1 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:17,590 Good afternoon. 2 00:01:17,600 --> 00:02:10,869 Thank you. 3 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:30,070 That's one. 4 00:02:30,080 --> 00:03:00,790 So, 5 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:09,110 You're advising 6 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,840 bylaw amendment. for a property at 220 7 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Tamarak Road. The applicant is proposing 8 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,599 to sever three new lots from the 9 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:19,680 property and the zoning bylaw amendment 10 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,920 is required to reduce the minimum 11 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:24,879 frontage for those lots. Uh the proposed 12 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:27,440 lots are going to be approximately 0.42 13 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,200 42 hectares or 4200 square meters which 14 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,760 is about an acre and the proposed 15 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,680 frontage is going to be approximately 16 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,200 31.91 17 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,560 m on Walter Charman Drive. 18 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Um 19 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,720 the zoning bylaw requires a minimum 20 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,309 frontage of 35 m. 21 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:52,799 Um, so we'll quickly go over the 22 00:03:52,799 --> 00:03:56,319 policies that are applicable in Oh, 23 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:59,519 there we go. Um, that are applicable in 24 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:02,560 this in this uh proposal. Um, the 25 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,640 applicant completed an environmental 26 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,400 impact study, an archaeological 27 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,040 assessment, and a lock grading um plan 28 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,239 to support this application. 29 00:04:12,239 --> 00:04:13,920 So, the county official plan designates 30 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,400 the property as rural, recreational, and 31 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,440 hazard. Um the designation identifies 32 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,120 areas that are typically within close 33 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,280 proximity to recreational amenities like 34 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:25,840 the waterfront or shoreline um and where 35 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:27,600 development has already occurred or 36 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,680 smaller communities exist. We see this 37 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,600 designation along a lot of our 38 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,520 waterfront properties and in our little 39 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,880 bays and smaller communities. Um it 40 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,960 identifies areas that are close to the 41 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,800 water where we we're seeing a lot of 42 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,240 development but we don't necessarily 43 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,160 have services available. It's not a 44 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,120 settlement area. Um but it is where we 45 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,000 want to focus uh development in sort of 46 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,720 a smaller scale. 47 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,520 Um so the county official plan outlines 48 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,120 the goals and objectives for this 49 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,400 designation and it says specifically 50 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,199 that uh this area is for the development 51 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:05,199 of four season tourism industry, 52 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:07,520 continual improvement of tourism related 53 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,840 facilities and the provision of land for 54 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:12,479 new residential growth opportunities. Um 55 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:14,800 and then it also goes on to say that 56 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,120 these types of development need to be 57 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,840 reviewed for their environmental um 58 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,400 their environmental 59 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,080 um impacts and then also for 60 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,840 archaeological and that sort of thing. 61 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:30,880 So that was all done for this proposal. 62 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,280 Um the proposed new lots contribute to 63 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,680 the goals of the county official plan. 64 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,199 Um the minimum lot size or the lots meet 65 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:41,360 the minimum lot size requirements of the 66 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,600 county official plan and again this 67 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,680 proposed lot configuration is sort of in 68 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,759 line with existing development. It's a 69 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:52,479 infilling essentially of this area. 70 00:05:52,479 --> 00:05:54,639 So the property has both natural 71 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,360 heritage and natural hazard features. 72 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Again an EIS was completed to support 73 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,120 this development. The EIS looked at uh 74 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,160 significant woodlands and significant uh 75 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,160 provinially significant wetland which is 76 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,520 along the bay there and uh required 77 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,960 setback was uh was created for these 78 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,240 lots. The EIS supported this three lot 79 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,214 development and defined um development 80 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:22,639 [clears throat] envelopes for each of 81 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:25,919 these these three lots um with with 82 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:27,759 required setbacks to that those 83 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,240 features. [gasps] 84 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,400 um the zoning bylaw amendment is going 85 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,800 to recognize the the developable lot 86 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,919 area and then also zone a portion of the 87 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:40,880 property as um unable to be developed. 88 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,960 There's also environmental hazard area 89 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,680 that is also of course unable to be 90 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,560 developed. 91 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,720 um 92 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,319 an archaeological assessment was 93 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:54,160 completed for the entire property and 94 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,000 there was no items of cultural heritage, 95 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,639 value or interest um identified on the 96 00:06:58,639 --> 00:07:00,319 site. 97 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:02,800 And then the property is zoned R2 98 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,440 resort. The R2 zone requires the same 99 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,080 lot provisions as R1 zone except that it 100 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,680 specifies that waterfront development 101 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,960 may have a minimum lot size of 3,000 102 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,240 square m. Again, the proposed lot sizes 103 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,560 are going to be 4200 square meters with 104 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,280 the retained parcel at 8,200 square 105 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,520 meters. So, the lot sizes are meeting 106 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,479 that as the zoning bylaw requirements. 107 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:28,720 The zoning bylaw does require a minimum 108 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,080 lot frontage of 35 m and this proposal 109 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,919 is seeking a a lot frontage of 31.9 m. 110 00:07:37,919 --> 00:07:41,360 the lock rating plan, identified uh 111 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,440 building envelope 112 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:51,199 um parcels and identified areas or and supported um those that smaller 113 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:54,479 reduction of the frontage by 114 00:07:54,479 --> 00:07:56,879 identifying areas of where well and 115 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:59,360 septic could be located where sepexs are 116 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,479 still going to be met. 117 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:04,000 Um, 118 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,879 and then 119 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:09,280 the proposed zoning bylaw amendment will 120 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,039 recognize the reduced frontage. It's 121 00:08:11,039 --> 00:08:12,879 going to zone the development envelopes 122 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:16,000 that are ident indicated on the EIS and 123 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,360 then the areas outside of the 124 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,960 development envelopes will be zoned to 125 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,599 prohibit development. The environmental 126 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:24,080 hazard zone is proposed to be amended to 127 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,000 restrict the construction of decks, 128 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,440 docks, and boat houses. Um the EIS noted 129 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,399 that a single 1 m wide path to the water 130 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:34,479 was permitted 131 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:36,800 but um permissions were not included for 132 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,839 any other development. So deck docks and 133 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:42,479 boat houses will not be permitted um 134 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:43,839 because this is a proincially 135 00:08:43,839 --> 00:08:46,240 significant wetland. The province also 136 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,120 does not permit development within PSWs. 137 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Um and then my recommendation is 138 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,000 approval for the zoning bylaw amendment. 139 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 The uh mitigation measures outlined in 140 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,519 the EIS are proposed to be included in a 141 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:03,279 development agreement should be 142 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:05,440 registered on title and required as a 143 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,880 condition of the consents 144 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,519 and the mitigation measures are outlined 145 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:15,509 in my report there. 146 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:18,080 Um I'm happy to take any questions and 147 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,600 the applicant is also here for any 148 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,560 questions. 149 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,651 >> All right. Thank you, Megan. 150 00:09:22,651 --> 00:09:24,560 [clears throat] 151 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:27,120 I do have a comment with regards to the 152 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,000 mitigation measures 153 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,560 and 154 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:34,480 we ran into this. This is the second 155 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,279 time that I've seen this. It's on page 156 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:42,310 35 of a report. 157 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,480 And the number four it says, "No 158 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,360 machinery shall be left on site. All 159 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,680 machinery shall be removed from the site 160 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:51,279 daily." 161 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:53,600 And that like I'm just that is pretty 162 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,920 impractical thing to include in a 163 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,760 it's just adding cost and 164 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,120 as I said I've seen it once before 165 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,949 and 166 00:10:08,959 --> 00:10:11,839 it's I mean I I don't hardly understand 167 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:14,560 the rationale of it because vehicles are 168 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,519 parked there all the time and the same 169 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:19,519 thing could happen with vehicles as 170 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:21,040 well. 171 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,279 So maybe if you can explain to me how 172 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:25,440 that 173 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,800 why why 174 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,120 >> Yeah. So these those um requirements are 175 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,519 part of the MECP the Ministry of 176 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:37,200 Environment Conservation and Parks 177 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,000 requirements to protect the Massaga 178 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,800 rattlesnake. So the Masaga is a species 179 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,680 of concern. Um, the municipality doesn't 180 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:53,360 necessarily require we're not it's not 181 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,200 the municipality that has to enforce 182 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,560 those. It's the MECP that has to enforce 183 00:10:58,560 --> 00:11:02,560 that. And these requirements come from 184 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:05,440 them. So the ecologist is not 185 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,040 necessarily the ones who are putting 186 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,120 this in place. It's the MECP that says 187 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,959 like if you include these then we don't 188 00:11:10,959 --> 00:11:15,760 have to go through this whole other um 189 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,519 thing to protect the Massaga 190 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:21,600 essentially. 191 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Does that make sense? 192 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,160 >> What does it mean if you don't include 193 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,670 this? 194 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:31,200 I would have to check with the 195 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,720 ecologist, 196 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,880 but if we didn't include that, and I'm 197 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,680 not sure like if we could just like not 198 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:41,920 include one specific condition or if we 199 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,079 didn't if we if it if all of it like I 200 00:11:44,079 --> 00:11:45,440 would have to check with the ecologist 201 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,880 on that. Um, but 202 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,993 basically [sighs and gasps] 203 00:11:51,993 --> 00:11:55,509 [clears throat] 204 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:57,519 » so this I'm not going to turn this on 205 00:11:57,519 --> 00:12:57,990 because 206 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,040 Um it is a common requirement we see 207 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,600 especially up here with the rattlesnake 208 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,000 population. Um and whenever we do see 209 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,480 these these assessments done it is a 210 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,720 pretty common requirement on these 211 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,040 development agreements. I can because 212 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,320 like oil and stuff can can contaminate 213 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,079 the site. And then also if like the 214 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:24,639 snakes go on to the machinery when Yeah. 215 00:13:24,639 --> 00:14:19,430 into 216 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:20,880 some point you have to kind of question 217 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,560 some of these things. I mean, that's our 218 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,240 job. And uh 219 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,079 so I I would I would [clears throat] 220 00:14:28,079 --> 00:14:31,120 like an answer to it uh before we we we 221 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,240 pass the bylaw next at some later date. 222 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,279 So 223 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:37,760 >> yeah, I think you guys are would would 224 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,440 pass the bylaw at the next council 225 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,680 meeting, which is September 14th, I 226 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,760 believe. So um I should be able to reach 227 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,760 out to the ecologist and get a little 228 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,360 more information on that before that 229 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,120 meeting and and I can provide that to 230 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:49,760 you guys. 231 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,240 >> Yes. Okay. Have a thought. 232 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,920 >> Maybe something to add to that, Megan, 233 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,000 would be if if they do feel that it it 234 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,199 has to be moved, maybe a temporary fence 235 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:05,600 could be put around, like if it's just 236 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 one piece of equipment, it would be easy 237 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:09,920 to put some sort of a temporary fence 238 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,279 around it versus pulling it off site um 239 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:15,760 all the time as well. If that would be 240 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,720 appease them. 241 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,160 >> Yeah. 242 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,600 It's a good point. Yeah. 243 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,959 All right. Uh so it is a public meeting. 244 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:29,279 We will if does any other counselors 245 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:31,279 have a comment? 246 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:33,680 Uh it is a public meeting. We will open 247 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,160 the meeting up to the public. 248 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,000 And if there's anyone here 249 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,399 present that is what wants to speak to 250 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:44,720 the application, you can. This is your 251 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,399 opportunity. 252 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,959 Also, we'll look online to see if anyone 253 00:15:48,959 --> 00:16:00,310 is online to speak to the application. 254 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,160 » You sure can. Yep. 255 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,120 >> Appreciate it. 256 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,279 >> Could you come up here, sir, please? 257 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:06,560 >> Yeah, there's a microphone. 258 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,079 >> Yeah, just state your name, Sergeant. 259 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:12,880 My name is Marcel. 260 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,680 >> There you go. 261 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,320 >> Um, I'm the applicant. I wasn't going to 262 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,720 speak to it. Um, but after hearing your 263 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,079 comments on it, you're banging on the 264 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:22,880 money. So, this whole application took 265 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,959 approximately 2 and 1/2 years to 266 00:16:24,959 --> 00:16:28,320 complete. And that's one of numerous 267 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,920 restrictions that was put on this little 268 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,320 parcel that I couldn't even begin to 269 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,040 have imagined. You know what happens? I 270 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,399 think sometimes is it's like a 271 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:38,160 microscope on just that little piece of 272 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,399 property as if it's some sort of special 273 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:42,800 snake habitat when the reality of it is 274 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,120 it's on a corner with two bordering 275 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,639 roads. Well, I'm I'm not sure why I 276 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:51,440 can't park a vehicle on the property, 277 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,639 but yet 5 ft away, the municipality 278 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:56,000 actually created a parking lot there for 279 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,720 people to go fishing on the causeway. 280 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,839 I can't create a deck or a dock and I'm 281 00:17:01,839 --> 00:17:03,759 restricted to only allowing people to 282 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:06,640 walk 75 meters of that property because 283 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,039 of potential impact they might have. But 284 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:12,559 yet there's a roadway right there on a 285 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,880 causeway. And every winter we know what 286 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,319 happens around here. That snow gets 287 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:19,199 plowed and it dumps sand and salt right 288 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:22,720 into that special water. But yet I can't 289 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,360 allow a residential property with a 290 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,199 small family to go down and maybe enjoy 291 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:28,640 the waterfront because of the 292 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,919 restrictions. So my reasons for agreeing 293 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:34,640 to all those restrictions cuz after the 294 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,120 environmental impact was completed and 295 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,600 we had reviewed it, the county hired 296 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,360 somebody to do a review and they came 297 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,280 back and those were the alternatives we 298 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,679 had was to have more studies done and 299 00:17:45,679 --> 00:17:47,919 have yet another third party review 300 00:17:47,919 --> 00:17:50,640 those conditions. and and it just went 301 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,960 on and on and on. It's like, okay, let's 302 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,240 just accept the ones that were we've 303 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,080 agreed to initially and so we can move 304 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,400 on. So, I was ending my conversing 305 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,000 red tape, but it's not happening. 306 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,360 >> It's not happening. No, 307 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:09,039 >> Megan, was this peer reviewed? 308 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:11,200 >> It wasn't peer reviewed. So, right now 309 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,240 the county has a natural heritage uh 310 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,880 planner who has experience in um in EIS 311 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,600 review. So, if um if and and he's off 312 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,160 currently, but um when he comes back, if 313 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,120 he has the capacity and the availability 314 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:34,640 and it's like within his scope, um we do 315 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,600 the internal peer review. So, it is less 316 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,799 money, less time. Um 317 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:44,000 but um yeah the the larger developments 318 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,240 are sometimes reviewed by by the peer 319 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:52,549 reviewers but this one was not 320 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,200 » okay 321 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,799 >> the red tape and the cost is very 322 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:58,960 restrictive limiting development this 323 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,600 area. 324 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:01,919 Uh 325 00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:04,720 >> is there anyone on the online uh Cali 326 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,880 that's uh 327 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:15,510 there is 328 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,440 If there's anyone online who wishes to 329 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:23,590 speak, could you please raise your hand? 330 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,760 » Seeing none. 331 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,280 >> All right. If there's no members of the 332 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,320 public present and there's none online, 333 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,073 we will close the public meeting. 334 00:19:35,083 --> 00:19:37,510 » [clears throat] 335 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,320 » So, uh, we have a mover and second, and 336 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,160 the recommendation is to approve the 337 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,440 zoning bylaw amendment. Uh, 338 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,679 so if there's no further questions, we 339 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:52,160 will call the vote. All in favor? 340 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:57,029 Opposed? The motion carries. 341 00:19:57,039 --> 00:20:00,240 All right, we'll go to delegations. 342 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,000 And uh this delegation has been removed 343 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,150 from the agenda. 344 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,640 And next we have the coordinator for the 345 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Go Marie and Northern Bridge Peninsula 346 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,679 Chamber of Commerce and it is the uh 347 00:20:15,679 --> 00:20:28,390 Matt strategic plan. Welcome Brian. 348 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Uh Charlene was supposed to be here, but 349 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,480 she's off six, so I'm coming. I'm flying 350 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,640 solo here. Uh I won't go over the whole 351 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,440 plan cuz it's huge. And uh it's just a 352 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,120 refinement of what we presented last 353 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:43,440 fall. Um some of the highlights uh from 354 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,760 this. So we struck up a subcommittee 355 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,760 from the the board of directors to 356 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,760 create this. It took us about 6 months 357 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,039 to put together. So, we we re re we 358 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:56,159 revamped what we currently had. Um, some 359 00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:58,240 of the highlights we came back with was 360 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,799 we're going to create a Matt committee 361 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:04,880 uh every year. So, it's going to contain 362 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,799 up to se seven members. Four of them 363 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,600 going to be board of directors. Uh, five 364 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,080 can be board of directors, chief 365 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,760 members, anybody interested in being on 366 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,480 this committee. It's good. So, what we created this to get approved so we 367 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,240 can move forward with the applications, 368 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,559 which is one of the stipulations we had 369 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:23,760 in the agreement with with the 370 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,440 municipality was we had to create an 371 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,440 application for for people to apply for 372 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,559 funds. But we figured that we found the the MAT plan we currently we 373 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,880 previously had didn't quite match up. 374 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,400 So, we've included that in there, the 375 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,880 stipulations. Uh we actually created 376 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,880 some guidelines and applications and 377 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,440 stuff like that out of this agreement. 378 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,280 Um 379 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,280 the other thing we did is we made it a a 380 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,200 bigger process to change this document. 381 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,640 So it's going to take three different 382 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,520 board meetings. The first one will be a 383 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,960 proposal that there's something in the 384 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,520 document that needed to be changed. The 385 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,200 second one will go through a board for a 386 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,840 vote and then the third will will be uh 387 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,559 will be changed. That way we can't have 388 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,360 a new board in in October or November 389 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,960 say we don't like this and rewrite it. 390 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,320 We have to go through this whole process 391 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,600 again. So, um, those are really the the 392 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,440 big highlights in this. This was more 393 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,960 just to get that application process 394 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,159 going. So, once we can get this 395 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:20,400 approved, uh, we can get the 396 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,919 applications out and and, uh, um, 397 00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:25,760 different people can apply for for Matt 398 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,880 funds for for projects. 399 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,720 >> All right, Brian. Uh, council, any 400 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,480 questions? Yeah, Smokey. 401 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,720 >> I don't have 402 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,080 uh glad going through as I did to see 403 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,760 you know a lot of your focus are things 404 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,440 that we try to focus or on over the 405 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,240 years and that was the you know looking 406 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,799 at springfall and trying to bring that 407 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:51,200 forward and minimize you know we all 408 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,760 know in the summer what happens but it 409 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,080 looks like this document's going to you 410 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,400 know put some money where we really need 411 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,679 it in trying to extend the season and 412 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:05,200 extend uh you know the focus of tourism 413 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,559 so that uh and and good luck with that. 414 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,720 But I I was really happy to see that in 415 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,440 this document that it's doing what we 416 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,720 hope at least I when we talk about that 417 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,240 tax hoping this money would be u going 418 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,760 to 419 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,360 >> All right. Thank you Smokey. Any further 420 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,280 comments? 421 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,600 So Peggy, what are we where are we 422 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,760 heading here? 423 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Um there is a report uh 2612 424 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000 that council receives the strategic 425 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,840 plan. Um it's as stated is included in 426 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,000 the agreement. So this is just merely a 427 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,470 formality. 428 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,880 » All right. Thank you then Ryan. I 429 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720 appreciate your Yeah. Appreciate the 430 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,720 presentation. Thank you. 431 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,679 Uh, next, Sherry Tobin and Dave Fluke. 432 00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:02,480 Proposed partnership with Ontario 360 433 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,799 Tours 434 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:07,679 and they are online. 435 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:10,640 Uh, hi Sherry 436 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:19,190 Dave. 437 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,480 » Hi Sher. Yes. 438 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,279 >> Oh, yes. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. 439 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:24,159 Yeah, go ahead. 440 00:24:24,159 --> 00:24:25,679 >> Just waiting for Dave to get online 441 00:24:25,679 --> 00:24:31,909 here. Dave, are you here? 442 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:41,029 Dave, 443 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:42,400 sorry. If if you don't mind, we'll just 444 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,320 give him one second to join up. I'm not 445 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,080 sure. Um, we're having a bit of trouble 446 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,080 hearing some of the uh council members, 447 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:54,470 so maybe that's part of the issue. 448 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,679 Yes. 449 00:24:55,679 --> 00:24:57,840 >> I just want to ask this has no 450 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,159 connection with chamber presentation. 451 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:04,159 >> I just wanted to know that before 452 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:06,000 because I know the chamber kind of 453 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,919 looking at things. So I wanted to make 454 00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:10,559 sure that it's a separate thing. 455 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:13,200 >> Yep. Yeah. 456 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:24,310 Maybe we'll direct them to the chamber. 457 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,760 I'm just gonna start and then hopefully 458 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,880 he'll join me in a second. But uh uh so 459 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,120 good afternoon Mr. Mayor and uh council 460 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,600 members. My name is Sher Tobin and Dave 461 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,120 Fluke, my partner, should be joining you 462 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,520 in a moment. Um together we make up 463 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Ontario 360 Tours. Um, Ontario 360 Tours 464 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,080 is a multilingual platform that's 465 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,960 designed to showcase the best of Ontario 466 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,600 and make travel planning easy uh via 467 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,480 immersive narrated 360°ree videos, 468 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,159 thereby creating more revenue for local 469 00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:56,880 tourism sectors. 470 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,240 I trust that you've all had a chance to 471 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,400 look over our proposal. Uh we're seeking 472 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,000 a partnership with the municipality of 473 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,760 northern Bruce Peninsula and the city of 474 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,880 Tobbery to produce a 360 degree video 475 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,679 showcasing key locations in Topberi uh 476 00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:11,200 with strong emphasis on extending the 477 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,159 shoulder season. Our proposal outlines 478 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:16,159 our direct task uh why immerse with 479 00:26:16,159 --> 00:26:18,559 360°ree videos are necessary to stay 480 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,799 ahead of the game and the key benefits 481 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:22,880 of this technology uh that this 482 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440 technology will bring the region. Our 483 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,200 inclusive feed does cover uh the 484 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,120 pre-production planning uh which 485 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,039 includes logistic coordination uh 486 00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:33,120 directly with your team professional 487 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,440 filming advanced video editing and uh 488 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,679 professional narration permanent hosting 489 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:39,279 on our website and YouTube channel will 490 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,080 also uh happen in per perpetuity and 491 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,679 strategic sharing across hundreds of 492 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:45,440 targeted Facebook groups various other 493 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,600 social media outlets and direct outreach 494 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,000 to local uh real estate agents to 495 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,840 showcase the region uh to prospective 496 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,320 buyers, travel agents uh just to name a 497 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,360 view of the areas that we do share and 498 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:00,720 um showcase across uh other Ontario 499 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,799 platforms. We do also reach out to other 500 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:04,720 Canadian platforms as well, bringing in 501 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,200 tourism from uh all sectors in Canada 502 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,760 and the US. Um, 503 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,000 and uh, so at this time I want to turn 504 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,360 it over to Dave who's going to take you 505 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:15,039 through uh, a little bit of a 506 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:16,559 walkthrough of our website and YouTube 507 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,080 channel just to explain a little bit 508 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,799 further uh, how it works and uh, what 509 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:22,880 the videos uh, look like and how they 510 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200 can benefit you. 511 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Um, he says his mic and cam isn't 512 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,080 working. Um, can you bear with us for 513 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:58,070 one second? 514 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,640 He's going to try another uh computer if 515 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,000 you give him one second. He's got that 516 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080 all rigged up. I do apologize for the 517 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:49,269 delay. 518 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:51,679 he is actually not able to join at all. 519 00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:57,110 So, uh I'm going to have to wing it. Um 520 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,559 what I wanted to do with share the 521 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,039 screen and have you uh sort of take you 522 00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,440 through what the um process is. So, 523 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,279 basically I'm not going to be able to do 524 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:08,640 that portion. Um what we do is we find 525 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,600 interesting places uh in Ontario, hidden 526 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,760 gems or places that people have asked us 527 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,399 to uh take do a video of and we will, 528 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:20,320 you know, go to that location, speak to 529 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,080 maybe it's a business owner or it's um a 530 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,919 municipality like yourselves. Uh we've 531 00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:28,640 done a couple of uh downtown tours uh 532 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,480 things like that and they're just 533 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,360 looking for um ways to promote their tourism and travel and get more 534 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,120 people through the shops and the 535 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,159 restaurants, hotels staying um as long 536 00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:42,720 as possible. And I do know that seeing 537 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,399 uh some of the information online that 538 00:29:44,399 --> 00:29:46,080 Tobber is also looking to extend their 539 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,240 shoulder season. So, I think that at 540 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640 this point it's a good time to um have 541 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,120 these videos uh up and running and have 542 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120 someone like us who's passionate about 543 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,039 not only Ontario but passionate about 544 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:58,799 the 360. We're passionate about the 545 00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,679 video and tourism in general. Um we do 546 00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:04,159 come up to Toba at least once a year. 547 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:06,240 So, this is a other part thing that 548 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,039 we're passionate about as well. Um and 549 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,679 then we would produce a video based on 550 00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:14,480 some of their um you know ideas and what 551 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,399 they want to portray. So in fact we 552 00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:18,799 would speaking to collaborating with you 553 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,320 we would um use the narration uh to 554 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,000 showcase exactly what you are your 555 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,120 mandates are. Um so we had um proposed 556 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,919 key two three key spots in Tobamorei but 557 00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:34,559 we're open to ideas to uh whatever else 558 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,960 you would like to have in that video or 559 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,200 it could be a couple of shorter videos 560 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,760 um show showcasing a few other things as 561 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,480 well. um whatever sort of you know your 562 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,640 mandate, your brand calls for and and 563 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,399 what you're trying to do with your city 564 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:50,799 as well. Um we work with you in that 565 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,120 respect and the narration um to cover 566 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,919 those key aspects. Um once the videos 567 00:30:55,919 --> 00:30:58,720 are done, we again host them on our 568 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,279 website on our YouTube channel and share 569 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,120 them around as much as possible. We 570 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,039 always have people asking us, you know, 571 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,440 can you share that video again? Um 572 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,399 what's a good place to go to uh in a 573 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,399 particular area? Recently, I've just 574 00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:14,080 seen three people in the last couple of 575 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,080 days ask uh what they could do in 576 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,600 between this spot and this spot that 577 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,120 they're traveling to. And so, that's 578 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,039 another uh key aspect of things that we 579 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,120 could offer. So, our site really helps 580 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,720 with travel planning, getting people 581 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,399 excited about where they're going to go 582 00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:28,320 and giving them more information before 583 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,279 they do go. 360 videos are are also a 584 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:33,360 good way for people to see exactly what 585 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,960 they're getting themselves into, so to 586 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,960 speak, and getting them excited about 587 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,279 being in that spot instead of just um 588 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,360 seeing maybe a few pictures online. It's 589 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600 really an immersive way to be there 590 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,120 without being there and get excited 591 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,440 about being there. Um, so we are asking 592 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,039 uh I guess I'll just wrap things up at 593 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,080 this point since we weren't able to do 594 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,200 the actual presentation, but um I know 595 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,760 that Toby is world reown for its peak 596 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,360 summer beauty, but the opportunity for 597 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,519 sustainable growth and extending the 598 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:04,480 momentum is is a real thing. And by 599 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,720 partnering with Ontario 360 tours, 600 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,399 you're also investing in modern 601 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:10,320 accessible tools that inspire off peak 602 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,000 travel that support your local 603 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,480 businesses and drive uh measurable 604 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,039 tourism as well. So you already think of 605 00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:18,799 our proposal. We're ready to hit the 606 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,519 ground running. Um all we ask is for 607 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,799 your um go ahead and we can uh turn out 608 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:26,880 the logistics of you know the 609 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,559 collaboration and how it's going to work 610 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,559 and when exactly you want to see in the 611 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,960 video uh in terms of what we've proposed 612 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,559 and what uh the city is needing to uh 613 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,640 align with their values and and core 614 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,840 goals. Thank you. 615 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,679 >> All right, Jerry. Thank you very much. 616 00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:45,200 Uh 617 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:51,029 any council comments, questions on this? 618 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,399 Uh yes. Yep. 619 00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:57,279 >> Well, I think that uh what what we are 620 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,679 more than to as a council. We are 621 00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:01,600 northern Bruce Peninsula 622 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320 >> and our local just so happens the 623 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,600 presentation before yours was from um 624 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,279 our local chamber of commerce which also 625 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,159 um involves the whole municipality. So 626 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:17,919 perhaps my thinking would be that your 627 00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:21,039 presentation would it could possibly go 628 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,279 to our chamber of commerce and they 629 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:25,519 could took a look at it. They are we're 630 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,600 they're funded through the map and 631 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,279 different things like that. So, um, 632 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,440 that's just my comment. 633 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,640 >> Appreciate that. 634 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,519 >> All right. Uh, if there's no comments or 635 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:40,240 other comments or questions, we will 636 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,919 turn it over to staff and I'm sure staff 637 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:45,200 will be talking with the chamber. So, 638 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,960 thank you very much, Sher. Appreciate 639 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,880 it. And I appreciate it. We 640 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,080 >> We'll be in touch. 641 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,600 >> Okay, that sounds great. Thank you so 642 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,320 much. 643 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:52,960 >> Thank you. 644 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,559 >> Have a fabulous day. 645 00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:01,430 >> You, too. 646 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600 Um 647 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,440 that concludes our delegations. 648 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,240 We will go to agenda items. Uh office uh 649 00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:13,359 CIO reports the uh six month performance 650 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:19,030 report January to June 2026. 651 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,440 Move in second to bring that forward in 652 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,510 a moment. 653 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,639 information report. Any questions, 654 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,750 comments 655 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,240 on the report? 656 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:38,983 Just uh how many uh emphasis 657 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:46,950 [clears throat] 658 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,320 just for this year, Mr. Mayor? 659 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:59,270 >> Yeah, just so far this year. Absolutely. 660 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,040 And while Alex's just looking at that 661 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,480 too, on page 11, it's 662 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,079 the 663 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,440 100% critical system uptime. What does 664 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,280 that mean? 665 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,880 Do you feel [laughter] comfortable? 666 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,359 >> I can answer that, Mr. Mayor. Um, it 667 00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:18,160 basically means that we had no lag 668 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,400 downtime within our facilities or 669 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,440 crucial infrastructure. So essentially 670 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,240 everything was running at 100%. 671 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,400 We had no time that we had to shut down 672 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,680 facilities or operations. 673 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,720 And the the other one was too uh we we 674 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:44,000 at uh or let's talk uh 675 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,440 what did it say there about we had 1100 676 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,560 and some 677 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:57,109 uh so wait 678 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,720 11:46 let's talk participation So is 679 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,680 that the total number we had respond in 680 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,560 last time? 681 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,079 >> Well, so that that's the total 682 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:07,839 participation of somebody who had logged 683 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:11,119 on. Uh we did have a very busy first 684 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:14,000 part of the year with the Capid 685 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,079 um road discussions and also the waste 686 00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:21,599 management and water management um 687 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:22,720 >> okay 688 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,200 >> discussions on there. So we did have a 689 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,040 very um busy first 6 months when it came 690 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,240 to resident engagement 691 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,720 >> with 1146 that's are those is that the 692 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,400 ones that responded or what 693 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,079 >> those are ones that have logged on to 694 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,960 the system 695 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,280 >> and it's a cumulative of those two 696 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,880 projects for the water wastewater and 697 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,480 the capid head. 698 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,599 >> Yeah. I thought there would have been 699 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,240 more, but 700 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,069 that's the number. 701 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,720 Um, 702 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,960 all right. Anyone else have any uh but 703 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,520 our social media and uh web page are 704 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560 getting lots of activity. 705 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,440 >> Yeah. Uh yeah, I just had a question about the 706 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,520 um the capital projects uh delivery 707 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,160 progress. So target was 85, actual was 708 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,520 28. Um is there any sort of reasons 709 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,440 behind that or is that sort of expected 710 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,079 schedule or 711 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:29,440 um it's it's really due to the fact that 712 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,320 this is from January to June. Um because 713 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,200 of the winter months, we actually won't 714 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,040 uh have anything started. So those are 715 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,760 actually completed projects. So based 716 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,119 upon the amount of time that uh we've 717 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:44,960 had good weather for construction, we're 718 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,320 actually really ahead of schedule. 719 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960 Unfortunately, the way the KPIs read, 720 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:56,069 you know, numbers are numbers. 721 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,520 » All right. Anything else, D? 722 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,200 >> One question and maybe you can answer 723 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,040 it, Peggy, is regarding building 724 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,359 permits. There was 133 applications and 725 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:11,520 only 116 issued. Those 17, did they just 726 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,800 decline to go through with them or they 727 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,720 just in the queue? 728 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,119 >> So those are the ones that were deemed 729 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,720 incomplete and so by the time that um 730 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,560 June had rolled around, they hadn't 731 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,160 actually been moved back into the 732 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,480 system. So we could actually see after 733 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,200 they, you know, come January that these 734 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,720 are all complete. Uh, one of the big um 735 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,359 items for the building department is to 736 00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:39,760 educate the public on what a complete 737 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,160 application looks like to hopefully move 738 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,640 those up to 100%. 739 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,829 >> Thank you, 740 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:49,839 » Peggy. I I have found what I was looking 741 00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,480 for actually finally. 742 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,200 Uh it's on page 10 and and it says the 743 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,280 let's talk uh platform received 4969 744 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,359 project views and 1146 contributions 745 00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:07,510 supporting meaningful public 746 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,359 so 747 00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:12,720 the 40 5,000 like that's the view that's 748 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,359 people that viewed the on the projects 749 00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:17,440 on let's talk. 750 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,079 >> Okay. 751 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:23,599 All right. Um one more 752 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,760 >> sorry just one more about um just the 753 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,640 operating budget variance um see till 754 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,440 now the action's 5.31% 755 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,680 um expecting that to stay stable till 756 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,680 the end of the year or there concerns 757 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,800 that it'll highire 758 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,480 >> we are assuming it will stay stable um 759 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,320 we are actually at an point right now 760 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,040 that we've just had another tax due date 761 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680 so we'll see an influx of of finances at 762 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,880 that point. We've also 763 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,640 uh I believe 85% of 85 to 87% of our 764 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,160 capital projects have been tender RFP. 765 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,240 So we are also aware that we're in 766 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:08,230 pretty good shape regarding the future. 767 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:12,630 » Correct. Yeah. 768 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,160 All right. Anything else? Uh 769 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,880 if not information report call the vote. 770 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,520 All in favor? Opposed? The motion's 771 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,720 carried. CEO, this is the presentation 772 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,950 that we had. 773 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,800 And I guess this is what I'm wondering 774 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,920 like he was talking about adopting this 775 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,440 report and this is for information. So 776 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,760 I'm just wondering. 777 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,440 >> So based upon the agreement, council has 778 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,560 to receive the Matt report. This 779 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,560 essentially is the chamber's strategic 780 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,839 plan for how they intend to move forward 781 00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:53,920 with the burn tax. 782 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,760 >> Um, and [clears throat] 783 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,800 based upon when we originally move 784 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,599 forward with the municipal accommodation 785 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:05,520 tax, it was our it was council's 786 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,599 decision to bake this almost as a 787 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,720 handsoff. So, you know, here's your 2%, 788 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,960 provide us a strategic plan, and we'll 789 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,480 move forward that way. and then we 790 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,160 wouldn't have to do any micro bandaging. 791 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,680 So according to the agreement um they we 792 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,640 do receive for information and 793 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,400 essentially they will adopt it on their 794 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,760 side. 795 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,400 >> Okay. 796 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,240 >> All right. So mover and secondary to 797 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:34,268 bring this uh Smokey and Todd. 798 00:41:34,268 --> 00:41:37,109 [clears throat] 799 00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,079 So when we when we look at this do do we 800 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:44,160 look at to see whether it complies with 801 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,720 legislation or or what we anticipate it 802 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,079 should be. 803 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:53,200 >> Yes. So in the agreement that uh we 804 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,560 provided to the chamber there was a 805 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,760 request for this funding to be for 806 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,319 tourism based but also for events and 807 00:42:04,319 --> 00:42:08,560 for to become sewn for init for various 808 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,079 businesses and initiatives and that's 809 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,160 what this has [laughter] helped out 810 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,079 with. 811 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,880 So just to clarify, so we we this is 812 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,160 hands off for us. 813 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,800 >> We do have one member of council that is 814 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440 a representative for the municipality on 815 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:34,240 the chamber and then they do attend on a monthly basis. Um but yes, this is a 816 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,240 handsoff type of 817 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,200 >> but we did request this, right? This 818 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,599 >> this a strategic plan was part of the 819 00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:42,960 agreement. Yeah, 820 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200 >> for council to see how they would 821 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,800 actually invest or use the Matt tax. But 822 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,520 we have actually included within the 823 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,920 agreement also that what the intent was 824 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,760 on the municipal side when it came to um 825 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,839 seed money for events, potential tourism 826 00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:07,920 initiatives and that's what this has 827 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,440 brought forward on. 828 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,550 Okay. 829 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,880 Anybody have anything else to add? 830 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,079 Nobody call a vote. Uh, all in favor? 831 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:26,930 Motion carried. [clears throat] 832 00:43:26,930 --> 00:43:27,680 [snorts] 833 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:35,589 Procedure bylaw. Clerk's department. 834 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:37,040 The council direct staff to bring 835 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,040 forward an updated bylaw to govern the 836 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,640 proceedings of council and committee 837 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,960 meetings of the corporation of the 838 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,470 county of Bruce. 839 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,319 Todd 840 00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:52,790 Rod 841 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,095 any questions on procedure bylaw? 842 00:43:55,095 --> 00:43:56,800 [clears throat] 843 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,280 Alex, do you want to give us any 844 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,960 comments on this wonder? 845 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,960 >> Uh, sure. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, just 846 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,920 an update to the procedural bylaw here. 847 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,319 Um, so we've just added a lot more 848 00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:10,319 detail to certain sections. Um, 849 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:11,760 specifically, you'll see that the 850 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,240 meeting section is a lot more um 851 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:18,079 emboldened for different scenarios um in 852 00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:22,160 terms of inclement weather and um with 853 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,480 regards to virtual participation and 854 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,720 virtual meetings. So, the report does 855 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,400 sort of go over the sections that have 856 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,839 been um sort of added to a couple of 857 00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:34,480 small changes to the agenda format as 858 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,319 well. Um but other than that, we're just 859 00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:40,480 looking at a little bit more detail for 860 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,720 uh this updated procedural bylaw and I'm 861 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:46,079 happy to answer any questions. 862 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,520 >> All right, [clears throat] 863 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,800 » go ahead, Smokey. Yeah, go ahead. 864 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,520 >> Well, I just have a question. 865 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,920 Uh it says uh 866 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,400 something to do with lucky binder here. 867 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,079 Uh 868 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:05,599 persons uh with the council within the 869 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,560 council horseshoe that just means the 870 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,839 council itself. Okay. Yeah. just had I 871 00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:15,006 just had a clear 872 00:45:15,006 --> 00:45:17,829 [laughter] 873 00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:18,640 » totally fair. 874 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,430 >> Yes. 875 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,440 » Yeah. And on page 23 and 24 it lists all 876 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,319 of the motions and 877 00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:32,079 they're 878 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,920 we'll probably need Alex's assistance on 879 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,079 they've always been but they are 880 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:38,640 >> Yes. 881 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,520 >> Yeah. 882 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,880 >> Absolutely. Mr. Mayor, I'm always happy 883 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,589 to help. 884 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:48,880 » Any further questions? 885 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,640 So, it's good to have an updated bylaw 886 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,280 and appreciate the work that you've gone 887 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,800 into this one. So, thank you. Yeah, 888 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,880 sorry. Um, just explain why we've um 889 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,960 decided to sort of um prohibit the 890 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,800 public and media from recording 891 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200 meetings. We're recording them anyways. 892 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,040 I mean I don't don't see why it would be 893 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,520 an issue for someone else to record. 894 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,119 >> Yeah, that's a totally fair question and 895 00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:14,319 we actually had a little bit of a 896 00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:15,920 discussion about that. So the reasoning 897 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,839 behind it is because we do live stream 898 00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:19,280 the meeting. So there is a recording 899 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,880 that's publicly available. Um and it the 900 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,720 recordings are managed by the clerk's 901 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,079 department as a record of the 902 00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:29,359 corporation. Um so we want to be able to 903 00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:30,800 manage that and make sure that there's 904 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,000 no issues with um you know when we're in 905 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,680 and out of a closed meeting or something 906 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,440 like that. we have a little bit more 907 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,359 we're monitoring what we're recording um 908 00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:45,430 and they are available to the public. So 909 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,520 » it just why like you know like if 910 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,160 someone like the media was here like why 911 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160 would they restrict them from like just 912 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,760 recording if they only wanted to record 913 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,520 you know like a particular portion of 914 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,960 discussion 915 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,800 >> just be an issue? Mhm. Um like for 916 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,079 somebody to sit in on a meeting and 917 00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:04,560 record with their cell phone. Um I think 918 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,240 it it's more managing managing that and 919 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,880 because it is available already through 920 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,520 what we do with our live streaming. Um I 921 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,280 think if council wanted us to allow 922 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200 people to come in and record, we could 923 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,359 if that's what the discussion is. We 924 00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:21,359 just thought it might be a little bit 925 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:26,630 better to manage that. 926 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,720 So just on that note is what is the 927 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:32,480 usual procedure 928 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,160 >> for meeting recordings? Yes. 929 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,520 >> Um so our deputy clerk gets set up with 930 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,839 our different systems. So we have a 931 00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:41,680 couple of different platforms that we 932 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,480 use um and the meeting is live streamed 933 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,040 in real time um through box cap. 934 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,760 >> Yeah. But other other municipalities how 935 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,760 do they handle say if someone wants to 936 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,440 sit in your crowd and record? So if if 937 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,520 our procedural bylaw prohibits it and we 938 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,839 saw somebody in the crowd recording the 939 00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:01,920 meeting, then the chair of the meeting 940 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,240 would say, "Sorry, we don't allow that." 941 00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:05,920 Um, and then if it became an issue where 942 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,400 they continued to record, we could ask 943 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,440 them to leave. 944 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,359 >> But in other municipalities, is that a 945 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:13,520 standard? Is that a standard in their 946 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,400 zoning by? 947 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,040 >> From what I was looking at, it varies. 948 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,720 So a lot of the bylaws that I was 949 00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,960 looking at, it's it it varies across 950 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,640 municipalities. So, I wouldn't say 951 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,960 there's a gold standard. Um, same thing 952 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,559 with live streaming meetings. Not all 953 00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,640 municipalities actually live stream and 954 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,880 record. 955 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,950 >> Okay. [clears throat] 956 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,839 » Or 957 00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:39,839 I'm just not sure how I feel about 958 00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,870 restricting 959 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,520 public meeting. Uh so I just have my 960 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:53,109 notes here but I find 961 00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:57,440 yeah so it's page 10 of the report. 962 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,040 >> So let me see here. 963 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,720 Okay. So, what we if council would like 964 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,440 what we could look at is allowing it. 965 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,680 Um, 966 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,680 and if it becomes inappropriate, we 967 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,480 could maybe manage it. Um, like if it 968 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,280 becomes a distraction. 969 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,800 Um, 970 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,480 but we could we could change that if 971 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,680 that's what council would like us to do. 972 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,280 Our current procedural bylaw doesn't 973 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,440 address this, I don't think. 974 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,960 >> So, 975 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,359 um, what what number is that? So it's 976 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:33,040 5.55 977 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:46,309 at the bottom of 978 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:50,240 5.54 at the bottom of page 10. 5.55. 979 00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:53,119 Okay. 980 00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:58,230 Oh, 981 00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:07,589 okay. 982 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:12,480 All right. Um, whatever. 983 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,680 >> I tend to agree with Aman in that we're 984 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,599 open. We're the public. Uh, if anybody 985 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:21,520 will probably says things they 986 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,319 shouldn't, it would be me. But, uh, I 987 00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:26,000 mean, we're open to the public. I have 988 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,559 no problem with people recording the 989 00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:32,400 meeting or whatever. It's just the way it's 990 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,640 written here. It kind of looks like 991 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,760 we're um editing or something. I don't 992 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,200 know. Anyway, I I don't think it's 993 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,359 necessary. 994 00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:48,470 So, you feel like majority guilt. 995 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,880 » I I don't have a problem with it. I I 996 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,480 think this maybe hearkens back to the 997 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,079 day of the big lights and the guy with 998 00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:59,440 right when that would be obnoxious, but 999 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,440 nowadays it's all done on cell phones. 1000 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,680 It's not not a problem. 1001 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,000 >> It may be being done anyway, I guess. 1002 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,280 Well, people are here. So, 1003 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,400 all right. Uh if it's the general 1004 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,079 feeling of council, it sounds like it 1005 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,599 is, but we will reboot that to 1006 00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:20,559 >> I will change that and it'll be in the 1007 00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:23,599 um would council like to see another 1008 00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:25,440 version of it before passing it at the 1009 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,200 next meeting or we can change it and go 1010 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,720 ahead. Okay, 1011 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:30,240 >> I we just change it. 1012 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:30,559 >> Okay, 1013 00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:31,440 >> go ahead. 1014 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,720 >> That's great. No problem. 1015 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,040 >> So, how do you want the motion to read? 1016 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,480 Um well, it sounded like councelor Sorab 1017 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,359 moved an amendment to the motion 1018 00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:46,559 to um amend section 5.55 to permit um 1019 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,000 recording. So if we had a seconder, 1020 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,680 >> that's great. And then a vote on the 1021 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,319 amendment. 1022 00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:55,040 >> On the amendment 1023 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,319 and uh Alex has kind of given us the 1024 00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:01,440 wording. So all in favor? 1025 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,680 >> Perfect. and then we'll go back to the 1026 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,400 original motion as amended. Call a vote. 1027 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,880 All in favor? Opposed? The motion's 1028 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,910 carried. 1029 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,720 All right. Um, next [clears throat] is 1030 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,599 item B, clerk's department is concerns 1031 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,640 at Hobson Harbor Drive. And we heard 1032 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,480 last meeting about this. 1033 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,559 So, the council receives the report 1034 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,440 C2624 concerns at Hopson's Harbor Drive 1035 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,079 for information. Move it. Second. 1036 00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:37,839 Uh, Rod, I'm on. 1037 00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:42,240 Any questions, comments on this Todd? 1038 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,599 I just have a comment and I spoke to 1039 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:49,440 Chief Bird about this earlier. I just 1040 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,200 feel that we need to be maybe uh part of 1041 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,599 our response 1042 00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:59,359 is that we have to uh be more proactive 1043 00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:02,319 with fires smart the fires smart 1044 00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:05,920 program. I was looking into it on on the 1045 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,480 weekend and maybe that could be part of 1046 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,760 our response to Joe is um may I know we 1047 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640 are doing it but maybe we need to to 1048 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,760 step it up with the way everything is 1049 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,880 changing how dry the peninsula is. I 1050 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,920 think we have to be a lot more proactive 1051 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,040 and promote promoted even more than what 1052 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,790 we already are. 1053 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,480 give Jack an opportunity, our fire 1054 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,319 chief, an opportunity to do this. 1055 00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:38,400 >> Yes, thank you, counselor. Um, the fires 1056 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,160 smart program is a great program and 1057 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,760 we've been promoting this for a few 1058 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,559 years here in Northern Bruce Peninsula 1059 00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,160 and we continue to promote it and I 1060 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,440 agree with you. I think it can be 1061 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,400 promoted more and get the message out. 1062 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,640 Uh there's uh great opportunities for 1063 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,880 homeowners with apps like the Fires 1064 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,480 Smart Begins at home app where they can 1065 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,240 go and do a self assessment of their 1066 00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:02,720 home. Um the firesmartcanada.ca CA 1067 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:04,559 website has a tremendous amount of 1068 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:06,559 resources and it's something that we'll 1069 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:08,400 continue to push for fire prevention 1070 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,440 here on the peninsula. 1071 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,640 >> That's not going to turn my machine on 1072 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,960 as it does this. So, 1073 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,319 >> at any rate, we have uh is there any way 1074 00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:23,680 that we can influence some of the larger 1075 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,800 land owners? Uh we have federal parks. 1076 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,200 We have a lot of property on the Bruce 1077 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,800 Peninsula under conservation. that to 1078 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,240 the best of my knowledge. Uh so we're 1079 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,839 asking private land owners to look after 1080 00:54:39,839 --> 00:54:42,640 their property probably a lot smaller 1081 00:54:42,640 --> 00:55:18,630 when we have 1082 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,359 It it's a good comment counselor. Um a 1083 00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:22,960 lot of those areas we don't have 1084 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,400 jurisdiction whether it's provincial 1085 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,240 land or federal land uh from the 1086 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:27,680 municipal fire department. We try to 1087 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,480 work with our partners to ensure that uh 1088 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,079 they are being fires smart. Um 1089 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,000 but it is difficult on a lot of those 1090 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,680 lands. The fires smart program is really 1091 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,839 designed for the homeowner in mind, 1092 00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:43,520 right? So, it's the embers that 1093 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,680 typically cause the fires that we've all 1094 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,240 seen on the news in large urban uh 1095 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:50,319 wildland urban interface areas where the 1096 00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:52,880 embers can travel literally kilometers 1097 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,599 ahead of fires and land in areas and 1098 00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:57,839 start those areas on fire. So, this is 1099 00:55:57,839 --> 00:55:59,359 more this program is more about 1100 00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:02,240 protecting individual properties and 1101 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:05,200 communities as opposed to those larger 1102 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,040 federal, provincial, and nature 1103 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,280 reserves. But those are conversations 1104 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,240 that my team um continues to have to 1105 00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,400 make sure that we can protect uh the 1106 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,240 peninsula from a forest fire. 1107 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,240 >> Well, yes, because you can't turn on the 1108 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:21,440 TV and we're seeing fires in places that 1109 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,240 never were had them before. like there 1110 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,440 isn't I don't think there's any road map 1111 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,280 that anybody could ever predict. So I 1112 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,599 guess we're just sitting here with no 1113 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,599 impact 1114 00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,880 on on this or do you see any way forward 1115 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,440 that uh we as a municipality could um 1116 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,839 have an impact on on some of these 1117 00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:48,799 policies that you know are in our area? 1118 00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:50,559 >> It's a good question. And I think uh 1119 00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:52,000 continuing the lines of communication 1120 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,960 with our partners and trying to find 1121 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,760 solutions that can help protect um the 1122 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,440 broader community from wildfire is 1123 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,160 something we need to continue to do. 1124 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,079 >> For sure. 1125 00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,000 Okay. Thank you, G. I understand our 1126 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,990 limitations. 1127 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,079 » All right. Uh, [clears throat] 1128 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,720 so maybe we can 1129 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,319 Todd suggest that maybe we 1130 00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:22,480 that could be a response that we give 1131 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:28,069 Joe. 1132 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:32,160 All right. And so we'll call the vote. 1133 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,720 So do you want that recorded or just 1134 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,950 direction? 1135 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,119 » I think so. Council would like to give 1136 00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:43,839 direction on this. Sorry. 1137 00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:46,720 >> Yes. That was the uh I guess is there 1138 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,559 kind of a general consensus before we go 1139 00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,400 down that road or Yeah. 1140 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,280 >> Okay. Um I think I think the motion is 1141 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,240 okay as is and we're happy to we've been 1142 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,119 regularly speaking with Mr. Roach. So 1143 00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:00,960 >> um we're happy to relay that information 1144 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:01,520 to him. 1145 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,559 >> Call a vote. All in favor? 1146 00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:07,119 The motion carried. 1147 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,839 Public works. 1148 00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:13,910 Item A, public works. 1149 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,040 And uh 1150 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,359 this is a project on Judges Creek and 1151 00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:23,990 it's farm crossing. 1152 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,880 It's been looked at by the engineer and 1153 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,549 the whole act. So 1154 00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,390 and approve 1155 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,880 proceed with the project. So, we'll get 1156 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,520 a mover in second here on this one here. 1157 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,589 Uh, Todd and Rodend, 1158 00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:48,079 » pardon me, 1159 00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,000 >> the drainage superintendent. 1160 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,839 >> Okay, Stephen. Is it Steve? Steve. Yeah. 1161 00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:55,280 >> All right. So, if there's any questions, 1162 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,440 we have the uh drainage superintendent 1163 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,000 online, Steve Kobe. 1164 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,079 Welcome, Steve. 1165 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,720 >> Thank you. 1166 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,079 So, uh, just give us a brief update or 1167 00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:09,920 Yeah, just give us a brief overview of 1168 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,839 this, uh, Steve. 1169 00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:15,119 >> Sure. Thank you very much. 1170 00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:19,280 Um, so this is a minor improvement 1171 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,680 request uh for a new farm crossing on 1172 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,319 Mr. Waggle's property. Um, through the 1173 00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:28,640 drainage act, uh, there's now what's 1174 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,760 called a minor improvement uh, request. 1175 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,240 So that's uh mostly minor projects such 1176 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,119 as this. So when a property owner 1177 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,319 requires a new uh in this case a new 1178 00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:46,319 culvert um we can go through um a faster 1179 00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:48,319 um process through the drainage act to 1180 00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:50,079 incorporate that culvert into the 1181 00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:54,559 municipal drain. Um the one caveat is um 1182 00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:57,520 the property owner pays for the 1183 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,720 installation of the culvert himself and 1184 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,000 uh as well as the any any costs that are 1185 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,480 incurred to incorporate this into the 1186 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,920 municipal drain. So again, Mr. WGO 1187 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,559 requested a new farm crossing is p 1188 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:15,920 primarily due to um accessing the other 1189 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,440 side of his property um which he was 1190 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440 always accessing it through another 1191 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,920 property which that agreement came to an 1192 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,680 end. So he requested a a new culvert on 1193 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,359 uh branch E of the of the Judges Creek 1194 01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:34,240 municipal drain. So we've uh we were 1195 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,000 Kobite engineering was appointed in the 1196 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,440 fall of 2025. We've reviewed uh the 1197 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,119 request um met with Mr. Waggle on site. 1198 01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:46,000 Um we've gone through the all the 1199 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,880 appropriate agencies review agencies. Uh 1200 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,240 number one is the Department of 1201 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,680 Fisheries and Oceans. They've reviewed 1202 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,240 it. Uh they've uh they've uh submitted a 1203 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,880 letter of advice to us that uh we can 1204 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,000 proceed with the work. Uh we did u 1205 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,319 design the covert, check the capacity. 1206 01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:06,640 Now Mr. Wag is uh supplying the pipe 1207 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,359 himself and will be doing the work 1208 01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:12,720 probably on his own which uh we can 1209 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,400 oversee. 1210 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,880 Um and he's all I think he's ready to 1211 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,720 go. So this is the the last little item 1212 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,400 on our uh the minor improvement drain 1213 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,119 request um to approve the report that we 1214 01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:30,400 prepared in support of it. And uh if it 1215 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,520 gets approved by council, Mr. WGO can um 1216 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,160 proceed with the work after I believe 1217 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,359 it's a 10day appeals period which uh Mr. 1218 01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:46,880 WGO can appeal appeal this um or uh if not after 10 days he can go we can go 1219 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,119 ahead with the work. So again I believe 1220 01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:50,160 Mr. 1221 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,599 will be uh wanting to do it himself and 1222 01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:56,640 if he does that then these uh these 1223 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,839 projects are or can qualify for math or 1224 01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:02,559 grants but if he does it by on his own 1225 01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:04,640 then he won't be entitled to that 1226 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,400 one-third grant um but again since he's 1227 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,240 supplying a majority of the materials um 1228 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,680 I don't think that'll be a problem for 1229 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,440 him so that's concludes my report 1230 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,480 >> thank you Steve So engineering the 1231 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,040 engineering cost associated with this 1232 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,799 who pays for that? 1233 01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:26,480 >> Mr. Waggle. 1234 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,319 >> Okay. 1235 01:02:28,319 --> 01:02:28,640 >> Yeah. 1236 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,000 >> Good. Yep. 1237 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,720 So but the Steve you mentioned a oneird 1238 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,640 like the oneird 1239 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:41,280 >> grant. So just so are we entitled to 1240 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,160 that or who's entitled to that? Um if we 1241 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,319 went just like any other uh project we 1242 01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:51,440 do um well Mafford does have grants for work for properties that qualify for 1243 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,720 the farm tax credit um which Mr. Waggo's 1244 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,640 property does and um if we so in this 1245 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,559 case if we did go through the miss 1246 01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:02,480 valley's procurement policy so we just 1247 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,000 tendered this work out and uh it came 1248 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,960 back um and that's really the the one 1249 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,280 stipulation through a maf grant program 1250 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,319 that it just satisi satisfies the 1251 01:03:14,319 --> 01:03:18,640 municipalities procurement policy. So 1252 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,319 since Mr. Wagle wants to do the work 1253 01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:22,720 himself we'll be uh not going through 1254 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,799 that process. So it won't qualify for 1255 01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:27,558 this one-third grant. So again, he's 1256 01:03:27,558 --> 01:03:29,119 [clears throat] he's supplying the pipe 1257 01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:32,000 himself, which is the biggest cost. So 1258 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,920 >> I think we want to opt for that option. 1259 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,599 >> Yep. 1260 01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,000 All right. Any further questions on that 1261 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,480 one. 1262 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,319 >> Thank you, Steve. 1263 01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:45,839 >> Thank you. 1264 01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:49,200 >> And so we have a mover and second on the 1265 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,920 report. So we will call a vote. All in 1266 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,520 favor? 1267 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,230 Motion carried. 1268 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,359 Building department. Uh this is uh 1269 01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:07,039 lifting a holding zone by uh 1270 01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:11,280 Josh Lions and J Milhausen at 590 log 53 1271 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,960 municipality of Northern Ris Peninsula 1272 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,359 be approved. Over and second for that. 1273 01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:19,910 I'm on and Rod. 1274 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,200 Any questions on this one? 1275 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,839 Call a vote. All in favor? 1276 01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:29,920 Opposed? The motion carried. And this is 1277 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,599 the further to that to the report above 1278 01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:35,440 and it's no demand for service agreement 1279 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,240 on the same lot. Second for that 1280 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,880 Smokeoky and Todd [gasps] 1281 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,240 call about all in favor. 1282 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,814 The motion carried. 1283 01:04:46,814 --> 01:04:48,079 [clears throat and cough] 1284 01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:50,559 Item C, 10, trailer exemption 1285 01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:54,549 explanation 1286 01:04:54,559 --> 01:05:00,789 and council receives this report. 1287 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:03,039 Second, for that one, 1288 01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:04,799 right? 1289 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:07,039 Uh, Emily is not here. Any comment, 1290 01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:11,109 Peggy, on this? 1291 01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:14,000 » Uh, no. This is actually um in response 1292 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,319 to the delegation request that was 1293 01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:19,440 cancelled today. Yeah. All right. Any 1294 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,799 further questions, comments? 1295 01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:25,680 Call the vote. All in favor? 1296 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,440 All miss the motion carried. 1297 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,839 Fire department 1298 01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:34,319 and the council waves section 52 in 1299 01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:37,200 formal quotation purchases 30 30,000 to 1300 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,200 60,000 of bylaw 2023-38 1301 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,839 purchasing policy. 1302 01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:45,359 And the council authorized the fire 1303 01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:46,799 chief to enter into an agreement with 1304 01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:49,680 the air technology 1305 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:54,069 for $48,94 1306 01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,039 and0 plus HST for the lane head fire 1307 01:05:57,039 --> 01:05:59,440 hole and [clears throat] 1308 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,140 $40,641 1309 01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:02,799 [snorts] 1310 01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:09,670 0 plus HST for the domary fire hole. 1311 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,880 Move a second here for that one. brought 1312 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,150 Todd 1313 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,039 Ch just the question is this proven tech 1314 01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:21,280 is this proven are there other places 1315 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,799 have this or 1316 01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:24,240 >> yes there is there's a number of other 1317 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,839 departments in gray and Bruce County 1318 01:06:25,839 --> 01:06:27,599 that have used similar units I've gone 1319 01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:29,200 and had a look at them and it does meet 1320 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,920 the requirements outlined um in the 1321 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,000 Ministry of Labor Immigration Training 1322 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,839 and Skills Developments um occupational 1323 01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:40,130 um cancer prevention checklist uh and 1324 01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:41,520 [clears throat] it's considerably 1325 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,720 cheaper than um the drops the GSC that 1326 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,520 hook up to tail pipes. Uh and this is an 1327 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,520 Ontario made solution. I haven't been 1328 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:50,960 able to find another one that would 1329 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,359 match it. There was one in California 1330 01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:55,039 but didn't meet the specifications that 1331 01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:00,470 we were looking for uh with this model. 1332 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,366 » Right. Rod, just give me a brief 1333 01:07:04,366 --> 01:07:07,200 [snorts] sort of visual 1334 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,160 detail or what's it look like? How's it 1335 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,359 working? Yeah, 1336 01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:13,359 >> I'll do my best to draw you a picture 1337 01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:13,680 here. 1338 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,599 >> Draw me a picture. Use your thousand 1339 01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:16,880 words. 1340 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,280 >> Yeah. So instead of uh individual runs 1341 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,440 that we typically see that would uh 1342 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,599 track with a vehicle coming out of the 1343 01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,039 fireh hall, this would be like an air 1344 01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:27,920 handling unit that is not on a roof but 1345 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,240 actually in the fire hall itself in the 1346 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,960 ceiling level sucks all the air in all 1347 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,799 the contaminants and has a filtration 1348 01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:37,039 system that captures 1349 01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:38,720 um the diesel exhaust and harmful 1350 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,079 chemicals associated with it and then um 1351 01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:46,240 provides clean air as a as um like 1352 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,520 turnover. over in order to meet the 1353 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,200 requirements for the diesel exhaust 1354 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,640 extraction. 1355 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,640 >> So there must there is some sort of 1356 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,520 monitor CO monitor something that yeah 1357 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:56,640 associated with that. 1358 01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:01,200 >> Yeah, there's a CO monitor um HCN that 1359 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,640 type of stuff associated with it as 1360 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,640 well. 1361 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,200 >> So just on that until it gets to the 1362 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,359 ceiling, 1363 01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:11,440 excuse me, it's in the building, right? 1364 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,359 Um, 1365 01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:16,400 yes, but it creates um such a flow that 1366 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,319 it draws it all up in very quickly. So, 1367 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:19,839 as soon as the vehicle starts, it's 1368 01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:21,199 going to draw it up in and then it's 1369 01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:22,960 constantly running in the background 1370 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,159 where it's drawing that um particulate 1371 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:28,159 in. So, it's not capturing it right at 1372 01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:31,040 the exhaust pipe per se, but it is 1373 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:36,719 removing it at um extremely fast pace in 1374 01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:38,480 order to meet the requirements. So there 1375 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:41,120 is no diesel exhaust uh left within the 1376 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:41,920 building. 1377 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,600 >> Yeah. My only comment was I didn't want 1378 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,120 to be the first one with this 1379 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,279 assistance. [laughter] 1380 01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:48,239 But 1381 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:49,759 >> that's why I went and had a look at some 1382 01:08:49,759 --> 01:08:51,279 of the other departments that had it to 1383 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:52,640 make sure that it would meet our needs 1384 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,480 and and work well for us. 1385 01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:58,719 >> Yeah. Smokey. Oh, well, anything I mean 1386 01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:00,799 these people are, you know, protecting 1387 01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:04,080 us, but and probably already know this, 1388 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,520 but have we looked at any kind of 1389 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,359 funding because it seems like like we're 1390 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:10,319 a pretty small municipality and the 1391 01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:13,440 amount that it's costing our taxpayers 1392 01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:17,520 directly to provide uh you know what is 1393 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,839 mandated, not only mandated, but that's 1394 01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:23,440 for firefighters. Um, so nobody is 1395 01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:26,319 providing any type of funding. uh to 1396 01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:29,040 offset our cost on this. 1397 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,799 >> Not directly associated with this 1398 01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:32,480 project, but the um provincial 1399 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:33,920 government has come out with the it's 1400 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,319 the third year now of the Ontario uh 1401 01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,000 firefighter protection grant that deals 1402 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:43,359 with some um cancer related um 1403 01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:45,839 materials. So, we've bought washers and 1404 01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:48,000 dryers, extractors, 1405 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,920 uh coveralls, stuff of that nature to 1406 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,440 help reduce some of the exposure, some 1407 01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:52,880 of the other things that we're seeing in 1408 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,280 this cancer prevention checklist. uh but 1409 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,679 not so much this larger infrastructure 1410 01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:00,080 capital project piece. 1411 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,560 >> So it has it has limits which doesn't 1412 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,120 include it. 1413 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,199 >> That's too bad. 1414 01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,280 Thank you. 1415 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,760 >> Okay. Um 1416 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,000 further comments 1417 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,000 call a vote. All in favor? 1418 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,868 Motion carried. 1419 01:10:20,868 --> 01:10:23,990 [clears throat] 1420 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,320 Uh next we go to committee minutes. Uh 1421 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,400 drainage committee and greybur 1422 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,120 detachment board. 1423 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,440 Any comments, questions on any of those? 1424 01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:37,440 Uh Rod? 1425 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:40,080 Uh just one. I think we did get a letter 1426 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,000 about this too and it was to do with 1427 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,640 that uh 1428 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,400 the angle ditch from the Bruce Peninsula 1429 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,239 biosphere thing. We just have a brief uh 1430 01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:54,560 Mr. Rogers noticed that he canoed a good 1431 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,600 portion blah blah blah. Is he any sort 1432 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,840 of talk about that Todd or 1433 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,679 >> Steve or is Steve aware of it or or John 1434 01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:05,520 more so? 1435 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,640 >> Steve would be John. Steve and John 1436 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,840 would be I know the Engle ditch is in 1437 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,199 South Bruce Peninsula. 1438 01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,239 >> Yeah. I think that was the concern that 1439 01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:20,560 it was going to put more water into the uh 1440 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:21,040 >> Judge Creek. 1441 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,400 Yeah. Yeah, 1442 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,880 >> in theory. Um, it's coming in anyway 1443 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,760 because that's where the spring is from 1444 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,000 what I understand. Troy could probably 1445 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,360 answer that as well. 1446 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,760 >> Yeah, thank you, Councelor. 1447 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,360 Yes, it is. It's the same amount of 1448 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,600 water going. Uh, so what the what the 1449 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,199 project was was was re not rrooting 1450 01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,600 putting the the the stream back to the 1451 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,080 same place that it was originally. So 1452 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,920 the water still come out into the same 1453 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,280 area uh except this this time now 1454 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:58,880 they're putting it back to to where it 1455 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,640 originally was instead of diverting it 1456 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,239 and bringing it back in. So it's the 1457 01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:04,800 same amount of flow. is just 1458 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,360 concentrating in the in the one area 1459 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,040 upstream of where the uh um where the 1460 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,800 letter come in for a response of a 1461 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,440 concern for that. So it's uh the 1462 01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:17,440 quantity of water is still the same. 1463 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:18,880 It's just bringing it back to the 1464 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,120 original uh flow. 1465 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,760 >> All right. Uh if there is no further 1466 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,960 questions on on those two we'll go to 1467 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,189 correspondence. 1468 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:37,520 Anything on those information 1469 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,640 other business? 1470 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,550 Anyone have other business? 1471 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,520 » Just to add to what we talked about 1472 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,400 earlier since we have Chief Bert in the 1473 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,400 room. Do we want to direct the fire 1474 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,960 department to come up with measures to 1475 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,679 be more proactive with the fire smart 1476 01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:02,880 program? We talked about it today, but I 1477 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,920 don't know necessarily that we did any 1478 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,149 direction regarding that. 1479 01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:15,590 » What would that mean, Jack? 1480 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,375 But I think it depends on how 1481 01:13:18,375 --> 01:13:19,600 [clears throat] far council would like 1482 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,560 to to take a program like this. Um 1483 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,239 whether it's boots on the ground, going 1484 01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:25,679 out in the community and actually 1485 01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:28,719 assessing properties or continuing with 1486 01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:31,040 public education and pushing the message 1487 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,679 out there uh with current staffing 1488 01:13:33,679 --> 01:13:35,760 levels to 1489 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,480 um you know maintain our public 1490 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:42,320 education um levels, but probably 1491 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,719 looking at increasing the amount of 1492 01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:46,880 information we're putting out. So I 1493 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,400 think it would depend on um different 1494 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,159 options and what that would look like, 1495 01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:55,120 >> right? 1496 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,040 >> Yeah. That was that's more the lines 1497 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:58,880 that I was thinking of public education 1498 01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,400 more than boots on the ground. 1499 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:06,719 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we do that now. We we can do that. 1500 01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:09,199 >> We we do uh we'll attempt to do more and 1501 01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:11,360 include um yeah more fires smart 1502 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,960 education materials with our public 1503 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,080 education. 1504 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,750 >> Okay. 1505 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:22,159 Um, any other business? 1506 01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:24,531 If not, we'll go to bylaws. 1507 01:14:24,531 --> 01:14:26,320 [clears throat] 1508 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,560 And bylaw 2026-61 1509 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,400 is a bylaw to appoint citizens to the 1510 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,000 Bruce County joint compliance audit 1511 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,480 committee for the 202630 1512 01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:37,440 term of council. 1513 01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:40,880 And bylaw 2026-62 1514 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,400 is uh a bylaw to delegate certain powers 1515 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,120 and duties during the lame duck period 1516 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,840 in 2026 1517 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,760 and 2026-63 1518 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:56,719 is a bylaw holding zone on plan 590 lot 1519 01:14:56,719 --> 01:14:59,840 533 Eagle Road within the municipality 1520 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,360 of northern ris peninsula and number 1521 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:08,390 26-64 is a confirmatory bylaw. 1522 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,590 Recommendation 1523 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,840 is that the list of bylaws be given a 1524 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,360 first, second, and third reading and 1525 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,560 finally passed. Move by Todd. Move by 1526 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,960 second by Rod. 1527 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,560 Any questions on the bylaws? Call a 1528 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,520 vote. All in favor? Opposed? The motion 1529 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,280 carried. Motion to adjurnn. Smoke it. 1530 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,480 And come on. All in favor. Motion 1531 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:39,110 carried. 1532 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,719 Thank you everyone. Council is 1533 01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:43,719 adjourned.