[0:24] All right.
Okay, it's 6:00. We'll begin meeting
[0:27] tonight. If you please stand and join me
for the pledge.
[0:30] I pledge
>> allegiance to the flag of the United
[0:33] States of America, and to the republic
for which it stands, one nation under
[0:39] God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
[0:44] » Thank you.
[0:49] August 24th, 2026 City Council meeting
will begin with roll call. Please,
[0:53] Shirley.
>> Mayor Griffith.
[0:55] » Present.
>> Councilman Hale.
[0:56] » Here.
>> Councilman Wall.
[0:57] » Present.
>> Councilman Pledge.
[0:59] » Here.
>> Councilman Curtis.
[1:00] » Here.
>> Councilman Baker.
[1:02] » Here.
>> Councilman Rinaldi.
[1:03] » Here.
>> And myself.
[1:04] » Thank you, Shirley. Has Council had a
chance to review minutes from our August
[1:08] 10th meeting? If so, I'd entertain a
motion to approve.
[1:11] Jared makes a motion to approve. Any
other seconds?
[1:14] » [cough]
>> Comments? All in favor, show of hands.
[1:17] Motion carries 5-0.
[1:21] Other agenda items. First, we have the
Historic Preservation Commission
[1:24] ordinance.
Uh any comments, Kayla, on uh revisions
[1:29] from our last meeting?
>> The only thing is that I made the
[1:32] changes that we discussed
uh as far as how many members would be
[1:37] um on the board. So, there will be five
voting members. That was changed in
[1:40] section 3B.
Um and then, as a result, I had to
[1:44] change the term in 3C, where um
the initial members the two members will
[1:50] serve 1 year, two members will serve 2
years, and one member will serve 3
[1:55] years. Just to get on rotating basis and
then
[1:59] um as we discussed as far as you would
like the rules [snorts] to come back
[2:04] through the city council
and be approved by the city council
[2:09] before they're actually enforceable and
that's in 3F that those have to be
[2:13] ratified before they um
[2:18] So those are the only changes that were
made to the work class.
[2:20] » Uh the motion was made like in our
minutes from last meeting it said three
[2:25] appointees by the mayor and two by the
council and I noticed that's changed.
[2:29] I didn't know why.
>> I meant to touch base on that. So state
[2:31] statute requires all of the members to
be appointed by the mayor and then
[2:35] approved by the city council. So that's
why that's in there like that.
[2:38] » Okay.
[2:41] » [snorts]
>> And we have three non-voting members.
[2:44] » Correct. Three non-voting members which
stayed the same as the last time.
[2:47] » Yeah.
>> Um those are at the discretion of
[2:50] the council. Um so those do not have to
be residents inside of the city limits.
[2:55] Um [clears throat] that was one other
thing that we discussed about
[2:59] um I had to leave it as residents. State
statute requires they have to be
[3:02] residents of the city of Mount Vernon um
to be voting members but the non-voting
[3:06] members do not have to be.
>> Yeah.
[3:09] Yeah.
Shane, three or four years, can this be
[3:13] rescinded?
>> Yes.
[3:15] » Okay.
[3:20] » Any questions?
>> Would we have to Would we have to pay
[3:23] back $2 million if we did?
[3:27] » That I have not looked into yet.
[3:31] » Um any other questions for Caleb?
>> Yeah, can it be amended at any point
[3:35] within the three years and if the
council were to see fit, what's the
[3:39] amendment process look like for this
particular ordinance and statute?
[3:43] » Um
as far as the amendments, I think
[3:45] there's
your best bet is to amend the rules and
[3:48] guidelines rather than necessarily how
the commission itself is formed.
[3:54] Um I don't imagine you'd want to change
members later on.
[3:57] » No, no, no. The The rules.
>> The rules is the
[3:59] » Could be amended. [clears throat] Okay.
And finally, it's my understanding that
[4:04] we could pass this tonight.
>> Okay.
[4:08] » There's been some I I I think most of
you know I've been having conversations
[4:12] with many of the people here in this
room trying to set uh aside some
[4:15] » [clears throat]
>> fears and concerns about the ordinance
[4:17] and how this works going forward. So,
um obviously your your options are to
[4:22] make a motion to approve the ordinance
uh or to table it for another 2 weeks.
[4:27] So, uh you can continue to have
discussions.
[4:30] Um some of the changes that were talked
about as suggestions within the
[4:34] ordinance are just not legal They don't
align with state statute and can't be
[4:38] done. [clears throat] I mean, it is what
it is. Uh so, that's up to you. I guess
[4:42] I would open the floor for any business
owners who want to comment uh and maybe
[4:46] touch on something that wasn't touched
in 2 weeks. You're welcome to come up
[4:49] and and voice your concerns, opinions,
etc. Or anyone else for that matter.
[4:54] Anybody have a comment on this that
they'd like to say?
[4:56] » I'd like to make a comment. We just got
this and I think this is too important
[5:00] to rush through and I
would like to see us move it for 2 more
[5:04] weeks and then can we have an executive
meeting with Caleb to go through this
[5:09] fine-tooth This This is a lot of pages
and I just want to make sure we're doing
[5:13] the right thing.
I have a concern.
[5:15] » I I don't know that we can have an
executive session on this topic. I'll
[5:18] defer to Larry, but if that's a motion
to table it for 2 weeks.
[5:23] » I'd like to make a motion to table it
for 2 weeks and really look at it a lot
[5:27] closer cuz it's I just basically got a
chance to look at it
[5:32] now. I mean, just walked in. It's
It's too much information to me to to
[5:38] rush through it.
>> Well, the only thing that changed was
[5:41] the
the number of members. So, we've had it
[5:43] for 2 weeks.
And that's the only change that was made
[5:48] from 2 weeks ago at our meeting.
I thought Autumn did a wonderful job of
[5:52] explaining that this is simply creating
the commission. This is not creating
[5:58] any of the ordinance language for what
would be monitored on our historic
[6:06] preservation.
>> I can comment more on what that process
[6:08] looks like if you want.
Just to reaffirm if you weren't here
[6:12] last time. So, this ordinance is just to
seat the commission.
[6:16] And then from there, once the commission
is seated, there will be focus groups
[6:21] with the downtown business owners,
downtown building owners, city council
[6:26] to really set those guidelines. So, the
guidelines are the rules, not this
[6:30] ordinance. This ordinance is just how
the commission acts, how it's seated.
[6:34] So, like with Jared's question of if we
can amend something. So, let's say today
[6:39] the commission wanted to or if the
commission wanted to do this, but then
[6:43] in 3 years they don't want to do it.
That comes in the guideline, right?
[6:47] And then when those commission
guidelines are amended, they'll come
[6:51] back in front of city council again.
So, yes, this is just to seat it. And
[6:56] then the guidelines are where it will
come. So, a lot of suggestions that have
[6:59] been given from business owners are when
I showed them to Caleb, they come more
[7:04] into play with the guidelines versus the
actual ordinance because the guidelines
[7:08] will be what the commission is
following. And so, that's when community
[7:12] members come in, they say, specifically
downtown building owners,
[7:17] what they would like to see if they want
there to be rules around paint colors or
[7:21] if they don't want rules around paint
colors, stuff like that.
[7:24] » Thank you.
>> Yep.
[7:25] » Thank you.
>> Yes, ma'am.
[7:27] You mind coming up and stating your
name?
[7:31] Thank you.
>> My name is Tammy Harper. I'm just
[7:35] [clears throat] asking, can we just wait
2 weeks because it is a lot of
[7:38] information. People um, as
uh, us really just got the actual papers
[7:44] tonight. Um, so we haven't had time to
talk to people. A lot of people aren't
[7:48] even aware of what's going on. And if
it's not that big of a deal, um, as
[7:51] people are saying, then why not wait? If
we can't undo, why not wait? If it's
[7:56] only 2 weeks, if it's not that big of a
deal, I don't see the problem waiting.
[8:01] And that's all I have to say. Like I
said,
[8:02] » Thank you.
Excuse me, I didn't catch your name,
[8:05] please.
>> Tammy Harper.
[8:07] » Okay, thank you.
[8:13] Is this a
a window or a timeline on this?
[8:17] » Um,
Teresa from Oprah's actually here. She
[8:21] might be able to answer that question
better.
[8:24] Um, she is who
works for um, Oprah on State Level
[8:29] I'm sorry, I didn't hear your question.
Jack, can you re-ask your question?
[8:33] » Is there a time
>> a timeline on
[8:36] on getting this and getting to start the
grant started and
[8:40] » The only issue would be we're running up
against a timeline for the commission
[8:45] members to go to what's called camp. And
that is where they go into a workshop
[8:50] and basically learn everything that they
can and can't do in the guidelines. That
[8:55] is the end of September. That is the
That is why we're trying to
[9:01] get trustee members established
so that we can get them sent there so
[9:07] that then they can start knowing what
the state and federal level regulate.
[9:14] » Okay.
>> in accordance to this grant. The only
[9:17] other thing I've heard was if you want
to disband this HPC
[9:22] after, that's fine.
But if you're going to keep the $2
[9:26] million, it's got to go through the life
cycle of the grant. So until we've
[9:31] closed out the grant,
the HPC has to stay.
[9:36] » Thank you.
>> And the camp training takes place
[9:39] September 29th.
>> 29th, so
[9:42] » Is that every year in September? Um so,
yeah. Yeah, cuz it
[9:46] it generally takes place at the sport
conservation conference, which is in
[9:50] Franklin this year.
>> Yeah.
[9:52] So, the timeline is important and I
can't stress enough I I understand
[9:58] um
people wanting to wait 2 weeks, but I I
[10:01] I
I have to reiterate that all we're doing
[10:05] tonight in passing this ordinance, if it
passes,
[10:08] is that we're we're saying that the city
is going to establish a commission.
[10:12] We're not establishing guidelines
tonight. We are going to establish
[10:17] the [clears throat] commission so we can
move forward with
[10:20] generating the map. We can move forward
with the the grant that we have so
[10:25] graciously received of $2 million to
help said buildings,
[10:30] said downtown [clears throat] area. So,
tonight uh
[10:34] I I would move to that we pass this
ordinance.
[10:38] » [clears throat]
>> There's already a motion on the table.
[10:40] » Um
>> Yeah, made a motion. So, we would need a
[10:42] second
[10:45] to consider that.
[10:49] » [snorts]
[cough and clears throat]
[10:52] » Motion dies for lack of a second.
[10:56] Do we have any additional motions?
>> Does anyone else
[10:59] » The The map's not available until the
commission is established.
[11:04] » And we would have adopted the map,
correct?
[11:06] » Just like we would have adopted
everything.
[11:09] » The city [clears throat] council sees
everything that comes through this
[11:13] newly positioned commission, so it will
be coming back to us and there'll be
[11:18] many opportunities for public input and
discussion and whatnot. This is just an
[11:24] effort to keep us on the correct path to
be able to get the people that are
[11:28] seated on this commission the training
that they will require so they can
[11:33] understand what they can and cannot do,
much like she said. With that said, I
[11:37] make a motion that we accept or pass
this ordinance. Does it have a number,
[11:41] Charlie?
>> 1032-2026
[11:45] » 1032-2026
[11:49] as written to establish the commission
for the historic preservation
[11:53] commission.
>> I'll second that.
[11:56] » Motion
from Baron to adopt ordinance 1032-2026
[12:01] and second by Jack. Any other questions,
comments, concerns?
[12:06] » [snorts]
>> All in favor, show of hands.
[12:08] All opposed, show of hands.
>> I want to wait.
[12:15] » Motion fails two votes to three.
[12:21] Did I Did I get that right?
>> I'd like to wait two more weeks.
[12:25] » You prefer to table it.
>> I do.
[12:27] » But it's a good time to do a second on
that table motion.
[12:30] » Yeah, I second
[12:32] » I could have done it that way. I
apologize.
[12:33] » [laughter]
[12:36] [clears throat]
>> I talked to a lot of business owners and
[12:38] had
a lot of people
[12:41] told me that
[12:44] they are supportive of the ordinance
itself, but they want two more weeks to
[12:49] discuss it with everybody else in the
room and everybody else at the table.
[12:52] There seems to be less pushback on the
ordinance itself
[12:56] and more about the timeline and the
details. While I understand we're on a
[12:59] strict timeline,
uh
[13:03] we got to be sure that we get right and
I
[13:05] I told a lot of people in this room that
I would not vote on it tonight, that I
[13:09] intended to give it two more weeks.
[13:13] So, that's how I made my decision.
>> You got to understand
[13:17] » You don't have to answer to me. I'm just
saying.
[13:19] » You got to understand there is
a two more weeks and then you're getting
[13:24] a month away from the deadline and then
you have to find The mayor has to
[13:28] appoint five people, get them together,
and get this all organized.
[13:32] » And they have to be approved by the city
council.
[13:33] » Approved by the city council. So,
we are
[13:37] We are under the gun.
>> You're absolutely
[13:40] » You want to order your next meeting is
in 3 weeks.
[13:43] » Yes.
>> Thank you.
[13:45] » Yeah.
>> Terry made a point the next meeting's in
[13:48] 3 weeks. So,
>> Yeah, we meet the 7th Well, when do we
[13:52] meet the 7th? So, what are we What do we
meet then?
[13:55] The second Monday of the month. Oh, it'd
be 14th. Yeah, 14th. We would meet the
[14:00] 14th and the 28th.
So, the workshop's the 29th.
[14:05] There's no reason he can't go ahead and
figure out his five members in his next
[14:09] 2 weeks, Barry. I mean, he'll have an
idea by then. He can have his that work
[14:14] taken care of. He just has to be
efficient. He can't do it.
[14:17] » I think they have to be approved by this
council at a public meeting.
[14:20] » Yeah.
>> But
[14:22] why can't we bring those names right
after we approve this ordinance, if we
[14:26] approve it?
Can we not submit another
[14:29] to vote on the five members at point the
first meeting that night?
[14:33] » I mean, while I agree that makes sense,
I'm not going to waste my time asking
[14:36] people to serve on a commission not
knowing if you're going to pass this
[14:39] ordinance by
I don't want to waste their time or
[14:41] mine.
>> I agree with that.
[14:44] » We're just under the gun, and we've had
this this exact same ordinance for 2
[14:48] weeks prior to tonight's meeting.
So, it it's it's been out there. We've
[14:54] changed just a couple of things on it.
And again, it is saying that we will
[14:57] establish the commission.
That is all.
[15:01] » Moving on, the next item of the agenda
is ordinance 1031
[15:05] -2026, an ordinance governing and
regulating paid leave policy for the
[15:09] city of North Vernon employees as it
pertains to
[15:14] Maternity or paternity
>> Paternity.
[15:16] » Paternity.
>> Parental leave.
[15:19] » Parental leave. you.
>> Thank you.
[15:21] » Parental leave.
>> Uh before you consider this, this is the
[15:25] first reading.
Uh
[15:28] there are a couple of uh
errors on the second page at the top,
[15:32] and it should read
uh
[15:36] numero uh number one, within 6 months
prior to birth or placement for adoption
[15:42] or before separation from employment,
employees are responsible for notifying
[15:46] their department head or elected
official that a birth or placement for
[15:50] adoption is anticipated.
Yada yada yada, the whole rest of the
[15:54] thing. Just changing that first
sentence.
[15:57] » Thank you.
[16:01] Okay, so this is the notice the first
reading of ordinance 1031-2026.
[16:06] It will be on the uh agenda for adoption
at our next meeting unless council so
[16:12] desires to waive the rules and move to
the second reading by unanimous vote.
[16:19] We'll put it on the agenda
>> 2 weeks.
[16:23] » All right, moving on. Department head
updates, Eric.
[16:28] Anything you'd like to talk about
tonight?
[16:30] » No.
>> Council, anything for Eric?
[16:34] Golf course.
>> I sure do.
[16:43] Those of you in here don't know I'm Joe
Kelly.
[16:45] » I know who you are.
>> I'm director of golf out at co-director
[16:48] of golf out at St. Andrews Golf Course.
Uh and I won't take up too much of your
[16:52] time, but Sunday morning, yesterday
morning, I made a mistake.
[16:55] And that's solely my fault. Uh we had a
schedule we had a scramble scheduled at
[16:59] St. Andrews for an 8:00 a.m. shotgun
start. Uh I failed to be there.
[17:04] Um
Straight up, I overslept my alarm. I'm
[17:07] not going to lie to you guys. I'm not
going to try to beat around the bush. I
[17:11] slept through my alarm and didn't wake
up in time to uh to get there to hold
[17:14] the scramble.
Um
[17:17] It's no one else's fault but mine and
I'm owning up to it and putting it on my
[17:20] shoulders.
I want to apologize first off to Clayton
[17:24] Webster
and his event. That's who was holding
[17:27] the event.
I want to apologize to him and everyone
[17:31] that made the drive, sacrificed their
Sunday morning to come out and spend it
[17:35] on the golf course and I was not there
to provide that for them.
[17:38] I want to apologize to the mayor, the
city council
[17:42] and Bryce Raitzsch
and
[17:45] obviously my actions reflect upon you
guys and upon the city and upon Bryce
[17:49] and I've put and I
duly apologize for uh
[17:54] any kind of scrutiny I put you through
or anything like that. Obviously it was
[17:57] never my intention, but it happened. I
made a mistake.
[18:00] Um
Now I take pride in my name. I take
[18:04] pride in St. Andrews Golf Course. I take
pride in this community and this and in
[18:09] this city. I really truly do or else I
don't know if I would have applied for
[18:12] this job. Um,
and I [snorts] I let you guys down. I
[18:16] let everyone down. That does not reflect
my standard. I hold myself to the
[18:20] standard to a higher standard.
Um
[18:24] And our golfers and our city, everyone
should expect that out of me and I felt
[18:29] I was
made a bad decision, bad choice not to
[18:32] wake up.
Um
[18:34] and that's what happened. I just want to
move forward, put it behind me,
[18:38] apologize to everyone in here and
everyone that was affected
[18:42] Sunday morning.
Um
[18:44] I will work as hard as I can and do
anything in my power
[18:48] to earn back
uh
[18:50] the trust that I lost this past weekend.
So, I'll leave it at that.
[18:55] » Any questions for Joe?
No. Thank you, Joe. Appreciate it.
[19:01] Standing up, owning your mistake.
It
[19:05] Sometimes things are out of our control,
but I appreciate what both you and Bryce
[19:09] have done and what you have brought to
the golf course this year. And although
[19:16] yesterday was disappointing,
it it doesn't diminish the good that you
[19:21] have done
in your position out there. So, I
[19:24] appreciate it, and I know you'll learn
from it.
[19:29] » Chief [clears throat] Master?
>> Uh some of you may or may not have
[19:32] noticed we've been working a special
campaign enforcement out in the school
[19:36] zone. So, officers have been coming in
early in the morning and
[19:41] stopping for
speeding
[19:43] school bus stop arm violations in school
zones. That's all being paid for by our
[19:48] uh
the grant which we received through
[19:50] Operation Pull Over. So, if you see some
extra officers in the school zone,
[19:54] that's what we're doing.
>> Thank you.
[19:59] » My mom enjoys everyone getting pulled
over from her back porch in the morning.
[20:03] » [laughter]
>> Thank you for that. Elise?
[20:06] » Yeah.
>> Bobby?
[20:08] » Uh
not a lot. Uh just the normal things
[20:11] happening at the park right now. We will
uh come this Sunday be hosting now that
[20:16] we're kind of in the fall season for
travel sports. Uh first tournament just
[20:19] on Sunday. And the unique thing about
this is uh it's the first one that will
[20:24] be hosted by USA. They will have a
sports, and it's going to be fast pitch
[20:28] tournament on Sunday. So,
we'll see how that goes, and we'll start
[20:32] giving you guys updates on a little bit
something different at the park. So,
[20:35] yeah, it'll just be Sunday.
>> Cool.
[20:38] » Thank you.
>> Uh I'd open it up for any additional
[20:41] public comment. Yes, Jeff.
>> I know I'm a public comment.
[20:49] Took a long time to get some of these
buildings out of the way.
[20:54] Yeah, you guys are doing a good job.
Reason I don't show up in the three
[20:57] months in the wintertime, you guys need
a break.
[21:02] Thank you.
>> Thanks, Jeff.
[21:05] » What do you like having to up with two
of me in this town?
[21:09] » When does the three months start?
>> [laughter]
[21:12] » When it comes.
>> I think I
[21:16] I just like to add I think I
can speak for all the council back this
[21:21] ordinance. Like I know most of you in
the room and building owners and what
[21:24] you've done in the investment you have
made in our community and how vital and
[21:28] important that's been and
it just assure you that
[21:33] I know this is coming from a politician
but our intentions are true and you know
[21:38] for those that who have invested in the
community at the end of the day this
[21:42] should be a good thing that protects
your investment and there's certainly no
[21:46] ill will here my office is open if any
of you want to come and talk about it
[21:50] I'd love to have a conversation with
you. So you know don't feel like
[21:55] anything's trying to happen behind your
back you're always welcome to come see
[21:58] me my door's open for all of you. So
thank you for what you've done.
[22:01] » I'll come knock to you and I mean
[22:06] » What is it?
It's just pure coincidence is Charles it
[22:10] is.
>> Okay we'll move on then down the agenda
[22:14] we have approval of payroll claims
for the August the 14th. Can I say
[22:19] something first? Oh sorry Clay yes
please let me see it.
[22:22] » No.
[22:25] So my name is Clayton Lesher. I was the
one who was hosting the golf scramble
[22:29] yesterday. I definitely didn't intend on
getting this big obviously um
[22:34] I just made the post cuz no one showed
up and then it kind of just took off and
[22:37] steamrolled from there. Um
So sorry I really didn't mean for it to
[22:42] happen like that. I just got wanted to
say something obviously we had people
[22:46] come down from Indian Louisville and
this is the fourth time we've done it.
[22:51] » [snorts]
>> I like to keep it here cuz I'm from here
[22:53] so I like to keep the business here but
this makes it a little bit harder
[22:55] especially with people traveling and um
the way the shape the course is and I
[23:00] know that's not completely in control.
But, um
[23:05] the numbers just keep dwindling and
other courses have reached out.
[23:10] So, that's just where it where it went
and why it went that fast,
[23:13] unfortunately.
>> So, we understand.
[23:15] » Well, yeah, you had a right to put the
post on. You know, we apologize as as
[23:19] Joe does well, but we let you down and
we look forward to hopefully earning
[23:23] your trust back and
>> Just trying to make it right.
[23:26] There was more to it and unfortunately I
didn't know everything and it just
[23:29] people and you have you have a right.
>> So, yeah.
[23:33] » Yeah.
>> Hopefully we can
[23:34] come to some resolution and figure
something out.
[23:37] » Yep. Thank you for that.
>> Thank you.
[23:38] » Thank you.
[23:41] » Uh payroll claim $219,382.95
[23:45] for the August 14th payroll. I entertain
a motion to approve that. Andrew makes
[23:50] the motion.
[23:54] » I'll second.
>> All right.
[23:56] » I'll second.
>> Give it back.
[23:58] » Barrett makes the motion.
>> [clears throat]
[23:59] » I heard the seconds the motion. All in
favor?
[24:03] Uh motion
Motion carries five votes. Thank you,
[24:06] Jeff. I couldn't see.
>> We have uh two claim dockets, one in the
[24:08] amount of $145,038.29.
[24:13] A second in the amount of $149,461.09.
[24:18] You've had a chance to review these two
dockets. I entertain a motion to
[24:21] approve.
>> I'd like to say something first.
[24:25] » Before we pay for those?
>> Yeah.
[24:27] You can't. We'll go ahead. We'll vote on
it.
[24:30] » Yeah.
>> I'll make the motion we pay for them.
[24:33] » Jack makes the motion to approve the
claims.
[24:35] Pat seconds the motion. All in favor?
Motion carries five votes. Jack, I'll
[24:39] open the 48.
>> We kept
[24:43] some heat
on these claims and we just gave a a uh
[24:49] one big number.
This is all the claims here, in here,
[24:55] and here. Now, if we sat down and went
through each claim and each payment,
[25:01] we'd be sitting here for a just good
hour.
[25:05] So, we
do it down to one big claim.
[25:10] This is
all these claims are
[25:13] are public knowledge. They You can go
down to the clerk's office and pick them
[25:19] up and look over them. If you have
questions about them, either Charlie or
[25:23] his staff can answer them for you. If
not, you can come to a meeting and ask
[25:28] about them.
And we'd love to talk to you about it.
[25:31] So, if you have any problems with them,
please do that.
[25:37] » I'm sorry.
>> Anything of note in those that you'd
[25:39] like to mention?
>> $245,000
[25:42] debt payment, $31,000 for a
piece of
[25:47] equipment for the street department,
and $20,000 to the EDC. Normal business.
[25:53] » Tom, can I add what
Just the process of paying a claim is
[25:58] that we get submitted a claim by the
department head.
[26:02] It's up to each department head to
approve the claim for their department.
[26:06] It does not get posted until that claim
is approved by the department head. And
[26:11] then we review the appropriation that it
goes against to make sure that they have
[26:15] the budget to pay for that claim.
And at that point, it goes on the docket
[26:20] for the council's approval.
We cannot write a check or
[26:24] pay anything without council's approval
of that specific.
[26:28] But it's really the responsibility of
knowing the deep detail of each claim
[26:34] falls on the clerk-treasurer's office.
So, it's public record and you're more
[26:38] than welcome to come and review it, look
at it with us, whatever you want, but
[26:43] that's the process.
>> Thank you.
[26:45] » Yeah, thank you for that. Anything else?
There's There's a lot of people here.
[26:49] Does anybody Does anyone any other
comment they want to talk about, on
[26:52] any category?
[26:57] If not, I'd like to thank everybody for
coming. I told somebody today that it
[27:00] might be a full house, and
I think it's important that people come,
[27:03] because if people come, they still care.
If you look at this, it's an empty room.
[27:08] If somebody's mad, then they don't even
care. So, but the fact you guys took
[27:11] time to come tonight,
everybody's busy, and I appreciate you
[27:14] guys coming.
And uh
[27:17] we'll continue to work through all these
things together.
[27:21] » Well, yeah, don't discount the people
that are online. They're
[27:24] they're actual people, at least most of
them are.
[27:27] » Um
>> You're the only one
[27:28] » So, they can make their posts and
whatnot, and
[27:31] » [cough]
>> however they want to say about tonight's
[27:33] meeting, but everything here is
transparent, contrary to what you read
[27:36] online.
[27:39] » I will make a quick comment. We
we go through basically the same just
[27:45] [clears throat] to clear the air.
We go through basically the same
[27:48] procedure with utilities.
We all look at the claim voucher prior
[27:52] to the meeting. If there's any question
about any claim, then we talk about it
[27:56] before.
And just like Jack said, if we sat there
[28:00] and went through every claim
individually,
[28:03] we'd be there for 2 hours,
2 and 1/2 hours,
[28:08] and not necessarily talking about things
that
[28:11] we were already discussing prior to the
meeting.
[28:15] We'd question it if there's a problem,
we'd talk about it, we'd ask
[28:20] the
two superintendents or the office
[28:23] manager.
Everything's clarified before we vote on
[28:26] it.
And it's the same procedure. They can't
[28:30] pay them until we sign off on them.
>> Yep.
[28:33] » Thank you, Jared.
[28:36] » Okay, if there's nothing else, I would
entertain a motion to adjourn.
[28:39] » I have something.
>> All right.
[28:41] » Sally, Sally explained
>> I'm sorry. First, let me press.
[28:47] Clerk's
>> We have a uh first public hearing for
[28:50] this year's budget on September 14th.
Unfortunately, I'll be in France on that
[28:56] day.
Um
[28:58] so
>> Can we have our meeting there?
[29:02] » But
I I'm I'm going to throw out the date of
[29:05] September 28th
for the public hearing. Check your
[29:08] calendars, get back with me.
Um some of you have asked for maybe a
[29:13] separate meeting just to cover that. We
had directly included it in with the
[29:19] general meeting on September 14th. So,
if you'd like a separate meeting,
[29:24] consider September 28th, so I can get
that published as a changed date on that
[29:29] public hearing.
>> Your intention would be the first
[29:32] hearing in the public hearing on the
28th.
[29:34] » First public hearing on the 28th.
Adoption is still scheduled for the
[29:38] 14th, and that's completely doable.
>> Okay.
[29:43] Legal team?
>> Nothing today.
[29:46] » Now, I would entertain that motion to
adjourn.
[29:49] » I'll make a motion to adjourn.
>> Pat makes the motion to adjourn the
[29:51] meeting. Hear a second? All in favor?
Opposed?
[29:55] Motion presented and opposed, or just a
lady
[29:58] » Late approval, yeah.
>> Meeting adjourned 6:30 p.m. Thank you.
[31:04] » Mhm.