1 00:00:07,470 --> 00:00:17,170 All right. Sixth of all, let's call the order of public hearing and proposed a public tax increase. 2 00:00:18,610 --> 00:00:22,110 I don't know what the print may be in here. Record. It's going. 3 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:34,470 Well, for the record, today's August 11th, 6 o'clock, we're meeting at the High School on the 20th boardroom, Mr. Hanson, myself. 4 00:00:35,390 --> 00:00:41,090 This is no way Mr. Cook. Mr. Bailey is excused today, the personal item. 5 00:00:43,390 --> 00:00:49,510 I was keeping a few, didn't get a chance to sign the yellow paper on the way in. 6 00:00:49,650 --> 00:00:50,730 Please sign it on the way out. 7 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:57,780 With that, I'll turn the time over to our superintendent and the business of the district 8 00:00:57,780 --> 00:01:00,080 to talk about property tax. 9 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:08,120 Thank you all for being here. 10 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:09,000 My name is Ricky Stewart. 11 00:01:09,220 --> 00:01:10,980 I'm a business administrator for the School District. 12 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:17,460 I am lucky enough to be a graduate of course and be nice as well as a teacher of course and be nice 13 00:01:17,460 --> 00:01:23,340 I have children in the district, I'm a tax payer in this district, and now I employ the district and I care about this district. 14 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:30,940 And so as we go through some of these items, there are three ways that you can participate in the meeting with public comment. 15 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,500 And we'll get to those at the end of the presentation. 16 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,980 If you didn't sign in for public comment, you still can sign in back there. 17 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,660 And then this is super important. We'll handle that when we get here at the end. 18 00:01:44,660 --> 00:01:49,840 can get the public comment portion. Also, in the back table, you'll find a material, 19 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,320 you'll find the county combined to add for your tax increases in the county, as well 20 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,760 as the street contact station. At the site, I think you'll find our property tax index 21 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,780 savings, which will go over here as well, as well as a couple of other irons that you can 22 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:14,040 then refer to as we go through the presentation. So with that, we will get to a right or be 23 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:27,300 over here is running a virtual meeting as well, so if you are joining us virtually, you can include your global comment and chat box, and then you also may send emails as well, and we'll get your public comment at the end. 24 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,220 We'll begin with the purpose and priorities of the proposed tax increase. 25 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:39,580 So the tax increase would add approximately $780,000 to the total district budget. 26 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,840 The vote of them would be an increase of $100,000 that would cover curriculum software and 27 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:51,140 literacy support, with new mandates for literacy in K-3-3 that would help support that initiative. 28 00:02:52,620 --> 00:02:59,360 we would then, the proposed tax increase will also cover $650,000 of capital improvements, 29 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,300 I would include HVAC, facility and ground improvements parking lot maintenance and student transportation. 30 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:08,580 Not supported by this increase, we want to be very clear about this. 31 00:03:08,940 --> 00:03:12,760 None of this increase would cover salaries, any benefits, district overhead, 32 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,720 any ongoing position of staff raises. 33 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,040 So this money will be allocated simply for students. 34 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,700 students' success, and then maybe some buildings. 35 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,880 And when we talk about our capital short haul in this district, 36 00:03:28,140 --> 00:03:31,580 so our principals are instructional leaders in this district, 37 00:03:31,980 --> 00:03:36,280 go through their buildings, and they decide improvements that need to be made in their buildings. 38 00:03:37,580 --> 00:03:41,100 The list this year requested capital projects from our buildings 39 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:43,040 just over $4.3 million. 40 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,020 It approved capital projects that were budgeted just about $2.2 million. 41 00:03:48,020 --> 00:03:54,040 dollars. So we have a capital needs budget shortfall of just over $2 million. This is 42 00:03:54,040 --> 00:04:00,120 $50,000 would be useful to work against that shortfall. But again, it's not something 43 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,680 that we're not building new buildings. We're just simply maintaining the buildings that we have 44 00:04:05,380 --> 00:04:13,720 and trying to sum up with the creating useful, for a long, useful life of these buildings 45 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:20,640 by having proper maintenance and by continuing to support principles in their efforts to educate students 46 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,760 and make sure they have a safe, secure, happy place to come to school. 47 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:35,460 All right. Okay. So the question is why now? For those of you who are unaware, we have to maintain tax rate 48 00:04:35,460 --> 00:04:41,620 that's especially levels to maximize state guarantee money. You have to show local effort in order for the stage 49 00:04:41,620 --> 00:04:44,320 to give to be part of the minimum school program, 50 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,560 which is that basic WB fund name. 51 00:04:47,180 --> 00:04:49,500 So you have to, you can get up to 20 improvements 52 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:51,160 in terms of local tax efforts, 53 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:53,980 and then the state will then make up the difference. 54 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,520 There are some school districts 55 00:04:56,090 --> 00:04:58,100 that don't take any state guaranteed money. 56 00:04:58,260 --> 00:04:59,600 We are not one of those districts. 57 00:05:00,460 --> 00:05:02,840 There are local efforts, fun with their schools. 58 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:05,460 For most of the schools in the state, 59 00:05:05,660 --> 00:05:08,060 that is, our school districts can say that is not the case. 60 00:05:08,060 --> 00:05:14,360 So, we could change in the state's full harmless specification, require solicitors to adjust 61 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,920 property metrics approximately every other year to show the tax local tax efforts. 62 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:27,800 Instead of every five years, which was difficult in the previous years, without local efforts 63 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,840 or qualifying tax increase, the district will lose guarantee state revenue, and that will 64 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:36,140 phase out over the next three years, then since 2029. 65 00:05:36,140 --> 00:05:41,940 So, without guaranteeing local efforts, that state guaranteeing money will phase out. 66 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,460 This slide has a lot of information, so this equalizing funding has a lot of information. 67 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,260 That's why there's a copy on the back table, so you can refer to it as you need to. 68 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,800 We'll hit the highlights here, but you tell us a little funding uses local, local, programming 69 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,140 taxes. 70 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:08,520 But since the property balance is different across the state, programs like the voter levy and the board levy help equalize. 71 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:16,500 So this state is recognized to attack and power of school districts to help equalize that across the state. 72 00:06:17,380 --> 00:06:20,440 So these programs work on the state heritage that we talked about. 73 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:26,780 If a school district's local property taxes don't mean a set amount for students, the state provides the extra money. 74 00:06:26,780 --> 00:06:31,220 that we said, again, that program we can phase out. 75 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,220 So this year, we get 66% next year, 37% until we get to 2029. 76 00:06:38,220 --> 00:06:40,580 And then it will be those state guarantees dry out. 77 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:45,200 So without local efforts, essentially the school district will 78 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,940 follow a flip in terms of local or in terms of state funding to match 79 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:52,120 that local guarantee or the state guarantee. 80 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:58,900 The board levied, which is $100,000 proposed, allows the school board to levied property 81 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:01,960 tax following to the taxation without a public vote. 82 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,300 The main goal of these program is equalization. 83 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:11,380 Ensuring no matter where students and state of Utah live, they have access to similar educational 84 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:15,780 resources regardless of the wealth and the community that they live in. 85 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:22,260 So keeping that greater tax rates is a level of security, full state support, and maximize 86 00:07:22,260 --> 00:07:23,840 resources for students. 87 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:30,320 If local tax effort is not increased to talk about this now three times, by 2029 state funding 88 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:30,780 is lost. 89 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:41,080 And so they're asking local effort incrementally to continue to increase, which is the reality 90 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:41,780 that we're looking at. 91 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,400 This is the Strawberry Tech Compact Schedule. There's a copy of this on the back table as well. 92 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:49,480 We'll hit a couple of highlights here. 93 00:07:51,420 --> 00:07:55,180 This is a paper that we're going to provide after your reference. 94 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:02,560 Historically, property tax rates were also related rates and are just for the lowest they've ever been. 95 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,120 And so many people say, how's that possible? And pay more taxes that I've ever paid, right? 96 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,720 So what happens is the tax rate is falling because the tax base is growing, okay? 97 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:19,220 So as the tax base continues to grow, then everybody's tax rate falls, okay? 98 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Exit the property revenue is generally held relatively constant when property value is rise, causing it to fall. 99 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:30,140 Additional revenue comes from new growth on a crude tax rate increase. 100 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,360 So as our funding stays the same, meaning even as the world happens, 101 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,960 which includes students in our buildings. 102 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,140 As well, Catholics are a portion of the property taxes, 103 00:08:43,380 --> 00:08:45,020 so this portion stays the same, 104 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,040 that guaranteed rate stays the same, so to speak. 105 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:51,180 And so as we continue to grow, 106 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,880 then the needs of the district continue to grow as well, 107 00:08:54,220 --> 00:08:57,140 but the funding stays the same from tax rates. 108 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:00,660 Where do we bring? 109 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,080 So here's all the 40 districts in the state of Utah. 110 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:15,680 We collect or we spend what we are the bottom third of what we spend in local money per student. 111 00:09:16,820 --> 00:09:17,840 That makes sense. 112 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:21,500 So we can see where the bottom right there, that's the low line, right. 113 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:28,740 So we're ranked third as number 41 visitors in terms of what we spend locally, what we collect locally to spend on students. 114 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:35,640 The district average is about 2000 and we're about 500 below average, based on local money 115 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,740 that's collected and then spent for students. 116 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:45,040 So looking at it from our perspective of being physically responsible, we are spending 117 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:51,280 less per student of both tax dollars, so I would say just because I have students in this 118 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,420 district and I care about this, there's been no teachers in this district. 119 00:09:54,420 --> 00:09:58,160 We are getting a really good thing for our book for what we're sending on kids. 120 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,180 Our kids will, our kids perform as well as anybody. 121 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,320 Looking at great comparisons, 122 00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:11,780 nursing school district has the lowest district tax rate of all in neighboring county school districts. 123 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,720 So if you look at school related tax rates, 124 00:10:15,260 --> 00:10:17,400 we are the lowest of everybody around us. 125 00:10:17,940 --> 00:10:20,260 And that is on that property tax index date as well. 126 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:27,140 If the proposed tax increase passes, Miller School District would be the only 127 00:10:27,140 --> 00:10:30,460 neighborhood district with the lower tax rates and they are set to those 128 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:35,880 who choose the taxation next year. So that could change it in and there is an 129 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,160 increase. So if you look at all the district's around us, we are by far the lowest. 130 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:48,430 What is this being for you and how does it impact you? I want to be very clear by 131 00:10:48,430 --> 00:10:50,270 Again, I'm a taxpayer in this district. 132 00:10:51,930 --> 00:10:57,030 I, we understand it is not lost on anybody that attacks 133 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:58,470 increases painful for everybody. 134 00:10:59,350 --> 00:11:01,270 And what does this mean for you? 135 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:03,350 For some, it's going to mean not much. 136 00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:05,090 Well, for others, it is a hardship. 137 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:07,590 So that's not lost on anybody. 138 00:11:08,170 --> 00:11:12,030 But on a $400,000 residence, you're increased your tax 139 00:11:12,030 --> 00:11:15,890 increase would be about $87.57 a year, 140 00:11:15,890 --> 00:11:34,490 which is about $7.30 a month for those benefits income that is not insignificant so that's something to keep in mind but at the same time as we look at buildings that are aging, as we look at mandates, as we look at the things our students need to be successful in the district 141 00:11:35,090 --> 00:11:46,190 It's something to think about for the commercially enacted about $13.26 or $159 per year. 142 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:49,910 Back to the comments. 143 00:11:50,510 --> 00:11:54,270 Anybody that would like to provide for the comment of person, you can write your names on the back. 144 00:11:54,850 --> 00:11:57,610 If you still would like to, you're given your names on the sheet. 145 00:11:58,150 --> 00:12:02,210 You're welcome to come up and address a school board. 146 00:12:02,210 --> 00:12:09,010 community members, anybody that's virtually an email, those instructions are in the PowerPoints, and 147 00:12:09,010 --> 00:12:16,550 virtual participants when we get to that portion, Bryce will read those comments for us so that the board can hear those comments as well. 148 00:12:22,170 --> 00:12:27,510 Odia and Superintendent, just as part of this presentation, I really appreciate, 149 00:12:27,510 --> 00:12:35,350 appreciate the Stuart about presenting on this. I see the ground level stuff and with 150 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:41,450 our, what's up going on in the schools. And as we talk about that capital, which is the board has 151 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:46,310 a very difficult decision to make every year how much do we improve for capital expenses 152 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:51,490 and every year it's trimming down, trimming down, trimming down. As you work with me, you guys know 153 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:59,190 And we evaluate every school and see what those highest needs are. 154 00:12:59,670 --> 00:13:04,190 Every year we're just taking care of red line items that are the most urgent 155 00:13:04,190 --> 00:13:06,570 and not really taking care of other things. 156 00:13:07,810 --> 00:13:09,410 And as we've seen, it's been on the stage. 157 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:14,150 1984, 85, 86, those are great years for our district. 158 00:13:14,510 --> 00:13:16,610 We have some great schools built in here. 159 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:20,970 But here we are decades later and things are called on the part. 160 00:13:20,970 --> 00:13:25,510 And if you ask Zach, did make it cost us more and more 161 00:13:25,510 --> 00:13:27,430 in order for you to continue to keep these 162 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:28,730 buildings running appropriately. 163 00:13:29,030 --> 00:13:30,090 You're sitting in a room right now. 164 00:13:30,530 --> 00:13:31,610 It doesn't have air conditioning. 165 00:13:32,170 --> 00:13:33,530 And this is where we gather together. 166 00:13:34,010 --> 00:13:35,030 We have seats. 167 00:13:35,270 --> 00:13:37,170 I mean, there just happened to be a walk-in 168 00:13:37,170 --> 00:13:38,510 where we're having this meeting here. 169 00:13:38,630 --> 00:13:40,630 Look, some of these items really need work. 170 00:13:41,190 --> 00:13:42,530 And we're just not able to get to them 171 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:43,290 if some are funding. 172 00:13:43,470 --> 00:13:46,330 I'm not just depleting this, but I see the necessity of it. 173 00:13:46,590 --> 00:13:48,650 Because when students come to it at a school to learn, 174 00:13:48,650 --> 00:13:52,350 They also, they're a vibrant effect and databases. 175 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:55,330 We're making a small, low, incremental dance in it, 176 00:13:55,830 --> 00:13:59,830 but that's $650,000 and it will be well-used 177 00:13:59,830 --> 00:14:02,610 and for students, I mean, you look at our increase, 178 00:14:02,830 --> 00:14:04,370 it's focused on students. 179 00:14:04,830 --> 00:14:06,250 It's not on people's salaries. 180 00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:08,730 And that's a very important amount. 181 00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:11,190 Any time you guys want to go take us to the school 182 00:14:11,190 --> 00:14:12,550 and really see the nuts and bolts, 183 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:15,250 what's going on, please contact us and we can go around 184 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:16,350 and we can show you what's going on. 185 00:14:16,350 --> 00:14:18,190 We can show you what we're presented with. 186 00:14:18,370 --> 00:14:19,910 Well, it's open and open meetings. 187 00:14:20,190 --> 00:14:22,290 Every year we improve a capital budget for this. 188 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:25,170 What's out there and what do we need to do 189 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:26,410 and what we are doing. 190 00:14:27,770 --> 00:14:28,750 That's all everyone said. 191 00:14:29,570 --> 00:14:31,070 They have things I want to say about the student. 192 00:14:32,710 --> 00:14:36,350 She's very actively engaged in evaluating our programs. 193 00:14:36,590 --> 00:14:37,630 What are we doing in our schools? 194 00:14:37,970 --> 00:14:38,810 Where can you save money? 195 00:14:39,270 --> 00:14:41,450 She's taking that very seriously in a short time. 196 00:14:41,450 --> 00:14:42,310 She's already been here. 197 00:14:42,490 --> 00:14:43,670 We put to several programs. 198 00:14:44,110 --> 00:14:45,290 We made some hard decisions. 199 00:14:45,290 --> 00:14:51,870 It's just really hard to suggest that it affects people, and so it's a challenge, but we are trying to 200 00:14:51,870 --> 00:14:54,070 control Venus everywhere we can as well. 201 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:59,230 When you look at some neat things that are going on, like our new auto shop, that was completely 202 00:14:59,230 --> 00:14:59,970 funded by our... 203 00:15:00,850 --> 00:15:21,350 I mean, we didn't have to put part of any money into that. We have this amazing facility, so we have to sit there and search for these grants to just scrape along. That's my claim, and I really appreciate Mrs. Durham and presenting this information today really kind of at home and what we're going to be using this increase in the future. 204 00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:21,930 Well, 205 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:28,870 just a couple of things to add to that. 206 00:15:30,070 --> 00:15:35,470 I want you to mention that our schools are 30 to 40 years old. 207 00:15:36,810 --> 00:15:38,130 And I mean, look at the federal here. 208 00:15:38,350 --> 00:15:40,190 You can see the chairs are falling apart. 209 00:15:41,830 --> 00:15:47,330 I want you to mention that our budget for this year is $2.2 million. 210 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:50,230 But we don't even get that one. 211 00:15:50,370 --> 00:15:51,890 We don't get $2.2 million. 212 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:55,970 We don't collect that much in taxes or the capital fund. 213 00:15:55,970 --> 00:16:02,650 So we're pulling that from our reserves that we've had over the past few years. 214 00:16:03,050 --> 00:16:13,740 So even what we're spending, you know, student safety and necessary things, 215 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:17,840 isn't covering what we're collecting from what we're collecting. 216 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:27,740 I mean, Rickie also mentioned that our state guarantee funds are dropping, her make-up 217 00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:38,800 that we don't show the local effort last year, our guarantee was $1.2 million, which is 218 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:44,880 a quite novel one of this tax increase that will, you know, if we don't start showing the 219 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:53,260 local effort, we're going to be missing, you know, those stakeholders said that tax and local 220 00:16:53,260 --> 00:17:01,140 people just to hold the course. So, with that, they are 221 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:09,880 welcome to have public comment here. 222 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,150 The question was, are you going to hold them to two minutes? One of them now started 223 00:17:15,150 --> 00:17:16,850 I'm going to hold them to the two-minute limit. 224 00:17:19,530 --> 00:17:21,250 Well, we'll try to be reasonable. 225 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:23,270 A three-minute limit? 226 00:17:25,890 --> 00:17:28,030 We'd like to hold it to you, three minutes. 227 00:17:28,330 --> 00:17:30,830 And if you've got people that are, you know, 228 00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:34,630 with a shared concern, then please, you know, 229 00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:37,270 maybe get a spokesperson for a lot of people here. 230 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:42,680 All right, Mr. Lewis is here, from Spring City, this first. 231 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,640 And hello, friends. 232 00:17:48,260 --> 00:17:48,360 Hello, friends. 233 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:49,040 Good to see you, friends. 234 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:54,380 I was like this kind of meeting because I served on boards and sometimes I think it's easy 235 00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:59,360 to forget the purpose of the board and at all times you can forever stand, you won't 236 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:00,160 be friends with those. 237 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:06,300 You're really, you guys are really buckstops and there's a couple of philosophical and literal 238 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:08,260 questions that I get to first to start out. 239 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,920 First off, if you did not have taxing authority, how would you make up a short problem? 240 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:18,770 You close the school. 241 00:18:19,310 --> 00:18:22,950 You close the whole school because you didn't have seven to be. 242 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:28,090 That's some point we would have to at some point, but for 7-50, what would you do? 243 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,460 I'm assuming you'd find either A, like any business or any home, you'd find other 244 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:41,840 income sources, or you'd find there is the cut. So my question is, what other activities 245 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,560 have you done to draw out a remedy? 246 00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:49,130 We've got some, well, I've been wondering if it's in the 247 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:52,330 So grant, so grants, so grants, so grants. 248 00:18:52,330 --> 00:18:53,010 There is more head surface. 249 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:54,030 It is one of your destined to be cut. 250 00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:57,450 But there wasn't part of the request, 251 00:18:57,610 --> 00:19:00,790 but existing budget I'm still being cut. 252 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:07,530 Well initially sorry, sorry, I was going to say 253 00:19:07,530 --> 00:19:09,790 I was going to say when you look at what our capital request is, 254 00:19:10,270 --> 00:19:11,990 you're talking about a 4 million dollar request, 255 00:19:12,530 --> 00:19:13,950 so that we cut that down in 2 million. 256 00:19:14,450 --> 00:19:15,570 Which is good, that's good. 257 00:19:15,770 --> 00:19:15,950 Yeah. 258 00:19:16,190 --> 00:19:17,650 I didn't know you guys were Trump fans 259 00:19:17,650 --> 00:19:24,750 That's because that's the RWD on ask for formerly in the United States, so we'll show you how we're going to do. 260 00:19:24,950 --> 00:19:35,450 Let me speak to that. Our budget is, if you do not gain a proposed tax increase, we will continue operations as usual. 261 00:19:35,630 --> 00:19:38,130 Just mean things will be underfunded. That's the difference. 262 00:19:38,130 --> 00:19:48,510 Okay, so you will have schools continue to fail, you'll have things in buildings continue to fail, you'll have maintenance continued, regular maintenance won't happen, correct? 263 00:19:49,310 --> 00:20:00,470 So if you look at our proposed budget that the board adopted, these two items, 100,650,000 is not accounted for, right? 264 00:20:00,470 --> 00:20:04,850 because you can't assume that you're going to pass the tax increase in more initial 265 00:20:04,850 --> 00:20:10,830 budget. So the answer to your question is, buildings will continue to be not 266 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:14,170 maintaining the way that they should be, and they will not have critical 267 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:18,110 curriculum for students and to score literacy and things that are building that these 268 00:20:18,110 --> 00:20:21,550 students deserve and students need. So that's the answer to your question. 269 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:37,270 Okay next one so when I moved to 1990 I asked the school board member he did give me the answers but 270 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:48,590 the grog estimated enrollment was 2200 I won't go over a decade but now we're 2706 at the 23% increase in enrollment the budget in 271 00:20:48,590 --> 00:20:52,170 In 2020, according to GROC, it was $315 million, 272 00:20:52,330 --> 00:20:54,910 the point of $5.35 million, so the estimated 273 00:20:54,910 --> 00:20:58,510 rate of bankruptcy in 1990 would have been approximately 274 00:20:58,510 --> 00:20:59,350 $12 million. 275 00:21:00,290 --> 00:21:04,330 And GROC says that your budget for $425, 276 00:21:04,690 --> 00:21:05,870 was $40,000,000. 277 00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:09,690 See, they're increasing the enrollment of 23% 278 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,690 and overall budget increase of $386% in total dollars. 279 00:21:15,810 --> 00:21:18,050 So in my perspective, then I think, 280 00:21:18,050 --> 00:21:23,030 Well, when you address this, with regards to the growth of the county, the county's 281 00:21:23,030 --> 00:21:27,910 have the growth of 19,000 or 16,000 to 59,000 to 31,000. 282 00:21:28,510 --> 00:21:31,770 So for most of our close relatives, this is when we're in a democratic way. 283 00:21:32,250 --> 00:21:35,350 And I guess when I look at that, people almost double the total households. 284 00:21:35,870 --> 00:21:41,550 Is there a mechanism in your tax base that says you don't get to benefit from new bigger houses 285 00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:43,730 being built to keep that same tax percentage? 286 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:59,890 So when you talk about the budget growing, right, and money allocated to the district growing, the reason that I'm telling you the reason why the budget is growing the way that it has is because you now have programs that in 1990 did not exist, right? 287 00:22:00,090 --> 00:22:08,070 So you have every year the legislature continues to mandate programs in our buildings, right, summer funded, summer unfunded, right? 288 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:15,850 And so you have programs now that I mean students of course students, you have support services, you have all kinds of things that in the 289 00:22:16,510 --> 00:22:23,390 students who have access to these things, and they were also not mandated, right? They're currently mandated, so the district is a 290 00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:30,930 district for responsibility to follow the guidance of the justice or education and the legislature whether we want to or not, right? 291 00:22:30,930 --> 00:22:35,630 And so those programs continue to take money, some of them were funded, some of them were 292 00:22:35,630 --> 00:22:36,270 unfunded. 293 00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:40,870 And so when you look at the budget being robust or bigger than it was in the 1990s, the 294 00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:45,550 services that are being offered in these buildings also follow that pattern, right? 295 00:22:46,050 --> 00:22:51,490 So because my time on that, I appreciate that I'll have Mr. Cook explain it in greater detail 296 00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:56,170 when I take the launch of the tickets back then, along those lines. 297 00:22:56,170 --> 00:23:01,490 So then, what courses present the middle school, what AI courses would be an honor? 298 00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:07,720 There's not a particular AI course. 299 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Not a course, but there's curriculum. 300 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:13,660 We'll be diving into it. There are teachers that are using the game within their classroom. 301 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,540 And will they be using clouds and hydrogen and hydrogen to be tiered in your program? 302 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:20,920 No, we have school AI is what we've been using recently. 303 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Of course, okay. How about my school? Is there a particular AI class? 304 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,400 because if we're going to be looking at future, I love automotive because as they ask me, 305 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,380 I really bet there's a lot of those good things that we can educate our children for future. 306 00:23:37,780 --> 00:23:40,660 But AI is just kind of being there. Do you have anything about it? 307 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,180 Same thing. 308 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,080 Yeah, it's not great to be into what's going on every day in another particular AI course. 309 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,460 And how do you anticipate, or what, if you think about it, your objective is to increase 310 00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:58,100 education and when I look at testing with some of the worst math seems to be 311 00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:04,780 the worst, we're 76% of the state is ahead of us. How does funding, how does 312 00:24:04,780 --> 00:24:11,460 funding type performance visit or is it just we hoping at some of funding is 313 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:16,760 in directly time to that. So if you were open to performance-based payroll? 314 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:23,780 I think 315 00:24:23,780 --> 00:24:27,800 We haven't. I mean, obviously when we feel like the teachers are in effect, there are 316 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,160 proven plans that we have to go through their state regulations that we have to go through. 317 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,300 And obviously, that's happened, and there's a lot of people that don't understand that we have 318 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:40,140 upper rate of report instruction. Okay. How many openings did you have this year 319 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:43,360 for a collaborative teacher level? Teacher level. What do we have? 320 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,820 Four. Four times we have periods for those part positions. Oh, we have. 321 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760 A lot this year. So then, so you're going to say 322 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:57,320 Okay, we use a buyer to market or a school district market that's going to be a good 323 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,680 instruction. 324 00:24:58,140 --> 00:25:02,720 Yeah, so you could, you could hire, you know, we have 30 plus applicants for the most 325 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,800 reasonable, so we opened up. 326 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,620 Well, I have more, but I'll leave you a copy of mine and then none of this is made to a 327 00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:13,480 but it is filled soft and appreciate the question. 328 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:28,870 Next is Ms. Miller from Street Bay. 329 00:25:37,150 --> 00:25:40,390 First of all, I wanted to say that I have many questions 330 00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:42,030 when I got my tax notice. 331 00:25:42,910 --> 00:25:46,790 And I made multiple efforts to contact people in this this week. 332 00:25:47,470 --> 00:25:50,490 In everything you set out, there was an email 333 00:25:50,490 --> 00:25:53,430 but there was no personal contact information. 334 00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:55,950 I did leave a message with Roxy, 335 00:25:56,330 --> 00:25:59,050 but I just think if you're gonna tax us, 336 00:25:59,390 --> 00:26:02,650 give us an opportunity to find out what's going on. 337 00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:06,130 Right on your notice, call these numbers. 338 00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:08,670 If you wanna talk about a budget, call this number, 339 00:26:08,810 --> 00:26:11,430 this extension, and give us an opportunity 340 00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:14,670 to quickly contact you because it hasn't been easy. 341 00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:17,170 In fact, somebody that worked in the county 342 00:26:17,170 --> 00:26:21,930 actually give me a phone number with an extension and I got a voice mail saying 343 00:26:21,930 --> 00:26:27,190 they were unavailable for like three or four days so I mean be available if 344 00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:31,430 you're gonna do this be available for the public and then the next thing I want 345 00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:40,610 to say is when we take money from a state or a federal government there's usually 346 00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:47,530 bought some strings with that money, and sometimes those strings don't benefit us, but we have 347 00:26:47,530 --> 00:26:54,150 to comply because we're taking their money. I know years ago I worked in a project and 348 00:26:54,150 --> 00:27:01,230 we wanted to improve something, and we looked at a federal grant, or federal money. And 349 00:27:02,310 --> 00:27:07,970 when I put all the numbers together, taking that money looked like a really good deal, but 350 00:27:07,970 --> 00:27:12,950 But it would have cost us more in the long run to take that money. 351 00:27:13,710 --> 00:27:15,970 So we decided to just go with local funding. 352 00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:21,570 And so what streams are attached to taking that safe money? 353 00:27:22,050 --> 00:27:25,370 And is it really costing us things that we don't care about or 354 00:27:25,370 --> 00:27:26,150 don't leave here? 355 00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:32,190 And then another thing we used to vote when a school district 356 00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:35,170 would increase the taxes or go for a bond. 357 00:27:35,170 --> 00:27:40,410 We don't seem to have that opportunity to vote on these things anymore, and I'm not sure 358 00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:45,790 I didn't have time to research it, but why can't we vote on tax increases? 359 00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:53,650 That seems like it should go out to the public and be a vote because tax increases affect 360 00:27:54,230 --> 00:28:01,090 many lives, and as they'll point it out, we have probably more senior citizens that are 361 00:28:01,090 --> 00:28:03,370 are paying taxes to support schools. 362 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:06,010 They never have kids in this school. 363 00:28:06,670 --> 00:28:08,250 I mean, there's some balances here 364 00:28:08,250 --> 00:28:09,650 that I don't think you could rest. 365 00:28:10,730 --> 00:28:12,690 And they probably need to be addressed. 366 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:19,290 And then another issue I have is when you bond, 367 00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:24,170 that bond is paid off in a certain amount of time, 368 00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:26,530 we never get a tax decrease. 369 00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:29,590 If we, a citizen's being good faith, 370 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:37,690 help pay off a bond when it's retired we should expect to have those taxes lowered and I'm not 371 00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:45,050 talking about states funding to get more money because that's all tied to politics it's all 372 00:28:45,050 --> 00:28:52,150 tied to control to control the public perception and we want some honest answers here of what you're 373 00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:56,470 doing with that money because time is hard for everybody, 374 00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:58,150 not just Bill Desiree. 375 00:28:58,470 --> 00:29:01,010 There's probably as many homes in this county 376 00:29:01,370 --> 00:29:05,130 that need repairs as there are school district buildings 377 00:29:05,130 --> 00:29:05,990 that need repair. 378 00:29:06,410 --> 00:29:09,110 We do not have a wealthy population, 379 00:29:09,710 --> 00:29:13,550 but I am paying higher taxes on my property 380 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:18,010 than people in sage George who have much higher incomes. 381 00:29:18,830 --> 00:29:26,110 And so, I don't care about all your tables and how you prove what you deserve. 382 00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:32,270 We can manipulate money, we can manipulate perception, and we just need to take a good 383 00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:38,970 honest look at how we're affecting people, and they'll point it out very correctly that 384 00:29:38,970 --> 00:29:44,050 we have a smaller increase in students than we have tax base. 385 00:29:44,050 --> 00:29:49,570 so something seems to be up here and I think it's time we search for different 386 00:29:49,570 --> 00:29:54,070 reverence rather than just hitting the public. Thank you. 387 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:20,100 Let me just answer a few of those questions. So we got to, do we get to vote on the increase? No. You get to vote on the poll when we do billability. Those are usually big, big expenses. 388 00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:28,240 The last poll we had was in 2012 and it's said to be retired in 2032. 389 00:30:32,050 --> 00:30:33,410 I think I can't answer that. 390 00:30:33,410 --> 00:30:38,170 Because there's also, you know, you've got more of a subject to add old schools. 391 00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:41,370 We clearly added a few times. 392 00:30:41,890 --> 00:30:45,130 I don't know what the population is going to do it in the next little bit. 393 00:30:57,750 --> 00:31:00,930 Well, and then, you know, to talk about taxes. 394 00:31:02,190 --> 00:31:03,350 We're at a tricky point in health. 395 00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:05,330 We are one of a 396 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,240 cost per student. 397 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,960 And we're at the lowest tax rate. 398 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,900 We're at a minimum distance distance. 399 00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:21,020 So, maybe for your what-quies, you're getting a better payment for your bucket or a centipede 400 00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:24,180 than you are in any of our neighborhood districts. 401 00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:31,810 Actually, it's all for dollar. 402 00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:40,690 Strings for the state, you know, we talk about a couple things, you know, grants, we got 403 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:49,030 a grant for that building, and now we need to supply a teacher, but we think about it as 404 00:31:49,030 --> 00:31:52,710 in order that we can teach kids new things. 405 00:31:53,270 --> 00:31:56,310 State money is more of an equalization. 406 00:31:57,030 --> 00:31:58,450 We're not taking state money 407 00:31:58,450 --> 00:31:59,830 with strings attached to it. 408 00:32:00,190 --> 00:32:01,950 State money so that our kids 409 00:32:02,410 --> 00:32:05,430 have the same opportunities as some of the other kids. 410 00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:10,580 And I would add that the strings 411 00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:14,660 from this state usually come with or without the money. 412 00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:19,080 We get lots of strings, but not with the strings. 413 00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:46,660 I 414 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:05,460 just want to tell you that it is not lost on me what a tremendous opportunity it is 415 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:09,100 to be able to come in and sit down and talk to each of you. 416 00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:17,280 I mean, I know you all, I mean, my first name basis, most of you, and that's not overlooked by me, and thank you for what you do. 417 00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:22,580 I appreciate the comments that have been made prior. This is another Mr. Lewis. 418 00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:31,560 I hope that you sincerely look into those questions. There's a long time spent in looking at that. 419 00:33:33,610 --> 00:33:39,390 You've come to us and you've asked us to give a little more money, right? 420 00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:45,490 Which means that I have to go home and even though it's just a little, I still have to 421 00:33:45,490 --> 00:33:50,990 revise my spending habit, right, to be able to spend and to come up with that extra money. 422 00:33:51,770 --> 00:33:59,710 Now, really, that's the best presentation I've ever heard on spending and the dynamics 423 00:33:59,710 --> 00:34:06,770 of the situation. It was a sink. It was understandable to the point. Thank you. I'm not against funding 424 00:34:06,770 --> 00:34:13,970 education for getting sick. It's paid my living for 45 years. But I have seen a number of changes 425 00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:20,690 over the years in public education. Some of them are good. Some over there are not so good. If we go 426 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:28,630 back to when was it? In 1991, whenever there was no child left behind, federal government got 427 00:34:28,630 --> 00:34:30,130 have heavily involved in education. 428 00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:33,450 I see absolutely nothing good for those changes. 429 00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:42,840 As you're asking me to do, I would ask the same review, 430 00:34:43,940 --> 00:34:45,680 and Ricky and I had a good talk before the meeting. 431 00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:50,120 Please take an in-depth look at what money's going. 432 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,840 Last time I was here, one of the principals said, 433 00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:57,700 I cannot possibly do what I'm doing with any less money. 434 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,640 I don't doubt that. 435 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,560 I don't doubt that in the least. 436 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:07,840 But what it means in my world is if I can't afford to do what I'm doing, I can't continue 437 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,820 to do what I'm doing, I've got to take an in-depth look. 438 00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:15,760 And some of those things are hard, and people are going to be hurt, and they're going to 439 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,320 be feelings. 440 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:23,520 And it's going to require a lot of effort in an open mind, a big heart, a strong spirit. 441 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,780 But I would just ask you to do that. 442 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,620 Again, thank you for your time. 443 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:34,880 I would be honest. 444 00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:40,700 When I say that I think there's a lot of fluff in public education in general. 445 00:35:42,460 --> 00:35:45,580 Been in enough schools over 45 years to have seen that. 446 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,220 But it's not something that we can't turn around. 447 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,360 We can't change it. 448 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,220 we can make things better, we can make things different. 449 00:35:56,420 --> 00:35:59,960 Get rid of the minutiae, the teachers you're being asked to do. 450 00:36:00,580 --> 00:36:03,200 Higher good people, let them go into the classroom 451 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,680 and teach a group of students. 452 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:08,380 They don't need people to tell them how to coach or how to teach. 453 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,500 If they do, then we provide us a little help. 454 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,560 But give them time and resources, take away the other stuff 455 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,680 that they're being asked to do. 456 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:50,420 thank you for what you're doing. I hope you look at and take a hard look at this, you know, how we did this year ago, and public info was overwhelmingly against attacks increase, you voted for attacks increase, I'm going to wish you that I'm not going to ask you why don't we need to explain it to me, but I hope you take a hard look at that, and you know, you have a difficult job. 457 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:55,120 because you're here to run schools and you want kids to come out of these schools 458 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:03,740 the best that they can as successful as they can and yet you have public or say 459 00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:09,700 man we can't give you more money you know it's tough good luck thank you for 460 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:14,620 what you do appreciate it and who can be new to see me in here for me this 461 00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:22,200 is 462 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:37,860 kind of 463 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:44,640 for me and out of colds, hopefully nobody catches that. A few questions. 464 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,280 I was late 465 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,940 for your introduction and I thought I heard you say that some districts do not 466 00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:56,760 receive state money. Is that correct? 467 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,240 Yes, so there are three districts in the state currently that don't receive any state money 468 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,740 because their local efforts are passing in and in the state of the guarantee. So Park City 469 00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:12,060 an example. Part C school districts, their local tax revenue generates enough money, 470 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,020 but they don't qualify for state money. 471 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:14,860 I see. 472 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:21,360 And so when you have the list up there of the districts waiting on the lowest bias and 473 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:28,520 we were way up there at the lowest, I might to assume that the ones that have higher tax rates 474 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,780 are the ones that don't need the state money. 475 00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:37,720 Not necessarily, so the sliding scale in terms of funding may receive depending on their 476 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:42,420 local effort. Again, so the more local effort that a district has, the more 477 00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:46,580 property tax they collect based upon the values in their community, the less 478 00:38:46,580 --> 00:38:50,420 say our guarantee for the state match. So it's basically the lobby 479 00:38:50,420 --> 00:38:54,480 provision, meaning the state recognizes that not all communities have the same 480 00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:00,160 taxing power based on property values, and so the state wants to be fair and 481 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,000 equitable across all students, no matter what community they live in, should have 482 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,420 have the same ability to be funded, right? 483 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,920 And so if there's a district that cannot, 484 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,640 just based on the value of property tax 485 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,920 in their area, then the state makes up the difference 486 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,380 for that. 487 00:39:16,580 --> 00:39:18,020 So Park City is a prime example. 488 00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:20,340 They're property tax, right? 489 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,420 The property balance in Park City are high enough 490 00:39:22,980 --> 00:39:26,500 that they are funded completely with local efforts. 491 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,220 So they don't get any state money in tax to it, right? 492 00:39:29,580 --> 00:39:31,900 And when you talk about strings attached to whatever it might be, 493 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:38,060 The state doesn't make this money to be used under the ability of a local board, right? 494 00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:44,940 And so when the state makes up that guarantee payment, that short call, depending on the district, 495 00:39:45,540 --> 00:39:53,420 and there are no streets attached, it is under the direction of the local school board to decide how to make a spend. 496 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,420 Okay. 497 00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,440 And can I assume that out of those three districts that don't take money, they're like part city. 498 00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:15,120 And the third one was so much more so my school district, yeah, and those are all based on property values in those countless areas. 499 00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:20,880 Yeah, they're high tax, high value properties. 500 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,000 As 501 00:40:29,390 --> 00:40:37,890 I heard people talk, I wondered about alternatives, what are our options other than 502 00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:38,770 taxes. 503 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:48,570 Some years ago, and anyway, there were some citizens in Marona and I, we got together 504 00:40:48,570 --> 00:40:57,010 I'm trying to see if there was some way to improve how we 505 00:40:57,010 --> 00:41:00,690 receive our funding and how we organize it. 506 00:41:00,930 --> 00:41:05,730 We looked into some charter schools in the state, 507 00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:08,390 advantages and disadvantages. 508 00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:12,430 I don't know if that's something that's 509 00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:14,550 a real viable option. 510 00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:24,530 school, back there in the steam liable, maybe again we don't have the tax tax that you 511 00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:27,610 would have like in Park City or under school districts. 512 00:41:28,490 --> 00:41:33,550 So charter schools actually do not have any local effort in terms of their funding. 513 00:41:33,730 --> 00:41:40,090 They are solely relying upon state funding, so that's a different conversation, right? 514 00:41:40,090 --> 00:41:46,830 So it actually takes money from local school districts and charter schools, it's been a topic 515 00:41:46,830 --> 00:41:51,990 debated on the Hill every legislative session about where that money's going, charter schools 516 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:57,050 actually don't collect property tax, right, which means the pie that we speak of with 517 00:41:57,050 --> 00:42:03,870 this money from public education is with differently meaning local districts that rely upon the 518 00:42:05,770 --> 00:42:12,550 And so these charter schools have actually worked, and I'm not hard to integrate charter schools. 519 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:17,090 I would say my kids are in public school and I'm a public school child. 520 00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:23,390 And my child's public school experience rises out of any charter school I would say. 521 00:42:23,650 --> 00:42:28,450 And I'm incredibly proud of this district and what they've done for the children of this district. 522 00:42:28,450 --> 00:42:33,450 So I'm obviously having an experience with charter schools, but I do know for funding aspect, 523 00:42:33,730 --> 00:42:37,190 there is no local tax efforts for charter schools. 524 00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:41,010 It is all safe under which it takes a piece of the pie from local schools. 525 00:42:46,820 --> 00:42:47,940 Okay, only 526 00:42:50,210 --> 00:42:53,770 other thing was just the inflation itself. 527 00:42:54,190 --> 00:43:02,130 I know that simplistically, I'm not CPA or anything, but when I look at my taxes, 528 00:43:02,130 --> 00:43:13,250 As I see what the assessor's office does in valuating my property and so on, and then 529 00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:18,910 you have a tax rate which, again, they're going to determine what part of it's taxable. 530 00:43:19,790 --> 00:43:25,310 And I see an increase every year just because of inflation, is that fair or not fair. 531 00:43:26,810 --> 00:43:31,290 I mean, it seems like my taxes are going up just because of inflation even if there 532 00:43:31,290 --> 00:43:31,930 ain't no change. 533 00:43:32,850 --> 00:43:34,710 Well, there's a couple of things under taxes. 534 00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:41,130 So, as the value of your home increases, your waiting to actually goes down. 535 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:45,890 That's where you have to have these troops in taxation areas. 536 00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:52,990 The school district is only one part of your total property taxes also. 537 00:43:52,990 --> 00:43:58,410 So your taxes may be going up because of the city you're located in, the water district, 538 00:43:59,110 --> 00:44:07,630 the county, the landfills, there's a variety of reasons it can go up because everybody has to tag. 539 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:14,590 All of these different entities have to tax and it's based on property. 540 00:44:14,590 --> 00:44:23,410 But it's a state law that has the value of your home's increase, the rate has to decrease 541 00:44:23,410 --> 00:44:28,570 so that the money going to reach entity remains the same. 542 00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:38,570 And so the rate actually goes down if the price is very low, the value of the home's. 543 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,200 That's your inflation point as well. 544 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,640 So, when you think about services provided at school, inflation affects you and I, or 545 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,180 free-store inflation affects the gas pump, inflation also affects our ability to feed kids, 546 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:54,740 right? 547 00:44:54,980 --> 00:44:58,600 Inflation affects our ability to maintain buildings because it costs more to do those 548 00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:58,800 things. 549 00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,880 So yeah. 550 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,860 So we're transporting students, inflation affects the ability to put fuel in buses, and the ability to purchase buses. And so inflation affects the school district actively, just like the effects of our households. And so some districts, and as we've talked about street contact, some districts that I've talked to other residents in the street are superintendents. They actually do true contact, they should just to cover inflation costs in their district. They're not doing any improvements. They're not doing, they're feeding kids. 551 00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:32,180 is they are providing transportation for students. 552 00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:34,440 So it's not an improvement that's just to keep up 553 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,440 with the cost of inflation in terms 554 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,800 of what they're paying to educate students. 555 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:47,390 Miss Taylor, for a moment. 556 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,400 Thank you for this opportunity and to meet with you. 557 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,100 You're looking at a woman who has been in the school 558 00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,440 this week now, this is in town, 559 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,860 that has turned in self-solving. 560 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,260 For over 20 years, three of those years 561 00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:28,160 The last three years of my employment was in the district offices and I saw that flush 562 00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:42,120 over millions of dollars spent unwisely, totally imperfect and yet as of the public cannot 563 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,060 say one word, 564 00:46:48,890 --> 00:46:55,090 that's the facts of life I lived with. And I know that because when I opened 565 00:46:55,090 --> 00:47:05,250 up a school in 1998, in which shortment was called open, it was elementary, I had 1200 566 00:47:06,110 --> 00:47:08,750 students from kindergarten to sixth grade, 567 00:47:11,250 --> 00:47:13,850 and those now the day on the website they have 568 00:47:13,850 --> 00:47:21,590 six hundred and twenty-seven students. I don't know what. Yeah, the education we received 569 00:47:21,590 --> 00:47:24,770 and I'm an orthographic graduate every 570 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,420 year for our classrooms. It's amazing how many 571 00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:38,920 students that live here and that doesn't do a lot of it at 10. Not once. But the feeling 572 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:46,760 that you are working with needs, your input, but it also means asking your citizens 573 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:54,460 that are going to be paying for the maintenance you're going to have, the groundwork, the buses, 574 00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:04,640 everything that you are looking at needs, my approval, their approval, as well as yours. 575 00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:08,200 So this woman who's raised it, yes. 576 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:15,380 Our taxes most of us are in that 50 to 70 to 80, 90 years of age. 577 00:48:15,380 --> 00:48:16,980 You don't have kids anymore. 578 00:48:17,580 --> 00:48:18,860 You don't have no school. 579 00:48:19,340 --> 00:48:21,660 They're all volunteers, they're all children. 580 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,800 But remember, when you look at budget, 581 00:48:26,620 --> 00:48:29,220 you look at my budget and you look at your budget, 582 00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:30,740 just the same way. 583 00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:34,760 Are you going to go in and tap and increase your income 584 00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:40,220 by getting another job because you can't possibly afford to live in where you're living? 585 00:48:43,060 --> 00:48:45,060 That's what you're asking the public to do. 586 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:46,640 with this increase is $4 million. 587 00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:52,440 A lot of us have moved back home. 588 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,100 I'm in the same home. 589 00:48:54,280 --> 00:49:00,420 I'm this born-in race-in, and I do not see the property taxes 590 00:49:00,420 --> 00:49:03,720 that I pay, that pay for all of you 591 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:06,820 who are trying to do here in this school district. 592 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,700 And this district, and all for it, 593 00:49:09,860 --> 00:49:11,240 and yes, you're doing a great job. 594 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,760 You are literally, these numbers are correct. 595 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:16,740 You're doing a great job. 596 00:49:16,740 --> 00:49:25,500 Thank you, as you admit, $4 million is not a lot of money, and I've seen a lot of it go to waste. 597 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,020 We had to keep track of everything we bought there for a second, for $4 million. 598 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,100 The 599 00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:42,880 $4 million number is three pairs, and the numbers are being requested at the school. 600 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,400 The tax increase is only $750,000. 601 00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:49,080 Just just wanted to clarify that in the case. 602 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:54,420 I'm just looking at your notes here, that's the shortfall. 603 00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:01,220 So up here is what we're asking for, the 750 total, the shortfall for what we actually 604 00:50:01,220 --> 00:50:01,920 need to do. 605 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,320 The 4 million is what needs to be done. 606 00:50:04,780 --> 00:50:08,580 There was only a budget amount of 2 million to cover that, so we're actually 2 million 607 00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:11,880 short, but we're only requesting 650,000. 608 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,320 Thank you. 609 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,760 No, there's no comments on that. 610 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:26,740 Two. 611 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,560 That was everybody who had, thank you for coming. 612 00:50:40,820 --> 00:50:42,000 Thank you for coming to the world. 613 00:50:44,260 --> 00:50:46,820 Again, we don't take any of this lightly. 614 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,120 We're the taxpayers here ourselves. 615 00:50:51,020 --> 00:50:54,360 Again, I want to reiterate that the 616 00:50:56,410 --> 00:50:57,570 ban for the bulk of its 617 00:50:57,570 --> 00:51:06,330 dollars versus in the other districts where in the top third right now we're in 618 00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:15,350 lowest rate of anywhere in the districts and I think we're in the top 10 of 619 00:51:15,350 --> 00:51:24,270 the lowest districts overall out of 40 higher districts now it can stay so 620 00:51:35,790 --> 00:51:36,370 we'll close 621 00:51:36,370 --> 00:51:37,710 the hearing portion of this. 622 00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:46,820 I apologize earlier. I said we had to close the schools. I thought 623 00:51:46,820 --> 00:51:52,240 Dale, we could click any taxes. So just click if I have to. 624 00:51:55,740 --> 00:51:57,680 So next night, let me 625 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:06,080 agenda as a motion to approve or the doctor for the tax. We can do it tonight. We can do it next 626 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,620 week and are meeting with a chance to talk about much. I 627 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,640 had asked personal additional numbers. 628 00:52:47,780 --> 00:52:48,260 So 629 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,080 you have the invention of the book most over the day. 630 00:53:08,420 --> 00:53:09,840 Let's table it till next week. 631 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,020 I got a question for Christie. 632 00:53:12,260 --> 00:53:14,180 How did you get a half mill for our district? 633 00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:14,900 What did you do? 634 00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:21,930 How hard was it for the school project the grant that you received that you got for us? 635 00:53:21,970 --> 00:53:24,370 We were talking about the facility improvement. 636 00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:24,770 Yes. 637 00:53:25,310 --> 00:53:26,190 That was all right. 638 00:53:26,310 --> 00:53:27,210 It was a cruise to the legislature. 639 00:53:28,810 --> 00:53:30,070 It was a grant provided. 640 00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:32,370 It was, I mean, all together. 641 00:53:32,810 --> 00:53:34,990 That's why I put the grant and received the grant. 642 00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:36,910 But we didn't have to follow that or the parameters. 643 00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:38,810 We had to be at the model world this year. 644 00:53:40,310 --> 00:53:43,450 So we followed by to be able to apply for the grant. 645 00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:45,050 We applied for the grant. 646 00:53:45,050 --> 00:53:45,070 We applied for the grant. 647 00:53:45,090 --> 00:53:45,590 We are. 648 00:53:45,590 --> 00:53:53,350 In my experience, over the last several years, there's this more, there's a round of opportunities. 649 00:53:53,910 --> 00:54:00,130 It's often, there's a lot of needs that's turned to a tiny rack and then, it opens the rack 650 00:54:00,130 --> 00:54:02,550 and it's like, because we were awarded that. 651 00:54:03,570 --> 00:54:04,270 Thank you. 652 00:54:05,650 --> 00:54:10,590 And that is the dollar for dollar matching grant, meaning the district has to come with the other hand. 653 00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:17,300 So if you're awarding the grant, I have a district that does have to come, but I don't know for $1. 654 00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:20,120 I didn't think I'd do anything about the national grant, but it was a straight grant. 655 00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:21,420 It was really under the line. 656 00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:24,680 You have to show that for us as well. 657 00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:25,460 Thank 658 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:40,720 you most certainly for postponing the decision on the tax rate until our meeting next week. 659 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:44,980 which will be held at the district office at this point. 660 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,180 So next week August 18th, 6 o'clock, 661 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:55,570 the district office was just west of here, 662 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:58,070 unless we filled up any room 663 00:54:58,070 --> 00:54:59,170 within the company here. 664 00:55:02,530 --> 00:55:03,330 So I think I'm ocean. 665 00:55:05,810 --> 00:55:07,310 I think I'm just a gobble of the payment. 666 00:55:07,690 --> 00:55:07,830 Hi. 667 00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:13,370 Mr. Radson, we'll do a roll call vote. 668 00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:14,450 Okay, Mr. Radson? 669 00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:15,430 Yes. 670 00:55:16,050 --> 00:55:16,710 Mr. Gobble? 671 00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:17,630 Yes, Mr. Cook? 672 00:55:17,790 --> 00:55:17,910 Yes. 673 00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:18,990 Okay, 674 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:31,600 we'll also bring the decision and the notion of the final budget next week as well. 675 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:32,700 So, 676 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,200 we don't know if that's going to happen. 677 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:42,800 Do 678 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,120 you want to tell them where the meeting will be in just a minute? 679 00:55:57,290 --> 00:56:03,090 And I said this district office, so district office 680 00:56:03,090 --> 00:56:07,150 for now, we should see something, and then we'll certainly 681 00:56:07,150 --> 00:56:08,530 post it in the morning. 682 00:56:09,390 --> 00:56:10,390 We'll put it out this afternoon. 683 00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:14,980 Sure, it should be in the morning. 684 00:56:17,860 --> 00:56:18,080 All right. 685 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,380 With that, I think we can adjourn the meeting. 686 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,420 I second. 687 00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:27,520 I'll make the motion, but I'm going to move. 688 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,600 All right, motion, but Mr. Madison, second, 689 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,780 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 690 00:56:32,180 --> 00:56:32,320 I'm sorry. 691 00:56:34,180 --> 00:56:34,760 Thank you. 692 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:37,080 Thank you.