34] made by commissioner stokes
[2:14:35] seconded by vice city
[2:14:36] clerk read by title only
[2:14:42] nothing to that please vote.
[2:14:46] And passes 5, 0 city clerk.
[2:14:48] >> ordinance number 2026 24
[2:14:49] and ordinance of the city
[2:14:50] in north port florida
[2:14:51] repealing chapter 4 article 10
[2:14:53] of the code of the city
[2:14:55] of north port florida their
[2:14:56] buddy standing the historic
[2:14:56] cultural advisory board
[2:14:58] providing for findings
[2:14:58] providing for complex
[2:14:59] providing for severability
[2:15:00] providing for codification and
[2:15:05] providing an effective date.
[2:15:07] >> already and this is your
[2:15:11] right this on JULY 21st 2026
[2:15:12] discuss this board and their
[2:15:13] lack membership at that time
[2:15:14] had one member left remaining
[2:15:17] on the board and.
[2:15:18] >> commission directed me to
[2:15:18] draft an ordinance to standing
[2:15:22] that
[2:15:23] >> commission questions
[2:15:27] discussion. Youve got public
[2:15:37] comment.
[2:15:38] >> I'm so sad that this is on
[2:15:40] the agenda again. This the
[2:15:46] board. You know this. Almost a
[2:15:51] year and a half.
[2:15:53] >> I've been sending the board
[2:15:53] information on really we need
[2:15:54] take a look at these advisory
[2:15:55] boards. While the remaining
[2:16:00] empty. How can we get people
[2:16:01] on them and interested in
[2:16:07] serving. That was supposed to
[2:16:07] be an agenda item last year I
[2:16:08] think we're still working on
[2:16:11] it. But it definitely needs be
[2:16:15] a workshop. To everybody look
[2:16:15] at how we can people involved
[2:16:18] in advisory boards. Maybe we
[2:16:21] need to combine some advisory
[2:16:22] boards. I think we need to
[2:16:24] look at the criteria for some
[2:16:27] of these advisory boards. I
[2:16:30] mean this is an important
[2:16:31] advisory board but because of
[2:16:32] the lack of participation and
[2:16:38] quorum issues. We have to.
[2:16:38] Repeal it but do we really
[2:16:39] have to repeal it coming not
[2:16:43] just temporarily suspend it.
[2:16:44] While we MAY be scheduled
[2:16:45] workshop to really go over
[2:16:46] these advisory boards and see
[2:16:51] what we can do. Influence more
[2:16:51] more participation on these
[2:16:57] boards. And then also the
[2:16:59] memos and the recommendations
[2:17:00] that I had given to the
[2:17:00] commission last year to take a
[2:17:05] look at it again. And see what
[2:17:07] we can really because it's
[2:17:07] important these advisory
[2:17:10] boards are important. We need
[2:17:12] to citizen input on these
[2:17:13] boards and then their voices
[2:17:14] need to really be taken
[2:17:18] seriously. Recommendations and
[2:17:21] memos that are given to the
[2:17:24] commission. So instead of just
[2:17:24] repealing it and getting rid
[2:17:25] of this again can we just
[2:17:26] temporarily suspended until we
[2:17:30] can really figure out. All the
[2:17:32] different aspects of these
[2:17:33] advisory boards and why we
[2:17:34] have such low participation in
[2:17:35] vacancies available all the
[2:17:38] time. That would be my
[2:17:39] recommendation to this court
[2:17:42] please reconsider. Temporarily
[2:17:50] suspending have a workshop.
[2:17:52] >> phillips, I'm writing to
[2:17:53] express my strong opposition
[2:17:56] to the proposal to disband the
[2:17:57] historic cultural advisory
[2:17:58] board dismantling this fido
[2:17:59] and steve community's ability
[2:18:02] to protect conserve and raise
[2:18:03] public awareness of the
[2:18:03] priceless historic and
[2:18:06] cultural resources that define
[2:18:08] our identity. Report serves as
[2:18:09] indispensable asset to our
[2:18:10] local government bridges, the
[2:18:12] gap between official policy
[2:18:13] makers in the community
[2:18:14] ensuring that for the modern
[2:18:15] development do not come at the
[2:18:17] expense of our heritage but
[2:18:18] that the dedicated expert
[2:18:20] recommendations of this board
[2:18:22] reversed permanently losing
[2:18:23] the unique cultural landscapes
[2:18:24] historical structures public
[2:18:25] art installations that make
[2:18:27] our community a place to live
[2:18:28] and visit rather than to
[2:18:28] stopping the border to
[2:18:31] temporary hurdle such as
[2:18:32] membership fluctuations
[2:18:33] community engagement our
[2:18:35] leadership should actively
[2:18:37] investing revitalizing urge
[2:18:39] you to reject any measures to
[2:18:40] dissolve this advisory group
[2:18:40] and said launch targeted
[2:18:43] efforts to recruit passionate
[2:18:44] community volunteers and
[2:18:44] restore the board to
[2:18:45] full-capacity thank you for
[2:18:48] your time leadership and
[2:18:49] commitment to preserving the
[2:18:50] historic integrity of our
[2:18:51] community. I strongly urge you
[2:18:52] to vote against the disbanding
[2:18:52] of the historic and cultural
[2:18:58] advisory. And that's all.
[2:19:04] >> go ahead.
[2:19:05] >> the city to temporarily
[2:19:08] suspend story. And cultural
[2:19:09] advisory board until further
[2:19:16] notice.
[2:19:25] >> second for refresh my
[2:19:27] memory clair we suspended this
[2:19:28] board once already could you
[2:19:32] go through
[2:19:34] >> we did suspended for a year
[2:19:35] because at that time it was
[2:19:37] down to one member and we held
[2:19:40] meeting with
[2:19:43] >> commission and members of
[2:19:46] the community such like them.
[2:19:56] I. Stark wrister I'm joe and I
[2:19:57] think there's like 3 people
[2:20:00] who came out for it we decided
[2:20:01] they said they will be able to
[2:20:05] find people to join them find
[2:20:06] people to join the border over
[2:20:08] time it has slowly climbed all
[2:20:10] the way I will say the same
[2:20:12] things that the board
[2:20:14] discussed what we brought to
[2:20:14] for the time from since I
[2:20:17] think it was 2024 till now.
[2:20:19] >> the things that they
[2:20:20] discussed are the same things
[2:20:21] that board was discussing
[2:20:23] since 2019 when I first got
[2:20:25] here and it was just the same
[2:20:27] 3 things the historic
[2:20:32] designations for tipton team
[2:20:35] area. So something or other
[2:20:37] and so those are only things
[2:20:38] that were recommended to
[2:20:39] commission those times were to
[2:20:40] keep those in talking with
[2:20:41] development services I don't
[2:20:43] know the details you have to
[2:20:44] ask them. But there are so
[2:20:47] many things cannot do that
[2:20:48] they wanted to do by making
[2:20:51] these historic designations
[2:20:52] against state statute or our
[2:20:55] code I'm not sure which one
[2:20:56] mistry stated that think they
[2:20:58] could not do certain things
[2:20:59] that they wanted do in the
[2:20:59] mayor they wanted to do and
[2:21:01] the board just window down to
[2:21:04] one member was harry camera
[2:21:10] and overall summary want to
[2:21:24] thank prevail. There's nothing
[2:21:30] >> and that fails 3 to I'll be
[2:21:37] looking for another motion.
[2:21:37] It.
[2:21:38] >> I moved to continue
[2:21:39] ordinance number 2026 24 2nd
[2:21:40] reading of SEPTEMBER 22nd
[2:21:44] 2026.
[2:21:48] >> motion on the floor by
[2:21:48] commissioner stokes to to
[2:21:49] continue ordinance number 2026
[2:21:51] to 24 the second reading on
[2:21:54] SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2026. There's
[2:22:06] nothing to that please and
[2:22:08] that passes for one
[2:22:08] commissioner petrova something
[2:22:09] you like to comment on your
[2:22:11] dissension.
[2:22:11] >> I just you know we can
[2:22:14] continue. Suspended until
[2:22:22] further notice.
[2:22:27] >> moving 2226 dash 29 I need
[2:22:28] motion to direct the city
[2:22:31] clerk to read by title only
[2:22:33] that motion on the floor
[2:22:34] commissioners seconded by vice
[2:22:43] mayor to that please vote.
[2:22:45] >> passes 5, 0 city ordinance
[2:22:47] number 2026 dash 29 an
[2:22:49] ordinance of the city of north
[2:22:50] port florida amending the
[2:22:51] non-district budget for fiscal
[2:22:54] year 2025 to 2026 for
[2:22:56] increased revenue and
[2:22:57] reimbursement and about
[2:22:57] $200,000 providing for
[2:22:59] findings providing for posting
[2:22:59] providing for complex
[2:23:00] providing for severability and
[2:23:02] providing an affected date.
[2:23:03] >> same and your this is your
[2:23:10] item. Thank to department of
[2:23:10] the question increase of
[2:23:14] $200,000 to the fired back
[2:23:16] fun. But it is to reflect it
[2:23:18] sets up a additional get that
[2:23:21] the sufficient budget for the
[2:23:22] corresponding developer
[2:23:23] reverse that payment required
[2:23:24] the west village's politics
[2:23:28] station developer remit based
[2:23:29] on actual effect revenues
[2:23:33] received we asked you to tap
[2:23:34] the wand. Today was approved
[2:23:36] ordinance number 2026 that we
[2:23:37] not ask PRESIDENT And moved to
[2:23:37] second reading on SEPTEMBER
[2:23:40] 22nd 2026. Thank you. MISTER
[2:23:40] Mayor.
[2:23:45] >> thank commission questions
[2:23:54] city clerk public
[2:23:54] >> close
[2:23:57] >> this public hearing request
[2:23:58] motion go ahead and move to
[2:24:01] continue ordinance number 2026
[2:24:04] dash 29 to second reading on
[2:24:08] SEPTEMBER 22nd.
[2:24:08] >> 2026 and.
[2:24:09] >> have a motion on the floor
[2:24:12] to continue ordinance 2026
[2:24:14] dash 2019 2nd reading on
[2:24:15] SEPTEMBER 22nd 2026 made by
[2:24:17] vice mayor seconded by
[2:24:18] commissioner deval there's
[2:24:21] nothing to that please vote
[2:24:28] that passes 5 to 0. Moving
[2:24:29] resolution resolution number
[2:24:35] 2026 dash r dash 54. Can be
[2:24:36] read by title please
[2:24:39] resolution number 2026 dash r
[2:24:40] dash 54 resolution of
[2:24:40] the city of north port, fl
[2:24:43] amending city commission
[2:24:44] policy 2020 dash 0, related to
[2:24:46] the issuance of ceremony
[2:24:47] items, including skew the city
[2:24:48] providing for complex
[2:24:48] providing for severability and
[2:24:52] providing an affected date.
[2:24:55] >> thank you commission
[2:24:56] questions are you introduce
[2:24:59] the item go ahead and decided
[2:25:01] to commission before and this
[2:25:02] is the resolution update the
[2:25:04] policy based on the commission
[2:25:07] direction I did speak during
[2:25:09] the one on ones and our that
[2:25:10] commissioner steps difference
[2:25:10] up to my attention and that
[2:25:12] was that I had to be
[2:25:16] presented. In NOVEMBER JUNE
[2:25:18] and NOVEMBER, which looking it
[2:25:18] would be after the years that
[2:25:19] we have an election year that
[2:25:22] commissioners will be leaving.
[2:25:24] So I did include a motion on
[2:25:24] your suggest emotions to
[2:25:25] change that inside this policy
[2:25:28] to have it presented and the
[2:25:36] months of MARCH and OCTOBER.
[2:25:37] >> commission
[2:25:38] >> questions commissioners
[2:25:39] yeah I just want to thank you
[2:25:43] city clerk this will allow you
[2:25:44] know for it not to interfere,
[2:25:47] so we would have a situation
[2:25:48] if we've new commissioners on
[2:25:50] when when we were actually
[2:25:56] same. You know issuing.
[2:25:57] >> key to cities, someone and
[2:25:58] they MAY not have had anything
[2:26:01] to do with the actual vote we
[2:26:03] want to do is kind of just
[2:26:03] moves couple months so so
[2:26:06] thank make sense.
[2:26:08] >> somebody else public
[2:26:11] comment. There's not. Close
[2:26:21] this public request, a motion.
[2:26:21] >> solutions number when when
[2:26:25] he or as result.
[2:26:26] >> there should be a second
[2:26:26] motion our commissioners
[2:26:28] about. To make the changes
[2:26:34] that I just don't tell.
[2:26:41] >> just
[2:26:51] >> we stand for.
[2:26:52] >> past present one has the
[2:26:54] dates the months to present
[2:26:54] that NOVEMBER, so I changed so
[2:26:55] there's a second suggest a
[2:27:00] motion on there.
[2:27:02] >> why move without those
[2:27:04] solutions over 2026
[2:27:06] >> your mic on. It's flashing
[2:27:21] over.
[2:27:24] >> to resolution 20 to 26 show
[2:27:29] 54 as amending section 3 seem
[2:27:31] read the city commission will
[2:27:33] consider a complete qualifying
[2:27:34] request for a key to the city
[2:27:35] twice per year during his
[2:27:36] schedule city commission
[2:27:38] meeting in the months of
[2:27:39] FEBRUARY and SEPTEMBER for
[2:27:42] presentation in MARCH and
[2:27:42] OCTOBER the key to the city
[2:27:47] MAY only be issued upon a
[2:27:56] >> thank motion on the spent
[2:27:56] seconded by commissioner duval
[2:27:57] there's nothing to have please
[2:28:14] vote. And passes. Moving us. I
[2:28:20] 26 dash 0, 9, 7, discussion
[2:28:23] and possible action regarding
[2:28:26] setting a donation of
[2:28:26] $8,534.32 from the kiwanis
[2:28:29] club of port.
[2:28:32] >> for the purchase and
[2:28:34] installation of displays of
[2:28:35] its and associated materials
[2:28:39] for storybook stroll pine
[2:28:41] bark, located 4, by 6
[2:28:46] mackinnon drive north 3, 4, 2,
[2:28:46] 8, 7,
[2:28:48] >> city manager this is your
[2:28:49] think that's based really fast
[2:28:54] you choose to accept that a
[2:28:54] double bye for to sit on the
[2:29:00] kiwanis club of poor for the
[2:29:01] purchases later this play is
[2:29:02] that it's an associate of
[2:29:03] materials is start pro located
[2:29:06] 4, 6, come and drive into
[2:29:07] work. 4, 2, 7, it would have
[2:29:08] answer any questions you MAY
[2:29:09] have.
[2:29:16] >> questions commissioners.
[2:29:17] >> vice thank you MISTER Mayor
[2:29:20] just just a comment. This
[2:29:22] program has been a long time
[2:29:26] coming and I'm delighted that
[2:29:27] it's happening and I think
[2:29:31] kevin park is exactly the
[2:29:33] right place to have the
[2:29:34] storybook straw I've seen them
[2:29:35] in other places and they're
[2:29:37] really pretty wonderful so
[2:29:37] thank you took a lot us for
[2:29:41] that donation.
[2:29:42] >> just for a correction
[2:29:48] that's pine mackinnon drive to
[2:29:51] >> kevin
[2:29:52] >> if there's nobody else do
[2:30:07] we have any public comment.
[2:30:09] >> commissioners about 6 years
[2:30:11] ago I was at a columbus
[2:30:13] convention and that's where
[2:30:16] were talking about storybook
[2:30:17] stroll I had never heard of
[2:30:18] that before and all of a
[2:30:19] sudden as I was sitting there
[2:30:20] I was like oh my goodness we
[2:30:23] can do this in port and while
[2:30:24] it shouldn't take that long to
[2:30:28] come up with GOD. 8 $9,000 we
[2:30:28] have things like hurricanes
[2:30:31] and other things. That have
[2:30:34] prevented us from getting it.
[2:30:35] The money to you guys quicker,
[2:30:40] but we did apply for some
[2:30:41] grants and I'd like to tell
[2:30:43] you that the kids that live in
[2:30:45] that line park neighborhood go
[2:30:46] to glen allen and lamar
[2:30:49] elementary school. That's
[2:30:53] they're at 50 to 80% free and
[2:30:54] reduced lunch, that means that
[2:30:56] they are already getting help
[2:30:57] with a reading and math and
[2:31:00] science because there
[2:31:01] potentially a little bit the
[2:31:04] fish and in that. So we like
[2:31:06] that story but still well off
[2:31:09] for them, a free book. It will
[2:31:11] offer them the ability to
[2:31:14] read. Something different we
[2:31:16] love the fact that we're able
[2:31:18] to partner with the city parks
[2:31:21] and recreation and we also
[2:31:22] would love in the future when
[2:31:26] it is actually built have the
[2:31:27] day for kids well the kiwanis
[2:31:31] club give out books and our
[2:31:32] PRESIDENT Jacqueline is here
[2:31:34] she actually has thank very
[2:31:39] much for consideration.
[2:31:40] >> you can turn that over to
[2:31:41] the commission we will keep it
[2:31:45] in good keeping.
[2:31:46] >> anything else you would you
[2:31:46] like to say a few words.
[2:31:53] >> thank you so much for
[2:31:54] setting our should parking
[2:31:58] wrecks and everyone thank you.
[2:32:01] >> if we city clerk if we put
[2:32:03] them on our next proclamation
[2:32:03] meeting they have a big check
[2:32:04] that they would
[2:32:10] >> like to. Is that too. Parks
[2:32:11] and on that day when we do our
[2:32:12] wards proclamations if we can
[2:32:16] schedule that. Thank you.
[2:32:21] Request a motion.
[2:32:23] >> I moved to accept a
[2:32:28] donation of a $1534.32 from
[2:32:30] the kiwanis club of north port
[2:32:32] for the purchase and
[2:32:33] installation of display
[2:32:37] exhibits and associated
[2:32:37] materials.
[2:32:38] >> to support the storybook
[2:32:42] stroll at pine park located at
[2:32:47] 5, 4, 5, 5, 6 mckibben drive.
[2:32:48] >> and the motion on the floor
[2:32:50] made by vice mayor to have a
[2:32:51] second serious second and a
[2:32:52] second by commissioner stokes
[2:32:58] there's nothing to that please
[2:33:01] and that passes 5 to thank you
[2:33:06] very much on club of port.
[2:33:07] >> but on to item b 26 dash 1,
[2:33:12] 0, 2, 1, discussion and
[2:33:15] possible action regarding art
[2:33:16] advisory board a
[2:33:16] recommendation memorandum for
[2:33:18] halloween the sculpture
[2:33:19] project. MISTER Says your
[2:33:22] item.
[2:33:27] >> MARCH 2620 24 commission
[2:33:28] this art installation by
[2:33:29] MISTER How again and we hate
[2:33:32] him to payments about $13,695
[2:33:36] each so he's been paid and a
[2:33:40] total 27,390 $1000 he has not
[2:33:45] completed the project. So that
[2:33:46] our board recommended that
[2:33:47] commission direct the city
[2:33:47] attorney to take see what
[2:33:50] action can be taken. Get the
[2:33:54] money back from MISTER Hall of
[2:33:56] >> okay has she made any types
[2:33:58] of and talent. I mean is he in
[2:34:00] the middle of the process had
[2:34:02] do we have any communications
[2:34:03] from yes we do I don't know
[2:34:04] the exact details on some of
[2:34:08] you might know about this or.
[2:34:09] >> MISTER Allen is that he is
[2:34:09] not able to complete the
[2:34:13] project at all okay so it
[2:34:14] could be that could be our
[2:34:15] meeting the course of action
[2:34:18] absolutely no that's fine. I
[2:34:18] just didn't know what the
[2:34:21] process we were at and
[2:34:21] commission questions
[2:34:28] discussions. City clerk public
[2:34:34] I'm going to request a motion.
[2:34:35] >> I make it go and move to
[2:34:36] direct city attorney doesn't
[2:34:37] demand letter MISTER Halligan
[2:34:40] for the incomplete project.
[2:34:41] >> have a motion on the floor
[2:34:41] made by commissioner spoke
[2:34:44] just second. Second seconded
[2:34:47] by vice mayor. If there's
[2:34:54] nothing to please passes 5 to
[2:35:03] 0. Moving on to item 26 dash
[2:35:04] 0, 2, 5, discussion and
[2:35:06] possible action regarding
[2:35:08] parks and recreation advisory
[2:35:09] board recommendation
[2:35:12] memorandum for canine club the
[2:35:12] rainbow bridge.
[2:35:16] >> and circle or wetland
[2:35:18] conservation.
[2:35:19] >> pass this is your guess
[2:35:20] this is also another
[2:35:20] memorandum from the parks and
[2:35:21] recreation advisory board I
[2:35:24] believe miller does have more
[2:35:32] information on this.
[2:35:35] >> is o k the other a little
[2:35:36] sand easy information keeper
[2:35:43] that school.
[2:35:43] >> patricia his assistant
[2:35:44] parks and recreation as well
[2:35:48] as liaison to recognize
[2:35:50] report. 2 items came forward
[2:35:51] to are correct advisory board
[2:35:54] from the public one
[2:35:54] conservation area for the well
[2:35:57] is located behind the circle
[2:36:00] of I'm asking requesting that
[2:36:02] area. He said as a
[2:36:03] conservation zone. Through our
[2:36:08] planning and zoning MARCH
[2:36:09] basically would be the start
[2:36:10] of preserving some of that
[2:36:11] area we did speak public works
[2:36:16] and it is owned by road
[2:36:16] drainage and there's no
[2:36:17] intended use for parcel so it
[2:36:18] would not affect them we were
[2:36:23] to I second item is a rainbow
[2:36:25] bridge, another item brought
[2:36:26] forward by community member
[2:36:29] and presented to the park or
[2:36:30] recognize report. The was a
[2:36:31] very large scale one located
[2:36:36] in north carolina and it had
[2:36:37] some problems with the initial
[2:36:38] projection they looking at the
[2:36:41] white house you buy a little
[2:36:43] part. During times of high
[2:36:44] water hurricanes we can have a
[2:36:46] lot of items that are you know
[2:36:48] last missing that type of
[2:36:49] thing. So we kind of talked
[2:36:53] through the process and they
[2:36:55] kind of landed on a small
[2:36:57] footbridge that would be
[2:36:57] located in the canine club
[2:37:02] that's already existing the
[2:37:02] clock's to be purchased
[2:37:03] through the city's tribute
[2:37:04] existing program where you can
[2:37:10] do more lies your pat at that
[2:37:11] so I'm looking approximately a
[2:37:12] $1500 cost we would be looking
[2:37:14] to probably locally. You know
[2:37:15] get some donations towards
[2:37:19] those materials.
[2:37:19] >> I had a question about that
[2:37:24] because I've seen some of
[2:37:24] these and pictures of and with
[2:37:25] that little foot bridge in
[2:37:32] now. What is allow for the
[2:37:34] citizens because put their
[2:37:36] memorandum of collars from
[2:37:38] their pets on that to display
[2:37:39] when we allow that to be able
[2:37:41] to do that we currently have
[2:37:42] ordinance that no personal
[2:37:43] property is permitted to be
[2:37:44] left in park, so that would be
[2:37:45] prohibitive about ordinance
[2:37:46] which is why we align it with
[2:37:50] the tribute program.
[2:37:50] >> where they could actually
[2:37:51] purchased the and installed a
[2:37:56] plaque on the actual bridge.
[2:37:56] >> we MAY have to look into
[2:37:57] that a little bit further down
[2:38:02] the road because I don't want
[2:38:02] to be like ok. Yes you've got
[2:38:04] to get plaque from parks and
[2:38:05] rec it MAY not mean as much to
[2:38:09] them as leaving the caller
[2:38:10] there for other participants,
[2:38:10] so we'll look into that in the
[2:38:14] future. The the other one that
[2:38:16] I had to about the
[2:38:18] conservation area feel that
[2:38:19] that's a great opportunity to
[2:38:20] be able to utilize his
[2:38:21] property and just leave it to
[2:38:23] be and let nature take over.
[2:38:24] You know just leave it like
[2:38:26] that because it does it is
[2:38:27] part of the circle of our so I
[2:38:30] mean. I appreciate that for
[2:38:32] for this coming up.
[2:38:35] Commissioner ball.
[2:38:41] >> what but everything staff I
[2:38:46] asked the ball. The rebel
[2:38:47] ridge. You know about cost to
[2:38:50] the city of maintenance. You
[2:38:53] know we've got to pay bill has
[2:38:53] staff asked them around it is
[2:38:57] one of the bay. I was assured
[2:39:05] by staff that the. Items baugh
[2:39:12] from city. In people's pets to
[2:39:12] be placed on the grid when
[2:39:17] colder those costs. You know I
[2:39:20] was originally against israeli
[2:39:20] rebel ridge just because
[2:39:21] maintenance of the cost
[2:39:23] whatever, but todd.
[2:39:26] Staff advised me that would be
[2:39:34] color. The second conservation
[2:39:37] is basically a drain behind
[2:39:40] and you know talked with.
[2:39:46] Citizens as part of certain
[2:39:46] will honor it would be you
[2:39:48] know walk around there just.
[2:39:52] Article. Repose reflection to
[2:39:55] be added to so they are so I
[2:39:58] think that's a good thing.
[2:40:02] That's vice mayor.
[2:40:04] >> thank you MISTER Mayor I I
[2:40:07] would suggest to ever wants to
[2:40:08] make a motion on this item
[2:40:11] that we separate the they
[2:40:12] might be a little different,
[2:40:15] you know do one on the rainbow
[2:40:18] bridge and one on the wetland
[2:40:19] conservation. I think the
[2:40:22] wetland conservation I also
[2:40:23] have chatted with multiple
[2:40:26] people on that end. And I
[2:40:31] agree for me it's a
[2:40:32] no-brainer. The rainbow bridge
[2:40:37] I have mixed feelings so. I
[2:40:41] like the approach of tying it
[2:40:42] into our tribute program
[2:40:43] because it would help find
[2:40:48] that.
[2:40:49] >> but I but I also get that
[2:40:52] people might want to leave a
[2:40:54] color their particularly on
[2:40:54] that I do I'm very interested
[2:40:55] in what other commissioners
[2:40:57] have to say.
[2:40:58] >> a little on the fence about
[2:41:01] that.
[2:41:04] >> commissioner thank you
[2:41:05] mayor. I concur with
[2:41:06] commissioner vice mayor
[2:41:14] london. Time separating the 2.
[2:41:19] And I lowering I have a
[2:41:21] question all buying by our
[2:41:22] citizens, you know play so
[2:41:28] like whatever call it.
[2:41:29] >> to place up there and yet
[2:41:30] we've the city have to
[2:41:31] maintain that and do all this
[2:41:33] work at the taxpayers money.
[2:41:39] At tax payers expense. So what
[2:41:41] are only commission and duval
[2:41:41] the staff assured him that
[2:41:42] there would recording of the
[2:41:49] cost. But this venue but it
[2:41:49] small team at how do we know
[2:41:51] for sure happens tomorrow.
[2:41:56] People not be interested
[2:41:57] >> doing I think we have a
[2:41:59] good market in people who
[2:42:00] frequent the canine club
[2:42:02] already however if there was
[2:42:04] not the lumber that would be
[2:42:05] our asked would be for
[2:42:06] donations from some of our
[2:42:10] local building. Organizations
[2:42:11] and that would could be used
[2:42:13] in other ways within the park
[2:42:14] system, there's always words
[2:42:16] that have to be replaced on
[2:42:17] boardwalks are other things so
[2:42:17] there wasn't it would be an
[2:42:21] easy removal itself. It's 68
[2:42:23] drive bridge. It's not a a
[2:42:30] very large composition.
[2:42:33] >> but the if you cross
[2:42:37] bridges in the city and to
[2:42:37] maintain and prepare or
[2:42:41] reconstruct. We've seen that
[2:42:42] those costs can be very
[2:42:47] expense. So I'm just like come
[2:42:48] on the fence with this one as
[2:42:49] well hoping to see what other
[2:42:55] commissions. Have to but it's
[2:42:57] known $2 it's just more of
[2:43:00] responsibility of our.
[2:43:01] Possible use of our tax payers
[2:43:08] money for project.
[2:43:09] >> all the way that I look at
[2:43:11] it is just like if we put up a
[2:43:12] swing set up are you know,
[2:43:13] we've got to maintain that
[2:43:17] take care of that we've got
[2:43:18] monumental bunches out there
[2:43:20] in memory of so and so you
[2:43:21] know I I believe that the
[2:43:23] maintenance on this is maybe
[2:43:24] payment every 5 years if
[2:43:24] needed and we need around it
[2:43:29] so you're talking about a 2
[2:43:29] minute so I I don't see the
[2:43:30] big issue on maintenance on
[2:43:33] this itself, you know and and
[2:43:33] coming down across time, I'm
[2:43:36] sure a volunteer would come in
[2:43:36] and thank the thing and
[2:43:41] probably half an hour so
[2:43:41] that's why I look at it I
[2:43:42] think it's I think it's a
[2:43:43] great idea and and we've got
[2:43:44] pet owners out there that
[2:43:45] maybe a little subsection of
[2:43:48] our community that really like
[2:43:49] I understand is not
[2:43:52] everybody's cup of tea, but
[2:43:53] I'm a pat or I would
[2:43:53] appreciate it, you know they
[2:43:56] for my pat.
[2:43:57] >> and just to be clear it's
[2:43:59] not a bridge that's
[2:44:00] constructed for certain levels
[2:44:03] of traffic it's it's more of a
[2:44:03] decorative small and it's
[2:44:04] going to be said not where
[2:44:05] people would you know using it
[2:44:12] to cross a waterway.
[2:44:16] >> do we have leading public
[2:44:17] comment yet.
[2:44:17] >> there is no public comment
[2:44:18] and there are 2 suggest
[2:44:22] emotions for each
[2:44:24] >> you're ahead of the game or
[2:44:27] I am going to request
[2:44:28] emotionally. I'll take a shot
[2:44:32] one of
[2:44:35] >> and that to address city
[2:44:37] manager to evaluate placing
[2:44:38] the wetland portion of parcel
[2:44:40] identification number 0, 9, 7,
[2:44:45] 9, 0, 0, 2000 under
[2:44:46] conservation as part of the
[2:44:50] circle of honor including any
[2:44:53] necessary legal environmental
[2:44:53] survey land management
[2:44:57] maintenance and budget
[2:44:57] considerations and to bring
[2:45:00] the proposed implementation
[2:45:01] that to the city commission
[2:45:01] for consideration.
[2:45:07] >> motion on the floor by vice
[2:45:09] mayor seconded by
[2:45:10] >> commissioner stokes there's
[2:45:18] nothing to that for him.
[2:45:20] Passes 5, 0, you know the
[2:45:33] motion. I to direct the city
[2:45:35] manager the to develop details
[2:45:37] necessary to implement the
[2:45:38] installation of a rainbow
[2:45:39] bridge at the canine club
[2:45:42] including amending the
[2:45:43] administrative regulations.
[2:45:44] >> for the tribune program to
[2:45:44] include the purchase supplies
[2:45:48] for pet owners too. Purpose of
[2:45:49] memory of their deceased and
[2:45:50] also including the creation
[2:45:56] of. Related procedures
[2:45:57] standards ethical harry uhl's
[2:46:00] cost recovery fees and to
[2:46:01] bring the proposed
[2:46:02] implementation plan back to
[2:46:02] the city commission for
[2:46:05] consideration.
[2:46:09] >> motion on the floor made by
[2:46:19] our city.
[2:46:26] >> when how old they are also
[2:46:31] 2
[2:46:32] >> so we have a motion on the
[2:46:33] floor to move the city manager
[2:46:38] to develop the details
[2:46:39] necessary to implement the
[2:46:40] installation of a rainbow
[2:46:40] bridge if the canine club city
[2:46:43] clerk do you have the rest of
[2:46:45] that case made our city mayor.
[2:46:49] Do I hear a second. Also.
[2:46:52] Seconded by commissioner duval
[2:46:53] if there's no more to that
[2:47:01] let's vote. And that motion
[2:47:06] passes 5 to 0.
[2:47:14] >> thank you did a
[2:47:19] commissioners of
[2:47:24] >> moving on to 26 dash 1, 0,
[2:47:27] 5, discussion possible action
[2:47:29] regarding acting unified land
[2:47:30] development regulations
[2:47:34] concerned data center's this
[2:47:35] was requested by commissioner
[2:47:36] stokes
[2:47:36] says MISTER Foss is going to
[2:47:37] introduce this item.
[2:47:42] >> this is a
[2:47:44] >> thank you very much
[2:47:48] commissioner stops this is
[2:47:49] your items.
[2:47:49] >> well, you know in our
[2:47:50] discussions about we've
[2:47:51] already you know kind of
[2:47:53] discussed the idea regulation.
[2:47:55] I think there's been plenty
[2:48:00] additional discussion about.
[2:48:01] >> how bill forry for 01:00am
[2:48:04] harris will interact and west
[2:48:05] priority and what we can
[2:48:09] legally do what we can really
[2:48:09] do it.
[2:48:10] >> none of that is the concern
[2:48:12] of this particular item for
[2:48:14] discussion possible action in
[2:48:16] my mind it was to formally
[2:48:18] give direction to the city
[2:48:18] attorney to go out and work
[2:48:24] diligently in a timely fashion
[2:48:25] draft foreign set a gold
[2:48:26] standard regulations whether
[2:48:30] includes protections. I don't
[2:48:36] care I want credibly. Strong
[2:48:38] set of regulations that
[2:48:39] address work our air quality
[2:48:43] and sound that are with in vol
[2:48:44] au for you to bring that to on
[2:48:48] a monthly basis tough day in a
[2:48:50] workshop, so that the public
[2:48:52] as well as commission can
[2:48:55] provide some input and should
[2:48:56] be a transparent process to
[2:48:56] put together whatever we can
[2:49:01] put together. As far as
[2:49:05] regulations. It was spent
[2:49:08] there legal strength or lack
[2:49:09] of legal straight that's not
[2:49:12] making we need to regulations
[2:49:13] and we also perhaps you can to
[2:49:19] bear in mind that. As a city.
[2:49:21] We have not yet dealt with
[2:49:25] industrial development here
[2:49:26] any extent and I think part of
[2:49:26] this process should be to take
[2:49:29] a look as well. Regulation
[2:49:33] that addresses. Industrial
[2:49:38] development as well because
[2:49:39] they say there's maybe only
[2:49:40] one of a number of types of
[2:49:42] projects industrial projects
[2:49:44] that MAY come before they have
[2:49:47] impact on the on sale only
[2:49:47] same areas and they need to be
[2:49:49] addressed as the city. We need
[2:49:56] to. Put together we need bring
[2:49:56] him before the commission and
[2:50:00] the public for everybody's and
[2:50:01] then figure out what we want
[2:50:03] to whether we can and that
[2:50:05] just before one 80 runs out or
[2:50:08] not is separate and apart a
[2:50:09] discussion that we could talk
[2:50:12] about for a century and never
[2:50:14] saw because that's going to be
[2:50:14] adjudicated in a court of law
[2:50:17] I have no doubt at some point
[2:50:20] but we need these regulations
[2:50:20] so happy to hear what
[2:50:22] everybody else on the say
[2:50:23] because we need to give clear
[2:50:24] direction and get this process
[2:50:24] going in my
[2:50:30] thank you vice
[2:50:33] >> thank you city attorney it
[2:50:34] was my understanding that we
[2:50:38] already gave you this
[2:50:40] direction. In the reading of
[2:50:42] the ordinance so I guess I'm
[2:50:45] asking for your understanding
[2:50:47] of where the direction to
[2:50:52] create those regulations. Our.
[2:50:57] >> well second rate impending
[2:50:57] right so.
[2:50:58] >> and issue discussed talked
[2:51:05] to just to be. Kerry because
[2:51:08] they said you want you're
[2:51:13] doing for the last years maybe
[2:51:15] longer something about it
[2:51:19] later all that's all for
[2:51:19] discussion.
[2:51:21] >> I'm very much inclined to
[2:51:22] focus on data centers now
[2:51:27] since it's such an immediate
[2:51:28] issue. I also have some
[2:51:29] concerns and some thoughts
[2:51:31] about how we should proceed in
[2:51:35] that industrial use category
[2:51:36] that personally I don't feel
[2:51:36] equipped to have a
[2:51:39] conversation on that today.
[2:51:45] My. Suggestion would be that
[2:51:46] we focus on data centers. I
[2:51:47] think we have all acknowledged
[2:51:54] that. And I'm so when we
[2:51:55] approved the moratorium one of
[2:51:58] the most important pieces of
[2:52:01] work is getting those
[2:52:02] regulations and guardrails in
[2:52:05] place and voted on and into
[2:52:06] our uldc and that we do that
[2:52:12] as quickly as possible. I
[2:52:15] don't know as monthly is the
[2:52:15] right time frame. Kind of open
[2:52:16] to that but I'd be interested
[2:52:17] in what my fellow
[2:52:18] commissioners have to say.
[2:52:27] Many here in ball.
[2:52:28] >> but question first I
[2:52:39] believe support it. Edition so
[2:52:40] additional commissioner stokes
[2:52:46] com going to talk about.
[2:52:47] Quality okay. Why does also a
[2:52:52] part of this okay. You know we
[2:52:54] all there's a number over
[2:52:58] love. Properties in the city
[2:53:01] the role of wells. We have a
[2:53:04] any kind of industry that is
[2:53:06] going lower the water table.
[2:53:11] You know that could affect
[2:53:12] thousands of people in the
[2:53:22] city. And I'm sure as city
[2:53:23] attorney worse things you but
[2:53:24] with some of things you one of
[2:53:28] would too. Comparatively for
[2:53:32] all their cities. Regarding
[2:53:35] you know. The best practices
[2:53:37] on the way that you know we
[2:53:39] could protect the city. For
[2:53:43] all. Consequences that we
[2:53:48] really do I have. That's it
[2:53:51] for me thank thank you. Sir
[2:53:57] commissioner federal thank you
[2:53:58] the subject water and I concur
[2:54:00] with vice mayor length and
[2:54:01] then commission to vote on the
[2:54:05] monthly updates monthly.
[2:54:06] Schedule if you will about
[2:54:15] stopped. But water. Such vital
[2:54:19] component a life's 70% of each
[2:54:21] one of consist more or water.
[2:54:27] And if we're contaminated the
[2:54:28] quality of life and
[2:54:31] everybody's affected. With
[2:54:38] this scale. Data is that. You
[2:54:40] know I just wonder what
[2:54:41] motivates the people more
[2:54:44] than. The quality of life and
[2:54:46] that's obviously in this case
[2:54:47] and my personal perception is
[2:54:51] money. And the u you know
[2:54:56] specifically said that also.
[2:54:58] Crypto mining whatever
[2:54:58] accountability of this data
[2:54:59] center so. Crypto mining is
[2:55:01] one of the most profitable
[2:55:05] mining. Modern days. You know
[2:55:12] college and probably but we
[2:55:14] cannot sacrifice quality of
[2:55:14] life and a specifically want
[2:55:22] to. The direction looking into
[2:55:25] this subject the and that is
[2:55:31] water. A 23 73.2 6, 2,
[2:55:35] specifically governments,
[2:55:36] let's scale. They decide is it
[2:55:36] requires they water used to be
[2:55:39] consistent. But local zoning
[2:55:45] and comprehensive it says what
[2:55:46] patient MAY not be issued when
[2:55:48] the proposed use would be
[2:55:49] harmful to the area's water
[2:55:52] resources. And one of reasons
[2:55:59] one of them. Overhead but the
[2:55:59] local regulations. So in my
[2:56:03] view we should the focus to
[2:56:06] the welfare of our and like
[2:56:06] and I was going to mention the
[2:56:09] same thing about what are also
[2:56:13] a lot of people and the senate
[2:56:15] our area low on water wells.
[2:56:19] It's even going to clean or
[2:56:23] and it depends skill
[2:56:23] large-scale they decide that
[2:56:27] we don't even know how big it
[2:56:28] we know the square footage, we
[2:56:29] know that building footprint
[2:56:31] but we don't know if it's 50
[2:56:34] megawatts it's 40 if it's 30
[2:56:38] 70. And what they you know
[2:56:40] proposed plans of how it's
[2:56:41] going to be done whether it's
[2:56:42] a substation or whatever it
[2:56:44] was still going to be used. So
[2:56:48] I just wanted to direct our.
[2:56:52] Attention and maybe make a
[2:56:53] motion to direct the city
[2:56:55] attorney specifically looking
[2:56:57] to that as legally authorized
[2:57:06] water study scale data sent to
[2:57:07] do critical mind you have to
[2:57:09] have a large scale data center
[2:57:10] still not just data center
[2:57:13] that brings me to that is
[2:57:19] notion again status I'm not.
[2:57:20] Davis said data center
[2:57:20] large-scale type of scale data
[2:57:26] center different. Tough
[2:57:27] animal. With is that we have
[2:57:30] seen from the discussion up to
[2:57:32] this point that even
[2:57:33] development does not know all
[2:57:35] the details and when we had
[2:57:38] workshop. We could really.
[2:57:39] Getting answers because it
[2:57:42] would project specific.
[2:57:44] Defense in the project. We did
[2:57:49] not know. You know the
[2:57:49] direction of developer what
[2:57:56] it's going to be. So having I
[2:57:58] want to direct the city
[2:58:01] attorney. You know to that
[2:58:02] specific area of water to do
[2:58:11] that. As legally as possible
[2:58:12] to restrict condition or deny
[2:58:13] approval of a new proposed
[2:58:13] large-scale data center within
[2:58:20] the city. You know because.
[2:58:21] Water resource protections for
[2:58:26] us. For humans as opposed to.
[2:58:32] You know probably driven.
[2:58:33] Schools and I'm open you know
[2:58:38] to listen to my fellow
[2:58:39] commissioners. How to direct
[2:58:41] the city attorney or is
[2:58:42] commission stokes does
[2:58:43] proposition doesn't include
[2:58:48] that. I just want to be more
[2:58:48] detail oriented when we talk
[2:58:50] about the water. Thank you
[2:58:54] mayor.
[2:58:56] >> I just have a question from
[2:59:00] commissioners stokes is it
[2:59:01] your intention to enable this
[2:59:02] work to begin before a second
[2:59:03] reading to kind of pull these
[2:59:06] regulations of the moratorium
[2:59:09] language. I mean we can lead
[2:59:10] and they are but you know what
[2:59:14] I'm saying to accelerate the
[2:59:16] it was my intention to give
[2:59:21] from direction to begin right
[2:59:21] now.
[2:59:22] >> because irrespective of
[2:59:23] this application or any
[2:59:27] application or any uses. I
[2:59:30] agree, let's start with but we
[2:59:32] need to do this and we need to
[2:59:34] get to work on and it is going
[2:59:35] to be a process because as we
[2:59:37] can none of us know exactly
[2:59:40] what to ask for yet. And we
[2:59:41] don't even know what's
[2:59:44] involved in this particular
[2:59:45] application yet, but I would
[2:59:47] say that we need to begin
[2:59:47] somewhere and that's what I'm
[2:59:48] trying to do is give direction
[2:59:52] to start process and then see
[2:59:54] it evolve. That's why I think
[2:59:55] the monthly you know updates
[2:59:57] are important in a workshop
[2:59:58] environment because not only
[3:00:01] will we have ideas in question
[3:00:03] but so the general public and
[3:00:05] this process needs include
[3:00:05] everybody kind development our
[3:00:09] city affects everybody and it
[3:00:12] can't be done in the dark can
[3:00:15] be by anyone needs to be done
[3:00:16] collectively by everybody to
[3:00:18] see health and welfare the
[3:00:20] city is protected so long way
[3:00:22] answer your question. Yes,
[3:00:27] >> but that idea.
[3:00:29] >> the one thing sort of
[3:00:30] concerned about is I
[3:00:30] understand the monthly I agree
[3:00:34] with the monthly updates. But
[3:00:35] depending on how far we go
[3:00:36] I've got no issues with having
[3:00:39] it at a workshop. But what if
[3:00:41] there's just not enough
[3:00:42] information as we move along
[3:00:43] to work we can use at least of
[3:00:47] the agenda item to go ahead
[3:00:49] and discuss it I just want to
[3:00:50] put that out there to where if
[3:00:52] he's only got like a 5 minute
[3:00:53] update we're not really
[3:00:54] passionate about to have a
[3:00:57] special meeting as workshop,
[3:00:58] public stolen by public but to
[3:00:59] be involved given public
[3:01:02] comment but. Instead of having
[3:01:03] a full long workshop for
[3:01:05] little information. It has an
[3:01:09] agenda item I just want the
[3:01:12] the attorney to have that
[3:01:13] going forward I just want to
[3:01:18] make monthly basis part of
[3:01:20] meeting agenda whether it's
[3:01:22] the jet that was to worship
[3:01:24] that we wore a part of this
[3:01:29] process sure 6 months get a
[3:01:33] pile of regulations that input
[3:01:34] okay, we should be part of
[3:01:36] this process that's right. I
[3:01:37] just hate to see put together
[3:01:40] a workshop at there's a day
[3:01:40] and yeah, the citizens have
[3:01:44] chance
[3:01:45] >> we've got the update there
[3:01:46] like well why would come here
[3:01:46] for you know, that's all I
[3:01:50] just hate to say it like
[3:01:51] commissioner petro.
[3:01:55] >> just want to say monthlies
[3:01:57] with not go further than than
[3:02:04] the monthly. A time just
[3:02:04] because you know it's a
[3:02:05] frightened little do agenda
[3:02:09] when the regular meeting. But
[3:02:10] if it's more we can depending
[3:02:16] on mound. But I want to wait 2
[3:02:17] months and you know you know
[3:02:21] technology itself is the vote
[3:02:22] so fast but the I mean it.
[3:02:29] Every time. There's an
[3:02:31] invention. But the time we get
[3:02:32] to come back in 2 months come
[3:02:32] up with some of the plants
[3:02:36] that we have not talked about
[3:02:37] it. So that's just my opinion
[3:02:39] but also question for the
[3:02:39] mayor and for the rest of the
[3:02:45] commission. Doing a specific
[3:02:46] direction to city attorney is
[3:02:50] up right now what we want to
[3:02:51] the more focused on I
[3:02:55] mentioned the 3, 7, 3, 4, 2,
[3:02:56] 6, 2, and I'm sure probably
[3:02:58] listened to that. And that's
[3:02:59] the thing.
[3:03:03] Regulation about large-scale
[3:03:11] data centers on water. Do how
[3:03:14] how specific do go right now
[3:03:16] right now the city attorney is
[3:03:18] in the queue allow and to
[3:03:19] answer the question. First 40
[3:03:20] for legality reasons city
[3:03:23] attorney.
[3:03:34] >> excuse yeah. Show. With as
[3:03:35] you know are going my thing
[3:03:36] have it, but it's probably a
[3:03:41] lot effort within the city
[3:03:44] this well because dlc is about
[3:03:52] steph if we want start it such
[3:03:58] part as I think but for a
[3:03:59] start and so we have to decide
[3:04:05] where that was the it.
[3:04:06] >> and and and that's use so I
[3:04:08] think should be some
[3:04:14] direction. Feels about it. But
[3:04:17] it doesn't become oldest, I
[3:04:20] believe because because I'm
[3:04:21] going to be like law that
[3:04:26] there would well an also I
[3:04:30] mean go that route.
[3:04:31] >> that would mean that this
[3:04:33] could be the first part of
[3:04:35] your process moving forward
[3:04:36] we're getting but all the
[3:04:37] ducks in order what we want to
[3:04:39] do this is part of you've
[3:04:40] gather in the information on
[3:04:41] where we want to go as well so
[3:04:42] putting a plan together is
[3:04:46] probably states want.
[3:04:47] >> but go ahead commissioner,
[3:04:48] and and good point there
[3:04:51] because that's that's why the
[3:04:52] state speak collaborative
[3:04:53] process. The first is to come
[3:04:55] up with a plan on how we're
[3:04:57] going attack this and I don't
[3:04:59] disagree city attorney that
[3:05:00] there needs to be important
[3:05:01] and I should have had that not
[3:05:03] just input from this
[3:05:04] commission input from the
[3:05:07] public input from staff and
[3:05:09] import most importantly from
[3:05:11] third-party professionals who
[3:05:14] have perhaps wall this war
[3:05:16] before in other jurisdictions
[3:05:18] because I truly do believe
[3:05:20] that level of objectivity and
[3:05:21] transparency is important here
[3:05:24] because have been many
[3:05:26] allegations MAY personally I
[3:05:31] feel but never last MAY that I
[3:05:32] goal to need for objectivity
[3:05:33] with regard to the process of
[3:05:37] of preparing drafting and
[3:05:41] enacting any regulations so
[3:05:42] whatever it takes and that's
[3:05:43] why this monthly update
[3:05:46] process allows us to keep
[3:05:51] tweeting process and just to
[3:05:52] get you want to be in a
[3:05:55] direction as commissioner
[3:05:55] petro said they're all lying
[3:05:59] areas to wrap our heads around
[3:06:00] and you know a lot of
[3:06:02] resources to draw from order
[3:06:03] to do so you know we don't
[3:06:08] know. Today that's why it
[3:06:09] needs to be more of a general
[3:06:10] direction and then sort of
[3:06:11] walk this process forward
[3:06:13] expand that as we go. I mean
[3:06:18] so making sense. Yeah and as
[3:06:18] we have these updates to we
[3:06:21] can figure out. You know just
[3:06:26] like he says is collaborative.
[3:06:26] >> let's say we have another
[3:06:27] agenda item saying he brings
[3:06:29] it back this is our game plan.
[3:06:32] We wanted to study a b and c
[3:06:34] and then we know which
[3:06:35] departments going to you know
[3:06:36] in charge of those studies are
[3:06:37] overseeing those studies
[3:06:40] getting those studies taking
[3:06:41] the reins will be a
[3:06:45] collaborative you know.
[3:06:46] Initiative between the whole
[3:06:47] city working together so yeah
[3:06:48] I agree with you we need to
[3:06:51] go. General get a game plan
[3:06:56] move forward. Anybody else.
[3:07:05] City clerk public comment.
[3:07:06] >> person I have problems and
[3:07:06] the all by samuel and diane
[3:07:16] conrad.
[3:07:17] >> commission is still too
[3:07:18] kind of what I say it's a big
[3:07:21] need thank it has to be will
[3:07:25] specific.
[3:07:29] >> it can't just grouped under
[3:07:31] a blanket use industrial heavy
[3:07:31] industrial intensive. It's got
[3:07:34] to be real specific. It's not
[3:07:36] just the hype. The scale. This
[3:07:39] other centers too. So we need
[3:07:43] to break those down as well if
[3:07:43] we really want to be specific
[3:07:44] and we really want to cover
[3:07:46] the whole gambit you can't
[3:07:49] just focus on just the hyper
[3:07:50] scales as we have to focus on
[3:07:51] the other types of centers
[3:07:54] that are out there well. And
[3:07:55] have that written into our
[3:08:00] cold as well. I appreciate
[3:08:01] you're listening to the
[3:08:01] citizen me because we need to
[3:08:05] be included in this. Also of
[3:08:06] course staff and also an
[3:08:28] outside entity as well. Once
[3:08:29] we've got some kind of the
[3:08:29] plan is all that we've got
[3:08:29] maybe a first or second draft.
[3:08:29] We can then bring it
[3:08:29] consultant to look at this and
[3:08:29] see you know if everything is
[3:08:29] jogging and the citizenry is
[3:08:30] protected as well. Not just
[3:08:30] the city, but the citizen. So
[3:08:30] thank
[3:08:37] >> thank want
[3:08:40] >> ok guys my name is samuel
[3:08:41] turpin given you ordinance
[3:08:42] today everything that you guys
[3:08:45] are saying appears bo ship.
[3:08:47] The ordinance officially
[3:08:48] declaring the legislative
[3:08:50] intent to modify the land
[3:08:52] development regulations all
[3:08:55] the to establish copperhead
[3:08:58] recharge basins a well-done
[3:08:59] utility standards was in
[3:09:02] immediate indication of the
[3:09:03] pending court doctor to today
[3:09:13] for applications consumption
[3:09:19] and utility think rain that
[3:09:20] out 7 counties that have
[3:09:25] already
[3:09:33] >> a charge, all that is said
[3:09:35] and I want to they operate as
[3:09:38] an extensive program its
[3:09:40] development say section 3.0 6.
[3:09:49] Graham protection. Attention
[3:09:51] this study, kevin call it
[3:09:52] straight when will development
[3:09:58] design standards by adopting
[3:10:02] the official put best to meant
[3:10:17] men it. Information that let's
[3:10:26] stop senators. Is a protection
[3:10:42] ordinance chapter shed.
[3:10:48] Recharge he watching this too
[3:10:56] bad that you do not protect
[3:11:08] you want to you need to 32
[3:11:12] seconds estrogen surrounding
[3:11:15] clear that's topic child
[3:11:21] telling that to to ensure part
[3:11:22] action all insists that is not
[3:11:32] lot to at. Sentence what the
[3:11:33] truth that standing here today
[3:11:48] in JUNE of you know.
[3:11:48] >> good
[3:11:51] >> afternoon. My name is diane
[3:11:52] conrad, I've been a citizen of
[3:11:58] port for 35 years. And I'm
[3:11:59] here to demand the immediate
[3:12:04] drafting a permanent wellfield
[3:12:05] protection ordinances written
[3:12:08] directly into our local land
[3:12:08] development regulations under
[3:12:12] florida senate bill 4.84. We
[3:12:13] are done with your delays
[3:12:14] starting to send all this
[3:12:14] #
[3:12:14] #
[3:12:14] #
[3:12:14] #
[3:12:18] .
[3:12:18] >> under the judicial pending
[3:12:19] morton stocked room you have
[3:12:26] the legal authority. Now draft
[3:12:29] these water protections
[3:12:30] instantly freezing any new
[3:12:34] data center applications.
[3:12:35] North port deserves progress
[3:12:40] that respects its land. Water
[3:12:41] wildlife and people and our
[3:12:43] future children. Nobody seems
[3:12:47] to talk about the children.
[3:12:48] They're going to grow up and
[3:12:48] live with pollution.
[3:12:53] So please make the right
[3:12:54] decision for the people and
[3:12:58] their children. And as I'm
[3:12:58] standing sitting here
[3:13:03] watching. It's the same thing
[3:13:09] over and over from you
[3:13:10] >> you need stand out and do
[3:13:15] something for the people. It
[3:13:16] is not right what you're doing
[3:13:17] how did you get yourself into
[3:13:21] this to begin with. Now we
[3:13:21] wouldn't be here if it wasn't
[3:13:24] for young people that signed
[3:13:25] the agreement for the data
[3:13:29] center. So it's up to you fix
[3:13:33] it. With all these people that
[3:13:37] have come to these meetings.
[3:13:43] Please wake
[3:13:43] >> thank you I am so far and
[3:13:58] are yes.
[3:14:06] >> well good afternoon
[3:14:09] everybody. It's nice to be in
[3:14:18] the chamber to for example,
[3:14:18] we've heard some great stuff
[3:14:19] today I want to samuel turban
[3:14:24] a. All right thank robin I
[3:14:27] want to every speaker heard in
[3:14:27] the last 2, 3, weeks in the
[3:14:32] city of port.
[3:14:33] >> we have a real problem with
[3:14:37] the water.
[3:14:38] >> there's no ifs ands or
[3:14:41] butts about it.
[3:14:45] >> we all these there are
[3:14:46] already in place and all of
[3:14:47] these different things that
[3:14:48] have been passed and that are
[3:14:56] there. To protect the wall. To
[3:14:56] protect recharging of the
[3:14:57] intermediate and the surficial
[3:15:08] awful for. We was a phosphate
[3:15:09] they are sucking the life out
[3:15:11] of our awful start.
[3:15:18] >> no only the other
[3:15:20] >> tons of water per year for
[3:15:25] this specific center were all
[3:15:26] talking about.
[3:15:27] >> guess what everybody we do
[3:15:27] have 2 billion gallons of
[3:15:34] excess water. I toll richard
[3:15:35] anderson's previous bosses at
[3:15:36] the peace river water
[3:15:39] authority. That this wasn't
[3:15:41] going to be enough. Expansion
[3:15:47] are doing. That they would
[3:15:49] need to probably 3 reservoirs.
[3:15:54] They didn't the land. I have
[3:15:55] to tell everyone of you right
[3:15:59] now. I should be getting ready
[3:16:03] to fight
[3:16:14] >> to city of north port so
[3:16:18] show
[3:16:19] >> so here's what I want
[3:16:20] everybody in the city of north
[3:16:24] port to to hear. If this does
[3:16:28] it become a hard no. I'm going
[3:16:29] get a lot of people to write a
[3:16:33] letter. We're going to file a
[3:16:33] letter of intent to sue the
[3:16:40] city of port. Understand. For
[3:16:45] threatening the quality of my
[3:16:45] life.
[3:16:46] >> the quality my in brother
[3:16:50] sister in charlotte county.
[3:16:51] >> matter of this is what
[3:16:52] we're going to be doing to
[3:16:55] every county.
[3:16:58] >> her for you are here to
[3:17:02] protect us. Just like I
[3:17:07] protect every one of you.
[3:17:08] Walking down the street he
[3:17:23] said hospital.
[3:17:25] >> any thank you for the
[3:17:27] opportunity to speak because
[3:17:30] my concern is that we address
[3:17:31] multiple issues really we
[3:17:32] recognize that we need to
[3:17:34] create an ordinance did
[3:17:36] business is permitted uses. We
[3:17:39] have to look at not water
[3:17:40] issue. But the talks of
[3:17:41] commons that are being
[3:17:43] released from these data
[3:17:44] centers, current construction
[3:17:46] is using gas fuel and diesel
[3:17:47] fuel generators. Amount of
[3:17:48] toxic carvings that are being
[3:17:53] emitted has become a deal. A
[3:17:54] concern for all communities.
[3:17:57] All you have to do is google a
[3:18:00] county and you'll see multiple
[3:18:00] videos of what they're dealing
[3:18:03] with now since 2024 and the
[3:18:06] toxic. Missions have produced
[3:18:07] and the and the dangerous
[3:18:08] aspects of lung cancer and
[3:18:11] other things is being treated
[3:18:12] there. So when we talk about
[3:18:13] state-of-the-art I would like
[3:18:16] to make sure that we propose
[3:18:17] an ordinance you know going
[3:18:18] above state-of-the-art to
[3:18:20] number one gas field and
[3:18:23] diesel fuel generators and
[3:18:24] instead given our state to
[3:18:25] demand that these type of
[3:18:26] systems use solar and says
[3:18:28] they do have to have a
[3:18:30] tendency in energy they use
[3:18:33] either or magnetic a
[3:18:34] generator, so they become
[3:18:35] self-sufficient and not
[3:18:38] relying on a I also recommend
[3:18:40] that we have used evacuation
[3:18:42] systems and the generator, a
[3:18:43] water and not using or city
[3:18:45] water to continue the services
[3:18:46] demand that it be in a closed
[3:18:47] loop system open mov system
[3:18:52] because. Other counties have
[3:18:53] already experienced massive
[3:18:54] difference in consumption and
[3:18:56] those type of systems and to
[3:18:57] design such that we're
[3:18:59] eliminating noise and we're
[3:19:00] eliminating toxic omeish
[3:19:02] emissions that come out of so
[3:19:03] thank you for the time and
[3:19:04] thank you for these
[3:19:05] considerations I think it's
[3:19:07] really important that we set
[3:19:10] these type rules stated but
[3:19:11] anybody is doing now because
[3:19:12] we need that a new deal see
[3:19:13] because we don't have specific
[3:19:14] that definition the type of
[3:19:14] industry. Thank you. Thank
[3:19:23] you.
[3:19:29] >> ipm cars for the record.
[3:19:29] >> so knowing mostly
[3:19:33] whatever's in the uldc there's
[3:19:34] 356 pages in the uldc 6
[3:19:35] chapters the only resident
[3:19:37] that has read this entire uldc
[3:19:39] as robinson that's ending. I
[3:19:44] was there for most of it. I do
[3:19:44] remember stating that when you
[3:19:45] do the rezone I do understand
[3:19:48] the need for commercial,
[3:19:49] however, when you re zone and
[3:19:51] do this uldc you need to do it
[3:19:52] responsibly so now here we
[3:19:56] are. One of my suggestions is
[3:20:00] is you need to bring fpl back
[3:20:01] and when you bring of peel
[3:20:03] back do not bring the
[3:20:03] community person that was
[3:20:06] going to calm, they don't know
[3:20:07] anything. My husband has over
[3:20:10] 40 years of experience and a
[3:20:12] large like triple utility
[3:20:13] company up in connecticut, so
[3:20:13] all these cheddar cheddar
[3:20:17] actually went into my brain.
[3:20:18] What you need to do is bring
[3:20:18] in the actual technical
[3:20:24] experts that do the job fpl
[3:20:25] you need the guy at the
[3:20:27] generating station to let
[3:20:29] citizens know exactly how they
[3:20:30] expect to generate all this
[3:20:32] electricity to bring the you
[3:20:35] need the technicians in the
[3:20:36] transmission station that
[3:20:37] tells us how they're going to
[3:20:37] figure out low because it's
[3:20:41] going to start once the
[3:20:43] customer brings there's best
[3:20:44] specs to that engineer that
[3:20:48] has the right up that that
[3:20:49] work plan they have 2 kids
[3:20:50] they've got calculations that
[3:20:52] they need to do to do that
[3:20:54] load they're going to figure
[3:20:56] out exactly how much equipment
[3:20:56] this customer needs and
[3:20:57] they're going to charge that
[3:21:00] customer for that equipment
[3:21:01] and then they'll go with that
[3:21:02] tell the generating station
[3:21:04] how much they need to generate
[3:21:05] so that is one of the things I
[3:21:08] suggest that when fpl comes
[3:21:10] back that's what they bring
[3:21:11] they bring those technical
[3:21:12] expert back because I know you
[3:21:13] guys all had questions about
[3:21:16] that and then also with fpl
[3:21:19] there's also up protocols that
[3:21:24] they have to fall one of the
[3:21:26] things that you need to ask is
[3:21:28] regarding that equipment so if
[3:21:30] you have it for example that
[3:21:31] transmission stations out
[3:21:32] there in new york sure they've
[3:21:34] got this couple numbers out of
[3:21:36] the hat they've got 20
[3:21:37] transformers that service, the
[3:21:39] city of north port from that
[3:21:42] station. So now if you put a
[3:21:43] data center and and you bring
[3:21:45] in 10 transformers only to
[3:21:47] support that that a center
[3:21:48] that is centered people paid
[3:21:49] for that was transformers
[3:21:51] because that's part of
[3:21:52] equipment that they need to
[3:21:55] pay so it per se we have a
[3:21:58] hurricane and all of those 30
[3:22:00] transformers are now destroyed
[3:22:02] who pays rules 10 because the
[3:22:04] citizen should only pay for
[3:22:07] the 20 that service us if if
[3:22:08] the hurricane damages, all of
[3:22:09] them and that dennis should be
[3:22:13] in the before me that they
[3:22:14] figure out when they restore
[3:22:15] that power and bring that back
[3:22:17] they should be responsible for
[3:22:17] their 10 it shouldn't be the
[3:22:22] citizens paying for. The
[3:22:23] entire 30 along with the data
[3:22:25] center because now they've
[3:22:26] kind their cost has been thank
[3:22:31] you.
[3:22:34] >> angela years the commission
[3:22:37] to adopt strong enforceable
[3:22:39] land-use before committing any
[3:22:43] project florida's 2026 cs cs
[3:22:46] sb 4, 8, now chapter 2026 65,
[3:22:46] specifically recognizes that
[3:22:49] largely facility such as data
[3:22:49] centers creating planning
[3:22:53] infrastructure part of
[3:22:54] concerns it also preserves
[3:22:54] local government authority
[3:22:55] over comprehensive planning
[3:22:57] and land
[3:22:58] development regulation north
[3:22:59] port should use protective
[3:23:03] residents. A should require
[3:23:05] substantial setbacks from
[3:23:05] neighborhood schools, parks,
[3:23:06] and environmentally sensitive
[3:23:10] areas. And forceful noise
[3:23:12] limit measured at neighboring
[3:23:13] properties disclosure of
[3:23:13] monitoring of water
[3:23:14] consumption and detailed
[3:23:16] information on electricity
[3:23:19] demand cooling systems back up
[3:23:20] generation and infrastructure
[3:23:21] impacts the city must also
[3:23:23] protect itself that the
[3:23:25] developers projections prove
[3:23:26] inaccurate what happened
[3:23:27] actual noise water used and
[3:23:29] traffic infrastructure needs
[3:23:30] or employment to for
[3:23:31] substantially from the
[3:23:33] promises made during a purple
[3:23:33] there must be enforceable
[3:23:34] mitigation requirements
[3:23:35] ongoing monitoring and
[3:23:39] consequences, not simply
[3:23:40] assurances. He might impacts
[3:23:42] must also be consider multiple
[3:23:43] data centers could play
[3:23:43] significant demands on north
[3:23:44] port's water supply electrical
[3:23:46] system roads and
[3:23:47] neighborhoods. I urge the
[3:23:49] commission to strengthen the
[3:23:50] uldc before approving these
[3:23:51] facilities and to ensure that
[3:23:53] no project can automatically
[3:23:54] expand its allowable impacts
[3:23:58] intensity water cassidy
[3:24:00] without proper without public
[3:24:01] notice and commissioner purple
[3:24:03] please provide infrastructure
[3:24:04] capacity water resources,
[3:24:05] environmental protection and
[3:24:06] long-term community planning
[3:24:06] ahead of expedited
[3:24:10] development. Said the good
[3:24:12] morning commissioners. My name
[3:24:12] is writes, I'm calling in
[3:24:14] today with the direct mandate
[3:24:16] for this time we demand the
[3:24:16] immediate drafting and
[3:24:18] enactment a permit wellfield
[3:24:18] protection ordinance as
[3:24:19] written directly into our
[3:24:22] local land development
[3:24:24] regulations when senate bill
[3:24:25] 4, 8, 4, we're done with the
[3:24:25] administrative delays 12 month
[3:24:27] study task force or legally
[3:24:27] risky moratoriums that trigger
[3:24:31] multimillion-dollar developer
[3:24:31] lawsuits under the judicial
[3:24:32] pending ordinance doctor and
[3:24:33] you have the legal author
[3:24:35] authority right now to
[3:24:36] officially announced you're
[3:24:37] tracking these water
[3:24:39] protections instantly freezing
[3:24:39] any new hyperscale data center
[3:24:40] applications from sneaking
[3:24:43] into our borders protect hands
[3:24:44] use sb for tech florida's
[3:24:48] water right now. David I I was
[3:24:49] shocked to see if anything is
[3:24:51] done on this agenda item that
[3:24:53] is meaningful. It doesn't
[3:24:54] assign that has been discussed
[3:24:55] as neither sustainable nor is
[3:24:55] it compatible with how a c 6
[3:24:57] was to find all the water need
[3:25:01] to come from the city. How is
[3:25:02] that possible with existing
[3:25:03] city plans to help system
[3:25:06] properties to water the uldc
[3:25:08] also needs to be rewritten as
[3:25:09] to how it affects the
[3:25:10] neighborhoods of north port
[3:25:12] truly disgusting work by
[3:25:12] development services who
[3:25:13] clearly have to guard quality
[3:25:17] of life and the residents. The
[3:25:19] part of the uldc rewrite and
[3:25:20] fletcher's move to eliminate
[3:25:22] the commission from its do
[3:25:22] legislative function is
[3:25:24] already being seen and if not
[3:25:25] fixed. Now will have terrible
[3:25:26] repercussions on the city as a
[3:25:30] place to live. David good
[3:25:32] morning commissioners, I'm a
[3:25:34] homeowner in north port, I'm
[3:25:35] reading today. Pretty direct
[3:25:36] mandate. We demand the
[3:25:37] immediate drafting and
[3:25:38] enactment a permanent
[3:25:39] wellfield protection
[3:25:40] ordinances right directly into
[3:25:40] our local land development
[3:25:41] regulations on the florida
[3:25:44] senate bill 4, 8, 4, trait of
[3:25:46] delays 12 month study task
[3:25:47] force were legally risky
[3:25:48] moratoriums that trigger
[3:25:50] multi-million dollar developer
[3:25:51] lawsuit part of that
[3:25:52] additional pending ordinance
[3:25:52] doctor and you have the legal
[3:25:53] authority right now to
[3:25:54] officially announce your draft
[3:25:56] these water protections
[3:25:57] instantly freezing any new
[3:25:57] hyperscale data center
[3:25:58] applications from sneaking
[3:26:00] into our borders, media
[3:26:01] attention is needed to protect
[3:26:02] our city and it's awful for
[3:26:07] him. The should have been in
[3:26:09] place before the city manager
[3:26:09] MISTER Talks and who knows
[3:26:12] what else what data center
[3:26:13] representatives owners. It
[3:26:15] center's will positive for the
[3:26:16] city as residents why the ndi
[3:26:18] we don't want center's our
[3:26:18] city it's not the answer to
[3:26:19] the financial shortfalls or
[3:26:20] whatever reason this was
[3:26:23] entered into by sting m it
[3:26:26] makes absolutely 0 sense
[3:26:26] considering water for even the
[3:26:27] population is in question we
[3:26:30] have no idea what tax breaks
[3:26:31] concessions except and what we
[3:26:33] are actually want to gain from
[3:26:35] it's all this to me is an
[3:26:36] outright lie, all the citizens
[3:26:38] of north port every animal and
[3:26:38] really makes no sense I would
[3:26:41] much prefer being sued end up
[3:26:43] like flint michigan please
[3:26:45] please do whatever is
[3:26:46] necessary to centers in our
[3:26:47] city, including the
[3:26:47] current one sure that and ii I
[3:26:54] thank you l. Donna measures,
[3:26:55] I'm writing to express my
[3:26:56] strong opposition to any
[3:26:58] framework under agenda item 26
[3:27:00] dash 1051 that allows
[3:27:02] exemptions or grandfather
[3:27:03] bought this for industrial
[3:27:04] development specifically
[3:27:05] pending 896,000 square-foot
[3:27:08] your facility to bypass strict
[3:27:09] zoning freezes last year the
[3:27:10] commission's acknowledgment
[3:27:12] that are you know city
[3:27:13] completely the necessary
[3:27:15] guardrails to manage these
[3:27:16] heavy operations any
[3:27:19] regulatory updates must be
[3:27:20] prepared with a comprehensive
[3:27:22] hall active reviews a lot
[3:27:23] existing applications to
[3:27:24] progress well we scramble to
[3:27:25] write the rules defeats the
[3:27:27] purpose of levels protections
[3:27:28] our community cannot absorb
[3:27:29] the severe long-term impacts
[3:27:29] of these facilities
[3:27:32] infrastructure and utilities
[3:27:34] strong these facilities place
[3:27:35] monumental demands on
[3:27:36] electrical grids and water
[3:27:37] resources starting utility
[3:27:38] stability and pass to the
[3:27:41] residential neighborhoods,
[3:27:42] noisy environment and that and
[3:27:45] that environmental degradation
[3:27:46] when they have industrial
[3:27:48] chillers and backup diesel
[3:27:49] generators place to
[3:27:51] residential and logical
[3:27:52] frontal sounds introduces
[3:27:54] chronic frequency noise
[3:27:55] pollution thermal strain,
[3:27:55] minimal local pay off these
[3:27:56] facilities operate on massive
[3:27:59] footprints that are highly
[3:28:01] automated producing negligible
[3:28:01] long-term employment
[3:28:03] opportunities for north port
[3:28:05] residents. Once construction
[3:28:07] and I urge the commission to
[3:28:08] enforce year for a complete
[3:28:10] moratorium on all development
[3:28:13] sure but any new uldc land-use
[3:28:14] regulations certainly
[3:28:16] protect north port
[3:28:17] infrastructure natural
[3:28:17] resources and neighborhoods
[3:28:21] from industrial to petition.
[3:28:22] Mayor commissioners I support
[3:28:23] ordinance number 2026 dash 25
[3:28:26] and the temporary moratorium
[3:28:28] on new expanding a dozen or
[3:28:28] days in north port, I'm not
[3:28:31] opposed to responsible
[3:28:32] development technology or
[3:28:33] economic growth, I'm opposed
[3:28:34] to making long-term decisions
[3:28:35] with potentially significant
[3:28:36] consequences before we fully
[3:28:38] understand consequences.
[3:28:39] Centers are fundamentally
[3:28:40] different from the development
[3:28:42] port has traditionally planned
[3:28:44] for they can play significant
[3:28:45] demands of electrical
[3:28:46] infrastructure water resources
[3:28:47] land and other infrastructure
[3:28:48] while potentially creating
[3:28:51] relatively few permanent jobs
[3:28:53] that does not automatically
[3:28:54] make it doesn't port it means
[3:28:55] we should know exactly what we
[3:28:58] are green to before we agree
[3:28:59] to the moratorium give the
[3:29:00] city time to answer critical
[3:29:02] questions. What are the water
[3:29:03] and electric man's who pays
[3:29:04] for report of a structure
[3:29:05] residents be protected from
[3:29:06] noise generators environmental
[3:29:09] impacts and incompatible land
[3:29:09] uses well as economic benefits
[3:29:13] port receive in return. And
[3:29:15] what happens at the facility
[3:29:17] expands or it use its use
[3:29:18] changes question should be
[3:29:19] answered through policy before
[3:29:19] an application sitting in
[3:29:20] front of the commission and
[3:29:23] the city is under pressure to
[3:29:23] act north port has one
[3:29:24] opportunity to establish the
[3:29:25] rules be for this type of
[3:29:27] development arrives at scale.
[3:29:27] Moratorium is not a it's not
[3:29:31] until we now I respectfully
[3:29:32] urge commission to approve
[3:29:33] ordinance 2026 dash 25 and use
[3:29:38] this time establish and
[3:29:39] forceful standards ensuring
[3:29:40] any future center provides a
[3:29:40] genuine net benefit to north
[3:29:45] port that's residence. Just I
[3:29:46] support commission putting
[3:29:47] standards in place to prevent
[3:29:47] things like data centers and
[3:29:50] other unwanted industries.
[3:29:51] Imagine if want to
[3:29:53] commissioner back to the 3 of
[3:29:55] you to put more time into the
[3:29:57] uldc you actually commissioner
[3:29:58] langdon a previous meeting you
[3:29:58] mentioned not having it first
[3:30:02] of all fortunately you did you
[3:30:04] she backs you to take more
[3:30:05] time with the uldc and he
[3:30:05] tooth and nail not I think you
[3:30:09] guys forget that we go back
[3:30:10] and meetings to see who was in
[3:30:13] the wrong side things.
[3:30:15] Christina that I support and
[3:30:16] acting stringent regulations
[3:30:17] within the uldc vergara data
[3:30:18] centers and expect said
[3:30:20] regulations to apply to
[3:30:23] applicant for the current are
[3:30:23] entered port is not the
[3:30:24] appropriate place for a
[3:30:25] 900,000 square-foot car
[3:30:25] stopped center.
[3:30:30] Florida a center in north port
[3:30:31] we don't need or want this
[3:30:34] technology. We don't have
[3:30:36] water to not a single resident
[3:30:37] wants to pay extra for we need
[3:30:39] more trees not last we don't
[3:30:41] want to see or hear the
[3:30:42] government says it will
[3:30:42] provide peace and safety and
[3:30:45] we need to stay ahead of china
[3:30:46] and technology we don't want
[3:30:46] the surveillance like china
[3:30:47] has we don't need a social
[3:30:50] credit score like china where
[3:30:52] the government controls where
[3:30:55] we go and what we and cannot
[3:30:55] government control needs to
[3:30:56] stop in america, our
[3:30:57] forefathers our freedom north
[3:30:58] port needs to stop by power
[3:30:58] arrive. We
[3:31:04] the people. Let I support
[3:31:06] putting strict regulations in
[3:31:07] place for data center cesar
[3:31:07] massive industrial projects
[3:31:08] and they should not be allowed
[3:31:10] residential areas without
[3:31:12] strong setbacks noise limits
[3:31:13] creating public port to keep
[3:31:14] are proving major projects
[3:31:16] that. First worrying about the
[3:31:20] impact on residents later
[3:31:21] protect the people who are
[3:31:24] already here before approving
[3:31:27] large-scale development. A
[3:31:28] neighbors in massive debt
[3:31:28] developer is eyeing our city
[3:31:29] and we must stop weak
[3:31:32] regulations from destroying
[3:31:33] our neighborhoods regarding 26
[3:31:34] dash 1051 we need to demand
[3:31:35] that the city commission
[3:31:39] that's the absolute strictest
[3:31:40] protections possible and are
[3:31:41] unified land development
[3:31:44] center's eyeing our region
[3:31:46] will turn north korea into an
[3:31:47] industrial dumping ground
[3:31:48] current covid isn't built for
[3:31:49] this we need to demand
[3:31:50] stricter protections before
[3:31:53] any development is approved
[3:31:54] massive setbacks keep that far
[3:31:56] away from homes neighborhoods
[3:31:58] and green spaces strict noise
[3:31:58] for a stop to 24 frequency
[3:32:02] humming for systems resource
[3:32:03] protections tap water and
[3:32:04] power use residents are step
[3:32:06] the soaring utility bills, no
[3:32:07] tax breaks make them pay their
[3:32:08] fair share support for local
[3:32:10] infrastructure, they exhaust,
[3:32:10] let's protect our piece
[3:32:11] property values and
[3:32:16] environment. Dimartino good
[3:32:18] morning commissioners. My name
[3:32:19] is sam and I'm commenting
[3:32:20] today with a direct mandate
[3:32:20] for the we demand the
[3:32:22] immediate drafting and
[3:32:23] enactment a permanent
[3:32:25] wellfield protection ordinance
[3:32:26] as written directly into our
[3:32:27] local development regulations
[3:32:29] under florida senate bill 4,
[3:32:32] 8, 4, we're done with them in
[3:32:33] a straight-up delays study
[3:32:34] task force or legally risky
[3:32:34] moratoriums that multi million
[3:32:37] dollar developer lawsuits. I
[3:32:38] really did initial pending
[3:32:39] ordinance doctor and you have
[3:32:42] the legal authority right now
[3:32:44] to officially announce your
[3:32:44] job and these actions
[3:32:45] instantly freezing any new
[3:32:45] hyperscale data applications
[3:32:48] from seeping into our borders.
[3:32:49] The political line in the sand
[3:32:50] is down today. The community
[3:32:51] is tracking exactly into the
[3:32:55] stands. Stacey motion. More
[3:32:57] for you nbc to specifically
[3:32:58] state that the construction of
[3:32:59] data centers will not be
[3:33:00] allowed anywhere northward and
[3:33:05] that is all have right. Thank
[3:33:09] >> request a give it a shot
[3:33:10] then.
[3:33:13] >> see what everybody thinks
[3:33:14] make a motion to direct city
[3:33:20] attorney. In the process
[3:33:22] drifting strong regulation
[3:33:22] that addresses the issues
[3:33:26] water our air quality and
[3:33:26] regarding data centers in the
[3:33:29] city of port and to provide
[3:33:30] monthly updates to the
[3:33:31] commission and public
[3:33:34] meetings.
[3:33:34] >> it read it one more time
[3:33:40] please.
[3:33:40] >> we can to direct city
[3:33:42] attorney to begin the process
[3:33:46] of drafting strong regulations
[3:33:47] that address the issues of
[3:33:50] water, our air quality and
[3:33:50] noise regarding data centers
[3:33:53] in the city of port and to
[3:33:55] provide monthly updates to the
[3:33:55] commission in a public
[3:33:57] meeting.
[3:34:01] >> second that motion.
[3:34:02] >> have a motion on the floor
[3:34:05] made by commissioner stokes
[3:34:06] seconded by vice mayor was
[3:34:18] there any discussion. Passes 5
[3:34:32] to 0. Motion. I'd like to make
[3:34:38] where this to make the motion.
[3:34:44] To have the city attorney.
[3:34:46] Look into as the citizens put
[3:34:47] like to have the city attorney
[3:34:48] looking into the well
[3:34:52] protections under sb 4.84. And
[3:34:53] see what the legalities are on
[3:34:57] moving forward.
[3:35:00] >> we have a motion on the
[3:35:00] floor to instruct city
[3:35:05] attorney to a value way.
[3:35:07] >> so well field protections
[3:35:11] could you under sb 44 under sb
[3:35:13] 4.84 and bring that back to
[3:35:14] the commission. If you need
[3:35:25] show. Second
[3:35:26] >> that motion has been
[3:35:28] seconded by commissioner stow
[3:35:29] still want to read that back
[3:35:32] to a city clerk to to direct
[3:35:34] the city attorney to evaluate
[3:35:36] wellfield protections under sb
[3:35:37] 44 and provide an update to
[3:35:41] mission public meeting. There
[3:35:43] is nothing more to do let's
[3:35:50] foe.
[3:35:55] That motion passes 5 to 0.
[3:35:55] >> I want to show another
[3:36:05] motion she was just back to me
[3:36:06] >> to city attorney to look
[3:36:10] the county. For to see how it
[3:36:13] can be up late. To our city
[3:36:18] give us
[3:36:19] feedback. Give feedback to the
[3:36:20] commission how to proceed.
[3:36:26] Second that. And when.
[3:36:27] >> we have a motion on the
[3:36:28] floor made by commissioner
[3:36:28] petro city clerk and you read
[3:36:30] that back please.
[3:36:35] >> he said the lucia county to
[3:36:36] direct the city attorney to
[3:36:37] evaluate the bliss a county
[3:36:38] ordinance and see how it can
[3:36:38] be acceptable to port and
[3:36:39] provide an update to
[3:36:42] commission a public meeting.
[3:36:43] >> thank you that was made
[3:36:45] commissioner petro seconded by
[3:36:46] commissioner stills there's
[3:36:47] nothing to the committee's
[3:36:59] vote. And passes 5 to 0. And
[3:37:00] anything else commissioners on
[3:37:07] this topic.
[3:37:07] >> we've got a we've been here
[3:37:08] for about an hour and a half
[3:37:09] we're going to take about 10
[3:37:31] >> and brandon what do you
[3:37:32] listen to this listen to my
[3:37:33] cpr plus what's on that
[3:37:37] staying alive.
[3:37:38] >> I'm zach and this is travis
[3:37:39] from north port fire rescue.
[3:37:42] >> and I'm brandon. And this
[3:37:47] is brad from the north port
[3:37:51] aquatic center.
[3:37:55] >> 26 regarding process for
[3:37:56] commission haitian of all
[3:37:59] around the globe nondisclosure
[3:38:00] agreements and this was
[3:38:03] requested by commissioner
[3:38:04] stavros I'm just going to
[3:38:05] fostering go straight to
[3:38:11] commissioner are. Well.
[3:38:12] >> so wait little bit of
[3:38:13] background I nondisclosure
[3:38:13] agreements are used everywhere
[3:38:18] every use. Private sector that
[3:38:20] in the public sector they are
[3:38:20] there for the purpose
[3:38:21] protecting proprietary
[3:38:26] information they make sense, I
[3:38:29] mean even commissioner a
[3:38:32] project and he is entitled to
[3:38:33] it and his proprietor
[3:38:34] interests in plans should
[3:38:39] protected that said I do not
[3:38:41] believe any elected any
[3:38:45] government anywhere should
[3:38:45] ever not know what's going and
[3:38:47] for that every commissioner
[3:38:51] should be read every nba that
[3:38:54] comes before the ones that are
[3:38:57] in forward in the future.
[3:38:58] Appreciate the fact that when
[3:39:04] we're ready that
[3:39:05] >> that due to my fellow
[3:39:06] commissioners open up this
[3:39:08] discussion and see where we go
[3:39:09] because we do need to fix this
[3:39:12] problem.
[3:39:12] >> commissioner petro your
[3:39:20] first. Vice mayor you are and
[3:39:27] then yes, thank you
[3:39:28] >> city attorney. Could you
[3:39:28] briefly comment on the
[3:39:30] legality of and da's.
[3:39:37] >> there's nothing inherently
[3:39:37] illegal. You know the schools
[3:39:44] are granted. There is statue
[3:39:47] that are in the a's to rise
[3:39:51] and section 2 88.4 7, 5,
[3:39:52] florida statues for that is an
[3:39:54] exemption. To the general
[3:39:59] public workers requirement is
[3:40:02] that records themselves.
[3:40:06] Considering sending 4 year.
[3:40:07] And for things are days that
[3:40:14] could be extended and so
[3:40:16] that's where you were has
[3:40:18] spent but I what standards are
[3:40:25] and then the going have say. I
[3:40:31] think probably is and what was
[3:40:39] for dollar meant to extended,
[3:40:39] you know just into for all
[3:40:43] stages for lack a better term
[3:40:46] there's illegal about that.
[3:40:49] Florida sunshine first it was
[3:40:53] just going sign it's just a
[3:40:57] matter promising call so you
[3:41:00] all about
[3:41:05] >> I another question.
[3:41:06] >> can the city legally be
[3:41:11] selective. And what kinds of
[3:41:15] projects are situations. Under
[3:41:18] which are in which it well. A
[3:41:22] lot when are not allow and
[3:41:26] then da so I guess more simply
[3:41:27] if someone requests an we
[3:41:30] required to get it and it's
[3:41:35] not under what circumstances.
[3:41:40] >> to go back to statute all
[3:41:41] without statue is general and
[3:41:48] for raises are coming 4.
[3:41:52] That's what the statute
[3:41:58] intended for the nba's go for
[3:42:02] it. So I don't think that we
[3:42:06] would productivity for
[3:42:08] limiting that class of
[3:42:12] businesses that you would
[3:42:12] extend into comply or statute
[3:42:13] in terms public records
[3:42:25] exemptions. And. And so could
[3:42:29] and so you bottle up being the
[3:42:30] is however you want ok so was
[3:42:34] specific in that question.
[3:42:35] >> a data center is allowed
[3:42:39] under our is a and allowed use
[3:42:40] under our industrial
[3:42:45] classification.
[3:42:46] >> if we wanted to ban and the
[3:42:50] a's on data centers.
[3:42:51] >> would we have to do it at
[3:42:55] the industrial classification
[3:42:58] or could we pick and choose
[3:42:58] the title of business or
[3:43:01] situation within that
[3:43:03] classification to either agree
[3:43:04] or disagree to enter into an
[3:43:07] nda with that company.
[3:43:11] >> is so I think you could.
[3:43:17] Decide classification heavy
[3:43:19] and all just want date is you
[3:43:23] get up and your and sole
[3:43:25] always 30 days correct but
[3:43:31] that still nod. The business
[3:43:35] behind the questing. Exemption
[3:43:36] from public records and
[3:43:43] statutes. Do themselves could
[3:43:44] still exempt from public form
[3:43:50] of the law. Other part of that
[3:43:53] has such important for you all
[3:43:57] years where you have not
[3:43:58] there's ethics rule that's
[3:44:04] chapter want prohibit is
[3:44:05] elected officials say chinese
[3:44:10] city for disclosing
[3:44:15] information that is not all
[3:44:15] that was readily available to
[3:44:20] of for personal gain. So in
[3:44:20] circumstances even if you're
[3:44:25] getting the result, story to
[3:44:25] say where the issue came to
[3:44:30] me. The your official duties
[3:44:40] that they was I told him that
[3:44:42] you know that because they
[3:44:44] haven't filed in that case
[3:44:44] because it's just not and I
[3:44:53] told you that. And use that.
[3:44:59] Private your. Status as
[3:45:01] elected official for private
[3:45:07] gain political you sprawl on
[3:45:12] chapter want well and so
[3:45:13] sometimes that says you know
[3:45:14] call whether or there's no
[3:45:18] anyway that's what say.
[3:45:21] >> that he out of water shows
[3:45:26] always the shots are
[3:45:26] everything to gain states as
[3:45:29] commission to playing ball.
[3:45:34] >> and related. From from what
[3:45:39] I understand. Staff signs nda
[3:45:45] with any company. Every member
[3:45:47] of staff and every single
[3:45:47] commissioner is bound by that
[3:45:53] nda is that correct.
[3:45:55] >> I think the nba, you have
[3:45:59] place say for reasons that's
[3:46:03] because out the 80's self care
[3:46:03] about which was commissioned
[3:46:09] in 2020 that essentially
[3:46:10] authorized the manager to
[3:46:11] execute rooms and want send it
[3:46:15] go forward. And so yes down
[3:46:19] tomorrow. Acquiescence into
[3:46:25] law agency. That doesn't mean
[3:46:28] you're aging your ceo turning
[3:46:29] members to go out and do this
[3:46:31] for you and that's how found
[3:46:34] by in kind of what the the
[3:46:43] question present it has okay.
[3:46:45] >> now when you don't have to
[3:46:45] be down JUNE 2 you can take
[3:46:53] that that. Well. Based what
[3:46:54] the product is that we have
[3:46:56] place now that that apply over
[3:46:59] that's what we have.
[3:46:59] >> so.
[3:47:09] >> yeah. This body decides.
[3:47:10] >> that we be reading into
[3:47:15] every nda that the city. Wants
[3:47:21] to has engaged I would
[3:47:22] certainly recommend that we
[3:47:29] signed the nda. Only because I
[3:47:31] have a concern well before I
[3:47:35] go there what's the penalty.
[3:47:38] >> so let's say one of us gets
[3:47:41] information with or without an
[3:47:44] nda. Let's say was an nda.
[3:47:45] >> and we share that
[3:47:49] information. A member of the
[3:47:52] community.
[3:47:54] >> what's the penalty for that
[3:47:55] to the city and the
[3:48:00] individual.
[3:48:10] >> it religion to it statue to
[3:48:11] I presented that second in
[3:48:17] second degree misdemeanor. If
[3:48:19] you do on a think so 30 days
[3:48:23] and up to 30 days in jail. Why
[3:48:24] would you know things of that
[3:48:25] nature so you could be looking
[3:48:30] at joe if you want which is
[3:48:37] time to act. Both the city
[3:48:37] could be looking basement
[3:48:43] which contracts too and get
[3:48:44] outside the school year duties
[3:48:48] as a commissioner violating as
[3:48:49] possible could be looking at
[3:48:50] individual civil liability and
[3:48:53] so it's a double penalty both
[3:48:54] to the city and to the
[3:48:56] individual who discloses the
[3:48:56] information.
[3:49:00] >> possibly, yes, possibly.
[3:49:01] >> okay, I'll yield for now
[3:49:04] thank you for the time.
[3:49:05] >> commissioner spoke city
[3:49:10] attorney I. I get under the
[3:49:14] present agreement and sign
[3:49:15] call it is the commission by
[3:49:16] virtue of agency I would still
[3:49:22] pose vice mayor said that.
[3:49:23] Commissioner should be if we
[3:49:24] decide to go this route that
[3:49:27] all commissioners p not just
[3:49:33] bound by it through through.
[3:49:34] Illegal definition of agency
[3:49:35] but rather actually signed
[3:49:36] nba's so that we are on the
[3:49:38] hope for them and here's the
[3:49:38] other thing I wanted to ask
[3:49:44] you. So. We commissioned let's
[3:49:45] say our panel they do use
[3:49:50] center. And as a good example.
[3:49:51] Had we reading on that and
[3:49:59] down by it. We didn't disclose
[3:50:00] we need to say anything to
[3:50:00] anybody
[3:50:01] about but what we do is
[3:50:06] instruct.
[3:50:06] >> you stay you and your staff
[3:50:08] we instructed city too.
[3:50:15] Relations. To take action.
[3:50:20] With regard to. To the project
[3:50:23] for which. We had a
[3:50:27] confidential information.
[3:50:29] Would that reach of the nba or
[3:50:35] will we be allowed to do that.
[3:50:37] >> mean I didn't say exactly
[3:50:38] as clean as should asking
[3:50:41] you're if you learn about
[3:50:42] something.
[3:50:44] >> and then want to stop
[3:50:48] project can
[3:50:49] >> was that was that was that
[3:50:54] it pretty much the question.
[3:50:55] >> it's a closer question
[3:51:00] again you would be are up is
[3:51:01] that issue that I spoke about
[3:51:02] are you doing that for
[3:51:08] personal are you doing that
[3:51:11] because there is so great good
[3:51:12] that's involved probably good.
[3:51:17] I think you problem. Don't
[3:51:18] think
[3:51:18] that there's anything in the
[3:51:25] he so could say. During that
[3:51:29] would be breach of contract
[3:51:30] >> look about the so so let
[3:51:34] let me restate this. So had we
[3:51:37] all be very have we know how
[3:51:45] this state sen. And directed
[3:51:46] staff to regulations and that
[3:51:54] regulation. Instead to hearing
[3:51:59] you saying we're probably not.
[3:52:00] Homes or not liable under the
[3:52:09] nda. Well with that we bus
[3:52:14] line will asked. Commissioners
[3:52:15] and more of the city to the
[3:52:19] apple again
[3:52:20] cool we question of the school
[3:52:24] and then but the I mean you
[3:52:29] see what I'm asking.
[3:52:29] >> it's a closer question I
[3:52:34] think you're I think you're I
[3:52:35] think the city will probably
[3:52:39] not liable. And it's
[3:52:39] individual commissioner
[3:52:46] probably not labeled either.
[3:52:50] >> got question.
[3:52:54] >> let's say. That we took the
[3:52:54] stand today and we made a
[3:52:58] motion. And we put it back to
[3:53:02] where it only follow state
[3:53:03] statute. The public records
[3:53:03] part you know we go back to
[3:53:07] the original on board. And
[3:53:09] then the it comes in because
[3:53:09] nobody's touched on this part
[3:53:10] of it because not only did the
[3:53:15] commission. Not know about it
[3:53:17] neither did the citizens so
[3:53:17] when nba would happen to come
[3:53:22] in. Holding off on all the
[3:53:26] public records. But would we
[3:53:29] be allowed to discuss up here
[3:53:31] on the dias be agenda item
[3:53:33] saying hey guess what this
[3:53:34] individual has put application
[3:53:37] for x y and z. We want to have
[3:53:38] a discussion on it, but yeah,
[3:53:41] I know public records are
[3:53:42] available. But can discussion
[3:53:43] take place to get to citizens
[3:53:44] on board as early as possible
[3:53:51] as well. A couple months ago
[3:53:54] and there's no clear what the
[3:53:56] attorney general the paintings
[3:54:01] I believe.
[3:54:04] >> 2005 2007 dress that issue
[3:54:10] saying that the public records
[3:54:14] exemption does not shoe show a
[3:54:17] law so what that would be to
[3:54:19] take that concluded state was
[3:54:24] inclusion and then probably
[3:54:29] hearing all of the staff of ad
[3:54:33] about the the problem that you
[3:54:37] MAY get injunction for. But
[3:54:42] again all that because real
[3:54:43] has addressed attorney general
[3:54:47] and those
[3:54:48] >> kind the world as you on
[3:54:49] and just to take it just a
[3:54:50] little bit further and I'm not
[3:54:53] saying that once the
[3:54:54] commission got the information
[3:54:55] they're going to go out and
[3:54:57] blab it all over the place
[3:54:58] let's just say commissioner
[3:54:59] had talk with the citizen
[3:55:01] about hey guess what you know
[3:55:05] casual conversation this is
[3:55:05] what's common. Now a citizenry
[3:55:09] has found out about that out
[3:55:11] there and now they're
[3:55:12] demanding answers and you know
[3:55:13] saying hey we want to talk
[3:55:13] about this then we could put
[3:55:17] it on the agenda to enlighten
[3:55:18] with whatever information we
[3:55:19] have regardless you know
[3:55:21] exempting the public record so
[3:55:24] I'm just trying to get this to
[3:55:25] where we have open playing
[3:55:25] field to work gets everybody
[3:55:34] involved. Possibly in the
[3:55:37] future I'm that clear ones you
[3:55:38] go west turn general. That's
[3:55:41] it's okay point
[3:55:41] >> well when have dinner with
[3:55:45] him haha.
[3:55:47] >> commissioner euro. Thank
[3:55:50] you
[3:55:54] >> I did not prepare for this
[3:55:56] agenda I just want to see
[3:55:57] cussing goals because they
[3:55:59] don't know what nothing on the
[3:56:02] part of the agenda item but it
[3:56:03] kinda for waited a couple
[3:56:04] questions as we. Were
[3:56:12] conversing here. Generally
[3:56:12] speaking that public not a
[3:56:18] bomb nda. Having you know and
[3:56:19] the is a common practice
[3:56:23] course business conducting
[3:56:24] business but
[3:56:28] the government and that and
[3:56:29] specifically protect
[3:56:35] proprietary. Secrets. And it's
[3:56:36] a good point you know with the
[3:56:41] specific. Point that we're
[3:56:42] discussing and it is senate
[3:56:44] right. I think there was so
[3:56:51] much secrecy that. You know we
[3:56:52] but this and you we all but
[3:56:57] this nda. Which is kind of
[3:56:57] ironic project of this
[3:57:01] magnitude. You know the fact
[3:57:01] that all of us.
[3:57:07] Its own rules I can say almost
[3:57:12] certain that it was done
[3:57:13] purpose and by design to this
[3:57:16] commission from this project.
[3:57:20] And all we had to be. We're
[3:57:25] going just over 5. But not.
[3:57:33] And we're here. But I want
[3:57:34] this question. So let's say do
[3:57:38] this that we have to sign. And
[3:57:39] personally as public officials
[3:57:42] or elected officials. By
[3:57:46] contrast to of the state of
[3:57:50] U.S. Constitution. And I think
[3:57:51] probably by the florida
[3:57:52] constitution which have not
[3:57:54] looked into it. I can say all.
[3:57:57] And you know, I'm not going
[3:58:04] sign it. If I had it. Also my
[3:58:06] own. You know, I'm decisions
[3:58:13] so there is a. There is a way
[3:58:14] saying no and yes, my in the
[3:58:16] correct me if I'm wrong. City
[3:58:18] attorney my question now. So
[3:58:22] if we come to that conclusion
[3:58:23] that let let's fold and we've
[3:58:26] opened by majority. Okay we're
[3:58:26] going to have to sign it
[3:58:29] personally. Do we have this
[3:58:30] ability not to sign it
[3:58:35] constitutionally.
[3:58:36] >> I don't think that's
[3:58:36] constitutional question I
[3:58:38] think it's a question for the
[3:58:41] border. 2 to one side not. I
[3:58:47] don't constitutional. And
[3:58:48] that's to deter news for
[3:58:49] correct commissioner us
[3:58:51] constitution not have to sign.
[3:58:52] >> and the way to that's you
[3:58:59] know. Right to. Freedom of
[3:59:00] speech if you will to school
[3:59:04] secret so. Whatever project
[3:59:09] that is it.
[3:59:09] >> so asking would you put
[3:59:14] show speech. What I understand
[3:59:17] question trying to get its.
[3:59:21] Not easy answer.
[3:59:28] >> it's just ask a follow-up
[3:59:31] question to your back to the
[3:59:32] conversation, yes, out keep
[3:59:32] quiet after I get an answer to
[3:59:35] this. But a follow-up.
[3:59:36] >> commissioner petros
[3:59:38] question.
[3:59:42] >> whether or not.
[3:59:44] >> we individually sign and
[3:59:48] then da. My understanding is
[3:59:54] we're to it.
[3:59:54] >> by by virtue of the
[4:00:09] intention. Having is correct.
[4:00:10] >> the last part of sounds are
[4:00:11] somewhat say a project is
[4:00:14] coming and we we change our
[4:00:14] policies. The commissioners
[4:00:19] get ready and whenever every
[4:00:20] time it and the a's executed
[4:00:24] we're notified. And maybe our
[4:00:27] policy is. We should if we're
[4:00:31] going to be ready we should
[4:00:38] sign. But my understanding is
[4:00:40] whether or not we personally
[4:00:40] signed that nda were still
[4:00:44] bound by it.
[4:00:45] >> guess another way of saying
[4:00:46] what you're saying. Vice mayor
[4:00:51] is
[4:00:52] >> if you're not able to know.
[4:01:00] >> once. Not not to be
[4:01:00] disclosed.
[4:01:03] >> so if you are that candice
[4:01:04] co uk is low, so that you
[4:01:10] don't know. So you what to not
[4:01:17] be ready then you can goals
[4:01:18] what you don't know and think
[4:01:19] that's where whole issue about
[4:01:26] being found friend. Who you.
[4:01:27] It's so cold you something you
[4:01:30] don't answer is all for and I
[4:01:37] don't does not well were not
[4:01:42] >> if you decided to use you
[4:01:45] know that the or whatever and
[4:01:52] he said yes there is a space
[4:01:57] and you can't just the entire
[4:01:59] organization has been about it
[4:02:05] is that it of your all about
[4:02:05] including commission. Just you
[4:02:07] can't say something and you
[4:02:09] don't so where we saw a where
[4:02:16] are you. It hold we'll
[4:02:19] resolution whether all.
[4:02:24] >> that specific issue. Go
[4:02:25] ahead and we still got to go
[4:02:28] back know we're heading c.
[4:02:29] >> you mentioned something
[4:02:30] about the legal doctrine of
[4:02:36] agency. So to city signs that
[4:02:37] nda and we don't execute that
[4:02:42] nda. She read it we we MAY be
[4:02:43] best known soon jumping from
[4:02:48] it. Every project. That's
[4:02:51] forth before this say is run
[4:02:56] by commission. The
[4:02:58] administrative approval
[4:03:00] process changes so that every
[4:03:04] single project comes pest is
[4:03:05] poor. We did that become aware
[4:03:09] of projects that MAY well be.
[4:03:09] Covered by so the question
[4:03:14] then if we talk about if we
[4:03:16] share information that was
[4:03:20] that that that were made aware
[4:03:21] of then you know what sort of
[4:03:22] legal jeopardy or is there a
[4:03:25] legal jeopardy. I'm sort of
[4:03:26] seeing where commissioner
[4:03:32] petrus perspective is let's
[4:03:33] just do away with nba's and
[4:03:37] let's just do and reversed the
[4:03:38] administrative approval
[4:03:39] process in the area that
[4:03:42] allows. In minutes straight of
[4:03:50] approval to be without a
[4:03:51] public without transparency
[4:03:53] inclusiveness make every
[4:03:53] project come before the city
[4:03:54] in a public setting so the
[4:03:55] public and the commission
[4:03:57] knows about it. That I don't
[4:04:00] see how anybody has any
[4:04:02] problems anywhere. And the
[4:04:03] only thing that binds any
[4:04:06] information is under the state
[4:04:07] law that that controls public
[4:04:11] records disclosure. That would
[4:04:13] be cleaner and get all off the
[4:04:20] hook and. Spotlight on all
[4:04:21] this stuff. Back to
[4:04:23] commissioner petro thank you
[4:04:24] mayor. You've got ask what I
[4:04:27] was going say.
[4:04:29] >> so let's say for example
[4:04:30] and that's just an example
[4:04:35] data center and the 8. It was
[4:04:35] not appropriate story davis
[4:04:39] that today is right. So when
[4:04:43] the public records request was
[4:04:44] I think the didn't get it
[4:04:45] until like 2 days after the
[4:04:50] exo meaning. The discussion of
[4:04:51] data center which was JULY
[4:04:56] 21st, I believe so. You know
[4:05:01] some the base for example.
[4:05:02] Could you know that location
[4:05:04] maybe it. It's not
[4:05:09] proprietary. But some are
[4:05:11] trying cut rates for example.
[4:05:16] You know. Could be and if we
[4:05:18] had known that is about this
[4:05:23] project we could still do. You
[4:05:23] know talk about it but not
[4:05:26] saying what exactly or. But
[4:05:35] they're more concisely. So
[4:05:36] it's transparent. It should be
[4:05:39] secrets from pollock unless
[4:05:44] it's a proprietary so
[4:05:45] education came in JULY 20 I
[4:05:49] believe. And the the public
[4:05:52] request was still pending.
[4:05:57] Proving the review. She was
[4:06:03] correct me from front row.
[4:06:03] Repressed was asking if there
[4:06:04] is occasional submitted or
[4:06:09] not. That thing proprietor so
[4:06:13] that my question. We shouldn't
[4:06:17] be hiding you know, and you
[4:06:18] read the nba if this data set
[4:06:22] some of them was basic stop
[4:06:25] that was most of it was a
[4:06:26] basic stop. So my question is
[4:06:28] to to concur with commissioner
[4:06:31] storms kind of a because he
[4:06:34] expended to what extent.
[4:06:41] >> and then new should be.
[4:06:41] >> about the entire project
[4:06:42] above everything proprietary
[4:06:52] stall. So that's my question.
[4:06:53] And I guess could discuss the
[4:06:54] actual regulations in a public
[4:06:55] setting for data center. We
[4:07:02] went out disclosing any fender
[4:07:02] develop size of project I'm
[4:07:05] you know that will be
[4:07:05] discussed publicly that we
[4:07:09] would not violated any of nda.
[4:07:10] But specific to this project
[4:07:15] that was cat purpose. In
[4:07:16] citrus, even from the
[4:07:17] commission and that's not
[4:07:18] right and I guess what the
[4:07:20] next agenda item. If it's
[4:07:25] first. The commission would be
[4:07:26] well aware of all the projects
[4:07:27] like this or projects they
[4:07:32] have the 80's. Don't know I
[4:07:33] mean my point very clear but
[4:07:36] so that's where I stand. But
[4:07:38] it's up to the board and I'm
[4:07:41] willing to engaging for that
[4:07:42] discussion. But what conclude
[4:07:48] with this. If there's should
[4:07:48] be specific to extent there's
[4:07:55] and data centers and not vice
[4:07:56] to any community, you know
[4:07:58] it's you know they they come
[4:08:01] almost states virtually where
[4:08:03] the land is a bubble,
[4:08:07] especially cheap went. But 2
[4:08:10] home from the public
[4:08:10] purposefully so they can get
[4:08:13] the application in. I don't
[4:08:14] think it's right I don't think
[4:08:16] it's. Even medical to say the
[4:08:20] least. I think and I made my
[4:08:25] post facebook rant got a lot
[4:08:25] of responses. But I think
[4:08:28] we've to fail to our citizens.
[4:08:31] Overall as a city this.
[4:08:36] Obviously there were some.
[4:08:36] Proprietary secrets that
[4:08:42] should been kept. Over in the
[4:08:42] to that to this extent what we
[4:08:50] did it. I think it's not. As a
[4:08:51] cold to say the least and I
[4:08:52] think we ourselves a
[4:08:53] disservice and the road to
[4:08:55] citizens trust. And the
[4:08:59] public. Officials which part
[4:09:05] of and so. As a government
[4:09:09] overall and in general, and
[4:09:10] I'm not speaking against nba's
[4:09:14] I'm speaking about the actual.
[4:09:14] You know implementation of
[4:09:22] nba's and how treat it. I read
[4:09:26] document that was adopted in
[4:09:27] FEBRUARY of 2021 which not
[4:09:31] part of the board. We can take
[4:09:35] a look at and see to what
[4:09:40] extent we should be bob ended.
[4:09:41] But if you did anything about
[4:09:42] the project helping we be
[4:09:46] bound by nba. Those are my.
[4:09:50] $0.2 I this is the agenda
[4:09:51] that. Commissioner still
[4:09:56] brought it. So I want to hear
[4:09:58] the no further discussion and
[4:09:59] possible motion. What he
[4:10:02] intends to do.
[4:10:04] >> thank you mayor and
[4:10:05] commissioner duval thank you
[4:10:10] >> schools. The city these
[4:10:18] lands. And it really colony.
[4:10:19] >> also goal is services and
[4:10:22] so is. We want to drill for
[4:10:25] oil on city property.
[4:10:29] >> and we wanted to be a. No
[4:10:33] we've been going through I
[4:10:36] would suggest we say no we not
[4:10:42] an nda. As commissioner stolz
[4:10:47] was already alluded to. Got
[4:10:56] the city. Really call because
[4:10:58] here it says I want drill in
[4:10:59] the game. Although the bell
[4:11:05] services tell all the the 5
[4:11:10] commissioners make a decision.
[4:11:12] Whether to keep all if we can
[4:11:17] do to media must also. So
[4:11:22] inclined to say. If you want
[4:11:29] business with the city will
[4:11:35] baseball no reason experience.
[4:11:42] Being the spending I so can
[4:11:46] agree with that.
[4:11:50] >> that's thank you. Vice
[4:11:54] >> yeah just a couple of I
[4:12:00] understand that if. A company
[4:12:02] a business and that he is
[4:12:04] sharing proprietary secrets
[4:12:09] with city staff. I'm hearing
[4:12:10] that there wouldn't be an
[4:12:11] objection necessarily to that
[4:12:19] and ga. But I also know coming
[4:12:21] from a world where and da's
[4:12:22] are in every day a car and
[4:12:23] time out of high tech.
[4:12:28] >> and.
[4:12:33] >> and the a's are just about
[4:12:33] proprietary information when
[4:12:34] and software companies would
[4:12:37] come to us to share their
[4:12:44] business plans. A lot of times
[4:12:46] that in and of itself so not
[4:12:49] technology secrets but their
[4:12:50] business plans because of the
[4:12:53] competitive exposure. Of that.
[4:12:55] >> so.
[4:13:01] >> to connect to the job.
[4:13:02] We're spending as a city a lot
[4:13:05] of effort trying to attract.
[4:13:11] Companies from coming here. We
[4:13:12] want jobs. We we want to
[4:13:15] expand our commercial
[4:13:16] footprint we want to help
[4:13:18] alleviate some of the tax
[4:13:20] burden from homes all of those
[4:13:23] are wonderful things. And if
[4:13:28] we throw and the a's. What
[4:13:29] does that do to the likelihood
[4:13:34] of companies that we all agree
[4:13:35] we want to have come here
[4:13:38] because of the economic
[4:13:38] benefits. But they refused
[4:13:43] because we protect their
[4:13:46] business plans. Let's be real
[4:13:48] careful. What we're trying to
[4:13:49] do here as we could shoot
[4:13:57] themselves both feet. By doing
[4:13:59] this.
[4:13:59] >> and I mean one things that
[4:14:02] has come to my mind and this.
[4:14:04] >> whole thrashing of the
[4:14:09] whole data center thing.
[4:14:12] Personally I believe there's
[4:14:13] some and talking about heavy
[4:14:16] industrial sector. Because I
[4:14:22] think it's those. Time so
[4:14:23] businesses that are most
[4:14:28] likely to have a negative
[4:14:28] impact on the environment all
[4:14:33] all of those things. Maybe
[4:14:34] those of the kinds of
[4:14:40] projects. We don't want to
[4:14:44] shield from the public. So I'm
[4:14:48] just throwing that out as one
[4:14:49] opportunity I I just don't
[4:14:52] think I could support throwing
[4:14:55] out and the a's in a blanket
[4:14:59] way because it very well could
[4:15:00] prevent it. The kinds of
[4:15:01] companies we would all agree
[4:15:04] we want to have come here
[4:15:06] because we won't protect their
[4:15:07] business plans. So let's
[4:15:10] really think carefully about
[4:15:14] how we might want to manage
[4:15:19] and he is and I have couple of
[4:15:21] basic blocking and tackling
[4:15:22] questions around and the a's
[4:15:23] and I say that MISTER Mayor
[4:15:24] men has left which is
[4:15:29] unfortunate. I'm just curious.
[4:15:33] On average how many and the
[4:15:33] a's does the city signed any
[4:15:41] year. And similar to the data
[4:15:43] center I I think we executed
[4:15:44] that nda way in advance of
[4:15:47] actually filing an
[4:15:49] application. So my second
[4:15:51] question is how often does the
[4:15:54] nda and the application kind
[4:15:55] of happened together at or
[4:15:59] within a short period of time.
[4:15:59] And how often does it really
[4:16:05] separated. By length of time
[4:16:06] we saw in the data center
[4:16:10] example, and I see. Missed
[4:16:11] larry is slowly and
[4:16:12] reluctantly coming to the
[4:16:25] podium.
[4:16:25] >> good afternoon lori bonds
[4:16:29] deputy director of development
[4:16:30] services in the last 4 and a
[4:16:31] half years the city has
[4:16:35] entered into 3 different
[4:16:36] nondisclosure agreements, I'm
[4:16:38] one of those projects did not
[4:16:42] progress to the point of a
[4:16:45] formal application. One and
[4:16:48] one is under the nda and we
[4:16:48] don't have information as to
[4:16:51] when they are applying.
[4:16:53] >> generally projects MAY said
[4:16:59] matt. A formal application
[4:17:00] before the expiration of their
[4:17:03] and in my experience by the
[4:17:03] time they get to the formal
[4:17:08] approval. Stage those and the
[4:17:11] a's have generally expired
[4:17:12] imagine trying to conduct
[4:17:15] quasi judicial hearing. For a
[4:17:18] project that is under a
[4:17:19] nondisclosure agreement. So
[4:17:20] usually by the time they are
[4:17:27] ready to. Get to their final
[4:17:27] approval stages. They have
[4:17:30] tied up there and users and.
[4:17:35] Finalize their plans so that
[4:17:38] the need for the nda is no
[4:17:39] longer a pressing right
[4:17:41] because and progress things
[4:17:44] are of locked and the
[4:17:45] opportunity for a competitor
[4:17:49] to come in.
[4:17:50] >> and derail that project is
[4:17:50] over correct okay, thank you
[4:17:56] for that. I'm going to yield
[4:17:57] at this point but I want to
[4:17:59] come back.
[4:18:05] >> stokes.
[4:18:06] >> you know I started by
[4:18:08] saying that you know nba's or
[4:18:09] something that we see in the
[4:18:10] private sector we see in the
[4:18:11] public sector MAY seem to be
[4:18:16] out there. But I do
[4:18:16] fundamental concern and that's
[4:18:17] that I think there's a
[4:18:19] fundamental difference between
[4:18:24] government and private sector.
[4:18:26] Ok, and the difference I see
[4:18:27] is we are elected by were
[4:18:28] elected to represent the
[4:18:31] citizens of this city and for
[4:18:32] any elected body not to know
[4:18:33] what's going on is a big
[4:18:38] problem for me and for anybody
[4:18:39] not to know what's going now I
[4:18:42] appreciate he that are
[4:18:44] reluctant to come do business
[4:18:45] with the city unless they can
[4:18:49] prepare protect their
[4:18:49] proprietary rights but many
[4:18:50] cases it might be they also
[4:18:53] want to protect their idea. So
[4:18:54] that someone else doesn't jump
[4:18:59] in to compete with them. But
[4:19:00] that said I think healthy
[4:19:01] competition is good especially
[4:19:02] when talking about the
[4:19:03] citizens tax dollars that
[4:19:04] we're prepared to maybe spend
[4:19:08] ward contributed to a product.
[4:19:10] So why intend to make a motion
[4:19:11] to do away with and the a's
[4:19:15] and the say and see where sits
[4:19:16] on that because I just don't
[4:19:21] see need for and I think that
[4:19:23] day they contrary to the
[4:19:24] concept of transparency and
[4:19:24] inclusiveness I think we have
[4:19:27] a problem with city and I
[4:19:28] think it's time to start
[4:19:32] fixing some of stuff and this
[4:19:34] is something that if we lose
[4:19:37] the deal here there will also
[4:19:39] be in to be if there's a
[4:19:40] business doesn't want come
[4:19:41] here because they're so zones
[4:19:44] going to compete with to and
[4:19:46] yet they have a primary
[4:19:48] information that they submit
[4:19:51] that's protected in my opinion
[4:19:55] under the state law for public
[4:19:58] records. So they're kind
[4:19:59] project in there, but cost of
[4:20:00] the idea for us not to be able
[4:20:03] to share the and for everyone
[4:20:05] know what just runs contrary
[4:20:07] to the concept of good
[4:20:08] governance and transparent
[4:20:11] governance I mean the sunshine
[4:20:12] laws were passed so that we do
[4:20:16] business behind closed doors.
[4:20:18] And yet because and the a's
[4:20:23] and administrative approvals.
[4:20:24] There's been around here where
[4:20:25] now this stuff can get it done
[4:20:32] behind not only the you know
[4:20:34] that commission's back I just
[4:20:35] think that's a problem and I
[4:20:38] don't use and budget purposely
[4:20:40] doing anything nefarious I
[4:20:42] just think that this is the
[4:20:45] manipulation of legislation
[4:20:46] that's taking place over time
[4:20:46] and we have the ability to fix
[4:20:53] so I say we fix it to where
[4:20:53] nba's and fix the approval
[4:20:56] process thank you commissioner
[4:20:57] petro.
[4:21:04] >> almost and want to could 7
[4:21:08] that I'm not going repeat
[4:21:09] that. But one state kind going
[4:21:15] specifics. Trade secrets think
[4:21:18] that I remember one of the
[4:21:20] economic could open to updates
[4:21:27] we had director said that. You
[4:21:27] know there's still coming to
[4:21:32] this section of our city and
[4:21:32] she said the box store and we
[4:21:33] were like what is it what is
[4:21:35] the thing she said well I can
[4:21:39] say it's a trace it could
[4:21:40] basically time you it's like
[4:21:41] submitting the application
[4:21:45] with the fast food and city or
[4:21:50] whatever. Chain or restaurant.
[4:21:51] Box store. Did I have to
[4:21:58] provide specifics. To that. So
[4:21:59] basically same thing
[4:22:01] commissioner stokes that lets
[4:22:05] get away from them a lot of
[4:22:06] people you know I and they
[4:22:08] want to be protecting thinking
[4:22:10] the plant under different a
[4:22:11] little cnn, nobody always
[4:22:17] cool. To hide it from the
[4:22:20] commission that would be
[4:22:20] prevented from making the
[4:22:24] proper choices or well
[4:22:25] informed decision that I don't
[4:22:27] think it's correct. So. And
[4:22:28] again if you do the business
[4:22:34] with the government. This
[4:22:38] courage to be transparent.
[4:22:40] Because government and 2
[4:22:41] different things and we as
[4:22:45] public officials. Transparency
[4:22:48] that's comes thank you man.
[4:22:52] >> I mayor.
[4:22:56] >> yeah just a couple law
[4:22:59] comments. We all want
[4:23:00] competition our economy is
[4:23:01] built on it we want to have
[4:23:09] choice with shop where to
[4:23:11] we're not. But when a company
[4:23:13] is investing significant
[4:23:14] resources and engineering
[4:23:16] planning building plans.
[4:23:24] >> order to build here. I that
[4:23:26] is a totally different
[4:23:26] situation.
[4:23:31] >> and 2.
[4:23:31] >> protect their business
[4:23:36] plans under an nda it part of
[4:23:37] the reason in addition to
[4:23:41] proprietary information. And
[4:23:46] da's exist. It's to encourage
[4:23:50] that kind development and to
[4:23:53] prevent unfair competition.
[4:23:57] That causes. A company to say
[4:23:58] ok. I'm don
[4:24:05] haha you block my plans all
[4:24:08] creation and now a direct
[4:24:09] competitor of my this
[4:24:10] competing for that same
[4:24:12] property are whatever the
[4:24:12] objection I I kind of agree
[4:24:17] to it.
[4:24:18] >> now a conversation about
[4:24:22] how we might want to modify
[4:24:25] our nda if we decide as a body
[4:24:28] we want to be read into and
[4:24:29] the a's and be to them I'm
[4:24:35] open to that conversation.
[4:24:36] >> I'm sorry I I can support
[4:24:41] throwing out and the a's.
[4:24:42] >> as whole block, it's not in
[4:24:47] the best interest of city. It
[4:24:48] is not in the best interest of
[4:24:49] our economic development is
[4:24:55] not in the best interest. Here
[4:24:57] and helping to soften the tax
[4:24:58] burden on homeowners I cannot
[4:25:02] it. I yield.
[4:25:05] >> commissioner ball know
[4:25:14] thank you the boulder. Coast
[4:25:21] to the city. And we say to if
[4:25:23] you had a prior period
[4:25:23] information.
[4:25:25] >> you do not want make
[4:25:30] schools that do not all. If
[4:25:36] you do not or questions. In
[4:25:42] your application process.
[4:25:43] Gives all safeguards. We need
[4:25:45] for our community that we will
[4:26:00] decline replication.
[4:26:01] >> and brief and make it very
[4:26:02] brief because removing on
[4:26:10] emotions. Thank you mayor.
[4:26:16] >> few minutes ago hearing
[4:26:17] that for as long anybody can
[4:26:20] remember there's been.
[4:26:23] >> 3 and the a's and I would
[4:26:24] say if we have the least known
[4:26:26] about one of them. Our
[4:26:30] situation today might be
[4:26:31] slightly different. So I know
[4:26:32] probably couldn't said it
[4:26:34] better MISTER Duvall just said
[4:26:38] and so you know I stand firmly
[4:26:39] behind my position anyway
[4:26:46] that's it essentially brought
[4:26:46] city manager weaker and I
[4:26:47] think larry was up here and
[4:26:49] she currently we have to. Nda
[4:26:55] is in place currently. And
[4:26:56] that would it always up 30th
[4:27:00] and we will not be exercising
[4:27:01] the right to extend that based
[4:27:02] on today's conversation and
[4:27:02] will give you that information
[4:27:06] as well.
[4:27:08] >> okay because the reason I
[4:27:10] ask is because commissioner
[4:27:13] starts when we started this
[4:27:14] said that. Commissioner petros
[4:27:17] brother was involved in one.
[4:27:18] The reason I'm asking about
[4:27:21] that was that. What I was
[4:27:22] reading about in your
[4:27:26] valuation. That's going to
[4:27:33] come out yes the 22nd because
[4:27:34] there are some very serious
[4:27:35] stuff and that and I think
[4:27:36] we're going to have a
[4:27:39] discussion on that on the
[4:27:40] 22nd.
[4:27:45] >> yes, there project you know
[4:27:50] based on what you hear today.
[4:27:52] >> more going to be inability
[4:27:52] to respect what they are what
[4:27:55] they do so those things I
[4:27:55] don't think today is the time
[4:27:58] to discuss that part of it so.
[4:28:05] >> open it up for a motions.
[4:28:06] >> from a family sent a
[4:28:10] followed by sam samuel place
[4:28:17] of rest him ours.
[4:28:21] >> take discussion across the
[4:28:22] >> city attorney thank you
[4:28:24] because you have a lot of this
[4:28:25] stuff. Lot of questions asked
[4:28:29] you I was going stay as well
[4:28:29] so get rid of half of my
[4:28:31] comment which is great. You
[4:28:32] know you guys have that
[4:28:36] discretion. Whether you want
[4:28:36] to do an nda or you don't want
[4:28:41] to do an nda.
[4:28:42] >> you have the discretion to
[4:28:43] just make an ordinance that is
[4:28:44] within the commission's
[4:28:44] purview.
[4:28:46] >> to make that decision you
[4:28:48] can take it away
[4:28:49] administratively and put it in
[4:28:53] your pool of curfew. And the
[4:28:55] a's are all over the place so
[4:28:56] yeah, maybe sometimes an nda
[4:28:58] is ok depending upon what type
[4:28:58] of nda and what they're asking
[4:29:01] for. And that again is in with
[4:29:05] discretion. You know the only
[4:29:06] way to handle it that I'm
[4:29:11] saying. Take it away
[4:29:12] administratively and put it in
[4:29:14] the purview of the commission
[4:29:14] and it has to come before you
[4:29:17] whether you want to do. You
[4:29:18] know do want to with this
[4:29:22] particular business you don't.
[4:29:23] So one of choices taken away
[4:29:23] permanently or use your
[4:29:26] discretion. That's your
[4:29:41] purview. Thank you
[4:29:43] >> under transparency laws
[4:29:44] like chapter 1, 1, 9 public
[4:29:45] records act and sunshine the
[4:29:49] rule is absolute city manager
[4:29:52] or staff member can signed a
[4:29:52] private contract that ever
[4:29:58] stay realities of passes all
[4:30:02] city manager and city staff
[4:30:04] includes private developer
[4:30:07] utility provider center
[4:30:08] corporation as a city manager
[4:30:09] economic development director
[4:30:13] sign an nda before presenting
[4:30:13] a project that agreement
[4:30:15] cannot bypass public. Records
[4:30:22] request. The custodian of
[4:30:23] records the city manager and
[4:30:26] staff custodians of the
[4:30:28] public's information and
[4:30:29] tractor one 19 any document
[4:30:31] text message or email
[4:30:35] generated by city manager or
[4:30:36] staff any business
[4:30:37] automatically becomes public
[4:30:43] record. Commissioner end of
[4:30:43] the year should you spoke to
[4:30:51] us to time keep look at
[4:30:52] because you are and then the
[4:30:53] second that is that would be
[4:30:59] close afternoon.
[4:31:04] >> your tell you.
[4:31:04] >> that MISTER Starts
[4:31:05] commissioner stops for good me
[4:31:10] correct sir. MISTER Duvall
[4:31:11] commissioner default forgive
[4:31:13] me, I'm sorry you're correct
[4:31:16] as well know, you to have
[4:31:20] child you right here that the
[4:31:21] city manager years as a order
[4:31:24] to keep that information from
[4:31:27] the diocese are really that
[4:31:28] stupid that we just have the
[4:31:29] stand that we elected
[4:31:37] officials todd. So they're
[4:31:41] trying to sit there and show.
[4:31:51] The top sent not that MAY
[4:31:56] cause your very disrespectful
[4:32:06] mentioned you has this is not
[4:32:13] private enterprise we knew it.
[4:32:16] Responsibility is center not
[4:32:20] it does nets. Led it that's
[4:32:22] just a fact that's what law
[4:32:29] is. If you want to the in the
[4:32:30] beginning everybody what be
[4:32:32] here listening to an hour of
[4:32:32] trade at.
[4:32:33] >> when you can literally look
[4:32:34] it up and find out what the
[4:32:35] law is I yield my time. Thank
[4:32:45] you.
[4:32:46] >> well I don't believe and
[4:32:47] the a's are extremely bad
[4:32:51] business they. Make people
[4:32:52] feel that there's something
[4:32:55] bad about it that you're
[4:32:56] hiding something it is just
[4:32:57] poor business practice. And
[4:33:03] instead I really do believe
[4:33:03] that all applications we
[4:33:04] should have the ability to
[4:33:05] review the application to make
[4:33:08] sure it's it's compliant. It's
[4:33:11] a far company our community
[4:33:11] that something we want with
[4:33:13] our community I think there's
[4:33:14] anything technology wise or
[4:33:15] otherwise that is anything
[4:33:16] surprising nowadays. But I
[4:33:19] would like to recommend that
[4:33:21] instead that will you reject
[4:33:23] the ability to use in da's
[4:33:24] that you allow applicant under
[4:33:29] florida statute, one 19 the
[4:33:29] ability to request the
[4:33:32] redaction of their name their
[4:33:32] address and other information
[4:33:35] so just give them an ability
[4:33:36] if they want to propose an
[4:33:36] application just given the
[4:33:38] ability redact information
[4:33:39] names are banking anything
[4:33:43] under section one 19. This way
[4:33:44] and allows the community to
[4:33:45] still know about the project
[4:33:46] investigate we've lost a
[4:33:48] year's worth the time.
[4:33:50] Developing. Environmental
[4:33:53] controls to protect us and
[4:33:57] this whole nda thing. Has
[4:33:58] really tainted this commission
[4:34:00] that really has for the
[4:34:01] community, it's very very sad.
[4:34:02] So it's poor business practice
[4:34:03] and I think it needs to be
[4:34:04] abolished and eliminate that
[4:34:15] thank you I thank you.
[4:34:16] >> panto cars in the core
[4:34:18] someone offer the workaround
[4:34:19] this is procedure it's not
[4:34:24] with the ordinance what if the
[4:34:24] city manager just had during
[4:34:28] his one-on-one conversations
[4:34:29] with you hey I think it might
[4:34:33] be a good idea if the
[4:34:33] commissioner decides the
[4:34:34] commission decides to maybe
[4:34:36] discuss data centers because
[4:34:37] at the time back in FEBRUARY
[4:34:38] or MARCH it was starting to be
[4:34:40] a hot topic with the arcadia
[4:34:43] this way the city manager
[4:34:44] does not violate his nba that
[4:34:49] he had signed you guys don't
[4:34:50] anything is coming but you
[4:34:51] could have the conversation
[4:34:53] because it was already out in
[4:34:54] the public regarding data
[4:34:55] centers and what they wanted
[4:34:58] to do if they came to port. I
[4:34:59] will give also another example
[4:35:03] about why and the a's are gut.
[4:35:04] City managers also stated, I'm
[4:35:05] sorry to pick MISTER Fletcher
[4:35:09] but this is a good one that he
[4:35:09] would like to see something
[4:35:14] like maybe of a minor league.
[4:35:15] Hockey team come that topic on
[4:35:17] the philadelphia flyers is a
[4:35:20] big flyers so what there was
[4:35:21] no nda and everyone got
[4:35:24] excited because hey guess what
[4:35:25] flyers are coming there teams
[4:35:26] coming and what not something
[4:35:29] felt the road. Then now we
[4:35:32] have a whole bunch of upset
[4:35:33] residents because there was
[4:35:34] something that fell through
[4:35:35] when they knew what it was
[4:35:37] let's just off key example,
[4:35:38] but it's also something is
[4:35:41] what would happen. And then
[4:35:46] debbie mcdowell he's submitted
[4:35:48] a comment she wanted this let
[4:35:49] the commission know that the
[4:35:52] commission can direct the city
[4:35:54] attorney to reach out to the
[4:35:55] attorney general for specific
[4:35:57] ruling on this matter
[4:35:59] regarding the commission being
[4:35:59] down by an nda and how the nba
[4:36:03] applies to the commission.
[4:36:04] >> the attorney general will
[4:36:06] answer if the board gives
[4:36:06] direction and I apologize if
[4:36:07] that's something that
[4:36:08] commissioner emrich should
[4:36:09] also because I don't know when
[4:36:09] this came during the
[4:36:10] conversation because it thank
[4:36:12] you.
[4:36:19] >> and for or to use
[4:36:21] nondisclosure agreements in a
[4:36:22] way transparency the best
[4:36:23] PRESIDENT And elected
[4:36:24] officials from knowing what is
[4:36:24] being discussed on matters
[4:36:25] affecting our community. I
[4:36:29] would support just them and
[4:36:33] forced the language to
[4:36:33] accomplish mess that's I
[4:36:34] understand the florida certain
[4:36:35] confidential information how
[4:36:35] nda should never be used to
[4:36:36] circumvent florida's public
[4:36:38] records and open government
[4:36:39] requirements for ticket
[4:36:40] information from the public
[4:36:42] simply because a private party
[4:36:44] confident reality. The reason
[4:36:46] situation demonstrates why is
[4:36:49] important. Residents struggle
[4:36:49] to obtain information about
[4:36:50] major potential development
[4:36:53] while was in place. That's
[4:36:55] concern that's concern every
[4:36:56] taxpayer projects that could
[4:36:57] affect our water supply to see
[4:36:58] them and infrastructure
[4:37:00] environment neighborhoods
[4:37:00] traffic happening taxes
[4:37:04] deserve transparency from the
[4:37:04] beginning. I estimate the
[4:37:05] commission not to create a
[4:37:06] process that normalizes are
[4:37:09] encouraged and the a's for
[4:37:11] city business. At a minimum,
[4:37:12] no restricting information
[4:37:13] that is legally required to be
[4:37:15] public prevent commissioners
[4:37:16] from receiving information
[4:37:16] necessary to perform their
[4:37:17] duties or prevent timely
[4:37:20] disclosure to residents.
[4:37:21] Government works for the
[4:37:21] public not private developers
[4:37:25] consultants and other party
[4:37:26] seeking confidentiality.
[4:37:27] Residents are ability and the
[4:37:29] ability jail. Participate in
[4:37:33] decisions based on incomplete
[4:37:34] information. Please vote no to
[4:37:35] allowing andy is to be used to
[4:37:35] limit public transparency or
[4:37:40] accountability. So the other
[4:37:41] commissioner should be made
[4:37:42] aware all unable to decide
[4:37:43] whether the information should
[4:37:46] be kept secret or disclosed.
[4:37:46] Officials of the city should
[4:37:50] make these determinations. Not
[4:37:53] a and should be banned
[4:37:53] outright this is dealings in
[4:37:54] the dark and has no place in
[4:37:58] legitimate representative city
[4:38:00] governments 7 men get that's
[4:38:01] you haven't got here and how
[4:38:03] nba was born in a nutshell
[4:38:04] florida statute 1, 6, 6.0 2
[4:38:04] want to clarify public
[4:38:06] interest to earth in our
[4:38:13] state, a and state. I a statue
[4:38:14] 2 88.0 7, 5, gives permission
[4:38:15] for confidentiality for
[4:38:15] proprietary information
[4:38:17] related to growth to a
[4:38:21] business in 2021 the
[4:38:22] commission approved on consent
[4:38:23] the use of a template for city
[4:38:26] manager to sign the agreement
[4:38:28] city charter section 9.0 out
[4:38:29] of the city manager the
[4:38:30] authority to sign off on
[4:38:32] tracks agreements and
[4:38:34] applications for the city
[4:38:35] actors such has been approved
[4:38:37] by the city commission at a
[4:38:38] regular or special city
[4:38:38] commission meeting hindsight
[4:38:41] is an amazing teacher I have
[4:38:43] to wonder does that like that
[4:38:44] charters something to ponder
[4:38:47] and easy fix to the nba versus
[4:38:48] charter issue is to remove the
[4:38:50] city manager's ability to sign
[4:38:51] future and the this way
[4:38:53] there's no doubt it the
[4:38:54] charter, however, the next
[4:38:56] thing to ponder what's the
[4:38:57] point of an idea the
[4:38:58] commission is required to make
[4:39:00] decisions and a public meeting
[4:39:01] I'm not too sure commission
[4:39:03] will approve an agreement with
[4:39:04] actions but it still allows
[4:39:05] the business that ability to
[4:39:09] have an nti if the commission
[4:39:10] approved at this deserves
[4:39:11] further discussion and input
[4:39:12] from the city attorney
[4:39:13] tonight, the commission MAY
[4:39:14] want to direct the city
[4:39:16] attorney to conduct a legal of
[4:39:16] whether the city manager made
[4:39:17] her feature and the a's on of
[4:39:21] the city's charter once legal
[4:39:21] review is complete the
[4:39:24] commission should discuss the
[4:39:26] findings following the chart
[4:39:27] takes priority transparency is
[4:39:27] paramount along with
[4:39:28] commission and citizen
[4:39:33] involvement. That women have
[4:39:34] commissioners of the cm does
[4:39:36] not have to notify them we the
[4:39:37] people the residents of north
[4:39:37] port we are a city of the
[4:39:38] commissioners are elected by
[4:39:41] asked to represent us how
[4:39:42] could any commissioner for
[4:39:44] this is the very definition of
[4:39:45] taxation without
[4:39:46] representation, not acceptable
[4:39:47] just like the data centers if
[4:39:48] allowed to destroy everything
[4:39:50] that israel florida. We don't
[4:39:53] want our city painter and talk
[4:39:54] our health is at risk our
[4:39:54] water supply, energy grid
[4:40:00] clean air achieve anything.
[4:40:01] Craig mission I want to raise
[4:40:02] concerns regarding city staff
[4:40:03] entering into non-disclosure
[4:40:04] agreements without prior
[4:40:06] knowledge or consent of the
[4:40:07] city commission. My concern is
[4:40:10] not whether an nda
[4:40:12] occasionally survey legend
[4:40:14] legitimate city my concern to
[4:40:15] have the right to make that
[4:40:15] decision under what
[4:40:16] circumstances and whether that
[4:40:19] kind of illinois cities are
[4:40:19] interested conducting the
[4:40:21] day-to-day business of the
[4:40:23] city but there's a significant
[4:40:24] difference chamber routine
[4:40:25] administrative work and
[4:40:25] entering into an agreement
[4:40:26] that might restrict what
[4:40:27] information can be shared with
[4:40:29] the public or even with their
[4:40:30] elected representatives. The
[4:40:30] city commission is accountable
[4:40:31] to the voters on election
[4:40:36] staff should not have on track
[4:40:37] enter into confidentiality
[4:40:38] agreements on behalf of the
[4:40:38] city without their policies
[4:40:39] limitations and oversight
[4:40:41] established by the commission
[4:40:42] at a minimum I believe
[4:40:43] commission establish a formal
[4:40:46] policy requiring want clearly
[4:40:47] defined circumstances under
[4:40:48] which makes to nba on behalf
[4:40:51] of the city to review and
[4:40:53] approval by city attorney for
[4:40:54] execution 3 proper
[4:40:55] notification of the city
[4:40:58] commission whenever an nda is
[4:40:59] executed, including its
[4:41:00] general and the parties
[4:41:01] involved to fullest extent
[4:41:05] like legally permissible for
[4:41:06] commission approval for
[4:41:06] executing nba's involving
[4:41:07] major economic development
[4:41:09] projects, significant
[4:41:10] infrastructure demands, public
[4:41:11] incentives are matters likely
[4:41:13] to come before the commission
[4:41:14] for future action transparent.
[4:41:19] You should be the
[4:41:20] confidentiality should be no
[4:41:21] going to find exception and
[4:41:22] there should always be
[4:41:22] accountability for who
[4:41:25] authorized and watt I'm asking
[4:41:27] the commission to establish
[4:41:28] cartels rather than leaving
[4:41:29] the only to the discretion of
[4:41:33] an al elected staff. Just I do
[4:41:34] not believe any commissioner
[4:41:35] should be allowed to sign an
[4:41:36] nda that keeps information
[4:41:38] away from citizens. For us.
[4:41:40] Could you imagine an employee
[4:41:41] of year signing an nda said
[4:41:42] you couldn't know what they
[4:41:43] were up to it is insane to me
[4:41:43] that this would even be
[4:41:50] allowed to happen. Was not
[4:41:51] asked remember every minute
[4:41:52] facts, port residents women
[4:41:54] shouldn't be differently be
[4:41:55] transparent upfront and honest
[4:41:55] no one is like no one likes
[4:42:01] deception. See you I support
[4:42:02] commissioners and residents
[4:42:03] deserve more transparency,
[4:42:04] especially when major
[4:42:06] development the cetacean not
[4:42:07] the main agreements that keep
[4:42:08] important information from the
[4:42:09] public without commission at
[4:42:12] least knowing makes este if
[4:42:13] project that could
[4:42:14] significantly impact our
[4:42:15] community residents deserve as
[4:42:15] much transparency as legally
[4:42:20] possible. Mary matalin. And
[4:42:26] you to be sure commissioners.
[4:42:27] Facing an indication sounds
[4:42:29] like a step toward
[4:42:30] transparency simply notifying
[4:42:31] the commission is a
[4:42:32] dangerously weak approach that
[4:42:34] still legitimate eyes is
[4:42:36] corporate deals in our city
[4:42:37] massive tech developers try to
[4:42:39] sneak into our neighborhoods
[4:42:40] high impact industrial
[4:42:41] center's they use aggressive
[4:42:41] nda is to keep the public
[4:42:42] completely in the dark until
[4:42:45] it's too late, merely
[4:42:46] establishing process to notify
[4:42:46] city leadership that a secret
[4:42:48] agreement exists does not ups.
[4:42:49] Absolutely nothing to stop the
[4:42:52] secrecy of self we must push
[4:42:55] back against any allies do not
[4:42:55] just want our commissioners to
[4:42:57] be notified when a corporation
[4:43:01] for we want ban on non
[4:43:02] disclosure agreements between
[4:43:03] public officials and private
[4:43:04] developers are local
[4:43:04] government should operate with
[4:43:07] absolute transparency letting
[4:43:08] predatory developers by our
[4:43:09] city staff were elected
[4:43:12] leaders to a level quickly
[4:43:13] secrecy distress, public trust
[4:43:13] and leaves residents
[4:43:14] vulnerable to hit in an
[4:43:17] environmental and
[4:43:17] infrastructure. Cost demand
[4:43:19] absolute transparency, not
[4:43:22] just medication. Stacey
[4:43:23] mention. Commissioner should
[4:43:25] be informed of any existing
[4:43:26] nba's nda should not be
[4:43:27] tolerated in north port, the
[4:43:28] residents deserve the right to
[4:43:28] be informed at all times and
[4:43:33] that's on there.
[4:43:36] >> and request a mayor.
[4:43:40] commissioner think first I
[4:43:46] want
[4:43:47] >> make a motion to direct
[4:43:50] staff to draft an ordinance to
[4:43:51] bring back to commission for
[4:43:51] first reading to do away with
[4:43:52] and the a's in the city
[4:43:57] of north port.
[4:43:58] >> second for discussion I
[4:44:00] have a motion on the floor
[4:44:02] made commissioner stokes
[4:44:03] seconded by vice mayor and
[4:44:08] vice mayor you want like to.
[4:44:10] >> propose.
[4:44:17] >> that. Struck city turning
[4:44:20] to prepare ordinance
[4:44:21] eliminating administrative
[4:44:25] approval of an nda is and
[4:44:27] require that city commission
[4:44:27] decide whether or not to
[4:44:31] permit the city to engage in
[4:44:31] nda with appropriate
[4:44:32] information redacted
[4:44:34] including.
[4:44:39] >> company name.
[4:44:41] >> perspective city location
[4:44:44] industry industry segment
[4:44:45] applications and products and
[4:44:46] other appropriate business and
[4:44:53] technical details.
[4:44:54] >> question there. Yes,
[4:44:54] discussion that's what we're
[4:45:02] doing that were occur.
[4:45:03] Commission would have to under
[4:45:07] the sunshine discuss
[4:45:08] everything about the proposed
[4:45:12] project for which nda is being
[4:45:15] requested which undermine the
[4:45:15] entire concept of the nba in
[4:45:16] the first place so I'll see
[4:45:21] how that is even practical.
[4:45:22] >> possibility absolutely
[4:45:25] discussing so.
[4:45:27] >> I was laid out that kind of
[4:45:27] information that would be
[4:45:33] redacted. And the conversation
[4:45:39] which would protecting.
[4:45:40] >> the.
[4:45:40] >> business and technology
[4:45:43] plans of the company with the
[4:45:45] ability of this commission to
[4:45:53] say. Whether or not it should
[4:45:54] move MAY I ask a question and
[4:45:57] city attorney would it be
[4:46:03] possible. Is there any
[4:46:03] conflict with existing
[4:46:08] legislation. For the city
[4:46:12] commissioners to have that
[4:46:13] information but to read at
[4:46:27] that information public
[4:46:35] >> I do I do think so. Again
[4:46:40] problem I I'm trying to
[4:46:43] >> is if this body has an
[4:46:43] opportunity to save the
[4:46:45] details of an nda.
[4:46:51] >> and.
[4:46:51] >> just as an example, it's a
[4:46:52] heavy industrial project.
[4:46:58] That. Based on that the
[4:46:59] location of that we would have
[4:47:03] all of those details. We would
[4:47:05] have the information to decide
[4:47:10] well no we really don't think
[4:47:10] it's appropriate for the city
[4:47:13] to enter into an nda with this
[4:47:14] particular project because of
[4:47:20] the possible. Quality of life
[4:47:21] implications, so we would need
[4:47:26] that information. To make an
[4:47:27] informed decision about
[4:47:28] whether or not to move forward
[4:47:34] with an nda. But we have no
[4:47:35] concerns so let's say it's
[4:47:42] simply business company
[4:47:43] doesn't want to be public
[4:47:43] information that they're
[4:47:46] planning to purchase and low
[4:47:50] case at a certain parcel in
[4:47:54] the city. That's in my mind is
[4:47:54] certainly appropriate.
[4:47:57] Protection and we might all
[4:47:59] decide and a public setting.
[4:48:06] To approve that nda with with
[4:48:07] potentially damaging
[4:48:08] information redacted that's
[4:48:11] what I'm trying to.
[4:48:14] >> get to how do we have that
[4:48:15] conversation without share
[4:48:18] that information publicly we
[4:48:20] could do it in one eye was we
[4:48:21] can figure that then we have
[4:48:25] to come here as a body.
[4:48:27] >> to discuss whether or not
[4:48:28] to an acting and on that
[4:48:30] project and the subject of
[4:48:33] that conversation would
[4:48:35] inadvertently or overtly
[4:48:36] disclose information that
[4:48:37] would be subject to the nba.
[4:48:41] It's just not practical
[4:48:43] workable situation, the
[4:48:44] existing legislation that
[4:48:45] exists to protect proprietary
[4:48:46] information that the state has
[4:48:52] mandated. Says it's protect
[4:48:58] and their information.
[4:48:59] >> we don't need and that
[4:49:00] because if they have a private
[4:49:01] or information that can
[4:49:02] disclosed to public records.
[4:49:06] >> we can discuss it. But it
[4:49:09] can't be too slow so in
[4:49:11] protest the I go back to the
[4:49:13] original premise of this whole
[4:49:14] thing which is we are not
[4:49:15] private business. We are the
[4:49:19] government we spend taxpayers
[4:49:21] money. You know work for the
[4:49:21] public we represent the public
[4:49:26] and. We don't know everything
[4:49:28] that's going on and if public
[4:49:29] can't know pretty much
[4:49:31] everything that's going and
[4:49:32] the system's not working the
[4:49:34] way it was intended to it is
[4:49:37] not private business and if
[4:49:40] loses a deal there's only 3 in
[4:49:41] all the time or it could come
[4:49:43] up with so I don't see how
[4:49:48] even real problem and the
[4:49:50] >> came into play look at
[4:49:51] where we are right so I don't
[4:49:56] blame anybody except that.
[4:49:57] >> stan follow the law fall
[4:49:59] the process they did what it
[4:50:01] was they were supposed to and
[4:50:03] what they were allowed to do
[4:50:03] and look at where gas. I say
[4:50:04] get rid of these things
[4:50:05] because they don't serve any
[4:50:06] purpose, the way I see it. But
[4:50:07] anyway that's my take. Thank
[4:50:12] you to me.
[4:50:14] >> most of they're so I guess
[4:50:15] you know anyone thought we got
[4:50:17] a motion we've got a minute
[4:50:18] we've got to go first write
[4:50:18] that.
[4:50:23] >> I mean we get in the
[4:50:23] moment. Propose you did
[4:50:24] propose it as an amendment you
[4:50:29] put that we were in
[4:50:30] discussion.
[4:50:32] >> vote on it there was no
[4:50:34] second on would you like me
[4:50:35] articulate you would have to
[4:50:37] do it
[4:50:40] >> and strapped city attorney.
[4:50:44] To prepare an ordinance
[4:50:44] eliminating administrative
[4:50:52] approval. Of nba's. And
[4:50:52] require that city
[4:50:58] commissioners decide. Whether
[4:50:58] or not to permit the city to
[4:51:03] engage in an nda. Let me know
[4:51:08] when you're there. With
[4:51:09] appropriate information reid
[4:51:10] acted in any public
[4:51:17] conversation. Some of that
[4:51:18] information could include
[4:51:22] company name. Prospective city
[4:51:28] location. Industry segment.
[4:51:33] Application our products. Or
[4:51:34] other appropriate business or
[4:51:49] technical details.
[4:51:50] Thank
[4:51:50] >> have an amendment on the
[4:51:51] floor made by vice mayor
[4:51:59] london do I have a second. I
[4:52:02] do not have a son that second.
[4:52:04] That they'll sue to a lack of
[4:52:04] a second. Now on to the
[4:52:07] original motion. There's
[4:52:17] nothing to please vote. 41
[4:52:22] with vice mayor dissenting.
[4:52:23] >> would like I think that
[4:52:30] this. Decisions severely
[4:52:31] negatively impacts the from
[4:52:32] attracting potential
[4:52:35] businesses. We would want to
[4:52:42] have here. And. Folks it's not
[4:52:46] like beaten down or to come
[4:52:49] here. So do something that
[4:52:50] artificially makes it more
[4:52:56] difficult or impossible. For
[4:52:56] them.
[4:52:57] >> to come here let's face
[4:52:59] these companies have options
[4:53:01] if they're considering a place
[4:53:03] to locate their businesses
[4:53:08] that considering 2 or 3
[4:53:08] locations. So if this says get
[4:53:09] back don't know we've all for
[4:53:16] taft. Your business or
[4:53:18] technical information they
[4:53:19] will go somewhere else and we
[4:53:19] won't get the jobs and we will
[4:53:23] get the tax relief and I'm
[4:53:24] sure there are a lot of people
[4:53:26] in the city that would like
[4:53:30] every bit of building to stop
[4:53:33] today. Sorry we can't legally
[4:53:34] do that all we can do and what
[4:53:39] we are responsible for is to
[4:53:42] make sure that 5 1015 years
[4:53:44] from now we have a city that
[4:53:48] is financially viable and this
[4:53:49] does to us in that
[4:53:55] responsibility. I yield.
[4:54:01] >> moving on to item 26 to
[4:54:01] continue discussion and
[4:54:03] possible action regarding
[4:54:04] reversal of administrative
[4:54:08] approval process with that the
[4:54:09] united unified land
[4:54:13] development code requested by
[4:54:14] commissioner goals.
[4:54:15] >> commissioner still thank
[4:54:18] you mayor. Well. First though
[4:54:23] say that. Administrator for
[4:54:31] approval. Okay, but. The
[4:54:33] concept of administrative
[4:54:35] approval close to the law
[4:54:38] which is if something is
[4:54:38] compliant with the
[4:54:39] comprehensive plan and the
[4:54:44] uldc. Then it can be approved.
[4:54:44] There's no legal justification
[4:54:49] for tonight. And I it going to
[4:54:56] change that. Well prior
[4:55:02] reported which I we voted to
[4:55:04] allow administrative approval
[4:55:06] which created a process
[4:55:07] whereby something could be
[4:55:08] okay because it met with the
[4:55:08] comp plan and the unified land
[4:55:14] development code. For staff.
[4:55:18] What it did was it took away
[4:55:18] and it took away
[4:55:24] inclusiveness. Even it's
[4:55:27] illegal way from a legal
[4:55:28] standpoint, so what proposing
[4:55:29] here and the reason I asked
[4:55:30] for this item on the agenda.
[4:55:35] He said I think. Projects well
[4:55:41] not projects any project. Well
[4:55:43] we have to define which
[4:55:46] projects but to me apartments
[4:55:47] commercial projects pretty
[4:55:49] much anything except
[4:55:49] single-family all kind of
[4:55:50] development should calm
[4:55:53] through commission that not
[4:55:55] just the commission. But the
[4:56:01] public. To know. To provide
[4:56:04] their input their or opinions.
[4:56:10] >> stay still has.
[4:56:11] >> the administrative approval
[4:56:14] process that they have to
[4:56:16] follow it's complying with the
[4:56:17] comp plan what we say it can
[4:56:21] get approved just we shouldn't
[4:56:23] think decisions as an elected
[4:56:25] body without input of staff.
[4:56:31] Public case for us community
[4:56:32] input we should make our
[4:56:32] decisions based on the
[4:56:36] collective been pulled and I
[4:56:36] think the administrative
[4:56:44] approval. Even though we here
[4:56:47] should be collect and I think
[4:56:48] it's important that again for
[4:56:48] the same reason it's
[4:56:55] unfriendly a's. Any time an
[4:56:56] elected does not know what's
[4:57:01] going on that's a problem and
[4:57:04] it is a problem I get people
[4:57:05] saying hey are the corner of
[4:57:08] such and such and such and I I
[4:57:13] have no I don't know anything
[4:57:14] about project before you think
[4:57:15] this is nothing really wanted
[4:57:18] say except that it doesn't
[4:57:18] bode well, know I should you
[4:57:23] know. There's no reason why
[4:57:27] know, and I'm not trying to
[4:57:28] take away. The city's ability
[4:57:30] do what's legal in right now
[4:57:32] the reason this happens so you
[4:57:33] get some perspective in
[4:57:34] history is always with prior
[4:57:38] to getting elected. To a
[4:57:39] product that was brought
[4:57:40] forward before this before the
[4:57:43] commission at that time in
[4:57:44] 2021. Citizens remain
[4:57:46] presentation. Close to 50
[4:57:52] people. Did a beautiful job.
[4:57:53] I'm he's variance or special
[4:57:56] exception. And commissioners
[4:58:01] voted in favor of the citizens
[4:58:04] perspective. 100% opposition
[4:58:13] to the law should word. The
[4:58:15] came up. And required. A
[4:58:19] request for change. And the
[4:58:20] mayor wasn't the mayor at the
[4:58:26] time in my cell photo id to
[4:58:28] allow the applicant pool out
[4:58:31] change much to the chagrin but
[4:58:31] we followed a little because
[4:58:34] we didn't succumb. To public
[4:58:37] will that's what concept
[4:58:40] behind this administrative
[4:58:43] approving protect the city
[4:58:44] from making mistakes that were
[4:58:45] politically motivated treated
[4:58:50] so that I get that we all have
[4:58:52] to follow the law that's the
[4:58:55] first rule follow the
[4:58:56] >> transparency and
[4:59:00] inclusiveness. Runs right side
[4:59:03] and for that reason I think we
[4:59:06] really need to amend ordinance
[4:59:07] straight approval process to
[4:59:11] make sure that all projects
[4:59:12] save single family housing
[4:59:15] developments have to come
[4:59:16] before commission can do so in
[4:59:17] workshop environment state
[4:59:20] we're not going to get but
[4:59:22] they come for where citizens
[4:59:23] can provide public
[4:59:24] commissioners can ask
[4:59:24] questions and step in it's
[4:59:28] for. What they hear from us
[4:59:30] and then they go back in the
[4:59:35] but they MAY well be able to
[4:59:35] do whatever they do with
[4:59:36] benefit of our input and I
[4:59:37] just think that's important.
[4:59:41] So.
[4:59:41] >> but due to commission here
[4:59:49] send us commissioner deval.
[4:59:50] >> must speak your name is
[4:59:57] right there I say the from the
[5:00:00] but thank you vice mayor your
[5:00:02] next yes, thank you. My.
[5:00:07] >> perception of this.
[5:00:07] >> is that it is our job as a
[5:00:10] body to make the rules. And
[5:00:11] it's staff's job to carry them
[5:00:12] out.
[5:00:16] >> and.
[5:00:18] >> I do see our role.
[5:00:22] >> and as. Approving projects
[5:00:31] item. Really don't think I
[5:00:33] want to spend a lot of time
[5:00:34] discussing projects that we
[5:00:39] can impact. I understand and
[5:00:40] and I agree the public has a
[5:00:44] right to know. We do have
[5:00:49] information on our website
[5:00:51] I've gone to a number of times
[5:00:52] when I've a lot cleared and I
[5:00:53] don't know what's going on
[5:00:58] there I go to the map. And I
[5:01:00] find out it's not the easiest
[5:01:02] to use because there are so
[5:01:03] many projects going on in the
[5:01:03] city you can always find the
[5:01:07] one you're looking for. I
[5:01:12] think there's better way then
[5:01:13] having 5 city commissioners
[5:01:18] and staff. Discussing projects
[5:01:22] that meet the rules in order
[5:01:23] to inform the public. I think
[5:01:27] there are other ways if we get
[5:01:29] creative of informing the
[5:01:32] public of what's happening and
[5:01:33] where MAY adding some and not
[5:01:36] going to try to craft a
[5:01:37] solution here. But I think
[5:01:40] there are more efficient and
[5:01:44] effective ways to the public
[5:01:45] of what's happening where then
[5:01:48] to chew up a lot of time
[5:01:53] meetings are expensive. Think
[5:01:55] a lot all the staff that sits
[5:01:57] here listening to opine on on
[5:02:01] all of these matters. I would
[5:02:04] love to do an estimate of what
[5:02:06] every hour of commission
[5:02:09] meeting time cost the city.
[5:02:13] And I'm all when. We're doing
[5:02:19] it to execute. Jobs. And
[5:02:22] ensuring that people get the
[5:02:22] information they need that we
[5:02:23] get the information we need to
[5:02:28] do our jobs. Don't think
[5:02:31] that's discussing. Every
[5:02:34] project minus single-family
[5:02:35] homes that comes before this
[5:02:39] body. I just don't think it's
[5:02:41] an efficient way it's our job
[5:02:42] to come up with the world if
[5:02:45] the rules right then let's
[5:02:48] changeup and then staff's job
[5:02:49] to execute according to those
[5:02:53] rules.
[5:02:58] >> commissioners you first I'm
[5:03:00] not looking to take away. Or
[5:03:06] to approve projects, ok go up
[5:03:06] the pace whether the project
[5:03:07] is compliant with the comp
[5:03:10] plan you will be safe. But
[5:03:11] first of all to address the
[5:03:16] issue of staff's time. With
[5:03:21] all due we represent citizens
[5:03:25] in the city and it all up. I
[5:03:29] just for the life of me you
[5:03:32] know one of the biggest
[5:03:33] problems we seem to have in
[5:03:36] the city is the fact that
[5:03:38] people are you know some
[5:03:40] people anyway are up the
[5:03:42] concern over the fact that
[5:03:44] there is a spotlight shined
[5:03:45] what going especially in light
[5:03:46] of the fact that there's so
[5:03:47] much going on in our city
[5:03:50] presently, and I don't think
[5:03:53] we're wasting anybody's time
[5:03:54] by being able to talk about
[5:03:55] projects that are moving
[5:04:00] through the city and to go
[5:04:03] chase information down on a
[5:04:03] web site away from quarterly
[5:04:05] meeting by the economic
[5:04:06] development department to give
[5:04:09] us a slide presentation a high
[5:04:11] level of what's going on is
[5:04:13] what looking for assistance
[5:04:16] are looking for we want talk
[5:04:17] about apartment building
[5:04:21] corner of and going what we're
[5:04:23] going to do about like that
[5:04:25] you love landscaping and said
[5:04:26] that saying and what are we
[5:04:28] going to make sure there's no
[5:04:30] noise and parking issues
[5:04:31] traffic issues and these are
[5:04:31] the kinds of conversations
[5:04:37] everybody I think
[5:04:39] >> we have because the
[5:04:40] administrative process just
[5:04:40] allows him to grease off
[5:04:43] through because legally a
[5:04:45] lull. We have to follow the
[5:04:47] law keeps saying that but that
[5:04:48] doesn't mean we can't good
[5:04:50] health inc discussions as a
[5:04:52] city and as a commission about
[5:04:54] far as taking too much
[5:04:57] friendly wetzel full-time
[5:05:00] workshop every single I don't
[5:05:02] care all here 7 days a week if
[5:05:02] did do it I just think we've
[5:05:04] got to get better at this
[5:05:05] stuff. And we've got more
[5:05:08] transparent inclusive let's
[5:05:11] really do what it is we say
[5:05:11] what we always say oh trying
[5:05:12] to be transparent inclusion
[5:05:16] but then we I mean like we've
[5:05:22] got fix the things that okay
[5:05:25] I'm looking to break laws I'm
[5:05:26] not going serve stamp some
[5:05:27] authority to approve
[5:05:28] processees that are legally
[5:05:33] allowable but. I the right to
[5:05:35] know what's going and talk
[5:05:36] about it before gets approved
[5:05:38] and I love the citizen's staff
[5:05:39] that same right I don't see
[5:05:40] anything wrong with that at
[5:05:42] all I really just don't. Thank
[5:05:46] you thank you. Vice mayor.
[5:05:51] >> I also view my job as a
[5:05:52] full-time job. But I can see a
[5:05:53] lot better ways of spending my
[5:05:58] time. I love you all and I
[5:06:00] love time we spent together
[5:06:01] but frankly rather engaging
[5:06:05] with the community and sitting
[5:06:06] up here talking about
[5:06:06] something that we cannot
[5:06:11] impact think that there's
[5:06:15] something wrong with the uldc
[5:06:17] if commissioners believe.
[5:06:22] Based community input that
[5:06:23] we're putting apartment
[5:06:24] buildings and higher density
[5:06:27] housing in the wrong place.
[5:06:28] Then let's bring back that man
[5:06:36] out. Talk about talk about the
[5:06:37] landscaping and buffer and
[5:06:39] other requirements that go
[5:06:41] along with that type of
[5:06:42] development that's a healthy
[5:06:46] discussion to have. And
[5:06:47] certainly shares with the
[5:06:51] community thought process
[5:06:53] behind zoning some think a lot
[5:06:56] of times we we look at it was
[5:07:02] chapter 3 it's changeup
[5:07:03] chapter 3 was the zoning what
[5:07:08] we often neglect to look as a
[5:07:09] community. It's chapter 4
[5:07:10] which are all the building and
[5:07:13] set back and all of those
[5:07:14] other requirements that
[5:07:14] commissioner stokes was
[5:07:17] talking about. Again I say if
[5:07:22] if we. And you said your cell
[5:07:25] commissioner if got something
[5:07:28] wrong. We need to address we
[5:07:31] don't have to discuss projects
[5:07:35] at a workshop where we can't
[5:07:37] change anything if we suspect
[5:07:39] something is wrong with our
[5:07:40] rules that let's talk about
[5:07:46] the rules. Its educational for
[5:07:48] the community. Let's look from
[5:07:50] a totality not just the zoning
[5:07:52] not just where we're putting
[5:07:53] but one of the design
[5:07:57] requirements for that tie a
[5:08:01] building. What thought process
[5:08:02] went into protecting
[5:08:03] neighborhoods that are in the
[5:08:05] year you're that kind of
[5:08:06] development that is a
[5:08:08] productive healthy
[5:08:11] conversation for this body to
[5:08:12] have and a situation where we
[5:08:17] can effect change other than
[5:08:19] that rather have with a
[5:08:19] resident of this community
[5:08:25] where we can talk about stuff.
[5:08:26] I've got a wind or whatever
[5:08:28] where I can engage with people
[5:08:29] who live here about their
[5:08:30] concerns and hopes and dreams
[5:08:32] for the city. I yield
[5:08:35] commissioner petro.
[5:08:36] >> I think commissioner stokes
[5:08:41] is trying say need the
[5:08:42] approval his trade approval
[5:08:43] back so we be in the situation
[5:08:47] we're in right basically which
[5:08:50] doesn't require us know all
[5:08:51] the administrative staff what
[5:08:56] the stat us.
[5:08:56] >> thank city clerk public
[5:09:11] comment.
[5:09:13] >> I
[5:09:13] >> think with the
[5:09:14] administrative approval, is
[5:09:15] still operating under senate
[5:09:19] bill 7.84. Me plats. But in my
[5:09:22] research I found. But there is
[5:09:23] an exception to that senate
[5:09:31] bill. That says if it's within
[5:09:32] charter county. That there is
[5:09:32] an exception that the county
[5:09:35] charter would prevail over the
[5:09:39] senate bill. So I don't know I
[5:09:40] haven't had a chance yet to
[5:09:41] look at the county's charter.
[5:09:43] But the question is also i
[5:09:48] know I don't see anything in
[5:09:49] our charter. But if if we were
[5:09:50] to put something within to
[5:09:54] address that particular
[5:09:54] exception.
[5:09:55] >> that would be a question
[5:09:56] for the city attorney to look
[5:09:58] into for the commission. But
[5:10:02] in any event. We can never
[5:10:03] really defined administrative
[5:10:07] boundaries because we could
[5:10:08] define minor versus major
[5:10:11] actions structure land
[5:10:12] development regulations. So
[5:10:14] that only explicit minor
[5:10:18] objective tests are handled
[5:10:18] administratively forcing any
[5:10:19] gray areas are subject is
[5:10:21] interpretations back to a
[5:10:21] public vote before the
[5:10:26] commission. Establish strict
[5:10:27] oversight protocols that
[5:10:28] require mandatory staff 3 sons
[5:10:32] to the commission. Appeals we
[5:10:33] can ensure local land
[5:10:36] development codes provide a
[5:10:37] clear pathway for aggrieved
[5:10:38] parties or the commission
[5:10:39] itself to appeal the
[5:10:42] administrative staff
[5:10:43] decisions. So it depends how
[5:10:44] deep you want to get involved
[5:10:47] I mean at one time before the
[5:10:48] rewrite. You know commission
[5:10:50] had a lot more authority in
[5:10:51] the polls. A lot of what's
[5:10:54] going on with these
[5:10:55] developments and then senate
[5:10:56] bill 7.84 came into play and
[5:11:00] then that kind shifted things.
[5:11:01] So it depends on what this
[5:11:02] commission is willing to do
[5:11:03] and how much time you're
[5:11:05] willing to put into it. But
[5:11:07] again if you can put these
[5:11:10] restrictions within there then
[5:11:12] it still give staff the
[5:11:15] authority but they have to
[5:11:16] basically it's limited their
[5:11:17] authority basically is limited
[5:11:21] between the major or minor
[5:11:22] development. They have to let
[5:11:22] you notify on a monthly you
[5:11:24] know so you know what's going
[5:11:27] on then you can determine what
[5:11:28] your procedures in to new
[5:11:31] particles are going to be.
[5:11:32] >> so you know that's my
[5:11:48] edition. Thank you guys, thank
[5:11:48] >> robin vents and a makes a
[5:11:50] lot of sense and that's 20
[5:11:51] years of experience right
[5:11:52] there and to be able to do it
[5:11:55] up the top of her head.
[5:11:56] Amazing. Commissioner langdon
[5:11:57] there's community members
[5:11:58] right here that you can engage
[5:12:00] with them we have also been
[5:12:02] here now for how many hours
[5:12:03] and so for you to say rather
[5:12:06] be somewhere else is that they
[5:12:08] putting once again to say the
[5:12:10] least I really appreciate you
[5:12:11] revealing yourself and how you
[5:12:12] feel about the people that
[5:12:17] actually do show up. Reversing
[5:12:18] the administrative approval
[5:12:18] process to bring these massive
[5:12:20] projects back front of the
[5:12:21] public vote sounds like a
[5:12:25] victory for representation,
[5:12:25] but under florida's strict
[5:12:28] growth management laws and has
[5:12:29] to one 80 shifting a project
[5:12:30] from an administrative track
[5:12:31] to a political track after an
[5:12:34] application is already in play
[5:12:35] as a high-risk gamble that
[5:12:36] invites multi-million dollar
[5:12:39] property right losses. We do
[5:12:41] not need to alter the city
[5:12:42] standard processing tracks to
[5:12:46] win this but we need to the
[5:12:47] the strict unyielding
[5:12:51] environmental applied to any
[5:12:53] processing track. The
[5:12:55] important that can we have is
[5:13:00] immediate and protection
[5:13:00] ordinances.
[5:13:02] >> and the all replacement
[5:13:07] basis.
[5:13:08] >> we have the ability to do
[5:13:10] that still today later on
[5:13:12] still tell you that we have
[5:13:12] the ability to do that today,
[5:13:17] I'm not hearing anyone.
[5:13:19] >> every list I was clear
[5:13:20] parliament every structure for
[5:13:23] for protections it doesn't
[5:13:24] matter an application is
[5:13:27] reviewed by city staff are not
[5:13:28] that this guy was project
[5:13:32] cannot legally less to do
[5:13:35] massive water consumption will
[5:13:40] to 0 harm to shared resources.
[5:13:44] >> utilizing that pending
[5:13:47] doctor and today a 72 for time
[5:13:47] teamers from sneaking end
[5:13:51] where we might be stop
[5:13:52] changing the procedures world
[5:13:53] said the start protecting the
[5:13:59] court. Out pass tomorrow,
[5:14:00] well, protection ordinance and
[5:14:05] the recharge basin and what
[5:14:06] your hope for best parent
[5:14:06] that's sitting on your dress
[5:14:14] is going expire 180 well just
[5:14:15] expired than that one has pay
[5:14:17] for can be used and all of
[5:14:18] these that were asked in your
[5:14:20] right now pretty empty of for
[5:14:21] follow already for about his
[5:14:26] job as you have contract.
[5:14:28] Permits anyone that wants to
[5:14:31] build a hyper always at the
[5:14:33] has been a thorough does not
[5:14:37] apply to the stylus or any
[5:14:39] florida of was written to be
[5:14:41] pretty w's and you guys chose
[5:14:47] not to preemptively use it. So
[5:14:56] you said I'm giving you an
[5:15:01] >> I would give you 3 examples
[5:15:02] of chapter 4 and why you need
[5:15:04] this administrative approval
[5:15:05] process, one property was
[5:15:08] included in the result. 2
[5:15:09] properties were already zoned
[5:15:13] for this before the rezone
[5:15:14] first one is apartment complex
[5:15:17] it's going in the middle of a
[5:15:18] residential area that's been
[5:15:18] rezoned are 3 right off the
[5:15:24] snow will. That snow you all
[5:15:26] know sandy capacity, she's got
[5:15:29] this project right behind her
[5:15:29] everything in chapter 4 that
[5:15:32] she wanted to use for
[5:15:33] protection. She's listening to
[5:15:34] loud jackhammers that got the
[5:15:35] land clear right up to her
[5:15:39] property. So something like
[5:15:40] that, and how it affects the
[5:15:42] neighbors there should have
[5:15:43] been different buffers things
[5:15:45] considered for that the next
[5:15:45] project is the big rv park
[5:15:47] going off a chamberlain right
[5:15:48] north the 75. Is kelly
[5:15:54] burrata. Has got concerns
[5:15:56] about dumping of the sewage
[5:15:57] that's going to be there and
[5:15:58] where the gas is it going to
[5:16:01] affect water chapter 4. I
[5:16:02] don't know if there's anything
[5:16:03] in there for her, but at least
[5:16:04] it should have been considered
[5:16:07] how that's going to affect the
[5:16:08] neighborhood and the 3rd one I
[5:16:15] forgot. For all there's 3rd
[5:16:16] one somewhere that is all
[5:16:17] about the one on sumpter the
[5:16:21] high-rise apartments, randy
[5:16:22] he's got now, he's got
[5:16:24] apartments going right behind
[5:16:25] him parking lights that are
[5:16:27] going to affect this area. So
[5:16:28] those are my examples, thanks.
[5:16:37] Thank you. Angela park.
[5:16:38] >> strongly support agenda
[5:16:41] item 26 dash 1, 0, 2, 2, and
[5:16:42] her and minister within the
[5:16:43] unified land development code
[5:16:44] development decisions can have
[5:16:45] lasting consequences for
[5:16:45] surrounding homeowners
[5:16:46] neighbors, traffic drainage
[5:16:48] utilities, water resources,
[5:16:49] environmental quality and that
[5:16:52] overall character of port,
[5:16:53] those decisions should not
[5:16:56] become effectively automatic
[5:16:57] simply because ministry
[5:16:59] deadline passes mistreated
[5:17:00] them a is important. But
[5:17:01] officials say should never
[5:17:02] come at the expense of
[5:17:03] accountability for the
[5:17:04] public's opportunity to be
[5:17:07] heard the city's uldc states
[5:17:08] it is its purpose is to
[5:17:09] promote public health safety
[5:17:09] and welfare implement the
[5:17:13] comprehensive plan facilitate
[5:17:15] quarterly growth and
[5:17:16] development presidents deserve
[5:17:17] confidence that significant
[5:17:18] development applications
[5:17:19] received meeting for and that
[5:17:19] decision makers remain
[5:17:20] accountable for the
[5:17:24] consequences of those
[5:17:26] decisions. For will cannot can
[5:17:26] undermine confidence and
[5:17:27] potentially allow projects to
[5:17:29] proceed without adequate
[5:17:30] consideration. Impacts that
[5:17:30] MAY not be apparent from a
[5:17:34] checklist or technical of the
[5:17:35] law. I urge the commission to
[5:17:35] reverse the administrative
[5:17:36] approval process require
[5:17:38] permanent action when
[5:17:40] appropriate, particularly for
[5:17:42] applications with potentially
[5:17:43] significant impacts staff
[5:17:45] should have ability to
[5:17:46] thoroughly evaluate
[5:17:46] applications and the public
[5:17:48] should have meaningful notice
[5:17:49] opportunity participate
[5:17:50] decisions could materially
[5:17:55] their community north port is.
[5:17:56] Experiencing tremendous growth
[5:17:56] we should not weaken oversight
[5:17:59] in the name of speed. Please
[5:17:59] support 26 dash 1, 0, 2, 2,
[5:18:03] restore accountability
[5:18:04] transparency and responsible
[5:18:08] development process. So or
[5:18:10] floyd's I fully support the
[5:18:11] return of administrative
[5:18:12] approval to be returned to the
[5:18:14] elected representatives of the
[5:18:14] city the city commission the
[5:18:15] people in the commissioners
[5:18:16] must take our city back.
[5:18:21] David restoration commissioner
[5:18:22] site and proposals must be
[5:18:22] restore what we're left
[5:18:27] with this. Commission of devon
[5:18:29] out thank you for having a
[5:18:30] discussion on administrative
[5:18:30] approval processes in case
[5:18:33] anyone is wondering
[5:18:34] administrative approval is
[5:18:35] granting and 32 the uldc
[5:18:35] administrator or specific
[5:18:39] parts of the uldc the sec has
[5:18:40] designated the director of
[5:18:40] development services for there
[5:18:43] doesn't need to grab those
[5:18:44] approvals. No input from
[5:18:46] commissioner citizens, no
[5:18:47] public checks and balances as
[5:18:48] a reminder staff does not
[5:18:50] answer citizens or to the
[5:18:52] commission. There are various
[5:18:53] sections riddled throughout
[5:18:54] the uldc that allowed ministry
[5:18:55] of approval impasse far more
[5:18:57] than approving project the
[5:18:58] development master concept
[5:18:58] plan is a good place to start
[5:19:02] the mending the u n a another
[5:19:04] area is the section granting
[5:19:05] the hearing officer to approve
[5:19:06] major variances and minor
[5:19:09] variances are approved
[5:19:10] administratively. There to be
[5:19:11] see that allow ministry
[5:19:14] approval to various flavors
[5:19:14] then there's neighborhood
[5:19:15] meetings, yes there but
[5:19:17] nothing happened after that no
[5:19:18] commission involvement, the
[5:19:19] citizens have no place to turn
[5:19:22] to have their voice heard did
[5:19:24] you know project is
[5:19:25] administratively approved
[5:19:26] there's no mechanism to notify
[5:19:28] commission commissioners kept
[5:19:29] in the which means the
[5:19:30] citizens are kept in the dark
[5:19:32] this should be amended I know
[5:19:34] subject like the back of my
[5:19:35] hand I won't bore you with the
[5:19:36] citing various sections of the
[5:19:37] code that permit
[5:19:38] administrative approval,
[5:19:39] however, I'm extending an
[5:19:40] invitation to share my
[5:19:41] knowledge with and have a
[5:19:44] conversation for retail
[5:19:45] hearing from you or anyone who
[5:19:47] wants to learn more on the
[5:19:49] subject commissioners please
[5:19:50] restore commissioner oversight
[5:19:51] please restore there's checks
[5:19:52] and balances please restore
[5:19:53] transparency and the ability
[5:19:53] for commission as citizens to
[5:19:54] purchase.
[5:20:02] Processes before de mer
[5:20:03] commissioners I'm writing as
[5:20:04] PRESIDENT To express my strong
[5:20:05] support for agenda item 26
[5:20:10] dash 1, 0, 2, 2, hi have
[5:20:11] marshaled developments kerry
[5:20:12] multi decade consequences from
[5:20:13] all our particularly regarding
[5:20:14] our water sources and traffic
[5:20:15] infrastructure. The ministry
[5:20:19] of staff signs all so started
[5:20:23] needed for routine technical
[5:20:24] approvals they are not
[5:20:25] equipped to evaluate macro
[5:20:25] level community impacts
[5:20:26] allowing high impact projects
[5:20:28] to public hearings for best
[5:20:29] presidents for raising
[5:20:33] critical questions about water
[5:20:34] conservation. The key strain
[5:20:35] that large industrial utility
[5:20:37] demands placed on our local
[5:20:39] water supply for traffic
[5:20:40] infrastructure increased
[5:20:41] congestion road where and
[5:20:42] safety concerns along major
[5:20:43] corridors like I 75 veterans
[5:20:46] highway hillsboro boulevard
[5:20:48] project just completed toledo
[5:20:49] blade boulevard and us 41
[5:20:51] decisions that impact our
[5:20:53] local water security and daily
[5:20:55] traffic along reversing the
[5:20:56] administrative approval
[5:20:58] process guarantees public
[5:20:58] notice in the short final
[5:21:01] remains with elected leaders
[5:21:02] accountable. So a community
[5:21:02] please vote. Yes on this
[5:21:03] agenda item since all
[5:21:07] happened. Elizabeth last my
[5:21:09] name is last all I thank you
[5:21:13] for your regarding 26 dash 1,
[5:21:15] 0, 2, I strongly object to on
[5:21:16] elected staff or city manager
[5:21:16] approving items without full
[5:21:17] disclosure and information
[5:21:19] presented to our
[5:21:20] commissioners. Voted in the
[5:21:21] mission and not the staff of
[5:21:22] the city manager
[5:21:23] administrative staff can
[5:21:25] source facts but it needs to
[5:21:26] biased I'm hopeful that the
[5:21:27] commissioners him we have a
[5:21:30] lot think long and hard about
[5:21:31] where opinion possible facts
[5:21:35] are coming from and what they.
[5:21:36] And that not like the dog pony
[5:21:36] show we percent it from the
[5:21:39] experts on data centers. The
[5:21:41] first question should always
[5:21:42] be is it really in the best
[5:21:43] interest of our residents and
[5:21:43] our city everyone has a
[5:21:44] background in life history
[5:21:48] before being employed could it
[5:21:49] be higher some productive
[5:21:50] people in our city management
[5:21:50] to screen the thoughts and
[5:21:52] ideas in favor of building a
[5:21:53] data center. I understand that
[5:21:54] we want more commercial and
[5:21:57] that we need more revenue
[5:21:58] maybe a nice designated area
[5:22:00] for park like many downtown
[5:22:01] development area where
[5:22:01] families gather with
[5:22:02] restaurants shopping bakery
[5:22:06] post-op ixic cetera the seems
[5:22:08] to have a lot of open land
[5:22:08] beside the trail. I believe
[5:22:09] the trail will be used more if
[5:22:10] it had some amenities,
[5:22:14] especially restrooms I was
[5:22:15] taking talking to 3 months
[5:22:16] pushing stores that have to
[5:22:17] cut their lives short because
[5:22:20] restroom. She is he out there
[5:22:22] and the closest porta potty is
[5:22:24] 2.5 miles from the trailhead
[5:22:25] women are comfortable
[5:22:25] squatting in the woods to area
[5:22:29] seems perfect to build a since
[5:22:30] the trail and the land is
[5:22:32] already there MAY be good bike
[5:22:34] trail and loveland ohio, it's
[5:22:36] 70 miles long connects many
[5:22:37] small towns with restaurants
[5:22:39] and amenities along the way it
[5:22:39] is extremely popular all
[5:22:40] attended the legacy trails are
[5:22:45] there at some amenities.
[5:22:46] >> mayor commissioners a port
[5:22:47] commissioner steps request to
[5:22:48] reconsider our first portions
[5:22:49] of the administrative approval
[5:22:52] process within the ld safe.
[5:22:54] The eu rely has been in my
[5:22:55] opinion and more importantly
[5:22:58] shifted too much consequential
[5:22:58] decision-making away from
[5:22:59] public bodies and elected
[5:23:00] officials and then to an
[5:23:02] administrative process with
[5:23:02] insufficient oversight and
[5:23:03] accountability administrative
[5:23:04] approval makes sense for
[5:23:07] routine minister all matters
[5:23:09] where an applicant either need
[5:23:10] to clearly establish
[5:23:10] requirements not but when a
[5:23:12] decision requires
[5:23:12] interpretation or discretion
[5:23:15] effects surrounding
[5:23:16] neighborhoods. Impacts
[5:23:18] infrastructure influences, the
[5:23:19] future character a city it
[5:23:21] deserves public scrutiny
[5:23:21] efficiency is important but
[5:23:22] efficiency can not become an
[5:23:24] excuse for nathan
[5:23:25] transparency. PRESIDENT Elect
[5:23:26] commissioners to make
[5:23:28] difficult decisions about the
[5:23:29] direction of north port we do
[5:23:30] not elect staff that is not
[5:23:31] criticism of staff does have a
[5:23:32] representative government is
[5:23:35] supposed to work consequential
[5:23:37] development decisions can be
[5:23:38] approved administratively
[5:23:39] residents have MAY not know
[5:23:41] what is happening until I
[5:23:42] discussed decision has already
[5:23:43] been made at that point public
[5:23:43] participation becomes reaction
[5:23:47] rather representation. Parties
[5:23:47] predictable development goals
[5:23:50] and developers deserve
[5:23:51] certainty. But predictability
[5:23:53] accountability are not
[5:23:54] mutually exclusive. The
[5:23:55] commission should drop their
[5:23:55] live routine decision based on
[5:23:59] objective standards can remain
[5:24:01] administrative decisions about
[5:24:03] significant discretion
[5:24:04] interpretation or community
[5:24:04] and actually receive
[5:24:06] transparent public review and
[5:24:08] appropriate oversight you have
[5:24:09] station sponsored lee it
[5:24:12] should not become a mechanism
[5:24:13] insulting insulating
[5:24:14] consequential land-use
[5:24:15] decisions from the residents
[5:24:16] who must live with them my
[5:24:17] sport action today to restore
[5:24:20] that accountability. Just us
[5:24:21] poor city commission resort
[5:24:25] reversing staff approval on
[5:24:26] items this line responsibility
[5:24:28] has already shown its ugly
[5:24:28] head. Us commissioners have
[5:24:29] lost all ability to know
[5:24:30] what's going because staff
[5:24:32] come back other way around
[5:24:34] you. It was sad to hear
[5:24:35] commissioner like this stance
[5:24:36] in previous meeting on the
[5:24:36] subject hopefully she will
[5:24:37] remember that citizens elected
[5:24:38] her to have some oversight
[5:24:43] ability and not just to be to
[5:24:44] city staff christina's I
[5:24:47] support the reverse off strait
[5:24:48] approval process within the
[5:24:50] uvalde say with the current
[5:24:51] topic, a paper scaled centers
[5:24:51] there have been instances
[5:24:52] across the nation where they
[5:24:54] have about a previous
[5:24:56] administrative approval
[5:24:56] process without oversight by
[5:24:58] the commission which is
[5:25:00] incredibly alarming a prime
[5:25:02] example of certain previous
[5:25:02] commissioner warned why it was
[5:25:03] a terrible idea to begin with
[5:25:05] and have voted against it. I
[5:25:06] appreciate commissioner starts
[5:25:08] for adding this item after
[5:25:10] realizing. That's better late
[5:25:11] than never to spy actually
[5:25:12] voting in favor of previously
[5:25:14] perhaps administrative
[5:25:15] approval still we utilize, but
[5:25:18] there must be clearly defined
[5:25:21] specials that limit what can
[5:25:24] this alternative alternate or
[5:25:25] even I'm just an average
[5:25:27] citizen, I'm not familiar with
[5:25:27] the law however, when I
[5:25:29] learned that our north port
[5:25:30] commissioner secretly
[5:25:32] reside north port and fletcher
[5:25:32] sign a non-disclosure
[5:25:34] agreement to keep residents in
[5:25:34] the dark about future plans
[5:25:35] for north for rest and I
[5:25:38] realized that of our past
[5:25:40] commissioners. How about that
[5:25:42] have a mess we're with a
[5:25:43] potential data center is a
[5:25:44] direct result of your
[5:25:44] administrative approval
[5:25:45] process and it needs to be
[5:25:51] reversed. Look I support that
[5:25:52] we're seeing a modest rate of
[5:25:53] approval process major
[5:25:54] development decisions should
[5:25:55] not be having behind the
[5:25:56] scenes without residents
[5:25:57] having a chance to know what
[5:25:58] is being proposed and speak up
[5:26:00] about it if you project can
[5:26:02] significantly impact our
[5:26:03] neighborhoods traffic
[5:26:03] infrastructure or quality of
[5:26:06] life should go through a
[5:26:06] public process. North korea
[5:26:07] has grown too quickly to be
[5:26:10] removing public oversight from
[5:26:10] development decisions.
[5:26:11] Residents deserve transparency
[5:26:16] and a voice for these projects
[5:26:17] this needs to be reversed a
[5:26:18] staff member should not be
[5:26:21] allowed provide to patients.
[5:26:24] Tell us we must a highly
[5:26:27] critical item 26 dash 1, 0, 2,
[5:26:28] 2 regarding the discussion to
[5:26:29] resourced reversed
[5:26:29] administrative approval
[5:26:32] process within our uldc
[5:26:34] russell sounds like it could
[5:26:34] bring back public hearing
[5:26:35] simply having a discussion on
[5:26:36] this item exposes a deeply
[5:26:39] flawed system. The fact that
[5:26:40] the city a lot of ministry of
[5:26:40] approval in the first place is
[5:26:43] a direct insult to the
[5:26:44] community magistrate of
[5:26:46] approval access a massive
[5:26:48] loophole shifting the power to
[5:26:49] greenlight high impact
[5:26:49] developments out of the public
[5:26:53] and handling it directly to on
[5:26:56] a lot of city neighborhood
[5:26:58] offering industrial commercial
[5:27:00] projects like predatory tech
[5:27:02] development to public scrutiny
[5:27:03] commission any neighborhood
[5:27:04] notification we cannot settle
[5:27:05] for open-ended discussion or a
[5:27:08] watered down compromise that
[5:27:09] now it reversal or a temporary
[5:27:12] fix isn't enough protect our
[5:27:13] city's future. Our community
[5:27:13] to mask absolutely
[5:27:16] accountability every single
[5:27:18] land-use choice. Our
[5:27:19] neighborhoods threatens our
[5:27:21] natural resources are creates
[5:27:21] 24 7 noise and utility for
[5:27:24] must face a mandatory public
[5:27:26] hearing elected leaders must
[5:27:28] have to PRESIDENT The eye high
[5:27:31] city staff purples but the
[5:27:31] city commission that we see
[5:27:32] through administrative proper
[5:27:38] staffing. We demand for
[5:27:39] permanent reversal of all
[5:27:39] MISTER Ensure a complete
[5:27:40] public transparency.
[5:27:45] Demartino good morning again
[5:27:47] commissioners my name is sam,
[5:27:48] I'm support of this reversal
[5:27:49] administrative approval rights
[5:27:50] that has been given to the
[5:27:51] city manager these types of
[5:27:51] decisions should be made as a
[5:27:55] group. Thank you. Stacey
[5:27:58] mentioned we need ever process
[5:27:59] within the unified land
[5:28:02] development code is that it is
[5:28:02] on acceptable have random
[5:28:03] administrative employees
[5:28:04] making major decisions that
[5:28:04] can seriously affect the
[5:28:07] last north port resident, the
[5:28:08] citizens let the commissioners
[5:28:09] to represent them and the
[5:28:11] commissioner should approve it
[5:28:11] actually see requests
[5:28:18] accordingly and that's all I
[5:28:22] >> request a motion to make it
[5:28:23] go.
[5:28:23] >> I make a motion direct
[5:28:24] staff to draft an ordinance to
[5:28:30] bring back. To bring all
[5:28:32] commercial retail and
[5:28:34] multifamily projects before
[5:28:35] the city commission monthly
[5:28:36] basis prior any administrative
[5:28:40] from pro bowl.
[5:28:41] >> motion on the floor made
[5:28:43] commissioner would you like to
[5:28:53] read it back please. Also in
[5:28:54] >> direct the city manager to
[5:28:58] draft ordinance to bring. All
[5:29:00] commercial retail and
[5:29:01] multifamily projects to
[5:29:02] commission on a monthly basis
[5:29:02] prior to any administrative
[5:29:05] approval.
[5:29:07] >> and that motion was paying
[5:29:08] my commissioner stoke seconded
[5:29:09] by commissioner deval any
[5:29:27] discussion. Not. Let's and
[5:29:30] that passes 4 with vice mayor
[5:29:36] dissenting vice reason you.
[5:29:37] >> to file a public comment
[5:29:37] city clerk.
[5:29:50] >> I again that's the read my
[5:29:56] handwriting.
[5:29:58] >> just one of the state these
[5:29:58] last couple weeks that a lot
[5:30:03] lot of public comment come up.
[5:30:04] And make very educated and
[5:30:04] informative comments and I
[5:30:07] just wanted to speak on that
[5:30:11] because public comment why we
[5:30:11] do it. We don't do it because
[5:30:14] we have nothing else better to
[5:30:15] some of us have health issues
[5:30:16] that we're dealing with but we
[5:30:16] make it here because we care
[5:30:19] about the city. We've been
[5:30:20] called haters we've been
[5:30:23] called the vocal minority for
[5:30:25] trying to speak up because
[5:30:26] that's the other side of the
[5:30:26] coin there's one side there's
[5:30:31] another side. So. We're just
[5:30:34] not speaking to here and still
[5:30:34] speaks we've spoken on
[5:30:35] projects that affect their
[5:30:36] health our health safety
[5:30:40] welfare and our way of life.
[5:30:41] You know we've been here on
[5:30:43] the toledo 3.20 project will
[5:30:44] be a residence that got
[5:30:47] together and got the
[5:30:48] pocatello. The residents that
[5:30:50] were on the can bill for
[5:30:51] apartments coming there what
[5:30:53] haven and of course
[5:30:53] warm mineral springs a lot of
[5:30:57] residents came out for that.
[5:30:59] So I've already giving you the
[5:31:00] cracked flows downstream
[5:31:01] speech I've already given you
[5:31:03] the compromise speech and I've
[5:31:04] already given the work
[5:31:04] together speech so now it's
[5:31:05] time to listen to the
[5:31:06] residents and now working.
[5:31:08] Yeah susan thank you. Thank
[5:31:17] you.
[5:31:18] >> my name is samuel chirping
[5:31:19] and this is dedicated to every
[5:31:19] single resident the state of
[5:31:25] florida. Everyone. When our
[5:31:26] writer stand at the podium
[5:31:27] people look at me and asked
[5:31:29] her is this guy where is the
[5:31:34] what angle. Assume I represent
[5:31:35] a paid organization or hidden
[5:31:36] political agenda. They are
[5:31:40] around I'm just one guy, I'm a
[5:31:42] sick guy who is standing here
[5:31:43] today because I live the
[5:31:45] absolute nightmare of
[5:31:46] florida's water crisis and I'm
[5:31:49] still living at right now. And
[5:31:52] the summer of 2018 the water
[5:31:53] in the state poison my home, I
[5:31:54] felt so violently ill that my
[5:31:55] body deteriorated to a
[5:31:58] skeletal 90 pounds. I was
[5:32:00] paralyzed on my right side, my
[5:32:02] arm and leg completely useless
[5:32:05] shaking like I had
[5:32:06] parkinson's. Well I was
[5:32:06] trapped in my own felling body
[5:32:09] a wave of destruction hit my
[5:32:10] family. My mother-in-law
[5:32:12] wilson's pass suffered a
[5:32:13] massive stroke, losing the
[5:32:15] lining of her intestines
[5:32:16] people are being consumed by
[5:32:20] alzheimer's and dementia. I
[5:32:22] watch my spouse up in icu
[5:32:24] during separate times once
[5:32:26] because I thought it was brain
[5:32:27] cancer and another time
[5:32:28] because of fluid retention was
[5:32:29] so severe the body blew up
[5:32:29] like a blur and cutting off
[5:32:33] the circulation. And the
[5:32:35] middle of all of that has my
[5:32:37] dog started dying
[5:32:38] consecutively week after week
[5:32:39] one would die in 2 weeks later
[5:32:42] the next one would collapse. I
[5:32:45] for help my then county
[5:32:46] commissioner in charlotte
[5:32:47] county chris constance
[5:32:48] completely stonewalled he
[5:32:52] refused to work at me. Talk to
[5:32:54] me knowledge my separate. My
[5:32:58] family existed. It was slap in
[5:33:01] the face, but the circle
[5:33:03] always turns this year the
[5:33:05] spelling to him out of office
[5:33:06] and replaced it with john
[5:33:08] fleming and I want every
[5:33:09] commissioner in the state to
[5:33:11] hear that name and learn the
[5:33:12] lesson with the citizen comes
[5:33:13] to crying out for their like
[5:33:16] you them in the eye and you're
[5:33:17] listen because a public record
[5:33:18] is part of it and the voters
[5:33:19] will eventually clear the
[5:33:23] room. To day I carry
[5:33:24] department damage that
[5:33:27] poisoning caused me every
[5:33:29] single day the moment, I knew
[5:33:29] the middle I face severe
[5:33:30] sickness and take specialize
[5:33:32] medication. So I haven't eaten
[5:33:34] in 6 hours. Just so I could
[5:33:40] get to it I spent most of my
[5:33:40] days confined to a chair, my
[5:33:41] body is broken, but they do
[5:33:45] better to my still works when
[5:33:46] you reverse a second chair all
[5:33:49] day use your brain to to
[5:33:49] research and the track is
[5:33:53] what's happening to our state
[5:33:56] I was doubt, also from aging
[5:33:57] infrastructure, spend copious
[5:33:59] amounts of toxic herbicides
[5:34:00] and completely fell to test
[5:34:03] water for heavy metals and p f
[5:34:06] a s and right now they want to
[5:34:10] quietly while killer mike the
[5:34:11] reactors a resource to firing
[5:34:12] hyperscale data center
[5:34:12] starting to drain millions of
[5:34:13] gallons from opera for every
[5:34:16] single day. I don't speak for
[5:34:20] has been from the chair.
[5:34:20] >> you have have my
[5:34:23] condolences sir. I'm still a
[5:34:27] lot things
[5:34:29] >> good morning commissioners
[5:34:32] we the citizens of and that
[5:34:33] MAY be addressed and that
[5:34:34] meant a permanent wellfield
[5:34:35] protection ordinances right
[5:34:36] directly into our local land
[5:34:37] development regulations on the
[5:34:39] florida senate bill 4, 8, 4,
[5:34:40] we're and then the strait of
[5:34:44] delays 12 months study task
[5:34:45] force are legally risky
[5:34:46] moratoriums that trigger
[5:34:46] multimillion-dollar developer
[5:34:47] lawsuits under the judicial
[5:34:50] pending ordinance top and you
[5:34:53] have the how to fish ali
[5:34:54] announce you're drafting these
[5:34:54] water protections in sully
[5:34:55] freezing any know hyperscale
[5:34:56] data center applications from
[5:35:00] sneaking into our borders. I'm
[5:35:01] waiting to demand absolute
[5:35:02] accountability transparency
[5:35:03] and community protection
[5:35:07] regarding items, 2610 5126
[5:35:10] 1023 2610 22 together items
[5:35:12] represent a critical
[5:35:13] crossroads for future north
[5:35:14] part we cannot allow interests
[5:35:14] and back mechanisms to dictate
[5:35:17] our city's land use policies
[5:35:19] regarding item 2610 51, we
[5:35:20] must enact strictest possible
[5:35:22] land-use regulations
[5:35:24] concerning geisinger's our
[5:35:25] current uldc completely that's
[5:35:26] baseline protections against
[5:35:28] these high impact industrial
[5:35:30] facilities. Cannot pass lean
[5:35:31] and regulations that are north
[5:35:33] port into a bucket regulatory
[5:35:34] have least resistance for
[5:35:37] predatory tech development.
[5:35:40] Any updates the uldc must
[5:35:40] legally and a massive setbacks
[5:35:44] from residential zones strict
[5:35:46] low-frequency noise caps
[5:35:48] resource usage limits to
[5:35:48] protect are great and total
[5:35:50] tax accountability, however,
[5:35:51] protective zoning rules means
[5:35:52] nothing if developments are
[5:35:54] negotiated in the shadows this
[5:35:59] brings me to item 2610 23,
[5:35:59] simply establishing a process
[5:36:01] to notify the commission of
[5:36:03] non-disclosure agreements is a
[5:36:05] dangerously we compromise
[5:36:05] nearly notifying leadership
[5:36:07] that a secret deal excess does
[5:36:08] nothing to stop the secrecy
[5:36:10] itself. We demand a total ban
[5:36:11] monday between public
[5:36:12] officials and private
[5:36:13] developers local government
[5:36:14] must operate in the finally
[5:36:18] regarding I don't 2610 22 the
[5:36:19] city must partly reversed
[5:36:20] administrative approval
[5:36:23] process for major projects
[5:36:23] minister approval as a
[5:36:24] loophole that's on elected
[5:36:25] city staff rubber stamp
[5:36:26] neighborhood offering
[5:36:26] developments without public
[5:36:31] hearings or a commission we
[5:36:33] see how these pieces fit
[5:36:34] together corporations use and
[5:36:35] the a's to hide their plans
[5:36:37] for last week you have the sea
[5:36:38] regulations to protect their
[5:36:40] profits and use administrative
[5:36:41] approvals to bypass public
[5:36:42] scrutiny there's a commission
[5:36:44] to reject corporate secrecy
[5:36:44] fully eliminate administrative
[5:36:48] proffer stamping and codify
[5:36:49] protections stacey mention
[5:36:50] good morning commissioners, my
[5:36:51] name is stacy mention I'm
[5:36:52] writing today with the direct
[5:36:55] mandate. We demand that media
[5:36:56] drafting and enactment of
[5:36:57] permanent wellfield protection
[5:36:59] ordinances friend directly
[5:37:00] into land development
[5:37:02] regulations on florida senate
[5:37:03] bill 4, 8, 4, we're with the
[5:37:05] ministry delays twellman study
[5:37:05] task force are legally risky
[5:37:06] moratorium section
[5:37:09] multimillion-dollar developer
[5:37:10] lawsuit. I mean is that it do
[5:37:12] pending ordinance doctor and
[5:37:12] you have the legal authority
[5:37:14] right now to officially
[5:37:15] announce you're tracking these
[5:37:16] water protections and sully
[5:37:17] freezing any new hyperscale
[5:37:17] data center applications from
[5:37:20] sneaking into our borders. The
[5:37:21] political line in the sand, a
[5:37:22] strong today in the community
[5:37:23] is tracking exactly each of
[5:37:25] your stance. Commissioner
[5:37:27] start if you want to earn your
[5:37:28] re-election he will step up
[5:37:29] today do what is best for port
[5:37:29] resident to make that official
[5:37:30] mission to review and
[5:37:33] implement these wellfield
[5:37:34] protections. Rex sign on to
[5:37:35] this ordinance immediately and
[5:37:37] stop using committee delays to
[5:37:40] protect family interests.
[5:37:41] Protecting our offer is in the
[5:37:42] best interest of north port
[5:37:43] which will be the best
[5:37:46] interest for or just campaign
[5:37:48] as well. Commissioner patch I
[5:37:49] have new to keep that
[5:37:51] outstanding following
[5:37:52] community trust you have built
[5:37:53] continue to lead the charge
[5:37:55] and fully support this think a
[5:37:56] framework on the floor
[5:37:58] commissioned about if you want
[5:37:59] to fall on the correct side of
[5:37:59] history. You must sign onto
[5:38:00] these welfare protections
[5:38:06] drinking. First facing an
[5:38:06] industrial extinction about
[5:38:08] stop playing defense protect
[5:38:09] our about shields use ask
[5:38:10] protect florida's water right
[5:38:14] now what's on there.
[5:38:15] >> move on to commissioner
[5:38:15] communications commissioner
[5:38:23] duval. Commissioner stokes us
[5:38:24] and 2 vice mayor and also
[5:38:26] thank commissioner petro for
[5:38:31] city manager. Mayor city
[5:38:38] nothing can city clerk. I all
[5:38:38] righty then assess special
[5:38:53] time of for journalists.