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right. Good afternoon everyone. We will
call our meeting to order

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and a reminder to council to disclose
any pecuniary interest or general nature

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thereof.
And you can do that now or any time

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during the agenda.

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Approval of the agenda. Todd and Smokey.
Any questions, comments on the agenda?

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Call a vote. All in favor?
Close. Motion is carried. [snorts]

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Minutes of July 13th.

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Rob and a woman.

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Anything on the minutes?

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Call the vote. All in favor?
Opposed? The motion is carried.

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Move right into delegations.
Joe wrote forest safety and driveway

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concerns.
Joe,

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is he online or
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Okay, we [clears throat] will
go to item B.

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Chris Wilson, WSP, master plans for
Topamorei and Lion's Head. And Chris is

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here. Welcome, Chris.

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the presentation and I'll just mention
to change slides when uh we're done. So

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yes, uh I'm Chris from WSP.
Um we are the engineering consultant

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involved with the master plans for to
marine mines head working with the

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Ontario clean water agency and the
municipality of northern Bruce

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Peninsula.

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So uh go to the first overall slide. So
this is just a general overview of the

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project to date and and kind of the the
history of uh starting point. So we

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started this project back in 2022.
um there was some gaps in between just

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with um
some first nation consultation and some

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other aspects. So project has obviously
extended into a few years later than me

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but uh we're at the we're at the end
right now. So um so yes we've developed

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master plans for water and wastewater
for both communities of lines head

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looking into 2046 and beyond.
important components of it are climate

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change review social and economic
impacts as well as current limitations

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to growth in the two communities. So the
master plan approach that we utilized

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was approach number one and again a lot
of this all this information is

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documented in the master plans. Um so
this was it's a very broad master

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planning approach. Um the projects are
identified but we don't go into the

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schedule B schedule C details of the
individual projects. they would have to

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be completed under future EAS.
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So again, this is just giving a kind of
a overview of the morning water and

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wastewater alternatives. They're very
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alternative one for water and wastewater
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So that would be the smaller water
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and the um the larger wastewater system
obviously in town with existing other

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existing homes on septics or on well
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Two was expanding water servicing within
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area around for both water and waste
water and through the master plan

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process those were developed to be the
third solutions. very uh very similar

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layouts for both. Um we'll have some
mapping later on in the presentation

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which can which can showcase the areas.
Turn three, we don't have mapping in

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here on that but that was generally
caring for the downtown core and

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community area but expanding further out
into into the perimeter. So much more

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area, much more homes included um
greater cost etc to to service those uh

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locations.
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So water alternatives obviously we have
a established water system in Lion's

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Head. So alternative one was maintain
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Alternative two was expand to service
new growth or existing uh inel lots

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within the community and provide
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That that would became that came out to
be the um referred solution through the

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master plan process.
Alternative three again expands on

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alternative two. So it includes the same
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with Fireflow. And then alternative four
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still expanding in Lions Head but also
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Fireflow as well.
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basically have two alternatives.
Maintain a existing level of service

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which is septic systems or alternative
two is completion of a wastewater

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treatment plant, wastewater servicing
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So alternative two through the process,
you know, [clears throat] is a preferred

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solution. It is one of the larger
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established wastewater um system in
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Next page please.
So this page is giving a kind of a

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project status to date. So we've
completed a climate change memo for both

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communities.
A design basis report for both

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communities evaluation matrices have
been completed basically look at the

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criteria and um categories and how we
process the to come to the recommended

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solutions
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uh additions um letters have been
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notice commencement the PIC and
responses received similar for

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stakeholders agencies government
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um the notice of commencement was um
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the PIC's as well and responses have
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public information center for each
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the summertime in both communities
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were received um at the at the PIC's and
also through emails and they've been

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documented in the a general format
within the appendices within the master

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plans.
So specific emails etc are not uh

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necessarily provided but the comments
are are generalized to um carry forward

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the concerns and comments from the
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» [snorts]
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through various revisions in the last um
last year and uh we submitted the final

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draft um late last week. So those are
available um for further comment by the

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municipality and Ontario Clean Water
Agency um after this meeting.

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Next page, please.
This one's hard to see, but it just

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gives a general process for the
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assessment/master
plans. So basically we're in phase

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number two at the selection of the
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So then a notice of master plan would be
completed instead of a mass a notice of

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completion because it's not a EA per se
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then once that's complete then the
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out for the review period for the public
agencies etc. So all the agencies that

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were involved would be contacted
provided access to the reports for

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comment period and same with the public
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website for review and comment as well

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to the preferred water and wastewater
solutions for total rain lines head

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we've looked at current and future
growth considered up to the year 201

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and again of the infrastructure
solutions that are discussed. A phased

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approach is obviously a very appropriate
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provide these expansions etc to reduce
current impacts to reduce impacts to

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current water and wastewater services
properties with existing wells and

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septics and the overall community in
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Page please.
to move into the first solutions. So,

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we're showing you a map of Tomori that
we've considered for this option DS

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DWS2.
That's expand water servicing to the

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downtown CR community area.
Um the map shows somewhat existing

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development and future development
within the area with the red lines

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showing future and these were carried
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» [clears throat]
>> um discussions with municipality uh and

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developers to include in the in in the
area. So this option would include a new

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centralized water treating plant with
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capacity.
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So again this this one um now we're
looking at potential options within this

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and again these options are not finite.
They could be expanded under the future

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EAS but we've generally provided two
options for each um [clears throat]

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water and wastewater alternatives for
both communities. So, first we're

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starting with token water option one,
which we've looked at retrofitting the

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existing little tub water treating plant
to basically a low lift pumping station

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and a [clears throat] new centralized
water treating plant at a location

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within the community. So, basically the
the existing water treatment plant would

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be converted to a pumping station which
would then send water to a larger area

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for a waste water for a water treating
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So, we've we've showcased on the map um
two locations that we had looked at

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during the um application process. We
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they included a location at Brock and
Legion. So, currently right now, those

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are the two locations that we've
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for other locations that would be
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um whether you know property has to be
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um higher elevations for support of a
water tower etc. So under this option

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there could be potentially requirement
to extend deepen or lengthen the the

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water intake
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The water treatment water treatment land
would we be looking at providing proper

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fire flow. There would be approximately
7 kilometers of new distribution water

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main more fire hydrants within that
water main and obviously the

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disconnection of homes and put on water
service from their from their personal

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wells.
The new water tower would be

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approximately 2.5,000 cubic meters. And
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decommissioning of existing wells
involved which would that's not to

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happen until the system is in place and
the phasing that's completed. So you

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know you want to have a working system
before you disconnect the people and

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their wells.
Option two is very very similar to

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option one. However, it would be basic
decommissioning of the little water

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treatment plant and the construction of
a little pumping station and new intake

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at a another location. Now, obviously,
we don't know that location, but it

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would obviously have to be down down by
the um harbor or in the in the area

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around it, but um I know we are limited
by the existing bream plant location

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with sizing and space. So this is it's a
very similar option to option one. It's

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just a new location for a low lift
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So similar
um locations for the water the water

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treatment plant could be at those two
locations we discussed on Legion and

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B. But then there's potential for other
areas as well.

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Next slide please.

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We looked at high level project costing
and phasing and opinion of costing for

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the current year.
So part A would be facilities under

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option one would be
water treating plant work at the low

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life station to convert it to sorry work
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become a low life station the water
tower etc. Um so and we've given an

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indication of approximately the timing
would be to develop that by 2031 it

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would be a schedule CA and as
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approximately 41 million.
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be constructed at a later time frame. We
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uh as realistic costing as we can at
this point for rock. It can be a very

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large cost for installing new water man.
There are abilities to create the

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trenches smaller and um group like
infrastructure as well but you don't

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want to have water mane and sewer too
close together. So there are some um

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separation requirements that the
ministry of environment usually

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requires. So typically the water main um
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permits and things. So it generally is
exempt from EAS but that would have to

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be investigated further just to make
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And the intakes part C would be intakes.
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and that would require a schedule C EA
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for the water pump water option number
two. very similar costs for the

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facilities. Obviously with the water
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intakes would be more expensive because
we're looking at a uh a development of a

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new station on another property and then
a new intake would be required and to

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Next, very similar mapping to the water
showcase showcasing the same developed

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areas and and non-developed areas. And
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to show the existing waste water
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further to the further to the south. So
this one would include new waste water

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treating plant or upgrades to the
existing weight water treating plant,

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potential new sanitary pumping stations
and force mains and upgrades to the

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existing pumping station of force main.

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Option one, very similar area to
the water expansion of the existing

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waste water treatment plant with
increased capacity, new and or updated

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sewage pumping stations and force mains.
So again, we show the existing pump

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station on there showing a potential new
pump station. It is not in any specific

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area. It's just showcased on the
diagram. Um [clears throat]

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the location of that would depend on the
best place for connecting in gravity

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sewers and the need. So that would be
investigated under a future EA.

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Obviously the water the wastewater
system is larger than the current water

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system. So the the amount of new gravity
sewers is less about approximately 40 km

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or 4 km with new um sorry I shouldn't
say fire. It should just say new

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manholes. Apologize for that. New
sanitary service connections and then

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decommissioning of existing septic
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Option two is is very similar to option
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though it would be decommissioning of
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construction of a new waish butter
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So logically it would be best to
probably have it in the vicinity of the

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existing system with land availability
but it could but in the EA then in the

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future EA it could come out that it it
um could be in another location and

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subsequent pump stations required as
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So again same similar approximate news
gravity sewers same m numbering dan

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holes similar sanitary service collect
connections and decommissioning of

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existing septic systems.
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So this option facilities for upgrading
the existing wastewater treatment plant.

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similar timelines. You know, you start
to work on the um the treatment system

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first, which will require a schedule C
EA for the waste water treatment plant

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and a schedule B EA for the pumping
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Gravity sewer,
similar area to the water, but with less

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costs because there's there's less
gravity sewer to put in to connect um

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the existing homes.
And then the force main will be

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basically looking at new force mains
involved with the pumping stations or

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expansion and increase in size of the
existing force main to the existing

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wastewater treatment plant. So with the
development of pump stations and that

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you and forest man you'd have to have a
schedule BA as well.

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Wire option two again is very similar to
option one except it's a new facility.

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So the facility cost has increased
to approximately 35 million.

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The gravity super reinforce main would
be approximately the same assuming that

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it's very much in the sim same vicinity
of the existing wastewater treatment

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plant.

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Next page please.

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I'll go to Lion's Head. So the preferred
solution there was to expand water to

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service new growth in Lions Head and
provide fire flow. And this would

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include upgrades to the existing water
sheeting plant and adequate

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[clears throat] storage to provide for
fire flow capacity.

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So again, this drawing is just kind of
showing the existing water main layout,

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some um plan development areas
as well as some of the um

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land types.
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So lines head water option one
on the mapping you can see that we've

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expanded it to more street and included
that within the boundary. I know it's

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not uh necessarily within what has
typically been considered lines but uh

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we were we were asked to include that
area and then do an analysis there. So

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we've included the homes up that stretch
up the up the hill there.

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So with this system again as discussed
we would be upgrading the current water

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treatment plant and low lift pumping
with increased capacity including air

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flow. Uh in [clears throat] this option
we've considered that the intake would

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likely be appropriate at the size it is.
So we haven't included costing for

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increasing the size of the intake
location etc.

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As the system in line is is established
already, there would be quite a bit less

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um new distribution water main required
approximately 2 km with similar um

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appropriate appropriate hydro fire
hydrant locations, new water services

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and um a larger
um as you can see there the water

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storage is is higher than to based on
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types. So depending on the building
types in the communities, it raises the

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the fireflow requirements. So, and the
volume required to to fight fires.

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So, in this option, we'd be looking at
potential water tower or water in ground

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water at the existing water treatment
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Next page, please.

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Option two, it's very similar to option
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water treat plant, but the new storage
would be on a separate property. So in

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the diagram we've just indicated an area
of town that is at a higher elevation.

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It's not a it's not a you know
necessarily a location that would be the

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final location. It's just to give
representation of a having a a water

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tower on a separate lot.
So some advantages to having a water

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turn on a separate area is um you know
it can increase hydraulic performance,

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reduce redundant pumping requirements.
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[snorts]
though it could be a little bit more

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expensive just because of land
acquisition etc. But as always your your

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best option is just to try and find
property where you can get the the best

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elevation to um the pressures you need
etc.

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we've given some of costing and years
required very similar to toi. So

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obviously the the facilities costing
would be less since we have established

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system. The water main requirements
would be less than totem and the

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upgrades for low pumping and intakes
would be would be less cost as well. So

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very similar class E requirements and
scheduling.

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Option two, very similar. Again,
the facilities cost is a is a little bit

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higher just because of the um the water
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dedicated pumping to the water tower off
site. So meaning it is not pumping

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through the distribution system to fill
the tower. it has a dedicated line to

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the tower. So, we've just allowed a bit
extra cough in there in case that is a a

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route that the EA's uh recommended
future.

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Very similar for part C for intakes,
assuming that we would not be actually

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increasing the size or location intake,
just modifications to the existing

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facility.

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Next one preferred solution lion head
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So the proposed solution came to look at
providing a wastewater dedicated

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wastewater facility and servicing a
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including pump stations and forcements.
Next slide please.

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So this option one's a new waste water
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pumping system etc for the community.
The location of the pump station and

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waste water treatment plant. we've
contained within the the boundary of the

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community. However, again, these are
just reference locations to provide

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substantiation to produce costing
estimates and they're, you know, the

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best locations, etc. And studies will
come out in future EAS. [gasps]

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So approximately 8 km of new gravity
sewer to service the community and the

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surface zone that we've indicated
new and sanitary service connections and

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decommissioning the existing septic
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So mindset option two is very similar to
one except we've showcased a potential

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wastewater treatment plant outside the
community with a larger force man

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and this option is more aligned with
demand growth meaning that you would

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start
smaller with the pump station with the

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wastewater treatment plant and build up
more as time goes on instead of spending

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more money up front for a larger system.
Um [clears throat]

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have some more notes here. Just a
second. So yeah, it it involves more of

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a phased approach. Even though they're
all a phased approach, this is a very

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this is a much more um substantiated
phased approach. Um less land may be

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required at the beginning just to
service in the phasing.

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Additional phases would be you would
upgrade the plant basically as you add

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more onto the the community up to up to
the final 20 year. Um, one thing as well

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is it it considers more of a a lagoon
type system very similar to to where

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option one closer to the community,
closer to the lake hiron. Um, we've

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allowed for more cost in there for a
mechanical plant. Um,

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[snorts and clears throat]
just due to the proximity etc. So

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there's, as you'll see in the next page,
the costing is higher for the facilities

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for option one.
Next page, please.

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So again, there's a there's a very large
facilities cost to develop under option

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one with EAS involved, etc. The gravity
sewer is obviously higher than than

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[clears throat] the water main because
we're we're basically on a a brand new

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system. And then the force main is uh in
town, so it's less cost than option two.

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water option too. As I said with
facility cost would be less money at

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first because you're developing
[laughter] at a um

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a small area to start. You're not I'm
not we're not considering a mechanical

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plant for that option. Um but however
there is a larger force man component if

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you wanted to extend it outside of the
community very much like to

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um if you go to the EA uh sorry the
master plans we've provided there's

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there's more detailed review on the
costing in there as well in in the

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appendices. So I tried to to keep this
as straightforward as possible but if

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you have questions etc there there is
more details in the uh the master plans.

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Next page please.

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So next steps would be address remaining
comments from municipal staff council

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and aqua make any adjustments edits etc
to the draft master plans. We would then

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issue the final public notice called the
notice of master plan for each master

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plan completion. It would be circulated
to the local indigenous communities

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stakeholders um agencies [clears throat]
via email.

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It should be posted in the local
newspapers and on the project website as

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well.
Um [clears throat]

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there is an opportunity to update the
frequently asked questions component of

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the admissible website where we can take
some of the comments we've received and

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provide other responses within that
specifically just to give the the public

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uh you know address any more concerns
they have.

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Item three then the master plans would
be posted for public comment on the

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municipal project website. So the
physical final documents would be

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available for public review and then you
could you would probably have a printed

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out copy here as well for people to
review in office here.

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Once that um review period ends
and um you know if there's major

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concerns we we have to uh you know
people can put in the comments but

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basically once that's done we finalize
the master plans and then the final

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council approval of the master plans
would would occur after that.

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so again

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the cost is um substantial as you can
see for for any option. Um

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[clears throat]
you know the the master plans do give a

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a bit of a detailed phased approach to
to completion of the work generally in

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the near term which would be completing
the EAS identifying the preferred

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solution
uh more advanced including treatment

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recommendations etc. You would look at
property property acquisitions as

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required. Um [snorts and clears throat]
you would initiate the start of the

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buildout of the plants and the
infrastructure to service homes.

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And then you get into the midterm where
you know the facilities you look at

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again seeing as facilities need
expansion you expand to further out into

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communities and then by the time you get
to the end of the the period then you're

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you've developed your full full system.
So um obviously recommendations is the

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master plan's a living document too.
It's not something you just sit you know

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you you review it you you know there's
suggestions in the closure section of

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the master plans you know to to monitor
your growth in the community and

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developments and and adjust as required
um to meet the community needs. Um

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for for funding of course you know the
recommendation would be to look for

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grants and funding opportunities that
the government's put out federal

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provincial uh to help support it and um
as we've learned from the last one uh we

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submitted like having shovel ready um
properties definitely helps with grant

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funding. So um and having all your ducks
in order like having your EAS done etc

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[clears throat] really helps to get the
funding and and have more success rate.

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So
um there's any other questions I will

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hand it over. Thank you very much. Thank
you Chris. one you know

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questions. Um
just on the one I guess you you talk

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about grants and of course we we do too.
What do you see coming through mainly

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for percentages in in grants?

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I'm not familiar with too many at the
moment, but uh generally I think the

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last one we tried was
33% funding roughly

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funding.
>> Yeah. Up to a certain value and then you

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have time restrictions and biggest
things are well the cost is obviously a

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very big concern but
>> restrictions on getting the work done as

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well. Right. I think
>> the last one we went after, you know, we

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had about 2 years to have the
infrastructure built. So those are those

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are things you have to be mindful of
>> and

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the detailed master plans are quite
extensive

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and and there's around 600 pages
involved and maybe it's embedded

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somewhere in that report but
>> majority there's a lot of appendices. So

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yes, there's copies of emails that takes
up probably half half of the report.

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Okay. Climate change memos in there,
which is many pages. So main body of the

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report is probably 60 pages of all that.
It's just all the attachments and

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background.
>> I'm wondering, do you look at the

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connections that we have, the hookups we
have, and associate a cost with a

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hookup? Like is that in there?
>> The cost of um individual services to

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property lines is included in the cost.
So when we get say

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$60 million bigger and you get a 30%
grant, so it's still 40 million.

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» Yes.
>> And so we But so with you, we mean we're

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looking at our hookups are like when the
tree in line said maybe in water 350,

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maybe 325 350.
>> And so you charge

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» Sorry.
>> Sorry. What was the 350? Sorry. the the

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number of present hookups that we have
in lights

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» and [clears throat] I'm just wondering
just based on even the the expanded

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growth
[clears throat] and include that in the

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number of hookups what would we be
looking at per hookup

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it could just to give us some idea say
we do get a like a 30% grant 33% grant

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is is that in there or so I think
general Generally we included um between

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5 to 6,000 for the physical pipe
installation from say the water man to

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the crocket line um but
there are costs with rock removal etc.

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So we've elevated that cost to almost
double basically to account for rock

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removal and other things and we assumed
a trench width right to try and reduce

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the cost to because of rock
because typically you would if you um

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add it in you'd have wider area you'd
slope down and then you'd have your

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water man in a kind of a box where we've
looked at more of a a vertical

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installation to reduce costs.
So we don't have we don't have um

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obviously
etc through the committee. That's that's

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a an endeavor in itself. So we've
assumed higher higher risk and higher

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more conservative costs just to show you
that it is [clears throat] a a large

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endeavor. So there are more details in
in the um master plans but if you if you

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feel you need more breakdowns we can
provide that information as well.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Good. Thank you.
Uh what

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you just so we're um you're talking
having your ducks in a row.

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If we had property, you're suggesting
that it'd be a good idea to have EAS

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done on those sort of in preparation or
or

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um I'm thinking particularly at Gilmore
where we do have some properties. Would

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it be beneficial to do sort of
preemptive EAS or Well, you you'd have

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to do the EAS. Yes. Um you can you don't
have to do a separate EA for each

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property. You can combine it into an
overall sale water EA looking at various

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properties, land acquisition as needed,
and then the best routting for systems,

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the best treatment types, etc. intake
location. So, it's all it's all under

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one project. um you don't have to
separate it per site

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but you know but there are studies that
are required [clears throat] in that um

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you could do your your bore hole
investigations you could do um

434
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you know the cost analysis depending on
where the best place to put the water

435
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:09,400
tower is you know so there's um there's
lots of studies that go into the EA

436
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,400
they're quite detailed so

437
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:17,760
so you could spend a lot of money I
think get to and not be able to afford

438
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:21,920
the capital project I guess is it would
risk anybody go into more detail on

439
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:26,720
phasing and how to establish it over
time um recommendations

440
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,520
um [clears throat] you know you don't
have to necessarily

441
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:34,880
do exactly everything in the master plan
the will go into them more detail and

442
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:40,960
and and
sus out the best the best solution.

443
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:45,040
I know master plans are kind of a
support you and your expansion of the

444
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:49,440
systems in the future and it's a broad
perspective but you have to get into the

445
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:55,359
more detailed EAS to to come up with
your your your best solution um for

446
00:37:53,119 --> 00:38:00,960
treatment cost everything supporting the
community constructibility

447
00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:04,640
so that's
>> well I was just thinking it doesn't seem

448
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:08,400
like that long ago when we did the
expansion to the Lion's Head water

449
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:16,400
treatment plant and we were telling
everybody this is going to be it for

450
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:21,599
because yeah it was quite a quite a blow
but I I got to ask a couple of questions

451
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:27,760
about these maps just so I I mean
there's lots here I don't understand

452
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:35,040
even though I'm old um the one on Okay,
so we take a look at the master plan for

453
00:38:31,359 --> 00:38:40,000
my u and I mean obviously the key to any
of this is trying to predict or

454
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:43,920
predicting or looking at where
development is going to go in these

455
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:49,040
communities.
So if we take a look at page eight

456
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:54,560
um
preferred alternative expand water

457
00:38:51,359 --> 00:39:03,040
servicing to downtown and community area
uh area I mean um to my at this point

458
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:09,920
does not have water. Um, in this map we
have uh the red slashes

459
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:16,400
are future development. Now I'm
wondering where where that I want where

460
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:22,320
that comes from where that information
is that people that have already put in

461
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:27,280
applications or uh because of our
planning documents or exactly where

462
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:32,240
those red lines come from.
>> Yes. So, so yes, the that information

463
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:37,359
came through dealing with planning with
municipality. So, there are

464
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:40,640
» so with that, so our municipal staff
pretty much told you where that that

465
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:47,839
would be
>> and and there's more detailed versions

466
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:52,079
of these as well. Um I kind of showcase
um breakdowns within those areas. So

467
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:57,599
those have so for example the wedge
shaped one on the top left it is

468
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,040
um there's more breakdown information
within that and same with the large

469
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:06,800
square area on the bottom right
>> so it does not necessarily have anything

470
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:10,880
like to do with our I guess it does have
to do with our planning documents but

471
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:14,079
that information was given to you by our
staff.

472
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:17,839
» Yes. And then when we went after the
there was quite a bit more details when

473
00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:23,760
we went after the last funding the
Hughes application a couple years ago

474
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:26,079
um where we even showcased the kind of
the order that they would be developed

475
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,920
in. So the
>> so if I wanted to know the pro you know

476
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:36,880
the rationale or whatever then it's
either in the index or the municipal

477
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:42,480
staff reports. Okay. Uh so then uh same
thing when we switch to the master plan

478
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:48,320
for Lion's Head on page 16
uh the dark areas that are planned

479
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:54,880
development. So what is the dis
difference between future development

480
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:58,880
that I guess and plan development
because there's quite a lot of areas

481
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:06,560
here in the gray
uh that in the small uh hashtags plan

482
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:11,359
development. So where did where did that
information come from? Uh again

483
00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:15,680
» similar
this the mapping and the color coding

484
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,400
etc was from documents provided by the
municipality. So

485
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:27,920
as accurate as we understand it it is
but uh

486
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:32,000
there is the opportunity to review it in
more detail as needed.

487
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:37,599
» Okay. because uh yeah, I I understand
we're very preliminary here. These we'll

488
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:42,280
certainly have some feedback from from
some of this for sure. Okay, thank you.

489
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,880
» So,

490
00:41:53,040 --> 00:42:01,440
I know the bottom or this and I'm just
looking at lion's head which is not the

491
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:06,480
same. I know that the town area and the
urban area proposed for Totore is large,

492
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:14,079
very large,
but not so much so in Lion's Head. And

493
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:20,079
that sort of lays out to me the
boundaries of Lion. That's the town

494
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:25,119
boundaries of Lion's Head.
And [clears throat] so that

495
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,000
that section of his properties within
the

496
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:32,560
» Yes.
>> within the town. and and um and a mid

497
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:35,040
master plan we we did add in the more
street area as well. Um

498
00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:39,599
» yeah,
>> discussion with the miss. So it it's

499
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:44,760
expanded quite a bit out to the the east
there along the shore and

500
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:54,560
from my own benefit. So out big tub road
and maybe

501
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:59,040
more people more you can tell me but
there there is something in that out

502
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:01,520
behind there on big tub road like there
are like

503
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:07,280
» there are lots
>> there are lots in there so that

504
00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:11,920
yeah and [clears throat]
I guess

505
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:16,880
on the other side here there has been
some interest shown in

506
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:23,000
in development there
so and I'm looking east of Highway 6.

507
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:29,520
» These diagrams don't necessarily show
all the individual property lots per se.

508
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,480
It uh
I mean we could we could provide that

509
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:37,000
level of detail as needed if you want to
see that in the master plan but uh

510
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:43,599
we went into much more detail with Mory
since we were going after the funding.

511
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:48,640
So we were very very specific.
So uh Chris just on the separate you

512
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:53,040
talked about separation distance. I
wonder what is that separation distance

513
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:57,440
» for a water sewer?
>> Um well obviously when services into

514
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:01,920
homes you have to have you typically
want them separated for water and sewer.

515
00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:06,400
And the same thing when you're building
say a treated water main and a gravity

516
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:12,640
sewer. The ministry usually has a
separation of 2.5 horizontal meters.

517
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:18,079
um just help and then just helps with
potential contamination. So if your

518
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:23,119
water man goes below 20 PSI and say your
gravity sewers here, you could have some

519
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:26,960
potential contamination entering water
main. So they're just trying to protect

520
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:31,440
that with rock installation. You know,
that's a rock remove, I should say.

521
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:36,160
That's a lot of money to to have a
trench that large. So there is so there

522
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:40,400
is some potential to request
confirmation from the the ministry to

523
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:44,079
I've had to do another job as well where
we were able to shrink that distance as

524
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,079
long as
um

525
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:53,599
you know your water man's higher than
your sewer. So we had to had to maintain

526
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:57,200
that. So instead of vice versa you know
if you had your sewer higher then

527
00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:04,319
leakage from a sewer could come down
into the water man. So opportunities to

528
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:10,400
to um get them closer. You just have to
careful and and design them correctly.

529
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:14,599
» No, just told Andy the rock they got the
situation there. So it

530
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:23,119
you basically need trenches, I guess.
>> I know some with other water man

531
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:27,920
replacement jobs are in rock. We try and
um if we can install a new water man in

532
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:32,160
the same location. So you put up a
temporary system above ground, remove

533
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:36,480
the water man and reinstall the new
water man at a larger size within that

534
00:45:34,319 --> 00:45:41,440
same existing trench assuming it was
installed properly originally.

535
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,880
» The other thing too, you talk about
upgrades to the water treatment plant in

536
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:50,400
Lion's head.
>> So that water treatment plant is not

537
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:54,880
operating at near capacity.
So what would the upgrades be to the

538
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:59,680
system? Uh
>> what would be

539
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,680
main things would be fireflow.
>> Okay.

540
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:06,880
» Um [clears throat]
so you'd have to have larger pumps.

541
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:15,520
» Okay. Um you know you potentially need a
larger space to in um generally it would

542
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:19,839
be just from a capacity perspective as
well. You may need more room to upgrade

543
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:25,599
the equipment as time goes by. And I do
realize yes, it's it's um not operating

544
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:30,160
at full capacity, but master plan kind
of goes through

545
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:36,640
the range of timelines for when you'd
have to look at expanding. So could

546
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:41,440
potentially connect some things on
at first, but then you'd have to upgrade

547
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:46,560
eventually if you want to keep anyway.
So yeah.

548
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:49,560
» All right. Thank you. Um, other
questions?

549
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:57,839
» Yeah, how about read through the master
plans if I know they just got them

550
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:02,640
recently, but um
more in depth look at those. Don't be

551
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:06,720
overwhelmed. The the main there's 300
400 pages of appendices. So, the main

552
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:11,680
body is probably 50 to 60 pages.
>> We can get through that. So,

553
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:17,040
» and uh field your questions to to Peggy
as well. And then we can if you have any

554
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:20,400
concerns we can we can look up them.
>> Well on behalf of council and staff uh

555
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,697
thank you very much for your
presentation.

556
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:26,717
You may hear more from us if not.
[laughter]

557
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:46,079
All right, we have one other delegation.
Joe Roach.

558
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:50,359
» Joe. Yeah,
>> right. Right there, Joe. Yeah.

559
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:07,160
» Was that mic on, Joe? Is a red Did you
turn it off, Chris? Yeah. Just press the

560
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:07,160
uh silver button there, Joe.

561
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:17,599
You're in business. Business. Okay. Um,
my name's Joe Roach. I was born in

562
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:23,920
Peterbor, Ontario.
Uh, and I had a successful

563
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,720
uh
career as a construction superintendent

564
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:37,040
building high-rise projects downtown
Toronto. I built my lakefront home here

565
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:43,920
in uh Little Pike Bay Estates in 1992.
And uh I just want to give you a little

566
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:50,400
history of uh of what happened there.
And uh I call it the Big Con.

567
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:56,160
Uh it was the last frontier for
Lakefront. Um

568
00:48:53,119 --> 00:49:02,880
um they were offering 2 acres lots of
damaged land uh ravaged by winds.

569
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:08,240
Infestation of the balsam tree choking
the native trees causing underbrush and

570
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:15,040
dangerous forest conditions for the last
125 years.

571
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:22,079
Um these are low elevation lots and uh
they had to they had to get them sold.

572
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:28,800
Um they were offering these lots back in
1985 for approximately $35 to $40,000.

573
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:34,319
They flocked from Kitchener and G and
List.

574
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:40,800
Um the municipality of North Bruce were
not proactive in solving problems of

575
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:46,640
bylaw. So you are the target.
Um they off they they said that the

576
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:54,400
cottages just had to be 50 feet back
instead of 100 to 300 ft depending upon

577
00:49:51,040 --> 00:50:00,960
lot elevation. I don't understand this
50 ft uh should be feet above sea level

578
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:06,319
and it should be a meter at least to the
underside of footing. They are also

579
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:14,079
doing stone underneath the footings.
It's not cold. It must be engineered. Uh

580
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:20,960
I I I I made my first uh myself known in
1992 when I came up and uh had a foot

581
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:25,040
and a half of stone all nicely spread
looking really nice. And I

582
00:50:22,859 --> 00:50:30,880
[clears throat] made the uh the
excavator take it all out. My footings

583
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:38,920
went on top of rock, not stone. Stone
water don't mix. Uh too much up and

584
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:38,920
down. No way. Um

585
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:46,559
all the boulevards were left in poor
shape, stumps, trees, rocks, etc.

586
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:52,640
There's absolutely no direction in
lakefront problems. High wind, high

587
00:50:48,960 --> 00:51:00,240
water does not include waves and sees.
Uh how about waves throwing rocks?

588
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:04,720
For God's sakes, leave your trees at the
front. It's the first line of defense

589
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:09,359
against wind or snow. These are things
that should be, you know, discussed with

590
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:14,160
the people coming up here that don't
know anything that actually they think

591
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:18,720
they know everything, but they don't.
And uh what about the cleanup?

592
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Absolutely nothing.
Um okay. Uh you know quite simply put

593
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:31,359
the force in and little pike bay estates
and Hobson Harbor these are the two

594
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:34,910
areas where I have uh properties don't
meet the safety standards set by the

595
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:38,720
Ontario
>> [clears throat]

596
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:44,880
» uh the province of Ontario they are
infested by dead trees under bluffs that

597
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:52,240
is that is dangerous to the public first
responders and emergency personnel. It's

598
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:58,000
so thick you can't get to or see. It'll
burn so hot you can't part it out. Um,

599
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:03,440
what about insects and rodents? These
are the the only thing that looks nice

600
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:10,240
is the driveway and the place where you
have your your your home. The rest of

601
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:18,160
the property is ignored. So, I mean,
like it's uh I've been there for over 30

602
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:24,400
years or 35 and uh nobody operates a
chainsaw. Nobody cleans up. Um the the

603
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:29,480
only person I've seen that was your
father and he got that from me.

604
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:38,319
And of course, Stan cleaned up and the
judge cleaned up and that's it. the

605
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Bradley, they uh did a half to ask job,
too. But anyway, um

606
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:51,280
okay, where are we here? Uh there's no
physical due diligence

607
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:56,480
from North Bruce. Why is nobody
addressing these problems? I mean, like,

608
00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:02,319
uh you got two problems. You have a
problem with the safety and you also got

609
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:07,359
a problem with fire. Now, I guarantee
you that

610
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:14,079
that don't look like that picture there,
Haw Road and Hobson Harbor. There's no

611
00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:21,676
way. It's uh I I just cringe every time
I see the the the underbrush. It's just

612
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:25,839
makes me ill. Um okay, here's what
[clears throat] happened. Okay, bylaw

613
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:30,400
refused to meet and this isn't the first
time I got the Department of Labor

614
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:35,440
involved. Then I got some attention.
bylaw was to bring the fire chief and we

615
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:40,720
had a meeting right on my front porch
unannounced. It was lucky I was home,

616
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:46,160
but I guess he shook him a bit. Items
discussed. We discussed a fire line. I

617
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:53,760
mean, uh, it's possible. I think it's
worth discussing. Um, absolutely

618
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:57,599
no due diligence at all. There's some
paperwork and stuff saying we're going

619
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:02,079
to do that and you should do that, but
nothing physical. I mean, if a fire

620
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:08,480
broke out, uh there's going to be a lot
of questions asked here. And we got our

621
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:15,920
pants down. There's um there's no way.
Uh you guys forecast severe wildfires.

622
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:21,040
Wow. I can guarantee you we're not cut
out for that. Um I'm not talking too

623
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:24,640
loud, am I?
>> You're okay.

624
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:30,000
» You're okay, Lord. Um
>> Okay, good. Um,

625
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:36,160
access for emergency personnel and first
responders through properties. That's a

626
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:41,440
must. I mean, people live there. It's
full of cottages, blood, all kinds of

627
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:47,200
stuff. Yeah. The the fire personnel has
to get through and so do first

628
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:52,559
responders. Um, people need to be
shocked.

629
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:59,040
The attitude of the land owners is uh an
attitude of ungrateful and indifferent.

630
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:06,800
You get this is our land and we can do
what we want. Uh you can't make me.

631
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:12,480
These are the obstacles we have. I don't
know. Uh I in a construction project

632
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:18,400
when I things didn't go my way safety. I
shut her down. The crane stopped moving.

633
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:22,640
I shut the power off. hauled in
Department of Labor. Let's solve the

634
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:26,960
damn problem.
Hell, if I if an accident falls in one

635
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:34,559
of my job sites, man, they're going to
hang me.

636
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:42,720
Anyway, uh red tag properties.
These are also discussed. Um

637
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:48,640
by law actually said that we wouldn't be
the first uh to be looked after. So that

638
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:53,680
led me to believe that our community is
not the only one that has a problem.

639
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:59,880
Frankly, I'm having trouble with the
careless handling of this issue and the

640
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:59,880
way it's been handled.

641
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Whoops. Sorry. Um

642
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,720
to

643
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:19,960
lost a piece of paper. Okay. Bang. Bang.
Okay. Um,

644
00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:29,200
here's what I suggest. All V, all the
boulevards in our be cut back. All the

645
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:33,280
trees removed. Cut back to the actual
property line. You take a measurement

646
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:37,040
from the center line and measure. You
don't need to be exact. Who cares?

647
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:41,359
They're not going to care. But that's
got to be cleaned out. I mean, you have

648
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:46,000
to show due diligence, right? We need
safe access between the homes. You don't

649
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:50,160
have to uh they have all this underbrush
because uh they don't want to put a

650
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:55,440
fence or it's for privacy. No, you
can't. They have personnel going through

651
00:56:52,240 --> 00:57:02,400
falling trees, dead trees, underbrush.
That's just wrong. Um it's just been

652
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:08,799
poor leadership from the township on the
uh all these issues and the possible

653
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:15,599
fire line cut uh the borders
neighborhoods. I don't know what else to

654
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:20,640
do on on this thing. I I don't know. How
about

655
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:25,599
just being as this is a safety issue and
it's nothing is been handled. I'm

656
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:33,359
surprised that you don't have any
cleanup in this at all. This is claiming

657
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:38,480
action together and just absolutely no
clean up. There's no

658
00:57:36,319 --> 00:57:42,839
no pressure put on the homeowner to
either [ __ ] or get off the pot.

659
00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:50,799
I don't know. What do I have to do? Call
for the resignation of the CEO and the

660
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:56,400
bylaw officer? I I think they're
floating. Well, how do you give us a

661
00:57:53,839 --> 00:58:00,640
chance to let them respond to council,
Joe? So that we like we need to we need

662
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:03,839
to see what is what
>> Yeah. Okay, fine. I'm being a little

663
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:11,920
harsh, I guess, but uh
>> well well maybe not. Who knows? But we

664
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:14,880
um we just need to see what what kind of
answers you're getting.

665
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,760
» What do you mean answers?
>> Well, you you're suggesting there's a

666
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:24,960
whole lot there's quite a bit of stuff
go wrong in in your presentation here.

667
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:31,040
» Yes. So, I I'm just suggesting that we
the council or the staff inform counsel

668
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:37,280
uh responding to your concerns to see if
we agree with what they're what they're

669
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:39,359
telling us and you and so you want to
take this further. Is that what you're

670
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:45,119
suggesting?
>> I I I'm suggesting we want to see what's

671
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:48,960
going on. We want to we want a report to
outline our response [clears throat]

672
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,520
to your your questions.
>> Okay, fine. So, who's going to do a

673
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:57,040
report?
>> Uh, well, you're you bylaw is number

674
00:58:54,079 --> 00:59:01,760
one. You're you're suggesting bylaw.
>> Of course, there's nothing happening.

675
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:04,559
» Fire. We'll have our fire department.
Uh,

676
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,839
» absolutely. They're they're not uh well
equipped enough. I I know.

677
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:13,520
» Okay.
>> Like, you know, I when I hear words like

678
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:16,640
severe wildfires,
>> Yeah.

679
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:19,839
» that kind of bothers me.
>> We don't want them.

680
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:24,160
» No way. Y
>> and we have to be ready and we're not.

681
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,599
These forests drawing these communities
a mess.

682
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:31,680
» Yeah.
>> Give us a chance to respond, Joe.

683
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:35,040
» Yeah. Okay, fine. And we'll see where we
go from there.

684
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:40,720
» Okay. Item number two.
>> Uh yep. Uh yeah, go ahead. Uh you have

685
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:42,720
» I was just going to ask are these all
private properties?

686
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:48,160
» Yes.
>> Okay. Uh well,

687
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:56,559
» yeah, they're all private properties,
but I mean uh they're all like um

688
00:59:53,760 --> 01:00:02,559
in this little pipe states, there's a
lot of empty lots or developers,

689
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:07,599
you know, uh and the land in behind is a
a forest that's unmanaged.

690
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:15,599
Because I we have to kind of look at the
bigger picture too because we well we

691
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:24,720
have huge tracks of conservation lands
and federal lands that we really don't

692
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:33,839
have any control over and they have
different measures as far as how uh some

693
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:39,599
I personally have been wary of the fire
issue too with the amount of

694
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:46,480
conservation and federal lands where a
tree falls down, it just stays there.

695
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:54,720
So, uh, but what we'll need to know like
what's the difference between federal

696
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:58,079
and private lands as far as cleanup to
me because even though I've been

697
01:00:56,907 --> 01:01:04,160
[clears throat]
pounding a little bit about fire like

698
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:10,079
national parks, huge tracks of
conservation lands that aren't managed

699
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:15,599
for for fire uh and getting nowhere.
just so what the difference is with with

700
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:21,680
private lands. So I I was just curious
if these were all private lands. So I'll

701
01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:27,760
quit talking, let you get on to number
also too like in my area like it's not

702
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:33,680
the streets. It's all dead popular. Th
these are widow makers on private land

703
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:37,839
and if if there was a fire about uh in a
2acre property, you won't be able to see

704
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:44,559
it, but you have to go in there and
these trees will fall right on you or

705
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:49,520
you can't even get to it. Okay. Uh um I
don't know. You obviously you have to

706
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:55,599
get lawyers involved or maybe uh you
have to make them do it or uh or they

707
01:01:52,799 --> 01:02:01,119
have to hire someone. I I it's going to
cost him a lot of money, I would think.

708
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:06,559
And um but I don't know. I did it. Uh I
do a little bit at a time and I know

709
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:12,000
your dad did it and uh that's the way
all the lot should look and uh it's it's

710
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:18,160
an issue now because of climate change
and uh uh all we need is a is a little

711
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:24,400
drought and it could be next month or
sometime in September or next year, but

712
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:29,520
we're going to get it. And uh uh all it
takes is a lightning strike south of me

713
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:36,480
along the edge and there goes my house
because it's just a mess of trees in

714
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:39,040
between the properties you can't get to
I

715
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:43,520
» Okay, that good enough.
>> That's good enough, too. Yeah, that's

716
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,040
that
number two.

717
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:50,559
» Sure.
>> All right. Okay. Uh and this new guy

718
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:54,720
moved in next door to me, just north of
me. And uh Joe, what is the what is item

719
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:59,280
number two? Just to
>> Well, it's just that just he put the

720
01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:02,799
wrong uh the roadway in the wrong side.
It's on the wrong side of the lot.

721
01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:09,280
» Oh, okay.
>> I I don't know how you can prove prove a

722
01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:14,400
a roadway without seeing a park.
>> Okay. He got a nice little uh wind

723
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:19,520
tunnel. That's just unbelievable. He's
opened up 80 ft in the front. 80 ft. He

724
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:25,520
put his driveway on the wrong side. So,
you got a nice nice wind tunnel there.

725
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:30,880
He uh he moves his house over 25 ft.
Angles it. So, I got a nice funnel

726
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:35,119
coming in. He's got a 12ft drift uh
coming up right on our border. He's

727
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:40,480
knocking my trees over. He's already
lost a lot of trees. He doesn't care.

728
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:45,599
He's a developer. He's got his house
perfectly on one side. All his services,

729
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:52,000
water, everything is over here. This
side, he wants to sever and build

730
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:54,240
another house. someday. That's his plan.
>> Okay. So, you want us to have a look at

731
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,880
that driveway?
>> I want you to please look at that

732
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:04,079
driveway and find out. I mean, this plot
plan is a secret thing. You can't get to

733
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:09,200
it unless you hire a lawyer. So, look at
the plot plan. I'd be interested to know

734
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:14,559
where he put the wall.
Yeah. On that plot plan because it's

735
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:19,760
over there stacked right behind the the
septic. Now, I bet you it's a dollar to

736
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:24,880
a donut. It's not 50 or 60 ft away, but
that's fine. Whatever. Maybe it is. I

737
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:29,760
didn't measure it. But, uh, he wants to
put another building there someday. I

738
01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:34,240
know it. All right. Okay. I want a
fence. I want him to lay out the

739
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:39,280
property. Uh, property line. I need a
fence. Uh, uh. Um, there's one other

740
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:44,480
issue
he's got to do. He's got to

741
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,079
» Well, that's enough for now, Mayor. I'll
hear

742
01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:48,799
» that'll keep us busy.
>> Is [clears throat] that okay? Yeah.

743
01:04:47,839 --> 01:04:51,760
» Are you all right?
>> That's You did fine.

744
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:56,720
» Yeah. Thanks.
>> Yeah.

745
01:04:53,119 --> 01:05:00,720
» Um Okay. Um when will I find out some
kind of progress on this or

746
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:05,000
» uh I'll just look to our CEO here and
give us an idea of a timeline.

747
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:12,319
» So, as per council direction, we will
report back at the next council meeting.

748
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:14,720
» At that point, once council's received
it, we will send you a copy of that

749
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,559
report.
>> Okay. Super. So, it would be a good idea

750
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:22,400
to come next council me.
>> Uh,

751
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,599
we will get the report.
>> Yeah.

752
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:30,319
» And if you you can look at the report.
Uh, you would have to make another

753
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:34,319
delegation to council. Did you you
contacted the clerk? Right.

754
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:38,319
» I did.
>> Good. And if you [clears throat] you're

755
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:42,480
best to look at the report and see what
you think.

756
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:47,520
» So, then you when will I get the report?
Uh the report will is it August 13th our

757
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:51,920
next council?
>> August 10th is our next council meeting.

758
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:57,520
» Okay. So I'll have it by then. Right.
>> So you'll uh that it'll come out on the

759
01:05:55,119 --> 01:06:02,160
Thursday before August the 10th. So
whatever date that is that would be

760
01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:05,119
» to pick it up. Then I'll save the mail.
You can call me.

761
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:10,799
» Uh would you call me let me know and
I'll come and get it.

762
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:14,079
» Okay. Okay. I just want to stress that
uh when you get the Department of Labor

763
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:19,200
involved
uh I don't know uh due to due diligence

764
01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:21,920
is really handy.
>> Okay.

765
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:24,920
» Really handy. Okay. Thanks guys. Nice
show.

766
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,760
All right.

767
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:41,079
Go on to our agenda.

768
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:58,240
Well, considerations of a jog items and
uh first of all is the CIO reports.

769
01:06:56,079 --> 01:07:01,839
is that council direct staff to submit
an application to Bruce Power through

770
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:06,559
the regional municipal readiness
assessment fund for the following

771
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:14,839
studies. 12 water treatment expansion
review and the municipalities parks and

772
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,839
recreation master plan review

773
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,880
second that Smokey Todd.

774
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:27,280
So just a question and and so what do we
get beyond

775
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:34,400
I I in [clears throat] your report
outlines it but beyond what we already

776
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:39,440
know Peggy with the with the uh so the
presentation we had here today the

777
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:44,880
information that's in that report uh
what do we get that's

778
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:50,559
above and beyond that.
So this essentially is the next step on

779
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:56,960
sighting for a treatment center within
toll my as Chris has stated is that uh

780
01:07:54,319 --> 01:08:02,160
the next step is to do a sighting to
ensure that you know uh updated costs

781
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:07,599
are provided to council. Um so we would
look at those at the sections that

782
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:12,880
have been provided already to council
through the master plan and check out

783
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:17,759
their feasibilities for those areas. um
once they found a feasible area the next

784
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:25,199
step would be involved was providing for
the EA. So this is just a small step in

785
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:30,080
the process. However, uh providing a
grant does save the municipality some

786
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:34,640
costs and also keeps momentum up in this
project itself.

787
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:38,000
» Yeah. No, I think the uh I just wasn't
sure what that would give us beyond in

788
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:44,560
that one. I mean the recreation master
plan that's that's good. That's that

789
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:49,520
needs a bit an update. Okay. Any further
corre?

790
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:54,960
» So really we've got two asks here. Is it
weighted or we're just throwing them

791
01:08:51,600 --> 01:09:01,440
into the mix and hoping for the best or
>> uh I have had consultation uh with the

792
01:08:58,480 --> 01:09:10,080
Bruce C group and they believe that both
are good candidates for uh the funding.

793
01:09:05,440 --> 01:09:16,480
Hence we may receive um half for each or
but as stated before this does allow for

794
01:09:13,679 --> 01:09:21,799
us to continue momentum as a master plan
for sighting of the uh treatment center.

795
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:31,040
Other questions? Call the vote. All in
favor?

796
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:37,520
The motion's carried.
CEO uh report number two. Uh the council

797
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:42,480
receives report CAO26-09
as information regarding the acquisition

798
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:47,040
of lands airlines head for future
recreational and community

799
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:51,480
infrastructure opportunities.
Second for that one. Rod.

800
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,640
Any questions, comments?

801
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:04,920
Call the vote. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion is carried.

802
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:11,640
Uh item number item number CO

803
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:19,520
is that uh council approves the creation
of two permanent full-time waste

804
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:24,880
management operator positions subject to
completion of the required collective

805
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:29,440
agreement discussions with local 266.
and that staff be authorized to engage

806
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:34,159
with the local 266 regarding the
required amendments to the collective

807
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:38,480
agreement including classification and
wage placement [clears throat] and that

808
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:42,640
the following completion of the labor
relations process

809
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:47,560
staff be authorized to proceed with
recruitment and implementation of the

810
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,560
positions

811
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:57,199
along
any question regarding that

812
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:02,134
» right.
>> So this this could happen internally

813
01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:06,159
potentially but we're looking for in
[clears throat] blood. Right.

814
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:12,719
» Correct. So we would follow uh the
internal and external process for hiring

815
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:19,199
um for these two positions. Uh we have
already started discussions um with OPSU

816
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:24,480
and uh they are in agreement with the
job description. So the next step would

817
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:29,120
be amendments to the contract and uh
wage placement.

818
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:34,239
» Uh Smoky.
>> Um yeah, just so I get this clear in my

819
01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:39,120
head, we're looking for
two

820
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:45,199
more employees that will be full-time
that will strictly be on garbage.

821
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:50,320
That is correct.
>> Okay. Um,

822
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:54,960
it's just that in my, of course, I have
things going on in my head that no one

823
01:11:52,159 --> 01:12:00,159
knows. [laughter] But I mean, I guess
originally I kind of thought, okay,

824
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:05,440
we're doing our own garbage, which is so
uh we have so much more garbage in the

825
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:13,440
summer
uh than we do in the winter, and we uh

826
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:20,880
have so much more snow in the winter
than we do in the summer. So, is there

827
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:27,360
not some way to make this work for the
municipality? Like, perhaps we're going

828
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:35,280
to do that at any rate, but uh rather
than hire two more full-time employees,

829
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:39,679
um I'm just
just questioning that because I'm going

830
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:45,760
to be questioned about it. So, uh I
would like to know the rationale why. Uh

831
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:52,080
and and I suppose the
should we really just give this the

832
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:56,400
first year I I'm just questioning the
rationale behind that because I had

833
01:12:54,560 --> 01:13:01,440
thought perhaps you know we could make
this work within our staff or maybe how

834
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:07,679
many staff do we think we're going to
need to do our own service perhaps this

835
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:11,120
is reasonable be you know uh but I'd
like an explanation on it

836
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:22,239
The only way that we can explain this is
that um at each new term of council,

837
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:28,159
council provides a direction for the
role of service and corporates or

838
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:35,360
full-time staff. So our staff currently
right now are working full-time shifts

839
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:40,000
to provide for a new business unit
within the public works department.

840
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:44,480
council would have to advise of which
level of service that we would require

841
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:51,280
to cut to actually provide for that
collection service. So right now I we're

842
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:56,159
anticipating that it won't be be a one
day event of garbage collection similar

843
01:13:53,600 --> 01:14:03,280
to currently what is being held on
Mondays. Waste management brings up 7 to

844
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:09,199
eight trucks on a Monday to actually do
all of our collection. that will be

845
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:15,600
impossible for us to complete. So for us
to at least provide 4 days of 10-hour

846
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:21,440
shifts, that's 40 hours right there. Uh
potentially there are going to be days

847
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:26,239
that things might be very luxed, but we
still have to actually travel the entire

848
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:32,320
municipality to actually pick up each
garbage and visit each site. Hence why

849
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:38,320
we're so looking at a certain structured
day of it. If we could go to one staff,

850
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:44,239
that would be great. However, we do
require to have two staff to do the

851
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:49,120
service. We are also looking at a
potential for a casual part-timer in

852
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:56,000
case of sickness.
That right now will be

853
01:14:52,560 --> 01:15:00,480
uh provided by current staff members if
required. Unfortunately, right now we

854
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:06,880
are already on a full workload during
the day and to move two other staff into

855
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:11,840
a [snorts] another business unit would
require us to look at something a

856
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:17,760
reduction lie service for something
else.

857
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:24,880
Thank you for the explanation
and uh it's it's on recording so I will

858
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:32,320
any then I'm asked you know why we can't
make this work I will direct people to

859
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:38,640
your explanation. Thank you.
>> Yeah we also had a report last meeting

860
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:42,719
that outlined uh the whole
service that we're going to try and

861
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:49,360
provide in house. So that report is a
detailed report and it spells out why we

862
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:56,239
need two people and uh
yeah I I think it uh I think it warrants

863
01:15:54,560 --> 01:16:00,880
if we're going to provide our own
service and that's what we decided at

864
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:05,600
the last meeting that we were and we
need staff to do it. So

865
01:16:03,679 --> 01:16:11,679
yeah,
>> and also the just the curiosity that

866
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:16,960
these will be full-time. [snorts]
This will be the job description is that

867
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:24,159
this is what they do. We're not looking
at people that can go in between jobs,

868
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:28,719
do this or do the other work.
So that's clear as well that it's

869
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:33,760
strictly on the garbage. Okay. Thank
you.

870
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:38,800
All right. Uh, further questions,
comments,

871
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:43,760
call vote. All in favor?
Opposed? The motion's carried.

872
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:47,440
Uh, clerk's department is the joint
compliance audit committee and that

873
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:54,920
council direct staff to bring forward a
bylaw to appoint members to the first

874
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,920
county joint compliance audit committee.

875
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:03,440
and secretary for that one. Todd and
Rob.

876
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:10,080
Any questions on that one?
Call the vote. All in favor?

877
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:15,360
Opposed? The motion is carried. The
clerk's report again. Uh item B has a

878
01:17:14,179 --> 01:17:20,000
[clears throat] council direct staff to
bring forward a bylaw to delegate

879
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:23,000
authority to the CAO during a lane duck
period.

880
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:28,280
executive for that one. Smokey, I'm on.

881
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:35,193
Any questions on that one?
>> Call it Linda. [laughter]

882
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,920
» All right.

883
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:55,880
» All right. And lame duck it is. Call the
vote. All in favor?

884
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,880
Buried.

885
01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:03,679
Uh we're a treasury and that council
authorized the mayor clerk to enter into

886
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:08,560
agreement with uh our new doctor and I'm
not going to try and pronounce that

887
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:13,360
name. Peggy, do you we will just say we
are very delighted to have a new doctor

888
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:21,040
join the Peninsula Family Health Team.
line said and when they do

889
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:26,800
uh we we uh agree to enter into an
agreement with them.

890
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:29,800
So motion to bring that forward Todd and
Rod.

891
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:38,960
Any questions on that?
Call a vote. All in favor?

892
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:45,000
Opposed? The motion is carried.
Next we go to public works and that um

893
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:55,840
council approves the purchase of a new
2025 freight liner uh rear loading

894
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:59,400
refuge truck in the amount of 318,000
plus HST

895
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:13,040
on
any questions on that one. So, you were

896
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:18,400
able to get that one, Troy. Hey.
>> Mhm.

897
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:21,520
» Yes, we have a a hole on it right now
until the approval from council. So,

898
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:26,560
» okay.
>> We're very fortunate that uh there was

899
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:33,120
one one a new one available. So,
>> yeah. Um also uh before we can apply to

900
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:40,239
get our licensing to be able to do
collection uh through thee, we have to

901
01:19:36,159 --> 01:19:44,159
have [snorts] uh a truck in place to to
secure that licensing for to do the

902
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:48,920
collection. So this is kind of the first
step in getting our approvals to do it.

903
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,920
So

904
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:57,120
all right, any questions?
Call the vote. All in favor?

905
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,679
Opposed?
Motion is carried.

906
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:09,360
Item B, public works and that council
awards the winter sand tender to Hunter

907
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,760
College and Excavating Inc. for the
amount of $147,776

908
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,360
excluding HST.

909
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:28,880
Move by second by Ammon.
[clears throat] Any questions?

910
01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:33,760
Call the vote. All in favor? Oppos? The
motions carried.

911
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:41,440
Parks and facilities. The council
accepts the proposal from Triphase Group

912
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:47,679
in the amount of 66,955
plus HST for demolition and site

913
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:54,159
restoration of three Centennial Drive
inclusive of designated substance

914
01:20:50,800 --> 01:21:00,080
removal, backfill compaction and
securing preservation of on-site hydro,

915
01:20:57,199 --> 01:21:06,480
water and septic.
Move and second to relax.

916
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:13,520
Todd Rod
the uh substance removal.

917
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:19,920
Peggy, what? Ellen Clark, sorry. Uh yes,
through you, Mr. Mayor. Um

918
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:25,520
there was um the assessments done on
various municipal buildings. Um, this

919
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:30,400
building had a small amount of asbestous
containing material in the

920
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:33,120
» floor tiles of one of six bathrooms. So,
it's very small amount,

921
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:37,600
» but it [clears throat] still has to be
uh treated and disposed of according to

922
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,600
provincial regulations. So,
>> right.

923
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:52,400
» All right. Any further questions on
call the vote? All in favor?

924
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:52,400
Opposed? Motion is carried.

925
01:21:52,960 --> 01:22:00,480
Item B is uh build community strong fund
grant application

926
01:21:58,719 --> 01:22:04,080
and the council authorized staff to
submit a funding application to the

927
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:09,520
build community strong fund for the
replacement of the noted roof surfacing

928
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:14,560
HVAC
and refrigeration and the equipment and

929
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:20,239
equip and refrigeration equipment sorry
in the Lion Head Community Center and

930
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:26,760
Arena to be proposed in the 2027 7
capital budget

931
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:26,760
and second year on Smithy.

932
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:37,040
Mark, you want to give us a little
update on that?

933
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:42,480
» This is a good funding opportunity
specific to the um the refrigeration

934
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:46,480
system of the arena.
Um

935
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:52,159
and uh Simco Refrigeration who's doing
our capital improvements this summer is

936
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:57,679
helping us write the grant and uh
reinforce the grant. Uh there's no

937
01:22:54,880 --> 01:23:03,679
commitments there. Um doesn't cost us
anything for their assistance [snorts]

938
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:09,600
in the report and uh it does align with
our asset management, building condition

939
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:13,280
assessment reports and our capital
planning for next year.

940
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:19,679
» Okay, good. So these are all items that
are due in the next year or two for

941
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:24,360
replacement. So right.
All right. And any further questions?

942
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:37,120
All in favor?
Post. The motion is carried.

943
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:40,840
Item number C for facilities is Tromary
Community Center flooring.

944
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:48,800
That [clears throat] council waves the
purchasing policy section 5424

945
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:53,440
soul source supply of goods and or
services for the purchase order of

946
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:57,360
specialized flooring product. And the
council accepts a quotation from

947
01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:03,199
Advantage Sports
for the supply and installation of

948
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:08,639
target Omni Sport multiplex flooring to
the main hall of the Troy Community

949
01:24:05,199 --> 01:24:16,199
Center in the amount of 79,500
plus HSG for the specs of the quote a

950
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:16,199
July 20th 2026

951
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:23,360
for that one.
Do I not

952
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:29,840
Any
comments on that, Mark? Yes, Rob. Sorry.

953
01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:33,600
» Just a humorous humorous idea.
>> Okay.

954
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:37,840
» Maybe it's okay. Yeah.
>> So, this is actually the third floor we

955
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:43,120
had in there. The first floor they put
in. [clears throat] The guy that made it

956
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:48,320
was a good smoker and that wasn't trying
to get smokeable.

957
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:54,080
But he also had paper matches that he
flipped out on the floor and they tiled

958
01:24:50,800 --> 01:25:00,239
over top them.
So we went into

959
01:24:56,639 --> 01:25:02,719
the new floor and
they had to rip the whole thing out and

960
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:08,280
start all over.
>> Oh god.

961
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,280
» Don't smoke at work.

962
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:15,520
» Yeah. So this flooring
>> Yeah. So, [clears throat] the current

963
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:20,639
tile flooring is similar to the tile
flooring in in this room. Um,

964
01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:25,760
when you're there, if you've ever taken
a close look, uh, there's a fair bit of

965
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:29,760
bubbling occurring in some of the floor
tiles in various lines where we believe

966
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:35,520
the
the seams are in the concrete subfloor.

967
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:42,080
Um, it appears to be a moisture problem.
Not that the concrete is deteriorated,

968
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:47,920
but it caught the moisture problem. Uh
shows up kind of hard to explain why,

969
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:52,480
but it it does. Um and it can lift
separate the glue the adhesive from the

970
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:58,880
tile and it causes a bubbling of the
tile. Um our floor maintenance ends up

971
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:03,600
uh
grinding those tiles as they get raised.

972
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:08,560
We have a floor machine.
um and then they will eventually dry,

973
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:13,520
crack um and they become an uneven floor
hazard for users of the facility. So

974
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:18,400
what's there currently has been
repaired. Those seams have been repaired

975
01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:23,520
prior. Uh we have been monitoring the
floor. Um it's deteriorated a bit

976
01:26:20,639 --> 01:26:28,719
quicker than we had hoped this year,
this summer. um to the point that I have

977
01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:34,159
concerns that we should be looking at
replacing it now rather than waiting

978
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:39,920
until uh next year in the capital budget
process. October is our best month in

979
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:43,600
terms of downtime for redoing the
flooring in the hall and transition

980
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:49,280
between different user groups and pickle
ball. The other advantage to changing to

981
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:54,480
the changing the floor product surface
is uh the floor product that we're

982
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:58,159
recommending uh will come with painted
lines for the pickle ball courts. So

983
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:03,120
there won't be the masking tape
application

984
01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:07,520
uh that's uh laid and then removed each
time the floor has to be waxed and

985
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:12,400
stripped. So So there's some advantages
that way. And this product comes with an

986
01:27:09,679 --> 01:27:19,600
actual vapor barrier, moisture barrier
underlay, which would should prevent any

987
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:26,800
further future uh moisture issues to
whatever flooring we put down. So,

988
01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:32,080
will the floor just be a
white color or gray color with the lines

989
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:37,280
on it? I see some like planks and
>> Yeah. So, in the photos in the report,

990
01:27:34,639 --> 01:27:42,719
it shows the the most prominent color
pattern they use, which is a wood

991
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:48,719
pattern. It's a vinyl sheet roll, 6 ft
wide, so there'll be less seams, and the

992
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:53,840
seams are heat welded and glued uh to
the floor. Um, and they offer some

993
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:57,679
cushion resistance for sport playing.
So, we do have pickle ball that plays in

994
01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:01,520
there to be more friendly to their
joints.

995
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:05,120
Um, it's easier to maintain. It's
mopping and or we can still use the

996
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:10,320
floor machine. We just don't have to
strip and wax twice a year, which is a

997
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:17,320
multi-day endeavor twice a year and
about $1,000 in materials each year just

998
01:28:12,719 --> 01:28:17,320
maintaining the existing floor. So,

999
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:25,840
thank you. Any further questions? Call
the vote. All in favor?

1000
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:31,679
The motion's carried. Go to building
department A. Item A.

1001
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:37,920
The council approves the application for
an exemption from the T trailer bylaw in

1002
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:46,480
consideration of the unique circumstance
pre presented

1003
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:57,960
second for that. Uh Smokey Todd
I just don't quite get this one here. I

1004
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:57,960
» speak when my mic is not here but

1005
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:05,600
» that's right beside the U house that
burnt down

1006
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:09,840
and I guess the stench and the smell
from the what's left of the building

1007
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:15,199
» okay
>> is pretty overpowering. So these people

1008
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:20,480
have another lot they'd like to move the
trailer up there shortterm only until

1009
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:27,440
Okay. Yes.
Sounds good. All right. Any further

1010
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:31,800
questions? Call the vote. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion is carried.

1011
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:43,639
And we go to the item six on the agenda,
the minutes for the museum for June 9th,

1012
01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:43,639
2026.

1013
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,679
You want a motion to

1014
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:59,120
go item number seven correspondence
requiring council direction.

1015
01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:05,679
So there's the Rotary Club. We've had
the report there from them

1016
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:11,760
requesting a temporary patio license at
the Rotary Hall. So that's the new patio

1017
01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:18,080
that has been added to the Rotary Hall.
They would like support their license

1018
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:23,960
area during
summer basically.

1019
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,960
Yeah.

1020
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:29,800
Goodbye.
Second by Rod.

1021
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:38,360
Any questions?
Call the vote. All in favor? Post. The

1022
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,360
motion is carried.

1023
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:46,199
Um, Larry Huds, Larry Cousins, you're on
drive road access.

1024
01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:55,679
Uh, Troy, do you want to speak to a
little bit? I I mean, I guess I kind of

1025
01:30:52,320 --> 01:31:01,679
get, you know, I'm just
looking here at at your response, Troy,

1026
01:30:58,719 --> 01:31:07,840
and and just it says or continued on
page two. It says or continued

1027
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:11,760
availability of the route
and it's just

1028
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:19,080
and I'll let [clears throat] you just
have a look at that and this is probably

1029
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:19,080
some legal advice we got but

1030
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:28,080
» yes so this was a letter was in response
to the um letter that we uh

1031
01:31:26,639 --> 01:31:30,560
correspondence we received from the
interior landlords association.

1032
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,760
» Yeah.
>> Oh okay. Yes.

1033
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:37,840
» Yeah. So this was a letter that went to
back to them in response for their for

1034
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:44,800
council support you know that they have
used that access and I believe uh the

1035
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:51,840
Mr. Cousins I believe is one of the
owners on in that area and maybe was

1036
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:56,239
just maybe partly confused about what
the letter was was about is kind of my

1037
01:31:54,159 --> 01:32:01,360
understanding but
>> um because really there's no change in

1038
01:31:58,239 --> 01:32:06,560
anything that we've we've done. So,
>> okay, that dates back to that Ontario

1039
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:09,639
land request. Okay.
>> All right.

1040
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,000
Um,

1041
01:32:15,440 --> 01:32:20,840
so
I'm just, uh,

1042
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:28,320
so he responded though to your letter,
Troy, right? And here.

1043
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:35,679
» Yes, that is correct.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1044
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:41,600
And are we do we respond back to him or
>> we could respond we could respond back

1045
01:32:37,679 --> 01:32:44,000
to him with and uh clarify what his
Yeah, we could do that.

1046
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,760
» Sorry.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Good.

1047
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:52,719
» Yeah. There just seemed to be some
unease about the way our letter came out

1048
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:57,600
and that's just the legal ease that we
have to use. But I think he just

1049
01:32:55,520 --> 01:33:00,239
» you said it there. Nothing will change.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1050
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:04,800
We staff can do that.
>> Sounds good.

1051
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:08,040
Uh and in the uh the mystery of energy
and minds

1052
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:17,760
and uh
is there anything here that uh staff can

1053
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:24,120
mark or who who would look at this a
little bit to see if there's anything

1054
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:24,120
here that we can

1055
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:32,080
I'll just direct it back to staff to
have a look at it and there may there

1056
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,080
may be some opportunity

1057
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,840
extra little other business.

1058
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:48,239
Does anyone Yes, go ahead. Um yeah, I
just uh wanted to re um I asked a few

1059
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:57,440
weeks ago about the progress on the
senior's apartments in uh Tobber my

1060
01:33:52,880 --> 01:34:03,360
uh yes the residents on the west side
have been reinstated in uh but I've been

1061
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:08,400
questioned uh they haven't seen anybody
working there

1062
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:13,040
since that when
how will I

1063
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:21,280
uh when are they uh going to be allowing
the uh the residents in the east side of

1064
01:34:16,159 --> 01:34:25,880
the building uh to uh move back in? Do
you have any ideas on that or

1065
01:34:26,719 --> 01:34:36,719
we do not have a phone date? Um we do
expect them to be in however before

1066
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:41,840
Christmas. Um but we will direct your
questions to Bruce County. Yes, that's

1067
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:47,400
that's what I I I was hoping you'd say.
Thanks.

1068
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:47,400
» All right. Thank you, Shi. And

1069
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:53,600
» yeah, just uh so last council meeting
the uh the food bank uh do a

1070
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:58,159
presentation uh requesting some
assistance on finding a new location. Uh

1071
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:02,880
just wondering when we're going to look
at that report again. Just it sound like

1072
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:08,560
the request was kind of semi urgent or
some urgency to it.

1073
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:14,639
So staff have reviewed uh current
locations within our current municipal

1074
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:21,040
facilities. Unfortunately, we don't have
any spaces available at this time.

1075
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:26,800
However, as per the report um regarding
purchasing of uh property for recreation

1076
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:32,480
community purposes, I believe it might
be a good avenue for council to have

1077
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:36,040
that discussion of what the next steps
are with that property.

1078
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:47,679
just have a question regarding the
highspeed internet. I know people that

1079
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:51,920
live in South Bruce and they've actually
been hooked up to new services and it

1080
01:35:50,400 --> 01:36:00,480
just appears that there doesn't seem to
be much action going on in North Bruce.

1081
01:35:54,960 --> 01:36:05,280
I just was curious as to the status.
We'll have to get back to you on a

1082
01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:09,440
current updated status. We do have it on
our website, but I know they haven't

1083
01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:13,639
actually updated the draft currently
right now.

1084
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:13,639
» Thank you.

1085
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:22,480
» Anyone else have other business?
If not,

1086
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:26,719
we will move in to item 10 on the
agenda, which is closed session, and

1087
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:31,120
that council move in closed meeting with
the CEO and clerk in attendance pursuant

1088
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:35,840
to section 2392
of the municipal act 2001 as amendment

1089
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:40,320
for the following reasons.
Personnel matters about identifiable

1090
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:45,119
individual including municipal or local
board employees specifically related to

1091
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:52,960
a personnel update.
Thank you for a second for that. Do and

1092
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:52,960
smokey all favorite motion carated.