All
right. Good afternoon everyone. We will call our meeting to order
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thereof. And you can do that now or any time
during the agenda.
Approval of the agenda. Todd and Smokey. Any questions, comments on the agenda?
Call a vote. All in favor? Close. Motion is carried. [snorts]
Minutes of July 13th.
Rob and a woman.
Anything on the minutes?
Call the vote. All in favor? Opposed? The motion is carried.
Move right into delegations. Joe wrote forest safety and driveway
concerns. Joe,
is he online or >> no?
Okay, we [clears throat] will go to item B.
Chris Wilson, WSP, master plans for Topamorei and Lion's Head. And Chris is
here. Welcome, Chris.
the presentation and I'll just mention to change slides when uh we're done. So
yes, uh I'm Chris from WSP. Um we are the engineering consultant
involved with the master plans for to marine mines head working with the
Ontario clean water agency and the municipality of northern Bruce
Peninsula.
So uh go to the first overall slide. So this is just a general overview of the
project to date and and kind of the the history of uh starting point. So we
started this project back in 2022. um there was some gaps in between just
with um some first nation consultation and some
other aspects. So project has obviously extended into a few years later than me
but uh we're at the we're at the end right now. So um so yes we've developed
master plans for water and wastewater for both communities of lines head
looking into 2046 and beyond. important components of it are climate
change review social and economic impacts as well as current limitations
to growth in the two communities. So the master plan approach that we utilized
was approach number one and again a lot of this all this information is
documented in the master plans. Um so this was it's a very broad master
planning approach. Um the projects are identified but we don't go into the
schedule B schedule C details of the individual projects. they would have to
be completed under future EAS. Next page, please.
So again, this is just giving a kind of a overview of the morning water and
wastewater alternatives. They're very similar for both. They're both um
alternative one for water and wastewater is maintain existing level of service.
So that would be the smaller water system in Tobini
and the um the larger wastewater system obviously in town with existing other
existing homes on septics or on well supplies.
Two was expanding water servicing within the downtown core and general community
area around for both water and waste water and through the master plan
process those were developed to be the third solutions. very uh very similar
layouts for both. Um we'll have some mapping later on in the presentation
which can which can showcase the areas. Turn three, we don't have mapping in
here on that but that was generally caring for the downtown core and
community area but expanding further out into into the perimeter. So much more
area, much more homes included um greater cost etc to to service those uh
locations. Next page please.
So water alternatives obviously we have a established water system in Lion's
Head. So alternative one was maintain the existing level of service.
Alternative two was expand to service new growth or existing uh inel lots
within the community and provide sufficient um fireflow capacity.
That that would became that came out to be the um referred solution through the
master plan process. Alternative three again expands on
alternative two. So it includes the same area but also expanding to Ferndale
with Fireflow. And then alternative four is removing Ferndale
still expanding in Lions Head but also going to ismas Bay and Barrow Bay with
Fireflow as well. The wastewater alternatives, we
basically have two alternatives. Maintain a existing level of service
which is septic systems or alternative two is completion of a wastewater
treatment plant, wastewater servicing within the downtown lines head.
So alternative two through the process, you know, [clears throat] is a preferred
solution. It is one of the larger solutions because there is an
established wastewater um system in Lancet currently.
Next page please. So this page is giving a kind of a
project status to date. So we've completed a climate change memo for both
communities. A design basis report for both
communities evaluation matrices have been completed basically look at the
criteria and um categories and how we process the to come to the recommended
solutions for alternative I should say.
uh additions um letters have been provided to those communities for the
notice commencement the PIC and responses received similar for
stakeholders agencies government agencies etc and the public
um the notice of commencement was um provided on the municipal website and
the PIC's as well and responses have been received
public information center for each community was um completed last year in
the summertime in both communities Signin sheets were received, comments
were received um at the at the PIC's and also through emails and they've been
documented in the a general format within the appendices within the master
plans. So specific emails etc are not uh
necessarily provided but the comments are are generalized to um carry forward
the concerns and comments from the public.
» [snorts] >> Number eight, draft master plan's gone
through various revisions in the last um last year and uh we submitted the final
draft um late last week. So those are available um for further comment by the
municipality and Ontario Clean Water Agency um after this meeting.
Next page, please. This one's hard to see, but it just
gives a general process for the municipal environmental
assessment/master plans. So basically we're in phase
number two at the selection of the preferred solutions.
So then a notice of master plan would be completed instead of a mass a notice of
completion because it's not a EA per se from a schedule B or C perspective. So
then once that's complete then the master plan would be finalized and put
out for the review period for the public agencies etc. So all the agencies that
were involved would be contacted provided access to the reports for
comment period and same with the public they would be posted on the municipal
website for review and comment as well
please
to the preferred water and wastewater solutions for total rain lines head
we've looked at current and future growth considered up to the year 201
and again of the infrastructure solutions that are discussed. A phased
approach is obviously a very appropriate way to
provide these expansions etc to reduce current impacts to reduce impacts to
current water and wastewater services properties with existing wells and
septics and the overall community in general.
Page please. to move into the first solutions. So,
we're showing you a map of Tomori that we've considered for this option DS
DWS2. That's expand water servicing to the
downtown CR community area. Um the map shows somewhat existing
development and future development within the area with the red lines
showing future and these were carried forward from
» [clears throat] >> um discussions with municipality uh and
developers to include in the in in the area. So this option would include a new
centralized water treating plant with adequate water storage for fireflow
capacity. Next page please.
So again this this one um now we're looking at potential options within this
and again these options are not finite. They could be expanded under the future
EAS but we've generally provided two options for each um [clears throat]
water and wastewater alternatives for both communities. So, first we're
starting with token water option one, which we've looked at retrofitting the
existing little tub water treating plant to basically a low lift pumping station
and a [clears throat] new centralized water treating plant at a location
within the community. So, basically the the existing water treatment plant would
be converted to a pumping station which would then send water to a larger area
for a waste water for a water treating plant.
So, we've we've showcased on the map um two locations that we had looked at
during the um application process. We went for funding a few years ago and
they included a location at Brock and Legion. So, currently right now, those
are the two locations that we've considered. There's obviously potential
for other locations that would be investigated during the EAS.
um whether you know property has to be purchased or other locations that have
um higher elevations for support of a water tower etc. So under this option
there could be potentially requirement to extend deepen or lengthen the the
water intake depending on the capacity required.
The water treatment water treatment land would we be looking at providing proper
fire flow. There would be approximately 7 kilometers of new distribution water
main more fire hydrants within that water main and obviously the
disconnection of homes and put on water service from their from their personal
wells. The new water tower would be
approximately 2.5,000 cubic meters. And then obviously there would be
decommissioning of existing wells involved which would that's not to
happen until the system is in place and the phasing that's completed. So you
know you want to have a working system before you disconnect the people and
their wells. Option two is very very similar to
option one. However, it would be basic decommissioning of the little water
treatment plant and the construction of a little pumping station and new intake
at a another location. Now, obviously, we don't know that location, but it
would obviously have to be down down by the um harbor or in the in the area
around it, but um I know we are limited by the existing bream plant location
with sizing and space. So this is it's a very similar option to option one. It's
just a new location for a low lift pumping station.
So similar um locations for the water the water
treatment plant could be at those two locations we discussed on Legion and
B. But then there's potential for other areas as well.
Next slide please.
We looked at high level project costing and phasing and opinion of costing for
the current year. So part A would be facilities under
option one would be water treating plant work at the low
life station to convert it to sorry work at the existing water treat plant to
become a low life station the water tower etc. Um so and we've given an
indication of approximately the timing would be to develop that by 2031 it
would be a schedule CA and as [clears throat] a probable cost of
approximately 41 million. Part B the water man would obviously um
be constructed at a later time frame. We have included
uh as realistic costing as we can at this point for rock. It can be a very
large cost for installing new water man. There are abilities to create the
trenches smaller and um group like infrastructure as well but you don't
want to have water mane and sewer too close together. So there are some um
separation requirements that the ministry of environment usually
requires. So typically the water main um is covered under your your water um
permits and things. So it generally is exempt from EAS but that would have to
be investigated further just to make sure that schedule is correct.
And the intakes part C would be intakes. So that would be tied to the facilities
and that would require a schedule C EA as well
for the water pump water option number two. very similar costs for the
facilities. Obviously with the water main would be a similar area. The
intakes would be more expensive because we're looking at a uh a development of a
new station on another property and then a new intake would be required and to
receive um water.
Next, very similar mapping to the water showcase showcasing the same developed
areas and and non-developed areas. And then obviously we're we're expanding out
to show the existing waste water treatment land location in Forest Main
further to the further to the south. So this one would include new waste water
treating plant or upgrades to the existing weight water treating plant,
potential new sanitary pumping stations and force mains and upgrades to the
existing pumping station of force main.
Next page please.
Option one, very similar area to the water expansion of the existing
waste water treatment plant with increased capacity, new and or updated
sewage pumping stations and force mains. So again, we show the existing pump
station on there showing a potential new pump station. It is not in any specific
area. It's just showcased on the diagram. Um [clears throat]
the location of that would depend on the best place for connecting in gravity
sewers and the need. So that would be investigated under a future EA.
Obviously the water the wastewater system is larger than the current water
system. So the the amount of new gravity sewers is less about approximately 40 km
or 4 km with new um sorry I shouldn't say fire. It should just say new
manholes. Apologize for that. New sanitary service connections and then
decommissioning of existing septic systems.
Next page please.
Option two is is very similar to option one
though it would be decommissioning of the existing water treatment plant and
construction of a new waish butter treating plant with increased capacity.
So logically it would be best to probably have it in the vicinity of the
existing system with land availability but it could but in the EA then in the
future EA it could come out that it it um could be in another location and
subsequent pump stations required as well.
So again same similar approximate news gravity sewers same m numbering dan
holes similar sanitary service collect connections and decommissioning of
existing septic systems. Next page please.
So this option facilities for upgrading the existing wastewater treatment plant.
similar timelines. You know, you start to work on the um the treatment system
first, which will require a schedule C EA for the waste water treatment plant
and a schedule B EA for the pumping stations.
Gravity sewer, similar area to the water, but with less
costs because there's there's less gravity sewer to put in to connect um
the existing homes. And then the force main will be
basically looking at new force mains involved with the pumping stations or
expansion and increase in size of the existing force main to the existing
wastewater treatment plant. So with the development of pump stations and that
you and forest man you'd have to have a schedule BA as well.
Wire option two again is very similar to option one except it's a new facility.
So the facility cost has increased to approximately 35 million.
The gravity super reinforce main would be approximately the same assuming that
it's very much in the sim same vicinity of the existing wastewater treatment
plant.
Next page please.
I'll go to Lion's Head. So the preferred solution there was to expand water to
service new growth in Lions Head and provide fire flow. And this would
include upgrades to the existing water sheeting plant and adequate
[clears throat] storage to provide for fire flow capacity.
So again, this drawing is just kind of showing the existing water main layout,
some um plan development areas as well as some of the um
land types. Next page, please.
So lines head water option one on the mapping you can see that we've
expanded it to more street and included that within the boundary. I know it's
not uh necessarily within what has typically been considered lines but uh
we were we were asked to include that area and then do an analysis there. So
we've included the homes up that stretch up the up the hill there.
So with this system again as discussed we would be upgrading the current water
treatment plant and low lift pumping with increased capacity including air
flow. Uh in [clears throat] this option we've considered that the intake would
likely be appropriate at the size it is. So we haven't included costing for
increasing the size of the intake location etc.
As the system in line is is established already, there would be quite a bit less
um new distribution water main required approximately 2 km with similar um
appropriate appropriate hydro fire hydrant locations, new water services
and um a larger um as you can see there the water
storage is is higher than to based on fire flow requirements for building
types. So depending on the building types in the communities, it raises the
the fireflow requirements. So, and the volume required to to fight fires.
So, in this option, we'd be looking at potential water tower or water in ground
water at the existing water treatment plant location on the same property.
Next page, please.
Option two, it's very similar to option one in in regards to upgrading the the
water treat plant, but the new storage would be on a separate property. So in
the diagram we've just indicated an area of town that is at a higher elevation.
It's not a it's not a you know necessarily a location that would be the
final location. It's just to give representation of a having a a water
tower on a separate lot. So some advantages to having a water
turn on a separate area is um you know it can increase hydraulic performance,
reduce redundant pumping requirements. Um [groaning]
[snorts] though it could be a little bit more
expensive just because of land acquisition etc. But as always your your
best option is just to try and find property where you can get the the best
elevation to um the pressures you need etc.
Please
we've given some of costing and years required very similar to toi. So
obviously the the facilities costing would be less since we have established
system. The water main requirements would be less than totem and the
upgrades for low pumping and intakes would be would be less cost as well. So
very similar class E requirements and scheduling.
Option two, very similar. Again, the facilities cost is a is a little bit
higher just because of the um the water tower
dedicated pumping to the water tower off site. So meaning it is not pumping
through the distribution system to fill the tower. it has a dedicated line to
the tower. So, we've just allowed a bit extra cough in there in case that is a a
route that the EA's uh recommended future.
Very similar for part C for intakes, assuming that we would not be actually
increasing the size or location intake, just modifications to the existing
facility.
Next one preferred solution lion head wastewater.
So the proposed solution came to look at providing a wastewater dedicated
wastewater facility and servicing a lion's head
including pump stations and forcements. Next slide please.
So this option one's a new waste water treatment plant collection system
pumping system etc for the community. The location of the pump station and
waste water treatment plant. we've contained within the the boundary of the
community. However, again, these are just reference locations to provide
substantiation to produce costing estimates and they're, you know, the
best locations, etc. And studies will come out in future EAS. [gasps]
So approximately 8 km of new gravity sewer to service the community and the
surface zone that we've indicated new and sanitary service connections and
decommissioning the existing septic systems.
Next page piece.
So mindset option two is very similar to one except we've showcased a potential
wastewater treatment plant outside the community with a larger force man
and this option is more aligned with demand growth meaning that you would
start smaller with the pump station with the
wastewater treatment plant and build up more as time goes on instead of spending
more money up front for a larger system. Um [clears throat]
have some more notes here. Just a second. So yeah, it it involves more of
a phased approach. Even though they're all a phased approach, this is a very
this is a much more um substantiated phased approach. Um less land may be
required at the beginning just to service in the phasing.
Additional phases would be you would upgrade the plant basically as you add
more onto the the community up to up to the final 20 year. Um, one thing as well
is it it considers more of a a lagoon type system very similar to to where
option one closer to the community, closer to the lake hiron. Um, we've
allowed for more cost in there for a mechanical plant. Um,
[snorts and clears throat] just due to the proximity etc. So
there's, as you'll see in the next page, the costing is higher for the facilities
for option one. Next page, please.
So again, there's a there's a very large facilities cost to develop under option
one with EAS involved, etc. The gravity sewer is obviously higher than than
[clears throat] the water main because we're we're basically on a a brand new
system. And then the force main is uh in town, so it's less cost than option two.
water option too. As I said with facility cost would be less money at
first because you're developing [laughter] at a um
a small area to start. You're not I'm not we're not considering a mechanical
plant for that option. Um but however there is a larger force man component if
you wanted to extend it outside of the community very much like to
um if you go to the EA uh sorry the master plans we've provided there's
there's more detailed review on the costing in there as well in in the
appendices. So I tried to to keep this as straightforward as possible but if
you have questions etc there there is more details in the uh the master plans.
Next page please.
So next steps would be address remaining comments from municipal staff council
and aqua make any adjustments edits etc to the draft master plans. We would then
issue the final public notice called the notice of master plan for each master
plan completion. It would be circulated to the local indigenous communities
stakeholders um agencies [clears throat] via email.
It should be posted in the local newspapers and on the project website as
well. Um [clears throat]
there is an opportunity to update the frequently asked questions component of
the admissible website where we can take some of the comments we've received and
provide other responses within that specifically just to give the the public
uh you know address any more concerns they have.
Item three then the master plans would be posted for public comment on the
municipal project website. So the physical final documents would be
available for public review and then you could you would probably have a printed
out copy here as well for people to review in office here.
Once that um review period ends and um you know if there's major
concerns we we have to uh you know people can put in the comments but
basically once that's done we finalize the master plans and then the final
council approval of the master plans would would occur after that.
Um so again
the cost is um substantial as you can see for for any option. Um
[clears throat] you know the the master plans do give a
a bit of a detailed phased approach to to completion of the work generally in
the near term which would be completing the EAS identifying the preferred
solution uh more advanced including treatment
recommendations etc. You would look at property property acquisitions as
required. Um [snorts and clears throat] you would initiate the start of the
buildout of the plants and the infrastructure to service homes.
And then you get into the midterm where you know the facilities you look at
again seeing as facilities need expansion you expand to further out into
communities and then by the time you get to the end of the the period then you're
you've developed your full full system. So um obviously recommendations is the
master plan's a living document too. It's not something you just sit you know
you you review it you you know there's suggestions in the closure section of
the master plans you know to to monitor your growth in the community and
developments and and adjust as required um to meet the community needs. Um
for for funding of course you know the recommendation would be to look for
grants and funding opportunities that the government's put out federal
provincial uh to help support it and um as we've learned from the last one uh we
submitted like having shovel ready um properties definitely helps with grant
funding. So um and having all your ducks in order like having your EAS done etc
[clears throat] really helps to get the funding and and have more success rate.
So um there's any other questions I will
hand it over. Thank you very much. Thank you Chris. one you know
questions. Um just on the one I guess you you talk
about grants and of course we we do too. What do you see coming through mainly
for percentages in in grants?
I'm not familiar with too many at the moment, but uh generally I think the
last one we tried was 33% funding roughly
funding. >> Yeah. Up to a certain value and then you
have time restrictions and biggest things are well the cost is obviously a
very big concern but >> restrictions on getting the work done as
well. Right. I think >> the last one we went after, you know, we
had about 2 years to have the infrastructure built. So those are those
are things you have to be mindful of >> and
the detailed master plans are quite extensive
and and there's around 600 pages involved and maybe it's embedded
somewhere in that report but >> majority there's a lot of appendices. So
yes, there's copies of emails that takes up probably half half of the report.
Okay. Climate change memos in there, which is many pages. So main body of the
report is probably 60 pages of all that. It's just all the attachments and
background. >> I'm wondering, do you look at the
connections that we have, the hookups we have, and associate a cost with a
hookup? Like is that in there? >> The cost of um individual services to
property lines is included in the cost. So when we get say
$60 million bigger and you get a 30% grant, so it's still 40 million.
» Yes. >> And so we But so with you, we mean we're
looking at our hookups are like when the tree in line said maybe in water 350,
maybe 325 350. >> And so you charge
» Sorry. >> Sorry. What was the 350? Sorry. the the
number of present hookups that we have in lights
» and [clears throat] I'm just wondering just based on even the the expanded
growth [clears throat] and include that in the
number of hookups what would we be looking at per hookup
it could just to give us some idea say we do get a like a 30% grant 33% grant
is is that in there or so I think general Generally we included um between
5 to 6,000 for the physical pipe installation from say the water man to
the crocket line um but there are costs with rock removal etc.
So we've elevated that cost to almost double basically to account for rock
removal and other things and we assumed a trench width right to try and reduce
the cost to because of rock because typically you would if you um
add it in you'd have wider area you'd slope down and then you'd have your
water man in a kind of a box where we've looked at more of a a vertical
installation to reduce costs. So we don't have we don't have um
obviously etc through the committee. That's that's
a an endeavor in itself. So we've assumed higher higher risk and higher
more conservative costs just to show you that it is [clears throat] a a large
endeavor. So there are more details in in the um master plans but if you if you
feel you need more breakdowns we can provide that information as well.
» Yeah. Yeah. Good. Thank you. Uh what
you just so we're um you're talking having your ducks in a row.
If we had property, you're suggesting that it'd be a good idea to have EAS
done on those sort of in preparation or or
um I'm thinking particularly at Gilmore where we do have some properties. Would
it be beneficial to do sort of preemptive EAS or Well, you you'd have
to do the EAS. Yes. Um you can you don't have to do a separate EA for each
property. You can combine it into an overall sale water EA looking at various
properties, land acquisition as needed, and then the best routting for systems,
the best treatment types, etc. intake location. So, it's all it's all under
one project. um you don't have to separate it per site
but you know but there are studies that are required [clears throat] in that um
you could do your your bore hole investigations you could do um
you know the cost analysis depending on where the best place to put the water
tower is you know so there's um there's lots of studies that go into the EA
they're quite detailed so
so you could spend a lot of money I think get to and not be able to afford
the capital project I guess is it would risk anybody go into more detail on
phasing and how to establish it over time um recommendations
um [clears throat] you know you don't have to necessarily
do exactly everything in the master plan the will go into them more detail and
and and sus out the best the best solution.
I know master plans are kind of a support you and your expansion of the
systems in the future and it's a broad perspective but you have to get into the
more detailed EAS to to come up with your your your best solution um for
treatment cost everything supporting the community constructibility
so that's >> well I was just thinking it doesn't seem
like that long ago when we did the expansion to the Lion's Head water
treatment plant and we were telling everybody this is going to be it for
because yeah it was quite a quite a blow but I I got to ask a couple of questions
about these maps just so I I mean there's lots here I don't understand
even though I'm old um the one on Okay, so we take a look at the master plan for
my u and I mean obviously the key to any of this is trying to predict or
predicting or looking at where development is going to go in these
communities. So if we take a look at page eight
um preferred alternative expand water
servicing to downtown and community area uh area I mean um to my at this point
does not have water. Um, in this map we have uh the red slashes
are future development. Now I'm wondering where where that I want where
that comes from where that information is that people that have already put in
applications or uh because of our planning documents or exactly where
those red lines come from. >> Yes. So, so yes, the that information
came through dealing with planning with municipality. So, there are
» so with that, so our municipal staff pretty much told you where that that
would be >> and and there's more detailed versions
of these as well. Um I kind of showcase um breakdowns within those areas. So
those have so for example the wedge shaped one on the top left it is
um there's more breakdown information within that and same with the large
square area on the bottom right >> so it does not necessarily have anything
like to do with our I guess it does have to do with our planning documents but
that information was given to you by our staff.
» Yes. And then when we went after the there was quite a bit more details when
we went after the last funding the Hughes application a couple years ago
um where we even showcased the kind of the order that they would be developed
in. So the >> so if I wanted to know the pro you know
the rationale or whatever then it's either in the index or the municipal
staff reports. Okay. Uh so then uh same thing when we switch to the master plan
for Lion's Head on page 16 uh the dark areas that are planned
development. So what is the dis difference between future development
that I guess and plan development because there's quite a lot of areas
here in the gray uh that in the small uh hashtags plan
development. So where did where did that information come from? Uh again
» similar this the mapping and the color coding
etc was from documents provided by the municipality. So
as accurate as we understand it it is but uh
there is the opportunity to review it in more detail as needed.
» Okay. because uh yeah, I I understand we're very preliminary here. These we'll
certainly have some feedback from from some of this for sure. Okay, thank you.
» So,
I know the bottom or this and I'm just looking at lion's head which is not the
same. I know that the town area and the urban area proposed for Totore is large,
very large, but not so much so in Lion's Head. And
that sort of lays out to me the boundaries of Lion. That's the town
boundaries of Lion's Head. And [clears throat] so that
that section of his properties within the
» Yes. >> within the town. and and um and a mid
master plan we we did add in the more street area as well. Um
» yeah, >> discussion with the miss. So it it's
expanded quite a bit out to the the east there along the shore and
from my own benefit. So out big tub road and maybe
more people more you can tell me but there there is something in that out
behind there on big tub road like there are like
» there are lots >> there are lots in there so that
yeah and [clears throat] I guess
on the other side here there has been some interest shown in
in development there so and I'm looking east of Highway 6.
» These diagrams don't necessarily show all the individual property lots per se.
It uh I mean we could we could provide that
level of detail as needed if you want to see that in the master plan but uh
we went into much more detail with Mory since we were going after the funding.
So we were very very specific. So uh Chris just on the separate you
talked about separation distance. I wonder what is that separation distance
» for a water sewer? >> Um well obviously when services into
homes you have to have you typically want them separated for water and sewer.
And the same thing when you're building say a treated water main and a gravity
sewer. The ministry usually has a separation of 2.5 horizontal meters.
um just help and then just helps with potential contamination. So if your
water man goes below 20 PSI and say your gravity sewers here, you could have some
potential contamination entering water main. So they're just trying to protect
that with rock installation. You know, that's a rock remove, I should say.
That's a lot of money to to have a trench that large. So there is so there
is some potential to request confirmation from the the ministry to
I've had to do another job as well where we were able to shrink that distance as
long as um
you know your water man's higher than your sewer. So we had to had to maintain
that. So instead of vice versa you know if you had your sewer higher then
leakage from a sewer could come down into the water man. So opportunities to
to um get them closer. You just have to careful and and design them correctly.
» No, just told Andy the rock they got the situation there. So it
you basically need trenches, I guess. >> I know some with other water man
replacement jobs are in rock. We try and um if we can install a new water man in
the same location. So you put up a temporary system above ground, remove
the water man and reinstall the new water man at a larger size within that
same existing trench assuming it was installed properly originally.
» The other thing too, you talk about upgrades to the water treatment plant in
Lion's head. >> So that water treatment plant is not
operating at near capacity. So what would the upgrades be to the
system? Uh >> what would be
main things would be fireflow. >> Okay.
» Um [clears throat] so you'd have to have larger pumps.
» Okay. Um you know you potentially need a larger space to in um generally it would
be just from a capacity perspective as well. You may need more room to upgrade
the equipment as time goes by. And I do realize yes, it's it's um not operating
at full capacity, but master plan kind of goes through
the range of timelines for when you'd have to look at expanding. So could
potentially connect some things on at first, but then you'd have to upgrade
eventually if you want to keep anyway. So yeah.
» All right. Thank you. Um, other questions?
» Yeah, how about read through the master plans if I know they just got them
recently, but um more in depth look at those. Don't be
overwhelmed. The the main there's 300 400 pages of appendices. So, the main
body is probably 50 to 60 pages. >> We can get through that. So,
» and uh field your questions to to Peggy as well. And then we can if you have any
concerns we can we can look up them. >> Well on behalf of council and staff uh
thank you very much for your presentation.
You may hear more from us if not. [laughter]
All right, we have one other delegation. Joe Roach.
» Joe. Yeah, >> right. Right there, Joe. Yeah.
» Was that mic on, Joe? Is a red Did you turn it off, Chris? Yeah. Just press the
uh silver button there, Joe.
You're in business. Business. Okay. Um, my name's Joe Roach. I was born in
Peterbor, Ontario. Uh, and I had a successful
uh career as a construction superintendent
building high-rise projects downtown Toronto. I built my lakefront home here
in uh Little Pike Bay Estates in 1992. And uh I just want to give you a little
history of uh of what happened there. And uh I call it the Big Con.
Uh it was the last frontier for Lakefront. Um
um they were offering 2 acres lots of damaged land uh ravaged by winds.
Infestation of the balsam tree choking the native trees causing underbrush and
dangerous forest conditions for the last 125 years.
Um these are low elevation lots and uh they had to they had to get them sold.
Um they were offering these lots back in 1985 for approximately $35 to $40,000.
They flocked from Kitchener and G and List.
Um the municipality of North Bruce were not proactive in solving problems of
bylaw. So you are the target. Um they off they they said that the
cottages just had to be 50 feet back instead of 100 to 300 ft depending upon
lot elevation. I don't understand this 50 ft uh should be feet above sea level
and it should be a meter at least to the underside of footing. They are also
doing stone underneath the footings. It's not cold. It must be engineered. Uh
I I I I made my first uh myself known in 1992 when I came up and uh had a foot
and a half of stone all nicely spread looking really nice. And I
[clears throat] made the uh the excavator take it all out. My footings
went on top of rock, not stone. Stone water don't mix. Uh too much up and
down. No way. Um
all the boulevards were left in poor shape, stumps, trees, rocks, etc.
There's absolutely no direction in lakefront problems. High wind, high
water does not include waves and sees. Uh how about waves throwing rocks?
For God's sakes, leave your trees at the front. It's the first line of defense
against wind or snow. These are things that should be, you know, discussed with
the people coming up here that don't know anything that actually they think
they know everything, but they don't. And uh what about the cleanup?
Absolutely nothing. Um okay. Uh you know quite simply put
the force in and little pike bay estates and Hobson Harbor these are the two
areas where I have uh properties don't meet the safety standards set by the
Ontario >> [clears throat]
» uh the province of Ontario they are infested by dead trees under bluffs that
is that is dangerous to the public first responders and emergency personnel. It's
so thick you can't get to or see. It'll burn so hot you can't part it out. Um,
what about insects and rodents? These are the the only thing that looks nice
is the driveway and the place where you have your your your home. The rest of
the property is ignored. So, I mean, like it's uh I've been there for over 30
years or 35 and uh nobody operates a chainsaw. Nobody cleans up. Um the the
only person I've seen that was your father and he got that from me.
And of course, Stan cleaned up and the judge cleaned up and that's it. the
Bradley, they uh did a half to ask job, too. But anyway, um
okay, where are we here? Uh there's no physical due diligence
from North Bruce. Why is nobody addressing these problems? I mean, like,
uh you got two problems. You have a problem with the safety and you also got
a problem with fire. Now, I guarantee you that
that don't look like that picture there, Haw Road and Hobson Harbor. There's no
way. It's uh I I just cringe every time I see the the the underbrush. It's just
makes me ill. Um okay, here's what [clears throat] happened. Okay, bylaw
refused to meet and this isn't the first time I got the Department of Labor
involved. Then I got some attention. bylaw was to bring the fire chief and we
had a meeting right on my front porch unannounced. It was lucky I was home,
but I guess he shook him a bit. Items discussed. We discussed a fire line. I
mean, uh, it's possible. I think it's worth discussing. Um, absolutely
no due diligence at all. There's some paperwork and stuff saying we're going
to do that and you should do that, but nothing physical. I mean, if a fire
broke out, uh there's going to be a lot of questions asked here. And we got our
pants down. There's um there's no way. Uh you guys forecast severe wildfires.
Wow. I can guarantee you we're not cut out for that. Um I'm not talking too
loud, am I? >> You're okay.
» You're okay, Lord. Um >> Okay, good. Um,
access for emergency personnel and first responders through properties. That's a
must. I mean, people live there. It's full of cottages, blood, all kinds of
stuff. Yeah. The the fire personnel has to get through and so do first
responders. Um, people need to be shocked.
The attitude of the land owners is uh an attitude of ungrateful and indifferent.
You get this is our land and we can do what we want. Uh you can't make me.
These are the obstacles we have. I don't know. Uh I in a construction project
when I things didn't go my way safety. I shut her down. The crane stopped moving.
I shut the power off. hauled in Department of Labor. Let's solve the
damn problem. Hell, if I if an accident falls in one
of my job sites, man, they're going to hang me.
Anyway, uh red tag properties. These are also discussed. Um
by law actually said that we wouldn't be the first uh to be looked after. So that
led me to believe that our community is not the only one that has a problem.
Frankly, I'm having trouble with the careless handling of this issue and the
way it's been handled.
Whoops. Sorry. Um
to
lost a piece of paper. Okay. Bang. Bang. Okay. Um,
here's what I suggest. All V, all the boulevards in our be cut back. All the
trees removed. Cut back to the actual property line. You take a measurement
from the center line and measure. You don't need to be exact. Who cares?
They're not going to care. But that's got to be cleaned out. I mean, you have
to show due diligence, right? We need safe access between the homes. You don't
have to uh they have all this underbrush because uh they don't want to put a
fence or it's for privacy. No, you can't. They have personnel going through
falling trees, dead trees, underbrush. That's just wrong. Um it's just been
poor leadership from the township on the uh all these issues and the possible
fire line cut uh the borders neighborhoods. I don't know what else to
do on on this thing. I I don't know. How about
just being as this is a safety issue and it's nothing is been handled. I'm
surprised that you don't have any cleanup in this at all. This is claiming
action together and just absolutely no clean up. There's no
no pressure put on the homeowner to either [ __ ] or get off the pot.
I don't know. What do I have to do? Call for the resignation of the CEO and the
bylaw officer? I I think they're floating. Well, how do you give us a
chance to let them respond to council, Joe? So that we like we need to we need
to see what is what >> Yeah. Okay, fine. I'm being a little
harsh, I guess, but uh >> well well maybe not. Who knows? But we
um we just need to see what what kind of answers you're getting.
» What do you mean answers? >> Well, you you're suggesting there's a
whole lot there's quite a bit of stuff go wrong in in your presentation here.
» Yes. So, I I'm just suggesting that we the council or the staff inform counsel
uh responding to your concerns to see if we agree with what they're what they're
telling us and you and so you want to take this further. Is that what you're
suggesting? >> I I I'm suggesting we want to see what's
going on. We want to we want a report to outline our response [clears throat]
to your your questions. >> Okay, fine. So, who's going to do a
report? >> Uh, well, you're you bylaw is number
one. You're you're suggesting bylaw. >> Of course, there's nothing happening.
» Fire. We'll have our fire department. Uh,
» absolutely. They're they're not uh well equipped enough. I I know.
» Okay. >> Like, you know, I when I hear words like
severe wildfires, >> Yeah.
» that kind of bothers me. >> We don't want them.
» No way. Y >> and we have to be ready and we're not.
These forests drawing these communities a mess.
» Yeah. >> Give us a chance to respond, Joe.
» Yeah. Okay, fine. And we'll see where we go from there.
» Okay. Item number two. >> Uh yep. Uh yeah, go ahead. Uh you have
» I was just going to ask are these all private properties?
» Yes. >> Okay. Uh well,
» yeah, they're all private properties, but I mean uh they're all like um
in this little pipe states, there's a lot of empty lots or developers,
you know, uh and the land in behind is a a forest that's unmanaged.
Because I we have to kind of look at the bigger picture too because we well we
have huge tracks of conservation lands and federal lands that we really don't
have any control over and they have different measures as far as how uh some
I personally have been wary of the fire issue too with the amount of
conservation and federal lands where a tree falls down, it just stays there.
So, uh, but what we'll need to know like what's the difference between federal
and private lands as far as cleanup to me because even though I've been
[clears throat] pounding a little bit about fire like
national parks, huge tracks of conservation lands that aren't managed
for for fire uh and getting nowhere. just so what the difference is with with
private lands. So I I was just curious if these were all private lands. So I'll
quit talking, let you get on to number also too like in my area like it's not
the streets. It's all dead popular. Th these are widow makers on private land
and if if there was a fire about uh in a 2acre property, you won't be able to see
it, but you have to go in there and these trees will fall right on you or
you can't even get to it. Okay. Uh um I don't know. You obviously you have to
get lawyers involved or maybe uh you have to make them do it or uh or they
have to hire someone. I I it's going to cost him a lot of money, I would think.
And um but I don't know. I did it. Uh I do a little bit at a time and I know
your dad did it and uh that's the way all the lot should look and uh it's it's
an issue now because of climate change and uh uh all we need is a is a little
drought and it could be next month or sometime in September or next year, but
we're going to get it. And uh uh all it takes is a lightning strike south of me
along the edge and there goes my house because it's just a mess of trees in
between the properties you can't get to I
» Okay, that good enough. >> That's good enough, too. Yeah, that's
that number two.
» Sure. >> All right. Okay. Uh and this new guy
moved in next door to me, just north of me. And uh Joe, what is the what is item
number two? Just to >> Well, it's just that just he put the
wrong uh the roadway in the wrong side. It's on the wrong side of the lot.
» Oh, okay. >> I I don't know how you can prove prove a
a roadway without seeing a park. >> Okay. He got a nice little uh wind
tunnel. That's just unbelievable. He's opened up 80 ft in the front. 80 ft. He
put his driveway on the wrong side. So, you got a nice nice wind tunnel there.
He uh he moves his house over 25 ft. Angles it. So, I got a nice funnel
coming in. He's got a 12ft drift uh coming up right on our border. He's
knocking my trees over. He's already lost a lot of trees. He doesn't care.
He's a developer. He's got his house perfectly on one side. All his services,
water, everything is over here. This side, he wants to sever and build
another house. someday. That's his plan. >> Okay. So, you want us to have a look at
that driveway? >> I want you to please look at that
driveway and find out. I mean, this plot plan is a secret thing. You can't get to
it unless you hire a lawyer. So, look at the plot plan. I'd be interested to know
where he put the wall. Yeah. On that plot plan because it's
over there stacked right behind the the septic. Now, I bet you it's a dollar to
a donut. It's not 50 or 60 ft away, but that's fine. Whatever. Maybe it is. I
didn't measure it. But, uh, he wants to put another building there someday. I
know it. All right. Okay. I want a fence. I want him to lay out the
property. Uh, property line. I need a fence. Uh, uh. Um, there's one other
issue he's got to do. He's got to
» Well, that's enough for now, Mayor. I'll hear
» that'll keep us busy. >> Is [clears throat] that okay? Yeah.
» Are you all right? >> That's You did fine.
» Yeah. Thanks. >> Yeah.
» Um Okay. Um when will I find out some kind of progress on this or
» uh I'll just look to our CEO here and give us an idea of a timeline.
» So, as per council direction, we will report back at the next council meeting.
» At that point, once council's received it, we will send you a copy of that
report. >> Okay. Super. So, it would be a good idea
to come next council me. >> Uh,
we will get the report. >> Yeah.
» And if you you can look at the report. Uh, you would have to make another
delegation to council. Did you you contacted the clerk? Right.
» I did. >> Good. And if you [clears throat] you're
best to look at the report and see what you think.
» So, then you when will I get the report? Uh the report will is it August 13th our
next council? >> August 10th is our next council meeting.
» Okay. So I'll have it by then. Right. >> So you'll uh that it'll come out on the
Thursday before August the 10th. So whatever date that is that would be
» to pick it up. Then I'll save the mail. You can call me.
» Uh would you call me let me know and I'll come and get it.
» Okay. Okay. I just want to stress that uh when you get the Department of Labor
involved uh I don't know uh due to due diligence
is really handy. >> Okay.
» Really handy. Okay. Thanks guys. Nice show.
All right.
Go on to our agenda.
Well, considerations of a jog items and uh first of all is the CIO reports.
is that council direct staff to submit an application to Bruce Power through
the regional municipal readiness assessment fund for the following
studies. 12 water treatment expansion review and the municipalities parks and
recreation master plan review
second that Smokey Todd.
So just a question and and so what do we get beyond
I I in [clears throat] your report outlines it but beyond what we already
know Peggy with the with the uh so the presentation we had here today the
information that's in that report uh what do we get that's
above and beyond that. So this essentially is the next step on
sighting for a treatment center within toll my as Chris has stated is that uh
the next step is to do a sighting to ensure that you know uh updated costs
are provided to council. Um so we would look at those at the sections that
have been provided already to council through the master plan and check out
their feasibilities for those areas. um once they found a feasible area the next
step would be involved was providing for the EA. So this is just a small step in
the process. However, uh providing a grant does save the municipality some
costs and also keeps momentum up in this project itself.
» Yeah. No, I think the uh I just wasn't sure what that would give us beyond in
that one. I mean the recreation master plan that's that's good. That's that
needs a bit an update. Okay. Any further corre?
» So really we've got two asks here. Is it weighted or we're just throwing them
into the mix and hoping for the best or >> uh I have had consultation uh with the
Bruce C group and they believe that both are good candidates for uh the funding.
Hence we may receive um half for each or but as stated before this does allow for
us to continue momentum as a master plan for sighting of the uh treatment center.
Other questions? Call the vote. All in favor?
The motion's carried. CEO uh report number two. Uh the council
receives report CAO26-09 as information regarding the acquisition
of lands airlines head for future recreational and community
infrastructure opportunities. Second for that one. Rod.
Any questions, comments?
Call the vote. All in favor? Opposed? Motion is carried.
Uh item number item number CO
is that uh council approves the creation of two permanent full-time waste
management operator positions subject to completion of the required collective
agreement discussions with local 266. and that staff be authorized to engage
with the local 266 regarding the required amendments to the collective
agreement including classification and wage placement [clears throat] and that
the following completion of the labor relations process
staff be authorized to proceed with recruitment and implementation of the
positions
along any question regarding that
» right. >> So this this could happen internally
potentially but we're looking for in [clears throat] blood. Right.
» Correct. So we would follow uh the internal and external process for hiring
um for these two positions. Uh we have already started discussions um with OPSU
and uh they are in agreement with the job description. So the next step would
be amendments to the contract and uh wage placement.
» Uh Smoky. >> Um yeah, just so I get this clear in my
head, we're looking for two
more employees that will be full-time that will strictly be on garbage.
That is correct. >> Okay. Um,
it's just that in my, of course, I have things going on in my head that no one
knows. [laughter] But I mean, I guess originally I kind of thought, okay,
we're doing our own garbage, which is so uh we have so much more garbage in the
summer uh than we do in the winter, and we uh
have so much more snow in the winter than we do in the summer. So, is there
not some way to make this work for the municipality? Like, perhaps we're going
to do that at any rate, but uh rather than hire two more full-time employees,
um I'm just just questioning that because I'm going
to be questioned about it. So, uh I would like to know the rationale why. Uh
and and I suppose the should we really just give this the
first year I I'm just questioning the rationale behind that because I had
thought perhaps you know we could make this work within our staff or maybe how
many staff do we think we're going to need to do our own service perhaps this
is reasonable be you know uh but I'd like an explanation on it
The only way that we can explain this is that um at each new term of council,
council provides a direction for the role of service and corporates or
full-time staff. So our staff currently right now are working full-time shifts
to provide for a new business unit within the public works department.
council would have to advise of which level of service that we would require
to cut to actually provide for that collection service. So right now I we're
anticipating that it won't be be a one day event of garbage collection similar
to currently what is being held on Mondays. Waste management brings up 7 to
eight trucks on a Monday to actually do all of our collection. that will be
impossible for us to complete. So for us to at least provide 4 days of 10-hour
shifts, that's 40 hours right there. Uh potentially there are going to be days
that things might be very luxed, but we still have to actually travel the entire
municipality to actually pick up each garbage and visit each site. Hence why
we're so looking at a certain structured day of it. If we could go to one staff,
that would be great. However, we do require to have two staff to do the
service. We are also looking at a potential for a casual part-timer in
case of sickness. That right now will be
uh provided by current staff members if required. Unfortunately, right now we
are already on a full workload during the day and to move two other staff into
a [snorts] another business unit would require us to look at something a
reduction lie service for something else.
Thank you for the explanation and uh it's it's on recording so I will
any then I'm asked you know why we can't make this work I will direct people to
your explanation. Thank you. >> Yeah we also had a report last meeting
that outlined uh the whole service that we're going to try and
provide in house. So that report is a detailed report and it spells out why we
need two people and uh yeah I I think it uh I think it warrants
if we're going to provide our own service and that's what we decided at
the last meeting that we were and we need staff to do it. So
yeah, >> and also the just the curiosity that
these will be full-time. [snorts] This will be the job description is that
this is what they do. We're not looking at people that can go in between jobs,
do this or do the other work. So that's clear as well that it's
strictly on the garbage. Okay. Thank you.
All right. Uh, further questions, comments,
call vote. All in favor? Opposed? The motion's carried.
Uh, clerk's department is the joint compliance audit committee and that
council direct staff to bring forward a bylaw to appoint members to the first
county joint compliance audit committee.
and secretary for that one. Todd and Rob.
Any questions on that one? Call the vote. All in favor?
Opposed? The motion is carried. The clerk's report again. Uh item B has a
[clears throat] council direct staff to bring forward a bylaw to delegate
authority to the CAO during a lane duck period.
executive for that one. Smokey, I'm on.
Any questions on that one? >> Call it Linda. [laughter]
» All right.
» All right. And lame duck it is. Call the vote. All in favor?
Buried.
Uh we're a treasury and that council authorized the mayor clerk to enter into
agreement with uh our new doctor and I'm not going to try and pronounce that
name. Peggy, do you we will just say we are very delighted to have a new doctor
join the Peninsula Family Health Team. line said and when they do
uh we we uh agree to enter into an agreement with them.
So motion to bring that forward Todd and Rod.
Any questions on that? Call a vote. All in favor?
Opposed? The motion is carried. Next we go to public works and that um
council approves the purchase of a new 2025 freight liner uh rear loading
refuge truck in the amount of 318,000 plus HST
on any questions on that one. So, you were
able to get that one, Troy. Hey. >> Mhm.
» Yes, we have a a hole on it right now until the approval from council. So,
» okay. >> We're very fortunate that uh there was
one one a new one available. So, >> yeah. Um also uh before we can apply to
get our licensing to be able to do collection uh through thee, we have to
have [snorts] uh a truck in place to to secure that licensing for to do the
collection. So this is kind of the first step in getting our approvals to do it.
So
all right, any questions? Call the vote. All in favor?
Opposed? Motion is carried.
Item B, public works and that council awards the winter sand tender to Hunter
College and Excavating Inc. for the amount of $147,776
excluding HST.
Move by second by Ammon. [clears throat] Any questions?
Call the vote. All in favor? Oppos? The motions carried.
Parks and facilities. The council accepts the proposal from Triphase Group
in the amount of 66,955 plus HST for demolition and site
restoration of three Centennial Drive inclusive of designated substance
removal, backfill compaction and securing preservation of on-site hydro,
water and septic. Move and second to relax.
Todd Rod the uh substance removal.
Peggy, what? Ellen Clark, sorry. Uh yes, through you, Mr. Mayor. Um
there was um the assessments done on various municipal buildings. Um, this
building had a small amount of asbestous containing material in the
» floor tiles of one of six bathrooms. So, it's very small amount,
» but it [clears throat] still has to be uh treated and disposed of according to
provincial regulations. So, >> right.
» All right. Any further questions on call the vote? All in favor?
Opposed? Motion is carried.
Item B is uh build community strong fund grant application
and the council authorized staff to submit a funding application to the
build community strong fund for the replacement of the noted roof surfacing
HVAC and refrigeration and the equipment and
equip and refrigeration equipment sorry in the Lion Head Community Center and
Arena to be proposed in the 2027 7 capital budget
and second year on Smithy.
Mark, you want to give us a little update on that?
» This is a good funding opportunity specific to the um the refrigeration
system of the arena. Um
and uh Simco Refrigeration who's doing our capital improvements this summer is
helping us write the grant and uh reinforce the grant. Uh there's no
commitments there. Um doesn't cost us anything for their assistance [snorts]
in the report and uh it does align with our asset management, building condition
assessment reports and our capital planning for next year.
» Okay, good. So these are all items that are due in the next year or two for
replacement. So right. All right. And any further questions?
All in favor? Post. The motion is carried.
Item number C for facilities is Tromary Community Center flooring.
That [clears throat] council waves the purchasing policy section 5424
soul source supply of goods and or services for the purchase order of
specialized flooring product. And the council accepts a quotation from
Advantage Sports for the supply and installation of
target Omni Sport multiplex flooring to the main hall of the Troy Community
Center in the amount of 79,500 plus HSG for the specs of the quote a
July 20th 2026
for that one. Do I not
Any comments on that, Mark? Yes, Rob. Sorry.
» Just a humorous humorous idea. >> Okay.
» Maybe it's okay. Yeah. >> So, this is actually the third floor we
had in there. The first floor they put in. [clears throat] The guy that made it
was a good smoker and that wasn't trying to get smokeable.
But he also had paper matches that he flipped out on the floor and they tiled
over top them. So we went into
the new floor and they had to rip the whole thing out and
start all over. >> Oh god.
» Don't smoke at work.
» Yeah. So this flooring >> Yeah. So, [clears throat] the current
tile flooring is similar to the tile flooring in in this room. Um,
when you're there, if you've ever taken a close look, uh, there's a fair bit of
bubbling occurring in some of the floor tiles in various lines where we believe
the the seams are in the concrete subfloor.
Um, it appears to be a moisture problem. Not that the concrete is deteriorated,
but it caught the moisture problem. Uh shows up kind of hard to explain why,
but it it does. Um and it can lift separate the glue the adhesive from the
tile and it causes a bubbling of the tile. Um our floor maintenance ends up
uh grinding those tiles as they get raised.
We have a floor machine. um and then they will eventually dry,
crack um and they become an uneven floor hazard for users of the facility. So
what's there currently has been repaired. Those seams have been repaired
prior. Uh we have been monitoring the floor. Um it's deteriorated a bit
quicker than we had hoped this year, this summer. um to the point that I have
concerns that we should be looking at replacing it now rather than waiting
until uh next year in the capital budget process. October is our best month in
terms of downtime for redoing the flooring in the hall and transition
between different user groups and pickle ball. The other advantage to changing to
the changing the floor product surface is uh the floor product that we're
recommending uh will come with painted lines for the pickle ball courts. So
there won't be the masking tape application
uh that's uh laid and then removed each time the floor has to be waxed and
stripped. So So there's some advantages that way. And this product comes with an
actual vapor barrier, moisture barrier underlay, which would should prevent any
further future uh moisture issues to whatever flooring we put down. So,
will the floor just be a white color or gray color with the lines
on it? I see some like planks and >> Yeah. So, in the photos in the report,
it shows the the most prominent color pattern they use, which is a wood
pattern. It's a vinyl sheet roll, 6 ft wide, so there'll be less seams, and the
seams are heat welded and glued uh to the floor. Um, and they offer some
cushion resistance for sport playing. So, we do have pickle ball that plays in
there to be more friendly to their joints.
Um, it's easier to maintain. It's mopping and or we can still use the
floor machine. We just don't have to strip and wax twice a year, which is a
multi-day endeavor twice a year and about $1,000 in materials each year just
maintaining the existing floor. So,
thank you. Any further questions? Call the vote. All in favor?
The motion's carried. Go to building department A. Item A.
The council approves the application for an exemption from the T trailer bylaw in
consideration of the unique circumstance pre presented
second for that. Uh Smokey Todd I just don't quite get this one here. I
» speak when my mic is not here but
» that's right beside the U house that burnt down
and I guess the stench and the smell from the what's left of the building
» okay >> is pretty overpowering. So these people
have another lot they'd like to move the trailer up there shortterm only until
Okay. Yes. Sounds good. All right. Any further
questions? Call the vote. All in favor? Opposed? Motion is carried.
And we go to the item six on the agenda, the minutes for the museum for June 9th,
2026.
You want a motion to
go item number seven correspondence requiring council direction.
So there's the Rotary Club. We've had the report there from them
requesting a temporary patio license at the Rotary Hall. So that's the new patio
that has been added to the Rotary Hall. They would like support their license
area during summer basically.
Yeah.
Goodbye. Second by Rod.
Any questions? Call the vote. All in favor? Post. The
motion is carried.
Um, Larry Huds, Larry Cousins, you're on drive road access.
Uh, Troy, do you want to speak to a little bit? I I mean, I guess I kind of
get, you know, I'm just looking here at at your response, Troy,
and and just it says or continued on page two. It says or continued
availability of the route and it's just
and I'll let [clears throat] you just have a look at that and this is probably
some legal advice we got but
» yes so this was a letter was in response to the um letter that we uh
correspondence we received from the interior landlords association.
» Yeah. >> Oh okay. Yes.
» Yeah. So this was a letter that went to back to them in response for their for
council support you know that they have used that access and I believe uh the
Mr. Cousins I believe is one of the owners on in that area and maybe was
just maybe partly confused about what the letter was was about is kind of my
understanding but >> um because really there's no change in
anything that we've we've done. So, >> okay, that dates back to that Ontario
land request. Okay. >> All right.
Um,
so I'm just, uh,
so he responded though to your letter, Troy, right? And here.
» Yes, that is correct. >> Yeah. Yeah.
And are we do we respond back to him or >> we could respond we could respond back
to him with and uh clarify what his Yeah, we could do that.
» Sorry. >> Yeah. Yeah. Good.
» Yeah. There just seemed to be some unease about the way our letter came out
and that's just the legal ease that we have to use. But I think he just
» you said it there. Nothing will change. >> Yeah. Yeah.
We staff can do that. >> Sounds good.
Uh and in the uh the mystery of energy and minds
and uh is there anything here that uh staff can
mark or who who would look at this a little bit to see if there's anything
here that we can
I'll just direct it back to staff to have a look at it and there may there
may be some opportunity
extra little other business.
Does anyone Yes, go ahead. Um yeah, I just uh wanted to re um I asked a few
weeks ago about the progress on the senior's apartments in uh Tobber my
uh yes the residents on the west side have been reinstated in uh but I've been
questioned uh they haven't seen anybody working there
since that when how will I
uh when are they uh going to be allowing the uh the residents in the east side of
the building uh to uh move back in? Do you have any ideas on that or
we do not have a phone date? Um we do expect them to be in however before
Christmas. Um but we will direct your questions to Bruce County. Yes, that's
that's what I I I was hoping you'd say. Thanks.
» All right. Thank you, Shi. And
» yeah, just uh so last council meeting the uh the food bank uh do a
presentation uh requesting some assistance on finding a new location. Uh
just wondering when we're going to look at that report again. Just it sound like
the request was kind of semi urgent or some urgency to it.
So staff have reviewed uh current locations within our current municipal
facilities. Unfortunately, we don't have any spaces available at this time.
However, as per the report um regarding purchasing of uh property for recreation
community purposes, I believe it might be a good avenue for council to have
that discussion of what the next steps are with that property.
just have a question regarding the highspeed internet. I know people that
live in South Bruce and they've actually been hooked up to new services and it
just appears that there doesn't seem to be much action going on in North Bruce.
I just was curious as to the status. We'll have to get back to you on a
current updated status. We do have it on our website, but I know they haven't
actually updated the draft currently right now.
» Thank you.
» Anyone else have other business? If not,
we will move in to item 10 on the agenda, which is closed session, and
that council move in closed meeting with the CEO and clerk in attendance pursuant
to section 2392 of the municipal act 2001 as amendment
for the following reasons. Personnel matters about identifiable
individual including municipal or local board employees specifically related to
a personnel update. Thank you for a second for that. Do and
smokey all favorite motion carated.