1 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,600 All right. Okay, it's 6:00. We'll begin meeting 2 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,560 tonight. If you please stand and join me for the pledge. 3 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:36,200 I pledge >> allegiance to the flag of the United 4 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:42,560 States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under 5 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:46,600 God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 6 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,600 » Thank you. 7 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,560 August 24th, 2026 City Council meeting will begin with roll call. Please, 8 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Shirley. >> Mayor Griffith. 9 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,040 » Present. >> Councilman Hale. 10 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,520 » Here. >> Councilman Wall. 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,080 » Present. >> Councilman Pledge. 12 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,440 » Here. >> Councilman Curtis. 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 » Here. >> Councilman Baker. 14 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,040 » Here. >> Councilman Rinaldi. 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,240 » Here. >> And myself. 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,560 » Thank you, Shirley. Has Council had a chance to review minutes from our August 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,400 10th meeting? If so, I'd entertain a motion to approve. 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,800 Jared makes a motion to approve. Any other seconds? 19 00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:20,920 » [cough] >> Comments? All in favor, show of hands. 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Motion carries 5-0. 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Other agenda items. First, we have the Historic Preservation Commission 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:31,040 ordinance. Uh any comments, Kayla, on uh revisions 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:35,040 from our last meeting? >> The only thing is that I made the 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:39,360 changes that we discussed uh as far as how many members would be 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,920 um on the board. So, there will be five voting members. That was changed in 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:48,560 section 3B. Um and then, as a result, I had to 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:53,040 change the term in 3C, where um the initial members the two members will 28 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:58,440 serve 1 year, two members will serve 2 years, and one member will serve 3 29 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:02,160 years. Just to get on rotating basis and then 30 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:07,000 um as we discussed as far as you would like the rules [snorts] to come back 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:11,800 through the city council and be approved by the city council 32 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:17,680 before they're actually enforceable and that's in 3F that those have to be 33 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,680 ratified before they um 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,200 So those are the only changes that were made to the work class. 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:26,640 » Uh the motion was made like in our minutes from last meeting it said three 36 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,120 appointees by the mayor and two by the council and I noticed that's changed. 37 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,160 I didn't know why. >> I meant to touch base on that. So state 38 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:37,200 statute requires all of the members to be appointed by the mayor and then 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,920 approved by the city council. So that's why that's in there like that. 40 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,920 » Okay. 41 00:02:41,131 --> 00:02:46,080 » [snorts] >> And we have three non-voting members. 42 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,160 » Correct. Three non-voting members which stayed the same as the last time. 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:53,040 » Yeah. >> Um those are at the discretion of 44 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:57,000 the council. Um so those do not have to be residents inside of the city limits. 45 00:02:55,959 --> 00:03:01,000 Um [clears throat] that was one other thing that we discussed about 46 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:05,080 um I had to leave it as residents. State statute requires they have to be 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:08,120 residents of the city of Mount Vernon um to be voting members but the non-voting 48 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,400 members do not have to be. >> Yeah. 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Yeah. Shane, three or four years, can this be 50 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,760 rescinded? >> Yes. 51 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,760 » Okay. 52 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:26,800 » Any questions? >> Would we have to Would we have to pay 53 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,800 back $2 million if we did? 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,800 » That I have not looked into yet. 55 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:37,400 » Um any other questions for Caleb? >> Yeah, can it be amended at any point 56 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,000 within the three years and if the council were to see fit, what's the 57 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,440 amendment process look like for this particular ordinance and statute? 58 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,760 » Um as far as the amendments, I think 59 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:51,400 there's your best bet is to amend the rules and 60 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:55,920 guidelines rather than necessarily how the commission itself is formed. 61 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Um I don't imagine you'd want to change members later on. 62 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,560 » No, no, no. The The rules. >> The rules is the 63 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:06,840 » Could be amended. [clears throat] Okay. And finally, it's my understanding that 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:10,480 we could pass this tonight. >> Okay. 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,400 » There's been some I I I think most of you know I've been having conversations 66 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,880 with many of the people here in this room trying to set uh aside some 67 00:04:15,452 --> 00:04:20,480 » [clears throat] >> fears and concerns about the ordinance 68 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:25,440 and how this works going forward. So, um obviously your your options are to 69 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:29,200 make a motion to approve the ordinance uh or to table it for another 2 weeks. 70 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,400 So, uh you can continue to have discussions. 71 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Um some of the changes that were talked about as suggestions within the 72 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,200 ordinance are just not legal They don't align with state statute and can't be 73 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:44,080 done. [clears throat] I mean, it is what it is. Uh so, that's up to you. I guess 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,960 I would open the floor for any business owners who want to comment uh and maybe 75 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:52,040 touch on something that wasn't touched in 2 weeks. You're welcome to come up 76 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,440 and and voice your concerns, opinions, etc. Or anyone else for that matter. 77 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,280 Anybody have a comment on this that they'd like to say? 78 00:04:56,280 --> 00:05:02,320 » I'd like to make a comment. We just got this and I think this is too important 79 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:07,080 to rush through and I would like to see us move it for 2 more 80 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:11,840 weeks and then can we have an executive meeting with Caleb to go through this 81 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:15,240 fine-tooth This This is a lot of pages and I just want to make sure we're doing 82 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,840 the right thing. I have a concern. 83 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,720 » I I don't know that we can have an executive session on this topic. I'll 84 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:25,400 defer to Larry, but if that's a motion to table it for 2 weeks. 85 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:30,240 » I'd like to make a motion to table it for 2 weeks and really look at it a lot 86 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:35,760 closer cuz it's I just basically got a chance to look at it 87 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:39,880 now. I mean, just walked in. It's It's too much information to me to to 88 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,240 rush through it. >> Well, the only thing that changed was 89 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,400 the the number of members. So, we've had it 90 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:50,200 for 2 weeks. And that's the only change that was made 91 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:55,840 from 2 weeks ago at our meeting. I thought Autumn did a wonderful job of 92 00:05:52,400 --> 00:06:02,840 explaining that this is simply creating the commission. This is not creating 93 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:07,000 any of the ordinance language for what would be monitored on our historic 94 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,680 preservation. >> I can comment more on what that process 95 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:14,640 looks like if you want. Just to reaffirm if you weren't here 96 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:19,120 last time. So, this ordinance is just to seat the commission. 97 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:23,520 And then from there, once the commission is seated, there will be focus groups 98 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:28,080 with the downtown business owners, downtown building owners, city council 99 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:32,280 to really set those guidelines. So, the guidelines are the rules, not this 100 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,240 ordinance. This ordinance is just how the commission acts, how it's seated. 101 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:41,720 So, like with Jared's question of if we can amend something. So, let's say today 102 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:45,080 the commission wanted to or if the commission wanted to do this, but then 103 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:49,760 in 3 years they don't want to do it. That comes in the guideline, right? 104 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:53,880 And then when those commission guidelines are amended, they'll come 105 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:58,240 back in front of city council again. So, yes, this is just to seat it. And 106 00:06:56,280 --> 00:07:02,200 then the guidelines are where it will come. So, a lot of suggestions that have 107 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:06,440 been given from business owners are when I showed them to Caleb, they come more 108 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,400 into play with the guidelines versus the actual ordinance because the guidelines 109 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:15,440 will be what the commission is following. And so, that's when community 110 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:19,480 members come in, they say, specifically downtown building owners, 111 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:23,000 what they would like to see if they want there to be rules around paint colors or 112 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,600 if they don't want rules around paint colors, stuff like that. 113 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,600 » Thank you. >> Yep. 114 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,840 » Thank you. >> Yes, ma'am. 115 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,200 You mind coming up and stating your name? 116 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Thank you. >> My name is Tammy Harper. I'm just 117 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:41,560 [clears throat] asking, can we just wait 2 weeks because it is a lot of 118 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:46,800 information. People um, as uh, us really just got the actual papers 119 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,840 tonight. Um, so we haven't had time to talk to people. A lot of people aren't 120 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,800 even aware of what's going on. And if it's not that big of a deal, um, as 121 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:58,800 people are saying, then why not wait? If we can't undo, why not wait? If it's 122 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,320 only 2 weeks, if it's not that big of a deal, I don't see the problem waiting. 123 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,400 And that's all I have to say. Like I said, 124 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,400 » Thank you. Excuse me, I didn't catch your name, 125 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:10,400 please. >> Tammy Harper. 126 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,400 » Okay, thank you. 127 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:19,080 Is this a a window or a timeline on this? 128 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,880 » Um, Teresa from Oprah's actually here. She 129 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,000 might be able to answer that question better. 130 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Um, she is who works for um, Oprah on State Level 131 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,200 I'm sorry, I didn't hear your question. Jack, can you re-ask your question? 132 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:38,640 » Is there a time >> a timeline on 133 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:42,760 on getting this and getting to start the grant started and 134 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:48,440 » The only issue would be we're running up against a timeline for the commission 135 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:52,600 members to go to what's called camp. And that is where they go into a workshop 136 00:08:50,839 --> 00:08:58,440 and basically learn everything that they can and can't do in the guidelines. That 137 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:05,040 is the end of September. That is the That is why we're trying to 138 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:10,960 get trustee members established so that we can get them sent there so 139 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:14,880 that then they can start knowing what the state and federal level regulate. 140 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:20,120 » Okay. >> in accordance to this grant. The only 141 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:24,920 other thing I've heard was if you want to disband this HPC 142 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,760 after, that's fine. But if you're going to keep the $2 143 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:34,000 million, it's got to go through the life cycle of the grant. So until we've 144 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:37,720 closed out the grant, the HPC has to stay. 145 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:41,000 » Thank you. >> And the camp training takes place 146 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,840 September 29th. >> 29th, so 147 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:48,480 » Is that every year in September? Um so, yeah. Yeah, cuz it 148 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,360 it generally takes place at the sport conservation conference, which is in 149 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Franklin this year. >> Yeah. 150 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:59,120 So, the timeline is important and I can't stress enough I I understand 151 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,600 um people wanting to wait 2 weeks, but I I 152 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:07,480 I I have to reiterate that all we're doing 153 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,520 tonight in passing this ordinance, if it passes, 154 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:14,320 is that we're we're saying that the city is going to establish a commission. 155 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:18,800 We're not establishing guidelines tonight. We are going to establish 156 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:22,960 the [clears throat] commission so we can move forward with 157 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:27,920 generating the map. We can move forward with the the grant that we have so 158 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:32,640 graciously received of $2 million to help said buildings, 159 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:37,680 said downtown [clears throat] area. So, tonight uh 160 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,840 I I would move to that we pass this ordinance. 161 00:10:38,632 --> 00:10:41,400 » [clears throat] >> There's already a motion on the table. 162 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,000 » Um >> Yeah, made a motion. So, we would need a 163 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,000 second 164 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,120 to consider that. 165 00:10:49,767 --> 00:10:56,280 » [snorts] [cough and clears throat] 166 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:56,280 » Motion dies for lack of a second. 167 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Do we have any additional motions? >> Does anyone else 168 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:05,720 » The The map's not available until the commission is established. 169 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,280 » And we would have adopted the map, correct? 170 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,720 » Just like we would have adopted everything. 171 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:15,800 » The city [clears throat] council sees everything that comes through this 172 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:21,080 newly positioned commission, so it will be coming back to us and there'll be 173 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:27,360 many opportunities for public input and discussion and whatnot. This is just an 174 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:31,720 effort to keep us on the correct path to be able to get the people that are 175 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:35,320 seated on this commission the training that they will require so they can 176 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:40,640 understand what they can and cannot do, much like she said. With that said, I 177 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:42,760 make a motion that we accept or pass this ordinance. Does it have a number, 178 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Charlie? >> 1032-2026 179 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,960 » 1032-2026 180 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:54,840 as written to establish the commission for the historic preservation 181 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,880 commission. >> I'll second that. 182 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:03,840 » Motion from Baron to adopt ordinance 1032-2026 183 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,640 and second by Jack. Any other questions, comments, concerns? 184 00:12:06,403 --> 00:12:11,920 » [snorts] >> All in favor, show of hands. 185 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:14,680 All opposed, show of hands. >> I want to wait. 186 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,400 » Motion fails two votes to three. 187 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,840 Did I Did I get that right? >> I'd like to wait two more weeks. 188 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,160 » You prefer to table it. >> I do. 189 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,520 » But it's a good time to do a second on that table motion. 190 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 » Yeah, I second 191 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,933 » I could have done it that way. I apologize. 192 00:12:33,913 --> 00:12:35,933 » [laughter] 193 00:12:36,533 --> 00:12:39,560 [clears throat] >> I talked to a lot of business owners and 194 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:43,839 had a lot of people 195 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,839 told me that 196 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:50,320 they are supportive of the ordinance itself, but they want two more weeks to 197 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,400 discuss it with everybody else in the room and everybody else at the table. 198 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:58,080 There seems to be less pushback on the ordinance itself 199 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,880 and more about the timeline and the details. While I understand we're on a 200 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:04,760 strict timeline, uh 201 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,120 we got to be sure that we get right and I 202 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:13,480 I told a lot of people in this room that I would not vote on it tonight, that I 203 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:13,480 intended to give it two more weeks. 204 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,720 So, that's how I made my decision. >> You got to understand 205 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,600 » You don't have to answer to me. I'm just saying. 206 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:25,800 » You got to understand there is a two more weeks and then you're getting 207 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:30,520 a month away from the deadline and then you have to find The mayor has to 208 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:33,400 appoint five people, get them together, and get this all organized. 209 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,120 » And they have to be approved by the city council. 210 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,680 » Approved by the city council. So, we are 211 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,400 We are under the gun. >> You're absolutely 212 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,880 » You want to order your next meeting is in 3 weeks. 213 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,920 » Yes. >> Thank you. 214 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,080 » Yeah. >> Terry made a point the next meeting's in 215 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,240 3 weeks. So, >> Yeah, we meet the 7th Well, when do we 216 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,680 meet the 7th? So, what are we What do we meet then? 217 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:02,880 The second Monday of the month. Oh, it'd be 14th. Yeah, 14th. We would meet the 218 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:06,760 14th and the 28th. So, the workshop's the 29th. 219 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:11,440 There's no reason he can't go ahead and figure out his five members in his next 220 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:15,960 2 weeks, Barry. I mean, he'll have an idea by then. He can have his that work 221 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,280 taken care of. He just has to be efficient. He can't do it. 222 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,760 » I think they have to be approved by this council at a public meeting. 223 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,200 » Yeah. >> But 224 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,160 why can't we bring those names right after we approve this ordinance, if we 225 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:31,600 approve it? Can we not submit another 226 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,320 to vote on the five members at point the first meeting that night? 227 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,240 » I mean, while I agree that makes sense, I'm not going to waste my time asking 228 00:14:36,839 --> 00:14:40,520 people to serve on a commission not knowing if you're going to pass this 229 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,640 ordinance by I don't want to waste their time or 230 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,720 mine. >> I agree with that. 231 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:51,839 » We're just under the gun, and we've had this this exact same ordinance for 2 232 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:56,240 weeks prior to tonight's meeting. So, it it's it's been out there. We've 233 00:14:54,040 --> 00:15:00,240 changed just a couple of things on it. And again, it is saying that we will 234 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,920 establish the commission. That is all. 235 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:07,360 » Moving on, the next item of the agenda is ordinance 1031 236 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:11,240 -2026, an ordinance governing and regulating paid leave policy for the 237 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:16,000 city of North Vernon employees as it pertains to 238 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Maternity or paternity >> Paternity. 239 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:21,000 » Paternity. >> Parental leave. 240 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,400 » Parental leave. you. >> Thank you. 241 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:27,120 » Parental leave. >> Uh before you consider this, this is the 242 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,520 first reading. Uh 243 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:34,560 there are a couple of uh errors on the second page at the top, 244 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:39,000 and it should read uh 245 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:44,280 numero uh number one, within 6 months prior to birth or placement for adoption 246 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:48,000 or before separation from employment, employees are responsible for notifying 247 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,880 their department head or elected official that a birth or placement for 248 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:56,320 adoption is anticipated. Yada yada yada, the whole rest of the 249 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,560 thing. Just changing that first sentence. 250 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,560 » Thank you. 251 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Okay, so this is the notice the first reading of ordinance 1031-2026. 252 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:15,000 It will be on the uh agenda for adoption at our next meeting unless council so 253 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:18,960 desires to waive the rules and move to the second reading by unanimous vote. 254 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,600 We'll put it on the agenda >> 2 weeks. 255 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:29,440 » All right, moving on. Department head updates, Eric. 256 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,480 Anything you'd like to talk about tonight? 257 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,600 » No. >> Council, anything for Eric? 258 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Golf course. >> I sure do. 259 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,240 Those of you in here don't know I'm Joe Kelly. 260 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:51,000 » I know who you are. >> I'm director of golf out at co-director 261 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,880 of golf out at St. Andrews Golf Course. Uh and I won't take up too much of your 262 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,720 time, but Sunday morning, yesterday morning, I made a mistake. 263 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:01,120 And that's solely my fault. Uh we had a schedule we had a scramble scheduled at 264 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:05,760 St. Andrews for an 8:00 a.m. shotgun start. Uh I failed to be there. 265 00:17:04,199 --> 00:17:08,480 Um Straight up, I overslept my alarm. I'm 266 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:12,480 not going to lie to you guys. I'm not going to try to beat around the bush. I 267 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:15,760 slept through my alarm and didn't wake up in time to uh to get there to hold 268 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,079 the scramble. Um 269 00:17:17,439 --> 00:17:22,520 It's no one else's fault but mine and I'm owning up to it and putting it on my 270 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,400 shoulders. I want to apologize first off to Clayton 271 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,920 Webster and his event. That's who was holding 272 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:33,360 the event. I want to apologize to him and everyone 273 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:37,200 that made the drive, sacrificed their Sunday morning to come out and spend it 274 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:40,280 on the golf course and I was not there to provide that for them. 275 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,680 I want to apologize to the mayor, the city council 276 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,680 and Bryce Raitzsch and 277 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:51,400 obviously my actions reflect upon you guys and upon the city and upon Bryce 278 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:55,600 and I've put and I duly apologize for uh 279 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,400 any kind of scrutiny I put you through or anything like that. Obviously it was 280 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,440 never my intention, but it happened. I made a mistake. 281 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:06,880 Um Now I take pride in my name. I take 282 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:11,840 pride in St. Andrews Golf Course. I take pride in this community and this and in 283 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,920 this city. I really truly do or else I don't know if I would have applied for 284 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:18,400 this job. Um, and I [snorts] I let you guys down. I 285 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:23,160 let everyone down. That does not reflect my standard. I hold myself to the 286 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,560 standard to a higher standard. Um 287 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:30,960 And our golfers and our city, everyone should expect that out of me and I felt 288 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,920 I was made a bad decision, bad choice not to 289 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,680 wake up. Um 290 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:40,040 and that's what happened. I just want to move forward, put it behind me, 291 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,520 apologize to everyone in here and everyone that was affected 292 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,400 Sunday morning. Um 293 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,960 I will work as hard as I can and do anything in my power 294 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,640 to earn back uh 295 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:58,640 the trust that I lost this past weekend. So, I'll leave it at that. 296 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:04,480 » Any questions for Joe? No. Thank you, Joe. Appreciate it. 297 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:07,280 Standing up, owning your mistake. It 298 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:12,120 Sometimes things are out of our control, but I appreciate what both you and Bryce 299 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:17,960 have done and what you have brought to the golf course this year. And although 300 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:22,840 yesterday was disappointing, it it doesn't diminish the good that you 301 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:26,560 have done in your position out there. So, I 302 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,920 appreciate it, and I know you'll learn from it. 303 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:33,880 » Chief [clears throat] Master? >> Uh some of you may or may not have 304 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,600 noticed we've been working a special campaign enforcement out in the school 305 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,360 zone. So, officers have been coming in early in the morning and 306 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,120 stopping for speeding 307 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,760 school bus stop arm violations in school zones. That's all being paid for by our 308 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,720 uh the grant which we received through 309 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Operation Pull Over. So, if you see some extra officers in the school zone, 310 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:59,120 that's what we're doing. >> Thank you. 311 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,800 » My mom enjoys everyone getting pulled over from her back porch in the morning. 312 00:20:03,248 --> 00:20:07,360 » [laughter] >> Thank you for that. Elise? 313 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,320 » Yeah. >> Bobby? 314 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:13,880 » Uh not a lot. Uh just the normal things 315 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:17,720 happening at the park right now. We will uh come this Sunday be hosting now that 316 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:21,840 we're kind of in the fall season for travel sports. Uh first tournament just 317 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:26,960 on Sunday. And the unique thing about this is uh it's the first one that will 318 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:30,400 be hosted by USA. They will have a sports, and it's going to be fast pitch 319 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:33,760 tournament on Sunday. So, we'll see how that goes, and we'll start 320 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,480 giving you guys updates on a little bit something different at the park. So, 321 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,000 yeah, it'll just be Sunday. >> Cool. 322 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,760 » Thank you. >> Uh I'd open it up for any additional 323 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:47,120 public comment. Yes, Jeff. >> I know I'm a public comment. 324 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:56,200 Took a long time to get some of these buildings out of the way. 325 00:20:54,240 --> 00:21:00,320 Yeah, you guys are doing a good job. Reason I don't show up in the three 326 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:03,080 months in the wintertime, you guys need a break. 327 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,920 Thank you. >> Thanks, Jeff. 328 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:11,369 » What do you like having to up with two of me in this town? 329 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:15,160 » When does the three months start? >> [laughter] 330 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:18,640 » When it comes. >> I think I 331 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:22,800 I just like to add I think I can speak for all the council back this 332 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,840 ordinance. Like I know most of you in the room and building owners and what 333 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,840 you've done in the investment you have made in our community and how vital and 334 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:35,040 important that's been and it just assure you that 335 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:40,320 I know this is coming from a politician but our intentions are true and you know 336 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,960 for those that who have invested in the community at the end of the day this 337 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:48,800 should be a good thing that protects your investment and there's certainly no 338 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:52,040 ill will here my office is open if any of you want to come and talk about it 339 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:56,600 I'd love to have a conversation with you. So you know don't feel like 340 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:00,280 anything's trying to happen behind your back you're always welcome to come see 341 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:05,520 me my door's open for all of you. So thank you for what you've done. 342 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,520 » I'll come knock to you and I mean 343 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,720 » What is it? It's just pure coincidence is Charles it 344 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:16,920 is. >> Okay we'll move on then down the agenda 345 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:20,320 we have approval of payroll claims for the August the 14th. Can I say 346 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,440 something first? Oh sorry Clay yes please let me see it. 347 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,440 » No. 348 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:31,000 So my name is Clayton Lesher. I was the one who was hosting the golf scramble 349 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:36,080 yesterday. I definitely didn't intend on getting this big obviously um 350 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,080 I just made the post cuz no one showed up and then it kind of just took off and 351 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:44,520 steamrolled from there. Um So sorry I really didn't mean for it to 352 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:48,600 happen like that. I just got wanted to say something obviously we had people 353 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,600 come down from Indian Louisville and this is the fourth time we've done it. 354 00:22:51,585 --> 00:22:54,640 » [snorts] >> I like to keep it here cuz I'm from here 355 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,880 so I like to keep the business here but this makes it a little bit harder 356 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:03,920 especially with people traveling and um the way the shape the course is and I 357 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:07,800 know that's not completely in control. But, um 358 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:12,240 the numbers just keep dwindling and other courses have reached out. 359 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,320 So, that's just where it where it went and why it went that fast, 360 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,400 unfortunately. >> So, we understand. 361 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:21,600 » Well, yeah, you had a right to put the post on. You know, we apologize as as 362 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,480 Joe does well, but we let you down and we look forward to hopefully earning 363 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,640 your trust back and >> Just trying to make it right. 364 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:32,040 There was more to it and unfortunately I didn't know everything and it just 365 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,880 people and you have you have a right. >> So, yeah. 366 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,560 » Yeah. >> Hopefully we can 367 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,600 come to some resolution and figure something out. 368 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,400 » Yep. Thank you for that. >> Thank you. 369 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,400 » Thank you. 370 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,520 » Uh payroll claim $219,382.95 371 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:53,160 for the August 14th payroll. I entertain a motion to approve that. Andrew makes 372 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,160 the motion. 373 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,400 » I'll second. >> All right. 374 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,706 » I'll second. >> Give it back. 375 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,520 » Barrett makes the motion. >> [clears throat] 376 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:04,840 » I heard the seconds the motion. All in favor? 377 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,160 Uh motion Motion carries five votes. Thank you, 378 00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:12,280 Jeff. I couldn't see. >> We have uh two claim dockets, one in the 379 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,280 amount of $145,038.29. 380 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,240 A second in the amount of $149,461.09. 381 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,920 You've had a chance to review these two dockets. I entertain a motion to 382 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,840 approve. >> I'd like to say something first. 383 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,880 » Before we pay for those? >> Yeah. 384 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,720 You can't. We'll go ahead. We'll vote on it. 385 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,320 » Yeah. >> I'll make the motion we pay for them. 386 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,480 » Jack makes the motion to approve the claims. 387 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:42,480 Pat seconds the motion. All in favor? Motion carries five votes. Jack, I'll 388 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,600 open the 48. >> We kept 389 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:51,320 some heat on these claims and we just gave a a uh 390 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:58,560 one big number. This is all the claims here, in here, 391 00:24:55,120 --> 00:25:03,640 and here. Now, if we sat down and went through each claim and each payment, 392 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,840 we'd be sitting here for a just good hour. 393 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:11,480 So, we do it down to one big claim. 394 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:16,480 This is all these claims are 395 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:21,640 are public knowledge. They You can go down to the clerk's office and pick them 396 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:26,160 up and look over them. If you have questions about them, either Charlie or 397 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:30,120 his staff can answer them for you. If not, you can come to a meeting and ask 398 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:35,360 about them. And we'd love to talk to you about it. 399 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:38,000 So, if you have any problems with them, please do that. 400 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,800 » I'm sorry. >> Anything of note in those that you'd 401 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:46,160 like to mention? >> $245,000 402 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:49,560 debt payment, $31,000 for a piece of 403 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:55,960 equipment for the street department, and $20,000 to the EDC. Normal business. 404 00:25:53,880 --> 00:26:01,000 » Tom, can I add what Just the process of paying a claim is 405 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:04,320 that we get submitted a claim by the department head. 406 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,840 It's up to each department head to approve the claim for their department. 407 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:13,880 It does not get posted until that claim is approved by the department head. And 408 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:18,360 then we review the appropriation that it goes against to make sure that they have 409 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:22,440 the budget to pay for that claim. And at that point, it goes on the docket 410 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,920 for the council's approval. We cannot write a check or 411 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:31,040 pay anything without council's approval of that specific. 412 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:36,640 But it's really the responsibility of knowing the deep detail of each claim 413 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:41,560 falls on the clerk-treasurer's office. So, it's public record and you're more 414 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:44,800 than welcome to come and review it, look at it with us, whatever you want, but 415 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,160 that's the process. >> Thank you. 416 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,640 » Yeah, thank you for that. Anything else? There's There's a lot of people here. 417 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:55,560 Does anybody Does anyone any other comment they want to talk about, on 418 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560 any category? 419 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,720 If not, I'd like to thank everybody for coming. I told somebody today that it 420 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,160 might be a full house, and I think it's important that people come, 421 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:10,400 because if people come, they still care. If you look at this, it's an empty room. 422 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,240 If somebody's mad, then they don't even care. So, but the fact you guys took 423 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,240 time to come tonight, everybody's busy, and I appreciate you 424 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,400 guys coming. And uh 425 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,080 we'll continue to work through all these things together. 426 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,280 » Well, yeah, don't discount the people that are online. They're 427 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600 they're actual people, at least most of them are. 428 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,800 » Um >> You're the only one 429 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,080 » So, they can make their posts and whatnot, and 430 00:27:31,929 --> 00:27:34,480 » [cough] >> however they want to say about tonight's 431 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:39,360 meeting, but everything here is transparent, contrary to what you read 432 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,360 online. 433 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:46,840 » I will make a quick comment. We we go through basically the same just 434 00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:50,400 [clears throat] to clear the air. We go through basically the same 435 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:55,000 procedure with utilities. We all look at the claim voucher prior 436 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,160 to the meeting. If there's any question about any claim, then we talk about it 437 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,360 before. And just like Jack said, if we sat there 438 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:06,160 and went through every claim individually, 439 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:11,000 we'd be there for 2 hours, 2 and 1/2 hours, 440 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:14,240 and not necessarily talking about things that 441 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,440 we were already discussing prior to the meeting. 442 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,080 We'd question it if there's a problem, we'd talk about it, we'd ask 443 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,320 the two superintendents or the office 444 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,040 manager. Everything's clarified before we vote on 445 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:33,160 it. And it's the same procedure. They can't 446 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,160 pay them until we sign off on them. >> Yep. 447 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,160 » Thank you, Jared. 448 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,080 » Okay, if there's nothing else, I would entertain a motion to adjourn. 449 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,120 » I have something. >> All right. 450 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:48,440 » Sally, Sally explained >> I'm sorry. First, let me press. 451 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,920 Clerk's >> We have a uh first public hearing for 452 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:57,400 this year's budget on September 14th. Unfortunately, I'll be in France on that 453 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,760 day. Um 454 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,840 so >> Can we have our meeting there? 455 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,200 » But I I'm I'm going to throw out the date of 456 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:11,280 September 28th for the public hearing. Check your 457 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:16,800 calendars, get back with me. Um some of you have asked for maybe a 458 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:22,600 separate meeting just to cover that. We had directly included it in with the 459 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:26,800 general meeting on September 14th. So, if you'd like a separate meeting, 460 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:31,760 consider September 28th, so I can get that published as a changed date on that 461 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,800 public hearing. >> Your intention would be the first 462 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,000 hearing in the public hearing on the 28th. 463 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:41,000 » First public hearing on the 28th. Adoption is still scheduled for the 464 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:44,400 14th, and that's completely doable. >> Okay. 465 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Legal team? >> Nothing today. 466 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,200 » Now, I would entertain that motion to adjourn. 467 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,200 » I'll make a motion to adjourn. >> Pat makes the motion to adjourn the 468 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,040 meeting. Hear a second? All in favor? Opposed? 469 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,520 Motion presented and opposed, or just a lady 470 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:04,800 » Late approval, yeah. >> Meeting adjourned 6:30 p.m. Thank you. 471 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920 » Mhm.