1 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Britney. 2 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:38,960 I come calling Britney from Representative Troop 336 for the 3 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,399 invocation, please. >> Dear heavenly father, we pray that 4 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:47,280 you'll be with all these folks from the town of Wilsburg. Give them guidance to 5 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:51,360 make the right decisions for our community. And we pray that you'll bless 6 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:56,480 everyone who's here. We ask all these things in Jesus name. Never miss it. 7 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Amen. 8 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,960 There you go. 9 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:38,720 I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic 10 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:45,320 for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and 11 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,320 justice for all. 12 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,960 Britney 13 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:12,319 like to recognize these scouts. One thing is they're resilient. This is 14 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:16,879 another team and we were supposed to have two other people and so they 15 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:22,400 managed to do this all themselves. In recognition, we want to present both of 16 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:26,840 you with the full books for honor guard patch. Thank you so much. 17 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,680 » Take care. 18 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:54,000 So are there any additions or deletions to the agenda? 19 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:59,519 There are just a few. Yes, sir. >> So there is 20 00:02:56,640 --> 00:03:03,519 the item eight. budget amendment number seven, general fund budget amendment 21 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:08,159 number eight, water fund budget amendment number three, general fund 22 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:12,879 budget amendment number nine, and water fund budget amendment number seven. 23 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:19,599 There is also item L for the discussion of installation of stop signs near 24 00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:24,319 Chestnut and B Street. >> Do we have a motion to adopt the agenda? 25 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:29,120 the agenda. >> Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to accept the 26 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:31,280 agenda as noted. Commissioner Parson, do I have a second? 27 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:34,680 » Second. >> Thank you, Commissioner. 28 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:43,120 Do we have any discussion? If not, all in favor say I. 29 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:48,360 » I. Thank you. Any awards recognition? Chief, 30 00:03:49,599 --> 00:04:00,280 no other comment, Mr. Sir, thank you. 31 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,280 So, routine business. 32 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:08,080 We have our consent agenda. Do I have a motion to accept our consent agenda or 33 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:11,080 is there anything that needs to be taken? 34 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,959 If not, do I have a motion to accept? 35 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:26,320 » Thank you, Commissioner Bmer. A second. >> I'll second. 36 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:30,000 » All in favor say >> I. 37 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:38,479 » Thank you. Managers report. Yes sir. Thank you. Um 38 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:45,280 Black Station which was identified as surplus property. We did obtain an 39 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:51,840 appraisal on the property and it's in the hands currently of development 40 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:58,639 corporation to define interest in the properties and so there has been some 41 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:04,800 contacts made with some of the interested prospects. 42 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:11,759 They created a spec sheet all in the package and this includes 43 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:16,840 four parcels and they have identified a price of 44 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,840 $290,000 45 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:26,240 as an asking price for again this will be marketed as 46 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:30,360 related. Hopefully we'll have some 47 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,600 information to you. 48 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:49,919 » Just a curiosity question. I know I've been in there and it's been 49 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:54,840 around, but in the future there's some still some train things that were left 50 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,840 there. 51 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:02,039 probably not worth anything just question. 52 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:12,080 » M Brooks, we have a report. >> Good evening. 53 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:18,479 I wanted to give you all an update on the UDO. Um, as you know, we have been 54 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:22,240 well, Robin Tatum, our land use attorney, she has been reviewing the 55 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:28,160 document and the goal is to be able to get a draft by the end of May. Um, we 56 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:32,560 have been in contact with her, Director Campberman and I, and we're working 57 00:06:30,479 --> 00:06:36,880 towards getting that draft back from her. U, but currently, Director 58 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Campberman and I are reviewing some questions she had. She has some 59 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:46,160 preliminary questions that we needed to go through u mostly in the definition 60 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:50,240 section, just trying to do some cleanup before she's able to submit us that 61 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:54,720 whole draft. So, I just want to let you all know that it's in the works and 62 00:06:52,479 --> 00:06:59,759 still the deadline by the end of this calendar year. Um, so hopefully by 63 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,919 January 1st, 2027, it should be completed. I think we're still on 64 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:08,240 schedule to hit that deadline. So, and by that we mean like adopted and already 65 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:14,960 brought to you. So, you should be seeing the full draft in the next few months. 66 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:22,639 » I would like to point out, Mr. Camp, I have had discussions about 67 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:25,919 this fairly even workforce housing effort. 68 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:31,840 government and we've also had some interest from 69 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:37,039 developers working 189 to 230. 70 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:43,039 So this is this is a thing that would benefit our community. And so as part of 71 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:50,000 the UDO, I know Joseph and I want to discuss this together. I have notes from 72 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:55,599 for our course out to on this, but there's some interesting things that 73 00:07:51,919 --> 00:08:02,080 possibly could be involved in updating our UDF that may bring us into the f 74 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:05,919 present times. So >> and there will definitely be time for 75 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:12,080 that feedback. Right now we're still in that preliminary phase, but it's it's 76 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:19,599 exciting. We're making progress. >> Mr. Mayor, if I may have a couple items, 77 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:28,680 the joint water intake we did receive the temporary construction from all the 78 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,680 property owners. Uh the contracts, 79 00:08:29,039 --> 00:08:38,240 materials moving in and works. So contract 80 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:44,240 joint intake is a 630 project and then the contract fee is 39 days. So 81 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:50,839 things are progressing. So we're starting to move there. Um for fire 82 00:08:47,839 --> 00:08:50,839 department 83 00:08:51,680 --> 00:09:00,640 contract in place some contractors the contracts are being 84 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:07,200 led with them. Things are starting to progress there. 85 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:12,880 We did have slight hold up on some tile, but we're working through that. But 86 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:18,000 again, thanks for addressing that. Lastly, I'll mention 87 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:23,200 I made reference to the possibility for an ordinance that would involve the 88 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:30,279 operation of parks in some areas of the town. And this is very preliminary. 89 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,279 haven't drafted an ordinance yet 90 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:40,399 who has an ordinance in place. There's several other towns and locations around 91 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:46,839 us who have that. Uh so started to draft an ordinance there 92 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,839 offering your consideration. 93 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:54,320 If you don't mind out that looks like the storm drains are getting ready to go 94 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:59,440 in the fire department. Is there anything that you want to report? 95 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,120 » No. Well, we got the site's pretty much level now. I mean, that's that's all the 96 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,399 grade continues. >> So, next will be the plumbing and 97 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:11,880 electrical going in underground stuff going in next and the builders for the 98 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,880 new steel building. 99 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,399 » Yes, sir. 100 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:25,200 » Do you have any e issues from the board? 101 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,399 old business. 102 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:44,640 » So, I'm so proud of the support from the 103 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:50,399 board and to the town, the fire department, the police department. I'm 104 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:56,880 especially proud of Commissioner Harland Homer and Epson. Tell us all how 105 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,440 many phone calls you made to churches, please. 106 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:00,959 » 105. >> 105. 107 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:06,399 » Wow. >> She's doing that to get the bells to 108 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:14,160 ring all at one time. And find a lot of churches don't have bells. U we have a 109 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:18,560 full day plan. Uh the charters of freedom. Well, I'm sorry. Let me back 110 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:22,560 up. At 11 o'clock, we're going to show the uh Washington, what's the name of 111 00:11:21,839 --> 00:11:25,040 that? >> American Miracles. 112 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:30,079 » American Miracle. And I've heard everybody say it's wonderful. You can 113 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:37,360 get it on Apple TV or at Liberty Theater for free at 11:00 on 4th of July. We're 114 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:42,560 having at 2 o'clock the Charters of Freedom 115 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:48,480 Memorial. And if you haven't been by the books for a town hall, it's fabulous. 116 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:53,760 It's the documents are going in now. It's the Constitution, the Declaration 117 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:59,600 of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and the Civil Rights Act. Uh we're going to 118 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:06,000 have a dedication there at 2:00 p.m. on the 4th. And a lot of us are all 119 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:15,360 involved in that. Um when we're leaving Bay at 4:00, we're going to have a 120 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:21,920 American 250 pageant at the museum, the old courthouse and we're going to have 121 00:12:18,959 --> 00:12:27,360 George Washington proclaim or proclaiming the Declaration of 122 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:34,399 Independence and the parade will start there soon after and Fred Costello and 123 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:38,959 the his group have put together a fabulous parade full of people and 124 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:47,360 hopefully horses. That was the number one people as for going to have horses 125 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:54,320 at the end of the parade. That's going to go from Wilsboro to 126 00:12:49,279 --> 00:13:00,639 North Wilsboro and then we're having the meltdown at the farmers market at 5:00. 127 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:04,480 We're going to have historical speakers throughout the afternoon. We're going to 128 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:09,839 have presentations for children and games and things for them to play. They 129 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:12,480 have ice creams and hot dogs and how many? Six food trucks. 130 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,360 » Eight. >> Eight food trucks. So, plenty to eat 131 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:22,720 there. A lot of good stuff going on. Uh we're going to make an announcement 132 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:28,720 about the North Holsboro train station there and the uh the who owns it and we 133 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:34,800 own it and we're going to make that public and we're going to have a speaker 134 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:40,959 there as well. And we're going to follow that up with a the 135 00:13:37,839 --> 00:13:44,880 Wilks symphony as I'm calling it now because 136 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:48,959 I've got the tool pit and I'm going to call it the symphony. I'm doing that 137 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:53,360 because I'm hoping that we can continue this. Uh we have 20ome people in our 138 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:59,600 symphony orchestra that are going to play 139 00:13:55,279 --> 00:14:06,000 full repertoire of his patriotic hymns and veterans memorials and and the 1812 140 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:09,440 overure and all that. And we have 20ome people in choir that are going to sing 141 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:16,120 along with it and they're going to play that about 10:30 in the evening. So I'll 142 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:16,120 leave anything out. 143 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:24,480 » So thank you Andrew. Still and and this man has been cutting things and 144 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:29,199 gathering things and taking photo press to put in. Tell them about your time 145 00:14:26,079 --> 00:14:34,560 cap. So, I'm doing uh with the group and some people, we're doing a time capsule 146 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:38,720 that'll be open in 50 years. And I took a picture of every building in downtown 147 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:43,519 North Wilsbor, every restaurant in North Wilsboro. Went in and got their menus, 148 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:49,360 either got to go menus or pictures of the menus, every church in town, all the 149 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:55,440 town properties and parks, um all the gas stations because I didn't 150 00:14:52,079 --> 00:15:00,560 know if they'd be here in 50 years, uh all the um grocery stores, retail 151 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:05,040 stores, and other important buildings like the hospital and different things. 152 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:09,600 And we printed we're just doing like traditional photos that are 4x6 and 153 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:14,399 we're putting them in archival sleeves so they don't stick together. Um so 154 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:17,839 that'll have a lot of photos documented. I've got patches from the police 155 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,800 department, fire department, and some things like that. I went to the speedway 156 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:24,639 and took a bunch of pictures and they donated some stuff to the Tommy Cap. So, 157 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:30,320 I've got business cards from a lot of businesses in town, uh, all sorts of 158 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:35,440 brochures from the Chamber of Commerce, um, different posters and things that 159 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:40,880 are promoting stuff this year. And, um, going to try to get some letters from 160 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:45,519 the board and picture of the board. Um, we're doing a thing at the 4th of July 161 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:50,000 where kids can sign a constitution. It'll go in there. Large entry got us a 162 00:15:48,079 --> 00:15:54,560 constitution with a feather pin. And we made these cards where a kid say, um, 163 00:15:52,959 --> 00:15:57,120 this is my name. This is how old I am, this is how old I'll be in 50 years, 164 00:15:55,839 --> 00:16:02,720 what I want to be when I grow up, and we're going to put that in there. And, 165 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:07,920 um, I think, uh, there's a few other things like I for fun, I put a pack of 166 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:12,959 baseball cards and basketball cards and, um, just some other things. And Rain 167 00:16:09,839 --> 00:16:18,240 Stern Funeral Home is donating these two plastic vault things that like an earn 168 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:23,600 goes in that are airtight. And they're donating a big vault that those And 169 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:29,600 that's going to be the time capsule. And um probably we're going to take all the 170 00:16:25,839 --> 00:16:34,720 documents and everything and seal it and vacuum sealer packs so that we'll 171 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:40,320 hopefully do well the next 50 years. And we have a a like a granite stone on top 172 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:45,040 with the town seal and when it should be open. And we're going to have an event 173 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,440 on Friday, October 9th. And we're not exactly sure where it's going to be yet 174 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:51,040 because we're still trying to decide where to bury it. We're thinking about 175 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:54,160 the fire department because We think it'd be the safest place because it's 176 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:58,320 such a new building. We don't know if it'll quite be ready and we've got some 177 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,000 other locations, but it's been way more work than I thought it would be when I 178 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:08,720 said I'll do this. But it's pretty cool and I've met a lot of nice people. 179 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:13,400 And you won't mind as well as 50 years. >> I still plan to be working every night. 180 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:19,760 » And uh I want to say Sandra had the idea um we've been meeting uh we have a group 181 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,679 of people that meet every other Wednesday basically since January to 182 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:27,360 come up with ideas for America 250. We've had the Daughters of American 183 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:32,080 Revolution, had people from the library, the Junior Auto Society, uh Fred from 184 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:36,160 the Rotary Club that's putting on the parade and all this stuff where people 185 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:41,440 came together and it's been really fun. We've made good friends with each other. 186 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:47,360 Um, but I think a cool thing is Sandra had a couple ideas. One was to paint the 187 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:51,120 uh fire hydrants and they're banded now in the art gallery. So, that's really 188 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:56,799 cool. And she had an idea to have all the churches ring their bells together 189 00:17:53,120 --> 00:18:00,960 at the at at the same time on July 4th. And so, they're going to ring the bells 190 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:05,600 at 4:00 when the parade starts. and she did literally call over a hundred people 191 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,559 trying to get it together and so far she's had a handful of people that say 192 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:14,640 they'll they'll do it. So if your church has a bail and you would like to try to 193 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:18,280 get to participate, talk to Sandra Speaker. 194 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,280 » Yeah. 195 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:28,160 » All right. New business. Mr. 196 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,799 We have a public hearing. >> Yes. 197 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:39,280 » If you don't mind to go ahead and enter us into the public hearing for item G. 198 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:45,440 This is for an annexation on Jones Dancy Street. This is the third time the board 199 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:48,440 has heard this item. So I will be pretty brief. 200 00:18:50,400 --> 00:19:00,080 We'll start with the the map. on the next. So this is a parcel on Dant 201 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:05,679 Street. The board of commissioners in the last couple months agreed to be done 202 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:11,840 to be done this property. The applicant is here tonight. If you have any 203 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:16,960 questions for them, but they would like to build a believe a single family 204 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:21,520 dwelling on this property and they would like to connect to town utilities. So 205 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:26,160 they have requested an annexation. They met all the requirements of the town to 206 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:32,240 be annexed in the town limits and this is a continuous annexation. It is 207 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:35,240 roughly 3/4 of a mile from IGA off of Highway 208 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,880 18. >> Yes, 209 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:46,760 » it's in behind the CQ. It's sort of in behind the CQ building. 210 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:53,720 Would you like to speak on your behalf? 211 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:04,120 » No, he said he doesn't. >> Does anybody else have any comments? 212 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:17,039 If not, we'll close the public hearing and I will ask for a motion to either 213 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,039 approve or not approve. 214 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:23,120 Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we approve the annexation. 215 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:27,280 Do I need to list the partial number for Dylan? 216 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:31,919 » Uh, if you can just approve the ordinance 26-21. 217 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:40,559 » Okay. I uh approve the uh I make a motion to approve ordinance 20 26-21 218 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:46,320 for annexation of the property stated in the agenda. 219 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:51,640 » Second. Any discussion on Northsburg? 220 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,640 » Yes. Welcome to North. 221 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,840 » Thank you. Congratulations. 222 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 » Program. 223 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:19,360 Good evening, commissioners. Um, in your agenda packet, you have the downtown 224 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:24,960 Northsboro building improvement grant program before you for consideration 225 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:29,760 tonight. Um, this was developed to encourage private investment in downtown 226 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:34,559 by providing financial assistance in the form of a grant for projects that would 227 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:39,360 improve properties, activate vacant spaces, and contribute to the overall 228 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:44,320 economic vitality of downtown. Um, this is something I've been working on for a 229 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:49,520 while and I've been gauging the need in our community. Um, and I've included 230 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:56,240 that in my departmental report for over a year now. Um, so this is the the 231 00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:00,799 guidelines and the application and the draft of the rubric that are included in 232 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:06,640 your packet. Uh, so the guidelines go through the purpose, what the program 233 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:11,280 goals are, eligibility criteria, um, eligible which would include 234 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:16,880 interior improvements like flooring installation, fire suppression systems, 235 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:20,960 plumbing, electric, excuse me, electrical uh kitchen installation or 236 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:25,600 buildout, roof replacement, HVAC upgrades, and restroom facilities to 237 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:32,640 name a few. Uh we list out ineligible costs um and identify that the grant 238 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:37,520 award amount would be up to $12,500. It's a reimbursement grant of up of 60% 239 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:43,360 of the total project cost up to that amount. Um, and this would be reimbursed 240 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:47,200 after the project is completed. We included a little blip about historic 241 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:51,760 tax credits so that property owners are aware of that incentive 242 00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:56,480 and outlined what the application process is. 243 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:01,280 um which would be applications would be accepted on a rolling basis starting 244 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:05,520 July 1st and it would run similar to how the facade grant program currently 245 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:09,440 operates. So applicants would submit their application and all the required 246 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:14,320 documentation to the downtown local partnership board. We would review um 247 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:19,520 and we would consult with appropriate staff for the projects and then this 248 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:24,480 particular grant would have a rubric which is included. The PA grant doesn't 249 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:28,080 have a rubric. Um there's just certain criteria that an applicant needs to 250 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:32,880 meet. And then once the partnership board approves the grant application, 251 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:36,880 applicants would be required to sign a grant agreement outlining the terms and 252 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:41,120 conditions. Once the project is completed, they would submit paid 253 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:47,440 receipts or clear checks and we would reimburse them for the eligible cost. I 254 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:54,400 included the application for you and then the scoring rubric which has um 255 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:58,960 it's on point scale and applicants have to have at least 60 points to be 256 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:03,360 considered. And it has categories that include economic impact, historic 257 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:06,799 preservation, housing creation, property activation, private investment, 258 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:11,039 leverage, public safety, and then overall community benefit. So, if 259 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:17,120 adopted tonight, the program would become effective July 1st, allowing us 260 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:20,720 to begin accepting applications and support projects in this upcoming fiscal 261 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:25,200 year. Are there any questions? 262 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:30,000 » Couple questions. So there there will not be any public hearing involved in 263 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:36,039 this process. >> Okay. So we will be approving this 264 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,039 tonight. 265 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,440 » You're hoping for approval or disapprove. Okay. 266 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,640 » And if there's any feedback or changes that need to be made, then I can come 267 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:50,080 back for approval. >> My question would be and I will be 268 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:56,240 totally transparent with this. I found two buildings I think that fall into 269 00:24:52,159 --> 00:25:03,919 this and we've had one application for the other program that was done years 270 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:07,919 ago and so I know my wife is certainly interested in taking part in this and I 271 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:13,840 just want to be upfront and transparent about that. Of course Mr. Palmer I think 272 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:17,679 has a bill and maybe others. So just want to make the public aware that 273 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:24,480 that's going on and would fall under the same guidelines and rubric that's a test 274 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:28,559 of qualifications. >> Anybody 275 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:33,120 » I've got a few questions more just so it'll kind of highlight some things for 276 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:38,240 people to understand. I don't want any buildings in downtown. 277 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:43,279 » Okay. >> Um so what's the amount and Is there a 278 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:49,840 match? >> Um the it's a 60% 279 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:54,960 reimbursement up to $12,500. >> Yeah, that's good. And um some examples 280 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,159 of some things I know I ask you about. One big thing that I think is important 281 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,640 is it'll roof. >> Yes. 282 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:04,279 » A lot of our buildings problems and things 283 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:14,240 otherunities you looked at. >> Yes, I I looked through several 284 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:20,960 community um grant applications and packets uh and they do they cover 285 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:26,240 similar um improvements to properties. Some communities have a specific roof 286 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:32,720 grant um but most of them have just a general building 287 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:36,000 that needs a roof really. >> Does some of these things would it apply 288 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,799 to like upstairs res? >> Yes. 289 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:44,039 » How about like a building? things like 290 00:26:45,679 --> 00:26:52,000 » I think that's it. Well, I appreciate it. Think this is great and I hope the 291 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,159 board got a lot of buildings downtown that 292 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,159 need some attention. 293 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:08,320 You know, downtown is getting where that if I'm a if I'm a business owner 294 00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:13,039 upstairs, I made an apartment above the business to rent out to somebody. 295 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:16,880 Can this grant be used for putting a a fire alarm system in the building to 296 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:19,520 notify the people upstairs that the building is burning? Yes. 297 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,240 » I mean, >> that would be a good grant to put out 298 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,760 there because I mean, right now, we don't know. We're still having a hard 299 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,360 time finding apartments. Sometime people living in places all the time we didn't 300 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:32,559 know they was there. >> So maybe some way to notify them to get 301 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,320 them out of that building quick enough because these old buildings downtown, 302 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,360 they burn quick when they start burning. That would be a big plus that we ought 303 00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:44,440 to really push for the business owners downtown. 304 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,440 » Good com 305 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:56,000 managers. I call him the AIG. He's not listening to me, but he he uses his 306 00:27:52,480 --> 00:28:03,520 phone and photograph and can do a facade upgrade on his phone. Spectac 307 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:07,679 I'm telling the talent and think about the hundreds of thousands of dollars 308 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:14,080 that could save people and we're working on some plans that maybe would work with 309 00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:19,679 the chamber or other groups downtown that maybe could help us do some of 310 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:24,720 that. So, we're making progress. I think it's a good thing and I just 311 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:28,559 want everybody to know that I want to be part of it, too. 312 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:34,159 » I think I think it's a great thing and I'm curious if we approve it then. Do we 313 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:40,080 go back into our budget? >> So, I presented I presented this at the 314 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:43,200 budget retreat. I didn't have I didn't have this to present for approval at 315 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,919 that point. >> We were smart enough to give you the 316 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,919 money. 317 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:57,679 T one other thing. Is it is it only available for buildings inside the CBD 318 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:01,600 district? >> Well, it's a little bit bigger than our 319 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:08,200 CBD district. It's our historic downtown. Yeah. So, there's the 320 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,200 includes. 321 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:15,679 » I got a couple more things. Um the money is a pool of money. It's basically the 322 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,039 same money we use for facade grants. Correct. 323 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:24,320 » Correct. So in the the past fiscal year we had $20,000 set aside in our facade 324 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:28,640 grant line item and in the next fiscal year it will be 45,000 to include facade 325 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,360 and >> so grit 326 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,720 as it was before. >> Yes. And there's years that go by when 327 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:42,799 the facade does we don't use. >> Correct. I also just want to say I think 328 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:47,760 this is important particularly for our downtown because we have the only 329 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:53,919 downtown that's like a real formal downtown with many streets in in Wils 330 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:56,720 County and I think that it's important we take care of it because it's 331 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,520 historical and it's telling what we've got be very 332 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:06,080 » okay >> good 333 00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:09,200 » for a certain amount of time. So, I'm going to do my best not to talk 334 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,200 too long so we don't run out of more storage. 335 00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:26,399 » Good evening, board. It's good to see you all. Um, here tonight to talk about 336 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:31,039 a build grant presentation that you guys have had a little bit of time to 337 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:34,880 marinate on. Um, I've sent an email out. You guys have also got in your agenda 338 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:40,559 packet of staff report that kind of goes over the um the details of the bill 339 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:44,480 grant. Um so we're just going to dive right in the bill to the bill grant 340 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:48,320 summary. Bill grants bail bill stands for veterans utilizing investments to 341 00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:52,880 leverage development is your wonderful acronym for the day. It previously 342 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:57,600 existed under Tiger and Ray's grants under previous administrations. Um don't 343 00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:01,600 ask me to quote what that means because I would not be able to tell you those 344 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,559 acronyms. Um historically it's funded service transportation projects. So 345 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,919 you're talking active transportation, you're talking greenways, you're talking 346 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:11,279 uh sidewalks, things like that with specific priority to active 347 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:14,080 transportation in previous rounds. And when I mean rounds, I'm talking 348 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:18,880 administration rounds. Um previous administrations have um have shown 349 00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:22,240 priority to this. The current administration is showing priority to 350 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:26,320 projects that reduce roadway fatalities, i.e. traffic economic. 351 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:30,640 So just a little bit about this grant. It was established in 2009. So you're 352 00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:34,399 looking at two more years, it'll be 20 years that it has been funded. And it 353 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:41,360 was originally established under an annual appropriation act, but 354 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:44,880 in 2021 it was authorized um in to be something that is more like we don't 355 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:49,120 really envision this grant going away. We just envision it changing colors. So 356 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,240 um so you know it's something that has kind of withtood the administration's 357 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:57,440 test of time just showing difference in priorities. 358 00:31:53,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Um oops wrong thing. So objectives and intent. There's two portions of this 359 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:05,760 grant I'm going to focus on and that's planning and implementation. So the goal 360 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:09,519 is to obtain a planning build grant as a joint application between the two towns. 361 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,279 The big thing about this grant is that it scores well when we have a joint 362 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:16,480 application between two municipalities. Um that's really honestly I would say 363 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:21,279 without that you're probably better off not going for it. Um upon completion of 364 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:24,880 the planning build grants the idea would be to use those planning documents which 365 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,279 are shovel ready documents. You're talking construction documents, 366 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,039 environmental plans, feasibility studies, signage plans, all those good 367 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:35,279 things. And then go for the implementation side of the build grant 368 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:41,039 as a joint applicant or maybe a separate applicant. Um, you know, obviously 369 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:45,679 supporting our sister town and Okay, there you go. Okay, continuing 370 00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:48,799 on to the objectives and the intent, the estimated scope of deliverables for the 371 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,600 planning of Bill Green. So, you guys had a little bit of a breakdown of this in 372 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:55,120 your agenda packet, the staff report in the email I sent earlier. I'm going to 373 00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:59,440 briefly go over it and then I would absolutely welcome feedback on this. So 374 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:02,720 establish construction ready documents. What I'm telling you is when we get 375 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,399 these documents, the idea behind them is they have costs in them and they have 376 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,760 documents that we can then take to a capital improvement grant and we can 377 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,320 because without that they're going to how much it's going to cost? How many 378 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,600 linear feet are you doing? What's the feasibility? How does the public feel 379 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:19,840 about it? Things like that. So when we come out of this grant, the idea would 380 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,679 be a construction ready documents um with an implementation strategy. And 381 00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:27,360 again, who's going to pay for it? Grants, donations, things like that. 382 00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:30,799 Obviously, you know, maybe appropriations for our general fund, 383 00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:34,399 things like that. But again, we kind of need this in order to go for any kind of 384 00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:38,720 implementation of these projects. So, the strategic implementation strategy is 385 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,799 going to be Yaki River Greenway, historic downtown Wilsboro's phase two 386 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:47,360 of their development, North Wilsboro's downtown river district master plan. 387 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,799 Some additional deliverables would be a maintenance, accessibility, and signage 388 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,640 plan for the Aken River Greenway. So, I'm a heavy greenway user. We love our 389 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:58,480 greenways. We also love our parks. I think one thing we're we would could use 390 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,320 more of is consistency with accessibility so people know what 391 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:06,880 they're coming into when they come in if they have accessibility needs. Signage 392 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,359 plans, wayfinding is a big thing. Um, consistency, especially in our 393 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:13,200 greenways, is really important, especially when it comes to emergency 394 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:17,200 services and things like that. And then a maintenance plan because, as much as 395 00:34:15,359 --> 00:34:20,320 I'd like to say this, 40 years from now, I probably will not be around. And we 396 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:25,760 want to make sure that this maintenance plan is in place so that previous future 397 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:28,879 planners and planning directors and staff of the town have something that 398 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:33,280 they can hang their hat on instead of well who's in charge of maintaining this 399 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:36,960 because you'd be surprised two decades go by and people start forgetting those 400 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:42,159 kind of things. So something that could kind of withstand um staff's coming and 401 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:47,040 going. Um and then the final thing as part of this grant would be to have a 402 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:50,320 project grants manager procure with the grants funds to assist 403 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,720 with the process. That does not mean take this completely and run with it but 404 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:59,920 provide a little bit of alleviation for staff throughout that process. That is 405 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:04,240 obviously the intent of the entirety of the grant. Um 406 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:07,599 there's projects in North Folks Road Downtown River District master plan to 407 00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:11,520 kind of hone in on that would probably score well or score the best. So I don't 408 00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:15,680 think we could do the entirety of the plan, but we would we would pick what we 409 00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:19,920 feel like in with the grant writer is just something that's going to score us 410 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,920 well. Obviously that's the goal and I think 411 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:31,839 next slide for me it's not. No, it's back. It's back. 412 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Okay. Some success stories. I'm going to go over them very quickly. Barton 413 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:42,960 County, Kansas got a $239,000 planning project for accessible public 414 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:47,760 transportation master plan. Um, you got Ward County, North Dakota. They got a $4 415 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:53,280 million planning grant for growth um, driving intermobile connector. Um, 416 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,880 they are, you know, obviously that is again back to that kind of active 417 00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:02,480 service transportation plan. Um, the city of Homer, Alaska got a grant for 418 00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:06,160 $2,50,000. It is also a planning project to plan 419 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:12,480 and design a comprehensive network of non-motorized infrastructure. 420 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,359 City of Mina, Arkansas got a planning project to create an active 421 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,320 transportation master street and ADA transition plan. So, what you can see is 422 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:24,560 kind of the common theme behind a lot of these um grand recipients is that it is, 423 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:27,760 you know, it's it's a plan to kind of hopefully move it into the next phase, 424 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:32,000 right? None of none of these in the planning stage are are you're going to 425 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:35,599 see food shovels in the ground. Um, okay. Now, we're going to go over some 426 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:40,800 pros. But before I do that, I'm going to pull up something because I believe in 427 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:47,440 your initial um staff report, I did give you kind of a rough estimate on what 428 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:53,200 we're shooting for from a uh from a total like grant amount. Give me one 429 00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:57,240 second. I'm going to pull that up. I don't think I included that. 430 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:09,040 » Okay. So, the idea behind that is to shoot for something, you know, in the in 431 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:14,160 the in the recipient. Right now, we roughly have $2 million dedicated for 432 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:17,599 the active river greenway systemwide feasibility study that I talked about 433 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,160 ADA accessibility, signage, stuff like that, maintenance plan. 850,000 434 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:27,599 dedicated towards the historic downtown Wilsboro engineering and design and 435 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:30,560 construction documents, two million for the North Wilsburg downtown and river 436 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:34,160 district engineering and design construction. You know, we have al got a 437 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,400 very big scope of work that we have compared to the downtown in Wilsboro and 438 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:43,440 then $500,000 for a project manager. This is a very 439 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:47,200 big political competitive grant, so we're going to need someone because this 440 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:51,839 is an multi-year grant. Um and then $550,000 for maintenance, accessibility, 441 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:59,599 and signage plans. So if you total all that up, um you're looking at about um 442 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:02,640 five almost $6 million. Um so, you know, we're we're well within that range of 443 00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:06,160 what they would we're going to shoot from the moon and see where we land. I 444 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,800 do expect some of these numbers to be altered and shifted and stuff, but that 445 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,640 kind of gives you a good idea of the breakdown of where we're where we're 446 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:16,400 heading. So, the pros to applying for this grant, it's a multi- town 447 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:19,760 collaboration. Um there's no secret that I used to work for Wilsboro. I work 448 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,320 great with Wilsboro. I think they've got some great things going. We've worked 449 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:26,000 really well together with the Outdoor Economy Group. I think there's pros to 450 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:30,320 continue to work with both towns. When both towns succeed, the Wolves County 451 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:34,880 succeeds. So I think that's kind of a given. The great thing about this is you 452 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,920 come out with shovel ready planning documents for some of the downtown river 453 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:42,160 district projects. We don't have those currently. We have a wonderful plan that 454 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:46,560 you as the board um had the forethought and wherewithal to go forward with that 455 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:51,119 plan. Now we're ready to move forward with some of the next steps. 456 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:54,560 Greenway expansion expansion feasibility and maintenance plan. These are and I 457 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,920 can't really harbor enough how important some of these are. A maintenance plan is 458 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,760 really important. Um there is a maintenance plan in place currently, but 459 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:06,079 it's got a lot of dust on the shelf. Um expansion of our greenway system, I 460 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:10,800 think means healthcare north, which is ultimately there. um downtown 461 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:14,160 development in historic downtown Wsboro. Again, if we can become a destination of 462 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,160 both towns, we ultimately benefit businesses and the residents of both 463 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:22,160 towns. And then the number one I'm going to hang my hat on is there's no grant 464 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:26,480 match required. So, you know, this is we're going for, you know, upwards of $5 465 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:30,720 million. There is no grant match required for this grant. Um and there is 466 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:35,680 no grant match required for the capital grants because we and you can go up to 467 00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:39,839 25 million on the capital grant. We are a rural town. we fall under those rule 468 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,599 standards. So, there isn't a match. Again, I don't know of a grant that 469 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:47,839 gives you $25 million that doesn't have a match. So, again, that's that's those 470 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:51,839 are some pros to hang your hat on. Some cons. Um, this will likely have to 471 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:57,760 submit for this grant two plus times. Um, I'm going to give you the grant cost 472 00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:01,839 in just a second, but what I do want to hit home is that we do expect the 473 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:05,040 resubmission costs to be cheaper than the initial cost of the submission. 474 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,400 However, I think it's really important and reasonable that we look at this 475 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,440 being something we submit to plus times because I don't want to come back a year 476 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,000 later and say we didn't get it and then there'd not really be interest in 477 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,640 resubmitting it because I do think that we need to work towards it if we're 478 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:22,480 going to commit to it. Um the two plus submission again it's a political and 479 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:26,320 highly competitive grant. So it's a federal grant so it's nationwide. You 480 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:30,400 are competing with other people. We did that similar with our brownfields grant. 481 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:34,000 We were the only one in North Carolina to get the grant. So I think that's 482 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:40,000 something to be proud of but it is something that's political um planning 483 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:44,800 staff capacity um you know with this grant with EPA grant and our daily 484 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:49,520 duties we would we'd be at capacity to pursue grant through the grant process 485 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:55,040 as well as the grant submission process. It's just nature of force Kurt and I do 486 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:59,599 our best to do it all but we can only do so much. Um so you know that will tie us 487 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,079 up through the grant process to pursue other grants. Um, administration changes 488 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,200 could benefit or be a detriment to future submissions. I wish I had a 489 00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:10,800 crystal ball, but two years from now, we've got a new wonderful new election. 490 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,000 So, that could change their priorities. Could be a pro, could be a con. Um, I'm 491 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,560 not going to commit to either one because I've been wrong before and I'll 492 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,640 probably So, you know, I think that's obviously 493 00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:23,119 something to um think about. And then the grant may not 494 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:26,240 score well under this current administration. You know, our goal is to 495 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,040 work with a grant writer who has a lot of experience with federal grants and 496 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,160 they're going to tell us, "Okay, hey guys, I think under this current thing, 497 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:36,880 we're going to try to curtail this to best meet the what the grant wants." 498 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:41,359 Ultimately, administrations change and that could 499 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:44,800 change. Um, the grant submission date and the reason why we're coming to you 500 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,920 today is February 27th. And while that seems a long way away, this is probably 501 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:50,960 one of the hardest grants we will do. So, we need time to plan. So, I want to 502 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:55,040 have the wherewithal to come to you guys and seek request because this is going 503 00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:59,359 to come we're going to be hitting ground running if we get approval from this. 504 00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:03,839 Um, we would like to not find out until July or June of 2027. So, you're looking 505 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,200 into the new fiscal year of next year. If we didn't get it, the goal would be 506 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,400 to come back and request the money in either this current this upcoming fiscal 507 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:17,280 year or depending on when we find out it could be the next fiscal year. um 508 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:22,960 as of May in your um as you can see in your grant packet. Um 509 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:26,000 and and I I kind of touched in this to kind of give a broad overview, but I 510 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:30,079 have gone into more detail in your staff report. We've got two grant partners 511 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,119 that have put together proposals that you'll find in your grant staff report. 512 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:38,800 The Ferguson group and innovative funding partners. Um 513 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:42,319 they have given a price. The good news is Wils After Economy work group has 514 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:47,280 agreed to cost share a third of the price and Wilsboro has agreed as their 515 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:50,960 main meeting to pursue this grant not to exceed 12,000 from their entity. So I 516 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:56,640 think what we're we're asking from you tonight is if you choose to go with this 517 00:42:53,040 --> 00:43:01,280 grant I will need a motion to not exceed 12,000 on the from our entity from grant 518 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:05,599 services. So ultimately in total that would be 36,000. we would not be going 519 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,640 over that amount, but want to make sure we have enough to be able to pursue 520 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:15,040 those grant writing services for a grant this size. Um, I have included those 521 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:19,359 submissions in your packet and with that being said, I'm going to turn it over to 522 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:23,119 you guys. I know this is a decent amount of information and I'm here to answer 523 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:27,040 any questions. Let me point out a couple of things if I 524 00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:33,839 may. When you talk about shovel projects, think big or small. Recently, 525 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:39,359 uh, we've been notified of crosswalk improvements in the town that is coming 526 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:43,119 from the DOT that's going to help improve our traffic patterns and so 527 00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:49,359 forth. That's not going to cost us anything, but this could help in the 528 00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:55,359 development of that. The river district is most likely to expand with 529 00:43:52,720 --> 00:44:01,920 opportunities soon and hopefully will include some areas around Memorial Park 530 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:06,960 and the block 26. I think we need to come up with a better name for the block 531 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:11,280 26 by the way. And then traffic calming is something that this possible 532 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:16,640 expansion, we've been working on some things to redirect traffic, 533 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:22,160 I'm sorry, redirect heavy truck traffic off of Main Street. So that could 534 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:27,839 possibly play into that. And then the last thing, just I would like to applaud 535 00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:34,160 you for two things. Your leadership in grant writing proposals that we've gone 536 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:38,960 after lately for Memorial Park and different greenway projects and and so 537 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:43,119 you've been a real team leader in that. So, thank you and if we're hurrying, 538 00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:47,520 we'll still make your wife happy by getting you to her birthday. 539 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:51,280 » I appreciate it. I will say that to give you a brief breakdown of what that 540 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:56,319 timeline looks like. Submission in February. She's going to be happy to say 541 00:44:53,040 --> 00:45:01,680 that submission in February, notification sometime in the summer, 542 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:05,040 early fall of 2027. And you're looking at probably running this five years, 543 00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:11,200 four to five years. So you're looking at five plus years for this planning grant. 544 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,359 » Essentially you're talking about 12,500. >> Yeah. 545 00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:15,680 » We're going to say 12,000 for this >> and then if we have to reapply it would 546 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:20,079 be less than that. >> Yeah. I don't guarantee 547 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:23,560 » Yeah. Yeah. >> We don't want to assume. 548 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,240 » I'm open to Yeah. Any questions you have. I just want to kind of break down 549 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,400 what that's going to look like from a timeline standpoint. Capacity and then 550 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,440 cost >> like you just said 551 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:44,240 repeat that it's very rare to get an opportunity of a grant of size and 552 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:53,760 magnitude that doesn't require a 50% match or at least anywhere from 553 00:45:48,560 --> 00:46:00,720 five to 50% match for so to me if you if you're looking at going after it's it's 554 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:06,440 the pain versus the gains and to me $12,500 555 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,440 investment potentially 556 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:14,640 drop kick into the stratosphere starting point for growth in the two towns 557 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,480 together. I don't see how you turn it down 558 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:24,560 personally >> and books for us cooperation. Well, 559 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:30,640 books for far beyond the planning. It started there but we're moving on all 560 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:33,520 hands on deck with that. So, >> do you want to clear it 12,000? So, when 561 00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:35,920 we make a motion >> 12,000 562 00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:39,119 » not 12,500 yet. >> I know that's a technicality, but I 563 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,119 don't want to sign books for for another $500. 564 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,440 I've got a few questions. >> Yes, sir. 565 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,800 » So, when you say it will put the planning department at capacity, what 566 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,079 does that mean? >> So, I've got an EPA brownfields grant 567 00:46:54,720 --> 00:47:00,720 that's currently in the works. You know, I expect an RFQ to go out soon. Um, you 568 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,880 know, I I think you are well aware of all what we do. Um, I know from the 569 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:09,040 planning side, things worse than I spend a significant amount of time obviously 570 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:13,520 helping the public. Um, I'll be at capacity when it comes to 571 00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:17,280 grants. Are we going to have to hire another planning person? 572 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,800 » I don't I don't think so. I just think that for grants for the next couple of 573 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,640 years, this is tie us up. >> Just for grants, not 574 00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:27,440 » Yeah. I mean, because because I because I feel like it's my duty, you know, 575 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,000 obviously we have other things to do in the planning department outside of 576 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,200 grants. And, you know, I want to make sure it's clear that, you know, I don't 577 00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:36,960 want there to be a lapse in helping the public with other things. So, that's 578 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:40,240 where that capacity comes in. >> Got a variety of questions here that are 579 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,839 not in any particular order, but I'm going to 580 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,160 Yeah. >> What what do you think our chances of 581 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,839 getting? >> So, I think that goes back to the two 582 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,640 plus times. You know, um we can play a game of where the administration's going 583 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,599 to be two years from now, we will have a new president. I mean, that's just 584 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,640 that's the reality. So, you know, that that could change things. If we're on 585 00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,720 our second submission and a new president comes in board and we have to 586 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,440 maybe curtail where that grant goes. I mean, I I I can't see through a crystal 587 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:07,839 ball, but I know one thing. We will have a new president. I mean that's and they 588 00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:11,920 hire I'm going to butcher the the department but they are in charge of the 589 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:15,280 head of head of transportation over at the federal government. So ultimately 590 00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:17,839 yes the transportation could change you know under the B administration from 591 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,359 what I know because I know quite a bit about the race because we've been 592 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,200 talking about this for a while. It was very much active transportation heavy 593 00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:28,480 that that was that was one of the goals. What what can we do to reduce 594 00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:32,400 environmental pollution caused by motor vehicles? That is not the case with the 595 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,240 new administration. However, they kind of still go back to that active 596 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,920 transportation, but it could change with new administration. So, yeah. Um, I 597 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:43,680 think there's I think we have a project that bodess well for submission. I just 598 00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:47,839 can't tell you how many times it's going to take to go for it. We have just been 599 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:51,200 told by both grant writers that to likely expect two plus submissions. 600 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,440 » You said that it's political. Is there anything we can do politically to try to 601 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:58,240 help make it increase our chances? >> Without confirming with our attorney, 602 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:03,040 I'm going to say that yes, it's a political grant. I'm not sure how much 603 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:06,960 the town can can contribute to that, but but yes, we do have senators and 604 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,319 representatives that as long as it's okay with the grant, I again I'm going 605 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,520 to preface that. I don't want to do anything that's going to put the talent 606 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,800 in liability, but as long as we, you know, is that something that's okay with 607 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,520 the grant, again, I would defer to them to be the ones I don't want to even use 608 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,599 the word lobby, but >> I was going to say, what about the 609 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,520 lobby? >> So, they're one of the people who would 610 00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:29,760 actually have a lobbying firm. I just without seeing the nature of the federal 611 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:33,839 grant. I know lobbying for an EPA grant was a strict hard no. Um I don't think 612 00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:36,240 that's the case with this, but I don't want to commit to something that's going 613 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,520 to put us in. >> What all does this lock us into? Like if 614 00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:43,119 we had somebody a developer come that wanted to do something at block 46 615 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,480 that's going to hold up any of that? >> I don't think it's going to hold it up. 616 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:49,359 I think it could show what we have plans as far as visions. You know, of course, 617 00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:53,040 if we're using private property, we'd have to get somebody to buy on to that, 618 00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:56,240 right? So, we're going to start with some of our public property that we own. 619 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,760 That would be priority number one because you know, obviously we have 620 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:02,960 control of that. Um, but then yes, there could end up being a partnership where 621 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,359 we we have easements or something to be able to build some of this stuff. 622 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:08,160 » So, if somebody approaches us while we're applying for this, this is not 623 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,079 going to affect that. >> No, because I think I don't completely 624 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,559 commit to it. I think this gives us the ability to have a planning document. I 625 00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:18,559 still go back to we're probably going to stick with a lot of public stuff because 626 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,760 without, you know, consider we don't want to be a co-op to develop, right? We 627 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:24,559 want we want to work >> already pass this. 628 00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:28,079 » Yeah, at their main meeting they did agree to pursue the grants not to see 629 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:33,760 12,000 from their >> um I've got one more question. 630 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:38,240 » Can we get reimbured through this for our downtown comprehensive plan for 631 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,599 » I don't think we can get reimbured but what I will say is is that 632 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,359 » as part of that grant that's already in place we will be hiring a brownfield 633 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,640 grant manager. Is that >> correct? So, the grants manager is going 634 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,520 to we have a little bit of a switch in and things to actually save us a little 635 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:56,640 bit of money and it will save us time in the long run so we don't have to go 636 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:59,440 through um different RFQS processes. We're going to combine the grants 637 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,040 manager with a qualified environmental professional. That way, we save a little 638 00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:06,640 bit of money and time, but yes, there would be a grants manager. That person 639 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:10,079 doesn't necessarily do everything. They are making sure you're in line with all 640 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,040 these wonderful bureaucratic federal regulations, 641 00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:16,640 » but that will help lessen the workload just a little. 642 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,599 » Yes. The intention is to try to at least make sure we're staying on top and 643 00:51:18,079 --> 00:51:21,599 things. It still requires staff to be pretty. 644 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,440 » And I guess my last question is kind of an overall question, but you feel like 645 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,880 that you can do this grant and just other priorities the town has that we 646 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,559 may need you for that could be also important to us that are like a burden, 647 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,760 you can still cover that. >> I think that yeah, I think the goal 648 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:38,240 would be to maintain capacity. You know, I want to make sure we're serving more 649 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,559 tools. I don't want this to become a problem for my tools grow. I think just 650 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:49,760 that grant from the grant standpoint what ties. Okay. Any 651 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:57,640 other discussion? >> I entertain a motion to accept this 652 00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:57,640 grand application. 653 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:05,520 » All I need is a motion to accept pursuing that grant at a fee, not less 654 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:12,240 than 12, not more than 12,000. >> Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we 655 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:16,720 approve pursuing the build grant for the town of North Oakra not to exceed 656 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:19,440 $12,000 expenditure. Thank you.