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Okay, we'll call this the order, 432D, March 24th, we're in Fairview for our ordinance, I'd like to welcome

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our one in out, invocation. Mike, will you say that for us?

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Yeah, our

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father in heaven, we're so thankful to live in such a wonderful place. We're grateful

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for the surroundings, for the community, the good people around us. We're grateful at this

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time to meet regarding the police force we're so thankful for the officers and pray for

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each of them that they all may be safe and be able to carry out their duties with confidence

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and courage and we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ in them.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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But do all our minutes from our February 25th, 26th of the year, and we ain't

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anybody noticed, we need to change, does

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anybody want to make motion to accept those

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minutes?

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Yeah, motion.

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Six, seven minutes.

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Three.

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Daniel's still trying to read it down.

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I want to read it down.

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I'll give the seconds.

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Okay.

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Get motion by mic, second by Daniel.

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All those in favor.

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And you're closed, double-dipping on my time here, trying to get my key back, I understand.

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Alright, we're going to go back now to staff officers, which is our police chief.

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It's going to be a real nice scene services contract.

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Awesome. And that green services.

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We'll talk about fat and green, it's a little bit different entity, and then get some ideas here.

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So Maroni, as you guys were aware last time, they approached Brad and I. We went into a meeting with them,

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discussed services with Maroni that I believe that was our second meeting that we had with Maroni.

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Since that time, they have got really serious about services with us to the fact that I'm not going

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rely were pretty much there. So we had another meeting with them. We did so we had so we did do a

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two and a half hour board meeting with or not board meeting a work meeting which we discuss

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services and answered questions regarding contracts and stuff with them. When we got done with that

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we held the city council meeting. Our attorney drew up this interlocal agreement.

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R's drew it up. Their attorney made a couple changes to it, but it wasn't anything significant.

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We'll go into those changes in a second. The one that R attorney drew up is attached to

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your packet, and the one that Steve handed out separately is the one that they made small changes to,

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and yes, signed. And I'll go over the differences here in a second. But a couple things that we'll

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talk about during this interlocal agreement. So you guys are aware, this is an interlocal agreement

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between Maroni and North Valley Police Department, this does not make them board members.

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So they will not have a spot on the board.

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This is basically them just contracting with our police department for services in their city.

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So Troy was going to be here tonight or today, it doesn't look like he showed up.

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But he can come, they can participate in the board meeting, obviously they just don't have a vote.

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Now they are on a plan that we've talked to for three years basically.

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We haven't really discussed that plan, but they're aware in three years that they're trying to get to the point that they will be a board member

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There was that was it take to get so that's up to you guys. Honestly, Brad basically said when they get to the bout close to the same money wise

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Per resident is what they would kind of establish I think yeah, I think the

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Sorry, no, you're fine. I think the best course of action

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And this is how most other like combined police forces do is they establish a

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per resident rate for services and then at the point and so we would need to do

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that and then once they meet that funding then they'd be a part of that.

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Yeah, and then we would decide on that would be your guys' decision to decide on if you

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want to expand the board to seven numbers at that time or if you want to keep it

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five and get one of them, get one of them somehow in there or whatever the case is, or whatever

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you guys want to do. That would be an expansion of there. They do understand that and they

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are very aware that if we can continue the way we are, if they want those kind of services

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or we can start to go towards the board direction, it does sound like they want to do the board

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direction eventually. They're very aware that their budget hasn't been where it needs to be and

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they need to make it for. Other than the cost, what's the difference between as far

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as services and stuff? Really the services it's going to be. So what they're paying for

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is going to be different. Like so, I'm sorry, what they're paying for is going to be different.

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They're not going to get the coverage that Fairview has. They're not going to get the coverage

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that Mount Pleasant has. We're going to try to give them more coverage than they were getting

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with the sheriff's office under their contract. But it's not even going to be remotely close

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to what Fairview has we we estimated about and and this is the funny thing because we've

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talked to you we've talked to Brad as well and I'm like do you guys even check hours like no

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we know you're there like that's the goal for them too is that they don't worry about hours

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and they know we're there but in reality they're going to be significantly less nice the first

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time I've seen our officers back to their old hiding places where they back last night

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work last night. I know who it was.

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So those are, yeah, those are kind of what we'll go through.

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And so they'll be different services for different things and they're aware of that.

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Yeah. So really, honestly, we will be with this contract,

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we will hire one officer for basically to service that over there,

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but we'll fill in with other officers from their site.

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So so still real taking them right. So is it a more of a one dedicated guy there? It won't be dedicated. So the idea that I'm

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What I'm saying is like if it's Drake, he's not going to be assigned room. No, that's his gig for no, okay. No, that's what I wanted. It's not. Yeah, it won't be

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Dedicated to the so I'm not gonna lie. So that's kind of that's kind of what they brought up right in the meeting. They actually brought up and

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They're like, so will you get us somebody that we can deal with?

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And I said, the thing about it is you won't deal with the officer.

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You'll deal with me and you'll deal with Lauren.

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Where are your contacts?

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So like, if there's a problem, you'll deal with us and we'll take care of the problem.

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And they're like, okay, I said, and the county's only been giving them five hours a day.

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Yeah, five hours a day is what the big news for.

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Yeah, it is what we're going to.

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Well, there's not actually an hour set.

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So they brought in this was written by their, so that was written by their attorney.

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Yeah, that was written by their attorney and we brought it up and they're fine with that being in there

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But I brought up it would probably be more more almost double that more in my clone

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You guys work it you can you do fourth-year line two different cities the same I know

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So it is it's gonna be a little bit different

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But I do have some plans. So you're wearing we'll talk about those plan for a second

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If you've got to support the gun, it's like you promised we could just get there.

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They're coming.

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I promise.

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They're coming.

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I did say guns.

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I want to see what happens.

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You've got to start with badges, but there might be guns involved.

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There could be guns, but they're rubber bullets.

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So they're looks real.

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So there are some things.

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One thing that I'll give you to real quick on the contract.

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So this was added by their attorney.

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This changed things very quickly for us. I'm not going to say whether it was Maroni that

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decided to do this or whether it was the sheriff or it was a mutual agreement. But the

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sheriff found out about the 5-0 vote actually before the 5-0 vote and the sheriff decided

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to discontinue services with them as a March 31st.

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So that's the best way to do it so we will be well I mean I can see that

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Yeah, I know so April 1st will be the day in which if I

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I take on that because they're contracts at 90 days and they decided did not hold

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that 90 days and you get the fire jumping at both feet and that's kind of

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So I kind of and I talked to Mike and I talked to Brad a little bit about this

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and I'll take the punishment if you guys want to give it, but their budget allowed for them to pay

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the share of his wage this quarter. Does that make sense there payment? Their budget was not

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to pay the increase for us, that budget. So I told them obviously it'll give us some time,

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but we will take their calls. We just won't be able to provide honor for some of the service

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that we would give them as a July first, but they did agree to pay that portion of the

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share of to us for that first three months. So it's about $5,000 less or just the first

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quarter, the first quarter of the year. So it's about $5,000 less, obviously we are not

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staff to do it so we will be filling in over there. The best we can for that $32,000.

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Yeah, I know because I remember I like rode every single day. Yeah, I see cops there never never card or yeah lights are what matters

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And I promise you they'll see a different world. I mean Steve's talk to say those you got to send two police officers over there

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Put one and the normal spot on state street, but when I'm on deck springs

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You'll have a mail through the direction because oh, I've gone past yeah, I can fly now

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There's another one there else coming in to town. It's like, oh, exactly. Oh, there's another one

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And that's the thing and I'm we're very aware. It'll be it'll be lights galore there for a while

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So they'll find we're gonna know our stuff down. It'll be fun to see. Yeah

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So their period will start April 1st with the payment of 32,500

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That's what they would have made of this year off. They're after starting July 1st

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It will, the contract will be 180,000 per year.

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However, the first year we bought their police truck at 30,000.

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So you're aware, we're already in possession of that truck

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and it's getting equipped right now.

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Yeah.

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So it's already in our possession of that there.

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Did they have all the equipment then like they said?

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It's a mess.

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And they do, I think, have the equipment

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but they ripped it out extremely fast and I'm not going to lie, it's a mess.

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So it's up there, the guy is very aware of how to put it back together.

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The question is what can he salvage, what can he not.

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I anticipate hitting it, I'm not going to lie, being about $5,000.

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The question or the call that I did get right after we picked up the truck was from their recorder who said,

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we know it's a mess, we're willing to pay.

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So that's something that we can work out as it comes if it's like substantial, right?

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I mean, if it's something, what's out?

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The stuff is actually 2021.

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So it's not a bad trouble.

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It's the same.

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It was bought at the same time.

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Because I came from an area where we could do a career with the same equipment.

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Because he would just keep stripping it down with the next car.

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So this has got our role to take stuff out.

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They were going to sell it.

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And so they had public works guys going, no, they just cut and pulled.

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That's what they did.

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Yeah, Paul was going to sell it and they just ripped the stuff out and then threw it

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in the corner.

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So we've got a lot of stuff not going to lie.

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I don't know how many radars we found, but there was so many radars that we don't even know

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which one went to the truck, but it was like horrible.

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We took them all.

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So it was like we did take them all.

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So there's some stuff that will work out that way and some stuff there.

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Now there is some things that we, sorry, let's go on this, so it will be 180,

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180,000 starting then and it will continue to be 180,000 moving forward until

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we decide that it's going to move towards that board spot and

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it's going to get cost for the increase.

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That's what we do in the board every year.

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We did tell them that we would have to raise to whatever the cost.

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So we talked about like raises this year, right, for officers.

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Now they're not going to deal with that this year, but as the race comes up this year, depending

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on what the cities do, if you guys give 4% to your employees, or you guys give 3, we'll

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balance where it is, come to you guys and say we need 3.5% and then the cities, the cost

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for the wages will go up probably 3.5% just on that portion.

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They're aware that they're not going to be locked in 180.

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Oh, I got drilled in.

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I promise you that.

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that right? Yeah it was in there and they said so it's 180 I mean how do we know

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it's not just gonna keep going up? I'm like it's gonna keep going up until you

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guys like you want to be on the board or it's gonna go up until inflation stops

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or whatever happens. Yeah exactly yeah then we change it but they they understood

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that and I think that was just some questions that came at the last second by an

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an outside source that was not there, but had some, say, the last second.

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Well, Troy defended that really well too.

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He did. Yeah.

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The City Council, he did.

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So they, I'm not going to lie, they're all in.

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It was a 5-0 vote, I don't really even think it was close.

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This contract will be in effect the same as the other contracts.

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Like I said, it's just a different thing.

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They are required to give six months prior to the new fiscal year to opt out just like the other cities are

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So in other words if they don't see things coming their way, they have to opt out before January 1st, 2027

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Let us know and then it would go to January 20, or sorry, so that doesn't give us a year and they're very aware of that

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But, like I said, I don't see there being any issues at all.

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Any concerns that you guys see that way?

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If you want to talk about the way I see kind of some things going, we can talk about that,

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or if you guys are good with...

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The contract, we can do that now. I have a question. I do have a question because I do have something like I'll go over and I think that relies into the fountain green stuff next. So ask a question on the contract. No, it's not on the. It's on the buildings of I'm just curious is with. I don't want to be hard feelings with the county, which they're probably going to be at some point. Are you guys ever going to have to worry about running dispatch or running something for your guy?

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great question because this is coming up because it's already at the point of

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break and I will we'll discuss that I promise yeah yeah if we're good with the

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contract I'll turn it back to you go ahead and talk about fat and green

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that you want to do that or should we prove this okay any other concerns on the

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I mean it matches up with what you've already said I read through it. Yeah, it looks great.

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Yeah, minor adjustments. Yeah, but they may. Yeah, the court is everything goes through.

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Go steal through Marona. They have their own. They have their own. They have their own steal.

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They actually, if people please not guilty here in the mew of the prosecutor, they go to Marona anyway.

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So it's actually hand because they have to bail it there.

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It was only getting one three thousand. Yeah, I might be wrong. Yeah, no, it's very long.

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to public here you know what I'm saying but I think it was only 3,000 dollars with fines they were

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using. Yeah it was very low. Three or 4,000 dollars in the last few days. They have their still

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fareb約. I remember there was a time group where they were trying to get rid of some of the

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goods. Yeah. So I know that's good. The board don't want to merge them but really it's kind of

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like they'd have to figure out a way to fareb約. It gets their money for their cords. Now

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pleasant gets their money for their cords. Which I think is easy if it's a fareb約. I think it's

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I just think it's, I'll be straight with it.

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The court wants it, but they don't want paid less.

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So they want to keep the courts, and they want the same money to then meet one time.

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And I think that's where you're a problem.

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Damn near impossible to put them back in place once you get rid of them.

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I've heard that too.

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Yeah.

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But I think your court would be, in my opinion, I think your court would still be functioning.

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I think it'd still be Fairview Justice Court.

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It would just be held at a different location.

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And they, they've done that for court.

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They do it right now, Marona.

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That's the core.

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Remember like fountain green people.

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Yeah.

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We don't have to bail it from Mount Pleasant.

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Like fountain green people coming over for a pre-trial.

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Oh yeah.

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That's where Mr. Urchad Woully was at the time when he was running.

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And that's basically what they do right now.

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So Wes does not ever come to Fairview.

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Wes goes to Maroni.

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And all the cases from Fairview Maroni and fountain green go to Maroni.

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But the court's like Tammy and McKiff have wanted us to start going over there just on our own

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as bailiffs because the county won't for five years.

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So yeah, there's some, there's some things that

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Let me figure it out. Yeah. All right, sorry to just do

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Do you really know what you're doing?

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So somebody want to make motions except the

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Interol code agreement with Moroni City.

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I think it's only you and I they can do that.

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So I'll make a motion on this.

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Motion by Daniel?

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Say turns by by.

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Okay, just put a little heat on you when you're the only guy.

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I guess just having money involved.

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We have to do a rule called Nathan.

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Okay. Mayor Michelson. Yes.

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Mike Rick. Yes.

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Daniel Mauer. Yes.

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You don't want to say here.

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Fantastic.

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We should have done a roll call at first.

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That's probably something we have to

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next time.

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Oh yeah. So you just heard like that.

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By the call to order.

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Yeah.

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And you've got a copy of it.

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So before we're done we'll get a signature

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from you and Nathan and Santa. Okay. Okay. Foundry. There is not. This is a discussion about

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Fountain Green. So why we were in Maroni getting a five zero vote. Fountain Green had it on their

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agenda to approve us taking over services as well, which we did not know. They did it on their own.

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They did. They had the wrong name on there, but they put on their service contract with

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North Sand Pete Police, which is us apparently. So, you guys are aware, we met with them.

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We initially gave them a price of 125 to 130 different coverage as well as what this

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is, or what we're doing with Merona. Different coverage than what Merona is. They wouldn't be

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getting the same service, they would be getting less hours,

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that kind of stuff, to do kind of the same thing,

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but it would be less patrol in their city.

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Now, when we talked about that and had that discussion,

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obviously we talked about that last time

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what was said and some things,

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and we'd never heard a word from the mayor

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in any shape or form for an entire month, I believe,

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and then all of a sudden we're on the agenda.

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We've got approved to basically get a contract with us, so yeah, so we heard, we heard

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through the fire chief, didn't even hear through the mayor, heard through the fire chief

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that apparently we're doing services over there, and then the sheriff called me, like five

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minutes after I heard from the fire chief, and asked me if we were taking found room two.

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And I said it wasn't even aware of it. He told me we were on the agenda and they passed and that that that that

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So I informed the sheriff exactly where we were we have not heard and he said well

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They're probably gonna be reaching out for a contract. Well, they did yesterday

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So he wanted a contract that they could vote on by the middle of

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April

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Is what he wanted still not set to a price?

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haven't really done anything that way, haven't discussed services or anything with

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them. So I suggested why don't we do the exact same thing that we did with

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Moroni? Well, now I provide a proposal together, give it to you. So you have the

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proposal, once the proposal is in place, let's set a work meeting, let's go to

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the work meeting, your questions can come out, we can discuss it and that at

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that time, if they're interested, we can do a local agreement and get it by. And I

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think we have time to do that. How? My big concern is how much burden that's going to be for you.

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So that's where we're going. So here's where we're at. There are some good and there are some bad

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with Fountain Green and some of it goes along with Marona and some of it doesn't. So they are less

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than we have done the figures and we believe we can bring somebody on specifically

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We four fountain green with the money that they provide a full-time officer.

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It's within that budget, but it is not within the budget to buy a vehicle.

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So it does not give us enough to buy an vehicle and an officer, and they don't.

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My biggest concern is, is when we go down to one or two officers, and if it happens to be

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that they're both in Fairview and something happens in fountain green, that's a long-freaking

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ways to get you guys around. It is. So this is where this is where ultimately well it's a great

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question. Let's talk about it. So when we started this Logan kind of oversees patrol right I mean

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I see a lot of it but he oversees patrol and the and the that kind of stuff. So I asked Logan I said

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when we when we started this do we feel like we can take Moroni with one guy

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And the answer is it's not enough. It's just not. I mean, even when you were there, they need to.

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They just don't have the funding to put to you right now.

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So, they need to work towards the two eventually, but right now it's one, right?

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So, we know going into this that we're going to have to pull resources. There's no doubt about it, right?

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And as we discussed it, we have to discuss, and we have to look at all probabilities out there for the future.

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One of the probabilities is, what does the sheriff's office do, right?

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And what do they do?

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Which is even at the moment, I think they're probably not good enough.

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So that's where we're looking.

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Yes.

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And force them to handle their count.

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And that's exactly right.

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So you're looking at a situation in which we have known for quite a while that they

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and it's not to place blame on anything.

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I might even be doing the same if I was in their opposition.

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But it has to look at, they have fulfilled contracts with officers.

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So they patrol the areas in which they're contracted.

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When those contractors are gone, what are they going to patrol?

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They have to respond to calls, but what are they patrol?

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And the question is, if Fountain Green takes, if we take Fountain Green,

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there's no contract up here.

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So that means, do they patrol where their contracts are in Mentai?

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or do they send somebody up here in the areas in which they haven't patrolled.

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And my gut is telling me that it's going to be that way.

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So that means like the unincorporated areas in the north of like that,

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they have not patrolled those areas.

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But they respond to calls.

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I've been the only couple on the over and over in the last five years.

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Yeah, I've figured that out.

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So you know that.

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So what's the, what's the, I mean, so they're getting just kind of, it's not coming.

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That's kind of how, sir, my concern is that they're going to be in the South, and then

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when a call comes up, they're coming up here, because they have to take them.

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But I don't, my concern is not that they're going to be up here.

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So what does that do for us?

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Well right now, we're running one officer on a night shift, and we rely on the backup

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of the county.

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so as you can imagine one officer and one county deputy up here. Now that is

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exactly your concern is exactly what we're dealing with right now because it's

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something big pops off in Fairview right that requires both officers to be

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out here okay and then something pops off and found green even though it's the

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county's responsibility now the county's got a cut here or they got to call

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people out at home to come to this right depending on how big it is. But if they cut here you're

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leaving one and one right or you got to call people out. I think we have if has we have discussed

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if the county leaves a person in the north we're better. If they don't leave one in the new schedule

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that we put together we'll put one and another out at all times. So it won't be any different than what

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But we are relying on the county right now, but it will be us.

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So you would have two officers 24-7 out at all times.

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Now, to do that, this is where it's good and bad.

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To do that, it does take away from our admin.

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Our admin will be working shifts, which takes away

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from some admin responsibilities or some admin times.

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The good thing that we have worked out is, so for an example,

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I would take two shifts.

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Logan would take two shifts.

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Gary is the next one on he would take two shifts as well and that leads six shifts and we would put ourselves on

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Day shifts so we're out where we can do some of the admin responsibilities as well.

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So you'd be almost a double-do on the right-hand side of being out of control?

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Yeah and the good thing is is there's more officers in the county during those day shifts there's more officers around and

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I would patrols in the area. Exactly and we can cover those hours more with us too because

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unfortunately like if I'm working Monday and Tuesday Logan's probably gonna

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take off Monday but on Tuesday he's probably gonna be working admin stuff

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where I'm working day shift. What's the admin stuff? So it's stuff like

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scheduling there's a lot of stuff that comes into the office that we have to

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deal with there's unfortunately yeah there's honestly a lot so it's

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Surprising the more tickets you write the more complaints you get is there is there a need or reason to hire

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So no, I mean so I think we're good

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Obviously the more what I would say so with Logan being the deputy chief that has absolutely been a huge

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Really fought me because it was just me before doing all that stuff now Logan can come in

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I can kick him half the stuff and I deal with the other half right and there is a lot of fires that need put out

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that you don't really see, and my job is hopefully good enough that you guys don't get your complaints

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on the other side that I handle those with them, occasionally it does go to you and you have

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to deal with it pretty easily, but mostly the time we try to cut those down so they're

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just there, and we do, we get officer complaints, it's significantly gone up, but that's because

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we're significantly doing more, so there are stuff like that that come in and that's what

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the Admin stuff does, I'm not going to lie, cops are whiny.

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You know that.

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You were one of the worst ones.

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Oh, I'm just kidding.

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But cops are little whiny, so we have to deal with some

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of that stuff, and we'll get to that in a sec.

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You're going to have that stuff.

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Internal admin stuff.

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Yeah, talking to some people and getting some stuff done.

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Grants that we keep track of, and there's a lot of stuff.

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So, I think we can still handle that, and why I mean by that is, two of my days would

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be patrol, two of them would be admin during the week, right, which I can still help out

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on the days that were patrol. Two of his days would be patrol, two of them would be admin

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on different days. Gary, two of them would be patrol, but two of them would be investigations.

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Now if Gary gets overloaded, that relies on me and him to pick his stuff up.

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So, you know, in one way, and I'm going to flip this again.

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Maybe I'm wrong, Danny.

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You correct me, but it's like, if I was the officer and seeing you guys out patrol,

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it does something for me as an officer to say, hey, my bosses are out doing the same thing

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I'm doing, and they're not kicked back all the time.

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Not going to lie.

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So it does put a perspective on that.

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When your chief comes out and makes three or four stops, you're like, oh my gosh, I didn't

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make it too.

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And they get on top of things a little bit.

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So there is there is some of that stuff that that does health and it motivates right night

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I've always said it if I'm not willing to do it. I don't expect my guys to do it

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So I need to be out there doing it a little bit too

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So I do think that helps a little bit day shift is where that's got to be

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Because if it's night shift, we, I mean, you can imagine, work a six, you work a six, eight, two days ago. Yeah. I worked out what, like one. Yeah. And carry, called me at eight. I told her, don't call Steve. He just wrote a graveyard. She sent him a text at nine. I was up at nine. And we were over and found green shortly after. But anyway, so it's one of those things. Now, what does fountain green do for us? Fountain greens call volume is extremely lower than anywhere else.

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It is by far the lowest in the county. It's lower in spring city. It's lower than

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That's amazing. It is. It's low. I don't know why

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But it is low now

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Do you know why?

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So I started in Foundry, my first job. Okay, I worked four years in Foundry and

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It wasn't always that way, right

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So it depends on my view. I believe it depends on the price of metal

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It depends on the volume of methane

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and fed him in this, so what you think is a calm place can turn up sight down in a month.

433
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,600
Now, depending on who moves in, I remember three burglaries a night.

434
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:12,600
Oh yeah, it was non-stop nights.

435
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Now one other time you'd go a whole month without hearing calls from him.

436
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,780
Now one thing I will tell you is that I worked in Moroni.

437
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,660
Moroni was very calm before I got there.

438
00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:28,060
I got there, it was absolutely insane.

439
00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:32,700
And then when I left Bob Hill came in, it was a little insane then too

440
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,920
And then the sheriff's office took over and it's been more calm

441
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Now

442
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:46,240
You think that that would be like well, so you would think that that would be because things get knocked down

443
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:52,740
I think it's the opposite. I think it's because the citizens feel like they can't call so they don't call

444
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:58,380
They'll come kind of think yeah, so they don't call they see a crisis so when they see a presence and they see officers

445
00:31:58,380 --> 00:32:01,740
There they feel like they have the support and they just the other night

446
00:32:01,740 --> 00:32:09,780
I got called in a minute section at 930 because he saw me drive by yeah, that's like got you so I do think that a 930 fountain green has

447
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:15,860
Not been that way since you've been there so it's been low. There is a possibility that it increases now

448
00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:18,760
We are yes, so we anticipate that so

449
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:25,280
right now they are low but they are going to be one of the biggest traffic things

450
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,760
right now there because there hasn't been a lot of traffic enforcement and

451
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,540
from what I see there's a lot of stuff there. So you are going to be proactively

452
00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:39,840
more in fountain green. You can't go to the fountain green. You can't.

453
00:32:43,580 --> 00:32:48,740
So the officers wise over there, it's going to be a little bit different kind of patrol

454
00:32:48,740 --> 00:32:49,500
probably, right?

455
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:50,380
More proactive.

456
00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:54,000
With that said, what do they do for us?

457
00:32:54,900 --> 00:33:02,340
Well, with that new full-time position that they provide, it takes away the six shifts that

458
00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:02,680
be added.

459
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,780
So it would take out four of those six.

460
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,100
So you'd have two new officers with these.

461
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:15,200
We would have two new officers with both with understanding that in progressing we're going to get even another one.

462
00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:22,160
Which honestly, if there's two, like me and you can still do it and if Tidwell is free, then he can swap us if he needs to.

463
00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:26,420
But if he gets swamped, I don't want that to get neglected too.

464
00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:28,840
Unless the other thing too, you guys think we're picking up two cities.

465
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,200
That's the new increased history.

466
00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:37,880
And it will. It's streaky. It's all the sudden. He's got a bell knocked out and then he's got. And when he gets overwhelmed,

467
00:33:38,380 --> 00:33:42,900
not gonna lie, when he gets overwhelmed, he gets overwhelmed. So like it all comes in at once.

468
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:51,120
The only good thing that I will tell you is that we have three detectives, really. I mean, we've all done it. We just have to pick up the loads,

469
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,500
which we haven't done. And so Tidwell's kind of been doing it. We'll pick up that load. So I think we can make it work.

470
00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:04,100
the fountain green is intriguing because it allows us to then free ourselves up

471
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:10,800
again with two out at all time. Now is the fountain green rate just based on

472
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:17,060
per citizen? No. So it's a different it's all three are completely different

473
00:34:17,060 --> 00:34:21,840
right? They're probably closer to the per citizen than we're only is. No, they're

474
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,200
opposite. They are lower. They are the lowest. They have the most more population.

475
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,740
They have, because of the new census, which was 1,300, they're almost where Fairview is,

476
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,740
but they are paying significantly less than Fairview.

477
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:38,680
So that's where obviously they don't get the service that Fairview gets.

478
00:34:39,460 --> 00:34:45,640
On the other side of that, theirs is based on the contract in which this year's office

479
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,000
has.

480
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,180
We went a little more than what they have, and providing a little more service.

481
00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:53,720
I think you get, I think it's just to do what you're saying.

482
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:56,520
and I think it's good to go to meet with them and work with you, man.

483
00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:58,140
I think so and kind of work it out.

484
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,460
Now the proposal, they're in put a little bit, too.

485
00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:01,840
And maybe they don't want it.

486
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,760
The proposal I gave them was along the same lines

487
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,400
that we originally verbally quoted them.

488
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,840
I made it to 130.

489
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,640
It was the high end.

490
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,680
So they're paying 125 now.

491
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,960
It'd be 130, 5,000 more.

492
00:35:15,620 --> 00:35:16,860
Increase in gas price.

493
00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:17,620
Yeah.

494
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:18,320
What do you got?

495
00:35:18,620 --> 00:35:19,160
Travel time over there.

496
00:35:19,180 --> 00:35:20,160
Well, that's part of it.

497
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:50,000
So with it said how I feel like we would do it right now is during the what we have right now we have one officer on that roams between the two cities right and then at night we roam between the two cities we try to give each one more when the admin comes on or we have a swing shift we rotate each to the two cities right and and I'm not going to lie if he saw us on Sunday it was it was original so I'll just look forward to it.

498
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,820
It was like my gosh, I mean we and Drake kind of just drove around because it was kind of like they we can't stop

499
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:59,760
Anything because there was five of us out and it was it was covering state funded

500
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,480
She is and stuff and I was like my gosh, I can't even go. There's two in Fairview right now

501
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,720
There's two in my pleasant. We're just gonna roll around and drive

502
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,620
You heard me and Tidwell and look oh, it was yeah, there was no competing

503
00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:17,180
It was like our citizens would have felt absolutely picked on because you guys were stopping the same cars

504
00:36:17,180 --> 00:36:23,980
just when he in here, and then they went there and he stopped saying, oh, it was a steady stuff.

505
00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:26,060
It was like, we've been full over. We're good.

506
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:31,860
Oh, yeah, it was like, it was rough.

507
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,880
Somebody, having forbid somebody driving through with a tail like that night out.

508
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:45,340
So it was like sometimes these state punishes hurt or not hurt, but like, it's over.

509
00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:50,080
It's a lot off I've not had any citizens though when I've told him kind of what the deal is yeah

510
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,360
They don't have like they're not mad, you know what I mean drunk or have met and yeah, they're probably gonna be mad

511
00:36:58,460 --> 00:37:03,720
Exactly right so what what I think that would change is that

512
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,500
Because of the two-out you're this

513
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,320
And one this way and one this way right now

514
00:37:12,180 --> 00:37:16,720
your two cities basically we're not going to let that service do it so we're

515
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:23,020
talking about one shift this way and then yes now the interesting thing about it

516
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:30,020
is that no time we can't have this and this too far away right so we got to

517
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:35,040
have this yeah it is a lot of planning we have to have this or we have to have

518
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,380
this or we have to have this or this so it's going to be a lot of

519
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,580
communication, and how many hours do you do one day?

520
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,340
I wish he hadn't served over here for a while.

521
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Well, so if you did this, the only problem with this

522
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,820
is if this one calls for hell.

523
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Which is time when I had to look at this.

524
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,720
About 20 minutes, right, faster if you're here.

525
00:37:54,740 --> 00:37:56,320
Faster, probably 15 code.

526
00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:58,360
What is it from to get to Manta?

527
00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:00,360
Well, I'm not going to lie.

528
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,020
You know, you're right.

529
00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:03,520
I've got to Manta 15 before.

530
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:03,960
Yeah.

531
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:05,740
I'm not saying it's not any different than this time of year.

532
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,500
It's not any Manta.

533
00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:07,980
It's not, sorry.

534
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,520
It is not any different.

535
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,260
You're right.

536
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,740
And was you coding it to the temple this morning?

537
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,380
Probably was.

538
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,540
It is not any different.

539
00:38:15,820 --> 00:38:16,960
Don't show it anywhere.

540
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:22,220
The only concern that I have it all is for our officers, right?

541
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:29,280
I mean, the call, I get it, if it's in progress, we get there, and we get there as fast as

542
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:29,760
we can.

543
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,040
They change the standards on code, right?

544
00:38:32,260 --> 00:38:32,600
They did.

545
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,460
Yeah.

546
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,920
So as long as you stay within the standards that have been implemented.

547
00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:36,800
Then you're good.

548
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Yep.

549
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:53,100
That's what I was going to say, that's my concern too, is the response of having one officer show up for, again, 20 minutes, either direction, it's like that is a long time to be on your own at times, and that is, that is the worst, but I think we can alleviate that was some of this.

550
00:38:53,220 --> 00:39:00,040
The other night when Steve was working on that graveyard, the county deputy was up here, his computer took a crap, so he had to go clear the jail to do reports.

551
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:00,700
That is true.

552
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:06,500
So Steve's back up was in Mantae and we knew that and it's not just and let me

553
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,700
That's probably more often than we know. All right y'all ended all the time

554
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:12,740
Yeah, it was a let me let me just throw this out on the other side

555
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,900
With our back up being that here's the scary thing. It's not just us

556
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,620
Because if it's a life threatening call in San Indi Nola, we're going

557
00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:30,040
So you're going to Indian Ola and you're holding it tell they come from Mantae

558
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:30,220
Right.

559
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,200
And so that's a significantly long time to be holding out there or a thing till they

560
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:35,540
get there.

561
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:43,140
This, for us, I feel like the most safest thing we can do for our officers, like we talked

562
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:43,580
about it.

563
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Can we go on call?

564
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:52,840
Can we put one working from two until six, only one out for three cities without found

565
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,320
green, only one there, but putting one on call?

566
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,700
and the answer is it's not the call necessarily because the officer can get

567
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:04,760
there within 15 minutes and I do believe they'll still get there on the call.

568
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,360
It's the backup. And if we do that and the Sheriff's and Mantae, our closest

569
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,120
is getting called out from home. And I feel better about somebody running code

570
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,920
worst-case scenario from Mount Pleasant to Fountain Green, right, and back in our

571
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,560
officer than the other side. How's the how's the relationship with Colby and

572
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Ephraim? Is there anything there? No. No, it's good. Colby is good. So Colby

573
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,820
sends his people. So so you're aware this is this is where we have this the

574
00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:39,000
other day with Trevor. Sorry and I'm probably keeping you guys but we have this

575
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,680
with Trevor the other day. Trevor got in a 1080 which is a high-speed chase at

576
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,700
430 in the morning. County was not on. They had checked off. They checked off at

577
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:54,540
for. 4.30 in the morning, worst case scenario in Mount Pleasant, and he was out, and the

578
00:40:54,540 --> 00:41:00,500
scary thing is, because you've been a cop. The car pulled up, let three people out of

579
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:04,720
the car. So that's your worst nightmare. You've got people in the car, you've got people

580
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:08,700
out of the car, and then here's another worst case scenario for you. The car went a block

581
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:12,220
and stopped. So now, you've got to worry about that.

582
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:15,800
You've got to get that boost, that's the room that we're up here, and he had three in

583
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,760
car here so he's got to worry about what's coming up behind him and what's coming in front

584
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,180
of them.

585
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,980
That didn't end in ruin.

586
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,980
It ended here.

587
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:25,180
That sounds so much like a mirror make up.

588
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Right, but it was.

589
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:26,500
Yeah.

590
00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:33,560
So Trevor's at a gunpoint trying to call three people back to him at gunpoint, right?

591
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:39,900
Well, so as he's trying to call people back, they're calling back up and the only available is

592
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:41,260
Ephraim because they're the only ones out.

593
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,440
So Ephraim didn't do a bad job, Ephraim ran coat all the way to him, the officer jumped

594
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,120
on and he ran coat all the way to him.

595
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:54,780
They called me out and I drew on my clothes and my vest and hauled out of my house and

596
00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:56,920
ran coat basically down to him.

597
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:00,580
Now he had them all in custody by the time I got there, but when I pulled up sort of the

598
00:42:00,580 --> 00:42:01,000
Ephraim guy.

599
00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:06,860
So calling me out was at the same time as the Ephraim guy getting there.

600
00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:13,160
I think if that happened and we had another officer even in fountain green, he's there before anybody else

601
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,780
Does that make sense? At the farthest situation, I still think he's there

602
00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:21,100
And the nice thing with the E from two is two other cops live in the mountain

603
00:42:22,060 --> 00:42:23,100
Yeah, oh my god

604
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,520
Can't see an end or yeah, both live in the mountain

605
00:42:25,940 --> 00:42:32,300
So like there's a time when Trevor got a guy with one so like right when a ship was about to start and

606
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:35,360
and chancing stuff because she was on her way to work.

607
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:39,280
So she was there right away, so we didn't keep you from happy,

608
00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:40,660
like a good relationship.

609
00:42:41,620 --> 00:42:43,460
Yeah, it's been a good, it'll be a long time.

610
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,200
He's pretty sensible.

611
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:44,600
Yeah.

612
00:42:44,660 --> 00:42:45,520
And he's been good.

613
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,380
He's been really good.

614
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,000
And we've helped them out several times.

615
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,180
And the K-9 actually involves them quite a bit.

616
00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:53,260
So it's actually been a good thing.

617
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,720
So if you guys are okay with it, when the work meeting comes up,

618
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,040
we'll grab Mike and Brad and put that together and go meet with them and see where they're

619
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:01,220
at.

620
00:43:01,220 --> 00:43:06,720
But that's kind of where things are with them. So I do think it gives advantages. It's a little harder not gonna lie

621
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:14,680
They're time frames probably July 1st. They're gonna want you for Lambie. They'll want us for lamb days, which then it's in the mid

622
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,440
It's in the middle

623
00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:22,040
So we'll be telling you guys quit taking vacation

624
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,420
It's in the middle

625
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:29,160
So how could we help there? That's one question I wanted to bring up. Is there any way you could I?

626
00:43:30,340 --> 00:43:31,160
I don't know.

627
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:37,100
This is some way that, like, with later figures or ass or something like that.

628
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,360
So no, we're not there to support, right?

629
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:39,620
Yeah.

630
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,320
But I honestly think, like, it sounds bad.

631
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,240
It really does.

632
00:43:44,380 --> 00:43:49,280
When you put it all on paper, because, I mean, let's be honest, we're now officially in

633
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,540
a contract with Morally, right?

634
00:43:50,940 --> 00:43:51,180
We're there.

635
00:43:51,980 --> 00:43:55,800
Their stuff is on the 4th of July, just like Mount Pleasant stuff, right?

636
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,960
Fairviews won't be a problem because there's you stand alone

637
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:02,480
But on Mount Pleasants that's where it's in the contract, right?

638
00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:06,960
But we this is nothing. I promise you this is nothing we haven't done for years

639
00:44:07,820 --> 00:44:11,480
We haven't like working for fairview. I used to go over and help

640
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,440
Your own eye to do all the pretty. Yep, and the second you're done

641
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,500
You jump in line and you go the back way and we make it a Mount Pleasant in time to get a Mount Pleasant

642
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:25,140
That's what I'm just saying though. Yeah, there's got to be some way that we could help there is

643
00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:31,540
I mean there's a lot of control. Well, so that's so if all the cities like I'm not gonna lie if we all join together

644
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:35,720
And we all go over there and we do some things obviously your responsibilities are there

645
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:40,840
But fairview has free, right? Yeah, so maybe we get some of the city council that we can go over and help our own

646
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,360
I for their stuff and we bolt over to Mount Pleasant help them and then when we're done with that just like you did last year

647
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,680
Mount Pleasant jumps up and helps fairview do theirs

648
00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:53,240
So I agree with that just to have a schedule even yeah, just to move around just

649
00:44:54,180 --> 00:44:56,460
You know prior day or two

650
00:44:56,460 --> 00:44:59,460
Make a schedule and place volunteers from the council

651
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,800
Just some vests that we could wear and help put the roll close signs up or some of that stuff, some of that stuff, you want to say, and it isn't too, yeah. So one positive there, we'll tell you, this increases our force to 10, 10 full time officers, which makes us the largest force in the county, basically, other than the sheriff's office, right? So with both of them, we're the largest force in the county. If we need six, which that's about what we use, it's six for the parade.

652
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,300
We double-load it when we can't but six to get mountain pleasant parade done

653
00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:42,640
Merronize never had fire never had five over there, you know, you know, I mean they didn't it's just not been there

654
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,620
So half hour difference so now it's an hour difference between start so we make it

655
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:56,920
You pull the first guys off of the parade when it's more it's more what I see myself is like I'm saying thrown up

656
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,000
close science because we'd almost have to throw the road close sign up down on

657
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,420
5th West and start correcting traffic in the direction. Before you guys got here.

658
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:09,020
Yeah, but you're going to still have I think in that situation we're going to have

659
00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:14,280
five four or five over there and six over here five. So technically your

660
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,080
closing state highlights. There's a couple of killer bees that should show up and

661
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,880
help a little too. Yeah, and that's true. And so those are things that we can

662
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,720
write out. Now I think the ship I think the sheriff's department ought to help

663
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:33,460
So in Fairview they did for years, they helped for years until we took over and then we had enough manpower that we were going to show you in the last year.

664
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,240
He's going to be, I'm not going to lie, he's going to be frought in the center this year at every one of them.

665
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:39,540
He'll be in the parade, he'll be in the parade.

666
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,880
I don't know how I'll see any help out of the county.

667
00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:45,300
You'll see him waving, that's about it.

668
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:47,840
It's a presence.

669
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:51,160
That's the weird thing about the sheriff being an elected position.

670
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,420
It puts him in a weird spot anyways, but they're gonna be butter, but there's no way they won't be

671
00:46:56,420 --> 00:46:59,360
How do they their deputies are gonna be?

672
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,740
Any different as long as they're

673
00:47:03,540 --> 00:47:04,820
But because they're losing the contract

674
00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:11,100
Yeah, as long as the sheriff doesn't make them be pleased. He's acting like he's acting like it's really good

675
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:17,020
He is but behind the scenes. I don't know. I mean like he's he's gonna lose

676
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:20,900
Yeah, I mean he can't it can't not hurt 300,000

677
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,180
Even so yeah, you're good. We still we don't have to vote on anything. We're still good to roll

678
00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:36,800
What's up? I'm sure they're good to let some siren man. Go for it real quick. Can I two minutes? Yeah, okay, all right. Okay, with this said

679
00:47:38,060 --> 00:47:38,480
um

680
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,080
I need your guys approval

681
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:42,120
so

682
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:49,060
Without a doubt we're going to be running a night shift. We're going to have people out as we have found in the last little bit

683
00:47:49,060 --> 00:47:51,400
that we have some new officers out there

684
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,480
working by themselves right now.

685
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,000
Some of those officers are making some decisions

686
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,480
that, not that they're terrible decisions,

687
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:03,160
they're just not, exactly where they're not

688
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,040
experienced decisions.

689
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:07,580
So, I need to make some supervisors.

690
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,400
Okay, with the supervisors that will put a supervisor

691
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,240
on every shift.

692
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640
We did the math on this and we looked it up

693
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,120
and one of those would be John Blackburn

694
00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:24,940
that we're looking at, John to increase John

695
00:48:24,940 --> 00:48:28,680
to a supervisor position, it will cost us $6,000 a year.

696
00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:31,300
However, we don't pay holidays out.

697
00:48:31,940 --> 00:48:33,820
So the holiday save $4,000.

698
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,600
And so it's only going to cost

699
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,520
because he will be going to a salary basis.

700
00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:41,060
So it's only going to cost us $2,000 a year

701
00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:43,520
to put him as a supervisor in the department.

702
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:46,080
The other supervisor we're looking at is Gary Tidwell,

703
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,680
which his position already is a supervisor level, it would just give him the rank.

704
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,620
And we've looked anywhere from 50 cents an hour to $1 an hour, worst case scenario is $3,000.

705
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:05,040
So for $5,000 I'll put two supervisors on the road that have, that are put on a, what is it?

706
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,700
Exempt position, they don't get overtime.

707
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:15,080
They work a salary position and it actually is not very cost money.

708
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:22,740
money organ. Okay, one question. Can we do that where it's not on the agenda? So, I think that is

709
00:49:23,540 --> 00:49:29,660
correct me if I'm wrong. I think that is something within our budget and I think it's within

710
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:37,540
us to be able to do it as a department. That was one thing I was just question. Okay, so I was just

711
00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:43,360
kind of over talking money and it's not on the agenda. No, and it's not, but I do believe that it is

712
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,460
within the budget and especially with the budget coming in it allows us to do

713
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:53,320
that but I just would like like your straw poll if you're okay with that. Oh I

714
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:59,240
think you. I'll wait for you. I promise you there was nothing more. Well that's

715
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,700
a morale builder for you guys come taking on this new responsibility and new

716
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:08,040
officers it's that's just the growth. It is and it does allow the working

717
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,700
position. They're working positions. I am so against office sergeants I love

718
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:19,060
They are not they are and I'm not going to lie John was the question with this canine because John gets called out right every time

719
00:50:19,060 --> 00:50:21,360
He gets called out. It's a two-hour minimum

720
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:28,920
So John gets called out he makes two hours which means it's two hours over time that we have to pay we have not done a lot of that

721
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,040
Because of that situation will now John

722
00:50:33,140 --> 00:50:39,400
Goes to salary and he doesn't get paid and he's very aware that you'll get called out and I get paid

723
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:48,240
So that would increase him $2 an hour up to where Den is and I'll be honest with you kind of know John's background

724
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:56,120
Yes, I do. He kind of got a little shaft there for anyone this fix is that wrong. I believe so they don't know what they think there's only one

725
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Sergeant, but we're probably going to promote too. Okay. Did you guys are good? Somebody want to make that motion? I mean last time.

726
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:09,120
I'll make that one tonight. I approve that. We make two. We make two sergeants basically is what we're saying with.

727
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:15,400
Yeah, and they're working so they are working as a crucial point. They are working. Sorry. They will be out on patrol or in

728
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:23,980
Investigation that will make them a salary position salary position. Do you second it anyway second? Okay, motion by Mike second by Daniel

729
00:51:24,820 --> 00:51:26,380
Better do a roll call

730
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:31,980
Mayor Michael. Yes, my greatest Daniel. I'm serious

731
00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:34,940
You can be my answer

732
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:47,160
position. When's that effective? Immediately. So I'm not going to lie. Anybody

733
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,120
available? I would suggest you go the next paper. Well, so they won't. The salary will not go

734
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,340
to the next paper. Okay. That's what I was going to say. Effective the next. Yes. Yes.

735
00:51:55,460 --> 00:52:00,060
Yes. And it may be even two papers. We'll have to see. So we already got applicants for

736
00:52:00,060 --> 00:52:06,320
the new position. We have already had about on not going to lie 10 people for the new

737
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,740
with Moroni or Sardin.

738
00:52:07,780 --> 00:52:10,700
For Moroni, we have about 10 people interested.

739
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:13,280
We are actively as they just heard that it's probably

740
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:13,540
happened.

741
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:15,260
So another question.

742
00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:17,980
Do we have to advertise Sardin position

743
00:52:17,980 --> 00:52:20,080
or can we just know we can just do it?

744
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:20,500
OK.

745
00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:21,600
Yeah, yeah.

746
00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:23,360
So we're going to put them through a ringer.

747
00:52:23,420 --> 00:52:24,260
They just don't know it yet.

748
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,060
So if you are available tomorrow at any time,

749
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,840
I don't know if you are anybody that would like to participate,

750
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,940
it's going to be fast.

751
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:31,920
It won't be long.

752
00:52:32,260 --> 00:52:34,120
We're just going to put them through heck for about an hour

753
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,320
and then just let me bring them in.

754
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:37,480
OK, I'll text you.

755
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,640
It'd probably be around 12-ish, OK?

756
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,380
So we're just going to put them through hack and think

757
00:52:42,380 --> 00:52:43,840
they're going to make an interview through.

758
00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:44,640
We are.

759
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,080
They're stressed.

760
00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:47,800
And then tell them, I want them to.

761
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,820
OK, I've got a right point.

762
00:52:48,820 --> 00:52:50,140
Sorry, I want them to do what I want them to do.

763
00:52:50,180 --> 00:52:51,940
I want them to see a line of mix under their nose.

764
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,940
So you can do our work session if you want.

765
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,380
My point is to continue tonight.

766
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,020
I have to answer all the questions.

767
00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:58,880
If you do that, then answer.

768
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,620
We're going to do a buzzer, though.

769
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:19,620
So yeah, that'll those will be good things and we'll put them through a little bit of stress with some questions tomorrow, but ultimately they don't know it and they have put letters of interest in thinking it's one position and it'll be both.

770
00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:26,760
Okay, so both of them are the only two qualified early to do it. Well, it's probably pretty I mean for the department

771
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Just kind of exciting the gross happening a little bit of promotion. Well, and just to see and I mean we can talk about it now

772
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,840
I mean Mike Mike already knows about it. So John actually

773
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:43,900
John was in a position when you left I didn't know you didn't sorry

774
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:45,660
It was when Jim was retiring.

775
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:51,640
When Jim was retiring, they put another chief in place for short period time, and he promoted

776
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,300
two individuals.

777
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,880
He promoted Ben as a sergeant, and he promoted John as a sergeant.

778
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:08,280
And when he, that chief stepped down from his position, Jim Wilberg took back over the

779
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:16,360
department and declined one sergeant position, but upheld the other one. And so the one officer

780
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:21,020
has had a hard time in the last few years knowing that he was promoted and then basically told

781
00:54:21,020 --> 00:54:28,100
it wasn't upheld. And honestly, between all of it, John actually probably was the most

782
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:35,500
promotable at the time. They just picked one. And so this will probably write a wrong that was

783
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,640
done in the amount but even though we're a different department. Yeah, it probably writes

784
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,280
it wrong. So the 10 that you're interested, I mean, they're pretty good candidates.

785
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,620
So we have three internal right now that we do not, we can just hire. We do not even

786
00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:53,660
have to test. We do not have to do anything. They're like, so they already part-time work

787
00:54:53,660 --> 00:54:58,080
for us. So we don't even have to have a process. We could take them. All three of them have

788
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,380
put in like interest for it. We actually have four, but one of them didn't put in.

789
00:55:02,380 --> 00:55:11,200
So for part time three put it so all three want it there I'm not going to lie to you.

790
00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:16,220
There's a dangling carrot out there on some officers that would be phenomenal.

791
00:55:17,820 --> 00:55:25,400
We have to have a process internally and then off of the last hiring list we have an officer

792
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,820
on that last hiring list that looks good I've already talked to the city's HRs and we found

793
00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:34,740
out that technically, I mean, any of them applying we don't want them. We don't have to do anything.

794
00:55:35,020 --> 00:55:41,360
We can open it up externally. There's a couple dangling carrots out there that if they decide to

795
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:48,800
do it, they would be worth maybe opening up. So, but we have a lot of interest in it. A lot. So,

796
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:52,760
and everyone certified, which is funny because he from can't even get anybody certified.

797
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,460
They opened it, they've opened it up twice and the only one was Daniel.

798
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:10,380
It's kind of interesting because we are getting a lot and Cher's office couldn't hire you from can't hire right now and merges

799
00:56:10,380 --> 00:56:16,380
I don't know. I just think it's I think it's just cool. I mean I think it's really a good department people hear about it

800
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:25,760
Just the growth and the way it's being handled. We have people from Utah County that have reached out. We have people from Nephi that reached out

801
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:32,200
couple of them for me by so it's not we're gonna have our back. Yeah it's great. And I think

802
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:39,860
couple things. Now what John the interesting thing is John has been our sniper on like sniper

803
00:56:39,860 --> 00:56:45,200
trained and had a sniper rifle for four years and it was so funny because before I even talked to

804
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:51,900
John about it he's like you know I've done this if the new person wants to come in and they're the

805
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:55,420
right person I'll train them and I'll give those over and I'm like that's a

806
00:56:55,420 --> 00:57:00,160
supervisor yeah so it's kind of interesting to see and kind of step up the

807
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:08,260
title so but now it's good and so I just I'm found in green they they kind of

808
00:57:08,260 --> 00:57:11,160
see the writing on the wall that's why there's coming I mean I'm sure they're

809
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:18,720
worried about being left to an island out there it's interesting because you're

810
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:24,640
exactly right. So we told them we told them we could not take when we met with them the first time

811
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:31,620
with Brad, we flat out told him we cannot take you unless Maroni comes. And if Maroni comes then

812
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:36,560
we can take you if Maroni doesn't come we can't take you because you're out on nylon. I would say

813
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:42,020
that's got to be the way the sheriff's thing can take. It's like you're out on a nylon. So like and

814
00:57:42,020 --> 00:57:46,920
that might be why it's being pushed. They were very interested in Maroni obviously

815
00:57:47,620 --> 00:57:54,840
from the text messages, the minute they found out Moroni took it, they voted to reach out to us too.

816
00:57:55,100 --> 00:58:00,420
So I do anticipate that coming. The only bummer is that it's just not another truck.

817
00:58:00,940 --> 00:58:09,820
Yeah. That's the only bummer. They had that. But with the other one, with Moroni and what we're doing there, I think we can save some money.

818
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:15,420
Plus we have some time. Moroni knows that we should be able to fill it out.

819
00:58:15,420 --> 00:58:16,040
No, we're good.

820
00:58:16,140 --> 00:58:17,320
Traffic gets the new truck.

821
00:58:17,620 --> 00:58:22,200
Traffic gets Maroni's old truck, then whoever we hire for found green can have Trevor's

822
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,340
truck.

823
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:25,780
Well, you're hire Maroni and then found green.

824
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Push comes to shove.

825
00:58:26,940 --> 00:58:27,860
You can always hockseed it.

826
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:28,560
You can.

827
00:58:28,860 --> 00:58:29,320
And we can...

828
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:29,740
Was that me?

829
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Jumping vehicles.

830
00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:34,980
When you're down to your ship, you leave the park and somebody else hops in.

831
00:58:35,340 --> 00:58:35,420
Oh yeah.

832
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,020
Yeah.

833
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:38,440
And that's a good thing.

834
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:38,560
That's a good thing, dude.

835
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,200
I sometimes just because of mechanic.

836
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:40,940
Yeah.

837
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,840
You had your go-bag and your stuff and you just swap it out.

838
00:58:43,940 --> 00:58:44,920
The big city did all the time.

839
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,100
You don't get a car and we have opportunity to our SRO is done

840
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:50,680
BNS are all the anime

841
00:58:51,660 --> 00:58:56,860
And his truck sets so we got his truck from May until it's our august

842
00:58:56,860 --> 00:59:05,860
He did last year gonna go full time, but yeah, so he worked full time all summer and we have used him

843
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,820
But you won't get that this summer. I don't know

844
00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:12,260
He would be handy for

845
00:59:12,260 --> 00:59:14,660
events. He doesn't like patrol.

846
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:20,660
This is my opinion but full-time positions pay out

847
00:59:20,660 --> 00:59:27,580
better. I know. I think the problem was was that was such an housing. I'm sure it

848
00:59:27,580 --> 00:59:33,960
was. And I and you know my feeling on that I mean what's he got less than 10

849
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:40,060
to finish out his pension. It would be yeah I don't know why he doesn't do that

850
00:59:40,060 --> 00:59:44,780
because he's been doing SRO for like 13 years part-time and if you do it at full

851
00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:51,340
time he would have been his pension would be done and that's his choice and it is and so

852
00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:55,780
and then we just have to wait and see we have to wait and see what the county decides to do

853
00:59:55,780 --> 00:59:59,460
because that is one of the biggest bonuses of the SRO during the summer you have helped

854
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,120
It is. Now we do have a tricky situation that we're trying to handle internally right now, but we have an officer that's been in three crashes. I know the truck breaks down. They're not getting anyone. It seems to break down every time it's driven. It's getting to the point that we got to decide what we're going to do. Now this officer a few weeks ago probably was a shoe in for our opening and now we're kind of looking at that.

855
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,800
I mean, things to look at, right?

856
01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:37,880
That officer makes, I'm gonna guess, he's gonna look it up later, but we'd think 30 to 40 a year.

857
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:46,700
One way or another, about 30 to 40 will be cleared up, which allows potentially Jeff in the summer to cover some shifts.

858
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:52,460
It also could be something we save for the future or it could be.

859
01:00:52,460 --> 01:01:01,280
because I could see him especially with it if it all works out the way it is and he's not alone but the

860
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,660
trolling you know that was great there's where he was all along that was true most of the holidays

861
01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:11,940
are almost to give him like I know yeah because I remember back in the day like the fourth is like

862
01:01:11,940 --> 01:01:15,620
nobody got the fourth off it doesn't matter if it landed on your rotation you're not gonna get the

863
01:01:15,620 --> 01:01:19,820
fourth off so we have to work the week of the fourth and the week of the 24th are absolutely

864
01:01:19,820 --> 01:01:24,640
blackout dates. Nobody can take those days off. But right now, we didn't anticipate found green.

865
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,300
Yeah, I think we have an officer. No, I think you had two over there doing full patrol three

866
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,400
line days. You probably be all right. That's probably even too much. They don't even have that now.

867
01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:38,700
Really? If you can handle the, if you can handle the parade, it cools down for a little bit.

868
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:45,460
And have like, yeah, it's just in the park. Yeah, you walk the park. They don't have the all-night

869
01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:49,480
dance is any more they've got alcohol banned you just got to hang out wash

870
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,840
them softball eat some sandwiches top to people maybe one guy and then another

871
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,600
guy coming in once in a while yeah although they do serve that month and

872
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:07,900
sandwich well I'm sorry you don't have any taste so here's my here's my business

873
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:18,520
And I haven't learned enough to know kind of how the revenue works, but how much, I mean,

874
01:02:18,580 --> 01:02:22,320
you guys are going to patrol more, you're going to make more revenue in both cities, you

875
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,580
know, once this is done, right?

876
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,000
Yes.

877
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,340
So it's going to overcome, you know, plus what they're paying, I mean, it's going to be good,

878
01:02:30,340 --> 01:02:30,540
right?

879
01:02:30,540 --> 01:02:39,600
Yeah, so I I'm not gonna lie. So that is why I've said to every one of them. This is a great start

880
01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:41,840
But you guys need to realize

881
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:47,810
How do you say it this way? So I'll tell you what the pitch I told my own

882
01:02:47,810 --> 01:02:50,870
I now found greens gonna be a little bit different because they went from

883
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:56,150
Paying their officer the absolute lowest wage in the entire state

884
01:02:56,150 --> 01:03:02,470
They were the lowest and they went from paying that officer to like a $40,000 increase to the county

885
01:03:03,010 --> 01:03:06,910
So they're looking at that and now they're looking at us. It go on just 5,000, right?

886
01:03:08,170 --> 01:03:11,770
Which like I said paid for the amount of service they get

887
01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:17,810
Where the best way to describe is is Maroni

888
01:03:18,410 --> 01:03:22,730
Maroni had a budget. It was equal to Fairview. They were identical when I left

889
01:03:23,590 --> 01:03:39,950
which was five or six years ago. When I left, they were identical. Fairview came over and every year they bumped theirs up and they went up and they went up until they were able to get exactly two officers what's needed and then to contract with us, right?

890
01:03:40,450 --> 01:03:44,810
At a two officer plan. Moronized population went up and they did this.

891
01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:53,990
Yeah. Going to the very minimal. They're people that are running their city now know that

892
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:59,550
that was an absolutely horrific and not safe thing. They told me that they stayed up at

893
01:03:59,550 --> 01:04:04,090
nice, just worrying about, this is where we are, we know it's not good, what are we going

894
01:04:04,090 --> 01:04:09,570
to do. So now they're viewing this up to where they were, maybe one step higher and more

895
01:04:09,570 --> 01:04:16,910
they were, but they know they've got to get here. Now with that, they also anticipate, I told them,

896
01:04:17,110 --> 01:04:21,830
don't count on your budget with the revenue that comes in, but how can you not? I mean, you have to

897
01:04:21,830 --> 01:04:25,710
look out. Yeah, you have to, right? A little bit. I mean, yeah, the more tickets you're right,

898
01:04:25,810 --> 01:04:31,230
though, the more criminal or attorney fees you've got to pay, the more there is true to that. Everything

899
01:04:31,230 --> 01:04:39,270
goes out, so everything does. This is what we looked at. We are, Fairview is at the exact same point

900
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:46,410
that they were last year right now. So we anticipate a 30% increase in ticket revenue from

901
01:04:47,570 --> 01:04:54,690
Mount Pleasant says the same. Exactly the same we increase 30% typically. So we anticipate them

902
01:04:54,690 --> 01:05:04,110
not at 30 because they're at 3000. We anticipate them at 1000 increase. I mean yeah, it's not uncommon

903
01:05:04,110 --> 01:05:09,590
and that they would be getting probably 30,000 revenue. That's what they were at a while ago.

904
01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:12,330
So that's not off the chart.

905
01:05:12,850 --> 01:05:15,110
Taking to make sure it's recording. I don't know if it's on or not.

906
01:05:16,850 --> 01:05:18,870
So it's not uncommon to see that.

907
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:25,570
Mountain Green explained to us that they're less than 10, too. So I'm sure that wouldn't be

908
01:05:25,570 --> 01:05:31,670
far-fetched to see them in the 32. So with that increase, that helps, but like you say there's

909
01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:36,450
cost to that, too. There is. But with that increase, and you're not wrong, there is

910
01:05:36,450 --> 01:05:41,890
cause there's still margin. There's margin. And so once that increase comes, I think you're

911
01:05:41,890 --> 01:05:47,410
going to see, I don't want you to think it's pure product. No, it's not because it will,

912
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:55,030
I think eventually with our fees and stuff. Yeah. But that will hopefully show it.

913
01:06:00,810 --> 01:06:01,650
What are

914
01:06:01,650 --> 01:06:02,390
or whatever you have.

915
01:06:02,570 --> 01:06:03,630
Yeah, great question.

916
01:06:03,790 --> 01:06:11,610
I'll probably teach Nova in three schools, or I'll take one, but no, legitimately it depends

917
01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:12,310
on the county.

918
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:13,510
Now, don't get me wrong.

919
01:06:13,630 --> 01:06:18,350
They're within our jurisdiction, so they are not going and they will not be in staff.

920
01:06:19,090 --> 01:06:23,190
We will be doing walkthroughs in every one of their schools every single day, just like we

921
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:23,530
do here.

922
01:06:24,550 --> 01:06:29,210
So you'll see them, I mean, some days, the accidents are circumstance, but we'll be there

923
01:06:29,210 --> 01:06:36,250
almost every day with that said the program will be taught rather county picks it up or we pick it

924
01:06:36,250 --> 01:06:41,810
up we will pick we'll teach it so I don't tell my wife too but she lets me know every time she sees

925
01:06:41,810 --> 01:06:49,730
one so she see a lot it's my place of which she says that somebody stopped by last time I went

926
01:06:49,730 --> 01:06:56,290
there she's like oh you just missed it well I was like you get doubled dope but she's not always

927
01:06:56,290 --> 01:07:00,230
sitting or front office. That don't mean they haven't been there. That just means that they didn't. I

928
01:07:00,230 --> 01:07:04,510
meant how you're I know that they were there today because I listen to them. I can tell you but it's

929
01:07:04,510 --> 01:07:11,310
recorded. I can tell you what to go. All right. It should be every day. All right.

930
01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:17,250
Because you know I'm there every day so I'll see him. So that's why I was wondering. Yes. So it should

931
01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:21,770
be every day unless there's some accidents. It should be every day at least. That's what the goal is.

932
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:28,710
So have the school districts or anybody that are they aware of this? No, not if they are

933
01:07:29,410 --> 01:07:35,550
Reached out, but just so you're wet. Neither were the attorneys because I called the attorney yesterday and said hey

934
01:07:35,550 --> 01:07:38,170
We're gonna start forwarding cases unless it's like what?

935
01:07:38,750 --> 01:07:46,810
When did this happen? I said today, so I just told you. Yeah, I'll find out cuz he's ending was on the phone Steve today

936
01:07:51,770 --> 01:07:58,990
the messier and your wife's coming tonight to do some article or something but yeah so that's kind

937
01:07:58,990 --> 01:08:04,670
of the plan so we won't leave them unscathed it'll be there and even if they only see them twice a

938
01:08:04,670 --> 01:08:09,770
week that's twice more than you see them now. I'm not saying that they're not there but they don't

939
01:08:09,770 --> 01:08:19,230
I'll be there but it rotates but my daughter is all excited because she thinks that we will be

940
01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:25,730
there. Like, hmm, she's not. She'll see like James when he drops his kids off or something, you know.

941
01:08:26,730 --> 01:08:30,190
No, it'll be good. It'll be good. The easiest thing, especially in the spring, is you stop by

942
01:08:30,190 --> 01:08:34,450
for around the kickball. Yeah. And that's the front of the kickball and those kids won't forget.

943
01:08:34,810 --> 01:08:38,830
And that's that's the thing. You show that, you show up or you play basketball with them and it's

944
01:08:38,830 --> 01:08:43,390
a totally big love that. Yeah, really great. So no, that's that's one of my big things and we'll just

945
01:08:43,390 --> 01:08:48,430
see what the county does. I mean, if I mean you know as well as I do, the county right now,

946
01:08:49,230 --> 01:09:01,690
The officer is in Maroni Middle School, and that is in the county, barely, but it is in the county is their jurisdiction, and then he services Maroni Elementary on Green Elementary in Spring City.

947
01:09:02,650 --> 01:09:09,810
So if we take two of them, the question is if they will continue to fund that position.

948
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:12,190
And we'll just have to see.

949
01:09:12,190 --> 01:09:15,470
Merona I ever been like annex that I

950
01:09:16,110 --> 01:09:18,270
Only if it doesn't a benefit so you'd have to

951
01:09:18,770 --> 01:09:22,630
Like just benefit this annexing a school do anything for him. I don't know

952
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:25,210
I can't tax it. You can't and I don't fair

953
01:09:25,210 --> 01:09:30,250
You did it not that long ago. They did an anti-address, but it's inside the city limits now

954
01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:34,950
Yeah, cuz I can't think of a reason why it would benefit the Merona city to bring them in. I don't know either

955
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:39,150
There's not enough houses out there. I don't know either

956
01:09:41,450 --> 01:09:48,070
I'm just saying other than to make the title of my own I middle school fit it so and they

957
01:09:48,070 --> 01:09:53,250
might just leave it alone where it is and Greg Mike continue what he's doing they're

958
01:09:53,250 --> 01:09:59,770
gonna re-evaluate if if what's coming down will re-evaluate in the year I think so too and if

959
01:09:59,770 --> 01:10:04,030
that happens I mean it's what he does suppose oh supposedly he's retiring that's what I mean

960
01:10:04,030 --> 01:10:07,470
No, I'm sure they'll re-evaluate him that kind of the sheriff says he's not hurt.

961
01:10:07,870 --> 01:10:12,390
And I haven't heard anything official, so I don't...

962
01:10:14,980 --> 01:10:19,750
I think he's looking for you.

963
01:10:20,150 --> 01:10:22,770
Yeah, he has a fixer ticket and he's sitting there and...

964
01:10:23,210 --> 01:10:24,430
Oh, does she really?

965
01:10:24,910 --> 01:10:25,330
Who's that?

966
01:10:25,570 --> 01:10:25,870
Is that Kim?

967
01:10:26,850 --> 01:10:27,250
No.

968
01:10:29,090 --> 01:10:30,110
Is she really?

969
01:10:30,510 --> 01:10:32,430
Oh, it's for my pleasure, you know who it is.

970
01:10:33,330 --> 01:10:35,250
No, I don't know her name, I know.

971
01:10:36,590 --> 01:10:42,310
I know. Well, I just I just and I've said it every time that you're just a lot of positive vibe

972
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:50,450
I think about it, and I'm I tell you what I'm I sure aware when I hear sirens think about you guys see a little prayers like

973
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:57,810
When I was when I serve in the church stuff whenever that siren go off like oh, no

974
01:10:59,450 --> 01:11:03,870
And so it is it is good about it again, and it'll be it'll be good and we'll see how

975
01:11:03,870 --> 01:11:09,990
We'll see how it turns out if this is I'm not going to lie if it's a mistake over a tire and leave it alone.

976
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:11,670
No, I just didn't.

977
01:11:11,690 --> 01:11:14,050
I'm just going to show his cards all of us.

978
01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:20,170
But if it is the good thing about it, and that's the way Brad pitched it, the bulls cities do.

979
01:11:20,670 --> 01:11:24,730
This is a one year kind of you have to give a six month notice on retiree.

980
01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:25,110
They do.

981
01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:27,230
Well they have to get used to it.

982
01:11:27,530 --> 01:11:31,730
And when you give that, me and Mike probably is on retirees on our own again.

983
01:11:31,730 --> 01:11:38,110
Yeah, but yeah, but no realistically like if it if it does not work for anybody involved

984
01:11:38,110 --> 01:11:43,110
We have a really good thing going. Yeah, it is awesome. And that's the thing. It's you're gonna know

985
01:11:43,110 --> 01:11:46,230
Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna learn some stuff and we're gonna tweak some stuff

986
01:11:46,230 --> 01:11:50,250
And then it will work and then it's and then it's me work. Yeah, we make it work

987
01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:53,230
Yeah, and we've had when we've done great so far. I mean

988
01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:58,090
There's been some tight things with the budget that we worried about and these have made it work and

989
01:11:59,370 --> 01:12:04,810
vehicles always seem to be like the there's always something. My question is, is have you guys

990
01:12:04,810 --> 01:12:09,170
figured out the extra wear and tear for the traveling back and forth of these cities?

991
01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:14,230
So I patrol them at your angle for almost 10 years. I know. You're not going to get 10 years at a

992
01:12:14,230 --> 01:12:20,950
vehicle. You're not. And we are we look at I've seen in that old ferry before because it ran like a

993
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:26,450
up until it is now. You also have that same. You are seeing that in direct three vehicles

994
01:12:26,450 --> 01:12:31,350
driving that. Yeah. It's hard and that is true. And it is hard to say. But we took a vehicle

995
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:37,030
that's been part time for probably five years. And now we made it full. And so the truck

996
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:42,510
is showing the wearer tear because it's not used to being used like that, right? And so

997
01:12:42,510 --> 01:12:48,410
although the mileage is low and it's an older truck, it's being used. So the plan, obviously,

998
01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:56,110
We have payment on vehicles, some of them we own, some of them we're paid for, we now own our own nice truck as of today.

999
01:12:57,570 --> 01:13:00,410
So like there's something that we own and some that we don't.

1000
01:13:00,490 --> 01:13:10,330
We get as much as we can out of them, but in all essence when those leases or I'd say own the leases and I mean the plan is to move right to anyone.

1001
01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:13,470
What's your goal? You're hoping for 150,000?

1002
01:13:15,090 --> 01:13:23,510
Yeah, I know that cars are meant to last one 50, but not patrol cars one 50's ugly. I'm not going to lie a hundred. I will have my get

1003
01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:26,910
take it off when you start getting high truck will be paid off in.

1004
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,200
I just barely got it in November. Yeah, and I'm already a 20,000 miles.

1005
01:13:33,660 --> 01:13:37,020
So if you take then it's a four year or not a five year. Yeah.

1006
01:13:37,020 --> 01:13:38,220
and it's under two or five.

1007
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,260
So if you look at our oldest trucks right now,

1008
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,320
Moroni would be top of the oldest,

1009
01:13:44,460 --> 01:13:45,440
but that's 12,000 miles.

1010
01:13:45,980 --> 01:13:46,780
If you're looking at the oldest

1011
01:13:46,780 --> 01:13:47,840
as the one that I'm in,

1012
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,940
the old Fairview truck right now,

1013
01:13:50,860 --> 01:13:54,820
it's a 2021, it has 59,000 on it.

1014
01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:01,040
The other one is the Dodge.

1015
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:02,340
Yeah, and it's got 60.

1016
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:03,480
It's right at 60.

1017
01:14:03,780 --> 01:14:04,880
So those are the two oldest,

1018
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:11,100
they're right about $59.60. We owned the Dodge. We owned this one both. Both are owned.

1019
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:16,600
I got $420 on my Sierra. I know. That's nice. And so they're like a cop.

1020
01:14:17,020 --> 01:14:22,140
Yeah. And they're right there and everything's going good with them. But the Dodge has just

1021
01:14:22,140 --> 01:14:27,060
the reason why the Dodge keeps going. Just replace the engine. But we didn't pay for it. It was

1022
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:32,580
under warranty. So they replaced the engine. So it is moving. But I think I used to roll

1023
01:14:32,580 --> 01:14:37,160
like 10 to 15,000 miles a year and I'm guessing you guys are going to be closer to 20.

1024
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:38,280
We are about 20.

1025
01:14:38,540 --> 01:14:39,780
We're about 20 years.

1026
01:14:40,060 --> 01:14:40,160
Yeah.

1027
01:14:40,620 --> 01:14:41,600
That's before found green.

1028
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,380
That is before found green.

1029
01:14:43,780 --> 01:14:43,860
Yeah.

1030
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:44,740
So we'll roll more.

1031
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:45,900
Like there's no doubt.

1032
01:14:46,220 --> 01:14:50,900
But to your vehicle turnover, I just trying to figure out how quick your vehicle turnover

1033
01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:51,340
is going to be.

1034
01:14:51,340 --> 01:14:57,780
Now, if we can kind of get it towards a little more like not necessarily a set schedule for

1035
01:14:57,780 --> 01:14:59,980
the city, so let's get over with the guys to

1036
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:28,780
Hey, if you're like the found green guy, you're not going to be the fairview guy, that shit as well. Now, like me and Steve or John and Tidwell have been that maybe do roam our vehicles will definitely go up. We might can get ahead of the curve a little bit. Like, hey, if you're found green that day, you're found green in my own eye. You'll come over here if we really need your help, but not to get lunch. You know what I'm saying? I was going to ask, where's the lunch fucking thing? I don't know. There's nothing over on that side. So we're over here.

1037
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,900
No, there's not because I've walked out of a couple places and we're all

1038
01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:36,320
now when I've seen he was cooking and I'm like, oh no, I've done some cases with you.

1039
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,120
We are not going to eat here today, thank you.

1040
01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:48,680
So overall, like I said, I'm not going to lie, congratulations, because we would have never

1041
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:48,960
thought.

1042
01:15:49,420 --> 01:15:58,020
I mean, it is awesome, but like if fountain green and I am almost 100% positive, they're there

1043
01:15:58,020 --> 01:16:02,020
Yeah, yeah, it's good. We've just we went from

1044
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,380
Merging two towns to take in the north

1045
01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:11,000
Really there's only one down sitting right now. So when you get the all everything logoed out how long's that?

1046
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,320
Yeah, so that'll make a difference. Yeah, we'll make a difference. So

1047
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:23,420
We have a little extra money, but I'm I'm holding on to that with my fine two nails

1048
01:16:24,380 --> 01:16:26,480
Like no, but we

1049
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:34,400
We have some plans, and there's some things like we know that Moronise can make a payment.

1050
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:40,720
We know what our service will be July 1st, but we have some time to get to that service

1051
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:41,840
and they'll have it happen.

1052
01:16:42,620 --> 01:16:43,380
That'll be cool.

1053
01:16:43,740 --> 01:16:47,920
So it'll be good, I'm not going to lie, I'm panning pigeon.

1054
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:53,520
I like to have a little reserve, Nathan likes it too, so it'll be good.

1055
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,120
Nathan's a good money watcher.

1056
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:07,960
he is cool all right okay do you need a motion then one motion I motion you

1057
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,600
I might have signed that in an hour and a half, so we gotta go get in this.