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Good afternoon.

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Thank you.

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That's one.

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So,

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You're advising

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bylaw amendment. for a property at 220

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Tamarak Road. The applicant is proposing

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to sever three new lots from the

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property and the zoning bylaw amendment

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is required to reduce the minimum

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frontage for those lots. Uh the proposed

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lots are going to be approximately 0.42

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42 hectares or 4200 square meters which

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is about an acre and the proposed

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frontage is going to be approximately

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31.91

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m on Walter Charman Drive.

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Um

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the zoning bylaw requires a minimum

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frontage of 35 m.

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Um, so we'll quickly go over the

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policies that are applicable in Oh,

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there we go. Um, that are applicable in

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this in this uh proposal. Um, the

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applicant completed an environmental

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impact study, an archaeological

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assessment, and a lock grading um plan

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to support this application.

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So, the county official plan designates

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the property as rural, recreational, and

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hazard. Um the designation identifies

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areas that are typically within close

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proximity to recreational amenities like

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the waterfront or shoreline um and where

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development has already occurred or

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smaller communities exist. We see this

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designation along a lot of our

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waterfront properties and in our little

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bays and smaller communities. Um it

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identifies areas that are close to the

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water where we we're seeing a lot of

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development but we don't necessarily

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have services available. It's not a

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settlement area. Um but it is where we

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want to focus uh development in sort of

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a smaller scale.

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Um so the county official plan outlines

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the goals and objectives for this

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designation and it says specifically

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that uh this area is for the development

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of four season tourism industry,

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continual improvement of tourism related

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facilities and the provision of land for

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new residential growth opportunities. Um

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and then it also goes on to say that

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these types of development need to be

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reviewed for their environmental um

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their environmental

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um impacts and then also for

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archaeological and that sort of thing.

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So that was all done for this proposal.

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Um the proposed new lots contribute to

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the goals of the county official plan.

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Um the minimum lot size or the lots meet

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the minimum lot size requirements of the

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county official plan and again this

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proposed lot configuration is sort of in

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line with existing development. It's a

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infilling essentially of this area.

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So the property has both natural

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heritage and natural hazard features.

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Again an EIS was completed to support

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this development. The EIS looked at uh

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significant woodlands and significant uh

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provinially significant wetland which is

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along the bay there and uh required

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setback was uh was created for these

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lots. The EIS supported this three lot

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development and defined um development

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[clears throat] envelopes for each of

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these these three lots um with with

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required setbacks to that those

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features. [gasps]

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um the zoning bylaw amendment is going

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to recognize the the developable lot

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area and then also zone a portion of the

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property as um unable to be developed.

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There's also environmental hazard area

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that is also of course unable to be

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developed.

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um

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an archaeological assessment was

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completed for the entire property and

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there was no items of cultural heritage,

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value or interest um identified on the

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site.

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And then the property is zoned R2

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resort. The R2 zone requires the same

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lot provisions as R1 zone except that it

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specifies that waterfront development

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may have a minimum lot size of 3,000

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square m. Again, the proposed lot sizes

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are going to be 4200 square meters with

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the retained parcel at 8,200 square

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meters. So, the lot sizes are meeting

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that as the zoning bylaw requirements.

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The zoning bylaw does require a minimum

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lot frontage of 35 m and this proposal

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is seeking a a lot frontage of 31.9 m.

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the lock rating plan, identified uh

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building envelope

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um parcels and identified areas or and

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and supported um those that smaller

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reduction of the frontage by

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identifying areas of where well and

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septic could be located where sepexs are

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still going to be met.

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the proposed zoning bylaw amendment will

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recognize the reduced frontage. It's

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going to zone the development envelopes

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that are ident indicated on the EIS and

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then the areas outside of the

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development envelopes will be zoned to

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prohibit development. The environmental

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hazard zone is proposed to be amended to

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restrict the construction of decks,

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docks, and boat houses. Um the EIS noted

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that a single 1 m wide path to the water

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was permitted

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but um permissions were not included for

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any other development. So deck docks and

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boat houses will not be permitted um

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because this is a proincially

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significant wetland. The province also

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does not permit development within PSWs.

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Um and then my recommendation is

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approval for the zoning bylaw amendment.

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The uh mitigation measures outlined in

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the EIS are proposed to be included in a

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development agreement should be

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registered on title and required as a

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condition of the consents

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and the mitigation measures are outlined

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in my report there.

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Um I'm happy to take any questions and

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the applicant is also here for any

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questions.

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» All right. Thank you, Megan.

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I do have a comment with regards to the

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mitigation measures

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we ran into this. This is the second

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time that I've seen this. It's on page

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35 of a report.

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And the number four it says, "No

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machinery shall be left on site. All

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machinery shall be removed from the site

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daily."

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And that like I'm just that is pretty

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impractical thing to include in a

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it's just adding cost and

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as I said I've seen it once before

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it's I mean I I don't hardly understand

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the rationale of it because vehicles are

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parked there all the time and the same

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thing could happen with vehicles as

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So maybe if you can explain to me how

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» Yeah. So these those um requirements are

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part of the MECP the Ministry of

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requirements to protect the Massaga

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rattlesnake. So the Masaga is a species

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of concern. Um, the municipality doesn't

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necessarily require we're not it's not

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the municipality that has to enforce

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those. It's the MECP that has to enforce

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that. And these requirements come from

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them. So the ecologist is not

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necessarily the ones who are putting

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this in place. It's the MECP that says

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like if you include these then we don't

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have to go through this whole other um

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thing to protect the Massaga

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Does that make sense?

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» What does it mean if you don't include

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this?

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ecologist,

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but if we didn't include that, and I'm

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not sure like if we could just like not

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include one specific condition or if we

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didn't if we if it if all of it like I

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would have to check with the ecologist

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on that. Um, but

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basically [sighs and gasps]

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» So this I'm not going to turn this on

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especially up here with the rattlesnake

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population. Um and whenever we do see

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these these assessments done it is a

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pretty common requirement on these

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development agreements. I can because

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like oil and stuff can can contaminate

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the site. And then also if like the

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snakes go on to the machinery when Yeah.

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some point you have to kind of question

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some of these things. I mean, that's our

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job. And uh

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so I I would I would [clears throat]

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like an answer to it uh before we we we

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pass the bylaw next at some later date.

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» Yeah, I think you guys are would would

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pass the bylaw at the next council

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meeting, which is September 14th, I

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believe. So um I should be able to reach

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out to the ecologist and get a little

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more information on that before that

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meeting and and I can provide that to

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» Yes. Okay. Have a thought.

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» Maybe something to add to that, Megan,

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would be if if they do feel that it it

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has to be moved, maybe a temporary fence

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could be put around, like if it's just

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one piece of equipment, it would be easy

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to put some sort of a temporary fence

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around it versus pulling it off site um

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all the time as well. If that would be

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appease them.

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» Yeah.

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It's a good point. Yeah.

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All right. Uh so it is a public meeting.

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We will if does any other counselors

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have a comment?

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Uh it is a public meeting. We will open

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the meeting up to the public.

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And if there's anyone here

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present that is what wants to speak to

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the application, you can. This is your

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opportunity.

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Also, we'll look online to see if anyone

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is online to speak to the application.

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» You sure can. Yep.

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» Appreciate it.

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» Could you come up here, sir, please?

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» Yeah, there's a microphone.

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» Yeah, just state your name, Sergeant.

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My name is Marcel.

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» There you go.

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» Um, I'm the applicant. I wasn't going to

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speak to it. Um, but after hearing your

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comments on it, you're banging on the

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money. So, this whole application took

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approximately 2 and 1/2 years to

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complete. And that's one of numerous

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restrictions that was put on this little

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parcel that I couldn't even begin to

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have imagined. You know what happens? I

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think sometimes is it's like a

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microscope on just that little piece of

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property as if it's some sort of special

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snake habitat when the reality of it is

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it's on a corner with two bordering

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roads. Well, I'm I'm not sure why I

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can't park a vehicle on the property,

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but yet 5 ft away, the municipality

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actually created a parking lot there for

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people to go fishing on the causeway.

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I can't create a deck or a dock and I'm

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restricted to only allowing people to

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walk 75 meters of that property because

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of potential impact they might have. But

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yet there's a roadway right there on a

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causeway. And every winter we know what

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happens around here. That snow gets

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plowed and it dumps sand and salt right

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into that special water. But yet I can't

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allow a residential property with a

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small family to go down and maybe enjoy

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the waterfront because of the

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restrictions. So my reasons for agreeing

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to all those restrictions cuz after the

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environmental impact was completed and

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we had reviewed it, the county hired

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somebody to do a review and they came

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back and those were the alternatives we

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had was to have more studies done and

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have yet another third party review

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those conditions. and and it just went

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on and on and on. It's like, okay, let's

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just accept the ones that were we've

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agreed to initially and so we can move

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on. So, I was ending my conversing

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red tape, but it's not happening.

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» It's not happening. No,

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» Megan, was this peer reviewed?

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» It wasn't peer reviewed. So, right now

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the county has a natural heritage uh

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planner who has experience in um in EIS

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review. So, if um if and and he's off

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currently, but um when he comes back, if

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he has the capacity and the availability

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and it's like within his scope, um we do

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the internal peer review. So, it is less

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money, less time. Um

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but um yeah the the larger developments

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are sometimes reviewed by by the peer

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reviewers but this one was not

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» Okay

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» The red tape and the cost is very

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restrictive limiting development this

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area.

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Uh

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» Is there anyone on the online uh Cali

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that's uh

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there is

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If there's anyone online who wishes to

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speak, could you please raise your hand?

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» Seeing none.

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» All right. If there's no members of the

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public present and there's none online,

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we will close the public meeting.

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» [clears throat]

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» So, uh, we have a mover and second, and

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the recommendation is to approve the

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zoning bylaw amendment. Uh,

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so if there's no further questions, we

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will call the vote. All in favor?

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Opposed? The motion carries.

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All right, we'll go to delegations.

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And uh this delegation has been removed

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from the agenda.

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And next we have the coordinator for the

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Go Marie and Northern Bridge Peninsula

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Chamber of Commerce and it is the uh

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Matt strategic plan. Welcome Brian.

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Uh Charlene was supposed to be here, but

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she's off six, so I'm coming. I'm flying

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solo here. Uh I won't go over the whole

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plan cuz it's huge. And uh it's just a

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refinement of what we presented last

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fall. Um some of the highlights uh from

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this. So we struck up a subcommittee

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from the the board of directors to

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create this. It took us about 6 months

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to put together. So, we we re re we

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revamped what we currently had. Um, some

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of the highlights we came back with was

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we're going to create a Matt committee

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uh every year. So, it's going to contain

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up to se seven members. Four of them

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going to be board of directors. Uh, five

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can be board of directors, chief

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members, anybody interested in being on

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this committee. It's good. So, what we

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we created this to get approved so we

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can move forward with the applications,

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which is one of the stipulations we had

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in the agreement with with the

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municipality was we had to create an

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application for for people to apply for

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funds. But we figured that we found the

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the the MAT plan we currently we

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previously had didn't quite match up.

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So, we've included that in there, the

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stipulations. Uh we actually created

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some guidelines and applications and

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stuff like that out of this agreement.

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the other thing we did is we made it a a

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bigger process to change this document.

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So it's going to take three different

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board meetings. The first one will be a

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proposal that there's something in the

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document that needed to be changed. The

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second one will go through a board for a

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vote and then the third will will be uh

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will be changed. That way we can't have

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a new board in in October or November

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say we don't like this and rewrite it.

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We have to go through this whole process

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again. So, um, those are really the the

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big highlights in this. This was more

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just to get that application process

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going. So, once we can get this

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approved, uh, we can get the

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applications out and and, uh, um,

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different people can apply for for Matt

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funds for for projects.

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» All right, Brian. Uh, council, any

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questions? Yeah, Smokey.

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» I don't have

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uh glad going through as I did to see

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you know a lot of your focus are things

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that we try to focus or on over the

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years and that was the you know looking

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at springfall and trying to bring that

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forward and minimize you know we all

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know in the summer what happens but it

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looks like this document's going to you

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know put some money where we really need

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it in trying to extend the season and

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extend uh you know the focus of tourism

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so that uh and and good luck with that.

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But I I was really happy to see that in

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this document that it's doing what we

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hope at least I when we talk about that

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tax hoping this money would be u going

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to

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» All right. Thank you Smokey. Any further

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comments?

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So Peggy, what are we where are we

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heading here?

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Um there is a report uh 2612

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that council receives the strategic

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plan. Um it's as stated is included in

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the agreement. So this is just merely a

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formality.

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» All right. Thank you then Ryan. I

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appreciate your Yeah. Appreciate the

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presentation. Thank you.

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Uh, next, Sherry Tobin and Dave Fluke.

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Proposed partnership with Ontario 360

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Tours

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and they are online.

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Uh, hi Sherry

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Dave.

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» Hi Sher. Yes.

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» Oh, yes. Can you hear me? Yes, we can.

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Yeah, go ahead.

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» Just waiting for Dave to get online

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here. Dave, are you here?

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Dave,

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sorry. If if you don't mind, we'll just

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give him one second to join up. I'm not

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sure. Um, we're having a bit of trouble

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hearing some of the uh council members,

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so maybe that's part of the issue.

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Yes.

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» I just want to ask this has no

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connection with chamber presentation.

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» I just wanted to know that before

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because I know the chamber kind of

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looking at things. So I wanted to make

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sure that it's a separate thing.

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» Yep. Yeah.

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Maybe we'll direct them to the chamber.

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I'm just gonna start and then hopefully

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he'll join me in a second. But uh uh so

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good afternoon Mr. Mayor and uh council

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members. My name is Sher Tobin and Dave

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Fluke, my partner, should be joining you

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in a moment. Um together we make up

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Ontario 360 Tours. Um, Ontario 360 Tours

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is a multilingual platform that's

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designed to showcase the best of Ontario

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and make travel planning easy uh via

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immersive narrated 360°ree videos,

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thereby creating more revenue for local

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tourism sectors.

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I trust that you've all had a chance to

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look over our proposal. Uh we're seeking

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a partnership with the municipality of

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northern Bruce Peninsula and the city of

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Tobbery to produce a 360 degree video

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showcasing key locations in Topberi uh

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with strong emphasis on extending the

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shoulder season. Our proposal outlines

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our direct task uh why immerse with

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360°ree videos are necessary to stay

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ahead of the game and the key benefits

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of this technology uh that this

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technology will bring the region. Our

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inclusive feed does cover uh the

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pre-production planning uh which

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includes logistic coordination uh

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directly with your team professional

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filming advanced video editing and uh

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professional narration permanent hosting

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on our website and YouTube channel will

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also uh happen in per perpetuity and

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strategic sharing across hundreds of

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targeted Facebook groups various other

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social media outlets and direct outreach

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to local uh real estate agents to

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showcase the region uh to prospective

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buyers, travel agents uh just to name a

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view of the areas that we do share and

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um showcase across uh other Ontario

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platforms. We do also reach out to other

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Canadian platforms as well, bringing in

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tourism from uh all sectors in Canada

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and the US. Um,

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and uh, so at this time I want to turn

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it over to Dave who's going to take you

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through uh, a little bit of a

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walkthrough of our website and YouTube

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channel just to explain a little bit

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further uh, how it works and uh, what

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the videos uh, look like and how they

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can benefit you.

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Um, he says his mic and cam isn't

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working. Um, can you bear with us for

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one second?

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He's going to try another uh computer if

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you give him one second. He's got that

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all rigged up. I do apologize for the

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delay.

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he is actually not able to join at all.

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So, uh I'm going to have to wing it. Um

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what I wanted to do with share the

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screen and have you uh sort of take you

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through what the um process is. So,

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basically I'm not going to be able to do

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that portion. Um what we do is we find

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interesting places uh in Ontario, hidden

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gems or places that people have asked us

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to uh take do a video of and we will,

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you know, go to that location, speak to

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maybe it's a business owner or it's um a

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municipality like yourselves. Uh we've

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done a couple of uh downtown tours uh

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things like that and they're just

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looking for um ways to promote their

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their tourism and travel and get more

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people through the shops and the

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restaurants, hotels staying um as long

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as possible. And I do know that seeing

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uh some of the information online that

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Tobber is also looking to extend their

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shoulder season. So, I think that at

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this point it's a good time to um have

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these videos uh up and running and have

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someone like us who's passionate about

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not only Ontario but passionate about

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the 360. We're passionate about the

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video and tourism in general. Um we do

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come up to Toba at least once a year.

551
00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:09,039
So, this is a other part thing that

552
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,679
we're passionate about as well. Um and

553
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:14,480
then we would produce a video based on

554
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:16,399
some of their um you know ideas and what

555
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,799
they want to portray. So in fact we

556
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:22,320
would speaking to collaborating with you

557
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:26,000
we would um use the narration uh to

558
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:29,120
showcase exactly what you are your

559
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,919
mandates are. Um so we had um proposed

560
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,559
key two three key spots in Tobamorei but

561
00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:36,960
we're open to ideas to uh whatever else

562
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:39,200
you would like to have in that video or

563
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,760
it could be a couple of shorter videos

564
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,480
um show showcasing a few other things as

565
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,640
well. um whatever sort of you know your

566
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,399
mandate, your brand calls for and and

567
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,799
what you're trying to do with your city

568
00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:53,120
as well. Um we work with you in that

569
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:55,919
respect and the narration um to cover

570
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,720
those key aspects. Um once the videos

571
00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:01,279
are done, we again host them on our

572
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,120
website on our YouTube channel and share

573
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:05,039
them around as much as possible. We

574
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,440
always have people asking us, you know,

575
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:10,399
can you share that video again? Um

576
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,399
what's a good place to go to uh in a

577
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:14,080
particular area? Recently, I've just

578
00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:16,080
seen three people in the last couple of

579
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,600
days ask uh what they could do in

580
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,120
between this spot and this spot that

581
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,039
they're traveling to. And so, that's

582
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,120
another uh key aspect of things that we

583
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,720
could offer. So, our site really helps

584
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,399
with travel planning, getting people

585
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,320
excited about where they're going to go

586
00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:31,279
and giving them more information before

587
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,360
they do go. 360 videos are are also a

588
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:34,960
good way for people to see exactly what

589
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,960
they're getting themselves into, so to

590
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,279
speak, and getting them excited about

591
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,360
being in that spot instead of just um

592
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:43,600
seeing maybe a few pictures online. It's

593
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,120
really an immersive way to be there

594
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:49,440
without being there and get excited

595
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:51,039
about being there. Um, so we are asking

596
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,080
uh I guess I'll just wrap things up at

597
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:55,200
this point since we weren't able to do

598
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,760
the actual presentation, but um I know

599
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,360
that Toby is world reown for its peak

600
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,519
summer beauty, but the opportunity for

601
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,480
sustainable growth and extending the

602
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:06,720
momentum is is a real thing. And by

603
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,399
partnering with Ontario 360 tours,

604
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,320
you're also investing in modern

605
00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:12,000
accessible tools that inspire off peak

606
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,480
travel that support your local

607
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,039
businesses and drive uh measurable

608
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,799
tourism as well. So you already think of

609
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:21,519
our proposal. We're ready to hit the

610
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:24,799
ground running. Um all we ask is for

611
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:26,880
your um go ahead and we can uh turn out

612
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,559
the logistics of you know the

613
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,559
collaboration and how it's going to work

614
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,960
and when exactly you want to see in the

615
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:36,559
video uh in terms of what we've proposed

616
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,640
and what uh the city is needing to uh

617
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:41,840
align with their values and and core

618
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,679
goals. Thank you.

619
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200
» All right, Jerry. Thank you very much.

620
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:50,840
Uh

621
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,840
any council comments, questions on this?

622
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:57,279
Uh yes. Yep.

623
00:32:54,399 --> 00:32:59,679
» Well, I think that uh what what we are

624
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:01,600
more than to as a council. We are

625
00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:04,320
northern Bruce Peninsula

626
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,600
» And our local just so happens the

627
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:11,279
presentation before yours was from um

628
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:14,159
our local chamber of commerce which also

629
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:17,919
um involves the whole municipality. So

630
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:21,039
perhaps my thinking would be that your

631
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:23,279
presentation would it could possibly go

632
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:25,519
to our chamber of commerce and they

633
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,600
could took a look at it. They are we're

634
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:31,279
they're funded through the map and

635
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:33,440
different things like that. So, um,

636
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:34,640
that's just my comment.

637
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,519
» Appreciate that.

638
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,240
» All right. Uh, if there's no comments or

639
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:41,919
other comments or questions, we will

640
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,200
turn it over to staff and I'm sure staff

641
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:46,960
will be talking with the chamber. So,

642
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,880
thank you very much, Sher. Appreciate

643
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080
it. And I appreciate it. We

644
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,600
» We'll be in touch.

645
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,320
» Okay, that sounds great. Thank you so

646
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,960
much.

647
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,559
» Thank you.

648
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,880
» Have a fabulous day.

649
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,880
» You, too.

650
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Um

651
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:10,240
that concludes our delegations.

652
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:13,359
We will go to agenda items. Uh office uh

653
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:18,919
CIO reports the uh six month performance

654
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:18,919
report January to June 2026.

655
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,520
Move in second to bring that forward in

656
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,520
a moment.

657
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:31,639
information report. Any questions,

658
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,639
comments

659
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:38,919
on the report?

660
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:38,919
Just uh how many uh emphasis

661
00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:41,013
[clears throat]

662
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:53,159
just for this year, Mr. Mayor?

663
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,159
» Yeah, just so far this year. Absolutely.

664
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,480
And while Alex's just looking at that

665
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,079
too, on page 11, it's

666
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,440
the

667
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:11,280
100% critical system uptime. What does

668
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,880
that mean?

669
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,359
Do you feel [laughter] comfortable?

670
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,160
» I can answer that, Mr. Mayor. Um, it

671
00:35:15,359 --> 00:35:20,400
basically means that we had no lag

672
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,440
downtime within our facilities or

673
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,240
crucial infrastructure. So essentially

674
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,400
everything was running at 100%.

675
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:31,680
We had no time that we had to shut down

676
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:34,720
facilities or operations.

677
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:38,200
And the the other one was too uh we we

678
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:38,200
at uh

679
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:47,440
uh or let's talk uh

680
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:50,560
what did it say there about we had 1100

681
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:55,480
and some

682
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,480
uh so wait

683
00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:03,680
11:46 let's talk participation So is

684
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,560
that the total number we had respond in

685
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,079
last time?

686
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,839
» Well, so that that's the total

687
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:11,119
participation of somebody who had logged

688
00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:14,000
on. Uh we did have a very busy first

689
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:18,079
part of the year with the Capid

690
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:21,599
um road discussions and also the waste

691
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:22,720
management and water management um

692
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,200
» Okay

693
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:29,040
» Discussions on there. So we did have a

694
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:32,240
very um busy first 6 months when it came

695
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,720
to resident engagement

696
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,400
» With 1146 that's are those is that the

697
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:38,079
ones that responded or what

698
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,960
» Those are ones that have logged on to

699
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:43,280
the system

700
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,880
» And it's a cumulative of those two

701
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:48,480
projects for the water wastewater and

702
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,599
the capid head.

703
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,240
» Yeah. I thought there would have been

704
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:55,800
more, but

705
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:55,800
that's the number.

706
00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:02,960
Um,

707
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:05,520
all right. Anyone else have any uh but

708
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,560
our social media and uh web page are

709
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:11,839
getting lots of activity.

710
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,440
» Yeah. Uh

711
00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:15,520
uh yeah, I just had a question about the

712
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,160
um the capital projects uh delivery

713
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,520
progress. So target was 85, actual was

714
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,440
28. Um is there any sort of reasons

715
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,079
behind that or is that sort of expected

716
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:29,440
schedule or

717
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:32,320
um it's it's really due to the fact that

718
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:35,200
this is from January to June. Um because

719
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,040
of the winter months, we actually won't

720
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,760
uh have anything started. So those are

721
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:43,119
actually completed projects. So based

722
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,960
upon the amount of time that uh we've

723
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,320
had good weather for construction, we're

724
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,960
actually really ahead of schedule.

725
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,760
Unfortunately, the way the KPIs read,

726
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,760
you know, numbers are numbers.

727
00:37:56,079 --> 00:38:01,200
» All right. Anything else, D?

728
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,040
» One question and maybe you can answer

729
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:07,359
it, Peggy, is regarding building

730
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:11,520
permits. There was 133 applications and

731
00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:14,800
only 116 issued. Those 17, did they just

732
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,720
decline to go through with them or they

733
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,119
just in the queue?

734
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:22,720
» So those are the ones that were deemed

735
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:24,560
incomplete and so by the time that um

736
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:26,160
June had rolled around, they hadn't

737
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,480
actually been moved back into the

738
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,200
system. So we could actually see after

739
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,720
they, you know, come January that these

740
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,359
are all complete. Uh, one of the big um

741
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:39,760
items for the building department is to

742
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:42,160
educate the public on what a complete

743
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,640
application looks like to hopefully move

744
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,800
those up to 100%.

745
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,800
» Thank you,

746
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:52,480
» Peggy. I I have found what I was looking

747
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:55,200
for actually finally.

748
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:59,280
Uh it's on page 10 and and it says the

749
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:03,359
let's talk uh platform received 4969

750
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:07,400
project views and 1146 contributions

751
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:07,400
supporting meaningful public

752
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,720
so

753
00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:15,359
the 40 5,000 like that's the view that's

754
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:17,440
people that viewed the on the projects

755
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:20,079
on let's talk.

756
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:23,599
» Okay.

757
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:25,760
All right. Um one more

758
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:28,640
» Sorry just one more about um just the

759
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,440
operating budget variance um see till

760
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,680
now the action's 5.31%

761
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,680
um expecting that to stay stable till

762
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,800
the end of the year or there concerns

763
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:42,480
that it'll highire

764
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,320
» We are assuming it will stay stable um

765
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:47,040
we are actually at an point right now

766
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,680
that we've just had another tax due date

767
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,880
so we'll see an influx of of finances at

768
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:56,640
that point. We've also

769
00:39:52,880 --> 00:40:00,160
uh I believe 85% of 85 to 87% of our

770
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,240
capital projects have been tender RFP.

771
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:06,760
So we are also aware that we're in

772
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:06,760
pretty good shape regarding the future.

773
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,640
» Correct. Yeah.

774
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,880
All right. Anything else? Uh

775
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,520
if not information report call the vote.

776
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:24,720
All in favor? Opposed? The motion's

777
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:28,280
carried. CEO, this is the presentation

778
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:28,280
that we had.

779
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,920
And I guess this is what I'm wondering

780
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:37,440
like he was talking about adopting this

781
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:39,760
report and this is for information. So

782
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,440
I'm just wondering.

783
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:46,560
» So based upon the agreement, council has

784
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,560
to receive the Matt report. This

785
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,839
essentially is the chamber's strategic

786
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,920
plan for how they intend to move forward

787
00:40:51,839 --> 00:40:55,760
with the burn tax.

788
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,800
» Um, and [clears throat]

789
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:01,599
based upon when we originally move

790
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:05,520
forward with the municipal accommodation

791
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:07,599
tax, it was our it was council's

792
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,720
decision to bake this almost as a

793
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,960
handsoff. So, you know, here's your 2%,

794
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:14,480
provide us a strategic plan, and we'll

795
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,160
move forward that way. and then we

796
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,680
wouldn't have to do any micro bandaging.

797
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:22,640
So according to the agreement um they we

798
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,400
do receive for information and

799
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,760
essentially they will adopt it on their

800
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,400
side.

801
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,240
» Okay.

802
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,268
» All right. So mover and secondary to

803
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:36,288
bring this uh Smokey and Todd.

804
00:41:34,268 --> 00:41:36,288
[clears throat]

805
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:44,160
So when we when we look at this do do we

806
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:48,720
look at to see whether it complies with

807
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:50,079
legislation or or what we anticipate it

808
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:53,200
should be.

809
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:56,560
» Yes. So in the agreement that uh we

810
00:41:53,200 --> 00:42:01,760
provided to the chamber there was a

811
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:04,319
request for this funding to be for

812
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:08,560
tourism based but also for events and

813
00:42:04,319 --> 00:42:10,079
for to become sewn for init for various

814
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,160
businesses and initiatives and that's

815
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:14,079
what this has [laughter] helped out

816
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,880
with.

817
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:20,160
So just to clarify, so we we this is

818
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:24,800
hands off for us.

819
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:27,440
» We do have one member of council that is

820
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,240
a representative for the municipality on

821
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:34,240
the chamber and then they do attend on a

822
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:36,240
a monthly basis. Um but yes, this is a

823
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:39,200
handsoff type of

824
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:41,599
» But we did request this, right? This

825
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,960
» This a strategic plan was part of the

826
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:45,200
agreement. Yeah,

827
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:50,800
» For council to see how they would

828
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:53,520
actually invest or use the Matt tax. But

829
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:57,920
we have actually included within the

830
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:01,760
agreement also that what the intent was

831
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:05,839
on the municipal side when it came to um

832
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:07,920
seed money for events, potential tourism

833
00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:11,440
initiatives and that's what this has

834
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:14,440
brought forward on.

835
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Okay.

836
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:24,079
Anybody have anything else to add?

837
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:26,930
Nobody call a vote. Uh, all in favor?

838
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,680
Motion carried. [clears throat]

839
00:43:26,930 --> 00:43:32,280
[snorts]

840
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,280
Procedure bylaw. Clerk's department.

841
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,040
The council direct staff to bring

842
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,640
forward an updated bylaw to govern the

843
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,960
proceedings of council and committee

844
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:46,440
meetings of the corporation of the

845
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,440
county of Bruce.

846
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,319
Todd

847
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:51,319
Rod

848
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,800
any questions on procedure bylaw?

849
00:43:55,095 --> 00:43:59,280
[clears throat]

850
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,960
Alex, do you want to give us any

851
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,960
comments on this wonder?

852
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,920
» Uh, sure. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, just

853
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,319
an update to the procedural bylaw here.

854
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,319
Um, so we've just added a lot more

855
00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:11,760
detail to certain sections. Um,

856
00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:14,240
specifically, you'll see that the

857
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:18,079
meeting section is a lot more um

858
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:22,160
emboldened for different scenarios um in

859
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:24,480
terms of inclement weather and um with

860
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,720
regards to virtual participation and

861
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,400
virtual meetings. So, the report does

862
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:31,839
sort of go over the sections that have

863
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,480
been um sort of added to a couple of

864
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:38,319
small changes to the agenda format as

865
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:40,480
well. Um but other than that, we're just

866
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:42,720
looking at a little bit more detail for

867
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:46,079
uh this updated procedural bylaw and I'm

868
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:49,515
happy to answer any questions.

869
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,515
» All right, [clears throat]

870
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,520
» Go ahead, Smokey. Yeah, go ahead.

871
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,920
» Well, I just have a question.

872
00:44:53,520 --> 00:45:00,400
Uh it says uh

873
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,079
something to do with lucky binder here.

874
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:05,599
Uh

875
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:08,560
persons uh with the council within the

876
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:11,839
council horseshoe that just means the

877
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:15,006
council itself. Okay. Yeah. just had I

878
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:17,026
just had a clear

879
00:45:15,006 --> 00:45:17,026
[laughter]

880
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:21,640
» Totally fair.

881
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,640
» Yes.

882
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:30,319
» Yeah. And on page 23 and 24 it lists all

883
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,079
of the motions and

884
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:35,920
they're

885
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:38,079
we'll probably need Alex's assistance on

886
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,640
they've always been but they are

887
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:39,520
» Yes.

888
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,880
» Yeah.

889
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,040
» Absolutely. Mr. Mayor, I'm always happy

890
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,040
to help.

891
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:50,640
» Any further questions?

892
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,280
So, it's good to have an updated bylaw

893
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:56,800
and appreciate the work that you've gone

894
00:45:53,280 --> 00:46:00,880
into this one. So, thank you. Yeah,

895
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,960
sorry. Um, just explain why we've um

896
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,800
decided to sort of um prohibit the

897
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,200
public and media from recording

898
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,040
meetings. We're recording them anyways.

899
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,520
I mean I don't don't see why it would be

900
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,119
an issue for someone else to record.

901
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,319
» Yeah, that's a totally fair question and

902
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,920
we actually had a little bit of a

903
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:17,839
discussion about that. So the reasoning

904
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,280
behind it is because we do live stream

905
00:46:17,839 --> 00:46:22,880
the meeting. So there is a recording

906
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,720
that's publicly available. Um and it the

907
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,079
recordings are managed by the clerk's

908
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:29,359
department as a record of the

909
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:30,800
corporation. Um so we want to be able to

910
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:34,000
manage that and make sure that there's

911
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,680
no issues with um you know when we're in

912
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,440
and out of a closed meeting or something

913
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,359
like that. we have a little bit more

914
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,359
we're monitoring what we're recording um

915
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:44,359
and they are available to the public. So

916
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,160
» It just why like you know like if

917
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,160
someone like the media was here like why

918
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,760
would they restrict them from like just

919
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,520
recording if they only wanted to record

920
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,960
you know like a particular portion of

921
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,800
discussion

922
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,079
» Just be an issue? Mhm. Um like for

923
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,560
somebody to sit in on a meeting and

924
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:08,240
record with their cell phone. Um I think

925
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:10,880
it it's more managing managing that and

926
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:13,520
because it is available already through

927
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,280
what we do with our live streaming. Um I

928
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,200
think if council wanted us to allow

929
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,359
people to come in and record, we could

930
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,359
if that's what the discussion is. We

931
00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:25,160
just thought it might be a little bit

932
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:25,160
better to manage that.

933
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:32,480
So just on that note is what is the

934
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,160
usual procedure

935
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,520
» For meeting recordings? Yes.

936
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:39,839
» Um so our deputy clerk gets set up with

937
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,680
our different systems. So we have a

938
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:44,480
couple of different platforms that we

939
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:47,040
use um and the meeting is live streamed

940
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,760
in real time um through box cap.

941
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,760
» Yeah. But other other municipalities how

942
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:55,440
do they handle say if someone wants to

943
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:57,520
sit in your crowd and record? So if if

944
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,839
our procedural bylaw prohibits it and we

945
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,920
saw somebody in the crowd recording the

946
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:04,240
meeting, then the chair of the meeting

947
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,920
would say, "Sorry, we don't allow that."

948
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:08,400
Um, and then if it became an issue where

949
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,440
they continued to record, we could ask

950
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,359
them to leave.

951
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,520
» But in other municipalities, is that a

952
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:14,400
standard? Is that a standard in their

953
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,040
zoning by?

954
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,720
» From what I was looking at, it varies.

955
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,960
So a lot of the bylaws that I was

956
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:22,640
looking at, it's it it varies across

957
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,960
municipalities. So, I wouldn't say

958
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,559
there's a gold standard. Um, same thing

959
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,640
with live streaming meetings. Not all

960
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:30,880
municipalities actually live stream and

961
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,528
record.

962
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,528
» Okay. [clears throat]

963
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,839
» Or

964
00:48:37,839 --> 00:48:42,839
I'm just not sure how I feel about

965
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,839
restricting

966
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:52,280
public meeting. Uh so I just have my

967
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,280
notes here but I find

968
00:48:53,119 --> 00:49:01,040
yeah so it's page 10 of the report.

969
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:04,720
» So let me see here.

970
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Okay. So, what we if council would like

971
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:09,680
what we could look at is allowing it.

972
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,680
Um,

973
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,480
and if it becomes inappropriate, we

974
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:17,280
could maybe manage it. Um, like if it

975
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,800
becomes a distraction.

976
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,480
Um,

977
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,680
but we could we could change that if

978
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,280
that's what council would like us to do.

979
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,440
Our current procedural bylaw doesn't

980
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,960
address this, I don't think.

981
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,359
» So,

982
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,040
um, what what number is that? So it's

983
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:36,520
5.55

984
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,520
at the bottom of

985
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:53,119
5.54 at the bottom of page 10. 5.55.

986
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:56,119
Okay.

987
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:56,119
Oh,

988
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,240
okay.

989
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:15,680
All right. Um, whatever.

990
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:19,599
» I tend to agree with Aman in that we're

991
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,520
open. We're the public. Uh, if anybody

992
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:24,319
will probably says things they

993
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,000
shouldn't, it would be me. But, uh, I

994
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:28,559
mean, we're open to the public. I have

995
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,720
no problem with people recording the

996
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:32,400
meeting or

997
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,640
or whatever. It's just the way it's

998
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,760
written here. It kind of looks like

999
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:41,200
we're um editing or something. I don't

1000
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,359
know. Anyway, I I don't think it's

1001
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:47,720
necessary.

1002
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:47,720
So, you feel like majority guilt.

1003
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,480
» I I don't have a problem with it. I I

1004
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:56,079
think this maybe hearkens back to the

1005
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:59,440
day of the big lights and the guy with

1006
00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:01,440
right when that would be obnoxious, but

1007
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,680
nowadays it's all done on cell phones.

1008
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,000
It's not not a problem.

1009
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:09,280
» It may be being done anyway, I guess.

1010
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,400
Well, people are here. So,

1011
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,079
all right. Uh if it's the general

1012
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,599
feeling of council, it sounds like it

1013
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:20,559
is, but we will reboot that to

1014
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:23,599
» I will change that and it'll be in the

1015
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:25,440
um would council like to see another

1016
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:27,200
version of it before passing it at the

1017
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,720
next meeting or we can change it and go

1018
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,240
ahead. Okay,

1019
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:30,559
» I we just change it.

1020
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,440
» Okay,

1021
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,720
» Go ahead.

1022
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,040
» That's great. No problem.

1023
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:38,480
» So, how do you want the motion to read?

1024
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:41,359
Um well, it sounded like councelor Sorab

1025
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:46,559
moved an amendment to the motion

1026
00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:50,000
to um amend section 5.55 to permit um

1027
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:51,680
recording. So if we had a seconder,

1028
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,319
» That's great. And then a vote on the

1029
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,040
amendment.

1030
00:51:52,319 --> 00:51:58,319
» On the amendment

1031
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:01,440
and uh Alex has kind of given us the

1032
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:03,680
wording. So all in favor?

1033
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,400
» Perfect. and then we'll go back to the

1034
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,880
original motion as amended. Call a vote.

1035
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,880
All in favor? Opposed? The motion's

1036
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,880
carried.

1037
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,599
All right. Um, next [clears throat] is

1038
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:20,640
item B, clerk's department is concerns

1039
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:24,480
at Hobson Harbor Drive. And we heard

1040
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:26,559
last meeting about this.

1041
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,440
So, the council receives the report

1042
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:34,079
C2624 concerns at Hopson's Harbor Drive

1043
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:37,839
for information. Move it. Second.

1044
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:42,240
Uh, Rod, I'm on.

1045
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:45,599
Any questions, comments on this Todd?

1046
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:49,440
I just have a comment and I spoke to

1047
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:53,200
Chief Bird about this earlier. I just

1048
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:55,599
feel that we need to be maybe uh part of

1049
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:59,359
our response

1050
00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:02,319
is that we have to uh be more proactive

1051
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:05,920
with fires smart the fires smart

1052
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:08,480
program. I was looking into it on on the

1053
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:13,760
weekend and maybe that could be part of

1054
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:16,640
our response to Joe is um may I know we

1055
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:19,760
are doing it but maybe we need to to

1056
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:22,880
step it up with the way everything is

1057
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:25,920
changing how dry the peninsula is. I

1058
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:29,040
think we have to be a lot more proactive

1059
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:32,440
and promote promoted even more than what

1060
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,440
we already are.

1061
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,319
give Jack an opportunity, our fire

1062
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,400
chief, an opportunity to do this.

1063
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:40,160
» Yes, thank you, counselor. Um, the fires

1064
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,760
smart program is a great program and

1065
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,559
we've been promoting this for a few

1066
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,160
years here in Northern Bruce Peninsula

1067
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:47,440
and we continue to promote it and I

1068
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,400
agree with you. I think it can be

1069
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,640
promoted more and get the message out.

1070
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Uh there's uh great opportunities for

1071
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,480
homeowners with apps like the Fires

1072
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,240
Smart Begins at home app where they can

1073
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:02,720
go and do a self assessment of their

1074
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:04,559
home. Um the firesmartcanada.ca CA

1075
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:06,559
website has a tremendous amount of

1076
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:08,400
resources and it's something that we'll

1077
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:11,440
continue to push for fire prevention

1078
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:14,640
here on the peninsula.

1079
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,960
» That's not going to turn my machine on

1080
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,319
as it does this. So,

1081
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:23,680
» At any rate, we have uh is there any way

1082
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:26,800
that we can influence some of the larger

1083
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:29,200
land owners? Uh we have federal parks.

1084
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:32,800
We have a lot of property on the Bruce

1085
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:36,240
Peninsula under conservation. that to

1086
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:39,839
the best of my knowledge. Uh so we're

1087
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:42,640
asking private land owners to look after

1088
00:54:39,839 --> 00:54:46,359
their property probably a lot smaller

1089
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,359
when we have

1090
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,960
It it's a good comment counselor. Um a

1091
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:24,400
lot of those areas we don't have

1092
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,240
jurisdiction whether it's provincial

1093
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,680
land or federal land uh from the

1094
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:30,480
municipal fire department. We try to

1095
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:34,079
work with our partners to ensure that uh

1096
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,000
they are being fires smart. Um

1097
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:39,680
but it is difficult on a lot of those

1098
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,839
lands. The fires smart program is really

1099
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,520
designed for the homeowner in mind,

1100
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:45,680
right? So, it's the embers that

1101
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,240
typically cause the fires that we've all

1102
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:50,319
seen on the news in large urban uh

1103
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:52,880
wildland urban interface areas where the

1104
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:55,599
embers can travel literally kilometers

1105
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,839
ahead of fires and land in areas and

1106
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:59,359
start those areas on fire. So, this is

1107
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:02,240
more this program is more about

1108
00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:05,200
protecting individual properties and

1109
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:07,040
communities as opposed to those larger

1110
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,280
federal, provincial, and nature

1111
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,240
reserves. But those are conversations

1112
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,400
that my team um continues to have to

1113
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:16,240
make sure that we can protect uh the

1114
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,240
peninsula from a forest fire.

1115
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:21,440
» Well, yes, because you can't turn on the

1116
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:24,240
TV and we're seeing fires in places that

1117
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:27,440
never were had them before. like there

1118
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:31,280
isn't I don't think there's any road map

1119
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:33,599
that anybody could ever predict. So I

1120
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,599
guess we're just sitting here with no

1121
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:38,880
impact

1122
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:43,440
on on this or do you see any way forward

1123
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:45,839
that uh we as a municipality could um

1124
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,799
have an impact on on some of these

1125
00:56:45,839 --> 00:56:50,559
policies that you know are in our area?

1126
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:52,000
» It's a good question. And I think uh

1127
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:54,960
continuing the lines of communication

1128
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:57,760
with our partners and trying to find

1129
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,440
solutions that can help protect um the

1130
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,160
broader community from wildfire is

1131
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,079
something we need to continue to do.

1132
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,000
» For sure.

1133
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:09,000
Okay. Thank you, G. I understand our

1134
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,000
limitations.

1135
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,720
» All right. Uh, [clears throat]

1136
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:20,319
so maybe we can

1137
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:22,480
Todd suggest that maybe we

1138
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:25,480
that could be a response that we give

1139
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Joe.

1140
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:34,720
All right. And so we'll call the vote.

1141
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:37,720
So do you want that recorded or just

1142
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,720
direction?

1143
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:43,839
» I think so. Council would like to give

1144
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:46,720
direction on this. Sorry.

1145
00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:48,559
» Yes. That was the uh I guess is there

1146
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,400
kind of a general consensus before we go

1147
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:53,280
down that road or Yeah.

1148
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:56,240
» Okay. Um I think I think the motion is

1149
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:59,119
okay as is and we're happy to we've been

1150
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,960
regularly speaking with Mr. Roach. So

1151
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:01,520
» Um we're happy to relay that information

1152
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,559
to him.

1153
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:07,119
» Call a vote. All in favor?

1154
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:09,839
The motion carried.

1155
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:13,799
Public works.

1156
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:13,799
Item A, public works.

1157
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:19,359
And uh

1158
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:23,400
this is a project on Judges Creek and

1159
00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:23,400
it's farm crossing.

1160
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:31,240
It's been looked at by the engineer and

1161
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,240
the whole act. So

1162
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,040
and approve

1163
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,520
proceed with the project. So, we'll get

1164
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:46,760
a mover in second here on this one here.

1165
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:46,760
Uh, Todd and Rodend,

1166
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:50,000
» Pardon me,

1167
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:53,839
» The drainage superintendent.

1168
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,280
» Okay, Stephen. Is it Steve? Steve. Yeah.

1169
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:57,440
» All right. So, if there's any questions,

1170
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,000
we have the uh drainage superintendent

1171
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:02,079
online, Steve Kobe.

1172
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,720
Welcome, Steve.

1173
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:08,079
» Thank you.

1174
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,920
So, uh, just give us a brief update or

1175
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:11,839
Yeah, just give us a brief overview of

1176
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,119
this, uh, Steve.

1177
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:19,280
» Sure. Thank you very much.

1178
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:23,680
Um, so this is a minor improvement

1179
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:26,319
request uh for a new farm crossing on

1180
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,640
Mr. Waggle's property. Um, through the

1181
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:31,760
drainage act, uh, there's now what's

1182
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:34,240
called a minor improvement uh, request.

1183
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:37,119
So that's uh mostly minor projects such

1184
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:40,319
as this. So when a property owner

1185
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:46,319
requires a new uh in this case a new

1186
00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:48,319
culvert um we can go through um a faster

1187
00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:50,079
um process through the drainage act to

1188
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:54,559
incorporate that culvert into the

1189
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:57,520
municipal drain. Um the one caveat is um

1190
00:59:54,559 --> 01:00:00,720
the property owner pays for the

1191
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:04,000
installation of the culvert himself and

1192
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:06,480
uh as well as the any any costs that are

1193
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:09,920
incurred to incorporate this into the

1194
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:12,559
municipal drain. So again, Mr. WGO

1195
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,920
requested a new farm crossing is p

1196
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:19,440
primarily due to um accessing the other

1197
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,440
side of his property um which he was

1198
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,920
always accessing it through another

1199
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:27,680
property which that agreement came to an

1200
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:31,359
end. So he requested a a new culvert on

1201
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:34,240
uh branch E of the of the Judges Creek

1202
01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:36,000
municipal drain. So we've uh we were

1203
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:39,440
Kobite engineering was appointed in the

1204
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:43,119
fall of 2025. We've reviewed uh the

1205
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:46,000
request um met with Mr. Waggle on site.

1206
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:48,880
Um we've gone through the all the

1207
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,240
appropriate agencies review agencies. Uh

1208
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,680
number one is the Department of

1209
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:56,240
Fisheries and Oceans. They've reviewed

1210
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:58,880
it. Uh they've uh they've uh submitted a

1211
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:02,000
letter of advice to us that uh we can

1212
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:04,319
proceed with the work. Uh we did u

1213
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,640
design the covert, check the capacity.

1214
01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:09,359
Now Mr. Wag is uh supplying the pipe

1215
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,720
himself and will be doing the work

1216
01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:14,400
probably on his own which uh we can

1217
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,880
oversee.

1218
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:20,720
Um and he's all I think he's ready to

1219
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:24,400
go. So this is the the last little item

1220
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:27,119
on our uh the minor improvement drain

1221
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:30,400
request um to approve the report that we

1222
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:33,520
prepared in support of it. And uh if it

1223
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:36,160
gets approved by council, Mr. WGO can um

1224
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:39,359
proceed with the work after I believe

1225
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:44,480
it's a 10day appeals period which uh Mr.

1226
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:46,880
WGO can appeal appeal this um or uh if

1227
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,119
if not after 10 days he can go we can go

1228
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,160
ahead with the work. So again I believe

1229
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:53,599
Mr.

1230
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:56,640
will be uh wanting to do it himself and

1231
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:59,839
if he does that then these uh these

1232
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:02,559
projects are or can qualify for math or

1233
01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:04,640
grants but if he does it by on his own

1234
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:08,400
then he won't be entitled to that

1235
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:12,240
one-third grant um but again since he's

1236
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,680
supplying a majority of the materials um

1237
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:17,440
I don't think that'll be a problem for

1238
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:20,480
him so that's concludes my report

1239
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:23,040
» Thank you Steve So engineering the

1240
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,799
engineering cost associated with this

1241
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,480
who pays for that?

1242
01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:28,319
» Mr. Waggle.

1243
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,640
» Okay.

1244
01:02:28,319 --> 01:02:32,000
» Yeah.

1245
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:34,720
» Good. Yep.

1246
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,640
So but the Steve you mentioned a oneird

1247
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:41,280
like the oneird

1248
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:44,160
» Grant. So just so are we entitled to

1249
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:46,319
that or who's entitled to that? Um if we

1250
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:49,119
went just like any other uh project we

1251
01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:51,440
do um well Mafford does have grants for

1252
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:54,720
for work for properties that qualify for

1253
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:58,640
the farm tax credit um which Mr. Waggo's

1254
01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:00,559
property does and um if we so in this

1255
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,480
case if we did go through the miss

1256
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:06,000
valley's procurement policy so we just

1257
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:08,960
tendered this work out and uh it came

1258
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,280
back um and that's really the the one

1259
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:14,319
stipulation through a maf grant program

1260
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:18,640
that it just satisi satisfies the

1261
01:03:14,319 --> 01:03:20,319
municipalities procurement policy. So

1262
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,720
since Mr. Wagle wants to do the work

1263
01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:24,799
himself we'll be uh not going through

1264
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:27,558
that process. So it won't qualify for

1265
01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:29,119
this one-third grant. So again, he's

1266
01:03:27,558 --> 01:03:32,000
[clears throat] he's supplying the pipe

1267
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:35,920
himself, which is the biggest cost. So

1268
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:37,599
» I think we want to opt for that option.

1269
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,000
» Yep.

1270
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:42,480
All right. Any further questions on that

1271
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,319
one.

1272
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,839
» Thank you, Steve.

1273
01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:49,200
» Thank you.

1274
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:51,920
» And so we have a mover and second on the

1275
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,520
report. So we will call a vote. All in

1276
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,079
favor?

1277
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,079
Motion carried.

1278
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:07,039
Building department. Uh this is uh

1279
01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:11,280
lifting a holding zone by uh

1280
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:12,960
Josh Lions and J Milhausen at 590 log 53

1281
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,359
municipality of Northern Ris Peninsula

1282
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:19,079
be approved. Over and second for that.

1283
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:19,079
I'm on and Rod.

1284
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:25,839
Any questions on this one?

1285
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:29,920
Call a vote. All in favor?

1286
01:04:25,839 --> 01:04:33,599
Opposed? The motion carried. And this is

1287
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,440
the further to that to the report above

1288
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:38,240
and it's no demand for service agreement

1289
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,880
on the same lot. Second for that

1290
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Smokeoky and Todd [gasps]

1291
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:46,814
call about all in favor.

1292
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,079
The motion carried.

1293
01:04:46,814 --> 01:04:50,559
[clears throat and cough]

1294
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:53,559
Item C, 10, trailer exemption

1295
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,559
explanation

1296
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:59,960
and council receives this report.

1297
01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:04,799
Second, for that one,

1298
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:07,039
right?

1299
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:10,680
Uh, Emily is not here. Any comment,

1300
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:10,680
Peggy, on this?

1301
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:16,319
» Uh, no. This is actually um in response

1302
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:19,440
to the delegation request that was

1303
01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:22,799
cancelled today. Yeah. All right. Any

1304
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,680
further questions, comments?

1305
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:29,440
Call the vote. All in favor?

1306
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:31,839
All miss the motion carried.

1307
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,319
Fire department

1308
01:05:31,839 --> 01:05:37,200
and the council waves section 52 in

1309
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:41,200
formal quotation purchases 30 30,000 to

1310
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:43,839
60,000 of bylaw 2023-38

1311
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,359
purchasing policy.

1312
01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:46,799
And the council authorized the fire

1313
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:49,680
chief to enter into an agreement with

1314
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:53,240
the air technology

1315
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,240
for $48,94

1316
01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:59,440
and0 plus HST for the lane head fire

1317
01:05:57,039 --> 01:06:02,140
hole and [clears throat]

1318
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,799
$40,641

1319
01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:08,839
[snorts]

1320
01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:08,839
0 plus HST for the domary fire hole.

1321
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:15,880
Move a second here for that one. brought

1322
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,880
Todd

1323
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:21,280
Ch just the question is this proven tech

1324
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:22,799
is this proven are there other places

1325
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,240
have this or

1326
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:25,839
» Yes there is there's a number of other

1327
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,599
departments in gray and Bruce County

1328
01:06:25,839 --> 01:06:29,200
that have used similar units I've gone

1329
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:31,920
and had a look at them and it does meet

1330
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,000
the requirements outlined um in the

1331
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:37,839
Ministry of Labor Immigration Training

1332
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:40,130
and Skills Developments um occupational

1333
01:06:37,839 --> 01:06:41,520
um cancer prevention checklist uh and

1334
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:44,720
[clears throat] it's considerably

1335
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:47,520
cheaper than um the drops the GSC that

1336
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:49,520
hook up to tail pipes. Uh and this is an

1337
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,960
Ontario made solution. I haven't been

1338
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,359
able to find another one that would

1339
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,039
match it. There was one in California

1340
01:06:53,359 --> 01:07:00,280
but didn't meet the specifications that

1341
01:06:55,039 --> 01:07:00,280
we were looking for uh with this model.

1342
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:07,200
» Right. Rod, just give me a brief

1343
01:07:04,366 --> 01:07:10,160
[snorts] sort of visual

1344
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,359
detail or what's it look like? How's it

1345
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,359
working? Yeah,

1346
01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:13,680
» I'll do my best to draw you a picture

1347
01:07:13,359 --> 01:07:15,599
here.

1348
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,880
» Draw me a picture. Use your thousand

1349
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:19,280
words.

1350
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,440
» Yeah. So instead of uh individual runs

1351
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,599
that we typically see that would uh

1352
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,039
track with a vehicle coming out of the

1353
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:27,920
fireh hall, this would be like an air

1354
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:30,240
handling unit that is not on a roof but

1355
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,960
actually in the fire hall itself in the

1356
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,799
ceiling level sucks all the air in all

1357
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,039
the contaminants and has a filtration

1358
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:38,720
system that captures

1359
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:42,079
um the diesel exhaust and harmful

1360
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:46,240
chemicals associated with it and then um

1361
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:47,520
provides clean air as a as um like

1362
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,200
turnover. over in order to meet the

1363
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,640
requirements for the diesel exhaust

1364
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,640
extraction.

1365
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:55,520
» So there must there is some sort of

1366
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,640
monitor CO monitor something that yeah

1367
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:01,200
associated with that.

1368
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:02,640
» Yeah, there's a CO monitor um HCN that

1369
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,640
type of stuff associated with it as

1370
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,200
well.

1371
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:09,359
» So just on that until it gets to the

1372
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,440
ceiling,

1373
01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:13,359
excuse me, it's in the building, right?

1374
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:16,400
Um,

1375
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:18,319
yes, but it creates um such a flow that

1376
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,839
it draws it all up in very quickly. So,

1377
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:21,199
as soon as the vehicle starts, it's

1378
01:08:19,839 --> 01:08:22,960
going to draw it up in and then it's

1379
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:26,159
constantly running in the background

1380
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:28,159
where it's drawing that um particulate

1381
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:31,040
in. So, it's not capturing it right at

1382
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:36,719
the exhaust pipe per se, but it is

1383
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:38,480
removing it at um extremely fast pace in

1384
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:41,120
order to meet the requirements. So there

1385
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:41,920
is no diesel exhaust uh left within the

1386
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,600
building.

1387
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,120
» Yeah. My only comment was I didn't want

1388
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,279
to be the first one with this

1389
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,239
assistance. [laughter]

1390
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:49,759
But

1391
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:51,279
» That's why I went and had a look at some

1392
01:08:49,759 --> 01:08:52,640
of the other departments that had it to

1393
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:54,480
make sure that it would meet our needs

1394
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:58,719
and and work well for us.

1395
01:08:54,480 --> 01:09:00,799
» Yeah. Smokey. Oh, well, anything I mean

1396
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:04,080
these people are, you know, protecting

1397
01:09:00,799 --> 01:09:05,520
us, but and probably already know this,

1398
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,359
but have we looked at any kind of

1399
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,319
funding because it seems like like we're

1400
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:13,440
a pretty small municipality and the

1401
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:17,520
amount that it's costing our taxpayers

1402
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:19,839
directly to provide uh you know what is

1403
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,440
mandated, not only mandated, but that's

1404
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:26,319
for firefighters. Um, so nobody is

1405
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:29,040
providing any type of funding. uh to

1406
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:30,799
offset our cost on this.

1407
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,480
» Not directly associated with this

1408
01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:33,920
project, but the um provincial

1409
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:36,319
government has come out with the it's

1410
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:38,000
the third year now of the Ontario uh

1411
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:43,359
firefighter protection grant that deals

1412
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:45,839
with some um cancer related um

1413
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:48,000
materials. So, we've bought washers and

1414
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:49,920
dryers, extractors,

1415
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,440
uh coveralls, stuff of that nature to

1416
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,880
help reduce some of the exposure, some

1417
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:55,280
of the other things that we're seeing in

1418
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:57,679
this cancer prevention checklist. uh but

1419
01:09:55,280 --> 01:10:00,080
not so much this larger infrastructure

1420
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:02,560
capital project piece.

1421
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:05,120
» So it has it has limits which doesn't

1422
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,199
include it.

1423
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,280
» That's too bad.

1424
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:11,760
Thank you.

1425
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:14,000
» Okay. Um

1426
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:18,000
further comments

1427
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:20,868
call a vote. All in favor?

1428
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,888
Motion carried.

1429
01:10:20,868 --> 01:10:22,888
[clears throat]

1430
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,400
Uh next we go to committee minutes. Uh

1431
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:31,120
drainage committee and greybur

1432
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:35,440
detachment board.

1433
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:37,440
Any comments, questions on any of those?

1434
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:40,080
Uh Rod?

1435
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:42,000
Uh just one. I think we did get a letter

1436
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,640
about this too and it was to do with

1437
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:48,400
that uh

1438
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:52,239
the angle ditch from the Bruce Peninsula

1439
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:54,560
biosphere thing. We just have a brief uh

1440
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:57,600
Mr. Rogers noticed that he canoed a good

1441
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:59,840
portion blah blah blah. Is he any sort

1442
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:03,679
of talk about that Todd or

1443
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:05,520
» Steve or is Steve aware of it or or John

1444
01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:08,640
more so?

1445
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:11,840
» Steve would be John. Steve and John

1446
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:13,199
would be I know the Engle ditch is in

1447
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:16,239
South Bruce Peninsula.

1448
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:18,800
» Yeah. I think that was the concern that

1449
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:20,560
it was going to put more water into the

1450
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,040
into the uh

1451
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,400
» Judge Creek.

1452
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:26,880
» Judge Creek. Yeah. Yeah,

1453
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,760
» In theory. Um, it's coming in anyway

1454
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:32,000
because that's where the spring is from

1455
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:35,360
what I understand. Troy could probably

1456
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:37,760
answer that as well.

1457
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,360
» Yeah, thank you, Councelor.

1458
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:43,600
Yes, it is. It's the same amount of

1459
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:47,199
water going. Uh, so what the what the

1460
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:49,600
project was was was re not rrooting

1461
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:52,080
putting the the the stream back to the

1462
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,920
same place that it was originally. So

1463
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:57,280
the water still come out into the same

1464
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:58,880
area uh except this this time now

1465
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,640
they're putting it back to to where it

1466
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,239
originally was instead of diverting it

1467
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,800
and bringing it back in. So it's the

1468
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:07,360
same amount of flow. is just

1469
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:11,040
concentrating in the in the one area

1470
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:12,800
upstream of where the uh um where the

1471
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:15,440
letter come in for a response of a

1472
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,440
concern for that. So it's uh the

1473
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:18,880
quantity of water is still the same.

1474
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:23,120
It's just bringing it back to the

1475
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:25,760
original uh flow.

1476
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:28,960
» All right. Uh if there is no further

1477
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:31,960
questions on on those two we'll go to

1478
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,960
correspondence.

1479
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:40,640
Anything on those information

1480
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:44,440
other business?

1481
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,440
Anyone have other business?

1482
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:50,400
» Just to add to what we talked about

1483
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:54,400
earlier since we have Chief Bert in the

1484
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:56,960
room. Do we want to direct the fire

1485
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:59,679
department to come up with measures to

1486
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:02,880
be more proactive with the fire smart

1487
01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:05,920
program? We talked about it today, but I

1488
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:09,880
don't know necessarily that we did any

1489
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,880
direction regarding that.

1490
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:14,440
» What would that mean, Jack?

1491
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,600
But I think it depends on how

1492
01:13:18,375 --> 01:13:22,560
[clears throat] far council would like

1493
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,239
to to take a program like this. Um

1494
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,679
whether it's boots on the ground, going

1495
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:28,719
out in the community and actually

1496
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:31,040
assessing properties or continuing with

1497
01:13:28,719 --> 01:13:33,679
public education and pushing the message

1498
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,760
out there uh with current staffing

1499
01:13:33,679 --> 01:13:38,480
levels to

1500
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:42,320
um you know maintain our public

1501
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:44,719
education um levels, but probably

1502
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,880
looking at increasing the amount of

1503
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:50,400
information we're putting out. So I

1504
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:54,159
think it would depend on um different

1505
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:55,120
options and what that would look like,

1506
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:57,040
» Right?

1507
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,880
» Yeah. That was that's more the lines

1508
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,400
that I was thinking of public education

1509
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:04,239
more than boots on the ground.

1510
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:06,719
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we

1511
01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:09,199
we do that now. We we can do that.

1512
01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:11,360
» We we do uh we'll attempt to do more and

1513
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:12,960
include um yeah more fires smart

1514
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,080
education materials with our public

1515
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,040
education.

1516
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,040
» Okay.

1517
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:24,531
Um, any other business?

1518
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:26,320
If not, we'll go to bylaws.

1519
01:14:24,531 --> 01:14:28,560
[clears throat]

1520
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,400
And bylaw 2026-61

1521
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,000
is a bylaw to appoint citizens to the

1522
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:34,480
Bruce County joint compliance audit

1523
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:37,440
committee for the 202630

1524
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:40,880
term of council.

1525
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:44,400
And bylaw 2026-62

1526
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:47,120
is uh a bylaw to delegate certain powers

1527
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:49,840
and duties during the lame duck period

1528
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,760
in 2026

1529
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:56,719
and 2026-63

1530
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:59,840
is a bylaw holding zone on plan 590 lot

1531
01:14:56,719 --> 01:15:03,360
533 Eagle Road within the municipality

1532
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:08,080
of northern ris peninsula and number

1533
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:08,080
26-64 is a confirmatory bylaw.

1534
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,400
Recommendation

1535
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,360
is that the list of bylaws be given a

1536
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:18,560
first, second, and third reading and

1537
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:20,960
finally passed. Move by Todd. Move by

1538
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:24,560
second by Rod.

1539
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:27,520
Any questions on the bylaws? Call a

1540
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:31,280
vote. All in favor? Opposed? The motion

1541
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:34,480
carried. Motion to adjurnn. Smoke it.

1542
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:37,280
And come on. All in favor. Motion

1543
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:37,280
carried.

1544
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,719
Thank you everyone. Council is

1545
01:15:40,719 --> 01:15:43,719
adjourned.