1 00:00:08,030 --> 00:00:34,050 Good evening, welcome to the North Rutherland Hills City Council work session. It is 5 p.m. and I will call, excuse me, the mending November 10th, 2025, city council work session to order, quorum of the city council is present. The meeting has been duly posted in accordance with the Texas meeting's act of the Texas government code. Adam's listed for discussion on the work session, agenda, provide an opportunity for the city council to discuss the items and receive information from the staff. 2 00:00:34,050 --> 00:00:39,730 Yeah, City Council will not take action on any of the item listed for discussion during the work session. 3 00:00:39,910 --> 00:00:45,130 Any members of the public wishing to address the Council regarding items listed on the work session. 4 00:00:45,190 --> 00:00:49,050 Agenda may do so during the public comments portion of the regular meeting. 5 00:00:50,990 --> 00:00:58,730 The first item is to give the Council an opportunity to ask questions on items on a regular agenda that the Council has not had any clarification on it this time. 6 00:00:59,310 --> 00:00:59,630 I'll have any. 7 00:01:00,830 --> 00:01:00,930 Nope. 8 00:01:02,070 --> 00:01:03,430 Seeing none, move on. 9 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:07,770 and lead services, operational efficiency audit, Paulette Hartman. 10 00:01:09,650 --> 00:01:10,510 All right, thank you, Mayor. 11 00:01:10,910 --> 00:01:13,750 Actually, these next two will kind of be presented together. 12 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:18,030 I think we're going to do the fleet services audit first and then permitting. 13 00:01:18,570 --> 00:01:25,070 And then, so Aaron, baggerly, with matrix is here and he'll be doing both presentations. 14 00:01:25,950 --> 00:01:28,790 Because Catherine, I don't know how to say big no. 15 00:01:28,790 --> 00:01:36,270 You know, the venue who was the lead on our fleet services study, she was not able to get 16 00:01:36,270 --> 00:01:36,650 here. 17 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:37,930 Her flights were canceled. 18 00:01:39,390 --> 00:01:41,010 Do the government shut down. 19 00:01:41,710 --> 00:01:47,030 So Erin will be covering all of these and Erin, if you want to make your way to the podium, 20 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:53,970 this is a, these are the studies that the council had approved in this, or the previous fiscal 21 00:01:53,970 --> 00:01:54,650 years budget. 22 00:01:54,650 --> 00:02:03,430 but they were awarded April 14th, 2025 and so Matrix has completed both of these final 23 00:02:03,430 --> 00:02:09,130 reports and so Aaron's going to give you all just a high level overview of some of their 24 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:14,130 recommendations and then you'll receive the report tonight so you can have it in detail. 25 00:02:14,690 --> 00:02:19,410 A lot of their recommendations are operational in nature so we'll be looking at those but 26 00:02:19,410 --> 00:02:25,570 I feel free to ask any questions of course following his presentation that you might have. 27 00:02:25,890 --> 00:02:27,410 Aaron, go ahead. 28 00:02:27,890 --> 00:02:28,590 Thank you, Ms. Hardman. 29 00:02:28,970 --> 00:02:30,630 Aaron Bagley, a major consulting group. 30 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:37,950 As Paula said, my colleague, our fleet practice lead, Kate Venio cannot make it here due to air traffic control shortages. 31 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:39,970 So she sends her regards. 32 00:02:40,270 --> 00:02:44,370 So I will present on both the fleet study and the permitting efficiency audits. 33 00:02:44,370 --> 00:02:46,150 and we'll start with the Fleet Study, 34 00:02:46,690 --> 00:02:48,850 and certainly be available for any questions. 35 00:02:49,370 --> 00:02:51,510 You have on both studies as part of this. 36 00:02:52,450 --> 00:02:55,770 And as you recall, these are operational efficiency studies 37 00:02:55,770 --> 00:02:57,090 where folks are on the Fleet Audit 38 00:02:57,090 --> 00:03:00,410 and the Permitting Study so far. 39 00:03:00,750 --> 00:03:05,250 So just a quick overview of really what the goals 40 00:03:05,250 --> 00:03:07,550 of the studies were, is really to optimize processes 41 00:03:07,550 --> 00:03:10,150 and approach, and that was both internal processes, 42 00:03:10,350 --> 00:03:11,990 primarily on the Fleet side of things, 43 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:20,190 But on the permitting site also the external processes and how you engage with the public to develop the community and residents within North Richland Hills. 44 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:41,830 Also looking at improving both internal and external customer service components of this obviously fleet is an internal services fund where permitting is both internal and external facing with the public and also looking at enhancing operational efficiencies are the three broad strokes that really focus on as part of these two studies and engagements. 45 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:47,890 As we mentioned, Fleet Services study looking at your internal fleet services as a recent 46 00:03:47,890 --> 00:03:54,390 transition to the public worst department, some best practices and benchmarking, sorry, 47 00:03:54,590 --> 00:03:58,230 I'm sure I'm going to speak today, part of those services also looking at acquisition, 48 00:03:58,550 --> 00:04:01,790 replacement, maintenance, approaches, technology, utilization, et cetera. 49 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:07,210 On the permitting side of things, current state, process, diagramming, we did have some external 50 00:04:07,210 --> 00:04:12,110 customer survey and some focus group conversations, focus groups conversations were a little bit 51 00:04:12,110 --> 00:04:17,030 lighter than the customer service feedback. We did invest practices in comparative assessment 52 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:21,610 and then looked at your technology processes, customer service and operations and thirdly, 53 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:25,630 we're also doing the information technology efficiency audit, which was started a little 54 00:04:25,630 --> 00:04:33,370 bit later. So transitioning the focus on the fleet service is operational audit component 55 00:04:33,370 --> 00:04:38,210 of this. This is our fleet team. We had separate teams that worked on the fleet team. 56 00:04:38,350 --> 00:04:42,210 Catherine, if you know, leads our fleet practice over 35 years of experience. 57 00:04:42,370 --> 00:04:47,190 She's supplemented by Ruth Alson, who was a former fleet manager in City of Cincinnati for 58 00:04:47,190 --> 00:04:50,550 about 30 years and then David Branch is part of our team as well. 59 00:04:50,690 --> 00:04:53,810 This is our dedicated fleet team and this is what they primarily focused on. 60 00:04:54,170 --> 00:04:58,410 So a separate team for the fleet component and the permitting team because I led the permitting 61 00:04:58,410 --> 00:04:59,250 side of the study. 62 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:29,080 And so really just an overview of the fleet services study is an comprehensive operational efficiency study of your fleet services looking at the governance, your procurement practices, utilization, fleet utilization, equipment and asset utilization, your maintenance practices, your maintenance approach, and technology, organizational structure needs, and also looking deep dive into some of your policies that you have governing your fleet operations for this. So the study really focused on streamlining and optimating, 63 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,680 optimizing your fleet processes, improving customer services, and improving 64 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:40,660 efficiencies from operational perspective with that. This is really an overview of 65 00:05:40,660 --> 00:05:45,080 our task plan. We start every project all by doing due diligence and learning 66 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:51,020 about your organization. Our fleet team was here on site back in May for about 67 00:05:51,020 --> 00:05:55,740 three days meeting with the fleet main esteem meeting with city management to 68 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:57,040 to understand about the organization. 69 00:05:57,300 --> 00:06:00,700 We did extensive data collection and analysis with this 70 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:02,500 and developed a current state profile 71 00:06:02,980 --> 00:06:04,700 of the fleet operations for the city. 72 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:06,600 We compared the fleet operations 73 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,840 to industry best practice 74 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:10,760 and this is through the North American Fleet Association 75 00:06:11,140 --> 00:06:12,840 and the American Public Works Association. 76 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,740 Both of those have a very strong 77 00:06:14,740 --> 00:06:17,480 and robust set of best management practices 78 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,000 for the industry with that. 79 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,240 As I mentioned earlier, we also did a site visit back in May. 80 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:25,120 I interviewed a lot of the staff within the fleet maintenance 81 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,840 team, towards your facilities, look how they impacted your operations. 82 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:35,700 Both at the fire fleet maintenance shop, but also the shop across the street that services 83 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:37,560 are rest of the city organization. 84 00:06:38,140 --> 00:06:44,160 Also some benchmarking, comparison to award-winning organizations through best practices, but also 85 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,280 a couple of North Texas communities as well. 86 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:51,580 And we're here to present the final report and implementation plan to guide some recommendations. 87 00:06:51,580 --> 00:06:56,160 I think a total of 28 recommendations were made as part of the fleet study and many 88 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,440 of which have already implementation has started as part of this engagement. 89 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:05,500 As some of the key findings that our team found was to move to public works as viewed as 90 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:08,320 a positive by staff and their customers. 91 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,220 There's been a different approach to providing these services and some improvement with this. 92 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:18,840 The availability of data to really guide some of the future decision making is lacking. 93 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,400 There's a lack of historic data and some data points there that could be very beneficial 94 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:29,260 to really proactively lead to the department, but also some policies that this city council 95 00:07:29,260 --> 00:07:30,100 could make with that. 96 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:34,040 There's also some opportunity for increased centralization between the fire and fleet 97 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,340 components of that to increase flexibility for staffing needs, but also maintain and provide 98 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:40,660 better levels of service. 99 00:07:42,260 --> 00:07:43,940 I really looking at your fleet. 100 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,320 We looked at your fleet inventory. 101 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,200 or you have 441 assets. 102 00:07:47,380 --> 00:07:49,640 That's not just fire trucks and police vehicles 103 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,880 and building inspectored vehicles. 104 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,860 You know, that includes dump trucks and public works 105 00:07:53,860 --> 00:07:56,980 and trailers and mobile units and dump trucks 106 00:07:56,980 --> 00:07:58,860 and tractors and lawn mowers. 107 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,220 Your average age is 8.7 years for all your fleet assets. 108 00:08:03,940 --> 00:08:05,280 A little bit higher than industry average. 109 00:08:06,220 --> 00:08:08,840 And so we'll talk about that a little bit more with that. 110 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:11,040 And you've got some technology systems in place 111 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,760 and you're actually testing some systems 112 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,380 that could be very impactful to efficiency of operations moving forward. 113 00:08:19,390 --> 00:08:27,970 We bucketed our recommendations into six buckets, governance, procurement, utilization, maintenance, staffing, and technology. 114 00:08:28,690 --> 00:08:31,690 These are the summary of some of the points I want to talk about here in the next few minutes. 115 00:08:31,930 --> 00:08:37,570 But these are the six buckets that we dropped the recommendations in and focused our analysis around. 116 00:08:37,570 --> 00:08:41,810 These are the key areas that we found to dig a little bit deeper and make, like I said, 117 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:46,610 28 recommendations for focusing on the governance side of things. 118 00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:52,190 This is really the administration of your fleet operations and the need to create a fleet 119 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:57,170 steering committee, having department representatives to really help guide fleet operations, to guide 120 00:08:57,170 --> 00:09:02,790 that replacement plan, to guide that utilization on components that you need to dive in to make 121 00:09:02,790 --> 00:09:07,110 sure that you're doing what you need to do, to be more proactive and have the end users 122 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:11,090 provide feedback back to the fleet team to say, hey, we're having these issues. 123 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:15,550 This committee's perfect, you know, for each department to have a central point of contact in their department, 124 00:09:15,870 --> 00:09:20,950 to go to and to feed that into the larger group to provide enhanced service and efficiencies, 125 00:09:20,950 --> 00:09:25,170 whether that's securing a new vehicles or maintaining the assets you've already purchased. 126 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:32,190 Also, annual conducting of internal customer surveys to get that feedback of what's going well, 127 00:09:32,190 --> 00:09:34,030 where there might be some opportunities for improvement. 128 00:09:34,030 --> 00:09:39,210 And then finally, there's opportunity to update several fleet policies around fleet policy 129 00:09:39,210 --> 00:09:44,190 manual, driver's handbook and a couple other areas that are teamed over and to really tighten 130 00:09:44,190 --> 00:09:49,510 up some of those standard operating procedures for consistency in how the fleet is governed 131 00:09:49,510 --> 00:09:50,930 and how the operations are governed. 132 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,620 On the procurement side, we do make the recommendation to develop a 10-year replacement plan. 133 00:09:57,940 --> 00:09:59,880 These are assets just like your personal vehicle. 134 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:27,380 Local, on that many of you probably drove to get here today, you know, so depreciating asset. When you have to buy new equipment, new vehicles, it is costly. So a 10 year replacement plan is industry norm for this to have that due diligence to say, hey, in three years, we need to get a fire apparatus. We need to replace one of our fire engines or we've got six patrol cars that are rolling off the line near end of life or we can maximize the return on selling those assets with that. 135 00:10:27,380 --> 00:10:32,920 So developing that tenure replacement plan is a critical strategy to really think about the finances 136 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:37,420 In place and where you need to go because we all know 137 00:10:37,420 --> 00:10:41,440 2020 there was a shortage of vehicles around. I'm sure it impacted your team as well 138 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,180 with that so you maybe 139 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,900 Didn't replace the minion 2020 but 21 22 so 140 00:10:46,900 --> 00:10:53,900 You've got some grouping of vehicles and those and you want to be proactive in providing the funding for your vehicles replacing at the 141 00:10:53,900 --> 00:10:59,480 the opportune time to get the best, the most money back out of some of these assets that 142 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:05,800 you have, and then to also be good stewards of the financial resources of the city. Also adopt 143 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,680 the policy of key for key replacement as well for your, your keys and how you do that and really 144 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:16,260 looking at your fleet and the opportune times to replace on these components. Part of that 145 00:11:16,260 --> 00:11:21,180 replacement plan utilization is, is important. There needs to be a utilization policy looking at 146 00:11:21,180 --> 00:11:27,840 those assets. Some assets like patrol vehicles, they're driven a lot more than some pool vehicles 147 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,120 that are for administrative staff or IT staff or maybe go into a conference or something 148 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,200 like that. There's much different utilization around that and you need to take an annual 149 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:41,840 look at your utilization of your assets to see, do we need to keep this asset? I would say 150 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,160 a low mileage dump truck is one thing. You're not going to replace a dump truck or get rid of 151 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:52,100 a dump truck because it's only driven 500 miles a year. But if you've got an asset that's 152 00:11:52,100 --> 00:11:56,980 a sedan that is only driven 500 miles in a year and over four years it's only driven 153 00:11:56,980 --> 00:12:01,620 2500 miles do you really need to keep that asset. And so that's where you need to do these 154 00:12:01,620 --> 00:12:06,240 annual utilization reviews to see which assets you need to keep on the books and maintain 155 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,900 and replace eventually in which ones might be not used as much and you might be able to turn 156 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:17,080 them over, or it might not be utilized in this, but if we transition this to Dan to a pick-up truck 157 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,780 then it might provide more functionality for that department. 158 00:12:23,850 --> 00:12:25,210 On the maintenance side of things, 159 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:30,470 there's policy and procedure related components here and force pre-trip inspections looking at 160 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:34,330 that to make sure that policy is in place. So you don't have an asset, it's got a flat tire and somebody 161 00:12:34,330 --> 00:12:38,690 drives five miles down the road and realize you have that. You want to have some consistency and 162 00:12:38,690 --> 00:12:42,250 enforcement of those inspections and policies around them. 163 00:12:42,670 --> 00:12:52,810 Another area that our team noticed was a backlog and really upfitting vehicles such as your patrol vehicles getting them fitted in-house. 164 00:12:53,370 --> 00:12:57,570 We do make some recommendations to minimize in-house upfitting so you don't have that backlog. 165 00:12:57,810 --> 00:13:04,650 So you don't have a new asset that is sitting to wait several weeks to be upfitted before it can go out on the road with that. 166 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:12,050 And then we also make the recommendation to centralize the fire and fleet maintenance teams into a single team that works more 167 00:13:12,050 --> 00:13:17,450 cohesively and collaborates together as part of that single operational unit. 168 00:13:19,150 --> 00:13:24,330 When it comes to the staffing levels, we did look at the, there's a pretty comprehensive analysis. 169 00:13:24,530 --> 00:13:29,630 We get to vehicle equivalency units based on the type of unit and the number of hours of maintenance that needs in the year 170 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:32,570 and start building this staffing model with this, 171 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:36,730 and we do make the recommendation to reallocate several 172 00:13:36,730 --> 00:13:38,530 of the positions to different classifications 173 00:13:38,530 --> 00:13:41,930 for a total of seven mechanics that you need 174 00:13:41,930 --> 00:13:44,310 to maintain the assets that you currently own 175 00:13:44,610 --> 00:13:46,790 and responsible for maintaining at this point, 176 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:49,370 and continue to encourage staff to receive training 177 00:13:49,370 --> 00:13:51,850 and certifications to continue to be a larger asset 178 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:54,530 to the city, but also for their professional growth 179 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:57,480 and development as well. 180 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,540 And technology, we do make a recommendation 181 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:05,720 to enhance the functionalities of your fleet management information system, the FMIS, 182 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:10,080 on that you have there some functionalities that are missing as part of that system, 183 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,040 and to work towards implementing some of those best practices out there. 184 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:16,540 To get some of that data we talked about that is missing earlier. 185 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:21,500 We also make a recommendation to implement telematics as part of this, 186 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:27,620 and I think there is a test scenario going on right now with a system or two out there about telematics. 187 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:32,440 IntelliMatics really gives you a lot of that data and details that the fleet team needs 188 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,980 to look at it, you know, how long are cars idling, you know, or staff maybe driving 189 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:42,580 too fast or going over to speed limit against policy, are they, cars vehicles being used 190 00:14:43,060 --> 00:14:47,480 in the way that they need to be used, you get to track a lot of that information about your 191 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:53,000 vehicle, the usage, the maintenance, and telematics even has alerts now when it says, hey, we're 192 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,300 past the old mile, the mileage to do the oil change and have that capability if we 193 00:14:58,300 --> 00:14:59,620 minus to get a report of that. 194 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,160 So they can ping the right department director and say, hey, we've got two vehicles that need 195 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,800 to have an oil change, or a PM, prevent a maintenance for them to bring it in. And also 196 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,540 create a reporting matrix, a dashboard with a lot of this information that we collected 197 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:16,860 from the new fleet management information system or the telematic systems. Integrated 198 00:15:16,860 --> 00:15:21,720 into that, both for fleet maintenance team itself, but also the department has to see some 199 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,300 of the information on fleet utilization and usage as part of that. 200 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,780 So there were 28 total 201 00:15:29,780 --> 00:15:34,000 recommendations that we made and for each of the recommendations you'll see in a report 202 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,500 there's implementation plan associated with these recommendations, timeline for implementation 203 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,240 and a general cost associated with this. 204 00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:48,840 And so we do provide this prioritization component in the report with some dates on it also understand 205 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,300 that the team has actually already started implementing several of these recommendations to date and 206 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:58,280 are working diligently towards this and started well before we got to the draft report stage 207 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,000 about a month ago. So a couple of components here, Institute of Fleet 208 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,100 Steering Committee with quarterly schedule. This will promote a lot more efficient 209 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:10,380 decision-making on vehicle replacement resolution of maintenance issues, other 210 00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:14,580 components that are needed with that, and that gives a group buy-in effort versus 211 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:19,160 having the fleet team, the fleet supervisor, making those decisions in a vacuum. 212 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,340 You'll soon create a formal preventive maintenance program for trailers and 213 00:16:23,340 --> 00:16:26,560 small equipment that doesn't really exist now while there's not a large burden 214 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,680 and all that. You never want to have staff go up and hook to a trailer and has a flat tire 215 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,560 because it hadn't been moved in six months with that. Enhanced the safety, prevents failures, 216 00:16:36,140 --> 00:16:42,100 reduces risk management, and also prolongs the life of these assets for you. And then also 217 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:49,160 communicate benefits of pursuing ASC or the lecture vehicle tech certifications to your technicians. 218 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,120 Surgeon mechanics are staying up to date with technology, with maintenance activities, 219 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,140 and the gain skills that benefit the city. 220 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,900 If you provide that professional development component of that, 221 00:17:01,180 --> 00:17:03,880 it could help maintain and retain employees 222 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,500 which mechanics are just like every other component 223 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,380 of the local government. 224 00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:10,660 It's hard to recruit and retain employees with this, 225 00:17:10,660 --> 00:17:13,420 particularly when there's a shortage of those skill laborers 226 00:17:13,420 --> 00:17:14,260 out there in the market. 227 00:17:14,660 --> 00:17:16,280 Dealerships will pluck them up very quickly 228 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:18,660 for a lot of different reasons. 229 00:17:20,930 --> 00:17:24,390 So any questions on the fleet study? 230 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:28,090 We don't have any questions or comments. 231 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,820 Just mayor if I might. 232 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:38,020 I'll just mention a few of the things in the fleet area that they've already initiated 233 00:17:38,020 --> 00:17:39,020 or already started. 234 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:40,240 I'll start with district. 235 00:17:40,420 --> 00:17:46,040 You might remember that, oh gosh, I can't remember when it was that we put fleet under public 236 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:46,320 work. 237 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,420 So fleet used to be a separate department. 238 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:54,620 And I guess in the last year, year and a half, we put that as a division under public works. 239 00:17:54,620 --> 00:18:01,020 So that's what they're referring to in the study about these customers are internal 240 00:18:01,020 --> 00:18:03,180 and they like the move to public works. 241 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,540 So one of the things that some of the things already in the works is working on those policy 242 00:18:08,540 --> 00:18:18,340 updates, doing a draft vehicle use and operator policy, we're implementing the pre-trip inspections, 243 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,140 we're implementing the key for key vehicle replacement policy. 244 00:18:22,140 --> 00:18:29,760 We're also working on several things in the procurement and utilization area, scheduling 245 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,480 department follow-up meetings, asset utilization questionnaire to make sure we have a handle 246 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:40,280 on what's being utilized, what's not, and what are those things that we're not, we might 247 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,240 be able to eliminate from the fleet or create a pool from. 248 00:18:46,260 --> 00:18:52,040 Also, the difference between, we do allow some take home vehicles, so we're working on 249 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,000 to clarify our policy around that. 250 00:18:55,860 --> 00:19:01,520 And then the vehicle replacement plan that he referred to, we do have a vehicle replacement 251 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,180 plan. 252 00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:09,620 However, over the years, it hasn't necessarily incorporated all of the vehicles in our fleet, 253 00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:10,920 so we're working on that. 254 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:25,060 And we're also taking a look at it from the perspective of, you know, just because it's ten years old, five years old, whatever, ten doesn't need to be replaced on a piece of equipment that's not utilized that often. 255 00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:32,260 So those types of things. And then technology, you'll see some of those requests come through in next year's budget requests. 256 00:19:32,260 --> 00:19:55,040 There is a lot of, this division in particular has not utilized technology hardly at all, and there are lots and lots of fleet maintenance technologies and softwares that could assist us in being more efficient with maintenance and repairs and those types of things and also knowledge of the utilization. 257 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,920 So those are the types of things that are already in the works and again you'll see some of these recommendations. 258 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Conditions come forward in the budget and in the budget process. We have not shared the final reports with the departments yet. We'll be doing that later this week. We wanted to present the council with an overview of the studies first, and then later this week, I'll meet with the fleet division and then also the permits and inspections division to go over in a little bit more detail some of the recommendations that are being made and the things that we're looking at. Thank you, Cohen. 259 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:37,540 Hey, Paulette. You know, as mentioned, having seven mechanics and the certifications, we have a list of the different certifications that are required, and we want an X percentage to be diesel certified into whatever. 260 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:48,580 Right, so I want to clarify obviously the ones our mechanics are certified mechanics, but those are types of things that we'll be looking at in the study. 261 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,920 What they've recommended is keeping up with certifications that are kind of best practices and new certifications. 262 00:20:53,920 --> 00:21:01,460 I'll say at this time, we don't necessarily have a list of those certifications that would 263 00:21:01,460 --> 00:21:01,920 be needed. 264 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:08,760 We're going to look at that and some have other certifications and some don't, but anyway, 265 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,880 so that is an area that we need to handle on and understand what certifications we need 266 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,520 that would be beneficial to our fleet. 267 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,360 Are we fully staffed with mechanics that said seven is the recommendation that we have seven? 268 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:28,880 Yes, we are fully staffed. I think the recommendation there is more re-reallocating the workload or 269 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:38,860 Reallocating some of the staff to make sure that we can handle the existing workload the other thing that we'll be looking at in as a part of that recommendation as the possibility of 270 00:21:38,860 --> 00:21:39,600 outsourcing 271 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,460 I think that 272 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:48,540 What we kind of took away from this study is maybe we've been operating a little too lean in terms of our mechanic shop 273 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:55,080 Knowing that we likely will not be in a position to add mechanics, to add positions and it's 274 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,940 going to be about reallocating the work and also looking at areas that might be able to 275 00:21:58,940 --> 00:21:59,740 be outsourced. 276 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,380 And was there a recommendation about putting fleet and fire under the same? 277 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,500 So right now we have separate fire mechanics. 278 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:15,540 So that allocation would be looked at in terms of, you know, the recommendation was to bring 279 00:22:15,540 --> 00:22:21,740 them all together as one mechanics division that works on everything and so part of that 280 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:24,900 would be what we'd look at in terms of the reallocation as well. 281 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:28,900 And the 3.8 overall rating was on a five point scale which 282 00:22:30,980 --> 00:22:31,980 is a decent, right? 283 00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:32,340 Yeah. 284 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:34,800 Yeah, that's good. 285 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,700 It's a B, I guess. 286 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:40,580 I see. 287 00:22:40,740 --> 00:22:42,080 I don't know what's the grade left out. 288 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,360 I don't know. 289 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:43,960 What's the range? 290 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:44,800 Yeah. 291 00:22:44,860 --> 00:22:46,760 I don't know any more because I know the scale are. 292 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,060 They don't make any sense anymore. 293 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:48,340 Yeah. 294 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,980 A lot simpler. 295 00:22:49,420 --> 00:22:49,620 Okay. 296 00:22:49,820 --> 00:22:50,060 Thank you. 297 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,500 Yeah. 298 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:52,880 I had a question about electric vehicles. 299 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:59,980 Obviously, there's not an electric fire truck or dump truck, but is it now becoming more practical 300 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,720 to consider electric vehicles, maybe even the police fleet? 301 00:23:05,020 --> 00:23:09,040 And the reason I bring that up is I've got an electric vehicle, had it for five years. 302 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,840 The big difference in cost, not only fuel, but maintenance is almost zero. 303 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:20,840 So is that becoming practical to use or to look at electric vehicles for such services? 304 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,200 Certainly, looking at that and you're correct. 305 00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:35,040 When you look at an electric vehicle, the maintenance, I'm going to say the maintenance hours associated with that vehicle are much lower than an internal combustible engine, a gas or diesel engine with that. 306 00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:43,000 There is some preventive maintenance savings in that because you're not obviously changing all, but you're still replacing the tires, upgrading the brakes. 307 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,940 for place in windshield wipers, et cetera. But there is less parts in there. And so they are 308 00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:54,240 more efficient from that standpoint because there is less work per unit associated with that. 309 00:23:54,380 --> 00:24:00,200 We are seeing more government fleets increase electric vehicle or other alternative fuels out there. 310 00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:04,760 That technology continues to evolve. And so we're seeing where it is more sustainable. 311 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:10,740 As you mentioned, you know, sometimes some vehicles like a patrol vehicle might not be a great candidate 312 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:16,980 to be replaced because they run 24-7 hard to bring them down and to charge them with that. 313 00:24:17,340 --> 00:24:23,720 There are electric fire apparatus out there. They are very expensive, but you also have to look 314 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:30,160 at the cost and the functionality of that as well. With that technology is just starting to emerge 315 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,520 on the heavy equipment side of things, a fire apparatus where, as you mentioned, you've had a 316 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:41,160 Let your vehicle yourself probably a sedan for five years so that technology is a little more known on with that 317 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:51,600 It does require different skill set and for your mechanics to maintain that but also the infrastructure is needed for electric vehicles for here at City Hall at your 318 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:59,040 Fleet yard on with that and as you start looking at that there are different requirements and infrastructure and sometimes that cost of 319 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:25,620 We're here to entry for that if you have to upgrade your yard to be able to charge more vehicles as part of that. So as something to keep in mind, if you were to make that transition dead, yes, electric vehicles, maybe not much more upfront, but how many hundreds of thousands, not millions of dollars, may you have to input an infrastructure side to have the site ready to be able to charge 15 or 20 vehicles here overnight, every night of the week. 320 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:25,780 Thank you. 321 00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:26,140 All right. 322 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:26,960 Thank you. 323 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Good question. 324 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,520 Anybody else? 325 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,840 So, a couple of things. 326 00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:35,920 So, when you do the final report, which we'll give us, you're going to give us the bitch 327 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,740 marking, the best practices, the best in class, whatever it is in some of the data, so we can 328 00:25:40,740 --> 00:25:41,540 look at all of it. 329 00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:45,120 I got a lot of questions that are rolling around in my head. 330 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,500 The other is, if I look at, when you say 8.7 and I realize there's trailers in that and 331 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:55,560 some other things, and you say a 10-year replacement, 332 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,800 that means we're 3.7 years past a 10-year replacement plan, 333 00:26:00,620 --> 00:26:01,720 just based on the average, 334 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,240 because you'd have an average of five years 335 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,680 if you had a 10-year replacement, right? 336 00:26:05,020 --> 00:26:05,640 Many news stories. 337 00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:08,640 It is a 10-year replacement and some assets 338 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,060 will replace multiple times in 10 years. 339 00:26:11,180 --> 00:26:12,180 When you look at patrol cars, 340 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,500 typically that's a 3-to-5-year replacement cycle. 341 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:16,680 So some of those vehicles might be replaced 342 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,040 twice in a 10-year plan, where a trailer you buy once, 343 00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:21,200 it's gonna get you 20 years. 344 00:26:21,780 --> 00:26:28,040 our fire apparatus that's typically a 10 to 12 year turnover on those okay so 345 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:36,990 do you break that out by asset class we did not include a replacement plant 346 00:26:36,990 --> 00:26:43,030 in here but I think there is some information in the report to talk about some 347 00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:46,230 of that to provide some guidance and 100 percent sure on that but I do see a 348 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:51,850 life cycle table here on page 67 report that you will get that talks about 349 00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:57,410 a lot of life cycle years, life cycle miles, and even trailer, you know, 20 years life cycle, 350 00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:59,690 life cycle miles, not applicable with that. 351 00:27:00,030 --> 00:27:02,030 And then what our average is in each of those classes. 352 00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:06,330 Because it implies there's more money to be spent than less money to be spent. 353 00:27:06,430 --> 00:27:08,230 I'm just trying to, I'm trying to thank money here. 354 00:27:08,650 --> 00:27:12,830 So we don't have a replacement plan in here for your physical assets itself. 355 00:27:13,130 --> 00:27:16,630 But we do provide some guidance on when you should replace our policy. 356 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:24,030 Okay, and then I believe like the telematics is what they use for a lot in the long haul trucker stuff, right? 357 00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:25,650 Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. 358 00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:28,490 Yeah, you think from GPS, how long have you been going? 359 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:34,910 GPS, how long has been Adeland, you know, if Aaron Adels is his work truck for an hour before he starts his day, 360 00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:40,750 you're going to get that and you come and have a conversation with me where my colleague might just go out there and crank it up, jump right in. 361 00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:43,310 And define the word up fitting. 362 00:27:43,890 --> 00:27:52,030 A fitting is where you take a patrol vehicle for police, and where you customize and put light bars on it, the North-Western Hills decals, 363 00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:57,870 you know, some moment, depending on what you're buying to have the seats in the back and the cages are already in. 364 00:27:58,190 --> 00:28:03,290 Sometimes they don't, your patrol officers have certain features and functionalities that they like. 365 00:28:03,410 --> 00:28:10,090 The radio systems included in that with that someone maybe, you know, a sergeant maybe has a different setup than a patrol officer does 366 00:28:10,090 --> 00:28:12,010 because they have different equipment needs with that. 367 00:28:12,010 --> 00:28:14,790 So, upfitting is taking the base patrol vehicle. 368 00:28:15,070 --> 00:28:19,050 I think it's a Tahoe here, upfitting it to North Regional Hill standards, putting your 369 00:28:19,050 --> 00:28:23,070 light bars on it if it's not on there, putting in your radio systems, putting your decals, 370 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:24,250 putting the boxes in the back. 371 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:28,570 You know, custom, I don't want to say customizing it, but essentially customizing it 372 00:28:28,570 --> 00:28:29,850 onto what you need. 373 00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:34,390 So, it's really upfitting a vehicle to be used for your patrol department, even sometimes 374 00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:37,170 public works, you've got some radios in those or fire department as well. 375 00:28:37,170 --> 00:28:41,890 And then you have to strip them back down before you sell them as well. 376 00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:47,150 Okay, then my last comment is, I know that most of the dealerships around here, 377 00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:54,430 they actually, in turn, they pull kids from the Bechtle that are mechanics. 378 00:28:54,910 --> 00:28:57,550 And they'll do, if they want to think in terms of an intern to have one, 379 00:28:58,050 --> 00:29:01,510 coming through, you might see about how we can work with them. 380 00:29:01,650 --> 00:29:05,650 Because I know they have a 5-star Ford certainly is lousy with them. 381 00:29:05,650 --> 00:29:16,850 And so it's an automation, they get a lot of the kids from back to old, they'll do the mechanic stuff, and they're really up to date on their set, and they all have a job right when they graduate high school, making good money, too, by the way. 382 00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:18,850 Thank you. 383 00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:22,570 So the reports, like I said, will send them out to you tonight. 384 00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:26,050 Those reports are 100 or so pages each. 385 00:29:26,610 --> 00:29:29,530 So they're going to include a lot of detail of their recommendations. 386 00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:32,910 Again, on things like replacement plans, they don't give us a plan. 387 00:29:32,910 --> 00:29:37,070 And they're making recommendations and given, like you said, some of those best practices, 388 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:42,570 some of those industry norms or even, you know, new things to look at. 389 00:29:42,970 --> 00:29:50,270 So, so happy reading once you get them, they are like I say, 100 or so pages each one of them. 390 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:54,770 So, the other thing I was going to say on the mechanics, that is an area where we have a lot of turnover. 391 00:29:55,470 --> 00:29:59,190 And a lot of it is because what Erin mentioned is the pay. 392 00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:59,890 We can't pay. 393 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:16,640 Okay, what? Four dealerships, the car dealerships, and other private shops can pay, so we do experience a lot of turnover in those positions. But we're hopeful that some of these recommendations can help us retain more. So, anyways. 394 00:30:20,260 --> 00:30:23,020 We'll transition to the permitting study if that's all right. 395 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:32,580 So I've led the permitting study. I'm a former planning and development director, Alison Brecky, former planning and development director as well. 396 00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:37,820 we were the two lead analysts on this engagement looking at permitting and 397 00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:44,060 permitting is multiple departments. It is drawn in blank. Stephanie, what's your 398 00:30:44,060 --> 00:30:50,040 group up? Community development. But yeah, so it just real quick. So we called it 399 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,380 permitting but really they're looking at permit and building inspections as 400 00:30:55,380 --> 00:30:59,980 well. So those are kind of these are the areas that this is looking at. So 401 00:30:59,980 --> 00:31:06,580 including community development, planning, fire marshes, office, and a little bit of public works engineering as well. 402 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,580 So it was a little more accomplishing of multiple teams that make up that permitting operation in the city, 403 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:18,220 everything from pre-application to certificate occupancy to open up a grand opening of your business. 404 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,140 We conducted this operational process analysis of the city's permitting approaches, 405 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:29,020 looking at processes and workflow, technology, utilization, integration both internally, 406 00:31:29,020 --> 00:31:34,580 and externally with your customers, looked at opportunities to improve customer service. 407 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:40,320 Where can that be enhanced more on the self-service, but also ensuring that you align with 408 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,280 energy press practices with this, but the ultimate goal to provide a predictable and 409 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:51,240 timely permitting operation and services to the public and to the community that you serve. 410 00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:55,780 One of the biggest things that we have found doing this and dozens of studies across the 411 00:31:55,780 --> 00:32:02,360 country, is the biggest challenge is there's this expectation for service, irrespective 412 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,980 of where it is in government, particularly in permitting, and when you don't meet that, 413 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,920 that is where you, as the elected body, get the complaints at, and so that's why I'm providing 414 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:17,820 a predictable and timely service is really our ultimate goal here, where you get the service 415 00:32:17,820 --> 00:32:22,660 that you're expecting to get, and to align those resources around that, and so that was really 416 00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:27,540 the point of this permitting efficiency audit was to provide a predictable and timely service 417 00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:30,300 to meet the service level goals of the city. 418 00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:35,200 Our methodology and the permitting side was very similar to the fleet side. 419 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:41,300 We did a current status profile where we interviewed all the staff included in the permitting process. 420 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,160 Extensive data collection, I think it was about 22 items as part of that list that were provided 421 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,800 to us. 422 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,280 We did our due diligence to understand the current state what is working well, where there 423 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,420 there are some challenges associated with your, 424 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,980 from that perspective, with the current process. 425 00:32:58,340 --> 00:32:59,940 We also did a process mapping exercise. 426 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,260 We set downstairs in one of the conference rooms, 427 00:33:02,740 --> 00:33:04,640 pulled up our screens and started typing out the process 428 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920 to create process diagrams to see what it is 429 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,420 in today's current state with this 430 00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:11,840 and use those to identify improvement opportunities 431 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,080 whether it's with the process itself, 432 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,040 technology, utilization, timeliness, et cetera. 433 00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:17,940 We did some benchmarking. 434 00:33:18,140 --> 00:33:19,800 We compared to industry best practices. 435 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,000 This is about 60 industry best practices 436 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,800 that we have evolved over the years as part of this and compared your operations, 437 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,120 your processes to these best practices and identify current strings, 438 00:33:31,540 --> 00:33:35,680 but also opportunities for improvement with the existing system. 439 00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:42,540 We also compared you to four other North Texas cities, very similar size and scope of North 440 00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:49,140 Richardson heels on such things as timeliness, structure, and workload with that. 441 00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:54,100 We also had customer input as I mentioned earlier online survey and focus group but recent customers 442 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:58,440 to get their perspective because as you often hear and you get some complaints and we 443 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,300 dove in to see if there's valid or not to balance out what we're hearing from what staff 444 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:06,640 is saying on what the process is and really what the customer thinks those processes are. 445 00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:11,500 All of this due diligence really led into an operational analysis where we looked at those 446 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:17,240 operations, practices, processes, your workload, your performance, your technology and identify 447 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:22,500 these issues and develop recommendations to address these based on this analysis and findings. 448 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,540 We had this, I was input and then we analyzed it to get to the recommendations and develop 449 00:34:27,540 --> 00:34:34,620 an action plan that identified the recommendations and the impact to the organization, whether it's 450 00:34:34,620 --> 00:34:39,480 efficiency, gain, customer service level with that. You'll see that in the summary of recommendations 451 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:46,280 before the appendix and a report with that. And here to present the draft and final report as part 452 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:46,600 part of this. 453 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,000 Some of the key findings that we had as part of the permitting study is you have an online 454 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,640 permitting system with various degrees of utilization by staff and so there's a whole technology 455 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,980 to chapter in our report to talk about the permitting system. 456 00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:25,280 You have a really strong website that has robust data sets and some interactive maps related to development activity, perm any activities here in the city. It's a really good resources out there for that. You have a cross disciplinary development review committee that is in place that really looks at some of those larger applications that are coming in to discuss them and to collaborate on them internally to provide that feedback back to the customer with this. 457 00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:32,060 You do have processing timelines for when application comes in or re-review comes in with that. 458 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:39,160 You have these timelines. You have adopted them as a city. There are some challenges in meeting those performance goals. 459 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:46,240 And that's where oftentimes there's complaints come where I talked about earlier, meeting expectations, but you're not meeting those expectations at times. 460 00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:56,350 There are some technology improvements to the permitting software to improve internal processes and efficiencies, but also some of the customer portal as well. 461 00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:57,770 We'll talk about that. 462 00:35:57,850 --> 00:35:59,990 You'll see that in a report, too. 463 00:36:00,470 --> 00:36:02,450 There's an opportunity to enhance customer information 464 00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:04,790 and documentation out there to provide more resources. 465 00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:07,370 But like most of you, most of your customers 466 00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:09,390 are gonna go to the website to take a look 467 00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:11,470 to see what is out there to do their due diligence 468 00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:12,770 before they decide. 469 00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:14,570 Maybe I should call somebody at the city 470 00:36:14,570 --> 00:36:15,790 and see if I really do need a permit 471 00:36:15,790 --> 00:36:17,530 for X, Y or Z with this. 472 00:36:18,250 --> 00:36:21,350 One thing that we did notice that was confirmed 473 00:36:21,350 --> 00:36:23,950 in the survey was there is a strong emphasis 474 00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:31,630 of customer service throughout the departments involved in this, and that was reaffirmed in the customer survey that we had. 475 00:36:31,830 --> 00:36:37,690 The customer survey was very positive with most interactions, but there were also some improvements for offer. 476 00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:41,130 Opportunities for improvement identified as part of that feedback as well. 477 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:54,560 We broke, in a permitting study, we broke the recommendations down into processes, technology, management, and administration, customer service, and staffing needs with this. 478 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:00,240 So, some of the process recommendations that we presented in a report were to standardize 479 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:01,920 review timelines to internal teams. 480 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,300 There was some confusion about really what the timeline is depending on the team and the 481 00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:07,120 team member themselves. 482 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,060 So, some opportunities to standardize this approach. 483 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,120 We also recommended to modify the approach to the development review committee and how that 484 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,480 committee is used internally to be more efficient and effective. 485 00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:23,260 As part of the pre-application process, we made recommendations to change this approach on 486 00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:27,800 some of the criteria where it's maybe required, but also formalizing some of the pre-application 487 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680 process to provide better and efficient services with that. 488 00:37:31,860 --> 00:37:35,900 Over on the civil plan review side of things, there's not official application for some 489 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,220 of these site plan developments and it's needed, and there's no fee associated with that. 490 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:44,580 So if you create an application, there should be an adjoining fee with that to formalize 491 00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:50,600 that, to have greater consistency in the review, and to also establish some performance metrics 492 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,660 around that and performance timeline goes. 493 00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:58,640 Other recommendations related to the process, 494 00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:02,100 there's some inconsistency and recent middle of applications. 495 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,140 Some of these are emailed in, staff do allow that. 496 00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:08,220 It's good customer service, but it often gets lost 497 00:38:08,780 --> 00:38:10,840 when the application comes in, if somebody's on vacation, 498 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,540 not checking their email for a week of his email 499 00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:15,840 to an individual, and there's some challenges 500 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,320 with the online portal for some recent middles. 501 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,580 And so you made a recommendation to consistently require 502 00:38:21,580 --> 00:38:28,440 to go through that online permitting portal for a consistency in capturing that data and rerouting it out. 503 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,480 Also the same thing with inspection requests through the permitting software system. 504 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,740 Right now you can call, you can get those, you can go through your online customer portal. 505 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:44,640 It's a different approach so there's recommendations to consolidate into every inspection request coming through that online portal as well. 506 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,080 There's been some recent efforts to update some codes and standards for the city. 507 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,280 I know some of these have been brought to City Council recently for adoption. 508 00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:56,920 We made some recommendations to continue to update codes and standards. 509 00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:01,700 As part of this, if you've got updated code and standards that align with the prevailing 510 00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:05,700 development practices out there, it streamlines the process. 511 00:39:06,020 --> 00:39:07,240 You're not having to make exceptions. 512 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,640 There's not a lot of interpretation. 513 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:15,660 And so this is benefits of process for the customer, but also staff and gets, maintains a high 514 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:20,460 Not a level of review, but also maybe prevent something for having to take multiple rounds 515 00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:21,980 of submissions to get it approved. 516 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,920 So we made a recommendation to continue recent efforts to update your codes and standards 517 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,620 that have been adopted by the city. 518 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,560 Transition into technology, there were a fair amount of recommendations related to technology. 519 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:41,600 A lot of these are internal facing very niche changes to the EPL system, as it's called 520 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,980 the permitting software system as part of that, such as reducing the number of work flows 521 00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:50,780 and link related permits within that system. 522 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,380 A lot of just work flows are in the system for different types. 523 00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:58,660 I think there's like 148, that's a lot, you need to consolidate that for greater consistency 524 00:39:58,660 --> 00:39:59,900 see for staff but also 525 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,980 We also reduced that when somebody tries to submit something online. Several updates to the customer portal. There's navigation challenges that were noted and our due diligence looking at the system. Staff noted a lot of the frequent complaints that they receive from customers. Customers talked about several things from their perspective. Hasn't screen sharing a couple of times when we have some one-on-one conversations with people with that. As I mentioned earlier, modify approaches for inspection requests. There's some real nuances to how that system works and some inefficiencies with that for both the customer and staff. 526 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:39,120 and there's some challenges and we want to address that with some changes within the workflows to make that much easier for both the customer and staff. 527 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:45,060 They're having to navigate a lot of this, get an inspection request, it's not even relevant to what they're really wanting for. 528 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:58,620 So an inspector shows up and it's classified as rough and plumbing, but that's just something that they pick because it's not a thing they could pick and it was actually a framing inspection, much different approach and thought process related to that. 529 00:40:58,620 --> 00:41:02,660 And then there's also some opportunities for some auto-generated correspondence with 530 00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:05,280 the applicant through the portal and the system itself. 531 00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:10,440 And then we also make the recommendation to improve connectivity between the plan review 532 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,480 software, which is looking at the plan set, and we'll call them Blueprints, Historic Name 533 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,660 for a floor plan, and integrating that system, which is a standalone system into the permitting 534 00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:26,480 software system to link them up to create greater efficiencies for staff on the backend and 535 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,280 the applicant too. 536 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:36,930 Other recommendations use a permitting software system as a data phase for all development related activities, applications and inspections. 537 00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:50,470 Also the creation standardized performance reports and dashboards, both internal facing for management but also external out there to show some of the good things that are going on related to performance and the workload out there. 538 00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:56,890 There's a lot of things happening, a lot of work going on, a lot of permits being pulled, a lot of applications going on out there. 539 00:41:56,890 --> 00:42:03,170 So dashboards are good for greater transparency, but also monitoring that fluctuation and workload as it changes and 540 00:42:03,170 --> 00:42:09,350 managers can make more decisions in real time to adjust or approach or say, hey, we've had a backlog here of what's going on, what's 541 00:42:09,350 --> 00:42:15,370 happened in the last quarter, why are we're slowing down or why do we increase our performance that 542 00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:21,610 insight is very critical to make decisions on how potential modification and changes moving forward. 543 00:42:21,610 --> 00:42:25,510 All fill staff should be equipped with tablets to be able to pull up those 544 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:29,790 plan sets and the permit application online on their tablets in the field and they 545 00:42:29,790 --> 00:42:34,870 can also result that inspection pass, fail it immediately and it's automated in 546 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:40,030 the system where they can be right there with their tablet. Click pass, the customer's 547 00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:43,710 going to receive a notification that they pass their building inspection this 548 00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:46,850 morning that they requested are failed with correction notes as part of that. 549 00:42:47,290 --> 00:42:51,350 So giving staff to be able to do that in real time is important for operational 550 00:42:51,350 --> 00:42:51,990 additional efficiencies. 551 00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:57,510 Also, related to technology and the permitting software system, there's some training opportunities 552 00:42:57,510 --> 00:43:02,310 for staff for both new hires and existing staff as new updates are rolled out as part of 553 00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:03,250 that system with that. 554 00:43:04,010 --> 00:43:07,990 And then finally, we do make the recommendation to establish an internal technology working 555 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:08,230 group. 556 00:43:08,430 --> 00:43:12,290 Very similar to the fleet side of things, have this working group to work together to work 557 00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:17,630 through the kinks, the bugs, our additional needs for technology to have multiple resources 558 00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:22,050 is looking at that focusing in on that to make some of these changes that we're recommending 559 00:43:22,050 --> 00:43:27,430 as part of this report, but also to be more proactive in the future to really address 560 00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:30,870 these challenges before they come off or make those changes proactively. 561 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,400 The other bucket, as I mentioned, customer service recommendations. 562 00:43:37,060 --> 00:43:43,140 We made the recommendations to establish a virtual one-stop shop web page, a permitting central 563 00:43:43,140 --> 00:43:46,680 web page that has links to pretty much everything you need related to this. 564 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:53,660 If you walk in this building on the first floor, you go to the development services counter there on the right if you come in over here by the municipal court 565 00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:59,880 You have a one-stop shop essentially in person, but online is fragmented among multiple web pages 566 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:05,720 And so there's not a one-stop shop if I'm a customer do I need a permit for this? Where do I start? 567 00:44:05,980 --> 00:44:10,580 Do I start in the permitting? Do I start in planning? Do I start in code enforcement? Do I start in utilities? 568 00:44:10,580 --> 00:44:15,500 having a one-stop shop with all the majority information needed out there is 569 00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:20,440 critical for efficiency for the customer and to hopefully bring down the number 570 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,760 of inquiries that somebody might have if they have questions. Another area that 571 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,840 we made a recommendation on is provided development fee calculator online. This is a 572 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,080 gift the customer an estimate of what that potential fee might be if they were to 573 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:40,560 pull a billing permit. What am I looking at? Is this going to be a $10 fee or is this 574 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,020 this where they can do some of their due diligence based on your fee schedule to get an idea of what 575 00:44:45,020 --> 00:44:51,540 it might cost to submit a permit and receive that permit. Also, focusing on development and 576 00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:55,860 permitting application checklists, providing that information out there to get more complete 577 00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:59,580 applications early on initially. You want to have a complete application. 578 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980 If it's everything you have, you can get through the process much quicker versus piecemelling it back together, or missing these three things, and then you have to add these additional things there. That slows down the processes, create more choke points, create more challenges. Most of us are probably going to DMV, or we'd gone to the bank, and didn't have a checklist and then show up with everything we needed to establish a power, if we bought a new house, or got a new apartment, or something like that. And so you want to make sure you have everything to go one time at it instead of having to 579 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:32,020 go back and do it, people get frustrated at that point. 580 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,380 Also, made recommendation to update your public noticing 581 00:45:37,380 --> 00:45:37,760 signs. 582 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,180 Modern technology have QR codes where you can drive by sign, 583 00:45:42,580 --> 00:45:44,880 snap to QR code, go to the development web page. 584 00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:47,840 Having that type of information is critical to provide more 585 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,320 information on what is actually going to happen on this vacant 586 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,040 ladder or what's going to redevelop here with the sign, 587 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:59,240 provide more information through that sign to be more 588 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:01,200 proactive essentially with the public. 589 00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:06,040 The other bucket that we had was management and administration recommendations. 590 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,280 We do make recommendation to create a mission statement to unify all development staff to 591 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:18,120 really focus on the primary focus of their day-to-day responsibilities and how they fit into the 592 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,780 greater good and greater team with that. 593 00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:25,980 Also an internal development leadership committee to enhance collaboration amongst the different 594 00:46:25,980 --> 00:46:26,420 teams. 595 00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:43,300 And to address any challenges to have somebody who's really a point on this, when you have operations that span multiple departments while they're generally co-located all in the same suite, sometimes you're going to have some conflicting challenges on review comments or how do you resolve issues. 596 00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:48,520 So if you have this leadership committee, everybody works together towards that common mission that an interversible point. 597 00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:54,360 And another area that we made a recommendation and was to conduct a user fee study to update 598 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,660 that fee schedule and establish cost recovery goals. 599 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,880 You know, you're providing, you know, police services, that's general fund covering a lot 600 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:08,840 of the development and permitting functions, you know, as a service that you're providing 601 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,580 because you have to. 602 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,820 But as we call somebody to decide to do something they come in and pull a permit with 603 00:47:12,820 --> 00:47:13,020 that. 604 00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:15,180 You have an updated your fee schedule. 605 00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:21,140 So you updated incrementally, but you haven't really done a deep dive into understanding what's the true calls behind that V-Schedule. 606 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,100 Are we under collecting? Are we over collecting as part of that? 607 00:47:25,580 --> 00:47:28,320 And so you needed to do a deep dive into understanding what the true calls? 608 00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:38,600 How much does it really cost the issue of water heater permit versus a new apartment complex or a new restaurant coming in or a tenant improvement or somebody putting a fence in their backyard? 609 00:47:38,600 --> 00:48:05,460 What does that cost the service and how much of that do you really want to recover as a city is important to look at and updating that user fee schedule as part of that and we met a couple other recommendations around that to make sure that you are meeting those cost recovery goals that the city is established and that you are providing the level of fee that you want to charge for these services that are critical to the public health and safety of the community. 610 00:48:07,090 --> 00:48:12,690 Also, as part of that, there are re-inspection fees and excessive plan review fees. 611 00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:15,550 Plan review shouldn't take eight rounds of review comments. 612 00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:22,930 So as an incentive us, that typically after three plan reviews, that's where an excessive 613 00:48:22,930 --> 00:48:24,770 plan review fee could come in place. 614 00:48:25,390 --> 00:48:31,110 I need to assess these fees to really promote a complete application early on, to get quality 615 00:48:31,110 --> 00:48:32,850 submittals early on. 616 00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:36,590 So I think with re-inspection, if somebody is really egregious and they're just calling 617 00:48:36,590 --> 00:48:41,530 in and hadn't got it completed three or four times and you know Bob's going to do that then you 618 00:48:41,530 --> 00:48:46,090 have that in your toolbox to say hey I'm going to start assessing these reinspection fees 619 00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:52,410 because you're not ready this is a reoccurring offense that's taken art staff away from other 620 00:48:52,410 --> 00:48:56,830 customers who actually have done what they said they were going to do in every question inspection. 621 00:48:57,810 --> 00:49:02,070 As part of the plan review fee currently you have a permitting fee 622 00:49:03,130 --> 00:49:08,670 for a building permit. And that is paid when the building permit is issued. 623 00:49:09,710 --> 00:49:14,410 There are a fair amount of applications that actually come through that are 624 00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:20,270 reviewed once, twice, maybe three times. You say we're ready to issue a building permit, 625 00:49:20,410 --> 00:49:24,310 but nobody comes and gets that building permit. They actually never build that 626 00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:30,990 building. But your staff has spent time reviewing that application. There is 627 00:49:30,990 --> 00:49:35,610 There's another model on that many communities have implemented where they charge a plan review 628 00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:36,430 fee upfront. 629 00:49:37,150 --> 00:49:42,890 They'll recover a cost-tom associated with reviewing that application, generally up to three 630 00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:47,070 times and then the rega, assessor plan review fee jumps in with that. 631 00:49:47,710 --> 00:49:52,430 And then you have a permit fee at the back end when that building permit is issued so your 632 00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:56,330 staff is not providing all the service that never comes or fruition and you never collect 633 00:49:56,330 --> 00:49:57,810 the fees associated with that. 634 00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:59,950 So, we made the recommendation to try. 635 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:29,220 Transition to a plan review, impermanent fee model, where it requires you to take a permit, review the upfront, to cover this application. This is only like single family homes and commercial development. This is not a water heater. I mean, this water heater is issued automatically over to, over to counter, typically with that pretty quickly. Not subject to a lot of review with that, but for some of these other ones that do require a plan review to establish this model, where you have the plan review fee upfront. 636 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,140 You get through that if you need to have excessive plan review fees, you can tack that on, 637 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,240 but then once the permit is ready to issue to do that. 638 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:44,740 So you do not have unrecoverable costs associated with a plan review where there is no permit 639 00:50:44,740 --> 00:50:47,080 actually finally issued with that. 640 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,140 And finally, as I mentioned earlier, staff, there are several code changes we make recommendations 641 00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:56,800 here to prove the efficiencies of the permitting process. 642 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,240 That's one of these is transition to a new state law recently to staff approved preliminary and final subdivision plans. 643 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,740 I think you've probably received a few of those here for a cursor review on Cassandra agenda. 644 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,400 That can be reviewed and approved by staff now based on state legislature. 645 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,440 So update your code with that, I think there's some language that's maybe coming with that. 646 00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:24,700 Simplify the table of uses in your development code with that to streamline that effort to consolidate that and to broader categories with that. 647 00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:32,800 And then also to special use permit thresholds and approval process to make some changes with that to focus on a more predictable and efficient process 648 00:51:33,940 --> 00:51:40,460 Or some areas with that so you might be seeing some of these to update your code to make life a little bit more easier for the customer 649 00:51:40,460 --> 00:51:43,860 But also improve the efficiency internally as well 650 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,600 So with that I'll turn it over to the questions of the questions 651 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:48,760 Questions? 652 00:51:49,260 --> 00:51:49,760 Go on. 653 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,380 Who makes up the Development Review Committee? 654 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,900 So it's a staff internal development review committee, and it's got representatives from 655 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:04,780 various departments. 656 00:52:05,020 --> 00:52:11,700 So you've got police, fire, obviously planning, engineering, the building officials part 657 00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:21,200 of that, parks and recreation is part of that kind of, any fire, or you said that, any department 658 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:30,800 that needs to see it from a standpoint of not just a plan review, but how does it impact public safety, fire response, that kind of thing. 659 00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:48,580 Would it make sense to maybe bring some people in the community who work in certain areas to be part of that, or would that be a different committee that I'm just thinking about contractors or real estate folks, people who maybe know the industry to kind of help bounce things off of. 660 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,240 Now, we, we, it almost was a bad discharge recommendation, there were a lot of committees suggested in there. 661 00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:54,960 I would just say. 662 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,040 No, yeah, there's a lot of committees. 663 00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:57,560 Maybe, maybe you put them on one of those. 664 00:52:57,740 --> 00:53:02,400 Well, the thing is, is that's kind of what you're planning and zoning committee is for. 665 00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:04,760 That's, that's who that's made up of. 666 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:11,780 So, the staff, internal committee is really just to look at it from the standpoint of does it comply with our ordinances? 667 00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:17,560 Does it meet our long range comprehensive plan, not just for land use, but for parks and rec. 668 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:23,460 And those types of things, they're given that type of input and getting those comments back to the applicant. 669 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,060 And then it's the P and Z that kind of serves that function that you're talking about. 670 00:53:28,820 --> 00:53:33,520 I'm understanding the recommendations that they've made in this report for the committees. 671 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,200 They're really staff committees to improve the process. 672 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:43,140 Okay, and I think I understand and we've obviously talked about this the 673 00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:49,500 People apply online and then you get emails and you got to connect the dots there 674 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:56,060 Is the recommendation to force people back to the portal to do that so that it all gets tracked in one place? 675 00:53:56,220 --> 00:54:02,160 That is correct all initial applications and recent middle should go through that online customer portal 676 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,520 through that where you're not circumventing it or anything like that. 677 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,540 We dealt with contractors who I was sure would tell me they were doing one thing but 678 00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:12,080 we're actually doing another thing and they weren't connecting the dots there. 679 00:54:12,980 --> 00:54:17,780 Is there last question which I know that makes tracking easier, right? 680 00:54:18,020 --> 00:54:20,680 Because then do you know when it's, you know, when it's dating? 681 00:54:22,420 --> 00:54:26,660 One of the things I've noticed I oversee risk management for the company I work for which 682 00:54:26,660 --> 00:54:30,660 you can fill my risk management, you can fill a thimble with my risk management knowledge, 683 00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:34,860 but it's my responsibility. I've noticed that when we submit certificates of 684 00:54:34,860 --> 00:54:39,980 insurance, a lot of them are being reviewed immediately by AI. Is there any AI 685 00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:43,660 technology? I don't know it's coming, but is there any AI technology on some of 686 00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:48,300 this planned review and permitting that will be either here or now or somewhere in 687 00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:54,140 the near future? Yes AI can be a game changer like it is in many areas when it comes 688 00:54:54,140 --> 00:54:59,620 to the permitting process where it has seen the greatest emphasis so far. 689 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:29,920 Is completeness check? Having that checklist, identifying what is needed as part of that and then filtering that through AI to say, hey, you've got 17 out of 19 requirements on this or you're missing the site plan or the engineering plan or utility plan as part of this plan set. And so if you reject that automatically. That is an area that we see where completeness check for a new single-family home, you might take two minutes to do that where AI can run in 10 seconds and it can flag it or say it's good. And then you have the human review. 690 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:35,380 with that. Also, other areas where AI is prevailing, you're starting to see more and 691 00:55:35,380 --> 00:55:40,480 more of it is on the building plan review itself. Looking at the structural of that 692 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,820 and compliance with the adopted building code and running it through that and just cross 693 00:55:45,820 --> 00:55:51,960 checking it with audits by staff to confirm that yes, this applies with the adopted building 694 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:57,740 code. And I think there was some recent legislation in Texas that allowed that and I'm trying 695 00:55:57,740 --> 00:56:02,560 planning to think there is a community or county, I think somewhere in central Texas 696 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,740 that actually has AI plan review as part of that it might just be with some of the 697 00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:12,320 trades. I'm not 100% sure. But that is out there. Orange County, Florida is probably 698 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,980 that sort of land of Florida. They have had AI building plan review for almost two years 699 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:22,460 now. The zoning code of things a little more complex because that is very specific by 700 00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:26,980 communities in Texas is harder with a lot of their plan developments with a lot of the 701 00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:30,260 of divisions that it came in over the years, why don't that's not digitized? 702 00:56:30,340 --> 00:56:33,880 If you talk to zoning staff, that's a little more intensive review with that. 703 00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:37,600 But for the completeness check and the building plan review, those components, 704 00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:40,740 a lot of success in local government for AOP perspective. 705 00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:49,420 You mentioned using the permitting software as a database, I guess you make some changes 706 00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:49,860 on that. 707 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,900 Is that permitting software we currently have? 708 00:56:53,180 --> 00:56:57,240 Is that at the pool, I guess, is it something we built ourselves or is that about the 709 00:56:57,860 --> 00:56:59,120 You make the changes? 710 00:56:59,660 --> 00:57:13,120 You have EPO, which is, I believe, Interga, which is one of the probably three largest companies out there that provide permitting software solutions along with the whole other suite of municipal enterprise software systems out there. 711 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:22,620 So as a very common system, many of my clients that I've had over the last three to five years have the same system, it's a little more common here in North Texas. 712 00:57:22,620 --> 00:57:29,280 We do see it a lot here. We also see it in California, Florida elsewhere, but it is a one of the the larger companies out there 713 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:37,520 It has a lot of capabilities and functionalities that are prevailing best practices and it integrates very well with the plan review software as well 714 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,700 And you mentioned that we have a 715 00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:44,260 It's some certain percentage of our plans never get to final 716 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,460 I do not have that information off top over hand 717 00:57:50,460 --> 00:57:55,080 I mean it's not 20% that are getting plan review not going to permit, but it was enough 718 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,140 that it was brought up in multiple conversations with staff and interviews and throughout 719 00:57:59,140 --> 00:58:03,740 this iterative process that we had with the Project Steering Committee that is something 720 00:58:03,740 --> 00:58:09,200 to do and there has been nationally and a lot of our clients. 721 00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:15,380 We see that particularly with the economic uncertainties of the past 12 to 18 months or inflation 722 00:58:15,380 --> 00:58:18,940 We've got a grand idea, well, I can't get financing now or our 723 00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:22,680 interest rates are too high and we'll put it on hold, so people will run it through, 724 00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:28,380 get approval, and then assist, and then permits expire after 180 days of no 725 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:32,760 activity with that. So, you know, if it's a large project, your staff could be spending 726 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:37,340 20, 30, 40, 100 hours on some of these large projects. If it's commercial, 727 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,980 no, you don't have a lot of new commercial. You're not building high rises. 728 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,780 Baylor Scott and White's not building a new hospital here necessarily. You're not spending 729 00:58:43,780 --> 00:58:49,940 hundreds of hours with that but 10 projects a month adds up that's a part time 730 00:58:49,940 --> 00:58:53,560 employee. Okay and you also mentioned the timelines and we're not necessarily 731 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:58,460 meeting those. You do benchmarking as far as kind of other cities around or 732 00:58:58,460 --> 00:59:03,220 the multiplex is that going to be in the correct that it be in the and the 150 page 733 00:59:03,220 --> 00:59:07,280 report that city managers spoke about there's some benchmarking for other 734 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,560 communities and comparative analysis with that with what those established 735 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,900 timelines are obviously we didn't dive into their data to understand if they're meeting 736 00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:21,340 those or not. We were able to take the building permitting data that you have, break it down 737 00:59:21,340 --> 00:59:26,860 by year and break it down by whether or not the due date that was in that software download 738 00:59:27,820 --> 00:59:31,600 and the time that the comments were provided back to see if it matter not. There are some 739 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,660 fluctuations over the last three years on that and we broke it down by different functional 740 00:59:35,660 --> 00:59:39,680 group whether that's residential review or commercial review or fire planning and zoning 741 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,300 engineering with that so that that doubles in the detail and some data tables on 742 00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:47,840 that are in the second chapter of the report that you could take a look at to 743 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,420 see where some teams are you know when they turn around on average for a lot of 744 00:59:52,420 --> 00:59:55,720 things and others are a little bit longer with that so there's some good data in 745 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,780 there to really look at and to dissect that with that but from a adopted 746 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,920 The timeline standpoint, North Richland Hills is generally in line with the four comparative communities that we have. This area's pretty general, some other work we've done. Everybody's around the same performance goals and timelines on that you that have been adopted. It's almost kind of a Metroplex. Everybody's doing around the same thing. Obviously, your individual performance varies. Okay, so we're not missing the mark that we're not best in class either. No, there was a couple of nuances that were that we we noticed, but nothing that was 747 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,980 What are you doing, either this is a well above average or well below average with that. 748 01:00:36,180 --> 01:00:39,600 So you're right in the middle almost of that and lining with your peer communities. 749 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,220 Thank you sir, sir. 750 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:42,160 Anybody else? 751 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,260 So I know we've had outward facing issues as far as customer. 752 01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:52,680 And the portal has been one of the clunky things in the conversation that people struggling with how to use and stuff. 753 01:00:53,460 --> 01:00:57,920 I know we addressed some of the communication issues so that not only the contractor but 754 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,980 the resident is also getting the communications so that there's no miscommunication 755 01:01:02,980 --> 01:01:07,940 between what the contractor says they may have may not done versus what was really done. 756 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,640 Not that that could happen. 757 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:16,180 And so I know, but you also talked about the auto-generating of communications. 758 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,760 That's going to be part of that all the time which put in. 759 01:01:20,540 --> 01:01:20,700 Correct. 760 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,360 We made some recommendations on some of those audit communications where if it is completeness 761 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,820 check your staff's not having to go in there and type up an email and say Aaron, you submitted 762 01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:32,460 all your application materials. We deemed it complete. We're going to start our review now. 763 01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:37,240 It can be automatic generated and say your application has been deemed complete. We're accepting 764 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,540 it for review with that or even on the back end when you get all the review comments. You 765 01:01:42,540 --> 01:01:47,000 get them on the plan set or you get a comment letter in the back end of the system. It can 766 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,120 be reviewed for content. Yes, everything's good. There's no conflection between the building 767 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,940 in code and a fire code. We're good to send this comment out. You press a button. 768 01:01:55,720 --> 01:02:00,980 It automatically generates an email to the applicants. Say, hey, your review comments are ready. 769 01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:03,040 Please log into your portal to review them. 770 01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:07,480 There's some manual steps right now that staff are doing with that. And then also, 771 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,020 at least more automatic reporting on the back end where you hear some of those complaints 772 01:02:11,020 --> 01:02:15,100 with that. Staff can easily go in here and say, hey, we sent an email in this state. This state, 773 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,720 this state, we haven't received recent middle. And it's very clear that 774 01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:24,200 Something is a mess hasn't been resummitted or we actually didn't see this one in the queue. 775 01:02:24,460 --> 01:02:27,660 We skipped it as staff for some reason and you could do that due diligence. 776 01:02:28,140 --> 01:02:29,160 Okay, good. 777 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:38,200 So the other is not only here in just a permit fee but also probably like an application fee on the front end for things that don't make it far, but we spend a lot of time on it. 778 01:02:38,620 --> 01:02:48,520 I think that's where you should focus on the money going there versus everyone paying all citizens paying for someone that's generating work, but not actually getting work product. 779 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,680 because we're not getting to the end. 780 01:02:51,180 --> 01:02:57,780 Just kind of generally say, you did a current state processing map mapping. 781 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,040 Did you do a future state or suggest it on that? 782 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:07,680 To be, we actually did not do that, most of the recommendations that we made to process 783 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,620 improvement were some of those like recent middle things with that. 784 01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:15,200 It's not something that you could really capture in that process diagram or as a technology 785 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:15,840 improvement. 786 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:33,220 So it's so nuanced that those process diagrams did not capture that 2B process as part of that and so we did not create that 2B process diagram for many of for the right for the 8 to 10 processes that we outline as their current state. 787 01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:41,440 So, just kind of overall, because I saw a lot of cost recovery opportunities, basis 788 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:42,580 cleaves, what you mentioned. 789 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:50,060 But would you say on these two audits that you've done so far with us, they are kind 790 01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:54,600 of indicative of what you've seen and other ones that you've done as well? 791 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,900 I mean, I know each one is a custom case, right? 792 01:03:58,180 --> 01:04:03,140 And so you see different things, but would you say it's better, worse, where do you 793 01:04:03,140 --> 01:04:13,060 Where do you see it in the spectrum of kind of the outcomes and the suggestions of kind of what you've done before or kind of normal or average on what you've done with reports? 794 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,040 I can't speak to the fleet side because I was not intimately involved in that. 795 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:23,180 On the permitting side, North Richland Hills, as is, as you have been right now, you're above average, well above average. 796 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,520 A lot of the tweaks said that we make and recommendations we make are more smoothing out the edges, 797 01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:34,180 getting the sandpaper out, working on, refining some of the internal stuff that 798 01:04:34,180 --> 01:04:38,340 workflows within the permitting software system. You have strong performance. 799 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,880 You have a strong team, as I mentioned on one of the points, strong customer 800 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:49,880 service, that was noted by our team having conversations but also confirmed in the 801 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,780 focus group conversations that customer service out there. Yes, people are gonna 802 01:04:53,780 --> 01:04:58,560 have complaints. A lot of the feedback that we had, very strong, very positive 803 01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:59,680 of overall sentiment. 804 01:05:00,050 --> 01:05:29,810 With the survey analysis. A lot of your stuff is really internal, looking at how can we make the software system better? How can we provide customer service out there? When you start looking at permitting, you have two groups, you have the mom and pops, you have the businesses, you have the homeowners, you have the residents here, who have very little experience with dealing with the city and the regulatory environment versus the developers that deal with this as a full-time job. There are submitting applications all over the metropolitan, all over the country, with that. 805 01:05:29,810 --> 01:05:36,570 You have two customer groups that have different skill sets, and you have to balance out that customer service, and that's very difficult. 806 01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:43,490 Overall, you have a lot of strengths in your organization, based on our findings and analysis, to serve both customers. 807 01:05:44,250 --> 01:05:51,270 Can my mother come in and get a building permit? What would be her perspective versus me who's been in planning and development for 18 years with that? 808 01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:56,150 So, putting me on the spot, you're well-loved, average on what you're doing and it serves 809 01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:56,630 you providing. 810 01:05:56,830 --> 01:06:00,830 Yes, you've got some timeline hiccups, you've got some challenges around that for consistency 811 01:06:00,830 --> 01:06:08,690 and performance, but you're still overall, you're meeting your timeline goals, 80% of time 812 01:06:08,690 --> 01:06:13,110 on residential commercial applications, for that much stronger than many other communities 813 01:06:13,110 --> 01:06:19,070 we work in, when they take you 12 weeks to get a single family home apartment, which it's 814 01:06:19,070 --> 01:06:19,570 not the case here. 815 01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:23,010 I believe that's what we've been hearing over the last couple of years. 816 01:06:23,110 --> 01:06:25,370 A lot of things have been addressed that hadn't been in the past. 817 01:06:25,950 --> 01:06:32,370 I think the one-stop shock with the FAQs or whatever that would go with that will be 818 01:06:32,370 --> 01:06:38,150 very helpful because people get a little confused of, I'm coming in for a permit, I can't 819 01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:43,230 get a permit and getting information about not being able to get a permit and then finding 820 01:06:43,230 --> 01:06:47,030 out what's because they need to get plated, but nobody told them that they need to be plated 821 01:06:47,030 --> 01:06:49,050 because some of these property they've never planted before. 822 01:06:49,290 --> 01:06:52,410 You know, so there's some confusion there of where do I start 823 01:06:52,410 --> 01:06:53,990 in this continuum, right? 824 01:06:54,790 --> 01:06:59,070 And I know that for claims to have the one stop shop page on there, 825 01:06:59,110 --> 01:07:01,350 so I won't comment whether they do or not, because I don't know. 826 01:07:03,130 --> 01:07:05,650 But I will say this from my expectations, 827 01:07:05,650 --> 01:07:08,930 perspective, and what you have, I've preached a lot as far 828 01:07:08,930 --> 01:07:11,310 as the whole idea of what an efficiency audit is. 829 01:07:11,430 --> 01:07:12,930 A lot of efficiency audits in the past. 830 01:07:13,450 --> 01:07:15,890 So I did operational side of stuff for a long time. 831 01:07:17,150 --> 01:07:22,830 And the expectations usually end up, people come with the idea that there's a panacea that 832 01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:27,450 goes with efficiency audit that we're going to find gold and there's going to be a leprechaun 833 01:07:27,450 --> 01:07:28,130 there with it, right? 834 01:07:28,590 --> 01:07:30,210 And the reality is that's not really how it works. 835 01:07:30,310 --> 01:07:33,850 Usually, the stuff we had, and I was in the college and university space with the United 836 01:07:33,850 --> 01:07:36,610 Health Care, so it's large organization, obviously. 837 01:07:37,570 --> 01:07:48,290 And everything that we defined as what we needed to get to always required a large IT investment normally. 838 01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:54,650 And we rolled to a significant amount of self service, again, I've retired three years ago. 839 01:07:54,710 --> 01:08:01,050 So before really the whole AI, I think kicked off, it was more branching and scripting in those days. 840 01:08:01,050 --> 01:08:08,630 And you never you never you never staffed for peak right because then you've got a lot of downtime 841 01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:16,390 So you always try to manage, you know, when's your peak but the reality is what we're getting out of this has meant my 842 01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:21,690 Expectations of what improvements, but there are some cost recovery and some opportunities there fleet 843 01:08:21,690 --> 01:08:27,890 What we'll see I think I only heard money in that one that I need to spend versus not the other way around 844 01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:35,430 But the reality is, for people to come back, I just, I'm in setting expectations and 845 01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:38,190 thanking what this has come to us. 846 01:08:38,310 --> 01:08:45,290 I mean, we have to squeeze the juice out of the lemon now, because that's what you're giving us a documentation to do that. 847 01:08:45,890 --> 01:08:51,390 But I don't believe that I'd look at it as the panacea, we're going to just save all this money and all the taxes are going to go down now. 848 01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:56,050 So I kind of hope everybody else has the same kind of that this is kind of met the 849 01:08:56,050 --> 01:09:02,210 expectations of what we are looking for out of these, I mean, IT, IT is always a mess, 850 01:09:02,530 --> 01:09:03,630 so I'm just kidding. 851 01:09:04,410 --> 01:09:06,390 And so there's a lot to do there. 852 01:09:06,910 --> 01:09:13,350 But no, just in saying that it's not something that this is something that I believe 853 01:09:13,350 --> 01:09:18,570 that's workable someone to go with, but it's that I think there's some people have different 854 01:09:18,570 --> 01:09:22,950 expectations that don't understand an efficiency audit and this is kind of 855 01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:26,550 met mine as well. And they usually always call it investment but they have large 856 01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:33,050 savings over a long periods of time. And I think also the context of 857 01:09:33,050 --> 01:09:36,670 efficiency audit, you mentioned the Ford example. When you are manufacturing 858 01:09:36,670 --> 01:09:40,470 something that's much different in government and a regulatory environment, 859 01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:43,610 something that you're that sort of required to do whether it's in your local 860 01:09:43,610 --> 01:09:47,250 code or it's coming out of Austin or even the federal government that you have 861 01:09:47,250 --> 01:09:52,730 something to do and how do you do that is you've got some restrictions on that you just can't say 862 01:09:52,730 --> 01:09:58,110 oh we're going to access process with that or and doing that so you're correct and as part of 863 01:09:58,110 --> 01:09:59,810 our recommendations, there is. 864 01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:29,050 With each recommendation, what enhancement our efficiency is gained from that is noted with each recommendation. So it's either customer service or more predictable timeline or enhancement of service or whatever it is. So you'll see that with each of those recommendations as part of the 360 recommendations for permitting study. Thank you. So I just just in summary, that's, you know, I've been kind of beating that drum since we started this, that these aren't necessarily about cost savings. 865 01:10:29,050 --> 01:10:36,710 there about process improvement, and so that's really what Matrix has done here. 866 01:10:36,930 --> 01:10:39,930 They've done a deep dive into both fleet and permitting. 867 01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:44,670 We knew there was a lot of room for improvement in both of these areas, which is why these are 868 01:10:44,670 --> 01:10:50,350 the ones we suggested to do on the permitting side to your question, Calvin, about the software. 869 01:10:51,070 --> 01:10:55,530 So you might recall that about three years ago, and we started the implementation into this 870 01:10:55,530 --> 01:11:02,550 inter-gov software. Before that, we were on really, I mean, I think it just only can be described as an ancient system. 871 01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:06,750 It was still green screen, and we were doing much of our processing by hand. 872 01:11:07,370 --> 01:11:14,030 So one of the things I would also say is that this lean training we've all been going through has really helped. 873 01:11:14,290 --> 01:11:20,910 And it has helped as they're going through this process as well when we were implementing this software. 874 01:11:20,910 --> 01:11:28,470 The intent was to map the process and they put into the new system, the process that we needed. 875 01:11:28,910 --> 01:11:30,110 I'm not sure that that's occurred. 876 01:11:30,870 --> 01:11:37,550 And so we have, I would say that the software we have right now, we're not utilizing it to its full capacity. 877 01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:44,190 I think there's some modules that we need to look at implementing and then there's some changes we need to make. 878 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:48,670 I would say that and the staff will laugh when they hear me say this because I say it a lot. 879 01:11:48,670 --> 01:11:53,190 It has been a lot, the tail wagging the dog in terms of this is what the software can 880 01:11:53,190 --> 01:11:56,830 do and then we just say it was set up this way, we can't change it. 881 01:11:57,090 --> 01:12:00,810 That is one of the things that's already in progress as I know we're working closely 882 01:12:00,810 --> 01:12:06,450 with IT and with our software vendor to begin to incorporate some of these changes that we 883 01:12:06,450 --> 01:12:07,950 know need to be made. 884 01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:14,650 So it's been a journey but I think that you've got the right team in place to kind of improve 885 01:12:14,650 --> 01:12:16,170 these internal processes. 886 01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:29,210 so anyway. So there was you'll 40 some odd I guess recommendations or whatever that number was. Are those ranked in there as far as kind of ease of implementation or kind of this thing for a bag or 887 01:12:29,210 --> 01:12:36,970 loading and fruit? They're ranked kind of like in order of steps like if you're going to do this you first you need to do these things first. 888 01:12:37,870 --> 01:12:43,750 And I think it's kind of like that on both sides and in terms of you know these are the recommendations we would make. 889 01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:49,110 These are the ones that would need to happen before certain other ones, but mainly they don't focus on 890 01:12:49,730 --> 01:12:57,890 The way you might think of bang for your bucket buck in terms of ROI. It's really more. What is the impact of it as Aaron was mentioning 891 01:12:57,890 --> 01:13:02,970 They'll say this improves your customer service. This improves this right right so 892 01:13:04,270 --> 01:13:12,010 So what you'll see again in the permitting side as well as as we move forward and also the other thing under under in progress right now is that 893 01:13:12,010 --> 01:13:17,650 that fee review and looking and we'll be bringing to you some recommendations in the first 894 01:13:17,650 --> 01:13:23,930 part of of of 26. I'm going to say in the first six months, Corey sent me something that 895 01:13:23,930 --> 01:13:29,570 she felt like she would do it in the first quarter. I think that's a little aggressive but 896 01:13:29,570 --> 01:13:36,570 that that fee survey and review is already underway. So we're hoping to for sure have it done 897 01:13:36,570 --> 01:13:40,970 by the time we're bringing to you budget recommendations so that we can go ahead and then setting those 898 01:13:40,970 --> 01:13:45,970 cost recovery goals. That's something that we've done in some other fee-generating areas. 899 01:13:46,150 --> 01:13:50,750 We've never really looked at that way on the development review side. And so, you'll 900 01:13:50,750 --> 01:13:55,050 see those incorporated into our recommendations on that. 901 01:13:56,750 --> 01:14:02,050 Anybody else? So, sometimes these are like an IRS audit. You want to know that you got 902 01:14:02,050 --> 01:14:05,010 it mostly right. And it sounds like we got it mostly right. 903 01:14:05,010 --> 01:14:06,250 There you go. 904 01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:16,530 All right. Next item is the future agenda. The purposes item is to allow the City Council. Thank you, Aaron. Sorry, I was being rude there. 905 01:14:17,410 --> 01:14:24,250 The purpose item is to allow City Council an opportunity to bring forward a proposal to put an item in the issue they wish to discuss on a future agenda. 906 01:14:25,390 --> 01:14:32,250 In accordance with the TechSoup means Act, any discussion shall be limited to the proposed to the place and the item on the, to place the item on the future agenda. 907 01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:35,830 the Council shall not vote or take any action on the items during the meeting. 908 01:14:36,090 --> 01:14:38,950 Council, do you have any proposals or items that you'd like to put on the future agenda? 909 01:14:39,690 --> 01:14:41,030 Seeing none, we will move on. 910 01:14:41,610 --> 01:14:43,710 Paulette, the City Manager's report. 911 01:14:44,930 --> 01:14:45,730 Thank you, Mayor. 912 01:14:46,170 --> 01:14:54,450 I just wanted to let you know we are working, let's see, first on the CEC Food and Toy Drive. 913 01:14:54,450 --> 01:14:59,970 We are working closely with the CEC and then also our fire department who... 914 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980 It leads, usually, it's really just focused on a toy drive this time of year. I know the CEC has been talking with our chief and the area chiefs about also shifting that focus to food, and then the city itself, I don't like to separate city side fire place. I don't like to do that, but the city is going to become more involved in that, and you'll start to see some bins placed at city hall and different facilities to assist in not just the toy drive, but also the 915 01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:37,900 food drive to help meet the demand that our CEC and other food pantries are facing right 916 01:15:37,900 --> 01:15:45,720 now. So I just wanted to make you aware of that. Also we always participate in Christmas 917 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:51,540 providers and I haven't said that information out to the council yet but we have families 918 01:15:51,540 --> 01:15:56,920 that different departments are adopting and so we'll ask the council to participate with 919 01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:02,660 us in that as well so I'll be getting that information out to you all. Any 920 01:16:02,660 --> 01:16:07,500 questions about that or okay and then on just holiday events we do have lots 921 01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:11,240 of things coming up. We have our Veterans Day event tomorrow which is not 922 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:15,920 necessarily a holiday event but it's a one of our favorite traditions that we do 923 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:21,180 here to honor our veterans and so that's tomorrow November 11th at 11 a.m. here at 924 01:16:21,180 --> 01:16:28,140 City Hall. Our tree lighting is December 4th at 6 o'clock. I guess we call it stormy 925 01:16:28,140 --> 01:16:34,820 plaza over there. So that'll be a good event. We also have on December 6th, run, run, 926 01:16:34,820 --> 01:16:42,120 root off 5K. It starts at 8 a.m. at the NRH Center. And then on December 11th we have stories 927 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:48,860 with Santa at the library at 5 p.m. And then on December 16th at the library we have Flutusimo, 928 01:16:48,860 --> 01:16:56,680 which is Flutes playing holiday music at 6.30 and just check out the library events page. 929 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,800 You know, they always have all kinds of neat things going on. 930 01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:03,000 There's several crafts and different things going on in December. 931 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:08,220 So I just wanted to make the community aware of all the different things that they can take 932 01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:13,680 advantage of at no cost to them to participate in these events. 933 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,460 Thank you. 934 01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:23,380 I'm sorry, that is the fundraiser, that is not freeway. 935 01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:36,470 So we'll now be moving into executive session, it is 617 on November 10, 2025, to consider matters authorized by the Texas government code. 936 01:17:36,930 --> 01:17:50,450 Section 551-071, consultation with the city's attorney to seek advice about pending or contemplate litigation on or are on a matter in which the duty of this attorney of the governmental body is under the Texas disciplinary rules of professional conduct for 937 01:17:50,450 --> 01:17:55,570 of the State Bar of Texas, clearly conflicts with the Texas Ominis Act, number one, with 938 01:17:55,570 --> 01:18:03,770 just a good fill, versus the City of North Richardson Hills at all, cause number 352-366-545-25 939 01:18:04,050 --> 01:18:12,510 and two, which is chapter 551, the government code, section 551-072, deliberate purchase exchange, 940 01:18:13,350 --> 01:18:19,930 lease or value of real estate, real property, sorry, at 88-51, but 941 01:18:19,930 --> 01:18:24,190 Jensen Drive, 6020 Walker Boulevard in 1915, Grand Avenue. 942 01:18:24,810 --> 01:18:49,910 Section 5510-87, deliberation regarding the Economic Development Negotiations, 8851 by Jensen Drive, 6020 Walker Boulevard in 1915, Grand Avenue and deliberation regarding the commercial or financial information that the government body has received from the business prospect, that the government body seeks to have to locate, stay or expand in, or near the territory of the state. 943 01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:54,290 the city in which the governmental body is conducting economic development negotiations 944 01:18:54,290 --> 01:18:59,610 or regarding the offer of a financial or other incentive to such a business prospect 945 01:18:59,610 --> 01:19:07,430 4401 city point drive and 8800 mid cities boulevard we'll see you in executive session. 946 01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:23,440 Okay, good, okay, 20 seconds, you know about ready, everybody ready? 947 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:24,120 I'm right here. 948 01:19:24,700 --> 01:19:25,180 Ricky? 949 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:26,600 Yeah, good work. 950 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,220 Short timer. 951 01:19:27,480 --> 01:19:27,680 Good. 952 01:19:28,020 --> 01:19:28,720 Put it over there. 953 01:19:29,860 --> 01:19:31,080 It says he'll sit down. 954 01:19:33,550 --> 01:19:34,210 Five seconds. 955 01:19:34,410 --> 01:19:35,330 Yeah, he's not coming to that. 956 01:19:35,370 --> 01:19:35,550 Okay. 957 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,740 Alicia, you ready? 958 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:48,540 Good. 959 01:19:50,890 --> 01:19:51,250 Okay. 960 01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:15,230 Good 961 01:20:29,660 --> 01:20:54,960 evening. Welcome to the northwards and hills, city council meeting. It is seven o'clock, and I will call the November 10, 2025 city council meeting to order. The quorum of the city council is present. And the meeting has been duly posted in court. It's with the Texas meetings act. The Texas government code. We will start with item a one and two. It's the invocation in the pledge. Councilmember Mitchell will lead us and I invite you to join us in prayer as well as the pledge to the United States and Texas 962 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,420 fight as you choose. 963 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:06,260 All you do for us thank you for allowing me to serve again on the City Council 964 01:21:06,260 --> 01:21:12,420 and getting to be part of what goes on in our great city and I just thank you that our city is 965 01:21:12,420 --> 01:21:16,220 one of the best cities around here. I mean it's because of the people we have 966 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,300 working for us here and the ones that represent us and the one that serve us and we ask that you 967 01:21:21,300 --> 01:21:26,820 put a hand of protection around the police, the fire, the medical, their jobs are so dangerous 968 01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:33,220 sometimes Lord and we just ask that you just protect them and make sure that they get home safely 969 01:21:33,220 --> 01:21:39,520 every day. Thank you for the administration and the staff that we have that do so well representing 970 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:45,360 our citizens and our city and that they make things so much easier to do business with us and 971 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,840 that God would just thank you that we've been blessed with the group that you've blessed us with. 972 01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:55,420 We ask that you be with us as we go into a Thanksgiving period this month and thank you that you 973 01:21:55,420 --> 01:22:01,300 for your grace and your mercy that you continually showed us. Let us not take advantage of any situation, 974 01:22:01,480 --> 01:22:05,640 let us think wisely about what we're doing, probably about our decisions, and make sure that 975 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:10,280 the decisions we make are the ones we do want us to make. Thank you again for letting us serve, 976 01:22:10,780 --> 01:22:14,280 and thank you that you're going to be with us as we go forward and we ask that in Jesus name. 977 01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:23,100 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it 978 01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:29,720 stands one condition under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 979 01:22:30,140 --> 01:22:39,020 Fix its flag, on the next flag, I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God, one. 980 01:22:45,690 --> 01:22:50,030 Moving on to public comments, it's an opportunity for citizens to address City Council matters 981 01:22:50,030 --> 01:22:53,730 which are scheduled the agenda for consideration by the City Council but not scheduled for a public 982 01:22:53,730 --> 01:22:53,990 caring. 983 01:22:54,530 --> 01:22:58,210 In order to address City Council during the public comments, public meeting appearance form must 984 01:22:58,210 --> 01:23:01,910 be completed and presented to the city secretary prior to the start of city council meeting. 985 01:23:02,190 --> 01:23:02,590 Do we have anyone? 986 01:23:02,890 --> 01:23:03,270 No mayor. 987 01:23:03,770 --> 01:23:05,470 Having none, we'll move on to the next item. 988 01:23:06,590 --> 01:23:11,130 This is a chance for the council to remove an item from the consent agenda. 989 01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:13,730 Council, do you have any items you want to remove from the consent agenda? 990 01:23:15,370 --> 01:23:16,130 Seeing none. 991 01:23:16,850 --> 01:23:17,730 Next item be. 992 01:23:18,130 --> 01:23:21,470 Item's listed on the consent agenda and consider routine and require a little no deliberation 993 01:23:21,470 --> 01:23:21,990 by the council. 994 01:23:22,530 --> 01:23:25,690 For the audience's information list, those items on the consent agenda will appear on the 995 01:23:25,690 --> 01:23:26,050 screen. 996 01:23:27,930 --> 01:23:29,830 I'd like to call for a motion. 997 01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:34,470 Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the consent agenda as presented. 998 01:23:35,170 --> 01:23:36,230 Thank you, Councilmember DiPri. 999 01:23:36,690 --> 01:23:38,090 I think Councilmember Mitchell for the second. 1000 01:23:38,370 --> 01:23:38,750 Any discussion? 1001 01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:42,970 Call the question, please vote. 1002 01:23:50,350 --> 01:23:51,610 Passes 6-0. 1003 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:55,720 Next one is public hearing. 1004 01:23:56,980 --> 01:24:00,960 ZC-25-0-147, ordinance 39-35. 1005 01:24:02,140 --> 01:24:03,800 Public hearing, consideration for the request of. 1006 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:25,680 Plant and Pro renovations LLC for a special use permit for a permanent accessory building, 6918 Walter Street being one acre described as a lot to block one Clifton edition of the public hearing for the ordinance and all in Clayton has been to introduce the item. 1007 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:26,600 Thank 1008 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,740 you mayor. This application is for a special use permit. This is for a permanent 1009 01:24:37,740 --> 01:24:42,780 accessory building, one acre at 16918 Walters Street. This is on the east side of 1010 01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:47,840 Walter, just south of Amonson. They're in their crane road. They're highlighted in 1011 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:53,460 green on the map. So view of the house looking from Walters Street. This is a 1012 01:24:53,460 --> 01:24:57,860 currently has a house, pool, cabana, in the backyard area. There's a proposed 1013 01:24:57,860 --> 01:24:59,860 building on the south side of the property. 1014 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:16,660 This is an area designated for low-density residential. You can see the property highlighted. They were the green star. Properties currently is on residential estate, RE1. This application will not change the zoning on the property, but we just authorize another building on the site as proposed. 1015 01:25:18,940 --> 01:25:23,060 With that, the applicant is here to address the council. We'll follow up with the recommendation from Planning and Zoning Commission. 1016 01:25:30,230 --> 01:25:31,870 Please state your name and address for the record. 1017 01:25:35,740 --> 01:25:38,640 Good evening. My name is Andrew Brutucci. 1018 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,960 3, address 6, 9, 1, 8, Walter Street. 1019 01:25:42,020 --> 01:25:49,380 We're asking for a special use room for 2174 square foot accessory building. 1020 01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:53,600 We're asking for 13 foot walls so we can put a 12 foot garage door on there. 1021 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,060 It's going to be in the rear of the building. 1022 01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,280 It's going to have one restroom located in it. 1023 01:26:04,860 --> 01:26:07,960 Yeah, if you guys have any questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them. 1024 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:10,640 So you may have a question to applicant. 1025 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:13,640 I will apply it. 1026 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:14,440 Thank you. 1027 01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:18,340 Now the staff and the PNZ recommendation. 1028 01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,540 Yes sir, just to summarize this application for this building located on the south side 1029 01:26:23,540 --> 01:26:24,100 of the property. 1030 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:29,320 Parts of the building do exceed some of the requirements for accessory structures, for permanent accessory 1031 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:30,000 structures. 1032 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,000 Those are shown here on this slide. 1033 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,180 The maximum square footage is permitted on the lot by right is at a little over a thousand 1034 01:26:38,180 --> 01:26:38,780 square feet. 1035 01:26:38,780 --> 01:26:47,520 This building has a footprint of 2,500 square feet, a little bit more than that, but that also includes covered porch areas and garage space and bathroom space within the building. 1036 01:26:48,100 --> 01:26:51,220 Building just slightly taller than what the permitted requirements are. 1037 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,380 And one item to note too is there is an existing pool house on the property. 1038 01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,680 The existing cabana, that building is a little bit over 200 square feet, so that qualifies as a permanent accessory building. 1039 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:07,700 And this proposed request would incorporate that allowance into the proposal for the existing building. 1040 01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:17,600 I think so. Two buildings would be provided instead of just the one that's permitted by right planning zone of commission held their public hearing on October 16th recommended approval by unanimous vote. 1041 01:27:18,060 --> 01:27:25,560 If there's any questions about the project, we're happy to answer those at this time. Any questions of staff? No. Thank you. 1042 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:30,680 Like this is a public hearing and I've already opened the public hearing at this time. 1043 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:35,760 I'll ask the city secretary if she has any request to speak at the public hearing now there seeing none if there's 1044 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,300 like anyone in the audience that would like to speak as well to sport or opposition. 1045 01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:40,880 There's quit police approach podium 1046 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,260 being none. 1047 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,920 I'll close the public hearing city council for a master of motion. 1048 01:27:47,060 --> 01:27:49,600 Is there any clarifying questions or requested additional information? 1049 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,280 Not seeing any call for motion. 1050 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,300 I make a motion that we approve ordinance number 3935. 1051 01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:58,480 Second. 1052 01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:00,020 Thank you. 1053 01:28:00,980 --> 01:28:02,340 Councilmember Robertson. 1054 01:28:02,820 --> 01:28:04,120 Councilmember Rodriguez. 1055 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:05,100 Any discussion? 1056 01:28:06,660 --> 01:28:07,740 Call for motion. 1057 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:08,160 Please vote. 1058 01:28:12,610 --> 01:28:13,810 Passes 6-0. 1059 01:28:14,330 --> 01:28:17,470 Moving on to item zc25-0146. 1060 01:28:18,350 --> 01:28:19,630 Ordinance 3936. 1061 01:28:19,870 --> 01:28:20,250 Public carrying. 1062 01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:21,190 Consideration for request. 1063 01:28:21,190 --> 01:28:42,190 Cambridge Northridge and Hills Development LLC for revision of the plan development 120 at 7,000 iron horse boulevard being 5.01 acres described as lots 1 through 18 and lots 1 x and 2 x block 1 Cambridge Manor open the public hearing for ordnance 3936 call and claim has been again to introduce the item. 1064 01:28:43,730 --> 01:28:50,410 Thank you, sir. This is a zoning change that's a revision to an existing plan development for the Cambridge Manor subdivision. 1065 01:28:51,190 --> 01:28:56,610 that's located there on the south eastern side of Iron Horse Boulevard, just east of Roof Snow. 1066 01:28:57,150 --> 01:29:01,670 There's 18 lots in this subdivision. There's a street that runs between Iron Horse and Trinidad 1067 01:29:01,670 --> 01:29:06,750 Drive. This is a little bit older photograph of looking south from Iron Horse Boulevard. You can 1068 01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:08,270 see the development there around the curve. 1069 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,560 And the application is primarily to amend one standard 1070 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:19,940 regarding fencing in the property. And this is in this area here looking north from Trinidad Drive. 1071 01:29:19,940 --> 01:29:23,760 This is the western portion of the property adjacent to the bank property. 1072 01:29:23,820 --> 01:29:26,200 You can see the drive-through area there on the left side of the photograph. 1073 01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,620 This is an area that the land use plan designated for office commercial, but it was rezoned 1074 01:29:31,620 --> 01:29:35,280 to residential in 2023 through an RIPD. 1075 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,880 The zoning map on the right shows that particular layout and this application is just to revise 1076 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,260 one of the standards within the PD. 1077 01:29:44,700 --> 01:29:47,840 Applicants here this evening to present the item and we'll follow up with the recommendation 1078 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:48,900 from Planning and Zoning Commission. 1079 01:29:49,740 --> 01:29:49,980 Thank you. 1080 01:29:50,220 --> 01:29:50,440 Yes, sir. 1081 01:29:52,980 --> 01:29:54,720 You'll state your name and arrest for the record, please. 1082 01:29:55,340 --> 01:29:59,820 Yes, Bill Hardy, 11937, Carlin Drive, Fort Worth. 1083 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,700 Texas. Really, what we want to do is 1084 01:30:07,710 --> 01:30:32,990 have a better shield for the homeowners directly across the street. Right now, it's set up to have a rot iron fence. And it's going to be a lot of visual impact to the neighbors across the street. So our desire is to have less of an impact visually and also delete some of that sound that will be coming from the drive. We've been out there numerous times. A lot of traffic comes through there with the drive up. And we just like to shield that. 1085 01:30:32,990 --> 01:30:38,910 more for the neighborhood area. This is the type of fence we're looking at, and that 1086 01:30:38,910 --> 01:30:46,370 was recommended by a member of the P and Z on the 18th of October, and we do this type 1087 01:30:46,370 --> 01:30:52,170 of fence already, so we'd like to have a recommendation to do this fence in front of 1088 01:30:52,170 --> 01:30:53,870 that area of the drive-through of the bank. 1089 01:30:54,570 --> 01:30:56,190 Okay, any questions, applicant? 1090 01:30:57,010 --> 01:30:57,910 No. Thank you. 1091 01:30:57,910 --> 01:30:58,730 That was good. 1092 01:31:00,290 --> 01:31:01,730 I'll call on staff for the PNZ recommendation. 1093 01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:03,650 Thank you. 1094 01:31:03,650 --> 01:31:04,050 Yes, sir. 1095 01:31:04,150 --> 01:31:08,570 So this application would just modify one standard in the plan development district and 1096 01:31:08,570 --> 01:31:13,050 that would be for this fence area between Glenda Drive and the bank property. 1097 01:31:14,450 --> 01:31:18,810 So replace that ornamental fence requirement with a solid fence allowance. 1098 01:31:19,230 --> 01:31:22,530 In addition to that, there is a quite a bit of landscaping that will be constructed in 1099 01:31:22,530 --> 01:31:23,030 that area. 1100 01:31:23,450 --> 01:31:29,410 So over time, the area will look a little bit different is that landscaping 1101 01:31:29,410 --> 01:31:33,950 matures and the maintenance of this type of fence is a little bit superior to just 1102 01:31:33,950 --> 01:31:37,250 the standard wooden fence. These are just photographs looking at the 1103 01:31:37,250 --> 01:31:41,290 property from a couple of different directions. If you were in the lots across the 1104 01:31:41,290 --> 01:31:44,190 street, I'm going to drive. This would be the view that you would see along that area, 1105 01:31:44,450 --> 01:31:49,970 about 280 feet, and then looking north and then view from the drive-through 1106 01:31:49,970 --> 01:31:52,310 parking lot looking back at the houses just for context. 1107 01:31:54,070 --> 01:31:55,250 I'm playing zoning commission. 1108 01:31:55,410 --> 01:31:58,890 Did their public hearing on October 16th recommended approval by unanimous vote. 1109 01:31:59,330 --> 01:32:01,730 We're happy to answer any questions about the project at this time. 1110 01:32:02,730 --> 01:32:03,830 Any questions or staff? 1111 01:32:04,450 --> 01:32:04,570 Okay. 1112 01:32:06,130 --> 01:32:07,030 I like the fans. 1113 01:32:07,070 --> 01:32:08,390 I've never seen one like that before. 1114 01:32:08,690 --> 01:32:12,970 Who's responsible for like the upkeep of the boards and, you know, the wear and tear over time? 1115 01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:14,650 There will be a homeowner association maintenance. 1116 01:32:14,850 --> 01:32:14,970 Okay. 1117 01:32:15,130 --> 01:32:19,270 Yes, this is on an open space lot that will be owned by the associations that they'd be responsible for all the maintenance. 1118 01:32:19,970 --> 01:32:20,210 Thank you. 1119 01:32:20,450 --> 01:32:20,770 Sir. 1120 01:32:20,910 --> 01:32:21,410 Any other questions? 1121 01:32:23,210 --> 01:32:23,770 Seeing none. 1122 01:32:24,010 --> 01:32:24,550 Thank you, Clayton. 1123 01:32:24,650 --> 01:32:26,550 This is Public Hearing. 1124 01:32:26,690 --> 01:32:27,830 I've already opened the Public Hearing. 1125 01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:29,210 At this time, I see the Secretary. 1126 01:32:29,370 --> 01:32:30,350 Has anyone requested to speak? 1127 01:32:30,970 --> 01:32:31,550 No, Mayor. 1128 01:32:32,230 --> 01:32:34,170 Seeing none, I'll look to the audience. 1129 01:32:34,490 --> 01:32:37,890 Is anyone wishes to speak or support opposition of the request? 1130 01:32:38,110 --> 01:32:39,490 If so, please approach the podium. 1131 01:32:42,820 --> 01:32:44,200 Seeing none, I'll close the Public Hearing. 1132 01:32:44,380 --> 01:32:45,620 City Council, before I ask for a motion. 1133 01:32:45,740 --> 01:32:50,440 Do you have any clarifying questions or requests for the information from staff? 1134 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:52,980 Seeing none, call for the motion. 1135 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,220 Mayor, I make a motion and we approve ordinance number 3936. 1136 01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:58,500 Encounterman parks. 1137 01:32:58,800 --> 01:32:58,980 Second. 1138 01:32:59,420 --> 01:33:00,520 Thank you, councilmember Rodriguez. 1139 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:02,260 Any discussion? 1140 01:33:03,900 --> 01:33:05,500 Seeing none, call for the question, please vote. 1141 01:33:09,460 --> 01:33:10,520 Passes 6-0. 1142 01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:18,220 Now moving on to item C3, ZC, 25-0148, ordinance 3937. 1143 01:33:18,940 --> 01:33:22,020 Public hearing and consideration for the request of MJ6 1144 01:33:22,020 --> 01:33:27,780 This enterprise is LLC for a zoning change from R3, which is single-family residence 1145 01:33:27,780 --> 01:33:37,340 to residential infill plan development, RIPD at 8217 Sayers Lane, being 0.493 acres, 1146 01:33:37,340 --> 01:33:45,280 described as a lot 15 block 2, Woodburnt Edition, and for, I'll call for public hearing, 1147 01:33:45,500 --> 01:33:48,360 in the ordinance 3937, call for Clayton, as with the introduce, yeah. 1148 01:33:51,190 --> 01:33:53,670 This final item is a zoning change request. 1149 01:33:54,030 --> 01:33:56,330 This is from one single family district to another. 1150 01:33:56,890 --> 01:34:03,850 This may look very familiar because the property adjacent to this went underwent a zoning change a few months ago to the same, same district, same set of standards. 1151 01:34:04,450 --> 01:34:09,330 So this is from the property north side of Sayers Lane, just west of Davis Boulevard. 1152 01:34:10,130 --> 01:34:19,110 This is another one of those long narrow lots along that north side being proposed for a free zoning change from R3 to residential infill plan development for 1153 01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:25,250 the purpose of subdividing the property. This is an area located in a low-density residential 1154 01:34:25,250 --> 01:34:30,810 land use designation. Current zoning is R3. You can see the other properties there along 1155 01:34:30,810 --> 01:34:36,350 Sares Lane, a lot of R3 properties, several PDs and some R2 districts there as well, all single 1156 01:34:36,350 --> 01:34:37,530 family development in that area. 1157 01:34:39,870 --> 01:34:43,010 These reviews, the property is looking from Sares Lane. This is looking 1158 01:34:43,010 --> 01:34:47,670 back east towards Davis Boulevard. The White House there on the left is the subject of the property 1159 01:34:48,250 --> 01:34:54,640 and just looking back west and just for context of the area and these are 1160 01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:59,620 existing houses that were constructed under similar types of standards. So the 1161 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,380 Thank you for receiving to present the item. When they're complete, we'll follow up with a recommendation from planning the zoning commission. 1162 01:35:09,180 --> 01:35:32,760 Please say to your name and address for the record, please. Yes, my name is Jared Goff. I live at 6217 Price Drive in North Wilson Hills. And yeah, we were just here. Seems like a month ago, opportunity came to buy piece property, build a house for our granddaughter, and the neighbor contacted me and my wife and asked if we had an interest in purchasing their property. I am in the home building business, and it was a good opportunity. 1163 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,400 We just want to implement the same PD that was issued before 1164 01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:44,860 Same style of house meeting that PD seem by having questions. I was feeling deja vu when I was looking at this today 1165 01:35:44,860 --> 01:35:52,060 I was wondering who the tech person was though. Were we down here? Was there someone on the that was from tech or TCU last time? 1166 01:35:52,420 --> 01:35:55,300 Yeah, I was a great game. Yes. I was TCU's tech. 1167 01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,140 Wasn't a good weekend 1168 01:35:57,820 --> 01:35:58,260 Yeah, 1169 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:01,780 I don't claim it right this minute. 1170 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,960 You'll have any questions the applicant while he's here. 1171 01:36:05,060 --> 01:36:06,320 Thank you. 1172 01:36:06,420 --> 01:36:07,240 Thank you. 1173 01:36:09,230 --> 01:36:11,150 Clayton by PNZ recommendation. 1174 01:36:11,890 --> 01:36:12,430 Yes, sir. 1175 01:36:12,590 --> 01:36:14,250 So these proposed lots. 1176 01:36:14,330 --> 01:36:16,190 So when they follow through with the planning of the property, 1177 01:36:16,250 --> 01:36:19,530 these lots will be 75 feet wide by 96 and a half feet deep. 1178 01:36:20,090 --> 01:36:23,570 That's one of the standards that's associated with the plan development district. 1179 01:36:24,150 --> 01:36:27,230 Everything else is similar to the one that was approved in August of this year. 1180 01:36:27,230 --> 01:36:32,630 regarding landscaping on the property, providing privacy fences with a certain design, 1181 01:36:33,170 --> 01:36:37,190 minimum 2,000 square foot living area with certain architectural design standards, 1182 01:36:37,890 --> 01:36:41,830 and then some additional private open space in the terms of front porches and 1183 01:36:41,830 --> 01:36:44,870 things provided on the property. So essentially the same standards would 1184 01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:48,850 almost apply to the three lots next door and then the three lots a little bit 1185 01:36:48,850 --> 01:36:51,430 down the street from that. So it's kind of a seamless development just then in 1186 01:36:51,430 --> 01:36:55,610 three different operations. Planning and zoning commission recommended approval of 1187 01:36:55,610 --> 01:36:59,630 This item by unanimous vote at their hearing on October 16th. 1188 01:36:59,690 --> 01:37:02,310 We're happy to answer any questions about this application. 1189 01:37:02,950 --> 01:37:03,670 Any questions, staff? 1190 01:37:04,970 --> 01:37:06,330 Seeing none, thank you, Clayton. 1191 01:37:06,910 --> 01:37:07,650 This is a public hearing. 1192 01:37:07,770 --> 01:37:09,130 I've already out in the public hearing of this town 1193 01:37:09,130 --> 01:37:09,990 on the last city secretary. 1194 01:37:10,170 --> 01:37:11,510 Is there any request to speak at the public hearing? 1195 01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:12,190 No mayor. 1196 01:37:12,810 --> 01:37:14,710 Seeing none, I'll ask if there's anyone in the audience 1197 01:37:14,710 --> 01:37:16,390 who wishes to speak in support of our opposition 1198 01:37:16,390 --> 01:37:18,110 of the request, please approach the podium. 1199 01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:24,360 Seeing none, I will close the public hearing. 1200 01:37:24,620 --> 01:37:25,900 City Council, before I ask for a motion, 1201 01:37:25,900 --> 01:37:32,460 Do you have any clarifying questions or requests for the additional information from staff exactly don't I have any call for the motion? 1202 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,820 I move to approve ordinance number 3937. 1203 01:37:37,580 --> 01:37:38,380 Councilmember Rodriguez 1204 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:40,360 second 1205 01:37:42,950 --> 01:37:45,750 Councilmember parks with second. Thank you. Any discussion? 1206 01:37:47,610 --> 01:37:50,590 Seeing end call for the question, council, please vote passes 1207 01:37:54,370 --> 01:37:55,350 6-0 1208 01:37:56,790 --> 01:37:57,230 So 1209 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,200 we move on to item F 1210 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:05,900 It's 1211 01:38:08,010 --> 01:38:12,390 an opportunity for citizens to address city council matters, which are not. 1212 01:38:12,830 --> 01:38:15,130 We pulled that one from the deal. 1213 01:38:15,810 --> 01:38:22,570 Yes, Mayor, we did, but if you can read that that item's been withdrawn and that there's no further action needed by the city council, please. 1214 01:38:23,850 --> 01:38:25,390 Okay, sorry about that. 1215 01:38:26,530 --> 01:38:35,270 All right, so for item tr25-08, this item was noticed as a public hearing, but the request has been withdrawn. 1216 01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:38,050 there being no action necessary, we will move to the next item. 1217 01:38:41,420 --> 01:38:43,400 Now, the citizens' presentation, this is opportunity for 1218 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,700 assistance to direct city council matters, which are not scheduled for consideration by the city council in order to address. 1219 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:53,740 The council, please complete public appearance, meeting appearance form, and present the city secretary prior to me. 1220 01:38:54,380 --> 01:38:56,160 Do we have anyone that wishes to see? 1221 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:56,780 No mayor. 1222 01:38:57,500 --> 01:39:04,620 Seeing none, we'll move on to the next item, which is general items, Chase. 1223 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:16,780 I took further consideration really, 2025-044, casting 16 votes in allocation to the North-Writz and Hills for one or more candidates in the Tarant appraisal board of directors election. 1224 01:39:17,740 --> 01:39:18,780 Thank you, Mayor. 1225 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:31,300 This is your opportunity to cast the 16 votes that the City of North-Writz and Hills has for one or more of the following nominees for the Tarant appraisal district board of directors. 1226 01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:40,400 Mr. Mike Alfred, Ms. Wendy Burgess, Mr. Eric Crile, Ms. Sayeda, Ms. Sayed. 1227 01:39:42,340 --> 01:39:47,060 Those are the nominees that are before you tonight. 1228 01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:55,200 There's a resolution attached, and once you cast your votes, we will submit that to Tad for voting. 1229 01:39:55,940 --> 01:39:59,560 We also received just I wanted to let you know while you were in work session. 1230 01:39:59,560 --> 01:39:59,960 you 1231 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:27,240 Tad, the Tad staffs, and notice that one of their Board of Directors resigned. And so next meeting there will be an item on your agenda to place another nominee. And I'm sorry I'm trying to, Mr. Allen Blaylock resigned from the board. And his term is set to expire on December 31st of 27, and they'll be accepting nominees. 1232 01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:34,220 December 25th is the date, so it would be the next business day after that. 1233 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,400 So again, an item will be placed on your agenda so it will again seem like deja vu. 1234 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:46,360 But the item before you today is to cast your 16 votes for one or more of the nominees that 1235 01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:46,760 I listed. 1236 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:49,160 Well, I'll call for a motion. 1237 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,660 I move to cast all 16 votes for Mr. Mike Alfred. 1238 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:56,960 Thank you, Council Member Rodriguez. 1239 01:41:01,750 --> 01:41:02,990 Someone like to do a second. 1240 01:41:03,130 --> 01:41:05,070 Thank you, Council Member Mitchell, for the second. 1241 01:41:05,450 --> 01:41:06,090 Any discussion? 1242 01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:09,160 Call the question. 1243 01:41:09,380 --> 01:41:09,960 Council please vote. 1244 01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:16,650 Passes 6-0. 1245 01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:27,040 Item G-2, this is considered rejecting all bids received for 1246 01:41:29,380 --> 01:41:32,860 RFB25-031, the Generator Replacement Project for 1247 01:41:32,860 --> 01:41:34,940 Foundation number 1, 4-N-5. 1248 01:41:37,860 --> 01:41:40,120 Chris is presenting the item there you are. 1249 01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,300 And I was going to say your last name, but I'm Arata. 1250 01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:44,980 I'm Arata. 1251 01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:45,760 I'm Arata. 1252 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:46,420 Thank you. 1253 01:41:46,480 --> 01:41:46,760 There you go. 1254 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,500 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 1255 01:41:49,460 --> 01:41:53,860 Tonight, staff is seeking approval from Council to consider rejecting the bids. 1256 01:41:54,640 --> 01:42:00,020 This project consists of three replacement generators, automatic transfer switches, and all 1257 01:42:00,020 --> 01:42:02,840 these associated construction activities at the following three facilities. 1258 01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:06,840 Fire station number one, fire station number four, and fire station number five. 1259 01:42:10,180 --> 01:42:17,860 Staff received 27 downloads on public purchase and on October 9th, public purchase closed 1260 01:42:17,860 --> 01:42:20,980 with five contractors submitting bids. 1261 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,860 You can see the range from $7.6 million to $2.4 million. 1262 01:42:25,820 --> 01:42:34,940 The city's available budget for the project was approximately 1.9 million or the overage 1263 01:42:34,940 --> 01:42:38,560 On the lowest contractor was the shy of $500,000. 1264 01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:48,530 The proposed next step staff would like to do is we'd like to utilize a cooperative purchasing for the generators and automatic transfer switches. 1265 01:42:48,890 --> 01:42:53,030 We would buy all three of those items, six items, thank 1266 01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:56,360 you. 1267 01:42:57,700 --> 01:43:04,480 We've proposed to bring that back to city council on December, in December 8th, 2025. 1268 01:43:04,940 --> 01:43:12,820 And then in March, we would go out for another RFB for just a labor material and necessary tools for the installation of the city provided equipment. 1269 01:43:13,060 --> 01:43:16,740 At this time, I can't answer any questions, y'all, I have any questions now. 1270 01:43:20,670 --> 01:43:27,550 So I assume that was just all the bids came in too high, and so that's why we're doing this. 1271 01:43:27,770 --> 01:43:33,890 Yes, sir Mayor, we thought we could get an economy of scale by grouping these projects together and sending it out for bids. 1272 01:43:33,890 --> 01:43:43,690 And it didn't work like we thought, so now we're going to go a different avenue with some cooperative purchasing as well as some value engineering and going out for bids for disillaborant installation. 1273 01:43:44,370 --> 01:43:45,050 Okay, good. 1274 01:43:47,820 --> 01:43:48,640 Call for the motion. 1275 01:43:52,630 --> 01:43:58,430 Make the motion that we reject all bids received for RFB25031. 1276 01:43:59,070 --> 01:43:59,930 I second. 1277 01:44:00,010 --> 01:44:02,530 Robert, thank you, council member Delaney. 1278 01:44:03,130 --> 01:44:04,050 Any discussion? 1279 01:44:07,470 --> 01:44:09,330 Seeing none, I call the questions, please vote. 1280 01:44:14,670 --> 01:44:16,070 Passes 6-0, 1281 01:44:23,450 --> 01:44:25,970 may it pertain to pre- with announcements. 1282 01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:28,630 Good evening. 1283 01:44:28,910 --> 01:44:33,630 At each council meeting, a member of the governing body announces upcoming events in the city and 1284 01:44:33,630 --> 01:44:36,730 recognizes an employee that exemplifies the city's core values. 1285 01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:41,830 Joining us this Tuesday, November 11th for annual Veterans Day celebration. 1286 01:44:42,490 --> 01:44:45,310 This event will take place at 11 a.m. in the lobby at City Hall. 1287 01:44:45,790 --> 01:44:50,230 There will be a picture out at music and a keynote address by Mr. Johnny Yallock. 1288 01:44:50,230 --> 01:44:58,830 I retired Air Force Staff Sergeant and President and CEO of the nonprofit organization, SENS OF OUR FLAG, SENS OF THE FLAG. 1289 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:26,140 City council meeting has been scheduled for next Monday, November 17th to canvas the results of the November 4th city charter election. The meeting will begin at 5 p.m. here in the council chamber. City Hall and other non-emergency city offices will be closed November 27th and 28th for the Thanksgiving holiday. Garbage and recycling will not be collected on Thanksgiving Day. Thursday's collection will be made on Friday and Friday's collection will be shifting to Saturday. 1290 01:45:27,260 --> 01:45:31,440 And in Kudos Corner, every council meeting we spotlight our employees for the great things 1291 01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:31,880 they do. 1292 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,540 To now we recognize the entire Parks and Rec Department. 1293 01:45:36,460 --> 01:45:41,780 The recent pumpkin point fall festival was a huge hit with the community, we received 1294 01:45:41,780 --> 01:45:46,260 numerous positive comments online with one resident calling it pure success and another 1295 01:45:46,260 --> 01:45:51,500 writing quote, thank you for everything, thank you to everyone who worked so hard to create 1296 01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:53,140 this memory for our kids. 1297 01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:54,180 We love in our age. 1298 01:45:54,180 --> 01:46:02,460 I estimated 2,500 attendees joined us for the festivities and joined a fun field evening activities and community spirit. 1299 01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:08,380 This incredible turnout and positive feedback or a testament to the outstanding planning and dedication of our parks and rec team. 1300 01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:14,900 A big thank you to everyone who helped make this event so memorable. Your hard work truly made a difference. So great job. 1301 01:46:16,220 --> 01:46:17,600 Any other announcements? 1302 01:46:18,660 --> 01:46:21,360 Yes, I have one announcement, Mr. Mayor. 1303 01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:28,020 just let everyone out there know that last week I did put in my letter of resignation 1304 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:34,880 before I filed for another office this past weekend and just to really quick like Ricky, 1305 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:41,340 why are you still here then? There's a there's built-in to code about a couple days period before it 1306 01:46:41,340 --> 01:46:47,060 actually takes effect so of course I still have duties here today was one of my duties to be at City 1307 01:46:47,060 --> 01:46:50,300 council, but so just to answer that question while I'm still here. 1308 01:46:51,300 --> 01:46:55,340 But I just want to say it's been an honor to represent the great people of North 1309 01:46:55,340 --> 01:46:56,540 Rishon Hills. 1310 01:46:56,540 --> 01:46:57,320 I grew up here. 1311 01:46:58,020 --> 01:46:59,700 This is still be my home obviously. 1312 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:02,680 I call this home for most of my life. 1313 01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:07,020 And for everybody up here, you guys, it's been an honor to serve with all of you. 1314 01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:09,520 And I believe we're in great hands in North Rishon Hills. 1315 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:11,680 And the city's staff, you guys have been fantastic. 1316 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,200 And so I just want to say thank you all and God bless you. 1317 01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:20,180 Well thank you. I appreciate it's really been great servant with you Ricky. 1318 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:21,940 Really has. We will be missed. 1319 01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:30,660 With that we are adjourned at 727. I think that's a record.